Turkey Engulfed in Protests, Syria Conflict Worries Turkish Alevis, Syrian Turkomen Support Opposition
Posted by Matthew Barber on Sunday, June 2nd, 2013
Turkish riot police spray a woman in the face with tear gas at a demonstration in Istanbul. Photo: Reuters/Osman Orsal
3rd day of demonstrations in Istanbul. AP Photo/Thanassis Stavrakis
See more photos at the following Atlantic article: Days of Anti-Government Protests and Harsh Crackdowns
A protest in Istanbul, Turkey, that began as a relatively small event earlier in the week, erupted into massive anti-government demonstrations across the country following a harsh crackdown by riot police. People had gathered in Gezi Park to prevent the demolition of the last remaining green public space in the center of Istanbul as part of a major renewal project. Pent-up anger against Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his Islamist-rooted Justice and Development Party flared up after the violent breakup of the Gezi Park protest, fueling the fiercest anti-government demonstrations in years. Yesterday, more than a thousand protesters were arrested in 90 different demonstrations across Turkey. Prime Minister Erdogan has issued several defiant and dismissive messages, urging demonstrators to go home — which they appear to be ignoring, as thousands have gathered once again in Taksim Square today, starting a third day of protest.
Taksim park protests in 4th day amid police crackdown – Hurriyet
A Turkish American comments from Istanbul:
Many are calling it the Turkish Spring, and a large number of Turks and foreigners inside of the country have found this new activism refreshing. Finally, the people of Turkey are openly expressing their disapproval of what is happening in their country. …
Anyone visiting Turkey will immediately notice how passionate the Turkish people are about their country. Flags fly everywhere, and it is not difficult to find a picture of Kemal Ataturk, the founder of the Turkish Republic, in every workplace. Turks have every right to be proud. Turkey is a Muslim country that has been more successful than other Muslim countries in separating religion and state. In spite of its success, Turkey still has many struggles. Over the last two years Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s conservative government, which still remains very popular, has made more and more policies that have upset many Turkish people. Most unhappy Turks, however, simply do nothing more than grumble about the “Islamization” of their country.
On Friday night, May 31, this apathetic mentality changed. People met in a park in downtown Ankara in a show of solidarity with the protesters of Istanbul. The Ankara police did not waste any time tear gassing and shooting water cannons at a protest group marching towards the parliament building. As the night wore on, news spread of protests taking place in other cities across Turkey-some broken up by the police, some not. Finally, at 2:30 A.M. Saturday morning, June 1, Ankara came alive. Cars drove through the streets honking, people chanted and cheered, and those in their apartments moved to windows and balconies banging pots and flashing lights.
… The nation-wide protests that started earlier this week in Istanbul were not expected to grow this large. They started as a peaceful sit-in against the destruction of yet another urban park – a growing problem in many Turkish cities. As the peaceful protest moved into its third day, people started to talk and watch. Most protests here don’t last more than a few hours. Early Friday morning the police moved in to try and clear the park using pepper spray and tear gas. This was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
… So what are they protesting? This protest is not just about a park and trees anymore. It is about a government-led by Prime Minister Erdogan-that has stopped listening to its people. It is about a government that is increasingly restricting the media and all attempts at honest reporting about Turkey and its politics. It is about the atrocities the police have committed against the people they are supposed to protect. It is a about a prime minister and his government who were elected for their pro-democracy stance, but seem to be moving in the opposite direction toward authoritarianism.
Analysis: Erdoğan no longer almighty – Hurriyet
To cut the story short, the Taksim wave of protests has turned into the first public defeat of the almighty image of Prime Minister Tayyip Erdoğan, and by Turkish people themselves.
It was around lunch time June 1 when Erdoğan reiterated his hard-line position regarding the demonstrators protesting his decision to turn the only remaining green spot in Istanbul’s iconic Taksim Square into a reconstructed historical building with a shopping mall.
… To call this a “Turkish Spring” would be over-dramatizing it. It could be, if there were opposition forces in Turkey that could move in to stop the one man show of a mighty power holder. But it can easily be said that the Taksim brinkmanship marked a turning point in the almighty image of Erdoğan.
Alawites, Alevis, Turkomen
The Alawites (with populations in Lebanon, Syria, and Turkey), the Turkish Alevis, and the Turkomen are three separate groups with distinct identities. The Alevis are sometimes mistaken as the “Alawis” of Turkey, but their religious traditions and culture are distinct. Turkey does have an Arabic-speaking Alawite population, primarily in the Antakya area north of Latakia. The following are a few recent articles about the situations of all three communities. The Alevi and Turkomen are often not discussed in the context of the current conflict. Thanks to readers who mailed in or posted comments with the articles.
An Alevi woman prays in Hacibektash (TARIK TINAZAY/AFP/Getty Images)
Syria’s War Impacts Turkish Alevis – al-Monitor – excellent article by Orhan Kemal Cengiz
A legal complaint lodged recently by a Turkish citizen reveals some intriguing details about a book that contains serious hate speech against Alevis.
The book, the title of which translates as The True Face of Batinites and Qarmatians, refers to Alevis as “perverts” who “consider the illicit to be licit.” It has been in circulation since 1948.
Undoubtedly, books containing such hate speech could make their way to printing houses in any country. But the details Turan Eser included in his complaint offer intriguing insight into Turkish realities.
The book’s first edition was printed by none other than the Religious Affairs Directorate (RAD), which, according to the constitution, must be impartial toward all citizens but in fact serves only Sunnis, paying the salaries of all 133,000 imams in mosques across Turkey. More recent editions have been printed by a private publishing house, Sebil.
In the preface of the first edition, then-RAD Chairman Ahmed Hamdi Akseki summarizes the myths circulating about Alevis in Turkey.
“Their remnants continue to exist today. In Iraq, they are called Qaramita and Mazdakiyya because, just like Mazdak in Sassanid times, they say that property and women are to be shared and cannot be in anyone’s ownership and possession. In Khorasan, they are known as Talimiyya and Melahide as well as Maymuniyya after Qarmat’s brother Maymun. In Egypt, they are called Ubeidiyyun after the famous Ubeid, while in Damascus they take the names of Nusayri, Druze and Tayamine. They are known as Baha’is in Palestine, as Bohra and Ismailis in India, as Yamiyya in Yemen, as Alevis in Kurdistan, as Bektashi and Qizilbash among Turks, and as Babiyye in Persia,” Akseki writes.
The book describes Alevis as “ill-intentioned and diabolical,” and says that “marriages with them are not permissible; they are worse heretics even than Jews and Christians since eating the meat they cook is forbidden.”
Alevis are then portrayed as people indulging in sexual debauchery: “When dark falls in the evening, glasses start to make the rounds and heads heat up. As flesh begins to crave, all members of that accursed sect bring in their wives. Entering from all doors, the women join the men, blow out the candles and grab whoever they come across first.”
It is a matter of great interest how the Turkish judiciary will handle this case of hate speech, just weeks after musician Fazil Say and writer Sevan Nisanyan received jail sentences for insulting the religious values of Sunnis in Turkey.
It is, of course, impossible to directly blame the Justice and Development Party (AKP) for such a book still being printed. But undoubtedly, the government holds the primary responsibility for the fact that no step has been taken to resolve the “Alevi problem” in Turkey.
Discriminatory practices against Alevis continue unabated by both the government and RAD. Before anything else, RAD — funded by taxes collected from all Turkish citizens, including the Alevis — provides services for the Sunnis alone.
The government and RAD refuse to recognize the Alevi houses of worship — the cemevis — as such, because the official view in Turkey is that Alevis are Muslim and the mosque is the only house of worship in Islam.
The rulings of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) in cases that Alevis have brought and won against Turkey on grounds of discrimination are not being implemented.
Sinan Isik, for instance, had complained over the denial of his request to have the word “Alevi” written in the religion section on his ID card. The ECHR subsequently ruled that the religion section on ID cards violated freedom of conscience. As a result, Turkey was supposed to remove that section from ID cards, but this has not been done.
Similarly, in a case filed by Alevi citizen Hasan Zengin, the ECHR condemned Turkey on grounds that religion classes in schools teach only Sunni Islam and that Alevi students are barred from seeking exemption from those classes. The government has made no move to scrap the compulsory religion classes in line with the ruling.
In the reforms the government has so far introduced, the “Alevi problem” has benefited the least. The government has been less tolerant toward demands for the recognition of Alevi identity and freedom of worship even when compared to its attitude towards non-Muslim minorities.
Certain moves in recent years have seriously alienated the Alevis. In the past two years, for instance, the government has denied Alevis permission to hold commemorations for the terrible Alevi massacre in Maras province on Dec. 19-26, 1978.
It is crystal clear that Alevis feel increasingly ostracized by a government that refuses to recognize their houses of worship, is reluctant to make satisfactory amendments in line with ECHR rulings, bars them from even commemorating the atrocities they have suffered, and — on top of everything — is pursuing a pro-Sunni foreign policy.
It goes without saying that in the eyes of Alevis, the government’s Syria policy is in no way irrelevant to the situation described above. Given this background, the lines of Rober Koptas in Agosweekly make perfect sense: “The impact of the Syrian war on [the border province of] Hatay is embodied in the anxiety of the Nusayri [Alawite/Alevi] population in the area and their not-so-tolerant attitude toward refugees fleeing to Turkey. Its reflection in domestic politics comes in the form of a conviction, especially in secularist quarters, that the AKP supports the jihadists in Syria. Anatolian Alevis, in turn, perceive this as another manifestation of Sunni cruelty, even though they have no profound cultural bonds with Arab Alawites, or Nusayris.”With the AKP making no effort to find a solution, the Alevi problem is likely to deepen in parallel to the Syrian crisis, and new areas of social conflict are likely to emerge as a result.
As Koptas says, if the government “continues to resist a fair and peaceful solution to Alevi problems, the Syrian quagmire could drown Turkey, pulling it by its Alevi rein. The crisis sparked by the Kurdish problem yesterday could be rekindled by the Alevi problem tomorrow, and an all-encompassing spiral of violence could take the country hostage for who knows how many years.”
Selim the Grim is the Symbol of Alevi Annihilation
Picture from Bianet article
Erdoğan Aydın, a historian and researcher on Turkey’s Alevis, told bianet that Ottoman Sultan Selim the Grim marked the symbol of the annihilation of Alevis – a group that constituted half of Anatolian population in the 16th century.
The denomination of Istanbul’s third bosphorus bridge engendered discussion in Turkey.
Turkey’s top officials including President Abdullah Gül and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan participated this morning to the groundbreaking ceremony of Istanbul’s third bosphorus bridge which was named after Yavuz Sultan Selim, as known as Selim the Grim among western historians.
Erdoğan Aydın, a historian and researcher on Turkey’s Alevis, told bianet that Ottoman Sultan Selim the Grim marked the symbol of the annihilation of Alevis – a group that constituted half of Anatolian population in the 16th century.
“After Selim, annihilation of Alevis said to be legitimate”
Aydın explained bianet what Selim the Grim meant for Alevi people:
“Selim is one of the most prominent symbols of despotism that was inherited from father to son in conquest-based empire. This rulership inevitably sought to dominate its neighboring peoples including Christians and Muslims.
“In the same way, this power would not let any faiths other than it own, especially Alevi faith that incorporated a culture of reflection and objection.
“For this reason, Selim’s assimilation and annihilation politics on Alevi Turkmens and Kurds was not a result of the opposition between Ottomans and Safavis, but a result of this domination dynamics. Therefore, Sultan Selim the Grim marked the symbol of the annihilation of Alevis – a group that constituted half of Anatolian population in the 16th century.”
“Thus, religious clerks [şeyhülislam] during and after Selim the Grim’s rule wrote fatwas [islamic statements] that legitimated the annihilation of Alevis people of all ages departing that they had a different faith [than Islam]. This situation went as far as Abu Saud Efendi, the şeyhülislam of Suleiman the Magnificent who wrote death fatwas against those who read the poetry of humanist Yunus Emre.
“Sign of no peace at home, peace outside”
Aydın explained the reasons behind current government’s choice to name the third bridge as follows:
“Turning the names of monarchy to heroic figures in an environment where we seek a modern and democratic mentality demonstrates how our future is being desired to be put on an antidemocratic axis. Democratic governments usually choose the names of scientists or those who served largely to the improvement of humanity.
“They know that these symbolisms aim to demonstrate what direction the society is desired to be moulded upon. Naming the bridge as Selim shows the fact that the incumbent government was unable to accept no peace at home, nor outside. For instance, it became clear that Turkey’s foreign policy on Syria reflected the neo-Ottoman mentality towards Selim’s path.”
Great article on Syria’s Turkoman population and role with the opposition, by Nick Heras: Syrian Turkmen Join Opposition Forces in Pursuit of a New Syrian Identity – Jamestown Foundation:
Syrian Turkomen Rebels (Source Demotix)
Syria’s Turkmen community is becoming increasingly involved in the country’s opposition movement. The mostly Sunni Turkmen of Syria represent a significant ethnic minority community that is located throughout the country, particularly in diverse and highly strategic areas that are currently the sites of significant conflict. The Turkmen community in Syria is charged by the Assad government of being militantly pro-Turkey, pro-opposition, and in support of the re-imposition of Turkish dominance over Syria…
Syria’s Turkmen communities are descendants of Oghuz Turkish tribal migrants who began moving from Central Asia into the area of modern-day Syria during the 10th century, when the Turkic Seljuk dynasty ruled much of the region. Under the Ottomans, Turkmen were encouraged to establish villages throughout the rural hinterlands of several Syrian cities in order to counter the demographic weight and influence of the settled and nomadic and semi-nomadic Arab tribesmen that populated the region. Syrian Turkmen were also settled to serve as local gendarmes to help assert Ottoman authority over roads and mountain passes in diverse regions such as the Alawite-majority, northwestern coastal governorate of Latakia … After the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire in 1918, communities of Turkmen continued to reside in the country.
Syrian Turkmen opposition leaders, many of who are in exile in Turkey, assert that while Turkey is a cultural “Father” country to their communities, Turkmen are committed to a pluralistic, territorially intact Syria, with a polity that is representative of all of its ethnic and sectarian groups and is no longer ruled by the largely Arab Ba’ath Party… Citing strong historical and cultural ties and his country’s deep affinity for their ethnic compatriots, Turkey’s President Abdullah Gul stated that: “The Syrian Turkmen people are integrated parts of our nation, and they are the strongest bridge of humanity between Turkey and our Syrian brothers and sisters.” Syrian Turkmen leaders report that their efforts to win the support of anti-Assad Arab states were rebuffed because their community was seen by those states as already having a sponsor in the Turkish government.
Turkmen leaders assert that their community suffered discrimination and repression under Ba’athist rule. Turkmen were unable to teach the Turkish language and Turkmen cultural and historical subjects in schools, Turkmen villages were given Arab names and Turkmen land was appropriated for the use of Arab peasants … These factors, as well as tribal divisions within the community and the lack of a large contiguous area within the country where Turkmen are a plurality of the population are blamed by Syrian Turkmen leaders for their community’s lack of participation in the country’s political opposition prior to the uprising.
Turkmen leaders also assert that under the Hafez al-Assad government, their community was viewed as a potential “fifth column” for Turkey, which had a hostile relationship with the Syrian government for much of Hafez al-Assad’s rule. They also state that Hafez al-Assad’s position on the Turkmen was adopted by his son Bashar al-Assad after the onset of the Syrian uprising and the Turkish government’s consequent support for the Syrian opposition. As a result of this history of dispossession, Syrian Turkmen opposition leaders are seeking the recognition of their community as an integral part of the country and their cultural and linguistic rights guaranteed in a post-Assad Syrian constitution…
… In Latakia governorate, the Syrian military is accused of shelling and striking Turkmen villages from the air in the Jabal al-Turkman region, which is now considered to be firmly under the control of the opposition … Current fighting in and around the southern regions of the Jabal al-Turkman is reported to be fiercely contested, with overtones of communal animosity between Alawites and Turkmen … Turkmen opposition leaders allege that the Syrian government has a policy of forcing Turkmen communities out of the area in order to create an autonomous Alawite region in the event of the collapse of the al-Assad government…
Syria’s Turkmen communities are active participants in the Syrian opposition and stand to benefit from this participation in any post-Assad Syrian state. The political and diplomatic support of the Turkish government, in the context of weakened al-Assad government control over many regions of the country, provides Syrian Turkmen opposition groups with a benefactor as they position themselves to participate in a potential post-Assad transition period. Syrian Turkmen leaders appear to be pursuing citizenship-based representation in a future Syrian government and thus far appear to be carefully seeking to legitimize their community’s status as “Syrians” in a diverse Syrian polity.
This narrative of inclusion, politically important for the community as a minority without a distinct political or geographical base, may be tested in the event of a bitter communal conflict between Turkmen and other Syrian communities particularly Alawites and Kurds. In the context of potential widespread conflict in a post-Assad Syria, Turkmen armed opposition groups, relatively small in number and geographically dispersed, may be limited in their ability to protect the property and lives of their community and can not necessarily depend on the intervention of the Turkish military to support it in its interests. A pluralistic, post-Assad Syrian state that can guarantee the physical security of all its communities, and that considers Turkmen to be “Syrian,” is thus an important objective of the current Syrian Turkmen opposition.
Could the Demise of Assad Lead to an Israel-Alawite Alliance? – Fair Observer
The fall of the Assad regime could pave the way for an Israeli-Alawite alliance, argues Ghassan Dahhan.
Various analysts have suggested that if the Alawite-dominated Baath regime in Syria collapses, the country might become embroiled in a civil war between the Sunni majority on the one side and the Alawite minority on the other. Whether this scenario is likely to unfold is debatable. However, there is evidence that Israeli policy-makers are preparing to absorb refugees from the Alawite minority who are estimated to compose around 12 percent of Syrian society in the occupied Golan. “On the day the Assad regime falls, it is expected to harm the Alawite clan. We are preparing to receive Alawite refugees on the Golan Heights,” Israeli Army Chief Benny Gantz was recently quoted as saying. Interestingly Gantz has not made a similar proposal to the current stream of mostly Sunni refugees who are trying to escape the bloodshed in their country. This statement might be an indication that Israel’s long-term strategy is to seek an alliance with the sect that is currently supporting the very regime Israel hopes to see falling.
Nusra’s Chemical Weapons in Turkey
Turkey finds sarin gas in possession of al-Nusra fighters inside Turkey – RT
Turkish security forces found a 2kg cylinder with sarin gas after searching the homes of Syrian militants from the Al-Qaeda linked Al-Nusra Front who were previously detained, Turkish media reports. The gas was reportedly going to be used in a bomb.
The sarin gas was found in the homes of suspected Syrian Islamists detained in the southern provinces of Adana and Mersia following a search by Turkish police on Wednesday, reports say. The gas was allegedly going to be used to carry out an attack in the southern Turkish city of Adana.
On Monday, Turkish special anti-terror forces arrested 12 suspected members of the Al-Nusra Front, the Al-Qaeda affiliated group which has been dubbed “the most aggressive and successful arm” of the Syrian rebels. The group was designated a terrorist organization by the United States in December.
Police also reportedly found a cache of weapons, documents and digital data which will be reviewed by police.
Following the searches, five of those detained were released following medical examinations at the Forensic Medicine Institution Adana. Seven suspects remain in custody. Turkish authorities are yet to comment on the arrests.
Russia reacted strongly to the incident, calling for a thorough investigation into the detention of Syrian militants in possession of sarin gas. “We are extremely concerned with media reports. Russia believes that the use of any chemical weapons is absolutely inadmissible,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said on Thursday.
Russia waiting for Turkey’s explanation on sarin gas link in bomb attack – Zaman
Why Turkey is Essential for the Syrian Opposition – Atlantic
Rebel fighters rely on the country for support and weapons, but it may no longer be a secure option.
… It has been almost two weeks since the bombings in Reyhanli, Turkey that killed more than 50 people. Clean-up efforts are underway, but the incident added to the increasing tensions in the country, which opposition soldiers hiding out in Turkey say could change the dynamic of their operations.
Turkey may no longer be a secure option for the opposition because the war in Syria seems to have seeped through the border. Rebels escape imminent violence by fleeing, but they do not fully escape the watchful eye of the Syrian regime. An extension of the Syrian war is bubbling up in Turkey.
Over the past two years, the opposition has used Turkey to gather resources to aid its fight inside Syria. But the country no longer acts solely as a pipeline for money, aid, and weapons. It has become a home base for rebel soldiers to coordinate and heal before heading back to fight. It provides space for a complicated web of fractious groups that support various opposition forces in Syria.
It is unclear how many battalions in Syria have groups operating in Turkey. And there is no way of knowing who is affiliated with which opposition group when they cross the border
… Turkish officials in Reyhanli said last week that the people who carried out the bombings were connected with the Syrian mukhabarat. According to news reports, suspects admitted that the initial attack was supposed to take place in Antakya, where the majority of opposition leaders and soldiers live.
Patrick Cockburn Essay
Please read this insightful essay by Patrick Cockburn: Is it the end of Sykes-Picot? – London Review of Books
For the first two years of the Syrian civil war foreign leaders regularly predicted that Bashar al-Assad’s government would fall any day. In November 2011, King Abdullah of Jordan said that the chances of Assad’s surviving were so slim he ought to step down. In December last year, Anders Rasmussen, the Nato secretary general, said: ‘I think the regime in Damascus is approaching collapse.’ Even the Russian Foreign Ministry – which generally defends Assad – has at times made similar claims. Some of these statements were designed to demoralise Assad’s supporters by making his overthrow seem inevitable. But in many cases outsiders genuinely believed that the end was just round the corner. The rebels kept claiming successes, and the claims were undiscriminatingly accepted.
That Assad’s government is on its last legs has always been something of a myth.YouTube videos of victorious rebel fighters capturing military outposts and seizing government munitions distract attention from the fact that the war is entering its third year and the insurgents have succeeded in capturing just one of the 14 provincial capitals. (In Libya the insurgents held Benghazi and the whole of the east as well as Misrata and smaller towns in the west from the beginning of the revolt.) The Syrian rebels were never as strong militarily as the outside world supposes. But they have always been way ahead of the government in their access to the international media. Whatever the uprising has since become it began in March 2011 as a mass revolt against a cruel and corrupt police state. The regime at first refused to say much in response, then sounded aggrieved and befuddled as it saw the vacuum it had created being filled with information put out by its enemies. Defecting Syrian soldiers were on television denouncing their former masters while government units that had stayed loyal remained unreported and invisible. And so it has largely continued. The ubiquitous YouTube videos of minor, and in some cases illusory, victories by the rebels are put about in large part to persuade the world that, given more money and arms, they can quickly win a decisive victory and end the war.
There is a striking divergence between the way the Syrian war is seen in Beirut – just a few hours’ drive from Damascus, even now – and what actually appears to be happening on the ground inside Syria. On recent trips I would drive to Damascus, having listened to Syrians and non-Syrians in Beirut who sincerely believed that rebel victory was close, only to find the government still very much in control. Around the capital, the rebels held some suburbs and nearby towns, but in December I was able to travel the ninety miles between Damascus and Homs, Syria’s third largest city, without any guards and with ordinary heavy traffic on the road. Friends back in Beirut would shake their heads in disbelief when I spoke about this and politely suggest that I’d been hoodwinked by the regime.
Some of the difficulties in reporting the war in Syria aren’t new. Television has a great appetite for the drama of war, for pictures of missiles exploding over Middle Eastern cities amid the sparkle of anti-aircraft fire. Print journalism can’t compete with these images, but they are rarely typical of what is happening. Despite the iconic images Baghdad wasn’t, in fact, heavily bombarded in either 1991 or 2003. The problem is much worse in Syria than it used to be in Iraq or Afghanistan (in 2001) because the most arresting pictures out of Syria appear first on YouTube and are, for the most part, provided by political activists. They are then run on TV news with health warnings to the effect that the station can’t vouch for their veracity, but viewers assume that the station wouldn’t be running the film if it didn’t believe it was real. Actual eyewitnesses are becoming hard to find, since even people living a few streets from the fighting in Damascus now get most of their information from the internet or TV.
Not all YouTube evidence is suspect. Though easily fabricated, it performs certain tasks well. It can show that atrocities have taken place, and even authenticate them: in the case of a pro-government militia massacring rebel villagers, for instance, or rebel commanders mutilating and executing government soldiers. Without a video of him doing so, who would have believed that a rebel commander had cut open a dead government soldier and eaten his heart? Pictures of physical destruction are less reliable because they focus on the worst damage, giving the impression – which may or may not be true – that a whole district is in ruins. What YouTube can’t tell you is who is winning the war.
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The reality is that no one is. Over the last year a military stalemate has prevailed, with each side launching offensives in the areas where they are strongest. Both sides have had definite but limited successes. In recent weeks government forces have opened up the road that leads west from Homs to the Mediterranean coast and the road from Damascus south to the Jordanian border. They have expanded the territory they hold around the capital and trained a militia of sixty thousand, the National Defence Force, to guard positions once held by the Syrian army. This strategy of retrenchment and consolidation isn’t new. About six months ago the army stopped trying to keep control of outlying positions and focused instead on defending the main population centres and the routes linking them. These pre-planned withdrawals took place at the same time as real losses on the battlefield, and were misinterpreted outside Syria as a sign that the regime was imploding. The strategy was indeed a sign of military weakness, but by concentrating its forces in certain areas the government was able to launch counterattacks at vital points. Assad isn’t going to win a total victory, but the opposition isn’t anywhere close to overthrowing him either. This is worth stressing because Western politicians and journalists so frequently take it for granted that the regime is entering its last days. A justification for the British and French argument that the EU embargo on arms deliveries to the rebels should be lifted – a plan first mooted in March but strongly opposed by other EU members – is that these extra weapons will finally tip the balance decisively against Assad. The evidence from Syria itself is that more weapons will simply mean more dead and wounded.
The protracted conflict that is now underway in Syria has more in common with the civil wars in Lebanon and Iraq than with the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya or the even swifter regime changes in Egypt and Tunisia at the start of the Arab Spring. The civil war in Lebanon lasted 15 years, from 1975 to 1990, and the sectarian divisions which caused it are as marked as ever. In Iraq, 2006 and 2007 are usually described as being the worst years of the slaughter – three thousand people murdered every month – but sectarian killings began immediately after the US invasion in 2003 and haven’t stopped since. According to the UN some seven hundred Iraqis were killed in April: the highest monthly total since 2008. Syria is increasingly resembling its neighbours to the west and east: there will soon be a solid bloc of fragmented countries that stretches between the Mediterranean and Iran. In all three places the power of the central state is draining away as communities retreat into their own well-defended and near autonomous enclaves.
Meanwhile, foreign countries are gaining influence with the help of local proxies, and in so doing the rebels’ supporters are repeating the mistake Washington made ten years ago in Iraq. In the heady days after the fall of Saddam, the Americans announced that Iran and Syria were the next targets for regime change. This was largely ill-informed hubris, but the threat was real enough for the Syrians and Iranians to decide that in order to stop the Americans acting against them they had to stop the US stabilising its occupation of Iraq and lent their support to all of America’s opponents regardless of whether they were Shia or Sunni.
From an early stage in the Syrian uprising the US, Nato, Israel and the Sunni Arab states openly exulted at the blow that would soon be dealt to Iran and to Hezbollah in Lebanon: Assad’s imminent fall would deprive them of their most important ally in the Arab world. Sunni leaders saw the uprising not as a triumph of democracy but as the beginning of a campaign directed at Shia or Shia-dominated states. As with Iraq in 2003, Hezbollah and Iran believe they have no alternative but to fight and that it’s better to get on with it while they still have friends in power in Damascus. ‘If the enemy attacks us,’ Hossein Taeb, a high-ranking intelligence officer in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, recently said, ‘and seeks to take over Syria or Khuzestan’ – an Iranian province – ‘the priority is to maintain Syria, because if we maintain Syria we can take back Khuzestan. But if we lose Syria we won’t be able to hold Tehran.’ Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, made it very clear in a speech on 30 April that the Lebanese Shia also see Syria as a battleground where they can’t afford a defeat. ‘Syria,’ he said, ‘has real friends in the region and the world who will not let Syria fall into the hands of America, Israel or takfiri groups.’ He believes the very survival of the Shia is at stake. For many in the Middle East this sounded like a declaration of war: a significant one, given Hezbollah’s experience in fighting a guerrilla war against the Israelis in Lebanon. The impact of its skill in irregular warfare has already been witnessed in the fighting at Qusayr and Homs, just beyond Lebanon’s northern border. ‘It probably is unrealistic to expect Lebanese actors to take a step back,’ a study by the International Crisis Group concludes. ‘Syria’s fate, they feel, is their own, and the stakes are too high for them to keep to the sideline.’
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The Syrian civil war is spreading. This, not well-publicised advances or withdrawals on the battlefield, is the most important new development. Political leaders in the region see the dangers more intensely than the rest of the world. ‘Neither the opposition nor the regime can finish the other off,’ Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi prime minister, said earlier this year. ‘If the opposition is victorious, there will be a civil war in Lebanon, divisions in Jordan, and a sectarian war in Iraq.’ Of these countries, the most vulnerable is Lebanon, given the division between Sunni and Shia, a weak state, porous borders and proximity to heavily populated areas of Syria. A country of four million people has already taken in half a million Syrian refugees, most of them Sunnis.
In Iraq, the Syrian civil war has reignited a sectarian conflict that never entirely ended. The destabilising of his country that Maliki predicted in the event of an opposition victory has already begun. The overthrow of Saddam brought to power a Shia-Kurdish government that displaced Sunni rule dating back to the foundation of the Iraqi state in 1921. It is this recently established status quo that is now under threat. The revolt of the Sunni majority in Syria is making the Sunni minority in Iraq feel that the regional balance is swinging in their favour. They started to demonstrate in December, modelling their protests on the Arab Spring. They wanted reform rather than revolution, but to the Shia majority the demonstrations appeared to be part of a frighteningly powerful Sunni counter-offensive across the Middle East. The Baghdad government equivocated until 23 April, when a military force backed by tanks crushed a sit-in protest in the main square of Hawijah, a Sunni town south-west of Kirkuk, killing at least 50 people including eight children. Since then local Sunni leaders who had previously backed the Iraqi army against the Kurds have been demanding that it leave their provinces. Iraq may be disintegrating.
The feeling that the future of whole states is in doubt is growing across the Middle East – for the first time since Britain and France carved up the remains of the Ottoman Empire after the First World War. ‘It is the end of Sykes-Picot,’ I was told repeatedly in Iraq; the reference was to the agreement of 1916 which divided up the spoils between Britain and France and was the basis for later treaties. Some are jubilant at the collapse of the old order, notably the thirty million Kurds who were left without a state of their own after the Ottoman collapse and are now spread across Iraq, Turkey, Iran and Syria. They feel their moment has come: they are close to independence in Iraq and are striking a deal with the Turkish government for political rights and civil equality. In March, the Kurdish guerrillas of the PKK declared an end to their thirty-year war with the Turkish government and started withdrawing into the mountains of northern Iraq. The 2.5 million Kurds in northern Syria, 10 per cent of the population, have assumed control of their towns and villages and are likely to demand a high degree of autonomy from any postwar Syrian government.
What will the new order in the Middle East look like? This should be Turkey’s great moment in the region: it has a powerful military, a prospering economy and a well-established government. It is allied to Saudi Arabia and Qatar in supporting the Syrian opposition and is on good terms with the US. But these are dangerous waters to fish in. Three years ago, Ankara was able to deal peaceably with Syria, Iraq and Iran, but now it has poisonous relations with all three. Engagement in Syria on the side of the rebels isn’t popular at home and the government is clearly surprised that the conflict hasn’t yet ended. There are signs that the violence is spilling over Turkey’s 510-mile frontier with Syria, across which insurgent groups advance and retreat at will. On 11 May, two bombs in a Turkish border town killed 49 people, almost all Turkish. An angry crowd of Turks marched down the main street chanting ‘kill the Syrians’ as they assaulted Syrian shopkeepers. Arab politicians wonder whether the Turks know what they are getting into and how they will handle it. ‘The Turks are big on rhetoric but often disappointing when it comes to operational ability,’ one Arab leader says. ‘The Iranians are just the opposite.’ The recent deal between the government and Turkey’s Kurds could easily unravel. A long war in Syria could open up divisions in Turkey just as it is doing elsewhere.
When the US invaded Iraq in 2003, it changed the overall balance of power and destabilised every country in the region. The same thing is happening again, except that the impact of the Syrian war is likely to be less easily contained. Already the frontier dividing the western deserts of Iraq from the eastern deserts of Syria is ceasing to have any physical reality. In April, al-Qaida in Iraq embarrassed the rebels’ Western supporters by revealing that it had founded, reinforced with experienced fighters and devoted half its budget to supporting al-Nusra, militarily the most effective rebel group. When Syrian soldiers fled into Iraq in March they were ambushed by al-Qaida and 48 of them were killed before they could return to Syrian territory.
There is virtually no state in the region that hasn’t got some stake in the conflict. Jordan, though nervous of a jihadi victory in Syria, is allowing arms shipments from Saudi Arabia to reach rebels in southern Syria by road. Qatar has reportedly spent $3 billion on supporting the rebels over the last two years and has offered $50,000 to every Syrian army defector and his family. In co-ordination with the CIA it has sent seventy military flights to Turkey with arms and equipment for the insurgents. The Tunisian government says that eight hundred Tunisians are fighting on the rebel side but security sources are quoted as saying the real figure is closer to two thousand. Moaz al-Khatib, the outgoing president of the Syrian National Coalition, which supposedly represents the opposition, recently resigned, declaring as he did so that the group was controlled by outside powers – i.e. Saudi Arabia and Qatar. ‘The people inside Syria,’ he said, ‘have lost the ability to decide their own fate. I have become only a means to sign some papers while hands from different parties want to decide on behalf of the Syrians.’ He claimed that on one occasion a rebel unit failed to go to the rescue of villagers being massacred by government forces because they hadn’t received instructions from their paymasters.
Fear of widespread disorder and instability is pushing the US, Russia, Iran and others to talk of a diplomatic solution to the conflict. Some sort of peace conference may take place in Geneva over the next month, with the aim at least of stopping things getting worse. But while there is an appetite for diplomacy, nobody knows what a solution would look like. It’s hard to imagine a real agreement being reached when there are so many players with conflicting interests. Five distinct conflicts have become tangled together in Syria: a popular uprising against a dictatorship which is also a sectarian battle between Sunnis and the Alawite sect; a regional struggle between Shia and Sunni which is also a decades-old conflict between an Iranian-led grouping and Iran’s traditional enemies, notably the US and Saudi Arabia. Finally, at another level, there is a reborn Cold War confrontation: Russia and China v. the West. The conflict is full of unexpected and absurd contradictions, such as a purportedly democratic and secular Syrian opposition being funded by the absolute monarchies of the Gulf who are also fundamentalist Sunnis.
By savagely repressing demonstrations two years ago Bashar al-Assad helped turn mass protests into an insurrection which has torn Syria apart. He is probably correct in predicting that diplomacy will fail, that his opponents inside and outside Syria are too divided to agree on a peace deal. He may also be right in believing that greater foreign intervention ‘is a clear probability’. The quagmire is turning out to be even deeper and more dangerous than it was in Iraq.
Round Up
Qatar: Attention-Starved Teen of the Middle East – Bloomberg
… One of the biggest questions asked by people who watch the Middle East is a simple one: What, exactly, does Qatar want? In addition to funding Hamas and providing support for Islamists across the region, Qatar also hosts the forward headquarters of the U.S. Central Command at the huge Al Udeid Air Base. The government of Qatar also hosts, and owns, the Al Jazeera television network, which allows it to project its often anti-American ideas around the world. (The only government that has guaranteed immunity against criticism from Al Jazeera is, unsurprisingly, Qatar’s).
… Many Arab leaders think that Qatar’s leadership is motivated by three basic interests. The first is that Qatar’s emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani (the prime minister’s boss and cousin), actually feels sympathy for Islamists. The second is that despite this sympathy, he understands that the best guarantor of his continued rule in his unhappy neighborhood is the permanent presence of the American military on his territory. The third is that Qatar will support — out of competitiveness, spite and jealousy — whatever Saudi Arabia, its much larger neighbor, opposes.
The ultimate explanation for Qatar’s behavior, however, may be that the country is essentially an attention-starved teenager, whose emotional insecurity causes it to insert itself into everyone’s business. That’s one reason the Qatari government maintains an intermittently open relationship with Israeli officials; it wants to play a central role in the Middle East peace process. This week, it spearheaded a drive to revive negotiations, reintroducing a version of the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative, calling for the establishment of a Palestinian state and normalization of relations between Arabs and Israel.
It may seem improbable that the Qataris would even try to match Saudi Arabia, or any of their larger neighbors, in influence. Qatar is about half the size of Belize. But thanks to its immense oil wealth, the country’s per-capita gross domestic product is one of the highest in the world.
Qatar may also be the biggest exploiter of guest workers in the world. Of a population of roughly 1.9 million, almost 90 percent are migrant workers who, human-rights groups allege, are often treated with great cruelty by their employers and by the state. Qatar was recently chosen to host the 2022 World Cup, and it plans to use an army of exploited Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Nepalese to build its new stadiums.
… When his turn came, Indyk (who is a friend of mine) asked HBJ a series of direct and uncomfortable questions that prompted answers so incredible they had many of the people in the audience not on Qatar’s payroll rolling their eyes. “Whether it’s your bailing out the Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt, or your support for the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria, or Hamas in Gaza,” Indyk said, “there’s the impression that you’re taking sides.”
… Indyk’s next question touched on an even more sensitive subject: Qatar’s support for antigovernment Syrian Islamists, including those with direct ties to al-Qaeda. Again, the prime minister bobbed and weaved, eventually settling on a rhetorical strategy of blaming the U.S.: “We have to do more. The United States has to do more,” he said. “But later, don’t blame us, or you blame yourself, because it will be our mistake together not to intervene.” He ended by scolding his host: “So this rumor, again, it’s between families, which are sometimes jealous. Sometimes we tease each other. Don’t go to this business, Martin.”
Iranian aid to Hamas dwindles as Hamas supports Syrian rebels – Arutz Sheva
The British Daily Telegraph reports that Hamas, which rules Gaza, is paying a heavy price in lost aid over its assistance to the rebels fighting Bashar al-Assad in Syria. Iran has made a meaningful cut in its aid to Hamas, which had previously reached amounts as large as 15 million Australian dollars per month.
… Hamas maintained a neutral stance in the first months of the war, but when it came out on the side of the rebels, its delegation was kicked out of Syria. Its representatives in Lebanon are now feeling similar pressure from Hizbullah.
Syrian rebels and Hezbollah ‘exchange fire in Lebanon’ – BBC
A number of people have been killed in an exchange of fire between Syrian rebels and fighters from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, say reports. Lebanese security sources said the clashes took place on Lebanon’s side of the border, near the town of Baalbek. Hezbollah is fighting alongside the army in Syria, but the clashes have rarely crossed onto Lebanese soil.
Control of Roads in Syria, BBC – ISW
The Counter-Insurgency Role of Syria’s “Popular Committees” – Nick Heras
Although accused by the Syrian opposition of serving the same function as the shabiha (ghosts) paramilitary units that have earned a notorious reputation for committing massacres against Syrian opposition members, the Popular Committees, unlike the shabiha, are not generally deployed in battle outside their area of residence. They are generally armed with light weapons and are organized on the village and city district level. Popular Committee forces man checkpoints, conduct door-to-door raids and occasionally provide support for the Syrian military against the armed Syrian opposition in divided, heavily-contested areas of the country by holding areas cleared of armed opposition members
Alwiya Ahfaad ar-Rasool: A Growing Force in the Syrian Armed Opposition
Alwiya Ahfaad ar-Rasool (Brigades of the Descendants of the Prophet) is an increasingly powerful national umbrella organization of locally-based Syrian Sunni Islamist armed opposition fighting groups which are active belligerents against the al-Assad government. It is a “franchise” organization whose constituent kata’ib (battalions) announce that they are formally part of, and fight under the banner of, the national “Alwiya Ahfaad ar-Rasool.” The number of kata’ib throughout Syria stating that they are a part of Alwiya Ahfaad ar-Rasool has been growing quickly since the organization’s founding in July 2012.
Muslim Brotherhood opens direct link to rebels in Damascus
The Muslim Brotherhood recently opened direct contacts with opposition groups in Damascus, providing them with cash for the first time and promising political influence in an effort to gain their support, according to Syrians organising clandestine relief efforts in rebel-held areas of the capital.
The infusion of cash and offer of political collaboration last week came just days after the Muslim Brotherhood’s secretary general, Raid Al Shaqfa, announced the organisation would reopen offices inside Syria, after years of exile. The Brotherhood’s largesse followed a cutback of relief assistance to some groups in the capital by the Syrian National Coalition (SNC), the officially recognised opposition alliance.
The other afternoon on NPR, Melissa Block interviewed an opponent of intervention in Syria, Joshua Landis of the University of Oklahoma–who argues that Syria would be another Iraq– and promptly brought up Landis’s marriage to a woman from a prominent Alawite family, suggesting that Landis was guilty of dual loyalty in his ideas about Syria.
You will see that the supporter of intervention in Syria who was on the show, Andrew Tabler of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (the thinktank spinoff of the Israel lobby group AIPAC), then ran with Block’s theme; and Landis, on the defensive, was compelled to assert, “I’m an American… I’m an American trying to keep us out of another Iraq-type of venture.”
BLOCK: Joshua Landis, I’d be curious to hear your perspective, as somebody who married into what I gather is a prominent Syrian Alawite family. Alawites are the minority in Syria, party of President Assad and other elites. Help us understand the Alawite perspective on the rebel movement and the future of their country.
LANDIS: Well, as I said, this is a ethnic war and it’s devolving increasingly towards minorities, who are 20 percent of Syria, led by the Alawites, 12 percent, who have monopolized the military and security forces. They have had their foot on the throats of the Sunni-Arab majority for the last 40 or 50 years. Sunni-Arab majority has finally had enough of this and they’re trying to overthrow this regime…
LANDIS: Could I have one rejoinder? Andrew just said that I’m a regime-supporter for making this argument and therefore trying to scare Americans away. I think that’s an unfair accusation. I’m an American.
TABLER: You’ve got to be kidding, Josh. You have been one of the biggest supporters of Bashar al-Assad for a long time, and look, that’s your position. And I think the argument you make…
LANDIS: That’s completely untrue. And I’m an American trying to keep us out of another Iraq-type of venture.
TABLER: I think that you are…
LANDIS: What you are saying is that Syria’s not like Iraq.
TABLER: I’m sorry I don’t agree with you.
LANDIS: And Syria’s exactly like Iraq. This is not about the regime. This is about America staying out of a quagmire, Andrew.
TABLER: Josh, I just think that your positions have come consistently on side of the regime.
LANDIS: Well, that’s because I want Americans to stay out. I think the Syrians have to settle their own problems.
I find this fascinating. For if Landis’s marriage is fair game– and I think it is– then so are the social and ideological adhesions of neoconservatives. Are they Zionists? Do they have family living in Israel? Why did neoconservatives Richard Perle and David Wurmser– who is married to an Israeli-American– write “A Clean Break” for Netanyahu in 1996, calling for regime change in Iraq? Given these connections to a rightwing foreign regime, should these men have served in George Bush’s foreign-policy braintrust? Did not Elliott Abrams and Paul Wolfowitz, who also were part of that brain trust, have family living in Israel?
What about liberal Aaron David Miller, who tells us in his book that concern for Israel was part of his “ethnic DNA.” Should he have been a peace processor? What about Chuck Schumer, who says his name means guardian in Hebrew and he is a guardian of Israel?
Do we ever hear mainstream media buttonholing these people about their connections to Israel or asking, sincerely, Can you help us understand Zionism in Jewish life? No.
Americans have a right to know about these things. From the very beginnings of political Zionism, when Herzl approached French and English Jews and had the door slammed in his face, Jews expressed the fear that Zionism would cast a question on their patriotism. Eric Alterman has said that to be a Zionist is to be dual loyal:
I was raised dually loyal my whole life. When I went to Hebrew school, the content of my Hebrew school was all about supporting Israel. When my parents who I think are here tonight sent me to Israel when I was 14, on a ZOA [Zionist Organization of America]-sponsored trip… it was drummed into me that I should do what’s best for Israel.
Dual loyalty doesn’t mean disqualification. As Louis Brandeis established, such affinities are just part of the American salad. Fine. We are worldly people. We all have adhesions– some of which go across borders. But as Melissa Block believes, it is sometimes fair to discuss those adhesions. Too bad that principle is only honored when it comes to an opponent of neoconservatism.
’67 Interview With Famous Spook About US Coup In Syria Could Easily Apply Today
Western diplomats, politicians and analysts have combined to float quite a few options to supposedly resolve the two-year civil war engulfing much of Syria right now.
Talk of everything from a no-fly zone to an all-out intervention has flown around the digital media and political sphere, and yet, it seems a very few have stated the obvious option: do nothing.
Miles Copeland Jr., a famed CIA Agent who helped the Agency stage a coup in Syria decades ago, suggested exactly that during an interview with the BBC … in 1967.
‘Do nothing,’ Copeland says, partly because interventions are messy ordeals that don’t always work out as planned (kind of like what Army General Martin Dempsey said recently).
We in the West are so mesmerized by a small group of radicals that we lost the ability to see the reality. By fearing the ghost of Afghanistan, we decided to do nothing. Because if we do nothing, we can’t do anything wrong. And this is precisely the huge mistake we are committing today. Because by doing nothing we only make Assad and the Jihadists stronger. While we are leaving those who share our values on their own.
The main excuse I hear for not intervening is: we don’t know what the Free Syrian Army is and we don’t know what they want. It’s a silly excuse. Because if you don’t know, it’s simply because you haven’t done the effort. It’s not that difficult. Two weeks ago, I had a dinner in Turkey with the Chief of Staff of the FSA, Salim Idriss and four of the five Front Commanders. Anyone who does the effort to go to Antakya will be able to meet any officer of the FSA. You will hear that they want freedom and democracy, that they try everything in order to respect human rights, protect the minorities and help the refugees. But you will also hear that they don’t have the means to achieve these goals properly.
How John Kerry got played by Vladimir Putin on a plan to save Syria – FP
… The pro-Kremlin newspaper Izvestia claimed that Kerry had been “counting on convincing Moscow not to block sanctions against Damascus. It didn’t work.” Even if false, the framing of the story provides good insight into how the Russian government viewed these talks. And in the end, Kerry gave Putin exactly what he wanted: Washington’s assent to a renewed push for negotiations to end the geopolitical catastrophe in Syria. …
How McCain’s Daughter Found Out her Dad was in Syria: Twitter
Would the U.S. be militarily ready for intervention in Syria? – Blogger’s opinion
Redlines and the Problems of Intervention in Syria – STRATFOR
The civil war in Syria, one of the few lasting legacies of the Arab Spring, has been under way for more than two years. There has been substantial outside intervention in the war. The Iranians in particular, and the Russians to a lesser extent, have supported the Alawites under Bashar al Assad. The Saudis and some of the Gulf States have supported the Sunni insurgents in various ways. The Americans, Europeans and Israelis, however, have for the most part avoided involvement. …
Bashir Abazed
The boy prankster who triggered Syria’s bloody genocide with slogans sprayed in his schoolyard
It was a typical day for the teenagers, with school followed by a game of football – no different from millions of other boys around the world. Afterwards, they sat about chatting and joking, with one eye on television reports of the revolutions that had flared in Egypt and Libya.
There were seven boys, good friends who had grown up together on the same streets of a suburb of Deraa, a prosperous agricultural city in the south of Syria. They talked about the uprisings engulfing the region and their frustration that their nation, ruled by the repressive Assad family for four decades, had escaped the waves of unrest.
Suddenly, one of them had an idea – to paint graffiti on the school walls to annoy the security forces. So the boys waited until after evening prayers. Then, on that February night two years ago, they sneaked into their schoolyard and began spraying slogans of protest.
Bashir Abazed, 15, painted in huge letters the words ‘Ejak el door ya Doctor’ (It is your turn, Doctor)…
Amazing set of photos from the front line, highly recommended… and heartbreaking.
Comments (599)
jo6pac said:
What a mess Amerika and it’s proxies have made of Syria. This was never about revolution it was about the removal of Assad so the neo-conns in Amerika can go on to Tehran. I said this here at this site when this all started and even through Amerikan public says No the Amerikan govt says yes. I’m sorry.
Sorry to see this happening to Turkey but greed isn’t cutting it.
June 2nd, 2013, 6:12 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Secular Turks are uniting and showing some spine, but the blue eyed anthropologist insists on driving the “sectarian” thermometer into the native’s behind.
June 2nd, 2013, 6:33 pm
majoos said:
IMO the motivation of the West to intervene into Middle Eastern affairs is primary driven my messianistic aspirations.
Mark, Jonathan
The Jewish Week
03-14-2003
The looming war with Iraq has long ago taken on the language of a religious
crusade, in Arab capitals as well as the White House. But the Jewish
messianic excitement that grew out of the first Gulf War back in 1991 is
more muted now, humbled after a decade of the crash and burn of the peace
process, controversy over the Lubavitch messianic aspirations, and Israel’s
Palestinian war that has shown little evidence of anyone’s grand plan, let
alone God’s. And yet, deep into conversations, Orthodox Jews are saying an
Iraq war might be of a piece with nothing less than the Messiah’s arrival.
June 2nd, 2013, 6:48 pm
majoos said:
New York Times
Is It Good for the Jews?
By BILL KELLER
Published: March 08, 2003
Two weeks ago, a group of senior intelligence officials in the Defense Department sat for an hour listening to a briefing by a writer who claims — I am not making this up — that messages encoded in the Hebrew text of the Old Testament provide clues to the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden. One of the officials told me that they had agreed to meet the writer, Michael Drosnin, author of a Nostradamus-style best seller, without understanding that he was promoting Biblical prophecy. Still, rather than shoo him away, they listened politely as he consumed several man-hours of valuable intelligence-crunching time. Apparently he has given similar briefings to top officials of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency….
June 2nd, 2013, 6:59 pm
dawoud said:
Just a natural demonstration in a democratic system when the PM of Turkey has stopped even using WATER canons has gotten “Syria Comment’s” attention. Are you guys trying to compare it to the ongoing genocidal war that Bashar al-Assad and his Shia Lebanese ally (surely, with Iran’s advice/instructions) are waging against the Syrian people, particularly the Sunni Muslim Syrians? Preposterous!!!!!!!!!!
Did PM Erdogan “inherit” his job from his father (like genocidal/war criminal Bashar al-Assad), or obtained it in a military coup like murderous Hafez al-Assad?!!! Of course, NOT! Is Erdogan hitting Turkish demonstrators (who are vandalizing streets, unlike the first 6 months of the Syrian Revolt when demonstrators where chanting “silmiyah” “peaceful”) with Scud missiles and chemical weapons like Bashar al-Assad is doing to Syrians? NO, and no!!!!!!!!!!!
Free Syria, Free Palestine!
June 2nd, 2013, 7:04 pm
majoos said:
Further information about messianism and the idea of “forcing the end”:
Evangelicals and Israel: The Story of American Christian Zionism
By Stephen Spector
http://books.google.de/books?id=g032JSwK8DwC&pg=PA299&dq=forcing+the+end&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8tCrUbiMEsaStAaIhoGoBQ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=forcing%20the%20end&f=false
Messianism, Zionism, and Jewish Religious Radicalism
By Aviezer Ravitzky
http://books.google.de/books?id=aYssTVxfGk0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=forcing+the+end&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8tCrUbiMEsaStAaIhoGoBQ&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAQ
June 2nd, 2013, 7:14 pm
majoos said:
@dawood
Did PM Erdogan “inherit” his job from his father.
Yes, Erdogan inherited his office from his “NATO” daddies!
This interview in the GERMAN newspaper WELT conducted with his mentor and Turkey´s first islamic prime minister Erbakan held in 2010 a couple of months before he passed away.
“Erdogan ist ein Kassierer des Zionismus” “Erdogan is a collector of Zionism”
http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article10769062/Erdogan-ist-ein-Kassierer-des-Zionismus.html
June 2nd, 2013, 7:20 pm
dawoud said:
Salute to the great Lebanese journalist Samir Qasir (a champion of Palestinian rights and opponent of dictatorial Syria) on the anniversary of his assassination. He was assassinated by Bashar al-Assad and his Shia Lebanese ally the Hizb—-.
A street in occupied Ramallah is named after Samir Qasir. One day a street in free Jerusalem, maybe in a Christian neighborhood to celebrate his faith, will also be named after him!
Salute to brother Samir Qasir!
http://www.annahar.com/article/37807-%D8%B3%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D9%82%D8%B5%D9%8A%D8%B1-…-%D8%B5%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AD%D9%83-%D8%AB%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%86
سمير قصير … صباحك الثامن
ثمانية اعوام بلا سمير قصير واذا به حاضر اكثر مما كان . اما انه فعلا زارع ً الربيع ً او ان هذا الربيع تخلف الى حد انتظار سمير قصير ما ياتي لنجدته من الجنوح والجنون. ومهما يكن فان سميرا لم ينتظر يوما من يمنحه شهادة حسن سلوك او وساما في كار زراعة الثورات اذ انه حين راح يسكر بنشوة ثورة الارز لم تدم نشوته طويلا حتى فاجا الجميع يوما يستل قلمه عبر ًالنهارً وينبري الى انتقاد الثورة وهي في عز مطالعها. هكذا كان لاذعا ومستعليا ووفيا وجانحا في الجراة تماما كما مقالاته.
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June 2nd, 2013, 7:24 pm
majoos said:
Many secular Turks who don t share your enmity against Alawites, Alevites and other religious minorities are just frightened, especially seeing their neighbours Iraq and Syria ruined because of sectarian war that Erdogans more and more open anti-alevite rethoric will provoke similar conflicts in Turkey.
If Erdogan hadn t bought a “peace” with the Kurdish PKK he would had almost the entire country against him.
June 2nd, 2013, 7:27 pm
majoos said:
The Turkish secret service created the PKK in the early 80´s to undermine the Devrimci SOL, a leftist movement in Turkey, which was heavily dominated by Alevites.
All leading Alevites within the PKK were killed by Öcalan.
http://books.google.de/books?id=DZqgeLqFfAUC&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=pkk+%22MIT%22+creation&source=bl&ots=zSFOzCQbS0&sig=fICD-vNXW5zl-Q5p1x7NzKhir40&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QdWrUcfgCoWmtAaQyYHYBQ&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q&f=false
June 2nd, 2013, 7:33 pm
revenire said:
Erdogan is a terrible dictator hated by Turks. He will keep on killing until he is removed. If the army wants to stop this a coup is in order.
June 2nd, 2013, 7:36 pm
revenire said:
HNN Homs News Network
ERDOGAN’S HEADQUARTERS ON FIRE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE AKP (Erdogan’s party) Headquarters on fire RIGHT NOW in Izmir- Karşıyaka
YOU HAVE NO PEOPLE, NO MILITARY, NO OFFICE AND NO ONE TO SAVE YOU, STEP DOWN YOU EVIL DICTATOR … – J
LIVE
http://www.bamteli.tc/
http://www.livestream.com/revoltistanbul
June 2nd, 2013, 7:38 pm
Tara said:
The Silence and the Roar by Nihad Sirees – review
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/jun/02/silence-roar-nihad-sirees-review
The country in The Silence and the Roar is unnamed, as is the “Leader”. The atmosphere is distinctly Orwellian; the people are “celebrating” 20 years of his rule and anyone daring to turn their back on the marches, the devotional chanting and even the television programmes – the “roar” of the book’s title – is under suspicion.
..
“Thought,” he writes, “is retribution, a crime, treason against the Leader.”
…
June 2nd, 2013, 7:42 pm
majoos said:
CNNtürk vs CNN
https://twitter.com/serkanbulu/status/341133620913782784/photo/1
This graphic shows Erdogan s consolidation of TURKISH media:
June 2nd, 2013, 7:50 pm
majoos said:
http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_75925232/tm.htm
Izmir ´s AKP building is turning into ashes.
NO COMPROMISE WITH ISLAMISTS!
June 2nd, 2013, 7:55 pm
revenire said:
Live right now – brave Turks protest dictator Erdogan!
http://rt.com/on-air/turkey-protest-istanbul-park/
Protests in Istanbul and Ankara are entering the third day. On Friday and Saturday, Turkish police fired tear gas and water cannon at people protesting government plans to uproot trees in an Istanbul park, igniting a furious protest that turned into an anti-government demonstration which spread to other cities.
June 2nd, 2013, 8:01 pm
Tara said:
It is not anything like the Syrian Spring. This is a self limited protest that can happen in any democratic country and soon a settlement will ensue. Please do not get excited.
Why is it not a ‘Turkish spring’?
– That is why the ‘Turkish Spring’ analogy of the Taksim protests in reference to the Arab Spring was too quick and over-stretching of reality in Turkey; democratic actors have still power in power here to intervene in and contribute for a settlement which can be effective in a short period of time. It is true that the Taksim protests demonstrated the ‘other 50 percent’s’ worriers regarding not only about a secular way of life but also about a less pluralistic society and politics.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/why-is-it-not-a-turkish-spring.aspx?pageID=449&nID=48071&NewsCatID=409
June 2nd, 2013, 8:02 pm
Uzair8 said:
The turkish situation from a muslim point of view. I read a couple of posts on a traditional muslim forum of Sunni-Sufi background. It so happens the users are critics of the Syrian revolution.
The first one
The second:
‘They are sharaabis {alcohol drinkers} who are protesting. Have you not seen them with their alcohol bottles? They are outraged that the Government has brought in a law that bans the consumption of alcohol after 10pm (till 6am). They say he is making the country more Islamic. The trouble for these western wannabe secularists/atheists is that Erdogan has won 3 consecutive elections and his votes get higher every time, winning incredibly nearly 50% of the entire vote in 2011. These sharaab drinkers and their co-secularist politicians are fortunately in the minority and they would get annihilated if an election took place. They are angry because they are a minority – that’s democracy my friend.
If a few thousand people wish to create havoc, they will be heard. Nothing surprising there.
A Turkish Spring? No way. The Arab leaders were dictators whereas this man has been democratically elected 3 times, winning landslide victories. They have no grounds to remove him. While European economies faced the financial crash, in the first 6 months of 2010 the Turkish economy grew by a massive 11% and has grown over 5% every year since. It’s a power house. According to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Turkey will exceed China, United States, Brazil, and Japan in the rise of national income.
I agree {with previous posters critical comments} about his stance on Syria and I’ve seen Galloway’s comments. I do think though, that he cannot just walk out of NATO and turn his back on the US and Europe. Many in his country, and in the West distrust him as an Islamist who is turning the country away from secularism (that’s why they want him out and would like to call it a “Turkish Spring”). So if he makes any drastic moves it will simply confirm that for them and he will not have the same influence (and they will do everything to destabilise him). The powerful army establishment (loyal to Ataturk principles) already wants to remove him but they can’t because of his popularity and success. He has to play it slow. To his credit, he actually got quite close to Assad a couple of years ago so it might be a genuine concern for the people being killed by Assad (something we should not ignore-Assad is evil, even if the US, UK and Wahhabi terrorists hate him).
He was very brave in cutting off ties with Israel. Yes he has restored them due to pressure from the US (and an apology from Israel) but all this I think is him being smart and pragmatic. Slow and steady wins the race!’
http://www.yanabi.com/index.php?/topic/428682-turkish-spring-on-its-way/page__view__findpost__p__468899
June 2nd, 2013, 8:04 pm
Ghufran said:
Sounds familiar?
خرج عشرات الآلاف إلى الشوارع في أكبر أربع مدن تركية يوم الأحد واشتبكوا مع شرطة مكافحة الشغب التي أطلقت الغاز المسيل للدموع في ثالث يوم من الاحتجاجات المناوئة للحكومة والأعنف في البلاد منذ سنوات.
وحمل رئيس الوزراء التركي طيب اردوغان حزب المعارضة الرئيسي مسؤولية تحريض المحتجين الذين وصفهم بأنهم “بضعة لصوص” وقال إن هذه الاحتجاجات تهدف إلى تقليص عدد الأصوات التي سيحصل عليها حزبه العدالة والتنمية الحاكم في الانتخابات
وقال اردوغان إنه سيتم المضي قدما في خطط تجديد الميدان -الذي ظل موقعا رمزيا لتنظيم المظاهرات الحاشدة لفترة طويلة- بما في ذلك بناء مسجد جديد وإعادة بناء ثكنة عثمانية.
وأشار رئيس الوزراء إلى أن الاحتجاجات ليس لها أي صلة بخطط الحكومة.
وقال في مقابلة بثها التلفزيون التركي “إنها (الاحتجاجات) أيديولوجية محضة.”
وأضاف “حزب المعارضة الرئيسي الذي يطلق دعوات للمقاومة في كل الشوارع يثير هذه الاحتجاجات… هذا الأمر يتعلق بحزبي الحاكم وبالانتخابات المحلية الوشيكة في اسطنبول وبجهود تهدف إلى أن يخسر حزب العدالة والتنمية أصواتا هنا.”
ومن المقرر أن تجري تركيا انتخابات محلية ورئاسية العام المقبل يتوقع أن يخوضها اردوغان تتبعها انتخابات برلمانية في عام 2015.
ونفى حزب الشعب الجمهوري أكبر أحزاب المعارضة تدبير الاضطرابات ملقيا اللوم على سياسات اردوغان.
وقال محمد عاكف حمزة شابي أحد كبار أعضاء الحزب “اليوم لم يعد انتماء الناس في شوارع تركيا مقتصرا على حزب الشعب الجمهوري ولكنهم ينتمون إلى جميع المذاهب الفكرية والأحزاب.”
وأبلغ رويترز قائلا “ما ينبغي على اردوغان فعله ليس إلقاء اللوم على حزب الشعب الجمهوري بل استخلاص الدروس المستفادة مما حدث.”
The GCC was not happy about Nusra being designated as a terrorist organization by the UN so they declared hizbullah as a terrorist organization and will now ask the EU and the UN to do the same, and those sheikhs may now take measures to expel Lebanese from their countries and keep a close eye on their own Shia citizens.
June 2nd, 2013, 8:09 pm
majoos said:
Also Erdolph s predecessor Adolph was democratically elected!
June 2nd, 2013, 8:10 pm
majoos said:
Erbakan, Turkeys former islamic prime minister and mentor of Erdogan described Erdogan after the staged flotilla incident as a “helper of Zionism”
http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article10769062/Erdogan-ist-ein-Kassierer-des-Zionismus.html
June 2nd, 2013, 8:13 pm
revenire said:
The Turkish people are demanding their freedom from the dictator Erdogan. I support these brave heroes against this NATO stooge.
Erdogan must heed his people’s demand he step down.
June 2nd, 2013, 8:14 pm
Dawoud said:
18. UZAIR8
Brother UZAIR8, you and I are on the same side against the murderous Syrian dictator, and let’s be more civilized by NOT abusing the rules. You are posting the entire article, which violates Mathew Barber’s rules. Please don’t do this because I like you, and I don’t want to see you banned!
MATHEW BARBER:
CITIZEN is abusing the rules by posting too many embedded videos (please see the al-Youqoubi post). He also posted a very long article in that thread. Are you enforcing the rules against embedding video? I have stopped doing so. As to you criticizing my comments about the Shia Lebanese terrorist party, I am accepting your criticism and refraining from using “Hezbass,” but I can’t stop posting about this terrorist party’s destructive/disproportionate and sectarian role in the ongoing Syrian conflict. I am NOT doing so to instigate or cause “confrontation” or sectarianism, but because I am disturbed by the Iranian role (this party’s involvement in Syria is consistent with and reflective of Tehran’s wishes) in the Syrian conflict. If you don’t like me posting about this party, you are engaging in censorship-and I don’t believe that you are a person who would do so. As to staying on point or subject, please look here at this thread or article-which is about Turkey-and see how many comments are NOT about Turkey! That’s OK because we are all expressing our opinions and speaking about what’s on our minds. However, in my own case, even when I over-focus on this Lebanese terrorist party, I always do it in the Syrian context.
Thanks
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/06/201362124623327523.html
Syria rebels battle Hezbollah in Lebanon
Several killed as Lebanese fighters clash with Syrian rebels in first face-to-face confrontation inside Lebanon.
Last Modified: 02 Jun 2013 23:39
June 2nd, 2013, 9:18 pm
revenire said:
LOL wow.
June 2nd, 2013, 9:33 pm
Dawoud said:
Thanks 18. UZAIR8. I am posting below the “one” because I agree with it, and it accurately describes the current riots in Turkey. I just comment PM Erdogan for his restraint. Turks should be very thankful that the murderous Syrian dictator, Bashar al-Assad, weren’t their leader. Otherwise, they would be facing Scud missiles, explosive barrels thrown from air, MiGs firing on civilians, Shabiha death squads cutting throats with knives, chemical weapons, Shia Lebanese/Iraqi terrorists/death squads invading their homeland, etc.!!!!!!!!
http://www.yanabi.com/index.php?/topic/428682-turkish-spring-on-its-way/page__p__468897#entry468897
“Turkish protesters are calling on the ‘democratically elected’ government to resign just becasue of building shopping centre over city centre park??
It’s not even worth to protest the large-scale rioting ‘spiraling out of control’, they are actually Ataturk worshipers (atheist, secularists and anti-scarf) protesting against ‘Islamization’ of Turkey. “
June 2nd, 2013, 10:02 pm
zoo said:
They supported Saddam Hossein for 8 years during the Iran=Iraq war even when he was using chemical against the Kurds and mass killings the Shias. They did that because he was a Sunni ‘brother’ and Iran is the Shia ‘heretic’. Now the short-sighted and pathetic GCC rich gulf countries are now uniting to support Al Qaeda against Hezbollah.
They should not forget that as a sign of gratitude, Saddam Hossein invaded Kuwait. Al Qaeda will find its way in the Gulf too and in all countries that ‘helped’ them.
June 2nd, 2013, 10:12 pm
zoo said:
#23 Reve
Lots of Lol! I don’t envy Matt to have to reply to these childish posts.
June 2nd, 2013, 10:14 pm
zoo said:
Iran and Russia are loyal friends who keep their promises and are sending the latest technology to their long term allies.
Will Saudi Arabia and Qatar find another stock of old and rusty Croatian weapons to send to their desperate friends, or will they send without the USA approval the billions $ of old US weapons rotting in Saudi warehouses ?
Russian, Iranian tech boosts Syrian government forces
Washington Post
Sunday, June 2, 2013 4:30am
http://www.tampabay.com/news/world/russian-iranian-tech-boosts-syrian-government-forces/2124461
RAMTHA, Jordan — Sophisticated technology from Russia and Iran has given Syrian government troops new advantages in tracking and destroying their foes, helping them solidify battlefield gains against rebels, according to Middle Eastern intelligence officials and analysts.
…
Analysts say the presence of other technically advanced weapons, including mortar-tracking systems, has been inferred from reports by rebel fighters and intelligence operatives inside Syria, as well as military observers in neighboring countries. From their scattered observation posts along the border, Jordanian military officials described seeing direct and indirect evidence of new weapons and equipment tipping the balance in favor of Syrian troops and allies supporting President Bashar Assad’s government.
“We’re seeing many things we haven’t seen before,” said Brig. Gen. Hussein al-Zyoud, commander of Jordanian border security forces. “We’ve seen new kinds of armored vehicles, and other vehicles used for jamming communications. We’re seeing night-vision and thermal devices that we haven’t seen in the past.”
The new hardware, much of it from Russia and Iran, has added to a sense of momentum that pro-government forces have been enjoying since mid spring.
June 2nd, 2013, 10:22 pm
zoo said:
One of Erdogan famous sentences: “Twitter is a menace to the society”
Turkey’s PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan has lashed out at the role of social media in helping organize and co-ordinate rallies, after the wave of large-scale protests that gripped the country.
“There is now a menace which is called Twitter,” Erdogan said in an interview for Haberturk Sunday evening. “The best examples of lies can be found there. To me, social media is the worst menace to society.”
June 2nd, 2013, 10:28 pm
revenire said:
I could not believe it when I heard dictator Erdogan say Twitter was evil. What is wrong with these people? Is this some sort of religious brainwashing?
I am surprised our forum “cop” even knows who Kemal Ataturk is.
June 2nd, 2013, 10:36 pm
zoo said:
No more HBJ, now it’s SBS Salmam bin Sultan…
Saudi Arabia edges out Qatar for control over Syrian rebel support
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Jun-03/219212-saudi-arabia-edges-out-qatar-for-control-over-syrian-rebel-support.ashx#axzz2V7Ia3PWB
BEIRUT: Saudi Arabia has prevailed over its small but ambitious neighbor Qatar to impose itself as the main outside force supporting the Syrian rebels, a move that may curb the influence of Qatari-backed Islamist militants. Though governments in neither Riyadh nor Doha would provide official comment, several senior sources in the region told Reuters that the past week’s wrangling among Syria’s opposition factions in Istanbul was largely a struggle for control between the two Gulf monarchies, in which Saudi power finally won out.
“Saudi Arabia is now formally in charge of the Syria issue,” said a senior rebel military commander in one of northern Syria’s border provinces where Qatar has until now been the main supplier of arms to those fighting President Bashar Assad.
Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Jun-03/219212-saudi-arabia-edges-out-qatar-for-control-over-syrian-rebel-support.ashx#ixzz2V7J9flit
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
June 2nd, 2013, 10:43 pm
zoo said:
Revenire
It would be rewarding to gather all the stupidities that Erdogan has been saying in the past years when in a state of tantrum. They show how mentally damaged he has become by his excessive ingestion of “ayran”, the islamic preferred drink…
June 2nd, 2013, 10:47 pm
zoo said:
Instead of being concerned by the thousands wounded by the police brutality, Davutoglu laments about the ‘image’ of Turkey abroad.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/374445
Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu warned in a Twitter message: “The continuation of these protests… will bring no benefits but will harm the reputation of our country which is admired both in the region and the world.”
June 2nd, 2013, 10:55 pm
revenire said:
The Turkish government is obscene. They’re nothing but a pack of killers.
June 2nd, 2013, 11:01 pm
Ziad said:
MP Laurent Louis of Brussels Belgium holding the picture of Assad during a rally for Turkey and Syria
https://twitter.com/gi_syrian/status/341351810684026881/photo/1
June 2nd, 2013, 11:08 pm
zoo said:
Anyone knows who is “Prince Salman ben Sultan” now in charge of the opposition? He is the younger brother of Prince Bandar Ben Sultan who has been in charge of Syria for the last year with the results we know
Do not confuse him with Sultan Ben Salman…
June 2nd, 2013, 11:13 pm
Ghufran said:
One should not equate firing water canons and tear gar at protestors in turkey to what happened and continues to happen in Syria, however, I do not think the Turkish government will be forgiving if the protests turn violent and protestors start to use weapons, something I think is unlikely in Turkey except in rural areas and Kurds controlled territories.
Turkey did not get to where it is today until after decades of army rule and solid secular control over the government, Erdogan made millions of Turks happy until now by allowing the economy to grow and helping hundred of thousands of Turkish youth get well paying jobs, but a lot of Turks are unhappy about Erdogan’s attempt to Islamize the government and many are uncomfortable with his Syrian policies. Before you act as cheer leaders for Erdogan you need to remember what was behind turkey’s success and admit that the ottomans and modern day Turks have a lot to answer about their treatment of Arabs between 16-20 century, their massacres against the Armenians , their brutal campaign against the Kurds and their refusal to give equal religious rights to millions of alevis. If you want Syria to be like Turkey you have to read the history of Turkey and understand that law and order are prerequisites for stability , democracy and economic prosperity. None of the successful Muslim countries economies allowed chaos and extremism to take hold of the society, Syria needs a strong and unified government to be saved, Assad and his cronies are taking advantage of the mess and total disorder caused by the war and are blaming the opposition , NATO and Syria’s neighbors for it, many Syrians agree, I still believe that the regime deserve most of the blame but obviously the use of arms against the army was a strategic mistake, it produced short term gains but the long term results will be devastating for Syrians including the opposition.
June 2nd, 2013, 11:43 pm
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
SCUD Massacre in Kafr Hamra, Aleppo
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/scud-massacre-in-kafr-hamra-aleppo/
June 2nd, 2013, 11:52 pm
Dawoud said:
37. Hamoudeh al-Halabi
It’s funny that regime supporters on “Syria Comment” are criticizing Turkey’s PM Erdogan for using WATER canons to stop rioters in Istanbul WHILE AT THE SAME TIME supporting the Syrian murderous dictator, who is killing Syrians with Scud missiles and chemical weapons!
June 2nd, 2013, 11:59 pm
Dawoud said:
Nick Heras writes: ” The mostly Sunni Turkmen of Syria represent a significant ethnic minority community that is located throughout the country, particularly in diverse and highly strategic areas that are currently the sites of significant conflict. […]
Yes, Turkmen in Syria are overwhelmingly SUNNI, and so is are Syria’s Kurds. If you add to them the majority Sunni Syrian Arabs, SUNNIS are at least 85% of Syria’s population. Thus, the bloody sectarians from Iran, Lebanon’s Shia party of terrorists, etc. will have to kill most Syrians and ethnically-cleanse Syria of most of its population in order for them to establish Iran’s Wilayet al-Faqih theocracy in Syria. It Will NOT happen! Free Syria will prevail!
June 3rd, 2013, 12:05 am
Juergen said:
Uzair
I find the rhetorics of the AKP and Erdogan himself not helpful to put that diplomatically. The difference to the Arab spring is that in Turkey the people have all the constitutional rights to vote, and if this is a beginning of an new secular, ecological party movement, the better for the Turkish democracy. I find that Erdogan and the AKP have lost credibility but were still able to win the elections in 2011, if the opposition which differs from hardline communists to right wing nationalists would unite, lets say under an less extreme banner, they have a chance of voting Erdogan and the AKP out. I would just like to see that Erdogan in the meantime can finish an very importan task, to limit the armys access on the country, since Atatürk, the army was the biggest danger to democarcy in Turkey.
June 3rd, 2013, 12:17 am
Juergen said:
Ukraine/Russian soldiers ready to fight for Assad in Syria
June 3rd, 2013, 12:19 am
Ghufran said:
فاروق يوسف
كان مثال القذافي السيء معجزة سلبية فريدة من نوعها في التاريخ. لذلك فان المعارضة السورية حين كانت تحلم بتطبيق الحل الليبي في سوريا قد عبرت عن انفصالها عن الواقع السوري وعن مزاج الحكم الذي انتقل بسوريا من عصر الانقلابات العسكرية والحزبية إلى عصر الوراثة العائلية. نقص في المعلومات ظهرت من خلاله تلك المعارضة كما لو أن أفرادها لا يعرفون شيئا عن طبيعة النظام الذي يتحكم بمقاليد الأمور ومصائر الناس في بلادهم منذ أكثر من أربعين سنة.
كان عليهم أن يدركوا أن سوريا ليست ليبيا وأن درعا ليست بنغازي وأخيرا أن بشار الأسد ليس معمر القذافي. فعلى العكس تماما من ليبيا فان الاسد الابن كان قد ورث دولة مؤسسات وحزبا تصل يده إلى كل مكان وأجهزة مخابرات وأمن لديها معلومات عن أكثر الأشياء تفاهة في حياة السوريين واقتصادا مستقرا وجيشا مسلحا لم يستعمل إلا في النزهة اللبنانية وأخيرا علاقات وفاء تربطه بقوى دولية كانت ولا تزال جاهزة للدخول في حرب عالمية من أجل حمايته.
كل هذا الارث الذي لا يستهان به كان سببا لفشل الـ”كش” التي لم تقلها المعارضة السورية وحدها، بل شاركها فيها العالم الغربي كله والجزء الاكبر من العالم العربي ممثلا بجامعة الدول العربية. بل أن روسيا استطاعت أن تلغي تلك الـ”كش” وبموافقة اميركية من جدول أعمال مؤتمر جنيف 2 الذي يأمل المشاركون فيه أن يرسموا سياسيا صورة لسوريا المستقبل بعد أن انتهت الحرب إلى طريق مسدودة.
كانت المعارضة السورية مصرة على أن يكون استبعاد الأسد شرطها للذهاب إلى جنيف، غير أنها عدلت عنه، لا لأنها استوعبت الدروس الموضوعية التي نتجت عن حرب عبثية أفضت بسوريا إلى خراب لا سابق له في تاريخها بل لأنها أدركت أن عدم ذهابها إلى جنيف يعني تخليها عن الشعب السوري ومنح النظام لحظة الظفر التي ينتظرها.
بالنسبة لجزء كبير من المعارضة وهو الجزء الذي كان يراهن على الحل العسكري فان بقاء الاسد في الحكم ولو ليوم واحد بعد الحرب انما يعني خروجه منتصرا. وهو رأي لا قيمة له أمام ما يجب أن يشعر به الجميع من مسؤولية تاريخية للخروج بسوريا من مستنقع الدم والكراهية والدمار الذي صارت تغرق فيه. وهي المسؤولية التي تحتم على الجميع نظاما ومعارضة الاعتراف بفشل خياراتهم السابقة
June 3rd, 2013, 12:28 am
Juergen said:
Reve
If Erdogan is an dictator what is Assad then? As one said it right these days,” I will consider Erdogan as an dictator when he starts torturing children.”
June 3rd, 2013, 12:49 am
Dawoud said:
Thanks PM Erdogan for saying that the Syrian war criminal Bashar al-Assad will be deposed “sooner or later!”
http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/9a8a30d6-f33b-42e3-b1bf-981e1495139e
أردوغان: الأسد سيرحل عاجلا أم آجلا
أكد رئيس الوزراء التركي رجب طيب أردوغان أن نظام الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد ضعيف، مشددا على أن الكفة على الأرض راجحة لمصلحة المعارضة السورية. في الأثناء قالت فرنسا إن مؤتمر جنيف 2 يعد “الفرصة الأخيرة” لحل الأزمة في سوريا.
[…]
June 3rd, 2013, 1:17 am
Citizen said:
http://youtu.be/lWWHfTK1ZUQ?t=47s
June 3rd, 2013, 1:32 am
Ghufran said:
I think the Turkish ruling party played a destructive role in the Syrian crisis since 2011 and that should have legal and political consequences, however, Erdogan was elected and did not inherit the title of PM from his dad. Comparing Turkish political system with that of Syria’s is a joke, being anti Erdogan does not mean being pro Ba’ath or pro Assad, this regime needs to be changed and Assad rule needs to end by peaceful means, using violence to achieve that goal was a gift to the regime, some did it for revenge, some got paid to do this dirty job, but others, mostly non Syrians, simply wanted to destroy the country, Syria obviously had a lot of useful idiots on both sides, your kids and grand kids will pay the price of this criminal stupidity.
June 3rd, 2013, 2:18 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Meanwhile, the number of deaths in Turkey after 4 days of protests has risen to a staggering zero confirmed fatalities and 2 unconfirmed fatalities mentioned by russian media. At the same time, athad, in protest of Erdoghan’s mistreatment of Turks, fired a scud missile at the Syrian town of Kafar Hamra. Observers say that the death toll was a negligible 75 including many children. It was once more “hardly a massacre” the athads excelled at.
June 3rd, 2013, 3:14 am
habib said:
47. SYRIAN HAMSTER
Lol at “unconfirmed” fatalities. Do you think Erdogan would admit to have killed any people?
One of the killed was a girl. This is only the beginning.
Funny how the champions of “democracy” in Syria are now the advocates of Erdogan’s anti-democratic tactics in Turkey. Hypocrisy at its peak.
June 3rd, 2013, 6:41 am
Akbar Palace said:
Turkey Scuds her own cities and other Fables NewZ
SYRIAN HAMSTER,
I hear you, and I agree with you. There is NO comparison; it’s ridiculous at this point.
From my vantage point, the US and Israel are still totally confused about which side to “support”. Some like McCain want to support the rebels, others claim the jihadi opposition is worse than Assad.
I, myself, am more apt to support the rebels, jihadi or otherwise, because the end result should be a free Syria where the people vote for their leaders. I don’t think Syrians will allow Syria to become a theocracy. The West and even Israel should try to meet with the opposition.
June 3rd, 2013, 7:00 am
majoos said:
I call to the SAA to treat the captured takfiris as how they would treat their opponents.
They should be castrated, sent into slavery and dispossessed.
NO COMPROMISE WITH ISLAMISTS!
June 3rd, 2013, 7:04 am
majoos said:
Salafism, Wahabism and Takfirism are not part of the SUNNI fold.
Their only aim is to ridicule Sunnism.
Even though they had some ideological forerunners with Sultan Selim, for the most part they were despised by the four maktabs of Sunnism.
wiki:
Selim II (Ottoman Turkish: سليم ثانى Selīm-i sānī, Turkish:II.Selim; 28 May 1524 – 12 December/15 December 1574), also known as “Selim the Sot (Mest)” or “Selim the Drunkard”; and as “Sarı Selim”, “Sarhoş Selim” and “Selim the Blond”, was the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire from 1566 until his death in 1574.
His father and grandfather were also known to be alcoholics and opium-junkies.
June 3rd, 2013, 7:13 am
majoos said:
@Akhbar
“The West and even Israel should try to meet with the opposition.”
The West and Israel created this terrorist opposition. And undermined the real opposition who all side now with Assad. What s their option if the opposite side are nothing more than barbarious sectarian terrorists.
June 3rd, 2013, 7:17 am
majoos said:
Erdogans pseudo-economic growths, which is actually build on a heavy increase of private debts is plunging.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-06-03/turkish-stock-market-plunges-over-protests
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-13/erdogan-s-imf-triumph-masks-surge-in-private-debt-turkey-credit.html
June 3rd, 2013, 7:30 am
habib said:
Grizzly footage of a girl who was shot in the head by a Turkish gas grenade (1:43). It issaid that she later died:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=304_1370018840&comments=1
Of course, Turkish and western media will not play this.
June 3rd, 2013, 7:31 am
majoos said:
The resistance should redirect it s prime focus to Saudi-Regimia and Qatar. The middle east and the world will never be shot of terrorism as long as this two “kingdoms” exist.
June 3rd, 2013, 7:40 am
Dawoud said:
Thanks to the murderous Syrian dictator, Bashar al-Assad, and Iran (directly and through its puppet Shia Lebanese terrorist party, which is now invading Syria), Israel is happy watching Arabs and Muslims kill each other! This is what the right-wing Israeli defense minister, Yaalon, told Knesset today-according to Haaretz:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-s-defense-minister-hezbollah-moving-elite-fighters-into-syria-1.527481
[…]
Speaking at the Knesset’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Ya’alon said that Hezbollah is moving its elite forces into Syria, and that the country has become a battleground between the Shia and Sunni worlds with each side “massacring the other.”
[…]
June 3rd, 2013, 7:47 am
Dawoud said:
“reicule Sunnism,” as one commentator here puts it! What about the Iranian minister who promises to “broadcast the sound and picture of the ‘hidden/expected’ Mahdi [the Shia Messiah]?!!” Very soon they promise to show us the sound and picture of God استغفر الله العظيم 🙂
http://www.daralakhbar.com/articles/3056941-%D9%88%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A5%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A_%D9%8A%D8%B9%D8%AF_%D8%A8%D8%A8%D8%AB_%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D9%88%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%87%D8%AF%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B8%D8%B1
الرئيسية
آخر تحديث: الاثنين 10 رجب 1434هـ – 20 مايو 2013م KSA 19:26 – GMT 16:26
وزير إيراني يعد ببث صوت وصورة “المهدي المنتظر”
باستخدام طبقات الغلاف الجوي لنقل المعلومات الصوتية والتصويرية
June 3rd, 2013, 7:54 am
zoo said:
UK backs off and put conditions on the eventual arms delivery to the rebels: They must participate to the conference.
Hague says Britain will not make decision to send arms to Syrian rebels until after peace talks
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/hague-says-britain-will-not-make-decision-to-send-arms-to-syrian-rebels-until-after-peace-talks-8642291.html
“A decision on whether to deliver lethal weapons will depend on how those negotiations go and other countries’ attitudes,” he was quoted as saying.
June 3rd, 2013, 8:07 am
dawoud said:
The forces of the Syrian murderous dictator and its allied Shia Lebanese terrorist party have FAILED to conquer al-Qasir!!!!! Latest Shia Lebanese terrorists killed in al-Qasir are 35 terrorists
http://www.almustaqbal.com/storiesv4.aspx?Storyid=573658
ثوار القصير يصدّون الهجمات ويوقعون 35 قتيلاً لـ”حزب الله”
(ا ف ب، رويترز، ا ش ا، العربية، “المستقبل”)
صدّ مقاتلو الجيش السوري الحر أمس هجمات شرسة لمقاتلي بشار الأسد و”حزب الله” على مدينة القصير، حيث أسقطوا 35 من مقاتلي الحزب، تزامناً مع هجوم للسيناتور الأميركي جون ماكين على الرئيس الأميركي باراك أوباما بسبب الوقوف موقف المتفرج على “المجزرة في سوريا، حيث يتدفق مقاتلو “حزب الله” ومتطرفون من شيعة العراق والسلاح الروسي والحرس الثوري الإيراني”.
[…]
June 3rd, 2013, 8:09 am
zoo said:
Democracy and justice Sharia style in Al Raqqa
“Anyone who might have a complaint against any element of the Islamic state, whether the Emir or an ordinary soldier, can come and submit their complaint in any headquarters building of the Islamic state,” the notice said as cited by The Telegraph newspaper. “The complaint should be in writing, provide details and give evidence.”
June 3rd, 2013, 8:17 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Lost in translation
Arabic man in the plane, ask the hostess
After your ear,Coffee if you forgive,tyrany
in Arabic
Ba2d Iznek Qahweh ,iza samhte, sada
This is how pro Assad talking today
June 3rd, 2013, 8:19 am
zoo said:
Erdogan can’t believe how Turks who, thanks to him got a per capita of 10,500 $ could be so ungrateful. Note the sudden appearance of the Ataturk photo in the background
Turkish intelligence looking into ‘foreign links’ to Taksim protests: PM
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-intelligence-looking-into-foreign-links-to-taksim-protests-pm-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=48097&NewsCatID=338
June 3rd, 2013, 8:22 am
zoo said:
In Russia-EU summit, Russia express veiled threats of delivery of “banned” weapons to Syria unless the EU forces the opposition to participate in the conference without any conditions instead of making promises to provide them with EU weapons
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/rows-over-syria-energy-cloud-russia-eu-t/695908.html
He called the EU decision to lift its arms embargo on the opposition “a direct signal that all (the rebels) need to do is wait a bit, and the arms will start flowing in”.
Russia’s Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu even went so far as to suggest that the move untied Moscow’s hands to supply arms to Assad, banned by international treaties.
“Every decision has two sides. If one side lifts its restrictions, then the other side may no longer feel compelled to keep its previously adopted obligations,” Shoigu said ahead of the talks.
Analysts believe Moscow and Brussels may try to smooth out their differences by issuing a statement of support for a proposed peace conference on the crisis that is meant to get Assad’s camp and the main opposition group involved in direct talks for the first time.
June 3rd, 2013, 8:32 am
Tara said:
The peasant and his circle of peasants should learn civility and how to handle protesters from Erdgan.
2 unconfirmed death as opposed to 100,000 killed, 1.5 million displaced, and humndred of thousands tortured.
June 3rd, 2013, 8:35 am
revenire said:
Turkish PM takes hard line as protests spread
ANKARA, Turkey (AP) – Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday angrily rejected Arab Spring comparisons as street protests in their fourth day spread deeper into Turkey.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/06/03/erdogan-maintains-hard-stance-on-protests/2383773/
June 3rd, 2013, 8:36 am
revenire said:
Brother Majed welcome back.
June 3rd, 2013, 8:37 am
zoo said:
Michael Rubin:”Erdoğan is arrogant, crude, and—at heart—an autocrat. He may believe himself invincible. ”
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/06/03/turkish-spring-update-erdogan-doubles-down/
Erdoğan has officially backed down from the mall project. So what to replace it? A mosque. Now that Erdoğan has banned alcohol sales within 100 meters of any mosque, it appears as if he is preparing to build mosques every 200 meters. His announcement is the equivalent of sticking up his middle finger at Istanbul’s secularists and liberals.
…
Erdoğan is arrogant, crude, and—at heart—an autocrat. He may believe himself invincible. If he is not careful and if he does not begin to respect the rule-of-law and recognize that he is accountable to the Turkish people, he might find himself going the way of Mubarak, Tunisian President Ben Ali, or Yemeni President Saleh.
June 3rd, 2013, 8:38 am
majoos said:
@dawood
why do you thing pointing to other islamic fools to lesser the malapropism of the takfiris?
The entire world despises takfiri/al-qaida terrorism!
@zoo
I wonder why Erdogan and his gestapo even bother to wonder which foreign intruders are behind the uprising?
It must ve been Assad, mybe in conjungtion with Armenians and the other usual scapegoats?
June 3rd, 2013, 8:41 am
zoo said:
,,,
June 3rd, 2013, 8:49 am
revenire said:
The offensive against Aleppo has started.
My reports show it starting this weekend – Hezbollah or not.
June 3rd, 2013, 8:51 am
revenire said:
The West will toss Erdogan into the trash as they did their puppet Mubarak.
June 3rd, 2013, 8:52 am
revenire said:
Russia, Syria discuss deadlines for MiG-29M/M2 fighter deliveries
Moscow and Damascus are discussing the deadlines and volumes of advanced fighter jet deliveries to Syria.
A source close to Russia’s arms exporters told reporters Monday a group of Syrian Defense Ministry’s officials had arrived in Moscow to take part in negotiations with Russia’s state-run arms export agency Rosoboronexport and aircraft-maker MiG.
Read more: http://english.ruvr.ru/news/2013_06_03/Russia-Syria-discuss-deadlines-for-MiG-29M-M2-fighter-deliveries-3756/
June 3rd, 2013, 8:56 am
Akbar Palace said:
Jewish toddler’s kidney saves Palestinian boy’s life
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4387501,00.html
(Ann: you may have missed this)
June 3rd, 2013, 9:06 am
revenire said:
Lebanon’s Hezbollah Kills Al-Nusra Front’s Militants near Baalbek
TEHRAN (FNA)- Dozens of al-Nusra Front’s terrorists were killed in overnight clashes with Hezbollah resistance movement in the vicinity of Lebanon’s Eastern town of Baalbek.
Al-Nusra terrorists were going to set up missile batteries near Lebanon-Syria borders when they entered into clashes with Hezbollah fighters, Lebanon’s security sources said.
One Hezbollah fighter was also killed and four others wounded in the clashes.
The clashes came after a barrage of rockets fired by armed militants in Syria at Hezbollah strongholds in Lebanon in recent days, Alalam news channel reported.
June 3rd, 2013, 9:17 am
majedkhaldoun said:
“In Iraq, they are called Qaramita and Mazdakiyya,,,,
while in Damascus they take the names of Nusayri, Druze and Tayamine. They are known as Baha’is in Palestine”
This book is not correct,full of misinformations,and has to be banned
June 3rd, 2013, 9:19 am
Tara said:
Zoo,
What is the “Islamic” drink of the Mullahs as opposed of the “Islamic” Ayran that Erdo drink?
Why do you want us to believe that you are mocking others’ tradition? Is this genuine you or the stubborn want-to-induce-a-reaction you? I thought you taught me to show respect to the self-inflicted injuries Ashura celebrators perform yearly.
Would Erdo get more respect from you if he drinks Whiskey?
June 3rd, 2013, 9:33 am
revenire said:
Erdogan is drinking an awfully bitter brew today! He needs to listen to the Turkish people and resign!!
Free Turkey!
June 3rd, 2013, 9:55 am
apple_mini said:
The “surprise” attack from rebels in Jobar yesterday ended up with all rebels getting eliminated. No surprise here. Taking Damascus is an impossible mission for the rebels. Any attempts such as couple dozens of rebels starting with suicide bomb will end as a suicidal mission.
20k well-armed rebels and sophisticated planning might make a difference. Although it almost likely will never happen. Even a direct military intervention by the west to take Damascus from the regime will remain very questionable.
One thing for sure, extremely high civilian casualties and extensive and horrific destruction to the city itself are going to be the result if matching sides decide to fight inside the city.
Right now, life in Damascus is normal and business as usual. If the regime can stand on its ground or a political solution can be reached, Damascus will be just fine.
Damascus will turn into an inferno if the rebels win this war.
June 3rd, 2013, 10:04 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
@48
Obviously incapable of reading the message.
I don’t give a damn what Erdoghan does. His people will hold him accountable. All i care is to hold the murdering athad and his loyalists and supporters accountable for their crimes against humanity.
So feign ignorance, or simply expose your ignorance and duplicity. On my side, I am very comfortable with every statement I made because unlike the lap-dogs of athad, I am consistent from the first second.
And before you go exploding with joy, show me where have i supported Erdoghan’s suppression or harsh tactic. Of course you will miserably fail, as usual, for I have shown far more respect to the demonstrators than you, or any of the buffoon’s fang-club, who are using them, their cause, and their grievances against their government to cover-up for the genocide in Syria being committed by athad and its hyenas.
When it comes to ethics, consistency, understanding of, and commitment to democracy and real secularism, any loyalist and propagandist of the buffoon athad can’t even dream of qualifying to dust off my shoe, even after I step on dog-poop in Muhjreen district. They can only keep dusting and licking the blood of innocents off the shoes of regime shabee7a and murderers. This is what they boast and this is what they deserve to do.
June 3rd, 2013, 10:07 am
apple_mini said:
One comment from the usual vulgar and malicious poster which calls Alawites peasants is as predicable as always. We already get the message: their kind of people are more sophisticated and refined. They are born to be genteel and it is in their blood.
Yet, they never feel shy or hesitated to use those brainwashed and backward extremists to rage “holy war” to drive out those “peasants” in the ruling class out of spite and revenge.
Unfortunately, in the west, unlike other culture and religions none of the Muslim sects has earned due respects. What is wrong? Should those genteel Muslims take the blame or those “peasants”?
June 3rd, 2013, 10:10 am
revenire said:
Syrian Hamster of course you support the dictator Erdogan. The home of many of the terrorists you support is in Erdogan’s Turkey.
June 3rd, 2013, 10:21 am
revenire said:
Tara who is a peasant?
June 3rd, 2013, 10:23 am
majedkhaldoun said:
There is a video showing the great and honorable general AbdulJabbar Oqidi in Qusair greeted by rebels there, he and thousands of rebels arrived to help defeat Hizbollah troops, and today it is announced as I mentioned that 34 hizbollah troops are dead.
Not only the rebels will defend Qusair, they are planning attacks on HA troops, and they will push them not only to the Syria Lebanon border, but far inside Lebanon, it will be a humilliating defeat for HA and their leader ,Iranian puppet Nasrallah.
General Abduljabbar Oqidi is emerging as the true leader of this revolution,God bless him and save and protect his life
June 3rd, 2013, 10:28 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Big mouth, prove it. Find the words that indicate support for Erdoghan’s supression of his people or for the supression of any other people. Otherwise keep your mouth shut.
June 3rd, 2013, 10:37 am
Ziad said:
MAJED #62
This joke is a dud (baikheh)
Question: does sada mean Tyranny in Arabic?
June 3rd, 2013, 10:46 am
Tara said:
Reve,
“Who is peasant?”
The arch-peasant is Batta and his circle that ordered the oppression AND I add anyone who called the pile of slaughtered children in Banias and Bayda “hardly a massacre”.
Please know that the term “peasant” is an indication of PROFOUND CONTEMPT I feel towards such beings, no offense to real peasants. It reflect a qualifier for inferiority complexed uncivilized beings exuding hatred and viciousness over perceived historical injustices and no it has no sect boundaries.
June 3rd, 2013, 10:52 am
Altair said:
I can’t think of a worse turn of events than having Hizbullah join the fighting in this ruinous civil war in Syria. The Zionists must be ecstatic now, as well as anyone else who seeks the destruction of Syria and any other Arab neighbor that can be brought down with it (Iraq already having been accomplished in that regard).
It does raise some questions though:
1. If the government forces are doing so well, why do they need Hizbullah’s help?
2. Why would Hizbullah feel compelled to help, and why now?
3. Will this contribute to a general Sunni-Shiite regional war? (I would add that I believe the Bush-led U.S. occupation of Iraq was the spark for the Sunni v. Shiite conflict and that Iraqis fell into a trap, as Syrians now appear to be duplicating).
As I’ve been saying all along, the worst thing that can happen in this conflict is sectarian warfare. No one wins, except outsiders who wish to see locals killing themselves. Has everyone lost their sense?
June 3rd, 2013, 11:06 am
Ghufran said:
Sounds familiar?
Erdogan is hinting that foreign powers might be behind the unrest in Turkey:
أنقرة- (يو بي اي): أعلن رئيس الحكومة التركية رجب طيّب أردوغان الإثنين أن استخبارات بلاده تحقق في إحتمال وقوف جهات خارجية وراء أحداث تقسيم، مجدداً اتهام حزب الشعب الجمهوري المعارض بلعب دور في الاحتجاجات.
ونقلت وسائل إعلام تركية عن أردوغان قوله في مؤتمر صحافي بمطار اسطنبول قبيل توجهه إلى المغرب في زيارة رسمية، إن “الجهات الاستخباراتية في تركيا تبحث في ما إذا كان وراء أحداث تقسيم أصابع خارجية”.
وأضاف أن ما يحدث لا يتعلق بقطع الأشجار و”إنما مؤامرة وما يحدث منظم من حزب الشعب الجمهوري ونؤكد التزامنا بحماية المتظاهرين السلميين”.
وقال إن “مجموعات متطرفة” هي التي نظمت أحداث تقسيم في اسطنبول وموضوع إزالة الأشجار ليس إلا “حجة لارتكاب أعمال تخريبية”.
وأضاف أن الشعب التركي سيرد على أحداث تقسيم في الانتخابات العامة التي ستجري بعد حوالي 10 أشهر.
ودعا الشعب الى الهدوء، وقال “كونوا هادئين، استريحوا، سيجري التغلب على كل هذا”.
وقال في إشارة إلى بعض الردود الدولية على استخدام القوة لقمع التظاهرات، إن” من يدعونا إلى ضبط النفس عليه أن يتحلى به أولا”.
وأضاف “الذين يدعون لسحب قوى الأمن هل يرغبون باقتحام المتطرفين لرئاسة الوزراء؟”.
وقال “هناك بعض القوى تحاول تحويل الربيع التركي إلى شتاء قارص”، في إشارة إلى النمو الاقتصادي الذي تشهده البلاد.
It is up to the Turks to decide who becomes a PM or a Sultan but it is not up to the Turks to decide how Syria is governed and by whom, it is evil to advocate a peaceful change at home while supporting armed rebels outside your borders.
June 3rd, 2013, 11:16 am
Ziad said:
TARA la bourgeoise se sent grand mépris envers les paysans.
June 3rd, 2013, 11:31 am
Ziad said:
Without Irony, the U.S. Rebukes Turkey for Cracking Down on Protesters
Unfortunately, as we’ve seen all too often during the past several years, particularly with regard to Occupy Wall Street, this freedom in America has been viewed as anything but absolute, and it could be rightfully argued that this right has been viewed as anything but crucial as well.
After all, this is a country with increasingly militarized police forces in which local cops are being armed with weapons suitable for the battlefield.
This is a country in which large gatherings of peaceful protesters, from Occupy Wall Street to Stop and Frisk marches, are increasingly being met with police responses that often look like this:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/01/1213118/-Without-Irony-the-U-S-Rebukes-Turkey-for-Cracking-Down-on-Protesters
June 3rd, 2013, 11:54 am
Ziad said:
America’s War and Syria’s Right to Defend itself against Foreign Aggression
Under international law, it’s a fundamental right. It’s inviolable. The UN Charter affirms it. Chapter VII, Article 51 states:
“Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security.”
“Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defense shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.”
America spurns international, constitutional and US statute laws. Do as we say, not as we do, is policy.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/americas-war-and-syrias-right-to-defend-itself-against-foreign-aggression/5337273
June 3rd, 2013, 12:02 pm
Ziad said:
Turkish police vandalizing, breaking in to store to gas protesters
June 3rd, 2013, 12:11 pm
Tara said:
Ziad,
Calling me Bourgeoise because I am Sunni is stereotyping.
June 3rd, 2013, 12:21 pm
Ziad said:
TARA
You have a strange logic. I am calling you bourgoise because you think you are in a higher class than others and you feel desdain towards peasants.
June 3rd, 2013, 12:26 pm
Ghufran said:
4.53pm BST
How democratic is Turkey? That’s the subject of a widely shared essay this morning by Steven A Cook and Michael Koplow, writing in Foreign Policy. Part of their answer: “Not as democratic as Washington thinks it is”:
Even as the AKP was winning elections at home and plaudits from abroad, an authoritarian turn was underway. In 2007, the party seized upon a plot in which elements of Turkey’s so-called deep state — military officers, intelligence operatives, and criminal underworld — sought to overthrow the government and used it to silence its critics. Since then, Turkey has become a country where journalists are routinely jailed on questionable grounds, the machinery of the state has been used against private business concerns because their owners disagree with the government, and freedom of expression in all its forms is under pressure.
Spokesmen and apologists for the AKP offer a variety of explanations for these deficiencies, from “it’s the law” and the “context is missing,” to “it’s purely fabricated.” These excuses falter under scrutiny and reveal the AKP’s simplistic view of democracy. They also look and sound much like the self-serving justifications that deposed Arab potentates once used to narrow the political field and institutionalize the power of their parties and families. Yet somehow, Washington’s foreign-policy elite saw Turkey as a “model” or the appropriate partner to forge a soft-landing in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and elsewhere.
( not to defend a democracy that does not exist in Syria but rather to challenge a simplistic black and white mentality that affects many when the subject is Turkey)
June 3rd, 2013, 12:35 pm
revenire said:
Brother Majed the army will catch the traitor al-Okaidi and deal him the justice all traitors deserve. He is nothing but a terrorist. His children will curse him. The history books will remember him as a Zionist.
June 3rd, 2013, 12:54 pm
Tara said:
Ziad,
If you mean that I view those who ordered Banias massacre and those who called it “hardly a massacre” to be an inferior class, then it is very true.
June 3rd, 2013, 12:57 pm
majoos said:
“Calling me Bourgeoise because I am Sunni is stereotyping.”
Since when is it a sterotype that Sunni are bourgeoise????
June 3rd, 2013, 1:15 pm
revenire said:
Tara likes to make claims of massacres as if to say she is morally superior to others. How can this be when she backs terrorism against the Syrian people?
I wonder what happened to Capt. Omen?
On another subject:
The New York Times notes that the Turkish protesters’ grievances, besides accusations that Erdogan has become a “dictator,” include Erdogan’s support for Syrian rebels against Assad.
Many Syrian flags and photos of President Assad were seen at demonstrations.
June 3rd, 2013, 1:23 pm
Ziad said:
TARA
We don’t know for certain what happened, but most reports indicate that the massacres in Banyas and Bayda were committed by Alawi elements. A criminal act indeed and the perpetrators should be punished. All I ask you, is to extend your subhuman classification to those who mortar indiscriminately civilian areas for example in Garamana, Sabeh Bahrat, Abasyeen and many other places, as well as to those who are killing civilian women and children by the hundreds in Iraq and Pakistan, then we could be in agreement for once.
June 3rd, 2013, 1:25 pm
Ziad said:
REV.
I hope marches by the 100 1000s in support of the Turkish Spring will start very soon in Syria and elsewhere.
June 3rd, 2013, 1:35 pm
Akbar Palace said:
When all else fails, resort to the usual epithet NewZ
The history books will remember him as a Zionist.
Reverse,
All regime hasbara aside, and just FYI, right now, Zionism is looking a “tad” better than Baathism.
Not to worry, I won’t tell anyone!
BTW, did you hit your 50th post today? You’re doing a great job, and you really should win an award of some kind.
The Batta and Asma Humanitarian & Freedom Medal?
June 3rd, 2013, 1:39 pm
Tara said:
Ziad,
Of course, I apply the same principal to indiscriminate shelling of ANY civilian community.
June 3rd, 2013, 1:43 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Ziad # 102
Fake marches will do nothing,it has been long since pro Assad fake marches has been seen, yet Jad, when you call Tara Burgeoise,it is because she support freedom and democracy, those who support dictatorship they do not deserve respect, they have evil minds,they are inferior
June 3rd, 2013, 1:44 pm
Ziad said:
MAJED
Look me in the eyes and don’t blick or smile then say:
When assad goes freedom and democracy will come to Syria.
June 3rd, 2013, 1:54 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
No Jad
this revolution will lead at the end to freedom and democracy,
why do I say that? it is necessary for this revolution to win to have UN force, to prevent revenge, and that means establishing democracy
June 3rd, 2013, 2:02 pm
Ziad said:
TARA
Great; I await your stern condemnation of the next indiscriminate killing of civilians commited by the party you support.
June 3rd, 2013, 2:04 pm
Ziad said:
#107
Is Jad back or are you dyslexic? My name Ziad.
BTW. I love Jad and miss him very much. I wish he would come back.
June 3rd, 2013, 2:13 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Look me in the eyes and don’t blick or smile then say:
When assad goes freedom and democracy will come to Syria.
Ziad,
Look me in the eyes, when you hold the same standard for Syria as you do the Zionist Entity™.
June 3rd, 2013, 2:26 pm
revenire said:
No matter what happens he will be sitting in the US cynically laughing about it. It is like a sport. It’s very depraved.
June 3rd, 2013, 2:30 pm
revenire said:
Who is Jad?
June 3rd, 2013, 2:34 pm
revenire said:
9:47 P.M. Thousands of protesters are barricading roads leading to Besiktas, most of them wearing gas masks. First casualties are being lead up the road from Beskitas to Taksim. (Anshel Pfeffer)
9:41 P.M. Hotels, restaurants around Taksim Square are prepared for a rough night, with piles of lemons and water bottles for tear gas victims. (Anshel Pfeffer)
9:30 P.M. Tear gas in Taksim Square appears to come from Besiktas district, where street fights are on again. (Anshel Pfeffer)
June 3rd, 2013, 2:59 pm
revenire said:
http://syrianperspective.blogspot.com/2013/06/first-post-june-3-2013-nato-70-of.html
JABHAT AL-NUSRA “COMMANDER” CONFESSES TO SYRIAN PRESS HIS FAILURES WHILE PRAISING THE SYRIAN ARMY AND HIZBOLLAH
(SANA) SyrPer translates the statements of the Jabhat Al-Nusra “Commander” in Al-Qusayr for its readers and invites Syrian media to use the translation for any purpose deemed useful for the cause of Syrian freedom and secularism:
“What you have said is true about the collapse of all the axes in rural Al-Qusayr whose trenches, tunnels, weapons, equipment and fighters we undertook to prepare for a period of two years. As for me, I am going to reconsider my culture, religion and the books I studied over a period of years. You are victorious over us, and in that, there is something absolutely unnatural. And that is something approaching madness……..I took part in some of the biggest and most complicated military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and inasmuch as I fought Qaddafi in Libya I never saw, in my life, men coming to the battle in Al-Qusayr with such confidence and fearlessness. But, they were superior to us even in death. And I’m not revealing any secret to you if I were to say that elements of Jabhat Al-Nusra fled from Al-Qusayr during the first attacks…..We lost control and sway over the battle when the men of Hizbollah entered. We used to hear about them, yet we ignored what was said. But the proof was in the pudding. (Literally: `But the reality was closer to the attestation.’)” (Trans. Ziad Amin Abu Fadel, Esq.)
NOTE: SyrPer will try to get the name of the J.N. “commander” who uttered these very telling words. ZAF
June 3rd, 2013, 3:03 pm
zoo said:
Tara
For a healthy generation, grandfather suggested drinking ayran: Erdoğan
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/for-a-healthy-generation-grandfather-suggested-me-to-drink-ayran-erdogan.aspx?pageID=238&nID=45768&NewsCatID=338
A day after vowing harsh action against alcohol and branding ayran as the national drink, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan justified again on April 27 his preference for the salty beverage made from yogurt and traditionally sipped with the country’s trademark kebab meals.
“Some people want to drink vodka or beer. May they help themselves and drink it, but we will accomplish the Article 58 in the Turkish Constitution,” he said, referring to a provision that engaged the state to protect the citizens from harm, including drug and alcohol abuse.
Erdogan: Drink yogurt, not alcohol
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4372876,00.html
Speaking at an alcohol policy conference, Turkey’s PM calls on countrymen to give up alcohol in favor of traditional yogurt drink – Ayren
June 3rd, 2013, 3:07 pm
revenire said:
Is Erdogan in some sort of religious cult?
June 3rd, 2013, 3:21 pm
zoo said:
Revenire
I have been wondering when the Turks will say to Erdogan: Enough is enough.
His insidious re-islamization of Turkey after decades of secularism is not creeping anymore, it’s bullying.
I am glad he is brutally brought back to the reality. More than a per capita of 10,000 US $ , the Turks want to be free to have the style of life they chose.
Erdogan has nothing to do to tell them what to drink, what to wear, what should be their religious beliefs and how to behave ‘morally’.
I have serious doubts he will ever have a long political career. These 12 years of relative economical success went up to his head. He believes that now he is allowed to dictate not only to his own people but also to neighboring countries his personal ‘moral’ precepts.
He should stick to the Turkish economy and the rehabilitation of the oppressed Kurds, the Alevis and the Armenians instead of preaching his narrow “moral” values.
June 3rd, 2013, 3:24 pm
revenire said:
Turkey’s “Bloody Friday” in photos:
http://imgur.com/gallery/q3XfOFf
Free Turkey! NATO out!! Hands off Syria!!!
June 3rd, 2013, 3:24 pm
revenire said:
I agree Zoo.
For me, the Turkey of Ataturk is Turkey. This puppet of the West, this dictator, has to go.
His fawning over the Zionists is sickening. Erdogan is allied with the worst sort of Irgun-like terrorists of Israel. He is certainly no Muslim.
I think he is in a cult. His ideas are strange.
Is it any wonder Turks hate him?
Assad is loved, Erdogan is hated.
June 3rd, 2013, 3:27 pm
revenire said:
The dictator must resign! Go Erdogan. Go to Tel Aviv!
10:03 P.M. More than 2,300 people have been wounded and one person killed during four days of fierce clashes between protesters and police in Turkey. 1,480 have been wounded in Istanbul, some 800 in the capital Ankara. (DPA)
9:54 P.M. A police helicopter hovering above using a spotlight is greeted by the protesters with thistles and obscene gestures. Firing of tear gas grenades sounds closer by the minute (Anshel Pfeffer)
June 3rd, 2013, 3:29 pm
zoo said:
Things are getting worse for Erdogan
Turkish public sector workers to go on strike: Union
The Confederation of Public Sector Trade Unions (KESK) has announced a decision to strike starting at noon tomorrow, in response to the government’s heavy-handed response to the Taksim Gezi Park protests in a move that could see hundreds of thousands of public servants walk off the job.
The strike, which was initially set to protest against the upcoming changes in the public sector workers’ law, was moved ahead to June 4 due to the ongoing Gezi Park protests, while KESK called for solidarity from all other unions.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-public-sector-workers-to-go-on-strike-union.aspx?pageID=238&nID=48147&NewsCatID=341
June 3rd, 2013, 3:30 pm
revenire said:
Dictator Erdogan fleeing Turkey?
PM Erdoğan Not in Turkey For 4 Days
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is leaving on a trip to Tunisia, Morocco and Algiers – countries that overthrew their leaders after massive rebellions. For the upcoming 4 days, PM is expected to hold talks on regional and international events.
http://www.bianet.org/english/politics/147188-pm-erdogan-not-in-turkey-for-4-days
June 3rd, 2013, 3:36 pm
zoo said:
Are the events in Turkey related to the recent breakup between the AKP and the Gulen movement that had a main role in shaping the AKP?
Turkey: Is Showdown Brewing Between Erdoğan Government and Gülen Movement? Among many disagreements, Fethullah Gulen is strongly opposed to Turkey’s involvement in Syria
January 7, 2013 – 1:52pm, by Dorian Jones
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/66364
Political analysts in Turkey suspect Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (right) may be in a political power struggle with a religious movement started by Islamic theologian Fetullah Gülen. Turkey’s intelligence agency MİT has been suspected of purging hundreds of Gülen supporters within the police, civil service and judiciary.
A tactical alliance in Turkey between Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and a movement headed by theologian Fetullah Gülen is unraveling. And the break-up is threatening to turn acrimonious.
More on the Gulen movement
http://www.gulenmovement.com
June 3rd, 2013, 3:52 pm
zoo said:
What is Islam’s Gulen movement?
By Edward Stourton BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13503361
Turkey’s Gulen movement, which promotes service to the common good, may have grown into the world’s biggest Muslim network. Is it the modern face of Islam, or are there more sinister undercurrents?
From Kenya to Kazakhstan, a new Islamic network is attracting millions of followers – and billions of dollars.
Inspired by a little-known Turkish imam, the Gulen movement is linked to more than 1,000 schools in 130 countries as well as think tanks, newspapers, TV and radio stations, universities – and even a bank.
This massive network is unlike anything else. It has no formal structure, no visible organisation and no official membership.
June 3rd, 2013, 3:58 pm
Ghufran said:
اعلن وزير الخارجية البريطاني وليام هيغ ان بلاده لن تبت في أمر تسليح المعارضة السورية الا بعد المحادثات المقترحة في جنيف
واشار هيغ لصحيفة “فرانكفورتر الجماينه تسايتونج” في مقابلة نشرت اليوم الى ان أن الوقت لم يتأخر لتسليح مسلحي المعارضة رغم المخاطر التي ينطوي عليها ذلك خاصة وانه لا تلوح في الافق نهاية للحرب في سوريا التي اندلعت منذ اكثر من عامين.
Two things: no weapons from the uk any time soon , also , the uk is encouraging rebels to derail Geneva talks so they can get weapons !!
Kerry , on the other hand, admitted that the US started peace efforts ” very late”, I am sure most of you know why.
June 3rd, 2013, 4:12 pm
zoo said:
More anxieties for Erdogan: more students free to protest .
Universities postpone finals amid Taksim protests
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/universities-postpone-finals-amid-taksim-protests.aspx?pageID=238&nID=48109&NewsCatID=341
Erdoğan, however, heavily condemned such announcements, naming Koç, Hacettepe and ODTÜ universities in a rant that accused administrations of allowing their students to participate in the protests.
Universities nationwide responded to the ongoing events, with hundreds of protesters staging demonstrations in cities like Erzurum, Eskişehir, Kırıkkale, Aydın and Gaziantep.
June 3rd, 2013, 4:21 pm
Tara said:
Zoo,
Given its health benefit, may I then invite you to drink “Ayren” on daily basis?
You know how much I care about your health,,
June 3rd, 2013, 4:28 pm
zoo said:
#125 Ghufran
You are right, the UK appears to indirectly encourage the opposition to derail the conference. Yet by accepting its participation without getting a iota of the pompously repeated conditions, the opposition would have lost face and will be extremely weakened in the negotiation process.
Once they’re there, they’ll be trapped as the UK will never provide weapons. It was an empty announcement with no practical usage aimed at preserving the EU unity.
June 3rd, 2013, 4:35 pm
zoo said:
#127 Tara
For people who suffer from anxiety over the unfolding events, I would recommend a glass of arak. For some, a sin maybe but certainly more beneficial than a salty drink.
June 3rd, 2013, 4:39 pm
revenire said:
SECOND POST – CONFIRMED!! ALEPPO NOW ENVELOPED BY SYRIAN ARMY SPECIAL FORCES, MILITIA AND HIZBOLLAH. PREPARE FOR THE CLEANSING OF THIS GREAT CITY; SYRPER DEMANDS THE CAPTURE AND _________* OF TRAITOR ‘ABDUL-JABBAR AL-UKAYDI
This just in from Aleppo: Over 18,000 new reinforcements have arrived north of Aleppo City who are preparing to storm the northern quarters. Of these forces, a full armored division, 6 SF groups, 6 brigades of militia and 2,400 Hizbollah fighters are in position for the offensive. Already, we are seeing MiG and Sukhoi bombers hitting areas in Hanano where ____* are concentrated. This is it!! Geneva-2 is meaningless.
We will start detailed coverage tomorrow as more Intel comes in. Go Syrian Army! Go, Hizbollah! Go, People’s Militias!! ____* them all!!!
*you know why
June 3rd, 2013, 4:42 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
The united states has only three to four months window to declare no fly zone,as S300 missles will be available to Syria after that, once they are available, US will need F22 aircraft,rather than F35 aircraft, F22 has more advanced stealth capability,, and they are manned aircraft which is needed to continuously target tracking as S300 are highly mobile, more F22 will be available in 2015
June 3rd, 2013, 4:43 pm
zoo said:
#131 Majed
Too little, too late.
Your predictions are all falling apart…
Maybe you need to have a “ayran”..
June 3rd, 2013, 4:56 pm
revenire said:
Brother Majed there won’t be a no-fly zone. You are not a military man. There is no hope for your cause.
I agree with Zoo – forget all this “armchair general” nonsense and have a cold beverage.
The army has things under control.
I will never forget the day you told Zoo “you know who I am” lol
We don’t know who you are but as a person I wish you well and good health. I am sorry you are not allowed in Syria but this was a choice no?
Take care brother.
June 3rd, 2013, 4:59 pm
zoo said:
Another huge crack in the so-called opposition coalition amid accusations of corruption.
Key bloc quits Syria opposition, slams leaders
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/73057/World/Region/Key-bloc-quits-Syria-opposition,-slams-leaders.aspx
The Syrian Revolution General Commission, a key bloc within the Syrian National Coalition, withdraws from the body citing misuse of funds and advancing personal interests
AFP , Monday 3 Jun 2013
A key bloc within Syria’s main opposition National Coalition announced its withdrawal from the body on Monday, accusing some leaders of misusing funds and being motivated by personal ambition.
The Syrian Revolution General Commission said in a statement: “We are withdrawing from the Coalition… because it is taking initiatives far removed from the true revolution and cannot represent the revolution in an authentic way.”
A member of the National Coalition since its creation, the SRGC is one of the longest-established organisations on the ground backing the rebellion against President Bashar al-Assad.
It comprises a network of activists across Syria that is linked to armed rebels fighting Assad’s forces.
“Coalition members are more interested in appearing in the media than helping the revolution,” the SRGC statement read.
…
“A lot of money has been wasted because they used it for their own personal interests while the Syrian people inside the country lack everything.”
The SRGC went on to add that during the last meeting of the Coalition, which finished late Thursday in Istanbul, “the agreement that rebels on the ground would have one third of the seats was not respected when the membership was expanded.”
…
The SRGC accused “some countries of manipulating the revolution for their own ends and trampling the blood of our people”.
“Each of these countries puts their blocs up against the others, and these blocs act in line with agendas foreign to the revolution,” it said.
June 3rd, 2013, 5:03 pm
revenire said:
Perhaps Obama and the NATO generals are reading Brother Majed’s wise words and will move later today with the FSA AIR FORCE (led by the erstwhile Capt. Omen) and the Turks (who “love” Erdogan lol) to install a no-fly zone.
June 3rd, 2013, 5:04 pm
zoo said:
The “coalition” appears in its true nature: A bunch of ambitious, opportunistic and selfish expats attracted by Qatar and KSA’s money and who couldn’t care less about Syrians.
This is what USA, France, the UK, Italy and others have pompously called in one of these theatrical 5 star hotel meetings: “The sole representative of the Syrian people”
They are now covered with ridicule.
June 3rd, 2013, 5:09 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Zoo
You take care of yourself and stop this childish ideas
You apologized before and promissed not to do it again,to tell me to drink Ayran is mocking , you should stay polite,
June 3rd, 2013, 5:09 pm
zoo said:
#137 Majed
Erdogan that you admire so much drinks ayran on a daily basis, Tara has advised me to do that too, what not you?
June 3rd, 2013, 5:15 pm
zoo said:
#135 Revenire
They mean “no-flies” zone.
Turkey has a huge stock of gaz and pepper spray and Al Qaeda has sarin. I am not sure if they are as efficient on flies as they are on people.
They can always try.
June 3rd, 2013, 5:20 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Zoo
What I drink and not drink is non of your buiseness
June 3rd, 2013, 5:21 pm
Tara said:
Zoo and Majed,
Pleading innocence. Wallahi I was sincere. No mocking intended.
If you can find a non-salty version, yogurt drink daily decreases one’s risk of obesity.
June 3rd, 2013, 5:22 pm
zoo said:
The Saudi royal family arrogance breaks the limit of decency
Saudi prince forks out 15 mn euros at Paris Disneyland
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/73036/World/Region/Saudi-prince-forks-out–mn-euros-at-Paris-Disneyla.aspx
Saudi Prince Fahd al-Saud spends $19.5 million for three days of fun at Disneyland near Paris to celebrate his degree.
June 3rd, 2013, 5:24 pm
majoos said:
@reveniere
Erdogan is indeed a member of a cult, and that s known in the Turkish public. As Barzani he is a member of the Naqshbandi Order.
June 3rd, 2013, 5:31 pm
revenire said:
Brother Majed join me in a lemonade – a non-sectarian summer beverage.
Let’s drink to the heroes of the Syrian Arab Army.
June 3rd, 2013, 5:38 pm
revenire said:
Ha ha @ “no-flies zone” – drinking Aryan can help?
June 3rd, 2013, 5:40 pm
revenire said:
What’s wrong with a nice cup of aryan?
“More journalists were jailed in Turkey than in any other country in the world in 2012”
L’chaim!
June 3rd, 2013, 5:43 pm
Tara said:
Reve and company,
Funny!
May I suggest Bloody Mary? For more representation..
June 3rd, 2013, 5:45 pm
revenire said:
Tara heh heh. I’d love to have a drink with you but perhaps after the war has settled down.
June 3rd, 2013, 5:58 pm
revenire said:
Taksim Dayanışması, a solidarity group dedicated to advocate for Taksim Gezi Park, made a press statement at 7 pm local time tonight and announced its immediate demands.
The statement was read by Tayfun Kahraman, chairperson of Chamber of City Planners Istanbul Branch. He listed the group’s demands as follows:
* Gezi Park, will remain as a park. We will not allow neither Topçu Barracks project, nor anything else that would violate the nature and our living areas.
* All officials – including Istanbul governor Police Commissioner – who prevented people from using their democratic rights, who gave oppression orders, who executed these orders, who caused several injuries must resign immediately. Use of tear gas bombs must be banned.
* Our friends who were detained all across Turkey to join the resistance must be released immediately and all charges must be dropped.
* All public demonstration bans especially in Taksim Square but also throughout Turkey must end. (NV/AS/BM)
http://www.bianet.org/english/crisis/147196-taksim-solidarity-announces-its-demands
June 3rd, 2013, 6:01 pm
Dawoud said:
In order to NOT to offend Mathew Barber, I am not embedding any videos despite the fact that the pro-regime folks are still doing so. Also, I am not interested in embedding videos of disturbing violent/bloody images. However, I am providing below the link to the “al-Qasir Media Center” YouTube channel المركز الإعلامي بالقصير
It has several videos that are only a few hours old. They prove that the regime and its invading terrorist Lebanese ally have NOT won the battle, and are NOT close to doing so. It shows disabled tanks and Hizb Jeeps. Anybody who doubts this should watch these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/qmediacenter
June 3rd, 2013, 6:11 pm
Ziad said:
Israel’s a rogue terror state. It’s history is blood-drenched & a global menace
http://bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article22707
June 3rd, 2013, 6:20 pm
revenire said:
If you read Israel’s history it is one of blood and murder. They’re been the ones attacking Arabs and provoking wars to grab land for decades. It is sickening.
I remember watching “Dirty” Rafi Eitan as he shared a cup of coffee with Begin back in my Jerusalem days. The two of them were bloodthirty!
June 3rd, 2013, 6:42 pm
revenire said:
Is Erdogan losing his mind?
Defiant Erdogan denounces riots in Turkish cities
Reuters – 56 minutes ago
By Birsen Altayli and Ayla Jean Yackley. ISTANBUL | Mon Jun 3, 2013 5:48pm EDT. ISTANBUL (Reuters) – Anti-government protesters responsible for Turkey’s worst riots in years are “arm-in-arm with terrorism”, Prime Minister Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan …
June 3rd, 2013, 6:47 pm
revenire said:
Dave I know the origin of those videos. I know first hand – not by some YouTube video – no reinforcements made it into Qusayr. All attempts have been met with SAA firepower and those attempting it were sent to Hell.
Please stop believing every silly propaganda video you are fed.
Thank you brother.
June 3rd, 2013, 6:48 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Dawoud
Today close to 40 soldier from HA were killed, It seems they are not winning, or perhaps losing , the fight is in Jousieh, 6 KM to the south
June 3rd, 2013, 6:56 pm
revenire said:
I first read the good news on Dr. Fadel’s blog and now other media is picking up on it:
Hezbollah Is Launching An Offensive That Will Profoundly Change The Syrian War
Thousands of Lebanese Hezbollah militants are amassing around the northern Syrian city of Aleppo in preparation for an assault on the city, Loveday Morris of The Washington Post reports.
The deployment demonstrates the group’s complete commitment to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and may profoundly affect the 26-month conflict.
“The Aleppo battle has started on a very small scale; we’ve only just entered the game,” a senior Hezbollah commander told The Post.
“We are going to go after strongholds where they think they are safe. They are going to fall like dominoes.”
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/hezbollah-is-preparing-to-attack-aleppo-2013-6#ixzz2VCFaVOF3
God be with the heroes of Hezbollah – allies of the last Arab army standing – the SAA!
June 3rd, 2013, 6:56 pm
Dawoud said:
155. MAJEDKHALDOUN
Their leader had sent them to invade somebody’s else’s land and terrorize its people. Shame on him and his Iranian masters!
June 3rd, 2013, 7:03 pm
revenire said:
Syria and Lebanon are one!
June 3rd, 2013, 7:11 pm
Tara said:
Reve@148
That was not an invitation.
June 3rd, 2013, 7:14 pm
Tara said:
Kerry Says U.S. Came ‘Late’ to Syria Peace Effort
Published: June 3, 2013
WASHINGTON — The United States came “late” to efforts to find a political settlement to the war in Syria, Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday, as the crisis there deepened with political uncertainty in neighboring Turkey.
..
“We are trying to prevent the sectarian violence from dragging Syria down into a complete and total implosion where it has broken up into enclaves, and the institutions of the state have been destroyed, with God knows how many additional refugees and how many innocent people killed,” Mr. Kerry said.
…
Although Mr. Kerry’s remarks raised the specter of a collapsing state, he laid the blame entirely on Mr. Assad. “With respect to the Turks and the process for Syria, let me just begin by saying that what is happening in Syria is happening because one man, who has been in power with his family for, you know, years now, more than 40 years, will not consent to an appropriate process by which the people of Syria can protect minorities, be inclusive and have the people of Syria decide their future.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/world/middleeast/kerry-syria.html?_r=0
June 3rd, 2013, 7:15 pm
revenire said:
Tara it sure sounded like one to me. I do apologize if I seem eager.
June 3rd, 2013, 7:16 pm
Ziad said:
The reasons behind the Turkish people’s uprising against dictator Erdogan explained calmly and rationaly by a citizen of Turkey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&client=mv-google&gl=US&feature=player_embedded&v=aEapNRakzDI&nomobile=1
June 3rd, 2013, 7:24 pm
Ziad said:
Erdogan outlaws couples holding hands in public but….fornicating with US/UK/France/Al Qaeda in a frenzy of sectarian murder in Syria is ok.
Erdogan bans public displays of affection but kissing and making up with Israel is fine.
Erdogan bans kissing in public but belly dancing for NATO and the US and Israel is halal.
George Galloway
June 3rd, 2013, 7:42 pm
revenire said:
Galloway is dead on the money there. This bloodthirsty dictator Erdogan needs to go. He will pay for his crimes someday. God will judge him.
June 3rd, 2013, 7:55 pm
revenire said:
CONFIRMED by TV & Antakya MP Hasan Akgöl: @abdocan91 has been killed. Wounds on head caused by police firearm via @AnonOpsLegion #occupygezi
June 3rd, 2013, 7:57 pm
revenire said:
Turkey protests: Union to start two-day strike
Public sector workers in Turkey are set to start a two-day strike to support the continuing anti-government protests.
The left-wing Kesk trade union confederation, representing some 240,000 workers, accused the government of committing “state terror”.
Protests and clashes with police continued into the night on Monday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22762391
June 3rd, 2013, 8:03 pm
Ziad said:
Besieged civilians in Syria
From Ali:”Concerning your post on besieged civilians in Qusayr,
Western and arabic media never reported about the two shiite towns near A’zaz (with a combined population count of 30000 inhabitants similar to Qusayr) who have been under siege for close to a year now (as of july 2012) by the Free Syrian Army, with all the regular artillery shelling, incursions and kidnappings…
Those civilians can apparently survive sieges without UN intervention and Red Cross aid”.
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-sunni-rebels-besiege-shiite-villages-193533327.html
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil
June 3rd, 2013, 8:18 pm
Observer said:
What brought a TOZ to MARHABA
Thouria Alathad criticizing Turkey? Erdogan won three landslide elections. If he fails to deliver he will be ousted at the polls.
Demonstrators have been met with a lot of tear gas and then they were withdrawn. Gul said that it is a healthy aspect of democracy for people to protest.
So how come you have blood on your hands and egg on your face and shame on your forehead and hate on your features and you come critiquing your better?
Inferiority complexed retarded fake modernity inspired mafia thugs ruling a farm.
We needed a pundit about Sykes Picot.
I have been posting about its death for years.
Death to Sykes Picot and long live every sect and every clan and every family and every ethnicity in their wide and far diversity in independence and freedom and free from being forced to live together by force for eternal warfare and instability.
Long live Marnoistan and Alawistan and Kurdistan and Turkmenistan and Sunnistan and Druzistan and whatever stan you want.
Please have your state and live your illusions and delusions and your dreams and aspirations and your superior inferiority complex and your victimhood complex and your ” we are better” and get out of our hair.
Justice for Hamza
June 3rd, 2013, 9:00 pm
Akbar Palace said:
If you read Israel’s history it is one of blood and murder.
Reverse,
Really? Tell us about Syria’s history. We’re seeing a LOT more blood and murder under Assad family rule.
Tell us about Lebanon’s history.
Tell us about Iraq’s history.
Tell us about Algeria’s history.
And Turkey’s history.
You should be a little bit more opened-minded. We ARE on a Syria-focused website…
Anyway, if you want Israel to be more cooperative, I suggest despots like Ahmadinejad and Nus-lira stop threatening her. You attack Israel, expect to get hurt. That is why Israel is still hangin’ around.
Anyway, congrats on your Syrian “Hasbara” Show, you’re just a few posts away from 50 today!
Best,
AP
June 3rd, 2013, 9:08 pm
Tara said:
Observer
“Please have your state and live your illusions and delusions and your dreams and aspirations and your superior inferiority complex and your victimhood complex and your ” we are better” and get out of our hair.”
Outstanding! And I second that. I gave up. Diversity killed us. Get out of our hair.
June 3rd, 2013, 9:10 pm
Ilya said:
Observer
Turkmenistan is a country in central Asia,former part of USSR, want to create second Turkmenistan?
BTW people Adolf Hitler also was democratically elected,its not like democratically elected leader can not become an authoritarian one and rule with the iron fist as long as majority approve.
so if he wins with 51% majority then its ok to oppress 49% minority?
June 3rd, 2013, 9:17 pm
zoo said:
Angry Erdogan unveils his Islamist agenda in opposition to secular Ataturk. No wonder he doesn’t like Bashar Al Assad
Will Erdoganb learn?
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/will-erdogan-learn.aspx?pageID=449&nID=48128&NewsCatID=416
“Whatever the religion concerned is, if it dictates what is true, are you going to oppose it? If legislation introduced by two drunks is respectable, why do you feel a law dictated by religion should be rejected?”
Whatever he may have meant here, one of the drunks mentioned by him was taken by many as a reference to Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the founder of the secular republic. Many sins of commission and omission have been committed against people of faith in the past by successive Kemalist governments, of course.
A very large element of the Turkish population nevertheless remains committed to the memory of Ataturk and is touchy about the manner in which his name is evoked, directly or indirectly. It was inevitable therefore that something should break due to Erdoğan’s agitating remarks, especially when such remarks are combined with increasing interference in secular lifestyles.
June 3rd, 2013, 9:17 pm
Ziad said:
US Hegemonic Empire and Culture of Death: State Terrorism on a Global Scale
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2013/06/01/us-hegemonic-empire-and-culture-of-death-state-terrorism-on-a-global-scale/
June 3rd, 2013, 9:22 pm
Ziad said:
It sounds a bit odd, to put it mildly, for the US and Israel to be warning of the “Iranian threat” when they and they alone are issuing threats to launch an attack, threats that are immediate and credible, and in serious violation of international law; and are preparing very openly for such an attack.
Noam Chomsky
June 3rd, 2013, 9:32 pm
zoo said:
“Erdogan had directed the police crackdown”
Nationwide strike call in Turkey likely to inflame anti-Erdogan protests
http://www.thestate.com/2013/06/03/2800428/nationwide-strike-call-in-turkey.html#storylink=cpy
A columnist for the newspaper Taraf, well-known for his ties to the Turkish police, said Erdogan himself had been directing the police crackdown, raising the question of how he would carry on doing this from abroad.
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The strike also could create the same kind of symbolism that turned Cairo’s Tahrir Square into a center of protest in Egypt.
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The trade unionists likely will use the day to avenge Erdogan’s most recent assault on their movement, the banning on May 1, the traditional Labor Day celebration in Europe, of any march or demonstration.
June 3rd, 2013, 9:34 pm
Ziad said:
Children beaten and blindfolded by Israeli troops
In February, the number of Palestinian children between 12 and 15 years who were detained by Israel rose from 31 to 39. Almost 60 percent of the 236 Palestinian child detainees of all ages have been unlawfully transferred to prisons inside Israel. Children were arrested and detained during the recent protests in support of Palestinian prisoners on hunger strike.
These facts have been made public by Defence for Children International – Palestine Section (DCI-PS). The organization’s 2013 case summaries make for chilling reading.
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/adri-nieuwhof/children-beaten-and-blindfolded-israeli-troops?utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer%253A%2520%2540RCIRacism%2520on%2520twitter&buffer_share=a6c93&utm_content=buffer70c66
June 3rd, 2013, 9:40 pm
zoo said:
Study uses ‘martyr’ posts to break down ‘foreign fighters’ aiding Syrian rebels
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/03/18728823-study-uses-martyr-posts-to-break-down-foreign-fighters-aiding-syrian-rebels
“The dominant nationalities among the Sunni fighters in our data sample are Libyans, Saudis, and Tunisians,” said Evan Kohlmann, a senior Flashpoint partner and NBC News terrorism consultant, who co-wrote the report. “While Libyans and Saudis played an outsized role in Iraq as well, the newfound flood of Tunisians to Syria may be an unintended negative consequence of the Arab Spring.”
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“A wide variety of international terrorist organizations have become deeply involved in Syria,” Kohlmann said. “In fact, based on our data, Sunni foreign fighters in Syria include former Hamas militants from Gaza, relatives of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (the late leader of al Qaeda in Iraq) and leaders of Fatah al-Islam (a Lebanon-based radical Sunni group).
“What should be particularly worrying for Western governments is the fact that at least a third of the fighters in our sample were affiliated with the most extreme rebel faction, al Qaeda’s Jabhat al-Nusra — and that at least seven of the 280 dead fighters we analyzed were from Western countries, including France, Denmark, Australia, the U.K., and the United States.”
June 3rd, 2013, 9:41 pm
zoo said:
Borsa Istanbul falls sharply following anti-government protests: “an air of panic”
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/borsa-istanbul-falls-sharply-following-anti-government-protests-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=48092&NewsCatID=346
…falling 10.47 percent in the evening. The index thus completed its Monday sessions with a 9,006.35 point decrease, the worst fall since March 2003.
The Turkish Lira also weakened to 1.889 against the dollar, a decline from 1.87 on Friday and near a 16 month low against the dollar.
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Erdoğan’s remarks did not appear to calm down investors about the unrest in Turkey.
Stock sales continued during the second session, experiencing the worst fall during the Erdoğan government.
Sharpest fall in tourism index
The sharpest fall was mainly visible in the tourism index, at more than 13 percent. It was followed by the banking index, which fell by around 9 percent.
There appeared to be panic in the air causing irrational pricing. Local and foreign investors, who are unwilling to take any risks, have tended to sell their stocks now, according to analysts.
June 3rd, 2013, 9:45 pm
zoo said:
I am really concerned by the safety of the SNC members who are staying in Istanbul ( Hitto, Sabra, Al Khatib, Atasi..). I hope that Qatar has invited them to take refuge in the Coalition Syrian ‘ambassador’ villa in Doha.
June 3rd, 2013, 9:51 pm
GEORGES said:
After further examination and reflection prompted by the Yaqubi interview I think I have to backtrack on what I have said about Islam in previous posts.
It is easy to get confused with everyone claiming to represent Islam. I apologize if my previous comments offended anyone.
June 3rd, 2013, 9:55 pm
Ziad said:
I read Kilo already fled
June 3rd, 2013, 9:56 pm
Ziad said:
Georges
What did you conclude after reading Yacoubi’s interview?
June 3rd, 2013, 10:00 pm
zoo said:
“Hezbollah doesn’t gamble; it makes calculated decisions.”
For Hezbollah, risks in backing Syria’s Assad
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/for-hezbollah-risks-in-backing-syrias-assad/2013/06/03/0c25202a-cc79-11e2-8f6b-67f40e176f03_story.html
The group’s loyal followers appear enthusiastic about the new battle, with supporters talking of waiting lists to sign up to fight alongside Assad’s forces.
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For Hezbollah’s reputation to emerge intact, military gains are paramount, particularly in Qusair.
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The mission in Syria is likely to be lengthy. Rebels and a senior Hezbollah commander said over the weekend that thousands of fighters are deep inside the country, near the northern city of Aleppo.
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“They’ll make sure they win it . . . even if it costs them 1,000 men,” said Mohammad Obaid, an analyst with close ties to Hezbollah. “If they lose, it will be extremely damaging.”
“Hezbollah has made the calculation it will be there for a long time . . . maybe a year,” said a commander in the movement,
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“Hezbollah doesn’t gamble; it makes calculated decisions. And it can’t accept the fall of Assad.”
June 3rd, 2013, 10:03 pm
GEORGES said:
ZIAD
That I was mistaken to think that Al-Qaeda and similar groups are nearest to Islam than less ‘extreme’ muslims.
In reality I don’t have a clue and I shouldn’t have said this and it’s not to me to decide such things.
June 3rd, 2013, 10:06 pm
GEORGES said:
June 3rd, 2013, 10:08 pm
zoo said:
Hezbollah’s Role in the Bloody Syrian War Comes at a Price
(video) PBS Margaret Warner with the Hezbollah
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/jan-june13/lebanon_06-03.html
June 3rd, 2013, 10:09 pm
Ilya said:
Yikes these people in Washington have no clue about geography, by breaking down rebels by country
Russia 7
Chechnya 5
Kabardino-Balkaria 1
2 republic below are part of Russian federation not independent countries 🙂
June 3rd, 2013, 10:51 pm
zoo said:
Lebanon is facing the Islamist threat and atrocities.
Scarlett HADDAD | 04/06/2013 ( translation)
http://www.lorientlejour.com/article/817598/le-liban-face-a-la-menace-islamiste.html
Every day that passes shows more closely the overlap between the Lebanese and Syrian issues. If the Secretary General of Hezbollah openly acknowledged the participation of its supporters in the fighting in the region Qousseir alongside regime forces in Syria, to prevent the spread of al-Takfirist Front Nosra and their allies to Lebanon, the Lebanese-Syrian jihadist cells are now at the same time to appear openly in the north to Sidon, Beirut and in the Bekaa Valley.
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In addition, it is becoming increasingly clear that the Lebanese jihadists are fighting alongside the Syrian rebels in the region Qousseir. So a few days ago, the Lebanese Sunni from Baalbeck Hussein Dergham, died in Dabaa and was buried in a Sunni city cemetery, his remains were returned to Lebanon.
But now, the al-Front Nosra shows openly in Lebanon. There are a couple of weeks, Friday, May 17, after the noon prayer, one hundred elements Front al-Nosra came out of the mosque in Wadi Khaled Hiché proclaiming slogans in favor of the head and waving his flag .
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There was even a more serious incident for the first time since the beginning of the Syrian conflict, the emergence of al-Front Nosra in Beirut a few days ago. The jihadists of this front were in the streets with their flags and weapons in the area between the Sports City and Tarik Jdide. They also clashed with Shiite people from this slum areas but the army quickly intervened to separate the belligerents.
It is now clear that jihad al-Nosra Front and allies are becoming increasingly present in Lebanon, whether Lebanese or Syrian. The aforementioned security source also said that these groups are directly funded by the Gulf and they pay high wages to their recruits up to 4 000 dollars per month. In addition to the monthly salary, the jihadists have many facilities, especially with the fatwas issued by some scholars in the same movement that allow the confiscation of property of the enemy, as spoils of war, and rape of women and their children .
In this regard, it should be noted that the General Security stopped there about ten days the members of a Syrian-Lebanese network of radical obedience preparing assassinations in Lebanon.
One member of this network, brought to justice with his companions, called Adnan told in detail, during his interrogation, the atrocities he commited.
According to the same security source, the so-called Adnan reportedly admitted having rallied to a Lebanese-Syrian cell whose head is installed Ersal.
The cell is active in the region between Ersal and Al Qouseyr
Among the highlights of Adnan and his group, the attack on the airport Dabaa before it falls into the hands of the army. According to his own confession, the cell would have killed 13 soldiers of the Syrian army three of whom were murdered. Similarly, Adnan was found to have entered the Turkmen district north of Qousseir where he wounded a man in the leg in front of her before raping her three girls aged 7, 8 and 10 years and then kill four people in revenge.
Adnan and his group had also planned, according to preliminary confession of killing Sunni sheikhs suspected of being close to Hezbollah, and implementing, without hesitation, the fatwa issued by the Qatari Sheikh Youssef Qaradawi …
The shooting yesterday against Sheikh Maher Hammoud in Sidon, who openly criticizes Sheikh Asir and calls not to fight the resistance may be viewed in this context. The investigation is ongoing. But even in Syria, the killing of Sunni sheikhs supporting the regime are beginning to multiply as the assassination of Ulema Bouti and others, in an obvious desire to terrorize the Sunni religious men and prevent to preach in favor of an agreement between Sunnis and Shiites.
However, what is new is that the extreme wave is being extended to Lebanon, or at least appear to be in broad daylight, while seeking to provoke incidents in several parts of the country. For now, they are identified and the Lebanese army still manages to have control of the situation. But takfirist threat now hangs over Lebanon. Some say it is the result of the involvement of Hezbollah alongside diet, others that it is the cause. But Hezbollah, fighting against the cells of al-Front Nosra to Qousseir, it would not only trying to protect the back of the resistance, but also all of Lebanon by preventing Takfirist cells to establish themselves. In any case, what its executives say the families who lost son in battle Qousseir.
June 3rd, 2013, 10:58 pm
Ziad said:
Algerian media and Syria
Fatima from Algeria, sent me this response regarding a post from yesterday about Algerian media and sympatnhy for Hizbullah: ” hi assad . i noticed one of your readers Ahmed was asking why Algerians were not sectarian , you can tell him because AL Saoud Media does not control algerian media and our clerics are independent from wahabi clerics and never ever insult , mock or say anything negative about Shias . ALL algerian clerics support the unity of ALL Muslims and that s why we are proud of them . best regards . ”
Angry Arab
June 3rd, 2013, 11:02 pm
Ghufran said:
If the mullahs and the Taliban can talk peace, Syrians can do that too:
A delegation of senior Afghan Taliban members have made an historic trip to Iran to meet with officials, putting aside enmity for a meeting likely to worry both Washington and Kabul.
The insurgents’ spokesman presented the visit, first announced by Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency, as a meeting of two governments, rather than rebels with a neighbour.
“They travelled to Tehran on the invitation of Iranian officials,” said spokesman Qari Yousef Ahmadi, adding that a group of Taliban clerics had also attended a religious conference on “Islamic Awakening”.
June 3rd, 2013, 11:28 pm
Sami said:
Speaking of Angry Arab here is an “interview” conducted by Asa’ad with himself as imagined by Karl reMarks:
http://www.karlremarks.com/2013/05/the-angry-arab-interviews-himself-about.html
June 3rd, 2013, 11:34 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Ziad,
Where do you think children are treated worse, Israel or Syria?
Is this one of those “look into my eyes” moments?
June 3rd, 2013, 11:50 pm
revenire said:
Written by a FSA soldier. This is a story of defeat of Syria’s enemies and victory for the SAA and Assad.
Situation in Ghouta
http://hamaecho.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/situation-in-ghouta/
June 3rd, 2013, 11:55 pm
Ghufran said:
While the Turkish leadership is talking tough on Syria, Turkish companies are selling disel fuel to Assad’s government:
أظهرت وثائق ومصادر في قطاع الشحن أن تركيا أصبحت مصدرا جديدا لتزويد الحكومة السورية بوقود الديزل الضروري وهو أمر كان بعيد الاحتمال.
وقامت شركة الوقود التركية الخاصة أفيس بتحميل سبع شحنات من الديزل منخفض الكبريت من مدينة مرسين الساحلية الواقعة على البحر المتوسط في نيسان/ ابريل متجهة إلى ميناء بانياس الخاضع لسيطرة الحكومة السورية.
وعلى رغم أن تركيا ليست ملزمة بتطبيق عقوبات الاتحاد الاوروبي على سوريا، قد تسبب هذه المعاملات التجارية حرجا لأنقرة إحدى أشد منتقدي دمشق.
ورفضت وزارة الخارجية التركية التعليق على هذه المسألة بشكل محدد لكنها كررت موقفها تجاه نظام الأسد.
وقال مسؤول بوزارة الخارجية “تم توضيح موقف تركيا بشأن وحشية النظام السوري ضد شعبه ولن يكون بوسع تركيا تجاهل أي دعم أو جهود إغاثة في هذا الوضع”.
وأكدت شركة أفيس المتخصصة في تجارة زيت دوار الشمس ووقود الديزل وفقا لموقعها على الانترنت إجراء هذه المعاملات التجارية لكنها رفضت الادلاء بمزيد من التعليق.
June 3rd, 2013, 11:57 pm
Dawoud said:
Bashar’s inevitable demise will usher in a new era in Lebanon free from the Shia party’s terrorism!
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/hezbollah-has-been-lured-into-unknown-territory-in-syria-as-it-wages-costly-battle-for-survival-8641311.html
Hezbollah has been lured into unknown territory in Syria as it wages costly battle for survival
“Hezbollah suspects Hamas has been teaching Sunni rebels in Syria how to fight”
So Obama thunders on. Hezbollah must leave Syria. That will have them shaking in their boots in the Bekaa valley. For Hezbollah – 22 dead in one day a week ago, according to an acquaintance who should know – has no intention of withdrawing from a battle which threatens its existence in Lebanon. Casualties? Well huge, it seems – and we will come to that later. But…?
Here’s a little story that may help to explain why the Shia Muslim Hezbollah, the most fearless and ruthless guerrilla army in the world, is in Syria. A major political mistake by its leader, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, no doubt. But not a major military one. For the Syrian war is in danger of flipping across into Lebanon; not in the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli, where its Sunni and Alawite (Shia) militias have long played out a symbolic struggle between each other. But in the dirt-poor town of Arsal, up in the hills beside the Syrian border scarcely 20 miles from the Hezbollah-held – and I mean “held” – Lebanese town of Hermel.
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June 4th, 2013, 12:42 am
Dawoud said:
It’s preferable for the Shia sectarian “intellectuals” to hide in their support for the Syrian dictator behind “Arab socialism,” “Nasirism,” “anti-Israeli ‘resistance’,” etc.! What else would they say?! Would they say that they support an evil dictator just because he is killing Sunnis?
June 4th, 2013, 12:54 am
Ghufran said:
This piece of news was also mentioned in western press, it is an example where business is business:
كشفت إحدى الصفحات الموالية للنظام على الـ «فيسبوك» عن تورط مسؤولين سوريين كبار في وزارة النفط السورية بالتعامل مع «جبهة النصرة» وتوقيع عقد شهري بقيمة 150 مليون ليرة لحماية معمل غاز الجبسة.
There are also suggestions that the Oil minister Abbas will be forced out and that a new government will be formed in the next few weeks.
June 4th, 2013, 1:39 am
zoo said:
“doubt on the widely repeated assertion that the government of President Bashar Assad is responsible for an overwhelming majority of the deaths there.”
Assad backers reportedly make up 43 percent of dead in Syria
By David Enders | McClatchy Foreign Staff
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/06/03/192881/assad-backers-reportedly-make.html#.Ua2_oqB_-CQ
BEIRUT — A new count of the dead in Syria by the group that’s considered the most authoritative tracker of violence there has concluded that more than 40 percent were government soldiers and pro-government militia members.
The new numbers from the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights provide a previously unseen view of the toll the civil war has taken on communities that have supported the government. They also cast doubt on the widely repeated assertion that the government of President Bashar Assad is responsible for an overwhelming majority of the deaths there.
According to the new statistics, which the Syrian Observatory passed to McClatchy by phone, at least 96,431 people have lost their lives in the more than two years of violence that’s wracked Syria.
Of those, Syrian soldiers and members of the government’s security forces account for 24,617, while members of pro-government militias make up 17,031. Taken together, those deaths account for 43.2 percent of the total recorded.
Civilian noncombatants are the next largest group of the dead – 35,479, or 36.8 percent of the total, according to the human rights group.
Deaths among anti-Assad fighters total 16,699, or 17.3 percent, according to the new numbers. Of those, 12,615 were Syrian civilians who’d picked up arms against the regime, 1,965 were rebel fighters who’d defected from the Syrian military and 2,119 were foreigners who were killed fighting on the Syrian rebels’ behalf.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/06/03/192881/assad-backers-reportedly-make.html#storylink=cpy
June 4th, 2013, 6:24 am
Tara said:
Red Dress Image
An image of a woman in a red dress being sprayed by a riot policeman has become an icon of the protests, according to Reuters.
“That photo encapsulates the essence of this protest,” says math student Esra at Besiktas, near the Bosphorus strait and one of the centres of this week’s protests. “The violence of the police against peaceful protesters, people just trying to protect themselves and what they value.”
Visual Culture Blog offers this commentary on the image:
The image vividly illustrates the popular uprising in Turkey: a young and vibrant youth movement suppressed by the state. The power of the image partially relates to three distinct elements within the frame. The first element in the very centre of the image depicts a policeman who is, backed by his colleagues in the background, spraying the chemical on the woman. The gas masks protects him, the dark colours of his clothing signifies the security apparatus of the state, while a row of helmet-clad colleagues secures the border into supposed lawlessness. The second element underlines the danger of the chemical and indeed this very confrontation as members of the press and onlookers seeks to escape from the spraying policemen.
Yet the most important element depicts the young woman in the red dress. Unlike the policemen, she is not protected by the usual apparel: she wears no goggles, no face mask, no helmet. Most remarkably however, her vulnerability in this tense context is further underlined by her body language: she simply just stands there as she is being sprayed with chemicals. Her arms or not raised, she does not cover her face. In a sense, her dress and body language make her look completely out of context. Her shoes, her necklace and the tote bag further signify a casualness that actually stands in complete contrast to the image as a whole. Her out-of-context appearance is finally emphasized by a small yet also distinct parameter of space around her.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/04/turkey-protests-trade-unions-strike-live#block-51adbe3ae4b00a6ab14f1e25
June 4th, 2013, 6:50 am
Dawoud said:
199. TARA
He picture, in the red dress, is shown here on SC’s current article. Disturbing, and the Turkish policeman is an idiot and should be suspended FOREVER! However, if she were in Syria-and I am so sorry to see it-you would not have had a dress as she would have been assaulted in the most vicious way and most likely killed/mutilated! The more the regime talks about Turkey the more it brings resentment against it.
al-Qasir is not the Lebanese Hizb’s and al-Assad’s “cake walk” despite their on going war crimes!
http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/4c8f2d00-e879-4830-93a9-46182a701c91
قتلى لحزب الله بريف دمشق والقصير
قصف بدمشق ومعارك عنيفة في المعضمية
تدور معارك عنيفة في مدينة معضمية الشام بريف دمشق منذ صباح اليوم بين كتائب الجيش الحر من جهة وقوات النظام مدعومة بمقاتلي حزب الله اللبناني من جهة أخرى مما أسفر عن سقوط سبعة قتلى من النظام وحزب الله وفق الهيئة العامة للثورة السورية. وبينما تعرضت أحياء بدمشق وحي الخالدية بمدينة حمص لقصف مكثف دخلت المعارك الشرسة للسيطرة على مدينة القصير وما حولها أسبوعها الثالث وسط نداءات لإجلاء المدنيين والجرحى.
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June 4th, 2013, 7:09 am
annie said:
The Day We Broke Fear
It was a clear blue day as I walked to the square where the protest was being held. I felt frightened and nervous having been warned not to do this sort of thing again, but I felt compelled to do something, anything. I couldn’t sit at home and pretend nothing was happening when I knew perfectly well that people were getting murdered in cold blood. It felt as if somebody was hitting me over the head with a hammer, telling me to get up and go, as if I would never be able to forgive myself if I didn’t seize that moment. As I got nearer and nearer I could hear the sounds of chants carried to me over the patches of silence in the square. One turn of the corner and I could see the flags, the familiar faces of friends, and my heart instantly felt at ease because I knew then that I wasn’t the only one.
In those early days I suffered from an intense feeling of isolation and loneliness. I used to seek out other Syrians so that we could talk about what was happening and about how we felt. Before that day the tone was always one of worry and fear – fear for our families, for ourselves, for lives which will be upturned. We were always worried of that “report” that might be written about us, that somebody would have our names on a file somewhere and then that would be it, that we would be out in the cold and exiled from our homes and loved ones. What a thing to tell a mother, that her son was marked as an agitator and troublemaker! And yet there was that hammer on the head again, that drive which pushed us on in spite of our nagging worries to speak up and keep speaking. Something was wrong and yet many people wanted to pretend as if nothing was happening. Then I went to that protest and everything changed. It was my second and up until that point I had still been undecided about what position to take. What was happening was clearly wrong, but I felt that change and reform could happen if we made clear how unhappy we were about the heavy handedness.
As we all stood together in front of the embassy the atmosphere was euphoric. I pumped my fist in the air and began to chant, no longer concerned if the embassy was filming us. I began to call for the overthrow of the regime! In the space of a few minutes a lifetime of inhibitions and taboos came crumbling down. There was no longer any fear. It might seem strange to bring this up today, but two years ago when this revolution started the word on everybody’s lips had been about the “fear barrier”. People marveled at the sensation of no longer being afraid to speak their mind, and we would exchange stories about our own individual moments. It was as if, by shattering this glass cage, we were becoming complete again, like fixing that tap which had always been dripping or changing a burnt out bulb after ignoring it for so long.
In those heady days we felt as if nothing was impossible and that we were going to change the world. I remember standing in the crowd on that sunny Saturday in Belgrave Square, wearing a bright blue t-shirt, jeans and trainers and singing with everybody at the top of my voice. Nothing felt more right in my whole life.
But then things changed. Videos of tens of thousands of people demonstrating against tyranny gave way to the images of deserted streets in derelict towns. Of tanks driving up main streets and planes bombing villages. The cynics who didn’t bat an eyelid for the thousands of innocents who were shot like dogs now nod their heads knowingly and speak of a revolution “hijacked”. They can go to hell. This revolution was not about an ideology or a religion, and it wasn’t about grand political scheming, it was about normal people who stopped what they were doing to stand up for what they believed in, and they did that even though they were afraid and, in many cases, would lose their lives. Injustice can only sustain itself through fear, and on that day we broke fear forever. This is what the revolution was about I don’t ever want to forget that.
http://www.maysaloon.org/2013/06/the-day-we-broke-fear.html
June 4th, 2013, 8:13 am
annie said:
Azmi Bishara: Advice on Remaining Principled in Difficult Times
[An edited translation from the Azmi Bishara Arabic facebook page]
Some preambles:
1) You place yourself on the same side as a brave people locked in a struggle against an unbridled, barbaric and unprecedented display of oppression.
2) This puts you in the same trench as a number of democratic and patriotic forces; but it also together with a number of other groups with which you have nothing in common. Not in terms of principles or cultural outlook or aims. Naturally, you often find yourself at odds with such groups.
3) Your position is one of support for the people’s rightful claims: you are not changing your stripes. Nor are you the sort of person to abandon his principles on any other issues.
The challenge: what do you do? Is it even possible to fight on all fronts? Do you remain silent and abandon a brave people to their fate?
Those people are responsible neither for the oppression which they suffer, nor the nature of those willing to come to their aid. They rebelled and have made unprecedented sacrifices, and you have no cause to cast them off; it would be morally wrong to do so. Do you change your positions on other issues to win over the other supporters of the people’s rebellion as allies?
The answer: you remain true to your principles. If you look closely enough, you will find legions who, like you, are taking the same, principled stance.
While being a great burden, an intellectual’s consistency and integrity are a source of pride, which are to be cherished. It may be the case that an intellectual’s position in such situations is complicated and requires explanation; that it evades being packaged as simple slogans which can brandied about like sectarian agitation and conspiracy theories and jingoism. Write in a complicated way, speak objectively, and the people who need to understand, will understand. Preserving your rational, ethical position in circumstances such as these is a patriotic duty. You owe it to future generations as well as to the past.
June 4th, 2013, 8:24 am
Syrian said:
In this secretly recorded video, the leader of Assad’s army in Aleppo Major khaddor standing in the middle between the governor of Aleppo Mr Akkad and the Ba’ath party head Mr Helal, proclaim that he is fighting under the flag of Hussein and he will raise it over Ming air port, among many other sectarian chants of the Shia supporters of the regime,
و ظهر في التسجيل الذي التقط سراً من داخل القاعة قائد العمليات العسكرية في حلب العميد محمد خضور، و محافظ حلب محمد وحيد عقاد، وامين فرع حزب البعث الحاكم هلال هلال.
وردد المجتمعون وهم من الطائفة الشيعية، ويقدر عددهم باكثر من ألف شخص، شعارات من قبيل “لبيك يا حسين”،ب
http://youtu.be/zAt7L9Lzl2c
June 4th, 2013, 9:04 am
Alan said:
Mr Joshua Landis ! does US see regime change in Turkey?
June 4th, 2013, 9:24 am
Akbar Palace said:
does US see regime change in Turkey
Alan,
I don’t think so. Turkey has free elections last I checked.
June 4th, 2013, 9:35 am
Ziad said:
AKBAR PALACE
We discussed that before. You really should find a different template to your arguments. The current template goes like this:
“You Arabs do bad things ergo Israel is not so bad”
This one is getting repetitive, stale and boring. Be more creative or I will send a complaint to your employer requesting your demotion to a mere hasbara apprentice. Wait a minute; may be that this is the only way to defend Israel’s crimes. Comparing bad with bad hoping to make it good. Well it does not.
I told you in Syria there is a civil war going on. In a civil war the two sites do ugly thing to each other. Let’s compare the Syrian to the American civil war. 750000 died out of a population of 30 million. In Syria 100000 died out of 23 millions. In fact what Assad is doing is not different from what Abe Lincoln did, fighting a vicious and dirty war to save his country. In the American civil war Britain intervened, but its intervention does not compare with the foreign interventions Syria is experiencing, thousands of salafist fighters from every country in the world, unlimited money and weapons, PsyOps, espionage and logistical support from US UK FR Turkey, KSA, Qatar and perhaps others. Without this support the revolution would have fizzled long time ago and the destruction would have been much less.
Now let’s turn to Israel. Here, an arrogant, supremacists, racist, and brutal occupier terrorizes, oppresses, dispossesses and limits every freedom of the original people of Palestine. This situation is only comparable to apartheid’s South Africa but many orders of magnitudes worse. Where else in the world do you have towns and roads reserved to one group of the population to the exclusion of all others? Where on Earth a whole population is put under siege in conditions resembling an open air prison? Where on Earth houses get demolished, wells destroyed, trees uprooted, and people forced to go through many check points? I could go on and on.
Now let me answer your question:
“Where do you think children are treated worse, Israel or Syria?”
There is an event Daraa in March 2011 where children painted graffiti and were treated very brutally by the Syrian securities. I am sure there other events, but I honestly have not heard or read any other case of children malteatment. I also know there are no children in Syrian prisons.
I still have two aunts living in Damascus. Their children are growing up as normal children like anywhere in the world. Of coarse the war is hurting Syrian children tremendously.
To know how the Israeli occupiers, both army and settlers, treat Palestinian children, the Internet is a rich source of information. Here are the first three hits from Google:
Detained: Testimonies from Palestinian children imprisoned by Israel
http://972mag.com/detained-testimonies-from-palestinian-children-imprisoned-by-israel/69526/
Former Israeli soldiers disclose routine mistreatment of Palestinian children
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/26/israeli-soldiers-mistreatment-palestinian-children
UNICEF: Israel Guilty of ‘Cruel and Inhuman’ Treatment of Palestinian Children
https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/03/06-2
This is only a small sample of what Palestinian children experience on daily basis.
Now I can look you in the eyes without blinking or giggling and say:
Syrian children are treated normally.
Palestiand children are treated brutally by the Israeli occupiers.
Shame on those who defend Israel’s evil doings and may Adonai bless the Avineris, Finkelsteins, and Chomskies of the world, and of coarse our very own SHAI.
June 4th, 2013, 10:22 am
revenire said:
The Israeli government is a pack of war-mongering racists. Their entire history is one of conquest. It is in all the history books of the region. Only a book written by a gangster like Meyer Lansky could cover up the truth.
Every Arab nation BUT Syria sold out and capitulated to the Zionists. Is it any wonder they want to destroy Assad and the Resistance?
June 4th, 2013, 10:30 am
Hanzala said:
God send us another Selim the Grim
June 4th, 2013, 10:45 am
majedkhaldoun said:
To say in Syria 100,000 died while in American civil war 700,000 died, is nonsense, since during american civil war ,nine of every ten wounded died, at that time there was no antibiotics, no blood volume treatment,or serum, and no anaesthesia,to say it clearly, 90% of wounded could have been saved
To say children are treated better in Syria, is another nonsense and falsifying the truth, there are numerous massacres of children in Syria, infact Assad regime is famous to be children killer, that is his specialty,
Ziad
Do you ignore or forget all those massacres against children,or do you have short memories, or what?
June 4th, 2013, 10:51 am
revenire said:
The only reason children are being murdered in Syria is because of the terrorists who attacked the country.
To suggest the SAA murders children is offensive and borders on lunacy. It is a lie.
June 4th, 2013, 11:04 am
Ziad said:
MAJED
Get serious. The field hospitals in Syria are fully equipped with the latest medical eqipment and drugs. In fact I dare say that the ratio of wounded dying in Syria is higher that that in the American civil war.
Children masacres committed by the Syrian government are in your imagination and in the lying MSM.
June 4th, 2013, 11:05 am
Hanzala said:
Majed, you shouldn’t speak to Shiites like they are human beings, speak to them like they are animals. They understand much better that way.
June 4th, 2013, 11:08 am
Tara said:
… One of the most recent and disturbing, was posted just yesterday. It shows a woman who allegedly raped, then shot by an Assad solider and left in the street as bait for rescuers, who were then killed by snipers as they tried to save her.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=foaQ5RdoY5Y&feature=player_embedded&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_embedded%26v%3DfoaQ5RdoY5Y
http://m.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/06/syria-war-crimes-go-bad-worse-even-more-awful/65858/
June 4th, 2013, 11:10 am
revenire said:
“In fact what Assad is doing is not different from what Abe Lincoln did, fighting a vicious and dirty war to save his country.”
I agree with this.
Britain was going to intervene even more openly but at the time the Czar – Alexander II – threatened to make war in all Europe if the British Empire intervened openly on the side of the slave-holders in the South.
Not much has changed in nearly 200 years.
Syria will crush these slave-holders today, with Russian help.
What else is a Takfiri but a slave? They will one day thank us.
June 4th, 2013, 11:13 am
Tara said:
Hanzala,
Wallahi what you say is Haram and it is no where in Quraan that one should generalize like that.
June 4th, 2013, 11:13 am
Ziad said:
عندما تولى مسيحي رئاسة الأوقاف الإسلامية في سوريا
http://ar.ado-world.org/6/18/article/746
June 4th, 2013, 11:13 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Ziad
You said
The field hospitals in Syria are fully equipped with the latest medical eqipment and drugs.
I hope you read your comment again and again and think of what you said, that proves my point not yours.
The equipments and medical supplies saved lives , this means that death would have been much much higher if these supplies were not available
I wonder if rationality is working or is it on vacation.
June 4th, 2013, 11:17 am
Hanzala said:
Tara, there is a reason why throughout Islamic history Shiites lived in caves, they knew these people were backstabbers from the get go and treated them accordingly. What is happening in Syria is not new, Shiites joined the Crusaders against the Muslims. They attacked the Ottomans over and over. They invited the Mongols to the Middle East. Shiites most recently have cleansed Baghdad of Sunnis, a city that was founded by an Sunni Abbasid Caliph.
This is what our beloved classical scholars Imam Maliki and Imam Hanafi had to say about them:
It is reported that often Imam Abu Hanifah used to repeat the following statement about the raafidi Shia; “Whoever doubts whether they are disbelievers has himself committed disbelief.”
Once when asked about the raafidi Shia, Imam Malik said; “Do not speak to them or narrate from them, for surely they are liars.” During one of Imam Malik’s classes, it was mentioned that the raafidi Shia curse the sahaba. Imam Malik recited the verse, “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves. So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them.” (48:29) He then said, “Whoever becomes enraged when the sahaba are mentioned is the one about whom the verse speaks.” (Tafseer al-Qurtubi)
June 4th, 2013, 11:21 am
Ziad said:
MAJED
I was cynical when I said
The field hospitals in Syria are fully equipped with the latest eqipment and drugs.
It is not a good sign that you have not noticed.
June 4th, 2013, 11:23 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Ziad
Then you must agree with my point,
Do you want us to list the massacres where children are killed by your shabbiha?
June 4th, 2013, 11:31 am
Ziad said:
House of Saud: built on sand
Until now Saudi Arabia has been an oasis of calm in a region in turmoil, but without significant reforms that may not last
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/02/saudi-arabia-editorial?CMP=twt_gu
June 4th, 2013, 11:35 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Hanzala
Turkish troops were in area around Vienna ,when Savawi attacked the Ottomen,that also caused distraction to the Ottomen, while Ottomen defeated the Savawi troops decisevly,Ottomen could have taken Vienna and get to Spain ,That was the idea then
The Savawi always stabbed the Sunni in the back.
Today we see that by HA attacking Muslems, they claim they want to revenge Hussein death, they are sick people and the truth always is clear they are persians not muslem
June 4th, 2013, 11:46 am
Citizen said:
New video Caucasian terrorists go after Syria to the Caucasus.
http://youtu.be/ZBfM1SOeY3E?t=1m53s
June 4th, 2013, 11:46 am
Sami said:
To compare Assad to Lincoln is beyond me, how a man that stood for the Emancipation Proclamation where slavery was abolished can be compared to a vicious dictator intent on destroying his country for his own illigitamite rule can only be called blind adoration for a mass murderer. One man freed slaves while the other one is trying to enslave us to the Assadists mentality which some of you are happy to obey.
And I agree with Hamster they are not delusional because they are well aware of the crimes, it is pure unabashed love for a family of thugs and they stand behind this thuggery through thick and thin.
June 4th, 2013, 12:02 pm
Citizen said:
There are clear signs that the Anglo-Saxons and all others trying to catch their own fish in the troubled Turkish water – The goal of open and covert pressure of the U.S. and UK on Erdogan is clear – get him to active part in the war in Syria. However: the process of destabilization seems to go out of control.
June 4th, 2013, 12:04 pm
Ziad said:
Ten Palestinians Kidnapped In Qalqilia, Bethlehem And Hebron
Monday at dawn, June 3 2013; dozens of Israeli soldiers invaded the West Bank districts of Qalqilia, Bethlehem and Hebron, and kidnapped ten Palestinians after breaking into their homes and searching them.
http://imemc.org/article/65609
June 4th, 2013, 12:18 pm
revenire said:
Erdogan once said “he whose country revolts against him has lost his legitimacy to be their leader.”
June 4th, 2013, 12:23 pm
revenire said:
Sami the traitors in the South called Lincoln all manner of foul names.
Assad is very much like Abraham Lincoln.
God bless this special man – Bashar.
June 4th, 2013, 12:27 pm
Ziad said:
Dozens of Photos Showing Toxic and Chemical Gas Canisters Used on Protesters in Turkey
Photos surface from Turkey showing toxic and chemical gas canisters that were used to attack protesters in Istanbul. One photo even shows bullet casings that were apparently fired on protesters.
http://intellihub.com/2013/06/03/dozens-of-photos-showing-toxic-and-chemical-gas-canisters-used-on-protesters-in-turkey/
June 4th, 2013, 12:42 pm
Sami said:
The video linked by Syrian is a clear indication that Baathism is dead in Syria. Too bad it spawned a much uglier form of fascism known as ultra-Assadism.
June 4th, 2013, 12:44 pm
revenire said:
Always these big pronouncements. Yawn.
June 4th, 2013, 12:53 pm
Majed97 said:
“To say in Syria 100,000 died while in American civil war 700,000 died, is nonsense, since during american civil war ,nine of every ten wounded died, at that time there was no antibiotics, no blood volume treatment,or serum, and no anaesthesia,to say it clearly, 90% of wounded could have been saved”
True, but how many more Americans would have died back then have they used the kind of advanced mass killing weapons available in Syria today, not to mention car bombs in congested cities!?!
June 4th, 2013, 1:03 pm
revenire said:
Festival in Ramallah in Palestine in Solidarity with Syria
RAMALLAH, (SANA) – People of Ramallah city held on Monday a festival in solidarity with Syria at Saidit al-Bishara Church.
The participants observed a moment of silence in honor of the martyrs’ souls, stressing their solidarity with the Syria’s people, President and army in the face of the plot targeting it.
Archbishop of Sebastia for the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate, Archbishop Atallah Hanna, said that conspiring against Syria is conspiring against Palestine, adding that the persons who sold their conscience for a couple of dollars are similar to Judas Iscariot who betrayed his master for 30 silver coins.
For his part, liberated prisoner Sudqi al-Maqt, said that “We came here from the occupied Syrian Golan. We are the grandchildren of Sultan Bashar al-Atrash and we are the resistance’s supporters.”
M. Nassr/ H. Said
http://sana.sy/eng/22/2013/06/04/485713.htm
June 4th, 2013, 1:11 pm
Ziad said:
“As well-known, Hezbollah was formed in reaction to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and its harsh and brutal occupation in violation of Security Council orders. It won considerable prestige by playing the leading role in driving out the aggressors. Also, like other Islamic movements, including Hamas, it has gained popular support by providing social services to the poor.”
Noam Chomsky
June 4th, 2013, 1:38 pm
Citizen said:
Revolt in Turkey: Erdogan’s Grip on Power Is Rapidly Weakening
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/revolt-in-turkey-erdogan-losing-grip-on-power-a-903553.html
Should Turkish police and its military decide to take the side of the protestors? Edrogan’s days may well numbered as the leader of Turkey. And such a potential regime change has to be making the leadership of the US, NATO and Israel very nervous, because if Edrogan goes, and is replaced by someone who does not want to see regional interference in Syria, the US, NATO, and Israel will have lost their northern front for an attack against Syria.
June 4th, 2013, 1:58 pm
Citizen said:
http://youtu.be/7IcbwxPyh1g
June 4th, 2013, 2:07 pm
Citizen said:
‘US military buildup in Jordan is nail tapping in coffin of war in Syria’
http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/307174.html
An American military analyst says it seems the United States is getting ready for a military intervention in Syria by deploying its military weapons in Jordan.
“The United States is getting ready for another major war effort. It sounds terrible”, Michael Burns told Press TV on Tuesday.
“The fact is day by day (Syrian President Bashar) Asad and the loyalists, the Syrian government in power, maybe winning this war, and the Western powers are doing everything to prepare everything … against Asad and the liyalists.”
“It’s just another little nail tap tap tap in the coffin of war”, Burns added……
June 4th, 2013, 2:16 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Feeling betrayed? ….
June 4th, 2013, 2:24 pm
Ziad said:
One Palestinian child has been killed by Israel every 3 days for the past 13 years
http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/6185-one-palestinian-child-has-been-killed-by-israel-every-3-days-for-the-past-13-years
June 4th, 2013, 2:27 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Still waiting for big-mouth liar to demonstrate that I have supported Erdoghan’s suppression of protesters…..
What’s the matter, cockroach bit someone’s tongue.
June 4th, 2013, 2:29 pm
Citizen said:
239. ZIAD
You have to wait for Solidarity from South Africa and not from Arabic traitors !!!
June 4th, 2013, 2:38 pm
Citizen said:
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Frussian.rt.com%2Farticle%2F10083
U.S. sent to Jordan missiles and fighter
June 4th, 2013, 2:43 pm
Citizen said:
@Alexey_Pushkov
Another blow to the lies about Syria: in Iraq found three underground factories Al-Qaeda for the production of sarin. And used his fighters in Syria.
June 4th, 2013, 2:52 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Between March 15, 2011 and March 10, 2013 d-p athad and its athma loving hyena packs murdered 7783 Syrian children .
So, in the span of 726 days , the murderers being proactively defended on Joshua Landis’s blog, with the tacit approval and support of the moderator, have murdered 10.7 Syrian Children Every Day . Yes that is it, the moderator is defending the right to continue advocacy on behalf of those who murdered 11 children every day over the past two years.
Now that makes the moderator and the owner are happy, or at least accepting the point of view of those who defend the murder of 32 Children every three days over the past 780 days as a legitimate point of view .
Let us now go back and distribute the number over 13 years say starting from March 10, 2000 , which is basically 4748 days to March 10, 2013 (when the stats was available).
Simple division shows:
7783/4748= 1.64 Children each day
Which makes it 5 Children every 3 days over the same period the regime propagandist is complaining about. Only 5 times more murderous than Israeli occupation. That of course does not reduce the gravity of Israel’s crime, but it shows that Israel now owes Mr. Ziad and his god athad and its athma a medal for making Israel look damn good, despite of all of its atrocities, when compared to hyena pack athad.
So, back to the moderation. I believe that giving a platform to those who defend the murder of 11 children every day and lie about it with full impudence, and considering that a legitimate point of view could be presented in that regard is in fact a most vulgar thing to do. Insulting them on the same or any other platform is the most civilized action a person can do short of throwing them to rot in jail for contributing to crimes against humanity.
As Majed said, rationality is on suspension. I would venture to say, it never exists for regime hyena packs here and elsewhere.
So, to some, be insulted, for this is the least you desrve
To other, enjoy your civilized vulgarity
June 4th, 2013, 3:07 pm
zoo said:
Now that the terrorists in Al Qusayr are doomed, France inundates the media with the “Sarin Song” as a desperate call for foreign intervention to save its face.
Yet nobody can prove who and how it was used. UK and the USA says more investigation is needed.
Considering that kilograms of sarin found in Syrians rebels hand in Turkey and the Sarin and Mustard gaz factory found in Iraqi areas that al Nusra uses, it leaves no doubt on who used the Sarin gaz.
In any case no Sarin song will save the terrorists in Al Qusayr. They’ll surrender or die.
June 4th, 2013, 3:08 pm
zoo said:
#235 Citizen
“Should Turkish police and its military decide to take the side of the protestors?”
It is quite possible that the army sides with the protesters. Erdogan has not stopped humiliating and jailing their leaders for the last 12 years. I wonder if this will not be the time of their revenge.
I doubt the police will change side. They are all under direct orders from Ergogan who protects and pamper them.
As the political opposition is weak, the army is the only chance to see these riots and protests turn into an uprising. One thing is clear, Erdogan’s authority has been seriously shaken and I think he lost his chance of being elected president next year.
June 4th, 2013, 3:20 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
athad and its allies in nus-lira gangs have promised to control Qusair in 72 hours, only 15 days of that 72 hours have passed since then.
June 4th, 2013, 3:21 pm
zoo said:
The USA, Turkey and the EU are secretly happy of seing the Al Nusra terrorists exterminated in Al Qusayr.
If Hezbollah and the Syrian army wouldn’t do that, the USA would have had to send drones like they do in Afghanistan.
This is why they make a lot of noise about Al Qusayr but took to serious action to call and UNSC emergency meeting.
In addition they know that the disciplined Hezbollah will make sure that no ‘massacre’ of civilians will happen.
The coalition is totally crippled by the severance of a large part of Syrians. The FSA iss about to be wiped out as a military organiztion to reckon with.
The ‘Sole representative of the Syrian people’ will be going to the conference in July, head down and with clutches.
June 4th, 2013, 3:37 pm
zoo said:
“Erdogan is delusional”
Drunks, extremists, Twitter – Turkey’s Erdogan blames all
USA TODAY
He’s not been behaving rationally at all,” said Gareth Jenkins, an Istanbul-based researcher with the Silk Road Studies Program at John Hopkins University. “He appears to be becoming almost delusional and refusing to accept the reality that these protests are mainly spontaneous and are being organized by small groups of people who’ve never engaged in politics before.”
Dismissing the thousands of demonstrators confronting police in cities across Turkey, the prime minister has labeled them “looters” and “bums.”l
June 4th, 2013, 3:40 pm
Citizen said:
it is so funny !!!!! the comment № 236. CITIZEN said:( Video ) is not mine !!!! sombody playing with comments !!!
June 4th, 2013, 3:44 pm
Citizen said:
OMG ! they return my RT Video back with the same No 236.!!!!!
June 4th, 2013, 3:48 pm
Tara said:
Now what more evidence than that? Isn’t time yet to exterminate Batta?
Tuesday 4 June 2013
Syrian attack victims test positive for nerve agent sarin, say UK and France
http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013/jun/04/syria-nerve-agent-sarin-uk-france
The British and French governments are claiming that medical samples smuggled out of Syria have tested positive for the nerve agent sarin, and say they have shown the evidence to a UN investigation.
The Foreign Office confirmed that body fluids collected from victims of one or more attacks in the country were found to contain a chemical fingerprint of sarin at the Ministry of Defence’s Porton Down facility in Wiltshire, and in Paris the French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, said he had passed similar evidence to the head of the UN inquiry into chemical weapon use in Syria, Ake Sellström.
June 4th, 2013, 4:20 pm
revenire said:
Hamster where did Assad say Qusayr would be cleansed in 15 days?
As it stands now the rebels are surrounded, can’t get their men in or out, and can’t even retrieve their dead.
Not sure what you want.
June 4th, 2013, 4:20 pm
revenire said:
Tara you’re so desperate.
Yawn to chemical weapons use. That is boring and sad.
June 4th, 2013, 4:31 pm
Citizen said:
Preparing for a Change of Government in Qatar
http://www.journal-neo.com/node/120912
Qatari Emir Hamad is seriously ill and having difficulty performing his duties as head of state. A liposuction operation in May 2011 reduced his weight by 40 kilograms and damaged his already bad health. The Emir is suffering from a severe case of diabetes (a common illness in the Emirate, where close relatives frequently marry), and he had weighed 160 kilograms. In addition, he has difficulty following the diet recommended by his doctors, especially during opulent dinners with foreign guests. His daughter, who functions as his personal secretary, has been present at virtually all of Hamad’s meetings with foreign visitors for the last five years, and she keeps a syringe containing insulin with her in case the Sheikh takes a sudden turn for the worse. At a time when Qatar is actively engaged in financing the opposition and directly involved in subversive actions in Syria, and with the people in the Emirate itself becoming increasingly dissatisfied with the amount of money being spent on the war in Syria, the ruling elite cannot allow an unexpected power vacuum should its head of state die or become fully disabled……………
June 4th, 2013, 5:02 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
Opposition have decided to send Abo Sakkar (The revolutionist hearts and livers
Eater) to Geniev-2 ,He will be fasting for 3 days before the meeting.Waleed Almoalem changed his mind,John Kerry and Lavrov are going to attend via
Vidio conference only.Abo Sakkar will be the only one attending,He will have
No hearts to eat.FROM DAY ONE THIS REVOLUTION HAVE WON THE HEARTS OF SYRIANS,NOW THE REVOLUTIONISTS NOT ONLY WON
THEM BUT EAT THEM TOO.
June 4th, 2013, 5:46 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
الخميس , 23 ايار 2013 – 08:40 الناشر : بانوراما الشرق الاوسط
ذكرت “البعث” السورية ان “وحدات الجيش السوري بدأت المرحلة الثانية من عملياتها في مدينة القصير وسط معلومات ترجح تطهيرها من الإرهابيين والمرتزقة خلال ساعات. فيما سجل يوم أمس العثور على أنفاق وتحصينات في الحارة الغربية من المدينة كان الإرهابيون يستخدمونها في التنقل وتخزين الأسلحة والذخيرة وفككت عشرات العبوات الناسفة التي كان زرعها الإرهابيون في منازل المواطنين والطرقات العامة لمنع تقدم الجيش”.
وذكرت الصحيفة السورية ان “الوحدات المقاتلة تمكنت من إعادة الأمن والاستقرار الى مزرعة العكاري وتل الصر بعد أن قضت على آخر تجمعات الإرهابيين وفككت عشرات العبوات الناسفة في حين واصلت وحدات أخرى ملاحقتها لفلول الإرهابيين في بلدة الحميدية بريف القصير”.
Why go for the copy, let’s check the original
جريدة البعث ألصادره في ٢٤ أيار
Oops I forgot, big-mouth doesn’t know Arabic. Let one of the crimes against humanity propagandist translate for it. Then again, I didn’t say 15 days, i wrote 72 hours. Clearly big mouth is seems illiterate in Inglesh.
So big mouth is screwed herein, it should bury its head in its behind. But before that, it should demonstrate where have i supported Erdoghan’s violence against Turks.
I said before, crimes against humanity propagandist don’t even qualify to clean my shoe after I step on dog poop in Muhajireen District of Damascus.
June 4th, 2013, 5:53 pm
zoo said:
#253 Revenire
The heroic Syrian army and the heroes of Hezbollah have declared that in order to limit civilian casualties to the minimum, they are moving very slowly and bombarding only the areas where they know civilians have left.
The terrorists jihadists are using the civilians as human shields as they have refused to let them go when it was possible. The claim that they are “resisting” means that they are hiding behind the civilians like they did in Baba Amr.
It is obvious that unless Saudi Arabia and Qatar make use of the billion dollars US fighters plane and helicopters rotting in their warehouse, it is just a matter of time that the terrorists are annihilated and the trapped civilians rescued.
June 4th, 2013, 6:05 pm
revenire said:
I am aware of the situation in Qusayr but it is odd to see someone claim Assad said 15 days. I don’t know of any statement from Assad, the SAA General Command or Hezbollah on a timetable.
June 4th, 2013, 6:07 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Where is my Erdoghan violence supporting statement? big mouth should produce it, or shove its head in its behind and shut up.
Other than that….
Yawn……..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
June 4th, 2013, 6:09 pm
Ziad said:
241. Citizen #241 said
“You have to wait for Solidarity from South Africa and not from Arabic traitors !!!”
I totally agree
http://thepalestinianolive.com/news/desmond-tutu-action-to-stop-subjugation-of-palestinians/
June 4th, 2013, 6:14 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Akbar,
Any news on when Ziad will be receiving its Israeli medal for making Israel look damn good comparing to athad and its athma lustful hyena pack
And no, pleasae don’t vote for angry arab, sharmine is better, but ziad takes the cake.
June 4th, 2013, 6:19 pm
Tara said:
Zoo,
Did you watch the heroic action of Assad’ s militia that I linked earlier?
It was about a young women with her child. An Assad militant was so heroic, sacrificed himself and raped her. He then shot her in the legs, kept the child alive, and discard her on the highway. When a terrorist Syrian citizen tried to save her, a hero sniper from the Assad militia shot him dead, and a second and a third and a forth one. 4 terrorist lied dead near the raped woman..
Anything for Zainab, said the heroic HA and their heroic leader. Kill, rape, and torture no problem. As long as it is in the name of Bashar and Zainab. The way to liberize Palestine start with raping that woman, doesn’t it?
Heroism in action indeed!
June 4th, 2013, 6:35 pm
revenire said:
HNN Homs News Network
JUMBLATT ATTEMPTS TO NEGOTIATE WITH HEZBOLLAH FOR SO-CALLED 400 “WOUNDED” (SPIES) IN AL QASEIR !!
Walid Jumblatt has now entered the desperate situation for the foreign Spies in Al-Qaseir, by attempting to negotiate with Hezbollah Leadership over the past two days directly, and via the Minister “Wael Abu Faour”, a vector to the party, with a request from the so-called Syrian Opposition to open a secure passage into the City, in order to evacuate what he claims to be 400 “wounded civilians” ..
Syrian Authorities have responded to “Jumblatt” by stating that, if there any civilians remaining in the City that wish to leave, can do so via the Syrian Arab Army path, as others previously have done, and reconfirmed that there will be no negotiations with Terrorists.
WANT ANY MORE PROOF THAT THERE ARE 400 FOREIGN SPIES IN AL-QASEIR ?? WE ARE LOVING THIS , JUMBLATT THE HUMANITARIAN (lol) … – J
TNN Arabic
June 4th, 2013, 6:38 pm
revenire said:
Tara what is the source of your video?
June 4th, 2013, 6:39 pm
revenire said:
Unstoppable SAA All Over Syria
Nobody envy NATO strategists and the western ‘think tanks’ for the miserable failure and disappointment they are living, all their dreams on winning in Syria are being trashed before their very eyes, and those who were putting conditions and insisting on a full victory against Syria are trying to find compromises and mediation with the Syrian state. From where did the SAA, Syrian Arab Army get all that strength? Well, we warned since the beginning, the SAA is not using its full power and only working with 20 – 30% of its might in the battles. In one earlier posts I wrote the Syrian Armed Forces before the crisis were mostly around quarter a million soldier, now they’re almost 1 million in 5 different armies fighting on all fronts all over Syria. NDF added a huge man power to the SAA, Baath Brigades, Syrian Resistance mainly in north west of the country, not to mention the Syrian security forces including policemen evolving from regular security to real fighters in their capacities. Then due to the biggest fault of attacking and involving Palestinian camps in the fights in Syria, the Palestinian Liberation Army and a number of Palestinian factions loyal to the Syrian state are ready to assist at any time. Then you have Hizbullah fighters securing the border villages near Qussayr which are mostly inhabited by Lebanese families.
http://www.syrianews.cc/unstoppable-saa-syria/
June 4th, 2013, 6:57 pm
Tara said:
Reve,
From another Syrian “hero”
June 4th, 2013, 6:58 pm
revenire said:
Tara I understand. No problem. I know you *need* to do this to make it through the day. Carry on sister.
Now for some real news from a rebel in Qusayr. He paints a true picture of the situation – except for his lies about civilians. Civilians were warned weeks ago this was coming. The only civilians left are those held hostage by the terrorists and those hostages are the only thing holding the SAA and Hezbollah up.
Rifaie Tammas (Sami) @samialrifaie 8h
#Hezbollah and #Regime forces are adopting a news strategy to control #Qusair. instead of intense shelling and then a ground assault
Rifaie Tammas (Sami) @samialrifaie 8h
they are now flattening out every building that #FSA use on the front lines and so #FSA had to retreat to the next buildings
Rifaie Tammas (Sami) @samialrifaie 8h
which are also flattened out and so on. Unless sth is done about this; unless the siege is broken from outside #Qusair
Rifaie Tammas (Sami) @samialrifaie 7h
Unless that happens, the blood of our children and women is on the international community’s hands #RescueQusair
June 4th, 2013, 7:21 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
Any one interested in joining Abo Kassar in Geniev
I heard he doesn’t like Hamsters hearts,He may even give them some leftovers.
June 4th, 2013, 7:22 pm
ghufran said:
please join me in asking the moderator to ban hanzala from this site, mr hanzala,or visitor2, can go to any Nusra type chat forum and spread his hate and non sense and find people who share his ideology, this site has standards that most of us like to keep, I am sure the owners of this blog agree.
June 4th, 2013, 7:48 pm
Ziad said:
Nasr: Iran is beating the U.S. in Syria
Syria’s uprising offered the possibility of a strategic defeat of Iran. In this scenario, Iran would be weakened by the collapse of Bashar al-Assad’s regime, its single Arab ally and a vital link to Lebanon’s Hezbollah militia.
Isolated, Iran would become more vulnerable to international pressure to limit its nuclear program. And as Iran’s regional influence faded, those of its rivals — U.S. allies Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia — would expand.
Instead, events in Syria are spinning in Iran’s favor. Assad’s regime is winning ground, the war has made Iran more comfortable in its nuclear pursuits, and Iran’s gains have embarrassed U.S. allies that support the Syrian uprising. What’s more, Iran has strengthened its relationship with Russia, which may prove to be the most important strategic consequence of the Syrian conflict, should the U.S. continue to sit it out.
http://www.newsday.com/opinion/oped/nasr-iran-is-beating-the-u-s-in-syria-1.5408542
June 4th, 2013, 8:25 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Big mouth still looking for a proof of the lie that I support Erdoghan’s violence against Turks?….
As for the failed poet….. Generally Hamsters are omnivores except for loving eggs. Nuts and fruits and are favorite foods, thus justifying your existential fear.
June 4th, 2013, 8:27 pm
Tara said:
Syrian@ 203
و ظهر في التسجيل الذي التقط سراً من داخل القاعة قائد العمليات العسكرية في حلب العميد محمد خضور، و محافظ حلب محمد وحيد عقاد، وامين فرع حزب البعث الحاكم هلال هلال.
وردد المجتمعون وهم من الطائفة الشيعية، ويقدر عددهم باكثر من ألف شخص، شعارات من قبيل “لبيك يا حسين”،ب
The video yup linked exposing the sectarian nature of Assad militia is now paraded all over arab TV stations.
It now has become official. The Arab sees HA as shiaa militants waging a war against the Sunnis and because of that HA is now really the sworn enemy. What a bunch of idiot committing their own suicide along with it and the homicide of many other people in the interim
June 4th, 2013, 8:33 pm
Syrian said:
Well. It turned out the video I posted earlier at #203 of army Major Khaddor of the “heroic” “secular” SAA, where he was using sectarian language and giving promises of money and jobs to the youth of the 2 Shia towns in Aleppo was shot about 6 weeks ago.
And according to the Aleppo’s Akes Alser site about tens of these youths answered his call to go to Ming AirPort where they all met their maker and hopefully now in the company Hafiz in the lowest part of hell.
و بغية القاء الضوء على ملابسات تصوير الشريط ، علم عكس السير في اتصال هاتفي مع مصدر مقرب من امين فرع حزب البعث الحاكم هلال هلال أن الشريط تم تصويره في الـ 22 من شهر نيسان الماضي في قرية نبل.
و أكد المصدر أن حملة عسكرية ” انتحارية” تلت هذا الاجتماع، أودت بحياة العشرات من المقاتلين، الذين تلقوا وعودا بالتوظيف في الدوائر الحكومية و وعودا لا حصر لها عن زيادة في الرواتب و حل مشاكل الفرار من الجيش النظامي.
و بالعودة إلى التقارير الميدانية المتعلقة بالقريتين في التاريخ المذكور، يطفو على السطح ما تحدثت عنه قناة المنار التابعة لحزب الله عن اختطاف 30 شابا من القريتين المذكورتين و التمثيل بجثثهم، و هو ما نفاه قيادي معارض لعكس السير ، مؤكدا أنهم تمكنوا من قتل 30 مقاتلا من ميليشيا الشبيحة لدى محاولتهم التوجه نحو مطار منغ العسكري، حين كانت كتائب الجيش الحر و الكتائب الاسلامية تحاول اقتحامه.
http://www.aksalser.com/?page=view_articles&id=4f60a6ac148d08861d8070005ed5b16b&ar=820202311
June 4th, 2013, 8:39 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Comment # 130 by Revenir says HA offensive will start today,in Halab, I have not heared anything today
Hanzala represents group in Syria, his Ideas must be respected,
June 4th, 2013, 8:45 pm
zoo said:
#264 Tara
This civil war if full of such tragedies. The peace conference proposed by the Russians more than a year ago and finally endorsed by the US and reluctantly by the other accomplices is supposed to stop the killing.
Who is the side that prefers to see more tragedies than a cease fire?
With their refusal to participate in an international conference under the auspices of the U.N, I consider the opposition 100% responsible of all the deaths that have been happening for months since Russia and the international community agreed on the Geneva accord. When Bashar al Assad first proposed the dialog, the opposition received it with laughs. It’s no time for laughs anymore.
The tears of the opposition on the civilians death are just crocodile tears. They have done nothing to stop the killing, they have just used the dead Syrians to promote their own selfish and vicious agendas.
June 4th, 2013, 8:55 pm
revenire said:
Brother Majed your wish is my command!
SYRPER CONFIRMS THE ASSAULT ON NORTH ALEPPO. Wael writes that the Syrian MoD is keeping hush about this operation for reasons having to do with planning. No reporters are liaised with the SAA, Hizbollah or militia at the present time. Shadi Hilwa, Al-Ikhbaariyya’s brilliant reporter inside Aleppo, has been told not to attempt any reporting from the north suburbs. Here is what we know:
Tuesday morning, 4:30 a.m. Aleppo time, a force of over 18,000 soldiers of the SAA, Hizbollah, MI and Ba’ath Party militia converged on the northern suburbs which have been in a state of paralysis thanks to _______* who patrolled the area and sniped at citizens. SyrPer has confirmed that the 4th Mechanized Armored Division commanded by Maj.Gen. Maaher Al-Assad is positioned in this area.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63262000/gif/_63262881_syria_aleppo_blast_464.gif
Look at the railway station to the northeast and you can spot the areas of interest: Haydariyya, Hanaano and Saakhoor which are now the targets for the allied forces. It is now safe to say that previously contested quarters, such as Salahuddeen and central areas around the citadel, are squarely in the hands of the SAA
Wael tells me that ______* casualties are expected to be in the thousands. The SAA will show no mercy.
*we never want to offend terrorists or their supporters
June 4th, 2013, 8:58 pm
Akbar Palace said:
As heads is tails, Just call me lucifer
Ziad,
I finally found some time to respond to some of your posts on this thread, specifically, the one you started, out of the blue, post #176:
Children beaten and blindfolded by Israeli troops
I’m not sure why you posted that, because I thought the discussion on this website were things related to Syria. So my guess is that regime supporters like yourself need to put down other governments in order to make the Syrian government look better. I’ve noticed that not only do you like to bring up “Israeli” or “Zionist crimes”, you (and other regime supporters) are now discussing the “crimes” of the Turkish government, especially now that there are demonstrations there.
So then I replied to you in Post #192 asking you, simply, which country treated children worse. Notice I didn’t say “THEIR” children, I just said “children”. Because we are comparing Syria’s treatment of THEIR children to Israel’s treatment of Palestinian children. Just a small difference I think people should be aware of.
I was going to do the research depending on your answer, but it looks as thought Syrian Hamster did it for me (Shukran Syrian Hamster). In post #244, Syrian Hamster stated that 7783 Syrian children have been killed in the civil war to keep your magnificent president in power.
I just did a search and I found the number to be about 5000, which is referenced in a SOHR report:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_civil_war
Going back to your post #206, you admitted that children painting graffiti were “treated very brutally” and that you were “sure there other events” and that “of coarse the war is hurting Syrian children tremendously”.
That was your summary of the difficulties facing Syrian children. Then you provided several links to articles describing Israeli mistreatment of Palestinian children.
You then concluded by saying:
Now I can look you in the eyes without blinking or giggling and say:
Syrian children are treated normally. Palestiand children are treated brutally by the Israeli occupiers.
And now I would like to conclude as well. Keep posting articles critical of Israel, articles critical of Turkey, articles critical of any other country you want. Obviously, your mind is so warped, you can’t distinguish between right and wrong and good and evil. Enjoy praising your wonderful president and his “modern”, well-dressed wife/monster Asma, and good luck with your little civil war.
I am gratified that there are people on this forum who understand where children are treated better. Who understand that when you throw rocks at soldiers, that may be dangerous, and doesn’t compare to indiscriminate bombing of cities, towns and apartment buildings resulting in the death of so many children. I am also gratified that there are jewish families who donate body parts to needy Palestinian children or jewish entrepreneurs and synagogues that gather funds and charity to needy Syrian mothers and refugees.
Not only are your comparisons absurd and delusional, you believe “Syrian children are treated normally” under your God Batta.
For comparison, the number of PALESTINIAN CHILDREN killed by Israelis this year may be a few to none. Meanwhile this is what you term “normal”:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319734/Harrowing-image-ethnic-cleansing-Syria-militia-loyal-Assad-blamed-deaths-women-children.html
You should be ashamed at yourself.
June 4th, 2013, 9:07 pm
zoo said:
Al Nusra, Al Qaeda and their Islamists accomplices are the scourge of the Middle East.
They are the modern Mongols, funded by the GCC and spreading death and destruction with the help of inside collaborators.
I am very proud that a heroic group such as the Hezbollah joins the united Syrian army and have the courage to face these ‘mongols’ and destroy them before they destroy the Middle east.
I wish them full victory.
June 4th, 2013, 9:08 pm
Tara said:
I think the AL should have an emergency meeting and designate HA as a terrorist organization and freeze all its assets in the Arab world.
June 4th, 2013, 9:12 pm
zoo said:
Civilians have a new way out of Al Qusayr, a dangerous one though. Women and children are able to go through checkpoints, while men are susceptible to be arrested or killed. The refugees refuse or are unable to reveal who is manning the checkpoints
Syrians Fleeing Qusayr Report Harsh Conditions along Route
Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 11:07 am
Press Release: UN News
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1306/S00067/syrians-fleeing-qusayr-report-harsh-conditions-along-route.htm
“From the handful of interviews we have done so far, it appears that a new route for displaced people has opened up from the Qusayr area towards Arsal in Lebanon, about 100 kilometres away,” Ms. Fleming noted. She also said that some people flee to Lebanon while others are displaced internally to towns, including Rankous, Dahel, Qara, Flita and Nabek.
The refugees – mostly women and children – said the difficult journey to the border has to be made by foot.
“Fighters are said to be targeting people as they try to flee. No route out of Qusayr is considered safe, and there are continued reports of between 700 and 1,500 injured civilians being trapped in Qusayr,” Ms. Fleming said.
“Those we have spoken to say it is unsafe to flee with men, who are at heightened risk of being arrested or killed at checkpoints along the way. None of the refugees was able or willing to identify those who are manning the checkpoints,” the spokesperson said.
She noted that one woman had told UNHCR staff that people in Qusayr were faced with a stark choice, “You leave and risking being killed . . . or you stay and face a certainty of being killed.”
June 4th, 2013, 9:19 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Revenir,
Keep it secret, it means nothing happening
4 HA soldiers were burried today in Lebanon, another eight HA fighters died in Reef Damascus, the number of HA death in Qusair has not been published today, 53 Assad troops died today in Harasta.
It is clear this is attrition war, and HA declared sectarian war against Sunni, which will justify foreign recruiting.
Sooner or later HA will be defeated.
Ziad (formerly JAD) is Shiaa according to his support to Shiaa, he is not Sunni
June 4th, 2013, 9:23 pm
Tara said:
I also think that at least in the GCC, lebanese workers who support HA should be asked to leave.
June 4th, 2013, 9:27 pm
zoo said:
Reve
Ziad is Shia! OMG!
June 4th, 2013, 9:27 pm
revenire said:
Brother yes, you and I shall keep it a secret.
June 4th, 2013, 9:29 pm
zoo said:
The sarin story is such a boring story that France is repeating ad nausea to try to hide the humiliating defeat of its proteges.
It reminds me of the WMD in Iraq, reported as a serious threat to the humanity by the New-York times and Condie Rice.
June 4th, 2013, 9:31 pm
revenire said:
Brother Majed another “secret” for you – just in:
Rami Jarrah @AlexanderPageSY 6m
BREAKING: a number of FSA forces have begun withdrawing from the Qusayr after immense clashes on eastern front #Homs #Syria
Rami Jarrah @AlexanderPageSY 23m
BREAKING: Regime forces have just broken into Qusair revolutionary and military forces are calling for support from other areas #Homs #Syria
June 4th, 2013, 9:35 pm
revenire said:
Brother you check sources in Aleppo for me. I don’t mind if they are opposition sources. Things are so desperate for the terrorist FSA and their supporters they’ve been forced to report the truth about SAA victories.
Perhaps it is time for you to beg Netanyahu for another attack?
June 4th, 2013, 9:38 pm
revenire said:
Zoo I agree. The sarin story is a huge yawn. If I have trouble sleeping I count the number of times chemical weapons nonsense has been floated.
It usually works!
June 4th, 2013, 9:40 pm
revenire said:
This guy used to say Assad should be assassinated. LOL now he can stay. Thx Bob!
Let Bashar al-Assad stay ‘if it brings peace’
THE plight of millions of Syrian civilians is so terrible that the international community could consider allowing President Bashar al-Assad to stay in place until a peaceful transition to democracy can be negotiated, the Foreign Minister, Bob Carr, says.
Senator Carr told the Sky News Australian Agenda program Russia should be persuaded to bring Assad to the negotiating table.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/let-bashar-al-assad-stay-if-it-brings-peace/story-fn59nm2j-1226655480748
June 4th, 2013, 9:47 pm
Tara said:
#
#
No need to feel bored or yawn. Go and look at Asma’s picture.
June 4th, 2013, 9:47 pm
zoo said:
What a stupid expression that the USA, the UK and now France use as a veiled threat!
“All the options are on the table”
What about the options that are under the table?
June 4th, 2013, 9:49 pm
zoo said:
Reve
Once the sarin media frenzy will be over, don’t worry, we will hear again about the no-“flies” zone. It’s another yawn inductive story recycled ad nausea when there is nothing to distract from the dead-end reached by the opposition, both politically and militarily and their humiliation when they will join the conference without having got any of their hammered ‘pre-conditions’
June 4th, 2013, 10:00 pm
ghufran said:
there is no doubt that the goal of this war is to destroy Syria, both sides have powerful friends who will not accept total defeat, Syrians need to sit down and talk peace and Assad needs to leave, yes the regime troops are advancing but a permanent long-term victory for either side is very unlikely and will be very costly if it happens, war mongers on this site should be ashamed of themselves chanting violent slogans while they sit comfortably behind their computer screen asking people to kill or get killed.
June 4th, 2013, 10:05 pm
revenire said:
Tara I smiled when you said that. Jokes aside, aren’t you bored with these chemical weapons stories? This is like the tenth time. I really doubt you believe Assad gassed people.
June 4th, 2013, 10:06 pm
zoo said:
Reve
What did I say? Another Turk recycles the NFZ…
Exclusive: Top Islamic Leader Calls for No-Fly Zone in Syria
by Josh Rogin Jun 4, 2013 4:45 AM EDT
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/04/exclusive-top-islamic-leader-calls-for-no-fly-zone-in-syria.html
The head of the influential 57-country group that helped set the political stage for a no-fly zone
The leader of the world’s largest coalition of Muslim countries personally endorsed the idea of an international no-fly zone in Syria Monday, in an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast.
Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the head of the 57-country Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), is visiting Washington this week to meet with administration officials and lawmakers. The Daily Beast joined him for a tour of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, after which he declared that he thinks a no-fly zone in Syria is needed, as long as it has international legal legitimacy.
“The benefit at least is that it will stop the regime from using aircraft against its own people. And then of course it will have other effects from a military point of view as well,” he said. “We should get out of the vicious circle we’ve been living through since day one where the international community has consensus on what not to do but no consensus on what to do.”
The United Nation Security Council would have to pass a resolution authorizing a no-fly zone in Syria, Ihsanoglu said, which would mean the Russians would also have to go along. That isn’t likely, he acknowledged.
June 4th, 2013, 10:12 pm
Tara said:
The OIC should also declare HA a terrorist organization and Should freeze its assets even if it only has a symbolic power.
June 4th, 2013, 10:21 pm
Tara said:
297. TARA said:
*YOUR COMMENT IS AWAITING MODERATION.*
The OIC should also declare HA a terrorist organization and Should freeze its assets even if it only has a symbolic power.
June 4th, 2013, 10:22 pm
Tara said:
Reve,
It suddenly occurs to me that I don’t dislike you. It is rather stange.. I should really hate you.
You are kinda polite at a personal level and politeness is probably the most important factor in inter-personal relationships. One more thing you are not fed hatred which is a rare quality among ME minorities. I doubt you are born Syrian.
I still think you are a hyena.. a polite hyena.
June 4th, 2013, 10:39 pm
Ziad said:
Did an Israel lobby front group organize McCain’s trip to Syria?
http://thepassionateattachment.com/2013/06/04/did-an-israel-lobby-front-group-organize-mccains-trip-to-syria/
June 4th, 2013, 10:39 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Ghufran,
I disagree. The goal of this war is to keep Assad in power at all cost.
June 4th, 2013, 10:57 pm
Ziad said:
AKBAR
No, the goal of this war is to prevent US/Israel from breaking the resistence movement.
June 4th, 2013, 11:05 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Ziad,
Can you be more specific? What “resistance movement” r u talking about? Ru making an ohm-meter for science class?
June 4th, 2013, 11:13 pm
Syrian said:
The goal of this war is to ignite a Sunni Shia war
June 4th, 2013, 11:13 pm
Ziad said:
SYRIAN
Sadly this is also true. It is being ignited to distract the Arabs from their main enemy.
June 4th, 2013, 11:17 pm
Ghufran said:
I watched the video published by aksalser , it tells a lot about this war and why it needs to stop, Syria is a big mess now but it is never too late to try to stop this dirty war. Khaddour and other foot soldiers have their match on the other side, the war is about big players not little guys, do not over read what is in that video, it is unfortunate and appalling but predictable.
I am genuinely touched by the fact that Syrian and Ziad agree on something.
June 4th, 2013, 11:19 pm
Syrian said:
That video was predictable to all who are in revolt. Of course by now that vedio might change few but most have chosen sides.
It is with the big players now, very fluid situation, time will tell how will all ends
June 4th, 2013, 11:34 pm
Syrian said:
Ziad yes sadly, I hope the Iranian and the Lebanese go back to their home
June 4th, 2013, 11:41 pm
Syrian said:
The names of HA dead fighters in the last 24 hours
موقع عكس السير | الصفحة الرسمية
9 hours ago ·
اسماء قتلى حزب الله في ٢٤ ساعة الماضية
-1 ﻋﻠﻲ ﺣﺴﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻮﺳﻮﻱ – ﺍﻟﻨﺒﻲ ﺷﻴﺖ
-2 ﻋﻠﻲ ﻣﺤﻤﺪ ﻋﻠﻲ ﺣﺴﻦ – ﺑﺪﻧﺎﻳﻞ
-3 ﻋﻠﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﻮﺳﻮﻱ ﻣﻦ ﻣﻨﻄﻘﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﻌﻠﻘﺔ- ﺍﻟﻜﺮﻙ ﺍﻟﺒﻘﺎﻋﻴﺔ
-4 ﻓﻬﺪ ﺣﺴﻴﻦ ﺳﻠﻮﻡ – ﺑﻠﺪﺓ ﻳﻮﻧﻴﻦ ﺍﻟﺒﻘﺎﻋﻴﺔ
.5.. ﻣﻮﺳﻰ ﺟﺮﺍﺩﻱ – ﻣﻦ ﺑﻠﺪﺓ ﺣﺎﺭﻭﻑ ﺍﻟﺠﻨﻮﺑﻴﺔ
-6 ﻓﻬﺪ ﺣﺴﻴﻦ ﺳﻠﻮﻡ – ﺑﻠﺪﺓ ﻳﻮﻧﻴﻦ ﺍﻟﺒﻘﺎﻋﻴﺔ
-7 ﻋﺒﺎﺱ ﺗﺮﺣﻴﻨﻲ – ﻋﺒﺎ
June 4th, 2013, 11:46 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
The Menhebekjiah here on SC are trying hard to blame the victim, while exonerating the real murderer who (ASSAD) is destroying Syria,everyone knows it is Assad who is destroying Syria.
Also it is HA and Persia and Assad who turned this fight to Shiite against Sunni.
Tara Not only HA is a terrorist organization, it is Persia and the goverment who pretend to be Muslem, who are terrorist state, and all efforts has to be made to overthrow this evil wicked entity, they are the Mongoles that is trying again to occupy the middle East.
HA will end up the loser first,and that would be good for Lebanon and the world.
June 4th, 2013, 11:48 pm
Ziad said:
SYRIAN
I hope all foreign fighters go home.
June 4th, 2013, 11:49 pm
don said:
Mr.Landis do you agree with this language? Are Shiites animals on your board?
212. Hanzala said:
Majed, you shouldn’t speak to Shiites like they are human beings, speak to them like they are animals. They understand much better that way.
June 4th, 2013, 11:59 pm
Juergen said:
I predict an hot summer for Irans mullahs
We will see how they will manipulate the elections this time,and if they do it again, the answer will be much stronger than in 2006.
Chants Against Iran’s Supreme Leader Heard in Video of Dissident Cleric’s Funeral
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/chants-against-irans-supreme-leader-in-video-of-dissident-clerics-funeral/?smid=tw-thelede&seid=auto
June 5th, 2013, 12:05 am
revenire said:
Thank you Tara. I appreciate it.
June 5th, 2013, 12:06 am
revenire said:
Akbar you know very well what resistance movement. With you, it is always cynicism and games.
June 5th, 2013, 12:08 am
Juergen said:
Syrian attack victims test positive for nerve agent sarin, say UK and France
British and French governments say they have shown evidence of chemical weapon use to UN investigation
“On France’s behalf, I handed him the results of the analyses carried out by our laboratory, chosen by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons to identify military toxins,” Fabius said. “These analyses demonstrate the presence of sarin gas in the samples in our possession. In view of this evidence, France is now certain that sarin gas has been used in Syria several times and in a localised manner. “We decided to inform the relevant UN mission of the evidence in our possession, immediately and publicly. It would be intolerable for those guilty of these crimes to enjoy impunity.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/04/syria-nerve-agent-sarin-uk-france?CMP=twt_gu
June 5th, 2013, 12:10 am
Syrian said:
Putin disappoint Assad
بوتين يخيب ظن حليفه السوري
رأي القدس
JUNE 4, 2013
لا بد ان الرئيس السوري بشار الاسد اصيب بخيبة امل كبيرة من جراء اقوال بوتين هذه، خاصة الجملة التي قال فيها ‘ان روسيا لا تريد الاخلال بموازين القوى العسكرية في المنطقة، مما يعني استمرار الوضع على ما هو عليه حاليا، اي عدم المساس بالتفوق الجوي الاسرائيلي.
http://www.alquds.co.uk/?p=50873
June 5th, 2013, 12:12 am
Ziad said:
Syria,Putin and Iran Vs (World Organized Crime)
June 5th, 2013, 12:18 am
revenire said:
Juergen even you must realize the charge of chemical weapons use by Syria is a game. Honestly, it looks ridiculous.
June 5th, 2013, 12:27 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Syrian
Russia will not send those S300 to Syria,Russia knows that the west can and will destroy them, that will be exposing Russia power weakness,those missles can work better in Russia as Russia is large ,while Syria is small,The west knows everything about Syria, it was very funny when Assad lied and said parts of S300 are already in Syria, he must meant the availability of oil,that those trucks need.
June 5th, 2013, 12:27 am
revenire said:
I like using Rami as a source.
Rami Jarrah @AlexanderPageSY 2h
Breaking: Homs military council calling on Battalions surrounding the Qusayr area to begin immense military operations to prevent take over
Rami Jarrah @AlexanderPageSY 2h
FSA Chief of Staff denying reports of regime’s ground entry to Qusayr meanwhile Homs battalion heads confirm entry and intention to withdraw
June 5th, 2013, 12:29 am
revenire said:
Brother you’ve made all manner of wild pronouncements here over the years. I am bemused by these crystal ball forecasts of yours.
The S-300s are a defensive weapon not an offensive one. They would be used to defend from an attack by Israel or the West.
Assad did not say the S-300s were in Syria. If you can cite a source – the official transcript – that quotes him saying so I will leave this forum forever.
I know you want that. You called for my head many times.
Here is your chance.
June 5th, 2013, 12:32 am
revenire said:
Brother let me help you. This is the official SANA transcript of the Al-Manar interview with Dr. Assad. This is the one you claim he said Russia had already sent the S-300 system. As you can see, he never said that and whomever is saying he did is lying.
This is the only official transcript brother.
As they say in America, read ’em and weep:
Al-Manar: Mr. President, after the airstrike that targeted Damascus, there was talk about the S300 missiles and that this missile system will tip the balance. Based on this argument, Netanyahu visited Moscow. My direct question is this: are these missiles on their way to Damascus? Is Syria now in possession of these missiles?
President Assad: It is not our policy to talk publically about military issues in terms of what we possess or what we receive. As far as Russia is concerned, the contracts have nothing to do with the crisis. We have negotiated with them on different kinds of weapons for years, and Russia is committed to honoring these contracts. What I want to say is that neither Netanyahu’s visit nor the crisis and the conditions surrounding it have influenced arms imports. All of our agreements with Russia will be implemented, some have been implemented during the past period and, together with the Russians, we will continue to implement these contracts in the future.
http://sana.sy/eng/21/2013/05/31/485037.htm
June 5th, 2013, 12:35 am
revenire said:
I am hearing preliminary reports Qusayr has been liberated. I have no confirmation as of yet.
We do know the remaining corner the terrorists were hiding in was stormed overnight. Massive firepower was brought to bear.
If these reports are true well done SAA and Hezbollah.
God bless our army and president.
June 5th, 2013, 12:39 am
revenire said:
It looks as if the news is true.
Multiple sources reporting liberation of Qusayr.
June 5th, 2013, 12:49 am
Syrian said:
Rev.he siad it to Almanar tv in the orignal one hour interview and almanar did say that from the transcript, the next day it was gone with only half hour interview, while I know that you ready know all that and you only playing games.
It is kinda interesting that Russia made Assad eat his words
June 5th, 2013, 12:50 am
revenire said:
Syrian…
The interview is available. Are you saying it was edited out? Anyone could have downloaded it. You know if that was true the entire thing would be up all over on CNN, ABC, BCC, etc etc to shame Assad.
I know you *want* this to be the case but it doesn’t work that way in the world friend.
Russia would not do that. It’s nonsense.
June 5th, 2013, 12:52 am
revenire said:
Syrian where I saw him quoted as saying they had them was in Al Akbar but neither the transcript nor the video had the quotes in them.
I quote the relevant parts:
Exclusive: Assad says Syria has received Russian missiles
http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/15953
The first shipment of Russian S-300 missiles have arrived in Syria with the rest to arrive soon, Syrian president Bashar al-Assad said in a television interview Al-Akhbar has obtained exclusively.
“Syria has received the first batch of Russian S-300 anti-aircraft missiles,” Assad declared in the interview to be aired Thursday night on the Lebanese channel al-Manar, pointing out that, “the rest of the load will arrive soon.”
June 5th, 2013, 1:00 am
Syrian said:
I’m not your friend
Whatever Rev. he did not Say it.
June 5th, 2013, 1:07 am
ghufran said:
Jamal Slaiman-long but a good read:
1- بعد عامين ونيف على المأساة السورية ونزيف الدم اليومي الآن قرر المثقفون والمفكرون السوريون توحيد جهودهم لصياغة مبادرة أو مبادرات لوقف هذه الحرب،ألا تعتقد ان تدخلكم أتى متأخراً ؟
هذا السؤال يحمل اتهاما فيه شيئ من التجني.. كثير من المثقفين و الناشطين السياسيين الوطنيين قدموا مبادرات وطنية قبل أن ينتشر الدم و الدمار في سوريا. منها على سبيل المثال لا الحصر المبادره الوطنيه الديموقراطيه. كان هناك إحساس عميق بأننا أمام خيارين لا ثالث لهما، هما: التغيير الديموقراطي الحقيقي أو الصدام المدمر.لكن النظام لم يأبه لكل هذه المبادرات و مضى في حله العنفي.
2- هل تعتقد أن مايحدث في سوريا هو حرب خارجية أم صوت الشعب في الداخل، وإذا كان صوت الشعب لماذا أوليتم قيادة الحراك بالداخل للجماعات الاسلامية، حتى أصبحت هي صاحبة الحق والفضيلة بها وبقوة السلاح؟
بدأ الحراك بصوت الشعب السوري، ثم و بفعل القمع و انتهاج سياسات القتل و الاعتقال اتسعت دائرة الصراع، و حمل الناس السلاح لمواجهة عنف النظام،إلى أن أصبح الصراع خارج سيطرة كلا الطرفين، فاختلط الصوت السوري بأصوات كثيره.
ثم ماذا تقصدين بقولك أننا أولينا الحراك بالداخل للجماعات الإسلاميه؟ من نحن لنعطي قيادة الحراك لهذا الفريق دون ذاك؟ لا أنا و لا أي جماعة سياسية تواصلت معها و جمعتني بها مشتركات وطنيه توافقنا على أن تكون قيادة الحراك لجماعة إسلاميه أو غير إسلاميه. على كل إذا أردت أن تعرفي رأيي في هذا الأمر فهو منشور في وسائل الإعلام و في أكثر من حوار، و هو يتلخص بأن الشعار الإسلاموي الذي بات مهيمنا على الحراك و تم التركيز عليه إعلاميا، هو في البداية و النهاية اختطاف للحراك و حرف له عن مساره الحقيقي ، فالسوريون لم يخرجوا لأنهم منعوا من ممارسة دينهم، أو أن الإسلام دين لا يحظى باعتراف الدوله. السوريون و بصرف النظر عن حجم تدينهم خرجوا من أجل الحريه و دولة القانون. و في المجمل كل هذه الشعارات و الأعلام السوداء ليست صناعة سوريه و لا تمثل الشعب السوري الذي لم يكن التعصب الديني يوما إحدى علاماته.
3- ذكرت في لقاء باريس انكمكقوة معارضة وطنية تؤمنون بالمشروع الوطني الديمقراطي، وهل من طريقة لتحققيه منفردين او مع باقي اطياف المعارضة؟
لأنه مشروع وطني لا يمكن تحقيقه إلا مع باقي أطياف المعارضه في منهج وطني ديموقراطي.
4- الحديث الآن يدور عن مؤتمر جنيف2 وجميع القوى الدولية تقريبا تؤيد هذا المؤتمر .. لكن الائتلاف يرفض المشاركة دون شرط رحيل النظام بالنسبة لكم كقوة معارضة جديدة هل ستقررون المشاركة بالمؤتمر في حال بقي قرار الائتلاف كما هو؟
هذا أمر يخضع لقرار الإئتلاف في صيغته الموسعه الجديده. بالنسبة لي شخصيا أؤيد من حيث المبدأ الذهاب إلى جنيف، لأني أؤمن بالحل السياسي و أعتبره هو القاعدة الأساسيه في تصوراتنا للحل. بينما السلاح هو حالة استثنائية باهظة التكاليف على سوريا و السوريين. المعارضة الساسيه يجب أن تسمع للطيف الأوسع من السوريين الذين يرزحون تحت وطأة معاناة قاسيه.. إن ما مر من أهوال يجب أن يدفعنا للتمسك بالحل السياسي و لكن بالطبع ليس على حساب الأنتقال نحو دولة المواطنه و القانون.. هناك ثمن باهظ تم دفعه حتى الآن كي نصل إلى هذا الحلم و لايمكن ان ننجز حلا سياسيا دون الانتقال إلى عصر جديد في تاريخ سوريا.
5- طال أمد الأزمة والشعب مازال يعاني بانتظار غودو، وعندما تسأله عن الديمقراطية يجيب بأنه يريد أن يضمن حياته لليوم التالي، فما هي خططكم للحفاظ على حياة هذه الشعب ليفرح بغودو والديمقراطية الموعودة ؟
تسألينني و كأني قائد البلاد أو قائد الثوره.. أنا واحد من السوريين الذين يؤمنون بأن هذا النظام قد فقد أسباب بقائه، و بأن سوريا تستحق نظاما ديموقراطيا وطنيا يسمح للشعب السوري أن يكون صانع قراره و مصيره.
هناك سوريون كما تصفينهم لا يفكرون كثيرا بالديموقراطيه بقدر تفكيرهم بسبل البقاء على قيد الحياة لأن الموت يحيط بهم من كل حدب و صوب. وهناك سوريون قرروا أن يمضوا في طريقهم حتى النهايه مهما كانت التضحيات، و النهايه بالنسبة لهم ليست إسقاط النظام فقط بل و محاسبة كل من تلطخت يده بالدماء. و هناك سوريون صامتون منتظرون. و هناك سوريون يحرقون البلد كي يبقى الأسد. و هناك سوريون لهم رأي رابع و خامس.. كل هؤلاء سوريون.لكن على النخب الساسيه أن لاتخدع أحد من السوريين بأن تصور لهم أن المشوار قصير و أن جنة الديمواقراطيه ستفتح أبوابها للزوار في اليوم التالي لرحيل النظام. إنه طريق طويل و نمط حياة نحتاج إلى زمن حتى نعيشه و نقطف ثماره. إن رحيل نظم الاستبداد هي الخطوة الأولى في طريق بناء الديموقراطيه لا أكثر. و لكن بعد هذه الخطوه هناك خطوات على طريق طويل و شاق.و خاصة في سوريا حيث وصل حجم الدمار المادي و النفسي و الاجتماعي حدودا بعيدة جدا. و تعرفين أن التدمير سهل و لكن إعادة البناء صعبة جدا.
6- بعد ما شاهدناه من اختلافات في مؤتمر استنبول بين أطياف المعارضة بتوجهاتها الدينية والعقائدية، هل تفسر هذا الخلاف بأنه صراع على السلطة ولهذا السبب تم رفض قائمتكم كي لا تتساوى النسب داخل الائتلاف؟
منذ الأيام الأولى ظهرت الانقسامات بين القوى المعارضه. و الذي يتأمل في خطاب الجميع يجد أنهم جميعا يسعون نحو نفس الهدف و هو سوريا الديموقراطيه. من حق المرء هنا أن يتساءل ماهي أسباب الخلاف و الانقسام إذا؟ أظن أن المرء لن يجد إلا سببا واحدا ألا و هو الصراع على الزعامه. زعامة الحراك و زعامة البلاد بعد سقوط النظام الذي توهموا بأن سقوطه سيأخذ بضع أسابيع أو شهور. و لكن أظن أن الجميع بعد عامين و نصف من الصراع الدامي قد بدأ يراجع حساباته.
توسعة الإئتلاف كانت تهدف في أساسها إلى خلق نوع من التوازن، و لم يعد سرا أن ذلك تم بعد صراع حقيقي لأن البعض كان يعارض ذلك بشده و يصر على الإسئثار بتمثيل قوى المعارضة السوريه،و عندما لم يقبلوا إلا ثمانيه من قائمتنا كتبت على صفحتي بأنهم يفكرون تماما كحزب البعث و يريدون الإئتلاف على شاكلة الجبهة الوطنيه التقدميه.
على كل نحن الآن في وضع مختلف، فقد توسع الائتلاف و أصبح يضم طيفا أوسع من قوى المعارضه وهذه خطوة إيجابية كبيره في الاتجاه الصحيح. و نحن اليوم أمام استحقاق وطني كبير و هو إخراج وطننا من هذا الجحيم و العمل مع أهلنا و مع الدول المؤثرة و الدول صاحبة القرار الدولي كي نوقف نزيف الدماء، و نرفع المعاناة عن شعبنا و أن نضمن بأن كل تلك التضحيات الهائلة لن تذهب سدى.و أن سوريا ستسير باتجاه الحرية و الديموقراطيه.
7- بمناسبة الحديث عن الدول المؤثره و الدول صاحبة القرار، كيف تنظر إلى التدخل الخارجي في الشأن السوري و من يتحمل مسؤوليته؟
أنظر له بأسى. لا يوجد إنسان وطني يسعده أن يرى مصير بلده قد أصبح في أيد خارجيه. و هذا في الأول و الآخر مسؤولية النظام الذي غلب بقاءه على مصلحة الوطن. سوريون كثر حذروا منذ البدايه بأنه في حال عدم الاستجابه لمطالب الشارع في التغييرالسياسي سينشب صراع عنفي غير سياسي في البلاد، و سنكون مكشوفين أمام كل أنواع التدخلات سواء أرادت بنا خيرا أو شرا. و هذه التدخلات ليست دوما من جانب القوى المؤيده للثوره فقط كما يروج إعلام النظام بل هي أيضا من جانب القوى المسانده للنظام أيضا، و الكل يعرف حجم التأثير الروسي و الإيراني في القرار السوري. في النهايه يجب أن ندرك أن التدخل الخارجي و انتشار السلاح صارا مع الأسف أمرا واقعا يجب أن نتعامل معه و لكن على أسس وطنيه.
8- هل سنشهد في الفترة القادمة تغييراً في قيادة المعارضة من الاتجاه الديني إلى النخبوي المثقف والعلماني ليصبح القلم والفكر بديلا عن السلاح وتقطيع الرؤوس؟
المعارضة السوريه يجب أن تمثل حقيقة الشعب السوري و الشعب السوري لم يخرج لأن النظام منع بناء المساجد، أو منع رفع الأذان. الشعب السوري خرج ضد الفساد و الاستبداد و كل ما عدا ذلك يندرج من وجهة نظري في المؤامرة على سوريا. إن تقطيع الرؤوس لا يختلف أخلاقيا ولا وطنيا عن الإجرام الذي يمارسه النظام. بل هو أسوأ لأنه طعن في ظهر ثورة الشعب السوري بهدف تشويهها و حرمانها من التعاطف و التأييد.
9- في حال فشل الجهود المبذولة لإيجاد حل سياسي ماهي الاحتمالات التي ستواجه سوريا برأيك؟
مزيد من القتل و الدمار و انهيار للدوله و مزيد من التفكك الاجتماعي.
10-الجميع معارضة وموالاة يتحدث عن كل الشعب السوري وكأن كل طرف ضامن الاجماع الشعبي على فكره ومشروعه كيف سنفهم أن صندوق الاقتراع هو من يحدد مشروعية الجميع؟
أنت محقة في سؤالك هذا. النظام يتحدث و كأن الأغلبية الساحقه تقف معه، و بالمقابل كل جهة من جهات المعارضه تتحدث و كأن الشعب السوري جالس في الغرفة المجاورة ينتظر قراراتها كي يتحرك بناء عليها. بالنسبة لي شخصيا لا أمثل إلا نفسي كمواطن سوري، و ربما أمثل من يتفقون معي بالرأي و لا أعرف إن كانوا ألفا أو مليونا. ليس هذا ما يهمني اليوم.
11- مالذي يهمك إذا؟
يهمني أن أكون مخلصا لقناعاتي و صادقا مع من يتفق أو يختلف معي في الرأي. و فيما يتعلق بالعملية السياسيه فإن صندوق الانتخابات النزيه في الدولة الديموقراطية المأموله هو من سيقول من يمثل من. و ربما لا يكون ذلك دقيقا في المراحل الأولى.
12- لماذا؟
لأننا سنخرج من أتون هذا الصراع إلى بلد مدمر. ملايين من مواطنيه يسكنون الشوارع و الحدائق العامه، الفقر و انعدام وسائل الحياة الكريمه تنهشهم. و هذه هي البيئة الأمثل لانتهازيين يملكون التمويل كي يشتروا الولاء و الأصوات. عندها ستكون الحاجه و ليس القناعه هي من سيلعب الدور الأكبر.فالإنسان الذي يعيش تحت وطأة الحاجه قراره الحر يكون منتقصا، و أحيانا يكون رفاهية لا مكان لها. هناك بون شاسع بين التنظير و الأمنيات و الواقع. لذلك قلت آنفا بأن طريقنا نحو دولة الديموقراطيه بمفهومها العميق و الحضاري هو طريق طويل.
13- هل تم طرح مشروعكم السياسي على جميع أطراف المعارضة خارج الائتلاف او هل من الممكن انضمام اطراف جدد كهيئة التنسيق مثلا او اعضاء مستقلين ؟
كل المشاريع السياسيةمطروحة و معروفه لمن يريد أن يعرفها. و ما قبولي الدخول في الإئتلاف بعد توسعته إلا تلبية لنداء كنت واحدا من مطلقيه، و هو اتحاد قوى المعارضة الوطنيه. و أتمنى أن لا تذهب المعارضه إلى جنيف إلا في وفد موحد و لو أني أعرف أن أمنيتي هذه صعبة التحقيق.
14- عرفت أنك كنت شديد التردد في دخول الإئتلاف
هذا صحيح.. لأن عضوية الإئتلاف ليس منصبا كما يعتقد بعض الأخوه المنتقدين و ليس مغارة علي بابا حيث الدنانير و المجوهرات نعب منها كيفما نشاء كما يروج التخوينيون. دخول الإئتلاف بالنسبة لي ضد مصلحتي الشخصيه كفنان يطمح لأن يكون موضع محبة الجميع. و لكي يحقق الفنان ذلك لا بد له أن يبتعد عن الخوض في كل ما هو إشكالي و خاصة في المسائل السياسيه و هذا في الحقيقه هو منهج الغالبيه الساحقه منا. سمعت كثيرا من نصائح المحبين من أسرتي و أصدقائي أن لا أنخرط في هذا الأمر. و كي أكون صادقا فكرت كثيرا في نصائحهم، لكني شعرت بأن في ذلك نوع من الأنانيه. أشعر أنه من واجبي الوطني أن أساهم في العمل من أجل الوصول إلى التغيير السياسي المنشود، و خاصة بعد قرار التوسعة.
15-استاذي الكريم نحن على الأرض، ونعرف كم اصبح الصراع دمويا وشبه طائفي أن لم نقل طائفيا كاملا .. أنت جمال سليمان من أب علوي معروف وأم سنية من أشهر عائلات دمشق، وعن قرب أعرف كم تمقتون الفكر الطائفي وأعرف أيضا كمية المحبة لسوريا جمعاء وبكل مكوناتها، فمن واجبكم الضروري الاسراع لإنقاذ ماتبقى من هذا الفكر، فماذا تقول لأبناء سوريا موالاة ومعارضة لمنعهم من الانسياق وراء هذه الكارثة ولمن يسعى إلى تكريس هذا الفكر في عقول شبابنا؟
أقول لهم لا تضيعوا البوصله و إلا سيكون كل ما حصل خسارة كارثيه لا شئ يستحقها.
15- و ما هي البوصله برأيك؟
إن الذي صور فيديو الجنود السوريين الذين يدوسون مواطنين مكبلي الأيدي و يقولون لهم باللهجة الساحليه “بدكن حريه؟ هي هيه الحريه” ثم قام بنشر هذا الفيديو أرادها منذ البدايه أن تكون حربا طائفيه، و أراد أن يزج بأبناء الطائفه العلويه في هذا الصراع الجهنمي.
إن البوصله هي سوريا الوطن الواحد الذي تسوده دولة المواطنه و القانون. إن وجود المسلحين الأجانب على الأرض سواء كانوا ليبيين أو أفغان أو شيشان أو إيرانيين أو من حزب الله هو الظرف الأمثل لقيام حرب مذهبية تستمر سنين و تنتشر نيرانها بعيدا خارج سوريا. .يجب أن نعي ذلك و أن نعمل ضده بكل ما أوتينا من قوه و وعي.
يارا المحاميد
June 5th, 2013, 1:11 am
majedkhaldoun said:
من المؤكد ان تصريحات الرئيس الروسي فلاديمير بوتين التي ادلى بها على هامش لقاء مع الاتحاد الاوروبي، وقال فيها ان روسيا لم تسلم حتى الآن صواريخ اس 300 المتقدمة الى سورية ستفاجئ الرئيس السوري بشار الاسد والكثيرين من اصدقاء الروس في الوطن العربي، خاصة ان الرئيس السوري اعطى انطباعا قبل اسبوع اثناء حديث له الى محطة ‘المنار’ اللبنانية ان بلاده تسلمت الدفعة الاولى من هذه الصواريخ.
June 5th, 2013, 1:23 am
revenire said:
Syrian well, if he did someone edited the video. I think you were carried away and wanted him to be embarrassed but Russia would not do that in such a way publicly. That is something that isn’t done in the world of diplomacy.
All of us allow our emotions to get the better of us at times. It is human.
Your cause is lost. At this point the only thing your side has left is 1.) the honest opposition can make peace 2.) the terrorists either surrender or will be eliminated by the army and their allies – Hezbollah and, if need be, Iran.
Everyone is my friend.
June 5th, 2013, 1:25 am
Ilya said:
Rev
Great news, Is Aleppo next to be liberated?
June 5th, 2013, 1:26 am
revenire said:
That is what I am hearing. I pray our soldiers do it with the least amount of bloodshed as possible.
June 5th, 2013, 2:21 am
revenire said:
The Syrian flag flies over Qusayr!
June 5th, 2013, 2:22 am
revenire said:
Zaid Benjamin @zaidbenjamin 51s
#BREAKING: Syrian Revolution General Commission (opposition) says al-Qusayr “was a round in a war and we have lost it” #Syria #Assad
June 5th, 2013, 2:23 am
revenire said:
Iman @Iman84NL 19s
Soldier wave your beautiful flag! May the colour of red, white, black and with it’s two green stars wave forever!! pic.twitter.com/rTq49pAdOf
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL-dWN-CIAAeMIK.jpg
June 5th, 2013, 2:30 am
Ilya said:
I guess Syrian army learned lesson from Russia war in chechnya.
When Russia recaptured Grozny in 1999/2000 looks somewhat similar in tactics to capturing of Qusayr.
June 5th, 2013, 2:39 am
revenire said:
Yeah I think you’re right Ilya. I heard they really pounded them bad tonight. It was a surprise attack with overwhelming force. They were in a state of panic.
Dab’aa will be bad too.
There is a lot of work left to do but this is a great victory.
June 5th, 2013, 2:47 am
revenire said:
http://www.almanar.com.lb/manarlive.php
Live on Al-Manar right now – liberated Qusayr.
June 5th, 2013, 2:51 am
revenire said:
Syrian rebels say leave Qusair after army, Hezbollah onslaught
(Reuters) – Syrian rebels withdrew overnight Wednesday from the Syrian town of Qusair near the border with Lebanon after an onslaught by the Syrian army and Hezbollah fighters killed hundreds of people, a rebel statement said.
“In face of this huge arsenal and lack supplies and the blatant intervention of Hezbollah… tens of fighters stayed behind and ensured the withdrawal of their comrades along with the civilians,” said the statement, which was sent to Reuters.
(Reporting by Khaled Yacoub Oweis; editing by Crispian Balmer)
June 5th, 2013, 2:55 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
And the Syrian currency continues its descent to the Abyss.
US Dollar= 153 SL
Euro= 197 SL
Saudi Rial = 40.5
June 5th, 2013, 3:08 am
apple_mini said:
I gotta tell ya. The capture of Al Qusair is a big boost to the regime and SAA. SAA has intensified its attack around Damascus which is actually just as important as Al Qusair.
I have heard more frequent fighter jets in action just this morning. And more loud shelling.
While SAA is consolidating the south, its infantries are pushing in Aleppo.
Meanwhile, Erdogan is draining his strength inside and outside. That is what I called “blowback” to his arrogant and moronic ideology.
The regime is ridiculing itself while it is gloating over Turkish government. Unfortunately, Syria is facing much severe problem and it is why most Syrians are standing behind the regime for the moment to rein in those armed insurgents and bring back security and order.
Whether the opposition can use its diminishing strength to form some kind of counter-balance to the growing power of the regime and possibly lay a foundation for a progressive political system for this country, it is really up to them. By judging from its selfish, narrow-minded and spineless members, I doubt we can get any positive contribution from them.
June 5th, 2013, 3:48 am
Citizen said:
/And the Syrian currency continues its descent to the Abyss/
Syria has always been – is – and will be self-sufficient country!
Syrians have long time shown sneeze on the exchange rate! soon your exchange rate is not practical in a yield of Yuan and the ruble as a global currency!
June 5th, 2013, 4:14 am
Citizen said:
how is this so? why the list did not include Bernard Levy?
During the world’s most secretive gathering the Bilderberg Group is set to discuss topics including cyber warfare, US foreign policy, “developments in the Middle East” and “Africa’s challenges” despite the glaring absence of regional representatives.
The Bilderberg Group, long criticized for a lack of transparency, has revealed details of its upcoming meeting. This year 138 politicians, bank bosses, billionaires, chief executives and European royalty have confirmed their attendance to the invitation-only event, set to take place in Watford, England. The list notably includes only 14 women.
The group is comprised largely of individuals from financial and business backgrounds – there will be nearly three dozen CEOs and more than two dozen Chairmen of banks and petroleum giants. Twenty-three financial institutions will be represented at the five-star Grove Hotel near Watford, Hertfordshire, including Goldman Sachs.
As the list was released, critics could not help but point fingers at problems some of the attendees are currently facing in their respective fields.
Special attention has been placed on Amazon’s founder and CEO Jeff Bezos and Google’s Eric Schmidt, as the two are currently facing unprecedented political pressure over their tax avoidance strategies. Google, for its part, has faced scrutiny amid reports that it paid just £10 million in corporation tax in Britain between 2006 and 2011, despite revenues of £11.9 billion.
Chancellor George Osborne and his Labour shadow Ed Balls, who have been making headlines with their spending and tax offers for the UK, will also rub shoulders with other participants of the Bilderberg Conference.
One of the guests is group chairman of HSBC Holdings plc, which faced a stringent investigation in 2012 for allegedly assisting in the laundering of money from Mexico, Iran and Syria for terrorist networks and drugs cartels.
Among guests there are also the 75th and 70th US Treasury Secretaries, Tim Geithner and Robert Rubin, respectively.
There will be other leading figures such as Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, former US secretary of state and Nobel Peace Prize winner, Henry Kissinger, and David Petraeus, the former director of the CIA.
The list of prestigious names also includes the former Prime Ministers of France and Italy, François Fillon and Mario Monti.
There will also be scholars from some of the world’s most prestigious universities – one from Harvard University, two from Stanford, and one from both Oxford and Princeton.
Starting June 6 for three days, the delegates will be discussing of the record a list of topics of universal importance, determining how the world should proceed.
“The conference has always been a forum for informal, off-the-record discussions about megatrends and the major issues facing the world,” a Bilderberg spokesman said in a press release.
Originally founded in 1954 to foster dialogue between Europe and North America, this year’s topics include an expansive range of issues.
With Europe still trying to find solutions for financial problems and growing unemployment, the elite guests are set to discuss “jobs, entitlement and debt”, “politics of the European Union” and the broadly defined “current affairs”.
Among the 12 “key topics” for this year’s conference are “developments in the Middle East” and “Africa’s challenges.” The inclusion of “Africa’s challenges” is an interesting choice, as the guest list is notably absent of any major (or minor) political or academic figures from that vast continent.
Despite Bilderberg’s traditional exclusion of other areas of the world, six Turkish attendees are slated to be the only Middle Eastern voices at the conference. The inclusion of a large contingent from that country comes at an auspicious time, as political demonstrations continue throughout Turkey in opposition to the ruling AKP party……./../……
http://rt.com/news/secretive-bilderberg-africa-middle-east-238/
June 5th, 2013, 4:27 am
Citizen said:
Syrians living in the United States!packed up your luggage!
The “one world” economic agenda that Barack Obama has been pushing is absolutely killing the U.S. economy. As you will see later in this article, we are losing jobs and businesses at an astounding pace. And each new “free trade” agreement makes things even worse.
For example, just check out the impact that the recent free trade agreement that Obama negotiated with South Korea is having on us…
–A 10 percent decline of U.S. exports to Korea
–The U.S. trade deficit with Korea has climbed 37 percent
–U.S. auto industry has been crippled
–Loss of U.S. control where international trade, banking and finance is concerned
–A projected 159,000 jobs will be lost….
http://www.globalresearch.ca/trans-pacific-partnership-obamas-secret-trade-agreement-will-push-the-deindustrialization-of-america-into-overdrive/5337667
June 5th, 2013, 5:40 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
I am impressed once again for the role of the US. The Obama administration has left the syrian people alone under the fire of Iran-Russia-Assadistan army. Nice job indeed. Thank you Obama, thank you US, you have done it again.
The good news is that the causes and reasons of the revolutions in the arab streets remain there and more revolution will come until Assad and criminals supoorting him get judged until death.
Congratulations to Revenire and Assad´s mercenaries for destroying Syria reforming all cities and villages and liberating it from its inhabitants.
June 5th, 2013, 6:43 am
zoo said:
More “mongols” join the FSA looking for martyrdom.
U.N.: Nusra Front in Syria gains recruits after announcing tie to al Qaida
Published: June 4, 2013 Updated 19 minutes ago
By Hannah Allam — McClatchy Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON — The rebel Nusra Front in Syria appears to have gained recruits and equipment since pledging allegiance to al Qaida, according to a U.N. report released Tuesday that depicts a widening and increasingly sectarian conflict.
The more than two years of bloodshed in Syria has “accelerated radicalization,” allowing Nusra in particular to become more influential among Sunni Muslim extremist groups throughout the region, especially now that the Shiite Muslim fighters of Hezbollah are so visibly backing President Bashar Assad’s regime, the report said
Read more here: http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2013/06/04/2531173/un-nusra-front-in-syria-gains.html#storylink=cpy
June 5th, 2013, 6:52 am
Tara said:
The Peasants now control Qusayr. So what? It was an expected outcome. They sure can claim victory over piles of dead women and children. They sure can go and thank Zainab tonight but to war is far from over and Syrians will eventually prevail.
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The fall of Qusair doesn’t change the strategic stalemate in Syria, according to Michael Hanna senior fellow at Century Foundation thinktank.
Speaking to the Guardian, he said:
It is obviously a big blow, not just tactically but psychologically, for the rebels. But we have seen these tactical ebbs and flows before … People have made far-reaching conclusions that have assumed that these temporary shifts in momentum signify the beginning of the end for either side. I think that is simply premature.
There are still huge swaths of Syrian territory that, I think, are permanently out of control of central government. There are places in the country that are never going to be reclaimed. So I think it’s hard to think of a scenario whereby we can talk about Assad winning. These limitations are going to carry on into the foreseeable future.
It’s hard to see how this becomes a model for reclaiming control of the entire country.
June 5th, 2013, 6:53 am
zoo said:
If all goes as it is now with no major U-Turn, in 2014 Gul will be Turkey’s next president and Bashar al Assad Syria’s
Bully Erdogan’ arrogance may have lost him.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/taksim-protest-to-change-ankara-balances.aspx?pageID=449&nID=48239&NewsCatID=409
Gül has the right to be a candidate again, but Erdoğan wants Çankaya too, but with more powers and less checks-and-balances. Gül is openly against increased powers for the presidency, emphasizing that many in the country have fears that it could lead to one-man-rule through the ballot box. That’s why he underlined in his second intervention in the Taksim protests that although elections are a must in democracies, they are not the whole story. Gül might find more support within the AK Parti following the Taksim theatre.
June 5th, 2013, 7:05 am
zoo said:
The courageous SAA and Hezbollah fighters are now in Al Qusayr and they’ll may be soon in Aleppo and other areas in their determined heroic battle to free Syria from the “mongols” that have invaded the country with the irresponsible complicity of local Syrians and the vicious help of colonialist powers and rotten GCC monarchies.
June 5th, 2013, 7:14 am
zoo said:
In Turkey, resistance is building up with books, not weapons.
Publishing houses to unite in Gezi Park to distribute major resistance material: Books
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/publishing-houses-to-unite-in-gezi-park-to-distribute-major-resistance-material-books.aspx?pageID=238&nID=48234&NewsCatID=341
“Books are one of the essentials of the resistance,” the publishing house said. More than 15 publishing houses have responded to the call.
June 5th, 2013, 7:18 am
Akbar Palace said:
I am impressed once again for the role of the US. The Obama administration has left the syrian people alone under the fire of Iran-Russia-Assadistan army. Nice job indeed. Thank you Obama, thank you US, you have done it again.
SANDRO LOEWE,
Sarcasm aside, were you for the US intervention in Iraq to oust Saddam Hussein?
And if you weren’t for US regime change in Iraq, why would you demand it for Syria?
June 5th, 2013, 7:26 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
In Syria, Assad resistance against his population is building up with torture and bombs.
Everbody must recongnize loud and clear now that US, Israel, Iran and Assad are the same shxxt working together for the same fxxxing interests against the arab people demands for freedom, dignity and justice.
Now it is over, everything has been clearly exposed. Assad is another zionist.
June 5th, 2013, 7:30 am
zoo said:
A question to the opposition who claim that their cause is ‘noble’ and that the rebels fighters are ‘holy’
If the “cause” of the ‘holy’ rebels is about democracy, then why is it that not a single democratic country is accepting to send them weapons?
June 5th, 2013, 7:33 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
AKBAR
Nobody here thinks invading Iraq was a good idea. I was against it then as I am still against it.
But why Europe and US decided to attack Gadafi without invading the country? It was possible to destroy Assad capabilities and let the FSA take Damascus. But they did not want this. Not Israel and not US. They need the dictator. They are afraid of the people´s demands. They are rats.
In Lybia they fought for oil under the name of freedom of the lybian people, but in Syria they have left the syrian people alone and from now on no human rights will be used as a cause for defending a population being massacred by its own dictatorship.
Congratulations to the stupid childish heresies and the criminal dictatorships.
June 5th, 2013, 7:37 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Why Assad was so self assured that no world power would dare attacking him?
Why was he so confident that nobody would eject him from power from Damascus even after acting like a brainless criminal?
Which kind of long term agreements have been signed between Russia, US, Israel and Iran-Assadistan?
These questions will probably remain without a clear answer for some years to come but the only think clear now is that this AXIS OF EVIL formed by US-IRAN-ISRAEL-RUSIA have decided to let the people of Syria die like dogs.
June 5th, 2013, 7:49 am
Akbar Palace said:
Nobody here thinks invading Iraq was a good idea. I was against it then as I am still against it.
Sandro Loewe,
And Obama was against regime change in Iraq as well! He was one of the FEW senators who voted against it.
So why would you expect Obama to help Syria in the same way GWB conducted regime change in Iraq? Seriously.
I agree with you. Our intervention in Libya was fine. Gaddafi got what he deserved. But Libya is still a basket-case.
I was for regime change in Iraq and Libya and I am also for regime change in Syria. I just find it odd why you’re asking for help in Syria’s case, but you were against it in Iraq’s case. The 2 are fairly similar. In Syria’s case, the opposition is more divided and less friendly to the US.
Also, please relax a bit on the conspiracy theories. The Russia-Iran axis is not making agreements with the US-Israel axis.
June 5th, 2013, 7:53 am
Citizen said:
From Naharnet Breaking News:
05 June 2013, 06:25 The Syrian rebel fighters announced their withdrawal from al-Qusayr.
05 June 2013, 05:28 Free Syrian Army Command denied to al-Jazeera that the Syrian Army forces controlled al-Qusayr.
05 June 2013, 04:20 Activists denied that the Syrian regime forces controlled the town of Qusayr.
The Syrian army launched a surprizing night attack and overran the insurgency positions in Qusayr. Some of the insurgents managed to flee north but will have trouble to break through the wide cordon that the Syrian army set up.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/06/the-syrian-army-takes-qusayr.html#comments
June 5th, 2013, 8:23 am
Dawoud said:
al-Qasir’s destruction and occupation by the terrorist invading Lebanese Shia party of Hasan Nasr-Satan is a dark day for Arabs and the international community. The whole world has been watching while planes loaded with armed Shia Shabiah and heavy military supplies were landing from Iran in Damascus. Is the world comfortable with a brutal dictator re-gaining control of the country through genocide? It looks this way!
The battle for Aleppo is next, and-given Arab’s and the world’s spectator’s behavior-I think in a few weeks the city will fall to the regime and its allied Shia Lebanese invading terrorists. Thousands of opposition Syrians and civilians will sadly die and be massacred. A dark day indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 5th, 2013, 8:44 am
Citizen said:
Anonymous, Syrian Electronic Army hack Turkish govt networks, leak emails incl PM’s
http://rt.com/news/anonymous-turkey-emails-government-252/#.Ua8mySLoSxg.twitter
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/tuerkei-anonymous-turkey-attackiert-erdogans-regierung-a-903889.html#ref=rss
June 5th, 2013, 8:49 am
Juergen said:
Tara
Did you see any smiling welcoming masses in the tv reports from Qusair? Surely this town was empty from citizens, all who could left knowing that their role in a month long liberated town would bring them to immediate danger by regime forces. I am sure tonight they will have busloads of people driven in to film again cheering masses happy to be ruled again by the lionking.
June 5th, 2013, 9:08 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Akbar Palace
Saddam Hussein, was against Persia, an evil entity, Assad is puppet of Persia the enemy of Arab, You must admit the difference.
Yes Qusair was a major blow to the opposition, but Battles are not the ends,the war will continue,In Uhud the prophet lost, later on he won the war
June 5th, 2013, 9:21 am
Juergen said:
Citizen
I dont know if you have studied how curencies are evaluated, but only if you have goldbars filled banks you can withstand an devaluation if your economy is weak. As long as Syria depends on the goodwill of Iran and Russia you will need hero stories like the one in which Hafez secured the banana shipments to Syria by a personal intervention. Thats a grim outlook for Syria!
June 5th, 2013, 9:25 am
ghufran said:
In a BBC interview, the military commander of the Free Syrian Army, Gen Selim Idriss, has spoken of his desire to confront Hezbollah fighters inside Lebanon.
(Salim is clearly an incompetent leader, it is people like him who make the strongest case of why armies must be under civilian leadership)
Now that Qsair has fallen and other areas, especially Aleppo and what is left of Reef Dimashq , are under threat of being next, rebels may not agree to go to Geneva while the regime is likely to say Yes knowing that they will negotiate from a position of relative strength. Without pressure on fighting parties to make concessions, Geneva 2 will not see the light and more Syrians will unnecessarily die.
June 5th, 2013, 9:41 am
Tara said:
Jeurgen
And their women actors will wear hijabs and head cover to pretend they are native .
Have they paid the Italian models yet?
They should patent reant-a-crowd concept.
June 5th, 2013, 9:43 am
revenire said:
Ha ha. GREAT day brothers!
Aleppo is next. In fact, it has already started.
June 5th, 2013, 9:49 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
AKBAR PALACE,
Yes, this is a conspiracy what Israel, US and Rusia do.
You equal the conspiracy idea with UFO attacks or an alien presence.But this is just conspiracy, one of the oldest human practices but in a large scale:
conspiracy /kənˈspɪrəsɪ/ n ( pl -cies)
1.a secret plan or agreement to carry out an illegal or harmful act, esp with political motivation; plot
2.the act of making such plans in secret
By the way CONSPIRACY is too making us believe that the 11-S was planned by a stupid bearded islamist in the caves of a remote neolithic country, Afganistán.
June 5th, 2013, 9:51 am
Citizen said:
362. JUERGEN
Listen! why do you project the concepts about integrated dependent countries on Syria??
Wake up! Syria has different economic orbit!
Syria wants to join the Customs Union
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.regnum.ru%2Fnews%2Fpolit%2F1621001.html
June 5th, 2013, 9:52 am
revenire said:
Americans have been brainwashed about conspiracies. The word scares them. Akbar is no different.
June 5th, 2013, 9:59 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
REVENIRE
Assad dictatorship supporters have been brainwashed since they were born. The Word Assad transforms them. You are no different.
June 5th, 2013, 10:03 am
ghufran said:
Muhammad Qraishan making a late admission, this subject was talked about a number of times here on SC:
المسألة مربكة ومحرجة ومؤلمة في الوقت نفسه. منذ أن حدث الذي حدث في تونس بداية عام 2011، والبعض بدأ يتحاشى قدر الإمكان وصفه بالثورة أو تراه يبحث له عن كلمة أخرى، وما أعقبه خاصة في مصر وليبيا، والناس تتابع بقلق شديد التحول العسير لهذه الأقطار من نظام استبدادي، بدرجات متفاوتة في القسوة والفساد، إلى نظام ديمقراطي يلبي طموحات الذين خرجوا إلى الشوارع منادين بالحرية ولا شيء غير ذلك. لكن ما يحدث الآن في معظم هذه الدول أن حكامها الجدد يأخذونها تدريجيا، عمليا أو عن سبق إصرار لا يهم، إلى نوع جديد من الاستبداد حتى وإن وجد ركيزته في ما أفرزته صناديق الاقتراع من نتائج علينا أن نوطّـن النفوس على القبول بأحكامها والسعي إلى التغيير من خلالها في المستقبل.
بوضوح أكبر، هل يمكن لأنظمة الحكم الجديدة في تونس ومصر وليبيا أن تقود شعوبها التواقة إلى الحرية والمعاصرة والعيش الكريم بهذه المرجعيات الدينية التي ترفعها بأشكال مختلفة؟!
للأسف الشديد لا… بل إنه كلما تقدمت ما يفترض أنها مرحلة انتقال ديمقراطي يتضح أكثر أننا نسلك يوما بعد يوم الطريق الخطأ الذي سيقودنا على الأغلب إلى طريق زراعي كثير الحفر والغبار والمطبات وليس إلى طريق سريع معبد يؤدي إلى دولة مؤسسات وحكم رشيد.
صحيح أن في هذه الدول من يمقت الإسلاميين ولا يقبل على الإطلاق بما يفعلون، حتى وإن كان سليما، ولا همّ لهم سوى تصيّـد عثراتهم وتضخيمها وتشويه أي شيء يتعلق بهم، ولكن في المقابل لا مفر من الإقرار كذلك أنه خارج هؤلاء توجد شرائح عديدة لا يرون في نظام حكم يقول إنه إسلامي، أو يوصف كذلك، نظاما ديمقراطيا عصريا قادرا على ضمان الحريات للجميع ولا يمارس الوصاية على أفكارهم ومعتقداتهم بل يسمح للجميع بالتحرك في فضاء المواطنة الضامن للمساواة بين كل أبناء الوطن بعيدا عن ممارسات أدمنت تصنيف الناس بين الصالح والطالح وبين ‘المؤمن’ و’الكافر’ مصادرين حق المولى عز وجل في محاسبة عباده يوم يقوم الحساب.
الأنكى أن ما يجري في مصر وتونس وليبيا أدى في النهاية وبدرجات متفاوتة إلى اصطفاف موضوعي، وحتى تحالف، بين القوى الديمقراطية والليبرالية التواقة إلى أنظمة حكم متحررة من عبء الإيديولوجية ووصفات التقوى الجاهزة من ناحية، وبين فلول الأنظمة السابقة وأيتامها الذين تحول كثير منهم بقدرة قادر إلى غيورين على قيم الحرية والحداثة من ناحية أخرى . هذا التلاقي يسيء إلى الأوائل ويغفر للآخرين. والذريعة هي محاربة الإسلاميين الذين يتحمل كثير منهم المسؤولية الأكبر في جعل السخط على سياساتهم يجمع من لا يفترض أن لا شيء يجمعهم.
المفارقة أن كثيرا ممن جاؤوا إلى تونس وليبيا مثلا بعد سقوط بن علي والقذافي قدموا إليها من دول غربية عريقة في الديمقراطية وحقوق الإنسان، مهما قيل من دعاية سمجة، ولذا كان يفترض بهم أن يسيروا بدولهم ولو تدريجيا نحو نظام ديمقراطي عصري كذلك الذي تنعموا بظلاله الوفيرة لسنوات، لا أن يعودوا إلى دفاتر قديمة صفراء ينفضون عنها الغبار بما سمح في النهاية ببروز تيارات دينية أكثر منهم تشددا وغلوا
لقد كانت أنظمة تونس ومصر وليبيا كاتمة على أنفاس الناس حد الاختناق ولكن ما ينتظر هذه الدول، إذا ما دانت الأمور إلى الحركات الدينية المتشددة بأجنداتها الموغلة في التحكم في رقاب الناس وضمائرهم، هو أن تحــنّ أعداد متزايدة إلى ما كنا عليه من قبل بعد أن ‘جاءت الحزينة تفرح ما لقتش لها مطرح’ كما يقول المصريون!!. أحد اللبنانيين الظرفاء صرخ في بعض من كانوا يخوضون في هذه الهموم والهواجس ‘يا عمي ما أدراكم… لعل الديمقراطية لا تليق بنا’!!
(one thing stands out: poor and hungry people are not able to make free decisions at the ballot box, we have seen the political money at work in a number of countries including Lebanon (Hariri)where locals are paid to vote a certain way. Expect a lot of that in Syria if elections are held next year(a big if))
June 5th, 2013, 10:05 am
Akbar Palace said:
361. majedkhaldoun said:
Akbar Palace
Saddam Hussein, was against Persia, an evil entity, Assad is puppet of Persia the enemy of Arab, You must admit the difference.
Majedkhaldoun,
I admit, that these two Baathists governments were on opposite sides in terms of support for the Iranian government.
But as much as I dislike the Iranian government, that doesn’t make Saddam’s crimes excusable. Saddam killed just as many innocent people as Assad, and possibly more.
You guys have to learn to live with different sects of Islam. And that means getting rid of self-appointed “leaders” who foment sectarianism and murder.
Does the Arab League have an army?
June 5th, 2013, 10:07 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
CITIZEN said:
Wake up! Syria has different economic orbit! Syria wants to join the Customs Unión
What are you talking about? Syria? What is this? There is no Syria anymore there is only Assadistan. Customs? What customs? hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa To enter the Customs Unión you need to have borders first…. hahhahahahahha
Syria does not exist anymore thanks to Assad stupidity and syrians unacapability to diallogue.
Due to dictatorship for 40 years they have become politically ignorant and it seems only guns can talk. Thanks Assads la creme de la creme.
June 5th, 2013, 10:08 am
apple_mini said:
Damascus is in some kind of jubilant mood today. Spontaneous celebration of the victory of SAA in Al Qusair is still on in downtown. I noticed about half of the crowd are women and half of them wearing Hijab.
Urban people will almost unanimously tell you this ongoing conflict is secular and modern life and society against the onslaught of backward and sectarian ideologies.
The so-called aspiration for equality and justice has been buried deep in the stench of destructive and barbaric revolution.
Violence just won’t do it to win hearts and mind from people, no matter how loud the voice for democracy and justice is.
SAA let rebels to retreat from Al Qusair to Dab’aa. It paved the way for a quick victory and present an opportunity for the country and the army to celebrate a glimpse of hope while boosting up morale to general public.
Was it a smart move from military viewpoint? Most likely it is. By driving your enemy away from their entrenched base and forcing them to fight in area their defense has not been established, you might be able to reduce casualties on your own side and uproot their entrenched advantage.
We do not know exactly what those planners had in mind. But according to the stellar performance and achievement from SAA, we surely can give them another round of applause.
June 5th, 2013, 10:09 am
Ziad said:
Qusair is a great victory for Syria. The only disappointment they let the terrorists escape.
June 5th, 2013, 10:12 am
revenire said:
Syrian army finds mass grave of “rebel fighters” in al-Qussair: report
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-06/05/c_132433174.htm
The report denied what some opposition groups were disseminating that the Syrian troops had committed a massacre in al-Qussair before recapturing it.
June 5th, 2013, 10:13 am
Juergen said:
Citzen
You are right, no other country can be compared to this mafia run state.
June 5th, 2013, 10:16 am
Ziad said:
The Normalization of War
Syria and the Sham of Humanitarian Intervention
I continue to be amazed with the ease with which the dividing line is blurred between what is real and what is fiction in the reporting on Syria by the Western media. The press in the U.S. continues to dutifully report on the “objective diplomacy” by the Obama administration to broker a “peaceful” resolution to the conflict in Syria. However, those stories of noble and innocent efforts to avert the catastrophic human suffering that has eventually engulfed Syria has sanitized the bloody complicity of U.S. policy. Diplomacy, for the U.S., has meant calling for regime change from the outset and then encouraging Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Israel, their client states in the region, to arm, train and provide political support for a military campaign with the objective of effectively dismembering the Syria State.
Two years later, with tens of thousands killed, millions uprooted and the delicate social fabric of the country shredded by sectarian brutality, the next phase in the propaganda war leading to more direct intervention by the West to finish off the regime is being organized in the form of a peace conference scheduled to take place in June.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/04/syria-and-the-sham-of-humanitarian-intervention/
June 5th, 2013, 10:30 am
revenire said:
🙂
http://24.media.tumblr.com/e5a7f9592947f1c5559fd6c249fde8ad/tumblr_mnxb44bvgF1rsdcjxo1_500.jpg
Hizbullah supporters celebrate the liberation of Qusayr from the counter-Resistance Takfiri forces. Hizbullah students offered some of their professors flowers to celebrate the event.
How about some love for our heroes?
Dr. Assad has true friends indeed!
June 5th, 2013, 10:38 am
ghufran said:
كتب الإعلامي السوري فيصل القاسم على صفحته في موقع التواصل الاجتماعي فيسبوك : ” قبل أكثر من عام تم تصوير معركة بابا عمرو على أنها أم المعارك وذلك كي يشعر المنتصر فيها بأنه قصم ظهر الثورة. فسقط بابا عمرو. لكن المعارضة وإعلامها لم يتعلما من تجربة بابا عمرو التي بالغا بتضخيمها، فراحت تقوم بتصوير معركة القصير بنفس الخطأ بأنها معركة حاسمة، مع العلم أنها ليست كذلك.
هل توقفت الثورة مع سقوط بابا عمرو، بالطبع لا؟ لا شك أن القصير مهمة لحزب الله اكثر من النظام. صحيح أن الطريق أصبح سالكاً أمامه للتحرك شمالاً، لكن معركة الشمال اصعب بكثير من معركة القصير، لأن الشمال مترامي الأطراف ومفتوح على حدود شاسعة، وليس محصوراً كالقصير بين كماشتي النظام وحزب الله. عندما ينتصر النظام في الشمال انتصاراً ساحقاً، عندها يمكن القول إن اللعبة قد انتهت. وما عدا ذلك، يبقى مجرد تفاصيل مهمة، لكن ليست حاسمة.
This is from a reader at aksalser:
الاسم : لا تؤاخذوني يا شباب … الكلام شوي قاسي (18) (13)
بصرحة معركة القصير بينت الغباء السياسي لدى الائتلاف وجورج صبرة …. والغباء العسكري لدى العكيدي وعبد القادر صالح
صبرة طلع على الشاشات عبناشد المقاتلين التوجه إلى القصير … وعمل منها معركة حاسمة … وطبعا وراءه اللواء سليم ادريس …
ادريس طلع يوجه الكتائب للتحرك باتجاه القصير …
وهون الغباء العسكري من قبل ادريس ومن قبل من سمع كلامه …ما حد تحرك غير عبد القادر صالح ((الله يحميه)) والعكيدي …
يا أخي إن كان ادريس ما عنده خبرة عسكرية … أنتو ما بتفهموا أنه بالقصير مالكم إمداد ؟؟؟!!!
سؤال للعكيدي أو صالح … بعمركم رحتوا على القصير وشفتو بيئتها الجغرافية أو الديمغرافية ((السكان ))!!!؟؟؟
يا أخي القصير ما هي حلب أو اعزاز .. القصير محاصرة بكيانات معادية من لبنان إلى قرى علوية وشيعية … مافي إمداد لا بشري ولا عسكري ولا غذاء ….
وانتو طلعتوا على القصير بمهمة انتحارية …
يا أخي القصير متلها متل بابا عمرو .. المفروض ما تضخموها ولا تسوقوا ورى النظام فيها ….
وشو المشكلة العظيمة إن سقطت القصير …؟؟؟ يا أخي ما كان لازم تتركوا حلب لقمة سائغة للنظام وتطلعوا بمشروع انتحاري إلى القصير ..
النخوة تبعتنا ….والشرف والشهامة … ما لازم يكون على حساب الفكر العسكري
This is how the NC reported the news:
تصريح صحفي
الائتلاف الوطني السوري
المكتب الإعلامي
05 حزيران 2013
بعد ٤٨ يوماً من المعارك المحتدمة على جبهة القصير، وبعد ملاحم بطولية قدمها أبطال الجيش الحر في الدفاع عن المدنيين؛ فرض الاختلال الهائل في ميزان القوى نفسه، وتمكن نظام الأسد والميليشيات الإيرانية الداعمة له من التوغل في المدينة والسيطرة على أحياء جديدة فيها.
يجدد الائتلاف الوطني السوري تحذيره من وقوع مجازر مروعة وجماعية في حال وقف المجتمع الدولي متفرجاً على عصابات الإرهاب والتطرف تقتص من الأبرياء، ويضع الائتلاف الأمم المتحدة والدول الكبرى أمام مسؤولياتهم في التدخل السريع لحماية المدنيين، ووضع حد لممارسات نظام الأسد الانتقامية والممنهجة في سفك دماء الآمنين من أبناء الشعب السوري.
ستستمر الثورة المباركة، والنصر حليف أصحاب الحق، في أنهم صمدوا في مواجهة الظلم والاستبداد، ودافعوا عن أبناء وطنهم بأروع الصور الممكن تخيلها.
Of notice, reports in opposition media that there are still clashes around Qsair and that there are rebel forces coming from the north trying to help other rebels who may be pushing to withdraw without getting attacked or captured.
June 5th, 2013, 10:39 am
Ziad said:
McCain Excuses Syrian Rebel War Crimes, Suggests He’d Tolerate Extremist Takeover Of Syria
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) on Monday downplayed atrocities being committed by Syrian rebel forces and suggested that he would be willing to tolerate extremists taking over Syria because they would most likely not be allied with Iran.
McCain has been a forceful advocate of U.S. military intervention in Syria and has spent months in television and other media interviews trying to make his case. The Arizona Republican continued that campaign last night during an interview with Charlie Rose on PBS, highlighting the war crimes Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s forces have committed to justify more U.S. intervention. When Rose noted that rebels are also committing war crimes, McCain brushed them off:
ROSE: But at the same time you do hear about atrocities on the other side as well. You know, wherever it’s coming from within the other side you do see not only stories but video?
MCCAIN: But you know, Charlie, you see that as isolated incidents of people who have just gotten so battle-hardened and angry and this happens in warfare. What you’re seeing from the other side is orchestrated training and tactics to intimidate and cow the population from the Bashar al-Assad side. So it’s — it’s dramatically, mind you, different. Horrible things are happening on both sides but with Bashar al-Assad’s forces it is a tactic that they use to intimidate and cow the population.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/06/04/2097821/mccain-syria-rebels-war-crimes/
June 5th, 2013, 10:43 am
revenire said:
Juergen now now, let’s not be so hasty to call President Assad a mafia don. Reserve that for Erdogan and other Western puppets.
I would like to think you can take defeat like a man. Maybe I am wrong.
Any new art from Kafranbel? Maybe they have a comment on Qusayr?
I will issue a warning for them: the SAA is coming and they will be apprehended.
I have asked Dr. Assad to gather their posters for a museum. Their art will be put in the Zionist wing of that museum. We’re looking for name for this glorious war museum – this victory over the Zionist enemy.
God is great!
June 5th, 2013, 10:43 am
revenire said:
Poor McCain – a senile, doddering old man who never recovered from his captivity in a cage in Vietnam.
The US lost that war too.
June 5th, 2013, 10:45 am
Ziad said:
REV
I still remember the Kafernabel sign reminding the Brits of their colonial tradition and shaming them into attacking Syria.
June 5th, 2013, 10:49 am
revenire said:
SYRIANS AND TURKS WORKING TOGETHER AGAINST DICTATOR ERDOGAN!
Anonymous, Syrian Electronic Army hack Turkish govt networks, leak emails incl PM’s
Turkish government networks were hacked on Wednesday, compromising the private information of staffers in PM Tayyip Erdogan’s office, a source in PM’s office confirmed to Reuters. The attack was in support of the ongoing anti-government protests.
Staff email accounts were reportedly accessed after a phishing attack, and those affected were cut off from the network, a source said.
http://rt.com/news/anonymous-turkey-emails-government-252/
Anonymous hacked the Prime Minister’s official website (basbakanlik.gov.tr) and gained access to staff email addresses, passwords and phone numbers, the group said in a press release.
June 5th, 2013, 10:51 am
Citizen said:
Ask Moshe Yaalon about whether Syria!
Today at 5:00 am for one-hour army troops drove the rebels out of the city Al Qouseyr , destroying more than 900 members of the armed groups, the number of wounded – about 1,500 fighters. In addition, the 300 terrorists of various nationalities captured alive. Dozens – surrendered without a fight. Seized huge quantities of modern American-made weapons. Found and defused a lot of Improvised explosive devices, and found a mass grave of those killed in the battles for the city of insurgents, where there are about 400 corpses.
Israeli TV channel “Channel 2”, said that the Syrian army had won a strategically important victory in Al Qouseyr, which suggests that the authorities control the strategically important regions of the country. In addition, today the completion of the operation in Al-Kseyre thwarts the way of arms and ammunition from Lebanon and paralyze the activities of terrorist groups in the coming months.
One Israeli websites reported today that Israel has on its territory two wounded in fighting in Al-Kouseyr terrorists who are in a hospital in Safad city.
June 5th, 2013, 11:03 am
Ziad said:
Settlers Attack Residents, Hurl Stones At Cars In East Jerusalem
Tuesday evening, June 4 2013, a number of extremist Israeli settlers threw stones at Palestinian vehicles in the At-Tour Palestinian town, in occupied East Jerusalem, and attacked local youths who tried to stop them. Israeli Policemen arrived at the scene, and kidnapped three Palestinians.
http://imemc.org/article/65616
June 5th, 2013, 11:08 am
Ziad said:
Israeli forces block efforts to extinguish fires caused by settler arson attacks
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/israeli-forces-block-efforts-to-extinguish-fires-caused-by-settler-arson-attacks/
June 5th, 2013, 11:17 am
Citizen said:
Juergen!
The camel does not see his hump!
see comments number 343 Is there a world larger than the specified Mafia! Ashamed!
http://rt.com/news/secretive-bilderberg-africa-middle-east-238/
June 5th, 2013, 11:22 am
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
Hezbollah Prepares to Invade Aleppo
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/hezbollah-prepares-to-invade-aleppo/
Shaykh Musa Furber Exposes the “Rape Fatwa” Hoaxes
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/shaykh-musa-furber-exposes-the-rape-fatwa-hoaxes/
The Free Alawite Front
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/the-free-alawite-front/
Outrage Over Qusayr: “Barbaric, Disgusting, Genocidal”
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/outrage-over-qusayr-barbaric-disgusting-genocidal/
SCUD Massacre in Kafr Hamra, Aleppo
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/scud-massacre-in-kafr-hamra-aleppo/
Terror in Syria
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/terror-in-syria/
The Beginning of the End for Hassan Nasr and his Hezb
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-hassan-nasr-and-his-hezb/
June 5th, 2013, 11:36 am
Citizen said:
Syria levels warning at Israel in wake of Qusair victory
http://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-levels-warning-at-israel-in-wake-of-qusair-victory/
June 5th, 2013, 11:47 am
revenire said:
“The armed forces will look with a merciful eye at those misled gunmen who surrender and drop their weapons, whether those who fled Qusair or any area in Syria. The homeland’s soil is sacred and can’t be desecrated, and whoever tries to desecrate it will end up either dead or surrendering.”
Dr. Assad has compassion but you must surrender. Give up your weapons and report to the nearest checkpoint. You have no hope of beating the SAA. You will only cause more civilian deaths and destruction to the homeland.
June 5th, 2013, 11:52 am
zoo said:
I hear a lot of teeth grinding at the sudden fall of al Qusayr. Only yesterday the media were praising the dedication of the ‘resistance’ of the mongols and calling for international intervention to prevent a ‘massacre’.
Well, the resistance fighters changed their mind about early martyrdom and decided on a tactical retreat, abandoning the residents to the good hand of the SAA and the Hezbollah.
The only “massacre’ is the elimination of 900 mongols to the relief of the population who can now go back home.
An important milestone has been achieved thanks to the courage, the discipline and the unity of the SAA and the Hezbollah fighters.
June 5th, 2013, 11:53 am
ghufran said:
نقلت وكالة انترفاكس الروسية للأنباء عن نائب وزير الخارجية الروسي غينادي غاتيلوف قوله إن الإجتماع الذي عقد في جنيف بين مسؤولين روس وأمريكيين ومسؤولين من الأمم المتحدة اليوم الأربعاء فشل في حل قضايا متعلقة بمؤتمر السلام المقترح الخاص بسورية بما في ذلك من سيشارك فيه.
ونقلت الوكالة عن غاتيلوف قوله “أصعب قضية هي دائرة المشاركين في المؤتمر. القضية بأكملها هي أن المعارضة السورية على عكس الحكومة لم تتخذ قراراً جوهرياً بخصوص مشاركتها في هذا المؤتمر”، معتبراً أن المؤتمر لن يعقد في حزيران/يونيو
June 5th, 2013, 12:10 pm
revenire said:
SAA cleaning up any stragglers:
Syrian Jets Chase, Bomb Fleeing Militiamen near Lebanon
Syrian helicopters bombed on Wednesday the open area on the border between Lebanon and Syria near the eastern Lebanese town of Ersal, Lebanese security sources told Al-Manar TV.
The Syrian army warplanes targeted opposition gunmen who have fled from Syrian territories of al-Qusayr border city towards Lebanon, the sources said.
Syrian Arab Army launched at Wednesday dawn a surprise operation in which it totally controlled the border strategic city of al-Qusayr, and called upon its displaced residents to return to their safe homes within days.
http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=96329&frid=23&seccatid=20&cid=23&fromval=1#.Ua9hh9KR3Hk.twitter
June 5th, 2013, 12:13 pm
zoo said:
There has been a deal in the backroom, I am sure.
The USA is not lifting its finger to help the rebels. I think they want stability back in Syria so they can proceed with a peace deal with Israel. They also want the Sunni Islamists to be weakened so they do not present a danger to Israel. These are their top priorities.
Therefore while announcing otherwise, they will manage to keep Bashar al Assad in power as they know he will agree to restart the peace negotiations with Israel interrupted in 2006 for a more reasons that he had before.
Syria, Lebanon, Hezbollah have realized that they have the same enemy as Israel, the Sunni Islamists who hate them more than Israelis do and want their destruction.
I am inclined to believe that as the Palestinians have openly turned their back to Syria and to the Hezbollah by siding with the Sunni Islamists, Hezbollah may consider the possibility of a peace deal with Israel, provided the Lebanese and Syrian lands are all given back. To defend their rights the Palestinians who made their choice, cannot rely anymore on Syria, Iran and the Hezbollah.. They now will have to rely on their new allies Egypt, Qatar and KSA.
Syria, Lebanon and Hezbollah are now free from this burden that they have carried for decades. They can now choose to make peace with Israel if their national interests are respected independently of the Palestinian issue.
I guess it is that window of opportunity that the USA wants to use.
June 5th, 2013, 12:14 pm
revenire said:
Zoo many of them – even some who claimed to be in Qusayr and nearby Homs – said the military situation there was “good” for the terrorists. They said reinforcements had arrived and even went so far as to say the terrorists had driven the SAA out of Qusayr.
All lies.
When the attack came last night the terrorist’s screams were heard. Mass panic erupted as they fled for their lives.
June 5th, 2013, 12:17 pm
zoo said:
UK arms for the rebels in jeopardy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/05/mps-arming-syrian-rebels_n_3390000.html?
MPs are demanding parliament be given the right to veto any decision to arm the Syrian opposition movement, after the British and French governments succeeded in getting the EU arms embargo lifted.
A cross-party motion tabled today calls for a “full debate and vote” before any weapons are shipped to the region.
The MPs are also demanding that parliament be recalled should it be in recess at the time the government decides to make the decision.
“It is a matter that needs to be subjected to full parliamentary scrutiny and debate before the UK potentially become further involved in another Middle Eastern conflict,” the motion in
June 5th, 2013, 12:25 pm
annie said:
from Robin il y a 2 heures.
The Syrian people will never forgive the fanatical sectarian murderers of Hizbullah nor their criminal masters in Tehran. They will never forgive the barabarian imperialists in Moscow, nor the uncaring, oblivious Arabs too busy politicking to stop the genocide, nor the ‘leftist’ supporters of fascism. Neither will they ever forget that it took Hizbullah’s supposedly crack troops, backed by Assad’s (Russian) heavy weapons, three whole weeks to clear (and destroy) a rural town.
June 5th, 2013, 12:28 pm
revenire said:
No place to hide:
The Syrian Air Force drones detected terrorists fleeing their site of defeat, Qusayr from surrounding farms they retreated into. When attempting to reach a nearby village in Lebanon, their convoy was destroyed in its entirety. No civilian casualties were recorded.
June 5th, 2013, 12:29 pm
Tara said:
Hyenas celebrating the fall of Qusayr?
Let them.
It is only one village.
Enjoy while you have it and praise Zainab.
June 5th, 2013, 12:30 pm
zoo said:
Quick, before another SA victory! YAWN….
Sarin use in Syria confirmed? Not yet, as Britain waits for UN probe
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=59262
Hague says UN must verify any allegations of chemical weapons use, after France said there was ‘no doubt’ regime had used deadly sarin gas.
June 5th, 2013, 12:31 pm
revenire said:
Dear Annie,
Sorry it had to end this way but those in Qusayr were warned. If the terrorists had not held civilians as hostages the army would have flattened them in a day or two.
The SAA is always careful to minimize the loss of life.
The Syrian people thank Hezbollah and their allies for being true friends of our great nation.
God is indeed great.
Aleppo is next on the menu.
June 5th, 2013, 12:31 pm
revenire said:
Hague and Fabius should take their comedy act on the road. I am howling with laughter at those two boobs.
June 5th, 2013, 12:32 pm
ghufran said:
اعلن رئيس “الائتلاف السوري المعارض ” بالانابة جورج صبرا ان السلطات السورية احتلت بلدة القصير، داعيا السوريين والجيش الحر الى رص الصفوف. وقال صبرا في كلمة يوم الاربعاء 5 يونيو/حزيران ان “نظام الارهاب السوري واللاة الايراني وحزب الشيطان احتلوا بلدة القصير”. ودعا السوريين الى حماية البلدة والمناطق الاخرى قائلا: “هبوا ايها السوريون فبلدكم يُغزا”. كما وجه كلامه الى “الجيش الحر” معلنا “يا ابطال الجيش الحر.. سورية لكم”. ودعا صبرا الصليب الاحمر والهلال الاحمر لارسال بعثات الاغاثة الى القصير، البلدة التي اعلن الجيش السوري في وقت سابق عن تطهيرها من المسلحين.
Sabra is a proof that idiots come in different shapes and colors, Syrians are tired of war and want all foreigners out and may not be willing to accept an expat opposition that stayed in 5 stars hotels while most Syrians were living in fear and poverty under the mercy of the regime, the rebels and foreign thugs, saying that blaming rebels and jihadists is an indirect support of the regime is both lame and dishonest, remember that we were asked to believe that rebels and their jihadist friends are morally superior and are fighting to protect Syrians and bring freedom and democracy, tell that to any Syrian and be ready for a harsh response !!
June 5th, 2013, 12:46 pm
Ziad said:
The future of the Syrian opposition does not look rosy. They have been supported with money, weapons and propaganda by the three countries KSA, Qatar, and Turkey. Turkey is now busy with its own revolution, The Saudi king is dead or dying. The emir is also very sick and will abdicate. Those two countries will very soon have other problems to deal with than pampering the Syrian opposition.
June 5th, 2013, 12:57 pm
Ziad said:
Majed said in #84
“Not only the rebels will defend Qusair, they are planning attacks on HA troops, and they will push them not only to the Syria Lebanon border, but far inside Lebanon, it will be a humilliating defeat for HA and their leader ,Iranian puppet Nasrallah.”
June 5th, 2013, 1:05 pm
revenire said:
Fall of Qusair big blow to U.S., Israel: Hezbollah
“The victory in Qusair is a heavy blow to the American-Israeli-takfiri project and a bright moment for the resistance project in Syria,” said Naim Qassem, Hezbollah’s deputy secretary-general, referring to the rebel-held town that fell to Syrian-government forces backed by fighters from the Lebanese group.
Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2013/Jun-05/219542-fall-of-qusair-big-blow-to-us-israel-hezbollah.ashx#ixzz2VMYQFenH
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
June 5th, 2013, 1:13 pm
Matthew Barber said:
Hanzala is banned for calling Shiites animals. Hanzala was warned previously about dehumanizing entire groups.
June 5th, 2013, 1:19 pm
ghufran said:
We do not give credit to western politicians as we should, they did what they can to start the war in Syria and helped supply money and weapons, through the GCC and Turkey, to Jihadists and rebels, but when Islamists start to play outside the box they got sacked by the big daddies who have achieved many of their objective without losing a single soldier but were not ready to see Nusra in charge, however, those politicians are now faced with the uneasy reality that Assad and his regime may not be weak enough even that Syria is in ruins. At the end of the day, it was mostly Syrians who died and it was Syria, not Qatar, that got destroyed, I never thought that many educated Syrians would get to a level that was previously reserved to unemployed fools, the logic, or lack of it, in some posts is mind-boggling
June 5th, 2013, 1:45 pm
revenire said:
Matt Tara called me a hyena and I would like you to overlook that. It is a playful name. I’ve been called worse in life, and honestly, I actually enjoyed being called a “regime hyena” by her. It is both a badge of honor and a friendly sort of flirting.
So it is okay with me if, of course, it is okay with you.
This is pro-Assad and pro-rebel coming together. Who knows? SC might have its first marriage someday. Stranger things have happened.
Have a lovely day.
PS – Perhaps a nice post on the great victory in Qusayr is in order?
PPS – This is a preemptive “banning” post because I never complain about, or rat* out, anyone and am not complaining.
*rat in this case is not being used to describe cannibals etc. but used in another way i.e. slang for “snitch”
June 5th, 2013, 1:48 pm
don said:
In another word he had it coming. Thank you moderator for your vigilance.
410. Matthew Barber said:
Hanzala is banned for calling Shiites animals. Hanzala was warned previously about dehumanizing entire groups.
June 5th, 2013, 2:05 pm
Tara said:
Reve,
I am married already.
And in my other life, I am marrying Dr. Roque.
June 5th, 2013, 2:06 pm
revenire said:
Ha ha Tara I am just having a little fun. I am married too.
June 5th, 2013, 2:07 pm
Dawoud said:
al-Qasir’s genocide and Iranian occupation through its Shia Lebanese terrorist puppet, Hizb al-Shytan of Hasan Nasr-Satan:
June 5th, 2013, 2:08 pm
Ziad said:
Protests across Turkey go into their sixth day.
Live coverage on RT
http://rt.com/on-air/turkey-protest-istanbul-park/
June 5th, 2013, 2:17 pm
Ziad said:
هناك الكثير مما يكتب على صفحات المعارضه عن “ائتلاف فاشل” لـ “ثورة عظيمة”….
لكن الأيام أثبتت أن هناك تناسب طردي: الائتلاف فاشل لأنها ثورة فاشلة: ثورة قطع الرؤوس وأكل القلوب وتقطيع الجثث وقتل الأسرى بدم بارد… ثورة الأكاذيب.. ثورة الطائفيه والارهاب الفكري والجسدي.. ثورة التحالف مع العدو والغاية تبرر الوسيله… ثورة السرقة والنهب.. وثورة الفساد لـ “محاربة الفساد” وثورة القمع من أجل “الحريه والديمقراطيه”…
“ثورة” تحدثب باسم الشعب السوري وتآمرت عليه وتحدته وأرهبته ووضعته أمام “حرية” الدعم أو الاعدام الوحشي.. ثم استعانت بدعم المتطرفين والارهابيين من شعوب المنطقه والعالم حين رفض الاعتراف بها!!..
Hiba Syriana
June 5th, 2013, 2:26 pm
revenire said:
Dave my father taught me never to be a sore loser. The SAA fought hard in Qusayr and won it fair and square. They did amazing work liberating it. The place had been infested for a year now. The SAA liberated it in ONLY two weeks!
Your constant carping about the heroes of the SAA comes off as “sour grapes” and a bit of jealousy.
Hope you reflect on this and atone brother.
Thank you.
June 5th, 2013, 2:27 pm
Uzair8 said:
So the regime has majority popular support?
A clear indicator of lack of public support is the regime’s reliance on Iranian, Hezbo, Iraqi fighters etc.
Why isn’t Assad able to recruit sufficently from his own population
if he has such claims of mass support?
June 5th, 2013, 3:26 pm
don said:
Qusair picture gallery – Congrats
http://preview.reuters.com/2013/6/5/gallery-battle-for-qusair
June 5th, 2013, 3:29 pm
Uzair8 said:
Regimists shouldn’t wish for greater escalation of the Turkish situation. They may regret it if PM Erdogan, as a distraction and unifying step, was to intervenes in Syria.
Actually, they needn’t worry. PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan is an honourable man and any such thought wouldn’t even cross his mind.
June 5th, 2013, 3:33 pm
Uzair8 said:
Heaven is with uprising and will decide the outcome. I genuinely believe that.
If God Almighty decides this isn’t the time for Assad’s reckoning then so be it.
The struggle will continue until God decides.
June 5th, 2013, 3:37 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Syria is the real democracy in the world, guys you cannot understand anything. Democracy as Voltaire said must be defended with violence if put in danger. Assad democracy was in danger. When is the next election? I pray for Assad to take it 99,9 % now that the 2-3 % that formed the opposition terrorist movement has been exterminated.
Assad lil abad, hahahahahhaha
June 5th, 2013, 3:39 pm
revenire said:
“So the regime has majority popular support?”
According to NATO at least 70% of Syrians support Assad.
June 5th, 2013, 3:41 pm
revenire said:
Don nice pics. Thx.
June 5th, 2013, 3:44 pm
revenire said:
Uzair Erdogan is too much of a coward to bring the fight to Assad. If he did that I would wager Turks would rise up and smash the Turkish government. The army would stage a coup. Russia has already told Erdogan “don’t even think about it Sultan”.
June 5th, 2013, 3:51 pm
Citizen said:
What is the wisdom to satisfy the request of the West to open a transit corridor for rebels to escape of it from Al-Qousayr? What does that mean? This is a huge mistake!What is this? The Syrian army will chase them for another 2-3 years?
The role in the rescue of the militants played a U.S. calls for “mercy in Quseir” and the beginning of the meeting of UN, U.S., Russia. The Syrian government has chosen to report on the “total control” over the city
It is a pity that Syria still succumbed to the pressure of NATO and left to live their wards Islamists who now have done a lot of trouble …
June 5th, 2013, 4:06 pm
Syrialover said:
Hezbollah’s prostitutes couldn’t sink lower serving their bosses in Iran.
These two photos are a shameful contrast.
1. Qusair in 2006: placards by local people supporting Lebanon.
2. Southern Beirut celebrating the “fall of Qusair”
https://twitter.com/Maysaloon/status/342265465529319424/photo/1
June 5th, 2013, 4:07 pm
Tara said:
Syrialover,
Let them. They are showing the world who they really are.
ويمد للظالمين مدا ويأخذهم أخذ عزيز مقتدر
June 5th, 2013, 4:20 pm
Syrialover said:
Here’s Hezbollah for the history books.
Quote: Hezbollah is leveraging their popularity, which was acquired while supposedly fighting for the human rights of Palestinians, to help perpetuate the slaughter of Syrians seeking those same human rights.
“How the ‘Resistance’ Conspired Against Qusair”
Early on in the revolution in Syria, Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah’s secretary general, voiced his support for the Assad regime. Many in Arab nations who were staunch Hezbollah supporters on the basis of its commitment to the idea of ‘resistance’ were shocked. Hezbollah: the same organization that was outraged by the Israeli murder of Muhammad Al Durrah in Palestine was now condoning the torture of children in Syria at the hands of the ‘resistance’. The hypocrisy was blatant; and Syrians began to see the true face (or one of the many faces) of Hezbollah.
Even as Assad’s military – funded by Iran and armed by Russia – unleashed itself upon unarmed, peaceful demonstrators all over Syria, Hezbollah was providing his regime with something money cannot buy: the illusion of legitimacy amongst would-be ‘resistance’-minded Arabs. This is Hassan Nasrallah’s gift to Assad. And it keeps on giving.
The strategy was simple, with Iran’s money, Assad’s could outlast the rebels and their more limited financial resources. With Russia’s weapons, the regime drastically outguns the Free Syrian Army. And finally, with the open support of Hezbollah, Assad could convince much of the Arab world that his war is waged in the spirit of the ‘resistance’ Hezbollah has represented historically. It is a strategy designed to win both hearts and minds by appealing to a narrative that is easy to fall into given it’s familiarity in the region.
As Syrian state media spewed unsubstantiated claims about Western involvement in Syria, the zealots went to work on social media spreading misinformation spoon fed to them through political propaganda channels. Everything constructed to play on a regional predisposition to get behind any group that opposes foreign intervention in Syria.
Hezbollah is leveraging their popularity, which was acquired while supposedly fighting for the human rights of Palestinians, to help perpetuate the slaughter of Syrians seeking those same human rights. The hypocrisy of Hezbollah and its allies is a hallmark of the kind of corrupt doubletalk-for-the-highest-bidder that has been used to oppress the people of the Middle East for far too long.
As is too often the case throughout history, an organization created to liberate the oppressed has itself become a force for oppression. That said, it must also be said that it is never too late for the people who breathe life into groups like Hezbollah to see them for what they have become. From there, it is easy enough to withhold supporting sentiment, and thereby choke off the legitimacy an organization like this needs to survive.
http://racanarchy.com/2013/06/05/how-the-resistance-conspired-against-qusair/
June 5th, 2013, 4:22 pm
Syrialover said:
Interesting insight into Iraqi fighting forces in Syria:
http://jihadology.net/2013/06/03/hizballah-cavalcade-kataib-sayyid-al-shuhada-another-supplier-of-iraqi-shia-fighters-in-syria/
June 5th, 2013, 4:26 pm
Syrialover said:
TARA #430,
Significantly Hezbollah are showing not just what they are, but what they are NOT – they have defrauded the Arab world and been playing a sinister and shabby lie.
They have no future and their “glorious” past is being erased.
June 5th, 2013, 4:34 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
Opposition enjoys the support of Syrian Turkmans( less than 1% of Syrians).Very
Important headline by JL.
June 5th, 2013, 4:36 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
So is god supporting Alnusra,FSA,HA or SAA?
If you know the answer please provide evidence.
If god was supporting Alnusra then why did they lose in Alquseer,Was he عزيز ومقتدر against them?
June 5th, 2013, 4:43 pm
Tara said:
Syrialover@431
Very well put.
HA has dug its own grave by becoming a tool of oppression. They have killed the same people who hosted them in 2006. What a shame!!!
Inshallah their end is soon.
June 5th, 2013, 4:49 pm
Uzair8 said:
Assad has majority support? Something just isn’t right.
Why can he not recruit from the Syrian population, the majority of whom apparently support him, instead of depending on Iranians/Hezbo/Iraqi’s etc?
Presumably the majority of Sunnis support the regime. Also the minorities. You even had top Sunni scholar, the late Dr Buti (ra), announcing that the regime fighters were like the Blessed Companions (RA). Even the Sunni Mufti of Syria announced Jihad on behalf of the regime. All of the above a regime recruitment sergeants wildest dream come true.
I scratch my head. There must be an explanation? Why the failure to recruit from within the population (23 million people)? There shouldn’t even be a need for Iranians/Hezbo and co to come to the regimes rescue.
June 5th, 2013, 4:51 pm
Citizen said:
http://youtu.be/fcq1an8cerM?t=1m35s
June 5th, 2013, 4:54 pm
Syrialover said:
# 420. Uzair8
Without massive foreign assistance and advice Assad would have been gone within weeks, maybe even without a struggle.
As Syrian-hater Bashar Assad struggled to perform as “leader” his foreign conspirators have taken an increasingly open role in helping smash up Syria and conquering the territory Iran is out to control.
The true agenda and legacy of the Assad regime now exposed and being played out.
June 5th, 2013, 4:56 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Assad machavelism is working 100 %. Now murder supoorters of this decaying regime will rejoice in the excrements of Syria while people who bears the flag of freedom are buried, tortured underground, exiled abroad or simply disappeared under ruins of russian scud hit bulidngs.
Great job Assad, now the hatred for the following 50 years has been planted.
Now I think we can be sure that all sons of Bashar Al Assad will die one after another by violent death.
June 5th, 2013, 4:58 pm
majoos said:
The Sunnis ought to clearly distance themselves from Salafism, otherwise the newly awaked Shiites will have no mercy with them.
Salafist nowadays are in the eyes of Shiites the same forces who killed the Prophets family.
And Saudi Arabia, the state which build a public toilet house on the birth house of the prophet in Mekka is the next on their list.
All moderate Sunnis will be pardoned but the decandants of the murderers of the family of the prophet will all perish.
“The Prophet’s birthplace was turned into a library and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, was replaced with a public toilet block.”
http://rt.com/news/saudi-arabia-prophet-mosque-615/
June 5th, 2013, 4:59 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
437. Citizen
I find that the heading of this news, if you wanna call it news, is deeply stupid and non sense. How can russian and iranian try to copy CNN and BBC if they are 1000 years light from any thing that is similar to democracy?
It sad but but so ridiculous that it makes me laugh.
June 5th, 2013, 5:03 pm
Uzair8 said:
438. Syrialover
I’m interested in hearing an explanation from regimists otherwise people will come to the logical conclusion that the regime doesn’t have the support of the population as claimed by the regime and it’s supporters.
Regimists wouldn’t want that now would they?
June 5th, 2013, 5:08 pm
Tara said:
World must act over Syria chemical weapons – Hollande
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22789455
French President Francois Hollande has said the growing proof of chemical weapons use in Syria “obliges the international community to act”.
However, Mr Hollande cautioned: “We can only act within the framework of international law”.
He spoke hours after Syrian government forces retook full control of the strategic western town of Qusair, after a siege lasting more than two weeks.
On Tuesday, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius revealed that samples taken from locations of alleged chemical weapon attacks in Syria, including Saraqeb and Jobar, and brought to France had tested positive for the nerve agent, sarin.
Mr Fabius said he had “no doubt” that sarin had been used by “the Syrian regime and its accomplices”, but did not specify instances of its use. The US says more proof is needed.
The rebels said they withdrew overnight in the face of a massive assault.
The previously bustling town where 30,000 people once lived is now in ruins, with not one building visible that escaped the intense fighting, reports the BBC’s Lyse Doucet, who was taken to Qusair by the Syrian army.
June 5th, 2013, 5:10 pm
Dawoud said:
441. MAJOOS
The Shias ought to distance themselves from Iran’s Wilayet al-Faqih ideology, which supports a murderous dictator because he is an Alawi killing the majority Sunnis. They should also distance themselves from Iran’s Lebanese Shia puppet, the terrorist Hizb—, which is invading Syria to kill Sunnis on behalf of the non-Arab Iran!
Free Syria, Free Palestine!
June 5th, 2013, 5:12 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
444 TARA
Yes, world must act but nobody will act.
June 5th, 2013, 5:14 pm
majoos said:
Muslims don t have nationalities. Iraniasn, Kurds, Arabs, Turks are all one nation. There are the ones who hold to the martyres of Kerbala and the ones who fallowed the fraction of Abu Sufyan.
Why do you think that the Shiites even though they were marginalized, killed and tortured throughout the centuries did not give up on the Ahlu Bait?
They could ve easily “converted”.
They waited for that what is unfolding before our eyes. The true Islam is on his way and the entire Middle East will be a shinning example for the entire mankind.
June 5th, 2013, 5:19 pm
Dawoud said:
I just want to add that now the Shia Lebanese terrorist Hizb is occupying al-Qasir, and it MUST CONTINUOUSLY defend it. It is in the long term a losing battle for the proxy Iranian invaders!
How could Shias say “Yes, al-Hussein” “لبيك يا حسين”to commend his standing up to the Ummayad emerging HEREDITARY dictatorship While supporting Bashar’s more brutal HEREDITARY dictatorship?!!!! I guess Shia sectarianism and Taqiah is blinding Iran’s and Hizb’s soul!
June 5th, 2013, 5:19 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
The head of Assad would mean the end of Iranistan in Syria and Lebanon. This would lead to an overwhelming real and democratic majority of Syria and Lebanon against shia rule and Israel politics. This would lead to huge problems for Israel´s legitimacy and reactivation and spread of popular movements. Is this why Israel and US protect Assad? Or just for letting Iran keeping the oil rates over 100 $?
June 5th, 2013, 5:21 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Defending the killing of people is admitted in this SC but not insults. I cannot understand it. Definetely no.
If we wish to kill all the rebels we don´t dehumanize them but if we insult the whole group of rebels then we cross the red line by dehumanizing them. Same for the Shia protomartyrs. Frankly I find it out of any rational explanation.
June 5th, 2013, 5:31 pm
majoos said:
We are only talking about 2000 Hezbullah fighters in Kusair the rest 20.000 are Syrian of all sects. I don t quite understand why you think it s O.K for Chechens, Tunesians, Lybians, French and British to fight on the side of the takfiris but have such a problem that Lebaneese who live less than 50 miles away enter the war?
The sunni sects lost grounds to the satanist takfiris and is therefore discredited also in the eyes of most sunni adherents.
You will see that in the near future a massive wave of new converts to shiism will occur.
June 5th, 2013, 5:31 pm
revenire said:
Ha ha it is called hypocrisy. To them any foreign terrorists killing Syrian soldiers, police and civilians is okay but invited Hezbollah fighters makes them angry.
I think it is funny.
June 5th, 2013, 5:35 pm
Tara said:
Majoos,
Looking for someone like you for the longest time..
Educate us.
How is Shiism is true Islam? What is its creed?
June 5th, 2013, 5:39 pm
revenire said:
Racan? LOL he is from the USA. He went to Aleppo and found Somali jihadis manning checkpoints. That didn’t bother him.
He has nothing to say.
Seriously, this American from New Jersey is writing a blog about the war? He should go fight if he feels so strongly. I am sure he could meet Hezbollah fighters if he wanted to. No problemo.
He’s funny.
From the look of him he’s lost the war with food.
June 5th, 2013, 5:40 pm
majoos said:
As far as I understand you have to be clearly-hearted to be open to the message of true Islam. And from what I can tell by reading your comments the past months you will need some time soul-searching.
June 5th, 2013, 5:43 pm
revenire said:
Tara people can believe what they like when it comes to religion or politics.
This is not a Sunni vs Shia war although some want that to happen.
Bigotry is uncalled for. Religious bigotry is always bad. I can see ridiculing a cult like Takfiris etc. but not mainstream religion.
Many are upset over Qusayr. I won’t rub it in any longer today. Besides the job isn’t done. The terrorists left many IEDs etc. and our boys have a lot of work ahead.
Hopefully Aleppo will be free soon and we can get back to love instead of hate.
June 5th, 2013, 5:44 pm
zoo said:
Qatar is furious of the defeat of his militia in Al Qusayr!
Arab League condemns Hezbollah’s role in Syria
Published: 06.05.13, 23:54 / Israel News
The Arab League on Wednesday condemned the military intervention in Syria by the Lebanese Shiite militant group Hezbollah, Arab League Secretary General Nabil Elaraby said.
…
A resolution issued after a meeting of Arab League foreign ministers in Cairo expressed “strong condemnation” of all forms of foreign intervention, especially that by Hezbollah, he said.
June 5th, 2013, 5:46 pm
ghufran said:
Hadi alabdallah reported from Qsair, the video is available on askalser website. The outrage over the loss of lives is totally justified, however, many of us on this site said from the day one that the so-called FOS are mostly interested in weakening Iran and will only act if they think that their side is winning, they are not programmed to act to save lives, when a rebel movement was started to “protect civilians” and was built around the idea of removing a regime and its army by force that movement should be ready to:
1. protect the civilians instead of using residential areas as operations bases then show the world that civilians were actually injured.
2. accept counter violence as part of warfare
Clean wars only exist in video games, the idea of taking up arms to launch proactive attacks on Syrian cities and state forces, as bad as those forces are, was wrong from the beginning especially after those attacks were not directed at culprits and master thugs (who remain largely safe and immune), what rebels managed to do instead is to invite more violence and destruction, increase divisions among Syrians and kill tens of thousands of foot soldiers who fought on behalf of the regime ,not to mention innocent civilians who vanished because they were at the wrong place at the wrong time.
This war needs to stop, violence will only brings more violence, I am not sure this simple message is finding any welcoming ear.
June 5th, 2013, 5:47 pm
Tara said:
Majoos,
Hehe. You couldn’t answer a simple question.
You said Shiism is the true Islam. I simply asked how? You couldn’t come up with any answer.
May I suggest you go and play somewhere else. You are wasting our time.
The sandbox in the corner park?
June 5th, 2013, 5:49 pm
majoos said:
@Tara
True Islam is definitely not what the Saudis are doing with razing the tomb of the Prophet in Mecca or turning his house into a public toilet.
It s self evident.
So any movement which is financed and supported by this gouvernment can t be true muslims but rather the exact opposite.
Fighting the enemies of Islam is the duty of every muslim.
June 5th, 2013, 5:50 pm
majoos said:
@Tara
Miss center of attention
Not leaving me even 10 min to answer your question withut wedding in your pants, there is a lot of literature open to educate yourself.
How often have I asked you questions you didn t answer?
June 5th, 2013, 5:53 pm
zoo said:
Gul or Erdogan Turkey president in 2014?
Erdo-gone? After Taksim, Turkish Leader’s Political Future May Hang in the Balance
Over the course of the protests, however, Gul has made it clear that he and the Prime Minister have drifted apart. When Erdogan insisted in an interview that people should exercise their democratic rights at the ballot box and not on the streets, Gul, within hours, retorted that democracy consisted of more than elections. Perhaps it was no coincidence that, after the President’s remarks, the news networks — previously cowed into a blackout — began covering the protests around the clock.
While the protests are yet to acquire the kind of critical mass that would force Erdogan to even consider stepping down as Prime Minister, the next few days may be crucial to his hopes of winning the presidency next year. “If he comes back from Africa, takes a conciliatory tone, he may have time to bounce back,” says Kınıklıoğlu.
Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/06/04/erdo-gone-after-taksim-turkish-leaders-political-future-may-hang-in-the-balance/#ixzz2VNio4n23
June 5th, 2013, 6:01 pm
Tara said:
Majoos, @461
Take all your time and when ready come back and answer that very simple question. What in term of creed that makes Shiism the true Islam?
Miss Centre of Attention.
June 5th, 2013, 6:06 pm
zoo said:
Expert” he Syrian opposition has lost the momentum,
France says it has proof that chemical weapons are being used in Syria, the so-called “red line” the United States warned would force it to take action.
But now the Obama administration says it needs more information, and may be wishing it could take back those bold words.
Otago University international relations expert Robert Patman says the Syrian opposition has lost the momentum, and support from Russia and Hezbollah has strengthened the regime’s control of the country.
Watch the video for the full interview with Dr Patman.
Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Syrian-opposition-has-lost-momentum—expert/tabid/417/articleID/300462/Default.aspx#ixzz2VNkErGac
June 5th, 2013, 6:06 pm
majoos said:
Will “mullah” Erdogan be displaced by the Alevite Kilicdaroglu (CHP)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_K%C4%B1l%C4%B1%C3%A7daro%C4%9Flu
“His father was among thousands of exiled Alevis following the failed Dersim Rebellion.”
June 5th, 2013, 6:07 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
I do not think we cannot talk about a true Islam as we cannot talk about a true christianism. Mohammad was probably of Christian or jewish ancestors and Jesus lived and died as a jew. The only real monotheism strictu sensu is judaism, that is a religión based on the negation of the others and the destruction of their neighbours to the roots. The Bible is basically a genocidal book talking about holocaust done by jewish to their neighbours.
If we took this as a basis we can consider all types of monotheism are basically evil and cause to many religión wars, from the Bible to the Fall of Rome, and from The Crusades to the Arab-Israeli wars.
In this case Christian and Islamic heresies are nothing else tan mistakes of previous mistakes.
True is not nice. Take it easy.
June 5th, 2013, 6:07 pm
majoos said:
@Tara
Among other things it s the question of his successor and the special position of the descendants of the Prophet (as you probably know)
But there are many other aspects, e.g the dietry laws. Shias are not allowed to consume rabbit nor shell fish nor….(pretty simmilar to kashrut laws.
Shia teachings differ in terms of eschatology, “life after death” ….
As I said there is plenty of information out in the web for you to inform you. I m not here to protelyse neither was it ever the aim of Shias to violently protelyse non-believers.
June 5th, 2013, 6:16 pm
majoos said:
Further reading suggestions:
Ebionite Christians vs. Pauline Christians.
Ebionite influence on mMhammed.
Khadija, Mohammeds wife, was the cousin of the Ebionite high priest Warraqa ibn Nawfal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waraka_ibn_Nawfal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites
June 5th, 2013, 6:20 pm
Tara said:
Majoos,
Come on now!
Prohibiting eating rabbit or shrimp makes Shiism the true Islam?
Or even designating Muhammad successor to be Ali as opposed to others makes it the true religion?
Do you really believe that the culinary habits or heirs designee has anything to do with creed?
Hasn’t occurred to you that it was god will to have Abu baker succeeds Muhammed? Not that I care who was it but if Allah wanted Ali to be the immediate successor why did Allah delayed him?
Again, you are free to believe in anything. All I wanted to know is to why you said it is the true Islam?
June 5th, 2013, 6:30 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
MAJOOS,
Forget about your true Islam, all of that are empty words, and worse thing is that you know it perfectly. You can cheat yourself but do not try to cheat others. We are talking about something serious which is human rights and politics, not about your personal religious problems. Forget religión and think right (maybe Mohammad or Jesus dixit)
Can you also academically explain Zeynab, Roqayya, Khawla and others. hahahhahahahha This is a real fiasco.
June 5th, 2013, 6:36 pm
majoos said:
Shiites don t regard themselves as the true branch of Islam but rather the true religion of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed.
Following the dietry laws which were revealed by those is an integral part of following Gods commandments.
But if it doesn t occur to you it s fine and as I said I ll tollerate it and won t try to lecture you.
But you ve to understand that Shiites can t stand still and watch how Mohammeds testimony is perverted by takfiris who as stated before raze his house and tomb in Mecca to build a public toilet on its grounds.
June 5th, 2013, 6:37 pm
revenire said:
Putin just said he hopes there will be no cannibals at Geneva 2.
“Russian President Vladimir Putin has stated that given the latest revelation that the armed Syrian ‘opposition’ has cannibals in its ranks, as shown from Abu Saqqar’s video ripping out the heart and lung of a dead Syrian soldier and eating them, he expressed concern that he cannot guarantee the safety of his participating delegation. He expressed reservation about his country’s participation given that the Syrian opposition includes people such as Abu Saqqar.”
Ha ha gotta love that guy.
June 5th, 2013, 6:44 pm
Majoos said:
@Sandro Loewe
You re fooling yourself when you think that oil money, human rights, politics or facebook are the driving forces behind the current happenings in the Middle East.
It s just religion and the underlaying messianic currents.
Why do think well do to french Jews give up their middle or upper class existences in order to move in to baracks in the holy land.
Or why did the appearently anti-iranian US gouvernment topple the Saddam dictatorship and had it replaced by a pro-iranian Shiite gouvernment. Even a B.A junior strategiest would know that such a scenario would unfold?
Or why is it that the US dedicated new holiday, Education Day, to the former Chabad leader Shneerson, who claimed to be the Messiah?
http://www.forbes.com/2008/10/26/obama-iran-ahmadinejad-oped-cx_at_1026taheri.html
June 5th, 2013, 6:45 pm
revenire said:
Syria: Assad’s rearmed and regrouped forces sense turn of the tide
Russian rockets, western indecision and now a key military defeat have left Syria’s rebels on the defensive
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/05/syria-president-assad-forces-qusair
June 5th, 2013, 6:54 pm
Tara said:
Majoos,
I am not asking you to comment on what Saudis have or haven’t done with Mohammad’ tomb. I am simply asking you what in the Shiaa creed that made you proclaim it as the true Islam.
To rephrase, I am asking a question in theology. What is it in the Shiaa belief structure that differs from Sunnis that qualifies it to be the true religion. Food? Status of Ali?
Sorry, culinary habits does not make the cut for me. Who came first and who came last 16 century ago does not make the cut either. Anything else I should know about?
And it could not be more stupider to have a Shiaa-Sunni fighting over what animals to eat.
June 5th, 2013, 6:54 pm
majoos said:
@tara
Are you that blind?
Keeping to dietry laws has nothing to do with culinary habits. Who came first and who came last is not only a central momentum of the emergence of Shiitism it s the reason of the matrydom of Shiism which is a central aspect of the the Shiite fold. Please take your time to inform you un such matters especially on the meaning of Kerbalah.
Above mentioned points are all theological differences.
Let me ask you now, do you think that there is acctually no differnce at all between Sunnis and Shiites?
June 5th, 2013, 7:03 pm
majoos said:
Another theological difference is the theme of the occultation of the 12th imam, Imam Mahdi.
The supreme leader, Khamenei, called an all believers that they should prepare for his arrival very soon.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/194238-khamenei-prepare-end-time.html
June 5th, 2013, 7:15 pm
Tara said:
Majoos,
“Who came first and who came last is not only a central momentum of the emergence of Shiitism it s the reason of the matrydom of Shiism which is a central aspect of the the Shiite fold.”
You are in essence telling me that Shiism has emerged to deal and judge with who came first and who came second and the concept of martyrdom in Shiism is present because of what happened in Karbalaa.
I have always perceived religion as an interpretation of God not a perception of worldly matters. Was this an admittance that the whole creed of Shiism is formed not out of an attempt to interpret God rather out of concern of who the heir was?
Additionally, martyrdom is when you sacrifice yourself towards achieving the good for others not to sacrifice oneself out of revenge and grudges stemming from a historical
grievance.
A disclaimer: I know I am now walking a fine line . This was prompted by your assertion that Shiism is the true Islam and out of my curiosity to understand if there is a merit to your proclamation. I have learned to show respect to people rituals and this was certainly not an attempt to the contrary. It was an honest attempt to understand the rational behind your thinking.
June 5th, 2013, 7:29 pm
Observer said:
This the grinding of the forces of HA and Iran in Syria. Let them have a day here and there but the reality is that they will be fighting for the next 10 years and come out exhausted and wasted.
Not for the sake of the people but for the sake of safeguarding interests.
Sykes Picot is being destroyed in front of our eyes and I see the disintegration of the region.
The new war is a 30-50 year war between the sects. the region needs a complete overhaul.
Next is Lebanon and hopefully Jordan. Then only fanatics will remain standing and they can slug it out.
June 5th, 2013, 7:34 pm
Tara said:
Majoos,
Sunnis believe it is Jesus Christ who is going to come at the end. The Shiaa believe that the Mahdi is going to come. What is going to happen after Imam Mahdi comes?
Also how does Khamenei know? Does he get any revelation from God? Does the shiaa believe that Muhamad was the last prophet? Why is wali al Faqih not Arab? Can he be an Arab? Who are the twelvers? Do they have any divinity? Does Khamenei has any divinity?
June 5th, 2013, 7:37 pm
majoos said:
@Tara
Obviously this momentum which lies in the Shiite teaching is so strong that despite being persecuted throughout the centuries hasn t caused them to loose their faith.
I did t make up the basic tenets so it doesn t really help to mock me, don t blame the messenger!
“I have learned to show respect to people rituals”
You cannot expect Shiites to show respect for Wahabi rituals as razing the houses and tombs of the people their religion is based on nor the rituals of having suicide attackers blowing themselves up in Nadjav and Kerbala a dozend times a year.
June 5th, 2013, 7:40 pm
majoos said:
@Tara
Khamenei is actually a Sayeed, that s why he wears a black turban as Nasrallah, as Musa Sadr and Chomeinei that means that they are of the lineage of the Prophet of Mohammed. They regard themselves as Arabs of the tribe of Qureish and can be therefore regarded as Arabs.
Even more Arabs than the Arabized Lybians, Egyptians, Marrocans, Tunesians or even most people in present day Syria who are of differnt stocks, like Assyrian, Aramean…..
Shiites believe in that Imam Mahdi coming will prelude Jesus coming!
June 5th, 2013, 7:47 pm
zoo said:
The USA, the EU and the international community should say Thank you to the heroic SAA and Hezbollah fighters. They have contributed to the weakening of the scourge invading the Middle East
Majority of foreign fighters recently killed in Syria linked to front group for Al Qaeda
By Catherine Herridge
Published June 05, 2013
FoxNews.com
The majority of foreign fighters killed in Syria between July 2012 and May of this year were found to be fighting on behalf of a terrorist group that’s a front for Al Qaeda in Iraq, according to a new independent report by a security consulting firm that specializes in counterterrorism.
The report found at least 280 foreign fighters died in that time period.
Drawing on social media data, traditional media and internet platforms, the report called “Convoy of Martyrs in the Levant” by Flashpoint Global Partners concludes that the Syrian conflict is now drawing jihadiist fighters from the U.S., Chechnya, Kosovo, Egypt, Gaza, Jordan, Tunisia, Libya and Saudi Arabia.
“..The lion’s share of foreign fighters who are dying in Syria are fighting with the most hardline organization involved in the uprising: Jabhat al-Nusra,” the report said.;“The leader of Jabhat al-Nusra, Abu Mohammed al-Joulani, has recently publicly sworn allegiance to Al Qaeda leader Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri and the group has been blacklisted as a branch of Al Qaeda in Iraq by the United State
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/05/mmajority-foreign-fighters-recently-killed-in-syria-linked-to-front-group-for/#ixzz2VO9wWwhA
June 5th, 2013, 7:50 pm
majoos said:
@Tara
The Imamat, or belief in the divine guide is a fundamental belief in Shi’i Islam and is based on the concept that God would not leave humanity without access to divine guidance.
According to Twelvers, there is always an Imam of the Age, who is the divinely appointed authority on all matters of faith and law in the Muslim community
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelvers#The_concept_of_Imams
June 5th, 2013, 7:50 pm
Tara said:
Majoos@ 482
Where did I mock you? I am asking sincere questions.
I just want genuine answers and I do not really care who respect what. You are free to respect or disrespect anything you want.
June 5th, 2013, 7:52 pm
Tara said:
Majoos@482
I am not clear. How a “Sayed” get identified? At birth? Can Hassan Nasralla be a Sayed and his brother not? I mean if Hassan has the prophet genetic lineage, it should follow that Hassan and all his family members are the prophet lineage too. Does it work that way?
June 5th, 2013, 8:02 pm
Tara said:
486. TARA said:
*YOUR COMMENT IS AWAITING MODERATION.*
Majoos@482
I am not clear. How a “Sayed” get identified? At birth? Can Hassan Nasralla be a Sayed and his brother not? I mean if Hassan has the prophet genetic lineage, it should follow that Hassan and all his family members are the prophet lineage too. Does it work that way?
June 5th, 2013, 8:03 pm
majoos said:
@Tara
Do you think that the West tricked the Salafis from the begin with and never really had the intention of helping them?
Do you think that the Emir of Qatar has some sort of a “secret agreement” with Assad which could also be the reason why Assad didn t disown Qatars possessions in Syria, among other things vast amount of real estates.
Could this also be the reason why the Emir bankrolled the most backward and radical currents in the Uprising to delegitimize the entire revolt?
Are Iran and Israel really enemies or are they only fooling the Saudis/Erdogan?
June 5th, 2013, 8:07 pm
Tara said:
Majoos@484
So Muhammad is not the last prophet? Muhamad in Islam is a human who received the divine massage (Quraan) nothing more nothing less. How are the Twelvers differ than Muhammad if they receive divine communications.
June 5th, 2013, 8:09 pm
majoos said:
Yes Sayeed refers to all male descendants of Hueseyin wheras a female descendant is denoted as a Sayeeda.
Sharif refers to male descendants of Hasan, as for ex. King Abdullah of Jordan.
June 5th, 2013, 8:12 pm
Dawoud said:
TARA SAYs: “Also how does Khamenei know? Does he get any revelation from God? Does the shiaa believe that Muhamad was the last prophet? Why is wali al Faqih not Arab? Can he be an Arab? Who are the twelvers? Do they have any divinity? Does Khamenei has any divinity?”
TARA, I had classes with Iranians and I read about Iranian society/politics. Anti-Arab racism is so widespread that it has become an epidemic. Many of them consider us “inferior” and “uncivilized!” Even those in the Wilayet al-Faqih universe in Lebanon, Iraq, and Bahrain think that Arabs are “inferior.” Just watch the Wilayet al-Faqih Media (al-Manar, al-Alam, al-Akhbar, etc.).
If they were “good” Muslims as they claim, they would have paid attention to Prophet Muhammad had said: “ان الله أعز الاسلام بالعرب, وأعز العرب بألاسلام” “God has made Islam victories with Arabs, and has made Arabs victorious with Islam!” Those anti-Arab racists who claim to be “good” Muslims should also realize that the Qur’an that they read is in Arabic. Prophet Muhammad and his cousin Imam Ali were also Arabs. I am not saying this to proclaim Arab superiority, but rather to denounce the Wilayet al-faqih racism.
We see this Iranian and Shia Wilayet al-Faqih racism on display in a destructive fashion in Syria! For example, a person who is designated as a chief terrorist (Hasan Nasr of the terrorist Lebanese Shia party, the Hizb@@@) thinks that he could designate as “terrorists” and “takfiris” Syrians who are defending their towns, lives, dignity, and future! What an arrogant/false sense of racist Wilayet al-faqih superiority!
June 5th, 2013, 8:12 pm
zoo said:
As days pass, the opposition is getting weaker and weaker.
If they drag their feet further, there will be nobody from the opposition to attend the conference except the military warlords who have not publicly declared that they won’t if Bashar is still in power. Who are they?
In any case, the crumbling ‘Coalition’ promised to elect a new president to replace the hysterical Sabra and decide if Hitto should go back to Texas or not. All this is supposed to happen on “the 12th june at the lastest”
Good luck…
June 5th, 2013, 8:21 pm
Observer said:
So what is victory? Staying in power over a ruin? Yes that is winning.
It is great that the sectarians are winning. It is great that the current leaders of the sects on both sides are so incompetent and criminal. It is great to see the failure of the MB in Egypt and Syria and Lebanon and the failure of HA and Iran and Velayet e Faqih and Ahmadinejjad and Putin and France and the UK and US in all of this.
The winners are Israel and the fanatics left on the ground.
Hehehehe great ongoing destruction of the Sykes Picot. Not in a nice way unfortunately but it is over.
I love it when Zoo talks of the opposition. Does he think that the regime is better? Of course it uses an inferiority complexed pseudo modern iPad using internet shopping garbage for its leader.
Driving a Panamera does not make one human.
Who cares? Let them slug it out.
June 5th, 2013, 8:22 pm
Tara said:
Majoos,
So if we ask Khamenei if he is an Arab or a Persian, what would he answer ?
June 5th, 2013, 8:23 pm
Tara said:
Majoos @488
I do not believe any relation exists between the salafists and the west, Israel and Iran, Assad and Qatar…
June 5th, 2013, 8:28 pm
zoo said:
Exceptional photos of the “woman in red” and the riots in Gezi Park.
Horrifying image of ‘woman in red’ being doused with pepper spray becomes symbol of Turkish protests
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2335924/Turkey-Protests-Horrifying-image-woman-red-doused-pepper-spray-symbol-Turkish-protests.html#ixzz2VOKWWo2u
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June 5th, 2013, 8:29 pm
majoos said:
@Tara
HIs father is even claimed to be an Azeri (Turk).
“Khamenei is of ethnic Iranian Azerbaijani origin[17][18][19][20][21] while one source asserts that his mother was a Yazd-native Iranian.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Khamenei
But I would think that he would avoid to tell you an answer to this question and would rather define himself as a muslim
June 5th, 2013, 8:31 pm
Tara said:
Majoos,
How can he be Turk /Azerbaijani /Persian etc if he is the prophet lineage? And his father was a sayed too right?
June 5th, 2013, 8:39 pm
Tara said:
Majoos,
Are you shiaa Arab or shiaa Persian?
June 5th, 2013, 8:41 pm
Observer said:
No one from the West is coming for the help of the people. Russia is just making and scoring points. Iran wants a regional role in the end all the condemnations and pronouncements by Hollande and Hague and Obama and Putin mean nothing. Russia wants to prove an Iraq in reverse. If you change regime I will preserve one says Putin.
In the end, the people will learn to rely on themselves. Every body is playing dirty and I like the final effect: destruction of Sykes Picot. Balkanization of the region. Defeat of ALL the current ideologies.
It is dishonest to equate the regime with the opposition. It never wanted to use force but force was used on it from the beginning.
I wonder if those that do this equation would stand still and continue to protest in silence when MRL are used on their homes.
Celebrating victory in Dahieh indeed. The ultimate in stupidity.
They think that Israel is worried. Yeah right worried indeed.
Three weeks to take a town of 50 000 with less than 2000 rebel fighters with light weapons is a victory indeed. Only in the eyes of its mother does a monkey look like a gazelle
Hehehehe
June 5th, 2013, 8:42 pm
Observer said:
How can you have this TOZ wanting to look like a MARHABA. A woman in red doused with pepper spray; in contrast to burning children alive and slit women’t throats and using massive bombing. No shame indeed and stupidity on top of it.
Go have some pepper flakes on your Pizza.
June 5th, 2013, 8:46 pm
majoos said:
I m neither persian nor arab. as I wrote some posts ago my family is from turkey. And we also don t adhere to a religion.
June 5th, 2013, 8:47 pm
Tara said:
So why did you call yourself majoos?
June 5th, 2013, 8:56 pm
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
Halabiyeh: Reviving the Spirit of Aleppo
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/halabiyeh-reviving-the-spirit-of-aleppo/
June 5th, 2013, 8:57 pm
Dawoud said:
The only thing more fake than his dyed hair (and maybe face lift) is his justification for the Lebanese terrorist party’s invasion of Syria: Hizbistan’s foreign minister Adnan Mansour (the guy with the dyed hair and face lift) “justifies” the Lebanese terrorist intervention in Syria. What has happened to Lebanon’s “neutrality?”
وزير خارجيه حزبستان عدنان منصور ذو الشعر المسبوغ والوجه المشدود (شو حلو) يناقض سياسه النأي بألنفس اللبنانيه
🙂 🙂
http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/arab-and-world/syria/2013/06/06/%D9%88%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%AD%D8%B2%D8%A8-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87-%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B5%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A%D9%8A%D9%86-.html
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دافع وزير الخارجية والمغتربين اللبناني الدكتور عدنان منصور عن تدخل قوات حزب الله في معرك القصير بسوريا، واعتبر أن “حزب الله لم يقاتل في حلب أو درعا أو دير الزور أو إدلب أو القامشلي”.
وأشار إلى أن وجود ثلة من مجموعاته في ريف القصير إنما هو عمل وقائي واستباقي لحماية أهلهم وأقربائهم وأبنائهم من اللبنانيين في مواجهة المجموعات المسلحة، التي أرادت أن تجعل منهم فريسة للخطف والابتزاز والقتل، مثلما حصل لإخوانهم الزوار اللبنانيين العزل الذين مضى على اختطافهم في منطقة اعزاز (شمالي حلب) أكثر من عام، ومثلما حصل
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June 5th, 2013, 9:05 pm
majoos said:
@498. TARA said:
Majoos,
How can he be Turk /Azerbaijani /Persian etc if he is the prophet lineage? And his father was a sayed too right?
It s similar to e.g. Henry Kissinger, he is American of German decent but also Jewish, meaning somehow also of hebrew descent.
Got to go, keep asking, all questions will be answered tomorrow!
June 5th, 2013, 9:05 pm
sf94123 said:
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June 5th, 2013, 9:14 pm
sf94123 said:
My 2 cents to Majoos
Tara is full of hate and revenge. Tara is HE not SHE called for the destruction of Syria and supported the killing of Syrians since March 2011. Zoo and many others tried hard to understand HIS position- Total Waste Of Time! HE should be brought to Justice soon. .DAWOUD, why don’t you take your Jihad to Palestine? Why are you here! Go free your land after you sold it to the Jews years ago!
June 5th, 2013, 9:15 pm
Ziad said:
Syria Media War – A Small Gift from Syrianews
USAians (US citizens) like to use the proverb ‘Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me‘, only in relations on personal levels, but when it comes to media or their governments manipulating them, they like to be fooled over and over again, endlessly.. How many times the US went to wars based on absolute lies? Want some hints? Iraq and the WMDs, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan and the war on terror for the revenge of the 3,000 plus killed in the Trade Center in the one million faulted claim and cost hundreds of thousands of lives since 12 years on in ensuing wars..
Watch the embedded video
http://www.syrianews.cc/syria-media-war-small-gift-syrianews/
June 5th, 2013, 9:39 pm
Dawoud said:
509. Ziad
The United States has NEVER gone to war against its own people since the Civil War. Conversely, the murderous Bashar al-Assad is waging a war against his own people. When the Syrian Revolution was completely peaceful for the first six month, wasn’t Der’ah teenage martyr Hamza al-Khateeb a Syrian? “a president who kills his own people is a TRAITOR!” الرئيس اللي بقتل شعبه خائن
June 5th, 2013, 10:41 pm
Ghufran said:
“It is dishonest to equate the regime with the opposition”
I agree. It is also dishonest to condemn hizbullah’s intervention in Q’sair while accepting foreign jihadists ( I am not suggesting that observer did that).
There is no reason to celebrate when Syrians die in vain, I am not even ready to celebrate the death of jihadists, most of whom were young men who could and should be at school or at work, this is a war ,my friends, do not expect dignified defeats or quiet victories, war brings out the animal inside each one of us, it is a reminder that most of us are sinners with different shades, it took the Lebanese 15 years to realize that what they did to themselves was stupid and criminal, let us hope that this war does not last that long.
June 5th, 2013, 10:54 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Dawoud’s Dream turns into a Nightmare NewZ
DAWOUD, why don’t you take your Jihad to Palestine? Why are you here! Go free your land after you sold it to the Jews years ago!
sf94123,
I spoke to Dawoud about this, and Dawoud told me that he spoke directly with Hezbollah and Bashar Assad and they both said, under no uncertain terms, that they would hand Palestine back to him on a silver platter in the very near furture. They said that this has been their MAIN priority for the past 40 years, and that unfortunately, this is the reason why free elections had to be placed on hold.
June 5th, 2013, 11:10 pm
don said:
Israeli judge girls “enjoy rape”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/05/us-israel-women-idUSBRE95419I20130605
June 5th, 2013, 11:20 pm
revenire said:
Al Qusayr | People Celebrating Victory
I pray for Syria’s complete Victory soon, and for our wonderful Army’s continued guidance and protection, Amen … – J
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a8b_1370457001
June 5th, 2013, 11:30 pm
revenire said:
Dave on the contrary the United States is at war with its own people right now. The people run nothing in the US. Wall St. does.
June 5th, 2013, 11:32 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Reverse,
For someone as critical of the US as you are, why do you live here?
June 5th, 2013, 11:49 pm
Ghufran said:
أبدى الأكراد السوريون تأييدهم لعقد مؤتمر جنيف 2 حول تسوية النزاع في سورية. واعلن الناطق باسم الهيئة الكردية العليا أحمد سليمان إنهم سيشاركون بوفد مستقل لأن المعارضة السورية غير موحدة. وقال سليمان في مؤتمر صحفي عقده بموسكو بعد لقائه والوفد المرافق له مع نائب وزير الخارجية الروسي ان “الوفد الكردي طالب بتمثيل الكرد في هذا المؤتمر بوفد مستقل لان المعارضة السورية غير موحدة، وهناك اطر متعددة من حقها جميعا المشاركة في المؤتمر”. واضاف ان “الوفد اكد ان الكرد هم من اكثر القوى تماسكا وتنظيما للمساهمة في انجاح المؤتمر لما فيه خدمة سورية وشعبها
Kurds will have a separate delegation to Geneva 2
June 5th, 2013, 11:50 pm
Syrialover said:
REVENIRE #454 you really have run out of puff. You must be relying on MAJOOS and the raving-weird SF94123 to keep the tattered fake flag flying.
You seem curiously obsessed and bothered by Racan Alhoch, the author of #431.
Is it that his essays are bit above your usual reading level? The quality and content of his writing is certainly way, way above your own efforts, despite the fact you are probably from a much older generation.
Yes he has been inside Syria recently and saw a lot. And he blew the whistle on the Somali jihadists, strongly objecting to their presence.
But you know all that because you are obsessed with him.
Others please note, Racan Alhoch’s blog on Syria is always fresh thinking, well written and very readable: http://racanarchy.com/
And his twitter is often cutting edge on developments: https://twitter.com/Racanarchy
June 5th, 2013, 11:50 pm
Juergen said:
Qusair has shown that this regime is only dependent on forein aid and direct interventions. The SAA wasnt able for months to take Qusair.
June 5th, 2013, 11:51 pm
Syrialover said:
REVENIRE #516
Syria’s not the only place you “don’t get”, we now see you have an equal problem comprehending America too.
June 6th, 2013, 12:00 am
ghufran said:
اعرب المفوض الاوروبي للموازنة يانوس ليفاندوفسكي عن اسفه لان الاتحاد الاوروبي لم يعد في وسعه دعم اللاجئين السوريين مالياً بسبب عجز موازنته
واوضح في تصريح ان “الامم المتحدة وجهت نداء لجمع ثلاثة بليونات يورو، والاتحاد الاوروبي لن يكون في وسعه تلبية النداء” بالمستوى المتوقع منه
وقال “لدينا اجتماع غداً في المفوضية وسنرى ما يمكننا فعله، لكنه سيكون ادنى بكثير مما تتوقع الامم المتحدة”.
The GCC and the EU among others, were too quick to impose sanctions on Syria and send weapons to rebels but when it came to humanitarian aid which does not pay political dividends FOS were only friends on paper.
June 6th, 2013, 12:11 am
Juergen said:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=373460532760103&set=a.135521173220708.22295.135403903232435&type=1&theater
June 6th, 2013, 12:38 am
ghufran said:
Dr Fayez Rashid-Palestine:
نود توجيه أسئلة للمسلحين من جبهة النصرة والسلفيين وكل المعنيين الآخرين، إذا كان هدفكم مثلما تقولون، اسقاط النظام السوري، فلماذا تقومون بطرد العزّل من الفلسطينيين من كل المخيمات الفلسطينيية على الأرض السورية، وعن بكرة أبيهم، وتمنعونهم من العودة؟ ولماذا تستبيحون المخيمات وتعتقلون وتقتلون وتختطفون الفلسطينيين الذين كان رأيهم وما يزالون ، النأي بأنفسهم عمّا يجري في سورية؟ لقد طالبوا ويطالبون بعدم الزج بهم في إطار الصراع الدائر في سورية. لقد قتلتم المئات من الفلسطينيين في المخيمات، وجرحتم الآلاف، واحتللتم وما تزالون مكاتب التنظيمات الفلسطينيية في المخيمات، ورفضتم وترفضون إخلاءها، ما الذي تريدونه؟ المعارضة السورية استضافت وفودا صحافية إسرائيلية لتغطي ما يجري على الأرض السورية! نحن لا نتهم، ولكن هؤلاء عادوا وكتبوا عن زياراتهم ، بالتالي لخدمة من يجري طرد الفلسطينيين من مخيماتهم؟
June 6th, 2013, 12:45 am
revenire said:
A 20-something year old guy living in his dad’s house in New Jersey is on the cutting edge of developments in Syria? LOL
June 6th, 2013, 1:18 am
Syrialover said:
#449. DAWOUD said: “the Shia Lebanese terrorist Hizb is occupying al-Qasir, and it MUST CONTINUOUSLY defend it. It is in the long term a losing battle for the proxy Iranian invaders”.
Yes, and now we hear that payback rockets fired by rebels in Syria are starting to fall on key Hezbollah town Baalbek in Lebanon.
Hezbollah’s backside is going to be blazing trying to deal with that while thousands of their fighters are off lining up as cannon fodder in Syria.
And this time there will be little help with reconstruction from Iran. There were strong domestic protests in Iran in 2006 when the Iranian government spent millions cleaning up after the Israeli destruction in Shia Lebanon.
We can expect with their sanction-crippled economy today Iranians would be protesting even more at the idea of national resources being squandered on Hizbollah communities while their own go without.
And anyway, Iran is now demanding and getting from Hizbollah what they have earlier paid for. Hizbollah lives have been bought very cheap by Teheran, and they won’t be bothering to waste more money on what’s left of Nasrullah’s kingdom when this is over.
June 6th, 2013, 1:23 am
Syrialover said:
REVENIRE, that’s right. Racan Alhoch provides much sounder and more relevant information on what’s happening than you and your buddies.
But then he’s an authentic person, not a hoax cyber persona like you.
June 6th, 2013, 1:31 am
revenire said:
SL he can be anything you want him to be. I was just commenting on what I saw on Twitter. Anyone can look at Twitter SL. You know that. Words stand or fall. If you enjoy them that is nice – please be my guest brother. I read his post today and felt it was ridiculous but you’re entitled to love it as you wish. Right?
I will tell you again: a 20-something living in his parent’s home in New jersey is clueless regarding Syria in my opinion. If you believe he is a doctor of Syrian history that is lovely.
What’s the big deal? On a forum we can state our views.
For example, my view is Qusayr is now free. You can call it a massacre or call it meaningless. No skin off my back.
Take care.
June 6th, 2013, 1:51 am
Syrialover said:
REVENIRE, Well maybe it would be good if you did pause and check out twitter and the rich flow of news and sources it highlights.
But I realise you don’t have time to read anything much, not even the posts here you robotically attack, you are too burdened with your commitment to taking space on this forum nonstop around the clock.
June 6th, 2013, 2:01 am
annie said:
June 6th, 2013, 2:17 am
Juergen said:
SAFE NO MORE
Syria: Attacks on Schools Endanger Students
Children Interrogated, Arrested; Schools Shelled
“The Syrian government has interrogated students and carried out violent assaults on their protests and military attacks on schools, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.Both government forces and opposition armed groups have used schools as military bases, barracks, detention centers, and sniper posts, turning places of learning into military targets and putting students at risk.”
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/06/05/syria-attacks-schools-endanger-students
33 page report :
http://www.hrw.org/node/115959/
June 6th, 2013, 2:35 am
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
Assad’s Foreign Jihadists and Mercenaries in Syria
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/assads-foreign-jihadists-and-mercenaries-in-syria/
June 6th, 2013, 2:53 am
Sam said:
I don’t believe anyone on this forum is a military strategist?? Who knows why they let them escape, the question is, they let them through a single corridor. An educated guess would say there was motive for it, for all you SAA haters, the rats that escaped were surely followed. Hopefully the rats will lead them back to their reinforcements that were allegedly coming. God bless the SAA and hizballa heroes! Onward and upward!!!
June 6th, 2013, 3:22 am
Mina said:
As usual, the FSA knows how to turn to Israel when it needs it
أعلن الجيش الاسرائيلي صباح اليوم 6 يونيو/حزيران أن قوات المعارضة السورية فرضت سيطرتها على منفذ القنيطرة في الجولان. وكانت وسائل إعلام اسرائيلية قد ذكرت في وقت سابق أن عدة قذائف سورية سقطت صباحا في الجولان، وقد أهابت تل أبيب بسكان المناطق القريبة عدم الاقتراب من المنفذ الحدودي المذكور. وأوضحت وسائل الإعلام أن إحدى القذائف سقطت على نقطة للأمم المتحدة في مدينة القنيطرة السورية على بعد مئات الأمتار من الجدار الفاصل. وذكرت إذاعة الجيش الاسرائيلي أن قوات الجيش السوري خاضت معارك شرسة مع المعارضة بالقرب من المعبر منذ فجر اليوم. هذا وذكر مراسل “روسيا اليوم” في اسرائيل أنه يسمع في المنطقة دوي انفجارات قوية. وكانت مصادر المعارضة قد افادت ان “الجيش الحر” سيطر صباح اليوم على بلدة القحطانية الحدودية في محافظة القنيطرة. من جانبه اعتبر المحلل السياسي عامر أرناؤوط في اتصال مع قناة “روسيا اليوم” أن سيطرة المعارضة المسلحة على معبر القنيطرة بالجولان هي خطوة دعائية وتساعد على رفع المعنويات بعد سقوط القصير. وأوضح أرناؤوط أن المعركة مستمرة حتى بعد سقوط القصير، وان ثمن هذا السقوط سيكون غالياً، خاصة بعد خروج الآلاف من المقاتلين إلى المناطق المحاذية للبنان.
http://arabic.rt.com/news/617577/ :روسيا اليوم
June 6th, 2013, 4:18 am
zoo said:
#520 Juergen
“Qusair has shown that this regime is only dependent on forein aid and direct interventions. The SAA wasnt able for months to take Qusair.”
It has also shown that the opposition ” is only dependent on forein aid and direct interventions” and without it, it is zero.
In addition this ‘foreign’ is full of agendas that change with the days.
June 6th, 2013, 6:55 am
Dawoud said:
513. AKBAR PALACE
I have always had nothing but resentment toward the murderous Bashar al-Assad and the hypocrite terrorist/Iranian puppet Hasan Nasr. Believe me, I have never “spoken” to them. If they “liberate” Palestine, then we need to liberate it from them. I have believed so even since 1976 (the year I was born) 🙂
No, I am not interested in “kicking out,” as you say “the Jews” from anywhere. They have the right to live and prosper even in Palestine, but Zionists have no right to occupy and colonize the Palestinians. I have told you that a two-state solution was ended by Israel’s settlement/colonization and a Palestinian state is not viable. The only solution now is a multi-national secular/democratic state for ALL, including correcting the injustice to the expelled/ethnically-cleansed Palestinians through the right of return.
June 6th, 2013, 7:00 am
zoo said:
The rebels seizing the “Golan Height crossing” may be a game changer for Israel.
It maybe be now convinced that it should allow Bashar Al Assad army to win over the rebels so as to avoid having to fight against Islamists…
Syrian rebels have captured a crossing point along a ceasefire line patrolled by UN troops between Syria and Israel, reports say.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/syria-rebels-take-golan-crossing-29325478.html
Colonel Michael Bauer of the Austrian defence ministry says the rebels fighting President Bashar Assad’s army captured the crossing in Quneitra on the Golan Heights.
None of the peacekeepers were harmed. He says they have pulled back from the crossing.
June 6th, 2013, 7:01 am
Tara said:
Pfftt. America condemns Batta
• The White House has accused Hezbollah and Iran of being “partners in tyranny” after their role in the Syrian government’s retaking of the strategic town of Qusair. The White House spokesman Jay Carney said:
We remain very concerned, and we condemn in the strongest possible terms the Assad regime’s assault on Qusair … It is clear that the regime is unable to contest the opposition’s control of a place like Qusair on their own, and that is why they are dependent on Hezbollah and Iran to do their work for them. The fact that a regime like Assad has its partners in tyranny here – Hezbollah and Iran – says a great deal about their intentions and the fact that Assad’s principal concern has been his own grasp on power, not his own people – people that he’s butchered.
June 6th, 2013, 7:02 am
Dawoud said:
Mr. Akbar Palace
I have already explained to you my position for peace and justice for all. Palestinian injustice has to be corrected, and I favor a secular/democratic state for ALL (Jews, Muslims, Christians, etc. ). Don’t waste your time with the pro-regime folks and the crazy stuff they say.
June 6th, 2013, 7:15 am
Tara said:
One more evidence to the Arab perception that HA is the enemy. Contrast the Attitude of the Nobel Palestinians to the shiaa Lebsnese.
For second time, Palestinians from Syria torch Hezbollah aid
June 06, 2013 01:35 AM
The Daily Star
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Local-News/2013/Jun-06/219614-for-second-time-palestinians-from-syria-torch-hezbollah-aid.ashx#axzz2VOwp994v
June 6th, 2013, 7:20 am
Dawoud said:
540. TARA
Yes, Palestinians’ have overwhelmingly supported their Syrian brothers/sisters against the dictator. The NYT has an excellent article on the Lebanese terrorist Hizb:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/world/middleeast/syria.html?ref=world&_r=0
In Syrian Victory, Hezbollah Risks Broader Fight
BEIRUT, Lebanon — In the final days the outgunned Syrian rebels, deprived of reinforcements, ammunition and sleep, were surviving on olives and canned beans. They were hiding in the concrete shells of destroyed houses and underground tunnels near the besieged rebel stronghold of Qusayr, unable to help their trapped colleagues and civilians dying of treatable wounds, as Syrian government forces and their Hezbollah allies from Lebanon assaulted the town by land and air.
[…]
June 6th, 2013, 7:27 am
Dawoud said:
TARA:
One paragraph in the Daily Star article that you posted:
“When the refugees realized that the aid was from the same party which is killing their people in Qusair and in other places, they, with dozens of locals, took the boxes from the Palestinian Cultural Center and burned them,” Halabi said.
Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Local-News/2013/Jun-06/219614-for-second-time-palestinians-from-syria-torch-hezbollah-aid.ashx#ixzz2VR0s4FJ4
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
June 6th, 2013, 7:30 am
Dawoud said:
Mathew Barber:
Thanks for verifying that the Syrian revolution was NOT a foreign conspiracy, but its start shows that the regime’s brutality turned it into a regime change movement. The regime’s genocide will be its undoing!
Revealed: The boy prankster who triggered Syria’s bloody genocide with slogans sprayed in his schoolyard
Revealed: The boy prankster who triggered Syria’s bloody genocide with slogans sprayed in his schoolyard
[…]
Afterwards the excited friends ran off home. ‘We were laughing and joking all the time – it was fun,’ said Bashir. ‘But now we do not laugh.’
[…]
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315888/Revealed-The-boy-prankster-triggered-Syrias-bloody-genocide-slogans-sprayed-schoolyard.html#ixzz2VR5ZEsae
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June 6th, 2013, 7:48 am
Mohammad said:
Thanks for the article. I would like to add that people from Syria experience lots of losses. Here is an example of children massacre.
http://youtu.be/xfGG9DuVXKI
All people must stop it!!!
June 6th, 2013, 8:03 am
Akbar Palace said:
I have always had nothing but resentment toward the murderous Bashar al-Assad and the hypocrite terrorist/Iranian puppet Hasan Nasr.
Dawoud,
Really? Now you said “always”, so does “always” mean something more than the 2 years since the uprising or does it mean something closer to your 37 years of age?
Believe me, I have never “spoken” to them. If they “liberate” Palestine, then we need to liberate it from them. I have believed so even since 1976 (the year I was born).
The Middle East is messed up habibi.
No, I am not interested in “kicking out,” as you say “the Jews” from anywhere. They have the right to live and prosper even in Palestine, but Zionists have no right to occupy and colonize the Palestinians.
Well, I’m not sure there is enough trust and good will for Hamas, the PA and GOI to sit together in a circle and sing Kumbaya. Just look at the rest of the ME. The GOI isn’t going to open her borders to commit suicide both politically and physically.
Nothing has changed since 1948, and unfortuantely, a Jewish State and an Arab state will have to be negotiated.
I have told you that a two-state solution was ended by Israel’s settlement/colonization and a Palestinian state is not viable.
Why not? An agreement was almost signed between Arafat and the GOI.
The only solution now is a multi-national secular/democratic state for ALL, including correcting the injustice to the expelled/ethnically-cleansed Palestinians through the right of return.
I think the 2 people need separate states. A one state solution will look like Syria today, with bodies littering the streets.
But I appreciate your thoughts. In time, who knows, Israel may become a majority arab. The point is, it will evolve slowly and peacefully, and one wouldn’t even take notice.
June 6th, 2013, 8:16 am
majedkhaldoun said:
While Hezbollah soldiers are killing Syrian in Qusair, their families are giving away sweets celebrating their murderous crimes
HA is our enemy
persia is our enemy
June 6th, 2013, 8:25 am
Ziad said:
‘I didn’t think of Iraqis as humans,’ says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html#ixzz2VQnmgQ9l
June 6th, 2013, 8:36 am
Ziad said:
Majed
No. The enemy is Zionism and Israel. You would call Hizb and Iran enemies only if you are on Israel’s side, or you are shortsighted.
June 6th, 2013, 8:50 am
zoo said:
As France insists that chemical gaz was used in Syria, Russia asks again Turkey to remove the blackout on the Sarin gaz found with Syrian rebels in Turkey.
The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry asked the Turkish authorities to provide information about the detention of Syrian rebels who had in their possession chemical weapons, such as sarin nerve gas.
“We would like to bring clarity in all questions because the chemical weapons issue becomes a basis of speculation and provocation. I would not exclude that someone wants to use it and claim that the “red line” has been crossed and the military intervention from abroad is necessary,” the official told reporters.
http://rt.com/politics/syria-power-agreement-handover-312/
June 6th, 2013, 8:53 am
zoo said:
#545 Majed
The death of 900 Al Nusra and Islamists criminals is certainly a great occasion for celebrations.
June 6th, 2013, 8:57 am
majedkhaldoun said:
No Ziad(Jad)
HA and persia are partners, and whoever supports killing Syrians like you and Zoo are our enemy and working on behalf of Israel
Zoo is very happy to kill syrians,he calls all sunni as Nusra
June 6th, 2013, 9:03 am
zoo said:
Austria last week threatened to withdraw its contingent in the Golan if ever the EU pushed to lift the arms embargo. It is doing it now thus endangering Israel security and putting the UN in a bind. The message is clear: Let the UK and France send troops
Austria says to pull peacekeepers from Golan
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-austriabre9550nx-20130606,0,4088284.story
8:42 a.m. EDT, June 6, 2013
VIENNA (Reuters) – Austria will withdraw its peacekeepers from the U.N. monitoring force on the Golan Heights given worsening fighting between Syrian government forces and rebels, the government said on Thursday.
Austrians account for about 380 of the 1,000-strong U.N. force monitoring a ceasefire between Syria and Israel and their departure will deal a serious blow to the mission.
June 6th, 2013, 9:04 am
Akbar Palace said:
The Usual Suspect No More
The enemy is Zionism and Israel.
Ziad,
cc: Majedkhaldoun
Maybe Majedkhaldoun would agree with you if it were Zionism and Israel that were destroying Syrian families and neighborhoods using the help of foreign militaries from Iran, Russia and Hezbollah.
Just my guess. Also, please send President Assad a big thank you for bringing arab and jew together in their fight against terror.
Oh, and thanks for admitting that there is no freedom and democracy in Syria. I didn’t want to argue the obvious again or “reinvent the wheel”.
106. Ziad said:
MAJED
Look me in the eyes and don’t blick or smile then say:
When assad goes freedom and democracy will come to Syria.
June 3rd, 2013, 1:54 pm
June 6th, 2013, 9:06 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Zoo
you glee with killing Sunni
June 6th, 2013, 9:08 am
Ziad said:
Majed
If you don’t recognize the difference between my comments and JAD’s, you are not very observant. JAD was a good commenter with a great analytical mind and deep knowledge of the subject. I am nothing but a rookie amateur. I miss JAD very much and searched for him unsuccessfully on the blogosphere.
Besides: I do not understand the obsession with who the commenters are and which sect they belong to. We should debate the message irrespective of the messenger.
June 6th, 2013, 9:18 am
Dawoud said:
553. MAJEDKHALDOUN
حتى التقيه بطلوا يستعملوها. صار حقد بشار وحسن نصر الشيطان ومؤيدوهم في كل مكان مثل هون يكرهوا ويقتلوا السنه علنا
شو رأيك انو الفلسطينيين في لبنان حرقوا مساعدات من حزب الشيطان لانو بقتل اخوانهم في القصير وسوريا؟ شئ طبيعي
June 6th, 2013, 9:19 am
Dawoud said:
554. ZIAD
I once joked (just a joke) with JAD during one of his long absences on SC on whether he was leading a pro-dictator battalion of Shabiha along the Syria-Lebanon border! Just a joke, nothing more!
June 6th, 2013, 9:23 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Dawoud
You are a friend and a dear one, I appreciate what the palastinian did,this is in contrast to what Nasrallah people are doing, we welcomed them and provided them with shelter and all kind of aid, but they are now killing Syrians and celebrating with dance and giving sweets.
Iza anta akramta al-la2eema tamarrada
June 6th, 2013, 9:24 am
zoo said:
#550 Majed
All media reported that the killed fighters in Al Qusayr were Jihadists called by Al Zawahiri and Al Assir in addition to Qatar’s militia, Al Tawhid who came in rescue and failed.
They deserve no tears for their death, just celebrations and sweets….
As far as I know, there are no shia or christians or budhist in Al Qaeda or Al Nusra. All the 9/11 killers were Sunnis.
That’s unfortunate for you who share the same creed but prefer not to be identified with them.
Lots of people celebrated the death of famous sunnis: Saddam Hossein, Ben Laden etc…
June 6th, 2013, 9:26 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Ziad
I believe you ARE Jad
Your language is just like Jad, your ideas and support is just like Jad, and you said it you like Bassam Alqadi, no one else would say that except Jad, and Jad and Ziad are very close names
So many menhebakjieh used different monikers
June 6th, 2013, 9:31 am
dawoud said:
557. MAJEDKHALDOUN
تحرير فلسطين يمر من دمشق الحره. أطفال فلسطين قالوا لبشار أو بثار وحسونه الشيطانيه انو اذا كان تحرير فلسطين يعني قتل اطفال سوريا, ما بدنا تحرروا فلسطين
Distributing sweets in Beirut’s Shia suburb to “celebrate” the killing of Syrian Sunnis in al-Qasir (many, as you say gave shelter to these Lebanese Shia) is a MORAL FAILURE and an internal character war crimes. Even the Israelis never distributed joyful gifts to celebrate Palestinian corpses. Shame on Hasan Nasr-Satan and his Iranian Wilayet al-Faqih masters!
June 6th, 2013, 9:32 am
Ziad said:
Can David Cameron explain why he has put us on al-Qaeda’s side?
Just like Tony Blair over Iraq, the Prime Minister has lost touch with reality when it comes to Syria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10100943/Can-David-Cameron-explain-why-he-has-put-us-on-al-Qaedas-side.html
June 6th, 2013, 9:45 am
revenire said:
Brother Majed don’t be troubled by who we really are. All men are brothers. Embrace us as such.
You’ve lost the war. It is time to act like a man and admit it. It is not so bad in Colorado. It’s not Syria but the motherland is for patriots. That was a choice you made. You must learn to live with it.
I’d offer you a sweet gift to celebrate but we are on computers.
Let me send you an imaginary one.
June 6th, 2013, 9:54 am
Ziad said:
Syrian army has retaken the Quneitra border crossing between Syria and Israel in the Jolan Heights after it was captured by rebel forces earlier today, Austria’s defense ministry reports.
According to the news circulated by the ministry, Syrian troops on Thursday pushed the rebel militants out of the Bravo outpost.
TASS
June 6th, 2013, 9:57 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Revenir said
You have lost the war
no we did not lose the WAR, keep your sweets to your kids
June 6th, 2013, 10:04 am
revenire said:
“543. DAWOUD said:
Mathew Barber:
Thanks for verifying that the Syrian revolution was NOT a foreign conspiracy.”
Dave that isn’t what he said and a mythical story about a boy who started this war might be fine for dreamers like you but has no bearing on reality. In fact, I am amazed anyone would believe Western press nonsense.
Dr. Landis, in TIME magazine in 2006 (way before your fairy tale involving graffiti), documented the conspiracy against Syria.
I am still laughing at the idea graffiti started a war. That is pretty funny Dave.
———–
Syria in Bush’s Cross Hairs
By Adam Zagorin/Washington Tuesday, Dec. 19, 2006
The Bush Administration has been quietly nurturing individuals and parties opposed to the Syrian government in an effort to undermine the regime of President Bashar Assad. Parts of the scheme are outlined in a classified, two-page document that says that the U.S. already is “supporting regular meetings of internal and diaspora Syrian activists” in Europe. The document bluntly expresses the hope that “these meetings will facilitate a more coherent strategy and plan of actions for all anti-Assad activists.”
…
Others detect another goal for the proposed policy.
“Ever since the U.S. invasion of Iraq, which Syria opposed, the Bush Administration has been looking for ways to squeeze the government in Damascus,” notes Joshua Landis, a Syria expert who is co-director of the Center for Peace Studies at the University of Oklahoma. “Syria has appeared to be next on the Administration’s agenda to reform the greater Middle East.” Landis adds: “This is apparently an effort to gin up the Syrian opposition under the rubric of ‘democracy promotion’ and ‘election monitoring,’ but it’s really just an attempt to pressure the Syrian government” into doing what the U.S. wants.
That would include blocking Syria’s border with Iraq so insurgents do not cross into Iraq to kill U.S. troops; ending funding of Hizballah and interference in Lebanese politics; and cooperating with the U.N. in the investigation of the assassination of Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri. Senior Syrian government officials are considered prime suspects in Hariri case.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1571751,00.html#ixzz2VRdUldPt
June 6th, 2013, 10:10 am
Ziad said:
Danny Makki vs Zionist rebel sympathizer: The fall of Qusair and the victory of the Syrian Army
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7_iyq3udaw
June 6th, 2013, 10:13 am
revenire said:
Nusra was defeated in Qusayr. Everyone but Nusra is happy about that.
Shouldn’t we be?
June 6th, 2013, 10:15 am
Ziad said:
Air to Air Missiles Fired on Lebanese Villages by Terrorists.
Look who is killing civilians indiscriminately.
http://syriareport.net/air-to-air-missiles-used-by-syria-militants/
June 6th, 2013, 10:25 am
zoo said:
Reve
I am still amazed by the naivety of some commenters who keep saying that the attempt to overthrow Al Assad did not exist before kids wrote some with graffiti in Daara.
It shows a total ignorance of the attempts in the past 20 years aimed at undermining and destroying the firm resistance of independent Syria against the USA-Israel hegemony in the region.
Democracy? no, Hegemony? yes.
June 6th, 2013, 10:26 am
revenire said:
Brother Majed Nusra are not Sunni – they’re a cult. Sunnis don’t kill civilians and behead people but Nusra does. It is all out in the open now.
June 6th, 2013, 10:31 am
revenire said:
Zoo the funny thing to me is Landis wrote about this conspiracy in 2006 in TIME. It is hard to dismiss what he said.
The conspiracy allied with the Muslim Brotherhood, Al-Qaeda and a few traitors to overthrow Assad and target Iran and Hezbollah in the process. (Nasrallah was correct they’d be stupid to do nothing. They’re the next target.)
That’s it.
It’s really simple.
The graffiti story is silly. I can’t imagine anyone believes that some graffiti started this or “Hamza” (his father actually praised Assad and I won’t let anyone forget that either).
“A Faceless Teenage Refugee Who Helped Ignite Syria’s War”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/09/world/middleeast/a-faceless-teenage-refugee-who-helped-ignite-syrias-war.html
Who is the intended audience for that trash? Westerners who don’t even know where Syria is on a map. It is intended to create sympathy.
Dave knows better.
June 6th, 2013, 10:45 am
Ziad said:
الداعية عبد الرحمن علي ضلع لدام برس: حزب الله يقوم بعمل مقدس لحفظ المقاومة من خطر عملاء الصهيونية والوقوف في وجه الوهابيين التكفيريين في سورية هو وقوف مع الحق
قال رئيس مركز الدراسات والأبحاث للوحدة الإسلامية في بلاد الشام الداعية الإسلامي “عبد الرحمن بن علي ضلع”، أن مشاركة حزب الله في معركة القصير واجب وطني مقدس لحماية محور المقاومة والممانعة الذي يواجه هجوماً شرساً من قبل القوى المتخاذلة “الصهيوأميريكية” حسب وصفه، وأضاف “ضلع” في حوار خاص مع “دام برس”:«لقد جاء الإرهابيون التكفيريون من كل بقاع العالم للقتال في سورية مع محور التخاذل والذل “الصهيوأميركي” وضد محور المقاومة والممانعة، لأن الصراع اليوم قائم بين محورين، محور مع أميركا وإسرائيل ومعها الإرهابيون التكفيريون من جهة ومحور مع سورية والمقاومة من جهة أخرى.
http://www.dampress.net/index.php?page=show_det&select_page=51&id=28367
June 6th, 2013, 11:13 am
zoo said:
?MajedAlKhaldoon.. Will you celebrate now?
Most Foreign Sunni Fighters Recently Killed in Syria Fought For Jihadist Group
Matthew Feeney|Jun. 6, 2013 10:34 am
http://reason.com/blog/2013/06/06/most-foreign-sunni-fighters-recently-kil?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reason%2FHitandRun+%28Reason+Online+-+Hit+%26+Run+Blog%29
According to a recent report from counterrorism consulting firm Flashpoint Partners the majority of foreign Sunni rebels killed in Syria between July 2012 and May of this year were fighting for Jabhat al-Nusra, an Al Qaeda-linked group that the U.S. government has classified as a terrorist organization.
The authors of the Flashpoint Partners report looked through web forums and social media sites like Facebook and Twitter in order to confirm the deaths of 280 foreign fighters in Syria who have been “martyred” within the 11 months being examined.
Below is a breakdown of the foreign Sunni fighters killed in Syria examined in the report by country of origin:
June 6th, 2013, 11:15 am
zoo said:
After Al Qusayr another blow to the rebels. The USA and Israel give sighs of relief: The Syrian army is back on the Golan border. Syrian soldiers taken to Israeli hospitals
Syria retakes Golan crossing after Qusayr triumph
AFP Updated June 7, 2013, 2:54 am
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/17505971/syria-retakes-golan-crossing-after-qusayr-triumph/
QUNEITRA CROSSING, Golan Heights (AFP) – Syria’s army recaptured the only Golan Heights crossing on the ceasefire line with Israel Thursday, in another setback for rebels a day after they were blasted out of the strategic town of Qusayr.
…
The rebels briefly took control of the Quneitra crossing, strategically and symbolically important for its proximity to Israel and to Damascus, before being forced out.
“The Syrian army has recovered control of the crossing, there are sounds of explosions from time to time but far less than in the morning,” an Israeli source said.
An AFP correspondent near the crossing confirmed forces loyal to Assad recaptured the frontier post, saying he could see tanks inside the area.
Firefighting trucks on the Syrian side worked to extinguish bush fires sparked by the clashes and civilians on the Israeli side, some with binoculars, watched the pall of smoke in the distance.
Both the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and Israeli army radio said the rebel advance on the plateau was followed by fierce fighting in nearby Quneitra town.
Two peacekeepers suffered “minor injuries” in shelling in the ceasefire zone, a UN peacekeeping spokesman said.
One Israeli source said an unspecified number of Syrian soldiers were taken to an Israeli hospital.
June 6th, 2013, 11:21 am
zoo said:
BREAKING: Commons will vote on whether to arm Syrian rebels
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/breaking-commons-will-vote-on-whether-to-arm-syrian-rebels-8647995.html
More than 80 Conservative backbenchers demanded opportunity to block supply of weapons
Thursday 06 June 2013
MPs were today promised a free vote over moves to arm Syrian opposition forces, with David Cameron facing growing Tory hostility to intervention in the civil war.
They were given the pledge after Downing Street received a demand from more than 80 Conservative backbenchers for an opportunity to block the supply of weapons.
Mr Cameron faces up an uphill struggle to win the endorsement of the House of Commons for any involvement in the war, which has already cost 100,000 lives.
June 6th, 2013, 11:29 am
Sam said:
Reve & zoo,
The fact that tunnels and arms were being prepared years before 2011 tells the story. The traitor Kadaam almost spelled it out!! This plot has been in the making since our beloved President exposed the “half men” for collaborating with the Zionist enemy after the heroes of HA kicked some isreali ass!!! I have one wish, and it would be used in a very non-selfish way……I wish all the oil and natural gas totally runs out in KSA and Quatar. They can go back to living in tents, and be maurarders like their “cousin” the profit!!! Which is funny in itself , because 1500 years ago, I doubt they kept records in the sand, it’s comical how they say they are direct descendants of “the profit Muhammad” It’s just a lie to keep subjugate their people, and live the opulent lifestyle.
June 6th, 2013, 11:36 am
zoo said:
Erdogan has become so vain, authoritarian and arrogant that he will not change his mind about such a trivial issue as the Gezi Park. This may have negative consequences for him and for the country.
Turkey’s Erdogan in Tunisia: “There is No Country That Does Not Use Tear Gas”
http://www.tunisia-live.net/2013/06/06/turkeys-erdogan-in-tunisia-there-is-no-country-that-does-not-use-tear-gas/
Prime Minister Erdogan also declared that he intends to move forward with his project in Gezi Park, despite the protests spreading throughout his country.
“We will carry on with this project,” he said, adding, “The environment does not only mean trees, it also means history and culture.”
When Erdogan and his delegates were questioned about the use of “excessive force” when responding to protesters, one Turkish delegate apologized for the excessive use of gas.
Prime Minister Erdogan, however, did not fully concede to the apology.
“There is no country that does not use tear gas,” he asserted.
June 6th, 2013, 11:46 am
zoo said:
Sam
I agree. Qatar and KSA are acting like they have been plotting their personal revenge on Bashar’s insults back in 2006.
June 6th, 2013, 11:49 am
revenire said:
Brother Majed the most Sunnis killed in this war have been killed by the terrorists. Most of the army is Sunni. You know that.
Sending them more weapons won’t change the fact that the war has been lost by the West.
June 6th, 2013, 11:50 am
Sam said:
Zoo
The real question we should ask is, we’re they mad about the half -men comment, or for being exposed as Zionist agents??
June 6th, 2013, 11:55 am
revenire said:
Syrian Air Force
BREAKING: The Syrian Arab Army has now secured the Qusayr town of Dabaa where many terrorists attempted to flee after routing the battle of Qusayr where they were defeated.
Approximately 300 terrorists were killed yesterday while attempting to flee to Dabaa, their last secure stronghold in the area. This stronghold has now been taken from both directions by the Syrian army.
Body count is still awaiting. Casualties on the Syrian Army side are minimal and mostly from sniper shots.
June 6th, 2013, 12:07 pm
revenire said:
Syrian Perspective
Al Manar: Syrian Army Regains Quneitra, Progresses in Damascus, Daraa Countryside
Syrian army managed to regain control on Thursday over the Quneitra border crossing in the Golan Heights, a few hours after being seized by the so-called ‘free Syrian army.’
According to the Syrian news agency SANA, units of the Syrian national army inflicted the armed groups heavy losses, in a series of military operations carried out Thursday in the areas of Hujeira, Saqba, Adra and Nabek in Damascus countryside.
Several militants were killed, including mercenaries of different nationalities fighting in Syria.
Upon recapturing Quneitra, the Zionist army enforced preparedness in the occupied Golan and installed Arrow-2 missiles.
In the same context, Army units continued chasing militiamen in al-Harak and western al-Mleha neighborhoods in Daraa countryside, hitting on them direct shots.
A military source told SANA that the operations have resulted in number of militants killed and injured, along with destroying their weapons and confiscating a 90-b cannon.
“Nezar Mohammad Abdul Rahman al-Haraki, commander of the so-called ‘Martyrs’ of Western al-Mleha’ was among those killed,” the source added.
The Syrian army vowed on Wednesday to crush terrorist insurgents in every corner across Syria, after recapturing the strategic border city of al-Qusayr.
The Army launched on May 19 a large-scale operation in the city to clear the area of terrorist gangs and liberate the citizens stuck there.
Syria was hit by a violent unrest since mid-March 2011, where the Syrian government accuses foreign actors of orchestrating the conflict, by supporting the militant opposition groups with arms and money.
ZB
June 6th, 2013, 12:07 pm
zoo said:
Sam
Qatar and KSA act for different reasons. Qatar because it is small country with zero culture and lots of money and they want to have a place on the international arena: The ambition of the small and very rich looking for the “grandeur” they can buy.
As for KSA, it is terrified by Iran and the growth of military Shia power when they rely exclusively on the USA for their protection. Except for Syria, Arab armies are weak and paralyzed. Therefore KSA welcomes anything that would weaken the Shias and their allies. In that sense they have the same goal as Israel but while Qatar is boldly flirting with Israel, KSA is not.
Add to that the hatred of Bashar al Assad who has treated them of half-men and who continue supporting Iran and Hezbollah and you get the main motivations behind the GCC aggressive moves toward Syria.
The complication is that KSA, Kuwait, UAE and Oman hate the Moslem Brotherhood that Qatar uses as its proxy to infiltrate and dominate the poorer Arab countries.
Therefore there is an internal struggle mostly between Qatar and KSA on who will dominate the Arab countries.
This has benefited Syria as the opposition is as divided as their sponsors.
When Qatar has realized that the opposition was collapsing it seems to have handed over the leadership of the political wing KSA while keeping its support on its militia in Syria, Al Tawhid.
How is KSA going to mend the pieces of the opposition to get a delegation at the conference, no one knows.
June 6th, 2013, 2:10 pm
Tara said:
Aron,
Thanks.
Are you aware of any study looking at Shiaa jihadism across the the globe? We were recently aware of the US accusing Shiaa jihadists with the assassination attempt on the Saudi ambassador in Washington DC through what I believe Mexican drug dealers. Not too long ago, they were also found culpable for the bombing of the bus of Jewish tourists in Europe and some other prior terror acts in South America.
Anyone looked at that systemically?
June 6th, 2013, 2:20 pm
zoo said:
The equations are simple
FSA + Al Nusra = No Western weapon delivery
FSA – Al Nusra = Not enough trained fighters
In both cases the armed opposition seems doomed.
June 6th, 2013, 2:23 pm
Ziad said:
Large US force arrives in Jordan for deployment at Syria border amid Syria’s Qusayr victory
The U.S. has sent numerous ground troops to Jordan over the past few months, mainly for operating a training camp for militants fighting against the Syrian government.
The recent deployment of U.S. troops to Jordan’s border with Syria comes amid rising concerns over U.S. President Barack Obama’s decision to appoint Susan Rice, the outgoing U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, as his next national security adviser.
According to Antiwar, with Rice taking the reins of the national security machinery of the White House, the U.S. will keep “a keen eye on military intervention in Syria”.
http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/307502.html
June 6th, 2013, 3:29 pm
Ziad said:
Neocons praise Samantha Power pick
Alan Dershowitz, a staunch supporter of Israel and advocate of tough anti-terror policies, also sang Power’s praises in an interview with The Cable. “She’s a perfect choice. A perfect choice,” he said. “She has real credibility to expose the U.N.’s double standard on human rights. She also understands the principle of ‘the worst first’ — you go after the worst human rights abusers first.”
Dershowitz, a fervent watchdog of anti-Israel commentary, said he was not disturbed by Power’s previous criticisms of Israel, including a remark in 2002 in which she said “external intervention” may be necessary to broker peace between Israelis and Palestinians, which may mean “alienating a domestic constituency of tremendous political and financial import” (i.e. Jewish Americans).
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/06/05/neocons_praise_samantha_power_pick
June 6th, 2013, 3:34 pm
Tara said:
Good news that Susan Rice may be appointed as the national security adviser. She is familiar with the regime oppression of the Syrian people and I hope she has a heart for the Syrian children that were put to death by Batta, the Murderer.
June 6th, 2013, 3:38 pm
Ziad said:
TARA
I knew that this would make you happy.
June 6th, 2013, 3:45 pm
revenire said:
Susan Rice murdered more African children than anyone I can think of. Her role in Rwanda is famous.
Obama’s adviser on human rights accuses Susan Rice of being a bystander to genocide
http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/41216
If you’re hanging your hat on her helping Syrian children you will be sorely disappointed. She will only help kill more.
June 6th, 2013, 3:49 pm
Ziad said:
helping Syrian children!!
Oh NO!! It is more cruise missles, more destruction, more dead Syrian children.
June 6th, 2013, 3:53 pm
Tara said:
Ziad,
Thanks.
I hope you are not Jad as Majed said. I actually liked Jad the first month or so then he got on my nerves badly. I did not think he was a genuinely bad person, but his soul was lost. Perhaps torn between what is moral and what is a primitive selfish tribal instinctive fear.
June 6th, 2013, 3:58 pm
Syrialover said:
#564 REVENIRE helpfully published something from 2006 about America’s agenda on Syria.
Western policy makers clearly realised the dirty stench from the Assad regime was festering and destined to explode into something catastrophic.
They wanted to see political reform in Syria and an end to a terrorist regime sponsoring terrorism. The same outcome yearned for by so many Syrians (who have shown they are willing to die for it).
What a shame America didn’t push their agenda harder back then!
Quote from 2006 Time Magazine report:
“That would include blocking Syria’s border with Iraq so insurgents do not cross into Iraq to kill U.S. troops; ending funding of Hizballah and interference in Lebanese politics; and cooperating with the U.N. in the investigation of the assassination of Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri. Senior Syrian government officials are considered prime suspects in Hariri case.”
June 6th, 2013, 4:07 pm
Ziad said:
الظواهري : إن أردتم .. فنفروا للشام !!!
June 6th, 2013, 4:08 pm
revenire said:
How do we know they didn’t push their conspiracy harder back then? Isn’t this war the culmination of that effort?
It isn’t like the US publishes their covert plans. Years later we find out about them – like when the CIA installed the Shah or how the CIA backed all the dictators of the Arab world, etc.
It isn’t exactly news that the corrupt Gulf states see this war as a way of draining and containing Iran.
I doubt very many believe the West gives a damn how many Syrians die in their little chess game with Russia.
June 6th, 2013, 4:12 pm
Ziad said:
TARA
There is no way for me to convince you either way. What does it matter weather I am JAD or not. I am telling you, attacking the messenger instead of debating the message is a cheap and very ineffective way in a discourse.
June 6th, 2013, 4:30 pm
Syrialover said:
TARA #592,
Yeah I thought the same about the JAD online character who worked to dominate this forum in 2011.
He was a professional and determined propagandist, that’s for sure.
But unlike the Assadists posting here now he didn’t celebrate his indifference and contempt for the people of Syria, and he sometimes wrote of memories and feelings about Syria that showed emotional investment and attachment to the place.
If he was for real and even 25% sane, Assad/Iran/Russia burning the country would have been very hard for him to cheer and sneer about.
June 6th, 2013, 4:31 pm
Ziad said:
Erdogan blames ‘terrorists’ for Turkey protests
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan says “terrorists” have been taking part in deadly anti-government protests sweeping Turkey, refusing to cancel a controversial Istanbul development plan that sparked them.
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1481830
June 6th, 2013, 5:35 pm
Ziad said:
Suspicion and Hate: Racist Attacks On Arabs Increase in Israel
Arabs are being beaten and insulted in Israel, where the number of racially motivated attacks has risen dramatically. The unresolved conflict, fueled by nationalist politicians, is shifting from Palestinian areas into the Israeli heartland.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/racist-attacks-against-arabs-increase-in-israel-a-903529.html
June 6th, 2013, 6:35 pm
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