Major salafi faction criticizes Jabhat al-Nosra

by Aron Lund for Syria Comment

The Islamic Ahrar al-Sham Movement, which is the leading faction of the Syrian Islamic Front (SIF) and probably the biggest salafi group in Syria, has issued a statement about Jabhat al-Nosra’s recent declaration of allegiance to al-Qaida’s Ayman al-Zawahiri. The Ahrar al-Sham statement is available in Arabic on Aaron Zelin’s Jihadology, always the go-to place for source material on jihadi groups. It has been translated into English by Misr Panorama, here (added May 6).

The background is as follows. In early April, Zawahiri issued a statement in support of the revolution in Syria and called for an Islamic state there. This was followed by a message from the emir of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI, i.e. al-Qaida in Iraq), Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who finally acknowledged the long-known fact that Jabhat al-Nosra was an ISI offshoot and that they would henceforth work under a common name and flag as “the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria”. The day after, Jabhat al-Nosra’s leader Abu Mohammed al-Joulani issued a surprisingly sharp rejoinder. He admitted that Jabhat al-Nosra had indeed been supported by the ISI from the very beginning, and was thankful for it, but he also said he hadn’t been consulted on Abu Bakr’s announcement and denied that the groups would merge. On the other hand, Abu Mohammed took the occasion to formally “renew” his pledge of allegiance to Ayman al-Zawahiri, the top emir of al-Qaida.

This procedure, “al-bayaa” in Arabic, is not mere rhetoric; rather it is loaded with religious and political significance for hardcore Islamists like these. It essentially means that Abu Mohammed, and by extention Jabhat al-Nosra, promises to follow every order from Zawahiri as long as this does not contravene sharia law. It is a step in the same process that al-Qaida in Iraq went through, when Abu Moussaab al-Zarqawi first declared his allegiance to Osama bin Laden. His group, al-Tawhid wal-Jihad, was then renamed al-Qaida in Mesopotamia, after Bin Laden responded by formally blessing their union, to signify that it was now a bona fide al-Qaida wing (it then folded into the ISI in 2006, but that’s another matter). Later, the GSPC of Algeria and Shabab al-Mujahedin of Somalia went through the same steps to become formal al-Qaida branches, and now Jabhat al-Nosra is doing it.

The new Ahrar al-Sham statement, signed May 4, 2013, criticizes both Abu Mohammed el-Joulani and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. According to Ahrar al-Sham, their statements were divisive, lacking in realism and “put the interest of the group before the interest of the Umma”, i.e. the Islamic nation as a whole.

Ahrar al-Sham warns that Jabhat al-Nosra’s open affiliation to al-Qaida will help the regime and that it will “regionalize” the crisis by bringing other parties into the conflict, presumably in reference to US and European hostility to al-Qaida.

While frank and critical, the Ahrar al-Sham statement is not really hostile to Jabhat al-Nosra or al-Qaida. Rather it is written in the tone of honest advise for an ally who has committed a damaging mistake. In fact, the statement expresses disappointment in Jabhat al-Nosra, since Ahrar al-Sham says it had previously only seen good deeds from the group and had expected better. Ahrar al-Sham also takes care to point out that they agree in principle with the al-Qaida goal of establishing an transnational Islamic state, but asks for a bit of realism and patience given the current situation. They also say that none of today’s Islamist factions is strong enough to assume religious leadership over the Muslim community, thereby obliquely criticizing al-Qaida, ISI and Jabhat al-Nosra while also denying that they have rival leadership ambitions.

Previously, the Jabhat al-Nosra and ISI declarations had been criticized in similarly nuanced statements by the FSA-aligned SILF Islamist alliance and several other opposition factions, including the mainstream pro-Western and pro-GCC leaderships.

But it took Ahrar al-Sham almost a month to respond. The group has recently grown a lot, incorporating smaller SIF factions, so they probably had to go through some internal consultations before producing a statement on a sensitive matter like this. The SIF as an alliance has still not taken a public position on the Jabhat al-Nosra/al-Qaida affair, but I expect it will follow. And Ahrar al-Sham is by now so dominant within the SIF that their word could almost be taken to represent the SIF.

This dispute illustrates the subtle but real distinction between al-Qaida’s radically internationalist salafi-jihadism and the more locally rooted, Syria-focused and somewhat pragmatic salafi program of Ahrar al-Sham and the SIF. For more on that, see my recent report on the SIF and its member factions.

– Aron Lund

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Comments (908)


Akbar Palace said:

Does anyone have a list of all the “fronts”, organizations, gangs, etc operating in Syria?

It must be difficult to decide which to join. Like choosing colleges.

May 4th, 2013, 4:59 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Not a Perfect World Yet

Today’s Question:

Which Syrian opposition “faction” will congratulate Israel for knocking off Iranian missiles at Damascus Airport?

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4375921,00.html

May 4th, 2013, 5:19 pm

 

mjabali said:

Mr. Lund:

I read your article and read the press release of Ahrar al-Sham that you linked to. I do not agree with most of what you wrote for the following reasons:

– The release never mentions al-Qa’ida. You are reading too much into it. you write:

“Ahrar al-Sham warns that Jabhat al-Nosra’s open affiliation to al-Qaida will help the regime and that it will “regionalize” the crisis by bringing other parties into the conflict, presumably in reference to US and European hostility to al-Qaida.”

I did not see anything of what you wrote in this paragraph. Yes, there is a little mention that al-Assad may use this cross border affiliation for his end.

– What the press release included was telling al-Nusra in Syria and the Nusra guys in Iraq that they are not allowed to declare anything by themselves.

– The press release does include the sameness between al-Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham. They are not really critiquing them: they are telling them : listen guys we are here and you should come through us to declare anything regarding Syria. This release includes a praise of al-Nusra and their role in the battle.

– The press release was very wordy regarding one issue only: How to be involved to make decisions regarding Syria.

– Again: the press release did not show Ahrar al-Sham as a distinct group. No, on the other hand, it stressed the similarities with al-Nusra while telling al-Nusra to not declare anything on their own.

May 4th, 2013, 6:00 pm

 

revenire said:

Hamster et al. here is your ‘massacre’ exposed. A fraud from start to finish.

THIS IS A PICTURE THAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED AND CIRCULATED AS BEING FROM “BAYDA” IN RURAL TARTOUS, AND ACCUSES THE SYRIAN ARAB ARMY OF KILLING THESE CHILDREN ..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/216227_450435415047980_71560065_n.jpg

THIS PICTURE IS IN FACT FROM “GHAZA” IN PALESTINE, AND THE CRIME AGAINST THESE CHILDREN, BELONGS TO THE “PEACEFUL” ISRAELIS,,

PLEASE SEE ATTACHED LINKS AS PROOF OF MORE OF THEIR LIES AGAINST THE PRESIDENT AND ARMY OF SYRIA !!! …

PLEASE SHARE EVERYONE AND HELP US GET THE TRUTH OUT

Many thanks to John for passing this article on from the news page attached … – J

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May 4th, 2013, 6:04 pm

 

ann said:

“The Coast’s Volcano” – I posted about it two threads ago – May 2, 2013

[…]

Pro-opposition web pages, at the same time, reportedly declared the commencement of the rebels’ battle in the Syrian coast, which is hometown of the Alawite minority, an offshoot of Shiite Islam, to whom the ruling elite in Syria belongs.

The battle, titled “the coast’s volcano,” aims to “liberate the coast of the Alawite colonies,” according to rebels’ claim.

The al-Qaida-affiliated al-Nusra Front has started its attacks on government troops from the coastal city of Banyas, the sole coastal city of Sunni majority, and pledged to carry on with more.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/02/c_132355313.htm

May 4th, 2013, 6:08 pm

 

zoo said:

The project these various Islamist groups have for Syria is extremely appealing to many moslems: finally living united under the pure Sharia sent by God.
I am sure many expats on SC are delighted to read that post.
Their dream is about to come true: Just like Saudi Arabia, Syria will bloom under a Salafi rule…
Death to the Moslem Brotherhood, long live to the Syrian Salafi emirate!

May 4th, 2013, 6:08 pm

 

revenire said:

The Coast Volcano didn’t work out so well for the rats did it Ann?

May 4th, 2013, 6:55 pm

 

zoo said:

Selim Idriss bizarre promises. Naivety or stupidity? Does he hope someone would believe him?

Syrian Rebel Leader: We Won’t Share U.S. Arms With Extremists

http://www.npr.org/2013/05/04/181158423/syrian-rebel-leader-we-wont-share-u-s-arms-with-extremists?ft=1&f=1009

“I don’t like to say that we are working just like a regular army because the majority of the forces are civilians,” Idris tells NPR’s Kelly McEvers.
….
He says the rebel army will works hard to keep track of the weapons should the U.S. provides them.

“We are ready to make lists of the weapons and write down the serial numbers,” he says. “The Free Syrian Army is very well organized and when we distribute weapons and ammunition we know exactly to which hands they are going.”

Idris says that when the regime falls, they will be ready to give back all of the weapons. It remains to be seen whether he could hold his men and commanders on the ground to that plan.

May 4th, 2013, 7:01 pm

 

ann said:

Syria inspecting alleged Israeli air strike: minister – 2013-05-05

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/05/c_132359647.htm

DAMASCUS, May 4 (Xinhua) — Syria’s Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi said Saturday that a serious Syrian inspection is currently underway to verify reports about an Israeli airstrike that allegedly hit Syria overnight Thursday.

During an interview with the state-TV, al-Zoubi said results are yet to come out, but stressed that whoever thinks that Syria is vulnerable or weak, is “delusional.”

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/05/c_132359647.htm

May 4th, 2013, 7:06 pm

 

Visitor said:

Fabrications and lies from the enemies of the holy warriors is very much expected, for Allah The Al-Mighty told us it will be so. Allah, All Praise be to Him also told us to deal with it through patience and taqwa,

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In addition, Allah Loves those who fight on His Way to do so as One Body,

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Lund is irrelevant. He knows zilch.

May 4th, 2013, 7:06 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

sewer-pipe could not challenge any of the photos from Banyas i have posted. So it and its buffoonish incompetent cyber-terrorist pathetic try to sneak in a photo that was never posted on any reputable site from the revolution. This has been happening for a while now and it has become a laughable pathetic strategy that keeps failing.

Once a sewer-pipe always a sewer-pipe. How pathetic and idiotic.

Laughable if it wasn’t disgustingly stupid. But what could one expect from Iranian propaganda experts and “celebrating-the-rain” prostitute-media. Yes, Morsi was talking about Bahrain. And athad and its athma are really popular.

Next time, idiots, use an image that is not posted on an Iranian site. Then try to sneak it into a legitimate Syrian Revolution site. Buffoons

May 4th, 2013, 7:11 pm

 

ann said:

8. zoo said:

Naivety or stupidity?

What did you expect from “NPR” (“National Propaganda Radio”) ZOO?!

😀 😀

May 4th, 2013, 7:16 pm

 

Visitor said:

All Praise be to Allah.

If you attempt to count the Blessings of Allah you will never be able to do so.
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Alhamdulillah!

Our holy warriors have, with the Blessings of Allah, succeeded in making three evil hizbistani thugs lifeless and with Allah’s facilitation sent them straight to their final destination in the lowest depth of Jahannam:

Ali Hassan Mourtada (Lower Tamnin, Baalbek)
Wafiq Ali Hamiyye (Tarayya, Baalbek)
Hassan Naser Edeen (Jabsheet, Nabatiyyeh)

May 4th, 2013, 7:26 pm

 

Syrian said:

A huge explosion just happened on top of Quasyon mountain
http://youtu.be/e84pVGsP6YU

May 4th, 2013, 7:27 pm

 

ann said:

Damascus is under cruise missiles attack!

May 4th, 2013, 7:41 pm

 

revenire said:

Israeli attack on Jamaraya Research Center. State TV said missiles, others claim Israeli jets were heard breaking the sound barrier. Unconfirmed reports of one Israeli jet down.

May 4th, 2013, 8:05 pm

 

revenire said:

“@SyrianperNews attack was not in Jabal Qaysoon. It was in Jamariah, on the border of Lebanon. It was an attack by an Israeli aircraft.”

“@SyrianperNews To clarify, it was not Jabal Qaysoon. It was Jamariah, a rural town on the border of Lebanon. Yes, it was an Israeli aircraft.”

May 4th, 2013, 8:15 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

The Assadists are selling weapons to Hezbollah for more support from them.

Israel said no.

In the meantime, the Assadists are massacring women and children, because they can’t beat the men.

May 4th, 2013, 8:23 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

That explosion was pretty awesome. I wonder what blew up. There’s nothing the Assadists can do about it except massacre women and children in frustration. The war continues.

May 4th, 2013, 8:24 pm

 

revenire said:

The Israelis hit Jamariah a month or so ago, maybe two months. They are desperate to help their rats.

May 4th, 2013, 8:26 pm

 

Tara said:

The Alawi militia are celebrating the ethnic cleansing in Bayda and Banias and do not care to hide it or deny it. It is a a message to inflict fear in order to force the Sunnis out to establish an Alawi state in case the regime loses Damascus. It is by far the largest massacre committed within the last 2 years

The regime is daydreaming. It will not get a foot hold in Syria. And Syrians will fight until the last man. The coast belong to us.

May 4th, 2013, 8:30 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

Not particularly. But the rebels aren’t channeling weapons to Hezbollah. So that’s why they hit the Assadists.

The Assadists have grown weaker and weaker. The Israelites can hit them with impunity, and the best the Assadists can do is say, “hur hur, we’ll hit you back in the future.”

Which, as Israel knows, isn’t going going to happen because the Assadists don’t have a future.

May 4th, 2013, 8:30 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

The Alawites have pretty much given up on trying to hold the country. They’ve evacuated from the majority of the provinces. It’s not even clear if they can hold Damascus, Homs, or Hamas.

The war continues.

May 4th, 2013, 8:32 pm

 

zoo said:

#21 Tara

“The coast belong to us”

Who is us?

May 4th, 2013, 8:33 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

EDIT: Syria belongs to the Sunnis. If the Alawites wish to live in the country, they’ll have to respect that. Their days of rule are over.

What comes around, goes around. And if the theocratic and highly religious Shiite Iranians try to stop that, they’ll have to pay and pay and pay.

May 4th, 2013, 8:35 pm

 

Tara said:

It belongs to the Syrian people minus the mafia family and its militia.

May 4th, 2013, 8:42 pm

 

zoo said:

Egypt and Iran working on a blue print for a peace plan without forcing Bashar Al Assad to step down. They are both firmly opposed to a US military intervention in Syria.

Saturday 4 May 2013

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/70698/Egypt/Politics-/Close-but-not-together-Egypt-and-Iran-seek-Syria-p.aspx

Regional and Western diplomats in Cairo have told Ahram Online that Cairo and Tehran are both working on a blueprint for a peace plan for Syria that could be “swallowed” by Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad.

The plan that is being discussed is essentially inspired by the Geneva parameters that were drafted by Lakhdar Brahimi, former UN-Arab League envoy, which allow for a gradual transformation of power “under Al-Assad” and would not force Al-Assad to step down.

What brings Cairo, where resides the highest Sunni entity Al-Azhar, and Tehran, the capital of Middle Eastern Shiism, together is one basic fear: foreign military action against Syria.

Egyptian and Iranian diplomats are terse in their remarks, even off the record. However, both agree there is this “growing pressure in Washington to get [US President Barack] Obama to give the go ahead,” for limited but forceful military intervention to end the intransigence of the Al-Assad regime after two years of civil war with the opposition.

“There is a growing pressure on Obama. One could say that yes it somehow started in Israel, but there are other players in the region that could benefit from a quick end to the Al-Assad regime,” commented an Egyptian diplomat.

He added: “From our point of view, this is not something that we could agree to — no matter what disagreements we have with Al-Assad’s regime. We are firmly opposed to any military intervention against Syria.”

May 4th, 2013, 8:43 pm

 

Visitor said:

Shiism is a virus that must be eliminated once and for all in light of recent developments in Syria. Human body’s normal reaction to an intruding virus would be to marshal all its defenses to expel the virus in order to keep the body sound and healthy. The virus of Shiism must be eliminated from our Arab and Muslim worlds. It must be declared illegal creed of satanic origins.

May 4th, 2013, 8:45 pm

 

Tara said:

Waheed Saqr calling on Alawis: either be Syrians or be with basher al Assad. The coast belong to Syrians. And I call on Sunnis and to Christians: Either be Syrians or be with Bashar. And Syria, all of it belongs to Syrians.

May 4th, 2013, 8:46 pm

 

revenire said:

LOL

Visitor have a martini and try to forget about your crazy nonsense for once.

May 4th, 2013, 8:47 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

Your news source is what: Ahram news? Is that Iranian for “fake?”

How many peace proposals have Iran floated over the last two years? Has anyone of importance or anyone who is on the ground fighting paid any attention to them?

The war continues. The Assadists are politically dead. No one who is fighting is going to talk to them. They’ve committed too many atrocities. They’re going to get what they deserve.

May 4th, 2013, 8:47 pm

 

Marigoldran said:

Stop being retarded, retard.

But then again, I guess you can’t help it. After all you’re a loser.

May 4th, 2013, 8:49 pm

 

revenire said:

It is now confirmed that Syria downed an Israeli jet.

May 4th, 2013, 8:56 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

The Assadists built SCUD missiles and chemical weapons so that they could use it against Syrians. Apparently they DON’T use it when an avowed enemy and foreign power like Israel bombs them.

How ironic.

EDIT: Show us a picture, retard. Confirmed by what? Iranian news?

May 4th, 2013, 8:58 pm

 

ann said:

`israel is overtly supporting NATOs Al-Qaeda Islamist Terrorists in Syria

Syria accuses Israel of attacking military research center in Damascus – 2013-05-05

“The Israeli entity has used its missiles to support the terrorism through targeting the research center,” the state media said.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/05/c_132359760.htm

DAMASCUS, May 5 (Xinhua) — The explosions that rocked a military research center in a suburb of the capital before dawn Sunday were caused by an Israeli attack, the state TV said.

“The state terrorism practiced by Israel in shelling the scientific research center is nothing but a desperate attempt to ease the pressure on the armed groups that are being squashed under the heavy blows of the Syrian army,” it said.

Explosions rocked the suburb of Jamraya northwest of Damascus early Sunday, the TV said, adding that casualties were feared.

According to a Xinhua reporter, four powerful explosions were heard in Damascus before daybreak Sunday. The blasts happened in swift succession and were heard across the capital.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/05/c_132359760.htm

May 4th, 2013, 8:58 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

What’s the point of saying you’re “against Israel” if you spend all your time trying to kill Sunnis?

May 4th, 2013, 8:59 pm

 

revenire said:

Unconfirmed reports of the Israeli pilot of downed jet being captured alive by SAA.

May 4th, 2013, 9:02 pm

 

revenire said:

Make that Israeli pilots – as in more than one – captured near the Archery Club in Damascus.

May 4th, 2013, 9:05 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

That’s nice. In the meantime, I’ve got some real estate in the Bahamas that I’d like to sell you.

May 4th, 2013, 9:12 pm

 

zoo said:

Having gone to bed with Al Qaeda and islamists extremists with no definite results except more destruction and killings, now the rebels are getting a helping hand from Israel.
To which level of treason and shame will the opposition descend?

May 4th, 2013, 9:16 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

Hahahaha, is that the best that you can do, Zoo?

Israel just SHAT on the Assadists. They got DUMPED on. And their only response is to complain and say “we’ll get you back later?”

Better the Islamists than the Assadists. At least the Islamists don’t massacre women and children or prepare chemical-tipped SCUD missiles.

Not only were the Assadists planning to use chemical weapons, they got CAUGHT red-handed AND got their weapons bombed. That’s sad. Real sad.

May 4th, 2013, 9:18 pm

 

revenire said:

Multiple reports – from Israeli sources – that there has been a declaration of war by Syria on Israel. No independent confirmation yet.

https://twitter.com/IsraelHatzolah

May 4th, 2013, 9:28 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

Hahaha, that’s nice, if true.

So what the heck are the Assadists going to do? Everything they try will only bring more Israeli retaliation.

Let’s see: they lost two-thirds of the country to the rebels. Now they plan to take on Israel? Basically, Israel just SHAT on the Assadists when they were down. And EVERYONE knows it.

The Israelites have basically just said: “you Assadists are weak and puny. We can kick you around however we want, and there’s nothing you can do about it except to make your situation worse.”

Kind of like you, retard. I guess losers support losers, huh?

May 4th, 2013, 9:30 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

This is a day Assad forces in northwest Damascus has suffered huge losses,Assad thugs in Qassioun mountain they left their places and ran away, many many soldiers of Assad thugs died today,Assad himself he lives in this area, This is huge bombing this is a messge to Assad,I think Assad is stubborn but his advisors must tell him to run away,FSA are busy hunting Assad thugs,in this message they are telling him use chemical weapons and you will be dead, Hassan nasrallah must be getting a fit,Iran may interfere if they are stupid enough.

Mr. Landis needs to tell us something about this big event.

May 4th, 2013, 9:40 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

Israel bombs the Assadists, and most Syrians cheer!

Not that Israel or the Islamists are wonderful, but they’re better than the Assadists. At least they don’t massacre women and children with knives!

The war continues.

May 4th, 2013, 9:43 pm

 

revenire said:

Israel Channel 10 reporting loss of two Israeli fighters over Syria.

May 4th, 2013, 9:49 pm

 

Observer said:

Well here is Arabic RT with the videos of the explosions on top of Damascus

http://arabic.rt.com/news/614769-????????_?????_???_???????_????/

May 4th, 2013, 9:59 pm

 

Visitor said:

The Israeli raid is nothing but a side shaw which is designed to give Assad a lifeline. Assad has been the most loyal Israeli ally over the last 50 years and it is natural for Israel to come to the aid of is faithful stooge in times of need.

The real action however, was undertaken by our holy warriors of the Nusra Front and associates. The action took pace in and around Damascus. Huge explosions rocked the city like it never saw anything like it before. Brigade 104 is totally destroyed. Not a single Assadist criminal of the so-called brigade survived the unrelenting fire of our holy warriors. In addition Brigade 105 had its share of destruction and decimation.. Top of Qassioun mountain was bombed and it is possible the target was Bashar himself. Huge areas of the Fourth Division headquarters came under attack and it is reported that many of its members fled or were killed leaving weapons and amunitions behind them strewn over large areas. They fled like cowardly rabbits. They turned the lights off and fired haphazardly and blindly in the air for they had no clue whasovere as to where the fire was coming from. It is reported that over fifty huge explosions took pace the likes of which have never been heard of before.

We must congratulate our holy warriors for a great job well done, and thank the Al-Mighty for the unseen help He provided for His servants on this earth of His.

May 4th, 2013, 10:03 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

Those are some really large explosions that happened on that mountain.

I guess the Assadists were stockpiling a lot of weapons there. Thereby teaching all of us an important lesson: don’t put lots of chemical weapons on the mountain that you live on.

But then again, I guess the Assadists didn’t have a choice. If they hadn’t put their chemical weapons and explosives there, the rebels might capture them.

Ah well, what comes around goes around.

May 4th, 2013, 10:08 pm

 

revenire said:

Looking like the Israeli attack was coordinated with the terrorists – directly after many checkpoints were attacked.

May 4th, 2013, 10:12 pm

 

ann said:

Israeli Airstrikes Signal Western Desperation in Syria – May 4, 2013

Alleged airstrikes hope to expand conflict, undermine Syrian advances, & provoke Syria and Iran to give US justification for military intervention

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/israeli-airstrikes-signal-western.html

May 4, 2013 (LD) – Once again, Israel is “leaking” information about alleged airstrikes it claims it has conducted against Syria along the Lebanese-Syrian border. According to CNN’s “Sources: U.S. believes Israel has conducted an airstrike into Syria,” it was stated that:

The United States believes Israel has conducted an airstrike into Syria, two U.S. officials tell CNN.

And:

The Israelis have long said they would strike at any targets that prove to be the transfer of any kinds of weapons to Hezbollah or other terrorist groups, as well as at any effort to smuggle Syrian weapons into Lebanon that could threaten Israel.

This was the same flimsy pretext used in another alleged Israeli attack on Syrian territory earlier this year.

In reality, the “other terrorists groups” Israel claims to worry about, are indeed funded and directed by the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia as part of a long-standing, documented conspiracy to overthrow the nations of Iran and Syria.

Reported by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh in his 2007 New Yorker article, “The Redirection,” it was stated (emphasis added):

“To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has cooperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.”

Of Israel it specifically stated:

“The policy shift has brought Saudi Arabia and Israel into a new strategic embrace, largely because both countries see Iran as an existential threat. They have been involved in direct talks, and the Saudis, who believe that greater stability in Israel and Palestine will give Iran less leverage in the region, have become more involved in Arab-Israeli negotiations.”

Additionally, Saudi Arabian officials mentioned the careful balancing act their nation must play in order to conceal its role in supporting US-Israeli ambitions across the region:

“The Saudi said that, in his country’s view, it was taking a political risk by joining the U.S. in challenging Iran: Bandar is already seen in the Arab world as being too close to the Bush Administration. “We have two nightmares,” the former diplomat told me. “For Iran to acquire the bomb and for the United States to attack Iran. I’d rather the Israelis bomb the Iranians, so we can blame them. If America does it, we will be blamed.””

This, in fact, reveals the true nature of the attacks, a result of US, Saudi, and Israeli proxies failing inside of Syria and the desperate need to carryout military intervention to save them, while leaving intact whatever remaining legitimacy and plausible deniability the US holds globally, and Saudi Arabia holds across the Muslim World.

What Israel’s Strike May Really Mean

Indeed, Israel’s explanation as to why it struck neighboring Syria is tenuous at best considering its long, documented relationship with actually funding and arming the very “terrorist groups” it fears weapons may fall into the hands of.

In reality, the pressure placed on Syria’s borders by both Israel and its partner, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an’s Turkey in the north, is part of a documented plan to relieve pressure on the Western, Israeli, Saudi-Qatari armed and funded terrorists currently collapsing inside Syria.

The Fortune 500-funded (page 19), US foreign-policy think-tank, Brookings Institution – which has blueprinted designs for regime change in Libya as well as both Syria and Iran – stated this specifically in their report titled, “Assessing Options for Regime Change.”

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-A1LKdrB4W0U/UGyjBIsof8I/AAAAAAAAD6Q/XYN3YOxIPU4/s1600/BrookingsSyriaRegimeChange.tif

Image: The Brookings Institution, Middle East Memo #21 “Assessing Options for Regime Change (.pdf),” makes no secret that the humanitarian “responsibility to protect” is but a pretext for long-planned regime change.

Brookings describes how Israeli efforts in the south of Syria, combined with Turkey’s aligning of vast amounts of weapons and troops along its border to the north, could help effect violent regime change in Syria:

“In addition, Israel’s intelligence services have a strong knowledge of Syria, as well as assets within the Syrian regime that could be used to subvert the regime’s power base and press for Asad’s removal. Israel could posture forces on or near the Golan Heights and, in so doing, might divert regime forces from suppressing the opposition. This posture may conjure fears in the Asad regime of a multi-front war, particularly if Turkey is willing to do the same on its border and if the Syrian opposition is being fed a steady diet of arms and training. Such a mobilization could perhaps persuade Syria’s military leadership to oust Asad in order to preserve itself. Advocates argue this additional pressure could tip the balance against Asad inside Syria, if other forces were aligned properly.” -page 6, Assessing Options for Regime Change, Brookings Institution.

Of course, airstrikes inside Syria go beyond “posturing,” and indicate perhaps a level of desperation in the West who appear to have elected their chief villain, Israel, to incrementally “intervene” just as they had planned in regards to attacking Iran – also documented by Brookings in a report titled, “Which Path to Persia?”

In regards to Iran, in Brookings’ “Which Path to Persia?” report, it states specifically (emphasis added):

“Israel appears to have done extensive planning and practice for such a strike already, and its aircraft are probably already based as close to Iran as possible. as such, Israel might be able to launch the strike in a matter of weeks or even days, depending on what weather and intelligence conditions it felt it needed. Moreover, since Israel would have much less of a need (or even interest) in securing regional support for the operation, Jerusalem probably would feel less motivated to wait for an Iranian provocation before attacking. In short, Israel could move very fast to implement this option if both Israeli and American leaders wanted it to happen.

However, as noted in the previous chapter, the airstrikes themselves are really just the start of this policy. Again, the Iranians would doubtless rebuild their nuclear sites. They would probably retaliate against Israel, and they might retaliate against the United States, too (which might create a pretext for American airstrikes or even an invasion).” -page 91, Which Path to Perisa?, Brookings Institution.

And in this statement we can gather insight behind both Israel’s otherwise irrational belligerent posture throughout its brief history, as well as its more recent acts of unprovoked aggression against Syria. Israel’s role is to play the “bad guy.” As a regional beachhead for Western corporate-financier interests, it provides a “foot in the door” to any of the West’s many desired conflicts. By bombing Syria, it hopes to provoke a wider conflict – an intervention the West has desired and planned for since it tipped off Syria’s violent conflict in 2011.

For Syria and its allies – the goal now must be to deter further Israeli aggression and avoid wider conflict at all costs. If NATO’s proxy terrorist forces are as weak as they appear – incapable of tactical or strategic gains, and tapering off into desperate terrorist attacks, it is only a matter of time before NATO’s campaign grinds to a halt. As mentioned before, such a failure on NATO’s part will be the beginning of the end for it, and the Western interests that have been using it as a tool to achieve geopolitical hegemony.

Israel should be expected to commit to increasingly desperate acts to provoke Syria and Iran.

[…]

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/israeli-airstrikes-signal-western.html

May 4th, 2013, 10:12 pm

 

Observer said:

This is according to SANA

http://sana.sy/ara/2/2013/05/05/480615.htm

The site bombed is the one in Jermaya and is the same one bombed a few months back.

Now if you were bombed once, genius dictates that you
1. Rebuild and defend to the teeth the site
2. Move the site
3. Defend all of the airspace even more.

Clearly the boy is no genius.
bombed twice and got caught with pants down twice and the video posted by the RT arabic site is actually an indication that a huge stockpile of weapons just blew up.

I wonder what is the RIchter scale of such an explosion? Is it linked to the “fire” that engulfed the Kerosene depot at the International Airport that was quickly extinguished.

I would like to see how some are going to eat their words and become a pretzel’s pretzel in justifying their continued lies.

In the meantime, the inferiority complexed nouveau riche just arrived from the cow dung heating village mobbed by adoring fans with white socks and pistols in their waists and listening buds in their ears. They drove in black cars and never stopped at a red light.

I must confess that some will actually go drunk as if they are just listening to Oum Kalthoum

Some got a taste of what they have been feeding others recently.

body armor? diapers? Valium or Dormicum? eats with a spoon or a fork? apps on an iPad?

Solitaire I bet.

This riddle is of course for my friends Syrian Hamster and TARA with an wink to Mjabali

May 4th, 2013, 10:19 pm

 

revenire said:

Israel and the FSA together against Syria.

May 4th, 2013, 10:19 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

It was Assad channels who said Israel attacked, the truth is not known yet,
many Assad thugs are dead today, Assad may run away to Qurd-town

May 4th, 2013, 10:20 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

OBSERVER

Pajama?

May 4th, 2013, 10:23 pm

 

Observer said:

On a different note: this raid clearly shows that there are many an intervention scenario and with very good and precise outcomes.

Cruise missiles as ANN says, downed Israeli jets as Reverse says. Desperation from the performance of the heroic sneaker soldier army is clearly on the mind of the Israeli intelligence establishment tonight.

SCUDS away now my boy.

May 4th, 2013, 10:25 pm

 

Mick said:

So the so-called ‘FSA’ constantly attacks the Syrian Air Defense sites.

Then Israeli aircraft attack.

It really doesn’t take much to realize who the ‘FSA’ is fighting for.

It isn’t for Syria.

May 4th, 2013, 10:26 pm

 

Observer said:

Yes Hamster in a pyjama and thucking his thumb to fall athlep

May 4th, 2013, 10:26 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

No one except a couple of deluded Alawites believe that. What a retard.

The war continues.

May 4th, 2013, 10:29 pm

 

revenire said:

On their Facebook pages this week they claimed to attack a Damascus air defense site.

May 4th, 2013, 10:35 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

OBSERVER
You gotta check this out… much like sewer-pipe photo fraud attempt earlier today. This is the competence level of the cyber-terrorists lauded by d-p athad.

Never thought that athad has vulcan death-ray, are you sure it is solitaire and not angry birds.

And the retards want us to believe their fraud with such superior quality work or wreck.

May 4th, 2013, 10:36 pm

 

Observer said:

Angry Birds requires a minimum of physics understanding. No I am sure it is Solitaire and the simple version only.

There is no one to play with me tonight!!! I cannot go to thleep for there is too much noith outsthide my room. All this firework ith jutht too much for me tonight.

Good night Syrian Hamster.

SCUDS away my boy, show me you are a man.

Let us what the day brings tomorrow. Death ray from cloaked birds of pray of the Klingon empire I bet

May 4th, 2013, 10:44 pm

 

Mick said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k8zKkrOv6A

Here are the valiant FSA zionist fighters helping to open the southern airspace by taking out the southern SAM brigade (not a ‘regime suppression’ force, but an air defence force) so the zionist entity has control of Syrian airspace again.

May 4th, 2013, 10:49 pm

 

revenire said:

I pray the army kills every last rat in Syria.

May 4th, 2013, 10:52 pm

 

Ameera said:

?? ??? ????? ?? ?? ????? ?? ?????
???? ?? ?????? ????? ?????

May 4th, 2013, 11:05 pm

 

revenire said:

You animals were laughing last week about opening a front on the coast are crying this week about ethnic cleansing.

You are traitors to Syria.

May 4th, 2013, 11:05 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

To prevent the big Qurd from fleeing ,FSA attacked Jableh airport,
Many many Assad thugs soldiers(Quroods) are dead today,several thousands,some by the attack, and several by FSA as they flee they got hunted by FSA

May 4th, 2013, 11:07 pm

 

Ameera said:

?? ???? ?? ???? ????? ?? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ???? ? ?????? ??????? ???? ??? ?? ???? ?? ???? ??? ??????? ? ??? ???

May 4th, 2013, 11:13 pm

 

revenire said:

You’re dreaming again Brother Majed – go back to your bed. Older men need more rest.

May 4th, 2013, 11:18 pm

 

Mick said:

Speaking of Air Defense and stupid ass Sunni fundamentalists….

Who is stopping Lebanon from getting an air defense that is capable of makting sure Israel doesn’t use its airspace whenever it wants?

A. Nasrallah
B. Hariri

If you picked B, you win!

That’s right! For all his rhetoric, he has not once done a damn thing to protect Lebanese airpace. In fact, he made sure that if anyone tried to bring something in, it would be seen as a threat to Lebanon. Because by some inane logic, defending Lebanon by actually being able prevent Israel from doing whatever the hell they feel like is like ‘bad for Lebanon’.

May 4th, 2013, 11:21 pm

 

Ameera said:

????? ??? ????? ? ???? ???? ?? ??? ?? ??????

May 4th, 2013, 11:22 pm

 

Mick said:

Speaking of Air Defense and stupid Sunni fundamentalists….

Who is stopping Lebanon from getting an air defense that is capable of making sure Israel doesn’t use its airspace whenever it wants?

A. Nasrallah
B. Hariri

If you picked B, you win!

That’s right! For all his rhetoric, he has not once done a damn thing to protect Lebanese airspace. In fact, he made sure that if anyone tried to bring something in, it would be seen as a threat to Lebanon. Because by some inane logic, defending Lebanon by actually being able prevent Israel from doing whatever they feel like is like ‘bad for Lebanon’.

May 4th, 2013, 11:24 pm

 

revenire said:

Hariri is a dog.

May 4th, 2013, 11:46 pm

 

ann said:

72. Mick

This is what they bombed Damascus with:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-154_Joint_Standoff_Weapon

The AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon (JSOW) is the product of a joint venture between the United States Navy and Air Force to deploy a standardized medium range precision guided weapon, especially for engagement of defended targets from outside the range of standard anti-aircraft defenses, thereby increasing aircraft survivability and minimizing friendly losses.

The JSOW family of air-to-surface glide weapons are 1,000 lb (450 kg) class weapons that provide standoff capabilities from 15 nmi (28 km) low altitude launch and up to 60 nmi (110 km) [citation needed] high altitude launch. The JSOW can be used against a variety of land targets and operates from ranges outside enemy point defenses.

May 4th, 2013, 11:51 pm

 

Mick said:

What? There is a confusion about Hariri’s role in Lebanon in regard to Israel?

I’m shocked?

Maybe I’ve not been told of his great plans to defend the air/ground/political influence of Israel against Lebanon.

Please enlighten me!

He is bringing Western SAMs in to defend the airspace from the U.S., France or Saudi?

I’d love to know his plans to make Lebanon independent.

Just what are his plans to make sure Lebanon isn’t overflown by Zionists every day?

The world would LOVE to hear this.

May 4th, 2013, 11:58 pm

 

Visitor said:

The highway from Damascus to Suweida is now completely liberated thanks to the efforts of the holy warriors of Nusra and associates. The highway is now free from Assad filth.

May 5th, 2013, 12:00 am

 

Mick said:

Maybe there is a reason Hariri lives in Paris and Nasrallah lives in Lebanon.

May 5th, 2013, 12:01 am

 

ghufran said:

The Israeli attack on Damascus is the second one within less than 4 months and it will not be the last, go back to previous posts and you will see that I talked about why Israel will attack and how is that will not help the rebels or topple the regime, in reality those attacks strengthen regime propaganda that Israel and the rebels are on the same page. Israel was and still is Syria’s strategic enemy and the main obstacle to peace in the Middle East,Israel will try to attack any country or power that may pose a threat to its military dominance in the region, and this apartheid state has the most to gain from Syria’s war and the shia-sunni divide.
Not enough information is available about the attack but at least 3 sites were bombed, I find the cheering by some that military installations were hit by Israel to be disgusting but predictable, I also look at claims that the attacks were conducted by rebels to be humorous and somewhat stupid.

Here is what Jonathan Mann at CNN wrote about a possible US intervention:

Americans have no appetite for more overseas campaigns. A new New York Times/CBS News poll found that 62 percent of respondents say Washington has no responsibility for the fighting in Syria. Only 24 percent feel Washington does have an obligation to intervene. It’s hardly a fringe group but not enough to make any leader confident about intervening in a distant conflict.
There is no obvious reason to doubt that the president, like many Americans, is appalled by the bloodshed in Syria. There is also no obvious reason to expect that he will do anything more, any time soon.
(Obama will not start another war but he will let Israel and the rebels do the dirty work, after all, why to intervene if bad and crazy people who do not like America, as seen by many Americans, are killing each others?)

May 5th, 2013, 12:14 am

 

revenire said:

Ghufran: “those attacks strengthen regime propaganda that Israel and the rebels are on the same page”

It isn’t regime propaganda. The Zionists and the “FSA” are allies in every way possible.

May 5th, 2013, 12:34 am

 

ghufran said:

nobody in the CIA or the Pentagon believes that Sarin was used in Syria, claims otherwise are promoted by people who want another invasion of an arab country in the name of bringing democracy and freedom.

Here is what a former senior official in the US said:
(JPost.com)
A former senior official in the Bush administration said on Thursday the use of chemical weapons in Syria might have been a “false flag operation” of Israel, meant to implicate Syrian President Bashar Assad.
“We don’t know what the chain of custody is. This could’ve been an Israeli false flag operation, it could’ve been an opposition in Syria… or it could’ve been an actual use by Bashar Assad. But we certainly don’t know with the evidence we’ve been given. And what I’m hearing from the intelligence community is that that evidence is really flakey,” retired Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell’s former chief of staff, told Cenk Uygur in an interview with Current TV.
(current TV is being bought by aljazeera)
Given this “flimsy evidence,” Wilkerson doesn’t believe a red line has been crossed in Syria, and that the US should not base its intervention in the war-torn country based on such evidence.
Wilkerson criticized Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu harshly, saying there is a “geostratigically, geopolitical inept regime in Tel Aviv right now.”
“We saw really startling evidence of that in the fact that [US] President [Barack] Obama had to tell Bibi Netanyahu, ‘pick up the phone, you idiot, and call Ankara and get yourself out of this strategic isolation you’re in right now, do a reconciliation with Turkey, the most powerful country in the region,’ otherwise Bibi probably wouldn’t have done it,” he said.
He also said the prime minister was “clueless” as to the grave security situation Israel is in.

May 5th, 2013, 12:39 am

 

Syrialover said:

In its vicious frenzy to do God-knows-what against the people of Syria, the Assad regime has wilfully constructed a situation where Syrians are now unprotected by their state and at the mercy of Iran, Russia, islamic extremists and Israel.

Unbelievable.

May 5th, 2013, 12:40 am

 

ghufran said:

more on public opinion regarding a military intervention in Syria

in a Pew Research Center survey conducted in March 2013, before news emerged of the alleged use of chemical agents, nearly two-thirds (64%) of Americans were against even arming the rebels.
At the time (March 2013) there was even less stomach for military assistance to the rebels. Eight out of 10 Germans (82%) opposed the idea, as did more than two-thirds of the French (69%) and a majority of the British (57%).
Public opinion in the region is even less supportive of Western involvement. In five of the six countries in the region that were surveyed in March – Lebanon (80%), Turkey (68%), Tunisia (60%), Egypt (59%) and the Palestinian territories (63%) – publics opposed Americans or Europeans supplying the Syrian rebels with weapons. Only in Jordan (53%) did people back Western intervention and then only barely.
People in the region do not even want their own government to get involved. Even the Turks (66%) and the Lebanese (60%), both of whom share a border with Syria and now house hundreds of thousands of refugees from the civil war, oppose Arab military aid to the rebels. And only the Jordanians (65%) back Arab countries sending arms and military supplies to anti-government groups in Syria.

May 5th, 2013, 12:53 am

 

Syrialover said:

MICK #71 asked:

“Who is stopping Lebanon from getting an air defense that is capable of making sure Israel doesn’t use its airspace whenever it wants?”

Er, lack of state funds and political stability?

May 5th, 2013, 12:56 am

 

Syrialover said:

All the Assad regime’s fake public games and actual private understandings with Islamic extremists and the government of Israel have now exploded in their face.

They are way, way out of their depth.

May 5th, 2013, 1:03 am

 

Syrialover said:

Mick in #70 thunders with this question:

“Who is stopping Lebanon from getting an air defense that is capable of making sure Israel doesn’t use its airspace whenever it wants”

Er, lack of funds, capability and organized stable government?

Sorry to disillusion you Mick.

(We know Hezbollah liked to boast that role, but that was silly street kid fantasies.)

May 5th, 2013, 1:14 am

 

ghufran said:

There is panic in Banyas after what the city has witnessed in the last few days, hundreds of people are fleeing the area expecting more fighting and more blood shed, but not everybody seems to be afraid of that scenario, some still believe that the new troubles in Banyas are related to what is going on in Qsair Homs.
The longer this war continues, the harder it will be to keep Syria in one piece, the regime may let Idleb and aljazeera go but there is no sign that a retreat is on anybody’s mind when it comes to coastal areas.
Those of you,pro and anti, who think that violence and force will end this war are wrong and have been wrong for 2 years,The right thing to do is to impose a cease-fire, let a third-party monitor it, and allow Syrians to choose what type of country and government they want,sadly enough that third-party does not exist yet.

May 5th, 2013, 1:53 am

 

revenire said:

Syrialover = Zionist

May 5th, 2013, 2:58 am

 

MarigoldRan said:

Retard = retard.

EDIT: This is too easy.

May 5th, 2013, 3:07 am

 

ann said:

Unprovoked Attack on Syria: US-backed Israel Commits Egregious International Crime – May 5, 2013

The US feigns disassociation with Hitlerian act of Israeli aggression – as was planned since 2007

The West has carefully cultivated Israel into “regional bully.” Immune from international condemnation, it is now being used to commit egregious war crimes against neighboring Syria, in hopes of provoking a retaliation and giving the US and its regional axis the justification it has long sought to militarily intervene

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2013/05/unprovoked-attack-on-syria-us-backed.html#more

May 5, 2013 (LD) – Unprovoked, Israel has attacked Syria numerous times over the past 2 days, including attacks on the Syrian capital of Damascus, in what appears to be a series of intentional provocations designed to drag the region into a wider conflict its US sponsors can then enter militarily. Neither attacked directly by Syria, nor able to cite credible evidence in regards to perceived threats Israel claims to be reacting to, the assault on Syria represents a Chapter VII breach of the United Nations Charter.

What’s more, is that while the US feigns disassociation with Israel’s breach of international peace, after jointly fueling a genocidal sectarian conflict within Syria’s borders for the past two years, it is documented fact that the US and Saudi Arabia planned to use Israel to conduct military attacks against Iran and Syria, they themselves could not justify politically, legally, or strategically.

What is now hoped is that Syria and Iran retaliate militarily, allowing the “other shoe to drop,” and for the US, UK, France, and their regional axis to directly intervene in Syria, and with any luck, Iran.

Insidious Ploy Engineered and Documented in 2007-2009

As early as 2007, it was reported that a US-Saudi-Israeli conspiracy to overthrow the governments of Iran and Syria by arming sectarian terrorists, many linked directly to Al Qaeda, was already set in motion. Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh in his 2007 New Yorker article, “The Redirection,” stated (emphasis added):

“To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.”

Of Israel and Saudi Arabia’s partnership it specifically stated:

“The policy shift has brought Saudi Arabia and Israel into a new strategic embrace, largely because both countries see Iran as an existential threat. They have been involved in direct talks, and the Saudis, who believe that greater stability in Israel and Palestine will give Iran less leverage in the region, have become more involved in Arab-Israeli negotiations.”

Additionally, Saudi Arabian officials mentioned the careful balancing act their nation must play in order to conceal its role in supporting US-Israeli ambitions across the region. It was stated even then, that using Israel to publicly carry out attacks on Iran would be preferable to the US, which would ultimately implicate the Saudis. It was stated:

“The Saudi said that, in his country’s view, it was taking a political risk by joining the U.S. in challenging Iran: Bandar is already seen in the Arab world as being too close to the Bush Administration. “We have two nightmares,” the former diplomat told me. “For Iran to acquire the bomb and for the United States to attack Iran. I’d rather the Israelis bomb the Iranians, so we can blame them. If America does it, we will be blamed.””

This ploy was further developed in 2009 by the Fortune 500-funded (page 19) Brookings Institution in their document, “Which Path to Persia?” In regards to Iran, and now clearly being utilized against Syria, the gambit was described as follows (emphasis added):

“…it would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be. Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.) ” -page 84-85, Which Path to Perisa?, Brookings Institution.

And:

“Israel appears to have done extensive planning and practice for such a strike already, and its aircraft are probably already based as close to Iran as possible. as such, Israel might be able to launch the strike in a matter of weeks or even days, depending on what weather and intelligence conditions it felt it needed. Moreover, since Israel would have much less of a need (or even interest) in securing regional support for the operation, Jerusalem probably would feel less motivated to wait for an Iranian provocation before attacking. In short, Israel could move very fast to implement this option if both Israeli and American leaders wanted it to happen.

However, as noted in the previous chapter, the airstrikes themselves are really just the start of this policy. Again, the Iranians would doubtless rebuild their nuclear sites. They would probably retaliate against Israel, and they might retaliate against the United States, too (which might create a pretext for American airstrikes or even an invasion).” -page 91, Which Path to Perisa?, Brookings Institution.

And Israel not waiting for a plausible justification to attack Syria is exactly what has just happened. It should also be noted in particular, the last paragraph which gives insight into what the US-led axis plans to do after this egregious international crime – that is – to incrementally engulf the region into a conflict it finally can justify its own entry into open military aggression.

What Should Syria and its Allies Do?

Syria, Iran, Russia and other nations that support the besieged nation most certainly were aware of the Brookings document “Which Path to Persia?” and familiar with this strategy. It would be hoped that anything of value that the Israelis would seek to attack in order to provoke a much desired retaliation and subsequent war, would have been provided additional protection, or moved entirely out of range of potential Israeli attacks.

A media campaign to illustrate the hypocritical and very revealing convergence between Al Qaeda (the so-called Free Syrian Army or FSA) and Israeli interests would undermine whatever remaining support the battered and failing Western-backed terror campaign inside Syria may still have.

Additionally, Israel’s selection by the US to carry out this attack was done specifically because Israel has long-ago exhausted its international legitimacy. What it is doing in Syria is a blatant international crime, in direct violation of international law. Currently, Syria and its allies hold the moral high ground against an enemy who is no longer fooling the world. If it is calculated that Syria can survive Israel’s unprovoked brutality, it would be best to do little or nothing, and incur internationally the same outrage that accompanies Israel’s brutality against the Palestinians.

In light of the US using Israel as its proxy against Syria, should Syria and its allies retaliate, it would be best to do so through any proxies they themselves have at their disposal. Just as Hezbollah and the Palestinians now routinely defeat Israel both strategically and politically, Syria now faces an opportunity to do so again, only on a much bigger scale.

The outrageous actions of Israel, the despicable double-game the US attempts to play by feigning disassociation with its regional beachhead in Tel Aviv, and the silent complicity of the UN, has people around the world desperately seeking retaliation from Syria, or Iran, or both. In reality, this is precisely what the West hopes to achieve – a wider conventional war in which they hold the advantage. By refusing to retaliate directly, Syria cripples the West politically, highlighting the unprovoked nature of their attacks on a nation they claim is a threat, yet fails to strike back even when its capital is under bombardment. By responding through its own plausibly deniable proxies, tactical and political pressure can be put on Israel to end its aggression.

It appears that the Western-backed terrorist front in Syria has been dealt a fatal blow and is in the process of complete collapse. The attack by Israel is a sign of desperation, seeking to expand a conflict that is about to end.

[…]

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2013/05/unprovoked-attack-on-syria-us-backed.html#more

May 5th, 2013, 3:16 am

 

Citizen said:

Eyewitnesses: Israel Drops ‘Nuclear-Type’ Bomb On Damascus, 2 Israeli Jets Shot Down, Assad To Declare War On Israel
Check out the pic of the big blast!

http://beforeitsnews.com/israel/2013/05/eyewitnesses-israel-drops-nuclear-type-bomb-on-damascus-2442046.html

Chief conductor of the Symphony Maestro of democracy!
what type of original Bunker Buster bombs notes here you gave us!
Kasiun already glows at night? amazing Mr Obama! your lines is not red
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJdt2FKCEAEOge-.jpg:large

May 5th, 2013, 3:35 am

 

Citizen said:

Damascus: Strange odors throughout the capital city are causing runny eyes and coughing

May 5th, 2013, 3:44 am

 

Citizen said:

Thousands of Damascenes are taking refugee in shelters with more than 40 explosions heard throughout the city

May 5th, 2013, 3:46 am

 

MarigoldRan said:

The Assadists’ stockpile of mustard gas got blown up.

The mountain will be unlivable for a while. The Assadists wanted to use chemical weapons, and instead it blew up in their faces, literally.

They just lost one of the biggest ammunition depots in the country. Who knows how many Iranians and Assadists died in that explosion.

May 5th, 2013, 3:55 am

 

Citizen said:

Defense Ministry strategist Amos Gilad said:
“Syria has large amounts of chemical weaponry and missiles. Everything there is under [Assad government] control,”
http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_05_04/Assad-in-full-control-of-chemical-arsenal-Israeli-official/

May 5th, 2013, 4:27 am

 
 

apple_mini said:

I admit if Israel is about to launch a full-fledged war against Syria. The regime will not survive.

Syrians are facing two wars now: one is against the aggression by Israel and the other one is against the radicals.

Yes, Syria is at the mercy of the west, the BRICS and all other ME countries.

But the decisive fighting is still within Syrians. Have we seen through what this so-called revolution is about now?

Syrians must be united and show their will. Not a single Islamist has ever declared Jihad against Israel.

Israeli will only understand peace and humanity after they get hurt and suffered. They must pay for what they have done to Syria.

May 5th, 2013, 4:48 am

 

Altair said:

Just in case anyone needed a reminder who the real enemy is, the Zionist entity is always ready to provide one.

Any Syrian who shoots or bombs or orders to kill another Syrian out of political reasons is not only an idiot, but a traitor.

May 5th, 2013, 4:55 am

 

Citizen said:

?? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ??? !
??????? ???? ??????? ??? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ???? ?????? !

May 5th, 2013, 5:40 am

 

Visitor said:

We must set our priorities straight.

Syria has two enemies. One enemy is within and the other is without.

The enemy within is Assad, Hizbistan and thugs.

The enemy without is Israel.

Our priority as Syrians is to fight the enemy within first until it is defeated and Shjism is eliminated. This fight must take the form of holy war.

May 5th, 2013, 6:01 am

 

MarigoldRan said:

Actually, most Syrians have decided that the Assadists are the worse enemy.

The war continues.

May 5th, 2013, 6:20 am

 

Citizen said:

Obama, like his predecessors, is not a good political awareness!
He plays with Russia (in the attack Israeli planes) in an attempt to tug of war! But the Russian could also go for a potentially painful answer! The interactions of the two states are shown in the comments about being deceived surreal stories! The United States is in fact repeated Israeli aggression on purpose, the Pentagon and the Department of Defense is the command center.

May 5th, 2013, 6:36 am

 

Citizen said:

Mr The war continues.
when reading your regular comments created impression that you suffer a heavy reliance on blood thirsty!

May 5th, 2013, 6:46 am

 

Badr said:

“The Assadists’ stockpile of mustard gas got blown up.”

Marigoldran,

How do you know for sure, that was the target, rather than advanced weapons destined for Hizbullah?

May 5th, 2013, 6:46 am

 

Hanzala said:

Meng military airport in Aleppo finally taken after a year long siege! Hamdullilah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NYPxkhf3Ns8

May 5th, 2013, 6:49 am

 

Citizen said:

Filming from a cameras belonging to customers of Israel!
Just shows how desperate the West is in the war their proxies has been losing in Syria.
http://youtu.be/f_j8ID-m1pU?t=39s
http://youtu.be/kkEoR-7D4jk?t=1m3s
http://youtu.be/e84pVGsP6YU?t=6s
An Israeli warplane was shot down by Syrian air-defense units during a raid near Damascus early Sunday, Hezbollah’s Manar television station reported, citing security sources in the Syrian capital.

May 5th, 2013, 7:08 am

 

Visitor said:

Meng liberation is a resounding victory.

May 5th, 2013, 7:08 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Several questions
there were over 40 explosions,then there was a huge explosion from which a mountain of billowing smoke ,was that because of a missile or a store of weapons has exploded.?
aeroplanes appeared in the sky,this will be very unusual at the time of missile are launched,it is not reasonable.
over 40 explosions is not from one missle, most likely from planes.
Israel usually attack one place this attack involved several places,that is not usual for Israel
Would Russia do something if it was really Israel who did it?

Citizen said Syria should declare war against Israel, Do you believe what you say?
With huge attack like this,if Israel has done it,then Israel must admit that,why are they so quiet?

May 5th, 2013, 7:51 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Congratulation to the FSA for Mennegh airport takeover, it is great victory

May 5th, 2013, 7:53 am

 

Citizen said:

Israel is clearly playing with fire, trying to provoke Syria missile strikes on the response. After all, once the real war begins with Syria, Al Qaeda will have to make a difficult choice: to publicly acknowledge its tacit strategic alliance with Israel and the U.S. (which is unlikely) or to turn against Israel and the Americans (most likely). Then no U.S. aid will not save the aggressor state.
In the meantime, the Wahhabis are happy bombing of military research center at Mount Kasioun. Explosions were unusually large force of detonation and missile gaps at 2 am local time, even on the other side of the Syrian capital opened doors and windows.
—–
Majed ! /Citizen said Syria should declare war against Israel/ be accurate! please give the source!

May 5th, 2013, 8:05 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

89. Citizen said:

Eyewitnesses: Israel Drops ‘Nuclear-Type’ Bomb On Damascus, 2 Israeli Jets Shot Down, Assad To Declare War On Israel

another question
it was stupid of HA to say they are fighting inside Syria, now Israel will justify attack in Syria

May 5th, 2013, 8:14 am

 

Observer said:

Well once again a real military Marshal of the Syrian Forces would
1. Strengthen the defenses of the research facility

2. Move it to a secure location.

But apparently Takrar la youlam al himar in this situation.

Why would the regime continue to use the same research facility and why would they continue not to defend it.

Iran is now offering to train the Syrian Army. I thought that we had been paying billions of dollars and 60 years of emergency laws and a military service of 2 and half years for every male so that we can be prepared for a war against Israel.

So now we need Iranians to help us with training our forces right?

Mikdad says that Israel has declared war on Syria. I guess this is a prelude to activate the mutual defense treaties and bring in officially any troops from Iran.

Then this would be great news for those that wish to exhaust Iran in Syrian quagmire.

Now I am sure Iran is going to send troops and more weapons. The question is to which airport will it do so? Aleppo or Damascus?

The message is clear. Red lines can be enforced if need be as Israel demonstrated.

Let us see if Iran has red lines and whether it will enforce them.

A glimpse to the mind set of protagonists on this comment section is priceless.

Two Israeli pilots will be shown on Klingon TV soon. They will be cloaked though as the empire has mastered the art of dissimulation and obfuscation.

May 5th, 2013, 8:14 am

 

sandro loewe said:

Assad and Nasrallah are respectable mafia cappos. This is a proven fact. But when it comes to real-politiks they are a pair of idiot clowns. Kulu hara khayawanat!!!

May 5th, 2013, 8:19 am

 

Citizen said:

Majed!
In the comment ?:89 I pointed to the source! Open the link and read the text!
http://beforeitsnews.com/israel/2013/05/eyewitnesses-israel-drops-nuclear-type-bomb-on-damascus-2442046.html

that’s what I said
(Chief conductor of the Symphony Maestro of democracy!
what type of original Bunker Buster bombs notes here you gave us!
Kasiun already glows at night? amazing Mr Obama! your lines is not red)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJdt2FKCEAEOge-.jpg:large

May 5th, 2013, 8:23 am

 

Visitor said:

Is Bashar dead?

May 5th, 2013, 8:28 am

 

Citizen said:

109- Majed
I wish all the Syrians, the opposition and pro-government line-up against American aggression carried out on Damascus by Israeli aircraft !!!

May 5th, 2013, 8:29 am

 

Tara said:

What is the rabbit going to do? Lay low and lick his wounds? Any declaration? How about we “reserve our right to respond later”? Not even that! Come on now.

Where is the other rabbit with a head piece and a beard? Any declaration from him yet? Play more song, thumb your chest, celebrate Ashura and kill more children in the name of zainab and company. They are good at it.

The FSA is reported to have fire mortars on HA in Zainab shrine.

May 5th, 2013, 8:44 am

 

zoo said:

No one could imagine that any Syrian would cheer an Israeli attack on his/her cherished capital.
I don’t know how to call that, treason, shame, mental degradation?

Israel has been trying to destroy Hezbollah and neutralize Syria for years. Now that Syria has been weaken by some of its own people who allied with Islamists and criminals to call for ‘freedom’, and now that Hezbollah intervened to protect shia minority threatened by the Sunnis extremist, Israel decided it was a good time to weaken even more the legitimate Syrian forces, humiliate and provoke Hezbolla under an alleged attack on weapon delivery. Of course the USA, France and the UK are jubilating

The anti-Bashar have succeeded in that: Destroy the national sense of the citizens, force their exodus, divide the county and weaken it to offer on a golden plate to Islamists who will transform into an Afghanistan. They should be really be proud of themselves.
I congratulate the blind and infantile revolutionists with their narrow and petty view of what they were wishing their country to become after toppling the man they hate.
Now it is clear that it is their country they hate because they are doing little to save it from destruction and desintegration.

May 5th, 2013, 8:56 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The Asshead should say something on TV at least

Russian news said over 300 soldier has died, we can assume there are wounded, probably over thousand.

May 5th, 2013, 9:01 am

 

Visitor said:

“116. ZOO said:

No one could imagine that any Syrian would cheer an Israeli attack on his/her cherished capital.
I don’t know how to call that, treason, shame, mental degradation?”

Idiot, you can’t be for real!

You have been cheering massacres day in day out.

F*ck off!

May 5th, 2013, 9:06 am

 

zoo said:

The response of the Syrian government to the Israeli-rebels collusion is obvious even if it will not be stated openly.

Now that the evidence that some of the rebels are the proxies of Israel in a war to destroy Syria and Hezbollah, they will treated as such.

Note that no reports of human casualties have been reported in the numerous Israeli attacks: it is true that there are no women and children in these centers to call it a ‘massacre’, and anyways these centers are managed by robots.

May 5th, 2013, 9:09 am

 

Visitor said:

What are the Mullah idiots saying?

http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/arab-and-world/2013/05/05/?????-????-?????????-?????-?????-??????-???-?????-?????????.html

1) They will train more thugs for Bashar.
2) they want the Arabs to fight Israel so Bashar and Nus-lira can go on a a killing rampage in Syria.

Are these guys idiots? They just declared war upon Sunnis?

Are they expecting help from Sunni states?

Idiocy has no limits with these thugs.

There should be a holy war declared against Shiism. This creed must be declared illegal throughout the Arab and Muslim worlds. Shiism must be eliminated once and for all. This is a creed originating from satanism. It should be treated as such.

May 5th, 2013, 9:13 am

 

Tara said:

Iran has repeatedly said it will defend Syria if Israel attacked. This was supposedly a redline.

The line is now pink!

Iran’s response was declaring its readiness to train the Assad’s army.

Can’t possibly get any weaker. Can it?

May 5th, 2013, 9:13 am

 

zoo said:

#117 Majed

300 soldiers dead? does it qualify for a ‘massacre’?

May 5th, 2013, 9:15 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
What you are suggesting is that Asshead take revenge ,not against Israel,but against Syrians

May 5th, 2013, 9:19 am

 

zoo said:

#121 Tara

Any tears for the 300+ soldiers killed by Israel? I doubt.. you seem so glad to see Syrian national’s army killed and weakened, I am sure you are one of the cheerers of the attack on Damascus.

Don’t worry, the heroic Syrian Army will stand because the Syrians who live in Syria and are loyal to their country will support it even more now.
The credibility of the opposition is going down the drain among Syrians living in Syria.

May 5th, 2013, 9:21 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Meanwhile, the murder rampage continues in Banyas, I wounder if the regime loyalists will now be rewarded with homes in Banyas. Not only murderers, but also high-way robbers, thieves, and scum of the earth. I guess some of the posters here may already have gone on exploratory trips to Banyas for property selection.

Mustafa Aljarf
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May 5th, 2013, 9:22 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

No Zoo
Those dead are soldiers and not peaceful civilians, it is not a civilian massacre
Those weapons that has been destroyed Asshead was using them against Syrians, it was good they were destroyed

May 5th, 2013, 9:23 am

 

Visitor said:

The number of killed must be over 3000 thugs. We should not call them soldiers.

Brigade 104 is completely obliterated, in addition to many dead from brigade 105 and the Fourth Division. A brigade is usually 3000 to 5000.

In any case good riddance!!

May 5th, 2013, 9:24 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Thieves

May 5th, 2013, 9:26 am

 

zoo said:

#123 Majed

Ask him… or ask your insider friends who gave you the predictions of the 3 falls of Damascus, they know better.

May 5th, 2013, 9:27 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Meanwhile, the murder rampage continues in Banyas, I wounder if the regime loyalists will now be rewarded with homes in Banyas. Not only murderers, but also high-way robbers, thieves, and sc..m of the earth. I guess some of the posters here may already have gone on exploratory trips to Banyas for property selection.

Mustafa Aljarf
“??? ????? ?? ????? ????????? ?? ??????
??? ??? ????? ??????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ???? ?????? : ????? ???? ????? ?? ??????? + ??? ?????? ??? ???????.
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?????? ??? ???? ????????
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……………………………………………
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????? ??????? ?????? ??? ????? ??????????? ? ????? ???? ??????? ?????!

May 5th, 2013, 9:27 am

 

Tara said:

Zoo,

I am sure I can learn lots and lots from you but you certainly can’t teach me humanity or morality. You have lost all yours yesterday.

I begged from you to condemn the massacre of children yesterday. Did you do it?

May 5th, 2013, 9:27 am

 

zoo said:

Majed

I see, these people are not Syrians like you, they have no wife and children.

Like most of the hysterical Syria expats, you are cheering their death, I am not surprised.

May 5th, 2013, 9:41 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

The question is to which airport will it do so? Aleppo or Damascus?

Mennegh (???)!

May 5th, 2013, 9:43 am

 

zoo said:

#130 Tara

Thanks…

May 5th, 2013, 9:43 am

 

Altair said:

So the response of the Syrian regime to the Zionist entity’s attack should be to get tougher with the rebels. Great. How heroic.

How about going after the source? I mean, if Hizbullah can hit back at the Zionists, why can’t an actual state with greater firepower than Hizbullah do it?

I’d also like to add that I’m dismayed and saddened by all the sectarian talk on this board. I hope it doesn’t reflect in any way the reality in Syria. I believe there are some who have manipulated this conflict into making it a Sunni-Shii one, others who are just unwise or downright stupid into thinking in sectarian terms.

Sectarianism is the fuel of Zionism, its very foundation. After all, the “Jewish” state is based on sectarianism. There is nothing better for Zionists to support than sectarianism. It divides everyone into smaller groups that can be easily dominated and keeps them busy fighting each other and not the original sectarian state that masquerades as a “democracy”.

The Syrian Uprising began not as a sectarian conflict, nor should it turn out that way. It began as a rebellion against the humiliation that the regime inflicts upon its people. Let’s stay focused!

The fact is, Hizbullah is the only organization, non-state actor or otherwise, that has successfully confronted the Zionist entity. When’s the last time you heard of Saudis or any other so-called “Sunni” regime doing that?

May 5th, 2013, 9:49 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
Their wives and children are NOT dead.

Visitor
We don’t know the exact number,you may be right, or it may be over 10,000 wounded,this is a setback to Asshead,who may be now Assdead,we don’t know,and I doubt we will know the exact figure
The Mennegh airport news are significant and no one from SC thugs are talking about it, we know Asshead ability to defend his hiding place in Damascus is weaker.
Would there be another attack against the fourth division in the near future? that will be important to save Damascus from this criminal thugs.
I expect Asshead is reconsidering his options now,things are getting worse not better for him

May 5th, 2013, 9:58 am

 

Hopeful said:

#131 Zoo

I, for one, never cheer the death of any Syrian. I do blame, however, the leader of the county for his inability to defend his people. Any leader who fails to defend his people should step down.

You ask how it has become that Syrians would cheer for an Israeli attack on Syria? Ask that question to the incompetent leader of the country who led his nation to this fate.

The information minister gives a speech? Are you kidding me? Where is the leader?

Assad is an incompetent big-head failure.

May 5th, 2013, 10:04 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo said # 119
it is true that there are no women and children in these centers to call it a ‘massacre’,

then Zoo said #122
300 soldiers dead? does it qualify for a ‘massacre’?

can you make up your mind? You seem to forget what you say from one comment to the other ,and within few minutes,Are you mentally O.K.

May 5th, 2013, 10:11 am

 

Mina said:

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/70711/World/Region/You-cant-fight-alone-The-Middle-East’s-coming-prox.aspx

many interesting elements here. it was the end for the “window of opportunity” for some certainly.

May 5th, 2013, 10:12 am

 

Hopeful said:

#134 Altair

I agree with you. The sectarian talk on this board is very troublesome. However, can we for once stop blaming Zionists, Americans, Jews, etc. for problems WE created ourselves?

This Sunni-Shiia divide has been going on for over a thousand years. Long before Israel and the US ever existed. Both sects teach their children that they are the right path to Islam. Many teach their children hatred to the other.

The Syrian revolution is turning into a sectarian war not because of Israel but because of 1) regime’s policies and 2) the rotten religious education embedded in our society.

May 5th, 2013, 10:14 am

 

Hopeful said:

Syrian TV is talking about conspiracy and cooperation between Israel and Al Qaeda.

What are these people smoking? They cannot be serious! Have they lost all sanity?

I think Israel is sensing that the war in Syria will escalate, and they want to take no chance that Assad will pass along weapons to Hizbullah to fire at Israel. Nasrallah was clear last week that he would come to Assad’s aid. Israel just sent its response.

May 5th, 2013, 10:23 am

 

zoo said:

Israel may join defense pact with Saudi Arabia, UAE

Jordan and Turkey to also play role in US-brokered plan to contain, rather than thwart, Iran, London’s Sunday Times reports

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-reportedly-may-join-defense-pact-with-saudi-arabia-uae/

Israel is working on joining an anti-Iran defense alliance with a number of moderate Arab states that would involve sharing Jerusalem’s newly developed anti-missile technologies, a British newspaper reported Sunday.

The plan would see Israel join with Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, to create a Middle Eastern “moderate crescent,” according to the Sunday Times, which cited an unnamed Israeli official. Israel does not currently maintain formal ties with Riyadh or Abu Dhabi, and relations with Ankara have been strained since 2009.

May 5th, 2013, 10:24 am

 

Dolly Buster said:

Jews have suffered tremendously in World War 2. We must stop the new Hitler Bashar al Assad before he uses chemical weapons on a larger scale.

May 5th, 2013, 10:31 am

 

Visitor said:

Nus-lira said last week, from Tehran, that he will not allow Assad to fall.

Israel told him yesteraday, I have the final say.

Nus-lira understood the lesson and never fired a single shot skyward or southward to make good on his words. We know Nus-lira used to brag about having anti-aircraft systems. Where are these systems? As far as we know the Israeli planes came from ‘his’ Shebaa farms that he is so adamant and eager to ”liberate’!!

It looks like the axis of ‘resistance’ and ‘reluctance’ is nothing but empty talk. You guys be careful of getting electrified by resistance or magnetized by reluctance.

May 5th, 2013, 10:33 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

I agree with you. The sectarian talk on this board is very troublesome. However, can we for once stop blaming Zionists, Americans, Jews, etc. for problems WE created ourselves?

Hopeful,

Thanks. Maybe you are one of the 2 green thumbs I received in my first 2 posts on this thread!

So basically, after two years 80000+ dead, a million refugees, ruined towns and cities, the Syrian Poster God has no other card to play than the Hezbo one.

We all knew that card would be played at some juncture and now it has. Surprise!

Interestingly, the GOI could work in collaboration with the opposition (since they both understand the dangers of Syrian Baathism), but, I guess, that would be “beneath” them.

Pride can cost a lot of lives.

The enemy without is Israel.

Our priority as Syrians is to fight the enemy within first until it is defeated and Shjism is eliminated. This fight must take the form of holy war.

Visitor,

So after you defeat Assad and Shiism, you’re going to defeat “Israel”?

Sounds like a steady job. I wonder if this is what Syrians want or just something you want.

May 5th, 2013, 10:34 am

 

zoo said:

#140 Hopeful

The CIA is openly present among the opposition and it is known to cooperate with Israel’s Mossad.
The idea that there is a collusion between the opposition and Israel via the CIA is not far fetched, it is highly probable.

May 5th, 2013, 10:36 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

It is conspicuous Akbar Palace is not making any comment

May 5th, 2013, 10:37 am

 

Dolly Buster said:

Btw Some fools & knuckleheads were saying that Syria has been armed by Russia and therefore has nothing to fear from Nato attack because of these state-of-the-art Ruskie defenses.

Result: The kik?s freely fly in and destroy everything and come back.

So, we have proven that Russia is no match for sophisticated Western weapons.

May 5th, 2013, 10:40 am

 

Altair said:

#139 Hopeful

I agree that the regime is to blame for sectarianism (and it’s Alawi v. Sunni, not Shi’i v. Sunni, but that’s another matter in the complex Middle East).

But I didn’t blame Zionism for creating the Sunni-Shii divide, rather of fueling it and benefiting from it. And anyone else who falls into the sectarian trap serves the Zionist entity.

I’m also making the point that the greatest sectarian force in the region is the Zionist entity itself. It is a sectarian state, the first state created SOLELY on the basis of religion, and on a twisting and manipulation of a great religion for that matter.

I’m also appealing to everyone to remain focused on principles, the principles of justice, the right to self determination, government by consent and not by force, the right not to be tortured and humiliated by your government, etc. Remember the tortured boys in Dar’a or Hamza Khatib?

Many have a very hard time staying focused because of emotional responses to this conflict. It is unwise, and unproductive and eventually very harmful to everyone.

May 5th, 2013, 10:46 am

 

Visitor said:

MajedK,

Akbar Palace just made a comment.

He is upset that we, Syrians, do not show appreciations and express thanks to Israel.

It is hard to explain to people like Akbar, who live in denial particularly about the evil nature of the US admins, that Syrians will NEVER thank the likewise evil Israeli entity for anything they do, even when they kill Assad thugs.

Akbar,

Fool not yourself. Israel is the enemy of all Syrians and not just Visitor. Whether we, Syrians, will seek to defeat Israel after we defeat the criminal thug is yet to be determined.

Israel must abandon is current policies and seek to be accepted by its neighbors. Otherwise, we cannot predict the future.

Syrians are anti-EVIL. The US admin is Evil and the Israeli entity is Evil.

May 5th, 2013, 10:46 am

 

Hopeful said:

#145 Zoo

Of course what YOU say is probable – the US is assisting the rebels (that’s not a secret, and not enough as many would claim) and the US always assists and supports Israel. But that is not what THEY are saying on Syrian TV. They are talking about conspiracy and collaboration between Israel and Al Qaeda.

May 5th, 2013, 10:48 am

 

Syrialover said:

Well whoever it is doing the precision hits against military targets in Damascus is proving competent. In powerful contrast to the regime’s forces and its Farsi-speaking advisers.

As one commentator said, the Israelis (or whoever) know Assad is a weak puddle of piss which is why they aren’t bothering to target his hideout though they easily could. Better to let him end up cowering in a sewer pipe.

Ordering Nusrallah to send in his boys seemed like a brilliant idea in Teheran, just like every other stupidity they cook up there.

Hasn’t anyone else here read what the analysts say about Iran not having what’s needed to take on a proper military engagement? It never recovered from the Gulf war with Iraq, and instead the Mullahs are forced to rely on exporting terrorism, threat and bluff to push their cause.

May 5th, 2013, 10:51 am

 

Hopeful said:

# 148 Altair

Ok I agree that Israel benefits from the sectarian divide, and I agree that Israel defined as a “Jewish” state is by definition sectarian. But I believe the focus on that is a distraction. The Sunni-Shiia divide is something we need to address independently from Israel and the west. Bringing them into the conversation invites rhetorical discussions and distracts from the main issues. Just my 2 cents.

May 5th, 2013, 10:55 am

 

revenire said:

A rat meets his end in Syria at the hands of the army.

May 5th, 2013, 10:59 am

 

revenire said:


A rat shot in his read end running away from the army. LOL

May 5th, 2013, 11:00 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Dr. Evil

Syrians are anti-EVIL. The US admin is Evil and the Israeli entity is Evil.

Visitor,

I’m not convinced. I’m not convinced that your “Evil List” is just made up of these 2 actors, countries, and/or “imposter” nations.

Can you think of some more people that are Evil than these 3? What about Shiites? Didn’t you say THEY were evil too?

Our priority as Syrians is to fight the enemy within first until it is defeated and Shjism is eliminated. This fight must take the form of holy war.

So perhaps you (or someone else) can take a few minutes (or hours) to compile the full list of opposition parties in Syria (List 1) and another for all the countries and people of the world you consider “EVIL” (List 2).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Evil
____________________

The number of killed must be over 3000 thugs. We should not call them soldiers.

Brigade 104 is completely obliterated, in addition to many dead from brigade 105 and the Fourth Division. A brigade is usually 3000 to 5000.

In any case good riddance!!

Visitor,

Al-Nusra did not “oblterate” these “3000 thugs”. Israel did.

I, myself, do not celebrate when people are killed. They all have family. But Israel, like all countries, has the right of self-defense. I know that is something some of us have difficulty wrapping our brains around.

BTW – I am still amazed at some very good posters here. I want to thank Observer, Hopeful, Dolly Buster, Marigoldran, Syrialover and Majedkhaldoun (and others).

May 5th, 2013, 11:12 am

 

Syrialover said:

# 139. HOPEFUL

I was talking to someone who has just returned from several months working in Iran, spending time in several areas.

Her observations bring home how little the Mullahs represent the nation they are controlling:

– Iranians are a decent, good people

– they have little idea what their “government” is doing in Syria and are shocked and disbelieving if told. But they are nervous about discussing anything the mullahs are doing – it’s a police state run on terror and informants.

– mosque attendance is astonishingly low and displays of piety rare putside the enforced dress code for women. Religion seems to be now associated with the State and less important to Iranians than it is in other parts of the ME.

May 5th, 2013, 11:13 am

 

Pas Cool said:

” It is a sectarian state, the first state created SOLELY on the basis of religion”

You might wanna rethink that one. Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932 and is all about islam. None other than a muslim is even allowed to enter Mecca, which is but one of their pervert ways.

May 5th, 2013, 11:25 am

 

Visitor said:

Akbar,

You should know why I consider the US admin as evil. Because, as I mentioned repeatedly and proved to you with compelling evidence, it staged the 9/11 events and caused the death of 3000 of its own people. You continue to live in denial. Well, that is up to you. But the facts are not going to change.

Israel is evil because it was born as a bastard state and caused the misery of millions of Palestinians. Israel must be dismantled. But I am not saying that the Jews who live in Palestine must leave or be killed. They should be content to live under Palestinian rule, because the land belongs to the Palestinians and not to these immigrants who came from all corners of this earth. They have no right to take over the land. If the Jews agree to live by our rules, then I see no problem of them getting integrated. We must defeat the evil inherent in the process in which this abomination (Israel) came into being. Because evil will only beget evil.

You ask if there are other evil entities. yes, of course there is. But you should only concern yourself with the US admins and Israel. That’s what you care about and you made it clear on more than one occasion.

Now, I never celebrated the killing of the 3000 thugs. But at the same time I made it clear that I will not shed a tear on any of them. They chose to serve EVIL and they met their EVIL end by their own choice. Interestingly, they may have perished at the hands of Evil (Israel) as you claim. In which case there is nothing to worry about as Evil consumes Evil.

But I would say it was Nusra who did it through its holy war. Israel will NOT seek to kill the thugs of its most loyal ally (Assad). Every Syrian knows that.

May 5th, 2013, 11:27 am

 
 

revenire said:

Seems the Zionists killed a lot of chickens at a poultry farm. Maybe this was Chicken Brigade 104?

May 5th, 2013, 11:38 am

 

Tara said:

Reve,

Ha Ha Ha. As long as they mount no response, the name chicken brigade is well deserved. Thank you.

May 5th, 2013, 11:41 am

 

revenire said:

Tara Israel didn’t bomb Assad – Israel bombed Syria.

May 5th, 2013, 11:42 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Akbar Palace
We finally heared from you
Al-Nusra did not “oblterate” these “3000 thugs”. Israel did.

So you admit that Israel did it. as most analysts said, my question, why did Israel attacked the whole Liwaa 104, and 105 and the fourth division, and not only the place where those missiles that were intended to HA?
Was it that Israel intended to weaken Assad(asshead)? could that be that USA has asked Israel to do it?they sure want to send a message to Assad that using chemical weapons will not be tolerated.

I want to say Israel has nothing to do with Arab spring,so why Israel wants to weaken Assad?Israel could attack HA in Lebanon.
Another point is future Syria is not in a way in the next 30 years able to fight Israel, why to do it? Iran and HA and Assad pose more threat to the peace in the middle East, Israel must have recognized that.

If Iran is smart they should know that to work with the opposition,and quit spreading Shiaism is more important to Iran interest than protecting Assad, if opposing Israel is a priority, cooperation with rebels will keep this Iran Syria alliance strong and HA will be safe ,but they chose to spread Shiaism is more important to them,and wants to fight Sunni, they are misguided.

May 5th, 2013, 11:48 am

 

revenire said:

Brother Majed didn’t get enough rest again: Israel acted in concert with their Al-Qaeda/FSA/Nusra Front allies to attack Syria, just as they have been all along.

Brother Majed has a hard time understanding world politics and strategies.

Brother Majed is a Zionist lover and a traitor. That is why he lives in Colorado not in Syria.

May 5th, 2013, 11:55 am

 

Dolly Buster said:

Visitor, 9/11 was definitely not false flag. Imagine what kind of team is needed for 9/11. It’s definitely not 2 guys pulling this off — it would be more like 200 guys. So what are the odds that 200 Americans were willing to kill 3000 Americans, and then successfully stayed quiet about it for 11 years? Basically zero.

Of course, it can nonetheless be shown that America is in fact Evil. One example is when people like Bush, Palin, Coulter wanted to kill innocent people for Christianity. So they went into Iraq and cooperated with the Shiite Nouri al Maliki to achieve this murderous goal.

May 5th, 2013, 11:56 am

 

Hopeful said:

#156 SL

This is very encouraging. Thank you for your post. Every Iranian/Persian I met in my life (and I met many in the West) is a kind, smart, open-minded person. Iran is a great nation with great potential. I hope one day they will get rid of the tyranny that rules them, and unlock their potential as a civilization.

I have often dreamed of the “United States of the Middle East” – one that includes all the human potential of Arabs, Kurds, Turks, Jews, Persians, etc. With all the diversity, history, resources, and human capital of this region, there is no reason to remain oppressed and poor.

May 5th, 2013, 11:58 am

 

Tara said:

Reve

Syria is not chemical weapons and the 4th brigade. Both used by the regime to kill children. As a poster here said, I do not celebrate death but I have not a single tear to spend on children killers.

Celebrating death is regime supporters’ speciality and they are good at it.

May 5th, 2013, 12:03 pm

 

ghufran said:

There is no reason for Nusra and Israel Ghilmans to argue here, they are both fighting the same enemy: the Syrian army, and they are both defending terrorists: group (Nusra) or a state (Israel).
I agree that if Syria does not respond, nobody will believe anything that comes out of the Syrian government even that it is clear that Israel did what it did to start a war that gives her (Israel) an excuse to hit Lebanon and occupy southern Syria.
This is a perfect time to identify Syrian patriots who understand that opposing the regime does not mean supporting Israel’s actions,and traitors who are cheering the death and destruction in Damascus on the hands of Syria’s natural enemy.
Expat opposition is becoming like Cuban opposition in the US, they have been barking for 50 years but were only able to make life harder for their cuban “brothers” while the regime in Cuba remained largely intact since 1959.
While I understand why GCC, Turkey and many Muslim groups and individuals oppose the regime in Syria, I have to confess that the lack of condemnation of Israel’s actions from the “defenders” of Islam is very distressing, it tells a lot about who those leaders are and where this Umma (Islam) is going.

May 5th, 2013, 12:08 pm

 

Visitor said:

Dolly Buster @165,

You are an idiot of the highest rank. STFU because you don’t know what you are talking about.

Next time when you mention the name of al-Hussein, make sure you are respectful. Otherwise, there is no need for idiots like you to make bombastic nonsense.

May 5th, 2013, 12:08 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Celebrating death is regime supporters’ speciality and they are good at it.

Well said TARA and supported by all the posts from exactly the same hypocrite you were addressing.

May 5th, 2013, 12:11 pm

 
 

revenire said:

The Syrian soldiers – most of whom are Sunni – killed children? No, no they didn’t. They don’t kill children – that is Zionist propaganda repeated by expat traitors.

Israel attacked Syria and murdered Syrians.

May 5th, 2013, 12:14 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

So you admit that Israel did it.

Majedkhaldoun,

I am privy to the same internet info you are. The GOI admitted it and I believe them.

as most analysts said, my question, why did Israel attacked the whole Liwaa 104, and 105 and the fourth division, and not only the place where those missiles that were intended to HA?

To be honest, I don’t know what the IDF hit or how many perished in the bombing. The GOI doesn’t give a lot of detail, obviously, so we can begin the conspiracy theories as usual!

I imagine, from the little they’ve said, that they hit more modern, long-range Iranian missiles possibly capable of handling WMD headed toward the Hezbo “heroes” who are also helping Assad stay in power.

Was it that Israel intended to weaken Assad(asshead)?

Israel, like the US, would prefer to stay out of the Syrian civil war. Really, Israel doesn’t care about Assad, they only care about the safety of their own Jewish, Arab and Christian citizens. Whatever keeps Israel safe is what they care about.

could that be that USA has asked Israel to do it?

No. Basically the understanding is that the US was made to understand the danger of these weapons in the hands of Hezbo and that Israel had the right to disrupt this.

they sure want to send a message to Assad that using chemical weapons will not be tolerated.

Yes, the message (from Israel at least) is now clear.

I want to say Israel has nothing to do with Arab spring,so why Israel wants to weaken Assad?

I repeat. Israel only cares about their own security. The rest is insignificant.

Israel could attack HA in Lebanon.

And vice-versa. Israel is not in Lebanon, and so Israel doesn’t want to give the Hezbos and excuse to escalate.

Another point is future Syria is not in a way in the next 30 years able to fight Israel, why to do it?

Israel doesn’t think 30 years in the future. They think in the present.

Iran and HA and Assad pose more threat to the peace in the middle East, Israel must have recognized that.

Now you’re talking like a Zionist. Please stop!

If Iran is smart they should know that to work with the opposition,and quit spreading Shiaism is more important to Iran interest than protecting Assad, if opposing Israel is a priority, cooperation with rebels will keep this Iran Syria alliance strong and HA will be safe ,but they chose to spread Shiaism is more important to them,and wants to fight Sunni, they are misguided.

More than smart, Iran is a suicidal theocracy. They’re allowing Iran to fall like Syria, all in the name of bringing on the 12th imam or whatever their religion dictates. They, like so many in the ME, are rigid and intolerant.

Which is why I am encouraged to engage with you Majedkhaldoun! I’ve learned over many years that not all muslims are terrorists.

May 5th, 2013, 12:16 pm

 

Altair said:

#152 Hopeful

Then we disagree on very little. It’s only a matter of emphasis.

I’m absolutely convinced that the setting up of a “Jewish” state was a very bad precedent to the region and the world (not to mention to Judaism itself). It’s the same or like-minded proponents of Zionism who propose Sunni and Shi’i states in Iraq for example, and will do the same for Syria in the form of Druze and Alawi states, as the French unsuccessfully did in the past (they succeeded with Lebanon unfortunately). And whoever shouts “Christians to Beirut or Lebanon” is also complicit in this crime.

But I totally agree that Sunnis and Shi’is need to resolve their differences once and for all. I mean, the caliphate doesn’t even exist anymore, and it was an argument over caliphal succession that started this silly problem 13 centuries ago.

Better yet, keep religion at home and faith in one’s heart and agree on basic principles like torturing or humiliating your neighbors, whatever faith they follow, is not moral nor acceptable. I don’t know why that’s so difficult for many to get.

May 5th, 2013, 12:20 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Wonderful news. To see what a fake insincere jokester REVENIRE is, you can now compare his efforts with the real deal.

The infamous regime booster SYRIANCOMMANDO has rushed back online after 4 months of silence, after quitting in disgust at Assad’s weak response to the January attack by Israel.

The return of Israel has him roaring out of his cave again. A true believer with eyes blazing and fists raised. Very different from the clown here who makes feeble automated bleats about rats and zionists.

I’ll post some SYRIANCOMMANDO tweets below.

It’s an insight into the thinking of a genuine pro-regimist who is new feeling betrayed by Russia and Iran and Assad himself

May 5th, 2013, 12:27 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

HOPEFUL and SL

Generalization can go both ways when one is talking about such a large group as Iranians. No group is all good, nor all bad.

Iranians are like all others, a peoples with potential. But also like all others, the range of behavior among them ranges from neurotic to wonderful with decent being the largest majority. The description of the Iranian’s Hopeful met in the west is rather similar to what I would say, but without using the word every but most. Same thing I could say about Russians, Swedes, Germans, and so on.

I am always reminded of George Washington’s farewell speech:

In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

May 5th, 2013, 12:31 pm

 

ghufran said:

This is the true face of the GCC:

Millions of Syrian refugees face food rationing and cutbacks to critical medical programmes because oil-rich Gulf states have failed to deliver the funding they promised for emergency humanitarian aid, an investigation by The Independent on Sunday has found.
Arab states and aid groups, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Bahrain, have failed to deliver $650m (£420m) in pledges they made at an emergency United Nations conference in Kuwait four months ago.
Saudi Arabia pledged $78m. As of 1 May, the kingdom was recorded as contributing $21.6m. The United Arab Emirates pledged $300m. It has given $18.4m. Qatar, which will spend tens of billions hosting the 2022 football World Cup, pledged $100m to the UN effort. It is recorded as delivering $2.7m. Bahrain, which last month hosted a Formula One grand prix at a recently built $2bn circuit, pledged $20m. There has been no recorded aid given since

May 5th, 2013, 12:34 pm

 

Sami said:

I went to sleep last night and I remembered what I loved about my Damascus, the City that I am so proud to be a son of.

I remembered my days at Andalous Pool watching Khalou and his friends play volleyball and eating the best french fries from Abu Fayez, sneaking my first cigarette and then my first kiss in the changing rooms below.

I remembered the first day of Eid Al-Kibeer when my Grand Mother bought me a special set of clothing for Eid, I wore it and went to Jahiz Park with her. I rode my first horse then, and in later years had my first accident there renting a scooter for a fatleh around the park.

I remembered the time I convinced my teacher to take me and my classmates to bumper cars at the Ma3rad. Abu Shafe3 taught me tennis and basketball in the back of there, on cold days his son Shafe3 would teach me riddles.

I remembered the day my Dad and I walked through Old Damascus. We spent the day exploring and him pointing out the different houses to me. We went to the Al-Seddiq for lunch had a bowl of lentil soup and a triple decker plate of shawarma 3al fa7im.

I remembered the Fridays we sat around the sufrah with all of our extended family and ate fool from booz aljedi. In the summer we would go to Mora eat a wonderful feast and watch the stream go by, the fortune tellers coming by and telling the mothers their children will be either doctors or engineers. Spring time we would go to Ghouta and have a picnic under the trees my mother and her siblings planted with my Grand Father when they were children.

I remembered the Janarek, Fousto2 Halabi, and the Sabarah. The Mousa7ab Sandwich from UNO, the Brosted from Al-Sufarah, and the greasy pizza from Pizza New

I remember going to the store with my friends renting time to play Need For Speed and Winning Eleven on the first Playstation and the countless hours we spent playing Counter Strike trying to khouref each other.

I remember the school bus and how we would sing songs like Suf Al-3askar, and Ya chauffeur Na7na ewlad Philistine.

I remembered the sliver of light that would sneak in through the abajour, the tap the gas cylinder salesmen would tap on his cylinders from atop of the Suzuki to inform you he is in the neighbourhood. The Kaakeh bil Dibs, the corn that was always baydah baydah baydah.

I remember the first time I visited my family’s chocolate factory in my excitement and haste to emulate Charlie I ruined an entire batch of chocolate which they had to throw out. From then on no matter how old or responsible I got I am still known as the mi2zi one in the family.

I remember in the summer I would go up to Qassuon and friends and I would smoke an argileh while watching the city go by underneath us. I can see her right now, with all her green lit minarets and church bells, cars honking and micros clogging up the roads.

My Damascus won’t ever die because it survives through us and our memories. There is nothing inherently special about Dimashq other than its inhabitants that keep the city eternal who will never allow it to die.

I am pro-revolution with every inch of my body and soul, damn Israel and its aggression on my country, damn Assad and his cronies for burning my country.

May 5th, 2013, 12:35 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

174. Altair said:

I’m absolutely convinced that the setting up of a “Jewish” state was a very bad precedent to the region and the world (not to mention to Judaism itself).

Altair,

You are free to express your feelings. So am I. A jewish state is not a bad precedent, especially if the jewish state is free and provides equality for all her citizens. As a jew, Israel is totally consistent with Judaism.

IMHO, the problems in the ME have nothing to do with the “setting up” of any nation. It is how these nations are governed.

May 5th, 2013, 12:39 pm

 

revenire said:

Sami the traitor isn’t ashamed about supporting Israeli aggression on his homeland. He might write a long, boring love letter to Damascus but his people are being murdered by the Zionists.

May 5th, 2013, 12:42 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Murderers shouting “Murder!” NewZ

…but his people are being murdered by the Zionists.

Reverse,

Coming from a regime supporter, who applauds the SAA for firing deadly bullets indiscriminately into peaceful Syrian demonstrations as well as the indiscriminate bombing of Syrian towns and mosques, I hope you realize your comment rings “somewhat” hollow.

May 5th, 2013, 12:48 pm

 

annie said:

I agree with Robin Yassin-Kassab when he says and yes, it is possible

“isn’t it possible to absolutely oppose israel and its self-interested interference and at the same time to absolutely oppose the fascist assad regime and its deliberate sparking of regional sectarian war, its endless massacres, its destruction of syria’s heritage and infrastructure?

isn’t it possible to support the syrian resistance, despite the presence of salafist extremists and plain traumatised people who do unwise things?

so many so-called anti-imperialists are unable to do these things at the same time. why? the minority regime in syria is, like israel, also the result of the sykes-picot carve up and divide and rule machinations of 1916 to 1948” and also on fb

“assad responds to the israeli attack by escalating his sectarian massacres on the coast and his bombardment of syrian cities, including the palestinian refugee camp at Yarmouk. Infantile so-called ‘anti-imperialists’ everywhere cheer on assad’s heroic resistance”.

May 5th, 2013, 12:52 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Lets cool down and do a little analysis.

Israeli air strikes are sneaky maneuver in military sense. They took advantage of weakened Syria and took the targets they had been hoping to get on even before the Syrian crisis.

As far as for the response from the regime, it is a delicate issue. If the attacks from Israel push the regime to the corner, they have no choice but to go out and take a big risk to retaliate. I do not believe it is there yet. Israel did what they had calculated. They did not want to provoke too intolerable.

HB might be helpful to do something to put pressure on Israel.

Cheerleading for Israeli attacks by the opposition no longer infuriates us. The opposition is nothing without seeking political solution with the regime. The opposition does not have influence over the rebels. So it carries no weight in current situation.

The opposition are depressed when the regime is gaining military momentum. If the rebels are making more ground, the opposition hail the victory. But in reality, the opposition cannot even make a single town held by the rebels to be “democratic” as they have been trying to convince everyone they are fighting for “freedom” and “hope” for new Syria. Let alone the whole country.

The opposition are using every means to bring down the regime, even the whole country is going down with it.

Syrians have seen enough and heard enough of them. And Syrians say No to the opposition.

The regime has a tough propaganda war to work on facing the new aggression by bastard Israel.

May 5th, 2013, 12:58 pm

 

revenire said:

Terrorist rat meets his end in Kherbet Ghazalah.

TO HELL

May 5th, 2013, 12:58 pm

 

Observer said:

There is no such thing as a Syrian Army it is a group of thugs militia to do the mafia work and to use conscripts as drivers and gardeners for the officers that are going to invade the Golan with their Mercedes Benz and BMW stolen from Lebanon.

There is no constitutional basis for the use of the so called armed forces in civilian areas according to the new constitution and to the fact that the state emergency has been abolished.

So thousands were killed and injured and some propaganda dumb ass minister says all options are on the table.

I am holding my breath.

May 5th, 2013, 1:01 pm

 

revenire said:

Apple_Mini Israel and the West want a direct Syrian response so they can accelerate their attacks on Syria. It is a trap.

It is also an attempt to prop up their rats but that won’t work. The army’s operations have increased nationwide and we can expect them crying about new “massacres” soon.

May 5th, 2013, 1:02 pm

 

Altair said:

#182 Akbar Palace

This kind of takes us off-topic, since I was relating sectarianism of the Zionist entity to Syria and the proponents of dividing Syria (and Iraq) on sectarian grounds, but:

Tell me where in the Israeli Constitution is equality for all guaranteed for its citizens. Can’t find it? Not surprising since there is no Israeli constitution.

Is there anywhere in Israeli law that equality is guaranteed to all? Quote it for me. I’m not sure about that one.

And if equality is guaranteed somewhere, why isn’t it practiced? That it is not practiced you can be sure. You have to look no further than housing policy to figure that one out, a housing policy that started with dispossessing as many Palestinians of their homes as possible that continues to this day.

Ask yourself also, is there civil marriage in the “Jewish” state?

Yes, you are free to assert that there is equality in the “Jewish” state. But that doesn’t make it true.

(Also, off the subject, do you mind me asking why you call yourself Akbar Palace? It sounds vaguely like a Muslim reference, and you just posted that you are Jewish. Just curious).

May 5th, 2013, 1:03 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Forget ZOO, REVENIRE, APPLE_MINI and the usual regime spinners and posters of video nasties

Here’s what Assad’s supporters are now REALLY thinking.

SYRIANCOMMANDO, notorious pro-Assadist, is furious, bewildered and in despair at the current strikes on Damascus and lack of response. He’s not hiding his pain.

His friends like Sharmine Narwani are tweeting efforts to soothe and strengthen him, but he’s not having it.

Here are some of his honest responses.

Tweets by SYRIANCOMMANDO:

– The Syrian government just gave israel the green light to destroy it. F**** morons.

– We have the power to annihilate israel, but it has the same power over us. I think its time for an exchange, yes.

– ZioPutin was on the phone with Assad for more than an hour begging him not to respond to his darling israel.

– Syrian deputy FM says Syria will retaliate …. In its own way and time. LOL BULLSH** YOU COWADS

– So much for Syria’s alliances with Iran, Egypt, Russia. Assad must be feeling betrayed at this point

– Iran chief of staff just vowed retaliation. Taking bets on whether it is a bluff or not

– This attack by Israel changed everything. If Syria does not retaliate, the war is already lost.

– Wait a few hours for retaliation or the fall of Syria

– They (the rebels) are an infinite army you can’t kill them

– (In response to comment Russia will do nothing) I’m with you, neither will Iran. Both have cowered away.

– Unfortunately our leader is still being potty trained. He got nuked and didn’t have an immediate response prepared beforehand.

– In retaliation for nuking Damascus, Iran offers to train Syrian soldiers. Oh and they condemned it and made some empty threats too!

– It destroyed a missile research facility and killed our scientists it’s not just morale, they are draining our power away

– Assad just lost his negotiating tool, the weapon he never intended to fire

– This attack changes everything from a military perspective, there’s nothing preventing further attacks now

– I hate to say it publicly but it’s either treachery from the top or a break in the chain of command. Syria had a plan for this scenario

– We can still win, we have four more missile complexes. Clear opposition areas with chemical weapons and start the war NOW.

– Thousands of Syrian soldiers have perished. Communication with jabal qasyoon HQ was lost.

– Russian defense minister must have given israel the green light to start war in Syria

From: https://twitter.com/syriancommando

May 5th, 2013, 1:06 pm

 

Syrialover said:

SAMI,

Thank you for #181.

That is beautiful.

You remind us of the true spirit and nature of Syria. And that Syrians will rebuild their country.

May 5th, 2013, 1:15 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The next attack will be against the fourth division, then Assad will be very weak, today he is still attacking Ghouta area, his revenge should be against Israel not against Syrian, Asshead has no decency

The news from Mennegh airport, is that there was a general who killed the head of the airport and seven others and defected, the airport is not freed completely yet.

May 5th, 2013, 1:17 pm

 

Syrialover said:

# 179. SYRIAN HAMSTER

Good points. But I wasn’t just over-generalizing about Iranians. My point was that their autocratic and stupid theocracy does not reflect or represent their culture and society.

Many outsiders made the same remarks about Syrians and the contrast between the nature and behaviour of the Assad regime and the nature and behaviour of the Syrian people.

It also makes you wonder how far the Shia-Sunni thing would run if left up to the Iranian population.

May 5th, 2013, 1:25 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ANNIE #185

I agree, agree. Well put.

Here’s more good thoughts on the issue by Maysaloon:

Blog article: Might does not make right.

Again and again the Syrian revolution is condemned as some kind of foreign “conspiracy” that is aimed against the self-described bastion of Arab resistance to Israel. Last night’s Israeli attack against an Assad regime research facility in Damascus has brought out of the wood work all sorts of individuals who, silent in the face of the massacre in the coastal city of Banyas for the past three days, have suddenly found their voices. The similarity in the pictures we saw coming out of Banyas this past few days were truly horrific, and reminiscent of the images we saw from the Sabra and Chatilla massacres during the Lebanese civil war. Yet these self-styled anti-imperialists did not retweet and angrily condemn these murders. They chose silence and wilful ignorance instead.

Today they are trying to portray the Israeli air raids last night as an attack on Syrian sovereignty, as if that is not what Assad has been doing to Syrians for the past two and a half years. Apart from the evident hypocrisy of this position, there are also two fallacies underlying their argument. Firstly that the Syrian regime represents Syria, and that an attack on it is an attack on the country and its people, and the second is that Israel did this in support of the Syrian revolution.

With regards to the second point most Syrians, including those who support the revolution, are missing the fact that Israel hasn’t got the slightest concern about the Syrian revolution or the Syrians who are dying. It is focused first and foremost in its battle with Iran and Hezbullah, and has consistently stated that it will not let the more advanced weaponry in Syria’s arsenal falling into Hezbullah’s arms. When it attacks Assad’s bases and arsenals, it is doing so with a clear strategy.

Syrians supporting the revolution should neither cheer nor lament the involvement of Israel’s attacks on Assad’s arsenal. From a practical point of view it is very much an advantage to the revolution (armed as well as peaceful), as it is far better for the regime’s arsenal and advanced divisions to be obliterated than that they be used against Syrian towns and villages. We have seen the piles of bodies in Banyas and countless Syrian villages and cities, on a week so close to the anniversary of the Houla massacre perpetrated by Assad regime thugs, and these images will forever be engraved in the collective memory of Syrians. Never again must we allow ourselves to be in such a position, that Syrians be slaughtered like sheep in an abattoir.

To cheer for Israel’s attack on Assad, apart from being misguided, makes the mistake of siding with one oppressor against another. How different is it, then, that people would side with Iran simply because it claims to be fighting for the Palestinians? This is a fallacy, and more importantly the answer is not to wag the finger at Israel and claim that once we finish with Assad we will drive over and liberate Jerusalem in a Golgotha of blood. International law, human rights, and morality are with us as they are with the Palestinian people, and it is through this path that we can then achieve true justice for all and make good cause with good people across the world.

True Syrian sovereignty begins with us as people and not as a regime. It is when we realise this simple political fact that we can decide how best to champion the cause of oppressed people the world over. We as Syrians, and the Syrian transitional government should take note, have a unique opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, and to be a shining beacon of human rights and democracy not just to the Middle East but to the world. We can and should create a national self-belief that we are a unique mix of people who will never accept might as right.

A Syria committed to human rights and the rule of law will protect itself from Israeli missiles and warplanes far better than expensive, and largely ineffective, Russian S-300 air defence systems. When we become the change that we have fought for so fervently, we will become far better champions for the downtrodden than all the divisions of Hezbullah and Iran put together.

http://www.maysaloon.org/

May 5th, 2013, 1:35 pm

 

Citizen said:

AP
3 Russian-Chinese ???? do not meant for Israel admin. ?
stock up on tablets for diarrhea from fear!

May 5th, 2013, 1:45 pm

 

revenire said:

“193. MAJEDKHALDOUN said:

“The next attack will be against the fourth division, then Assad will be very weak, today he is still attacking Ghouta area, his revenge should be against Israel not against Syrian, Asshead has no decency

“The news from Mennegh airport, is that there was a general who killed the head of the airport and seven others and defected, the airport is not freed completely yet.”

When the army attacks the rats it IS attacking the Zionists. Each dead rat is a dead Zionist mercenary.

Yesterday, and a few months ago and a year ago, you reported Mennegh had fallen.

Brother Majed Colorado has fine rest homes where you could “get your head together” – any chance a friend could drive you to one today? A few of us are concerned.

May 5th, 2013, 1:49 pm

 

revenire said:

FIRST POST – MAY 5, 2013 – NATO TERRORISTS ANNIHILATED IN TARTOUS, HOMS, ALEPPO AND DAMASCUS; RAT STATS; NEWS ABOUT JAMRAAYAA; PROPAGANDA AND NEWS

TARTOUS:

RA’S AL-NABI’: (??? ?????) near Banyaas. We can confirm the deaths of 51 rodents at this battle which followed yesterday’s SAA triumph over Salafist vermin at Al-Baydhaa. Because we have relatives there on the scene and have direct contact with Wael who is in Tartous now, we have an excellent picture of what transpired and how the SAA and militia wiped out an entire Takfeeri presence in this beautiful governorate.

With Al-Qusayr being cleaned out as we write and Lebanese traitors pleading their case with the SAA for mercy, and with Al-‘Utayba undergoing spring renewal, and with Der’ah experiencing much-needed respite from the cockroaches who had previously infested it, it seems only right that the rats would try to move into the coastal areas to make their last stand. Not so lucky!!

Yesterday, a unit of rodents attacked a military checkpoint and killed 4 of our troops. News of the outrage reached Central Command and the SAA responded immediately by surrounding the area into which these FSA rats converged: a little town called Ra’s Al-Nabi’.

Ra’s Al-Nabi’ lies at a crossroads east of Tartous giving the town easy access to the lovely mountainous resorts that dot this lush area of Syria. Unfortunately for the rats, the mountains east of Tartous are overwhelmingly ‘Alawi and Christian which means they can find no succour anywhere. They had to remain on the flatter coastal plain where they were enveloped by the darkness of our Syrian Army.

Wael says that the anger which filled every soldier after the news of the attack on the army checkpoint was visible on each face. This was vengeance, pure and simple. The commander of the Syrian Army there, a branch of the Second Army Corps, had command also of the 3rd Special Forces Regiment and over 300 militia members champing at the bit for action.

With snipers in place and mortars firing at will, the rats were decimated within a half-hour after which time SF and militia charged their positions and exterminated them. Here are the verifiable names:

‘Umar Fakhkhoor
Muhammad Al-Rubay’i
Muhammad Shamseddeen
Daawood Ghabar
Ibraaheem Abu-Saaliha
Zhaafer Khulayfaawi
Adham Zaydaan
‘Aaref Al-Saaqi
Burhanuddeen Jubayli
Sameer Muhammadaani
Mahmoud Hutayt
Jaaber Abu-Khaleel
Ahmad Bujayji
Anees ‘Ammaar
Saadeq Shaafi’iy

I am tired of orthographically rendering all the names. If you insist on a complete list in one of your communications, I will add the rest. Otherwise, there are 17 who cannot be identified or who have “code names”.

I have to go and will discuss the Zionist missile attack tomorrow.

May 5th, 2013, 2:04 pm

 

Visitor said:

We are told in this Manar report, that Hizbistan will now use Maggi soup to compensate for lost chicken. We are also told that ‘his excellency the supreme commander of thuggocracy’ has just decided to wear military uniforms,

http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/arab-and-world/syria/2013/05/05/????-??????-??????-???????????-???????-??????-??????-.html

I am impressed and……breathless!!

May 5th, 2013, 2:09 pm

 

Tara said:

Zoo

You asked me a question and Maysaloon writing that SL linked @195 best summarizes my position and yours.

I am grateful to Maysaloon for his eloquent ability to put many of out thoughts on paper

May 5th, 2013, 2:09 pm

 

ann said:

Syria Warns Israel of ‘All Possibilities’ After Strikes – May 5, 2013

“There is a feeling of tension when we hear about what is happening in the area,” the mayor of the northern town of Kiryat Shmona, Mayor Rabbi Nissim Malka, told the Haaretz newspaper. “Residents are calling the municipal hotline and asking questions like ‘are the shelters open?’ or ‘are classes being held as usual?'”

http://abcnews.go.com/International/syria-warns-israel-possibilities-strikes/story?id=19113228

Syria responded angrily to the overnight air strikes on military targets that it accused Israel of carrying out, warning that the attack “opens the door to all possibilities.”

“We will not accept to be humiliated,” Syrian information minister Omran al-Zoubi said at an afternoon press conference. “We are all in a state of anger. We are abused by this attack.”

Syria accused Israel of “coordination” with the extremist rebel groups it is fighting, including Jabhat al-Nusra, which has pledged allegiance to al Qaeda’s leadership.

The chief of staff of the armed forces in Iran — which is allied with Syria and Hezbollah — warned that “[Hezbollah] forces will respond to the Israeli aggression. … Iran will not allow Israel to destabilize the region.”

Syrian state media said the Syria cabinet convened an emergency session to “discuss the Israeli aggression.”

The Arab League, which largely backs the rebels in the Syrian conflict, blamed the strikes on Israel and called them a “dangerous violation of an Arab state’s sovereignty.”

[…]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/syria-warns-israel-possibilities-strikes/story?id=19113228

May 5th, 2013, 2:24 pm

 

ghufran said:

Israeli attacks pose a new challenge for the Syrian government, it is a reminder that Israel is emerging as a big winner from the Syrian war, one major problem today is that the Syrian army is fighting rebels inside Syria and is now under attack by Israel.
Things would have been different if the regime chose a different path on March 18th 2011 and did not use the army to defend the regime instead of defending the country, now the army is supposed to do both !!
initial information from hospitals in Damascus are in sharp contrast with the alleged 3,000 fatalities,some sources suggested that cruise-type missiles were used and not just ASMs, at the end of the day Israel is likely to keep doing this type of attacks as long as they go unpunished.
Look at this resonse coming from an opposition figure:
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this is from Egypt:
???: ??? ?????? ????????: ??? ???? ???????? ??? ???????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?????? ????? ???????? ?????? ???????? ??? ?? ?????
this is from Israel:
????? ?????? ?????? ???????: ??? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ??????? ?????? ?? ??????? ??? ?????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ??? ????? ????
..and this is how one opposition group sees the attacks:
?????: ???? ??????? ???????: ??????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ??????? ?????????

May 5th, 2013, 2:44 pm

 
 

revenire said:

Ghufran I don’t agree and feel you often show sympathy for the enemy.

The “revolution” goal, from the start, was to destroy Syria. Assad could have fled to the Moon but if the puppets the West backs were not installed the result – war – would have been the same. It has nothing to do with demonstrations or any other silly things in the minds of expat traitors. It is now admitted that in Daraa, from the very start, Al-Qaeda had weapons and men planted, in order to shoot demonstrators and blame the government. In other areas of Syria weapons were buried, tunnels were dug – the conspiracy started long before 2011.

The unholy alliance of Israel/the West and the Muslim Brotherhood, and other Zionist-lovers (Al-Qaeda never attacks Israel – ever), is well documented. All you have to do is look at Twitter to see them cheering the death of Sunni soldiers today.

Incidentally, the army is on a rampage on the coast, and elsewhere, today. If the reports of massacres are true the rats living there had better run to Tel Aviv soon.

Israel is a week, paranoid state. Their attacks display their fear. Their intent is to provoke an attack so the West can bomb Syria. The best, and only, response for Syria is to destroy the West’s mercenary army – as they have been doing with great success.

May 5th, 2013, 2:54 pm

 

ann said:

UN chief voices “grave concern” at reported Israeli air strikes on Syria – 2013-05-06

“The secretary-general urges respect for national sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries in the region, and adherence to all relevant Security Council resolutions”

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665179.htm

UNITED NATIONS, May 5 (Xinhua) — UN Secretary-general Ban Ki- moon on Sunday voiced his “grave concern” at reported Israeli airstrikes on Syria, calling on all sides to “exercise maximum calm and restraint.”

“The secretary-general expresses grave concern over reports of airstrikes in Syria by the Israeli Air Force,” said a statement issued here by Ban’s spokesman.

“At this time, the United Nations does not have details of the reported incidents,” the statement said. “Nor is the United Nations in a position to independently verify what has occurred.”

Syria has deployed missile defense batteries toward Israel in response to the Israeli attack that targeted a Syrian army facility in the capital city of Damascus earlier on Sunday, media reports said.

Syria’s state media accused Israel of trying to give a boost to the Syrian rebels after their recent frustrations. The Israeli government has so far made no official comments on the reported attack.

“The secretary-general calls on all sides to exercise maximum calm and restraint, and to act with a sense of responsibility to prevent an escalation of what is already a devastating and highly dangerous conflict,” the statement said.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665179.htm

May 5th, 2013, 3:10 pm

 

ann said:

Yeah Right! 😀 😀

Egypt condemns Israeli attacks on Syria – 2013-05-06

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665162.htm

CAIRO, May 5 (Xinhua) — Egypt condemned on Sunday the recent Israeli attacks on Syria as “violation of international principles and laws.”

“The attacks would increase complication to the situation in Syria, in addition to posting a threat to the security and stability of the region,” read a presidential statement.

Egypt rejects the aggression on Syria’s sovereignty and the use of its domestic crisis under any pretext, “although Egypt strongly objects to what is happening in Syria,” it said.

The statement described the recent Israeli attacks on Syria as “a test” for the international community, particularly the UN, over Israel’s commitment to the rules of the international law.

“Egypt invites all states to bear their responsibilities in facing the recurrent Israeli violations and preserve international peace and security,” it said.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665162.htm

May 5th, 2013, 3:19 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

More of Minnigh airbase fell.

As I’ve said before: the Assadists have no political legitimacy. They get attacked by Israel and they get no sympathy.

The war continues.

May 5th, 2013, 3:19 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

The Assadists are too cowardly to declare war on Israel. Instead they say Israel declared war on them!

Well, yes, Israel has most definitely “declared war” on them. We all know this. Israel just shat on them big-time.

So what are they going to do about it? Vandalize Israel’s twitter sites?

The Assadists have become the perfect target. Israel can attack them, and the Assadists will still get no sympathy!

May 5th, 2013, 3:26 pm

 

ann said:

Regional countries slam Israeli attack on Syria – 2013-05-06

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665177.htm

CAIRO, May 5 (Xinhua) — A number of countries in the Middle East are pointing their fingers at Israel on Sunday after the latter attacked Syrian military facilities near Damascus earlier in the day.

The Syrian state TV said Israel launched an airstrike on a military research center in a suburb of Damascus before dawn of Sunday. The facility has been hit by an Israeli air raid back in January.

FLAGRANT AGGRESSION

Syria’s Foreign Ministry said in a letter to the UN that “the flagrant Israeli aggression against positions of the Syrian army underlines the coordination between Israel and the terrorist groups affiliated with the al-Nusra Front.”

“The blatant Israeli aggression aims to render a direct military support to the terrorist groups after their faltered attempts to make gains on ground,” the letter read.

Meanwhile, in a government statement read out by Syrian Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi, Damascus said Israel’s attack “opens the door widely before all eventualities.”

“Syria is a state that does not waver and does not accept humiliation and will not accept its sovereignty to be infringed upon either at home or abroad,” al-Zoubi said, warning that those who mess with Syria’s sovereignty must carefully study their options and shoulder the responsibility.

“Syria is committed to the option of resistance and whoever thinks that Syria can be breakable is wrong and mistaken and must repeat his calculations,” he added.

According to latest report of the pan-Arab al-Mayadeen TV, Syria has deployed missile defense batteries toward Israel in response to the Israeli attack.

REGIONAL CONDEMNATION

On Sunday, Egypt called the Israeli moves “violation of international principles and laws.”

Before the Sunday attack, U.S. media said a couple of days ago Israel attacked a convoy carrying missiles from Syria to Hezbollah in Lebanon in the early hours of Friday. This was confirmed by an unnamed Israeli source, although the Israeli Foreign Ministry and Israeli Defense Forces remained silent on that.

“The attacks would increase complication to the situation in Syria, in addition to posting a threat to the security and stability of the region,” according to an Egyptian presidential statement, which described the attacks on Syria as “a test” for the international community, particularly the UN, over Israel’s commitment to the rules of international law.

“Egypt invites all states to bear their responsibilities in facing the recurrent Israeli violations and preserve international peace and security,” it said.

Meanwhile, Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast called for unity among regional countries and their solidarity against Israeli threats, as Commander of the Iranian Army’s Ground Forces, Brigadier General Ahmad-Reza Pourdastan, said Iran is ready to train the Syrian army should Damascus require assistance.

“As a Muslim and friendly country, we stand by Syria and if there is a need for training (the Syrian army), we will provide them with necessary training,” Pourdastan said, while stressing that Iran will not have any “active involvement in their (the Syrians) operations,” against the conflicts that they are engaged in.

Also, Iran’s Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi said Sunday that “the Zionist regime (of Israel)’s attack on Syria, which was done with the green light from the United States, unveiled the connection of mercenary terrorists and the Zionist regime supporters,” semi-official Meher news agency reported.

Algeria also slammed the Israeli attacks as seriously violating the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of an Arab state.

The country’s Foreign Ministry spokesman, Amar Belani, said ” Algeria urges the UN Security Council to assume its responsibility through putting an end to these blatant attacks that worsen the already degraded situation in the region.”

Meanwhile, the Jordanian Professional Associations also condemned the Israeli aggression against Syria, saying “it is a continuation of Israel’s violation of the rights of the Arabs.”

“All should support the Syrians in light of this aggression,” Mohammad Ababneh, head of the associations, said, adding that the Arabs should unify their efforts in light of this aggression which seeks to deepen the crisis and differences among the Arabs.

The associations urged the Arab League (AL) not to remain silent over the Israeli actions.

The call was echoed by Lebanese caretaker Foreign Minister Adnan Mansour, who asked on Sunday the AL to take a “decisive stance” toward the Israeli hostility against Syria.

Mansour accused Israel of pushing the region to “a destructive confrontation,” and urged the AL to be decisive to “avoid further escalation.”

MOUNTING TENSIONS

In the early hours of Sunday, the Israeli army raised the degree of mobilization along the Lebanese border, with warplanes, helicopters and reconnaissance planes intensively flying over Shebaa farms, Arqoub, the Bekaa valley and many other Lebanese regions.

The UN Interim Force in Lebanon and truce monitors also intensified their patrols along the Blue Line, drawn in 2000 following the withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon.

Meanwhile, the Israeli Defense Forces said Sunday it will shut down civil air traffic in northern Israel until Thursday due to the tensions with Syria and Lebanon.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665177.htm

May 5th, 2013, 3:30 pm

 

Hanzala said:

‘The civil war in Iraq has already begun’: Politician claims conflict has started and warns it will be ‘worse than Syria’

Iraqi leaders fear that the country is sliding rapidly into a new civil war which “will be worse than Syria”. Baghdad residents are stocking up on rice, vegetables and other foodstuffs in case they are prevented from getting to the shops by fighting or curfews. “It is wrong to say we are getting close to a civil war,” said a senior Iraqi politician. “The civil war has already started.”

Its members are now able to roam freely in Anbar province where a year ago they were a secretive underground movement. In neighbouring Kirkuk, al-Qa’ida last week seized the town of Sulaiman Bec, shot the chief of police, stormed the police station and departed with their weapons after agreeing a truce with the Iraqi army.

Mahmoud Othman, a veteran Kurdish leader and MP, believes that the government in Baghdad has an exaggerated idea of its own strength and underestimates the degree to which the international environment is hostile to it. He says: “I remind them that of 56 Islamic states in the world, only two are fully Shia.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-civil-war-in-iraq-has-already-begun-politician-claims-conflict-has-started-and-warns-it-will-be-worse-than-syria-8601732.html

———————-

Islamic State of Iraq has emerged and in plain view.

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.399.399/p403x403/734657_418601274882584_1050353494_n.jpg

May 5th, 2013, 3:32 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

If Israel sneezes, the Arab governments will slam Israel.

Notice how no one on the Sunni street or in Syria has said a word about it, except possibly jubilation that the Assadists got SHAT on. The Assadists get no sympathy.

May 5th, 2013, 3:37 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

If Israel sneezes, the Arab governments will slam Israel. This is just a pro forma thing.

Notice how no one on the Sunni street or in Syria has said a word about it, except possibly jubilation that the Assadists got SHAT on. The Assadists get no sympathy.

May 5th, 2013, 3:38 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

@ Hanzala

Shrug. Better than the Iranians or the Assadists. At the least the Islamists don’t massacre women and children with knives.

May 5th, 2013, 3:45 pm

 

Visitor said:

Hanzala @210,

The current situation in Iraq is the direct result of the EVIL behaviour of US admin(s), particularly the admin of GWB II. As it is well known EVIL only begets EVIL. So EVIL Bush went into Iraq and begot the current EVIL in Iraq.

It is the duty and the responsibility of our Iraqi brothers, supported by their Syrian brothers, to undo the EVIL created by the EVIL US admin(s).

The Syrian and Iraqi people are fighting one and the same war. They both have common destiny.

May 5th, 2013, 4:09 pm

 

revenire said:


Rat in Abil makes his final journey to Hell courtesy of the Syrian Arab Army.

May 5th, 2013, 4:11 pm

 

Citizen said:

Why the Israeli PM barks all the time about the safety and the threat from Iran and sits as an inflated frog waits for a command equ from the U.S. to attack Syria??

The West has carefully cultivated Israel into “regional bully.” Immune from international condemnation, it is now being used to commit egregious war crimes against neighboring Syria, in hopes of provoking a retaliation and giving the US and its regional axis the justification it has long sought to militarily intervene.

Unprovoked, Israel has attacked Syria numerous times over the past 2 days, including attacks on the Syrian capital of Damascus, in what appears to be a series of intentional provocations designed to drag the region into a wider conflict its US sponsors can then enter militarily. Neither attacked directly by Syria, nor able to cite credible evidence in regards to perceived threats Israel claims to be reacting to, the assault on Syria represents a Chapter VII breach of the United Nations Charter.

What’s more, is that while the US feigns disassociation with Israel’s breach of international peace, after jointly fueling a genocidal sectarian conflict within Syria’s borders for the past two years, it is documented fact that the US and Saudi Arabia planned to use Israel to conduct military attacks against Iran and Syria, they themselves could not justify politically, legally, or strategically.

What is now hoped is that Syria and Iran retaliate militarily, allowing the “other shoe to drop,” and for the US, UK, France, and their regional axis to directly intervene in Syria, and with any luck, Iran.

what about Russia and China?

My comment befor
https://joshualandis.com/blog/should-the-us-intervene/?cp=all#comment-364497
318. CITIZEN said:
314. BADR
The war can end by opening a larger war = Bernard Lewis + John McCain + Benjamin Netanyahu!

May 5th, 2013, 4:33 pm

 

Dolly Buster said:

revenire said:

You live under a Wall St. dictatorship that invades and attacks other nations.

 
How is Wall Street a dictatorship, when everyone gets to participate?

If you have cash, you can open a trading account. This is what I call democracy & equal rights.

May 5th, 2013, 4:46 pm

 

revenire said:

More information from the Israeli attack. Apparently, the aircraft was seen flying over Beirut. The reason it took this route, specifically, was Israel’s protection of the pilot. If the plane was shot down, the Israeli Government needed to protect its pilot by landing in a safe-zone. The pilot is believed to have made it safely back to Israel. There is no truth to the plane being shot down.

-Leith
Syrian Perspective

May 5th, 2013, 4:48 pm

 

revenire said:

“How is Wall Street a dictatorship, when everyone gets to participate?”

You do know what a financial oligarchy is right? I don’t believe you’re that naive.

May 5th, 2013, 4:49 pm

 

revenire said:

‘Israel used depleted uranium shells in air strike’ – Syrian source

Israel used “a new type of weapon”, a senior official at the Syrian military facility that came under attack from the Israeli Air Force told RT.

“When the explosion happened it felt like an earthquake,” said the source, who was present near the attack site on the outskirts of Damascus on Sunday morning.

“Then a giant golden mushroom of fire appeared. This tells us that Israel used depleted uranium shells.”

Depleted uranium is a by-product of the uranium enrichment process that creates nuclear weapons, and was first used by the US in the Gulf conflict of 1991. Unlike the radioactive materials used in nuclear weapons, depleted uranium is not valued for its explosiveness, but for its toughness – it is 2.5 times as dense as steel – which allows it to penetrate heavy protection.

Countries using depleted uranium weapons insist that the material is toxic, but not dangerously radioactive, as long as it remains outside the body.

The source also claims the attack – if it managed to hit the objects it targeted – served more of a political than a military purpose.

“Several civilian factories and buildings were destroyed. The target was just an ordinary weapons warehouse. The bombing is an ultimatum to us – it had no strategic motivation.”

Western intelligence sources told the media that the strikes targeted transfers of weapons from the Lebanese Hezbollah movement, which is sympathetic to the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

The official who spoke to RT denies this.

“There was no valuable equipment at the site. It was all removed after a previous attack on the facility. The military losses from this are negligible.”

http://rt.com/news/syria-israel-uranium-air-strike-847/

May 5th, 2013, 4:54 pm

 

Dolly Buster said:

Visitor said:

Dolly Buster,

You are an idiot of the highest rank. STFU because you don’t know what you are talking about.

Next time when you mention the name of al-Hussein, make sure you are respectful. Otherwise, there is no need for idiots like you to make bombastic nonsense.

 
Hey r?ghead, I will curse Al-Husayn whenever I please. If you don’t like it, you can always self-flagellate.

May 5th, 2013, 4:56 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Idiots are also those who have no credibility whatsoever and still believe that issuing a fraudulent retraction of fraudulent news is going to fool anyone into thinking that they have integrity.

Fill in the space:

Defending d-sh athad whose money launderer is d-sh makhlouf, and then criticizing financial oligarchy is ……

1. delusional
2. logorrhea
3. both

May 5th, 2013, 4:57 pm

 

Visitor said:

Dolly wacko dimwit bonehead @221,

Now that you know that you know you are an idiot of the highest rank, you are free try to kiss my butt.

Get lost idiot.

May 5th, 2013, 5:03 pm

 

revenire said:

The Angry Arabs Will No Longer Fight Against Syria

It took As’ad AbuKhalil, the Angry Arab, two years to come to his senses and to acknowledge his errors:

“This was never a ‘revolution’. I among other leftists in Lebanon signed a petition early on after the events in Deraa in which we denounced the regime and mocked and dismissed its narrative of armed groups roaming the country and shooting at people. I now figure that I was dead wrong: I do believe that armed groups were pre-prepared and armed to strike when orders (from Israel and GCC countries) arrive. They had a mission and it had nothing to do with the cause of liberation of Syria from a tyrannical regime.”

It was quite obvious that the insurgency in Syria was preplanned and manage from professional outside forces. Why did it take so long to recognize that?

It seems that the Israeli air attacks yesterday were many and severe. They hit several Syrian army installations and units and are obvious outright acts of a war of aggression. The attacks Thursday or Friday on alleged “weapon transports to Hizbullah” were only a diversion to set a propaganda picture for today’s air campaign. The U.S. will at least have known of this plan. It is likely that it helped to develop the target list.

A response will come, either through Lebanon or at sea, but not immediately. Five days ago Israel called up reservists for a surprise live fire training maneuver in the north. This supposedly to hold of an immediate retaliation for the long planned attack. But it can not keep reservist in the field for long. The economic impact is too big.

This air attack happened after the Syrian army’s offense against the foreign sponsored insurgents showed some serious progress. Israel and the U.S. want to prolong the fighting. To achieve that they hit the Syrian army to “level the playing field”. As even As’ad AbuKhalil finally acknowledges their aim is to destroy Syria. Not Bashar Assad, not the government but Syria the country. Their aim has not yet been achieved.

The Israeli attack and its now obvious cooperation with the so called Free Syrian Army will have a significant negative impact on the insurgency. In the early phase many Jihadist from other countries came to Syria because they believed in the propagandized cause of overthrowing an, in their view, un-islamic regime. That early flood has already changed to a trickle. It will now run dry. Likewise many Syrian patriots who had joined the insurgency will now change their mind. Defections from the army to the insurgency had already stopped. We will now see defectors from the insurgents who will be willing to (re-)join the army. They will have valuable intelligence.

In my estimate, gained from hundreds of videos and reports, the total number of insurgents has never been above 30,000. Early on casualties were compensated for by new recruitment. But the recent gains of the Syrian army already had me guessing that the number of insurgents was in decline. Either through defections, people being just tired of it and going home or due to weapon impacts. This process will now accelerate.

This hemorrhage of personal is something neither the U.S. nor Israel can compensate for without putting boots on the ground. Something neither wants to do. A dwindling number of insurgents and the drying up of their recruitment pools, while the Syrian army can still replenish its ranks (if needed from outside the country) makes it certain that the insurgency will lose. The larger formations that currently hold territory will diminish in strength and melt away into a underground terror campaign that will be more of a nuisance than a real national danger. The Angry Arabs now more and more understand what this war is really about. They will no longer fight against Syria. Israel’s attack accelerated that process.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/05/the-angry-arabs-will-no-longer-fight-syria.html

May 5th, 2013, 5:11 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

It ain’t nothing, deal with it and pretend it hasn’t happen. rt says, and parrots –repeat.

May 5th, 2013, 5:14 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

what a disturbing image…. angry arab becoming angry arabs.
equally disturbing, but perhaps less graphic is the dedication of 650 to describe the guy’s mental state today.

May 5th, 2013, 5:28 pm

 

Altair said:

Why isn’t there condemnation of this unprovoked attack on Syria by the United Nations? Why isn’t there a special convening of the Security Council? At least an investigation into the causes and consequences, like how many died in this attack.

I mean, this is an act of war, a fairly big one.

It’s proof that the Middle East is not the only place that is a political mess. The whole world is.

Also, it’s proof that the UN is nearly as useless an organization as the Arab League is in solving political problems.

May 5th, 2013, 6:05 pm

 

zoo said:

Syrialover

A special news for you to enjoy.

Muslim Brotherhood opens direct link to rebels in Damascus

Phil Sands May 6, 2013
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/muslim-brotherhood-opens-direct-link-to-rebels-in-damascus

GAZIANTEP, Turkey // The Muslim Brotherhood recently opened direct contacts with opposition groups in Damascus, providing them with cash for the first time and promising political influence in an effort to gain their support, according to Syrians organising clandestine relief efforts in rebel-held areas of the capital.
The infusion of cash and offer of political collaboration last week came just days after the Muslim Brotherhood’s secretary general, Raid Al Shaqfa, announced the organisation would reopen offices inside Syria, after years of exile.

The Brotherhood’s largesse followed a cutback of relief assistance to some groups in the capital by the Syrian National Coalition (SNC), the officially recognised opposition alliance.

Although a member of the SNC, the Muslim Brotherhood is not solely channelling its aid through the formal opposition framework. Instead, it is independently dispensing cash and supplies in it own name, the Syrian aid organisers in Damascus said.

The move by the Brotherhood into Damascus is likely to become yet another bone of contention between groups attempting to overthrow the regime of Syrian president Bashar Al Assad. Deep mistrust, infighting that includes violent clashes between armed rebel groups and a failure to properly coordinate aid and military efforts have severely hamstrung Syria’s opposition.

The SNC has struggled to gain credibility and influence on the ground, a problem it is trying to address by appointing an interim government and providing it with resources to undertake relief efforts to needy civilians and induce rebel military factions to unite under the same leadership.

Critics of the Muslim Brotherhood, including the Free Syrian Army’s ruling joint command, have charged that it is trying to dominate the opposition and impose an Islamist agenda at the expense of efforts to oust the Assad regime

Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/muslim-brotherhood-opens-direct-link-to-rebels-in-damascus#ixzz2SSW8zxAH
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May 5th, 2013, 6:15 pm

 

revenire said:

Huge demonstrations by Syrians in Damascus now against Israeli aggression. These are REAL Syrians not expat traitors cheering as the Zionists murder Syrian soldiers (most of whom are Sunni).

The Israelis are so scared they’re arresting female jorunalists:

Palestinian journalist Sabreen Diab is sleeping in Israeli cells tonight, arrested while protesting for Syria.

May 5th, 2013, 6:15 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

1. They should first investigate the massacres in Banyas and Baida! first come first served. Then, they should investigate the Israeli attack. Otherwise, it would be double standards. I personally would like to get double condemnations. provided that the Syrian people and not the thugs of the regime be those representing the case for Syria.

2. What consequences? the regime loyalists have been saying it was a chicken coop. At least one or two ambassadors could give Jafari fifty bucks in compensation and shut him up.

May 5th, 2013, 6:19 pm

 

MarigoldRan said:

Israel bombs the Assadists. Huge explosion in Damascus.

Everyone else except the Assadists are like: “eh, they deserved it.”

A couple of Arab governments might put up some pro forma protests, but that’s about it. The Assadists are considered by many Syrians to be EVEN WORSE than Israel. That says a lot.

The war continues.

May 5th, 2013, 6:19 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo, Revenir, Citizen, Ghufran
We understand your anger, but what we don’t understand
1- what are you doing here in the USA why don’t you go back and fight Israel over there?
2- why Asshead does not respond appropriately, didn’t he said he represent resistance?
3- Why did he withdrew from the border with Israel and used his army to kill Syrians
If you have a good answers to these questions you will understand why we call that idiot asshead

The fact is Asshead army is so weak he can not fight FSA and certainly he is no match now against Israel, Assad army never intended to fight Israel only to fight Syrians to keep his throne Assad weakened his army in the last two years, Assad lost the support of Syrians so there is no way he can defend against Israel
It is time that you all realize he is stupid and only a tyrant and he is not fit to lead Syria,it is time to admit the truth, shame on you.
And remember Hasan Nasrallah is another lier, and Iran is not a counytry you can depend on either, and Russia will not spend a penny to defend Assad, infact Russian weapons are inferior to American weapons,they are trembling of fear now.

Egypt AL and all the Arab countries has no choice but to criticise Israel, Israel understans that.
Let Assad fight Israel and we will support him,here his chance.but I know he does not dare to do that, so shut up and accept defeat

May 5th, 2013, 6:32 pm

 

revenire said:

Daraa rat that has accepted defeat at the hands of the Syrian Arab Army.

May 5th, 2013, 6:36 pm

 

zoo said:

Erdogan in another of his hysterical declaration.
If he is do adamant, why doesn’t he attack Syria to free his brothers the Sunnis who are been ‘butchered’? What is he waiting for? Is he a coward or a mad man?

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?pageID=238&nID=46299&NewsCatID=338&op=sent

“Hear me, Bashar al-Assad. You will give an account for this. You will pay a very, very heavy price for [only] showing the courage you cannot show others to the babies in the cradle with soothers in their mouths. God willing, the lamentations of these children will fall upon you as blessed revenge,” he said during a gathering of his ruling Justice and Development Party’s (AKP) consultation gathering in K?z?lcahamam, near Ankara.

Erdo?an’s harsh words came a day after a new massacre was reported by activists in a Sunni town near Banias in Syria’s western Alawite enclave.

May 5th, 2013, 6:38 pm

 

zoo said:

#232 Majed

Yawn….everybody is a “liar” except you, we know, we know..

May 5th, 2013, 6:44 pm

 

zoo said:

A chicken survived the chicken farm Israeli bombing. He is telling the Israelis and the traitors who are cheering this attack: up yours!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/05/article-2319645-19A30E77000005DC-929_634x407.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/05/article-2319645-19A31DA4000005DC-94_634x501.jpg

May 5th, 2013, 6:49 pm

 

annie said:

Josh, comment peux-tu tolérer cette ordure de Rev qui publie les photos de nos morts en se moquant d’eux ? Tu es d’accord avec ça. C’est dégueulasse.

Since Angry Arab(s) was mentioned above, here is his interview (preceded by an assessment by Robin Yassin-Kassab), with Thomas Pierret on the Syrian Revolution

“I hate to link to the Angry Arab for various reasons. This is the man who, on the one hand, was only able to mention Juliano Mer Khamis, the martyred Palestinian founder of Balata refugee camp’s Freedom Theatre, in the context of slandering his mother’s ethnicity (yes, she was an Israeli Jew, but one who chose to marry a Palestinian – and Juliano was a man who could have used his mother’s identity to live between the bars and beaches of Tel Aviv, but chose to live and work in occupied Nablus instead). On the other hand he slanders serious scholars like Mearsheimer and Walt, men who have done such important work on exposing the machinations of the Israel Lobby in the US, by accusing them of anti-semitism. (I wonder why he, an American-based academic, has had so much less trouble with people like Campus Watch than real intellectuals like Edward Said and Norman Finkelstein, who made much less dramatic anti-Israel statements). His coverage of the Syrian Revolution has been appalling. He has relied on informants such as ‘an American friend’ to inform his readership that the revolutionary suburbs of Damascus are ‘like Kandahar’ (usually he is overquick to accuse Western commentators of Islamophobia). He has consistently exaggerated the barbarism and sectarianism of elements of the Syrian resistance while consistently underestimating or ignoring the sectarianism and barbarism of the Syrian regime.

The questions he poses in this interview with Syria expert Thomas Pierret expose his sectarian bias, but Pierret’s responses are so clear and well-informed that the post deserves reposting here.

“1) You and I have disagreed on Syria, do you think that Syria experts have been wrong in the last years especially with the regular and constant predictions of the imminent fall of the regime?

The generalisation is problematic. Such predictions were rather made by journalists, who have the good excuse of not being Syria experts, and Western officials, who often did so for a bad reason, i.e. in order to justify their inaction: if Asad is about to fall, then there is no need to do anything to stop him.

“Experts” did not collectively agree upon the imminent fall of the regime. In early April 2011, I published an op-ed in the French newspaper Le Monde. The last sentence said this: “Nothing guarantees the success of the Syrian revolution, and if it happens at all, it will certainly be long, and painful” . I was not the only one to think that way. I clearly remember a conversation I had at the same time with Steven Heydemann, who was even more pessimistic than I was: he predicted that the regime would use its full military might against the opposition, and that none would act to stop it.

I must admit that later developments made me over-optimistic at times, but overall, I do not think I have seriously under-estimated the solidity of the regime.” full article here :http://pulsemedia.org/2013/05/04/thomas-pierret-on-the-syrian-revolution/

May 5th, 2013, 6:51 pm

 

zoo said:

Western Media Justifies Israel Terror Attacks on Syria Exposing Propaganda Hypocrisy
May 06, 2013 – 12:26 AM GMT By: Danny_Schechter
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40296.html

An Israeli plane bombs a target in Syria. The news is passed along first to Fox News, (huh?) by someone in the Administration.. It happened on a Thursday, but we find out about it late on Friday. The New York Times assigns three reporter to cover the story that goes up on the website in the middle of the morning on Saturday.

Earlier that day, President Obama, speaking in Costa Rica, said there will be no US ground troops on the ground in Syria. Now, the Administration says it is considering “military options.”

Saturday’s New York Times chose this story for the first page: “ISRAEL TIGHTENS BORDER DEFENSE AS SYRIA ERUPTS.”

And so, the story is reframed with Israel the defender, not the aggressor. The bombing makes it into the third paragraph on page 1 but refers only to the bombing of “a target.”

“American officials did not provide details on the target but, instead, referenced an earlier attack attacking a Syrian military supply effort to Hezbollah.” Unmentioned is that the original report understated the extent of the damage caused by the bombing.

Reuters was better informed, “Israel has carried out an air strike targeting a shipment of missiles in Syria bound for Hezbollah in neighboring Lebanon.”

The New York Times does not mention the reaction by Lebanon which issued a statement carried by BBC denouncing the attack as illegal and a violation of their air space.

CNN reported,

” U.S. and Western intelligence agencies are reviewing classified data showing Israel most likely conducted (emphasis mine) a strike in the Thursday-Friday time frame, according to both officials. This is the same time frame that the U.S. collected additional data showing Israel was flying a high number of warplanes over Lebanon.

One official said the United States had limited information so far and could not yet confirm those are the specific warplanes that conducted a strike. Based on initial indications, the U.S. does not believe Israeli warplanes entered Syrian airspace to conduct the strikes.

…The Lebanese army website listed 16 flights by Israeli warplanes penetrating Lebanon’s airspace from Thursday evening through Friday afternoon local time.”

May 5th, 2013, 6:55 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

sewer-pipe is now making up news on its own. Not a single ????? showed up for a demonstration in Damascus. More interesting than the fraudulent crap it makes up is its recent tendency to tell us the sectarian affiliations of its imaginary heroes. It is abvious that sewer-pipe has is placing itself in a defensive position after it was exposed as murder advocate and potential “defender” in a real court. The stupidity of its position, and its hysteria lies in thinking that others have a sick mind like itself.

We don’t give a damn, shabee7 is shabee7, no matter what its color, creed, religion, gender, or social status.

As for the HA shape-shifter agent, who now informs us that chicken survived (i saw the photo on SANA’s site). We must thank it (not the chicken but the agent) for finally informing the world of the reason for the miserable readiness of “??? ??? ????? ” or d-sh athad militia. You see readers, it is well known that generals use conscripts as workers in their chicken farms. It seems that d-sh and athma have extended the license to renting some military building within military installations to these generals. See what was keeping them from defending Syria.

May 5th, 2013, 6:56 pm

 

ann said:

You Asked For IT 😉 AL-HAM-DOOLI-LA 😀

Syria pinpoints targets in Israel to hit in case of further attacks – 2013-05-06

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665218.htm

DAMASCUS, May 5 (Xinhua) — The Syrian army has pinpointed targets inside Israel to strike in case of further Israeli attacks against Syria, the state TV said Sunday.

The marked targets would be hit if Israel attacked Syria again, the TV quoted some officials as saying, adding that the Syrian troops have been told to respond to any attack without waiting orders from the supreme command.

“The Syrian missiles are ready to hit specific targets in case of any new breaches,” the TV said.

Meanwhile, the TV said Syria has given the green light for the Palestinians to “act against Israel” from the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665218.htm

May 5th, 2013, 7:01 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

This is a very embarassing situation to Assad,if he does nothing Israel will do it again, if He open his mouth US will shut him up, Assad is a disgrace, that what happens when a tyrant kill his people, his people will not support him,it is humilliation,disgrace, Russia refused to help him,he can not raise his head again, such a despicable president

May 5th, 2013, 7:09 pm

 

AJ said:

241. ANN said:

“The Syrian army has pinpointed targets inside Israel to strike in case of further Israeli attacks against Syria, the state TV said Sunday.”

In case of further Israeli attacks???? Are you kidding me? How many more times does Israel need to attack before Assad fires a bullet back to Israel?? Just one bullet, show some balls for God’s sake.

May 5th, 2013, 7:16 pm

 

ann said:

`israel lives in a very very very expensive glass house 😉

Israel cancels civil flights in north amid tensions with Syria, Lebanon – 2013-05-06

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665224.htm

JERUSALEM, May 5 (Xinhua) — The Israeli Defense Forces announced Sunday that it would shut down civil air traffic in northern Israel until Thursday.

The decision came amid escalating tensions between Israel and its northern neighbors, Syria and Lebanon, over the alleged Israeli airstrikes against missile caches near the Syrian capital Damascus on early Friday and Sunday.

Israel’s airline Arkia on Sunday canceled nearly ten flights between the northern city of Haifa and the Red Sea port city of Eilat.

Israel did not release any official statement regarding the attacks on Syrian military facilities. But officials speaking on condition of anonymity with foreign media outlets, confirmed early Saturday that Israeli jets struck a shipment of missiles destined for Hezbollah in the early time of Friday.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665224.htm

May 5th, 2013, 7:17 pm

 

Visitor said:

“232. majedkhaldoun said:
………………..

Let Assad fight Israel and we will support him,here his chance…..”

Nuh Majed!!! We will not support Asshead even if he fights Israel.

I stand by what I said earlier: Syrians have an enemy within which is Asshead and Nus-lira, and an enemy without which is Israel.

Our priority is to defeat the enemy within, i.e. Asshead and Nus-lira.

If Asshead or Nus-lira fight Israel, then it is EVIL fighting EVIL, and we, Syrians, have no interest in such fight.

May 5th, 2013, 7:18 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

I was wrong, sewer-pipe is acting within a group-think level of stupidity, it still is not acting alone and is being fed stupid news that appeals to its intelligence.

Here is the type of news-feed sewer-pipe gets to propagate here (add that to the one i posted earlier of the death-ray)

By the way, sewer-pipe will remain the entity’s name-adjective-function until it refrains from celebrating death, issuing calls for mass murder, or gets in jail for doing so.

AJ
1. See above for explanation of the group-think. Same source of news.

2. How many times:
We are informed today that d-sh athad has decided to allow Palestinians to conduct operations against Israel from the Jolan. Like master like surf, as iran uses HA, d-sh athad now wants to use Palestinians to fight, while it settles for rhetoric. This is d-sh athat rethithanth for you.

Oops before i forgets. Find an elegant solution to Fermat’s Last Theorem and you may find out.

May 5th, 2013, 7:19 pm

 

ann said:

Ottomans live in very very very expensive glass houses also 😉

Turkey denies report of defense cooperation against Iran – 2013-05-06

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665205.htm

ANKARA, May 5(Xinhua) — Turkey’s Foreign Ministry has dismissed a report from British Sunday Times that Turkey was trying to make an anti-Iran defense cooperation agreement with Israel and three Arab states.

“These are manipulative reports which have nothing to do with the reality,” Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesman Levent Gumrukcu told reporters on Sunday.

British daily the Sunday Times reported that Israel was preparing a joint effort with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan to establish a warning system to defend against Iranian ballistic missiles.

Under the plan, the five countries would build joint command-and- control centers to share data in anti-missile radar defense systems, according to the Sunday Times.

[…]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-05/06/c_124665205.htm

May 5th, 2013, 7:23 pm

 

Syrialover said:

I see REVENIRE in #204 is still splashing around in the shallows of silly conspiracy theories and posting video nasties.

The REAL CONSPIRACY that is now outraging more sophisticated and seasoned Assad loyalists is that between Russia and Israel!

Read what SYRIANCOMMANDO is saying about this in #191. His tweets provide an authentic insight into how angry and desperate many anti-revolutionists are now feeline.

They feel badly betrayed by Assad who is “still being potty trained” and has been caught with his pants down by Israel. They are also now suspicious of the non-reactions by Iran and Russia.

REVENIRE is an amateur online funster way out of his league. He’d be viewed as a fool by SYRIANCOMMANDO and his pro-regime associates.

May 5th, 2013, 7:27 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrian militants used chemical weapons: UN investigators

United Nations investigators say they have found testimony from victims and medical staff that shows militants have used the nerve agent sarin in Syria, which has been classified as a weapon of mass destruction in UN Resolution 687.

The UN Independent Commission of Inquiry on Syria could not find any evidence that Syrian government forces used chemical weapons against militants, commission member Carla Del Ponte said on Sunday, Reuters reported.

“Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” Del Ponte said in television interview.

“This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities,” said Del Ponte, a former Swiss attorney-general who also served as prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.

The Syrian government and the foreign-sponsored militants accuse each other of using chemical weapons three times — in March once near Aleppo and second time near Damascus, and another time in Homs in December last year.

On December 17, Syrian Ambassador to the UN Bashar Ja’afari said in letters to the UN Security Council and the UN secretary general that the foreign-sponsored militants could use chemical weapons against Syrians and try to shift the blame to the government.

Damascus is “genuinely worried” that Syria’s enemies could provide chemical weapons to armed groups “and then claim they had been used by the Syrian government,” Ja’afari stated.

The Syria crisis began in March 2011, and many people, including large numbers of soldiers and security personnel, have been killed in the violence.

The Syrian government says that the chaos is being orchestrated from outside the country, and there are reports that a very large number of the militants are foreign nationals.

In an interview recently broadcast on Turkish television, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said that if the militants take power in Syria, they could destabilize the entire Middle East region for decades.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/05/302013/syrian-militants-used-sarin-gas-un/

May 5th, 2013, 7:29 pm

 

revenire said:

Daraa not a very friendly place for rats these days. Hear their cries as they realize they died for nothing at the hands of the Syrian Arab Army.

Israel could not save these insects. Perhaps a bit more begging to the Zionists and they can bomb more chicken farms next week?

May 5th, 2013, 7:40 pm

 

ann said:

Early fallout of `israel stupidity! More to come 😉

John Baird clarifies Canada’s position against military campaign in Syria – May. 05 2013

Ottawa — The Globe and Mail

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/canada-open-to-military-campaign-against-syria-john-baird-says/article11720785/

After comments that left some with the impression that Canada was open to discussing a military campaign against the Syrian regime, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird clarified the government’s position.

“Canada is not contemplating a military mission in Syria,”

Mr. Baird’s press secretary, Rick Roth, said a few hours after CTV’s Question Period aired an interview with the minister.

Mr. Baird left no ambiguity, however, about the question of arming Syrian rebels trying to overthrow the government. He said the Canadian government, unlike many of its allies, remains opposed to arming the Syrian opposition over fears that the weapons will fall into the hands of “radical jihadists making [their] way into Syria and infesting part of the opposition. This causes us great concern.

“It’s no longer just a few hundred al-Qaeda affiliated people, it’s a substantial number of radical extremists that have come from all over the world,” Mr. Baird said.

[…]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/canada-open-to-military-campaign-against-syria-john-baird-says/article11720785/

May 5th, 2013, 7:42 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

SL
Please remember that the fearsome (LOL) Syrian Commando was dispatched from this blog with its tail wagging between its legs.

However, sewer-pipe displays the behavior of a tic not a scorpion, which seems to be a common denominator among the remaining loyalists, especially the non-syrian cutting and pasting tics.

May 5th, 2013, 7:44 pm

 

zoo said:

Erdogan invites “selected” Sunnis Arab leaders for breakfast. They will talk about “tourism” and “halal kebab”. Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iraq are not invited, only successful ‘Arab Spring’ countries .

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-pm-to-host-arab-leaders-on-us-trip-eve.aspx?pageID=238&nID=46292&NewsCatID=338

Erdo?an will host prime ministers and other senior political leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Tunisia, Morocco and Yemen at a breakfast on May 10 on the sidelines of the annual meeting of the European Bank of Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) that will take place in Istanbul on May 10-11.

“The meeting of the prime minister with visiting leaders is aiming at reviewing the developments in the Middle East and in the North Africa. It’s going to create a good opportunity for these leaders to exchange views,” diplomatic sources told the Hürriyet Daily News.

May 5th, 2013, 7:45 pm

 

AJ said:

Oh REVENIRE..We get, another dead Syrian civilian you refer to as Rat… Wow, very impressive .. yawn…

When will your mighty Assad army show us the mighty strength of the LION and start attacking IDF soldiers once and for all and prove to the entire world that ASSAD is the king of the jungle. You have the scuds, just point them south. It’s very easy.

“warijna marajlak la shouf!!” lol

May 5th, 2013, 7:52 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Dear Visitor
I am 100% sure Asshead will not dare fight Israel, He is so coward, a disgrace,he is just like those who support him here on SC, Asshead is Asshead
Listen to what Ann said
“Syria pinpoints targets in Israel to hit in case of further attacks”
Israel attacked more today did Asshead do anything? No. look what Revenir said,” Militant used chemical weapons”, revenir should be our ambassador to the underground,they all embarassed , they know neither Iran no Russia will come to their help

May 5th, 2013, 7:59 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:


Rancorous Jealousy over what? fried eggs?

Great job Erdoghan. The more economic ties Egypt has with Turkey and other regional states, the more regionally neutered the Islamist terrorists of Iran are. Probably why the buffoons are so jealous as this preempts the mullas attempt to co-opt and corrupt the Egyptian revolution by establishing ties that would increase the radicalism of the MB in Egypt. MB are opportunists, and they will end up realizing the Turkey is the better partner.

The insertion of “halal-kebab” in the jealous comment is just simple hateful sectarian style. The readers can ignore it for it tells more about the entity posting than about the news it posts. .

In the end, a good fine Turkish breakfast would be a priceless ice-breaker. Good choice of a meal. My own experience shows it to be the most productive work meal of the three. Would be nice to know if other sane people (blue-jealous are not invited) share this experience.

May 5th, 2013, 8:00 pm

 

Syrialover said:

# 242. MAJEDKHALDOUN

Be prepared when Bashar is gone for the revelations about the Assad regime’s under-the-table deals and understandings with Israel over all these years.

Bashar and co thought they knew the deal and script, believing that Israel would prefer to deal with a dictatorship than face the Arab people. That was his father Hafez’s strategy and legacy. The current inept Team Assad wrongly assumed that if they brought Hezbollah in to help “control” the people of Syria Israel would play along.

The Assad regime always saw the Syrian people as its main threat, using propaganda about Israel to manipulate them, while never actually seeing Israel as a serious threat at all.

Now the curtain is pulled back and shock, but no surprise, we see the truth – the regime is only prepared to kill Syrians and destroy Syria, but not to defend Syrians against Israel.

And we are now seeing the limitations of Iran’s capabilities and Russia’s faded interest in helping a loser.

If the Assad loyalists are right (see #191), with the start of Israel’s precision attacks Iran has made vague noises and stepped back to the far end of the room and Putin has chosen to do a backroom deal with Israel.

May 5th, 2013, 8:06 pm

 

revenire said:

Story now on Reuters. Nusra Front used chemical weapons.

U.N. has testimony that Syrian rebels used sarin gas: investigator

(Reuters) – U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria’s civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.

The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte.

“Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

“This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities,” she added, speaking in Italian.

Del Ponte, a former Swiss attorney-general who also served as prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, gave no details as to when or where sarin may have been used.

The Geneva-based inquiry into war crimes and other human rights violations is separate from an investigation of the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria instigated by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, which has since stalled.

President Bashar al-Assad’s government and the rebels accuse each another of carrying out three chemical weapon attacks, one near Aleppo and another near Damascus, both in March, and another in Homs in December.

The civil war began with anti-government protests in March 2011. The conflict has now claimed an estimated 70,000 lives and forced 1.2 million Syrian refugees to flee.

The United States has said it has “varying degrees of confidence” that sarin has been used by Syria’s government on its people.

President Barack Obama last year declared that the use or deployment of chemical weapons by Assad would cross a “red line”.

(Reporting by Stephanie Nebehay; Editing by Tom Pfeiffer)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/05/us-syria-crisis-un-idUSBRE94409Z20130505

May 5th, 2013, 8:16 pm

 

revenire said:

AJ no, not civilians – terrorists.

“When will your mighty Assad army show us the mighty strength of the LION and start attacking IDF soldiers once and for all and prove to the entire world that ASSAD is the king of the jungle. You have the scuds, just point them south. It’s very easy.”

Every dead terrorist is a blow against the Zionists.

Perhaps when you go fishing you need bigger bait?

Yawn? Tired? Take a nap. I will be here when you wake up.

🙂

May 5th, 2013, 8:17 pm

 

revenire said:

Hmm there will have to be some very fancy footwork to deflect Carla Del Ponte’s assertion Israel’s terrorist friends and allies used chemical weapons against Syria.

That isn’t part of the Western script. It was supposed to be “Assad used them”.

Pretty funny.

May 5th, 2013, 8:21 pm

 

Visitor said:

Dear MajedK,

I know full well Asshead is a coward. But we should put our interests first. You know what they say: ?? ????? ?????? ?? ??? ??????

If Asshead, by some miracle, wants to fight Israel, then let him do so on his own. Syrians must never support him.

Again our first priority is the enemy within. Asshead would love to reverse our priorities to his advantage, so he can stay in power after killing 12000+.

If Asshead goes to war with Israel, then you should be certain that he is repeating his father’s treacherous game of 67 just to cling to power. If that happens also be certain that Israel would be colluding with him for the same purpose.

That should never happen again. Asshead is enemy #1. Israel is enemy #2.

It is as simple as that. Asshead needs to know that the Syrian people consider him enemy #1 no matter what he does.

May 5th, 2013, 8:24 pm

 

AJ said:

“259. REVENIRE said:

AJ no, not civilians – terrorists. Yawn? Tired? Take a nap. I will be here when you wake up”

I know you will.. When are you not on this blog? Do you sleep?

May 5th, 2013, 8:26 pm

 

Ghufran said:

I agree that Assad’s image among his loyalists and supporters will be damaged if he does not respond to israel’s attacks but his options are indeed limited and that is why Israel did what it did. A war by proxy has been syria’s choice since 1982 after realizing that Syria cannot count on Arab support or Russia’s backing if it chooses to launch any significant military attack on Israel, I still think Assad will respond but his response will be limited and that response has to be approved by Russia. Keep in mind that the army is stretched thin and is unable to fight an external war while it fights rebels and jihadists. The regime is more likely to intensify its campaign against its internal enemies rather than open another front, I do not expect a vigorous response to israel’s attacks unless Israel chooses to intensify its bombing campaign which is unlikely for now, none of that should come as a surprise to any of you except those who are dishonest or ignorant.

May 5th, 2013, 8:35 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

?????? ???? ???????? .. ??? ??? ..

Shabbih admits the massacre in Banyass

May 5th, 2013, 8:35 pm

 

Syrialover said:

#252. SYRIAN HAMSTER

Yes, I remember that about SYRIANCOMMANDO quitting here on SC.

But as an authentic loyalist and true believer, he struggled with the task of properly defending the Assad regime, handicapped by reality.

Unlike the clowns and distraction faction here who don’t seriously believe a word they are writing and cut-pasting to promote Bashar and co.

Look at how SYRIANCOMMANDO is now in despair and desperation at the regime’s cowardly non-response to Israeli attacks and the lack of loyalty by Assad’s Iranian and Russian sponsors.

Meanwhile ZOO and REVENIRE and co are merrily claiming that Israel’s actions are actually helpful for Bashar! We’ll see how long they they can scrape together nonsense points from a weak and frantically-prepared script from Damascus.

May 5th, 2013, 8:35 pm

 

revenire said:

Not often. It gets in the way of watching all those nice Syria Video videos. There are so many and so many “civilians” dying.

🙂

May 5th, 2013, 8:36 pm

 

revenire said:


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May 5th, 2013, 8:39 pm

 

ghufran said:

Just in case that you still have doubts about where the rebels stand when it comes to Israel:
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???? ???? ?? « ????? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ???????? ??????? »? ?????? ??? «????? ????????? ???? ????? ?????? ??????? ??? ?????? ?? ?? ?????? ?? ???????? ?????». ???? ???? ?? «?? ?? ??? ???????? ?????????? ??? ??????? ?????? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????? ????? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ?????? ??????».

May 5th, 2013, 8:47 pm

 

Observer said:

Mayaddeen claims that he donned a military uniform during the emergency cabinet meeting and he put on his Rya Ban shades I presume.

Manar says it is a chicken factory that was destroyed across the street from the research center.

The syrian media claim Israel used depleted uranium to explain the attack.

Well retards they are. I watched this morning Bin Jeddo go into a Pretzel about his support for freedom everywhere but when it came to Israel he is biased against it and always against it.

Depleted uranium is used as 25 mm shells to destroy tanks

If it is used as a missile it must be then a bunker buster. The bunker buster must have penetrated all the way into the bottom of the depot where the missiles were located hence the earthquake scale explosion.

Continued ammunition exploding for hours afterwards is also reported by Syrian media.

Now how is it that no SCUDS were fired at the air base in Israel where the airplanes came from? How come that the Syrian Air Force did not scramble up to confront and chase the Israelis? How come the 300 SA missile system and the Pantzir missile system and the SA 17 missile systems did not go on line and fire to destroy the attacking air planes?

How come HA did not retaliate for the death of supposedly hundreds of its fighters in this raid? How come not a single demonstration in many an Arab capital did not happen to condemn the attack?

How come the retards on this blog do not eat their words that no aircraft was shot down and no pilots were captured?

Why shouldn’t Erdogan plan to have a political and economic summit with his partners after all the Turkish economy is considered among the top 10 in the world and after the BRICS the new tigers include Indonesia Malaysia and Turkey as the place to invest.

I guess calling the spade a spade and calling a butcher a butcher must have hurt dearly.

I heard that the military uniform is both bullet proof and diaper supplied. The depleted uranium must have penetrated all the way to the Prethidential Palathe

Where is my iPad I need to post on it. Ath-a where is my iPad I cannot thleep without it.

Precision targets indeed. I am holding my breath. But wait Thouria will not be drawn into a trap. We will choothe the time and plathe of retaliation. It will be in ……. Daraya? Abou Rumaneh? Or perhapth Jobar? What do you thay brother?

May 5th, 2013, 8:47 pm

 

Major Syrian salafi faction criticizes Jabhat al-Nosra — War in Context said:

[…] At Syria Comment, Aron Lund writes: The Islamic Ahrar al-Sham Movement, which is the leading faction of the Syrian Islamic Front (SIF) and probably the biggest salafi group in Syria, has issued a statement about Jabhat al-Nosra’s recent declaration of allegiance to al-Qaida’s Ayman al-Zawahiri. The Ahrar al-Sham statement is available in Arabic on Aaron Zelin’s Jihadology, always the go-to place for source material on jihadi groups. […]

May 5th, 2013, 8:48 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Israel attacked because they knew Assad is losing, Israel did not want the rebels to have weapons that could give her trouble in the future, Israel more likely will attack the fourth division to empty all weapons future Syria could have

Asshead lost the respect of every Syrian, even his wife knows he is a loser

May 5th, 2013, 8:49 pm

 

revenire said:

“Sharmine Narwani ?@snarwani
Arab League peace plan: If Israel can finish the job, Qatar has promised it Jerusalem. #LandSwap”

Ha ha funny and true.

May 5th, 2013, 8:50 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria Lover

Keep the uppercase hysteria to Visitor. It looks that you are shouting as no one is listening to you.
I hope you enjoyed the news about the Moslem Brotherhood financing directly the rebels that are running out of weapons and cash since Saudi Arabia has cut the salaries of the rebels. The MBees are humming on Syria.

May 5th, 2013, 8:56 pm

 

Tara said:

*Halal* kabab is a fine Turkish cuisine.

Unless one hates halal or hates Kabab.

May 5th, 2013, 8:57 pm

 

Dolly Buster said:

I wish there was a way to put this Sewage Pipe zoo on ignore, I keep reading his posts by error because it only takes me a split second.

May 5th, 2013, 9:08 pm

 

ghufran said:

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Twitter:@abdelbariatwan

May 5th, 2013, 9:09 pm

 

zoo said:

#279 Majed

Your informed analysis are a bit childish but cute.
Keep on, it’s entertaining.

May 5th, 2013, 9:10 pm

 

revenire said:

HNN Homs News Network shared a link.
LEBANESE NEWS REPORTING DEATH OF FADEL SHAKER !! ..

Lebanese news is reporting that Artist turned Armed Terrorist “Fadel Shaker” has been killed in Deir Azzour Syria, after he decided to form a battalion to fight the Syrian Arab Army, which is how he reportedly met his fate …

WITH A SYRIAN ARMY BOOT STAMP VISA TO THE FACE … – J

http://shamna.net/?????-??-????-???-????-??-???-?????-???.html

May 5th, 2013, 9:11 pm

 

ann said:

Israeli Bombs Over Syria, Part Two – Daniel McAdams – May 4, 2013

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/137160.html

For the second day in a row, the Israeli government is reported to have bombed Syria — this time near Damascus — according to reporting by the Washington Post.

As the Washington Post — itself deeply in the ideological pockets of the left-neocons — concludes, this is Israel’s response to American skepticism over its lurid tales, without evidence, of chemical weapons use by the Syrian government:

“The attack Friday coincided with mounting pressure on the Obama administration to formulate a response to the growing risk of weapons proliferation in the Syrian war, notably the possibility that chemical weapons are being used in the conflict and could fall into the hands of extremists.”

Translation: “We told you a red-line violating story and you did not believe us. Time for Plan B. We’re going in.”

The Washington Post piece also confirms that the Israeli military clearly backs up the Islamist insurgency fighting the Syrian government, made up primarily of al-Qaeda in Syria (AIS):

“There were reports Friday that an overnight rebel mortar attack had caused a huge blaze at the Damascus airport, with a video posted online showing at least two locations on fire. But the Lebanese security official said the blasts, which woke him up, were bigger than those caused by mortar shells and that his Syrian counterparts had confirmed to him that the source was an Israeli strike.”

It’s not rocket science — the Israeli military and the insurgents share the same targets. Does the Washington Post realize the implications of its reporting?

The passive-aggressive US State Department, which is curiously — or not — silent every time its beloved insurgents commit an atrocity of a Boston-on-steroids scale against Christians and others who do not support al-Qaeda in Syria, has nevertheless suddenly found its voice to condemn Syrian government for a “massacre” in Baida, where seven bodies have been found killed in possible retaliation for the killing of seven members of the Syrian Army.

The US is suddenly “appalled by horrific reports” with no evidence, while silent on the truly horrific atrocities committed by its allies, the insurgents — including documented evidence of their forcing children to behead enemies of the insurgency.

Here is what the corporate media will not tell you: the Syrian government has engaged in a highly successful counter-offensive over the past three weeks that has left the foreign based insurgency on the verge of total defeat. This is the impetus for the manic Israeli bombing campaigns against the Syrian government. The silly claims of the Israeli general falling flat on the still-professional US intelligence analytical community, things just became very grave for the regime-changers in the US and Tel Aviv. The only incoming Israel has received from Syria has been insurgent fire in the Golan intended to establish the illusion of an instability so grave it requires an Israeli military response. Israeli warhawks obliged.

The cost of the Bibi-ista tactical alliance with al-Qaeda will sadly likely be high for the average Israeli who wants no part of this fight.

[…]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/137160.html

May 5th, 2013, 9:12 pm

 

zoo said: