Will Sanctions Bring Down the Syrian Regime?
Posted by Joshua on Tuesday, November 15th, 2011
Will Sanctions Bring Down the Syrian Regime?
It is doubtful that sanctions alone will cause regime-change in Syria. Economic deprivation and reduced government spending does not usually lead to regime-change. It is hard to think of a Middle Eastern government that has been brought down by sanctions. Some of the countries that have faced sanctions for decades are Iran, Iraq, Libya, and Sudan. Of course Gaza has faced severe sanctions in an effort to bring down the Hamas government with very little success. What sanctions do very effectively is make people poor and hungry. Governments are good at passing along the pain. In Gaza there is 80% unemployment and widespread malnutrition but no regime change. The UN estimates that sanctions on Iraq killed over 300,000 Iraqis in the 1990s. Starving Syrians is not the intention of US and European policy makers who imposed the sanctions. They continue to insist that Assad will step down due to sanctions. But what Arab leader has ever stepped down as a result of having his country sanctioned? As Albert Einstein said, “Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.”
The good policy makers in Western capitals are not insane, so what are they up to?
- Are they simply imposing sanctions because it is a politically inexpensive way to do something? After all, military intervention, which is the tested method to bring about regime change, is unthinkable today.
- Could some policy makers be hoping to ratchet up the humanitarian disaster in Syria in order to create an “intervention friendly environment” down the road? This seems far fetched but the humanitarian argument was one of the more persuasive rationals for intervening in Iraq. The more extreme the disaster, the more extreme solutions people are willing to entertain.
The problem with sanctions is that they destroy national institutions, decimate the middle class, and degrade society. We saw this in Iraq. The results are not pretty. They make building democracy all the more difficult when the offending regime is finally overturned. The only thing we know about democracy promotion with any certainty is that its chances of success rise exponentially with greater per capita GDP. A long sanctions regime can only hurt democracy promotion. We all know about the magic of the middle class. It is hard to do anything constructive in a country without one.
Religion. The Arab League vote split the Arab countries along Shiite-Sunni lines. Countries with large Shiite populations — Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen — voted with Syria or abstained. Another troubling aspect of the Syrian conflict is that the region’s minorities are remaining faithful to Assad and Syria’s Alawi-led regime even as it grows increasingly isolated. The Christian minority in the region has come out fairly solidly behind Assad. Egyptian Copts prayed for Assad in a large stadium the other day (Egyption Christians pray for Syrians And Syrian President 11-12-2011). Syriac Orthodox Archbishop of Aleppo, Yohana Ibrahim, said President Bashar al-Assad was “the best man” to lead reform in Syria. (Syrian archbishop says ‘everyone loves’ Assad). The Maronite Patriarch of Lebanon upset many when he backed Assad and warned against regime-change in Syria. The growing religious divide in the Middle East is not new, but it is troubling. It suggests that Assad will not relinquish power, as King Abdullah of Jordan and other regional leaders are urging him to do. It also suggests that Assad’s base support among minorities will not crumble easily. Religion has a way of making martyrs.
A friend writes that his parents cannot find cooking gas in Aleppo. The replacement bottles for the stove are unavailable in the market. Mazoot, or fuel-oil, which is used to heat homes, power taxis and farm equipment is also absent, or available at high prices. Aleppo authorities also warn that extended electric cuts are coming due to lack of power. Syria is facing a cold winter. Older people are standing in lines to get small containers of mazoot filled. The Syrian pound has fallen to 54.25 to a dollar.
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Pro-Syrian regime protesters, carry a giant Syrian flag during a demonstration against the Arab League decision to suspend Syria, in Damascus, Syria, November 13, 2011. Similar pro-government demonstrations were held in Aleppo and Latakia.
DJ Arab League To Send 500 Observers To Syria, 2011-11-14
CAIRO (AFP)–The Arab League is preparing to send observers to Syria but needs guarantees from Damascus on their mission and the rights of each side, the organization’s chief, Nabil al-Arabi, said Monday.
An estimated 70people have been killed mostly in clashes between Syrian security forces and defectors in the southern city of Dera’a, in what has been the bloodiest day since the start of the uprisings. Meanwhile, crowds angered by comments byJordanian King Abdullah urging President Bashar al-Assad to step down stormed the Jordanian embassy in Damascus, bringing down the country’s flag.
The suspension and imposition of sanctions by the Arab League on Syria that is due to take effect on Wednesday is being met with uproar from the Syrian regime and its supporters. Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem denounced the move as an “illegal” and “dangerous step” saying that “Syria will not budge and will emerge stronger…and plots against Syria will fail.” Regime supporters attacked the Turkish, Saudi Arabian, and Qatari embassies in protest of the suspension.Foreign governments have had varied responses. Russia condemned the suspension accusing Western nations of inciting the opposition. Angered by the attack on its embassy, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davultoglu asserted, “We will take the most resolute stance against these attacks and we will stand by the Syrian people’s rightful struggle.”The European Union reached an agreement to extend sanctions. King Abdullah of Jordan called for Bashar al-Assad to resign stating, “If Bashar has the interest of his country, he would step down, but he would also create an ability to reach out and start a new phase of Syrian political life. Syria has requested an emergency meeting with the Arab League prior to the suspension and said it will meet with representatives from the opposition on Tuesday.
EU Places New Sanctions on Syria – Wall Street Journal
European Union foreign ministers announced new sanctions on Syria even as they insisted that the situation in the country didn’t merit the same military response they mounted in Libya earlier this year.
Turkey May Review Energy Supplies to Syria, Minister Says, 2011-11-15, By Emre Peker
Nov. 15 (Bloomberg) — Turkish Energy Minister Taner Yildiz said the government is currently providing power supplies to Syria and may reconsider “all decisions” on the matter if its southern neighbor’s policies don’t change, according to state-run Anatolia news agency…..
Iranian Officials Meet With Syrian Opposition – 2011-11-14, by Richard Spencer in the Telegraph
Iranian officials have held talks with Syrian opposition leaders, in a dramatic sign of the growing isolation of the regime of President Bashar al-Assad. Several separate opposition sources have told The Daily Telegraph that Iran opened a channel to a “moderate” opposition group about a month ago. Officials met Haytham Manna and other members of a group known as the National Coordinating Body for Democratic Change, or the National Coordi
nating Committee. The group is strongly opposed to foreign intervention in Syria, and is likely to be seen as more acceptable to Iran than the largest group, the Syrian National Council, which has argued for “international protection” for civilians…..
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Syria’s fragmented opposition
As anti-government forces try to develop a united voice, Al Jazeera looks at the disparate groups within.
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Syria’s economy is key to Assad’s future
By Liz Sly, Monday, November 14
BEIRUT — The dramatic decision by Arab states to turn against President Bashar al-Assad could further damage Syria’s economy at a time when it is already unraveling, posing perhaps a graver challenge to Assad’s survival than the country’s nearly-eight-month-old popular uprising, analysts say.
The broader loss of regional support represents an important psychological blow to a regime that has long prided itself as a champion of Arab nationalist causes. In one indicator of how far Assad’s fortunes have fallen, Jordan’s King Abdullah II suggested Monday that the Syrian president step down, though he hedged that call, telling the BBC that Assad needed to ensure an orderly transition.
It was, nonetheless, the most explicit rejection yet by an Arab leader of Assad’s rule ahead of an Arab League meeting Wednesday to discuss further measures against Syria, including economic sanctions.
They could have a more profound and immediate effect than the withdrawal of political support, given that Western powers are ruling out military intervention and anti-government demonstrations have seen neither the protest movement nor the Syrian security forces gain a decisive advantage. On Monday, the European Union announced that it would expand its sanctions, to include 18 more individuals associated with the Assad regime and denial of access to the European Investment Bank.
“The economy is a trigger of a lot of other issues on a broader level,” said Ayham Kamel, Middle East analyst with the Eurasia Group. The business community has supported Assad so far, he said, “but over a longer period of time, they’re going to reevaluate.”
The extent of the damage is difficult to measure, and Syrian government officials say they don’t have indicators. But they do not play down the gravity of the situation.
Syrian Economy Minister Mohammad Nidal al-Shaar said at a conference last month that the economy is in a “state of emergency,” according to comments quoted by the Damascus-based Syria Report. In a recent interview in Damascus, Adib Mayalah, governor of the Central Bank of Syria, described the situation as “very serious” and ticked off the problems the economy is facing.
“Unemployment is rising, imports are falling, and government income is reduced,” he said. “In areas where there are protests, there is no economic activity — so people aren’t paying tax. Because they aren’t working, they are not repaying their loans — so the banks are in difficulty. And all this is weakening the economy.”
Merchants interviewed recently on the streets of Damascus report a 40 to 50 percent fall in business as consumers hoard cash and cease spending on all but the most essential items. Tourism has skidded to a halt, representing a loss of $2 billion a month to an economy worth $59 billion last year, Mayalah said.
“The whole system has been shrinking — and very fast,” said Rateb Shallah, a prominent Damascus businessman. “The sanctions are squeezing us, and it is definitely affecting us quite a bit.
To what extent the downturn is due to the sanctions isn’t clear, however.
Until now, only the United States, the European Union, Canada and Japan have imposed sanctions on Syria, with relatively limited measures mostly targeting individuals and financial services. The most serious measure, a European embargo on oil purchases imposed in August, goes into effect only on Tuesday because Italy sought to ensure that its existing contracts were honored.
But the experience of the oil embargo illustrates the broader crisis of confidence confronting Syria. European nations, which account for a vast majority of Syrian oil exports, immediately halted their purchases, even though they were not required to do so for three more months. And oil pumped since then has gone unsold, despite Syria’s boasts that it would easily find other customers. Syria has curtailed its oil production by more than 25 percent, Mayalah said.
In a similar fashion, the restrictions on financial services and individuals have had a detrimental effect even on aspects of the economy that aren’t directly connected, by dissuading investors and companies from doing business with Syria. The Central Bank of Syria has not been sanctioned, but many businesses are refusing to engage with it because they fear falling foul of the U.S. prohibition on trade in services with Syria and jeopardizing their interests elsewhere, Mayalah said.
Foreign investment has slowed to a trickle for the same reasons, he said, even though there are no restrictions.
But investors may be equally deterred by Syria’s shaky political future and the escalating violence. The Local Coordination Committees, an opposition group, reported the deaths of 50 people in violence Monday, 28 of them in the southern province of Daraa, where there were unconfirmed reports of major clashes between the Syrian army and defected soldiers. The official Syrian Arab News Agency said two members of the security forces were killed in Daraa.
A trade embargo would be difficult to enforce. Syria can still count on two key neighbors with which it shares long and porous borders: Lebanon, one of only two countries that voted against the Arab League’s resolutions censuring Syria, and Iraq, which abstained.
Yet even trade with Iraq, which has been seeking to boost business ties with Syria as the region tilts against it, has fallen because of the indirect effect of sanctions, said Syria’s deputy economy minister, Khaled Mahmoud Saloutah. The two trading companies that handle most cross-border trade are based in Europe and have been forced to curtail their transactions, reducing the value of Syria’s exports to Iraq by 10 percent, he said.
“The economy is not going to collapse overnight,” Kamel said. “But it is definitely taking Syria down a risky path.”
The newly sanctioned Syrians — other than military and intelligence people — include 3 young members of the Syrian Electronic Army, Rami makhlouf’s lawyer – actually one of his good friends called me today to explain that he had not taken a case for Makhlouf in four years. Another is the head of Berri clan shabbiha in Aleppo. #13 on the list is the most interesting. He is simply named Maj General Nazih. No last name is given. So any one with the name Nazih will have to think twice about a trip to Athens.
The tiny emirate’s intentions remain murky to its neighbors and even allies — some see a Napoleon complex, others an Islamist agenda….
“Do they fill a void? Yes,” said Bassma Koudmani, a Syrian opposition leader who credited the Qataris with a key role in the Arab League’s startling decision Saturday to suspend Syria and isolate a government at the pivot of the region’s relations. “They are filling a space and a role that is not being taken up by other countries.” … American diplomatic cables in 2009, released by WikiLeaks, claim that Qatar has occasionally offered Al Jazeera’s coverage as a bargaining tool. A senior journalist there said while no order was given, the network’s reporting on Syria changed sharply in April.
“We could feel the change in atmosphere,” the journalist said.
Syria: It’s the Economy Stupid
by Armand Hurault, Arab Insurrection Analyst, Transnational Crisis Project
The Syrian economic policies over the past 25 years have underpinned the current uprising. I argue that the economy may well be the Achilles’ heel of Assad’s grip on power…..
Dr Emad Mustafa NBN 11 11 11 02
Syria’s neighbors helping shape its fate LA Times
Syria’s embattled government must face the changing dynamics of the region as old alliances fade and new brokers emerge, most notably Qatar….
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Ash-Sharq al-Awsat
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How Syrian Authorities can Hurt Ex-pats – (in French)
Maidhc Ó Cathail The ‘Humanitarian’ Road to Damascus: Pro-Israel Groups Outline U.S. Options to Assist Syrian Opposition -mForeign Policy Journal
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Arab leaders shouldn’t kill their people?
Posted By Marc Lynch
I am an Alawi from Antioch. I have many relatives in the alawite communities of Turkey including those in Mersin, Tarsus, Iskenderun (Alexandretta), Arsuz and Samandag, many of whom I do not know personally. I also visited Syria and am told I have relatives in Latakia, Homs, Damascus, and Aleppo. I am responding to Ms. Kahf and Mr. Landis’ claims regarding Alawite tribes. The truth is as far as I know, there is no such a thing as an Alawite tribe. This is just simply a reflection of modernization, educational attainment, and the prevalence of an urban lifestyle which weakened the traditional intra-communal links. I am about 50 yrs of age and never heard of “tribes”. Even close family relationships are non-existent. I have many relatives that I do not know and could not recognize even if I saw them on the street. I live in the USA and some of my relatives are scattered in Europe including Norway, France, Holland, Germany, Sweden, and the Middle East including Saudi Arabia, and Egypt. So much for the “tribes”!
Human Rights Watch accuses Syrian government of “crimes against humanity”- The human-rights group, Human Rights Watch, released a 63-page report accusing the Syriangovernment of “crimesagainst humanity.” The report reflects the accounts of 110 victims andwitnesses who claim Syrian forces killed at least 587 civilians since the startof the uprisings in March. It also references the tortureof political prisoners and unarmed civilians, including the elderly and children.
Turkey deputy: weapons being smuggled to Syria The National
Thomas Seibert Nov 11, 2011
ISTANBUL // Many firearms from Turkey have entered Syria, and the Turkish government has stopped alleged arms-smuggling activities at a border post between the two countries, a Turkish opposition deputy said yesterday.
“You see many Turkish-made firearms in Syria,” Mehmet Ali Ediboglu, a deputy from the province of Hatay, which borders Syria, said in a telephone interview. “I don’t know how they got into the country.”
A friend Writes: Friday, November 11, 2011
This is the most inept group of people to govern. The article talks about inability of anyone to pinpoint what the population figure is. One group thinks Syria’s population increases by 670,000 a year. Another thinks its 500,000 and a third believes its 440,000. As for unemployment, the government continues to think its 8% (joke?) while some think its 30%. How can you run a country with such variations? Bashar should have stopped everything in 2000 and did one thing. call the international organizations with expertise in this field and get help in finding out population levels and growth rates in every city and district and make sure each household has an income/asset bracket that qualifies it as poor/middle/wealthy. Only then, subsidies can go to who deserves it and policies can be implemented given actual population trends and where. Instead………………………enough to make want to cry http://www.syriasteps.com/?d=127&id=77652&in_main_page=1
Syria stopped paying oil companies
2011-11-11 15:28:06.43 GMT
LONDON, Nov. 11 (UPI) — Though oil production in Syria is ongoing, sources close to the government said Damascus stopped paying supermajors Royal Dutch Shell and Total. Sources familiar with the Syrian energy sector told the Financial Times that major energy companies working in Syria were getting paid by the government until a few weeks ago. Payments slowed and eventually stopped as European governments put more pressure on Damascus for its crackdown on opposition protesters. “Payments have been delayed and some are outstanding,” said one industry insider who spoke to the Financial Times on condition of anonymity. “My sense is the government has no cash.”
Syria Regime’s Likely Collapse Requires U.S. Planning: Analyst
2011-11-10, By Peter S. Green
Nov. 10 (Bloomberg) — U.S. needs to plan for all contingencies, bring about demise of Assad regime, as long-lasting conflict will become bloodier, more sectarian, spread to neighboring countries, Andrew Tabler, fellow at Washington Institute for Near East Policy, says in testimony to Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Six-point plan needed:
* Form Syria contact group for coordinated pressure on Assad
* Peel away Assad supporters, especially Christians, Sunnis
* Aid opposition to develop peaceful strategy of strikes, boycotts
* Push for international human rights monitors to enter Syria
* Prepare for militarization of conflict – no-fly zone, buffer zones to keep protesters safe from Assad military
* Push for UN Security Council action on sanctions,
potential use of force
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ann said:
Saudi Arabia Plays Key Role in US Anti-Iranian Alliance
November 15, 2011
Saudi Arabia’s key role in seeking to destabilise the Ba’athist regime of Bashir Assad has become the centrepiece of an attempt by Washington to cobble together an anti-Iranian alliance, aimed more generally at suppressing the Middle Eastern masses.
Saudi Arabia, the world’s leading oil producer and exporter, has the largest known oil reserves in the world. This has brought untold wealth to the Saudi ruling family and its more than 20,000 princes. The House of Saud keeps power by a system of brutal repression that outlaws all public protests, strikes and expressions of dissent, combined with its championing of an extreme version of Sunni Islam, Wahhabism.
The 10 to 15 percent of the population who are Shi’ite are persecuted. This creates deep social tensions, especially as the Shi’ite live mainly in the Eastern Province, where 90 percent of Saudi’s 260 billion barrels of proven oil reserves are found.
The majority of the population have derived little benefit from oil wealth. Unemployment among Saudi men is officially 11.6 percent, but is several times that figure. Large numbers of women are excluded from the labour market. Young people under 30, who make up two thirds of the 26-million-strong population, are badly affected; 40 percent of 20- to 24-year-olds are unemployed. Even well-educated graduates cannot find work, marry or set up a home.
Soaring oil prices have created 2.2 million new jobs in the private sector, but only 9 percent went to Saudi citizens. Nearly 6 million workers, or 80 percent of the workforce, are non-nationals, mainly migrant labourers from South or Southeast Asia, who work for a pittance, without rights or protection.
In January, following the mass social movements in Tunisia and Egypt, protests broke out demanding the release of the “forgotten political prisoners,” who have been imprisoned for as long as 16 years without charges or trials. This prompted King Abdullah to return home early, after months of hospitalisation in the US.
A focus for protests was Qateef, a predominantly Shi’a area in the oil-producing eastern part of the country. Protests—all but ignored by the international media—have been ongoing for months, with demonstrators denouncing the Saudi military’s intervention in neighbouring Bahrain, demanding the release of people detained during the protests, and denouncing the regime’s suppression of women.
They were met with suppression and a massive US$130 billion package of reforms, an amount equal to 36 percent of Saudi GDP. The package included a monthly minimum wage of 3,000 riyals (US$800), two months’ extra pay for government workers, extra grants for university students, unemployment benefit of about US$260 a month, 500,000 affordable homes, US$4.3 billion investment in medical facilities, 60,000 jobs in the security forces, and an anti-corruption commission.
Such largesse is only sustainable, however if the price of oil—presently at more than US$85 a barrel—remains high.
Increased social spending comes on top of a hefty defence bill taking nearly a third of the Saudi budget. This is set to rise in line with the Kingdom’s increasingly bellicose attitude towards Iran, its involvement in Yemen and Pakistan, and covert funding of Sunni forces in Iraq and Syria. In addition, Saudi Arabia is committed to paying most of the US$25 billion the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) has pledged to buy off social discontent in Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, and Oman. Riyadh also provides large sums to the Palestinians and Afghanistan.
The death last month of the 86-year-old Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz has raised concerns about the Kingdom’s political future. The 88-year-old King Abdullah is in extremely poor health. Abdullah delayed Prince Sultan’s funeral until he got the agreement of the Allegiance Council, made up of representatives of each of the families of Ibn Saud, the Kingdom’s founder, to appoint Prince Nayif, the interior minister, as the new crown prince. But Nayif, 78, suffers poor health and there is no agreement among the next generation over succession.
Saudi Arabia has functioned as the linchpin of social reaction during the mass protests that have shaken the Middle East this year. Its overarching aim is crush all protests before they spread to Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States, all of which face dissent—including from their own restive Shi’ite populations.
Furious that Washington withdrew its support for Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak and Tunisia’s former president, Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, whom it is sheltering, Saudi Arabia helped crush protests against neighbouring Bahrain’s al-Khalifa dynasty.
Riyadh has also supported Jordan’s King Abdullah, who faces ongoing protests led by the Muslim Brotherhood, with cash and an offer of GCC membership including military support.
In neighbouring Yemen, Riyadh has propped up the 30-year dictatorship of President Ali Abdullah Saleh, helping to suppress the local affiliate of Al Qaeda and Shi’ite rebels near the border with Saudi Arabia. The Saudi elite are concerned that prolonged protests in Yemen will spill over the border. Despite trying to get Saleh to resign via a GCC-brokered agreement, the Saudis allowed him to return to Yemen, after months during which he was held in Riyadh for treatment of his wounds following an assassination attempt. This is because they cannot rely upon any successor.
Saudi also collaborated in the US “targeted killing” of Anwar al-Awlaki, a US-born Muslim cleric, in Yemen, and later his son.
The Saudi dynasty vies for regional influence with Iran. It uses its guardianship of two of Islam’s three holy sites, Mecca and Medina, to bolster its claim to defend the Muslim faith, asserting a religious conflict against “heretical” Shi’ites, with the support of the other Gulf monarchies.
For decades, Riyadh has used its enormous oil wealth to cultivate Sunni Islamic clerics and Salafist groups and finance campaigns of religious education and television programmes broadcast throughout the Middle East and Central Asia. It has whipped up hostility to the Shi’a minorities to divide any domestic dissent, prevent the growth of pro-Iranian Shi’ite political parties and counter Iranian influence. It routinely blames Iranian “interference” in Bahrain and the Yemen for the unrest there, without producing any evidence.
In Lebanon, the Saudis back the pro-Western faction of Saad Hariri—and Rafik Hariri, his father and former prime minister assassinated in 2005—as a bulwark against Syrian and Iranian influence. Hezbollah, the Shi’ite party backed by Syria and Iran, has broad popular appeal outside Lebanon for its opposition to Israel.
In 2002, then-King Fahd put forward his plan to normalise relations with Israel in return for a Palestinian state alongside Israel’s 1967 borders to defuse the widespread anger throughout the region. President George W. Bush’s Road Map, announced in 2002, was an attempt to counter the political impact of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which then-Crown Prince Abdullah had warned would strengthen Iran.
Saudi Arabia is implacably hostile to the Iraqi government, which is close to Iran. Riyadh has refused to send an ambassador to Baghdad and insists on the repayment of its US$30 billion loan given to Saddam Hussein to prosecute the eight-year war against Iran in the 1980s.
According to US State Department documents published by WikiLeaks, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has accused Saudi Arabia of “fomenting sectarian conflict” and “funding a Sunni army.” Its intervention in Iraq is likely to escalate after US troops withdraw at the end of this year.
Riyadh played a key role in the Arab League’s March 13 announcement of support for a “no-fly” zone over Libya, which paved the way for the NATO war to remove Colonel Muammar Ghaddafi and the installation of the puppet National Transitional Council.
In recent years, Riyadh mended relations with Syria, as Damascus sought closer relations with Washington. Together, the two countries sought to prevent tensions in Lebanon from degenerating into armed conflict. But while Riyadh originally backed President Bashar al-Assad against the mainly Muslim Brotherhood and Salafist-led protest movement to maintain stability in the region, it has switched sides—seeing the unrest as an opportunity to reduce Iran’s influence in the Middle East.
Last August, it withdrew its ambassador from Damascus. Some of the oppositionists, many armed, have support from Saudi Arabia and forces around former Prime Minister Saad Hariri in Lebanon. They are represented in the Syrian National Council, established with Turkey’s support, in a bid to provide an embryonic Syrian government in exile and legitimise Turkish intervention on behalf of the Western powers.
In Pakistan, Riyadh has been one of Islamabad’s major donors, second only to the US, and endorses its efforts towards reconciliation with the Taliban in Afghanistan at the expense of rival factions closer to Tehran. According to the Center for Global Development, Riyadh provided Pakistan with nearly US$140 million a year between 2004 and 2009. Last year, it gave Islamabad US$100 million in flood relief, and this year US$114 million.
November 15th, 2011, 3:17 pm
son of Damascus said:
A link to the debate two Lebanese MP’s (I believe one is former) had on live TV. Notice how a typical menhabak reacts to Bashar being called a liar, wonder if he had a gun would he have shot him for calling Bashar a liar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OzIwj77-_9k
The MP’s are Mustafa Alloush and Fayez Shakour.
November 15th, 2011, 3:35 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Malnutrition in Gaza? Many Egyptian Sudanese Syrian and Jordanian children would be more than grateful to have the Gazan diet.
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November 15th, 2011, 4:09 pm
amal said:
Malnutrition in Gaza? Many Egyptian Sudanese Syrian and Jordanian children would be more than grateful to have the Gazan diet.
A diet of bullets, phosphorus bombs and death
A good Israeli is a dead Israeli
November 15th, 2011, 4:15 pm
son of Damascus said:
@ Amir in Tel Aviv
I’m not sure OXFAM would agree with you.
http://www.oxfam.org.uk/oxfam_in_action/emergencies/gaza_crisis.html
As much as the Israeli government want to deny that there is no crisis in Gaza, it can’t deny the truth. I would not wish on my worst enemy to live in the prison called Gaza, and I will continue to be shocked at the fact that people that suffered so horribly from the hands of others, can do the same to another group of people.
I believe in peaceful co-excitance, but only when it is fair and balanced to both sides. I’m sorry for the horrible crimes Hitler and the Nazi’s inflicted on the Jewish people, but your security is not more important than the lives of others.
Israel is not the bastion of democracy in the middle east, just as betho and gang are not the bastions of the resistance. Your democracy is not inclusive but exclusive, which by definition does not make it democratic.
November 15th, 2011, 4:39 pm
N.Z. said:
#3
Dignity is the Arab new diet.
Will you like anyone to rob you from yours?
I can measure your humanity from your comments, believe me you never failed to proof me wrong.
November 15th, 2011, 4:55 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Son of Damascus One-sided “Peaceful Coexistence” Lesson NewZ
I would not wish on my worst enemy to live in the prison called Gaza…
Son of Damascus,
Would you wish your worst enemy to live in Syria? Israel?
Palestinians living in Israel are the freest and one of the most economically successful in the ME.
As much as the Israeli government want to deny that there is no crisis in Gaza…
The crisis in Gaza is mainly due to the local government. If you want to address the issue of “denial”, do you deny that Israel no longer occupies Gaza and do you deny that Gaza has fired thousands of missiles into Israeli population centers?
Meanwhile, here is a summary of the amount of aide that travels into Gaza from Israel despite the missile firing and the state of war that exist between Gaza and Israel:
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/humanitarianaid/overview/
November 15th, 2011, 5:06 pm
son of Damascus said:
@ Haytham Khoury
If the menhebaks or anyone else for that matter want to call Dr. Ziadeh Zabaleh, let them. What I believe the good Doctor is trying to accomplish is a free democratic Syria, where criticism of public figures should not be censored, as much as it might be disrespectful. Dr. Ziadeh chose to be a public figure for the SNC and the opposition, he should not be surprised or even hurt by these words.
Democracy does not equate to civility, but humanity does.
Just my two cents (or qiresheen 🙂 )
PS keep up the good work, there are a lot of Syrians not only backing your efforts but proud of them. Thank you
November 15th, 2011, 5:07 pm
amal said:
Hajji Mohamed Haytham Khouri is back 😀
November 15th, 2011, 5:19 pm
son of damascus said:
@ Akbar Palace
You might think I’m one sided, but I’m not. I know what Hizballah, Hamas, islamic Jihad are. i’m fully aware of the crimes they commit, but it seems many Israelis are in denial of what their government is up to.
Below is another link by another reputable NGO, Amnesty International
http://blog.amnestyusa.org/middle-east/gaza-by-the-numbers/
and if you notice what they write at the end of the report and I quote:
“In speaking about the current wave of violence, Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, Gabriela Shalev pledged that Israel will “destroy completely” the “terrorist gang.”
But the facts show that much more than a “terrorist gang” is being destroyed in Gaza.”
Here is an Israeli NGO that recognizes the crisis in Gaza, and recognizes what Israelis must do for true comprehensive peace:
http://gush-shalom.org/
November 15th, 2011, 5:20 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Son of Damascus,
Yes. Gazans suffer. Believe me or don’t, I’m sorry it is so. I wish we could co-exist.
“…I believe in peaceful co-excitance, but only when it is fair and balanced to both sides”.
I too believe in a peaceful co-existence. But the rulers of Gaza don’t.
I’m not in a competition with you on the subject of ‘Democracy’. Democracy has many forms and shapes. The best way to determine whether there’s a democracy or not, is to ask the people. I believe most Israelis, including the Israeli Arabs will tell you that they live in a democratic system. And yes, it’s an exclusive benefit for all Israelis. Arabs and Jews.
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November 15th, 2011, 5:21 pm
amal said:
Ever wonder if Haytham is the patient instead of the doctor he claims to be at the mental institution where he claims to work?
I sense a little Napoleon syndrom 😀
November 15th, 2011, 5:29 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Mnhebakites (endangered species) are freaking today.
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November 15th, 2011, 5:29 pm
Son of damascus said:
@ Amir in Tel Aviv
I guess I forgot that Ehud Barak, Ariel Sharon, and Benjamin Netanyahu and the likes of them were truly for peace. As I recall the last israeli PM that tried for real peace was murdered by an Israeli.
Israeli arabs are treated like second class citizens maybe you should meet more Israeli Arabs before you choose to speak on their behalf. If you asked the white people in Apartheid South Africa if they were “democratic” guess what their answer would have been.
I know the rulers of Gaza are thugs, just like the ruler in Damascus is a thug. All the rockets the Palestinians shot at innocent people is deplorable, but so is the actions your government takes against the innocent Palestinians, human rights goes both ways.
November 15th, 2011, 5:31 pm
amal said:
Mnhebakites (endangered species) are freaking today.
So, how is life in your Tel Aviv Bomb Shelter
November 15th, 2011, 5:32 pm
N.Z. said:
Just as there are no “terrorists gangs” in Syria, there are no terrorists gangs in occupied Palestine.
“Dignity” is what we all in the Arab world are dying for, including Hizbullah.
Let us remain focused.
November 15th, 2011, 5:35 pm
amal said:
Israelis call Palestinians are called 3 legged animals.
November 15th, 2011, 5:35 pm
jad said:
It’s nice to see Ghalyoun&SNC menhebakjieh trying there best to defend the indefensible out of their own ‘mehebak’ stand:
Radwan Zibaleh Calls For War On Syria
US State Department tool Radwan Zibaleh today called for a war on Syria. Speaking on Aljazeera’s prime-time, evening newscast “daily harvest”,
Washington’s favorite Syrian “human rights activist” did not actually utter the word “war”, but that word is rarely used even by the powers that wage the war. Instead he opted for the agreed upon euphemism of “international protection.” He went on to explain “international protection” would be justified under Chapter 7 of the UN Charter. Like the minute fraction of Arabs (they are always a minute fraction) that previously supported Western wars on Iraq and Libya, Zibaleh and a handful of like-minded friends are quick to cite Chapter 7 as a “legal basis” for their self-serving collaboration and a fig leaf for their treason. This is not the first time Ziadeh has expressed his support for a potential war on Syria, but he’s never been as clear as he was today.
Short of the American military invasion and occupation of Syria which Zibaleh is hoping for, at which time he can fly into Damascus on a US Air Force C-17 like Ahmad Chalabi arrived in Iraq, he is unlikely to ever return to the country where he would certainly be arrested and put on trial for treason regardless if the current regime remains in power or not. Zibaleh, who has appeared before anti-Syrian, Zionist groups, has also expressed his willingness, in the event he becomes part of a Western-installed regime in Damascus, to recognize the Zionist entity and continues his silence on Israel’s occupation of the Syrian Golan Heights.
November 15th, 2011, 5:44 pm
jad said:
A very interesting new Syria blog enjoy:
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http://syriandiscussions.blogspot.com/
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November 15th, 2011, 5:54 pm
jad said:
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November 15th, 2011, 5:57 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Son of Damascus,
You apparently read too much of the Arab press.
You know what do scare the Israeli Arab the most?
The prospect that they will have to live in a Palestinian state.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3997051,00.html
Ask the Israeli Arabs why do they like to live in Israel.
“…A recent opinion poll conducted by Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government found that 77 percent of Israeli Arabs would rather live in Israel than in any other country in the world”.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/var/ezp_site/storage/fckeditor/file/pdfs/news-events/IMPACT_November_2008.pdf
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November 15th, 2011, 6:00 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
I expect strong statement from AL tomorrow, protecting Syrian must be included,sanction will not work,
November 15th, 2011, 6:15 pm
ann said:
Bashar al-Assad’s protests come true: Syria really is being ganged up on
Across the Middle East, the Syrian conversation has changed key.
15 Nov 2011
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8892451/Bashar-al-Assads-protests-come-true-Syria-really-is-being-ganged-up-on.html
Before last weekend, the regime’s bellicose warnings that it was facing a sectarian war within and a hostile onslaught from abroad were met with little more than cynicism.
President Bashar al-Assad was seen as just another dictator making empty threats with a view to keeping his restive population in check and his critics at bay.
Now, ironically, he has managed to prove himself right. But that does not mean he has won anyone over to his side.
Even as parts of Syria descend into outright armed conflict between different squads of troops, his neighbours really are ganging up against him.
No one would have expected the lead to be taken by Turkey, which until this year was promising that “zero problems with the neighbours” was the basis of its foreign policy. But then no one would have expected the normally supine Arab League to back military action against one of its own members, Libya, in March this year.
Now anything is possible. Diplomatic and financial options are on the table but increasingly, if quietly, options that are not described as military but nevertheless would undoubtedly involve the use of troops and planes are also being bandied about.
Most notable is the possibility of Turkish troops setting up a “buffer zone”, or safe haven, inside the Syrian borders. The model for that is the safe haven set up further along the Turkish border for Kurdish refugees from Saddam in 1991; and we all know how that ended.
The looming question is whether in this exceptional scenario any of the region’s leaders have the experience to find a way out of the crisis Mr Assad and the Arab Spring have between them created.
Turkey has been telling him he has blown his last chance for so long now that it will have to start making good on its threats. The Arab League, with its statement on Saturday, has armed that particular citadel too.
The chances are that several more weeks remain of challenge and Syrian defensiveness. Both Turkey and the Arab states are most likely hoping that their ferocity melts Russian and Chinese opposition to United Nations sanctions, and thus negate the need for them to make good on their threats.
But there is no sign of that at the moment, and the way is being prepared for an unprecedented confrontation. Once begun, there is no happy precedent for such a peaceful conclusion.
November 15th, 2011, 6:18 pm
jad said:
Ghalyoun Menhebakjieh, bad news for you, it seems that his name means ‘Toilet’ in Russian, according to the person who wrote the note
:)’beit almay’ LOLOLOL
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November 15th, 2011, 6:28 pm
Son of damascus said:
@ Amir in Tel Aviv
The very little I know about Israeli Arabs (which I admit I am no expert at), is what I learned from first hand accounts from actual Israeli Arabs, one of whom after immigrating from Israel to the US, became a lawyer for the ACLU (an actual expert on human rights).
What he and his family have told me is that there is a systematic racism towards arabs by Israeli jews, the double standards and limited job opportunities.
If as you claim Israeli arabs love Israel so much, why do the inhabitants of the Golan Heights continue to call themselves Syrians, and rejected Israeli citizenship?
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3365151,00.html
November 15th, 2011, 6:32 pm
jad said:
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http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=140038
November 15th, 2011, 6:47 pm
Ghufran said:
Homs: may witness another change in two top local leaders or more,this will include the governor and Ba’ath leadership.
AL: further escalation against the regime tomorrow
Russia: closer to asking Bashar to leave his post and allow a political body to lead the transitional period,the army to play a key role.
Bashar: lost most of his friends and the ability to lead Syria out of this mess.
November 15th, 2011, 6:49 pm
jad said:
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http://youtu.be/27xrROauZZc
November 15th, 2011, 6:59 pm
jad said:
Ghufran,
You are correct:
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http://www.aljaml.com/node/77684
November 15th, 2011, 7:00 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Son of Damascus #25,
“…why do the inhabitants of the Golan Heights continue to call themselves Syrians, and rejected Israeli citizenship?”
Because they fear Syrian revenge in a case that the Golan is swapped for peace. Ask the Israeli Druze. They are very content of being Israelis.
“…the double standards and limited job opportunities”.
Yes, Israel is no perfect. We have lots of problems and issues: job opportunities for Arabs, discrimination, prejudices, lack of participation of Arab women in the general work force, and so on.
But the issue you raised was “democracy”, not social problems.
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November 15th, 2011, 7:07 pm
zoo said:
The new EU blacklist: all member of the regular army and electronic army
The EU names 18 Syrians accused of supporting the regime’s crackdown
Dubai: European Union Tuesday announced the names of the 18 Syrian individuals accused of supporting or having links to the eight-month crackdown on the uprising.
The list, signed by Catherine Ashton, the president of the EU Council, includes names of military officers directly linked to the crackdown and others who are accused of offering logistic support. The penal action has become effective on November 14.
They are:
Major General Jumah Al Ahmad, Commander Special Forces. Responsible for the use of violence against protesters across Syria.
Colonel Lu’ai Al Ali, Head of Syrian Military Intelligence, Dara’a Branch. Responsible for the violence against protesters in Dara’a.
Lt. General Ali Abdullah Ayyub, Deputy Chief of General Staff (Personnel and Manpower). Responsible for the use of violence against protesters across Syria.
Lt. General Jasem Al Furayj, Chief of General staff. Responsible for the use of violence against protesters across Syria.
General Aous (Aws) Aslan, Born in 1958, Head of Batallion in the Republican Guard. Close to Maher Al Assad and President Bashar Al Assad. Involved in the crackdown on the civilian population across Syria.
General Gassan Belal, General in command of the 4th Division reserve bureau. Adviser to Maher Al Assad and coordinator of security operations. Responsible for the crackdown on the civilian population across Syria.
Abdullah Berri, Head of Berri family militia. In charge of pro-government militia involved in the crackdown on the civlians in Aleppo.
George Chaoui, Member of Syrian electronic army. Involved in the violent crackdown and call for violence against the civilian population across Syria.
Major General Zuhair Hamad, Deputy Head of General Intelligence Directorate. Responsible for the use of violence across Syria and intimidation and torture of protesters.
Amar Esmael, Civilian and head of Syrian electronic army (territorial army intelligence service). Involved in the violent crackdown and call for violence against the civilian population across Syria.
Mujahed Esmail, Member of Syrian electronic army. Involved in the violent crackdown and call for violence against the civilian population across Syria.
Saqr Khayr Bek, Deputy Minister for the Interior. Responsible for the use of violence against the civilian population in Syria.
Major General Nazih, Deputy Director of General Intelligence Directorate. Responsible for the use of violence across Syria and intimidation and torture of protesters.
Kifah Moulhem, Batallion Commander in the 4th Division. Responsible for the crackdown on the civilian population in Deir Al Zor.
Major General Wajih Mahmoud, Commander, 18th Armoured Division. Responsible for the violence against protestors in Homs. Bassam Sabbagh, Born on 24 August 1959 in Damascus. Head of Sabbagh & Associates law firm (Damascus). Member of the Paris Bar. Legal and financial adviser and manages affairs of Rami Makhlouf and Khaldoun Makhlouf. Involved with Bashar Al Assad in funding a real estate project in Latakia. Provides financial support for the regime.
Lt. General Tala Mustafa Tlass, Deputy Chief of General Staff (Logistics and supplies). Responsible for the use of violence against protesters across Syria.
Major General Fouad Tawil Deputy head Syrian Air Force Intelligence. Responsible for the use of violence across Syria and intimidation.
http://gulfnews.com/news/region/syria/eu-names-18-syrians-accused-of-supporting-the-regime-s-crackdown-1.931160
November 15th, 2011, 7:19 pm
jad said:
How is cutting electricity, and limiting water is the way to bring Democracy and Freedom? It’s against every Syrian and not against the regime:
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http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/25749
November 15th, 2011, 7:19 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Son of Damascus,
Read what Mustafah, an Israeli Arab has to say.
http://www.kr8.co.il/BRPortal/br/P102.jsp?arc=231462
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November 15th, 2011, 7:26 pm
jad said:
Where is the UN to strongly condemn? Oh I forgot, it’s kosher to attack diplomats in Palestine. How ironic for this to happen today.
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November 15th, 2011, 7:26 pm
jad said:
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http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/25811
November 15th, 2011, 7:28 pm
irritated said:
#24. jad said:
“Ghalyoun Menhebakjieh, bad news for you, it seems that his name means ‘Toilet’ in Russian, ”
This is why the Russian flushed him?
November 15th, 2011, 7:32 pm
jad said:
Dear Bronco, YMG,
Neo-Ottoman Turkey is ready to start the invasion:
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http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/25814
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http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionID=2004&ChannelID=47465&ArticleID=1549
November 15th, 2011, 7:32 pm
Tara said:
Zoo,
It appears that the EU has extensive info in regard to the military and security apparatus and personnel. I am sure the US shares their intelligence with the EU. Would they also have satellite images of the army bombarding Homs and towns in Horan. Can these images be used for indictment for crimes against humanity should the UNSC bring the regime case to the ICC?
November 15th, 2011, 7:33 pm
jna said:
21. Amir in Tel Avivsaid:
Son of Damascus,
You apparently read too much of the Arab press.
You know what do scare the Israeli Arab the most?
The prospect that they will have to live in a Palestinian state.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3997051,00.html
Ask the Israeli Arabs why do they like to live in Israel.
“…A recent opinion poll conducted by Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government found that 77 percent of Israeli Arabs would rather live in Israel than in any other country in the world”.
http://www.hks.harvard.edu/var/ezp_site/storage/fckeditor/file/pdfs/news-events/IMPACT_November_2008.pdf
.
1. You know what do scare the Israeli Arab the most?
The prospect that they will have to live in a Palestinian state.
If that is so, then, according to the article you linked, why “two-thirds of them are not willing to forgo the “right of return” demand.” which would presumably make “Israel” a Palestinian majority state.
2. “…A recent opinion poll conducted by Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government found that 77 percent of Israeli Arabs would rather live in Israel than in any other country in the world”.
Not to be joining the majority of fellow Palestinians waiting and waiting to enjoy their right of return to “Palestine”, their homeland.
Amir, please use common sense in reading propaganda analysis.
November 15th, 2011, 7:38 pm
jad said:
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http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionId=2004&ChannelId=47459&ArticleId=1584&Author=
November 15th, 2011, 7:39 pm
ss said:
22. majedkhaldoun said: “I expect strong statement from AL tomorrow, protecting Syrian must be included,sanction will not work”
Woooooo, what an ecpectation. We know that and we know more than that:
1. AL will continue to put pressure on Syria next step
2. Withdrawal of Arab consulates from Damascus; next
3. Withdrawal of Western consulates from Damascus; next
4. UN meeting to pass a law approving military attack on Syria, Nato will strike from Turkey.
Next:
We do not care, we are waiting for you guys, Syrian policy has survived the worst back in the 80s and will survive this one as well. Let the Turkish army come from the north, let the Nato strike. I bet you money they will dare to strike. Syria is the only Arab country that did not and will not bend for the west. That is why it gets out of one issue to find itself in another one.
November 15th, 2011, 7:44 pm
bronco said:
Jad
I am not clear about the buffer zone role in protecting civilians.
Does this mean the civilians who feel threatened will be transported by bus from Aleppo, Hama, Deir el Zoor, Deraa and Idlib to live in tents in the buffer zone? On a voluntary basis? Anyone would be welcomed or is it reserved for the FSA and families?
Is the buffer zone a convenient way is for Turkey to get rid of the 7,000 ‘guests’ they have in Hatay that are costing too much money and creating trouble and anyway Turkey is short of tents for the earthquake in Van. In the buffer zone, the UN will provide the tents and the food. Maybe there will be another visit of Angelina Jolie.
Is the buffer zone a convenient way for Turkey to bring weapons and arm the FSA to conduct attacks inside Syria.
May be just all of that and more.
November 15th, 2011, 7:46 pm
jad said:
Bronco,
I think the buffer zone meant for the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of the ‘defectors’ who will go there by the ‘millions’!
Few ‘millions’ of them are actually from the army but the other ‘millions’ are nothing but terrorists or foreigners.
It’ll be THE heaven for military support, so they put all of those ‘millions’ of ‘angles’ in one area and give them the training and the guns needed and let them do guerrilla warfare inside the country then come back to their protected bases in THE heaven after they kill some Syrians. The process might take between 1 week to 60 years we don’t know yet. But the buffer zone is an essential accessory for the neo-ottoman empire prestige.
I hope that I answered all your questions!
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November 15th, 2011, 8:03 pm
Tara said:
Ah.. There was a demonstration in Damascus proper in front of al Sham hotel and Damer ice cream place in support of Homs just shown on Aljazeera… Cool…
November 15th, 2011, 8:07 pm
bronco said:
Who are the 70 dead in Syria today? More soldiers than civilians.
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The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights:
«the number of victims killed civilians and military personnel in Syria, yesterday, increased to 70. 27 civilians were killed by security forces, while 34 soldiers and 12 of the army defectors dissidents were killed in clashes
http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionId=2004&ChannelId=47459&ArticleId=1584&Author
November 15th, 2011, 8:07 pm
Tara said:
Inside Syria’s Economic Implosion
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/11/15/inside_syrias_economic_implosion
Under the weight of sanctions and eight months of protests, the Syrian economy is starting to buckle. But that doesn’t mean business leaders will abandon the regime.
BY STEPHEN STARR | NOVEMBER 15, 2011
DAMASCUS, Syria – A Quran sits atop a 4-foot Sony speaker in Wissam’s modern Damascus office. It is 9 a.m., and Wissam, a stout 30-something businessman, seems flustered. He arrived a little late for this interview, wiping beads of sweat off his forehead before sitting down next to a cabinet, where books authored by Bill Gates and Warren Buffett peek out. Wissam’s company owns the import rights for Sony products in Syria, but he’s unlikely to sell many speakers or flat-screen televisions in the near future
“Business activity has recovered slightly, but it is still down about 40 percent” since March, when the protests began, he said. “I think companies can survive another six or maybe even 12 months, but beyond that it will be impossible.”
Wissam, like others in his position, is trapped. He recognizes the regime’s actions have damaged the country’s businesses, but feels powerless to do anything about it. “They feel they are under siege, and they won’t be moved,” he said, referring to the authorities.
Syrian business leaders, with much to lose and deeply fearful of the regime’s security apparatus, are unlikely to join the country’s ongoing revolt anytime soon. Even the businessmen interviewed for this article blanched upon seeing their remarks about the dismal state of the Syrian economy in print, quickly requesting anonymity to express themselves freely. The government’s rose-tinted pronouncements about the condition of Syrian finances aside, there is no doubt that the country’s economy is in dire straits.
The official line is that Syria’s economy is fine. In an August interview, Central Bank Governor Adib Mayaleh said that foreign reserves remain strong at about $18 billion — the same figure he was quoting earlier in the summer. President Bashar al-Assad has been somewhat more honest, arguing in June that “the most dangerous thing we face in the next stage is the weakness or collapse of the Syrian economy.”
But the facts on the ground are irrefutable. The International Monetary Fund projected in September that Syria’s economy will shrink by about 2 percent this year. Tourism, worth about 12 percent of GDP, has ceased completely. Employees in the huge and overburdened state sector have been asked by the authorities to “donate” 500 Syrian pounds (about $10) from their monthly salaries to help boost state funds. Deposits in Syria’s private banks declined as much as 18 percent in third quarter of this year, according to figures released by the Damascus Securities Exchange, despite high interest rates meant to shore up bank coffers.
November 15th, 2011, 8:15 pm
newfolder said:
FSA destroys an army tank in Baba Amro Homs, killing Bashar’s dogs and militia inside.
I can just feel all the Bashar groupies on this forum having a nervous breakdown, it’s delicious …. Bashar’s shitty army couldn’t even take Baba Amro, how the hell are they going to fight the full scale insurgency that’s coming very soon?
November 15th, 2011, 8:19 pm
jad said:
This regime is so stupid, why don’t they impose the emergency law and curfew allover Syria.
It is a real war on all fronts from all sides, they need to prepare people for the bleak days coming ahead instead of saying it’s finished every two days, they need to prepare Syrians for the alarm sirens and prepare all the bunkers to be ready to be used allover the country, what are they waiting for? Ra7met Allah!
November 15th, 2011, 8:22 pm
Tara said:
Assad’s exit in Syria “inevitable” : Saudi prince
November 15, 2011 10:03 PM
By Andrew Quinn
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2011/Nov-15/154179-assads-exit-in-syria-inevitable—saudi-prince.ashx#axzz1dpQgdcoX
WASHINGTON: Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s refusal to halt his government’s violence against its own people has made his departure from power inevitable, a senior Saudi prince said on Tuesday.
Prince Turki al-Faisal, the former chief of Saudi intelligence services, said Assad had made his position clear by failing to live up to commitments made under an Arab League initiative to stop the bloodshed and start political dialogue.
“Inevitably, I think, the lack of response of Mr. Assad to all the efforts made to end the fighting in Syria means that he’s taken the view of not accepting these matters,” he told a Washington, D.C., audience.
“In that context, there will be growing popular opposition to him, and killing every day. I think it’s inevitable that he will have to step down in one form or another.”
The nephew of Saudi Arabia’s king is a former ambassador to Washington and London and remains an influential public voice of Saudi Arabia’s royal family although he has held no official government role since retiring in 2006.
The prince said the Arab League had given Assad a “last chance” to comply with its proposal to resolve the situation and would now be expected to take further steps — citing Libya as a precedent.
He said that Saudi Arabia and its partners in the Gulf first brought Libya to the Arab League in March “and pushed the Arab League to take a decision to move the issue to the United Nations Security Council and bring about the resolution that allowed for intervention in Libya.”
“Whether the Arab League will go that route (on Syria), I really can’t say, but it is an option and it has been practiced by the Arab League,” he said.
The Arab League on Saturday voted to suspend Syria, but stopped short of calling for Assad’s departure or proposing any sort of Libya-style foreign intervention to resolve the crisis.
Arab foreign ministers are due to meet in Morocco on Wednesday to consider the next steps on Syria, where the United Nations estimates that some 3,500 civilians have been killed since anti-government protests began in March.
The United States and other Western nations have called on Assad to step aside and imposed a series of sanctions on his government.
November 15th, 2011, 8:23 pm
jna said:
Two great minds discuss strategic matters
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2011/11/two-great-minds-discuss-strategic.html
Where is Dr. Ziadeh to round out the picture?
November 15th, 2011, 8:29 pm
ann said:
Syria eyes Asia, Africa to offset Western sanctions – 16 November 2011
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/209387
CAIRO (Nov 15, 2011): Syria plans to strengthen economic ties with Asian and African countries to offset Western sanctions triggered by President Bashar al-Assad’s crackdown on anti-government protesters, the country’s economy and trade minister told an Egyptian newspaper.
Mohammad Nidal al-Shaar said the Syrian economy was bearing up well, with only European oil investments badly hit. But many analysts expect gross domestic product to decline this year, perhaps by several percent or more.
The eight-month crackdown has left more than 3,500 people dead, according to the United Nations.
The United States and the European Union have imposed sanctions on Syria’s oil industry and several state businesses in an effort to force Assad to halt the violence.
“Current investments in Syria have not been heavily affected by the events, except for European investments in oil,” Shaar told Egyptian newspaper al-Alam al-Youm.
He said Syria was looking at boosting trade with countries that had not imposed sanctions.
“Syrian companies are already exporting to Asia,” Shaar told the paper in an interview published on Tuesday.
“We have a lot of options … including Mercosur (Latin American bloc) countries, Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Africa and some countries from southeast Asia.”
Oil industry sources say oil majors Royal Dutch Shell and Total have slashed oil production in Syria because US and EU sanctions have warded off normal buyers of Syrian crude, causing storage tanks to fill and forcing cuts in output.
The uprising against Assad, inspired by Arab revolts elsewhere, has also scared off tourists and investors in other
industries.
But Shaar said Syria was coping.
“Practically, US sanctions have always been there and their effect will be limited,” he said.
“The Syrian economy has adapted to it.”
The Arab League said on Saturday suspended Syria, which may pave the way for even tougher sanctions.
Shaar said Europe’s non-oil sanctions only targeted the state-owned banking sector, and private-sector lenders and other industries were not affected.
“In light of the current crisis in Europe, such sanctions (on trade) will harm the European economy more than ours,” he said.
However, figures published in Damascus this month showed Syria’s main private banks saw customer withdrawals grow by hundreds of millions of dollars in the third quarter of the year. –Reuters
November 15th, 2011, 8:37 pm
Tara said:
Ira courting the opposition?
It is pretty disappointing. I thought Iran is loyal to Assad.
I like loyalty but it does not probably exist..
http://www.smh.com.au/world/assad-in-the-cold-as-iran-courts-syrian-opposition-20111115-1nh2z.html
Assad in the cold as Iran courts Syrian opposition
Richard Spencer
November 16, 2011
DUBAI: Iranian officials have held talks with Syrian opposition leaders, in a further sign of the growing isolation of the regime of the President, Bashar al-Assad.
Several opposition sources have confirmed that Iran opened a channel to a ”moderate” opposition group about a month
Officials met Haytham Manna, an activist from the National Co-ordination Committee for Democratic Change, and other members of the group. The body is strongly opposed to foreign intervention and is likely to be seen as more acceptable to Iran than the largest opposition group, the Syrian National Council, which has argued for ”international protection” for civilians.
”Iran used Haytham Manna to prepare for an opposition conference,” one opposition source said. But the attempt failed as ”no one trusted Iran”.
Iran’s leaders have publicly backed Dr Assad, an important ally in the face of criticism from some of their own followers.
Syrian opposition figures claimed early in the uprising that members of the Iranian al-Quds force, part of the Revolutionary Guard, were working with the Syrian army to quell protests. However, even the Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has shown signs of frustration with Dr Assad. In August, he called for the government to sit down with the opposition but by last month he was demanding Dr Assad implement reform.
Mr Manna did not reply to requests for comment, but it is likely Iran is trying to mould the wider views of the opposition on Israel and relations with the West rather than offering any real support.
Telegraph, London
November 15th, 2011, 8:40 pm
irritated said:
#47 Newfolder
LOL, HA HA HA from LaLa land
November 15th, 2011, 8:44 pm
ss said:
52#”Ira courting the opposition?
“It is pretty disappointing. I thought Iran is loyal to Assad.
I like loyalty but it does not probably exist..”
It is funny post really. lol
You are convencing
November 15th, 2011, 9:05 pm
zoo said:
Syria not to participate in AL ministerial meeting, Arab- Turkish forum in Morocco
2011-11-16 05:14:08
“the AL unanimously decided to suspend Syria’s membership” Typo?
DAMASCUS, Nov. 15 (Xinhua) — Syrian Foreign Ministry said Tuesday that Syria will neither take part in the 4th session of the Arab-Turkish Forum nor the Arab League (AL) ministerial meetings scheduled to convene in the Moroccan capital of Rabat Wednesday.
The foreign ministry said in a statement that Syrian authorities have decided not to take part in the AL ministerial meeting after they received statements issued by Moroccan officials.
However, the ministry did not spell details on Morocco’s statements.
An emergency meeting of AL foreign ministers is scheduled to convene Wednesday in Rabat to discuss measures they approved in Egypt’s capital of Cairo earlier in the week following the AL decision to suspend Syria’s membership in the pan-Arab body.
The meeting will take place on the sidelines of an Arab-Turkish cooperation forum attended by Turkey’s Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.
On Saturday, the AL unanimously decided to suspend Syria’s membership for allegedly failure to end a deadly crackdown on protesters, contrary to the Arab plan reached recently between Syrian government and the Arab ministerial committee. The suspension will go into effect as of Wednesday.
November 15th, 2011, 9:08 pm
Tara said:
Why is the Syrian government not publicizing the deaths of soldiers and security forces any more? Are they concerned of low morale, weakening of the army ‘spirit and more defection. Read below:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/world/middleeast/death-toll-mounts-in-syria-along-with-outside-pressure.html
Syria Faces New Threats as Opposition Seeks Allies
By NADA BAKRI and RICK GLADSTONE
Published: November 15, 2011
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The moves came a day after what some activists portrayed as one of the bloodiest episodes in the eight-month uprising. Reports were conflicting, but one human rights group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, based in Britain, said that more than 71 people were killed Monday, including 34 soldiers engaged in clashes with army defectors. If true, the deaths of the soldiers would constitute one of the highest tolls since defectors began carrying out attacks against government troops.
But unlike past episodes, when the Syrian government publicized the deaths of soldiers and security forces, official Syrian news outlets carried no reports about the clashes.
Another opposition group, the Local Coordination Committees, said it could not corroborate the Syrian Observatory’s account of the military casualties, though it also called Monday one of the uprising’s bloodier days, with at least 51 civilians killed. “We don’t have any confirmation of what they’re claiming,” said Omar Idlibi, a spokesman for the Local Coordination Committees.
…..
November 15th, 2011, 9:12 pm
Tara said:
SS
Hi, welcome back. Your posts are changing which is good. The dogma is no longer there. We are all evolving I guess. It is a good thing.
November 15th, 2011, 9:15 pm
Darryl said:
Will the Syrian Army kill innocent Civilians?
Giving all the propaganda and misinformation on Syria, has anyone here served in the Army? The reason I am asking this question, I was having dinner with a good friend who is from Aleppo and who served as an officer in the 1982 Lebanon war with Israel.
He comes from a military family and he is not a Baathist and certainly not pro-Assads. Normally we do not talk about politics, but on this occasion we discussed the Syrian issue and I mentioned all the video clips depicting the Syrian army shooting civilians. He was shocked and adamant that the army who takes an oath to protect civilians will do NO such thing. He believes the only way the army will shoot at people, if they came under direct attack and he was backing it up with the history of his family and his experience as a commanding officer in Lebanon.
So if you served in the Syrian army, what is your view?
November 15th, 2011, 9:18 pm
Norman said:
Tara,
Syria is telling the world about the army members death, but your beloved AL Jazeera and the western media are imposing a black out on that, about 30 to 40 % of the death are in the militery,
I just hope that Syria will stay determent and quite but prepare for what is comming, and when that come declare martial law and total call to arms. at that time i expect a real civil war between the secularist/Baathists and the Islamist,
Newt Gingrich in the last Republican debate warn of the rise of the Islamists in Egypt and their attack on the Copts of Egypt.
November 15th, 2011, 9:21 pm
ss said:
48#
“This regime is so stupid, why don’t they impose the emergency law and curfew allover Syria.
It is a real war on all fronts from all sides, they need to prepare people for the bleak days coming ahead instead of saying it’s finished every two days, they need to prepare Syrians for the alarm sirens and prepare all the bunkers to be ready to be used allover the country, what are they waiting for? Ra7met Allah!”
What sirens and bunkers,,,for what. The regime is absorbing the shock it got from the AL but it will respond. Notice till now the presedent did not say anything, did not use provocative language, and he is still hoping for a political solutions, knowing that there is known, but he is practicing patients even when dealing with these thugs. What had happened the last 8 months would have brought any regime down, Lybiya in months, Egypte in weeks, Tunisia in days. The regime had so far succeeded by all means in absorbing the pressure that is coming from every where. Syria will gain nothing by promoting war. We do not want war, but when war comes to our door you will play our cards. This cloud will be over but not anytime soon. Hariri case has been going on for years let aside this one.
November 15th, 2011, 9:22 pm
Tara said:
Norman
Read the post again. It says that Syria did not publicize the army and the security forces death this time CONTRARY to past episodes. Why? Concerned of low morale after the humiliation by the AL?
November 15th, 2011, 9:27 pm
ss said:
“I just hope that Syria will stay determent and quite but prepare for what is comming, and when that come declare martial law and total call to arms. at that time i expect a real civil war between the secularist/Baathists and the Islamist”
Oh my god,, civil war?
Give me a break Norman, we are far away from civil war.
Millions of people are out supporting the unity in syria under the current goverment and believe me not because they are in love with Assad but because they are afraid of the future. Many Sunni business men are fed up with this unrest and they do not want to takle the country to the unknown. There are a lot of support for the Assad at this time from all sectors except MBBBBBBBBBBB because no one wants Lybia, and Egypt case which proved to be total failure.
I am not saying that we will never reach that point, I hope not, I do not see a civil war coming anytime soon. Syria is quite, and I agree with you, and has not reponded yet to the pressure, they are practicing patience even in killing MBBBBBBBBBb. For now will listen to the barks of the dogs around us for a while, then everything will be okay. Cool down. Cheers
November 15th, 2011, 9:32 pm
Ghufran said:
I do not think a political solution that includes keeping Bashar is viable any more. The focus now should be forming a team that represents elements from the regime that are acceptable to the opposition to carry a dialogue that ends with a unity government and a set of principles that satisfy both sides. This is the time to realize that the only way out is to isolate militant and violent groups from any future deal,but invite everybody else.
Ghalioun repeated his refusal for a Libyan scenario and declared his readiness to talk to anybody whose hands “are not tainted with Syrian blood”. The same sentiment was echoed by the CC.
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November 15th, 2011, 9:34 pm
Norman said:
Ghufran,
Why do you think that the army will talk to the terrorists that are responsible for the death of more than a thousand, Gulion and his friends in the SNC are responsible, the time for half measures , i believe ,is gone, now is the time for a full scale assault,
SS, i am sorry to tell that according to my information, Homs is in a starting civil war, The government so far is not able to secure the civilians there.
I wish that i am as optomistic as you are,
November 15th, 2011, 9:54 pm
Revlon said:
Implications of the formation of the Transitional Military council (TMC) by the Free Syrian Army leadership (FSA):
Part I
On Monday 14/11/ 2011, Syria virtually entered a new phase in its history.
It became legally under the mandate of the TMC of the FSA.
The Syrian revolution bestowed legitimacy on the FSA as their legal armed forces.
The FSA acted upon such vested powers by announcing the TMC to henceforth establish them as the supreme ruler of Syria.
The venue where it was announced implies the backing of Turkey, and henceforth a US encouragement and support.
The Turkish government and military leadership wanted guarantees that their Kurdish debacle would not deteriorate should a power vacuum ensue upon collapse of the regime.
The SNC could only mediate political stability. However, the hosted TMC would have the power to enforce such stability on the ground.
November 15th, 2011, 9:55 pm
Observer said:
Many on this post have opted for full declaration of martial law and war on the armed terrorist gangs wrecking the country.
Which one is willing to volunteer?
I would like to ask which of you is willing to take a leave of absence from work for one year to go fight for the present Syrian regime. Those who are willing to do that should move to Syria if already in Syria quit their jobs to join the military immediately.
Volunteers please now
November 15th, 2011, 10:04 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Some expect Turkey to create buffer zone,AL probably will not agree to that,some say It would be a mistake to agree,
My question if Bashar loose Damascus, where would he go? Qurdaha,or Reqqa?
November 15th, 2011, 10:08 pm
newfolder said:
Fsa attacks mukhabarat right in Damascus. Must be getting closer to Bisho crapping himself time. so soon?
Syrian army defectors attack Air Force Intelligence complex near Damascus, activists say – Reuters.
http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=245734
AMMAN – Syrian army defectors attacked an intelligence complex on the edge of Damascus early on Wednesday, in the first reported assault on a major security facility in the eight-month uprising against President Bashar Assad, activists said.
Members of the Free Syrian Army fired shoulder-mounted rockets and machine guns at a large Air Force Intelligence complex situated on the northern edge of the capital on the Damascus-Aleppo highway at about 2:30 a.m. (0030 GMT). A gunfight ensued and helicopters circled the area, the sources said.
Together with Military Intelligence, Air Force Intelligence is in charge of preventing dissent within the army. The two divisions have been instrumental in a crackdown on the uprising against Assad, which the United Nations says has killed 3,500 people.
November 15th, 2011, 10:08 pm
Revlon said:
Implications of the formation of the Transitional Military council (TMC) by the Free Syrian Army leadership (FSA):
Part II
” FSA tasks include the deliberation of the following matters:
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1. Armed forces goals of
– taking down the regime,
– protecting civilians from attacks by regime forces
– protecting public properties
– preventing choas and acts of revenge upon the collapse of the regime”
________________________________________________________________
The TMC have expaned on initial aimes of the FSA in defending civilians and their properties to include the following:
1. Taking down the regime. Such implies that FSA operarations shall be no longer limited to guarding of demonstrations.
2. Guaranteeing law and order in the post-regime collapse phase, in order to prevent unlawuful vengeful attacks on people or property from any side.
November 15th, 2011, 10:10 pm
Revlon said:
Readings into the announced tasks of the newly formed TMC in the FSA
” FSA tasks include the deliberation of the following matters:
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The TMC assumes the responsibilities of the Amnesty commision, stipulated in the current laws, applicable to civil and military court rulings on cases related to the revolution since its inception.
The president of The FSA have the power to present to the TMC requests for amnesty for consideration.”
__________________________________________________________________
The TMC shall have the powers to reverse civil or military court rulings related to the events of the revolution, that have been made by the current regime.
Such means, imprisoned activists and army defectors do not have to wait for the red tape of existing civil judicial system to be freed.
November 15th, 2011, 10:25 pm
Revlon said:
Readings into the announced tasks of the newly formed TMC in the FSA
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6. Decrees are passed if agreed upon by majority of 2/3rds of members.
Such clause reflects transparency on the mechanisms of decision making and shows a pragmatic approach to resolving potential conflicts of opinion within the council
November 15th, 2011, 10:41 pm
Ghufran said:
Norman
To make peace you have to talk to people you do not like. The SNC will either be split into two camps or accept a compromise. Most opposition figures are not able to sell negotiating a deal to their base if Bashar and his family are on the other end. If the SNC does not compromise on less touchy issues they will lose more support ,and if they listen to Ghalioun,assuming that he does not change his mind,they will only lose idiots they do not need.
November 15th, 2011, 10:41 pm
Revlon said:
Readings into the announced tasks of the newly formed TMC in the FSA
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13. A special Revolution Military Court is is established to prosecute members of the regime who are found guilty of murder or assault on civilians or vandalsim, as deemed fit by the commander of the FSA.
It applies related rules of martial courts.))
__________________________________________________________________
This special court was established to try regime elements that have not yet defected as of the date of the announcement of the TMC.
It stipulates that that the responsibility for trying the top clan, including Jr would be the sole responsibility of the TMC.
It means that members of Asad armed forces including army, security and Shabbeha would be liable to be court martialed if caught prisoners by the FSA and found guilty of treason.
This item may potentially have a significant psychological impact in nodging the undecided half-hearted, pro-regime elements to defect.
November 15th, 2011, 10:58 pm
Ghufran said:
The opinion of a Mundass
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November 15th, 2011, 11:00 pm
jad said:
SS,
“What sirens and bunkers,,,for what.”
What if Turkey go ahead with its threats and start to bombard Syria, don’t you think that people need to be prepared for such scenario?
November 15th, 2011, 11:01 pm
Ghufran said:
Another Mundass commenting on Mr Beef’s son brilliant statement
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November 15th, 2011, 11:08 pm
Ghufran said:
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November 15th, 2011, 11:14 pm
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November 15th, 2011, 11:47 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Most likely AL will call for Bashar to leave, and call for no fly zone.
November 15th, 2011, 11:55 pm
Revlon said:
Readings into the announced tasks of the newly formed TMC in the FSA
Part VI
((16?- ??? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?? ?????? .
The TMC may initiate contacts with foreign governments, organisations, individuals, or military groups within and outside Syria.))
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This clause stresses one aspect of their executive powers as the supreme military ruler of Syria; initiating negotiations with parties within and out side Syria, including individuals, groups, and governments.
November 16th, 2011, 12:25 am
Revlon said:
Readings into the announced tasks of the newly formed TMC in the FSA
Part VII
((24- ???? ???? ????? ???? ????? ????? ??? ????? ????????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ???????? ??? ????? ?????? ???????? ???????? ??????? .
The commander instructs all elements of the army to abide by the international laws concerning the protection of civilians and civil properties.))
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The TMC is committed to protect civilians and their living as per the principles of the international law.
This clause provides assurance to allay fears of certain civilian communities from choas-related harm in the aftermath of the regime collapse.
November 16th, 2011, 12:37 am
Revlon said:
Readings into the announced tasks of the newly formed TMC in the FSA
Part VIII/VIII
(( ???????14/11/2011??????? ??????? 18/?? ?????/1432????
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Monday 14/11/201
Colonel, Riad Al Asaad
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???? ?????? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ??????? ????? ?????
FSA xommander, Colonel Riad AlAsaad announces the formation of
the TMC and lodges a request with the Turkish Government for military assistance, in order to bring Asad regime to an end.))
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This annotation was probably inserted to announce that the Turkish government has probably agreed to arm the FSA and that they want their intentions or plans to be publicly known.
November 16th, 2011, 12:45 am
Syria no kandahar said:
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November 16th, 2011, 1:36 am
Dale Andersen said:
Transitional Military Council
TMC
Get used to hearing it, Spammie Annie. And please cut and paste lots of articles about the TMC…
November 16th, 2011, 2:03 am
Dale Andersen said:
THIS IS FUNNY!!!
http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/04/arab-news-fox-news-style.html
November 16th, 2011, 2:30 am
jad said:
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November 16th, 2011, 2:31 am
jad said:
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http://www.elnashra.com/news/show/405955/???-??????-????-?????-??????????-?????-?????-?????
November 16th, 2011, 2:51 am
Uzair8 said:
The regime is a LYING BULLY.
Dont let it play the victim.
..Ohh we are being ganged up against.
..Ohh a conspiracy is targeting us.
..Ohh etc etc.
November 16th, 2011, 3:09 am
Uzair8 said:
@32 JAD said:
“How is cutting electricity, and limiting water is the way to bring Democracy and Freedom? It’s against every Syrian and not against the regime:”
How is besieging towns and cities and cutting of electricity, communications, hospital access etc pushing ahead with reforms?
A lying bully only understands the language of force and sanctions.
November 16th, 2011, 3:13 am
Khalid Tlass said:
565. Tara said:
“Khaled
I think you are trying to project your dogma as a salafist on the Syrian revolution forgetting that salafists virtually do not exist among the rank of the demonstrators. The FSA goal is to defend the demonstrators and the innocent civilians. They were not engaged in offensive operations against the army. If you think otherwise, you have to prove it and please don’t quote SANA or Aldoonya.”
I am extremely hurt by this statement TARA. Yes, I am a Salafi and that is my religious belief. I fully support offensive atrmed actions against loyalist Army, what I said was FSA mst restrain themslevs these 4 days and again go on the offensive later.
Offensive actions are necessary to protect civilians sometimes, unfortunately both GHUFRAN and TARA dont realize that.
And GHUFRAN, don;t be rejoicing too soon smarty. The reason I have appeared a bit more moderate, restrained and polite these last 3 days is becoz I feel WE are in a strong position now and we have the upper hand. I am no longer frustrated and angry, which is why my posts have become more moderate and polite. I am very forgiving and kind when I am strong.
November 16th, 2011, 3:19 am
Khalid Tlass said:
And I treat al people equally whether a shoeshine boy or a Surgeon. Hence my impolite manner of addressing people like Ghufran ( Abu Ghassan) and Norman. I have the same manners for everybody.
November 16th, 2011, 3:21 am
Uzair8 said:
The latest post suggests that sanctions will not change the regime.
Maybe or maybe not. However sanctions can affect the situation in other ways. Sanctions may weaken the loyalty of the business class to the regime who may even abandon it. As the standard of life deteriorates people may question the point of supporting a dying regime.
If the regime’s support falls then regime change becomes more likely. Sanctions will surely contribute to its demise when combined with other factors.
November 16th, 2011, 3:25 am
Khalid Tlass said:
Sanctions will make their regime’s life hell, but first the FSA needs to crack down on the goddamn Turkmani smugglers in Aleppo and Hasakeh who are smuggling for the regime the regime.
November 16th, 2011, 3:28 am
Khalid Tlass said:
565. Tara said:
“Khaled
I think you are trying to project your dogma as a salafist on the Syrian revolution forgetting that salafists virtually do not exist among the rank of the demonstrators. The FSA goal is to defend the demonstrators and the innocent civilians. They were not engaged in offensive operations against the army. If you think otherwise, you have to prove it and please don’t quote SANA or Aldoonya.”
I am extremely hurt by this statement TARA. Yes, I am a Salafi and that is my religious belief. I fully support offensive atrmed actions against loyalist Army, what I said was FSA must restrain themslevs these 4 days and again go on the offensive later.
Offensive actions are necessary to protect civilians sometimes, unfortunately both GHUFRAN and TARA dont realize that.
And GHUFRAN, don’t be rejoicing too soon smarty. The reason I have appeared a bit more moderate, restrained and polite these last 3 days is becoz I feel WE are in a strong position now and we have the upper hand. I am no longer frustrated and angry, which is why my posts have become more moderate and polite. I am very forgiving and kind when I feel happy. I am very happy with AL’s strictness with Junior, hence I decided to be a little less aggressive, its strange that Ghufran and Tara comprehended it as a change of sides or a change of heart.
November 16th, 2011, 3:31 am
Khalid Tlass said:
Ghufran, your hopes for a “coup” by the Army against Junior, are naive to say the least. Old man Hafez structured the Army to prevebt just this eventuality. IN 1984, the old man got a heart attack, and a coteire of Geberals, led by Hikmat Shihabi and Mustafa Tlass were governing the country on his behalf. This made the sectarian Alawis led by the lead thug Rifaat al Assad jittery, fearing a “Sunni coup”. Rifaat al Assad, tried to launch a full scale Coup, with his 25,000 heavily armed Alawi thugs, the “Saraya Difaa” or Defense Companies, the predecessor of today’s 4th Division and “special forces”. He failed. Today the only man capable of launching a similar coup against Besho is Maher al ASsad with his Alawi thugs. I’m sure no sane Syrian would want Maher for President.
I think a good thing will be to Besho fall in the same way as Anwar al Sadat in 1981, you know what I mean.
November 16th, 2011, 3:39 am
Uzair8 said:
I heard Mr Ridwan Ziadeh on BBC World Service over 5 hrs ago.
He was quaestioned about the visit to Russia.
This is followed by an interview with journalist Andrew Tabler, author of ‘In the Lion’s Den: Inside America’s Cold War with Assad’s Syria.’ He has met Assad in the past.
Less than 8 minutes total.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p00lf1ch
November 16th, 2011, 3:42 am
Uzair8 said:
Syrian director slams syndicate for pro-regime stance
Tuesday, 15 November 2011
Prominent Syrian director Haitham Haqqi lashed out at the Artists Syndicate in his country for its bias towards the regime and its organization of protests in support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
“The syndicate is putting pressure on its members to go to pro-Assad rallies and at the same time it is totally overlooking the crimes committed by the regime against civilians,” Haqqi wrote on his page on the social networking website Facebook.
Haqqi explained that since the protests started against the regime eight months ago, he has been receiving messages from the syndicate calling upon its members to support Assad.
“I have never received any statement from the syndicate in defense of artists who were arrested or threatened although the majority of artists expressed their wish to have a multi- party system. This is in addition to the several artists that are paying the price of their outspokenness,” he said.
Read more:
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/11/15/177314.html
November 16th, 2011, 4:17 am
Mina said:
Wonderful life
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/26672/World/Region/Marzouki-appointed-new-interim-Tunisian-president-.aspx
http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsContent/1/64/26679/Egypt/Politics-/Islamic-scholar-Shoman-crashes-Hisham-Abbas-concer.aspx
If you think these guys are not well organized and dont depend on Gulf money. If you think the Gulf elderlies dont need this fresh blood for their decadent regimes to survive…
November 16th, 2011, 5:54 am
Revlon said:
AlFarouq phalange of the FSA destroy an Asad army tank
Baba Amr, Homs
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November 16th, 2011, 6:42 am
Revlon said:
A graphic depiction of physical and verbal abuse of detained young demonstrators by coward, Asad forces:
– Profanity
– Belting, stomping, and sodomising
Jr thugs were doing all of that because the arrested youth were asking for freedom!
AlRaml AlFalasteeni, latakia
November 16th, 2011, 7:06 am
Akbar Palace said:
Khalid Tlass said:
Yes, I am a Salafi and that is my religious belief.
Khalid Tlass,
Does being a Salafi mean you are not allowed to have contact with Jews?
Abstaining from “innovative” beliefs and practices
They also point out that Muhammad himself warned against the people of innovation, from befriending, supporting, or taking from them, as he stated:
Whoever innovates or accommodates an innovator then upon him is the curse of Allah, His Angels, and the whole of mankind.[19]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi
November 16th, 2011, 7:08 am
Revlon said:
Two officers defect and join Martyr Ahmad AlKhalaf Phalange.
Its special task force, in cooperation with counterpart of Martyrs of Freedom Phalange executed an operation against Asad forces convoy on Elmat Soura Road, resulting in destruction of Ber D M armored vehicle and a personnel carrier and the killing of 50 of Asad forces.
Video of the annoncement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFemkXqWfdU&feature=player_embedded
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Video of the burning vehicles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_GV6yIo6Es&feature=player_embedded????? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?? ????? 14 11 2011
November 16th, 2011, 7:18 am
ann said:
Syria releases 1,180 prisoners detained during months-long unrest
2011-11-16
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-11/16/c_131248892.htm
DAMASCUS, Nov. 15 (Xinhua) — The Syrian government released Tuesday a total of 1,180 prisoners arrested during the eight-month- long unrest who didn’t commit homicide crimes, the state-run SANA news agency reported.
Earlier this month, Syria released 553 prisoners on the occasion of the Muslim’s Eid al-Adha holiday.
The private al-Watan newspaper said Tuesday that Syrian authorities released on Monday hundreds of Syrian prisoners who were arrested during the unrest in the country.
Activists said thousands of people have been detained during the eight-month-old unrest in Syria.
Protesters in Syria demanded the release of those arrested during the crisis which is also part of a peace plan reached between the Syrian government and the Arab League, aiming at bringing an end to the Syrian political crisis.
Meanwhile, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human rights said a total of 34 soldiers were killed in an ambush in the southern province of Daraa by armed men believed to be army defectors.
Al-Watan said Tuesday that statistics of the National Hospital in the central province of Homs showed that 3,230 civilians and military personnel had been killed or injured by “armed gangs” in the province since the eruption of unrest in the country in mid March.
November 16th, 2011, 7:22 am
Revlon said:
Five soldiers, one of them wounded, defect on the day of the AL annoncement of the suspension of Regime membership.
They look distraught and in not so well physical condition, which reflects the new lows that Asad forces have reached!
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November 16th, 2011, 7:26 am
ann said:
Syrians rally in solidarity with embattled president – 2011-11-16
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-11/16/c_131251164.htm
DAMASCUS, Nov. 16 (Xinhua) — Thousands of Syrians thronged public squares in several Syrian provinces on Wednesday to demonstrate solidarity with embattled President Bashar al-Assad.
The rallies were held to mark the 41st anniversary of the ” correctionist movement” led by former President Hafez al-Assad, father of the current president.
They were also meant to denounce a decision by the Arab League (AL) to suspend Syria’s membership in the organization ahead of a meeting of Arab foreign ministers in the Moroccan capital of Rabat that aims to discuss measures for the Syrian crisis.
Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem initially announced that Syria would take part in the ministerial meeting, but member states of the Gulf Cooperation Council warned that they would not attend the meeting if Syria did.
A source at the Syrian Foreign Ministry said late Tuesday that Syria had decided to boycott the AL meeting in Morocco in protest of some statements by Moroccan officials.
The source, whose remarks were carried by the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA), said that “Syria’s initial decision to participate in the Rabat meeting was taken in compliance with the desire of some sisterly countries, but in light of the statements, of which we have been informed from officials in Morocco, Syria has decided not to attend.”
The source did not disclose the contents of these statements.
Syria has been in unrest for about eight months. Foreign reports said 3,500 Syrians had been killed since the anti- government protests erupted in March, while Syrian government said hundreds of security and army personnel were killed by armed groups backed by a foreign conspiracy with the aim of toppling the Assad government.
The Free Syrian Army, an alleged group of army defectors, reportedly said they had attacked several military sites, including an intelligence facility and some military checkpoints near the capital of Damascus on Tuesday and early Wednesday.
The opposition’s report, however, could not be independently verified with the absence of official reaction.
Meanwhile, al-Watan newspaper said that more than 100 people were kidnapped over the past few days in the al-Zahra neighborhood in the central province of Homs, adding that kidnapping has become a daily occurrence in Homs and has further tensed the situation there.
The paper said seven mutilated bodies were found in the al- Muhajereen area in Homs on Tuesday, adding that two army members were killed and 25 others injured in different attacks in the city.
In another central province of Hama, a law-enforcement agent was killed and eight others wounded in an ambush by armed groups in Kafr Zeita.
In a related development, SANA said the Syrian authorities seized a large number of advanced communication devices from some armed groups in several areas in the country.
November 16th, 2011, 7:29 am
Revlon said:
AllahuAkbar Phalange announce a series of operations in the eastern region resulting in the destruction of a number of vehicles and killing of their pasengers of Asad forces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn0Yq_umCBE&feature=player_embedded
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November 16th, 2011, 7:31 am
ann said:
The Humanitarian War in Syria
The Humanitarian War of the NED and the FIDH in Syria
The National Endowment for Democracy, or NED, is an organization that presents itself as an NGO officially dedicated to “the growth and strengthening of democratic institutions around the world”. But in reality gets 95% of its budget from the United States Congress. It was officially created by the Reagan administration in 1982.
http://laguerrehumanitaire-lefilm.tumblr.com/Syria
The nature of the NED has led many contemporary intellectuals and researchers to describe it as an agency enabling US secret services to overthrow regimes which the State Department dislikes.
This description was supported by the testimony of Oliviet Guilmain, a researcher at the CECE (Centre for the comparative study of elections), during an information session at the French Senate concerning financing of the electoral process. It is known that the NED finances opposition parties in numerous countries and provides special aid to exiles and opponents of regimes targeted by the US State Department.
In Syria, NED’s main organization is the Damascus Center for Human Rights Studies. It is also a partner of the International Human Rights Federation (FIDH) which received $140,000 following a meeting in December 2009 between Carl Gershman and self-styled French human rights organizations. NED’s French contact was François Zimeray, who was former Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner’s Ambassador for Human Rights. Those present during that meeting included the Catholic Committee against Hunger and for Development (CCFD), the African section of AEDH (Act Together for Human Rights), Reporters Without Borders, SOS Racisme and the FIDH.
The International Federation of Human Rights is thus an official partner of the NED, as is also shown by its support for the allegations made by the ex-secretary general of the Libyan Human Rights League – also attached to the FIDH – against the government of Moammer Kadhafi. Those allegations, also supported by the NGO “U.N Watch”, were what set off the diplomatic procedures against the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya.
In Syria, Dr Radwan Ziadeh is the director of the Damascus Center for Human Rights Studies. His highly impressive biography makes clear his engagement in favor of US foreign policy in the Middle East. In particular, he is a member of the Middle East Studies Association (MESA) and director of the Syrian Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Washington. He was present alongside Aly Abuzakuuk – one of the NED representatives in Libya – on the occasion of the Round Table of the Democracy Awards bestowed upon “human rights activists” by the NED.
Moreover, there are strong similarities between the process of Humanitarian War in Libya and what is being elaborated in regard to Syria. For example, U.N. Watch, an organization that coordinates the operations of the NED and the FIDH in Geneva, has already launched several petitions against the regime of Bachar Al-Assad. These raise against Syria the same allegations of massacres as those put forth by the ex-secretary of the Libyan Human Rights league, Sliman Bouchuiguir, at the UN Human Rights Council against Libya.
It is therefore urgent to denounce these procedures, all the more since recent history shows us that these allegations were not verified in the case of Libya, but also that they were not based on any solid proof, contrary to the claims of the International Criminal Court.
Julien Teil
November 16th, 2011, 7:34 am
irritated said:
Hurray! We have a Salafi among us who is proud enough to admit it! More salafi will soon come out now that the violent chaos they cherish has started so we can see the real color of this uprising.
Who is next?
Khaled Tlass said:
“I am a Salafi and that is my religious belief. I fully support offensive atrmed actions against loyalist Army, what I said was FSA mst restrain themslevs these 4 days and again go on the offensive later.
November 16th, 2011, 7:43 am
irritated said:
# 106. Revlon said:
AllahuAkbar Phalange
Such a secular name! It inspires immediate trust.
November 16th, 2011, 7:46 am
ann said:
“”# 106. Revlon said: AllahuAkbar Phalange””
allahuakbar on Syria Comment!! 9/11 phalange!!
November 16th, 2011, 7:53 am
irritated said:
#104. Revlon
They look more like they are being bullied, just by the tone of the authoritarian voice of the person asking one of them to show his id cards. Poor kids!
“Five soldiers, one of them wounded, defect on the day of the AL annoncement of the suspension of Regime membership.
They look distraught and in not so well physical condition, which reflects the new lows that Asad forces have reached!”
November 16th, 2011, 7:54 am
ann said:
Iranian official stresses all-out support for Syria – 2011-11-16
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-11/16/c_131250931.htm
TEHRAN, Nov. 16 (Xinhua) — Head of Iran’s Human Rights Council Mohammad-Javad Larijani reiterated Tehran’s continued all-out support for Syria, the semi-official Fars news agency reported Wednesday.
“Iran’s future relations with Syria will be as strong as they are now,” Larijani was quoted as saying.
Larijani said Iran is against using military force to interfere in the Syrian affairs.
The main objective of the West’s interference in Syria is not helping Syria but helping Israel, he said, adding that the West should leave the Syrians’ affairs to themselves.
People in the Arab states can resolve their own problems without foreign interference, he was quoted as saying.
Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast said Monday that the Arab League (AL) resolution to suspend Syria’s activities in the AL will complicate the situation.
The AL resolution stipulated that activities of the Syrian delegation in the pan-Arab body be suspended since Wednesday.
The AL also called on its members to withdraw their ambassadors in Syria and urged sanctions on Damascus until a peace plan it brokered was implemented.
Syria and the AL reached an agreement on Nov. 2 on a peace plan to end the Syrian crisis, but some reports said Syria was heedless of the agreement and kept cracking down on protestors.
Mehmanparast said Sunday that the vote to suspend Syria’s activities in the AL will not resolve its issue.
Warning against any foreign interference in the region, he said that the AL’s decision was made amid trans-regional efforts to interfere in Syria’s internal affairs.
On Sunday, the rapporteur of Iranian parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Commission offered Tehran’s full support to Syria as a main pillar of resistance against the U.S. and the “Zionist regime’s” policies in the region, said Fars.
November 16th, 2011, 8:00 am
ann said:
Syrian opposition urges Russia to press Assad to leave – 2011-11-16
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/video/2011-11/16/c_131250313.htm
BEIJING, Nov. 16 (Xinhuanet) — Syrian opposition leaders have pressed Moscow to join international calls for the resignation of President Bashar al-Assad.
After meeting Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, the head of the main Syrian National Council opposition group said dialogue would not work without sufficient pressure on Assad.
But instead, Russia says it has called “extremely clearly” on oppositions to resolve the crisis in Syria through the launch of dialogue between the Syrian government and the opposition.
November 16th, 2011, 8:14 am
ann said:
U.S. welcomes Turkish hard stance on Syria – 2011-11-16
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-11/16/c_131248935.htm
WASHINGTON, Nov. 15 (Xinhua) — The U.S. on Tuesday welcomed Turkey’s hard stance and decision to impose energy sanctions on Syria, a White House official told reporters, asserting that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been isolated.
“We very much welcome the strong stance that Turkey has taken and believe it sends a critical message to President Assad that he cannot crack down and oppress the aspirations of his people,” White House deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said while traveling with President Barack Obama on Air Force One.
Turkey may consider terminating sale of electricity to neighboring Syria if tensions continue to escalate over the alleged Syrian crackdown on anti-government protests, Turkish Energy Minister Taner Yildiz said Tuesday.
Yildiz’s statement came hours after Turkish President Abdullah Gul and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan slammed the Syrian government for the weekend’s attacks on the Turkish diplomatic missions in Syria following an Arab League (AL) decision to suspend Syria’s membership in the organization.
“Turkey’s comments today further point to the fact that President Assad is isolated,” said Rhodes, urging him to step down.
“We see a growing tide of international opinion against President Assad. We welcome that and have sought to build upon that to apply pressure on the Assad regime,” he said.
The Arab league decided on Saturday to suspend Syria’s membership, to be effective on Wednesday, and then called on its members to withdraw ambassadors and impose sanctions on Damascus until it implements a peace plan brokered by the regional body, under which Syria would have stopped violence and withdrawn military vehicles from cities, released detainees and held dialogue with the opposition.
Washington on Tuesday urged the Arab League, in its meeting scheduled for Wednesday in Morocco, to send a “forceful message” to Syria.
November 16th, 2011, 8:17 am
bronco said:
BBC interview with a leading member of the FSA on 16 november
He accuses Turkey of not providing any help and even hampering their operations. He says they are getting no help whatsoever from any country. They don’t want to stay in Turkey, they want to go back to Syria to attack anyone who is siding with the government.
He advises the soldiers of the Syrian army that in order not be targeted, they should defect and join them.
He announced that the attack in Harasta is the FSA’s work while the BBC correspondent in Damas, Assaf Abboud admits that it is not clear yet who was behind this attack that lasted 15 minutes and was only reported by the activists and not by the Syrian press.
November 16th, 2011, 8:32 am
ann said:
U.S. urges Arab League for “forceful message” to Assad – 2011-11-16
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-11/16/c_131248943.htm
WASHINGTON, Nov. 15 (Xinhua) — The U.S. State Department on Tuesday urged the Arab League to send a forceful message to Syria, insisting that its president Bashar al-Assad must allow for transition and end violence against the civilians.
“We were, as I said yesterday, quite pleased with the very strong and forceful statement that came out over the weekend,” said State Department spokesman Mark Toner, referring to the decision by the Arab League on Saturday to suspend Syria’s membership in this pan-Arab organization.
“We look for the Arab League tomorrow to, again, send a forceful message to Assad that he needs to allow for democratic transition to take place and to end the violence against his people,” he said, ahead of the Arab League meeting scheduled for Wednesday in Morocco.
Besides the suspension of Syria’s membership, the Arab league on Saturday called on its members to withdraw ambassadors and impose sanctions on Damascus until it implements a peace plan brokered by the regional body, under which Syria would have stopped violence and withdrawn military vehicles from cities, released detainees and held dialogue with the opposition.
Toner said that the U.S. embassy in Damascus reported that 42 civilians were killed by Syrian government forces on Monday, which is described by him as an “increased violence” by the Assad regime against the protesters.
He cited the latest sanctions imposed by the European Union against 18 individuals in Syria who are linked to government crackdown and Turkey’s strong statement which threatened to cut electricity to Syria if violence continue to escalate.
“The drumbeat of international pressure is increasing on Assad, ” Toner noted.
He also said that the U.S. is in contact with various Syrian opposition groups, including the Syrian National Council.
“We’ve said before that we don’t believe they’re the sole interlocutors such as the TNC was in Libya, but we do believe that they’re very much a credible interlocutor and representing the Syrian opposition,” he said.
“We certainly do consider the Syrian opposition to be developing to becoming more cohesive as we move forward,” Toner added.
November 16th, 2011, 8:32 am
ann said:
‘US insisting on Israeli-friendly Syria’ – Wed Nov 16, 2011
The secretary general of Iran’s High Council for Human Rights insists that the US desires a submissive regime in Syria that makes obeisance to Israel’s presence in the Middle East.
http://presstv.com/detail/210397.html
“The Americans want a government in Syria that kneels down to Israel,” Mohammad-Javad Larijani said on Tuesday in an interview with the Al Jazeera news channel in New York on the sidelines of a meeting of the United Nations General Assembly’s Third Committee.
The US interests, particularly in the neighboring countries of occupied Palestine, do not lie in democracy, he said, adding that Washington prefers authoritative regimes that support the Israeli regime.
The senior Iranian human rights official noted that Iran is not against the popular uprising in Syria; however, he said, the Islamic Republic opposes the onset of civil war as a result of provoking people to resort to violence and sending in armed gangs.
Iran supports any decision made by the Syrian nation, and their choice will never pose a threat to the Islamic Republic, and Tehran hails the recent developments in the Muslim world, he added.
Larijani noted that what happened in Libya cannot be repeated in Syria and warned the US against adopting the same policy against Damascus as it took against the former Libyan regime.
On March 19, NATO unleashed a major air campaign against former Libyan regime forces under a UN mandate namely to “protect the Libyan population.”
Larijani suggested that the best policy to adopt in Syria is to “isolate” individuals who undermine democracy and seek to stir rebellion among the people.
Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad.
Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed in the unrest.
The opposition and Western countries accuse security forces of being behind the killings in Syria over the past months, but the government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, saying that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.
November 16th, 2011, 8:41 am
zoo said:
Why Syria’s Kurds Will Determine the Fate of the Revolution
November 16, 2011 | 12:00 a
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The Kurds don’t have full faith in the SNC, and their concerns stem largely from the council’s seeming dependence on its host nation, Turkey, particularly the ruling Islamist Justice and Development Party headed by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. “I believe Turkey is playing a negative role in the SNC in terms of the Kurdish issue,” Dr. Anwar Yussfu, Britain’s representative of the Kurdish Democratic Party in Syria, told me via email. “Erdogan knows that any constitutional recognition of the Kurds in Syria would mean the same, if not more, should be happening in Turkey next.” Still other Kurds fear that Erdogan’s close relationship to the Muslim Brotherhood means that the SNC is being jerry-rigged to give Syrian Islamists a larger role in the opposition than their on-the-ground constituency merits
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Later this month, the Kurdish National Council, which presents itself as an alternative, strictly Kurdish-Syrian opposition group, will convene in Erbil, in the Kurdish Autonomous Region of Iraq, to decide whether it should suspend participation in the SNC. The Syrian opposition can scarcely afford to let this happen.
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http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/97493/syria-kurds-national-council
November 16th, 2011, 8:41 am
zoo said:
Why did the Arab League tyrants’ club finally turn on Syria?
By Shashank Joshi
8:53PM GMT 15 Nov 2011
“Moreover, the League’s decisions are being driven by a curious duo: the tiny but wildly wealthy state of Qatar (with a native population smaller than that of Derby) and the regional superpower of Saudi Arabia, keen to pull Syria away from Iran’s orbit.
It is remarkable that so many stagnating police states are coming out against the murder of protesters, even if their outrage is neither sincere nor consistent.
{…}
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8892093/Why-did-the-Arab-League-tyrants-club-finally-turn-on-Syria.html
November 16th, 2011, 8:46 am
Mina said:
Fisk
“Predictions of Syrian leader’s imminent demise are hopelessly optimistic”
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-assad-will-only-go-if-his-own-tanks-turn-against-him-6262679.html
November 16th, 2011, 8:48 am
zoo said:
The Arab League awakening
rami khouri
DOHA— Special to Globe and Mail Update
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The Arab League is now making decisions whose consequences are ricocheting around the region and the world like heated corn kernels in a popcorn machine. Consequently, Israel, Iran, Turkey and the U.S. are all responding to Arab initiatives, rather than ordering the Arabs around, as they had done for so many decades. The Arab Awakening continues.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/the-arab-league-awakening/article2237340/
November 16th, 2011, 8:50 am
ann said:
*** MORE SYRIAN OPPOSITION GROUPS ***
Former Syrian regime insiders expect Assad’s fall – Nov 16, 2011
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Former-Syrian-regime-insiders-expect-Assads-fall/articleshow/10756149.cms
PARIS: Two exiled former Syrian regime insiders have emerged to form opposition groups, as belief in Bashar al-Assad’s rule weakens even among members of his Alawite minority and ruling Baath Party.
Experts say the return to the scene of 79-year-old former vice president Abdel Halim Khaddam and of Assad’s uncle 74-year-old Rifaat al-Assad shows that the Syrian elite increasingly expects the strongman to fall.
But they also warn that in joining the fray, these elderly and divisive figures could further fragment and undermine the Syrian opposition.
“They have deep knowledge of the system. They know something has changed and that it’s over. They are trying to position themselves for a place in a future Syria,” said Ziad Majed, of the American University in Paris.
Last week the rival veterans became the latest Syrian figures to launch political movements in Paris, Khaddam the “National Council to Support the Syrian Revolution”, and Rifaat the “National Democratic Council”.
Khaddam demanded international military action in Syria modelled on NATO’s support for this year’s uprising in Libya, while Rifaat wants Arab or world powers to negotiate Assad’s safe replacement “by a member of his family.”
Both men are tainted by the association with the regime of Assad’s late father strongman Hafez al-Assad, and their movements are not seen as truly representative of the eight-month old revolt on the streets of Syria.
But their decision to speak out could mark a turning point, coming as the Arab League votes to suspend Syria, King Abdullah of neighbouring Jordan calls on Assad to stand down and opposition forces step up armed attacks.
“Rifaat al-Assad unsettles the Alawite community in power and Bashar al-Assad’s family,” said Joseph Bahout, a researcher at the Institute of Political Studies in Paris.
But exiled leaders — who once held the highest posts in Hafez al-Assad’s governments — have considerable financial means and networks of contacts in their homeland and Rifaat al-Assad tried to lead a coup in 1983.
“Some Western intelligence agencies calculate that Rifaat could be a vector for an uprising in key military units,” Bahout said.
Khaddam was a long term ally of Hafez al-Assad, serving as his foreign minister, deputy prime minister and vice president, and was a leading figure in the ruling Baath Party, one of the pillars of the regime, until 2005.
Rifaat al-Assad was Hafez’ younger brother and commanded his feared internal security forces. He is accused of overseeing the 1982 massacre of between 10,000 and 25,000 civilians in the town of Hama.
As former regime apparatchiks, both men have little credibility with the larger opposition movements that are attempting to direct the revolution.
“These people are largely discredited in Syria. They are burdened with very weighty pasts. The opposition sees them as millstones around its neck,” said Karim Emile Bitar of the Institute of International and Strategic Relations.
Bahout warned the new parties could create new rifts in the opposition, and the return of Khaddam and Rifaat could be exploited by Assad “who could say that the people who are against him have no credibility.”
November 16th, 2011, 8:51 am
Revlon said:
The Higher Council for the Command of the Syrian Revolution (HC-CSR) issued a statement denouncing the Iraqi government blatant participation in regime’s violence against civilians by sending 100 bus-loads of fighters into Syria.
The convoy arrived at the Iraqi-Syrian Boarder escorted with Iraqi armed forces, and entered Syria without passing through security checkpoints.
The HC-CSR regard such act by Iraq as an act of war on the Syrian people, and that it indicates that the Syrian regime hasn invited regional forces ino an internal conflict.
The HC-CSR invites the AL to investigate the issue and act accordingly.
Damascus
16/11/2011
http://www.facebook.com/TheSyrianNationalCouncil#!/photo.php?fbid=184625844959748&set=a.174169679338698.46174.174167209338945&type=1&theater
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November 16th, 2011, 8:52 am
Mina said:
Qatar funding Islamists
Al Jazeera got orders to push for the agenda against Syria last april
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/world/middleeast/qatar-presses-decisive-shift-in-arab-politics.html?_r=1&ref=middleeast
November 16th, 2011, 8:56 am
Akbar Palace said:
Spann’s NewZ Network
‘US insisting on Israeli-friendly Syria’ – Wed Nov 16, 2011
Ann,
Just FYI (ref. post #117), the Iranian regime does not speak for the US government. If you want US government policy, go to US government websites, not Iranian website or news sources. The US has good relations with many countries that have no diplomatic relations with Israel, and the US has never “insisted” that they DO have diplomatic relations with Israel.
http://www.enotes.com/topic/Foreign_relations_of_Israel#No_recognition_or_diplomatic_relations
November 16th, 2011, 9:01 am
irritated said:
#123 Revlon
“The HC-CSR regard such act by Iraq as an act of war on the Syrian people, and that it indicates that the Syrian regime hasn invited regional forces ino an internal conflict.
The HC-CSR invites the AL to investigate the issue and act accordingly.”
Are you serious? Syria is a sovereign country, it has no account to give to anyone. Did anyone objected when Syria received millions of Iraqi refugees when Saudi Arabia was closing its border?
An any case Syria is no longer part of the AL, so the HC-CSR-FSA-SNC-LCC-TMC knows what to do with their request.
November 16th, 2011, 9:15 am
Revlon said:
Epi-strategic surprises!!!!
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Military strategist and media hero of Syrian regime,Taleb Ibrahim advises Global powers not to even think of intervening in Syria because:
– Syria shall be able to enforse a no-fly zone in the eastern mediterranian. How? He was asked! His answer was: Epi-strategic surprises!!!!
– The little brother of Syria, Hizballah defeated the Israeli army in 2006. So just immagine what the big brother could do!
– Our little brother threatened Israel of sea blockade on the Eastern mediterranian. We shall carry out that threat ourselves!
– Aircraft carriers are like a basket filled with eggs!
This is a sample of the naiivity and misinformation that Regime media spreads around.
November 16th, 2011, 9:16 am
zoo said:
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http://www.tajerna.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9068%3A2011-11-15-08-52-35&catid=44%3A2010-06-22-03-27-21&Itemid=110#.TsJGC6OFP0B.facebook
November 16th, 2011, 9:19 am
ann said:
“”125. Akbar Palace said:
Spann’s NewZ Network
‘US insisting on Israeli-friendly Syria’ – Wed Nov 16, 2011″”
Iran did not invade us on 9/11. We were invaded by al qaeda islamist terrorists. Are you making a stand for those islamist terrorists?
November 16th, 2011, 9:26 am
irritated said:
#122. ann
“*** MORE SYRIAN OPPOSITION GROUPS ***”
They should all merge into the SLC: The Syrian Leaches Council
November 16th, 2011, 9:28 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
I very much hope that the Kurds will seize the opportunity, and establish an autonomy in N.E. Syria, and maybe even unite with the Iraqi Kurdistan. They deserve it. They suffered too much of Arab brutality.
The Kurdish people is the real victim of Sykes–Picot. Not the fake “palestinians”.
.
November 16th, 2011, 9:36 am
ann said:
Removal of Assad will be devastating for Israel: Gilad
November 16, 2011
http://www.yalibnan.com/2011/11/16/removal-of-assad-will-be-devastating-for-israel-gilad/
The head of Israel’s defense ministry’s diplomatic-security bureau warned of a possible “Islamic empire” if Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad were to be ousted. Amos Gilad said that the removal of the Syrian leader would lead to a “devastating crisis for Israel.”
His comments come as violence in Syria reached new heights this week, with over 70 people being killed in one day alone. The Arab League has suspended Damascus over the violence, which the United Nations estimates to have left over 3,500 people dead, while other rights groups say the number is much higher.
If Assad is ousted by the popular revolt, Gilad said that the Middle East would be facing an Islamic empire led by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Jordan and Syria.
His fearmongering continued, when he said that wars could arise and Israel would be threatened by “wars with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Syria and Jordan if the Syrian Revolution succeeds in overthrowing al-Assad’s regime.”
He argued that the Brotherhood, one of Egypt’s largest political organizations, with branches in Jordan and Syria, “aims to eliminate Israel and build an Islamic empire controlling” the entire region and destroy Israel.
“Israel feels the dangers coming from Egypt, so it decided to develop relations with Turkey so it will not have to fight Muslims, which would certainly cause the end of Israel,” Gilad added.
November 16th, 2011, 9:40 am
zoo said:
#131 Amir in Tel aviv
What about the Kurds in Turkey, same wish?
November 16th, 2011, 9:41 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
ZOO,
The Kurds in turkey AND in Iran. Same wish. Absolutely.
.
November 16th, 2011, 9:44 am
Revlon said:
Additional information is surfacing that shed light on Jr’s plan to decieve the AL and why they insisted on changing clause of “withdrawing the army” to “withdrawing of all armed manifestations”.
The armed forces shall not be withdrawn; they shall stay where they are.
They will switch to anti-riot police uniforms.
They shall be armed with easily concealed Uzi/Uzi-like machine gun, instead of the more visible Klashnikov!!!
Ibrahim Ahmad
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November 16th, 2011, 9:45 am
bronco said:
132. ann said:
“Removal of Assad will be devastating for Israel: Gilad”
In the eventual (and probable) success of the Moslem Brotherhood in Egypt on the 23th november elections, panic about the safety of Israel will grow and there will be a change in the US policies in Syria.
The switch from open pro-western dictatorships to covert anti-Israel democracies is slowly becoming be reality.
November 16th, 2011, 9:47 am
Akbar Palace said:
Spann’s 9-11 Concern Revealed
Iran did not invade us on 9/11. We were invaded by al qaeda islamist terrorists.
Ann,
What does that have to do with posting a false Iranian claim that ‘US insisting on Israeli-friendly Syria’?
BTW, no one has said Iran invaded the US on 9/11. However, the US government has determined that Iran aids and abets Islamic terrorist around the world like Hamas and Hezbollah. In many cases, Iran has been found to directly mastermine terrorists attacks, just like the one that was uncovered last month:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-iran-tied-terror-plot-washington-dc-disrupted/story?id=14711933
November 16th, 2011, 9:49 am
Revlon said:
List of 6 martyrs who fell today in Homs, at the hands of Jr mobsters.
AlFatiha upon their souls
May God bless their families with solace and empower them with patience.
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November 16th, 2011, 9:51 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
I don’t share Amos Gidad’s panic regarding Islamist Syria.
I’m not at all afraid of the Egyptian-Syrian-Jordanian MB, the Tunisian Anahadda and the other Islamist Arab movements.
Let them compete for power, and then let them rule. Let’s judge them by their achievements. This Arab political Islam phenomenon is fast self consuming. Sooner, the Arabs will realize that political Islam is the problem, not the solution.
.
November 16th, 2011, 10:14 am
jad said:
Today as yesterday more military men killed than civilians killed by the security and as usual with this new trend they count the defectors as civilians:
8 military men
3 defectors in Edleb
9 civilians?, 7 in Homs 4 of them killed today by snipers (which is a split work between the security forces and the terrorists) and 3 were injured days before, no explanation of who or how or why they were killed.
1 in Daraa it states by the security checkpoint (no explanation of why he was killed)
30 students where detained
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November 16th, 2011, 10:21 am
jad said:
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November 16th, 2011, 10:24 am
jad said:
Iran denied the news of meeting with the opposition:
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November 16th, 2011, 10:30 am
Uzair8 said:
Al Arabiya opinion piece:
“The West wages jihad but forbids us from doing so”
Wednesday, 16 November 2011
How can the West wage jihad but prohibit us Muslims from doing so?
Here I am talking about the fact that the West has produced nuclear missiles yet prevents us from doing so; occupies our lands whilst protecting its own territory, and colonizes our seas and oceans whilst defending its own seas and oceans. Its factories produce rockets, bombs, missiles, frigates, rocket-launchers and aircraft carriers, whilst our factories only produce bubble-gum and Pepsi. The West warns us against acts of aggression and acquiring weapons, whilst it launches attacks and stockpiles arms day and night.
This is because the West is intelligent and knows that power is the source of all stature and grandeur. Allah the Almighty said: “Prepare against them what force you can”. The world respects no one but the strong. As for diplomacy, romanticism, and political sentimentality, this is mere superficial talk to distract and deceive foes, because war is an act of deception.
Read more:
http://english.alarabiya.net/views/2011/11/16/177451.html
November 16th, 2011, 10:44 am
jad said:
Really! after all the lies in the media this little news won’t make any difference…unless it’s intentional:
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November 16th, 2011, 10:45 am
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Syria plot is clear as Qatar sky
By George Galloway
Rio, of course, is where we’re headed for the next World Cup (well maybe not us, but you know what I mean) before the tourney heads for the 120-degree hole of Qatar, which bought the championships wrapped up in brown paper.
Qatar, in fact, is buying everything, while their dictatorship lasts, including, it seems, the Arab League, which agreed to their demand for the suspension of Syria at the weekend to be followed this week by sanctions.
You don’t have to like the Syrian regime to smell a rat here.
Not one of the Arab League potentates who suspended Syria has an elected leader, virtually all have ghastly human rights records. Every one of them, faced with an armed revolutionary insurrection in their own countries, would be gunning down the revolutionaries (the only difference being that they would be using guns sold to them by us).
The pot calling the kettle black doesn’t describe this farce.
The Arab League is a bit like the Scottish second division – pathetic. When the Palestinians were being slaughtered in Gaza, they couldn’t agree to have a meeting about it.
When the Turkish prime minister Erdogan walked off the platform at Davos after denouncing Israeli president Peres as a “child-killer”, the Arab League leader stood up to applaud him, then sat down again to continue the show.
Given the impossibility of obtaining UN approval for an attack on Syria or Iran, it’s clear as the Qatar sky what’s going on.
Arm and finance a group of revolutionaries and get them to start an uprising. When the state cracks down, get the opposition to call for western intervention. If the UN won’t authorise it, the corrupt dictators in the neighbourhood will do for a fig leaf.
It’s bombs away again, folks. We can’t keep our pensioners warm in the winter. But we can sure set fire to other people’s countries.
http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/georgegalloway/2011/11/syria-plot-is-clear-as-qatar-sky.html
November 16th, 2011, 10:58 am
mjabali said:
Events on the ground are depicting a GRIM future: a regional war on the horizon because there are not enough cool heads that does not like violence.
Also, day after day it looks like this is a Sunni vs Shia/Alawis fight and it will bring the whole area to HELL and of course the MINORITIES are the ones to lose AGAIN.
Where the hell is the Global stance that will stop this madness and tell these idiots that we live in the 12st C. and that we need LAW, Human Rights and liberty…
November 16th, 2011, 11:06 am
newfolder said:
see how Bashar’s dogs beat the head of Kafr Nibol municipality
November 16th, 2011, 11:39 am
Majed97 said:
The AL’s recent action against Syria has already exposed it for what it is, a Western tool to control the damage resulting from the Arab Spring. The AL’s mission now is to put an end to any hope of true spring in the Middle East. The west is attempting to turn the Arab Spring into an opportunity to restructure their control of the region by reshuffling their agents, and liquidating their agitators. I think this will backfire, as the Arab streets are slowly wising up to what’s happening and will soon rebel against the AL itself. I wouldn’t be surprise at all to see large demonstrations across the major Arab cities, as soon as today, against the AL’s action against Syria…
November 16th, 2011, 11:45 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Revlon
Thanks for the link in comment # 127
Taleb Ibrahim remind me of M.Saeed Al Sahhaf ,information minister of Saddam
November 16th, 2011, 11:46 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Al is too late ,they should have kicked Bashar long time ago, bashar is stubborn and stupid dictator, he is lier too, he should never been trusted. the pro regime should be treated just like the guy newfolder showed in comment #147.
We need no fly zone,this is minimum.AL must support that.
Nouri Al Malki must go also, Muqtada Al Sadr is sending his men to kill syrian he deserve what will happen to him.
November 16th, 2011, 12:02 pm
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
Joshua above links to a wooly, rubbishy article that tries to argue that the Syrian economy is already troubled and the putatively troubled economy can bring down the regime. The article contains a statement that Joshua has said himself in the past: “The potential collapse of the Syrian pound may….[blah blah].” My comment is that it is impossible to have a collapse of the Syrian Pound so long as (a) the Syrians keep on accepting it and using it as real money in Syria, and (b) there is no hyperinflation in Syria. The current situation in Syria contains nothing that can lead to an upset of either of those two things. A small devaluation is a completely different thing from a collapse. Today the Central Bank of Syria arguably should somewhat devalue the Syrian Pound, an action which would both decrease imports and increase exports, which would bring Syria’s small negative balance-of-trade back into a positive balance-of-trade, which would in turn make the exchanage rate of the Syrian Pound more sustainably easily managed. The Central Bank is already in the midst of doing that, apparently, or nearly finished if the real exchange rate today is US$1 = SYP 55 (the officially quoted exchange rate is still US$1 = 50) in round numbers.
November 16th, 2011, 12:02 pm
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
Joshua Landis reports above: “Aleppo authorities also warn that extended electric cuts are coming due to lack of power” and he gives as his source http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=140028 and that article shows that Joshua’s statement is legally defensible but spurious and misleading. Relatedly see http://www.sana.sy/ara/2/2011/11/13/381114.htm . This is an example that you shouldn’t trust Joshua to tell the truth and the whole truth, not even when he knows the truth.
November 16th, 2011, 12:03 pm
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
Joshua says above: “A troubling aspect of the Syrian conflict is that the region’s minorities are remaining faithful to Assad and Syria’s Alawi-led regime…. Assad’s base support among minorities will not crumble easily.”
That is bogus and spurious talk. I and others have demonstrated that the Sunnis are remaining faithful to the Assad regime. Joshua has never — never! — presented a shred of evidence that the Sunnis are not remaining faithful to the regime in big numbers. The only evidence of unfaithfulness is the street protests, whose turnout numbers have been small relative to the whole Sunni population. I remember Joshua admitted earlier that the middle class Sunnis are remaining faithful to the regime (except that he called them the “Sunni elites”). I remember he admitted that Aleppo and Damascus are remaining faithful to the regime and are overwhelmingly Sunni in religion. I believe I remember he admitted that the bulk of the Sunni clerics support a peaceful process of reform, which you know can only be under the auspices of the regime. The big big fundamental about the Syrian situation is that dissidents do not have a critical mass of support among the Sunnis. And the regime does. Sunnis are 75% of the total population. Nothing important can happen in Syrian politics when a majority of Sunnis object to it. The majority of Sunnis do object to the uprising. They want the reforms but they don’t want the uprising. The idea that there’s a “silent majority” of Sunnis who still don’t know what they want is wishful thinking by the dissidents. See numerous posts by me here in recent earlier threads, including in the immediately previous thread. But, of course, Joshua above doesn’t explicitly say the falsehood that the Sunnis are not faithful to the regime. He doesn’t explicitly say the falsehood that the main plank of the regime’s base is not Sunni. He insinuates it. In the same sentence he’s additional phoney and spurious verbiage in his phrase “Syria’s Alawi-led regime”:
November 16th, 2011, 12:05 pm
jad said:
Well deserved pies in the face of BH. Levy the french war ‘philosopher’
BHL se prend une tarte a la gueule!!! ouufff ca fait du bien !
http://youtu.be/jlG-GVNIZ94
November 16th, 2011, 12:14 pm
jad said:
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November 16th, 2011, 12:16 pm
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November 16th, 2011, 12:36 pm
son of damascus said:
@ Ya Mara Ghalba
Do you work for SANA? Why should we trust what Sana has to say when as you said over and over again that their numbers in pro betho demos are always exaggerated? Have they ever run a retraction to apologize for misleading the public with their exaggerations? If they exaggerated in the number of people at the pro rallies, what else are they exaggerating about? Most importantly who is writing the SANA articles, what is the journalist name, why does the journalist not sign his/her name at the end of their article?
November 16th, 2011, 12:40 pm
bronco said:
Jad #155
If Arab countries vote for having the SNC representing Syria in the AL, it means that Syria is not frozen temporarily but permanently. The AL would need an unanimous vote to do that.
The SNC is boasting like they do at every meeting in hope of being recognized. Yet, with the arm twisting going on from the GCC and the blackmail of cutting the funds to poor countries, it is quite possible that the AL will show how easy it can be bought by the khalijis that everyone despise.
If it happen, it will be remembered as a day of shame for the arab world.
November 16th, 2011, 12:43 pm
jad said:
Dear Bronco,
“If it happen, it will be remembered as a day of shame for the arab world.”
The Arab world have too many shameful days to count, especially when the goat princes* are in charge, why this one day be any different.
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*Gufran I’m sorry to use your own words without permission, will pay you from my paid writing time when I get the check.
November 16th, 2011, 12:55 pm
jad said:
The mighty peaceful ‘revolution’ FB page is calling to get the names and addresses for those student who attacked their colleagues in Alkalamon university to give this information to the terrorist group called fsa to become with their families THE next target on their list, in short a licence to kill them.
I wonder if we will see these people in one of the makeup dude defection clips before they kill them as usual:
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Wonder why there is Mazoot shortage in Syria? Wonder no more, on top of the West ‘calculated’ sanctions against the people and on top of the greedy criminal smugglers, the peaceful ‘angles’ are destroying and stealing every liter they have their ‘wings’ on
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http://youtu.be/yjXmR68sxqg
November 16th, 2011, 1:02 pm
Uzair8 said:
Is it a little quieter than normal on here today?
Perhaps Syrians are busy celebrating the “41st anniversary of the glorious Correctionist Movement”.
November 16th, 2011, 1:05 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: UZAIRB
RE: “…Is it a little quieter than normal on here today?…”
Yes, too quiet
http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/04/arab-news-fox-news-style.html
November 16th, 2011, 1:11 pm
Tara said:
Today would be remembered as a historical day in modern Arab history If the AL delegitimizes Assad’s regime. The day should be hailed as an Arab nationalism awakening when governments across the ME stand true instead of mocking the feelings and aspiration of their own citizens. I am looking forward to have a ME where presidents and governments get impeached over sex or corruption charges, let alone murder, torture and illegal arrest.
November 16th, 2011, 1:11 pm
jad said:
Twitter:
“????? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ?? ???????? ????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ?????”
November 16th, 2011, 1:21 pm
jad said:
Holland’s ambassador in Damascus raised the Syrian flag to cheer the demonstrators up from the roof top of the embassy today, I guess that he was trying to be nice to them, he is known to be very active in the cultural activities in Syria:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=221764797891920
#syria
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http://www.facebook.com/shaam.syria
November 16th, 2011, 1:38 pm
5 dancing shlomos said:
will injustice and inequality bring down the very corrupt, fascist, amurderkan regime?
Did Feds Coordinate Occupy Wall Street Crackdowns?
From Oakland to NYC, Is the DHS Behind the Crackdown?
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/11/15/did-feds-coordinate-occupy-wall-street-crackdowns/
November 16th, 2011, 1:45 pm
5 dancing shlomos said:
Police State Tactics: Signs Point to a Coordinated National Program to Try and Unoccupy Wall Street and Other Cities
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/police-state-tactics-signs-point-to-a-coordinated-national-program-to-try-and-unoccupy-wall-street-and-other-cities/
November 16th, 2011, 1:49 pm
Humanist said:
“The people want the Assad family,” ….
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=142393958&sc=tw&cc=share
November 16th, 2011, 1:54 pm
Khalid Tlass said:
565. Tara said:
“Khaled
I think you are trying to project your dogma as a salafist on the Syrian revolution forgetting that salafists virtually do not exist among the rank of the demonstrators. The FSA goal is to defend the demonstrators and the innocent civilians. They were not engaged in offensive operations against the army. If you think otherwise, you have to prove it and please don’t quote SANA or Aldoonya.”
I am extremely hurt by this statement TARA. Yes, I am a Salafi and that is my religious belief. I fully support offensive atrmed actions against loyalist Army, what I said was FSA must restrain themslevs these 4 days and again go on the offensive later.
Offensive actions are necessary to protect civilians sometimes, unfortunately both GHUFRAN and TARA dont realize that.
And GHUFRAN, don’t be rejoicing too soon smarty. The reason I have appeared a bit more moderate, restrained and polite these last 3 days is becoz I feel WE are in a strong position now and we have the upper hand. I am no longer frustrated and angry, which is why my posts have become more moderate and polite. I am very forgiving and kind when I feel happy. I am very happy with AL’s strictness with Junior, hence I decided to be a little less aggressive, its strange that Ghufran and Tara comprehended it as a change of sides or a change of heart.
And btw “Salafi” is not a dirty word, its said that many ppl use it like that. Amd we are “Salafi” not “SalafIST”, we are not an “ism”, we are the muqallideen of the Salafus Saleheen.
November 16th, 2011, 2:22 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: KHALID TLASS
RE: “…The reason I have appeared a bit more moderate, restrained and polite these last 3 days is becoz I feel WE are in a strong position now…”
I thought the reason you’re being so restrained and polite is they threatened to boot your salafi butt off SC…
http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/04/arab-news-fox-news-style.html
November 16th, 2011, 2:41 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Tlass
In your restrained forgiving and polite mode, you sound like a Yeshiva boy.
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November 16th, 2011, 3:03 pm
Tara said:
Khaled
You submitted the same post three times already. There is no need for this. My Islam is different than yours. My Sunni Islam values people for being people and does not look for anything else. Religion is a private matter defined by how you interpret God and that is that. I do not appreciate your hatred to shiaa or christians and I also do not agree with your call for leveling Qurdaha. I don’t think you have anything in common with the revolutionists or with me. I,Tara the revolutionist, even happen to have a deep affection to a christian friend of mine who is even a regime supporter. I am sorry to be blunt.
November 16th, 2011, 3:03 pm
jad said:
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November 16th, 2011, 3:04 pm
jad said:
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Couple more interesting stories:
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November 16th, 2011, 3:08 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
From one date to another date. 3 more days,immidiate halt to military action,the regim will not follow.20 more dead today.
November 16th, 2011, 3:12 pm
jad said:
Huh!? What went wrong with all the threats? Didn’t Syria accept those 500 inspections even before the last meeting? so confusing!
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November 16th, 2011, 3:17 pm
jad said:
Good news:
Dr. Rafah Nashed is free
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November 16th, 2011, 3:22 pm
jad said:
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November 16th, 2011, 3:28 pm
Khalid Tlass said:
So, Tara, why have you suddenly become so critical about me ?
November 16th, 2011, 3:40 pm
Tara said:
16 November 2011 Last updated at 15:43 ET
Syria: Arab League gives deadline to end ‘repression’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15762260
The Arab League has given Syria three days to “stop the bloody repression” of protesters and allow in teams of observers.
Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim al-Thani said Syria faced sanctions if it did not co-operate.
At a meeting of the Arab League in Morocco, he said diplomatic efforts were “close to the end of the road”.
As the meeting took place, angry crowds in Damascus attacked the embassies of Morocco and the United Arab Emirates.
Earlier, in another sign of Syria’s increasing international isolation, France said it was withdrawing its ambassador.
Foreign Minister Alain Juppe told parliament: “There has been renewed violence in Syria, which has led me to close our consular offices in Aleppo and in Latakia as well as our cultural institutes and to recall our ambassador to Paris.”
As diplomatic pressure increases on Damascus, the situation on the ground is deteriorating as well.
Last night, soldiers who defected from the Syrian army mounted an attack on an intelligence base north of Damascus. It was the most significant attack so far by defectors and was remarkable for being against such a high-profile target so close to the capital.
More and more clashes are being reported between the regular army and opponents who now call themselves the Free Syrian Army.
That raises the spectre of this turning into a full-scale civil war.
But Syria has shown little sign of compromise. At today’s meeting here in Morocco, Arab ministers are expected to confirm Syria’s suspension from the Arab League and possibly impose new measures.
Syria’s chair at the meeting is empty after Damascus angrily decided to boycott the meeting. Attitudes are hardening on all sides.
Sheikh Hamad, asked if the Arab League proposal was a last-ditch attempt at diplomacy, told a news conference in Morocco: “We do not want to talk about a last-ditch attempt because I do not want this to sound like a warning.
“What I can say is that we are close to the end of the road as far as the (Arab League’s) efforts on this front are concerned.”
The statement came hours after reports that rebel Syrian troops had attacked a major military base near Damascus.
Turkey, although not a member of the Arab League, sent its Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu to a Turkish-Arab co-operation forum on the fringes of the league’s meeting in Rabat.
Turkey, which shares a long border with Syria, has been increasingly critical of President Bashar al-Assad’s repression of anti-government protests.
In a joint statement, they demanded “urgent measures… to ensure the protection of civilians” and declared they were against “all foreign intervention in Syria”.
Last weekend the Arab League voted to suspend Syria’s membership after it failed to honour the terms of an Arab League peace plan.
The plan involved Syria withdrawing tanks from restive cities, stopping attacks on protesters and engaging in dialogue with the opposition within two weeks.
But since then violence across Syria has escalated.
Soldiers killed
Syrian activists say defected soldiers known as the Free Syrian Army launched a pre-dawn attack on the notorious Air Force Intelligence building in the Damascus suburb of Harasta.
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Unconfirmed reports said six government soldiers were killed.
Correspondents says such an attack would be the highest profile operation so far by renegade troops.
The Commander of the Free Syrian Army, Ryad al-Asa’ad, who is based in Turkey, told the BBC Arabic Service the international community had let them down in their fight against the regime.
“At the moment no country in the world has helped,” he said.
“All of them, every country has refused. Even Turkey has never offered us even one bullet and has even completely banned operations on the border, or on the road to the border. On the other hand, we are from inside Syria, we work inside Syria and the weapons are from Syria.”
He said defections were increasing within the Syrian army.
“Thank God, there is a big number [of defectors] the number increases daily. Now, over the past 10 days, defections have been increasing in a very very big way, even officers, a great number are defecting.”
Meanwhile, anti-government activists reported further bloodshed across Syria on Wednesday.
The Local Co-ordination Committees (LCC) said 11 people had been killed in Homs, seven in Idlib and one each in Daraa and the suburbs of Damascus.
The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on its Facebook page that three defectors and a civilian were shot dead in Keferzita, Hama province.
Some 376 people had been killed since the announcement of the Arab League initiative on 2 November, the LCC said.
The UN says more than 3,500 people have died since protests started in March. Syrian authorities blame the violence on armed gangs and militants.
The Syrian government has severely restricted access for foreign journalists, and reports are difficult to verify.
November 16th, 2011, 3:57 pm
Tara said:
Khaled
I am sorry. I am being honest. I just do not agree with hatred whether it comes from Islamophobes, or so called Islamic. You know very well that is how the Sunnis are raised in Syria.
November 16th, 2011, 4:03 pm
Tara said:
The AL’s decision is very disappointing. Hamad said 3 more days then economic sanctions. Is that all? Are we dealing with another paper tiger?
November 16th, 2011, 4:12 pm
ss said:
171. Tara said: Khaled “I also do not agree with your call for leveling Qurdaha. I don’t think you have anything in common with the revolutionists or with me. I,Tara the revolutionist, even happen to have a deep affection to a christian friend of mine who is even a regime supporter. I am sorry to be blunt”
You represent yourself then, because the majority behind this so called fake revolution is people like Khaled Tlass; they had an extremely radical view, they want to wipe out all sectors, and he admitted earlier of being Salafi. Mr. Galion is sort of cleaner face and mind and he represents the dirty majority of MB in his council.
You are trying your best 24/7 to present this revolution as a bride but unforrtunately this bride has been using SATOOR to behead and cut people into peices.
November 16th, 2011, 4:18 pm
Khalid Tlass said:
We do not depend on the AL or Turkey or NATO, we should depend on our own guns, at this moment, we are pissing on their dead bodies in Dara’a. Congratulations to the FSA, pursue them relentlessly.
November 16th, 2011, 4:23 pm
Khalid Tlass said:
180. TARA said :
“You know very well that is how the Sunnis are raised in Syria”.
And that is exactly why Sunnis are finding themselves in the position they are in today.
November 16th, 2011, 4:28 pm
Darryl said:
90. KHALID TLASS said:
“I am no longer frustrated and angry, which is why my posts have become more moderate and polite. I am very forgiving and kind when I am strong.”
You see My friend Khalid, I was right about you. You are a very kind pussy cat in a paper tiger suit, Leopards can’t change their spots. The other reason your post improved for a bit was due to all that high energy in the rich tasting Braford beef you ate for Eid Al-AdHa Al-Mubarak.
Out of curiosity, how long is your beard? Is it the right length for admission to heaven?
November 16th, 2011, 5:06 pm
bronco said:
MajedAlkaldoon
Any news in the recognition of the SNC by the AL that you predicted?
November 16th, 2011, 5:25 pm
bronco said:
181. Tara
Disappointed? It seems my predictions are closer than yours…
Thank God, the AL is still not a lost case and Syria could still be saved from civil war and the likes of Khaled Tlass.
November 16th, 2011, 5:30 pm
zoo said:
Syria: Communication and Satellite Devices were seized with the Terrorist Groups
(Dp-news – Sana) DAMASCUS- The Syrian authorities confiscated a highly advanced communication means and satellite devices. The devices were found with the armed terrorist groups and members that are working with the seditious and instigative TV channels that are targeting Syria.
The first group of the confiscated devices included handheld two-way simplex system communication devices operating in the very high and ultrahigh frequency (VHF/UHF) ranges.
The devices were confiscated in a number of tension areas as they were used to ensure communication between the terrorists and criminals and organize the course of their movement to carry out attacks against the law enforcement personnel.
The devices operate by wireless scanning of the frequency ranges to pick up the calls of the security and law enforcement forces and monitor the movement of their personnel.
The second group included Thuraya satellite mobile phone sets which were used for satellite communication among the terrorists and those who work with them and between them and the misleading satellite TV channels and the external sides.
SIM cards for the Thuraya phones, charged through Arab and foreign providers, were used by the terrorists to avoid the monitoring of the authorities.
With the development of the crisis, various advanced generations of these devices appeared, such as Thuraya mobile phones powered by AB internet, which allows the possibility of connecting these devices to the internet via computer and transmitting text documents, photos and videos via satellite at high speed.
These devices were illegally infiltrated across the border from Arab countries and foreign developed countries and parties, on top the U.S.A. and Israel.
The information found in these devices included the phone numbers of all the misleading satellite channels- al-Jazeera, al-Arabiya, BBC, France 24 and others- and the phone numbers of Arab and foreign personalities involved in the events, in addition to tendentious and biased messages stored in advance.
The third group included Iridium satellite devices operated by the U.S. military satellite communication network made up of 66 satellites covering the globe which provides audio and data transfer services of different advanced generations. The devices were used by the terrorists and agents during the events.
The group also comprised Iridium satellite phone accessories, which are antenna placed on the vehicle’s surface and connected to a phone inside the car via a cable since most satellite communication devices need Line-of -Sight between the phone and the satellite.
The fourth group included the global Inmarsat mobile communication satellite systems which operate by directing concentrated radiations towards certain points on the earth to provide voice and digital calls, videos and internet services with high accuracy and speed.
Such systems are used by the UN organizations and the embassies in Syria. There has been an increase in the number of these systems which are being imported to Qatar in unusual quantities before and during the events, which raised several question marks.
The fifth group seized a bulk which, after technical examination, was found to be a kind of an Israeli-made antenna operating on very special frequency ranges for satellite communication, which is part of an integrated satellite communication system using a network of US military satellites to provide high speed internet services to transfer data.
Unlike the previously mentioned communication systems, these systems are not commercially marketed as they require the authorization and approval of the Ministry of Defense in the manufacturing countries. The existence of these devices in Syria indicates the clear involvement of these countries, particularly that diplomats and politicians from these countries have announced intention to back the terrorists in Syria with advanced internet and communication systems.
The sixth group included radios with advanced audio players that were used by the armed terrorist groups and saboteurs to create chaos and confusion. These devices store audio clips including recorded slogans and sounds to be replayed during the gatherings near the mosques and in the crowded markets to film them as anti-government protests.
Most of these equipment and advanced devices are illegal and prohibited since they have been used without getting license from the General Telecommunications Establishment. The use of these systems and devices violate the regulating rules and legislations which guarantee that such use must not affect the security of Syria or undermine the state’s position and those responsible for possessing, importing and illegally investing them should be held accountable, as it is the case in any country in the world.
These devices can be classified, according to the circumstances Syria is going through, the places where they were seized, the sides which communicated through them and the purposes for which they were used to transfer information, fabricate events and plot to undermine the country’s position and security, as falling under the crime of espionage and treason.
The high cost of the seized satellite systems in terms of the equipment or the subscription confirms the big financial support provided to the terrorist and criminal groups and the involvement of some instigative satellite channels in providing these equipment.
Cellular coverage on the borders with neighboring countries has also been exploited by the terrorist groups to ensure cell phone calls and internet services benefiting from the coverage of neighboring countries, which reached between 30 and 50 km in a flagrant violation of agreements signed between Syria and these countries which set the limits of the overlapping coverage area between 1 and 3 km.
This violation can be put within the plan of some of these countries in supporting the terrorists in Syria during the events through raising the signal levels to maximum limits.
November 16th, 2011, 5:45 pm
jad said:
Bronco,
Don’t you think that there is some connection between Washington announcement and the AL decision not to escalate, besides, it’s only 3 days before the AL apply the sanctions, no?
November 16th, 2011, 5:47 pm
Tara said:
Bronco
Very!
Yes, your prediction is closer than mine. I am not measuring up it looks like.
Justice must be served Bronco. It hasn’t yet, but people need to make no mistake about it. With or without the AL, with or without any help, Syrians are not going to stop until Bashar is toppled and until they get their freedom and dignity. No matter at what cost.
November 16th, 2011, 5:47 pm
zoo said:
Yemen: Arab Leagues resolution on Syria illegal
16/11/2011
By Mohammed Jumeh
London, Asharq al-Awsat- Ahmad al-Sufi, Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh Media secretary has categorically rejected recalling Yemen’s ambassador to Syria.
In an interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, al-Sufi said, “We will not recall our ambassador to Syria, because the resolution was hasty and premeditated, and there was no sufficient opportunity to study it, or scope for a political settlement for the Syrian crisis. Moreover, Syria was not given the opportunity to explain its stance toward the Arab initiative and the political crisis through which it is going. This resolution is illegal, because the freezing of the membership of a country is a resolution that has to be adopted at the level of summit, and not at the level of foreign ministers.”
Regarding the reasons of Yemen’s objections to the Arab League resolution, Al-Sufi told Asharq Al-Awsat,”There is a clear bias in favour of the Syrian opposition at the expense of the Syrian Government. The Arab League has behaved as if it is a guardian of the Syrian opposition.”
The Yemeni Media secretary went on to say that, “it is impossible to put the requirements of the resolutions, which are based on exaggerating the Syrian crisis, before Syria’s status, prestige, and role in the region. If Syria does not carry out some of the requirements of the Arab initiative, supporting and standing by it at such a time still is a strategic option, not only for Yemen, but also for anyone who knows that Syria is in the heart of the Arab-Israeli conflict, which is required today to be turned into an Arab-Arab conflict.”
Al-Sufi concluded by saying, “this is the second gravest resolution adopted by the Arab League that contradicts the spirit of its charter. The first decision was about the Libyan issue, when the Arab League paved the way for NATO to launch its attack on Libya. Moreover this resolution to suspend Syria’s membership of the Arab League is in response to the whims of a tendency that not only manages the Arab League, but also manages the entire region by means of political money.”
November 16th, 2011, 5:48 pm
bronco said:
Tara,
“No matter at what cost”.
Sorry, I disagree. Some wars stopped because one was stronger than the others, some other wars stops when both realize they will be both losers. In the case of Syria, none of the opposition or the regime can win on short term. They can go on killing each others like they did in Lebanon for 15 years and destroy the country. If they have some sense, courage and they care about the Syrian more about getting the power, they must agree on a ceasefire and negotiate for the sake of the people. The AL is giving them this opportunity. It would be foolish and criminal to ignore it and seek full victory.
When Khomeini stopped the deadly war with Iraq, it was a bitter pill to take but he did it to save more lives.
By being extremist , you are condoning more death, just to reach a bitter victory, that will look more like a defeat.
November 16th, 2011, 6:02 pm
jad said:
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http://www.ahewar.org/debat/show.art.asp?aid=282583
November 16th, 2011, 6:13 pm
bronco said:
Jad
Sorry, Jad, which Washington announcement?
November 16th, 2011, 6:27 pm
ss said:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-rt-us-kuwait-protesttre7af2rl-20111116,0,3850558.story
Reuters
4:34 p.m. CST, November 16, 2011
KUWAIT (Reuters) – Dozens of Kuwaitis briefly stormed Kuwait’s parliament building late on Wednesday as hundreds more demonstrated outside, demanding that Prime Minister Sheikh Nasser al-Mohammad al-Sabah step down, local media and witnesses said.
Hopefully Qatar and Saudi would be next.
November 16th, 2011, 6:31 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
CHANGE
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November 16th, 2011, 6:33 pm
ss said:
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November 16th, 2011, 6:33 pm
Tara said:
Bronco @ 136
I was taken back by your post. It remind me with Rami Makhlouf’s interview with Anthony Shadid. I was quiet all morning because of it. I don’t think Rami’s views are something to be proud of. Please tell me I misunderstood.
“In the eventual (and probable) success of the Moslem Brotherhood in Egypt on the 23th november elections, panic about the safety of Israel will grow and there will be a change in the US policies in Syria.”
November 16th, 2011, 6:46 pm
jad said:
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November 16th, 2011, 6:53 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Bronco
I think it is too early to be proud, one week and we will find out.
However do you remember about Dialogue you talkede about, do’nt you think that your statement is wrong then?
The one who lagh last,is the one who laugh more.
November 16th, 2011, 6:54 pm
jad said:
Bronco,
One hour before the AL statement this one line came from Washington:
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SS,
Kuwait trouble is by the most radical gangs of Kuwait.
Jordan is having trouble tonight too, poor Abdo, it’s his turn now to use tanks:
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http://youtu.be/AfVw_4QppIM
November 16th, 2011, 6:58 pm
ann said:
MacKay says no plans for Syria intervention – Nov 16, 2011
Defence co-operation agreements with Israel in the works
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/11/16/pol-syria-mackay.html
Canada is watching violence in Syria but stepping in would require more thought and possibly a UN resolution, Defence Minister Peter MacKay says.
MacKay spoke about Syria hours before meeting with Israeli counterpart Ehud Barak to talk about regional security and a series of agreements on defence cooperation between Canada and Israel.
As France pulls its ambassador from Damascus, Syria’s capital, and the country’s suspension from the Arab League takes effect, MacKay says any possible military action needs “further contemplation” and possibly a UN Security Council resolution “to mirror the path that we followed with respect to Libya.”
“There’s a number of things that would have to happen. It is a much more complex situation in many ways, given the circumstances on the ground in Syria,” MacKay said Wednesday morning.
“But I can assure you in our capital and in capitals around the world, NATO countries are discussing what is happening in Syria.”
The mission in Libya was a UN-sanctioned NATO mission intended to protect civilians from attacks. That mission started in March and culminated with deposed leader Moammar Gadhafi being captured and killed in October. It has raised questions about why, with Syrian civilians facing similar danger, western countries haven’t intervened.
In the House of Commons, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said Canada has imposed sanctions on the regime’s key players and called on President Bashar al-Assad to resign.
“The campaign of violence and terror against the Syrian people must end,” he said.
“Canada stands with the Syrian people at their time of need.”
Baird also repeated a recommendation that any Canadians still in Syria leave the country while there are still commercial flights.
Defence agreements with Israel coming
The memoranda of understanding Canada and Israel are working on should be signed in the next 30 days, Barak said. The agreements encompass defence co-operation, including information and technology sharing, as well as exchange programs for Canadian and Israeli military training.
MacKay said the agreements will “further build on a strong foundation of co-operation that will bring tangible results not just to our two militaries, but to Canada and Israel more broadly.”
Barak said Israel appreciates Canada’s support on the world stage.
“We highly appreciate the relationship and friendship with Canada and we always envy you having for your neighbours being the Americans, the big ocean and the Arctic,” he said.
While the two defence ministers were there to answer questions from reporters, a civil servant from the Department of National Defence made it to the microphone to ask his own question.
Identifying himself as Christopher Aikenhead, the man said the world appreciates Israel’s efforts to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, and asked what more Israel could do to promote a nuclear-free Middle East.
A spokesman for MacKay called it an unfortunate and regrettable mistake.
“The ministers graciously addressed his question and the individual was informed of his error following the media availability. Defence department officials are looking into the matter further,” Jay Paxton said in a statement.
Barak said Iran is a challenge for the world, not just Israel, referring to a report by the International Atomic Energy Agency that found Iran had looked into how to put a nuclear warhead on a missile that could reach Israel. He said it was time, even in the minds of the board of the IAEA, to “call a spade a spade.”
“We said all along the way that we recommend to all friends around the world not to remove any option off the table and I’m glad to notice that many leaders in the world recently are just repeating this very phrase,” Barak said.
MacKay said Syria’s bloody uprising is likely to be discussed at an international security forum in Halifax Nov. 18-20.
November 16th, 2011, 7:21 pm
ss said:
201. Jad “Jordan is having trouble tonight too, poor Abdo, it’s his turn now to use tanks:
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Best news for the night.
BEST BEST NEWS OF THE NIGHT. Thank GOD.
November 16th, 2011, 7:25 pm
jad said:
Bronco,
Something fishy with all this charade of the AL today, they are obviously buying times for the next move, the fake goat princes* ‘grace’ is very suspicious.
November 16th, 2011, 7:36 pm
Majed97 said:
So, after all that barking, why did the AL blink today?? I bet it was a stormy session in Rabat today with many countries “defecting” against the GCC agenda; so they agreed on a half ass face saving measure by making a demand that Syria already agreed to a week ago!!Looks like Syria has a lot more power and friends than they would have you believe. As I’ve been saying, the AL was, is and will always be useless; just ask the Israelis.
November 16th, 2011, 7:44 pm
Tara said:
Syrians must outsmart the regime. The AL confirmed the suspension today and gave Bashar 3 days to stop the violence and to sign the agreement. If Bashar does not stop the violence completely in 3days, he loses the AL cover and sets himself up to a UNSC resolution. Having seen what the AL is capable of doing, I believe Bashar is going to take it seriously this time. It is hard to imagine that he is so much retarded to miss his last life line. He may indeed pull the military to hide his real face. After all the blue suits we heard about are probably ready for the shabeeha and the loyal 4’th brigade to disguise as anti- riot police.
Syrian revolution 2011 should call for massive demonstration. Horan, Homs, Hama, Damascus suburbs, and Midan should demonstrate in their entirety. This will be limited by the fact that 50,000 potentials demonstrators and local leaders are imprisoned. Women should take an active role and get out and demonstrate. The coward silent majority in Damscus and Aleppo would probably remained coward. I doubt they can be mobilized if they haven’t so far.
Is the FSA going to hold its operation during the next 3 days? If FSA attack an army’ or a security forces’ building, are they going to respond? If the security forces fire back on the FSA, how is that going to be perceived by the AL? Would that violate complete “cessation” of violence?
November 16th, 2011, 7:49 pm
louai said:
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http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/25898
November 16th, 2011, 8:00 pm
son of damascus said:
@ Tara
Post 206
I do believe the regime will attempt to conform to the AL initiative, but the fact remains the regime only has one play in their playbook. Any attempt they may have will crumble the second they feel threatened, wether by the FSA or the demonstrators.
As for the shabeeha dressed as riot police, a hyaena will remain a hyaena even if you painted spots on it.
November 16th, 2011, 8:01 pm
ann said:
‘Syrian army planting mines along Jordanian border’ – 11/16/2011
Assad government trying to prevent civilians in Deraa, city of Ramtha, from escaping deteriorating security situation, ‘Al Ghad’ reports.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=245838
The Syrian army planted landmines at the border with Jordan in order to “restrict Syrians access to humanitarian asylum in Jordan,” a week after reports that Syria was laying explosives on the border with Lebanon as well, Jordanian daily Al Ghad reported Wednesday.
Syria was laying mines on its border with the Hashemite Kingdom in order to prevent Syrian evacuees from the Deraa governate and the city of Ramtha from entering Jordan, according to an informed source speaking on condition of anonymity to Al Ghad.
“[Syrians] are fleeing the deteriorating security situation in their country,” the source said according to Al Ghad.
Tensions between Jordan and Syria have hit a low since King Abdullah II called on Syrian President Bashar Assad to step down, and Syrian activists loyal to their president stormed the Jordanian mission in Damascus.
Abdullah’s comments came after at least 40 Syrians were killed in fighting on Monday between forces loyal to Assad and insurgents in a town near the border with Jordan, local activists said, in the first case of major armed resistance to Assad in the region.
The Syrian army has also laid mines on its border with Lebanon, according to local Lebanese officials and witnesses.
One man, Emad Khaled al-Awsheh, was heading back from Syria into Lebanon when he stepped on an explosive, blowing off part of his leg, according to Reuters. The incident took place at Huwaishat on the Syrian side of the border, neighboring northern Lebanon.
Syria may be trying to control the mass exodus of its citizens while Assad and forces loyal to him continue a crackdown on separatist elements and anti-regime protesters that has claimed the lives of more than 3,500 Syrians, according to Human Rights Watch.
Activists claim that Syria has been randomly placing the dangerous explosives, without regard to the villages nearby.
“To place an indiscriminate weapon near villages and places where children were previously known to frequent is absolutely unacceptable,” the mayor of the northern Lebanese village of Kneissah told Lebanon’s Daily Star.
According to local officials speaking to the Star, Syria has planted mines along the length of the norther border, through disputed territory, and along Lebanon’s eastern border with Syria.
More than 19,000 Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring Turkey since violence began eight months ago between forces loyal to President Bashar Assad and anti-regime activists, according to the New York Times. About 7,600 still reside in refugee camps there.
An estimated 6,000 evacuees are also living in Lebanon, according to Dubai-based Al Arabiya.
November 16th, 2011, 8:10 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
I do not understand the purpose of attacking the airforce intelligence center,other than to test the regime,the plan is completely different,we are not looking for foreign intervention,we are not looking for Turkish invasion, TSMC is formed, but the plan is different, AL is wise in sending a team to monitor the compliance of the very soon to go regime.
November 16th, 2011, 8:24 pm
Tara said:
Bronco,
This is what Washington really said today.
Syrian opposition resorting to violence “not surprising”:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-11/17/c_131251405.htm
WASHINGTON, Nov. 16 (Xinhua) — The U.S. State Department said on Wednesday that it is “not surprising” that Syrian opposition is resorting to violence to attack the government.
Toner’s comment came after reports said some defectors from the Syrian military forces attacked a Syrian military base on Wednesday and inflicted heavy casualties.
He said the U.S. does not “condone it in anyway,” blaming Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for taking the country from a non- violence movement to a “very dangerous path.”
“We don’t condone violence, not on the part of the Syrian military, the Syrian regime, nor on the part of the opposition,” said Toner, asserting that it “plays into Assad’s and his regime’s hands when this becomes violent.” But he fell short of condemning the violence by the Syrian opposition.
“This was a peaceful movement in its inception and it’s only because of the regime’s repeated and brutal campaign of violence against innocent protesters that we’re seeing the country move down this very dangerous path,” he said.
….
November 16th, 2011, 8:25 pm
bronco said:
Jad #204
I think the US is very worried by the FSA that sounds more and more like uncontrollable extremists islamists who could create chaos under the pretext of protecting the civilians protesters. The USA has always rejected a military intervention in Syria because it could affect directly Israel.
The USA is realizing now that the uprising has ceased to be peaceful and has opened the door to sunni islamic militias that could be very easily infiltrated by jihadists and Al Qaeda. If they grow and arm themselves better, they could present a serious danger for Israel. It will be the first time that Al Qaeda would be so close to Israel.
On the other hand Israel has been expressing more worries that another Islamic, MB style, coming to Syria will be more militarily aggressive than Bashar al Assad has been.
Therefore I think the USA priority is changing. It wants first to stop the flow of weapons and extremist militias infiltrated by Al Qaeda that could become a direct threat to the security of Israel.
They are facing a real dilemma.
The only power that can eradicate these extremists is the Syrian Army under Bashar Al Assad. If a Sunni power takes over it won’t be able to crush the Sunni islamists militias ( we have seen that in Pakistan and Afghanistan). Thus Bashar al Assad has to stay in power to execute that mission. This is why the US has stopped asking Bashar al Assad to step down or to go aside.
They want him to proceed with the reforms and they trust he is under enough pressure to implement them while fighting these militias. After all that is over, he may step down
The AL is now sending a team to observe the situation on the ground and confirm the presence of the islamist militias. They may impose symbolic sanctions to satisfy the opposition and the internatonal community, while allowing Bashar al Assad to stay in power and sufficiently powerful to eradicate the sunni islamists militias.
Syria is now in war against Sunni extremists and Al Qaeda, thus on the US side. A new situation.
November 16th, 2011, 8:26 pm
Norman said:
Bronco,
I hope that the US administration as smart as you are, I am not holding my breath.
November 16th, 2011, 8:39 pm
Dale Andersen said:
From the EU/JEWjewJEW/Salafi/al Qaeda/Saudi/CIA Press:
This is for you, Bronco Billy. This is for you, Jaddie. This is for you, Spammie Annie…
“…Even without going so far as saying that outside forces are fomenting revolution with arms, the reality is that the West, along with Turkey and now the Arab League, is openly supporting an alternative government in the form of the Syrian National Council.
It’s not the outside world which has brought this about. Once President Assad and his relatives decided on a campaign of violent oppression, and then failed to succeed immediately, the situation was bound to deteriorate into mutual violence. What else were the protesters supposed to do? Go on being shot down at will? Of course they’ve resorted to arms and of course they’ve sought outside help…”
http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/04/arab-news-fox-news-style.html
November 16th, 2011, 8:40 pm
bronco said:
198. Tara
Tara, Israel is very worried about the growth of extreme islamic countries in their borders ( temporary disguised in ‘moderate’)
While the MB in Egypt attempts to be reassuring by changing the name of the party and making soft statements, its aim has always been to eradicate Israel.
Once in power it’s not sure they’ll change their mind, and they will use Israel as the scapegoat for their inability to fulfill the ‘revolution’ economical promises. So Israel will find itself with a neighbor whose majority want its destruction.
Because of that development in the region, I guess Israel does not want to see Syria unstable with roaming islamic militias or dominated by a government sympathetic to the MB.
I think a change is going on in the USA about Syria.
November 16th, 2011, 8:42 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
bronco
You are far far away from reality.,you do not know what is going on.
November 16th, 2011, 8:45 pm
bronco said:
Norman
“I hope that the US administration as smart as you are, I am not holding my breath.”
If you accept that the USA has three highest priorities in the regions: 1) Prevent Al Qaeda to regroup in any arab country, 2) protect Israel 3) ensure the flow of oil ( not in that order)
then call for democracy and human rights come after.
The USA does not want Syria to become a safe haven for Al Qaeda chased out of Iraq. It is far too dangerous for Israel bordering Syria.
After 8 months they realized that the opposition failed to unite, failed to bring significant defections in Bashar government and failed to convince the arabs. The Opposition succeeded in pushing for reforms but failed in their aim of toppling Bashar.
Now not only the opposition groups are bickering with each other but they have allowed armed islamic militias to move into Syria.
This why the USA must adjust its strategy, I think it is very obvious for them.
I think they are going to allow Bashar al Assad to stay in power, provided he crackdown in these militias while expressing outrages at any death.
November 16th, 2011, 8:56 pm
Tara said:
I must admit that say a year ago, I never cared for Canada or anything Canadian. It was for me yet another country out there, somewhat boring compared to the US. I find myself more and more drawn to Canada recently…
Time to get out of dodge — er, Damascus
November 16, 2011. 7:34 pm
Foreign Minister John Baird reiterated that message in Question Period on Wednesday. Just in case there’s anyone out there who didn’t get it the first time:
John Baird (CPC) The campaign of violence and terror against the Syrian people must end. This government has called for Assad to step down. We’ve imposed tough sanctions on the regime and the key actors who are causing the violence. Canada stands with the Syrian people at their time of need. While I have this opportunity, Mr. Speaker, I would like to strongly advise any Canadians currently in Syria to leave through commercial options while they’re still available.
Consider yourself warned…
November 16th, 2011, 9:06 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Bronco
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8890422/Syria-Bashar-al-Assad-increasingly-isolated-says-US.html
Us said Bashar lost his legitimacy and must go.
November 16th, 2011, 9:07 pm
Ghufran said:
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The mood in Egypt is becoming increasingly hostile to Qatar and the way the AL is being prostitutionized by the Goat Princes,and the US was made aware of it. Three more days is better than nothing,and a slight delay in the Qatar’s destructive campaign is a welcome change but it is not enough.
Majed,violence when not done in self defense is only helpful for enemies of the state. The attack on the AFI is not inline with the SNC and the CC objectives or methods but I have not heard yet any comments from the opposition leaders on that dangerous escalation.
Kidnapping of ordinary citizens following by the dumping of their bodies is the trademark of terrorists not true revolutionists,it makes no difference who does it.
Tara,people like you are not welcome in the big boys club headed by the likes of khaled and revlon,not to mention somebody like me who wants Bashar to leave and the regime changed but refuse to slaughter Syrians based on their names and where they came from.
November 16th, 2011, 9:10 pm
Majed97 said:
As much as I would like to believe it, I’m not convinced of any changes in the US position on Syria, unless Syria has quietly agreed to distant itself from Iran. Let’s not forget why this whole thing started: the US and GCC’s fear of Iran and the Shiaa crescent, remember?
November 16th, 2011, 9:12 pm
Norman said:
Bronco,
I still hope that you are right,
The US after 9/11/01 where 17/19 hijackers ere from Saudi Arabia, instead of attacking the country that was responsible to indoctrinate these hijackers, they attacked a poor country of Afghanistan and another secular state that has nothing to do with that attack, you still think that the Us administration is as smart as you think,
November 16th, 2011, 9:12 pm
bronco said:
219 MajedAlkhaldoon
“It is clear that the Assad regime is continuing to be isolated, that the political pressure on them is building,” said White House spokesman Josh Earnest.”
This White Houses sentence DOES not say he lost his legitimacy and must step down. It is the journalist who is saying it.
Always get the original sentence not the journalist’s personal interpretation, especially the Telegraph.
November 16th, 2011, 9:27 pm
Ghufran said:
Libya,the remaking
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November 16th, 2011, 9:28 pm
Ghufran said:
Majed97
I think the syrian-Iranian relationship will take a new shape regardless of who is in charge of the Syrian government. I tend to dislike allowing any foreign nation to dictate the FP of Syria and this includes Iran and Turkey and certainly the Goat Emirates.
Btw,I do not believe the story that Syrians who burnt the Turkish flags and attacked foreign embassies were hired and paid by the regime.
The regime allowed those angry youth to express their anger,as wrong as their actions were,but the buttom line is that a large section of Syrians are tired of being fearful and cornered and they are upset at everything around them from the regime,the armed gangs and the foreign powers.
November 16th, 2011, 9:34 pm
bronco said:
221. Majed97
One thing is clear, Syria seems to have distanced itself from Hamas and from the Palestinian in general as they got zero support from them. Even its relation with Hezbollah is not what it used to be.
Syria cannot support Hezbollah the same way because it is weakened.
I think it is more urgent now for the USA to stop Syria becoming haven for islamists.
November 16th, 2011, 9:37 pm
Tara said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/16/free-syrian-army-lebanese-border
Free Syrian Army takes shape on Lebanese border
A disaffected soldier who has fled the Syrian military explains why he is fighting to bring down Assad’s regime
Syrian army defectors say they will protect civilians. Source: Reuters Link to this video
The man from the Free Syrian Army pointed to a spot on a distant hill marked by a lone white tent and a cluster of trees. “That’s how we get in,” he said of his furtive and increasingly frequent trips back to Syria. “We wait for them to look the other way and we move.”
In early May, Ahmed al-Arabi left his job as a captain in the Syrian army and took to life as a rebel in exile in the foothills of northern Lebanon. Ever since, his role as a revolutionary seems to have grown by the month.
But the events of the past week, which have seen Syria suspended from the Arab League and a spike in an already bloody crackdown, appear to have propelled Arabi and his cause to a point he thought it would take much longer to reach. “There is a real chance now,” he said of the Free Syria Army’s intensifying guerrilla campaign against the regime of President Bashar al-Assad. “Just in the past few days in Homs alone, we have seen 70 defections from the regular troops and 13 from the special forces.”
Now, the loose alliance of disaffected soldiers who have left the Syrian military since its violent crackdown against rights demonstrators began in March, appears to have announced its arrival as a national resistance movement.
Three attacks on Wednesday morning targeted key sites in Syria. All were launched by men who, like Arabi, were reluctant loyalists at the start of the year. And all were soon shown on regional television, which has become a veritable operations room for rebels, who rarely get to communicate directly.
“That was us,” said Arabi as al-Jazeera showed footage of a man firing a machine gun, followed by a huge roadside bomb targeting what looked like a convoy. “There will be many more of them,” he added. “Most defectors who have come to Wadi Khaled have now gone back to organise and launch attacks. The regime is in trouble now.”
This tiny, drab border town in Lebanon’s impoverished north has become one of two main hubs for an armed resistance campaign that is increasingly taking shape inside Syria; the other is in southern Turkey. With rugged hills and plunging valleys on both sides, the town has always been an ideal smuggling route for Lebanese and Syrians, supplying a vibrant black market. These same well-plied routes are now used to move men and women – many of them former soldiers who have regrouped in Wadi Khaled and travelled back home, in some cases with extra weapons sourced in Lebanon.
Arabi was reluctant to discuss weapons supply lines into Syria, although he said no states were involved. He was more comfortable talking about Syrian military infiltrations and the planting by the Assad regime of land mines in the past month, which have sharply raised the stakes on the mountain trails.
Under a light rain, Arabi stepped over a small wall and pulled a vegetable sack from the foliage. He dropped it on the cement with a little too much abandon given what was inside, before pulling out a large anti-tank mine. “I pulled it out of the ground last week,” he said. Fresh mud was still caked to the weapon, about the size of a dinner plate. “Don’t step on it if you’re heavy.
“There are hundreds along the border. But there are soldiers who have told us where the mines were planted and where it is still safe to travel.”
The veteran of 29 years in the Syrian military paints a picture of soldiers increasingly reluctant to stick to the official narrative of the uprising, which tells of an out-manoeuvred national army fighting armed extremists backed by Europe, the US and the Sunni Arab world. “In the officer corps, they know what is going on, but are too scared to do anything. There are many people inside the military who are better off for us there.”
Arabi, a native of Homs, where an armed fightback has been gathering steam since August, suggests the Free Syria Army’s strength is about 15,000 nationwide. “Many of those who have joined us have come with their weapons, or pointed us to places where weapons are being stored,” he said. If his estimate is correct, the force, though loosely organised and lacking a cohesive command and control structure, poses a potent and growing problem for the military.
Military leaders are likely to focus on the relative ease with which rebels such as Arabi and former colonel Riad al-Assad, who commands a separate force from southern Turkey, are able to slip across the border and help with decision making.
Arabi said he shuttled to Homs most weeks. And the former colonel’s men are known to use routes to Idlib in the north, where they claim to have established a haven.
For the Free Syria Army, however, a large obstacle stands in front of their ultimate goal – the fall of the Assad regime. The senior military leadership and the Syrian establishment remain entwined by members of the Alawite sect, to which the Assad clan belongs. There have been no known defections from any senior establishment position.
In a sign of the enduring strength of key military units, the Fourth Division, controlled by Bashar al-Assad’s brother, Maher, moved into the National hospital in Homs on Wednesday, setting up what appeared to be a large command post.
However, Arabi believes momentum will soon swing fully in the guerrillas’ favour. “If we can get a UN resolution on a no-fly zone, this will all be over in 24 hours,” he said. “There are thousands who are too scared to move before they know it’s safe to do so.”
Before leaving Wadi Khaled, Arabi joined us on a drive along rain-soaked ridge lines and valleys. A black-and-white scarf bound tight around his head to ward off the cold, he pointed across a muddy field, where he said a friend was killed in a recent battle as he tried to return to Homs. Under grey foreboding skies, it looked like the Yorkshire moors.
At a point down the valley he showed us a Syrian position tucked into a tree line. “I know all of their places,” he said. “We have to.”
With that, Arabi said he had a meeting to attend and bade us farewell. He said he never slept in Wadi Khaled, moving between nearby villages at night to evade Syrian spies or their Lebanese proxies. “When this is all over, we will meet for lunch in Homs.”
November 16th, 2011, 9:39 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
Dear Tara:
I do not agee with you disappointment. One of the major tactics in psychological warfare is teasing, in other word playing the “mouse and cat” game. This is exactly what they are doing with him.
For long, he looked at the gulf states in contempt. For long, he looked at them as bedouins and at himself as civilized. For long, he considered them stupid and unpatriotic. You remember when he called them half-men. It is the time now that they show him what they can do.
In the same way the menhibik people treated our revolution. They treated it with contempt and arrogance. They called it with all names, including ???? ??? ?????. All that because they looked at those poor people as unworthy of freedom and dignity. This people is showing them what it can do.
In the same way, the one who thought by calling me yesterday Mohamed Haytham Khoury that she is insulting me. I would like to tell her that I am proud of that name.
The decision to push the Assad away has been taken at the highest level in the world. The question is not anymore if, the question is when.
November 16th, 2011, 9:40 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Rumors are circulating throughout the world recently with the supposed discovery of one of the legendary Hall of Records in Egypt. The Egyptian government along with recently retired Zahi Hawass who ran the Egyptian Antiquities Department have adamantly denied these claims saying that no such building or chamber has been found. However, many researchers and even some archaeologists are saying that the chamber was indeed found but has been covered up due to the contents inside and what it would mean to both our understanding of history and Ancient Egypt’s history.
November 16th, 2011, 9:43 pm
bronco said:
Tara #218
The usual double talk:
http://www.mining.com/2011/11/03/sunor-announces-record-third-quarter-operations-continue-in-syria-despite-troubles/
Suncor announces record third quarter; operations continue in Syria despite troubles
Michael Allan McCrae | November 3, 2011
Suncor Energy Inc. (NYSE:SU), Canada’s largest energy company, announced third quarter record earnings of $1.287 billion or 82 cents per share.
Operating earnings almost tripled to a record $1.789 billion or $1.14 per common share.
On the news, which was announced on Thursday, the company’s shares were up 1.8% to $31.88.
Production from oil sands was a bright spot for the company with an increase from 306,600 to 326,600 barrels a day; however cash costs increased $3.30 a barrel.
“The increase is a reflection of higher total cash operating costs primarily due to maintenance on a hydrogen plant, workovers on in situ wells, and growing mining and in situ operations, partially offset by the impact of higher production volumes during the quarter,” said the company in a statement.
In April last year Suncor started production at a $1.2 billion commercial gas plant. The operation has gas wells and an electricity plant for the Syrian local market.
In the previous quarter, Suncor took a $0.5 billion write down on its Libyan assets due to the civil war in the country. Suncor says that the troubles in Syria have not yet affected its business.
Syria has experienced waves of civil unrest, which the government has severely repressed. Countries in the region are starting to
“In response to recent events in Syria, new sanctions were announced during the quarter prohibiting, among other things, the purchase of Syrian oil production and new investment in the Syrian oil industry. Current sanctions do not impact the production and sale of natural gas from the Ebla project, which is not exported, but which helps meet the domestic energy supply. Suncor continues to comply with the terms of all applicable sanctions and recognizes the concerns that exist about ongoing events in Syria. Suncor continues to carefully monitor the unrest and is taking all necessary precautions for the safety of our people. Suncor believes that, by employing local Syrian staff, developing Syrian capability and producing natural gas to generate electricity for domestic consumption, the company can be a positive contributor in Syria, provided the work can be done responsibly. To that end, Suncor is also focused on the social responsibility we have in operating in an area affected by conflict.”
November 16th, 2011, 9:48 pm
Darryl said:
222. NORMAN said:
“Bronco,
I still hope that you are right,
The US after 9/11/01 where 17/19 hijackers ere from Saudi Arabia, instead of attacking the country that was responsible to indoctrinate these hijackers, they attacked a poor country of Afghanistan and another secular state that has nothing to do with that attack, you still think that the Us administration is as smart as you think,”
Norman, the US strategist get it right often enough to be good enough for government work. Attacking Afghanistan was the whole point for 9/11 as they can spy and deploy assets against Iran, Pakistan, India, China and most of CIS countries. Iraq was another good decision as now most of the oil is in rich isolated Kurdistan. And finally they got it right with KSA, did you not see the video of GW Bush raising a toast to Khadem Al-Harameine Alshareefeine?
All other Muslims have to wait to get to heaven to enjoy the rivers of wine, that is provided they got the beard length just right.
November 16th, 2011, 9:50 pm
irritated said:
Haytham #228
“The question is not anymore if, the question is when.”
What’s you bet, one year, two years? more? Toppled, resigned or end of term?
November 16th, 2011, 9:51 pm
Ghufran said:
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http://www.alquds.co.uk/index.asp?fname=today%5C16qpt477.htm&arc=data%5C2011%5C11%5C11-16%5C16qpt477.htm
November 16th, 2011, 9:52 pm
sheila said:
To SS,
You said:” 201. Jad “Jordan is having trouble tonight too, poor Abdo, it’s his turn now to use tanks:
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Best news for the night.
BEST BEST NEWS OF THE NIGHT. Thank GOD”
Seriously? You are gloating because Jordan is having trouble? Other than your feeling of vindication, did the trouble in Jordan save one Syrian from being killed? Did it change anything on the ground in Syria? The answers are no and no. Gloating about other peoples problems is the definition of a SICK MIND.
November 16th, 2011, 9:59 pm
Mango said:
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November 16th, 2011, 10:02 pm
zoo said:
Turkey’s anxieties and Syria
Wednesday, November 16, 2011
…The Turkish government, anticipating what might unfold after the regime is overthrown, is very well aware of the fact that it will face a serious dilemma. On the one hand, Kurdish and Nusayri (Alawite) problems in Syria are a source of anxiety for Turkey; on the other hand, the fact that the new rulers of the country are Sunni Islamist groups is deemed good news. For example, Turkey has not forgotten Syria’s past support to the Kurdistan People’s Party (PKK) and Marxist organizations as a sectarian network. A resurgence of this form of relationship in the new era, through local dynamics and new sponsors, won’t be a surprise.
In theory, Turkey can deal with this dilemma. On the one hand, it may use its democratic experience and economic capacity; on the other hand, it may increase its cooperation with some Arab countries, the United States and the European Union. However, these options may not suffice to remove all of Turkey’s anxieties, because Turkey’s “success story” in the realm of democracy and economy may not even be sufficient for managing its own internal fault lines. Outside its political borders, it can never prevent the ever-increasing and deepening religious, ethnic and sectarian disintegration and clash. Moreover, the characteristics of the insurgency in Syria, the political culture of the country and a likely lack of political stability during the implementation of democracy indicate that the formation of a stable new political order may take at least half a century.
Recently, Turkish government officials warned Assad to not even think about using the PKK card in his relationship with Turkey, but certain developments previously in Iraq and now Syria show that the Kurdish card will be on the table for a long time regardless of what Assad does. Meanwhile, Turkey, with its new stance, is trying to diminish the negative impacts of an unrestrained Kurdish wave that is similar to the ones which have arisen in Iraq.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkey8217s-anxieties-and-syria-2011-11-16
November 16th, 2011, 10:06 pm
Ghufran said:
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November 16th, 2011, 10:07 pm
zoo said:
An American in Homs
November 15, 2011
An audio report from Syria
http://tarpley.net/2011/11/15/report-from-syria/
November 16th, 2011, 10:15 pm
Mango said:
Moscow already prepares «cheap, but effective» the answer to placing of the American ABM in Europe — the newspaper “Businessman”
Washington has officially refused to give Moscow legal guarantees (not orientations) of the system of antimissile defense towards the Russian Federation, and Russia starts to develop the military-technical answer to the American ABM in Europe, the newspaper “Businessman” on Friday writes.
«The general understanding of that it is necessary to do, already is. Our answer will manage cheaply, but will be extremely effective», — has informed the edition the high-ranking source in the Kremlin.
According to the interlocutor of the newspaper, Moscow has already started to think over measures of military-technical character.
«Intentions of Americans become more and more obvious: they are going to build the ABM and our opinion in calculation are not going to accept», — he underlines.
The newspaper source has noticed that even if the USA nevertheless will decide to give Russia any legal guarantees, «it already will not suit us — after all these guarantees will operate years five, and the US president following after Obama quite can refuse them».
November 16th, 2011, 10:20 pm
Revlon said:
153. Ya Mara Ghalba,
Notwithstanding your alleged and selective display of ratio of Alawis in Syrian governmental institutions, it remains a fact that tribalism/sectariansim plus corruption have invariably lead to beinng of all decision makers in the Syrian regime, regardless of their rank purely 100% Alawis.
Here they are again for your record:
1. Virtrually deposed, President and Chief of the armed forces : Jr Asad
2. Chiefs of Intelligence agencies (Not the branches): All Alawis
3. Directors of branches of intelligence agencies: When the director is not Alawis, the next rank Alawis is universally the decision maker
4. High Commanders of the army, air force, and Navy: When the higher rank is not-alawi, the next alawi rank is universally the decision maker.
5. Decision makers in all public institutions: Never mind who the director is; any lower rank Alawi employee can kick ass and impose their will on the whole institution.
November 16th, 2011, 10:28 pm
Hans said:
The Saudi new invention and contribution to the world and civilization.
I wonder if China is the one who gave them the machines and the software to do it.
retards, Pigs, people who should never existed as human beings but oil made them appear on Google map.
http://www.alquds.co.uk/index.asp?fname=online\data\2011-10-31-14-53-03.htm
November 16th, 2011, 10:36 pm
Omar said:
Too many angry people here, why not sit and talk peace instead?
November 16th, 2011, 10:47 pm
Mango said:
CIA operations in Iran underway to take out Tehran bigs in mission to dismantle weapons program
Explosions and assasinations at Iran nuke base pinned to Israel may have been CIA
BY HELEN KENNEDY
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
In public Sunday, President Obama was at a summit unsuccessfully leaning on Russia and China to back diplomatic efforts to curb Iran’s nuke program.
In private Sunday, there was more evidence of an efficient and brutal covert operation that continues to degrade Iran’s military capabilities.
Iranian officials revealed that one of the 17 men killed in a huge explosion at a munitions depot was a key Revolutionary Guard commander who headed Iran’s missile program. And the IRNA state news agency reported that scientists had discovered a new computer virus in their systems, a more sophisticated version of the Stuxnet worm deployed last year to foul up Iran’s centrifuges.
Iran said the army base explosion was an accident and the new Duqu virus was contained. But Israeli newspapers and some U.S. experts said it appeared to be more from an ongoing secret operation by the CIA and Israel’s Mossad to eliminate Iran’s nuclear threat.
The covert campaign encompasses a series of assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists since 2007 and a similar explosion at another Iranian missile base two years ago both widely attributed to the Mossad.
“May there be more like it,” was all Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said when Army Radio asked about the new blast.
There was a third mysterious event: The son of a top Iranian hard-liner was found dead — a seeming suicide — in a Dubai hotel on Sunday. His father called it “suspicious” and linked to the base explosion, without elaborating.
Israel was accused of deploying the 11 agents who killed a top Hamas terrorist in a Dubai hotel last year.
Tension has risen in recent weeks between Iran and the United States as a key United Nations report said Iran was close to being able to build a nuclear weapon.
At the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference in Hawaii, Obama tried to get Russia and China to back a bid to tighten sanctions on Iran, meeting individually with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Chinese President Hu Jintao.
Afterward, Hu didn’t even mention Iran, and Medvedev said only that he had spoken with Obama about Iran.
Obama came under withering fire from the GOP presidential candidates at a debate Saturday, when the front-runners agreed he had been too weak on Iran and vowed to go to war to stop Iran’s nuclear ambitions if needed.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) slammed Obama for not being “smart” on Iran.
Gingrich said he would launch “maximum covert operations” against Iran, “including taking out their scientists. . . . All of it covertly, all of it deniable.”
White House deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes told reporters that pressure on Iran had put its leadership in disarray, and “the Iranian economy has ground to a halt.”
November 16th, 2011, 10:48 pm
Omar said:
“retards, Pigs, people”
Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Bad mouthing others does not bring solution, talk peace instead
November 16th, 2011, 10:51 pm
Tara said:
Dear Revlon
Thank you very much for writing post 240 explaining the obvious. It amazes me the amount of self-deception present on SC. I wanted to write similar post long time ago but never had the mental energy to explain these very well known facts to our audience.
Dear Haytham
Thank you for your response. Sound assessment. Whatever the future will bring, I must say I enjoyed the humiliation the AL imposed on the regime since Saturday. The regime was literally begging for the observers to come agreeing to everything the AL may see fit. While I do get drawn to solid genuine people, I do not appreciate half-men figures and Bashar proved himself nothing but a half-man who tremble when you scare him… I am sure there is more to come
November 16th, 2011, 10:53 pm
Hans said:
The play was written the theater was chosen, Syria is the place, people ripped well in advance, dreams filled young people heads, with something better coming.
it was same way Obama was elected, too much promises, lies, fabrication of previous administration mistakes, change is coming to the USA with Obama riding on a horse to the white house, Obama is going to fix America, bring back its pride, fix economy and make people happy.
well, it was All BS… the people found out Obama done nothing better than GW, at least the latter stood up for his words even if they were naive and not very political and not thing better or fixed.
it is all written on books and GW and Obama have to do what is written to them by the Zionists hawks who run the USA.
it is same pattern for Syria, it is all written and the robots are doing the role they are assigned too, some are paid by foreigners others are naive enough to believe anything will change with this so called revolution, it is all the same, it is a matter of time to have someone else who will act worse than the current regime, it is matter of time and given the mentality we have it is going to be an opportunity for the new herd to fill up their pockets and put it out in Swiss banks.
the naive common think equality, freedom, happiness is heading their way.
the only losers in this equations are the people who are dying to make the above happening….
but if they are martyrs then no loss, there is many virgins and rivers of wines waiting for them, unless they are females martyrs then they get nothing for dying.
What a shame that’s all.
November 16th, 2011, 10:59 pm
jad said:
Ghufran
“I have not heard yet any comments from the opposition leaders on that dangerous escalation.”
They will never condemn such thing, it’s their own creation:
This is from a friend:
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November 16th, 2011, 11:23 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
NON ISLAMISTS
I think it is more urgent now for the USA to stop Syria becoming haven for islamists
HAVEN of SECULAR and OTHER PARTIES:
—————————————
ABU MUSAAB ALZARQAWI: Leader of a non-violent SHINTU Party in Iraq, with Syria turning its eyes back when smuggling flowers to Iraq. useful to spread eastern philosophy regarding ambivalence about death.
HIZBUALLA: A peaceful Communist secular organization in Lebanon adamant on ending sectarianism in Lebanon.
HAMAS: A Buddhist group operating in the little strip of Gaza and headquartered in Damascus.
IRAN: Is ruled by a group of enlightened libertarians.
SLEEP, SLUMBER
November 16th, 2011, 11:34 pm
zoo said:
The top 10 largest holders of U.S. debt as of the end of October.
The United States will tread carefully as Beijing is the country’s largest creditor, holding more than $900 billion worth of U.S. Treasury bonds.
— China, mainland: $906.8 billion
— Japan: $877.4 billion
— United Kingdom: $477.6 billion*
— Oil exporters, which include Ecuador, Venezuela, Indonesia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Gabon, Libya, and Nigeria: $213.9 billion.
— Brazil: $177.6 billion
— Hong Kong: $139.2 billion
— Caribbean banking centers, which include Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Netherlands Antilles and Panama: $133.7 billion
— Russia: $131.6 billion
— Taiwan: $131.2 billion
— Canada: $125.2 billion
November 16th, 2011, 11:35 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
Tara # 243.
I can tell you from now what the observers’ final report will be: Failed to fulfill his commitment. That is necessary to send the regime file to UNSC.
November 16th, 2011, 11:36 pm
jad said:
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November 16th, 2011, 11:43 pm
jad said:
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November 16th, 2011, 11:47 pm
jad said:
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November 16th, 2011, 11:52 pm
louai said:
Norman was it you who wrote this article? 🙂
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……….
http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=140100
November 16th, 2011, 11:59 pm
Hans said:
Upon the time there was a philosopher here, who said he is going away to write and give his wisdom to other aliens because this earth is not worth wasting his time in and he is busier than human beings here, he was very knowledgeable and could talk about anything comes across, though he sounded very naive, soaked into myths and less to be trusted a times.
The people on this earth were very happy because he was not around even they knew where he was and he was irritating the others with his popcorn speech but happy because he was not around at any rate.
He has his hands full of sins and earthy deals with mercenaries, traitors and souls sold to the devil.
Though in a short while of time, he descended back to earth like a shower of stars and again started irritating everyone around him.
Old friends here were happy for him to come back but they were not sure why he is back, he is suppose to be involved with the new creation of a planet full of laws, wisdom where people can fly like angels, smiles don’t leave their faces and no worry about anything of the earth material dirt.
please MR.Philosopher leave the earth and go back to your writing and creation. We don’t need anymore wisdom we learned enough till we face creator and will be well suited if we have to do so.
November 17th, 2011, 12:07 am
Hans said:
Question to reasonable people i.e Norman, Jad, Darryl!
what is your prediction if there is a free democratic election in Syria, sponsored by international organization Carter’s etc…
would Bashar has a chance, against crooks like Ghalioun and others!
I truly believe in a democratic clean election Bashar MAY win it clean, free given the bad reputations the other nominees have.
why the regime has not done so in the last 3 months.
I assume it needs courage, wisdom and planning but I am sure they have thought about it in a serious way.
November 17th, 2011, 12:19 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
??? ?????? ??? ????????? ???????? ?? ??????? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?????????????? ? ??????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ????? ??? ?????
First, this is not foreign intervention?
Second, what the heck is ????????
November 17th, 2011, 12:24 am
Mango said:
251.
????? ??????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ?????? !!!
??? ????? ??????? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ?????? !!!!!
November 17th, 2011, 12:25 am
majedkhaldoun said:
The number of observers 500-600 is such a number that at least 100 will be in Damascus,another hundred will be in Homs and 100 in Horan,another 100 will be in Idleb area.
such number will find many problems unless the regime stop all military presence, and then demonstrations will be all over Syria.
This is another trap for Assad.
November 17th, 2011, 12:30 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
So Trust it is
??? ????? ??????? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ??????
Now I understand why they can not be trusted with the house of Assads.
Thank you for explaining.
November 17th, 2011, 12:34 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
CHARACTERISTICS
I assume it needs
courage: As exemplified by murdering Ghyath Matat
Wisdom: as exemplified recently by unleashing hyenas on Arab embassies and by the declarations of Talib Ibrahim and Walid Muallem.
and
Planning : As exemplified by the wonderful state of the Syrian Economy, infrastructure, and non existent levels unemployment and illiteracy.
but I am sure they have thought about it in a serious way.: Good, stay there.
November 17th, 2011, 12:42 am
SYR.EXPAT said:
Dear Syrian Hamster,
“First, this is not foreign intervention?”
Seeking foreign intervention to defend the Assad mafia and its supporters is okay, but not if the purpose is to defend the Syrian people. I know it’s hard for hamsters to understand this perverted logic, but if you keep trying like the mihibikites do, one day you’ll get it.
November 17th, 2011, 12:43 am
SYR.EXPAT said:
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2011-11-16
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November 17th, 2011, 12:44 am
jad said:
Dear Louai,
How have you been? Hopefully everything is good from your side and from your family side back in Homs.
Hi Hans
#253 was so funny 🙂
About your question, I don’t think that Bashar will run in the next election but I’m positive that very few Syrians (only ghalyoun’s menhebekjieh) will elect any of the crooks we read about today, most of those crooks are nothing but cheap suits.
I’m hoping that we will meet new generation of Syrian politicians who are worth to elect.
November 17th, 2011, 12:45 am
Revlon said:
I love this piece of black comedy.
I think it could be a substance for a poem, a rap, a cartoon, or even a play.
http://en-gb.facebook.com/syria.ruf
_????? – ???? ??? ?????? Syria – Revolution until freedom
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At last; The Arab conspiracy exposed….
????? ????????? ????????? ?? ???? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ??????? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ????? ??????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ??????It all started when BuAzizi met Netenyahoo in a small cafe in Sidi BouZeid and conspired to divide the Arab region; Young BouAzizi agreed to burn himself up in order to become the Torch!
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In order to further weave the conspiracy, and one year prior to BouAzizi’s encounter with Feltman and Netenyaho, Egypt had to be entngled. Therefore, Khaled Said volunteered and tortured himself to death using the hands and assistance of Egyptian police.
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That represented the signal to Yemen and Libya….
In Libya, the lawyer who hopelesly defended thre Martyrs of BouSleem Prison arrested and imprisoned himself in a Qiddafi prison.
In Yemen, Southern coalition movement collaborated with AlQaeda to oust Saleh.
?? ??? ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????? ?? ????? (???? ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???????? ?????????? ??????) ….
All that was merely a prelude and preparatory for what was palnned to happen later in Syria, the real intended targe ; The executioin of the Turko-Israeli-American plan in dividing Syria.
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Daraa kids received the message via a complex, Israeli made spying gadget that was desined by an MB engineer, in collaboration with Israeli and American intelligence, and financed by Qatar with the tacit approval of GCC.
The boy, Hamza AlKhateeb lead a raid on the officers residence complex, supported by Salafi groups in order to kidnapp women. They were needed for own purposes as well as for selling in balck market for use as Hareem in Qndahar!
????? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ????????… ?????????????????
And befor long the Arab world was set on fire!
This is how it all started, and still is unfolding folks!!
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November 17th, 2011, 12:59 am
jad said:
As always, It goes down to Shia vs Sunni, how to convince Bashar to cut his ties with Iran:
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November 17th, 2011, 1:00 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Cheap
nothing but cheap suits: I thought they were getting handsomely paid by the CIA/Bandar/MOSAD/……
Haytham: can you please tell Burhan to buy an Armani suite, my be Alkadi fans intelligentsia will view him with little less hostility.
November 17th, 2011, 1:06 am
Mango said:
??? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ???????? ???????? ??????? ??? ???????? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ????? ? ??????? ? ??????? ???? ??????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????????? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ??? ?? ??????? ??????? ???? ?????? ?????? ???? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????.
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http://www.aldiyaronline.com/index.php/aldiyar-topic-article/45/10926
November 17th, 2011, 1:32 am
jad said:
??? ???? ?? ???? ????
Alkadi’s shoes have more honor than all of the SNC members put together.
November 17th, 2011, 1:32 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Shoes
Alkadi’s shoes have more honor than all of the SNC members put together.
Good, you busy yourself with the honor of shoes, and let others worry about the honor of human beings.
November 17th, 2011, 1:36 am
Revlon said:
261. Dear SYR.EXPAT,
Thank you for the post to AlQuds’s opinion column.
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2011-11-16
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The lesson taht could be drawn from reccent and passed attacks on emnassies by Regime gangsters is this:
The regime’s response to dissent, whether expressed by demonstrating Syrians or by regional or global governments and organisations is one and the same: disrespect, contept, rage, and vilence.
Helpless civilians, the more vulnerable and unprotected of the two groups get the worst treatment, including imprisonment, torture and liquidation.
Representatives of dissenting governments and organisations who demonstrate in their own way, by convening and taking non-violent, group actions get a milder treatment that includes profanity, threats of bodily harm, and property damage.
This because at the core, regime is a mob:
Like any mob, they have slik public relation crooks.
Like any mob, they have smart lawyer crooks.
Like any mob they have priest crooks
Like any mob they have bad cops
Like any mob, they have specialised teams for gagging, hanging, sniping, torturing, vandalising and balckmailing
Which begs the question,
Which is more affordable and realistic?
to reform the mob?
or
to captur the top mobster and though him in jail?
November 17th, 2011, 1:39 am
jad said:
Honor
When you have any Honor you are allowed to speak about it poetic little boy.
November 17th, 2011, 1:43 am
jad said:
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November 17th, 2011, 1:51 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Getting Honor
Well then grown up, care to tell this little boy where did you buy yours.
November 17th, 2011, 1:51 am
Mina said:
Next one is…… Kuwait!
http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/article/2011/11/17/des-membres-de-l-opposition-envahissent-le-parlement-koweitien_1604813_3218.html
November 17th, 2011, 2:01 am
jad said:
Mina,
It’s more likely Jordan
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http://youtu.be/Htp46XiX_2U
November 17th, 2011, 2:05 am
jad said:
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http://www.ahewar.org/debat/show.art.asp?aid=282036
November 17th, 2011, 2:12 am
jad said:
“My favorite quote of the day: from French foreign ministry
So the spokesperson of the French foreign ministry said that foreign intervention is necessary to preserve the “peaceful character” of the Syrian uprising. So basically, NATO bombs and rockets are required to preserve the peaceful character of the Syrian uprising. This is really classic. In other news, Saudi government announced that beheadings of women is necessary for the promotion of women’s rights in the kingdom.
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil”
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2011/11/my-favorite-quote-of-day-from-french.html
November 17th, 2011, 2:19 am
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
I read that at the conclusion of their meeting at Rabat on Wednesday, Arab foreign ministers said they will send a delegation of observers to Syria to find out the facts, but only on condition that the Syrian government first announces its commitment to implement the general Arab League work plan adopted by the Arab League’s Council. I fervently hope Syria will tell the Arab League to stick this work plan up their arse. The agreement dated 2 Nov between Syria and the Arab League, which both sides called an agreement, did not represent an agreement. The Arab League on 12 Nov and 16 Nov proved that their interpretation of the agreement differs in a deal-breaking way from Syria’s.
It’s preposterous of the Arab League to insist on an implementation of its idea of what the solution is, before the Arab League’s delegation goes to Syria to find out what the problem is.
November 17th, 2011, 2:29 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Nop, no title
What a stunner?
His shoes have honor
Never worn by a man
Never touched by a woman
Or abused by a runner
Of death the man schemes
In a fit of rageful screams
But the man is not a sweater
Not a fungi in their seams
His shoes are, off course, his better
What a stunner?
His shoes got all the honor
But the man and his rage
By his fans was left a goner
November 17th, 2011, 2:33 am
Khalid Tlass said:
85. Darryl said:
You see My friend Khalid, I was right about you. You are a very kind pussy cat in a paper tiger suit, Leopards can’t change their spots. The other reason your post improved for a bit was due to all that high energy in the rich tasting Braford beef you ate for Eid Al-AdHa Al-Mubarak.
Out of curiosity, how long is your beard? Is it the right length for admission to heaven?
Beard is not a necessity for heaven, it is Sunnah of the Prophet, in the Qur’an it is said Obey Allah and Obey the Messenger,
The Prophet commanded to keep the beard, however, it is not for humans to judge who will go to heaven and who won;t, the only criteria is Eeman ( sola fides), the rest is up to Allah.
November 17th, 2011, 2:41 am
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: HANS IN YOUR PANTS
RE: “…virgins and rivers of wine…”
I could dig it as long as the virgins are female….and make that red, red wine…
http://grooveshark.com/s/Red+Red+Wine/37VQAZ?src=5
November 17th, 2011, 2:44 am
Revlon said:
267. jad said:
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Absolutely! current Juges in Syria are crooks until proven otherwise!
” Alkadi’s shoes have more honor than all of the SNC members put together”
Mr Ghalyoon, like all hard working Syrians who are struggling to rid their country of Asad mob, take honour from the values they preach, not from what they wear.
An honourable, straight, uncorrupt human rights activist working in Syria can not and should not be able to afford more than a “cheap suit and pair of shoes”. However, Mr AlQadi’s observation implies that he did.
As such, he managed to both, exspose another of his dark hidden sides, materialism and to unwittinglly volunteer a cotrast between his vanity and Mr Ghalioun’s truism.
November 17th, 2011, 2:54 am
Jad said:
Ghalyoun’s menhebakjieh united, take your medications!
November 17th, 2011, 3:26 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
I am confused, i really need someone to explain to me when a shoe is honorable and when it is dishonorable.
The language “his shoe are more honorable than ….so and so” is the same language used by the thugs of the regime describing their masters. I have been told, at least on one occasion, to get ready to kiss Bashar Al-Asad shoes. Don’t you get it…. Don’t you understand that the integrity of the Syrian people, having suffered 50 years of verbal abuse like that will no longer tolerate this useless, violent and crude language of empty bravado.
Where is the logic of calling someone less honorable than a shoe, where does the honor of the shoe lie, does the shoe have integrity?, does the shoe have feeling, does it behave or misbehave?, is there a phallic symbolism in shoes…..
Language is the reflector of culture. Cuss words are part of the language and part of every culture, but imagery used to demean someone is far more telling of the person who uses the imagery than of the image itself.
So think about it, and when you have time for reflection, think about where the honor of shoe lies. I promise you if you think seriously, you will spend a full day laughing.
November 17th, 2011, 3:29 am
jna said:
A long regional analysis by Tony Karon.
The Syria Game of Thrones: Turkey vs. Iran vs. the Saudis in Battle to Shape a Rebellion’s Outcome
http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/11/16/the-syria-game-of-thrones-turkey-vs-iran-vs-the-saudis-in-battle-to-shape-a-rebellions-outcome/
But if the regime is unable to crush the uprising, the opposition still appears to lack the power to topple the regime. The core of Assad’s military remains intact, and willing to carry out the regime’s plan to shoot its way out of the crisis. In the major cities, much of the Sunni urban middle class has remained on the sidelines, while Assad maintains a substantial support base primarily among Syria’s Allawite and Christian minorities, many of whom accept the regime’s portrayal of the opposition as a sectarian Sunni lynch mob.
To the extent that Assad’s repression has pushed the opposition towards an increasingly militarized response, that actually reinforces the regime’s narrative that Syria is in the throes of a sectarian civil war, with Assad casting himself as the protector of Allawites and Christians. On that basis, the regime also appears to have divided the region, with Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen — countries with significant Shi’ite populations, and in the case of Iraq, substantial Iranian influence — having declined to back the original Arab League suspension of Syria. Also, many key leaders of Christian communities in other Arab countries appear to have come out in support of Assad.
Assad can also count on solid backing from Russia, for whom Assad’s Syria is a key geostrategic asset because it provides the Russian navy’s only Mediterranean port, and also from Iran, for which Syria has been the key Arab ally.
November 17th, 2011, 3:38 am
Dale Andersen said:
Well said, Hamster, but your eloquence is wasted on troglodytes like Jaddie, Bronco Billy and Spammie Annie…
http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/07/rock-casbah-yeahhhhhhhhhhhh.html
November 17th, 2011, 3:38 am
Uzair8 said:
[The following story is relevant to the current post]
Assad Spending Spree May Rebound as Syria Runs Short of Cash
November 17, 2011
Nov. 17 (Bloomberg) — President Bashar al-Assad is paying Syrians, via subsidies and higher government salaries, to stay loyal to his government as it clamps down on an eight-month uprising. He may not be able to afford that policy for long.
A month after the unrest began, Assad dismissed a Cabinet that had been tasked with curbing government outlays, raising taxes and making the economy more competitive. The new administration increased subsidies on energy and other products. Civil service pay was raised by 30 percent. Syria has spent $3 billion from a $5 billion rainy-day fund defending the pound this year, central bank Governor Adib Mayaleh says.
Opening the purse-strings hasn’t stopped the protests, and their suppression by security forces, at a cost of thousands of lives, has left Syria increasingly isolated. The Arab League has suspended Syria amid calls for Assad to step down, and Turkey — a neighbor and key trade partner — is threatening commercial sanctions to add to those already imposed by the U.S. and European Union. In that environment, Assad’s bid to buy support may backfire as the money runs out and the economy shrinks, alienating supporters among Syria’s business community.
Read more:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-11-17/assad-spending-spree-may-rebound-as-syria-runs-short-of-cash.html
November 17th, 2011, 3:44 am
jna said:
reply to 283. SYRIAN HAMSTER
Two reminders from proverbs:
Physician, heal thyself (and your cohort).
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
November 17th, 2011, 3:51 am
Dale Andersen said:
Oh sweet baby Jesus, spare us…
“…Rifaat Assad, speaking from his self-imposed exile in Paris, claimed yesterday that the Syrian people needed a strong, stable hand to end the crisis – suggesting he could be the man…”
November 17th, 2011, 3:55 am
Uzair8 said:
If Shaykh Nazim is correct then things are going to get very bad.
See the following for interesting info gathered in 3 forum posts:
http://www.yanabi.com/index.php?/topic/423670-shayk-nazim-take-precaution-in-the-month-of-muharram/page__p__434875#entry434875
example of one hadith:
‘AbdAllah Bin Amr Ibn Al-Aas stated that “If you see or hear about a tyrant in a city who is overpowered by another, and flees to the Romans, then that is the beginning of the greater confrontations. The Romans will come after Muslims.” (Nuaim bin Hammad, Kitab al-Fitan)’
NOTE: According to one interpretation, the ‘Romans’ = Russia. See third post in link for explanation.
November 17th, 2011, 5:24 am
Revlon said:
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http://www.facebook.com/Syria.Revolution.Intelligence
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Names of some Syrian Regime Mobsters that made it to the latest, hit blacklist of EU
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4 hours ago
November 17th, 2011, 5:50 am
Revlon said:
Announcement by commander of AlOmari Phalange of the FSA
(looks like the battle for the liberation of Horan plain shall begin soon)
On 14/11/2011 Asad forces unit committed a massacre against innocent civilians, in Khirbet Ghazaleh
On 15/11/2011, and in retaliation, our unit attacked an Asad phalange inflicting at least 10 Shabbeeha casualties.
We urge Horan public to provide defecting soldiers safe access to FSA units.
We advise all farmers of Horan plains and those who reside in tents to vacate to safer areas. Those plains shall shortly witness FSA military operations against Asad forces.
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November 17th, 2011, 6:11 am
Revlon said:
Asad forces lift the wreckage of an armoured vehicle destroyed by FSA
16/11/2011
Elma, Horan
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November 17th, 2011, 6:26 am
Revlon said:
Belting of the Sherif of Kafr Nibl by an Asad army unit!
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November 17th, 2011, 6:41 am
Tara said:
It looks like some Mnhebaks are displaying signs of mental illness deserved to be studied as it appears widespread
Foot fetich-Mnhebaks’ definition:
http://www.facebook.com/bashar.killed.god?sk=wall
Shoes fetich-Mnhebaks’ definition
Alkadi’s shoes have more honor than all of the SNC members put together.
For those whose displaying affection to Alkadi’s shoes, please beware: the next step is plotting to steal them…
November 17th, 2011, 7:19 am
louai said:
revlon @290
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http://www.syriatruth.org/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1/%D8%A3%D8%AD%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AB%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%80%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%A9/tabid/93/Article/5892/Default.aspx
November 17th, 2011, 7:25 am
louai said:
Dear Jad
i am not doing very well to be honest in those days ,thanks for the AL
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in Homs things are still sad but never as bad as the news , if you know your way you could be safe in Homs , as i hear , the killing and the kidnapping is totally random now days this reflect desperation , the terrorists are doing ?????? just to keep the pressure high in the city .. .
November 17th, 2011, 7:45 am
Ales said:
Iran as Syria ally, that’s the only reason unrest in Syria is still going on now. Probably it won’t be over soon and it will be bloody. Maybe, at the end, foreign secretaries like Hillary or Hague will be able to gloat over Assad’s dead body, with Syria in ruins and hundreds thousands dead. “We came, we saw, he died”. Hippocrates.
The curious thing is, fall of Syria will not hurt Iran, except maybe as humiliation of losing an ally. There’s no common border.
November 17th, 2011, 7:50 am
Akbar Palace said:
“Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.”
Professor Josh,
Perhaps this is why Arabs are dying across the ME.
November 17th, 2011, 8:30 am
N.Z. said:
The regime, like its supporters, raises the flag of Arab Unity when it suits their pervert minds.
The attacks on embassies is a clear sign of utter failure.
When the regime falls, their trumpets will shut up. They rather put their tails between their legs from now, not only because their idol days are numbered, rather because they exhausted all their filthy cards.
The Assad regime, to their credit, were successful in robbing a portion of our society of their free will, and turning them to puppets. Clapping when asked, murderers when needed, but all the way devoid of introspection.
Rehabilitation indeed!
November 17th, 2011, 8:31 am
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
Syria’s minister of foreign affairs said on 15 Nov 2011, “if the Arabs have decided to become conspirators, that’s up to them.” I just want to say that the word “conspirators” and “conspiracy” rings hollow with me. It’s the wrong word. Consider for instance the fact that on 15 Nov 2011 Bahrain’s parliament called for the expulsion of the Syrian ambassador in Bahrain. (By the way, Bahrain’s executive government rejected that idea, though Bahrain’s executive government recalled its ambassador from Damascus in August). The members of Bahrain’s parliament, and the general public of Bahrain, innocently believe the shit they’re reading in the newspapers about the policies and procedures of Syria’s security forces. Therefore you cannot call these Bahrainis conspirators. Slews and slews of newspapers, each with its own editorial independence, are putting out the shit, believing it’s probably the truth, although they know it’s unverified. You cannot call them conspirators either, although you can call them reckless and feckless. You can call them biased. Conspiracy is quite different from bias. Conspiracy requires foresight and coordination. Bias arises from incompetence and narrow-mindedness. Knowing humans as you do, you should not ascribe to foresight and coordination something that can be explained by incompetence and narrow-mindedness.
To help cure their incompetence and narrow-mindedness, Syria has invited the Arab League to send people to Syria to observe the security forces at work first-hand. Syria has specifically invited professional military and police men from Arab countries to come to Syria to observe the policies and procedures and the actual practices that the Syrian security forces are using to maintain law and order. As I said at #277 it shouldn’t be until after these first-hand observations are made that the Arab League can reasonably have any opinion about what the security forces are doing or should do. In particular, it is utterly wrong-headed and unprofessional and immature of the Arab League to rely on what they’ve read in the newspapers.
November 17th, 2011, 8:47 am
zoo said:
“What should be clear, though, is that a chaotic, violent transition of power would not be in Syria’s interest – or Israel’s.”
Syria on the brink
By JPOST EDITORIAL
11/16/2011 22:57
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Editorials/Article.aspx?id=245858
What should be clear, though, is that a chaotic, violent transition of power would not be in Syria’s interest – or Israel’s.
Early on Wednesday morning, it was reported that elements of the Free Syrian Army had launched attacks at several locations 3 kilometers northeast of downtown Damascus.
This represents the latest and most serious threat to the 40-year rule of the Assad family.
It is a welcome development, since Syria, and particularly the Assads, constitute Israel’s oldest and most implacable adversary on its borders.
It is important, however, to stress the caution with which we might welcome the demise of the Syrian regime.
There is good reason to heed the words of warning from the Russian Foreign Ministry: “If the Syrian government is unable to hold onto power, there is a high probability that radicals and representatives of terrorist organizations will become entrenched.”
The latest threat to the Assad regime is multi-faceted, which is precisely why it should be taken seriously.
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The suspension of Syria seems to have provided Jordan’s King Abdullah with the institutional support to call on Monday directly for Bashar Assad’s resignation.
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“If Bashar had the interest of his country [in mind], he would step down. But he would also create an ability to reach out and start a new phase of Syrian political life,” Abdullah said.
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From Israel’s point of view, Syria remains the last of the frontline states that is a credible, powerful enemy. Unlike Lebanon, which is a relatively weak country whose main menace to Israel comes via the Hezbollah militia it hosts, Syria represents a more traditional strategic threat.
Syria has served as a base for several extremist Palestinian groups, and as the conduit for arms flowing from Iran to Hezbollah, which is why Israel’s 2006 war against Hezbollah was so bloody.
The Russian Foreign Ministry has warned that toppling the Assad regime could result in the rise of a radical Islamic one or create a vacuum in which terrorist groups would thrive. This statement could be interpreted as deliberate fear-mongering, because Syria is a long-time Russian ally. But the Russian view should be taken seriously, because it might be accurate.
Israel already has a volatile southern border with Egypt and a fragile northern border with Lebanon.
Assad’s fall could result in chaos along the Syrian border, which could destabilize the region and put greater strain on the security forces.
The leader of the Syrian National Council, Burhan Ghalioun, is an erudite Parisian academic who has said that the Syrian people are supportive of “resistance” against Israel. Very little is known about the rebel commander, Col. Riad al-As’aad, except that he is a Sunni, like many of the Syrian Army defectors who have rallied to his flag.
What should be clear, though, is that a chaotic, violent transition of power would not be in Syria’s interest – or Israel’s.
November 17th, 2011, 8:47 am
zoo said:
Only two powers can stop Syria’s brutality
From Thursday’s Globe and Mail
Published Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2011 7:30PM EST
Syria is now at grave risk of descending into a prolonged civil war of attrition. The Arab League, most Arab states and Turkey have rightly denounced the violence against peaceful protests by many of the Syrian people, but their indignation may not be enough to cause the government of President Bashar al-Assad to change course in the short to medium term.Syria’s membership in the 22-nation Arab body.
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Only the Assad family itself or the Syrian armed forces have the power to cause the security forces to step back from their policy of brutality. Mr. al-Assad, who after his father’s death seemed inclined to liberalize the regime, has formed a habit of making conciliatory noises, talking of reform and non-violence, but he is either unwilling or unable to control the repression. It is possible that the security forces make their own decisions, and that they are led less by the President than by his brother Maher, the commander of both the Republican Guard that controls Damascus, the capital, and an elite armoured division of the army.
This state of affairs makes it hard for the military to separate itself from Mr. al-Assad, as the Egyptian armed forces did earlier this year in detaching themselves from Hosni Mubarak, the former president, and in refusing to shoot demonstrators. But it is not impossible. Most ordinary Syrian soldiers are Sunnis, not members of the Alawite sect to which the Assads belong, and which is overrepresented in the upper ranks of the military.
Notably, the Minister of Defence, and the former head of the army, Lieutenant-General Daoud Rajiha, is Greek Orthodox, having been appointed to replace an Alawite general in August.
If the armed forces do not distance themselves from vicious repression, there will be a slow but steady stream of deserters, such as a unit which, using heavy weaponry and machine guns, assaulted an air-force intelligence complex on the outskirts of Damascus on Wednesday.
Sporadic defections, tending toward the dissolution of the military, are more likely to lead to anarchy than to peace and freedom. The Assads and others in the Alawite elite cannot rule Syria alone. They must find a way, belatedly, to be more like the Egyptian military.
November 17th, 2011, 8:55 am
zoo said:
Mask are falling…
Syrians would accept Turkish intervention: Brotherhood leader
ISTANBUL- Reuters
Thursday, November 17, 2011
A leader of Syria’s outlawed Muslim Brotherhood said today that the Syrian people would accept military intervention by Turkey, rather than Western countries, to protect them from President Bashar al-Assad’s security forces.
Mohammad Riad Shaqfa, who lives in exile in Saudi Arabia, told a news conference in Istanbul that the international community should isolate Assad’s government to encourage people to press their struggle to end more than four decades of Assad family rule.
Hundreds of people have been killed this month, one of the bloodiest periods in the revolt since it began last March. The United Nations estimates that 3,500 civilians have been killed in the past eight months in a crackdown on the protests.
If Assad’s government refused to halt its bloody repression, Shaqfa said it might call for foreign, preferably Turkish, military intervention to protect people.
“If the international community procrastinates then more is required from Turkey as a neighbour to be more serious than other countries to handle this regime,” Shaqfa said.
“If other interventions are required, such as air protection, because of the regime’s intransigence, then the people will accept Turkish intervention. They do not want Western intervention,” Shaqfa said.
The Syrian authorities have banned most independent media and blame the unrest on armed terrorist gangs and foreign-backed militants who they say have killed 1,100 soldiers and police.
NATO-member Turkey had close ties with Assad, but now regards the government in Damascus as untrustworthy. Assad has so far ignored Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan’s repeated entreaties to halt the violence and make urgent political reforms that the protesters are demanding.
Ankara is considering imposing economic sanctions that would target Assad’s government without harming the people, and is working with Arab governments to increase pressure on Damascus to halt the attacks.
Several thousand Syrians, including army officers involved in the armed struggle against Assad, have taken refuge in Turkey, and the opposition has met regularly in Turkey to form the Syrian National Council.
The Syrian National Council is the foremost opposition group, bringing together people ranging from exiled dissidents to grassroots activists and members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
After mobs attacked Turkey’s diplomatic missions in Syria at the weekend, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu hosted representatives of the Syrian opposition at dinner on Sunday.
Turkish officials have repeatedly denied media speculation that one of the contingencies being planned is the creation of a buffer zone inside Syrian territory to protect civilians, and to make it easier for members of the Syrian military to desert.
On Thursday, Turkish officials denied a report in Sabah, a newspaper regarded as close to the government, that said representatives of the Syrian opposition had requested Turkey make plans to implement a no-fly zone a few kilometres inside Syrian territory, and to expand it gradually to cover the city of Aleppo.
Sabah said Turkey told the Syrian opposition that three conditions would have to be met, namely; the no fly zone was U.N. mandated, the Arab League took the initiative to support the process, and the United States and European Union acted as guarantors.
French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe told French BFM Radio on Thursday that France was helping Syrian opposition groups become more organised. Juppe was due to visit Turkey for talks on Thursday and Friday that would focus on Syria.
Shaqfa said members of the opposition council would meet British officials soon.
© 2011 Hurriyet Daily News
URL: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=syrians-would-accept-turkish-intervention-brotherhood-leader-2011-11-17
November 17th, 2011, 8:57 am
zoo said:
Syrian opposition reject talks with Al-Assad regime
17/11/2011
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=27348
By Layal Abou Rahha
Beirut, Asharq al-Awsat- A sense of optimism has engulfed the Syrian National Council, as it believes that the Al-Assad regime has reached its final stage. Consequently, the council which is currently based in Istanbul, Turkey, intends to escalate its activities in the same manner as “with former regimes when they became close to collapse like Egypt and Libya”.
Within this context, National Council member Hassan al-Shibli said in a telephone interview with Asharq Al-Awsat that “the regime has started to feel that things around it became tight; therefore, it is making charges and is trying to circumvent the decisions that have been issued by seeking support from Russia and China.” He expressed belief that the regime “will lose these two allies soon due to its reckless tone, the same as it lost Turkey and the Arab League with the continuation of the Syrian people’s insistence on its demands, the peaceful nature of their movement, and their distinguished performance.”
Al-Shibli expressed belief that “the Syrian opposition has become united now more than any time in the past, since the stands of the Coordination Commission have started to melt into the positions of the National Council.” He pointed out that “after the campaign launched by Syria’s envoy to the Arab League against the Qatari foreign minister, the turn of the foreign minister has come when he rapped the position of Nabil El-Araby, Arab League secretary general. However, all this would be useless and in vain.”
While Al-Shibli expressed belief that it would be ” stupid for the opposition to engage in dialogue of any sort with Al-Assad’s regime because there should be no dialogue except on the mechanism of the transfer of power and halting bloodshed,” Umar Idlibi, member of the National Council and spokesman for the local coordination committees in Syria, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “the talk about a new invitation for dialogue is meaningless and has come too late.” He recalled that “the regime has spoken since the first week of the eruption of the popular movements about a comprehensive dialogue with all strata of the opposition without implementing any of its promises.”
Idlibi pointed out that “there is a clear confusion by the regime in administering its crisis,” explaining that Syrian foreign minister Walid “Al-Muallim’s call for holding an Arab summit does not go in line with the charges he made to 18 countries that took part in issuing the decision,” stressing that “all the talk within this context is only an attempt to play for time and shows that the regime has fully lost its credibility.”
National Council member Adib al-Shishakli did not differ with what his two colleagues have said. In a statement to Asharq Al-Awsat, he expressed belief that “Russia has a political stand it is trying to sell,” and expected that “Russia would change its position that supports the regime after the Arabs adopted a firm decision because Moscow would not relinquish its relations with the Arab countries for the sake of Syria.” Al-Shishakli emphasized that “we have become used to the falsehood and hypocrisy of the regime,” and said that “there is a sort of loss and confusion within the framework of the attempt to find a way out for their crisis, and I think they will never find it.”
November 17th, 2011, 9:14 am
jad said:
Ghalyounis’ Circus Clowns
I’m already laughing at your ridiculous poets and nonsense ”eloquent” comments, besides, the freak show of a talking poetic-romantic hamster kid, a bloodthirsty makeup dude and a pathological liar hoop dancer is funny enough.
Move on idiots!
November 17th, 2011, 10:13 am
jad said:
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November 17th, 2011, 10:16 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Do you remember when was it, that the junta promised to allow journalists in?
We’re still waiting.
Do you remember when was it, that Bouthaina declared that the regime has the upper hand?
Well…
This is what I like about the opposition: they don’t resort to stupid and baseless statements. Ghalyoun, in his Eid speech, promised nothing but continuation of the same. So did FSA’s Asad.
Better not to promise, than promise, and then look as a fool and a lier.
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November 17th, 2011, 10:19 am
jad said:
Bronco,
Back to square one between the West and Russia
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November 17th, 2011, 10:22 am
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
Another indicator that Syria’s economy is moving along okay this year:
November 17th, 2011, 10:30 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Salafi and MB Egypt:
http://arebelsdiary.blogspot.com/
Was it done during the Mubarak (secular) period?
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/11/13/egypt-homosexuals-to-occupy-tahrir-on-january-1/
Was it done during the Mubarak (secular) period?
Think again!
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November 17th, 2011, 10:31 am
jad said:
Dear Louai,
Thank you for the reply, I understand your pain, but don’t give up hope, Syrians will come out better after all this, God willing!
November 17th, 2011, 10:38 am
ann said:
Jordan tribesmen set fire to state building, cars
(AP) – 5 minutes ago
AMMAN, Jordan (AP) — The family of a Jordanian man who died in custody has set fire to a government building and vehicles in riots, blaming the state for his death.
A police report said Thursday that Najm Zoubi, 20, hung himself after he and two others were arrested Wednesday for questioning in a case whose details remain unknown.
It said Zoubi hung himself in a police detention cell, using torn bed sheets.
Forensic doctors say an autopsy performed late Wednesday determined that Zoubi died of asphyxiation.
His cousin Yousef said relatives, suspecting that policemen beat Zoubi to death, torched the state building and four cars in the northern town of Ramtha.
November 17th, 2011, 10:39 am
jad said:
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http://www.alkhabarpress.com/SiteNews/details.php?docId=23050
November 17th, 2011, 10:42 am
Tara said:
Bronco
Interesting analysis in regard to the US position yet don’t you think that it blows up the western conspiracy theory and confirms that the revolution is home-grown? I think the regime and its supporters would be very unhappy with such analysis as it invalidates the core concept of the revolution being a cosmic conspiracy against the blue eyed doctor.
On a lighter note, my daughter told me last night that she does not like Sponge Bob ( which she had a life long love affair with) any more because he shares eyes color with Bashar. I was stunned that she has some understanding of what is going on.
November 17th, 2011, 10:51 am
jad said:
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http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/news/571901/
November 17th, 2011, 11:05 am
jad said:
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http://www.champress.net/index.php?q=ar/Article/view/106039
November 17th, 2011, 11:19 am
jad said:
Abukhalil collection for today:
Violence against regimes
So much for Gene Sharp and his inspiration. “In Washington, a State Department spokesman, Mark C. Toner, said the United States had little information about the attack, and he laid the blame for it on the Assad government’s crackdown.” Wait: if the US government is blaming violence against the Syrian regime on the Syrian regime, would it also blame violence against the Zionist regime on the Zionist regime?
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil
Al-Quds Al-`Arabi
““Nobody can predict what will happen next,” said an editorial Wednesday in Al Quds Al Arabi, a pan-Arab newspaper based in London. “But what we can be sure about is that the time for diplomatic solutions has come to an end.”” I think that Nada Bakri forgot to add that Al-Quds Al-`Arabi is Qatari-funded.
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil
`Ar`ur in Idlib
There was a rally by the opposition in Idlib the other day. The speakers chanted in praise of the fanatic sectarian Shaykh Al-`Ar`ur. His mention does not appear in any of the Western media coverage of Syria because they really want the readers to believe that Burhan Ghalyun is the real power behind the leadership of the opposition–how I wish that to be true. But Western media did the same in Libya: they promoted the men in suit-and-tie and they feigned surprise when the fanatical religious nuts appeared in the leadership of the government after the collapse of the Qadhdhafi dictatorship. You can’t disturb their propaganda ploy: any references to the religious fanatics is dismissed by orders of the Ikhwan who are putting men (and a woman) in suit-and-tie in the forefront for deception purposes. The rally in Idlib sent one salutation after another to the religious kook, `Ar`ur. I only saw that on New TV, which is probably the only media (East and West) that covers different angles in Syria. (This despite recent decline in the news seriousness of New TV and the trends of appeasement in Saudi Arabia. The channel which had financial ties to Qadhdhafi (and Qatar), covered Libya as if it was critical of the the dictator all along.)
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil
November 17th, 2011, 11:27 am
annie said:
REVLON / Thank you for all that information. This site is decidedly occupied by less than reputable people with a couple of exceptions who bravely hold the fort.
November 17th, 2011, 11:42 am
N.Z. said:
Syria’s last foreign friends, said the raid by the Free Syrian Army was “already completely similar to real civil war.”
Really?
When the Assad thugs had the upper hand, killing innocent Syrian civilians and army personnel who refused shooting orders, where were you Lavrov?
If it was okay for your people to eradicate Communism, why are you denying Syrians their wish for regime change?
Perhaps Lavrov and Assad, should spare us their rants and write a book, philosophizing our Syrian Revolution.
Long live the Free Syrian Army. An army that is doing what it is supposed to do, protect Syrians, not Assad and his crony.
November 17th, 2011, 11:45 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
I like it when prime mnhebak Jad quotes Angry Arab when it suites him, and doesn’t quote Angry Arab’s venomous criticism of the Syrian junta, when it doesn’t suite him.
Abu Khalil has an hierarchy of hate: On top on all others, with a huge margin, comes the usurping entity – the Zionist regime. Then there are the “houses”. House of Saud, house of Ziad and the house of Queen YouTube. In the 3rd place, there is Amrica, the west, their Arab “stooges” and the Zionist medias. Only then come all the rest (including the Syrian and other Arab juntas).
So I would take As’ad Abu Khalil’s writing with a pitch of salt.
.
November 17th, 2011, 12:05 pm
bronco said:
Tara #314
There is no doubts that the ‘revolution’ is home-grown. It has happened in Arab countries and somehow in the West too.
But it has been immediately exploited by some western countries as the best opportunity they ever had to get rid of the only Arab country adamantly opposed to the US hegemony in the region.
In a way the revolutionaries’s ideals have become the trojan horse to the neutralization of Syria under Bashar Al Assad to bring it in line with the other obedient Arab countries.
An early acceptance by the local opposition to negotiate with the regime a gradual move to democracy, as it happened in Spain, would have avoided the bloodbath, but the weakness of the local opposition, the stubborness of the regime and the emergence of an western-fed expat opposition under Turkey sponsorship pursuing their agenda of a regime change favorable to the US and Israel has escalated the matter on the ground.
The surprise to them and the western countries is that, despite the multitude of sanctions and threats, the regime is still very strong and determined to fight back to preserve his acquired political assets and to counter the plot to reduce Syria to another Arab puppet.
Now the situation is becoming increasingly worrying to the Western countries with the intrusion of armed militias whose composition is unknown. Either the Western countries engage militarily and expose themselves to more expenses and unsure results, or they allow the Sunni Islamic militias, under the cover of the FSA, to overthrow Bashar al Assad in a series of bloody terrorists acts that would later threaten the neighbors and most of all Israel, or they accept to leave the regime of Bashar in power as its now on the way to reforms and seriously shaken and weakened enough so he would not play anymore his role as the defensor of the Resistance. Because of that, Syria’s relation with Iran will change as Iran will not be able to support Hezbollah through Syria anymore. In addition Turkey’s new strong position on Israel and its declared effort to help the Palestinians diplomatically is also making the Resistance somehow irrelevant.
The next few days will show if the US is really changing its approach or not and how the the Arab league will translate this in their decisions.
November 17th, 2011, 12:14 pm
5 dancing shlomos said:
the real police state:
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/police-state-tactics-signs-point-to-a-coordinated-national-program-to-try-and-unoccupy-wall-street-and-other-cities/
Police State Tactics: Signs Point to a Coordinated National Program to Try and Unoccupy Wall Street and Other Cities
Dave Lindorff – 11/15/2011
The ugly hand of the federal government is becoming increasingly suspected behind what appears to be a nationwide attempt to repress and evict the Occupation Movement.
Across the country in recent days, ultimatums have been issues to groups occupying Portland, OR, Chicago, IL, San Francisco, Dallas, TX, Atlanta, GA, and most recently New York, NY, where the Occupation Movement began on September 17. The two most recent eviction efforts, in Oakland and New York, have been the worst.
The police attacks have had a lot in common. They have been “justified” based upon trumped up pre-textural claims that the occupiers are creating a health hazard, or a fire hazard, or a crime problem, generally on little or no evidence, or there has been a digging up of obscure and constitutionally questionable statutes, for example laws outlawing the homeless. Then the police come in, usually in dead of night, dressed in riot gear and heavily armed with mace weapons, batons, plastic cuffs and tear gas, or even assault rifles in some cases and so-called flash-bang stun grenades–all weapons to be used against peaceful demonstrators.
November 17th, 2011, 12:15 pm
5 dancing shlomos said:
from israel and america with the only emotion we know – hate:
violence in america. violence in iraq. violence in afganistan. violence in pakistan. violence in yemen. violence in libya. violence in somalia and sudan. violence in iran. violence in syria. violence in palestine and lebanon.
the list of countries, peoples attacked by these two parasites and assorted puppet mites is longer.
November 17th, 2011, 12:22 pm
irritated said:
310. Amir in Tel Aviv
Just wait and see what will happen when the Constitution will be prepared with the majority of Moslem Brotherhood. Get ready for a heavy crackdown on any act not conformed to the Sharia.
These are the first and the last days of the ‘sexual’ freedom of expression in the Arab spring. Enjoy.
November 17th, 2011, 12:26 pm
jad said:
‘Cat boy’ prince
Your problem is not with me, your problem is with As’ad Abu Khalil telling the truth about your occupation and the hypocrisy of the Western media, so why don’t you send him an email to whine and bitch instead of annoying us with your worthless tribes of Israel.
November 17th, 2011, 12:31 pm
N.Z. said:
There is a common denominator between all the “shabbeha”, their language is nauseating, here and at home.
Attacking the message, and, not the messenger is a sign of strength.
November 17th, 2011, 12:41 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
TOUCHY
@ 305
Ruined your day?!
Ok, if it helps, that little untitled rhyme @278 was not addressed to you. Guess to whom?
As for Ghalyoun, in a month or so, SNC clowns will be anointing someone with a different family name as the next president of the SNC. Can you do the same with pencil neck and Syria?, say in the next ….. lifetime.
Just don’t take your aggression on a real hamster, it ain’t fair, you know.
…
November 17th, 2011, 12:42 pm
jna said:
Jordan, Arab League Hypocrisy on Syria
Robert Dreyfuss on November 16, 2011
The stunning hypocrisy involved in the Arab League’s condemnation of Syria is nowhere more evident than in the fact that King Abdullah of Jordan, a through-and-through rotten autocrat, has called on the ruler of Syria, Bashar al-Assad, to step down.
“If I were in his shoes, I would step down,” said Abdullah this week.
Well, stay tuned. That might be true soon enough, if a report in this week’s New York Review of Books is correct. Nicolas Pelham, in “Jordan Starts to Shake,” says that protests are growing inside Jordan, and he adds that the king has not exactly been liberalizing the regime. Abdullah, he reports, is losing control of the tribes, the establishment and the people at large, and there’s even dissent within the royal family. Though he’s spent the last couple of years changing governments and prime ministers—and security officials—like dirty underwear, he’s still sliding down hill.
Even though Jordan is limping along on $1 billion per year from Saudi Arabia and another $800 million a year from the United States, Abdullah is losing touch. According to the piece:
[Abdullah] feted delegates from the Davos-based World Economic Forum with a champagne reception in his Dead Sea resort, sealing off public access for miles around the Dead Sea. The pretext for the meeting was ‘creating jobs,’ but bankers warned of the impending bankruptcy if Jordan’s wage bill is not further slashed. The complacent resplendence smacked uncomfortably, noted a doctor, of the latter years of the Shah.
Saudi Arabia, desperate to prop up Jordan (and to overthrow Assad), is going all out to save the kingly ally. And the piece reports that Jordan, which has been invited to join the kleptocracy club led by Saudi Arabia called the Gulf Cooperation Council, sent crack counterinsurgency troops to invade Bahrain this year to put down the anti-government rebellion there. “Some Jordanians complain that they have become the Gulf’s mercenaries,” reports Pelham.
Read Saudi Arabia’s (and Jordan’s) opposition to Assad as part of the Saudi-Iran cold war.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/164637/jordan-arab-league-hypocrisy-syria
November 17th, 2011, 12:47 pm
jad said:
Ghalyounis, how come you are not putting your God’s statements of ‘love&peace’ after he was whacked by the Americans, at least you will sound less pathetic than your comments.
Here you go I’ll put it for you so you can have your ‘menhebak’ moment and calm down, I really feel sorry for Ghalyoun (Toilet in Russian) of having such a lousy menhebakjiyeh who don’t know how to promote meaningful and important message.
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November 17th, 2011, 1:05 pm
irritated said:
Syrian Hamster @327
“someone with a different family name as the next president of the SNC.”
If it’s Radu the Cockroach, I’ll celebrate.
November 17th, 2011, 1:06 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Irritated,
I don’t share your gloom and doom world view.
A poll I read recently showed that 99% of Egyptians don’t want a Sunni style Vilayat-e Faqih political system. Sharia is a part of the way of lives of Muslims. Trying to suppress this way of life will only make it stronger, more resentful.
And frankly, not all aspects of Sharia are so devilish. I like, for example, the Muslim way of the banking system. It is definitely better than the way our banks are doing business.
Sharia is here to stay, if you like it or not. Instead of vilifying the Sharia, it will be wiser to find ways to live with it. To integrate it, reform it, and even adopt the positive elements in the Sharia.
.
November 17th, 2011, 1:16 pm
jad said:
Enjoying the sanctions on all the Syrians yet:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.201223246622074.49294.125041640906902&type=1
November 17th, 2011, 1:19 pm
zoo said:
“Syria won this round,” said Louay Hussein, an opposition figure in Damascus.
Arab League Offers Reprieve for Syria as Toll Rises
By AIDA ALAMI and NADA BAKRI
Published: November 16, 2011
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/world/middleeast/syria-defectors-attack-base-arab-league-suspension.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
RABAT, Morocco — In what amounted to a surprise reprieve, the Arab League offered to send civilian and military monitors to Syria on Wednesday to determine whether it was abiding by a league-brokered peace plan to end the crackdown on the country’s eight-month uprising. The move countered the league’s startling decision five days earlier to suspend Syria.
In a meeting of foreign ministers here in the Moroccan capital, the league offered Syria a new deadline of three days to accept the plan, which calls for the government to withdraw its troops from cities and stop firing on protesters. The move effectively delayed Syria’s suspension, suggesting that the league still believed its plan was viable, despite a death toll this month that activists put at nearly 400.
The league’s move appeared to be a last-ditch attempt at diplomacy, though officials were reluctant to describe it as such. Syria has long played a pivotal role in the 22-member league, and appeared to have been taken aback by Saturday’s decision to suspend its membership. The league did not say what would happen if Syria failed to comply with the latest offer.
“What is happening in Syria is very sad to all of us,” Qatar’s foreign minister, Sheik Hamad Bin Jassim Jabr al-Thani, told reporters in Rabat on Wednesday evening. “We must take difficult decisions and force Syria to respect its obligations.”
“We should stop wasting time while people are getting killed,” he added.
There was no immediate response from the Syrian government. The government of President Bashar al-Assad refused to send a representative to the foreign ministers’ meeting.
The league’s turnabout raised questions about whether an organization long derided in the region as ineffectual, even a joke, could take on a more vigorous role in a tumultuous time. Expelling Syria would have offered the most vivid illustration of the country’s growing isolation, as European and American sanctions accumulate, countries withdraw ambassadors from Damascus and its former interlocutors become sharp critics.
“Nobody can predict what will happen next,” said an editorial Wednesday in Al Quds Al Arabi, a pan-Arab newspaper based in London. “But what we can be sure about is that the time for diplomatic solutions has come to an end.”
France decided to withdraw its ambassador on Wednesday and close its missions in two Syrian cities after the league’s Saturday vote prompted attacks on the diplomatic missions of France, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey. Turkey has already withdrawn the families of its diplomatic staff there, and the American ambassador, citing safety concerns, left last month, though American officials say he will eventually return.
More attacks on diplomatic missions occurred Wednesday. The United Arab Emirates, the national news agency said, condemned an attack on its embassy in Damascus. It said supporters of Mr. Assad threw rocks and debris, and scrawled graffiti on its walls. The Moroccan Embassy was pelted with rocks and eggs, and some reports said that the ambassador was withdrawn.
The vote on Saturday also split the Syrian opposition, with exile groups hailing the move while some dissidents inside Syria worried that it might serve as a pretext for foreign intervention.
“Syria won this round,” said Louay Hussein, an opposition figure in Damascus. “We avoided turning this into an international crisis. Until yesterday, there were indications the Arab League was going to escalate. Our hope was that this would only be a warning.”
“Through sending Arab monitors, we can exercise pressure on the regime,” Mr. Hussein said in a phone interview. “We can uncover its lies and its fabrications.”
The Local Coordination Committees, an opposition group, said that 20 people were killed across the country on Wednesday, with the rising death toll sharpening fears that the uprising might be taking on a more violent character. The group said that 376 people had been killed, among them 26 children, since Syria first said it agreed to the Arab League peace plan on Nov. 2. The United Nations has estimated that more than 3,500 have died since March.
Syria has insisted that it has adhered to the Arab League’s plan. It offered an amnesty to insurgents if they had not committed crimes, and said it released 1,730 prisoners. Arab League officials say tens of thousands remain in detention.
Outside Damascus, the Free Syrian Army, made up of army deserters, claimed responsibility for an attack on a major intelligence installation in Harasta, on the outskirts of Damascus, and said that its fighters had clashed with armed forces in three other suburbs of the capital. On Monday, clashes between defectors and government troops near Dara’a, in southern Syria, are believed to have killed dozens.
Others played down the significance of the assault. The Local Coordination Committees said the attack in Harasta was probably an act of vengeance by protesters who were imprisoned and interrogated there. Another group said that only two rocket-propelled grenades were fired at the building, and that there was no apparent damage.
In Washington, a State Department spokesman, Mark C. Toner, said the United States had little information about the attack, and he laid the blame for it on the Assad government’s crackdown.
“It’s not surprising that we are now seeing this kind of violence,” he said. “We don’t condone it in any way, shape or form, but let’s be very clear that it is the brutal tactics of Assad and his regime in dealing with what began as a nonviolent movement” that are “now taking Syria down a very dangerous path.”
The Turkish foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, joined the Arab League meeting in Morocco. Turkey has played a pivotal role in the crisis, as its relationship with Syria has gone from warm to hostile. Turkey has threatened sanctions, but has not yet imposed them. Mr. Davutoglu said Turkey was satisfied with the league’s decision, but urged Syria to abandon violence.
“The regime should meet the demands of its people,” said Mr. Davutoglu, who tried to broker a peace deal in August, only to see the crackdown gather force. “The bloodshed cannot continue like this.”
Aida Alami reported from Rabat, and Nada Bakri from Beirut, Lebanon. Reporting was contributed by Anthony Shadid and Hwaida Saad from Beirut, Alan Cowell from London, Steven Lee Myers from Washington and Steven Erlanger from Paris.
November 17th, 2011, 1:19 pm
jad said:
SURE!
‘Turkey opposes military action on Syria’
Turkey says it is opposed to a military strike against Syria as a pre-fabricated US scenario to wage war against Damascus is exposed, Press TV reports.
Turkish President Abdullah Gul stressed Ankara’s opposition to any military intervention in Syria, warning that the situation in Iraq and Libya should not be repeated in Syria, according to a statement released by Iranian embassy in Ankara.
Gul made the statement during a meeting with visiting Head of Iran’s Majlis (parliament) National Security and Foreign Policy Committee Alaeddin Boroujerdi, who noted that the reality on the ground in Syria is different from what Western-affiliated media are trying to portray.
Tehran and Ankara should have closer consultation and boost their cooperation to help resolve the crisis in Syria, the lawmaker urged.
Syria has been experiencing a deadly unrest since mid-March and according to the United Nations, over 3,000 people have been killed in the violence. Hundreds of Syrian security forces are among the dead.
The Syrian opposition accuses the security forces of cracking down on what it calls anti-government protesters. But Damascus blames the violence on outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups sponsored by foreign countries.
Meanwhile, informed sources in Syria said of a US scenario that includes attacks on Syrian diplomatic missions abroad and backing terrorist activities within the country.
The US also plans to refer Syria to UN’s human rights commission and the General Assembly later in November as well as the International Criminal Court in an effort to formally declare the Syrian government as a “war criminal,” the sources said.
The scheme also envisages the establishment of a buffer zone inside Syria through NATO-member Turkey and facilitating the supply of weaponry and arms to the so-called ‘contra forces’ inside the country.
The officials said supporting insurgency by Wahhabi extremists based in the Syrian city of Tripoli and instigating a civil war in the country are other parts of the American scenario.
Moreover, the Syrian sources said, the US scheme provides that the Israeli regime, along with Jordan, would also declare their readiness to engage in military operations against Damascus.
The latest discovery comes as the Arab League (AL) announced the suspension of Syria during an emergency session in the Egyptian capital of Cairo on November 12, and called for the imposition of sanctions against the country.
On Sunday, millions of Syrians poured into the streets across the country to condemn the AL decision and its siding with US-led measures against the government of President Assad.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210661.html
November 17th, 2011, 1:22 pm
irritated said:
#331 Amir In Tel Aviv
Banking practices, polygamy and other are in accordance to the Sharia. Sexual freedom western style is certainly NOT. Ask any ‘moderate’ non westernized moslem. Homosexuality and exposed nudity is outlawed and abhored in all Arab countries, I doubt they’ll be allowed in a Sharia based Constitution.
November 17th, 2011, 1:24 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/37164
November 17th, 2011, 1:26 pm
irritated said:
While the FSA claims proudly the attack in Harasta as a success, that’s what the LCC is saying.
“The Local Coordination Committees said the attack in Harasta was probably an act of vengeance by protesters who were imprisoned and interrogated there. Another group said that only two rocket-propelled grenades were fired at the building, and that there was no apparent damage.”
November 17th, 2011, 1:30 pm
Ales said:
They are looking for some Tel Aviv guy…
https://www.interpol.int/Public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Data/2010/52/2010_7052.asp
November 17th, 2011, 1:41 pm
N.Z. said:
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In retrospect, the same could had been said about Saddam the tyrant!
November 17th, 2011, 1:43 pm
jad said:
FREE BASSAM ALKADI
‘Ghalyounis’ go celebrate, Bassam Alkadi is missing:
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November 17th, 2011, 1:47 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Irritated #335,
Sexual freedom western style and homosexuality are certainly NOT allowed in Judaism, as well.
Here is major Joshua Gortler. Openly gay, religious, and an officer in the IDF. In the picture you can see major Gortler with his IDF commander and his husband, in a ceremony when he got his major rank.
http://dover.idf.il/IDF/News_Channels/bamahana/09/22/11.htm
(Google translate this).
What I’m trying to say, is that things can change and reform. Sharia, and live with Sharia, can reform too.
.
November 17th, 2011, 1:52 pm
Ghat Al Bird said:
Another example of who “wins” again in the Middle East would be a civil war in Syria… so far this new effort by the peace lovong Israelis. ISRAEL CALLS FOR US MILITARY TO PROTECT ITS ROBBERY OF LEBANONS OIL http://www.jinsa.org/visiting-fellows/don’t-pass-gas-israel’s-gas-discoveries-are-american-strategic-asset-worth-protecti
The U.S. Navy, which frequently makes port calls in Haifa, should play a strong role in deterring challenges to Israeli gas development. It can also share with its Israeli counterpart its Persian Gulf-honed expertise in protecting shipping lanes, oil rigs, and pipelines.
In mid-October, U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro visited the Solitaire, the world’s largest pipe-laying ship, which is laying underwater pipelines to carry gas from the Tamar field to Israel. On deck, Shapiro expounded that the U.S. was “extraordinarily proud of the energy cooperation this represents between the United States and Israel…all in the service of stronger Israeli economy, stronger Israeli-American economic relations.” Israel’s gas finds can indeed be a strategic, economic, and political boon for Washington, as long as it does not pass on them.
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2011/07/israeli-pipeline-to-greece.html Lebanon has claimed it is off their coast. Their claim is quite likely legitimate, this is a subject I covered previously- Massive Natural Gas resources to spark attack by Israel on Lebanon. Which will be required reading if you’re to understand the ramifications of this hoped for pipeline to Greece.That being war with Lebanon and/or the removal of the government, for one that will be more compliant.Also, possibly, the removal of the Palestinians, once and for all, from Gaza? Or at the very least a timely agreement with a more compliant government? Perhaps, like the agreement that has recently been worked out between the governing bodies of Gaza and the West Bank?You see some of the natural Gas that Israel claims as their own, just happens to fall off the shores of Gaza. Such a problem. Daunting and exasperating I am sure for the land, resource grabbing nation of Israel.
[ED NOTE:Unlike Lebanon, Israel has not signed or ratified the 1982 UN Law of the Sea which is designed to clarify maritime borders between nations; “In cases of dispute, it is usual practice to hand the decision to arbitrators, which are listed by the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea of 1982. Israel isn’t a signatory to the convention .If Israel refuses to define its borders and Lebanon has its defined borders,then technically Israel shouldn’t be allowed to usurp,already existing lebanese maritime boundaries…
November 17th, 2011, 1:59 pm
irritated said:
#341 Amir in Tel Aviv
“What I’m trying to say, is that things can change and reform. Sharia, and live with Sharia, can reform too.”
Unfortunately Sharia cannot be reformed. Shiism (like Iran) allows the “interpretation” of the Sharia in some matters based on ‘logic’ made by a hierachy of clerics( i.e transexuality is legal in Iran). Sunnism, especially Wahabbism forbids such interpretation and can never redefine was is “Haram” or “Halal”. Even though there is Al Azhar theological school in Egypt who could give some theological advices, there is no clerics entitled to do any interpretations.
The Catholic Christian religion is as rigid and has not reformed. The difference is that in western countries religion is separated from religion while in Arab countries is is not.
November 17th, 2011, 2:49 pm
jad said:
Bronco,
This might interest you:
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http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/news/571912/
November 17th, 2011, 2:50 pm
zoo said:
Dozens killed as Syria mulls allowing in foreign observers
2011-11-17 18:12:15
DAMASCUS, Nov. 17 (Xinhua) — Dozens of people, including army personnel, were killed Wednesday in Syria as the country was mulling allowing in foreign observers as the Arab League (AL) demanded, local media and activist groups said.
The Local Coordination Committees, a key Syrian activist network, said that 13 people were killed Wednesday “by security forces” in different parts of Syria, including the central province of Homs, the southern province of Daraa, and the suburb of the country’s capital Damascus.
Another activist group, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said that eight Syrian army personnel were also killed Wednesday in an attack on their checkpoint in a suburban area of the central Hama province. The attack was carried out by armed men believed to be defectors from the government forces.
The activists’ reports could not be independently verified with the absence of an official reaction.
Meanwhile, the private al-Watan newspaper reported Thursday that two rocket-propelled grenades were launched at the air intelligence headquarters in Damascus’ suburb of Harasta early Wednesday, causing only material damage.
The paper said the security personnel and army members chased the attackers, but the latter managed to flee the scene.
An alleged group of army defectors, the so-called Free Syrian Army, reportedly claimed responsibility for the attack.
At a meeting held Wednesday in Morocco, the AL decided to give Syria a three-day deadline to end its “repression” on protestors and allow in foreign observers.
Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim al-Thani said at the meeting that the AL had sent the draft agreement on observers to Syrian government on Wednesday, threatening that Syria would face sanctions if it did not cooperate.
The recently recalled Syrian ambassador to the United States, Imad Mustafa, told Lebanese al-Manar TV Thursday that his country was mulling accepting the AL calls.
Syria has been in unrest for about eight months. Foreign reports said 3,500 Syrians had been killed since the anti- government protests erupted in March, while Syrian government said hundreds of security and army personnel were killed by armed groups backed by a foreign conspiracy with the aim of toppling the current Syrian government.
November 17th, 2011, 2:52 pm
zoo said:
Arab Spring part of ‘US divide-and-conquer plan’
Published: 17 November, 2011, 14:03
http://rt.com/news/arab-spring-divide-conquer-559/print/
The fall of Libya, the riots in Syria, the media attack on Iran are all parts of a global decades-old American plan to take control of all Middle East, believes regional consultant Peter Eyre.
He believes that the operation went into action after 9/11. The terrorist attack on America meant that “no one is going to stop the US; it can bomb wherever it wants.”
The expert says a classified Pentagon document outlined the attack on the region. “It said ‘We are going to take out seven countries in a period of five to 10 years’. And on that list was Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Somalia. And of course the final target was Iran. This is a very well-planned exercise,” Eyre told RT.
“It’s all about geopolitics. It has nothing to do with Iranian nuclear capabilities or whatever,” he added.
Eyre says the whole notion of Arab Spring is in fact an orchestrated funneling of public dissent into a rebellion by special services.
“Look at the Arab Spring. You get people take to the streets en masse. Why are they out on the street? It’s because they’re frustrated with their government. It’s at this vulnerable moment when the special forces and secret service operatives intermingle with the crowd and in some cases become the ‘snipers on the rooftops’ that take out selected innocent victims. The people in the crowd then believe that the government is carrying out this action – and it becomes a rebellion,” he explained.
And Lindsey German from the Stop the War Coalition told RT before America plans another intervention, they should consider the far greater consequences that would beset the entire region.
“We should learn the lesson of Libya, that thousands and thousands of civilians died after the NATO bombing began, and NATO bombing or any other military intervention in Syria will have even more serious consequences because of the regional setup, because the whole question of Iran, the whole question of Israel, will all come to the fore, and I believe will lead to a much more substantial war in the region, which is the last thing that anybody really needs.”
November 17th, 2011, 2:55 pm
Mina said:
Jad
People are now waiting for the results of tomorrow’s big demo against the army in Cairo, and the 28th Nov parliamentary election.
If the MB make a landslide, I bet the West will have no choice than to stick to the Baathists, no matter what happens!
November 17th, 2011, 2:59 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
FREE BASSAM ALKADI
November 17th, 2011, 3:17 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: MINA
RE: “…I bet the West will have no choice than to stick to the Baathists…”
The West won’t help, Meenie. They’re staying out of your train wreck. You’re on your own on this…
http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/07/dialogue-syrian-style.html
November 17th, 2011, 3:34 pm
Khalid Tlass said:
Dr. Landis, this is probably my first comment addressed to you, in which I want to engage in a serious conversation,
I am curious about a few things and maybe you as an academician may help,
It is often repeated by some Syrians, including some on this blog, that a good part of Syria’s urban Sunnis, especially in larger cities in the weat and north-west, like Damascus, Homs, Hama, Aleppo, Idlib and Latakia, are orginally of Turkish extraction, and are migrant traders and craftsmen from Anatolia who moved into the cities during the Ottoman regime, and gradually got “Arabized”. Therefore, the urban Syrian Sunnis are basically Turks, belonging to the Turkish DNA, while the Alawites and other minorities are the indigenous inhabitants ( i.e Phoenicians and Canaanites).
Another evidence used to back this up, is the different way some Arabic sounds are pronounced by urban Syrian Sunnis, which is not only different from Syrian minorities, but from standard Arabic in general – can this be used to prove that Syrian Sunnis are “recently Arabized” ( i.e after the Ottoman suzerainty over Syria starting from the 14th century)
I want to ask you , is this theory plausible ? Has there been any study or research on this subject, or do we have any historic source to confirm that a large part of Syria’s urban population, especially Sunnis, are descendants of Turkish settlers ? Your help in this regard would give us a valuable insight into our history.
And I would be grateful to Alex if he could bring this to Dr. Landis’ notice.
November 17th, 2011, 3:51 pm
jad said:
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November 17th, 2011, 4:18 pm
???? said:
Will Sanctions Bring Down the Syrian Regime?
No, this will
November 17th, 2011, 4:21 pm
Juergen said:
News:Bassam Alkadi is missing in Damascus since yesterday. His wife found the apartment searched and all the computer devices were taken. He was last seen working on a radio program for Sham Fm in Damascus yesterday. We do not know where he is or who has taken him.
Please if you have any information or want to support the search for him please visit the Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/%D8%A7%D8%AE%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%A1-%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%81-%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%B5%D8%AF-%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B6%D9%8A-Bassam-Alkadi-is-missing/292465684110337?sk=wall
November 17th, 2011, 4:25 pm
Shami said:
Juergen from where you came with such a beautiful nickname ?is he your friend or what?
For what reason the regime would target an assadian tool?it could be a way to give him some prestige among the regime made opposition.
Anyway we should wait a little in order to get an accurate version of this fact.
November 17th, 2011, 4:38 pm
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
Observations about Homs by the Governor of Homs province, Ghassan Abdel-Al, in Arabic at http://tishreen.info/_default.asp?FileName=24209607620111115050934 dated 15 Nov 2011:
Rebels armed with guns in Homs have been targeting street cleaners and garbage truck drivers. One of the jobs of those workers has been to remove rubble and other objects put onto the streets by the rebels to block the traffic. Because street cleaning workers have been targeted for assassinations, they have sometimes had to be kept at base and not dispatched to do their normal work in some neighborhoods, according to the Governor of Homs Ghassan Abdel-Al. Rebels in Homs have also been trying to prevent schools from functioning, by firing guns at the schools to terrorize teachers and pupils. They have also been shooting at city ambulences. As reported by the Governor of Homs, hospital statistics show that 3230 people were wounded or killed in Homs province between 25 Mar 2011 and 1 Nov 2011. The Governor added that as part of the management of the danger and the fear, his office has held numerous meetings with all kinds of groups in society, including neighborhood committees, tribal chiefs, commercial and industrial groups, and so on, in order to inform them of the knowledge the government has and to learn from them the problems that they are having, and if it weren’t for these meetings things would be worse than they are. The Governor of Homs also said that the vicious rebels were “riding the wave of justified demands”, using the justified demands as a mask for an attempted coup, but the people of Homs are now fully aware of the nature of the plot. More observations about Homs by the Governor are at the above tishreen.info page in Arabic. I got linked to that from http://newsfromsyria.blogspot.com/
November 17th, 2011, 4:41 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Bassam Al Kadi disappear
the apartment searched and all the computer devices were taken.
It looks it is something the regime will do.,some thing is strange, the last article I read for him , he was calling to kill the protesters.
November 17th, 2011, 4:41 pm
Khalid Tlass said:
It is a drama enacted by the regme to show the SNC in a poor light in front of AL observers.
November 17th, 2011, 4:42 pm
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
Via http://newsfromsyria.blogspot.com/
On 13 Nov 2011, Faruk Lo?o?lu, a deputy chairman of Turkey’s largest opposition party, the Republican People’s Party (CHP), said: “Turkey must stop being a country that is constantly threatening Syria. Turkey must stop taking sides in Syria’s internal unrest.” In addition he said: “If you follow Europe and the United States in making Assad’s removal a policy by itself, then you are dooming Syria to internal conflict. You are telling the people of Syria to solve the issue through violence and bloodshed.” http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=8216turkey-must-put-an-end-to-syria-threats8217-2011-11-14
I fully agree with the above.
November 17th, 2011, 4:50 pm
Will Syria heed the Arab League’s 3-day ultimatum? (The Week) | Cirklenews.com said:
[…] government cutbacks that come with sanctions don’t “usually bring regime-change,” says Joshua Landis at Syria Comment. They certainly never worked in Iran, Iraq, Libya, or Sudan, nor do they seem to be having much […]
November 17th, 2011, 4:51 pm
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
Half of Syria’s exports to Arabic-speaking countries go to just two countries, Iraq and Lebanon. The governments of Iraq and Lebanon are saying they won’t impose trade sanctions against Syria no matter if other Arab League countries decide to do so. The position of the foreign minstry of Algeria is riddled with contradictions, but it appears to be still saying it will not impose trade sanctions on Syria. The value of Syria’s exports to Algeria is equal to the combined value of Syria’s exports to Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, UAEmirates, Qatar, and Bahrain. If most of the Arab League countries were to decide in favour of very comprehensive trade sanctions against Syria’s exports, it would cause some significant short-term disruption in Syria, but the adverse effect would heal up with time. The bite of such sanctions would cause some pain but the bite cannot go deep. Arab League trade sanctions aimed at Syria’s imports would be far less disruptive to Syria than sanctions aimed at Syria’s exports. Some related data: SYRIA’S EXPORTS & IMPORTS BY COUNTRY IN YEAR 2008.
In short, Syria shouldn’t be afraid of trade sanctions by Arab League countries. I do not want Syria to sign another “memorandum of understanding” with the Arab League unless there’s an explicit agreement that the Syrian government has a natural duty to enforce law and order, security, and general stability in Syria. The “memorandum of understanding” dated 2 November was not a memorandum of understanding.
November 17th, 2011, 4:54 pm
son of damascus said:
@ khaled Tlass
Syria is a country with a rich history, especially the two largest cities (Aleppo, Damascus). Historically the trade routes from Asia went through these two cities to Europe (The Silk Road, The Spice Road), with that brought merchants from all over the known world at the time, that settled in these two great cities. Many people from the country side moved to the cities in times of war, and hardships (just as they do today). Plus if you add all the empires that have conquered Syria (Levant Region) through out history you end up with a melting pot full of different ethnics, religions, creed, traditions and so on.
If you look at the family names in the two largest cities you will notice that many of them are of geographical locations i.e. Daghestani, Tikriti, Cheechani, Maghrebi, Entabi, Hindi, …
Think of our merchant cities as New York City (but much older), you have all colours and creeds, different neighbourhoods (China town, Little Italy, Little Jamaica, ….) Now look at Damascus (Old) (Haret El- Yahood, Bab Touma, …).
What I’m trying to say is that Syria has not one rightful owner, but many which is its people, wether Christian, Sunni, Shiite, Druze, Kurd,Turk, Jew, Allawi, or whatever else our rich country has to offer.
As for the accents your argument makes no sense at all, the vernacular changes geographically all over the world even in the New World. i.e. Canadian VS American, or southern accent vs Northerner, even closer Boston and New York.
Don’t be offended if either Alex, or Dr. Landis don’t read your comment. I highly doubt that either one of them goes through all the comments, if you want to bring something to their attention they have their respective emails posted up top.
November 17th, 2011, 4:59 pm
mjabali said:
An important Article by Burhan Ghaliyoun dated 11/17/2011 that should be shared on this great blog ….
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I. Mjabali Say please stop all types of violence, the only way to bring change should be through peaceful means and eventually by VOTING. Election is the ONLY way to bring change the right way. Violence is bringing violence and the worst form of sectarianism.
November 17th, 2011, 5:05 pm
Tara said:
Bronco
You are right. Double talk.
Canada hosting Syria government websites
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/technology/11784412/canada-hosting-syria-government-websites/
OTTAWA (AFP) – Canada is hosting websites of the Syrian government in a possible breach of sanctions over a deadly crackdown by President Bashar al-Assad’s forces, Canadian researchers said Thursday.
An investigation by a University of Toronto group that last year uncovered a China-based online spy network found that the websites of Syria’s ministries of culture, transport and others, as well as Syrian television Addounia TV are being hosted on Canada-based web servers.
All of them are subject to Canadian sanctions, but a Canadian government official was not immediately available to comment on the revelations.
“Our findings peel back the layers of a complex, highly nuanced, and often seamy world of web hosting,” said Ron Deibert, director of the university’s Citizen Lab.
“That Syrian government websites, including a Syrian state-backed television station known to be inciting violence, are hosted in Canada, is at minimum in contradiction to Canada’s stated foreign policy and possibly material support to a regime that is now globally condemned for its repression and violence.”
Addounia TV is sanctioned by Canada and the European Union for inciting violence against Syrian citizens.
It and several Syrian ministries have been using intermediary companies such as Platinum Incorporated, which have servers in Canada, seemingly to get around the sanctions, the Citizen Lab said in a statement.
The Citizen Lab in 2010 uncovered a China-based network which had stolen Indian military secrets, hacked the Dalai Lama’s office and computers around the world in an elaborate cyber espionage scheme.
It has now also disclosed evidence that the website of the media arm of Hezbollah — which is banned in Canada as a terrorist group — is also hosted on Canadian and US-based web servers and uses Canadian servers to stream its television broadcasts globally.
Al-Manar satellite broadcasts have been banned by the United States, France, Spain, and Germany as well as the European Union.
November 17th, 2011, 5:09 pm
Dale Andersen said:
From the EU/CIA/JewJEW/Saudi/Salafi/Hariri Press:
“…a draft resolution backed by Arab and European countries and the United States was submitted Thursday to the United Nations General Assembly, seeking to condemn human rights violations by the regime in Syria.
Jordan, Morocco, Qatar and Saudi Arabia were among Arab states that joined Germany, Britain, and France to sponsor the draft submitted to the Assembly. In Washington, State Department spokesman Mark Toner said the USA would sign on as a co-sponsor…”
http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/04/arab-news-fox-news-style.html
November 17th, 2011, 5:12 pm
Tara said:
Syria a sinking ship
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1072/pr2.htm
The escalating crisis in Syria and the Arab League decision to suspend Damascus’s membership unless Bashar Al-Assad halts his bloody crackdown on protesters was the focus of pundits this week.
In the London-based Al-Hayat newspaper Ghassan Charbel wrote in his article ‘The excessive use of force and the excessive alliance’ that the Syrian regime has paid the price for the excessive use of force against protesters. The Syrian regime, adds Charbel, is also paying the price “for its adherence to the excessive alliance with Iran.”
Charbel contends that the widespread Arab rejection of the official Syrian account of the events on the ground weakens Damascus’s position in this new chapter of the crisis.
However, he wrote, the angry Syrian response to the rejection of its side of the story does not help in finding a way out of the crisis, but rather exacerbates it.
“Angry responses mean sliding into a major confrontation over the future in Syria and the balance of power in the region. Time is short. Avoiding a major battle requires quick, bold and painful Syrian decisions that address the excessive use of force and the excessive alliance with Iran,” Charbel wrote.
Also in Al-Hayat, Jihad Al-Khazen wrote that he no longer knows “whether President Al-Assad is aware of the magnitude of his losses in only eight months, whether he can perform a miracle to save his people and his regime, or if Syria will take the road of blood and tears towards the unknown.”
Al-Khazen noted that the Arab League does not enjoy the mechanisms to carry out its decisions — as is the case with the United Nations and its organisations — which is why it is always accused of impotence during critical and historic times.
However, Al-Khazen explains, the League’s decision last Saturday features a moral value and important meanings, while its repercussions will definitely lead the Syrian crisis towards a new phase in which the noose will be tightened around the regime’s neck.
“It marked a clear stand against this regime and an undeniable stand in favour of its opponents,” Al-Khazen wrote.
Al-Khazen added that the League’s call on the opposition factions to meet and agree over a unified vision for the next transitional phase not only unifies this opposition but also responds to Western questions surrounding the possible alternative for the existing regime, its political identity and positions towards the numerous files linked to the Syrian crisis domestically and abroad.
“This ought to reassure the international community with regard to the future and direction of the desired change,” wrote Al-Khazen.
In the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat, Tariq Al-Homayed pointed out three important Arab positions adopted at the Arab League meeting on Syria — Iraq’s decision not to vote on the resolution, and both Lebanon and Yemen voting against it.
Al-Homayed believes the Yemeni position is clear because the regime itself is in the eye of a storm, having been rejected by its people and the international community.
“Therefore, it is natural that it should stand in line with Al-Assad in a battle to stay in power,” Al-Homayed wrote.
As for the Lebanese, Al-Homayed added, the issue is more about “subordination to Iran and its agents, whether Hizbullah or the Al-Assad regime, and it is well known that the current Lebanese government is a trinity made up of Iran, Syria and Hizbullah,” Al-Homayed wrote.
Al-Homayed, however, notes that the Iraqi position is something of a development.
“Indeed a positive development, for which we should thank and praise the Kurds. The Kurdish stance prevented the Al-Maliki government from voting against the Arab resolution, and so it abstained instead,” wrote Al-Homayed.
In his article ‘When Bashar Al-Assad blinked first’ Hussein Shobokshi wrote that “the Syrian regime has turned into a frantic monster that behaves without logic, awareness or perception, and has lost all the requirements of human sense.”
In Asharq Al-Awsat Shobokshi added that the Syrian regime’s sole objective now is to “save the ruling family, not even the regime or the Baath Party, and so, all its means and capabilities will serve this goal.”
Shobokshi added that it is clear that the Syrian regime is under severe pressure, regionally and internationally, and all that remains is a handful of weak allies alongside Iran, which is another state that has begun to lodge veiled criticism.
Of course, Shobokshi explains, the regime is also under intense pressure internally, “for there must be groups or individuals within the regime or its institutions who believe that the current leadership is steering the whole ship towards a collision with the rocks, whereby all will drown unless they start to jump ship now.”
“When this happens, and perhaps soon, there will be some who think that the door is about to close, and that the regime has lost its last chance, and that even if it remains in power it will become like the regime of Saddam Hussein in its final year,” Shobokshi concluded.
In the daily Al-Quds Al-Arabi, Abdel-Bari Atwan focused on the weakening of Syrian opposition by infighting.
Atwan wrote that Syrian opposition factions and groups are mistaken if they are relying on the Arab League and its foreign ministers to help them in their effort to topple the Syrian regime and replace it with a modern, democratic state. Atwan explains that this is not because these ministers are unwilling, but because they are unable to help.
Atwan pointed out that the most serious problem facing the Syrian opposition was the worsening divisions among its factions and the unseemly, even abusive language employed among its spokesmen at the height of their disagreements over who is representing the Syrian revolution.
“If they are unable to co-exist peacefully when they number only in the dozens, how will they rule or live together with the millions who might disagree with them inside Syria?” Atwan asked.
November 17th, 2011, 5:16 pm
irritated said:
#360 Majedalkhaldoon
Bassem al Kadi kidnap.
“It looks it is something the regime will do”
Why not the opposition thugs to silence him? Oh no! I forgot, they are angels..
November 17th, 2011, 5:20 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Arab dictators are liers,Saleh of Yemen is the worst, Bashar is similar, Mubarak also was a lier he promised many things and did not do any, Bin Ali was a lier too, Gaddafi told the truth but he was illusional,Saddam was not a lier as much as the rest, Nasser was similar to Saddam .
November 17th, 2011, 5:33 pm
Bronco said:
Tara #368
“Asharq al-Awsat or Al-Hayat, are owned by members of the Saudi royal family.”
It is a mouthpiece for the Saudis. To take with a big spoon of sugar because it is always hateful and bitter for anything not Sunni.
Al-Quds Al-Arabi is populist and pro-palestinian.
“Marc Lynch of Foreign Policy called Al-Quds Al-Arabi “the most populist / ‘rejection camp’ of the major Arab papers.”[9] It is often paired with Asharq Al-Awsat to represent the polar extremes in the pan-Arab press.”
November 17th, 2011, 5:36 pm
irritated said:
#370. majedkhaldoun
Bush, Chirac, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Berlusconi etc.. lied, so what?
Obama promised … and did not deliver, so what?
November 17th, 2011, 5:39 pm
jad said:
It seems that tomorrow will be another ugly day, ‘a street against a street’ strategy will be tested for the first time:
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November 17th, 2011, 5:42 pm
bronco said:
365. mjabali
Ghalioun is living in a country where people think with their mind and give no importance to religion. His speeches may resonate with these people.
But he is giving that speech to people who think with their emotions and give a great importance to religion.
It can’t resonate, it is just noise.
November 17th, 2011, 5:48 pm
zoo said:
The Muslim Brotherhood use the slogan “Islam is the Solution”
for Egypt 28th November parlementary elections
Is Egypt on the road to true democracy?
By Raghda El Halawany Published: 00:00 November 18, 2011
The elections are expected to take five months, with a total of six rounds of voting.
http://gulfnews.com/news/region/egypt/is-egypt-on-the-road-to-true-democracy-1.931179
November 17th, 2011, 6:08 pm
Tara said:
Bronco
Agree that all Middle Easterners think with their emotion first no matter what their education level is. It is a genetic heritage. I believe Persians too. At least from my experience with Persian men who work in my field. Can you explain why you think that Ghalioun’s speech would not appeal to Syrian youth? Because it did not reference God? Do you really think God plays that much role in the life of Syrian youth?
November 17th, 2011, 6:37 pm
Tara said:
Zoo
Could the solution for political Islam be to get Islamic parties to power in a country where there is no multiple religions or sects like Libya or Tunisia through democratic election? They may either fail miserably and that would mean their end OR evolve into something more moderate and that would also mean their end too.
November 17th, 2011, 7:02 pm
The Syria Game of Thrones: Turkey vs. Iran vs. the Saudis in Battle to Shape a Rebellion’s Outcome Read more: http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/11/16/the-syria-game-of-thrones-turkey-vs-iran-vs-the-saudis-in-battle-to-shape-a-rebellions-outcome said:
[…] To the extent that Assad’s repression has pushed the opposition towards an increasingly militarized response, that actually reinforces the regime’s narrative that Syria is in the throes of a sectarian civil war, with Assad casting himself as the protector of Allawites and Christians. On that basis, the regime also appears to have divided the region, with Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen — countries with significant Shi’ite populations, and in the case of Iraq, substantial Iranian influence — having declined to back the original Arab League suspension of Syria. Also, many key leaders of Christian communities in other Arab countries appear to have come out in support of Assad. […]
November 17th, 2011, 7:03 pm
Tara said:
Tomorrow will be called???? ??? ???????
20 including 2 girls were killed by the security forces in Syria on Thursday. Thursday is the first day of the 3 days new deadline given to Bashar by the AL to stop the violence. The regime so far failed miserably. 2 more days to go.
November 17th, 2011, 7:18 pm
zoo said:
#377 Tara
Iran has been under a religious Islamic government since 1976 (35 years) and has not been economically successful.
November 17th, 2011, 7:45 pm
irritated said:
378. Tara said:
“Tomorrow will be called???? ??? ???????
Just as the US ambassador Ford is on his way back?
November 17th, 2011, 7:48 pm
Tara said:
Zoo
Not following. Can you elaborate. Iran is more advanced than any Arab country and they were not involved in Bin Laden- terrorism style and I heard their applications of Shariaa law is somewhat flexible and progressive. So they are not comparable with traditional political Islam. No?
November 17th, 2011, 7:57 pm
zoo said:
“After some debate, it appears Turkey is no longer considering the creation of a humanitarian buffer zone in Syrian territory either”
“Condemnations will continue but the tipping point could be months away
Turkey Anxiously Weighs Cost of Escalation with Syria
November 17, 2011 03:15 PM Age: 5 hrs
By: Matthew Reed
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Turkey’s Syria policy, however, remains tempered by apprehension – the country’s inaction certainly proves this. Erdogan’s populist streak guarantees he will condemn Assad’s brutality, but, after revealing the presence of Syrian rebels in Turkey, the Turkish Foreign Ministry has curbed its bravado. Regardless of threats made months ago, Turkey still has not sanctioned Syria, most likely because Turkey’s business elite stands to lose too. Perhaps most conspicuous of all, Erdogan never fulfilled his promise to visit the refugee camps. Indeed, action remains elusive as officials calculate the cost of escalation. Should Turkey encourage regime change, officials know Syria and Iran – Assad’s only ally – could strike back by supporting the PKK.
Military confrontation remains unlikely although relations are reaching new lows. Striking the PKK would require action in Iraq rather than Syria; and attacking Assad for his encouragement of Kurdish terrorists would risk an all-out war, for which there is no popular support in Turkey. After some debate, it appears Turkey is no longer considering the creation of a humanitarian buffer zone in Syrian territory either. Turkey’s foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, admitted last month that military options were on the table but invasion was not an option (Hurriyet, October 7). Erdogan and the military are also sending different signals. In August, Erdogan referred to Syria as Turkey’s “internal problem” (Milliyet, October 31). Last month, however, Turkey’s Chief of Staff, General Necdet Ozel, disagreed during a television interview, arguing that Syrian unrest was “primarily the internal problem of that country” (Milliyet, October 31).
The prospect of terrorism, the complicated nature of military solutions, and unrealized threats combine to suggest the cost of escalation is still too high for Turkey’s leaders. Condemnations will continue but the tipping point could be months away. The problem for Turkey is that it remains the only neighbor with any leverage; the country enjoys economic ties with Syria, which it could sever, and previous good relations, which it could revive. Other countries will consequently push Turkey towards decisive action, but with military operations being the least likely outcome for now.
Matthew M. Reed is a Middle East specialist at Foreign Reports, Inc., a consulting firm in Washington, DC. More of his commentary can be found at Al Ajnabee, where he writes about the Middle East and U.S. foreign policy. He completed his M.A. coursework at George Washington University in May 2011. The views expressed here are solely his.
http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=38680&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=7&cHash=3a3bd6d3c20a1622c29358fc3ba04ec0
November 17th, 2011, 8:09 pm
zoo said:
#381 Tara
Iran, more than Saudi Arabia, follows political Islam, but it is Shia Islam that has religious and spiritual leaders. Shias also use ‘logic’ to interpret and apply the Sharia. Nevertheless it is a country ruled by Islam, politically, socially and culturally. Check Wikipedia.
It would too long to develop the comparison with other Islamic systems.
November 17th, 2011, 8:11 pm
jad said:
Arab League and Syria: Motives
By As’ad AbuKhalil
There should be some work in categorizing what can only be described as dumb analysis of the Middle East in the West or the East.
In the West, there are indications that some are clearly buying the notion that the Arab League is responding to the people’s aspirations in the region by acting on the Syrian front. In the East, dumb analysis fills the airwaves of the media of the Syrian regime and their affiliates and allies. They are now subscribing to the view that the US has indeed designed and engineered the “Arab Spring” and some, like Rafiq Nasrallah (a Lebanese fixture in Syrian media) are coming out clearly in favor of all current regimes because he worries about the alternatives. In the West, the tendency to praise the Arab League is now fashionable.
The League was never seriously taken. It has been seen rightly either as a tool of the British government or as a useless arena of inter-Arab conflicts. Yet the role of the body has changed since the end of the Cold War. It has become a tool of US foreign policy. The Saudi “peace” initiative was a US plan and the text was most likely conceived in the original English. There were rivalries within the League: the clients of the US always wanted to push the it further in serving US interest, while some other regimes were more cautious, perhaps fearing their own populations. But Saudi Arabia has managed to put the League under its control: with the overthrow of Mubarak, the League is now an extension of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).
Governments are not in a position to stand up to the GCC: they either need financial help or they need Western cooperation. The Sudan vote in the latest decision on Syria was the most interesting: we no more hear about the arrest warrant for the Sudanese dictator. Clearly, there was a secret deal between the US and the dictator who has several war crimes on his resume. Since he allowed the partition of Sudan (and the creation of a pro-Israeli entity), the Sudanese dictator is now respected.
Yet, the dumb analysis in many Western media is that the Arab League voted to suspend Syria out of respect for democracy and for the peoples of the region. It is not explained in those analyses as to why the people of Syria are being respected and defended when the Yemeni dictator has used tanks and helicopter gunships against the Yemeni peoples and the Arab League has been silent about his crimes. As long as the dictator enjoys GCC cover and sponsorship, killing will be tolerated especially because the dictator is an obedient servant of the US.
The Arab League acted only because the US failed to obtain a vote in the Security Council. The League is now a useful tool for US foreign policies and wars. The irony is that the League (under the former clownish direction of Amr Mousa) gave legitimacy to NATO bombing of a member state and has now gotten in the business of surrendering the “joint defense” of the Arabs to an outside force. Arab countries in the League are all committed to the “Joint Defense Pact” which has been ignored in numerous inter-Arab wars and in foreign invasions against one Arab state, with the support of some Arab states.
Let us remember that the Syrian regime has no credibility in this matter at all, as it joined the US coalition in 1990-91 to attack Iraq and its army. The same game that the Syrian government is complaining about, was perfected by the Saudi, Egyptian, and Syrian regimes in 1990.
The Arab League’s motives are not related to the plight of the Arab uprisings. They are part of US regional orders. They are also part of the rising ambition of the emirate of Qatar (more on this factor in the next article): it now wants to prove to the US that it can be as subservient and loyal to US imperial interests as Saudi Arabia and Jordan. Qatar, in other words, is proving its usefulness to the US (and Israel). The Arab League has proven that it can only be allowed to be relevant to the extent to which it can strictly follows US dictates. That is why it is preferable that the Arab League remain irrelevant.
http://english.al-akhbar.com/blogs/angry-corner/arab-league-and-syria-motives
November 17th, 2011, 8:15 pm
Tara said:
Irritated
Why not.? If Syrian Ambassadors got expelled, the regime should reciprocate if the government has some self-respect.
Zoo @ 383
Don’t you worry about it. Please feel free to continue to post links to articles discussing non-Syrian affair like the one in 375 that I responded to. I find them interesting.
November 17th, 2011, 8:24 pm
jad said:
What a ‘humanist’ Sultan, promoting his ‘humanist’ war with the help of the usual barking choir:
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November 17th, 2011, 8:25 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Irritated
You said that Mr. Ford is on his way to Syria, How long his trip will take? would he be there before or after the end of Bashar?
November 17th, 2011, 8:52 pm
irritated said:
Tara #385
The call for western countries to expel the Syrian ambassadors will be as successful as the numerous call for “General strikes” , ” WE WANT NATO” and “NO FLY ZONE” etc…
Dead ear…
November 17th, 2011, 8:52 pm
Norman said:
377. Tarasaid:
Zoo
Could the solution for political Islam be to get Islamic parties to power in a country where there is no multiple religions or sects like Libya or Tunisia through democratic election? They may either fail miserably and that would mean their end OR evolve into something more moderate and that would also mean their end too.
Tara,
The problem is not that they might get to power, the problem that they will do what the Baath party did in Syria it felt that they are the only ones that can protect Syria so they decided that they should stay forever and we see where we are, the Islamic parties will do the same thing and think that they are God’s gift to the people and are entitled to stay in power and that is why i want a strong army that can push away the party that loses power.
November 17th, 2011, 8:55 pm
irritated said:
Majedalkhaldoon #387
Thanksgiving is on the 25th November 2011. Ford promised he’ll return and bring his turkey to share with his staff in Damascus.
Maybe he is a liar too?
I guess Bashar would still be here next week and many months after.
November 17th, 2011, 8:58 pm
Tara said:
Norman
I don’t want them to get to power in Syria either. Syria will only thrive with a secular government. I was hoping they get to power in another homogeneous country where they either fail or evolve , a phase I find important for political Islam to go through enlightenment then cease to exist.
November 17th, 2011, 9:13 pm
Norman said:
Tara,
Gullion warned recently about civil war, at least he seems to acknowledge that, he even said that people in the opposition are killing each other, can you believe what will happen if the Syrian government collapses, Lebanon and Iraq would look like heaven in comparison, we have to remember that the Syrian army stopped the Lebanese war and the American army was in Iraq to stop that war, Syria will have nobody of power if the Syrian army and government are absent,
November 17th, 2011, 9:20 pm
Revlon said:
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This has been another of Mr Ghalioun’s, unfortunate statements.
National sentiment is a luxury he and his SNC members can afford to brag about. Thousands of activists are rotting in jail because they breached Jr’s version of the same National Sentiment.
The struggling demonstrators and their families have no time for such crap! They need to defend their own and their families lives and living.
They are not fighting for a higher national purpose. They are fighting to earn back their God given right to be free.
Mr. Ghalioun has misrepresented his constituency; The revolution.
He mischaracterized certain, unspecified actions on the ground as acts of aggression!
Armed responses in Homs, and elsewhere in Syria, have been strictly carried out by units of the FSA, not civilian demonstrators.
Such actions should be regarded by the FSA, as they are regarded by revolution’s ground forces, defensive and aim at saving lives, deterring the occupying mob forces, and ridding their living from tyranny.
While certain FSA operations might seem offensive, they always come with the goal of saving or freeing of civilians that were kidnapped and became at risk of being killed by Asad’s mob.
A clarification and apology ought to be issued to repair the damage.
Any communiqué issued by the SNC, including the president, must be congruent with, and reflective of the views from the trenches.
November 17th, 2011, 9:29 pm
Norman said:
256. louaisaid:
Norman was it you who wrote this article?
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http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=140100
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November 17th, 2011, 9:32 pm
zoo said:
Iraq’s Sadr supports Syrian president
Senior Iraqi cleric and prominent political figure, Muqtada al-Sadr, expresses strong support for Syrian president amid Damascus’ efforts to curb the deadly domestic unrest it is facing.
There is “a big difference” between what is happening in Syria and the revolutions in “Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, and Yemen,” Sadr said in a statement, AFP reported on Thursday.
“One of the reasons behind this difference is that [Syrian President] Bashar al-Assad is against the American and Israeli presence and his attitudes are clear, not like those who collapsed before him, or will collapse,” the statement read.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210699.html
November 17th, 2011, 9:34 pm
Tara said:
Norman
Yes I now believe that civil war appears inevitable if Assad remains in power if it has not already started. What supporters are failing to understand is that the opposition welcomed the dialogue with the “regime” as long as Bashar is toppled. It really is boiling down to one thing and one thing only: BASHAR. Hundreds of thousand might be killed because of this one person. The solution is for him to step down, the opposition will then enter in a dialogue with the “regime” to a goal of peaceful transition. This will avert the civil war and the foreign intervention.
Intelligent people are those who can assess the situation and cut their losses. The demonstrators have nothing to lose. They are already dead or content with the possibilities of dying anytime going out to demonstrate. If civil war to occurs, others will die too in massive number for many years.
Bashar should be removed from the equation for the Syria to resurrect itself otherwise, it does appear very grim.
November 17th, 2011, 9:43 pm
irritated said:
Norman
Turkey will pacify Syria and probably annex it…
November 17th, 2011, 9:46 pm
Tara said:
Action possible in Syria: US adviser
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=action-possible-in-syria-us-adviser-2011-11-17
Thursday, November 17, 2011
?PEK YEZDAN? –
ISTANBUL – Hürriyet Daily News
An international intervention in Syria is likely, if the crackdown continues
in the country, according to Obama’s intelligence adviser who claims President al-Assad would be toppled in the end because his people hate him
If things continue as they are in Syria, an international intervention like in Libya may be possible, according to Chuck Hagel, co-chairman of U.S. President Barack Obama’s Intelligence Advisory Board and chairman of the Atlantic Council.
“If things continue to go as they are in Syria, more innocent Syrian civilians are killed and Assad remains in power, then you may well see some international intervention,” Hagel told the Hürriyet Daily News yesterday.
Hagel, who participated in the Black Sea Energy & Economic Forum organized by the Atlantic Council in Istanbul, spoke to the Daily News on the sidelines of the conference. Hagel said he believed the Assad government would be toppled in the end. “He cannot maintain his ability to govern his country with the sanctions and no friends and no allies, in a country that is erupting. His people hate him and eventually he will go, that cannot be sustained.”
Hagel said the original point of international intervention in Libya was a human rights issue to protect innocent civilians with the authority of the United Nations, and a similar path followed in Libya could also be possible for Syria.
“It also depends on how long this goes on. The processes that have been used in Syria were mainly trying to peacefully influence the outcome of the sanctions, using all diplomatic, economic and trade influences, powers and authorities that Arab League countries have. Especially the Arab League’s and Turkey’s positions now with Syria are quite significant. Assad now finds himself essentially isolated in the world. Assad has no support anywhere in the world,” Hagel said.
Hagel said he was in favor of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an’s stance toward Syria. “I admire Prime Minister Erdo?an’s courage and directness on the position he is taking against Assad. The reality is that what comes after Assad and – that is just a matter of time- that new government might need the Turkish relationship. That relationship with Turkey will be very important for the future of Syria,” Hagel said.
Hagel also said the U.S.’s and Turkey’s policies match pretty well in the Arab Spring process. “Turkey and the U.S. have been together on supporting the same policies and in their strategic interests. I know President Obama and Prime Minister Erdo?an talk very often. They talk about Syria, possible strategies; they talk about how best to handle this. Of course that is what allies do. In the end Turkey will take its positions based on its own reasons,” Hagel said.
November 17th, 2011, 9:49 pm
Tara said:
New development: China, open to international action on Syria
“With the Arab League’s push apparently unheeded on the ground, the international community has moved to raise pressure. French, German and U.K. diplomats at the United Nations introduced a resolution Thursday to single out Syria’s human-rights record. China, which along with Russia has blocked past efforts by the U.N. Security Council to condemn the regime’s crackdown, indicated on Thursday it may be open to international action.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204517204577044421058621062.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
By NOUR MALAS
Reuters
Col. Riad al-As’ad vowed to protect civilians.
“We are responding to escalation with escalation,” Col. Riad al-As’ad, the leader of the Free Syrian Army, said by telephone from Turkey.
Thursday’s strike, a mark of the dissident soldiers’ increasingly open departure from the long-peaceful nature of the rest of Syria’s protest movement, came as the Assad regime continued crackdowns on protesters.
The clashes came a day after Arab-world leaders’ latest ultimatum to President Assad—a threat of economic sanctions and other unspecified measures if his government doesn’t halt violence by Saturday—appearing to mark a rapidly closing window toward negotiating an end to the conflict.
With the Arab League’s push apparently unheeded on the ground, the international community has moved to raise pressure. French, German and U.K. diplomats at the United Nations introduced a resolution Thursday to single out Syria’s human-rights record. China, which along with Russia has blocked past efforts by the U.N. Security Council to condemn the regime’s crackdown, indicated on Thursday it may be open to international action.
Col. As’ad, the leader of the Free Syrian Army, said his group won’t back down as the government decides whether it will comply with the Arab plan. He also said his group will no longer wait for support from Syria’s political opposition, who have advocated nonviolence and say they are waiting to see if the government responds to the three-day deadline set Wednesday.
Most opposition activists don’t expect the government will accept any cease-fire in earnest, and many have openly called for some kind of international protection for civilians.
“The Syrian people are not waiting for the decision of the Arab League or the international community,” Col. As’ad said. “They waited eight months and saw nothing but more and more blood.”
Col. As’ad spoke after the dissident army announced one of its battalions had carried out a “sophisticated operation” using rocket-propelled grenades against a political security building in Zabadani, northwest of Damascus, causing some damage to the building and injuring security forces.
On Wednesday, the group said it was creating a military council to oust Mr. Assad and claimed responsibility for an attack on an air-force intelligence center near Damascus. The security branches targeted in the two attacks have played a big role in the crackdown, activists say.
It wasn’t immediately possible to corroborate details of the attack. Reporters are still largely barred from Syria’s areas of uprising.
Col. As’ad, who has united two groups of soldiers under one army, said he commands 22 battalions of troops, who defected with their light weapons and number in the “tens of thousands.” Diplomats and analysts say those estimates appear high.
Still, the rising tolls among both the military and defected soldiers this week appears to reflect fierce fighting between the sides.
Of 19 people reported killed by security forces on Thursday, four were defected soldiers, according to activist group the Local Coordination Committees. Defected soldiers also attacked a government building in Maaret al-Numaan, in the northwestern Idlib province, on Thursday where security forces were holding a meeting, the U.K.-based Syrian Observatory For Human Rights said.
Syria’s government on Thursday acknowledged the new Arab League deadline, which also calls for Syria to admit international observers. But Syria made no indication whether it would accept.
A statement on the state news agency said Arab foreign ministers meeting in Morocco on Wednesday had sent “a legal and regulatory memo to the Syrian Foreign Ministry on signing a protocol to send observers to Syria.” An Arab League observers’ delegation would be sent to Syria after it signed the protocol, within three days, the statement said.
A dissident soldier under Col. As’ad echoed the same impatience with the Arab deliberations. “We consider this initiative dead,” he said by telephone from inside Syria. “Let the government implement just one clause of the Arab League plan, and we will stand down.”
Col. As’ad said his group’s push to organize came after they failed to secure support from Syria’s political opposition. Weeks ago, the dissident army appealed to the Syrian National Council—which has so far served as the face of Syria’s opposition—to merge. Such a move would essentially make his group the military arm of a broad antigovernment coalition. Those discussions didn’t bear fruit, he said.
“Their political vision so far is unclear,” he said. “We haven’t agreed on any measures of cooperation.”
The council has pitched the idea of a “buffer zone” inside Syria, along the northern border with Turkey, for dissident soldiers and civilians fleeing violence.
Syria’s exiled Muslim Brotherhood, the largest anti-regime group, voiced its support for that idea Thursday but said it would prefer any military support for the idea not come from Western powers or the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
“We’re not calling for foreign intervention. But if the regime’s continued violence brings that upon us, then of course we would prefer an Arab or Turkish intervention,” said Riad Shaqfa, the group’s leader, by telephone from Turkey.
Turkey’s foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu suggested Turkey wasn’t eager to intervene militarily in Syria. “We should not give the impression of foreign imposition,” Mr. Davutoglu said at a conference. “Neither Turkey, nor NATO, nor any other country will impose a solution on Syria.”
Turkish officials have denied consistent reports that they are preparing to impose a military buffer zone inside Syrian territory, although they have left open the possibility should a flood of refugees try to cross the border. Turkish officials also say Ankara is unwilling to step out alone to take more drastic action against Damascus. On Thursday, Mr. Davutoglu called for a “multilateral” approach by the international community.
The draft U.N. resolution introduced by Germany, France, and the U.K., and backed by some Arab countries, “condemns the continued grave and systematic human rights violations by the Syrian authorities” and calls on Damascus to implement the Arab League plan without delay. It is expected to receive the required two-thirds majority needed for passage, according to diplomats, who said it would likely come to a vote at the General Assembly on Tuesday.
The General Assembly, where each of the 193 member-countries has equal representation, rarely targets a single country, say U.N. diplomats. But the General Assembly has passed similar resolutions condemning North Korea, Iran and Myanmar for human-rights abuses.
The resolve of Arab states to censure Mr. Assad, combined with a General Assembly resolution, could put further pressure on the U.N. Security Council, where a rare double-veto by Russia and China last month blocked a resolution that condemned the government’s use of force and hinted at sanctions.
There were signs Thursday that Beijing might be open to action against Syria. Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin said a potential resolution at the Security Council, where China holds permanent-member status, must contribute to pushing for a political resolution to ongoing unrest and contribute to the stability of the entire Middle East.
“Whether the U.N. and its Security Council will adopt further action should depend on whether it contributes to an easing of Syria’s tense situation, whether it contributes to pushing for a resolution of differences through political dialogue, and whether it contributes to safeguarding the peace and stability of the Middle East,” Mr. Liu said at a daily press briefing in Beijing.
A U.N. Security Council diplomat, referring to the Arab League ultimatum, put the new calculus for Moscow and Beijing more starkly: “It will be increasingly difficult for the Russians and Chinese to be more protective of an Arab country than the Arabs themselves are,” this person said.
November 17th, 2011, 10:15 pm
Ghufran said:
In terms of victims of this crisis,what was true in March is not true in November.
According to opposition sources,not Sana or regime media,over 30% of those who died were from the army and security forces,this percentage was lower in the spring and higher now,so this uprising is by any definition a militarized or an armed one.
Syrians will either continue to kill each other with no end in sight or sit down and figure out a political solution. Refusing to negotiate directly with Bashar and insisting on a road map that ends with free elections and the resignation of Bashar is acceptable to most Syrians,but sidelining those who stayed quiet and did not support the uprising is an invitation for more division and violence. Remember that for a regime to rule Syria for 41 years,more than sectarian loyalty and oppression was needed,this regime still has support among urban Sunnis and a lot of support among non Sunnis,and those people should have a voice in any upcoming dialogue,the SNC does not represent all Syrians,even Ghalioun does not seem to be able to please the islamists in his own council.
November 17th, 2011, 10:19 pm
Ghufran said:
Jonathan Steele
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/17/syria-mediation-arab-league-assad
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November 17th, 2011, 10:27 pm
Norman said:
Tara Said,
The solution is for him to step down, the opposition will then enter in a dialogue with the “regime” to a goal of peaceful transition. This will avert the civil war and the foreign intervention.
Tara,
That is exactly the problem as all the Syrians who support him and i do not want to bug you and tell that they are the majority, will not take that without a clear vision of where Syria is going and the system that the opposition want that can get them out of power when they lose,
The way i see the solution is for the opposition, all of them not only the SNC to sit with the regime, Government, Baath party, and president and have a plan for a time for parliamentary elections , followed by presidential election, they can ask and deal and aim for the president not to run in the next presidential election ,as set by the Syrian constitution, they can also set the condition for these elections and agree on monitoring body,for them, but to force their demands on the government and the Syrian people that do not agree with them will not fly as these demands of theirs are the cause for the civil war that they aim for,
November 17th, 2011, 10:31 pm
irritated said:
Buffer zone YES? Buffer zone NO?
Military intervention YES? Military intervention NO
It’s a civil war? YES It is a civil war? NO
Bashar will step down? Yes, Maybe, No
AL is brilliant, Al is useless
The Western countries and the medias seem more confused then ever. Thank God there is the Human rights at the UN to fall on: so.. another resolution condemning violence and calling to stop it, and then what?
November 17th, 2011, 10:42 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Ghufran
You said according to opposition figures the number of soldiers who died represent 30% of those killed
Would you give us your source.
The demonstrations are peaceful , this is not a militarized demonstrations as you claim.
November 17th, 2011, 10:52 pm
jad said:
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November 17th, 2011, 10:53 pm
zoo said:
Ghufran #401 Thanks. A article that shows some sense in the warmongering, calls for revenge and disdain for human lives.
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Syria needs mediation, not a push into all-out civil war
By Jonathan Steele
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/17/syria-mediation-arab-league-assad/print
By suspending a country in crisis, the Arab League is giving Assad’s regime fewer peaceful ways out of a dangerous corner
Syria is on the verge of civil war and the Arab League foolishly appears to have decided to egg it on. The spectre is ugly, as Qatar and Saudi Arabia, the hawks of the Gulf, are joined by the normally restrained King Abdullah of Jordan in taking sides with opponents of Syria’s Assad regime.
Where common sense dictates that Arab governments should seek to mediate between the regime and its opponents, they have chosen instead to humiliate Syria’s rulers by suspending them from the Arab League.
It is no accident that the minority of Arab League members who declined to go along with that decision includes Algeria, Lebanon and Iraq. They are the three Arab countries that have experienced massive sectarian violence and the horrors of civil war themselves. Lebanon and Iraq, in particular, have a direct interest in preventing all-out bloodshed in Syria. They rightly fear the huge influx of refugees that would pour across their borders if their neighbour collapses into civil war.
That war has already begun. The image of a regime shooting down unarmed protesters, which was true in March and April this year, has become out of date. The so-called Free Syrian Army no longer hides the fact that it is fighting and killing government forces and police, and operating from safe havens outside Syria’s borders. If it gathers strength, the incipient civil war would take on an even more overt sectarian turn with the danger of pogroms against rival communities.
Moderate Sunnis in Syria are worried by the increasing militancy of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Salafis who have taken the upper hand in opposition ranks. The large pro-regime demonstrations in Damascus and Aleppo over the past week cannot simply be written off as crowds who were intimidated or threatened with loss of jobs if they did not turn out.
Meanwhile, Syria’s large Christian minority cowers in alarm, fearing to share the fate of Iraqi Christians who were forced to flee when sectarian killing heightened the significance of every citizen’s religious identity and began to overwhelm non-Muslims too. In northern Syria the Kurds are also nervous about the future. In spite of the regime’s long-standing refusal to accept their national rights, most fear the Muslim Brotherhood more.
The Assad regime has made mistake after mistake. Stunned by the first protests this spring, it turned too quickly to force. It blocked international media access and censored its own press and TV, thereby leaving the field free for rumour, exaggeration and the distortions of random footage uploaded on to YouTube. Its offers of dialogue with the opposition were hesitant and seemed insincere. The attacks on Arab embassies in Damascus in recent days were stupid.
As a result, the situation has become increasingly polarised. The regime denounces the externally based opposition, the Syrian National Council which came into existence last month, as a puppet of foreign governments. For its part the council refuses to talk to the regime, insisting that Assad must go. It has started to call for a no-fly zone and foreign intervention on the Libyan model, both of which are a further incitement to civil war. The internal opposition has not gone so far but may be pushed in that direction if the situation continues to sharpen.
The need now is for international mediation before it is too late, with an agenda for a democratic transition that would include guarantees of status and protection for all minorities, including the Alawites from whom the ruling elite comes. The risk of a vengeful takeover by the Sunni majority is too great.
To demand the Assad family’s departure is counter-productive unless an amnesty is offered. Why would they want to cede power peacefully when faced with the precedents of Mubarak (trial and imprisonment) and Gaddafi (lynching)? At least the international criminal court has not come into the act, which would make the crisis even worse.
There were signs at the Arab League meeting in Rabat on Wednesday that the organisation may be having second thoughts about its hasty suspension of Syria last Saturday. The decision was unconstitutional because only a summit of Arab leaders can call for a member’s suspension, and the demand must be unanimous. Now the League has delayed implementing it. It has given Syria three days to accept civilian and military monitors to check the situation.
If that were to become a serious effort at mediation, so much the better. The best model is the agreement that ended Lebanon’s civil war, reached after talks in Taif in Saudi Arabia in 1989. Although it was negotiated by the various Lebanese parties and interest groups, Saudi sponsorship and support were important.
Whether Saudi Arabia can play a similar role today is doubtful. Eagerly backed by the Obama administration, the monarchy seems bent on an anti-Iranian mission in which toppling Syria’s Shia-led regime is seen as a proxy strike against Tehran. The Saudis and Americans are working closely with the Sunni forces of Saad Hariri in Beirut, who are still smarting from their loss of control of the Lebanese government this spring.
Turkey tried mediating this summer, but its effort was treated by the Assad regime as duplicitous because Turkey was simultaneously helping the Syrian opposition to organise in Istanbul. Torn between a desire for good relations with its neighbour Iran as well as with Arab Sunni regimes, Turkey has gone over fully to the anti-Assad side. US pressure and Washington’s renewed willingness to turn a blind eye to Turkish military incursions against Kurdish guerrilla bases in northern Iraq may have played a role.
In theory the UN could mediate, but its efforts to broker an end to Libya’s civil war had no support from western members of the security council. With their anti-Assad, no-amnesty stance they seem just as unwilling to seek peace in Syria. Russia alone has had the wisdom to support dialogue and give a strong message to that effect when Syrian oppositionists visited Moscow.
The Arab League could yet appoint a group of eminent independent Arabs to listen to all sides in the Syrian crisis and seek a “new Taif”. The team would have to include Shia as well as Sunni members. But first the Arab League needs to reject the anti-Iranian hysteria that the US, Israel and the Saudis are stirring up along the Gulf. The abyss of all-out civil war in Syria is far more real. And it is very close.
November 17th, 2011, 10:53 pm
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http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionId=2006&articleId=1836&ChannelId=47513&Author=%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AF%20%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%B1
November 17th, 2011, 11:02 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: ZOO
RE: “…There’s a ‘big difference between what is happening in Syria and the revolutions in Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, and Yemen, Iraqi Shi’ite leader Muqtada al-Sadr said…”
Of course there’s a big difference, Zooey.
Those other countries aren’t FOI (Friends of Iran). By the way, next time you see Muqtada, check to make sure the chain on his ankle (the one with the “I love the ayatollah” engraving) is securely locked in place.
Also, tell him, if he expects to be a REAL LEADER, he’s got to stop hiding in Qom and show his fat little face in Baghdad…
http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/06/stuck-in-damascus-with-memphis-blues.html
November 17th, 2011, 11:06 pm
jad said:
Turkey occupation of Syria is Halal for the MBs, the Ottomans are no foreigners at all it’ll be a peaceful invasion.
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http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionID=2006&ChannelID=47519&ArticleID=1821
The same story with more details of the barking dogs’ plan on Alakhbar
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http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/25977
November 17th, 2011, 11:08 pm
zoo said:
Turkey’s Syrian gamble
Thursday, November 17, 2011
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French President Sarkozy gambled on Libya by turning on Col. Gadhafi at the start of the uprising, even if it was not clear at the time that this uprising would succeed. In the end his gambled paid off and France secured a good place in post-Gadhafi Libya.
Turkey initially opposed any intervention in Libya and even accused Sarkozy of harboring “imperialist motives.” But it had no choice in the end other than pursuing the French line, and thus became a committed member of the coalition against Gadhafi.
On Syria, however, the roles are reversed. This time Turkey is taking a gamble by leading the international pressure on Damascus. Ankara may oppose any outside military intervention against Assad’s regime, but it is deeply involved in what amounts to an effort at regime change. Sheltering and providing political support to the Syrian opposition, which is now moving toward armed struggle, cannot be interpreted in any other way.
Unlike Libya, however the stakes are higher in Syria, since it is not clear whether Assad will indeed be toppled anytime soon. He could remain in power with his strong military, a unified Alawite/Nusairi minority and the support (political or otherwise) of Iran, Russia and China. These countries couldn’t care less about the suffering of Syrians and are only concerned with preventing the West from strengthening its foothold in the region through friendly Arab regimes.
There are critics inside and outside Turkey, of course, who say Ankara’s involvement in Syria is also selfish. Foreign Minister Davuto?lu, for example, vehemently denies this involvement reflects a sense of solidarity with Syria’s majority Sunni’s who are governed by an Alawite minority. He maintains that Turkey reached out to President Assad at a time when the West was trying to isolate him and did so without any sectarian considerations.
That is true since sectarian divisions were not as pronounced only a year ago as they are today. But times have changed and a key aspect of the new set of circumstances is the growing sectarian divide in the Middle East. It seems inevitable therefore that the Justice and Development Party (AKP), which hails from an Islamist background, should incline toward the Sunni side of the equation.
Take Bahrain, for example. Foreign Ministry officials insist Ankara is not turning a blind eye to the oppression of the Shiite majority there by a governing Sunni minority. Ankara has indeed issued official statements critical of the situation in Bahrain. But one can hardly argue that Prime Minister Erdo?an and Davuto?lu have been as vocal on Bahrain as they have been on Syria.
That aside though, the fact remains that if Assad is toppled, Turkey’s great Syrian gamble will have paid off. It will be the country that the new leaders of Syria look to first as they try to establish a new regime. Turkey’s profile in the Sunni world across the Middle East will also increase, of course.
Shiites will not look so favorably on Turkey then and Ankara will have to win over the Syria’s Nusairi Alawites. Given that this minority has no choice but to value secularism and democracy in the future to protect itself against the majority Sunnis it fears, this may not be as hard as some assume.
If Assad somehow remains in power, however, Turkey’s gamble will have failed and this will leave Ankara facing a new set of negative circumstances along its 850-kilometer border with Syria. That must be a worrying prospect for both Prime Minister Erdo?an and Foreign Minister Davuto?lu.
Thursday, November 17, 2011
November 17th, 2011, 11:13 pm
jad said:
Zoo, it’s not only Turkey and their slaves the MBs are part of the plan, the usual Arab traitor, Jordan, is also playing its nasty role:
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http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/25984
November 17th, 2011, 11:25 pm
jad said:
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November 17th, 2011, 11:37 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
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More measures that lead to nowhere, but for more discrediting of oppositions status. Just who makes these assumptions: Plot to dislodge the Syrian Regime! Hardly, more like plot to make Assad ever more popular.
November 17th, 2011, 11:39 pm
jad said:
A five-kilometer ‘no flight zone’ along the border
A plan in order to protect civilians in Syria includes establishing a five-kilometer no flight zone along the border with Turkey.
SABAH has acquired details of the plan for Syria put forth by the oppositional forces. The first step of the plan directed at Syrian State Leader Bashar Assad, which the opposition has discussed with the Arab League and Turkey, involves establishing a five kilometer no-fly zone along the Turkish border, south of Aleppo.
According to the request put forth by the Syrian opposition, following meetings in Ankara and Cairo, the regulation will be established by the United Nations and implemented by Turkey, with the Arab League’s support. NATO will not be involved in this process in any way. The plan aims to widen the ring of Assad opponents within Syria, while also strengthening their plight coupled by the increasing division of the Syrian military. The following are further details of the Syria plan:
500 OBSERVERS IN DAMASCUS: Observers from the Arab League, including UN personnel will head to Syria. Expected to reach the 500 number, the report from observers on Assad will be the first form of pressure exertion. Negotiations on this item continued yesterday in Rabat.
ARAB LEAGUE ACTIVATED: The Arab League will request the UN establish a ‘no flight zone’ in order to protect civilians. The biggest hold up on this issue may come in the form of convincing Russia and China. However with the increasing death toll as each day passes, it may be difficult for Russia to object, however a military operation as conducted with Libya will not transpire, nor will they be ordered to take a position.
ALEPPO BLOCKADE: The no flight zone, which will initially be announced for a five kilometer-wide buffer zone south of Aleppo and under Turkey’s supervision is expected to expand in time.
TURKEY TO RESTRICT FLIGHTS: Turkey will be restricting flights under the support of the Arab League, the United States and the EU. This restriction will allow for defectors in the Syrian military to escape with their families and heavy weaponry. Assad was staging air attacks on military members attempting to escape by tanks.
BUFFER ZONE TO WIDEN: This period of time, which may be extensive and extremely trying will slowly but surely weaken the Syrian military causing a divide. The buffer zone is expected to be expanded and reverse attacks may be staged from this region. The zone is anticipated to encompass Aleppo in time and the city is expected to become the symbolic region of the struggle, just as Benghazi was in Libya.
Ankara’s three conditions
Ankara has granted permission for the Syrian opposition to establish a representative office in Turkey under the condition that they first unify amongst themselves. Ankara has also set up certain conditions for the no flight zone to be established with Turkey’s support. These conditions were relayed to the eight members of the Syrian National Council Foreign Affairs Davuto?lu met with previously. Turkey’s conditions are as follows:
A U.N. resolution must be released in order to establish the no flight zone under international legitimacy.
The Arab League must support Turkey’s stance and must act as leaders.
The EU and the USA must act as guarantors during this process and offer support.
http://www.sabahenglish.com/National/2011/11/17/a-fivekilometer-no-flight-zone-along-the-border
November 18th, 2011, 12:06 am
jad said:
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November 18th, 2011, 12:19 am
jad said:
This is big new, strange that it didn’t spread that much, it is the first article in a revolution-partner news paper Alsharq Alawsat, clearly saying that weapons are distributed and used by the activists:
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http://aawsat.com/details.asp?section=4&article=650202&issueno=12042
November 18th, 2011, 12:42 am
Juergen said:
@Shami
Well, i did not make it up, its my german given name. Yes I know Bassam personally. I do know that he has strong feelings for his country and abandons hate and promotes the legal rights of syrian citizens. I do not want to enter any dispute about the role he may or not play in the country, i do care for him as a friend, and i care about his family.
November 18th, 2011, 12:47 am
ann said:
More Deserter Attacks Raise Fear of Syrian Civil War
Muslim Brotherhood Leader Suggests Turkish Invasion
November 17, 2011
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/11/17/more-deserter-attacks-raise-fear-of-syrian-civil-war/
Attacks by deserters from Syria’s armed forces against Ba’athist targets in the northwest appear to be on the rise again today, leading to further speculation that the violent crackdown on pro-democracy activists may be spiraling the country into a civil war.
Even Russia, which has been downplaying the situation and defending Syria in the international community, seems to have finally recognized just how serious a threat the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) fighters have become to Assad’s continued rule. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said the situation is already “looking very much like a civil war.”
And while it doesn’t look like Russia is set to abandon the Assad regime, there are growing signs that the region is awakening to the reality that the regime may not survive. Even Iran, seemingly the most committed of Syria’s allies, is said to be holding meetings with the Syrian opposition, hedging its bets as it were against the prospect of an Assad-less Syria.
In the near-term the most serious threat to Assad’s already precarious position seems to be coming from the Arab League, which has been ratcheting up diplomatic pressure and looks to be less than 48 hours from declaring Syria in violation of demands to end the violence – a move they say will lead to sanctions and potentially Arab League backing for a UN Security Council resolution against Assad.
Adding to the situation, one of the top leaders of Syria’s faction of the Muslim Brotherhood spoke at a news conference today in Istanbul, saying his faction would welcome a Turkish invasion of Syria to “protect” the public from Syria’s crackdown. Turkey has been a major backer of the FSA, as well as one of the major exile blocs.
November 18th, 2011, 12:47 am
Mohamed Kanj said:
Can someone explain to me how turkey will manage to step a foot inside syrian territory without a response from the syrian military. Are the turks really that foolish and stupid. Dont they know that thousands of turkish lives along with thousands of syrians lives will be lost if they do that. They very well know that the syrian military has advanced missiles and weaponry to respond with thousands upon thousands of advanced russian made missiles to turkish territory. Syria will unleash the PKK from syria,iraq and iran borders. Their will be suicide bombings daily in turkey. Missile upon missile will rain down on turkey. And no little katuyshas this time. Syria will respond with heavy missiles. The syrian/turkish border will be closed for weeks. The turkish/syrian elite will suffer. Russia is shipping over advanced armour to syria on a daily basis. Turkey has given syria 8months notice to prepare for a border incursion. That is way too long. Do they really think that the syrian army has stayed idle in these 8months and not prepared itself with the help of russian/chinese military engineers and staff.If Israel with all its military capabilities failed against a 10,000 militia, how will turkey succeed against the most advanced weaponry and army and militia in the middle east. I have news that the republican gaurd has massed on the turkish border in preparation and readiness for war. WAKEUP TURKEY. The syrian army is no PKK. Turkey lost 20 soldiers in 10minutes against a little militia, the PKK. How many will they lose against the great syrian army
November 18th, 2011, 12:56 am
Revlon said:
AlQadi’s late verbal attacks on the president and members of the SNC and threat to their lives showed his true colors; vulgar, vain, and violent, the tradmarks of a Shabbeeh!
So what benefits are hoped to be reaped from staging the disappearance of a stoolpigeon?
I could come up with the following two:
– Laundring his reputation. He and the regime are keen on restoring his credibility in th eyes of the public, in order to contniue to serve their purpose.
– Executing a planned misssion of duping known jailed activist/s that may share his cell into confiding in him and volunteering specific information sought by his benefactor, Jr himself.
November 18th, 2011, 1:03 am
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: MOHAMED KANJJJJJJ
RE: “…someone explain to me how turkey will manage to step a foot inside syrian territory without a response from the Syrian military…”
The Syrian soldiers will not fight. If the Turkish army attacks, Syrian soldiers will throw down their rifles and run. Remember what happened in Iraq at the gates of Baghdad with the US military bearing down? Saddam promised the “mother of all battles.” There was no battle. The Iraqis ran.
And let me make this clear. The Iraqis did not run out of cowardice. They ran because they decided Saddam was not worth dying for. The same goes for Besho…
http://playwrighter.blogspot.com/2011/04/arab-news-fox-news-style.html
November 18th, 2011, 1:13 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
Rethloon democracy pioneers in SA
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November 18th, 2011, 1:17 am
ann said:
Outrage as Tunisia’s Likely PM Hopes for New Caliphate
Comment Seen as Potentially Slowing Coalition Government
November 17, 2011
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/11/17/outrage-as-tunisias-likely-pm-hopes-for-new-caliphate/
Comments reported today by Ennahda official Hamadi Jebali, widely expected to be the next Prime Minister of Tunisia, raised expressions of serious concern that the Islamist party was a little too Islamist.
Jebali reported told supporters in the city of Sousse that Ennahda’s victory in the elections mark “a historic moment, a divine moment, a new stage of civilization, God willing, in the sixth Caliphate.”
Historically caliphates have been major Islamic empires where the leader of the government also exercises broad control as the leader of the religion. The last caliphate was abolished in the wake of the Turkish War of Independence in 1924.
The suggestion that Tunisia might become a “new caliphate” spawned serious concerns among Tunisia’s secular parties, and raised speculation that Ennahda’s effort to form a coalition government would be slowed markedly.
In practice the comments are probably an empty appeal to the religiously-minded base. Caliphates have traditionally enjoyed power over broad regions, and the prime minister of a tiny country like Tunisia is unlikely to be able to credibly claim himself a Caliph.
November 18th, 2011, 1:19 am
Mohamed Kanj said:
Dale Anderson – as i recall wasnt it the israeli soldiers who started running and crying and hugging each other when hizbollah slaughtered them. Just in case u have amnesia i have attached photos of the israeli soldiers in tears and hugging each other as their fellow pigs were slaughtered by 10,000 militia with no advanced weaponry. I think after this photo they had an orgy with each other to cheer up. do a search on google of “israeli soldiers crying” and u will come up with 1000’s of picks of these weazels in tears after hizbollah slaughtered them. The syrian soldiers wont bother fighting hand to hand combat. The thousands upon thousands of missiles raining down on turkey will be enuf. And prepare urself to be hiding in ur bunker in israel when hizbollah slams ur caves with missiles 🙂 I hope i have made ur day after seeing ur fellow zionist pigs crying and hugging each other. Have a lovely day Dale 🙂
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=pictures+of+israeli+soldiers+crying&hl=en&sa=X&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enAU394AU395&biw=1536&bih=742&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=ihu5t1ag-rOevM:&imgrefurl=http://blog.camera.org/archives/2006/08/&docid=Sqy6xUu5uN8CDM&imgurl=http://blog.camera.org/archives/crying%252520israeli%252520soldier%2525202.jpg&w=380&h=264&ei=pvjFTqW1EI6amQXY9en7CA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=246&sig=118017738944166159459&page=1&tbnh=126&tbnw=171&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=132&ty=66
November 18th, 2011, 1:22 am
ann said:
Venezuela: Nuclear Conflict Looms ahead if Iran and Syria are Attacked
November 18, 2011
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27727
After a long break caused by serious health problems, Venezuela’s H. Chavez resumed on November 15 the practice of televised addresses on key policy issues. As a key message prompted by the recent developments, the Venezuelan leader sent to his nation and to the international community a strong warning about the threat of a nuclear conflict currently brewing in the Middle East… “There’s a nuclear war threat…The most guilty [of this risk] is the United States government and its allies such as Israel, who have many nuclear bombs,” said Chavez in a voice full of emotion.
The US propaganda campaign built around the myth of Iran’s nuclear-arms ambitions has been unfolding for years, growing increasingly hysterical in the process. Chavez at all times reiterated Venezuela’s support for Iran, expressing confidence in the civilian character of the country’s nuclear program. The statements invariably drew Washington’s ire or even allegations of the Venezuelan regime’s complicity with Ahmadinejad in secretly building nuclear weapons. Among other groundless claims, the US information warfare forces floated the fictitious story of uranium mining in Venezuela in the interests of the Iranian nuclear program and even fed to the media photographs of the Venezuelan uranium mine which, as it transpired shortly, actually showed a bicycle-assembling factory which used Iranian-supplied components. No apologies followed, as for the Empire lies are a normal instrument employed to influence the world around. The world is used to hearing lies from US presidents, secretaries of state, defense secretaries, bankers, journalists, diplomats, and intelligence operatives. The intensity of alarmist call for a global war on terror, ostensibly to counter the terrorist threat targeting the US at all angles, peaked in the wake of the September 11, 2001 drama when the Trade Center in NY was blown up on the order from the US “shadow government”. A tide of US special operations immediately swept across the world from Afghanistan and Iraq to Russia.
At the moment Syria, like Iran, is facing an unprecedented smear campaign. Armed groups trained by the US and Israeli intelligence services are penetrating the country with the mission of destabilizing Bashar al-Assad’s regime and igniting clashes, which could be cited internationally as a pretext for an intervention. The mercenaries’ atrocities in Syria seem to indicate that they have been trained by the US, Israeli, and French instructors who gained much of their past experience in Libya. Israeli commandos and Mossad operatives are particularly notorious for cruelty. Tel Aviv is fanning the internal strife in Syria to weaken the country militarily in the run-up to air raids against Iran’s allegedly arms-related nuclear infrastructures, along with its command and communication centers, air-defense installations, and munitions depots.
With memories still fresh of what happened in Iraq and Libya, of the sufferings the countries’ populations had to endure, and of the killings of S. Hussein and M. Gadhafi, Iran is determined to fight back in every way possible, and the Pentagon is fully aware of the perspective. US military planners warned the White House that the consequences of a military campaign against Iran can prove unpredictable, and B. Obama, who has permanently looked exhausted recently, decided to take time and, within several weeks, to consult with the US allies. The forecast at the moment is that Washington will not go beyond pushing for tighter sanctions against Iran, but chances are the US is simply trying to cause Tehran to lose vigilance.
The pro-Zionist global media provide extensive coverage of the potential plans for an attack on Iran, throwing in pieces of disinformation or attempting to intimidate the country. At the end of a long process of forging evidence of Iran’s making dirty bombs and bacteriological warfare in secret laboratories, the Western intelligence agencies may have started to believe in what they preached and now take seriously Tehran’s pledges of a crushing retaliatory strike. From Chavez’s perspectives, neither the US nor Israel can be trusted, Iran has serious reasons for concern, and provocations can take place any moment. Iran’s foes have no shortage of prefabricated scenarios, and some of the Western analysts in fact suggested using tactical nuclear weapons to inflict maximal damage on the Iranian military infrastructure. This may be the reason why Chavez had to stress that no government has the right to resort to nuclear weapons as no nations, including their own, would stay unharmed, and the radioactivity would put life on Earth as a whole in jeopardy.
In September, 2011, Venezuelan foreign minister Nicolás Maduro delivered a message on behalf of Chavez to the 66th session of the UN General Assembly. The sense of concern behind the talk resonated with the audience as Maduro said: “an unprecedented, imperialist and permanent war had begun”. The Venezuelan envoy maintained that the unlimited power of the military and financial oligarchy which, to boost its own revenues, is destroying the world and de facto runs a large group of countries, leads the world to a global catastrophe. He further stressed that war has to be a way of life for the financial capital as, destroying societies, wars help the chosen few to amass unbelievable riches. In the nearest future the world will be confronted with the threat of a new series of colonial wars being unleashed, with Libya as the starting point, to revitalize the global capitalist system now trapped in a deep structural crisis.
It is clear that the escalation around Iran and Syria, least the launch of military campaigns against the two countries, would cast a long shadow over the relations between Moscow and Washington. For Moscow, the independence and sovereignty of Iran and Syria are important from the standpoint of geopolitical stability along Russia’s southern frontier, and the Kremlin becomes increasingly vocal about this aspect of the situation. So far, there is no impression that Washington and Tel Aviv, eager to make another step towards global dominance, are ready to take Moscow’s position into account.
Discussing ways of taming the US and NATO, Chavez constantly invokes the themes of the multipolar world, alternative centers of power, and the cooperation between such countries as China, Russia, India, and Brazil in the name of peace. So far, however, their leaders appear to be lacking the will needed to put an end to the rising neocolonialism and unabashed international banditry.
November 18th, 2011, 1:26 am
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: MOHAMMED KANJOWSKY
RE: “…israeli soldiers…”
Who cares about the Jews? We were talking about the Syrians and whether they would fight if the Turks attacked. But for some reason, you have a jew hair up your ass…
November 18th, 2011, 1:32 am
Will Syria heed the Arab League’s 3-day ultimatum? (The Week) | Breaking News Today said:
[…] government cutbacks that come with sanctions don’t “usually bring regime-change,” says Joshua Landis at Syria Comment. They certainly never worked in Iran, Iraq, Libya, or Sudan, nor do they seem to be having much […]
November 18th, 2011, 1:48 am
jad said:
People need to watch this two clips to know what kind of retarded characters we are forced to accept as the new leaders of the new Syria.
This interview shows how limited and naive Alas’ad is. How come an army with ‘tens of thousands’ of ‘angles’ can’t find ONE well spoken and smarter officer to represent them other than this guy.
http://youtu.be/hsuF181i9yM
He gets better in the second interview, this time he sounds more stupid and a bigger liar than the earlier one since this time he was so ecstatic about turkey’s decision to help him invade Syria
http://youtu.be/kMOdWog3es0
November 18th, 2011, 2:04 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
The Prisoners and the Disappeared
SHAMI and REVLON
Bassam Alkadi is Syrian Citizen. Wherever he is, and whoever is holding him, his disappearance is no different than the disappearance of tens of thousands and until we all know otherwise, it is an illegal and criminal act.
I’ll be waiting for him to be freed exactly the same way I have been waiting for everyone. The fact that I disagree with him, vehemently, does not make his arrest acceptable.
His last call, presented by Jad is against the opposition, but it is also the type of demonstration, Assad crazed hyena will not tolerate. It was supposed to have no pictures, and no slogans other than Syria. I still don’t like his word, but I can see also how the some members of the now disconnected security regime may see threat in him as opposed to opportunity.Whoever he works for, he was chipping into the regime’s base and even assuming that he was working for the regime, his fiery rhetoric inspired many in the regime’s base albeit in reactionary manner and has gained too much popularity among a group Betho can not afford to lose. But I digress, for now, to me he is one of the tens of thousands languishing in regime’s dungeons. and like every one whose name I happen to know, I will call for his freedom. Once out, i hope this time that I will be facing him head to head and not through proxies.
for now
FREE BASSAM ALKADI
November 18th, 2011, 2:45 am
Syrian Commando said:
#419 MUHAMMAD KANJ,
We do not want to slaughter Turkey, it is a trap. Being a Muslim country, it will not net Syria and good publicity to slaughter this particular bird (Turkey). So we’re playing out diplomacy as long as the watermelon salesman (erDOGan) and his manager (Davutoglu) don’t have the blessings of their army.
But, in the mean time, here’s what they have to look forward to:
– 25,000 brand-new Iskander missiles (unknown number of launchers at the moment) along the Turkish border.
– S-300 system long deployed but never announced to foil their “no fly zone”
– Just deployed S-400 system, that was meant to be deployed in Saudi Arabia but now canceled, thanks to American greed.
– Russian black sea fleet now completely parked outside Tartous and controlling the east side of the mediterranian. Putin has already warned people not to defy his veto or face catastrophic consequences. What kind of consequences you ask? Well, one vessel, the “Moscow” missile cruiser can shut down a good portion of the sky working in tandem with Syria modern air defense system (arguable now the best in the world). Furthermore, what lurks underneath is what really matters, the Turks understand this.
– 400 Syrian tanks deployed since the days a Jisr Al-Shaghour inside the very edge of no mans land.
– 200,000 Revolutionary guards + armor on the east side of the border ready to take Ankara in 18 hours.
[- I wouldn’t normally mention it, but it sure is shaking up there. The earthquakes can be interpreted as a bad omen for Turkey, or maybe the very ground is shaking in fear from Syria?]
Unless they want to spark off WW3 (and I think they are insane enough to try), they can throw away the pipe dreams and figure out how they are going to fight the coming PKK insurgency that will tear the entire counrty apart.
Jordan apparently thought they’re good enough to help Turkey out as well, but soon they will feel internal pain.
Poor, poor, poor old Turkey and Jordan. 🙁
— Oh and if you think Syria will collapse due to Arab/European sanctions, you clearly haven’t been paying enough attention to what is happening with the latter and the requirements of the former that can only be met by Syrian goods.
Syria is back baby. Back with a vengence.
November 18th, 2011, 2:45 am
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: SYRIAN COMMANDO
RE: “…can only be met by Syrian goods…”
Hey, Commando, glad you’re back. Me and Annie and Jaddie thought you were dead.
As for Syrian goods, there’s a real glut in the world garlic market. Supply is up and the price has gone way down.
November 18th, 2011, 3:19 am
Uzair8 said:
@429 Syrian Commando
It is possible that big events are about to occur in the region. If not now then in the future sometime. This has already been prophesized.
Islam is coming. Get ready people.
Sheikh Nazim has already warned people of possible conflict and to stock up 20 days of supplies in their homes. Muharram (month) seems to be the time things may become clearer.
Check out the following thread for some interesting info.
http://www.yanabi.com/index.php?/topic/423670-shayk-nazim-take-precaution-in-the-month-of-muharram
PS: I’ll give a little teaser of the info in the next post.
November 18th, 2011, 3:22 am
Uzair8 said:
Maulana Sheikh Nazim
MAULANA: The power against Russia…US army will enter Sham. The first division can’t handle it and runs away.
SISTER: Muslims?
MAULANA: Yes, from the Muslim army. The second division is martyred. The third division is firm and it destroys the Bani Asfar (Russians). They drive them all the way to Istanbul. Istanbul is conquered with Takbirs.
……
It happens according to Allah’s will. But these are the news of our Prophet, peace be upon him. He has informed, what it means with ‘Banu Asfar’ is the Russians. Ibn Arabi Hadrat said, “Russia will enter Istanbul.” Our Grandsheikh Hadrat said, “They will stay there 3 months. They will go down to the Valley of Amuq. The Valley Amuq. The battle there is well known. It is mentioned in the books.
……..
SISTER: So Muslims, the Muslims Army will be in this battle. Meaning, it is not only between the US-Russian Armies but the Muslim army in it as well?
MAULANA: Muslim Army will come and the US will support them. American forces will join them. They will also support them. This is explained in Ibn Arabi Hadrat’s Book in details. Wa min Allahi Tawfiq, Fatiha.
November 18th, 2011, 3:24 am
Mina said:
Calling people names is NOT diplomacy…
“Asad has been a Nusayri all along” says the Davutoglu, just to add “Wasn’t he one when we were friends? We do not view Syria through a sectarian lens.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-arab-spring-has-given-turkey-a-voice-dont-mess-with-it-6263986.html
November 18th, 2011, 4:35 am
Uzair8 said:
Speechless in Bashar Assad’s Syria
By Michael Young
Friday, 18 November 2011
http://english.alarabiya.net/views/2011/11/18/177840.html
November 18th, 2011, 4:41 am
Mina said:
Saudi Arabia is on the way to freedom: soon women will be locked at home for good.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/26819/World/Region/Saudi-vice-committee-to-force-cover-women-with-tem.aspx
November 18th, 2011, 5:59 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Syria has to agree to what AL demanded,whether they respect their words is something else.
The number of FSA is not over 15000,I think they are about 2-3 thousand, they are realy like angels they are our hope to get rid of this occupying Assad army.
Bashar in 2005 pulled out of Lebanon when he realized military invasion and threat is real, so far Assad does not think there is credible military threat,once a military action starts Bashar will buckle.
Five kilometer protective zone has already been approved by Hafez Assad, this is nothing new, Turkey did not enforced this condition yet, Turkey can enforce it,Syria can not object to what Syria already approved.I doubt this will extend to reach Aleppo.
November 18th, 2011, 6:15 am
Juergen said:
@431. SYRIAN HAMSTER
Thank you for your clear message.
Does anyone have an insight on the story that the director of SANA has quit his job and was imprisoned soon after?
November 18th, 2011, 6:41 am
irritated said:
Syrian Hamster #431
“But I digress, for now, to me he is one of the tens of thousands languishing in regime’s dungeons.”
Just like Adnan Bakkour
November 18th, 2011, 6:58 am
Akbar Palace said:
But for some reason, you have a jew hair up your ass…
Dale Andersen,
I guess you have to blame someone when Arab states can’t even provide basic human rights.
Thank you for your support.
BTW – the conspiracy theorists aren’t saying much about Russia, which continues (until today) to support the criminal Athad regime.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/france-recalls-ambassador-syria-violence-grows-former-allies-055229512.html
Syria accepts AL observer mission (suuuure)….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15791532
November 18th, 2011, 6:59 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Mazout is getting scarce,people stand in long line to get it,the price of gas tank,Used for cooking, has reached 4500 syrian pound. this is for sure will cause people in Damascus to complain and complain bitterly, Mazout is necessary for preparing bread,winter is just begining,this is serious matter.
November 18th, 2011, 7:15 am
Shami said:
Juergen , I’m sorry, I misjudged you.
November 18th, 2011, 7:17 am
Shami said:
Majed,
Aleppo would welcome the turkish army.
Turkey has only to win with the return to normality in Syria after this hideous criminal regime finish into the dustbin of history.
The important is that assad and his gangs are not allowed to escape to Iran or Russia ,so they meet their logical fate.
November 18th, 2011, 7:32 am
Mina said:
Fresh news from Egypt:
Poverty is on the rise due to the economis crisis since the revolution and the slowdown of tourism.
So that was what the Arab spring was about? Ruining these countries and give cheap labor force to the Gulf again? Back to the seventies..
November 18th, 2011, 7:40 am
annie said:
A documentary about Homs from Al Arabiya
[youtube http://youtu.be/Wh9ahIvrQY0?%5D
Part 2
[youtube http://youtu.be/RDAhEbbOzOQ?%5D
November 18th, 2011, 7:54 am
irritated said:
Majedalkhaldoon #443
“people in Damascus to complain and complain bitterly”
Complain and put the blame on who?
November 18th, 2011, 7:59 am
zoo said:
“My brothers, you are living during a historic moment, a divine moment, a new stage of civilization, God willing, in the sixth Caliphate — a great responsibility awaits,” he told supporters in the city of Sousse, 100 miles (150 kilometers) southeast of the capital.
Top Islamist politician causes storm in Tunisia over reference to Caliphate
By Associated Press, Published: November 17
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/top-islamist-politician-causes-storm-in-tunisia-over-reference-to-caliphate/2011/11/17/gIQAYEXZUN_story.html
TUNIS, Tunisia — A reference by an Islamist politician to a form of government from Islam’s history has stirred a political controversy in Tunisia shortly after an election won by his party.
On Sunday, the party’s campaign manager, Hamadi Jebali, and expected candidate for prime minister, suggested the country was entering the “sixth Caliphate,” a reference to the first Islamic empire ruled by caliphs that were supreme in religious and temporal affairs.
…
For its part, Ennahda maintains the comments were taken out of context, explaining that for them “the Caliphate represented principles of Tunisia’s political patrimony and civilization, including justice, sincerity, liberty and loyalty,” a statement on the party’s website said.
November 18th, 2011, 8:05 am
zoo said:
Israel: Tunisia, from ‘moderate Islam’ to a ‘Caliphate’ in three weeks
http://www.thejc.com/blogs/alansimons/tunisia-from-moderate-islam-a-caliphate-three-weeks
Also
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=721_1321381362
Liberation of Jerusalem from Jewish starts from the Tunisian caliphate
In a popular meeting in Sousse today, Hamadi Jebali of Enahdha party,certainly tunisian next prime minister in Tunisia, has announced that he and his party will be “the 6 th islamic Rightly Guided Caliphs”,promising also that this tunisian Caliphate will, enlighten the worrld,as did the Jasmine revolution! The term Caliphate refers to the first system of government established in Islam and represented the political unity of the Muslim Ummah (community). Its head is the Caliph, a monarch, usually chosen among pious imams. He also promised that Jerusalem will be freed from jewish occupation. The liberation process will start from the tunisian Caliphate! pointing to a palestenian guest woman present in the meeting: “our sister’s presence is a sign from God. There are divine signals in this very moment. The liberation of jerusalem starts here. From tunisia will start the 6th
Righteous Caliphate” uproar in tunisian blogosphere and facebook
pages in reaction to these strangely hilarious, out of time statements.
Hamadi Jebali also added “I see many Godly signs in this meeting”.
Someone ironically commented ” I was almost expecting him to perform a miracle for the audience!”
November 18th, 2011, 8:15 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Shami
I agree. Not only Aleppo, but Homs and Hama and Damascus would too, most syrians want to get rid of this corrupt sectarian regime.
Life in Syria is getting difficult and unsafe.
November 18th, 2011, 8:28 am
newfolder said:
Head of SANA in Dier Ezzour, Alaa Khuder resigns in protest at state media lies and propaganda. Tapes his mouth shut and wears a sign “I am a Syrian journalist” he is later arrested.
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/37584
November 18th, 2011, 8:36 am
zoo said:
A turning point for Syria protests?
“So the only foreseeable way for this conflict to end (other than an outright victory by Assad, which is sadly plausible) would be for mid- and low-level military defectors to lead an armed rebellion against the regime. And that’s beginning to happen.”
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2011/1118/A-turning-point-for-Syria-protests/%28page%29/2
November 18th, 2011, 8:50 am
Mina said:
In Egypt, all the talk is about more men/women segregation, now that the MB and their new allies the Salafis are asked about what is their political programme concretely. If you don’t agree with them, you’re obviously a “liberal”.
So is segregation the future of humanity?
In buses ?
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=436872
As in the Gulf for foreign workers?
As in Turkey for the Kurds and the Christians?
November 18th, 2011, 9:01 am
Mina said:
Powerful lobbies for rent, in the US
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/world/africa/us-group-offered-to-aid-qaddafi-documents-show.html?pagewanted=1&hp
Latest from Lybia
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1072/re1.htm
Iraq federalism on the way
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1072/re3.htm
Yemen
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1072/re8.htm
November 18th, 2011, 9:06 am
Revlon said:
Annoncement of the Transitional Military Council of the Free Syrian Army on the late attack by an FSA force on Asad Air Force Intelligence branch of Southern region
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe88UYDRvw&feature=player_embedded
Uploaded by OmawiTV on Nov 17, 2011
This communiqué comes as a response to the propaganda campaign against our attack on Air Force Intelligence branch of Southern Region
– The targeted branch has been involved in killing a number of army defectors and civilians, and is a known centre for systematic torture of detainees of defected army members and civilians.
– Furthermore, we acquired intelligence information that the said branch employs Iranian experts who aid in planning and execution of the crackdown on demonstrators. We regard such Iranian assistance as an act of terrorism, and a blatant intervention in our country’s affairs and can not pass without our reply.
– We undertook a targeted attack on part of the complex and were able to free some civilian and military detainees.
– We consider the Asad’s Air Force Intelligence branch of Southern Region and all other security branches of the regime to be legitimate targets for the FSA. Those targets are military and not civilian ones.
– Unlike the Regime’s military and security forces that have been breaking international laws by shooting at an killing civilians and shelling and destroying their neighbourhoods, we the military have the right under international laws to fight other armed forces to free our comrades and take action against those who continue to threaten us and our families existence.
– We seek the support of our Arab brethren and the free civilised world, never mind the dictatorships “I think he was referring to Russia and China”.
– We the Free Army of Syria shall sacrifice for the sake of freedom and honour of our people. We shall hit Asad criminals with an iron fist, and with the People we shall oust Asad and his mob, with the help of God.
We shall not surrender.
We prevail or die.
November 18th, 2011, 9:34 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Now it’s clear that the FSA is using RPGs of some kind. Or, the Iraqization of the Syrian civil war.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Sx-7MWllH0U#!
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November 18th, 2011, 9:35 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Armed terrorist gang with jeans and sneakers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xax-pMI1U8E&feature=player_embedded#!
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November 18th, 2011, 9:42 am
irritated said:
MajedAlKaldoon, Revlon
With the scarcity of media news and Youtube videos, please update us on the ‘massive’ protest calling the Syrian ambassadors to get kicked out..
November 18th, 2011, 9:44 am
Revlon said:
Officer Ahmad Mustafa Maarati and 4 seargents and soldiers defect and join the FSA.
The officer calls on Alawi officers to break ranks and join the FSA to save the country from Asad madness
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-LZTaRG_Ss&feature=player_embedded#at=30
Uploaded by SHAMSNN on Nov 17, 2011
November 18th, 2011, 9:45 am
irritated said:
Amir In Tel Aviv
“Now it’s clear that the FSA is using RPGs of some kind. Or, the Iraqization of the Syrian civil war.’
No, No No, you are mistaken, it is not a civil war, the US is saying, it is only a new trick by the ‘desperate’ regime to change the focus of the uprising. It is just the army shooting at itself to make it appear as a civil war.
November 18th, 2011, 9:48 am
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
The President of Turkey, Abdullah Gul, who is a member of the ruling AKP party and was formerly the foreign minister of Turkey, said on 17 Nov 2011 that Turkey is opposed to any military intervention in Syria. Gul made the statement during a meeting with the person who is the head of the committee on foreign policy of the Parliament of Iran, and the statement was published by the Iranian embassy in Ankara. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/210661.html
(The deputy chairman of Turkey’s largest oppostion party not only says the same, he also says that the international commentators should align themselves with the reforms that are being introduced by the regime as the only sensible pathway out of the crisis, or at the least they should more clearly align themselves with the policy that Syria’s crisis is best left solely in the hands of the people who live in Syria. He’s quoted at #362 above.)
November 18th, 2011, 9:54 am
jad said:
Freedom for Bassam Al-Qadi
I have received a message that Bassam Al-Qadi is missing: either kidnapped or arrested.
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2011/11/freedom-for-bassam-al-qadi.html
November 18th, 2011, 9:59 am
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http://www.aldiyaronline.com/index.php/aldiyar-topic-article/16/10967#.TsZpaLg_cNY.facebook
November 18th, 2011, 10:03 am
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
This is only for fans of the song “Souria Habeebeti” who are also fans of the jaysh, a video from July 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK8FlVpD0hk
For Rouwaida Attiya fans only: Snippet of Rouwaida anno 2008 doing “Souria Habeebeti” and speaking favourably of Bashar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vZ-oYOHQkuM#t=95s
For Najwa Karam fans only: Another rendition of the mawal Jebel-ha wa Deir-ha wa Homs-ha wa Hama-ha. This time from Najwa in Saidnaya, Syria, July 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TapKe-h6mWo
November 18th, 2011, 10:05 am
jad said:
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http://syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=140157
November 18th, 2011, 10:13 am
jad said:
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http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/news/571979/
November 18th, 2011, 10:17 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Did you notice the stoppage of the daily bashing of Israel, and the constant threatening Israel by Erdogan and the Uglu?
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November 18th, 2011, 10:21 am
Revlon said:
An officer and his unit of nearly 37 soldiers announce the for mation of Sham Falcons Phalange
???? ????? ????? ???? ????? ?? ????? ?????? ???? 17-11-2011
November 18th, 2011, 10:43 am
Revlon said:
The spirit of Qashoush lives on and haunts its muderers
Idlib
Friday of Expulsion of Ambassadors
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November 18th, 2011, 11:08 am
ann said:
Why Turkey’s Dream of Regional Leadership Failed – Nov. 18, 2011
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/11/why-turkeys-dream-of-regional-leadership-failed/248696/
INSTANBUL — With the sharp deterioration of Turkish-Syrian relations over the last two days, some Turkish and Western observers have declared Ankara’s “zero-problems” foreign policy dead and buried. This sentiment has been building for some time, especially among critics of the ruling Justice and Development Party, but the denouement of the Erdogan/Davutoglu investment in Bashar al Assad–a signature policy–seems to have signaled the end of what has been billed as Turkey’s transformative diplomacy. The facts are hard to ignore. In an era when Ankara aspired to no problems with its neighbors, it actually has cok (many) problems: Syria, Israel, Armenia, Iran, Cyprus, and the EU to name just a few.
To be fair, Ankara’s neighbors have not exactly cooperated, but at the same time, it is not all that much of a surprise that zero problems has not delivered as promised. For all of Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu’s many talents, his signature policy was not all that visionary. In fact, it was downright conventional. Stripped of all the romance about Turkey being a role model, zero problems was based on the central hunch that drives economic determinism: If people are getting richer and happier, they will accept the status quo because they will develop an economic interest in said status quo, in turn, providing incentive to avoid any problems for fear it might undermine people’s newfound wealth and ipso facto, presto–zero problems.
In ways, this was a potentially genius way of dealing with Turkey’s Kurdish problem. Drop trade barriers, visa requirements, and invest in Syria and Iraq and the economic and political benefits to Turkey’s southeast would be enormous. By making Kurds richer and happier, Davutoglu assumed they would be less inclined to make cultural and national demands on the Turkish state. It hasn’t exactly worked out that way. Regionally, the weakness at the heart of zero problems was that it had no commitment to any particular kind of government. As a result, it was bound up in the Middle East’s old political order.
While AKP was driving democratic changes at home, the prime minister and foreign minister were courting nasty Middle Eastern leaders. Assad, to take an example, is the opposite of Erdogan. The Turkish prime minister owes his power and success to an appealing vision for Turkish society, the ability to deliver socio-economic benefits to Turks, and a whole lot of charisma. These factors have consistently returned him to office with ever-larger percentages of the popular vote. The Syrian president is the son of a brutal dictator who remains in power through his willingness to spill the blood of his own people. The same stunning irony was clear in Turkey’s relations with Qadhafi’s Libya. Once these regimes faltered, which, again in all fairness to Ankara hardly seemed inevitable, zero problems was likely to look like a bad bet. Once the game was up, revealing Turkey to be no different from any other major power in the region all too willing to do business with unseemly characters, Erdogan and Davutoglu were forced to tack hard against their own policies. Zero problems is now dead because it became unsustainable as Qadhafi massed forces against Tripoli or Bashar al Assad cranks up the violence to save his regime.
The combination of deft public relations, the help of some parts of the national press all too willing to engage in national self-aggrandizement, and an emerging consensus among international foreign policy elites about the benefits of the “Turkish model,” has rescued the AKP’s foreign policy from the gap between Ankara’s principles and its actual conduct in the region. There are exceptions to this, of course. Erdogan has been consistent in his position on Gaza, which has won him widespread admiration in the Arab world. Still, for those who bother to look critically, zero problems and its demise reveal that like the United States, the EU, and other global powers, Turkey only became a champion of human rights and democracy in the Middle East world after Arabs took matters into their own hands and began bringing down Ankara’s friends.
November 18th, 2011, 11:08 am
jad said:
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November 18th, 2011, 11:09 am
irritated said:
Join the Marches on Fridays
Egypt Friday march: “Friday of one demand”
Location : Midan Al Tahrir, Cairo
Guests: Moslem Brotherhood, Salafists, Liberals and friends
Main Anthem; “We want a president”
Crowd: Ten of Thousands
Syria Friday March: “Friday of expulsion of Syrian ambassadors”
Location: Hot spots in Homs, Hama, Edlib, Deir Ezzor, Douma, Deraa
Guests; Moslem Brotherhood, Salafists, Activists, Jobless and Friends
Main Anthem: “Expel our ambassadors”
Planned Crowd by organizers: “Massive”
Jordan Friday protest: No Name
Location: Amman , Jordan
Guests: Moslem Brotherhood, youth,lefttist
Main anthems:”the people want to reform the regime”, “the people want an elected government”, and “we want a fair electoral system”.
Crowd: One thousand +
November 18th, 2011, 11:10 am
Revlon said:
A large demonstration in downtown Palmyra
Friday of Expulsion fo Ambassadors
18/11/2011
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November 18th, 2011, 11:16 am
irritated said:
#468. Amir in Tel Aviv
“Did you notice the stoppage of the daily bashing of Israel, and the constant threatening Israel by Erdogan and the Uglu?”
Erdogan and Uglu are buried under “zero” problems. The nature also decided to create more “zero” problems with recurrent earthquakes.
I doubt they have time these days for bashing an ally to their main ally.
November 18th, 2011, 11:21 am
Revlon said:
Qashoush spirit haunts the regime in Naseeb, Dar3a
Friday of Expulsion of Ambassadors
One placard reads:
Asad regime will be auctioned; Get ready Iran and Iraq!
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November 18th, 2011, 11:22 am
irritated said:
#474. Revlon
“A large demonstration in downtown Palmyra”
I did not know there so many Kurds in Palmyra.
November 18th, 2011, 11:24 am
irritated said:
#476. Revlon
“Qashoush spirit haunts the regime in Naseeb, Dar3a”
What is the average age of the demonstrators, 11 years ?
November 18th, 2011, 11:26 am
jad said:
With the usual news of the regime ‘heavy’ firing at every protester in the streets of Syria it’s puzzling that in Idleb,Palmyra and (children abuse) “We want Arour” Naseeb demonstration linked by the makeup dude NOBODY get hurt and no shabiha are there to beat them.
However, the Syrians killed today are at least 13, none from Idleb or Palmyra or Naseeb:
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November 18th, 2011, 11:28 am
Revlon said:
Asad armed forces swarm Tseel neighbourhoods and steal to eat, while AlMuallem stalls the talks on the plan for sending AL observers
Friday of expulsion of Ambassadors
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November 18th, 2011, 11:29 am
majedkhaldoun said:
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/11/18/177895.html
November 18th, 2011, 11:35 am
Revlon said:
A glimpse of what the FSA inspires and provides to demonstrators who get attacked by Asad forces.
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November 18th, 2011, 11:35 am
Majed97 said:
Looks like Syria will not be handed over to the west that easily. The Russians are drawing their red line…
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http://syrianow.sy/index.php?d=34&id=40595
November 18th, 2011, 11:36 am
Revlon said:
A video showing the sniper who shot and killed the 14 year old boy Yasin AbdelKarim AlMasalmeh.
AlFatiha upon his soul,
May God bless his family with solace and empoer them with patience.
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November 18th, 2011, 11:40 am
Mina said:
Egypt, news from the ground.
I have asked around if the events described around January 28th on al Jazeera by so-called “witnesses on the phone” and telling about dozens of deads in the Carrefour of Maadi, and of a tasfiyya in process in two prisons were some MB were locked were true. Different people told me: no. There was a lot of mubalagha in those days. It was all the same day that simultaneously police stations, courts where burned down. It looked organized.
So this confirm that some lies have been used to get the Salafis and MB to the streets while for the few first weeks they had not participated to the demonstrations (ibda’, as they say in KSA).
I asked a taxi driver: and why isn’t there any newspaper to simply take the events reported by al Jazeera about Egypt in January and February one by one and explain what turned out to be true or fake. And he answer: “Journalists don’t have any dameer; they just want to keep their job and receive money.”
These days people are amazingly upset with the coming elections. Upset at the Salafis and at the army equally. They simply say “Allah yustur”; “Our religion is wasat”; “Religion is tasamuh”.
The same goes for Syria. I wait for an audit of all the “news” broadcasted by the Qardawi-Aroor networks.
November 18th, 2011, 11:41 am
irritated said:
#480. Revlon
“Asad armed forces swarm Tseel neighbourhoods and steal to eat,”
Sound is out of sync. It looks the sound was added as the soldiers don’t seem to be shooting, just pointing.
Four hungry soldiers is ‘swarming’?
What happened to the professional editors?
November 18th, 2011, 11:42 am
jad said:
Thanks for the clip in #482, makeup dude, that actually explained the casualties in Daraa, it happened because of the exchange of fire between the Syrian Army and the armed terrorists, not ‘civilian’ as claimed.
It also proves that casualties only happened when the Syrian Army is attacked and the statement of ‘civilian’ victims needs to be revised and explained instead of the blunt lies of the media and the human right organizations.
Amazing, how people voluntarily expose their own lies.
November 18th, 2011, 11:45 am
irritated said:
#482 Revlon
“A glimpse of what the FSA inspires and provides to demonstrators who get attacked by Asad forces.”
It inspires them to sing and dance while they are being shot at?
Sound is also out of sync.
November 18th, 2011, 11:47 am
Revlon said:
A battle erupted between an FSA unit and Asad forces leading to destruction of an armored vehicle and killing of 5 Shabbeha.
The operation was in response to repeated acts of kdnaping of civilians by Shabbeeha.
AlAbbasiyeh, Deir Baalbeh town, Homs Governorate.
Friday of Expulsion of Ambassadors
18/11/2011
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26 minutes ago
November 18th, 2011, 11:48 am
Mina said:
Egypt revolution hijacked by the MB and Salafis, although they were not in the demonstrations for weeks at the beginning!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/world/middleeast/egyptian-islamists-rally-to-protest-military-rule.html?_r=1&hp
Well at least in Syria, it’s the opposite. Without Aroor and AJA’s noise, Atassi’s friends and FB fiends would have remained a few dozens.
November 18th, 2011, 11:53 am
zoo said:
Nude Blogger Riles Egyptians of All Stripes
By LIAM STACK and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: November 17, 2011
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/world/middleeast/aliaa-magda-elmahdy-egypts-nude-blogger-stirs-partisan-waters.html
CAIRO — Aliaa Magda Elmahdy apparently thought she was striking a blow for sexual equality and free expression in Egypt when she posted nude photographs of herself on a blog. Instead Ms. Elmahdy set off a wave of outrage here, stoking conservative Islamist sentiments that many liberals fear will undermine their prospects in the country’s parliamentary election next week.
It is hard to overstate the shock at an Egyptian woman’s posting nude photographs of herself on the Internet in a conservative religious country where a vast majority of Muslim women are veiled and even men seldom bare their knees in public. In Egypt, even kissing in public is taboo.
November 18th, 2011, 11:57 am
Revlon said:
A large demonstration in Deir Baalbeh.
One Placard reads: The Russian regime is an accomplice in our killing inncocents and children
Another echoes the speakers demands and warns the SNC of withdrawing their vote of confidence and present them with the following demands:
– Arab/international protection of civilians
– No fly zone
– De-militarized zone
– Recognition of the Free Syrian Army
Friday of Expulsion of Ambassadors
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November 18th, 2011, 12:01 pm
zoo said:
The new Moslem Brotherhood: Moderately extremist?
Libya’s Islamists Ransack Graves in Power Struggle
18/11/2011
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=27354
TRIPOLI, Libya, (AP) — Libyan gunmen broke into the Saif al-Nasr mosque in Tripoli early on Nov. 8, smashed open a wooden sarcophagus and removed the remains of Saif al-Nasr, a scholar who died 155 years ago, and a former imam, Hammad Zwai.
“These bodies have been moved to a Muslim cemetery,” announced graffiti on the walls, explaining the disapproval by some Islamists of the Sufi Muslim tradition of burying scholars and teachers in mosques to honor them.
Muslims pushing for a strict interpretation of Islamic law are jostling for power in the chaos that has gripped Libya since the ouster of Muammar Gaddafi, the third North African leader after those in Egypt and Tunisia to fall in the Arab Spring.
Last month protesters holding signs proclaiming “We Are Here to Purify the Honor of Tripoli” forced the early closure of the capital’s first fashion show since Gaddafi’s 42-year rule in Tripoli ended in August.
“I was scared; I wiped off my makeup and went home,” said Jasmin Abdul Aziz, a 22-year-old student who was one of five models at the event and once paraded a $5,000 dress studded with diamonds in a Gaddafi-era fashion show. “Before, we would wear shorts in the streets. Now, look around you, nobody does.”
Muslim Brothers hold first Libya congress for 25 years
18/11/2011
BENGHAZI, Libya, (AFP) — Libya’s Muslim Brotherhood, repressed under the regime of fallen strongman Mummer Gaddafi, has opened its first public congress inside the country for almost 25 years.
“This is an historic day for us and for the Libyan people,” its leader Suleiman Abdel Kader told AFP at the opening late Thursday of the three-day congress in the eastern city of Benghazi.
Brotherhood officials said it was their first public meeting inside Libya in almost quarter of a century, although it met underground during Gaddafi’s rule for fear of reprisals or held their congress abroad.
Officials of Libya’s ruling National Transitional Council, including Islamic Affairs Minister Salem el-Sheikli and Defence Minister Jalal al-Degheili, attended the opening in Benghazi.
The congress was due to elect a leader and discuss strategy, notably whether to form a political party, said Abdel Kader.
The Brotherhood supports the idea of a “civil” state but founded on Islamic values, he said. “This country belongs to all its people and everybody must participate in its construction.”
November 18th, 2011, 12:06 pm
Juergen said:
I just got word that Bassam AlKadi is doing ok, still held but no informations cam along by whom.
November 18th, 2011, 12:07 pm
Revlon said:
A demonstration in BabEdraib neighbourhood, Homs
A placard reads: The Coordiantion Assembly represent themselves and are Regime proxies.
Friday of Expulsion of Ambassadors
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November 18th, 2011, 12:17 pm
Mina said:
494 Jürgen
Hurrah for Bassam. Al hamdulillah.
In Cairo (continued)
I notice that I see very little women in the streets. No matter veiled or not but very little. They stay home especially after maghrib because of many reports of petty thefts and robberies as the poors can’t make a living, more than ever before.
November 18th, 2011, 12:24 pm
Revlon said:
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Activist and lawyer, Haytham AlMaleh:
– Syria is ruled by five individuals. They are:
Jr, Mama, Brother, Uncle, and another close relative.
– The sytem they rule through ought to be eradicated from the tope all the way to the bottom.
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November 18th, 2011, 12:28 pm
Revlon said:
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Forever is here,
and Asad’s end is near…
But they dont seem to see or hear…
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http://all4syria.info/web/archives/37561
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Wall: Ali AlKhalaf
16/11/2011
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November 18th, 2011, 12:43 pm
jad said:
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November 18th, 2011, 12:46 pm
Tara said:
Revlon
I hear “mama” has the strongest voice in that circle and “sissy” is also very effective. What a shame! Ruthless women. Very counter-intutive. Can also be a rumor. I just can not imagin.
November 18th, 2011, 12:47 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Bassam Al Kadi is safe , he will come back home soon, with bags of money.
November 18th, 2011, 12:48 pm
5 dancing shlomos said:
Sanctioning Syria: The Long Road to Damascus
By Maidhc Ó Cathail
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29743.htm
November 17, 2011 “Information Clearing House” — In 1996, an Israeli think tank, the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, prepared “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” for incoming Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In that seminal report, the Richard Perle-led study group suggested that Israel could “shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria.” Comprised mainly of American-based pro-Israel advocates, the group stressed, “Most important, it is understandable that Israel has an interest supporting diplomatically, militarily and operationally Turkey’s and Jordan’s actions against Syria, such as securing tribal alliances with Arab tribes that cross into Syrian territory and are hostile to the Syrian ruling elite.”
Although Netanyahu didn’t act on their advice at the time, Perle and two of his co-authors, Douglas Feith and David Wurmser, found George W. Bush more receptive to “securing the realm” – for Israel – after September 11, 2001. Nine days after that “catastrophic and catalyzing event,” Perle signed a Project for a New American Century letter to President Bush, urging the United States to “consider appropriate measures of retaliation” against Iran and Syria if they didn’t “immediately cease all military, financial, and political support for Hezbollah” – whose presumably unforgivable crime was that it had “humiliated Israel by driving its army out of Lebanon.” Explaining the Bush administration’s subsequent decision to invade Iraq in 2003, Patrick Buchanan famously wrote in The American Conservative, “In the Perle-Feith-Wurmser strategy, Israel’s enemy remains Syria, but the road to Damascus runs through Baghdad.”
Notwithstanding Syria’s initial cooperation with the Israeli-inspired but American-fought “war on terror,” the Israel lobby ensured that there would be no long-term rapprochement between Washington and Damascus. A September 5, 2002 document, “Working to Secure Israel: The Pro-Israel Community’s Legislative Goals,” declared AIPAC’s intention to “sanction Syria for its continuing support of terrorism” by working “with Congress to pass the Syria Accountability Act.”
In October 2003, Representative Eliot Engel, who sponsored the legislation, proudly reported the bill’s imminent passage to the inaugural Jerusalem Summit, organized by Ariel Sharon’s government and its diehard American supporters (including the ubiquitous Perle) “to work out a joint strategy of resistance to the Totalitarianism of the Radical Islam, and to the moral relativism which in vain tries to placate this Totalitarianism by sacrificing Israel.” Confusing the ultimate target of the AIPAC-crafted legislation with Israel’s more southerly bête noire, the Jewish Democrat from New York informed the summit, “It’s no secret that the people on Lebanon’s southern border, the terrorists, Hamas, are wrecking [sic] havoc and causing all kinds of destruction and could be stopped tomorrow if Syria wanted it. This is Hamas, the group which blew up over 200 US marines. This is the group that goes out not only to destroy Israel, but would destroy the United States as well.”
With Iraq proving to be less of a “cakewalk” than America’s pro-Israel warmongers had breezily predicted, Syria managed to survive two Bush terms. The failure of Israel’s 2006 invasion of Lebanon to dislodge Hezbollah, however, added significantly to the impetus for regime change in Damascus. When Israel’s friends in Washington concluded that the Syrian corridor to Iran was “Hezbollah’s Achilles heel,” Bashar al-Assad’s days were increasingly numbered. The Arab uprisings of 2011 provided them with their long-sought opportunity for “rolling back Syria.”
Writing in the Guardian, Alistair Crooke describes how the “great game” of “losing Syria” is currently being played out with the cooperation of the absolute monarchies of Saudi Arabia and Qatar; the also predominantly Sunni secular Republic of Turkey; and France, arch-promoters of Libya’s NATO-backed “revolution” and Syria’s short-lived former colonial rulers, i.e. “set up a hurried transitional council as sole representative of the Syrian people, irrespective of whether it has any real legs inside Syria; feed in armed insurgents from neighbouring states; impose sanctions that will hurt the middle classes; mount a media campaign to denigrate any Syrian efforts at reform; try to instigate divisions within the army and the elite; and ultimately President Assad will fall.”
Enforcing those AIPAC-endorsed sanctions has been the happy task of the U.S. Treasury’s Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. Created in early 2004 after intensive lobbying by AIPAC and its associated think tank, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, the TFI unit has been aptly described as “a sharp-edged tool forged principally to serve the Israel lobby.” With David S. Cohen succeeding Stuart Levey as Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in January 2011, a leading journalist on the Middle East was later prompted to call the position “a job which seems reserved for pro-Israeli neo-cons to wage economic warfare against Tehran.”
In recent days, Cohen’s TFI unit has been eagerly waging economic warfare against Damascus. Daniel L. Glaser, the Assistant Secretary for Terrorist Financing, has just completed a tour of Lebanon and Jordan to secure their compliance with economic sanctions against the Assad government. In Beirut, the U.S. Embassy announced that Glaser was pressing the authorities to “remain vigilant against attempts by the Syrian regime to evade U.S. and EU sanctions.”
In a recent policy alert, WINEP’s executive director, Robert Satloff, urged that “with the strategic opportunity of contributing to the demise of Iran’s premier Arab ally, Washington should be working overtime to act in defense of the Syrian people.” Considering the long road to Damascus pursued by Satloff’s fellow-travellers, it should be clear for which country regime change in Syria presents a “strategic opportunity
November 18th, 2011, 1:28 pm
Mango said:
483. MAJED97
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
November 18th, 2011, 1:36 pm
Mango said:
DANCING SHLOMOS
November 18th, 2011, 1:40 pm
Mango said:
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November 18th, 2011, 2:28 pm
Tara said:
Syria wants amendments to Arab monitoring plan
Reuters – 1 hr 19 mins ago….
(Reuters) – Syria has asked for amendments to a plan to send Arab League observers to Syria to assess the situation there where troops are cracking down on anti-government protests, the League chief said on Friday.
The Syrian request is being studied, the League said.
The pan-Arab body based in Cairo has demanded an end to bloodshed and called for monitors to be sent to Syria as part of an Arab initiative aimed at ending the violence and starting talks between the government and the Syrian opposition.
The League suspended Syria this week. It has also drawn up a plan with civil society groups for a 500-strong fact-finding team that will include military personnel. Damascus had said it welcomed a League-backed mission whatever the make-up.
League chief Nabil Elaraby said in a statement he had received a letter from Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem “including amendments to the draft protocol regarding the legal status and duties of the monitoring mission of the Arab League to Syria” agreed by a League ministerial council on Wednesday.
“These amendments are now under study,” the statement quoted Elaraby as saying.
He said the Syrian request was made in a letter received on Thursday evening.
….
November 18th, 2011, 2:39 pm
mjabali said:
America gives some money to support democracy and the Sunni Arabs give way more money to promote Salafi/conservative thought in the same place….democracy needs better help than this…
http://www.elaph.com/Web/news/2011/11/696557.html
November 18th, 2011, 3:02 pm
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
William Blum is an American who’s a longtime critic of American foreign policies. Here he is talking about the early propaganda involved in the Libyan obscenity. You’ll see counterparts or parallels with Syria.
That false-propaganda editorial rule of the Libyan rebels now has a counterpart in Syria:
November 18th, 2011, 3:19 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Looks and sounds as it was a stormy Friday across Syria, and not because of the weather. Did I say already that this junta is doomed?
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November 18th, 2011, 3:54 pm
zoo said:
Turkey determined to end the stalemate and unseat Bashar Al Assad quickly at any cost before it spills over to Turkey. The Moslem Brotherhood calls for a military intervention from Turkey.
Ankara pressures Assad, fearing war in Syria will hurt Turkey
Thomas Seibert
Nov 19, 2011
http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/ankara-pressures-assad-fearing-war-in-syria-will-hurt-turkey?pageCount=0
…
“With a 900-kilometre border with Turkey and Syria’s geographical position as a “door to the Middle East” for Turkey’s economy, Ankara concluded that long-term instability in Syria had to be avoided, Mr Ayhan said.
“If Assad had been able to bring the situation under control by May, neither Turkey nor the Arabs would have done anything,” Mr Veysel said. But the prolonged violence in Syria drove the neighbours into action, he added. “Turkey wants this to be over as quickly as possible.”
Arab and Turkish sanctions against Syria are set to take effect today. There has been no official statement about what Turkish sanctions would be, but government ministers have talked about a possible cut of Turkish power and water supplies to Syria.
“The Turkish government now is positioned at the sharp end of the sword that dangles over Damascus, lending full support to Syrian opposition groups and urging other nations to ‘join the struggle’,” Taylan Bilgic, the managing editor of the Hurriyet Daily News, an English language newspaper, wrote in a column yesterday”
The leader of Syria’s exiled Muslim Brotherhood said on Thursday that Syrians would accept Turkish intervention in the country. “The Syrian people would accept intervention coming from Turkey, rather than from the West, if its goal was to protect the people,” the Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammad Riad Shakfa said in Istanbul. “We may ask more from Turkey as a neighbour.”
November 18th, 2011, 4:03 pm
jna said:
Louay Hussein
This man seems more and more seems to be emerging as a opposition spokesman, at least in the media. He seems willing to dialog for/during democratic transition.
“”We have warned in the past and we warn again that these are the methods of the regime to waste time,” said Omar Idilbi, a Beirut-based member of the Syrian National Council, an umbrella group of regime opponents.
But Louay Hussein, a prominent dissident based in Damascus, said allowing observers in was “a small step that can be built on and developed.”
“The presence of observers constitutes a protection, however small, for civilians,” he said. Their presence, he said, can help “expose the regime’s lies.”
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-11-18/syria-violence-observer-mission/51297434/1
What do the commentators here think of Louay Hussein?
November 18th, 2011, 4:04 pm
irritated said:
WMD was the Trojan horse for regime change in “rogue state” now it is the POC (protection of civilians)
November 18th, 2011, 4:07 pm
Mango said:
??? ??????? !!!!!
http://powerpointparadise.com/blog/2011/08/the-sarkozy-bernard-levi-qatar-emir-murders-of-children-must-watch-vdo/
November 18th, 2011, 4:25 pm
N.Z. said:
“We don’t have a Tahrir square, instead we have 210 mini Tahrir protests in 1 one day. Each with tens of thousands.”
The bravery of these Syrian protesters is legendary, taking in account the brutality of the regime “insecurity forces”.
November 18th, 2011, 4:39 pm
zoo said:
Egypt: SCAF likely to delay presidential elections until 2013
Egypt fills Tahrir Square, this time with Islamists in lead
In a rally called by the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist groups, one of the largest protests since the fall of Hosni Mubarak demanded a quick end to the military’s rule of Egypt.
By Kristen Chick, Correspondent / November 18, 2011
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/1118/Egypt-fills-Tahrir-Square-this-time-with-Islamists-in-lead
November 18th, 2011, 4:43 pm
irritated said:
# N.Z
210 mini Tahrir with each 10,000 equal more than 2 millions!
Strange! No media reported that astounding number.
November 18th, 2011, 4:49 pm
zoo said:
Can Syria’s president survive?
By Laura Smith-Spark, CNN
November 18, 2011 — Updated 1550 GMT (2350 HKT)
…
Nonetheless, Joshi cautioned against thinking the 46-year-old’s grip on power will be loosened immediately, pointing to the example of Iraq’s former dictator, Saddam Hussein.
In 1991, he said, Hussein had just lost a major war, had two no-fly zones, U.N. sanctions and an oil embargo imposed on his country, was facing an enormous Shia uprising in the south, and endured overwhelming diplomatic isolation.
“And yet he survived for 12 years,” Joshi said. “Regimes that are used to being isolated, that are used to being under sanctions and under pressure, can be extremely resilient.”
Joshi also points out that while al-Assad may well be forced out, that doesn’t necessarily mean the regime will fall with him.
..
Perhaps the biggest danger ahead, the analysts say, is that whether al-Assad goes or not, Syria is teetering on the brink of civil war, as opposition elements such as the Free Syrian army turn to arms to combat pro-government forces.
Such violence lessens the chance of a peaceful resolution to the uprising and smooth shift to democracy — and will undoubtedly lead to greater loss of life.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/18/world/meast/syria-assad-power/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
November 18th, 2011, 4:55 pm
Ya Mara Ghalba said:
#511 JNA asks “What do the commentators here think of Louay Hussein?” I believe the regime tells the truth, whereas Louay Hussien believes the regime tells lies. With regard to Louay Hussein’s policy agenda, I have several comments in the comment section at https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12507 the summary of which is that Louay Hussein has an extremely impoverished policy agenda that doesn’t go beyond “we want to overthrow the regime’s personnel and put Louay Hussein and friends in their stead.” He supports the reforms that the people of Syria want, which are the reforms that are being introduced by the regime, but he’d like to usurp the regime as champion of those reforms.
November 18th, 2011, 4:59 pm
jad said:
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http://www.almanar.com.lb/adetails.php?eid=137056&cid=51&fromval=1&frid=51&seccatid=161&s1=0
November 18th, 2011, 4:59 pm
zoo said:
“In light of the new move by the Arab League, the US, and Europe, the struggle to overthrow Asad may very well succeed, but the struggle to bring about a democratic regime in Syria has been thoroughly defeated.
It was the United States that destroyed Syrian democracy in 1949 when the CIA sponsored the first coup d’état in the country ending democratic rule. It is again the United States that has destroyed the possibility of a democratic outcome of the current popular uprising. My deep condolences to the Syrian people. ”
The struggle for Syria
The Syrian people are being sacrificed at the altar of US imperialism, says author.
Joseph Massad Last Modified: 15 Nov 2011 09:13
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/11/2011111555722772798.html
November 18th, 2011, 5:19 pm
jna said:
518. Ya Mara Ghalbasaid:
#511 JNA asks “What do the commentators here think of Louay Hussein?” I believe the regime tells the truth, whereas Louay Hussien believes the regime tells lies. With regard to Louay Hussein’s policy agenda, I have several comments in the comment section at https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12507 the summary of which is that Louay Hussein has an extremely impoverished policy agenda that doesn’t go beyond “we want to overthrow the regime’s personnel and put Louay Hussein and friends in their stead.” He supports the reforms that the people of Syria want, which are the reforms that are being introduced by the regime, but he’d like to usurp the regime as champion of those reforms.
Ya Mara Ghalba….thanks for your evaluation.
November 18th, 2011, 5:20 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
WHERE IS NAJATI TAYYARA, He did not call for anyone’s murder
Ok, this time I am ahead of the Fans
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???? ????? ?? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ??????? ????? ????????? ???????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? “???? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???????? ????? ??????? ???? ????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?????? ???????”.
You now judge if he is a ….. or not
November 18th, 2011, 5:55 pm
Atheist Syrian Salafist Against Dictatorships said:
Seif-el-Ijram al-Qaddaffi has been caught, according to AJA and a press conference by The Free Libyan Forces, but details are sketchy.
November 19th, 2011, 6:21 am
Atheist Syrian Salafist Against Dictatorships said:
Very interesting that the battalion who caught Seif-al-Ijram was the Khalid-ibn-al-Walid Battalion. Is this a premonition of Homsis being the ones who will get Basshar, Maher and the other criminals?
November 19th, 2011, 6:31 am
Shami said:
Nabil Fayyad,Basam Qadi,Nidal Naisa are of the same kind,these mediocrities belong to bashshar mukhabarat.
November 19th, 2011, 7:12 am
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November 20th, 2011, 1:17 pm
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