Why were the Turks kidnapped in Lebanon and who are the Liwaa Asifat al-Shamal who are holding the Shiites in Syria.

Aron Lund writes:

Liwa Asifat al-Shamal, or the Northern Storm Brigade, is the main group, or one of the main groups, in Aazaz, north of Aleppo and very close to the Turkish border. They’re a mid-sized faction in the northern countryside – not tremendously important to the revolution in general, but a major force in their core area around Aazaz, which is strategically important for rebel logistics.

Their original leadership was involved with border smuggling before the revolution (the late Ammar Dadikhi, “Abu Ibrahim”), but they took up arms pretty early on. They also seem to be quite seriously involved with fighting in the north, as evidenced by the role they played in the Mennagh siege, and they have relations with the SMC and other legit opposition bodies. So despite some shady business, it’s clearly not a “fake” rebel outfit.

Their main importance comes from controlling the Bab al-Salama crossing into Turkey ever since it was captured in 2012. I assume they’ve used that to wield power over (and perhaps extract money, guns, ammo, aid from) foreign sponsors and other battalions using the crossing. At any rate, they grew into a force to be reckoned with after seizing the border post. They’ve also set up a media center there, and help provide security and services for a lot of international visitors who come from Turkey. There’s been some good articles and tv features by people meeting/embedding with their forces, and they got quite a lot of  attention when John McCain dipped in through Bab al-Salama, if you recall that.

Recently they’ve lost some influence, after Liwa al-Tawhid (a much bigger SMC faction which is also from the northern countryside, but quite busy with the war in Aleppo City) forced them to re-negotiate their division of labor, presumably after applying some sort of pressure. According to the new rules, Asifat al-Shamal will have to share control over Bab al-Salama 50-50 with Tawhid. The terms of the deal mean that they have joint control over border facilities & inspections, as well as the responsibility to run checkpoints along the road down towards Aleppo –  and, although it doesn’t say so, they will presumably split any benefits arising from this. The deal also stipulated that Asifat al-Shamal will have to submit to the Aleppo Sharia Commission (a non-SMC judiciary and proto-government in northern Syria, which Tawhid backs along with more radical Islamist factions) in all legal matters/disputes. They hadn’t done that before. Whether the deal has been successfully applied on the ground yet, or at all, I don’t know.

Asifat al-Shamal is also the group that kidnapped a group of Lebanese Shia, who tried to pass through Bab al-Salama in summer 2012, saying they were pilgrims. They’re still holding them. Originally Dadikhi insisted that the Shia were secret agents of Hezbollah, IRGC or some other hostile organziation, but they later seemed to drop that line, since no one believed it. Nowadays they simply say they want female and other prisoners freed in return for releasing the hostages. In practice I assume they’re just after money at this stage, or if it’s a prestige thing, or simply a way to get press attention. Or maybe they really think they’re Hezbollah. I don’t know. Turkey has allegedly been involved in negotiations.

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This is a few days old, but here’s a very interesting pro-government view from the Nubl & Zahra Shia community, of what happened at Mennagh airport at the time of capture:https://www.facebook.com/zhraa.nubbol.n.n/posts/566600950053289.From this description, it seems like a pretty desperate breakout. The SAA forces left 15 men in a “martyrdom” force behind to cover the retreat – all were killed or captured. The others then split into groups and fled towards the few remaining pockets of government control around Mennagh. One group made it to the Shia town of Nubl, but apparently only thanks to air cover from the government, while another fled towards the Kurdish villages of Afrin, where they were granted asylum by the Kurdish YPG forces.

That last part is interesting. The YPG has let it be known that they “captured” a group of fleeing SAA soldiers from Mennagh, and confiscated all their guns and tanks. But this version, which appears to be written by someone in direct contact with the defenders of the airport, says the Kurds saved them, provided hospital care to the wounded, and even ambushed and annihilated a rebel unit that was tailing them (Jabhat al-Nosra by their account, but they call everyone Jabhat al-Nosra). That’s more or less consistent with how the YPG presents its politics: they will provide humanitarian assistance to everyone in need, and are open to negotiated passage, but try to enter Kurdish areas without permission and you’re dead.

But – the Nubl/Zahra pro-gov version also talks about YPG-SAA coordination before the fall of the base, and speaks warmly of the Kurds as their comrades in arms. This  suggests a level of cooperation between the SAA and YPG which undermines YPG attempts to portray themselves as essentially neutral between the Arab sides.

That said, it concerns a very particular region, Afrin, where both Kurdish and Shia villages have been under Arab (particularly Islamist) rebel pressure. So although the situation might seem similar in other places, I’m not sure you can necessarily extrapolate this to other areas.

(Also, here’s the Islamic State communiqué on the capture of Mennagh, if you haven’t seen it: http://jihadology.net/2013/08/07/new-statement-from-the-islamic-state-of-iraq-and-al-sham-on-the-battle-of-the-last-ten-days-liberating-the-mannagh-airbase-in-the-state-of-aleppo)

 

AN Writes:

There was news that an agreement was reached with Liwa Asifat al-Shamal to where a certain number of female detainees would be released from government prisons in exchange for 2 of the 9 hostages before Eid, but negotiations failed. On Friday, first day of Eid for Shiaa muslims, a Shiaa group calling itself “the visitors of the Imam Al Mortada” kidnapped two Turkish pilots in Beirut because they believe that Turkey has the power to release the hostages and is involved in the kidnapping. After the kidnapping, news came out that earlier this month, Turkey had informed that UN that it will pulling part of its UNIFIL contingency out of Lebanon and limiting its participation to Turkish marine forces. Turkish government asked its citizens in Lebanon to leave the country following the kidnapping.

 

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don said:

Little baby girl Maria’s video gone viral on Liveleak! You gotta read the comments posted from all over the world!

Little baby Girl Mary Kidnapped by NATO’s Death Squads is Saved by SAA in Latakia Syria (video)

Last week a group of foreign mercenary terrorists, mostly Saudis and Libyans, raided three villages in Latakia, killing over 100 villagers and taking hostages. They were repulsed by the SAA and some of the hostages liberated.

NATO Death Squads propagandists called the failed murderous raids
“THE FRONT TO LIBERATE THE COAST”.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=256_1376116735

August 11th, 2013, 12:54 am

 

don said:

Bibi Netanyahu Admits his Country’s Alliance with Saudi Arabia

August 11th, 2013, 2:10 am

 

don said:

Muslim Brotherhood switches its focus from Egypt to Syria

CAIRO — Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, ousted from power by the
military, has intensified its participation in the Sunni revolt in Syria.

Islamist sources said the Brotherhood has been recruiting what could
result in thousands of new fighters to battle the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

The sources said the Brotherhood was receiving funds from Saudi Arabia to bolster the embattled rebel movement amid the offensive by the Assad regime.

“There are literally tens of thousands of trained Brotherhood fighters who might prefer to receive handsome salaries to fight Assad in Syria rather
than the military in Egypt,” a source said.

Under the year-long regime of Egypt’s first Islamist president, Mohammed Morsi, most of the Brotherhood fighters stayed home in expectation of jobs in the government and security forces. But after Morsi was overthrown on July 3, many fighters traveled to the Sinai Peninsula and other locations for insurgency operations that included Al Qaida-aligned forces.

The Brotherhood already has been coordinating with units in Hama,
regarded as the main stronghold of the Islamist movement. The sources said
Hama was used to store weapons and equipment allocated to an
expected rebel offensive later in 2013.

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/08/09/muslim-brotherhood-switches-its-focus-from-egypt-to-syria/

August 11th, 2013, 2:25 am

 

Sami said:

Aron Lund,

“That last part is interesting. The YPG has let it be known that they “captured” a group of fleeing SAA soldiers from Mennagh, and confiscated all their guns and tanks. But this version, which appears to be written by someone in direct contact with the defenders of the airport, says the Kurds saved them, provided hospital care to the wounded, and even ambushed and annihilated a rebel unit that was tailing them.”

This video should clear that up rather easily…

August 11th, 2013, 8:52 am

 

revenire said:

I would like to wish the courageous and beautiful Syrian First Lady Asma al-Assad a very happy birthday. May God protect you.

August 11th, 2013, 9:29 am

 

zoo said:

The rise of al-Qaeda proxies in Syria has weakened the FSA and opposition and now threatens Turkey.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/global-guerilla-war-can-infect-turkey.aspx?pageID=449&nID=52292&NewsCatID=409

Al-Nusra’s rise also brought a power struggle within al-Qaeda to the surface; between the headquarters and al-Qaeda in Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), which was formed in 2009 with the merger of the Saudi Arabia and Yemen branches lead by Naser al-Wuhayshi. Serving as private secretary for bin Laden in earlier years, al-Wuhayshi had been arrested by Iran in 2001 and extradited to Yemen, where he was put in prison. He broke out of the prison in 2006 to lead the regional activities, including the piracy in the Indian Ocean and al-Shabbab in Somalia. (Perhaps it should be noted here that Turkish Embassy in Mogadishu was attacked by al-Shabbab on July 28, 2013, killing one police officer and wounding three.) The main discrepancy between the al-Qaeda HQ in Afghanistan and the AQAP is that the HQ insists on hitting global blows to the U.S. and its allies, whereas al-Wuhayshi and followers want to focus on their national problems such as overthrowing the regimes in Yemen and Saudi Arabia. No longer resisting to the popularity of al-Wuhayshi among the organization, al-Zawahiri reportedly appointed recently him as “general manager,” which practically means number two of al-Qaeda.

U.S. intelligence apparently intercepted the communications between them and deducted that al-Wuhayshi was going to do something big in order to prove himself as eligible for the important post. Another piece of intelligence, according to U.S. media are the reports on the possible use of a liquid explosive, developed by Ibrahim al-Asiri, the assumed bomber of al-Wuhayshi that could be soaked into clothes, like underwear, and not easy to detect. Plus, al-Qaeda raided prisons in Iraq, Pakistan and Libya in late July and let hundreds of militants free. All those things lead the U.S. government to put many embassies on alert on Aug. 5, evacuate some of them, including the one in Sanaa, Yemen, and then start launching pre-emptive strikes at al-Qaeda.

This is a new stage of the global guerilla war that started with the al-Qaeda hit of 9/11 in 2011. Turkey was hit by al-Qaeda twice in 2003 in bloody attacks. But because of the deteriorating situations in Syria and Iraq, Turkey can be further infected by this poisonous atmosphere, which means more problems for Prime Minister Tayyip Erdo?an in the near future.

August 11th, 2013, 9:31 am

 

Mjabali said:

Mr Lund good work about a topic many like not to speak about . Or actually they pretend that the sectarian attacks against Nubl and alZahra do not occur .

The Sunni Jihadists and those from the villages around the Shia villages been shelling for over a year so far . It is a sectarian war over there and the kooks here think it does not happen .

Few days ago one of them used the word “conquer” to speak about the Sunni intentions for these two villages who are left. How many Shia villages were there around alleppo who had been eradicated by the Sunnis. Aren’t they doing the same now? Some here on this board has to take their heads out of the sand ( notice I did not use the word they deserve ) and see how this violent Sunni attitude is a Continuation of what they have been doing for hundred of years.

Again mr Lund great work .

August 11th, 2013, 10:02 am

 

Mjabali said:

Observer:

After reading your long and boring outburst I have few simple points to dismantle your logic:

1- you told the Alawis in your posts to get out of ‘your’ towns and ‘villages’. Dude I thought it was your grand father who was speaking . Wasn’t he involved in sectarian cleansing of Alawites and other minorities ? Do you still think that the ottoman gifts are valid these days ?

2- you seem not seeing or bypassing the sectarian aspect of this war in Syria . You are like most of the Sunnis think things with the monitored are great . Dude wake up and read the books that explain the Sunni overall mode of thinking . I recommend reading Fatawa al Thawra al Suriyah it was published this year and not a thousand years ago.

4- mr observer : if you do not agree with me or my ideas sarcasm shows you have no solid response . Last time I checked you claimed that you are well read . What happened ?

5- the hidden text within your response, to apply an Alawi theory on you , shows the continuation of the disdain the Sunnis have for Alawis .

6- ethnically you are a Kurd : how come you consider Damascus as your home and deny it for the Alawis, who ethnically are Syrians . Don’t you see this attitude amongst you Sunnis up till today . Remember how many Alawis lived in and around Damascus till they were exterminated by your exact group? Is it a continuation for the ‘conquer them’ attitude ?

7- as for me and my ideas : it seems you want to forget that I am from day one , and from the day I was born do not like anything but democracy and freedom .

Sorry to post this reply in this thread, but it is a related matter.

August 11th, 2013, 10:24 am

 

revenire said:

Israeli commander: Hezbollah more ready than ever for any war

An Israeli commander has admitted that involvement of Lebanon’s Hezbollah in the fight against Takfiris in Syria has increased the defensive capabilities of the resistance movement for any future aggression by the Israeli regime.

“Hezbollah’s involvement in the war in Syria has not disrupted its preparedness for a war with Israel – the opposite is true,” said Colonel Yaron Formosa, a chief artillery officer of the Israeli regime, in an interview with Ynetnews on Wednesday.

He added that Hezbollah is closely monitoring the Israeli army’s activities along the border.

“We saw them marking the positions of our artillery guns so they can target them in a war,” Formosa said.

He added that Hezbollah fighters have become proficient in the use of advanced weapons due to the fighting against the militants in Syria.

“Hezbollah has tens of thousands of rockets that are aimed at Israel, and we will not be able to operate against them only with artillery fire or the air force.”

The Tel Aviv regime launched two wars on Lebanon in 2000 and 2006. About 1,200 Lebanese, most of them civilians, were killed in the 33-Day War of 2006.

On both occasions, however, Hezbollah fighters defeated the Israeli forces and Tel Aviv was forced to retreat without achieving any of its objectives.

In August 2012, Hezbollah Secretary General Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah said that the resistance movement has both the capability and the courage to defend Lebanon and that the movement’s missiles are ready to strike back certain targets inside Israel in self-defense if Tel Aviv launches an attack on Lebanon.

“If we are forced to use them to protect our people and our country, we will not hesitate to do so… and that will turn the lives of hundreds of thousands of Zionists into a living hell,” Nasrallah said, adding that Hezbollah has fixed its targets.

He also said that a possible future war would be extremely costly for Israel and incomparable with its 2006 war on Lebanon.

DB/HSN/HMV
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/11/318192/hezbollah-ready-to-counter-israel/

August 11th, 2013, 10:27 am

 

Alan said:

Majed ! Are you happy ?

US remains ‘uninterested’ as Kurds massacred by Syria’s militant opposition
http://rt.com/op-edge/us-kurds-massacre-syria-289/

Deadly Onslaught: Kurds in firing line as Al-Qaeda carves out northern
http://youtu.be/APTzMdO9CoE?t=7s

August 11th, 2013, 10:30 am

 

Alan said:

Armed Rebels Hijack Passenger Bus Carrying Armenian Citizens in Northern Syria
The passenger bus was heading to Armenia before its driver and all passengers on board were kidnapped and taken to an unknown location by the terrorist groups.

August 11th, 2013, 10:46 am

 

omen said:

287. Syrian said: Help wanted
Apple mini ”hardly a massacre” is looking for ”moderates Sunnis” to go do the fighting for the minorities rule.
Opposition moderates need not apply.

i am so stealing this format.

August 11th, 2013, 10:46 am

 
 

omen said:

7. Mjabali said: Few days ago one of them used the word “conquer” to speak about the Sunni intentions for these two villages who are left.

“assad or syria burns.”

How many Shia villages were there around alleppo who had been eradicated by the Sunnis. Aren’t they doing the same now? Some here on this board has to take their heads out of the sand (notice I did not use the word they deserve) and see how this violent Sunni attitude is a Continuation of what they have been doing for hundred of years.

you see what took place hundreds of years ago but not what the regime has been waging for the past two years.

August 11th, 2013, 10:58 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Mjabali said:

it seems you want to forget that I am from day one , and from the day I was born do not like anything but democracy and freedom .

Mjabali,

The sad reality is that NO democracy or freedom would be possible without the foreign fighters, who are engaging other foreign fighters like Hezbollah and the IRG.

The opposition wants the same thing you do, and no one here supports the crimes committed by some of these fighters.

I am not sure what your beef is.

August 11th, 2013, 11:12 am

 

Alan said:

Jihadists – Mujahideen !
Take it as entitlement from this soldier!
http://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/idf2.jpg?w=620
Israel to start building nearly 1,200 new units in West Bank and East Jerusalem

August 11th, 2013, 11:46 am

 

Alan said:

@miniestmini
Zionists are natural thieves, they’ve stolen Palestine, occupied parts of Lebanon & Syria but they’ve still got their eyes on more land.

August 11th, 2013, 12:07 pm

 

don said:

Care to tell us more about who you’re calling TOWEL-HEADS?

15. Akbar Palace from Israel

August 11th, 2013, 12:11 pm

 

ziad said:

Brutality Is “In My Veins,” Says Former Israeli Soldier

Chayut served five years in the Israeli army. He participated in the brutal military Operation Defensive Shield, an attack on the West Bank in 2002.

No longer part of the army, he joined the Israeli organization for military veterans Breaking the Silence in 2004. In his memoir, Chayut reflects on his role in the crimes committed by Israeli forces against Palestinians living under occupation.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35810.htm

August 11th, 2013, 12:21 pm

 

omen said:

akbar, allow me to translate. loyalists suffer from the delusion that the goon was legitimately elected. they are for democracy as long as bashar is permanently installed as president.

August 11th, 2013, 12:22 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Care to tell us more about who you’re calling TOWEL-HEADS?

Don,

Sure. Like I said before, any religious fundamdentalist that doesn’t support basic human rights and free elections, but instead supports thugs, criminals and endless war.

Omen,

I didn’t know Mjabali was a “loyalist”. Mjabali is that true?

Here’s the link to breaking the silence…

http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

August 11th, 2013, 12:27 pm

 

ziad said:

Palestinian Killed By Army Fire In Gaza

Saturday August 10 2013, Israeli military sources have reported that a Palestinian youth was shot and killed by army fire, near the border fence, east of the Gaza Strip.

http://imemc.org/article/65938

August 11th, 2013, 12:28 pm

 

ziad said:

Stop the Appointment of Death Squad Expert Robert Ford, Kerry’s Choice to Become Next US Ambassador to Egypt

http://tarpley.net/2013/08/10/stop-the-appointment-of-death-squad-expert-robert-ford/

August 11th, 2013, 12:40 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenire
I too wish Asma Assad a happy last and final birthday,

August 11th, 2013, 1:03 pm

 

revenire said:

Those who sell their homeland are not welcome, Palestinians say to Asala Nasri

Occupied Palestine, (SANA)-A security alert state was prevailed with a popular resentment in Bethlehem in the occupied Palestine as singer Asala Nasri visited the city to hold a concert there.

Political activists, members at the popular committee for defending Syria in the occupied Palestine raised placards condemning the singer’s suspicious visit, particularly as the Palestinian people reject normalization with the Israeli occupation and consider any Arab visitor as a traitor to Palestine as she enters Palestine with an Israeli visa.

“Those who sell their homeland are not welcome” one of the placards said… “It is not strange for those who normalize with the Israeli occupation to betray their land,” another placard said.

The most important attitude was occurred by members of the popular committee inside the hall when Nasri started to sing and the activists raised the Syrian flags and hailed Syria and its army.

This led to the embarrassment of Nasri who stopped singing and turned her back to her musical band in a sign for the security of Bethlehem to interfere as a number of men were arrested for several hours.

“We wanted to send a message to anyone who seeks normalization with Israel and to any traitor, not only to that singer which sold her homeland… we issued a statement condemning the visit of anyone who seeks normalization with Israel in general and to that singer in particular,” one Member of the popular committee for defending Syria said.

Mazen
http://sana.sy/eng/28/2013/08/11/496744.htm

August 11th, 2013, 1:14 pm

 

don said:

Saudi Muslim Preacher Issues Fatwa Allowing Jihadis to Rape Syrian Women

August 11th, 2013, 2:04 pm

 

don said:

ANNA News

August 11th, 2013, 2:14 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

SALIM IDRIS visit reef Latakia is a good sign,

Don(Ann) Rape in Islam is punishable by death, no Sheikh can issue a fatwa contrary to Quraan, for a woman to be forced to mary her rapist is double crime in Islam, so please spare us your nonsense

August 11th, 2013, 3:06 pm

 

don said:

Report Sinai militias have SAM-7 closes Israeli tourist airport

TEL AVIV — Israel’s military has closed an international airport
amid fear of a major rocket strike from Egypt.

Officials said Sinai militias have acquired shoulder-fired air defense missiles, including the SAM-7. Eilat has been struck several times by surface-to-surface rocket fire, the last time on July 4.

Eilat airport was deemed a likely target of Al Qaida in Sinai.

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/08/09/report-sinai-militias-have-sams-closes-israeli-tourist-airport/

August 11th, 2013, 3:11 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed we know our women are being raped by the cannibals. They’re not real Muslims. They are apostates. God knows too.

August 11th, 2013, 3:21 pm

 

revenire said:

THIRD POST – AUGUST 11, 2013 – LATAKIA SCENE OF “BIN LADEN’S” DEATH; SAUDI RODENT LEADER KILLED HIDING BESIDE CIVILIANS; ____* ADMIT DEFEAT IN LATAKIA

And just when you thought you could stop guffawing over the silly operation that killed King Kong Ape Usaamaa Bin Laaden, you get to see what his clone looks like with 40 bullets in his simian abdomen. According to Wael, the scene is pretty ugly. This Saudi Scarabian, who fought in Afghanistan, training against Americans, got full support from his quondam adversaries when he switched to Syria. He then became in American parlance, a freedom-fighter. His name?

ABU MAALEK AL-SHAHRI (real name pending)

Oh, he was a right-hand man for the illustrious son of Hashemite Jordan, Abu Mus’ab Al-Zarqawi whose exploits inspired him with scenes of video-taped beheadings, serious looking, bearded men in masks posing like something in a Salafist GQ monthly, and blowing up buildings, well, just for the heck of it. He was called the “Bin Laden of Syria” and, apparently, knew Bin Laden personally. Wow! That must have been inspiring!

Known as a mass murderer and sociopath by everyone who met him (other than fellow sociopaths of whom there are many in Syria), he carved out a niche in the pornographic world of “snuff films”. He particularly liked to kill everyone who was not a Wahhabist/Salafist/Takfiri moron like himself and his child-molesting father.

He was shot by SAA sharpshooters with the same 23mm machine gun cannons our army keeps confiscating from the rats. Good show. Keep up the good work!!

** http://syrianperspective.blogspot.com/2013/08/third-post-august-11-2013-latakia-scene.html

* censored

**please go to the link because I had to censor this one pretty badly to appease the terrorist supporters on staff.

August 11th, 2013, 3:28 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

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August 11th, 2013, 3:30 pm

 

sf94123 said:

Syrians Sunnis are to blame for the death and distraction of Syria- They sheltered and protected foreign jihadists- In mater fact, hey let them sleep with their wives and kids in the name of Allah- Sunnis who live in relatively safe areas must be treated as suspects until they prove themselves otherwise- No free lunch for you!

August 11th, 2013, 3:52 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Informed analysis showing Assad has won nothing, isn’t winning and lacks the capacity to conclusively win.

“Opposition advances in Damascus”

http://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/opposition-advances-damascus

August 11th, 2013, 4:03 pm

 

don said:

My mistake majedkhaldoun(Ann)

I meant to say Saudi Christian Sheikh Muhammed al-Arifi Issues Fatwa Allowing Christian Jihadis to Rape Syrian Women

Again, that’s Christian Sheikh Muhammed al-Arifi not Muslim Sheikh Muhammed al-Arifi

My apologies to the board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qvo4_hMrF4

28. majedkhaldoun(Ann) said: .. Rape in Islam is punishable by death, no Sheikh can issue a fatwa contrary to Quraan

August 11th, 2013, 4:12 pm

 

revenire said:

Gee, what a surprise from ISW.

Yawn.

August 11th, 2013, 4:14 pm

 

apple_mini said:

On a recent article on Guardian, Joshua Landis made a comment,”Sectarian identity is a large part of Syrians, and it gets imported to America,” he said. “Anti-Assad is just a code word for Sunni, for people who don’t like to speak about it.”

I’m sure Joshua was not referring to those democracy and freedom loving Syrian expats on his site like he really cares.

Since day one when we heard those people hailing military and money support from democracy and freedom loving Qatar and Saudi, we started taking notes for what was really going on.

The situation has reached to the point some of those Sunni have to make a choice. Are they willing to see Syria to disintegrate and part of her being taken over by a bunch of vicious medieval barbarians? Or they will finally have to forsake their narrow-minded and backward religious crap for a while not for the sake of the minorities or humanity but for the sake of themselves?

Those barbarians are truly scum of human race. A religion which can nurture and feed those waste is fundamentally flawed.

August 11th, 2013, 4:32 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Rumors out there that glamor defector Manaf Tlass may head the new Syrian army, accepted by the West and Saudi Arabia and approved by Russia.

And why not. He’d be a ballistic psychological weapon against his former friends the Assad brothers and their sinister Iranian advisers.

Give him plenty of cigars and hair products, a mirror to check how he looks, and don’t require him to do much thinking – it could work.

This might be hard for many in the Syrian opposition to swallow, but much, much harder for the Assad regime.

[Putin’s behind the scenes face saver is that he has no personal allegiance to Assad and just wants to avoid a power vacuum in Syria.]

August 11th, 2013, 4:32 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE

Let’s have your intelligible sources to counteract what I’ve posted in #34.

There aren’t any, are there.

August 11th, 2013, 4:35 pm

 

habib said:

To the hypocrites who keep raving on about an “Israeli/Assad alliance”:

Since the FSA and other Jihadis are so close to the Israeli border (even inside Golan), why haven’t they attacked Israel, even once?

And don’t give me “they are focusing on the regime” crap, because then they wouldn’t be fighting the Kurds now, would they

August 11th, 2013, 4:38 pm

 

Tara said:

More defeat for the Syrian army. The Syrian army is only heroic from a distance. Cowardice prevails when they come close.

http://www.aljazeera.net/mob/f6451603-4dff-4ca1-9c10-122741d17432/c274ed91-6eb0-4537-91ea-72f74d49c441

????? ???? ???????? ??????? ???? ????? ?? ??????? ??? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????? ??????? ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ????? ??????? ?? ???????? ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ?? ??? ????????.

???? ????? ???????? ?????? ?? ???????? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ???????? ?????? ??? ???????? ???????? ?? ???????? ???? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ?????? ?? ??? ‘?????’ ??????? ?????.

????? ???? ???????? ?? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ???????? ???? ???????? ?? ????? ??????? ???? ????.

??? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ?? 40 ?? ????? ??? ???? ???????? ???????? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ‘???? ???’ ?? ???? ?????? ??? ??????? ?? ????.

????? ????
??? ??? ???????? ??? ?????? ??????? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ????????? ????????? ?? ?????? ???????? ??? ??????? ???? ????? ????? ????????.

?? ????, ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ???????? ??? ??? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ????????, ????? ??? ????? ?? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ????????.

???? ????? ???? ??? ???? ?? ??????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ??? ????????, ???? ?????? ???? ????? ???????.

August 11th, 2013, 5:11 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrialover,

I don’t care about the ISW. It is a Western neocon rumor mill. Elizabeth O’Bagy looks like she is about 17. She writes propaganda pieces.

http://www.understandingwar.org/press-media/staff-bios/elizabeth-obagy

If this ISW report helps you then please, by all means, enjoy it.

The war will be won, or lost. After it is over ISW can write more reports like this.

The trouble you have, if I might be so bold, is after years of this everyone had heard these things 1000 times. I imagine you were one of the experts who said Assad would be defeated in a few weeks, or months.

For our edification:

http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/institute_for_the_study_of_war

Founded in 2007, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) is a Washington, D.C.-based think tank that has supported long-term U.S. military intervention abroad, particularly in Iraq and Afghanistan. Although closely connected to neoconservative advocacy circles, ISW claims to be “a non-partisan, non-profit, public policy research organization” devoted to advancing “an informed understanding of military affairs through reliable research, trusted analysis, and innovative education.”[1]

As of early 2013, ISW did not publicize on its website the members of its board of directors. However, according to 2011 tax documents, directors included: ISW founder and president Kim Kagan; Elizabeth Cheney, daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney and founder of the right-wing advocacy group Keep America Safe; William Kristol, editor of the neoconservative flagship magazine the Weekly Standard; Jack Keane, a retired four-star general who coauthored with Kim Kagan’s spouse Frederick Kagan of the American Enterprise Institute “Choosing Victory,” a 2007 study that served as a blueprint for the “surge” in Iraq; Dennis Showalter, a military historian; Hal Hirsch; and Bill Roberti.

===

This means ISW is “no good”, lol. I say that so even opposition supporters can understand it.

It is like reading a child’s comic book. If you get all worked up over this stuff that’s nice. I will see you in Damascus.

August 11th, 2013, 5:12 pm

 

revenire said:

Same with the Tlass rumor. Boring and ridiculous.

Why not make up really crazy garbage SL?. It would sound more realistic than coming here to tell us you know what Russia etc. has agreed to because some Twitter clown told you so.

Why not tell me there is a popular revolution of secular forces in Syria? I’d even laugh at that one.

LOL

August 11th, 2013, 5:14 pm

 

Tara said:

Reve,

Ah.. You Have very high standards. Only news reported by Wael and Ziad live up to your media expectations.

How old is Asma now?

August 11th, 2013, 5:18 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Don (Ann)
If Arifi said that then he is Kafir, and should be punished,by exposing him,I did not hear it directly from him

Also the word
??? ???? ???? ?? ??????

August 11th, 2013, 5:24 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

RE: Recent pictures of Asma helping prepare food packs.

*THINKS* Look at her…enthusiastically playing along with the propaganda.

August 11th, 2013, 5:27 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

A lot of serious weaponry is reportedly falling into rebel hands recently with the capture of weapon depots & warehouses.

Perhaps this explains why the US and Russia appear worried and formed an understanding on the urgency in avoiding ‘institutional collapse’ and getting Geneva II done.

August 11th, 2013, 5:52 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair was that on YouTube or Twitter?

August 11th, 2013, 6:05 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Typical Arab Despot “Do as I say, not as I do” NewZ

From the SANA news network:

“We wanted to send a message to anyone who seeks normalization with Israel* and to any traitor, not only to that singer which sold her homeland… 

*of course Sheppardstown negotiations with Baathist/Assad Syria doesn’t count.

August 11th, 2013, 6:08 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE, ouch! did you get stung by that analysis on why Assad can’t win (#34)!

We’re still waiting for an equivalent standard of analysis that supports your jokester assertions.

Likewise the reports about Tlass (#38) have really agitated you. “Boring” eh? Let’s see.

Keep up the clown act. When it’s all over for your “team” we know you’ll just slither back into the cyber shadows, hanging out for another online hoax assignment.

August 11th, 2013, 6:08 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrialover keep waiting.

August 11th, 2013, 6:15 pm

 

don said:

Are you talking about your Arab TOWEL-HEADS again?!

49. Akbar Palace from apartheid Israel

August 11th, 2013, 6:28 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

48. Revenire

‘Uzair was that on YouTube or Twitter?’

Granted the source may not reach their standard but still is of acceptable level:

AJE Syria blog from 9th August:

Kerry and Lavrov press ahead with Geneva 2 peace talk plan despite strained relations.

Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov has said that he and US Secretary of State John Kerry have agreed to convene the Geneva 2 international conference on Syria as soon as possible.

Kerry and Lavrov held a five-hour meeting in Washington on Friday for so-called “2+2” strategic and security talks on Friday.

“One thing I would emphasise is that while Sergey and I do not always agree completely on responsibility for the bloodshed or on some of the ways forward both of us in our countries agree that to avoid institutional collapse and dissent into chaos the ultimate answer is a negotiated political solution and Geneva 2 conference is a step toward that solution,” Kerry said.

American and Russian ties have been deeply strained over Moscow’s decision to grant asylum to former US spy agency contractor Edward Snowden.

Lavrov described the overall mood of the talks as very positive.

August 11th, 2013, 6:28 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair Al Jazeera – very good. They’re not biased at all. Of course, that one didn’t say anything did it? A meeting.

Both sides will get weapons to kill each other with. The West will continue to arm the rebels.

1000s more civilians will die in the crossfire.

August 11th, 2013, 6:30 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

A wonderful singer

August 11th, 2013, 6:31 pm

 

Ghufran said:

The resentment against damascene people among rebels is growing , there is hardly a day now without mortars fired randomly at parts of Damascus that are under regime control, most of the victims are civilians. Read this fatwa and you will understand why those sheikhs deserve long prison sentences:
( a copy of the fatwa with names and signatures of the thugs behind it is online)
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???? ?? ??????:
????? ?? ???? ???? ????..  ????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ???????? ??????:
–    ?????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ????? ??????? ???? ???? ??? ????? ?? ????? ???????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ????????.
–    ?????? ????????? ?? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ???.

August 11th, 2013, 6:35 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Dear Don

I don’t believe you even introduced yourself to the SC community. 🙂
You went straight into posting articles*. A tad rude?

* spamming

August 11th, 2013, 6:38 pm

 

omen said:

cowardice? or lack of loyalty to the regime?

are they running away but regrouping elsewhere?

weren’t deserters threatened with execution if they attempted to escape before? where are the enforcers?

what are the number soldiers fleeing? hundreds?

August 11th, 2013, 6:44 pm

 

Tara said:

I believe all the fatwas posted on SC are regime fabricated to make it sound like it is a religious war.

The regime and its dupporters are only fooling themselves . The “moderate” opposition ain’t buying it.

The media dept of the opposition should respond in the same fashion and fabricate statement from the regime and its sheiks.

August 11th, 2013, 6:44 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

#54 Revenire

Were you asking about the claims about weapons. I thought you may have asked about the US/Russia ‘institutional collapse’ point.

About the capture of weapons. In recent days there was a video of rebels showing off piles of what was described as significant weaponry. The video was shared on here by someone and also made it on AJE blog.

A few comments ago Tara also shared an AJE arabic piece about presumably another capture of weapon warehouse(s) which I checked on google translate.

Thus my comment about rebels capturing important weaponry and worry in Washington and Moscow.

August 11th, 2013, 6:48 pm

 

Ghufran said:

This is from Douma revolution page ??????? ????

??????? ????? ????????????????????????????????? :: ?????? ????? ???? ????

????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ??????? ??????? …. ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ?? ??? ????? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?? ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? ?? ????? ????? …. ????? ??????? ??? ???????? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ?????????? ??????????? ????????? ????????? ?? ???? ??????? ?????? ??? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? …. ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ??????? ???? ?? ??????? ?????? ???? ?? ????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????? …. ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ??????? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ??????? ??? ???????? ??????????? ?????? ???????? ????? ??????? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ?????? ????????? …. ????? ???? ?? ??? ????? ??? ????? ?? ???? ???? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ???? ??????? ????? …. ????? ??????? ??????? ?????? ????? ?????? ????? ?? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??????? ??????? …. ?????? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ???? .

August 11th, 2013, 6:49 pm

 
 

Uzair8 said:

Regimists don’t seem so keen on elections or voting however they seem ever keen to participate in polls on SC and elsewhere.

You only have to look at previous SC polls (eg about predictions of regime collapse) to see almost always the regimists option is leading in the polls.

August 11th, 2013, 7:20 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Rev

There was a video in recent days showing rebels showing off piles of what was described as significant weaponry captured in warehouse (in Damascus countryside I think). The video link was shared on here by someone and even made it on AJE blog.

Tara shared an arabic AJE article a few comments ago about presumably another weapon warehouse(s) capture.

August 11th, 2013, 7:25 pm

 

don said:

NATOs Death Squads holding women and children hostage and human shields

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=420_1376256912

August 11th, 2013, 7:25 pm

 

zoo said:

The collusion between the FSA and the Jihadists against the Kurds is exposed.

Syrian rebels pass on abducted Kurds to jihadists: NGO

http://thepeninsulaqatar.com/middle-east/248542-syrian-rebels-pass-on-abducted-kurds-to-jihadists-ngo.html

BEIRUT: Syrian rebel fighters kidnapped 13 Kurds in the northern province of Aleppo on Sunday, turning them over to jihadist fighters already holding 250 abducted Kurds, an NGO said.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the 13 were snatched at a roadblock in the Sfeira region of Aleppo and passed them on to Al Nusra Front, a jihadist group affiliated with Al Qaeda.

Al Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), another Al Qaeda-linked group operating in Syria, have abducted more than 250 Syrian Kurds since the end of July.
..
Syria’s Kurds have been battling jihadist fighters for months in northern and northeastern Syria, where the minority hopes to establish an autonomous zone.

The clashes have intensified since mid-July, when Kurdish fighters pushed jihadists out of the village of Ras Al Ain and its adjacent border crossing with Turkey.
..
Rebel groups largely welcomed the arrival of jihadist organisations like Nusra, which includes foreign fighters among its ranks, in the early days of their armed uprising against the regime that has cost more than 100,000 lives since March 2011.

But initial enthusiasm for the supplies and fighting skills of the groups has waned amid accusations of abuses by members of Nusra and ISIS.

August 11th, 2013, 7:27 pm

 

zoo said:

Majed

“SALIM IDRIS visit reef Latakia is a good sign”

Poor guy, all he whined and he begged from the US and he got a tap on the back and the task of building a clean “National” army composed exclusively of Arab Sunnis and paid by Saudi Arabia.
I really feel sorry for him.
Like the others, Ryad al Assad and Cie, he will soon fall on his nose and next into oblivion.

August 11th, 2013, 7:39 pm

 

don said:

ALEPPO MAJOR TERRORIST LEADER CAPTURED! ALI BILLU SPILLS HIS GUTS ON TELEVISION; WHAT A SCANDAL!

REMEMBER HIM? HE’S THE ONE WHO GOT ON AL-JAZEERA AND WELCOMED “ISRAELI INTERVENTION” AND VOWED THAT “AMERICA WOULD JOIN IN AND DESTROY HIZBULLAH”!!!

HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN. HE HAS BEEN CAPTURED BY THE SYRIAN ARMY
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BRANCH IN ALEPPO AND HE’S SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE TODAY.

He is the virulent bigot, ALI BILLU, who made a name for himself
by operating a criminal racket in Aleppo in which he worked primarily as a shake-down artist for a billionaire mafia boss whose days are numbered.

Billu took protection money in much the same way the Mafia did in Old New York during the early 20th Century. He claimed to have 2,000 fighters in an organization called: “Ahraar Sooriyya” (Free Citizens of Syria). They were not around to help him apparently.

He was uncovered while sleeping during the hottest time of the day in an area just north of ‘Anadaan in Aleppo. The big hero of the “Revolution” was discovered with psychedelic drugs and codeine pills which he told our MI people were for a “serious back problem”. That will be the least of his concerns as MI goes about the business of asking the “questions both ordinary and
extraordinary”. Good show, Military Intel!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f52_1376255531

August 11th, 2013, 7:42 pm

 

Tara said:

Syrian

” help wanted” post.

Loved it. Smart and funny!

A rare combo among loyalists.

August 11th, 2013, 7:48 pm

 

Ghufran said:

I think it is remarkable that the Ghazal family and alawites in general have abstained from responding to the kidnapping and beating of one of their sheikhs in the manner desired by takfiris. The anger should be directed at the kidnappers and nusra terrorists not against innocent Sunnis in Latakia who are in a very difficult situation now and they deserve support and help like most Syrians who are victims of this unjust war. There will be a day when most Syrians realize that they were used by both the regime and takkfiris.

August 11th, 2013, 7:48 pm

 

Syrian said:

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1 hour ago ·
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………

https://m.facebook.com/Douma.Revolution/about?__user=100003131418721

August 11th, 2013, 8:08 pm

 

Syrian said:

Tara
Thanks,
You can add desperate to their resume,now making up fatwas from DON/ANN to Ghuffran.

Omen: it’s all yours, thanks for your great support.

August 11th, 2013, 8:23 pm

 

Observer said:

Mjabali

I loved your comment.

I am always pleased to hear from you a few others on this post.

Let me explain:

1. There is no such thing as a Syrian National Identity. It was gutted after at least forty years of one clan rule.

2. The legitimacy of this and other regimes based on force and in the absence of the rule of law and the will of the people is non existent. Was non existent and is ever more non existent today.

3. I am an atheist, and I have zero Kurdish identity. I grew up breathing and eating and drinking Arab Nationalism. I am not Sunni or anything else for that matter.

4. I would love for the oppressed to be free of oppression. If as it is being proved in front of our eyes and you certainly agree fully with me, that we cannot live together in this illusion of a mosaic of cultures and ethnicities and religious groups under one umbrella of a national identity, then let us spit PEACEFULLY. There is no need for fighting. After two years of pure losers on both sides I would agree fully with you that the realistic thing to have is an Alawi homeland where freedom and security reign.

5. If the remaining Syrians want to be Sunnis and Turkmen and Druze and Shia each in his homeland/canton/province/village so be it. There are many examples of countries that spilt into city states and some are prosperous: Monaco, Singapoor, Macau, Hong Kong, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and I would argue Beirut attached to a rump Lebanon.

6. I want the principality of Damascus for example. I want peace and freedom and prosperity and human efforts directed at commerce, science, health, education, entertainment, etc….

7. I agree with you fully that there are extreme ideology on ALL sides of exclusion of the other to justify slaughter, slavery, destruction, etc….

8. The reality is we are going into a fifty year religious war.

You and I are actually in agreement on most anything.

As for my ancestors, I dare say some were great fathers and grand fathers; others were great womanizers, others still were incurable gamblers, some were outright nearly mad with their eccentricities from having eagles and chimpanzees as pets to living nearly in wild conditions most of the year. One even used to go hunting in Africa every other year. Being most likely gay, that was great excuse for him to live nearly 20 years away from his home. Many were alcoholics, but benign ones that never harmed but themselves. Last but not least only my great aunt was religious in a very deep and nearly messianic sense. All the others never prayed or went to the mosque. As a matter of fact I was never taught how to pray at home. The school religious class under the Baath taught me how. To this day, I never understood what that means.

So, I do know that you and I can join hands above and beyond religious bigotry. I am just amazed how an intelligent, erudite, and deep historian like you can get caught in the trap of sectarianism that the fanatics keeping springing in front of us.

There was, is, will never be anything called Syria. There is a medieval clannish country besieged by dark and violent ideologies that are on the wrong side of history.

So join me in a glass of wine in about five years from now to celebrate freedom and prosperity. I say five years being an optimist. More like 10 in reality.

Go forth and prosper as the Vulcan would say in Star Trek.

August 11th, 2013, 8:50 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Joshua is right, the FSA is now able to pose for pictures after terrorists do the dirty work. Rebel supporters were lobbying for an invasion similar to that of Iraq and when Obama refused they cried foul, they said it is unfair that the USA invaded Iraq and removed a Sunni dictator but did notbdi the same when the dictator was an alawite.
This is not a revolution, it is an insurgency fueled by terrorists and their financiers in the GCC.
On the subject of Douma :
Notice how the ” real statement” by Douma sheikhs dodged the issue of property confiscation and how Syrian forgot to include the comment by Sandra Soso about the subject. I do not know of any other religious group that calls religious clerks ” Ulamaa”.
Douma today has no presence of anybody who did not submit to the takfiris, people who did not like the new Talibans were either killed or ran away and left their homes and possessions after that was considered ????? by the same sheikhs some of you are defending. Sheikhs from the same pool of ibn taymia fans club gave a green light for rebels to bomb Salamiyyah , again. 11 innocent Syrians lost their lives when those animals shelled a busy street in town, I guess this piece of news is ” irrelevant”.

August 11th, 2013, 8:52 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Syrian
Anything that Ghufran says is fabrication and lies, thank you for correcting his fabrications

August 11th, 2013, 9:13 pm

 

Ghufran said:

According to SOHR , an anti regime source, revels arrested Kurds and gave them to nusra:
19:56 ?????? ?????? : ??????? ?????? ??????? 13 ????? ????????? ??????? ??????
You have to be blind for you not to see that rebels are now a branch of nusra.
Majed and Syrian:
???? ?? ????

August 11th, 2013, 9:24 pm

 

Syrian said:

I guess the wrong link I put was the the reasons Guffran is still arguing about the fake edict.
I don’t know who is Sandro also he is talking about.
My post in Arabic was very clear that the regime took a 2 years old signed statement and changed it.
Here is the right link
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=516549295092657&id=111632495584341&set=a.112197655527825.19958.111632495584341&__user=10000313141872
The most supporting page for the regime has retracted its earlier claim about the facke edict
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2 hours ago ·
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????? : ???? ????? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ???? ??? ??? ????? ??? ????? ??????? ??? ????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?? ????? .

????? ????? ????? ????????

Salamiah like every other Syrian city being sheled daily was shelled by the regime.

August 11th, 2013, 9:49 pm

 

Syrian said:

Majed
You’re welcome, it is becoming a full time job.someone has to do it.!

August 11th, 2013, 9:52 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Seriously?
” like every other Syrian city being sheled daily was shelled by the regime”
??? ?? ???? ????? ?? ???

August 11th, 2013, 9:59 pm

 

Tara said:

Ghufran

Salamieh is shelled by the regime. An apology is due.

—–

Isn’t Salamieh mostly Ismaelis? Please correct me if I am wrong. Aren’t Ismaelis considered a shiaa sect too. Where are the Malalis? Where is Monsieur Hassan?

August 11th, 2013, 10:14 pm

 

Syrian said:

This one time ,doing a Ghuffran i.e. copying a comment from some face book page
Here is an eye witness that says it was the regime who shelled Salamieh today
Anas M. Ebaji
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???? ?? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? 47 ??? ???? ???????? ???? ??????? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ??????? ???? ???? ?? ????? …????? ??? ????? ?????? 2 ??? ????? ??? ??????? ??????
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Like · 2 · 5 hours ago

August 11th, 2013, 10:17 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Ghufran said
??? ?? ???? ????? ?? ???

That applies to you ghufran

August 11th, 2013, 10:22 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Riyad al-Asaad attacks the FSA and the NC:
??? ???? ?? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ????”????? ????” ???? ?????? ??? ??????? ????????? ?? ????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ??????? ???????? ????????? ????? ????? ????? ??????.
???? “??????”? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ??? ????? “????? ????” ?? ???????? ???????? ” ??? ???????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ??????? ..(..) ??? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ??????? ?????? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ??????? ?????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ???????? ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???????? ??? ????????”.
?????   ” ??? ???? ???? ??????? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ??? ???? ??? ????”.
???? ????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? “????? ????” ?? ?????? ??????? ???? “??????” ?????? ?? ??? ???????? ??????? ????? ??? “????? ????” ?????????? ??? ??? ???? ???????.
????” ?? ???????? ??????? ???? ??? ??????? ??????? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? .. ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ????? ???????”.
????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???????? ????? ??????? ?????????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ???? ?????.
???? ” ????? ?? ??? ???????? ??? ??????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???????? ???????? ?????? ????? ???? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????”.
Tara,
Do you think hizbullah should defend Salamiyyah ?
Shelling civilian areas does not help the rebels, I am not sure what the rebels are trying to do, they are acting like the Talibans .
Pro rebels media policy of blaming every terrorist act on the regime may have worked in the past but it is getting old now, I happen to have two friends who live there, most of us know who bombed that town, some are unable to face the truth.

August 11th, 2013, 10:27 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Keep lying and hope that people may believe you. The SOHR effectively ended the rebels fabrications that the army shelled Salamiyyah ( a pro regime town):
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Those of you who still have an ounce of credibility left should try to tell us why the rebels killed civilians in that town.

August 11th, 2013, 10:43 pm

 

don said:

Abu Ayoub al-Tunsi gone to Paradise

Top Salafist Terrorist Killer Killed by SAA in Lattakia Countryside 08 11 2013

Abu Ayoub al-Tunsi, a Tunisian Salafist sheikh, has joined the radicalized battalion, al-Muhajereen which fight in Syrian, has been shot dead by Syrian Army during battles in Lattakia countryside.

Date of kill : 08 11 2013
Headshot by a SAA sniper unit

Well, the great offensive by the so called fsa terrorist does not look so good at all after such great success killing and kidnapping civilian right now the SAA and NFD and the new militia have killed over 1000 terrorists

you terrorists can call yourself whatever you want now you will meet the militia 2000 troops that have joined the fight against NATO’s international terrorism

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=10c_1376254131

August 11th, 2013, 11:33 pm

 

ghufran said:

#Exclusive from @THE_47th: #Italy Foreign Ministry was informed about death of Father Paolo in #Syria

This time I am praying that the news about father Paolo’s execution are not true and are just one more “fabrication” by me. The man did nothing wrong and does not deserve to die.
Syrians may argue all day about who is at fault in this war but the reputation of Syrians as tolerant people has been ruined, foreigners think that we are a group of savage people who hate Christians and hate each other and that we do not value life.

This is a piece from an interview he gave a year ago:
FP: Many people thought that Mr. Bashar al-Assad, with the help of his wife, a very well-educated person, would be able to be the protagonist of the democratic mutation, translation into full democracy for Syria. In fact, the regime was already ideologically empty. The Ba’ath ideology came to the end of its motivations and values. [It] was a clear failure as a project. So far the Syrian regime was more and more just an association of family interests.
And the liberalization of the country from the previous socialist structure, without democratization, facilitated the mafia trend. And so, in spite [of having] more democracy, we have had less state, less consistency, less respect of the law altogether. So the change didn’t come. And the growing of tension: people asking for rights, people asking for the change. The tension was very high in the last years already. The repression on human rights activists, on politicians asking for freedom, was already very strong. So the Arab Spring has been the occasion for the explosion of the situation and also to show this new protagonist, the youth, the Arab youth, an incredible, marvelous protagonist that is the fruit of the big values rooted in families if the society that has been coming up with this astonishing, great expression of political awareness.

Again, Let us hope that the news about his execution are not true.

August 11th, 2013, 11:34 pm

 

Syrian said:

Talk about credibility.
When the regime most violent militia page took a stand and corrected itself in what should have been so obvious fake edict to anyone with half brain, and still not admitting that you made a mistake,it speaks volumes not about only your credibility but also about an out of control ego that is after it bad mouth men of God just to make a fake point it still not willing to admit it made a mistake

August 11th, 2013, 11:41 pm

 

don said:

Syrian Girl: Fatwa Permitting Rape of Syrian Women

Another Islamic cleric has gone public to announce a fatwa that permits US-backed FSA rebels to rape non-Sunni women in Syria as part of a “sexual jihad” that has seen girls as young as 14 transported into the country to service the needs of anti-Assad militants.

“Salafi Sheikh Yasir al-‘Ajlawni, a Jordanian of origin who lived in Damascus, Syria for 17 years, posted a YouTube video last week where he said he was preparing to issue a “legitimate fatwa” making it legal (in the eyes of Islam) for those Muslims fighting to topple secular president Bashar Assad and install Sharia law to “capture and have sex with” all non-Sunni women, specifically naming Assad’s own sect, the Alawites, as well as the Druze and several others, basically, all non-Sunnis and non-Muslims,” reports Human Events.

August 11th, 2013, 11:55 pm

 

ghufran said:

I can not be nice to anybody who took part in destroying Syria and is calling for “Jihad” and supporting a terrorist group (Nusra), it is the rebel’s behavior not regime propaganda that earned them so many enemies and made it possible for the regime to survive, at the end of the day Syrians will reject extremism in all shapes and forms and live where they feel that their families, especially girls and women, are (relatively) safe.
I would rather see Syria gets divided (at least for now) instead of allowing the animals of Nusra to rule the country of first alphabet. Whether Assad survives this war or not is the least of my concerns, I made that very clear from day one. I do not trust the rebels or anybody who supports them, those rebels stabbed the real revolutionaries in the back and decided to act as slaves to Turkey and the GCC, they filled Syria with violent Bedouins who kill and torture to please Allah (their allah)and I do not consider them Muslims. unlike some of you I do not care about people’s beliefs but I do care about what they do,if you guys love Nusra’s ideology and work this much why do not you go and fight with them or send your kids to help their evil Jihad instead of spreading hatred on this blog ?

August 12th, 2013, 12:38 am

 

DAMASCUSROSE said:

UZAIR8 and SYRIALOVER. Long response to ISW article. Apologies in advance but after I started writing, I couldn’t stop…

I started reading the ISW article hoping for some insight and new information. I have never heard of ISW or Elizabeth O’Gady but it sounded like a thinktank type of an outfit and I’ve always found such articles to be illuminating and often well-informed. The article itself is full of holes and completely inaccurate. As I read it, I kept wondering if it was written by a college freshman? It was that bad. Then I read the conclusion and it started to make sense why they put out such an article. If you disagree, please take a look at the citations, most of them are youtube videos and unverifiable (possibly bogus?) interviews. I can tell you the situation in Damascus is a complete stalemate, no one is making any progress but you may dismiss it as just an opinion. The basis of her thesis is completely wrong, but I thought the readers of this forum deserve a better response than a simple reader opinion. Bear with me as I go through some of her claims.

First her map:

1. #1, she says rebels have Jobar and began drive into government neighborhoods. That’s completely false, there’s a stalemate in Jobar, regime forces were the ones trying to push into Jobar and have been stopped. There is no “drive” into government neighborhoods.

2. #2, and #3, she claims Qaboun and Barzeh are contested areas as they were previously under government control 2012, that’s inaccurate as well. Regime forces has been trying to enter Qaboun and Barzeh for months and been repelled every time.

3. #4, she claims the electrical station is in Abbasyeen garages, the station is in Jobar and it is back in regime hands.

4. #6, she claims Salhiya is contested??? Either she’s confused about Damascus districts or she doesn’t know where Salhiya is! Salhiya is firmly in government hands.

5. #7, she claims Bab Touma is contested, completely false. Bab Touma, a mostly a Christian neighborhood, had few mortars fall but it has no fighting whatsoever.

6. #8, she claims that “rebels have made significant progress in putting pressure on regime forces in the vicinity of Mezze airbase..” I don’t know what that means, what’s significant progress in putting pressure??? Mezzeh remains the lifeline of the regime and operations at the airport have increased many folds as more air traffic from Russia and Iran are diverted to Mezzeh, what kind of pressure is she talking about?

Now, let’s examine her citations:

1. Citation #1, al-Qaboun, from the heart of the battle at the doors of eastern Damascus,” youtube video. The citation was made about how the rebels are advancing, while the video talks about the onslaught that Qbaoun is under every day. Completely the opposite of what she was trying to convey, I was now wondering if she understands Arabic (her resume says she studied Arabic).

2. Citation #2 has this sentence to support it: “After major clashes between government and rebel forces, the opposition took control of the Abbassiyeen garages, an important government-controlled facility.” Abbasyeen garages are just that, garages and the fighting is happening around the garages because they’re at the edge of Jobar and straddle major highways, the rebels do not control them (nor does the regime, see my earlier statement about the stalemate). The youtube video shows rebels filming from inside the electrical facility, that was taken back few days later. I don’t know how she can deduce that Abbasyeen garages are under control of opposition from a video about an electrical company?

3. I’m copying and pasting this entire paragraph so I apologize for the length, but please read it carefully:

“On August 7, government forces ambushed an opposition convoy in Adra, a main supply route between Damascus and the eastern Ghouta neighborhood, killing over 60 rebel fighters. Although the government reported that the Jabhat al-Nusra led opposition fighters were on their way to attack a key checkpoint in Damascus, both activists and fighters have denied the claim, arguing that the convoy was carrying humanitarian aid to besieged eastern Ghouta.[12] The government’s targeting of humanitarian aid channels has had near catastrophic consequences in areas that rely heavily on aid as food and medical supplies are increasingly rare in certain districts of the capital. Such actions represent similar government strategies employed in northern Syria, where the government has targeted civilians and activists in response to major rebel victories. Regime retaliation against civilians has been an effective part of the government’s attempts to undermine the opposition’s support base. However, in Damascus, such strategies seem to have an inverse effect so far, and they have caused tension and infighting between government troops forced to carry out such measures.[13]”

She basically claims that the 60 rebels ambushed in Adra were carrying humanitarian aid to besieged Eastern Ghouta and then she makes the connection to how the government blocks humanitarian aid and how this is having adverse effect on government troops??? There are many examples of government forces blocking aid and she decided to choose the ambush killings of the rebels as an example of blocking humanitarian aid? This is very laughable assertion, she can’t possibly expect readers to take her seriously!

4. She writes “In a video posted online, opposition forces from Liwa Islam and the First Brigades destroy a column of tanks along the road to the hospital in Barzeh.[15]” Very impressive at face value, except the video’s title is the destruction of a single tank and it’s not even clear as it’s shot at night and no one can tell what’s going on. Now how can she expect to get away with such a statement “destroy a column of tanks” unless she believes the people this article is targeted at will not bother checking the links and jump to the conclusion, after all, she knows Arabic, right?

5. In the next statement, she writes: “In another video, a unit associated with Ansar al-Islam is seen effectively using an SA-16 in the Ghouta region.[16]”. Here again, her citation #16 is the video from the electrical company not the use of the SA-16. By now, I’m thinking she really believes her readers are just stupid.

6. Again, the following statement goes: “Advanced weapons also helped rebel forces take control of the fifth bridge along the road to Damascus International Airport, and were instrumental in rebel operations against the Abu Zidan checkpoint along the International Damascus Road in Harasta.[17]” Here I was expecting her citation to show one of the many firefights with these advanced weapons (and there are many videos available) but she chose to show a video of 4 rebels in a pickup truck, that’s it. A pickup truck next to the highway!!!

7. She makes several incoherent statements and cites the Liwa Al Islam seizing Surface to Air missiles and then provides inaccurate and unverifiable citations (#18-#22). This is when I thought, a freshman in college would have received a failing grade if they were to rely on such citations to make their assertions. She basically claims that rebels now control the airspace over Damascus because they have seized SA missiles, but she must have forgotten that there are still people that still live in Damascus. If you live in Damascus, you’d know that air raids have significantly intensified in the last few weeks.

8. She makes several statements that sound more like an opinion , she cites #23 “an interview via skype” Wow! Now I’m wondering if she even had someone above her at ISW review this article before it was allowed to be published? This is typically what occurs in reputable organizations, now I’m wondering if ISW is a legitimate outfit…

9. She makes a statement about infighting among government officials, her citation #25 is “Interview with regime source on July 28, 2013.” That’s it!!!

Finally her conclusions are completely baseless though she makes a couple of astute observations about the plight of refugees and the problems encountered in Jordan mainly. She does make wild leaps between some of her false assertions and what she believes should be done in Syria. I’m amazed ISW allowed this essay to be published but then I thought, maybe it was intentional. It is obviously motivated to influence some U.S. policy makers, either in the government or the U.S. Congress, but who and why, and would they buy it? Then I started reading about the makeup of ISW and things have started to make sense. Anyway, there are several more reliable information outlets, this is obviously an uninformed (or disingenuous) writer, I wouldn’t put much into the article.

I repeat, the situation is Damascus is a complete stalemate, no side is able to make any advances and the fighting is getting more ferocious with every passing day. The suggestion in the article that just a little is needed to tip the balance in favor of the rebels is completely false. Unless there’s a revolt in the Army leadership against Assad or an outside intervention (with boots on the ground) to force a political solution, the war will continue for years and even decades. There’s no victory for either side no matter how much more weapons they get, the situation is so much more complicated now.

August 12th, 2013, 1:23 am

 

don said:

New York Times Fuels Anti-Iranian Sentiment

Times editors, columnists and contributors support the worst of US policies. They regurgitate official lies.

They abhor truth and full disclosure. They substitute managed news misinformation. They do so consistently.

They advocate business as usual. They betray their readers in the process. They do it unapologetically.

They march in lockstep with imperial lawlessness. They call aggressive wars liberating ones.They’re in bed with corporate America.

So is Iran bashing. Times editors endorse decades of ruthless US policies. They want Iranian sovereignty destroyed.

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/08/11/new-york-times-fuels-anti-iranian-sentim

August 12th, 2013, 1:49 am

 

apple_mini said:

Ghufran, spreading hatred is what those terrorist sympathizers and supporters do. If a person has decent compassion for human lives, that person will definitely reject armed terrorists massacring defenseless villagers or recruiting child soldiers who will be instructed to behead a human being.

Those people are filled with undeniable hatred or vendettas. The most troubling problem with those people is that they are cowards even by the terrorist book. Not only they are feared of their lives, but also they do not even want to give up their favorite drinks, their comfortable lives in a country which is tolerable to any religions and sects.

It has been clear now they are willing to see Syria gets burnt down and Syrians get slaughtered, especially Syrians who are considered to be second class by them.

Those people might be called Syrian expats, but they are Not Syrian. We reject them for their role of destructing Syria.

August 12th, 2013, 1:56 am

 

don said:

Syrian rebels destroy Orthodox church in Al-Thawrah

The Antiochian Orthodox church of Saints Sergius and Bacchus was a landmark of al-Thawrah (also known as al-Tabqah).

According to a story by the Assyrian International News Agency (AINA), it was an impressive, modern structure with a large yard, surrounded by a high wall and well-situated on a main street near the corniche — a well landscaped area hugging the southern bank of Lake Assad which was popular with locals going on an evening stroll.

Its elegant dome, surmounted by a cross, could be seen from all parts of the Third Quarter (also known as Hayy al-Ishtirakiyah), where it was located.

Spiritually, AINA said, this church was under the jurisdiction of the Archdiocese of Aleppo, the metropolitan of which, Boulos al-Yazigi, was kidnapped (and allegedly murdered) on April 22 of this year, along with the Syriac Orthodox metropolitan of the same city, Mor Gregorios Youhanna Ibrahim.

AINA said Christian eyewitnesses who fled al-Thawrah, now displaced in other parts of Syria, as well as in Lebanon and Turkey, tell of religious discrimination by the rebels, as well as forced confiscation of Christian possessions and properties, with many items being sold on the black market in order to purchase weapons and ammunition. Even the churches weren’t spared.

“The ‘Free Syrian Army’ demolished the (Sts. Sergius and Bacchus) church,” one refugee said sadly. “They tore up the sanctuary curtains, Bibles and other holy books, and broke all the crosses, chairs and icons of Jesus and the saints. They stole ele ctrical appliances like fans, chandeliers and lights. They took whatever was in the church, and sold it all. There is nothing there now.”

However, AINA said, there is no hope, for the Christians to return and rebuild even if the conflict subsides.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/syrian.rebels.destroy.orthodox.church.in.al.thawrah/33567.htm

August 12th, 2013, 2:16 am

 

Alan said:

33. SF94123 said:
Syrians Sunnis are to blame for the death and distraction…….

Are you under the influence of Bernard Lewis Levy?

August 12th, 2013, 3:00 am

 

Alan said:

Turkey has called on its citizens to leave Lebanon following abduction of two Turkish Airlines pilots by armed men in Beirut.
Separately, it has decided to remove its troops from the UNIFIL peacekeeping forces operating in southern Lebanon, according to Lebanese media.

An influx of armed Israeli tourists taking up the slack! 🙂

August 12th, 2013, 3:20 am

 

Alan said:

Life goes on in Syria! Against the evil itself reviled on earth under the name of USA
https://twitter.com/confusion8888/status/366615267280838656/photo/1

Do they look like syrians to you Mr Obama?
https://twitter.com/confusion8888/status/364861237923831808/photo/1

Revealed: What the West has given Syria’s rebels
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/revealed-what-the-west-has-given-syrias-rebels-8756447.html

August 12th, 2013, 6:14 am

 

Uzair8 said:

What’s this about?

I suppose it’s possible for Assad agents disguised as Islamists/rebels to have been responsible or even to have infiltrated Jihadist groups.

I hope the news isn’t true as the father was a friend of the revolution. A friend of truth and justice. I’m upset, sickened and write with a heavy heart.

Posted on Yalla Souriya :<a href="http://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/pro-assad-group-kills-rev-paolo-dalloglio-in/">about 7 hours ago:

Pro-Assad group kills Rev. Paolo Dall’Oglio in North east Syria, Atassi says

Senior Official in the Free Syrian Army have confirmed the execution of Rev. Paolo Dall’Oglio, Jesuit Priest in Ar Raqqa, North east Syria.

Lma al-Attasi, Secretary General of the Syrian national Front affirmed to Zaman Alwasl that the prominent Italian Jesuit, Dall’Oglio, who has been kidnapped by an Islamist group on July 29, was killed in Ar Raqqa, North east Syria.

Attasi has accused the Assad Intelligence by penetrating the ranks of the Islamic groups and contributing in the murder. ”The Assad regime should carry the full responsibility.” Some western governments of hiding the news of Dall’Oglio’s killing, she added.

Dall’Oglio was an outspoken supporter of the uprising against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

[…]

Zaman Alwasl-Exclusive

August 12th, 2013, 7:27 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Posted on Yalla Souriya about 7 hours ago. Also happens to be the last update on YS:

‘#Syria, I am deeply sorry to inform you that I got from a reliable source father Paulo has been executed.. the mercy of Allah on his soul

?????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ?? ????? ???? ????? .. ???? ???? ??? ???? @lamaatassi’

August 12th, 2013, 7:30 am

 

omen said:

this from an activist on the ground in raqqa.

Those who promote the death of FatherPaolo have no morality neither responsibility and are seeking attention only.

even absent this activist refutation, story comes from an outfit nobody has ever heard of, citing a rebel front that doesn’t exist (i don’t think.)

August 12th, 2013, 8:05 am

 

omen said:

no, uzair, that’s being contested.

this from an activist on the ground in raqqa.

Those who promote the death of FatherPaolo have no morality neither responsibility and are seeking attention only.

even absent this activist’s refutation, story comes from an outfit nobody has ever heard of, citing a rebel front that doesn’t exist (i don’t think.)

need confirmation either way.

August 12th, 2013, 8:14 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Damascus Rose

Thanks for the response. I’ve tried to contact Elizabeth O’Bagy through ISW (as I couldn’t find her email address). I’ve sent her the link to your comment.

Moving on.

A couple of Elizabeth tweets:

Elizabeth O’Bagy @lizobagy 31 Jul
Why Dempsey’s letter wasnt entirely accurate:there are scale-able options with limited duration/costs http://goo.gl/BCftaz

Required Sorties and Weapons to Degrade Syrian Air Force
Jul 31, 2013 – Christopher Harmer

[…]

******************

Elizabeth O’Bagy @lizobagy 29 Jul
@joaska_EA I’m still contributing to ISW. In fact, I’m working on a big report on Damascus and preparing for a long research trip.

[I hope the regime allows her in or the rebels provide her the required protection to carry out her work. Can’t wait for the report – unless it was the ISW piece on Damascus shared on here the last couple of days (?).]

August 12th, 2013, 9:09 am

 

omen said:

253. majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir is back to call the rebels rodent, I guess he is ratvenir.

August 12th, 2013, 9:16 am

 

Hameed said:

Real facts of execution and torture in Syria http://youtu.be/-4dsISP8yPg

August 12th, 2013, 9:20 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Omen

You’re right we should wait for confirmation. I hope it turns out false and the father is safe and well.

No revolutionary would ever even consider harming the father. It can only be either the regime (openly or disguised as rebels) or the Al-Qaedists.

If the news is true and it turns out to be the al-Qaedists then it only shows their ignorance of and/or indifference to the revolution. They have nothing to do with the revolution and the syrian people’s cause. Father Paolo had more concern for the revolution than they could ever have. The idiots can go to hell. They’re harming innocents and giving the revolution a bad name. We wouldn’t care about any usefulness to the fight against Assad they may provide.

August 12th, 2013, 9:23 am

 

revenire said:

What those chortling/trolling SC over the ISW report failed to notice, or didn’t care, is that that Institute for the Study of War is a neocon think tank. It is sloppy research to post its “study” without knowing who, and what, ISW is. I think Rose shot plenty of holes in details of O’Bagy’s scribbling (why email O’Bagy? she gets paid to do this and won’t budge). Maybe O’Bagy can sell this to those who *want* to believe it and in right wing circles in the US but that’s about it.

Just Google ISW and read about them. This isn’t secret information. ISW is open about their politics.

Institute for the Study of War
Founded in 2007, the Institute for the Study of War is a Washington, D.C.-based think tank that has supported long-term U.S. military intervention abroad, particularly in Iraq and Afghanistan. Led by Kimberly Kagan, the group has increasingly attracted the support of military contractors with active stakes in the wars the group supports prolonging.

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/institute_for_the_study_of_war

August 12th, 2013, 9:33 am

 

revenire said:

Uzair this priest is no hero. He’s been abducted by the “revolution generation” and more than likely they’ve cut his head off because he’s a nominal Christian.

August 12th, 2013, 9:36 am

 

zoo said:

What game are the Saudis playing in Syria with their proteges, the SNC and the FSA?
Selim Idriss’s visit to Latakia is clearly part of a campaign to boost the FSA image by attributing the offensive in Latakia to the FSA and minimizing Al Nusra’s role.
As there is a new offensive in the East, has the Saudis offered the East of Syria to the Islamists in exchange for their help in invading the West Alawite stronghold, or is it a bargaining chip the Saudis are preparing to press the USA to remove Bashar al Assad by force ahead of the conference?

Russia and the US are determined to have the conference in September. The West and the USA are exerting huge pressure on the opposition( SNC and FSA) to accept to participate without pre-conditions.
They have been asked to unite politically, claim military gains and get rid of the Al Nusra fighters to be able to be in strong posstion during negotiation. They have one month to do that.

In response the opposition has promised they will form a “transitional ‘ government and “National army”.
They have escalated the offensive as well as the propaganda to show how ‘strong’ the military rebels have become and that they are a force to reckon with. The problem is that they made these ‘victories’ thanks to Al Nusra fighters.

Therefore their close association with Al Qaeda is under scrutinity. It is of public domain that the latest incursions in Latakia are the work of the Al Nusra fighters under the cover of the FSA.
The appearance of Selim Idriss in Latakia is part of the propaganda to fool the public opinion. Al Nusra seems to have allowed that, with probably an agreement with the FSA that the Al Nusra and the Islamists will be given exclusive control of the area of Raqqa and the border with Iraq.

Will the West and Ira agrees that the East, close to Iraq become a Islamists-al Qaeda area? I doubt it. This is why Saudi Arabia wants to use it as pressure on the West to get rid of Bashar al Assad ahead of the conference or at least use it as a bargaining chips to be in a strong position during the Geneva conference where they will actively support the SNC.
Time is short so fights will intensify and more Syrians will die. Does any of the USA, the EU, Turkey or Saudi Arabia care anymore?

August 12th, 2013, 9:44 am

 

apple_mini said:

The execution of Father Paolo is so embarrassing and shameful. So the first thing the opposition did was to find a scapegoat and here it is: the regime.

But their fabrication of lie is so weak that even the rebels would think it is laughable.

If the regime had the capacity to send agents to infiltrate the Islamists ranks, would the regime have planned more important figure to assassin other than Father Paolo who had no value for the regime.

The death of Father Paolo is truly a symbol of the death of the “revolution”. Father Paolo had been a beacon for the opposition because he was a Christian and he was harsh on the regime. The irony is for the same reason that Father Paolo being a Christian got him killed by the Islamists.

And the opposition is still trying to lie to the world that they are fighting for democracy and rights to against tyranny and oppression.

Just save it.

August 12th, 2013, 9:46 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

“Zionist” Researchers with Arabic Names NewZ

Reverse,

Thanks for the ISW link. The researchers there seem to have a good bit of valuable experience. Many of them arabic speakers.
Certainly a more professional outfit than the unresearched opinions of “Global Research”:

http://www.understandingwar.org/press-media/staff-bios/ahmed-ali

http://www.understandingwar.org/press-media/staff-bios/isabel-nassief

http://www.understandingwar.org/press-media/staff-bios/elizabeth-obagy

http://www.understandingwar.org/press-media/staff-bios/valerie-szybala

http://www.understandingwar.org/press-media/staff-bios/joseph-holliday

http://www.understandingwar.org/publications

August 12th, 2013, 9:55 am

 
 

Alan said:

Kou Kou!
Saudi Arabian Prince Defected – Saudi torturing and Major Human Rights Violations – Killing Dissidents – U.S. Ignoring

A Saudi Prince has defected. He exposed the Human Rights Violations, Torturing and Killing the Saudi Government is doing against the people of there, who don’t agree with the government.

He says the U.S. is ignoring the abuses.

Isn’t this the exact reason why the U.S. is saying Syria has to be taken over? For human rights abuses? The U.S. ignores Saudi Arabia abuses….. Oh… right – it is due to Saudi Arabia that the dollar is still the Petrol dollar… I guess they can kill their people all they want and it will never be mentioned. Obama will continue to bow down to the Saudi King and Bush will continue to do business and allow the Bin Laden’s to fly when no one else can (after 9/11).

We are at a point and time that Truth is being revealed and can no longer be hidden.

Here is the Saudi Prince on Russia Today about everything going on in Saudi Arabia.
http://youtu.be/g-DsLo3Dwcw?t=9s

August 12th, 2013, 11:19 am

 

Tara said:

One can’t help having a very heavy heart today with the news about father Paolo. Good people die, evil people live forever. It is a sad sad day.

August 12th, 2013, 11:19 am

 

Alan said:

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August 12th, 2013, 11:31 am

 

syrian said:

Of course the regime is responsible for what ever happens to Father Paolo, because it the regime who kicked him out of his dear monastery to begin with just because he spoke the truth about them.

August 12th, 2013, 11:38 am

 

zoo said:

113. syrian

By expelling Paolo Della’ Oglio, the Syrian government actually protected him. But the Jesuit priest who seems to believe he can ‘unite’ the opposed wings of Islam in Syria, came back illegally at his own risk and in an area where the Syrian government could not protect him anymore.
His fate is exclusively in the hand of the rebels who rule Al Raqqa and their political supporters, Turkey, Qatar and KSA.
They’ll bear the full responsibility of his execution.

August 12th, 2013, 11:58 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

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August 12th, 2013, 12:04 pm

 

zoo said:

Lavrov, Ibrahimi send a clear message to the opposition: There will be no pre-conditions to Geneva II

Lavrov, Brahimi agree peace in Syria achievable only through dialogue
Aug 12,2013

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=159616

MOSCOW, Aug. 12 (Xinhua) — The only way to end the ongoing violence in Syria lies in dialogue, the Russian Foreign Ministry said on Monday.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and the UN-Arab League joint envoy to Syria Lakhdar Brahimi agreed in a phone conservation that “only an equal dialogue without any preconditions between Syrian sides would stop violence and launch a substantive discussion about the country’s future.”

On Friday, during a “2+2” meeting in Washington, the U.S. and Russian foreign and defense ministers agreed to host a peace conference on Syria in Geneva as soon as possible.

They also agreed on follow-up discussions over ways to help reduce the growing humanitarian crisis ensuing from Syria’s conflict.

Last week, in the wake of renewed deadly terror attacks in Syria, Moscow accused the rebels of “taking out on vulnerable civilians” for their inferior military position.

According to local experts, the main obstacle for the conference to be convened soon is the constantly shifting military balance in the conflict-torn country.

“Geneva conference is a sort of labor sharing between Moscow and Washington in their joint efforts to coerce the sides in the Syrian conflict to start the peace talks, which can only be achieved by restoring military balance” Alexander Shumilin, an expert with the Russian Academy of Science, said at a recent round table discussion in Russia.

“Otherwise, each side will press forward anticipating military defeat of the other.”

Russia and the United States may take a pause in their relations but not in the case of Syria because people die there in thousands, director of the Public Policy Research Center Vladimir Yevseev said.

Last Wednesday, Lavrov said the priority of the proposed conference on Syria must be re-targeting military efforts toward fighting terrorists.

August 12th, 2013, 12:09 pm

 

zoo said:

Turkey scrambles to deny accusation of complicity in the abduction of the two patriarchs. It will also be pointed at for the murder of Paolo Della’ Oglio.
It appears clearly that arrogant Turkey has zero control on the rebels they allow to cross through their countries and that they support militarily

Turkish Foreign Ministry denies Syrian bishops kidnapped in Aleppo are held in Turkey
http://www.aa.com.tr/en/rss/214500–turkish-foreign-ministry-denies-syrian-bishops-kidnapped-in-aleppo-are-held-in-turkey

12 August 2013

Turkish Foreign Ministry denied Monday allegations that two Christian Orthodox bishops, who were kidnapped last April in Syria, are held in Turkey.

“The allegations are bare of truth. It is of great importance to remind once again that Turkey bristles with indignation the abduction of 2 clerics, and wishes for their safe return in the shortest possible time. We are ready to do our best to secure their release,” the ministry said.

The bishops, Yohanna Ibrahim and Boulos Yazigi, were abducted gunmen in the northern city of Aleppo on 22 April. Their whose whereabouts are still unknown.

They were kidnapped as they were on their way back to Aleppo from Turkey. Their driver was shot and killed in the attack.

August 12th, 2013, 12:15 pm

 

Alan said:

????? ????!???? ????!
The Kurdish minority in Syria has reportedly been the target of heavy attacks by radicalists, for over three weeks now, with stories of killings and kidnappings increasing almost daily. 450 civilians were allegedly slaughtered in one incident alone. Although that information is hard to verify due to the chaos and violence engulfing the region. Kurdish journalist Barzan Iso has helped us put together a timeline of what’s been happening.
http://youtu.be/e6y-x_YTZyM?t=3m45s

August 12th, 2013, 12:17 pm

 

zoo said:

When will the USA face the reality instead of repeating these wishful thinking? .

“but jihadi supremacy in the event of an opposition victory is not inevitable. The US and its allies should conduct a robust policy, make a more significant investment in the secular opposition, and articulate clear goals.”

Defusing the Syrian Time Bomb

By Itamar Rabinovich, a former ambassador of Israel to the USA
http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/syria-and-the-threat-to-us-national-security-by-itamar-rabinovich

One school regards Syria primarily as a theater of battle against Al Qaeda and other extremists. Its adherents, preoccupied with the prospect of a jihadi takeover in Syria, argue (sometimes implicitly and sometimes explicitly) that the US and its allies must not support or intervene on the side of the rebels and, in fact, should view Bashar al-Assad’s regime as the lesser evil.

Those who fear a jihadi takeover cite recent events in Sinai. Just a few days ago, Israel closed its airport in Eilat after receiving a warning that jihadis in Sinai planned to attack it with rockets. This, it is argued, is only a dress rehearsal for what can be expected in a post-Assad Syria.

The other school of thought does not take this scenario lightly. Nonetheless, it argues that a victory in Syria by a coalition of Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, and Assad’s regime would pose an even greater danger. Moreover, in the event of the Assad regime’s fall, there would be plenty of ways to deal with the jihadi groups in Syria.

But the most appropriate response to Morell’s statement is that the US does not necessarily have to choose between two sharply defined options. Yes, Syria’s secular opposition is weak and divided, while the jihadis are more dynamic; but jihadi supremacy in the event of an opposition victory is not inevitable. The US and its allies should conduct a robust policy, make a more significant investment in the secular opposition, and articulate clear goals.

Read more at http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/syria-and-the-threat-to-us-national-security-by-itamar-rabinovich#8BSixWZOuoyXPU3O.99

August 12th, 2013, 12:24 pm

 

zoo said:

Letta, reports of Father Dall’Oglio’s death unconfirmed

(AGI) Rome, Aug 12 – Prime Minister Enrico Letta has told the press that reports on an Arab website about Father Dall’Oglio’s death in Syria remain unconfirmed. “We are waiting anxiously,” said Letta, “but there is no news and we are seeking information and trying to make contact.” . .

August 12th, 2013, 12:27 pm

 

zoo said:

Zarqawism Lives: Iraq’s al Qaeda Nightmare Is Back
by Bruce Riedel Aug 12, 2013 4:45 AM EDT

The misguided war in Iraq may have finished for Americans, but its violent backlash is far from over. Bruce Riedel on how decapitation just can’t kill al Qaeda

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/12/zarqawism-lives-iraq-s-al-qaeda-nightmare-is-back.html

A rising wave of extreme anti-Shia sectarian violence is sweeping Iraq. Hundreds have died in terror attacks this summer. The mass slaughter of Shia at the hands of al Qaeda threatens to drag the country back to civil war. Worse, al Qaeda in Iraq has now exported its violence to Syria, and Lebanon is not far behind. Not since the Saudi and Wahhabi sack of Najaf and Kerbala in 1806 has sectarian violence in the Middle East been this extreme.

August 12th, 2013, 12:40 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Revenire

I know what your saying about ISW and the neocon thing, however a lot of (or some of) what O’Bagy wrote seemed to correspond with what we (or I) was reading on revolutionary update blogs (like Yalla Souriya). It felt to me she was also a follower of such blogs and was basing her analysis on such reports. The clashes, locations and outcomes seemed to correspond.

So it’s not as if she was making up anything out of thin air in an attempt to push a neocon agenda. Yes you could argue about the reliability of those blogs (from a regimist point of view).

Whatever you may think, people like Professor Landis will not dismiss such (ISW) articles out of hand. They’d give them serious and careful/cautious consideration.

The last ISW article I shared some weeks ago (on Homs/Aleppo) I hoped would make the next News round up. If I’m correct it was some time before the next round up and by then the article may have been forgotten or dropped down the pecking order so not included.

August 12th, 2013, 12:42 pm

 

ziad said:

Israeli Democracy: A Convenient Illusion

America’s the same. So is Israel. They’re pariah states. They’re rogue states. They abhor fundamental freedoms. They prioritize war and instability. They deplore peaceful conflict resolution.

Israel’s an ethnocracy. It’s polar opposite democracy. Israeli leaders refer to “Jewish democracy.” It’s Orwellian. Structural inequalities explain.

Israeli Arabs are citizens. They compromise 20% of the population. They can vote. They can sit in parliament. They’re little more than potted plants.

Jews alone have power. Arabs have no say. The Law of Return affords it to solely to Jews. Arabs are unwanted. They’re persecuted. Institutionalized racism denies them equal rights.

Citizenship and Entry in Israel legislation prohibits Israeli Arab spouses in Palestine or abroad from entering Israel. Residency rights are forbidden. Families are divided. They’re denied fundamental rights.

Israel builds walls, not peace. Fortress Israel is policy. It assures permanent conflict. It justifies occupation harshness. It assures continued repression.

It mocks resolving the longstanding Israeli/Palestinian conflict equitably. It’s a distant dream.

Throughout its history, Israel spurned peace. It’s done it repeatedly. In 1949, it rejected Arab states’ territorial concessions. They were offered in return for letting 100,000 displaced Palestinians come home.

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/08/12/israeli-democracy-a-convenient-illusion#more26000

August 12th, 2013, 12:42 pm

 

revenire said:

“By expelling Paolo Della’ Oglio, the Syrian government actually protected him.”

This is a wise observation. I agree 100%.

If this priest had listened to the government and kept his nose out of the den of snakes he’d be alive today.

August 12th, 2013, 1:02 pm

 
 

revenire said:

Uzair yes, I believe I understand but how much of this ISW thing is influenced by what you want to believe rather than facts? O’Bagy’s sources are not so good are they? YouTube videos showing not much and then saying they were proof of this or that? I think you realize that is not proof of anything. I know the ISW has contacts in US intelligence agencies and in government and has a lot of information I don’t but even a layman like me can shoot holes in their report. Damascusrose did a good job of doing just that. In the end, it doesn’t matter. We are on opposite sides and we will not tend to believe anything the other says without corroborating proof and a neocon report doesn’t prove a thing.

Frankly, I don’t put a lot into what Prof. Landis, or his sidekick Dr. Barber, write. They’re both biased. Mr. Landis wrote about Assad living on a Russian ship. He claims this is all sectarian. In 2006 he said there was a US conspiracy against Syria. He was right then. I don’t know what happened to him now. Dr. Barber was talking about if he lived in Syria he’d do this, and do that, because Syria was a dictatorial regime, and he doesn’t sit well with dictatorships, but last time I checked the esteemed Barber lives in the USA and that means he lives under a dictatorial regime. My free advice to out gracious hosts is to clean up their own backyard and leave Syria to Syrians.

Thanks.

August 12th, 2013, 1:11 pm

 

zoo said:

Idriss touring “Latakia” in tee-shirt, baseball cap and sun glasses: A charismatic military leader at his best.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/images/news/201308/n_52398_4.jpg

August 12th, 2013, 1:11 pm

 

revenire said:

The Latakia weddings look very joyous indeed. They don’t look too concerned about the Nusra cannibal-terrorists tossing grenades instead of rice. 🙂

I wish the newlyweds happy and healthy lives.

August 12th, 2013, 1:14 pm

 

revenire said:

Does anyone have the new interview with the disgraced Riad al-Asaad handy? I understand he has said some horrible, if truthful, this about Idriss and the “FSA” mercenaries.

August 12th, 2013, 1:16 pm

 

Tara said:

Marrying today. Slaughtering children tomorrow.

August 12th, 2013, 1:24 pm

 

zoo said:

#126 Revenire

Saudi Arabia is using its money to push its propaganda in the news as part of its role of supporting the Syrian opposition after Qatar withdrew. As KSA does not have an international outlet like al Jazeera, they are feeding the US media with vague and fabricated news.
The aim is to restore the image of the opposition, i.e present the FSA as “clean” and “successful”, the SNC as “united” and “inclusive” and the Syrian Government as civilian murderers.
While the North is under the control of Kurds and Turks sympathizers and hammered by the SAA, Saudi Arabia is now pushing its Islamists allies to move further toward the Syria-Iraq borders. By doing so, they could then threaten Iraq and the USA to allow the creation an area exclusively under the control of Al Qaeda unless the USA acts to precipitate the fall of Bashar al Assad ahead of the Geneva conference.

The Saudis know that the USA and Russia will ultimately make the Geneva conference happen in September, it is for them a matter of credibility. Therefore the Saudis want to prepare as many bargaining cards as they can for their proteges, the SNC and the FSA to have any significance during negotiations.

Propaganda, counter-propaganda, attacks, counter-attacks etc.. will increase until September.

August 12th, 2013, 1:31 pm

 

zoo said:

Happy post-revolution in Tunisia continues: now the Army bombs Sunni Islamist militants

Tunisian armed forces launch air strikes on Islamist militants

Tunisian forces launched air strikes against Islamist militants in the Mount Chaambi area near the Algerian border on Monday, an army source said.

The source also said several militants had been killed and four were arrested in the same region on Sunday. He gave no death toll.

August 12th, 2013, 1:36 pm

 

zoo said:

Pathetic Selim Idriss tries to boast the “victory” in Latakia as his FSA militia’s success. Who is he fooling?.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-sees-new-syrian-influx-with-3000-arrivals.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52398&NewsCatID=352

In the video, Idriss said he was in Latakia to “look into the reality of the important successes and victories that our revolutionary brothers have achieved on the coastal front.”

“We are here today to reassure everybody that the … [FSA] General Command is coordinating completely and continuously with the leaders of the coastal front,” said Idriss. “We will continue to work intensively on the coastal front.”

Underfunded and fragmented, Idriss’ men have been overshadowed by hard-line groups, and some more moderate rebel leaders have been killed in power struggles with al-Qaeda affiliates that include foreign fighters.

August 12th, 2013, 1:44 pm

 

Alan said:

115.
Are you going to bring joy to God by attacking the graves?

August 12th, 2013, 2:31 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

126. Revenire said:

‘…but how much of this ISW thing is influenced by what you want to believe rather than facts?’

Yes there is a bit of that. While pushing a narrative sometimes one ends up using (even borderline) useful articles (which otherwise one would be reluctant to do so) to support ones case. Both sides do that. Not saying the ISW piece was such a case or reached any such significant level.

Frankly, I don’t put a lot into what Prof. Landis, or his sidekick Dr. Barber, write.

It doesn’t matter what you think. Regimist spammers have long tried to influence both Prof. Landis and the next SC main post by dumping favourable articles on here. Now both sides are trying to do this.

A lot of people visit this blog and look out for what Prof Landis has to say on SC or elsewhere. Certainly media folk included. If Prof Landis/Matthew Barber or the news round ups can be influenced then by extention there is possibility to influence the media.

Before and during Ramadan I was trying to describe the growing rebel momentum and hoping it gains traction. I was pleased to see the main post the other day, I’m sure entirely independantly, make the observation (rebel momentum):

Syria Consolidates into Three Cantons as the Opposition Pushes Back, Taking Mengh Airbase and other Strategic Points
Posted by Joshua on Tuesday, August 6th, 2013

The Syrian Arab Army is on the retreat in the North, Aleppo, Idlib and now some high points East of Latakia as well. The Free Syrian Army is making progress in Damascus countryside as well. These important advances seem to have reversed the momentum that the Syrian regime captured following its successful campaign at Qusair. Many have begun to speculate that roles have been reversed and that the Syrian Arab Army is now in retreat in contrast to few months ago.

Up until then the media was just lazily talking about Assad having the momentum and were repeating Assad’s confident claims of victory. Hopefully now the media will also change it’s tune and talk about the the diminishing regime momentum and the growing opposition momentum.

So it doesn’t matter whether you don’t give importance to what Prof Landis has to say or highlights on his blog (eg ISW article). The blog is very influential.

August 12th, 2013, 3:16 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

‘Follow the Islamic way to save the world,’ Prince Charles urges environmentalists

10 June 2010

Prince Charles yesterday urged the world to follow Islamic ‘spiritual principles’ in order to protect the environment.

In an hour-long speech, the heir to the throne argued that man’s destruction of the world was contrary to the scriptures of all religions – but particularly those of Islam.

He said the current ‘division’ between man and nature had been caused not just by industrialisation, but also by our attitude to the environment – which goes against the grain of ‘sacred traditions’.

[…]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285332/Follow-Islamic-way-save-world-Charles-urges-environmentalists.html

August 12th, 2013, 3:25 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Time for a break and to become a silent reader again.

In the meantime keep up the good work revolutionaries.

PS If Elizabeth O’Bagy (ISW) responds to my message I’ll share her response on here (with her permission). Better still I hope she responds on SC in person. Actually I should have invited her over. Nevermind.

Salam

August 12th, 2013, 3:39 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

If Elizabeth O’Bagy (ISW) responds to my message I’ll share her response on here (with her permission).

USAIR8,

Yes, please also ask her if she is a supporter of President Bashar Assad of Syria.

And now, a serious example of Zionist Apartheid…

http://www.israellycool.com/2013/08/11/only-in-israel-10/

August 12th, 2013, 3:44 pm

 

revenire said:

“The blog is very influential.”

With who?

I don’t know how anyone could say it is influential. It is a collection of stories and editorial comment.

Has it influenced the Syrian government to change policy? The US government? Russia? Iran? The UK? France? Writing that has influence changes minds and policies. I see no policies changed because of what is posted at SC. I think Dr. Landis could have effected change but he would have had to go back to his original 2006 TIME magazine view (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1571751,00.html) that Syria is the victim of a conspiracy. I think it is too late for that and that by posting that Assad was living on a Russian ship, saying everything about this war is sectarian and retailing the shameful nonsense of a proposed Alawite rump state on the coast, calling for the US to supply the rebels with anti-aircraft missiles and calling for supra-national (know what that means Uzair) control of Syria Landis has utterly discredited himself.

I seriously doubt that by flooding the comment section with posts it influences what is posted on the main section. The owners have bias toward the war and post accordingly. We all have bias. No one here is neutral.

As far as the media saying Assad is winning my feeling is for years now the Western governments have said it was “five minutes for midnight” for Assad’s government. They had to start posting a more realistic view of it considering the Syrian government is strong and has had very, very few defections. The media, driven by Western governments, was wrong. I think what you refer to just reflects that. They fall back into error with the so-called attack to liberate the coast. I think that was just a propaganda run at it. Send in a few hundred Nusra thugs to murder civilians and claim there is a new front etc. It wasn’t really a new front at all.

August 12th, 2013, 3:45 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

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August 12th, 2013, 4:25 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

#90 Damascus Rose

Just one thing. Something occurred to me.

In length you dismissed the idea of rebels advancing in Damascus (countryside) and you argued against O’Bagy’s claims regarding several districts. You insisted there was a stalemate.

It’s not just O’Bagy or the opposition blogs ‘reporting’ such rebel advances. The section from the SC main post (from 6th August) I quoted in #135 above you can see that even Prof Landis believes rebels were advancing in Damascus countryside.

The Syrian Arab Army is on the retreat in the North, Aleppo, Idlib and now some high points East of Latakia as well. The Free Syrian Army is making progress in Damascus countryside as well.

August 12th, 2013, 4:48 pm

 

zoo said:

Dempsey: The fall of Bashar al Assad’s government will not solve the regional conflict

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/12/dempsey-israel-white/2644031/

“This is a regional conflict that stretches from Beirut to Damascus to Baghdad,” Dempsey said. “It’s the unleashing of historic ethnic, religious and tribal animosities.

“Even if the Assad regime were to fail tomorrow, the issues that fueled it will persist for some time,” Dempsey said.

“It will take a great deal of work and a great deal of time to resolve,” he said. “We really do have to take a longer view than perhaps sometimes are discussed in certain circles.”

August 12th, 2013, 4:58 pm

 

zoo said:

#139 Revenire

Remember a few weeks ago Uzair’s excitment about the renewal of the Daraa’s front after an attack on a outpost in the suburb. It was then followed by the visit of Jarba. Since then total silence.
The West propaganda in favor of the opposition is in full swing again, this time financed by Saudi money.

August 12th, 2013, 5:04 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Zoo #143

Mr Jarba’s visit was just a few days ago on Eid. It was safe for him to visit and pray and speak at a mosque.

August 12th, 2013, 5:13 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Revenire

If Syria Comment isn’t influential what are you doing here wasting your considerable talents on this uninfluential blog? LOL.

August 12th, 2013, 5:21 pm

 

zoo said:

Erdo?an’s troubled days in the Middle East

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/erdogans-troubled-days-in-the-middle-east.aspx?pageID=238&nid=52422&NewsCatID=409
….
Perhaps there is no need to repeat that Turkey still has no relations with Israel and Syria, and only minimal relations with Egypt following the July 3 coup. Syria is becoming a bigger pain in Ankara’s neck every other day.

The PKK wants Turkey to intervene in the fight to stop al-Nusra from killing Kurds in Syria. It is a very hard decision for the government. At first it would be hard to explain to the Turkish public that they have to help the PKK

It is true that photos of Gen. Selim Idriss, the head of the FSA, were released, reportedly showing him near al-Assad’s hometown and stronghold of Latakia. But the FSA and the Syrian National Coalition in general is not as strong as before since the coup in Egypt, which toppled Muslim Brotherhood-backed President Mohamad Morsi; the brotherhood is in decline across the Middle East, in contrast to the rise of al-Qaeda.

Al-Qaeda is stepping up its presence in Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Arabic-speaking Africa, too.
,,,

August 12th, 2013, 5:21 pm

 

zoo said:

#145 Uzair8

The Syrian government will gain nothing of making a martyr out of a Saudi puppet. He is serving Bashar al Assad much better alive.
The same applies to Selim Idriss.

August 12th, 2013, 5:26 pm

 

zoo said:

US sees Syrian violence spill over into Iraq
13/08/2013

WASHINGTON, Aug 12 (KUNA) — Violence in Syria is having a “very negative effect” on Iraq, the State department said Monday, as suicide bombers and arms flow into and out of the porous Iraq-Syrian border.
“The situation in Syria has clearly fueled tensions in the region and foreign fighters, many of whom become suicide bombers, like some of the attacks we’ve seen in Iraq, are flowing into Syria and then many more of them are making their way into Iraq,” State department spokeswoman Marie Harf explained to reporters.
Iraq’s Al Qaeda branch has reportedly merged with one of the most powerful Islamist rebel groups in Syria to form The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant. The group now controls towns and villages in both countries, with access to funds, weapons and recruits.
Al Qaeda claimed responsibility last month for simultaneous raids on two Iraqi prisons and said more than 500 inmates had escaped in the brazen operation.
During recent bilateral meetings in Washington, Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov agreed to hold, “as quickly as possible,” the Geneva II conference to find a solution the Syrian crisis. Both officials agreed to look into furthering humanitarian assistance inside Syria, according to Harf.
“But our goal is to move as quickly as possible when we can have a conference that has the best chance to succeed. We’re not just having a conference to have a conference,” she said.
Meanwhile, Harf responded on recent commends by Kurdistan Regional President Massoud Barzani to defend Syrian Kurds under threat by Al-Qaeda, by urging Barzani and all groups to avoid “any actions that would exacerbate tensions and increase the risk of violence inside Syria and beyond its borders.

August 12th, 2013, 5:29 pm

 

habib said:

97. Uzair8

Lol. Denial of opposition crimes worked in the beginning, but you can only cry wolf so many times.

August 12th, 2013, 5:43 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

PM Erdogan’s big booming voice and rhetoric was reassuring and a great support for the revolution in the early days but went quiet ever since.

Bye for real now.

August 12th, 2013, 5:57 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Uzair8 said Revenir has intelectual talent
Being Rafidi
Zoo said since then(two days) it was total silence, I guess two days is a very long time to him

August 12th, 2013, 5:57 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair if O’Bagy replies ask her if she’s old enough to order a beer.

Thx.

August 12th, 2013, 6:27 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

LOL

Just a clarification as the reliability of Yalla Souriya (YS) is involved.

Omen

Earlier the YS updates I shared apparently confirming Father Paolo’s fate seemed unconfirmed and premature.

It’s important to point out the user posting under the name Yallasouriya is sitting in for the usual person who happens to be resting:

Posted by user Yallasouriya over 7 hours ago:

Blog is updated for the last 7 hours. We will be back to post if any emergency and to look for Father Paolo’s news. Yalla is still resting. We will let you know when she will be back. Thank you for those who have mistaken me for her. I will tell her

PS: Btw, there seems to be lack of activity on SC. Are people having trouble with posting comments. It takes me several attempts and refreshes to post.

August 12th, 2013, 6:54 pm

 

Tara said:

The US Dempsey acknowledges that battlefield necessity may require cooperation between the FSA and the “radicals”… and therefore I add if the coast/Damascus are liberated with the “radicals” help, that doesn’t mean necessarily that the moderate FSA wants an Islamic Qaeda rule.  I think it is great for the US to reach this understanding.  

  

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/world/middleeast/syria-risks-shape-mideast-visit-by-chairman-of-joint-chiefs-of-staff.html?_r=0

He acknowledged that radical militias, which assumed an ascendant role in the civil war about six months ago, remained a powerful force with some of the best fighters on the rebel side. But in the last six months, he said, the United States has increased its ability to identify moderate opposition leaders, and to begin communicating with them in substantive ways.

Even so, he acknowledged that battlefield necessity may require radical and moderate militias to cooperate for tactical gains against the Assad regime — a convergence that would complicate American and allied policy making.

“It doesn’t surprise me that from time to time they collaborate with each other,” he said. “What we have to be alert for are opportunities to convince the more moderate aspects of the opposition that Syria will be a far better place if the moderate opposition dominates in the end game.”

August 12th, 2013, 7:01 pm

 

Tara said:

Uzair

Can you link the recent Asma picture you mentioned earlier.

August 12th, 2013, 7:07 pm

 

zoo said:

Russia expects int’l conference on Syria to start after September

[ 13 August 2013 02:13 ]

Baku-APA. Moscow foresees the international conference on Syria could start after September only, a high- ranking Russian diplomat said Monday, APA reports quoting Xinhua.

“It would hardly happen in September, because there will be other events, for instance, the UN General Assembly’s ministerial week,” the Interfax news agency reported, quoting Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov as saying.

The Russian diplomat said his country did want to convene the conference as soon as possible.

“But we have to take into account the real circumstances which could affect that forum,” the diplomat said, who disclosed that Russia and U.S. representatives would meet late August to discuss details of preparation for the conference.

August 12th, 2013, 7:11 pm

 

omen said:

74. Ghufran said: Rebel supporters were lobbying for an invasion similar to that of Iraq.

absolutely not true. indication of weakness of argument when you have to resort to building strawmen to knock over.

August 12th, 2013, 7:19 pm

 

revenire said:

“PS: Btw, there seems to be lack of activity on SC. Are people having trouble with posting comments. It takes me several attempts and refreshes to post.”

Yeah, it is all messed up for me too. I thought it was Idriss working his mojo on us Assad supporters? 😉 Is this the Front to Liberate SC? Please, if you behead me send the rest of the body to my wife. She has grown fond of me.

August 12th, 2013, 7:26 pm

 

revenire said:

Capt. Omen I can kick in a few bucks if you want to go help the FSA in Homs in person. I even have an old water pistol I am not using at the moment. You could fill it with bleach and claim it is a regime chemical weapon.

August 12th, 2013, 7:29 pm

 

omen said:

Just Google ISW and read about them. This isn’t secret information. ISW is open about their politics.

while it’s good to be cognizant of their sponsors, this doesn’t refute their credibility.

in order to do that you’d have to go into their research & demonstrate how their analysis wrong.

you don’t because that would take work.

the group has increasingly attracted the support of military contractors with active stakes in the wars the group supports prolonging.

right, like we’re dumping boatloads of weapons on desperately undergunned rebels. or are on the verge of invading syria. not.

nobody profits from the war more than russia & iran.

August 12th, 2013, 7:32 pm

 

revenire said:

Omen no, I don’t have to do anything at all. You believe ISW because you want to and I know that for an absolute fact. You’re no expert on war Omen. Politics is a bit more complex than “ASSAD BAD REBELS GOOD”. If this was Iraq and Bush you’d be on my side and we both know it. ISW is a propaganda mill and has a dog in the fight.

As far as who profits from the war… the same people who drew the maps for the region back when the Ottoman Empire fell. The same people that invaded Iraq and murdered 500,000 Iraqis. Those guys Omen. Listen to me and learn a little. Get off Twitter.

Some of you guys are wound up tighter than a cheap Timex. Just act normal and talk.

August 12th, 2013, 7:39 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair send O’Bagy this one and tell her to disprove it using what I am going to start calling “The Omen Test” okay? Get back to me. Thx.

THIRD POST – AUGUST 12, 2013 – ___* TERRORISTS TAKE SATAN’S SCOOTER TO HELL IN HOMS; COMPLETE ANARCHY AMONG TERRORISTS AS ARMY TAKES THEM DOWN ONE BY ONE.

Baab Hood: The Syrian Army has now advanced into 80% of Baab Hood and there is no realistic way for the ___* terrorists to stop the complete annihilation of their positions. Yesterday, Wael reports that 44 of their rodents jumped ship and demanded implementation of the amnesty program. According to their statements, the remaining vermin terrorists are all foreigners, many from Lebanon with some Tunisians and Scarabians.

Their deaths will be appropriate.

An infiltration out of Baab Hood and into Al-Waleediyya School and the Personal Records Building was foiled 2 days ago by alert NDF who opened a volley of intense fire forcing the escaping rodents to return to hopeless positions. NDF claims confirmed 3 dead rodents. Nobody wants to pick up their carcasses.

*censored to not offend the cannibal supporters

August 12th, 2013, 7:43 pm

 

Tara said:

More Shiaa terror organization.  The Badr organization.  Is Aaron Lund taking notes? 

http://jihadology.net/2013/08/12/hizballah-cavalcade-breaking-badr-the-new-season-confirmation-of-the-badr-organizations-involvement-in-syria/  

On another note, how is Harasta doing? I can’t get over how Harasta suddenly became famous. Never paid attention to it as a little girl. Now I think about Harasta often… I want to understand the revelation of the Mahdi showing in Harasta. How did the singer even knew about the existence of Harasta? Was it marIjuana, cocaine or another hallucinogen? I’ll sure walk Harasta next time i am in Damascus. It is replacing my Hamidieh itinerary..

August 12th, 2013, 7:44 pm

 

omen said:

uzair, i wasn’t questioning YS reliability. i follow them on twitter, not the blog. he put out the story with repeated caveats it wasn’t confirmed yet.

i can be calm & objective about it now but initially this news threw us for a loop.

August 12th, 2013, 7:46 pm

 

omen said:

i never claimed to be an expert on war.

The same people that invaded Iraq and murdered 500,000 Iraqis.

neocons are split on this issue. half support intervention, other half, opposed. lunatic daniel pipes is for arming the regime for pete’s sake.

get off your high horse. assad sent fighters into iraq who killed not only american gis but civilians as well.

August 12th, 2013, 7:52 pm

 

revenire said:

Omen go downtown to Gene Scott’s old church tonight and pray God forgives you.

🙂

August 12th, 2013, 8:04 pm

 

omen said:

161. revenire said: I don’t have to do anything at all.

we all know that’s your motto you live by.

August 12th, 2013, 8:14 pm

 

Syrialover said:

OMEN

Your responses are good. REVENIRE is playing standard lazy distraction games with you.

He’s got no alternative credible analysis or information to offer, just the classic weak tactic of attacking the source and making smartass ugly comments.

He also resorts to template anti-American stuff imagining that automatically helps his game.

August 12th, 2013, 8:24 pm

 

omen said:

somebody pls contact barber. page is so hard to pull up nevermind post.

from the activist on the ground in raqqa:

Amazing! Seems FSA were investgating too link between Assad and Al-Qaida/ISIS as we were, and they have now arrested few ISIS people.

August 12th, 2013, 9:13 pm

 

omen said:

UPDATE [17:12 GMT]:

Syrian opposition activist Salam Kawakibi, deputy director at Arab Reform Initiative, told Italian news agency ANSA that, according to a “reliable source” from a “revolutionary group” in ar-Raqqah, Father Dall’Oglio is still alive and is still held as a “guest” by ISIS fighters.

August 12th, 2013, 9:21 pm

 

revenire said:

Jad Bantha is the tweep who said he was sitting with the dead ‘priest’ (except he wasn’t).

Now Assad is the one behind Nusra? And the FSA is arresting some ISIS guys? LOL

Omen you fall for anything.

August 12th, 2013, 9:28 pm

 

ghufran said:

I posted a tweet yesterday from a source claiming that father Paolo was killed by his captors, Amal Hanano said he is alive, the Vatican is not sure, we just do not know:

Vatican City, August 12, 2013 (Zenit.org) Junno Arocho Esteves
The Holy See Press Office stated that they are still looking into reports that Jesuit Father Paolo Dall’Oglio, who was kidnapped in Syria several weeks ago, was killed by his captors.
“Nothing is confirmed. We are still evaluating the information,” Fr. Ciro Benedettini, vice director of the Holy See Press Office told Vatican Radio. The unconfirmed reports first appeared on Arabic news site “Zaman Alwasi” regarding the Jesuit priest who disappeared two weeks ago in Northern Syria.
Vatican Radio also reported that the citizens of Raqqa, the village where Fr. Dall’Oglio was last seen, took to the streets calling for the release of the Jesuit missionary as well as for those who have kidnapped in the ongoing conflict in Syria.
Killing father paolo would be a huge mistake but Nusra has its own agenda.

August 12th, 2013, 9:56 pm

 

zoo said:

The Islamic State fighters decapitate opponents and distribute toys

Al-Qaeda expands in Syria via Islamic State

=http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/al-qaeda-expands-in-syria-via-islamic-state/2013/08/12/3ef71a26-036a-11e3-9259-e2aafe5a5f84_story_1.html=

“There are a lot of reasons to worry that Syria will emerge as an even more powerful variant of what Afghanistan was more than 30 years ago,” he said.

areas, such as Raqqah, most Jabhat al-Nusra followers readily acceded to the announced merger, facilitating the Islamic State’s rapid ascendancy. In Hama province, a Jabhat al-Nusra leader who criticized the extremism of the Islamic State was detained by that group’s fighters until he recanted his comments.

In one town close to the Turkish border, al-Dana, Islamic State fighters consolidated their authority by shooting people who demonstrated against them, confiscating the weapons of the local unit of the Free Syrian Army and beheading its commander.
….
The Islamic State also has sought to win hearts and minds. A video posted over the weekend showed them distributing toys, including Teletubbies, at a gathering held in Aleppo to mark the Eid al-Fitr religious holiday.
….
Charles Lister of the defense consultancy IHS Jane’s. “They’re highly organized, and that allows them to present themselves as an organization capable of running a town,” he said.

And unlike in Iraq during the insurgency, Islamic State fighters don’t have to contend with U.S. forces hunting them down, said Brian Fishman, a former director of research at West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center who is now with the New America Foundation. “They can plan better and discipline better, and that is dangerous.” he said.

August 12th, 2013, 10:34 pm

 

ziad said:

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part (1/2)

http://www.mepanorama.com/327151/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%80%D8%A9-%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%87%D8%A7-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%80/

part (2/2)

http://www.mepanorama.com/327962/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%80%D8%A9-%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%87%D8%A7-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%80-2/

August 12th, 2013, 10:40 pm

 

revenire said:

“In one town close to the Turkish border, al-Dana, Islamic State fighters consolidated their authority by shooting people who demonstrated against them, confiscating the weapons of the local unit of the Free Syrian Army and beheading its commander.”

The FSA’s allies. LOL too much.

August 12th, 2013, 10:58 pm

 

ziad said:

Christian Syrian soldier dies defending a Mosque from AlQaeda, refused to leave comrades behind even when wounded

Defending Mosque Barefoot out of Respect

August 13th, 2013, 12:02 am

 

zoo said:

#172 Ghufran

If Paolo della’s Oglio is a ‘guest’ to the Islamic State fighters in Al Raqqa, how happen he has not been allowed to call on phone or be videotaped to prove he is alive.
In the absence of any sign of life, I think the chances are high that he has been executed by his captors.

August 13th, 2013, 12:07 am

 

omen said:

yoohoo ?

mjabali,

rebels deliver an alawite baby!

https://twitter.com/troublejee/status/367024450501226497

so much for wahhabi ethnic cleansing.

August 13th, 2013, 12:17 am

 

omen said:

zoo, the father sent out an sms to another priest right after his capture.

https://twitter.com/daverck/status/367073067484196864

is the group angling for a prisoner exchange deal?

August 13th, 2013, 12:22 am

 

zoo said:

While Idriss plays the smart tourist in Alawite land…

Al-Qaeda seeks to export the Iraqi chaos in Syria

http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/article/2013/08/12/al-qaida-cherche-a-exporter-le-chaos-irakien-en-syrie_3460325_3218.html

… The strategy of the Islamic State ( ISIS)
????? ????????? ?? ?????? ?????? is to drag the country into a vicious cycle of sectarian and ethnic violence, which is the breeding ground for his anti-Shia propaganda, anti-Christian propaganda.

August 13th, 2013, 12:23 am

 

zoo said:

Omen

Della Oglio is not a “guest” of the ISIS, he is a hostage or he is dead.

August 13th, 2013, 12:26 am

 

ziad said:

Zionist/Nazi filth murdering a Palestinian woman carrying a white flag & then laughing about it

Israel’s Collateral Murder?

August 13th, 2013, 12:27 am

 

zoo said:

After Libyan weapons and Croatian weapons , Qatar is buying Sudan weapons to be delivered to the Islamists terrorists with the ‘friendly’ help of hypocrite Turkey

Sudan reported to sell arms to rebels in Syria
August 13, 2013 12:12 am

By C.J. Chivers and Eric Schmitt / The New York Times

Syrian rebels, frustrated by the West’s reluctance to provide arms, have found a supplier in an unlikely source: Sudan, a country that has been under international arms embargoes and maintains close ties with a stalwart backer of the Syrian government, Iran.

In deals that have not been publicly acknowledged, Western officials and Syrian rebels say, Sudan’s government sold Sudanese- and Chinese-made arms to Qatar, which arranged delivery through Turkey to the rebels.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/world/sudan-reported-to-sell-arms-to-rebels-in-syria-699128/#ixzz2bouWEN4I
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August 13th, 2013, 12:31 am

 

zoo said:

Like the Egyptians rejected the Moslem Brotherhood just after tasting them for a year, the Syrians in ‘liberated areas’ are rejecting their ‘liberators’ Al Nusra and their affiliates.
Who will help them to get rid of them for good? The FSA , the SAA?

Syria jihadists lose support as abuses mount
Al-Qaeda linked factions: Al-Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, are not welcome and rejected by civilians and residents
AFP , Thursday 11 Jul 2013
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/0/76269/World/0/Syria-jihadists-lose-support-as-abuses-mount.aspx

In the early days of the Syrian uprising, when opponents of the regime were desperate for assistance from any quarter, jihadist fighters were welcomed but a spate of abuses is fuelling a backlash.

Things have changed.

“Out, out, out, the (Islamic) State (of Iraq and Syria) must get out,” protesters shouted at a rally in the northern town of Manbij this week, referring to an Al-Qaeda front group.

The video of the demonstration is one of many showing how civilians and mainstream rebel fighters alike are turning against the more hardline Islamist factions.

The rebel forces seeking to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad are disparate but many espouse political Islam of one form or another.

There are two main Al-Qaeda linked factions, both with Iraqi origins, according to Washington — the Al-Nusra Front, which has operational independence, and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), a front for Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

Numerous other smaller groups, many of them composed almost exclusively of foreign fighters, are also operating on the ground.

Unlike the mainstream rebel Free Syrian Army, which has received weapons from several Gulf Arab governments as well as promises of US arms, the jihadist groups rely on private donations.

But there are enough wealthy benefactors attracted to their fundamentalist vision to ensure a steady stream of weapons, as well as volunteer fighters from around the world, many of them seasoned in other conflicts.

That has helped them become a fighting force out of proportion to their numbers, and they have captured several population centres.

But their imposition of their extreme form of Islam has increasingly alienated civilians.

In Raqa, the only provincial capital in rebel hands, the Al-Nusra Front is accused of detaining dozens of men.

“My father has been held for a month by the Front. They think they’re Islamic… I want my father to be free,” weeps a little girl in one Raqa protest, footage of which was posted online.

“We reject this oppressive brand of Islam… We are Muslims. You’re just fakes,” a woman protester cried in another video from Raqa, demanding the release of the men held by Nusra.

Activists in the city also point to the disappearance of Abdallah al-Khalil, a veteran dissident and human rights activist.

“Khalil was about to open up council elections to the whole of Raqa. Al-Nusra was against the idea. He disappeared the next day,” an activist from Raqa told AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.

Nizar, an activist from the eastern province of Deir Ezzor, said: “Time is running out for all these (jihadist) groups.

“They use violence and religion to try control us and, although people are afraid to openly express their dissent, no one wants them.”

August 13th, 2013, 12:38 am

 

omen said:

zoo, where did i say guest????????????

i’ve been saying he’s been kidnapped on twitter.

August 13th, 2013, 12:42 am

 

zoo said:

Omen

Not you but others on this blog have said he was a guest.. Now they say nothing, they are embarrassed that their ‘noble’ rebels could detain and maybe execute an anti-regime activist just because he is a ‘heretic’ christian.

August 13th, 2013, 12:49 am

 

don said:

Syria and Kurdish massacres: US backed FSA fighting side by side with Al-Qaeda affiliates

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and al-Nusra are both affiliated to al-Qaeda. Yet despite this President Obama continues to support the Free Syrian Army (FSA) which openly fights alongside both terrorist factions. Currently, the FSA is also assisting the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and al-Nusra in their ethnic cleansing of Kurds. Recently, hundreds of Kurds have been brutally killed by forces being supported by major NATO and Gulf powers. This includes the slaughter of vast numbers of Kurdish children. Therefore, not only is Obama tainting America with its alignment with terrorist and sectarian forces which are cleansing religious minorities like the Alawites, Christians, and the Shia; but now the Obama administration is tainting itself just like the Erdogan government in Turkey with the ethnic cleansing of Kurds in the north of Syria.

It doesn’t take a genius to realize that the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and al-Nusra are not fully focused on Damascus; on the contrary, they are cleansing religious and ethnic groups in order to install a Sharia Islamic state based on draconian Gulf Islam emanating from Saudi Arabia. This reality means that al-Qaeda, which was behind September 11 and killing thousands of American soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq, is now an open ally with America in Syria. Of course, Obama and other politicians like John McCain and Lindsey Graham in America can manipulate language openly in order to cover up their deceit. However, video footage and photos clearly show the FSA working side-by-side with al-Qaeda affiliated groups.

Not surprisingly, the recent massacres against Kurdish civilians is being met by denial, silence and trying to cover-up the sectarian and terrorist ratlines. Yet for the Kurds it is clear that certain NATO and Gulf powers are arming their adversaries, while the Kurds in Iraq and the PKK are involved in deals with Prime Minister Erdogan of Turkey. However, how much longer can Kurdish political leaders in Iraq and the PKK deal with Erdogan given the mass slaughter of Kurds in northern Syria? After all, modern day Turkey is a conduit for military arms and boosting terrorist numbers in Syria which are now slaughtering Kurdish women and children with open glee.

Returning back to the duplicity of the Obama administration and political elites in France and the United Kingdom – then how much longer can these nations get away with supporting al-Qaeda affiliates by stealth? Gulf petrodollars, Jordan and Turkey are regionally supporting terrorist and sectarian forces. While powerful Western states are involved in the arming, logistics, training, planning and other areas of the conflict to various degrees.

The Long War Journal states that “We have reported numerous times that the Free Syrian Army actively colludes with al Qaeda’s branches, the ISIL and the Al Nusrah Front for the People in the Levant. The report of the joint celebration in Aleppo is just further evidence that the Free Syrian Army conducts activities with al Qaeda in Syria. Inexplicably, the US is continuing with a plan to arm the FSA.”

In a recent military battle Col. Abdul Jabbar al-Okaidi, who is supported by America and other outside nations, gave gratitude to “our brothers al-Muhajireen wal Ansar and others….We’re here to kiss every hand pressed on the trigger.”

http://moderntokyotimes.com/2013/08/12/syria-and-kurdish-massacres-us-backed-fsa-fighting-side-by-side-with-al-qaeda-affiliates/

August 13th, 2013, 1:53 am

 

don said:

France’s New Anti-capitalist Party seeks to cover up its support for Middle East wars

In an attempt to salvage what little remains of his “socialist” credentials, Professor Gilbert Achcar, a longtime associate of France’s New Anti-capitalist Party (NPA), has written an essay entitled “Inventive Illiteracy Amidst Petty Sectarianism.”

Working at London’s School of Oriental and African Studies and within the NPA-linked Socialist Resistance group in Britain, Achcar has been a leading propagandist for the wars in Syria and in Libya, which he claimed were waged in defense of human rights. Despite the fact that pro-war propaganda has enveloped his political persona with an ineradicable stench.

Though Mr. Achcar does not care to review the record of his political support for the neo-colonial enterprises in Libya and Syria, he cannot be allowed to rewrite his own history. The record is clear: Achcar publicly supported imperialist wars and discussed their prosecution with US and French intelligence assets. He bears political responsibility for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.

From the outset of the Libyan operation, Achcar played a key role in promoting the propaganda required by imperialism to build a pro-war constituency within the milieu of the “leftish” affluent middle class. In March 2011, two days after the passage of UN Security Council Resolution 1973 authorizing war in Libya, Achcar published an interview praising the war as a humanitarian operation to keep Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s regime from attacking opposition groups in Benghazi.

Two years later, it is clear that the war Achcar embraced was an act of imperialist plunder. The NATO powers seized Libya’s oil revenues and oil fields, carpet-bombed cities, including Tripoli and Sirte, and killed and wounded tens of thousands of people. It brought to power a NATO stooge regime based on a patchwork of Islamist militias that were NATO’s main proxy force to topple and murder Gaddafi.

In his latest piece, Achcar seeks to distort the facts surrounding his October 2011 meeting in Sweden with Burhan Ghalioun, the president of the opposition Syrian National Council (SNC). During this meeting, he advised Ghalioun not to call for a NATO invasion of Syria—which would risk provoking mass popular opposition—but for “indirect” intervention to arm opposition forces.

In the event, this is the policy NATO ultimately pursued, arming the SNC and other Islamist opposition forces, including some tied to Al Qaeda. It led to a devastating proxy war in Syria that, in two years, has claimed over 100,000 lives and forced millions to flee their homes.

In his current article, Achcar denounces as a “canard” claims that “I took part in a meeting of the Syrian National Council (whereas it was actually a meeting of the left-wing National Coordination Council) in order to urge them to call for an imperialist intervention in Syria (whereas my contribution to the meeting was dedicated to exactly the opposite).”

Achcar’s denial is simply rubbish. He himself publicly announced that he had met with Ghalioun and described his advice to the SNC in an article published in November 2011 in the Lebanese daily Al Akhbar. The NPA reposted the article, including on its English language web site, International Viewpoint .

In this article, he wrote: “I was able to attend the meeting of the Syrian opposition that was held on October 8-9 in Sweden, near the capital, Stockholm. A number of male and female activists operating in Syria and abroad joined with prominent figures from the Syrian Coordination Committee (SNC—who had come from Syria for the event) in the presence of the most prominent member of the Syrian National Council—its president, Burhan Ghalioun.”

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/08/13/achc-a13.html

August 13th, 2013, 2:22 am

 

don said:

Israel’s Erin Boy

Dempsey in Israel, Jordan, to tie last ends before Obama decides finally on US military action in Syria

DEBKA Weekly 598 on Aug. 1:

1. US, British, French, Saudi and United Arab Emirates will establish a no-fly zone over central and southern Syria, stretching from the Jordanian-Israeli borders up to and including Damascus.

2. The Israeli Air Force will provide these forces with air cover from Syrian air space.

3. A 40-kilometer deep military buffer zone will be drawn from the Jordanian-Israeli borders up to the southern and western outskirts of Damascus. The military units controlling this zone will hold the entire area of the capital within artillery range.

4. The southern Syrian town of Deraa, where the Syrian uprising sprang up, will be declared capital of Liberated Syria.

5. President Obama has determined that there will no American troops in the buffer zone or anywhere else on Syrian soil, only special Syrian rebel forces.

6. Those forces will consist of 3,000 fighters trained in Jordan by US military instructors. They will be headed by Jordanian special forces and operate under US officers based in Jordan.

7. To host them, the US Army has just finished building in the Hashemite Kingdom a huge training camp and logistical system, debkafile’s military sources report. All the weapons and equipment required to train and arm the rebel force are already stacked there.

8. The American operational command center for the Syrian operation is already in place in Amman led by US Brig. Gen. John Wright, who at 57 is a veteran of the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

9. The US air force units for imposing the no-fly zone over Syria are already in position at Middle East locations and ready to go at 36 hours’ notice.

10. A Druze unit trained by US military instructors will be a key component of the special rebel force. It was put up by the million-strong community which populates 120 villages and towns in the Jabal al-Druze area of southern Syria. They are situated in a commanding position overlooking the Syrian-Jordanian-Iraqi border triangle.

11. US forces deployed in the Middle East, especially in Jordan and Israel, will stand ready for possible reprisals against American, Israeli, Jordanian or Turkish targets, if ordered by Syrian President Bashar Assad in retaliation for the no-fly and buffer zones.

http://www.debka.com/article/23191/Dempsey-in-Israel-Jordan-to-tie-last-ends-before-Obama-decides-finally-on-US-military-action-in-Syria

August 13th, 2013, 2:36 am

 

don said:

Syrian War Shapes Trip by Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

TEL AVIV — The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff opened a weeklong visit to the Middle East on Monday for discussions on potential additions of American support to Israel and Jordan, which are both facing border-security challenges from the conflict in neighboring Syria.

The chairman, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, said his talks in Jordan would include an assessment of whether American surveillance aircraft or collaboration on other border-control techniques could help the Jordanians, whose country is the emergency home to tens of thousands of Syrian refugees — and, increasingly, a route for black-market weapons transported both ways across the Syrian frontier.

Syria has accused Jordan of acting as a transit point for weapons supplied to Syrian rebels, an accusation Jordan has denied. In recent days, the Jordanian authorities have detained suspected smugglers, including Syrians, accused of attempting to bring antitank missiles, surface-to-air missiles, assault rifles and other arms from Syria into Jordan — possibly part of an attempt by jihadists in Syria to foment unrest in Jordan as well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/world/middleeast/syria-risks-shape-mideast-visit-by-chairman-of-joint-chiefs-of-staff.html?_r=0

August 13th, 2013, 2:56 am

 

habib said:

Salafistes are now surrounding Israel from Sinai and the Golan, no one is hindering them from attacking Israel

So what are they waiting for? Do what you critisise Assad for not doing! It is the only way they can gain a little respect from me.

Damn hypocrites. If they can attack the Kurds, they sure as hell could attack the Israelis too. But they don’t want to upset their masters in the Gulf, who are direct allies wit the Zionists.

August 13th, 2013, 8:24 am

 

zoo said:

After watching with anxiety what is happening in Iraq and Turkey’s border towns with Syria, Jordan probably prefer to have the SAA instead of the Islamists in control of Deraa.

http://www.aawsat.net/2013/08/article55313396

Fragments of the Syrian conflict hit Jordan yesterday with missiles landing near intelligence headquarters in the border town of Ramtha, reportedly as a result of clashes between government forces and militias affiliated with the Free Syrian Army (FSA).

Clashes have increased since the leader of the National Coalition for the Syrian Opposition forces, Ahmad Jarba, entered the town of Dera’a and visited areas controlled by the opposition forces, where he carried out Eid prayers.

Sources pointed out that the FSA has been trying to take control of Dera’a—close to the border with Jordan—for almost a year. Two shells landed near a military intelligence building yesterday, without any causalities, while a third landed near a populated area.

August 13th, 2013, 9:06 am

 

zoo said:

The SNC “roadmap”: Disarm the armed forces and build a political system based on the 1950 Constitution.
It sounds more like a goal than a roadmap.
Is this is a gimmick to try to counter the “bone in the throat” imposed by the US and Russia, called the Geneva conference, or in the contrary is it an attempt by these pompous announcements to hide the humiliation of having to swallow the bone ?

Syria opposition proposes transition roadmap

Armed groups would be disarmed, demobilised and reintegrated into Syrian society under plan

http://gulfnews.com/in-focus/syria/syria-opposition-proposes-transition-roadmap-1.1219832

August 13th, 2013, 9:16 am

 

zoo said:

#191 Habib

Sunni Wahabbis hate more Shias, Hezbollah and the Moslem Brotherhood than they hate Israel.

By doing nothing on the borders, they try to reassure the West that Sunni Islamists are less of a threat to Israel than Hezbollah or the Syrian government are.

August 13th, 2013, 9:29 am

 

zoo said:

The SNC “roadmap”: Disarm the armed forces and build a political system based on the 1950 Constitution.
It sounds more like a goal than a roadmap.
If this is a gimmick to try to counter the “bone in the throat” imposed by the US and Russia, called the Geneva conference, or in the contrary is it an attempt by these pompous announcements to hide the humiliation of having to swallow the bone ?

Syria opposition proposes transition roadmap

Armed groups would be disarmed, demobilised and reintegrated into Syrian society under plan

http://gulfnews.com/in-focus/syria/syria-opposition-proposes-transition-roadmap-1.1219832

August 13th, 2013, 9:33 am

 

zoo said:

Syria power vacuum could pave way for al Qaeda leadership

(Charlie Rose on video)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57598252/syria-power-vacuum-could-pave-way-for-al-qaeda-leadership/

(CBS News) Senior U.S. intelligence officials are concerned about the growing presence of al Qaeda terrorists in civil war-torn Syria. In a statement released over the weekend, the State Department said the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) has moved himself and the group’s operations to Syria. A State Department spokesperson also noted that the deadly suicide attacks and car bombings carried out in Iraq in recent days can be attributed to AQI.

CIA Deputy Director Michael Morrell warned of the risk of the collapse of the Syrian government — which possesses a considerable stockpile of chemical and advanced weapons — namely, a power vacuum which would leave room for al Qaeda to take hold and take advantage of their weapons cache and technical capabilities.

August 13th, 2013, 9:35 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
Who does not hate Shiaa?everybody hates them

August 13th, 2013, 9:38 am

 

zoo said:

Are the accumulation of upsetting events in Turkey affecting Erdogan’s health? If he does not succeed in becoming am all-power president in 2014 will he withdraw from public life

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-pm-to-travel-abroad-amid-speculation-over-his-health.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52430&NewsCatID=338

Speculation about Erdo?an’s health has been rife since he had surgery to remove polyps from his intestines in late 2011.

Polyps are abnormal growths of tissue that can be cancerous. However, following the surgery, Turkish media cited Erdo?an’s doctor as saying the polyps had been harmless.

Reports published in Yurt newspaper and other Turkish dailies on Aug. 12 said Erdo?an had spent five days in hospital with an upset stomach. The papers provided no source for the reports.

In a statement, Erdo?an’s office called the reports “baseless allegations” and said the prime minister, in power since 2003, would begin his usual schedule this weekend after several days of holiday marking the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

Erdo?an, who normally speaks daily on live television and travels frequently around the country, has not appeared in public over the holiday period.

Power in Turkey has become highly centralized around Erdo?an, who has made little secret about his desire to become president, and rifts have emerged within his party during previous absences.

Two consecutive Cabinet meetings were canceled following Erdo?an’s surgery, fueling speculation about what would happen if the man who has towered over Turkish politics for the last decade were to withdraw from public life.

August 13th, 2013, 9:45 am

 

habib said:

197. majedkhaldoun

Could you answer the question instead of derailing the issue? Why are our brave Mujahids even more passive towards Israel than the Assads ever were?

Are they waiting for the right time and place? LOOOL!

August 13th, 2013, 9:47 am

 

zoo said:

#197 Majed

Yawn…. Your expression of hatred is becoming so repetitive and boring

August 13th, 2013, 9:49 am

 

zoo said:

#197 Majed

Yawn…. Your expression of hatred is becoming so repetitive and boring.
Take a laxative.

August 13th, 2013, 9:50 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
Why are you hungry?

August 13th, 2013, 10:03 am

 

revenire said:

“197. MAJEDKHALDOUN said:
Zoo
Who does not hate Shiaa?everybody hates them”

Majed I’ve never seen a more hateful person. I feel sorry for you.

August 13th, 2013, 10:15 am

 

Sami said:

Habib,

Is it the rebels with all te heavy weapons, Air Force, Scuds, tank brigades or is it Jaysh Abu Shahata?

Please do explain where was yor heroic Jaysh Abu Shahata when Israel keeps flying sorties in and out of Syian airspace while bombing Abu Shahata targets?

What is the rethithtanth waiting for?

August 13th, 2013, 10:20 am

 

zoo said:

Syrian Kurds are on the verge of genocide 13.8.2013
Shakhawan Shorsh — Special to Ekurd.net

http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2013/8/syriakurd849.htm


The main Kurdish political parties had refused to join the FSA because the FSA had denied the recognition of Kurdish political and cultural rights in a post-Assad regime. However, the Kurds have managed to secure their territory and protect the area form the internal war. Kurdish control over the Kurdish territory disturbs both Turkey and the FSA

But what does this genocidal intention by the Al-Qaida-linked Islamists against the Syrian Kurds tell us? The extreme Islamists not only believe in the rule of Sharia and the creation of an Islamic state, which is comparable with the early Caliphate period, they also believe in the fundamental ideas of the jihad used in the early Islamic expansion period against non-Islam ethnic groups in the Middle East and North Africa in the seventh century. Mohammad the prophet of Islam and his successors regarded the other ethnic groups who refused Islam as Kufar (unbelievers) [i] . A successful strategy that was widely used against the enemies of Islam was to defeat the enemy, take their women, and loot their properties. Women were regarded as war profit, and the Islamic fighters could take them after the defeat of the enemy. The very killing was justified by a suar al-Anfal Quran [ii]. In fact, Arab Islamic forces have totally destroyed the enemy and their religion in some cases, for instance, in the destruction of the followers of Zoroastrian and the religion after the defeat of the Sasanian

Not surprisingly, there is not any condemnation of the crime from Turkey or other Muslim countries. This is not the first time the Kurds have experienced the silence of the other Muslim countries. When the Anfal genocide happened in 1988, not a single Arab or non-Arab Muslim country condemned the genocide, not even for the Kurdish Muslim victims. This tacit support repeated in 2004 when the Janjaweeds, supported by the Sudan government, killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Africans in Darfur. They were Muslims too but not Arabs. The Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) did not condemn the genocide of the Muslim people of Darfur in 2004 [vi].

August 13th, 2013, 10:55 am

 

revenire said:

Sami the SAA has a right to defend itself with any weapons in its arsenal. If you don’t like the results of the war stop demanding violent overthrow of the government. If you okay with the war then stop complaining about SAA weapons being used. You didn’t expect them to shoot flowers at the enemy did you?

August 13th, 2013, 10:56 am

 

zoo said:

Alan Duncan despairs that Syria is ‘insoluble and intractable’
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/1b37ecb8-0424-11e3-a8d6-00144feab7de.html#axzz2brWq3DrJ

The conflict in Syria is the most serious and intractable problem in the Middle East, Alan Duncan has said.

In comments that give a rare glimpse into UK government despair over what is happening in the war-torn country, the aid minister said the situation in Syria has now eclipsed that in Israel as the most difficult of the region’s clashes.

His views give a clear sign that the British government is cooling on the idea of arming Syrian rebels, despite having successfully campaigned to lift an EU embargo on doing so.

Ministers increasingly believe giving weapons to anti-Assad forces would not bring a resolution to the crisis and could result in them falling into the hands of extremists.

August 13th, 2013, 11:15 am

 

zoo said:

Majed

Your vulgarity goes well with your hatred. It stinks.

August 13th, 2013, 11:23 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
I hate the barbaric Prsians, as they support the criminal Assad, and as they always fought against Arab since thousands of years, and as they distorted the very idea and essence of Islam and they are well known to be liers and back stabers

August 13th, 2013, 11:23 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo #208
??????

August 13th, 2013, 11:42 am

 

revenire said:

Iraqi forces repel terrorists’ infiltration attempt to Syria

Baghdad, (SANA) – Iraqi forces continued operations against terrorists’ cells affiliated to al-Qaeda in Jazeret al-Anbar area and on Iraqi-Syrian borders and repelled an armed terrorist group’s attempt to infiltrate from Syria to Iraq at Rabia’a border area, killing a large number of its members, while the others escaped.

Iraqi official sources said that the Iraqi forces arrested 800 terrorists, destroyed 22 terrorists’ dens, discovering 41 caches full of weapons and explosive materials and destroying 21 boat used by terrorists to transport weapons and suicidal.

The sources pointed out that the so-called ” Free Army” and the terrorist gangs in Syria provided their counterparts in Iraq with advanced weapons, including anti-aircraft rockets to attack the helicopters of the Iraqi army.

B. Mousa/ Mazen
http://sana.sy/eng/22/2013/08/13/496928.htm

August 13th, 2013, 11:46 am

 

revenire said:

Syrian Rebels Destroy Orthodox Church in Al-Thawrah
http://www.aina.org/news/2013089111228.htm

Christian eyewitnesses who fled al-Thawrah, now displaced in other parts of Syria, as well as in Lebanon and Turkey, tell of religious discrimination by the rebels, as well as forced confiscation of Christian possessions and properties, with many items being sold on the black market in order to purchase weapons and ammunition. Even the churches weren’t spared.

“The ‘Free Syrian Army’ demolished the [Sts. Sergius and Bacchus] church,” lamented one refugee, “They tore up the sanctuary curtains, Bibles and other holy books, and broke all the crosses, chairs and icons of Jesus and the saints. They stole electrical appliances like fans, chandeliers and lights. They took whatever was in the church, and sold it all. There is nothing there now.”

There is no hope, however, for the Christians to return and rebuild after the conflict subsides — that’s if it indeed subsides. They were once considered better off than their relatives and friends who still lived in the villages they had migrated from, but are now destitute, having lost everything — their homes, businesses, and even personal belongings.

“Even though I have left,” recounted another Assyrian refugee, “the terrorists still call and text me from there, on my cell phone, to bother me. They recently called and told me: ‘If you attempt to return to al-Tabqah we will cut off your head and display it on the mosque so that all the Muslims there can see it and be proud of it.’ They say other things too, but what they say is so disturbing, that I keep my phone switched off unless I really need to use it.”

August 13th, 2013, 11:50 am

 

zoo said:

The FSA “ally”, ISIS, continue kidnapping pro-rebels activists while hundreds already held

In northern Syria, news broke of the disappearance of an anti-Assad activist known for his chants at weekly protests in the city of Aleppo.

“It is likely he is being held by ISIS,” Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman told AFP.

Amateur video distributed by the Observatory showed friends of Abu Maryam protesting at the gates of ISIS’ headquarters.

ISIS is believed to be holding hundreds of activists in areas where they operate.

Among the missing is Father Paolo Dall’Oglio, a charismatic Italian Jesuit priest who went to meet with ISIS’ commanders earlier this month to try to negotiate the release of activists, and has yet to return.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2013/Aug-13/227233-fighting-kills-18-syria-rebels-in-hama-activists.ashx#ixzz2brmeCd2M

August 13th, 2013, 12:18 pm

 

zoo said:

After Lebanon and Iraq, the threats of the Islamists seem about to spread to Jordan. All US options in Syria are the bad ones.

General Dempsey Again Warns on Syria War

August 13, 2013 – 11:08 AM ET
http://www.thenation.com/blog/175729/general-dempsey-again-warns-syria-war#

General Martin Dempsey is at it again. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is traveling in the Middle East, seemingly making it clear that he doesn’t want any part of the war in Syria. As I reported a while back, in a letter to members of Congress Dempsey had earlier warned that all of the options open to the United States in the Syrian civil war are bad ones. At that time, Dempsey drew fire from hawks and from advocates who want more and stronger direct U.S. involvement in the Syrian war.

Now, it appears that both Dempsey and the Obama administration are concerned about the Syrian war spreading into Jordan. In the past, the United States has used Jordan as a launching pad for CIA-trained rebels fighting the government of President Bashar al-Assad. But the rebellion in Syria is boomeranging, or “blowing back,” as these things usually do.

Following reports that Syrian rebels, especially the radical Islamists, are trying to spread the conflict into Jordan —particularly ironic, since Jordan is funneling weapons to the anti-Assad fighters—The New York Times reports that Dempsey is concerned over the threat to Jordan:

August 13th, 2013, 12:24 pm

 

ziad said:

USAF Chief of Staff’s “Secret” Visit to Israel?

At least two Israeli news sources reported on Thursday that Gen. Mark A. Welsh III, chief of staff of the US Air Force, recently wrapped up a one week visit to Israel where he was hosted by the chief of the Israel Air Force, Major General Amir Eshel. The visit was supposed to have been secret, according to Walla, the Hebrew language news site that first broke the news of Welsh’s visit. The Jerusalem Post, after independently verifying the story, published a summary of the Walla account in English, with very few details.

Walla claimed the US had asked that Welsh’s visit remain confidential, in light of Israeli threats to strike Iran, noting that the Israeli Air Force has been training for an attack on Iranian nuclear facilities for at least ten years. Algemeiner, a hawkish American Jewish news site, inferred from the Walla report that the purpose of Welsh’s clandestine visit was to coordinate an attack on Iran by Israel and the US and headlined its story ”Head of U.S. Air Force Secretly Visited Israel to Discuss Iran Strike”. The revelation of Welsh’s stealthy Israel trip was also picked up by Press TV, a state-run Iranian news site.

Both Walla and the Jerusalem Post noted that Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, will be arriving in Israel on Monday as the guest of Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Chief of General Staff, Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz. The two are “expected to discuss developments in Iran, Syria and Egypt with Israeli leaders.” The JP suggested that Dempsey might use his visit as an opportunity to discern “Israeli intentions”, convince Israel to “refrain from dramatic decisions” and accord diplomacy a chance to succeed with Iran’s newly inaugurated President Hassan Rouhani.

http://www.lobelog.com/usaf-chief-of-staffs-secret-visit-to-israel/

August 13th, 2013, 12:38 pm

 

revenire said:

Glad to see some sanity in Washington. Dempsey has long been against intervening in Syria.

August 13th, 2013, 12:39 pm

 

ziad said:

A dying Syrian soldier says farewell to his family

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August 13th, 2013, 12:45 pm

 

ziad said:

Siniora’s National Defense Strategy for Lebanon: Give the Enemy a Warning

On the eve of Eid al-Fitr at the end of Ramadan, an Israeli commando force walked into a trap set for it by the Islamic Resistance near the Lebanese village of Alma al-Shaab. Israel swallowed its tongue, while Hezbollah has chosen to remain silent for its own reasons.

As for the official Lebanese reaction, it was limited to contacting the UN forces stationed in southern Lebanon. Political opponents of the Resistance, like Future Party leader Fouad Siniora, however, decided to chime in to denounce the Israeli violation in the strongest of terms, calling it “a dangerous aggression.”

He demanded that “the relevant Lebanese authorities notify the Arab League of this aggression,” asking the UN “to move quickly to deter Israel and give it a warning.” Siniora’s statement is but a reflection of March 14’s understanding of a national defense strategy, which comes down to notifying the Arab League and asking the UN to issue Israel a warning.

Siniora did not even bother to mention the role of the Lebanese army in preventing the breach, because that would raise the issue of equipping the military to sufficiently deter a powerful enemy like Israel – something that is completely outside the vocabulary of March 14, who wants the army to disarm Hezbollah but not take its place in defending the country.

As for notifying the Arab League, one has to ask whether the regional organization is even prepared to receive a complaint against Israel, much less do anything about it.

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/siniora%E2%80%99s-national-defense-strategy-lebanon-give-enemy-warning

August 13th, 2013, 12:49 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Dear Omen

I didn’t mean to suggest you were questioning Yalla Souriya’s reliability..LOL. 🙂 Not that there would be a problem if you did so. Although I addressed yourself, as we exchanged comments on the reports previously, my comment was actually for the benefit of regimists. Just to cover my back as I will likely cite Yalla Souriya in the future and the regimists will pounce on anything to question the reliability of a source they disagree with.

I hadn’t seen Yalla post for a few days, instead it was a couple of other users. Eventually when she appeared to have resumed posting it turned out it was someone sitting in for her. The real Yalla is very experienced and careful/cautious in her posting.

I just wanted to point it out so people don’t make a judgement on the source based on what a caretaker (substitute) author posted.

Take care.

August 13th, 2013, 2:46 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Tara

There was the story of Assad’s Instagram a few weeks ago. At the time it was mentioned there was a photo(s) of Asma on there. I didn’t visit the Instagram so I don’t know if the (same) photos have been around since then.

I actually saw the image I was referring to on AJE blog posted on 4th August.

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/syrian-first-lady-volunteers-damascus

August 13th, 2013, 2:52 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Omen said:

‘Where’s Matthew?’

I presume he’s having trouble logging in.

Moving on.

I’m in a rush so I’ll post the following and read it later.

Sheikh Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi on Jihad and Syria

Tuesday, 13 Aug, 2013

A leading Islamic scholar speaks on the uses and abuses of the concept of jihad

Often heard but widely misunderstood, the use of the term “jihad” in regards to Syria poses questions that trouble policymakers, scholars and fighters alike

[…]

August 13th, 2013, 3:07 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Was at a Sunni professor’s house and he showed me a video clip showing several rebels fighters pouring gasoline over three Kurds then setting them on fire. Those victims were engulfing in flame screaming and jumping disorientedly. A very horrific and disturbing scene to watch.

No one deserves a death like that. Those rebels are just animals and that is what the SAA is fighting against.

We heard a rumor that there will be an airstrike in Der’aa within 36 hours then US will send in 3000 rebels to attack Damascus. Several weeks ago the spokesperson for FSA made a video claiming the rebels wouod attack Lattakia, Tartous, Homs and Damascus within 72 hours since they had acquired many advanced weapons from backers. Then that person disappeared along with his promise. During Ramadan, the rebels claimed the landscape of the battlefield would completely change and they would deliver victory to “Syrians”.

They did deliver death and destruction to many poor rural Alawite villagers. The despicable thing is that the massacre is described as military advance by the western media. They not only completely lost their journalist professionism and ethic, but also put themselves among those barbaric militants in every moral codes.

August 13th, 2013, 3:19 pm

 

mjabali said:

Uzair (Moving on):

I wasted few minutes to read the link you posted to the interview with Sheikh al-Ya’qubi, and it confirmed my ideas: al-Ya’qubi is lost and does not know what year he lives in. We live in the 21st Century in case you, or al-Ya’qubi forgot.

What did he mean by forming a “registry” for the international Jihadists?

I know he wants to conquer the world and make them all Muslims according to his own vision as you could tell. Let us not forget about this expansionist policy.

I know that al-Ya’qubi is not kidding and see the flock of international Jihadists in Syria as the spearhead to conquer the world.

The funniest (actually it could be seen as tragic) part was when he spoke about the rules and regulation of Jihad. I asked you, Uzair, is the tweet by Dr. Shafi al-Ajami of Kuwait abiding the rules and regulations of Jihad? Of course you danced around the topic and never answered. I am not surprised because, although you speak with the Ummah logic, you have no real knowledge of Islam.

When Shafi al-Ajami discussed in his infamous tweets the rules how to rape the Alawite women and how to clean their vaginas: he was truly reflecting what are these rules and regulations are.

August 13th, 2013, 3:47 pm

 

Syrian said:

“Hardly a massacre”Another bankrupted soul spewing his venom, claiming that massacres that happened to Sunnis by Iraqi Shia in 2008 to massacres happens by The FSA against Kurds in Syria 2013
+++18
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVEYuWZjtxw

??? ?? ??????? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ??? 2008
http://www.alboraq.info/showthread.php?t=41024

August 13th, 2013, 4:00 pm

 

zoo said:

The Syria government invites the refugees to come back to “decent” accomodations and re-iterate that any “viable agreement to settle the crisis” in Geneva must be signed by Bashar Al Assad, while the fight against terrorists will continue

Syria PM calls on refugees to return home
13/08/2013

DAMASCUS, Aug 13 (KUNA) — Syrian Prime Minister Wael Al-Halqi on Tuesday called on the Syrians displaced by the ongoing conflict to come back home.
“Syria can accommodate all her sons and will emerge stronger from the crisis,” he said during a cabinet meeting chaired by him.
“The government is ready to welcome with open arms all refugees and provide them with decent accommodation,” Al-Halaqi said, citing the legal and security guarantees recently adopted by his government for the displaced people.

“The government is ready also to go to the Geneva II Conference provided that the planned dialogue be among the Syrians themselves,” the state-run SANA news agency quoted Al-Za’bi as saying during a meeting in the western city of Tartus.
The minister affirmed that any viable agreement to settle the crisis must be signed by President Bashar Al-Assad.
He added that the quest for political solution must go in parallel with the combat against terrorism, noting that dialogue is possible only with those who lay down their arms.

August 13th, 2013, 4:25 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

‘Syria PM calls on refugees to return home’

Why doesn’t he call on them and tell them in person and also check up on their situation while he’s there? Surely the decent thing to do? He knows they’ll beat the living day lights out of him.

August 13th, 2013, 4:34 pm

 

zoo said:

222. apple_mini

Selim Idriss, by appearing in the Latakia area just after the massacre of 60 women and children occurred, has totally discredited himself. In addition by claiming that this was a “victory” he was proud of, he admitted to be a direct accomplice to the crime. He is burnt and will soon join the scories of the ‘revolution’ Ghaliun, Khatib, Saida and the clique of greedy expats that thought they could fool the Syrians with their claim for ‘democracy’ a la GCC.

August 13th, 2013, 4:36 pm

 

mjabali said:

Uzair the dancer:

You are dancing around my question and sticking your nose in internal Syrian affairs.

The question I asked you is related to your Ummah and Jihad since you posted a link discussing Jihad.

keep on dancing around the real issues.

August 13th, 2013, 4:46 pm

 

mjabali said:

Mr. ??????

Here is a link to al-Jazeera video in which we find the following:

A Libyan is holding Alawite women and children as hostages in their own villages and invoking Allah.

Also: notice the videographer al-Jazeera hired in Syria….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhYf4rYPJdw

If holding these children is not a war crime what is, oh I forgot, Allah told these Jihadis to do this.

Did Salim Edris visit these hostages?

Where is Obama: playing basketball?

August 13th, 2013, 4:52 pm

 

mjabali said:

?????????

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August 13th, 2013, 4:53 pm

 

Tara said:

Uzair@226

Thanks for the link. I am sure you made the day for some on SC.

I regard to # 226, had the first lady from Hell ever thought of visiting Zaatari refugee camp and cooking for the refugees or her humanity is a limited one?

August 13th, 2013, 4:54 pm

 

sf94123 said:

Why don’t the Sunnis refugees go back to the liberated Syria under the control of Taliban/FSA so they can live in peace and dignity? Islamists/throat cutters claim that they liberated 70% of Syria – What is the problem! DO NOT take them back to any other parts of Syria, no one wants them there- They will bring back, hide and support islamists and mercenaries in few months- can not be trusted!

August 13th, 2013, 5:25 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Mjabali

I don’t know what you’re asking of me. I’ve already said I condemn any outrageous stuff. If what you say is true about what’s-his-name then I don’t hesitate in rejecting it and condemning it outright. I find those words you claimed that he said repulsive and nauseating. No surprise I don’t want to delve on them.

‘…sticking your nose in internal Syrian affairs.’

It seems this is the crux of the matter. You’ve abstained from going down this line since moderation resumed. I’ve sensed you’ve been holding back. Now you’ve sensed the absence of the moderator you can’t help it. I’ve been expecting this and a few times recently as I ratcheted up my narrative I was anticipating something from yourself and was ready to give you a piece of my mind as I wasn’t putting up with anymore of it.

Be honest, You can’t and won’t pin anything on me no matter how you try? My conscience is clear. What’s riling you is my undoing of regime propaganda and portraying a picture of growing rebel momentum. You’re feeling insecure particularly with the move on Latakia. That’s understandable. I had to do what I had to do to counter the regime line and for the sake of the syrian people. If you found fault you would have showed me or better still brought it to the attention of the moderator.

In the absence of anything substantial you have only the

‘..sticking your nose in internal Syrian affairs.’

card.

I didn’t want to sound harsh but I don’t know what I’ve done wrong.

As for your question or the Jihad related link, well the link speaks for itself. I’m not a scholar and I rely on Shaykh Yaqoubi. If you find fault with the Shaykh then refute his statements.

I don’t get it. The Shaykh’s views are moderate and balanced. You reject the extremists and you also reject the moderates? What do you disagree with the Shaykh on? All you say is he is lost.

August 13th, 2013, 5:38 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Any way. It’s a good time to stop for now as I intended last night.

I’ll be back if I feel the lies and falsehood or the regime are gaining the upperhand. In Sha Allah. Not that the revolution needs me.

August 13th, 2013, 5:50 pm

 

revenire said:

“The Shaykh’s views are moderate and balanced.”

Calling for NATO to attack Syria, potentially murder millions of innocent Syrians in the process, and perhaps start World War III can hardly be described as “moderate and balanced”. I’d call Yaqoubi’s views extreme and unbalanced.

August 13th, 2013, 5:58 pm

 

don said:

You’re too kind Revenire

235. revenire said: .. I’d call Yaqoubi’s views extreme and unbalanced.

August 13th, 2013, 6:30 pm

 

Tara said:

Read FSA activities and enjoy!

Local Coordination Committees in Syria
By the end of Tuesday, the coordination committees were able to document 99 martyrs, among them 9 children, 4 women, and 2 martyrs under torture: 28 martyrs were reported in Hama; 18 in Damascus and its suburbs; 13 in Deir Ezzor; 12 in Idlib; 11 in Daraa; 11 in Aleppo; 4 in Homs; 1 in Lattakia; and 1 in Raqqa

Moreover, the committees have documented 423 points of shelling in Syria: Air strikes by warplanes were recorded in 44 points, explosive barrels were dropped in Al-Bab in Aleppo and Esterbe and Dourin in Lattakia, 4 surface-to-surface missiles were documented, 3 have targeted Jard Talfita in Damascus Suburbs and 1 in Lajah in Daraa, phosphoric bombs have targeted Shehil in Deir Ezzor, and cluster bombs were also documented in Houla in Homs, rocket shelling was recorded in 142 points, followed by artillery shelling in 127 points, and mortar shelling was recorded in 102 points across Syria.

The FSA has clashed with regime forces in 157 points through which in Damascus and its suburbs, it targeted the tank park nearby Abbasiyeen Garage in Qaboun neighborhood, and targeted a regime forces’ site with mortar shells in Jobar neighborhood, the FSA has also targeted the Vehicles’ Management in Harasta in Damascus Suburbs, and targeted regime forces’ sites in Bilalieh in Damascus Suburbs, as well as targeted regime forces’ sites in Ahmadieh in Damascus Suburbs. In Deir Ezzor, the FSA was able to liberate Moumayazoun School’s checkpoint, which is the last regime forces’ center in Hweiqa neighborhood and killed a number of its soldiers and declared the full liberation of the neighborhood, as well as targeted ammunition depots and the Military Petrol Station in Deir Ezzor Military Airport and scored direct assaults, and targeted Tahtouh neighborhood which is considered as a regime forces’ site with dozens of shells. In Hama, the FSA has targeted a military convoy at Harir road between Khanaser and Athariya and killed a number of regime forces as well as destroyed a number of vehicles and a cannon 23 and disabled a T-72 tank, the FSA has also targeted a regime forces’ checkpoint at Salamiyeh-Raqqa highway. In Lattakia, the FSA has targeted Nabi Younis summit. In Aleppo, the FSA has targeted regime’s snipers in the Scientific Researches’ Building and targeted regime forces’ sites in the Civil Defense and Mahlab Barrack. In Idlib, the FSA has targeted Qermid Camp and targeted regime forces’ sites at Ariha Bridge. In Daraa, the FSA has targeted Nusaib’s Bordering Center and liberated 5 bordering points. In addition, the FSA was able to destroy a number of machineries and armored vehicles in different areas of Syria.

August 13th, 2013, 7:50 pm

 

mjabali said:

Uzair:

I do not know if you are following what is going on in Syria:

Foreigners messed up Syria…they always do …You can go through history and learn.

You speak of the Ummah here and there….I know for a fact that this means that Syria has no place in your Ummah map, so whom are you fooling here?

I do not buy your logic because there are enough Syrians doing what you claim you are trying to do.

seriously: how are you helping the Syrian crisis? By quoting Yalla Syria or al-Jazeera live…please respect our minds…

If you want to help Syria wish peace and no blood shed and not be happy and having orgasms with your momentum.

As for my hometown of Lattakia: You as a foreigner who has no clue about the fabric of the city: leave us alone.

I know you would have an orgasm if the International Sunni Jihadis bombed Lattakia. You think it is all Alawis…..

August 13th, 2013, 8:34 pm

 

zoo said:

The Islamists of ISIS have used this strategy to invade Menegh airport: They send a suicide bomber with a huge charge of explosive in a truck and once it explodes they launch their attacks. Then their slaves, the FSA claimed victory.
This time this strategy used in Salamiya failed and the ISIS Chief commander as well as 30 rebels fighters were killed. A great victory of the SAA against Al Qaeda.

Syria: chief of Al-Qaeda-linked group reported killed
Head of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria group alleged killed in fighting near Hama on Sunday

http://www.aawsat.net/2013/08/article55313503

Beirut, Asharq Al-Awsat—The commander of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), a major Islamist opposition group fighting the government of Bashar Al-Assad, was killed in the city of Salamiyah near Hama during a failed attack the rebel group launched against government forces on Sunday, Asharq Al-Awsat has learnt.

A member of the Syrian opposition, speaking to Asharq Al-Awsat on condition of anonymity, said: “Imad Ahmad, a Palestinian national, the commander-in-chief of the ISIS, was killed last Sunday in the eastern suburbs of Hama.”

Although the source did not know “exactly the injury that caused his death,” he said Ahmad “was certainly killed in an attack against a regime battalion in a village near the city of Salamiyah.”

An activist from the city of Salamiyah told Asharq Al-Awsat that if the source is correct, Ahmad was probably killed in a “major attack the ISIS carried out on Sunday against a military point near Salamiyah called Zor Al-Sos on the day the city was bombarded [by the regime.]”

“[ISIS] carried out a suicide attack against a regime checkpoint but the operation failed because the car bomb went off in the wrong place,” he said.

“After the suicide explosion immediately ISIS elements rushed thinking the explosion was successful but the operation completely failed and we were assured that more than 30 elements from the ISIS were killed due to the mistake,” he added.

August 13th, 2013, 9:39 pm

 

zoo said:

The FSA fighters are in the back line. All the assaults are done by Al Nusra and ISIS fighters. Then the FSA fighters come after to claim victory, loot and for the photo-op.

With its collusion with the Islamists, the massacres and the war crimes they are committing regularly, the FSA has become a liability for the opposition.
This is why Jarba has announced the formation of 6000 National Army to replace it ahead of the imminent SNC acceptance to participate in the Geneva conference .

August 13th, 2013, 9:55 pm

 

don said:

Israel seizes Syrian shepherd in Lebanon: source

A Lebanese security source said that Israel had crossed the Blue Line into Lebanese territory on Tuesday and seized a displaced Syrian shepherd.

The source told Xinhua that the 30-year-old Syrian shepherd was herding his cattle, when an Israeli commando unit advanced about 100 meters inside Lebanese territory and “kidnapped” him.

The shepherd, identified as Mohammed Badawi, was from Syria’s Beit Jen region. After fleeing from his war-torn country, Badawi took shelter in Shebaa Farms about a year ago and worked as shepherd ever since.

His relatives called on the United Nations Disengagement Force (UNFOD) observing the ceasefire between Israel and Syria in the Golan Heights to secure his release, as the kidnapping occurred in the UNDOF area of operations.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/803746.shtml

August 13th, 2013, 10:14 pm

 

don said:

Syrian forces kill 18 rebels in clash over highway

President Bashar Assad’s forces killed at least 18 rebels in central Syria in clashes near the country’s main north-south highway, activists said Tuesday.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights in Britain said the fighting took place overnight in Hama province near the town of Morek, which straddles the major road that links the capital, Damascus, with the largely rebel-held northern provinces.

http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/Syrian-forces-kill-18-rebels-in-clash-over-highway-4730247.php

August 13th, 2013, 10:38 pm

 

revenire said:

FSA is a joke of an army. Always was.

August 13th, 2013, 10:47 pm

 

don said:

JARAMANA

“They came to Syria to do jihad,” said one distraught resident, whose in-law was among 10 killed in the July 25 blast. “Pardon me, but why don’t they go to Israel to do their jihad?”

A black-and-white funeral poster announced the death of a Christian woman, Helweh Hanna, mother of three. She happened to be passing by when the bomb went off July 25, residents said.

The prevalent view among many interviewed here is that the various rebel brigades are working in concert with the West, Turkey and Persian Gulf nations to destroy what little peace remains in this traumatized nation.

“May God destroy their hands,” one disgusted woman said of the anonymous bombers, as she and a friend surveyed a devastated row of shops — including a tire repair spot, a butcher and a vegetable stand — across the street from Alaa’s falafel place. “How can we feel safe anymore?” asked the woman, who, like others interviewed, declined to give her name for security reasons.

“Jaramana will never be a hospitable atmosphere for the armed groups,” said Father Gabriel Daoud, a Syriac Orthodox Christian priest in the area. “They know that if they come here they will perish.”

“How can we provide 100% security, with so many new people fleeing the war coming to live here?” asked Sheik Abul-Latif Kurbaj, a Druze elder in Jaramana, interviewed in his second-floor office above a vegetable shop. “The armed groups have sentenced the people of Jaramana to death.”

“Our young men are ready to defend our homes, in concert with our Christian brothers,” said Kurbaj, a short, stout man wearing traditional baggy trousers and given to lengthy digressions on Druze history and culture. “We want change and democracy and an end to corruption. We have called for these changes for a long time. But we don’t agree with destroying the country.”

Some residents cannot hold back their fury at the U.S. government, which many in Jaramana see as backing groups targeting civilians. Some stressed that the violence only bolstered their support for Assad, a sentiment commonly expressed in pro-government districts.

“I pray a hundred times a day that America will experience the terror that we are experiencing!” shouted an enraged owner of a women’s clothing boutique, situated across the street from the site where a mortar shell, presumably fired by rebels, struck July 25, the same day as the car bombing, killing three passersby. “We are in great pain. We are dying 100 deaths a day in Syria now.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-violence-jaramana-20130814,0,5386291.story?page=2

August 13th, 2013, 10:58 pm

 

don said:

Always will be

243. revenire said: .. FSA is a joke of an army. Always was.

August 13th, 2013, 11:03 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

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August 13th, 2013, 11:28 pm

 

don said:

Turkey Reconsiders Support For Jabhat Al-Nusra

Turkey had cricized as “premature” the US designation of al-Nusra as a terrorist organization in December 2012, given the advances the group appeared to be securing for the Syrian opposition at the time. During a visit to Washington in January, Turkish Foreign Undersecretary Feridun Sinirlioglu reportedly told his American interlocutors that “it was more important to focus on the ‘chaos’ that Assad has created instead of groups such as al-Nusra.”

Asked about alleged Turkish support for radical Islamist groups, including al-Nusra, Davutoglu angrily denied it, saying that such groups were doing “as much harm to the just cause of the Syrian opposition as the regime was.” He said he considered this to be a “betrayal of the Syrian revolution.”

Other developments — such as the July 27 car bomb attack against a Turkish diplomatic post in Mogadishu, the Somali capital — are also making more people question Turkey’s flirtation with radical Islamist groups and its involvement in seemingly intractable disputes in the Islamic world. That al-Shabab, the militant Islamist group with connections to al-Qaeda, claimed responsibility for the Mogadishu attack has left Islamist supporters of the Erdogan government in Turkey in a quandary. Unable to cope with this fact, some pro-Erdogan papers have gone so far as to claim that the United States was behind the attack, in which six people were killed.

Meanwhile the kidnapping of two Turkish Airlines pilots in Lebanon on Aug. 9, by a group demanding that Turkey secure the release of Lebanese Shiite pilgrims abducted in 2012 by radical elements in the Syrian opposition, is also feeding into Turks’ growing impatience with Ankara’s involvement in Syria.

Whatever the delicate balancing act Erdogan is struggling to maintain in relation to groups like al-Nusra, there is increasing evidence to suggest that the coming period could see more coordination between Turkey and its Western allies, led by the United States, against radical Islamist groups in Syria that have begun to make Ankara’s Syrian headache worse.

http://www.aina.org/news/20130813194543.htm

August 14th, 2013, 12:10 am

 

Mina said:

Ghufran, please don’t stop writing! The kids have been bullying you but pay no attention.
You are the voice of reason here and many people have no time to follow FB and Twitter the whole day, so I really appreciate that you give us what you think is worth reading, even if we all know that about Syria one should wait a few days before knowing the reality of an event.

As for Egypt, here are the MB methods, very easy to understand:
The MB textbook: be very clear when you spread sectarianism and rumours
http://arabist.net/blog/2013/8/12/the-brothers-and-the-copts
but elusive when you “agree” on anything
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/78944/Egypt/Politics-/Egypts-Muslim-Brotherhood-says-open-to-talks-on-cr.aspx

August 14th, 2013, 6:05 am

 

Observer said:

On the one hand DON is posting a story about the people of Jaramana wishing terror on the US for the insecurity that they are suffering.

On the second hand we have Mjabali lamenting the fate of poor villagers in Latakia province while complaining about foreigners being responsible for messing up Syria all the time. Then he asks and I quote
“Where is Obama: playing basketball?”

So this is exactly why Obama does not want to be involved in Syria and with him the vast majority of the US population. The US does not have a bone in this fight. It has left the area to be filled by Turkey, Iran, KSA, and all the other small players.

Mjabali what do you want Obama to do? Do you want him to intervene to help the Alawi population? Do you want him to stop the so called support of the rebels? A support that is absent so far and as a matter of fact the support was denied for Obama knows that he has no way of controlling what and who gets support on the ground. The US can try to build an army after the collapse of a regime but not try to control an insurgency. It got badly burned by its experience in Afghanistan.

The US is vilified no matter what it does for it is the excuse of the day. As a matter of fact my cousin’s divorce is attributed to the CIA or so she says.

Last but not least, foreigners always mess up the region. But the reason why foreigners can intervene in the region is because it was divided by Sykes and Picot specifically to keep it unstable and to permit endless interventions and internal civil wars.

But then again, the people of the region as long as they have accepted to live like they are living and to refuse to either come together or to part their own ways will continue to suffer endlessly.

Some sources tell me that there are 90 000 members of Nusra now. The vast majority are Syrians not foreigners.

Idriss apparently came to try to halt their offensive to no avail. ZOO is right, there is no such thing as FSA there will be the mirror image of the sectarian barbaric regime fighting it to the death and eventually leading to wholesale massacres of various minorities.

40 year war for for 40 year of dictatorship.

August 14th, 2013, 7:59 am

 

apple_mini said:

The traditional roadmap by the opposition is out. I have no idea where those people are living.

In a country where violence and terrorism are raging and escalating, isn’t the priority stopping the violence?

That is simply an impossible mission for the opposition because Islamic militants are the ones who are calling the shots.

The opposition are simply trying to come up some “plans” and “blueprints” in order to make themselves look legitimate. Here is something considered legitimate to all Syrians: whoever can stop the violence now will be the legitimate leader of the country.

The opposition is truly a self-absorbed phantom who is no more than a paper weight on negotiation table.

We are expecting more dramas from the opposition.

August 14th, 2013, 8:02 am

 

apple_mini said:

For all the suffering and fears which are gripping people in Jaramana, they vent their anger against the parties and countries who are backing those terrorist attackers and wish them would suffer the same what people in Jaramana are experiencing.

Our opposition member on SC ignores the agony and loss of residences in Jaramana and picks up their complaints as veiled terrorist threats.

How could Syrians not adore those revolutionists?

Nowadays you need about an hour and half to get through the check points in Jaramana if you are driving. We just hope residents in Jaramana can have a little more peace and safety.

PS Jaramana has been becoming more mixed with diversified population.

August 14th, 2013, 8:17 am

 

Tara said:

Apple,

Any new lie today?

Yesterday was the opposition burning Kurds, the day before was something else, the day before that was the economic boom in Syria and the people pouring on Zara to buy designer cloths waiting in line 20 min to be rung, and many more…

We got used to one lie a day. Please don’t deprive us.

August 14th, 2013, 8:21 am

 

Mina said:

I fail to understand how the people who kill civilians on a daily basis in Iraq manage to get more recruits through their posts of “heroic deeds” on FB. Just reading the litany of bombings in Iraq every day, and see the same plan being applied in Syria, make me really wonder how it can be so attractive for some people that they travel from far away countries to get blown up somewhere in a crowd of civilians.

August 14th, 2013, 8:26 am

 

mjabali said:

Observer:

Obama met with Idris recently, so what did they discuss? Attacking the Alwite civilians and taking the kids hostages?

Did Idris tell Obama about this plan to attack?

Or did he tell Obama about the Sunni al-Qaeda members participating in the attack?

Did you see the Libyan speaking with all of these hostages behind him? did Obama’s planners see this?

This is a fiasco however you turn it.

The video that shows all of these children as hostages: what do you really think of this. Having 50 children or more under the age of ten as hostages is really a bad look for the US and what it is trying to spread all over the world.

When Obama and his planners support Idris and Mustafa al-Sabagh, who attack civilians here we have a classic case of a war crime supported by none other than the Obama administration.

These children hostages, and their mothers as well as the old men taking hostages should be let go, that is what Obama could do.

Obama could pressure his bodies to release these hostages. This is the least he could do.

I hope you were not happy like Tara and Majed with all of this ….

August 14th, 2013, 8:30 am

 

revenire said:

Happy Hump Day!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RZ3v9s1P0w0
Iraqi Abu Fadhl Brigade Training & Song Against FSA Rebels

August 14th, 2013, 9:07 am

 

apple_mini said:

I’m glad my post of the rebels burning Kurds alive generating outcry from the opposition posters here.

On the propaganda front, the opposition and its mouthpieces have never ceased to fabricate lies from the very beginning: Gay girl in Damascus, massacre pictures from Iraq, flower bouquet in rebels’ gun barrel. Let alone those brazen accusations. I remembered after the very first twin explosion in Damascus, the opposition speaker was on PBS accusing the regime had plotted it, the anchor did not even bother to ask why the regime would have killed its own people on its own turf.

Right here on SC, the opposition mouthpieces accused the regime being responsible for shelling town Salamia. Utter shamefully, they even demanded an apology from the poster who only stated the truth.

I think we should use every means to expose the malicious and hypocritical nature of the opposition. Let’s spice up the counter punch.

August 14th, 2013, 9:07 am

 

Tara said:

Apple,

It is not outcry. It is disgust.

Liars have no shame. A decent person would have retracted and apologized when shown their fabrication. You did not. I am not surprised.

August 14th, 2013, 9:29 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Obama met with Idris recently, so what did they discuss?

Mjabali,

– When did Obama meet with Gen. Idris? Wasn’t it McCain?
– What do you have against Gen. Idris?
– Do you prefer Obama meet with Assad?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salim_Idris

August 14th, 2013, 9:30 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Mjabali
Obama did not meet Idris
Holding women and children hostage is less evil than killing them as your Assad idol has done and you never condemned ,

Apple
you are denying the truth as usual and you have no credibility and what you say is not only nonsense, it is pure lies

August 14th, 2013, 9:47 am

 

zoo said:

Another ‘victory’ over the heretics for the Islamist allies to the FSA. Selim Idriss and Jarba and the whole SNC mafia must be really proud and grateful to their helpful friends

Al Qaeda-linked Syrian rebels kill Italian priest, says rights group
By: Reuters Published on Wed Aug 14 2013

BEIRUT- Al-Qaeda-linked rebels in Syria have killed an Italian Jesuit priest who disappeared in the east of the country late last month, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

Paolo Dall’Oglio, a vocal supporter of the uprising against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and some Islamist rebel groups, disappeared in the rebel-held city of Raqqa on July 29.

August 14th, 2013, 9:48 am

 

zoo said:

#260 Majed

“Holding women and children hostage is less evil than killing them”

Raping, torturing women and children is a lesser evil. Brilliant as usual.

August 14th, 2013, 9:50 am

 

Mina said:

“Torture in the name of Shari’a” on Kuwait TV.
Good news: they have banned the show

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/kuwaiti-sheikhs-show-banned-after-calling-torture-pro-assad-fighters

August 14th, 2013, 9:54 am

 

zoo said:

The FSA’s weapons: Rumors, car bombs and random mortars on Damascus
Syrian President’s house not attacked

Published August 14th, 2013 – 13:26 GMT via SyndiGate.infoNA
http://www.albawaba.com/news/syrian-presidents-house-not-attacked-513587

BEIRUT: President Bashar Assad’s office denied Wednesday reports that the Syrian leader’s residence in Damascus had been the target of an attack, SANA reported.

SANA quoted the media office of the Syrian presidency as saying “all reports on some media outlets on the targeting of the house of President Bashar Assad in Damascus are completely false.”

Several media outlets earlier reported that Assad’s house in the neighborhood of al-Maliki had been targeted.

The reports also said the Iranian and Russian embassies in Damascus had also been targeted.

August 14th, 2013, 9:55 am

 

revenire said:

The “revolution generation” murdered one of their own. Assad tried to save this priest’s life.

Syrian rights group says al-Qaeda-linked rebels killed Italian priest
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2013/08/14/Syrian-rights-group-says-rebels-killed-Italian-Jesuit-priest.html

Reuters, Beirut

Al-Qaeda-linked rebels in Syria have killed an Italian Jesuit priest who disappeared in the east of the country late last month, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Wednesday.

The Observatory urged all Syrian opposition forces to pressure the ISIL fighters to reveal exactly what happened to Dall’Oglio “so his killers can be held to account, and to hand over his body for burial.”

August 14th, 2013, 9:57 am

 

revenire said:

Has Assad been overthrown yet?

August 14th, 2013, 10:01 am

 

revenire said:

Maybe they attacked Assad’s house with FSA Air Force planes? Where is Capt. Omen?

August 14th, 2013, 10:02 am

 

Tara said:

Reports that Batta’s house being targeted? Great!

Time for “balance of terror” being inflicted on them as they have shot down all their senses for too long. If they are concerned about the children, will be happy to host them.

August 14th, 2013, 10:19 am

 

zoo said:

There doesn’t seem to be a any road or any map to in the SNC’s “road map” to get out the stalemate. It is only a post-Assad political plan, under the wishful assumption that the opposition will take over the power in a post-Assad era.

Syrian opposition to release plan for post-Assad Syria
Istanbul meeting expected to see release of “Plan for Democratic Change in Syria”
http://www.aawsat.net/2013/08/article55313559

The director of the Syrian Center for Political and Strategic Studies, Radwan Ziadeh, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “after repeated accusations that the Syrian opposition does not have a vision for the phase after the downfall of [Syrian president] Bashar Al-Assad, we are offering today, for the first time, an integrated vision for a democratic future after the revolution.”

August 14th, 2013, 10:28 am

 

Sami said:

Apple “I just witnessed Hardly a Massacre” Mini,

“I’m glad my post of the rebels burning Kurds alive generating outcry from the opposition posters here’

Written like a true Assadists, even after being caught in the lie he continues with it hoping somehow his lie would stick…

“On the propaganda front, the opposition and its mouthpieces have never ceased to fabricate lies from the very beginning”

Kind of ironic lambasting propaganda when you just got caught with your pants down regurgitating propaganda…

“I think we should use every means to expose the malicious and hypocritical nature of the opposition. Let’s spice up the counter punch.”

First of who is we? Is it you and your filthy pal’s at the Jawiyeh taking names? Have you added my name to your pathetic list yet? Need my Jadeh number? hate to have the wrong Sami arrested…

As for the exposing part, I for one rather enjoy your foolish posts that expose you for the cheap propogandist that you are. It really takes no effort for anyone rejecting the barbarianism known as Assad to deduce that your nothing but a mouth piece, and a horribly and hopelessly bad one at that.

I await your next economics lesson, I rather enjoyed the new measuring unit that has replaced GDP and GNP as a means to judge the standard of living, the ZCL (Zara Checkout Line), I am sure economists worldwide have been floored by this wonderful breakthrough…

August 14th, 2013, 10:37 am

 

revenire said:

Sami it’s war – war with guns and war with words.

I am seeing rumors that Father Paolo was beheaded. I have no proof.

August 14th, 2013, 10:43 am

 

zoo said:

Revenire

Now that his house is ‘attacked’ maybe Bashar al Assad should follow Joshua Landis’s advice and move to a Russian ship.

The deadline of Geneva of October is getting closer and the opposition and their main ally Saudi Arabia are getting fidgety as the SNC will be forced to participate while Bashar Al Assad is still in power. That would be a huge humiliation after they have hammered for 2 years they won’t attend unless he resigns.
They have tried all they could but they have not been able to force the president to resign. In order to avoid a humiliating defeat, the aim of the furious Saudis is to use all its means to kill Bashar Al Assad before the conference.
They do not care if the country will fall into a worse chaos, they want their Arab “bedouin” pride to be saved and win.

August 14th, 2013, 10:47 am

 

don said:

Lawyer fears 400 surface-to-air missiles from Libya may be used to attack

Joe DiGenova, a lawyer representing Benghazi whistle-blowers, said Monday that 400 surface-to-air missiles were taken from Libya during the 2012 terror attack, and the American intelligence community is terrified…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4LKoZmMfZE

A former U.S. attorney, Joe DiGenova, who is representing a Benghazi whistleblower, told a Washington, D.C., radio station on Monday that 400 surface-to-air missiles were “stolen” in Libya and given to some “very ugly people,” aka al-Qaeda, and that the biggest fear in the U.S. intelligence community is that one of these missiles will be used to shoot down an airliner.”

The CIA had sent the missiles to Syrian “rebels” who are supported by the CIA and funded by the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar in an effort to overthrow the al-Assad government. Turkey has permitted the mercenaries to establish bases in its country on the border with Syria.

“It turns out that when you dig deep enough through all of the mainstream media mud, you can start to make sense of things.”

“Even with extremely complex shadow operations like the one we see going on with the Syrian rebels, who are being backed by the Obama administration in what the media pretends is a completely acceptable act of support. In fact, the story now coming from intelligence insiders is that Benghazi was a smokescreen event in order to shuffle in thousands of missiles to the Syrian rebels.”

The Benghazi story was pushed to the forefront of the establishment media spotlight on August 1 when CNN reported that “dozens of people working for the CIA were on the ground that night, and that the agency is going to great lengths to make sure whatever it was doing, remains a secret. CNN has learned the CIA is involved in what one source calls an unprecedented attempt to keep the spy agency’s Benghazi secrets from ever leaking out.”

CNN continued:

Speculation on Capitol Hill has included the possibility the U.S. agencies operating in Benghazi were secretly helping to move surface-to-air missiles out of Libya, through Turkey, and into the hands of Syrian rebels.

It is clear that two U.S. agencies were operating in Benghazi, one was the State Department, and the other was the CIA.

August 14th, 2013, 10:54 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Ali Kayyali is the most criminal shabbih, he will be killed

Revenir, Bashar is injured , what would you do when Your idol joins the rodents underground? soon in shaa allah

August 14th, 2013, 10:56 am

 

mjabali said:

Majedkhaldoun:

If al-Assad killed women and children then it is a war crime, there no question about that.

I never stood for anything but peace from day one of this bloody fiasco. You seem to forget this, on the other hand, you call for death for Alawites and Shia across the board, almost everyday.

If you think like me Syria would have been saved. Plain and simple.

I have been saying this from day one: Peaceful political solutions are the way to go. Revenge and bringing foreigners to fight your war is not the answer.

I know that you are happy to see that Libyan holding these Alawites Syrian women and children in Syria and invoking Allah. Dude, leave Allah alone out of this bloody fight, you are tarnishing his name with your bloody revenge.

August 14th, 2013, 10:57 am

 

zoo said:

Paolo Della’ Oglio was executed in prison by the FSA’s and Turkey’s friends and allies. It is a devastating warning to the opposition that its close association with Islamists is now a liability and must end now at any cost.
It also served as an example of the price to pay for a member of a minority to attempt to befriend Islamists.
>

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/499085/20130814/jesuit-father-paolo-dall-oglio-death-confirmed.htm

“Activists in the city, and who are close to Father Paolo, have confirmed to the SOHR that Italian Jesuit priest and the messenger of peace Father Paolo Dall’Oglio has been killed while in the prisons of the ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Levante], where he has been held for over two weeks,” the SOHR said.

“The Syrian Observatory strongly urges all sides of the Syrian opposition to put pressure on the ISIS to uncover the fate of Father Paolo Dall’Oglio, and if it is the case to give his body so that he can be buried in the traditions of his church and family.

August 14th, 2013, 11:01 am

 

mjabali said:

Mina:

Shafi al-Ajami has the title of a Doctor. hahaaaaahaaa comparing him to the doctors on this board like Majed and Tara is necessary.

Shafi al-Ajami has a quarter million followers on Tweeter. He has been spewing his venom for a long time. AS a matter of fact he has been bragging about financing attacks against Alawites and Shia in Syria.

There is a picture of his cousin holding a Shia child that he later put the knife to his neck in Hatla, near Deir al-Zur.

Shafi al-Ajami is a war criminal and the Kuwaiti government banned him after his rotten smell started coming out. Before that he was saying the same things. Probably the Kuwaiti rulers were having an orgasm with his speeches. How can a government like the Kuwaiti government let a criminal like this speak, and not only that, have a TV show.

This SOB should stand in front of an international court along with anyone who committed any crime in Syria.

As you can see, Sunni Islam is in big trouble. If you ask, our resident doctors on this board, they would say that Islam is going to CONQUER the world.

August 14th, 2013, 11:07 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Russia Putin was quoted that he will accept Bashar to leave if Manaf Tlass is replacing him

August 14th, 2013, 11:19 am

 

mjabali said:

Tara:

You supported an attack on the Syrian Alawite civilians. The same way your grandfather was issuing Fatwas for his relatives the Turks to attack and loot the Alawi land.

How many Fatwas did your grandfather issue against the Alawis?

The great thing is that the break in order in Syria is bringing out all of these books that detail how you Sunnis behaved. Care to read one of them or you busy searching for pictures of Asma al-Assad?

You are happy that these Alawite children are being held against their will. You live in America or Afghanistan?

You are happy that these Alawite women are held hostages, and most likely raped, or about to be raped. What year do you live in, 610 AD?

I asked you before about Shafi al-Ajami tween in which he is discussing the rape of these women and you went silent and asked your boy Uzair for a picture of Asma al-Assad’s birthday party.

What balance of terror are you talking about? You seem not to know Syria and al-Assad. Today, yesterday and the day before al-Assad forces torched Salma and Doreen, two Sunni villages in Jabal al-Akrad in retaliation for that attack.

Do you really care about these Sunni Civilians? I guess not. You are deep into your hatred and jealousy from Asma al-Assad.

By the way, I expect this from you. Deep imbedded hatred towards the Alawites for the mere fact that you came from a Sunni Sheikhs family, that came to Syria with the Ottoman invasion. They gave you this with your milk as a child.

August 14th, 2013, 11:30 am

 

don said:

Nope. Morssi the islamist monster was.

265. revenire said: .. Has Assad been overthrown yet?

August 14th, 2013, 11:34 am

 

ghufran said:

According to SOHR, father Paolo is dead and the killers are the ISIS animals, which some of you overtly or covertly support, I can not wait for the terrorists apologists to start applying makeup on this pig, Nusra and ISIS.
Most of what I see on this blog now especially from the anti regime camp, as noble as opposing this regime is, is kids play and material not worth reading, and that is a reflection of how rage and desire for revenge dominate the minds of many Syrians today, this mentality will make it harder for the war to stop.

August 14th, 2013, 11:37 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Mjabali
Why don’t you study about Zahiri Mazhab, Zahiri does not accept fatwa by anyone, it follows Quraan and VERIFIED Hadith only
So please spare us the nonsense about fatwas

August 14th, 2013, 11:49 am

 

revenire said:

“277. MAJEDKHALDOUN said:
Russia Putin was quoted that he will accept Bashar to leave if Manaf Tlass is replacing him”

LOL

August 14th, 2013, 11:51 am

 

don said:

majedkhaldoun always on the money

115. majedkhaldoun said: .. ????? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ??????

Egypt bloodshed: At least 95 killed as troops clear pro-Morsi camps

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/14/20016550-egypt-bloodshed-at-least-149-killed-as-troops-clear-pro-morsi-camps?lite

August 14th, 2013, 11:54 am

 

revenire said:

“Now that his house is ‘attacked’ maybe Bashar al Assad should follow Joshua Landis’s advice and move to a Russian ship.”

Ha ha. With the FSA AIR FORCE hot on the trail.

August 14th, 2013, 11:54 am

 

revenire said:

Don – lol – Majed said about two months ago that soon MILLIONS of Egyptians would be heading to Syria, sent by Morsi. He’s a funny guy!

August 14th, 2013, 12:01 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
You are lier ,unashamed lier, as lier as devil, I never said soon million of Egyptian will join the rebels in Syria I said there is POTENTIAL for Egypt to send up to a million,
If you don’t understand the difference then you are stupid

August 14th, 2013, 12:07 pm

 

don said:

OH NO! hahahahahaha!

Turkey Says UN, Arab League Must Quickly Stop Egypt ‘Massacre’

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-14/turkey-says-un-arab-league-must-quickly-stop-egypt-massacre-.html

August 14th, 2013, 12:23 pm

 

ghufran said:

More from “liberated” Raqqa:
?????? ????? – ?????? ?????? ????? ???????:: ???? ?????? “?????? ????????? ?? ?????? ?????? “??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ??? ???? ??????? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ??? ?????? ??????? ??? ?? ??? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ???????
Both factions suffered heavy losses lately in their war with the Syrian army and now they are fighting each other. There are reports from non government sources that ISIS military leader in Syria (Imad Ahmad) was killed in Hama (by the SA)and that Ahfad Arrasoul ( a funny claim) top militia leader was killed in Raqqa (by ISIS.
From what I heard and read, a larger military assault in Latakia Reef is underway, rebels lost most of the villages they took and are on the run now but I think the army wants to control the whole area and not just take back what was lost, that means trying to take Salma, Kinsabbah and Rabee’aa.
The support the terrorist attacks on poor villagers in reef Latakia received from some of you on this blog make you a sunni copy of your stated alawite enemy, regime shabeehas and sectarian militias, all of the talk about Fadeelah and Assunah al-sharifah from those of you who pretend to be religious proved to be as valuable as claims of virtue by terorirts who cut heads and loot private properties in the name of Allah, I would not spend a minute from now on inhaling the hot air coming from balloons like majed who want to “liberate” Syria from their comfortable homes in the US, however there is still a way for redemption:
stop inciting hatred, send money to the poor and make peace with your fellow Syrian friends in your community, you can still do all of that while opposing the regime and working to change it but not through the terrorists on Nusra and ISIS.

August 14th, 2013, 12:28 pm

 

sf94123 said:

In my book you are a terrorist, criminal and evil Authority should investigate you and revoke your license. You shouldn’t be allowed to practice medicine in the US.

August 14th, 2013, 12:34 pm

 

ghufran said:

to our fellow thawrajyyeh:
please do not send money to terrorists, the FBI is watching, send it to family members, if you still have any in Syria, to help feed the hungry instead of sending money to kill other Sytians:

(Reuters) – A U.S. citizen and a foreign national were charged in federal court in Miami on Tuesday with providing financing and recruits to al Qaeda and other foreign terrorist organizations fighting in Syria and other places.

the men sent close to $ 100,000 to terrorist organizations including Nusra using western union.

August 14th, 2013, 12:47 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed you said it. Doesn’t matter. It went into the same file as your predictions of a No-Fly Zone and Assad being overthrown.

Egypt isn’t going to send a million to fight in Syria. There never was a potential for it. Egyptians have risen up and overthrown the Muslim Brotherhood filth.

August 14th, 2013, 12:50 pm

 

ghufran said:

Al-Baradei resigns:
???? ???? ?????? ?????? ???? ???????? ???????? ?? ???????? ???? ??? ????????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?? ???? ????? ????? ???? ???????? ????????? ???? “???? ???? ???? ?????? ??????? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????? ??????”.
???? ???????? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ????????? ???????: “??? ???? ?? ????? ???? ?? ????? ?? ??? ??????? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ??????? ??? ?????? ???? ??????? ???? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ???? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???????”.
????? ???????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??? ??? ????? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ????????? ????? ??????.
The new leadership in Egypt appointed 18 new governors, half of them are retired generals.

August 14th, 2013, 1:04 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

WWW

August 14th, 2013, 1:07 pm

 

Tara said:

Mjabali,

In regard to your accusation of whether or not I support killing civilians , I don’t. I have already stated this and I refer you back to my reply. Read it again.

I wish I saw you as much inflamed as you are now after the Houla or Banias massacre or even after you saw the headless little girl with white pull ups and blue skirt. You weren’t. I therefore, despite my disapproval, can’t get myself to show you any sorrow or any sympathetic gesture regardless whether or not I feel them.

And please, leave the backward sexist mentality behind, I dislike Asma because of her support of killing 10,000 and displacing millions.

August 14th, 2013, 1:13 pm

 

Tara said:

“Several media outlets earlier reported that Assad’s house in the neighborhood of al-Maliki had been targeted.”

I have not seen a single report to that effect. Albawaba seems to be the only “media outlet” to report that. I believe I have wad a bogus news from Albawaba before. It is a waste of time.

August 14th, 2013, 1:24 pm

 

ghufran said:

According to multiple news sources, the two main squares where MB supporters are stationed are being emptied and a state of emergency has been declared in 13 Egyptian provinces.
notice the hypocrisy of al-Arabiya, a mouth piece for KSA royal family, when it sides with the Egyptian army and throws mud at the MB in Egypt while it spent more than 2 years in a propaganda campaign against the Syrian army and aired many fabricated stories and videos and never cared to make a correction:

Egyptian security forces moved in about 6am local time to clear supporters of ousted President Mohamed Morsi from two areas of Cairo where they have been camped for weeks, demanding his reinstatement. The Muslim Brotherhood claims hundreds have been killed.

(I guess killing supporters of an elected president is justified in alarabiya’s book of ethics, and bombing Sinai is also justified since it is not the Syrian army who is doing the bombing and the killing).
I am not by any means pleased by the bloodshed and the violent response by any side to this dispute but I find it very disturbing that human lives in the arab world is not worth much nowadays and that GCC in both countries , Syria and Egypt, is playing a dirty role and getting away with it.

August 14th, 2013, 1:33 pm

 

ghufran said:

I think I waited long enough to give Mr Jarba the benefit of the doubt but it seems to me that he is just another idiot, Moaz was much better in my judgment:
???? ?????? ??? “???????? ????? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ??????? ????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ??????? ??????? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ????? ???? ??? ?????”.
????? ?????? “????????? ?? ????????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ? ??? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ??????? ??? ?? ???? ??????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? ??????? ??????? ????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ??????? ? ??????????”.
???? ?????? ?? ??????? “???? ???? ???? ????? ????????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ??? ??????? ??? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????? ????? ??? ???? ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ? ?????? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ???? ???????”.
By misrepresenting the facts on the ground, Mr Jarba can not be an effective or trusted leader, I am particularly amazed by his claim that the opposition is united and that the FSA is in the lead !!

August 14th, 2013, 2:22 pm

 

revenire said:

Tara when Assad gets hit you can come here and check with me to see if the news is real. These rebels you’re in love with – the head cutters – lie about everything. I am a man you can trust.

Assad walks around Damascus with few bodyguards. He drives his own car. He is loved by the people. When that changes you will know the Syria we both love is forever gone. Assad is the symbol of the living, beating heart of Syria. Whomever kills Assad kills Syria.

August 14th, 2013, 2:46 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Ghufran
So what bothers you is the fact that Bashar is close to die, it bothers you that the FSA is gaining grounds, it bothers you that your informations are fake and false, what bothers you is the coastal battle where FSA gained more towns today.
Sorry Ghufran you will spend the rest of your life crying, you will not be alone Revenir, Don Zoo sf94123 will be with you, as you will not be able to get back to free Syria, WWW

August 14th, 2013, 2:49 pm

 

revenire said:

Thank God the Egyptian army has moved on the terrorists. If the terrorists could have they’d have destroyed Egypt like they’ve tried to destroy Syria. I hope they arrest every Muslim Brotherhood leader they can. They should outlaw Brothers but that might be hoping for too much.

Gen. Abdel Fattah Al Sisi is Man of the Year in my book. He should get a Nobel prize for this.

August 14th, 2013, 2:51 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed it’s time for your nap. If we believed you the war would be over and the Brothers would be in charge from Morocco to Pakistan.

The only thing your Nusra friends have “won” on the coast is a one way ticket to Hell at the hands of our army.

You’re ridiculous.

August 14th, 2013, 2:54 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

??? ???????? ??????? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ???????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ????????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???? ?????? ???????? ?? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????? ????????. ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ??? ???? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ??????.

?? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???? ???????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ????? ?????. ??? ???? ???????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ???? ????? ????????. ????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ????? ???? ???? ????????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ???? ????? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ????????? ???????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????.

???? ?????? ?? ???? ??? ????????? ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ?????? ?????????. ??? ??? ???? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ????????? ?? ????? ??????? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ???????? ???????.

?? ?????? ????? ??????? ????????? ????????? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ???? ?? ????? ???? ???? ???? ???????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ???????? ???????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ???? ??????? ??????? ?? ???????? ???????. ??? ???? ?? ???? ????? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ??????? ?????? ????? ???????.

???? ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ???????? ????????. ?????? ??? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ??????? ????? ??????? ?????. ??? ???? ?????? ??? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ????????? ????? ?????? ???????? ???????. ??? ?? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ????? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ?????? ????? ??????.

????? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ????????? ????? ????? ?????? ?????????.

August 14th, 2013, 2:56 pm

 

revenire said:

Salafis celebrate the slaughter of a five year old Syrian child.

Kuwaiti Sheikh, al-Ajmi boasts about his cousin slaughtering a Shiite village in Hatla, Syria, including a five year old child.

August 14th, 2013, 3:38 pm

 

sf94123 said:

MAJEDKHALDOUN, Every one including your close friends knows that you sold your soul to the devil and can’t be trusted anymore. On the other hand, It doesn’t matter if Assad was dead or alive- Just an excuse for you and your Nusra friends to spread hate chaos, death and destruction in Syria – Job well-done Dr. Death.

August 14th, 2013, 3:40 pm

 

revenire said:

Dr. Death

August 14th, 2013, 3:50 pm

 

mjabali said:

Tara:

Sexist talk? why because I said that you are obsessed with Asma al-Assad? Do I care about Asma al-Assad: No. I care about how my country Syria is going to hell. I care about how my countrymen are killing each other with ease. I care about the thousand of criminal foreign Jihadis coming to my country fighting in the name of Allah (that goes to all sides).

If you care about women you would have said just ONE nice word regarding these women who are held hostages and most likely raped.

If you care about women you would cared when these foreigners are holding them hostages.

If you cared about women you would spoke one word against the Tweet of Shafi al-Ajami, one of the perpetrators of this ugly attack.

By the way here is another copy of Shafi al-Ajami Tweet and let me see what do you have to say:

Shafi al-Ajami said:

?? ??????? ??? ??? ????? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ???????? ?? ???????? ???? ?????? ??? ??????? ???????

So Tara, as a woman, what do you think of this? do you have the courage to answer this?

August 14th, 2013, 3:54 pm

 

zoo said:

The FSA fighters say goodbye to Raqa

Jihadists push Syria rebels out of Raqa

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/jihadists-push-syria-rebels-raqa-173154952.html#0RFIT9Q
A jihadist group has expelled rebel Free Syrian Army fighters from their positions in the northern city of Raqa, a watchdog reported on Wednesday.

“Fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) have taken control of the positions of the Ahfad al-Rasul brigade in Raqa,” the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

For more than a week, clashes have pitted jihadists against the Ahfad al-Rasul brigade, a part of the mainstream Free Syrian Army, which has the backing of many Western and Arab countries.

The fighting between the two rebel groups erupted when ISIS attacked Ahfad al-Rasul positions in the city, according to the Observatory and brigade officials.

“They wanted to take our munitions and weapons,” an official from Ahfad al-Rasul told AFP on condition of anonymity.

August 14th, 2013, 4:09 pm

 

zoo said:

Majed

Thanks for reporting the joke of the day. It is a change from your daily hateful posts or you dumb predictions.

“Russia Putin was quoted that he will accept Bashar to leave if Manaf Tlass is replacing him”

August 14th, 2013, 4:14 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

SF94123 #304
People like you are evil and criminal, that is what you deserve,

for Your vulgar language I am sure you are one of them, the criminal shabbiha here on SC, join Revenir

August 14th, 2013, 4:21 pm

 

revenire said:

LOL join me where? Majed please, if you get too excited your heart… calm yourself brother.

August 14th, 2013, 4:24 pm

 

zoo said:

300 Majed

Predictions or suggestions? Potential or real?

Please clarify…

August 14th, 2013, 4:26 pm

 

zoo said:

#301 Revenire

I agree. Al Sissi is a great Egyptian who cares about Egypt, who understand the Egyptians rejection of the authoritarian, intolerant and cruel Islam the tiny Qatar and the West have tried to impose on them.
He maybe the new Nasser that Egyptians have been longing for to restore Egypt’s dignity and role in the Middle East.
No bargain with the Islamists terrorists, they must be all exterminated.

August 14th, 2013, 4:36 pm

 

zoo said:

The West’s paralyzing dilemma: Either they accept to keep Bashar al Assad in power with his conditions or their allies in the region ( Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Turkey and Iraq) will have to deal with a failed state ruled by dangerously armed extremists and terrorists that may destabilize them.

Jordan seeking U.S. help on border with Syria
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/14/jordan-us-help-syria-border/2655237/

Leaders in the region remain concerned about the chaos that would likely follow Assad’s ouster.

Analysts say opposition groups are too fragmented now to be able to assume control of the country if Assad is ousted.

“After Assad is going to be a lot worse than what’s happening now,” said Ramzy Mardini, an independent analyst based in Jordan.

Syria already resembles a failed state in the grips of competing warlords, said a senior Israeli defense official who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak publicly. The official voiced skepticism that any direct military intervention would be helpful.

“You always have to ask yourself … then what?” he said. “Does it create a better reality?”

Dempsey said those viewing the Syrian conflict in the region see a more complex problem than those who view it from a great distance.

“The people who live in the region very clearly see … this is not about choosing one side or the other,” Dempsey said. “It’s about choosing potentially one side among several others.”

“The complexity becomes clearer the closer you get to it,” he said.

August 14th, 2013, 4:52 pm

 

Ghufran said:

I do not know why you guys bother responding to airheads on this blog who are now totally exposed for their support of terrorists and their inability to understand that their violent methods put them in the same camp as almukhabarat and shabeeha, these are the people who have nothing to offer and are unwilling to admit that there are no good players in Syria, there are only victims and a group of war lords. I do not put the army in the same category as mukhabarat because Syria ,regardless whether the regime survives or not, will still need a national body to protect civilians, many Syrians do not trust the army now but most do not trust almukhabarat and the Assad/ Makhloufs clan, Syrians today have to live under the rule of two untrustworthy regimes and since rebels have chosen terrorism as a tool to bring change they will be rejected by most Syrians, however, I do not believe Syrians in areas under regime control will give the regime a blank check, after all this is a regime that looted Syria and imprisoned Syrians for no crime other than refusing to worship ?????? ??????. When this war is over there will be another struggle to end Assad/ Makhlouf dynasty, 43 years is enough, those who rejected the regime but ended up with nusra and Isis have a bigger job to do, Syria will be fractured for the foreseeable future, those who pledged loyalty to Assad or nusra have no vision for the future, the two dominating forces in Syria today are unreformable and should be rejected by all Syrians.

August 14th, 2013, 4:54 pm

 

Tara said:

Erdogan can’t use force to dismiss the protest but Sisi can? And he is hailed as a hero?

What a hypocrisy and what a loss of moral compass.

August 14th, 2013, 5:03 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Where are the thawrajiyyeh ” analysts” to explain this:

Security officials said senior Brotherhood figures Mohamed El-Beltagi and Essam El-Erian were arrested, joining Mursi himself and other Brotherhood leaders in jail. Beltagi’s 17-year-old daughter was among the dead.
Before he was arrested, Beltagi warned of wider conflict, and singled out the head of the armed forces who deposed Mursi on July 3 following mass protests.
“I swear by God that if you stay in your homes, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi will embroil this country so that it becomes Syria. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi will push this nation to a civil war so that he escapes the gallows.”

The truth is that the slogan of a Sunni- Shia war was just a tool to recruit foot soldiers who died and are still dying for nothing.

August 14th, 2013, 5:15 pm

 

sf94123 said:

Dr. Death, You are a supporter of Nusra and a die- hard advocate for bombing Syria since day one -Can’t fool people anymore- You are a disgrace to your family and to the Muslim community in the U.S.

August 14th, 2013, 5:39 pm

 

revenire said:

Hard to believe such a hateful man is a doctor.

August 14th, 2013, 5:44 pm

 
 

don said:

Rep. Eliot Engel insists on his less expensive pound of Syrian flesh

Congressional Democrats challenge Pentagon Syria assessment

Leading members of the House and Senate have dismissed the assessment by the Joint Chiefs of Staff on the cost of any U.S. military intervention in Syria.

The lawmakers, ranking members of major committees, asserted that the assessment by Joint Chiefs chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey ignored U.S. military power.

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/08/12/congressional-democrats-challenge-pentagon-syria-assessment/

August 14th, 2013, 5:48 pm

 

AMEERA said:

????? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ????? ??????? ???? ??? ??? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ? ?????? ? ????? ? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???? ???????? ????????

August 14th, 2013, 5:53 pm

 

Alan said:

The Belarusian and Moldavian girls captured in a north of Latakia by bandits!
forced to read the written text of the paper! ridiculous and idiotic!

http://youtu.be/hGWpRiF69iw?t=34s

August 14th, 2013, 5:56 pm

 

mjabali said:

I am sorry about this disturbing video..my friend just sent this link to me while saying look at what we reached in Syria….

In this video and under the name of Allah these Sunni fighters execute two teen age boys…because they are Shia…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hgmnUpFJO-s

this is how some on this board want to take care of the Alwite kidnapped children….

Of course Obama is watching some TV or at a JAY Z and Beyonce concert

August 14th, 2013, 6:00 pm

 

Alan said:

321. AMEERA
????? ????? ??????? ? ?????? ?? ?????? !

August 14th, 2013, 6:02 pm

 

AMEERA said:

??? ???? ?? ???? ??? ????? ?????????

??? ???? ???? ?? ??? ? ?? ?????? ????? ????????? ????????? ?? ??? ???????

???? ?????? ?? ????? ? ???????? ?????? ???? ????? ? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ????????

??? ????? ????? ????? ?? ??? ???????? ????????? ? ???? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ?????? ? ????? ? ????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ??????? ????????? ? ??????? ?? ??????

???? ???????? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ??????? ??? ? ?????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?????? ? ?? ??? ????? ????? ???????

August 14th, 2013, 6:11 pm

 

AMEERA said:

??? ?? ?? ??? ????? ???????? ?? ???

?? ???? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?? ?? ???? ????? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ???????? ??? ?????? ???? ??? ????

August 14th, 2013, 6:13 pm

 

zoo said:

#319

It is terrifying that a doctor supposedly educated to save life has only in mind killing anyone who doesn’t follow his Islamist ideology.
If he keeps threatening of death the ‘barbaric persians’ and the Shias, he is a public danger.

August 14th, 2013, 6:17 pm

 

zoo said:

Egypt is entering in a confrontation between the National army and the Islamists and their sympathizer calling for an Islamic ‘democracy’.
“Peaceful” protesters use deadly weapons against the police. Turkey have declared the new interim government illegitimate and are encouraging the confrontation as they did in Syria. Sounds familiar?

The minorities in Egypt who have unanimously sided with the army are been threatened of genocide. Turkey ( and probably Qatar) may send weapons to the Islamists to ‘defend’ themselves from the ‘brutal’ Egyptian army. Sounds familiar?

Live updates: Egyptian president declares state of emergency, curfew amid deadly violence
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContentP/1/79000/Egypt/Live-updates-Egyptian-president-declares-state-of-.aspx
Ahram Online, Wednesday 14 Aug 2013

“Armed men in both camps fired at police forces once they started dispersing the sit-ins … police were able to control Nahda and are still combing the surrounding area,” the interior ministry said in another statement on its official Facebook page.

“The police forces only used tear gas despite being attacked by live ammunition [from protesters].”

August 14th, 2013, 6:34 pm

 

Ghufran said:

????? ?????
????? ?? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ?? ????? ??? ????? ? ?????

August 14th, 2013, 6:47 pm

 

Syrian said:

In this you tube video, Alawait army officers and soldiers while wearing the “heroic” Syrian army uniform, beatto death 10 members of the Alhamar family including teen agers.
While they were armed and could have killed them instantly ,they opted to use their boots and hitting their heads to the wall.
One of teen agers got an extra beating because he had blond hair,
http://youtu.be/NVfwUxJX8Ik
Where is Mari Gold Run to see his 2 famous prediction comes true.
What goes around comes around
And the war continue

August 14th, 2013, 7:08 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

WWW
We Will Win

August 14th, 2013, 7:10 pm

 

Syrian said:

God bless America.

August 14th, 2013, 7:10 pm

 

Tara said:

I call on Matt Barber to warn/ ban SF Number for his attempt to bully Majedkhaldoun while calling for Sunni ethnic cleansing, displacing them and stealing their properties. Syria comment should not be a free place for criminal.

August 14th, 2013, 7:23 pm

 

Tara said:

Mjabali

What you fail to grab is the Kuwaiti sheik only represents himself. Anyone can anytime anywhere YouTube himself and release a fatwa. Although I acknowledge the “freddom of fatwa” is a big problem in sunni islam that needs to be handled and restricted, I argue that the issuance of sectarian fatwas is an individuals act and not the revolution policy as opposed to Assad and his Alawi sect institutionalized policy of ethnic cleansing.

What you also fail to understand is that your failure to show similar outrage when Sunnis women were raped and Sunni children were tortured makes you unqualified partner for a discussion in this matter.

August 14th, 2013, 7:32 pm

 

sf94123 said:

Tara ??????? No one is calling for Sunni cleansing- You and your kind are experts in doing just that throughout history since Islam was introduced some 1400 years ago– your grandfathers should remember the Armenian ethnic cleansing – ask them why Sunni Turks kill 3 million Armenians?? … You built your mosques over churches and force Christians and Jews out of their land and stole their properties- You are the thief and the biggest fraud in the history of mankind-

August 14th, 2013, 7:51 pm

 

revenire said:

Oh geez, not the banning talk again. How pedestrian of you Tara.

August 14th, 2013, 7:58 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrian that video is probably a year old. I’ve seen it dozens of times and each time it has a new description. We’re tired of these stupid videos that are supposed to show “regime” crimes.

During a war people get hurt. If you don’t like war put down the guns. If you hang onto the guns and get shot don’t come to SC to cry about it.

August 14th, 2013, 8:02 pm

 

revenire said:

“Sunnis women were raped and Sunni children were tortured”

Yes, yes they were. They were raped and tortured by other Sunnis. By Nursa, by every sort of animal that you “revolution generation” fools accepted in your fight against Assad.

What goes around comes around.

The war continues.

Every cloud has a silver lining.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

August 14th, 2013, 8:06 pm

 

Ghufran said:

????? ?????
????????? ??????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tylVfA6bxw
Let us hope that the guy does not spend the rest of his life in assad’s prisons

August 14th, 2013, 8:09 pm

 

habib said:

315. Tara

Lol, say that to the West.

Syria can’t protect itself from armed terrorists, but Egypt can attack unarmed mobs?

August 14th, 2013, 8:15 pm

 

revenire said:

Syria has the right to kill every single person shooting a gun at its soldiers. It always had that right.

Egypt is doing the right thing.

August 14th, 2013, 8:21 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

You built your mosques over churches and force Christians and Jews out of their land and stole their properties- You are the thief and the biggest fraud in the history of mankind

sf,

And Assad? How many mosques has he destroyed? What has he stolen? What cities has he destroyed? How many homeless has he created?

The issue isn’t religion. The issue is freedom and equal rights. Something Assad and most of the ME have yet to discover.

August 14th, 2013, 8:30 pm

 

Tara said:

Reve

“I am a man you can trust”

Trust in what? getting me jailed in Assad’s dungeon? Nevertheless, it was funny. You made me smile. Thanks.

May be it is me but it is getting dull in here and funny comments are always welcome.

August 14th, 2013, 8:34 pm

 

revenire said:

Ha ha Tara you know I am always at your service. I think after the revolution you and I will be great friends.

August 14th, 2013, 8:39 pm

 

sf94123 said:

AKBAR PALACE, you know better and you are smarter than that!
Assad was naïve- Ordogan and HBJ were his closest advisors. There was a “mosque boom” during his watch.
By the way, there is no “freedom and equal right” in Islam even among themselves- let’s don’t fool anyone!

August 14th, 2013, 8:41 pm

 

mjabali said:

Tara:

I said this many times. If al-Assad and his forces killed any civilian it is a war crime. No question about this. They should stand court.

My “outrage” for the Alawites stems from the fact that the Alawites do not have anyone to speak for them. al-Assad do not represent all of the Alawites. The Alawites are getting massacred by all parties. Do you understand this? It is very simple.

I stated this many times: I am for the minorities of Syria because they have no one to stand up for them. Let me be the first. This point is very easy to understand.

The killing is from both parties, make no mistake.

As for the Fatwas: I disagree with you for the simple fact the the Sunni Fatwa history with the minorities is nothing but shameful and was done not for personal reasons but for the benefit of a huge class of Sunnis. That is why you have a Fatwa against the Alawites, and other minorities from the days of Ibn Taymiyah till now. Ibn Taymiyah did not issue his Fatwas for himself, but for his master the ruler. Islam was manipulated to rule and take the land of minorities, who in the case of Syria are the original inhabitants of the land. The Fatwas were done for material gain, for taking land and for sectarian cleansing to bring the same ethnicity of the ruler. Salh al-Din is an example for this.

The Sunnis of Syria made sure that the stream of Fatwas keeps on going.

From Ibn Taymiyah to al-Eiji to al-Imadi to al-Qari to al-Haskafi to al-Muradi to Ibn Abdeen (father and son) to al-Hamzawi…

The stream of Fatwas kept on coming to rape the properties of the minorities and enslave them. Yes enslave them: they even have Fatwas how to buy and sell those captured from these minorities. This is what we have today: a continuation of the same policy: issue a Fatwa against those minorities and let us take their land and woman and kids, of course kill their men. Do you want the text of these Fatwas.

The Sunnis of Syria made sure to ratify these Fatwas. These Fatwas became the policy and the mode of thinking of the Sunnis.

If anyone needs to make the Middle East a place for HUMANS to live in: they should lock up around 1000 Sunni Sheikhs today.

Look at Sudia Arabia and their formal Dar al-Ifat’ (the place that issue Fatwas) don’t you think that according to modern laws these animals should be locked up or what?

The Muslims did not do well in the Middle East in the land they invaded. This is a scientific fact. The incidents of today (Syria, Egypt, Iraq) proves beyond doubt that this place needs therapy for some and jail for many.

August 14th, 2013, 8:51 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Mjabali
let me tell you, Sunni are different mazhabs Zahiri Mazhab believes in Quraan and VERIFIED hadith, and does not believe in any fatwa,

August 14th, 2013, 9:00 pm

 

Syrian said:

Rev.
Exactly, that is a one year old video, that video was for Jabali, who posted a video of “Sunnis” killing 2 guys,the reason I posted this one year old video is to tell him that his people have been doing worse for over a year,so you better tell him what you told me

“During a war people get hurt. If you don’t like war put down the guns. If you hang onto the guns and get shot don’t come to SC to cry about it.”

I assure you we don’t cry anymore,our tears have dried up loooong time ago,

Also my comment on 332 was in response to Ameera’s request on MK which I don’t expect you to get it since you need to be a Syrian to know what is it about.

August 14th, 2013, 9:00 pm

 

mjabali said:

The Muslims came to Syria 1400 years ago and destroyed the place for its original inhabitants.

The stream of Muslim invaders kept this aggressive destructive legacy alive.

What happens today is a proof of this.

The way most of the Sunni Muslims of Syria view those who are not Sunni Muslims shows that what had developed from Sunni Islam is not compatible with this day and age.

August 14th, 2013, 9:01 pm

 

Syrian said:

“The Muslims came to Syria 1400 years ago and destroyed the place for its original inhabitants.
Look at what your people did to Syria In just 2 years, after they got hold of it for only 40 years,
If one really reflect on your way of ruling a country,one must really come to the conclusion that the people of the past,knew more than us of what you are capable of. And they were right all along.

August 14th, 2013, 9:14 pm

 

ghufran said:

This is from the comment section at aksalser in response to the murder of father Paolo:

????? : ??? ????? .
??????? : ???? ????? ????? (6) (2)
?????? … ?? ??? ????????? .. ???? ??? ???? ????????? .. ???? ???? ????? .. ??? ???? ?????? .. ?????? .. ????? .. ?????? ?? ?? ????? ??? ??????? ???? … ?? ???????? ???????? ????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????? ???????? … ??? … ??? ???? … ???? ????? ??? ???? ????? … ??? ?????? ???? ?????? .. ?? ???? ????? ????? …

August 14th, 2013, 9:31 pm

 

mjabali said:

So called “Syrian”:

It is not a competition here….you and I will lose in this game….most importantly Syria has lost…

Just go to you tube and…search using the words : ????? ????

you will see wonders….good luck…

August 14th, 2013, 9:47 pm

 

zoo said:

The hopeless and aimless wanderings of the SNC under Saudi Arabia influence continues…

“Wasn’t it Einstein who said that it would be insanity to do the same thing over and over, expecting different results?” asked Aron Lund, an expert on the Syrian uprising and Islamist movements.”

Plan to overhaul Syria rebel forces risks stirring dissent

http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/News/Plan+to+overhaul+Syria+rebel+forces+risks+stirring+dissent/-/1840392/1948626/-/item/1/-/hqe5dg/-/index.html

Posted Wednesday, August 14 2013 at 22:13

A call by Syria’s opposition chief Ahmed Jarba to restructure rebel forces into a National Army has stirred rage among jihadists, and even criticism among his ranks.

The plan will reportedly retain General Selim Idriss, the current head of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), a force made up of army defectors and civilians who took up arms against President Bashar al-Assad.

In an interview on Monday, Jarba said the new force was needed to combat elite fighters loyal to Assad’s regime and to form the backbone of a future army.

“We need this army so that it becomes the foundation of a new army, that has air defence capabilities… tanks, logistical support, medical units,” said the head of the National Coalition.

He also acknowledged the need to combat “extremist thinking,” an apparent reference to jihadists who want to create an Islamic caliphate.

“There needs to be a clear and total rejection of any extremist thinking, and of any action that harms civilians, and any targeting of civilians on the basis of religious or ethnic affiliation,” Bahra said.

Lashing out against the ineffectiveness of the foreign-based National Coalition, many dismiss the proposed new force as an irrelevant project unlikely to bear fruit.

Others see the National Army plan as a bid to convince the West to funnel weapons directly to the rebels, by building a more coherent force clearly separate from the jihadists.

But it remains unclear how successful any reorganisation would be, with analysts pointing out the effort would be the latest in a string of bids to unify and streamline the rebels.

“Wasn’t it Einstein who said that it would be insanity to do the same thing over and over, expecting different results?” asked Aron Lund, an expert on the Syrian uprising and Islamist movements.

The conflict has become so localised that it will be difficult to reorganise the rebels, dividing moderates from extremists, he said.

“Many of the biggest groups aligned with Selim Idriss, groups like Liwa al-Tawhid, have said they may not share the ideology of the (Al-Qaeda affiliate) Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, but that they are also not interested in fighting them,” Lund told AFP.

August 14th, 2013, 9:52 pm

 

observer said:

Mjabali

I am surprised you did not comment on my response to your comment. I loved yours and your points you make.

Now you seem to be disappointed with Obama as you both accuse him of colluding with Idris and of not coming to the rescue of the minorities.

I am not sure that Obama cares one bit. He said that he did not feel that there should be an intervention in the Congo or in Liberia for that matter.

He rightly understands that the US can help build an army and a police force within the structure of a viable state but that the US has learned its lessons hard in Afghanistan trying to control an insurgency with AL Qaeda and the Talibans.

The US has no bone in this fight, has no strategic interest, no freedom agenda, no superpower prerogative, no interest in the outcome, no faith in the protagonists be they regime or rebels, after all the regime sent Jihadists to Iraq to thwart the US, so it is payback time big time for the Americans.

The powers have no friends they have interests. The US sees none in Syria, Russia is just a wannabe superpower that wants to score points and no one gives a hoot about it scoring points in Syria of all places.

In this, the fate of the minorities will be inconsequential to the interests of the US.

I admire your belief in a Syrian identity yet I am puzzled at your selective indignation but understand that you feel for your community. This is actually a good proof of my contention that there is no such thing as a true national Syrian identity as the veneer of that disappears quickly when it comes to clan, ethnic group, of sect.

I guess if one sees the satellite photos of the destroyed cities of Syria one has to unfortunately expect the worst. Nowadays we have none but counter fanatics that have the ascendency. The regime fanatics that imprisoned the moderates and stifled any talk of freedom and democracy especially from people like you are now finding a mirror image in the fanatics of the other side. Well, if HA comes and raises a flag of Ali, even if not true but perceived as true, then it is only natural that that the other side raises a flag of Omar or Yazid for that matter in response. The regime wanted it that way thinking that it could repeat the 80’s narrative and bring to its side the urbanites and the minorities but it did backfire.

I am sorry to tell you that a US retreat from the region is exactly what needs to happen. Damn if we do and damn if we do not. The travails of the Arab Islamic world are not to end soon and we will have 80 years of war for 80 years of dictatorial regimes which have governed the region since the 1918 armistice day.

No one is able to fill the void and in the meantime I have to confess that with the conflict contained within the borders of Syria there is every indication that keeping the fanatics fighting each other for another 15 years is actually desirable.

Here in the US no one is talking about the ME, very few people care what happens, there is an Iraq syndrome and the few McCain nuts are of no influence.

So a genocide here or there is not going to stir anybody to the rescue. It is sad and abhorrent but it is the truth.

I deeply regret that any child is sleeping hungry and is afraid exploited and that any person is humiliated or tortured or killed or deprived of liberty and freedom and the rule of law. Alas we have to go through our Medieval times, very dark and very destructive but I do not see any hope anytime soon.

As for my and TARA ancestors’ shortcomings and inequity, we are not responsible surely an erudite and sophisticated person such as you understands that simple concept.

In the final analysis, the only way to avert massacres now is for the community to bring to the table the head of the regime on a platter ( figuratively speaking of course ) without which the entire community I am afraid will suffer its fate.

Good night and good luck

August 14th, 2013, 10:13 pm

 

zoo said:

Decentralization or partitioning?

Syria’s future may impose more decentralization
August 15, 2013 12:21 AM
By David Ignatius

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Opinion/Columnist/2013/Aug-15/227402-syrias-future-may-impose-more-decentralization.ashx#ixzz2c0J0veX8

What this means, says Taqi, is that any attempt to broker a diplomatic solution must begin with a cease-fire, and with combatants holding different slices of territory. The future Syria that emerges will have to be a more decentralized state, reflecting the intense feelings of communal separation and rage that have emerged over the past two years of war.

“It may not be possible to re-establish a national convention based on a central state,” warned Taqi in a recent research paper. “We need … a state where all regions have a high percentage of decentralization.”

Taqi argues that as the Alawite-led regime and the Sunni opposition hunker down in the regions they control, they are turning to external powers for political and economic lifelines.

The Assad regime depends on its patrons in Iran and the Iranian-backed Hezbollah militia in neighboring Lebanon.

The Sunni-led opposition is similarly turning to its regional patrons. Taqi notes that Syrian olive-oil producers moved their presses to Turkey. Likewise, the wheat harvest in northern Syria has gone to Turkey, while petroleum is being shipped to either Turkey or Iraqi Kurdistan. Economic activity in the liberated Sunni regions of southern Syria around Deraa is now linked to Jordan. Damascus isn’t the country’s economic hub any longer.

These regional players, with their own agendas, will keep pulling Syria apart until a functioning national government can be re-established. Taqi’s point is that these regional players shouldn’t be allowed to make the situation even worse for their own selfish reasons.

August 14th, 2013, 11:15 pm

 

Syrian said:

Jabali
If this was a competition you will lose big time, your tube video did not load so I did not watch it, while I’m sure if is horrible video you will have to understand that after we posted 100s of horrible videos we became numbs to them , I hope this thing finishs before you get tired of posting videos like we did.

August 14th, 2013, 11:42 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria’s war has exposed the hypocrisy of western powers

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/14/syria-australia-battle

The conflict has become an ugly proxy battle between innumerable outside forces. If the Australian government is so worried about terrorism, it should stop backing it in Syria
….
Carr was rightly condemned for his comments, yet he ignored another harsh reality: when it comes to Syria, the US and its Saudi Arabian and Qatari allies are backing Islamic fundamentalism under the guise of defeating the west’s key Middle East villain, Iran. Al-Qaida is now thriving, and the number of beheadings and other assorted acts of extreme sectarian violence have been steadily rising. It’s like the funding of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan never happened, or that the lessons learned after the west armed what became al-Qaida under Osama Bin Laden were wiped from the record.

By June this year, Carr accepted the necessary presence of Assad in any successful peace negotiations. Opposition foreign affairs spokeswoman Julie Bishop urged for a “negotiated settlement” in February, but refused to condemn the role of western-backed jihadis.

Meanwhile, foreign fighters are flooding into Syria – and they’ve become some of the fiercest and most successful insurgents against the Assad regime. US officials talk of the country becoming an extremist haven. Blue-eyed jihadists from Europe recently told Foreign Policy that they were committed to establishing an Islamic state inside the nation

August 15th, 2013, 12:14 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Something is going on in Damascus

August 15th, 2013, 12:22 am

 

don said:

Here’s what’s going on in Damascus

Syrian PM says countdown of rebels’ collapse started

DAMASCUS, Aug. 14 — Syrian Prime Minister Wael al- Halqi said Wednesday the countdown of the rebels’ collapse has started.

“Syria is facing a military, economic, media and political war that tries to target its structure as a state and the unity of its people,” al-Halqi said during a cabinet meeting.

Slamming the West’s biased stance in favor of the Syrian opposition, al-Halqi said the pro-Syrian opposition countries “have opted to target the economy of Syria after the failure of their tools on ground to achieve any victory.”

The prime minister’s remarks coincided with a report by the state media that declared the victory of the Syrian army in al- Khmais Mountain in the northern countryside of the coastal province of Latakia on Wednesday.

Checking on military outposts in Latakia Wednesday, Syrian Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi said “the victories achieved by the Syrian army will bring the ultimate victory against the armed terrorist groups in all Syrian provinces,” hailing the “heroism and bravery” of the army, according to the state media report.

The SNC’s old-new demand was always met with a rejection from the Syrian government which repeatedly said any political solution should start with unconditional dialogue. Yet, the opposition seems determined to stick to its adamant stance, which, according to observers, would not be conducive to establishing a common ground for negotiation with the Assad administration.

While stressing Syria’s readiness to resolve the crisis politically to preserve its sovereignty and independence, al-Zoubi said “the opposition has one aim represented by toppling the state without any political project, while the Syrian state works to defeat the armed opposition linked to the United States and Israel, with commitment to finding a national opposition which has productive presence as it is a mirror to the government.”

He said the Syrians would not accept any political solution if it was not approved by Assad, considering that the political solution has to go in parallel with confronting terrorism.

http://english.eastday.com/e/130815/u1a7594587.html

August 15th, 2013, 3:10 am

 

SimoHurtta said:

342. Akbar Palace said:

You built your mosques over churches and force Christians and Jews out of their land and stole their properties- You are the thief and the biggest fraud in the history of mankind

sf,

And Assad? How many mosques has he destroyed? What has he stolen? What cities has he destroyed? How many homeless has he created?

The issue isn’t religion. The issue is freedom and equal rights. Something Assad and most of the ME have yet to discover.

Wow an Israeli Jewish right-wing extremist lecturing. Again.

One thing is Akbar since 1948 Israeli Jewish leaders have destroyed and stolen more mosques than Assads ever. How many homeless have those Polish, Ukrainian, German etc invaders who robbed Palestine created. Certainly more than Assads.

Saying that it is not about religion is naive, when religious groups are managed to start to fight against each other. Israel’s nationalism is and has been driven purely with religion, because the religion is the only what unites Jews. Palestinians use religion in such form as all nations/tribes do when being attacked. But Pals would do it if even they were Hindus. For them the resistance is not motivated by their religion. The motivation is the bad treatment Jews offer them.

Sure in the beginning Syria’s problems were not the religious differences, but now they are thanks to those who did throw petrol in the fight, the religious/ethnic differences matter. One thing is certain Israeli Jews are certainly not annoyed of that.

When a hard-core Zionist says “The issue isn’t religion. The issue is freedom and equal rights.” and goes back to his post guarding a settlement, shooting schoolgirls and arresting 5 year old children, the rest of the world can’t keep politely their poker-face – they laugh loudly.

August 15th, 2013, 7:24 am

 
 

Alan said:

Israeli Defense Minister called for the U.S. war in Syria, announced a new “axis of evil”
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcas1961.livejournal.com%2F2072356.html&sandbox=1

August 15th, 2013, 7:43 am

 

Ghufran said:

More than 500 people died in one day in Egypt, a country where Sunnis are killing Sunnis and Christians are getting attacked by Islamist thugs and a national army that is now being accused of treason, shiaism is not a factor in this fight, indeed Iran is more upset with the army than the MB, only erdugang seems to have enough testosterone to scream but not enough testicles to do anything else. Egyptian tv channels, official and private, are talking and acting like SANA ,and their analysts are the Egyptian version of Sh’hadeh and Aboud in Syria.
Syria is not unique ,and militant Islamists are not going to stop after Syria or Egypt, they are a disease that keeps spreading aided by the GCC , Turkey, and evil sheikhs. Keep in mind that corruption and oppression are essential factors in feeding this monster,

August 15th, 2013, 9:00 am

 

zoo said:

Will the new “transitional” government promised by Jarba move to Raqqa, the “only provincial capital in rebel hands”?

Syria: Islamist infighting sweeps Raqqa

http://www.aawsat.net/2013/08/article55313705

After two years of fighting, the city of Raqqa, located in the eastern Jazira region of Syria on the banks of the Euphrates, is the only provincial capital currently in rebel hands.
The UK-based Syrian Observatory of Human Rights announced that elements linked to ISIS seized the Ahfad Al-Rasul Brigade’s headquarters in Raqqa after a suicide car bomb went off near the building, causing dozens of casualties. The SOHR added that at least “18 elements from Ahfad Al-Rasul were executed after their headquarters were stormed.”

An opposition activist from Raqqa, Ibrahim Msallam, told Asharq Al-Awsat that the dispute between the two Islamist groups began as ISIS demanded that all rebels pay homage to its leader, as the group intends to declare Raqqa an Islamic emirate by the end of the month.

August 15th, 2013, 9:05 am

 

zoo said:

” A major diplomatic effort is needed

The changing war

http://www.opendemocracy.net/paul-rogers/syria-long-war-0

The central role of jihadist paramilitaries in the operation is a notable part of the capture of Minnagh. In fact, these groups are coming to dominate the civil war as a whole. The same Jane’s Defence Weekly article says: “Every major offensive in the region has been announced, led and coordinated by Islamists. This is also increasingly the case elsewhere in the country.”

Alongside the expanding role of Islamist paramilitaries in the war, are three further trends. The first is the increasing supply of modern weapons, anti-armour missiles, to these paramilitaries. The weapons now include supplies from Sudan, paid for by Qatar, and reportedly moved by Ukrainian transport-aircraft to an airfield in Turkey and thence into northern Syria (see C J Chivers & Eric Schmitt, “Arms Shipments Seen from Sudan to Syria Rebels”, New York Times, 12 August 2013).

The second is the rapid rise in the number of foreign fighters joining the Islamist groups among the rebels. Total numbers are uncertain and range from United States estimates of 6,000 (see Anne Barnaed & Eric Schmitt, “Syria risks being extremist haven as fighters flow in”, International Herald Tribune, 10 August 2013) http://iht.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx through to a Lebanese government source that gives a figure of 17,000 (see Liz Sly, “Al-Qaeda expands in Syria via Islamic State”, Washington Post, 13 August 2013) Both calculations indicate a foreign involvement at least as large as that which joined the war against the Americans in Iraq in 2004-07.
..
The dangerous future

All this means that the Syrian civil war has entered a new phase which essentially pitches the Alawi regime of Bashar al-Assad against Islamist paramilitaries, with the more secular elements of the rebellion becoming far less important. This in no ways diminishes the proxy nature of the war but it is likely substantially to diminish support offered by western countries to the rebels, meaning that the role of Qatar and (especially) Saudi Arabia is becoming central to the war.

This argument was made in an earlier column in this series (see “Syria’s war, a new phase”, 13 June 2013). Since then, more effective weapons have been arrived in the hands of the Islamist groups and the ISIL connection has been revealed. These developments are still in their early stages, and their full impact yet to be known. But they imply that the war will have many months if not years to run, and that its most likely outcome is a divided Syria in which significant territory and centres of population will come under Islamist governance. The only way to avoid this would be to involve the centres of power in Riyadh and Doha, as well as Tehran, in a major diplomatic effort.

August 15th, 2013, 9:09 am

 

zoo said:

#364 Gufran

The West has pampered the Moslem Brotherhood under the illusion encouraged by Turkey and Qatar that they were the ‘moderate democratic’ future of the Arab world and that they can be easily controlled.
Qatar’s main manipulator HBJ is now out in the wild and Erdogan is struggling for his shaky future political career.
Without these two, the MB has no chance to survive. Now that it is weak, it is time to crush it totally. Nobody will come to their rescue.
The Islamists in Egypt need a significant defeat that will paralyze them for the next decades.
There is no bargain possible with a virus. It needs to be eradicated ruthlessly even if it implies weakening the patient.

August 15th, 2013, 9:20 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

One of the last images I remeber from Syria, with the revolution already ongoing by august 2011 was the picture of Basshar Al Ass…ad wearing army clothes fixed on the rear window of a Service with the words:

Ouyoun Assad

Pff aleikum. The militar dictatorships are showing their real nature in Syria as in Egypt. They are the criminal, absolutists, they destroyed the economics via clientelism and corruption. Fxxx all the militar regimes.

Here we come Habibi la tkhaaf. Yalla ‘al Malki.

August 15th, 2013, 9:45 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Severe battle in Zainab .
FSA attacked Assad criminals thugs in reef Latakia.

WWW,we will defeat Assad and his thugs and break their heads, Syria will be free,will be democracy, and those thugs that defend Assad here on SC will be humilliated,they are supportive of criminal Assad so they are criminals and thugs the same for supporters of HA and the rest of barbaric persians like the criminbal SF94123

August 15th, 2013, 9:50 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Ameera
You obviously worship Ass.ad, and your language is not fit for a woman from Damascus, they are polite and they don’t say bad words like you, Damascus will reject you,you are not damascene

August 15th, 2013, 9:58 am

 

mjabali said:

Observer:

I am sorry that I did not continue and answer your post. I like the part in which you talk about your family. It reminded me with some novels I have read.

I will read it again after work and respond to both of your posts. It is good at this time to have a dialogue.

Have a good day

August 15th, 2013, 10:28 am

 

mjabali said:

So called Syrian:

The video I linked to shows how the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham killed with cold blood two teen age Shia boys.

AS for Islam in the middle East and comparing it to al-Assads 42 years rule: I will answer this later tonight because you insisted to linking me to al-Assads, just because you think I am an Alawite.

One thing before I go: Even my dog knows that al-Assads do not represent the Alawis and they just use them as a tool for their own personal agendas.

Even my dog knows that al-Assads NEVER worked for any Alawite “agenda,” like your Sunni world domination ideas floating around since the days of your prophet till now.

If you, the Sunnis, understood this, this Syrian crisis had been over a long time ago.

August 15th, 2013, 10:35 am

 

zoo said:

#369 Majed

“those thugs that defend Assad here on SC will be humilliated’

Suggestion or prediction?

August 15th, 2013, 10:53 am

 

zoo said:

#Majabali

This is the report behind the video. These people are vicious and sick. They have no place in Syria

Islamist rebels execute two Shi’ite youths in Syria: monitoring group
Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:22am EDT

http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCABRE97E0PB20130815?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=401

BEIRUT (Reuters) – Two youths from Shi’ite villages in northern Syria have been executed by members of an al Qaeda-linked Islamist rebel group, according to a video uploaded to the Internet on Wednesday by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

The British-based monitoring group, which is opposed to President Bashar Al-Assad, said the execution took place on Tuesday or Wednesday in Aleppo province.

The executions are the latest incident of sectarian violence in Syria’s nearly two and a half year civil war, which began with peaceful protests but has descended into sectarian hatred, pitting Sunni majority rebels against Assad’s Alawite sect and Shi’ite Hezbollah.

In the video, two blindfolded youths kneel before a masked man who reads a statement in the name of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, one of the strongest rebel groups in Syria.

The man identifies the youths as coming from Nubul and al-Zahra, predominantly Shi’ite villages in the mostly rebel-held countryside northwest of Aleppo city. He says the group kidnapped them to exchange them for prisoners but was now executing them in response to the failure of that exchange.

The man exits from view after finishing his statement and voices off camera shout “God is great” before the youths appear to be struck by more than twenty rounds of gunfire and fall to the ground motionless.

August 15th, 2013, 10:56 am

 
 

zoo said:

#370 Majed

Ha ha ha! You better go to Raqqa to stay among you criminal buddies. They are very polite, they invoke Allah after every of their murder. They’ll love you.

August 15th, 2013, 11:06 am

 

zoo said:

New Saudi-supplied missiles boost rebels in south Syria

Suleiman Al-Khalidi Reuters

10:44 a.m. EDT, August 15, 2013

AMMAN (Reuters) – Rebels in southern Syria have fired newly acquired anti-tank guided missiles supplied by Saudi Arabia in a significant boost to their battle against President Bashar al-Assad, rebel, intelligence and diplomatic sources say.

Several Russian-designed Konkurs anti-tank weapons were used in a rebel attack this week on an army position in Deraa city near the Jordanian border, said a source in a rebel brigade linked to the Western-backed Supreme Military Council.

August 15th, 2013, 11:12 am

 

zoo said:

After Syria, now the twin Moslem Brotherhood supporters, Qatar and Turkey, call to refer Egypt to the UNSC

Turkey’s ‘unfortunate UN attempts’ unlikely to succeed: Egypt

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-unfortunate-un-attempts-unlikely-to-succeed-egypt.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52586&NewsCatID=352

Egypt has expressed “dismay” at what they said were “unfortunate” attempts by Turkey and Qatar to refer developments in Egypt to the U.N. Security Council.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an called today for an urgent U.N. Security Council meeting over Egypt’s bloody crackdown on supporters of ousted President Mohamed Morsi, which has left hundreds dead.

Erdo?an’s office said Aug. 14 he had spoken to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and separately to all permanent members of the Security Council this week about the crisis.

According to a report from Egypt’s al-Ahram, Egyptian diplomats expressed “dismay” at what they said were “unfortunate” attempts by Ankara and Doha to refer developments in Egypt to the U.N. Security Council, adding that this effort was unlikely to succeed.

Turkey’s stance has infuriated Egypt’s interim government, which last month voiced “strong resentment” at Erdo?an’s comments backing the ousted Morsi.

August 15th, 2013, 11:30 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
Good news from you about Deraa, hopefully we can smash Ass.ad forces there,,we will invite you to our victory celebration, and feed you Pepper and bitter

The Sisi are criminal group, why don’t you go there?

August 15th, 2013, 11:49 am

 

Syrian said:

A huge explosion in southern Beirut, next to hozboola head quarter.
Someone. somewhere from Qusir and Set Zineb is handing out sweets in the street.

August 15th, 2013, 12:00 pm

 

apple_mini said:

The death toll seems high in Egypt, but considered the number of hell bent Islamists and MB members it is not off the chart.

When NYPD went in Zuccotti park, those OWS activists were not determined to be martyrs. Those cops were not shot at either. Otherwise, there would have been bloodshed as well.

No government would allow defiant anti-government protesters sit in and grow their numbers and influence.

For strategic reasons, Egyptian army will not be ditched by the west. The army just needs to play their PR campaign subtly. The most important thing is to clear up the mess ASAP.

There will be no civil war simply because the Islamists and MB do not have access to weapons to chanllenge the army. Unlike Syria, no players in the neighboring countries dares to send in weapons to arm the opposition.

August 15th, 2013, 12:36 pm

 

sf94123 said:

Yes…go and join your criminal buddies in al Raqqa and have a Throat- Cutter/ Cannibalism Party (eating the flesh or internal organs of other human beings- you will be useful in identifying organs) or better yet have a church burning party (so far you and your people have burned 52 Churches in Syria) – Yahoo—We are very close to liberate Syria, restore our dignity and enjoy equal rights…. Job well done Dr. Death

August 15th, 2013, 12:44 pm

 

Tara said:

Syrian

HA and its base had it coming. What goes around comes around.

The only way I see to stop the violence is for Lebanese Shiaa to lay down their arms, denounce terrorism, exile Narallah, and come to the negotiation table with the rest of the Lebsnese. HA is a terrorist organization and should be exterminated.

August 15th, 2013, 12:50 pm

 

Alan said:

Dempsey ! You are commander of nothing until Congress passes a declaration of war. If you insist Americans will arrest you and try you for treason !” The result…no Vietnam or Korea or Desert Storm ect. No murder of the President with the military complicit in that! It would have been a lot different country if the military had really defended America instead of attacking it! 🙂

August 15th, 2013, 1:30 pm

 

Ghat Al Bird said:

Why is it so hard for intelligent and honorable people to resolve their differences without murdering each other?

The only poeple that as far as any intelligent person can determine that benefit from the destruction of Syria are non-syrians.

It also should be quite evident after over 100,000 dead that its time to stop and talk it out.

Don’t continue to benefit others such as…..

http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-the-killers-of-peace/5345805

August 15th, 2013, 1:36 pm

 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

SF94123
said Job well done
It is not well done till you face court at the hands of rebels

August 15th, 2013, 2:59 pm

 

syrian said:

Tara.
That what should really happens, but they(same as BAtta) are addicted to power.and will not give up untill they go through the same pains they inflctud on others.

August 15th, 2013, 3:20 pm

 

syrian said:

About the video so called” Jabali” have mentioned, the word on the net is , there were an agreement of prisoners exchange between ISIS and the people of Nabel, twice the deal did not go through and in 2nd attempt the people of Nable ambushed the ISIS and killed few fighters, So the ISIS killed the 2 hostages in retaliation

August 15th, 2013, 3:36 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

There are insider news from Sweida officials in the ASSAD’S SYRIA ARMY that predicts the end of the army in less than one year. The state of desperation, lack of morals, deficit of recruitments as well as lack of legitimacy and popularity makes of ASSAD’S SYRIA ARMY is near to collapse, maybe real collapse this time. This is according to some officials in Sweida serving to ASA.

August 15th, 2013, 4:10 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Hezballah the great rebel party of poor and miserable shiites of Lebanon created by Khomeini and Hafez Al Assad in the early 80’s is receiveing the same drug they used to administrate in the past. Massive car bombs at their’s homes doors.

When all sons of most HA leaders are rich boys with last model Porsches, etc. then it came the time to get back the results of what their parents planted. And the worst thing is that these stupid rich boys will not be able to defend anything and fight like their fathers did. They will get swallowed by flames of hate.

August 15th, 2013, 4:29 pm

 

sf94123 said:

MAJEDKHALDOUN post 386 on August 15th, 2013, 2:59 pm said ”
SF94123
said Job well done
It is not well done till you face court at the hands of rebels”
———————-
Simply you want to kill me!I’ll take your direct THREAT seriously- Dr. Landis and his people should take a note of your threat- I shall report your threat to authorities in your jurisdiction.

August 15th, 2013, 4:37 pm

 

revenire said:

Considering the rebels behead people it comes off like a death threat. This Majed character is out of control.

August 15th, 2013, 5:41 pm

 

revenire said:

Sharmine Narwani ?@snarwani 4m
Listen up, you monumentally stupid western journalists: Dahiyeh is a #Beirut suburb with mostly Shia CIVILIANS – not “Hezbollah stronghold.”

August 15th, 2013, 5:42 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Sf94123
Please make complaint in Denver Colorado,I am waiting for that,

August 15th, 2013, 6:07 pm

 

mjabali said:

So called “Syrian:”

??? ???? ?? ???

What a justification for the killing of those two children under the name of Islam. This is your true colors. Islam as I said brought nothing to Syria but death. Wait till I finish work to show you the history of your religion in my country Syria. What a shameful history! keep on hiding it.

August 15th, 2013, 6:36 pm

 

Sami said:

Oh now Sharmine talks about civilian casualties while she tried miserably to write off Syrian civilian deaths.

What a pathetic excuse of a journalist. She is nothing but a failed hack that will only be relevant to those stupid enough to digest her backwards and simplistic narratives.

Please someone remind me where does this “Journalist” live again? Kind of ironic to lambast western journalist while she her self is a wanna be western journalist. I would say it is an extreme case of jealousy only I don’t think this dimwit has the proper brain capacity for that…

August 15th, 2013, 6:45 pm

 

Tara said:

The FSA is advancing in Qaboun district in Damascus.

August 15th, 2013, 7:02 pm

 

Syrian said:

So called “Jabali”
obviously you have a problem reading, I never said it was justified, I said before it must be a horrible video.
I’m all for the regime who supported the same group 10 years ago in Iraq to go fight them to death.
As for teaching me about the history of Islam, you can save your time, I’m not waiting on a hater to teach me anything,
Your inner hate and the obvious miserable state you are in is a reminder to me to thank God on the gift of peace of mind I have,
Good luck to you

August 15th, 2013, 7:06 pm

 

revenire said:

Martians have landed in New York.

August 15th, 2013, 7:16 pm

 

Syrian said:

Handing out sweets in Syria’s streets

http://youtu.be/6L5emcPt4NI

August 15th, 2013, 7:33 pm

 

zoo said:

Dr Death and his friends on SC must rejoice, 20+ “heretics” less on earth

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/15/199501/blast-hits-hezbollah-area-in-beirut.html#.Ug1mRzdk34s

Blast hits Hezbollah area in Beirut, showing spread of Syria conflict

BEIRUT — A large suspected car bomb exploded Thursday in the southern part of this city in a neighborhood controlled by the militant group Hezbollah, signaling another encroachment of the Syrian civil war into Lebanon.

The blast killed more than 20 people and wounded scores of others in streets crammed with offices and military posts for the Shiite Muslim group. Several 10-story apartment buildings burned for more than an hour.

Thursday’s explosion was notable because it struck the busy residential Rweiss neighborhood. That’s well within what Hezbollah considers its “security zone,” an area where it maintains an overt and aggressive buffer around the homes and offices of its leadership.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/15/199501/blast-hits-hezbollah-area-in-beirut.html#storylink=cpy

August 15th, 2013, 7:40 pm

 

zoo said:

Israel sounds exactly like our SC Shia-haters

Nasrallah not looking quite so smart now

http://www.timesofisrael.com/bombed-nasrallah-not-looking-quite-so-smart-now/

The purported Hezbollah strategic genius has got himself into a war with al-Qaeda-linked extremists who might just be even more evil than he is

August 15th, 2013, 7:49 pm

 

Tara said:

Syrian

Notice in your link the hustle and bustle of Raqqa city life?. I wish I can visit. It appears very warm environment. Would be nice to stroll down and take in the happy atmosphere of the Raqqans. .

August 15th, 2013, 7:50 pm

 

revenire said:

Isn’t Raqqa where they murdered Father Paolo?

August 15th, 2013, 7:55 pm

 

revenire said:

Isn’t Raqqa where the ISIS tossed out the FSA?

August 15th, 2013, 7:58 pm

 

Syrian said:

Tara.
I noticed it too, but little late.I posted the clip after I only watched the first few seconds then watched the rest of it. I was thinking I should have watched it all 1st.
Thanks for bringing attention to it.i’m sure regime supporters will be very disappointed to find out that it not what they were claiming it to be!

August 15th, 2013, 8:17 pm

 

revenire said:

Syria and Egypt are fighting the same enemy: the Muslim Brotherhood. The Western media has already started talking about massacres in Egypt.

August 15th, 2013, 8:27 pm

 

revenire said:

It’s a great tourist destination!

“Jad Bantha ?@JadBantha 10h
Intense clashes between #ISIS and #FSA after #ISIS had assassinated a religious scholar Mohammad Deibo in #Raqqa #Syria”

🙂

August 15th, 2013, 8:37 pm

 

Ghufran said:

It says a lot about Syrian expats who celebrate or justify the murder of civilians in Beirut when hizbullah’s political enemies in Lebanon condemned the bombing and called it terrorism. The attack came after hizbullah commemorated istael’s failure in 2006 and days after 4 Israeli soldiers were ambushed while trying to sneak inside Lebanon. Today a senior Israeli official declared that Israel will not allow the new ” axis of evil” to win in Syria amid attempts by Israeli generals to convince the USA to bomb Syria. Rebels received treatment in Israeli hospitals while Syrian military targets were bombed three times by Israel. Whether it was the Mossad or their Takfiri agents in Lebanon who detonated the car bomb, the truth is that takfiris ,who are the backbone of Syrian rebel force today, and Israel are and have been on the same page, this is why those terrorists have not fired a bullet against Israeli targets in the last twenty years but have been busy killing Iraqi and Syrian civilians. The response of hizbullah to Israeli attacks in the past was not by throwing press conferences or making empty threats, it was by directing all efforts to fighting Lebanon’s natural enemy: Israel , the comments on the terrorist attack in Beirut by some of you is both predictable and pathetic.
Israel and its Takfiri friends are inseparable, wake up and do not act surprised when these two terrorist forces act in harmony.

August 15th, 2013, 9:03 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

They attack us we fight back, this is self defence,

Death to the crimnials,WWW

August 15th, 2013, 9:14 pm

 

revenire said:

This is the kind of thinking Assad is fighting:

“Amr Tarik ?@UtterMarooner 29m
MB official page says that the Pope participated in #Morsi overthrown and wonders how people still ask why do they burn the churches. #egypt”

The Muslim Brotherhood is pure evil. Hafez Assad and Nasser knew how to deal with them.

August 15th, 2013, 10:56 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

It seems that the southern rebels in Deraa have acquired some weapons, Prince Salman Ibn Sultan is in Amman worked on this deal.
General Dempsey was in the ME.
WWW, We will win

August 15th, 2013, 11:00 pm

 

AMEERA said:

?? ???? ?? ??? ??? ???? ????????? ? ??? ???????? ???? ? ????? ????? ????????? ? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ??? ????? ????

August 15th, 2013, 11:04 pm

 

AMEERA said:

???? ??? ?? ???? ????
????? ??? ?????? ?????? ? ???? ???? ???? ? ??? ?? ???? ??? ????
??? ?? ??? ???? ????? ? ???? ?? ??? ? ??? ???? ??? ???? ? ?????? ? ????? ??? ????? ?? ?? ????? ??????? ??? ?? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?? ?????

? ????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ? ????? ??? ???? ????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ?? ????? ? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ???

August 15th, 2013, 11:11 pm

 

zoo said:

Revenir

As the pro-rebels expats have realized that Damascus will never be ‘liberated’ and Aleppo is still contested, they now accept that Raqqa will the capital of their future mini-Syria.

August 15th, 2013, 11:46 pm

 

zoo said:

Ameera

Bravo!

August 15th, 2013, 11:47 pm

 

ghufran said:

A video showing women and children who were taken as Sabaya by the terrorists in Reef Latakia, the intention was to beautify the ugly face of those animals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XPwPzNOpNv8

The photographer with the beard is a known terrorist who worked for Aljazeera which seems to be using his “services” again.
????? ????? ???? ?? ????????? ???? ??????? “????” ???? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ?????? ???????.
????? ??? ??? ???? ?? ????????? ??? ???? ???? “??? ????” ????? ???? “???????” ????????
(The name is Rida Siyam)

This is one response the video received:
ahmnader 4 hours ago
??? ?? ???? ???? ?????? …..?????? ???????? ????? ((( ????))? …….????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??????..??? ???? ???? ???? ..??? ?? ????? ??????? ??????? ?? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? …?? ???? ..?? ???? ..???? ???????? ???????? ??????? …???? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????? ??? ??????? ????? ..???? ?????? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????? ??????? ….
This is what is left of the “revolution”

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August 15th, 2013, 11:49 pm

 

zoo said:

6 March 2011 / Syrian opposition members agree on a road map

1 April 2012 / The opposition agrees on a roadmap

Syrian opposition members said they have agreed on a roadmap on how to proceed with a transitional government for the post-Assad era in their ?stanbul meeting ahead of a key gathering of Friends of Syria planned for April 1 in the city.

15 Aout 2013 / The opposition to agree on ( the same) roadmap in a meeting planned in Istanbul on 15 August

….. 2014 /the opposition agrees on a road map? Where?

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/default.aspx?pageid=438&n=syrian-opposition-agree-on-a-road-map-2011-06-03
http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=275969
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/153964/syria-opposition-draws-up-transition-road-map.html

August 15th, 2013, 11:56 pm

 

revenire said:

This “revolution” is dirty, all its supporters are dirty.

August 15th, 2013, 11:57 pm

 

zoo said:

The meeting of the opposition in Istanbul to present the ‘roadmap’ planned on the 15 August seems to have been missed by the press, postponed or cancelled.
I have not seen any reporting that it took place…

The roadmap ‘agreed’ by the opposition will celebrate its third birthday but it seems in arrested development.

August 16th, 2013, 12:09 am

 

ghufran said:

This is the response from sheikh Ghazal’s family to his kidnapping and beating by the terrorists in Reef Latakia:
(by sheikh Zulfiqar Ghazal)
??? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ??????? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ????????.
??? ????? ???? ?? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ?? ??? ????????? ??? ???? ????? ?? ????????? ????? «??? ????? ?? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ???????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ????? ???? ??????? ??? ????? ???????? ??????? ???? ??????????? ????? ???? ??? ?? «????????? ??????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ???????? ???? ????? ????? ??????».
??? ????? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ???????? ??? ???? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????? ????????? ???????? ?????? ????? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ????».
The hostages taken by the terrorists are being used as human shields to stop the army from advancing to certain areas and as a bargaining chip to win the release of some rebel prisoners. There are attempts to end this tragedy peacefully but I think the fight in north latakia will not stop until the area is free from all foreign fighters.
Syrians who carried arms may eventually find a way out and go back to their villages and cities but non Syrian jihadists will not have the luxury of staying, nobody wants them in the area including the sunnis in al-haffeh.

August 16th, 2013, 12:32 am

 

revenire said:

Road-map to nowhere.

August 16th, 2013, 12:45 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

AMEERA

? ????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ? ????? ??? ???? ????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ?? ????? ? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ???

And you wonder why Aleppo country side is up in arms and so hateful of “urbanites”.

I can understand zouzou chearing such a racist comment, but i am beyond disappointed it came from you. If you come to the States, somehow i have a feeling that you will be one of those “Airabs” who call blacks “slaves”.

Have a good life.

August 16th, 2013, 2:52 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

I was disgusted at nus-lira and dog-poop athad sniffers for handing out sweets in celebration of death, and I am disgusted at anyone who does that. So in that regard, i will reiterate what I wrote on QN’s site, anyone bringing baqlawa around me in celebration of death will leave my side wearing “?????” as a hat and will have its face indistinguishable from the baqlawa it is trying to serve.

Now the real issue is that one never heard a protest from the dog-poop sniffers when nus-lira thugs were handing out sweets in celebration of death. Thus, one has to be disgusted with sniffers like zouozou, and the troll pretender for their fake, disgusting, and pathetic indignation.

Humanistic values are absolute and make no distinction between lobbing scuds at Syrian cities and exploding a car in al-dahya in Beirut. Tell that to dimwit narwani before she chokes on her own hyperbole.

August 16th, 2013, 3:10 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

And the above goes for those who are happy about seeing others soaked in their blood. How disgusting.

August 16th, 2013, 3:29 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

????? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ? ??? ???? ????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ??????? ???????

August 16th, 2013, 6:02 am

 

don said:

It’s “Friday Of Rage” in Egypt hehehehe!

Happy Friday, and many returns.

August 16th, 2013, 6:05 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Freedom for Me, not for You Alert

This “revolution” is dirty, all its supporters are dirty.

As he said from his comfy home in California…

August 16th, 2013, 7:24 am

 

revenire said:

Hamster Ameera seems quite reasonable to me.

August 16th, 2013, 9:23 am

 

zoo said:

7000 refugees flee the unsafe ‘liberated areas’ where FSA-Al Nusra-Kurds are fighting into Iraq Kurdistan

Syrian refugees pour into Iraq at new crossing: UN

http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/2013/08/16/syrian-refugees-pour-into-iraq-at-new-crossing-un

Most were families with women, children and the elderly, mainly from Aleppo, Hassakeh and other embattled areas of Syria where fighting has intensified in the civil war, now in its third year, that has driven nearly two million refugees

August 16th, 2013, 9:34 am

 

zoo said:

The Thumbs hacker is back

Suddenly the spamming of the thumbs up and down has restarted again. Is the chief spammer Visitor back?

August 16th, 2013, 9:38 am

 

zoo said:

>Turkey “spiritual leader” Gulen tells the AKP that it has failed to establish harmonious relation with the region and that it should return its attention to the EU.

Turkey needs to cooperate with EU, Islamic scholar Gülen says

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-needs-to-cooperate-with-eu-islamic-scholar-gulen-says.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52631&NewsCatID=341

Gülen, a self-exiled theologian living in the United States’ Pennsylvania and the leader of the “Hizmet” (Service) Islamist religious movement, was defined as a “Turkish religious spiritual leader.”
..
Good relationships and influence depend on love, respect, and good will, and collaborating around mutually agreeable goals. Is Turkey doing these fully today or not? This is a question that deserves discussion. If Turkey is indeed able to develop good diplomatic relations in the region, I believe it will be in the interest of Europe, the United States and the world.

But I don’t think Turkey is doing what it can toward this end at the moment,” he said.

August 16th, 2013, 9:53 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenire said
“Hamster Ameera seems quite reasonable to me.”
Reasonable To YOU,so ,you yourself insulted yourself
????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????

August 16th, 2013, 10:03 am

 

Tara said:

Damascus will eventually be liberated. It will never be part of Alawistan. It will always be a the Umayad capital,

August 16th, 2013, 10:10 am

 

don said:

Jerusalem and Tel Aviv will be liberated.

August 16th, 2013, 10:16 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

With the rebels fight in around Qurdaha, I doubt there will be Alawistan

August 16th, 2013, 10:27 am

 

revenire said:

Sean Connery will always be the best James Bond.

August 16th, 2013, 10:30 am

 

revenire said:

It is Nusrah, it is all Nusrah, it is just Nusrah
Groupies of the Syrian “revolution” in the West have a cute tactic: they are willing to admit that war crimes and sectarian thuggeries are being committed in Syria but they blame all such crimes on the Nusrah Front. In reality, most of the rebel thuggery in Syria is being committed by the US-backed (and “moderate”) variants of the Fee Syrian Army.

http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

August 16th, 2013, 10:33 am

 

Alan said:

When Putin said No, Bandar reverted to his fallback position; the only way out in Syria is war – and Moscow should forget about the perennially postponed Geneva II peace conference because the “rebels” will be a no show.

Bandar Bush’s visit to Moscow simply could not have happened without a green light from Washington. So what’s the (muddled) master plan?

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/08/15/bandar-bush-weaponizer-in-chief-liberator-in-chief-of-syria/

———————————–

The Egyptian army is just an army, a militia in fact, and VERY well regulated. It has no political power but it has economical power. And the generals are kept in check by their underlings; the army itself isn’t planning on shooting or killing their own people. The army as a whole would absolutely refuse such an order.

Is the US government targeting Egypt for destabilization – and eventual destruction?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/14/rford/

August 16th, 2013, 11:36 am

 

Sami said:

Someone get Asa’ad Abu Khara some Imodium he is spewing Khara again!

August 16th, 2013, 11:44 am

 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

Ameera said
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In Shaa Allah

August 16th, 2013, 1:12 pm

 

Alan said:

McCain and Graham’s Strange Egyptian Adventure
What was President Obama thinking? Last week’s trip to Egypt by the neoconservative dynamic duo, Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, seemed like an improbably bad idea from the start.

In the highly delicate situation inside Egypt, where the military is expected at any moment to initiate another bloody crackdown against supporters of the ousted president, Mohamed Morsi, Graham and McCain would not be most people’s choice to smooth tensions.

Nevertheless it was reported that they traveled at the request of the US President in attempt to diffuse the increasing anti-American sentiment in all sectors of the Egyptian political universe. Indeed, the one position unifying nearly all political factions in Egypt is a deep disgust with the current US administration. Perhaps it is that commonality that the two senators hoped to build on. If that was the case, they certainly did not dissapoint.

The strangeness began immediately, as these envoys of the president proceeded to contradict Obama and his State Department’s position on Egypt.

According to US law, financial aid to Egypt must cease should the country undergo a military coup. Avoiding that term has led the administration to savagely torture the English language. It was no coup, the Egyptian military was actually “restoring democracy” by overthrowing an elected president, said Secretary of State John Kerry.

State Department spokesman Jen Psaki explained how the administration decided to avoid making a determination of what is obvious to everyone: “we have determined that we do not have to make a determination” as to whether or not a coup took place in Egypt, she said last week. It is an imperial voice.

Nevertheless, speaking in Cairo on Tuesday, McCain utterred the “C” word: “[T]he circumstances of (Morsy’s) removal was a coup,” he said.

Then later in the day, the Egyptian Cabinet responded by Tweet (in Twitter language) that: “McCain remarks from inside the Egy territory to the W.Post insults the Egy sovereignty.we consider him persona non grata.an unwelcome person.”

McCain and Graham further alienated the Obama Administration from the current ruling regime by demanding that they begin to release from prison the members of the Muslim Brotherhood who had been detained as the Muslim Brotherhood-led government was overthrown by military action.

Lest the two be accused of traveling to Egypt to side with the ousted Morsi government, the senators also identified with those who overthrew the Morsi government. Senator McCain said in Cairo that, “[W]e share the democratic aspirations and criticism of the Morsi government that led millions of Egyptians into the streets.” In other words, it was a coup, the winners are behaving badly, but we support it anyway because its genesis was people in the street.”

The US Administration then proceeded to publicly dissociate itself from the statements made by the President’s own envoys to Egypt, with Psaki stating,

“Senators McCain and Graham are certainty entitled to their opinions, just as any member of Congress is…the US government has stated what our opinion is.”

No wonder the Egyptians are confused.

Upon their return, the two senators penned an op-ed in the Washington Post in which they systematically identified themselves with each and every coup in Egypt since the “Arab Spring”:

We are longtime friends of Egypt and its armed forces. We have fought as hard as anyone over many years to maintain our vital foreign assistance to Egypt.

Translation: We were pro-Mubarak and supported his repressive regime.

We were early supporters of the 2011 revolution and have consistently spoken up for the democratic aspirations of the Egyptian people.

Translation: We then supported those who, trained by the US, undertook to overthrow Mubarak.

We were among the strongest critics of former president Mohamed Morsi’s undemocratic actions, and we sympathized with the millions of Egyptians who took to the streets last month to protest Morsi’s abuses of power.

Translation: Then we supported those who undertook to overthrow the democratically-elected president who succeeded Mubarak, whose political orientation was very different from the US-supported Egyptian youth protestors in the “Arab Spring.”

But as we said again this week in Cairo, we find it difficult to describe the circumstances of Morsi’s removal from office as anything other than a coup.

Translation: But now we are supporting those who seek to undermine those we recently supported who came to power in a coup that we also supported……….

http://iranian.com/posts/view/post/19027

August 16th, 2013, 1:37 pm

 
 

zoo said:

Is Turkey elegantly calling ‘smugglers’ the thousands of armed Islamists who are trying to flee the fights and return Turkey where they came from?

Turkish troops fired at after stopping smugglers

ANKARA, Turkey, Aug. 16 (UPI) — Turkish troops came under fire near the Syrian border after confronting a group of 750 to 1,000 smugglers, officials said.

The troops stopped the smugglers Thursday morning near the village of Kusakli in the Reyhanli district of Hatay province, Today’s Zaman reported.

It was unclear whether the smugglers were on the Syrian or Turkish side of the border.

After stopping the smugglers, the troops then came under rifle fire from the village, the Turkish military said in a statement.

The smugglers, which included up to 1,000 people on foot, 150 on horses and 40 vehicles, fled the scene, leaving behind 35 diesel drums.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2013/08/16/Turkish-troops-fired-at-after-stopping-smugglers/UPI-17011376671787/#ixzz2c9j6N7XE

August 16th, 2013, 1:54 pm

 

Alan said:

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http://arabic.rt.com/news/624326/ :????? ?????

August 16th, 2013, 1:55 pm

 

zoo said:

Jordan is hosting a Saudi war operation room against Syria and is clearly an accomplice in the smuggling of heavy weapons bought by the Saudi money for the Islamists rebels on the Syria-Jordan borders. The squeezed little king is playing with fire

http://www.abna.co/data.asp?lang=3&id=452274

Experts also noted there are signs that recent deliveries may be the start of a major supply line to southern Syria led by Saudi Arabia, a key U.S. ally and foremost of several regional countries supporting the militants in Syria.

The report posted on The Daily Star stated also that “Middle Eastern security, rebel and diplomatic sources cite the hands-on role of Prince Salman bin Sultan, a nephew of Saudi King Abdullah and senior security official. Salman heads an operations room in Amman with allies, regularly meeting and instructing top Syrian operatives.”

“Even before the first shipment of Konkurs, Salman’s pressure on Amman secured the supply of rocket launchers and other lethal equipment, they said, a step up from previous supplies from Jordan which rebels complained consisted mainly of surplus ammunition and rudimentary AK-47 rifles,” it added.

It follows close Saudi-American-Jordanian intelligence coordination to vet and track weapons to keep them out of “the wrong hands” of “Islamist fighters,” a regional diplomatic source and an Arab security source told Reuters.

August 16th, 2013, 2:02 pm

 

zoo said:

The double language of the Saudis: While actively backing ‘terrorisms’ against Syria’s rulers, Saudi king backs Egypt’s rulers against ‘terrorism’

Saudi King Badullah says the Arab Gulf country stands by Egypt ‘against terrorism’

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/79223/Egypt/Politics-/Saudi-king-backs-Egypts-rulers-against-terrorism.aspx

Saudi King Abdullah called on Arabs on Friday to stand together against “attempts to destabilize” Egypt, in a message of support for the military leadership and an attack on the Muslim Brotherhood.

“The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, its people and government, stood and stands today with its brothers in Egypt against terrorism,” he said in a message read out on Saudi television, in an apparent reference to continuing clashes between the Muslim Brotherhood and police.

“I call on the honest men of Egypt and the Arab and Muslim nations … to stand as one man and with one heart in the face of attempts to destabilize a country that is at the forefront of Arab and Muslim history,” he added.

August 16th, 2013, 2:13 pm

 

zoo said:

The USA and EU are a bind: their Arab oil-rich allies (except Qatar) are totally supportive of the crackdown on the Moslem Brotherhood and are 100% behind the Egyptian military despite the death toll.
The UNSC will be paralyzed and the USA amd EU will have just to watch the civil war danger growing in Egypt without being able to do much.
As for Syria, there are no neutral outsider who could bring the crisis to its end. We will see the threat of the usual western tools: sanctions and the poisonous interference of all neighbors.
Israel is in a state of intense anxiety, as if the West turns its back to Egypt’s new rulers and impose sanctions, the Egypt-Israel will be threatened of cancellation.
Syria is becoming a lower priority…

August 16th, 2013, 2:26 pm

 

zoo said:

Hezbollah Leader Nasrallah accuses and warn the Takfirists about the terror acts on civilians in Lebanon

According to Nasrallah, the members of these groups are of Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian origin. “All the evidence shows that these groups have committed the attack on Roueiss Thursday, he added. It is certain that these groups are paid by Israel and its allies.”
….
The Shiite leader also called on his supporters to exercise restraint. “Criminals want you to believe that Sunnis are responsible, he said. These Takfirist criminals want to provoke a sectarian conflict. Do not fall into the trap, do not attack innocent people who have nothing to do (with the bombing). Syrian and Palestinian refugees are not responsible, your fellow Sunnis are not responsible for these crimes, “he stressed. “The attacks and killings will not lead us to the dissent,” he further said.

Shiite leader nevertheless launched a serious warning to the perpetrators.

“We will win the battle against the Takfirists, he promised. If you work for Israel, there is no problem, we’ll find you one day or another. But if you claim to defend the Syrian people and we are punished for our involvement in Syria I would say two things: you are the most violent groups against the Syrian people, you kill the religious Christian opposition, you execute the children, you attack the mosques and secondly you do not defend the Syrian people, “he said.

http://www.lorientlejour.com/article/828198/attentat-de-roueiss-nasrallah-accuse-des-takfiristes-a-la-solde-disrael.html

August 16th, 2013, 2:42 pm

 

Badr said:

An intelligent political and cultural conversation with Yassin al-Haj Saleh

alraimedia.com
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Here is my translation of a few ideas expressed by him:

I’d rather talk about a cultural revolution, i.e. a revolution at the level of conscience and morality, and at the level of sensitivity and imagination, as well as the grade of knowledge and thinking, and as a result, it will be possible to make the necessary break with the past, and to demote the cultural heritage to a lower rank.

We can not say then, that Islam does not change and has not changed. In fact, it keeps on changing. There is constantly an unconscious restructuring for it, driven by the needs of Muslims, highlighting principles which were less visible, and setting aside others that were prevailing.

I think that what happened in Egypt offended the Egyptian revolution a lot, and complicated the political and intellectual development there. It was a coup not only agaist the Muslim Brotherhood, but also the millions who objected to their rule. It is more of a coup against the latter rather than the former. The Egyptian Islamists were on the road to failure, but the coup rescued them. Then it returned them to the victim role, and is revitalizing their grievances. The most important gain from the rule of Egyptian Islamists was its erosion by their transition from the oppressed to the oppressor. The Egyptian popular protests against the rule of Muslim Brotherhood deserved what was better than a military coup, and a dishonorable political and ideological performance of the Egyptian opposition.

If it is meant for Syria to be formed as a national state, the first thing needed is a separation of the state from the clan, or liberating the state from the clan. This is the essence of the Syrian revolution.

August 16th, 2013, 2:48 pm

 

syrian said:

The mafia regime in one of his daily massacres hit one of Aleppo residential areas today, killing at least 40 civilains.So far it didn’t make any of the major news outlets, and don’t expect those “Syrians’wailing about the 20 Lebanese to even mention it.
( lots of pictures included in the link)

http://www.aksalser.com/?page=view_articles&id=e612c8ae6e07d66d2a9ada7ad610268d&ar=44628039

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August 16th, 2013, 3:25 pm

 

Tara said:

Regimists and friends on SC must rejoice, 40+ all civilians”Sunnis terrorists” less on earth….

A step closer to complete extermination of civilan “Sunni terrorists”

August 16th, 2013, 4:38 pm

 

revenire said:

Nasrallah blames Takfiri groups for deadly Beirut car bomb attack

Hezbollah Secretary-General Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah has blamed Takfiri groups for a car bomb attack which left 24 people dead in southern Beirut.

Addressing thousands of Hezbollah supporters on the occasion of the end of the group’s 33-day 2006 war with Israel in the southern village of Aita al-Shaab, Nasrallah said on Friday that according to investigations carried out by the resistance movement, Takfiri groups are behind the recent deadly attacks in Lebanon.

He added that those carrying out the attacks were not Israeli spies, but stressed that it is clear that US and Israeli intelligence agencies have infiltrated into these Takfiri groups and are using them to achieve their own goals.

He also told the Lebanese that anyone who thinks that the Takfiri groups only target Shias is wrong, adding that they kill Sunnis, Shias and Christians the same because they “are killers who do not belong to any religion or sect.”

Nasrallah also rejected allegations that the Thursday attack was a punishment and a response to Hezbollah’s support for the Syrian government, adding that Takfiri groups are trying to destroy Lebanon and push the country into a civil war.

He addressed those behind recent wave of attacks in Lebanon, saying that nothing can change Hezbollah’s path and the resistance group will continue its support for the Syrian government. He said such attacks would only reinforce Hezbollah’s determination to fight Takfiri groups in Syria.

“Our response to any such bombing is that we will double our fighters in Syria. If before the attacks we had 100 fighters in Syria after these attacks we will make it 200 ….,” Nasrallah said.

Nasrallah added that if necessary he and all the group’s members are ready to go to Syria to fight against Takfiri groups.

“I will go myself to Syria if it is so necessary in the battle against the Takfiris,” Hezbollah leader noted.

He told Takfiri groups that “if you want to start a war with us, we are ready, and as we achieved victory in all our wars with Israel, we will defeat you, we have the final say.”

August 16th, 2013, 5:18 pm

 

Tara said:

Sisi is criminal and should be executed for killing civilians.

August 16th, 2013, 5:37 pm

 

Sami said:

Badr,

Thanks for sharing Yassin Hajj Saleh’s latest, he’s as usual very informative and runs counter to all the rather pathetic rhetoric regimists try to paint all those that oppose Assad and the barbarianism that grew as a byproduct if this heinous regime.

August 16th, 2013, 6:19 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

There is no difference between Sisi and Assad, both are criminals.

Zoo is rejoicing the death of Sunnis at the hands of the Barbaric persian regime of Assad

Now you ask those criminal supporters for response they will say IF and if, if this is true, they cry for detention of few Alawis and rejoice for killing Sunnis, stupid double standard

August 16th, 2013, 6:23 pm

 

Syrian said:

While making funny comments,2 guys in the Latakia mountains filming Assad’s militias running away from the important town of Biet Shakohi using buses, taxis,ambulances buses and on foot.
http://youtu.be/oo7iOBSjsY0

August 16th, 2013, 6:46 pm

 

habib said:

So where are the calls for arming the pro-democracy Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt?

Or is it not a problem when the government killing them are Sunnis too?

Why are we not seeing Zionist and western Salafist clowns flooding Egyptian Internet fora yapping about democracy?

August 16th, 2013, 7:07 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

WWW, thank you syrian

August 16th, 2013, 7:20 pm

 
 

Syrians said:

You forgot to finish with 3 claps then shouting ?????

August 16th, 2013, 8:33 pm

 

Tara said:

I bet that Assad in Sep 2014 wil no longer be the president of Syria.

August 16th, 2013, 8:33 pm

 

Syrian said:

You’re welcome Majed.

BTW 462 was for Habib.

August 16th, 2013, 8:56 pm

 

Ghufran said:

There is no doubt that the regime committed and continue to commit atrocities and a lot of civilians are getting killed for nothing. Only naive people believed that a war can be clean and glamorous, this is why this war should not have started in the first place. It is true that the regime is the top culprit when it comes to civilian casualties but that is half of the story, the other half that many of you CHOSE to ignore is the fact that inviting foreign jihadists was a choice and invading Aleppo and hiding in civilian areas was a choice too. The unforgivable strategic mistakes made by Syrian rebels in these two areas, among others, are now openly being discussed in western media but they are rarely discussed in Arab media because denial and pride are two loved qualities of the Arab psyche, these qualities are not limited to the rebels, you can easily see that in much of the pro Assad media discussions. I think ,especially after Egypt, it is abundantly clear that this disease is not limited to Syria, Sunni or Shia. Enjoy the wreckage and keep pretending that your misery is somebody’s else fault, ignore Libya ( the liberated) and Israel’s gradual but steady domination of the Middle East and give yourself a dose of tranquility by talking about Hizb al- shi’a tan, those evil Shia then come back and try to explain the position of his majesty the king of ksa ( and most gcc rulers) about egypt, then come back and make threats and predictions that will only certify your status as a helpless and confused soul, this is not a good time to be an Arab or a Muslim, we are now the butts of jokes of every nation.
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August 16th, 2013, 9:13 pm

 

Sami said:

Tara,

Only in the crosseyed view of minhebaks Assad is president, to the rest he is nothing but a thug wearing raybans in a fancy suit.

August 16th, 2013, 9:51 pm

 

don said:

How did today’s “Friday Of Rage” go?

What’s next Friday’s slogan?

Battles across Egypt, and alarmed comparisons to Syria and Iraq

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2013/0816/Battles-across-Egypt-and-alarmed-comparisons-to-Syria-and-Iraq

August 16th, 2013, 10:41 pm

 

don said:

Is Egypt the New Syria?

Is Egypt the new Syria? Will it become a country not only at war with itself, but a battlefield attracting combatants from all over the Muslim World?

It has that sad potential.

We wanted elections and the Egyptian people elected a party that promised moderation and inclusiveness and instead arrested dissenters, purged military leaders, marginalized other parties and supported further persecution of Coptic Christians.

Democracy is not about destroying the losing party and jailing its supporters. Democracy is the peaceful transfer of power from one party to the next. After two or three times, you may have a democracy. Morsi’s election was not proof of democracy but a first (and likely last) step in that direction.

In Egypt, Mubarak was replaced by the military. Then Morsi declared a quiet war on the military — the only fully functioning institution in Egypt. So, the generals overthrew him, both to protect themselves and to keep Egypt from drifting rapidly toward hard-line Islamist policies. The Brotherhood was better in opposition and not in power. Outside they could be idealistic and inclusive. Their promises could be grand and proposed solutions attractive. But once in power, they chose not to govern but to rule. They utterly failed and alienated many former supporters.

http://www.dailynews.com/opinion/20130816/is-egypt-the-new-syria-jonathan-dobrer

August 16th, 2013, 10:59 pm

 

Ghufran said:

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22/ 28 women and 12/43 were Syrian. MTV was quick to point out that most of the accused prostitutes were Syrian women because that fits in the popular theme of ” those evil Syrians”, the fact that Beirut has been a haven for pervert khaliji sheikhs and the capital of prostitution in the Arab world since the 1960s seems irrelevant to the “sexful” tv station.
Public resentment against Syrian refugees is not limited to Lebanon, it is now strong in Egypt and Jordan.

August 16th, 2013, 11:00 pm

 

zoo said:

The hypocrite snake Erdogan is cornered and must decrease his support for the Islamist terrorists, while Jordan is taking over that vicious role

Ankara Reconsiders Backing for Islamist Syrian Rebels

http://www.voanews.com/content/turkey-reconsiders-backing-for-islamist-syrian-rebels/1731395.html

August 16th, 2013, 11:06 pm

 

zoo said:

Crisis spurs Islamist call to arms across region

Article by: ERNESTO LONDONO , Washington Post
Updated: August 16, 2013 – 9:48 PM
http://www.startribune.com/world/220007351.html

Jihadists in the Middle East and beyond are moving to capitalize on the political crisis in Egypt, arguing that the crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood vindicates their long-espoused view that democracy is a dangerous proposition.

As blood has poured down Egyptian streets and civilians have clashed with security forces, a chorus of Islamists have urged Egyptians to embrace violence to further their political goals.

The call to arms has the potential to fuel hard-line military movements that have taken root in Egypt’s Sinai region and could prompt rank-and-file Muslim Brotherhood members to break with their group’s pledge of nonviolence. The prospect of further radicalization, analysts warn, threatens to undermine a key U.S. goal in the region: drowning out extremist voices by boosting moderate, democratic ones.

Extremists “couldn’t have wished for a better example of how democracy doesn’t work,” said Rita Katz, the director of SITE Intelligence Group, which tracks jihadi groups. “Muslim Brotherhood members feel especially vulnerable now. They feel that they have been cheated. Radical rhetoric will likely be more acceptable to them now than before.”

August 16th, 2013, 11:12 pm

 

zoo said:

Aren’t the Egyptian army soldiers Sunnis and aren’t they killing others Sunnis?
Strange, according to our specialists on SC, they claimed that that only “wicked Alawites”, “heretics Shias” and ‘barbaric Persian” would kill Sunnis.

August 16th, 2013, 11:21 pm

 

revenire said:

Exactly. And, it isn’t because this Syrian war is a sectarian war. The Takfiris kill more Sunni than anyone.

Sayyed Nasrallah to Takfiris: We will Capture You, We will Put an End to Terror

“If you claim you are defending the Syrian people and punishing Hezbollah over its intervention in Syria, I tell you two things: You, the Takfiri groups are the harshest killers of the Syrian people. You even kidnapped and killed Christian priests who supported the opposition. You kill children and explode mosques.”

“As for us, we fight with our values. We have never killed a captive, while you prosecute captives in daylight. We have never killed citizens, and in some of our battles, a larger number of martyrs fell in order to protect citizens, and all what is said about massacres committed by us are lies and fabrications.”

Criticizing the fabrications of some Arab media stations, he assured that “the world will witness that we have only fought Takfiri groups in Syria.”

Finally, Sayyed Nasrallah said: “One of our responses to such explosions is: If we had 1000 fighters in Syria, they will become 2000, and if we had 5000, they will become 10 000, and if the battle with those terrorists required that I go with all Hezbollah to Syria, we will all go for the sake of Syria and its people, Lebanon and its people, Palestine and Al-Quds, and the central cause.”

“We put an end to the battle, and we set a time for this battle to end, and as we triumphed in all our wars with Israel, if you wanted us to enter a fierce battle with you, I assure to everyone that we will triumph against Takfiri terror. The cost of the battle will be high, but the least cost is being slaughtered like ewes and waiting for the murderers to come into our house.”

August 16th, 2013, 11:30 pm

 

zoo said:

“My greatest fear seems to have come true,” the activist says. “The Egyptians no longer see the authorities as their opponents. The enemy is now those Egyptians with other views.”

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/egyptian-elite-succumb-to-hate-virus-a-916921.html

August 16th, 2013, 11:32 pm

 

zoo said:

Revenire

An extraordinary powerful speech from Seyyed Nasrallah. Just compare it to the hysteric nonsense of pathetic Erdogan.

August 16th, 2013, 11:34 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Egypt is in turmoil, the only solution is that all sides accept the return to voting booths,this could bring back the MB back, but all sides must respect democracy, otherwise Egypt will fail and radicals from all sides will flock to Egypt,Sisi must resign, and leave Egypt, a military coup is expected,to oust him.free election, and true democracy is the solution.

US can not deal with turmoil in several countries, a quick solution to Syria is needed.

KSA made mistake

August 16th, 2013, 11:50 pm

 

Syrian said:

Zoo
in a country that is 85 millions with a fully secular army you will find enough Sunnis to kill Sunnis, but even at that as your friend apple mini said the numbers are not off the charts so far .because if you take the ratio of the Egypt population to that of Syria. You will have to wait until half a million to 600 thousands Egyptians get killed to start taking the blame off your supporters.

August 16th, 2013, 11:52 pm

 

Syrian said:

What is missing in Ghffran long story @462? is the huge role Iran have in the misery of the Syrians.
By accident or by design he never mentions the billions Iran has spent to support Assad. If it was not for Iran,the Assad regime would have collapsed way before the Islamist came in to Syria.
When it come to why Saudi support Syria revolution while it support the army in Egypt, this is just their own interest and not out of their hate to Assad himself, they worked with his father and had an alliance with him, but the idiot son who did not know how to play the game decided to sell Syria in full to Iran.even going as far as supporting Alqaeda to fight the Americans in Iraq which his father would have never done. on the contrary the father joined the American in 1992 got $3 billion in cash and a whole country to play with called Lebanon while still getting oil from Iran at half price.
so the Saudis are not helping because they love the Syrians but because they hate the idiocy of Bashaer who let Iran and HA controls him like an idiot that he is.

August 16th, 2013, 11:57 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Hassan Nasrallah, the head of the most criminal organization in the middle East said he wants to send more troops to fight Syrians.
He is shouting and yelling as a very crazy terrorist, He would not do that except that he has lost several members, they fell non martyrs, can he send 20,000,leave him unprotected in his Beirut suburb, Syria will be the cemetry for those HA terrorist.
Listen to him he talks nonsense,one day blame Israel for the terrorist attack, next day he blames Sunni,I don’t think he reads Quraan,God in Souret Zumer called his people infidels liers, and now he is mad man,he needs to be put in mental institution.

August 17th, 2013, 12:29 am

 

zoo said:

Syrian

“so the Saudis are not helping because they love the Syrians but because they hate the idiocy of Bashaer who let Iran and HA controls him like an idiot that he is.”

The Saudis are helping because they are panicking as the days of the Saud ruling family seem counted and Iran’s Shias and Turkey moderate sunnis are becoming more threatening to KSA’s monopoly on Islam.

Their efforts both in Syria to encourage terrorists and in Egypt to fight terrorists are doomed. They are like someone drowning, hitting in the air many direction in total incoherence and indifference toward human casualties.

August 17th, 2013, 12:31 am

 

Syrian said:

Zoo
That might be on long term, but will the regime last till then ?
The price of Syria for the big powers to let it go to Iran is its nuclear program,
Is Iran willing to pay that price for Syria While Salafi Pakistan already have it?
That is what is it all boiled down to,

Me personally I think the Iranian the ever merchants will try to get both. With the nuclear program as their # 1 goal and Syria their 2nd.
Ask for us your friends how long are they from their#1 goal?

August 17th, 2013, 1:16 am

 

Mina said:

Zero-problem policy of Erdogan: add a few zeros and a unit number.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria-rebels-move-hq-from-egypt-to-turkey.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52699&NewsCatID=352
“The headquarters of the Syrian National Coalition (SNC) is being transferred from Egypt to Turkey, as the new administration that toppled President Mohamed Morsi has limited the movements of the Syrian opposition, according to the coalition’s Turkey representative. (…)”

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/egypts-envoy-to-turkey-warns-of-economic-impacts-of-ankaras-posture.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52710&NewsCatID=352
“Salahaddin stressed that the statements made by Turkish officials were not “making a good impression” in Cairo, adding that this posture could well disrupt not only Turkey’s economic ties with Egypt, but also its relations with the Gulf countries.”

August 17th, 2013, 4:21 am

 

Alan said:

The Syrian Army has made more gains against foreign-backed militants during operations in the west of the country, killing a top militant commander Walid Oweissi of Libyan nationality
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/16/319092/syrian-army-says-has-made-more-gains/

August 17th, 2013, 6:51 am

 

don said:

Wow Mina! Eye opening explosive material! Thank you

August 17th, 2013, 6:52 am

 

Alan said:

/Hassan Nasrallah, the head of the most criminal organization in the middle East/.
Are you a spokesman for Israel?

The US battles “Islamists” in Afghanistan while arming and funding them in Syria. They are pawns in the Illuminati’s Great Game
http://henrymakow.com/2013/08/Bin-Laden-Hamas-Islamists-CIA-Mossad-Tools%20.html

August 17th, 2013, 7:02 am

 

don said:

CNN call it “Friday Of Rage”, and BBC call it “Friday Of Anger”. Which one is right? What’s next Friday theme in Egypt please?
Thank you

August 17th, 2013, 7:12 am

 

Alan said:

Israel considers the Lebanese resistance as the strongest enemy near borders. Moreover, military viz-a-viz war was not effective to destroy Lebanese resistance since 1982. Meanwhile, regional sectarian conflict is the most effective method for the US administration, Israel as well as Saudi royal family to weaken and even destroy their enemies, including Lebanese resistance. From military and political views, US-Israel-GCC axis believes that internal chaos in Lebanon will scatter Hezbollah’s military capabilities and the resistance will no longer able to resist Israel as well as to support Syrian regime and so the party will be local Shiite militia versus Sunni militia leaded by Lebanese Sunni Hariri dynasty.
Hezbollah alongside Syrian regime defeated Syrian rebels in al-Qusayr battle, months ago to likely outweigh Syrian Army against anti-government rebels in Syria’s battle, so the US-GCC axis seeks to stop Hezbollah and subsequently defeat Syrian regime.
Saudi dynasty excluded Qatari-backed Syrian opponents of what-so-called ‘Syrian Coalition for opposition’ to appoint Ahmad al-Jarba, who is affiliated to Saudi dynasty. As political indicator for rising Saudi influence over Syrian opposition on the expense of Qatari influence. Furthermore, Saudi dynasty supports Michel Kilou, Syrian opponent who is introduced as secular democratic personnel heading one of opposition bloc in Syrian Coalition for opposition. Bandar Ben Sultan, former Saudi Ambassador in Washington, DC and one of close George W. Bush friends and previously served Saudi intelligence has come back years later to head Saudi intelligence. Many reliable articles exposed his role in Iraq. He supported al-Qaeda-affiliated groups to fight shiite militias and subsequently to face the Iranian influence. Moreover, He has experience in Lebanon through political and sectarian assassinations. In addition, Saudi dynasty lost one of its strongest security men, Wisam Al-Hassan, the head of Lebanese information branch and he was responsible for sending foreign fighters to Syria as well as offering logistic facilities side-by-side with Oqab Saqr, one of Hariri-affiliated Al-Mustakbal parliamentary bloc.
Unknown Salafist group claimed responsibility for Bombing .
Conclusion:

Israel as well as Saudi dynasty have the strongest reason to attack Hezbollah popular base via Salafist (Wahhabi) group. Saudi prince, Bandar Ben Sultan the head of Saudi intelligence has previous experience in Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://arabworld360.com/2013/08/16/analysis-beiruts-bombing

August 17th, 2013, 7:13 am

 

don said:

Al-Qaeda loyalist rebels! Hmmm Looks like AFP is changing it’s tune!

17 dead as Qaeda attacks Syria Kurd town: watchdog

BEIRUT (AFP) – Al-Qaeda loyalists attacked a mainly Kurdish town in northeastern Syria sparking fighting in which 17 people were killed, two of them ambulance crew, a watchdog said on Saturday.

The assault on the strategic border town of Ras al-Ain, from which the jihadists were expelled by Kurdish militia last month, sparked an exodus of civilians into neighbouring Turkey, an activist said.

The attack on the town was part of a wider offensive by Al-Qaeda against several Kurdish majority areas of northern and northeastern Syria that began on Friday and was continuing on Saturday, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

Four Kurdish militiamen and 11 jihadists made up the rest of the dead, the watchdog said.

Syrian Kurd activist Havidar said civilians had fled “in waves into villages in Turkey.”

“Intermittent clashes are continuing to take place till now, in the Asfar Najjar area and the outskirts of Tal Halaf,” Havidar told AFP via the Internet.

Elsewhere in Syria, rebels attacked a pro-regime militia checkpoint in a majority Christian area of Homs province, killing six civilians and five militiamen, the Observatory said.

State news agency SANA said all those killed were civilians, and described the attackers as “terrorists”.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/17/17-dead-as-qaeda-attacks-syria-kurd-town-watchdog/

August 17th, 2013, 10:13 am

 

revenire said:

It sure looks like Egypt has come back to Syria.

If the US attacks Syria I expect Egypt to send support to Syria.

If I were a Syrian, and a traitor, and I was in Egypt right now I’d be very, very careful. You could end up arrested, or worse.

August 17th, 2013, 10:26 am

 

zoo said:

#484 Syrian

Iran will never renounce to developing nuclear technology for civil usage even it frightens the West. This policy is supported by all the Iranians.
The USA is worried about the nuclear in Iran exclusively because they think it will weaken Israel’s deterrence capabilities against its regional enemies. The West has applied no sanctions on Pakistan and India because these two countries are no threat to Israel.
Iran has been under heavy sanctions for more than 25 years, a few more years won’t make a difference especially that the USA is now hated by most Arab countries after their messy foreign policy in the region and their blind support for a rogue state, Israel.
You are right, I don’t see why Iran will not pursue their nuclear and energetic goals while remaining loyal to their long time friends, Syria and Hezbollah. After boosting and then swiftly dumping their friendly dictators in the region, the USA has shown that they are no loyal friends to count on in time of trouble, their only loyalty is to Israel, for the rest, especially the Middle East, they are just opportunists.

August 17th, 2013, 10:27 am

 

zoo said:

Alan

I agree. Saudi are so terrified and humiliated by the growing power of Iran and the Shias that they will use even Satan himself to stop that.
Their support for Al Qaeeda is obvious. They have done that in Afghanistan to get rid of the atheist Soviets and replace them by ‘friendly’ sunni Talibans.
They don’t care if people die, they want to stop the Shias wave at any cost. They share that goal with the USA and Israel. This is why they are cooperating with them on weakening Syria, Iran and the Hezbollah.
Only time will tell if they are not underestimating Iran’s capabilities to retaliate by creating trouble for the Saudi and its allies in the region.

August 17th, 2013, 10:44 am

 

don said:

Shooting unsuspecting unarmed civilians after midnight a trademark of the lowest form of religious hate

Attacks on Syria Christian towns ‘kill 11’

GUNMEN have shot dead 11 people, mostly Christians, in central Syria, the state-run news agency and opposition activists say.

The opposition Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said nine of those killed were Christians.

SANA said the attack occurred after midnight on Saturday on a road linking the Christian villages of Ein al-Ajouz and Nasrah in the central province of Homs.

Christians, who make up about 10 per cent of Syria’s population, say they are particularly vulnerable to the violence sweeping the country of 22 million people.

A resident in the area told the Associated Press that the gunmen randomly opened fire on a street as Christians were celebrating a feast day.

He spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

The witness said many of the dead were refugees from the central city of Homs, which witnessed heavy clashes between rebels and troops over the past two years.

Tens of thousands of Christians left downtown districts in Syria’s third largest city because of the fighting.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/attacks-on-syria-christian-towns-kill-11/story-fn3dxix6-1226699051931

August 17th, 2013, 11:03 am

 

don said:

Norway: Man detained for raising Syria money

Oslo: A man has been detained in Oslo on suspicion of raising money for Syria which could have gone to a terrorist group, Norway’s domestic intelligence service said on Saturday.

Martin Bernsen, a spokesman for the police security service, said the man was detained yesterday and released, though he remains a suspect and faces a preliminary charge of financially supporting a terror organisation. Preliminary charges are a step short of formal charges and a conviction on that charge carries a maximum prison sentence of six years.

“We are worried that the money that is gathered and send to Syria could end in the hands of al Qaeda or al Qaeda- related persons,” Bernsen said. “Every year, large sums leave the country. We are talking about millions.”

Police did not identify the suspect, but Norwegian broadcaster TV2 said he was Farid Bendriss of the Al Furqan Relief group.

The organisation said on Facebook that police seized 300,000.00 kroner (USD 50,730.00) yesterday. Bernsen declined to comment.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/norway-man-detained-for-raising-syria-money_869743.html

August 17th, 2013, 11:14 am

 

Juergen said:

I am sorry to hear Father Paolos fate is still unclear, the worst has to be expected.

Syria: Hopes for Jesuit Priest Paolo Dall’Oglio Fade as Death Reported by Human Rights Activists

“Hopes for the safe return of a Jesuit missionary abducted in Syria last month have dramatically receded, after his killing was reported by a prominent activist group.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights claims Father Paolo Dall’Oglio has been executed by jihadist rebels in the city of ar-Raqqah, although the Italian foreign ministry has still not confirmed the report.”

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/499085/20130814/jesuit-father-paolo-dall-oglio-death-confirmed.htm

August 17th, 2013, 11:15 am

 

revenire said:

Juergen when you lie down with snakes don’t be surprised if you’re bitten.

Your friends murdered this deranged priest. No getting around that.

August 17th, 2013, 11:37 am

 

Alan said:

491. ZOO
Al-Saud, descendants of Mordechai Ben Avraham Ben Moshe Eldonma?

August 17th, 2013, 11:40 am

 

revenire said:

Isn’t it funny how the terrorists barricade themselves in mosques and when the army (be it Egypt or Syria) clears the mosque we hear cries of massacre?

The Brothers in Egypt are not true Muslims.

August 17th, 2013, 11:43 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Persia HA and .Assad regime are the Barbaric persian alliance, anyone that supports them is criminal terrorist.

Juergen
If Paolo is dead the ISIS must be fought with all possible force, they are terrorist organization,just like HA

Revenir is calling for Egypt to send troops to fight along Assad forces, there is nothing sillier than this idea

August 17th, 2013, 11:44 am

 

Alan said:

Americans will soon be locked into an unaccountable police state unless US Representatives and Senators find the courage to ask questions and to sanction the executive branch officials who break the law, violate the Constitution, withhold information from Congress, and give false information about their crimes against law, the Constitution, the American people and those in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Guantanamo, and elsewhere. Congress needs to use the impeachment power that the Constitution provides and cease being subservient to the lawless executive branch. The US faces no threat that justifies the lawlessness and abuse of police powers that characterize the executive branch in the 21st century./../…
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/14-08-2013/125382-humanity_drowning_washington_criminality-0/

August 17th, 2013, 11:45 am

 

revenire said:

Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahri’s younger brother arrested in Egypt, sources say

CAIRO – The brother of al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahri has been arrested by police in Egypt, security sources said Saturday.

Mohammed al-Zawahri, the younger brother of the terror network leader, was detained at a checkpoint in the Cairo suburb of Giza, the sources said.He has been a vocal supporter of ousted President Mohammed Morsi,

Morsi’s Muslim Brotherhood movement and the more extreme group to which he belongs, Al Gama’a Al Islamiya.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/17/20064539-al-qaeda-leader-ayman-al-zawahris-younger-brother-arrested-in-egypt-sources-say?lite

Al-Zawahiri’s brother arrested by Egyptian authorities

CAIRO: Egyptian authorities have arrested the brother of al-Qaeda chief Aymanal-Zawahiri for backing ousted President Mohammed Morsi, an official said today.

Mohamed al-Zawahiri, leader of the ultraconservative Jihadi Salafist group, was arrested in a sweep in Cairo, a high-level security source at the Interior Ministry was quoted as saying by state-run MENA news agency.

His group was allied with ousted President Morsi, whose supporters are protesting the removal of the elected government by the army on July 3.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/al-zawahiris-brother-arrested-by-egyptian-authorities/articleshow/21882293.cms

August 17th, 2013, 11:48 am

 

revenire said:

Majed Syria and Egypt fought together several times against the Zionists.

Today the Zionists are attacking Syria, using Takfiris. The same Takfiris are attacking Egypt. Why wouldn’t Egypt come to the aid of Syria if Washington intervened to aid their Takfiri allies? That is far more plausible than your fevered dream of a million Egyptians coming to help your Takfiri friends.

The SNC is leaving Egypt – they are no longer welcome. Its Egyptian allies are being arrested by the patriotic Egyptian military. The Egyptian people support the Egyptian army.

August 17th, 2013, 11:52 am

 

apple_mini said:

The attack and killing of 11 people in Wadi Al-Nasara in rural Talkalah are pushing more support to the regime.

There were some Christian militias among the dead, but they were never engaged in any active fighting with the rebels. They were there simply guarding their neighborhood.

Do the opposition and the rebels always claim they started to pick up weapons and fight in the first place was because the regime and SAA attacked their neighborhood?

Several weeks ago, it was Alawite villages under attack by the rebels. And now a Christian neighborhood which used to be relatively quiet and free from any violence.

Peace through negotiation is one thing. Under current situation, a real peace can only be achieved by eliminating those insurgents and cutting off their backing.

August 17th, 2013, 11:55 am

 

Sami said:

How can one talk about peace only to end his sentence with eliminate?

You have to be some really sick minded person to intertwine peace with genocidial rhetoric.

Can this wretched person that denies massacres get any worse!

August 17th, 2013, 12:02 pm

 

revenire said:

Sami peace will come when all the Takfiris are neutralized.

August 17th, 2013, 12:39 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Looks like the crackdown in Egypt is a gambit. The army and the new government are determined to hit the MB to go underground.

In a nutshell, it is fighting for power, only this time the majority hate MB and Islamists in general.

Egyptian army took the risk but their strength and favorable position by the major backers can guarantee their objectives will be accomplished.

Syria does not have those advantages. But since the ME is getting messier and bloodier, the smaller fish might have higher chance to survive in muddy water.

August 17th, 2013, 12:42 pm

 
 

zoo said:

Will the Egyptian Moslem Brotherhood and their supporters be crushed for good like they were in Hama in 1982?

August 17th, 2013, 1:11 pm

 
 

Mina said:

Zoo, #507
Bi izni Llah! (but not like in Hama, no need)

August 17th, 2013, 1:51 pm

 

ghufran said:

A late confession by a thawraji sheikh, Muhammad Dahman:
“??????” ????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????? ????? ? ???? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ? ???? ?????? ??????? ??????? .
Early attacks on security forces and the army in Syria are well documented and the evidence is irrefutable, that does not exonerate the regime but it helps explain why the rebellion in Syria failed to win public support.
????? ???? ???? ????? ? ???? ???? ?????? ? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ???? “??????” ???? :
“??? ??? ?????? ????? ??????? ??? ??? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ??????? ??? ??? . ???? ???? ??????? ???????? ?????? ?????? . ???? ???? ??????? ??????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???????? : ??? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? (???) ????? ??????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ???? …. ????? ??? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?? ?????? ???????? ??? ???? ?????? ??????? ???? . ??? ??? ??????? ?????? ?? ??? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ?? ??? ?? ??????? ???????? ? ??? ?? ??????? ????? ????? ?? ??? …. ????? ??????? …. ????? ???????”
On the issue of attacking “secular armies” in Syria, Egypt and Algeria:
?????? ?? ???? ??? ?????? ?????? .. ?? ?? ?????? ????????? ????????” ??? ?? ???? ????? : ?? ????? ??? : ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ??????? .. ?? ?? ?? ? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???? ???? .. ?? ???? ???? ????? .. ?? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ?? ?? ??? ???? ????? .??? ???? ?? ????? ?? ?? ???? ????? .. ???? ??? ???? ? ????? ????” .
The claim that this is a war by shia against sunni fell apart when the MB and islamist terrorists started burning buildings in Cairo and shooting at the Egyptian army, the situation is bad enough in Egypt that the MB may be declared as an illegal party by the new regime in Egypt, something the Syrian regime did in the 1980s.

August 17th, 2013, 1:53 pm

 

syrian said:

ZOO @490
In relation to the situation in Syria,the nature of Iran nuclear program is of no importance at this point. the west doesnt belive Iran and that what matter.
India and Pakistan were not signatory to the nuclear treaty, Pakistan was under heavy sanction, but 9/11 saved them,Iran for the last 25 years was only under sanction from the US, while the EU till this year and the rest of the world had normal relation with Iran.
In the end,if what you are saying that Iran will go ahead with it nuclear program, then Saudi arabia and Turkey has a better chance in winning in Syria, because we all agree that the west will not allow Iran with nukes to have influence at Israel border.
your dilemma is having to support Assad Jr who screwed up everything his father has built and your future is hanged on the value of Syria to Iran,

August 17th, 2013, 1:53 pm

 

don said:

The new axis of evil: Israel, Saudi Arabia and the Neo-Cons

August 17th, 2013, 2:15 pm

 

zoo said:

#514 Syrian

I don’t see how Saudi Arabia and Turkey have a better chance to win in Syria. They hate each other and Saudi will never allow Turkey to have any influence in an Arab country. They have totally opposite visions on the region political future. On Egypt they are openly divergent, and on Syria as well.

Saudi Arabia has failed everywhere it intervened. Yemen is a total mess, Bahrain a time bomb, Iraq a mess and Lebanon shaky. The Saudis are as dumb politically as the Qataris.
While Saudi Arabia is in a state of panic and Erdogan worried about the mess that his policy in Syria has caused to his popularity, Iran is politically stable and will surely improve economically as it is adapting to the sanctions as it did for 25 years.
I have no dilemma at all, for me it is clear like water. Iran is getting stronger by the day as the Arab countries are crumbling in internal disorders and Turkey is shaken by its loss of leadership in the Arab countries. Now in Egypt Sunnis are killing other Sunnis. That’s a new element that proves to me that the unity and the coherence of the Shias under Iran’s and Iraq’s leadership will be rewarded while the Sunnis divisions will weaken them further and with them the two heads of the Sunnis in the region, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. As Syria’s government is aligned with Iran, it will come out winner, despite KSA efforts to counter that.
In September or October, totally weakened by the Saudi Arabia failed military adventure, the opposition will bow to the pressure and go to Geneva while Bashar Al Assad will remain in power.

I think you don’t have a dilemma, you have a serious problem.
Relying on KSA and Turkey to solve the problem of Syria will lead you straight to a failure.

August 17th, 2013, 2:31 pm

 

revenire said:

It never was Sunni vs Shia was it? It was always the voices of moderation and justice vs the Takfiris.

Maybe Josh Landis, and his sidekick Matt Barber, will have to rename their blog to something that fits the reality more closely?

August 17th, 2013, 2:56 pm

 

syrian said:

ZOO
well, it is not up to me nor to you for that matter how things are unfolding,I’m just being real in a real world, there are no permanents friends nor enemies only national interests,you read events from your perspective I read them from mine,and that is how I read them, it dose not mean I agree with them or disagree,
All your points can be rebuttled,maybe later,

August 17th, 2013, 3:32 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

It was always a conflict between people who want freedom and justice against a corrupt barbaric regime who is deeply sectarian, depending on very small sect against the majority of Syrians
describing it any other way is wrong and intentionally misleading, it was never Sunni against Shiaa, however Barbaric Persia support to this barbaric regime and the introduction of the terrorist HA made it appears as sectarian fight.
The barbaric persia will never win,the barbaric evil persia is fighting against 80% of the Syrian people, Persia will lose and We will win WWW

August 17th, 2013, 3:40 pm

 

zoo said:

Majed

Who is “we”? I guess you mean you and your friends the Shia-haters, the ‘civilized’ Takfiris.
Keep dreaming and predicting if it helps you keep what is left of your sanity after 3 years of failed predictions.

August 17th, 2013, 4:00 pm

 

zoo said:

#518 Syrian

No one knows how things will unfold, but the trend are becoming clearer in the last few months.
Right from the start I said that by welcoming the jihadists in their ranks with the hope they will help them out of their failures, the opposition has signed the end of the revolution and its morphing into a bloody civil war.
Advised by morons like HBJ, Erdogan and Ford, the opposition went from mistakes to failures while Syria advised by Iran and Russia has stood strong and coherent. Now Saudi Arabia has taken over the ‘counseling’ of the opposition. The SNC has change its master but it will face the same failures, as only Syrians can deal with Syrians to solve a Syrian crisis.
October is the moment of truth with the Geneva conference ( if it happens). We will know who won.

August 17th, 2013, 4:09 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Egypt.

The current military/’government’ regime’s strategy seems to be on shaky ground. US backing isn’t concrete and the europeans are even more rhetorically hostile to the regimes behaviour. The regime even coming out criticising the US reaction.

What will they do next? Continue on this course and escalate? Very risky.

Don’t rule out a counter coup from within the military to rectify the situation and/or to save face.

The term ‘anti-coup’ is beginning to gain traction and the ‘anti-coup’ feeling is seemingly beginning to gain momentum.

The MB has called for a week of anti-coup protests so expect them to continue and grow.

August 17th, 2013, 4:12 pm

 

zoo said:

Erdogan does it again

Egypt committing state terrorism, al-Sisi and al-Assad are same: Turkish PM

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/egypt-committing-state-terrorism-al-sisi-and-al-assad-are-same-turkish-pm.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52723&NewsCatID=338

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an has accused Egypt’s interim rulers of committing state terrorism and compared army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad as scores more were killed in a crackdown and hundreds were besieged in Cairo’s al-Fath Mosque by security forces.

August 17th, 2013, 4:13 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

what would happen if Saddam was still president of Iraq?
I think Assad would not have lasted this long,I think Saddam would have supported the Arab spring in Syria.Kurdistan would not have formed,

Turkey was the main loser ,so Turkey must try to regain influence,Turkey should not wait long,Erdogan needs to act soon.

August 17th, 2013, 4:14 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Is it possible (or realistic) to reconcile (or negotiate) with the Shabeeha? With those traitors who unleashed the Shabeeha and Hezbo on the Syrian people?

August 17th, 2013, 4:26 pm

 

zoo said:

#524 Majed

Turkey is loosing popularity in the Arab world. Despite repeated promises, Erdogan never visited his friends in Gaza. Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Egypt will soon boycott Turkish businesses and goods, if Erdogan continues calling for the return of Morsi and the hated MB.

Humiliated, Turkey has no choice than to return to its old allies, Israel and to beg the EU to accept it.
Its role in the region is over.

August 17th, 2013, 4:30 pm

 

Syria said:

Here is the obituary of 6 of the men apple mini is talking about,
They are all in the army wearing uniforms.
Under each name it says” congratulations on his death is welcome for a week”
So apple .if their families are happy that they died for Assad, why are you so upset.

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151661748298591&id=83383548590&set=a.92026643590.85497.83383548590&__user=100003131418721

August 17th, 2013, 4:39 pm

 
 

syrian said:

ZOO
Who did what can go on for ever,It is all ancient history now. where we stand today is what matter, the opposition seems to be in a better shape than few month ago,it will take some time to adjust to the new benefactor of the revolution,It is kind of early to tell the kind of commitment S.A,will provide. their recent success in Egypt might give them extra confidence,also there was a big movement in Jordan last week with talk of new Army being formed that will not include Islamist in Dara, so things is still developing and by October there will be a better picture.

August 17th, 2013, 5:16 pm

 

revenire said:

Nasrallah declares open war on takfiris and their backers

In July 2006, Seyyid Hassan Nasrallah declared an open war on Israel and shattered the myth of the Zionist army’s invincibility. Today, Nasrallah declared an open war on the takfiris and —in alluding to their instrumentalization by Israeli, western and Arab [Saudi] intelligence agencies—shattered the myth of al-Qaeda’s ideological and organizational impenetrability. And yet many continue to bark about how Hizbullah is essentially a sectarian movement fighting “fellow Muslims” in Syria— a euphemism for this foreign takfiri implant which has no organic relationship with Arab populations or grassroots support and hence, is neither representative of Sunnis nor mainstream Muslims. Not only is this reality completely overlooked and/or distorted by the opposite side, but Hizbullah’s history of fighting fellow Shia like the AMAL movement in defense of overwhelmingly Sunni Palestinians in the War of the Camps in the late 1980s, and subsequently, the years of military assistance and political support which it lent to [Sunni Islamist] HAMAS, is completely effaced.

Today Nasrallah did not pledge to protect a minority sect in Lebanon or to fight a rival sect in Syria; today he pledged to defeat a Saudi-financed, US-Zionist penetrated force which poses an existential and strategic threat to the Resistance and all those who support it, irrespective of their sect. In declaring an open war on the takfiris, and promising heavier involvement in Syria, Nasrallah was merely expanding the scope of the open war he declared against the Zionists in 2006.

http://resistance-episteme.tumblr.com/

August 17th, 2013, 5:28 pm

 
 
 

zoo said:

Syrian rebels still waiting for delivery of U.S. arms

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/08/17/syrian_rebels_still_waiting_for_delivery_of_us_arms.html

WASHINGTON—More than two months after they were promised, U.S. weapons and ammunition have not reached America’s allies among the Syrian rebels, and their delivery date remains unclear, according to the Syrian opposition and Middle Eastern diplomats.

Khalid Saleh, an official of the Syrian Opposition Coalition, said in a telephone interview from Turkey that, while U.S. officials continue to promise arms, “nothing has come through yet, and we haven’t been given a specific date when we’ll see them.”

The rebels, who have been pressing for months for anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons, have still not been told what kind of military aid they will receive, he said.

The White House announced June 13 that, in light of its conclusion that the Syrian government had used lethal chemical weapons in the two-year-old civil war, the administration would provide “military assistance” to the rebels.

The deliveries, which White House officials promised in “weeks, not months,” were seen as a step toward greater U.S. military involvement. U.S. agencies have so far provided only non-lethal equipment, such as mobile radios and $1 billion in humanitarian aid.

But, as the slow pace of the arms deliveries underscores, the administration remains conflicted about the move. Fearing that the arms could fall into the hands of Islamist militants who make up a growing part of the rebel forces, officials have been moving carefully to vet potential recipients of the arms.

The weapons are expected to be small arms and not the more powerful anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles rebels want. Saleh said coalition officials, who are in daily contact with U.S. officials, “have made our needs well known.”

The rebels are already receiving arms from Persian Gulf countries, and U.S. shipments are not expected to shift the balance in the war. But the move was intended to strengthen Washington’s ties to the rebels and send a message to the Syrian government, as well as its Iranian and Russian allies, that the United States could increase its involvement.

August 17th, 2013, 5:51 pm

 

zoo said:

#529 Syrian

Yes, I wait and watch.

August 17th, 2013, 5:53 pm

 

syrian said:

Uzair 8.
when all end well for the Syrians. The heads of the shabihas are all millionaires, they will leave the country to either live with Refaat Alassad in Spain or join Bushara in Dubai, the foot shabiha soldiers will be left to fend for themselves, who ever survive will most likely ends up driving a taxi or small bus, because most are uneducated and this profession needs only a driver license.

August 17th, 2013, 5:59 pm

 

zoo said:

Who was behind Beirut recent attacks?
Ersal is the headquarter of the terrorists whose group is “affiliated to a group operated by the security services of a major Gulf state.”

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/two-options-lebanon-deterrence-or-collapse

According to sources in the investigation, the following information has been obtained:

The group that fired rockets on the southern suburbs consists of Palestinians, including Ahmad Taha, who is currently hiding in Ersal. Taha’s handler is a leader in a known Palestinian Islamic group. The rockets were purchased from a Palestinian refugee camp in Beirut.

The group that planned and carried out the bombings along the Chtaura-Masnaa and Chtaura-Zahleh roads is based in Majdal Anjar. The group has been monitoring all roads that directly lead to Syria or Baalbeck, and kept tabs on the vehicles it believes were being used to move Hezbollah cadres or fighters to Syria along these roads. A list of suspects and their details is now in the possession of the army intelligence directorate. The directorate tried to arrest some of them several times, but was faced with stiff resistance indicating that the suspects are in fact “hunkered down” in Majdal Anjar.

The group tasked with preparing and detonating car bombs in Dahiyeh and the explosive devices along the Hermel road is operating out of Ersal. Lebanese army intelligence has obtained detailed information on the group’s members, including several who were named in the defense minister’s statement yesterday. One of the most prominent of these suspects is H. al-Houjeiri, who personally placed the explosive in Bir al-Abed on July 9.

The preliminary findings of the investigations indicate that the same group is behind both explosions in Dahiyeh, despite the attempt at deception by having different groups claim responsibility.
The armed men then carried bags containing explosives to the car, before driving it toward Dahiyeh. The woman who owned the car reported the car stolen at a police station nearby, providing descriptions of the men and the other car they were driving.
..
Members of the same group stole a BMW and rigged it with a large quantity of explosives. One member of the group then drove the car to Roueiss on Thursday, and parked it near a barbershop there. The car exploded 15 minutes after he left the area, according to the investigations.

The preliminary findings of the investigations indicate that the same group is behind both explosions in Dahiyeh, despite the attempt at deception by having different groups claim responsibility.

Investigations have also revealed that oversight of the entire operation has been entrusted to individuals from Ersal. These suspects are not affiliated with any Islamic group, but report to three individuals – a Syrian, Palestinian, and a Saudi – who are in charge of financing, planning, and choosing targets for operations. The trio is reportedly affiliated to a group operated by the security services of a major Gulf state.

August 17th, 2013, 6:03 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed your friends are going down the toilet back into the sewers they crawled out of.

Muslim Brotherhood faces ban as Egypt rulers pile on pressure
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/17/us-egypt-protests-idUSBRE97C09A20130817

August 17th, 2013, 6:12 pm

 

Ghufran said:

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The EU is now struggling to come up with a response to the bloodshed in Egypt after the unsc held a meeting about the situation. Official statements from the Egyptian government remind me of SANA, the only thing that separates the trouble in Egypt from becoming syrianized is the lack of foreign jihadists but that may change if borders with Sudan, Tunisia and Libya are not controlled. Notice how ksa is sending anti tank missiles to the rebels in Syria while calling protestors in Egypt ” terrorists” !!
Alwalid bin talal is joining his king in attacking the MB:

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???? ?? ???????: “?? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ????????? ???? ????? ???????? (???? ????????) ???? ????? ???????? ?????? ????????? ?????????”.

August 17th, 2013, 6:34 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Fsa leaders, except idris, may not be acceptable to KSA and the USA due to their ties with nusra and Islamist rebels:
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???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?????? “????? ??????”? ?? “??????? ?????? ????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ?????”.
KSA wants a force that pledges loyalty to KSA not nusra, such a force may receive support from Jordan and the USA. Alarabiya reported that KSA sent anti tank missiles to rebels through Jordan.

August 17th, 2013, 7:04 pm

 

revenire said:

Oh, there were foreign jihadis in Egypt. Syrians. They’re running for the exits now because they face arrest. It is delightfully funny.

My God, if they don’t run I can imagine some of them being shot for aiding the Muslim Brotherhood.

August 17th, 2013, 7:39 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Good news.
Congratulation to Zoo and Revenire
three aircraft were downed two in Damascus and one in Reqqa

August 17th, 2013, 7:57 pm

 

zoo said:

Verified: Obama supplied weapons now in hands of Al-Qaeda allied terrorists

http://www.examiner.com/article/verified-obama-supplied-weapons-now-hands-of-al-qaeda-allied-terrorists
August 17, 2013

“With many al-Qaeda leaders now operating in Syria…”

The Middle East-centric Assyrian International News Agency as well as the right-of-center news portals The Blaze and the Cybercast News Service have all verified on Aug. 16, 2013 that the long promised weapons from the United States, Saudi Arabia and various Western European and Persian Gulf nations have finally made their way to the al-Qaeda allied terrorists in Syria.

With the various militia factions seeking the overthrow of Syrian President Bashar Hafez al-Assad generically referred to as the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the pledged weapons couldn’t have arrived at a better time.

August 17th, 2013, 8:18 pm

 

zoo said:

A glimpse at the nightmare of living in divided Aleppo

Aleppo: A city where snipers shoot children
By Hannah Lucinda Smith Bustan al-Qasr, Aleppo, Syria

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23696829

This is a city of fiefdoms. Last week Bustan al-Qasr belonged to the criminals. Today it belongs to Ahrar Sureya. And next week, who knows?

The rebels take me to meet Abu Yassin, a senior official in the rebel-held part of the city’s Sharia Court police force, who is now in charge at Bustan al-Qasr.

On a corner where the main street meets a side road he points to the buildings where the snipers are stationed, in a government-owned tower block, in an apartment building, in a minaret.

“There are 72 snipers aiming towards us,” he says. “And they only ever shoot at civilians.”

August 17th, 2013, 8:49 pm

 

zoo said:

#542 Majed

If this is true, it just confirms that Al Qaeda and Cie got the right weapons from Saudi Arabia. No wonder you are jubilating: Your friends, the Islamists terrorists, got stronger thanks to the hypocrite Wahabbis.
All the areas controlled by the rebels are rotting with corruption, abuses and religious extremism, they’ll fall by themselves. No member of the SNC would dare stay more than one hour in any of thse ‘liberated’ places..
It is significant that the SNC meeting in Istanbul to announce the ‘transitional’ government for liberated areas and the transformation of the ‘good’ FSA into a ‘national army’ has be reported sine die.
Instead they resuscitated the ever agreed post-Assad roadmap. Pathetic.

August 17th, 2013, 9:01 pm

 

zoo said:

It is interestingd to realize that Syria is no more isolated in acting the way it did. The resemblance of the situation is Egypt is growing by the day with some notable differences. Like in Syria Turkey and Qatar are siding with the Moslem Brotherhood and the Islamists encouraging violent uprising in the name of ‘democracy’ , while, contrary to their position in Syria, Saudi Arabia and the GCC are siding with the army trying to restore security and eradicate the Moslem Brotherhood.
The USA and the EU who had recklessly condoned the Moslem Brotherhood rise in the Arab spring country, are now in a total confusion, not knowing where to side and save their face

Egypt has the right to use force to restore security: Presidency
A presidential spokesman told journalists that Egypt was battling terrorism
Dina Ezzat, Saturday 17 Aug 2013
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/79308/Egypt/Politics-/Egypt-has-the-right-to-use-force-to-restore-securi.aspx

Mostafa Hegazy, spokesman for Egypt’s interim president, stressed Saturday that authorities have the right to do what is needed to defend the country’s sovereignty, even by using firearms if necessary.

In a press conference held at the Ittihadiya presidential palace in Cairo and attended by a good number of Egyptian and foreign reporters, Hegazy conveyed the president’s message in both Arabic and English.

“All sovereign states have the right to use force to restore law and order,” he said.

August 17th, 2013, 9:14 pm

 

zoo said:

Gunmen kill 11 near Syrian Christian villages
August 17

By ALBERT AJI and BASSEM MROUE
The Associated Press

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/08/17/4416845/11-killed-in-attacks-near-syria.html#storylink=cpy


Attacks against Christians have not been uncommon in Syria since the country’s crisis began more than two years ago. Two bishops were abducted in rebel-held areas in April and an Italian Jesuit priest, Father Paolo Dall’Oglio, went missing last month while on a trip to the rebel-held northeastern city of Raqqa. On Monday, a bomb explosion killed an eight-year old Christian girl in Homs province.

Also Saturday, a bomb exploded near a Kurdish Red Crescent ambulance in the northeastern province of Hassakeh, killing two paramedics and wounding another, the Observatory said.

Hassakeh, which borders Turkey has been witnessing almost daily clashes between Kurdish gunmen and members of al-Qaida-linked groups such as Jabhat al-Nusra or Nusra Front over the past months that left scores of people dead.

The Observatory said Friday’s clashes in Hassakeh left four Kurdish gunmen and 11 jihadis dead.

Kurds, the largest ethnic minority in Syria, make up more than 10 percent of the country’s population, and have seen their loyalties split in the conflict between pro- and anti-Assad groups.

On Friday, the U.N. refugee agency said an unusually large wave of Syrian families has been pouring into Iraq’s Kurdistan region this week.

August 17th, 2013, 9:23 pm

 

zoo said:

The same applies to Syria
It’s Time to Hold Our Nose and Back Egypt’s Military
by Leslie H. Gelb Aug 17, 2013 7:56 PM EDT

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/17/it-s-time-to-hold-our-nose-and-back-egypt-s-military.html

If Islamists regain control in Egypt, all hope for democracy is lost. So as unsavory as it may feel, working with the moderate-aligned military is our only hope, writes Leslie H. Gelb.
Let’s get real and tamp down the moral posturing about democracy in Egypt. Freely elected President Morsi and his now-deposed Muslim Brotherhood government weren’t practicing democracy. They were co-opting the laws and slowly destroying all possible opposition. Besides, they were aligning with America’s jihadist enemies in Syria, Gaza, and elsewhere. Egypt’s military leaders, no democratic sweethearts either, are aligned with moderates, need Washington more than the Islamists, and back U.S. interests on the Suez Canal and Israel. Americans rightly can’t stand the military street slaughters. For sure, bloody casualties will mount. But the United States has some modest chance to influence the military in right directions. It has little or no chance of saving Egypt for democracy if the Islamists return to power.

August 17th, 2013, 9:33 pm

 

Sami said:

A 16 min documentary about jailed Syrian artist Youssef Aldelke:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=374353739360474

And another documentary about the Alawi Syrian activist Abdul Aziz AL-Khair:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDcHOeSPWSk

The story of both of these gentlemen is a testament that this abomination of a regime is rotten to its very core. Neither one of these two men ever carried a gun in their resistance against the Assad thuggery yet they languish in jail.

So much for dialogue… And anyways what kind of dialogue can you have with those that intertwine peace with genocide!

It took only the simple words to shake this regime to its core and make it unleash one of the most barbaric responses documented in modern history:
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August 17th, 2013, 10:11 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Persia is supporting Mursi, Zoo is supporting the coup and Sisi, so is there explanation?

August 17th, 2013, 10:13 pm

 

Sami said:

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August 17th, 2013, 10:31 pm

 

zoo said:

#549 Majed

Iran was first satisfied to see a ‘moderate’ Moslem government in Egypt replacing an USA puppet, but Egyptian religious, pushed by KSA were horrified to see an invasion of Shias that would convert Sunnis and objected to more closeness. At the same time the USA also disapproved Mosri’s government openness to Iran and were putting pressure on Morsi to slow down.
It became clear for Iran that establishing a good relation with Morsi’s Egypt was not going to be a piece of cake. Then came the military coup.

Iran is suspicious of coups as they see the hands on the USA behind them. The CIA coup that removed the first democratic government in Iran, Mossadegh’s, is still in their mind. So their first reaction was negative.
Now, they are glad to see that the Egyptian Army is crushing the Islamists that are violently anti-Shias. They expect that Al Sissi’s foreign policy toward Iran will not be as negative as it used to be during Mobarak’s time. Therefore they have tempered greatly their original criticism and now play low key while Turkey has increasing its calls for a return to Morsi, perceived by the Egyptians as a direct interference in their internal affairs.

I don’t expect the new Egyptian government to have a foreign policy totally dictated by the US government. Turkey is becoming a pariah in Egypt and may loose all its investments , therefore despite Saudi Arabia direct intervention in Egypt, I expect an improvement of Egypt’s relation with Syria and Iran as well as Russia.

Overall, after 25+ years without diplomatic relation with Egypt , Iran is patient enough to wait for the situation to stabilize as in any case it can’t be worse than Mubarak’s time.

August 17th, 2013, 11:40 pm

 

Ghufran said:

I have not seen an endorsement by sheikh al-Azhar but this is still significant:
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????? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ???????: ‘??? ?? ???? ?? ????? ????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ?????? ???????? ???? ??????? ??? ??? ????? ???????’.
Alazhar is undoubtedly the most respected body of Islamic scholars in the Muslim World.
Videos on the net, confirmed by western press, showed the flags of al-Qaida in one of the demonstrations in Cairo, other videos showed terrorists shooting on the army and attacking public buildings:
?????. ????? !!
I do not consider Iran as a positive force in the middle east but I do not think they are evil, Iranians are way ahead of Arabs in almost every aspect, they look after their own interests and they use others to their advantage , Arabs have been followes for the last 800 years with rare exceptions.

August 18th, 2013, 1:14 am

 

omen said:

tara, this is like the argument you’ve made before re iranian treatment of women.

photo:

https://twitter.com/RezaAsadi/status/368897335935258624

August 18th, 2013, 2:13 am

 

Juergen said:

This is how syrian refugees are treated in Italy. The EU has often spoken out against the bad treatment of refugees in Italy, I think action has to be taken fast.

In this video the police beats refugees when they tried to speak out with italian press. One man said then loudly,:” Bashar Al Assad has more dignity than you guys.”

August 18th, 2013, 3:01 am

 

SimoHurtta said:

550. omen said:

tara, this is like the argument you’ve made before re iranian treatment of women.

photo:

https://twitter.com/RezaAsadi/status/368897335935258624

Do you remember, what you Omen wrote in Twitter to that picture?

omen ?@omen_99 2h

@RezaAsadi ok israel, u can bomb the mullahs now.

Do you hope, that France and GB nuke Israel because women are forced to the back of buses in Jerusalem and religious Jewish men spit on women if they do not obey? They even have had separate pavements for women in Jewish extremist regions.

Do you Omen know what is the difference with the picture situation with Saudi Arabia and Iran? First is that in Saudi Arabia there are no inaugurations for presidents and the second difference is if there would be a such inauguration no women would be allowed there.
Members of the Shura Council attending the inauguration ceremony headed by King Abdullah

—–

Majedkhaldoun do think that your constant using of the name Persia instead of Iran will irritate the Iranians and Shias in general? And give us outsiders a “mental image” of a barbaric state. Well that does not work.

August 18th, 2013, 5:07 am

 

mjabali said:

Syrian said:

“Who did what can go on for ever,It is all ancient history now. where we stand today is what matter, ”

Your logic is wrong for the following reasons:

1- The bad blood of the past is brought up now. They want to score fights of the past.

2- The history you learned and believed in always written by the “victor.” There are many lies in it, or not telling bout many things.

3- The fighters of today (here mostly the opposition) are stuck in the past with their ideas, source for ratification, and aspiration. They are like the time machine want to take back to the past.

August 18th, 2013, 7:27 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

New axis of Evil: brainwashed of Hezbzbelleh, Amal, Muqtada Sadr, Assad’s Criminal Mafia and The Man of the Mountain in Iran.

“Kill them all” is an extended demand between populations of Irak, Syria, Jordan, Palestine and Lebanon. Finally the overhwelming majority will make great gains on the ground and Sunna will regain its natural position with christians, druzes and ismalilis living side by side as minorities. Demographics is always the winning card. Alawites will face troubles for long years to find a place to live in peace.

August 18th, 2013, 7:44 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Simo
The name of Barbaric Persian is the name Arab refer to the despicable people there,they where THE enemy of Arab for thousands of years , changing the name would not erase the nature, the devil stays devil even if you change his name.

Ghufran
The Arab has always been better than the Barbaric Persian in many ways, that is why the few good Persian followed the Arab, Arab has higher morality than the Barbaric Persians, Islam spread in that area,it is Arabic religion.

As for edicts by some Sheikhs, remember All edicts are non religious, they are political,or social, you will find one sheikh issues Fatwa ,where another sheikh issues fatwa opposite to the first fatwa, those sheikhs who are Sultan sheikhs are common ,example the stupid Hassoun , Mufti of Syria.
Ask most of religious sheikhs they tell you Azhar is no longer following the true spirit of Islam, it is becoming political.

That is why I follow the Zahiri Mazhab, this Mazhab considers Quraan and verified hadith as the accepted Fiqh, and denounces all edicts, unless it is 100% accepted by Ulamaa

August 18th, 2013, 8:52 am

 

Tara said:

Assad’s Instagram:  a smart move?  Hahaha!

Assad’s Instagram: Syria Account Backfires
11:21am UK, Sunday 18 August 2013

http://news.sky.com/story/1130083/assads-instagram-syria-account-backfires

An online charm offensive by the Syrian president has backfired after critics left scathing comments on his Instagram account.

Bashar al Assad’s office took to the social media site last month to post pictures that include the embattled leader greeting supporters and his British-Syrian wife Asma comforting children and the injured.

Some comments on the Instagram account praise Mr Assad for “fighting terrorism” and describe the First Lady as a “beautiful soul”.

But others are far from complimentary, calling him as a “monster” and his wife a “devil” and “gold digger”.

Many of the Instagram users employ sarcasm to condemn the couple and and blaming them for civilian deaths in Syria.

On a photo of Mrs Assad – a former banker who grew up in Acton, west London – kneeling with children, olisyah said: “I love ur designer clothes and shoes #asmaalassad, paid for by the blood of your people! Seriously, u make Marie Antoinette look like an angel compared to you!!”

On this Instagram image, user _brittmonique commented: Kissing the devil

_malooka__ said: you sick person (all images from Syrian presidiency)
And on a photo of Ms Assad giving a child a doll, out4bling said: “Here kid sorry about your parents dying but I’m sure this doll will make it all better, it can be ur new mommy.”

The United States has already denounced the account as “repulsive”, saying it does not reflect the reality of the Syrian civil war.

“This is nothing more than a despicable PR stunt,” US State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf told reporters.

August 18th, 2013, 8:56 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
Your answer is still very confusing and vague.
Persia is still supporting Mursi, and the new regime in Egypt is a follower of KSA who is against Persia

August 18th, 2013, 9:16 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Iran denounces Egypt’s military coup –

Egyptian coup could hurt Iran – WND –

August 18th, 2013, 9:23 am

 

zoo said:

Al Qaeda now running the opposition…

Iran, Hezbollah now running Syria: opposition
August 18, 2013 01:38 PM

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Aug-18/227719-iran-hezbollah-now-running-syria-opposition.ashx#ixzz2cKOI0j6g

August 18th, 2013, 9:42 am

 

zoo said:

Majed

What more do you want to show that Iran is undecided and is smartly waiting:

Iran did not call the toppling of Morsi a ‘coup’ and is now just worry about a civil war in Egypt. They have a very nuanced and intelligent reaction while Turkey has openly taken side with Morsi and after loosing Syria, will pay dearly by loosing Egypt for good.

Iran: Morsi overthrow ‘improper’
Published July 07, 2013
Associated Press

TEHRAN – Iran, in its first official reaction to the toppling of Egypt’s democratically elected president by the military, is calling the move “improper.”
….
Araghchi did not call the move a “coup.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/07/iran-morsi-overthrow-improper/#ixzz2cKOtX3Ng
================
Iran’s Khamenei wary of civil war in Egypt
August 09, 2013 10:08 AM
Agence France Presse

Read more: http://dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Aug-09/226807-irans-khamenei-wary-of-civil-war-in-egypt.ashx#ixzz2cKPGcUMo

August 18th, 2013, 9:49 am

 

omen said:

simo, surprise ? i’m for taking out saudi royals too.

wonder if i’ll see it in my lifetime.

August 18th, 2013, 9:57 am

 

Tara said:

Omen,

What a picture. They are really uncivilized.

They should learn how to treat women from my husband.

So happy I am not an Iranian.

And they also alternate taking garbage out with their wives…

August 18th, 2013, 10:01 am

 

zoo said:

Egypt holds a very crucial bargaining card: the peace treaty with Israel. Any move for sanctions by the EU and the USA may result in its cancelling.
The West is trapped and will let the Army rule the country as long as it respects the treaty, whatever the number of Egyptians die as long as not a single Israeli dies.
It is clear that signing a peace deal with Israel is a warranty of immunity.

August 18th, 2013, 10:02 am

 

Syrian said:

MJABALI
My quote was in a different context, my conversation with Zoo was about the 3 powers fighting now for Syria.Iran, S.A and Turkey, what happens in the past in Syria to them is an ancient history.
On the ground in Syria it is a different matter.

August 18th, 2013, 10:10 am

 

Sami said:

“It is clear that signing a peace deal with Israel is a warranty of immunity.”

If only Besho signed one….

Muqawameh card is nothing more than a cheap excuse to suppress for minhebaks.

August 18th, 2013, 10:26 am

 

revenire said:

Sami you sound frustrated. Sleep okay?

August 18th, 2013, 10:28 am

 

don said:

Death Squads leaders unite

Robert Ford and Jeffrey Feltman in Egypt, all that’s missing now is Elliott Abrams to complete the three stooges act

UN’s Jeffrey Feltman to travel to Egypt next week

The United Nations is sending its political affairs chief to Egypt next week to meet with a range of officials including representatives from the Muslim Brotherhood amid the ongoing violence

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=115281

August 18th, 2013, 10:31 am

 

revenire said:

Omen you should really work on “taking out” the bad guys in your own country first. I don’t know where you live but I’d guess the US. Posting 50,000 tweets really doesn’t do much of anything except waste bandwidth.

August 18th, 2013, 10:31 am

 

revenire said:

Tara are you suggesting didn’t Assad know he’d get all sorts of comments on Instagram? It seems rather childish of anyone, and especially the Sky News reporter who wrote the story, to think Assad is this naive. All world leaders get these kinds of comments. It’s the Internet! If you had followed Obama’s Facebook page you’d see many, many more comments from Egyptians alone, accusing Obama of supporting the Muslim Brotherhood’s terrorism.

August 18th, 2013, 10:43 am

 

Alan said:

Under an existing aid agreement between Washington and Tel Aviv signed in 2007, $30 billion of American taxpayers’ money is currently flowing to Israel.
Israelis are concerned with increasing US arms sales to countries in the region and are asking Washington for a surge in its advanced military aid.
This money is an incentive for Israel to create more enemies, to suck more money out of the US taxpayer. When Americans have a government willing to stop signing those checks, Israel will calm down.
* * *
The Syrian Arab Army need more defensive deterrent weapons. The ongoing war in Syria will not stop until the emergence of a larger war. take care Mr Putin !

August 18th, 2013, 10:48 am

 

Tara said:

Reve

Of course he will have lots of positive comments. All of which will come from his Alawi sect, Iranians, Lebanese and Iraqi Shiaa, and some misguided others who hail him as a hero when he performs physiological functions.

The point is his stunt at PR fooled no one except his usual audience.

August 18th, 2013, 11:02 am

 

zoo said:

Egyptian anti-Morsi activist to Obama: “keep your money and go to hell”

http://news.yahoo.com/egyptian-youth-leader-backs-army-battle-brotherhood-154656126.html

And he has a message for U.S. President Barack Obama, who has expressed alarm at the violent crackdown on the Brotherhood that has led to more than 700 deaths: “Don’t lecture us on how to deal with the Brotherhood’s terrorism.”

As for aid money, he says, Obama can keep it – and “go to hell”.

August 18th, 2013, 11:08 am

 

zoo said:

Revenire

Such a silly article… The media is trying to find just anything to diminish Bashar Al Assad’ extraordinary charisma, resilience and stature.
Unable to even create his long promised ‘transitional’ government and his ‘national army’ Jarba is becoming as hysterical as Erdogan as he calls for more weapons and for Bashar’s removal before the conference. It seems the opposition is under heavy pressure and panic striken: the Geneva conference is advancing and unless something dramatic happen, they will have to bow and accept to attend without any pre-conditions and with Bashar still in power.

August 18th, 2013, 11:18 am

 

zoo said:

Don

UN’s Jeffrey Feltman? OMG! This arrogant moron again?
“Success” guarantee..

August 18th, 2013, 11:21 am

 

Alan said:

SC!
Are you welcome the terms of murder and killing in this forum?
(554) SANDRO LOEWE is speaking as Hitler!

August 18th, 2013, 11:21 am

 

revenire said:

Tara no, I didn’t mean that. I meant Assad knew he’d get every kind of comment – negative and positive. I don’t think it was a PR stunt. It just seems like something any president does and the comments reflect that. Assad is the president of Syria – a country involved in a war. Thus, he gets all kinds of comments. If it was peacetime citizens would complain about the cost of mazoot or food or wages. This is natural.

Also, let’s not forget the US State Department funds Internet operations against Syria – both paying for and training “activists” – so for all we know every negative comment is from such types (with the assorted deranged nut here and there). I know there is a vocal minority that hate Assad.

There is plenty of evidence of the US State Department funding online “activists” against Syria:

Meet the international revolutionary geek squad
http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/06/22/meet-international-revolutionary-geek-squad/HP4iljWroxdBods6d9kD5I/story.html

State Dept Says 7,500 Internet Activists Funded
http://cryptome.org/2012/01/0019.htm

Syrian Opposition Targets the Regime Online
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/syrian-opposition-targets-the-regime-online

U.S. Funds Help Democracy Activists Evade Internet Crackdowns
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-20/u-s-funds-help-democracy-activists-evade-internet-crackdowns.html

August 18th, 2013, 11:24 am

 

Mina said:

Soon the UN will explain they have never heard about Hasaka, Qamishli, and Deir al Zor
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23745201

August 18th, 2013, 11:30 am

 

Ghufran said:

Iran is rule by a theocracy which is more modern and flexible than a Saudi or taliban-type government, they give women the right to drive, work and go to school but they are still a theocracy and it is just natural that they will sympathize with similar governments and movements , they have dealt with the Talibans before and have supported Hamas for years, both are Sunni movements. The mullah do not want the anti MB ( or anti islamists in general) movement to sweep the arab world because they may be next. The attacks on Iranians and Iranian women on this blog are based on bias not facts, while Arabs act like tribes and keep fighting each other and many get stuck with ibn taymia’s regressive fatwas, Iranians maintained a level of unity and are largely independent and self sufficient, despite the problems with mullahs , Iranians are in a much better shape than most Arabs who may have succeeded as individuals but failed miserably as a group.

August 18th, 2013, 11:34 am

 

zoo said:

Syrian Kurds are brutally displaced by the Al Qaeda fighters with the cooperation of the FSA in order to create a ‘liberated’ Islamic Caliphate. Will the Iraqi Kurds remain silent/

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/18/thousands-of-hungry-and-scared-syrian-refugees-enter-iraq/

Faced with brutal violence and soaring prices, thousands of Syrian Kurds have poured into Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish region, seeking respite from privation and fighting between Kurdish fighters and jihadists.

The sudden influx of Syrians across the border, the vast majority of them women, children or elderly, has forced the UN refugee agency to scramble aid to the region.

They are being housed at a camp on the outskirts of the Kurdish regional capital Arbil that is still under construction and lacks many basic services.

But for many, it provides a welcome respite from the fighting ravaging their home districts in a deadly spin-off from the Syrian civil war.’

Government forces pulled out of most Kurdish-majority areas of northern and northeastern Syria last year, leaving Kurdish groups to run their own affairs.

But Al-Qaeda loyalists, who have played a significant role in the rebellion against President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, see the region as a vital link to fellow jihadists in Iraq and have been locked in deadly fighting with Kurdish militia in recent months.

The UN says between 5,000 and 7,000 refugees crossed into Iraq in the latest influx, but Kurdish officials put the number at around 15,000, with more expected to follow.

August 18th, 2013, 11:37 am

 

zoo said:

15,000 Syrian Kurds fleeing areas hit by Islamists

http://static.olj.me/images/news/large/828415_137336056593.jpeg

August 18th, 2013, 11:44 am

 

don said:

Mediation vs meddling in Egypt

According to the general guidelines of a reconciliation plan originally proposed by EU Foreign Policy Chief Catherine Ashton, later developed by US Undersecretary of State William Burns and supported by the foreign ministers of Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, MB leaders should be allowed a safe exit to a foreign country — Qatar has offered to play host — along with their families and their money.

The scheme was refused by Cairo. Al-Sisi, say Cairo-based Western diplomats, warned foreign interlocutors that the plan could provoke waves of public anger.

It is not the only scenario that Al-Sisi, sometimes with the support of civilians within the current ruling system, has turned down. The head of the Armed Forces also refused a proposal made by Gulf states to allow Morsi to publicly delegate his authorities to a prime minister appointed with the consent of the Muslim Brotherhood.

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/Print/3695.aspx

August 18th, 2013, 11:51 am

 

Alan said:

EXCLUSIVE REPORT: EGYPT SENDING DIPLOMATIC MISSION TO RUSSIA
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/08/16/Report-Egypt-Sending-Diplomatic-Mission-to-Russia

Russia is offering the Egyptian government fighter jets and other military equipment. This week, President Obama announced that the US is suspending its planned joint military exercise with the Egyptian army. It seems the Russians are jumping in to fill the void left by the Americans.
….
Loses Egypt, loses their place in the world! “Look at the Greeks, the Romans, the British, the Russians and, now, the US. Obama…McCain, they are giving it away.

August 18th, 2013, 12:06 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

??? ???????? ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ?????? ??????? ????? ?????? ?? ?????!
Ahwaz is Arabic province , occupied by the barbaric Persians,1925, many Shiaa in Ahwaz are converting to Sunni, it is rich in oil

August 18th, 2013, 12:25 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed you remind me of the funny, old uncle that sits in a corner during weddings and rants and raves about everyone he hates.

August 18th, 2013, 1:13 pm

 

Alan said:

Great Game Around Egypt
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/08/15/great-game-around-egypt.html
….
Abd al-Galil al-Sharnubi, a former “brother” who left the organization’s ranks to openly challenge the Islamists, says, “It’s an open secret the Muslim Brothers operate under the financial and ideological “umbrella of Washington”. They are desperately trying to save the situation. The international organization is fully discredited in Egypt, but it’s important to preserve at least part of its worldwide structure”.

The Persian Gulf monarchies have their own game to play in Egypt. The country has been visited by Qatar’s Foreign Minister Khalid bin Mohammad Al Attiyah and Minister for Foreign Affairs of the United Arab Emirates. Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan. The Qatar’s official met the Egyptian Muslim Brothers leadership in an attempt to put an end to strike actions and street violence in exchange for setting free Islamist leaders. The reports about the Qatar’s activities can be trusted; the government sets its position soberly assessing the situation. The core goal pursued by Qatar is to preserve the main Islamist forces and save them from a serious defeat.

Whatever it is, the period of uncertainty in Egypt is over. The country on the Nile with the population of 85 million has stepped into an open conflict on August 14. Now a lot will depend on the Egyptian government which should take decisive and well-calculated actions to prevent an Islamist revolt…

August 18th, 2013, 1:20 pm

 
 

Alan said:

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http://arabic.rt.com/prg/telecast/658557/ :????? ?????

August 18th, 2013, 2:08 pm

 

Tara said:

??????: ????? ?? ????? ???? ????

????? ???? ???????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ‘?????’? ??? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ????????. ???? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ?? ???? ?? ????? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ????????.

???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ?? ???? ???????? ????? ??? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ??? ??????? ?? ????? ??? ????.

????? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ??????? ???? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?? ??? ???????? ??? ????? ?? ???? ??? ?????.

?????? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ??????? ??? ??? ??????? ?? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ????.

??? ???????? ?????? ??? ???? ???????? ?????? ??????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?? ?? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ????? ?????? ????? ???. ????? ??? ????? ?? ????? ‘?????? ???????’ ?? ??? ?? ???? ????? ???? ‘?????’.

?????? ?????? ?? ????? ?? ???? ?? ????? ??????? ??? ?????? ????????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ??? ???? ????????? ????? ??? ?? ???????? ????? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ???? ????????? (????? ??? ????? ?????? ??????) ????? ????? ???????.
,,,
http://www.aljazeera.net/mob/f6451603-4dff-4ca1-9c10-122741d17432/6b71c4e9-91cb-475f-af9c-31e6057892b6

August 18th, 2013, 3:04 pm

 

SimoHurtta said:

561. omen said:

simo, surprise ? i’m for taking out saudi royals too.

wonder if i’ll see it in my lifetime.

So Omen you want Israel (= Jews) to take out Saudis royals and Iran. Hmmm why am I not surprised. Do you Omen use your kippah (yarmulke) when writing your countless tweets (nearly 40,000 now)?

555. majedkhaldoun said:

Simo
The name of Barbaric Persian is the name Arab refer to the despicable people there,they where THE enemy of Arab for thousands of years , changing the name would not erase the nature, the devil stays devil even if you change his name.

Well Majedkhaldoun it is a matter of taste which are seen more barbaric the nomads of Arabian Peninsula or the numerous civilizations of Persia. Persia has actually in west a rather recognized image, at least for those of us who did not sleep in the school during history lessons. Persia is certainly not the synonym for barbarism for us. Saudis at the same time are not seen as the beacons of civilization…

Majedkhaldoun are really an American citizen and living there? Your harsh and constant hate speech against Persia and Shias is not normal for a normal person. If people like you hate your fellow Muslims with slightly different views so much, how much do you hate us Christians, especially us Protestants? Can we coexist? Should we?

August 18th, 2013, 3:05 pm

 

revenire said:

Omen has nearly 40,000 tweets. LOL what a life.

August 18th, 2013, 3:40 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Simo
I am sure you slept during history lessons,
Simo
This revolution is for freedom and dignity,and whoever attacks us,we will fight him back,the barbaric Persians are attacking us.
Many christians are unlike you ,are good people and support this revolution, only the hateful are against this revolution,
You are living in the west,under free and democratic system, yet when it comes to Syria you are against freedom and democracy there, this is unexplainable,you are taking advantage of freedom ,yet you are against it in Syria, you should be ashamed of yourself.

August 18th, 2013, 3:52 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

A rearticulation of my point on Egypt yesterday.

For the Egyptian military regime the situation is not going according to script*. Soon it may come to a fork in the road and have a difficult decision to make.

1. A humiliating reversal of course.

2. Dig their heels in and continue course/escalation into the unknown. Like I said it’s currently not going by the script and who knows where this will lead to.

If they decide on the latter, then a military counter coup is a real possibility.

*-US and in particular EU response.

-Resignations including of El Baradei and the National Salvation Front’s (NSF) spokesman.

-Muslim Brotherhood and supporters determination.

-Media (wide) exposure of regime behaviour and holes in narrative.

Etc Etc.

August 18th, 2013, 4:06 pm

 

omen said:

aww, isn’t that cute? nazis of a feather flock together. simo, you’ve reduced rev into a giggling school girl.

yes, simo, you’ve busted the entire board. we are all mossad. even yourself. you just don’t recognize it yet. you’re a sleeper agent.

account is four years old. how many tweets should i have instead?

let’s compare, simo, rev. where are your accounts?

you wont divulge because you guys are cowards, only willing to throw punches from the shadows.

what kind of weirdo critique is that anyways? y’all are grasping at straws. how about putting up a decent argument instead?

August 18th, 2013, 4:07 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

575. Alan

SCI

I do not say I want to kill them all or it is good to kill anyone specially when it affects a whole community, race or creed whose most members will be innocent.

I am just describing a reality I dicover day after day when talking to syrians who flee from Syria due to missiles and rocket attacks from both sides but specially from Assad Mafia.

August 18th, 2013, 4:16 pm

 

omen said:

re earlier discussion of isw:

Syrian government lacks the capacity to conclusively defeat insurgency despite increased assistance from external allies.

August 18th, 2013, 4:20 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

575. Alan

Learn to read and disclose the meaning of a message before you launch accusations without basis.

Maybe you need a moukhabaraati system at your orders to penalize people without reason.

August 18th, 2013, 4:20 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Some guys from Sweida informed me two days ago there are official there serving to the Assad Army give less than 9 months to the national institution due to lack of recruitments, big loses, lack of legitimacy between population, etc .

August 18th, 2013, 4:24 pm

 

Syrialover said:

This is fun.

Story: “Nasrallah says ready to fight in Syria himself”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/16/us-lebanon-explosion-syria-idUSBRE97F0PP20130816?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

COMMENT: Go Hassan, go boy!

But take off all the layers of fancy gear and or you’ll trip while running.

The rebels will be terrorized and run for their lives when they see they are facing the big gun himself – a baby-faced, soft-bodied man in his fifties who has never done an hour’s physical work or training in his life.

A paid servant of the Iranians who has been living a lie and betraying Arabs.

A man who may as well die a martyr to an ugly pointless cause because there is no future for him.

August 18th, 2013, 4:26 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Some good news from Syria.

Story: Over 9,000 Syrians to Sit Opposition-Run Baccalaureate Exam

More than 9,450 Syrian students will sit their baccalaureate exam Friday under opposition administration and monitoring, in the liberated areas of Aleepo, Raqqa, Idleb, Deir El- Zor and in the refugee camps of Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan.

An opposition source from the rebels-held areas of Aleppo said it was expected that the exam will be recognized internationally.

“We confirm that our exams meet the high standards of fairness and accuracy, and are held under the supervision of the directorate of examinations,” the source said.

http://www.syrianobserver.com/News/News/Over+9000+Syrians+Sit+OppositionRun+Baccalaureate+Exam

August 18th, 2013, 4:35 pm

 

omen said:

sl, nasrallah took off his fancy gear, he’s been training.

behold, simo’s object of affection.

photo:

https://twitter.com/emmasuleiman/status/368777843049656322

August 18th, 2013, 4:38 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Meanwhile, paranoid, dumb and desperate security services make life for the suffering citizens of Damascus even more impossible by banning bicycles!

Story: “Bicycles are being confiscated on the basis they may be transporting fugitives or illegal goods”

http://www.syrianobserver.com/Features/Features/Banning+Bicycles+on+the+Streets+of+Damascus

August 18th, 2013, 4:42 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Horror in Egypt : Saying it once, saying it again
17 Aug 2013

Tariq Ramadan

http://www.tariqramadan.com/spip.php?article13046&lang=fr

August 18th, 2013, 4:44 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Omen
#600
That is funny picture of Nasrallah

Today another aircraft was downed over Salma town

August 18th, 2013, 4:55 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Do the opposition and its laughable mouthpieces really need to lie to our faces?

We are here right in Damascus. We walk through the city everyday and we see many people riding bicycles and we even saw some serious cyclists with serious gears. We never saw any of them got stopped because of their bicycles.

Dear opposition,

Please just shovel those trashy lies into your own mouth.

August 18th, 2013, 4:59 pm

 

Syrialover said:

OMEN #600

Thanks for the link to that brilliant photo of Hassan Nasrullah.

Yeah, he’s sure ready for something (censored).

It’s made my day.

Let’s see if we can get it made into mass posters for Syrians to enjoy as a replacement for all those regime posters showing Nasrallah cosy with Bashar Assad.

August 18th, 2013, 5:01 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

I watch the Egyptian situation unfold and my mind shouts out ‘echoes of syria’. ‘Syria all over again’. Just read that Tariq Ramadan article for example.

Elsehwhere I hadn’t commented on Egypt however many of those skeptical of the Syrian revolution (due to ignorance of the early days and how the situation unfolded) happen to be following the Egyptian situation (or ‘early days’) closely and pointing out the horrors and the lies of the Egyptian regime and it’s supporters.

I can’t help but think/expect vindication regarding Syria. I’m certain of it. Truth emerges. For a surety. The doubters will on their own discover the truth about Syria through Egypt.

In Sha Allah.

Just an observation.

There won’t be any ‘I told you so’.

Don’t care if the entire universe was skeptical. I’d proudly stand by this just cause even if on my own.

August 18th, 2013, 5:02 pm

 

Syrialover said:

APPLE_MINI #6004 protected species like you in your happy part of Damascus are probably being given all the confiscated bicycles to play with.

Enjoy yourself and your delusions or whatever while you can.

August 18th, 2013, 5:08 pm

 

Syrialover said:

UZAIR8 and others struggling with parallels between Egypt and Syria, this is worth reading. It hits on some basic truths.

Authoritarianism is not the solution in Egypt.

http://www.al-bab.com/blog/2013/august/egypt-authoritarianism-not-the-solution.htm#disqus_thread))

August 18th, 2013, 5:14 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Though Mr Nasrallah is my enemy I couldn’t endorse such an image or insult him in that way. I had no issue with him before Syria.

My comment is at those who created such an image not at anyone else.

Sorry. Just my opinion which I felt I had to state. We are people of honour In Sha Allah. We wouldn’t accept our revered or scholarly figures portrayed that way. It’s going too far.

August 18th, 2013, 5:18 pm

 

revenire said:

Omen gets his kicks out of bad Photoshop images of Arab heroes. He calls this a “life” LOL

August 18th, 2013, 5:31 pm

 

Syrialover said:

My disgust at events in Egypt is at those on both sides who are nasty cowards going for soft targets.

Violently attacking vulnerable groups that have no role in the current crisis.

Hysterical animal mobs enjoying themselves.

1. Those who are terrorizing and stirring up trouble against the displaced and desperate Syrians in Egypt with the idiotic accusation that they support the Muslim Brotherhood. (Their brains are too small to remember the welcome mat was put out to Syrians before the MB came into power)

2. The Muslim Brotherhood mobs who have been smashing up and burning hundreds of Coptic Christian churches and in other ways further terrorizing this already suffering minority group (accelerating what they were doing in slow motion while the MB was in power and smilingly standing by).

The Egyptians I know are deeply angry and ashamed by these actions.

Both groups have dirtied their own version of the revolution.

August 18th, 2013, 5:40 pm

 

Syrialover said:

UZAIR8 #609

If you think that image of Nasrallah is unfair and disrespectful, you are obviously too remote from the realities of Syria and Lebanon.

His backside has been exposed just like in the photo. He is no Arab hero. He is a prostitute to the Iranians who is prepared to have his supporters kill Syrians and die themselves just to keep his external sponsors happy.

August 18th, 2013, 5:46 pm

 

Tara said:

Syrialover and Omen

“– a baby-faced, soft-bodied man in his fifties who has never done an hour’s physical work or training in his life.”

LOL!

The description match the picture perfectly. And sadly, it is an accurate description.

August 18th, 2013, 5:46 pm

 

SimoHurtta said:

591. majedkhaldoun said:

Simo
I am sure you slept during history lessons,
Simo
This revolution is for freedom and dignity,and whoever attacks us,we will fight him back,the barbaric Persians are attacking us.
Many christians are unlike you ,are good people and support this revolution, only the hateful are against this revolution,
You are living in the west,under free and democratic system, yet when it comes to Syria you are against freedom and democracy there, this is unexplainable,you are taking advantage of freedom ,yet you are against it in Syria, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I am not against any revolution. I am against religious extremists advocating mass murder of those with different religious and political views and starting religious civil wars, which will last decades. And that is what you and your bearded friends are advocating and doing. Creating a new Somalia and Afghanistan. You Majedkhaldoun are living in USA so do not lecture me about freedom and democracy. It is “easy” for you to advocate religious wars in Middle East and enjoy western safety.

If a Finnish Muslim convert gets paid to travel to Syria and is paid to fight there (he died in Aleppo) we all can ask ourself what revolution is that. Syrians are not paying for the religious fighters streaming to Syria from all over Europe and Muslim world. Others are and give them the weapons and ammunition. It is not a social or political revolution, it has become a religious war with the unspoken intend to wipe out the “wrong Muslims” and Christians.

Not even the most naive optimist could believe, that after Assad is kicked out the bearded militias will give up their weapons and the power they have achieved. Also it is naive to believe that from some where emerge those 300,000-500,000 soldiers demanded to keep order in Syria and disarm the militias.

600. omen said:

sl, nasrallah took off his fancy gear, he’s been training.

behold, simo’s object of affection.

photo:

https://twitter.com/emmasuleiman/status/368777843049656322

Emma Suleiman:
currently in charge of the Syrian Coalition press office/ France

Omen will Syria’s future president be Majedkhaldoun and foreign affairs minister Emma Suleiman? The brightest “Syrian” intellectuals …

PS
Omen was it Emma herself with a Nassrallah mask in that picture? Can you ask her via Twitter? Or was that hmmmm well formed lady in the picture you Omen? Well anyway a cheap way to make excellent high level political propaganda. 🙂

August 18th, 2013, 5:53 pm

 

Syrialover said:

And UZAIR8, I am open to hearing how if Nasrullah is such a fine and serious representative of his religion he is supporting Assad and the Mullahs in Iran and not the citizens of those countries.

And happy to use the Shia in Lebanon as cannon fodder and sitting targets for things that do not really involve them.

Like all violent authoritarian “leaders” in the Middle East he created a fake image built on “resisting Israel”.

August 18th, 2013, 5:55 pm

 

omen said:

i knew you were a coward, simo.

August 18th, 2013, 6:04 pm

 

zoo said:

While Jarba in Turkey is spitting invectives, predictions and deadlines as ridiculous and pathetic as his predecessors, the Syrian Army is getting rid of more terrorists.

Syrian president confident of rooting out terrorism
Aug 19,2013
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=161074

DAMASCUS, Aug. 18 (Xinhua) — Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said Sunday his country is capable of rooting out terrorism, as government troops reportedly regained almost all of the contested countryside area of the coastal city of Latakia, the heartland of his rule.

Assad made the remarks when meeting with a visiting Mauritanian delegation, during which the embattled leader stressed that Syria welcomes all of the constructive efforts to solve the crisis and is determined to work jointly to beat terrorism that has engulfed the country for over 29 months.

The president’s confidence is built on the army’s recontrolling of the countryside of Latakia, which is deemed as the heartland of the Assad administration, according to media reports.

State-run SANA news agency said the army on Sunday regained the villages of Hambushieh, Ballotta, Sheikh Nabhan, al-Kharatta, al- Khanzorieh, Barouda, and Shaban Mountain in the northern countryside of Latakia.

Sunday’s victory came a day after the army recaptured the strategic villages of Beir al-Shakohi, Abu Makkeh in Latakia countryside.

August 18th, 2013, 6:07 pm

 

omen said:

sorry, uzair, i should have posted a not-suitable-for-work warning.

August 18th, 2013, 6:08 pm

 

zoo said:

The opposition is on a collision course with their last active Arab supporter, Saudi Arabia, because of their diverging view on Egypt: Saudi Arabia fully supports Al Sissi, the SNC says he is a criminal. Will the opposition loose their last ally?

Coup in Egypt has strengthened the hand of al-Assad, SNC’s Turkey representative says

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/coup-in-egypt-has-strengthened-the-hand-of-al-assad-sncs-turkey-representative-says.aspx?pageID=238&nid=52752&NewsCatID=352

ISTANBUL – Hürriyet Daily News
It once seemed likely that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad would quickly fall in Syria’s uprising, but increased Russian and Iranian support, and now the coup in Egypt, have given him a new lease on life, according to a senior member of the Syrian National Coalition. Arab rulers are trying to protect the status quo, Khaled Khoja says

yrian President Bashar al-Assad is increasingly back in business thanks to Egypt’s coup against the Muslim Brotherhood’s Mohamed Morsi, according to Syrian National Coalition (SNC) Turkey representative Khaled Khoja.

Egyptian coup leader Gen. Abdel Fatteh al-Sisi is taking al-Assad as an example as the Arab world and international community hesitates on supporting Syria’s opposition, he recently told the Hürriyet Daily News.

How will the coup in Egypt affect the situation in Syria?

It will affect it negatively, and it indeed already has. The movement of the Syrian opposition in Egypt is being limited [by the new rulers] and opposition figures are leaving the country. We are moving the headquarters of the Syrian National Coalition from Egypt to Turkey.

Politically, Bashar al-Assad has become a role model to Arab dictators. What al-Assad and the Shabiha [armed men in civilian clothing who support al-Assad] are to Syria, [Gen. Abdel Fatteh] al-Sisi and axmen [armed groups] are to Egypt.

A conviction is going around among Arab dictators that somehow the Arab Spring can be stopped. They include Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, which are in the group of the Friends of Syria. All of them have supported al-Sisi.
..
So do you say they have now changed sides?

There is a tendency to get rid of al-Assad but keep the regime. Maybe it was their policy line from the beginning. But the current findings and their support for al-Sisi show that what countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, et cetera fear is true change in the region. They are scared that if the Arab Spring reaches its aim, the wave will come to their shore. It is now crystal-clear that their tendency is about safeguarding the regimes in the region.

Would you say the coup has strengthened the hand of al-Assad?

Yes, because when you look at what al-Sisi is doing, he is taking al-Assad as an example. Al-Assad wanted to force the opposition to take up arms; so he sent armored vehicles in on people. He would then have an alibi [to oppress the uprising]. Al-Sisi is doing the same thing.

Al-Assad has used everything a regular army uses. Now he has changed strategy. He is using foreign fighters for irregular warfare.

August 18th, 2013, 6:15 pm

 

zoo said:

Saudi warns against pressurising Egyptian military over Islamist crackdown
August 18, 2013 10:37 PM
Reuters

PARIS: Saudi Arabia on Sunday warned the West against putting pressure on Egypt’s military-backed government to halt a crackdown on supporters of ousted Islamist President Mohamed Mursi.

“We will not achieve anything through threats,” Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal, told reporters through an interpreter during a visit to Paris.

The Saudi official made his comments after meeting French President Francois Hollande, who on Thursday called for a swift end to a state of emergency imposed by Egypt’s military authorities.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Aug-18/227784-saudi-warns-against-pressurising-egyptian-military-over-islamist-crackdown.ashx#ixzz2cMUWCzEs
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

August 18th, 2013, 6:18 pm

 

zoo said:

Majed

Can you explain with you deep knowledge of Sunni Islam what your Saudi Arabia friends are doing in Egypt? They are supporting the violent crackdown on the Islamists who are Sunni civilians. Shias and Christians are spared…
Don’t you think it is ‘haram’ coming from a country that is the craddle of Islam?

August 18th, 2013, 6:22 pm

 

zoo said:

It’s getting crowded in the jihadist Paradise

Advancing Syria army kills jihadist emir in Latakia

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=60792

Fierce fighting rages in Latakia province on Syria’s coastline as army pushes advance and kills jihadist leader.

“Scores of foreign (jihadist) fighters are being killed in the Latakia fighting,” he said.

Among them was a Libyan emir or local leader of ISIS, said the Observatory.

“Confirmed reports emerged of the killing of a Libyan ISIS emir while fighting in Jamusiyeh village,” said the Britain-based monitoring group.

August 18th, 2013, 6:27 pm

 

Syrialover said:

SIMOHURRTA #614

There you go, attacking the messenger to distract from the message.

It will make a brilliant poster. Laughter and mockery is the best torture that can be inflicted on Nasrullah and his kind.

They deny other humans freedom, respect and dignity. So why shouldn’t they be stripped of their own self-important version of dignity.

Here it is again for anyone who missed it:

https://twitter.com/emmasuleiman/status/368777843049656322

August 18th, 2013, 6:33 pm

 

mjabali said:

Observer:

I posted two responses to you few days ago, and for some reason they did not appear.

I could sum up my points in this:

1- You and I agree on MANY basic things regarding our country Syria: democracy and freedom. I could tell that you are a liberal person at heart. Some people could fake it, but, you seem to me a person who respects modern law and human rights. My beef with you is that we do not see the history of our area in the same manner.

2- As for the Syrian Identity: You seem to lean more to an “Arabic” identity for us Syrians. I see that unfair to my past as a person from the heartland of Syria. The Syrian identity was not born with Sykes Pickot, but before. It even existed before Islam and the invasion of Arabbness. There is even a language called Syriac, there are Assyrians. The word Syria came from one of those. The Greeks before the Romans called that land Syria, that was of course bigger than current Syria. I do not see my self and my family to come with the Arab invaders, or the Turks, or the Seljukes, or the Ottomans, or…. I see a connection to my past before that. The language my family speaks has the traces of pre Islam Syria.

3- As for what the Sheikh class had done in Syria: they have done what the ruler wanted them to do. As a matter of fact, most of them came with the rulers. Remember, these guys had too many kids, and they were privileged to study in the many schools in Damascus, for example, and later became the clergy. This class of clergy made sure to be hostile to the minorities. They took their land and brought people from other places: NOT ARABS. This is what causes problem till today, because no one stood against it, or challenged it to see how fit is this to this modern day and age.

4- I am not sectarian, but, I like to talk about sectarian issues in a new manner. I am very harsh on Islam, because of violent history with my group, which makes people hate my texts. We live in a new era and should speak in a new language that challenges the roots of the problems heads on. No beating around the bushes or dancing around. I grew up with Sunnis. Women in family are married to Sunnis. Men in my family married to Christians, and so on. I am from the new generation that knows that there are good people amongst all the sects.

5- Your invitation to work with you and others above the bigotry of sectarianism is a good call. I have no problem with this logic. I will participate. There are people on this board should join you also: people who are smart and love their country and do not stand for violence.

6- AS for what Obama could do for Syria: it is very simple: find a way to stop the war and have the Syrians sit together and reach a deal. This is simple. How you could do it: find a way, or get the people who are smart enough to do it. America is very strong in this time and age and should lead this turbulence away from Syria, a country that always provided fist class people into the American society. Syrians, as you know, are a good group of people and deserve their country to be saved from these maniacs ( from all parties) leading it to destruction.

7- The people of the region still live with the fights of the past. They should find a way to reach a modern law equals them all. This is the only solution to squash this sectarian, elitist, ethnic…etc problems. When you have them all equal and there is a policeman/women and a judge you reach safety.

August 18th, 2013, 6:34 pm

 

Syrian said:

Encouraging news about father Paolo
http://youtu.be/xMRJMzfYFxI

August 18th, 2013, 6:35 pm

 

mjabali said:

Tara:

Damascus was the Capital of the Ummayads. They were deposed by a public revolution. They were chased out and none of their kids came alter to claim a thing. They were foreigners to Syria, came by appointment. They were from the ARabian peninsula. Do you want someone form Saudi Arabia to rule Syria now? Isn’t this the ideas of the Jihadists?

The Ummayads were nothing but low cultured freaks who came to a very civilized place and destroyed it. When the Ummayads came to Syria: Syria was a very advanced Roman province that produced even Emperors for Rome: What did the Ummayads do to Syria: treat it like their own farm, while buying and selling the poor amongst the natives, making other Syrians pay tax to them and many other bad things.

On the other hand: let me examine your connection to the Ummayads: Nothing. You and your family came to Syria hundreds of years after the last Ummayds was killed. You came in maybe the 5th or 6th wave after the Ummayads.

How many invaders came to Syria since the Ummayads?

So, please stop fooling yourself.

August 18th, 2013, 6:41 pm

 

Mjabali said:

Syrian:

The history you know is mostly fake. The ruler always wrote it. They told many wrong things about what really happened. We live now in an age where the past is getting examined in many new manners.

What we are finding is that Islam was nothing but a tool for the ruler to either extract money from the natives by the excuse of taxation (Jiziyah), oppress the minorities, oppress women, make the population busy from achieving real education by making them believe in the supernatural more than since, and of course to put plans to dominate the world.???

The heroes you grew up idolizing are mostly criminals on todays standards.

August 18th, 2013, 6:46 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ZOO in #621 said about violence in Egypt: “Christians are spared”.

Huh? What?

Here’s your chance to unconfuse yourself and ditch that silly argument.

http://nilerevolt.wordpress.com/2013/08/14/1198/

One of many, many sources on what the Copts are suffering from Egyptian MB mobs.

The Saudis are against the MB. A bad thing?

Nowhere near as bad as the Iranian leadership sponsoring and directing Bashar Assad’s burning of Syria and its people.

August 18th, 2013, 6:46 pm

 

omen said:

625. Syrian said:

Encouraging news about father Paolo
http://youtu.be/xMRJMzfYFxI

what is being said???

August 18th, 2013, 6:47 pm

 

omen said:

Rebels have reportedly caputred the pilot of the MIG fighter jet downed earlier on Sunday evening after he parachuted down into the shrubs, according to our sources. Rebels immediately set on the tracks of the fallen pilot and eventually captured him alive.

[site wont let me post webpage.]

August 18th, 2013, 6:53 pm

 

Syrialover said:

# 626. MJABALI

If you are going to talk about racial groups and descendants and who belongs where and when, you should first get yourself one of those DNA ancestry tests.

You may be surprised. People usually are.

No excuses, get it done.

August 18th, 2013, 6:56 pm

 

Tara said:

Mjabali,

People genetic lineage is all mixed.  There is no “pure” genetic composition to any group of people.  Damascenes are the ancestors and heirs of the Umayads “by choice”.  The Umayads that built a huge empire from China to Spain and produced the nucleus that the Western civilization built on it its current civilization.  Damascenes can never be part of Alawistan.  They identify with the Arabic culture and the Arabic civilization and proud of it.

August 18th, 2013, 7:04 pm

 

omen said:

only a bigoted supremacist could turn a blind eye to assad slaughter.

right, mjabali?

August 18th, 2013, 7:04 pm

 

Syrian said:

Omen that he was about to be released twice last week, but internal conflicts within different groups have prevented it so far, so from the clip it appears that is alive, hopefully he will be a free man soon.

August 18th, 2013, 7:08 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Dear Syria Lover and Omen

🙂

On seeing the image that was my instinctive reaction which I thought I should register (and move on). I hesitated as I didn’t wish to (or appear to) contradict revolutionaries on SC or appear to be lecturing the revolution. I understand with what they have gone through and are going through if the Syrian people wanted to portray Mr Nasrallah in that way.

I had to avert my eyes of course. The nudity doesn’t help and may not go down well amongst many in the revolution and their supporters. Wouldn’t give a good impression of the revolution. Didn’t seem necessary.

I don’t regard Mr Nasrallah as any religious figure or arab hero.

Part of me wondered if this was Heaven humiliating him for his behaviour and particularly his recent determination to continue on his current course (and threats to escalate).

If that is the case then I pray to God Almighty to protect the lives and honour of those who are on HAQ (truth) and to humiliate those who are oppressing the people of Syria.

I didn’t wish to be a spoilsport or to argue. I may be right or I maybe wrong. Allah Knows best.

August 18th, 2013, 7:09 pm

 

omen said:

hope u dont mind me quoting you!

August 18th, 2013, 7:09 pm

 

Syrialover said:

This is a long excerpt to post but it says so much that is worth hearing and thinking about. A clear voice in the chaos.

Article: “A bad day for four leading Arab cities”

By Rami G. Khouri

EXCERPT:

Thursday of this week was a bad day in modern Arab history. The four leading Arab cities of recent eras – Baghdad, Damascus, Beirut and Cairo – were simultaneously engulfed in bombings or urban warfare, mostly carried out with brutal savagery and cruelty against civilians in urban settings.

Even more problematic is that the carnage was predominantly the work of Arabs, not foreign invaders. Our four greatest modern Arab cities are now routinely depicted around the world with scenes of bomb craters, flames and rows of dead bodies. Other Arab lands, such as Libya, Yemen, Palestine, Tunisia, Bahrain, Algeria and Sudan, are only slightly less chaotic. This is a dramatic and telling moment, but a moment that tells us what, exactly? Have we collectively failed the test of statehood? Modernity? Civility? Democracy? Independence? Sovereignty? Secularism?

We have had few real endings in this region in the past 6,000 years of urban life, but only perpetual transformations and reconfigurations of how identity, power and governance mesh together and evolve slowly year after year.

For those who do like neat historical markers, though, Thursday could easily be seen as a symbolic moment that marked a serious pause, a slight shift and a momentary regression in the uprisings and transformations that began in December 2010 in Tunisia, but really had started a generation earlier.

The old autocratic Arab order that had prevailed since the mid-20th century started to fray at the edges and atrophy in its center in the 1970s, as ruling elites turned into security regimes, and nationalist and developmental states turned into showcases of consumerism and corruption.

The overthrow or challenge of former regimes have not led to smooth transitions to democratic and pluralistic societies governed by the rule of law in any Arab country – yet.

The most important lesson we can learn from our messy transitions – this is the meaning of the suicide bombings or snipers’ bullets Thursday in Baghdad, Damascus, Beirut and Cairo – is that the six dominant regional phenomena that have defined the modern Arab world are totally inappropriate for creating modern pluralistic democracies. These six are religion (mainly Islamism), armed forces, resistance, sectarianism, Arabism and tribalism. These powerful shapers of personal identity and immensely effective instruments for mass mobilization and street activism are also utter failures as entry points into stable democratic states.

Egypt’s striking lesson today is that its two most powerful, organized and trusted groups – the Muslim Brotherhood and the armed forces – both proved to be incompetent in the business of governance. This is not because they do not have capable individuals and smart and rational supporters; they have plenty of those. It is rather because the ways of soldiers and spirituality are designed for worlds other than governance and equitably providing services and opportunities for millions of people from different religions, ideologies and ethnicities.

Our societies probably must pass through these moments of seeing military, religious, tribal and other groups try their hand at governing, and then also fight each other politically and militarily. They must do this and fail, as the military and the Muslim Brothers are doing in Egypt, in order to confirm over and over again that none of them are qualified to govern, or, more importantly, mandated by a majority of their citizens to rule on their own. The lack of other organized and credible indigenous groups of citizens that can engage in the political process and shape new constitutional systems is largely a consequence of how military officers, members of tribes, and religious zealots have dominated Arab public life for decades.

So it is no surprise that Egypt and other Arab lands have moved very quickly from revolutionary moments to civil wars. From these events, new and more rational political actors ultimately will emerge who can shape more stable governing orders – after entire societies are frightened, embarrassed and then humbled by the experience of their homegrown killing sprees and political immaturity.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Opinion/Columnist/2013/Aug-17/227591-a-bad-day-for-four-leading-arab-cities.ashx#ixzz2cMfXOOq0

August 18th, 2013, 7:11 pm

 

zoo said:

Syrian

I meant that the Egyptian army is not crushing the Christians or the Shias, they are crushing exclusively the Sunnis allied to the Moslem brotherhood.

I applaude anyone crushing the MB and other extremists. That’s why I applaude not only the Egyptian army, but also the Syrian Army and the Kurds in their courageous fights against these deadly viruses.

August 18th, 2013, 7:14 pm

 

zoo said:

As Islamist rebels rise in Syria, liberal activists take a step back Is it for a U-turn?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as-islamist-rebels-rise-in-syria-liberal-activists-take-a-step-back/2013/08/17/fa95d2e2-043a-11e3-bfc5-406b928603b2_story.html

BEIRUT — Two years ago as he hung cuffed to a wall in one of the Syrian intelligence service’s notorious detention centers, Anas Ghaibeh couldn’t have imagined a day when he’d doubt whether the regime should fall immediately. But now he says, he’s not so sure.

Like many youth activists who took to the streets to demand President Bashar al-Assad’s ouster in the spring of 2011, Ghaibeh, who is 28, says he feels as though the revolution has been hijacked, with al-Qaeda-linked foreign fighters playing an increasingly prominent role in challenging government forces. If the regime falls today, it is likely to bring only more chaos and bloodshed, he says, a difficult admission for someone who has already sacrificed so much in seeking its end.

They now have to fight on two fronts, they say — not just against the government, but also against extremist Islamist rebel groups, which, despite their supposedly shared aims, are increasingly targeting secular activists.

At a protest in Aleppo last week, demonstrators demanded the release of several activists detained by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, the newly expanded al-Qaeda in Iraq. The squeezing out of moderates is playing into the argument of Assad’s supporters that the only choice facing Syria is between his rule and that of Islamic extremists, says Mustafa Haid, the Beirut-based director of Dawlaty,

August 18th, 2013, 7:21 pm

 

zoo said:

After Idriss, Jarba ridicules himself with incoherent rants about the “collapse” of Bashar al Assad and ends up by begging for the magic wand of Western ‘sophisticated’ weapons that will save the opposition from its own “collapse”

BEIRUT: Opposition leader Ahmad Jarba says Syria is now being run by regime allies Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah, with President Bashar Al Assad out of the picture.

In an interview with Saudi-owned newspaper Al Hayat published yesterday, Jarba said Syrian rebels had seized control of “at least half” of the country, 29 months into an anti-Assad uprising.

Assad is “a killer and a criminal, and… he has collapsed,” the National Coalition chief charged.

Assad “no longer runs Syria. The real rulers of Syria are the Iranian (elite) Revolutionary Guard… with the participation of (Lebanese Shiite) Hezbollah fighters,” Jarba said.
….

Jarba said that supplying the rebel Free Syrian Army with sophisticated weaponry would “change the course of the revolution.”

August 18th, 2013, 7:28 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Simo said
“It is not a social or political revolution”,
Who is the naive? Simo you are either Naive or distorting facts because of your prejudice, I think the later.
You live in free country and democratic one yet you don’t want freedom for Syrian, the revolution started and still is for freedom and democracy, have you seen the FSA leaders or the SNC say it is anything but that?, you never uttered any condemnation of Assad even after the numerous massacres, even that you know for sure Assad and his regime have killed 150,000 Syrian and over 100,000 in jail, most likely the majority of them are dead, you blind yourself on facts and you hate Syrians and your hate to their religion is obvious.you are prejudiced person.
It is Assad who depicted this revolution as religious sectarian one.

August 18th, 2013, 7:32 pm

 

Syrian said:

Majabli
You are right about the history being written by the victor, because everything you learnt in Syrian Schools that we all read was written by the Ba’ath party members whom never mentioned any of the real modern Syria history pre Hafiz Alassad coup.And omitting the real heroes of Syria’s independence and made few gangsters the heroes of modern Syria.

Now about Islam, the biggest Muslim country Indonesia refute all your claims. Not one soldier set a foot in it and Islam spread through merchants. There are so many other examples but I won’t debate Islam with you .this is not the time nor the place.
And another thing you can not apply today’s standards to historical events. Jefferson was a slave owner. King Solomon or David had 99 wives,the Virgin Mary was pregnant at 12. and on and on.

August 18th, 2013, 7:37 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Nasrallah is supplying us with some good laughs this week.

Here’s a comment on a story about the Hezbollah mercenary militia king reacting to the bombing in Lebanon by blaming Israel while threatening to double Hezbollah forces in Syria:

“Nasrallah suggested there were two theories for the explosion. The first points the finger at Israel and the second at takfiri groups

“I think I’m finely starting to get it, the Israeli Hezbollah are fighting the Israeli Al-Qaida but according to the Israeli Turks the Israeli Persians are to blame for the whole mess! all the while the secular Israeli Egyptians are fighting the Israeli brotherhood in Egypt. So basically if Israel stops fighting it self there will be peace in the middle east :), I apologize if I left any other Israeli groups out.”

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/08/nasrallah-double-forces-syria.html

August 18th, 2013, 7:38 pm

 

zoo said:

The witch hunt on Moslem Brotherhood members in the GCC is on. Will Qatar offer them shelter or would they go back to the sewage?

Saudi prince sacks TV chief for Muslim Brotherhood ties
Prince Alwaleed bin Talal’s Twitter feed Prince Alwaleed tweeted a copy of the letter explaining Mr Suwaidan’s dismissal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23747381

A well-known Kuwaiti preacher, Tareq al-Suwaidan, has been sacked from his job as the director of a Saudi religious TV channel because of his links to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Channel owner Prince Alwaleed bin Talal said there was no place for Muslim Brotherhood members in his business.

Mr Suwaidan has been a fierce critic of Egypt’s military-backed government.

Saudi King Abdullah has, however, given strong backing to the new Egyptian administration

August 18th, 2013, 7:40 pm

 

revenire said:

I can’t wait for Majed to tell us that the Egyptian army isn’t Sunni.

August 18th, 2013, 7:42 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Syrian
Thanks for the news

Mjabali, You keep telling us your version of history , ignoring facts, was Zennobia not Arabic? she rulled 2300 years ago, Are the Ghassasineh and Manazera not Arabic?your distortion of history will not be believed spare yourself trying.

Is there any evidence that the Alawi mountain area has cities surrounded by walls ??? before 2500 year?, that is why Syria was named after,

Uzair
You are a good person

August 18th, 2013, 7:42 pm

 

omen said:

you have to be a twisted **** to watch assad slaughter 200,000 people with your only reaction is to bitch about zionist plots.

here, have a napkin, simo. you have to wipe off the slobber after you rant.

August 18th, 2013, 7:44 pm

 

revenire said:

Omen Assad didn’t slaughter anyone.

August 18th, 2013, 7:47 pm

 

zoo said:

Irony: The OIC chief is Turkish . Turkish government says that Morsi would have been a second Erdogan and saved Egypt, that’s why he was kicked out

Turkish government furious against OIC chief, calls for resignation

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-government-furious-against-oic-chief-calls-for-resignation-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52736&NewsCatID=338

Senior Turkish government officials have taken aim at the head of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, Turkey’s Ekmeleddin ?hsano?lu, for the organization’s inaction over the Egyptian army’s heavy crackdown on Muslim Brotherhood protesters, calling on him to resign for “dishonorable passivity.”

…?hsano?lu, a Turkish citizen, was elected as the secretary-general of the 57-member OIC in 2005 for a nine-year term after Turkish government exerted great effort for his election to the important international organization.

According to the deputy prime minister, both the OIC and the Arab League have failed on the Egyptian test, arguing that the OIC was not the organization of kings but of Islam. “Its original name contains the word Islam. How can an organization named after Islam remain silent against this kind of cruel killings of hundreds of women and children,” asked Bozda?.
….

‘They don’t want second Erdo?an in Egypt’

For Bozda?, an alliance of powerful Arab countries and Western countries has been built to prevent Egypt from becoming a “second Turkey” in the Middle East and to prevent Morsi from becoming a “second Recep Tayyip Erdo?an.”

August 18th, 2013, 7:48 pm

 

revenire said:

It’s funny to see them gnashing their teeth over Egypt. This has only strengthened the hand of Assad and Syria.

August 18th, 2013, 7:50 pm

 

Syrians said:

Zoo@638
I believe Your post should be addressed to Syrialover.

August 18th, 2013, 7:53 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Mjabali
Zenobia was 1800 year ago, her tribes Arabic tribe were there over 2000 year ago, long before Islam
Alawi did not exist before Ali, They started in the city of Taloqan 1200 year only,

August 18th, 2013, 8:11 pm

 

omen said:

I didn’t wish to be a spoilsport or to argue. I may be right or I maybe wrong. Allah Knows best.

amen.

August 18th, 2013, 8:28 pm

 

omen said:

227. zoo said: Selim Idriss, by appearing in the Latakia area just after the massacre of 60 women and children occurred, has totally discredited himself. In addition by claiming that this was a “victory” he was proud of, he admitted to be a direct accomplice to the crime.

do you have video evidence?

August 18th, 2013, 8:37 pm

 

Mjabali said:

Majedkhaldoun:

Alawis were another religion before they converted to become Alawis. Their main guys were based in Baghdad and Allepo, plus the missionary on the road. These cities you are inventing are the product of your imagination. Their story is easy to trace.

Before the Romans Syria did not speak the Arabic language that we call today Standard Arabic.

When the Muslims came to Syria, it was a different story. This is the truth you want to hide about Syria. Like Islam, they taught us that before Islam in the Arabian Peninsula it was “Jahiliyah” and in reality it was a different story.

The history books you learned are incorrect. I advice you to write new ones.

August 18th, 2013, 8:43 pm

 

mjabali said:

Omen:

You are trying to engage me in conversations all the time and you see that I am not interested in anything you say. You and I have nothing to talk about. I am in a different world than yours.

August 18th, 2013, 8:48 pm

 

mjabali said:

Syrialover:

It is important to know who is who when talking about Syria because there is Sectarian and ethnic cleansing happening. Syria is breaking up into possible ethinc lines (Kurds), or religious lines (Alawi State), so I guess we need to be open a little bit more.

They always tried to tell us that we, Syrians, are Arabs. We are not. They tried to implement many ideas, that were not true. Now, with this war going on, the real intentions of all are being shown. So, why not talk about things in the right manner?

August 18th, 2013, 8:52 pm

 

mjabali said:

Majedkhaldoun:

I have a surprise for you:

The Alawite Khayatin claim they are from the Ghassassaneh, and to tell you the truth their language may prove this claim.

August 18th, 2013, 8:56 pm

 

omen said:

40. Since the FSA and other Jihadis are so close to the Israeli border (even inside Golan), why haven’t they attacked Israel, even once?

habib, fsa doesn’t have enough fronts to fight on, they have to take on israelis too? why aren’t you on the battle front if you are so eager for a fight?

but now you’ve peaked my curiosity. i saw someone else raise this same question. what are fsa doing near there. are they working to establish another supply route?

And don’t give me “they are focusing on the regime” crap, because then they wouldn’t be fighting the Kurds now, would they

i didn’t like rebels being there either back when homs was being pounded. however, the fact of the matter is the regime is still being feed by oil reserves based in kurdish regions. so you cannot posture as if the the kurds are separate from the regime.

oh, there were some theories offered to your golan question.

https://twitter.com/RamiAlLolah/status/369159353481179136

August 18th, 2013, 8:59 pm

 

omen said:

mjabali, i never expect you to respond back. i enjoy goading you. live with it.

i do note, however, failure to deny a charge as tacit admission.

August 18th, 2013, 9:03 pm

 

Mjabali said:

Syrian:

1- The Ba’ath party version of history is funny to me, because the Ba’athists are not that educated to write history. But, I do not believe your conspiracy theory that they omitted figure and made heroes out of zeros. I do not think that Hafez al-Assad was reading the newest version of the history books. Baa’this logic is based on Stalin: not that much knowledge.

2- We are not talking about Indonesia. We are talking about Syria where many battles took place. Islam came to Syria with the invaders, why was there no Islam before they came? Historical studies, and you know the Romans had a very developed system when the Muslims arrives, never mentioned any form of Islam before the Muslims stormed. It was not Indonesia or Senegal. I heard this before. It is Syria. The Syrians paid taxes to the Muslims who came through the use of Force.

August 18th, 2013, 9:07 pm

 

mjabali said:

Tara:

The Ummayads were bad dictators. You love them because the represent the enemies of the Shia. It is very obvious. As for your link to them: I do not buy it. Your connection to them is like my connection to the Japanese.

Damascus is the Capital of the people from the part of the world that existed even before the Ummayads.

By the way: There were many Alawis in and around Damascus and they were cleansed from their and replaced with people from Asia and who knows where, do you really know this?

Do you know that there were hundreds of campaigns from Damascus to kill and displace the Alawites from around Damascus?

Do you know about the Fatwas of the 14th and 15th and 16th and 17th and 18th and the 19th and even the 20th C. on how you can not eat the food of the Alawis and how they could be even bought and sold?

Do you know that there are even Fatawas about why Allah permitted the cutting of the trees of the Aalwites around Damascus?

Do you know how many Alawite villages were there in the Golan and Southern Syria in the 11th and 12th C?

Where are they now? Who live there now?

Do you think we do not know the real history of Syria?

August 18th, 2013, 9:17 pm

 

mjabali said:

Omen:

If you read what I write you would know where i stand. I know where everyone stands in this board. Almost all of us here know where almost everyone stands but you? So, why should I talk to you?

I told you we belong to two different worlds. You remind me with al-Assad’s TV: it use to start the 8;30 news many nights with a letter of condemnation for an even in far away land. Syrians would understand me more than you. We have nothing in common.

To the Syrians: How many times you heard this on the news:

??????? ??????? ??????? ???? ????? ?????? ?????????? ?????????…

????? ??????? ??????? ????? ??????? ??? ??????? ??…

August 18th, 2013, 9:26 pm

 

omen said:

you’re a snob, a bigot & a supremacist, mjabali. of course it’s beneath you to talk to me.

it’s this very attitude of superiority that’s fueling the killing of thousands. sunnis are a sub species.

now go back to your lecture about how you are the world’s biggest victim.

August 18th, 2013, 9:42 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

MJabali
Do you deny also that the Ghassanide were Arab?,and they were in Syria long before Islam?

What brought Greek and Romans to Syria? it was military invasion, can you deny that? Romans invaded Syria which was Arabic, it is natural for an Arabic Islamic forces to kick the Romans away, it was a liberation act

August 18th, 2013, 9:49 pm

 

omen said:

191. habib said: Salafistes are now surrounding Israel from Sinai and the Golan, no one is hindering them from attacking Israel…Damn hypocrites. If they can attack the Kurds, they sure as hell could attack the Israelis too. But they don’t want to upset their masters in the Gulf, who are direct allies wit the Zionists.

speaking of alliances…

Iran-Iraq pushing for Syria’s balkanization

Quoting from Kuwait’s al-Seyassah newspaper, Baghdad’s Shafaq News reported August 9, “Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki notified KRG President Masoud Barzani that the Assad regime is not against Peshmerga forces entering northern Syria to defend Syrian Kurds against attacks by al-Qaeda.
“A highly-placed Kurdish source in Baghdad said Iranian leaders, together with the Iraqi premier, are putting pressure on Barzani to stop supporting the Syrian revolution and back Assad’s regime… especially that al-Qaeda poses a threat to both Irbil and Baghdad.”
All this highlights the potential for Peshmerga, Syrian Kurd, Iranian and Iraqi forces banding together to help Assad win his presumed war on Takfiris, Jihadists and al-Qaeda — at least in Western Kurdistan.
Israel
Separately, Lazar Berman wonders in his think piece for The Times of Israel this week: “Is a free Kurdistan, and a new Israeli ally, upon us?”

August 18th, 2013, 9:50 pm

 

omen said:


Alawites in Turkey
:

BBC: Alawite’s representative in England says they’re not part of Islam. Interesting show!

August 18th, 2013, 10:06 pm

 

Tara said:

Mjabali

“You love them because the represent the enemies of the Shia”

Incorrect. Like all Syrians I know, I do not have a sectarian drop of blood in me. I never thought of myself as a Sunni until the Sunnis experienced ethnic cleansing at the hand of your sect aided by Shiaa Lebanese and somewhat by Shiaa Iraqi under the auspice of the Malalis in Iran. It is only then, like other Syrians, when I developed awareness of being Sunnis and resentment towards those who supports Assads mostly Alawis, Shiaa, and Christians. It is only now that I would not want to do anything with Alawis lest they cheered and supported the killing.

Play a victim all you want. You will not be taken seriously. The whole world now knows who is oppressing who.

August 18th, 2013, 10:08 pm

 

Syrian said:

Majbali:
1-I still remember how in the school history book talked about Syria’s history from 1945 to 1970 with ,2 sentences, it said “from 1945 to 1971 there were many military coups then the glorious revolution of march 8 happened in 1970 hafiz Alassad made the correction movement”
2; in your earlier post you talked about Islam and you did not mention Syria once, that is why I brought that example.

Now about Islam being spread by force,it is a fact that no more than 50 to 75 thousands fighters came out from the Arabian Peninsula in the 7th century to “invade” the world not just Syria,within less than 60 years they controlled half the old known world,so now tell me how can this small group force all these populations by force? while at the same time fighting the Byzantine empire for another 800 years?
why right now Islam is the fastest growing religion while it is at is weakest point in its existence?
now about Syria, Syria is 90 years old there was no Syria before that, there was the Levant that included Lebanon Jordan and Palstian.It was Hafiz Alasad who pushed the arabsim down our throat, not the other way around, and he who erased Syria’s identity, so sects within Syria doesn’t get to know each other better.But now you are blaming Islam for all Syria’s ills,
finally a piece of advice don’t live too much in the past, the past is dead and will not come back.

August 18th, 2013, 11:08 pm

 

revenire said:

Syria’s Assad determined to ‘eradicate terrorism’; army killed jihadist leader
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_08_18/Syrias-Assad-determined-to-eradicate-terrorism-army-killed-jihadist-leader-5766/

Assad made his remarks during a meeting with a visiting delegation of Mauritanian party leaders in Damascus.

He said “the cohesion between our heroic army and the people” would help Damascus defeat the rebellion, according to SANA.

Assad’s latest remarks come two weeks after he promised in a rare speech to strike out “terrorism” with an “iron fist”.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_08_18/Syrias-Assad-determined-to-eradicate-terrorism-army-killed-jihadist-leader-5766/

August 19th, 2013, 12:03 am

 

Ghufran said:

Jarba is saying that the next few months will be decisive and that rebels will finish the regime and force it to leave on his terms. We have heard this before from the previous 3 heads of the SNC and the NC but we have not seen any game changing victory for the rebels who lost Q’sair , could not control aleppo and only managed to alienate the Kurds and their own supporters in the West. One has to wonder what objectives jarba and his backers have to end this war, from what I see it looks like the regime and the rebels are getting closer to dividev Syria or keep the war waging for another 3 years or longer, the faster the two parties realize that it is better to stop now the better but all indications point to the latter scenario. Jarba said the rebels, we all know he meant nusra, controlled 50% of Syria ( rebels used to say 70%), to me that is enough to achieve a ” balance” unless jarba thinks that the regime and its friends will allow the other half to fall . The delay of Geneva 2 was a way to give fighters from both sides another few months to score more victories but I doubt that either side will get what they want, jarba and assad need to start preparing their friends to talk to the enemy unless they want to destroy what is left of Syria, the attack on Latakia failed and I think the rebels will end up losing more territories and the coast may become Q’sair 2, downing a Mig or destroying few tanks is too little too late, the biggest challenge will be how to get rid of those terrorists jarba’s friends brought to Syria. Syrians will eventually understand that they need to stop fighting but that is not true for Islamists who believe they can not lose because God is on their side !!

August 19th, 2013, 12:23 am

 

Syrialover said:

Hey guys, get it straight. The Romans had long faded as a force in the Middle East before Islam was even created.

And MJABAIL is fretting about what happened to Alawis way, way back. But it seems they came later but got a more lasting deal in the region than Christians and Jews, both of which had deeper, wider and earlier roots there than Alawis.

Christianity went on to become the world’s biggest religion, but what happened to the lines of Christians who originated in the Syrian region, were there in larger numbers than anywhere else and had some of their earliest and most significant churches there? They would have been converted or been edged out by various Muslim forces who came in waves from outside the area.

And everybody took a beating from the Mongols.

History will probably show the worst turn of fate for the Alawis was Hafez Assad’s coup which branded and captured them into an identity that has put them in hell today. It might have given some a quick ride to unearned riches and power and guaranteed employment but also served other Alawis badly.

August 19th, 2013, 12:25 am

 

omen said:

the biggest challenge will be how to get rid of those terrorists jarba’s friends brought to Syria.

then why am i reading from analysts that the gulf states are pressuring jarba to fight nusra/isis? hinging promises of support & delivery of arms on the condition fsa do so?

August 19th, 2013, 2:47 am

 

apple_mini said:

Thanks MJABALI for your extensive knowledge about Syria and her people. You did stir up hornet’s nest among those Syrian expats and international “volunteers”.

Of course we really don’t care about some hornets. We do hope more Syrians could be aware of the history and have more understanding about local religions and sects. Therefore they could have more tolerable views regarding their neighbors.

August 19th, 2013, 5:45 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

I Stand for Accurate Ancient Syrian History NewZ

If you read what I write you would know where i stand.

Mjabali,

I have no clue about where you stand. Here’s a challenge for you: Why don’t you tell us “where you stand” in one or two sentences?

Drum roll please….

August 19th, 2013, 7:19 am

 

don said:

You call us TOWEL-HEADS on Syria Comment and you want a drum roll! You little insignificant Israeli racist!

675. Akbar Palace said: .. Drum roll please

August 19th, 2013, 7:36 am

 

Uzair8 said:

666 Omen

Dear Damien

LOL. It isn’t necessary to comment however I couldn’t resist this rare alignment. I may as well say a little more.

It was just a case of personally distancing myself from any controversy. I read (or particpate in) a few Shia forums (incl Shiachat) and I know there will be many Shiite people around the world who oppose Assad and Hezbo involvement. There are a couple of users on Shiachat who hold such a stance and their fair minded approach goes a long way in embarrassing the stance of the Assad supporters. An image like that could put them in an awkward situation. Others may respect Hezbo/Mr Nasrallah though strongly oppose their involvement.

[Shia] Assad supporters may in their usual twisted way try to use the image to portray the revolution and it’s supporters as immoral. They’ll try to gain the moral high ground however they can’t do it with me as I can say to them with honesty I’ve distanced myself from the image (on SC). I can continue to engage with them on the real issues and avoid their attempts to conveninently distract (said image) from Assad and Hezbo crimes.

We try to pin them down and pressure their weak stance however irrelevant/unnecessary stuff gives them a distraction, an escape route.

Majed Khaldoun

Dear Majed. I wish I was a good guy. You guys are the real heroes.

August 19th, 2013, 7:50 am

 

Hopeful said:

It is obvious that the majority of the participants on this forum are expats who have been living in the West for a long time.

What is shocking to me is the sectarian nature of the current discussions. If the expats are dealing with the crisis in this manner, after living for years in open free societies that respect human rights and the rule of law, what do we expect from the people who have lived under a repressive regime and the rules of nepotism and sectarianism?

I have made it very clear where I stand: I blame the regime first and foremost for its utter failure in managing the crisis, for its brutality and disregard for basic human rights, for turning friends into enemies, and for failing to transition Syria out of a 50-year rule of a repressive regime at a time when the rest of the world have managed to move into a new era.

Having said that, I am keenly aware that the current crisis is also a result of deep social, economical and religious problems that simmered under the surface for decades, and we are sticking our heads in the sand if we pretend otherwise. When I was in college in Damascus in the 80’s, it was inconceivable for a middle class Sunni woman from Damascus to get engaged to an Alawi, a Christian, a Palestinian, a Kurd, a “villager” or even a Sunni man from another city in Syria. I hear things got even worst in the 90’s and 2000’s. So what kind of tolerance and co-existance are you guys talking about?

Many topics were taboo’s: religion, sex, Israel (other than bashing it), Arab identity, Islam, etc. It was not the regime that banned these discussions, it was the Syrian society itself.

The Syrian society had many illnesses. The suppressive regime only made it worst, but it did not create many of them.

For hundreds of years, European nations fought wars among themselves and within themselves. They had similar diseases. It took two major bloody wars and millions dead to cure these diseases and start raising new generations who’ve learned the true meaning of tolerance and co-existence. I fear a similar fate for the Middle East.

August 19th, 2013, 7:54 am

 

zoo said:

Idriss’s militias’s “fiasco for the liberation of the Syrian coast”

http://www.france24.com/en/20130819-syria-army-recaptures-all-rebel-positions-latakia

Syrian army recaptures all rebel positions in Latakia
© AFP
The Syrian army has recaptured all rebel-held positions in President Bashar al-Assad’s home province of Latakia, state media said Monday. A Syrian security force said the army still had to retake the Salma region, a key area on the Turkey border.

The Syrian army has recaptured all rebel-held positions in Latakia, President Bashar al-Assad’s home province, state-run SANA news agency reported Monday quoting a military source.

“The army retook control of the Nabi Ashia mountain range and adjoining areas in the north of Latakia province,” the source said, of villages seized in early August by rebels trying to topple Assad.

On Sunday state television reported that the army had reclaimed rebel-held villages in the coastal province, hinterland of Assad’s minority Alawite community.

A Syrian security force, however, told AFP the army still had to recapture the Salma region, a strategic area along the border with Turkey that has been in rebel hands since the end of last year.

Rebels positioned in remote enclaves in Latakia’s mountains launched the “battle for the liberation of the Syrian coast” about two weeks ago.

August 19th, 2013, 8:02 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Shabeeha and Shopping Malls

Was there recent mention of shopping malls opening up? Folk (and shabeeha) rushing to the opening day offers and general life being back to normal?

Couldn’t help think of a Clash number. The first half of the third line sums up the Shabeeha. Happy shopping, Shabeeha.

Lost In The SupermarketClash

I’m all lost in the supermarket, I can no longer shop happily
I came in here for that special offer, guaranteed personality
I wasn’t born so much as I fell out, nobody seemed to notice me
We had a hedge back home in the suburbs over which I never could see
I heard the people who lived on the ceiling scream and fight most scarily
Hearing that noise was my first ever feeling, that’s how it’s been all around me
I’m all lost in the supermarket, I can no longer shop happily
I came in here for that special offer, a guaranteed personality

[…]

August 19th, 2013, 8:05 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Duplicate

August 19th, 2013, 8:05 am

 

Syrialover said:

Story: Iranians split on supporting Assad

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/08/iranians-split-on-supporting-assad.html

Comment: Most Iranians don’t know what is being done in Syria with their resources and in their name. It’s a topic that’s censored in their domestic press and about issues most Iranians don’t care about or aren’t aware of.

August 19th, 2013, 8:10 am

 

zoo said:

676. omen

That’s exactly the point. Saudis and the West are pressuring Jarba to stop looking at Al Nusra as friends but as enemies and fight them. That is the condition they are putting to supply heavy weapons.

Knowing how weak and limited the “good” FSA fighters are, Jarba is aware that without Al Nusra fighters, the whole FSA will be crushed either by the Syrian Army and by the Al Nusra itself with or without ‘magical’ weapons.
Thus his hesitation waltz and his call for ‘national army’.
For me, he is trapped and the FSA is doomed.

August 19th, 2013, 8:13 am

 

zoo said:

685. Syrialover

What about Turks? Egyptians?

August 19th, 2013, 8:14 am

 

zoo said:

More military fiascos for the rebels, more boasting on ‘blows’ to the regime. .

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/rss/217138–aa-broadcasts-assads-last-castle-in-aleppo

Commander of the front Abu Hamza, who carried out an operation to Minnig military airport, told AA in an exclusive interview that they dealt a blow to the regime by obtaining the significant military area in the north.

August 19th, 2013, 8:20 am

 

zoo said:

Hopeful

Of course all old societies have their flaws and their inertia. Among the neigbouring countries, Syria stood as a much more open and tolerant society than Jordan, the GCC, Turkey and Iran.
Most foreigners visiting from other neigboring countries were surprised to see how Syrians were much more relaxed about social tabus and gender equality.
Even Turkey that claim to be ‘modern’ in Istanbul and Bodrun is still a very backward society as far as social, religious and gender tabus.
I don’t think the Baath party increased the social tabus, I think it did quite the contrary. Bashar Al Assad a alawite gave a good example by marrying a Sunni and mixed marriages are very common in Syria. I don’t know how much this is true in Turkey, Kuwait or in Saudi Arabia.
Where the Baath party failed is in economical justice as, keeping the monopole of power for too long, it naturally got corrupted.

August 19th, 2013, 8:41 am

 

zoo said:

Has Lebanon finally decided to retaliate on rebels rockets hitting its territory?

Lebanon Army ordered to respond to Syrian attacks
August 19, 2013 02:25 PM (Last updated: August 19, 2013 03:05 PM)
By Nafez Kawas

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2013/Aug-19/227846-lebanon-army-ordered-to-respond-to-syrian-attacks.ashx#ixzz2cQ1mimzo

August 19th, 2013, 8:50 am

 

zoo said:

Al Qaeda group tells Israel not to worry

It was surprising, therefore, to hear a spokesman of the group – which is suspected of having links to al-Qaida – talk over the phone to correspondents of the Times of Israel, promising that “(t)he Yarmouk Martyrs Brigade has no international aspirations; we are only in conflict with the Assad regime.” The spokesman, Laeth Horan, even went a step further: “There is nothing between us and Israel. We only have demands of Assad, even after the war.”

Read more here: http://www.islandpacket.com/2013/08/19/2637103/uri-dromi-history-and-the-war.html#storylink=cpy

August 19th, 2013, 8:56 am

 

zoo said:

Iran foreign ministry: “The region and the world need to prevent further spread of radicalism”

Interview with Iran’s Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif:

http://www.payvand.com/news/13/aug/1128.html

Unfortunately, we have been witnessing a severe escalation of domestic conflicts in Egypt during the past few days in which hundreds of innocent people have lost their lives. As a result, it is not only incumbent on us to find a way to put an end to the ongoing crisis in Egypt, but a more serious need of the region and the world is to prevent further spread of radicalism by taking advantage of the indigenous models of democracy.

August 19th, 2013, 9:08 am

 

zoo said:

Even the OIC believes that the Turkish officials are getting paranoid about Erdogan’s international isolation on the subject of Egypt

OIC head rebuffs criticisms of Turkish officials

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/oic-head-rebuffs-criticisms-of-turkish-officials.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52801&NewsCatID=359

The chief of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) Ekmeleddin ?hsano?lu has rebuffed criticisms from senior Turkish government officials over his stance on Egypt’s crackdown.

The secretary-general said that what was happening in Egypt was disproportionate force and a violation of human rights. “I demanded the release of Mr. [Mohamed] Morsi a day after his ouster on July 3 and offered mediation but they chose the European Union … I’m astonished how they criticize and sentence us easily by not taking into account those statements and incidents,” ?hsano?lu wrote.

August 19th, 2013, 9:18 am

 

zoo said:

Is the opposition in Syria heading in the same direction?

“Egyptians have turned from looking at the Muslim Brotherhood as a political organisation to looking at it as a gang of killers who have been holding people hostage”

http://gulfnews.com/news/region/egypt/xenophobia-on-the-rise-in-polarised-egypt-1.1221600

August 19th, 2013, 9:24 am

 

apple_mini said:

A travel agent we know of told us today that they recently have many clients coming back from Egypt and Jordan. Partially due to worsened situations in those areas.

And for some reasons the magic lure of Damascus is irresistible for Damascenes. Even the war is still raging, as long as the regime is confidently holding the area, people do trust the regime and the SAA for security. And they won’t hesitate to come back.

Nowadays, rent in Damascus keeps climbing up. People who rent out their properties constantly in touch of realty agents to keep their rents updated. Not so kind for others who don’t own their home.

Market rules. Price of properties did not crush as some had feared.

August 19th, 2013, 9:48 am

 

revenire said:

Jarba won’t be able to create a “national army” – this is delusional thinking. It is for show, for the West’s dreams.

August 19th, 2013, 10:07 am

 

revenire said:

Akbar Palace after calling Muslims “towel heads” why do you even bother coming here any longer?

August 19th, 2013, 10:11 am

 

apple_mini said:

Earlier this year, we made comments and predictions that if the rebels decided to attack Lattakia, they would not be able to succeed from the mountain areas. The landscape did not provide advantage to those militarily poorly equipped and commanded but zealous insurgents. Unlike some Sunni villages where the rebels can set foot and build bases. Alawite regions have no support for the insurgents.

This time what the rebels have achieved militarily? Having massacred hundreds of poor villagers and destroyed their ancestry homes, the rebels provoked even hardened determination by the regime and SAA to crush them and further alienated themselves from even more Syrians.

After SAA retakes Salma, the rebels will lose more than what the started.

August 19th, 2013, 10:13 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Apple-Mini

You really ought to trim that hedge obstructing your view. It’s been long overdue.

August 19th, 2013, 11:15 am

 

revenire said:

The only thing the “revolution generation” will get in Latakia is their death.

August 19th, 2013, 12:27 pm

 

Syrian said:

As I predicted last week, the coastal battle is a win win situation for the Oppositions,the latest figures from the Tishreen military hospital morgue in the city Latakia are 900 dead mostly militia fighters from that area, while the latest figures from Jehadi sites are 160 mostly forigners from Jordan and chichnia,
in the main time the new Syrian army is being prepared carefully.

This preview to the future liberation of the coast have shown very interesting points,
1 The orignal defenders of the mountain had run away at the 1st sign of trouble,
2, Assad had to pull big forces from other areas to protect his home turf.
3 Assad will use the same strategy of destroying a village to liberate it even if it’s in his supporting areas.

August 19th, 2013, 1:26 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Syrian
there is another point
The regime and its Dunia channel and propagandists are not telling the truth,because the news are demoralising

August 19th, 2013, 1:46 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

In Egypt the court said now Mubarak will be freed tomorrow
That is what the new coup is all about

August 19th, 2013, 1:54 pm

 

Mjabali said:

Syrian:

Your “analysis” of what had happened in the coast is missing these points:

1- Sunnis are hurt because of your adventure. Salma and Doreen are getting destroyed. The number of casualties amongst the Sunnis, Civilians and fighters is high. Many many foreigners were killed.

2- There are many Alawite and Murshidi refugee from the twelve or so villages that were attacked. They are in Lattakia now adding to the other refugees taking shelter in Lattakia and its immediate surroundings. This adventure, planned by a bunch of kooks constituted more danger for the Sunnis too, as anyone could see.

3- The Alawite hostages are still in the hands of the kidnappers, but al-Assad’s forces is sparing no time destroying the most beautiful part of Syria.

August 19th, 2013, 1:57 pm

 
 

mjabali said:

Akbar Palace:

I have no idea why you are trying to chat me up and want to know where I stand. I read two sentences of yours and could tell you where you stand.

But, I will spare you today the toil of using your brain and will put it in front of your eyes:

I am an independent like many Syrians who does not like most of the parties in this fiasco that is taking my country to the bottom of hell.

August 19th, 2013, 2:01 pm

 

Tara said:

Yup.

Refugees are returning back from Egypt and Jordan and they are hitting Zara. You are now waiting an hour to be rung at the cash registry. Zara corp should be contacted on behalf of the Syrian government and should be asked to open a second branch.

August 19th, 2013, 2:10 pm

 

Mjabali said:

Tara:

LOL

You said in the same paragraph that you are not sectarian yet later came back and said why you hate all of those other sects and accuse the Alawis with sectarian cleansing.

Here are some points to you:

1- al-Assad does not represent the Alawis. He and his group represent themselves, and their family. He has many Sunnis working for him from day one.

2- al-Assads father and son never adopted anything that could be called an Alawi ideology. They tried to pass themselves as Sunnis, to the Sunnis, who never accepted them as such.

3- The Sunnis always looked at al-Assads as Alawites, Kafirs who are supposed to be killed. The line of Fatwas the Sunnis has from the days of Ibn Taymiyah till today is a witness to what I say. There was always decrees to kill the Alawis.

4- al-Assad, till today is doing what he is doing for the namesake of Syria. He is using all bluffs to keep his role. You should know this, but the sectarian way of thinking makes you never accept this and always look at al-Assads as peasants nothing more ore less.

5- There are many Sunnis in al-Assad Forces.

6- Your sectarian rants against the Shia Iranians are witness to how you think.

7- The Fatwas your ancestors kept are the real witness to the ethnic and sectarian cleansing of the natives of Syria.

8- I represent myself and no one else, and in a larger group I am an ordinary Syrian citizen whose religion is not the business of anyone.

9- You stated your support to terrorizing Alawite civilians. I never and will never advocate any terror against any civilian no matter what party they are on.

10- Criminals from all parties should stand in front of an international court.

August 19th, 2013, 2:13 pm

 

mjabali said:

Omen:

Stop whining and kicking like a child while calling me names. You have no logic or knowledge to engage someone like me about Syria. We are in two different worlds.

I am not interested into wasting my time with a freak like you.

We have two different interests and they do not meet.

Again you remind me of the Ba’thi newscast.

August 19th, 2013, 2:16 pm

 

Syrain said:

Majed:
I’m more surprised that you still watch Dunia than the news about it.

August 19th, 2013, 2:31 pm

 

mjabali said:

Syrialover:

The Alawis became Alawis around the 11C. They were Christians, or some other old religion before that. They did not come from the moon. If you read their main book for example you will see how the Alawi missionaries used myth from the old beliefs to make them believe in the Alawi way. Read al-Hidayah al-Kubra by al-Khasibi and see the influence of other local religions mixed with the new interpretation.

August 19th, 2013, 2:32 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

One thing will have impact on Syria and Egypt, it is blocking the Sues Canal, it will be devastating to Egypt economy, it will cause increase in the price of oil,,which will benefit Russia,and Libya, and Hurt KSA and the Gulf states and Persia.
Obama will consider that damaging to US security and will interfere.

August 19th, 2013, 2:33 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Syrian
I rarely watch Dunia,we have Mini apple here it is Dunia channel

August 19th, 2013, 2:36 pm

 

syrian said:

Majbali
this is not my Adventure,but I’ll forgive your poor choice of words,

It seems like someone tricked the jehadist into this battle, by supporting them at the start then cutting them off afterword,why I dunno, is it to test Assad defences,is it to get ride of Jehadist.or is it to allivate the pressure on other places? , not clear yet.

Too bad Assad is destroying that beautiful area,I know it very well.

August 19th, 2013, 2:40 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed Obama is already interfering in Egypt.

August 19th, 2013, 2:45 pm

 

revenire said:

Muslim Brotherhood must be removed like Nazis, Egypt’s ambassador to Britain says

Exclusive: Egypt’s ambassador to Britain has said the military-led offensive on the opposition set out to be no different from the British response to the 2011 London riots, but turned bloody when the Muslim Brotherhood started firing on the security forces.

“Morsi was elected president and held office for one year but in that time he tried to make everything Muslim Brotherhood controlled. Egyptian culture over 5,000 years is a mix of religions and civilisations in which the Islamic religion is one ingredient of the Egyptian character,” he said. “The Muslim Brotherhood are like a Nazi group that demand that everything changes and people everything to their way.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/10252399/Muslim-Brotherhood-must-be-removed-like-Nazis-Egypts-ambassador-to-Britain-says.html

August 19th, 2013, 2:49 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

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August 19th, 2013, 3:20 pm

 

Tara said:

Mjabali,

Resenting Alawis and others who are committing ethnic cleansing against the people in Syria is not sectarianism. It is rather an expected reaction and is normal. Sectarianism is hating people because of their religion or sect not because of their crimes. Please use the dictionary and look up what
sectarianism means.

And again stop playing the victim. Exposing the Alawis crimes against the people in Syria is just stating the facts. It is not sectarianism . You are trying to hide behind your minority status and accuse people of sectarianism when they are merely describing facts on the ground. Do you think one’s minority status should prevent non-minority from calling spade a spade?

And by the way, I do find you sectarian. Not because you keep mentioning Ibn Taymieh and related fatwas, rather because you are blaming the current Syrian Sunnis for it. You hate the current Sunnis not because of what they did, you hate them because they are Just Sunnis by birth and that is sectarianism at its glory.

I introduced to you a very simple concept. Please let me know if you have a difficulty understanding the difference.

August 19th, 2013, 3:24 pm

 

revenire said:

There are no Alawi crimes against the Syrian people. Suggesting there are is precisely why you are one of the biggest sectarians here Tara (you’re also quite arrogant and try to deride anyone who disagrees with you).

The majority of Syrians support Assad and the SAA or they would have been defeated years ago. The majority of the army is Sunni.

August 19th, 2013, 3:40 pm

 

Syrialover said:

HOPEFUL #678

Thank you for your thoughtful and informed comment.

I always look for your posts when I come to this forum. Your insights and observations are a refreshing relief in the mess of other comments here.

What you say about Syrian social attitudes is true to some extent, but such things are a symptom of social and economic stagnation and underdevelopment. And where there is little openness and sharing of ideas and a poor education system.

You even got ZOO inspired to admit in #686 that the Assad regime failed in economic matters.

The post-Assad leadership has a responsibility to help create a change of attitudes and perspectives of people. For example by doing things like stamping out corruption and giving people an alternative vision and hope for the future. Especially to the younger generation who are the vast majority of Syrians.

Syria is going to need leaders who are 5,000% stronger intellectually, morally and in emotional maturity than those idiots who took the helm in Tunisia and Egypt.

August 19th, 2013, 3:46 pm

 

Tara said:

Reve,

You do not even admit that Batta has killed anyone. Do you?

If your answer is no he hasn’t, there is no point of this discussion.

Calling spade a spade is not sectarianism. It is merely stating facts. Attempt to bully people from stating such facts is attempting to use one’s minority status to achieve impunity.

August 19th, 2013, 3:47 pm

 

revenire said:

Tara I’ve known you for a long time and know how you operate. You are on one side: the sectarian one.

You deny the army is majority Sunni?

August 19th, 2013, 3:58 pm

 
 

Hopeful said:

#717 Syrianlover

Thank you.

You are correct on both accounts. Unfortunately a new generation is currently being raised on sectarian hatred and violence, not just in Syria but all over the Arab world. I grew up drinking hatred and resentment towards the Jews, and glorifying fighting wars against Israel. It took me years to cleanse my soul from this nonsense. Now Syrian kids on all sides are growing up with hatred towards other sects and celebrating the glorious battles against them. The regime did manage to turn the revolution into a sectarian civil war, and unfortunately I see and hear many in the opposition today row the boat in the same direction.

August 19th, 2013, 4:29 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

705. Mjabali

Although you are deeply sectarian defending the alawite medieval tribe I agree with you JABALI, ASSAD as all the criminals should stand in front of an international court.

August 19th, 2013, 4:45 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

In Lebanon Hezb Zballah is nervous. From one side they are losing in the syrian front lots of men that took long years to prepare, and that will cost millions of dollars in terms of compensations to their families. From another side they are under attack in their own home without enough men to keep security measures. For the first time in 30 years this so-called Shiite Party that acts like a Mafia, is being targeted the way Hezb Zballah has been targeting all their political rivals. Do not forget all the good and brilliant men killed by HA in Lebanon and in Syria too, specially with car planted bombs and pistolers . Now it is the turn of the Mafia HA to receive what they have been causing for 30 years, death, chaos and disgrace. They thought their rivals were not brave enough as to come and kill them. Now all has changed.

August 19th, 2013, 4:53 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

720. revenire

Take a rest, you need some sleep. Tomorrow you will see clearer that Assad is over and his supporters too.

August 19th, 2013, 4:56 pm

 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

Violence is getting worse in Egypt, along with lack of fair investigations,this will create tension among Egyptions,this means more violence and more death

In Syria the coast battle is far from over, they wish that , they dream, but reality there will be more fight there.
Hundreds of HA death,and Shabbiha.

August 19th, 2013, 6:37 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

BBC Mid-East Desk: 0 Akbar Palace: 1

If only the MSM would be objective:

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{Complaint:} The third article on your BBC MIddle East website is titled:

“Rouhani laments Jerusalem “wound”. After clicking on this title, it takes
you to the article which is now titled, “Iran’s Rouhani calls Israel
occupation ‘old wound’ on Islamic world”.

Which begs the question, “Is Jerusalem the wound or is it the “occupation”.

Your quote from Rouhani states:

“Speaking at a rally, Mr Rouhani said: “There is an old wound on the body of
the Islamic world, under the shadow of the occupation of the holy lands of
Palestine and Quds [Jerusalem].”

You have an obligation to inform your readers that for Rouhani, “the
occupation” means ALL OF ISRAEL, and not just a few square miles of the West
Bank where peace talks with the Palestinians are in progress.

YNet’s translation is QUITE different than the BBC’s:

“The report quoted Rohani as saying: “The Zionist regime has been a wound on
the body of the Islamic world for years and the wound should be removed.”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4412953,00.html

and considering the misleading titles for your articles, the BBC once again
has reared its anti-Israel head.

For accuracy, the title of your article SHOULD read:

“Iran’s Rouhani calls ISRAEL ‘old wound’ on Islamic world”.

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August 19th, 2013, 6:51 pm

 

Ghufran said:

There was a bloodbath in reef Latakia which resulted in the recapture of every post rebels took two weeks ago and a new offensive against Dorein and Salma. It is now clear that jihadists were used then left out in the cold to die after a third party ” advised” the FSA and turkey to stay out, the only contribution of the FSA in that fight was the photo op by Idris which was followed by the total collapse of nusra and jihadists force with more to come, I think the army is now trying to secure the whole area by taking three large camps north of Latakia until reaching borders with Turkey, rebels needs to bring forces from other areas to stop the army but that will leave Idleb and reef Aleppo exposed. Rebels backers may have to end their coastal bloody invasion and keep what they have in other areas, that will be seen as a defeat and an acceptance of a new situation where unofficial borders are defended and kept by both parties. Nusra supporters are furious because they believe the FSA is now part of a campaign to clean Syria from jihadists as a necessary step to end this war.

August 19th, 2013, 7:48 pm

 

don said:

UN chief spotlights Egypt, Syria and Pakistan in first press conference since Middle East visit

Turning to Syria, Mr. Ban said that the UN team probing the alleged use of chemical weapons began its work today, and urged “full access” to the sites of the alleged incidents.

The Secretary-General stressed that the team, which arrived this weekend in Damascus, should have access to the reported sites to undertake necessary analysis and collect samples, as well as interview and examine witnesses, victims, attending medical personnel, and to conduct of post-mortem examinations.

“If confirmed, the use of chemical weapons by any side under any circumstances must be held accountable and would constitute an international crime,” Mr. Ban said. “Anyone responsible must be held accountable.”

Led by Åke Sellström, the team will spend up to 14 days, with a possible extension, probing the alleged use of chemical weapons by the Government of Syria at Khan al-Asal, as well as two other allegations reported by Member States.

He noted that the serious security situation inside the country “will undoubtedly affect the Mission’s activities” and that the Government and the all other entities within the country have assured him that they will ensure the safety and security of the Mission.

The UN chief launched the fact-finding mission earlier this year following a formal request from the Syrian Government. It is the first probe of allegations of the use of weapons of mass destruction in the 21st century.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=45650&Cr=&Cr1=

August 19th, 2013, 8:10 pm

 

Ghufran said:

A good read from the Washington Post:

BEIRUT — Two years ago as he hung cuffed to a wall in one of the Syrian intelligence service’s notorious detention centers, Anas Ghaibeh couldn’t have imagined a day when he’d doubt whether the regime should fall immediately. But now he says, he’s not so sure.
Ghaibeh, who is 28, says he feels as though the revolution has been hijacked, with al-Qaeda-linked foreign fighters playing an increasingly prominent role in challenging government forces. If the regime falls today, it is likely to bring only more chaos and bloodshed, he says, a difficult admission for someone who has already sacrificed so much in seeking its end.

As the war has progressed, many of the young liberals who organized protests and beamed their images to the world as the winds of change first reached Syrian soil more than two years ago complain that they have been marginalized. They now have to fight on two fronts, they say — not just against the government, but also against extremist Islamist rebel groups, which, despite their supposedly shared aims, are increasingly targeting secular activists.
The squeezing out of moderates is playing into the argument of Assad’s supporters that the only choice facing Syria is between his rule and that of Islamic extremists, says Mustafa Haid, the Beirut-based director of Dawlaty, a nonprofit group that has provided training for more than 100 activists since being established last summer.
“We’ve lost many political activists,” said Haid, including some who were killed, others who joined the secular-leaning Free Syrian Army and others who fled Syria for Lebanon or other havens. “They are confused and say, ‘It’s not my revolution any more.’?”
Ghaibeh was arrested by Syrian military intelligence in the summer of 2011, and his voice cracks with emotion as he talks about the harsh treatment he endured during five weeks in Syrian custody. He says he was made to stand for days on end, whipped with electrical wire and beaten on the soles of his feet. But the hardship only galvanized him, he said, making him more determined in his cause.
“I was just thinking of one thing,” he said. “That I’d be out one day and I’d be back on the street doing demonstrations. They wanted me to be silent, didn’t want to give them what they wanted.”
“We need freedom but not like this,” Ghaibeh lamented as he sat in a coffee shop in central Beirut, the capital of neighboring Lebanon, where many of Syria’s secular activists have escaped.

August 19th, 2013, 8:44 pm

 

Ghufran said:

MB’s leader Muhammad Badei is in custody, pictures of him were published on the net, one pic showed him in his undershirt. Many people celebrated his arrest but I am afraid that without a real national reconciliation, Egypt will sink further into chaos and bloodshed. For Syria and Egypt, among others, to get out of this dark tunnel people from all sides, who reject violence, must have a voice on who rules them and how.

August 19th, 2013, 9:09 pm

 

zoo said:

#734 Gufran

It appears that Nasser, Sadat and Mobarak have been far too mild on the MB leaders. I hope Al Sisi will show more decisive determination to punish more severely this gang of terrorists.

August 19th, 2013, 9:26 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

KSA position toward the coup in Egypt is at odd with Europe and US position

I was hoping that the Arab spring leads to unification of Arab,as the dictators go, since they were the main obstacles against Arab union

August 19th, 2013, 9:33 pm

 

zoo said:

Is Erdogan and Qatar grinding their teeth in rage as the Egyptian military seem to be winning the war against their proteges, the gang of terrorists called the Moslem Brotherhood?

Morsi supporters show weak mobilisation amid calls for solution to Egypt crisis
Tuesday 20 Aug 2013
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/79485/Egypt/Politics-/Morsi-supporters-show-weak-mobilisation-amid-calls.aspx

Pro-Morsi demonstrations held in several parts of Egypt saw low turnout, hundreds in numbers, in comparison to protests on the day dubbed ‘Friday of Rage.’

August 19th, 2013, 9:41 pm

 

zoo said:

#736 Majed

Get used to it, the Arab spring has just divided and weaken the Arabs further.

August 19th, 2013, 9:42 pm

 

zoo said:

Ghufran

In view of the low turnaround ( hundreds) in pro-Morsi demonstrations, I feel that the MB members are going back underground.
Like the opposition did in Iran when civilians were killed in the demonstrations, the MB has been advised to withdraw as to avoid bloodshed of which they may be held responsible.
They are no in a wait and see that may take years…

August 19th, 2013, 9:48 pm

 

Syrian said:

Saudi Arabia have found their long lost nerves.

“On Monday, Saudi Arabia promised to compensate Egypt for any aid that Western countries might withdraw in response to the harsh tactics employed by Egypt’s leaders to quell protests by supporters of the country’s deposed president, in which nearly 1,000 people and more than 100 police are reported to have been killed.”

http://m.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/backing-egypts-generals-saudi-arabia-promises-to-fill-financial-void/2013/08/19/9d91384a-0901-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html?tid=HP_lede

August 19th, 2013, 10:15 pm

 

mjabali said:

Tara:

I read your response and it actually reminded me with al-Ba’ath. Whenever al-Ba’ath and the Ba’athis hated someone they accuse them with many things.

Here are my points to you:

1- Your accusations to me show that you have no real response.

2- My brutal honesty is new to you. You have never engaged anyone in a discussion about Syria and Islam like me ( a minority person).

3- When the chance comes to you, like the opposition, to work with Alawis you have no idea how to: your revenge is taking away your logic. When you ever engaged any Alawi in a truthful discussion about sects in Syria?

4- You, and most of the Muslims of the Middle East, whenever someone critique Islam you cry and whine but can not come up with a REAL answer.

5- The labels you bring are an example how you grew up, and brainwashed, by a mixture of Ba’ath and Islam. (what a combo!!!)

6- I play no victim: I tell you the truth and what happened and show you the links between that and the present. I show you what is missing from the books about my minority. Traditionally, the minority I came from has no one to speak for it. What you hear from me is a rare chance, because, we, minority people do not like to discuss things as you know. There was never a discussion or meeting from people from your sect and those from mine to sort things out. You can not deal with my BRUTAL HONESTY. Fight with logic and not accusations.

7- I play no victim: My ancestors fought your ancestors day in and day out and never shied away from battle. If you guys were able, you would have killed all of us. They used to fight every year. Whoever put you and I in the same state never thought of this. You guys never thought of it. You thought that with the new modern state you would still keep the status as is. They did not teach us what really happened. I try to tell you what happened, and you resist because it is ugly. They tries to shove these problems under the rug and pretend it does not exist, and think that all of those years of hatred and wars are going to go away easy. Wake up. During those days the Alawis did not have anyone to help them stop the sectarian cleansing they been through. Now, they have big mean allies. Everyone is ready for war.

8- Speaking of the atrocities done in the name of Islam does not make me hate Islam, maybe I am trying to wake you guys up to reform before you lose all of your credibility in front of the modern world.

9- The history of Syria is going to come up in the open. There is nothing you can do about it. The next generation is going to know more that you and me because they will have less inhibitions to see what really happened.

10- Revenge is not a good solution these days.

August 19th, 2013, 10:47 pm

 

Ziad said:

Hariri Provides the Murderers With Political Cover

Future Party leader Saad Hariri commented on Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah’s speech on Twitter, accusing the party of defining who is a terrorist according to its own interests.

Hariri appears to be calling for a national conference in order to designate what constitutes terrorism and to come to a consensus on the mechanism to fight it. In effect, he’s telling those who are being killed and those who are murdering them to wait a little longer in order for everyone to come to a common understanding.

More dangerously, Hariri is sending a message to the Lebanese authorities – and particularly those over which Future has influence, like some of the Internal Security Forces (ISF) – not to accede to calls for combating terrorism, for the matter requires national consensus.

Not only does Hariri provide radical Islamist groups with political cover, in addition to funding and arming them, he is now declaring that they cannot be touched. This is after Future’s MPs have established a record of incitement against the Lebanese army, going so far as to openly defend Ahmad al-Assir’s gang in Saida after they killed over a dozen soldiers.

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/hariri-provides-murderers-political-cover

August 19th, 2013, 10:53 pm

 

Sami said:

MJabali,

I think it is rather disingenuous to blame the action of various conquering empires to that of their religion. For instance when the Ottomans invaded Damascus it was a Sunni city, and as such their invasion of Damascus was not to spread the word of Allah if you like but rather all about controlling the ancient trade routes that Damascus connected to. So to blame the action of the conquering Turks to that to Islam is factually inaccurate.

Also while it is extremely important to know one’s past, it is advised not to live in it or you might damn yourself into repeating it. Using the minority was prosecuted in the past card now against a group of people that genuinely feel that they are being persecuted for who they are (and all the evidence backs this claim) is not only counter productive but an insult to the victims of todays massacred majority.

August 19th, 2013, 11:29 pm

 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

Mjabali
You keep saying that the Alawis were persecuted by Ottomen, do you need to be reminded that the ancestors of yours persecuted Syrian through out many periods of History? May I remind you of the Selucide who used your ancestors to kill so many Syrians, or the Somerians before that, or the People from that area who fought with the crusadors to kill Syrians and Palastinians, your Ancestors has a lot of blood on their hands, you only mention the Ottomen, is it fair to forget about all previous empires who were located there and fought and killed many people in Alleppo.

The fact that you hate Musslems, and this is unforgivable sectarian hatred, this is sickness, you need to mature and stop talking about old history.

August 20th, 2013, 12:32 am

 

apple_mini said:

I don’t believe it will work for the opposition to think logically and make arguments with reasons.

Those who are able and willing already have abandoned the revolution because the revolution has abandoned all what it had fought for in the beginning.

Denial, fabricating lies and sophistry are typical ways of those people who are lack of sound arguments. It is kinda waste of time on them if you are going to have a wholesome and intelligent debate with them.

SAA are crushing the Islamic militants by superior weapons, plannings and commanding.

We use superior intelligence and knowledge.

August 20th, 2013, 1:37 am

 

Alan said:

@ 570. ALAN Are you hearing Mr Putin !

August 20th, 2013, 5:44 am

 

SimoHurtta said:

742. majedkhaldoun said:

The fact that you hate Musslems, and this is unforgivable sectarian hatred, this is sickness, you need to mature and stop talking about old history.

????????????. Basically I would agree with such opinions if they would have been expressed by a person seeking consistently tolerance, compromises, negotiations and real peace. But …

Majedkhaldoun considering, what you have said numerous times about Persia (barbaric as you like to say) and Shia, you base those your former claims on what?

You seem to want to reserve spreading sectarian hatred and interpretations of old “history” as your own “private” monopoly. Is this a lesson of the discussion spirit in your future “democratic” Syria?

August 20th, 2013, 5:52 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Simo
Condemning Persia is not sectarianism, sectarianism is in the same country, I always called for inclusion of all sects in the goverment equally,and I never call for revenge from people who had no blood on their hands , so your comment is a lie and nonsense, you are extremist ,and hateful toward Muslems and while enjoy freedom in a western country, you support dictatorship and exclusion,you are not a good christian, as Jesus was against hate and injustice, you boil with hate and enjoy torture and injustice.

August 20th, 2013, 6:41 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Independently Abusive

I grew up drinking hatred and resentment towards the Jews, and glorifying fighting wars against Israel. It took me years to cleanse my soul from this nonsense. Now Syrian kids on all sides are growing up with hatred towards other sects and celebrating the glorious battles against them.

Hopeful,

Thank you for your speaking your mind. Not as if I didn’t know this, but because many on this website would pretend it is an anomally. OTOH, there is certainly anti-arab sentiment in Israel, but this is slowly changing for the better. When you are safe, when you are free, when the news isn’t controlled, liberalism, openness and coexistence have a way to thrive.

Akbar Palace:

I have no idea why you are trying to chat me up and want to know where I stand. I read two sentences of yours and could tell you where you stand.

But, I will spare you today the toil of using your brain and will put it in front of your eyes:

I am an independent like many Syrians who does not like most of the parties in this fiasco that is taking my country to the bottom of hell.

Mjabali,

I have dialogued with you a little in the past, fleetingly and I find you in need of “Charm School”. You think you’re special. I disagree.

I’ve noticed others on this website have also been abused by your writings, so I do not feel “special”. You like to teach us about medieval arab history, but you are quite “thin” on your own opinions and the present day while you constantly denigrate other participants. Frankly, your response to me was nothing worth noting as I expected.

Obviously, Majedkhaldoun is upset with Iran/Persia because of their enormous destructiveness within the ME.

Sim,

Now that the Iranians have gone to war again with (mostly) Sunni arabs using their Shia friends from Southern Lebanon, we can only thank them for creating allies between Jew and Arab. I thought this day would never come.

August 20th, 2013, 7:17 am

 

zoo said:

Should the West send weapons to the Kurds instead?

Syria Kurds, jihadists in fresh battles
Fresh battles have broken out in strategic, majority Kurdish areas in Syria. The come days after jihadists linked to al-Qaeda pressed a fresh offensive.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/08/20/syria-kurds-jihadists-fresh-battles

Fresh battles have broken out in strategic, majority Kurdish areas in Syria, as jihadists and the main Kurdish party fight each other for control.

In the northeastern province of Hasakeh, “clashes broke out at dawn pitting the Committees for the Protection of the Kurdish People (YPG) against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), Al-Nusra Front and other battalions,” said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights on Tuesday.

The fighting hit Dardara, Hmeid and Jafa villages, and others surrounding the strategic town of Ras al-Ain, near the Turkish border, the watchdog said.

The fighting comes days after jihadists linked to Al-Qaeda pressed a fresh offensive to take control of majority Kurdish areas.

Violence has been so fierce in recent days that some 30,000 Syrians, mostly Kurds, have fled to neighbouring Iraq, the UN said on Monday.

The massive exodus late last week appeared to be the biggest since around 9,000 Syrians crossed into Turkey in November.

“There is a war for territory, control and oil,” said Havidar, a Kurdish activist from Ras al-Ain, who added that the town is important because it is a key gateway from Turkey into Syria.

Other flashpoints are home to oil and agricultural resources that both the YPG and the jihadists want to control, he told AFP.

The Kurdish Democratic Union Party, the largest in the area and the group that dominates the YPG, has announced plans for autonomy in Kurdish areas.

August 20th, 2013, 7:30 am

 

zoo said:

Syrian

“Saudi Arabia have found their long lost nerves.”

A clear sign of panic. For KSA it’s an all out battle to prevent the entrance of Shia Iran in Sunni Egypt, a move that Morsi and the MB favored.
KSA will loose. There will be a rapprochement between Egypt and Iran, it is inevitable.

August 20th, 2013, 7:36 am

 

zoo said:

Frustrated Erdogan is now trying to find a suitable culprit without accusing directly the USA and the GCC, : A desperate demagogic trick to attempt to regain his crumbling popularity that may blow back on him

Turkey PM claims Israel behind Morsi ouster
Turkish PM says there is evidence to support that Israel was behind Morsi’s military-led ouster

AFP , Tuesday 20 Aug 2013
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/79509/World/Region/Turkey-PM-claims-Israel-behind-Morsi-ouster.aspx

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused Israel on Tuesday of being behind the military-backed ouster of Egypt’s Islamist president Mohamed Morsi last month.

“What do they say about Egypt: democracy is not the ballot box. Who is behind this? It’s Israel,” Erdogan, an outspoken critic of the Jewish state, told a meeting of his Islamic-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP).

August 20th, 2013, 7:45 am

 

zoo said:

It was time but would it change the Iran-USA dynamics?

CIA admits 1953 Iran coup: Document

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/79492/World/Region/CIA-admits–Iran-coup-Document.aspx

A newly uncovered document from George Washington University’s National Security Archive disclosed that the CIA was directly involved in a coup overthrowing Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953
AFP , Tuesday 20 Aug 2013

Then secretary of State Madeleine Albright, in an effort to mend relations with Iran, admitted in 2000 that the United States “played a significant role” in overthrowing Mossadegh and called the coup “a setback for Iran’s political development.”

President Barack Obama made a similar admission after taking office in 2009 in another unsuccessful attempt at reconciliation with Iran, which has sought an explicit apology.

August 20th, 2013, 7:48 am

 

zoo said:

Egypt top Mufti supports government’s vigorous crackdown on “security violators”

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/79463/Egypt/Politics-/If-a-ship-is-sinking,-nobody-will-survive-Egypts-M.aspx

Egypt’s top Islamic cleric said on Monday that Islam “forbids” possessing arms during peaceful demonstrations, amid a wave of violence in the country that has left hundreds dead since last week.

Egypt’s grand Mufti Shawki Allam has condemned “violence and terrorismin all its forms” and deplored the “destruction” and violations committed against religious buildings, in reference to a flurry of torching dozens of churches in several parts of the country in recent days.
….
The Grand Mufti, one of Egypt’s highest religious authorities, urged security apparatuses to vigorously enforce the law and hold violators to account.

August 20th, 2013, 7:54 am

 

zoo said:

Turkey seems to be using Syria Turkmens fighters to counter the Kurds affiliated to the PKK, thus encouraging further rifts among minorities

PYD loses control over northern Syrian town

20 August 2013 13:15 (Last updated 20 August 2013 13:37)
The Syrian PYD has lost control of Duden town in northern Aleppo

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/rss/217577–pyd-loses-control-over-northern-syrian-town

ALEPPO- The Syrian PYD has lost control of Duden town in northern Aleppo.

Syrian Turkmens seized control of the town which has mixed Arab, Kurdish and Turkmen populations. The town was underPYD control for ten months.

August 20th, 2013, 8:00 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
As usual analysis that makes no sense
Zoo said
“There will be a rapprochement between Egypt and Iran, it is inevitable.”
KSA is supporting this coup, this coup depends on KSA 100%, would KSA supports what you said, reasonable people think this is impossible.
KSA will push Al Sisi to block again the Persian ships from sailing through the Sues Canal, this will hurt HA and Syria

August 20th, 2013, 8:21 am

 

apple_mini said:

I still believe Morsi’s rally against Syria was his biggest mistake while he was just establishing his control in the country. It was the direct event which triggered the chain actions till today.

Morsi miscalculated his power and he had poor understanding of Sisi and Egyptian army. A fatal mistake.

The deep-rooted hatred against MB by the secular Egyptian army would react immediately after Morsi and his government called for Jihad towards Syria. Not necessarily Egyptian generals have much of sympathy for Assad.

The Egyptian army will not stop short to crush MB and any Islamists this time, even they will face growing pressure from the west. The west will understandably stop short on putting too much heat on Egypt since they are fully aware of the objectives of Egyptian army.

At this stage, any remaining political strength of MB will pose a potential danger for Egyptian army and its generals therefore we shall see Egyptian army continues to pursue its goals.

Egyptian army has strong popular support from general population. This makes huge difference compared to other bloody crackdown in ME.

August 20th, 2013, 9:22 am

 

zoo said:

Toppling al Assad’s government is no more a priority. Kurds join the SAA in fights against the Islamists. As usual, the West does not want to get involved and prefer to give “advices” and use the willing cannon meat available in the region. The West is now asking the left over of the FSA to join the Kurds in fighting against the Islamists. That’s what they call supporting the revolution.

Kurds, Al-Qaida-Linked Rebels Clash in Northern Syria

August 20, 2013
http://www.voanews.com/content/kurds-alqaidalinked-rebels-clash-in-northern-syria/1733011.html

Fresh fighting has broken out between Kurdish fighters and al-Qaida-linked rebels in northern Syria, where clashes between the two sides have forced tens of thousands of people to flee into neighboring Iraq.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the battles Tuesday happened in several villages near the town of Ras al-Ayn. The area is next to the Turkish border in the northeastern corner of Syria that is home to many of the country’s Kurds.

August 20th, 2013, 9:23 am

 

zoo said:

#758 Apple_mini

What about defections from the Egyptian army of pro-Morsi soldiers.
Aren’t they any?

August 20th, 2013, 9:25 am

 

zoo said:

#757 Majed

“KSA will push Al Sisi to block again the Persian ships from sailing through the Sues Canal, this will hurt HA and Syria”

Are you dreaming or joking??

One of the reason Al Sisi kicked out Mosri it’s because he wanted to send soldiers to fight against Bashar al Assad. Morsi wanted to inject his Islamist virus in the secular army. He was brutally stopped.
The Egyptian army, the Syrian army, Iraq, the HA and Iran are fighting the same enemy: the Sunni Islamists that they labelled “terrorists”. Therefore they will cooperate. After seeing Morsi’s Egypt becoming a puppet of Qatar, I doubt Al Sisi will become another puppet to the KSA. The US influence is waning in the region and KSA is weakening.

Syria and Egypt rulers have a lot in common. Erdogan even compared Al Sisi to Bashar Al Assad. They will sooner or later join forces and intelligence to crush once for all the Sunni Islamists from the region.

August 20th, 2013, 9:38 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo said
They will sooner or later join forces and intelligence to crush once for all the Sunni Islamists from the region.

Zoo this is deeply sectarian language, Egypt Moslems are 98% Sunni

August 20th, 2013, 10:00 am

 

omen said:

338. revenire said: fool me twice shame on me.

finally, something we can all agree on; you’re shameful.

August 20th, 2013, 10:01 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Russia recognized the strategic importance of Syria, US has not, Peace treaty between Syria and Israel Guarantees Israel safety more than peace treaty between Egypt and Israel, however US will not abandone Egypt, but US will abandone Sisi.

As for churches are burned in Egypt, we all remember that during the last days of Mubarak churches were burned , later on we found out the truth, that the interior ministry of Mubarak was the culprit, and today the churches burning most likely the work of the current interior minister.

August 20th, 2013, 11:21 am

 

omen said:

749. zoo said: KSA will loose.

why will ksa lose?

August 20th, 2013, 11:53 am

 

omen said:

751. zoo said: would it change the Iran-USA dynamics?

isn’t usa allowing assad remain in power appeasement enough?? what more does iran they want?

August 20th, 2013, 12:04 pm

 

Mina said:

Zoo,
Even the interior ministry is the same now and under Morsi!
Today in The Telegraph, the Egyptian ambassador (has not been ‘replaced’, same guy as under Morsi), explains that the MBs are as dangerous as the Nazis.

By the way there were some interesting precisions about the MB’s prehistory in the comment section here
http://lynch.foreignpolicy.com/

August 20th, 2013, 12:21 pm

 

zoo said:

One more fatwas in the free market of Sunni fatwas. Who dares shut them off?

The rules for the ‘rape and prostitution jihad’ revealed

VIDEO – Sheikh Muhammad al-‘Arifi legitimizing Mohammed marrying a 9-year-old child.Play
June 25, 2013

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-rules-for-the-rape-and-prostitution-jihad-revealed

Sodomy okayed to “widen the anus” of would-be human bombers…

A leading Saudi Arabian Islamic cleric has issued a fatwa (religious ruling) allowing Muslim girls and women to sexually sacrifice their bodies to rebels fighting in the Syrian Civil War, as reported by the Assyrian International News Agency (AINA) on June 24, 2013.

Sheikh Muhammad al-‘Arifi has issued a fatwa allowing women from throughout the Muslim World to travel to Syria and give up their bodies to rebel fighters as so to relieve their pent-up sexual frustration.

Considered a legitimate jihad by al-‘Arifi and other likeminded Muslims because the girls and women allowing unknown men having their way with them will result in the men being better able to concentrate on combating the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

As cited by the article, the females are in fact, making sacrifices– sacrifices of “their chastity” as well as “their dignity.”

Falling back on justification within the Islamic Koran, al-‘Arifi stated:

Allah has purchased of the believers their persons [their bodies] and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain (Yusuf Ali trans. 9:111).

Al-‘Arifi holds the position of the chief imam of the King Fahad Mosque at the Royal Saudi Naval Academy located at the Persian Gulf coastal city of al-Jubayl.

Rape Also Given The Green Light…

News Max magazine reported on Jan. 10, 2013 that al-‘Arifi gave the theological thumbs-up to rape Syria’s Muslim female population.

But rapists must first meet certain criteria:

Rapists must not have had sex for at least two years.
The actual rape itself should last no more than “a few hours in order to give each fighter a turn.”
Muslim females shouldn’t resist due to the act of being raped “boosts the determination of the Mujahideen in Syria.”
Any Muslim woman is fair game provided she is “at least 14-years-old, widowed, or divorced.”

August 20th, 2013, 12:54 pm

 

zoo said:

#767 Mina

I agree. The Moslem Brotherhood behavior remind us of a Nazi organization. Like Hitler, Morsi was elected ‘democratically’ by brainwashed citizens. While Hitler wanted to promote the “purity” of the aryan race, Morsi wanted to promote the ‘purity’ of Sunni Islam.

The Army did well to stop him. I am sure Europe wished “democratically elected’ Hitler would have been toppled before he committed his crimes against the Jews.
Turkey and Qatar as now considered accomplices to a machination to put and keep a terrorist and criminal organization in power.

August 20th, 2013, 1:06 pm

 

zoo said:

#766 Omen

Syria is not Iran’s top priority. Having the USA remove the sanctions and accept Iran’s s development of peaceful nuclear is what Iran is after.

August 20th, 2013, 1:09 pm

 

omen said:

765. zoo said: One more fatwas in the free market

anyone can get published in the examiner. it’s not a real paper.

August 20th, 2013, 1:16 pm

 

revenire said:

But anonymous cannibal-supporters on Twitter are a real source of news Captain Omen?

If anyone can get published in the Examiner why don’t you try? Maybe if you tell them you are closing in on 50,000 tweets they will consider you?

🙂

August 20th, 2013, 1:18 pm

 

zoo said:

765. omen

KSA will loose because the Saudi foreign policy is obsolete, it is pre Arab Spring. It is impossible to impose to Egypt to boycott Iran anymore. People have their word and most liberals Egyptians are in favor of a rapprochement with Iran.
KSA is a military scared mouse. As I said before it has only two weapons it can use to influence the Arab Sunni countries: Money and Islam.
The “Islam’ weapon is increasingly discredited as Sunnis are killing each others with Saudi supplied weapons in Syria and US supplied weapons in Egypt.
The “money” is important but not enough anymore. Qatar poured money in Egypt to sustain Morsi and failed.
Now they think they can dictate Egypt its foreign policy, but I don’t think Al Sisi will be neither a USA puppet not a Saudi puppet. The Egyptians will be here to prevent that. It seems the Egyptians have waken up and will not be obedient sheeps anymore.

August 20th, 2013, 1:22 pm

 

zoo said:

“Al-Arifi has a history of making outrageous statements and retracting them,”

[Updated] Cleric Denies Issuing Fatwa Allowing Gang Rape

Whether the Saudi cleric Muhammed al-Arifi issued a ruling permitting jihadists to gang rape Syrian women is being called into question. However there is irrefutable, documented proof of the imam’s other radical statements.

Tue, January 1, 2013
Editor’s note: RadicalIslam.org would like to inform our readers that the veracity of the story below has been called into question. The story was first reported in a number of Middle Eastern news outlets, (taayar.org, PressTV and the Lebanese Arabic-language TV station Al Jadeed) but the cleric himself has since released a YouTube video in which he denied making the comments.

Al-Arifi is a well-known, popular and hard-line cleric in (Sunni) Saudi Arabia. It is possible that Al-Arifi is telling us the truth. Sectarian baiting through false stories is rampant in the Sunni-Shia world of intense hate and rivalries, especially when it comes to the civil war in Syria. Alawite Shias (aligned with Iran and Syrian President Bashir Al-Assad) and Sunni jihadist rebels (aligned with Saudi Arabia) are fighting it out, unfortunately both committing unspeakable atrocities on the way.

It is also possible that Al-Arifi made the statements and then later retracted them under pressure, possibly from the Saudi government who has been trying in recent years to present an image of modernity to the Western world.

Al-Arifi has a history of making outrageous statements and retracting them, as in the case last October when he called for the Emir of Kuwait to step down, saying he was not qualified for the job and didn’t satisfy the religious conditions of an Islamic ruler.

Al-Arifi’s comments – perceived as interfering in Kuwaiti domestic affairs – caused an uproar and outrage in Kuwait, prompting Al-Arifi to retract his statements.

What is significant is that, based on Al-Arifi’s previous statements regarding what is and is not allowed in Islam, this currently reported “fatwa” from Al-Arifi would not be surprising.

August 20th, 2013, 1:35 pm

 

Tara said:

Mjabali,

This was not ” brutal honesty”. This was Islamophobe.  Nevertheless, I am a person who has no interest in people as individuals (with the rarest of exception).  Therefore, other’s relation to God, their views of religion, and their personal details could not interest me any less.  It is their business and their business only.  I only take offense when they use their views in a context to justify atrocities towards group of people.  So curse Allah of Islam if you wish all you want.  I wouldn’t blink.  It is only when one uses ancient sob stories of contested past as an implicit justification to Alawi support of Assad that I sill “strike” back (if you will)      

And please review your first to last recent exchange with me and tell me who is the one resorting to accusations?  Wasn’t you?  One can’t build a meaningful argument starting with an accusation.  And to add insult to the injury, you come back and accuse me of accusing you when you started it all.  

And let me take this a step further,  You accuse for the sake of accusing thinking that throwing accusations would strengthen your argument.  It doesn’t.   Not with me.    I am getting to learn that there is no point of refuting accusations on Syria comment as no matter how strong and convincing  the counter-argument might be,  it doesn’t register…    Contrary to how i may have come off, I do not talk much in real life.  I am a women of few words ( sounds funny).  I just can’t engage in a conversation when the other party argues only to hear himself.  This wouldn’t be a real exchange.  If you are not going to acknowledge the other’s point of view and logic and grievances, then circular argument isn’t my thing.

Nevertheless, I think SC groupie have made a fair progress.  From throwing insults when we first started to throwing accusations is a fair progress in my opinion and no sarcasm intended.  I expect at this rate, by next year, a point will be discussed without either.   It is probably a learning process towards free speech.  And we are all learning in the process.

I give you lots of credit for coming out and declaring yourself as an Alawi.  Almost every other Alawi commenter on SC opted for whatever reason not to declare him/herself as such.  I give you lots if credit to have not worshipped al Assads.  This is a big step forward given the culture of fear ingrained and promoted by Batta and company.  Your eventual goal is similar to mine, a free and democratic Syria where all of its citizens are equal.   Is it achievable?  I truly do not know.            

August 20th, 2013, 2:17 pm

 

zoo said:

#762 Majed

Millions of the 98% Sunni Egyptians, Sunni Saudi Arabia, Sunni UAE all agreed to crush the Sunni Islamists.
I guess they are all ‘deeply sectarian” like me..

August 20th, 2013, 2:29 pm

 

zoo said:

Afsad al Rasul brigade, certainly a Moslem Brotherhood inspired, backed by Qatar is fighting against the Syrian army for control of Der Ezzor

Assad’s forces counter rebel gains in Syria’s Deir al-Zor

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/assads-forces-counter-rebel-gains-syrias-deir-al-171024977.html#XVDv0fC

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s forces attacked rebel positions in the eastern city of Deir al-Zor on Tuesday, days after a rebel advance threatened to bring the whole city under the control of anti-Assad forces, opposition activists said.

A rebel coalition led by a Qatari-backed force and the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front captured the western al-Hawiqa district last week, seizing army and security compounds as well as Assad’s ruling Baath Party headquarters, the activists said.

Another opposition source said rebel strength had been boosted by the arrival of 20 anti-aircraft missiles that came through Turkey for the Ahfad al-Rasul Brigade, a Qatari-backed unit of the rebel Supreme Military Council, which played a major role in the capture of Hawiqa.

“They probably used 2-3 missiles in Hawiqa and have the rest,” he said, adding that the rebels mainly used rocket-propelled grenades and a suicide car bomb that destroyed a major checkpoint in the capture of Hawiqa.

August 20th, 2013, 2:38 pm

 

syrian said:

ZOO
KSA foreign policy was obsolete 2 years ago, when they used to buy and pay off trouble makers in cash under that table, now with the very experienced ex ambassador to Washington for 30 years Prince Bander have taken over KSA foreign policy thing have changed and you can see his hands everywhere,his publicized visit to Putin for example would not have happened this way in the old style, he could have made the same offer secretly in so many other ways,

About Iran and Egypt.What can the increasingly sanctioned Iran offer broke Egypt to make Egypt antagonize KSA, the west and Israel?. when Egypt stand up on its feet again, if ever, the Nile basin countries where all their attention will be,Iran and its headaches will be the last thing on their mind

August 20th, 2013, 2:53 pm

 

Hopeful said:

#773 Zoo

Shouldn’t that give you enough security and hope that the Sunni Syrians will manage to defeat the radical Islamists once the dictator is deposed? How come you don’t trust the Syrians to be able to do the same? Do we Syrians need dictators to keep the Islamists “in check”?

August 20th, 2013, 3:14 pm

 

apple_mini said:

The condescending tone in Tara’s comments is so typical that we almost take it for granted.

What do you think you are? It is laughable to be so self-absorbed on a political site.

I am quite surprised people not working for the opposition would still respond her posts.

August 20th, 2013, 3:17 pm

 

revenire said:

I find it heartening to see Assad’s enemies killing each other.

August 20th, 2013, 3:44 pm

 

syrian said:

“Hardly a massacre”

Tara is the moral compass of this site long before you came in to this site.
Passing judgment on Tara,while you talked about “witnessing hardly a massacre”, the 700 killed in Cairo as a number which are “not off the charts”, and yesterday boosting that the property market in Damascus did not crash, while ignoring the reason that it is because 60% of Syria is in total ruin,would make it impossible to find real words to describe your disgusting state.

August 20th, 2013, 4:07 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi ?@Shaykhabulhuda 18 Aug
I wonder why many Syrian ulema who support the uprising do not condemn al-Qaeda & al-Nusra!

August 20th, 2013, 4:28 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi ?@Shaykhabulhuda 18 Aug
??? ??? ???? ??????? ?????? ??? ???????? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ?? ?????? ???????.

Google translation (adjusted):

‘All Ulema must face the danger of groups that are offensive to Islam in the Syrian revolution.’

August 20th, 2013, 4:34 pm

 

revenire said:

The moral compass of the site? That sounds delusional. She is one side of a war. YOUR side.

August 20th, 2013, 4:41 pm

 

Syrian said:

Rev.
Then before you also came to this site, between you and apple you tilted the site away so much that now it looks like Tara is on one side,

August 20th, 2013, 5:09 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Apple Mini. You might want to read this.

Update on Yalla Souriya a few hours ago:

#Syria #Damascus –

From an activist in Damascus

d ?@d_sights

I decided 2 meditate this morning at sunrise 2 gain some peace in2 my day.Sitting by the window,gunfire clashes took place. *sigh*

My car used to cost me 1800-2000SYP to top it up with fuel 2 years ago. Now it costs me 5-5,500 SYP

My cigarettes used to cost me 70SYP a pack 2 years ago. Now they cost me 300-350SYP

A can of coke used to cost me 40SYP 2 years ago. Now it costs me 100-120SYP

A pair of locally made Jeans used to cost me 2000SYP 2 years ago. Now it costs 7000+

A food aids basket used to cost me 2200SYP 2 years ago. Now the same food basket costs 5500-6000SYP

A needy family of 6 members used to cost me 7000-10000SYP per month. Now it costs 20000SYP

Renting a flat for a displaced family used to cost 15-25K per month. Now it costs at least 50K SYP

Everything is expensive & everywhere is dangerous but ppl still help one another. World have mercy on us

We are barely alive. Stop looking at us like we are detached from the rest of the revolting cities. We r battling too

We r chocked by regime’s men here. We r monitored, every action is monitored

Yet we still work underground. We haven’t stopped nor given up

So plz give us a break world. Have mercy on us. Help us, don’t critique us

August 20th, 2013, 5:14 pm

 

Tara said:

Syrian,

Thank you and I love you too.

August 20th, 2013, 5:37 pm

 

Tara said:

“Hardly A Massacre” girl.

I have nothing but contempt to any one who looks at a pile of slaughtered children on top of their dead mother and call it “hardly a massacre”.

I am glad you sense my disgust and my contempt. You earned it well.

August 20th, 2013, 5:42 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrian sorry, that won’t work with me. I’ve seen the calls for blood too many times. You yourself have done it. So for me, the sooner our army kills the enemy, the faster peace will come. Your side isn’t going to win.

August 20th, 2013, 5:53 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Sadistic supporters of Assad raper wild analfabet gangs are still alive and kicking. But soon they will find the truth from Al Hassake to Beirut.

August 20th, 2013, 6:15 pm

 

Syrian said:

Tara:
You are welcome. I know you are more than capable of answering that thing called apple mini, but I could not stop myself.

August 20th, 2013, 6:38 pm

 

zoo said:

Obama is paying for his ridiculous assertions that Bashar Al Assad will be toppled switfly and the other ridiculous one that the opposition will unite.
With morons like Ford and Hillary in charge and following the advices of another moron HBJ, the fiasco is no surprise.

2 years after calling on Assad to leave, U.S. fears being realized in Syria

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57599408/2-years-after-calling-on-assad-to-leave-u.s-fears-being-realized-in-syria/
….
The black banner of al Qaeda is now flying in Syria. The war-torn country is now a base for al Qaeda fighters who plan to use it to launch attacks.

Syria is now the number one threat to U.S. national security, according to top Obama administration intelligence officials.

“With many al Qaeda leaders now operating in Syria, we all need to accelerate our work in order to set the conditions for a diplomatic settlement to the Syrian crisis,” Sec. of State John Kerry said recently.

This is what the Obama administration feared would happen if the U.S. intervened in the war. Now it is happening anyway.

Former Obama administration policy adviser Vali Nasr warns that inaction is a danger.

“We have to find a way to end the Syrian conflict,” Nasr said. “The longer it goes, the more it will create opportunity for al Qaeda.”

Al Qaeda fighters have recently started to attack the moderate rebels who are backed by the U.S.
….
The longer the conflict drags on, Nasr said, the stronger al Qaeda will become.
“In some ways we are dealing with the consequences of the United States reluctance to get engaged in Syria in an ironic way, the United States may end up having to intervene in Syria exactly because it refused to intervene in an earlier time period,” Nasr said.

August 20th, 2013, 7:10 pm

 

zoo said:

Hopeful

“Do we Syrians need dictators to keep the Islamists “in check”?”

I yet want to see a country democratically dealing with a huge wave of violent and heavy armed Islamists who wants to create a Caliphate.
As Al Sisi is cracking down ruthlessly on the Islamists, some already call him a “dictator”.

If a “dictator” with full power is needed to eradicate the Islamists and restore the unity of the country, I am all for it.

The rebels made the choice of opening the door to terrorists to help them pursue their failing revolution by using weapons and mercenaries provided by foreign countries.
They now must bear the responsibility and the consequences of that decision.

August 20th, 2013, 7:25 pm

 

revenire said:

If anything we need more “dictators” like Assad.

August 20th, 2013, 7:29 pm

 

zoo said:

As the airport of Mennegh has been ‘liberated ‘ by Al Nusra and other extremist groups, it seems the weapons will mostly go to them
“It will be distributed between all the different groups that joined in liberating the airport,” said Col. Abdul Jabbar Akaidi, head of the rebel military council in Aleppo.

In Syria, seized weapons caches boost rebels’ hopes after weeks of setbacks

Tuesday, August 20,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/seized-weapons-caches-boost-rebel-hopes-after-weeks-of-setbacks/2013/08/20/88ece6fc-09d1-11e3-8974-f97ab3b3c677_story.html

GAZIANTEP, Turkey — Syrian rebels have received an unexpected windfall in the form of large weapons caches seized in fighting during the past three weeks, including stocks of heavy arms that could help offset recent battlefield gains by government forces, U.S. and Middle East officials say.

The weapons include hundreds of advanced anti-tank missiles captured in fighting near Damascus and a sizable haul of armored vehicles, machine guns and rockets taken from a Syrian air base overrun this month, the officials said..

While Syria’s fractious rebel brigades regularly acquire arms by looting captured government installations, the arsenals seized in the past month were unusual in size and quality and could help chip away the government’s significant military advantage in some heavily contested parts of the country, according to two Middle Eastern officials and one U.S. official with access to sensitive intelligence on Syria.

An inventory of seized weapons from the airfield, pieced together by intelligence officials and independent military analysts, includes the equivalent of an armored company’s contingent of T-72 tanks and BMP-1s, Russian-built amphibious fighting vehicles armed with an anti-tank gun and a heavy machine gun. Also seized was at least one 57mm antiaircraft gun and crate after crate of machine guns, grenade launchers and assault rifles, many of them new and in their original packing, the analysts said.

August 20th, 2013, 7:33 pm

 

Tara said:

Man says he was held naked and tortured at Damascus’ Mezzeh Military Hospital

The Syrian-American Medical Society in Jordan did a survey among physicians who had volunteered to work with Syria’s wounded. A man relayed the story below via that survey:

“I participated in a demonstration in east Ghota [in the Damascus countryside] during last Ramadan [July/August 2012]. I was shot and taken to a private hospital for treatment but security forces moved me to the Mezzeh Military Hospital in Damascus. I had a lower limb fracture and an injury to the nerves causing paralysis of that limb.

“I was moved to the prisoners holding area in the hospital, which has 14 beds, each has 4 prisoners, all chained, blindfolded, and naked. I stayed there six months. Every day at 3 a.m. a few wounded got executed and new ones admitted. Total executions during my stay reached 1,700 in my holding area, which was #215 and controlled by the security personnel of Palestine Security Branch.

“There was a First Class Private whose name was Khaldoun, but he called himself Azrael, the name of the angel of death. He would beat the patients to death. I witnessed and suffered from different methods of torture, beating with a metal tube, suffocation with military boot or belt, IV shots that kills, burning of the beard, cigarettes burns in the ear and nose, repeated whipping until the patient passed out, kept naked in wintertime with the windows open, and torturers would step on our wounds or burns with their military boots. There were no toilets and we had to urinate and defecate on the beds. Sometimes we were forced to eat our excretions.”

Because Syrian government officials currently refuse to allow access to journalists, researchers and aid workers, WMC’s Women Under Siege cannot independently verify this report of sexualized violence in Syria.

https://womenundersiegesyria.crowdmap.com/reports/view/222

August 20th, 2013, 7:37 pm

 

Tara said:

Ameera,

Where are you? Don’t run away.

I’ll have Majed and you make nice when you come to the liberation celebration in Halaya. I will not have the party without both of you so come back.

August 20th, 2013, 7:41 pm

 

zoo said:

The US should forget about “democracy” and back Al Sisi, the new Egypt “brutal dictator” as long as he fights the Islamists and keep the peace treaty with Israel. I repeat: a peace treaty with Israel is a guarantee of immunity

The U.S. Should Back the Army
If the Muslim Brotherhood wins, say goodbye to the peace treaty with Israel and stability in Sinai.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324108204579020851300268912.html

August 20th, 2013, 7:44 pm

 
 

Ghufran said:

It looks like sheikh Gazal was killed by terrorists, the news came after mass graves of civilians were found in two villages where jihadists went on a killing campaign 2 weeks ago:
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The nc yesterday posted a statement on their website asking villagers in Latakia and alawites in general to abandon the regime and ” trust” the revolution,
Despite the sectarian nature of jihadist crimes I still think that sectarianism is being used to recruit jihadists, the truth is that many victims of the Islamist terrorists in a number of countries are Sunni Muslims, that is why I think it is a fatal mistake for Sunnis to trust jihadists thinking that their sunnism will protect them, that is also true for the Egyptian army and security forces that are being targeted now by jihadists.
( sisi sent an envoy to Syria today according to a tweet from an Egyptian source, if confirmed that means a lot)

August 20th, 2013, 8:21 pm

 

zoo said:

The hysterical and frustrated lunatic of Turkey..

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia should resign!

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/king-abdullah-of-saudi-arabia-should-resign-.aspx?pageID=449&nID=52901&NewsCatID=429

As the Hürriyet Daily News’ Tuesday headline suggested, Turkey – a “preciously alone” country – is now pointing the finger at Middle Eastern monarchies for their extraordinary political and financial support to the Egyptian coup d’état, after weeks of an anti-West campaign that centered on the United Nations and European countries.

Turkey’s aloneness is becoming ever more precious with Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozda?’s harsh statement against oil-rich Gulf countries, who have funneled billions of dollars to the Egyptian interim government to secure the success of the infamous coup that ousted the country’s first democratically elected president, Mohamed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood movement.

Summarizing that these monarchic administrations had orchestrated the coup and given their full backing to the Egyptian army because they are scared of Egypt’s change in terms of “democracy, human rights and the people’s will” under Morsi’s leadership – since that could have echoes on the streets of their powerful kingdoms – Bozda? said: “One must be blind not to see it. It’s that clear.”

August 20th, 2013, 9:19 pm

 

zoo said:

Syrian

“his publicized visit to Putin for example would not have happened this way in the old style, he could have made the same offer secretly in so many other ways,”

He should have made it secret as the rebuff of Putin has just shown the guy’s bad calculation and arrogance. He really thought money could buy off Russia and he got a slap. As a first open move of his new style ‘diplomacy’ it was a fiasco.

Do you really think that Bandar’s close association with the CIA and the neocons will bring success?
In my view, it will bring death and destruction but certainly no long term success. Saudi Arabia is doomed and is now desperately trying to contain the wave to will bring down the Saud family monopoly. They do not belong to the 21th century. Their time is over, Bandar or no Bandar.

August 20th, 2013, 9:32 pm

 

mjabali said:

Sami:

Comment # 740

You are right in many things you said:

Invaders had racial over religious interests many times. This is correct.

But, I bring the past trying to understand it in the right way, and/or maybe try to correct the mistakes so we all could live together.

The past is being brought in a huge manner by many parties in this Syrian crisis. Taking advantage of this war to open the taboo box is not a bad idea. We (Syrians) have to do this. We can understand each other for real and not through forced identities …

August 20th, 2013, 9:34 pm

 

zoo said:

Egypt-Turkey relation are deteriorating by the day.
Rejection of Turkey is growing in the Arab world. Instead of Israeli and Gulf tourists, Turkey is now overwhelmed by Syrian refugees

Egyptian forces raid on Turkish news agency bureau, detain journalist

CAIRO – Anadolu Agency

Egyptian military forces raided the Cairo bureau of Turkey’s Ihlas News Agency on Aug.20, detaining the bureau chief, while also extending the custody period of a reporter for state-run TRT.

August 20th, 2013, 9:40 pm

 

mjabali said:

Majedkhaldoun:

Comment # 742:

The Ottomans persecuted the Alawis like no one else…Look at the Fatawas of the Sunnis Sheikhs of Damascus and see what it means, or go through the campaigns the Ottomans sent after the Alawis year after year.

I heard you are from the countryside of Allepo: Let me tell you this: these days this countryside of Allepo has zero Alawis. Read how I’zaz was An Alawi town as well as Jisr al-Shughur and Ma’arat al-Nu’man. There were Alawis in Allepo itself, as a matter of fact, Allepo is their historical base. There were Alawis in Damascus and around it: Read Fatawa Ibn Taymiyah to see that with your own eyes. He even allowed his Mongol Boss Mohammad Ibn Qalawuun to cut the trees of the areas of the Alawis near Damascus.

Alawism appeared in Baghdad first with al-Janbalani the famous Sufi. Many Sufis played a part in its origination and that is why there is no violence talk within the Alawis and their books. Instead they see things as light and dark like old religions. The Alawi way is a mixture of Philosophy and Sufism. There is no place for violence in it.

August 20th, 2013, 9:47 pm

 

zoo said:

Ghufran

It is obvious that Syria and Egypt must collaborate and exchange intelligence about hunting the Moslem Brotherhood and other Islamists moving in and out Syria and Egypt.
Egypt is bound to restart a good relation with Syria’s government. They are fighting to same beast.
The Syrian army and the Egyptian have a common past of collaboration: They fought together against Israel and against Iraq.

August 20th, 2013, 9:47 pm

 

zoo said:

The Washington Post proposes an absurd and dangerous solution: The West should cut aid and impose sanctions on Egypt if it continues to brutally crackdown on the peaceful Moslem Brotherhood militants

Saving Egypt from Syria’s fate

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-the-us-can-save-egypt-from-syrias-fate/2013/08/19/125d10ee-08cc-11e3-b87c-476db8ac34cd_story.html

In reality, Egypt is far more vulnerable to U.S. and European pressure than is Syria or most any other Arab state. Not only is the military dependent on U.S. weapons, spare parts and training but the economy, based on tourism and foreign investment, also has no chance of recovering without Western support. The billions in cash supplied to the new regime by Saudi Arabia and other Arab supporters is a temporary salve; in the end, any government seeking stability will need to come to terms with the International Monetary Fund, where U.S. influence is strong.

A forceful and united stand by Western governments against the course the Egyptian military is pursuing could bring the generals to their senses before it is too late. They must be made to understand that a new Egyptian autocracy will never be accepted by the United States or Europe. At the moment, they believe otherwise. There is an opportunity this week, as European foreign ministers meet to discuss Egypt. They should resolve to suspend all aid and cooperation until the crackdown is halted and a credible movement toward democracy begun, and the United States should join them.

August 20th, 2013, 10:07 pm

 

revenire said:

Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood appears at risk of falling apart

CAIRO — The world’s most influential Islamist movement is in danger of collapse in the land of its birth — its leaders imprisoned, its supporters slain and its activists branded as terrorists in what many are describing as the worst crisis to confront Egypt’s 85-year-old Muslim Brotherhood.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/egypts-brotherhood-says-struggle-will-remain-nonviolent/2013/08/20/dd95747a-0991-11e3-8974-f97ab3b3c677_story.html

August 20th, 2013, 10:07 pm

 

zoo said:

#809 Revenire

That’s a good news, but “falling apart” is not enough. Like the Nazi movement, it must be hunted down and eradicated.

August 20th, 2013, 10:11 pm

 

zoo said:

Hamas is paying dearly its betrayal of Syria and its association with Qatar, Turkey and the Egyptian Moslem brotherhood. It is now begging help from Iran
Cornered Hamas looks back at Iran, Hezbollah

http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/cornered-hamas-looks-back-iran-hezbollah

In an additional blow, Hamas’s close ties with Qatar have also been dented this summer.
The emir of the energy-rich Gulf state visited Gaza last October promising millions of dollars of aid, but he abdicated in June and his heir has shown much less interest in Hamas.

Moussa Abu Marzouk, former deputy head of Hamas’s political office, saw Hezbollah and Iranian officials in Lebanon last month, with other meetings taking place subsequently.

“It is in the interest of Hamas today to revise its rapport with Iran and Hezbollah for many reasons,” said Hani Habib, a political analyst based in the Gaza Strip. “At the end of the day, all the parties have an interest in this partnership.”

With the Muslim Brotherhood in control of Egypt, Hamas felt it did not have to worry so much about its ties with Iran.

Hamas’s leader in exile, Khaled Meshaal abandoned his long-time base in Damascus last year because of the civil war that pitted President Assad’s forces, backed by reinforcements sent by both Iran and Hezbollah, against mainly Sunni rebels.

One of the veteran leaders of Hamas, Mahmoud Al-Zahar, said there had never been a suspension of relations with Tehran and Hezbollah, suggesting that contacts may have slowed only because of the recent presidential election in Iran.

“We do not yet know the nature of Iran’s new policy, but the information we have received, which is not direct, suggests that the old policy will be endorsed by the new administration,” Zahar, a renowned hardliner, told Reuters in an interview.

Hamas hopes newly installed President Hassan Rouhani will open the financial taps again.

Diplomats estimated that Iran used to give Hamas some $250 million a year, but one Palestinian official reckoned that only 20 percent of that was now being handed over. Ehud Yaari, a Middle East expert from Israel, put the figure at just 15 percent, with no arms being offered up either.

“We have a situation of close to zero arms trafficking through the tunnels into Gaza,” said Yaari.

August 20th, 2013, 10:22 pm

 

revenire said:

The Muslim Brotherhood is a disease.

August 20th, 2013, 10:25 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Mjabali
Your ancestors the Seleucid were much more brutal than the Ottomen, they killed much more Syrian, and your people today are killing hundreds of thousands of Syrians.
If you have problem with Ibn Taymiyeh go argue with him I am Zahiri, I accept Quraan a nd Hadith , I dont accept any Fatwa.

Mjabali
Your friend Zoo today issued fatwa to kill all Sunnis once and for ever, what was your comment to him

August 20th, 2013, 10:28 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo said
They will sooner or later join forces and intelligence to crush once for all the Sunni Islamists from the region.

August 20th, 2013, 10:42 pm

 

omen said:

743. apple_mini: SAA are crushing the Islamic militants by superior weapons, plannings and commanding. We use superior intelligence and knowledge.

assad is gassing children.

August 20th, 2013, 10:48 pm

 

don said:

Female Kurdish Combat Unit Joins Fight In Syria (VIDEO)

When Rokan Abrahim’s school in the north of Syria closed because of the fighting, the 21-year-old took matters into her own hands. She joined an all-female Kurdish combat unit formed to protect fellow Kurds in the war-torn country.

As violence rages across Syria, Kurds in the north have formed militant groups to protect civilians in the region.

“We are carrying weapons not to kill anybody but to protect ourselves,” Abrahim says.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/20/female-kurdish-combat-unit-syria_n_3785601.html

August 20th, 2013, 10:51 pm

 

zoo said:

#814 Majed

I am not a Sunni like you to emit fatwas.
I just observe what is happening: The whole Arab Islamic world seem determined to hunt and eliminate the Sunni Islamists who are distorting the image of Islam.
No Arab country (except Qatar) wants them.

August 20th, 2013, 10:55 pm

 

zoo said:

#omen

“assad is gassing children.”
Are you part of the UN chemical weapons team visiting Syria, a psychic or a cheap propagandist?

August 20th, 2013, 10:58 pm

 

Syrian said:

ZOO:
The point was if KSA foreign policy is obsolete. Bander has changed that, he is only there for about a year. So you can not claim that he has failed yet. He has succeeded in taking the lead from Qatar. Removing the MB in Egypt, stirred Lebanon enough to make HA head N.A for the first time threaten the Doroz publicly with a fate of that of Qusir.
That trip to Putin was more a message to Iran and Syria than the offer itself.plus what really went inside that meeting no one knows.
Bander has a huge network of friends inside Washington including Dems.and Republicans, and he knows the ways of the Capitol like no one else.
Death and destruction is going on with or without Bander. The house of Saud is not doomed as long as they have oil. with a trillion dollars reserve and many armies willing to defend them from Pakistan all the way to Morocco they will be hanging around for the next 30 years minimum.

August 20th, 2013, 11:08 pm

 
 

revenire said:

Omen only those who believe in your cannibals would believe a word you say.

August 20th, 2013, 11:28 pm

 
 

Syrians said:

The face book page of the republican guards is admitting there was a chemical attack 3 hours ago next to Damascus
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27 minutes ago ·
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?????? ??????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ??????? ??? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ????? ???!!!!
???? ??? ??????? ??? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ??????? .

The death toll so far over 50.
Who else have this weapon other than Assad regime?

August 20th, 2013, 11:42 pm

 

Sami said:

Rotten “I just witnessed hardly a massacre on my way to a Zara sale” Apple Mini,

“It is laughable to be so self-absorbed on a political site.”

Says our resident fashionista keeping us well informed about all the newest trends at Zara.

If I was Tara and was insulted by this massacre denier I would take it as a badge of honour. Riling up those that so callously want to see their fellow Syrians tortured and killed is the least one can do.

“Those who are able and willing already have abandoned the revolution because the revolution has abandoned all what it had fought for in the beginning.”

Only a treasonous fool would utter such nonsense. Syria needs anyone that rejected the monstrosity known as Assadism today more than ever, for today not only are we left with the dying hyenas of Assad but the Islamists dogs that were bred and nurtured in Assad’s dungeons and unleashed upon Syria by the slithering thug they call a president for life.

“We use superior intelligence and knowledge.”

Who is we you keep jabbering about? Your masters at the moukhabarat? I am waiting for you to ask for my jadeh number, really I dont want the wrong Sami arrested.

What kind off superior intelligence calls for the massacre of women and children? Right I keep forgetting you are so callous that you deny them and as such for you they don’t count…

a reminder of the callous denial of the Baida massacre by this “Superiorly Intelligent” person:

The village of Baida had been spared until recently after the infiltration by the rebels. SAA immediately locked down the surrounding including the highway from Lattakia to Tartus. Fighting broke out and civilians are part of casualties. But SAA was able to take control the situation rather quickly.

Massacre, hardly the case.

https://joshualandis.com/blog/new-addition-to-the-syrian-islamic-front/?cp=all#comment-364906

August 20th, 2013, 11:45 pm

 

zoo said:

The rise and fall of the Moslem Brotherhood

Egypt’s Brotherhood as beleaguered as its leader
http://news.yahoo.com/egypts-brotherhood-beleaguered-leader-224328125.html

Regardless of which path it chooses, the Brotherhood’s grim future will impact Islamic groups across the Middle East and beyond. The Egyptian organization is something of a “mother ship” that has inspired their creation and provided a role model of the political Islam they want to prevail.

“The Brotherhood will become a secret organization, will go underground once again and join ranks with extremist organizations,” predicted Raafat Sayed Ahmed, head of the Yafa Center for Arab studies, a liberal think tank. “Younger members will take up arms against the government and you will see an armed secret organization in Egypt.”

Still, he predicted the group will continue to show a measure of resistance so long as its sources of funding are left untouched by authorities. “The blow of death is when the money dries up,” Ahmed said.

He, like others, predicted the Brotherhood will join an insurgency already under way in the Sinai Peninsula by extremists sympathetic to the group, while simultaneously starting another in southern Egypt, where the Brotherhood and Gamaa Islamiyah, an allied hard-line organization with a history of violence, enjoy significant influence.

August 20th, 2013, 11:58 pm

 

zoo said:

Syrians

“Who else have this weapon other than Assad regime?”

Turkey

August 20th, 2013, 11:59 pm

 

zoo said:

#820 Omen

Twitter news? Yawn…

August 21st, 2013, 12:00 am

 

Syrian said:

About 3 years old kid suffocating by the chemical attack in Damascus suburb
http://youtu.be/Htne_krCJ_E

August 21st, 2013, 12:02 am

 

revenire said:

Mr. “50,000 Tweets” Omen thinks the Syrian government has used chemical weapons on children just in time for the UN chemical weapons inspectors. Pathetic.

August 21st, 2013, 12:04 am

 

revenire said:

Syrian you guys jumped the shark. So, so desperate.

August 21st, 2013, 12:05 am

 

revenire said:

Sami if you want to be arrested by the Syrian government turn yourself in. I am sure they will show you their best jail. If not please stop the boring Internet bravado nonsense. It is boring me to death to read.

August 21st, 2013, 12:06 am

 

Sami said:

Zoo,

Turkey

Turkey has been a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention since 1993 and ratified it in 1997.

http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/cwcsig

Five States have so far not signed nor ratified it, care to guess your Souria Al-Assad is on the list or not?

August 21st, 2013, 12:10 am

 

zoo said:

#819 Syrian

Obviously you have a high opinion of Bandar’s influential friends in the USA. I don’t. The USA foreign policy in the ME is a disaster and I see no reason why it would change. The USA is in total confusion and ignorance of the tendencies in the Arab world. After having been convinced by Qatar that the Moslem Brotherhood was the least bad choice to dominate the Arab world, now they are faced with Bandar convincing them that the Moslem Brotherhood are terrorists. Obama’s head is spinning. What kind of support you think Bandar can get from a confused and paralyzed administration?
Keep dreaming that a solution will come from the US and Saudi Arabia.

August 21st, 2013, 12:12 am

 

zoo said:

Russia never got an explanation

Russia waiting for Turkey’s explanation on sarin gas link in bomb attack

31 May 2013 /TODAY’S ZAMAN, ANKARA
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated on Friday that his country is expecting an official explanation from Ankara over Syrian militant al-Nusra’s possession of sarin gas.

Seven members of the al-Nusra group were detained on Wednesday after Turkish police found sarin gas, which was reportedly going to be used in a bomb attack, during a search of the suspects’ homes, Turkish media have reported.

“We look forward to receiving full information from our Turkish colleagues over the matter.
..
Newspapers claimed on Thursday that two kilograms of sarin gas, which is usually used for making bombs and was banned by the UN in 1991, had been found in the homes of suspects detained in the southern provinces of Adana and Mersin

August 21st, 2013, 12:15 am

 

Sami said:

Over 280 people dead so far from the heinous crime on Zamelka.

This is the definition of winning for these pathetic monsters.

August 21st, 2013, 12:16 am

 
 

ghufran said:

I know that many, or may be most, of you want their side to win but I believe we have lost a lot of people whose lives could have been spared, this war needs to come to an end even if that keeps some of your enemies alive, when this is all done and finished you will realize that the whole country lost and most Syrians are losers, there is no way to beautify that pig. Victory for either side, as hard as it is to achieve, will mean very little to the victims of this war whether dead, dying or waiting, Remember what you enjoy here in the West and try to understand that there are millions of Syrians who live in fear, poverty and despair, I have no respect for any expat who sits behind a computer condemning people to a life he will never live or to the type of death he will never face.

August 21st, 2013, 12:43 am

 

Syrian said:

Massive air and land bombing to the areas that were hit with the chemical attacks.
Probably to cover it up, or to claim to the UN reps. that those areas are under military operations so not to let them in those areas

August 21st, 2013, 1:10 am

 

Syrian said:

?????? ???? ????? ????? ?????? … ???? ????? ??? ????? ????????? .. ???? ?? ???? ????? ???????? ???????? ????????
To all who have twitter account
please be advised to heavily publish the news of the chemical weapons
massacre happening now in damascus
the news are still yet to appear at any of the international agencies and channels

use the Hashtag
?#?CWMassacre?
?#?Chemical_Massacre?

August 21st, 2013, 1:24 am

 

revenire said:

LOL

August 21st, 2013, 1:30 am

 

Syrian said:

A whole family in Damascus subreb are dead after the chemical attack

August 21st, 2013, 1:44 am

 

Syrian said:

Syrian activists accuse Assad forces of using chemical agents

http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCABRE97K06620130821

BEIRUT (Reuters) – Syrian activists accused forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad on Wednesday of using chemical agents during the heavy bombardment of rebel-held areas of eastern Damascus.

The reported use of the chemical agents could not be immediately verified. It coincides with a visit to Damascus by a United Nations team of chemical weapons experts.

August 21st, 2013, 1:58 am

 

annie said:

rien4djri 8:03 am on August 21, 2013

Local Coordination Committees in Syria – 2m

Hundreds of martyrs as well as casualties, majority of whom are civilians, among them dozens of women and children as a result of the barbaric use of poisonous gases by the criminal regime in the towns of Eastern Ghouta earlier today, as the locals in these areas were horrifically subjected to the chemical weapons which led to suffocation of the children and overcrowding field hospitals with hundreds of casualties amid extreme shortage of medical supplies to rescue the victims, particularly Atropine.

The Local Coordination Committees in Syria urgently call on all of the humanitarian international organization, including the Red Cross, Red Crescent, human rights and international community’s organizations to act immediately to save the lives of the civilians in Damascus’ Ghouta and rescue the casualties, as well as to end the medical and nutritional siege imposed on these heavily-populated areas, as the Eastern Ghouta was also shelled by warplanes following the chemical attack that is still ongoing which led to hundreds of casualties and victims, among them entire families.

We also call on the international community, despite its inaction and procrastination, to work and put an end to the massacres against the Syrian People, in which the regime has used every internationally and morally prohibited weapon amid a deplorable silence and stalemate, indirectly giving the regime a green light to continue using chemical weapons against civilians to this day.

August 21st, 2013, 2:15 am

 

Syrian said:

Chemical Bashar is his new name.

August 21st, 2013, 3:46 am

 

apple_mini said:

Those lying and hysterical opposition members just won’t quit. There have been intense actions by SAA and air force earlier this morning: heavy artillery and tank shelling; loud air strikes and very spotted gun shots.

Of course those rebels and their mouthpieces will cry wolf again because Syrian force is kicking those insurgents hard. Chemical weapons used in Damascus? Are those opposition people nuts or the regime?

I will be heading out to the old town and I won’t even bring a handkerchief.

August 21st, 2013, 4:17 am

 

Syrian said:

It is beasts like you that make the revolution going, keep it up,you are our best motivation to keep going and this get rid of your type in Syria.

August 21st, 2013, 5:52 am

 

Alan said:

Majed ! enjoy!

Over 30.000 refugees from Syria´s northern, predominantly Kurdish region have fled to the Kurdish Administrated Region of Iraq over the last days. Since the beginning of August, the region has been under sustained attacks from Western- and Gulf Arab-backed al-Qaeda brigades.

‘Jihadists cleansing Kurds in Syria’, thousands flee
http://youtu.be/mPycsevHbS4?t=20s

August 21st, 2013, 7:20 am

 

zoo said:

A timed diversion to prevent and delay the UN team for visiting Khan Al Assal where there was a real use of sarin by rebels?

Syria: Chemical Attack in Ghouta ‘an Accident Caused by Free Syrian Army’

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/500506/20130821/syria-chemical-attack-accident-caused-free-syrian.htm

But Gwyn Winfield, editorial director at CBRNe World, a magazine specialising in chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and explosive weapons, told IBTimes UK that it is difficult to identify an agent by the signs and symptoms alone.

“We can say there is some form of chemical used. But until we take blood samples, samples of the soil and the water in the area we can’t say that a chemical agent has been used,” he said.

“It can be a riot control agent, like in the recent Egyptian case of the tear gas used in the back of a van that killed 36 prisoners. We have the same symptoms in the children and casualties.”

Symptoms of those hit by the attack include nausea, hallucinations, suffocation, hard coughing, high blood pressure, seizures and a post-death gargle, according to Syrian blogger Enas, from Amman in Jordan.

In response to the initial reports, the Syrian government has denied that chemical weapons were used.

Winfield said he finds it “suspicious” that in the week UN inspectors enter the country with the acquiescence of Assad, the Government welcomes them with a chemical weapons missile barrage.

“It is not impossible that some faction in the Free Syrian Army did it to get attention or maybe it was an accident by an inexperienced operator who may have not realised what he was doing.”

The security expert said there are numerous cases of riot agent used in a lethal way, for example in confined spaces and not to disperse a crowd.

He added that the idea that the FSA is single and unified is “a myth,” because “there are different factions and something like that could be a win/win for them: launch the attack and raise amount of profile of their cause by the UN.”

Winfield said that more than 570 victims, if confirmed, are a lot of people in a not densely populated area. “It means the attack targeted a large area and it is not an isolated incident. If there are 570 fatalities it would suggest that evidence of what it is will not be hard to find.”

August 21st, 2013, 7:21 am

 

Tara said:

Chemical weapons have been used. No need to wait for a UNSC resolution this time. The pinkish red line has been crossed..again. The US should take al Assad down. With jaysh ab shahatta, it will only need few kinetic strikes. A few more at Dahaya wouldn’t hurt either
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Chemical weapons expert Jean Pascal Zanders writes on The Trench that he has been sceptical about previous claims of their use in Syria but in the latest case “it is clear that something terrible has happened”:

The footage from the current alleged attack(s) in the Ghouta district seems to offer more convincing evidence of poisoning through asphyxiation (witness the pinkish-bluish hue on the faces of some of the fatalities). Further elements that seem to confirm exposure to toxicants are the unfocussed and rolling eyes, severe breathing difficulties, in one instance a very erect penis, and possible signs of urination or defecation on trousers (although this is difficult to say, given that the hospital floor is covered with water as staff seems to hose water over every victim). None of the victims appeared to have external wounds from blast, shrapnel or bullets.

I am not sure whether the claims of nerve agent use accompanying the footage and images are correct. The people are not convulsing (except for one man shaking his legs while shouting out, but the remainder of his body does not suffer from involuntary contractions) and I have not seen anybody applying nerve agent antidotes. Nor do medical staff and other people appear to suffer from secondary exposure while carrying or treating victims.

It is clear that something terrible has happened. The scenes could not have been stage managed. However, it is extremely puzzling that government forces would launch a chemical attack precisely at the moment when UN inspectors are finally in the country to investigate some of the earlier allegations. 

August 21st, 2013, 7:21 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Miss Me Yet? NewZ

I’ve never seen so many dead w/o bullet wounds. As Obama plays another round of golf.

We need a REAL president. Fast.

And there’s a UN team in Syria to hunt for chemical weapons…Hello?

http://news.yahoo.com/activists-more-200-killed-gas-attack-near-damascus-103551876.html

Meanwhile, the Arab League asks that UN inspectors go immediately to inspect the use of chemical weapons.

Assad and the thugs are thumbing their nose at the world…

http://news.yahoo.com/arab-league-chief-asks-un-look-report-syria-100356472.html

August 21st, 2013, 7:24 am

 

zoo said:

It smells Bandar Ben Sultan in Ghouta…

Having exhausted all recourse to stop the Geneva conference bulldozer that may wipe them out, the rebels with the new help of Saudi intelligence have resorted to a criminal trick by exploiting the West sensitive ‘red line’, Chemical weapons, to perpetrate a war crime. If this is proven that the rebels have sacrificed civilians intentionally or by accident, there will be no need for the Geneva conference anymore. The situation will be very clear for the whole world.
The problem is that even if the UN team proves there was use of chemical weapon in Ghouta, they will not be able to point to the culprit. A separate UN investigation will be needed and no party will agree. Therefore the media, heavily paid by Saudi money, will jump in and accuse without any proof the Syrian Army.
Will the Saudi trick work?

August 21st, 2013, 7:37 am

 

Hopeful said:

#848 Zoo

It is good that the UN inspectors are there. It is also good that they are people whom were approved by the Syrian government. Invite them to do a full investigation, and let them expose the culprits no matter who they are – regime forces or rebels. Crimes like these should not go unpunished. Agreed?

August 21st, 2013, 8:11 am

 

Sami said:

Disgusting how the slithering snakes on here are doing their best to coverup and shift the blame.

Over a thousand dead so far.

And btw using a joke such as bandar farting as an explanation for this heinous crime only shows how disgustingly low you are, not to mention the freak going to the old town and claiming nothing happened.

August 21st, 2013, 8:57 am

 

zoo said:

Hopeful

Unfortunately the UN mission will only determine if there was a use of chemical weapons. They are not entitled to investigate who used it against who.
It needs another UN commision to do that approved by the Syrian government and the UN. That’s what the Saudi are counting on. They know that Syria will not accept as it believes the inspectors will be manipulated just like they were in Iraq. The Saudi want therefore to use the UNSC to force Syria to accept an investigation team or face more sanctions and eventually Chapter 7.
The Saudi, with their great imagination think they can replay the Iraqi situation in Syria to force the West to intervene as they see the Geneva conference deadline approaching and the opposition increasingly squeezed.

It is depressing how the spitful opposition boast and inflate the numbers of casualties of the “chemical weapons attack” as for them it will be the long-waited ‘proof’ of the ill doing of the Syrian Army. They are just sickening…

August 21st, 2013, 9:00 am

 

don said:

Our arrogant resident racist from racist Israel, who’s free to call us TOWEL-HEADS on SC wants Israel’s errand boy to destroy Syria.

847. Akbar Palace said: .. Obama plays another round of golf.
We need a REAL president. Fast.

August 21st, 2013, 9:11 am

 

zoo said:

Sami

I think your mind is so bitter, spitful, vulgar and full of hatred that you see jokes where there isn’t

August 21st, 2013, 9:13 am

 

Sami said:

“It smells like Bandar in Ghouta…

What would you call that then? an observation?

The vulgarity is making a joke over the dead bodies of 1000 civilians.

And yes I am full of hatred from you and your nasty kind that deny massacres and stoop so low to make a sickening joke over it.

Have some decency and shame and ask the moderator to delete that sick post of yours.

August 21st, 2013, 9:21 am

 

zoo said:

That’s it… As I predicted before that they will, the desperate Saudis want to bring Syria to the UNSC under the pretext of the new ‘chemical attack’ that themselves have probably fabricated.
No one is fooled, the opposition is loosing ground by the day and will get to the Geneva conference totally weakened. This new trick is just another attempted to delay it.

Syrian opposition calls for UN meeting
2013-08-21 15:01

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Syrian-opposition-calls-for-UN-meeting-20130821

Dubai – The opposition Syrian National Coalition called for an urgent UN Security Council meeting, after at least 100 people reportedly died in an alleged gas attack by the army on Wednesday.

“I call on the Security Council to convene urgently,” National Coalition leader Ahmed al-Jarba told Al-Arabiya news channel, condemning the Syrian army’s bombardment of the Ghouta suburbs of Damascus as a “massacre”.

He urged the UN commission of inquiry on the use of chemical weapons to visit the site.

August 21st, 2013, 9:21 am

 

zoo said:

Sami

You are blinded by hatred.. you obviously bring down anything said to your level.
It is just an expression to say Bandar Ben Sultan is behind the event.
I have repeated that by refusing to join the Geneva conference, the opposition is from now on responsible or every single death happening in Syria.
Unfortunately the opposition seems to rejoice of more death as for them it represent more pressure on the foreign powers who refuse to help them.
Contrary to them, I don’t rejoice, it makes me sick to see innocent people paying for Bandar Ben Sultan and his clique.
By the way Bandar Ben Sultan smells death.

August 21st, 2013, 9:29 am

 

zoo said:

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13920530001270

In a statement issued on Wednesday, the General Command of the Army and Armed Forces dismissed the allegations as “completely baseless” and “untrue”, stressing that the report is part of the dirty media warfare on Syria.

The General Command reiterated its commitment to fulfilling its national and constitutional duties of combating terrorism everywhere in Syria as part of its duty to protect the country and its citizens.

The statement said that the allegations of terrorist gangs and the channels that support them about the Syrian Army’s use of chemical weapons constitute a desperate attempt to cover up the defeats they are suffering on the ground, and that these allegations reflect their hysteria, disorder and breakdown.

August 21st, 2013, 9:32 am

 

zoo said:

London to refer Syria to Security Council ( on allegations?)

Published: Aug. 21, 2013 at 9:20 AM

LONDON, Aug. 21 (UPI) — The British government intends to raise the alleged use of chemical weapons by Syrian forces at the U.N. Security Council, the foreign secretary said Wednesday.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague said he was “deeply concerned” by reports of a chemical weapons attack on rebel-held areas near Damascus.

“These reports are uncorroborated and we are urgently seeking more information,” he said in a statement. “But it is clear that if they are verified, it would mark a shocking escalation in the use of chemical weapons in Syria.”

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/08/21/London-to-refer-Syria-to-Security-Council/UPI-60061377091209/#ixzz2cbtziCBC

August 21st, 2013, 9:34 am

 

apple_mini said:

The shelling and bombing are really loud today even in the city center you can hear loud booming just keep going.

I notice no one seems bothering to raise eyebrows when an earth-shaking boom hit us. Damascenes got so used to it that they no longer get bothered?

No one wants to see civilian get caught in fighting and die. The rebels deliberately invade civilian areas, then infest those areas, using those as bases to launch attacks. In Damascus, Homs and Aleppo, the rebels never cease to shell regime held areas, deliberately targeting civilians. They do this by hiding at residential places when they have infected. All those vicious attack inevitably invite actions from SAA. The incurred civilian casualties are the fault of the rebels and its supporters.

Claiming the regime committing massacres while infesting residential areas including schools and hospitals, the rebels and its mouthpieces are still working on their propaganda to fool us. Have we ever heard any rebels voluntarily retreated from civilian areas in order Not to bring fighting to their neighborhood? Of course never. Instead, all we have heard are the rebels stationing there including foreign Jihadists to “protect” those civilians. They hijack the whole population inthose areas and use them as human shield.

Maybe that is the reason people no longer raise their eyebrows when SAA are shelling the rebels infected areas.

August 21st, 2013, 9:35 am

 

Alan said:

847. AKBAR PALACE
Your provocative comments reflect your low level of intelligence!

The Muslim Brotherhood:
The Many Faces of Their Majesty’s Service
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2013/4031mb_hms.html

…/../…

In 1928, when an Egyptian schoolteacher named Hasan al-Banna formed the Ikhwan al-Muslimeen, Egypt was a protectorate of Britain, which controlled its finances, government personnel, and armed forces. In matters concerning the international status of Egypt, decisions were taken in London; but where the internal administration of the country was concerned, the Consul General’s opinions were usually decisive. Although throughout the occupation, the facade of an Egyptian government, under the Khedives, was retained, British advisors attached to the various ministries were more influential than their ministers, while the Consul General steadily increased his control over the whole administrative machine.

In this milieu, the Brotherhood was set up as a religious secret society known publicly for its emphasis on Islamic education and for its charitable activities. But soon after it was formed, a British intelligence agent, Freya Stark, appeared on the scene in Egypt.

Stark, a self-proclaimed Jew-hater, was a wandering agent of British intelligence during the Second World War. In her book East Is West (1945), she compared “Fascist Rome,” “Zionist Jerusalem,” and the “British Empire.” She wrote: “The skein of the Middle East in all these centuries has gathered threads of very many colours; and no return to simple black and white will ever be possible again—whether it be the dream of Fascist Rome or Zionist Jerusalem, or that British form of empire which has become obsolete.”

Stark served with the British in the Middle East to help counteract Nazi influence in Aden, Cairo, and Baghdad. Later she was also sent on missions to the United States, Canada, and India. Once in Cairo, she soon set up the Ikhwan al-Hurriyah (Brotherhood of Freedom), ostensibly to keep track of the growing German activities in North Africa. Soon she made contact with the Brotherhood and became a source for London on the many different political movements that were springing up in Egypt, with the help of Banna and his people.

In other words, since its very inception, the Muslim Brotherhood has been a stool pigeon for British intelligence.

But this was not the only face of Banna’s “Islamic” outfit, and the MB soon moved into its next phase, developing links with the Nazis…./../….

August 21st, 2013, 9:36 am

 

revenire said:

After all this who would believe “Syrian activists” about anything? They’re not Syrian and they’re not activists.

August 21st, 2013, 9:42 am

 

don said:

Syrian army denies using chemical weapons in Damascus countryside

DAMASCUS, Aug. 21 – The Syrian army on Wednesday denied using chemical weapons in rebel-held areas in Damascus’ eastern countryside, saying such accusations were part of a “dirty ” media war against Syria.

In a statement by the General Command, the army said “biased channels of misdirection of bloodshed have, as they always do, made false allegations that the Syrian army used chemical weapons in Damascus countryside.”

The statement said that the allegations were a desperate attempt to cover up the defeat the rebels are suffering on the ground, adding that these allegations reflected “their hysteria, disorder and breakdown.”

Meanwhile, the army reiterated its commitment to fulfilling its national and constitutional duties of “combating terrorism across Syria” and called upon the rebels to turn themselves in “before it ‘s too late.”

The accusation came amid a UN mission here to investigate possible use of chemical weapons in the Syrian conflict. The probe was requested by the Syrian government, who accused the Western- backed rebels of using sarin agent in the northern town of Khan al-Assal.

The Syrian government welcomed the arrival of the UN inspectors on Sunday, pledging to cooperate with them and facilitate their work.

August 21st, 2013, 9:45 am

 

Alan said:

Erdo?an: Israel is behind Egypt coup, has evidence
The Turkish prime minister has suggested that Israel is behind the military intervention in Egypt that removed President Mohammed Morsi.
“Israel is behind the coup in Egypt, we have evidence,” Recep Tayyip Erdo?an told members of his party meeting in Ankara on Tuesday. He cited a French intellectual, without mentioning his name, who, according to Erdo?an, said in 2011 that the Muslim Brotherhood won’t be in power even if they are elected because “democracy is not the ballot box.” Erdo?an stressed the Jewish identity of the French intellectual.

August 21st, 2013, 9:50 am

 

revenire said:

From the excellent Moon of Alabama blog:
http://www.moonofalabama.org/

Syria: Another False Flag “Chemical Weapon” Attack

Whenever there is some international action with regards to Syria, a United Nations security council meeting or a G8 conference, the Syrian insurgents create and/or propagandize some “massacre” that they allege to have been purported by the Syrian government.

On Monday UN chemical weapon inspectors arrived in Damascus to investigate some older claims of chemical weapon use. Just in time a new incident happens with the insurgents alleging use of “chemical weapons” by the Syrian government just some 10 miles away from the inspectors hotel:

Syrian regime forces fired intense artillery and rocket barrages Wednesday on the eastern suburbs Damascus amid a fierce government offensive in what two pro-opposition groups claimed was a “poisonous gas” attack that killed dozens of people.

The claims came as a 20-member U.N. chemical weapons team was in Syria to investigate three sites where chemical weapons attacks had allegedly occurred in the past. The timing raises questions on why would the regime employ chemical agents during a visit by the U.N. experts.

The government promptly denied the reports of Wednesday’s chemical weapons’ attack as “absolutely baseless.”

Videos of the incident show many people, including children, with respiratory problems. But non of the first responders and medical personal in those videos wear any protection against chemical weapons.

Real chemical weapons, like Sarin, are persistent agents. They stick to the cloth of the victims and any contact with those victims would practically guarantee to kill the people who try to help them unless those people take serious precautions. Whatever happened in Syria today is therefore unlikely to be the consequence of military grade chemical weapons. Many other chemical agents, like insecticides based on organophospate or some industrial process chemicals, could induce the observed symptoms.

It would of course be totally irrational for the Syrian government to use chemical weapons just the moment that chemical weapon inspectors arrive in the country. But it makes a lot of sense for the insurgents and their foreign supporters to create such an incident, as the did previously, and to use it to renew their propaganda campaign against the Syrian government. It is therefore no surprise that the British government immediately jumped all over the case.

Simply answer “cui bono?” and you will know who is responsible for this incident.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/foreign-secretary-concerned-at-reports-of-chemical-attack-in-syria

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22424188

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUGrW-SjjbU&list=PLPC0Udeof3T4NORTjYmPoNCHn2vCByvYG&index=1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/syrian-pro-opposition-groups-claim-dozens-killed-in-poisonous-gas-attack-near-damascus/2013/08/21/8bd0791a-0a2b-11e3-89fe-abb4a5067014_story.html

August 21st, 2013, 9:51 am

 
 

don said:

Syrian government denies reports on using chemical weapons in Damascus

DAMASCUS, Aug. 21 – The Syrian government on Wednesday denied using chemical weapons in rebel-held areas in Damascus’ eastern countryside, saying such accusations were part of a “dirty” media war against Syria.

Syria’s Foreign Ministry said that the opposition’s allegations were totally “lies,” reiterating that “Even if we were in possession of such weapons, we would never use them.”

For his part, Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi charged that the rebels resorted to accuse the Syrian army of using the chemical weapons against rebels due to their “depression” with the major advancement of the government forces.

“There is an ongoing military operation that has been progressive for days and the Syrian army troops are advancing, which pushed the rebels to resort to this issue out of depression and to coincide with the first day work of a UN chemical inspection team,” the minister told the mainstream media, adding that the opposition want to deviate the UN team from its work.

Asked about photos published by the opposition activists on the alleged victims of the chemical attack, the minister said his government was not afraid of the probing mission and stressed confidence that the rebels were the ones who had initially used the chemical weapons in northern Syria.

August 21st, 2013, 10:04 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The Barbarian Persian crimes has exceeded all previous barbarism
The Assad criminal regime used the chemical weapons today causing the death of over 1100 people among them 25% are children.
UN now can determine the use of chemical weapons
Only the regime has chemical weapons, none of the regime held area suffered casualties such what happened in Ghouta, this is evidence enough to prove that the regime is the one who used them

August 21st, 2013, 10:21 am

 

apple_mini said:

Mass graves discovered by SAA after driving out those Islamic militants in Lattakia countryside were never mentioned on any “mainstream media”.

Because it was a clear crime against humanity committed by the rebels. MSM won’t report it since it is counterproductive to the propaganda they need to serve. Even though the culprit who committed those massacres are foreign Jihads.

Remember how quickly and how extensively the MSM reported those so-called massacre allegedly committed by the regime after the rebels and the opposition made those claims?

On the battleground, Syria is fighting against Islamic militants from over 50 countries;

On the propaganda front, Syria is fighting against international MSM like, BBC, CNN, AL JEZEERA, NEW YORK TIMES, and the list just keep going…

August 21st, 2013, 10:27 am

 

revenire said:

Majed only a boob would believe Syria used chemical weapons with the weapons inspectors right there. It’s idiotic.

What happened is your “revolution generation” friends murdered their “supporters”.

This will act to strengthen the Syrian government.

August 21st, 2013, 10:32 am

 

omen said:

743. apple”not really a massacre”mini said: SAA are crushing the Islamic militants by superior weapons, plannings and commanding. We use superior intelligence and knowledge.

we? another sectarian supremacist.

August 21st, 2013, 10:56 am

 

Alan said:

British Foreign Secretary William Ibn Hague and French President Francois Ibn Hollande called for UN inspectors to sow the area and reported that Britain and France will raise the issue at the United Nations in the near future 🙂

Are not feel those (non-responsible) ashamed of those movements Screwed thimble?

The inspection mission OOH, Ake Solstrem, said he saw the television footage from the latest attack, but not more.

“It sounds like something that should be looked into,” Mr. Solstrem told Swedish news agency TT.

The latest incident leaves more questions than answers.
Many will ask why the government wanted to use chemical weapons at a time when the UN inspectors in the country and the military must take care that the inspection would took place without complications.

The head of the Syrian National Council is in Turkey George Zabra
demanded direct military support to NATO troops in Syria for the FSA, which would stop the advance of government troops.

Vice-President of the Coalition of the Syrian opposition Mohamed Faroukh K-r
called on the international community to take responsibility for the fight against the Assad regime and stop the war in Syria by force, namely to introduce unmanned zone over the territory of Syria, to provide military assistance to FSA, open corridors surrounded in Damascus and Aleppo Holmes militants.

It specific largest farce, A Palace from Israel, alludes to the fact that the chemical application has been on his mind!!

August 21st, 2013, 10:57 am

 

omen said:

i was thinking about majabali’s lectures when i was struck by what it reminded me of. hitler also cited germany’s deprivation & humiliation in the aftermath of world war I to justify victimizing jews.

August 21st, 2013, 11:00 am

 

Majed97 said:

Looks loke the new chemical trick by the so called FSA does not impress the U.S.

Syrian rebels won’t advance U.S. interests: Joint Chiefs chairman

“The United States should not intervene militarily in Syria’s civil war because rebels battling Bashar Assad’s regime aren’t prepared to promote American interests if the tide shifts in their favor, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey said in a letter released Wednesday.”

http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-rebels-won-t-advance-u-s–interests–joint-chiefs-chairman-135743341.html

August 21st, 2013, 11:01 am

 

ghufran said:

This is the strongest indication that the US prefers to watch and do things through a third party in Syria:

In an August 19 letter to Representative Eliot Engel, obtained by the Associated Press, Gen. Dempsey effectively ruled out even limited intervention, including US cruise missile attacks and other options that wouldn’t require US troops on the ground.
“Syria today is not about choosing between two sides but rather about choosing one among many sides,” he said. “It is my belief that the side we choose must be ready to promote their interests and ours when the balance shifts in their favor. Today, they are not.”

The Telegraph believes the pics and videos of people suffocating from some type of poisonous inhalation are genuine but:

two questions remain. First, even if the pictures are genuine, when did the chemical weapons attack actually take place? Activists say that it happened early on Wednesday morning, coinciding with a bombardment of areas around Damascus by the regime’s forces.
But this explanation is open to doubt. Mr Assad has been advancing recently, beating back the rebels and recapturing territory. Using chemical weapons might make sense when he is losing, but why launch gas attacks when he is winning anyway?
Moreover, United Nations inspectors charged with discovering the truth about chemical weapons in Syria arrived in Damascus on Sunday. Superficially, it would seem strange for the regime to gas its enemies within 72 hours of letting these experts into the country.
In sum, a terrible incident probably did take place; whether it really happened on Wednesday morning is questionable.
There is only one way of finding out. The UN inspectors must visit the scene and conduct tests for the residue left by gas attacks. If this incident actually happened months ago and nothing has occurred recently, it would be in the regime’s own interest to let the experts do their job and demonstrate as much. If, however, the authorities prevent the inspectors from visiting the area, we can safely conclude that Mr Assad has something to hide. That will be the test.

(a third question is related to the fact that fighting forces are sometimes 100-200 meters apart, using chemical weapons in such environment would expose regime’s soldiers to the same weapon as the enemy, my best judgment is that chemical agents, not weapons-grade prohibited chemical weapons, were used in Syria on more than one occasion, but this particular claim 3 days after UN experts arrive to prove or rule out Assad’s troops’ guilt just does not make sense especially that Assad would not have allowed them in if he thought that there is a smoking gun those inspectors can easily spot)

Despite the three questions and the suspicious timing I agree with Hopeful that the UN experts should be allowed access to victims and areas associated with the claims.

August 21st, 2013, 11:01 am

 

revenire said:

Statement from the Syrian High Command (courtesy of Ziad at Syrian Perspective):

FIRST POST – AUGUST 21, 2013 – SYRIAN HIGH COMMAND DENOUNCES LIES AND DISINFORMATION IN PROPAGANDA MEDIA; SYRIAN ARMY ROLLS OVER TERRORIST ____*;KURDISH HEROES KILL TURK “INTELLIGENCE” AGENTS WHO WERE HELPING TO EXTERMINATE SYRIAN KURDISH VILLAGERS; THE JIG IS UP!

“The channels which promote sedition, misinformation and spilling of Syrian blood have, as is their habit, claimed that the Syrian Arab Army used today chemical weapons in the area of rural Damascus….. The Syrian General Staff affirms that these claims are false, both generally and specifically, and are devoid completely of any truth, to the extent that they can be classified as being in the framework of a reprehensible media war which is led by some nations against Syria. (The General Command of the Army) emphasizes the completion of its task as a national duty in confronting terrorism wherever it is found on the soil of the Syrian Arab Republic; it being an act of prosecuting its duty to defend the nation and citizens.”

The General Command spokesman went to to say that those channels and the terrorists they support are accusing the Syrian Arab Army of using chemical weapons only “…as a desperate effort to cover up their disastrous setbacks on the ground which reflect the state of hysteria, chaos and collapse from which these groups are now suffering.”

*censored

http://syrianperspective.blogspot.com/2013/08/first-post-august-21-2013-syrian-high.html

August 21st, 2013, 11:02 am

 

revenire said:

Bravo General Dempsey!

August 21st, 2013, 11:03 am

 

zoo said:

A rebel victory may be worse for the USA then its defeat

Syrian rebels wouldn’t back US interests, Top US general says

WASHINGTON – The Associated Press

The Obama administration is opposed to even limited U.S. military intervention in Syria because it believes rebels fighting the al-Assad regime wouldn’t support American interests if they were to seize power right now, Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint

August 21st, 2013, 11:08 am

 

omen said:

874.

i’m sure UN inspectors will not be intimidated and will be objective after seeing the regime’s willingness to gas its own people.

i’m positive they dont worry about being gassed themselves.

August 21st, 2013, 11:09 am

 

revenire said:

Omen you’re a cartoon character.

August 21st, 2013, 11:18 am

 

omen said:

let’s break this down.

877. zoo said:
The Obama administration is opposed to even limited U.S. military intervention in Syria because it believes rebels fighting the al-Assad regime wouldn’t support American interests if they were to seize power right now, Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint

what is meant by US interests? israel? rev at 9. pointed out this war is strengthening hezbollah instead of weakening it. that’s not good for israel.

or by US interests do they mean the pipeline intended to bring down iranian oil to feed european & asian market? surely the opposition can reach an accord on that in a negotiated political solution post assad.

August 21st, 2013, 11:19 am

 

omen said:

omen you’re a cartoon character.

you lack a counter argument so stoop to name calling. haha, i win.

August 21st, 2013, 11:22 am

 

revenire said:

With Dempsey it is pretty clear: it isn’t worth World War III to get rid of the Syrian government.

Dempsey has always felt this way. He knows what would happen if this war got out of hand. The entire region – maybe the entire world – would be set on fire.

August 21st, 2013, 11:38 am

 

revenire said:

Omen, yes you win. I could not possible compete with someone who has nearly 50,000 tweets.

August 21st, 2013, 11:39 am

 

Alan said:

The chemists Russians inspectors are welcome . They will facilitate the work of the United Nations inspectors in order to detect the type of chemicals used in Syria and the source of this materials !

August 21st, 2013, 11:44 am

 

Alan said:

http://rt.com/news/russia-syria-chemical-attack-801/
Russia suggests Syria ‘chemical attack’ carried out by rebels, provocation not ruled out

putting up stories using Debka File as the source with a supposed quote from Assad that he would use gas if Damascus was threatened putting this attack on Assad and at the time the article had no coverups,deceptions and propaganda tag!

August 21st, 2013, 11:51 am

 

revenire said:

Capt. Omen I am not sure what argument you think we were having but I can assure you it is only in your mind. Posting tweets from Twitter is not proof of anything, not a debate and not worth anything but a laugh. Anyone here can see the cartoon-like character of your TL. What you do all day, every day – to the tune of nearly 50,000 tweets – is troll Twitter to have imaginary debates with people you don’t know. You believe you’re involved in a war between “good” (the cannibals) and “bad” (the Syrian government) but you are in a fantasy land, thus me saying you are a cartoon. Let me assure you that your ideas about this war are pure fantasy, and pure nonsense.

You do amuse me so please never fly away in the FSA Air Force plane you wrote about.

This chemical attack stuff is trash. Your “good” rebels murdered a bunch of people – including children – to try to get something going with the UN inspectors there. They failed.

August 21st, 2013, 11:57 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Russia can go to hell and kill his own people with his own weapons instead of promoting Syria’s destruction.

Let’s face the truth: the US is not a power in the Middle East anymore. Obama has no red lines for Assad and even the evidencies of use of chemical weapons will have no results.

The UN too is coming to the level of excrements in view of inaction about Syria massacres.

Shame on the world institutions and specially on those supposed to be the free democratics flags.

August 21st, 2013, 11:57 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

REVENIRE

You do not care a shxxxt about 1.300 people killed. You do not have any values…. well sorry, you have one: Assad Forever written in stones in the Qassiun Mountains. .

August 21st, 2013, 11:59 am

 

Alan said:

The stupidity is thick….
U.S. sponsors mass murder of innocent people. Yet the U.S. claims they are the most humaine country in the world. It is so disgusting how in reality the U.S. is the one who is invading other countries and is the one who is behind mass murders. But the people are waking up to the truth and really who blames them for hating US so much? We only hear the propaganda from MSM in the U.S. When will the people of the U.S. wake up themselves and see the truth?

August 21st, 2013, 12:03 pm

 

zoo said:

The Ghuta ‘attack’ is a trap set by Bandar Ben Sultan

The opposition have set a trap to the Syrian government. They know that the Syrian Government will refuse an adhoc visit to the sites without a lengthy agreement with the UN team. Therefore they expect the site to never be visited and will be cleaned as soon as possible. By its refusal the Syrian Government will appear as it is ‘hiding something’ and therefore guilty: A rerun of the Iraqi nuclear weapon theater.

In view of the timing, I wonder if the Islamists within the rebels in Ghuta have not resorted to a suicide ‘chemical attack’ on the people they are supposed to protect in a desperate attempt to bring the West to save them from total annihilation?

August 21st, 2013, 12:08 pm

 

Alan said:

Hmmm, let’s see, what nearby country routinely uses chemical (white phosphorus) and radiological (depleted uranium) weapons on Arab civilians?
And has a clear incentive (and explicitly stated policy, ref. Oded Yinon) to fracture the entire neighbourhood into warring statelets, frittering away their energies in internecine squabbles??

August 21st, 2013, 12:11 pm

 

revenire said:

Sandro Loewe your Nusra cannibal friends murdered these people to try to get an intervention.

August 21st, 2013, 12:17 pm

 

revenire said:

This latest stunt with “chemical weapons” is really beyond belief. Only the biggest clowns would believe it. It is so absurd that even anti-Syrian government press organs like the Washington Post and the oft quoted Charles Lister don’t buy it:

Analysts said they did not understand why the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad would have the audacity to use chemical weapons on a large scale at a time when U.N. investigators were present in the country.

“Logically, it would make little sense for the Syrian government to employ chemical agents at such a time, particularly given the relatively close proximity of the targeted towns,” said Charles Lister, an analyst at IHS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Center.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/syrian-activists-accuse-government-of-deadly-chemical-attack-near-damascus/2013/08/21/aea157e6-0a50-11e3-89fe-abb4a5067014_story.html

(Thanks to Penny for pointing out the WaPo story.)

August 21st, 2013, 12:28 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

If UN fails to do something,then Assad will use chemical weapons again and again

August 21st, 2013, 12:35 pm

 

revenire said:

FSA Facebook pages using photos of Rabaa victims in their claims of chemical attacks in Eastern Ghouta:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSMaNDfCMAE8Oc8.jpg:large

August 21st, 2013, 12:40 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

For those who call Sunnis Islamist terrorist, what do you call today chemical use by Bashar, it is worst terrorism

August 21st, 2013, 12:41 pm

 

Afram said:

Test… Ben & Jerry’s ice cream

August 21st, 2013, 1:07 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

halabja in Ghouta

Assad is desperate, he does not have enough soldiers,
Russia must gave the O.K. signal to use chemical weapons

August 21st, 2013, 1:13 pm

 

Afram said:

UK, Tuesday 16 July 2013
*1-The British Government is to give Syrian opposition forces £656,000 worth of equipment to protect against chemical and biological weapon attacks.

*2-Libya’s looted stockpiles of chemical weapons been shipped to Syria through Turkey … Go Fish

Hi Majbali

August 21st, 2013, 1:13 pm

 

Tara said:


Today’s crimes are … not the first time the regime has used chemical weapons. But they constitute a turning point in the regime’s operations. This time it was for annihilation rather than terror.

The Local Coordination Committees activist group claims 1,360 have been killed. It is impossible for the Guardian to verify the number of deaths.

The Guardian.

August 21st, 2013, 1:54 pm

 

Ghufran said:

This is how funerals of victims of terrorist attacks on Latakia reef went:
??? ??? ??????? ????? ????????? ?? ???? ??????? ??????? ????????? .. ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? ????
?? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ????? .. ????? ?? ?????? ?????, ???
? ??? ???? ??? ??????? ?? ????? .. ???? ???? ???? ????? ????? ????? ??????? ???????
That says a lot about the regime and its corrupt heads.

August 21st, 2013, 2:34 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

It is not the smell of anyone but that of the rotten poisonous and dirty souls of regime propagandists and agents here an elsewhere. They should and will be held liable for supporting crimes against humanity and for attempting to obstruct justice.

August 21st, 2013, 2:35 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Assad Kebab is the dish of next season. Book now.

August 21st, 2013, 2:38 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

The personification of vulgarity is when someone with a poisonous soul like Zoo calls SAMI vulgar.

August 21st, 2013, 2:41 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

Syrian Hamster,

Too bad the Syrian oppostion and the GOI are not on speaking terms…

http://www.vice.com/vice-news/israels-killer-robots

Meanwhile, an atrocity on the level of Sabra & Shatilla just occurred in Syria, and the muqawamistas are pretending it didn’t happen or someone else other than the government is responsible. Dead civilians without any body trauma.

August 21st, 2013, 2:45 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Hamster
Truely you would expect for them to express sorrow, but they don’t,,they don’t condemn such massacre ,they deny fact ,they are not normal,they are not human

August 21st, 2013, 2:49 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

MAJED
They are doing exactly what i expect from low-life agents of a criminal regime. Be as criminally minded, vulgar, and ugly as they can be, which is boundless.

August 21st, 2013, 3:03 pm

 

ghufran said:

reposting for a reason:
The Telegraph believes the pics and videos of people suffocating from some type of poisonous inhalation are genuine but:

two questions remain. First, even if the pictures are genuine, when did the chemical weapons attack actually take place? Activists say that it happened early on Wednesday morning, coinciding with a bombardment of areas around Damascus by the regime’s forces.
But this explanation is open to doubt. Mr Assad has been advancing recently, beating back the rebels and recapturing territory. Using chemical weapons might make sense when he is losing, but why launch gas attacks when he is winning anyway?
Moreover, United Nations inspectors charged with discovering the truth about chemical weapons in Syria arrived in Damascus on Sunday. Superficially, it would seem strange for the regime to gas its enemies within 72 hours of letting these experts into the country.
In sum, a terrible incident probably did take place; whether it really happened on Wednesday morning is questionable.
There is only one way of finding out. The UN inspectors must visit the scene and conduct tests for the residue left by gas attacks. If this incident actually happened months ago and nothing has occurred recently, it would be in the regime’s own interest to let the experts do their job and demonstrate as much. If, however, the authorities prevent the inspectors from visiting the area, we can safely conclude that Mr Assad has something to hide. That will be the test.

(a third question is related to the fact that fighting forces are sometimes 100-200 meters apart, using chemical weapons in such environment would expose regime’s soldiers to the same weapon as the enemy, my best judgment is that chemical agents, not weapons-grade prohibited chemical weapons, were used in Syria on more than one occasion, but this particular claim 3 days after UN experts arrive to prove or rule out Assad’s troops’ guilt just does not make sense especially that Assad would not have allowed them in if he thought that there is a smoking gun those inspectors can easily spot)

Despite the three questions and the suspicious timing I agree with Hopeful that the UN experts should be allowed access to victims and areas associated with the claims.

August 21st, 2013, 3:46 pm

 

Tara said:

Ghufran

The best time for Assad to use chemical weapons is now at the time when the UN team came to investigate. The reason of the timing would be to cast doubt of who the perpetrator is. The regime by doing so thinks that it is committing the perfect crime.

Stupidity beyond belief!

August 21st, 2013, 4:00 pm

 
 

revenire said:

LOL @ “the perfect crime”

August 21st, 2013, 4:09 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria forces attack militants in Damascus countryside
21 August, 2013 09:34:00

http://www.military-world.net/Syria/5198.html

Syrian security forces have attacked armed groups in Damascus countryside, as the army continues to make gains on the ground.

According to an official source, Syrian forces killed a large number of foreign-backed militants in Barzeh neighborhood and near al-Manasher traffic circle in Joubar countryside on Wednesday.

Reports say that Syrian forces also carried out special operations against the foreign-backed militants in al-Thanawiya traffic circle in Harasta city, Tall Kurdi area, Deir Salman town, al-Qassimiyeh farms, and al-Mleiheh town, killing dozens of militants.

On Tuesday, the army regained control of almost all parts of the northern countryside of the city of Latakia. A large number of the militants were reportedly killed in the operation.

August 21st, 2013, 4:10 pm

 

Alan said:

weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime’

Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad’s regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country…….
http://www.dailypaul.com/272545/us-backed-plan-to-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-on-syria-and-blame-it-on-assads-regime

August 21st, 2013, 4:12 pm

 

ghufran said:

This is from The Guardian:

One chemical weapons inspector who is not in Syria told the Guardian he was doubtful the UN inspection team would gain quick access.
“I very much doubt the team will be given access to the site. The whole inspection has been delayed for weeks and months already over the formalities of visiting each site.”
Many of symptoms seen on Wednesday could be caused by other substances, and chemical weapons inspectors will need to rule these out. Organophosphate pesticides can have similar effects to sarin, and several, including tetraethyl pyrophosphate (TEPP) and parathion, have caused deaths.
Missiles can strike chemical stores, releasing poisonous gases such as chlorine, which is used to sterilise water. Shells that carry sarin can also carry fuel-air explosives, which can cause suffocation; the munition produces a huge cloud of fuel that is ignited to produce a blast and suck huge amounts of oxygen out of the air.
Even if allowed access UN inspectors would have a short while to gather concrete evidence from Ghouta.
For its part, Syria’s closest ally, Russia, claimed the attack on Wednesday was a deliberately staged provocation by rebel forces designed to trigger international intervention.

August 21st, 2013, 4:14 pm

 

Alan said:

CIA website says Al Qaeda “has crude procedures for making mustard agent, sarin & VX”
https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/terrorist_cbrn/terrorist_CBRN.htm

August 21st, 2013, 4:17 pm

 
 

Uzair8 said:

#909 Tara

Yes, just what I was thinking. I wouldn’t put it past this regime to think up such dastardly schemes.

LOL @ Rev’s nervous laugh @ #911. He isn’t really laughing. Just wants to appear to be laughing to give the impression Tara’s suggestion was outrageous. He knows it wasn’t as outrageous as he would hope.

August 21st, 2013, 4:32 pm

 

zoo said:

What will the US and EU do? More sanctions? NATO to bomb Syria? Create multiple NFZ, arms Al Qaeda? withdraw ambassadors? yet another UN general assembly condemnation (any UNSC resolution will vetoed by Russia and China)

There is nothing very original that the West can do except wild scenarios in the media. It has shown in 3 years that it is paralyzed as it does not want to get involved in another war that would be threatening their allies in the region.
Will it on an allegation?

The UN will come with a call for an investigating team. It will take weeks and months and maybe years to find out who is behind this terrible crime. In the meantime the Geneva conference is getting close and the Syrian army is liberating all the areas they can.
It seems that the mass sacrifice of these innocents is just a diversion, accidental or fabricated by the opposition to delay the UN team planning to investigate Khan al Assal, to hide the continuous defeats the rebels are sustaining from the Syrian army and to create even more excuses for the SNC to refuse to participate in the Geneva conference.

August 21st, 2013, 4:32 pm

 

zoo said:

#917 Ghufran

In view of the violent war between the FSA and Al Nusra, I wouldn’t be surprised that, if it is not an accident, it is possibly an internal opposition account settling among the rebels factions( FSA vs Islamists) that the ‘activists’ have immediately pinned on the SAA.

Anything is possible within the rebels thousands militias. The opposition is a rotten corpse in advanced decomposition.

August 21st, 2013, 4:44 pm

 

apple_mini said:

The desperado in Syria did it again: using crude toxic gas in order to provoke a foreign intervention to save the insurgency aka “hopeless revolution”.

Besides the perpetrator, who knows well whether the regime has used any CW from its arsenal? It is the US intelligent. They know very well where those CW are stored and any movement regarding those CW is tightly under US intelligent’s watch. This has been revealed by US administration itself. Every time there was a movement on the ground including change of security in regarding of those CW, the US administration deliberately “leaked” to media. Of course, US intelligence knows more than we don’t know.

They are doing this for the sake of Israel and other allies in the region. Assad’s CW arsenal is considered to be the biggest threat to those US allies and master.

If the regime had used its CW to attack, US would not have to wait for the rebels and the opposition to report it. The reaction from the US administration would have been completely different.

But they decided to let the rebels and the opposition to play along their dirty false flag games.

What the US administration is referring “toxic gas” instead of “chemical weapons” came to us without surprise.

August 21st, 2013, 4:46 pm

 

Tara said:

The US should strike the presidential palace after giving a warning to Bashar to evacuate. This will serve as a gesture of what could happen if he doesn’t agree to a political transition of power at Geneva. He may then consider resigning and passing it on to a figure acceptable to the opposition to negotiate a transition. This may save Syria from a complet destruction that will eventually affect the Alawis more than anyone else.

August 21st, 2013, 4:53 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Ok. Let’s play some games. Turn the table around.

So the regime couldn’t possibly have done this while the UN investigators are present in the country.

Some here are suggesting (so is Russia) that the opposition is responsible to provoke intervention. Yeh. Right! While the UN inspectors are in Syria?

Provoke intervention? Yeh, right! The Inspectors would find the rebels responsible and thus rule out any grounds for intervention. So what would be the point of such an opposition plot?

August 21st, 2013, 4:54 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

I wonder what ridiculous response Angry Arab has come up with on the chemical reports?

LOL.

His site freezes my window so I’m not bothering checking.

August 21st, 2013, 5:00 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

From the Guardian:

“Most of the victims did not appear to be injured but died out of suffocation. I held a young boy whose body was like a piece of wood and his colour was very blue. He did not have any wound.”

By Wednesday night, more than 120 videos had been uploaded to the internet, most depicting scenes of men women and children in respiratory distress, on watery floors, and doctors describing the victims’ symptoms. Other videos showed scores of bodies wrapped in white shrouds, or lying on grey concrete.

White foam was bubbling from the mouth and nostrils of many victims. Some writhed in distress, apparently struggling to breathe.

Doctors at makeshift clinics said they were working without oxygen and had been overrun by the number of victims, many of whom needed lifesaving treatment that they could not provide.

Treatment of victims appeared rudimentary, with water and vinegar among the means of trying to dilute the effects. “We know when we have an area targeted by fatal gases we would take plastic masks and put wet cloths on our noses and mouths,” said Basha. “But most of the civilians do not know that they have to do that.”

Sergeant Abu Ali, who runs a field hospital in the Nashabiya area of eastern Damascus, said he had received patients who were vomiting and had high temperatures, breathing problems, limb stiffness and were in comas. “We received 60 cases. Most of them were sent to the nearby farms after their situation was stabilised and those with acute symptoms were kept here. I have very few medicines and all the oxygen tubes I have had run out now. People need intensive care.”

One witness told Reuters by Skype from the suburb of Erbin: “We would go into a house and everything was in its place, every person was in their place. They were lying where they had been. They looked like they were asleep. But they were dead.”

The ‘terrorists’ are swiftly “exterminated.” Assad’s not-so-new no-blood killing method. The presidency will schedule a UN visit for next January.

August 21st, 2013, 5:01 pm

 

Hopeful said:

With the chemical attack today, regardless of who did it, I think that Syrians have lost the right to rule themselves during this period. The regime is either attacking his people with chemical weapons, or, after two and a half years of launching a war on the rebels, has ended up with terrorists with chemical weapons inside Syria.

The regime cannot and should not continue. The opposition has failed to produce a viable alternative. Both sides seem to be locked in a vicious war that kills more and more Syrians every day. Enough is enough!

Therefore I call on the UN to intervene immediately. The US and Russia should work out a plan to take over and save the Syrians from the leaders, on both sides, that are causing death and carnage. Syrians lost their right to rule themselves.

People attempting to commit suicide are placed under doctors supervision until they are deemed stable enough to be released. Syria is committing suicide and needs adult supervision.

Now go ahead Zoo and Rev, call me names…

August 21st, 2013, 5:01 pm

 

revenire said:

I am sure the UN is following SC as closely as the rest of us.

Chemical weapons used by the government? LOL

August 21st, 2013, 5:05 pm

 

Tara said:

William

Welcome back. I am very happy with your return.

August 21st, 2013, 5:14 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

From the Guardian (same story a href=”http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/21/syria-chemicals-weapons-experts-lethal-toxin?CMP=twt_fd” rel=”nofollow”>>as posted by Ghufran)…

What could have been used in Ghouta?

Sarin

A colourless, odourless liquid that kills mostly through inhalation. Like other nerve agents, sarin works by blocking the “off switches” of the nervous system, causing nerves to fire constantly. It causes drooling, sweating and pinpoint pupils and usually kills through suffocation. Contaminated clothes can release sarin for half an hour after exposure, contaminating first-aiders.

Tabun

The first nerve agent to be developed, and the easiest to make, as the chemicals needed can be found on the open market. Tabun has a slightly fruity odour, but the smell may be too weak for people to notice. It will stay on surfaces for longer than sarin.

Soman

The fastest-killing nerve agent, soman works in the same way as other organophosphate nerve agents. It has a slight fruity or camphor odour.

VX

A more potent nerve agent than sarin, VX is believed to be in the Syrian stockpile of chemical weapons. It is an oily amber liquid and, like sarin, has no smell or taste. It works in a similar way to sarin and causes the same symptoms.

Phosgene

An industrial chemical used to make plastics and pesticides. Phosgene was responsible for more deaths than any other chemical in the first world war. High exposures can cause fluid on the lungs, shortness of breath and heart failure.

Insecticides

Nerve agents are the most potent forms of organophosphates, but milder forms are used as insecticides. These can still kill in large quantities. Insecticides developed for farm use such as tetraethyl pyrophosphate (TEPP) and parathion have caused numerous deaths in the past.

The most horrifying of the videos are of the children, struggling to breathe, inert. Since there is no blood, squeamish Assadists may safely view.

And then say, “LOL.”

August 21st, 2013, 5:16 pm

 

ilya said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w89QzMqKmg8#t=26
Rebels injecting chemicals into dead bodies this is hilarious, hmm what the motive …

August 21st, 2013, 5:20 pm

 

revenire said:

“ROFL” Scherk

August 21st, 2013, 5:25 pm

 

zoo said:

#Revenire

The opposition uses death propaganda in its cheapest and more cynical forms.

August 21st, 2013, 5:29 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

I hope Edward Dark sees the reality of this regime and defects.

https://twitter.com/edwardedark/status/370278759653310464

August 21st, 2013, 5:30 pm

 

zoo said:

#928 Hpeful

Are you a psychic? Maybe the Pentagon should hire you. Your jumping to conclusion is simply infantile.

In my view it is possibly one of the Islamist militia unhappy with the division of the spoils of the war that decided to give the other militia a lesson by using some chemicals available around or brought from Turkey. It is one more manifestation of the rebels divisions and violent antagonism.

August 21st, 2013, 5:35 pm

 

zoo said:

Apple_mini

A good point. Toxic gaz are not necessarily chemical weapons.
I hope the whole morbid opposition obsession in fabricating ‘red lines’ will be exposed soon.

August 21st, 2013, 5:40 pm

 

zoo said:

The Russia thinks it was a rocket launched from a rebels area onto another rebels held area

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Russia-Rebels-staged-Syria-gas-attack-20130821

Foreign Ministry spokesperson Alexander Lukashevich said that its sources in Syria said that a homemade rocket carrying unidentified chemical substances had been launched from an area controlled by the opposition.

“All this cannot but suggest that once again we are dealing with a pre-planned provocation,” Lukashevich said in a statement.

“This is supported by the fact that the criminal act was committed near Damascus at the very moment when a mission of UN experts had successfully started their work of investigating allegations of the possible use of chemical weapons there,” he said.

August 21st, 2013, 5:46 pm

 

revenire said:

Exclusive-Photo- Al Jazzera, Reuter published the news of massacre in East Ghouta, Damascus one day before the massacre happened.

These evidences show the massacre by terrorists in Syria and their struggle for making people to believe that Syrian Regime behind the massacre. You will see that the terrorists uploaded videos before the massacre(their so-called allegation of the time when Syrian Army attacked with chemical weapons).

The news of so- called chemical wepaon attack by Syrian Regime was published by Al- Jazzera (http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/dozens-people-have-been-killed-syria-nerve-gas-attack-government-forces-activists-said) at 09: 28. Another pro- Syrian terrorists site:”Baath Regime used chemical weapons in East Ghouta, Damascus, Jobar, Ain Tarma, Zamalka, Western Ghouta, Muaddamiyah around 03: 30 am. The source said that the death toll may rise because the lack of equipments and medical sources… At the same time one of the well know pro-Syrian terrorists youtube account ‘SHAMSNN’ uploaded tens videos quickly between 03: 00 and 04: 00. MOST IMPORTANT evidence is that the uploading time is 20 August !!!BUT THEY ACCUSED SYRIAN REGIME FOR ATTACK ON 21 AUGUST!!!

http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2013/08/22/photo-al-jazzera-reuter-published-the-news-of-massacre-in-east-ghouta-damascus-one-day-before-the-massacre-happened-by-assad/

August 21st, 2013, 5:48 pm

 

zoo said:

Revenire

It is no surprise. The armed rebels are collapsing under their divisions, the SNC is hardy crawling, the SAA is victorious anywhere they go.
That seems Bandar Al Sultan’s last attempt to bring NATO in to attack Syria. It seems it is failing like the alleged ‘massacre’ of Houla failed to bring NATO in a year ago.

August 21st, 2013, 6:06 pm

 

revenire said:

This chemical weapons talk is funny. Anyone who believes this nonsense is what my dad used to call a “mook”.

The outrage is also quite funny.

August 21st, 2013, 6:13 pm

 

ilya said:


uh oh rebels execute little kids ,whats their crime ?
Supporting Assad
I did not see too much condemnation from rebel supporters,yet they crying for innocent little lives lost double standards?

August 21st, 2013, 6:19 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Yassin Al Haj Saleh
·
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August 21st, 2013, 6:29 pm

 

Afram said:

Prof Alexander Kekule:of the Institute for Medical Microbiology at Halle University in Germany,told the BBC” that one of the videos – although of poor quality – was consistent with the aftermath of an attack with a chemical agent.

But he added that none of the patients showed typical signs of sarin or other organophosphorous nerve agents, or signs of blistering agents.

It also cannot be totally excluded that the whole video is a political staging”

August 21st, 2013, 6:33 pm

 

revenire said:

Ilya if any children died in this “chemical attack” it was the rebels that murdered them. That is the irony all those here complaining about the Syrian government must face.

August 21st, 2013, 6:34 pm

 

revenire said:

The entire thing is pathetic and laughable. If the United States really believed this nonsense of a chemical weapons attack they’d launch an attack on Syria. Nothing. At last report the UN isn’t even going to investigate it. The rebels are like the fabled boy who cried wolf. They do this all the time and have done it each time the UN was inside Syria.

August 21st, 2013, 6:45 pm

 

revenire said:

In fact, just last week many terrorist supporters here said that the people of Latakia should be murdered because they support the Syrian government. No one cried about dead Alawites. No one cried about dead Sunni. No one cried about dead Christians. They said that Latakia deserved to be attacked and the people there were all “Assad thugs” and should all die. Now they have use a staged chemical weapons attack with fake images of children to get support?

August 21st, 2013, 6:54 pm

 

revenire said:

Chemical warhead targeted eastern suburbs of Syria’s Damascus – Russian Foreign Ministry

The missile with a chemical poison gas sarine was launched by Syrian rebels and targeted the eastern suburbs of Damascus. This is according to the Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich.

“Early morning of August 21, a homemade rocket carrying an unknown chemical warfare agent was launched on the eastern suburbs of Damascus. The missile resembled the rocket which was used by the rebels on March 19 in Khan al-Asal,” said Lukashevich.

“Moscow believes it is important to carry out an objective and professional investigation of what happened”, the diplomat continued. “It looks like an attempt to create a pretext for the UN Security Council to side with the opponents of Assad’s regime and thus undermine Geneva-2 talks which are now scheduled for August 28”.

“Once again we urge all those who have the opportunity to influence the armed extremists to make every effort to put an end to provocations with the use of chemical agents,” Lukashevich asserted.

Noteworthy is the fact that “the biased regional media immediately, as if on demand, began an aggressive information attack, placing the responsibility for the attaks on Assad’s government. All of this can only suggest that we are dealing with a pre-planned provocation,” Lukashevich sttaed.

“This is supported by the fact that the criminal act was committed near Damascus at the very moment when UN investigators began their work in Syria”, the diplomat concluded.

Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_08_21/Chemical-warhead-was-launched-from-eastern-suburbs-of-Syrias-Damascus-Russian-Foreign-Ministry-0718/

August 21st, 2013, 6:55 pm

 

Ali said:

There’s nothing called a chemical massacre in Reef-Damascus, these photos are tampered and photoshopped. Those who suffocate should change at least the color of their faces and bodies (ask the Dr.Death on this forum) while those “acting dead” kids looked quite healthy with their fair/brown skin. If and there’s a bloody big IF here these “acting/sleeping” kids were dead then I assume the terrorists have killed them to create a wave of shock across the world.

On the other hand to all those sectarian dweebs on this website, how come none of you moved a finger when your terrorist allies invaded our Alawi villages few weeks ago. Or is it “Halal” for Alawi kids to be slaughtered and women to be raped?

Soon enough the Egyptian and Syrian armies will unite and we will push the terrorists to the sea.

August 21st, 2013, 7:08 pm

 

Ali said:

1982 Hafez Al Assad Speech About the Muslim Brotherhood

August 21st, 2013, 7:16 pm

 

Ali said:

?????? ????? ???? ????? ?? ???? ?????.. ???? ????

August 21st, 2013, 7:18 pm

 

Ali said:

?????? ???? ????? ?? ???? ???

August 21st, 2013, 7:20 pm

 

Tara said:

Ali

I like you as Ameera more and as True the most.

August 21st, 2013, 7:28 pm

 

zoo said:

After Syria and Egypt, now Lebanon wagw a war against the Islamsits, whether Sunni Moslem Brotherhood , Sunni Salafists or Sunnu Takfirists and even Syrian rebels

Lebanon army in ‘total war’ against terrorism
Lebanese army launches military campaign to fight ‘terrorism’ in Lebanon
AFP , Wednesday 21 Aug 2013

The Lebanese army is fighting a “total war” against terrorism whose aim is “to provoke sectarian strife” in the small Mediterranean country, army chief General Jean Kahwaji said Wednesday.

“We are faced today with one of the biggest dangers, which Arab and Western countries are already confronting, and that is terrorism, which strikes out whenever it has the chance,” Kahwaji told a gathering of retired officers.

Heavily armed Hezbollah, a key ally of Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad, was struck last week by a massive car bomb attack that left 27 people dead in its southern Beirut stronghold.

The attack came a month after another car bomb, also in that area, wounded some 50 people.

“I announce today that the army is engaged in a total war against terrorism. (The military) has been chasing for months a terrorist cell that prepares car bombs and sends them to residential neighbourhoods,” said Kahwaji, describing last Thursday’s car blast as “one such” attack.

“The gravity, according to our intelligence, lies in the fact that this cell is not targeting any one region or community in particular, but that it aims to provoke sectarian strife by targeting different regions,” said Kahwaji.

A Lebanese and two Palestinians suspected of preparing a car bomb attack were arrested days after the most recent blast, the General Security agency said on Tuesday.

They were accused of planning to plant a car laden with 250 kg of explosives in the Naameh area, also in southern Beirut, the agency added.

August 21st, 2013, 7:34 pm

 

Ali said:

Tara, don’t you have a date with your terrorist allies to practice Jihad Nikah?

August 21st, 2013, 7:38 pm

 

revenire said:

“I announce today that the army is engaged in a total war against terrorism.” General Jean Kahwaji

I hope the Lebanese army destroys them all. This is truly great news.

August 21st, 2013, 7:42 pm

 

Tara said:

Ali

The site is moderated. If I complained, you will be banned.

August 21st, 2013, 7:42 pm

 

Ali said:

Tara appears @ 0:35

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August 21st, 2013, 7:43 pm

 

Ali said:

Complain away, who freck’n cares!!

Please publish your availability timetable

August 21st, 2013, 7:46 pm

 

Ali said:

You always wanted Alawi kids to be killed you sectarian thug.

I’ll tell you what; Alwai kids will live and enjoy every inch of Syria al-Assad

August 21st, 2013, 7:48 pm

 

Ziad said:

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https://www.facebook.com/Akhbar.oruba/posts/488960937886204

August 21st, 2013, 7:58 pm

 

Observer said:

Either it did the attack or it failed to prevent the attack. Either way it is still an inept and criminal regime.

It was supposed to be a limited attack to start a new offensive in the area but apparently it went beyond limited as the inept SAA is usually capable of doing.

Now what about the hundred thousand dead, what about the massacres that it either perpetrated or could not prevent or punish its perpetrators.

What about the Kurds fleeing into Iraqi Kurdistan or about the Alawites fleeing Latakia province or about the populations of Homs and of Hama and all the other localities.

What about the millions of refugees that have been displaced and are in tent cities across the border.

What about the Syrian embassies in Jordan and Lebanon providing anything to the people displaced

And the list could also include the more than 500 000 disappeared and detained without warrants or due process or trial.

What about the news from none other than Cham Press that the reconstruction of Syria will require 6 million workers and 140 million tons of cement?

All of this is the work of the rebels of course in the eyes of the regime and its supporters and someone thinks that there is a place called Syria?

The US will not interfere and will not impose a no fly zone and will not send weapons and will not send troops and will not fight a war it has no strategic interests in and in a region where it has lost influence and credibility.

The Europeans will not lead and will only condemn here and there. The Russians are already preparing the cover up and the veto.

Now I would like to remind all that the discourse of the pro regime trolls does not make sense

Some say it is photoshop some say the missile came from rebel areas some say it is a provocation by the rebels some say that it is not conceivable to have the regime use chemical weapons when the inspectors are there. I say it wanted to use limited chemical weapons in a new offensive in the Ghouta as this would be a last time they could use them when the inspectors are there. This explanation is as plausible as any. If the Russian version is to be considered that the rebels did this to torpedo Geneva 2 this is the weakest argument to date as Geneva 2 is dead and long gone.
If the rebels used chemical weapons and the inspectors confirm that it would mean the end of the support of the rebellion. It is political suicide to do so. Yet the regime would actually use the chemical weapons to pin it on the rebels and the timing is meant to pinning it on the rebels.

As usual Slipper army proves its ineptitude.

Here is the Juan Cole comment from this morning as he is always skeptical of the US and its foreign policies

Syria: Will Killing of Hundreds with Sarin Gas force Obama’s Hand?

Posted on 08/21/2013 by Juan Cole
Syrian sources on the ground and expatriate human rights organizations are alleging Wednesday morning that Syrian aircraft have killed hundreds of people in rebel-held East and West Ghouta and some other areas outside the capital with bombings and poison gas.

The attack comes as international observers are in the country to investigate past alleged use by the regime or rebels of poison gas (mainly sarin) in its attempt to put down a two-year-old insurgency. It is the third alleged use of sarin by the regime against the rebels in Zamalka, Rif Dimashq (pop. 50,000)

The BBC and other news organizations are reporting the allegations while noting that we have no independent observers at the scene who can verify them.

Regarding the plausibility of these reports, the con is that it is not easy to kill a dispersed population with sarin. Chemical weapons are mostly battlefield weapons, used in WWI and the Iran-Iraq War at a military front where troops were massed together. In contrast, when the terrorist cult Om Shinrikyo loosed sarin gas in the Tokyo subway in 1995, they killed 12 people instead of the thousands they were aiming for. This is because the circulating air in the subway dispersed the gas. Likewise, towns are heat pumps throwing warm air into the atmosphere, and this air circulation would typically disperse the gas.

The rebels are alleging that the gas was delivered by fighter-jets in the form of gas-tipped missiles and that they know it is sarin because the victims were nauseous.

The more likely scenario for hundreds of deaths like this would be the firing by helicopter gunships of sarin-tipped missiles at close quarters into markets or schools. Fighter jets fly high and don’t have that accuracy (Syria doesn’t have smart bombs)

The pro is that if hundreds of people are dead for reasons other than shrapnel, then something killed them, and we could be seeing a repeat by the Baath Party in Syria of the Iraqi Baath Party’s genocidal Anfal campaign against Kurdish separatists in 1987-88 toward the end of the Iran-Iraq War.

If the regime did use gas, what are its motives? Iraq used gas in the 1980s because it had far fewer troops than Iran and wanted to level the playing field. Likewise, the Syrian army has shrunk through Sunni desertions to a shadow of its former self and so can’t control the whole country any more. Its recent advances in the Homs area were offset by losses around Aleppo in the north, including the fall of a major military air base. Weakened armies facing a demographically larger foe often resort to unconventional armaments.

Likewise, the regime clearly is seeking to terrify the population into submission. Again, Saddam Hussein tried that with the Kurds and Shiites. Mass killings of restive populations by a regime raise the cost of insurgency, the regime hopes to unacceptably high levels. Could the Baath have done this? This is the regime that slaughtered at least 10,000 at Hama in 1982, so sure.

Did they do it? Hard to tell this morning. But if they did, it will increase pressure on a reluctant Obama to speed up promised shipments of weapons to the rebels. If Damascus is playing it this way, it is clearly calling Obama’s bluff. Lesson to Mr. Obama: don’t bluff and don’t set red lines unless you’re really committted to reacting if they are crossed.

August 21st, 2013, 8:01 pm

 

Ali said:

Mr. Landis,

How did it feel when you saw the news of these barbaric terrorists invading the Alawi villages?

That was just a mini reminder of what’s waiting for minorities if al-ASSAD (God forbid) loses control of his throne. I want you to keep remembering the panic and fear in your wife’s eyes while she was following the news trying to get some information about kidnapped/killed family and friends.

It’s your responsibility to keep reminding Uncle Sam of what will happen if they don’t stop their support to terrorists in Syria.

August 21st, 2013, 8:05 pm

 

Ali said:

Observer,

7ajeh fazlakeh wo akl hawa

When you mention Syria al-ASSAD you better put your hand on your head.

August 21st, 2013, 8:07 pm

 

zoo said:

Observer

“Hard to tell this morning. But if they did, it will increase pressure on a reluctant Obama to speed up promised shipments of weapons to the rebels:”

This fabricated attack is the last attempt to demonize further the Syrian Army. It will fail lamentably like all the others.

The US and the EU will just condemn, shout and threatens but they will do nothing that can change the irreversible collapse of the opposition. Get used to it, the opposition is finished.

August 21st, 2013, 8:09 pm

 

zoo said:

Doesn’t sound like Syria in the early days?

Egypt presidency suggests Obama remarks may ’embolden armed groups’

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/79190/Egypt/Politics-/Egypt-presidency-suggests-Obama-remarks-may-embold.aspx

The Egyptian presidency criticizes US statements on Egypt saying they “may encourage violent armed groups” after US President Barack Obama condemned crackdown on Islamist sit-ins

“The presidency appreciates US concern for developments in Egypt, but it wished it could have clarified matters,” said the statement published by the official MENA news agency.

“Egypt is facing terrorist acts aimed at government institutions and vital installations,” the statement said.

Obama on Thursday said he was cancelling a joint military exercise with Egypt, adding he “strongly condemns” the security forces’ operation that killed more than 300 people in the Cairo protest camps.

August 21st, 2013, 8:12 pm

 

Ziad said:

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http://www.syriatruth.org/???????/????????????????/tabid/94/Article/10365/Default.aspx

August 21st, 2013, 8:16 pm

 

Ali said:

Ziad, What are you expecting from a bunch of thugs and terrorists who have no attachment whatsoever with Syria.

I can guarantee you that the support to al-ASSAd has increased to almost 90% comparing to last year, and soon enough Bashar will ask for a public endorsement (similar to Egypt) from honest Syrians to eradicate all terrorists and their harboring environments.

August 21st, 2013, 8:23 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

If the rebels has chemical weapons they could have used them in reef latakia.
If the rebels has CW,they would have won long time ago.
Assad in using CW today he is sending warning to the people of Damascus, this is major escalation,and if the UN does nothing after verification then:

I believe we must treat Assad thugs with the same way he is treating us, this is the way to counter his CW.the rebels must obtain CW
Those people are murderous and must find out the consequences of their murderous behaviour

August 21st, 2013, 8:39 pm

 

Tara said:

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August 21st, 2013, 9:18 pm

 

zoo said:

Saudi Arabia Blames America for the Turmoil in Egypt

By Bruce Riedel – August 21, 2013

In an unprecedented comment this weekend, Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah blamed American “ignorance” for the crisis in Egypt. Without mentioning America by name, the king blamed Washington’s “interference” in Arab politics for the last two years of turmoil.

In a scathing statement, the king urged Muslims to stand behind the Egyptian Army in fighting terrorism and extremism. Speaking in sorrow, Abdullah blamed outsiders ignorant of Arabism, Islam, and Egypt for senseless interference in the politics of the Arab world’s most populous state. Clearly referring to President Obama’s decision two years ago to push for Hosni Mubarak’s ouster, the king suggested Washington played with fire and has now been burned.

The Saudis were shocked when Obama abandoned Mubarak, a close Saudi ally, in 2011. They saw a dangerous precedent for their own future. Since then the kingdom has been the leader of the counterrevolution in the Arab world, bucking up regimes in Bahrain, Yemen, and Jordan. The Saudis were early supporters of the coup in Cairo and have rallied their Gulf allies, Kuwait and the UAE, to promise $12 billion in aid to the military government that has ousted the Muslim Brotherhood. The UAE issued its own statement this weekend fully backing Abdullah.

Both the UAE and the kingdom see the Brotherhood as a menace. More importantly Abdullah fears that if democratic elections begin to flourish in the Arab world, then sooner rather than later Saudis will want elections and change in the kingdom itself.

The king called for the “ignorant” to come to their senses and stop interfering in Egypt. Criticizing the army crackdown, as Obama has done, only helps the “terrorists,” the king argues.

Saudi Arabia’s super rich neighbor Qatar is also the target of Abdullah’s ire. Qatar promised the Brotherhood as much as $8 billion in aid before the coup and has called for the army to free President Morsi from detention since. Again, without naming Qatar specifically, the king blasts those who “inadvertently” are on the wrong side in Egypt, suggesting Qatar has lost sight of the need for the Gulf monarchies to stand united behind autocracy.

Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/08/21/saudi_arabia_blames_america_for_the_turmoil_in_egypt_119652.html#ixzz2ceoSQWpJ
Follow us: @RCP_Articles on Twitter

August 21st, 2013, 9:30 pm

 

Mick said:

Chemical Weapons. The deus ex machina of the opposition.

So Gen. Dempsey wrote a letter to Congress telling them that without a political strategy, a military strategy against Syria is quite stupid.

This did not sit well with those that want the U.S. military involved.

So in desperation they came up with this chemical attack media blitz. The whole goal is to change the administration’s policy because ‘Obama has to act! Look at how evil Bashar is!’

After the slaughter the opposition did in Latakia, they couldn’t exactly appeal to their kinder/gentler nature, so they went full metal jacket. Kinda like Hariri attacking Hizballah for being involved in Syria when he’s been up to his neck in it since the beginning.

Pretty sad that anyone even believes them.

August 21st, 2013, 9:42 pm

 

Ghufran said:

More on the argument about the use of chemical agents in Ghoutah:

Steve Johnson, editor of the global security magazine CBRNe World and a forensic investigations expert in chemical and biological attacks questioned the timing.
“Conspiracy could tie this up. Is it the opposition doing a false flag attack? Or a double bluff? It could be accidental release of gases due to the large bombardment or even misinterpretation by insurgents of victims suffering blast effects, shock etc.”
On the Open Newsroom initiative, Middle East journalist James Miller noted that:
“[East Ghouta] is an area with strong opposition leanings, and is a major supply route to the front lines in the fighting in east Damascus. Assad’s forces in both Mt Qassioun and in the Mezzeh airport have this area very zeroed in for rocket (typically Grads) and artillery strikes.
Similar videos posted by local sources in surrounding districts re-posted by suggest similar findings.
“Such a large attack can not fail to leave an evidential trail,” Johnson added, “it seems to be a bizarre state tactic.”

I sure hope that the truth comes out and that anybody who used banned weapons is held accountable, this is another reason why this war must come to an end.

August 21st, 2013, 10:37 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Mazen operates in the coastal areas:
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Miqdad denied the rebels are losing in Latakia:
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August 21st, 2013, 10:51 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Supporters of Assad (shabbiha) are dancing and singing in Damascus university because the death in Ghouta

August 21st, 2013, 11:14 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

I have a feeling that hardly-a-massacre , hardly-human was among those celebrating the massacre.

When i mention dog-poop athad i hold my nose. If you don’t like it, no one gives a damn. The dog-poop athad you have been sniffing will remain the butt of jokes even if it killed a million, and it seems on its way to doing that.

I think that like most dog-poop athad addicts, those on this blog have been pumped up with this perceived victory of dog-poop athad. You can read it in the celebratory tone of their talk of slipper army. I have seen these celebratory statements everywhere one of these disgusting pieces of inhumanity regurgitate their poisonous dog-poop athad propaganda.

And the level of spinning is incredible. One would think that these characters must spin dog-poop athad to wear it, as it is no longer enough for them to just sniff it. Let us wait and see.

August 22nd, 2013, 1:45 am

 

Sami said:

From denying the massacre to making jokes over the dead bodies. This is what the typical minhebakji will do. Never will you read a condemnation for such acts, they will automatically revert to hyper spin mode where they first start by denying anything had happened and then making sick and disgusting jokes, and finally blaming everybody in the world for planting a false flag for an invasion by the Zionist Western Imperialists they have been warning everyone about that will never come.

And to attack any lady’s femininity and suggest she get raped is very becoming of the filth known as Assadists. Only this kind of filth would gas civilians, only this kind of filth will find humour in the evilly morbid, only this kind of filth would deny those that died in the most heinous ways the respect to rest in peace.

August 22nd, 2013, 1:45 am

 

don said:

Dempsey Opposes Military Action Against Syria

Commander of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Martin Dempsey, stands in opposition to military action against Syria, according to a letter he sent to Congressman Eliot Engel (D-NY) earlier this week.

In the letter, Dempsey writes,

“Syria today is not about choosing between two sides but rather about choosing one among many sides It is my belief that the side we choose must be ready to promote not only their interests but ours, as well, when the balance shifts in their favor. Today, they are not.”

August 22nd, 2013, 1:59 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

The mass destruction attack started long ago when the poisonous fart called athad family infected Syria.

August 22nd, 2013, 2:16 am

 
 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

History will note that the tradition of celebrating massacres and handing out sweets started with Hizbullah and its dog-poop athad* terrorists.

*note: one would be awed by the level of depravity of nus-lira followers. Not content with the sizable drug trade that supports their terrorist organization, they insist on sniffing dog-poop athad.

August 22nd, 2013, 2:56 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

This is what the criminal-thugs are celebrating

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August 22nd, 2013, 3:57 am

 

ALI said:

Yes indeed the loyal Syrians of Syria al-ASSAD have celebrated next to Baramkeh and the president bridge in Damascus all day long. There were Dabkeh circles and national songs, even people threw flowers, distributed sweets and most importantly fired guns on the air.

These big celebrations were not for the virtual chemical massacre which never happened (except in terrorists allies wet dreams) but actually celebrating the death on 750 terrorists who were gathering near Alabasyen square trying to invade Damascus (yes again).

We will celebrate and we will drink your blood to the last drop.

August 22nd, 2013, 4:03 am

 

Badr said:

“At last report the UN isn’t even going to investigate it.”

Of course they won’t, because your idol is not allowing them to. If not for trying to hide something, then why?

August 22nd, 2013, 4:05 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Sure, we can smell stinky dog-poop athad all the way to here, for the celebrants have been sniffing and eating this shxxt for so long that no one else but those rabid hyenas can celebrate the death of children while calling those innocent victims terrorists.

And I hope Ali keeps at its teenage blood-drinking threats for the lack of abhorrence and objection to its language from all the other dog-poop athad sniffers tells how much alike they all are. Racist sectarian hyenas who think they can rule the people by force for eternity. They will end exactly like the big fart ???? ?????, in the cesspool of history, with cursed souls and contempt and disgust at them and their deeds.

August 22nd, 2013, 4:31 am

 

Alan said:

A senior Israeli official says chemical weapons were used in the attack in Syria that left at least 100 people dead in the eastern suburbs of Damascus.
Yuval Steinitz, the minister for intelligence and strategic affairs, says Israel’s assessment is based on “intelligence estimates.” He did not elaborate.
http://en.rian.ru/world/20130822/182903166/Israeli-Minister-Says-Syria-Used-Chemical-Weapons.html

It is comic !!! The Director of Planning and progression reported to the Yuval Steinitz on the follow-up own plan of use the chemicals In Syria!
The last one out of such information to the press!
The pot exudes including!!!!!!

August 22nd, 2013, 4:34 am

 

omen said:

i want to post this on twitter but need a link. help?

820. Syrians said:

The face book page of the republican guards is admitting there was a chemical attack 3 hours ago next to Damascus
????? ????? ????????
27 minutes ago ·
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?????? ??????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ??????? ??? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ????? ???!!!!
???? ??? ??????? ??? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ??????? .

The death toll so far over 50.
Who else have this weapon other than Assad regime?

August 22nd, 2013, 4:41 am

 
 
 

Alan said:

Perhaps Israel will be a major seller of weapons to the Arabs that they should kill one another!!!
Israel restarts Merkava tank production
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Israel_restarts_Merkava_tank_production_999.html

August 22nd, 2013, 5:10 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Moaz Khatib pursued peaceful, political solution.
Ahmad Asi AlJarba is pursuing military plan, he is talking about forming a national army, several defecting officers has been moved from Turkey to Jordan .
KSA believes it is time to liberate Deraa and move from there toward Damascus,

August 22nd, 2013, 6:20 am

 

Alan said:

The commander Ahmad Asi AlJarba with a national army
http://anna-news.info/sites/default/files/2011/u511/Al-Jarba_0.jpg
KSA believes that Al Jarba is able to move to Damascus and be /udhiyah/!!! LOL

August 22nd, 2013, 6:52 am

 

SimoHurtta said:

925. Hopeful said:

The regime cannot and should not continue. The opposition has failed to produce a viable alternative. Both sides seem to be locked in a vicious war that kills more and more Syrians every day. Enough is enough!

Therefore I call on the UN to intervene immediately. The US and Russia should work out a plan to take over and save the Syrians from the leaders, on both sides, that are causing death and carnage. Syrians lost their right to rule themselves.

People attempting to commit suicide are placed under doctors supervision until they are deemed stable enough to be released. Syria is committing suicide and needs adult supervision.

Well Hopefull have you any idea how many thousands soldiers would needed to stabilize Syria (destroy those numerous militias) and to keep peace. The US Army and Nato are well equipped to destroy other armies and to bomb civil infrastructures. But as Iraq and Afghanistan or even Vietnam showed guerilla war and peace keeping do not fit to them.

“Multinational” forces had 180,000 soldiers in Iraq + countless mercenaries and private support troops. What was the result? In Afghanistan were 115,000 Soviet troops (+55,000 Afghan troops) in the 80’s and now ISAF has 100,000 and Afghan security forces 400,000 men. Result? A military and political disaster – twice.

Anyway keeping Syria in order and erasing the present fighting forces would demand troops of 300,000 to 500,000 soldiers. Also that “peace keeping” would demand so harsh methods, that western armies would have serious difficulties in doing them especially if the acts would become public. Who has such amount of free troops and the money to that very long operation. Bombing a relative large country (= non fly zones) to stone age is “easy” and relative cheap, occupying a large country is expensive and bloody.

It is naive to believe that there exist some “democratic” military force which comes to save the situation. UN troops come only when the war is over and then only operate as a buffer between the hostile sides. UN doesn’t fight. US and Russia do not have the manpower needed to the operation for ruling Syria.

French FM Laurent Fabius is now demanding sending troops to Syria. What troops? France has army with the size 110,000. France could send at the best 10,000 men to Syria. So these opportunist politicians speak only of sending troops without saying whose troops. Demanding is easy and cheap, doing is bloody, expensive and difficult.

August 22nd, 2013, 7:21 am

 

Alan said:

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/obama-saudi1.png
Obama — the Saudi’s whip dog 🙂
He can’t resist his CIA programing.
The blood-lines are chuckling at Obama….the mind-controlled president.

August 22nd, 2013, 7:21 am

 

zoo said:

Syria: step back from military action over gas attack claims, says peer

Chemical weapons must be confirmed by inspectors says former UN deputy secretary-general Lord Malloch-Brown

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/22/syria-chemical-weapons-military-action
….
“Was it an astonishing government attack of extraordinary brutality against civilians or was somebody else responsible? And then move on from there.

“But at the moment this is already morphing into, ‘What next?’and that of course immediately raises the hackles of the west’s opponents on the security council. Without an inspection it’s going to be a series of unproved charges and counter charges between the different sides.”

Medics, opposition fighters and political leaders have put the death toll somewhere between 200 and 1,400 but none of the figures have been independently verified.

August 22nd, 2013, 7:23 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Miss Me Yet? NewZ, Part 2

Obama loves the UN, because they won’t do anything…

Yuval Steinitz, Israeli Minister of Strategic Affairs, told Israel Radio Thursday morning that its intelligence assessments indicated that “chemical weapons were used, and they were not used for the first time.”

He accused the international community of “paying lip service” when it comes to Syria.

“Nothing practical, significant, has been done in the last two years in order to stop the continuing massacre of civilians carried out by the Assad regime,” he said. “I think that the investigation of the United Nations is a joke.”

And the reason the UN won’t do anything is because of the 2 thug states that are permanent members of the UNSC, China and Russia:

The reports prompted international outrage, with a U.N. Security Council briefing called late Wednesday to discuss the situation. However, Russia and China — consistent allies of the Syrian government — reportedly blocked a formal resolution.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/22/world/meast/syria-civil-war/index.html

Here’s what our f-ing president said before we got involved in Libya:

The scale of the slaughter in Libya, Obama argued, required the United States to intervene. “To brush aside America’s responsibility as a leader and—more profoundly—our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are,” Obama declared. “Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different. And as president, I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamas-empty-words_749965.html

http://images.stampwants.com/8rni8.img

August 22nd, 2013, 7:25 am

 

zoo said:

There has been no UN official request for a probe to the team already in Syria. US says the team will “investigate the allegations”

UN fails to order inspection team to launch Syrian nerve gas probe

The UN says it is necessary to clarify the alleged use of chemical weapons, but resisted calls to order a probe by inspectors already in Syria.

As many as 35 countries have called for an urgent UN investigation into the atrocity.

The US says the delegation is prepared to investigate the allegations and said such an action is “consistent with its purpose and mandate.”

August 22nd, 2013, 7:34 am

 

zoo said:

Who has something to hide?
Syrian govt ready to cooperate with UN experts in chemical attack probe – Moscow
Published time: August 22, 2013 11:23

http://rt.com/news/syria-chemical-attack-cooperation-841/

The Syrian government is ready for “maximum” cooperation with UN experts working to clarify the alleged use of chemical weapon in attacks, Russia’s Foreign Ministry says. Syria will provide all materials related to the investigation.

Speaking on Thursday, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich said Moscow hopes that UN experts will conduct “objective investigation of all possible cases of use of chemical weapons on Syrian territory.”

“We hope that the results will clarify the issue and will help to dispel numerous speculations around the alleged use of the Syrian chemical weapons that simultaneously create a positive background for the moves towards the start of the political process of settlement of the Syrian crisis”, he said.

August 22nd, 2013, 7:40 am

 

Tara said:

Another grim detail has been added to the horrors of yesterday in this account, which the Guardian cannot independently verify, by Damascus based activist Leena al-Shami:

We received news that some of the people affected with the lethal substance are losing consciousness for long hours, which makes those around them think they are dead. So far five people were reported to have “come back to life” before they were buried. However, we do not know how many were actually buried alive while they were unconscious.

The main problem is that there is no professional medical help in the areas where the massacre took place, so rescuers are ordinary people who try their best to help the victims, and they fail sometimes to do the required steps to save lives the right way.

From the Guardian

August 22nd, 2013, 7:42 am

 

Alan said:

Syrian war can be stopped after the outbreak of a larger war!!! That is the only way out!It is one of the Jewish magical incantations that are difficult to disassemble.
Pain must transfer to players under and above the table to motivate the need to stop the war.
Each of the move or in the transfer of terrorism contributed to the Syrian territory today in the development of safety and well-being!Can not be for this Static to continue!

August 22nd, 2013, 7:43 am

 

SimoHurtta said:

993. Akbar Palace said:

Miss Me Yet? NewZ, Part 2

Obama loves the UN, because they won’t do anything…

Yuval Steinitz, Israeli Minister of Strategic Affairs, told Israel Radio Thursday morning that its intelligence assessments indicated that “chemical weapons were used, and they were not used for the first time.”

He accused the international community of “paying lip service” when it comes to Syria.

“Nothing practical, significant, has been done in the last two years in order to stop the continuing massacre of civilians carried out by the Assad regime,” he said. “I think that the investigation of the United Nations is a joke.”

Akbar when a Israeli Jewish minister and you are whining about ineffectiveness of UN, that is simply hilarious. How many times has Israel wiped its dirty behind with UN resolutions? How many time has USA used its veto in UNSC to hide Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity?

August 22nd, 2013, 7:45 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

How many times has Israel wiped its dirty behind with UN resolutions?

Sim,

What UN Resolutions are you referring too? Zionism is racism? Fortunately, this UNGA resolution was reversed. And, BTW, UNGA resolutions are never binding. Only very specific UNSC resolutions are binding (depending on the wording).

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE1D6113EF934A25751C1A967958260

It is not Israel’s fault that arab diplomats from over 20 arab states spent all their waking hours and all their energies to defame and dismantle Israel.

Again we are seeing that Israel is the least of the arab world’s problems.

Here’s a list of UN resolutions pertaining to Israel and Palestine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel_and_Palestine

Maybe they’ll start compiling resolutions like these against the despots that still call the shots in the Middle East. I doubt it.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:11 am

 

Alan said:

What is the number of times that the United States blocked UN resolutions against Israel?
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/20/314643/israels-unsc-seat-scenario-another-hoax/

August 22nd, 2013, 8:11 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

For those inhuman addicts to dog-poop athad sniffing who love smilies. Here is a new smily befitting of you and your idol

August 22nd, 2013, 8:21 am

 

Alan said:

Asghar Palace
Do not lie about Russia!You just know that when you need peace then run to Moscow and sitting like a poor man begging for affection Russian!Enough hypocrisy!You are always looking for the war in Washington and for peace in Moscow!Shuffle will not work! You are simply Zionist drum

August 22nd, 2013, 8:24 am

 

omen said:

996. Tara said: We received news that some of the people affected with the lethal substance are losing consciousness for long hours, which makes those around them think they are dead. So far five people were reported to have “come back to life” before they were buried. However, we do not know how many were actually buried alive while they were unconscious.

omg, how many kids did this happen to?

August 22nd, 2013, 8:26 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Anti-smite = anti-syrian ?

It is now clear that anti-smites are proving also to be anti-syrians. Few recognize this, but it is becoming more evident. It should have been noted, as throughout their history of hate, they used arabs and syrians only as argument fodder. This is clear racism and those who are now happy with their anti-semetic “lefties” friends are no less racist than their hateful friends.

Using the Palestinian suffering to justify the whole scale slaughter by the murderous regime of dog-poop athad and to justify the support this regime receives from rogue states like russia and iran is an outright racist deed. No wonder racist sectarians on this blog find solace in their anti-semetic friends.

But what could one expect from those who think of a dog-poop like athad as a hero of anti-imperialism. These atrophied ideals have already been thrown in the garbage dumpsters in most countries, yet they are tolerated out of amusement, The tragedy is that this bemusing group of intellectual thugs is now shrieking and using its ability to make noise to confuse the truth about Syria. Guess what, there will no longer be global-socialists anti-american histrionics festivals in Damascus, you’r left with Terhan, enjoy the mullas’.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:31 am

 

zoo said:

One more of these “unbiased” and absurd calls to the apathetic OIC for “actions”. Al Qaeda fighters are welcome to stay…

http://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2329426&Language=en

Muslim World League (MWL) has called on leaders of the Islamic nation, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), the Arab League, the United Nations, the UN Security Council and human rights organizations in the world to speed up the rescue of the Syrian people.

He reiterated the calls for urgent global Islamic actions to be taken to stop the “crimes of the Syrian regime and deter its allies who have entered the territory of Syria to kill people and get them out of the country.”

August 22nd, 2013, 8:38 am

 

Syrialover said:

The town that never woke up: Inside the devastated Damascus suburb Ain Tarma where 1,300 innocent Syrians were gassed in their beds

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2399704/Syria-chemical-attack-Inside-Damascus-suburb-Ain-Tarma-1-300-gassed-beds.html

August 22nd, 2013, 8:41 am

 

zoo said:

Just like the opposition, Israel is gloating over the murders of hundreds of innocents as they have been sacrificed for the good cause: The West military apparatus must now topple Bashar Al Assad.

JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israel said on Thursday it believed Syrian forces had used chemical weapons in the killing of hundreds of people in the rebel-held suburbs of Damascus, and it accused the world of turning a blind eye to such attacks.

“The world condemns, the world investigates, the world pays lip service,” Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz said on Israel Radio.

“Nothing tangible or significant has been done in the past two years to halt (President Bashar al-) Assad’s incessant massacre of his citizens,” he said.

Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-israel-20130822,0,1740861.story#ixzz2chXv4v1Y

August 22nd, 2013, 8:45 am

 

zoo said:

Is Al Sisi Egyptian’s Ataturk?

Beards, niqab become liability in Egypt after crackdown

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/22/beards-niqab-become-liability-in-egypt-after-crackdown/#ixzz2chYYIbBO

Abdul Salam Badr had no choice but to shave his beard to save himself from becoming a target in Egypt’s crackdown on supporters of ousted Islamist president Mohamed Morsi.

In recent days, overt signs of piety have become all it takes to attract suspicion from security forces at Cairo checkpoints and vigilantes looking to attack Islamists.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:50 am

 

Sami said:

Badr,
And the jackal that wrote that about the UN investigators does not recognize te UN report regarding the Houla Massacre.

To them the UN is nothing but a chep tool they use to slither and spin facts away.
————

Simo,

The only reason to use AP’s religion against him at a time when children are being gassed is certifiably bigoted.

Why don’t you park your rabid racisim for a moment and show some outrage over the innocent that have perished.

Or is attacking AP over his Jewsihness more important fr a rabid sectarian that supports thugs fading innocent people?

Btw are as outraged over Russia using its veto so Assad could continue to slaughter Syrians as you are with the US and its vetoes for Israel? Or does this not register in your SimoHypocroMeter?

August 22nd, 2013, 8:50 am

 

Hopeful said:

# Zoo

Not sure what “conclusion” that I jumped into that you are referring to. I am not jumping into a conclusion, I am stating an opinion. My opinion is that Syrians, in their current state, are not fit to lead themselves. They will keep on killing each other. The brutal, sectarian and corrupt regime has miserably failed. The opposition has no good alternative. Both sides seem to offer no real vision other than the continuation of killing Syrians. Both sides are responsible for the existence of foreign fighters on Syrian soil. The idea of “sovereignty” is now a joke when Hizbullah fighters and Islamic jihadis are roaming around Syria.

Most of you expats are living happily in the west. That means that you prefer Westeran governments to rule your lives than being back in Syria. That was the case even before the revolution.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:52 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Thank you Sami and Syrian Hamster. Really!

I’ve been dealing with Sim for a long time, so I’m used to his “noble” motivations.

The powerful arab bloc at the UN kept the world’s focus on the Palestinians. Where is that focus now?

August 22nd, 2013, 8:58 am

 

Syrialover said:

It’s just not adding up.

If the rebels did this chemical attack on innocent civilians, why aren’t we hearing outrage at the deed from the Assad regime, its propaganda machine and supporters, Russia, Iran etc.

And the ISIS theory fails – the Islamic extremists are just as determined to keep the west out of Syrian affairs as the Assad regime is.

So REVENIRE, ALAN, ZIAD, ZOO, DON, ALI and the usual Bashar defence team – you urgently need to concoct a more rational and credible script. The regime is going to need lot of help explaining away this one.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:01 am

 

zoo said:

#1013 Hopeful

If both the Syrian government and the opposition are not fit to rule the country, why do you say that the removal of the government will solve the problem? In my opinion and most Western analysts, it will be worse.
There is no solution in Syria without a strong army and a strong government. Draw your own conclusions.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:07 am

 

zoo said:

1015. Syrialover

Everybody calls for an investigation , except.. the SNC.

I have not seen any SNC official call by the SNC president for an investigation. There has been scattered individual calls by ex-interim president Sabra and other minor members of the SNC but none of the president Al Jarba.
All the reported calls are made by ‘activists’ and the gang of the FOS (US, Turkey, France, UK, Saudi Arabia, Qatar…,).

Why is Jarba so late and cautious about taking an official stand? Ask yourself the question

August 22nd, 2013, 9:25 am

 

Syrialover said:

Ah HOPEFUL #1010, please try to live up to your name.

You are writing off too many Syrians too quickly.

Syrians are not the Assad regime and foreign jihadist fighters. The Assad regime and foreign jihadist fighters are not Syrians.

There are a lot of capable, strong and determined Syrians opposing the regime with a vision beyond the MB-linked spoilers who caused havoc in the opposition that led so many worthwhile Syrians to back away. Those quality people are still there, waiting and planning for the day their vision will have a chance.

These are Syrians who just want the killing and destruction of Syria to stop so Syrians can reclaim their lives and country and start regrouping and rebuilding.

But that cannot happen as long as killer and burner Bashar Assad continues in his role.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:26 am

 

zoo said:

Syrian artist Youssef Abdelke released: family

August 22, 2013 04:12 PM
The Daily Star

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Aug-22/228276-syrian-artist-youssef-abdelke-released-family.ashx#ixzz2chk2XjEK

August 22nd, 2013, 9:31 am

 

zoo said:

Despite Erdogan’s pressure on its president Ihsanoglu and the Moslem World League calls for condemnation of the Syrian government, the OIC is cautious in not pointing out to a culprit.

OIC Expresses Deep Concern Over Reports Of Chemical Weapons Used Near Damascus

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/ge/newsgeneral.php?id=971979

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 22 (Bernama) — Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) Secretary-General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu has expressed deep concern over reports on the use of chemical weapons in air strikes near the Syrian capital, Damascus, which claimed the lives of hundreds of people.

If these reports were verified, it would constitute a serious escalation of the conflict in Syria as the use of chemical weapons was a grave violation of international humanitarian law, he said in a statement issued by the OIC.

Ihsanoglu urged the Syrian government to allow the international investigation team to access the affected area to probe into these reports.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:35 am

 

Alan said:

Chemical weapons use in Damascus: ‘only a fool can believe it’ – expert
http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_08_21/Chemical-weapons-use-in-Damascus-only-a-fool-can-believe-it-expert-5491/

…/../…

“We, in Syria, were very surprised this morning to hear the news of a chemical weapons attack. Sky News, al-Arabiya, al-Jazeera and other TV channels were sort of playing catch-up, each trying to outdo the others in posting more casualties. First, one TV channel said that 60 people had been killed, then another said that there were more than a hundred deaths, the third put the figure at 500, and then the first channel reported 600, and so on and so forth. These things have happened before. As soon as international experts come to Syria, a massive media attack is launched.
The question is whether the Syrian government is as silly as to use chemical weapons the very moment UN chemical weapon experts arrive. Only a fool can believe it. Each time, 24 hours before UN experts are due to arrive, militants put on Syrian army uniforms and start attacking civilians somewhere. They shout threats at civilians in front of cameras and later post the footage on the Internet. It’s a very naïve trick, but some people believe it or pretend to believe.
As for chemical weapons, in an interview with Sky News a year and a half ago, I told them that, according to our intelligence reports, chemical weapons had been shipped to Turkey from Libya. I asked them to publish what I said in order to prevent those weapons from falling into the hands of terrorists. Six months later, militants used chemical weapons against Syrian civilians.”

August 22nd, 2013, 9:36 am

 

revenire said:

Syrialover no one cares about concocting stories. The absurdity of this latest stunt gets a big fat LOL from me. Assad used chemical weapons while the inspectors were there because? You come up with a good story on that. Richard Engel came up with a whopper – “Assad used them because Damascus was close to falling”. No one believes Engel. No one believes the cannibals.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:40 am

 

zoo said:

1018 Syrialover

“There are a lot of capable, strong and determined Syrians opposing the regime with a vision”… Those quality people are still there, waiting and planning for the day their vision will have a chance.”

After 3 years where are they? If they lack the courage to show themselves now, what kind of leaders will they be?
When they will come out, people would say: where were you when we were suffering?
Cowards with or without a vision never make good leaders.

Keep imagining they exist, if it makes you feel good

August 22nd, 2013, 9:42 am

 

revenire said:

A list of United States UN vetoes (there are probably nearly 100, most of them having to do with the Zionist entity):

http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/geoff/UNresolutions.htm

Ambassador Charles W. Yost cast the first U.S. veto in 1970, regarding a crisis in Rhodesia, and the U.S. cast a lone veto in 1972, to prevent a resolution relating to Israel. Since that time, it has become by far the most frequent user of the veto, mainly on resolutions criticising Israel; since 2002 the Negroponte doctrine has been applied for the use of a veto on resolutions relating to the ongoing Israel-Palestinian conflict. This has been a constant cause of friction between the General Assembly and the Security Council. On 18 February 2011, the Obama administration vetoed resolutions condemning Israeli settlements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_veto_power#Russia.2FSoviet_Union

August 22nd, 2013, 9:43 am

 

revenire said:

What kind of doctor buries people alive? What kind of chemical weapons attack leave no trace on the doctors or staff helping the victims? Leave no side effects?

August 22nd, 2013, 9:45 am

 
 

zoo said:

Action is needed urgently to stop the Islamists carrying more chemical weapons attacks

It seems clear to me that this was a vicious Al Nusra and Cie attack on FSA held areas, because of their continuous struggle for supremacy and their ambition to get to Damascus , especially after the fiasco in Latakia. They are heavily encouraged by Saudi Arabia who declared that Damascus is the new target ( as reported by Majedalkhadooon).
If the Islamists have this capability, I worry they will also make use of it the Kurdish areas and Edlib that they are trying to take away from the FSA’s control and naturally put the blame on the SAA. Idriss as a chief of the FSA must acknowledge this extreme danger before it is too late.

It is time for the UN to force the Geneva conference before more tragedies like occur again.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:55 am

 

Syrialover said:

ZOO #1014

There is not much point in simply calling for an investigation to be carried out by the inspection team on the ground in Syria. Instead Syrian opposition leader Jarba has concentrated on getting UN action, working with the US and EU delegations. Here’s why:

The 20-member U.N. chemical weapons team in Syria only has a mandate to investigate three previous allegations of chemical weapons use. Without a mandate, which needs Syria’s approval, the investigators would not be able to visit the site of the attack. (news reports.

However, Russia has sprung into action to stop any possible action by the UN Security Council.

Read details here:

UN Ignores EU Call for Inspections

http://euobserver.com/foreign/121175

My points in #1012 remain the most interesting ones.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:55 am

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE in #1019 just did a fantastic proof of what I wrote in #1012.

Struggle, wriggle, distraction raves.

Yep, team Bashar’s response fails to convince or add up.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:01 am

 

apple_mini said:

I cannot wait to see the regime to grant UN inspectors access to examine the alleged toxic gas attack.

I also hope they get the best military protection from reliable and neutral party. Because we are almost certain who are the culprits and what kind of atrocity they are capable of: They eat human flesh from their enemy!

I wonder after evidences prove the rebels did the attack, what will be the next?

Salary cut across the board? Denouement from the opposition that whoever directly ordered the attack should be banished from the “revolution”?

Oh, I almost forget foreign Jihads are the ultimate ones who are responsible.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:05 am

 

Hopeful said:

# Syrianlover 1015

Thank you for keeping me honest and in check. You are right, there are many capable Syrians – they just need a chance to show what they can do. They need muscles and protection. The regime will not stop its killing machine, and the foreign Jihadis are flooding in, to the chagrin of the regime.

# Zoo 1013

I have not mentioned the Syrian government. I make a distinction between it and the Syrian regime: Assad and the security mafia around him. The Syrian government is full of honest and decent people.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:06 am

 

Ilya said:

Why would anyone bury people alive? lose hope so quickly?
Its not matter of not having enough doctors,its common sense wait for any medical conclusion before get rid of evidence.
At least give 3 days see what happens,why rush to bury people,if i was relative i would ask for medical investigation, would refuse to bury my relatives just like that, who destroys critical evidence that can be tested by UN chemical inspectors, whole thing just does not make sense.
At least bodies could be tested what kind of substances were used ,when maybe it could be traced on ground see what comes out of the investigation

August 22nd, 2013, 10:09 am

 

omen said:

The face book page of the republican guards is admitting there was a chemical attack 3 hours ago next to Damascus.

1023. Syrian said: https://m.facebook.com/150349801778837/timeline/story?ut=2&hash=-4624279629204275523&wstart=0&wend=1378018799&pagefilter=1&ustart&__user=100003131418721

thanks kindly! have a good day, sir.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:11 am

 

zoo said:

1025. revenire

Bodies were mass buried without getting any sample of their blood for future analysis, the area has been cleaned and desinfected as quickly as possible to leave little for the UN inspectors to find.
By the way the area is very close to Damascus. Anyone could have collected blood sample and send them to the UN inspectors in Damascus. No it seems some samples went to …Turkey for one more of Turkey’s ‘independent’ investigation

August 22nd, 2013, 10:12 am

 

zoo said:

Hopeful

“The Syrian government is full of honest and decent people.”

Yes… and courageous too, as they blindly follow the ‘regime’

Are you serious?

August 22nd, 2013, 10:15 am

 

zoo said:

Syrialover

“Instead Syrian opposition leader Jarba has concentrated on getting UN action, working with the US and EU delegations.”

Jarba has never called for a UN investigation. What kind of leader he is, and what kind of organization the SNC is?
The proud and independent SNC “concentrates” in following the ‘US and EU delegations’ like a poodle in a leash…

What a shame for Syrians to be “represented” by such a pathetic group.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:20 am

 

Syrialover said:

#1027. APPLE-MINI said:

“I cannot wait to see the regime to grant UN inspectors access to examine the alleged toxic gas attack.”

Sorry little apple, you are waiting now, and will probably find yourself just waiting and waiting.

There is no credible reason for the Assad regime and its buddies not to have instantly made moves to enable the inspectors to travel a few kilometres down the road to find out the truth of what happened.

No credible reason. Just incredible facts – like Assad being guilty of the attack and Russia throwing up protective smokescreens and obstacles at the UN to help him (see link in #1025).

August 22nd, 2013, 10:21 am

 

Syrialover said:

#1033. Silly answer ZOO. Jarba has strong allies in the UN and is working with them.

You know, like Bashar does with Russia and Iran.

I feel Assad is making it harder and harder to credibly man his propaganda outposts.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:25 am

 

zoo said:

The evidence of chemical attack seems compelling – but remember – there’s a propaganda war on

Patrick Cockburn

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-evidence-of-chemical-attack-seems-compelling–but-remember–theres-a-propaganda-war-on-8778918.html

The evidence so far for the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian army is second-hand and comes from a biased source

Like the Iraqi opposition to Saddam, who provided most of the evidence of WMDs, the Syrian opposition has every incentive to show the Syrian government deploying chemical weapons in order to trigger foreign intervention. Although the US has gone cold on armed involvement in Syria, President Obama did say a year ago that President Bashar al-Assad’s use of such weapons was “a red line”. The implication is that the US would respond militarily, though just how has never been spelt out.

Outraged denunciations and demands for an investigation by the US and Britain are unlikely to cut much ice because of memories of similar statements about WMDs in Iraq. At this stage of the war in Syria it is also unlikely that the stalemate will be broken by foreign intervention.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:30 am

 

revenire said:

“Jarba has strong allies in the UN”

LOL like?

August 22nd, 2013, 10:38 am

 

zoo said:

#1038 Syrai lover

You seem satisfied with Jarba acting like a parrot, making ridiculous promises of an imminent ‘transitional government’ , a ‘National army’ and not even raising his voice over the alleged massacre because he is counting in his allies, KSA, US, France and UK to do the work. The guy seems to have a low opinion on his abilities to stand on his own.

Well, it seems that you have a very low expectation for a ‘sole representative of the Syrian people’ and a future leader of Syria.

Maybe you are but Syrians won’t be satisfied with a puppet or a parrot as a leader.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:38 am

 

Syrialover said:

Story: “Syrian forces bomb area of alleged chemical attack”

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130822/DA8AVC9G1.html

Comment to APPLE_MINI and ZOO

Here we have Assad’s script for you to digest.

Allow the weapons inspectors into the area that suffered the chemical attack?

Bashar’s response; “Hahahaha. *** off. Not till I’m finished with it.”

August 22nd, 2013, 10:39 am

 

revenire said:

I still can’t get over the burying people alive – children no less. What kind of “doctors” would do that?

August 22nd, 2013, 10:40 am

 

Syrialover said:

ZOO, that stuff you’re going on with about Jarba is plain silly in the reality and context of what is happening.

You guys should be sweating about how to say something credible to deny Assad’s responsibility for the chemical attack.

He’s sure making it hard for you, first not enabling the inspectors to enter the area and now bombing away the evidence.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:45 am

 

zoo said:

Samantha Power, the US ambassador at the UN did not attend the ‘UNSC emergency’ on Syria

While the White House was pretending to be in urgent mode, the new U.S. ambassador didn’t think the meeting was worth her time.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/08/22/where-was-samantha-power/

For the past several years, President Obama has presided over a U.S. policy on Syria that has made the collective support of the international community a condition of American action. Every answer the President gives on the crisis in Syria includes working thru the United Nations. So when the United Nations Security Council called an emergency meeting on Wednesday about the use of chemical weapons inside Syria, it was perplexing that the newly appointed U.S. Ambassador to the UN was nowhere to be found.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:46 am

 

Syrialover said:

# 1040 REVENIRE stop playing around with weak repetitive efforts at distraction.

Time to get to work. Assad needs you to explain it all away on SyriaComment while he keeps the CW attack area out of bounds and destroys the evidence.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:50 am

 

zoo said:

#1044 Syria lover

Keep admiring Jarba, the ‘president’ of a puppet organization claiming to represent you, the same way you’ve admired the other SNC losers for the last three years.
These people fits you very well. You’ve made the right choice. Sleep contented.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:55 am

 

annie said:

http://youtu.be/jpDEXrxALBs

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August 22nd, 2013, 11:10 am

 

Hopeful said:

#1032 Zoo

Let me tell you why people in government follow the regime:

Some fear it
Some believe its conspiracy story
Some fear the alternative
Some are sectarian
Some are benefiting from it
Some are blackmailed by it
Some are professionals and they do their job

But only a few actually follow it because they believe in its leadership and legitimacy.

August 22nd, 2013, 11:15 am

 

don said:

BIBI Natenyahu

1037. revenire said:
“Jarba has strong allies in the UN” .. LOL like?

August 22nd, 2013, 11:16 am

 

don said:

Doctors have nothing to do with it Revenire. Saudi Arabia pay structure for their Death Squads is based on the number of Syrians they kill. Civilians and otherwise.

1040. revenire said:
I still can’t get over the burying people alive – children no less. What kind of “doctors” would do that?

August 22nd, 2013, 11:23 am

 

revenire said:

Syrialover you’re a very strange person. Assad needs me to explain a chemical weapons attack? Here at SC? Do you think we are part of a secret Assad team? Maybe we are all in the SEA?

If you want my opinion about the chemical weapons attack I will be happy to tell you: this is one more attempt to get the United States to directly attack Syria. Who did it? More than likely the usual suspects who have committed suicide bombings etc.

If the West attacks Syria look for several 100,000 to die – maybe more. I imagine the war would spread to Lebanon, Israel and perhaps even Iran.

August 22nd, 2013, 11:35 am

 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

Apple Mini
You reached conclusion based on assumption

What is going on in Egypt proves that peacful movements mostly lose against the military, that is why that arming the syrian revolution was necessary,
It sure looks that there will be two armies in the Syrian revolution, FSA in the north,and there will be the national syrian army NSA in the south, the FSA will be supported by Qatar, the NSA will be supported by KSA

August 22nd, 2013, 12:14 pm

 

Ziad said:

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http://www.mepanorama.com/332322/?????-?????-????????-??-??????-??????/#axzz2ci6zZF1m

August 22nd, 2013, 12:26 pm

 

revenire said:

‘Peaceful movements’ that murder police, soldiers and innocent citizens.

August 22nd, 2013, 12:41 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The minor missile attack against Israel, which hurt nothing, they are an attempt by HA to distract attention from the Ghouta Massacre

August 22nd, 2013, 1:35 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed did Hezbollah claim responsibility? They’re not exactly shy.

August 22nd, 2013, 1:37 pm

 

Observer said:

So from no such thing as a chemical weapons attack we now have an assertion that it is Nusra chemical weapons attack against FSA as they are fighting each other for supermacy.

Meantime, the slipper army is not capable of taking advantage of the infighting amongst the rebels. So it remains a slipper army hiding behind big guns and in garrisons across the country.

When it comes to real fighting it can only do a Grohzny though.

We still get “khilsat” every day in numerous forms on this pathetic blog.

Someone reminds us of the fear and panic of Dr. Landis’ family and others remind us of the celebrations at the death of people in Ghouta in various parts of Damascus.

There is no such thing as Syria or Lebanon or Jordan or Palestine of Iraq. These are mafia states with barbaric regimes in place with warlords and criminals at the helm.

This is a purely sectarian region based on eternal hatred of each other. The US should not intervene or send a single soldier. The nail of a US soldier is more valuable to the US than the 23 million souls in Syria.

I am sorry to remind all there is no coming to the rescue. No one is going to help but for the support the thugs are getting from each other: Sisi to Athad to Murshid to Abdallah II to Maliki to KSA to the rest of these barbarians.

Now the pretzel argument:

US is pro Qaeda in Syria and Dempsey says that their win will not be in our favor.

Israel is aiming to destroy Syria yet there has been peace with them since 73 and they will have to deal with Nusra when the regime falls an organization that is not amenable to deterrence.

KSA is against the MB and pro Sisi and is pro MB and anti Athad.

Russia is a little boy in the back of the class pouting wanting to have a front seat.

This is predictable there is no reason to believe that the thugs of the regime are going to be deterred or stopped.

The slogan is being carried out no doubt about it.

August 22nd, 2013, 1:40 pm

 

Observer said:

I just listened to Sharif Chehadeh admit that the oppositin is responsible for the chemical attack and that the pictures of children dead is a provocation and an attempt to sully the name of Thouria Alathad in the eyes of the international community.

So there is an admission of a chemical attack. Yet they are not allowing for the inspectors to go and investigate.

So now there is no doubt that chemicals were used.

Even the mouthpiece of this regime was actually incapable of putting the story together.

Even Russia is not denying the chemical attacks

August 22nd, 2013, 1:49 pm

 

revenire said:

Yawn. Chemical attack by Assad. That was so last year.

August 22nd, 2013, 1:57 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Russia does not have the veto power in the security council,if chemical weapons were used
All what we need is the proof that chemical weapons were used, it does not matter who used them,The Un can send troops to Syria based on the use of CW,here Russia has no veto power, no one has ,the decision is simple majority

August 22nd, 2013, 2:02 pm

 

revenire said:

Of course Russia (and China) has veto power. The UN can’t, and won’t, send troops to Syria.

You sound crazed.

You cry massacre all the time – going on two years. The US is not going to install your pack of terrorists in power in Damascus. Get used to it. The gambit failed. No one believes the opposition.

August 22nd, 2013, 2:12 pm

 

zoo said:

1049. Hopeful

That’s what I said, the officials who make the Syrian government are either totally loyal to Bashar Al Assad and the Baath party and will stay so, or they are useless cowards that do not deserve to have any leadership role in the future of this country.
As for the “intelligent” and courageous enough members who defected, I guess you think about Tlass and the other ministry whose name is now totally forgotten? or Ryad el Assaad, Khatib, Jarba or Idriss… Oh yes, great national independent personalities, Syrians will love them.
Keep trying…

August 22nd, 2013, 2:12 pm

 

ghufran said:

“KSA believes it is time to liberate Deraa and move from there toward Damascus”
If you ask me I think it is time to liberate KSA from the “S” aal S’oud, I do not care if the country stays as a kingdom or not, but since its inception, KSA only served the interests of its western backers and Wahhabi supporters. KSA should have been a regional super power today and in a position to lead and call the shots, instead it is a backward country ruled by corrupt sheikhs with a lot of money and a bunch of wahhabi thugs who want people to live in the middle ages or beyond. god is punishing Muslims by keeping al-kabaa al-sharifa under the rule of a royal family (with questionable muslim credentials)that is more loyal to the CIA than many americans are and more tolerant of Israel than many israelis, KSA ruling regime (and wahhabi backers) is a disease indeed.

August 22nd, 2013, 2:15 pm

 

zoo said:

1062 Majed

That’s what your message says: Hurray! Youpie! 1300 dead, so the US now will be obliged to send troops to liberate Syria.
My question: Will they liberate Al Raqqa and Edlib from the your friends the Islamists too?

August 22nd, 2013, 2:18 pm

 

zoo said:

#1065 Ghufran

The rotten Saudi expressed clearly that they want to capture Damascus. This has surely encouraged the Islamists to test their chemical weapons on the suburbs first. If they are not stopped, next they’ll hit Damascus.

August 22nd, 2013, 2:22 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Perhaps Assad having presumably recovered from the recent alleged assasination attempt has delivered his response in this chemical attack.

The regimists may know more but don’t give anything away.

August 22nd, 2013, 2:25 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
UN bylaws exclude any country of veto power if chemical weapons has been used, there is special rule for CW , they all agreed to. Neither Russia nor US can veto that, it is simple majority decision.

So who is the crazy one?

August 22nd, 2013, 3:20 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

If zouzou and its dog-poop athad think that we owe them gratitude for having Abdelki released, then the two will have to wait for Eternity. In the same tone, neither is qualified to enter an art house, even one that displays the work of 4 year old children. Art is a human trait, dog-poops and their sniffers aren’t fit for that. They are only fit for arresting and torturing and murdering artists.

August 22nd, 2013, 3:53 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

US and Russia have hidden agreements to share power areas in Asia and North Africa. US administration is looking for a new balance with another super power that is not China, so it no doubt will be Russia. The US is desperate to come back to the strategies of the Bipolar World of 1945-1990.

In the case of Syria, the US has left the “10 years issue” in the hands and under responsability of Russia. As long as nothing happens and harms Israel the US will have no interest in Syria.

And as long as Assad is in power security will be guaranteed to Israel.

So as a conclusion US will leave Syria in the hands of Russia as long as Assad and Iran keep on protecting Israel borders.

August 22nd, 2013, 3:54 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

If you ask me I think it is time to liberate KSA from the “S” aal S’oud,

No one asked you. But nevertheless, be my guest, go there and start your revolutionary movement aiming to depose the monarchs. I’ll even create a facebook page for you.

And zouzou, the less than artful history forger is now trying to tell us that Majed is happy because of the massacre committed by its dog-poop athad and its hyenas. Well tell that to those friends of your dog-poop athad and nus-lira who danced in the streets of Damascus yesterday, and of all places, in the school of law. What a lawless bunch and a miserable forgers of history. Laughable if it wasn’t criminally repugnant.

August 22nd, 2013, 3:57 pm

 

revenire said:

“1067. MAJEDKHALDOUN said:

“Revenir
UN bylaws exclude any country of veto power if chemical weapons has been used, there is special rule for CW , they all agreed to. Neither Russia nor US can veto that, it is simple majority decision.

“So who is the crazy one?”

You are Majed. Why don’t you just link this language from the UN Charter for us? This part about if chemical weapons are used a veto is impossible.

August 22nd, 2013, 4:05 pm

 

revenire said:

Hamster people in Damascus are free to celebrate as they see fit but I’d love to see some video of the celebrations. Surely the opposition has some?

August 22nd, 2013, 4:06 pm

 

revenire said:

Le Figaro saying the foreign invasion of Syria, supervised by Jordanian, Israeli and American commandos, has already begun:

Syrie : l’opération anti-Assad a commencé
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2013/08/22/01003-20130822ARTFIG00438-syrie-l-operation-anti-assad-a-commence.php

August 22nd, 2013, 4:15 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

someone gives the fake human a rotten egg to suck on. This would be so this year for intruding pretenders to humanity and dog-poop sniffers like itself.

August 22nd, 2013, 4:19 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

In Halabjia there is museum conmemorating the chemical massacre of its population in the years of butcher dictator Saddam Hussein.

In the future do not have any doubt that in Kafr Batna or Jobar there will be a museum with testimonials and images explaining what happened when Assad, Iran or Hezb zbala launched his chemical attack.

Maybe HA was to upset with the car bomb in his securty quarter in Beirut and decided to take wild revenge. But today, after the CW (new way used by USA to avoid the words Chemical Weapons) have been used another political and financial high member of Hezb Zbala has been killed in Tripoli, Lebanon.

August 22nd, 2013, 4:20 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
No you are,definitely

August 22nd, 2013, 4:24 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

A couple of Shaykh Yaqoubi statements I decided not to share yesterday however Rev mentioned Jordan (sort of related to one of the statements) so I thought I’ll share them.

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https://www.facebook.com/ShaykhMuhammadAbulhudaAlYaqoubi/posts/365004906963598

GOOGLE TRANSLATION:

Gota 2000 massacre martyr today

Assad regime forces committed in Ghouta Damascus today of the most heinous massacre that claimed the lives of two thousand massacres of the civilian population of men, women and children, and bombed several villages in East Gouta chemical weapons.

The denunciation little thing in the side of the horror of these massacres, but we call on our people to close ranks and continue the fight behind the army free to get rid of this system. The criminality of this system is not an end to it and this underlines the necessity to join the revolution and fighting to bring him down and stop these massacres.

[…]

August 22nd, 2013, 4:28 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

The amount of “secret” information foolish dog-poop sniffers seem to have access to is staggering. Yet, their snuff dog-poop can’t seem to use it of to benefit from it.

zouzou tells us that the saudies are telling their allies to test “their” chemical weapons. Wasn’t the whole thing a fake thing just some hours earlier. These propaganda entities don’t only eat their words, they regurgitate them to eat them again and again, and again, and again, and again……………….

Whoever writes the talking points for the boors should be shot on spot. The regime’s survival hinges on getting rid of these buffoons. But after all, it will not happen since ineptitude is the most significant qualifier after loyal dog-poop athad sniffing and in fact the two traits go leg in leg.

August 22nd, 2013, 4:29 pm

 

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GOOGLE TRANSLATION:

Sheikh Ya’qubi calls Islamic countries to declare war on the system and the formation of a joint army to save Syria
Statement

Sheikh Mohammed Abul Huda al-Yacoubi

Assad regime forces committed in Ghouta Damascus today of the most heinous massacre that claimed the lives of two thousand massacres of the civilian population of men, women and children, and bombed several villages in Damascus Ghouta chemical weapons.

The use of chemical weapons on a large-scale evidence that the system will not stop at any limit even provide him with a nuclear weapon to use it to get rid of people.

The silence of the world and international institutions unable to move effectively makes all silent and droopy partner in the killing of the Syrian people. If the Western countries launched in aid policies serve their interests and do not see their interests threatened to kill the Syrian people, the Islamic countries stems from the principles of brotherhood in religion, it is also near countries such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey to Syria must pay these countries to eliminate this system before the defender and fire missiles into their territory.

[…]

August 22nd, 2013, 4:33 pm

 

revenire said:

Syria chemical-weapons “who benefits this inhuman crime” asks the Holy See

AFP | 22/08/2013 | 8:44 p.m.

The Vatican on Thursday called for great caution before attributing the massacre on the outskirts of Damascus to power of Bashar al-Assad, asking the voice of the UN observer “who really benefits from this inhuman crime” .

“Do not move judgment until they have sufficient evidence,” analyzed Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, Permanent Observer of the Holy See to the United Nations in Geneva, told Vatican Radio.
http://www.lorientlejour.com/article/829130/syrie-armes-chimiques-a-qui-profite-ce-crime-inhumain-sinterroge-le-saint-siege.html#.UhZ1OYpVDvE.twitter

August 22nd, 2013, 4:41 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed why not just link the UN Charter section? BECAUSE YOU CAN’T!

Russia and China will veto any action against Syria.

August 22nd, 2013, 4:42 pm

 

Ali said:

At this time of next year Syria will be enjoying its first direct presidential election.

Although there’s no need for election as the whole nation will vote for al-ASSAD but still it’ll be great to have Dabkeh circles and free food from candidates tents.

2011 al-ASSAD
2012 al-ASSAD
2013 al-ASSAD
2014 al-ASSAD

Full term means FULL term

August 22nd, 2013, 5:09 pm

 

Ali said:

Shabeehaa lil abad la’jl Ayonak Ya ASSAD

August 22nd, 2013, 5:10 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Sure, dog-poop athad wil get 300% of the vote, in addition to the votes of nus-lira gangs, as well as those supporting the demented general auon.

Dog-poop athad should demand 300% of the vote. Anything else will be treason.

Although there are stories disputing ???? responsibility in the matter of giving life to dog-poop athad, i don;t subscribe to these stories for like father like son, a criminal gangster mafioso who has a control of a slipper army and a bunch of haha sniffers. Therefore, i will cheer the 300% of the votes by simply saying:

???? ???? ?? ???? ??? ?? ???? ???????

August 22nd, 2013, 5:26 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrian Hamster just think – you won’t even be able to cast a vote.

🙂

August 22nd, 2013, 5:28 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALI in #1081 shares his crazy comfort dream – his fantasy, delusion, hallucination or childish game of make-believe.

That’s the kindest interpretation of what he’s doing.

The other one is that he is reading from a rubbish official script. One created on the hilarious assumption that those reading it are as stupid as those writing it.

August 22nd, 2013, 5:30 pm

 

Ali said:

To all loyal Syrians to Syria al-ASSAD

Just ignore those empty horns who claim the virtual massacre.

This virtual massacre did not happen and those kids were given sleeping pills or some sort of extra dose of paracetamol to pacify them.

What has really happened is the slaughter of Alawi kids in their own houses, the rape of Alawi women by dirty Gulf terrorists, and the kidnapping of Alawi families.

Christians are being killed by the terrorist

Kurds are being killed and displaced as we speak

Druz are being surrounded by terrorists in Sawida

Palestinians are displaced out of their camps

Ismailis are being targeted everywhere

al-ASSAD is the guardian angel of minorities

August 22nd, 2013, 5:32 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrialover everyone that is pro-Assad here works for Air Force Intelligence and sits with gas masks on.

August 22nd, 2013, 5:35 pm

 

Syrialover said:

For a clearer picture of what happened in Eastern Ghouta, read this

“Another Halabja?”

https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/commentaryanalysis/another-halabja

August 22nd, 2013, 5:38 pm

 

Ali said:

300%

You have siad it as joke but it’s totally possible if you take into account all the extra global votes he will get, simply because al-ASSAD is not the leader of Syrians but more to include all

Believers of Arabisim
Minorities around the globe
Liberals
Lefties
Freedom fighters

Rest assured if Jamal Abdol Naser or Sydna Khadur themselves are around they would have voted for al-ASSAD

August 22nd, 2013, 5:41 pm

 

revenire said:

The Zionist neocon Weiss again SL? You have some sort of crush on him?

I think by now we know Weiss hates Syria and wants someone to attack. He’s only called for an attack like 40,000 times.

August 22nd, 2013, 5:43 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The use of Chemical weapons is a flagrant international crime subject to international humanitarian law and the customary international law , both Russia and China have signed for them and can not veto them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_humanitarian_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1674

August 22nd, 2013, 5:58 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Halabja comparison – makes sense, Bashar is back to the 1980s.

Remember there’s some evidence his daddy Hafez and uncle Rifaat used chemical weapons as part of their massacre project in Hama in 1982?

Remember Bashar’s driving force is to show he can live up to his father’s legacy.

His Iranian and Russian advisers would be delivering pep talks on this, while eager “strong man” Bashar nods his pin head and strokes his failed moustache.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:00 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed where is this UN nonsense you were spouting? Please post it. If you are correct I will leave this place forever. Show me the facts on the veto.

It certainly isn’t what you posted. There is nothing about the right of veto being superseded in that.

You must have been told this by someone as ridiculous as you are.

If any resolution comes up you watch Russia and China veto it.

Donate the money you lost betting me to a relief fund for Syrian children NOT to Nusra.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:02 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE #1090, here’s the challenge again which you never seem up to.

Instead of making silly auto-robot attacks on whoever writes anything that makes you uncomfortable (and always instantly, showing you don’t read the material),PLEASE give us some alternative sources and writers to read.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:05 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Wasn’t it Damascus Rose who said Assad is no longer the sole decision maker? If I’m correct she meant that others, perhaps heads of security/military, can decide course without the involvement of Assad. There’s a breakdown of the chain of command.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:06 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALI, ALI, #1086 and #1089 show you’re losing it.

Come on, back to reality now matter how much it hurts. You have to work out a way to cope emotionally in the Assad-free years to come.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:14 pm

 

Syrialover said:

UZAIR8, it’s well known pinheaded Bashar Assad isn’t the sole decision maker. He relies heavily on his Iranian advisers.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:18 pm

 

Ali said:

Reality check

al-ASSAD was the president of Syria
al-ASSAD is the president of Syria
al-ASSAD will be the president of Syria

August 22nd, 2013, 6:24 pm

 

Ali said:

Uzair8

Piss off!!

You’re not Syrian and you have no say in any Syrian related matter, you better go back to check on your Pakistani briani

August 22nd, 2013, 6:28 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

someone hands the troll a second rotten egg, it seems to enjoy them.

Ali
This is your brain on years of dog-poop athad sniffing. wooops, evaporated.

Well it seems that zouzou has either invented something not int the talking points, or genius ali still hasn’t received the new talking points as ali still calls the massacre virtual. The SC dog-poop athad propgandists’ handler must be off or just plain inept. I bet on the second.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:28 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The use of chemical weapons once documented is subject to IHL and CIL Russia and China already signed approving them it is not subject to UN security vote, so go away

August 22nd, 2013, 6:33 pm

 

Ali said:

He who laughs last, laughs longest

Tell me what have you achieved so far except displacing millions of Syrians, causing the death of hundred of thousands, and importing more terrorists to support your criminal actions of disobeying al-ASSAD?

You have achieved nothing, Zero, nil

We are happy to have you back but first you need to

1- fight and kick all the terrorists back to where they came from
2- admit your mistake
3- seek forgiveness

and then al-ASSAD will bestow his mercy on you.

al-ASSAd is a good father who understands that his kids might go a stray little bit but eventually will come back home to the house of obedience.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:41 pm

 

Ali said:

Actually the massacre has happened and people are fleeing towards the inner suburbs of Damascus, it’s been described like the day of judgment.

The terrorists have killed all these kids to create a panic trying to incriminate the Syrian legitimate regime. They have kidnapped these kids during the last two weeks and poisoned them to death. After that they have hidden the bodies so no autopsy could be performed.

We pray for those who put their souls for their country and we will keep defending Syria till the last standing person.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:48 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

A dog-poop athad sniffer just attacked UZIAR, a potential global voter. I guess it is no longer 300%.

aha…. seems that the armature propagandist sniffer just received the talking points. Pretzel anyone? woohaa it is now kidnapping, and hiding bodies…. zouzou should now retire.

last standing person… what a way for dog-poop athad to survive since animals are not included, only persons.

August 22nd, 2013, 6:48 pm

 

Ali said:

Russia has confirmed the action of killing the kids by the terrorists, the Russians have spotted the the action via their spying satellite and soon will share this evidence.

They have kidnapped these kids from all over Syria in preparation for that moment (the arrival of the inspection team). The security intelligence has intercepted communication amongst the terrorists

“bring more kids”
“we need them alive”
“distribute them between Zamalkeh and Erbeen”

All these mounting evidences yet the terrorists allies still around

August 22nd, 2013, 7:05 pm

 

don said:

Israeli propaganda artist imposter alert!

Ali AKA Hassan AKA Fraud ..

August 22nd, 2013, 7:08 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

I was gonna ask a few days ago if there was anyone in contact with the SNC on here and request to them to recommend me for a special decree Syrian passport (citizenship) just to get Mjabli of my case.

Now with Ali, I ask them to tell the SNC to:

‘HURRY UP!’

August 22nd, 2013, 7:18 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

New post imminent.

Any chance of this image being included near the top?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSTfZjXCYAEQAcV.jpg

August 22nd, 2013, 7:20 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

A global right-wing lefty DONANN, ignorant of arabic, and as smart as any of its previous and banned incarnations, thinks that ali is an imposter. It seems not to recognize the type of explanations very common on the facebook pages of its syrian counterparts dog-poop athad sniffers.

how far has sniffing sunk for an intruder, colonialist minded lefty, to accuse an authentic sniffer like ali of being an imposter? Ali, kick the bums out, they are claiming your dog-poop athad.

August 22nd, 2013, 7:21 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Correct me if I’m wrong however I’m sure previously Ann was quick (just like Don) to accuse Ali of being Isreali imposter, fraud, etc.

Of course this is all coincidental. Just pointing out the amazing coincidence.

August 22nd, 2013, 7:25 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Not a coincidence, it is called circumventing a ban.

Can someone send donann the talking points for the current 5 minutes, it has been so deluded by the other cesspool conspiracy sites its chugs articles from.

August 22nd, 2013, 7:26 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

Why would the Assad regime use chemical weapons — while the UN twenty-man investigation team is in Damascus?” — this seems to be the biggest thought-stopping question for regimists at SC.

The answer, presumably, is that the regime would not be able to hide such an attack. This line assumes that UN investigators would — if such an attack took place — easily be able to do or say something to lay blame on the regime, and thus the regime would be caught in an atrocity.

How plausible are those assumptions behind the question?

In what way and by which means would the UN team be able to pin the blame on one party or another?

It is a fact that the UN team is in Damascus. It is also a fact that the regime has complete control of the team. The UN men have been given permission to visit one named and two secret locations. These locations are the only ones that the government has agreed to be visited.

So, who wonders whether the Syrian government (who has explicitly denied any gas attack) will take advantage of the UN presence, and allow them out of its tight security bubble and to the alleged attack sites in East Ghouta?

I believe that if the government/military had no hand in the atrocities it would be in its own interests to direct the UN team to engage with the rebel units who control those Damascus suburbs. If it ‘knows’ that the attack was not from its own ‘side,’ then it would seem logical that an impartial investigation would prove its own claims.

In which case I suggest that the more intelligent of the Assadist cheerleaders will shortly be calling upon the government of Syria to allow UN men out of regime-held central Damascus.

From the Guardian today:

Syria deaths: powerful asphyxiant in strike was probably sarin, say experts
Specialists say symptoms observed in footage of victims offer strong evidence that nerve agent was used near Damascus

[…]

Chemical weapons specialists, who have studied footage showing the dead and dying victims of the attack, said several symptoms offered strong evidence that a nerve agent was used; it would be the worst such attack anywhere in the world in the past 25 years.

Stefan Mogl, a Swiss chemical weapons expert and former arms inspector, said: “There’s a significant number of videos of children’s faces and of adults who seem to have been exposed, that show typical symptoms of acetylcholinesterase inhibition poisoning, which coincides with a nerve agent.”

[…]

Alastair Hay, another former weapons expert, who investigated the aftermath of the Halabja attack, when up to 5,000 people were gassed in Iraqi Kurdistan by Saddam Hussein’s forces in 1988, said: “I’m struck by the appearance of the victims and the absence of any signs of trauma. This suggests some powerful asphyxiant. Many of the victims have individual signs suggestive of exposure to an organophosphate agent. Nasal and lung secretions are very evident in many of the victims. These are just some of the signs consistent with [such] exposure.”

Mogl said there would be immense interest among regional and western powers in obtaining samples from east Damascus, where the attack took place.

Biological samples had been given to MI6 and to French intelligence members after alleged small-scale chemical attacks earlier in the year. Both governments, along with the US, then declared that sarin had been the agent used.

However, the apparent huge toll of dead and wounded from Wednesday’s attack has raised the stakes, with France threatening to use force in response, and foes of the Assad regime seeming to harden their positions.

“I’m sure the UK and other countries will get samples very quickly and analysed,” said Mogl, warning that a chain of custody had to be guaranteed if smuggled samples were ever to be considered decisive.

A UN team of inspectors is in Damascus intending to investigate three earlier alleged uses of chemical weapons, and 36 countries have written to the UN secretary general requesting immediate access to east Damascus.

A French official said France’s priority was for UN inspectors to get to the scene.

“What is important for us today is to confirm the facts. There is an international expert team that is 15 minutes by car from the place where the attack happened, that team must be able to immediately go there without constraints to take samples. If the Syrian regime has nothing to hide it must let the UN team go there in all independence.”

[…]

Meanwhile, attention was shifting towards the attack missiles. The strike occurred around 2am Friday at a time when the Syrian military had launched an advance into the rebel-held area east of Damascus. The missiles bore similarities to those used in at least two previous attacks where a toxic gas was reported to have been used.

Elliott Higgins, a British-based blogger who collates information on weapons systems in use in Syria, said the rockets’ projectiles shared features in common. He said they had first been used by government forces in Daraya, south-west Damascus, on 4 January this year.

The same missile has also been implicated in two other claimed chemical attacks in Adra, north-east of Damascus on 11 June, when it was described by activists as a “chemical missile”, and later in the same town on 5 August, where again it was linked to a chemical attack.

The slender rockets, which appear to be compatible with both an explosive and a non-conventional pay-load, have a distinctive fin arrangement, including a circular tail piece that appears to have been manufactured to the same specifications in each instance and a bolt hole on the tail in the same place.

August 22nd, 2013, 7:32 pm

 

don said:

Many Syrian Christians say they fear becoming victims of the same kind of targeted anti-Christian violence that resulted from the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. This persecution, known here as the “American solution,” caused a massive exodus — of the 1.5 million Christians who lived in Iraq in 2000, less than 300,000 remain today.

Christians, other minorities in Syria fear ‘ethnic cleansing’

http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/christians-other-minorities-in-syria-fear-ethnic-cleansing-1.236246

Syrian rebels, who are mostly Sunni Muslims, have repeatedly shelled Christian neighborhoods in the city, including Kasaa, with its wide avenues, apartment blocks and leafy parks. The opposition Free Syrian Army claims it strikes only government targets, but constant shelling of the civilian quarter suggests otherwise.

Over the past year, many Christians have fled the neighborhood, moving to other areas of the capital or into neighboring Lebanon. Some who remain say they fear the rebels are aiming to achieve “ethnic cleansing” — the policy of eliminating unwanted ethnic or religious groups by terror that gained international notoriety during the Bosnian war 20 years ago.

“The terrorists are trying to push the Christians out of this area,” said Isam Bahri, the 44-year-old owner of a mechanical shop in the Kasaa district of eastern Damascus that the rebels have been trying to capture. “They are not shooting at the army, they are intentionally aiming for civilians.”

“They have threatened to cut our throats,” said Bahri, a Roman Catholic. “I love my country, but if it means having the terrorists slaughter me, my wife and our two boys, I’d rather escape to Lebanon.”

These ancient Christian communities, some of the oldest in the world, have generally been protected by successive Syrian governments, including Assad’s. But that security was lost when rebel factions began mounting increasingly ferocious attacks on them throughout the country.

On Aug. 17, rebel gunmen shot dead 11 Christians and wounded three more in central Syria, eyewitnesses and human rights activists said. In April, two bishops were abducted in rebel-held areas and an Italian Jesuit priest, Father Paolo Dall’Oglio, went missing last month while on a trip to the rebel-held northeastern city of Raqqa.

When the insurgents occupied the strategic central town of Qusair in 2012, about 7,000 Catholics were forced out and their homes were looted, said Fadia Laham, mother superior of a convent north of Damascus belonging to the Greek Catholic Order of Unity of Antioch.

Another 200,000 Christians have fled the northern city of Aleppo, she said. Many moved to Damascus, Lebanon, or some Western countries where Syria’s Christians tend to integrate easier than Muslims.

“People who are willing to stay with the status quo and who support a secular Syria under Assad’s rule will have problems with the Free Syrian Army, no questions about that,” said Rami Khouri, director of a policy institute at the American University of Beirut.

Laham said the rebels had committed “awful acts” against Christians, including beheadings, rapes and murders of pregnant women.

“The aim of these barbarian acts is to foster sectarian hatreds and so destabilize Syria,” she said, explaining that although the Christians do not support Assad’s government, they do support the Syrian state and the country’s unity.

Almost all of the 50,000 Christians in the conflict-torn city of Homs fled violence and persecution by “fanatics” with links to al-Qaida, the Catholic News Agency reported. And the Catholic charity Aid to the Church in Need said al-Qaida-linked militant groups’ were conducting “ongoing ethnic cleansing” of Christians in Syria’s central region.

“The U.S. has been deceiving us that the death of Osama bin Laden meant the death of al-Qaida,” said Mata el-Khouri, a bishop of the Syrian Orthodox Church. “They are more active now than ever before. As to what they would do to the Christians (if they came to power), the answer is clear.”

August 22nd, 2013, 7:33 pm

 

revenire said:

‘Wild Bill’ I can offer you a free roll of Charmin if you run out. Let me know.

August 22nd, 2013, 7:51 pm

 

don said:

Turkey’s Erdogan: A Smart Man With Jews on the Brain

It’s time to call Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan what he is: a semi-unhinged bigot

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-21/turkey-s-erdogan-a-smart-man-with-jews-on-the-brain.html

Erdogan’s Israel-Bashing Imperils Turkey’s Energy Hub Dreams

“Erdogan’s speech blaming Israel for the coup in Egypt pours cold water on the option of Israel cooperating with Turkey on the gas pipeline,”

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-08-21/erdogan-s-israel-bashing-puts-turkey-energy-hub-dreams-in-peril#p1

Erdogan’s Hate-Jew Fest

The fact that attacks on Christians and their churches were on the rise from the very moment the Muslim Brothers came to power. Increasingly, more Coptic girls were – and still are – kidnapped, raped and forced to convert to Islam. After that horrendous ordeal they were (and again: are) forced to marry a Muslim, who makes sure they will never see their real, Christian family again.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/michael-van-der-galien/erdogans-hate-jew-fest/

August 22nd, 2013, 8:04 pm

 

Ali said:

Old Bill

You’re not Syrian so why don’t you piss off as well and check on your boiled carrots.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:05 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

CHEMICAL ATROCITY – THEORY #2

Let’s recap on theory #1. Assad recovers from assassination attempt and seeks revenge.

Theory #2. The recent rebel offensive on Latakia has angered an officer(s) or even a whole regiment (based in Damascus) who perhaps have families in the region who have been affected. These officers/regiment have lashed out uncontrollably in the form of chemical weapons.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:10 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

CHEMICAL ATROCITY – THEORY #3

Great Risks.

The regime is desperate and vulnerable due to being undermanned and resources stretched to the limit and in the face of rebel advances particularly in Damascus countryside. It decides it needs to significantly hurt the rebel fighters particularly in key locations. The regime decides the presence of UN Inspectors gives it an alibi of sorts. It realises it must take great risks and deems them necessary and thinks it can pull it off.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:17 pm

 

revenire said:

It is stupid to discuss theories. No one but they themselves believes the opposition. Even the US says they have no proof.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:17 pm

 

Ali said:

Uzair8

Do you add too much “theories” to your biryani?

August 22nd, 2013, 8:22 pm

 

Ali said:

Quote of the day

“We’ve taken the country with 7 million people and we’re happy to give it back with 7 million”

August 22nd, 2013, 8:27 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

CHEMICAL ATROCITY – THEORY #4

[Last one for tonight]

Desperate regime is in trouble and sees it’s survival only via an imposed ‘Geneva’ plan as soon as possible. However it realises the US may not be so keen (depending on conditions) or in such a rush.

A chemical massacre, for which responsibility is disputed and not decided definitively any time soon, may be just what is needed to provoke the urgency amongst the powers that be to bang heads together and swiftly set up a Geneva peace conference.

Good bye.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:27 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Why would Syria commit such massacre while UN unvestigating team is there?
The answer is simple, they agreed on visiting three locations only,already designated, this new one is not one of them, so the agreement prohibits visiting this location, they felt free to go on with it

August 22nd, 2013, 8:34 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair one question for you: Do you have any proof of a chemical weapons attack? If so can you post links to definitive proof – not some YouTube video purporting to show a massacre but actual proof?

It seems to me you run ‘whole hog’ with these charges and have no proof. You say these this attack happened because you want to believe it rather than having any proof of the attack.

Thx.

(Same challenge goes for anyone here suggesting there was a chemical weapons attack and remember YouTube videos are not proof of such an attack. I’d love to see one iota of actual proof. Even the USA says they have no proof of such an attack. I guess this “chemical attack/massacre” is a sort of religious belief for many here.)

August 22nd, 2013, 8:34 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

Syrian Official Blames Rebels for Deadly Attack

From AP via ABCnews:

Syria’s deputy prime minister told The Associated Press that foreign fighters and their international backers are to blame for a purported chemical weapons attack near Damascus that the opposition says killed at least 100 people, the deadliest such attack in Syria’s civil war.

Government forces, meanwhile, pummeled the targeted rebel strongholds where the alleged attack occurred with airstrikes and artillery for a second day, violence that was likely to complicate any swift investigation into the mysterious circumstances surrounding the deaths.

[…]

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Thursday the administration was unable to conclusively determine the use of chemical weapons but added “we are focused every minute of every day since these events happened yesterday on doing everything possible within our power to nail down the facts.”

[…]

Jamil said he was personally in favor of a fair, transparent international delegation to investigate the incident in Ghouta. But he said this requires a new agreement between the government and the U.N. and that the conditions for such a delegation would need to be studied.

“We don’t want to be like Iraq, opening our territory up to all sorts of investigators, going through our homes and bedrooms. Syria is a sovereign nation and will preserve its sovereignty,” he told the AP in an interview at the prime minister’s offices in the Damascus district of Kfar Sousseh.

[…]

Jamil said foreign militants carried out the attack with the backing of Israel and supporters in the West in a bid to thwart efforts to hold an international peace conference to end the Syrian bloodshed.

[…]

The main state television news channel aired a documentary-style segment showing the pictures of the children’s bodies lined up in their shrouds. “This is the brutality of the terrorists and those who have destructive plans for Syria,” a voiceover intoned. “They trade in the lives of children, they use chemical weapons.” The segment included an explanation of sarin gas, with diagrams of its effects on the body, though it didn’t directly claim that sarin was used in Wednesday’s attack.

So, there is one answer to the previous question: why would Syrian forces gas eastern Ghouta?

Because it can do so with impunity.

Taking Jamil at his word — and taking it as official policy — the government has no intention of allowing UN inspectors anywhere out of their control. Jamil is ‘personally in favour’ of a fair, transparent interational investigation. But.

But the chances of that are zero.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:42 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Rev.

I read somewhere (YS) that ITV has managed to get the first exclusive images of the incident. I haven’t looked into it.

Actually I haven’t watched any videos and have avoided them deliberately cause I dare not watch them. I doubt I could handle them.

August 22nd, 2013, 8:45 pm

 

ilya said:

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2013/08/21/world/middleeast/20130821syria-10.html?_r=0
How Un is gonna investigate if rebels 1 day after alleged Chemical attack are burying bodies
whats purpose to rush UN team in Damascus if all traces will be destroyed
Does this make sense? ?

August 22nd, 2013, 8:54 pm

 

ilya said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/world/middleeast/american-tells-of-odyssey-as-prisoner-of-syrian-rebels.html?hp&_r=0
American Tells of Odyssey as Prisoner of Syrian Rebels

Matthew Schrier was helpless. An American photographer held in a rebel-controlled prison in the Syrian city of Aleppo, he and a fellow prisoner had been caught trying to gouge a hole in their cell’s wooden door. The captors took his cellmate, he said, beat him, and brought him back with blood-streaked ankles and feet.

Wearing masks, his jailers led him out, sat him down and forced a car tire over his knees. They slid a wooden rod behind his legs, locking the tire in place. Then they rolled him over. Mr. Schrier was face down on a basement floor, he said, legs immobilized, bare feet facing up.

“Give him 115,” one of his captors said in English, as they began whipping his feet with a metal cable.

When the torture ended Mr. Schrier could not walk. His captors, he said, dragged him to his cell. He remembers their parting phrase: “Have you heard of Guantánamo Bay?”

For seven months, Mr. Schrier, 35, was a prisoner in Syria of jihadi fighters opposed to President Bashar al-Assad. Held in bases and prisons run by two Islamist rebel groups, he said, he was robbed, beaten and accused of being an American spy by men who then assumed his identity online.

His captors drained one of his bank accounts. They shopped in his name on eBay. They sent messages from his e-mail account to his mother and his best friend assuring them he was fine, but had extended his trip to do more work.

“I’m doing good man,” read an e-mail to the friend on Feb. 2. “I have access to Internet for like 5 minutes or so, and I will not be able to log in my e-mail for at least the next few weeks.”

August 22nd, 2013, 8:56 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair unfortunately for you, and the entire crowd saying Assad did this, images are not proof of a chemical weapons attack. Actual proof would consist of soil samples, autopsies, etc. examined by an impartial third party (and even those could not assign blame if positive). You don’t have any proof do you?

Therefore, we must ask who a chemical weapons attack would benefit? It benefits the opposition.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:04 pm

 

zoo said:

U.S. uncertain if chemical weapons used in Syria: State Department
(Xinhua) 08:30, August 23, 2013

WASHINGTON, Aug. 22 — The U.S. government said Thursday that it is unable to conclusively determine that chemical weapons were used in Syria, as it is scrambling to gather all possible information on what happened in the war-torn country that reportedly killed hundreds of people.

“At this time, right now, we are unable to conclusively determine CW (chemical weapons) use, but we are focused every minute of every day since these events happened yesterday on doing everything possible within our power to nail down the facts,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told a news briefing.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:08 pm

 

revenire said:

Billy we can’t rely on ABC news for anything except cat up a tree stories and even those have to be checked and double-checked.

The lies the Western media told about Iraqi WMD and the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis murdered by Bush and Blair haunt my dreams.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:09 pm

 

zoo said:

Ban calls for swift probe of chemical weapons use in Syria

http://www.china.org.cn/world/2013-08/23/content_29802161.htm

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon Tthursday called for swift investigation of the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria.

Ban is asking the Syrian Government to allow a team of United Nations experts to investigate the latest allegations regarding the use of chemical weapons and is sending one of his senior officials to Damascus in this regard.

Mr. Ban is requesting that the team, led by Swedish scientist Åke Sellström, be granted permission and access to “swiftly” investigate the incident which occurred on the morning of 21 August 2013.

“A formal request is being sent by the United Nations to the Government of Syria,” the spokesperson added. “He expects to receive a positive response without delay.”

Mr. Ban has instructed the High Representative for Disarmament Affairs, Angela Kane, to travel to Damascus. Before the Government allowed access to the UN team, Ms. Kane consulted with Damascus on the modalities essential for cooperation to ensure the proper, safe and efficient conduct of the mission.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:22 pm

 

zoo said:

The SNC president and the Syrian Observatory remain silent on the eventual use of chemical and on the resulting death toll

“The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, considered the most authoritative group tracking casualties in the conflict, estimated at least 136 dead from an air assault but didn’t address whether chemical weapons appeared to be involved.”

August 23, 2013
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/chemical-attack-in-syria-kills-1300-the-opposition-says-of-the-damascus-regime/story-fni0xs63-1226701659386

Saudi Arabia war cabinet appeared to have spent a lot of money to push lies onto the western media pointing at the Syrian Government without any single independent proof. The media went frenzy with thrown accusations, videos, photos.
Repeated “allegations’ gradually became ‘certainties’

It was a huge PR operation from Saudi Arabia with the purpose of blurring the vision and create a momentum where Western countries would make irreversible commitments.

Well it seems it did not work. After 3 days, there has not been any single report from independent sources. Even the Observatory could not confirm what happened as well as the death toll. Doubts is growing in the media, except for Turkey and Israel, the tone is changing.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:43 pm

 

ilya said:

Zaid Benjamin ?@zaidbenjamin 6m
#BREAKING: The Heads of North [#Aleppo], East [Dier ez-Zor] Midwest [Lattakia], Homs jointly resign from the Syrian National Coalition – St.
SNC is collapsing before our eyes …

August 22nd, 2013, 9:45 pm

 

zoo said:

I believe that if there has been a chemical attack, it was Al Nusra and its allies who did it using toxic gaz provided by Israel that came through Turkey

Galloway: Israel Gave Al Qaeda Chemical Weapons
British lawmaker George Galloway, known for being vehemently anti-Israel, claims Israel is behind the chemical attack in Syria.
8/23/2013
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/171206#.Uha-gjdk34s

British lawmaker George Galloway, known for his vehemently anti-Israel views and for his support for the Hamas terror group, has placed the blame on Israel for Wednesday’s chemical attack in Syria which killed hundreds of civilians.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:45 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

‘Wild Bill’ I can offer you a free roll of Charmin if you run out. Let me know.

troll missed an e. It is Charmine…

August 22nd, 2013, 9:51 pm

 

zoo said:

1137. ilya

I am waiting for the day Jarba will be begging to attend the Geneva Conference after the long waited demise of the comatose SNC and the heavily infected FSA.

August 22nd, 2013, 9:55 pm

 

zoo said:

Expert: Video footage look suspicious

Independent analysts have also expressed doubt about the attack.

http://www.examiner.com/article/u-s-forces-reportedly-enter-syria-commanding-specially-trained-rebels

Weapons and chemical explosives expert Stephen Johnson of the Cranfield Forensic Institute told Euro News that footage of the aftermath of the alleged chemical attack, including people foaming at the mouth, looks suspicious.

“There are, within some of the videos, examples which seem a little hyper-real, and almost as if they’ve been set up. Which is not to say that they are fake but it does cause some concern. Some of the people with foaming, the foam seems to be too white, too pure, and not consistent with the sort of internal injury you might expect to see, which you’d expect to be bloodier or yellower,” Johnson said.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:03 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Bill
What you said in 1125,is what I said in 1123, so we both agree

The regime will not allow insepection of this area till january next year

August 22nd, 2013, 10:10 pm

 

revenire said:

Ilya interesting. I saw similar reports. Looks as if the SNC is oozing into the sewer. Maybe they are scared of the poison gas?

August 22nd, 2013, 10:19 pm

 

Ali said:

Dr. Death, shut your face man you’re bloody clueless of what’s going on.

rest assured your terrorist friends of Nusra are badly hit and on the verge of collapsing.

Will come and defend Nusra now?

August 22nd, 2013, 10:21 pm

 

don said:

Lieberman ‘Promotes’ Erdogan as the New Joseph Goebbels

The US said he was “offensive.” But the piece de resistance came from Avigdor Lieberman, who called him the new Goebbels.

Given Erdogan’s track record of failure, he will not reach the depths of Goebbels, Lieberman notwithstanding.

Erdogan’s brilliantly idiotic views on foreign policy continued to astound everyone except himself.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/lieberman-promotes-erdogan-as-the-new-joseph-goebbels/2013/08/21/

August 22nd, 2013, 10:22 pm

 

Ali said:

You can’t win a battle by writing poem. this is directed to the poet of this forum Mr. Hamster or shall call you with your real name Mr. Subhi Hadid?

How’s Alquds Alrabi going with you? does it feel weird not to have Atwan around?

August 22nd, 2013, 10:24 pm

 

ilya said:


Joshua Landis schools Pro zionist neocon on Syria 🙂
Rev,Zoo
I don’t think they are scared, as much as they are clueless. Like MB have no idea what hell are they doing,they cant find consensus among themselves.
How are they going to rule country what a mess its going to be if they win,you cant come out out of nowhere without proper education and skills to lead people,rebuild country,this mess just showing their incompetence.
They gonna end up like MB in Egypt locked up in jail one day.

August 22nd, 2013, 10:26 pm

 

DAMASCUSROSE said:

It’s truly sickening to read some of the responses of the regime apologists here, there were chemical weapons used and there were innocent children who died of suffocation, show some sense of decency and respect for their death. What a horrible way to die, where’s you sense of humanity??? The worst crimes ever committed against Syrians were by other Syrians, something we should be all proud of, never in our long history have we committed such heinous crimes, how can we ever live with ourselves?

BTW, no one is celebrating in Damascus, except few real psychopaths, everyone I know, pro and against, is sickened to the core and in a total state of shock and sadness.

Those who try to plant doubt in the minds of others whether this took place and why the regime would do something so stupid while the UN inspectors are in town, should know there are elements in this regime that are almost uncontrollable and have been lobbying for a scorched earth policy (they really mean it ????? ????? ) and greater destruction and killings, they’ve been held back at times but they will continue to commit monstrosities every time they get the chance. They don’t use logic nor reason, they care less about human life, international opinion or consequences, they blame the bureaucrats in Damascus for this mess taking so long. May God help us if they gain the upper hand.

Not holding my breath for any action from the UN or the rest of the world, they’ve given up on us. They don’t really care about ordinary Syrian lives. I’m afraid there will be many darker days ahead. Keep watching world, keep watching…

August 22nd, 2013, 10:47 pm

 

don said:

Syria blames rebels for alleged chemical attack

Foreign fighters are using ‘the most extreme weapons,’ official says

Foreign fighters and their international backers are to blame for a purported chemical weapons attack near Damascus that the opposition says killed at least 100 people, Syria’s deputy prime minister gA told The Associated Press.

Deputy Prime Minister Qadri Jamil said foreign militants carried out the attack with the backing of Israel and supporters in the West in a bid to thwart efforts to hold an international peace conference to end the Syrian bloodshed.

“We can only say that extremist forces carried it out, linked to foreign forces, since no Syrian can do this against another Syrian,” he said. “At the head of these forces are those who have promoted vengeance and hatred and spoke of ousting the regime by force over the past two years.”

Jamil said he was personally in favour of a fair, transparent international investigation of the incident in Ghouta. But he said this requires a new agreement between the government and the UN, and that the conditions for such a delegation would need to be studied.

“We don’t want to be like Iraq, opening our territory up to all sorts of investigators, going through our homes and bedrooms. Syria is a sovereign nation and will preserve its sovereignty,” he told the AP in an interview at the prime minister’s offices in the Damascus district of Kfar Sousseh.

Jamil estimated there were now 30,000 to 40,000 foreign fighters on Syrian soil from 70 countries.

“There are forces that have lost their minds and are using the most extreme weapons in their hands to prevent the international conference. They’re in a state of insanity, they have lost their senses. It’s a political attack as much as it’s a chemical attack,” he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/08/22/syria-chemical-attack-accusations-violence.html

August 22nd, 2013, 11:12 pm

 

revenire said:

Rose people die in a war. If the West attacks expect at least 200,000 dead in the first few months – many will be children.

August 22nd, 2013, 11:18 pm

 

sf94123 said:

Some sort of chemical agent was used to create panic. Analyzing the “aftermath” or the alleged “crime Scene” photos and videos reveal a different story. Victims “sex ratio” DOESNOT make sense – Proportion of dead males to females and children is way –way off and doesn’t match available DATA from the Gouta’s population mix– too many dead children!! Did the attack happen at a school? How come there are no dead women in the photos? Give it up! Go back and leave Syrians alone! It is enough death and distraction!

August 22nd, 2013, 11:24 pm

 

Ali said:

Nobody could/would attack Syria al-ASSAD

August 22nd, 2013, 11:26 pm

 

Ali said:

sf94123

You’re smart.

Now Subhi Hadid or Dr. death will come and accuse you of working for Mukhabart

August 22nd, 2013, 11:33 pm

 

revenire said:

SOHR is about 1200 corpses short. This won’t go over well with the pro-cannibal side here.

SOHR: “More than 170 people (40 rebels, 130 civilians) killed by the regime assault on al-Ghouta yesterday.”

August 23rd, 2013, 12:07 am

 

sf94123 said:

And DAMASCUSROSE wonders WHY no one is rushing to help! I can tell you why! Rebels cannot be trusted- They are infested with terrorists and jihadists – Besides, you are making Islam looks so bad! We like it that way- keep it up- don’t worry- you will enjoy yourself in haven soon.

August 23rd, 2013, 12:19 am

 

revenire said:

Can’t wait to hear all the big “massacre” people explain away the SOHR’s numbers.

They said over 1000! Turns out it is under 200.

August 23rd, 2013, 12:23 am

 

Ghufran said:

???? – ??? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? ????? ?????. ??? ?????? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ????????? ??????? ???? ?? ????? ??????????. ??? ??? ?????? ?? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ???????.
Yousef is one of many who were arrested for no reason other than asking for a political change that allows Syrians to have a voice in who governs them and how. Assad’s thugs in the mukhabarat have a state within a state, they do not need permission to arrest but they require bribes or instructions from regime heads to release innocent people.
The idea from the beginning was to appoint a figure head from the family to protect political and financial interests of the mafia that bankrupted Syria since the 1970s and that is why Bashar was crowned president in 2000. Many people knew he was not qualified and many more understood that his appointment was a violation of every rule in the political world unless you consider north Korea as a model to follow. Notice how the regime pardoned hundreds of criminals and thugs but kept educated and peaceful dissidents in prison , the most known is an alawi doctor named AA Khayyer. The rebellion failed in the public eye because it took arms , used terrorism and allowed Islamist thugs to dominate this uprising, now Syrians feel that they have nowhere to go and many prefer Assad thugs over nusra thugs.
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August 23rd, 2013, 12:52 am

 

Ghufran said:

Le Figaro has a theory about Ghoutah attack:

INFO LE FIGARO – Selon nos informations, des opposants au régime, encadrés par des commandos jordaniens, israéliens et américains, progressent vers Damas depuis mi-août. Cette offensive pourrait expliquer le possible recours du président syrien à
S’il est encore trop tôt pour pouvoir écarter catégoriquement la thèse défendue par Damas et Moscou, qui rejettent la responsabilité du massacre sur l’opposition syrienne, il est d’ores et déjà possible d’apporter des réponses à une troublante question. Quel intérêt aurait eu Bachar el-Assad à lancer une attaque non conventionnelle au moment précis où il venait d’autoriser des inspecteurs de l’ONU – après les avoir bloqués pendant plusieurs mois – à enquêter sur l’utilisation d’armes…
( the newspaper suggests that an incursion from Jordan was behind the attack , it added that Assad may say that his troops were defending Syria from a foreign attack, the theory is intriguing but hard to believe)

August 23rd, 2013, 1:36 am

 

Hopeful said:

#1145 Damascusrose

Good words. The lack of empathy on the forum by the regime supporters is shocking and shameful. No matter how you look at it, the regime is eithe extremely criminal or utterly incompetent. I personally know regime supporters who have been calling for gasing the rebel areas for a while, so I won’t be surprised at all if the regime did it.

As for the people who say that the rebels did it, it is amazing that this claim does not get them thinking that, after 2.5 years of dragging the country into a war by choosing to pursue a scorched-land policy, they ended up with rebels who acquire and use chemical weapons under their noses. Wouldn’t that warrant a pause and a reflection? And where is the president when hundreds of his citizens die from a chemical attack on them by terrorists? Why isn’t he speaking to them?

August 23rd, 2013, 3:02 am

 

Alan said:

US Sponsored Rebels in Syria have been Defeated. Government Forces are Restoring Peace throughout the Country.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-rebels-in-syria-have-been-defeated-government-forces-are-restoring-peace-throughout-the-country/5346632

Defeated on the battlefront, militants have wreaked their anger on defenseless people.
The world was shocked by reports of numerous massacres in Jisr Al-Shugur, province of Idleb, village Hatla in Deir Al-Zor, in the region of Khan al-Assal in Halab. The shooting of 450 women, children and elderly people from the local Kurdish community of Tal Abyad in Rakka has shattered all the doubts: events in Syria are not characteristic of a civil war but the war by Syrian government forces against Western supported international terrorism and extremism.

It will be difficult for the American leaders to explain to the international community and the voters the way the US has become an ally of Al-Qaida. The cynicism of the West was revealed when the CIA appointed General John Right, who had been fighting terrorism in Afghanistan, responsible for US operations in Syria, so that now he is in charge of training Syrian terrorists in Jordan.

August 23rd, 2013, 4:31 am

 

apple_mini said:

NY times has an article reporting US administration is debating what military actions they would take to respond the alleged CW attack by the regime.

Quote “and little doubt that anyone but Mr. Assad’s forces would have used them.”

The article further goes with evidence provided from the rebels that four rockets equipped with CW warheads fired from two locations. The rebels also claims the CW attack was intended to “soften up” the rebels’ position before conventional weapons were used to launch the assault in order to reclaim east Ghouta.

Seems like very convincing and now monster regime is facing inevitable punishment.

Politically we know the regime has too many holes in it ruling and exerting authority. Otherwise we would not have been ended up in current situation.

If according to the rebels’ account, SAA wanted to soften up the rebels by only four CW rockets only enough to kill forty rebels before launching extensive air strikes and barrage of heavy artillery.

What kind of stupid military operation is that? Those four CW rockets did not serve any military purpose and SAA did not make any military gain from using those. If we had heard the whole east Ghouta was attacked by CW and most the militants including civilians had been killed during the attack, then we would have strong suspension of the regime. Although it sounds barbaric and brutal, at least it makes sense in military viewpoint: the WMD was used to eliminate the combatants in the specific area.

By firing only four CW rockets, not only SAA failed to achieve any military goal, they also provoked outages among those international adversaries who will inevitably intervene militarily.

That is really an act of suicide by cop.

I would be really surprised by the stupidity of SAA if I followed the account by the rebels and opposition. After almost 3 years of fighting, the rebels backed by billions of dollars and massive military supports from the west and GCC, with help of tens of thousands of vicious Islamic militants, they are still losing to “impotent” SAA.

Is that the way the rebels claiming they are the most impotent militants ever exist in ME?

August 23rd, 2013, 5:30 am

 

apple_mini said:

Step Back

Brand New Petition to be Sent to Every Journalist Reporting on SYRIA to Take a PLEDGE to End the Parroting of Pro-War Politicians, As Happened So Disastrously re Iraq 10 Years Ago

https://step-back.org

Maybe those amateur and couch journalists here and everywhere else can also join in the pledge?

August 23rd, 2013, 5:38 am

 
 

zoo said:

The Syrian army has launched fresh attacks against foreign-backed militants near the capital, Damascus, as it continues to make gains on the ground.

http://www.military-world.net/Syria/5207.html

The Syrian army on Thursday targeted militant strongholds in al-Mu’addamiyah Dariya, al-Qaboun, Khan al-Sheikh, and al-Husseiniya.

Clashes were also reported to have erupted between Syrian army forces and militants in the districts of Zamalka and al-Sharidi.

No casualties have been reported so far.

On August 21, Syrian sources said army forces had attacked militants near Damascus.

Following the incident, Syrian militants and opposition activists accused the Syrian army of using chemical weapons in the attack.

August 23rd, 2013, 7:05 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

If you want to get confused by illogical discussion, and want to waste your time go read Mini Apple comment or Revenir comment
But again all pro Vampire (pro Assad) comment are like that, embarassing to SC

August 23rd, 2013, 7:13 am

 

Tara said:

No one in the international community doubts that the regime used chemical weapons against its own people.  And when they announce they are not sure, they are just pretending to save face that Bashar has again and again crossed the redline.  Syria must be cleansed from Assad and his supporters not only based on the responsibility to protect but also to achieve the world peace.  If Assad did not hesitate to use CW against his people, and kill 1300, he would definitely use it against anyone, most importantly Israel.  Swift actions need to be taken place to take him down and to destroy his reserve of chemical weapons.

Syria: chemical weapons with impunity
The options for response are all bad, and it is doubtful whether airstrikes would establish deterrence

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/22/syria-chemical-weapons


Nor is there much doubt about who committed the atrocity. The Syrian government acknowledged it had launched a major offensive in the area and they are the only combatant with the capability to use chemical weapons on this scale

That leaves the question why. In defending their client state from the accusation, Russia called the attack a pre-planned provocation, occurring as it did within only five miles of the hotel where UN inspectors had arrived to investigate previous alleged incidents. There are four possible causes: a Syrian commander acting on his own, which is unlikely; an order from Mr Assad in the knowledge that Mr Obama would not respond; or a decision to up the firepower against the rebels who, despite losses in Qusair or Homs, still control about half of the country. The fourth possible cause is that this was an attack which went wrong, killing many more than intended.

August 23rd, 2013, 7:14 am

 

Alan said:

??? ??????? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? “???? ?? ???????? ?????????? ????? ?? ??? ???????? ????????”. ???? ?????? ?? ?? ?????? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ???????? ???? “???? ?????”? ??????? ?? ??????? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????? ???? ?????” ?? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ??????? ???? ???? ?? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ?????? ???????? ???????”. ??? ????? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ??????? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????.

August 23rd, 2013, 7:23 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Ban Ki Moon said

“Any use of chemical weapons anywhere, by anybody, under any circumstances, would violate international law. Such a crime against humanity should result in serious consequences for the perpetrator.”

August 23rd, 2013, 7:29 am

 

zoo said:

Israel sudden drum-beating can be explained by two factors.

First they see the ruthless Islamists dangerously growing at their borders and second they probably are suspecting that the chemical weapons attack was done by the Islamists. Therefore they are in state of panic as this weapon in the hands of Islamists pose the greatest danger to Israel already scrambling to defend two fronts with their obviously inefficient ‘domes”. ( out of 4 rockets send by ‘islamists’ in Lebanon, only one was caught by the dome)

Israel urgently want a military intervention not to topple Bashar al Assad but to topple the Islamists on their borders and get hold of the chemical weapons. .
Therefore they are actively participating with the Jordanians and the Saudis in a media campaign to force the US military intervention.

August 23rd, 2013, 7:33 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

“Schooling” on Syria and Bigotry

Joshua Landis schools Pro zionist neocon on Syria

Ilya,

Thanks for the youtube video showing Joshua Landis and Robert Zarate. I have to disagree with you though, I don’t think Joshua Landis “schooled” anyone. In fact, if Prfessor Josh schooled anyone, he schooled us on how to look the other way when large numbers of people are suffering.

Professor Josh’s main thrust was this, “Is the intervention going to make Syria better?” He used the US CIvil War as an example, because 600,000 Americans died in that war. Professor Josh said that if Great Britain and France came to America’s aid during the civil war, would it have made America better. The conclusion was, no, it wouldn’t.

So our resident scholar, Professor Josh, after years of supporting the self-appointed Alawi family, known for their refusal to grant basic human rights to their citizens as well as supporting radical Islamists is suddenly concerned about the welfare of Syrians. I am, perhaps, a little skeptical.

Robert Zarate recognizes that something has to be done, and yes, something to slow down the carnage, NOW. I agree with him. The US could conduct a no-fly zone as well as destroy regime military targets with little risk. The point is, once the Syrian military is out of the way and crippled, Syrians will be fighting less robust forces as the Islamic militants turn against the secular opposition.

1115. don said:

Turkey’s Erdogan: A Smart Man With Jews on the Brain

It’s time to call Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan what he is: a semi-unhinged bigot

Don,

I didn’t know you were a look-out for anti-semites and bigots! Thank you! If you’re really that interested in this subject, check out MEMRI. You’ll find bigots in the ME not only come from Turkey, but also from every other country in the ME including Hamas, Hezbollah, the PA, Egypt and Baathist Syria. There is no shortage of material.

http://www.thememriblog.org/antisemitism

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/207/0/7283.htm

August 23rd, 2013, 7:41 am

 

zoo said:

Saudi plays poker with Syrians dead: 300 or 1300 killed by the Syrian government with chemical weapons?

Syria gas attack story has whiff of Saudi war propaganda
http://rt.com/op-edge/syria-gas-attack-chemical-propaganda-796/

William Engdahl is an award-winning geopolitical analyst and strategic risk consultant whose internationally best-selling books have been translated into thirteen foreign languages.

The reports of massive chemical attacks in Syria might become the “red line” for the US for active military intervention. But even rudimentary analysis of the story shows it is too early to believe its credibility.

The Middle Eastern newspaper, Al Arabiya, reports that “At least 1,300 people have been killed in a nerve gas attack on Syria’s Ghouta region, leading opposition figure George Sabra said on Wednesday…” The paper went on to claim that the Government of President Bashar al Assad was responsible for the attacks. If confirmed it could be the “red line” that US President Obama previously stated would tip the US into active military intervention in Syria, using No Fly Zones and active military steps to depose Assad.

That in turn could erupt into a conflagration across the Middle East and a Super Power confrontation with Russia and China and Iran on one side, and the USA, UK, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar on the opposite side. Not a happy prospect for world peace at all.

Therefore the story is worth analyzing carefully. When we do, several things jump out as suspicious. First the newspaper breaking the story was Al Arabiya, initially saying that at least 500 people have been killed, according to activists. From there it got picked up by major international media. Making the story more fishy by the minute were reports from different media of the alleged number of dead that changed by the minute – 635 then to 800 by USA Today and 1,300 by Rupert Murdoch’s SkyNews.

Finally, the region reported to be the site of the poison gas attack by Assad forces, Eastern Ghouta, was re-secured from the Al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra jihadist terrorists, by Government troops in May as part of a major series of rollback victories against the insurgent forces and is not currently a scene of any major resistance to Assad forces.

Pending confirmation by genuinely independent judges of the latest allegations of Al Arabiya, we are well-advised to leave the reports in the category of war propaganda, in league with others such as the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964.

August 23rd, 2013, 7:47 am

 

Observer said:

Now there is no doubt that chemical weapons were used. The difference between the two versions is that the Russians in the face of the pictures of dead bodies without injuries are claiming that the rockets came from the rebels and that the satellite pictures show that evidence.

Well, first I do not read any regret on the part of the pro regime people or a lament on the loss of innocents especially children.

Second, if a chemical attack is the work of the opposition it is clear that the Slipper Army is not capable of protecting the population.

Third, not a single official asked for a truce to allow for the experts on the ground to come through and investigate.

Fourth, no campaign to distribute gas masks to the population of Damascus has been initiated

Fifth, no request from the Syrian regime for help in protecting the capital from any power or to have UN observers or peacekeepers or anything.

Sixth, the story that some pro regime outlets are claiming that this chemical attack was actually done by the Slipper Army to thwart an attack led by US/Israeli/Jordanian let rebels on Damascus. If this is so as Le Figaro is saying it is again an admission of the use of chemical weapons. Then why not say that this was to defend against foreign aggression and claim victory over the invaders AND apologize for the death of innocents as they are “collateral deaths”?

This was never a state was always a mafia and is a criminal militia

No one is coming to the rescue; the slaughter will continue and the war will continue.

So why not break it up peacefully. We cannot live together, there is no compatibility in this cycle of history that we are in.

Today I went through the pro regime outlets and there is no victory declarations anywhere.

Meanwhile the military coup in Bahrain is still protested just as it is in Egypt. Both made in KSA and both bound to fail.

KSA=mirror image of Thouria Alathad.

August 23rd, 2013, 7:49 am

 
 

Alan said:

1168. MAJED
Thump up !!!

August 23rd, 2013, 7:51 am

 

Alan said:

Chemical attack: ‘rough work’ of Syrian opposition

On the whole, some Western experts doubt that it is sarin that is at issue. And, moreover, they call to treat with caution the footage posted on the Internet and allegedly made immediately after the attack.

“They show that people rendering first aid to the victims are not wearing protective clothing,” Jean Pascal Zanders, an expert on chemical and biological weapons at the European Union Institute for Security Studies wrote in his blog. “It cannot be so, as far as sarin is concerned. There would be many postprimary poisonings without protective clothing.” – Zanders is sure.

http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_08_22/Chemical-attack-rough-work-of-Syrian-opposition-4241/

August 23rd, 2013, 7:57 am

 

zoo said:

EU says Syria needs urgent political solution
23 August 2013, 13:51 CET

(BRUSSELS) – The increasing loss of life in Syria and possible use of chemical weapons makes it urgent that the international community find a political solution to the conflict, the European Union said Friday.

EU foreign affairs head Catherine Ashton said “the international community must now act with a sense of urgency and responsibility” to end the violence.

Ashton said she fully supported the UN call for “a thorough, impartial and prompt investigation” into an alleged chemical attack on Wednesday which Syrian opposition groups claimed left hundreds of people dead.

“Without further delay we must move forward on a diplomatic process along the lines of the initiative for a Geneva II conference” as agreed by Moscow and Washington, she said in a statement.

August 23rd, 2013, 7:59 am

 

Alan said:

On Wednesday – just hours after the massacre of hundreds of Syrians with chemical weapons – Israeli Minister of Military Affairs Moshe Yaalon claimed he knew who did it: The Syrian government.

Other world leaders, including US President Barack Obama, did not rush to judgment. Instead, they called for a United Nations investigation. Many experts, including the BBC’s Frank Gardner, former UN weapons inspector Rolf Ekeus, and Swedish chemical weapons expert, Ake Sellstrom, ridiculed or cast doubt on the notion that Syrian President Assad would launch a chemical attack at the exact moment weapons inspectors arrived in Syria. The Russian Foreign Ministry came right out and called the chemical attack “a provocation planned in advance.”

http://presstv.com/detail/2013/08/22/319918/chem-mayhem-another-israel-falseflag/

August 23rd, 2013, 8:00 am

 

zoo said:

Alan

It confirms that Israel is extremely worried about Islamists and chemical weapons let loose. They are pushing the West to commit military protection on their borders with Syria under any pretext.

August 23rd, 2013, 8:13 am

 

Alan said:

The intentions towards a regional war,floating to the surface:

Israeli Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz: Iran Couldn’t Do Much “If We Attack Them”
Says Iran Could at Best Launch a Few Missiles Back
“I think Iran’s possibilities to retaliate are very limited,”
“But I don’t think it would be more than that – very limited damage.”

At the same time, arguing that Iran is so weak and such a non-threat that it can’t even theoretically retaliate makes Israel’s attempts to portray them as a threat to the entire planet even more nonsensical than it already was.

http://news.antiwar.com/2013/08/21/israeli-security-official-iran-couldnt-do-much-if-we-attack-them/

August 23rd, 2013, 8:17 am

 

Akbar Palace said:

Observer,

If the Syrian government refuses to give access to the inspectors, what does that tell you? q:o|

August 23rd, 2013, 8:27 am

 

Alan said:

Zoo
All strangers soldiers who entered Syria died!I do not think that in the West there is human beings like death for itself!

Each of these Islamist are the soldiers under the Israeli control, when it will be necessary!
Israeli and American inspectors are trained them in Kosovo, in Jordan, in Afghan. Pakistan and Turkey. After wounding provide them a medical care in Israeli hospitals!

The Israelis are pushing the West to commit military protection on
Lebanon and Iran,for a long time as you know!

August 23rd, 2013, 8:49 am

 

revenire said:

170 not 1700.

“Sharmine Narwani
@snarwani
Spoke w/ SOHR today – has names of 109 victims in east & 61 in west of Ghouta. Rami: “I don’t know where George Sabra gets his nmbrs” #Syria”

August 23rd, 2013, 8:55 am

 

Tara said:

Sharmine Narwani is a sectarian thug. I bet she is Shiaa Persian and religiously motivated. It doesn’t matter if it is 1300 or 300 died. What matter is that chemical weapons were used by the regime.

And it can be used again, not only against Syrians but also against neighbors. The regime and HA must be annihilated.

August 23rd, 2013, 9:24 am

 

revenire said:

Tara it came from the SOHR not Narwani:

“We have been able to document so far the death of 136 people as a result of the regime bombardment on parts of Mou’adamiyat al-Sham city, western Ghouta, and the towns and cities of the eastern Ghouta. The dead include dozens of women and children.”

Syrian Observatory for Human Rights
https://www.facebook.com/syriaohr

Do you have any proof of a chemical weapons attack? If so please share it with us.

Many would say it is you who is the sectarian thug Tara. I would not go that far but caution you.

August 23rd, 2013, 9:39 am

 

revenire said:

Figured. You have no proof Tara. How could you? It never happened.

Even the USA admits it has no proof so how could you? All you do is cut and paste ridiculous British propaganda stories.

You want Syria attacked. You always have wanted Syria attacked. In such an attack 100s of 1000s of Sunni civilians will die. You want that? How vile.

I am urging President Assad to use EVERY weapon in the Syrian arsenal if the motherland is attacked and I mean EVERY.

August 23rd, 2013, 9:44 am

 

Syrialover said:

Certain posters on this forum are being obscenely dismissive and sarcastic about Syrian families being gassed to death in a military action while they slept.

Maybe this will upset them more – all the dead dogs and cats gassed by Assad’s forces along with people:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2400779/Hundreds-dead-cats-dogs-removed-streets-Damascus-suburb-hit-nerve-gas-attack-clean-operation-begins.html

August 23rd, 2013, 9:48 am

 

zoo said:

Revenire

Christian Sabra as well as Kurdish Saida and Hitto are ghosts of the past. They were failed attempts to bring in minorities to join the nest of snakes called the SNC
Al Kahtib has been silenced for good as he dared call for negotiations with the Syrian gov.
Idriss is also silent about the alleged SAA chemical attack. He knows too well that the next target of the chemical weapons in the hand of Islamists will be his crumbling ‘good’ militias all over Syria.

Sabra has proven to be a total thug, consistently calling for more violence and destroying any hopes that the Syrian Christians will ever join the nest of snakes.
Overall the SNC showed its total ineptitude, lack of leadership and its inability to do anything except whining, promising and begging and watching Syrians slaughtering each others with the help of Saudi Arabia and Qatar. They should all be put on trial and executed for high treason.

August 23rd, 2013, 9:53 am

 

revenire said:

Sharmine Narwani ?@snarwani 3h
@rmslim @HannahAllam As Rami said to me yesterday: “Count the bodies in the videos yourself.” Important not to exaggerate either,

Sharmine Narwani ?@snarwani 3h
Report: UNSC meeting on #Syria CWs folded b/c Russians had satellite pics showing it was a rebel hit: http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionId=2546&articleId=1931&ChannelId=61465&Author= …????%20????#
http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionId=2546&articleId=1931&ChannelId=61465&Author=#.UhdqG9J01gE

Charles Shoebridge ?@ShoebridgeC 18m
As here yesterday
https://twitter.com/shoebridgec/status/370470581650866176
#Russia also now suggesting #Syria rebels posted #Ghouta videos day before http://rt.com/news/syria-chemical-prepared-advance-901/

Charles Shoebridge ?@ShoebridgeC 14m
Of course #Assad should allow UN access to #Ghouta, as even #Russia agrees. But Ghouta is controlled not by Assad, but rebels US UK support.

Charles Shoebridge ?@ShoebridgeC 3h
Opposition SOHR, which US UK media usually rely on, casts doubt on #Syria rebel #Ghouta casualty count https://twitter.com/snarwani/status/370675162762313728 … via @snarwani

Charles Shoebridge ?@ShoebridgeC 18h
BBC says #KhanAlAssal #ChemicalWeapons attack killed 23 people
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23795088
No mention 16 were #Syria army
https://twitter.com/ShoebridgeC/status/314048848169418752

August 23rd, 2013, 9:57 am

 

zoo said:

Syria lover

Any UK news and photos of dead rats?

August 23rd, 2013, 10:00 am

 

revenire said:

Syrialover do you have any proof a chemical weapons attack occurred? If you have such proof can you prove it was the SAA that launched it?

I don’t think you have any proof. The US doesn’t have any so how could you?

No one cares about your photos of dead anything. You clowns cry massacre at the drop of a hat. After almost three years of moaning we are bored.

The war continues.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:00 am

 

revenire said:

“1187. ZOO said:

Syria lover

What about dead rats?”

LOL

I hope our gracious Matt “I don’t like dictators but live under Obama’s rule” Barber doesn’t ban you for that.

😉

August 23rd, 2013, 10:01 am

 

ilya said:

How come if rebels were attacked with this poisonous gas no rebels were hit only civilians died mostly kids this whole Masquerade just does not make sense so many holes in this story
Where are dead rebels?
I wont be surprised if rebels kidnapped killed those kids, in preparation for this false flag operation.
Every Victim must be ID and traced to where they lived,tested for chemicals substances in their bodies,not buried right away.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:14 am

 

Syrialover said:

For those who missed it, I’m reposting this as a good article piecing together the evidence of what happened in Ghouta:

https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/commentaryanalysis/another-halabja

August 23rd, 2013, 10:14 am

 

zoo said:

#1193 Syrialover

Evidences? Yawn….

August 23rd, 2013, 10:16 am

 

revenire said:

Oh yeah before I forget…

Syrialover
Re: the dead dogs and cats

I’d suggest they might taste better than human flesh but I have no sense of your palate.

Signed,
Gordon Ramsay

August 23rd, 2013, 10:17 am

 

Syrialover said:

Below is a link to an analysis of the Assad regime’s strategy in this latest chemicals attack, how it fits a pattern.

Assad’s forces will employ vicious tactics on a small scale, testing for reaction. And when it fails to trigger intervention, the regime systematically escalates it with impunity.

The same pattern was followed with firing on crowds, civilian massacres and hitting urban areas with tanks and airstrikes. And now clearly with the use of chemical weapons.

This pattern also involves moving these forms of attack from military exercises to mass punishment of the civilian population.

Article: “Assad’s Chemical Romance”

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/04/26/syria_chemical_weapons_strategy_obama

August 23rd, 2013, 10:18 am

 

zoo said:

#1192 Ilya

Were the rebel fighters supposed to protect the civilians wearing the gaz masks provided as part of the non lethal US and UK aid.?

No ‘activist’ reported photos or videos about any death among the fighters. In fact there is no report of any ‘activist’ present there who died, no elder either, just teenagers and children…

August 23rd, 2013, 10:22 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

On wednesday Assad thugs bombed Ghouta with chemical weapons, today his thugs bombed two mosques in Tripoli,Lebanon killing 27 and wounding more than 350.
There has to be connection between the two attacks,they both are major criminal acts.
Assad is getting more crazy and violent,and the criminals supporting him and defending him are more brazen,and they don’t care about international reaction.
Do we expect more dancing in the street of southern suburb of beirut, are they going to give sweets in the street?,those barbarian Persians they are showing how much barbarians they can get.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:25 am

 

revenire said:

The rebels are stupid.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:25 am

 

revenire said:

Majed LOL

August 23rd, 2013, 10:26 am

 

Syrialover said:

TARA #1180

Join me in laughing. At last REVENIRE has accepted the challenge to tell us who is a credible readworthy source on what is happening in Syria. He’s finally providing an alternative to his kneejerk dismissal of every writer and source that reports things uncomfortable to him.

And it’s … wait for it…drumroll…SHARMINE NARWANI.

And he also likes to quote SOHR.

It’s clear he doesn’t read what others here have repeatedly said about those sources or he wouldn’t be pushing them.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:27 am

 

zoo said:

After Israel, now Turkey is worried about the Islamists at its borders making use of chemical weapons.

Turkey increases defenses against Syrian chemical attack

23 August 2013 /S?NEM CENG?Z, ANKARA

As claims arose that chemical gas was used in a recent attack in Syria, killing more than 1,000 and injuring many more in Damascus, Turkey reinforced its defensive measures against any chemical attack along the Syrian border due to the threat of chemical weapons in the war-torn country.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:27 am

 

Syrialover said:

From his agitated random comments above, it seems the pictures of all the cats and dogs killed by Assad’s chemical gas have excited REVENIRE more than the evidence of the mass killing of humans.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:30 am

 

zoo said:

Mass destruction?
Extent of Syrian chemical attack remains unclear
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/Extent_of_Syrian_chemical_attack_remains_unclear.html?cid=36735382

swissinfo.ch: What do we know from the videos you have seen ?

Stefan Mogl: According to the Spiegel, all these video clips were all uploaded on August 21, but they cannot verify their authenticity. What we can see on the clips is a range of different types of symptoms, from myosis [constricted pupils] to excessive secretions from the eyes, nose and mouth. We see spasms and cramps, we see people gasping for air and we see tremors, muscle tremors. These can be described as textbook symptoms for nerve agent poisoning.

Taken with the significant number of subjects, including small children, there is an indication of a nerve agent release in this case in the area. But we don’t know for sure and the only way to know is to go there and take samples.

swissinfo.ch: There is a lot of speculation as to who is responsible. Would chemical analysis provide a clear answer to people’s questions?

S.M.: I don’t think conclusively. Generally, if you want to assign responsibility for the release of a chemical agent, the normal way would be to find the munitions or the dissemination devices that were used. Sometimes the particular devices give indications who owned them before the release.

You also need witness accounts on the ground to find out where the munitions were launched from and who was in charge of the particular territory at the time. But chemical analysis won’t tell you who released the agent.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:33 am

 

zoo said:

Syrialover

Fitting the pattern? No, fitting the wishes.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:36 am

 
 

revenire said:

I have bad memories of Colin Powell at the UN waving around a fraud called “proof of Iraqi WMD”.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:40 am

 

zoo said:

Revenire

We have now a whole choir of “syrians’ sopranos expats calling for US military intervention. I wonder who is the maestro of this morbid choir.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:47 am

 

apple_mini said:

It sickens to your stomach when those so-called leaders of democratic countries start to show what a bunch of villeins they are:

Assad regime responsible for Syrian chemical attack, says UK government

Without any concrete evidences, UK government has found the culprit. They don’t even know what kind of toxic gas killed those people. Let along who is behind the attack.

It truly makes you think this whole fiasco is a larger scheme than the rebels had planned.

Those hundreds of people killed by the toxic gas died for a good cause: Finally the west has “smoking gun” to intervene.

Lives of Syrian have become so cheap that even I feel sad for those Syrian rebels and its supporters. What you people have accomplished not only destroying people not on your side, but also those are within your camp.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:48 am

 

Syrialover said:

Lucky Assad. Having a main ally as crudely dishonest and diplomatically stupid as the Russian leadership.

With one side of its mouth Russia blocks the UN security council from calling for an investigation of the latest Syrian chemical weapons attack* while with the other side of its mouth it now pretends to urge Assad to cooperate in an inquiry**

* http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10258597/Syria-UN-Security-Council-wants-clarity-over-alleged-chemical-attack.html

** http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/world/middleeast/syria-chemical-attack.html

August 23rd, 2013, 10:52 am

 

Alan said:

The military intervention in Syria may well mean war with Russia and China!
The Russians and the Chinese too have been positioning pieces on the Grand Chessboard. Not only have the Russians already advised western nations that the Syrians will be armed with weapons never before seen in the middle east, but they have warned that any military confrontation in the region could potentially go nuclear!

August 23rd, 2013, 10:53 am

 

Syrialover said:

APPLE-MINI said earlier:

“I cannot wait to see the regime to grant UN inspectors access to examine the alleged toxic gas attack.”(#1027)

Sorry little apple that you are still being kept waiting.

It’s not fair to a loyal type like you to face such stress. You must fight off new frustrations and doubts about your hero Bashar every hour.

August 23rd, 2013, 11:09 am

 

Alan said:

The military intervention in Syria could be an absolute nightmare for aggressors.

August 23rd, 2013, 11:09 am

 

revenire said:

Imagine having a weak ally like the US. They’re too afraid to enter the war directly and their cannibal mercenaries are so inept they can’t even stage a fake chemical weapons attack properly.

August 23rd, 2013, 11:13 am

 

Hopeful said:

The opposition has formally called for UN inspectors to investigate the use of chemical weapons in Ghouta.

The regime is blocking the investigation.

Does that tell you anything about who the culprit is?

August 23rd, 2013, 11:32 am

 

zoo said:

Will the armed rebels accept to take the chance?

In a statement issued Friday, the Russian Foreign Ministry also urged Syria’s armed opposition to provide the inspectors safe passage to the site of the alleged attack.

August 23rd, 2013, 11:37 am

 

Alan said:

Obama doesn’t give any reason nor foresight in anything he doing ! . It’s like he calculating as a punk with evil intent.
It will be a honor for the Syrians, that their homeland going to be
a reason for the collapse of the Qaroons united states!!!

August 23rd, 2013, 11:37 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

You think Persia will protect you, you think Russia or China will fight for you, they will do nothing, they are not going to lose soldiers for the sake of a thug(Assad),let alone risk destruction of their country

As for KSA ,I wish from the bottom of my heart that there too would be people revolt,to get rid of this rotten sheikhs and corrupt kings who wasted too much money on gambling and women and on their western friends and deprived their people of improving their conditions, they could have helped Syria long time ago and helped Saudi people to improve agriculture and industry to be self sufficent and independent in the long future, oil revenue will end one day.right now we need them to help us, but we owe nothing to them

August 23rd, 2013, 11:41 am

 

Alan said:

(Laurent Louis)
http://youtu.be/9WWQ8gyuOsM?t=51s

Lies … America led to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then they were joined by Tunisia, Libya, Egypt.
You know … that our Minister of Foreign Affairs of Belgium presented the € 9 million Syrian terroripstam. Of course, we want to make sure that this money will go to the humanitarian needs of the rebels, but it’s just another lie.
This is complete nonsense … help eradicate terrorists in France, Mali, when at the same time we are helping these same terrorists in Syria to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.
In my opinion … it’s time to put an end to the lies and stop lying to our citizens. It’s time to tell the truth. We are arming Islamist terrorists, as though the West did before. As it was with bin Laden, who was working for the Americans, as long as they did not have thrown.
Wage war … to defend against an aggressor attacking from the outside – always a worthy cause. But to wage war to protect U.S. interests, or the interests of global corporations such as AREVA, or get hold of gold mines – there is nothing worthy. It just shows that our country aggressors and criminals.
And … if my remarks seem to someone attack against systems which, under the guise of “human rights” is intended financial, geostrategic, neo-colonial goals
then … this is true!
My attack on the System! …
To bring this system to clean water is a duty for me an honest man.
And I’m proud that I’m doing it!
… How dare they justify their actions danger of Islamic terrorism, when they themselves France and Belgium were arming them and helped in Libya, what they do and now in Syria! ..

August 23rd, 2013, 11:48 am

 

Alan said:

/You think Persia will protect you, you think Russia or China will fight for you/
Advise to exert more effort in learning!

August 23rd, 2013, 11:56 am

 

zoo said:

The rebels don’t trust the UN. They’ll handle the matter on “their own ”

Rebels smuggling Syria chemical weapons strike evidence to U.N. experts

http://in.news.yahoo.com/rebels-smuggling-syria-chemical-weapons-strike-evidence-u-152516184.html
;;;
Many activists in Ghouta said that while they were helping to collect samples, they were not hopeful their efforts would lead to any results from the United Nations.

“The last time we sent them evidence we had to smuggle it all the way north through Syria up to Turkey. And when investigators got it, they said the evidence could have been tampered with and was therefore not totally credible,” said activist Abu Nidal.

“We have very little faith that the U.N. or the world will do anything for us no matter how hard we try to meet their demands. I personally think its time to let the rebels handle this on their own.”

August 23rd, 2013, 12:01 pm

 

zoo said:

#1218 Majed

If Saudi Arabia king is toppled, say goodby to the help he is giving now to your friend the Islamists…

August 23rd, 2013, 12:02 pm

 

Alan said:

The first recognition of the British channel Euronews.
The Western media: “Syria is fighting with American mercenaries!”
The first recognition of the British channel Euronews. What is it?
Syrian rebels trained U.S. and Jordan
( “Loyal to Bashar al-Assad, Syrian troops fought with mercenaries trained by the Americans and Jordanians – with such a statement are the Western media, including the French” Le Figaro “and Israeli analytical resource DEBKA.

According to the data, on the eve of the south of Syria through the Jordanian border arrived two groups – a total of 550 people – Western instructors trained and supplied with weapons of Russian and Soviet models. The command of them, according to journalists, carried out from the territory of the Hashemite kingdom. ”

Just add: it’s 550 professional killers – special on the use of chemical weapons. They’re trained to shoot down civilian aircraft. They have sets of uniforms Syrian Army. They know the Arabic language! Some of them can speak in Russian. They have photos and video.

And to emphasize the same detail that distinguishes euronews: their weapons Russian and Soviet designs.

Thus, the U.S. administration throws in a fight his elite mercenaries who do not care for that die, if only to pay now and greens. He throws in the mad hope that under the guise of other misinformation provocation – not only in Syria but also in Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Turkey, and not only with the “chemical weapons” – they behead the Syrian Republic and the Syrian people will put on their knees.

And the Syrians will be put on the neck fat-emirs!

Two years ago – intervention in Libya!

As it turned out, the alliance of NATO two years ago, when NATO special forces stormed the capital of Libya, “gates” which opened bought with giblets traitors in the military!

Two years ago …

So cruelly murdered thugs United States with the Libyans!

And now …

The Americans, who started this whole bloody buzu with the “Arab revolutions”, there is no other way out. They need a head courageous, persistent patriot SYrian President Bashar al-Assad!

And it is understood and the Israelis, and the French and the English!

Therefore, publish revelations about the terrorists and their American instructors.

They point the finger at Uncle Sam! “It’s him, it’s all my fault. This is how it behaves in the words of Arabic store! And we have nothing to do with it! We – men, and they, the Americans – the animals! ”

And what kind of sneaky calculation: if the Americans win, the Western media, it turns out, was just informed that publish different sources. “Freedom of Speech” – they say.

And if the Americans will be defeated – and they will be defeated – that the Western media say, “But we warned that mercenaries – it’s disgusting and inhumane! We are with you, the Syrian brothers! ”

Americans and one of his dog incited Arabs

Yes, I knowingly wrote that provocations will not only be in Syria. Yesterday American jihadists fired U.S. missiles in Israel, and the Israeli defense failed to deal with these missiles.

Today, in retaliation, Israeli commandos blew up two cars packed with explosives in the Lebanese city of Tripoli, killing 30 and injuring about 300. And the Israeli air force has made a demonstrative raid on Lebanon and point-shelled … wasteland. Leaving a huge crater!

“Look! That’s what we will turn your Arab world “- threatens Netanyahu, who personally led the anti-Syrian operations.

http://ru.euronews.com/2013/08/22/reports-claim-us-trained-and-led-syrian-rebels-are-advancing-on-damascus/

August 23rd, 2013, 12:05 pm

 
 

zoo said:

#1223 Alan

Bashar al Assad and the SAA will be remembered as the heroes of the Arab world who fought against a coalition of US allies, including Israel and greedy GCC countries and with the complicity of brainwashed and blinded Syrians to prevent them from making Syria another Afghanistan or a puppet of the USA.

August 23rd, 2013, 12:27 pm

 

Alan said:

“We can destroy the Syrian air force,” Gen. Martin Dempsey said. “The loss of Assad’s air force would negate his ability to attack opposition forces from the air, but it would also escalate and potentially further commit the United States to the conflict. Stated another way, it would not be militarily decisive, but it would commit us decisively to the conflict.”
The US commander concluded: “The use of US military force can change the military balance, but it cannot resolve the underlying and historic ethnic, religious and tribal issues that are fueling this conflict.”
Here the general is disingenuous; the bitter sectarian conflict in Syria is not merely the product of “underlying and historic” issues, but rather the direct outcome of US imperialism and its regional allies fomenting armed conflict and funneling tens of thousands of foreign Islamist fighters into the country. The crisis confronting these forces today is not a matter of inadequate armaments, but rather the growing hostility of the population to the sectarian bloodbath being unleashed in Syria.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/08/22/syri-a22.html

August 23rd, 2013, 12:38 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
I was driving next to Persian store , I thought I go there to buy date, before I entered,I saw two Persian women with their fingers in their nose rubbing them and one has her fingers inside her nose, they were not hiding their action, these people are filthy in addition to being ugly, I left without buying anything as I am sure they were touching the food inside,
Revenir you need to teach your cousins to use napkins

August 23rd, 2013, 1:35 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Let’s not forget those poor soldiers locked away in their barracks with their regiments with no news of the outside. Unaware whether their families, homes and towns have been obliterated by the regime.

August 23rd, 2013, 1:53 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

I haven’t seen Alan so active as I have today. He’s on fire! LOL.

The Kremlins got him on a 24hr shift today. Emergency situation.

Btw Alan, how’s your friend Citizen? Hope he’s ok, hasn’t popped in for a while.

August 23rd, 2013, 1:57 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair do you have any proof of entire regiments being locked down? Any at all? I say you don’t.

August 23rd, 2013, 2:36 pm

 

Hopeful said:

I speak as a father: I cannot imagine a worst feeling

http://youtu.be/oCWpTjfShqg

I wonder what people like Rev and Zoo are made of when they still have no empathy after watching scenes like this…I am sick in my stomach.

August 23rd, 2013, 2:38 pm

 

apple_mini said:

It seems the regime has agreed to grant permission for the UN inspectors under official request from UN.

We shall see the event to be played out in the coming days.

Sources say SAA has turned into a wartime fighting machine. It is not about Assad. SAA is not Assad’s army and Assad does not give direct orders to SAA.

The atrocities the rebels has committed on SAA only hardened SAA. Islamist elements make it even worse: Just refer it to what the Egyptian army has been doing.

The mentality of SAA can be simply described as this: Either the rebels kill us or we kill them. 4th regiment has not been involved in serious fighting except last July to drive out the rebels who assassinated several top generals. Those army guys are well-informed and many of them have smartphones and they frequently visit websites including FB.

There are many reserved forces which have not been called upon for duty. The regime refuses to accept Iranian regular army to come to Syria.

As for the WMD, the rebels and opposition have not seen any of those. It is not reserved for them.

One more thing, Sisi does have special tie with SAA and intelligence. He used to serve as attaches in Syria.

August 23rd, 2013, 3:04 pm

 

revenire said:

Syrian Air Force

Full report on Damascus.

For the past 3 days the Syrian air force and artillery forces have been carrying out preemptive strikes against targets all over Damascus, including Ghouta, and many areas along the highway in an effort to decimate and break up the legions of terror that were hired by Saudi Arabia in order to destabilize the capital city.

Since 3 days ago, terrorists have tried to use two poison gas missile against the army in order to negate the advances made against them but failed in their attempt resulting in the warheads landing in areas that support and act as an incubator for these terrorist groups. In order to maximize the damage to the Syrian nation, these terrorists have accused the government off using Sarin gas against the population there.

This is flatly nonsensical as Sarin gas would have killed thousands not only in the area but around the capital where the gas would quickly diffuse. Sarin is a nerve agent that is highly effective even at low concentrations and it would not be possible to contain the damage, especially since Syrian troops were fighting only 150 meters from the sites targeted. Instead, makeshift poison gases that are not in any standing army’s stockpiles were utilized that kill victims by asphyxiation.

The targeted site is currently infested with terrorists and it is not possible to secure entry for the UN in this area without two possible agreements, a ceasefire or a total withdrawal of the terrorists from the area. The Syrian armed forces have indicated that only the latter is an acceptable option and will never agree to another ceasefire until the conflict has come to an end.

The terrorist’s use of poison gas sets a dangerous precedent not only in Syria but in surrounding nations such as Turkey, Jordan and israel. Strategy study sources indicate that these nations which have been harboring, training, arming, directing and even fighting alongside the terrorists in Syria will be facing swift and cataclysmic retaliation should their terrorists target high density living spaces in and around the capital city.

Military operations and air strikes will continue regardless of the cruel and vicious media campaign against the Syrian nation. It should be clear which side uses poison gases to kill its victims and which side dies defending the honor of its nation and the future of its people.

https://www.facebook.com/SyrianAirForce/posts/413431968777905

August 23rd, 2013, 3:21 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir said
“total withdrawal of the terrorists from the area,( refering to the good rebels)then the regime will allow UN team to inspect”
This is clear admission that the Assad thugs has used the poisonous gas bombs
Mini Apple said
“It seems the regime has agreed to grant permission for the UN inspectors under official request from UN”
Revenir followed by saying if the rebels totally withdrew
It is clear the regime is not going to allow inspection, and putting total surrender as a condition.

Then Mini apple said the SAA mentality has changed either them or us, and Assad and fourth division has nothing with what happened
Clearly this is admission of committing such heinous crime, Assad is responsible for his army actions and the missiles used to kill all those innocent kids and women and men is the responsibilty of Assad and the fourth division which is located next to Damascus

August 23rd, 2013, 4:21 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir said
Sarin gas would have killed thousands
This is nonsense it depends on the amount used

August 23rd, 2013, 4:26 pm

 

ilya said:

Majed can you explain how not single rebel was killed this is mystery!!!
Maybe rebels staged false flag operation to cancel original UN meeting who knows

August 23rd, 2013, 4:28 pm

 

zoo said:

Bndar’s plan is failing. Obama: It requires ‘attention’, no rushed action .

Obama still unwilling to act on Syria
August 24, 2013
http://gulftoday.ae/portal/80bc2ad8-18a4-4bb6-bee1-01ba14ef7826.aspx

WASHINGTON: President Barack Obama said in an interview aired on Friday that an apparent poison gas attack in Syria this week was “clearly a big event” but said the United States must be cautious in its response.

In his first public comments since Wednesday’s attack in the Damascus suburbs, Obama stressed the importance of international law in responding to the incident, and said he was wary of the financial and human costs of getting involved in complex foreign disputes.

August 23rd, 2013, 4:47 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

From the Washington Post:

“Immediately upon receipt of relevant information, the Russian side called on the government of Syria to cooperate with the U.N. chemical experts,” the Foreign Ministry statement said. “The task now for the opposition is to provide secure access to the proposed site of the incident.”

From Hurriyet:

Syria’s opposition said on Aug. 23 it would ensure the safety of U.N. chemical weapons inspectors in areas of Syria it controls and said it was critical that they reached the site of an alleged gas attack near Damascus within 48 hours.

“We will ensure the safety of the U.N. team … It is critical that those inspectors get there within 48 hours,” Khaled Saleh, spokesman for the opposition Syrian National Coalition, told a news conference in Istanbul.

Saleh’s comments were an apparent rebuttal of suggestions from Moscow earlier that the opposition was preventing an objective investigation into allegations that the Syrian government carried out a chemical weapons attack.

“Much needed signals from the opposition, including its readiness to guarantee the safety and effective work of U.N. experts on territory controlled by militants, unfortunately are not forthcoming,” the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

August 23rd, 2013, 4:52 pm

 

zoo said:

#1232 Apple-mini

Al Sisi and Bashar will soon join forces to eradicate the Islamist virus from the region.

The simplistic and naive Syrians who thought the’ll get an easy revolution a la Tunisia, then a la Egyptian, then a la Libyan are faced with no revolution at all, but the destruction of their country for nothing.

August 23rd, 2013, 4:54 pm

 

apple_mini said:

I remember last time after car bombing hit southern Beirut, we heard some SC members here grinning and saying they are handing out candy.

After today’s twin car bombing in Tripoli, I guess it is Israeli policy makers and intelligence handing out candy.

Arabs are slaughtering Arabs while Israel is encroaching more land and settlements. Can you get better than that?

Maybe Arabs deserve what they get today if they refuse to advance to 21st century.

One more thing, for those Arabic expats who advocate violence, the country they are leeching on should repatriate them if they refuse to go joining fighting voluntarily.

August 23rd, 2013, 4:55 pm

 

zoo said:

#1238 WSS

“We will ensure the safety of the U.N. team … It is critical that those inspectors get there within 48 hours,” Khaled Saleh, spokesman for the opposition Syrian National Coalition, told a news conference in Istanbul.:

One small detail: It is well known that the SNC has zero authority on the rebels on the ground. The rebels do not recognize the SNC, worse they despise them.
The SNC is living in a total fantasy world of a power they don’t have. They are pathetic.

August 23rd, 2013, 4:59 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

1227. Revenire said:

Uzair do you have any proof of entire regiments being locked down? Any at all? I say you don’t.

It’s been long understood they’ve been confined to the barracks. Damascus Rose claimed the same the other day saying the regime still had those reserves to resort to.

It would make sense. Why else is Assad short of reliable men? He may not trust much of his army and deem it to much of a risk to allow them out of the barracks due to fear of defections which would embarrass and weaken the regime and strengthen the rebels.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:08 pm

 

revenire said:

Bill isn’t it funny how the corrupt Western press spins Russia’s statements?

August 23rd, 2013, 5:08 pm

 

zoo said:

1231. Hopeful

I am sick in my stomach because these innocents are victims of a conflict the opposition repeatedly refuse to stop by refusing to participate in the only way to stop it, the Geneva conference.
By doing so, the opposition bears the whole responsibility of these violent deaths.
It makes me even sicker that the opposition not only won’t budge but prefers to call for more weapons and more innocent deaths to satisfy their ego and their master’s egos.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:08 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair understood by whom? Do you have a single shred of proof for that statement?

Who said Assad is short of men? Do they publish numbers? Would we rely on Syrian government numbers? Or the opposition’s?

I can shoot holes in anything you post.

We need PROOF… otherwise you might as well come here and just blather on like Majed and Tara do.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:11 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

From the New York Times:

Russia released a second statement Friday, once again suggesting that the opposition was responsible for the attack.

“More and more evidence emerges indicating that this criminal act had an openly provocative character,” Aleksandr Lukashevich, a Foreign Ministry spokesman, said in the statement. He said there were reports circulating on the Internet, with accusations against government troops, that were posted on YouTube several hours before the attack. “So the talk here is about a previously planned action,” he said.

However, he may have been confused by YouTube’s practice of time-stamping videos based on the time in its California headquarters that a user uploads material, no matter the originating time zone. The attacks occurred early Wednesday, when it was still Tuesday in California for about eight more hours.

In his statement, Mr. Lukashevich praised the Syrian government for welcoming Carla del Ponte, a member of a United Nations commission on Syria who suggested in May that the rebels had used chemical weapons, and he also accused the Syrian opposition of not cooperating with the investigation by United Nations experts. The unwillingness of rebels to provide security for the experts, he said, “directly hinders the objective investigation of statements on possible use of chemical weapons in Syria.”

The Syrian government did not comment on Friday.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:14 pm

 

zoo said:

Canada will get ‘facts first’ on Syria before any steps, says Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird

http://www.canada.com/news/national/Canada+will+facts+first+Syria+before+steps+says+Foreign+Affairs/8826442/story.html

Baird acknowledged there is “no simple answer” when it comes to resolving the two-year conflict, while taking issue with the UN Security Council’s failure to come to agreement on a way forward.

“What can the world do?” he asked. “After the (Security Council) meeting yesterday there was no agreement. There is no opportunity even to have an official response to the council.”

France has threatened military action if it is proven the Syrian government used chemical weapons against its own people.

Yet when asked what steps Canada is prepared to take, Baird repeated past assertions that the first step is to verify whether chemical weapons had in fact been used, and by whom.

He also refused to say whether Canada is entertaining military action if the claims are proven, despite having threatened “serious consequences” last year if the Syrian government used chemical weapons.

“We’re going to get the facts first and talk to our friends and allies before we come to any conclusions,” he said.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:17 pm

 

revenire said:

Bill don’t rely on your corrupt Western media for Russian news. I hate to say this – William – but I am starting to believe you’re as corrupt as the press you post.

This is what they said:

Materials implicating Syrian govt in chemical attack prepared before incident – Russia
http://rt.com/news/syria-chemical-prepared-advance-901/

Syria opposition preventing chemical attack probe: Russia
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/23/320110/syria-militants-preventing-chem-probe/

Russia has accused Syria’s opposition of preventing an objective investigation into an alleged chemical attack near the capital, Damascus.

Russian Foreign Ministry said on Friday that by remaining silent and refusing to guarantee safe access for the UN investigators to the alleged place of the chemical attack, the opposition is directly preventing a probe into the incident, Reuters reported.

“Much needed signals from the opposition, including its readiness to guarantee the safety and effective work of UN experts on territory controlled by militants, unfortunately are not forthcoming,” the ministry said in a statement, adding, “It is directly preventing an objective investigation into the possible use of chemical weapons in Syria.”

August 23rd, 2013, 5:17 pm

 

zoo said:

Moqdad defects from the SNC: World’s reactions are “silly.” Who’s talking?

Moqdad quits National Coalition over ‘ineffective’ world relations

August 24, 2013 12:08 AM

BEIRUT: Political and media coordinator for the Free Syrian Army Louay Moqdad has quit the main opposition bloc, the Syrian National Coalition, in protest over what he describes as “ineffective” relations with the international community.

Moqdad, who is close to Saudi Arabia, only recently joined the Western-backed bloc as part of its recent expansion to become more inclusive, after allegations the group was dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood.

He told The Daily Star that he had resigned, angry over what he called a “silly” response by the international community to Wednesday’s deadly chemical attack in the Damascus region of Eastern Ghouta, allegedly by the Syrian regime, during which possibly hundreds of people, including children, were killed.

“I just don’t feel myself effective in the coalition,” he said by phone. “I don’t feel the international community act with the coalition in the right way.

“Especially after the tragedy in Ghouta … the coalition called for the international community to meet, and what did we get? Statements. It was a silly reaction by the international community,” he added.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Aug-24/228475-moqdad-quits-national-coalition-over-ineffective-world-relations.ashx#ixzz2cpVH3qam
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

August 23rd, 2013, 5:24 pm

 
 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Dog-poop athad from now on is demoted to Chemical Dog-Poop athad.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:25 pm

 

revenire said:

You know Uzair, you might be a nice fellow but you believe this revolution trash too much. There is no shortage of SAA soldiers. There are no regiments confined to their barracks. That is from your friends in the cannibal army and only from them. I know SAA soldiers and officers and they are not complaining of shortages.

You do know they could flatten any city with the rebels in right? It would take a few hours. No one would be left alive. If they wanted to use chemical weapons 10s of 1000s would be dead. It would be all over. They won’t do that because of the civilians. You know it and I know you know it.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:30 pm

 

revenire said:

Zoo maybe this Moqdad can get a new job shining his Saudi masters’ shoes? Sad to see him go. Soon there will be more opposition members that have quit than in the opposition.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:34 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

CHEMICAL ATROCITY – THEORY #5

Regime’s Redlines

Perhaps Damascus (and strategic locations in and around eg Damascus Airport) is a red line for Assad and his chiefs? He won’t allow it to be threatened or be breached. Perhaps recent rebel gains have done just that? Perhaps the regime has already decided some time ago it won’t allow this redline to be crossed and will not hesitate to use chemical weapons?

Just been reading a thread on Deenport (Syria-Chemical Attack) where a couple of quotes from Le Figaro have been posted.

First someone claimed Jerusalem Post and Le Figaro were reporting US, Jordanian and Isreali Commandos had trained rebels for a recent advance on the Capital.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Syrian-rebel-forces-trained-by-West-are-moving-towards-Damascus-324033

A skeptic of the revoulution quotes from the article:

The paper quoted a researcher at the French Institute for Strategic Analysis as saying the trained rebels group was passing through Ghouta, on their way to Damascus.

A supporter of the revolution quotes from presmubly the same article:

Guerrilla fighters trained by the West began moving towards Damascus in mid-August, French newspaper Le Figaro reported on Thursday.

Le Figaro reported that this is the reason behind the Assad regime’s alleged chemical weapons attack in Damascus on Wednesday morning, as UN inspectors were allowed into the country to investigate allegations of WMD use.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:35 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

From the Guardian:

At least three victims of the alleged chemical weapons attack in east Damascus on Thursday have been smuggled to Jordan where samples of their blood and urine will help determine which agent was used to gas hundreds of people.

The samples could help inform an international response to the attack, which has sharply upped the stakes in Syria’s civil war, drawing demands for recrimination and edging a much-feared regional spillover closer to reality.

[…]

United Nations inspectors in Damascus were denied access for a second day to the affected areas of the capital – only seven-10 miles from their hotel.

Sources inside rebel-held districts said an active network of defectors, some of whom had fled the Syrian military’s chemical warfare division, were helping to smuggle biological samples from the scenes of the attack to Jordan. At least three more victims suffering mild effects of gassing will be transferred to Jordan in the next few days.

The samples being sourced are biopsies of livers and spleens from fatalities, as well as blood and urine from survivors.

Rebel groups have received contact from investigators identifying themselves as UN team members asking for co-operation in providing samples. The investigators have apparently asked for biological samples to be taken from animals, too. The Guardian has been unable to verify if the contact was from the UN.

A questionnaire distributed to some rebel commanders asks for GPS co-ordinates of the attacks and launch sites as well as all medical records of victims, laboratory results and environmental samples.

Chemical weapons experts interviewed by the Guardian said that symptoms of the dead and dying depicted on videos posted online support a growing view that sarin was the nerve agent used in the attack, which killed up to 1,400 people.

August 23rd, 2013, 5:36 pm

 

revenire said:

I cried too… for the poor Turkish people who have to suffer this animal.

Turkey’s Erdogan cries at poem about Muslim Brotherhood daughter
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2013/08/23/Turkey-s-Erdogan-cries-at-poem-about-Muslim-Brotherhood-daughter-s-death.html

August 23rd, 2013, 5:37 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

The dastardly assad ordered this massacre and the lower than keep trying confusion, obfuscation, sophistry, detraction, distraction, and plain ugly lying to get the bastards out of the grave they have dug for them. I happen to believe that they see their own fate, and it scares the crap out of them.

From the Field

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August 23rd, 2013, 5:46 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

CHEMICAL ATROCITY – THEORY #6

A commander in the area is struggling to hold his ground in the face of rebel advances. What does he do as he is under strict orders? Retreat with his men deeper into Damascus towards the centre and face consequences (least of which is lost face/humiliation/cowardice)? He can’t face that so Chemical weapons it is then. A temptation too great to resist?

August 23rd, 2013, 5:58 pm

 

don said:

Erdogan says: “Jews control Washington”

Jerusalem and Babylon / Making use of Erdogan’s paranoia

Yes, Turkey’s prime minister believes that Jews control Washington and the global economy

If that wasn’t bad enough, he immediately presented his proof – no, not a secret Zionist protocol, but the flamboyant French philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy, who happens to be Jewish and two years ago uttered dire predictions of a Muslim Brotherhood rise to power.

He’s just of the variety that hates the idea of those Jews running the world.

Yes, he believes that Jews (or as he calls us when he isn’t losing it, “the interest rate lobby”) control Washington and the global economy

http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/jerusalem-babylon/.premium-1.543108

But it’s not irrational hatred, at least from Erdogan’s perspective. After all, the serious newspapers have been full of reports in recent weeks of Israeli diplomats working behind the scenes in Washington to convince the Obama administration and Congress not to cut off aid to Egypt because the generals, so the Israeli argument goes, are the only ones who can prevent the region from descending into worse chaos. And it’s not only Israel’s official representatives but also Jewish lobbyists, AIPAC and other unofficial agents of influence who are pressing this message.

Of course, some readers may say that these reports are anti-Semitic hallucinations, but they happen to be true. And why shouldn’t they be? The generals who have been murderously cracking down on the Muslim Brotherhood, killing hundreds of demonstrators and arresting politicians and journalists, are no one’s dream leaders, but the Israeli policy of supporting them (and the similar American policy), while controversial, is a legitimate one. After all, the alternatives for now are a fragmented dysfunctional “civil” sector that is mainly supporting the generals, and the Brotherhood, which used its electoral victories to try to install its own autocratic rule (also in alliance with the military).

Israel shouldn’t have to apologize for the fact that with other countries in the region it’s lobbying the administration to stay the course. Naturally, this is galling to Erdogan, who pinned his hopes for regional domination on the Brotherhood, but there’s an inherent irony, if not hypocrisy, in his resentment of the exercise of Israeli and Jewish influence in Washington.

For decades, well into Erdogan’s time in office, this influence was wielded on behalf of Israel’s strategic ally, Turkey. If anything, that influence was used for a more shameful purpose: supporting Turkey’s efforts to thwart Armenian Americans’ quest to have the murder of 1.5 million Armenians at the hands of the Turkish army in World War I recognized by the United States as genocide.

Erdogan didn’t have any problem with using the Israel lobby for that purpose, and it hardly came as a surprise when following the deterioration in relations under Erdogan, Congress finally passed a resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide. I doubt many Jewish diplomats or lobbyists particularly relished genocide-denying, but that’s just one price to pay for living and prospering in this neighborhood.

August 23rd, 2013, 6:02 pm

 

Ilya said:

uzair8
Any theories that FSA/rebels behind such an attack or its not even possible in theory?

August 23rd, 2013, 6:03 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The rebels must cover the bombs canisters by plastic bags to keep the proof long

August 23rd, 2013, 6:07 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

1257. Ilya said:

uzair8
Any theories that FSA/rebels behind such an attack or its not even possible in theory?

What a preposterous suggestion!

Anyway that’s your job.

Btw the answer to your question about why there were no rebel victims in the chemical attack, well, I’m sure there were, however, neither side reveals it’s losses or shows images/video of those losses.

About the theories, I’m getting people to think outside the box.

August 23rd, 2013, 6:24 pm

 

zoo said:

Analysis of the sample and then what?

Toxic gas is responsible for the death of innocents, there is no doubt about that.
If the samples are acceptable, i.e not suspected of being tampered as it was the case before, it will possible to know which toxic gaz. That’s it.
It will impossible to know how this toxic gas reached mainly children and avoided fighters. It will be impossible to know the actual toll. It will impossible to determine with accuracy who is the culprit
Overall, it will change nothing as doubts will always subsist on the responsible of this crime.

This exercise is only a way for the West to say they have done something and relieve their guilt of having fueled more violence in Syria by their inflaming and hasty declarations, their indecision and their inaction. They have allowed the situation to rot. Now they worry.

Therefore the EU and the UN jumped again on the Geneva conference claiming it is now more urgent than ever. Can they convince the opposition who until now have refused by throwing unacceptable conditions?

Maybe this event will change the mood.
The opposition has been hoping that this spectacular attack was going to make the conference irrelevant as it would trigger a Western militarily intervention.
Nothing of the sort is happening, Obama made it clear so we are back to square one with hundred more dead.
The UN, the US, the EU and even the Arab League repeated that the Geneva conference must take place soon.

Will the opposition finally accept to participate to the Geneva conference? Or shall we wait for more ‘massacres’?
My opinion is that the opposition is weaker than ever and they have no more choice if they want to stay relevant. October is getting close.

August 23rd, 2013, 7:58 pm

 

zoo said:

1261. majedkhaldoun

I have not seen any photos or videos of ‘bomb canisters’.
Maybe the organizer of the stage forgot to plant some.

August 23rd, 2013, 8:02 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

How naive you are ,some canisters did not explode they can easily be distinguished where they were made.

Also I sense that you fear the worst, that you too know that the regime did it.

Using CW bombs is against humanitarian international law,Russia and china along with US England and France already signed it, there is no need to have security council meeting, it is automatically can be trigured and punishment will be done.
Russia already agreed to the investigations

August 23rd, 2013, 8:11 pm

 

Ghufran said:

The poor response to the MB’s call for ” massive demonstrations” in Egypt is a good sign. Western press including Reuter was underwhelmed by the number of protestors they saw in Cairo. An Egyptian friend said that the honey moon with the army will be short lived if the Generals do not take serious measures to implement the road map they announced few weeks ago.
I personally have given up on the possibility of Syrians sitting down to end the misery of 3 million displaced children, war lords and foreign power are not interested in ending this war. Louai Hussein told the press that he does not believe that the potential use of chemical agents in Syria will be a game changer, he added that both sides have committed enough human rights abuses.
Sheikh zulfiqar ghazal of Latakia ignored reports that his uncle may have been killed, he said that there are 106 kidnapped civilians from Latakia who were taken to another province ( probably Idleb or Halab) and he is hopeful that they will return, he mentioned that 123 bodies were discovered so far, I was struck by his mild tone and conciliatory language. Less than 400 villagers lived in the towns attacked by terrorists, more than half of them were either killed or kidnapped.
Reuter reported that western agencies believe that the Syrian government did use chemical agents in Ghoutah .
( a new thread from Joshua will probably be posted soon)

August 23rd, 2013, 8:16 pm

 

Tara said:

http://www.aljazeera.net/mob/f6451603-4dff-4ca1-9c10-122741d17432/dfe99b23-c734-41ab-aea3-b0d80dfa87f0

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August 23rd, 2013, 8:35 pm

 

zoo said:

1265. majedkhaldoun said:

“How naive you are ,some canisters did not explode they can easily be distinguished where they were made.”

How happen there are no photos or videos of the cannisters?

August 23rd, 2013, 8:39 pm

 

don said:

Recep Tayyip Erdogan was speaking to like-minded folks, provincial leaders of his political party.

The prime minister of Turkey is often portrayed as the model of a modern, moderate Islamist ruler. But he showed himself to be anything but moderate and more medieval than 21st century when he got around to talking about the ouster of fellow Islamist Mohamed Morsi as president of Egypt. It was, Erdogan said, the work of — who else?

President Barack Obama once described Erdogan to Time magazine as one of the handful of world leaders he has the best relations with. A White House spokesman “strongly” condemned Erdogan’s rant as “offensive, unsubstantiated, and wrong.” But neither Erdogan nor other strongmen like Russia’s Vladimir Putin or Syria’s Bashar al-Assad pay much attention to what comes from the Obama White House.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/22093514-452/turkish-leaders-hot-air-on-egypt.html

August 23rd, 2013, 8:41 pm

 

zoo said:

Will Obama ‘send messages’ on the gut feeling of some officials who believe without any conclusive evidence that the SAA used chemical weapons ?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/23/20156849-us-officials-believe-syria-used-chemical-weapons-weigh-military-response?lite

While there is still no conclusive evidence, senior U.S. officials told NBC News on Friday that they believe the Syrian military did attack civilians with chemical weapons this week, prompting the Obama administration to consider how and when the U.S. military might respond.

President Barack Obama said he has shortened the time frame for the U.S. to decide whether it will act to halt the bloodshed, telling CNN that reports of a possible chemical weapons attack Wednesday near Damascus was “a big event of grave concern.”

U.S. officials said no decisions were made at a White House meeting among Obama’s top advisers Thursday, which they described as the “most intense” discussion of possible military operations so far. Another meeting was scheduled for Saturday at the White House.

Josh Earnest, a White House spokesman, told reporters Friday that “all options remain on the table when it comes to Syria.” But senior military officials who spoke on condition of anonymity told NBC News that any military response would likely be limited both in scope and impact.

“If the president wants to send a message” — most likely with limited airstrikes against a few targets — “we’re good at sending messages,” one official said. But if the White House wants to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad, “We’re not able to do that” without a long-term military commitment, the official said.

August 23rd, 2013, 8:53 pm

 

zoo said:

The American public has no interest in a war in Syria. No Bosnia like action. It needs a nationwide debate. The USA can only do something symbolical to save its credibility on its position about chemical weapons.

Shields and Lowry on Stakes for U.S. on Syria,

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec13/politicalwrap_08-23.html

RICH LOWRY:
…if this event goes without any reaction on the part of the United States, it will be a further erosion of this taboo since the end of World War I against the use of these kind of weapons and will really harm U.S. credibility, because the president has been so out there and so — has such strongly worded red lines.

So it wouldn’t surprise me if there is some sort of punitive, basically symbolic strike against government buildings or against airfields or something of that nature with standoff airpower or cruise missiles.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, that’s the question. What are the options for the administration? What can they do? Because they have been looking at this for a long time, Mark.

MARK SHIELDS: Well, intelligence, Judy, says that there — it would require 60,000 troops on the ground to eliminate the 12 depots where their chemical weapons are stored, they being the Syrians.

I don’t see that. I don’t see that happening. And I think that if there is military action — Judy, there is no more serious decision that any nation makes than going to war. And we have done it twice with no debate in the past 11 years in this country, really no serious public debate.

And I think this is the time. If we’re going to do this, there is time for really a full debate, not simply in the White House or in the administration, but in the country. I think the Congress has a responsibility. I think the press has a responsibility.

Now, I don’t think we are going to do anything on the scale ultimately of what Clinton did in Bosnia. I think, if we do something, it’s going to be largely symbolic. And a huge limiting factor here is just nature of the opposition, because if you did more and really undermined the government, then you’re indirectly helping an opposition that, as currently constituted, we don’t have a lot of confidence in, to say the least.

August 23rd, 2013, 9:05 pm

 

zoo said:

Pro-Morsi mobilisation feeble after crackdown on Egypt’s Brotherhood

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/79767/Egypt/Politics-/ProMorsi-mobilisation-feeble-after-crackdown-on-Eg.aspx

The arrests have affected the group’s ability to mobilise their supporters, El-Shobki added. Brotherhood members, known for following a strict hierarchy, suddenly find no one to direct them.

“The curfew and strict security measures did not affect the marches as much as the arrest of Brotherhood leaders,” El-Shobki commented.

The second reason, according to El-Shobki, is the “complete absence of sympathy and support for the Brotherhood” after Mohamed Morsi’s “failed one-year.

August 23rd, 2013, 9:09 pm

 
 

zoo said:

Tunisian opposition demands Islamist government quit

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/79747/World/Region/Tunisian-opposition-demands-Islamist-government-qu.aspx

Tunisia’s secular opposition said on Friday that the governing Islamists must quit power before they would join negotiations to resolve the country’s worst crisis since its Arab Spring revolt, declaring otherwise the talks would be a waste of time.

Opposition leaders said an agreement in principle by the Islamist party Ennahda on Thursday to start talks soon with the mediation of the country’s powerful UGTT trade union federation was only a government attempt to buy time.

August 23rd, 2013, 9:13 pm

 

Ghufran said:

No drama Obama may indeed order a missile strike against Syria but such a move will be too little too late, USA Generals are opposed to a large campaign which is required to make any measurable difference in the military situation in Syria. If Obama orders the strike he will do it for political reasons, the Syrian army will absorb the initial strike and retaliate against rebel positions and things will go back to square one.

August 23rd, 2013, 9:23 pm

 

zoo said:

Majedalkhalddon

The USA will not risk having the US army attacking any significant target in Syria.
I suspect Obama may ask Israel to do the strike as no one would blame Israel for ‘defending’ itself while everybody will blame the USA of an offensive action on a UN state.

If it happens, it will be symbolic like hitting an area where there are no human beings, a factory or whatever and the media will claim it was a storage for rockets. They won’t take the chance of having a significant number of Syrians, soldier or civilian killed.
The trouble is that an Israeli attack on an Arab country just as the peace negotiations are going on will be very badly perceived. It may also change the Arab public opinion in favor of the SAA.
I may be wrong but I think the USA will do nothing,

August 23rd, 2013, 9:27 pm

 

revenire said:

Have the cruise missiles hit the chicken farm yet?

August 23rd, 2013, 9:53 pm

 

zoo said:

Prof. Landis said. “There have been tons of bad reports coming out of Syria. There’s a lot of exaggeration, lots of videos that have been falsified.

The search for answers in Damascus is elusive, even for reporters on the ground

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/the-search-for-answers-in-damascus-is-elusive-even-for-reporters-on-the-ground/article13942086/

For those journalists who make it in with the opposition, the rebels have placed severe restrictions on reporters inside the territories they control, and many reporters find themselves unable to confirm any information beyond the limited area where they can travel

Joshua Landis, director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma and a Syria expert, says a large part of the problem is that the increasingly radicalized narratives on both sides don’t fit the narrative most Western media outlets want to deliver.

“The entire West has a bias which is democracy – democracy is the religion of the West, in a sense,” Prof. Landis said. “And every time the West sees a struggle, it tries to fit it into this narrative of good versus evil, democrats versus tyrants, and unfortunately in Syria we have a narrative that doesn’t fit easily into that.”

While most experts have stopped short of questioning the authenticity of footage from Wednesday’s apparent chemical weapons attack, there is a general agreement that a lot of unverifiable information is floating around.

“We are basing almost everything on the use of video and on opposition reports,” Prof. Landis said. “There have been tons of bad reports coming out of Syria. There’s a lot of exaggeration, lots of videos that have been falsified.”

August 23rd, 2013, 9:53 pm

 

Tara said:

Syria ‘chemical attack’: Distressing footage under analysis

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23806491

01:15: 21 August (10:15 GMT 20 Aug): Facebook pages of Syrian opposition report heavy fighting in rebel-held districts in the eastern Ghouta, the agricultural belt around Damascus

02:45: Opposition posts Facebook report of “chemical shelling” in Ein Tarma area of Ghouta

02:47: Second opposition report says chemical weapons used in Zamalka area of Ghouta

Reports say chemical weapons were used in Ghouta towns of Irbin, Jobar, Zamalka, and Ein Tarma as well as Muadhamiya in the western Ghouta, but this is not confirmed
Syrian government acknowledges military offensive in the Ghouta but denies chemical weapons use

Some of those who did not survive can be seen laid out in their nightclothes in the basement shelters where they were taken. Some survivors describe being woken up by the blasts in the middle of the night while they were in bed.

“We were asleep when we were hit,” says one small boy. “My mother put wet clothes on our eyes, it was burning. My father was screaming ‘Get out… get out’. We saw a dead body outside as we left the house. My mother fainted and my father started crying. He put me in a car and the car left. I don’t know where he is.”

“I don’t know where any of them are,” he adds, before dissolving into tears.

Timing and location
One video report shows the headlights in the pitch dark of what appear to be ambulances with sirens screeching, apparently rushing from areas that had been under attack.

Another report shows victims being laid out on a pavement to be methodically washed down in an apparent attempt to decontaminate them. A low light, as though from car headlights, shakily illuminates the night time scene.

And inside one makeshift hospital, where victims are being frantically treated, the call to morning prayer can be heard – a call which usually comes some 45 minutes before sunrise.

Even more precise timing is suggested by posts on Facebook.

On the three main Facebook pages of Syrian opposition groups, the first mention of chemical weapons came at 02:45 local time.

A report from the Ein Tarma Co-ordination Committee announced that “a number of residents died in suffocation cases due to chemical shelling of the al-Zayniya area [in Ein Tarma]”.

One boy breaks down on camera saying he did not know the whereabouts of his family
Two minutes later at 02:47, the Sham News Network posted an “urgent” caption, and claimed that government forces had shelled Zamalka using chemical weapons.

The third post, from the Local Co-ordination Committees (LCC), an opposition activist network, came minutes after at 02:55 with a similar report.

Significantly, an hour and a half earlier at approximately 01:15, the three groups had posted reports of fierce clashes in the same areas of the eastern Ghouta, the agricultural belt around Damascus, between Free Syrian Amy rebels and government forces, as well as shelling by government forces, and a claim that the Free Syrian Army had shot down a helicopter in the area.

The alleged chemical attacks on civilians that have so shocked the world did not, it seems, come out of the blue.

As for the location of the attacks, time and again rebel strongholds in the eastern Ghouta are mentioned, especially the towns of Irbin, Jobar, Zamalka and Ein Tarma. And to the west of Damascus, the town of Muadhamiya is named.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:00 pm

 

zoo said:

While the hysterical media beats the war drums…

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2013/08/us_moving_ships_closer_to_syri.html

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama on Friday played down the prospect of speedy U.S. intervention in Syria, stressing the difficulty of ordering military action against the Assad government without a strong international coalition and a legal mandate from the United Nations.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:01 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed if Obama launches an attack be sure to take your heart medicine as soon as you hear the good news. Older men must concern themselves with excitement i.e. cruise missile attacks and/or sexual relations.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:10 pm

 

zoo said:

The suicide bombs on Shias in Roueiss, the car bombs on Sunnis in Tripoli, the chemical weapons attack in Syria are all from the same hands, the Islamists and their local allies .

It is time the USA and the international community does something about it instead of throwing wild accusations on the SAA or on Hezbollah.
If they don’t then the next victims will be Jordanians and Israelis. It’s time to switch from trying to topple Bashar al Assad and his non-Islamist army to making all effort to topple the Islamists that have overtaken the skeleton of the Syrian opposition and use it as a convenient cover up.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:15 pm

 

Tara said:

Reve,

I would recommend Aspirin to loyalists to be started stat. Do not bother with fish oil. No evidence it protect “older” men from anything. Save your money.

And please do not link me a report to the contrary. It doesn’t help. Take my words for it

August 23rd, 2013, 10:17 pm

 

revenire said:

I sure hope Obama doesn’t send a cruise missile into my house! I am getting scared!!

August 23rd, 2013, 10:17 pm

 

revenire said:

Fish oil? Fish oil!? I don’t like eating fish.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:19 pm

 

zoo said:

Revenire

And if Obama does nothing, what would you recommend war mongers should take? more anti-depressant?

August 23rd, 2013, 10:19 pm

 

Tara said:

Reve,

Then stick to “baby” Aspirin day in and day out. Do not bother with “fish” and its oil.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:25 pm

 

revenire said:

Been taking them for about two years now. It started after reading your posts – feel chest pains when I read them. 😉

August 23rd, 2013, 10:27 pm

 

ALI said:

There will be no intervention.

The only clear fact that the West is supporting and arming terrorists in Syria

August 23rd, 2013, 10:27 pm

 

revenire said:

“And if Obama does nothing, what would you recommend war mongers should take? more anti-depressant?”

Some sort of GAS?

Ha ha.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:27 pm

 

ALI said:

Quote of the day

“God created Syria for al-ASSAD and choosing al-ASSAD puts you on the right path to God

August 23rd, 2013, 10:31 pm

 

ALI said:

al-ASSAD is protecting Obama and the humanity.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:33 pm

 

Tara said:

#1285

Funny. Big smile.

Glad I am that effective.

Watch out. Little Apple will get mad.

August 23rd, 2013, 10:35 pm

 
 

zoo said:

“Are the Islamists planning another chemical weapons attack and are these gas masks sneaked into Syria destined to their fighters?”

http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=216130

In neighboring Lebanon, the army said in a statement that troops have captured a truck with “large amounts” of gas masks in the southeastern village of Kfeir near the border with Syria.—

August 23rd, 2013, 10:42 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

The public opinion in the Arab states and specially in Syria is strong condemnation of Assad troops because he used CW

They all demand that Assad should be disciplined, if anything happen, I expect strike airports,damage enough aircrafts, and if Assad use CW again, he will be vaporized

August 23rd, 2013, 10:58 pm

 

ghufran said:

I think the UN will be given access to the site of the suspected chemical attack, Russia seems convinced that the rebels, not Assad troops, fired 2 rockets from Douma similar to what Hamas used against Israel in an attempt to deter the advancing Syrian army and potentially draw a response from NATO. Watch the UN inspectors, if they leave quickly that means a military strike is imminent but if they stay and are allowed to expand their mission, the more likely scenario, then a strike will be put on hold pending the results of the investigation, there is a number of US officials who want Obama to show some muscles but there is no appetite for a large strike, either way I believe the rebels will not receive the help they need. Efforts now are focused on Daraa through Jordan and if that fails then a new diplomatic initiative will surface. There are attempts to restart Lebanon’s civil war but Lebanese are not in the mood, only Takfiris are interested in car bombs and suicide attacks, other people want to live, the same people who detonated a bomb in S.Beirut are the ones who killed 42 people in Tripoli-Lebanon and slaughtered 8 civilians in Aleppo restaurant (including teens who were celebrating their good exam results), those animals who only live to kill or die will lose.

August 24th, 2013, 12:25 am

 

don said:

The sources of Obama’s tragic Syria policy

Caroline Glick

At the outset of the Syrian civil war two-and-a-half years ago, Obama outsourced the development of Syria’s opposition forces to Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Erdogan. He had other options. A consortium of Syrian Kurds, moderate Sunnis, Christians and others came to Washington and begged for US assistance. But they were ignored. . . .

Obama embraced Erdogan, an Islamic fascist who has won elections, as his closest ally and most trusted adviser in the Muslim world.

And so, with the full support of the US government, Erdogan stacked Syria’s opposition forces with radical Muslims like himself. Within months the Muslim Brotherhood comprised the majority in Syria’s US-sponsored opposition.

The Muslim Brotherhood has no problem collaborating with al-Qaida, because the latter was formed by Muslim Brothers. It shares the Brotherhood’s basic ideology.

Since al-Qaida has the most experienced fighters, its rise to leadership and domination of the Syrian opposition was a natural progression.

In other words, Obama’s decision to have Turkey form the Syrian opposition led inevitably to the current situation in which the Iranian- and Russian-backed Syrian regime is fighting an opposition dominated by al-Qaida.

Halil Karaveli

supports the key elements of Glick’s indictment of Obama’s Syria policy — namely:

(1) that “the U.S. and Turkey have been closely coordinating their efforts to bring about regime change in Damascus;”

(2) that “Turkey, alongside Qatar, has continued to throw its weight behind the Muslim Brotherhood;” and

(3) that “owing in part to Turkish support, the Muslim Brotherhood has succeeded – even though its social base within Syria is relatively small – in eclipsing other groups, first in the Syrian National Council, which is headquartered in Istanbul, and then within the new opposition umbrella group that was assembled by the U.S. at the
end of 2012.

To Obama’s credit, he has reacted to the ascent of the radical Islamists in Syria by backing away from the opposition, even in the face of his pal Erdogan’s advocacy for strongly supporting the opposition. But, as Glick notes, the ascent of the radicals leaves the U.S. with no good options in Syria and with egg on its face for proclaiming a red line that turned out to be meaningless.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/08/the-sources-of-obamas-tragic-syria-policy.php

August 24th, 2013, 12:31 am

 

Ziad said:

Voltaire network shows the fakeries of cw attack videos uploaded to youtube.

Sarin Gas : a new propaganda campaign against Syria

This propaganda operation is grotesque: as everyone can observe on YouTube, the video evidence of the massacre of August 21st having been posted by the “Majles Rif” account … the day before, on August 20th . On these videos, shocking at first, one quickly detects a setup: the wounded children appear haggard or drugged, do not have parents who accompany them. Boys are often naked, while the girls are all dressed. We see no hospital structure, not even a clandestine one, except screens and pockets of serum.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article179900.html

August 24th, 2013, 12:32 am

 

sf94123 said:

someone wrote:
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August 24th, 2013, 1:14 am

 

sf94123 said:

From Arabtimes:
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August 24th, 2013, 1:19 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Only a coward will object to importing masks to a country that being gassed by its own criminal mafia regime . Zouzou’s cowardly remarks about “smuggling” masks just goes to demonstrate the level of depravity of regimists, who try to infuse words like “smuggling” in order to give a connotation of “illegality” the act of attempting to save people from the murderous buffoon of Damascus and its hyenas. This is exactly the kind of criminal sophistry these marauders learn from ther “hero” chemical assad .

Some people murder with words, and the callous regimist on SC and their handlers are plain killers.

And then we have yet another worm who now attacks a bereaved and angry father and accuse the man of faking his anger over the death if his child. How low can one sink, how low. I guess one has to read the regimists on this site to know how ugly can pretenders to humanity be.

August 24th, 2013, 2:22 am

 

ALI said:

Hamster

It’s the fault of the terrorists and what called “opposition” that Syria can’t conduct import/export properly and people are starving.

If those idiots did not try to disobey the law and challenge the God’s will representing in al-ASSAd, everybody would be living in happiness, security and peace.

But yeah if you knock at the door you surely will get a response.

August 24th, 2013, 2:44 am

 

ALI said:

and yeas that was a fake father, I don’t think a real father will have some time to conduct media interviews and trying to put a show on youtube.

you want to see a real father, go check Hamza Alkhatieb’s father who was brave enough to admit that his son was an armed thug, drunk and after raping women. That’s how real fathers talk

August 24th, 2013, 2:47 am

 

ALI said:

Surrendering is the only magic solution to the current situation.

you all must come and kiss al-ASSAD’s shoe

I personally ready to put his shoe on my head

August 24th, 2013, 2:50 am

 

Hopeful said:

#1241 Zoo

“I am sick in my stomach because these innocents are victims of a conflict the opposition repeatedly refuse to stop”

No Zoo, these innocents are victims of a chemical attack. Pure and simple. Whoever did it must be brought to justice. No need for “laf wa dawaran”

August 24th, 2013, 2:59 am

 

Alan said:

The facts are confirmed that the United States/NATO backed terrorists are indeed using chemical weapons, Russia and China should supply to the Syrian government the latest and most lethal weapons systems in order to bring this conflict to a conclusion before the wide spread use of these weapons are used against civilian targets by the terrorists. The international community should hold those countries that have supported with war materials and financial aid to the terrorists responsible for these criminal acts and demand that UN sanctions both economic and military be placed on those countries supporting mass murder. These actors are war criminals and deserve the distain of the international community.

Chemical warhead targeted eastern suburbs of Syria’s Damascus – Russian Foreign Ministry
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_08_21/Chemical-warhead-was-launched-from-eastern-suburbs-of-Syrias-Damascus-Russian-Foreign-Ministry-0718/
http://youtu.be/fXezs1YY01I

August 24th, 2013, 3:20 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Hopeful
without ““laf wa dawaran” zouzou loses its credibility with its handlers in nus-lira gangs and aoun’s buffoons. Sophistry is the name of the game for them. It is a lesson learnt from iranian regime propaganda, which, next to dog-poop chemical athad , is known for the second most nauseating sophistry blather. zouzou’z previous incarnations all attest to such pathetic sophistry.

I’ll take Ali’s authentic tashbee7 as being far more genuine than zouzou’s nus-lira-aounite fake indignation. Ali’s propaganda kitchen is authentic regime-base broohaha, zouzou’s and the other sectarian thugs’ and trolls kitchen is somewhere in qum’s radical sewer.

August 24th, 2013, 3:54 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Ali
You trickster, it will be hard to know which is your head and which is the shoe…but you have to take the shoe first from your behind before you place it back on your neck.

August 24th, 2013, 4:27 am

 
 

omen said:

re cbs reports of potential missile strikes.

i don’t buy it.

August 24th, 2013, 5:27 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

authroatative Alan, the facts are confirmed

By whom.. iran? russia? or nus-lira, better yet, aoun’s own huge military intelligence (an oxymoron)?

may be by the dog-poop athad electrochemical army.. so fond of childplay hacking to make pihrric victories.

But according to very well connected dog-poop athad sniffer extraordinaire raifq lutf, the facts are that the USA did the massacre from airplanes (ghost airplanes) flying 46 km high, and the secret operation was discovered by the chinese hackers who without the help of the dog-poop inept electrochemical army (still a slipper army) could not have tapped into the white house and NASA’s computer (notice a single computer) and get the plans for the operation and the schematic of the super-super airplane (told you, dog-poop sniffers have access to so many secrets, it is scary). So, i guess by tradition of being bold-face liars, all regimists’, including Alan’s facts would be would be as confirmed as the above BS from the dumb-jack-ass lutf.

Now lutf claims that its facebook account has been hacked. Funny, may be Alan itself was hacked.

August 24th, 2013, 6:59 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

OMEN
Brilliant, and real professor of political science, Hani Al-Sayed wrote extensively yesterday about Martyr Omar Aziz. Who was a brilliant light in the life of this revolution to a point that dog-poop athad hyenas had to murder him in order to vacate space for their hand-made terrorists of Nusra and ISIS. Murdering real solid political activists is something of course condoned and encouraged by the likes of zouzou, alan, donann, the torll, ziad and the rest of the dog-poop chemical athad sniffing trolls and cowardly, yet confident of facts supporters of genocide. I wouldn’t be surprised if hardly-a-massacre was one of those who celebrated the murder of Aziz in their new trendy mall.

August 24th, 2013, 7:11 am

 

omen said:

1275. zoo said:
The search for answers in Damascus is elusive, even for reporters on the ground

While most experts have stopped short of questioning the authenticity of footage from Wednesday’s apparent chemical weapons attack, there is a general agreement that a lot of unverifiable information is floating around.

“We are basing almost everything on the use of video and on opposition reports,” Prof. Landis said. “There have been tons of bad reports coming out of Syria. There’s a lot of exaggeration, lots of videos that have been falsified.”

sorry to burst your bubble.

Networks of Spies Aid Syria Gas Probe

Adding to the evidence are video images of the attack obtained by Western officials through spy channels, which corroborate the public videos of the incident available on the Internet. Those nonpublic videos confirm the time and the extent of the attack, and have allowed officials to rule out that the event was staged by rebels.

August 24th, 2013, 7:16 am

 

Tara said:

Can’t imagine how you live with yourself anymore still defending the regime.

http://www.aljazeera.net/File/GetImageCustom/644ab0b7-6d5b-4824-bffa-6422180ad535/667/501

August 24th, 2013, 7:17 am

 

zoo said:

Rowhani says chemical weapons use in Syria
2013-08-24 13:01
http://www.news24.com/World/News/Rowhani-says-chemical-weapons-use-in-Syria-20130824

Tehran – Iranian President Hassan Rowhani on Saturday pointed to the use of chemical weapons in Syria, three days after they allegedly killed hundreds of people in attacks near Damascus.

“The Islamic republic of Iran, which was the victim of chemical weapons, asks the international community to do everything to stop the use of these weapons anywhere in the world,” Rowhani said.

The president did not say who might be responsible for the use of chemical weapons, but Iran’s foreign ministry rejected claims the Syrian regime, its chief regional ally, had deployed chemical weapons, saying if such an attack were proven rebels would be responsible.

August 24th, 2013, 7:24 am

 

zoo said:

#1313 Omen

Then neither the UN nor Joshua Landis read the WSJ…

August 24th, 2013, 7:26 am

 

zoo said:

@1306 Omen

There will be more victims on both sides if the opposition keeps refusing to negotiate a stop to this devastating war.

Since the time they have officially rejected their participation I consider them and their allies as fully responsible for the escalation and for all of the death resulting from chemical weapons, bombings, mortars, rockets, murders and suicide bombers.

August 24th, 2013, 7:33 am

 

zoo said:

Majed

“They all demand that Assad should be disciplined”

Funny, I never read that anywhere… What I read is that the Arab World is politely asking Bashar al Assad to allow the UN inspections in the area. The Syrian government is studying with the UN how to ensure the safety of the inspectors in entering a war zone.

As the area in under “rebels’ control, maybe the Arab leaders should also get the explicit approval of the local rebel commanders.
We all know that the declaration of the Turkish based SNC is just propaganda and hot air as they have no power whatsoever on the local militias. FSA’s Idriss has remained silent and Moqdad has resigned.

August 24th, 2013, 7:50 am

 

omen said:

1091. majedkhaldoun said:

The use of Chemical weapons is a flagrant international crime subject to international humanitarian law and the customary international law , both Russia and China have signed for them and can not veto them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_humanitarian_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1674

also:

Rogue state actively engaged in mass chemical attacks anywhere constitutes direct threat to US security & interests. Unilateralism justified.

August 24th, 2013, 7:52 am

 

Uzair8 said:

The following portion of an AJE Syria blog update echoes my theory #6 posted earlier.

But do check out the entire update:

Update from about 17 hrs ago:

[…]

While the preliminary US assessment was that Assad loyalists carried out Wednesday’s chemical attack with high level authorization, one US source closely monitoring events in the region said it was also possible that a local commander decided on his own to use gas in advance of a ground assault.

The commander may have been under pressure from top echelons to clear rebels from the area and protect his own troops against rebel counter-attacks, the source said.

[…]

August 24th, 2013, 8:45 am

 

Uzair8 said:

The Iranian Foreign Ministry was taking the Assad regime line on the chemical use however now President Rouhani seems to be taking a different line. He’s recalling Iran being a past victim of chems and has asked the international community to spare no effort in preventing their use. He also hasn’t blamed either side for responsibility.

It seems the Iranains may be positioning themselves for the possibility of Assad regime being responsible for the incident.

August 24th, 2013, 9:10 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

First Russia admitted the use of CW, now Persia admiting its use,both want investigation to proceed, but Assad regime is preveting such investigation, because it will incriminate him.

Assad supporters are very scared now,all their arguments don’t make sense,,they know Assad committed suicide,by using CW,Long time ago I said you make mistake you lose, Assad is losing.

Now Assad is trying to burn Lebanon,bombing two mosques in Tripoli, Hassan Nasrallah is realizing the size of the pit he is in, but there is no way out ,too late

Two Assad aircrafts were downed in Jobar today, Assad has used all what he can, all the weapons he has, the army the airforce , missiles and now CW what else he has to to use ? NOTHING else, he failed to crush this great revolution.
This revolution is the greatest revolution, the pride of all revolutions, in our anthem we say ??? ??? ?????

August 24th, 2013, 9:19 am

 

zoo said:

Iran says ‘proof’ Syria rebels used chemical weapons
AFP 1 hour 35 minutes ago

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/iran-says-proof-syria-rebels-used-chemical-weapons-114613406.html#0EG1CwO

Iran, the chief regional ally of Damascus, said on Saturday there is “proof” Syrian rebels used chemical weapons in their conflict with the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

“We are very concerned about information regarding the use of chemical weapons in Syria, and we strongly condemn the use of such weapons,” foreign ministry spokesman Abbas Araqchi said, quoted by ISNA news agency.

“There is proof terrorist groups carried out this action,” Araqchi said in reference to Wednesday’s allegedly deadly attacks in the Damascus area, without elaborating.

Iran also warned against any Western military intervention in the 29-month conflict, after the United States suggested it was weighing up such a possibility.

“There is no international authorisation for a military intervention in Syria. We warn against any actions or statements that could create more tension in the region. I hope that White House officials show enough wisdom not to enter into such dangerous tumult,” Araqchi added.

August 24th, 2013, 9:24 am

 

zoo said:

There are no concrete evidence except a massive production of heart breaking videos of killed children without parents around and a notable absence of videos showing rocket impacts or canisters.

Yet, UK, France and the USA keep saying that they are ‘almost’ sure that the Syrian government launched the rockets with chemical weapons.
When will the Saudi organize at the UN a “Colin Powell” type of presentation where they will show the irrefutable spy-satellite drawings of the movement of the Syrian Army’s mobile trucks carrying the chemical rockets to convince the UN that a military strike is inevitable?

August 24th, 2013, 9:42 am

 

zoo said:

It looks like the terrorists will miss their daily ration of Captagon.

Lebanese authorities stop six trucks filled with drugs

SAAD NAE’L, Lebanon, Aug. 24 (UPI) — Lebanese authorities Saturday stopped six trucks allegedly trying to smuggle large amounts of Captagon into Syria, officials said.

The trucks were stopped in Saad Nae’l town in Bekaa, Syria’s official SANA news agency reported.

“The Captagon tablets were hidden inside the chassis of the 6 trucks. … We stopped a car that was accompanying those trucks with three Syrians inside,” a security official said.

Captagon contains fenethylline, a stimulant that is most common in Arab countries.

The three Syrians, identified as Abdel Rahman Khaled Srour, 21, Sabei Adnan Srour, 27 and Yehya Mahmoud al-Mkahhal, 51, were arrested at the scene, The (Beirut) Daily Star reported.

In March, security authorities seized more than 1 million Captagon pills in a valley in the Bekaa region, Naharnet reported. Officials said that seizure was worth millions of U.S. dollars.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2013/08/24/Lebanese-authorities-stop-six-trucks-filled-with-drugs/UPI-66471377351598/#ixzz2ctW75FaT

August 24th, 2013, 9:51 am

 

zoo said:

Sabra the thug will get a “unite then we’ll talk” from Canada
Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird favours no outside force despite likely chemical attack in Syria

http://www.citynews.ca/2013/08/24/baird-favours-no-outside-force-despite-likely-chemical-attack-in-syria/

Baird’s message of political parley may fall on deaf ears when he meets with the head of Syria’s main Western-backed opposition group.

George Sabra, president of the Syrian National Council, is expected to visit Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa next week. Following the deadly attacks in which he alleges that the Syrian government used nerve gas against its own population, Sabra has dismissed any hope for a political solution to end the bloodshed in his country.

August 24th, 2013, 9:56 am

 

zoo said:

Syrian army finds chemical agents in rebel hideout: State TV

Published Saturday, August 24, 2013
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/syrian-army-finds-chemical-agents-rebel-hideout-state-tv

Syrian state television said government soldiers found chemical agents in rebel tunnels in the Damascus suburb of Jobar on Saturday and some of the troops were suffocating.

“Army heroes are entering the tunnels of the terrorists and saw chemical agents,” state television quoted a source as saying. “In some cases, soldiers are suffocating while entering Jobar,” it said.

“Ambulances came to rescue the people who were suffocating in Jobar,” it said, adding that an army unit was preparing to storm the suburb where rebels fighting to oust President Bashar al-Assad are based.

August 24th, 2013, 10:00 am

 

Observer said:

well well, from denying that CW were used to admitting their use, to the new story that the rebels used them, to the news from Cham Press that
1. They found antidotes in the tunnels of Jobar
2. That SAA slipper soldiers were suffocating in Jobar after they entered it and are being treated
3. Russia saying that the satellite images show the missiles coming from the rebel areas
So, why not call for a truce and let the chemical weapons experts enter Jobar and Moudamieh and Zamalka? Surely the rebels who according to rev are losing and they would welcome a respite, no?

What are you afraid of?

Also, I really think that schizophrenia is on full display here

zoozoo says that Obama will not intervene and then he says that the West should intervene on the side of Assad against the Islamists.

He says that the salvation of the West is the non islamist SAA

And then in another fantastical imagined scenario he claims that the Israelis will do the strike as they are afraid the chemical weapons will fall into the hands of the rebels.

So what is it then? Do the rebels have chemical weapons or not? If they have them then the cruise missiles should hit them; right zoo zoo? If they do not have them, then should the slipper army deliver them to the UN? Or should they keep them? if they are to keep them, should there be a UN team to protect them? Now that the chemical weapons were used in an offensive role and against civilians, they are no longer a deterrent force. Once you use them you lose the deterrence. It means that if they were to be used against Israel by whoever, Syria will be nuked to smithereens.

Also, once you use them and the word get out that they were used in a massive way, in contrast to their use on a small scale in areas where the fighting had previously depopulated the battle field, you now have the world to see the atrocities; you are bound to let investigators and to allow for an independent inquiry. Not even Russia can prevent that. If you do not you lose the narrative as the regime lies through its teeth day in and day out. Even regime supporters are completely silent. Why don’t you go and read and watch Manar and how it has changed its stories nearly by the hour to try to obfuscate the use of chemical weapons?

Why not watch Al Alam where you find the reporting has shifter to Bahrain?

Russia now is in damage control mode, it is quilting a story of rebels in possession of chemical weapons and of Damascus infiltrated with Jordanian and CIA and Israeli commandos. Even Iran is admitting of chemical weapons use and is threatening a ME wide war.

I agree with Syrian Hamster that the degree of depravity that the pro regime trolls have shown is truly despicable. The French word execrable is better even.

However, what needs to happen now is a measure of reassurance to the minorities that have been forced to support the mafia by his terrorizing them that their fate and his are tied together that it will not be so. Minorities that defect now will be protected and regime elements that stay on board will be brought to the Hague for crimes against humanity.

As for celebrations in Baramkeh and Mezzeh 86 I wish Mjabali was here to explain his position on that one. I know that he deplores it, but his credibility will go a long way if he were to voice that outrage for ALL Syrians.

August 24th, 2013, 10:04 am

 

revenire said:

No truce Observer. No respite in our attacks.

August 24th, 2013, 10:06 am

 

zoo said:

Happy days in post-revolution Libya and Yeman continue. These are the success stories of Qatar and Saudi Arabia’s brilliant ‘diplomacy’

Libya Moving From Arab Spring To Arab Winter

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article41992.html

While most media remains fixated on Egypt’s accelerating breakdown away from a centrally governed state to a form of rule by “popular street committees”, Libya has already moved far down the same one-way track without this being acknowledged by Western media. As we shall likely see, at least in Libya if not Egypt – due to Egypt’s size – the Yemen scenario covers what can be called the Post National State, in the Islamic Crescent of Instability.

YEMENITE SCENARIO?
Yemen is in all-out Arab Winter and is a major focus of the USA’s drone war – and the power base of AQAP or Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. Due to AQAP’s persistence in Yemen, and the drone war being increasingly admitted as counterproductive due to the large number of “collateral” victims, US policymakers are being forced to rethink strategy against the group. This has meant the only possible strategy of facilitating the long-term expansion of Yemeni security forces and government services to areas where al-Qaida’s influence is most developed.

August 24th, 2013, 10:11 am

 

zoo said:

Observer

“However, what needs to happen now is a measure of reassurance to the minorities”

Oh yes! Jarba and Sabra, the SNC sopranos, will sing Schubert’s Ave Maria in duo. That will surely convince the minorities to join Al Nusra..

August 24th, 2013, 10:23 am

 

zoo said:

Chemical “attack”: The last and desperate card of the embattled terrorist rebels in Jobar areas trying to delay the SAA’s final assaults that will dislodge them and free the civilians they use as human shields

DAMASCUS, Syria — Syrian state media accused rebels of using chemical arms on Saturday against government troops trying to storm a contested neighborhood of Damascus, claiming a major army offensive in recent days had forced the opposition fighters to resort to such weapons “as their last card.”

State TV broadcast images of plastic jugs, gas masks, vials of an unspecified medication, explosives and other items that it said were seized from rebel hideouts. It did not, however, show any video of soldiers reportedly affected by toxic gas in the fighting in the Jobar neighborhood of Damascus.
Still, the claims could muddy the debate about who was responsible for an alleged gas attack on rebel-held suburbs of the capital on Wednesday that activists say killed more than 130 people. That attack has spurred demands for an independent investigation and renewed talk of potential international military action if chemical weapons were indeed used. –
– See more at: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/international/middle_east/2013/08/syria_accuses_rebels_of_using_chemical_weapons#sthash.BYzR22NB.dpuf

August 24th, 2013, 10:33 am

 

zoo said:

Please Obama, don’t sadden Erdogan, he is oversensitive and he cries easily these days. Davutoglu is scolding the USA for that

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-pm-erdogan-rebuffs-us-for-strong-reaction-to-his-israel-comments.aspx?pageID=238&nID=53159&NewsCatID=338


The United States should not have responded to his comments regarding Israel’s role on the military takeover in Egypt this week, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an has said Aug. 24, adding that he had been “saddened” by the White House’s reaction.

Following Earnest’s remarks, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davuto?lu had held talks with officials in Washington and said that Turkey did not wish to be criticized by the U.S. for statements regarding a third country.

Erdo?an said that the White House’s reaction showed the “doubled standard of the world.”
..
Erdo?an said that Turkey had a “historical responsibility” towards Egyptians and Syrians who fought together with Turks in the Ottoman Army.

“We have a duty of loyalty towards Egypt, Palestine and Syria. Those who say ‘why do we care’ would betray its history, its civilization, its ancestors and martyrs,” he said.

August 24th, 2013, 10:39 am

 

zoo said:

A slap on Qatar and Turkey’s face. It seems that Hafez al Assad was 30 years ahead when he gave them a brutal blow that had them leave Syria

The Muslim Brotherhood is on the run

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/the-muslim-brotherhood-is-on-the-run.aspx?pageID=449&nID=53113&NewsCatID=396

The Brotherhood had seen Egypt as a bulwark in the attempt to Islamize the Middle East. It wanted to make Egypt, the region’s biggest state with its largest military, a model Islamic society. The problem was that Egyptians Muslims felt patronized by the Brotherhood’s attempts to tell them about how best to be a Muslim.

The party now has little chance of a comeback. The brutality with which its protests have been put down, the enthusiasm with which the army’s actions have been received both in Egypt and in most other states in the region and the reluctance on the part of the United States and the European Union to cut off aid and links with the new government, have for now condemned the Brotherhood to impotence. Prime Minister Hazem el-Beblawi, told ABC News that he doesn’t fear civil war. He is likely to be right: the Brotherhood is not in fighting shape.

August 24th, 2013, 10:53 am

 

omen said:

1276. Tara said: Reports say chemical weapons were used in Ghouta towns of Irbin, Jobar, Zamalka, and Ein Tarma as well as Muadhamiya in the western Ghouta,

1330. zoo said: The last and desperate card of the embattled terrorist rebels in Jobar areas

speaking of which:

Many reports of a number of regime soldiers defecting in Jobar.

August 24th, 2013, 11:30 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Who the hell these Abdel Rahman Khaled Srour, Sabei Adnan Srour, and Yehya Mahmoud al-Mkahhal, think they are to step on saint theressa makhroof, dog-poop chemical athad, and nus-lira drug trade. True, Assef Shwakat was blown up and big-sissy (drug-over-lord of syria) bushra is out of the country, but it doesn’t mean that anyone can step in on the family business. Good riddance, these three guys deserve what’s coming to them. Didn’t heed Ali’s repetitive warnings that what belongs to <dog-poops athads (all of them) should remain in the dog-poops athads hands and that crime should be left to this mafia and its nus-lira hizbos terrorists . Ever heard (??? ??????? ??? ??? ???????) ? although in dog-poop chemical athad case, any neck-based proverb would carry a “special meaning”

We do appreciate zouzou informing us that with their friends in Lebanon (meaning dog-tails), the dog-poops athads are firmly in control of the family business. No wonder zouzou found the news important and informative.

August 24th, 2013, 11:33 am

 

ghufran said:

Throughout the 20th century sectarian relations in Iraq — and to varying degrees in Lebanon, Syria, and Bahrain as well — were framed through the prisms of the nation-state, ethnicity and national rather than religious inclusion or exclusion. A glaring exception, as already mentioned, was Saudi Arabia where sectarian identity and sectarian exclusion has always been, first and foremost, an issue of religion and religious doctrine.
Since 2003 however, the “Saudi exception” seems to be increasingly turning into the Middle Eastern rule. Today sectarian otherness in the Middle East is no longer framed in primarily ethnic or national terms but in starkly religious ones: where previously an Arab nationalist-influenced anti-Shiite discourse questioned the Shiites’ ethnic and nationalist pedigree by referring to them as ajam, today a Salafi-influenced discourse questions Shiites’ doctrines, religious beliefs, and ultimately their belonging to the Islamic world by referring to them as rafidha. This shift from ethnic or national exclusion to religious exclusion can potentially turn sectarian competition — never pleasant even at the best of times — into something far more divisive and intractable than anything witnessed in the history of the Arab nation-state.

(Fanar Haddad is Research Fellow at the Middle East Institute, National University of Singapore.read the article at: http://www.mideast.foreignpolicy.com)

August 24th, 2013, 12:17 pm

 

apple_mini said:

The Syrian government should immediately secure the perimeter where they found suspicious CW site used by the rebels.

Meanwhile, UN inspectors need to launch their investigation on impartial basis and provide reports to the world.

If indeed the rebels had used those toxic gas, Syrian government and other countries which really care about humanity should press UNSC to stop Saudi, Turkey, Qatar and other countries from providing weapons and fund to those Islmaic militants in Syria.

Hope Russia and China will not waste any time for an emergency UNSC meeting.

Syria Hamster, the way you use those denigrating words with “dog” in them is an indication of Rabies. The people around you should have you checked out asap.

August 24th, 2013, 12:25 pm

 

Hopeful said:

#1325 Zoo

“Syrian army finds chemical agents in rebel hideout: State TV”

Funny that they only found them now. Hasn’t the army been “smoking the terrorists” out for two years now? How come they did not find any agents before?

August 24th, 2013, 12:25 pm

 

Ziad said:

Propaganda Overdrive Suggests Syria War Coming Soon

With recent reports of a chemical weapons attack having taken place inside Syria, and with Western governments such as the United States, Britain, and France foaming at the mouth to take some type of decisive action against the embattled nation, it is important to investigate the claims being made, the individuals and organizations making such claims, and the relevant information surrounding the attacks which might contradict the narrative being force-fed to the Western public by mainstream corporate media outlets.

For instance, while the typical narrative coming from the majority of mainstream media outlets such as NPR,[1] the Wall Street Journal,[2] CNN,[3]and the New York Daily News clearly implies that Bashar al-Assad was most likely the guilty party behind the attacks, the reasons to not only question the claims in this regard but to actually believe the opposite are legion.

Indeed, in predictable fashion, the United States government is now claiming[4] that is has “strong indications” that chemical weapons have been used and that the culprit was “clearly [by] the government.” Such propaganda, of course, hearkens back to the days of “Incubator Babies” and “Weapons of Mass Destruction” in Iraq.

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/propaganda-overdrive-suggests-syria-war.html

August 24th, 2013, 12:44 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

I am waiting for the dog-poop chemical athad sniffers to post the “regim’s tv” new comedy titled: The Barrel that was made in Saudi”

The regime’s insistence on discovering the “lab” shows that it was
dog-poop chemical athad deed.

??? ?????? ?? ???? ?????

August 24th, 2013, 12:53 pm

 

omen said:

funny

Hey pro-bashars that support Sisi, Saudi also supports him, so does America. Don’t you feel weird now?

August 24th, 2013, 1:07 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Ziad, I read the article you provided and I learned at least one thing.

The author calls the rebels aka “freedom fighters” death squad.

I actually find it very accurate and I believe it grasps the essence of the true nature of those Islamic militants.

They are here in Syria to kill. When it was captured SAA personnel, the death squad kill them by beheading, summary execution and occasional cannibalism.

When it was civilians considered rafidha, the death squad massacre them then loot their properties.

Yes, they are indeed death squad.

August 24th, 2013, 1:10 pm

 

Ziad said:

Erdogan’s policy on Syria counterproductive (Can Turkish leaders ever be trusted?

Turkey’s policy is being smashed apart. It has no depth, no vision, no principle and no morality. It is not just a case of muddle or a failure of cynical opportunism. Rather, it is something which is completely inexplicable without there having been some sort of big bribe (probably of the “We will make you the regional big-wig” variety) for Erdogan, the Prime Minister.

Turkey had a clear, simple policy – be friends with all neighbors. It was a very sensible policy and, as a result, Turkey was able to build its economic and political strength and was increasingly being recognized as a regional leader. (Remember the deal arranged between Turkey, Brazil and Iran over 20% uranium enrichment which made Obama look like a fool, as he is?)
Importantly, Turkey was also seen as a successful example of how Islam and politics can integrate in a modern way.
But now look what has happened! History has many examples of countries, led by incompetent prime ministers, shooting themselves in the foot. However, in the case of Turkey, it’s an instance of shooting itself in both feet.

http://www.gagrule.net/?p=8923

August 24th, 2013, 1:13 pm

 

ghufran said:

This is from an article by Alex Fishman-a prominent Israeli writer on security and military issues, I hope the ignorant among you learn something from it:

Every day, some 400-500 people are killed in the countries surrounding us. In Tripoli, Lebanon, daily fighting takes place between the neighborhoods of Jabal Mohsen and Bab-al-Tabani. Heavy machine guns, anti-tank cannons. Last week, 30 people were killed there and 200 were injured. In Sidon, pro-Syrian Nasseristic militias battle Sunni movements. The Lebanese government is paralyzed and Hezbollah’s political status is wearing out.
In Syria, 80 people are killed on a weak day of fighting. The Kurds in northeast Syria have broken off from the state. In the an-Nusayriyah Mountains, the Alawites’ place of residence, preparations are underway for the establishment of an independent state. In the Mountain of the Druze, a million and a half Druze are arming themselves for fear of a Salafi revenge. The center of the country is in chaos: Several hundred militias of all types are fighting the Syrian army, the regime’s militias, against Shiite Iraqi groups and against Hezbollah. By the end of the year, 20% of Jordan’s residents will be Syrian refugees, with all economic and social consequences.
Among the Palestinians there is no solution in sight for the rift between Hamas and the PA. Egypt is in economic-constitutional chaos, and on the streets there is anarchy. The Muslims are attacking Copts, the Muslim Brotherhood is fighting Salafis, and in Sinai the Bedouins are fighting the army. What troubles the Egyptians most of all is the fact that Ethiopia is building a dam on the Blue Nile, which supplies 80% of Egypt’s water. As far as Egypt is concerned, this is grounds for war. The crisis with Israel is marginal compared to the water crisis.
In Libya, the tribes and militias are slaughtering each other. There, bodies are no longer being counted. Tunisia’s big cities enter a state of curfew every evening. Tunisian soldiers are killed while fighting Salafis on the border with Algeria.
Iraq is already divided into three, and the civil war is resuming there in full force. In the south there is a Shiite, pro-Iranian government, headed by Maliki, while the center of the country is controlled by the Sunnis, with armed militias fighting the central regime. There are hundreds of casualties, abductions and murders every week. The Kurds in the north are already producing and selling oil independently, without paying royalties to the government.
And we have yet to mention what is happening in Somalia, in Chad, in Sudan, in Aden, in Bahrain. For two years now, the Arab world has been burning and destroying itself without any external intervention, and this could continue for many more years.
So why should we, because of a few restless generals and a trigger-happy prime minister, give them a reason to unite around the only common denominator they have – hatred towards Israel? Let them kill themselves quietly. The Lebanon-bound weapons are dangerous, but are not an existential threat. It’s not the Iranian bomb.

August 24th, 2013, 1:15 pm

 

Ziad said:


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http://shamtimes.net/news_de1.php?PartsID=1&NewsID=10370

August 24th, 2013, 2:03 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Three truck drivers got intercepted by a bunch of death squad members from isil near Syrian border in Iraq. After the death squad found out those drivers were not Sunni, they were executed on the spot on the roadside.

Sometimes it is so hard to accept the idea that those death squad are humans. Even animals are more humane because they do not kill in the name of their god. What a backward and vile religion!

At one vegetable market, three vendors from Tartous wanted to be part of the market, their throats got slit right at the market. The perpetrators never been found even though so many local vendors saw them.

One of the reasons some opposition claimed for the revolt is the Sunni majority in Syria are oppressed by the minority Alawites. Those soulless and heartless liars.

August 24th, 2013, 2:06 pm

 

Tara said:

It is laughable when hardly a human tries hard to produce hardly intellectual analysis.

August 24th, 2013, 2:07 pm

 

revenire said:

Meanwhile, on Aug. 19, in Ghouta, more than 50 local opposition fighters and their commanders laid down their arms and switched sides. A few prominent local leaders widely associated with the opposition went on Syrian TV. They denounced the jihadists and their crimes against the local population, and stressed that the Assad administration was the real guardian of the people and their interests. More than a dozen ex-rebels joined the Syrian Government forces.

Hence, the last thing the Assad administration would do is commit atrocities against the Ghouta area and the local population which had just changed sides so dramatically. For the opposition, fiercely avenging such a betrayal and petrifying other would-be traitors is a must. Furthermore, in view of the failure of the march on Daraa and Damascus by the CIA’s FSA forces, there was an urgent imperative for the opposition to provoke a Western military intervention before the rebellion collapsed completely, and Assad consolidated victory.

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/08/22/sarajevo-1995-and-damascus-2013-the-use-of-mass-attack-deception-to-decide-wars/

August 24th, 2013, 2:12 pm

 

zoo said:

Omen

The only way Saudi Arabia is supporting Egypt is rewarding them financially for having locked up the leaders and annihilated the Moslem Brotherhood who were threatening the UAE and KSA.
Al Sisi will not be a puppet of the Saudi, he is cracking down on Salafists (wahhabis) too and will open up to Syria and Iran soon.

Didn’t you feel weird when Iran supported Morsi?

August 24th, 2013, 2:24 pm

 

zoo said:

Death toll lowered from 1300 to 322-355.
Jarba’s hot air: The SNC has authority on the rebels and terrorists in Ghuta

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/doctors-without-borders/789272.html

Syrian state media accused rebels of using chemical arms against government troops in clashes Saturday near Damascus, while an international aid group said it has tallied 355 deaths from the purported chemical weapons attack earlier this week. Doctors Without Borders said three hospitals it supports in the eastern Damascus region reported receiving roughly 3,600 patients with “neurotoxic symptoms” over less than three hours on Wednesday morning, when the attack in the eastern Ghouta area took place.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/RestOfAsia/355-dead-after-Syria-chemical-attack-NGO/Article1-1112512.aspx
..
On Friday, Syria’s main opposition National Coalition pledged to guarantee the safety of the inspectors but warned that the “clock is ticking” before alleged evidence vanishes.

Coalition chief Ahmad al-Jarba was scheduled to hold a news conference on the issue in Istanbul later on Saturday.

Syria has yet to say if it will let the UN experts – on the ground in Syria since August 18 to probe three other sites – to inspect the latest allegations.

August 24th, 2013, 2:28 pm

 

zoo said:

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0824/Syria-Doctors-Without-Borders-reports-355-dead-from-chemical-attack

The Lebanon-based Al-Mayadeen TV, that has a reporter embedded with the troops in the area, said some 50 soldiers were rushed to Damascus hospitals for treatment and that it was not yet known what type of gas the troops were subjected too.
….

“The Syrian Army achieved major progress in the past days and for that reason, the terrorist groups used chemical weapons as their last card,” state TV said. The government refers to rebels fighting to topple Assad as “terrorists.”

The report was followed by an unusual string of breaking alerts on the TV’s news scroll Saturday, with a series of claims related to the alleged use of chemical arms by rebels in Jobar.

One message cited a Syrian TV journalist who is embedded with the troops in the district who said the army confiscated an arms cache that included gas masks and several barrels with “made in Saudi Arabia” stamped on them. It did not say what was in the barrels, but appeared to suggest that some sort of chemical agent was inside and supplied by Saudi Arabia, the region’s Sunni Muslim power and a staunch supporter of Syria’s Sunni-led revolt.

Another news scroll said that troops, after overrunning rebel positions, discovered antidotes following exposure to chemical agents. The TV said the medicines were produced by a Qatari-German medical supplies company. Qatar is another strong supporter of the Syrian rebels. The report could not be immediately verified.

State TV also broadcast images of a Syrian army officer, wearing a surgical mask, telling reporters wearing similar masks that soldiers were subjected to poisonous attack in Jobar. He spoke inside the depot where the alleged confiscated products were placed.

“Our troops did not suffer body wounds,” said the officer said. “I believe terrorist groups used special substances that are poisonous in an attempt to affect this advance.”

The Lebanon-based Al-Mayadeen TV, that has a reporter embedded with the troops in the area, said some 50 soldiers were rushed to Damascus hospitals for treatment and that it was not yet known what type of gas the troops were subjected too.
…Leaders of the main Western-backed Syrian opposition group on Saturday vowed retaliation for the alleged chemical weapons attack.

From Istanbul, the head of the Syrian National Coalition, Ahmad Al-Jarba, also criticized the lack of response to the attack by the United Nations and the international community, saying that the UN was discrediting itself.

“It does not reach the ethical and legal response that Syrians expect. As a matter of fact we can describe it as a shame,” he said.

August 24th, 2013, 2:35 pm

 

zoo said:

1302. SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

“Only a coward will object to importing masks to a country that being gassed by its own criminal mafia regime .”

Write a letter to the Lebanese army and tell them that they are cowards. They are the ones who stopped the 3 trucks smuggling gas masks in Syria.

August 24th, 2013, 2:38 pm

 

revenire said:

On Aug. 21, the Syrian opposition announced a massive chemical attack in Ghouta which allegedly inflicted about 1,300 fatalities including hundreds of children. As in previous chemical attacks blamed on the Assad administration, the attackers used the ubiquitous Sarin nerve gas. Immediately, the opposition flooded Western media with pictures of the dead, but provided no conclusive evidence about the attack and the perpetrators.

Moreover, initial opposition reports claimed the attack was conducted by a barrage of rockets. Subsequently, in the context of renewed outcries for a No Fly Zone, the opposition claimed that the chemical attack was a part of a massive bombing by the Syrian Air Force. Yet, the opposition’s pictures show no casualties suffering shrapnel wounds associated with aerial bombing. Stern denials by the Syrian Government of any involvement in the attack were largely ignored by the West. At the time of writing, the UN expert delegation and foreign diplomats were denied access to the attack site by the opposition forces ostensibly because of fear for their safety.

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/08/22/sarajevo-1995-and-damascus-2013-the-use-of-mass-attack-deception-to-decide-wars/

August 24th, 2013, 2:47 pm

 

zoo said:

A second hand and biased information?

The NGO Doctors without borders’ information is a second hand information provided by the pro-opposition doctors in the area under rebel control

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/French-medical-charity-reports-355-deaths-in-alleged-Syria-chemical-weapons-attack-324130

MSF has no staff of its own in the Damascus region, but has been supporting hospitals and medical networks there since 2012.

August 24th, 2013, 2:50 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria will let UN inspectors probe chemical attack: FM

[ 24 August 2013 23:51 ]

Baku-APA. Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem says Damascus will provide the UN team with access to the site of the recent alleged chemical attack in the country, APA reports quoting Press TV.

In a telephone conversation with his Iranian counterpart, Mohammad Javad Zarif, on Saturday, al-Muallem added that his respective country has cooperated with the UN team of chemical experts present in the country.

He added that Damascus is now holding talks with the UN inspectors on the access to the site of the alleged chemical attack.

Al-Muallem categorically rejected the allegation that the Damascus government has used chemical weapons, describing the claim as a new ploy by the enemies of the Syrian government and nation.

August 24th, 2013, 2:54 pm

 

Tara said:

Parents are not supposed to burry their children, it is rather the opposite but not in Syria al Assad.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02650/SYRIA-CHEMICAL_2650175e.jpg

May Allah curse the regime and everyone who cheer hardly the massacres

August 24th, 2013, 3:09 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

The following AJE update echoes my theory #1. I wasn’t even being serious as I didn’t even know whether the assassination attempt on Assad actually took place. 😮

Perhaps Salaim Idris is reading SC. I suppose I could test out this possibility…

AJE Syria blog about 4 hrs ago:

Ahmad Al-Jarba, the president of the Syrian National Coalition and Salim Idris of the Free Syrian Army have been holding a press conference in Istanbul on the alleged use of chemical weapons in al-Ghouta on Wednesday.

[…]

Idris said:

“Bashar al-Assad decided to use the chemical weapon after the assassination attempt that targeted his parade on August 8.”

August 24th, 2013, 3:21 pm

 

revenire said:

One of the funnier lines I’ve heard today comes from out own Capt. Omen. He claims – on Twitter where he is approaching 50,000 tweets – that Iran provided Syria with the chemical weapons for the attack.

“omen ?@omen_99 2h
if iran provided chemical weapons to syria, instead of US punishing proxy, wouldn’t this justify retaliation against iran?”

Bravo Capt. Omen! You win a Tin Foil Hat and a year’s supply of Yellowcake.

August 24th, 2013, 3:39 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

From the Christian Science Monitor:

Syria’s state media Saturday accused rebels in the contested district of Jobar near Damascus of using chemical weapons against government troops advancing into the area. State media said the army offensive there had forced the rebels to resort to such weapons “as their last card.”

State TV broadcast images of plastic jugs, gas masks, vials of an unspecified medication, explosives and other items that it said were seized from rebel hideouts Saturday. It did not, however, show any video of soldiers reportedly affected by toxic gas in the fighting in the Jobar neighborhood of Damascus.

[…]

The state news agency said several government troops who took part in the Jobar offensive experienced severe trouble breathing or even “suffocation” after “armed terrorist groups used chemical weapons.” It was not clear what was meant by “suffocation” and the report mentioned no fatalities among the troops.

[…]

The report was followed by an unusual string of breaking alerts on the TV’s news scroll Saturday, with a series of claims related to the alleged use of chemical arms by rebels in Jobar.

One message cited a Syrian TV journalist who is embedded with the troops in the district who said the army confiscated an arms cache that included gas masks and several barrels with “made in Saudi Arabia” stamped on them. It did not say what was in the barrels, but appeared to suggest that some sort of chemical agent was inside and supplied by Saudi Arabia, the region’s Sunni Muslim power and a staunch supporter of Syria’s Sunni-led revolt.

Another news scroll said that troops, after overrunning rebel positions, discovered antidotes following exposure to chemical agents. The TV said the medicines were produced by a Qatari-German medical supplies company. Qatar is another strong supporter of the Syrian rebels. The report could not be immediately verified.

State TV also broadcast images of a Syrian army officer, wearing a surgical mask, telling reporters wearing similar masks that soldiers were subjected to poisonous attack in Jobar. He spoke inside the depot where the alleged confiscated products were placed.

“Our troops did not suffer body wounds,” said the officer said. “I believe terrorist groups used special substances that are poisonous in an attempt to affect this advance.”

August 24th, 2013, 4:10 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Politics aside, the fact that chemical weapons were probably used in Syria will have profound effect on many of us for years to come.

August 24th, 2013, 4:14 pm

 

Tara said:

Ghufran,

Yes. I second that. Between the use of the chemical weapons and the distribution of sweets in celebration of that mode of death, visceral emotions have started to settle in.

August 24th, 2013, 4:22 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

If there isn’t gonna be a new main post anytime soon, just hand me the keys to the site and out of good will I’ll post one. One to remember. 🙂

I’m sure I can come up with plenty more theories…

The silence is getting worrying. I’m beginning to think the Professor and Matthew have abandoned the site..

August 24th, 2013, 4:31 pm

 

Alan said:

1341. ZIAD
Obama person punk with evil intent! But he is a coward!Would send a fleet near the Syrian territorial waters but would not even dare to fire a single shot!
Syria will never respond to US wishes or to evildoer agents or evildoer intermediaries !

August 24th, 2013, 4:39 pm

 

revenire said:

I have it on strong information that the US is investigating whether the rebels were the ones who used chemical weapons/poison gas. You won’t see this in the news. It comes from sources inside the US intelligence establishment. These same sources claim that Israel is pushing for a full-scale US attack on Syria.

August 24th, 2013, 4:44 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

1361. Alan said:

‘Obama person punk with evil intent!’

LOL..I love it when Alan’s angry. It’s when he’s at his most poetic.

August 24th, 2013, 4:45 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

Syria weapons-watcher Elliot Higgins (via the blog Brown Moses) has collected images and videos of unusual armaments, armaments associated with the alleged chemical weapons attacks.

Images: http://imgur.com/a/1nziC

Videos: https://t.co/znZpq8X353

— on the other hand, the Youtube channel ‘Syria News‘ just published a video that purports to show a rebel chemical rocket: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPXwGKDrMQw

August 24th, 2013, 4:52 pm

 

Tara said:

Mr. Reve,

You are very important person. You are privy to classified information that comes to your desk from the regime as well as from the US intelligence establishment. I have not known a VIP in my life, just your usual ordinary banal people like myself here and there. I think I should feel blessed sharing this site with important people.
—-

August 24th, 2013, 4:55 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

This SC forum should be renamed SC-CIENCE FICTION REVENIRE VIP.

August 24th, 2013, 5:01 pm

 

Alan said:

UZAIR8
Alan is not Angry ! Well if you enjoy it, please!

August 24th, 2013, 5:04 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

Assad is the first and main responsible for the mess in Syria. Even if he has not been elected by the people but by a mafia, he is the president and should manage the country properly. If he is really in charge he is useless. If he is not the one in charge but Iran is, then Assad should commit suicide as his last service to the syrian people.

August 24th, 2013, 5:05 pm

 

Alan said:

Putin Responds To Syria Escalation: May “Reinforce Naval Grouping In Mediterranean” Following US Buildup

Newton’s third law strikes again.

Yesterday, when describing the latest US developments in the Syrian “liberation” and “WMD elimination” we pointed out that the “use of war as a culmination point to end a depression is nothing new. Just look at the first Great Depression. And just like then, the only cost to perpetuate the myth of the Keynesian and monetarist religion and the pillaged wealth of the 0.01% status quo elite, will be a few hundred thousand innocent men, women and children. Or, as they are known in the Beltway, collateral damage. That is, unless, Putin decides to retaliate.”

Moments ago Interfax reported that Russia is starting to pre-emptively, for now, retaliate.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-24/putin-responds-syria-escalation-may-reinforce-naval-grouping-mediterranean-following

August 24th, 2013, 5:10 pm

 

Alan said:

ass whipping to bring down a legal government!
The military scenario against Syria is the most ham-fistedly, pig-headedly stupid foolhardiness

It looks that the US is going to massage and cook their alleged “intel” in such a way as to blame Syria for these attacks, when there is no logical evidence that this was the case.

The US navy is expanding its presence in the Mediterranean Sea with a fourth cruise-missile-armed warship.

The USS Mahan, a cruise-missile armed warship, which had finished its deployment in the Mediterranean and was due to head back to its home base in Norfolk, Virginia, will remain in the region, the commander of the US Sixth Fleet has decided. It will be joined by the USS Ramage, which had arrived to replace the USS Mahan.

August 24th, 2013, 5:26 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

It looks as if the supporters of the Assad sadistic mafia are getting nervous. Do not panic, you still have some months to enjoy killing and torturing people. Later the end will be fast.

Tonight having dinner with someone who has left Syria recently I have been hearing the methods of torture used by the regime against innocent or suspects of cooperation. If you do not sign a “musalaha” document with the regime admitting you will never share in any activity against the regime and you are catched in a road check without this paper you are sent to prison for tortures during days, months or fovever if you die.

Some are hung from trees for until 60 days, many die. Other are tortured for more than 30 days without rest, day and night. Most of them sleep on the ground humidity. Some get raped or sexually abused. Others get urinated. If they are freed many become mentally ill, many cannot walk, other cry day and night even aged people. This is just an excerpt from the story. Many are writting about Syria without really imagining the levels of suffering of syrians in custody.

August 24th, 2013, 5:29 pm

 

revenire said:

“Some are hung from trees for until 60 days.”

No photos or video?

August 24th, 2013, 5:36 pm

 

Alan said:

Syrian rebels use toxic chemicals against govt troops near Damascus – state media
http://rt.com/news/rebel-tunnel-damascus-chemical-940/

August 24th, 2013, 5:36 pm

 

Tara said:

Batta issued a stern warning to Obama.  This is laughable.  And yes, the rebels launched chemical weapons against Assad militia, and the proof was showing 2 soldiers being interviewed on a Pro regime TV station saying they heard an explosion and immediately after felt difficulty breathing.  A chemical weapon was used against Assad thugs but no fatality was reported among those thugs.  Yeah…we are stupid.  It is that simple.  No need to refine the lie.  Any lie would do.    

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-warns-us-not-intervene-militarily-203541382.html

Syria warns US not to intervene militarily

DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — The Syrian government accused rebels of using chemical weapons Saturday and warned the United States not to launch any military action against Damascus over an alleged chemical attack last week, saying such a move would set the Middle East ablaze.
….

Meanwhile, U.S. naval units are moving closer to Syria as President Barack Obama considers a military response to the alleged use of chemical weapons by Assad’s government.  U.S. defense officials told The Associated Press that the Navy had sent a fourth warship armed with ballistic missiles into the eastern Mediterranean Sea but without immediate orders for any missile launch into Syria. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to discuss ship movements publicly.  Obama emphasized that a quick intervention in the Syrian civil war was problematic, given the international considerations that should precede a military strike. The White House said the president would meet Saturday with his national security team to consider possible next steps by the United States. Officials say once the facts are clear, Obama will make a decision about how to proceed.

Syria’s Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi dismissed the possibility of an American attack, warning that such a move would risk triggering more violence in the region.  “The basic repercussion would be a ball of fire that would burn not only Syria but the whole Middle East,” al-Zoubi said in an interview with Lebanon-based Al-Mayadeen TV. “An attack on Syria would be no easy trip.”

Al-Zoubi blamed the rebels for the chemical attacks in Ghouta, saying that the Syrian government had proof of their responsibility but without giving details. “The rockets were fired from their positions and fell on civilians. They are responsible,” he said.
….
State TV broadcast images of plastic jugs, gas masks, vials of an unspecified medication, explosives and other items that it said were seized from rebel hideouts Saturday.  One barrel had “made in Saudi Arabia” stamped on it. The TV report also showed medicines said to be produced by a Qatari-German medical supplies company. Qatar and Saudi Arabia are strong supporters of the Syrian rebels. The report could not be immediately verified.
,,,,

The state news agency said several government troops who took part in the Jobar offensive experienced severe trouble breathing or even “suffocation” after “armed terrorist groups used chemical weapons.” It was not clear what was meant by “suffocation,” and the report mentioned no fatalities among the troops.
….
Al-Mayadeen aired interviews with two soldiers hospitalized for possible chemical weapons attack. The two appeared unharmed but were undergoing tests.  “We were advancing and heard an explosion that was not very strong,” a soldier said from his bed. “Then there was a strange smell, my eyes and head ached and I struggled to breathe.” The other soldier also said he experienced trouble breathing after the explosion.  Al-Mayadeen TV, which has a reporter embedded with the troops in the area, said some 50 soldiers were rushed to Damascus hospitals for treatment and that it was not yet known what type of gas the troops were subjected too.
….

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius dismissed the Syrian government’s claims.  “All the information we have is converging to indicate there was a chemical massacre in Syria, near Damascus, and that Bashar Assad’s regime was behind it,” Fabius told reporters during a visit to the West Bank city of Ramallah. He did not elaborate.
,,,,

August 24th, 2013, 5:37 pm

 

revenire said:

Tara you can send whatever you think my presence is worth to a relief agency for Syrian children.

My sources are in US government intelligence agencies. I know that doesn’t rank with Twitter, cut and paste jobs off the BBC, or just making things up (Majed) but I try.

Thanks.

August 24th, 2013, 5:38 pm

 

revenire said:

Tara what do you think would happen if the US attacked Syria? Do you think the men and women of Syria would lie down and die or would they resist? You know they would resist. They will fight. Syria won’t surrender.

We are well aware you want an attack and have drooled over one for years.

August 24th, 2013, 5:44 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Tara, can you link a credible article or video showing Syrians celebrating the death of other Syrians by chemical weapons, I have seen videos of regime and rebels supporters celebrating their wins but I have not seen this story on celebrating the use of chemical weapons on any reliable site.
I still think the west and Israel are looking for an excuse to bomb Syria , Obama is right in his hesitance to act quickly based on info provided by one biased source, if he bombs Syria he will do it to look good and silence his critics, I think that both sides have little respect for international law and human lives but I do not see why the regime would use chemical weapons when the rebels are on the defense, a good impartial investigation is needed, those who used CW should be brought to justice.

August 24th, 2013, 5:50 pm

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

REVENIRE

I hope you are not a criminal from the syrian regime. Althought you could easily be or have been a responsible there according to your words.

August 24th, 2013, 5:52 pm

 

Tara said:

Reve

The US being the leader of the world has a responsibility to protect. The US should launch air strikes to neutralize the regime’s air power, its reserve of WMD, the presidential palace, the republic guards, the forth brigade, the Fadl Abu al Abbas brigade around Zainab shrine and HA. Syrians hate al Assad and will cheer the regime annihilation. His Alawi sect will be initialy disgruntled but will eventually resign to power and strive to engage in a political transition to be represented.

August 24th, 2013, 5:55 pm

 

Tara said:

Ghufran,

No I can’t. I heard it on SC and saw the regimists reaction.

I am surprised though you doubt the regime used CW. If the rebels used it against the regime, why was there no single fatality between Assad’s thugs? Why did they kill their own chikdren and own women? Why all the casualties are from the rebels side? This defies logic, doesn’t it? And if the rebels have it, why couldn’t they use it against Batta’s neighborhood and simply get rid of him?

August 24th, 2013, 6:03 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Let’s skip a bunch:

CHEMICAL ATROCITY – THEORY #73

Isreal

Syria’s stockpiles have no doubt always been a source of fear in the minds of Isrealis (politicians, military and civilians alike). What better time to have them dealt with once and for all? How tempting would that be? Isreal covertly carries out a chemical attack and watches the international outrage and concern over the stockpiles in the possession of the regime followed by an intervention getting rid of the stockpiles once and for all.

Free from at least one nightmare, Isrealis can sleep a little easier.

August 24th, 2013, 6:14 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Some ask why the regimists lack concern for the civilian victims of the chemical attacks.

Perhaps it’s because the victims are from rebel held areas and are opposition supporters? So they don’t count as fellow Syrians worthy of concern.

I wouldn’t care about the civilian victims allegiance.

August 24th, 2013, 6:21 pm

 

revenire said:

Tara question (but only if you feel like answering): Who said the US was the leader of the world?

On the rebels killing their own people: Who threw the FSA out of Raqqa? Who murdered this crazy priest? I can go on if you like.

There is no legal basis to attack Syria. It would be a war crime for the US to do so.

August 24th, 2013, 6:27 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair the chemical weapons story is an excuse to bomb Syria. The rebels are losing badly. The West is desperate.

August 24th, 2013, 6:33 pm

 

revenire said:

Sandro Loewe go to your dinner and dream of NATO attacking. We’re ready.

August 24th, 2013, 6:35 pm

 

revenire said:

The Royal Swedish Academy of War Sciences

1. The timing – This Monday, personnel from the UN arrived to investigate what could have happened in three other suspected usages of illegal chemical weapons.

The group that’s being lead by Åke Sellström, renowned expert in the field, is actually present in Damascus. It’s difficult to find any reason as to why the Syrian regime would commit such a delirious attack, when a request of visiting the areas can be expected immediately. There might be a small possibility that the dictator wants to showcase his total contempt for the surrounding world, but so far Assad has been cautious from escalating internationally.

2. If we also look at the course of events the latest months, it’s obvious that the rebels are in defensive mode here and there. None of the sides is strong enough to put a definite end to it within the close future, but the fact that the “military success” is on the side of the Syrian army makes it hard to see why the regime would need to resort to insane and excessive violence.

3. The difficulty to coordinate. Reports speak about deaths in five suburbs (Douma, Jobar, Zamalka, Arbeen and Ein Tarma). Using chemical weapons are not like in movies. There are plenty of impact-factors to take into consideration if you’re only shooting these shells or rockets into one area. Maybe not the strongest counter-argument, but note worthy.

4. The harrowing pictures have a common problem. Sarin gas has the properties of being very liquid, but can stay in clothes as a liquid for half an hour. The personnel in the videos wear no protective gear whatsoever and would thereby be victims themselves through contact with sarin gas in clothes and on the skin. In this case the reports might be based on a quickly determined term that got stuck in the reporting or the ones filming and the personnel might have been hurt and/or killed later, outside of the pictures. But there are enough question marks to make it difficult to tie to an extensive sarin gas attack.

August 24th, 2013, 6:52 pm

 
 

Uzair8 said:

‘Snackbar’

Hmm…*thinks*…Don?…Ilya?…Don?…Ilya?..Don?…Ilya?

:-~

August 24th, 2013, 7:09 pm

 

don said:

UZAIR8 = AKBAR-PALACE = OMEN = the three Israeli propaganda stooges

August 24th, 2013, 7:31 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

PressTV, the Iranian news channel has put up a report that claims Syrian foreign minister Muallem says Syria will provide UN team access to the sites of the alleged chemical attacks.

This is good news for anyone following the horrifying story.

The only problem is that not one single Syrian news outlet has confirmed this story citing Muallem. Not SANA, not Syrian Radio and TV, and not any of the regime-supporting newspapers and outlets.

If this Iranian report is true, why has there been zero appearance of the same news anywhere else? (the Lebanese/Hizbullah media has merely parroted the self-same Iranian report)

August 24th, 2013, 7:37 pm

 

revenire said:

Joshua Landis ?@joshua_landis
Iraqi #ISIS stop three #Alawite truck drivers; ask them how many time they kneel for prayer. Wrong answ. Are executed http://bit.ly/157rwSh

August 24th, 2013, 7:58 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Tara, I think the regime committed enough atrocities that it is easy to believe any accusations against it, however, due to the gravity of the charges and the potential serious consequences of those charges it is essential that an impartial agency conducts a thorough investigation, if Assad refuses to allow that then I will settle my case.

August 24th, 2013, 8:38 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Bill they are lying

August 24th, 2013, 8:44 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Before we all hype our expectation, we should not forget Obama is not going to fight

August 24th, 2013, 8:46 pm

 

Ghufran said:

WASHINGTON | Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:32pm EDT

(Reuters) – Americans strongly oppose U.S. intervention in Syria’s civil war and believe Washington should stay out of the conflict even if reports that Syria’s government used deadly chemicals to attack civilians are confirmed, a Reuters/Ipsos poll says.
About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria’s civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.
More Americans would back intervention if it is established that chemical weapons have been used, but even that support has dipped in recent days – just as Syria’s civil war has escalated and the images of hundreds of civilians allegedly killed by chemicals appeared on television screens and the Internet.
The Reuters/Ipsos poll, taken August 19-23, found that 25 percent of Americans would support U.S. intervention if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s forces used chemicals to attack civilians, while 46 percent would oppose it. That represented a decline in backing for U.S. action since August 13, when Reuters/Ipsos tracking polls found that 30.2 percent of Americans supported intervention in Syria if chemicals had been used, while 41.6 percent did not.
Taken together, the polls suggest that so far, the growing crisis in Syria, and the emotionally wrenching pictures from an alleged chemical attack in a Damascus suburb this week, may actually be hardening many Americans’ resolve not to get involved in another conflict in the Middle East.

August 24th, 2013, 8:54 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

On the website of Kungliga Krigsvetenskapsakademin (Royal Swedish Academy of War Sciences) is a report titled “Troligen inte en sarinattack i Syrien – Del 2..” Translated, it says, "Probably not a sarin attack in Syria – Part 2"

Further translation by GoogleTranslate:

Now, two days after the alleged use of chemical weapons in the Damascus suburbs, the ball is in the Syrian regime. The Security Council agreed on the need to investigate what happened, so it becomes hard political pressure on the regime, which suggests that it will allow a site inspection. The biggest obstacle would be the security situation locally. But if the world wants to know and the UN as an organization is willing to take some risks with his staff in place, then it should also be able to go with the protection of government forces.

It may seem semantically well to pay attention to whether there is nerve gases sarin and other chemical substances used. It is no consolation for those affected, but it is very important for the dynamics.

[…]

We are dealing with three different levels in the use of chemical weapons and agents.

The worst is WMD, where there exists no accepted international definition. If sarin gas would be used in a bigger bet , then someone (with all probability regime, since there are no confirmed reports that opposition come across such) used WMD as the term has been used in recent decades. That in turn would mean that the United States would have to act to try to prevent further use, both in the short term, in Syria and in the long run elsewhere – as a signal.

However, it is difficult to see allies like Iran and Russia would allow the Syrian regime to commit such a revolutionary act, although their influence is not total. Iran would lose all credibility in the ongoing negotiations on its nuclear program and Russia have indicated in the past that the country has an eye on Assad’s store of chemical weapons.

The general level (chemical weapons) is blistering and suffocating weapons or possibly nerve gas in small quantities adulterated with other substances. It’s bad enough to kill hundreds of people, but here we enter the gray area that makes the president’s statement interesting – “a whole bunch” – where is the line?

[…]

Another factor that is important to shed light on chemical weapons are the weapons carriers used. The reports of the attack the other night varies. I have noted the testimony of flights with missiles, helicopters with missiles and shelling from the ground with artillery shells and rockets. There are also a few pictures of home-made grenades allegedly used.

Here is the rule of thumb is simple – the more qualified ammunition, the higher the probability that it is the regime that is behind. Just to make weapons that are designed to spread death and destruction by toxic substances, it constitutes what is a chemical weapon, which brings us to the next category.

It is the ability to unleash dangerous forces by getting chemical substances, which are not designed as a weapon, explode or leak from the container. It may be through planned operations or unintentionally by conventional grenades hit such a store, for example, chlorine which of course can be used for water treatment. Here it several months ago have been reports that Jabhat al-Nusra taken industrial areas with hazardous substances such as chlorine extensively. It is also quite possible for non-state actors to make a temporary sort of sarin, cf subway attacks in Tokyo . Such a more amateurish production of low-quality sarin could explain some symptoms similar to nerve gas, while other characters are missing in the victims.

[…]

The bottom line : Today, I estimate the probability that it was some kind of C usage to 99%. In this case, it is likely that there were weapons of mass destruction as nerve gases using conventional weapons carrier, with no other weapons such as asphyxiating substances in weapon form. The more skilled weapon delivery, the more likely that it was the regime that was behind. If inspectors have access to the places we can get more clarity, which is necessary for accountability and get the world to act. It is virtually impossible to see President Obama commit U.S. military in the conflict without certainty.

I have no idea where the text in 1388 came from …

August 24th, 2013, 8:56 pm

 
 

elian said:

this site continues to serve the propaganda of the terrorists rebels in hope of gaining more public support of radical Islam taking over Syria.
Egypt failure is a blessing for Assad and thorn in the eyes of IKHWAN, turks and Qatar.
the only sad thing that the only winner if a war is the one who survives the war, the dead are pocket change died for no reason.
Syria is becoming the sexy young girl who everyone outside and inside is rapping her with the help of the pimps around.

August 24th, 2013, 9:21 pm

 

don said:

How Turkey went from ‘zero problems’ to zero friends

While Ankara’s foreign policy struggles in the Middle East may have been inevitable, its isolation elsewhere seems self-inflicted

http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/how-turkey-went-from-zero-problems-to-zero-friends-1.1223309

August 24th, 2013, 9:27 pm

 

revenire said:

FSA snorts a lot of Captagon.

August 24th, 2013, 9:31 pm

 

revenire said:

CNN December 2012

Sources: U.S. helping underwrite Syrian rebel training on securing chemical weapons

The United States and some European allies are using defense contractors to train Syrian rebels on how to secure chemical weapons stockpiles in Syria, a senior U.S. official and several senior diplomats told CNN Sunday.

The training, which is taking place in Jordan and Turkey, involves how to monitor and secure stockpiles and handle weapons sites and materials, according to the sources. Some of the contractors are on the ground in Syria working with the rebels to monitor some of the sites, according to one of the officials.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/09/sources-defense-contractors-training-syrian-rebels-in-chemical-weapons/

August 24th, 2013, 9:33 pm

 

ELIAN said:

At some point during the last three years many of the Syrians were in support of removing Assad from power, even many Christians were killed by the Syrian army because they stood against the regime, one of the first people to die was Bassel Shihadeh, who died early in HOMS.
later when Sunni and Christians realized that this is not a revolution against the regime but a superpower agenda to destroy Syria. Having foreign jihadists all over Syria committing atrocities the street mind swung in favor of keeping the corrupt regime instead of killing the innocent and removing Syria off the map.
it is a big lie and propaganda to believe that USA WANTS the removal of Assad.
Hello 2014 and beyond and Assad still in POWER count my words, and just look back on this blog and read how many politicians predicated Assad demise and he is still there and they are gone from their political post

August 24th, 2013, 9:38 pm

 

Elain said:

I am waiting on MR. Obama to declare that Assad days are numbered. it is funny how days could mean years. This kind of linguistic humor exist in the Hebrew holy book Thawra where it states that people lived hundreds of years.
Obama never mentioned that Assad will be removed. IT is obvious that Obama and Putin in clear agreement on Syria.
Media, Tv’s journalists can speculate as much as possible, but there is one answer which is ASSAD is staying.

August 24th, 2013, 9:49 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed predicted Assad would be gone 36,714 times.

August 24th, 2013, 10:02 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

There is a story that is circulating, the regime is storing chemical weapons in Jober and has GPS then they are going to withdraw , the rebels will get them, then the UN inspecters will follow them, all to accuse the rebels that they used the CW

August 24th, 2013, 10:03 pm

 

Sami said:

If you are going to use a Syrian heroes name to make some idiotic statement then you better make sure your information is correct.

Bassel Shehadeh is not the first nor the last Christian to give his life for a better Syria, a Syria not clutched by the group of hyenas and thugs that gas their own people, a Syria free from the tyranny known as Assadism.

Bassel died on May 28th of 2012. A full year and three months after the revolution started.

http://basselshehadehfoundation.org/en/bassel-shehadeh/biography/

August 24th, 2013, 10:04 pm

 

revenire said:

Assad all the way.

August 24th, 2013, 10:21 pm

 

don said:

Kinetic Strikes = WAR

US prepares Kinetic Strikes against Syria

nsnbc international consulted with members of the Danish Civil Defense who are trained to conduct rescue operations during or after ABC (atomic, biological, chemical) attacks. Both of the experts were presented with the handout images which had been distributed by the opposition. On condition of anonymity, because they could not make official statements on behalf of the Danish Civil Defense Forces, both of the experts unanimously stated that the likelihood that the photos had been taken during or after a real chemical weapons attack was close to zero, if not zero.

One of the two experts went as far as to say, that it is not even a well-staged falsification. Both of the experts pointed out that the medical staff, shown in the images, does not wear gloves, does not wear protective suits, and does not protect their airways. Hospital images prompted one of the experts to expound:

“It is not even likely that this is a real medical team that is alleged to treat chemical weapons victims. Every nurse knows that you have to protect yourself in order not to become the next who will have to be hospitalized. Or maybe the images are real but presented within a false context”.

http://nsnbc.me/2013/08/24/us-prepares-kinetic-strikes-against-syria/

August 24th, 2013, 10:24 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Ahmad Gharib, a Syrian regime agent was arrested, he is accused of bombing tripoli that caused the death of 47 and wounding 500

August 24th, 2013, 10:39 pm

 

zoo said:

@1360. Ghufran

With the Kurds, Iranians are the ones who suffered the most of the German made chemical weapons that Saddam used and that were paid by Saudi Arabia and supported by all the Arab countries as well as France, UK and the USA.
Syria is the only Arab country who condemned Iraq and stood next to Iran during 8 years of a deadly war, now forgotten.

It seems that Saudi Arabia is repeating its crimes now against Syrians with the approval of the same countries.

Iran and Kurds took years to overcome the pain and grief but it made them stronger, smarter and more determined to remain independent from these hypocrite, greedy, opportunistic and selfish western countries.
Syria will come out stronger too after the terrorists will be crushed and the Western countries will withdraw their mercenaries. Syria will remain independent, it paid a very heavy price for that.

August 24th, 2013, 10:46 pm

 

zoo said:

Majed

Lebanese newspaper reported that a Sunni Sheikh, Ahmad el-Gharib has been arrested in relation with the bombing of Trioli mosques
He is Lebanese and some newspaper reported that he belongs to a Sunni group that have good relations with Hezbollah.

More to come…

August 24th, 2013, 10:54 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Thinking exercise for ELIAN #1404 who is feeling smug and relieved that Assad has survived in power, declaring it as proof that the world was wrong.

Isn’t this where the world got it wrong: no rational analysis would have predicted that the rubbish leadership of Russia and Iran would rush in and go to such costly, drawn out and pointless extremes to keep him in power.

A move which could be about to prove too costly for the long-suffering citizens of those countries.

August 24th, 2013, 10:56 pm

 
 

zoo said:

Al Qaeda blames Hezbollah for Lebanon bombings

DUBAI – Al Qaeda’s North African branch blamed Lebanese Shia Muslim militant group Hezbollah for twin bombs that hit the northern city of Tripoli on Friday and threatened retribution, a US-based intelligence monitoring website reported on Saturday. Although al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, or AQIM, is not operational in Lebanon, its statement shows a growing regional hatred against Hezbollah by radical Sunni Muslim groups and a wider, deepening sectarian divide in the Middle East. AQIM said in tweets it knew “with certainty” that the Iranian-backed Hezbollah was responsible for the attack that killed more than 42 people in Tripoli.
– See more at: http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/08/25/news/foreign/al-qaeda-blames-hezbollah-for-lebanon-bombings/#sthash.Ie52WuFl.dpuf

August 24th, 2013, 11:18 pm

 

zoo said:

Majed

Both arrested Sheikhs are Sunnis and Lebanese. Where did I lie?

Suspect Arrested In Lebanon Mosque Bombings, Sheik Ahmad al-Ghareeb Has Hezbollah Ties
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/lebanon-mosque-bombings_n_3810142.html?utm_hp_ref=world

August 24th, 2013, 11:19 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Your lie in not telling the whole truth, they belong to Baath party and they are supporters of Assad, this means it was Assad regime who planned the attack in tripoli and Assad is the criminal, Your idol and God is criminal, the one you support all the time, you have no shame,

August 24th, 2013, 11:24 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria: Youssef Abdelke Free, Resolved to Stay in Damascus

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/syria-youssef-abdelke-free-resolved-stay-damascus

Damascus – Syrian authorities have released Youssef Abdelke from prison after one month and three days. No one knows the exact charge against this Syrian artist, but he has been among the few in Syria to remain true to the principles of nonviolent action, and has long warned against militarizing the protest movement.

Abdelke has now returned to his studio in the Sarouja district of Old Damascus.

August 24th, 2013, 11:25 pm

 

Syrialover said:

APPLE_MiNI said in #1337:

“The Syrian government should immediately secure the perimeter where they found suspicious CW site used by the rebels.”

Little Apple, you are setting yourself up for more shame and frustration, offering advice to your beloved protector Bashar Assad that is going to be ignored.

It’s been a couple of days now since you declared here that you couldn’t wait for Bashar to allow the CW inspectors into the attack area find out the truth.

Give up on Bashar, Little Apple, he is going to keep letting you down and embarrassing you. Only more humiliation, more heartbreak ahead.

More to the point, loyalists like you will not receive any loyalty or protection from Bashar when he grabs his Apple computer and flees in panic with his Iranian and Hizbollah guards.

August 24th, 2013, 11:26 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed please, your heart.

August 24th, 2013, 11:26 pm

 

revenire said:

Bad news for the rebels, Nusra leader just admitted they have chemical weapons

Zaid Benjamin ?@zaidbenjamin
#Breaking: We will attack Alawait towns with 1000 missiles because the Sunni blood is not cheap – Abu Mohamed al-Golani, the head of JN

Zaid Benjamin ?@zaidbenjamin
#Breaking: The Islamic jurisdiction allows us to respond by the same means – Abu Mohamed al-Golani commenting on al-Ghouta poisonous attack

August 24th, 2013, 11:28 pm

 

zoo said:

1417. majedkhaldoun

The information you mentioned was reported by ‘sources’ special to the Daily Star a Pro-Hariri and anti-Syria newspaper.
I am waiting for other newspapers to confirm that before considering it to be “the truth”. The Huffington Post did not report any link with Syria or the Baath party.

More to come tomorrow

August 24th, 2013, 11:30 pm

 

revenire said:

The Daily Star is trash. Everyone knows it.

August 24th, 2013, 11:53 pm

 

zoo said:

After HBJ, it is Bandar Al Sultan’s turn to be disappointed by the outcome of his brilliant ‘new’ strategy. He had 355 Syrians killed by mercenaries, boosted by massive PR of heart breaking videos and running rumors of 1300 dead and still the cold-hearted Americans refuse to fall in the trap?

As Syria war escalates, Americans cool to U.S. intervention: Reuters/Ipsos poll. 60% : NO, 9% : Yes
If chemical weapons used, 25% in favor of intervention down from 30 on 13 August.,

http://in.news.yahoo.com/syria-war-escalates-americans-cool-u-intervention-reuters-025311119.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Americans strongly oppose U.S. intervention in Syria’s civil war and believe Washington should stay out of the conflict even if reports that Syria’s government used deadly chemicals to attack civilians are confirmed, a Reuters/Ipsos poll says.

About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria’s civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.

More Americans would back intervention if it is established that chemical weapons have been used, but even that support has dipped in recent days – just as Syria’s civil war has escalated and the images of hundreds of civilians allegedly killed by chemicals appeared on television screens and the Internet.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll, taken August 19-23, found that 25 percent of Americans would support U.S. intervention if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s forces used chemicals to attack civilians, while 46 percent would oppose it,
That represented a decline in backing for U.S. action since August 13, when Reuters/Ipsos tracking polls found that 30.2 percent of Americans supported intervention in Syria if chemicals had been used, while 41.6 percent did not.
….

Taken together, the polls suggest that so far, the growing crisis in Syria, and the emotionally wrenching pictures from an alleged chemical attack in a Damascus suburb this week, may actually be hardening many Americans’ resolve not to get involved in another conflict in the Middle East.

August 24th, 2013, 11:55 pm

 

zoo said:

Lying About Syria, and the Lying Liars Who Lie About the Lying

http://warisacrime.org/content/lying-about-syria-and-lying-liars-who-lie-about-lying
….
Syrian rebels understand that under all possible U.S. policies, faking chemical weapons attacks can get them guns, while shifting to nonviolent resistance can only get them as ignored as Bahrain. (Ba-who?)

“Obama also called British Prime Minister David Cameron,” says the LA Times, “to talk over the developments in Syria. The two are ‘united’ in their opposition to the use of chemical weapons, the White House said in a statement issued after the call.” Well, except for white phosphorus and napalm. Those are good chemical weapons, and the United States government is against bad chemical weapons, so really your newspaper isn’t lying to you at all.
….

August 25th, 2013, 12:00 am

 

zoo said:

Despite the FSA commanders “guaranteeing” the security of the inspectors coming into their area, guess who will be blamed if any one is killed? The Syrian government. It will be accused of killing the inspectors to hide the ‘truth’ when he was killed because he was going to reveal the lies of the opposition.
Syria must be careful not to fall into that trap that Bandar ben Sultan has prepared

John Kerry calls Syrian foreign minister about alleged gas attack
Sunday, Aug 25, 2013, 9:16 IST | Place: Washington, DC | Agency: Reuters

Kerry called “to make clear that if, as they claimed, the Syrian regime has nothing to hide, it should have allowed immediate and unimpeded access to the site.”

US Secretary of State John Kerry spoke to Syrian foreign minister Walid al-Moualem on Thursday and told him the Damascus government should have let UN inspectors have access to the site of an alleged gas attack, the State Department said on Saturday.

Kerry called “to make clear that if, as they claimed, the Syrian regime has nothing to hide, it should have allowed immediate and unimpeded access to the site rather than continuing to attack the affected area to block access and destroy evidence,” a State Department official said.

“The secretary further emphasized … that he had received full assurances from Free Syrian Army commanders that they would ensure the safety of UN investigators into the targeted areas,” the official said.

August 25th, 2013, 12:08 am

 

Ghufran said:

In the first direct contact between the USA and the Syrian government in more than 2 years, Kerry called walid almouallem to assure him that the FSA will guarantee the safety of the UN inspection team, Kerry said that if the Syrian government does not have anything to hide they should allow the UN team immediate access to the site of suspected CW attack. Almouallem is likely to ask that the team look at the alleged CW found in Jobar.
I do not believe that neither the regime nor the rebels are interested in finding the truth , their focus is to maximize damage on the other side before they are forced to sit down and end this war , but that will not happen until the issue of thousands of foreign fighters is addressed and some type of an agreement is reached, rebels could not care less about Kerry and the UN , they may attack the UN team and blame that on the regime , the opposition may have received assurance that the investigation will not be used to put them on the spot , the lack of trust and the competition between the usa and russia will eventually make any investigation a political ball with no goals to score.

August 25th, 2013, 12:12 am

 

revenire said:

Who knows what was discussed? How many times has the US gone to meetings, come out and lied straight up about the meeting?

August 25th, 2013, 12:15 am

 

Ali said:

Dr. Death I wish you very strong heart attack

August 25th, 2013, 12:19 am

 

Ali said:

It’s another normal day in Damascus, all these rumors of panic and high alert within the Syrian army and calling for backup and general recruitment in preparation for an expected attack from the U.S. is not true. The Syrian government does not take these empty threats seriously, to the contrary the Syrian army allowed for weekend vacations for officers and soldiers.

Those who are beating the war drums are in dream. There will be no intervention against the Syrian government.

August 25th, 2013, 12:23 am

 

Ali said:

Actually the US Secretary of State John Kerry has spoken to Syria’s foreign minister Walid Almouallem to assure him that all media threats is nothing more than lips service. He assured him that there will be more coordination between the two governments to fight the terrorists in Syria.

??? ??? ?? ???

August 25th, 2013, 12:29 am

 

Ali said:

So after all Syria’s foreign minister Walid Almouallem is a legitimate minister in a legitimate government for a legitimate regime.

The terrorists allies on this forum are enjoying a big oiled khazouq from the US Secretary of State John Kerry.

??? ??? ?? ???

August 25th, 2013, 12:33 am

 

Ali said:

Shabbeehha lil abad lajal 3yonak ya ASSAD

August 25th, 2013, 12:42 am

 

Ali said:

We have celebrated the death of terrorists
We are continuously celebrating the death of terrorists
We will keep celebrating the death of terrorists

Feeling jealous? come and join our Dabkheh circles all over Damascus

??? ??? ?? ???

August 25th, 2013, 12:46 am

 

apple_mini said:

A mortar attack in Qassa district killed at least 5 people and wound more.

There is a children’ playground right at the site where the mortar fell. Children use the blocked street to play football everyday because it is safe to play without any traffic.

Then what they got is a big boom from the death squat.

Targeting civilians will not help the death squat win. Only further ignite more hatred against those death squad and make people more determined to crush those death squad.

August 25th, 2013, 12:48 am

 

Syrian said:

It will be interesting to see if the dictator Chemical Assad from a fourth world country makes Obama the leader of the free world eat his words. While Obama never in his wildest dreams thought the stupidity of the regime will put him on the spot, never the less he drew a super power red line and he is stuck with it with America crdibilty on the line.Not only as Netanyahu said,that Iran is watching, but all emerging world powers and countries that are under American protection will be watching.
I will not hold my breath though for any big action from Obama, at most he will launch few dozens cruise missiles attacking long rang chemical delivery systems like the long-range Scuds. this way he save his face,gets Netanyahu off his back and do a favor to KSA. Not free of course they will have to pay for the missiles at $2 million each.If that strike happens I don’t expect any Beasts casualty because the Russians will be told in advance so not to have Russians blood spilt over Chemical Assad,the Russians in turn will warn Chemical assad and tell him to shut up about it
As far the revolution concern it will keep going UN or no UN. Strike or no strike. So far the Syrian people have been able to eliminate 30 to 40 thousands beasts on their own, at this rate in 2 years the most hardened beasts will be decimated. long before the forcast of the returning city raised young beast of returning Syria back to its 7 million population of the 70s comes true.

August 25th, 2013, 2:13 am

 

annie said:

http://beta.syriadeeply.org/2013/08/voices-ghouta-we-expect-united-nations/#.UhmkSz-0M8w
Voices from Damascus: ‘We Expect Nothing from the United Nations’

August 25th, 2013, 2:32 am

 
 

Juergen said:

first independent pictures of the Assad Holocaust

August 25th, 2013, 2:53 am

 

apple_mini said:

The high octane shows of appalling and outrageous sensations based on alleged pictures of victims by the alleged toxic gas attack on MSM and western governments and their associates have effectively generated momentum for some kind of intervention.

People crying for saving humanity are riding their horses on their moral high ground. It almost feels like a fashion trend: if you are not abhorred by the atrocity done by the Syrian regime, you are out.

Yet seldom is the case people with critical thinking will ask for how credible this whole “grave event” is. What is the authenticity of those pictures and videos provided by one side? Are those personal accounts from that same side reliable? Are common senses and logic less convincing than what we have been presented to witness? Without any concrete evidences, we can just assume we can nail down the culprit?

The MSM is working overdrive to assist their governments and masters to get ready for another “humanitarian intervention”. Propaganda is equivalent to brainwash. It always works on average Joes, let alone those dimwit fanatics.

People’s repulsion against usage of CW is also manageable. During Iran-Iraq war, Iraq army backed by almost the same conglomerate like today: the west and GCC, using technology and materials imported from WEST Germany and UK, launched deadly CW attacks against Iranian army and Kurdish villages. Those well-documented crimes against humanity did not provoke outcry from the west. Nor “required responses” from the west either. Because Iraq back then was the west’s “bitch”.

August 25th, 2013, 2:56 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

SYRIALOVER @ 1419
Haardly-a-massacer is in no position to offer advice to dog-poop chemical athad. Its job is simply to soften opinion and prepare them in advance of the sophistry blather that will follow the upcoming dog-poop chemical athad atrocity. So when hardly a human says that the dog-poop chemical athad regime (using the word government sophistry spinner love to use for the connotation of legitimacy) should “…immediately secure the perimeter where they found suspicious CW site used by the rebels.”, one should read that as the next sophistry blather to explain the coming massacre be it in Jober or in any area dog-poop chemical athad chooses as the site of its next atrocity and crime against humanity.

zoouzou, and hardly-a-massacre are both handled with far more seriousness and care than the troll, who is left to common mukhber like ziad to handle.

August 25th, 2013, 2:57 am

 

Ali said:

Juergen

Very nice video, please provide us with more.

August 25th, 2013, 3:16 am

 
 

Juergen said:

now the regime is saying their own soldiers have been affected and that the opposition has used the gas. Wouldnt it be more convincing to underline such accusations with well equipped actors? Medical mouthpieces wont help if Sarin is in the air…

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=509589355788317&set=a.296456290434959.71756.100002117714945&type=1&theater

August 25th, 2013, 3:34 am

 

Juergen said:

“There is nothing left to prove in Syria anymore. Nothing to offer but cowardly ambivalence and cold political calculations. World leaders know that the words “never again” are mere words, empty promises reserved for the sanitized spaces of memorial dedications or an exhibition on genocide years after it comes to an end.”

http://beta.syriadeeply.org/op-eds/minutes-nineteen-seconds-aleppo/#.Uhm0U38wq_1

August 25th, 2013, 3:39 am

 

Alan said:

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=8544
Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria

August 25th, 2013, 4:34 am

 
 

Alan said:

The War, The Economic Collapse: One Way Or Another The War Will Start Because The Central Bankers/US Government Know That They Need To Get Syria And Iran To Use The US Dollar As The Reserve Currency
http://youtu.be/4uyX9fB-tWM

August 25th, 2013, 4:53 am

 

Juergen said:

In Syria, America Loses if Either Side Wins
“Indeed, it would be disastrous if President Bashar al-Assad’s regime were to emerge victorious after fully suppressing the rebellion and restoring its control over the entire country. Iranian money, weapons and operatives and Hezbollah troops have become key factors in the fighting, and Mr. Assad’s triumph would dramatically affirm the power and prestige of Shiite Iran and Hezbollah, its Lebanon-based proxy — posing a direct threat both to the Sunni Arab states and to Israel.

But a rebel victory would also be extremely dangerous for the United States and for many of its allies in Europe and the Middle East. That’s because extremist groups, some identified with Al Qaeda, have become the most effective fighting force in Syria. If those rebel groups manage to win, they would almost certainly try to form a government hostile to the United States. Moreover, Israel could not expect tranquillity on its northern border if the jihadis were to triumph in Syria.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/25/opinion/sunday/in-syria-america-loses-if-either-side-wins.html?_r=1&amp;

August 25th, 2013, 5:38 am

 

Alan said:

Who are the Syrian opposition, ? made up of who. ! The Syrian people ? No………
27 countries are involved with the fighting in Syria, most of them are Islamist extremists so
what is the game. ? Killing !!!!!
Only last week there was a report of more than 450 kurds being slaughted in Northern
Syria by the Islamist and yet we don’t hear a word from the Obama administration about this, no invasion considered, no word mentioned. why. ?

August 25th, 2013, 5:50 am

 

Alan said:

English Translation by Mother Agnes Mariam de la Croix
http://syria360.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/urgent-facts-about-the-chemical-weapons-attack-in-damascus/
* * *

The cluster bomb sale is just the latest in a string ongoing arms deals between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia that include dozens of F-15SA Strike Eagle fighter jets, AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, H-60 Blackhawk helicopters and AH-6 Little Bird choppers as well as radars, anti-ship missiles, guided bombs, anti-radar missiles, surface to air missiles and even cyber defenses for those brand new Strike Eagles. It’s a relationship that’s worth tens of billions to American defense contractors. And even though the Saudi and the American governments have recently been at odds over a range of issues — Riyadh recently offered to replace any financial aid to Egypt’s military rulers that the U.S. withdrew — those arms sales are all-but-certain to continue. If the Saudis want cluster bombs, the U.S. will provide — no matter what the world thinks.

On the one hand, the U.S. is desperate to maintain the geo-political dominance it has held over the Middle East at a time when it seems to be slipping through their fingers. And on the other, one of the strongest lobbies in Washington – the defense corporations – really want to proceeds of these nefarious weapons sales. And you gotta please them.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/US_Sending_Saudi_Arabia_Thousands_of_Cluster_Bombs%2C_Despite_International_Ban/28354/0/38/38/Y/M.html

August 25th, 2013, 6:07 am

 

zoo said:

1449. Juergen

The USA and the West have only one choice: admit that they failed, like in Vietnam, withdraw their mercenaries and allow the Syrians to keep the government that the Syrians themselves helped to stay in power.
what do Kafranbel cartoonists say ?

August 25th, 2013, 6:14 am

 

zoo said:

– Israel pushes hard for a US military intervention to secure the chemical weapons as they fear it will fall in the Islamists hands.
– Israel wants to urgently produce anti-dotes once the UN inspectors determine the kind of toxic gas has been used.
– A deal is been worked out between the USA and Syria. A significant change of tone may be expected.

The chemical attack, independently of which side used it, is sending a wave of panic in Israel that shares a border with Syria.
The Israelis feel strong to fight most weapons, but can’t easily fight chemical weapons. The “iron domes’ supposedly protecting from rockets lately showed it is more “cardboard domes” as their efficiency has been proved limited.
Israel now feels extremely vulnerable. They want the US to act to protect them. The priority is not to to neutralize the Islamists that turn to be very useful in weakening Syria and killing Hezbollah fighters, but to limit their capability to harm Israel.

Israel is suspecting that the rebels used the chemical weapons rather than the Syrian government. While Syria is held accountable to Russia and Iran who provide it with help, the rebels and the Islamists are accountable to nobody. Therefore Israel fear much more the use of chemical by Islamists then by the Syrian government. As the rebels have “successfully” used chemical weapons once as a test on innocent Syrians, they may feel embolded to expand its use. Israel worry that the tons of new weapons Saudi Arabia is sending may weaken further the Syrian Army and make it easier for the Islamists to take hold of the alleged chemical weapons stockpiles and use it against Israel with the rocket propellers Saudi Arabia has provided them with.

Therefore for Israel, the situation can turn extremely dangerous if nothing is done immediately.
The USA is presented with the following choice: Either it prevents the Syrian Army from weakening further so iself can protect the chemical weapons stockpiles or the USA need to attack Syria and set up its own protection on the stockpiles.
As the second options is lengthy, costly, dangerous, and very unpopular in the USA, it is left with one choice: Reassure the Syrian government that the USA will stop the anti-Bashar campaign, ensure the power of the SAA and push hard for the Geneva conference. In exchange Syria will do its best to allow UN inspectors to visit the rebels held areas in a secure way. The purpose of the UN inspectors would not be to point at a culprit but just to validate whether chemical were used or not and which kind. That would allow Israel to immediately produce anti-dotes and get gas masks for its citizens.
Kerry also asked Syria to press its Palestinian allies to cooperate in the current Israel-Palestine negotiations.

It is then no surprise that Kerry personally called Moallem to agree on that deal after 2 years of absence of contacts.

If Syria accepted, I expect a gradual change of tone of the US officials. We will know it did when Syria will announce officially that it will help the UN inspectors in their investigation.

August 25th, 2013, 7:04 am

 

zoo said:

Syria to work with UN, refuses interference in sovereignty
25/08/2013 | 02:11 PM |

DAMASCUS, Aug 25 (KUNA) — Syria will fully cooperate with UN experts to visit areas affected by the latest “chemical weapons’ massacre,” however, it will not allow these inspections to interfere in sovereignty of the country, Syrian Information Minister Omran Al-Zoubi stressed on Sunday.
Under Syrian government protection, UN inspectors will look into Khan Al-Assal village where chemical weapons were deployed, in addition to other “terrorists’ free areas,” Al-Zoubi said in a statement that was circulated among media outlets.
He noted that, for the safety of the UN teams, his country is strict about countering terrorist groups and demands that they hand over their weapons and retreat from areas where chemical weapons have been used.
Al-Zoubi noted that the Ghouta massacre was a decoy to distract the UN experts from carrying out their mission, especially since the Syrian government and the UN teams had agreed to investigate certain areas where there were proofs of existence of chemical weapons.
He reiterated his country’s stand of not using any type of chemical weapons in any of the part of Syria, stressing that there had been evidences that a chemical attack was launched by terrorist groups.

August 25th, 2013, 7:10 am

 

omen said:

1350. zoo said: Death toll lowered from 1300 to 322-355:

international aid group [msf/doctors w/o borders] said it has tallied 355 deaths from the purported chemical weapons attack.

via nbc news:

Today, a Syrian doctor who treated hundreds of people in Wednesday’s attack on the outskirts of Damascus, told us area hospitals have counted 10,220 people affected, and of those 1,466 people died.

August 25th, 2013, 7:14 am

 

zoo said:

After the Canadian rebuff, Idriss will face the UK one.
He has to face it: nobody wants to help the FSA except Saudi Arabia and other rich Arabs supporting Islamist terrorists.

Salim Idris, head of the so-called Free Syrian Army (FSA), is expected to arrive shortly, amid growing pressure from certain western and Arabian governments on the international community to arm the foreign-backed militants or launch air strikes against the Syrian army forces, Al-Alam reported.

Diplomatic sources say General Idris is likely to challenge Hague to match his words with deeds and provide what he says would be ‘game-changing’ firepower.

August 25th, 2013, 7:18 am

 

zoo said:

Omen

Why is the “1,466” not rounded up to “1,470” .
I doubt the counting by pro-rebels Syrian doctors is accurate to the digit.
Giving this kind of precise number makes it look fake

August 25th, 2013, 7:23 am

 

omen said:

1350. zoo said: Death toll lowered from 1300 to 322-355:

international aid group [msf/doctors w/o borders] said it has tallied 355 deaths from the purported chemical weapons attack.

something to consider:

many interesting details in impressive reporting on secret network of informants Western allies have built among them: French intelligence mixing spying with humanitarian aid networks, which seems like a bad precedent for aid workers everywhere.

are french intelligence within msf lowballing death toll? assadi have strong ties with french rightwing establishment.

August 25th, 2013, 7:24 am

 

Alan said:

Welcome to the Middle East and have a nice day! 🙂
Iran is backing Assad. Gulf states are against Assad. Assad is against Muslim-brotherhoods. Muslim-brotherhoods and Obama are against General Sisi.
But gulf states are pro-Sisi, which means they are against Muslim-brotherhoods.
Iran is pro-Hamas, but Hamas is backing Muslim-brotherhoods. Obama is backing Muslim-brotherhoods, yet Hamas is against the US!
Gulf states are pro-US, but Turkey is with Gulf states against Assad. Yet Turkey is pro-Muslim-brotherhoods against General Sisi. And General Sisi. is being backed by the Gulf states.
LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

August 25th, 2013, 7:30 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

dog-poop Chemical athad snorting colonialist donann is now peddling yet another iran propaganda pronorgraphy of sophistry describing the “shocking” finding of two danish nurses who discovered that the “medics” who were treating the victims of chemical assad crime against humanity were faking it because they did not wear protective gears. of course donaan is blinded (happens as a side effect of extensive snorting of dog-poop chemical athad) to the reality of the murderous siege its hyena anti-imperialist (read that anti-semite) friends have been subjecting eastern ghouta to for months now.

A snorter like donaan, who claims to to support the poor and victims of imperialism now shows its obvious colonialist tendencies by chiding the natives for not being “modern” like the danish people are. How racist.

granted, racist-colonialist dog-poop chemical athad snorters don’t want anyone to read the report from MSF showing more than 350 victims only in three hospitals where the organization is present, let alone the hundreds who perished in many ill-equipped besieged makeshift medical points across the Ghouta region.

Next, we should expect zouzou to complain that SNC did not equip these medical points with state-of-the-art facilities. Sophistry of the traitor enjoined by the racism of the defunct-leftist colonialist. A witch-brew of ugliness of souls.

August 25th, 2013, 7:33 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Chemical assad snorters lies exposed
OMEN
zouzou the vulture like dog-poop chemical athad snorter keeps lying and using its sophistry to deceive and confuse the truth. The number 350 reported by Doctors Without Borders pertains only to those who perished in the crime against humanity, in three hospitals in the Damascus region where Doctors Without Border has presence . The report does not include the number of those who perished due to Chemical assad crime against humanity in medical points where the organization does not have presence. The organization is talking about the number of people, its own doctors and medics treated, which is only a fraction of the total.

Now, zouzou is showing interest in forging down the number of chemical assad victims. Doesn’t that show that zouzou and its gang here on SC are convinced that dog-poop Chemical athad is behind this attack and they want to “lower down” the numbers even through deceitful lies and distortions. It is beyond disgusting.

regimists dog-poop chemical athad snorters keep getting caught with their hands in the cesspool of lies and deceptions. Anyone with an iota of decency would have quit lying in shame. They will not. That says it all.

August 25th, 2013, 7:42 am

 

omen said:

french (or any other governments) shouldn’t have spies within aid groups to begin with. what are they hoping to find?

August 25th, 2013, 7:55 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

bare in mind, i have no interest in communicating with dog-poop chemical athad snorters. I am here only so that their lies are exposed right after they spew them on the same pages where they do that. call it documentary real-time verification of their culpability in the crimes against humanity and their feeble efforts to cover for the criminals out of their sectarian and racist motives, of which countless instances have occurred.

August 25th, 2013, 7:56 am

 

omen said:

1459. Alan said: Welcome to the Middle East

i hate when ppl don’t give attribution:

https://twitter.com/Dilmunite/status/371575415128596480

August 25th, 2013, 7:59 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Any news about Ali Kayyali?we may not hear from him anymore

August 25th, 2013, 7:59 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Majed
I am sure he is on the troll’s vip sources of information. May be the dirty troll will give us more news. May be its patron ziad will.

August 25th, 2013, 8:05 am

 

zoo said:

Is Al Nusra becoming the protector of the “oppressed” Sunni Syrians?

Nusra threatens to rocket Alawite villages over alleged chemical attack

DUBAI – Reuters

The head of the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front has pledged to target communities from Syria’s Alawite faith, followed by President Bashar al-Assad, with rockets in revenge for an alleged chemical attack on the outskirts of Damascus, according to an audio recording seen on Sunday.

“For every chemical rocket that had fallen on our people in Damascus, one of their villages will, by the will of God, pay for it,” Abu Mohammad al-Golani said in the recording posted on YouTube.

“On top of that we will prepare a thousand rockets that will be fired on their towns in revenge for the Damascus Ghouta massacre.”

August 25th, 2013, 8:07 am

 

zoo said:

#1463 Hamster

Some h-p on SC won’t hurt anyone. Feel free to spread them.

August 25th, 2013, 8:09 am

 

zoo said:

#1461 Hamster

Doctors Without Border has NO presence in a any hospital in Syria.
If any, please post your source instead of accusing me of posting an information that appeared in a balanced media news.
As far as we know, the information MSF got and published comes from pro-rebels Syrian doctors in rebels held areas.
Other pro-rebels outlet talked about 10,000 affected . It is clear that the rebels want a death scoop, the more the better.

August 25th, 2013, 8:15 am

 

zoo said:

Either Erdogan lies or his allies lie? Turkey is now officially labelled as the only transit point of all the weapons ending up in the hands of its friends, the ‘good’ Islamists who sell them or loose them to the ‘bad’ Islamists. Terrified Jordan has closed its border to weapons and fighters.

Ankara denies arms shipment to Syria via Turkey

AMMAN – Reuters
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ankara-denies-arms-shipment-to-syria-via-turkey.aspx?pageID=238&nid=53178&NewsCatID=352

A senior Turkish diplomat has strictly denied a news report that cited a Syrian rebel operative as saying that 400 tons of arms have been sent into Syria from Turkey.

“As has been the case with similar news reports in the past, this claim is definitely not true,” the diplomat, speaking under condition of anonymity, told the Hürriyet Daily news on Aug. 25, recalling Ankara’s earlier statements that Turkey was not involved in alleged arms deliveries to the Syrian rebels.

Earlier, opposition sources had claimed that 400 tons of arms had been sent into Syria from Turkey to boost insurgent capabilities against Syrian government forces, after a suspected chemical weapons strike on rebellious suburbs of Damascus.

The source said the Gulf-financed shipment, which crossed from the Turkish province of Hatay in the past 24 hours, was one of the single biggest shipments to reach rebel brigades since the uprising turned violent two years ago.

“20 trailers crossed from Turkey and are being distributed to arms depots for several brigades across the north,” Mohammad Salam, a rebel operative who witnessed the crossing from an undisclosed location in Hatay, told Reuters.

August 25th, 2013, 8:24 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Syrian Hamster
I doubt either Ziad,or Zoo will tell us about Ali Kayyali, the news are too bad and disappointing to them.
I want to verify before saying the news

August 25th, 2013, 8:32 am

 

zoo said:

” very little doubts” “almost sure”, “very probably”, “certainly’…
These are the adjective used in news headlines adding some fantasy scenarios on how the Syrian government did it.

Then we read “inconclusive” “not sure” ” not proven” ” need investigation” in the text of the article.

It reminds me of Judith Miller’s fantasy scenarios published by the New-York Times that was instrumental in forcing the attack on Iraq on a false pretext. The technique is to repeat lies until it sounds true.
It’s all about propaganda, but curiously this time the American don’t buy it. They overwhelmingly say no to a US military intervention.

August 25th, 2013, 8:35 am

 

Sami said:

So the irritated bronco from the zoo is claims MSf has no presence in Damascus based on “balanced news”… The MSF website must not be balanced enough for him, or is it unspinable for him so he avoids it?

Brussels/New York, August 24, 2013 — Three hospitals in Syria’s Damascus governorate that are supported by the international medical humanitarian organization Doctors Without Borders Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) have reported to MSF that they received approximately 3,600 patients displaying neurotoxic symptoms in less than three hours on the morning of Wednesday, August 21, 2013. Of those patients, 355 reportedly died.

– See more at: http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/press/release.cfm?id=7029&cat=press-release#sthash.65XVMt19.dpuf

August 25th, 2013, 8:40 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
You sound that US will not respond, this is your prediction, and as your previous predictions all all all failed, I am begining to believe US will respond.
You either naive or suffering from wishful thinking, or both,(most likely) you seem to refuse to see the truth as it is ,you are frequently hallucinating,with illusory ideas, you lost all credibility by all those predictions.
Zoo any news about your friends Ahmad Gharib and Abdulrazzaq hammoud and Hisham Minqara?the criminals who were sent by Assad and bombed Tripoli?

As for revenir he is lately sounding like a bird whose wing feathers has been clipped, he has tendency of saying nasty words,that is how his parents raised him, but he is worried of being banned, it is funny watch him suffering.

August 25th, 2013, 8:51 am

 

zoo said:

2014 may see Egypt coming in force on a new Arab diplomacy.

Turkey will never rule Arab World’ – Egypt’s FM
Published time: August 23, 2013 14:35

http://rt.com/news/egypt-fahmy-minister-interview-865/

A non-Arab state, like Turkey, can’t rule the Arab World, Egypt’s interim foreign minister, Nabil Fahmy, told RT Arabic in an exclusive interview, calling Ankara’s ambitions to restore the Ottoman Empire groundless due to failed relations with neighbors.

Egypt’s interim government has only nine months ahead of it, but during that time Egypt will review its relations with all the countries on the world map, Fahmy said.

The minister stressed that all the attempts by the US and the EU to bring the army-backed government and the pro-Morsi Muslim Brotherhood movement to the negotiations table have failed, because the sides weren’t ready to reach an agreement and lacked mutual trust.

“First of all, it refers to the political Islam movements. The Muslim Brotherhood wanted a return to the past, but it’s impossible and unacceptable for the majority of the Egyptian people,” he said. “It’s not a problem between the Muslim Brotherhood and the government or the leadership of Egypt. It’s a problem between the Muslim Brotherhood and the majority of the Egyptian people.”

The FM stressed that all the attempts of “internationalization” of the Egyptian problem won’t be tolerated and that the crisis in the country will be settled “the Egyptian way.”

Fahmy has slammed Egypt’s foreign policy under Morsi, saying it was too ideological and lacked sense of direction, “hopping between the Eastern and pro-Western course.”

The minister said that it’s going to change under him. He has ordered a revision of Egypt’s relations with all the states on the world map “without exception,” including the US, which had significant influence on the country’s previous government.

“Our decisions will be based on evaluation of how our relations get in line with our [Egypt’s] interests,” he explained.

August 25th, 2013, 8:52 am

 

zoo said:

#1474 Majed

I don’t recall that Damas fell, that Bashar resigned, that Morsi won, that million of Egyptians joined the Syria rebels etc… These are all you fantasy stories that you prefer to call ‘suggestions’ because they are simply failed predictions.

The USA will not attack. Kerry called Ali Muallem to assure him of that and asked him for Syria’s cooperation on the chemical investigation to determine exclusively about what kind of gas was used without pointing fingers. I see the beginning of recognition by the USA that the Syrian government is a far more reliable partner to prevent the growth of Al Qaeda in the region and the protection of the chemical stockpile than the moribund SNC and the desperate Idriss’s militias heavily battered by Al Qaeda.

When is the next assault on Deraa, will Damascus fall soon?
Please use your psychic senses to tell us.
We are all waiting eagerly.

August 25th, 2013, 9:02 am

 

zoo said:

Majed

ISF Denies ‘False’ Media Reports about Tripoli Blasts’ Investigation
24 aug 2013

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/95424-isf-denies-false-media-reports-about-tripoli-blasts-investigation

The Internal Security Forces denied on Saturday reports claiming that explosives were seized and that information were revealed following the deadly blasts in the northern city of Tripoli.

“Media outlets, particularly electronic news platforms, reported news regarding the investigation in Tripoli’s blasts, among them that bombs were seized,” the ISF said in a released statement.

“These reports are not accurate and investigation in this case remains confidential.”

The ISF urged the media “to be careful” in reporting any news, explaining that it is because “they may cause confusion” amid the current situation in the country.

“We demand media outlets to be responsible and to refer to the Public Information section of the ISF for any information about its work.”

August 25th, 2013, 9:06 am

 

zoo said:

Syrian regime sees a tipping point toward victory in civil war
by Lee Keath
Aug 25, 2013

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/08/25/world/syrian-regime-sees-a-tipping-point-toward-victory-in-civil-war/#.UhoCI6znZCR

DAMASCUS – The signs would seem bad for President Bashar Assad. Blasts echo all day long over the Syrian capital as troops battle rebels entrenched on its eastern doorstep. The government admits the economy is devastated. Allegations of a horrific chemical attack have given new life to calls for international action against his regime.

Yet it appears more confident than ever that it weathered the worst and has gained the upper hand in the country’s civil war, even if it takes years for victory.

Deputy Prime Minister Qadri Jamil traces a slow arc in the air with his hand to show how the country has reached a turning point in “the events” — a common euphemism for 2½ years of bloodshed. “The turning point changes the course of things, but it will take a while,” he said. “I don’t think the path downward [from violence] will take as long as the path of escalation did.”

There are multiple reasons for the new sense of assurance. The military scored a string of victories on the ground over the past few months that blunted a rebel surge early in the year. Army offensives stalled or pushed back rebels in Damascus’ suburbs. A rebel drive into a regime heartland in the western province on the Mediterranean coast was swiftly reversed over the past week. The bleeding of defections from the military to the rebellion appears to have slowed.

The regime also believes it has shored up its most serious vulnerability: the economy. Prices for food and clothes have quadrupled in some cases, the Syrian pound has plunged in comparison with the dollar, and the war has crippled production and trade.

But this summer, Syria’s allies Russia and Iran effectively handed the government a lifeline, with credit lines to buy rice, flour, sugar, petroleum products and other staples. With that, the regime hopes it can keep an exhausted population clothed, fed, warm in the winter — and firmly on its side — enough to endure a long fight.

When asked whether Syria will have to pay back the credit lines in the future, Jamil smiled, saying, “It’s between friends.”

Also, the increasing presence of foreign jihadi fighters, many linked to al-Qaida, has played in the regime’s favor. The Islamic militants’ strength has made the United States and its allies wary of sending badly needed weapons to the rebels and of taking direct military action against Assad, for fear of what could come next if he falls.

Those worries could overcome any sense of outrage over the alleged chemical attack Wednesday in a Damascus suburb. Rebels say it killed more than 100 people, including many children. The rebels blamed the attack on the regime, an accusation the government has denied, claiming that foreign jihadis among the rebels were behind it.

Fear of foreign radicals is also a powerful tool for keeping the population’s support for the regime. State television gives a steady stream of reports of the “barbaric” nature of the jihadis.

Even if the regime is confident now that the danger of Assad’s fall has passed, it has seemed unable to take back rebel-held territory in the north and east. The bitterness and sense of vengeance on both sides may never be resolved. And all bets are off if the West, prompted by the images of children killed in Wednesday’s alleged gas attack, takes the dramatic step of direct military action.

August 25th, 2013, 9:14 am

 

zoo said:

#1473 Sami the angry and frustrated ex-moderator

Thank you for confirming that there is not a single MSF doctor present in any hospital in Syria. The reports came specifically from “the hospitals” pro-rebels doctors.
The MSF just ‘support’ these hospitals with medical advices, organization, disease prevention etc…

August 25th, 2013, 9:18 am

 

Alan said:

1464. OMEN
the world Enters into the wall! You can with own hatred entry into the wall too!!!Lol

August 25th, 2013, 9:23 am

 

apple_mini said:

I recommend all of us to read this article:

As Syrian rebels’ losses mount, teenagers begin filling ranks

http://washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/as-syrian-rebels-losses-mount-teenagers-begin-filling-ranks/2013/08/24/2bdbdfea-0a8f-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html

“About half of the 200 new recruits who board buses each week to Syria from Jordan’s sprawling Zaatari refu­gee camp are under 18, U.N. officials at the camp estimate.”

“The families of the young fighters receive monthly benefits from the Free Syrian Army, including salaries and even priority in the distribution of food aid and cash assistance within the camp, refugee officials said. In interviews, several parents — some of whom arrived in Zaatari with little more than the clothes on their backs — said those incentives had influenced their family’s decision.

Um Majed al-Homsawi, 45, said she allowed her 17-year-old son, Ahmed, to return to Syria to fight only after recruiters agreed to provide her family with a fully furnished trailer complete with air conditioning, an upgrade from their standard-issue U.N. canvas tent.

“My daughter has asthma and my husband has had three heart operations — we couldn’t survive in a tent in the desert,” Homsawi said as she placed a kettle atop a propane stove in her recently delivered trailer. “My son decided to join the Free Syrian Army not only to save his country, but to save his family.”

It is an ugly war and the death squat is fighting for its puppet masters. The leaders and commands then bought those teenagers for their owe proxy war.

Rural villages have seen huge loss of militant age Sunni men. Now those Sunni teenagers are filling in the rank and becoming cannon fodder. It makes you feel part of Syria has died and part of her is dying.

Those refugee camps with FSA flags raised attract many media attention when those celebrities and big shot show up for photo op. But underneath, it is a cruel and miserable place run by future Syrian government wannabe.

August 25th, 2013, 9:27 am

 

zoo said:

From the official Doctor without Borders (MSF) web site about its ‘presence’ in Syria
http://www.msf.ca/focus-countries/syria/

“From early 2011, Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) was unable to operate in Syria, and was therefore obliged to suspend its work with migrants and refugees in the capital Damascus”

The widespread unrest in the country, which began in March 2011, made it very difficult for MSF to continue its work inside Syria, and the team had to suspend collaboration with the Migrant’s Office. MSF continued to try to gain access to Syria in order to respond to the humanitarian and medical needs resulting from the violence.

From neighbouring countries, MSF supported Syrian doctors’ work by providing them with medical supplies and essential drugs.

August 25th, 2013, 9:30 am

 

revenire said:

Juergen the New York Times op-ed was also the West’s policy during the Iran-Iraq war: bleed each side to maximize death and destruction.

Plans sometimes fail.

August 25th, 2013, 9:46 am

 

revenire said:

“1438. ANNIE said: The whole site- Syria Deeply – is informative”

It’s trashy, like porn. I can see why your side likes it.

Western traitors would love it.

August 25th, 2013, 9:49 am

 

Ghufran said:

This does not match the 1700 victims that were declared dead by opposition sources but it clearly shows that a chemical agent was released and killed hundred of people:

????? ???? ???????? ?? ?????? ????? ???? ???? ??????? ????????? ?????? ??????? “????? ??? ????”? ???? ??????? ????? ??? ???????? 21 ?????/?? 2013 ????? 3600 ???? ?? ??? ?? ???? ?????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ??????? ??? ??? ????? ???? 355 ??????.
Allowing UN to step in was a good step, I hope this will delay any military attack from the USA . The opposition is publically bragging about receiving 400 tons of weapons in northern Syria.

August 25th, 2013, 9:54 am

 

Sami said:

Irritated Bronco from the Zoo,

Angry I am, frustrated I am not.

I never claimed nor did Syrian Hamster claim that there was a MSF doctor present at those hospitals, the organization does have a presence there since they do provide advice, drugs, equipment and so on.

A reminder of your claim which is a lie:

“Doctors Without Border has NO presence in a any hospital in Syria.”

When in reality they do:

MSF provides medical assistance in Syria through two different approaches. MSF international and Syrian staff operate six hospitals and four health centres in structures fully under the organization’s direct control in the north of Syria. In areas where MSF cannot send its own teams because of insecurity or lack of access, the organization has expanded a program begun two years ago of supporting Syrian medical networks, hospitals and medical posts, by providing drugs, medical equipment, and technical advice and support. Through the latter program, MSF has been supporting 27 hospitals and 56 medical posts throughout Syria.

Keep spinning, lying and deceiving to coverup the truth, not to mention the vulgarity in making jokes over the death of Syrians.

For your information I happen to know one of those “pro-rebel” doctors that volunteer their time and risk their life to provide care to the civilians that are the target of your regimes brutality. He left his life of luxury, his family and security in Canada to help his fellow Syrians in Damascus countryside that have been denied the most basic of care by YOUR REGIME.

Anyone with half a brain would take his word and other Doctors like him over your filthy, vulgar and fabricated lies to spin the truth.

August 25th, 2013, 9:54 am

 

Sami said:

Ghufran,

That number was based from just three hospitals that MSF has setup and assisted. The VDC has a comprehensive with a list of names that are updated:

http://www.vdc-sy.info/index.php/ar/reports//chemicaldamascussuburbs

According to them (and they are nothing but reliable) the number of deaths has reached 1303 martyrs so far.

FYI Razan Zaytouneh has coordinated this report. Folks like her and the late Omar Aziz are the reason Syria as a country will have a sliver of a chance to survive the brutality unleashed by Assad and the sectarian hatred and killing spree both sides are guilty of now.

August 25th, 2013, 10:05 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Under threat of imminent attack, The regime succumbed,
Now Assad blood sugar is sky high

August 25th, 2013, 10:15 am

 

revenire said:

Majed I thought you wanted the UN to inspect?

August 25th, 2013, 10:28 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
You don’t make sense anymore.
Sure I want inspection, shake your brain, may be you did not drink your coffee, or are you under the influence?

August 25th, 2013, 10:33 am

 

ghufran said:

I was not suggesting that 300 deaths was not good enough, but I learned to be careful before I accept anything that comes from either side of the conflict, lying is now a national sport in Syria. The images of those children who died will haunt most of us for years to come, I want those who killed innocent kids to be caught and be punished even if they were from my hometown. Allowing the UN to investigate should not offend anybody who wants the truth, as long as the UN conducts an impartial investigation. islamist rebels experimented on chemical agents as early as 2012 and released videos of their lab, and Turkish security officers arrested Nusra terrorists with chemical agents, and I can go on an on. The West is more worried that CW are being used by Islamists because they know the Syrian army already has CW and is far less likely to use them compared to a rouge terrorist group because soldiers are under the authority of politicians who want to stay in power and do not want to be arrested or killed, that is not the case with Nusra and other terrorist groups. A state army , regardless of how bad their government is, is much easier to control than terrorist groups especially when it comes to the use of CW, unfortunately I believe that those terrorists now have access to some of those weapons, may be the primitive type, and may very well have used them or plan to use them in Syria and outside Syria, this is exactly why the West is very worried about this attack (and not because they care about Syrians) even if they still may use it to justify a strike against the Syrian army, do not let tharthariyyeh on this blog distract you from the real story even if they “look educated” .

August 25th, 2013, 10:36 am

 

revenire said:

Majed you’re disappointed there was no attack. I can tell.

August 25th, 2013, 10:42 am

 

revenire said:

I think after this inspection the usual suspects will cry that Syria has doctored the results. They will claim the results are skewed. Has to happen that way. If the government was afraid of the results why let the UN in? For fear of an attack? The US isn’t going to attack Syria in any meaningful way – maybe a missile will get launched but it won’t be an all-out attack. The US is afraid.

August 25th, 2013, 10:48 am

 

ghufran said:

Here we go:

???? ??? ???? ???????? ??????? ????? ?? ???? ??????? ???? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?? ?????? ?????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ???????.
???? ???????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ??? ??? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ??????? ??? ????? “????? ??????”: “?? ????? ????? ??????? ??? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ??? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ??????? ??? ?????? ???????”.
????? ???????? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????????: ” ??? ??? ??? ?? ????? ??????” ??????? ?????? ??????? “??? ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ?????? ??”.
????? ???????? ?? ???? ????? ?? ???? ????? “????? ????? ????? ??????” ??? ????? ??? ??? ????? “????????” ???? ????? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?? ?????.
??? ???? ???????? ???? ???????? ??? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? “???????” ????? ????? ?????.
???? ???????? ?? ????? ???? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?? ??????? ?????? “?? ????? ????? ??? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ????? ????? ??? ??? ?????” ???? ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??????
do not fool yourself, the real enemy is not the Syrian army or any other Syrian who took arms to defend his family or his town, the real enemy is Nusra, ISIS and all similar groups who live to kill or die.

August 25th, 2013, 10:50 am

 

zoo said:

#1487 Angry Sami

I do not deny that there has been a release of toxic gas in a way of another in several areas of Syria, including Ghuta and that there has been hundred of innocents victims. Curiously the MSF “supported” hospitals have not been able yet to identify the gas used after examining 10,000 patients.
Yet it is not because it happened in rebels held areas that it would point to the Syrian government as the culprit, the way many newspapers and you try to imply. Rebels have been violently fighting each other for the last few month for supremacy over each others. It would be too naive and simplistic to ignore that possibility.

In my view, the chance of finding the culprit is almost null. It was a well planned operation with a massive propaganda ready to spin immediately. It will be extremely hard to make a thorough investigation as long as the area is the theater of fights. In any case that is not the mission of the UN CW team. They are supposed only to identify the gas used, that’s all.

The result this operation has achieved is to kill more innocents without achieving the planned goal of forcing a military intervention.

I hope that it will now result in the holding of the Geneva conference without any conditions at the earliest to prevent such tragedy to reoccur.

August 25th, 2013, 10:54 am

 
 

omen said:

i’m pretty sure you don’t buy this argument, juergen.

1449. Juergen said:
In Syria, America Loses if Either Side Wins

August 25th, 2013, 11:13 am

 

omen said:

1465. majedkhaldoun said:
Any news about Ali Kayyali? we may not hear from him anymore.

if someone this notorious was killed, wouldn’t rebels celebrate & shout from the rooftops till everyone heard?

August 25th, 2013, 11:16 am

 

ghufran said:

it is statements like this one that makes people believe the West just wants to bomb Syria no matter what, this “source” is not serving the interest of the US:

“Based on the reported number of victims, reported symptoms of those who were killed or injured, witness accounts, and other facts gathered by open sources, the U.S. intelligence community, and international partners, there is very little doubt at this point that a chemical weapon was used by the Syrian regime against civilians in this incident,” the official told Reuters.
The official made clear the Syrian government’s agreement to let United Nations inspectors visit the site of an alleged chemical weapons attack was inadequate.
“At this juncture, any belated decision by the regime to grant access to the U.N. team would be considered too late to be credible, including because the evidence available has been significantly corrupted as a result of the regime’s persistent shelling and other intentional actions over the last five days,” the official said.

doomed if you let them in, doomed if you do not !!

August 25th, 2013, 11:25 am

 

zoo said:

Will the armed rebels holding the area obey the hated SNC and allow the UN inspectors in? Can’t there be another attack while they are there?

The Syrian government has agreed to let United Nations inspectors investigate the site of an alleged chemical weapons attack, it was announced Sunday.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/25/20179917-syria-to-let-un-inspectors-visit-site-of-alleged-chemical-weapons-attack

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon’s office said in a statement on Sunday that Syria had promised to observe a ceasefire at the site in the suburbs of Damascus while a U.N. team begins “on-site fact-finding activities” starting Monday.

The Syrian government has agreed to let United Nations inspectors investigate the site of an alleged chemical weapons attack, it was announced Sunday.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon’s office said in a statement on Sunday that Syria had promised to observe a ceasefire at the site in the suburbs of Damascus while a U.N. team begins “on-site fact-finding activities” starting Monday.

August 25th, 2013, 11:28 am

 

Alan said:

U.S. President Barack Obama is the desire for war in Syria clone of its predecessor – George W. Bush made ??the decision to attack Iraq. This opinion was expressed by the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation ??????? Pushkov in his blog on the social network Twitter.

“As in the case of Iraq, the military operation against Syria would be illegitimate, -Pushkov . – Obama, irresistibly moving towards this war, in this case, would be a clone of Bush.”

Earlier on Sunday, Pentagon chief Chuck Hagel said that “the U.S. armed forces are ready to intervene militarily in Syria in the event that such a decision will be made by President Obama. On behalf of the President, we have worked on all scenarios, including military intervention.”

However, Obama himself is not in a hurry to give the order to invade Syria, and on Friday in an interview with CNN spoke out against such a development without a UN mandate. However, he noted that the United States intends to seek the ouster of the current President Bashar al-Assad.
See Video !
http://www.rg.ru/2013/08/25/pushkov-site-anons.html

August 25th, 2013, 11:32 am

 

revenire said:

Of course the US says it is too late for the UN. According to the all-powerful Obama it’s all decided – 500,000 must die in cruise missile attacks, followed by carpet bombing of Syrian cities. This is what they call freedom.

August 25th, 2013, 11:33 am

 

zoo said:

#1499 Ghufran

The “US official” must be a close friend of Israel and a neo-con. Like about Iran nuclear capabilities, people like him will keep calling the USA for a military intervention to put an end to it and protect the ‘allies’ in the region i.e Israel.

We will soon hear again the USA ridiculous motto: “all the options are on the table”

August 25th, 2013, 11:35 am

 

zoo said:

Alam

“However, he noted that the United States intends to seek the ouster of the current President Bashar al-Assad.”

The USA “intended” to keep Morsi in power and he is gone.

People decide not the USA…

August 25th, 2013, 11:42 am

 

Alan said:

Al-Nusra threatens to rocket Alawite villages over alleged chemical attack
The head of the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front has pledged to target communities from Syria’s Alawite faith, followed by President Bashar al-Assad, with rockets in revenge for an alleged chemical attack on the outskirts of Damascus, according to an audio recording seen on Sunday.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_08_25/Al-Nusra-threatens-to-rocket-Alawite-villages-over-alleged-chemical-attack-2476/

August 25th, 2013, 11:49 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenire is getting hysterical
He said
The US is afraid.
and later he said
– 500,000 must die in cruise missile attacks

It seems the question of military action against Assad regime has been made, now When,and how strong such attack are the questions.striking the airports and Assad airforced seems the minimum Obama may do, Assad may send his planes to Iraq, to save his pilots and their planes.
I said before it is slippery slope, either Assad accept such attack,or retaliate by using CW again, neither Persia nor Russia will do anything, they understand the reason, Assad made mistake and he has to pay for it.Assad may make another mistake ,now that he is getting irrational,and attack Israel, this will put an end to his life

Revenire my heart is pumping fast it is 67/m,it used to be 60

August 25th, 2013, 11:54 am

 

SANDRO LOEWE said:

1502. revenire

“Of course the US says it is too late for the UN. According to the all-powerful Obama it’s all decided – 500,000 must die in cruise missile attacks, followed by carpet bombing of Syrian cities. This is what they call freedom.”

Are you talking about what Obama will probably never do or about what Assad has already done…? Because it sound familiar to me.

August 25th, 2013, 11:56 am

 

zoo said:

The significance of Kerry’s call to Moallem

The announcement that the Syrian government has allowed UN inspectors to investigate just after Kerry’s phone call to Moallem is not a coincidence.
Kerry has not called Jarba, he has called Moallem

As I explained ealier, there seem to be a secret deal between the Syrian government and the USA.
The content of the deal is left to speculation. My opinion is that it has to do with the USA assuring the Syrian government of its full collaboration in the war against islamist terrorists, with the Geneva conference that Kerry intends to force down the throat of the opposition and with the current Israel-Palestinian rounds of negotiations. Moallem assured Kerry that Syria has no intention of supporting Hamas anymore since it turned away from Syria into the arms of the MB, therefore it will not play as a show-stopper to the negotiations. .

Overall, I see Kerry’s call as positive sign for Bashar al Assad and an negative one for the opposition.

August 25th, 2013, 11:57 am

 

zoo said:

Majed

Another “prediction” or just a “suggestion”?

“It seems the question of military action against Assad regime has been made, now When,and how strong such attack are the questions.striking the airports and Assad airforced seems the minimum Obama may do, Assad may send his planes to Iraq, to save his pilots and their planes.”

August 25th, 2013, 12:01 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Zoo
I like the strike to develope before sept 11

August 25th, 2013, 12:10 pm

 

revenire said:

Sandro Loewe I am talking about WMD LIES, like in Iraq where 500,000 died because of the yellowcake lies. I am talking about 500,000 dead Syrians.

August 25th, 2013, 12:22 pm

 

ghufran said:

NATO may strike but that will only make a bad situation worse and I do believe that a major attack will lead to a major response that will go beyond Syria, so I am hoping that NATO will either stay out of this or do enough to please war mongers but not more to risk a wider confrontation. The calls by some Syrians on NATO to bomb Syria tells a lot about the callers and what type of people they are, you do your math.

August 25th, 2013, 12:28 pm

 

revenire said:

Majed it is a pity you can’t be in Damascus if the cruise missiles start flying.

The same goes for the rest of those cheering for the US and Israel to attack Syria and murder Syrians.

August 25th, 2013, 12:32 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Revenir
Why don’t you go there, then we don’t have to ask Mr. barber to ban you anymore

August 25th, 2013, 12:37 pm

 

revenire said:

The mask come off…

Israel’s interest: That Assad not be victoriousOn the eve of what seems to be imminent US action in Syria, two local experts reach similar conclusions about Jerusalem’s preferred scenarios
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-interest-that-assad-not-be-victorious/

Brig. Gen. (ret) Shlomo Brom, a senior research fellow at the Institute of National Security Studies, said his view has changed over the course of the brutal war in Syria. “At first, I was one of those who said that the best possible scenario is that Assad put down the rebellion like his father did,” said Brom, a former head of the IDF’s Strategic Planning Division. His thinking at the time, he said, was that if Syria was deterred by Israel, the chances of war were slim to none, and he believed that Assad, despite his ties to Hezbollah and Iran, sincerely sought a peace agreement with Israel.

“But now Syria has begun playing on a much bigger court,” Brom said Sunday, noting that the Syrian civil war had pitted Saudi Arabia and Qatar against Iran and, to a certain extent, the US against Russia. “Therefore, Israel’s interest is that he not be victorious,” he said of Assad.

August 25th, 2013, 12:38 pm

 

revenire said:

Free Syrian Army Instructions: “It is forbidden to kill believer lice growing in blessed beards”

Last week a new fatwa, or religious advisory opinion, appeared in Aleppo -Syria prohibiting shaving lice infested beards or attempting to kill the ‘believer lice growing in blessed beards’ under a medieval sort of punishment.

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) – Free Syrian Army (FSA) is an imaginary name for an umbrella that provides a cover to different death squads brought into Syria and home-grown ones to ‘promote democracy’ and ‘freedom’ by the US regime and stooges. The members of these groups follow an anti-Islamic doctrine known as Wahhabism which was invented by the Brits to distort the image of Islam from within and further their political goals using their victims to do so just like how they created Zionism to distort the image of Judaism from within and further their political goals using their victims to do so.

The following is not fiction and is not a fairy tale, many lost their lives for lesser reasons in Syria and Iraq and everywhere US planted their death squads under the different anti-Islamic Muslim radical groups, from Afghanistan to Mali and even within western countries like the case of Woolwich beheading for instance. A child was shot dead in Aleppo in front of his family for refusing to sell ‘Mujaheddin’ on the book! 3 other children killed a few days ago for not memorizing how many Rukaa (kneeling) are there in the Fajr (Dawn) prayers. A child had his tongue cut for not fasting during Ramadan. All documented crimes the UNHRW and other ‘humanitarian’ agencies decide not to investigate or condemn.

Last week a new fatwa, or religious advisory opinion, appeared in Aleppo prohibiting shaving lice infested beards or attempting to kill the ‘believer lice growing in blessed beards’ under a medieval sort of punishment. The following is the closest to literal translation to our best, and we do welcome better suggestions for the translation.

http://www.abna.ir/a/uploads//423%5C4%5C423497.jpg

Aleppo Sharia Court – Lice Protecting

Translation:

Sharia Authority in Aleppo

By the name of God most merciful most gracious

Circulation number (12)

Thanks to God and prayers and greetings to our master Muhammad and his family and companions, then..

The Sharia Authority in Aleppo has prohibited the killing of lice that appears in the Muslim beard, as some of the Muslim brothers who have released [grown] their beards in accordance with prophet Muhammad PBuH Sunnah [prophet’s doctrine], blessed lice has appeared in their beards, and that’s because of their lack of bathing due to the water non-availability all the time on the Jihad [holy war] fronts, and they have limited to ablution before their prayers (may God accept it), thus their beards became moist and thick, which made of it (in God’s will) a natural place for lice to live in.

The Sharia Authority in Aleppo recommends the Mujahideen [holy fighters] brothers to dye their beards with Henna, like our prophet Muhammad PBuH, the thing that would reduce the itching caused by the lice, and to maintain this lice that would have not appeared in those blessed beards, if it was not from God’s Muslim believing creatures.

Who disobeys this Sharia fatwa [advisory opinion] which has been confirmed right by a number of the senior scholars in Aleppo, will be punished with 50 lashes by Sharia, and other measures will be taken against him in the Shaira Court in Aleppo.

And God was behind our intent.

9 Shawwal 1434 Hijri
16 August 2013 Christian

Sharia Authority Presidency
[Seal] Sheikh Abu Muhammad
[Signature]

End of Translation.

August 25th, 2013, 12:40 pm

 

ghufran said:

Patrick Cockburn- /www.independent.co.uk
Sunday 25 August 2013

Russia’s re-emergence is not the only factor restraining America. For all the wringing of hands in Washington and Western Europe about the human tragedy, the present situation is not entirely against their interests. Syria, so long the heart of opposition to the West and Israel in the Arab world, is, for now, fragmented and weak. Any decisive outcome ending the war carries with it clear risks for Western interests. If President Bashar al-Assad wins then this is a defeat for them and a success for Iran and Hezbollah. If he is defeated then al-Qa’ida-linked organisations, such the al-Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – increasingly the most effective military component of the opposition – will be among those who replace him. The US, Britain and France may want the war to end but only on their own terms – probably involving the decapitation of the government, but stopping well short of revolutionary change.
(Patrick believes that the Syrian army did use CW in Reef Damascus)

August 25th, 2013, 12:55 pm

 

apple_mini said:

Last time US administration concluded Syrian army had used CW on small scale after they collected their “evidence” months later after those so-called attacks occurred.

This time after Syrian government granted access for UN inspectors 4 days after the alleged attack. US administration suggested the move may be too late, after “the regime’s persistent shelling” has “significantly corrupted” evidence in the area.

4 days is too late for Syrian government but several months is not that late for US government. US administration no longer needs to hide its malicious and rogue nature.

The wheels of US war machine are rolling. Countries like Syria won’t be able to stop it. The question is whether this is enough to trigger huge outcry from US population and the backlash will be enough to push a confrontation between public and the democratically elected “ruling elites”. Overwhelmingly public opinion is against US intervention.

August 25th, 2013, 1:27 pm

 

don said:

5 killed, 20 injured in Damascus blast

The news agency says a rocket hit the Burj al-Rous district on Saturday, causing widespread damage. TV footage also shows pictures of fire engines and firefighters extinguishing burning cars. The area of the explosion is surrounded by shops and homes.

http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20130825/100523.shtml

August 25th, 2013, 1:53 pm

 

Alan said:

Russia, China, Iran,N. Korea, Brix, Alba states: You have a great work to do for Syria!Syrian Arab people is always a friend to you and thank you for your efforts!

August 25th, 2013, 1:56 pm

 

don said:

Exclusive: CCTV reporter at ground zero after Syria “chemical” attack

Amidst claims and counter-claims of chemical weapons attack in the Ghouta suburb of Damascus, CCTV reporter Wang Weiwei was able to enter the area to ascertain the truth for herself.

This place is safe to enter only in an armored vehicle. Ghouta has been a battleground between government and rebel forces for over 4 months.

Some 500 meters from this building, soldiers claim they came under chemical weapons attack. The government has just taken control of the building after a large-scale military operation last Wednesday.

“As soon as we got here, we could smell something peculiar. I don’t know where the smell is coming from. Maybe we’ll find out, if we enter the building,” CCTV reporter Wang Weiwei said.

The basement of the building is huge….with all rooms, but one destroyed….

Hand grenades…mortar bombs….adhesive tapes….chemical fertilizers…detonators…everything you need to make explosives, are all here.

It’s these barrels which are most disconcerting.

“These gas masks were left by opposition fighters. Government forces told us not to touch these barrels. I asked them what’s inside; they told me they don’t know,” Wang Weiwei said.

There are also some medicines here. Some soldiers say these have been used to treat injuries caused by chemical weapons.

The army doctor said that there were 36 cases of suspected chemical weapon attacks. Some soldiers are being treated in a military hospital now.

“I heard an explosion. Not a big one, but a small one as I was trying to enter a stronghold held by militants. Then I smelled something weird. It was hard to stand that smell. Then I experienced headaches and difficulty in breathing. My fellow soldiers experienced the same symptoms. We cannot see things clearly,” an “attack” victim said.

http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20130825/102556.shtml

August 25th, 2013, 1:58 pm

 

Ghufran said:

???????? ??????? ??????? ??? ????????? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?? ???????? ?????? ????
Hama’s governor is assassinated
?? ???? ? ??? ??????

August 25th, 2013, 1:59 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

It is fun time
?? ????? ?????????

August 25th, 2013, 2:27 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Expect some major incidents to occur. Incidents significant enough to steal the attention away from the current talk of regime guilt and seemingly inevitable move to intervention.

The regime is under the cosh. An incident to distract, outrage, buy some moral high ground and position the regime as victim.

It’s been done before in this uprising.

I hope we don’t see any such incidents.

They’ll have other damage limitation tactics and strategies in their manual rady to use.

August 25th, 2013, 2:54 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Will intervention be decided (or begin) before this thread reaches 2000 comments?

PS:

Dear spammers

Do not spam the forum to prove question wrong.

August 25th, 2013, 2:57 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Manna’ is against any foreign intervention, he said that his group has the names of about 500 victims who died in Ghoutah:

??? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ??????? ??????? ???? ??????? ??????????? ?? ???? ????? ????? ????? ???? ??? ??????? ???????? ???????? ?????????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ????????? ????? ?????.
???? ????? ?? (?? ?? ??) ????? ????? “?? ???? ??????? ???? ?? ???? ????? ????? ????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??????? ??????? ??? ????? ??????”.
????? “?? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??? ????????? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ???????? ????? ??????? ??????? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ??????? ?????? ????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ????? ??????? ???????”.
????? “?????? ??? ??? ????? ?? ????????? ??? ???????? ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ?? ?? ????? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ???????? ????? 50% ??? ????? ?? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ????? ???? ??? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ????? ????? ??????? ?????? ???? ????? ??????? ??? ?? ?? ???? ?? ???? ????? ?? ???? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????”.
3 areas in Damascus are likely to change hands:
Yarmouk, alhajar Alaswad and muaddamiyeh
We all know who is ? ????? ?????????
Until there is an agreement to confront foreign fighters this war is not likely to end any time soon. If the news about a Geneva 2 in mid October are true you can conclude that any military action by NATO will be cosmetic at best, UN sources are making preparations for the conference and Ibrahimi is moving his office to Geneva.

August 25th, 2013, 3:12 pm

 

Syrian said:

It is nerve-racking time for the regime apologist of Chemical Bashar.
Russia so far have not said anything to calm their fears down.
After the early slogan of the blessed revolution” the stupidity of the regime is our best weapon”have been proven to be true around the globe. they are at loss for how to fix the latest disaster.
You can even see it here on SC, old commenter coming back to help the regular propagandists in their efforts. the gray commentator can not hide his true feeling anymore. Picking on the elimination of major known murder since his early adulthood to curse all anti Chemical Bashar no matter who they are,
To the Lebanese, and the volger” half Sunni” half not so mysterious other half minority. It is going to be very long week. Stock up on antidepressant and drink lots of coffee,grueling work ahead of you.

August 25th, 2013, 3:12 pm

 

Juergen said:

Carla del Ponte:

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

“Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/

August 25th, 2013, 3:15 pm

 

revenire said:

Carla del Ponte’s revelation back in May was treated with derision by the corrupt West. I am surprised she hasn’t been murdered for saying that.

August 25th, 2013, 3:16 pm

 

Syrian said:

It is too late to allow credible investigation into the chemical massacre. Had the regime had nothing to hide, it would have ceased military operation in Ghota and allowed the UN team instantaneous unfettered access to the area. The regime only allowed access after it burned the area to erase any possible evidence.

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August 25th, 2013, 3:17 pm

 

Tara said:

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It is too late to allow credible investigation into the chemical massacre. Had the regime had nothing to hide, it would have ceased military operation in Ghota and allowed the UN team instantaneous unfettered access to the area. The regime only allowed access after it burned the area to erase any possible evidence.

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August 25th, 2013, 3:26 pm

 

Syrian said:

JUERGEN
This Is Carla del Ponte chance to repair her damaged repution after that false statement she made and later retracted, that caused her to being discribed as a limelight chaser with few other statements that later also turned out to be inaccurate,

August 25th, 2013, 3:33 pm

 

Tara said:

Pro massacre commenters are grossly agitated. And Batta is now in a helmet and diaper.

I insist that all diapers worn by the first family signed by Christian Luboutin. Otherwise, I am afraid that our world image will be shaken.

August 25th, 2013, 3:44 pm

 

ghufran said:

Time posted an article about Syrian refugees in Egypt:

Egypt’s Military-Backed Government Cracks Down on Syrian Refugees
As Egypt’s new government solidifies its power, Syrian refugees face growing vitriol and arrests

By Sam Kimball / Cairo Aug. 24, 2013

Even if the war stops tomorrow, it will take a decade or more to bring those refugees back and find housing and jobs for them, none of that seemed to have affected HBJ, Erdugang and the rest of the thugs who pushed for war in Syria.

A Hamwi friend said that Hama’s governor who was assassinated today is a medical doctor who despite his Baathist credentials was acceptable to a large section of Hamwis, he has no military background and was not implicated in any crimes against civilians.
The ease at which rebels justify their despicable actions is the reason why they failed to win public support.
This just came in:
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I do not know how some of you still support Nusra and live in the West.

August 25th, 2013, 3:48 pm

 

Badr said:

If only the inspectors would and could still get to the bottom of what happened in the Ghouta area, especially naming culprits!

Statement of the Spokesperson for Ban Ki-moon

“The Secretary-General has instructed the Mission under Dr. Sellström, currently in Damascus, to focus its attention on ascertaining the facts of the 21 August incident as its highest priority. The Mission is preparing to conduct on-site fact-finding activities, starting tomorrow, Monday, 26 August.”

August 25th, 2013, 4:04 pm

 

ghufran said:

I thought there are enough men who are willing to fight the “evil” Syrian army:

UN reported that half of the new recruits for Syrian rebels in Zataari refugee camps are teenagers. This happens under the watchful eyes of the half-irish Jordanian King who is now getting paid by KSA to allow terrorists to wage a new campaign inside Syria.

August 25th, 2013, 4:05 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Regarding my theory #1 (Assad recovering from assassination attempt and seeking revenge), I said yesterday how I wasn’t too serious about that theory. Later the FSA chief echoed the theory.

Having thought about it, it isn’t so far-fetched. If there was an attempt on Assad and he survived, escaped and/or recovered it is possible he and the regime (particularly the military/security services) will have been shaken to the core. They will have realised the frigility of their situation. If Assad had been killed or seriously hurt it could have ended the regime as it’s prospects presumably heavily depend on him.

Any close shave assassination attempt will have terrified them and the rebels will have shown they are getting closer (along with advances in Damascus) and closing in. Fear, panic and anger may have seen the regime turn to it’s chemical stockpiles.

So it’s possible.

August 25th, 2013, 4:06 pm

 

Ali said:

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August 25th, 2013, 4:30 pm

 

Ali said:

1- The massacre was conducted by the opposition, they kidnapped the kids, gathered them in three main spots and gassed them

2- There will be no war at all, the communication channels are wide open with main capitals of the war

3- Till now no panic within the Syrian army because they don’t take these empty threats seriously

4- If somebody decided to play crazy then the fire will breakout from Mecca to Jerusalem no exception

I hope you all understand these messages quite well and pass them TWIMC

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August 25th, 2013, 4:37 pm

 

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August 25th, 2013, 4:41 pm

 

annie said:

unday, August 25, 2013
Airstrikes on Syria by Maysaloon

Let’s get one thing clear. Nobody is coming to help Syrians because they are getting killed. They are coming to help Syrians because nobody wants chemical warfare to become a norm and especially for countries like North Korea and Iran to start using them “because somebody else did it too”. In essence the behaviour of states in the international system is primitive and infantile, however thick the books on international relations may get. The basic rules of international relations are about as complex as the politics of siblings fighting over their toys. Possession is nine-tenths of ownership, what happens when the parents aren’t looking never happened, and the strongest will get to impose their will on the weakest unless they meet somebody stronger.

full article here http://www.maysaloon.org/2013/08/airstrikes-on-syria.html

August 25th, 2013, 4:41 pm

 

Ali said:

Annie a.k.a Maysaloon

There will be no war, no international intervention, and nobody is coming to aid these terrorists.

What’s happening in Syria is purely internal affairs with some minor complications. It should stay within and only for Syrians so please stay out of it.

August 25th, 2013, 4:48 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

Good news that Syria has agreed to facilitate the UN mission in Damascus. Good news for besieged residents in east Ghouta, and good news for all military ‘sides’ — because the essential precondition to any UN visit is that the opposed armed forces commit to cease fire during the UN evidence-gathering.

On the other hand, as ZOO has pointed out, the most that the mission can determine is whether or not chemical weapons were deployed. We are not going to read in their report any whodunnit conclusions (I can imagine, however, that the inspectors will be mobbed — by people eager to tell their versions of events).

What particular kinds of evidence will be gathered, I don’t know. I cannot think of an historic precedent, any situation where a third party has conducted chemical weapon tests on an active battlefield. I wonder then if the mission will even record ‘witnesses’?

I also wonder if any media will be able to accompany the mission.

One thing to bear in mind is that battlefield medicos in the affected areas have not sat on their asses since Wednesday. I fully expect that biological sampling and evidence-gathering has been underway on a large scale. Syrian medical staff are not stupid — those who were in the area of the alleged chemical attacks will have an abundance of information for the mission.

A ceasefire, even in so small an area, is a good thing. For the duration of the UN visits, those areas will be off-limits to the SAA. No bombing, no rockets, no mortars …

Good news.

August 25th, 2013, 4:50 pm

 

Ali said:

All of you should pay attention to the SUPER fact that till now al-ASSAD did not put on his military uniform. If he does that then say good bye not to individuals but to countries and regions.

As long no military uniform yet then nothing to worry about

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August 25th, 2013, 4:57 pm

 

apple_mini said:

If the west does get into direct military intervention, it simply means more death.

Ironically, the more the foreign forces back the opposition and its death squad, the more support the regime will get from people in Syria. Unless the west is determined to go all the way to topple the current government. Assad is not going anywhere.

By teaming up with those foreign state attackers, the opposition has sold the country and lost more political support inside Syria.

Clearly the opposition is only driven by greed for power and relying on military support and intervention from the west and GCC. Strategically, it is a gamble. If they can get support and intervention enough to turn the table, then they can get what they have been fighting for. Any other half-way backing will be countered by losing of support from general population which the opposition has been trying to win over.

The war does not seem to be ready to end anytime soon. Popular support could dictate the winner in the end.

August 25th, 2013, 5:02 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

CHEMICAL ATROCITY – THEORY #8

The regime watched how the Egyptian military was ‘getting away with it’ with the US and the world community turning a blind eye or offering only rhetoric.

The regime, like many of us, was probably anticipating/expecting incremental escalation of the Egyptian crisis, or even for it to explode, with the worlds attention increasingly dominated by the situation.

What better time to carry out a ‘necessary’ action (from regime’s point of view) with the world reluctant to turn it’s attention from Egypt to an initially denied incident and then disputed he-said-she-said scenario.

Was the regime confident it could get away with it? Was this reflected in the regimists announcing that Sisi and Assad were fighting the same enemy/challenge? The US/West supporting the former thus presumably will privately turn a blind eye for the latter?

Azzam Tamimi ???? ?@AzzamTamimi 22 Aug
Having seen #Egypt’s Sisi get away with mass murder #Syria’s Bashar thought he could get away with mass murder using chemical weapons

August 25th, 2013, 5:05 pm

 

ghufran said:

further proof that the FSA is disintegrating to the benefit of Nusra:
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source: askalser (opposition)

The goal was never freedom and democracy, the goal was the destruction of Syria and its assets including CW which may have helped to deter Israel from dominating Syria and Lebanon:

Israeli President Shimon Peres, on Sunday called for the removal of all chemical weapons from Syria.

Egypt is next with Erdugang and Qatar helping to build an FEA (free Egyptian army):
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August 25th, 2013, 5:07 pm

 

Ali said:

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Did you know that president al-ASSAD put his wife and daughter in nursing training camp for the popular army – women wing?

A man like that who puts himself and family like any other patriot Syrian citizens is simply a real man.

August 25th, 2013, 5:14 pm

 

Ali said:

Your Gulf kings and princes send their wives and daughters to burn money and sleep around, while our al-ASSAD is sending them to nursing class to help Syrians.

August 25th, 2013, 5:19 pm

 
 

Ali said:

The terrorists allies on this website should be worried of the next day aftermath.

The second Syria and U.S. reach to an agreement of how to deal with terrorists (maybe gas them), everyone of you will be chased and hunted down by his country’s intelligence.

The big brother is always there watching and recording everything.

August 25th, 2013, 5:35 pm

 

apple_mini said:

I think the so-called US national interest exposed to danger is truly the national interest of Israel. Israel has long been hoping to get rid of any potential threat from neighboring countries, in particular CW possessed by SAA.

Regardless what has happened this time in Ghouta, the hawkish side has won the argument in US administration.

Irony is that the situation will be even more grave if the rebels indeed carried the toxic attack.

US administration is also anxiously waiting for UN inspectors’ report. What exactly has been used and who possesses it will have consequential reactions from US administration.

Nevertheless US and Israel will not pass their opportunities to achieve some strategic goal for the sake of Israel.

The only problem is that unlike Iraq in 2003, US government is having hard time to sell its argument to general population. This is where some unseen twists can come into play and ruin their plans and schemes.

August 25th, 2013, 5:53 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

The ‘Reluctant Intervention’

Over 2 years late and after much dithering and feet dragging. The American people won’t be so hostile to this non-rush to intervention…

August 25th, 2013, 5:59 pm

 

Wiki Leaks said:

There is some information coming out from SAA that some very high ranking officers close to Assad unleashed the chemical weapons attack without his knowledge. It says those officers were close to Rifaat Al Assad, his estranged uncle, and that some trap had been set up for Assad before to accept the UN chemical weapons inspecters into the country to investigate earlier incidents (some of which did involve the FSA, leading him to think it was to his advantage to let them investigate.) Then foreign intellegence services got his army to launch that attack on Ghouta with the help of his uncles loyalists. Assad is now trying damage control, but it is no use. The operation to remove him by force is now in its final stages, with two possible endings at this point: a palace kill by one of his uncles loyalists, which is plan A (and the hoped-for outcome because it will help redeem the Alawites), or a Ghaddafi end, which is plan B.

August 25th, 2013, 6:11 pm

 

Syrian said:

From the very reliable alquds Alarabi
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August 25th, 2013, 6:21 pm

 

don said:

Why inaction is the best response on Syria

Although it may be tempting to agree that Obama should now escalate his response against the Syrian regime, doing so would be a mistake. The United Nations estimates that over 100,000 people have been killed so far in this ongoing crisis. While the use of chemical weapons is shocking, it is important to remember that the deaths caused by non-conventional weapons are only a small percentage of the total casualties in this conflict. Is the life of a Syrian slaughtered by mortar fire less valuable than one killed by poison gas? If all Syrian lives are equal, there is no reason why the use of chemical weapons should lead America to escalate its intervention. At the same time, it is important to remember that despite the high death toll, this is a civil war and not genocide. Both sides have committed human rights violations, and both are equipped with the means to flight.

Obama declared over a year ago that “we have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus.”

Nonetheless, during the past year – even after several reports of chemical weapons use – Obama never significantly altered American policy. In this case, Obama’s error was not his inaction in Syria, but rather announcing before the world that America had a red line in Syria when no such line existed. Instead of speaking softly and carrying a big stick, Obama did the opposite.

In a recent letter to Congressman Eliot Engel, the head of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Joint Chiefs chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey opposed attempts to increase American military involvement in the conflict. Dempsey said, “In a variety of ways, the use of military force can change the balance, but it cannot resolve the underlying and historic ethnic, religious and tribal issues that are fueling this conflict.”

Such a skeptical statement by the Joint Chiefs chairman speaks volumes about how the military views the potential success of American involvement.

With opponents of Assad including al-Nusra, labeled a terrorist group by the US State Department, the idea of funneling advanced weapons to anti-Assad militias remains dangerous to US interests.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Why-inaction-is-the-best-response-on-Syria-324215

August 25th, 2013, 6:37 pm

 

don said:

Will chemical weapons inspection in Syria be prelude to Iraqi scenario?

DAMASCUS – With the arrival of UN chemical weapons inspection team in Syria, many Syrians began to wonder: whether the international community is searching for a pretext to intervene in Syria militarily, similar to that in 2003 when America invaded Iraq over the chemical weapons pretext?

One of the sub-reasons behind the uncertainty was also the appointment of Swedish expert Ake Sellstrom, who served as the former UN weapons inspector in Iraq, as the head of the inspection team in Syria.

While Washington said the Syrian administration’s use of chemical weapons would be “a red line” to trigger military intervention, Damascus repeatedly stressed “even if we have such weapons we will not use them,” but warned that the rebels might obtain chemical bombs and use it against civilians to frame the Syrian army and draw in foreign military actions.

Yet, Syrian analysts, while stressing that the United States has intentions to repeat the Iraqi scenario, brushed off any possibility of a similar scenario due to the “special situation” of Syria.

They said the international allies of President Bashar al-Assad and the current situation inside the country is highly unlikely to draw in foreign military intervention, at least in the current phase.

“There are attempts by the Western countries, mainly the United States, to repeat the Iraqi scenario in Syria,” Hmaidi al-Abdullah, a political expert said.

He, however, stressed that plans for repeating the Iraqi scenario will not succeed “due to the different political climate and the current balances of powers in the world.”

Abdullah explained that “at the times of the U.S.-led invasion on Iraq, the international community was subdued to the Western hegemony, primarily the American one,” adding that the situation is different these days.

He said Moscow’s recent stance has emerged as a strong pole that ended the unipolarity of the West, adding that another reason behind the difference between the cases of Iraq and Syria is the agreement between the superpowers in the UN Security Council to make the mission of the inspection team evenhanded.

For his part, Maher Morhej, the head of the Syrian Youth Party, also agreed with Abdullah that the intention of repeating the Iraqi scenario does exist but strained by the development on the international and regional arena.

According to Morhej, “The only task of this mission is to determine whether the chemical weapons were used in Syria but not to name the party responsible for the usage and that’s one of the points that were agreed upon.”

“I don’t expect the situation to reach the point of the Iraqi one,” he said, adding that the Western powers used the chemical weapons issue to draw attention to the stocks of chemical weapons in Syria and their fears of the fall of such stocks in the hands of the rebels in case of a regime collapse.

August 25th, 2013, 6:52 pm

 

ghufran said:

Suddenly, after the good AB Atwan left it, al-Quds alarabi became “very reliable”, just a couple of months ago the newspaper was targeted by most thawrajiyyeh for being a supporter of the regime:
“From the very reliable alquds Alarabi”, a nice try, Syrian !!
I do not believe there is a Syrian, regardless of how bad, who will celebrate the death of children by CW, if you allege that there is one I would like to see a proof that he exists.
Those who gassed children deserve to be treated as war criminals, period.

August 25th, 2013, 6:58 pm

 

zoo said:

COLIN POWELL: Syria Is An ‘Internal Struggle’ That Is Beyond US Capabilities

http://www.chron.com/technology/businessinsider/article/COLIN-POWELL-Syria-Is-An-Internal-Struggle-4760143.php

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell spoke cautiously Sunday about any possible Syrian intervention, warning that the two-year-old civil war was likely beyond U.S. capabilities to affect any meaningful change.

August 25th, 2013, 7:02 pm

 
 

Tara said:

Ghufran,

See Syrian @1556. There is the link you asked for.

Distributing sweets and dancing on the street in celebration of the use of chemical weapons against the children. These people deserve nothing other than one spits on them.

August 25th, 2013, 7:19 pm

 

don said:

Britain can’t act on Syria till it faces up to the specter of Iraq

Until the truth about past mistakes comes out, the UK can’t give a clear message about human rights and intervention

Iraq is part of the reason, but only part. It was salutary to hear the solemn tones of former UN weapons inspector Hans Blix talking last week about inspections, delays and cover-ups. The refusal of the Americans and British to allow Blix to finish his work in 2002-3 continues to undermine any accusations based on assertion alone, no matter how credible those assertions might be today. And now that Assad appears to have agreed to UN inspections of the gas attack site, it will be a race against time to sift through the evidence.

However, the British establishment continues to give the impression of wanting to hide the mistakes and falsehoods on Iraq. Where, one might reasonably ask, is that elusive Chilcot report? The refusal to publish it, until all those involved are a distant memory, reinforces the view that the spooks and the politicians do not want the full truth to come out.

Irrespective of the domestic pressures, the balance of forces has shifted in the intervening 10 years. The United States has a president, a body politic and public opinion scarred by Iraq and Afghanistan and largely averse to the use of military force. The Franco-British air strikes on Libya straddled the old ways and the new realities. Prompted by the potential for a massacre in Benghazi, David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy were alive to the consequences of doing nothing. But the mission succeeded (in its initial aims) only because of American logistical support and Russian acquiescence at the UN.

Later, the Russians cried foul, arguing that the UN mandate did not allow the west to topple Gaddafi. Their intransigence towards Syria partly reflects their strategic alliance with Assad, but also their fury (rightly or wrongly) over Libya.

They have been doling out the revenge ever since, and Syria is the perfect forum for them. With the support of China, Russia ensured last week that even a resolution mandating a full inspection of the chemical attack in Damascus was watered down to the point of absurdity.

It may have been relatively easy in the 1990s for the British and Americans to act without UN endorsement, with China only beginning to emerge as a potential superpower and Russia led by an alcohol-infused Boris Yeltsin. Now the risk of ignoring them is far greater, although it may be a risk the US and UK are prepared to take.

Cameron, to his credit, has formalised the process of war. Gone are Blair’s sofas, and diplomats and military required to tailor their operations to the exigencies of spin. But the dilemmas remain unresolved. Without formal UN support, what is the legal basis for action? What are the goals and are they achievable? To scare Assad? He won’t be. To punish or remove him? The Russians will amorally ensure he clings to power.

The more honest admission would be that military action in Syria is a response to an instinct that something must be done, that the tyrant can’t get away with it. That might be an understandable moral reflex, but it does not make for long-term policy.

The fear is that, after a brief flirtation, the world is turning away from a rights-based approach. I hope I am wrong, but Assad may be smiling, knowing that, even if we hit back at him in a token gesture over the next few weeks or months, he could be around for quite some time.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/25/syria-sorry-legacy-iraq-war-assad

August 25th, 2013, 7:22 pm

 

zoo said:

After the born dead “transitional government” a new artificial insemination is going on: The “Syria National army” funded by Saudi Arabia at the cost of 100$ millions

Syria’s opposition considers national rebel army, Islamists angered


“With this army the Coalition will have a military force on the ground, one that is composed of the best Syrian fighters,” said a Syrian rebel commander in a powerful brigade that has fighters across Syria.

Coalition leader Ahmed Jarba “wants to strike with an iron fist,” he said, adding that the Saudi-backed Jarba wanted all weapons entering Syria to be overseen by his coalition.

However, the Al-Qaeda-linked rebels control many border crossings in the north, giving them strong influence over what enters the country and who gets hold of it.

“During this revolution we have seen many great ideas and many great attempts destroyed because of mismanagement. The Free Syrian Army is an example of this. As long as the roots of the problems are not solved, then nothing will change.”

“They are all failed projects; there is no awareness among those leading this revolution and also there is no clear strategy. In addition to this you have got the hesitation from the West. As long as this continues, this will be a failed project.”

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Aug-26/228642-syrias-opposition-considers-national-rebel-army-islamists-angered.ashx#ixzz2d1fQCR00
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

August 25th, 2013, 7:27 pm

 

Tara said:

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August 25th, 2013, 7:39 pm

 

zoo said:

After it ‘succeeded’ in having the Syrian government allow the UN inspectors, the US is now waiting for results.
What else can it do without harming the UN delegation and destroying any hope for the Geneva conference that it has committed to?

US has few options to strike back at Syria

National Editorial
Aug 26, 2013

If – and it remains if – the Assad regime used chemical weapons against civilians last week, and UN inspectors will soon be allowed to judge the strength of that claim, there are few plausible reasons for it doing so. Among the best possible rationales would be highlighting to the rebels and their supporters the sheer impotence of the international community. After all, if Mr Al Assad could demonstrate that even such a flagrant violation was met with a minimal response, it would be a huge psychological blow to all those who believed, and perhaps continue to believe, that the world would not watch and wait while they were systematically bombed, raped and slaughtered.

….
The truth is that the United States, in particular, wants to be seen to do something, but doesn’t really want to do much. In a letter to the US Congress last week, Gen Martin Dempsey, the US military’s highest-ranking officer, warned even a serious attack by the United States, such as destroying the regime’s air-force, “would not be militarily decisive, but would commit us decisively to the conflict”. It is precisely that result which Mr Obama wants to avoid. The US has no clear political goal in Syria and won’t enter the conflict without one.

And yet a response is needed, given how seriously the use of chemical weapons against civilians has been taken worldwide since the Second World War. The US realistically has three options. It could continue sending arms to the rebels. It could conduct limited missile strikes on Syrian military targets. Or it could conduct a more wide-ranging bombing campaign, either to degrade Mr Al Assad’s army or to establish safe havens.

The last option, given Mr Obama’s history, would have to be done in conjunction with regional allies, or perhaps Nato. It would be the most effective, but also the most risky. For that reason, Mr Obama may take the lesser path of limited missile strikes, sending a message but not involving the US too much. Whether that will be enough to aid the rebels or deter Mr Al Assad from further use of chemical weapons remains to be seen.

Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/editorial/us-has-few-options-to-strike-back-at-syria#ixzz2d1mT8E5H
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August 25th, 2013, 7:48 pm

 

revenire said:

The US is weak. Obama is a failure as president and as a man. He is afraid of going to full scale war with Syria.

August 25th, 2013, 7:55 pm

 

Tara said:

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August 25th, 2013, 7:57 pm

 

Syrian said:

??? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ????????? ????? ????? ????????? ?? ???? ????????? ???????? .

??? ?? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ???????? ?????????

http://all4syria.info/Archive/93983?wpmp_switcher=desktop

August 25th, 2013, 7:58 pm

 
 

Tara said:

Dear Syrian @1566

One of the comment from your link in regard to Asma’s friend

“??? ?? ???? ??????? ????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ??? ?? ??? ????”

This?????  is an example of why I left Damascus many years ago and knew I would never return.
—-

Ghufran, good enough for you? Oe you want more?  

August 25th, 2013, 8:13 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALI, ZOO, APPLE_MINI, DON and co

You are behaving like desperate superstitious people. You seem to hope that anxiously posting thousands of words saying that no action should be taken against Assad will stop the inevitable happening.

It’s been amazing to watch Bashar Assad behave more stupidly, dishonestly and self-incriminatingly than even his strongest enemies could have anticipated.

The world is watching in disgusted disbelief and scoffing at his ridiculous actions.

They see an unintelligent, inept, criminal liar in a situation where he’s way out of his depth. A worried weird-looking creep with a pin head and a failed moustache.

Little Apple, he must be breaking your heart.

August 25th, 2013, 8:20 pm

 

zoo said:

It is all about Geneva

The rebels have weakened tremendously in the last weeks as despite its promises the West has failed to strengthen them with heavy weapons that Idriss has put as a condition to attend the Geneva conference.

Now the chemical attack gave the West the perfect opportunity to compensate their failure and regain the opposition confidence by starting a campaign of threats of a military action on Syria.

They expect that war drum beatings will convince the disappointed opposition that the West can be tough on Syria and is on their side. They hope that it will give the opposition enough incentive to accept the participation to Geneva. As for the effects of these threats on the Syrian government and its supporters, I think they are almost null. The Syria government is clearly believing it has the upper hand and just wait for the weak opposition to offer to participate to the Geneva conference.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-08/26/c_125242585.htm

For his part, Bassam Abdullah, head of a political research center, told Xinhua that one of the important reasons behind his low expectations of a U.S. military intervention is “the lack of public support to such a move in the United States.”

“Only nine percent of the public opinion in the United States supports the military intervention in Syria,” he said, adding that without a public support, Obama is going to think twice before taking such a decision.

Meanwhile, Abdullah said the warmongering statements are aiming to “practice the highest levels of pressure before the ( Geneva) negotiations,” stressing that “all of the signs say that Washington is only trying to improve the situation of its ‘tools’ the on ground before the negotiations.”

August 25th, 2013, 8:30 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria Lover

The excess of adjectives and qualifiers in your post sounds like you are having a hysterical fit. I wonder what news triggered it. Calm down,

August 25th, 2013, 8:34 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria: US and UK pledge military action within two weeks

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/syria-us-and-uk-pledge-military-action-within-two-weeks-29527123.html

BY OLIVER WRIGHT – 26 August 2013
Western countries, including Britain, are planning to take unilateral military action against the Assad regime within two weeks in retaliation for its alleged use of chemical weapons on civilians in Syria.

August 25th, 2013, 8:37 pm

 

zoo said:

Panic in Israel

Israelis stock up on gas masks amid fears of Syrian strikes
Military steps up preparations for a possible attack from the north

Mon, Aug 26, 2013, 01:01
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/israelis-stock-up-on-gas-masks-amid-fears-of-syrian-strikes-1.1505309

Demand for gas masks soared in Israel yesterday amid fears that Syria or its regional allies, such as Hizbullah in Lebanon, may target Israel in response to an expected US strike against the regime of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad.

Post offices where gas masks are distributed reported a fourfold increase in people collecting kits, with many talking of a real fear of an imminent Syrian attack.

Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu tried to allay public concern, saying that Israel “will always know how to protect our citizens” should Syrian weapons be turned on the Jewish state.

“Our hand is always on the pulse,” he said. “Our finger is a responsible one and, if needed, is on the trigger. We will always know how to protect our citizens and our country against those who come to injure us or try to attack us.”

August 25th, 2013, 8:41 pm

 

zoo said:

Syrian Military Claims Advances in Damascus Suburbs

Government Forces Report Retaking Section of Strategic Opposition Stronghold

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323906804579035123431559150.html

August 25th, 2013, 8:45 pm

 

Ali said:

Syria Lover

Take it easy indeed otherwise you’ll join Dr. Death in heart attack.

There is nothing in Syria demands international actions, the government is chasing and cleansing thugs, looters and terrorists which is the job of the state.

If any actions required then they should allow more arms to the Syrian army to eradicate these creatures for good, and yes to put a big picture of al-ASSAD in the main hall of UN as he’s saving the huminaty.

We’re feeling no panic, actually we’re quite relaxed. The real panic is within the terrorists and their allies including you and your Israel.

??? ??? ?? ???

August 25th, 2013, 8:51 pm

 

Ali said:

There’s no Syria without al-ASSAD

Welcome to Syria al-ASSAD

August 25th, 2013, 8:55 pm

 

Ali said:

Quote of the day

“Those who follwo al-ASSAD and believe in Assadism will have a direct pass and reward to heaven. God will put them next to him because they are the real believers”

August 25th, 2013, 8:56 pm

 

Ali said:

Shaabeeha lil abad lajl 3yonak ya ASSAD

August 25th, 2013, 8:57 pm

 

Ali said:

Yesterday the master Sayed Hassan Nasruallah was in Damascus and dined with president al-ASSAD along with high commanders of Syrian army.

This time way further than Haifa.

??? ??? ?? ???

August 25th, 2013, 9:01 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ZOO,

Oh I am feeling very relaxed. Bashar Assad’s disaster is my delight.

You are the one in an anxious bleak mood.

Bashar has failed you and Little Apple big time, ignoring your wishes and advices.

Here it is in simple language: You know he’s been playing with fire and you know he’s going to get burnt.

August 25th, 2013, 9:04 pm

 

Ali said:

“You know he’s been playing with fire and you know he’s going to get burnt.”

Gods don’t get burned, Gods burn others.

August 25th, 2013, 9:07 pm

 

don said:

Question to the blog: how many IDs an ex-moderator is permitted to have?

August 25th, 2013, 9:09 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALI #1579

It’s good you are being reckless and indiscreet. Nasrullah being there with Bashar will make an even more satisfying target.

You are firing weak and blank ammunition. I don’t like or support Israel.

August 25th, 2013, 9:11 pm

 

Ali said:

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????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????…

????? ???? ??????? ??????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???????? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ” – ?? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?????????” – ?? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ??????? – ???? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ??????…???? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ??????? ???????? ???????? ??? ??????…. ???????? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ??????? ?? ?? ???? ??????? ????? ??? ???? ???? ?? (?????) ?????? ???? ?????? ….. ??????? ???? … ??? ??? ?? ????? ?? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ????? ???????? ????? ????????? ???? ????? ????? ?? ?? ????? ???????? ????????? ? ?????? ???? ??????? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ?? ??? ????? ?? ??????? …?? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ?? ????????? ??????? ????? ?? ?? ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ????????? ?? ???? 2 ????? ?? ??? ??????? ????????? ?????? ????? ?????? ?????????? ?? ??????? …
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???? ??? ???????? ????????? ???????? ??? (????? ? ?????? ? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?? ???????? ?????????? ) ?? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? (????? ??????) ???? ???? ?? ??? ?????? .
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August 25th, 2013, 9:12 pm

 

revenire said:

I honestly can’t wait to see 100s of 1000s of rockets hitting Israel. Palestinians will be dancing in the streets. Assad is like a god.

August 25th, 2013, 9:21 pm

 

revenire said:

I’d hate to be the “opposition” when the war starts.

The army won’t be restrained any longer. It will be ALL SYSTEMS GO!!

August 25th, 2013, 9:23 pm

 

Ali said:

ASSAD is a God

Glory ASSAD glory God

August 25th, 2013, 9:24 pm

 

revenire said:

I wonder if the US is brave enough to bring their ships closer so the Syrian Yakhonts can give them a nice kiss? Probably too cowardly. Remember Iraq? They had to use chemicals – white phosphorus – in Fallujah.

August 25th, 2013, 9:26 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Here we go. Cowards and liars. Looking for scapegoats to take the blame.

Article: “Chemical attack spurs finger-pointing inside Assad regime”

EXCERPT:

“…there were indications from Damascus that some of the army officers involved had tried to distance themselves from what happened, and insisted they were not told the rockets they were firing were loaded with toxins.

“We have heard from people close to the regime that the chemical missiles were handed out a few hours before the attacks,” said a source from a well-connected family, who has contacts with both the opposition and regime loyalists.

“They didn’t come from the ministry of defence but from air force intelligence, under orders from Hafez Maklouf . The army officers are saying they did not know there were chemical weapons. Even some of the people transporting them are saying they had no idea what was in the rockets – they thought they were conventional explosives.”

Hafez Maklouf, Mr Al Assad’s cousin, commands Syria’s air force intelligence, the most feared of all its secret police branches.

FROM THE SAME STORY, CREDIBLE INCRIMINATING DETAILS:

“[Another account] based on a timeline from residents inside the affected areas and information collected from sources inside the regime who leak information to the rebels.

“.. rockets loaded with chemicals were delivered to Gen Tahir Hamid Khalil and launched from an army base housing the 155 Brigade, a unit of the 4th Division, in the Qalamoon mountains north of Damascus.

“Mahar Al Assad, the Syrian president’s brother, commands the 4th Division, an ultra-loyalist force with a key role in repressing the uprising since it began in March 2011, and, more recently, heavily involved in combat with rebels around Damascus.

“After a night of fierce fighting on Tuesday in an area on the edge of Damascus known as Eastern Ghouta – once known for its clean natural water and lush orchards – regime troops moved back, leaving only aircraft overhead…

“At 2.30am on Wednesday, regime forces under the command of Gen Ghassan Abbas began launching the rockets, 16 of which were aimed at the eastern suburbs of Damascus, and hit Zamalka and Ain Tarma, densely populated areas in the Eastern Ghouta.

“As opposition emergency services responded to those initial chemical attacks, rockets armed with high explosive warheads were fired into the same area, hitting ambulance teams as they tried to help victims of the chemical strikes.

“At 4.21am, 18 more missiles were fired into eastern Damascus by troops loyal to Mr Al Assad, the SNC said. Another two missiles were aimed at Moadamiya, to the south-west of Damascus, an area known locally as the Western Ghouta.”

http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/chemical-attack-spurs-finger-pointing-inside-assad-regime#ixzz2d2A9FpwD

August 25th, 2013, 9:29 pm

 

revenire said:

The Pantsir-S1 is a very nice missile. I am willing to take bets it takes out a more than a few US plane. Cash only please.

August 25th, 2013, 9:29 pm

 

revenire said:

SL the big cowards are the US and British. I dare them to attack. They’re scared. Obama is the weakest US president I can remember.

Nothing can save their terrorist mercenaries from death at the hand of the SAA.

August 25th, 2013, 9:30 pm

 

revenire said:

Old news and untrue news SL… as usual.

DavidKenner ?@DavidKenner 6h
Important piece from @philsands: Factions within the Syrian military deny they knew shells contained chem weapons. http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/chemical-attack-spurs-finger-pointing-inside-assad-regime

Hala Jaber ?@HalaJaber 2h
@DavidKenner FYI Hafez Makhlouf is not the head of airforce intelligence! @philsands

August 25th, 2013, 9:33 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE is doing his full clown and jokester act, giggling to himself. Telling us the US is weak and scared of attacking Syria.

They won’t be attacking Syria, they will be attacking illegitimate criminal Assad and defending Syrians.

ALI is busy playing the clown too.

August 25th, 2013, 9:41 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE #1591,

How do you know what is true about which part of the regime military fired the missiles?

Come on, tell us.

I think ALI knows but isn’t telling.

Poor old APPLE_MINI seems to have been left out of the loop, though.

August 25th, 2013, 9:46 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Telling point: In 2 years and 7 months not ONE Syrian official has visited the Zaatari Syrian refugee camp, which the regime claims is full of victims of the rebels.

https://twitter.com/THE_47th/status/371664784271618048/photo/1

August 25th, 2013, 9:53 pm

 

zoo said:

#1508 Syria Lover

Read again your post. Signs of anxiety are visible all over it and the ‘relaxed’ tone in your last post is far from convincing.

How can you be relaxed? the opposition are getting such a beating all over Syria from their ‘allies’, the Islamists and from the heroic Syrian army than they resort again to the two years old Kafranbel cartoons: We want NATO to save us”.
Does that relaxes you, I wonder?
Will NATO rescue the embattled rebels? I seriously doubt, the rebels are doomed, Saudi weapons or not, chemical weapons or not.

Relax…

August 25th, 2013, 9:58 pm

 

zoo said:

1595. Syrialover

Has unfriendly Jordan allowed Syrian officials to perform such visit?

Has Jarba or Sabra visited any refugees camps in friendly Turkey?

August 25th, 2013, 10:01 pm

 

Ghufran said:

NATO will either do nothing or fire few missiles at Syrian targets to ” send a message”, anybody who thinks that NATO cares about the death of civilians in Syria is a fool, NATO did nothing despite the fact that over 100,000 Syrians died, the real purpose of the latest media and military threats is to stop the army from advancing in Jobar and 3 other areas which threaten the ” balance” on the battle field , and as you can see, the army promised to accept a cease fire for the safety of inspectors, even if a military strike is executed NATO will insist that the UN team is given enough time to finish the job which will give jihadists time to reorganize and regroup, whether the army will follow this order is a matter for speculations, past experiences tell that logistic and security concerns will derail UN missions and then we are back to a new circle of violence until conditions for Geneva 2 are met by mid October if you believe the UN and Ibrahimi.

August 25th, 2013, 10:04 pm

 

Ali said:

The Syrian kamikaze waiting for you

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August 25th, 2013, 10:10 pm

 

zoo said:

Misreadings of the Middle East situation, stupid advisors (Ford, Clinton), biased advisors ( Israel) and a weak president ( Obama) brings the USA to face a string of diplomatic failures

The Failed Grand Strategy in the Middle East

By WALTER RUSSELL MEAD
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324619504579028923699568400.html

….
The plan was simple but elegant: The U.S. would work with moderate Islamist groups like Turkey’s AK Party and Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood to make the Middle East more democratic.
This would kill three birds with one stone. First, by aligning itself with these parties, the Obama administration would narrow the gap between the ‘moderate middle’ of the Muslim world and the U.S.

Second, by showing Muslims that peaceful, moderate parties could achieve beneficial results, it would isolate the terrorists and radicals, further marginalizing them in the Islamic world.

Finally, these groups with American support could bring democracy to more Middle Eastern countries, leading to improved economic and social conditions, gradually eradicating the ills and grievances that drove some people to fanatical and terroristic groups.
….
But beyond these problems, the failure to intervene early in Syria (when “leading from behind” might well have worked) has handed important victories to both the terrorists and the Russia-Iran axis, and has seriously eroded the Obama administration’s standing with important allies. Russia and Iran backed Bashar al-Assad; the president called for his overthrow—and failed to achieve it. To hardened realists in Middle Eastern capitals, this is conclusive proof that the American president is irredeemably weak

August 25th, 2013, 10:11 pm

 

Syrian said:

Dear Tara@1568
Many from old damascus have sold their soul to the beast.
Like you most Syrian who left the country and those who are now revolting,they did it because they would not sell out.The rest soon will be held accountable for the deal they made with devil.

August 25th, 2013, 10:23 pm

 

revenire said:

1594. SYRIALOVER

One thing I know for sure is you don’t know. That is certain. You post things from NOW Lebanon, from Weiss, etc.

August 25th, 2013, 10:45 pm

 

revenire said:

Jon Stewart the comedian? LOL

August 25th, 2013, 10:46 pm

 

revenire said:

SL if there is an attack it will be an attack on Syria not a mafia. It will be an attack, an illegal attack, on a nation and on a people – the Syrian people.

The ones resisting that attack will be Syrians, and their allies.

Go and fight. I am sure they need men after the beating they’ve been taking all over the nation.

August 25th, 2013, 10:49 pm

 

revenire said:

“NATO did nothing despite the fact that over 100,000 Syrians died”

No Ghufran, you’re wrong. NATO armed the terrorists and helped murder the 100,000.

And, you know better than I do, that out of 100,000 fully half are government supporters and soldiers.

August 25th, 2013, 10:53 pm

 

Syrialover said:

As usual – another tsunami of lightweight and ill-informed comments on the US and Syria.

It’s obviously too hard to digest the fact that the leaders of both the US State Department and Defense Department earlier urged action on Syria, but were opposed by Obama’s advisers for unrelated domestic reasons.

Confusing isn’t it? Only for those who have zero interest or understanding of the reality, but prefer to invent their own story.

August 25th, 2013, 11:01 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE #1602,

I don’t care who did what inside the regime. It all rests on Bashar Assad’s head – he took the job. You’re the one who’s squirming about who inside was responsible for the CW attack.

Wonder which site and conflict you’ll go and troll when it’s all over for the Assads?

August 25th, 2013, 11:09 pm

 

revenire said:

There was no CW attack by the SAA. How could I be squirming about it?

Dempsey has always been against war with Syria. As far as other administration members you have nothing more than the press reports you paste (which are not very good considering the pedigree). I have a little more than that.

August 25th, 2013, 11:13 pm

 

revenire said:

SL grow up. The West isn’t going to install your friends in Syria. The “revolution” is dead and all you are left holding is broken dreams.

August 25th, 2013, 11:28 pm

 

ghufran said:

further evidence that the FSA is out of the loop:
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August 25th, 2013, 11:36 pm

 

Akbar Palace said:

revenire on August 25, 2013 at 9:21 pmI honestly can’t wait to see 100s of 1000s of rockets hitting Israel. Palestinians will be dancing in the streets. Assad is like a god.

Reverse,

Are Palestinians dancing in the streets in Syria? I’m willing to bet your God will be hiding in a Spider Hole just like the other Baathist God next door.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4422170,00.html

August 26th, 2013, 12:05 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Assad used all his weapons and failed to defeat the rebels, the last thing is to use chemical weapons.
If Assad is allowed to use CW without adequate punishment,then he will win,with CW he can defeat the revolution,then as victorious,he will be looked upon as a strong man and he will look like a hero in the Arab world,just like in Iraq, if Saddam was not opposed the Arab would have looked at Saddam as hero,Assad then could easily threaten KSA and all the gulf countries,and this is disastrous to US security.
Just like Saddam was not allowed to become hero, Assad will be prevented from reaching this status.
So US must act, and must eliminate Assad,he is no longer can be trusted.
It is necessary to get rid of Assad , not only weaken him,as, if only weak,he may with what is left of missiles and CW, attack Israel, so making him weak is out of question.
Along with getting rid of Assad HA must be hit too.
Later I will talk about
Why Assad used CW
How is the strike going to be.
What other choices

August 26th, 2013, 12:07 am

 
 

majedkhaldoun said:

I forgot to say
along with attacking Assad amd HA us will attack jabhat Al Nusra too

August 26th, 2013, 12:10 am

 

don said:

Oh-Growup!

1614. majedkhaldoun said:
I forgot to say
along with attacking Assad amd HA us will attack jabhat Al Nusra too

August 26th, 2013, 12:15 am

 

revenire said:

US will attack Nusra too? Ha ha. Sure Majed, sure – with their smart bombs right?

August 26th, 2013, 1:28 am

 

Badr said:

From the story “Zoo” linked to, but of course chose not to cut and paste the following:

“I have no affection for Assad,” Powell told Bob Schieffer on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” while mentioning he knows the Syrian president and has personally dealt with him. “He’s a pathological liar.”

August 26th, 2013, 1:42 am

 

annie said:

We have heard from people close to the regime that the chemical missiles were handed out a few hours before the attacks,” said a source from a well-connected family, who has contacts with both the opposition and regime loyalists.

Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/syrian-chemical-attack-spurs-finger-pointing-inside-assad-regime#ixzz2d3DOkxNo
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August 26th, 2013, 1:42 am

 

apple_mini said:

Well Syrian government just has to prepare for a broader and more brutal war. US and its allies might be well attack Syria with immunity. But the war isn’t going to over.

For those people who had dreamed US and the west were promoting and advocating freedom and justice to Syria, they can start banging their heads against their walls now.

As for those Syrian expats who are calling death and destruction upon Syria. Those are just clowns. You see, if they come to Syria and join the ranks of the death squad, SAA will take them seriously because it requires resources to deal with them.

Hiding in their home in the west and getting high by calling for death isn’t going to fit well with the western atmosphere around them. To Syrians, they are not much different from the death squad, the only difference is they do not pose real threat. So just leave them alone.

August 26th, 2013, 1:45 am

 

annie said:

‘What’s the point of winning this war if there’s no Syria left?’

Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/whats-the-point-of-winning-this-war-if-theres-no-syria-left#ixzz2d3FZdsmf
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August 26th, 2013, 1:48 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

Chemical assad security hyenas have been hiding the patient records of the victims of the khan el-asal chemical warcrime likewise, several hospital employees, especially residents who treated the victims, have bee disappeared in secrecy. When the hyena’s representatives were asked about those disappeared, they claimed that the were being deposed by the UN investigators, which seems to be, like everything dog-poop snorters say, a bold face lie.

So, why would dog-poop chemical athad order its snorter hyenas to hide the file if its claim that the rebels were the ones who attacked with CW in khan el-asal wasn’t a bold face lie an forgery, again like everything this pile of poop always utters?

Then again, we also have zouzou now digging into the National to find a statement that will make assure it that its hyena brothers in nus-lira drug-smuggling, money laundering, terrorist organization will not be attacked and that it beloved snortable dog-poop chemical athad will escape justice once more. zouzou of course does not recognize that the article is far more damning of chemical assad than much of what anyone of us here can write in describing that pile of poop it loves to snort. This is as desperate as propaganda can get and italicizing a phrase here and there will not help at all.

As for the physical absence of Doctors without Borders in Syria, which zouzou claims debunk my assertion that it was forging the numbers. MSF does not have a foreign doctor in Syria, of course due to the regime’s attack on and crimes against all medical (including two doctors who were murdered under torture in chemical assad torture dungeons, just the past few days), yet Doctors without borders is present through continuous efforts to provide medical teams with equipment and medicines smuggled through the border as well as with direct intervention in neighboring countries to support cases that manage to escape zouzou snortable dog-poop chemical athad . Still the number 350 that was mentioned in zouzou’s customary forgery as being the “lowered” number of victims of chemical assad CW war crime, came from three hospitals only where doctors without borders is present through honest Syrian doctors and it does not represent the total number of chemical assad CW crime against humanity.

zouzou is a forger, and it did not address the real point, as usual. Its forgery is nothing more than the losers’ attempts to forge history, right when history is happening, exemplifying chemical assad style pathetic sophistry. Once more, laughable if it wasn’t complicity in covering up for whole sale slaughter of women, children, youth, and the elderly.

August 26th, 2013, 2:00 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

When hardly-a-massacre is scared, hardly-a-massacre loses its control of the dog-poop chemical athad sophistry style. It is beyond repulsive when someone like hardly-a-massacre talks about death squads, conveniently ignoring its repetitive attempts to cover up the death squad acts in banyas and al-baida right when these chemical assad death squads were murdering women and children in front of the worlds eyes.

As for the disgusting child-death pornographer troll and its friend DONAAN, they both seem to be going in circles around their own tails, or is it each others’ tail.

August 26th, 2013, 2:17 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

To failed forgers, it seems that the numbers are up and that chemical assad planned even a larger massacre than it was earlier thought judging by the number of localities hit with its internationally banned chemical weapons.

August 26th, 2013, 2:36 am

 

William Scott Scherk said:

The President of Syria has given an interview to Russia’s Izvestia, in which he answers/deflects questions surrounding the chemical weapons attacks.

Excerpts (in Arabic):

https://www.facebook.com/SyrianPresidency

August 26th, 2013, 2:37 am

 

William Scott Scherk said:

The Izvestia interview.

English translation at EAWorldview.

Excerpt:

Q: Mr. President, the most pressing issue today – what is the situation in Syria? What territories are under the control of the rebels?

Assad: The issue is not territories that are under terrorist control, and territories under army control. It is not that there is some enemy who has occupied our land. We are dealing with terrorists who are infiltrating into villages and the outskirts of cities. These are criminals who kill innocent people, destroy infrastructure….

The army, security forces and the police are striving to kick them out of populated areas and destroy them. Those who manage to survive, move on to other areas and join other gangs. Thus, the essence of our business is destroying terrorists.

The main reason for the continuation of hostilities is the huge numbers of terrorists who are constantly arriving in Syria from overseas. Every month, they arrive to Syria in their tens of thousands. In addition, there is continued funding of terrorists from abroad and supplying them weapons.

But I assure you that there is not a single place where the government army cannot enter — and it is destroying the terrorists wherever it encounters them.

Note from EAWorldview editor: This is a rolling translation, with each answer posted as Joanna Paraszczuk completes it.

August 26th, 2013, 2:48 am

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

1144. ALI said:

You can’t win a battle by writing poem. this is directed to the poet of this forum Mr. Hamster or shall call you with your real name Mr. Subhi Hadid?

How’s Alquds Alrabi going with you? does it feel weird not to have Atwan around?

Didn’t notice Ali’s discovery of my real identity???!!!!. However, Subhi is a real writer not an amateur like me. Second, Subhi is a serious intellectual who does not have time to deal with irrelevant cess-pool dog-poop chemical athad snorters.

As for albali atlan, no one gives a damn for the departure of such a weasel from alquds al arabi or any other journal. This dictator loving beggar was made for oblivion, pretty much like most dog-poop chemical assad snorters.

Juding by ali’s judgement of my own writing as being similar to Subhi Hadidi’s (not Hadid), i can easily recognize that Ali doesn’t know the difference between real fine writing like that of Subhi’s and that of an amateur who makes so many typos, grammatical, and punctuation errors? such as the funny rodent that is me.

But the funniest part of Ali’s discovery is the admonition about not winning a battle by writing a poem. Well, tell that to the hoards of pseudo-poets and singers (i.e. beggars) who wrote countless terribly written poems and assaulted syrians’ musical taste by so many screeches exalting dog-poop Senior ???? ????? winnings in the battles against Israel, and who continue to write and screech about little stinky chemical assad . The assads invented the concept of virtual victory and epitomized the sad case of losers singing about their victories to falsify a national memory and history of decent people.

August 26th, 2013, 3:14 am

 

omen said:

nusra executed alawite cleric:

(non graphic photo)

https://twitter.com/zaidbenjamin/status/371896952759123968

August 26th, 2013, 3:52 am

 

Alan said:

We do not wish evil to our opponents, but we will pay evil for ourselves so we do not recommend the United States, Britain and France being drawn into any military action in the Middle East because it would not serve the interests of the American people and the British and the French!Syrian people does not need Western war bloody Business of twentieth century which Western nations flock to indulge in it!So Keep your distance!!!! Humanity needs PEACE !!! Stop NOW !!!We Syrians are not afraid of you!!

Britain says response to Syria chemical attack possible without unanimous UN backing
http://rt.com/news/uk-response-without-un-backing-979/

August 26th, 2013, 5:23 am

 

Alan said:

chemical western- Saudi- Israeli actors! your performances are not implemented in the developed world! The Plot is very retarded

chemical western- Saudi- Israeli- Turkish governments! have you something to hide from your own people ?

“Moscow continues to monitor closely the event surrounding the“alleged” chemical attack near Damascus, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Aleksandr Lukashevich, said in a statement.

“We’re getting more new evidence that this criminal act was of a provocative nature,” he stressed. “In particular, there are reports circulating on the Internet, in particular that the materials of the incident and accusations against government troops had been posted for several hours before the so-called attack. Thus, it was a pre-planned action.”

The Damascus chemical attack accusations indicate the launch of “another anti-Syrian propaganda wave” and, in this context, the calls on the UN Security Council to immediately use force in Syria “heard from some EU capitals” are “unacceptable”, Lukashevich said.”

August 26th, 2013, 5:51 am

 

zoo said:

Bashar al Assd: Syria will never be a puppet of the West

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13920604000865

Assad said the United States initiated making accusations against Syria and only later started to look for proof.

He said the frontline in the area where the incident took place was not clear and the Syrian army would have risked killing its own army forces if it used chemical weapons.

“This contradicts elementary logic,” Assad said.

“Such accusations are completely political and the reason for them is a number of victories by the government forces against the terrorists,” he added.

Assad warned western states to stop interfering in the affairs of other countries and instead “listen to the opinion of the people”.

“If someone is dreaming of making Syria a puppet of the West, then this will not happen”.

“We are an independent state, we will fight against terrorism and we will build relations with whom we want for the good of the Syrian people”.

He warned the United States against attacking Syria saying that Washington’s previous military campaigns in recent years had always fallen short of their aims.

“The United States faces failure just like in all the previous wars they waged, starting with Vietnam and up to our days,” he said.

“America has taken part in many wars but could not once achieve its political goals for which the wars were started. Yes, it is true, the great powers can wage wars but can they win them?” he asked.

August 26th, 2013, 6:07 am

 

Alan said:

Mordechai!
Why are you nervous?
Do not worry!
Sorry it took so long time! Syrian government has responded!
will soon to be identify chemical materials used in Damascus!
You will be able to find a suitable mask-proof, when it will be necessary!

August 26th, 2013, 6:09 am

 

zoo said:

1617. Badr said:

Powell: “Bashar al Assad is pathological liar”

Powell who ‘pathologically’ gobbled all the Bush administration’s lies that killed millions of Iraqis is certainly not entitled to pass any judgment on liars.

August 26th, 2013, 6:17 am

 

zoo said:

#1614 Magic the Psychic

A prediction or a suggestion? what about the PKK Kurds?

majedkhaldoun said:

I forgot to say
along with attacking Assad amd HA us will attack jabhat Al Nusra too

August 26th, 2013, 6:21 am

 

zoo said:

Davutoglu is confused as he believes wrongly that the UN inspectors in Syria will determine who is responsible for the attack.

Turkey would join anti-Syria coalition without UN consensus

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/79924/World/Region/Turkey-would-join-antiSyria-coalition-without-UN-c.aspx

Turkey says it will take part in an international coalition against the Al-Assad regime even if the UN Security Council fails to reach consensus on the issue

“After the inspection, the United Nations needs to make a decision on sanctions. If there’s no such decision, other options will be on the agenda,” the foreign minister said.

“36-37 countries have already been discussing these options,” he added.

August 26th, 2013, 6:30 am

 

zoo said:

Qatar and Turkey are been boycotted by the Egyptians for their insisting support of the Moslem Brotherhood mafia

Egyptian tourism syndicate calls for delisting Qatar, Turkey as destinations
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/3/12/79901/Business/Economy/Egyptian-tourism-syndicate-calls-for-delisting-Qat.aspx

As political ties with Qatar and Turkey deteriorate over the ouster of Mohamed Morsi, some Egyptian tourism sector insiders call for tourism ties to be severed as well


Bassem Halaqa, head of the syndicate, has been calling Egypt’s tour operators to boycott Turkish and Qatari airlines and to use instead the airlines of Arab Gulf States that support the present interim government, such as Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait.

Halaqa added in a statement Sunday that the syndicate would not accept both Turkey or Qatar’s intervention in Egypt’s internal affairs, appealing to Egyptians to follow the Arab Gulf lead and restructure ties with states that still back Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

August 26th, 2013, 6:39 am

 

Tara said:

The coalition of the willing is forming and is bypassing UNSC.   

12:24 ? ??????? ? 26 ????? 2013 ????? ???? ???????? ????????? ????? ??? ??????? ??? “?? ??????” ???? ??? ??????? ????? ???????? ?? ????? “???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ????? ??????” ???? ??? ????? “??????” ??? ??? ?????? ???? ?????? ????????. ????? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ?? “?? ?????? ???????? ??????? ????? ??? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????? ????????? ????? ??? ??? ???? ??????????? ?????”. ???? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ??????? ??? ??? “?? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ???????”.

August 26th, 2013, 6:41 am

 

zoo said:

US Syria intervention could help al Qaeda

http://www.dw.de/us-syria-intervention-could-help-al-qaeda/a-17043106?maca=en-rss-en-world-4025-rdf

Syria expert Günter Meyer warns of a US military intervention in Syria and says it would only strengthen al Qaeda’s position in the war-torn country.

DW: What’s the likelihood for a US military intervention in Syria at the moment?

Günter Meyer: A US military intervention is highly unlikely. That is apparent in President Barack Obama’s very careful statements. On the other hand, US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey has urgently warned about a military intervention. Even though it’s possible to intervene right now, there is no exit strategy. The risk is very high that – once the regime has been toppled – power will fall to Islamists, namely al Qaeda fighters. After the Syrian army, they are by far the greatest military power in the country.
….

August 26th, 2013, 6:44 am

 

Tara said:

The regime gassed multiple towns in the Ghouta except Harasta. Were they afraid of gassing al Mahdi?

Where is the Mahdi now? We haven’t heard a thing about him after he was spotted in Harasta. I really really want to know. Did he move in with Batta and Asma? Or did he meet a beautiful Damascene girl, built a house in Ghouta and settled in. Can some one contact the singer and ask him what happened,

August 26th, 2013, 6:49 am

 

zoo said:

‘Under the terms of its mandate negotiated in the security council, the UN inspection team under Swedish scientist, Ake Sellstrom, can determine whether chemical agents have been used, not who has used them.’

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/26/syria-un-no-impunity-chemical-attack

August 26th, 2013, 6:49 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Assad used the security forces early in the conflict, soon it was apparant that he needs the mafia army, and then he used the airforce and missiles, then he used the CW on very limited scale, that turn to be his best bet, he used CW in KHaldiyeh, as for the army ,defection caused him to lose half the army, several of his officers has been killed , he is running out of new recruits several of Alawi young men traveled outside to escape going to the army.
Assad found out that in using CW then bombard the area for few days, then advance ,this will give him victory, so he tried to use CW hoping to test the objection of the west, he wants to push them to the edge, if they don’t do anything ,then he can use CW in Aleppo and defeat the rebels.
Assad does not care how many of the opposition die,as long as he can stay in power.
Assad miscalculated,the west will prevent him from wining.

August 26th, 2013, 6:53 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Cruise missile will not be enough, the strike has to be very strong and widespread, Cruise missile can be used initially, but US needs aircrafts, they have pilotless aircraft 14000 of them,but after the the cruise missiles US will need to use aircrafts with pilots, so the strike will take several weeks, partial attack will only send message,Assad regime is stubborn , weakened Assad is dangerous,as he may retaliate
The attack has to be strong enough to convince his generals that to save their lives they better overthrow Assad, this did not work in Iraq, and the chances for it to work in Syria is close to zero.
The attack however will come from Jordan and Turkey and certainly from the sea.it should involve areas around Damascus but must include the coastal area, it should be convincing to Assad that he has to back up and agree to a transitional goverment.
There is no place for two wars, the results must be accomplished from the first war, two wars against Iraq were very costly to the US

August 26th, 2013, 7:09 am

 

zoo said:

The Kosovo model… with a pinch of Al Qaeda and Israel?

Looking back at Kosovo can move the Syria conflict forward

by Lloyd Axworthy and Allan Rock

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/why-looking-back-at-kosovo-can-move-the-syria-conflict-forward/article13946893/


Whether initiated by NATO or a coalition of participating countries, the international military action in Syria should disable Assad’s capacity to launch chemical attacks and secure sites where chemical weapons are stored. Syrian jets should be kept out of the air, and Assad’s artillery silenced, ending their attacks on civilians. During the Kosovo mission, a committee of foreign ministers convened daily to vet targets proposed by NATO’s generals. That process served to ensure that military measures did not exceed NATO’s mandate. A similar approach could be helpful in Syria.

Kosovo’s aftermath is worth remembering. Soon after the military action ended, the Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic was before an international tribunal answering for his crimes. And in Kosovo itself, international assistance helped repair the country, establish governance and create a protective buffer between Serbs and Kosovars.

In short, the “Kosovo model”, while not perfect, brought the mass killing of civilians to an end, and Kosovo today has an independent government.

President Obama is right in looking to Kosovo as a model in Syria. It’s now up to friends, allies, and all those who seek a world of justice to urge him on, and to offer their support.

August 26th, 2013, 7:09 am

 

Tara said:

Aljazeera reporting snipers shooting at the UN investigation team at Ghouta.

The regime agreed to the investigation only to unleash its shabeeha to intimidate the investigation team hoping they will not be able to investigate. The regime has done this too many times in the past. Nevertheless, I think this investigation is only a matter of formality. The western powers investigated on its own using its own spies and reached a conclusion already.

August 26th, 2013, 7:13 am

 

zoo said:

White House denies rumours of Syria attack plans

(AGI) London, Aug 26 – White House sources have denied British press reports that the U.S. and Britain may launch a missile strike against Syria

http://www.agi.it/english-version/world/elenco-notizie/201308261300-epp-rt10086-white_house_denies_rumours_of_syria_attack_plans

August 26th, 2013, 7:14 am

 

Alan said:

How to take Syria on “hop – stop” or Big game on nerves….
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fanna-news.info%2Fnode%2F12247&sandbox=1
Prior to the beginning of the Second Great Depression in the USA about one year, and hawks already started to rattle the saber and beating the drum the 3rd world war. Early. I think it is just a scare and test the fortitude of leadership in Syria.. As soon as experts of the UN in the chemical weapon now left to areas of its intended application as the West began to play up and started “being laid” frankly on an embarrassment case in the mass media: and all proofs of its application of de a pier already disappeared, and is exclusive … because the Syrian Arab army is firing of artillery on Al-Kaida’s terrorists…….

August 26th, 2013, 7:23 am

 
 
 

Juergen said:

Tara

The regime looks for excuse not to show them the site. Too dangerous they will say now. Seems like they ran out of actors and stage prep guys. I see many now on egyptian and lebanese soap operas. Time for Bashar to look for his bunkerhole. Hopefully Asma will have enough time time to save her Louboutins and Manolos.

August 26th, 2013, 7:42 am

 

Alan said:

Arguments about that the point that, the West won’t be solved to be f**ked in Syria!

Arguments against military intervention

The probability of direct military intervention of Americans in the Syrian war isn’t too great. Despite hopes of many interested forces that “here Uncle Sam now will come and will give us a gift”, ? any real motives to be involved in military operations at the USA doesn’t exist. All “the Syrian porridge” was made by Americans at all in order that to disentangle it. It ? a gift for others, instead of an additional headache for itself. Americans quite will accept also option of big Middle Eastern war, and option of participation in war of the partners (with unpredictable result), and option of the slow bloodshed which is gradually destabilizing all region.

Won’t arrange the USA only fire extinguishing by own forces. And in general ? suppression of this fire. Not for this purpose so diligent shook the Arab boat that it quickly equilibrated.

However, if Americans suddenly openly admit that anything aren’t going to undertake actually, all right there and will end. Bandits will cease to hope for the help, “partners” will start reflecting on the real settlement, instead of about such which is favorable to Americans. Therefore the USA need to continue to represent readiness to interfere when it will be impossible to do without it (that is when pigs fly). And periodically to support confidence that the flaring region won’t be left to the mercy of fate. For this purpose it is possible ?????????? muscles, to hint at fast active intervention, to encourage clients diplomatic courses and information support.

Concerning probability of participation of the USA in large-scale military operation against Syria Obama gave an irrefragable answer on August 23:

“From me as from the president, expect that I will act according to our long-term national interests. Sometimes, that people call for immediate actions, go on drastic measures, and it comes to an end badly, we get to a difficult situation. As a result we are involved in very expensive, expensive interventions. … In Syria very difficult situation, however expectations that the USA can resolve somehow difficult contradictions in Syria, based on religious opposition, sometimes are overestimated”.

Differently, “you manage somehow by own efforts”. Who, except Americans, can support terrorists the military power?

Monarchs of the Persian Gulf are hardly ready “to risk health” independently. Dreams of the new caliphate — it is good. But it is necessary to estimate the forces at realities soberly. And while they amuse themselves illusions: the Syrian army, Kurds, Shiites and Iran ? is the opponent whom the Arabian armies won’t be able to overcome even at all their advanced equipment.
Israel? This state often consider as the opponent of Syria (formally Syria and Israel are at war as the peace treaty still isn’t signed). It can be considered as a military dominant of the Middle East.

The Israel Defense Forces (Army of defense of Israel) surpass…..

https://twitter.com/JuveVovan/status/371957560913326080

August 26th, 2013, 7:46 am

 

Juergen said:

Chancellor Merkel has called this chemical attack on innocent victims an “civilizational crime”. “If the crime is proven then the world community has to act, and Germany will be among those who will act.”

August 26th, 2013, 7:47 am

 

Juergen said:

Alan,

You should study what the NATO did in order to liberate Kosovo. Milosovic was backed by the Russians, as Assad is backed now. You know he went down the drain,not much prophecies needed to know the fate of the Assads. Hopefully Syria will have an similar fate like Serbia in an post Assad era.

August 26th, 2013, 7:53 am

 

omen said:

snipers! how many here entertained the scenario where the regime would be tempted to kill inspectors in order to blame rebels?

Snipers in Syria shoot at UN chemical inspectors:
UN AFP

Monday, August 26, 2013 11:11 AM GMT

Unidentified snipers shot at UN experts Monday forcing them to suspend their attempt to investigate claims that chemical weapons had been used near Damascus, a UN spokesman said.

“The first vehicle of the chemical weapons investigation team was deliberately shot at multiple times by unidentified snipers,” said UN spokesman Martin Nesirky. No injuries were reported.

August 26th, 2013, 8:00 am

 

omen said:

good to see you back, bill.

1542. William Scott Scherk said:
A ceasefire, even in so small an area, is a good thing. For the duration of the UN visits, those areas will be off-limits to the SAA. No bombing, no rockets, no mortars …

Good news.

hate to be the spoilsport but when has the regime ever honored a ceasefire??

August 26th, 2013, 8:06 am

 

omen said:

Le Figaro saying the foreign invasion of Syria, supervised by Jordanian, Israeli and American commandos, has already begun:

“Loyal to Bashar al-Assad, Syrian troops fought with mercenaries trained by the Americans and Jordanians – with such a statement are the Western media, including the French” Le Figaro “and Israeli analytical resource DEBKA.

saw this piece broken down on twitter. seems figaro relied on debka for source. debka!

figaro is conservative establishment paper. rightwing assadi loyalists coming to provide cover once again?

August 26th, 2013, 8:16 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Unidentified snipers, = Shabbiha

August 26th, 2013, 8:37 am

 

omen said:

Unidentified snipers, = Shabbiha

nice decoding!

here is video:

FSA at Moadamia entrance waiting for UN team describe how government Lijan militias take aim at UN vehicles.

https://twitter.com/Paradoxy13/status/371951855318085633

August 26th, 2013, 8:45 am

 

omen said:

Live Feed of UN Inspectors in Ghouta, Damascus, inspecting chemical attack on August 21, 2013

https://twitter.com/THE_47th/status/371968932552269824

August 26th, 2013, 8:49 am

 

apple_mini said:

This is getting interesting. UN inspectors’ vehicles got shot at.

It really sounds like a movie. US has boasted its superior intelligence gathering and analysis. They really missed a big one this time or didn’t they?

Was the opposition who made a pledge and promise to guarantee the safety of UN inspectors?

The problem is exactly what has been haunting the opposition and its death squad: They are over 100 bands of bandits and death squat. No one knows what their brethren did. No one is the King Arthur.

One thing for sure: The sniper or snipers who fired at UN vehicles has something to do with the CW attack.

August 26th, 2013, 8:59 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Russia said, if the west attack Syria Russia will not be involved

August 26th, 2013, 9:09 am

 

Juergen said:

Apple

Whenever the US showed advanced interest in the efficiant work of UN inspectors, not to mention their wellbeing? In this case, the US has no obligation for the safety, its the Assad regimes responsibility to allow the UN to work freely and without danger, they have agreed to just this.

August 26th, 2013, 9:26 am

 

apple_mini said:

Today Nusra branch of the death squad murdered Sheikh Badr Ghazal. His corp shows multiple stab wounds. Some might be the direct cause of his death.

Sheikh Badr Ghazal was near 80. He never committed any violence in his life.

I remember the picture of him when he was sitting on a small truck bed after the death squad abducted him. He looked like a boy. There was no fear or anger or hatred on his face. I saw a wise man the same way I felt about Sheikh Bouti.

Killing of those wise and gentle elder men makes us feel barbarians are slaughtering civilization.

August 26th, 2013, 9:29 am

 

Alan said:

1652. JUERGEN
Do you lack good drafting of speech?
/You should study/- i would recommend you to study!
Written and clear from the title! NATO also like you does not practice taking into account the will and sovereignty of nations!!!

August 26th, 2013, 9:38 am

 

majedkhaldoun said:

I strongly condemn the killing of Badr Ghazal, it is senseless

August 26th, 2013, 9:49 am

 

zoo said:

Activists: After been attacked by snipers, the inspectors reached the areas and have started conducting the inspection protected by the “Islam Brigade”

http://www.france24.com/en/20130826-un-chemical-weapons-experts-shot-syria

Activists said later that the team had arrived in Moadamiyeh, a western suburb of the capital and one of the areas where the alleged attack occurred. They said the team was meeting with doctors and victims at a makeshift hospital.

The Syrian government said the U.N. team was subjected to fire by “terrorist gangs” while entering the Damascus suburb of Moadamiyeh west of Damascus, one of the areas that the opposition says were targeted by toxic gas in last week’s attack.

The government also says Syrian forces provided safety for the team until they reached a position controlled by the rebels, where it claimed the sniper attack occurred.

“The Syrian government holds the terrorist gangs responsible for the safety of the United Nations team,” said the government statement broadcast on Syrian TV.
President Bashar Assad denied in remarks published Monday that his troops used chemical weapons during the fighting in the rebel-held suburbs.

Wassim al-Ahmad, a member of the Moadamiyeh local council, said five U.N. investigators eventually arrived at a makeshift hospital in the suburb, where doctors and about 100 people still with symptoms from the alleged chemical attack were brought in to meet with the U.N. team.

Mohammed Abdullah, an activist in the eastern suburb of Saqba, said the U.N. is expected to visit the rebel-held area on Monday and will be under the protection of the Islam Brigade, which has thousands of fighters in the area.

August 26th, 2013, 10:09 am

 

zoo said:

#1660 Juergen

“the US has no obligation for the safety,”
The Syrian government has no obligations to protect the UN inspectors once they enter the rebels held areas. It is the FSA and the SNC who have offered to guarantee their security.
That’s the agreement.

August 26th, 2013, 10:12 am

 

zoo said:

Experts contradicts the zealous “US official” and war mongering Hague who declared that the inspection was too late as the SAA had the time to “destroy” evidence

2013-08-26 16:01
http://www.news24.com/World/News/Experts-Nerve-gas-still-traceable-20130826

Paris – Traces of nerve agent would remain in victims for weeks, easily detectable if UN inspectors can examine people poisoned in last week’s suspected chemical weapons attack in Syria, experts said on Monday.

August 26th, 2013, 10:19 am

 

zoo said:

Iraq opposes use of airspace to strike Syria

As Western nations deliberate military response to Syria, neighboring Iraq rejects use of its airspace or territory to attack war-torn country
AFP , Monday 26 Aug 2013

Iraq said Monday it opposes the use of its airspace or territory in any attack on Syria, as Western powers warn of possible military action against Damascus.

“We do not agree to any use of our airspace … to attack any neighbouring country through our land,” Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s spokesman told AFP, asked if Baghdad would authorise the use of its airspace in any action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

“Our position is fixed on this subject.”

August 26th, 2013, 10:27 am

 

zoo said:

U.N. team returns to Damascus hotel after visiting site of alleged gas attack
August 26, 2013 05:26

DAMASCUS: A team of United Nations chemical weapons inspectors returned to their hotel in Damascus on Monday after visiting one of the sites of an alleged poison gas attack, a Reuters witness said.

The six-car convoy went to the Damascus suburb of Mouadamiya where the inspectors visited wounded people and took samples.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Aug-26/228726-un-team-returns-to-damascus-hotel-after-visiting-site-of-alleged-gas-attack.ashx#ixzz2d5PFtrKl

August 26th, 2013, 10:40 am

 

Alan said:

/Chancellor Merkel has called this chemical attack on innocent victims an “civilizational crime”. “If the crime is proven then the world community has to act, and Germany will be among those who will act.”/

Dear Lady Chancellor Merkel!
sorry to tell you that you speak against yourself!
Look no serious, after the big German participation in Under-counter dirty game in Syria!
Do not forget your allies to tell you about the secret details for creating reasons to exercise more pressure on my sovereign country?
it is no portliness from you!

Are the perpetrators punished?
http://youtu.be/NbcxaLcHpyo?t=1s
http://youtu.be/PnWLo1PbOs8?t=1s

August 26th, 2013, 10:40 am

 

zoo said:

Majed

Why don’t you ask your friends at Al Nusra to stop murdering old people?

August 26th, 2013, 10:42 am

 

Uzair8 said:

The end game has finally arrived it seems.

August 26th, 2013, 10:43 am

 

zoo said:

Samantha prefers Charlie Chaplin to Ban Ki Moon

Samantha Power, the US ambassador at the UN, missed the UN emergency meeting on Syria because he was in Ireland at the Charlie Chaplin Comedy Film Festival where her husband Cass Sunstein was a guest speaker.

http://www.herald.ie/news/power-criticised-for-trip-to-kerry-as-crisis-hits-un-29528683.html

August 26th, 2013, 10:47 am

 

Uzair8 said:

The end game has finally arrived…it seems.

August 26th, 2013, 10:49 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Dear First Lady of the Syrian Arab Republic

You may not be aware of this but Your husband has very likely carried out a chemical attack on the people of syria. As usual you’re probably the last to know.

Remember those days in Homs? Before the nuptials? Those perfect days?

Some tell us about perfect days in Damascus. The newly opened malls and life as normal. Those days are gone. The coming days, when the bomb drops, you’ll be the last to know.

Always the last to know.

August 26th, 2013, 11:06 am

 

Tara said:

I have serious doubt that Obama is going to lift a finger after the regime violated his redline. Obama is a weak president. He will over calculate. All those phone conferences, meetings, and moving ships to the Meditertanean are just a pretense. His statements say it all.

August 26th, 2013, 11:08 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Dear Mrs Assad.

It’s not too late to get out. There’s no safety, even in the high ground of the capital (hills, mountains).

Fellow Damascans (countryside) are probably telling you this:

We spent summers up beyond the bay
And you said these are such perfect days
That if the bomb drops baby, I want to be the last to know
But now you’re living up behind the hill
And though we share the same city and feel the same sun
When your winter comes
I’ll be the last to know

Del Amitri – The Last to Know

August 26th, 2013, 11:15 am

 

Uzair8 said:

1391. Don said:

UZAIR8 = AKBAR-PALACE = OMEN = the three Israeli propaganda stooges

Reading this the other morning I nearly choked on my tea! I had to spit it out. Honestly.

August 26th, 2013, 11:27 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Does anyone remember a twitter parody account of Channel 4 journalist Alex Thomson? Please let me know the name of the account as I can’t remember.

Amjad of Arabia will have known as he retweeted the said twitter account a few times however Amjad seems to have closed down his twitter account a couple of days ago.

The parody account was named something like ‘chancer Thommo’, I don’t know, can’t remember the wording or whether it was one word or two. The avatar was of a puppet.

Thanks in advance.

August 26th, 2013, 11:40 am

 

Juergen said:

Alan

The souvereignity of nations ends when the UN Charta for human rights is severely violated,( Syria is part of the UN, therefore the charta has to be observed) and we shall have the common sense that an chemical attack on its own citizens is an severe violation of human rights. Any nation, any leader who is doing so, should know his days are numbered.

Zoo

That means Assad Syria has given up the sovereignty on rebel held areas?

August 26th, 2013, 11:45 am

 

Alan said:

1673. UZAIR8 said:
/The end game has finally arrived…it seems./
let me correct! cheese still be in a mousetrap! the game is still at the stage of low-intensity! care!

August 26th, 2013, 11:54 am

 

Uzair8 said:

Sky News Newsdesk @SkyNewsBreak 9h
Reuters: Turkey’s Foreign Minister says it would join any coalition against Syria even if consensus not reached at UN Security Council

August 26th, 2013, 12:00 pm

 

revenire said:

I have just received a report from Air Force Intelligence that when the war starts Kafranbel is to be flattened and all there to be liquidated.

It isn’t too late for any of you cannibal supporters – the Twitter warriors – to go there to fight for your cause like men.

August 26th, 2013, 12:02 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

We need to start thinking about what ‘intervention’ will look like and it’s consequences. I’ll get the ball rolling.

Firstly let’s deal with Rev’s claims of 500,000 fatalities.
The figure is way too exaggerated. Civilians need not be affected. Intervention can be against bases, Assad’s air power, missile bases, chemical stockpiles, tank bases, air defences etc. Perhaps resulting in a no-fly-zone?

Once Assad’s airforce is knocked out loyal troops/shabeeha in far off places (Deir al zour, al-Shagour, Idlib city etc) will be isolated with no hope of support from the air. They’ll be vulnerable to rebels and will probably abandon the fight and escape or switch sides (defect). Alternatively they will face certain defeat and death.

Also, once intervention happens, Assad no longer controls the situation. Individual regime Officers in the field can be persuaded to peel away from Assad and defect. Similar to how behind the scenes the west was in contact with Saddam’s Generals. Many Officers will, along with their men, step back and not defend the regime. Intervention will persuade many that the game is up.

August 26th, 2013, 12:16 pm

 

Alan said:

1681. UZAIR8
Do you know how it works Russian policy under the leadership of Mr Putin?
Do you respond to the question with silence?

August 26th, 2013, 12:21 pm

 

zoo said:

#1679 Juergen

“That means Assad Syria has given up the sovereignty on rebel held areas?”

No, that’s why he is trying to free it from the terrorists who have occupied, just like Babo Amr, Homs and many other areas that the Army has regained control of in the last few weeks.
In the meantime it is a war zone and no regular army in the world takes responsibility for anyone wishing to visit a war zone.

You know the answer, are you playing dumb?

August 26th, 2013, 12:37 pm

 

zoo said:

Easy to lie in anonymity: The U.S “officials” who spread lies and rumors never give their name

Kerry to make statement on Syria

http://www.ktvu.com/news/ap/top-news/kerry-to-make-statement-on-syria/nZcf5/

U.S. officials say the administration is preparing to step up its criticism of the Assad regime as President Barack Obama considers possible military options to help speed an end to the crisis.

Copyright The Associated Press

August 26th, 2013, 12:44 pm

 

Alan said:

Russia will defend its interests on the Syrian issue!
http://youtu.be/QmxPUQ26W-Y?t=2s

August 26th, 2013, 12:45 pm

 

zoo said:

After saying ridiculous nonsense that the UN inspectors will find nothing because the Syrian army has destroyed all the evidence, Hague slips into Blair’s shoes

Earlier, he told the BBC that an agreement in the UN Security Council was not a vital precondition for such a response, without going into further detail.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-08-26/hague-at-number-10-amid-talk-of-a-syria-respsonse/

August 26th, 2013, 12:49 pm

 

zoo said:

Israel is very excited by the eventual destruction of its old time enemy thanks by its old time ally.

US will make legal case for striking Syria without UN approval
By MICHAEL WILNER, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT

Sources tell ‘Post’ the United States is preparing justification for use of force against Syria with allies, which will circumvent Russia, China vows to block military intervention; military action possible in coming daysSea [file]

August 26th, 2013, 12:53 pm

 

Heads-Up said:

Just so you all know, there will be military operations in Syria by NATO. The main objective of the operations will be to destroy all the WMD’s in that country, all the production facilities as well as all delivery systems.

….But before that happens, all air defenses and air force will be rubbled.

And Russia just sold out…as usual.

Just so you know.

August 26th, 2013, 1:25 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Assad ‘The Chemist’

Who is Mr Badr Jamous? Sounds great on first impression.

Anyway, I’ve said before how a Geneva 2 is the only hope for Assad regime/Iran/Hezbo. They cannot continue forever bleeding (men, money, resources).

It seems Geneva 2 is not happening now.

AJE Blog about 1 hour ago:

[…]

“It (the meeting) was for Geneva but we refused to speak about Geneva after what’s happened … We must punish this dictator, Bashar the Chemist we call him, and then we can discuss Geneva,” {SNC} coalition Secretary General Badr Jamous told Reuters news agency after the meeting.

[…]

August 26th, 2013, 1:30 pm

 

ghufran said:

This is from sheikh Ghazal’s brother:
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I think the drooling some of you have over a major military campaign against Syria will dry up in few days, as I said, it is either nothing or a symbolic strike that will actually backfire, the West and most of the world is unsure how to handle the Syrian war but at least they need to agree on fighting the animals of Nusra. A popular revolution that waits for NATO is neither popular nor a revolution, shame on any Syrian who is waiting for cruise missiles to hit Syria.

August 26th, 2013, 1:31 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

1683. Revenire said:

I have just received a report from Air Force Intelligence that when the war starts Kafranbel is to be flattened and all there to be liquidated.

URGENT!: Sounds like a threat of chemical weapon use. Concerned powers must prevent this immediately.

August 26th, 2013, 1:36 pm

 

revenire said:

As losses mount, Syrian rebels turn to teenage soldiers – Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/as-syrian-rebels-losses-mount-teenagers-begin-filling-ranks/2013/08/24/2bdbdfea-0a8f-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html

I am sure the Zionist Jon Stewart didn’t report on this when he visited Zaatari.

August 26th, 2013, 1:52 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair in a vision last night God appeared to me to say that nothing will save some when the fire comes. he said it won’t just be Syria burning.

August 26th, 2013, 1:54 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair on casualties: it could be a million.

No one knows. You don’t that’s for sure.

Before Iraq what was you guess of the dead?

August 26th, 2013, 1:56 pm

 

sf94123 said:

The U.S. will NOT take any action in Syria without the backing of the UN. just keeping the ‘status quo’..

August 26th, 2013, 2:01 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

I suspect there are different reasons for the awful tragedies that have overwhelmed different Middle East countries. In Syria, the very purpose of the Baath party was its own survival – way in front of its duty to care for the people – and thus the idea that it would crumble if confronted with peaceful protest and then with armed insurrection was a fallacy.

R. Fisk – 25/08/13

August 26th, 2013, 2:07 pm

 

Alan said:

The west will ignore Russians effort as it does not fit the regime change agenda they have had all along. ‘Will Russia stand up to the west? substantively so sure!

August 26th, 2013, 2:40 pm

 

sf94123 said:

Stop kissing other nations’ ass to bomb your country. No one is interested! Your country is already destroyed by your friends- No more death and destruction.

August 26th, 2013, 2:40 pm

 

Tara said:

“Other nations” are not going to bomb our country. Other nations (if lived up to the expectation) will be bombing the regime that killed more than 100 thousands Syrians, 1300 out of them using chemical weapons.

Stop the nonsense about being patriotic all of a sudden. You are not even fooling yourself. Supporting Assad is killing his people is not patriotism. It is just hatred, plain and simple. Syria should be cleansed from Assad and Everyone who supports his massacres.

August 26th, 2013, 2:51 pm

 

William Scott Scherk said:

The Institute for the Study of War has released a detailed examination of the strategy and tactics necessary to degrade the Syrian Air Force. This is probably the best guide to what we can expect should the USA and allies give the green light to a bombing campaign. The report was uploaded on July 31st.

Required Sorties and Weapons to Degrade Syrian Air Force

August 26th, 2013, 3:02 pm

 

Ilya said:

Strike on Syria is imminent
Kerry was very bias and angry in his manipulative speech indication,action is coming soon.
I thought he was about to announce a war, looks like they are going to wait for Congress approval.
This week we will find out what NATO got up their sleeve.

August 26th, 2013, 3:13 pm

 

omen said:

Amjad seems to have closed down his twitter

what happened?

August 26th, 2013, 3:18 pm

 

revenire said:

“Amjad seems to have closed down his twitter”

“what happened?”

I heard someone ate him.

August 26th, 2013, 3:21 pm

 

Badr said:

Powell on Assad: He’s a pathological liar.

“Zoo”: Powell . . . is certainly not entitled to pass any judgment on liars.

Glad to read from you for a change, an honest judgment of the despot. 😉

August 26th, 2013, 3:22 pm

 

sf94123 said:

Tara Said: “Other nations” are not going to bomb our country. Other nations (if lived up to the expectation) will be bombing the regime that killed more than 100 thousands Syrians, 1300 out of them using chemical weapons—————
If that’s true, can you explain the million plus casualties of the Iraq War? Are you naive or something? Why don’t you go a head and kill Assad alone– Why do you want to kill him and additional 3 million Syrians along the way?

Tara said: “Syria should be cleansed from Assad and Everyone who supports his massacres” ——— Are you going to cleanse your country from Jihadists , Islamists and supporters who killed and slaughtered thousands and committed many massacres as well! or when it come to you and your people, you turn your head away – every things goes.

August 26th, 2013, 3:31 pm

 
 

Hopeful said:

#1663 Majedkhaldoun – I salute you!

Thank you for your statement. It shows that decent conservative Syrian Muslims will reject radicalism and extremism.

#1670 Zoo – you had nothing better to say? Why not start b condemning any of the regime’s hundreds of atrocities and senseless killings?

August 26th, 2013, 3:34 pm

 

Alan said:

Russian President, Saudi Spy Chief Discussed Syria, Egypt


Putin: Our stance on Assad will not change

Regarding the Syrian issue, the Russian president responded to Bandar, saying, “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters. During the Geneva I Conference, we agreed with the Americans on a package of understandings, and they agreed that the Syrian regime will be part of any settlement. Later on, they decided to renege on Geneva I. In all meetings of Russian and American experts, we reiterated our position. In his upcoming meeting with his American counterpart John Kerry, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov will stress the importance of making every possible effort to rapidly reach a political settlement to the Syrian crisis so as to prevent further bloodshed.”

As soon as Putin finished his speech, Prince Bandar warned that in light of the course of the talks, things were likely to intensify, especially in the Syrian arena, although he appreciated the Russians’ understanding of Saudi Arabia’s position on Egypt and their readiness to support the Egyptian army despite their fears for Egypt’s future.

The head of the Saudi intelligence services said that the dispute over the approach to the Syrian issue leads to the conclusion that “there is no escape from the military option, because it is the only currently available choice given that the political settlement ended in stalemate. We believe that the Geneva II Conference will be very difficult in light of this raging situation.”

At the end of the meeting, the Russian and Saudi sides agreed to continue talks, provided that the current meeting remained under wraps. This was before one of the two sides leaked it via the Russian press.

/Prince Bandar; say what??
When did we Americans elect him or any Saudi to speak for us and negotiate on our behalf? Don’t we have John Kerry for this particular job?/ 🙂

August 26th, 2013, 3:45 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

1702. omen said:

What happened?

Let’s just say it seemed he was despairing. I think his account went offline a day or two before the chemical incident. If he had stuck around for a day or two longer I believe he will have been reminded of the regime’s ruthless depravity and regained the moral clarity and continued the fight.

Btw where is Syrian Commando. I suspected he would return on twitter at such a time of escalation but no. I had a look earlier.

August 26th, 2013, 3:47 pm

 

Tara said:

SF, remove Assad,and punish the murderers and then will ask the world powers not to intervene on our behalf. Until then, the world can’t and shouldn’t stand idle watching you people cheering the annihilation of Syrian children.

August 26th, 2013, 3:58 pm

 

Alan said:

Do not puff yourself like a frog sake of your health!Increase in lying even believe yourselves!
 Who can now in this circumstance simulate a major regional wars mimic where the interests of great powers like Russia and China?

August 26th, 2013, 3:59 pm

 

sf94123 said:

I still don’t think the U.S. will interfere! The entire thing does not serve the interest of U.S and the American people. No one wants to start or be responsible for a new war in the ME. I could be wrong! I hope not.

August 26th, 2013, 4:04 pm

 

omen said:

1674. Tara said: I have serious doubt that Obama is going to lift a finger after the regime violated his redline. Obama is a weak president. He will over calculate. All those phone conferences, meetings, and moving ships to the Meditertanean are just a pretense. His statements say it all.

his “big event of grave concern” comment?

it did have a hollow ring to it. like someone trying to pretend to give a damn.

over a thousand people gassed to death & i’ve yet to see obama exhibit an ounce of urgency about it.

August 26th, 2013, 4:13 pm

 

apple_mini said:

“Our sense of basic humanity is offended not only by this cowardly crime but also by the cynical attempt to cover it up,” Kerry said during his state department statement.

Seriously? United states of America, do they still think people around the world as gullible as before 2003?

We have a nasty bully coming in town and declaring he is here for upholding justice.

Of course Syrians and anyone with conscience are cynical because we see what are the forces dominating the world: money and muscle.

August 26th, 2013, 4:17 pm

 

sf94123 said:

No one is cheering the annihilation of Syrian children! it is a criminal act and whoever was responsible must be held accountable. I don’t care who- Period.

August 26th, 2013, 4:27 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

At this stage to say US will do nothing is so stupid, ,to say it is going to be just a slap is a mistake, all wishful thinking,
one of the possibility is limiting the strike to around Damascus, most of Assad troops are around Damascus, it makes sense to strike military bases there, Qassioun mountain is priority,warning to all soldiers in that area,they will be hit for sure
Also all military airports close to Damascus will be hit, Assad will lose all his aircrafts
The strike will be devastating to the regime,then we will see a quiet period, during which Assad is expected to resign and leave, if nothing then he will be hit again and again. free syrian army will be able to advance and Damascus will be free.

August 26th, 2013, 4:27 pm

 

Ali said:

Real Syrians will not call for a war against their own country and people. You’re all bunch of traitors, connected with external agency, and terrorists allies.

It’s time to prove your loyalty to your own home country if you still belong to Syria. Let’s just stop and make peace forgetting all the atrocities you have done and putting them behind our back. We need to be shoulder by shoulder at this critical time.

We’re offering our hand of peace for you to save our country, come acknowledge your obedience to al-ASSAD and in return we will have presidential election at the end of 2014 and everybody lives happily.

It’s your time to take this offer, drop the arms and come home.

August 26th, 2013, 4:35 pm

 

Ali said:

Those who are cheering about the Russian statement, go sit on Khazouq.

The Syrian authorities asked and urged the Russians to issue such a statement as part of the deceiving game. In reality, Russia with all its people, resources and technology is backing Syria al-ASSAD

August 26th, 2013, 4:39 pm

 

Ali said:

Gods don’t get defeated.

August 26th, 2013, 4:41 pm

 

Syrialover said:

As many are pointing out, Kerry’s speech sets a very firm platform for action. Firmer than anticipated.

Importantly – and this will mess with the heads of some here – this is no longer about Syria and Assad, it’s about the use of chemical weapons.

It’s been elevated beyond taking sides in the Syrian conflict. The whole world has a commitment to act against those who use chemical weapons. And the whole world is clear in the belief that Assad is guilty of this – and that he has been scrambling to destroy the evidence.

How dumb and desperate and arrogant the regime has been to bring this on. Good to watch Russia squirming.

August 26th, 2013, 4:42 pm

 

Ali said:

Away from taashbeeh, there’s some tension arising in loyalists area.

Yesterday the circle of Babkeh went down from 20 to 16 in 3osh Elwarwar.

Wenak ya abo Ali

August 26th, 2013, 4:46 pm

 

Syrialover said:

And it’s also going to be about destroying the source and supplies of CW, making sure the extremists don’t get hold of them.

Assad’s reputation in history – the idiotic thug who used chemical weapons not believing the overwhelming risks of global backlash.

August 26th, 2013, 4:48 pm

 

Ali said:

Glory to ASSAD Glory to God

August 26th, 2013, 4:51 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Repeat, it’s not about bringing down Assad to “win the war” (much as we eagerly wait to celebrate that outcome).

It’s now about taking out those who use military means to gas sleeping children. Acting to make sure they don’t do it again.

August 26th, 2013, 4:58 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALI, you’re raving religiously. Are you preparing for martyrdom?

Your idols in the inner regime circles won’t be. They will be hunkering down with their bags packed ready to scurry like rats.

August 26th, 2013, 5:02 pm

 

Ali said:

1725. Syrialover,

No they won’t they are brave fearless lions and tigers, we all will die defending our country not like you terrorists allies cheering to destroy the country.

Keep in my what our eternal father Hafez said

“martyrdom or victory, and I say martyrdom before victory because martyrdom makes victory”

August 26th, 2013, 5:07 pm

 

revenire said:

Has the invasion started? I wanted to go for a swim before the guests arrive.

August 26th, 2013, 5:08 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALI, you really are raving and deranged. Or are you competing with REVENIRE for a comedy act?

August 26th, 2013, 5:10 pm

 

Ali said:

“Has the invasion started?”

There will be no invasion.

The heroes of SAA are tracking every moving target in a circle covering Europe , North Africa and ME.

BIG, fat, rough, not oiled khazouq is waiting for those terrorists allies

August 26th, 2013, 5:15 pm

 

revenire said:

Kerry was pretty funny. The moral indignation part was when I started laughing the hardest. I give him 5 stars (out of 10).

August 26th, 2013, 5:21 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Remember not long ago I predicted the possibility of the regime, Iran and Hezbo publicly blaming each other and finger pointing when things start to go wrong?

This after their victories were drying up and rebels were building momentum. Recall how I referred to Khan al Asal where 150 regime troops were killed (some executed)? I asked people to imagine if these had been Hezbo casualties and the fallout back in Lebanon (families etc).

Remember how I described Iran and Hezbo facing their very own ‘Vietnam’?

Now imagine behind the scenes right now. Imagine how furious Iran and Hezbo will be at being placed in one hell of a situation, if indeed the regime, either higher ups or an officer in the field, have ordered/carried out this attack?

Iran and Hezbo will be giving the idiotic regime officials the hairdryer treatment and cursing the day they got involved.

Now they’re in BIG trouble. They were warned the criminal regime will bring them down with it. Now let them reap what they sowed.

Intervention is coming and they are embroiled knee-deep.

August 26th, 2013, 5:30 pm

 

SYRIAN HAMSTER said:

To sum it up
you’r screwed

August 26th, 2013, 5:36 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

I haven’t been following the news in recent days only the reaction online etc.

I’ve just heard Kerry on BBC Radio 4 and that sounded very serious. Sounds like they’ve already decided.

August 26th, 2013, 5:37 pm

 

sf94123 said:

Can Obama act on Syria without appearing to be a hypocrite or a fraud?
The president told CNN: “If the U.S. goes in and attacks another country without a U.N. mandate and without clear evidence that can be presented, then there are questions in terms of whether international law supports it.
Today’s Syria is a toxic combination of Islamic fanatics, terrorists of all kinds, stockpiles of horrible chemical weapons, and depraved Iranian masters poised to acquire the world’s most dangerous weapon.
read more!
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/08/26/can-obama-act-on-syria-without-appearing-to-be-hypocrite-or-fraud/#ixzz2d77qk1zh

August 26th, 2013, 5:44 pm

 

revenire said:

Uzair I think you’re drunk on the possibility of an attack. That’s what I think.

Do you honestly believe that Syria, Iran and Hezbollah didn’t take into consideration there’d be an attack by the West? Of course they did. The US has only threatened to about 100 times since this started. Everyone in the world saw what the US did in Iraq and Libya.

Relax. Let the big war start and at the end of it let’s see who comes out on top.

August 26th, 2013, 5:51 pm

 

Alan said:

1734. UZAIR8
You are a supernatural person in intelligence!You deserve a beard razor ! 🙂
The cheese still be in a mousetrap! whether there is wishing to have it?

August 26th, 2013, 6:19 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

Alan

‘Cheese’, ‘Mousetrap’?

You mean to say this is all a trap Assad has set for the International Community? LOL.

Assad’s bold claims of victory weren’t just bluster but real confidence?

August 26th, 2013, 6:34 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

A couple of Yalla Souriya updates:

Posted 30 minutes ago:

Paradoxy13

Several loud explosions have been heard in #Damascus

Posted 25 minutes ago:

?Paradoxy13

How I crave for that moment when the artillery on mount Qasioun in Damascus is blown to bits.

August 26th, 2013, 6:41 pm

 

Ali said:

Uzair8

Go back to Pakistan and spread your version of democracy and freedom amongst your terrorist friends.

How did you reach the UK? was it on a boat or hiding in a truck?

let me guess your (or your parent’s) refugee case in the UK?
Very simple running away from terrorists and extremists in Pakistan, yet you still come and cheer for them

pathetic by all means

August 26th, 2013, 6:49 pm

 

Syrialover said:

This is funny.

“Faisal Mikdad, [Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister] said he is “100 percent confident” that neither the Syrian army nor anyone who is part of the Syrian government used chemical weapons, adding the Syrian regime “will never use them against its own people, if it has them.”

(http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-interview-official-says-syria-defend-itself)

Is Mikdad preparing to use this as his get out of jail card when the regime collapses? Pleading “I didn’t know, your Honor” in defense.

August 26th, 2013, 7:02 pm

 

Heads-up said:

Hysterical sudden traffic on all highways leading to Beirut from Syrian cities reported in the last few hours. Most vehicles have tinted glass and special license plates.

Hezbollah fighters, suddenly demoralized, flee their positions in the southern Homs region. Some abandoned their weapons on site, and some even shed their uniforms for regular clothes in an attempt to blend with civilians and to flee ahead of advancing FSA troops bolstered by fresh and qualitative weapons recently acquired.

August 26th, 2013, 7:05 pm

 

Ali said:

Heads-up

Shut your face you traitor this is not happening and won’t happen, it’s one of your wet dreams ya manyak

All of you sharaameet and love to sleep around with your white and Gulf masters, you were born to be slaves and you will die sucking up, it’s in your DNA

August 26th, 2013, 7:09 pm

 

revenire said:

Heads-Up I can imagine what sort of things you do with that fantasy in your mind.

August 26th, 2013, 7:19 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Read Kerry’s speech in full (link below). It’s serious, and very good.

Then compare it with the empty hogwash coming out of the Assad and Putin camps. Outclassed as humans and out of their depth.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08/26/full-remarks-kerrys-pointed-remarks-on-syria/

August 26th, 2013, 7:27 pm

 

revenire said:

John Kerry, a moral failure of a man – a war criminal

1. Key underling message: “Al Qaeda (al Nusra), whose name he avoided to mention like death, would never use chemical weapons.”

2. Al Qaeda and the US would never fabricate any evidence.

3. Therefore, it is enough for the UN investigation team only to establish whether chemical weapons were used. Since, according to Kerry’s sophistic logic, only the Syrian government could do so and no one else. (Again let’s don’t mention the damn al Qaeda in Eastern Ghouta).

4. The only other evidence Kerry used was the alleged “refusal” of the Syrian government to grant immediate access to an area, which the government does not control. Anyone who has followed this, knows that this is a blatant lie and also a fallacious argument.

5. In the absence of arguments, Kerry was pointing to the images made by al Qaeda that controls the site.

6. The rest was Kerry’s brazen lecturing of the world on the topic of conscience and cynicism.

August 26th, 2013, 7:30 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALI you continue to talk like an intending martyr.

What of your hero, mercenary militia boss Nasrullah? You told us he’s been dining in Damascus with Assad. Will he stick around in his fancy dress to become a martyr?

Whether he stays or goes before the strikes, like his cowardly loser host Bashar he’s got no future, nowhere to go.

August 26th, 2013, 7:35 pm

 

Syrian said:

Chemical Bashar is now using while phosphor bombs on civilian in Aleppo
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-?????? ??? ??????? ??? 8 ????? ?????? 100 ???? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ????????? ?????? ,? ??????? ????? ?? ???? ????? ?? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ???? .

http://youtu.be/sPczTI717FA

http://youtu.be/AGp8Wnl9P-I

August 26th, 2013, 7:42 pm

 

Alan said:

As Obama continues to shove the blame on Syria’s Assad over the chemical attacks that were admitted by mainstream media months ago to be planned by the Obama administration to initiate military activity in Syria, declassified CIA files reveal that the US government has a history of assisting and facilitating chemical attacks against innocents.
Specifically, the declassified files expose the deeply nefarious relationship between the Reagan-led United States government and Iraq’s Saddam Hussein. And just as Obama decries the chemical attacks within Syria that were actually launched by his administration as a pretext to military action, it is now revealed that Reagan played the same card back in 1988.
In both scenarios, we see that the administrations had no problem gassing women and children if it meant furthering their agenda.

For Obama, it means turning Syria into another Libya scenario, requiring the chemical attack in order to unleash the full military force of the United States in a ‘humane’ way through the response to the attacks. For Reagan back in 1988, it was essential to secure an Iraq victory first and foremost. And if it meant chemical attacks on Iran, then so be it. After all, the US government would simply deny it.
As Air Force Col. Rick Francona put it when speaking to Foreign Policy on the declassified documents,
“The Iraqis never told us that they intended to use nerve gas. They didn’t have to. We already knew.”
You see at this time, when the attacks started in 1983, Iran could not properly pinpoint Saddam’s Iraq in the attacks. Ultimately, it came down to the United States protecting Saddam despite knowledge of the entire event. This is history repeating once more as well, since we now see the Obama-backed Syrian rebels actually carrying out the attacks for Obama as the US government plays ignorant
Take a look at the description within the Foreign Policy report on the play of events………….
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/history-repeats-cia-docs-reveal-us-aided-saddams-chemical-attacks/62998/

August 26th, 2013, 7:46 pm

 

Syrialover said:

REVENIRE #1758,

Is Kerry’s speech in language at a level unfamiliar to you?

Otherwise you would do better than those empty irrelevant points someone has issued to you.

Particularly weak distractionst stuff.

Come on, stop giggling to yourself and give us a proper response to what America has said!

And quick look under your bed and behind your chair, there might be someone from al qaeda there.

August 26th, 2013, 7:48 pm

 

zoo said:

US only ‘morals’ is protecting Israel. The rest is fallacy.

Sugar coating the necessary neutralization of the chemical weapons and the Islamists to protect Israel by a display of tear jerking compassion and outrage for the killed Syrians is laughable.
Among other war crimes, the USA has collaborated with their ex-friendly dictators in middle east, like Saddam Husein to kill hundred of thousands Iranians with chemical weapons made in Germany. Hundred of Iraqi children were killed by the US troops in the Iraqi war based on fabricated intelligence.
The blood on the USA hands and its hypocrisy does not entitle it to suddenly preach morality.
Kerry’s speech is an old fashioned hypocritical preaching full of Uncle Sam cliches.
What was missing is a box of Kleenex.

August 26th, 2013, 7:50 pm

 

zoo said:

Americans Would Rather Get a Root Canal or a Colonoscopy than Launch War Against Syria

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-08-26/americans-would-rather-get-root-canal-or-colonoscopy-launch-war-against-syria

We noted last month than Congress is less popular than North Korea, cockroaches, lice, root canals, colonoscopies, traffic jams, used car salesmen, Genghis Khan, Communism, BP during the Gulf oil spill, Nixon during Watergate or King George during the American Revolution.

The Washington Post notes today that a Syria intervention is less popular than Congress. So that means that the American people would much rather get a root canal or a colonoscopy than bomb Syria.

Indeed, while John Kerry announced today that the Syrian government used chemical weapons, Reuters noted:

The polls suggest that so far, the growing crisis in Syria, and the emotionally wrenching pictures from an alleged chemical attack in a Damascus suburb this week, may actually be hardening many Americans’ resolve not to get involved in another conflict in the Middle East.

The bottom line is that Americans are sick of war.

August 26th, 2013, 7:55 pm

 

omen said:

1721. majedkhaldoun said: At this stage to say US will do nothing is so stupid,to say it is going to be just a slap is a mistake, all wishful thinking,

i don’t know any more than anybody else. i’m waiting to see what happens, but in obama interview:

“If the U.S. goes in and attacks another country without a U.N. mandate and without clear evidence that can be presented, then there are questions in terms of whether international law supports it. Do we have the coalition to make it work? And, you know, those are considerations that we have to take into account.”

is that likely to happen? is obama going to get a un mandate to sanction strike? was there a deal struck to russia to avoid veto?

while kerry sounded hawkish, obama spokesperson still insists only political solution can resolve crisis.

August 26th, 2013, 7:57 pm

 

Syrian said:

So it turned out the only smart one of Hafiz’s kids is his daughter Bushara moving in with the Gulf Shaykhs,she is having so much fun she brought Anisa to enjoy herself there too..

August 26th, 2013, 7:58 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALAN, don’t bore us with conspiracy stuff from some odd site.

Please instead finish telling us about cheeses and mousetraps (#1673 etc).

You’ve left us begging for more on that subject.

Are the chemical weapons the mousetrap? Is Assad the cheese? Or is Putin setting a mousetrap for Assad so Russia can accept the new Saudi oil offer in return for abandoning Syria.

More please about mouses and cheese.

August 26th, 2013, 8:03 pm

 

Alan said:

There is such a term as “critical loss”, usually, according to statistics the loss equ-t 10% of the aggressor attacking troops the lead to a decline surgery.
Crucial to the conflict will be the amount of losses the aggressor-attacking side the Western teams is very well understood that.

August 26th, 2013, 8:04 pm

 

Heads-up said:

Ali, Revenire,

Enjoy also my first entry at 1693.

August 26th, 2013, 8:04 pm

 

Syrialover said:

SYRIAN #1758

Maybe Bashar’s sister Bushra’s husband was blown up by some in the Assad circle who would like to see her out of the way too.

She may have left because of enemies very close to home.

All will be revealed later as an entertaining aside to the end of the Assads.

August 26th, 2013, 8:11 pm

 

omen said:

Assad shelled civilians with White Phosphorous in Aleppo during John Kerry’s speech:

[video]

https://twitter.com/SeekerSK/status/372102346903273475

August 26th, 2013, 8:14 pm

 

omen said:

1721. majedkhaldoun said: At this stage to say US will do nothing is so stupid

how many times has the US promised it will arm the rebels?

August 26th, 2013, 8:20 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Here Alan. Is Putin being offered some cheese or not?

Is it making his whiskers and tail twitch?

“Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria”

EXCERPT:

Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria.

Leaked transcripts of a behind closed doors meeting between Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan shed an extraordinary light on the hard-nosed Realpolitik of the two sides.

Prince Bandar, head of Saudi intelligence, allegedly confronted the Kremlin with a mix of inducements and threats in a bid to break the deadlock over Syria.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/saudis-offer-russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-syria-20130827-2smvt.html#ixzz2d7le9vFp

August 26th, 2013, 8:25 pm

 

Uzair8 said:

I wonder what Edward Dark has to say about the phosphorous attack on his city Aleppo?

August 26th, 2013, 8:25 pm

 

Alan said:

1760. SYRIALOVER
I see had risen your voice?SAVE your voice please to describe the conditions of mothers of hi-tech fighters after receiving unpleasant news!

August 26th, 2013, 8:25 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ALAN

I’m quiet. I’m patiently listening to hear some squeaks from you about cheese, mousetraps and all that.

Please continue what you started.

Surely you don’t want Putin to miss that chance of oil riches because of Bashar Assad.

August 26th, 2013, 8:33 pm

 

zoo said:

Opinion: Life goes on for the Assads

http://www.aawsat.net/2013/08/article55314839

Life for Syrian president Bashar Al-Assad is going on as usual. Anyone who thinks that the phase following the chemical massacre in Eastern Ghouta will be any different to before is certainly delusional.


Public opinion got a little busy with photos of children killed by the gas and then went on to look after other affairs.
….
Al-Jazeera tripped up in its coverage of the shelling of Ghouta with chemical gas. Not one piece of news preceded the fights of the Brotherhood at Rabia Al-Adawiya Square in Cairo and the release of former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak.

This is also true of other Arab and Western media outlets.

Hours after the news of the chemical massacre surfaced, it fell to the fifth position on the most-read section of BBC Arabic. News of Mubarak’s release and another on sex workers arrested in the Maldives preceded the former piece of news on Syria in the most read section.

News and photos of the chemical gas massacre in Ghouta, with women and children estimated to be 67 percent of the total victims, did not come first in many media outlets’ follow-up and was not among the public opinion’s concern. This daily massacre in Syria has been continuous for two and a half years, so why would murder with chemical gas be distinguished as merciless slaughter?

Life is normal in Syria. Twenty-four hours after the Ghouta massacre, Assad issued a governmental amendment about the ministries of tourism and commerce, emphasizing the role of the consumer protection authority. Is there something more important these days than encouraging tourism and the Syrian consumers’ rights?

A few days before the chemical shelling, Syria’s first lady, Asma Al-Assad, appeared in images on Instagram cooking with a group during a civil aid activity. The first lady was wearing an Accurate-branded watch that is not available in Syria today. She must have made significant efforts to attain it. This watch counts calories, the number of footsteps and heartbeats and the extent of physical activity its wearer practices.

Life is really going on as normal in Syria. All that is needed are amendments to the tourism ministry and a calculation of daily physical activity.

So why would the phase after a chemical massacre be any different from the phase before it?

August 26th, 2013, 8:37 pm

 

Syrian said:

Syrialover@1762
Looking back at that assassination,it was too good to be true,most likely Maher killed Assaf because He was very viable alternative to the Assad clan.he was very ambitious and had his own network with everybody.
He was the intended target not Bushara,who is now living very happy in Dubai.!

August 26th, 2013, 8:42 pm

 

Tara said:

Hehe. Russia will not lift a finger.

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????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? ???????? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ?? ????? ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ?? ?????.

August 26th, 2013, 8:44 pm

 

Ghufran said:

This piece makes more sense than the childish talk on this blog:

A senior US administration official said over the weekend that there is “very little doubt” that a chemical weapon was used by the Syrian regime against civilians in an incident that killed at least a hundred people last week.
However Gary Samore, the White House’s co-ordinator for arms control and weapons of mass destruction until earlier this year, said that the administration will struggle to prove the Syrian government ordered the attack to a “legal standard.
“There is no doubt, I think, that we will establish that a large number of people were exposed to chemical weapons, probably nerve agent, probably sarin, but you’ll never be able to prove beyond a doubt who ordered it or who actually carried out the attack,” Samore said.
“Even if the US had compelling evidence, it would probably be too sensitive to release. This is one of the reasons I think why President Obama will want to get as much official support as possible.”
Samore, who worked under Obama for four years, said the president would be reluctant to authorise military action without significant international support – possibly through Nato, with the backing of a coalition of partners from the Middle East.
Even then, Samore predicted the president would avoid military action that constitutes more than a “gesture” to the Syrian regime.
“I don’t think we’re talking about a major no-fly zone or even an across-the-board attack on chemical weapons facilities, which is very, very, demanding,” he said.
“I think it is much more likely you’ll see limited strikes against specific targets, either associated with chemical weapons or with command and control. The intent will be basically a warning: to say to Assad, if you do this again, we will be committed to taking further action.”
He added: “If Assad ignores those warnings, which is plausible, then the president is on the hook to take further action – and it has to be bigger than it was the first time. That is how you get into these wars.”
Samore that the recent strengthening of rhetoric may not signify military strikes, suggesting the White House may choose some other sanction, such as more robust support for Syrian rebel groups.
The former White House official said most of the pressure for the more muscular approach is coming from the the region with limited if any support for military action in the US, outside of Washington.
( Obama in his second term does not want to be remembered as the president who sat down and did nothing when chemical attacks took place but he also does not want to be remembered as the Black GW Bush, I think he will launch a limited strike. The fantasies by some on this blog is laughable, the only thing that is not funny is that Syrians allowed hundreds of children to die from chemical weapons regardless of who was behind the attack)

August 26th, 2013, 8:44 pm

 

Syrialover said:

Life goes on for the Assads.

Bashar Assad is busy with laws encouraging tourism and protecting consumer’s rights!! (Does that last one extend to being bombed in bread queues?)

While anorexia-looking Asma Assad is wearing a luxury imported watch that counts calories.

Ah ZOO maybe you didn’t mean to, but you have given us the biggest laugh of the week in #1769.

August 26th, 2013, 8:51 pm

 

Syrian said:

1693. HEADS-UP said:

“Just so you all know, there will be military operations in Syria by NATO. The main objective of the operations will be to destroy all the WMD’s in that country, all the production facilities as well as all delivery systems.
….But before that happens, all air defenses and air force will be rubbled.
And Russia just sold out…as usual.
Just so you know.”

Russia always sells out her clients

August 26th, 2013, 8:53 pm

 

zoo said:

Kerry declares war to Syria and should bears the consequences of his threats.

The USA threatening and provocative accusations seem to be giving a green light to Syria to make use of its defensive weapons, including its alleged chemical weapons, against “foreign invaders” as it warned repeatedly.
Any USA accomplices in this eventual aggression, whether Arab countries or foreign countries will become the target of retaliation.
Would the Patriots and Iron dome be able to stop chemical weapons rockets?

August 26th, 2013, 8:56 pm

 

Syrialover said:

#1770. No, no SYRIAN, the plot is thicker and more complicated than that.

Why would Maher blow his own leg off to kill Assef Shawkat? (Though he’s probably that incompetent).

And since her husband was killed by those inside the tent why would Bushra, his alleged boss and champion, feel safe hanging around with her children?

It’s a wonderful sordid and sinister soap opera. The family Assad.

August 26th, 2013, 8:58 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

????? ????? ??????? ???? ?? ????? ??????? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ?????

August 26th, 2013, 8:59 pm

 

Alan said:

The official story is that Assad is stupid enough to invite UN Chemical Weapons inspectors into Syria, and on the very day they arrive, unleash a chemical weapons attack, not against the leadership of the hired mercenaries trying to depose him, but against women and children just a few miles from where the UN inspectors were staying.

And if you believe THAT one, have some of Saddam’s nuclear weapons to sell you!

Really America is sick and the rest of the western world is also sick!

August 26th, 2013, 9:02 pm

 

Tara said:

Russia was never a concern. All of us knew from the begining that it will sell out. The concern now is HA and its masters in Iran unleashing terror operations killing more Syrians and targeting American interests. I hope the US will also take action against this terrorist organization. The only issue is that those cowards are hiding behind civilians in residential neughborhood.

August 26th, 2013, 9:05 pm

 

Syrialover said:

GHUFRAN, if you look at statements from governments around the world you’ll find the US is far from alone in its strong stance and accusations against Assad and use of CW.

I hope you took time to read Kerry’s statement. It wasn’t long, but very powerful.

(Again, why don’t you ever give sources? It’s dumb and makes your posts look suspicious.)

August 26th, 2013, 9:10 pm

 

Ali said:

Stop it I said stop it you’re driving me crazy

There will be no war

Russia is with us but we asked them to issue that statement.

Stop saying nonsense, no one can challenge al-ASSAD even God

August 26th, 2013, 9:13 pm

 

Syrialover said:

#1781

ALI you have driven YOURSELF crazy. Right here on SyriaComment while we all watched. (Though maybe it’s a silly hoax, like the REVENIRE character)

You need help for your mania before you do something reckless. Like becoming a martyr for a non-cause.

August 26th, 2013, 9:18 pm

 

zoo said:

Syrian

The article is written by a pro-rebels writer and published by the Saudi mouthpiece. Therefore it is intended to express bitterness at the Arabs low interest in what is happening in the region and to try to ridicule the regime that continues working as nothing is happening

Yet what emerges is contrary of the intentions of the writer.
It shows that the Syrian government is far from panicking, that it is still extremely psychologically strong: Public services have been restored in cities and towns it has control of. Restaurants are open, salaries are paid, electricity cut is limited to only 2 hours or 3 hours a day, Internet is working, food is available etc..

For a country under the heaviest sanctions any country has ever faced, it is a proof of the extreme resilience, smartness and vitality of this government, whether you like or not.

If you find laughable the Syrian government achievements in a time of war, then what do you do when we watch the SNC pathetic achievements after 2 years: Failed promises of a ‘transitional goverment’ , constant disunity in its rank, the pollution of the FSA by Al Qaeda or the music chair of their leaders and their sponsors and lately the “national Army’ financed by Saudi Arabia.

We obviously have a different sense of what is funny and what is pathetic.

August 26th, 2013, 9:18 pm

 

Ali said:

???? ????? ???? ???

August 26th, 2013, 9:20 pm

 

Tara said:

Syrialover

“While anorexia-looking Asma Assad is wearing a luxury imported watch that counts calories.”

I think in case of Asma, It is a matter of self-perception.  If one is ugly inside, he/she thinks they are ugly outside too…and nothing they can do to make them feel beautiful.

August 26th, 2013, 9:21 pm

 

Alan said:

In favor of any party this war will be ? There is destruction in most of the Syrian cities and now it’s your turn to destruction transfer!
That would be a part of the justice!Tell me please : Who is the ally, who can bear the destruction?

August 26th, 2013, 9:22 pm

 

zoo said:

“War will legally empower Syria to act in self defense”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/9092113/Barack-Obama-orders-report-to-justify-Syria-strike

According to the McClatchy Washington Bureau, “the US will enter a state of war with Syria if cruise missiles start flying, no matter what the operation is called”.

War, in turn, will legally empower Syria to act in self-defence; perhaps in some unexpected ways.

But while a US-led attack appears increasingly likely, the legal underpinnings for lethal action remain ambiguous. Congress won’t formally declare war. The last time it did that was 1941, when America entered World War II.

Lawmakers might consider authorising force after summer recess on Spetember 9, but missiles could easily launch before then. Russian or Chinese resistance could block United Nations Security Council approval.

August 26th, 2013, 9:23 pm

 

Ali said:

This is another reason of the Russian statement, Russia does not want to show its sharp teeth at this stage. The Russian bear is about to wake up from his hibernation and will deliver a blow after a blow with its sharp claws to our enemies.

“??? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ??????. ?? ???? ??? ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ?? ???????? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ???? ??????? ??? ???? ??????. ???? ????? ???? ????? ??? ??????? ?????? ????? ????????? ???????? ????? ????????? ?? ???? ????? ???? ???? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ?????… ???? ?? ??? ??? ?????!”

August 26th, 2013, 9:24 pm

 

omen said:

maybe there is value in ratcheting psychological pressure:

The families of senior figures in the Assad regime were fleeing Syria on Monday night, ahead of an anticipated US-led strike against regime targets, Israeli Television reported.

“The families of some of the heads of the regime” were flying out of Latakia Airport in the west of the country, Channel 2 News said.

Israeli media Monday night assessed that the likelihood of a US-led strike on Assad regime targets was all but certain in the wake of an alleged chemical weapons attack last Wednesday in which the regime killed hundreds of civilians outside Damascus. The Channel 2 report said that the US was believed likely to give Israel advance warning of any such strike, to enable Jerusalem to prepare for any repercussions.

August 26th, 2013, 9:25 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria lover

(Kerry speech) It wasn’t long, but very powerful.

OMG , powerful? Yawn

August 26th, 2013, 9:26 pm

 

omen said:

1781. no one can challenge al-ASSAD even God

are assadi going to mass suicide in the event bashar gets taken down?

get the kool aid ready.

August 26th, 2013, 9:31 pm

 

Syrian said:

#1776
You are right in that case but no one have seen if Maher is legless yet,
But if that is true then it must be Chemical Bashar who done it and tried to get rid of them both.
Bushra did not feel safe, that is why she moved away immediately to the sandy beaches of Dubai.
If there was ever a case were life imitate art, the Assad clan is it,they so resemble the Corleone family in every detail,except where the idiot son Bashar/Fredo get the job instead of the tough son Maher/Michael.And where the widow daughter take care of Michael kids while this one.Bushra leaves to enjoy the sunset in Dubai.

August 26th, 2013, 9:32 pm

 

Ali said:

“are assadi going to mass suicide in the event assad gets taken down? ”

Assadists = Real Syrians

Yes Syrians ready to fight to the last drop of their blood for al-ASSAD and Syria sovereignty

No ASSAD won’t go down, because he’s a God and Gods don’t go down

August 26th, 2013, 9:33 pm

 

zoo said:

SYRIAN

“Russia always sells out her clients”

Oh yes? Who sold out Iran’s Shah, Egypt’s Mobarak, Libya’s Qaddafi, Chili’s Pinochet, Nicaragua’s Somoza and recently Egypt’s Morsi?

Could you do a bit of reading before writing ridiculous nonsense? You better stick to commenting TV series or soap operas.

August 26th, 2013, 9:33 pm

 

Syrialover said:

ZOO, you haven’t even read Kerry’s speech. Your brain is buzzing too much with anxiety about what a mess Bashar has made in his own pants.

August 26th, 2013, 9:38 pm

 

omen said:

dont drink the kool aid, ali.

August 26th, 2013, 9:39 pm

 

Alan said:

ALI !
Russia and China like to slide down the United States of America in the Syrian trap!Landis has repeatedly warned of Vietnam in Syria!
McCain! Vietnam war criminal! Do not you want confrontation?
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=ar&u=http%3A%2F%2Frus.ruvr.ru%2Fnews%2F2013_08_26%2FGosdep-SSHA-Informacija-o-primenenii-himoruzhija-v-Cirii-realna-i-ubeditelna-4280%2F&sandbox=1

August 26th, 2013, 9:40 pm

 

Syrian said:

Zoo
Trolling me now? The subject is Syria and Russia, you worry about Russia dumbing you, the well known America dumbing her clients is of no relevance here,
Leave trolling to rev, it dose not suit you.

August 26th, 2013, 9:43 pm

 

zoo said:

While Kerry clearly announced punishing actions on Syria, the White House refuses to speculate about military action. Will Obama consult Samantha Power, the Human Rights, UN and Charlie Chaplin expert?

Obama Weighs Syria Decision

http://www.voanews.com/content/obama-syria-decision/1737542.html

August 26, 2013
WHITE HOUSE — When President Barack Obama makes a decision about a response to the August 21st chemical weapons attack in Syria, the White House says he will lay out the case to the American people and the world.

After Secretary of State Kerry’s statement Monday on Syria and the chemical attacks, Obama’s spokesman faced a barrage of questions from reporters at the White House news briefing.

When might President Obama make his decision? What response would be proportional to the reported chemical weapons attack? And how will Congress be involved?

White House spokesman Jay Carney refused to speculate about a potential military response to what the U.S. calls a violation of an international norm against the use of chemical weapons.

August 26th, 2013, 9:43 pm

 

Ali said:

shraamet kelkin shraamet bedi qawsekom ya manayeek

August 26th, 2013, 9:44 pm

 

Tara said:

Reve

Where are you?

Is the depression settling in?

Avoid alcohol you know. It makes the depression worse.

Let me know if you need help.

August 26th, 2013, 9:44 pm

 

Ghufran said:

1772
Obama likely to resist broad Syria intervention regardless of UN findings
White House official says administration will struggle to prove Assad regime ordered chemical attack to a ‘legal standard’

Paul Lewis in Washington
theguardian.com, Monday 26 August 2013 12.36 EDT
( does this make my post look smarter ? )

August 26th, 2013, 9:45 pm

 

Ali said:

1797. Alan

Lak 3ayni rabak init

Yes man that’s very true, we surely will welcome them properly

August 26th, 2013, 9:46 pm

 

zoo said:

1795. Syrialover

I watched it and find it as boring as Al Khatib speeches.
It is just a mixture of self-righteousness clichés

August 26th, 2013, 9:47 pm

 

Alan said:

UN: Damascus sufficiently cooperating with experts on chemical weapons
Obama will meet with Putin during the G20 summit in St. Petersburg

August 26th, 2013, 9:54 pm

 

Long Time, First Time said:

Long time reader of this site, but my first time leaving a comment.

I just want to say I am looking forward to the meltdown the likes of Revenire will have when they watch their Prophet Assad finally thrown out of power.

I really wish I could read his senseless comments as the US is destroying Assad’s entire military, but I am afraid he will mysteriously stop commenting here once the bombs start falling.

August 26th, 2013, 9:55 pm

 

zoo said:

Syria Lover

The only anxiety I have is that the hysterical USA is getting ready to kill a lot of innocents Syrians to protect Israel.

Despite the media censorship and the propaganda that it will implement to hide the murders, the truth of Americans bombing Syrians will emerge. I expect that it will trigger a shift in the Arab countries public opinion about Syria.

August 26th, 2013, 9:56 pm

 

Ali said:

Sorry guys but it seems it’s getting serious.

The army just asked every officers/soldiers of the Syrian air defense units to report back to duty as soon as possible. They have even called for reserve for specific areas specially air defense.

I’m not worried about our heroes in the army, but I’m really concerned about the innocent people in very densely populated neighborhoods.

August 26th, 2013, 9:58 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Here is another ” smart” post:
As it emerged that the West could launch cruise missiles within days, a poll found wide public opposition to British involvement in “any kind” of military action in Syria. In a survey of 2,000 people by YouGov, only nine per cent supported sending British troops to fight in Syria, with 74 per cent against. Three-quarters backed sending humanitarian aid.

August 26th, 2013, 10:01 pm

 

zoo said:

Has Egypt found the right path to secularism after the ridiculous failed Morsi’s episode? Is Al Sisi Egypt’s Ataturk

Secularists to dominate Egypt’s final constitution-drafting process
Representatives of secular forces are expected to dominate the 50-member committee entrusted with writing the final draft of Egypt’s new constitution

Islamists, who dominated the 100-member constituent assembly that drafted Egypt’s 2012 constitution, will be a minority.

August 26th, 2013, 10:04 pm

 

Tara said:

Should the strike occurs, Syrians and the Arab world will forever feel indebted to the Americans for helping them. I think the strike will favorably change how the Arab world views America.

August 26th, 2013, 10:05 pm

 

zoo said:

Has Egypt found the right path to secularism after the ridiculous failed Morsi’s episode? Is Al Sisi Egypt’s Ataturk

Secularists to dominate Egypt’s final constitution-drafting process
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/79983/Egypt/Politics-/Secularists-to-dominate-Egypts-final-constitutiond.aspx

Representatives of secular forces are expected to dominate the 50-member committee entrusted with writing the final draft of Egypt’s new constitution

Islamists, who dominated the 100-member constituent assembly that drafted Egypt’s 2012 constitution, will be a minority.

August 26th, 2013, 10:05 pm

 

Alan said:

In Cyprus, noted increased activity of military aircraft
In the area of ??the British Sovereign Base of Akrotiri in Cyprus marked by increased activity of military aircraft amid growing tensions around wracked by internal conflict in Syria. This writes the London newspaper Guardian. A day earlier, media reported on alerting Navy kingdom to deliver a “possible missile strikes” against targets in SAR

August 26th, 2013, 10:07 pm

 

Ali said:

5 units of the Russian S-300 long range surface to air missile system are FULLY operating in Syria. 3 of them are around Damascus and 2 are by the coastal area.

What a perfect opportunity to test them to full capacity.

August 26th, 2013, 10:07 pm

 

omen said:

really??

The Assad regime has evacuated Headquarters of Military Staff in the Amawyeen in Damascus in anticipation of a military strike.

somebody is panicking ?

August 26th, 2013, 10:14 pm

 

Alan said:

The Syrian opposition is preparing a “very important announcement” on the situation in the country

As the representative of the National Coalition of Syrian Monzer Makhous, on Tuesday, the member countries of the “Friends of Syria” will make a “very important” speech, and the next three or four days “will be full of events that the region and the world has not seen for many years” 🙂

August 26th, 2013, 10:18 pm

 

zoo said:

Now that the US, the UK, France and Turkey, the staunchest enemies of the Syrian gov, have decided not only that chemical weapons were used but that the Syrian government did it, one wonders why these countries have pressured so much for a UN investigation. What’s now the relevance of the UN investigative team? Should’nt they go home?

Syria: Obama has little choice except to respond, but will he punish Assad or destroy the regime?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/davidblair/100232546/syria-obama-has-little-choice-but-to-order-some-form-of-military-response/

The United Nations inspectors are due to visit the scene of the attacks later today. But one important point has been misunderstood, notably by Lord Ashdown in his article in The Times. The mandate of the UN team allows them to establish whether chemical weapons have been used – NOT who was responsible. Given that everyone now agrees that poison gas was employed in the suburbs of Damascus last Wednesday, the UN mission is beginning to look irrelevant.

The question is not whether the atrocity happened, but who did it? And that is the question the UN is explicitly forbidden from answering. The experts might uncover evidence that indirectly points the finger – they could, for example, discover exactly which chemical agents were used – but (Lord Ashdown please take note) they are not going to settle the issue of responsibility. This might explain why William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, bluntly blamed the regime.

August 26th, 2013, 10:18 pm

 

Syrians said:

Zoo @1783
You are mixing me up with some else AGAIN, I did not post any article.take some downers you are so hyper.

August 26th, 2013, 10:19 pm

 

Ghufran said:

Threats to attack Syria is now more than 48 hours old, there will probably be few more days left before the first missile falls on Syria , this is done intentionally for a number of reasons, and this delay will give the intended target plenty of time to take precautions.
Lavrov statement as disappointing to some as it is gives Russia extra room to keep things under control, those who expected lavrov to say that russia will directly attack NATO if the latter bombs Syria are naive, however,what Lavrov was saying is that if NATO needs a fig leaf to keep its face russia will not stop that as long as the proposed strike stays within Russia’s acceptable limits. I will stop writing on this blog if NATO launches the type of campaign some of you are dreaming about. Nobody including the USA trusts the rebels enough to give them the keys to Damascus , do not kid yourself and go try some herbal tea to calm your nerves.

August 26th, 2013, 10:23 pm

 

zoo said:

#1815 Alan

Get ready for the opposition and the zealous expats hailing Obama and crying of happiness that the USA will bomb Syria.
Will they distribute sweets after the first ‘surgical strike’ that the Western media will reports as having made just a few collateral human casualties.

August 26th, 2013, 10:23 pm

 

Tara said:

Omen @1814

“The Assad regime has evacuated Headquarters of Military Staff in the Amawyeen in Damascus in anticipation of a military strike.”

Run cowards, run!

August 26th, 2013, 10:23 pm

 

Alan said:

The US Government is trapped!
the US is unable to turn around and return to status quo ante!!!
What is Obama’s next step in Syria?
no longer a propaganda option he can use!

August 26th, 2013, 10:25 pm

 

Ali said:

“Will they distribute sweets after the first ‘surgical strike’ that the Western media”

We will not forgive and will take revenge.

August 26th, 2013, 10:27 pm

 

zoo said:

#1817 Syrian

“1817. Syrians said: ”

Have you become “SyrianS” now? Are you trying to confuse us even more with a plural. In any case none of you guys, using “Syria” on their nickname and parotting each other deserves to use that qualifier.

August 26th, 2013, 10:31 pm

 

Ali said:

We will take the first round of rockets and absorb it, and maybe the second and third. What next? nothing because that’s the maximum they could do and it will be our turn to decide what to do, we will wipe off every town and city of those traitors terrorists allies, we will dig mass graves for them and most importantly we will celebrate their death.

As Ghufran once said, only the naive will think that few rockets will topple 40 years old regime.

It’s ok traitors it’s ok, keep laughing and cheering for the death of the real Syrians but we will stand up again to get everyone of you.

August 26th, 2013, 10:33 pm

 

majedkhaldoun said:

Saddam hid in a pit undergroun, Qaddafi hid in sewage tube, Assad will hide in Elait river ??? ????

August 26th, 2013, 10:36 pm

 

zoo said:

1773. Syrialover

Read post 1783, it was addressed to you as a response to yor post.

August 26th, 2013, 10:37 pm

 

Syrian said:

LOL@Zoo
I rest my case,
Now a Labanise is telling us who is qualified to be a Syrian.that is another joke.

August 26th, 2013, 10:38 pm

 

zoo said:

Wouldn’t the US be tempted to use that opportunity to strike Islamists targets?

August 26th, 2013, 10:41 pm

 
 

Ali said:

????? ????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?? ????

August 26th, 2013, 10:41 pm

 

Alan said:

1829. ZOO
????? ? ???? !

August 26th, 2013, 10:42 pm

 

zoo said:

#1827 fake syrian(S)

“Labanise”, sorry I don’t live in Laban. Do you?

August 26th, 2013, 10:45 pm

 

Ali said:

Fake Syrian(S):

Seems like you’re obsessed with Labani, If you feel like Labani then I can feed you very creamy think Labani

August 26th, 2013, 10:48 pm

 

Alan said:

1829
The west says that in Syria they will have to battle not only with the SAA, but also with a lot of militant groups who are now fighting against SAA.

August 26th, 2013, 10:50 pm

 

Ali said:

They’re moving the S-300 unit from Qasion to somewhere in Damascus else

???? ??????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ??? ?????? ? ????? ??? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ???? ?????? ??????

August 26th, 2013, 10:51 pm

 

Alan said:

Mr John Kerry!
should also apply to those who sanctioned the carnage and aftermath in Falluja?
The children of Falluja
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2009/nov/14/falluja-children-iraq-conflict

August 26th, 2013, 10:58 pm

 

Syrian said:

While every one was busy the last 2 days with Damascus, the Syrian people were able to liberate the towns of khanaser today and Araiha yesterday,with that cutting off all supply lines to Chemical Bashar militias,
Also they got huge military supplies including 3 tanks and few hundreds anti tank missiles
http://youtu.be/ctgZY0FuJ2s

Destroying a tank that belong to Chemical Bashar militia.
http://youtu.be/8vzBn3zpcN0

August 26th, 2013, 11:02 pm

 

Alan said:

Syria: Another Western War Crime In The Making

Washington and its British and French puppet governments are poised to yet again reveal their criminality. The image of the West as War Criminal is not a propaganda image created by the West’s enemies, but the portrait that the West has painted of itself.

Indeed, one reason for the rush to war is to prevent the UN inspection that Washington knows would disprove its claim and possibly implicate Washington in the false flag attack by the “rebels,” who assembled a large number of children into one area to be chemically murdered with the blame pinned by Washington on the Syrian government.
……
In an attempt to prevent the UN chemical inspectors who arrived on the scene from doing their work, the inspectors were fired upon by snipers in “rebel” held territory and forced off site, although a later report from RT says the inspectors have returned to the site to conduct their inspection

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/08/26/syria-another-western-war-crime-in-the-making-paul-craig-roberts/

August 26th, 2013, 11:13 pm

 

zoo said:

Russia has issued angry statements after Israel twice bombed targets in Syria a few months ago. It will probably do the same if NATO bombs few “symbolic” military targets.
Then as the opposition will feel revenged and satisfactorily boosted by its alliance with the West, the UN , Russia and the USA will call again for the Geneva conference in October

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/will-erdogan-slam-putin-after-g-20-summit.aspx?pageID=449&nID=53275&NewsCatID=412

The general view dominating Ankara is that Russia won’t do much, other than issue angry statements, if a military strike were to take place. Actually, it is not Russia that has been tying the hands of the Western countries about intervening in Syria, but rather their own hesitations. Were they to decide to take action, it won’t be Russia that they will be worried about.

However, Russian cooperation is still important in both handling the issue without a military strike and handling the issue after the strike. In the current situation, it looks like there will be a limited intervention, which will come short of toppling the regime altogether.

The West needs Russia for the transition period in Syria, which is why the final decision for the military strike might have to wait until next week’s G–20 summit in St. Petersburg.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an will go to Russia to attend the summit.

Interestingly, he has been quiet for some time on Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is the main supporter of Syria’s Bashar al–Assad. Erdo?an has asked to have a bilateral meeting with Putin on the margins of the G-20 summit, but it is highly unlikely for the two to find common ground on Syria. We’ll see if Putin will make it onto the hit list, upon Erdo?an’s return to Turkey.

August 26th, 2013, 11:22 pm

 

zoo said:

Who added that heading title that does not reflect neither the reality nor the content of the article?

“Kerry says Assad will pay” for Syrian chemical attacks, as sniper fire hits UN convoy

Phil Sands
Aug 27, 2013


A consensus, uniting pro- and anti-Assad factions, has emerged that some form of chemical weapon was used in two rebel held areas on the outskirts of Damascus.

Medecins Sans Frontieres, charity working inside Syria, said it had tracked 3,600 patients displaying “neurotoxic symptoms”, of whom 355 had died.

But there is no agreement on who released the poison gases.

“It’s a classic case of the fog of war … there are too many people running around with too many agendas to get a clear picture, the whole place is an appalling minefield,” said a military security advisor who works with international NGO in tracking the conflict.

“We know Assad has chemical weapons and he would surely use them if pushed, but there are extremists, Al Qaeda, in the rebel side who we know have been trying to get their hands on chemical weapons for some time and they would probably also use them if they could.

“We may never really know the truth,” he said.

Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/kerry-says-assad-will-pay-for-syrian-chemical-attacks-as-sniper-fire-hits-un-convoy#ixzz2d8YCSoXD

August 26th, 2013, 11:30 pm

 

Alan said:

1840. ZOO
Is the United States of America will be able to bear the consequences of adventure?

August 26th, 2013, 11:38 pm

 

zoo said:

The opposition is on for a huge disappointment as the USA will never weaken Syria enough to have the Islamist dominated opposition take over. The USA wants to just “send a punitive message” to Syria not to think about using chemical weapons against Israel.
The opposition will just be forced to go to the Geneva conference officially agreed upon between the USA and Russia and by the UN

Ironic Lavrov: “Why go to a conference if you believe that the regime’s infrastructure will all be destroyed anyway by allies, and then you can just march into Damascus unopposed, and take control?

http://rt.com/news/lavrov-syria-press-conference-003/

August 26th, 2013, 11:42 pm

 

Syrian said:

Great video
A father find his son after he lost him during the chemical attack on Damascus subreb
http://youtu.be/sS9bz29DTSE

August 26th, 2013, 11:45 pm

 

revenire said:

There was no chemical attack by the Syrian government on anyone.

August 27th, 2013, 12:08 am

 

Ziad said:

My fellow Americans,

It’s been two years since our humanitarian bombs dropped over Libya, and over a decade since our troops stormed the sands of Iraq only to be greeted with open arms as liberators. Today, we face a new challenge.

Backed by the trusted military-industrial complex, this Nobel Peace Prize-winning four-term President knows the time for intervention in Syria is drawing near. For too long, we’ve done nothing! We’ve sat on the sidelines and acted as mere bystanders, having no role whatsoever in what is going on in Syria.

Sure, we funded and armed the freedom-loving, al-Qaeda-linked, mostly non-Syrian “rebels”. Sure, we’ve stationed U.S. troops in Jordan and Turkey to keep Syria’s borders surrounded. Sure, we’ve backed Israel as they’ve launched airstrikes inside Syrian territory. But none of that matters! What matters is my finely-polished rhetoric, and that rhetoric says we’ve played no role. Based on that, you should believe me.

Why? Because this four-term President has a long track record of telling the truth! I told you the truth about Iraq. I told you the truth about Libya. And today, I’m telling you the truth about what’s going on in Syria.

With that said, it’s almost time to move FORWAR! Please ready your handy American flag and prepare to patriotically wrap it around your head so your eyes are securely blinded.

Thank you, and may God bless Goldman Sachs, Raytheon, Boeing, General Electric, and Lockheed Martin.

Hands of Syria

August 27th, 2013, 12:11 am

 

omen said:

no, dont run, assadi. take the full force of the impact blast.

incoming ?

August 27th, 2013, 12:18 am

 

Syrian said:

Can Chemical Fredo Bashar Corleone grt anymore stupider?

“An American president who has tried desperately to keep the United States out of another war in the Middle East is now weighing a military attack on Syria — cornered by his own statement that a large-scale chemical weapons strike would be a “red line” forcing Washington to respond”

“It began just after 2 a.m.
Those who heard the explosions and lived to tell about them were surprised at the sound, saying it was “like a water tank bursting” or “like opening a Pepsi bottle.”

Then came the smell, which burned eyes and throats, like onions or chlorine.
At the time of the strikes, a few hours before morning prayers, most people were still asleep in their homes. The substance released by the barrage of rockets, which crashed into suburbs on two sides of Damascus, killed many people before they were even able to get out of their beds”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/world/middleeast/blasts-in-the-night-a-smell-and-a-flood-of-syrian-victims.html?hpw

August 27th, 2013, 12:18 am

 

Juergen said:

Razan Zaitouneh

eye witness report from Gouta:

“I havent see such death in my whole live.”

August 27th, 2013, 2:24 am

 

Juergen said:

Reve and the other regime cheerleaders,

how about you all make what all regime cheerleaders do in the end, round-up around your eternal leader and act as human shields to protect ministries like the one for tourism and commerce, so young drafted soldiers wont have to lose their life for this mafia boss. I am sure you will find supporters among the democratic Putin youth organization Nashi to add some numbers.I think you should buy your ticket soon.

August 27th, 2013, 2:29 am

 
 

Juergen said:

interesting vison:

” In a world in which there reasonable politics would reign,the following could happen soon:after a telephone conversation in which Barack Obama would credibly assure the Russian president that Russia could use its port on the Syrian Mediterranean coast for at least fifty years Putin agrees to a resolution to the Security Council, after which, based on the International Standard of the “responsibility to protect” (R2P), an international intervention force would be authorized to end the civil war in Syria as soon as possible.”

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.taz.de%2FDebatte-Syrischer-Buergerkrieg%2F%21122544%2F

August 27th, 2013, 3:30 am

 

Ziad said:

Storm Clouds Gathering

Download for leaked Britam Defence document showing plans to frame Syria with chemical weapons.

http://stormcloudsgathering.com/leaked-britam-defense-syrian-documents-download?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

August 27th, 2013, 10:54 am

 

revenire said:

Juergen your cannibals are recruiting child soldiers from Za’atari – they’re running low on men. Now is your chance to ride, strapped to a cruise missile, to victory.

August 27th, 2013, 11:00 am

 

revenire said:

Heads-Up maybe 1-2 people will read your long, boring post. I skip it and only comment to laugh at your rumors.

🙂

August 27th, 2013, 11:00 am

 

Ziad said:

What The Media Isn’t Telling You About The Syrian Chemical Attack :

Al Nusra Front Also Has Sarin Gas

Since the reported chemical attack last Wednesday, the Obama administration and members of Congress have been pushing the line that Syria’s President Bashar al Assad ordered the use of a chemical weapon on the outskits of Damascus.

According to CNN, one U.S. officials claims “There is nothing credible to indicate that the rebels, either the Syrian National Council or even al-Nusra Front, have used chemical weapons,” the official said. “Only the Assad regime is responsible for chemical weapons use.”

But that statement is false. When it comes to this latest incident, at this point we don’t know what kind of chemical might have been used. Nor do we know who used it. Some of the claims early on from “unnamed government sources” were that sarin gas was used in that Damascus suburb. The use of sarin gas would point toward the Assad regime, would it not?

Not necessarily. What our national media isn’t telling you is that in May Turkish security forces found a 2kg cylinder with sarin gas after searching the homes of Syrian militants from the Al-Qaeda linked Al-Nusra Front. Where did the sarin gas come from? We don’t know. But clearly, Al Nusra Front has access to sarin gas and was planning a use for it.

http://benswann.com/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-syrian-chemical-attack/

August 27th, 2013, 11:16 am

 

Ziad said:

Syrian Kurdish leader says Assad not to blame for attack

(Reuters) – Syrian President Bashar al-Assad would not be “so stupid” as to use chemical weapons close to Damascus, the leader of the country’s largest Kurdish group said.
Saleh Muslim, head of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD), said he doubted the Syrian president would resort to using such weapons when he felt he had the upper hand in the country’s civil war.

He suggested last Wednesday’s attack, which the opposition says was carried out by government forces and killed hundreds of people, was aimed at framing Assad and provoking an international reaction. Assad has denied his forces used chemical weapons.

“The regime in Syria … has chemical weapons, but they wouldn’t use them around Damascus, 5 km from the (U.N.) committee which is investigating chemical weapons. Of course they are not so stupid as to do so,” Muslim told Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/26/us-syria-crisis-kurds-idUSBRE97P0Q520130826

August 27th, 2013, 11:30 am

 

Rammi said:

Guys, if you are against military intervention and bombings of Syria, I ask you to sign and help me spread this petition. http://tinyurl.com/n9g7jzc
Thank you.

August 28th, 2013, 7:11 pm

 

ghufran said:

you know how bad things are in Syria when Lebanon is seen as a safe haven for air travel to Syria:
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??????: ??????

August 30th, 2013, 10:39 am

 

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