Zabadani Ceasefire Collapses, as fighting spreads
Posted by Joshua on Wednesday, January 18th, 2012
The cease fire in Zabadani has collapsed due to government strikes on the city, reports Brian Whitaker of the Guardian. Earlier the BBC announced that the Syrian army ‘agrees to ceasefire in Zabadani’, which had been reported by Radwan Ziadeh in the US. There was some excitement about the cease-fire development when it was first announced because it suggests that the Syrian military is overwhelmed by the spread of conflict to towns on the outskirts of Damascus. It also suggests that regions of Syria were falling out of government control and staying out of government control to create a “Libya like” situation where rebels could operate and organize without remaining on the run.
Opposition members argue that the Free Syrian Army based in Turkey are spearheading and commanding the fight in Zabadani. Nir Rosen, who has recently come out of Syria after a two month stay, argues on al-Jazeera (linked below) that the opposition claim of the existence of a centrally commanded Free Syrian Army is a myth. He claims that the militias that are springing up in different towns are locally commanded and organized and do not take orders from Col. Asaad or his FSA in Turkey. If this is true, it suggests that multiple militias are emerging, which may eventually struggle for command of Syria and take the place of the Syrian Army, unless they can negotiate some agreement on a central command. In the meantime, it is convenient for the opposition to call opposition forces the Free Syrian Army.
Film of the death of of the French journalist near the end of the clip. Friends explain that this film was taken in Homs in an Alawite neighborhood, which was hit by a mortar, killing a number of people on the street and the French journalist. Opposition sources argue the mortar was launched by government operatives in order to make the opposition look bad for killing civilians and to stir up civil war. Government sources blame it on opposition forces who are firing on Alawi districts. They argue that mortars cost only $400 and can be smuggled from Lebanon and Iraq without much trouble. This film clip is proof of how difficult it is to understand what is going on based on YouTube movie clips.
Sky News broadcast this Homs story from a team that visited the Alawi and Christian neighborhoods of Homs. As the reporter explains, the pro-Assad sentiment and reports of torture by opposition members expressed in this story are as one sided, but perhaps as representative, as other reports from opposition neighborhoods, such as the BBC report “Syria Undercover” broadcast a month ago. It is worth noting that Alawis and Christians only make up about 20% of Syria.
No plan to send Arab troops to Syria: League source
CAIRO | Sun Jan 15, 2012
(Reuters) – The Arab League has not received any official request or suggestion that it send Arab troops to Syria, an Arab representative to the Cairo-based League told Reuters on Sunday.
Qatar’s emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, said on Saturday that Arab troops may have to step in to halt the bloodshed in Syria since the start of protests against President Bashar al-Assad in March.
“There is no official suggestion to send Arab troops to Syria at the current time … There has been no Arab or a non-Arab agreement on a military intervention in Syria for the time being,” the representative to the League said.
Why deny Syria is in a civil war?
Posted on January 16, 2012 by Jeremy Pressman
Erica Chenoweth has a concise post arguing that Syria now meets the academic definition of a civil war. Her thoughts beg an interesting follow-up question: if Syria is in a civil war, why isn’t it being called a civil war?
In the United States, one possibility is that the Obama administration prefers a narrative of democratic protest against a brutal regime. A civil war, which means both pro- and anti-regime violence, muddies that narrative. For instance, in late December, a Syrian opposition figure said he told (h/t syriacomment.com) US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton about a nascent guerilla movement:
To my surprise, she asked that the defectors lay down their arms. That’s an odd request. Why didn’t they ask the rebels in Libya to lay down their arms? How can they do it if at any moment they can be fired at and murdered? It’s impractical.
If Secretary Clinton is still trying to discourage Syrian opposition violence, then admitting a civil war is underway would not be helpful. (Are Clinton or other US officials afraid that a civil war would be a pathway to sectarian fighting and spreading regional violence?)…..
Syrian MP, Tribal Chief Go into Exile
by Naharnet Newsdesk
A leading MP and an opposition figure who heads Syria’s largest tribe announced they have defected and gone into exile, in interviews broadcast on Monday on Al-Arabiya television.
“I have come to Turkey to activate the opposition. The Syrian revolution is our path. The country’s youth are making the greatest sacrifices for a better future,” Al-Baqqara tribal chief Nawaf al-Bashir told the satellite channel.
Bashir said he had been coerced to appear on state television in Syria to praise the reforms which President Bashar al-Assad says he has launched.
He was a key supporter of the so-called Damascus Declaration which opposition leaders issued in 2005 to press for reform. He says he has been interrogated by the security services more than 75 times.
MP Imad Ghalioun, a member of parliament’s budget committee, said he had chosen Egypt as a base to try to help the opposition achieve “freedom and dignity” for the Syrian people in a future democratic state.
Fear of Civil War Mounts in Syria as Crisis Deepens
By ANTHONY SHADID
BEIRUT, Lebanon — The failure of an Arab League mission to stanch violence in Syria, an international community with little leverage and a government as defiant as its opposition is in disarray have left Syria descending into a protracted, chaotic and perhaps unnegotiable conflict.
The opposition speaks less of prospects for the fall of President Bashar al-Assad and more about a civil war that some argue has already begun, with the government losing control over some regions and its authority ebbing in the suburbs of the capital and parts of major cities like Homs and Hama. Even the capital, Damascus, which had remained calm for months, has been carved up with checkpoints and its residents have been frightened by the sounds of gunfire.
The deepening stalemate underlines the extent to which events are slipping out of control. In a town about a half-hour drive from Damascus, the police station was recently burned down and in retaliation electricity and water were cut off, diplomats say. For a time, residents drew water in buckets from a well. Some people are too afraid to drive major highways at night.
In Homs, a city that a Lebanese politician called “the Stalingrad of the Syrian revolution,” reports have grown of sectarian cleansing of once-mixed neighborhoods, where some roads have become borders too dangerous for taxis to cross. In a suggestion that reflected the sense of desperation, the emir of Qatar said in an interview with CBS, an excerpt of which was released Saturday, that Arab troops should intervene in Syria to “stop the killing.”
“There’s absolutely no sign of light,” said a Western diplomat in Damascus, a city once so calm it was called Syria’s Green Zone. “If anything, it’s darker than ever. And I don’t know where it’s going to end. I can’t tell you. I don’t think anyone can.”
Ian Black reports: Sipping tea in a smoky Damascus cafe, Adnan and his wife, Rima, look ordinary enough: an unobtrusive, thirtysomething couple winding down at the end of the working day in one of the tensest cities in the world. But like much else in the Syrian capital, they are not what they first seem: […]
Resolute Syrian President to Use ‘Iron Fist’, Debate Over International Intervention Propels Disunity Among Opposition
On Tuesday, January 10 during an address at Damascus University, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad highlighted ongoing government reforms and vowed to continue the government’s fight against terrorism and international conspirators. For its part, the Arab League observer mission in Syria has already been deemed a failure; violence has heavily intensified with over 400 killed since the first of its members arrived in country two weeks ago. At the same time, fuel and heating oil shortages, as well as a growing dearth of affordable food stuffs, are posing serious challenges to nearly all.
Videos: Patrick Seale and Nir Rosen on Syria Thanks to War in Context
Syrian opposition row over foreign military action nixes unity effort
By Ashish Kumar Sen
The Washington Times, Friday, January 6, 2012
Pro-Syrian regime protesters shout slogans and hold portraits of Syrian President Bashar Assad during a demonstration Jan. 4, 2012, in Damascus, Syria, to show solidarity for Assad. (Associated Press)Pro-Syrian regime protesters shout slogans and hold portraits of Syrian President Bashar Assad during a demonstration Jan. 4, 2012, in Damascus, Syria, to show solidarity for Assad. (Associated Press)
Efforts by the U.S. and the Arab League to work with a unified Syrian opposition have been stymied, mostly due to two opposition groups’ disagreement on foreign military action to oust President Bashar Assad.
A weeks-long effort to build a coalition between Syria’s two main opposition groups — the Syrian National Council and the National Coordination Body for Democratic Change in Syria (NCB) — collapsed this week after it was reported that the groups had agreed to reject foreign intervention.
News of the deal caused an uproar in the Syrian National Council’s ranks, and the leadership quickly accused the NCB of passing off as a final agreement what they had considered talking points for an Arab League-sponsored opposition conference later this month.
A fractured opposition complicates international engagement and casts doubt about a post-Assad government.
The Syrian National Council supports international intervention, and in a meeting on Tuesday, its executive committee officially rejected the purported agreement with the NCB.
“We didn’t want to be on record saying we are against foreign intervention. We are for foreign intervention, but we don’t want to exchange a bad regime for an occupier,” said George Jabboure Netto, an Syrian National Council member.
It would be up to the U.N. Security Council to decide what intervention, including airstrikes, is required, he said. “We are not going to dictate how they should go about this.”
Press Release
SNC and FSA Agree on Activating Coordination Mechanism
A delegation from the Syrian National Council (SNC) met with the leadership of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) on Thursday, January 12, 2012. The goal of the meeting was to increase the level of coordination and activate mechanisms of communications between them. The delegation, headed by Dr. Burhan Ghalioun, extensively discussed the situation on the ground and the organizational capacity of the FSA with Colonel Riad Al-Asa’ad and his deputy Malek Kurdi. Included in the discussion was an assessment of needs including reorganization and restructuring of FSA units. The parties agreed to formulate a detailed plan, to include the reorganization of FSA units and brigades, and the creation of a format to accommodate within FSA ranks additional officers and soldiers, especially senior military officials, who side with the revolution.
“Is Al-Qaeda Infiltrating Syria Through Lebanon’s Beka’a Valley?”
by Nick Heras for Jamestown
Syria politics: Pride before a fall?
January 10th 2012, FROM THE ECONOMIST INTELLIGENCE UNIT
The Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, has delivered his fifth speech since the popular uprising against his regime erupted in March 2011. Many of the themes were familiar—blaming the crisis on foreign conspiracies and Islamist terrorists, and offering promises of reform—and Mr Assad reiterated his resolve to crush the uprising by force. There was also a note of satisfaction that his regime has managed to check the efforts of some Arab League member states to press actively for UN Security Council intervention. However, this respite may not last.
The last time Mr Assad made a public appearance was on August 1st when he made a speech to mark army day. Since then Syria’s internal conflict has become steadily more violent and the regime has faced increasingly determined pressure from the EU, Turkey and, most recently, the Arab League. The death toll among Syrian civilians is now thought to exceed 6,000; the regime claims that more than 2,000 members of its security forces have been killed. There have also been two bomb attacks in Damascus that the government has tried to blame on al-Qaida, but which the opposition claims to have been staged by the regime in order to validate its narrative about external terrorist threats. The EU and Turkey have imposed economic sanctions, which have had a severe impact on the regime’s finances, and the Arab League, having suspended Syria’s membership, threatened to impose its own sanctions, until the government agreed terms for the dispatch of Arab monitors tasked with overseeing a reduction in regime violence against unarmed protesters…….
Discord
Another positive development from Mr Assad’s perspective has been the discord in the ranks of some of his opponents. The Syrian National Council (SNC) has tried to project itself as the most representative force among the opposition, having drawn together many of its strands, including the Muslim Brotherhood, exiled liberal intellectuals, Kurdish groups and activists from the underground local co-ordinating committees (LCCs) operating within Syria. However, another opposition group, the National Co-ordinating Body (NCB), some of whose activists remain in full view inside Syria, has become a thorn in the side of the SNC. Representatives of the two groups met in Cairo at the start of January, and news emerged suggesting that they had agreed on a common platform, including a rejection of international intervention and an agreement to negotiate with regime elements not directly implicated in violence. The SNC quickly denied that any such agreement had been reached and that the NCB had leaked a discussion document; the NCB denied this, and accused the SNC of backtracking. The NCB’s external leader, Haitham Mannaa, has derided his rivals as being a toxic mixture of Islamists and neo-conservatives, and has insisted that Syria’s future should remain an exclusively Arab concern. Bourhan Ghalioun, the chairman of the SNC, said that Mr Assad’s speech had made it abundantly clear that the regime had no intention of complying with the Arab League’s demands, and that the only way forward was to fully engage the international community in affording protection to the Syrian civilian population. According to the LCCs more than 30 people were killed by regime security forces on the day of Mr Assad’s speech, the majority of them in the north-eastern city of Deir al-Zor.
Fantasy reforms
Mr Assad devoted much of the latter part of his speech to describing the progress that he had made with political reforms. He ticked off the law passed to lift the state of emergency, a political parties law (which he said had now resulted in the first new parties being licensed), a new election law, a media law and the staging of local elections in early December. He said that he had intended to pass an anti-corruption law, but that it had been delayed to allow for more study and consultation. The next major step would be to hold a referendum in early March to approve a new constitution drawn up by a committee appointed last year. Two to three months after the constitution is approved, there would be a general election for a new parliament—the mandate of the previous parliament ran out in April; the assembly has since reconvened on a provisional basis. Mr Assad sought to present these reforms as advancing with significant popular participation, thereby branding the entire opposition movement as being beyond the political pale. His reform project would look more credible if he could co-opt some elements of the opposition to become involved, but there is so far little sign that the regime will manage to pull this off. Even Mr Mannaa of the NCB still professes that his group’s objective is to bring down the Assad regime.
Points of weakness
For all his bravado, Mr Assad’s regime continues to survive only because of its brutal use of force and thanks to some residual support that it enjoys from Russia, China, a handful of Arab states, Iran and Venezuela (which has recently provided some shipments of petroleum products). The documenting of incidents by opposition groups and the dissemination of videos to media organisations has acted as a constraint on the regime, meaning that it has not been possible to raze whole areas to the ground along the lines of the subjugation of Hama in 1982. However, the accumulation of evidence that the regime has being carrying out a systematic campaign of gross abuses of human rights means that there is no chance of the Assad regime returning to some semblance of business as usual. Sanctions can only become stiffer. Whether through incremental foreign intervention or an internal collapse, or a combination of the two, it is probable that the Assad regime will eventually be brought down.
(Translated by Max Weiss.) Samar Yazbek on the Syrian Revolt is a Syrian writer and journalist. In August 2011 she wrote in these pages about her experience of being detained after a demonstration. She is one of the Beirut 39 authors.
Comments (612)
norman said:
The Syrian army should be given the free hand to restore peace and security with any mean necessary, they should stop the wishy washy, move on reform and security at the same time. the people are tired of the chaos that is there.
January 18th, 2012, 9:31 am
annie said:
Heroism blooms all over Syria. Now Zabadani. Respect !
January 18th, 2012, 9:43 am
Revlon said:
State terrorism and anarchy.
FSA fighter shows marks of destruction inflicted upon a civilian residence by Assad, “heroic” army shelling!
17/01/2012
شبكة قامشلو : الزبداني حصري التجول برفقة الجيش الحر 17-1
January 18th, 2012, 9:46 am
Juergen said:
Norman
I know you are here from the beginning of the uprising. Can you tell me what is wishy washy about the crackdown of the uprising by the Army and the shabiha ? Do you mean that 6000+ deaths are wishy washy casulties? Is Hama with a modest calculation of 20.000 deaths( others say 40.000) more approriate or less wishy washy for you?
How can you and others talk of reform and reconsiliation with this murderous regime resisting to make any compromise or show humanity to its own people.
But now you add yourself to the choir i see here in Berlin who say that Bashar is too nice and soft, he should let Maher do the job.
January 18th, 2012, 9:49 am
Revlon said:
1. Dear norman:
((The Syrian army should be given the free hand to restore peace and security with any mean necessary, they should stop the wishy washy, move on reform and security at the same time. the people are tired of the chaos that is ther))
The regime have ideed mobilised, and fully used all of its loyal 3alawi units to quel or at least stop the spread of the revolution yet to no avail!
The only way they could make a difference is for you to get down on it, command their forces, and show your real brutal colours by out performing war criminals; the Assad brothers.
Every time the regime engaged less than 100% loyal units they ended up watching their forces disintigrate and vanish into their nemesis, the FSA!
The only weapon they have not used is their fixed wing bombers.
More than you, they dearly wish if they could use their bombers to wipe off all of civil existance in Syria barring Qirdaha and some regime supportive quarters in Homs, Damascus, and Aleppo.
The bad news is air bombing, even if it works which I do not believe it will, is their catch 21.
Air bombing shall make Russia’s stance in the UN tennuous and kicks off the cascade of measures for real international military intervention.
January 18th, 2012, 10:10 am
ann said:
Unrest ups robberies in Syria – 2012-01-18
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/indepth/2012-01/18/c_131367490.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 18 (Xinhua) — Apart from the violent and even bloody events prevailing in some parts of the country, Syria is also plagued by a dramatic surge in robberies and burglaries targeting shops, houses and cars.
Residents in the suburbs of the Syrian capital Damascus have been talking about looters roaming the streets sometimes with knives, sticks and other weapons. The thugs have exploited the chaos caused by months of protests to ransack shops, prompting shop owners to close early at night.
In the Damascus suburb of Harasta, the owner of a grocery store told Xinhua that “I am nowadays closing my shop at five o’clock owing to the rise in acts of looting shops in the street that I live by… The street is almost empty from people out of fear of looting and theft.”
Pharmacies, which usually remain open at night, are now closing early after repeated incidents of armed robbery.
Syria’s state-run newspapers and private news websites have reported several looting incidents across the country.
A pharmacist in the northern province of Aleppo was quoted by one of Syria’s official newspapers as saying that at least five pharmacies in the area were robbed in one month by masked men at night.
“Gangs usually pick the pharmacies whose windows do not overlook on the main streets,” said the pharmacist.
Due to the deteriorating security situation, some shop owners have installed surveillance cameras.
Power outages have also contributed in the increase of robberies.
“The government should at least lighten the streets at night to reduce robberies,” the owner of a clothes shop in Aleppo said.
Cases of carjacking have also increased in an unprecedented way. Residents at restive areas said looters smashed cars’ windshields in the early morning and stole their contents.
Taxi drivers are haunted by growing fears of being targeted by armed robbers.
“In the past, I didn’t mind to give a lift to passengers to anywhere they want in the country,” but this can not happen anymore “because I heard a lot of carjackings,” said Ali, a taxi driver.
Jewellers in downtown Damascus have almost emptied their windows as a precautionary measure. Some of them have gone further to entirely close their shops.
“I won’t open my shop till matters are settled down in the country,” said Johnny Bashour, who owns a gold shop in Damascus.
Street violence took a new form recently with marauding gangs sacking homes in a number of areas, including Damascus’ suburbs.
According to government reports, crimes in Damascus suburbs have increased by 400 percent since mid March.
Syrian pound has lost about 39 percent of its value against dollar since mid March, an economic expert told private al-Watan newspaper. With their own currency depreciating, Syrians have converted their savings into U.S. dollars or used the money to buy gold, which further raised the lust of thieves to rob houses.
“The government should tighten security measures and station more policemen in the country to prevent such acts,” said Laila Awad, a housewife.
The Syrian government has said that the turmoil in Syria is plotted by terrorists and foreign-backed armed gangs, and more than 2,000 army and security personnel have been killed during the 10-months-long unrest.
January 18th, 2012, 10:16 am
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Here is a very smart Arab , I say LEADERSHIP, which Syria is missing and has been, so as Iran, run by half men with Made in UK stamped.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/221741.html
January 18th, 2012, 10:20 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
Revlon your Syria is very tempting :loyal Alawi units! You and Alaaroor pigs will be building very secular nation.
January 18th, 2012, 10:24 am
Revlon said:
Video showing announcement of the formation of new Battalion in the Governorate of Dar3a.
This video shows a unit with new uniforms and with rifles reflecting improvement in logistics of the FSA and loosening grip of the regime on their area.
المركز الإعلامي السوري تشكيل كتائب المعتز بالله في درعا القطاع الجنوب
غربي 17 1 2012
January 18th, 2012, 10:30 am
ann said:
Russia opposes any foreign interventions in Syria – 2012-01-18
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/18/c_131367684.htm
MOSCOW, Jan. 18 (Xinhua) — Russia would not let the United Nations approve any foreign military intervention in Syria, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday.
“We could hardly be able to prevent that if someone intends to use force by all means,” Lavrov said an annual press conference, adding that “but they will obtain no authorization from the UN Security Council.”
“We will not support any sanctions because the unilateral sanctions are imposed (against Syria) without any consultations with Russia and China. Now they want us to ‘bless’ the inexpedient decisions made without us,” Lavrov said.
“Everything must be decided in the UN Security Council,” he said.
Lavrov said the Libyan scenario cannot be extended to similar conflicts in other countries. Russia also protests against provoking humanitarian disaster in Syria as a means of coercing the government to use force.
“Everybody knows the arms have been brought to Syrian extremists who use the protest movement to seize power,” Lavrov said.
Many countries, including Russia and China, have called for dialogues between the relevant sides to resolve the Syrian issue.
January 18th, 2012, 10:39 am
ann said:
China calls for cooperation with AL efforts in solving Syrian crisis – 2012-01-18
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2012-01/18/c_131367391.htm
BEIJING, Jan. 18 (Xinhua) — China supports resolving the Syrian crisis within the framework of the Arab League (AL) and has called for relevant sides to fully coordinate with the AL, a Foreign Ministry spokesman said Wednesday.
Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin made the remark during a press briefing when asked to comment on the Syrian situation.
China supports the constructive efforts made by the AL in promoting a political approach to the Syrian issue and hopes the AL observer mission will continue to fulfill its duties in Syria, Liu said, adding that China hopes all relevant parties will join hands to create conditions for the settlement of the Syrian crisis.
Liu said safety conditions have improved in several major areas of Syria since the AL observer mission began to perform its duties, although violence in Syria has not been completely erased.
In response to a question regarding China’s thoughts on the prospect of the involvement of the UN Security Council, Liu said the council’s involvement will be conducive to easing the situation in Syria and will help to safeguard the peace and stability of the Middle East at large.
Regarding a new Russian draft resolution to the Syrian issue forwarded to the UN Security Council, Liu said China appreciates the constructive efforts made by Russia to solve the Syrian crisis and is willing to continue to participate in consultations based on the Russian draft.
January 18th, 2012, 10:44 am
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Here is a nice loophole that holds the higher moral grounds. Rather than trying to send Arab troops directly to Syria, which will garner further support to Assad regime among Syrians and support his propaganda, it is more productive for the U.N. to pass resolution forcing Assad to make the political and economic reforms needed. The U.N. will proscribe those reforms that the regime must implement and set time limit on each step. Once a step or deadline is missed, the U.N. will have to mandate an all encompassing sanctions, including banning remittance from expats. Any State or non state actor violator of those sanctions can be targeted militarily by an Arab and or International coalition forces or faces equally harsh sanctions. The moral side is with the U.N. when its effort is reform centric rather than plain military and security one which appears to be a means for neo-colonialism and occupation.
January 18th, 2012, 10:47 am
majedkhaldoun said:
I suspect the regime will try hard to cause tremendous damage to Zabadani, however we should not forget that Bashar has a house(it used to belong to his father) in Halayya just half kilometer east from the Zabadani square, there are many pictures and furniture of Assad there.
If Bashar troops are humiliated there,it will be a great defeat for Bashar,that mentioned, it is a defeat for HA,too this area has stores of weapons stacked there for HA, along with numerous tunnels between Syria and Lebanon,the regime will use planes to bombard the area, casualities could exceed 10,000 christian living in Bloudan has lived peacefully with Musslems, Bloudan is the residence of many officials, M.Nassif has a house just at the curve at the begining of Bloudan and so is Al Ahmar.Makhloof has a villa there,Khaddam had a large house close to Abu Zad,.
I never believed that Bashar will pull his troops out of Zabadani, The FSA can cause a tremendous damage to Assad troops, and I expect more defections, destroying Zabadani will extremely sadd3en the Elite in Damascus, they have a lot of houses there. there is no way the regime can take full control of Zabadani and Madhaya,and Bloudan it will be a long battle and costly one,it will anger the whole world since there will be a bad massacre.
January 18th, 2012, 10:50 am
majedkhaldoun said:
I meant FSA can raid HA stores of weapons in Zabadani area,and arm themselves from it
January 18th, 2012, 11:07 am
aldendeshe said:
They were emptied out long time ago, the flow is in reverse now, HA is sending munitions back.
January 18th, 2012, 11:18 am
Juergen said:
new anthem new Syria!
January 18th, 2012, 11:25 am
norman said:
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نائب منشق يتوقع سقوط النظام في دمشق خلال 3 شهور
عبدالاله مجيد GMT 9:00:00 2012 الأربعاء 18 يناير
في وقت اعتبر عضو مجلس الشعب السوري المنسق، عماد غليون، أن الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد، سيسقط في غضون ثلاثة اشهر، بين استطلاع جديد للرأي ان نحو 55% من السوريين يؤيدون بقاء الأسد في السلطة ليس لشيء وانما بسبب خوفهم من المستقبل.
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توقع عضو مجلس الشعب السوري المنشق عماد غليون سقوط الرئيس بشار الأسد في غضون ثلاثة اشهر. وقال غليون الذي وصل إلى القاهرة يوم الأحد إن الوضع في مدينة حمص التي كان نائبها “أصعب مما يمكن أن يتصوره أحد”. ولكنه أضاف في حديث لصحيفة الديلي تلغراف أن الأزمة تدمر النظام من داخله.
وأكد غليون انه “من الناحية الاقتصادية لا يمكن للنظام أن يتحمل فترة أطول من شهرين وسياسيا لا يمكن أن يبقى أطول من شهرين. وتقديري أن النظام سينهار في غضون ثلاثة اشهر كحد أقصى”.
ويأتي حديث النائب غليون بعد أيام على توعد الأسد بالضرب بيد من حديد في التعامل مع خصومه الذين اتهمهم بالإرهاب.
ويعترف دبلوماسيون وحتى ناشطون معارضون بأن ميزان القوى في الداخل ما زال لصالح الأسد وان العسكريين الذين ينشقون وينتقلون إلى صفوف الجيش السوري الحر يشكلون نسبة ضئيلة من قوة النظام العسكرية.
ودعا الجيش السوري الحر يوم الاثنين إلى تدخل الأمم المتحدة بموجب الفصل السابع في ما يقول مراقبون انه دليل على قدراته المحدودة. ويجري الجيش السوري الحر الآن اتصالات منتظمة بالمجلس الوطني السوري لغرض التنسيق معه.
ولكن الواضح بالقدر نفسه أن قدرات النظام أيضا تتآكل ببطء. وتتبدى آثار الأزمة الاقتصادية بعد رحيل رؤوس الأموال بالاقتران مع العقوبات في انقطاع الكهرباء وارتفاع الأسعار.
في هذه الأثناء، تمكن المنتفضون في بعض المدن من السيطرة على مواقع والاحتفاظ بها طيلة أيام في مواجهة قصف الجيش وخاصة في حمص والزبداني التي تبعد عن دمشق نحو 30 كيلومترا.
كما تزداد عمليات المنتفضين جرأة في استهداف قوات النظام. ففي يوم الاثنين قُتل العميد محمد عبد الحميد العواد فيما قُتل ضابط وخمسة جنود في هجوم صاروخي استهدف حاجز تفتيش قرب دمشق، كما أفادت وكالة الأنباء السورية الرسمية “سانا”.
وقدمت روسيا التي رفضت كل إشكال التدخل في سوريا مشروع قرار في مجلس الأمن يدين أعمال العنف سواء كانت من جانب النظام أو المعارضة.
ويرى مراقبون أن الكثير يتوقف على ما ستقرره الجامعة العربية بعد الاستماع يوم السبت إلى تقرير بعثة المراقبين التي تنهي المرحلة الأولى من عملها هذا الأسبوع وما إذا كانت الجامعة العربية ستحيل الملف السوري إلى الأمم المتحدة أو تكتفي بتمديد مهمة المراقبين.
وكانت الدول الغربية أوضحت أنها حتى إذا تدخلت فهي لن تتخذ مثل هذه الخطوة إلا بدعم من الجامعة العربية والأمم المتحدة.
وكان ثمانية أشخاص قُتلوا يوم الثلاثاء في حمص التي استأنف النظام حملته ضدها في مؤشر إلى إصراره على الحل الأمني وفي الوقت نفسه استمرار المقاومة ضده.
وقال النائب المنشق عماد غليون في حديثه لصحيفة الديلي تلغراف أن الوضع في مدينة حمص أصعب مما يمكن أن يتصوره أي شخص. وأكد أن إطلاق النار مستمر ولا احد يستطيع حتى أن يغادر بيته لشراء احتياجاته واصفا الوضع بأنه “لا إنساني”.
وأوضح غليون انه قرر الانتقال إلى القاهرة لأنه لا يستطيع أن يمثل ناخبيه إلا من خارج سوريا. وقال “نحن لا نستطيع إن نعبر عن موقفنا في سوريا ولا نستطيع حتى أن نساعد المواطنين، وهذا هو دوري كما يُفترض كنائب في البرلمان”.
استطلاع يخالف الطابع السائد: أكثر من نصف السوريين يريدون الأسد
لكن شركة يوغوف سراج أجرت استطلاعًا حول سوريا بتكليف من منتدى قطر لدعم حرية التعبير المعروف باسم “حوارات الدوحة”. وأظهرت نتائج الاستطلاع الذي نشره المنتدى على موقعه أن غالبية العرب يؤيدون رحيل الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد بعد حملة البطش التي شنها ضد المحتجين، ولكن نسبة أقل من السوريين يؤيدون إحداث تغيير فوري في القيادة.
وتبين نتائج الاستطلاع أن 55 في المئة من السوريين لا يريدون أن يستقيل الأسد. وأحد الأسباب الرئيسية التي يسوقها من يريدون بقاء الأسد في السلطة هو الخوف على مستقبل البلد.
ولكن هذا المستوى من التأييد لا ينعكس في بلدان المنطقة الأخرى حيث قال 81 في المئة من العرب أنهم يريدون تنحي الأسد. ويعتقد هؤلاء أن سوريا ستكون في وضع أفضل إذا جرت انتخابات ديمقراطية بإشراف حكومة انتقالية.
وتؤكد نتائج الاستطلاع ما توصل إليه المشاركون في ندوة نظمها المنتدى القطري في تشرين الثاني/نوفمبر الماضي حيث دعا 91 في المئة من جمهور الحاضرين إلى استقالة الأسد.
وتشير نتائج الاستطلاع إلى أن من المتوقع أن تتحسن علاقات سوريا مع تركيا ولبنان والولايات المتحدة إذا استقال الرئيس الأسد ولكنها ستتردى مع إيران وإسرائيل.
وأُجري الاستطلاع الذي شارك فيه أكثر من 1000 شخص في العالم العربي خلال الفترة الواقعة بين 14 و19 كانون الأول/ديسمبر الماضي.
ومرت نتائج الاستطلاع دون أن تحظى باهتمام من وسائل الإعلام رغم نشرها على موقع “حوارات الدوحة” منذ 2 كانون الثاني/يناير هذا العام.
http://www.elaph.com/Web/news/2012/1/710180.html
إغلاق النافذة
January 18th, 2012, 11:27 am
Revlon said:
Lama Al Atasi, director of the press office of the FSA clarifies some issues relating to the nature of her office function, FSA-SNC relations and FSA to newly announced military council.
– Function of the FSA press office is to disseminate announcements of the FSA
– The office has no direct contacts with either France or any other foreign countries. FSA relegates the political responsibilities to SNC.
– Announcement of the appointment of commander of Damascus area comes in the context of ongoing structuring of the FSA; an effort at partial decentralization due to difficulties in timely communication.
– No news yet on the SNC-FSA liaison office
– Who is leading the other SNC or the FSA?
FSA and leader R Asaad have no political aspirations
FSA leadership is under the command of the ground movement and its political agenda; SNC remains the political voice of FSA as long as their policies comply with the demands and needs of the ground movement.
The FSA knows and the SNC acknowledges the presence of internal governance problems that preclude from streamlining their position with the ground movement.
SNC stands the risk of being bypassed should they fail to comply with the ground revolution.
– As per verbal communication with Colonel Al Asaad: The newly announced Higher Military Council is an institution within the FSA.
It is commanded by Colonel R Al Asaad.
It aim is to transform the disparate defected units into an army institution with defined hierarchy.
– On the AL observers and new efforts at training them: There is an outstanding decision for international intervention in Syria. It is being delayed pending the emergence of a clear, unified political stand from the ground movement and its leadership.
16/01/2012
لمى الأتاسي المسؤولة الإعلامية للجيش السوري الحر
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08C_w_M2rPw&feature=related
Loaded by DEVDAS20009 on Jan 16, 2012
على فرانس 24 العربية لمى الأتاسي المسؤولة الإعلامية في مكتب الجيس السوري الحر في باريس تتحدث عن تعيين قائد عسكري في منطقة دمشق بهدف تنظيم العمل العسكري ولا تخفي انزعاج قيادة الجيش السوري الحر من آداء المجلس الوطني السوري
على فرانس 24 العربية مهع حكيم بالطيفة
January 18th, 2012, 11:38 am
Observer said:
The comment by Norman speaks volumes about the utter disregard and I would say almost open racism when it comes to the average Syrian. For him these are “germs” that should be treated with utter ruthlessness. The tone and content of the comment argue that this “other” can only be dealt with with force, crushing the uprising.
Morevoer, the reforms if they are true and radical and genuine will spell the end of the regime as the removal of one of the cards from the house of cards that the father built will lead to the collapse of the edifice. We are seeing this collapse as the actions of various security brances can be different and in different locales.
This hatred that Norman and JAD have is truly mind boggling.
Let me remind him that
1. these are fellow Syrians
2. The Syrian army cannot use large formations for when they do so many defect simply because they refuse to kill and destroy civilians
3. The security house of cards built by the late father was meant to specifically prevent any coordination of action lest a coup d’etat happens. Therefore there may be different approaches depending on who is doing what
4. The leaders of the security services have acted in typical fiefdom mentality with the governor of Deraa for example showing evidence that he acted without consent from the President and some do not even listen to the President
5. The inner family circle is having difficulty keeping loyalty of the rest of the regime in place.
6. There is so much corruption that the army troops sell their weapons and ammunition to the highest bidder and there is money flowing in to arm and train the defectors.
January 18th, 2012, 11:45 am
Observer said:
This is from Cham Press today.
Surely some on this blog will get some nausea that the pro regime organ is publishing unwanted news
دمشق ..
في تعميم جديد لرئاسة مجلس الوزراء يحمل طابع السرية طلبت فيه من جميع الوزارات ضرورة ترشيد الإنفاق لاسيما فيما يتعلق بالمكافآت ونفقات النقل والانتقال والبنزين والمازوت وغيرها من النفقات.
وفيما يخص الإنفاق الاستثماري طلبت رئاسة الوزراء بأن يتم التركيز خلال المرحلة الراهنة على المشاريع ذات الأولوية والتي هي قيد الانتهاء.
كما طالبت جميع الوزارات وفقاً لصحيفة الوطن بعدم البدء بتنفيذ أي مشروع أو أي عمل مادي جديد ضمن الموازنة الاستثمارية أو المستقلة لعام 2012 سواء كان المشروع للوزارة أو لأي جهة أخرى تابعة لها أياً كانت طبيعة هذا العمل وضمن زمر المشاريع كافة.
مع الإشارة إلى أن زمر المشاريع الخاصة بالخطة الاستثمارية وكما هو معروف تتضمن مشاريع الاستبدال والتجديد والمشاريع المباشر بها من سنة أو أكثر إضافة إلى المشاريع الجديدة.
شام برس
الأربعاء 18-01-2012
This it titled directives to tighten your belts.
Surely we are seeing glorious success in this regime’s economic great achievements.
Cheers, the germs are coming
January 18th, 2012, 11:57 am
Revlon said:
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
بيان صادر عن الجيش السوري الحر
Announcement by FSA
كتيبة حمزة بن عبد المطلب – منطقة الزبداني
HBAM Battalion-Zabadani
18/01/2012
http://www.freesyrianarmy1.com/ar/node/204
بعد انقضاء المهلة التي حددتها كتيبة حمزة بن عبد المطلب لقوات الاحتلال الأسدي للانسحاب من منطقة الزبداني بدأنا بتنفيذ التهديدات المذكورة في البيان المتعلق حيث تم تعطيل أحد أبراج سيريتل التابعة لللص رامي مخلوف في منطقة بلودان .
Once the ultimatum to Assad army was over, without withdrawing their forces from Zabadani region our forces executed their threat by disabling a Syriatel telecommunication tower in Bludan.
هذا وتؤكد كتيبة حمزة بن عبد المطلب في منطقة الزبداني أنها ستستمر باستهداف الأهـداف الاستراتيجية والحساسة التابعة للنظام وأزلامه والتي تصيبه في مقتل وذلك بعد التشاور مع أخوتنا المختصين في مكتب التخطيط الاستراتيجي
Regime strategic posts in Zabadani shall continue to be targeted, in consultatyion with the planning and strategy office of the FSA.
كما تعلن الكتيبة أنها قامت في وقت سابق بتدمير ثلاث دبابات ومدرعتين “بي ام بي” وحاملة جند “زيل” إضافة إلى جيب مما أسفر عن مقتل مالايقل عن ٣٥ عنصر من قوات الاحتلال. كما نفذت عناصر الكتيبة عملية نوعية من خلال ضرب سرية إشارة في سرغايا مما أسفر عن انشقاق خمسة عناصر وقتل ضابط وتقييد البقية ، واغتنمت الكتيبة في هذه العملية عدد معتبر من الأسلحة والرشاشات ((رشاشا دوشكا 12.5، صندوق قنابل 11، صندوق ذخيرة 17، سيارتين جمرك وسيارة هجانة ، 25رشاش ))
Other combat operations included the destruction of 3 tanks, 2 armored vehicles, am personnel carrier, and killing of 35 of Assad forces.
Another operation lead to killing of an officer and five soldiers and arrest of the rest of the unit and confiscating their amo, weapons and vehicles.
January 18th, 2012, 12:02 pm
Tara said:
The regime will be angering lots of Damascene by the way it is handling Zanadani. Many upper class families in Damascus have summer houses in that area and it is becoming up close and personal to them. The regime is losing lots of upper class support who may decide to start financing the revolution.
January 18th, 2012, 12:10 pm
Revlon said:
Assad army completes withdrawal from Zabadani and jubilant crowds pour onto the streets!
مظاهرة أبطال الزبداني 18 1 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nFBSXgMqx_A
Uploaded by abokhaled1920 on Jan 18, 2012
أبطال الزبداني بعد الانسحاب الكامل لكتائب الجيش الأسدي 18 1 2012
مظاهرة أبطال الزبداني 18 1 2012
about an hour ago
January 18th, 2012, 12:14 pm
norman said:
Anybody who lift arms against the Syrian army should be treated as they are terrorists, The time for the Syrian army to stand on the side line leaving a Shia family losing her male members for being living in the AL Baiada in Homs and pushing the rest of the family out of the neighbourhood, that should not be allowed and the Syrian army should surround these areas give an ultimatum for surrender and ask the civilians to leave then go from house to house and eliminate all residents, Syria is for all Syrians and anybody that does not submit to the Syrian army is not Syrian in my book, as the Syrian army did in Lebanon it needs to do in Syria, restore peace at any cost.
January 18th, 2012, 12:19 pm
jad said:
Observer
“This hatred that (…) JAD have is truly mind boggling.”
What hatred I have you piece of stinky shit!!
What’s making this comment ultra shitty is that it’s coming from a scum of the scums like ‘Observer’ who is calling for splitting Syria into 5 countries according to sects and ethnicity, yet his family is the first to flee leaving average poor Syrians to deal with all the misery he is calling for…your care for Syria is very convincing, freak!
January 18th, 2012, 12:29 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
The Zionist Revlon is calling The Syrian Army forces :Occupation forces!
January 18th, 2012, 12:32 pm
Revlon said:
اتحاد تنسيقيات الثورة السورية | Syrian Revolution Coordinators Union
دمشق المحتلة :حي المهاجرين : خرجت اليوم مظاهرة في منطقة العفيف في حارة السكة على بعد أمتار من القصر الجمهوري عند الساعة السادسة مساء، نادت بالحرية والنصرة للزبداني والمناطق المنكوبة والجيش الحر. نؤكد أن مكان المظاهرة لا يبعد عن السفارة الفرنسية كثيراً وسنوافيكم بالفيديو قريبا بإذن الله
Occupied Damascus, AlMhajreen Neighbourhood:
A protest took place in jaddet AlAfif, meters away from the presidential palace around 6:PM tonight.
Video later!
18/01/2012
http://www.facebook.com/monasiqoon
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January 18th, 2012, 12:40 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
It seems that there are conflicting reports about the regime troops in Zabadani area, Joshua said the troops did not withdraw, Revlon showed video where the troops withdrew completely, It would be better that the troops withdraw so the FSA and Zabadani people will not attack HA weapons caches.
Norman
It looks that after elation there is depression,it is best to wait so no one is incriminated for being racist,taking the wrong side of this conflict may turn very costly,no one is safe while he has family there.
January 18th, 2012, 12:40 pm
jad said:
Especially to Observer:
الافتتاحية : خراي عليكو … وعلى هيك ثورات
الافتتاحية
يكتبها اليوم : اسامة فوزي
خراي عليكو … وعلى هيك ثورات
انا رجل ثورجي … منذ ان ولدتني امي وحتى بداية ثورات الربيع العربي قبل كم شي شهر .. حيث قررت – بعدها – ان انفض يدي من الثورات العربية وان انضم الى ( الفلول ) وارجو من اجهزة المخابرات العربية ( والامريكية ) التي صنفتني من قبل كثورجي خطير ان تقوم بتحديث ملفاتها عني وان تذكر في اخر السطر اني ( بطلت ) ثورة … ( التوبة ) .. ولم اعد اتعاطاها تماما مثل عادة ( شرب السجاير ) التي بطلتها منذ خمسة عشرا عاما بعد ان اكتشفت ان شرب السجاير مضر بالصحة تماما كما تذكر وزارات الصحة العربية في اعلاناتها المنشورة على علب السجائر التي يمتلك معظم اسهم شركات صنع وبيع السجائر في الدول العربية .. وزراء الصحة انفسهم
انا رجل ( خشيت ) على الستين اي انني من جيل الخمسينات والستينات … ونحن جيل نشأ وترعرع على ثورات من نوع اخر غير الذي نشهده اليوم … ثورات مثل ثورة تشي غيفارا .. او ثورة الخميني … او ثورة جمال عبد الناصر … التي – كلها – استلهمت شعاراتها من الثورة الامريكية التي قادها جورج واشنطون ووضع وثيقتها توماس جيفرسون … وصولا الى الثورة الروسية التي انجبت دولة عظمى اسمها الاتحاد السوفيتي سرعان ما باعها غورباتشوف بثلاثة قروش قبل ان يهرب الى المانيا التي يعيش فيها الان … على الشحادة وتبرعات الاجاويد
ثورات تنبع من الشعب وتخلق منظومة متكاملة اجتماعية واقتصادية وسياسية نابعة من قيم العدالة والمساواة والحرية وتوزيع الثروة … وثورات الربيع العربي كلها – للاسف – ليس فيها اي شيء من هذا
كيف يراد لي ان ابارك ثورة وضع فلسفتها الصهيوني برنارد ليفي الذي ظهر مثلا في غرفة العمليات العسكرية في طرابلس جنبا الى جنب مع قائد الثورة العسكري عبد الفتاح يونس الذي كان الى ما قبل شهر من ثورته يعتقل الناس ويعدمهم باعتباره وزير داخلية معمر القذافي
ما رأيكم لو ان حبيب العادلي وزير داخلية مبارك هو الذي قام بالثورة … هل كنتم ستؤمنون بنقاء سريرتها
كيف يمكن ان ( اهضم ) ثورة عرابها شيخ قطر … ولسانها الاعلامي الناطق فضائية الاميرة الجوهرة وابنها الامير عزوزي … وذراعها العسكري الضارب طائرات الناتو … ومفتيها مغتصب القاصرات وصاحب فتاوى المص واللحس المخبر السابق يوسف القرضاوي
كيف يمكن ان اقتنع بثورة لم تجد بين ملايين التونسيين غير كومبارس من كومبارسات برنامج فيصل القاسم حتى تعينه رئيسا للجمهورية …كومبارس غير محترم كل تاريخه النضالي و ( الثورجي ) مختصر بتمسحه على اعتاب شيوخ النفط وكل ما ابدعه من كتب ثورجية ( مسروقة ) تجده في مزابل بسطات سور الازبكية
يا جماعة الخير
ثورة 23 يوليو افرزت ( الف مصنع ) في اقل من خمس سنوات وبنت السد العالي وأممت قناة السويس ووزعت الاراضي على الفلاحين وعلمت الملايين ( ببلاش ) من الاول الابتدائي وحتى الجامعة … ثورة كانت خلالها شوارع مصر انظف من الطبق الصيني وليس فيها تلال و اهرامات من الزبالة كما هو الحال الان … وكانت كل العائلات المصرية على مختلف مستوياتها الاقتصادية تأكل اللحمة يوميا وتتفسح في الاسكندرية وراس البر بأرش ساغ … ثورة جعلت من المواطن المصري سيد العرب وكانت الامة العربية من محيطها الى خليجها تنتظر خطابات عبد الناصر على احر من الجمر ولا تدير مؤشر المذياع او التلفزيون على اذاعة نانسي عجرم كلما اعلن ان سيادة الرئيس سيلقي خطابا كما حدث ويحدث هذه الايام
ثورة انجبت لنا عمالقة في الادب والفن والرياضة والصحافة والسياسة … ثورة كان مذيع واحد من مذيعي مصر من طراز محمد عروق او احمد حمزة او صلاح عويس ( وكان صديقي ) او عبد الوهاب قتاية ( وهو صديقي ايضا ) او امال فهمي او جلال معوض او احمد فراج يعادل مدرسة اعلامية بكاملها … وليس ثورة تنجب لنا معلقا سياسيا يظهر يوميا على شاشة التلفزيون لينصب الفاعل ويرفع المفعول … ثورة يصبح نجمها التلفزيوني مهرج شبه امي اسمه توفيق عكاشة … وعرابها (وحده ) مثل هالة سرحان التي اصبح ثلاثة من صبيانها من مرشحي الرئاسة في مصر واحدهم يتقاضى مليون جنيه شهريا كمرتب لانه يظهر على شاشة فضائية سعودية ربع ساعة يوميا
ثورة كان مطربها عبد الحليم حافظ وايقونتها ام كلثوم وليس المكوجي الامي شعبان بتاع باحب عمرو موسى والاميرة هند الفاسي … وايههههههههههه
ثورة كان نبض شعبها الثنائي امام ونجم .. الذي – للاسف – انجب ( نوارة ) التي لا زال صوتها يطن في رؤوسنا وهي تصرخ عبر الهاتف .. شكرا قطر … شكرا محطة الجزيرة .. لولولولولولولو يش
ثورة ترفع علم الامة العربية في مظاهراتها في قلب ميدان التحرير.. وليس العلم السعودي
ذا بوطم لاين
ثورات الربيع العربي مشكوك في امرها … انها ابنة سفاح .. شارك في تلقيحها اكثر من اب وكانت الرحم التي حضنتها منظومة دولية تشكلت من اسرائيل وفرنسا وجماعة الاخوان وتنظيم القاعدة وباركها اخونا اوباما بتمويل نفطي طاش على سطح برميله شيخ قطر
هل عرفتم الان لماذا عنونت مقالي الذي حرصت – على غير عادتي – ان يكون مؤدبا جدا … خراي عليكو وعلى هيك ثورات
http://74.208.163.97/atn/news_display.cfm?Action&Preview=No&nid=10300
January 18th, 2012, 12:42 pm
Revlon said:
Aleppo quiet?
Not quite!
University of Aleppo students March in protest calling for the execution of “The President”
حلب – مظاهرة كلية الاداب مع الحرائر دقة عالية 18-1-2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fqDKYAMsLMI
Uploaded by streikerbin on Jan 18, 2012
مظاهرة راااائعة للحرائر مع الاحرار
انطلقت امام كلية الاداب واتجهت نحو الفرقان
اتسمت بزلاغيط الحرائر والهتاف باعدام الرئيس
جامعة حلب – جامعة الحرية
January 18th, 2012, 12:45 pm
Juergen said:
Norman
Thank you for making it clear. I do not care for nationalities nor religion, but how on earth can someone with intelligence and the christian faith support masskillings by an tyranns army? I remember well one encounter I had last year in Hama. I was enjoying the local halawat bi jibn and looked over the noorias toward the Cham Hotel. The shopowner said to me that 2 brothers of him got killed in 1982. they never found them, they have no grave, and where is now the Cham Hotel they pilled up the dead bodies in mass graves he said to me. I can never go inside this hotel he told me.
See the language you use is the same all despotes, all racist regimes will use. First you talk of them as foreign to your view, your way of life. Then you label them, Zinist, Terrorist and at the end you mark them as rats or dogs as the ultimate dehumanization. I guess it must be an ease on ones mind to kill just animals.
January 18th, 2012, 12:47 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Dear Tara,
Many wealthy families have started to establish contacts with the opposition. However it is a shame that many still look out for the almighty dollar over their country (which is what many are doing). I know that some factory owners have paid elements on both sides so as to keep their factories safe.
January 18th, 2012, 12:50 pm
Juergen said:
SOD
do you know how far is Slunfeh from Zabadani?
January 18th, 2012, 12:52 pm
jad said:
This news claims that Riad Alas’ad is under strict Turkish surveillance which enforce JL comment about the terrorists armed militia being not under one leadership and that every terrorist attack done by them is not organized, therefore, they are not an army they are simply bunch of armed terrorist militias:
رياض الأسعد يعيش في الإقامة الجبرية في ظل تضييق تركي
اعرب أحمد جمعة أحد أكثر المقربين الى ما يسمى الجيش السوري الحر لصحيفة السياسة عن اعتقاده بأن رياض الأسعد “يواجه مضايقات قوية من الحكومة التركية التي تحاول أن تطلع على تحركاته وعملياته داخل سورية قبل وقوعها وعلى كامل ستراتيجيته العسكرية الموضوعة لدعم الثورة”, مؤكداً ان “الأسعد قد يكون يعيش في تركيا منذ اسابيع في شبه اقامة جبرية فيما معاونوه الاساسيون وضعوا في الظل ومنعوا من الحراك الاعلامي مع احاطة رئيس الوزراء التركي رجب الطيب اردوغان بالعميد المنشق مصطفى الشيخ مع مجموعة انتقلت معه من دمشق الى تركيا, بأسباب الدعم لتشكيل “المجلس العسكري الأعلى” الذي سيتعاون مع “الجيش السوري الحر” كما يزعم مرافقو العميد الشيخ الذي يبدو أنه ينسق خارج الاضواء مع المجلس الوطني السوري ورئيسه برهان غليون”.
الخبر برس : الإخبارية اللبنانية
January 18th, 2012, 12:54 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
@REVLON
Who are Lamma Atassi father and uncles, can you share that with us all!! Since you are well connected to the 3 letters fronts.
January 18th, 2012, 12:58 pm
Revlon said:
Syrian Independance Flag is put up at the highway entrance to Al Bab city!
Assad grip on peripheral territories is loosening by the day!
Assad forces are in a strategic retreat!
Uploaded by AlbabCityTansiq on Jan 18, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rWrKjHkIQhg
الباب::رفع علم الاستقلال على مدخل المدينة يوم الأربعاء الساعة 11 ظهرآ 18\1\2012
January 18th, 2012, 12:58 pm
norman said:
Majed,
I agree , the opposition are more dangerous in days like these, so i should probably shut up, but , then i am from Hama and we do not shut up.
Juergen ,
No it is easier to kill and shoot back at somebody who is shooting at me than killing a dog or a cat.
January 18th, 2012, 1:00 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: OBSERVER
RE: “…you piece of stinky shit!!…”
Well done, dude. You really got under Jaddie’s skin. That pathetic little Besho buttlicker rarely leaves his cut-and-paste perch to editorialize. You got him to do it. I suggest you do it again. He’s so illiterate when he gets pissed. And it’s so amusing to watch him trying to insult in English…
January 18th, 2012, 1:00 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Juergen,
A lot of people claim to be one thing, when in reality they are not. I recently saw a video on youtube about a preacher talking about how he hates religion but loves Jesus, it is a great watch and his message is truly uplifting no matter what your faith is.
I hope you enjoy it.
January 18th, 2012, 1:01 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
This junta is dragging Syria into a mayhem and disintegration, style Afghanistan. Bashar said it clearly in one of his meaningless speeches.
Syria will disintegrate into small territories, controlled by warlords. There will be a Homsi worlord, Latakian warlord, Hamwi warlord, Kamishlian warlord etc.
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January 18th, 2012, 1:06 pm
Revlon said:
35. Dear Syrian Nationalist Party:
((@REVLON
Who are Lamma Atassi father and uncles, can you share that with us all!! Since you are well connected to the 3 letters fronts))
Sorry! I know neither the lady nor her father or uncles.
Being so ubiquitous, the chances are that her family might just be your neighbour in Homs.
Cheers!
January 18th, 2012, 1:09 pm
jad said:
Russia won’t support any resolution that calls for any ‘military action’ while the western countries insist of adding the ‘military action’ in, yet every European leader lies about this and deny that they want to attack Syria…sure the colonial powers are very ‘honest’ and ‘humane’ in everything they do even when the kill, but negotiation and peace and talk is not allowed in the lands of the ‘coloured’!
لافروف: أي هجوم عسكري على سورية لن تتم المصادقة عليه من قبل مجلس الأمن
“الدول الغربية تصر إزالة عبارة عدم استخدام القوة من مشروع القرار الروسي, ولا نعتبر العقوبات الأحادية تجاه سورية شرعية”
أعلن وزير الخارجية الروسي سيرغي لافروف يوم الأربعاء إن دول الغرب تصرّ على إزالة عبارة عدم استخدام القوة من مشروع القرار المقدم للأمم المتحدة بشأن سورية, مشيرا إلى أن أي هجوم عسكري عليها لن تتم المصادقة عليه من قبل مجلس الأمن, فيما لفت إلى أن موسكو لا تعتبر أية عقوبات أحادية الجانب من قبل دول الغرب على سوريا “شرعية”.
وقال لافروف في مؤتمره الصحفي السنوي, نقلته وسائل اعلامية عدة. إن “الدول الغربية تصر بقوة على إزالة عبارة من مشروع القرار بأن لا شيء يبرر استخدام القوة ضد سوريا”، مضيفاً أن “نهج زملائنا الغربيين هو أحادي الجانب”.
وكانت الدول الأعضاء في مجلس الأمن بدأت يوم الثلاثاء على مستوى الخبراء مناقشة النسخة الجديدة من مشروع قرار اقترحته روسيا ووزعته يوم الاثنين.
وقدمت روسيا, التي تترأس مجلس الأمن الدولي, في منتصف الشهر الماضي مشروع قرار للمجلس يدين “العنف “من قبل جميع الأطراف ، ويحذر من تدهور متزايد للأوضاع.
وأشار وزير الخارجية الروسي إلى أنه “في حال قررت إحدى الدول مهاجمة سوريا عسكرياً، فإن روسيا لن تقدر على منعها لكن هذا الهجوم “لن تتم المصادقة عليه من قبل الأمم المتحدة ما يترك المهاجمين مسؤولين عن أفعالهم”.
وتسعى الدول الغربية وعلى رأسها الولايات المتحدة إلى إصدار قرار يدين السلطات السورية فيما يخص الأحداث التي تشهدها سورية منذ اشهر, إلا أن هذه المحاولات اصطدمت بمعارضة كل من روسيا والصين.
وتابع لافروف أن “الصين والدول الأخرى في مجموعة “بريكس” تدعم مشروع القرار الروسي الخاص بسوريا المعروض على مجلس الأمن الدولي، وتدعم بكين موقف موسكو بأن أي قرار مدعوم من الأمم المتحدة بشأن سوريا لا يمكن أن يتضمن عبارات تسمح باستخدام القوة ضد دمشق”.
ولفت الوزير الروسي إلى أن “زملاءنا في الغرب يناقشون إمكانية فرض حظر جوي فوق سوريا”، مضيفاً أنه “يفترض أن الموضوع يناقش أيضاً من قبل حلف شمال الأطلسي (الناتو)”.
وعبّر عن شكه بشأن قيمة هذا الإجراء، كونه “على عكس السيناريو الليبي فإن سوريا لم تستخدم القوات الجوية ضد المدنيين السلميين”, موضحا إن “العقوبات الأحادية الجانب هي دائماً انتقاص للجهود الجماعية بشأن سوريا.. وإن أراد أحد استخدام مجلس الأمن، فمن الضروري مناقشة كل شيء هناك، إن في ما يتعلق بالحاجة لعقوبات أم لا.. أو أية طرق ينبغي استخدامها بعيداً عن العقوبات”.
وأعرب لافروف عن استعداد بلاده لاستضافة جميع ممثلي القوى السياسية السورية لإطلاق عملية الحوار، مبينا إن “روسيا تدعو جميع الأطراف في سوريا إلى بدء الحوار”.
ودعا وزير الخارجية الروسية إلى وقف العنف فوراً في سوريا “أيا كان مصدره”، لافتاً إلى أن بلاده “لا تخرق القوانين الدولية في مجال التعاون العسكري التقني مع دمشق”، وأن سلاحاً يرسل إلى المسلحين والمتطرفين في سوريا هو أمر مرفوض لأنه يؤدي لتصعيد العنف”.
وتصاعدت الضغوط الدولية على سورية, حيث فرضت عددا من الدول الغربية وعلى رأسها الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية مؤخرا عقوبات على البلاد, شملت المجالات النفطية والاقتصادية, فضلا عن عقوبات على شخصيات ومسؤولين كبار وشركات بسبب ما اسموه عمليات “القمع والعنف” التي تمارسها السلطات السورية بحق المدنيين في البلاد.
وتعد روسيا من أكثر الدول الداعمة للمواقف السورية ,رافضة أي تدخل خارجي في شؤون سورية , مشددة في أكثر مناسبة على أهمية إجراء حوار بين المعارضة والسلطة من اجل إنهاء الأزمة, كما أسقطت مؤخرا مشروع قرار أوروبي مدعوم من قبل الولايات المتحدة قدم إلى مجلس الأمن يدين “العنف” في سورية باستخدام حق النقض الفيتو.
وتشهد عدة مدن سورية، منذ بدء حركة الاحتجاجات في منتصف آذار الماضي، أعمال عنف أودت بحياة الكثيرين من مدنيين ورجال أمن وجيش، تقول السلطات إنهم قضوا بنيران “جماعات مسلحة”، فيما تتهم منظمات حقوقية وناشطين السلطات بارتكاب أعمال عنف لـ “قمع المتظاهرين.
وتنحي السلطات السورية باللائمة على “مجموعات إرهابية مسلحة”، وتقول إنها تقف وراء أحداث عنف راح ضحيتها أكثر من 2000 من رجال الأمن والعسكريين، فيما تشير إحصائيات للأمم المتحدة, تشكك القيادة السورية في صحتها, إلى سقوط 5000 منذ بدء الأحداث، وتتهم منظمات حقوقية وناشطون السلطات باستخدام العنف لـ “قمع المتظاهرين.
http://syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=142855
January 18th, 2012, 1:14 pm
jad said:
Homs the endless tragedy:
حمص.. يوميات الخوف والمعاناة تقرير روسيا اليوم 17_1_2012
http://youtu.be/6GmKlqMjeLc
January 18th, 2012, 1:25 pm
Revlon said:
Young man Omar Zarour was shot and killed by Assad sniper in his own neighbourhood.
AlBayadah, Occupied Homs City, today.
AlFatiha upon his soul,
May God bless his family and fiancee with solace and empower them with fortitude.
حمص المحتلة البياضة الشهيد عمر بدوي زعرور 18 1 2012
January 18th, 2012, 1:25 pm
jad said:
Most Syrians back President Assad, but you’d never know from western media
Assad’s popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west’s propaganda war
Suppose a respectable opinion poll found that most Syrians are in favour of Bashar al-Assad remaining as president, would that not be major news? Especially as the finding would go against the dominant narrative about the Syrian crisis, and the media considers the unexpected more newsworthy than the obvious.
Alas, not in every case. When coverage of an unfolding drama ceases to be fair and turns into a propaganda weapon, inconvenient facts get suppressed. So it is with the results of a recent YouGov Siraj poll on Syria commissioned by The Doha Debates, funded by the Qatar Foundation. Qatar’s royal family has taken one of the most hawkish lines against Assad – the emir has just called for Arab troops to intervene – so it was good that The Doha Debates published the poll on its website. The pity is that it was ignored by almost all media outlets in every western country whose government has called for Assad to go.
The key finding was that while most Arabs outside Syria feel the president should resign, attitudes in the country are different. Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war – a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria’s borders. What is less good news for the Assad regime is that the poll also found that half the Syrians who accept him staying in power believe he must usher in free elections in the near future. Assad claims he is about to do that, a point he has repeated in his latest speeches. But it is vital that he publishes the election law as soon as possible, permits political parties and makes a commitment to allow independent monitors to watch the poll.
Biased media coverage also continues to distort the Arab League’s observer mission in Syria. When the league endorsed a no-fly zone in Libya last spring, there was high praise in the west for its action. Its decision to mediate in Syria was less welcome to western governments, and to high-profile Syrian opposition groups, who increasingly support a military rather than a political solution. So the league’s move was promptly called into doubt by western leaders, and most western media echoed the line. Attacks were launched on the credentials of the mission’s Sudanese chairman. Criticisms of the mission’s performance by one of its 165 members were headlined. Demands were made that the mission pull out in favour of UN intervention.
The critics presumably feared that the Arab observers would report that armed violence is no longer confined to the regime’s forces, and the image of peaceful protests brutally suppressed by army and police is false. Homs and a few other Syrian cities are becoming like Beirut in the 1980s or Sarajevo in the 1990s, with battles between militias raging across sectarian and ethnic fault lines.
As for foreign military intervention, it has already started. It is not following the Libyan pattern since Russia and China are furious at the west’s deception in the security council last year. They will not accept a new United Nations resolution that allows any use of force. The model is an older one, going back to the era of the cold war, before “humanitarian intervention” and the “responsibility to protect” were developed and often misused. Remember Ronald Reagan’s support for the Contras, whom he armed and trained to try to topple Nicaragua’s Sandinistas from bases in Honduras? For Honduras read Turkey, the safe haven where the so-called Free Syrian Army has set up.
Here too western media silence is dramatic. No reporters have followed up on a significant recent article by Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer who now writes for the American Conservative – a magazine that criticises the American military-industrial complex from a non-neocon position on the lines of Ron Paul, who came second in last week’s New Hampshire Republican primary. Giraldi states that Turkey, a Nato member, has become Washington’s proxy and that unmarked Nato warplanes have been arriving at Iskenderum, near the Syrian border, delivering Libyan volunteers and weapons seized from the late Muammar Gaddafi’s arsenal. “French and British special forces trainers are on the ground,” he writes, “assisting the Syrian rebels, while the CIA and US Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause, enabling the fighters to avoid concentrations of Syrian soldiers …”
As the danger of full-scale war increases, Arab League foreign ministers are preparing to meet in Cairo this weekend to discuss the future of their Syrian mission. No doubt there will be western media reports highlighting remarks by those ministers who feel the mission has “lost credibility”, “been duped by the regime” or “failed to stop the violence”. Counter-arguments will be played down or suppressed.
In spite of the provocations from all sides the league should stand its ground. Its mission in Syria has seen peaceful demonstrations both for and against the regime. It has witnessed, and in some cases suffered from, violence by opposing forces. But it has not yet had enough time or a large enough team to talk to a comprehensive range of Syrian actors and then come up with a clear set of recommendations. Above all, it has not even started to fulfil that part of its mandate requiring it to help produce a dialogue between the regime and its critics. The mission needs to stay in Syria and not be bullied out.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda?fb=optOut
January 18th, 2012, 1:28 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Juergen
Slunfeh is close to Latakia,Zabadani is close to Damascus,they are too far.
there was recent interview with Khddam he said one source close to Bashar, that Bashar is going to resign in few days,Maher will take over.I do not trust Khaddam.
Observer
someone has his prions stirred up
January 18th, 2012, 1:33 pm
Equus said:
Does really the US care about civil war or spreading sectarian violence in the region?
It’s been going on since the beginning of the war in Iraq. What did they actually do to stop it? Nothing.
Obviously, they don’t care, au contraire, they’d like to see all theses people killing each others. The world is over populated and there isn’t enough resources for everyone on this planet, especially water. And anyone who reads a bit about the Middle East, knows about the water issue and what’s going on in Jordan/Israel.
What Clinton says publicly we are concerned about the innocents… it’s just a song to play to the media.
The priority is for keeping the oil wells secure and it’s done already, the last were in Libya. If any threats surrounding the area they send drones to accomplish the mission no need to send troops.
January 18th, 2012, 1:33 pm
Jerusalem said:
Funny to share:
January 18 2012 00:55
الافتتاحية
يكتبها اليوم : اسامة فوزي
خراي عليكو … وعلى هيك ثورات
انا رجل ثورجي … منذ ان ولدتني امي وحتى بداية ثورات الربيع العربي قبل كم شي شهر .. حيث قررت – بعدها – ان انفض يدي من الثورات العربية وان انضم الى ( الفلول ) وارجو من اجهزة المخابرات العربية ( والامريكية ) التي صنفتني من قبل كثورجي خطير ان تقوم بتحديث ملفاتها عني وان تذكر في اخر السطر اني ( بطلت ) ثورة … ( التوبة ) .. ولم اعد اتعاطاها تماما مثل عادة ( شرب السجاير ) التي بطلتها منذ خمسة عشرا عاما بعد ان اكتشفت ان شرب السجاير مضر بالصحة تماما كما تذكر وزارات الصحة العربية في اعلاناتها المنشورة على علب السجائر التي يمتلك معظم اسهم شركات صنع وبيع السجائر في الدول العربية .. وزراء الصحة انفسهم
انا رجل ( خشيت ) على الستين اي انني من جيل الخمسينات والستينات … ونحن جيل نشأ وترعرع على ثورات من نوع اخر غير الذي نشهده اليوم … ثورات مثل ثورة تشي غيفارا .. او ثورة الخميني … او ثورة جمال عبد الناصر … التي – كلها – استلهمت شعاراتها من الثورة الامريكية التي قادها جورج واشنطون ووضع وثيقتها توماس جيفرسون … وصولا الى الثورة الروسية التي انجبت دولة عظمى اسمها الاتحاد السوفيتي سرعان ما باعها غورباتشوف بثلاثة قروش قبل ان يهرب الى المانيا التي يعيش فيها الان … على الشحادة وتبرعات الاجاويد
ثورات تنبع من الشعب وتخلق منظومة متكاملة اجتماعية واقتصادية وسياسية نابعة من قيم العدالة والمساواة والحرية وتوزيع الثروة … وثورات الربيع العربي كلها – للاسف – ليس فيها اي شيء من هذا
كيف يراد لي ان ابارك ثورة وضع فلسفتها الصهيوني برنارد ليفي الذي ظهر مثلا في غرفة العمليات العسكرية في طرابلس جنبا الى جنب مع قائد الثورة العسكري عبد الفتاح يونس الذي كان الى ما قبل شهر من ثورته يعتقل الناس ويعدمهم باعتباره وزير داخلية معمر القذافي
ما رأيكم لو ان حبيب العادلي وزير داخلية مبارك هو الذي قام بالثورة … هل كنتم ستؤمنون بنقاء سريرتها
كيف يمكن ان ( اهضم ) ثورة عرابها شيخ قطر … ولسانها الاعلامي الناطق فضائية الاميرة الجوهرة وابنها الامير عزوزي … وذراعها العسكري الضارب طائرات الناتو … ومفتيها مغتصب القاصرات وصاحب فتاوى المص واللحس المخبر السابق يوسف القرضاوي
كيف يمكن ان اقتنع بثورة لم تجد بين ملايين التونسيين غير كومبارس من كومبارسات برنامج فيصل القاسم حتى تعينه رئيسا للجمهورية …كومبارس غير محترم كل تاريخه النضالي و ( الثورجي ) مختصر بتمسحه على اعتاب شيوخ النفط وكل ما ابدعه من كتب ثورجية ( مسروقة ) تجده في مزابل بسطات سور الازبكية
يا جماعة الخير
ثورة 23 يوليو افرزت ( الف مصنع ) في اقل من خمس سنوات وبنت السد العالي وأممت قناة السويس ووزعت الاراضي على الفلاحين وعلمت الملايين ( ببلاش ) من الاول الابتدائي وحتى الجامعة … ثورة كانت خلالها شوارع مصر انظف من الطبق الصيني وليس فيها تلال و اهرامات من الزبالة كما هو الحال الان … وكانت كل العائلات المصرية على مختلف مستوياتها الاقتصادية تأكل اللحمة يوميا وتتفسح في الاسكندرية وراس البر بأرش ساغ … ثورة جعلت من المواطن المصري سيد العرب وكانت الامة العربية من محيطها الى خليجها تنتظر خطابات عبد الناصر على احر من الجمر ولا تدير مؤشر المذياع او التلفزيون على اذاعة نانسي عجرم كلما اعلن ان سيادة الرئيس سيلقي خطابا كما حدث ويحدث هذه الايام
ثورة انجبت لنا عمالقة في الادب والفن والرياضة والصحافة والسياسة … ثورة كان مذيع واحد من مذيعي مصر من طراز محمد عروق او احمد حمزة او صلاح عويس ( وكان صديقي ) او عبد الوهاب قتاية ( وهو صديقي ايضا ) او امال فهمي او جلال معوض او احمد فراج يعادل مدرسة اعلامية بكاملها … وليس ثورة تنجب لنا معلقا سياسيا يظهر يوميا على شاشة التلفزيون لينصب الفاعل ويرفع المفعول … ثورة يصبح نجمها التلفزيوني مهرج شبه امي اسمه توفيق عكاشة … وعرابها (وحده ) مثل هالة سرحان التي اصبح ثلاثة من صبيانها من مرشحي الرئاسة في مصر واحدهم يتقاضى مليون جنيه شهريا كمرتب لانه يظهر على شاشة فضائية سعودية ربع ساعة يوميا
ثورة كان مطربها عبد الحليم حافظ وايقونتها ام كلثوم وليس المكوجي الامي شعبان بتاع باحب عمرو موسى والاميرة هند الفاسي … وايههههههههههه
ثورة كان نبض شعبها الثنائي امام ونجم .. الذي – للاسف – انجب ( نوارة ) التي لا زال صوتها يطن في رؤوسنا وهي تصرخ عبر الهاتف .. شكرا قطر … شكرا محطة الجزيرة .. لولولولولولولو يش
ثورة ترفع علم الامة العربية في مظاهراتها في قلب ميدان التحرير.. وليس العلم السعودي
ذا بوطم لاين
ثورات الربيع العربي مشكوك في امرها … انها ابنة سفاح .. شارك في تلقيحها اكثر من اب وكانت الرحم التي حضنتها منظومة دولية تشكلت من اسرائيل وفرنسا وجماعة الاخوان وتنظيم القاعدة وباركها اخونا اوباما بتمويل نفطي طاش على سطح برميله شيخ قطر
هل عرفتم الان لماذا عنونت مقالي الذي حرصت – على غير عادتي – ان يكون مؤدبا جدا … خراي عليكو وعلى هيك ثورات
January 18th, 2012, 1:38 pm
jad said:
An opposition friend told me the same this morning, Syrians are getting tiered and somehow bored of the uprising. I’m not surprise, it’s natural to get there with all the barbaric violence they are exposed to and the threatening they are under everyday by everybody:
المعارض السوري عبد الكريم الريحاوي لـ”عربي برس”:المعارضة تتخبط وأخشى تململ الشعب السوري من الثورة
عربي برس – خاص
اعتبر رئيس الرابطة السورية لحقوق الإنسان عبد الكريم الريحاوي أن البيان الصادر عن الجيش السوري الحر والذي أكد فيه أنه “بعد لقائنا اعضاء المجلس الوطني الغليوني أيقنا تماما ان هؤلاء الناس لا يمثلون بطروحاتهم وبرنامجهم الثورة وما يتطلع اليه الثوار على ارض الواقع فهذا المجلس بأعضائه ومكتبه التنفيذي يجب اسقاط الشرعية عنه”، سيساهم في اتساع الهوة بين الجيش الحر، والمجلس الوطني، وسينسف الإتفاق الذي حصل بينهم الأسبوع الماضي، مضيفاً “سننتظر ماذا سيكون رد المجلس الوطني على تصريحات الجيش الحر”.
ريحاوي وفي تصريح لـ”عربي برس” أكد أن رياض الأسعد تسرّع في اصدار نشرة الترفيعات التي رقي نفسه بموجبها الى رتبة لواء، معرباً عن اعتقاده أن تصرف الأسعد جاء بهدف قطع الطريق امام امكانية تبوأ عسكري اعلى منه رتبة قيادة الجيش الحر، كما ان هناك اشكالية تنظيمية داخل “الجيش السوري الحر”.
رئيس الرابطة السورية لحقوق الإنسان عبّر “عن امتعاضه من حالة الإنقسام الذي بدأت تشهدها الذراع العسكرية للمعارضة السورية، لأن الخلافات، وتبادل الإتهامات الحاصل، بالإضافة الى التخوين المتبادل سيعود بنتائج سلبية على العسكريين المنشقين انفسهم”، إضافة الى “أن الشارع السوري بدأ بالتململ، ومن الممكن أن يؤدي هذا الأمر الى احباط الثوار ودفن الثورة في مهدها”.
ريحاوي لفت الى ان كتيبة الفاروق بحمص وقعت في مطب سيؤثر على سمعة المعارضة السورية مستقبلاً، بعرضها صور المهندسين الإيرانيين المخطوفين على أنهم عناصر تابعين للحرس الثوري الإيراني، مضيفاً: ” لا تتفاجأوا اذا تبرأت كتيبة الفاروق من هذا العمل، لأن هناك ارتباك واضح في عملها”.
ريحاوي رأى ان المعارضة السورية لم ترتقي بعد لمستوى الدم الذي يراق، بسبب امراضها الكثيرة، والمطلوب ادخال كافة اطياف المعارضة في بوتقة واحدة، للمشاركة في صنع القرار”.
وفي رده على سؤال حول التيارات السياسية الموجودة في سورية قال ريحاوي: “وحدهم جماعة الإخوان المسلمين عملوا على تطوير حراكهم السياسي، ولكنهم في نفس الوقت غير مقبولين لدى الشارع السوري، حالهم كحال عدنان العرعور الذي وان كان لديه مؤيدين، وساهم في تأجيج الثورة السورية، إلا اننا لا نتفق ابداً مع ارائه المتطرفة، وكلامه عن قطع الألسن يسئء للثورة واهدافها”.
ريحاوي عبر “عن مخاوفه من مرحلة ما بعد سقوط النظام اذا سقط، لأنه لا يمكن التحكم في غريزة القطيع بالإضافة الى عدم تأكدنا من قدرتنا على حماية الأقليات الموجودة، على الرغم من ان الشعب السوري ليس شعباً طائفياً”.
http://arabi-press.com/?page=article&id=18199
January 18th, 2012, 1:41 pm
jad said:
The Israelis exposed the Qatari-American agreement!
Why now and why by Israel?
يديعوت احرونوت تكشف بنود الإتفاق الذي وقعته قطر مع اميركا
كشف صحيفة (يديعوت احرونوت) الصهيونية مجموعة المطالب التي وقعت عليها قطر بعد اتفاق عقدته مع الإدارة الأميركية.
1. المشاريع الخاصة بالملاعب و المنشآت الرياضية التي ستقوم دولة قطر بإشادتها من أجل نهائيات كأس العالم 2022 يكون حق بنائها محصور بشركتي بناء أمريكيتان هما شركة (موديولار كونستراكشن سيستم الأمريكية ) و شركة (ستار جوزيف الأمريكية)
2. يحق للولايات المتحدة الامريكية عمل استثمارات جديدة في قطاعي النفط و الطاقة في قطر و بتسهيلات قطرية مميزة
3. السماح للولايات المتحدة الأمريكية بالعمل ( الغير مشروط ) في مجال الإعلام خلال فترة المونديال و تجهيز معدات إعلامية متطورة يتم وضعها في قطر اعتباراً من عام 2020 أي قبل المونديال بعامين
و هناك بنود خاصة في الاتفاق ليس لها علاقة بالمونديال و هي عصب هذا الاتفاق و شملت مواضيع سياسية متنوعة و أهمها قضية الشرق الأوسط :
1. تعمل قطر على تعزيز دورها القيادي في المنطقة عبر علاقات مباشرة و مميزة مع سورية و لبنان و تركيا وتطوير العلاقات لتشمل علاقات مباشرة مع حزب الله وحركة حماس و الجهاد الإسلامي.
2. إقناع القيادات السورية إلى ضرورة التخلي عن دعم المنظمات الإرهابية عبر إعطاء ملفات دعم لسورية من خلال إقامة مشاريع قوية في سورية، و تشغيل عدد كبير من السوريين في المشاريع لكسب ود و حب الشعب السوري لأمير قطر.
3. العمل على متابعة الدعم لجنوب لبنان من خلال إشادة الأبنية و المشاريع السكنية و الاستثمارية التي من دورها تُقرب أمير قطر من حزب الله و السعي لكشف مواقع أمين حزب الله و أماكن تواجده من خلال هدايا بسيطة تقدم لاحقاً للأمين العام لحزب الله و هي تساعد في تحديد موقعه بدقة على الأقمار الصناعية.
4. الضغط على تركيا و خاصة ( أردوغان ) من اجل مقاطعة سورية، و بشكل تدريجي من خلال خلق ملف خاص بين الدولتين يتعلق بالأكراد في سورية، و أن سورية تقدم الدعم للأكراد و تثبيت ذلك بمعلومات تصل لاحقاً من البيت الأبيض لأمير قطر من أجل استخدمها في الضغط على تركيا بخصوص أكراد سورية و العراق.
5. تقديم الدعم المادي للرئيس العراقي من اجل أخذ دوره الفعال في العراق و بالتالي الدور الفعال لأمريكا وفق أسس يتم تزويد قطر بها تباعاً.
6. عدم التدخل في الشؤون اللبنانية الداخلية و يبقى الدور مقتصراً على كسب تأييد اللبنانيين في الجنوب و ذلك حسب البند (3)من نص الاتفاق.
7. تفعيل دور قناة الجزيرة أكثر من خلال تغطيات لملفات حساسة في كافة الدول العربية وفق مخططات تصل من مؤسسات إعلامية أمريكية متخصصة بذلك
8. العمل الإعلامي على نشر الفوضى في الوطن العربي من خلال ملفات تتعلق بالفساد في دول عربية في مقدمتها ( سورية ) و جعل المواطن العربي يتحرك نحو التغيير
9. العمل على توسيع النشاط الإعلامي لدولة قطر و المتمثل في قناة الجزيرة من خلال قنوات إعلامية جديدة أو قنوات إذاعية في دول عربية متفرقة.
10. العمل على دعم ملفات خليجية تفيد في تقوية دول الخليج في وجه إيران و المنشآت النووية الإيرانية.
11. السعي لعمل علاقات متميزة مع دول أمريكا اللاتينية من اجل أهداف و خطط سيتم تزويد أمير قطر بها تباعاً.
12. تقديم الدعم لتجمعات ترى أنها مضهدة في الوطن العربي و الشرق الوسط مثل دعم ( السنة في البحرين ) و ( الأكراد في تركيا ) و ( الأرمن في سورية) و ( الدروز في لبنان ) من خلال المال أو الدعم الإعلامي لقضاياهم و مطالبهم.
أما المطالب الاقتصادية فكانت :
1. التأثير على نشاط أوبك من خلال التحكم بالإنتاج النفطي و الإنتاج المصدر من قطر و الخليج العربي
2. توقيع صفقات مالية كبيرة مع دول عربية تستهدف السيطرة على أراضي و قطاعات اقتصادية مهمة في الدول العربية و دول الشرق الأوسط ، من أجل استخدمها كمقرات و مراكز تجسس أثناء تنفيذ المشاريع و التي ستكون مدتها الزمنية مفتوحة بموجب خلق مشاكل و قضايا عالقة من أجل هذه المشاريع مما يعيق إنهاء هذه المشاريع خلال المدة الزمنية المتفق عليها
3. توقيع عقود طيران و عقود سياحية مع دول أوربية طويلة الأجل من اجل السيطرة في مراحل متقدمة على حركة الملاحة الجوية بين الخليج و دول أوربا
4. السعي الجاد لتوقيع اتفاقيات تتعلق بمجال النفط و الطاقة مع إيران على أراضي قطر .. و جعل الاتفاقيات ورقية فقط من أجل تحسين العلاقات مع ايران
5. يتم تزويد قطر بالمبالغ المالية اللازمة لبعض بنود هذا الاتفاق و خاصة ما يتعلق بجنوب لبنان و سورية و ايران
أما البند الأخطر في الاتفاق فهو :
يحق للولايات المتحدة الأمريكية الغاء هذا الاتفاق في أي وقت يثبت فيه عدم قيام قطر بالدور المطلوب منها بموجب هذا الاتفاق و بالتالي الضغط على الفيفا من أجل إلغاء استضافة قطر لمونديال كأس العالم 2022
كما يحق للولايات المتحدة الأمريكية إضافة بنود أخرى للاتفاق وفق المرحلة المقبلة مقابل مبالغ مادية يتم الاتفاق عليها بين قطر و الولايات المتحدة من أجل وضع مبالغ مالية في حسابات الشيخة (موزة ) زوجة امير قطر في سويسرا…
المصدر: وكالات-عربي برس
http://arabi-press.com/?page=article&id=18045
January 18th, 2012, 1:47 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
@AMIR SAID:
Syria will disintegrate into small territories, controlled by warlords. There will be a Homsi worlord, Latakian warlord, Hamwi warlord, Kamishlian warlord etc.
Amir, Israel needs to forget this pipe dream that is in total disinterest to them. We know that Israel is still betting on Syria disintegration and they get to have the cake and eat it too. Even if it to end that way, that is not in the best interests of Israel nor anyone else in the region. Extremists will have free hand in the Golan front and Palestinian extremist as well as Shia extremist backed groups will raise havoc on Israel. Even Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq will face armed insurgencies coming out of Syria. In fact, if there is one country in the region that can strategically benefit from regime collapse and fragmentation of power in Syria is Shia Iran. They will quickly construct a HA style front.
Israel best interests lies in supporting a free and democratic united Syria, one that can make peace with it and go on in investment and development, Gaza is not the model for trading partner and not a dozen like it will be called progress. Selling product at a Dollar loss and expecting to make it on volume is Israel Leaders mentality. Support those that want peace and progress in the region, that is how we all can thrive and prosper, start thinking regionally than a little who in the sand.
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January 18th, 2012, 1:49 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
50. jadsaid:
The Israelis exposed the Qatari-American agreement!
Why now and why by Israel?
يديعوت احرونوت تكشف بنود الإتفاق الذي وقعته قطر مع اميركا
Looks like Israeli brains finally start ticking, regionally speaking. Why now? Because they were left out and have a lot of opportunities pulled from under their feet and practically sequestered into a hole in the sand in the Middle East. That is what I was talking about in the previous comment. Israel needs to start developing own regional plan and identify, support those that are capable of bringing this economic development so we all can gain and win.
January 18th, 2012, 2:16 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
I can tell who wrote that Qatar Agreement, it was not a State Department employee, well he may just acted as delivery person but it was written by someone’s else on you know who behalf. Leo Wanta, missing Pentagon Trillions, missing FED Reserve Trillions, Opium windfall, Nova Scotia, Iraqi and Libya gold….it is endless possibilities. Funny, they shied away from Vatican Conglomerates’ and gone to the Emirates.
January 18th, 2012, 2:27 pm
Revlon said:
45. jad:
((Most Syrians back President Assad, but you’d never know from western media Assad’s popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west’s propaganda war))
It is amazing how Pro-Assad’s aspirations have been humbled down to celebrating a miserable 55% rating, down from 99% popularity of their idol!
Even then, that was an opinion poll mate; not a field survey.
The only field survey that was done in Syria showed 80% plus disapproval of Assad.
An opinion poll on a website represents the views of its frequent visitors.
For example, taking the thumbs up/down on SC as ongoing opinion poll of Assad popularity, Pro-Assads are favourites!
The appropriate conclusion is that more pro-Assad people visit and/or vote on this website than the others; This sample represents SC contributors; not the Syrian public!
If one wants to have a more balanced opinion of Syrians, one needs to consult major news networks polls, where Assad fails miserably!
Thank you for your post as it has made me aware of the dohadebates.com website.
January 18th, 2012, 2:28 pm
aldendeshe said:
Damm, with all this wealth we can transfer the Middle East into another Singapore, so much money to be made and be hidden, washed clean. The whole Idea is smart but the implementation thereof is really flawed. It relied on false assumptions and stereotyped analysis and expectations. How can we convince the Israeli to start thinking out of the Negev Dessert sand box?
January 18th, 2012, 2:34 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
SNP,
I’m not representing Israel on SC. I write what I think. I agree with you that the disintegration of Syria will be bad for Syrians and for the neighborhood. May be the Alawi controlled junta believes that it will be better for the Alawi sect, if their opponents are divided and fragmented. It is the junta that is creating this reality.
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January 18th, 2012, 2:36 pm
jad said:
Dear Son of Damascus,
Sorry for a late reply, I’m going to quickly answer some of the issues you raised in your comment that both of us may see them differently:
SNC:
I guess it’s obvious to many by now that I’m not a fan to the SNC; its vocal members are mostly conservatives and sectarian, its agenda is tainted, and in my opinion it managed to bring together the worst figures any council can have, not to mention that I didn’t trust many of the council members even before the uprising started, so whatever they say I question and I’m suspicious on whatever they are calling for.
What made me write the comment of its supporter being ‘menhebekjieh’ because whatever the SNC announce every body go crazy about and support without understanding the consequence of the decision taken, in a way similar to the ‘baath’ members who say yes to anything the great leader decide.
That is my stand on SNC therefore the fiery comments I wrote against many of its members. Simply I don’t trust them at all.
FSA:
Regarding your stand on FSA, I do understand your position; however, for me I see them as a dangerous element being used to ignite a civil war. I think that they are being a tool and they are ready to be used by whoever pays the right price.
Resistance:
I totally understand your point. In my reply I was referring to the word ‘resistance’ in the context used in the western media as a taboo specific to the endless ME struggle.
Terrorism:
I agree on how you define the term and I add to your list the attacks on infrastructure.
Self defence:
I don’t believe or support holding weapons in an internal political struggle, on individual bases that may be accepted but when it becomes a call for arming the population and militarizing the uprising as we are hearing on daily bases, I object.
It’s the shortest way to a civil war which is already underway in some areas in Syria because of too many weapons and the disappearing of law or order.
Transition in power:
I understand your point that the regime can’t be trusted , it’s killing people, doesn’t have any high standards or respect to human lives, and without any vision, Well, aren’t the coming leadership supposed to bring in all these principles, isn’t the new administration responsible to upgrade the standards, protect people, respect human rights and have a vision. It’s the mission of the new leadership to do all these things and to do that, we need to do the transition and no for any transition in power to happen it’s not necessary that the regime you are taking the lead from to be ‘civilized’, but for the sake of the majority of your people you need to make the process as safest as you could even when it means that you have to deal with the most criminal ones, our priority is to save more lives than wasting them.
Reality check:
I agree with you, It is necessary to dream and to plan and to have limitless vision but again, we have no choice but to be reasonable in our expectation, otherwise we become delusional.
Thank you again for the respected exchange.
Regards.
January 18th, 2012, 2:44 pm
defender said:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/221741.html
Qatari Emir secretly visited Israel: Clip
Qatari Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani has made a secret visit to Israel despite the fact that Doha and Tel Aviv have no political relations, a video has revealed.
Israeli Kadima leader Tzipi Livni welcomed the Emir and Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad Bin Jasim Bin Jaber Al Thani during the visit.
The Qatari Emir and his delegation also met several high-ranking Israeli officials.
Signing a new gas export contract and writing Qatari textbooks by Israeli experts were among topics discussed between Sheikh Hamad and Livni.
Sheikh Hamad reportedly stressed the significance of political relations between the two sides.
Livni informed Qatar of its important role in talks between Arabs and Israel.
Qatar and Israel have common viewpoints regarding Iran’s nuclear program. Doha has repeatedly supported Tel Aviv against Iran. Qatar would also be able to assist Israel in the event of a military strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities.
It is noteworthy that in April 2008, Livni, who was Israeli foreign minister, used a visit to Qatar to lobby the Arab state to oppose Iran’s nuclear program.
AGB/HGH
January 18th, 2012, 3:30 pm
zoo said:
Russia vows to block Western intervention in Syria
Associated PressBy ZEINA KARAM | Associated Press – 38 mins ago
https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=13149#comment-291760
January 18th, 2012, 3:34 pm
Ghat Al Bird said:
SNP@ 51.
A South African cartoon that shows who is top dog in the ME.
http://www.blackcommentator.com/429/429_images/429_cartoon_israel_us_congress_zapiro_over.gif
January 18th, 2012, 3:35 pm
norman said:
Defender,
I think the video is old the Amir has lest significant WT recently, so this is probably old and the presence of the Oriental carpet indicate that this is in Qatar probably
January 18th, 2012, 3:45 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
@60. Ghat Al Birdsaid:
Sorry, can you descibe the cartton. My proxy and network will not allow me to click to open embeded links. That is why you don’t see many thumbs up on SNP comments, we hide behind 7 proxy layers.
January 18th, 2012, 3:55 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
Revlon,the death and Fatiha specialists
So if Assad only gets 20%,who is getting the 80%?
Ghalion?Zebalih?Aroor?Riad Lahad?
Cheers(your copy rights,always in cheer mode you are as long as you smell blood)
January 18th, 2012, 3:56 pm
defender said:
61
http://www.infowars.com/qatari-emir-secretly-visited-israel/
January 18th, 2012, 4:01 pm
defender said:
Reflect! What cost of all of it?
January 18th, 2012, 4:21 pm
sooriyahurra said:
I think we will see more and more territory slipping from the army, till they control a tiny part of the country.
They havent been able to stop this growing defection , they wont be now
January 18th, 2012, 4:48 pm
jad said:
لافروف يناشد العربي العمل على استئناف الحوار بين الحكومة السورية والمعارضة
ناشد وزير الخارجية الروسي سيرغي لافروف، الدكتور نبيل العربي أمين عام جامعة الدول العربية العمل على تعزيز استئناف الحوار بين الحكومة السورية والمعارضة من قبل الجامعة.
وذكر راديو “صوت روسيا” أن كلا من لافروف والعربي تناولا خلال محادثة هاتفية آخر تطورات الأوضاع على ساحة منطقة الشرق الأوسط بالتفصيل، وبخاصة بعثة مراقبي الجامعة العربية إلى سورية.
وخلال المكالمة، أعرب لافروف عن دعمه لهذه البعثة مؤكدا على أهمية مواصلة عملها في سورية . كما أعرب عن رغبته في أن يتم الحوار بين الحكومة والمعارضة بأسرع وقت ممكن.
المصدر: وكالات-عربي برس
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بيرنز أكد ضرورة استقالة الأسد:مستعدون للتعاون مع موسكو لحل أزمة سوريا
جدد نائب وزيرة الخارجية الأميركية، ويليام بيرنز، تأكيد بلاده “ضرورة استقالة الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد، واستعدادها للتعاون مع موسكو لحل الأزمة السورية”.
وأشار بيرنز – في حديث الى صحيفة “كوميرسانت” الروسية ونقلته وكالة أنباء “إيتارتاس” الروسية- إلى “سعي واشنطن لإصدار قرار من مجلس الأمن الدولي يسمح بإدانة النظام السوري، ويزيد من الضغط عليه”، محملاً النظام السوري مسؤولية إراقة الدماء في سوريا، وواصفا ممارسات النظام خلال العام الماضي بـ”القاسية”.
وألقى بيرنز الضوء على أن “السلطات السورية لم تنفذ مطالب جامعة الدول العربية بالإفراج عن جميع المعتقلين السياسيين وإخراج الجيش من المدن وتمكين المواطنين من ممارسة حقهم في الاحتجاج السلمي وتمكين المراقبين العرب من تحقيق مهمتهم على أكمل وجه”.
الخبر برس : الإخبارية اللبنانية
January 18th, 2012, 4:52 pm
Khalid Tlass said:
Amir in tel Aviv,
Yoy got it al worng. Syrian society is not tribal based that it can be controlled by “warlords”. Only in some parts of Deir al Zour and Kurdish territories that may happen, but overall Syrians’ loyalties are generally not to local leaders. Syrians have sectarian loyalty and for last 10 moths sectarian soldiarity, all anti-regime will be united behind FSA and pro-regime behind Assad.
And if push comes to shove, the Alawis and loyalist Christians will not fight to the last breath, if they see too many casualties they will go to PLAN B. That is, retraeting with bulk of heavy weapons and soldiers to the Alawite Mountains, set up a Russian-backed Kosovo type state, backed by Russian Naval Power in Latakia and Tartous, set up Capital in Latakia, throw out the Sunnis or massacre them, trade with Iran and Russia thru the ports of latkia and Tartous. That will be a bad situation for “Sunni Syria” as the only outlet to sea will be cut off, large part of Sunni population at Alawites mercy, huge revenue from trading lost. And this Plan B is very viable, the Alawite State will be protected by Russain Navy, recognised by Iran, Iraq and other such, perhaps npt recognized internationally but with Iran, Russia, and others they can survive.
The mountainous nature of the terrain will make ot very difficult for Syria to launch a military assault on this new State, as an Armoured assault out of the question, sending infantry units will get them slaughtered since Alawites will fight in familiar terrain and that area is suitable for guerilla warfare/ Only options for Syria, pound the hell out of the area with Air Force with full backing of NATO/AL, including chemicla attacks Halabja style, plus daily dose of Artillery and rocket attacks, a total massacre may work, but will have top deal with Russia, iraq, Iran and Lebanon, will have to deal with these motherfucking nations, should be prepared top wipe out Iraq from face of the earth if need arises.
Syria will be forced to trade through Turkey, since Iraq and Lebanon will all but cut off relations with “Sunni Syria”, the new Syria will be surrounded by Shia states and rely even more on Turkey, and forced to rely on Israel and Jordan, and wipe Iraq off the map.
Only option for Syria will be to improve relations with Israel and Jordan, as long as there are thick-headed Shia in this region. The best option is to go for jugular vein and “final solution” to “Shia problem”, total extermination of all those who await the Mahdi and call Ali their Imam.
January 18th, 2012, 5:02 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Russia is ordering Assad to resign,and leave Syria,his vice president will take over,dialogue then start,and peaceful transition will start.
January 18th, 2012, 5:03 pm
Tara said:
New round of sanctions by the EU. Financial sanctions should include Bushra and her children, Anisa, Asma and the children
http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2012/01/18/eu-to-slap-fresh-sanctions-on-syria/
JANUARY 18, 2012, 5:04 PM
EU To Slap Fresh Sanctions On Syria
By Samuel Rubenfeld
The European Union will expand its sanctions regime on Syria, adding 22 individuals and eight companies to its blacklist, EU diplomats said to AFP.
“As long as the repression continues we will step up our restrictive measures,” an EU diplomatic source said to AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The latest measures are expected to be announced Monday during a meeting in Brussels of EU foreign ministers, another diplomat said. Identities of the new targets weren’t immediately available, according to the AFP report.
Thus far, the AFP report said 120 people and companies have had an EU asset freeze and travel ban imposed upon them under the Syria sanctions regime.
The United Nations estimates that more than 5,400 people have been killed in a bloody crackdown by President Bashar al-Assad’s regime against pro-democracy protesters.
Also to be discussed Monday in Brussels is a plan for a crude-oil embargo on Iran that diplomats are coalescing around bringing into force on July 1, according to a Wall Street Journal report.
January 18th, 2012, 5:24 pm
zoo said:
Syrian Kurds form their own council in Arbil
Wednesday,January 18 2012,
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syrian-kurds-form-their-own-council-in-arbil.aspx?pageID=238&nID=11806&NewsCatID=352
ISTANBUL – Hürriyet Daily News
Riot police stand guard as Syrian Kurds protest in front of the UN office in Arbil to demand the departure of the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime. AFP photo
Riot police stand guard as Syrian Kurds protest in front of the UN office in Arbil to demand the departure of the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime. AFP photo
Syrian opposition Kurdish parties are preparing to announce the formation of their own “National Kurdish Council” in the northern Iraqi capital of Arbil, the Hürriyet Daily News has learned.
“There will be a meeting of the Syrian Kurdish groups on Jan. 21 in Arbil. The Kurdish parties participating in the meeting will make a call to all the other Syrian Kurdish parties to join them,” Kendal Efrini, a Syrian Kurdish opposition member and representative of the Alliance of Syrian Liberals in Europe, told the Hürriyet Daily News in an interview on Wednesday.
Dr. Abdul Hakim Bashar, secretary-general of the Kurdish Democratic Party in Syria, will lead the National Kurdish Council, which will become the second national council established by opposition forces after the establishment of the Syrian National Council.
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January 18th, 2012, 5:27 pm
irritated said:
68. majedkhaldoun
The western countries needs a scapegoat. If Bashar al Assad goes, nothing is going to change ( ref Egypt)
January 18th, 2012, 5:30 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Dear Jad,
This exchange has been nothing but a delight for me, for the first time I see myself expressing my thoughts and beliefs about our Syria and it is truly an exhilarating feeling. If one thing this revolution has accomplished, is that we Syrians are trying to solve our own problems for once and not everyone else’s, we have broken through the fear barrier and it is up to us to make the best out of it.
Below is my reply, I kept it short as well (EDIT: I obviously failed at keeping it short, it is shorter now)
SNC:
You are right about the SNC, there are elements within it that I really don’t like or trust (MB, Salafi groups), that does not mean I should deny them their right to voice their opinion, denying them their voice would alienate them and not be correct, just like if they did the same to us (seculars). Extremist exist in every society, but it is society’s job to keep them on the fringes, or else we are doomed to repeat history. Accepting the SNC does not mean I accept every man and woman within it, because as I said before it is not a political party but a group of different Syrians getting together with one main cause, to topple this brutal and bloody dictatorship. By the way I have yet to see anyone kneel down to kiss a picture of Ghalyoun or any member of the SNC for that matter, nor do I see their posters put up in Bab Amr, Harasta, Douma, Idlib … until then in my opinion the Menhebak term is the exclusive right of the pro regime side (and I know many hold that term as a badge of honour).
FSA:
You are absolutely correct in your observation if you believe that the FSA is a coordinated Militia, I don’t believe they have a central command that follows a chain of command. Every area is forming its own militia (or gangs) to protect it from the authorities, which is more plausible in my opinion than a unified force with a chain of command (I like Nir Rosens take, that Dr. Landis talked about in his article). Again I must say that I have a general distrust with anyone with a gun, because my freedom won’t come by a gun but by my voice, but when my state fails to defend me and attacks me I have every right to fight back.
Resistance:
Even in the terms you define it I don’t like it, I don’t see it as resisting colonial/Zionist powers anymore, it is resisting globalization where every culture and country in the world is all of a sudden exposed to the rest of the world. This resistance you can see it all over the world (Chavez, Nasrallah, Ahmadinejad, Wahhabis, Christian Right, Neo Nazis … ) and they are all spewing the same hateful bigoted message, what they are resisting at the end of the day is peace for it goes against their self serving interest.
Terrorism:
I really have nothing to add here, we both agree it is a horrible and despicable act when the innocent are targeted.
Self defence:
The right for one to stand up to the face of tyranny and fight it is important, and to do so alone pretending you are Rambo against an actual State Military Force is both impossible and futile. The better organized local rebel forces that know the area and work together have a much better chance than if they tried to do so alone.
Transition of power:
In order for any new leadership to enact those principles they must first topple the existing one, I am willing to give the SNC the benefit of the doubt for now but if they falter or take their sweet ass time when the time comes and the regime is toppled, believe me when I say I will be doing more than just voicing my displeasure. I want what is best for our country, and I have absolute trust in the Syrian people in general, because if we just look at the diaspora of Syrians around the world a lot of them went on to be leaders of industry and commerce, great musicians and poets. I read a sentence today at OTW blog that made me cry at how genuinely true it is: “Syria, I trust you” the only thing I would add to that is “Syria, I love you”
Reality Check:
There is a fine line between delusional and genius, Galileo was called delusional at his time and excommunicated by the Catholic Church, we all know now how untrue that was.
Again this has been a delight, this kind of discourse between Syrians is what Syria needs in my opinion, we all love our country and are all extremely sad and angry at seeing it ripped apart.
Thank you Jad
Regards
Son of Damascus
January 18th, 2012, 5:34 pm
Khalid Tlass said:
What the fuck, if Bashar resigns, the FSA should kill the entire Cabinet, NO DIALOGUE !!! FINAL SOLUTION TO SHIA PROBLEM !!!
January 18th, 2012, 5:40 pm
son of Damascus said:
Khalid,
The last man that had a final solution for a group of people, as hard and as many he tried to kill he did not succeed. And he had the might of the third Reich backing him.
Calling for murder and purging of Syrians (or any group of people for that matter) is sickening and wrong on so many different levels, I hope you learn that one day.
Dialogue does not mean talking with the murderers, dialogue means Syrians talking with each other so that we build a better future for our Country. Every person with blood on their hands must be brought to justice, but justice does not mean hatred and bigotry.
January 18th, 2012, 5:57 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
Long live Khalid Tlass
Long live Abdelrezaj Tlass
Long live All the Terrorists,the builders of the new
JAHEEMSTAN
January 18th, 2012, 6:06 pm
Observer said:
I maintain that the current regime and the armed forces are not legitimate and under both Syrian and International law the officers are obligated to refuse orders to shoot to kill innocent civilians. That was the basis for the Nuremberg trials and Syria is a signatory to the International judiciary with regard to human rights and to the Geneva convention for more emphasis. Calling for the army to enter into a town and kill people is pure criminality.
I read hate and propaganda from JAD and Norman and I never read SNK for he is not worth wasting my time, as for ANN which stands for ADORING NEWS NETWORK I usually look at the title as the regime is trying to clutch at straws from here and there to prop up its support and to discredit its opponents.
As for JAD under the foul disguise of reasonableness he is actually asking for a status quo and for the fox to guard the hen house and be its guardian asking us to believe that this fox has become vegan.
As for the accusation that “I want to split the country” my response is simple to all of the arguments: ask the people what they want and if some want to separate and create their own country so be it. What is so great in keeping the Sudan together, an artificial country with the north and south so different and with one group trying to impose its agenda and identity on the other. Why should the Kurds remain partitioned into the artificial countries of Syria and Iraq and to a lesser extent Iran and Turkey. In Iran 52#% of the population is Persian the rest being ethnically diverse such as Arabs Kurds Baluch Azeris and what have you. In Iraq we are seeing the disintegration of the country that was kept together by fire and steel. Now that the US has departed it is up to the Iraqis to rise to the challenge so is the case for the Libyans as they struggle to rebuild and whatever they rebuild it is THEIR CHOICE. It is not JAD’s choice or Norman’s vision or my vision. Let the people decide and wish them well and give them your support instead of constantly patronize them and tell them what to do. For 50 years we have been fed the garbage of One Umma with an Eternal Mission and with Arab nationality as the only way.
It is a myth and the myth was destroyed first and foremost in 1967 and any doubts about this myth were finally buried in 1991 when one country invaded another.
One final thing, the scandals and the depth of corruption and the utter hellish depravity of the Arab regimes and the horrific stories of torture and humiliation and mass killings that these regimes have practiced now that they have been overthrown is again a testimony to the resilience and patience of the people as they endured so much hardship that their Job’s patience should be celebrated.
There is no Heaven or Hell in afterlife, there is certainly Hell on earth and one chamber of it is the Syrian repression system.
Wake up you adoring adulating Besho crowds.
Cheers the germs are multiplying.
One final note, JAD’s comments are proof of his hatred.
January 18th, 2012, 6:07 pm
zoo said:
Was Perry wrong on Turkey?
By Michael Rubin
January 17, 2012, 12:07 pm
http://blog.american.com/2012/01/was-perry-wrong-on-turkey/
Governor Rick Perry is catching flack for calling Turkey’s leadership “Islamic terrorists.” While I would not go so far as Governor Perry, had he simply called Prime Minister Erdoğan an enabler for Islamic terrorists, he would be 100 percent correct.
I’ve previous charted Turkey’s path from ally to adversary. But here are a couple factoids which Perry might know, but many journalists and analysts may not:
• Prime Minister Erdoğan endorsed an Al Qaeda financier.
http://www.forbes.com/2008/01/24/turkey-yasin-al-qadi-biz-cz_rm_0124alqadi.html
• Turkey also helped supply Al Qaeda in Iraq.
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=196752
• Erdoğan had repeatedly embraced Hamas and acted to supply it.
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=2465
• Under Erdoğan’s watch, the murder rate of women in Turkey has increased 1,400 percent.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/europe/Turkeys-Murder-Rate-of-Women-Skyrockets-117093538.html
• Under Turkey’s Islamist government, press freedom has plummeted.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/world/europe/turkeys-glow-dims-as-government-limits-free-speech.html?pagewanted=all
Governor Perry may not have broad foreign policy expertise, but sometimes it’s useful to call a toad a toad, or at least a supporter of toads.
January 18th, 2012, 6:10 pm
irritated said:
SOD
“but justice does not mean hatred and bigotry.”
In the Arab World it does. Just read some comments and these are educated people!
January 18th, 2012, 6:13 pm
Tara said:
Justice for violence Aryeh Neier (Debate)
19 January 2012 For months now, it has been clear that no peaceful, even satisfactory, resolution of the conflict in Syria is possible without external intervention.
Paradoxically, too many Syrian civilians have been tortured, wounded, and killed to stop the demonstrations seeking the ouster of President Bashar Al Assad. The victims’ families, friends, and neighbours simply will not accept the Assad regime’s continuation in any form. So what will happen?
One possibility is that the regime will greatly escalate the killing. If it kills 10 or 20 times as many as have died thus far, perhaps it will succeed in creating so much terror that the protests will stop. Though this is far from certain, it is hard to imagine that maintaining the current level of violence will make Syrians bow to the regime, given that so many have refused to do so up to now.
Another possibility is that Assad, his family, and his top associates flee the country. But, even in that case, their flight probably would not end the strife. The Syrian armed forces have so much blood on their hands that those who have suffered losses or sympathise with the victims of repression are sure to demand that the killers be held accountable. Without a mechanism in place to see that justice is meted out in a fair and orderly way, Assad’s departure, by itself, will not end the violence.
If an even greater catastrophe than what is now taking place is to be avoided, external intervention is essential. Yet there are many good reasons not to intervene militarily – including the undesirability of doing so again so soon after NATO’s intervention in Libya, which would create the impression that such actions are becoming routine.
Indeed, many in the Arab world questioned even the Libyan intervention, because the United States-led invasion of Iraq years earlier had discredited the use of military force against a dictator. And, of course, it is difficult to discern who would contribute military resources for intervention in Syria, how great a commitment would be required, and how to ensure the least possible additional loss of life.
One way to intervene with the aim of securing legitimacy and minimising further bloodshed would be for the Arab League to establish a tribunal modelled on the International Criminal Court (ICC). Such a tribunal would have Arab judges, prosecutors, investigators, and defence attorneys, and it would conduct its proceedings in Arabic. It would have jurisdiction over the crimes that are spelled out in the ICC’s statute, and it would operate in accordance with the ICC’s procedures.
The ICC itself does not have jurisdiction over Syria, because the country is not a party to the treaty that established and governs the Court. Moreover, it seems likely that Russia, perhaps joined by China, would use its veto power in the United Nations Security Council to block referral of Syria to the ICC.
Though it would take time for an ad hoc Arab tribunal to be formed and to reach the point at which it could issue indictments, Syrian military commanders would immediately be put on notice that they could face prosecution for their actions against protesters. Indeed, the Arab League could strengthen the incentive to end the killings by determining that priority would be given to prosecuting those who commit additional crimes after the adoption of a resolution to establish such a tribunal.
Experience over the past two decades with ad hoc tribunals in other parts of the world demonstrates that they have a good record in apprehending those whom they indict. When the UN established the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia in 1993, its many detractors claimed that it would go nowhere because it could not compel the appearance of defendants. In fact, however, the ICTY has succeeded in bringing before it every defendant that it indicted from all parties to the post-Yugoslav wars of the 1990’s.
It is impossible to predict that establishment of such a tribunal, whether by the Arab League or some other international body, would suffice to halt the bloodshed. More may be required. But setting in motion a process to bring the perpetrators of heinous crimes to justice seems appropriate in its own right. And it seems worth trying such an approach before attempting to fight violence with violence.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=/data/opinion/2012/January/opinion_January72.xml§ion=opinion
January 18th, 2012, 6:16 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Irritated,
Ones level of education does not necessarily translate to humility, bigots come in all colours and levels of education.
January 18th, 2012, 6:39 pm
zoo said:
After Libya, it is again Arab League who could trigger a change in the Syrian crisis: a thorough analysis of what is at stake.
Syria monitors’ report awaited at UN Security Council
By Barbara Plett BBC UN correspondent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16610263
For the UN Security Council, much is at stake when it comes to the Arab League’s monitors in Syria.
There are two broad but opposing positions in the Council. Both have tied their policies to the fate of the mission, which was given a month to observe Syria’s compliance with an Arab peace plan, and is expected to report back this week.
In essence, the divide is over whether the Security Council should get involved in the Syrian crisis.
On one side are Western nations (in particular Britain, France, the United States and Germany) which see the conflict as appalling government repression of peaceful protesters. They seek a strong condemnation of Damascus and punitive action such as sanctions or an arms embargo.
On the other side are states led by Russia, which is intent on protecting its considerable strategic interests with a long-time Arab ally.
But it also believes that any Council intervention would have a hidden and counter-productive agenda of ousting the regime of President Bashar al-Assad, and fears a scenario where the UN backs one side in a civil war, as it claims happened in Libya.
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Hence the importance of how the Arab League judges its mission, and what it decides to do next.
Continue reading the main story
“ We might have a chance of avoiding a Russian veto only if we get a public and official request for action from the Arab League” Gerard Araud French ambassador to the UN
It might bow to growing criticism that its monitors are failing to stem the violence in Syria and refer the matter to the Security Council. Council members give considerable weight to regional requests, and Western powers believe such a clear signal could break Russian resistance to UN action.
“We might have a chance of avoiding a Russian veto only if we get a public and official request for action from the Arab League,” says French Ambassador Gerard Araud. “That is certainly a necessary condition, although I don’t know if it is a sufficient one.”
But the Arab League could also decide to continue and bolster its mission, strengthening the hand of Russia, which has argued that the monitors are helping to stabilise the situation.
“We think they’ve established a foothold there,” says Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin. “They’re in a better position than initially to have a restraining influence, so we hope they will continue beyond (one month) and as long as it takes for the political crisis to be brought to a halt.”
Arab divisions
It is not only the Security Council that is divided: members of the Arab League are also far apart.
Qatar is leading the drive against Syria, with quiet support from Gulf states. Others like Algeria, Iraq and, according to a Western diplomat, even Egypt may oppose any referral to the Council.
Arab differences mirror the UN debate over the need for outside intervention and the desirability of regime change, even though they couch their concerns in the language of human rights.
Analysts say the Sunni Muslim Gulf states see the end of the Assad regime as an opportunity to weaken Syria’s Shia Muslim ally Iran, which they perceive as a growing regional threat.
Other Arab governments see the end of the regime ushering in a sectarian and civil war that could suck in players from Israel to Iran. For them, supporting the Arab mission is a way of avoiding any international action that could contribute to the break-up of Syria: not necessarily through a Libya-like Nato operation but through punishing sanctions, no-fly or buffer zones, or the creation of safe havens for the opposition.
‘Fuzzy outcome’
For these states, the emergence of an armed resistance in Syria is every bit as alarming as the government’s repression.
A member of the Free Syrian Army in the Idlib province of Syria, close to Turkey Some Arab countries say the monitors are having trouble with the armed resistance
“The feeling is that the Syrian government is in the process of making more of an effort, but the Arab League is especially having problems with the armed opposition and is not managing to penetrate neighbourhoods that are today belonging to the opposition,” Algerian Foreign Minister Mourad Medelci told journalists at the UN recently.
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Yet the bottom line remains that the strength of any Council action will depend on the strength of an Arab League mandate. And without a clear Arab referral to the UN, Western nations will likely face a Russian veto for anything other than the weakest of resolutions.
January 18th, 2012, 6:39 pm
Darryl said:
76. OBSERVER said:
Observer, you have said many good things in your post, there is but one major error. There is heaven on earth, but some choose to make it hell, and the religious fools are the main culprits.
January 18th, 2012, 6:53 pm
Norman said:
Observer,
The Syrian soldiers are not shooting at civilians, otherwise we would have see more death, we do not see much in most of the country, the death are in Homs, Idlib and Daraa, the army is shooting back at militants that use the civilians as human shield, The Syrian army should be more careful but the civilians should stay clear from these terrorists,
We can still have one nation but we need to decentralize and make the people responsible for their leaders.
January 18th, 2012, 6:54 pm
Jerusalem said:
Interesting article from Homs
http://syriasteps.com/?d=152&id=81322&in_main_page=1
January 18th, 2012, 6:56 pm
jad said:
Dear Son of Damascus,
Nice come back, again, my reply:
SNC:
I agree with you, I guess I should’ve been more specific in expressing my disagreement with the council instead of being vague and general.
I’m not denying their rights to voice their opinion, the core of the changes many Syrians are calling for is the right of expressing their opinions without fear and I’m support that in any and every peaceful way possible.
I’m against the incoherence in the message they are sending, I’m against the false hopes many of the SNC members sending to their supporters knowing the difficulties of achieving what they are promising, I’m against attacking the core of Syria either the flag or the anthem those are not symbols of the regime, they are our national identity and they should stay out of the political market. I’m also against the segregation message they are proposing between the Syrian society and I’m against the violence path they are taking as their only solution to what we have and their disgusting partnership with the Syrian people enemies to get to power, for me that is not what I want to see as a Syrian in the opposition. It’s giving the wrong message to everybody and putting Syrians in danger of losing everything instead of helping them gain strength and move forward for me they proved that they are bunch of politics and diplomacy illiterate and they let a warmonger to lead them to a disaster.
FSA:
Please read these few articles and studies by Erica Chenoweth a well-known non-violent researcher, she is a strong supporter for Syrians and she always ask for the same message, ‘DO NOT USE WEAPONS, it’ll be the end of the struggle’. I linked couple of her studies before but as usual nobody cares to learn from history, they want to repeat every mistake done and weep afterword on losing their future instead of listening and learning from other people’s mistakes.
13 Ways to Support the Syrian Opposition Right Now
http://rationalinsurgent.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/13-ways-to-support-the-syrian-opposition-right-now/
How Important is Turkey’s Support of the Free Syrian Army?
http://themonkeycage.org/blog/2011/10/30/how-important-is-turkey%E2%80%99s-support-of-the-free-syrian-army/
Armed Wing in Syria: To What Effect?
http://rationalinsurgent.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/armed-wing-in-syria-to-what-effect/
Resistance:
I’m ok to disagree with you on this hoping that when things get better we can both come back to this point to make our differences closer a bit.
Terrorism:
Agreed as before
Self defence:
We don’t have to be Rambos, even in Nazi Germany people fought in a nonviolence way and many of them died but they start something that last longer and inspired many generations afterward, look for The White Rose movement to see that self-defence can be done without a gun.
Our Syrian martyrs against the Ottomans who were hanged in Alamrjeh sq, on May 6th they didn’t need to kill anybody to spread the light of freedom to us all, sometimes, we may need to lose our weapons to gain freedom instead of become murderers.
Transition of power:
“they must first topple the existing one”
not necessary, you can only topple it from within and through a political revolution over the existing mentality of the society, there is a way out without the need to destroy everything.
“I am willing to give the SNC the benefit of the doubt for now”
They are part of the picture and not the whole picture, they represent part of the Syrians and not all of the Syrians, and they can work better as political parties within the state to make it better instead of what they are doing today.
I know that all what I’m writing means nothing in the middle of this ‘war’ but ignoring the facts that the damage been done so far by the SNC is grave, at least from my point of view.
(“Syria, I trust you”) Beautiful yet it’s merely words for me when I’m putting my trust in a picture I’m not being able to make it reality what is real is this: ‘Syria, we betray your trust’
Reality Check:
Delusional in ‘Science’ is different than delusional in ‘reality’
“this kind of discourse between Syrians is what Syria needs in my opinion”
Dialogue and reconciliation is the way out my friend.
“we all love our country and are all extremely sad and angry at seeing it ripped apart.”
We do, as you wrote “Syria, I love you” my worries is that we are going to kill it out of our ‘love’
Have a great day Son of Damascus, be happy, strong and optimistic, Inshallah Sourya tseer a7san.
January 18th, 2012, 7:00 pm
Tara said:
Zabadani is under the control of the FSA. Is that finally confirmed? Assad to remain Prez while MB control the government?
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/report-syrian-rebels-take-control-over-area-outside-damascus-1.408046
Report: Syrian rebels take control over area outside Damascus
Assad forces withdraw from area of al-Zabadani, located 19 miles outside Damascus, after Syrian government and rebels reach local ceasefire.
Opposition forces in Syria succeeded in taking control of an area outside Damascus on Wednesday as Syrian troops withdrew from the town, Al-Arabiya reported.
The Free Syria Army’s seizure of the area of al-Zabadani, located 19 miles (30 km) outside of the capital Damascus, marks the first time rebels succeeded in taking control over land in Syria.
Syrian troops reportedly withdrew from the area after rebels and government forces agreed on a ceasefire one day earlier.
The deal was reached between town leaders and Deputy Defense Minister Assef Shawkat, who is the brother-in-law of Syrian President Bashar Assad.
“We do not know how long this ceasefire will last,” opposition activist Ahmad al-Saeed told German news agency DPA on Wednesday. According to al-Saeed, government forces had agreed to end their siege of the town, while rebel forces agreed to withdraw from the town’s streets.
The Syrian government issued no immediate comment on the matter.
Fighting continued elsewhere in the country, as the army shelled the city of Daraa. Opposition sources reported five people killed and some forty arrests in the area.
Also Wednesday, representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood claimed to have rejected a proposal floated by Iran that that group be given control over the Syrian government in exchange for its agreement that Assad remain president.
January 18th, 2012, 8:12 pm
jad said:
The return of the ‘eye witness’ soapopera:
وينو علي، وينو علي؟
مذيعة العربية وشاهد عيان من الزبداني
http://youtu.be/tOAQWDOPBCg
January 18th, 2012, 8:24 pm
Tara said:
“An attempt to negotiate a cease-fire during battles in the central town of Rastan in July fell apart and an armored force regained control after 10 days of fighting rebels.
Activists said Zabadani, linked to old smuggling routes in the rugged mountains separating Syria and Lebanon, is more difficult to storm than Rastan, surrounded by flat farmland.
“I think the regime agreed to the truce because they know that with the mountainous terrain, if their forces fought on they would suffer much heavier losses than the rebels despite the difference in weapons,” said Maher Ismail, a spokesman for the Free Syrian Army, an umbrella group for loosely organised army defectors that says it is helping defend the town.
“Our calculation as of now is that the regime will stop firing, but it will not back away. We imagine they may just be planning a new strategy for attack,” he added.
Kamal al-Labwani, an opposition leader from Zabadani who fled to Jordan last month, said keeping tanks nearby was part of pressure by the authorities on residents to give up their guns.
“The regime is pushing through intermediaries for the rebels to hand in their arms, but I don’t think it is going to happen,” Labwani said.
Labwani said earlier that one person had been killed and 50 wounded in Zabadani during the attack. About 30 pro-Assad soldiers had also been killed, as had an unknown number of soldiers who had defected to the rebels, he added.
Activists from Zabadani said the cease-fire agreement was reached on Tuesday between town leaders and Deputy Defense Minister Assef Shawkat, Assad’s brother-in-law.”
Read more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/jan/18/syria-ceasefire-in-zabadani-live-udates
January 18th, 2012, 8:25 pm
jad said:
Russia wont give ‘the west’ any UN resolution for a military mission, they have no choice but to do it on their own while France won’t accept that unless something really big happens:
«الإجراءات الاقتصادية ضد إيران لا علاقة لها بالملف النووي»
لافروف: سنستعمل الفيتو في مجلس الأمن
ضد العقوبات أو التدخل العسكري في سوريا
رفضت روسيا أمس، استراتيجية العقوبات التي يتبعها الغرب ضد سوريا وإيران، فانتقدت فرض المزيد من العقوبات الاقتصادية على إيران، وأكدت انها لن توافق على اي تدخل عسكري في سوريا في إطار الامم المتحدة.
وفي مؤتمر صحافي في موسكو، حذر وزير الخارجية سيرغي لافروف من أن روسيا التي تعارض فرض اي عقوبات او اي تدخل خارجي في سوريا، مستعدة لاستخدام حق النقض (الفيتو) الذي تتمتع به بصفتها دولة دائمة العضوية في مجلس الامن الدولي. وقال «بالنسبة لنا فإن الخط الأحمر واضح. لن ندعم فرض اي عقوبات». وأضاف ان اي دولة ترغب في اي تدخل عسكري في سوريا «لن تحصل على اي تفويض من مجلس الامن الدولي».
وأشار لافروف الى ان روسيا ستستخدم حق النقض لمنع تبني اي مقترحات للتدخل العسكري في سوريا، بينما تصبح السياسة الخارجية الروسية اكثر تصلباً مع اقتراب الانتخابات الرئاسية التي ستجرى في آذار المقبل والعودة المتوقعة لفلاديمير بوتين الى الكرملين. وقال الوزير الروسي انه اذا ارادت دول «اللجوء الى القوة بأي ثمن فاحتمال ان نتمكن من معارضة ذلك ضئيل. لكن هذا يبقى مبادرة خاصة بها وتعود الى ضمائرها … لكنهم لن يحصلوا على اي تفويض من مجلس الأمن الدولي».
وأخيرا، دافع لافروف عن التجارة الروسية مع سوريا وسط تزايد الجدل حول الشحنة الغامضة التي تردد انها تحمل اسلحة الى دمشق. ورداً على سؤال حول انتقادات المندوبة الاميركية في الامم المتحدة سوزان رايس عقب انباء أن الشحنة تحمل اسلحة وذخائر للقوات السورية وسط حملة القمع التي يشنها النظام السوري، قال لافروف «لقد سمعت أن سوزان رايس تطلب حتى بعض التوضيحات». واضاف «لا نشعر بأن علينا ان نوضح او ان نبرر اي شيء لأننا لا ننتهك اية اتفاقيات دولية او قرارات لمجلس الامن الدولي». وتابع قائلا «نحن فقط نتبادل سلعاً مع سوريا لا يحظرها القانون الدولي».
من جهة أخرى، انتقد لافروف العقوبات الجديدة التي ينوي الغرب فرضها على ايران وأكد أن أي هجوم عسكري على إيران سيشكل «كارثة تؤدي الى اخطر العواقب»، يمكنها خصوصا ان تؤجج التوتر الحالي بين المسلمين السنة والشيعة. وقال الوزير الروسي إن «فرض مزيد من العقوبات الأحادية على ايران لا علاقة له بالرغبة في ضمان التزام النظام بالحد من الانتشار النووي». وأضاف إن «فرض عقوبات إضافية أحادية ضد ايران ليس له اية علاقة بالرغبة في ضمان التزام النظام بوقف الانتشار النووي. ويهدف بشكل كبير الى خنق الاقتصاد الإيراني وإرادة الشعب الايراني، ربما على أمل إثارة حالة من الاستياء» الشعبي.
وقال لافروف إن إيران «تنتظر الآن وفد الوكالة الدولية حتى تتمكن من مناقشة قضايا جدية. لذلك لن تسهم العقوبات التي سيتبناها الاتحاد الاوروبي في تحسين الأجواء او جعل المحادثات مثمرة اكثر». وأضاف لافروف ان «جميع العقوبات المحتملة التي يمكن ان تؤثر على سلوك ايران بخصوص الملف النووي او على تعاونها مع الوكالة الدولية قد استنفدت».
من جهة اخرى، اكد لافروف رداً على سؤال حول احتمالات شن اي عمل عسكري ضد ايران «بالنسبة لاحتمال حدوث مثل هذه الكارثة يجب طرح السؤال على الذين يؤكدون باستمرار ان هذا الخيار يبقى مطروحاً على الطاولة». وحذر لافروف من «اخطر» العواقب» لمثل هذا الهجوم، وقال انه قد يؤدي الى ازمة لاجئين وتأجيج التوتر بين الطوائف في المنطقة. وقال «لا شك لدي في ان (العمل العسكري) لن يؤدي سوى الى صب الزيت على النار في النزاع الذي لا يزال قائماً بين السنة والشيعة. ولا اعلم اين ستنتهي التفاعلات الناجمة عن ذلك». (أ ف ب)
http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionID=2054&ChannelID=48816&ArticleID=1651
حوار مع نبيل العربي:
ننفذ في سوريا مهمة غير مسبوقة في تاريخ الجامعة
جميل مطر
“2 ـ المشكلة السورية: لا ثروة سورية لدفع فواتير الحرب المحتملة
أشفق على باحثين وأكاديميين يحاولون الاقتراب من «المشكلة السورية»، وأقصد بالمشكلة السورية كل ما يتعلق بموقع سوريا في شبكة العلاقات الإقليمية والدولية. أشفق عليهم لمعرفتي بالصعوبات المحيطة بأي محاولة لفهم مكونات الدور السوري وطبيعته وعلاقته بالتكوينات السورية الداخلية. أشفق أيضا على السياسيين العرب والأجانب الذين تدفعهم مسؤولياتهم للتعامل مع السياسة الخارجية السورية، وما يتعلق بها من سياسات إقليمية. لذلك تمنيت لو أن الظروف سمحت للصديق نبيل العربي أن يبدأ مسيرته في الجامعة العربية بقضية أخرى غير قضية تتعلق بسوريا.
أظن أن الأمين العام فوجئ بعد زيارته الأولى لدمشق حين طالب تيار سوري معارض بتدخل دولي على غرار التدخل الذي حدث في ليبيا. علق على هذا الظن من جانبي بقوله: «كان هناك بعض الرافضين للتدخل الدولي في تيارات معارضة أخرى على أساس أن التدخل سيدمر البلد. حاولت أن أشرح لطالبي ومؤيدي التدخل الدولي أن الجامعة ليست في حاجة لتحويل الملف إلى مجلس الأمن. شرحت للكثيرين أن الطلب إلى الجامعة أن تدعو الأمم المتحدة للتدخل كلام وهمي ويدل على عدم دراية جيدة لأسلوب العمل في المنظمة الدولية. فالموضوع، باعتباره أزمة حادة، معروض بالفعل أمام مجلس الأمن، ثم ان مجلس الأمن ليس في حاجة إلى إحالة أي موضوع عليه. مجلس الأمن لديه صلاحيات كاملة طبقا للميثاق أن يتدخل في أي مكان في العالم حتى دون إذن من الدولة المعنية. ولا أذكر أن مجلس الأمن استأذن أحدا لإحالة ملف أزمة من الأزمات عليه».
انتقل الحديث إلى أوجه الاختلاف بين الحالة السورية والحالة الليبية. ليس خافيا في كل الأحوال أن الدول الكبرى إذا أرادت التدخل فستتدخل كما فعلت في أزمة البوسنة عندما رفض الاتحاد السوفياتي أي دور لمجلس الأمن. «هذه الدول لا تريد التدخل في سوريا لأسباب ثلاثة على الأقل، أولها أن العالم الغربي منهك، وثانيها أن أميركا وفرنسا مقبلتان على انتخابات رئاسية، وثالثها أن سوريا على عكس ليبيا لديها جيش قوي وجغرافيتها وتركيبتها مؤثرة في كل ما حولها، وخامسها أنه لا نفط في سوريا، بمعنى أنه ليس لدى سوريا الثروة الكافية التي تسمح لها بدفع فواتير الحرب للدول التي تشارك فيها». ما لم يقله صراحة هو أنه لا مصلحة مادية مغرية للدول الكبرى لتتدخل عسكرياً في سوريا.
سمعته يشرح لطالبي التدخل الدولي، وأغلبهم كان رافضا الدور العربي. قال لهم إن الأزمة في سوريا تشبه حالة رجل مريض يحتاج لعلاج. يمكن علاجه بعملية جراحية وهذا في يد مجلس الأمن، ومعه المشرط، ولكن لا أحد من أعضاء المجلس مستعد للإمساك بالمشرط وإجراء العملية. أما نحن في الجامعة العربية وعن طريق مبادرتنا فنعالج بالأدوية ومقتنعون بأنها أفضل وأكفأ وأقل تكلفة من حيث الخسائر في البشر والتداعيات المتوقعة.
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كان رأيي منذ البداية أن دمشق اختارت تعقيد مهمة نبيل العربي لأسباب يقدرها ويعرفها القريبون من النظام هناك والمتابعون بانتظام السلوك السياسي لقادة حزب البعث. وهو الرأي الذي لم يتحمس له الصديق نبيل وأصدقاء آخرون لعبوا أدوارا نبيلة خلال الأسابيع الأخيرة رغم أكثر من دليل قدم لهم.
كان رأيي أيضا أن بعض فصائل المعارضة لم تتمتع بفضيلة الصبر والنفس الطويل حين بدأت تضغط منذ الأيام الأولى للأزمة لاستدعاء التدخل الدولي. بعض هؤلاء تخيلوا سيناريوهات للتدخل الدولي لا تمت للواقع والظروف الدولية والإقليمية بصلة. لم يحللوا بالعمق الكافي تداعيات الكارثة الليبية وعواقب الوصاية الدولية المفروضة حاليا على ليبيا، وصراعات الميليشيات وبعضها بالفعل ممول من قوى عربية وأجنبية.
من ناحية أخرى رفض الكثيرون الدخول في تجربة لم تقدم عليها الجامعة من قبل، وهي إرسال فريق من المراقبين إلى سوريا، وهي الفكرة التي تبناها الأمين العام واعتبرها المدخل العربي المناسب لطمأنة الشعب السوري ولجم قوى القمع والعنف.”
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January 18th, 2012, 8:40 pm
jad said:
إسلاميو سوريا: الغواة
ساطع نور الدين
ما زالت المعارضة السورية ضائعة بين الهواية والغواية. وما زال إسلاميوها يثيرون الشبهات حولهم، وحول وعيهم ونضجهم لأداء هذا الدور التاريخي المتمثل في ازالة الاستبداد عن كاهل سوريا، وحول انتمائهم الى مجتمع كان ولا يزال يعتقد أنه أكثر تمدناً وأقل تديناً من المجتمع المصري الذي خيّب الآمال فيه عندما غزا صناديق الاقتراع وأعطى غالبيته لمن هم غرباء عن ثورته، دخلاء على حريته المستعادة وديموقراطيته الموعودة.
الملتقى الإسلامي السوري الاول الذي تأسس وانعقد في اسطنبول طوال اليومين الماضيين يتخطى الشبهة ليبرر التهمة بأن ثمة في المعارضة الإسلامية السورية من لم يلاحظ بعد أن النظام لم يسقط، ولم يدرك أنه من السابق لأوانه البحث في وراثته، او في طلب حصر إرثه، وتوزيعه حسب الأوزان والأحجام المقدرة بناء على أحلام وأوهام.
ليس الملتقى الأول من نوعه انشقاقاً عن صفوف المعارضة السورية في الخارج، وتحديداً المجلس الوطني الذي ينتمي اليه معظم الحاضرين لا سيما جماعة الاخوان المسلمين المنظمة للملتقى، والذي كان أحد مندوبيه حاضراً بصفة «مراقب» وسط ممثلي أكثر من تنظيم وشيخ وداعية إسلامي كانوا يعلنون تمايزهم ويدشنون عملية فرز مبكرة ومريبة داخل صفوف المعارضين السوريين التي لم تنتظم بعد في تحالف واحد، على الرغم من مرور عشرة أشهر على الثورة، وعلى الرغم من ضغوط الشارع السوري والخارج العربي والأجنبي من أجل الاعلان عن البديل.
ثمة حاجة مشروعة الى قياس حجم كل طرف مشارك في الثورة السورية، وثمة حشرية طبيعية لمعرفة حجم الإسلاميين الذين يبدو ان انشقاقاتهم عن النظام تعادل ان لم تكن تفوق الانشقاقات العسكرية، وتتطلب توفير غطاء لحمايتهم ورعايتهم. لكن الارتقاء بهذه الحاجة الى مستوى ملتقى إسلامي خاص، يقدم عنواناً جديداً للمعارضة السورية التي لا تحتاج اصلا الى المزيد من العناوين، التي يمكن أن تثير حفيظة المعارضين الآخرين، وتوفر مركز إغواء او محل اختراق من قبل النظام.
اما بعض الاسماء التي حضرت الملتقى وشاركت في تأسيسه، والتي كان يفترض انها نبذت كلياً من جانب المعارضة السورية وحتى من قبل الإسلاميين انفسهم، بسبب اللغة الطائفية المشينة التي استخدمتها في الأسابيع الاولى من الثورة وكادت تعيد عدداً من المعارضين الى حضن النظام، وبعض الكلمات والمداخلات التي ألقيت في ذلك الجمع الاسلامي السوري، فإنها أثارت المزيد من الشكوك التي لا يمكن تبديدها ببيان ختامي كتب كما يبدو قبل انعقاد الملتقى وتضمن التأييد والدعم للثورة والحرية والديموقراطية في سوريا.
الثورة السورية أكبر من ان يصادرها الإسلاميون، وأقوى من ان يغادروها الى ملتقى خاص، يحرض الآخرين على تشكيل ملتقياتهم الدينية والسياسية الخاصة، ويسعى الى القفز على سلطة لا يمكن أن تمر الا عبر الشارع السوري المختلف جوهرياً عن الشارع المصري او التونسي او الليبي.
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January 18th, 2012, 8:47 pm
jad said:
الانتفاضة السورية: مطالب الشعب وطريق التغيير
سلامة كيلة
تلخصت الانتفاضة السورية في مطلب إسقاط النظام، وأحياناً في اعتبار أنّها ثورة «الحرية والكرامة». وظل هذا وذاك يتكرران طوال الأشهر المنصرمة، إذ بقي الشباب يمحور هتافاته عليها. وكان يظهر كم هي قاسية وطأة الاستبداد الطويل، وتدخلات الأجهزة الأمنية، والشرطة في حياة المواطنين. وبالتالي كم كان عبء السلطة مهولاً، وممارساتها فظة. وإذا كانت بعض الفئات تريد الحرية التي تعني التحرر من السيطرة الأمنية والانغلاق الإعلامي، وتحقيق الحرية الفردية، من أجل أن تمارس حقها الطبيعي في التعبير عن ذاتها، فإنّ كتلاً كبيرة كانت تضمّن هذه الأهداف مكنوناتها، وهي التي لا تستطيع أن تصوغ مطالبها واضحة في شعارات نتيجة غياب الوعي السياسي الذي نتج من الاستبداد الطويل.
ولذلك تمحور الهدف الأساسي للانتفاضة في إسقاط النظام من أجل الحرية. أو كما تعبّر المعارضة السياسية بمختلف أطيافها: الانتقال من دولة الاستبداد إلى الديموقراطية، وأصبحت انتفاضة «حرية وكرامة». لكن هل يستوفي ذلك مطالب كلّ الطبقات الشعبية المشاركة (أو غير المشاركة بعد) في الانتفاضة؟ هل هذا ما تريده كلّ الفئات المفقرة والتي بلا عمل، أو التي لم تعد تستطيع تعليم أبنائها أو مداواتهم، أو حتى توفير أبسط سبل العيش؟
إذا كانت الطبقات الشعبية لم تعبّر عن مطالبها في الشعارات التي ترددها، أو اللافتات التي ترفعها، فليس معنى ذلك أنّ ليس لديها مطالب واضحة، كانت تكررها من وقت لآخر. وهذا يفرض أن نتلمس مشكلات تلك الطبقات لتلمّس مطالبها، لأنّها لا تطالب بأكثر من تجاوز تلك المشكلات، وليس في مقدورها أن تنتقل بـ«التجريد» إلى مستويات أخرى يوصل الوعي السياسي إليها، أو حتى تصل إلى تصوّر حول كيفية تحقيق مطالبها. لذلك تنتفض، وتسقط، ومن ثم يتوقف كل شيء على «النخب السياسية» التي تتصدّر المشهد بعدئذ.
ولذلك لا بد من استخلاص مطالب تلك الطبقات، وصوغها في أهداف تصبح هي الحاكمة لكلّ تغيير سياسي، أو تأسيس سلطة جديدة. وهنا يجب الابتعاد عن الميل الأيديولوجي أو المصلحة الضيقة لفئة اجتماعية يمكن أن تعمل على حصر المطالب في مطالبها هي بالذات. ويبرز خصوصاً وضع النخب التي تميل عادة إلى تحقيق مصالحها باسم الأمة كلّها، وبالتالي تجاهل مصالح الأمة. الأمر الذي يفرض علينا تحديد المطالب العامة للطبقات الشعبية. المطالب التي يثورون من أجلها، ويعتقد كلّ منهم بأنّ التغيير سوف يقود حتماً إلى تحقيقها. أو يجب أن يقود حتماً إلى تحقيقها. وسوف يستمر في الصراع إلى أن تتحقق.
وهنا لا بد من أن تشمل المطالب كلية البنية السياسية المجتمعية، وليس شكل السلطة السياسية فقط، أو الأشخاص الذين يحكمون فحسب. أو أن يفضي إسقاط النظام إلى تغيير البنية الاقتصادية السياسية التي فرضت التهميش الاقتصادي والمجتمعي، وكان الاستبداد الضرورة التي تسمح بذلك. وبالتالي تأسيس بنية اقتصادية سياسية تتضمن حلّاً لكلّ مشكلات تلك الطبقات، من العمل إلى الأجر إلى التعليم والصحة والضمان، إلى الثقافة والوعي، إلى الدولة الديموقراطية. البديل إذن، يجب أن يتضمن حل مشكلات مجتمعية وليس تغيير شكل سلطة.
من هذا المنظور أرى أنّ المطالب يمكن أن تختصر في النقاط التالية: 1) بناء دولة مدنية حديثة تقوم على إرادة الشعب ويحكمها دستور مدني ديموقراطي، وتنطلق من الحريات العامة، ومن فصل السلطات، واستقلالية القضاء، وتقوم على أساس النظام البرلماني. 2) حق تأسيس الأحزاب والنقابات وكلّ أشكال الاتحادات التي تعبّر عن مصالح فئات اجتماعية مصونة في الدستور وتخضع للإشهار فقط. 3) تحقيق المواطنة الكاملة، وإقرار قانون مدني للأحوال الشخصية. 4) إقرار الحقوق القومية للأكراد والأقليات الأخرى، والتي تتمثل في الحق في التكلم باللغة الأم ونشر الثقافة والتدريس بها. 5) محاسبة كلّ الذين نهبوا الاقتصاد الوطني استناداً إلى قوة السلطة وعبر تعميم الفساد، ومصادرة أموالهم لكي تسهم في إعادة بناء الاقتصاد الوطني. 6) إعادة النظر في الاقتصاد من أجل حلّ مشكلات البطالة (خصوصاً بين الشباب) والأجور، انطلاقاً من إنهاض الزراعة والصناعة وفق خطط حكومية، وبمشاركة الرأسمال الخاص. 7)مجانية التعليم مع بنائه على أسس علمية، وتحقيق الضمان الاجتماعي والصحي لكل المواطنين.
التنمية المتوازنة بين المحافظات، والاستفادة من التنوّع في الظروف فيها. 9) التأكيد على إعادة بناء الجيش لكي يكون قادراً على تحرير الجولان والتصدي للهجمة الإمبريالية. والتأكيد على حلّ مسألة احتلال الإسكندرون من خلال الحوار مع تركيا. 10) إعادة بناء الأجهزة الأمنية لكي تكون معنية بالوطن وليس في المجال السياسي المباشر، انطلاقاً من إعادة صياغة «عقيدتها الأمنية»، وإعادة تأهيل كادرها، وإخضاعها للمراقبة الشعبية.
تلك مطالب عامة، تتضمن مطالب كلّ الطبقات الشعبية، وهي الأساس في انتفاضة هذه الطبقات، والتي أصبح مدخلها هو الهدف العام الذي طرحته هذه الطبقات، أي إسقاط النظام. بمعنى أنّ إسقاط النظام هو الطريق لتحقيق هذه المطالب التي تحقق الحرية والكرامة والعدالة الاجتماعية. ولا بد لكلّ حزب يتنطح للوصول إلى السلطة من أن يعمل على تحقيقها، أو ينكشف ويحاسب انطلاقاً منها. ولا بد من أن تكون أيضاً في أساس اختيارات الأفراد للحزب الذي تعتقد بأنّه يحققها. وبالتالي يمكن أن تتمرّد عليه إذا لم يستطع تحقيقها، أو تجاهلها وفرض مصالح ضيقة لفئات أخرى.
في كلّ الأحوال، لا بد من مرحلة انتقالية. ولقد تحقق ذلك بأشكال مختلفة في تونس ومصر، وليبيا، اي البلدان التي انتصرت الثورات فيها. لكن تلك التجارب، التي أوضحت أهمية المرحلة الانتقالية، أوضحت كذلك أنّ تحقيق الانتقال من نظام إلى آخر لا يكون حينما تستمر بنية النظام ذاته، والطبقة الرأسمالية المسيطرة ذاتها، وأنّ الأمر يحتاج إلى إعادة صوغ بنية الدولة، وإعادة الحيوية السياسية إلى المجتمع. الأمر الذي يفرض التركيز في المرحلة الانتقالية على تأهيل الدولة، وتحقيق مطالب عاجلة للطبقات الشعبية. في سياق الإعداد لانتخابات تؤسس لشرعية سياسية جديدة.
لذلك لا بد من حكومة انتقالية تتألف من شخصية معارضة ذات كفاءة، وتحظى بموافقة عامة من الشباب وأحزاب المعارضة، مهمتها: إعادة هيكلة الأجهزة الأمنية، وإعادة هيكلة الإعلام لكي يعبّر عن المجتمع، وهيكلة بنية الدولة ومحاسبة الفاسدين فيها، والتركيز على الكفاءة، وإعادة هيكلة القضاء وطرد الفاسدين فيه، واعتماد المهنية والكفاءة. كذلك من مهماتها إطلاق حق تشكيل الأحزاب، وتأسيس الصحف والإعلام المرئي والمسموع، وتحرير النقابات والسماح بتشكيل نقابي دون قيود أو هيمنة، وصياغة دستور جديد يطرح على الاستفتاء خلال سنة.
كذلك يجب دراسة زيادة الأجور بما يساوي ثلاثة أضعاف الحد الأدنى الحالي، والبدء بتوظيف العاطلين من العمل، وتخصيص أجر حد أدنى إلى حين توفّر العمل، وبدء معالجة الوضع الزراعي والصناعي والتعليمي والصحي.
هدف الحكومة الانتقالية إذن هو التمهيد لشرعية جديدة تأتي عبر الانتخاب، لكن بعد أن يتأسس واقع سياسي جديد، يعبّر عن الطبقات الشعبية ذاتها التي انتفضت، وليس عن أحزاب ومصالح هي مصالح السلطة الحالية، وأحزاب لا تختلف عنها كثيراً، وتمتلك رؤية تكرّس الواقع الاقتصادي القائم. أحزاب تأتي لكي تعبّر عن الرأسمالية ذاتها المسيطرة الآن، أو عن إحدى فئاتها بتقزيم أخرى. فالمسألة تتمثل في إسقاطها كلّها، لأنّ النمط الاقتصادي الذي تكرسه هو السبب في كل الفقر والبطالة والتهميش، وانهيار الزراعة والصناعة والتعليم والصحة.
لقد سيطرت الرأسمالية ذاتها، من خلال المجلس العسكري في مصر، ومن خلال الحكومة الدستورية في تونس، على المرحلة الانتقالية، فأعادت إنتاج النظام ذاته بأسماء أحزاب جديدة، ووجوه جديدة. فلم تتأسس دولة مدنية ديموقراطية، بل جرى اختزال الديموقراطية بالانتخابات، وجرى التمسك بالنمط الاقتصادي ذاته الذي كان قبل الثورة. وجرى كذلك الإصرار على صحة ذاك النمط، وبالتالي تجاهل مطالب العاطلين من العمل والفقراء. نحن لا بد من أن نتلمس صيغة مرحلة انتقالية تفضي إلى التغيير العميق، وهو ما يتجاوز مصالح ومطامح كل الأحزاب القائمة. ويفرض العمل على تأسيس جديد.
لهذا، لا بد الآن من التركيز على توسيع مشاركة الطبقات الشعبية انطلاقاً من فهم يقوم على أنّها هي التي يجب أن يرسم أفق المستقبل، دون خوف أو تخوّف أو اتكاء على أي خارج. فالصراع هو بين هؤلاء والسلطة التي تمثّل فئة نهب وأثرت، فاستحوذت على الثروة من خلال تسلطها السلطوي. الأساس هو الثروة والسلطة، لذلك، الشعب يريد إسقاط النظام.
* كاتب عربي
http://al-akhbar.com/node/30478
January 18th, 2012, 8:51 pm
zoo said:
Iran and Syria Connection: President Obama’s WMD?
By L. Vincent Poupard
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-syria-connection-president-obamas-wmd-223500273.html
COMMENTARY | The White House is pressing evidence that points to the potential of Iran supplying Syria with weapons to battle the uprising, according to the AFP. As a political scientist, I can understand the signs, but am still leery about committing to the idea. President Barack Obama has to insure these points of evidence to not add up to his version of “Weapons of Mass Destruction.”
While some of the evidence has not been released, most likely due to national security, the White House has stated that Qasem Soleimani was in Syria this month. Soleimani is the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds force. Fox News has pointed out a statement by White House National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor as this being the greatest evidence so far of Iran trying to help the Syrian government battle the uprising. Fox News is also reporting a statement from Syria in which the government denies the claim of support.
Even though President Obama’s connection between Iran and Syria makes sense, the government also gave us a clear picture less than a decade ago about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We went into Iraq with the perceived intention of making sure Saddam Hussein would never use those reported weapons. As we all know, WMDs were never found in the country and the conspiracies began to flow about the real reason we were in the country.
President Obama has to be one hundred percent sure about Iran supplying weapons to Syria. Chances are good, this could lead to a showing of military force by the U.S. and/or U.N. in Syria to help the oppressed revolutionaries. He has to ensure all the duck are in a row and all of the ducks are real. Of course, action in Syria could easily end with military action in Iran.
With troops coming home from Afghanistan and Iraq, the White House, Pentagon and President Obama have to have solid evidence to convince the American people of a potential hazard in the Middle East. If we enter the region without valid reason, we might find another instance of our men and women going for war over faulty evidence. If we come to this type of impasse again, people may lose faith in military planners.
January 18th, 2012, 9:01 pm
Tara said:
Al Assad needs to accept harsh reality
Syrian president’s stubborn attitude is ruining the economy and pushing the country towards a bloody civil war
By Joseph A. Kechichian, Special to Gulf NewsPublished: 00:00 January 19, 2012
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One simply wondered whether Israel was ready to reward its Syrian allies who, for lack of a better term, ensured Israeli security by imposing an iron-clad umbrella on and around the Golan Heights. When one contemplates that few shots were fired along this contested border since 1973, one wonders what was Syria’s national defence strategy, and why Iran, its heretofore ally that insists on liberating Palestine, has not raised the issue.
To be sure, Iran has much to lose if the Syrian crisis evolves into a full blown civil war, which is why few understand Teheran’s brinkmanship that literally ‘expelled’ the USS John Stennis (one of America’s 13 aircraft carriers that give Washington its unmatched global capabilities) from the Gulf in the most amateurish way possible. Threatening to close the vital Strait of Hormuz is, to put it simply, a dangerous initiative and one expects better from savvy Iranians.
One must also touch on Turkish policies, which hold the key to resolving the latest Syria crisis, and ask what happened to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s repeated pleas to President Al Assad to stop the killings. Erdogan extended his now famous two-week notices so often that one is puzzled by Ankara’s delay tactics.
What is Erdogan up to? Is he basking in the shadows waiting for the call to create a neutral zone along the Turkish-Syrian borders? Does Ankara have an understanding with western powers as to when to impose a no-fly-zone over Syria that would, by sheer necessity, involve Nato bases in Turkey? Was he waiting for a League request to join it in sending troops to Syria as proposed by the Qatari Emir Shaikh Hamad Bin Khalifa Al Thani?
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Dr. Joseph A. Kechichian is a commentator and author of several books on Gulf affairs.
http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/al-assad-needs-to-accept-harsh-reality-1.967774
January 18th, 2012, 9:16 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Dear Jad,
Unfortunately as a direct result of over 40 years of tyranny, coherence is tough to achieve right away. As for the flag, it is a symbol, many nations change elements in their flag to reflect the changes of their time (Star spangled, Maple leaf, Union jack …). As for our anthem, Khalil Mardam Bey wrote a beautiful anthem and hearing it still to this day give me goose bumps, but how can we say Humat Al Diar 3alikoum el Salam, when they are the ones demolishing our home.
It took a lot more than non violence to take down the Nazis, 12 million people that died in concentration camps are a testament to that. While the stories of Schindler, Ann Frank and brave souls like them are an inspiration and proof that in the midst of evil, humanity can survive; however the Nazi killing machine was not stopped by Schindler or Ann Frank.
As for working with the state, Jad you can’t work with the devil and not expect him to screw you. This regime had ample opportunities in the early stages to work towards that, they chose not and continue to do so. When Bashar in his latest speech is still jabbering about how this is all a conspiracy by everybody in the world, and still to this day not take any responsibility for what has transpired in Syria is delusional, and treasonous.
January 18th, 2012, 9:19 pm
Ghufran said:
The lack of a reasonable political deal in Syria serves the hawks on both sides but it does not serve Syria. The opposition in particular needs to focus on weakening Assad by winning the so-called fence sitters,a term I am borrowing from hitaan blog. Without giving those fence sitters a rescue pill they can swallow,no peaceful solution will be found and this crisis will take years to end,a bloody end I have to say.
A starting point is accepting the undeniable fact that Syria is different and that Syrians are divided along sectarian and political lines. This acceptance will open the door for a compromise which must include forming an inclusive government from all willing parties and groups. When all is said and done,people will admit that attacking every Syrian with any possible link to the regime,including army units that did not necessarily engage in the killing of civilians,was a terrible strategic mistake. People,especially those who are neutral or even sympathetic to the regime, were less opposed to targeting security forces that were identified by locals as assassins and torturers,but the same people were alarmed when they realize that armed militia hit men were on a campaign to kill everybody they did not like including army officers and civilians who they accused of being regime collaborators. The armed men in Syria from both sides can terrorize and control the streets but they are losing the hearts and minds of many Syrians who simply had enough.
January 18th, 2012, 9:31 pm
Ghufran said:
الرياض- يعود اهتمام العرب بالإبل إلى مئات السنين، غير أن السعوديين ينظمون سنويا مهرجانا للمفاضلة بين سفن الصحراء وفقا لعدة مقاييس، أهمها الجمال.
ففي منطقة نفود الصحراوية شمال الدولة الخليجية الغنية، ينظم مهرجان “أم رقيبة لمزايين الإبل،” وهو عبارة عن مسابقة جمال تضم 480 مشاركا من السعودية ودول الخليج.
ويقدر عاملون ومشاركون حجم سوق الإبل في منطقة أم رقيبة بنحو ملياري ريال، موزعة على أكثر من 5000 آلاف ناقة وبعير من الإبل المشاركة والتي تعتبر الأفضل والأجمل في العالم كله.
وبلغت قيمة الصفقات في مبيعات الإبل خلال مهرجان هذا العام أكثر من 500 مليون ريال، إذ تتجاوز عمليات البيع عشرات الملايين يومياً في المهرجان، بينما كانت أعلى صفقة بقيمة 150 مليون ريال.
January 18th, 2012, 10:02 pm
Ghufran said:
تابعت الصحافة الفرنسية مستجدات الازمة السورية ونشرت الفيغارو مقابلة مع المعارض السوري ميشيل كيلو الموجود في باريس.
– المعارض كيلو الذي يقدم نفسه مستقلا عن التنظيمات المعارضة وخاصة المجلس الوطني يرى ان اهم الوسائل الكفيلة باسقاط النظام هو المجتمع المدني ويدعو ” لجان القاعدة” الموجودة في الداخل الى حيازة السلطة.
– بشان انقسام المعارضة يرى كيلو ان التنظيمات التي ظهرت للمعارضة كالمجلس الوطني في الخارج ولجان التنسيق في الداخل كانت دائما متاخرة مقابل تسارع الحركة الشعبية التاريخية.
– ويعتبر كيلو ان انشاء تنظيمات عسكرية لاسقاط النظام غير مجد نظرا لتماسك الجيش النظامي وقوته. وركز على ان اسقاط النظام يتم بالحوار الوطني مع الجميع بما في ذلك النظام.
– ويوافق كيلو ان البلد الان في مازق لان النظام غير قادر على الحسم لصالحه والمتظاهرون لا يستطيعون اسقاطه.
– وعن اقتراحاته للحل يرى المعارض اليساري كيلو ان هناك قوة جديدة صاعدة تدفع باتجاه اقناع المحايدين للانخراط في الحراك الثوري لتكوين لجان قاعدية في كل مكان هم من سيشكلون الحكومة السورية مستقبلا مع المجلس الوطني والاطراف الاخرى في الداخل ونوه الى ان اغلب اعضاء المجلس الوطني مغتربون منذ زمن وغير معروفين كثيرا من الشعب السوري.
– وعن قدرة الشعب السوري على الاستمرار في الاحتجاج اجاب كيلو بحماس ” حتى نهاية التاريخ ” فاذا ما توقفت الثورة فسنشهد مجازر مشابهة لما حدث في حماة عام 1982 حيث سقط 46 الف قتيل”.
– ويعتقد كيلو ان من الضروري رحيل بشار الاسد عن السلطة في سوريا كمفتاح للحل.
– وعن سبب عودته الى سوريا بالرغم من القمع اجاب بانه ” من العار الخوف من العودة والناس يموتون كل يوم من اجل الحرية”.
ترجمة : نور النجار/ باريس
January 18th, 2012, 10:08 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
It is well proven ,again and again that wisdom and arms are the best way to prevent dictatorship and support democracy, the judicial system has to be independent and not under the control of the executive branch.
The balance between the power of the goverment and the rights of the people,should be defended always, neither the goverment nor the people , should be stronger than the other,what will protect the people from the abuse of power by the goverment? owning weapons is the best way,if the ruler tilted toward dictatorship the people not the army not the security forces will straighten him, the army is in te hands of the ruler, the people must be able to defend themselves.
We in this country have said it ,power corrupt and too much power ,too much corruption.
Assad stays prez,and MB control the goverment is wrong , wrong ,wrong.We want neither Assad nor MB,the people decide not Assad or Iran .
In Zabadani the presence of FSA helped this truce,I still do not trust the regime,the expected massacre would have been horrible, the regime does not feel the troops are loyal,and worried about defections,it would have taken 10,000 soldier to control Zabadani area,with only temporary control,it could have been a mistake to go on with the massacre.The unites which are sent to Zabadani were under the control of Asef Shawkat, not Maher Assad,so Asef is responsible for this truce,
January 18th, 2012, 10:15 pm
Ghufran said:
I do not think the regime can afford to lose in any spot,Zabadani or other areas,because such loss will trigger a domino effect that will deprive the regime from the power it needs if fighting parties finally agree to talk peace. Politicians from the SNC and the CNB are not as effective as those who stayed in Syria and paid dearly since March and before.
The regime may be able to convince some members of both councils to negotiate but that may not win the approval of fighters on the ground who are not likely to accept any deal that does not include the departure of Assad and most of his security and army chiefs,whether those fighters can force their will on the rest of Syrians is another story. For that exact reason the regime is not likely to allow armed militia to control Zabadani,we my have to accept another wave of violence before fighting parties realize that they can not win.
A quick victory for one party over the other may temporarily end blood shed but it is not a long term solution,only a balanced government with real checks and balances can survive.
January 18th, 2012, 10:54 pm
Ghufran said:
As if the situation in Syria is not complicated enough:
أعلن عضو المكتب السياسي لحزب يكيتي الكردي في سورية فؤاد عليكو أمس أن أحزاب «المجلس الوطني الكردي» «علقت عضويتها في كافة أطر المعارضة السورية» على خلفية عدم التوصل إلى تفاهم مع الكتل المعارضة الثلاث بشأن الحصول على «اعتراف دستوري بوجود الشعب الكردي كقومية أصيلة في البلاد وإيجاد حل ديمقراطي للقضية الكردية في سورية على قاعدة حق تقرير المصير بإطار سورية الموحدة».
January 18th, 2012, 11:34 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Syrian Nationalist Party – الحزب القومي السوري
Metaz K M Aldendeshe معتز محمد عبد الرحمن آ غا الدندشي
Chief Strategist
“……Also Wednesday, representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood claimed to have rejected a proposal floated by Iran that that group be given control over the Syrian government in exchange for its agreement that Assad remain president…..”
That shows the nobilities of Syrian Moslem brotherhood, belated, after Khaddam stunt. Don’t ever forget Hama and betray the souls of the innocent Moslem women, children and brave men, they are watching and cheering for you now, they are alive in another dimension and are feeling your vibration now. Show the “Shia Munafekeen” of Iran, Shia of the world, that Syrian Moslems are noble, not tradable commodity like SOFA Shia of Airaq. Muwaiya and Yazid would have not only said firm NO, but done a whole lot more to the infidel who weakened Islam by their arrogance. Desperado, when their puppets in Syria and Lebanon vanish from power, and Premier Netanyahu drop for visit in Damascus, Cairo, Beirut, Bahrain, Qatar…it is over for them baby. The Next Item on the agenda after removing the puppets: منظمة معاوية الإسلامية الدولية
Here send this man an invitation now:
http://www.pmo.gov.il/PMOEng
What is Erdogan up to? = Well he is ill, possibly terminally, Syria is the last thing on his mind, he is worrying about saving own life now.
Is he basking in the shadows waiting for the call to create a neutral zone along the Turkish-Syrian borders? = No, he simply doing the prudent thing and just holding out for Qatar to deliver more cash, after all, once this dry out, no more cash for turkey, once Assad and HA is out, the cash flow to A:LEBANON, B:Syria, C: CAIRO and D: JORDAN. I think Qatari is running out of cash now, they pissed it, gambled it on a soccer game. But I do respect the Leader and what he is doing to his country and the region. When it comes to Arabs, my favorite personality is Turki Al-Faisal, don’t ask me why, I just like him, then The Dubai ruler and some of the Sabah’s. And despite all that I said about Abdullah in anger ( and I have every right to be angry), I will be a liar if I did not say that I like him too, for some odd reason, even though, he done so much ugly things, my favorite picture of him in Blue boldly striped suite and no Kaffieh.
“…..Russia wont give ‘the west’ any UN resolution for a military mission, they have no choice but to do it on their own while France won’t accept that unless something really big happens:…”
That is immoral. One can appreciate Russia stand on military intervention, but they cannot just sit and watch Syrians being genocidal liquidated by the murderous Baathist regime. They must take the lead, if they really care, in having the U.N. approve a resolution that will outline mandated reforms the regime must take under strict U.N. supervised, monitored and time-lined conditions, reform that will bring Syria to confirm with United nation Charter and various International law that protect the citizens and prevents genocide. It is absurd that in this day of age, a puppet for a genocidal regime, a bunch of war criminals will be allowed to maintain foreign bank accounts all over the world, accounts that are filled from stolen national wealth and treasury. It is Russia duty to take the lead in having this human right abuse issue resolved either by assisting in passing a strong and effective U.N. resolution or send own troops to Syria, either Russian or a coalition headed by Russian forces not to protect the outlawed and clearly genocidal regime, but to protect the Syrian People, it is about protecting human lives and not selling more weapon for Russia, that is really what should be the goal of Russian policy in Syria. After all, trades between a free market Syria, at peace with Israel, a recipient of billions in aid from Arab states, can provides Russian economy and businessmen with astronomical economic and business opportunities, far more that the peddling arm trade delivery once in a decade. Russia, needs to not repeat Iran mistake in Syria, it burned all its bridges and relied, like that in Lebanon on a single Shia force. That Iranian strategy alienated the majority of population in both countries. Russia should look to the future full of opportunity, far more than what this criminal mafia now illegally ruling can offer it.
If Russia is worried about losing Syria’s footprint (bases), that is not going to happen, especially, if Russia is the country that aid in freeing Syria from shackle of the mafia, it will be appreciated and co-opted. Also, having a good term with all Syrians, unlike Iran short-sidedness, it will insure that Russia will have the Middle East gate wide open for them.
Let’s face it, the Middle East is heading into an era of “Peace, Prosperity, Progress” (that is SNP motto by the way, so you illiterate 3 letters fronts don’t steal it, or else), Weapons are no longer the commodity Russia will sell, but construction, expertise, and the likes, and there are far more future and wealth in that that selling a dozen jets every decade to small country like Syria. The west is desperate for cash, so they taken this strategy, Russia should immolate that, rather, formulate an economic future that cash in on developments.
@99 Ghufran
Right on the money.
The Baathists should be out, segregated and banned, separated and singled out for the Haig. A Provisional Assembly is installed for six months, tasked with setting up new constitution, or bringing back the one of 1958, or drawing on it. Setting up Political Party and Election Law, free the economy; dismiss the Mukhabrat apparatus to the Haig as well, send home most low ranking Government officials replaced with revolutionary fighters and able administrator who graduated from Western Countries or have work experience in the West / Gulf countries. Then after six months, there will be yet another six months period for preparatory and campaigning for all offices, liberal elections and party laws, let all campaign and whoever win, from local, to Muhafaza, to first free parliament, to President will be the Legal Representative, the legit deal. No 3 letters foreign backed org, not even SNP should take permanent positions, except on that 6 months provisional period, if qualified to carry on the transition. And you know SNP is a middle line of the opposition, so you can bet on fairness and equality, along with experience, ideas and leadership. SNP can deliver the foundation of New Modern Syrian State.
We wants every Syrians to sleep in peace, live every day in joy, and look to the future with abundance of optimism and progress, love his Syria for the great opportunity and prosperity it will offer every Syrian. Let all Syrians be proud again to be one.
Tahiya Souria. Next year in Homs…
January 18th, 2012, 11:34 pm
jad said:
The propaganda machine of SOHR badly exposed after 10 months of daily propaganda and lies…Rami Abd Alrahman, their ‘director’ who has been quoted every day around the world in every news paper is not a real name! Amazing!! they couldn’t become clean earlier, they were ‘busy’ lying:
Syrian Observatory for Human Rights
Apparently, just today, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights–aware that their story is going to come out–distributed this statement to journalists:
“Dear Sir/Madam
We would like to apologise for any confusion that you may be currently experiencing with regards to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR).
We would like to take this opportunity to give you some background information for your benefit.
Firstly, there is NO individual by the name of Rami Abdulrahman. This is just an alias that was being used by all SOHR members and mainly by the founders of the SOHR when articles were being originally published.
There is however a gentleman based in Coventry whose primary profession is installing satellite dishes who volunteered at the SOHR in late 2010. This gentleman is called Mr. Osama Ali Suleiman and as a volunteer he contributed in publishing the Arabic language news articles on the SOHR website syriahr.net. This was the full extend of his remit and contribution, as a volunteer of this organisation. It is worth noting that Mr. Osama is unable to communicate in the English language and only had a very modest level of education in Syria.
In August 2011 the board of trustees asked Mr. Osama to cease publishing news articles onto the syriahr.net website as it was alleged that he had established links with Mr. Rifaat Al Assad (the uncle of the current Syrian President Bashar Al Assad). The very nature of the articles being published were also controversial as they were not verified by any other member of SOHR and they referred to incidents and deaths suffered by the Syrian regime security forces. The reasons as to why this raised suspicions is because the Observatory does not have any links with Syrian regime members in order to be able to state or verify any such incidents.
When Mr. Osama was asked to give up his volunteer post he retaliated by changing all the username and password details of the syriahr.netwebsite so that only he could access it and publish material and subsequently declared himself chairman. He started using the Rami Abdulrahman alias which the rest of the trustees abandoned as it was decided after the eruption of the Syrian uprising on the 15 march 2011 that, in the interest of transparency, only real names were to be used from that point on when communicating with the press.
The rest of the organisation decided that due to the swift developing nature of the Syrian uprising no time should be wasted in altercating with Mr. Osama as the website that he was controlling doesn’t ever hold any useful/recent information on Syria and that he would not be able to actually engage in any activity with the English speaking press. As a result syriahr.org was established and it gets regularly updated (in both Arabic and English) with the developments on the ground in Syria.
Ignoring Mr. Osama for this length of time appears to have been a misjudgment by the rest of the SOHR members as it appears that Mr. Osama has since sought and acquired some support from fellow friends in order to boost his claims and spoil the reputation of the SOHR. We are deeply concerned as we have been informed that Mr. Osama himself is a member of the PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party) and these friends are suspected to be affiliated with same organisation as well.
Further proof of the isolation of Mr. Osama is given by the fact that he currently has no operational team and that he acts authoritatively with no peers to verify, support or challenge his work.
You will already be aware that the SOHR is London based. This is because the majority of our members are based in London whereas Mr. Osama is solely based in Coventry. We would like to take this opportunity to confirm that the Trustees of the SOHR are:
* Mr. Fadi Al-Haddad (Co-founder of SOHR, Based in London)
* Mrs. Maya Fateh (Co-founder of the SOHR and Writer – Now in Syria)
* Dr. Lina Jamoul (Team Leader with Citizens UK in East London)
* Mr. Husam Aldin Mohammed (Chief Editor of the Alquds Newspaper in London)
* Mr. Mohammed Antabli (Businessman and Writer Based in London)
* Mr. Ghassan Ibrahim (Chairman of the Arab Global Network in London)
* Mr. Abdul Sayed Omar (Project Manager & Human Rights Activist Based in Wolverhampton and Works in London)
* Dr. Mousab Azzawi (Consultant Pathologist & Human Rights Activist Based in London)
We at the SOHR are now seeking legal advice and are preparing to take legal action against Mr. Osama whilst we remain committed to our cause of flagging human rights abuses committed in Syria to the international community and media.
Should you need any further information or clarifications please do not hesitate to contact us.
Yours faithfully;
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (London)”.
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2012/01/syrian-observatory-for-human-rights_18.html
January 19th, 2012, 12:15 am
ann said:
UN official expresses concern about settlement violence, Gaza border crossing – 2012-01-19
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/19/c_122603798.htm
UNITED NATIONS, Jan. 18 (Xinhua) — Valerie Amos, UN under- secretary-general for humanitarian affairs and emergency relief coordinator, said here Wednesday that she is concerned about certain developments in the occupied Palestinian lands, such as settler violence and the closing of the Karni border crossing into Gaza.
Her statement came as she addressed reporters outside the chambers of the UN Security Council. Amos had just briefed the council in closed-door consultations about the humanitarian conditions faced by Palestinians, at the request of Arab states and the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM).
“I alerted the council to my concerns about, particularly the impact of higher levels of settlement violence,” she said. “We have seen an increase in the levels of settler violence which had an impact on Palestinians, but also has an impact on Israeli settlers as well and I also alerted the council in relation to East Jerusalem to my concerns about the proposals for an additional settlement which would cut off East Jerusalem from the West Bank.”
Israel has continued to build settlements in Palestinian territory, and recently issued plans to build a tourist complex in the Palestinian neighborhood of Silwan in East Jerusalem.
Amos also discussed the situation in the Gaza Strip, an area Israel has blockaded since Hamas took over in 2007. Israel has said it has loosened the blockade restrictions.
Amos said she briefed the council on the “continued blockade of Gaza and the impact on economic development in Gaza.” She voiced her concern to the 15-member body for international peace and security on the closing of the Karni commercial crossing that connects Israel and Gaza.
She told reporters that the dismantling of the crossing “means that commercial activity into Gaza and in particular exports coming out of Gaza into the West Bank and Israel will decrease, which again will have the impact of de-developing Gaza rather than developing Gaza.”
Mohammed Loulichki, permanent representative of Morocco to the UN and the Arab representative on the Security Council, also addressed reporters outside the council chambers.
Loulichki said that there was a “convergence of views” in the council that Israeli settlement building impedes the lives of Palestinians. He said that “this settlement activity has to end and Israel has to show the political will and the intentions to resume the negotiations because all of the efforts have to be put in place in order to promote the resumption of the negotiations without which we cannot reach the global peace and particularly the establishment of a viable, independent state of Palestine with East Jerusalem as its capital.”
Preliminary discussions are underway in Jordan to try and restart the direct negotiations between Israel and Palestine that have been stalled since October 2010.
The Palestinian permanent observer to the UN, Riyad Mansour who joined Loulichki, said that there has been widespread agreement in the council that the settlements are detrimental to the peace process, but that one country had obstructed the creation of a statement or resolution on the topic.
Despite these road blocks, Mansour said, Palestine will continue to raise the issue in the council.
“We are continuing with these efforts as an investment in helping the efforts in Amman, Jordan to break the deadlock by removing the major obstacle in the path of peace which is the settlement activity,” he said.
Following the Arab diplomats, Ron Prosor, permanent representative of Israel to the UN, spoke to reporters about events in the Security Council. He questioned the council’s ability to prioritize discussion of issues.
“I’m not surprised that the Security Council instead of dealing with those pressing issues that I think are on the agenda like Iran, like Syria, like Iraq and like Libya, is dealing with this and taking really precious time from the most important issues,” he said.
He rejected any allegations that Israel is not putting its settlement activities on the agenda at the Jordan talks. However, he said that he does not believe that settlements are the major problem preventing a final peace settlement between Israel and Palestine.
January 19th, 2012, 12:20 am
ann said:
Turkey vows to strengthen economic ties with Iran, regional countries – 2012-01-19
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/19/c_122603775.htm
ANKARA, Jan. 18 (Xinhua) — Turkish environment ministry expressed the country’s determination to strengthen its commercial and economic relations with Iran and other regional countries, the semi-official Anatolia news agency reported on Wednesday.
The ministry’s statement came after a close-door meeting between Turkish Environment and Urbanization Minister Erdogan Bayraktar and visiting Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi on Wednesday afternoon.
Turkey and Iran plan to jointly set new roadmaps in a variety of fields with special focus on commercial and economic relations, said the environment ministry, adding that trade between the two countries hit 10.7 billion U.S. dollars in 2010 and 14.9 billion U. S. dollars in the first 11 months of 2011.
Earlier on Wednesday afternoon, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan also held talks with the visiting Iranian foreign minister. A press conference, attended by Salehi and Turkish officials, will be held on Thursday afternoon.
According to the schedule, Salehi will also meet with Turkish President Abdullah Gul in Ankara on Thursday.
Anatolia news agency quoted sources close to the prime minister as saying Erdogan and Salehi discussed regional issues including Iran’s nuclear program, situation in Iraq and Syria, as well as bilateral relations.
January 19th, 2012, 12:23 am
ann said:
Russia says will stand firm with China on Syria – Wed Jan 18, 2012
Russia will offer Washington no explanation for arms deliveries to Syria and together with China will prevent the U.N. Security Council from approving any military intervention in the conflict-torn nation, its foreign minister said on Wednesday.
Using his annual news conference to draw lines in the sand on Syria, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said veto-holding Security Council members Russia and China would stand firm against foreign intervention.
“We will insist – and we have an understanding with our Chinese colleagues that this is our common position – that these fundamental points be retained in any decision that may be taken by the U.N. Security Council,” Lavrov said.
“If somebody intends to use force … it will be on their conscience. They will not receive any authority from the Security Council,” said Lavrov, who also emphasized that Russia and China oppose any sanctions against Syria.
He said Western members of the Security Council “are categorically determined to exclude from the resolution the phrase that (says) nothing in it can be interpreted as allowing the use of force.”
The United States said it had raised concerns about the ship with Russia, but Lavrov said there was no need for an explanation.
“We don’t consider it necessary to explain ourselves or justify ourselves, because we are not violating any international agreements or any (U.N.) Security Council resolutions,” Lavrov told an annual news conference.
The U.S. envoy to the United Nations, Susan Rice, said on Tuesday that the United States “would have very grave concern about arms flows into Syria from any source” and that it was unfortunate there was no U.N. arms embargo on Syria.
Russia says such an embargo would cut off supplies to the government while enabling armed opponents to receive weapons illegally. Lavrov repeated on Wednesday that Russia and China oppose any sanctions on Syria.
“The red line is quite clear: we will not support any sanctions, because unilateral sanctions have been imposed without any consultation with Russia or China,” he said.
January 19th, 2012, 12:39 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Lavrove said “if foreign intervention occured Russia will not do anything but such decision will not pass through UN SC”
It is obvious Russia will not interfere in such action.this is bad news to the syrian regime.
January 19th, 2012, 12:47 am
Syrian Commando said:
Zionist propoganda service announces a “ceasefire” on behalf of a sovereign state against a band of terrorists that never happened.
Then said zionist propaganda service announces that the ceasefire is broken when it is clear from CNN et al. that the army control almost all of the Zabadani. There are only a few areas remaining where wounded/hiding terrorists are being sheltered by local traitors.
The government has made the decision that even if there is only a pile of rubble remaining of these areas, they will be cleaned. The Zabadani is a strategic site.
There are no ceasefires amongst lions and mice.
#106
majedkhaldoun,
Sorry terrorist, you’re wrong. It isn’t bad news at all, because if a war were to be launched on us, it will CERTAINLY not be contained. You’re misreading Russian diplomacy. The only hope they have is eroding the army over a long period of time, your zionist vipers are helping them do that. But their time is almost up.
If the arab snakes were smart, they would extend the stupid observer protocol agreement, but I predict that they will pull off the greedy move and cancel it. I can guaratee you there would be no more agreements at that stage and Assad will announce something in the works that your scum bastards have been fearing for some time.
Then, it will be all over inside Syria, but just beginning, perhaps closer to where you’re hiding.
January 19th, 2012, 12:51 am
Khalid Tlass said:
@ IRANIAN WIMP COMMANDO
Majoosi, you’re going down. Alongwith your impotent clown Ayatullahs, they won’t get any more babies to sexually abuse in their hawzas in Qum and Najaf.
January 19th, 2012, 4:41 am
Juergen said:
Khalid
Please leave the labeling of other nominations within islam to the Wahabis, or to the devine itself, it will only portray you as an ignorant human being. I dont know if you know any shiite, try to understand where they come from. The earliest generation of islam fought bitterly over the matter of succession. Aysha fought against Ali, 10.000 were killed, just years after the death of the prophet of islam, by people who knew him and the message directly. How can you judge and know better today if even the ones married to the prophet or the relatives did not know and killed each over this matter?
Omar ibn al Khatab gave his followers this advice: what you dont know you will hate soon.
Khaled, the alawites are themselves victims of the Assads. With a sunnisation of the alawite religion the Assads tried to eliminate the hate and the suspicion alawites have always been experiencing.
You know better than me that the regime depends not only on the christian minorities or the alawites only, so many sunnis are part of the game and willingly support the regime. If you make it a question of the religion you fall in the holes the regime has digged. I think that the majority of people always will adopt to any regime or government as a reflex to survive. Few individuals have the courage to confront those evil doers, and believe me there are quite a lot of alawites out there who are part of the uprise.
January 19th, 2012, 6:05 am
Revlon said:
بيان من مواطنون علويون تضامنا مع الثورة السورية
Pledge of solidarity wit the Revolution by Alawi, Syrian citizens
2012/01/19نشر فى: أخبار محلية
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/47063
نحن الموقعون أدناه، مواطنون سوريون، علويو المولد، اخترنا أن نعبر عن رأي مجموعة كبيرة من أبناء الطائفة العلوية حيث أجبرتنا الظروف والمسؤولية الوطنية إلى الإشارة مكرهين إلى خلفياتنا الاجتماعية.
We undersigned, Alawi born, Syrian citizens have chosen to speak up on behalf of a large segment of the Alawi community
منذ بداية انتفاضة الحرية في سوريا، دعمنا كافة مطالبها مروراً باسقاط النظام بكافة رموزه وانتهاء ببناء دولة مدنية ديموقراطية تحترم جميع مواطنيها. إننا نستنكر محاولة النظام من خلال ألاعيبه الأمنية والإعلامية ربط الطائفة العلوية خصوصاً والأقليات الدينية عموماً به.
بنفس السوية ندين سلوك وتصريحات أطراف معارضة تحاول إضفاء صفة طائفية على انتفاضتنا التي كانت ومازالت انتفاضة كرامة بمطالب مدنية. هذه الأطراف ليست سوى الوجه الآخر للنظام القمعي. إننا نؤكد على ما يلي:
1. وحدة الشعب السوري بكافه أطيافه الدينية والقومية، والعمل على بناء دولة حرة ديموقراطية تحفظ حقوق مواطنيها بالتساوي وهذا يتم بداية باسقاط النظام الاستبدادي الحالي.
2. نطالب الجيش السوري التوقف عن تنفيذ أوامر القتل ضد المتظاهرين السلميين.
3. نجرّم أعمال القمع الوحشية التي يقوم بها أزلام النظام (الشبيحة) أيّاً كانوا، ولأي جماعة دينية أو قومية انتموا.
4. نتبنى الدفاع عن الحقوق المدنية للمواطنين السوريين من كافة أطياف المجتمع السوري وسنبقى ندافع عنها في وجه من يتعدى عليها أيّا كان.
5. ندعو المواطنين السوريين العلويين وأبناء الأقليات الدينية والقومية المتخوفين مما سيلي انهيار النظام إلى المشاركة في إسقاط النظام القمعي والمساهمة في بناء الجمهورية السورية الجديدة، دولة القانون والمواطنة.
6. ندين أية ممارسات وتصريحات طائفية تصدر عن معارضين، ونعتبرها إساءة للشعب السوري كله ولمستقبل سوريا. وندعو قوى الثورة إلى إدانة مثل هذه الممارسات والتصريحات.
7. ندعو جميع أبناء سوريا بكافة انتماءاتهم إلى التوقيع على هذا البيان بعد صدوره.
عاشت سوريا حرة ديموقراطية.
All Syrian citizens, irrespective of backgrounds, are invited to sign this statement.
الموقعون (بحسب الترتيب الأبجدي): هذه النسخة لا تحتوي كل التواقيع لأنها ليست محدثة
Name of signatories in alpahbetical order, as of the time of its publication:
1. أمل سليمان
2. أحمد قصير
3. اسماعيل سمهر
4. إنعام محرز
5. اعتدال اسماعيل
6. إيمان الجابر
7. إياد الكردي
8. إيمان زريق
9. إيناس سعد
10. إيهاب الحسن
11. أحمد سلمان
12. الحسن دبّول
13. بتول نيوف
14. تماضر عبدالله
15. جمال صبح
16. جفان ديوب
17. جلنار أحمد
18. حسان الخطيب
19. حسام نيّوف
20. خولة دنيا
21. دنيا علوش
22. دعد مهنّا
23. رامي البيطار
24. ربا حسن
25. رشا عمران
26. رولا أسد
27. روزا ياسين حسن
28. ريتا قاسم
29. ريهام العلي
30. سامر بدّور
31. سامر رضوان
32. سمر يزبك
33. سمر الخطيب
34. سحر شعبان
35. سامر عساف
36. سمير ميهوب
37. سندس سليمان
38. سلوى الأحمد
39. سهير بسمة
40. سوزان شعبان
41. طارق حمدان
42. طلال نعمان
43. طالب العلي
44. عباب خليل
45. عدنان منصورة
46. عبدالرحيم حمور
47. علا رمضان
48. علا يوسف
49. علي ديوب
50. علي سعد
51. علي نزير علي
52. علي سليمة
53. علي ميّا
54. عمار ياسين
55. غسان سلامة
56. فادي منصور
57. فراس سعد
58. فراس سليمان
59. فراس صبيرة
60. فؤاد حمدان
61. كرم الصالح
62. كنان يوسف
63. كنان فرحات
64. لمى حمّاد
65. لويز عبد الكريم علي
66. ليلاس حمود
67. لينا عمران
68. مالك خيربك
107 .ماهر إسبر
69. محمد حسن
70. محمد صبّور
71. محمد عدنان محمد
72. محمود حمدان
73. محمود ديب
74. مها جديد
75. مها محمود
76. معتز محمود
77. معد حسن
78. منيف ملحم
79. مناف سلّوم
80. مهند ناصيف
81. ميادة الخليل
82. مي رستم
83. نضال سلوم
84. نسيم ملحم
85. نجيب محمود
86. نبيل معروف
87. نبيل ابراهيم
88. نسرين ديب
89. نسيم عمران
90. نمير بيطار
91. نضال جديد
92. نهاد خيربك
93. نهى معروف
94. نعمان حميّد
95. نعمى أيوب
96. نوار قاسم
97. نينار حسن
98. هلا جديد
99. همام الأسعد
100. وسيم حسن
101. وسيم فاضل
102. يامن حسين
103. يمان سلامة
104. يسار سليمان
105. يزن معلّا
106. يارا عثمان
January 19th, 2012, 6:43 am
Revlon said:
Heavy shelling in Homs resulted in collapse of the roof of a house on its inahbitants.
Some of family members were rushed for treatment.
Unaccounted ones are being searched for under the rubble.
This is a glimpse of what whole neighbourhoods must have looked like in Hama when Papa was in charge!
حمص باب هود تدمير منزل بلكامل جراء القصف 19-1-2012
Mr Tamer was rescued from under the rubble
However, He died a while later for lack of medical treatment
حمص – باب هود – 19-01-2012 الشهيد تامر صفوان البيطار
January 19th, 2012, 6:58 am
Observer said:
I think this excellent dispassionate article from Juan Cole’s blog is worth adding to the list of news
Please take the time to read it and I am looking forward to ALL of your comments on it
http://www.juancole.com/2012/01/schmidt-the-freedom-and-democracy-struggle-in-syria.html
January 19th, 2012, 7:55 am
majedkhaldoun said:
#107 syrian commando
You ,who call himself commando, is a terrorist and criminal, you support the regime who is killing civilian, this is the definition of terrorist, your threat worth nothing,
and yes you are zionist,you support the regime that collaborated with the zionist entity.
Your accusation reflect projection of yourself, and let me tell you something , you will live to regret what you say.you will swallow your filthy words .
As far as Russia,you know very well that Russia will do nothing, Iran can not do anything either,the time for people like you is gone, and your depression will cause you to commit suicide.
January 19th, 2012, 9:02 am
Uzair8 said:
Some are using the scare tactic of the conflict becoming regionalised and escalating sucking in foreign powers.
Good news for people. The Banu Asfar (yellow/blonde people) [Russia} are gonna be defeated in Syria as per Hadith. It has been posted here before.
The scenario suggested by Khalid Tlass of an Alawite state backed by Russia sounded like a very possible one to me. Very interesting. Perhaps this is how the conflict with Russia will develop. Khalid I’m gonna share your scenario elsewhere if it’s ok.
https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12822&cp=all#comment-284969
https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12677&cp=all#comment-283777
January 19th, 2012, 9:13 am
Juergen said:
Observer
very good comment on Syria indeed.
I got interested to read the original opinion poll published so here i found it:
http://www.pepperdine.edu/pr/images/press-releases/2010/august/Syria%20Survey%20Report_August%205_final.pdf
One can only wonder why Bashar has not choosen the path of Muhammad VI and King Abdullah, there was a chance for him in the beginning, i think just about before Hama received special treatment by Maher where he could have implemented substantial change and reform, but now one can share the authors view, he will end up in the garbage dump of history.
January 19th, 2012, 9:38 am
zoo said:
Activists: Syrians pull back from besieged town
By ZEINA KARAM | Associated Press – 19 January 2012
BEIRUT (AP) — Syrian government tanks and armored vehicles have pulled back from an embattled mountain town near Damascus, leaving it under the control of the opposition, activists and eyewitnesses said Thursday.
The besieged town of Zabadani has witnessed heavy exchanges of fire between army troops and anti-government military defectors over the past six days.
http://news.yahoo.com/activists-syrians-pull-back-besieged-town-093947932.html
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All medias are puzzled and do not know how to interpret this move. That is my interpretation.
The army is showing strength and restraint. Zabadani as a ‘safe haven’ was a bad choice, it has no future: It is bordering Lebanon whose government officially support Bashar’s regime. The Lebanese will control the passage of people and weapons.
The FSA fighters and their mercenaries are therefore trapped and cannot move to any other place. If the hope that a ‘safe haven’ will encourage soldiers to defect, I doubt any soldier would want to find refuge into a besieged town. I think it may be the other way around.
The SNC was expecting that the death toll of the shelling will create the “Hama’ effect on the international community. It did not happen. In a way, it looks like the regime has been able to neutralize a large part of the armed rebels without killing anyone ( only one death was reported, despite the ‘heavy shelling’). Zabadani is now a prison for the rebels. Their freedom will be the subject of negotiations with their patrons, Turkey, Qatar and the SNC, under the auspices of the AL.
If the FSA/SNC thought they would create a Benghazi, it is a failure.
January 19th, 2012, 9:45 am
irritated said:
Observer #113
“Syrians are modern people. Most of them have internet, mobile phone and satellite TV. ”
Who has internet Syria? 15% of the Syrians…The writer is really well informed.
The writer refers to the absurb Pepperdine report as the Bible. This report is flawed , it was based on the syrian ‘internet’ users.
Another ridiculous evidence:
“There are basically two possible resolutions of the conflict in Syria: a compromise between the parties or the victory of one side over the other.”
What else??
” Bismarck advices to Bashar Al Assad”
This writer is very stupid, sorry and the article is not worth reading.
January 19th, 2012, 9:55 am
jad said:
Sectarianism is what some people breath, they can’t live without polluting everything they touch with their corrupted way of thinking, All4syria and Sooryoun net both have the same disease, the original statement they publish is titled ‘Statement for Citizenship’ and not a ‘Statement from the ALAWITES’ as the site put it, nothing new since Ayman Abd Alnour’s All4syria is famous of manipulating the news text to get attention as he did before to Haytham Manna and Haytham Almale7.
In short the statement says ‘Alawite community is supportive of the Syrian regime because they fear the future’ here is Bassam Alkadi opinion on it: another sectarian statement that wont create ‘citizenship’:
الطائفية لا تصنع مواطنة.. حتى المقنعة منها
وصلني بيان لكي أوقع عليه (منشور أدناه)، معنون ومزخرف بكلمات عن “المواطنة”، لكنه في الحقيقة ليس إلا بيانا طائفيا سبق أن نشر البعض مثله باسمائهم/ن الشخصية، المعنى الوحيد فيه هو أن “الطائفة العلوية داعمة للنظام السوري بسبب من خوفها على مستقبلها”!.. فهؤلاء المتزيين بأزياء المواطنة لم يتسطيعوا، حتى بعد عشرة أشهر وآلاف الضحايا، استيعاب أن حجم التأييد الشعبي لهم لا يتعلق بخوف الناس من النظام، (وهم من قالوا أن حاجز الخوف قد كسر منذ أشهر)، ولا بخوفهم على مستقبلهم “الطائفي”، بل تحديدا بسبب تحول حركة الاحتجاجات إلى حركة إجرام واسع النطاق سيطر عليها القتلة المرتزقة باسم الدين من أخوان مجرمين يعرف الجميع مدى إيغالهم في العنف والتمييز، ووهابيين وسلفيين وغيرهم.. إضافة إلى الخيانة العلنية المستمرة من قبل “قادة” هذا الحراك، سواء مجلس الخيانة بزعامة غليون، أو غيره من تشكيلات قبلت أو دعت لقبول التدخل الخارجي بما فيه العسكري بأسماء مختلفة، بل أن أغلب “الرموز الشبابية” التي استولت على الحراك بعد أن أمنت تمتعها بالأمن التام في أحضان أمريكا وأوربا أعلنت خيانتها لبلدها دون أي مواربة..
لأسباب كثيرة يشكل هذا البيان بيانا طائفيا لا يهدف إلا لتأمين نوع من غطاء للإجرام والخيانة، بمسميات مختلفة، وبالتالي فهو مرفوض جملة وتفصيلا. وهذه بعض الأسباب التي أرفض هذا البيان وأدينه من أجلها.
1- كل حديث يتحدث عن خلفية طائفية أو يتوجه لطائفة أو يتحدث باسمها هو حديث طائفي يناقض المواطنة في صلبها، مهما تم تبريره وتقنيعه… كذلك الأمر كل حديث يتحدث عن “اقليات وأكثريات” عرقية أو قومية أو دينية أو طائفية.
2- لا يدين بالاسم، وبلا تحفظ، خيانة ما يسمى بـ”المجلس الوطني” وكل من يدعو إلى التدخل العسكري الخارجي تحت مسميات “المناطق العازلة” و”حماية المدنيين” وما إلى ذلك.
3- لا يدين بالاسم، وبلا تحفظ، الإجرام الذي يمارسه على نطاق واسع ما يسمى بـ”الجيش الحر” ومن يتلطى تحت عباءته من وهابيين وسلفيين وغيرهم.
4- لا يرفض، بوضوح تام، وبلا أي تحفظ، أي تدخل خارجي في الأزمة السورية، عربي أو أجنبي.
5- لا يحدد بالضبط ماذا يعني شعار “إسقاط النظام” في بنود واضحة تتضمن على الأقل، وحكما:
– تأكيد فصل الدين عن الدولة، في الدستور وجميع القوانين السورية، ومنع أية إمكانية لتغيير الوضع اعتمادا على “صندوق انتخابات” بتنا نعرف جيدا كيف يمكن أن يصاغ في ظل “الديمقراطية الجديدة”.
– منع أي نوع من التمييز بين النساء والرجال، بنص واضح وثابت في الدستور، وبتغيير كل القوانين التي تخالف هذا النص.
– تأكيد حرية الاعتقاد بإطلاق (دون ربطها بالاعتقاد الديني الذي يعني حصر هذه الحرية بأتباع الأديان الثلاثة الإسلام والمسيحية واليهودية)، وإلغاء أي قانون ينتهك هذه الحرية،
– تأكيد وحدة الأراضي السورية كما هي ناتجة عن اتفاقية سايكس بيكو (ضمنا حق لواء اسكندرون بالعودة إلى سورية).
– تأكيد الحق باستعادة الجولان بكافة الوسائل بما فيها الوسائل العسكرية.
– تأكيد دعم المقاومة ضد الاحتلال الصهيوني.
وبناء عليه، يشكل البيان أدناه بيانا طائفيا بامتياز، ومحاولة أخرى لتقنيع الواقع الذي وصلت إليه حركة الاحتجاجات في سورية لإخفاء حقيقته الإجرامية اليوم، والتي لم يعد للشباب الديمقراطي المدني السلمي فيه (في هذا الواقع) إلا بضع مظاهرات متفرقة هنا وهناك.. لا تقدم ولا تؤخر من واقع الحال.
لذلك، فإنني أدعو من وقع/ت على هذا البيان، ممن أعرف أنه/ا يعتقد فعلا بالمواطنة والدولة العلمانية المدنية الديمقراطية والمستقلة والآمنة معا، لمراجعة موقفه/ا، فالنوايا الطيبة لا تحل محل الوقائع القاسية.
http://www.bassam-alkadi.com/index.php/on-the-crisis-in-syria/667-sectarian-against-citizenship
January 19th, 2012, 10:11 am
Tara said:
Zanadani battle is clear indication of weakening of the Syrian regime and its occupying army. Asef knowing that it is a lost battle, decided to cut their loss and pull the army out. The only way the regime could win Zabadani battle would be an all out onslaught massacre, Hama style, which they can’t do anymore while the world is watching. Pathetic regime, it has extensive military power it is forced not to use.
January 19th, 2012, 10:22 am
zoo said:
Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood tells world to isolate Assad (peacefully?)
19/01/2012
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=28151
BEIRUT, (Reuters) – The leader of Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood said world powers should pile diplomatic pressure on President Bashar al-Assad and he called for a no-fly zone and “safe zones” to be set up to help the Syrian leader’s opponents.
Mohammad Shaqfa told Reuters that the Arab League, which has sent monitors to assess Syria’s implementation of a plan to end 10 months of violence, should press the U.N. Security Council to take “deterrent measures” against Assad.
“The Syrian people are determined. Nobody will go back to their homes unless Bashar leaves. There is a determination and God willing the people will reach this goal,” he said in a telephone interview late on Wednesday.
“The international community should take the right position … They should fully isolate this regime, pull out their ambassadors and expel the regime’s ambassadors.”
Shaqfa said the Brotherhood, which in 1982 staged an armed uprising ultimately crushed by Assad’s father, backed peaceful protests and wanted insurgents to restrict their operations to defending demonstrations against Bashar al-Assad’s 11-year rule.
“In the Muslim Brotherhood we reject taking up arms. We are with the peaceful revolution. We will not slip into militarising the revolution,” he said.
Asked what further action the Arab League should demand from the United Nations, Shaqfa said he wanted to see “a no-fly zone and safe zones” established, although he denied this would amount to military intervention.
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“WE DON’T WANT WAR”
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Shaqfa said his Islamist group had urged the FSA to only defend itself and protesters. “We do not advise the Free Army to launch any attacks. Only defensive attacks (are accepted). We do not want a war. We do not want confrontation.”
Shaqfa confirmed that the Brotherhood rejected an indirect approach from Iran to mediate with Assad, saying Tehran must first distance itself from Syrian authorities and dismissing any proposal that would allow Assad to stay in power.
“They sent a Turkish mediator but we rejected the dialogue and told the mediator that we will not talk to the Iranians if they do not amend their position towards the regime,” he said.
“They offered (us) participation in power. The most important thing is they wanted to guarantee that Bashar stays. For us, after all these crimes, it is not acceptable any more that Bashar stays.
January 19th, 2012, 10:22 am
ann said:
Russia warns West it risks war over Syria, Iran – January 20, 2012
http://www.smh.com.au/world/russia-warns-west-it-risks-war-over-syria-iran-20120119-1q8ei.html
MOSCOW: The Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, has warned outside encouragement of anti-government uprisings in the Middle East and north Africa could lead to ”a very big war that will cause suffering not only to countries in the region but also to states far beyond its boundaries”.
Mr Lavrov’s annual news conference on Wednesday was largely a critique of Western policies in Iran and Syria, which he said could lead to a spiral of violence.
He said Russia would use its position on the United Nations Security Council to veto any UN authorisation of military strikes against forces loyal to the government of Syria’s President, Bashar al-Assad.
”If someone conceives the idea of using force at any cost – and I’ve already heard calls for sending some Arab troops to Syria – we are unlikely to be able to prevent this,” Mr Lavrov said. ”But this should be done on their own initiative and should remain on their conscience. They won’t get any authorisation from the Security Council.”
He ruled out the imposition of a flight-exclusion zone in Syria because, he said, the government had not used warplanes to attack demonstrators.
He said foreign governments were arming ”militants and extremists” in Syria and plotting to ”create an impression of a humanitarian disaster” by dispatching convoys of humanitarian aid to the Syrian border. He gave a bristling response to Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN, who on Tuesday expressed concern about possible Russian arms shipments to Syria.
”We are only trading goods with Syria that are not prohibited by international law,” he said.
Mr Lavrov said a military strike against Iran would be a ”catastrophe” and that sanctions proposed against Tehran had been couched in terms of nuclear non-proliferation but were ”seriously intended to have a smothering effect on the Iranian economy”.
January 19th, 2012, 10:27 am
zoo said:
The cost of the fall of al-Assad
19/01/2012
By Tariq Alhomayed
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=2&id=28152
…Hence, concerns over the potential costs of the fall of al-Assad must be reflected at the regional and international levels. Delaying the fall of al-Assad will entail subsequent security and economic complications, not only for Syria, but for the region as a whole. Of course, in the event of al-Assad remaining in power, the price will also be high for the Syrians and the region, specifically Turkey, as at this point al-Assad would be far more dangerous than Saddam Hussein following the liberation of Kuwait.
…Hence, it is dangerous to merely wait for the fall of the al-Assad regime without doing anything to accelerate this process. This is what those concerned with the stability of our region must be aware of, whether we are talking about the Saudis or the Turks, or even the Europeans and the Americans.
January 19th, 2012, 10:32 am
jad said:
It’s very telling that the media is so quite over Rami Abd Alrahman fake identity, I guess too much to explain to the readers, however, now, Osama Ali Suleiman aka Rami, is accusing the SOHR of being ‘regime loyalists’ which means that sometimes soon the story will break out to the media where they can’t ignore it anymore and a reality check will hunt the organization, its position, its people and its ‘INFORMATION’ that have been over used by everybody in the media, human rights organizations and in the UN.
The statement from the SOHR about the small 10months long mistake is here:
Important Letter from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights about Rami Abdulrahman.
http://syriahr.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=638&Itemid=7
January 19th, 2012, 10:33 am
zoo said:
League monitors likely to stay on
http://gulfnews.com/news/region/syria/league-monitors-likely-to-stay-on-1.967827
Nation believed to be willing to accept extension of observer mission’s stay
Reuters 00:00 January 19, 2012
Beirut: Syria may let Arab monitors stay on after their mission expires today, but foes of President Bashar Al Assad say the UN Security Council should step in to halt 10 months of bloodshed.
Arab foreign ministers, due to consider their next step later this week, are split over how to handle Syria, as is the Security Council, which has failed to adopt any position.
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The Arab League source said China and Russia, which have blocked Security Council action so far, had urged President Al Assad to accept an extension of the monitoring mission to avert an escalation at the international level.
Syria would allow a rise in the number of monitors, he said, but opposed giving them formal fact-finding duties or permission to visit “military zones” excluded from the peace plan.
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January 19th, 2012, 10:43 am
jna said:
USA and EU efforts to collapse the government of Syria are being combatted by Iran and Russia. Some details…
New Bid to Stifle Iran Aid to Syria
By JAY SOLOMON And ALAN CULLISON
U.S. officials have uncovered an effort by Iran to help Syria mask its oil exports and evade an American and European embargo, in a potent new sign of Tehran’s campaign to bolster Syrian President Bashar al-Assad as his regime cracks down on public opposition.
American officials investigating the Iranian operation said it is designed to quietly ship Syrian crude oil to Iran, where it can be sold on the international market, with revenue going back to Damascus.
Transit records document one such shipment, involving more than 91,000 metric tons of crude, which took place last month.
“The oil shipment to Iran was designed to evade the sanctions that have been imposed on Syria,” said a senior U.S. Treasury Department official familiar with the case.
In response, the Treasury Department has begun targeting the insurance and registration of international tankers shipping Syrian oil overseas.
Concerns aren’t limited to Iran. Washington and its allies are also intensifying the scrutiny of maritime and air traffic moving into Syria from Russia, as Moscow has publicly committed to continue arming Mr. Assad’s security forces.
This month, Cyprus intercepted a St. Petersburg-based ship, the Chariot, that was moving four containers of munitions bound for the Syrian port of Tartus, according to Cypriot officials. Cyprus eventually released the ship after assurances from its Russian owners that it wouldn’t complete the delivery, according to Cypriot officials.
But Moscow this week confirmed the arms shipment was made. The ship’s owner, the Russian freight company Balchart, declined to comment.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Wednesday defended the arms shipment from Russia to Syria, rebuffing growing American and European calls for Russia to comply with the U.S. and European Union arms embargo on Damascus. “We do not feel we have to explain or justify anything because we are not violating any international agreements or U.N. Security Council resolutions,” Mr. Lavrov said in Moscow. “We are only trading with Syria in items that aren’t banned by international law.”
U.S. and Russian officials are negotiating a Security Council resolution to address the violence in Syria. The U.S. and Europe are pushing for an arms embargo and financial sanctions on the Assad regime as part of the resolution. Moscow has opposed such a measure.
A spokesman for the Iranian embassy at the U.N. said there are no international sanctions on Syria that Tehran needs to respect. He also said that outside powers, not Iran, have been feeding the conflict inside Syria by shipping in arms. “Syria is an independent country, and Iran respects its sovereignty,” said the spokesman. “Iran believes that Syrians have the right to self-determination free from any foreign intervention.”
Russia and Iran historically have been the Assad family’s closest allies. Moscow is Syria’s largest arms supplier and maintains a naval base in Tartus. Syria and Iran closely coordinate in funding and arming the militant groups Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Palestinian territories.
Soldiers carry a general’s coffin in a Damascus funeral Tuesday attended by Arab League observers, in orange.
The U.S. and EU have focused on drying up Mr. Assad’s oil revenues ever since Syrian security forces began a military crackdown against opposition political activists in March that has left thousands dead.
In the past, Damascus generated roughly one-third of its revenue from oil sales to Europe, according to official Syrian statistics. But its shipments have been crippled by U.S. and EU sanctions that ban the financing or insuring of Syrian oil exports, industry executives say.
Mr. Assad’s government has spoken about reorienting its oil sales to Asian countries, such as China and India, to generate earnings.
In late November, U.S. officials said they had gathered information that showed Iran was stepping in to aid Syria with its oil trade. U.S. and European officials believe Tehran is assisting Damascus with its military crackdown by providing arms, software, training and intelligence.
U.S. officials and shipping executives said Iran, through a Dubai-based company, Sea Enterprises Ltd., chartered a Greek-owned tanker, the Mire, to ship more than 91,000 metric tons of crude. The Mire loaded the oil from Nov. 19 to 21 at the Syrian port of Baniyas with the intention of delivering it to Iran’s Ras Bahregan oil terminal, the officials and executives said.
The Treasury Department was able to get the Mire’s insurance and registration pulled after telling company executives that the ship was carrying a product sanctioned by the U.S. and EU.
The Mire, like many international oil tankers, uses American insurance, is registered in Liberia and flies under a Liberian flag. The Liberian International Ship and Corporate Registry ordered the Mire’s owners to desist from delivering the oil to Iran, said Scott Bergeron, CEO of the Liberian company.
But the owners ignored the order and discharged the shipment in Iran before eventually returning to the United Arab Emirates. Efforts to reach Sea Enterprises were unsuccessful.
Liberia issued a notice of violation against the Mire’s owner, Eurotankers Inc. of Greece, in accordance with Liberian civil-penalty procedures. The company declined to comment.
“We are seeing more and more action taken by both the U.S. and the EU against shipping interests,” Mr. Bergeron said.
Spokesmen for the Syrian government declined to comment. U.S. officials said their strategy of targeting Syria’s shipping was drawn from Washington’s wider financial war against Iran—and say that Iran’s ability to provide financial assistance to Syria is increasingly constrained by the growing sanctions placed on Tehran. Planned EU sanctions on Iran’s oil exports could tighten the screws.
Damascus has been increasingly reliant on oceangoing vessels for arms shipments, because neighbors have been making air shipments difficult, according to U.S. and European officials.
Turkey has been denying overflight rights, halting the shipments to Syria from Iran, according to these officials. As an alternative, Syria has also tried to fly arms in from the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad in Eastern Europe, but those flights have been blocked by neighboring Lithuania.
“The air is no longer an option for the Syrians to get weapons,” said Hugh Griffiths of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, an international arms watchdog. “So it makes sense to go after the sea shipping and the insurance companies.” It is easy to use the insurance companies as a pressure point, Mr. Griffiths said, because most of the insurance companies are based in the EU or the Caribbean.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203735304577169191656832540.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
January 19th, 2012, 10:48 am
Afram said:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203735304577169191656832540.html
January 19th, 2012, 11:04 am
irritated said:
Jad #125
I was surprised to read among the trustees of the Observatory that one of them was in Syria. How happens she is not in prison?
* Mrs. Maya Fateh (Co-founder of the SOHR and Writer – Now in Syria)
January 19th, 2012, 11:06 am
Jad said:
Irritated,
Regardless that the issue for now is about the name, in the west everything is connected, if someone caught lying that’s the end of it.
The bigger problem now is who to believe, the coordinations don’t have the credibility the SOHR has other than in Arab media and it will be hard for the mainstream media to circulate the coordinations numbers without the credibilty needed unlike the Arabic media that publish every crap.
I agree it’s the Gay girl story allover again but bigger.
January 19th, 2012, 11:08 am
irritated said:
129. Afram
The oil and arms embargo on Syria is NOT an UN resolution. It is a unilateral decision from the US and the EU.
No other country is bound by these sanctions.
Russia, Iran and others are free to help Syria sell its oil and provide its legitimate army with weapons based on a long term contract.
The EU and the US do not own the world.
January 19th, 2012, 11:11 am
zoo said:
Many killed in Syria’s hotspots in unabated violence
2012-01-19 17:50:41
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/19/c_131369245.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 19 (Xinhua) — At least four people, including two law-enforcement personnel, have been shot dead by armed groups in central province Homs and southern city Daraa, state-run SANA news agency reported on Thursday.
Sana also said Lieutenant Hussein Ali Abbas has been killed and five law-enforcement personnel injured in an attack by “armed terrorists” in the town of Hantoutin in al-Maara area in Idleb governorate.
Meanwhile, the private Al-Watan newspaper said on Thursday that gunmen attacked checkpoints in different parts of Homs and killed three security agents and wounded 11 others, some of them in serious conditions.
The paper also reported the discovery of a torture house at Deir Taelaba neighborhood in Homs used by “terrorists groups” and the rescue of two women during a search of gunmen in the area.
The national hospital in Homs on Wednesday received seven unidentified mutilated bodies, Al-Watan said.
Also, military engineering units in Daraa on Wednesday dismantled two explosive devices planted in crowded areas, the first weighing 40 kg and the second 8 kg, according to SANA.
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January 19th, 2012, 11:17 am
ann said:
How Libya’s Success Became Syria’s Failure – January 19, 2012
http://www.undispatch.com/how-libyas-success-became-syrias-failure
Another day, another round of news that more people have been killed by the Syrian government.
Meanwhile, on the diplomatic front the prospects that the Security Council will adopt any sort of punitive resolution (like sanctions, an arms embargo or ICC referral) are getting bleaker by the news cycle. Just yesterday, the Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov categorically rejected any punitive measure against Syria. And if the Russian foreign minister’s words are not enough to show you which side Russia is on, maybe this shipment of weapons to the Syrian government may convince.
At a forum marking the 10th anniversary of the Responsibility to Protect yesterday, Ban Ki Moon called the unfolding human tragedy in Syria “the next test of our common humanity.”
But if nothing changes, it looks like we’ll fail this test. Why? The reason has less to do with Syria than with the diplomatic fallout from the NATO-led Libya intervention.
Most non-western countries on the Security Council are still smarting over how NATO carried out the Libya military campaign. Russia and China, which are traditionally wary of this kind of intervention, took a big risk and withheld their veto to Resolution 1973 which authorized the use of force in Libya. They did so because they believed that the resolution very narrowly circumscribed the kind of force that NATO would use. They expected civilian protection. What NATO became was the de-facto air force of Libyan rebels.
It also was clear that the Libyan rebels were being supplied with arms and weaponry despite an arms embargo mandated by resolution 1973. “We did not realize that the punitive measure of the arms embargo would be selectively interpreted,” said Indian Ambassador Puri who voted to abstain from the resolution (along with Brazil, Russia, China and Germany).
The thing is, if Libya is a test case for R2P and the concept of international intervention to avert mass atrocities, the international community passed with flying colors. As Gareth Evans, the former Australian foreign minister who is one of the intellectual fathers of the Responsibility to Protect put it, “Libya is a textbook case for the application of the R2P.” He’s right. The intervention happened quickly, helped avoid a potential mass atrocity in Benghazi, and had the formal backing of the Security Council. This is pretty much how it is supposed to work.
But success in Libya may have come at the expense of intervention (even non-military intervention) in Syria. NATO’s liberal interpretation of the Security Council mandate helped it achieve its goals with efficiency, but it poisoned any chance that the Security Council would coalesce around R2P when a future crisis arose.
“Syria is the collateral victim of Libya the same way that Rwanda was the collateral victim of Somalia,” said Jean Marie Guehenno, the longtime head of UN Peacekeeping. In other words, just as the Black Hawk Down made western powers wary of even contemplating a humanitarian intervention in Rwanda three years later, the steamrolling of non-western interests in the execution of the Libyan intervention is coloring Russia, China other non-western powers’ approach to Syria. From their perspective, they just don’t want to get played like that again.
This leaves us at a pretty uncomfortable conclusion that humanity is poised to spectacularly fail Ban Ki Moon’s test. But do the Syrian people and the Free Syrian Army know that?
If not, someone should tell them.
There’s a theory which posits that the principle of humanitarian intervention has a hidden moral hazard: rebel groups may feel emboldened to take up arms against a more powerful foe if they have reason to believe that foreign powers will come to their aid. Given the way in which R2P was applied in Libya, it would not be unreasonable for a Syrian resister to believe that the international community will rally against the Assad regime. Alas, the hard reality is that NATO will not be the Free Syrian Army’s air force. And even if the Security Council did somehow get on board, air power would probably not be as effective against Syria as it was in Libya. No one is talking about ground forces.
There will not be a Libya-style intervention in Syria. There probably will not even be sanctions, an arms embargo or an ICC referral either. Someone should stand up and tell them this hard fact. As Louise Arbour, the head of the International Crisis Group, said “Part of the responsibility to protect includes the responsibility to tell the truth about our own limitations.”
January 19th, 2012, 12:19 pm
ann said:
FOOL’S PARADISE?! – 19.01.2012
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/19-01-2012/120284-Fools_Paradise-0/
Less than a year ago, an attempted coup took place in the Sheikdom of Qatar by a disgruntled coterie that consisted of some military officers who wanted to dispose of the present ruler from the Al-Thani family who himself came to power in a bloodless coup that got rid of the elder Al-Thani who was at that time enjoying some fresh European air in the Alps.
It was bloodless coup by the present Sheikh who nevertheless has bloodied his hands by his illegal involvement in the recent decimation of Libya. He has now offered his hands again to the ill-fitting gloves of the western imperialist powers that plan to intervene militarily in the country of Syria that is witnessing unrest instigated and promoted by the same imperialists.
The Arab League consists of countries such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE etc. that have monarchies in power that have total support of the US, UK &=and few other western countries. Needless to say, without the support of these imperial thugs, the Sheikhdoms are sitting on powder-kegs that can explode at any time since their power base is weak by themselves, but are held on by sheer coercion.
The unrest that is going on in Bahrain and the attempted coup in Qatar are two examples of the state of affairs in these Sheikdoms. Most of them don’t even have a hint of the “democracy” that is so dear to our western friends who desperately attempted to enforce the same in Iraq and Libya.
In Libya, they did this by sending incessant explosive messages of democracy from 30,000 feet for months that killed over 60,000 men, women and children. Iraq is another story in which almost a million people are dead, but the oil is flowing through the pipelines made and controlled by the imperial powers.
It is obvious why these Sheikdoms have joined the western nexus of imperial powers. Without this support, they can collapse like a house of cards. Countries like Iraq, Syria and Libya which had gotten rid of despotic monarchical rule were a threat to these Sheikhs and their hold of power. In true sense, these countries that had no more Royals at the helm were seen as a threat to the imperial hegemonic ideas of the western nations and their thirst for oil.
Whereas the Sheikhs and their fiefdoms have offered all possible services to their imperialist masters by providing military bases, cheap oil and finally, as in the case of Libya, manpower a.k.a. a mercenary force by Qatar to fulfil the wishes of an illegal invasion.
The same service is now being offered by this thug, Al-Thani, to the US, by prompting US led NATO to start the bombardment and get rid of Basher Assad, who by his policies has made Syria a modern State where women enjoy equal freedom unlike their counterparts in these Sheikdoms of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc. Libya and Iraq, too, had offered women an equal role in their societies by providing them education, jobs, etc. which again are lacking in these despotic Sheikdoms which are ruled by a bunch of subservient Sheikhs whose duties are to abide by the diktats of the West.
It is apparent that modernity in the Arab World is not tolerated by the western imperial powers. Their pseudo push for democracy is a gimmick. The quest for oil and gas and the access to the same is all they want. These Sheikhdoms are providing that without a question.
The problem was or is the more enlightened leadership in this region that with threats of nationalising their oil wealth, the possibility of a cut off to accessing the much needed energy source could or would become a reality. Hence these illegal attacks and invasions by the ex-colonialists on certain sovereign nations have taken place.
Their tactics and reasons are much masked by the controlled media of the imperialist west, most media owned by large corporations who have high stakes in the energy sectors. To put it bluntly, most media in the West lie about the true state of affairs in the regions of the Middle East and North Africa. It is the modern version of Goebells at work. Murdoch and the gang are the new ‘Avatar’ of Goebells!
Notwithstanding the joint veto by Russia and China at the UN Security Council on the resolution on Syria, if the imperial west overrides the same with impunity, as they have shown in the past, an attack on Syria by US led NATO will result in mass casualties and destruction of a country.
In the not too distant past, the southern part of the Americas had a number of countries, small and medium sized, called ‘Banana Republics.’ They were ruled by despots who directly came under the rule of thumb of the US. They were made to sway to the tune played in Washington by big business houses who had ownership of immense tracts of land in these countries. But now times have changed and the scene is now being shifted to the Middle East and Africa.
With the same ruthlessness, tied along with lies, the attacks, invasions and installations of puppet regimes have begun. Of course black gold is more precious than a bunch of bananas!
The question is this. How long will these new ‘colonies-by-default’ or the new ‘banana republics’ in the Middle East and North Africa remain under the cudgel and yoke of western imperialist masters?
If not for long, hopefully speaking, are these western masters living in an imaginary wonderland where all things are hunky-dory or are they so mentally imbalanced not to realise, after all, it will turn out to be a “fool’s paradise” once the locals reclaim their land, power and wealth from the occupier?
January 19th, 2012, 12:41 pm
Afram said:
131. irritated said:
129. Afram
“The oil and arms embargo on Syria is NOT an UN resolution. It is a unilateral decision from the US and the EU.
No other country is bound by these sanctions.
Russia, Iran and others are free to help Syria sell its oil and provide its legitimate army with weapons based on a long term contract.
The EU and the US do not own the world.”
I know&totally agree with you
I also know one of you would have posted WSJ link sooner or later
I just did to please the wicked step mother of cinderella”TARA”&her step father”MAJEDKHALDOUN”
Both voted with red thumb down
128. Aframsaid:
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January 19th, 2012, 11:04 am
I didn,t even make a comment in my previous post!
to justify a vote…but hate is their game,so be it
regard
January 19th, 2012, 12:47 pm
jad said:
السماح للمصارف ببيع الدولار بسعر السوق السوداء ..
مدير بنك خاص: يخفف من الضغط على الليرة ويحقق أرباح ويلجم تلاعب الصرافين
دمشق – سيرياستيبس:
قالت مصادر ” لسيرياستيبس” أن الحكومة قد اتخذت قراراً ( لم يعمم بعد ) بالسماح للمصارف الخاصة ببيع الدولار بسعر السوق السوداء , وذلك لتوسيع قاعدة المتعاملين ببيع القطع ولجم المضاربة التي يقوم بها الصرافة ( السود والبيض منهم) ما يمكن تخفيف الضغط على الليرة وتسجيل ارتفاع في سعر صرفها ..
وقال مدير بنك خاص ” لسيرياستيبس” : أن هكذا إجراء وفي حال تمت صياغته ضمن تعليمات تنفيذية محكمة يمكن أن يساعد فعلاً في تخفيف الضغط على الليرة إلى حد كبير وتدخل المصارف كطرف منافس للصرافين من أجل وقف التلاعب بأسعار الصرف وتوفير معروض يلبي الطلب.
مشيراً إلى أن البنوك يمكن أن تقوم بذلك عبر جزء من رأسمالها الذي هو بالقطع, وهو ما يمكن أن ينعكس عليها ويؤمن لها تحقيق أرباح كبيرة ولكن المهم هو أن تتم العملية من رأسمالها من القطع وليس من أموال المودعين وهنا نقطة مهمة جداً يجب التنبيه إليها جيداً وتضمينها ضمن مضمون القرار وبشكل يبقي أموال المودعين بعيدة عن العملية برمتها .
موضحاً أنه من المهم قيادة العملية بذكاء وحنكة وعلى أسس نقدية واضحة وليس على أساس من التجريب ..
مؤكداً أن الخطوة من شأنها أن تمكن المصارف من تحقيق أرباح خاصة وأن عام 2012 ينظر إليه على أنه من أصعب الأعوام عالمياً فكيف مع وجود أزمة كما في سورية ..
هذا وكان صناعيون وتجار طالبوا المركزي بتصحيح سياساته النقدية سريعاً لمنع تدهور الليرة واتخاذ إجراءات صارمة يعيدها إلى وضعها الطبيعي, مؤكدين في هذا السياق أن سعر صرف 60 ليرة لم يعد جيداً للتصدير و الاستيراد على حد سواء ..
هذا وكان المركزي تسانده قوى الأمن الجنائي كشف مئات من مؤسسات الصرافة الشركات ومكاتب غير مرخصة وبعضها مرخص تمارس مخالفات وتتلاعب بسعر الليرة وتحويلاتها إلى جانب الكشف عن غرف متخصصة بتهريب الأموال إلى دول الجوار وخاصة لبنان ..
هذا و شهدت تداولات الدولار في سوق غير النظامية (السوداء) أمس تقلصاً للفجوة السعرية بين محافظتي حلب ودمشق كما كان سائداً خلال اليومين السابقين.
وقد واصل الدولار ارتفاعه ولكن بشكل طفيف مقارنة بتداولات أمس الأول أمام الليرة السورية في السوق السوداء، حيث وصل سعر الشراء مساء أمس في دمشق 72 ل.س والبيع 73.5 ل.س وفي حلب وصل سعر البيع 73- 73.25 ل.س والشراء 72 ل.س مساء أمس.
أما رسمياً فقد ارتفع سعر الصرف الرسمي للدولار الأميركي مقابل الليرة السورية أمس إلى مستوى 57.83 ليرة مقارنة بـ57.78 في تداولات أول من أمس وفق نشرة مصرف سورية المركزي، على حين ارتفع اليورو مقابل الليرة إلى مستوى 73.86 ليرة لليورو مقارنةً بـ73.69.
أما عالمياً، فقد واصل الدولار الأمريكي تراجعه أمام معظم العملات الرئيسية لليوم الثالث على التوالي، حيث كشف مؤشر الدولار أمس تراجعاً بنحو 0.6% في التداولات المسائية، مع العلم أم المؤشر يقيس أداء الدولار الأميركي أمام ست من العملات الرئيسية.
وكشف تقرير للمركزي أمس عن انخفاض الطلب على الدولار بشكل حاد، وإلى مستويات غير جديرة بالذكر مقارنةً بـ5 ملايين في تداولات أول أمس، في حين ارتفع العرض منه، إلا أنه بقي دون مليون دولار في الوقت الذي سجل فيه الطلب على اليورو انخفاض جوهري لليوم الثاني على التوالي إلى مستوى 8 مليون يورو مقارنة بـ21 مليون يورو في تداولات أول أمس، بينما سجل العرض منه ارتفاعاً طفيفاً بواقع نصف مليون إلى مستوى مليون.
هذا وكشف التقرير عن انخفاض في تعاملات المصارف فيما بينها إلى مستويات محدودة جداً. أما في سياق مراكز القطع فقد انخفضت نسبة مراكز القطع الأجنبي المدينة بالدولار الأميركي من إجمالي المراكز المدينة بالعملات الأجنبية لدى المصارف المرخصة إلى مستوى 94.90% مقارنة بـ95.14%، في حين سجلت نسبة المراكز الدائنة بالدولار الأميركي من إجمالي المراكز الدائنة بالعملات الأجنبية مقيمة بالدولار الأميركي لدى المصارف المرخصة انخفاضاً إلى 7.47% في تداولات الأمس مقارنةً بـ7.83% في تداولات أول أمس، علماً بأن مراكز القطع الأجنبي الدائنة لدى المصارف المحلية تتركز بشكل رئيسي في العملات العربية التي مازالت تتسم بأنها عالية العائد والتي ترتبط في الوقت نفسه بسعر صرف ثابت مقابل الدولار الأميركي، في حين ارتفع احتفاظ المصارف العاملة بمراكز دائنة باليورو، وسط توجه المستثمرين للتعامل باليورو وذلك على خلفية تخوف المستثمرين من التعامل بالدولار الأميركي إثر العقوبات التي فرضتها الولايات المتحدة الأميركية على حوالات الدولار الأميركي.
http://syriasteps.com/index.php?d=126&id=81415
January 19th, 2012, 12:57 pm
aldendeshe said:
@ANN
Any word on the genocide now taking place in Syria by Shia backed Baathist Mafia? Lira hits 72/1 this morning, any resolution other than oppositions do the Assad deed and become puppetteers for the war criminal Mafia?
January 19th, 2012, 1:02 pm
Tara said:
Afram
I am not wicked. I am nice. Everyone around me say I am very nice. You are wicked. You celebrated the death of thousands of Turks after the earthquake. Remember?
January 19th, 2012, 1:03 pm
jad said:
Alqaeda in the region:
معلومات فرنسية عن قدوم 18 عنصراً من القاعدة إلى لبنان… و30 آخرين يتمركزون في بؤرة حدودية
على الرغم من انحسار التراشق السياسي والإعلامي حول وجود “القاعدة” في لبنان، وهو التراشق الذي تفجر إثر كلام وزير الدفاع فايز غصن، إلا أن الأروقة الأمنية في بلدان عدة ومن ضمنها لبنان تضج بأخبار التنظيم المذكور وفروعه المنتشرة، لجهة دخوله على الحدث السوري أو لجهة إفادته من انشغال السلطات الأمنية السورية في احتواء الاضطرابات الداخلية.
وينقل مصدر متابع على تواصل مع قيادات أمنية، أن “القاعدة” عبر التنظيمات المتفرعة عنها في لبنان، بدأت تتحضر منذ الآن لما تتوقعه من فوضى سورية مقبلة، وقد لاحظت الأجهزة الأمنية اللبنانية نشاطاً غير عادي لعناصر هذه التنظيمات في الفترة الأخيرة، ويؤكد المصدر أن الانتربول الفرنسي قد أبلغ الأمن اللبناني “بأن هناك حوالي 18 لبنانيا موجودون في منطقة وزيرستان الحدودية بين باكستان وأفغانستان، وهؤلاء هم كوادر من القاعدة ويتدربون في معسكراتها، وقد يعودون الى لبنان في فترة قريبة”.
ويضيف المصدر: “ولا أخفي سراً ايضاً، اذا قلت إن هناك مسؤولا كبيراً من أصل تونسي في قيادة القاعدة، هو موجود حاليا في لبنان منذ حوالى سنتين، ويتنقل بتمويه كبير ويتخفى تارة في مخيم عين الحلوة وتارة في أماكن اخرى ويتصرف بحذر شديد، ويتولى تنظيم الشبكات السرية اللبنانية التابعة له، وربما هو من ارسل اللبنانيين الى وزيرستان، وهو شخص خطير، وبالتالي نستطيع ان نستنتج بأن هناك نشاطا ما للقاعدة على عدة مستويات ومناطق، وربما هناك أشياء كثيرة خافية ولا نعرفها، وهذا فقط ما يتسرب حاليا”.
ويتابع المصدر: “هناك قرار عند قيادة “القاعدة” بالانتقال من العراق الى سوريا واستخدام لبنان نقطة العبور إلى الداخل السوري، فلم يعد لبنان فقط ملجأ للتدريب والاختباء بالنسبة لقيادة “القاعدة” في بلاد الشام والتي منها مجموعة عبدالله عزام التي يتزعمها صالح القرعاوي، ولكن اليوم بدأت القاعدة تعتبر لبنان أرض نصرة للمعارضة السورية، وعلى “القاعدة” في لبنان ان تستغل الاوضاع لمؤازرة اخوانها داخل سوريا ، طبعا ليس سرا القول ان هناك اكثر من 13 ألف سوري قد التحقوا بتنظيم القاعدة في العراق خلال فترة “الدولة الاسلامية في العراق” او في فترة ابو مصعب الزرقاوي، وبدأ قسم من هؤلاء العودة الى ما يعتبرونه “الجهاد” في سوريا، ومنهم من يفكر أيضا ان يتمركز على الحدود ـ اللبنانية، والكل يعرف ان الطبيعة الجغرافية للحدود الممتدة على أكثر من 360 كلم فيها مناطق وعرة ووديان ويصعب مراقبتها أمنيا من الطرفين اللبناني والسوري، وبالتالي هناك مناطق جبلية وعرة من الممكن ان تتمركز فيها عناصر للقاعدة والمنطقة الحدودية بغض النظر عن الحديث عن منطقة الشمال ووادي خالد”.
ويؤكد المصدر: “اليوم اهم نقطة تقيمها القاعدة كمنطقة لوجستية وكبؤرة تمركز، هي نقطة حدودية قريبة من عرسال، وهي تقع داخل منطقة حدودية مشتركة على الحدود السورية اللبنانية وتبعد 5 كلم عن عرسال، وهي وعرة وفيها بؤرة لعناصر من القاعدة يعرفها الجيشان اللبناني والسوري، وهناك صعوبة للوصول اليها، وفيها ايضا ما يقارب 30 عنصرا من القاعدة السوريين وبعض الجنسيات العربية وسواها، ولقد سبق ان تمكن الجيش اللبناني من توقيف أحد السوريين المنتمين لتنظيم القاعدة أواخر الأسبوع الأخير من شهر تشرين الثاني/نوفمبر الماضي، وحصلت عملية امنية ضد هذا المسؤول الكبير في تنظيم القاعدة السورية”.
ويشدد المصدر على أن أهمية هذه البؤرة في تلك النقطة الحدودية، لم تنبع من كونها تقع في منطقة حدودية مشتركة ومتداخلة، بل أيضا من كونها “تشكل معبر إمداد للجماعات التكفيرية في قوس من البلدات هي الزبداني ومضايا والتل وحرستا ودوما، وهذه الأخيرة فيها كتيبة ما يسمى ابو عبيدة الجراح التي تمولها قطر وفيها كتيبة سلفية كبيرة وتاريخيا فيها الالاف من الارهابيين وتشكل قاعدة للتيار السلفي الوهابي”.
الانتقاد
http://www.tayyar.org/Tayyar/News/PoliticalNews/ar-LB/qaeda-lebanon-zek-886.htm
January 19th, 2012, 1:12 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
If Bashar stays one more month the dollar will worth 100 lira
I missed Bronco
He was polite , not like Afram and irritated, they are the worst of the worst as bad and evil as syian commander
January 19th, 2012, 1:41 pm
Juergen said:
Orient TV
report on the syrian Economy and the exchange value of the Pound
January 19th, 2012, 2:13 pm
jna said:
Grim video casts shadow on methods of Free Syrian Army
A video has sparked a flurry of reactions among Syrian bloggers: it shows the brutal interrogation of an officer captured by the Free Syrian Army (FSA), a combat force made up of soldiers who have deserted the regular army to support anti-government protests. The FRANCE 24 Observers team has been able to authenticate the video. When questioned about its content, an army deserter now working with the FSA suggested that in times such as these, the ends justify the means.
This video was first posted on YouTube on October 20, 2011, and has recently resurfaced. The recording bears the logo of the Farouk brigade, a group of rebel fighters linked to the Free Syrian Army and based in the eastern city of Homs. The prisoner being interrogated is presented as a member of the Syrian Air Force’s secret service. Forty-four seconds into the video he can be heard saying that he is from Deraa but that he was in deployment in Homs, in the neighbourhoods of Diar Baalbeh, Bayadah and Khaldiyeh. At 1’01 minutes, he says that he was ordered to shoot to kill, and that he had opened fire on demonstrators in other cities at various times since the start of the protest movement.
At 1’59 minutes, the interrogator asks him whether he has a last wish to express before he dies. Asked whether he regrets what he has done, the prisoner replies: “yes, very much.” The interrogator then continues to sermon him, ordering him to “look up, son of a bitch” (at 2’48 minutes). The video ends with the question: “Then why didn’t you desert?”
Some bloggers have compared the FSA’s methods to those of the regular Syrian army. Others claim that the video is entirely fabricated by Syrian secret services or supporters of president Bashar al Assad to tarnish the image of the Free Syrian Army. However, our team has been able to verify this video and confirm its authenticity.
Abou Hussein is a deserting Syrian officer. He is the administrator of the official Facebook page of the Farouk brigade, where the video was originally posted.
http://observers.france24.com/content/20120119-video-syrian-opposition-army-methods-farouk-brigade-free-syrian-army-deserter-homs-interrogation-secret-service
Video can be viewed at the link.
January 19th, 2012, 2:16 pm
jna said:
“Apart from the violent and even bloody events prevailing in some parts of the country, Syria is also plagued by a dramatic surge in robberies and burglaries targeting shops, houses and cars.
Residents in the suburbs of the Syrian capital Damascus have been talking about looters roaming the streets sometimes with knives, sticks and other weapons. The thugs have exploited the chaos caused by months of protests to ransack shops, prompting shop owners to close early at night. … Street violence took a new form recently with marauding gangs sacking homes in a number of areas, including Damascus’ suburbs.
According to government reports, crimes in Damascus suburbs have increased by 400 percent since mid March.”
read more… http://english.cri.cn/6966/2012/01/18/2743s676935.htm
January 19th, 2012, 2:41 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
“…..According to government reports, crimes in Damascus suburbs have increased by 400 percent since mid March.”…
@JNA..
In the 80’s Riffat Assad units were doing the same as the Bashar Shia Shabiha doing now. Just as desciberd by you in the above post. When will this Shia criminal mafia terror ends?
January 19th, 2012, 2:50 pm
defender said:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30278.htm
NATO vs. Syria
By Philip Giraldi
January 18, 2012 “American Conservative” — Americans should be concerned about what is happening in Syria, if only because it threatens to become another undeclared war like Libya but much, much worse. Calls for regime change have come from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who several weeks ago predicted a civil war. That is indeed likely if the largely secular and nationalist regime of Bashar al-Assad falls, pitting Sunni against Shia against Alawite. Indigenous Christians will be caught in the meat grinder. Ironically, many of the Christians in Damascus are Iraqis who experienced the last round of liberation in their own country and had to flee for their lives.
NATO is already clandestinely engaged in the Syrian conflict, with Turkey taking the lead as U.S. proxy. Ankara’s foreign minister, Ahmet Davitoglu, has openly admitted that his country is prepared to invade as soon as there is agreement among the Western allies to do so. The intervention would be based on humanitarian principles, to defend the civilian population based on the “responsibility to protect” doctrine that was invoked to justify Libya. Turkish sources suggest that intervention would start with creation of a buffer zone along the Turkish-Syrian border and then be expanded. Aleppo, Syria’s largest and most cosmopolitan city, would be the crown jewel targeted by liberation forces.
Unmarked NATO warplanes are arriving at Turkish military bases close to Iskenderum on the Syrian border, delivering weapons from the late Muammar Gaddafi’s arsenals as well as volunteers from the Libyan Transitional National Council who are experienced in pitting local volunteers against trained soldiers, a skill they acquired confronting Gaddafi’s army. Iskenderum is also the seat of the Free Syrian Army, the armed wing of the Syrian National Council. French and British special forces trainers are on the ground, assisting the Syrian rebels while the CIA and U.S. Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause, enabling the fighters to avoid concentrations of Syrian soldiers.
CIA analysts are skeptical regarding the march to war. The frequently cited United Nations report that more than 3,500 civilians have been killed by Assad’s soldiers is based largely on rebel sources and is uncorroborated. The Agency has refused to sign off on the claims. Likewise, accounts of mass defections from the Syrian Army and pitched battles between deserters and loyal soldiers appear to be a fabrication, with few defections being confirmed independently. Syrian government claims that it is being assaulted by rebels who are armed, trained, and financed by foreign governments are more true than false.
In the United States, many friends of Israel are on the Assad regime-change bandwagon, believing that a weakened Syria, divided by civil war, will present no threat to Tel Aviv. But they should think again, as these developments have a way of turning on their head. The best organized and funded opposition political movement in Syria is the Muslim Brotherhood.
Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer, is executive director of the Council for the National Interest.
January 19th, 2012, 3:20 pm
zoo said:
In North Africa, poor and desperate citizen self immolate.
We have not seen this in Syria or any other Arab countries.
5 unemployed Moroccans set selves on fire
PAUL SCHEMM – AP – 22 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/5-unemployed-moroccans-set-selves-fire
RABAT, Morocco (AP) — Five unemployed Moroccan men set themselves on fire in the capital Rabat as part of widespread demonstrations in the country over the lack of jobs, especially for university graduates, a rights activist said Thursday. Three were burned badly enough to be hospitalized.
Once rare, self-immolation became a tactic of protest in the Middle East and North Africa ever since a vegetable seller in Tunisia set himself on fire in December 2010 to protest police harassment, setting off an uprising that toppled the government and sparked similar movements elsewhere in the region.
The Moroccans were part of the “unemployed graduates” movement, a loose collections of associations across the country filled with millions of university graduates demanding jobs. The demonstrations are often violently dispersed by police and in some towns and cities have resulted in sustained clashes.
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January 19th, 2012, 3:26 pm
zoo said:
Saudi Arabia playing a dangerous game in participating in the oil embargo to squeeze Iran.
Iran will probably retaliate in a way or another.
EU to sanction Iran bank, Greece holds up oil embargo
http://news.yahoo.com/eu-nations-agree-sanctions-against-iran-central-bank-191403078.html
EU nations Thursday agreed to sanction Iran’s central bank, freezing assets used to finance its nuclear drive, but have yet to clinch an oil embargo deal that could penalise debt-hit Greece.
…..
“Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi said this week that the kingdom’s output could be boosted by around 2.6 million barrels a day to offset a potential cut in Iranian exports.
But Iran warned Saudi Arabia to reconsider its vow to make up for any shortfall.”
January 19th, 2012, 3:37 pm
aldendeshe said:
It is so quite today.
January 19th, 2012, 3:37 pm
defender said:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30289.htm
Most Syrians back President Assad, but you’d never know from western media
Assad’s popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west’s propaganda war
By Jonathan Steele
January 19, 2012 “The Guardian” — January 17, 2012 — Suppose a respectable opinion poll found that most Syrians are in favour of Bashar al-Assad remaining as president, would that not be major news? Especially as the finding would go against the dominant narrative about the Syrian crisis, and the media considers the unexpected more newsworthy than the obvious.
Alas, not in every case. When coverage of an unfolding drama ceases to be fair and turns into a propaganda weapon, inconvenient facts get suppressed. So it is with the results of a recent YouGov Siraj poll on Syria commissioned by The Doha Debates, funded by the Qatar Foundation. Qatar’s royal family has taken one of the most hawkish lines against Assad – the emir has just called for Arab troops to intervene – so it was good that The Doha Debates published the poll on its website. The pity is that it was ignored by almost all media outlets in every western country whose government has called for Assad to go.
The key finding was that while most Arabs outside Syria feel the president should resign, attitudes in the country are different. Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war – a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria’s borders. What is less good news for the Assad regime is that the poll also found that half the Syrians who accept him staying in power believe he must usher in free elections in the near future. Assad claims he is about to do that, a point he has repeated in his latest speeches. But it is vital that he publishes the election law as soon as possible, permits political parties and makes a commitment to allow independent monitors to watch the poll.
Biased media coverage also continues to distort the Arab League’s observer mission in Syria. When the league endorsed a no-fly zone in Libya last spring, there was high praise in the west for its action. Its decision to mediate in Syria was less welcome to western governments, and to high-profile Syrian opposition groups, who increasingly support a military rather than a political solution. So the league’s move was promptly called into doubt by western leaders, and most western media echoed the line. Attacks were launched on the credentials of the mission’s Sudanese chairman. Criticisms of the mission’s performance by one of its 165 members were headlined. Demands were made that the mission pull out in favour of UN intervention.
The critics presumably feared that the Arab observers would report that armed violence is no longer confined to the regime’s forces, and the image of peaceful protests brutally suppressed by army and police is false. Homs and a few other Syrian cities are becoming like Beirut in the 1980s or Sarajevo in the 1990s, with battles between militias raging across sectarian and ethnic fault lines.
As for foreign military intervention, it has already started. It is not following the Libyan pattern since Russia and China are furious at the west’s deception in the security council last year. They will not accept a new United Nations resolution that allows any use of force. The model is an older one, going back to the era of the cold war, before “humanitarian intervention” and the “responsibility to protect” were developed and often misused. Remember Ronald Reagan’s support for the Contras, whom he armed and trained to try to topple Nicaragua’s Sandinistas from bases in Honduras? For Honduras read Turkey, the safe haven where the so-called Free Syrian Army has set up.
Here too western media silence is dramatic. No reporters have followed up on a significant recent article by Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer who now writes for the American Conservative – a magazine that criticises the American military-industrial complex from a non-neocon position on the lines of Ron Paul, who came second in last week’s New Hampshire Republican primary. Giraldi states that Turkey, a Nato member, has become Washington’s proxy and that unmarked Nato warplanes have been arriving at Iskenderum, near the Syrian border, delivering Libyan volunteers and weapons seized from the late Muammar Gaddafi’s arsenal. “French and British special forces trainers are on the ground,” he writes, “assisting the Syrian rebels, while the CIA and US Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause, enabling the fighters to avoid concentrations of Syrian soldiers …”
As the danger of full-scale war increases, Arab League foreign ministers are preparing to meet in Cairo this weekend to discuss the future of their Syrian mission. No doubt there will be western media reports highlighting remarks by those ministers who feel the mission has “lost credibility”, “been duped by the regime” or “failed to stop the violence”. Counter-arguments will be played down or suppressed.
In spite of the provocations from all sides the league should stand its ground. Its mission in Syria has seen peaceful demonstrations both for and against the regime. It has witnessed, and in some cases suffered from, violence by opposing forces. But it has not yet had enough time or a large enough team to talk to a comprehensive range of Syrian actors and then come up with a clear set of recommendations. Above all, it has not even started to fulfil that part of its mandate requiring it to help produce a dialogue between the regime and its critics. The mission needs to stay in Syria and not be bullied out.
© 2012 Guardian News and Media Limited
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Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered In US War And Occupation Of Iraq “1,455,590”
Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In U.S. War And Occupation Of Iraq 4,801
Number Of International Occupation Force Troops Slaughtered In Afghanistan : 2,863
Cost of War in Iraq & Afghanistan
$1,293,685,253,578
http://costofwar.com/en/
Cost of War to the United States
Total Cost of Wars Since 2001
$1,293,829,612,087
Cost of War in Iraq
$800,366,504,666
Cost of War in Afghanistan
$493,463,107,421
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January 19th, 2012, 3:40 pm
Ghufran said:
ما هي التكلفة التي يمكن ان يتحملها المجتمع سعيا للديمقراطية؟
نشر الصحفي البريطاني جوناثان ستيل تقريرا عن الاوضاع في سورية ذكر فيه ان استطلاعا للرأي اجرته “مؤسسة قطر” اوضح ان 55% من السوريين لا يرغبون برحيل الاسد، وذلك خوفا من حرب اهلية، لكنهم يريدون انتخابات حرة باشراف دولي.
الاستطلاع يوضح ان فريقا من السوريين يرى ان تكلفة تغيير النظام وتحقيق الديمقراطية مرتفعة للغاية، ولهذا يرفضونها ويريدون بدائل اخرى. على النقيض من ذلك اعلن مساعد مراقب عام الاخوان في سورية محمد فاروق طيفور رفض عرض وساطة من ايران يقضي بتولي الاخوان الحكومة بشرط بقاء الاسد ، وأكد اصرار الاخوان على رحيل الاسد حتى لو تطلب الامر تدخلا دوليا، وقال ان مثل هذا التدخل “يدين النظام”، ولا يدين الجماعة.
هناك نقاش ايضا في دول عربية اخرى تشهد احتجاجات مثل البحرين واليمن حول استمرار الاضرابات والمظاهرات التي تطالب بالتغيير.
هناك فريق يرى ان مثل هذه الاحتجاجات تؤدي لازمات اقتصادية واجتماعية يدفع ثمنها المواطن العادي، وبالتالي الاصلح للمجتمع ان تتوقف. لكن هناك من يرى انه لابد من استمرار جهود تغيير النظام أي كانت تكاليف هذا التغيير.
ما رأيك؟ ما هي حدود الممارسات المقبولة سعيا للديمقراطية والحرية؟
هل مقبول مثلا الاضرابات او اغلاق الشوارع لفترات طويلة او حرق سيارات الشرطة لتغيير النظام حتى لو ادى هذا لاضرار اقتصادية بالغة؟
هل اذا وصلت تكلفة تغيير النظام الى مستوى وقوع حرب اهلية تظل مقبولة؟ ومن الذي يحدد ذلك؟
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January 19th, 2012, 3:45 pm
aldendeshe said:
55. ALDENDESHESAID:
Damm, with all this wealth we can transfer the Middle East into another Singapore, so much money to be made and be hidden, washed clean. The whole Idea is smart but the implementation thereof is really flawed. It relied on false assumptions and stereotyped analysis and expectations. How can we convince the Israeli to start thinking out of the Negev Dessert sand box?
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January 18th, 2012, 2:34 pm
Holly Molly, how and why this comment above deserve 12 thumb downs? If you know me, you would know that I love to push everyone buttons. How can I find out some data why this particular comment, gave me the 2nd highest record thumb downs in 7 years on SC. I am willing to pay you by Paypal for this valuable info.
1- The word Damm (harmless, but maybe)
2- Transferring the Middle East into another Singapore (economic Development)
3- SINGAPORE, sucks, ( I don’t watch news maybe something going on)
4- So much money to be made ( someone likes poverty)
5- Money to be hidden ( if you to read the Agreement that is obvious, it said acct in the prince wife name)
6- Money washed clean ( what is new, how all the drug money trillions get into the system)
7- The whole idea is smart ( someone don’t think so)
8- Implementation is flawed ( that is obvious 11mo and have nothing to show for)
9- It relied on false assumptions ( that is why you are in standstill, read my comment on Juan Cole)
10- Convincing Israeli to think out of the box ( what is wrong with that? Everyone can benefit from it in the region)
11- Aldendeshe ( you just hate my family, we are not trash, we are noble and cannot get corrupted)
That is it, the entire comment, word by word. I am baffled, you see I studied marketing in the U.S. and for me; the reply is valuable information that is how pros operate.
And here:
56. AMIR IN TEL AVIV SAID:
SNP,
I’m not representing Israel on SC. I write what I think. I agree with you that the disintegration of Syria will be bad for Syrians and for the neighborhood. May be the Alawi controlled junta believes that it will be better for the Alawi sect, if their opponents are divided and fragmented. It is the junta that is creating this reality.
4 19
1- I’m not representing Israel on SC ( I guess they thought he is, disappointed them)
2- I write what I think ( Baathist Shia mafia kill for doing so)
3- I agree with you that the disintegration of Syria will be bad for Syrians and for the neighborhood (They don’t want Syrians and Israeli agree on anything)
4- May be the Alawi controlled junta ( they are Alawite Shia in control, that is no secret)
5- it will be better for the Alawi sect ( we know that is what they are promoting, sectarian fears)
6- It is the junta that is creating this reality. ( it is Bashar Assad Baathist mafia, maybe the Alawite junta marked 19 thumb down)
19 thumb downs for an honest talking Israeli, who unlike regime lackeys hiding behind western names and mastering the cut and paste technique of stupid regime propaganda that no one read, this Israeli have told us what his job in the army honestly. And Even Akbar Palace, said he is Jewish and monitor the blog for the word Zionism.
January 19th, 2012, 3:50 pm
zoo said:
An enthusiasic dissident benefits of the amnisty and joins the SNC.
Out of jail, lifelong dissident joins Syria revolt
http://news.yahoo.com/jail-lifelong-dissident-joins-syria-revolt-203035477.html
By DALE GAVLAK | Associated Press – 7 mins ago
AMMAN, Jordan (AP) — One of Syria’s most prominent dissidents, who worked for years against the Assad family regime, stepped out of prison two months ago to discover that his country was aflame with the revolution he long hoped for.
Jailed since 2005, Kamal al-Labwani had heard hints about what was happening on the outside the past year from visitors and even from guards. But prison authorities kept him and other prisoners under an information blackout — no newspapers or TV news over the past 10 months when hundreds of thousands of Syrians were taking to the streets nearly daily despite a relentless and bloody crackdown, demanding President Bashar Assad’s ouster.
So he was stunned to see the full extent of the revolt when he was freed in November as part of an amnesty Assad’s regime ordered as a reform gesture.
“I am seeing my long-time dreams come true, even better. For years, I dreamt of revolution, change. I was astonished to see it all happening,” the 54-year-old al-Labwani told The Associated Press this week in the Jordanian capital Amman, his voice welling with emotion.
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January 19th, 2012, 3:51 pm
defender said:
the best comment of 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COMzyrtEYuY
One day a Jewish grandmother had taken her grandson to the beach for a play when suddenly a huge wave washed over the infant and pulled him out to sea.
The distraught grandmother fell down on her knees, and sobbed, “Please God, don’t let my grandson die, please, he is my only grandson! He is the future of my family, please return him to me safely!”
Instantly another huge wave rolls the infant back onto the beach and the grandmother looks up to the sky and said, “He had a hat!”
January 19th, 2012, 3:54 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
149. defendersaid:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30289.htm
Most Syrians back President Assad, but you’d never know from western media
Assad’s popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west’s propaganda war
By Jonathan Steele
If that is the case, then Bashar Baathist, monopoly mafia regime, should not object at all to a United Nation implemented and monitored referendum on his Presidency vs. a program submitted by the oppositions. Why don’t we go to the SC and present our program for Syria and have them pass a resolution mandating, under chapter 7, this referendum. If he wins majority vote, we can live with this and accept this fair Democracy. If Syrians votes against him and his Baath monopoly, Socialist Monopolized economy, then he will dismantle all, hand power to opposition, and part his way. Should he agree, he gets to keep some cash and avoid the Haig, live in a.. well… not a sixty million Dollar mansion, maybe 4 million one on Lattakia coast.
January 19th, 2012, 3:58 pm
Tara said:
An opinion piece by Maysaloon:
The so-called Free Syrian army has been mounting bolder attacks, and has been maintaining a stout defence in Homs, the heartland of the Syrian revolution, as well as in the Zabadani and Madaya suburbs of Damascus more recently. It’s not clear how much longer they can maintain this, but I think the steady trickle of defections that are happening could start turning into an avalanche if this situation continues. On another front, the Syrian currency has recently sunk to a jaw-dropping low of 70.5 Syrian pounds to the dollar. Any more than that and the Syrian economy will start to go into free-fall.
I think all this discussion and condemnation of international intevention is a moot point. If this situation continues the way it is any longer, without one side trying to end the stalemate in its favour, then this regime could implode. Hezbullah daren’t get itself embroiled into a Syrian civil war and stretch itself with Israel lurking just south of the border, and Iran, with all its enthusiasm, is too far from Syria to do anything more than token support and advice. We’re not going to see divisions of the Quds brigade airlifted to Damascus just to prop up Assad, though we could start seeing a bigger spurt of suicide bombings, explosions and assassinations.
Still, the country is crumbling under the political crisis, and whilst Assad is preparing to dig himself deeply for a long fight, he might find himself a prisoner in his own palace, as he faces not just defected Syrian soldiers, but the economic influence of the wealthy, bourgeois, Syrian diaspora who are enthusiastically supporting the Syrian revolution.
January 19th, 2012, 6:31 pm
Tara said:
Syria pound hits record low as sanctions bite: traders
AMMAN (Reuters) – Conflict in Syria has pushed the pound currency to a record low of 70 to the U.S. dollar on the black market, exchange dealers said on Thursday, eroding a third of its value since an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad began 10 months ago.
Read more:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-syria-currencytre80i19e-20120119,0,3448114.story
January 19th, 2012, 6:54 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Tara,
Angry Arab has labeled the Free Army as “the Salafist FSA”. Your opinion ?
.
January 19th, 2012, 7:32 pm
irritated said:
Tara #155
“Iran, with all its enthusiasm, is too far from Syria to do anything more than token support and advice.”
My jaw dropped…She is obviously very bad informed or wishful thinking.
Iran is closer than it has ever been through Iraq. It is even accused recently by the US of delivering money and weapons and has been repeating that it will stand with the Syrian government.
“the wealthy, bourgeois, Syrian diaspora who are enthusiastically supporting the Syrian revolution.”
What about the wealthy, bourgeois Syrians in Syria, they don’t count in the equation? .
My jaw dropped again.
What an article….
January 19th, 2012, 8:04 pm
Tara said:
Amir,
And about every mnhebak on SC labeled me as either a Wahabi, a Zionist, wicked or ugly face yet, I am “not ugly”, nice, pro-Palestinian and too “liberal” for Arabic “taste”. I do not know who Angry Arab is but I also do not care to know. I wouldn’t want to read somebody who call himself Angry anything. His name does not interest me. The propagandists on SC quote him when they run out of propaganda material.
On a serious note, the FSA is composed of honorable men who refused to kill their own people. They are the real heroes who are willing to sacrifice their lives for the rest of us. They are my brothers and my neighbor brothers (not literally). As far as I know, there are no religious fanatics in Syria. People in Syria are afraid of god and invoke divinity during time of crisis, they fast and some pray but in general they are very moderate. Honestly, the only extremism I have been exposed to being Syrian is the extreme hatred I have felt from some Christians on SC. These people are the one who should be called Salafists, not the FSA.
January 19th, 2012, 8:17 pm
zoo said:
The FSA : Zabadani is the “first free town in Syria”, it is Benghazi!
Syrian town to become hub of armed resistance
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9026222/Syrian-town-to-become-hub-of-armed-resistance.html
Syrian insurgents who have claimed control of a mountain border town have added to the pressure on the Assad regime, saying it is to become a hub of armed resistance.
After five days of intensive battles, dozens of government tanks, along with armoured vehicles and infantry pulled back from the town of Zabadani following what was said to be a ceasefire agreement with opposition militias.
But the insurgents heralded the move as an unprecedented victory, claiming Zabadani to be the ‘first free town in Syria’ and a haven in which to build and strengthen their troops, as Benghazi became in the Libyan uprising.
“A lot of soldiers have refused to obey orders, and tried to escape,” said a resident, who gave his name as Zean al-Zabadani. “Many of them have been killed. We are going now release the soldiers from Bashar al Assad’s prison grip and help them to escape.
“But this is a tenuous safety. We are frightened that they will bomb us from the air, or try again to retake the town. We need international help to make this a real safe zone”.
Although the town is small and may yet come under renewed attack, its residents’ claims follow discussions by Syria’s neighbours of the creation of a “buffer zone” for the provision of aid, possibly supervised by outside military.
The Arab League is likely to discuss all options when it meets this weekend to discuss the report of its monitoring mission, which ended on Thursday.
Leaks said it would recommend the mission being extended, saying that while it had not stopped the violence, it had not made it worse.
League officials said the monitors would remain in Syria in the meantime.
Zabadani, close to the border with Lebanon, was among the towns visited by the monitors, who found its streets already taken over by opposition protesters. After the ceasefire was announced, video footage showed masked gunmen sitting on the bonnets of cars and leaning out of the windows of slowly moving vehicles, toting kalashnikov and rocket propelled grenades in a victory parade.
“The city is effectively under the control of the Free Syrian Army,” said Mohammed al Dais, from the Syrian Revolution General Commission. “They will use this time to create a safe space for Assad army soldiers to defect to. They need to create a stable, safe place where they can gather”.
Mr Dais said the regime acted out of concern for what might be said at the Arab League meeting if an attack went ahead.
“They have withdrawn from that area to release some pressure, and as a show of will to the international community.”
January 19th, 2012, 8:20 pm
Tara said:
Irritate,
Why is your jaw dropping too much? Do you have loose joints?
Governments has always two versions of any plan, one for media and public consumption, and the other a real one. Iran would help Besho the retard with money and logistic support. It will also import some terrorists from the IRG to cowardly kill our women and children but it will not fight a war for Besho’s blue eyes, a media war yes, but not a real war. They are much more savvy than that. They will make nice with the opposition when they feel that the balance of power is tilted toward the revolution.
January 19th, 2012, 8:29 pm
irritated said:
Tara #161
Nothing wrong with my jaws. It’s your Maysaloon’s article who inspired me:
‘a jaw-dropping low of 70.5 Syrian pounds to the dollar”
“They are much more savvy than that” I fully agree.
January 19th, 2012, 9:04 pm
Observer said:
The Syrian pound is being floated. I am not sure what that means and I am no economist and not sure the reasons or the consequences of it mean. It may lead to runaway inflation. One contact in Syria tells me that the fourth division was badly beaten in Zabadani. I fear there will be severe retaliation and the regime cannot afford to look weak.
The news are ominous; Russia has done its maximum, Iran’s help is being limited severely, KSA will pump 12 million barrels a day and replace Iranian crude, South Korea and Japan agreed to limit imports from Iran, the European and the US are being blackmailed by Israel to impose sanctions otherwise they will bomb Iran.
My best source of the wind change is Jumps a Lot Jumblat who is arguing for a political solution as the security solution has failed.
January 19th, 2012, 10:13 pm
irritated said:
Observer
“Jumblat who is arguing for a political solution as the security solution has failed.”
Can you elaborate? what political solution are you thinking of, the Russian one,the French one?
January 19th, 2012, 10:28 pm
zoo said:
Egyptian scholar says Islamist win is just a blip
Bradley Hope Jan 20, 2012
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/egyptian-scholar-says-islamist-win-is-just-a-blip
Gamal Al Banna, an Egyptian author and academic, is trying to contribute to what he calls the Islamic Renaissance.
CAIRO // When it comes to the political turmoil in Egypt, Gamal Al Banna is anything but short-sighted.
Indeed, the 91-year-old younger brother of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood sees developments through the lens of the 30,000 volumes of Islamic theory and world history that line the walls of his office near Bab Al Sheariya Square in downtown Cairo.
Looking elfin in a Moroccan hood and scarf behind a desk stacked with paper, he said the success of Islamist groups in parliamentary elections – the Muslim Brotherhood-backed Freedom and Justice Party won roughly 45 per cent of the seats in the lower house – was but a blip in Egyptian history.
“I’m completely unhappy with their victory, but it is not a major historic moment,” he said dismissively. “They are living in a different time than our contemporary one. I think they will fail to deliver a better society.”
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When politics and religion are mixed, the result is a path to totalitarianism, he said.
“When Christians merged politics with Christianity, they got the Spanish Inquisition.”
(…)
January 19th, 2012, 10:32 pm
zoo said:
Zabadani, Jabal al-Zawiya, and Bab Amro have been liberated – Sheikh Anas Airout
19/01/2012
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=28158
By Mohammed Al Shafey
London, Asharq Al-Awsat – Although he fled Syria for Istanbul in August 2011, the youth of the Syrian revolution still fondly recall Sheikh Anas Airout, Imam of the al-Rahman Mosque in Banias. They recall his fiery rhetoric denouncing the Bashar al-Assad regime and the leading role he played during the early days of the Syrian revolution. Many remember 11 March 2011 as the day that the Syrian revolution was born, with protests and demonstrations taking place in different Syrian cities demanding reform, including following Friday prayers at the al-Rahman Mosque in Banias. The following Friday, Sheikh Anas Airout called for the toppling of the al-Assad regime, whilst demonstrations and protests broke out across the country. It was his words that were repeated by the demonstrators’, such as his most famous quote “even if you kill us, our spirits will rise up from our graves and demand freedom.”
Speaking to Asharq Al-Awsat from Istanbul, Syrian National Council [SNC]-member Sheikh Anas Airout acknowledged that “the protests in Syria were launched from the al-Rahman Mosque, and the first demonstrations calling for the toppling of the regime took place in the streets of Banias where the unarmed youth confronted the blind killing machine of the regime and the violence of the Shabiha [militia].”
He added “the al-Assad regime called for my head, they wanted me, dead or alive, and they gave me the nickname ‘ras al-fitna” [head of the chaos]…therefore I had no choice but to leave the country.”
The al-Rahman Mosque Imam said “they gave me this nickname, but God protected me” revealing that he was present in a Banias house that was raided by Syrian security forces, but was able to avoid arrest.
As for the situation in Syria, and how he remains in contact with the revolution from Istanbul, Sheikh Airout told Asharq Al-Awsat that “there is daily communication and coordination with the [Syrian] revolutionaries via the internet, whether we are talking about the Syrian coastal area, including Banias, Tartus, Latakia, and Jabla, or the rest of the Syrian cities.”
The al-Rahman mosque imam also stressed that many Syrian districts and cities have been “liberated”, including Zabadani, Jabal al-Zawiya in Idlib, and Bab Amro in Homs.” He said “the youth of the Free Syrian Army [FSA] are in control of these areas, and the Shabiha [militia] and the regime’s forces are not able to enter.”
He clarified “on the ground, one can say that some cities are outside of the control of the regime, like Deraa, Homs, Idlib, Zabadani, and others are on the way. The extent of the division means that the Syrian regime army is no longer capable of suppressing all of these cities, in light of the terrible crime being committed by the Syrian regime and its security apparatus and Shabiha [militia].”
Sheikh Anas Airout told Asharq Al-Awsat “let me repeat that we began [the revolution] with God, we launched and took action with God, and we are not relying on anybody except God Almighty. We will continue and never back down, relying only upon God Almighty, and even if we are killed our spirits will rise up from our graves to demand freedom! We are not frightened of being arrested, and they [the Syrian regime] will never be able to weaken our resolve, because they are not fighting against a people, they are fighting against what is right!”
As for the claims of sectarian discrimination in the city of Banias, Sheikh Anas Airout confirmed this, saying “we have suffered from sectarianism for the last 40 years. For example, the high ranking posts in the oil companies [in Banias] are guaranteed to Alawites, whilst only a handful of Sunnis work in such companies.”
As for whether he had a message to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, he said “I continue to say to President al-Assad: as you were [previously] bold enough to label the protesters terrorists, be bold enough today to acknowledge that in Qardahah [home of the al-Assad family] there is an armed gang who are even better equipped than the Syrian security or intelligence apparatus, and they are working under their cover.”
He also stressed that “the protests in Banias, and the rest of Syria, will continue to demand freedom” regardless of any suppression or violence.
January 19th, 2012, 10:38 pm
zoo said:
Could Iran save the Syrian regime?
The imam sends a satrap
Friday 20 January 2012
By Amir Taheri
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=2&id=28160
After months of hand wringing and, perhaps, internal squabbles, Iran appears to have decided to play a direct role in shaping the outcome of the struggle over Syria’s future.
Several signs indicate the change in policy.
For almost a year, the state-owned media had tried to appear neutral on the Syrian issue. News of the uprising was either under-played or presented in a more or less balanced way, reflecting the views both of the Baathist regime and its opponents.
In recent weeks, however, the Khomeinist media have adopted a position openly hostile to the Syrian opposition.
….
Another sign that Iran may have decided to heighten its profile in Damascus is the increase in arms shipments to Syria. An Iranian air cargo company, Aseman [Airlines], reports a 50 per cent increase in flights to Damascus.
….
Yet another sign of Iran’s greater involvement in Syria is the recent visit to Damascus of General Qassem Suleimani who commands the Qods Force (Sepah Quds), an ad hoc military unit with the official mission of “exporting revolution”.
According to Tehran sources, Suleimani held a four-hour meeting with President Bashar al-Assad in Damascus to discuss “coordination of strategy to protect Syria against foreign conspiracies.”
Suleimani reports directly to the “Supreme Guide” Ali Khamenei. Thus, his visit might indicate that the ” Supreme Guide” has seized control of policy on Syria, by-passing President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Foreign Minister Ali-Akbar Salehi.
…
Sources in Tehran tell me that the “Supreme Guide” has decided to prevent the fall of Syria into “the camp hostile to the Islamic Republic.”
Could Iran save the Syrian regime?
Of course, Iran could ease the effect of sanctions on Syria by supplying it with money and arms. It could also play a role by bolstering the Syrian regime’s policy of trying to crush the revolt by killing and kidnapping.
General Suleimani already has a presence in Syria with a military mission of over 600 men. He could bring in units from the Lebanese branch of Hezbollah to help Syrian forces loyal to the regime. The Qods Force has trained hundreds of Hezbollah fighters for operations outside Lebanon. Suleimani has tested some of those fighters in operations in Iraq.
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Stronger support from Iran could also raise the moral of Syrian ruling elites, some of whom have began to waver in recent weeks. Some potential deserters from the Syrian security forces may decide to await the outcome of Iranian intervention before making their move.
Iranian intervention could also persuade Russia and China to continue dragging their feet over possible United Nations’ intervention to stop the massacre in Syria.
More importantly, as some circles in Tehran suggest, the Islamic Republic could promote a formula under which President Assad is asked to step down so that the Baathist regime could survive in a new configuration.
Despite all that, Tehran’s chances of success in Damascus are slim.
To start with, the Syrian armed forces have never really warmed to the Tehran-Damascus axis. Although the two countries have signed a defence pact, exchanges between Iranian and Syrian military have remained limited. Iran has more such exchanges with North Korea and Venezuela than with Syria.
Syrian elites are equally cool towards alliance with the Iranian imamate.
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Even if Tehran succeeds in making Suleimani de facto Satrap of Syria, the Syrian revolt may prove more resilient than Khamenei imagines. Ahmadinejad and Salehi have understood this. This is why, in cryptic style, they have tried to put some blue water between the Baathist regime and Iran.
Iran has no national interest in helping crush the Syrian uprising. Its military intervention could open the way for other nations to also send troops to Syria.
Prudence dictates that Iranian policymakers take into account the possibility that the Syrian revolt may succeed in bringing about regime change in Damascus.
By trying to prevent Syria from moving to the “hostile camp”, Khamenei and Suleimani may well render that inevitable.
January 19th, 2012, 10:47 pm
Ghufran said:
Letters
Syrian poll backing Assad has no credibility
reddit this
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 19 January 2012 16.00 EST
Article history
It is astonishing that you publish an article based on such poor evidence (Most Syrians back Assad, 18 January). We have no doubt that the Doha Debates are a respectable forum for dialogue, but in the poll Jonathan Steele quotes, 1,012 respondents completed the survey, with only 21% (211 respondents) from the Levant. Only 46% of those 211 were from Syria – that’s about 97 respondents. How can this possibly be representative of Syrian opinion? And is it even possible to conduct an objective opinion poll in a tyranny ruled by fear, where expressing opinions freely can lead to arrest, torture, and even execution? Steele talks about western media bias, but does not mention that very few journalists have been able to enter Syria legally. Those that do are kept under tight surveillance. Neither does he mention the role of Syrian state media in spreading disinformation and fuelling armed conflict. He seems to have set himself an impossible task – proving the legitimacy of a dictatorship which kills its citizens on a daily basis.
Anas El-Khani, Kinana Saffour, Anass Toma, Amr Salahi, Hamza al-Sibaai, Hussam Hajjouk
British Solidarity for Syria
• One has to wonder at the naivety of accepting the results of any opinion poll in Syria. Every phone, email, Facebook account and conversation is liable to be bugged. There is a large section of Syrian society trapped between a brutal regime they detest and a divided opposition they do not know, who are fearful of foreign intervention, or a civil war that would destroy the country they love. They are the key to Syria’s future.
Contrary to Steele’s argument that the media has ignored the armed uprising against Assad, I have lost count of the articles about the Free Syrian Army, that, if anything, overhype its strength. It also underplays the role of the huge numbers of peaceful protesters who march every day, putting their lives on the line. Yet one of the strangest things about Steele’s article is that, actually, for once, Nato states, especially Britain, are definitely not champing at the bit to intervene in Syria. Many Syrian opposition groups have been seeking their support for this in vain. It is as if, after seeing the west intervene all over the Middle East for decades, they refuse to, believe that on this occasion there will be no US cavalry coming to invade. In the US and Europe, there is no political will, no clear winnable military strategy, no electoral support nor the financial resources to intervene.
On one issue, Steele is right. Syria needs a strengthened monitoring presence. It has to be a team numbering thousands, properly trained, with leaders of impeccable credentials, and with a tough independent mandate that allows them to travel and communicate with complete freedom. Only then will the regime’s freedom to kill and torture be restricted.
January 19th, 2012, 11:28 pm
aldendeshe said:
“………More importantly, as some circles in Tehran suggest, the Islamic Republic could promote a formula under which President Assad is asked to step down so that the Baathist regime could survive in a new configuration….”
No way jose. Farsi Bakhtian /Bakhtiar to the Haig, he must pay for his crime and the Baath BANNED FOR 1000 years.
January 19th, 2012, 11:30 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Irritated
If your mouth drop any further, Shut it up with your hand ,if you can not shut your mouth, have someone else punch your jaw up it will shut up
January 19th, 2012, 11:37 pm
irritated said:
#169 Majedalkhadoon
I know you want me to shut up because I say the truth and you like to hear only yours.
Your threats do no impress me. Contrary to you, I only punch someone’s jaws in self defense not because they are kuffar or such imbecility of which you are a specialist.
January 20th, 2012, 12:10 am
Juergen said:
An other german tv journalist was allowed to film inside Syria.
Note the interview with Mohammed Hanous the governeur of Daraa. The reporter said that some dont like at all that they are in the country, and the governeneur seems to me like the prototype of an syrian government employee.
The reporter stressed that during this organized trip they did not get close to any people because the presence of the muhabarat was preventing any honest encounter, but one young man managed to give him a paper on which it said that the regime is not telling the truth. They let the reporters also visit an burned down courthouse. They have not cleaned it after the fire broke out in April.
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/syrien1052.html
January 20th, 2012, 2:59 am
Juergen said:
Syria’s prolonged descent into civil war
“For a civil war to break out in any given community, the parties concerned must first have the will to fight each other; and second they must have, or project, approximately the same amount of power. In other words, any party who wishes to fight a war must believe that he/she has the slightest chance to win it, or at least change the status quo. So far, these two elements are lacking.”
http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/syria-s-prolonged-descent-into-civil-war-1.968327
January 20th, 2012, 3:09 am
Khalid Tlass said:
TARA, we should not feel shy about Salafists, they will be an important component of post-regime Syria, and yes, FSA is Salafist, SO WHAT ?
January 20th, 2012, 3:57 am
Juergen said:
I dont know if this article was shared here before:
The Alawi Capture of Power in Syria
http://www.danielpipes.org/191/the-alawi-capture-of-power-in-syria
January 20th, 2012, 6:27 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Haytham Mannaa reiterated his opposition to the Free syrian army,this proves that he is unpatriotic, does he want the syrian soldiers to agree to kill syrian,as ordered by the Assad alawite officers?, he should be tried for his opposition to the FSA,he must understand that what saved Zabadai was the FSA,and what prevented the Alawite Assad criminal army from taking over Homs was the FSA, and what kept this revolution alive is the hope created by the presence of FSA, and what will change the regime is the FSA,
You can not win with demonstrations only,the assad syrian soldiers are Assad alawite,are killing the demonstrators, they are using violence in a brutal way,so far we lost over 10,000 young men,how many death he want to see before he is convinced that the regime will not change except by force, he is betraying the syrian blood, he is helping the regime,because of his lack of good vision, and he is cooperating with the persians,and betraying the Arabic cause,also he is delusional.His way is an invitation to more bloodshed,more martyrs,his ideas will lead to the end of this revolution, he has no support in the street,he has no future in the free Syria.
January 20th, 2012, 7:07 am
Juergen said:
When Gilles Jaquier died there were two swiss reporters also among the group of journalists whon visited Homs.
The two reporters say that the attack was planned by the regime and that the group of journalists were traped by the regime. When the mortar attack happend they had visited an pro Assad demonstration. When the first mortar hit the neighborhood their security rushed them into the car saying to them come lets see the attack from near. When they arrived at the scene of the attack Gilles was dragged outside by the security, his wife shoiuting at him not to follow them. The security brought all of them then into an building, and Gilles was killed inside the building when 2 more mortars hit the street.
Both said that they were left alone with one minder, before there was military also present, when the attack happened they were gone. They said that the military personal looked suspicious to them, like they have the plan of the attack already in their mind. Inside the building the two were brought up to the roof like the minders new exactly what will happen. They showed them a school building on the other street and it was hit after some seconds.They showed an house, it also was hit. They asked how can they know where the next mortar would hit?
Suddenly they said to us to go downstairs and there outside we saw Gilles was seriously injured and suddenly there were taxis waiting for us, which werent there before. Gilles wife was first not allowed to enter the taxi.
Minutes after the attack life was normal again, and we did not hear a single gunshoot after the attack. They have met terorrized people and people with much fear, those people know that the regime will do everything to survive even to sacrify their own people.
January 20th, 2012, 7:17 am
Juergen said:
My forbidden rights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5GuDVm3Ino&feature=g-all-u&context=G2a39b4bFAAAAAAAAJAA
with english subtitles if you click on cc in the player
January 20th, 2012, 7:26 am
Humanist said:
Re 102. Syrian Nationalist Party said:
“……Also Wednesday, representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood claimed to have rejected a proposal floated by Iran that that group be given control over the Syrian government in exchange for its agreement that Assad remain president…..”
I dont agree with your response on this.
Nothing to do with “nobilities”. Nothing to do with killed “moslem women” in Hama. MB are just very confident right know after their success in the elections in Egypt etc.etc…
They know they have Allah (or at least much of the arab street) on their side.
I am not sure they would have reject the same proposal a few years ago…
However, I am sure SNP would happily accept such an offer. Wouldn’t you?
January 20th, 2012, 7:51 am
Revlon said:
The real tactical reason/s for Assad’s army request to FSA for truce and for finally submitting to withdrawing from Zabadani are not clear to me.
Theoretically more Assad forces could have been ordered to flood Zabadani with hundreds of tanks and attacking copters used to neutralise FSA ground forces.
The scene of destruction of three tanks in this video raises the possibility that the attacking forces might have been decapitated as a result of seriously or mortally wounding its commander.
If that was the 4th brigade, the commander could have been an Assad family and the order to withdraw could have been handed by Anisa or even her sister!
17/01/2012
مضايا : تفجير مدرعة في سهل الزبداني من قبل الجيش الحر
January 20th, 2012, 8:36 am
norman said:
How can the opposition think that a country like this will come to save them,
بعد مقتل 4 من جنودها، فرنسا تعلق عملياتها العسكرية في افغانستان
January 20th, 2012, 8:51 am
Revlon said:
Piecemeal defection is steadily eroding Assad army.
These soldiers that defected in the linked video came from a wide range of Brigades and belong to various specialties.
Count wise, every defector is a gain for FSA and a loss for Assad army.
محافظة إدلب انشقاق جماعي 19-1-2012
January 20th, 2012, 9:14 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Revlon
I agree with you, the real reason for the withdrawal of Assad troops from Zabadani is enigma,
January 20th, 2012, 9:27 am
Revlon said:
180. Dear norman:
((How can the opposition think that a country like this will come to save them,
بعد مقتل 4 من جنودها، فرنسا تعلق عملياتها العسكرية في افغانستان
))
That is a responsible decision; life of their soldiers/citizens is a valued commodity.
France’s contribution, in case of intervention shall not involve soldiers on the ground. Therefore loss of combatants life shall not be a consideration.
Their contribution shall be limited to 24 hour air surveilance and readiness to take out any air or ground assaults on the enforced safety zones.
January 20th, 2012, 9:30 am
Revlon said:
Mr Nawaf AlBasheer has proven once again that confessions by arrested Syrian activists on official Regime TV stations are false.
Compare the following two videos; the first was taken while in custody with the Syrian regime while the other was taken right after his release and flight out of Syria.
These videos constitute learning material on how to tell when some one is lying from his body language!
الشيخ نواف البشير يفضح المعارضة المسلحة وقنوات العهر
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQCHiiALjlE&feature=related
Uploaded by THETRUESYRIA on Oct 13, 2011
الجزيرة الشيخ نواف البشير يدعو لتسليح العشلئر ودعم الجيش الحر
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Qzdsuldtb2s
Uploaded by shabab4souria on Jan 19, 2012
January 20th, 2012, 9:49 am
irritated said:
176. Juergen said:
Why would the security agents wanted to kill Jacquier and not the BBC journalist or the swiss journalists?
Jacquier’s visit was independently organized with the help of sister Agnes who is a regime supporter and he has been critical of Israel.
There will be many theories of plots behind this killing. I wont be convinced by an interview with reporters who start by saying the government was responsible before any serious inquest is done.I would prefer to hear the wife and the reporter who was inside the building with Jacquier and was safe.
Note that the BCC journalist who was present, was threatened by the opposition when he told his version of the situation.
Time will tell the truth , if ever.
January 20th, 2012, 10:34 am
irritated said:
184. Revlon
I wish Adnan Bakkour reappears, now he is not the only defector.
January 20th, 2012, 10:36 am
irritated said:
Majedalkhaldoon
“the real reason for the withdrawal of Assad troops from Zabadani is enigma”
Funny, when the events contradict your prediction, it becomes an “enigma”.
It is no enigma, it is clear like water. It is a very smart no-casualties military strategy of the Army.
Zabadani is now a prison for the FSA, they can demonstrate all day long, the army will not intervene. Why would they? There is no escape and help is impossible from the Lebanese side.
The FSA will be obliged to negotiate as their terrorist threats to break the water supply and electricity will have all the Syrians and the International community against them.
The FSA is in a dire and weak situation in Zabadani.
This is a reality, not an ‘enigma’
January 20th, 2012, 10:47 am
Revlon said:
شام طرطوس تعذيب المواطن حسام أحمد نابلسي من قبل عصابات الاسد +18
19/01/2012
Watch the interrogation of the badly tortured civilian, Mr Husam Ahmad AlNabilsi.
Notice the interrogator/s Jabali accent and their callous manners!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMksSxdEDN4
Here is a translation of the Q/A:
Q. What is your name?
A. Husam Al Nabilsi
Q. What is your Father’s name?
A. Ahmad Al Nabilsi.
Q. What is your Mother’s name?
A. Hiyam Mousa.
Q. What is your birth date?
A. 1980
Q. What is your wife’s name?
A. Farah Raslan.
Q. How many kids do you have?
A. 7 kids.
Q. What are the names of your kids?
A. Ahmad, hamzeh, Hiyam, Walaa, Rasha, Sana, and the little one.
Q. What is the name of the little one?
A. I have not had a chance to give her a name yet.
To those who romanticise about “peaceful change” and the need to “preserve the Syrian Institutions” I say:
Take a good look at this poor soul!
Then think for a moment that it was you or your brother who was interrogated in that video!
Now! What words would you have for those activists and bloggers who prefer the continuation of your misery for as long as it takes and keep the “revolution peaceful” over realising your dream of setting you free from torture, saving your life, and bringing you back to your family through campaigning for quick international military assistance to expedite the fall of the regime?!
Here is what I would say if I were in his place:
Brother! I can not take the pain any more. I feel I have been dying every day since I was arrested. Please take my place for one round of torture and may be I will understand you better!
January 20th, 2012, 10:49 am
zoo said:
Syria loses $2 bn over oil sanctions: minister
January 19, 2012 08:59 PM
Agence France Presse
DAMASCUS: Syria has lost more than $2 billion in revenues since September 1 as a result of European and US bans on importing its oil, Oil Minister Sufian Allaw said on Thursday.
“We have suffered important losses as a result of our inability to export crude oil and petroleum products,” Allaw told a news conference in Damascus.
“The shortfall and losses from September 1 until now add up to more than $2 billion,” he said.
“The oil embargo has caused a drop in production of 150,000 barrels, or $15 million, a day,” he said.
The United States has banned the importation of Syrian-origin petroleum and petroleum products. It also prohibits US nationals, wherever they are, from engaging in any transactions or dealings in or related to Syrian-origin oil.
Sanctions were slapped on five Syrian government companies — General Petroleum Corp, Syrian Co for Oil Transport, Syrian Gas Co, Syrian Petroleum Co and Sytrol.
The European Union has a ban on imports of Syrian crude, along with that of oil and gas equipment.
Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Business/Middle-East/2012/Jan-19/160446-syria-loses-$2-bn-over-oil-sanctions-minister.ashx#ixzz1k0xGycne
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
January 20th, 2012, 10:55 am
zoo said:
Meshal failed to pass on Arab League’s message to al-Assad – Sources
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=28170
…
“The Arab source also informed Asharq Al-Awsat that this message was viewed as representing interference in internal Syrian affairs, particularly as the Hamas movement is a guest in Syria, and so is in no position to get involved in Syrian affairs in this manner.
…
Senior Palestinian figures strongly criticized Hamas chief Khalid Meshal for his involvement in this issue, particularly PLO Executive Committee Secretary-General Yasser Abed Rabbo. Abed Rabbo stressed that Meshal had “no right to mediate on behalf of any regime – Syrian or any other”. “
January 20th, 2012, 11:07 am
Revlon said:
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
بيان صادر عن الجيش السوري الحر كتيبة الفاروق
قامت كتيبة الفاروق بالتصدي لكتائب الأسد في باب عمرو وتم تدمبرسيارتين تقل أمن وشبيحة ومعهم ضابط
http://www.freesyrianarmy1.com/
Two passenger cars belonging to Assad forces attempted to trespass Baba Amr.
They were confronted by FSA units and they were taken out along with their commanding officer.
20/01/2012
January 20th, 2012, 11:12 am
Revlon said:
Interesting observations on attempts by regime to introduce reforms through more corruption!
بإسهاب فضح النظام السوري وقانون الأحزاب !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SJ8r9qa7kGU#!
Uploaded by syrian4all on Jan 18, 2012
النظام المتهالك لايزال يدعي أنه مرغوب به ويعلم يقيناً أن إصلاحه يعني سقوطه ولذلك يحاول الكذب والمراوغة في كل شي .. دراسة لقانون الأحزاب وتعديله والأحزاب الخلبية المؤلفة من أبواق النظام وشبيحته والتي تقدمت للترخيص
January 20th, 2012, 11:29 am
ann said:
Anti-government protesters rally in northern Syria, violence ongoing as AL mandate expires – 2012-01-21
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/21/c_122613120.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 20 (Xinhua) — Around 5,000 people staged anti- government protests Friday in Syria’s northern province of Idlib as chaotic incidents took place in other parts of Syria.
About 5,000 people took part in anti-government protests in Idlib and its suburbs on Friday, a source in Idlib told Xinhua on condition of anonymity.
The protests only lasted for half an hour, the source said, adding that anti-government protesters stage rallies every week in that troubled area.
“Armed men” took over the national hospital in Idlib and took photos of the injured people to send them later to satellite TV stations, portraying them as victims of the government crackdown, said the source.
The remarks, however, couldn’t be independently verified.
Meanwhile, the private Sham FM radio reported that an explosive device went off in Ariha area near Idlib, causing little damage.
In central Homs province, another hub of armed insurgency, border guards thwarted Friday an attempt of smuggling weapons from neighboring Lebanon through the border area of Tahunat Halat, the report added.
Also in Homs, nine gunmen were killed while planting an explosive device which went off during the planting process at Bab Sba’a neighborhood, according to the report.
Another explosive device went off at the Salah El-Din area in northern province of Aleppo, leaving two law-enforcement members injured, the report said, adding that anther device was detonated Friday at a house in coastal Latakia city. The owner of the house was killed in the blast, the report added.
In the meantime, the state-TV reported that crowds of Syrians staged pro-government rallies in several areas across Syria to express support to embattled President Bashar al-Assad, who is facing mounting international pressures.
The Syrian government said in December 2011 before the arrival of Arab League (AL) monitors that more than 2,000 army and security personnel were killed during the months-old unrest. The United Nations puts the overall toll in Syria at more than 5,400, with at least 400 killed since the observers arrived.
Violence shows no sign of abating as the mandate of Arab monitors expired on Thursday evening.
Qatar, which leads the AL ministerial committee concerned with the Syrian crisis, said the Arab observer mission has failed. Qatar Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al Thani said in excerpts of an interview released last week that he favored sending Arab troops to Syria to stop the violence there, citing the observers’ failure to curb the escalating violence in the Middle East nation.
The emir’s remarks were flatly rejected by the Syrian government. The Syrian foreign ministry said in a statement that Syria “rejects all kinds of foreign intervention in its affairs, under any title, and would confront any attempt to infringe upon Syria’s sovereignty and integrity of its territories.”
The emir became the first Arab leader to publicly suggest military intervention in Syria and the proposal has not been echoed by any other members of the AL.
Head of the Arab observer mission in Syria Moustafa al-Dabi will submit his report to Arab foreign ministers at their upcoming meeting on Sunday. The ministers will decide whether to seek an agreement from Damascus to extend the mission for another month.
On Thursday, a senior NATO official denied that the alliance has any intention of direct military intervention in Syria.
“There is no planning and we are not thinking about an intervention,” General Knud Bartels, the head of NATO’s Military Committee, said after a two-day meeting of NATO military chiefs.
He said that nations from NATO’s Mediterranean Dialogue, a forum which gathers Algeria, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Mauritania, Morocco and Tunisia, expressed concerns about the upheaval in the region, but “there was no discussion at all of a military intervention.”
January 20th, 2012, 11:37 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Irritated
What is wrong with you?
first you said the FSA are completely eliminated in Zabadani.
Now you say
Zabadani is now a prison for the FSA
if you keep zigzaging and say opposite things ,everyone will think you are not normal
January 20th, 2012, 11:47 am
ann said:
Japan extends peace keeping missions in Golan Heights – 2012-01-20
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/20/c_131370729.htm
TOKYO, Jan. 20 (Xinhua) — Japan’s government on Friday decided that it would extend tours of duty for its Self-Defense Forces who are in Haiti and Golan Heights on United Nations-led peace keeping missions.
In the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, the SDF who have been there since 1996 to aid a truce between Israel and Syria, will see their mission extended by six months until the end of september, the government also said here on Friday.
The decision came as a part of Japan ongoing commitment to assist international efforts to encourage and facilitate the peace process in the Middle East, government officials said.
Forty-six SDF members are involved in supporting the cease-fire between Israel and Syria and transporting daily essentials and other key roles as part of the UN Disengagement Observer Force, which has been active in the region since 1974.
January 20th, 2012, 11:51 am
ann said:
*** BLOOD THIRSTY ISLAMIST TERRORIST COWARD KILLERS AT WORK ***
Syria’s raging violence results in economy, human losses – 2012-01-20
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/20/c_131371296.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 20 (Xinhua) — The 10-month-old violence that has swept Syria is suffocating the country’s economy and targeting government forces including high ranking officers, as well as civilians.
On Thursday, a brigadier general and two security force members were killed by the gunfire of “armed terrorist groups” at the district of al-Jarajmeh in central province of Hama, according to official SANA news agency.
An official source was quoted by SANA as saying that an armed terrorist group opened fire on a police patrol in the district, killing Brigadier General Adel al-Mustafa and two security force members.
In Daryya, a district of the capital Damascus, another armed group opened fire on the former head of the city municipality and killed him in front of his house. The state-run agency also reported that the head of an Electricity Department in Douma area, just outside Damascus, was killed Thursday along with a technician in the same department.
The disfigured bodies of the electricity department’s members were found dumped in the street in Douma after being kidnapped by “armed terrorist groups,” said SANA.
At Tadamun neighborhood in Damascus Thursday, an armed group blew up an explosive device in the car of a civilian, who was seriously injured as one of his legs were amputated by doctors, said SANA.
In northern Aleppo province, the second largest city in Syria, two explosive devices planted by “armed terrorist groups” near Oweis al-Karni Mosque were dismantled on Thursday, SANA said, adding that a stun grenade exploded at the same place, causing no damages.
The Syrian government says that the turmoil in Syria is plotted by terrorists and foreign-backed armed gangs. It said more than 2, 000 army and security personnel were killed during the months-long unrest, while the United Nations put the death toll in the country at more than 5,000.
Meanwhile, Syrian Oil Minister Sufian Allaw said Thursday that the terrorist acts carried out by armed groups against oil pipelines and other oil institutions, in addition to EU sanctions on Syrian oil, have extremely damaged Syria’s oil sector, totaling the damage at 2 billion U.S. dollars.
Allaw said at a press conference that the damage that befell oil institutions is estimated at 2.1 billion Syrian pounds (about 35.7 million U.S. dollars), noting that 21 people were killed and 24 others wounded from the oil sector, in addition to five others who were kidnapped throughout the past 10 months.
The minister said 43 vehicles related to oil institutions were damaged, adding that damages in oil buildings were also estimated at 2.134 billion Syrian pounds (36.278 million dollars).
He said “terrorists” have primarily targeted the oil sector for its “economic and vital importance and to cause big damages to this sector.”
The minister said the size of damage resulted from halting oil exports and other oil derivations was estimated at 2.1 billion dollars.
He said the sanctions imposed by European countries on Syria have halted the exportation of 150,000 barrels a day. This, according to the minister, has left around 2000 employees jobless.
The minister said Syria’s needs of gas, fuel and gasoline come mainly from Venezuela. He added that Syria’s oil output that stood at 380,000 barrels a day has reduced currently to 220,000-250,000 barrels a day, noting that there is no oil exports at all.
On Wednesday, Minister of Electricity Imad Khamis said at a press conference that recent attacks carried out by armed and terrorist groups have inflicted big damage on distribution networks and maintenance workshops.
The minister said that the direct material damage inflicted upon the networks is valued at nearly 713 million Syrian pounds ( 12.1 million dollars) whereas the value of indirect economic damage, which hit the national economy, reached around 23 billion syrian pounds (391 million dollars).
The minister noted the efforts exerted by the ministry in coordination with the authorities concerned to control energy demand in light of current circumstances.
He also said that terrorist attacks at gas pipelines and railways that ferry fuel to power generating stations have undermined some of those stations while the others are operating with partial capacity.
Two weeks ago, an armed group attacked a gas pipeline near al- Rastan town in central Syria that feeds al-Zara and al-Zayzoun power stations.
At least five pipelines have been targeted since the eruption of unrest in Syria in mid March, 2011. Syria held what it called ” saboteurs” responsible for the attacks.
In July, 2011, fire damaged a natural gas pipeline in Deir el-Zour. Another oil pipeline was blasted in Talkhalakh area in Homs on July 29 last year.
On Dec. 27, 2011, a gas pipeline was targeted by an explosive device planted by “terrorist groups” at the north of al-Ashrafiya village.
On Dec. 13, 2011, Syrian government said gunmen blew up a gas pipeline in Homs, causing minor damages. A week earlier, another oil pipeline in Homs was targeted. No injuries were reported in the three attacks that hit Syria in one month.
January 20th, 2012, 12:03 pm
Tara said:
Irritated,
“help is impossible from the Lebanese side”
Can you please read your opinion before you share with us. I thought most FSA’s weapons are smuggled from Lebanon or sold by the Syrian occupying army to the revolutionists. You guys also told us that “Lebanese Qaeda” are helping the revolution. Now all of the sudden, you opinionated that help is impossible from Lebanon? Was that an opinion or wishful thinking?
Anyhow, it is good to be hopeful, to a certain degree though other wise you end up heartbroken.
January 20th, 2012, 12:12 pm
newfolder said:
very significant and interesting development. protest in liberated Zabadani today with Alawi involvement
January 20th, 2012, 12:34 pm
jad said:
Mr. Haytham Manna:
-International military intervention is rejected, period.
-The fsa armed militias attacks are unhelpful and wrong, they spread violence.
-The civil movement is fading because of the volatile situation.
-Sectarianism will lead to a civil war where everybody loose.
هيثم مناع: لن نبيع الجولان مقابل استقدام الناتو ولا بأي ثمن
“القاهرة- (د ب أ): أكد هيثم مناع المعارض السوري البارز ورئيس ما يعرف بهيئة التنسيق الوطنية أنه يرفض أن يكون إرسال قوات عربية لسورية مقدمة أو محاولة توطئة للتدخل العسكري الغربي.
وشدد مناع في اتصال هاتفي أجرته معه وكالة الأنباء الألمانية من القاهرة على أن “القوات العربية مرحب بها شريطة ألا تكون توطئة للتدخل العسكري الغربي من قبل مجلس الأمن أو أي حلف عسكري كحلف شمال الأطلسي (ناتو)”.”
“ووصف مقترحات بعض أطياف المعارضة السورية باستقدام الناتو أو أي تدخل عسكري بالاقتراحات اليائسة والمسعورة، وقال: “هؤلاء(أصحاب هذه المقترحات) يريدون الوصول للسلطة ولو على دبابة أمريكية أو تركية..” معتبرا أن “من لديه ثقة أن الناس سوف تؤيده لا يحتاج لتدخل عسكري خارجي”.
وفي إشارة إلى أن الناتو يتحرك وفقا لمصالحه ، قال إن “”الناتو ليس جمعية خيرية وقد تدخل بليبيا من أجل النفط والآن يتردد أن صحراءها قد تحولت لقواعد عسكرية له ، وأنا أتساءل ماذا سيكون الثمن لدينا بسورية خاصة ونحن لا نملك النفط؟”.”
“وشدد مناع على رفضه أن تتحول الثورة السورية لساحة تصارع إقليمية مذهبية، وانتقد الإعلام الخليجي ورأى أنه “يجمل صورة التدخل التركي لأن الأخير إخوانجي. وهناك تحالف ما بين دول الخليج وتركيا على أساس الاشتراك سويا بالمذهب السني في مواجهة إيران الشيعية ، وأنا كسوري أقول ما دخلنا نحن بهؤلاء جميعا : أهم شيء عندي هو وحدة الثورة السورية”.
وأعرب هيثم مناع عن رفضه التدخل التركي محذرا من أنه إذا كان “الإسلاميون سعداء به فإن العلمانيين والأقليات السورية القومية والدينية ضده، فالأرمن مستعدون لقتاله وكذلك الكرد.. وبالأساس الشعب السوري لن ينسي 60 عاما من الصراع مع تركيا”.”
“وأستنكر مناع اتهامات البعض له بأنه عميل للنظام السوري نتيجة لرفضه التدخل العسكري الغربي وكذلك أستنكر تصنيفه بالمعارضة المصطنعة التي تبرر وجود النظام ولا تطالب بإسقاطه ، مشددا بالقول :”نحن بالتأكيد ضد هذا النظام الحقير ومع سقوطه اليوم قبل غد ولكننا لم نفقد البوصلة بعد”.
وتابع :”عيب على الذين ليس لهم أدنى علاقة بالثورة والشهداء أن يتهموني في وطنيتي، هؤلاء ممن أسميهم فريق المعارضة مدفوعة الأجر الذين لا علاقة لهم بالثورة والشهداء سوى التكسب من وراء ترديد الترحم عليهم في الفضائيات بينما يعاني أهالي الشهداء العوز والفقر… لقد سقط من عائلتي 12 شهيدا واعتقل 156 ولا نزال ندافع عن الثورة وسنظل لأن هذا واجبنا”.
ولفت مناع إلى تراجع الحراك المطالب بالثورة في الشارع السوري مؤخرا، مرجعا ذلك للبعد عن الطريق والهدف الأساسي في سلمية الثورة حتى إسقاط النظام، وأوضح: “كثير من الناس لا ينزلون للمظاهرات الآن إلا بعد أن يعرفوا شعارها فهم لا يكترثون لقضية العلم جديد أم قديم أو قضية الجيش السوري الحر”.
وتابع :”الناس تريد الخلاص من الديكتاتورية ومرحلة انتقال هادئة ومستقرة ومؤسسات جديدة دون عسكرة كما حدث بالنموذج التونسي فلماذا نصر نحن على النموذج الليبي”.”
“وشكك مناع في الأعداد المنضوية للجيش السوري الحر وانتقد كذلك نوعية عملياته، وقال :”لقد قام ذلك الجيش بضرب مركز تابع للمخابرات في حرستا وفي الأسبوع التالي قامت السلطة بضرب مركزين لأمن الدولة بدمشق وألصقت التهمة به وصارت البلاد في فوضى وأصبح هناك مناطق لا يتظاهر بها أحد خشية حدوث انفجارات مماثلة .. ولو كانت عملية ضرب المركز إيجابية لما أعادت السلطة إنتاجها فالأخيرة لن تقلدك إلا إذا كان لديك عامل خاطئ وبالتالي يصب عملك في مصلحتها”.
وتابع :”تسليح الثورة خطأ استراتيجي لأن نظام بشار يملك مليون عسكري وبالتالي هو الأقوى عسكريا ، لكن الثورة أقوى سلميا والعالم كله تعاطف معها عندما أعلنت سلميتها ونبذها للطائفية ورفضها للتدخل الخارجي”.
وحذر مناع من أن سورية الآن تقف على مفترق طرق صعب ، وأحد الاحتمالات التي تواجهها هي خطر الحرب الأهلية ولا يوجد طريق لإسقاط طريق الحرب الأهلية والابتعاد عن الحرب الإقليمية وسقوط بشار إلا بالتمسك بسلمية الثورة ونبذ الطائفية وعدم الخوض في أي تفاوض مع السلطة.
ورأى أنه “بقدر ما تكون الثورة سلمية كلما اتسعت قاعدتها الشعبية ، كما ستقنع عددا كبيرا من الضباط الشرفاء بأن يغيروا كفة الميزان لصالحها لأن العسكري يتخندق في الجهة التي ينتمي إليها إذا كانت المواجهة عسكرية أما إذا كانت الثورة سلمية فالعسكري قد يتخلي عن الأوامر ويرفضها.”
January 20th, 2012, 12:35 pm
irritated said:
#194 Majedalkhadoon
Where did I say ‘eliminated’ ? I said neutralized.
Obviously you don’t see the difference. I guess the ‘abnormal’ one is not me.
Years in the USA seem to have harm you beyond repair without improving your understanding of english .
January 20th, 2012, 12:35 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
178. Humanist said:
However, I am sure SNP would happily accept such an offer. Wouldn’t you?
@HUMANIST
Why on hell you are sure of that, you are not in the know that for sure!!!%$#@%
We will never work under Baathists (our ardent and only enemy). In the past, we did make a separation between Assad and Baath. There were times in the past 7 years, that should Assad agreed to have us open office in Syria, SNP will be close to advises him on reform issues and press him on turning Syria into a decent country, meaning, using Assad to fulfill SNP agenda and program, since we are getting too old and tired to want his job. But will never directly work under a Baathist ruled Syria, will not even work alongside Baathists if they have constitutionally or practically the upper hand and control of Syria.
Since the Conspiracy aided Revolution started, and we had about 4 months advance knowledge of its minute details, and that we will be “LEFT OUT” LOL&LOL (who should I send thank you note to). SNP begged Assad and Iran to support us in having this footprint in Syria, so that we can basically render advice based on what we know, but Iran said they “will only help Moslems” and Assad practically banned us before we are in Syria.
There are other issues, personal in nature that will hinder us from working under / with the Baathist, many SNP members have a set of personal issues. For me personally, return of family property and compensation, implementing 40 years old court decisions and orders that could not be enforced because a higher military man said so. The land worth less than what I make in a month, but it is not a material issue, it is DIGNITY. Needless to say, Asef Shawkat was a little boy peasant in my grandma village of Madhale, it was very humiliating for my uncle, a Sorbonne graduate lawyer working in Tripoli-Lebanon to agree, under duress, to the sale of the land to Asef, although they were forceful, but respectful.
As an American raised and trained person I personally try to look at these peasants in an American life prism. That is I accept the [Social Mobility] concept. However, what I find it not acceptable, is that, in America, that Social mobility is achieved by the person, or a minority group, own ingenuity, talent, ideas, hard work, education and all out effort, whereby the State and Nation benefits tremendously from their drive to achieve that upward status, not as the Baathists did at gun point and by robbing others, by the use of deadly force, confiscation of others properties, illegal seizure of state power, monopolizing the state, and the entire economy into a one Mafia. Other in SNP, and we represent the Syrian social mosaic, some in Europe don’t accept the Social Mobility concept and are adamant at having this peasant rule out and they be compensated for stolen industries that now are being privatized (given to Baathists insiders) instead to being turned back to the original owners.
There were time, when a possible working relation with the regime, should it had taken the reform option possible, if all other oppositions join in as well. That is now not possible, and the regime is breathing last breath. SNP can implode it in three months should we have the sufficient fund, but elected to save our own cash for rainy day since it is imploding anyway.
It is the day after that we are now planning for. It is obvious that there exist someone else plan and conspiracy that is riding along the overall objective of Syrian Revolution. In fact, there are competing plans and conspiracies: The Americans (WASP) has one, the American Neocons/CIA/One World’ers has another, the French, British, Russians, Turks, Saudi, Qatari, Iranians and Israel all have competing plans and agendas, and each apparently out to shape the end result of the game in their favor. As they say in Syria: من كترة الطباخين بالمطبخ احترقت الطبخة
January 20th, 2012, 12:36 pm
jad said:
Le fiasco des barbouzes français à Homs
La mort en Syrie du journaliste Gilles Jacquier
“Alors que Paris accuse Damas d’avoir organisé l’assassinat du journaliste de France-Télévisions Gilles Jacquier à Homs, une équipe de journalistes russes vient de présenter une toute autre version des faits. Selon leur enquête, M. Jacquier commandait sous couverture de presse une opération des services secrets militaires français qui a tourné au fiasco. Les accusations françaises ne sont qu’un moyen pour masquer la responsabilité de Paris dans les actions terroristes entreprises pour déstabiliser la Syrie.”
{…}
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Le-fiasco-des-barbouzes-francais-a-Homs-10001.html
المعارضة الفرنسية تشن هجوماً كبيراً على ساركوزي وتنشر تحقيق بغاية الأهمية عن مقتل جيل جاكييه بناء على شهادة الصحفيين الروس عن الحادثة:
وفي ملخص لهذه المقالة :
جيل جاكييه أصر أنه ليس هناك تهديد عليه في حمص لأنه لا يوجد إرهابيون ولا عصابات مسلحة برأيه، ورفض مرافقة الأمن عدة مرات، وأصر على البقاء إلى ما بعد الثالثة ظهرا رغم أن المحافظ اتصل به وأمره بالمغادرة بأسرع ما يمكن، وكان قد رفض ارتداء الخوذة والسترة الواقية، واستأجر عددا من مواطني حمص كأدلاء له، وكان لديه مواعيد مع ناشطين في الحارات العلوية وفي بابا عمرو.
يقول المحللون العسكريون أن القذائف كانت تستهدف طاقم قناة الدنيا الذي كان يصور في نفس المنطقة، وقد استخدمت القذائف الأولى لضبط الهدف ثم جاءت القذيفة الأخيرة على مدخل البناء الذي كان طاقم الدنيا على سطحه، ولكن جيل جاكييه كان في نفس البناء وقد اندفع إلى الخارج معتقدا أن القصف قد انتهى، ولكن عندما وصل إلى الباب انفجرت القذيفة وقتلت معه ستة من طاقم الحراسة المرافق لتلفزيون الدنيا.
مع حضور السفير الفرنسي وطاقمه تم منع التواصل مع كل طاقم جيل جاكييه، بما فيه الصحفية كارولين بوارو التي دخلت حالة صدمة وكان من الممكن أن تقول أشياء كثيرة، كما تم منع تشريح جثة جاكييه لتحديد نوع القذيفة التي استهدفته.
تروي المقالة تفاصيل أخرى عن حياة جاكييه، وتخلص إلى أنه كان في مهمة من المخابرات الفرنسية تتعلق بالإيرانيين المخطوفين في حمص. ولذلك فقدجاء السفير الفرنسي بعد الحادثة فورا لإخراج طاقمه العسكري، وترك في مسرح الأحداث المراسلة الفرنسية الوحيدة المدنية، وهي مراسلة فرانس برس. وقد أرسل الطاقم لأخذ أغراضه من الفندق، ثم انتقل مباشرة إلى مطار دمشق ليرحل فورا على متن طائرة خاصة أرسلتها وزارة الدفاع الفرنسية.
ولمنع المراسلين الفرنسيين الحقيقيين من كتابة الحقيقة، ظهر فريق المخابرات الفرنسية على كل شاشات التلفزيون العلمية وبدؤوا ترويج الأكاذيب عن مقتل جيل جاكييه بشكل مكثف
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by: HNN| شـبكة أخـبار حمص
January 20th, 2012, 12:54 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Irritated
1147. irritated said:
$1145 Majedalkhaldoon
“I think the FSA was trapped and rounded up in Zabadani and about to be totally crushed as I had predicted.”
Rounded up and totally crushed
now Irritated says
#194 Majedalkhadoon
“Where did I say ‘eliminated’ ? I said neutralized.”
Irritated do you see how crazy you are.
January 20th, 2012, 12:58 pm
defender said:
Governments generally choose their words carefully when speaking to each other. The fact that we have the head Russian diplomat saying this is not a small matter by any stretch.
‘Chain reaction’ is a term used in discussing events whereby a release of energy at an exponentially-increased level, takes place, and while it can be associated with chemical chain reactions, it is generally understood that it refers to nuclear fission.
The Russians understand that Israel, America and the west have lost their minds and are on the rampage in causing havoc across the world, and Russia is on the list of targets, due to her natural resources and the fact that she refuses to be a pawn to the New World Order. Putin gave a speech several years ago while still President whereby he said that Russia needs a strong defense so that she does not end up like Iraq, signalling to the Beast that she knows she is in their sites but will not go down like other countries.
In other words, what Russia is saying here is that if Israel–through her ‘Christian’ surrpgates like the US, GB, France, et al attack Iran, it will drag Russia into it, and what started off as just another innocent country being attacked will lead to WWIII.
AND REMEMBER PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY YOU IN THE US, EVERY GODDAMNED ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND THOSE SEEKING THE WHITE HOUSE ARE WORKING TOWARDS BRINGING THIS ABOUT–THE DESTRUCTION OF YOUR WORLD AND YOUR LOVED ONES.
independent.co.uk
January 20th, 2012, 1:19 pm
jad said:
What are the alternatives to the military intervention in Syria:
البدائل المقترحة لخيار التدخل العسكري ضد سوريا
الجمل: تزايد إدراك الأغلبية العظمى من الخبراء والمراقبين والمحللين السياسيين بأن خيار التدخل العسكري الخارجي لم يعد ممكناً في سوريا، وتأسيساً على ذلك، برزت العديد من التساؤلات حول كيفية تعامل خصوم دمشق الدوليين والإقليميين مع ملف الحدث الاحتجاجي السياسي السوري خلال المرحلة القادمة، وبالذات بعد انتهاء مهمة بعثة المراقبين العرب: فما هي طبيعة هذه التساؤلات وما هي البدائل المحتملة لخيار التدخل العسكري الخارجي في سوريا؟
* ترسيمات الوضع القائم: الحقائق الجديدة
تقول المعلومات والتسريبات، بأن الأكثر احتمالاً هو أن تسعى الجامعة العربية لجهة تمديد فترة عمل بعثة المراقبين، إضافة إلى محاولات إجراء بعض التعديلات الإضافية، وأشارت التسريبات إلى أن زيادة عدد المراقبين وتمديد الفترة يمكن أن تكون أموراً ممكنة، ولكن ما هو غير ممكن هو أن تسعى الجامعة العربية لجهة تعديل “ولاية” بعثة المراقبين العرب بما يجعلها تتخطى دورها الحالي باتجاه تجاوز الخطوط السياسية الحمراء، والتي سعت دمشق منذ البداية لجهة مقابلتها بالرفض القاطع.
تحدثت التحليلات والتسريبات قائلة، بأن سبب قيام الجامعة العربية بتمديد فترة بعثة المراقبين العرب في سوريا يعود إلى أسباب عديدة، منها:
• الرغبة في عدم الدخول في تصعيدات عدائية جديدة مع دمشق.
• الرغبة في الحصول على المزيد من المعلومات، بما يجعل مشهد الحدث السوري أكثر وضوحاً.
• الرغبة في كسب الوقت إلى حين تتم عملية التغلب على الخلافات بين العواصم العربية إزاء الملف السوري.
• الرغبة في تفادي الضغوط الخارجية الدولية بواسطة خصوم دمشق الدوليين وبالذات أطراف مثلث واشنطن ـ باريس ـ لندن، وبعض خصوم دمشق العرب والشرق أوسطيين.
هذا، وتشير المعطيات الجارية إلى أن الفريق مصطفى الدابي رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب سوف يقدم اليوم تقريره للجنة الجامعة العربية، وأضافت التقارير والمعلومات بأن المجلس الوطني السوري المعارض، قد أعلن صراحة الآتي:
• اعتبار مهمة المراقبين العرب بأنها فاشلة.
• اتهام رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب بأنه متورط في حروب إقليم دارفور السوداني.
• مطالبة الجامعة العربية بسحب بعثة المراقبين العرب وعدم اعتماد تقريرها.
هذا، وأضافت التقارير والمعلومات بأن المعارضة السورية الخارجية قد سعت لجهة العمل من أجل تجميع عدد كبير من المنظمات غير الحكومية ومنظمات المجتمع المدني التابعة لخصوم دمشق، وذلك بما يتيح بناء تحالف دولي مدني غير حكومي لجهة الضغط على الجامعة العربية، والأمم المتحدة، والدول الكبرى من أجل القيام بالتدخل العسكري الدولي ضد سوريا.
* مأزق خصوم سوريا الدوليين والإقليميين: الدخول في الشبكات والتأمل في الخروج
سعى خصوم سوريا الدوليين والإقليميين ومعهم المعارضة السورية الخارجية، لجهة دعم إرسال بعثة المراقبين العرب إلى سوريا، وذلك من أجل تحقيق هدف وحيد هو إثبات صحة اتهامات ومزاعم المعارضة السورية، بما يتيح لاحقاً بناء ملف تدويل الحدث الاحتجاجي السياسي السوري ضمن نفس سيناريو تدويل الحدث الاحتجاجي السياسي الليبي، ولكن بعد دخول بعثة المراقبين العرب إلى سوريا برزت النقاط الآتية:
• استطاعت بعثة المراقبين العرب التعرف ميدانياً على الحقائق الرئيسية، الأمر الذي أبطل قدراً هائلاً من مزاعم المعارضة السورية الخارجية، إضافة إلى أن معلومات بعثة المراقبين العرب أصبحت أكثر فعالية في كسر احتكار المعارضة الخارجية للمعلومات المتعلقة بالوضع السوري.
• تصريحات رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب، وبعض أعضاء البعثة، أثارت حفيظة أطراف مثلث واشنطن ـ باريس ـ لندن، وأغضبت المعارضة السورية الخارجية، إضافة إلى أنها خلقت شعوراً بالإحباط في أوساط خصوم سوريا الشرق أوسطيين وبالذات بالنسبة لقطر والسعودية وتركيا.
تقول المعلومات والتسريبات بأن التقرير النهائي لبعثة المراقبين العرب، سوف يؤدي إلى إشعال المزيد من الصراع في أوساط الجامعة العربية، وذلك لجهة التنازع المتوقع حول خيارات توظيف نتائج التقرير، وذلك بما يمكن أن يتضمن الآتي:
• محاولة الدفع باتجاه خيار التدخل العسكري الدولي، ويحتاج حصراً لموافقة مجلس الأمن الدولي
• محاولة الدفع باتجاه خيار التدخل العسكري العربي، ويحتاج حصراً إلى موافقة دمشق
• محاولة الدفع باتجاه خيار إعطاء دمشق المزيد من الفرص لاحتواء الوضع، ويحتاج حصراً لإجماع الأغلبية في الجامعة العربية
• محاولة الدفع باتجاه خيار الضغط على الفرقاء السوريين من أجل الحوار، ويحتاج حصراً لموافقة واشنطن ودول مجلس التعاون الخليجي
هذا، ونلاحظ أن خيار التدخل العسكري الدولي هو غير وارد، بسبب عدم حماس واشنطن لذلك، إضافة إلى أن فرنسا وبريطانيا لن تستطيعا القيام بذلك بدون مشاركة واشنطن، أما بالنسبة لتركيا، فتقول التسريبات بأن أنقرا بدأت خلال هذه الأيام وهي أكثر رغبة لجهة التراجع عن مواقفها المتشددة إزاء دمشق، إضافة إلى تزايد رغبة أنقرا لجهة القيام بمراجعة وإعادة ضبط وتقويم توجهات سياساتها الخارجية إزاء دول جوارها الإقليمي وبالذات سوريا والعراق وإيران، بعد أن تبين لأنقرا أن تعاونها مع إيران والعراق لن يكون ممكناً بمعزل عن تعاونها مع سوريا.
نشر مركز ستاتفور الاستخباري الأمريكي تحليلاً مختصراً، أشار فيه إلى أن مستقبل مصير ملف الحدث الاحتجاجي السوري، سوف يظل غامضاً ومبهماً، وذلك بفعل الأسباب الآتية:
• أسباب داخلية: المعارضة السورية الحالية، ثبت أنها ضعيفة وغير متماسكة وغير موحدة، وبالتالي من الصعب أن تشكل أي تهديد على الوضع القائم في سوريا.
• أسباب خارجية: تمثل واشنطن العامل الحاسم في تشكيل قوام الموقف الخارجي، وحتى الآن ما تزال واشنطن أكثر نفوراً من فكرة التدخل في سوريا.
هذا، وأشار تحليل مركز ستراتفور الاستخباري الأمريكي إلى أن الخيارات المتاحة الآن أمام واشنطن هي متعددة، ولكن ما هو جدير بالاهتمام أن الخيار التدخلي العسكري ليس مطروحاً من بينها، وفي هذا الخصوص أشار التحليل إلى الخيارات المتاحة أمام واشنطن، على النحو الآتي:
• توسيع تفاهمات واشنطن مع طهران، بما يشمل بناء موقف موحد إزاء دمشق.
• توسيع تفاهمات واشنطن مع دمشق، بما يشمل بناء موقف موحد إزاء طهران.
بالنسبة لتفاهمات واشنطن مع طهران لاحظ التحليل أنه يصعب الحصول على موافقة طهران إزاء التخلي عن دمشق، وبالنسبة لتفاهمات واشنطن مع دمشق، فإنه يصعب أيضاً الوصول إلى موافقة دمشق إزاء التخلي عنت طهران، وأضاف التحليل ملمحاً إلى انه إذا كان تفاهم واشنطن مع دمشق وطهران، لن يتيح لامريكا التوصل إلى ما هو مطلوب، فإن تدخل أمريكا عسكرياً في سوريا لن يتيح لواشنطن الحصول على ما هو مطلوب طالما أن الخسائر الباهظة سوف تلحق أضراراً هائلة بالمصالح الأمريكية. خاصة أن إشعال سوريا سوف يشعل كل منطقة شرق المتوسط بشكل يفوق قدرة واشنطن على الاحتواء والسيطرة، وتأسيساً على ذلك سوف يكون خيار تمديد بعثة المراقبين العرب والدفع باتجاه حواتر الفرقاء السوريين هو الأكثر جاذبية خلال الفترة القادمة.
الجمل ـ قسم الدراسات والترجمة
http://www.aljaml.com/node/80280
January 20th, 2012, 1:21 pm
irritated said:
197. Tara
If you look at the geography, you will understand.
Zabadani is near the Bekaa, mainly a stronghold of Shia and Hezbollah and in very tight control by the Lebanese army, while Homs and Hama are close to the northern border cities where alleged Hariri’s sunni militias and salafists are a majority.
Arms Smuggling is mainly reported in the north.
The current Lebanese government is favorable to the regime’s reforms and not to a unknown regime change extremely dangerous for Lebanon. Even Christian and other minority leaders traditionally opposed to Bashar’s Syria are having second thoughts.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/11/25/gun-smuggling-business-is-booming-thanks-to-syrian-uprising/
January 20th, 2012, 1:33 pm
irritated said:
#203 MajedAlkhaldoon
They were “about to be totally crushed as I had predicted” … until they begged for a ceasefire. I thought the FSA were heroic enough to resist until death. My mistake.
The Syria army made a better decision, saving lives and avoiding human rights and the Arab League critics: They neutralized them as prisonners of Zabadani..
January 20th, 2012, 1:42 pm
Juergen said:
Irritated
that must be something new then the Syrian Army is learning here: saving lives. Was it an Freud mistake when you write: avoiding human rights? I totally agree, thats what this regime and its forces are known for.
January 20th, 2012, 1:46 pm
defender said:
Syria in the Eye of the Storm
Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya. (CRG), Montreal.
What Washington is doing is exerting psychological pressure on Iran as a means of distancing it from Syria, so that the United States and its cohorts can go for the kill. Up until the start of January 2012, the Israelis have continuously been preparing to launch an invasion of Syria in a rematch of 2006, while U.S. and E.U. officials have continously tried negotiating with Damascus for a deal to de-link from Iran and the Resistance Bloc. The Syrians, however, have always refused.
Foreign Policy, the magazine of the Council on Foreign Relations, published an article in August 2011 stating what was on the Saudi King’s mind about Syria in context of attacking Iran: “The King knows that other than the collapse of the Islamic Republic [of Iran] itself, nothing would weaken Iran more than losing Syria.” [7] Whether the above statement genuinely came from Abdul Aziz Al-Saud or not, this strategic outlook is representative of the reasons for the targeting of Syria. Obama’s own security advisor has also said the same thing, just a few months after the piece by Foreign Policy was released, in November 2011. National Security Advisor Donilon gave a speech saying that the “end of the Assad regime would constitute Iran’s greatest setback in the region – a strategic blow that will further shift the balance of power in the region against Iran.” [8]
The Kremlin has also made statements that corroborate that Washington wants to de-link Syria from its Iranian ally. One of Russia’s highest security officials has announced that Syria is being punished, because of its strategic alliance with Iran. The Secretary of the National Security Council of the Russian Federation, Nikolai (Nikolay) Platonovich Patrushev, has publicly stated that Syria is the subject of Washington’s pressure due to geo-political interests tied to cutting Syria’s ties with Iran and not due to any humanitarian concerns. [9]
Iran has also given signals that should the Syrians be attacked, it will not hesitate to intervene militarily to come to Syria’s aid. Washington does not want this. The Pentagon would much rather swallow Syria first, before turning its full and undivided attention to Iran. The Pentagon’s objectives are to fight its targets piecemeal. Despite the U.S. military doctrine of fighting simultaneous wars in multiple theatres and all the Pentagon literature about it, the U.S. is not ready yet to wage a conventional regional war against both Iran and Syria or risk an expanded war with Iran’s Russian and Chinese allies yet. The march to war, however, is far from over. For now the U.S. government will have to continue the shadow war against Iran and intensify the media, diplomatic, and economic war.
January 20th, 2012, 3:02 pm
irritated said:
#208 Juergen
The Syrian army is now under scrunity by the AL observers. This is why they are showing restrain.
January 20th, 2012, 3:21 pm
zoo said:
More division ahead in the opposition ranks
“If Syria becomes a religious dictatorship, the next day you will see a crisis and the day after civil war,” Labwani said. “There has been no Islamist democratic country in history, and we do not want to try to be the first.
Syrian opposition leader seeks to counter Islamists
By Khaled Yacoub Oweis | Reuters – 1 hr 42 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-opposition-leader-seeks-counter-islamists-185348253.html
AMMAN (Reuters) – Syria’s religious and ethnic minorities need to work together with liberal Sunni Muslims to counter the influence of Islamists in the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, a prominent Sunni Muslim opposition figure said.
Kamal al-Labwani said Islam was being used to galvanize street protests against Assad and the population had grown more devout, but most Syrians still want Islam to “remain a religion, not a political party.”
“The bloody repression has given the opportunity for clerics to pump Jihadist Islamist values into the street, so we have seen the emphasis on slogans such as ‘God is great’ and martyrdom,” Labwani said.
{…}
January 20th, 2012, 3:38 pm
Tara said:
Irritated
Are you Syrian?
I hope you don’t have the usual pro regime paranoia and start misconstruding the question as a way to ” neutralize ” you. It is a simple inquiry that has no dimension.
Khalid
I am not ignoring you. I am actually interested in carrying a conversation with you about salafists. May be later on today EST.
January 20th, 2012, 3:40 pm
irritated said:
#212 Tara
Anonymity is the rule on any weblog. I respect that.
January 20th, 2012, 3:53 pm
Tara said:
Not a problem irritated.
One wonder if Paranoia is perhaps associated with may be unconscious guilt. We know basic info on all anti regime including the Israelis and the westerners. Paranoia is so evident in hose who support the oppressors.
January 20th, 2012, 4:05 pm
jad said:
After all it seems that Jacquier was killed by the armed militias of fsa ‘djahach’ (mules) according to Le Figaro:
INFO LE FIGARO – Jacquier aurait été victime d’une bavure des insurgés
«Nous savons qu’il y a eu une bavure commise par l’Armée syrienne libre», a confié au Figaro un responsable de la Ligue arabe, confirmant les propos d’un dirigeant d’une organisation des droits de l’homme.
Quelques heures après l’attaque qui a provoqué la mort de Gilles Jacquier à Homs, mercredi 11 janvier, un dirigeant d’une organisation des droits de l’homme de cette ville a confié à un responsable de l’opposition syrienne en France qu’il s’agissait «d’une grosse ânerie» commise par les adversaires de Bachar el-Assad. «Au téléphone, mon interlocuteur, que je connais depuis de longues années, m’a dit en arabe que c’était une “djahachaneh”, c’est-à-dire une grosse bourde de la part des opposants», nous a déclaré ce haut dirigeant de l’opposition. Pour ce dernier, son interlocuteur savait qui était derrière l’obus de mortier qui a tué sur le coup le journaliste de France 2, en visite ce jour-là à Homs, l’épicentre de la révolution contre le pouvoir d’Assad. «Peu après l’attaque, on a su assez rapidement, dans certains milieux de Homs, qui avait tiré», ajouta la source. Immédiatement après, opposants et pouvoir syrien s’accusèrent mutuellement d’être responsables de la mort de Gilles Jacquier.
Ce responsable de l’opposition se confia le lendemain de l’attaque. Mais il fallait disposer d’autres éléments avant que Le Figaro n’en fasse état. Le même jour, jeudi 12 janvier, notre source transmit le contenu de sa conversation avec son correspondant de Homs à Nabil al-Arabi, le secrétaire général de la Ligue arabe. Dans le cadre d’un plan de sortie de crise, l’organisation panarabe disposait d’observateurs sur place à Homs. «Nous les avons sollicités afin que toute la vérité soit faite sur cette affaire», confiait ce mercredi un diplomate du Quai d’Orsay.
Les rebelles « poussés à la faute »
Sur le terrain, les recherches des observateurs arabes semblent avoir progressé assez rapidement. Vendredi, un responsable de la Ligue arabe déclarait au Figaro que «nous savons désormais qu’il y a eu une bavure commise par l’Armée syrienne libre (qui a coûté la vie Gilles Jacquier, NDLR). L’ASL a été poussée à la faute par les miliciens pro-Assad, qui défiaient ses hommes depuis plusieurs jours. Les déserteurs ont voulu leur donner une leçon et leur faire peur. Nous savons que les tirs sont venus de Bab Sbah», un bastion de l’opposition, qui fait face à celui de Nouzha, peuplé d’alaouites pro-Bachar, où a été tué Jacquier.
Pour des raisons de sécurité, le responsable de l’organisation des droits de l’Homme à Homs et son correspondant de l’opposition en France ont demandé à garder l’anonymat. Mais ce dernier est prêt à témoigner devant une commission d’enquête. «J’attends qu’un juge indépendant soit nommé, dit-il. Même si elle est en notre défaveur, la vérité doit éclater.» Il confie avoir reçu, ces derniers jours, d’autres appels téléphoniques de Homs, confirmant la thèse de la bavure par l’Armée syrienne libre. Ces révélations contredisent l’hypothèse d’une manipulation par le pouvoir syrien, alimentée par les témoignages de plusieurs journalistes présents aux côtés de Gilles Jacquier au moment de l’attaque. Ceux-ci faisaient état «d’éléments troublants», comme le brusque départ des militaires en charge de leur surveillance, au moment du premier tir d’obus. Pour eux, le régime aurait voulu discréditer ses opposants en montrant au monde que les journalistes étaient visés par des «gangs armés».
Gilles Jacquier, 43 ans, se trouvait à Homs en compagnie de plusieurs journalistes, suisses, belges et libanais. Leur séjour avait été organisé par Sœur Marie-Agnès, une religieuse libanaise installée près de Homs. Plusieurs Syriens ont également trouvé la mort ce jour-là dans les quartiers de Nouzha et d’Akrima, touchés par plusieurs projectiles en l’espace d’une demi-heure, peu après 15 heures. «Pour moi, ces tirs venaient du quartier de Bab Sbah», assurait également jeudi soir sur France 2 le photographe libanais Joseph Eid, de l’AFP, qui se trouvait au sein du groupe de journalistes.
Selon des membres de l’opposition, les déserteurs de l’Armée syrienne libre possèdent des obus de mortier. «Ce type d’armes est trop imprécis pour une mission de liquidation ciblée», nous ont affirmé plusieurs généraux français.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2012/01/20/01003-20120120ARTFIG00667-jacquier-aurait-ete-victime-d-une-bavure-des-insurges.php
January 20th, 2012, 4:22 pm
irritated said:
#214 Tara
“Paranoia is so evident in hose who support the oppressors.”
I have not seen any study about that specific assertion. I know it’s a disease that can attack anyone in certain circumstances.
January 20th, 2012, 4:23 pm
jad said:
Syria’s Rebels Claim Control of City
“The Free Syrian Army rebel force claims to have gained control of the southwestern Syrian city of Zabadani. The city’s terrain has some advantages for a defending force, but also significant limitations in terms of a base of operations for broader efforts against the regime. More important, while these claims would represent a significant development, there is no indication that the rebels forcefully ejected the Syrian regime from the town, much less can deny them access should they return in force.
Analysis
After five days of alleged fighting in the Syrian city of Zabadani, the Syrian army and rebel forces reportedly reached a cease-fire, and the Syrian army pulled back Jan. 18. If true, Zabadani would be the first city to fall under rebel control (the Free Syrian Army, or FSA, also allegedly controls part of Ain al-Bayda). A Syrian opposition leader said food and basic supplies had begun trickling back into the city, but the situation remains tense; the opposition claims that Syrian forces withdrew to military garrisons only about 8 kilometers (5 miles) away. It is far from clear that the military was compelled to withdraw by force, much less that rebel forces within the city have the tools and wherewithal to hold it.
In December, Stratfor discussed the similarities and differences between the situations in Syria and Libya. One key contrast has been the Syrian opposition’s lack of a secure base of operations. The eastern city of Benghazi served as a haven for Libyan rebels for most of the war. Benghazi was geographically distant and buffered from the core of the regime’s power — specifically from loyalist military formations. In Syria, loyalist military formations are close at hand. While the Syrian rebels’ purported control of Zabadani is a new development with some propaganda value, the rebels — even if they can hold the territory and resist army attempts to take and clear the town — remain hemmed in by local geography. The Syrian rebels’ underlying problem remains the same, and there is no indication of a meaningful change in their military capability.
Geography of Zabadani
Zabadani is located in southwest Syria’s Rif Dimashq governorate, near the border with Lebanon. It lies in the middle of a narrow valley that runs north-to-south. To the east and west are mountains nearly 2,000 meters (about 6,000 feet) high, meaning the north-south axis harbors the only easily accessible routes to and from Zabadani. Lebanon is reached by a 12-kilometer highway drive to the north, or by crossing 7 kilometers to the west, over a 900-meter-tall ridge and generally rugged terrain.
This terrain does provide certain benefits for the Syrian rebel force, purportedly unified under the aegis of the FSA. For instance, the avenues of approach are limited. An assault from the north would require movement over mountains, which is time-consuming and complicates the movement of armor. A large-scale attack from the north is therefore unlikely — unless Lebanon is involved. (However, it would be fairly simple to maneuver a smaller, lighter unit — such as the Syrian 14th Special Forces Division, which trains in air assault tactics — into the northern valley, where it could prevent rebels from retreating up the valley toward the Lebanese border.)
A heavier offensive on Zabadani would thus likely come from the southern route. The approach is readily identifiable and funnels forces — conditions that can benefit a more lightly equipped defensive force. The urban environment — which also tends to favor the defender — would also play to rebel forces’ advantage.
In addition, the geography would enable the FSA to break contact and flee the city if necessary. Even if the Syrian army cut off the northern route, the rebels could move directly west into the mountains and toward Lebanon. The difficult terrain to the west would benefit the rebels because they travel much lighter than the army due to their lack of heavy weaponry or armor — and by virtue of being locals, they will know the terrain better. Once they have escaped the mountains, the rebels could disperse to safer areas, in Lebanon or elsewhere.
The Rebels’ Disadvantages
But the geography around Zabadani, while offering a defensive force a number of benefits, also has drawbacks. For example, Damascus sits about 30 kilometers by highway to the southeast, while the Golan Heights are only a 50-kilometer drive south. The bulk of Syria’s army and air force is located in these areas, placing them well within striking distance of Zabadani.
Additionally, the city’s terrain restricts logistical support, facilitating any attempt to cordon off and isolate the city. If fighting resumes, the Syrian army will be able to close off the northern and southern routes and put enough pressure on the area to make sustainable resupply of FSA forces impossible — and the FSA has severely limited logistical capability to begin with.
The Syrian army possesses the capability to bring substantial armor, infantry, artillery and airpower to bear on Zabadani; there is little indication that the FSA has the tools or capabilities to meaningfully resist any sort of concerted assault. The rebels’ limited access to firepower is their biggest disadvantage in trying to hold territory for an extended period of time. Rebels in Zabadani claim to possess 60 anti-tank guided missiles, various types of rocket-propelled grenades and small arms. But even if they have these weapons, their ability to use them effectively is questionable.
The rebels still lack the firepower or logistical base to repel a concerted push by the Syrian army. Meanwhile, there is every indication that loyalist forces have acted in a deliberate and careful manner. The West cited the use of Libya’s air force as a reason to intervene in Libya. Syria’s air force has for the most part remained on the ground (in part due to concerns about Sunni pilots’ loyalties), and Syrian President Bashar al Assad has stayed largely away from the most devastating repressive tactics — particularly the heavy shelling of dissenting towns — so visibly employed by former Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi. With the mandate of Arab League monitors expiring on Jan. 19 (though it will likely be extended by at least a month), al Assad is walking a very thin line. Restraint on his part should not be confused with progress on the rebels’ side, particularly since loyalist forces are being deployed in a deliberate manner intended to ensure the longer-term survival of the regime.
The Free Syrian Army rebel force claims to have gained control of the southwestern Syrian city of Zabadani. The city’s terrain has some advantages for a defending force, but also significant limitations in terms of a base of operations for broader efforts against the regime. More important, while these claims would represent a significant development, there is no indication that the rebels forcefully ejected the Syrian regime from the town, much less can deny them access should they return in force.
http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/syrias-rebels-claim-control-city
January 20th, 2012, 4:28 pm
defender said:
I don’t want another war and am SICK of them since I was in the Military during the “Vietnam Conflict”. When will it all STOP?? LET THE PEOPLE VOTE…….WE DON’T WANT ANOTHER PHONEY WAR!!! The “military complex” and the Federal Reserve are behind this crap…..it’s a MONEY MAKING GAME TO THEM…….NOTHING MORE, and WE ARE PAYING THE PRICE IN MONEY AND LIVES!!!
RON PAUL 2012!!!
January 20th, 2012, 5:05 pm
Juergen said:
Dictators gym
http://www.youtube.com/user/captain5obza?feature=watch#p/search/0/ZILzcXRgMkk
January 20th, 2012, 5:06 pm
irritated said:
#215 Jad
I took the liberty to translate the french article for people like Juergen and others to see what is the truth about the death of Gilles Jacquier.
Jacquier was the victim of a blunder by the insurgents
By Georges Malbrunot ( Le Figaro)
posted on 20/01/2012 at 18:54
“We know that there was a blunder committed by the Syrian army free,” told an official of the Arab League to the Figaro, confirming the words of a leader of an organization of human rights.
Hours after the attack that killed Gilles Jacquier in Homs, Wednesday, January 11, an officer of an organization of human rights of the city told a responsible in the Syrian opposition in France that it was “a big stupidity” committed by opponents of Bashar al-Assad. “On the phone, the speaker that I know for many years, told me in Arabic that it was a” djahachaneh “, that is to say a big blunder on the part of opponents,” told us this top opposition leader. For the latter, the speaker knew who was behind the mortar shell that killed instantly the journalist of France 2, who was visiting that day in Homs, the epicenter of the revolution against the power of Assad. “Shortly after the attack, we knew pretty quickly in some quarters of Homs, who fired,” added the source. Immediately after, opponents and the Syria government accused each other of being responsible for the death of Gilles Jacquier.
The opposition leader confided the next day after the attack. But we had to have other elements before Le Figaro exposes it. The same day, Thursday, January 12, our source transmitted the contents of his conversation with the correspondent of Homs to Nabil al-Arabi, the Secretary General of the Arab League. As part of a plan to end the crisis, the pan-Arab organization had observers on the ground in Homs. “We have sought them so that the whole truth about this matter come out ,” one diplomat told us this Wednesday at the Quai d’Orsay.
The rebels “pushed to make a mistake ”
On the ground, the investigations of the Arab observers seem to have progressed quite quickly. Friday, an official of the Arab League told the BBC that “we now know that there was a blunder committed by the Syrian army free (which killed Gilles Jacquier, Ed). The FSA has been pushed to make a mistake by the pro-Assad militias, who have be defying its men for several days. The deserters wanted to give them a lesson and scare them. We know that the shots came from Bab Sbah “a bastion of the opposition, which faces Nouzha, populated by Alawites pro-Bashar, where Jacquier was killed..
For security reasons, the head of the organization of human rights in Homs and its corresponding opposition in France asked to remain anonymous. But he ready to testify before a commission of inquiry. “I am waiting for an independent judge to be appointed, he said. Even if it is against us, the truth must be. ” He says to have received in recent days, some phone calls from Homs, confirming the thesis of the blunder by the Free Syrian Army. These revelations contradict the hypothesis of a manipulation by the Syrian government, fueled by the testimony of several journalists alongside Gilles Jacquier at the time of the attack. They were stating the existence of “disturbing elements” as the abrupt departure of the military in charge of supervision at the time of the first shelling. For them, the regime wanted to discredit his opponents by showing the world that journalists were targeted by “armed gangs”.
Gilles Jacquier, 43, was in Homs with several journalists, Swiss, Belgian and Lebanese. Their stay was organized by Sister Mary Agnes, a Lebanese nun installed near Homs. Many Syrians also died that day in the neighborhoods of Nouzha and Akrimi, hit by several bullets in the space of half an hour, shortly after 15 hours. “For me, these shots were from Bab Sbah” also ensured Thursday night on France 2 Lebanese photographer Joseph Eid, AFP, who was in the group of journalists.
According to members of the opposition, the Free Syrian army deserters have mortars. “This type of weapon is too imprecise for a mission targeting a liquidation”, told us several French generals.
January 20th, 2012, 5:24 pm
Afram said:
Stop Islamization of Nations (SION) Calls on UN to Protect Christians of Syria
NEW YORK, Jan. 20, 2012 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ – A prominent international human rights organization is calling upon the United Nations and the international human rights community to act quickly and decisively to save the Christians of Syria, who are being increasingly threatened and victimized by Islamic supremacists.
(Logo – http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20120117/DC36672LOGO)
Stop Islamization of Nations (SION) notes with sorrow the one hundred dead in Syria in the recent and ongoing series of kidnappings and murders of Christians. SION President Pamela Geller said in a statement: “We deplore the manifest lack of respect for human life and the dignity of the human person. We call upon the United Nations Security Council and UN Commission on Human Rights to schedule an immediate meeting to discuss how to protect the Christians of Syria.”
Geller added: “We call upon Muslim groups in the U.S. and the Middle East to condemn these killings in word and deed, instituting programs in mosques and Islamic schools to teach Muslims that the lives of non-Muslims must be respected as equal in dignity and value to those of Muslims. We call upon the centers of Islamic authority and education to repudiate the specifications in Islamic law that set the value of a non-Muslim’s life as less than that of a Muslim, and call upon the international human rights community to focus on those inherently discriminatory laws as a human rights abuse.”
SION is an international umbrella organization dedicated to defending human rights, religious liberty, freedom of conscience and the freedom of speech against Islamic supremacist intimidation and attempts to bring elements of Sharia to the West.
The confirmed list of Board of Advisors for SION currently includes Dr. Ali Sina, the renowned ex-Muslim author and founder of FaithFreedom.org; Dr. Wafa Sultan, the ex-Muslim human rights activist and author; the German pro-freedom activist Stefan Herre of Politically Incorrect; the Israeli author Dr. Mordechai Kedar; the Hindu human rights activist Babu Suseelan; and Anders Gravers of Stop Islamisation of Europe (SIOE). More prominent pro-freedom activists will be added to the Board shortly.
A worldwide summit of SION freedom activists is currently being organized; location, date and other details will be announced in the coming weeks.
SION establishes a common American/European coalition of free people determined to stand for freedom and oppose the advance of Islamic law, Sharia. Islamic law is not simply a religious system, but a political system that encompasses every aspect of life; is authoritarian, discriminatory, and repressive; and contradicts Western laws and principles in numerous particulars. SION respects Muslims as fellow human beings and rejects Islamization as a comprehensive political, religious, cultural and social system of behavior and ideology.
SION stands for:
■The freedom of speech – as opposed to Islamic prohibitions of “blasphemy” and “slander,” which are used effectively to quash honest discussion of jihad and Islamic supremacism;
■The freedom of conscience – as opposed to the Islamic death penalty for apostasy;
■The equality of rights of all people before the law – as opposed to Sharia’s institutionalized discrimination against women and non-Muslims.
A foremost objective of SION is to establish a network of free nations that work to free the oppressed and to call worldwide attention to the persecution, slaughter and subjugation of non-Muslims and free women enslaved by the Sharia. SION will act only through democratic and non-violent means, and categorically rejects all acts of violence and vigilantism. It aims to preserve the fundamental freedoms and rights articulated in the Constitutions of the Western democracies, the U.S. Bill of Rights, and the United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
SION will also work to winning back the culture, with a particular focus on the academic world, as the Islamic teaching of history is based on faith and Sharia, not on the Western objective criteria of truth. In the West, history must be taught according to the truth, not according to the dictates of ideology.
SION also offers diversity and sensitivity training to corporations and government agencies at the local, state and national levels. This diversity training is designed to help these entities understand the jihad threat in all its different manifestations, including Islamic supremacist cultural initiatives to assert Islamic law and practice in the American workplace. It helps them protect their business practices in the face of demands for special accommodation for Muslim employees.
To schedule a session, please write to media@sionations.org.
Join the SION Facebook group here.https://www.facebook.com/pages/SION-Stop-Islamization-of-Nations/150974048350848?sk=wall
For more information, contact Pamela Geller at media@sionations.org.
SOURCE Stop Islamization of Nations
January 20th, 2012, 5:36 pm
jad said:
Mohammad Al Abdallah linked a clip of a tortured Syrian man named Hosam Al Nabilsi from Banyas, the clip is so graphic and the treatment of this Syria man is beyond barbaric.
What kind of sick criminal subhuman treat anybody this way then take a clip for the crime.
I second Mohammad call to contact the AL observers and even the Syrian government to search for this man and save him from wherever and whoever is torturing him like that and to expose whoever did/doing this crimes against all of us.
This man is in urgent need for an immediate medical care, he is a father of many kids and nothing justify the pain and torture he is dealing with, NOTHING AT ALL.
It is disgusting, disturbing and alarming that Syrians are treated this way by every side of this struggle, it’s criminal.
I apologize for not linking the clip, it’s horrific but the title is:
طرطوس مسرب مافيات الاسد تهين المعتقلين وتعذبهم المعتقل حسام احمد نابلسي
Mohammad Al Abdallah
أطالب المجلس الوطني أن يرسل كتاباً رسمياً لبعثة المراقبين العرب لزيارة المعتقل حسام النابلسي على الفور… الموافق الرجاء إعادة النشر!
Mohammad Al Abdallah
المواطن السوري حسام أحمد النابلسي من بانياس في فروع أمن بشار الأسد!!
January 20th, 2012, 5:41 pm
aldendeshe said:
@JAD, do they pay you enough for this outstanding work you doing on SC? You are nice educated person whith great cut and paste skills that is second to known, well maybe secod to ANN. FLIP MAN, FLIP, ok at the safe right time do it please.
January 20th, 2012, 5:59 pm
jad said:
Mou3taz,
I know very well that you wrote your comment with the best possible intention, thank you.
I want you to be sure that nobody is paying me anything, and I only share what I think is important and may help to bring some truth to this whole vague tragedy we live in and I do the cut&paste when there is no real discussion to be involved with or interest me.
January 20th, 2012, 6:26 pm
Ghufran said:
http://m.cnn.com/primary/wk_article?articleId=urn:newsml:CNN.com:20120120:syria-unrest:1&branding=&category=cnnd_world_meast&pagesize=10
US embassy in Syria
January 20th, 2012, 6:27 pm
zoo said:
Zabadani: The town President Assad does not control
Jeremy Bowen
Video
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16663264
January 20th, 2012, 6:39 pm
irritated said:
Jad
Thank you and others for your occasional selected cut and paste from various sources. They are eye openers and stimulate discussions otherwise I think it would be very repetitive and uninteresting.
January 20th, 2012, 6:56 pm
Ghufran said:
عمان ـ رويترز: قال معارض بارز إنه ينبغي للأقليات الدينية والعرقية في سورية أن تعمل مع الليبراليين السنة لمواجهة نفوذ الإسلاميين في الانتفاضة ضد الرئيس بشار الأسد.
وقال كمال اللبواني إن الاسلام يستخدم لتحفيز احتجاجات الشوارع ضد الأسد وإن ‘معظم الشعب السوري متدين ولكنه يعتقد أن الاسلام هو دين وليس حزب’.
وأضاف ‘مواجهة الثورة بالقمع الدموي جلبت إلى الشارع قيما إسلامية جهادية مثل التكبير والشهادة وهي لا تقلقني.. انا عندي تاريخي وديني ليس حتى أخبئه ولكن حتى استعمله وقت الشدائد إذا لم ألجأ وقت الشدائد إلى ربي وقلت الله إلى من ألجأ’.
وقال إنه ينبغي أن تعمل الأقليات المسيحية والعلوية والاسماعيلية والكردية التي تشكل نحو 30 في المئة من السكان مع السنة الذين يعارضون خلط الدين بالسياسة.
Comment: I like what I read,I will celebrate if this guy does not change his skin.
January 20th, 2012, 7:03 pm
aldendeshe said:
@JAD
It is a tragedy for Syrians but not for Syria, and I am not questioning your posts, but what can we do now, is turn it around from being a PLANNED TRAGEDY into a better future for Syria. Bashar had 11 years to take his time and 11 months under duress and Syria is not one step closer to a State, still run like a farm house, slaughter houses on all four corners.
January 20th, 2012, 7:05 pm
zoo said:
Libyan Islamists rally to demand sharia-based law
By Mahmoud Habboush | Reuters – 52 mins ago
TRIPOLI (Reuters) – Hundreds of Libyan Islamists rallied on Friday to demand that Muslim sharia law inspire legislation in what organizers called a response to the emergence of secular political parties after the fall of Muammar Gaddafi’s dictatorship last year.
Assembled by Islamist political and religious groups, mostly young and bearded men holding up copies of the Koran demonstrated in squares in the capital Tripoli, the eastern city of Benghazi and in Sabha in the southern desert.
{..}
In Tripoli’s Algeria Square, Islamists burned copies of the “Green Book,” Gaddafi’s eccentric handbook on politics, economics and everyday life, to underline that the Koran should be the country’s main source of legislation.
http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-islamists-rally-demand-sharia-based-law-231100653.html
January 20th, 2012, 7:05 pm
Juergen said:
Irritated
thanks for the transaltion, my french is ok enough to got the point though.
Well i think at the end of the day its a matter of belief.
Rejoice ya friends of Bashar Lizzi Phelan is presenting an other masterpiece of journalism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvPATpVfdYU
I guess the end is near if she is around in the country. Wonder what she will say when Damascus is freed…
Here is the report of Jeremy Bowen of Daraa
January 20th, 2012, 7:07 pm
irritated said:
Ghufran #228
Read Zoo’s #211
It is the same subject with much more details.
January 20th, 2012, 7:09 pm
Juergen said:
Its funny how much effort the regime had made to get the embassy in place and functioning. The wikileaks papers indicate that Damascus was very much interested in very good relations with the USA. Wonder if those relations were just good on the security level.
January 20th, 2012, 7:11 pm
Ghufran said:
خلود الزغير
لم يكن غريباً أبداً افتقاد النظام لثقافة الوعي بالآخر وحواره، وغباء آلته الإعلامية، فهذا أمر معروف من أربعين سنة، ولأجله قامت الثورة. لكن الغريب هو افتقاد (بعض) تيارات المعارضة لهذه الثقافة وممارستها الإقصاء والتخوين والاستفراد على رفاقها في المعارضة أيضاً. لذلك كان من نتائج افتقادهم هذه الثقافة عجزهم عن استقطاب الشارع الوسطي المتردد في سورية قبل أن يفكروا أصلاً بالشارع المؤيد.
فكما أن إعلام النظام ومخابراته وأجهزته الأمنية يتصرفون بقناعة ساذجة أن كل السوريين يحبون رئيسهم بشار وعلى استعداد لافتدائه بالروح والدم ويقعون بمفاجأة كلما سمعوا منتقداً أو معارضاً لسيّدهم فيخونونه ويتوعّدونه. للأسف (البعض) في المعارضة اتبع ذات الثقـــافة وذات الخطاب تجاه الآخر ‘السوري’، وسار بالثورة اعتماداً على هذا المنطق. موجهاً خطابه للشعب السوري معتبراً أن كل السوريين مع الثورة وضد بشار الأسد، غير مكترث بالمؤيدين ‘الخونة’ ومتجاهلاً الفئة ‘الصامتة والمترددة’ دون إعمال التفكير والجهد بكيفية استقطابها.
هنا يطرح سؤال لهؤلاء إذا كنتم تقومون بثورة لأجل سورية جديدة دولة مدنية تعددية ديمقراطية تكون بديلاً لدولة الاستبداد، إذاً ستكونون جزءاً من حكومة لكل السوريين، أي الثائرون والمؤيدون والصامتون. هذا يعني أنه يتوجب عليكم تقديم خطاب يحاكي آمال وطموحات الجميع ويلفت نظرهم ككل وليس كجزء. لا أودّ أن يفهم من كلامي أبداً تقديم خطاب وسطي مُراوغ كما فعلت بعض هيئات المعارضة، لكن المقصود طرح خطاب كاريزمي يليق بتضحيات الشعب الثائر أولاً، يفضح فساد وإجرام النظام واستغلاله واستبداده لكن بدون لغة سوقيّة واتهامات غير موثّقة وتخوين دون دلائل أو لغة استفزازية طائفية، بل بلغة سياسية بنائية تحاكي المواطن بدل ابن الطائفة وتقدم البديل لسورية المستقبل بوضوح. سورية الدولة التي تغري كل سوري كي ينزل للشارع ويضحي لأجل مستقبل أولاده. لكن بنفس الوقت تطرح خطاباً ‘ممكناً’ دون مبالغات في الوعود والمواعيد بل بواقعية وصدق وأمانة.
January 20th, 2012, 7:12 pm
Ghufran said:
لندن – نقلت صحيفة فايننشال تايمز البريطانية الجمعة عن حاكم مصرف سوريا المركزي أديب مياله قوله ان سوريا تخطط لتعويم موجه لسعر صرف عملتها الاسبوع القادم.
وتأتي هذه الخطوة التي تعني فعليا السماح بانخفاض قيمة الليرة السورية وسط أزمة سياسية تعصف بالبلاد منذ عشرة اشهر ومع اتخاذ الحكومة اجراءت صعبة لدعم اقتصاد يتضرر من عقوبات للاتحاد الاوروبي تشمل تجارة النفط.
وقالت الفايننشيال تايمز ان خطة البنك المركزي السوري -التي اصدرها مكتب رئيس الوزراء- يبدو انها تنطلق من أن السماح للبنوك الخاصة ببيع العملات الاجنبية بالسعر الذي تختاره سيزيد السيولة في النظام المالي رغم انها ستسمح بخفض فعلي لقيمة العملة السورية.
واضافت الصحيفة ان البنك المركزي سيواصل تمويل استيراد “المواد الاساسية” بسعر الصرف الرسمي وان المعروض من العملة الاجنبية للاستخدام الشخصي سيظل يخضع لقيود مشددة.
وقال صيارفة يوم الخميس ان الاضطرابات في سوريا دفعت سعر صرف العملة المحلية للهبوط الى مستوى قياسي منخفض بلغ 70 ليرة مقابل الدولار الامريكي في السوق السوداء. “رويترز”.
January 20th, 2012, 7:18 pm
irritated said:
Juergen #231
When proofs are damning, guilt is
” a matter of belief.” Brilliant!
I think you just don’t have enough honesty to admit like some of the genuine opposition that it was a blunder and the guilt is on the rebels.
Go on with your beliefs, it it protects your ego from doubts.
And please always jump to a diversion, a very obvious technique you have often used when you are cornered in admitting you were wrong.
January 20th, 2012, 7:21 pm
jad said:
Thank you Irritated 🙂
January 20th, 2012, 7:32 pm
Ghufran said:
إن النشاط السياسي والعسكري لمؤيدي القذافي يتعاظم بشكل علني وذلك بسبب تحذير قائد المجلس الإنتقالي مصطفى عبد الجليل أبناء القذافي من تشديد السيطرة. ونظرا إلى أسر سيف الإسلام حاليا، فإن عائشة القذافي هي الزعيم الحالي تقريبا ذ لك أنها تتمتع بالذكاء والطاقة والالتزام القوي باستبدال “ثوار الناتو”، وتبرئة والدها، والمحافظة على ميراثه الصحيح، وتنظيم حركة إصلاحية بالتوازي مع بعض الخطوط التي كانت هي وبعض أفراد عائلتها والموالين لهم يعملون عليها، بموافقة والدها على حد تعبيرها.
وكل ليلة تتزايد النقوش المؤيدة للقذافي على جدران الطرقات والأبنية وحول الميدان الأخضر “ميدان الشهداء”. ويؤكد النشطاء المتزايدون يوميا على أن المجلس الإنتقالي لم يتعرّض لهم مؤخرا وهم يشعرون بالحرية في التعبير عن رأيهم وفي التنظيم. والرأي يعود لكل فرد على حدة في تقدير مدى طول هذه الحال قبل اتخاذ إجراءات صارمة وبدء القتال.
ومن الصعب تقدير المزيج بين المناهضين للمجلس الإنتقالي والمؤيدين للقذافي، فضلا عن الاتجاه الذي تسير نحوه الأحداث الغامضة في ليبيا بشكل متزايد.
ولكن، ومع رحيل معمر القذافي، الهدف الأول لقوات (الناتو) منذ 19 آذار/ مارس التي سيطرت على حملة قرار مجلس الأمن في الأمم المتحدة ضد ليبيا رقم 1973، فإن (الناتو) قد استنتج بشكل صحيح أنه ومن دون زعامة القذافي الساحرة في ليبيا والمنطقة، فإن أي “ثورة خضراء مضادة” ستكون غاية في الصعوبة. وهذا ما نشهده اليوم.
وفي حين يتململ الليبيون من الثورة على المجلس الإنتقالي لأسباب عدة، فإن حادثة تبوّل قوات (الناتو) على أجساد الأفغانيين تحتل الصحف والمناقشات في هذا البلد المسلم والمحافظ. ولقد ضيع (الناتو) الكثير من محاولات تفعيل علاقاته العامة على حد زعمه بعد انتهاء عمليات القصف في ليلة عيد جميع القديسين. ويشتبه المرء في أن ذلك ناتج عن تراكم القضايا الكثيرة المكتشفة مؤخرا حول قصف (الناتو) المدنيين في ليبيا فضلا عن تقارير الجنود الأبرياء الذين لا يشكلون تهديدا في باكستان والعراق وأفغانستان. وتتزايد مخاوف الشعب الليبي بسبب القضايا الكثيرة التي تظهر يوما بعد يوم حول الأعداد المرتفعة للأطفال الذين قتلهم (الناتو).
هذا وبالإضافة إلى السخط من تبوّل قوات (الناتو)، أصبح مسؤولو (الناتو) محط سخرية لاستنكارهم أن مهمات القصف في ليبيا التي فاق عددها 11000 عملية قصف قد أدت إلى مقتل المدنيين، ولزعمهم أن قوات (الناتو) تصرفت بحسب المعايير الأخلاقية والعسكرية الأسمى، وقد عرضوا أنفسهم للخطر في بعض الأحيان لتجنّب إيقاع ضحايا مدنيين. وتذكر هذه الإدعاءات البعض بحملة العلاقات العامة المثيرة للضحك التي تتعهد بها الحكومة الإسرائيلية بشكل منتظم.
أما الإشارات من ليبيا فتدل على أن هذا البلد يبقى متقلّب الأحوال، وأنه يتعارض ومزاعم (الناتو) حول إنشائه “ليبيا ديمقراطية جديدة” وأن الفصل الجديد المتوقع بدأ التصريح بأن نهاية المجلس الإنتقالي باتت وشيكة أي قبل انتخابات حزيران/ يونيو المقررة لاستبدال المجلس بحكومة أخرى.
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January 20th, 2012, 7:36 pm
Tara said:
From the article posted in #211
“”The Alawite community still has to take a clear position against the killings by the regime,” he said, pointing to Syria’s 300,000 Shi’ite minority whom he said have distanced themselves from Assad and continue to co-exist with Sunnis, even though Shi’ite Iran is Assad’s biggest supporter.”
Is that true? How did the mainstream Syrian Shiite distanced themselves from Assad. Was this I public statement. We did hear it from Mundas before. This is pretty admirable. Syrian Christians’ position on the other side was very very disappointing.
January 20th, 2012, 7:39 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
The Barada river start in Zabadani plain, an area south of the city of Zabadani all the way to Tekyeh, which is very narrow area hardly enough for four cars to go thru,part of it is the space for the river,the tanks will have hard time moving in muddy area, flooding the plain with blocking the river can easily be done all what it takes is few bombs and the army of assad can be isolated where his tanks can not move
January 20th, 2012, 8:14 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0Ak2bkcx8LxKTdGxQVjNWYk1oTTBBSktXRy0tM2s4VWc&output=html
January 20th, 2012, 8:25 pm
jad said:
الجامعة العربية ترفع عدد المراقبين في ظل ضغوط لإحالة ملف سوريا على مجلس الأمن
شهدت سوريا أمس تظاهرات موالية ومعارضة في عدة مناطق. وفيما يرفع أنصار الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد شعار «دعم برنامج الإصلاح الشامل ورفض التدخل الخارجي»، اختار المعارضون تسمية «جمعة معتقلي الثورة»، بينما تصاعدت الضغوط على الجامعة العربية لإحالة الملف على مجلس الأمن، مع تسليم المراقبين العرب «تقريراً حاسماً» عن الشهر الأول من مهمتهم في سوريا.
وفيما تركزت التظاهرات الموالية في دمشق ودير الزور، انطلقت عدة تظاهرات معارضة في حمص وإدلب وريفها وبعض القرى في حلب وريف دمشق، وعدة قرى في ريف درعا. كذلك تظاهر سوريون يعيشون في الأردن لإبداء دعمهم للمحتجين في سوريا، وقدّر عدد المتظاهرين في كافة أرجاء سوريا بنحو 34 ألف شخص، فيما انفجرت عبوات ناسفة في عدة محافظات، أدت إحداها إلى إصابة شرطي.
وقال مصدر رسمي سوري لـ«يونايتد برس إنترناشونال»، إنه لم يسقط سوى جريح واحد في أنحاء سوريا، وهو شرطي أصيب بانفجار عبوة ناسفة في حي صلاح الدين بحلب. وأضاف المصدر أن عبوات ناسفة انفجرت في حي العليبيات بمدينة حماه نجمت عنها أضرار مادية فقط، وانفجرت أيضاً عبوة أخرى في حي الجبيلة في دير الزور من دون وقوع إصابات أو أضرار. وتابع قائلاً إن وجوداً كثيفاً للجماعات المسلحة ظهر في باب السباع بحمص قرب أحد المستوصفات، فيما أقدم مسلحون على إطلاق قذيفة (أر بي جي) على حاجز لقوات حفظ النظام، لم تؤدِّ إلى وقوع إصابات.
من جهة أخرى، قالت «لجان التنسيق المحلية» إن عدد القتلى بلغ أمس 13 قتيلاً على أيدي قوات الأمن السورية، فيما قال نشطاء إن ستة أشخاص على الأقل قُتلوا في سوريا وسلمت جثث ستة آخرين لأسرهم. وفي دير الزور، أفادت لجان التنسيق المحلية في بيان بأن قوات الأمن «أطلقت النار والغاز المسيل للدموع» على متظاهرين و«أطلقت نيراناً كثيفة أمام مسجد عثمان لفضّ اعتصام نفّذه الأهالي لإعادة فتح المسجد بعد أن أغلقته قوات الأمن». وأشارت اللجان إلى «انتشار أمني مع مرافقة من مصفحات في الشوارع الأساسية وقرب المساجد الرئيسية في داريا»، وإلى «انتشار قناصة حول جامع عبد الرحمن بن عوف في حماة، وانتشار أمني في الشوارع المحيطة».
ودعا «المجلس الوطني السوري» إلى المشاركة في فاعليات «يوم الغضب العالمي لنصرة الشعب السوري» المقررة أن تنطلق اليوم في عدة مدن عربية وعالمية.
وفي اتصال هاتفي أجرته معه وكالة الأنباء الألمانية (د.ب.أ)، أكد رئيس «هيئة التنسيق الوطنية» هيثم مناع أنه يرفض أن يكون إرسال قوات عربية لسوريا مقدمة أو محاولة توطئة للتدخل العسكري الغربي. وتابع من القاهرة يقول: «نطالب بقوات عربية خفيفة لا تتعدى عشرة آلاف جندي لتسهيل مهمة عمل المراقبين العرب على الأرض ليتمكنوا من الانتشار في كل موقع في سوريا وليسمح للجميع بلقائهم والتحدث معهم بحرية. وستقوم تلك القوات بحماية المدنيين وفك الارتباط بين الأطراف المتنازعة، وخاصة في المناطق الساخنة». ووصف مقترحات بعض أطياف المعارضة السورية باستقدام الأطلسي أو أي تدخل عسكري بالاقتراحات اليائسة والمسعورة، وقال: «هؤلاء يريدون الوصول إلى السلطة، ولو على دبابة أميركية أو تركية». وتساءل: «هل سنقبل باحتلال وإقامة قواعد عسكرية أم كسر هيبة للأبد أم نبيع الجولان؟». وأوضح: «اليوم هناك أكثر من 16 نقطة ساخنة في عموم سوريا لا يستطيع أحد ادعاء السيطرة عليها ويفتقد فيها المواطن البسيط أدنى درجات الأمان، ورغم أن هذا المواطن في الغالب غير مؤيد للنظام ولا لغيره ممن يسمون الجيش السوري الحر فإنه لا ينجو من هجمات أي منهما ولا من الخطف من الشبيحة في مقابل فدية أو طلب إطلاق سجناء». وشكك في أعداد عناصر الجيش السوري الحر وانتقد كذلك نوعية عملياته.
وفي تصريح من الأردن، قال المعارض السوري كمال اللبواني إنه «ينبغي للأقليات الدينية والعرقية في سوريا أن تعمل مع الليبراليين السنّة لمواجهة نفوذ الإسلاميين في الانتفاضة».
وفي القاهرة، أكد رئيس غرفة عمليات بعثة مراقبي جامعة الدول العربية إلى سوريا السفير عدنان الخضير أن رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب، مصطفى الدابي، سيعود اليوم السبت إلى القاهرة من دمشق لتسليم الأمين العام نبيل العربي تقريره الثاني عما رصده المراقبون العرب ميدانياً على مدى شهر فى مختلف المناطق السورية التى تشهد اضطرابات واحتجاجات. واوضح أن الدابي أرجأ عودته إلى القاهرة 48 ساعة بعد تأجيل اجتماع اللجنة الوزارية العربية المعنية بالأزمة السورية من غد السبت إلى بعد غد الأحد.
من جهته، أكد مصدر دبلوماسي عربي مسؤول أن «كل المؤشرات الواردة من دمشق ومن عدد من العواصم العربية بعد التشاور في ما بينها هو أن يجري التمديد لبعثة المراقبين العرب في سوريا ومضاعفة عددهم إلى نحو 300 مراقب». وأوضح أن هذا مرده إلى «إعلان الحكومة السورية الموافقة على التمديد ووجود رفض من عدد من العواصم العربية لفكرة إرسال قوات عربية إلى سوريا وعدم إغلاق نافذة الحل العربي للأزمة السورية».
ومن المقرر أن يجتمع وزراء الخارجية العرب في القاهرة يوم الأحد لتحديد ما إذا كان ينبغي تمديد البعثة أو إنهاؤها. ومن المقرر أن يصل أيضاً برهان غليون رئيس «المجلس الوطني السوري» المعارض على رأس وفد إلى القاهرة حيث يعتزم مقابلة العربي. وقال بيان صادر عن «المجلس الوطني» إنّ من المقرر أن يطلب هذا الوفد من الأمين العام للجامعة والوزراء العرب الذين سيلتقيهم «العمل على نقل الملف إلى مجلس الأمن للحصول على قرار يتيح إنشاء منطقة آمنة وفرض حظر جوي ويعطي قوة دفع دولية».
وقالت منظمة هيومان رايتس ووتش المعنية بحقوق الإنسان ومقرها نيويورك إن على الجامعة أن تنشر تقرير المراقبين بالكامل وأن تحث مجلس الأمن الدولي على فرض عقوبات مستهدفة تشمل حظراً للسلاح لوقف القتل في سوريا.
وقال الرئيس الفرنسي نيكولا ساركوزي إن «القمع الوحشي» للمعارضة على يد السلطات، يدفع سوريا إلى الفوضى ولن يستفيد منه سوى المتطرفين. وحث الجامعة العربية على تكثيف جهود المراقبة ودعا مجلس الأمن الدولي الذي تعوقه حتى الآن الانقسامات بشأن سوريا إلى التحرك.
بدوره، استبعد وزير الخارجية الفرنسى آلان جوبيه إرسال قوات عربية إلى سوريا، مشيراً إلى مواصلة بلاده الحوار مع المعارضة السورية لهيكلة نفسها. وقال جوبيه، في حديث لصحيفة «أويست دو فرانس» الفرنسية، رداً على سؤال عما إذا كان إرسال قوات، كما اقترحت قطر، خياراً ممكناً، إنه «في السياق الإقليمي الحالي، نحن لا نعمل على مثل هذا السيناريو». وأضاف: «في المقابل، نحن نتحاور مع المعارضة السورية لهيكلة نفسها والانفتاح على جميع النقاط الحساسة».
إلى ذلك، دعت مشيخة الأزهر في مصر، الحُكام العرب إلى اتخاذ إجراءات جادة وفورية لحماية الشعب السوري، والحيلولة دون «استباحة الآخرين لأرضنا العربية». وناشد الإمام الأكبر الدكتور أحمد الطيب شيخ الأزهر، في بيان، الحُكام العرب «العمل بجدية لفوقف العنف في سوريا، والحيلولة دون استباحة الآخرين لأرضنا العربية».
(الأخبار، سانا، د ب أ، رويترز، أ ف ب، يو بي آي)
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/32782
January 20th, 2012, 8:37 pm
zoo said:
News analysis: Syrian pound depreciation ominous for economy
2012-01-21 04:54:18
DAMASCUS, Jan. 20 (Xinhua) — The Syrian pound, which has struggled to remain stable during the past 10 months, is now in jeopardy in light of its continuing and rapid decline in its rate against the U.S. dollar.
The pound’s depreciation sends bad signals about the country’s overall economic situation and foretells that the Syrians will not ride out the current turmoil in the near future.
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/21/c_122613159.htm
January 20th, 2012, 8:48 pm
jad said:
أسرار باريس ـ دمشق: من مسرحيّة 7 أيار حتى لحظة الانفجار
7 أيار في بيروت كان مسرحيّة فرنسيّة ــ أميركيّة معدّة سلفاً، والسعودية تؤكدانتقال «مجاهدين» أصوليين منها الى دمشق، ومنذ البداية كان الأمر مشروعاً إسلاموياً، لسوريا ولبنان، وبتخطيط خليجي، ووساطة ساركوزية. هكذا تروي أوساط باريسية عارفة بالكواليس والخفايا والوقائع والأسرار
جان عزيز
“منذ الأسابيع الأولى لتوليه الرئاسة، بدأ ساركوزي التحضير لكسر القطيعة الفرنسية السورية. بسرعة، أعد لزيارة سرية لدمشق. خلية رئاسية متخصصة، من مجموعة مختارة بعناية كبرى، انتقلت بلا أضواء ولا أسماء، من أورلي الى مطار دمشق مطلع صيف 2007. في دائرة المهمات الخاصة في الإليزيه، أُعطيت المهمة عنواناً تعريفياً واضحاً: «ماذا تنتظر سوريا من فرنسا؟». في العاصمة السورية، كانت المواعيد متخذة عبر «مكتب فرنسي خاص»، يعرفه السوريون تمام المعرفة ويتعاملون معه دائماً على أنه القناة الجدية. توالت اللقاءات على مدى أيام، وكان البحث مركزاً في سياق توضيح النيات والأهداف: نحن هنا لنبحث في حدود انتظاراتكم من باريس. قالها الزوار الفرنسيون السريون: قولوا لنا بصراحة، ماذا تنتظرون من فرنسا الجديدة مع ساركوزي؟ بعدها سنعود الى بلادنا، ونبحث الأمر على مستوى رأس الهرم. إذا كان الطرح مقبولاً، نعود إليكم بما ننتظره في المقابل، وإن لم نعد، نتواعد على محطات لاحقة.
بعد أيام، كان تقرير الزيارة الدمشقية السرية على طاولة طبخ القرار في الإليزيه. المستشارون وفريق العمل قرأوه بتمعّن، حرفاً حرفاً. الكبار وأصحاب الأمر، أو «صاحبه» تحديداً، قلبوا صفحاته بلهفة لا بسرعة، للوصول الى فصل الخلاصات والتوصيات. هنا كانت ثمة فقرات محددة بالأسود، لتقفز بوضوح أكبر الى عيون المعنيين. تنتظر سوريا من فرنسا ثلاث مسائل: المحكمة والرئيس والاقتصاد.
بوضوح كبير، صاغ التقرير أجوبة دمشق الثلاثة حول ما تنتظره من باريس:
أولاً، لجهة المحكمة، ينتظر السوريون منا أن نمنع تسييس عملها، وأن نحول دون استخدامها وسيلة لاستهدافهم. كانت قد مضت أسابيع على القرار 1757، القاضي بإنشاء المحكمة تحت الفصل السابع في 30 أيار 2007، وكان الموضوع نجم التداول السياسي والإعلامي والتهويلي. صاغ السوريون انتظارهم بحذر ودقة: نريد من المحكمة الحقيقة في موضوع اغتيال رفيق الحريري. ونريد منكم ضمانة ذلك. فأنتم تعرفون أكثر منا أن قصة محمد زهير الصديق مهزلة لاغتيالنا. فلا تغطوا تركيبات كهذه.
ثانياً، لجهة استحقاق الرئاسة، كانت الأيام تمر بسرعة، في ظل العجز عن تأمين نصاب دستوري وغياب توافقي انتخابي. وكان الاتجاه صوب فراغ رئاسي بدا يتضح أكثر فأكثر. لم يحرم السوريون محاوريهم الفرنسيين من مفاجأة في هذا المجال. قالوا لهم: ننتظر ثانياً من باريس السعي معنا ومع كل المعنيين لإيصال الاستحقاق اللبناني الى خواتيمه الإيجابية. نحن واقعيون، براغماتيون، نعرف الموازين والحدود. نكتفي بأن نعرض عليكم لائحة بالأسماء التي نعتبرها تفخيخاً لهذا الاستحقاق، أو اقتراحات تعجيزية لعرقلته. بمعنى آخر، فهم الفرنسيون أن مضيفيهم لن يقولوا لهم من يريدون رئيساً للبنان، بل سيكتفون بالكشف عمن لا يريدونه رئيساً. كانت اللائحة طويلة نسبياً. وكانت المفاجأة الكبرى أن بينها أسماء «حلفاء» لسوريا. استغرب الفرنسيون الأمر. سألوا استيضاحاً تحت وقع المفاجأة: إذاً من تريدون رئيساً لو قُدّر لكم الاختيار؟ فكان الجواب موضوعياً جداً: نحن ندرك تماماً أن من نريده رئيساً لا قدرة لنا إطلاقاً على إيصاله. الباقي عندكم.
فهم الفرنسيون أن دمشق تحاول قلب الأدوار بينها وبين واشنطن، حيال ما كان عليه في استحقاقات رئاسة 1995 و1998 و2004. يومها كانت ثمة مقولة أن دمشق لديها «الصوت» ( Vote) وأن واشنطن لديها «النقض» (Veto). اليوم قررت سوريا أن تدعو واشنطن عبر باريس إلى تجربة اللعبة معكوسة: أنتم لديكم حق الاقتراع، ونحن لدينا حق النقض.
بقي بند ثالث على لائحة الانتظارات السورية من فرنسا: العلاقات بين دمشق وباريس، وبينها وبين أوروبا: الاستثمارات، العقوبات، الطيران والنفط وكل الملف الاقتصادي الاستثماري والتنموي.
بسرعة، اتخذ الإليزيه القرار: موافقون. وفي المقابل، نحن ننتظر منهم أمرين: أولاً، الاتفاق على استقرار الوضع اللبناني مع تعايش الرئيس المقبل مع سعد الحريري. ثانياً، إجراءات سورية داخلية طفيفة. ننتظر من دمشق إطلاق سراح هذه اللائحة من المعتقلين السياسيين المتقدمين في السنن والانفتاح «الإخوان المسلمين»، يمكن أن نبدأه في الخارجين العربي والأوروبي. استقرار لبنان بهذه التركيبة ضروري لتسهيل المطلوب على صعيد المحكمة الدولية. ذلك أن وجود الحريري، لا شخصياً، في السلطة عامل أساسي لتمرير أي تسوية في موضوع آلية قضائية معنية باغتيال والده. كما أن إصلاحات الداخل السوري وخصوصاً مواضيع حقوق الإنسان، ضرورية لتحقيق الانتظار السوري الثالث منا، على مستوى التبادل البيني والعلاقات الاقتصادية معنا ومع أوروبا.
عادت الخلية الرئاسية الى دمشق. عرضت الجواب الرئاسي الفرنسي. وبسرعة قياسية أيضاً حصلت على كل الموافقات والتصديقات اللازمة. فانطلقت عجلة التفاوض الرسمي والعلني بين العاصمتين، وخرجت زيارات غيان وليفيت الى الضوء، وصولاً الى وقوف بشار الأسد في الشانزيليزيه في 14 تموز 2008، إلى جانب 43 رئيس دولة، وبعد ثلاثة أعوام فقط من العزلة السورية المطبقة غربياً.”
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“اجتمعت حكومة السنيورة. كلمة حق تقال: لم يكن رئيس الحكومة موافقاً على المخطط. البعض يقول إنه أحسّ بأنها لعبة، اشتمَّ فيها شيئاً من المناورة. كان يدرك أن الحل سيخرجه من السرايا لمصلحة «الأصيل»، فيما «البديل» كان قد بدأ يطرب للافتات الطريق الجديدة: «دولة الرئيس … رئيس الدولة». في النهاية، كسر جنبلاط تردد السنيورة. فُتح الهاتف خارج قاعة جلسة 5 أيار الشهيرة، قيلت الكلمات الكبيرة. صار التهديد إمّا إصدار القرار ضد حزب الله فوراً وإمّا الاستقالة. فصدر القرار، وكانت الشرارة للسيناريو «المضبوب» في جارور في الإليزيه منذ كانون الأول 2007. اندلعت أحداث 7 أيار، وتماماً وفق التصور المسبق، ساعات قليلة وحُسم الوضع، لا عسكرياً وحسب، بل سياسياً أيضاً وأصلاً. حُسمت بكلمات قليلة من كوندوليزا رايس. في 9 أيار صباحاً، سمع سيد المختارة تصريح ناظرة خارجية واشنطن. لم يصدق الصدمة. بتعابير فجة، قالت حليفة الساعات القليلة السابقة: «ما يحصل في بيروت مسألة لبنانية داخلية …». فهم اللعبة: لقد خدعوني. فتح الخط مع طلال إرسلان. وقرر الحد من الخسائر، والذهاب الى مؤتمر الدوحة سائحاً متفرجاً.
بالنتيجة، أقر البند الأول مما طلبته باريس من دمشق: استقرار لبناني، بأرجحية حريرية، وبقي البند الثاني: ماذا ستفعلون داخل سوريا: إطلاق المعتقلين والمصالحة مع الإخوان.”
“«ظبطت» لبنانياً، ولم «تظبط» إخوانيّاً
على مدى عامين ونيف تقول الرواية الفرنسية، احترفت باريس تذكير دمشق بالمسألة الداخلية، من دون جدوى. مع أنها كما تقول، حتى في هذا المجال قامت بأكثر من مسعى للتسهيل والتمهيد. فبعد بضع خطوات سورية محدودة وجزئية، لجهة إطلاق سراح بعض المعتقلين، عملت فرنسا بالتنسيق مع الولايات المتحدة الأميركية، وبالتعاون المباشر مع كل من قطر والسعودية، على تأمين مناخ مساعد لنوع من الانفتاح بين دمشق والتنظيم «الإخواني. حتى إن اجتماعاً عقد في أوروبا على مستوى القيادة العالمية للإخوان، شاركت فيه تنظيمات كل من الأردن، مصر (محمد مهدي عاكف) وسوريا (علي صدر الدين البيانوني). وقصدت باريس وقطر أن يكون اللقاء تحت أنظار القيادي الإخواني السوري البارز، عصام العطار، المقيم في ألمانيا، وشقيق نائبة رئيس الجمهورية نجاح العطار، في محاولة لطمأنة دمشق. وفي شكل متزامن، عمدت الدوحة الى الضغط على الشيخ يوسف القرضاوي للتعاون، فأصدر في الوقت نفسه موقفاً إعلامياً أشاد فيه بالرئيس بشار الأسد. فاعتبرت باريس أنها سددت قسطها من الاتفاق الثنائي، ولبثت تنتظر الشق السوري المقابل. لكن على مدى عامين من الوعود وطلبات التريث، لم يتحقق شيء بحسب الرواية الفرنسية.
في هذه الأثناء، بدأت تظهر مؤشرات معاكسة: سيناريو دير شبيغل للمحكمة الدولية، الثورة المخملية في طهران إثر انتخابات حزيران 2009، وصولاً الى تقارير عن انتقال جهاديين أصوليين من السعودية الى سوريا عبر كردستان العراق. حتى إن بعض هذه التقارير أكد اعتراف السلطات السعودية بنحو 1850 «مفقوداً» من الأشخاص المراقَبين من قبل السلطات السعودية على أراضيها، نظراً الى الاشتباه فيهم، مع «ترجيح» انتقالهم الى دولة أخرى. عند هذا الحد، بدأت تظهر أولى علامات التفسخ في الاتفاق الفرنسي ـــــ السوري. وراحت تتبيّن أكثر فأكثر مشاعر الريبة والحذر وعدم الاطمئنان. أواخر سنة 2010 كان الاتفاق المذكور يلفظ آخر أنفاسه: سوريا تؤكد وجود مخططات متطرفة ضدها، والشق اللبناني يُدفن نهائياً بإسقاط حكومة سعد الدين الحريري. فأعلنت باريس أنها باتت في حل من كل تعهداتها، وبدأت الحرب.
وفي شهر آذار 2011، وصل مسؤول أمني سوري رفيع الى فرنسا، حاملاً لائحة طويلة من أسماء المتطرفين الإسلاميين، المرجح أن يكونوا قد تحولوا الى أعضاء في خلايا إرهابية نائمة في أوروبا. لكن الرد الفرنسي جاء فجّاً: لا نريد لوائحكم. انتهى الاتفاق السابق. لا تفكروا بعد اليوم بأي مقايضة بين تنسيقنا الأمني وتغطيتنا لنظامكم. من الآن فصاعداً، أنتم مسؤولون عن كل ما سيحصل لكم … وبدأت «الثورة السورية».
في النهاية، يقول الفرنسيون، بلغنا جميعنا المأزق نفسه. كلنا بتنا في خانة الجمود، لا قدرة على التقدم، لكن أيضاً لا إمكان لأي تراجع. إلى أين من هنا؟ إنها بداية نفق طويل.”
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/32810
January 20th, 2012, 8:48 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: BADDIE JADDIE
RE: “…I want you to be sure that nobody is paying me anything…”
Bullshit!
January 20th, 2012, 9:10 pm
jad said:
الانتفاضات العربيّة: مُخطّط أميركي؟
أسعد أبو خليل
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“لنتفق على أن الولايات المتحدة فوجئت بالكامل باندلاع الانتفاضات العربيّة كما فوجئ غيرها. لنتفق على أن الولايات المتحدة لا تريد أن تظهر أمام الشعب العربي على حقيقتها: مُفاجَأة ومذعورة من انتشار الانتفاضات العربيّة.”
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“الحقيقة التي لا لبس فيها أنّ إسرائيل وأميركا فوجئتا بالانتفاضات العربيّة. من يذكر كلمات جيفري فيلتمان أرفع «خبير» أميركي في شؤون الشرق الأوسط، مع أنّه أقلّ واحد ممن تولّوا هذا المنصب كفاءة، بعد انتفاضة تونس؟ ألم يقل إنّ مصر هي غير تونس، مُحاولاً أن يهدّئ من روع الصهاينة في الكونغرس الذي وضعوه في منصبه؟ ألم يهرع فيلتمان إلى تونس ثم إلى مصر في محاولة منه لترتيب الأوضاع من أجل إحداث أقلّ قدر ممكن من التغيير؟ ألم تعمل واشنطن على مدار الساعة على امتداد أسابيع وأشهر لتهدئة روع إسرائيل بعد اندلاع الانتفاضات؟ ثم، من يظنّ أنّ أميركا أو إسرائيل كانت وراء سقوط حسني مبارك؟ حسني مبارك كان أهم عنصر من عناصر النظام الإسرائيلي الإقليمي المفروض. ليست الدول العربيّة إلا أدوات مُنفّذة في هذه المنظومة الإقليميّة. (هل هناك من يصدّق أن أنظمة الخليج التي ورثت عن حسني مبارك مهمّة ترتيب البيت الإقليمي العربي بما يتلاءم مع مصلحة إسرائيل تعبّر عن شعوبها في تعبيرها عن الخوف المتعاظم من سلاح نووي إيراني موجود، وفي التعبير عن الراحة الكليّة من أسلحة الدمار الشامل الإسرائيليّة؟).
وبعض الصحافة الصهيونيّة يحاول إخفاء الذعر والهلع الصهيوني، الذي لحق بقادة إسرائيل ومؤيّديها بعد سقوط نظام مبارك. تخشى الصهيونيّة إدراك الشعب العربي مكامن قوّته الخلاّقة متى تفلّتت وانطلقت. انطلقت في عدد من المطبوعات نظريّات عن اقتباس أو استلهام الشعب العربي انتفاضاته من نظريّات غربيّة، وتكثّفت التقارير والمقالات عن دور لأكاديمي أميركي مُتقاعد لم يسمع به أحد في العالم العربي (اسمه جين شارب، وحظي بتغطية وافرة في الصحافة الغربيّة، كما أنّ واحداً من أتباعه تولّى إخراج فيلم مُضحك عن دور جين شارب العالمي، وقامت «الجزيرة» بشراء نسخة من الفيلم، وبثّته تباعاً مُترجماً. أرسل إلي المخرج نسخة منه وكتبتُ فيه نقداً على موقع «الأخبار» الإنكليزي). هل هناك من يصدّق أن نظريّات رجل أبيض هي التي ألهبت مشاعر الشعب العربي؟ من يصدّق روايات كهذه غير الصهاينة في واشنطن ومنظّرو الممانعة القلقون؟
طبعاً، لا تريد الحكومة الأميركيّة أن تعترف بالحقيقة علناً: بأن جين شارب لا علاقة له «بنوب»، كما يُقال في سوريا، بالانتفاضات العربيّة. فهو من الداعين إلى التغيير السلمي، لكن نظريّة الانتفاضات السلميّة كانت إسقاطاً من أميركا بهدف تقييد حركة الشباب العربي (كما فعلت بالنسبة إلى فلسطين، عندما شرعنت العنف الصهيوني، وجعلت من مقاومة الشعب الفلسطيني إرهاباً خطيراً). تريد الولايات المتحدة إقناع الشعب العربي بحرمة استعمال العنف إلا لغايات تخدم مصلحة إسرائيل ومصلحة المُستعمر الأميركي (لا تمانع أميركا في تسليح ميليشيات من الأوغاد ومن مجرمي الحرب من أفغانستان إلى العراق). لم يظهر أبداً أنّ الشعب العربي اعتنق عقيدة اللاعنف لأنّه يعي أنّها لا تُطبّق ولا تُطلب إلا من المقهورين والمعذّبين ومقاومي الاحتلال. تعظ الولايات المتحدة الشعب العربي عن جدوى اللاعنف، فيما هي تمارس العنف على نطاق عالمي وواسع. ليس صحيحاً طبعاً أنّ الشعب العربي التزم بمبدأ اللاعنف، كما أنّه ليس صحيحاً قطعاً أنّ الرجل الأبيض كائناً من كان هو الذي ألهم الشعب العربي. والغريب أنّ انتفاضات «حركات الاحتلال» المناهضة للرأسماليّة في أميركا تعترف عن حق بأنها هي استلهمت تحرّكها من الشعب المصري.”
لكن كيف للإعلام الموالي للنظام السوري أن يغرّد النغمات الصهيونيّة نفسها؟ كيف ينظر إلى كلّ الانتفاضات العربيّة كأنّها مؤامرة صهيونيّة، هل فقط لأنّ الغضب الشعبي وصل إلى سوريا؟ وكأنّ الشعب السوري (بصرف النظر عن حركات معارضته) يفتقر إلى دوافع الاحتجاج ضد النظام الذي يرزح تحته، مثله مثل باقي الشعوب العربيّة. يريد أدعياء النظام السوري أن ينام الشعب السوري على الضيم، وأن يكتفي بطعام من شعارات الممانعة ووعود لا تزال ضبابيّة بالإصلاح؟
لكن المجلس الوطني السوري ومطالباته المتزايدة بتدخّل الناتو (على أن يلتزم جنوده عدم التبويل على الشعب السوري) أو من لفّ لفّه، تساعد دعاية النظام على ربط (جائر) بين كل فرد في معارضة النظام، ومؤامرة صهيونيّة أميركيّة.
إنّ الولايات المتحدة تحاول أن تلتقط أنفاسها وهي تجرّب اللحاق بمجريات الانتفاضات العربيّة. هي تلهث وأقطابها مصابون بالإعياء. هي بالتأكيد لم تكن مرحّبة بأي من الانتفاضات إلا في سوريا وفي إيران (لو تجدّدت)، لكن الرأي الصهيوني الأميركي بشأن الوضع في سوريا لم يُحسم بعد: هناك رأي يقول إنّ النظام السوري الحالي حازم في ضبطه للحدود مع العدوّ، وفي منعه قيام مقاومة جديّة في الجولان المحتلّ، وهذا تأكيد على أنّه لا إسرائيل ولا الغرب تكترث لمعاناة الشعب السوري. وجهة النظر تلك ترغب في أن تؤدّي الانتفاضة السوريّة إلى إضعاف وإنهاك بشّار الأسد، لا إلى إسقاطه. لهذا، فإن المجلس الوطني السوري جعل من إسقاط بشّار لا من تغيير النظام بالكامل هو الهدف: لا بل هو تعهّد أن يعمل معاً مع الجيش السوري في بناء نظام جديد، أي إنّ المجلس السوري يعوّل على الجيش السوري الذي قمع وقتل متظاهرين في سوريا من أجل بناء وطن ديموقراطي جديد، لكن المجلس الوطني في هذا وفي غيره من الأمور، لا يعكس إلا الأجندة الخارجيّة، التي تتحكّم في مسار تنظيم الإخوان المسلمين، لكن هناك وجهة نظر صهيونيّة أخرى، تقبل تغيير النظام في سوريا، في مقابل تعهّد من الحكم الجديد بتجاهل ملف الصراع معها، وهذا بالضبط ما حصلت عليه إسرائيل من مواقف المجلس الوطني السوري، وخصوصاً من تصريحات قادة الإخوان المسلمين. إنّ المجلس الوطني السوري بات نسخة مبتذلة عن تجربة المؤتمر الوطني العراقي، الذي ارتمى في أحضان الصهاينة لتنفيذ غاياته، وأغدق الوعود للغرب عن اتفاقيّة سلم مع إسرائيل حالما يسقط صدّام. (وها هو أحمد الجلبي مجرّد بيدق بيد مقتدى الصدر وإيران).
هذا لا يعني أنّ الولايات المتحدة ليست ناشطة اليوم في كل الدول العربيّة دون استثناء: إمّا للدفاع عن النظام بقوّة وشراسة، كما هي الحال في دول الخليج والمغرب والأردن والجزائر، أو لمحاولة التكيّف مع واقع جديد في عدد من الدول العربيّة. ولا يمكن استبعاد استعانة أميركا وإسرائيل بالوسائل السريّة وبوسائل الخداع للتأثير على الشعب العربي، لكنّ أميركا فقدت زمام المبادرة والسيطرة في أهم دولة عربيّة بمقياس إسرائيل وأميركا. إنّ التفجير العاشر لأنابيب الغاز إلى دولة العدوّ الإسرائيلي يشي بحالة من فقدان السيطرة من قبل الاستخبارات المصريّة، التي عملت أميركا وإسرائيل على تشييدها من الصفر بعد القضاء على نظام عبد الناصر. لم تعد أميركا تأمر لتطاع، حتى وإن أراد المشير أن يستمرّ في طاعتها. ليس له من القدرة على الطاعة بعد اليوم. تتفكّك بعض أجهزة النظام، وخصوصاً الاستخبارية، بعد سقوط الطاغية. هذا لا يعني أن نظام مبارك سقط بالكامل، على العكس، تسعى أميركا ودول مجلس التعاون إلى المحافظة على نظام مبارك دون مبارك، لكن ليس هذا بالأمر اليسير.
إنّ الغرور والصلف يضربان رؤوس كل الطغاة العرب. يظن الواحد منهم أنّه في منأى عن الاحتجاجات والانتفاضات. ستذهب مقابلة بشّار الأسد مع «وول ستريت جورنال» مضرب الأمثال: استفاض في الحديث عن اختلاف نظامه عن الأنظمة المتهاوية حوله، فقط لأنّه ظنّ أن شعبه يستطيب شعارات الممانعة، وأنّ شعارات الممانعة تغني عن جوع وعن قهر وعن ظلم. كان ذلك يوم ناصر النظام ومؤيّدوه الانتفاضاتيْن في تونس وفي مصر. كل ذلك تغيّر بمجرّد أن اندلعت الانتفاضة في سوريا.
الانتفاضات التي كانت محمودة صارت، فجأة، في الخطاب الموالي للنظام السوري، خبيثة. عفويّة الشعب العربي التي كانت تحظى بالإعجاب زالت، وحلّ محلّها خطاب يحتقر العامّة ويصفها بالغوغاء. كانت الانتفاضات العربيّة حركة مُضرّة بالمصالح الأميركيّة والصهيونيّة، وتحوّّت بين ليلة وأخرى إلى مجرّد أداة في يد الصهيونيّة العالميّة. هناك نبرة عنصريّة أكيدة في خطاب التأييد للنظام السوري. هناك تحميل للشعب السوري لمسؤوليّة خيارات والإخوان و14 آذار السوريّة. الحزب الذي تغنّى بالجماهير بات لا يرى في الجماهير إلا أدوات بيد أميركا. هل كان الأولاد في درعا جزءاً من المخطّط الصهيوني هم أيضاً؟
حركة الانتفاضات العربيّة اندلعت لأسباب محض داخليّة، وإن تداخلت فيها تدخّلات خارجيّة حرفت مسارها أو اختطفتها في أكثر من حالة عربيّة، ولا سيما في ليبيا أو في سوريا، لكن حراك الاحتجاجات مستمرّ، ولا يمكن تحويل جمهور المحتجّين في سوريا إلى مجرّد جيش مطيع للإخوان المسلمين. إنّ تداخل العوامل الداخليّة أو تشابكها مع العوامل الخارجيّة يعود إلى حسابات وتحالفات من قوى في المعارضة، أو حتى من تنازلات تُفرض على حكومات فاقدة للشرعيّة، وتقبلها تلك الحكومات مثل سوريا من أجل الحفاظ على السلطة بأي ثمن. إنّ التدخّلات الخارجيّة لا تعني بالضرورة أنّ كل متظاهر يرفع مطالبة بالتدخّل الخارجي هو جزء من مخطّط أميركي، على بشاعة هذا المطلب، وخصوصاً أنّ بشاعة المثال الليبي الماثل كان يجب أن يبدّد تلك الأوهام حول قدرة الناتو على تحرير العرب وبناء ديموقراطيّة لهم، حبّاً بالعنصر العربي، كما أنّ حسابات وارتباطات الإخوان تفرض أجندة وشعارات تتعارض مع عفويّة الاحتجاجات التي وسمت الحقبة الأولى من الاحتجاجات الشعبيّة.
تهين الشعب العربي مقولة سيطرة أميركا على مقدّرات العالم العربي. من المهين تعميم نظريّات مستقاة من الاستشراق الغربي المبتذل عن عدم قدرة العرب على تحقيق الديموقراطيّة. إنّ مؤيّدي النظام السوري يستميتون في الدفاع عن النظام السوري دون اعتبار للعنصريّة التي تتضمّنها المقولات التي يسوقونها. إنّ معاداة الانتفاضات العربيّة في المطلق، بصرف النظر عن الحالة المُعيّنة، وعن الظرف المكاني، تلتقي مع نظريّات تشكّك في قدرة العرب على حكم أنفسهم، وعلى تغيير مستقبلهم.
لن تتوقّف الانتفاضات، وإن مرّت بحقب ومراحل متنوّعة. ستصعد وستخفت وتتفجّر. المسألة ليست في أسابيع أو أشهر. المراحل الثوريّة لا تُقرأ بروزنامة من يرصد الخلافة في نظام ملكي. ستأخذ سنوات. أميركا وإسرائيل ستقفان بالمرصاد: هما بمثابة الثورة المضادة «البيضاء» الرجعيّة التي واجهت البلاشفة لسنوات لا لأشهر في روسيا بعد اندلاع الثورة. قلبهم يخفق جزعاً، وقلبنا يخفق شوقاً وأملاً.
http://al-akhbar.com/node/32765
January 20th, 2012, 9:11 pm
Ghufran said:
ديمقراطية أنا وحدي
أثارت فتاوى للصادق المهدي، إمام طائفة الأنصار زعيم حزب الأمة السوداني، حالة من الجدل أخيراً للدرجة التي دفعت دعاة من الرابطة الشرعية والدعاة لتفكيره ومطالبته بالتوبة عن تلك الفتاوى.
ودعت الرابطة المهدي إلى تغيير أقواله والاستتابة أو تقديمه لمحاكمة شرعية، وهو الأمر الذي دفع عدداً متزايداً من المثقفين والناشطين السودانيين لرفض أي نوع من التفكير أو العنف الفكري.
معارضة سلفية
وقال الشيخ محمد عبدالكريم، عضو الرابطة الشرعية للعلماء والدعاة، في مقابلة مع “العربية” بثتها اليوم الجمعة، إن مشكلة المهدي ليست مع الرابطة الشرعية أو مع السلفيين، ولكنها مع قطاعات أخرى من العلماء أصدورا فتاوى بحقه.
وقال إن الصادق المهدي لديه مشكلة فكرية حتى مع جده الإمام المهدي إمام الأنصار الأول، وهو قال في كتابه إن أحكام المرأة في الاسلام التي أصدرها جده الإمام المهدي كانت متشددة، وعزا ذلك إلى أن المجتمع السوداني في القرن الرابع عشر الهجري كان متفسخاً ومنحلاً.
وقال عبدالكريم إن هذه ليست المرة الأولى التي تصدر فيها عن الصادق المهدي مثل هذه التصريحات، وقال بالحرف الواحد إنه ليس هناك حجاب بمفهوم الزي الخاص بالمرأة في القرآن الكريم، وادعى أن كلمة الحجاب كانت خاصة بأمهات المؤمنين.
January 20th, 2012, 9:48 pm
Ghufran said:
باريس: اكدت صحيفة لوفيغارو الفرنسية مساء الجمعة ان مقتل الصحافي الفرنسي جيل جاكييه في 11 كانون الثاني/يناير في حمص وسط سوريا ناجم عن خطأ ارتكبه “الجيش السوري الحر”، في معلومات سرعان ما نفتها ممثلية هذا التشكيل العسكري السوري المنشق في باريس.
وقال مسؤول في المعارضة السورية في فرنسا لم تكشف الصحيفة عن هويته “انه خطأ كبير من جانب المعارضين”. كما نقلت لوفيغارو عن مسؤول في الجامعة العربية طلب ايضا عدم الكشف عن اسمه “بتنا نعلم ان هناك خطأ ارتكبه الجيش السوري الحر”.
واعلنت ممثلية “الجيش السوري الحر” في باريس ردا على سؤال حول هذه الاتهامات “نفيها القاطع” لمعلومات صحيفة لوفيغارو، مجددة اتهام النظام السوري بالوقوف وراء مقتل الصحافي الفرنسي.
January 20th, 2012, 9:52 pm
jad said:
If the outlines of the report as claimed in Annahar, it will be a bad news for the opposition and some ‘democratic’ Arabs like ‘Qatar’ and ‘honest’ France, they may try to either cancel the Observers’ mission or to make it impossible for Al Dabi to continue the mission.
The main points of AL Observers report:
-The media is reporting from Syria including many Arabic and international channels
-The Syrian government and the oppositions were helpful
-There is an existence of armed militia that target Syrians and the observers.
“النهار” تنشر عناوين تقرير الدابي
لبنان غير متحمس لإرسال قوات عربية
خليل فليحان
“وأفادت أن البند الرئيس المطروح على اجتماع الوزراء الساعة الرابعة والنصف بالتوقيت المحلي، هو مناقشة تقرير رئيس البعثة الفريق محمد الدابي، وعلم ان العناوين الاساسية لتقريره هي:
أولا ان المراقبين لاحظوا تمثيلا لفضائيات عربية كافية “العربية” و”الجزيرة” ودبي و”المنار” اللبنانية و”العالم” الايرانية ومراسلين لأقنية أجنبية مثل “بي بي سي” والتلفزيون الجزائري، والتلفزيون الالماني والنمسوي ومراسلين لصحف تركية وبريطانية. وثانيا، لاحظت البعثة ان هناك تجاوبا من الجانب السوري بعد انتشار المراقبين، وأن المعارضة رحبت بهم واطمأن اليهم المواطنون، وجاء في التقرير أنه ثبت للبعثة ان مسلحا لا يتقيد بنصوص البروتوكول ويطلق النار على المراقبين وعلى المواطنين.
ثالثا، لفت التقرير الى تعرض المراقبين لحملة اعلامية وصفت بأنها “شرسة وغير مسبوقة”. ويخلص الدابي الى ان هناك جهات تسعى الى احباط مهمة المراقبين.
وعدد التقرير ما أنجزه المراقبون من تنفيذ بعض ما ورد في البروتوكول الموقع بين سوريا والجامعة، كاطلاق عدد لا بأس به من المعتقلين وانسحاب الآليات الضخمة والأسلحة الثقيلة من الشوارع. ويقر الدابي بأن المراقبين لم يتمكنوا من وقف أعمال العنف، ويذكر ان عددا منهم تعرضوا لاطلاق نار وعولجوا وكانت اصاباتهم طفيفة. وسيطالب الدابي بسيارات مصفحة وبدروع للمراقبين لوقايتهم من اطلاق النار، وبأجهزة اتصال. وسيُسأل عن صحة ما يروى من انشقاقات في صفوف القوات المسلحة، وهو كان أبلغ اللجنة الوزارية ان هذا مقتصر على جنود يؤدون الخدمة العسكرية ويهربون بسلاحهم.
وسيقترح رئيس اللجنة الوزارية المكلفة متابعة تنفيذ المبادرة التي وضعها مجلس وزراء الخارجية العرب، رئيس وزراء قطر ووزير الخارجية الشيخ حمد بن جاسم بن جبر آل ثاني لزيادة ميزانية البعثة من مليون الى خمسة ملايين دولار أميركي، وهي قابلة ايضا للزيادة من أجل تنفيذ خطة العمل العربية. وحض الشيخ حمد الدول الاعضاء على الاسراع في دفع المستحقات.”
http://www.annahar.com/article.php?t=main&p=5&d=24625
January 20th, 2012, 11:16 pm
zoo said:
Kamal al Labwani : A new anti-islamist voice in the SNC. Would he survive?
Syrian opposition leader seeks to counter Islamists
http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/syrian-opposition-leader-seeks-to-counter-islamists-1.408391?trailingPath=2.169%2C2.216%2C2.295%2C
Prominent Sunni Muslim opposition figure Kamal al-Labwani says most Syrians want Islam to ‘remain a religion, not a political party’
Syria’s religious and ethnic minorities need to work together with liberal Sunni Muslims to counter the influence of Islamists in the uprising against President Bashar Assad, a prominent Sunni Muslim opposition figure said.
Kamal al-Labwani said Islam was being used to galvanize street protests against Assad and the population had grown more devout, but most Syrians still want Islam to “remain a religion, not a political party”.
“The bloody repression has given the opportunity for clerics to pump Jihadist Islamist values into the street, so we have seen the emphasis on slogans such as ‘God is great’ and martyrdom,” Labwani said.
Syria’s Christian, Alawite, Ismaili and Kurdish communities, which form about 30 percent of the population, should join ranks with Sunnis opposed to mixing religion with politics, he said.
There are few accurate indicators of public opinion in Syria but many minority groups, including Assad’s own Alawite sect, are reluctant to support the uprising, fearing an Islamist takeover if the president were to be toppled.
Islamists made strong gains in elections following the overthrow of entrenched leaders in Egypt and Tunisia, and are also a growing influence in post-Gadhafi Libya. But Labwani said Syria’s broader religious mix made that unlikely in his country.
“If we allow Islamists to take over the revolution it will be a problem (but) if we ask the rebels to deny their identity and their religion it will (also) be a problem,” said Labwani, a
53-year-old physician from the town of Zabadani who left Syria after being released from a lengthy jail term in November.
“The solution is to form an all-encompassing current that respects civic and individual rights.”
No Islamist democracy
The main Muslim Brotherhood movement and other Islamists in the opposition say they do not aim to turn Syria into an Islamic state and that they will honor democratic practices, although some secular Syrians are skeptical.
“If Syria becomes a religious dictatorship, the next day you will see a crisis and the day after civil war,” Labwani said. “There has been no Islamist democratic country in history, and we do not want to try to be the first.”
But he said Assad’s minority Alawite sect, an offshoot of Islam that has dominated the country for the last five decades, needed to take a stand against a crackdown that has killed at least 5,000 people, according to a United Nations count.
“The Alawite community still has to take a clear position against the killings by the regime,” he said, pointing to Syria’s 300,000 Shi’ite minority whom he said have distanced themselves from Assad and continue to co-exist with Sunnis, even though Shi’ite Iran is Assad’s biggest supporter.
Labwani met U.S. officials in the White House in 2005 to push for support for human rights in Syria. He was arrested upon return but was freed under an amnesty last year and fled to Jordan.
“It was impossible to stay in Syria and be publicly active in the opposition. If one appears on television one is either arrested or assassinated. I also wanted to help strengthen the Syrian National Council,” Labwani said.
He was referring to the main opposition group which formed in Istanbul last year and which is heavily influenced by Islamists such as the Muslim Brotherhood.
The Brotherhood, which played a major role in armed opposition to Assad’s late father Hafez Assad in the 1980s, has said it no longer wants an Islamist state and supports a civic democratic system in future.
But Labwani said Islamist politics must change more.
“This region will not stabilize without a reformation in Islamic culture that creates an Islam compatible with liberal values and modernism and breaks the totalitarian dogmatic Islamist thinking,” he said.
“This project needs work,” he said. “It will start in a free Syria after the revolution triumphs.”
January 21st, 2012, 12:07 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Any report from the AL observers must be made public,so all syrians know about it,AL tend to talk in secret,SNC must know everything and must publicise everything.
God bless the FSA
January 21st, 2012, 12:13 am
Juergen said:
Irritated
Well what else is it that keeps you among the worshipers of this dying regime than your believe? I did not see any proof in that article. If i take the same technique of you guys i could say why are there no names listed of the informers within the AL? Does this make it more credible when LE FIGARO prints it?
When i read the BBC report its not more obvious or different from what the swiss reporters were saying, and the BBC reporters were inside the group of chosen ones who were taken directly at the site of the attack. If the opposition did that why was there no counterattack? Given three shoots were made, one with an military mind could make out from where the attacks where launched. To my limited military knowledge i would say that the lauch was less than 500-800m away, probably from the roof of an building. Also as the reporters said, why did the military escorts left right before the attacks?
I am the last to give the opposition an what we call in German an Persilschein- an clean record. There are no excuses and let there be no misunderstanding any violation of human rights by whomsoever should be made public.
This regime is after what we have heard from Hama in 1982 capable of doing atrocities and let there no doubt about it they have the means and the motiv to make hell on earth for everyone who endanger their system. Why has the world so easily accepted the possibility that the Medan bombings were more likely carried out by the government itself? In my understanding this brutalization of the civil masses is an result of the brutality this regime showed to its own citizens for no other reason than to create fear and to stay in power with this fear.
A friend of mine fought in the bosnian war and he described me that in one village they had found all inhabitants killed. The only place in the village which looked kind of normal was the bakery. There was smoke coming out the chimney. When they opened the oven they have found 4 children who were put alive in the oven. He told me that after that the next time they captured an Serbian, he got beaten to death in a slow way so he would suffer more. I believe it takes just a few episodes or experiences like that to create killer machines, we all are bound to morality,but if we experience such we will all most likely become less of a human. This is true for opposition forces as for government forces.
People like you will of course not see this part of reality, and here we are back to my conclusion that many are out there who still worship this regime, and their daily prayer is bashar wa baas.
January 21st, 2012, 12:27 am
Juergen said:
As Arab League mandate expires in Syria, activists turn to U.N.
Liz Sly
for The Washington Post
“About 40 monitors have already left because they felt unsafe, said an Arab League official in Cairo who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to the news media.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/as-arab-league-mandate-expires-in-syria-activists-turn-to-un/2012/01/19/gIQAPlWgBQ_story.html
January 21st, 2012, 12:47 am
jad said:
Zoo,
Mr. Labwani is one of the few liberals who joined the SNC because they found in the MBs the strongest mule they can use to get rid of the regime, that about it, and their plan is to defect from the SNC the moment the regime falls, the MBs know that too and they too can’t wait for the regime to fall to ditch the liberals, but for now, both of them need each others and they are using each others to get the strength each one of them misses.
This partnership wont stand for an extra one hour when they get what they want, therefore, all these comments by the liberals or the secular figures of the SNC are allowed, just for now!
January 21st, 2012, 1:05 am
Syria no kandahar said:
ثورة اولاد القحبه اولاد العرعور
التتريون الانذال امثال تارا
January 21st, 2012, 1:05 am
Syria no kandahar said:
مناطق في سوريا لم تتحرر من الحضاره بعد
January 21st, 2012, 1:10 am
jad said:
As predicted, Zibaleh’s boys are unhappy with the AL Observers’ report. Nato, Occupation, Destruction and more Blood are what they want nothing else:
عبيدة فارس: شخصيات متنفذة في الجامعة العربية من مؤيدي بشار الاسد
اعلن عضو المجلس الوطني السوري عبيدة فارس، لـ”الشرق الأوسط”، ان “المجلس قد تجاوز موضوع تقرير بعثة المراقبين العرب، وتوجه أمس بطلب إلى الجامعة العربية من أجل تحويل الملف إلى مجلس الأمن.
وأضاف أنه “من الواضح أن الجامعة ليست لها قدرات حقيقية على وقف الانتهاكات التي تقع في سوريا، نتيجة لوجود بعض الأطراف العربية التي تضغط باتجاه تمييع دور الجامعة العربية، والحد من أي خطوات حقيقية يمكن أن تقوم بها”.
وأكد فارس اننا “تواصلنا مع عدد من المراقبين، الذين أكدوا أنهم شاهدوا الكثير من الأمور ولم يتمكنوا من تسجيلها في تقريرهم، نتيجة لرغبة أطراف في الجامعة العربية في صدور تقرير لا يتضمن لهجة قاسية تجاه النظام”. وقال إن هذا يعود لأن بعض الشخصيات المتنفذة في الجامعة العربية من مؤيدي بشار، والنظام يستخدمهم لشراء الوقت وتقديمه على أنه يعاني من عصابات.
وأضاف أن هذه الجهات “تعلن رسميا، أو بشكل شبه رسمي، دعمها للنظام السوري، وتحاول تفريغ التقرير من محتواه. وهي تسعى الآن لتمديد وجود المراقبين، وإرسال مراقبين عسكريين، سعيا لمنح الأسد مزيدا من الوقت”، وقال فارس إن أحد هؤلاء قال في جلسة خاصة جمعت مجموعة من السياسيين إن “الأزمة كلها تتلخص في 3 آلاف ناشط، ولو أعطينا بشار فرصة حتى نهاية شباط سيتمكن من القضاء عليهم”.
وتابع “هناك مراقبون، مثل أنور مالك وآخرين، كانوا يخبروننا، أولا بأول، بما يحدث حقيقة في سوريا، لكنهم كانوا مُصرين على عدم النشر حتى يغادروا سوريا، وأيضا لالتزامهم بالقسم الذي أدوه، لكن بعد انتهاء مهمتهم ستعلَن تقاريرهم للملأ”.
January 21st, 2012, 1:11 am
Ghufran said:
أبت الدراسات والتقارير الدولية المعنية بتمكين المرأة إلا أن تدرج مصر ضمن قائمة الدول التي لا تحظى فيها المرأة بفرص تمكين سياسي مقبولة عالميا. ففي دراسة للاتحاد البرلماني الدولي عن التمثيل البرلماني للنساء في 188 دولة حول العالم نشرت عام 2008، جاءت مصر في المرتبة 134، حيث لم تتجاوز نسبة وجود المرأة المصرية كنائبة في البرلمان 2% فقط.
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النتائج المتواضعة التي حققتها المرأة في الانتخابات البرلمانية لا تتناسب بأي حال مع الوجود الفعلي للمرأة في المجتمع المصري، والذى ينعكس بشكل لافت في ثقلها الديمغرافي حيث تمثل نسبة 50% تقريبا من إجمالي عدد السكان
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وفي ذات السياق، وضع المنتدي الاقتصادي العالمي في تقريره حول “الفجوة الجندرية العالمية” والذى شمل130 دولة حول العالم، مصر في المرتبة 122 من حيث التمثيل البرلماني للمرأة. يأتي هذا رغم حصول المرأة المصرية على حقها في المشاركة السياسية تصويتا وترشيحا عام 1957 بموجب دستور 1956، وهو ما يعتبر توقيتا مبكرا للغاية إذا ما قورن بتجارب دولية أخرى تأخرت كثيرا غير أن المرأة فيها تمكنت من تجاوز نظيرتها المصرية لاحقا.
وفي سياق متصل، خيمت أجواء من الغياب والتهميش على وجود المرأة في برلمان الثورة، ليس فقط كمرشحة وإنما أيضا كنائبة برغم مشاركتها الملفتة في عملية التصويت، والتي فاقت مثيلتها لدى الرجال إلى حد جعلها عنصر الحسم الرئيس في نتائج الانتخابات. فلقد رصد تقرير المركز المصري لحقوق المرأة تضاؤل إجمالي المقاعد التي حصلت عليها المرأة في انتخابات مجلس الشعب الأخيرة قياسا إلى عدد المرشحات، فضلا عن تراجع أعداد المرشحات والفائزات في الجولة الثانية عن الأولى وفي الثالثة عن الثانية برغم تنامى نسبة النساء اللائي شاركن في عملية التصويت بشكل مطرد حتى آخر أيام الماراثون الانتخابي.
ففي حين لم تفز أية امرأة على جميع المقاعد الفردية، كان نصيب المرشحات على القوائم الحزبية هزيلا، فبينما لم يتجاوز عدد المرشحات بالمرحلة الأولى 376 مرشحة، فازت ثلاث فقط بثلاثة مقاعد على القوائم الحزبية.
وفي المرحلة الثانية، فازت ثلاث مرشحات فقط من بين 328 مرشحة. أما في المرحلة الثالثة والأخيرة، والتي اختزل عدد المرشحات فيها إلى 280 مرشحة، فلم يتم الإعلان رسميا عن فوز أى منهن حتى جولة الإعادة. ومن ثم، توقع خبراء ألا تتعدى حصيلة مقاعد المرأة في برلمان الثورة -انتخابا وتعيينا- 15 أو عشرين مقعدا على أقصى تقدير بما لا يتعدى نسبة 1,5% فقط من إجمالي مقاعد البرلمان.
والمثير في الأمر أن هذه النتائج المتواضعة لم تتناسب بأي حال مع الوجود الفعلي للمرأة في المجتمع المصري، والذى ينعكس بشكل لافت في ثقلها الديمغرافي حيث تمثل نسبة 50% تقريبا من إجمالي عدد السكان، و25% من قوة العمل، و49% من طلاب الجامعات و40% من مجموع الناخبين المسجلين في جداول الانتخابات.
January 21st, 2012, 1:13 am
Syria no kandahar said:
I know from friends that in kamishli ,the same 500
People have been going every Friday .most of them are بوييجيه and بياعيين علكه or حرامية قناني غاز وبسكليتات.They get paid 500liras a week.
January 21st, 2012, 1:16 am
jad said:
صديقي س ن ك
أنا أخر شخص يحق له اعطاء نصيحة للأخرين في هذا المجال لكن كأخ عزيز أريد أن اطلب منك أن تحاول قدر المستطاع ألا تهاجم أي شخص لم يتعرض لك دون مبرر.
رجاءً 🙂
January 21st, 2012, 1:26 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
Jad
Thanks.believe it or not : This is a war,it is a war between Dark and light,civilization and
Destruction ,honesty and lies….I don’t care about the regime all I care about is not to
Let those Terrorists get hands on a country I love.Any one who support terrorists is an enemy to the syrian people.With all the noise going around we have all lost the Syrian rhythm and became more or less neutralized with any thing.Tactics of pro terrorists crow
On this site has been very successful in making every one doubt the basic stuff.Any one who is not with the revolution in Bab Omer gets killed,Any one who is not with the revolution here at SC gets attacked by pro terrorists gangs like Revlon,Tara,Majed the Salafi,Khaled the Wahabi and Hyatham the Christian molla….I am too busy to be on SC
And exose their lies day and night….They are all paid representative at this site:Revlon
Is MB payroll,Tara is MB or Turkish agent,Amir is Mossad payroll,Majed is Salafi pay roll
…..they all have one common goal:DESTRUCTION OF SYRIA.
January 21st, 2012, 1:56 am
jad said:
Dear SNK
I understand your frustration and pain, I’m with you.
What do you think that makes me stay on SC this long? Like you, it’s my passion to Syria, however, if we learn one thing from this is that we must bring our differences to the table and talk about it, it’s not about Bashar anymore, some people think it is, I don’t, it became too big, too complicated, too important and too costly to concentrate it in one person, it’s not, he can be replaced but we can’t replace our homeland.
I think it’s about the future of all of us together, not mine or yours or Tara’s alone, it’s the future of all of us and if we can’t work it out between us with the huge differences and mistrust we have nobody can make it work and for the sake of Syria we must do it the right way, it may take time until we gain trust again but we have no choice, learning to listen to each other fears, visions, ideas and try to close the gap between us is what will make it work, other than that we are committing a suicide.
We are just few Syrians of many who are doing the exact same thing,so try to let your anger out but don’t make it take over your logic, we all need cool heads, me first, am I right my dear friend SNK 🙂
Here is something that may make you feel better, Mr. Yaseen Haj Sale7 for some ‘reason’ suddenly is waking up only after 10 months, he and his friends just noticed that naming the Fridays should be done in a different way and Fida2 shouldn’t be the only one choosing tsk tsk tsk 🙂
تسمية أيام الثورة في سوريا
بسبب القمع الذي تمارسه صفحة الثورة السورية ضد بشار الأسد أرتأينا أن تقوم جهة مستقلة بالعمل من أجل أن تبقى ثورة هي ثورة الشعب السوري
Yassin Al Haj Saleh
لازم ما نوفر أي جهد لانتزاع تسمية ايام الجمعة من صفحة “الثورة اللسورية ضد بشار الأسد”. تسمية أيام الثورة هي بمثابة وضع يد رمزي على الثورة وخصخصة إيديولوجية لها، تسجلها باسم تيار إيديولوجي محدد، يعني بالعربي الفصيح خصخصة للثورة. وهذا لم يعد ممكنا الاستمرار في السكوت عليه.
الجماعة مفكرين يسموا الجمعة الجاية جمعة إعلان الجهاد. هذا فوق وضع اليد على الثورة وخصخصتها رسالة شديدة السوء لعموم السوريين، وللعالم ككل. وهي خلافا لما يظنه أصحاب هالافتراح لا تخاطب إلا أقلية محدودة من السوريين، يعني هي اقل حتى من أن تكون تسمية طائفية.
لكن بدل ما ننق ونتذمر، لازم نعمل شغلتين. أولا الإصرار على إنو الثورة ثورة السوريين جميعا، ويشوف كل حدا منا كيف ينخرط فيها وكيف يشارك.
وثانيا لازم نقترح تسميات قوية، تجمع وتخاطب الشعب السوري، وتعكس الالتزام الجذري بالثورة حتى النهاية.
January 21st, 2012, 2:25 am
Revlon said:
The word is somehow getting through from the higher command of FSA to field units.
Talbiseh Martyr’s Battalion has been inaugurated as per directive of the FSA higher command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w4MKoaImR5M
تلبيسة – تشكيل كتيبة شهداء تلبيسة في مدينة تلبيسة 19-1-2012
January 21st, 2012, 3:26 am
Revlon said:
FSA is liberating Syria Post Post, and Zanga Zanga!
This video shows a fortified Assad forces post destroyed by FSA fighters, along with their transport bus.
19 1 2012 Talkalakh Homs أوغاريت تلكلخ حمص , عملية نوعية للجيش الحر
تدمير حاجز المستوصف وقتل من فيه ج2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XLTGbaBVlGQ
Uploaded by UgaritNews on Jan 19, 2012
19 1 2012 Talkalakh Homs أوغاريت تلكلخ حمص , عملية نوعية للجيش الحر تدمير حاجز المستوصف وقتل من فيه
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4EIw-BojlU&feature=related
Uploaded by UgaritNews on Jan 19, 2012
January 21st, 2012, 3:34 am
Revlon said:
More Assad army posts are eliminated.
Six Assad forces posts were hit by FSA yesterday; two were completely destroyed.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
بيان صادر عن الجيش السوري الحر لواء خالد بن الوليد
Announcement by KIW Brigade in Homs
20/01/2012
قام لواء خالد بن الوليد بضرب 6 حواجز في مدينة الرستن و تم تدمير 2 منها تدمير شامل
والنصر لشعبنا الحر الأبي
January 21st, 2012, 3:38 am
Revlon said:
اسماء الاسد تبيع حصصها في شركات أوروبية
Asma AlAssad sells her shares in Europian companies, as well as companies she owns in the Gulf through Arab Investors.
2012/01/21نشر فى: أخبار محلية
Ali AlYami
AlSharq Newspaper
القصيم – علي اليامي : صحيفة الشرق
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/47414
قال رجل الأعمال السوري فداء الناجح الذي يدير شركة أوروبية بهولندا لـ «الشرق» إن زوجة الرئيس السوري أسماء الأسد تجري مفاوضات مع سماسرة عرب لبيع حصتها بشركة عالمية تتعامل بإنتاج الزيوت الخردة ومقرها أوروبا، وأن أسماء الأسد تتحاور حاليا مع سمسار لبناني من أجل البيع. وقال إنه اطلع على محتوى الاتصالات الأخيرة التي أجرتها أسماء الأسد مع تجار أوروبيين وسماسرة لبنانيين لبيع حصتها البالغة %30 من رأسمال الشركة..
وأكد الناجح أن «هناك تحركاً ونشاطاً واسعاً داخل عائلة الرئيس السوري لتحويل الأموال من المصارف السورية عبر أصدقائهم ورجال أعمال لبنانيين» وأضاف الناجح أن عائلة الأسد «تحاول التخلص من شركات تملكها أسماء الأسد في دول عربية مسجلة بأسماء رجال أعمال عرب وبيعها بالسرعة الممكنة وأشار إلى أن «السيدة الأسد أخرجت من سوريا كميات من الذهب والممتلكات الخاصة عبر صديقات من جنسيات مختلفة لبنانية، ويونانية وهولندية».
January 21st, 2012, 3:55 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
Revlon
You are sick minded ,psycko,blood thirsty Moran .you love killing and blood.what happened with your peaceful fucking lies?
Why are your rats turning their behind to the camera ?is that because they are like your god Alaaroor exposing their behind?
January 21st, 2012, 3:55 am
Revlon said:
سرقة متحف درعا الوطني ليل أمس
Daraa Museum was looted las night by security forces.
It is the second looting of Museums since the start of the revolution. The first one was in Hama where a golden statue of Aramic diety was stolen by Baathist caretaker of the museum.
2012/01/21نشر فى: أخبار محلية
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/47403
قالت “الهيئة العامة للثورة” إنه تم سرقه جزء من مقتنيات المتحف الوطني بمحافظة درعا ليل أمس الجمعة 20-1-2012 من قبل بعض عناصر الأمن، وأكدت الهيئة ان الآثار المسروقة كانت موجودة بالطابق الثاني وهي مجموعات آشورية ورومانية تعود لآلاف السنين. ونوهتى “الهيئة” إلى إن هذه هي الحادثة الثانية التي تسجل في سوريا لسرقة الآثار خلال الثورة حيث سبق وأن أُعلن عن سرقة تمثال ذهبي يمثل إله آرامي يعود للقرن الثامن للميلاد من متحف حماة وآظهرت التحقيقات ان أمين المتحف هو السارق
January 21st, 2012, 3:59 am
Syria no kandahar said:
Your gangs uncivilized Aaroorists pigs did that Mr Allah Akbar.The Same pigs looted Bagdad musem and Cairo musem, Same pigs destroyed Buddha statue in Afghanstan,it is All the same infection,you are not in fault ,you are just infected.
January 21st, 2012, 4:27 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
Heroic work of the Bastards of FSA: Killing civilians.watch this and see shrameet alFSA
In Action.They don’t even know how to stage a show.watch them while they kick they daughter of this old Christian man away after they killed him.The San thing is the Christian
West is supporting these Shrameet.So far at least 500 Christians have been killed by the shrameet Wahhabis in Homs and surroundings .The Pope,Sarkoozi,Europ,USA ….all
Are supporting these Shrameet :
January 21st, 2012, 5:58 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
SNK,
The only “terrorists” I see are the members of the Alawi junta that you so much admire.
.
January 21st, 2012, 7:21 am
Ghat Al Bird said:
@271.
Selective amnesia at work referencing “terrorists”. This has bee published in Haaretz and the guardian. Another proof of the practice of dual loyalties by the chosen ones.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/uproar-after-jewish-american-newspaper-publisher-suggests-israel-assassinate-barack-obama-1.408429
January 21st, 2012, 8:08 am
Ghufran said:
النضال في جبال الألب
بيروت: خضع رئيس الحكومة اللبنانية السابق سعد الحريري إلى عملية جراحية جراء إصابته بكسور في ساقه اليسرى أثناء ممارسته رياضة التزلج في منطقة الألب الفرنسية.
وتمت العمليّة في المستشفى الأميركي في باريس بنجاح. وكان الحريري نُقل إليها من منطقة الألب حيث كان يمضي مع زوجته وأولاده إجازة لمناسبة عطلتهم المدرسية”.
وذكر المكتب الإعلامي أنَّ “الحريري كان تلقى بعد تعرضه للحادث إسعافات أولية في أحد المراكز الصحية في المنطقة، ثم جرى نقله بعد ذلك إلى المستشفى الأميركي حيث أُخضع لجراحة إستمرت ثلاث ساعات”.
January 21st, 2012, 10:33 am
Tara said:
Ghufran,
What is wrong with skiing?
Skiing is a good sport. It is good for the heart and the psychological well being.
January 21st, 2012, 10:45 am
irritated said:
Juergen
If you keep coming back with the massacre of 1982 that many justify as a retaliation to terrorists acts, why don’t you come back to 1939-1945 massacres that no one can ever justify? There were horror stories much worse than in Serbia or Syria.
Racism and violence is still latent in Germany and you know it. Germans and French are the last to give lessons
By the way, I am the last to give the regime an what we call in German an Persilschein- an clean record.”
I worship no one and I only want the Syrians to get out of that mess with the least suffering and avoiding the destruction of the social tissue that makes the beauty of this country of tolerance .
January 21st, 2012, 10:48 am
Ghufran said:
ريما فليحان
الذي يريد اعلان الجهاد سيعلن بنفس اللحظة عن نعوة الثورة المدنية الملونة بألوان كل مكوناتها.. الذي سيعلن الجهاد سيطلق الرصاصة على الثورة وسنصبح ليس فقط تحت نيران النظام بل ايضا تحت نيران كل العالم .. الذي سيعلن الجهاد سيقدم هدية لا تثمن بثمن للنظام لانه سيعطيه حجة يثبت بها النظام كل اكاذيبه حول طائفية الثورة وسلفيتها وانها ثورة سنية وليست ثورة شعب… اتوسل اليكم لا تقتلوا ثورتنا…
Tara: there is nothing wrong with skiing, I am just jealous.
January 21st, 2012, 10:57 am
zoo said:
Reaching the tipping point
Shane Farrell, January 21, 2012
http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=355159
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Indeed anti-Assad Security Council members, the United States, France and Britain—as well as other leading Western states—seem happy to take a back-seat approach; more concerned, it would seem, with domestic and financial matters. Granted, they have condemned and sanctioned the regime, but this has been their policy for many months. Clearly their actions and calls for reform are being ignored. They have also called for the matter to be discussed in the Security Council, though these calls have been less fierce and frequent than in the past. A systemic drive to pressure Russia and China is conspicuously absent.
Turkey, which is playing a central role in the drive to oust Assad, by, for example, hosting the Syrian National Council and issuing the most vociferous threats against the regime by any NATO member, has also been less vocal in recent weeks.
Meanwhile, other Arab League countries such as Saudi Arabia and its GCC partners are conspicuously quiet; they appear unwilling to steer the ship, yet are unprepared to let the Security Council take control. Bahrain is troubled by its own anti-regime demonstrations, which a GCC force helped to violently subdue in March, and a sterner position on Syria would obviously smack of double standards. But rather than pay lip service to Syrian protesters and extend the ineffective observers’ mission, they should push for the Security Council to take on a greater role.
…
Although it will be no mean feat, through their cumulative efforts, Arab League members, Western states and Turkey could exert enough pressure on Russia and China to ensure that a meaningful resolution in the Security Council is adopted. This may just be the tipping point.
To read more: http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=355159#ixzz1k6pQZJAw
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January 21st, 2012, 11:01 am
Revlon said:
270. Dear Syria no Kandahar:
The English title of the video, its English subtitles and its annotated English summary are gross and twisted misrepresentation of its Arabic sound track!
Your posting of this fabricated video underscores the blind hatred that you hold against your opposites.
Your posting was either an honest, yet stupid, Muallem-style mistake, or a deliberate and diabolic act act of deception targetting Non-Arabic readers on SC; In either case it speaks for a rash, subcortical judjement.
You said:
((Christian Man in Homs Killed By terrorists In Homs Dec 13 2011
Heroic work of the Bastards of FSA: Killing civilians.watch this and see shrameet alFSA In Action.They don’t even know how to stage a show. watch them while they kick they daughter of this old Christian man away after they killed him.
The San thing is the Christian West is supporting these Shrameet.
So far at least 500 Christians have been killed by the shrameet Wahhabis in Homs and surroundings .The
Pope,Sarkoozi,Europ,USA ….all
Are supporting these Shrameet ))
Here is the English translation of the conversation that took place in Arabic in that video, which carry completely the opposite message to that portrayed in the forged subtitles and annotated summary:
Here are the facts of the video as told in Arabic in the sound track:
Young rescuers/civilian bystanders shouting in panic:
– There! She is inside the car!
– Homs, Bab AlSbaa
– Allhu Akbar (God is greater)!
Young resucer addressing the lady driver:
– Easy, easy !
Lady replies in anger:
– Leave me alone; I do not have the time for you!
Rescuer to the Lady driver:
– Get down here I said; You are wounded in the neck!
– Come down here! You need to fix your neck!
Lady driver:
Leave my father!
My Neck?!
Rescuer: Allahu Akbar (God is Greater)! There is shooting at people driving cars!
– The Guy is dead! He is dead!
– He has been Martyred.
– May God disown you Bashar (Al Assad)!
– Qalaa Checkpoint (Assad forces) are shooting at people driving cars!
Another Rescuer shouting:
– The Guy is Christian. He is neither Salafi nor Mindass (Infiltrator)!
– The bullet entered from the back! Look at the wound!
– He is neither Salafi, Nor Mindas!
– This is Bab Alsbaa, Haj Badr AlQasiri street!
– Allahu Akbar (God is greater)!
– There are no Doctors around! The street is deserted!
– The date is 13/12/2011 Bab Al Sibaa.
– The guy was hit while inside the car with his daughter!
– Hurry! Some one brings a car!
– Watch out for shooting from Qalaa checkpoint!
– Let’s lift him up
– Say in the name of God and let’s pull him away!
– God is greater Ya Bashar
– Homs Bab AlSibaa
An older man was shot while riding in a car. He is Christian. His name is Sami Makhoul! He was killed.
His daughter was wounded in the neck.
Reading the conversation one can tell that those civilians were
– in panic
– trying to evacuate a mortally wounded civilian
– allerting the daughter to a wound in her neck.
– Muslems
– disgusted at the killing of a Christian as he could not be a Salafi!
– The shooting was coming from Qalaa check point (Assad forces)
– damning bashar Al Assad for killing people!
There you have it!
Cheers!
January 21st, 2012, 11:05 am
zoo said:
The FSA kills police and 14 prisoners.
Ambush of police truck carrying prisoners in northern Syria kills 14
By Associated Press, Updated: Saturday, January 21, 9:38 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/ambush-on-police-truck-carrying-prisoners-in-northern-syria-kills-15/2012/01/21/gIQAAGwpFQ_story.html
BEIRUT — A string of explosions struck a police truck transporting prisoners in a tense area of northwestern Syria on Saturday, killing at least 14 people, the country’s state-run news agency and an opposition group said.
Troops fought intense battles against defectors elsewhere in northern Syria, activists said, leaving “dozens” of people wounded. The 10-month uprising against Syrian President Bashar Assad has turned increasingly militarized and chaotic as more frustrated regime opponents and army defectors arm themselves and fight back against government forces.
SANA news agency blamed the attack on the police truck on “terrorists” and said it occurred on the Idlib-Ariha highway, an area near the Turkish border that has witnessed intense fighting with army defectors recently.
Four bombs that went off in “two phases” hit the truck, and then attackers targeted an ambulance that arrived to assist the wounded, SANA reported.
Six policemen who were accompanying the prisoners were also wounded, some of them in critical condition, it said.
The British-based opposition activist group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, confirmed the incident Saturday and said 15 prisoners were killed.
Rami Abdul-Rahman, director of the group, said the truck was hit by several roadside bombs, but it was not clear who was behind the attack.
There was no immediate claim of responsibility, but members of the so-called Free Syrian Army are known to be active in the area.
….
January 21st, 2012, 11:09 am
zoo said:
January 21, 2012
For the Muslim world, it’s not a safe and easy path to modernity
By DOUG SAUNDERS
From Saturday’s Globe and Mail
Countries like Tunisia and Egypt are changing the same way France did, with wild swings of revolution and reaction
A year ago, as he watched the great uprisings in Tunis and Cairo, French scholar Olivier Roy declared that they marked the end of Islamist politics. “If you look at the people who launched these revolts,” he wrote, “it is clear that they represent a post-Islamist generation. … The new revolutionaries are perhaps practising or even devout Muslims, but they separate their religious faith from their political agenda. In that sense, it is a ‘secular’ movement that separates religion from politics.”
Well, you might say, how awkward. Those January protesters may have been secular and liberal, but, when I visited Tahrir Square six months later, Islamists commanded the stage. We’ve recently watched Egypt’s first somewhat free elections give 48 per cent of the vote to a party controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood, plus 20 per cent to 28 per cent to Salafists, who aren’t just Islamist but want an actual theocracy. Secular liberals were left with a rump of 15 per cent to 20 per cent. If this is “post-Islamist,” it sure has a lot of crescents and guys with beards.
This week, Dr. Roy – probably the world’s most respected scholar on Islamic societies and politics – was asked to explain himself on French radio. Did the Islamist electoral victories in Tunisia and Egypt pour cold water on his “post-Islamist” prognostication? Quite the contrary, he said. They proved it. The new individualism behind the Arab revolutions, he said, has led Arabs to vote for parties with an Islamic identity (in large part, because “secularism” was strongly associated with the dictatorships they overthrew) – but, in the process, it’s forced those parties to abandon the Islamist goal of a pure religious society governed only by the Koran.
“Islamist movements like Ennahda in Tunisia and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt can no longer even be called Islamist,” he said. “They are conservatives analogous to the religious right in the United States.” Much as socialist parties in the West had to abandon the revolutionary goals of Marxism to become electable, the new Islamist parties have had to give up actual Islamism: They can’t impose the Koran on people, but rather combine “a religious reference” with democratic bids to influence “family values.”
I don’t quite share Mr. Roy’s optimism. While an Iranian-style theocracy isn’t a possibility in Egypt, there are leaders in the Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party whose views on women and Israel are alarming enough and whose ties to Egypt’s military overlords appear authoritarian enough that the result could look a lot like Islamism.
Where the “post-Islamism” scholars do have a point is in their reading of the trends that led people to vote for the Islamist parties. These, paradoxically enough, are driven by a shift to secularization of private life. Egypt and its neighbours are in the midst of the same demographic change that revolutionized the West two centuries ago: Fertility rates are falling to European levels, and institutions such as first-cousin marriages are becoming increasingly rare. Religion has become a badge of identity, not a way of life.
This shift has made Islamists desperate to seize influence, because social influence can now only be won through politics. And it has put them in a unique position to gain it. Former Ottoman states such as Egypt never bothered to replace the religious obligation to give alms with a secular obligation to pay taxes. So the imams and mullahs became not only the leading voice of dissent but also the leading source of welfare. That, more than the Koran, wins them votes.
“The fundamental contradiction of Islamism is that its leaders think of themselves as guardians of a tradition, whereas the popular wave behind them is the result of a modernizing mental revolution,” demographers Youssef Courbage and Emmanuel Todd write in their analysis of Muslim-country modernization, A Convergence of Civilizations. “Political victory is inevitably followed by cultural defeat.”
In between comes a tumultuous time. The Muslim world is becoming modern the same way France did, with wild swings of revolution and reaction. “Westerners would like to forget,” the two demographers conclude, “that their own demographic transitions were also strewn with many disturbances and a good deal of violence.” It’s not a safe and easy path, but it’s progress.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/doug-saunders/for-the-muslim-world-its-not-a-safe-and-easy-path-to-modernity/article2309955/
January 21st, 2012, 11:12 am
jna said:
271. Amir in Tel Avivsaid:
SNK,The only “terrorists” I see are the members of the Alawi junta that you so much admire.
Tell that to the relatives of the victims please. https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=13169#comment-292011
January 21st, 2012, 11:34 am
Ghufran said:
The shift in western thinking,if you believe there was actually a shift,is to keep a weak government in Syria with or without Bashar,keep the sanctions and pressure Iran and its friends until the situation allows a more aggressive approach.
Removing Bashar will give his opponents a symbolic victory which is not probably enough to pacify the streets but it can send a signal to Iran and Hizbullah. This plan includes forming a government that gives the power-hungry opposition access to Syria’s limited sources and help balance an expected surge of islamists. The fight over Syria is not about oil or money,it is about Iran and the balance of power in the middle east,the well-being of
Syrians is at the buttom of the wish list of western and GCC government.
This plan is doomed to fail as it ignores the will of a significant section of the Syrian society which is not ready to accept a half victory,it also underestimates the determination of the Iranian regime. The more probable course is further escalation until the Iranian issue is settled,and even then,Syrians in the streets may choose to reject any compromise. The weakest party here is secular Syrians who may emerge as the top losers, the failure to omit the line about the religion of the president in the constitution draft is an example,the regime kept it in an effort to win the support of certain segments of the religious establishment.
January 21st, 2012, 11:48 am
zoo said:
Another blunder of the chaotic FSA, killing its own allies and blaming the governement.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/01/20121219212823456.html
Al Jazeera’s Zeina Khodr, following events in Syria from neighbouring Lebanon, said the police vehicle may not have been deliberately targeted.
“There are roadside bombs planted [by the opposition] all along the highway in that area,” she said. “The police vehicle may have been targeted unintentionally.”
Idlib, the base of many defected soldiers, has become a stronghold of the armed opposition, which has been targeting army convoys to prevent them from regaining pockets of territory under the opposition’s control.
“This is strategic territory because it could provide them with a supply route to Turkey,” our correspondent said.
Syrian activists in the Turkish border city of Antakya blamed the bus explosion on the government, saying it was carried out to “get rid of prisoners”.
…
January 21st, 2012, 11:52 am
majedkhaldoun said:
United states is considering closing its embassy in Damascus,due to security concerns, I really do not understand why did US send back Mr. Ford back to Damascus.
We hear lately the pro regime on SC saying, Bashar can be replaced,He used to be their God, I think this indicate that they are begining to realize the end is coming.
FSA is gaining , their number is increasing, and their power is more evident, as in Zabadani and ma3arret al nu3man.
God bless FSA
Druze are joining the revolution, and many christians are changing their mind and begining to support the revolution, also common people start to complain and tired of the Assad criminals.
January 21st, 2012, 12:07 pm
Afram said:
TARA IN A BAG!
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/gallery/bags/
January 21st, 2012, 12:10 pm
Ghufran said:
السفير
يتعلم السوريون في مدارسهم وجامعاتهم كما في حلقاتهم الحزبية ومقاهيهم السياسية ان بلادهم هي قلب العالم العربي ومحوره الاستراتيجي وهي مدخل الشرق الاوسط ومركز العالم الذي لا يمكن ان يطل على الشرق كله الا من دمشق، التي لا يمكن ان تكون حرب او سلام من دونها.
وهو عارض لا يقتصر على السوريين وحدهم بل هو يشمل غالبية الشعوب العربية التي اكتسبت تلك الثقافة السياسية بناء على دراسات مبسطة لخريطة العالم وعلى قراءات قديمة للجغرافيا السياسية مستمدة من معطيات القرن التاسع عشر، عندما كان موقع اي بلد عربي هو العنصر الحاسم والوحيد في تحديد أهميته، وعندما كان تاريخه هو العامل المؤثر في تحديد دوره وراجت نظرية الجسر بين القارات والحضارات والامم ، من دون اي اعتبار للقيمة الفعلية التي تمثله هذه البلدان ومن دون اي تقدير للتطور الهائل في معارف الغرب ومصالحه وطموحاته العربية.
وهو وهم سبق ان أصاب الفلسطينيين الذين اعتبروا انفسهم، وربما ما زالوا، الرقم الصعب في العالم العربي بل وفي الكرة الأرضية كلها، كما سبق ان أصاب اللبنانيين الذين زعموا انهم طليعة اليمين واليسار العربيين وظنوا ان بلدهم هو مرآة العرب ومنارتهم قبل ان يكتشفوا انه ملعبهم ومركز تسليتهم، كما سبق ان أصاب العراقيين الذين افترضوا ان نفطهم ومياههم تحميهم من الخراب والدمار ..
ما زال السوريون يعيشون على ذلك الشعار الاثير الذي يرددونه كل يوم، على اختلاف انتماءاتهم واتجاهاتهم السياسية: قلب العروبة النابض الذي ينزف الان بغزارة شديدة، من دون ان يبدو ان العرب يشعرون بالاضطراب، بل ببعض الوجع والأسى المستمد من بعض الحرص الذي تتنوع أشكاله وتختلف درجاته على الوطن السوري الغارق في حرب أهلية لا احد يعرف مداها ولا سبل إنهائها.. لكن الجميع يدرك ان سوريا لن تكون أغلى على العرب من فلسطين، او اهم من العراق، او اشد إغراء من لبنان، ولن تكون أيضاً اكثر إلحاحا من اليمن او مصر او حتى ليبيا او تونس مثلا .
حان دور السوريين لكي يدفعوا ثمن هذا الوهم الذي يبدو ان الثورة الشعبية تفككه من اجل ان تعيد انتاج هوية وطنية سورية ومصرية وليبية وتونسية طبيعية تستطيع ان تبلور في مرحلة لاحقة الهوية العربية على أسس عقلانية راسخة. الكلفة الدموية باهظة، لكنه مسار حتمي لا رجعة فيه، لا في سوريا ولا في اي بلد عربي آخر.
.. ويتحدثون عن مؤامرة خارجية على سوريا، لن يكون لها سند في قرار الجامعة العربية غداً في القاهرة بتمديد مهمة المراقبة البائسة، ولا في التزام الغرب بان يصرخ بأعلى صوته مستنكرا المذبحة التي تمثل ذروة الخيانة للثقافة السياسية السورية المشوهة.
January 21st, 2012, 12:33 pm
Revlon said:
279. Dear zoo:
((The FSA kills police and 14 prisoners.
Ambush of police truck carrying prisoners in northern Syria kills 14
By Associated Press, Updated: Saturday, January 21, 9:38 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/ambush-on-police-truck-carrying-prisoners-in-northern-syria-kills-15/2012/01/21/gIQAAGwpFQ_story.html))
and
(( 283.
Another blunder of the chaotic FSA, killing its own allies and blaming the governement.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/01/20121219212823456.html
Al Jazeera’s Zeina Khodr, following events in Syria from neighbouring Lebanon, said the police vehicle may not have been deliberately targeted.))
You have posted two reports on the same incident.
Allegations of FSA responsibility, which they have denied, are based on Rami Abdulrahman’s and anonymous activist stories.
Members of SOHR are considering filing a law suit against him.
So-called Rami Abdulrahman has been expelled from SOHR.
Reasons given included his publishing of unsubstantiated reports of regime casualties and links to notorious Rifaat Al Asad.
The anonymous activist’s credibility is as uncertain as his identity!
The link to the SOHR was provided earlier on by JAD.
Here it is again.
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2012/01/syrian-observatory-for-human-rights_18.html
Cheers.
January 21st, 2012, 12:36 pm
Ghufran said:
The ambush on the bus carrying prisoners was probably conducted by anti regime armed forces who are now planting bombs in Hama and Idleb to target regime vehicles,it is fairly possible that they did not know that the bus was full of prisoners but the end result is the same: 15 Syrians are dead.
January 21st, 2012, 12:54 pm
Revlon said:
معتزجبل الزاوية
هااااااااام جدآ للنشر (( عدد الشهداء في سوريا هو أضعاف ال 7000 )) ::
http://www.facebook.com/Syrian.Supreme.Council
يوجد لدى النظام المجرم عدد كبير من جثث المعتقلين الذين قضوا تحت التعذيب ، وللتخلص من هذه الجثث الكثيرة يلجأ الآن النظام إلى تفجير باصات النقل ( مثل تفجير الباصات الثلاثة …خلال اسبوع في ادلب ) والعمليات الانتحارية المفتعلة (مثل تفجيرات دمشق) ويضم الى جثث قتلى التفجيرات جثث لمعتقلين وجثث لافراد امن وجيش تمت تصفيتهم بسبب رفضهم اطلاق النار على المدنيين ،، ثم ينسب التفجيرات للعصابات المسلحة فيكون بذلك قد أصاب عصفورين بحجر واحد :
الأول : يكون قد تخلص من الجثث الكثيرة للمعتقلين وأفراد الجيش والأمن
والثاني : اثبات وجود الارهابيين والعصابات المسلحة
وقد قامت قوات الأمن في مدينة ادلب اليوم :: 21-1-2012 :: باطلاق نار كثيف جدا من على الأهالي في المستشفى الوطني في إدلب بسبب فتحهم برادات الجثث في المشفى الوطني و اكتشاف 30 جثة احضرت اليوم للمشفى الوطني بينهم قتلى تحت التعذيب لدمجهم بقتلى تفجير باص المعتقلين الصباحي الذي افتعله الأمن ونسبه للعصابات المسلحة وفيمايلي فيديوهات لجثث القتلى التي اكتشفت في المشفى الوطني بادلب
( يجب أن يعلم العالم ان عدد الشهداء في سوريا ليس فقط 7000 بل هو أضعاف هذا العدد من المعتقلين الذين قضوا تحت التعذيب ولاتزال جثثهم مصادرة )
The following links show scores of bodies strewn in the mortuary, recently discovered by protestors at the Regional National Public Hospital.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGlZj6bz5L4&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVgXeQIFZEg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-gQsKYSvp4See More
See Translation link available at the website
January 21st, 2012, 1:06 pm
Revlon said:
288. Ghufran,
((The ambush on the bus carrying prisoners was probably conducted by anti regime armed forces who are now planting bombs in Hama and Idleb to target regime vehicles,it is fairly possible that they did not know that the bus was full of prisoners but the end result is the same: 15 Syrians are dead))
FSA announce all their operations; they have nothing to hide!
This operation was denied by FSA.
Claims by the notorious SANA and shady Rami Abdulrahman to the contrary serve to confirm FSA’s side of the story.
January 21st, 2012, 1:11 pm
Revlon said:
Three cars, Klashnikovs and a sniper rfile were confiscated by FSA Unit in Homs from the hands of Assad Shabbeeha.
The good news is these cars and rifles shall no longer be available to Shabbeha to use them in killing civilians.
Instead, they shall be used to patrol neighbourhoods and defend civilians against the agressors; Assad shabbeeha.
كتيبة ذو النورين غنائم من الامن والشبيحة.mp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQeHx7uyEgs&feature=player_embedded
Uploaded by raairaai1 on Jan 20, 2012
January 21st, 2012, 1:27 pm
zoo said:
Revlon #287
Al Jazeera :
“The Local Co-ordination Committees activist network confirmed the attack and the death toll, distributing footage purportedly showing the victims.”
I posted it a second time just because Al Jazeera’s article did NOT refer to the dubious and banned Rami Abdul Rahman.
January 21st, 2012, 1:28 pm
Tara said:
Prisoners being killed by the FSA in error is too shady of a claim to believe. More plausible explanation would be an innovative way by the evil regime to dispose the deads through a make-believe suicide bombs Qaeda- style or a road side bomb blowing a bus with full load of cadavers then blaming it on the revolution. The regime is probably afraid of mass graves that could be used as an incriminating evidence at the Hauge. How come Qaeda’s or FSA’s bombing never been deployed to only affect the regime or it’s supporters?
January 21st, 2012, 1:34 pm
son of Damascus said:
Irritated,
I have never read in any of Juergen’s comments that he supports the Nazi party, or any of Hitlers despicable crimes. As for the Germans having nothing to teach, lets examine some facts:
_ Germany: Not only recognizes the crimes committed by the Nazis but has outlawed the party (and any and all symbols to the party), built memorial museums where many of the innocent victims died, paid reparations not only to Israel, but to Poland, Netherlands, and the former Yugoslavia (Not to mention what they paid the Allies).
– Assad/Baath: Does not recognize any massacre happening, has paid no reparations, continues to exist and continues to massacre Syrians, has built a government owned Hotel over the bodies of the massacre.
Nobody is denying the fact the MB instigated a confrontation with the Syrian army, what is being denied is the over the top, scorched earth policy, punish the population tactics that the regime chose and continues to choose to this day.
January 21st, 2012, 1:38 pm
Revlon said:
اتحاد تنسيقيات الثورة السورية
Local Revolution Coordinators Union
عاجل وهام جدا!!!!! نرجوا من الجميع نشر الخبر وتعميمه على اوسع نطاق اخر احصائية للشهداء اليوم في مدينة ادلب وصلت الى 76 شهيد, 16 شهيد منهم سقطو في التفجير والباقي تم العثور على جثثهم في قبو المشفى الوطني بعد سيطرة الجيش الحر على المشفى بالكامل ادلب الساعة 7 والنصف مساءا
76 martyrs have fallen today, including 16 victims of the bus explosion.
All bodies were found in the mortuary of Idlib Public Hospital that was captured by FSA around 7:30 PM
21/01/2012
http://www.facebook.com/monasiqoon
43 minutes ago
More on today’s events by an FSA fighter in idlib
مدينة ادلب مقابلة مع الجيش الحر 21-1-2012
292. Dear zoo:
((Revlon #287
Al Jazeera :
“The Local Co-ordination Committees activist network confirmed the attack and the death toll, distributing footage purportedly showing the victims.”))
I have just provided the LCC statement!
Where did the LCC state that the attack was carried by FSA by mistake?
January 21st, 2012, 1:39 pm
defender said:
David Icke using our TV documents ! see it !
January 21st, 2012, 1:44 pm
Mina said:
From the Angry Arab
Syrian rebels in Zabadani
`Ali sent me this: ” About the picture of the “unshaved” Syrian rebels, They seem to be carrying “G3A3″ assault rifles, a German model used by only it’s two neighbors, the Lebanese Army, and the Royal Jordanian Land Forces, The Syrian Army is equipped solely with Ex-Soviet Bloc weaponry, So i guess there’s truth to the accounts of illegal arms transfer to the rebels,”
http://www.angryarab.com
1959 prisoners released from jail, including one Egyptian blogger (oh, sorry, it’s in Egypt!)
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/32306/Egypt/Politics-/Blogger-Maikel-Nabil-released-after–months-in-det.aspx
Saudi headache
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NA21Ak03.html
Petromonarchies’ political dreams
http://www.newleftproject.org/index.php/site/article_comments/class_and_capitalism_in_the_gulf_the_political_economy_of_the_gcc
January 21st, 2012, 1:57 pm
irritated said:
#294 SOD
Germany have a history of genocides and horrible medical experimentation on prisoners.
All germans bear the responsibility of what happened during the war, including young germans whose family were either pro nazi or accepted tacitly the massacres. It is a stain on their nation that nothing can ever correct and all the Germans deep inside know it. The worst part of it was that it was pure racism and cold blood on unarmed innocents. They were not provoked.
As for regretting and paying for forgiveness, they had no choice, they were vanquished, they lost the war.
After the Jews, we, Arabs, were next in the concentration camps.
Even today Germany suffer of a “mild form” of racism. It is obvious that if any economical crisis happen in Germany, their latent racism and feeling of their race superiority may reappear.
“Undercover journalist Gunter Wallraff traveled across Germany for more than a year wearing a dark-haired curly wig and with his white skin painted black.[20] The film reveals a frightening degree of racism in Germany. Wallraff said that “I hadn’t known what we would discover, and had thought maybe the story will be, what a tolerant and accepting country we have become,” said Mr Wallraff after a screening of the film Black on White in Berlin. “Unfortunately I was wrong.”[20][21]
With a past and a present like that, they have no lesson to give to anyone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Germany
January 21st, 2012, 2:00 pm
Revlon said:
292 Dear Zoo,
Here is what is currently posted on AlJazeera net web site in relation to todays events in Idlib.
I think you misread the two paragraphs that I translated below as belonging to the same source.
Read them again!
The first was an LCC statement.
The next was Al Jazeera statement.
الجيش الحر يخشى هجوما على الزبداني
60 قتيلا بسوريا وقتال عنيف بإدلب
http://www.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/50CE28C1-3296-4ADA-A3B8-39341A914F58.htm?GoogleStatID=9
قتل العشرات اليوم السبت في معارك عنيفة بين الجيش السوري ومنشقين، وفي تفجير حافلة سجناء في إدلب شمالي البلاد حيث عثر أيضا على ثلاثين جثة في مستشفى بالمدينة، مما يرفع حصيلة ضحايا اليوم إلى ستين على الأقل وفقا للهيئة العامة للثورة السورية. في الأثناء, قال الجيش السوري الحر إنه يتوقع هجوما للقوات النظامية لاستعادة الزبداني قرب الحدود مع لبنان.
وقال مراسل الجزيرة في تركيا -نقلا عن مصادر الجيش السوري الحر- إن 23 من عناصر الجيش والأمن السوريين سقطوا اليوم خلال مواجهات مع منشقين حول بلدة خربة غزالة التابعة لجسر الشغور بمحافظة إدلب المتاخمة للحدود مع تركيا.
وقالت لجان التنسيق المحلية إن الاشتباك اندلع عقب انشقاق عسكريين, مشيرة إلى مقتل ضابط من الجيش النظامي ومدني خلال تبادل إطلاق النار.
LCC stated that shooting erupted upon defection of military elements resulting in death of an Assad army officer and a civilian.
وبشكل متزامن تقريبا, قتل صباح اليوم 15 سجينا سوريا في تفجير استهدف حافلتهم على الطريق بين إدلب وبلدة أريحا القريبة بينما كانت قوات الأمن تنقلهم من موقع إلى آخر.
Around the same time (This is Al Jazeera statement, not the LCC)15 prisoners were killed this morning in an explosion that targetted their buss while being transported by security forces to another place.
وتحدثت وكالة الأنباء السورية عن أربعة انفجارات استهدفت الحافلة, وقالت إن “إرهابيين” هاجموا لاحقا سيارة إسعاف قدمت لإجلاء الجرحى. لكن ناشطين سوريين اتهموا أجهزة النظام بتدبير الهجوم, وتحدثوا عن استهداف الحافلة بأسلحة ثقيلة.
وأكدت لجان التنسيق المحلية في الأثناء اكتشاف ثلاثين جثة في مستشفى بإدلب, وقالت إن الأمن أطلق النار على الأهالي بعد اكتشافهم الجثث الموضوعة في برادات مما تسببب في جرح عدد منهم. ووفقا لناشطين فإن الأمن السوري أتى بتلك الجثث ليضعها مع جثث السجناء الذين قتلوا اليوم بهدف التمويه.
وتحدثت الهيئة العامة للثورة السورية من جهتها عن ارتفاع عدد القتلى اليوم إلى ما يقرب من ستين باعتبار الجثث التي عثر عليها في مستشفى بإدلب. وأشارت إلى سقوط قتلى في مناطق أخرى بينهم خمسة في حمص, واثنان في حلب, ومثلهما في ريف دمشق, بينما سقط قتيل في دير الزور.
ميدانيا أيضا, ذكرت لجان التنسيق المحلية أن مواجهات اندلعت بين قوات النظام والجيش السوري الحر في دوما بريف دمشق عقب إطلاق الأمن الرصاص على مشيعين.
ووسط العمليات العسكرية والأمنية والاشتباكات المتواترة بين القوات النظامية والمنشقين, خرجت مساء اليوم مظاهرات في عدد من المدن والبلدات بمحافظات ريف دمشق وإدلب ودرعا وحتى في دمشق حيث نظمت مظاهرة في حي الميدان تطالب بإطلاق المعتقلين وتحيي الجيش الحر
January 21st, 2012, 2:01 pm
Revlon said:
297. Dear Mina,
Syrian rebels in Zabadani
`Ali sent me this: ” About the picture of the “unshaved” Syrian rebels, They seem to be carrying “G3A3″ assault rifles, a German model used by only it’s two neighbors, the Lebanese Army, and the Royal Jordanian Land Forces, The Syrian Army is equipped solely with Ex-Soviet Bloc weaponry, So i guess there’s truth to the accounts of illegal arms transfer to the rebels,”
From the Angry Arab
You do need an angry arab to tell you that illegal arms are being transfered to “rebles”
Take it from the calm and self assured leader of the FSA!
He repeatedly said that FSA get their arms in part from dealers who operate across borders, especially from lebanon.
Moreover, some of the suppliers are Assad family and accomplices!
Unshaven rebels!
It just shows how disconnected some of those posters from the situation on the ground.
FSA fighters are on the run; they have much more pressing priorities than to shave their beards.
besides, with the ubiquitous, severe shortage in heating fuel and Gaz and electricity even civilians in restive areas now find it a luxury to shave.
January 21st, 2012, 2:08 pm
Norman said:
297. Minasaid:
From the Angry Arab
Syrian rebels in Zabadani
`Ali sent me this: ” About the picture of the “unshaved” Syrian rebels, They seem to be carrying “G3A3″ assault rifles, a German model used by only it’s two neighbors, the Lebanese Army, and the Royal Jordanian Land Forces, The Syrian Army is equipped solely with Ex-Soviet Bloc weaponry, So i guess there’s truth to the accounts of illegal arms transfer to the rebels,”
http://www.angryarab.com
No Mina, There is transfer of rebels and their weapons to Syria,
January 21st, 2012, 2:12 pm
Mina said:
The FSA is the monster militia that will stay for years carrying exactly the same horrors as the ones we see in Iraq, and will necessarily be opposed by other monster militias. Just what your masters in the Gulf want, poor nonsensical fashion-victim. If your all life is resumed to visiting malls and watching TV and the stock exchange news, why not just moving to the Gulf?
January 21st, 2012, 2:13 pm
Revlon said:
298. irritatedsaid:
((#294 SOD
Germany have a history of genocides and horrible medical experimentation on prisoners.
All germans bear the responsibility of what happened during the war))
Are all Syrians responsible for the war crimes that took place in Hama in 1982 and are taking place now?
As a Syrian notwithstanding your stance from the regime, do you bear the responsibility for the war crimes of Hama in 1982 and ongoing war crimes in Syria now?
January 21st, 2012, 2:21 pm
defender said:
JUERGEN as the German Jew can’t praise Nazi party, or any of Hitler’s disdained crimes. He is the missionary Zionist on color revolutions the unsuccessful student at late age.
This Germany is the direct criminal in relation to the Palestinian tragedy! All that that occurs in region and in Syria including it is result of their criminality!!!
مجلة “دير شبيغل”: سفينة حربية ألمانية تتجسس قبالة شواطئ سورية
الاثنين 16/01/2012 12:00
كشفت مجلة “دير شبيغل” الألمانية الأسبوعية اليوم، الأحد عن أن سفينة حربية ألمانية قامت بمهمة تجسسية قبالة شواطئ سورية.
وقالت المجلة – على موقعها الإلكتروني: “إنه تم رصد السفينة الألمانية التى تقل 85 بحارا على مسافة قريبة من الشواطئ السورية تصل إلى 15 ميلا بحريا فقط، أثناء قيامها بمهمة تجسسية بالمنطقة”.
وأضافت، أن المهمة السرية التى تم تكليف السفينة بإنجازها تمت بدون علم البرلمان الألمانى، وكانت تستهدف جمع معلومات باستخدام أجهزة استشعار عن بعد سمعية وبصرية.
وأشارت المجلة إلى أن سفنا حربية من ألمانيا – الحليف العسكرى الوثيق لإسرائيل العدو اللدود لسورية – قامت بمهام تجسسية مشابهة قبالة الشواطئ الليبية إبان الحرب الأهلية هناك.
January 21st, 2012, 2:22 pm
Revlon said:
301. Norman:
((297. Minasaid: No Mina, There is transfer of rebels and their weapons to Syria))
You mean the ones that were shown by Al Mu3allem in his press conference last a few weeks back?
Or else, provide us more than just hearsay; perhaps a link to a credible site with verified supporitve evidence!
January 21st, 2012, 2:30 pm
Revlon said:
304. defender,
What is your Arabic source?
Regime media?
Show the link please!
January 21st, 2012, 2:32 pm
defender said:
Arabic source : Syrian Defender !
January 21st, 2012, 2:45 pm
Revlon said:
اعدام أربعة مدنيين بسلاح مضاد للطيران في ادلب
Horrific scenes of execution missed or rather avoided by AL AlDabi who did not see anything scary in Syria.
4 civilians executed by Assad forces by anti-arircraft machine gun.
ادلب – جبل الزاوية: فصل جديد من مجازر الجيش الأسدي
اعدام أربعة مدنيين بسلاح مضاد للطيران في ادلب 19-1-2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCJ6y_S3CNc&feature=player_embedded
الشهداء هم:
1.الشهيد البطل نجيب اسماعيل الزين
2.الشهيد البطل محمد حسن حج ابراهيم من (( بلدة معراته ))
3.الشهيد البطل عمار مصطفى عثمان من ((بلدة البارة))
4.الشهيد البطل مهند عمر الحكمات من (( بلدة جوزف ))
AlFatiha upon their souls.
may God bless their families with solace and empower them with fortitude.
January 21st, 2012, 2:50 pm
Revlon said:
307. defender:
((Arabic source : Syrian Defender !))
How different are you from “German defenders”, who were once party to the Nazi regime crimes that you seem to despise (Your ref 304)!
January 21st, 2012, 2:57 pm
Revlon said:
اتحاد تنسيقيات الثورة السورية | Syrian Revolution Coordinators Union
http://www.facebook.com/monasiqoon
دير الزور : عاجل : اشتباك قوي في شارع الوادي بين كتيبة الشهيد معاذ الركاض وعناصر الامن والشبيحة نتيجة الاشتباك اصابة 26 من عناصر الشبيحة والامن وانسحاب كتيبتنا الباسلة بسلامة
Urgent- Deir Azzor: Shoot out broke between MR unit of the FSA and Assad forces resulting in 26 Sahbbeha casualties.
Our unit managed to withdraw safely.
31 minutes ago
21/01/2012
January 21st, 2012, 3:09 pm
Ghufran said:
Arming the opposition was a bad idea from the start,outsiders now are starting to compare regime violence with opposition violence and some are clearly having second thoughts about a total regime change. Proponents of an armed struggle are driven by an understandable urge for revenge and justice but they will destroy the country in the process.
January 21st, 2012, 3:09 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
94 killed today? Is it true?
.
January 21st, 2012, 3:19 pm
jna said:
“Syria’s govt said Al Qaeda was behind the Damascus bombings. Many were skeptical, but it seems the US thinks so too and is closing embassy.”
http://twitter.com/#!/lizsly/status/160486172706082816
Liz Sly
Beirut, Baghdad
Washington Post Baghdad Bureau Chief, covering Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and beyond http://www.washingtonpost.com
January 21st, 2012, 3:26 pm
Ghufran said:
There is clearly a backlash in social media against the Islamization of the Syrian uprising with people from Sunni background who are now worried about the direction this uprising is taking.
I am still hopeful that Syrians at the end will prove that they are tolerant and thoughtful and are able to change a bad regime without creating another that is worse.
January 21st, 2012, 3:28 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
This a real dialogue about two syrians that took place somewhere in the world in my presence. The subject a is M who lives in Damascus and is owner of a bussiness, he has relatives connected to the regime and beneffits from stability, with or without democracy. The subject R is living outside Syria long time ago,clearly oppositor and expecting to return to a more democratic Assad-free Syria in the future, he as most syrians is a sunni, and as most syrians abroad is liberal in politics.
R- What´s going on inside Syria, what is the situation right now inside Damascus?
M- There is nothing in Damascus, right some towns have violence but in Damascus there is no certain danger.
R- No man, what do you say if there are tens of dead every day.
M- What do you pretend, if you are outside the country, you do not know what is going on.
R- Don´t you see the news? Or just look at Sana? Come on guy, it´s crazy, this president must go.
M- Show me a real alternative. There is none. And as long as there is none I am sure that the fall of the president would bring tens of thousands of deads. And as I am living in Damascus I do not want to die.
R- There is already thousands of dead men, women and children.
M- All syrians abroad are against the regime because their lifes are not in danger.
R- Salam
M- Salam
January 21st, 2012, 3:37 pm
irritated said:
Revlon #305
“Are all Syrians responsible for the war crimes that took place in Hama in 1982 and are taking place now?”
No, they are not. The only that are the ones who accepted or were involved in the killing innocents because of their race or their religion.
Any war is full of crimes. Jews were not at war.
January 21st, 2012, 3:38 pm
jad said:
Al Dabi, is saying that his mission was not to stop the violence as the media trying to show but his mission is to ‘observe’ the situation on ground, which is true.
الدابي:مهمة بعثة المراقبين بسوريا الإطلاع على حقيقة الوضع لا وقف العنف
أكد رئيس بعثة مراقبي جامعة الدول العربية في سوريا الفريق أول محمد الدابي أن مهمة البعثة هي التحقق من تنفيذ الحكومة السورية لبنود خطة العمل العربية لحل الأزمة وليس وقف العنف والقتل الذي تشهده بعض المناطق السورية.
وأشار الدابي في بيان وزعته الأمانة العامة للجامعة العربية إلى ان مهمة البعثة هي الاطلاع على حقيقة الأوضاع والأحداث الجارية في سوريا من خلال المراقبة والرصد لمدى التنفيذ الكامل لوقف جميع أعمال العنف ومن أي مصدر كان في المدن والأحياء السورية.
واستغرب اصرار بعض وسائل الاعلام على الاشارة دائما الى أن مهمة البعثة وقف أعمال القتل والعنف.
وأوضح أن “فرق البعثة المنتشرة في مختلف المناطق السورية وخصوصا تلك التي تشهد اضطرابات واحتجاجات تجد تعاونا، ما يؤشر على مهنية وموضوعية أعضاء البعثة في أداء مهتمهم”.
However and as predicted, the results of the AL observers showing that the armed militias are working on ground and committing lots of crimes is in contrast to the continuous denial by the media wasn’t a good news to the opposition, Qatar and France so the reaction was irrational and in support of the armed militias. By doing that they are damaging the political stand of the SNC, and they look like as a terrorism supporter organization, not a wise and trustworthy political partners that Syrians can depend on and believe in for a better future. They are doing a huge mistake:
برهان غليون: تمديد مهمة بعثة المراقبين العرب سيكون خدمة للنظام السوري
لفت رئيس المجلس الوطني السوري برهان غليون الى أن “المشكلة هي مشكة شعب يطالب بحقوقها ويتظاهر سلمياً منذ 10 أشهر”، وأكد أن “النظام السوري هو من يتحمل مسؤولية العنف في سوريا”.
وعن تقرير بعثة المراقبين العرب، أكد غليون لـ”العربية” أن اللجنة لا يمكن أن يعتد كثيراً بتقريرها بسبب الظروف التي تعمل بها، معتبراً أن التمديد للبعثة في ظل هذه الظروف خدمة للنظام.
وأعلن أن الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي العربي “قال لنا ان تقرير بعثة المراقبين قد يشتمل على أمور غير مرضية لنا”.
وعن ما يسمى “الجيش السوري الحر”، أكد أن هذا الجيش يقوم بمهمة وطنية وهي الدفاع عن الشعب السوري.
January 21st, 2012, 3:52 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Irritated,
Again no one is denying the horrific crimes committed by the Nazis, and Germans should never forget the level of hatred and bigotry they showed.
But to hold all Germans responsible for the crimes that were committed is wrong, because in that same manner you should hold all White Americans responsible for the Slave trade (might I remind you that racism and bigotry still exists in the US), and all Male Americans responsible for the mistreatment and sexism towards female americans.
77,000 germans died resisting the Nazis, 10,000 germans fled Germany and joined the British Army, people like Oskar Schindler, Gustav Schroeder, George Ferdinand Duckwits risked their lives saving thousands of Jews, are they responsible for the crimes the Nazis did?
January 21st, 2012, 3:53 pm
defender said:
Revlon!
You daily live pleasure of bloodshed!Every day you have an order on more and more blood! It is clearly visible in your comments.
January 21st, 2012, 3:54 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
IRRITATED
The worse criminals are those who kill and torture for your opinions, your ideas, your political position.
If you are killed for being a jew or a gipsy or you are killed for being a muslim or a black in america in the past, then you have bad luck but no choice, you are what you are and you have no choice to change your skin or religious origins.
But when it comes to killing and tortures on intellectual crimes, it means that those who are killed are brave enough to stand on their ideas knowing they are going to be killed. And instead of changing or hiding they defend their ideals as it is happening in the young arab spring.
US (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) and Dictators, be Hitler (jews, gipsies and communists), Assad (intelectual oppositors) or Mao (rural populations) are the main world criminals in history. Dont fool yourself, Bashar has clearly become subject to be judged by crimes against humanity. This is a fact.
January 21st, 2012, 3:55 pm
Norman said:
Revlon,
This one is for you,
http://feb17.info/news/libyan-fighters-join-free-syrian-army-forces/
Ghufran,
The only way to put an end to this crises is for the Arab league and the world to give full support for the Syrian government to end the crises and restore safety and security, ask all people to stay off the street and in return increase the sanctions to push the government into reform rapidly,that should include multi party system and separation of powers, that is if they really want reform and to provide more freedom for the Syrian people.
January 21st, 2012, 3:59 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
مقتل 617 معتقلا تحت التعذيب بسوريا
617 prisoners killed under tortures in Syria
http://www.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/57B29495-00A5-4308-875E-7193B7897A71.htm?GoogleStatID=9
January 21st, 2012, 3:59 pm
Ghufran said:
تعليق مواطن في صفحات التواصل الاجتماعي
Ali Atassi
لبعض الإسلامين أقول: سكتنا في الماضي على محاولة تجيير ربيع دمشق لصالحكم. سكتنا على مفاوضاتكم السرية مع النظام. سكتنا على تحالفكم مع الفاسد عبد الحليم خدام. سكتنا على الهدنة التي أعلنتموها مع النظام واستمرت لأكثر من عام. سكتنا على مغازلتكم للبوطي حتى عشية الثورة. سكتنا ودافعنا، وسنظل ندافع عن حقكم الكامل وغير المنقوص في أن تكونوا جزء لا يتجزأ من الحياة السياسية السورية ومن سورية
المستقبل. لكننا لن نسكت بعد اليوم علي محاولة البعض منكم تطييف الثورة وأسلمها. فهي كانت وستظل وستنتصر كثورة مدنية ضد الاستبداد بكافة أشكاله
January 21st, 2012, 4:02 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
Dear regime supporters:
This is special for you.
January 21st, 2012, 4:06 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
I think what must be denounced today is not only the crimes and abuses comitted by the regime since 15th March, but every single political, economical, personal, sexual and physical abuse commited by this regime and its Baath Party from the very first day they got power. Do not forget every bribe paid, every bussiness licence denied without reason, every soldier who served for 2 or 3 years for not paying enough, every prison arrest without judgement, every torture, every killing covertup or not, every freedom violation, everything that happened day after day during 40 years and in every city and every prison and Justice Court of this country. There is not money enough in Syria to compensate the damage done to most syrians, in the case this violations could be calculated in monetary terms.
January 21st, 2012, 4:20 pm
defender said:
324
http://rutube.ru/tracks/4917084.html?confirm=fa591f8762a0e6d4d6badca85cb2a02b
January 21st, 2012, 4:34 pm
Norman said:
Haytham,
This one is for you , in response,
PrintBack to story
French Journalist Was Killed by Syrian Rebels, Le Figaro Says
By Gregory Viscusi – Jan 21, 2012
The rocket that killed French television journalist Gilles Jacquier Jan. 11 in Homs, Syria, was fired by anti-government rebels and not security forces, Le Figaro reported, citing interviews with rebel leaders.
Syrian army deserters have told Arab League observers they fired the rocket by mistake, thinking they were attacking soldiers loyal to President Bashar al-Assad, the French newspaper said.
Jacquier, who worked for television station France 2, was buried yesterday in his native village in the French Alps.
To contact the reporter on this story: Gregory Viscusi in Paris at gviscusi@bloomberg.net
To contact the editor responsible for this story: James Hertling at jhertling@bloomberg.net
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®2012 BLOOMBERG L.P. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
January 21st, 2012, 4:39 pm
Ghufran said:
The report of the AL will not please hardliners because it exposes lies broadcasted by fighting hawks who are destroying Syria in the name of saving Syria. This is why the AL mission was attacked by both sides. Moza of Qatar spent $ 2 million on a medical trip to the UK in 2011 but the budget of the AL mission is less than what it cost to beautify Moza’s behind.
If Arabs want to help,they need to send ten times as many observers and consider sending military personnel to separate fighting parties. Opposition to the AL mission is a reflection of fear: fear from the truth. The regime has a lot to hide,and the military arm of this uprising does not want the world to
know that there are thugs in Syria who kill in the name of peace. You may have noticed an increase in reports by foreign journalists who went to Syria and dared to distance themselves from the conventional wisdom dominating reports about the Arab spring,those reports are also attacked because they bring an inconvenient dish to the table,that dish is called the truth.
January 21st, 2012, 4:39 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
I think everything could be said, argued and exposed has been already said, argued and exposed. So, let´s give it up. SC is cleary showing tendency for the regime on its main entrances. Now it is time for reality to show us what will finally happen.
I cannot imagine Syria without Assad, but it´s difficult to imagine a Syria under Assad security state apparatus for some more years to come. And this is what will most probably happen since no international actor will directly attack the regime.
But it will be an unveiled Assad with all the repression exposed and international damage in them.
January 21st, 2012, 4:40 pm
defender said:
http://rickrozoff.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/brics-back-russia-hands-off-iran-and-syria/
BRICS Back Russia: Hands Off Iran And Syria
Russia warned the West against military intervention in Iran and Syria and rejected unilateral sanctions against the two nations.
Military action against Iran would have “catastrophic consequences,” Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Wednesday.
Mr. Lavrov told an annual press conference that Moscow is seriously concerned about the threat of a military operation against Iran and is “doing its best to prevent it.” He said the war would provoke an exodus of refugees from Iran to Azerbaijan and Russia, would pour fuel into the simmering Shia-Sunni conflict and trigger a chain reaction.
The press conference was devoted to Russia’s foreign policy in 2011, but Mr. Lavrov’s tough language suggested that Moscow was bracing up for hardnosed confrontation with the West in 2012.
Mr. Lavrov said the West’s unilateral sanctions against Iran, such as the proposed oil embargo, were “aimed at suffocating the Iranian economy” and “inciting popular discontent.”
He said Iran was ready for a resumption of talks with international mediators and hinted that Europe and the United States were imposing new sanctions at this juncture with the specific purpose of torpedoing further negotiations.
The Russian Foreign Minister said Moscow would block any Western attempts to obtain United Nations mandate for military interference in Syria. A draft resolution submitted by Russia states that all Security Council members refrain from interference and use of force in Syria. Mr. Lavrov said it was self-revealing that Western powers were trying hard to remove from the Russian draft the part stating that “nothing in the present resolution can be interpreted as allowing the use of force against Syria by any party.”
At the same time, China and the other members of the BRICS group have thrown their support behind the Russian draft, Mr. Lavrov said.
“We consider it absolutely unacceptable to seek to apply the so-called Libya scenario to other conflicts,” the Russian Foreign Minister said.
“For us, the red line is fairly clearly drawn. We will not support any sanctions,” he added.
Mr. Lavrov rejected Western criticism of Russian arms supplies to Syria.
“We haven’t violated any international agreements or the U.N. Security Council resolutions,” he said. “We are only trading with Syria in items, which aren’t banned by the international law.”
January 21st, 2012, 4:52 pm
Ghufran said:
Any comment?
Damascus, Syria (CNN) — Dissident groups have taken control of all districts in the Syrian city of Douma, a suburb of Damascus, according to the activist group Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
The Free Syrian Army, a resistance movement comprised of military defectors, clashed with government security forces in the city.
January 21st, 2012, 4:52 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
Dear NORMAN #327.
I am not surprised that the rocket fired by the rebels.
But, I was surprised that if you are a journalist and you want a visa, you should contact Mother Agnes. Do not you think this is scandalous?
What state is this? Mother Agnes became the foreign minister of Syria.
January 21st, 2012, 5:01 pm
ann said:
Arab League chief receives observer mission report – 2012-01-22
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/22/c_122615541.htm
CAIRO, Jan. 21 (Xinhua) — Arab League (AL) chief Nabil al- Arabi has received the report of the regional bloc’s observer mission to Syria, AL Deputy Secretary General Ahmed Ben Helli said on Saturday.
Helli said in a statement that the report had been distributed to Arab countries on Friday for discussions at a meeting of the Arab ministerial committee in charge of handling the Syrian crisis on Sunday morning.
The report would then be submitted to the AL council meeting of foreign ministers to be held later on Sunday, he said.
The report is a conclusion of the observers’ work from Dec. 14, 2011 to Jan. 18, and it will be available for all international organizations and parties concerned with the crisis developments in Syria, Helli said.
January 21st, 2012, 5:06 pm
defender said:
http://presstv.com/usdetail/222304.html
Jewish paper: Israel should assassinate Obama
An American Jewish newspaper has caused a massive stir by suggesting that Israel would benefit by having President Obama assassinated.
According to News Gather, Atlanta Jewish Times owner Andrew Adler has said “Give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place.”
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Paper Owner Apologizes for Obama ‘Hit’ Column
By wmw_admin on January 21, 2012
Nathan Guttman – Jewish Daily Forward January 20, 2012
The owner of an Atlanta Jewish newspaper has apologized for a column in which he discusses the possibility of Israel ordering the assassination of President Obama.
The Secret Service says it is investigating and a parade of Jewish leaders quickly moved to denounce Andrew Adler, publisher and owner of the Atlanta Jewish Times.
Adler wrote in a January 13 opinion piece that one of Israel’s options in confronting a threat from Iran would be to put out “a hit” on Obama. The story was first reported Friday by the website gawker.com and later picked up by ABC News and The Guardian, among other outlets.
“Did I go too far? Yes. Do I regret it? Yes,” Adler told the Forward on Friday. “I should have thought about it twice and three times.”
Offering up a series of options that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu might pursue, Adler wrote that one choice would be to, “Take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel.”
The publisher went on to forcefully reiterate his opinion: “Yes, you read … correctly. Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it.”
“You have got to believe, like I do, that all options are on the table,” he wrote.
The opinion piece does not appear on the web site of the paper, but is available here.
The option for Israel to assassinate Obama was the third in a series that Adler laid out as choices for Netanyahu to confront the threat posed by Iran. Adler denied that he was advocating that Israel consider ordering Obama’s assassination. He claimed he only wrote the piece to provoke readers.
“I don’t stand behind what I wrote and my intention was never to stand behind it. I just wanted to get a reaction from the local community, to see what they would do,” he told the Forward.
Adler said the reaction had been “very negative.” He vowed to write a column explaining himself, and insisted he has nothing against Obama.
“My view of the President is favorable,” Adler said.
The Secret Service, which investigates threats against the president, confirmed it is aware of the article.
“We are conducting appropriate investigative steps,” said Secret Service spokesperson George Ogilvie, withuot elaborating.
Adler, who is a member of the Chabad Movement and has been active in the Atlanta Jewish community for years, bought the paper 2-1/2 years ago. It has a circulation of between 3,000 and 4,000.
The Anti-Defamation League denounced the opinion piece as “outrageous and beyond the pale.”
“There is absolutely no excuse, no justification, no rationalization for this kind of rhetoric,” said ADL National Director Abraham Foxman. “These are irresponsible and extremist words. It is outrageous and beyond the pale. An apology cannot possibly repair the damage.”
The National Jewish Democratic Council blasted Adler’s column, calling in the “height of irresponsibility.”
“To dare to give such despicable ideas space in a newspaper … is beyond the pale,” said NJDC President David A. Harris in a statement.
The Jewish Federation of Atlanta contacted Adler shortly after the article was published and urged him to retract the piece.
“We don’t agree with his sentiment,” Atlanta Federation marketing director Tali Benjamin said. She stressed that the Atlanta Jewish Times is a private and independent newspaper that does not receive support from the federation.
It’s hard to tell whether or not Adler is just some crank. But the Atlanta Jewish Times, which he purchased in 2009, appears to be a real community newspaper. It was founded in 1925 and, according to Wikipedia, claims a circulation of 3,500 and staff of five. To judge from its web site, it’s a going concern. gawker.com
In the midst of the 2012 election cycle, GOP hopefuls such as Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney have attacked the president on his handling of threats from unfriendly nations. According to The Hill, some GOP candidates feel that the president is being too hard on Israel and not tough enough on its enemies. Huffington Post
“This president appears more generous to our enemies than he is to our friends,” Romney said at the Republican Jewish Coalition forum in December. Huffington Post
FACTS & FIGURES
U.S. policy towards Israel at the moment is to basically do anything they want regardless of whether it benefits the United States or not thanks to a bizarre combination of born-again Christian fundamentalists and a massive Zionist lobby in Washington. News Gather
President Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have had a tense relationship at times, including public disputes over settlement activity in the West Bank. Republicans have also criticized Obama for suggesting that the 1967 borders be the starting point of Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations. The Hill
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) has a dangerous stranglehold over U.S. foreign policy towards the Middle East. Moveoveraipac.org
AIPAC lobbyists with their Christian Zionist allies guarantee billions of dollars in military aid for Israel each year. AlterNet
AIPAC has also lobbied heavily for U.S. funding of various Israeli weapons programs, including Israel’s Arrow missile defense system. Rightweb.irc-online.org
January 21st, 2012, 5:08 pm
ann said:
Syrian agricultural sector losses 8 mln USD due to terrorist attacks – 2012-01-21
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/21/c_131372396.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 21 (Xinhua) — The value of damage caused by terrorist attacks against the agricultural sector in Syria has been estimated at 450 million Syrian pounds (about 7.8 million U.S. dollars), a Syrian newspaper said Saturday.
Al-Thawra newspaper quoted agricultural ministry official Omar Hajo as saying that 103 vehicles and 25 establishments have been destroyed by terrorist groups during the past 10 months, six people working in the agricultural field have been killed and five others were kidnapped.
Engineer Ramadan al-Mohammad at the ministry told the paper that the damage was estimated at 450 million Syrian pounds.
Terrorist acts have also targeted other sectors of the Syrian economy.
Syrian Oil Minister Sufian Allaw said Thursday that terrorist acts carried out by armed groups against oil pipelines and other oil institutions, in addition to sanctions imposed by the European Union on Syrian oil industry, have caused a damage of about 2.1 billion Syrian pounds (about 36.5 million U.S. dollars).
In addition, 21 people in the oil sector were killed, 24 others were wounded, and five others were kidnapped during the past 10 months.
On Wednesday, Minister of Electricity Imad Khamis said at a press conference that the recent attacks carried out by armed terrorist groups have inflicted a big damage on the distribution network and maintenance workshops.
The minister said the direct material damage inflicted upon the network was valued at nearly 713 million Syrian pounds (about 12.4 million dollars), while the value of indirect economic damage reached around 23 billion Syrian pounds (about 400 million dollars) .
He also said that some power generating stations were undermined or operating with partial capacity due to terrorist attacks at gas pipelines and railways that ferry fuel to these stations.
At least five pipelines have been targeted since the eruption of unrest in Syria in mid March, 2011. The Syrian government held what it called “saboteurs” responsible for the attacks.
January 21st, 2012, 5:15 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Sandro said
He can not imagine Syria without Assad.
I do ,Gaddafi was ousted, and Assad the booha will be ousted.
Those who oppose the FSA are co criminal, they lie, they fabricate stories they are strong supporters of the regime,
January 21st, 2012, 5:33 pm
jad said:
Haytham
Thank you very much for bringing the documentary here, I’m not sure why you start your comment with (Dear regime supporter), this report is actually to all who are looking for truth, regardless who they support.
Couple notes about this excellent report, all signs are pointing more towards the armed militia in Bab Alsba3, regardless that the report is asking very legit questions about their security man, their driver and the coincidences, all those question are very circumstantial and in a try to point out the crime on the regime, however, it doesn’t.
Many told them not to go because it’s too late, the driver was scared to death of going, the security guy was doing what he was asked to do, stay next to the cars, the journalist after the first attack went in too many directions and didn’t stick together, the Syrians as we both know are ‘curious’ and want to convince you with their views in any way possible, hence they were trying to prove their points that they are targeted by terrorists that the media denies all the time, so the incident triggered the locals emotions to just do that. Besides, for them to be surprised that people are not afraid of gun shots anymore is stupid, for Homsis living under consistent shelling for the last 7-8 months will make anybody loose the fear the french are arguing against.
Now I’m almost sure that Le Figaro conclusion that the attack was a random terrorist incident by the armed militia is the correct version of this bloody incident and it was caught online which makes it more influential.
What surprised me in the report is when they introduce our Sunni Moufty Hassoun, a SEMI ALWITE, how ignorant is that?!
Thank you again Haytham.
January 21st, 2012, 5:46 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
كتيبة الاباليس
January 21st, 2012, 5:49 pm
ann said:
Syria seizes Lebanese boat, family says man killed – Sat Jan 21, 2012
Syrian forces killed a Lebanese fisherman and wounded another when they seized a boat suspected of smuggling off the Lebanese-Syrian coast on Saturday, a relative said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/21/us-lebanon-syria-boat-idUSTRE80K0EY20120121
Syria’s state news agency SANA said the sailors were smugglers and that Syria’s naval patrol tried to stop the boat but was fired on by other nearby Lebanese vessels. It said two of the men on the seized boat were wounded by friendly fire.
The border areas between Lebanon and Syria are known for smuggling, and Syrian security services have become especially sensitive to contraband runs since a revolt against President Bashar al-Assad erupted 10 months ago.
Syria complains that its neighbors are not clamping down on smuggling of weapons they say are destined for insurgents.
Residents in Lebanon’s northern coastal town of Arida said they heard gunfire offshore but did not see who was shooting. They said they later saw a Syrian boat towing the Lebanese fishing boat toward the nearby Syrian port of Tartous.
Syrian authorities did not report any deaths to SANA but the agency said two wounded sailors were in hospital. It said a third man had been “turned in to concerned authorities.”
“The port patrol warned the infiltrating boat to stop more than once but the crew did not obey orders and instead threw their cargo overboard and tried to escape toward northern Lebanon,” SANA said.
Lebanese security sources confirmed the seizure of the boat but declined to give details of any casualties.
Ahmed Hamad told Reuters his wife had crossed into Syria and had found their 16-year-old son Maher Hamad dead in a Syrian state hospital. He said a second fisherman had been wounded and the third was being interrogated by Syrian security forces.
Dozens of angry residents and relatives of the fishermen tried to block the Arida border crossing, where they attacked a Syrian truck, smashing its windows, and burned tires.
Security forces prevented the crowd from entering Syria, witnesses said.
January 21st, 2012, 5:49 pm
Aldendeshe said:
336. majedkhaldoun said:
Sandro said
He can not imagine Syria without Assad.
I can never imagine Syria with Assad. I can never imagine any sane person can magine Syria and the Middle East with Assad anymore.
January 21st, 2012, 5:52 pm
ann said:
AL Observers Visit al-Zabadani, Madaya Accompanied by Pressmen, al-Dabi’s Report Handed in to al-Arabi – Jan 22, 2012
http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2012/01/22/395746.htm
DAMASCUS COUNTRYSIDE/ CAIRO, (SANA)_ A team of Arab League Observer mission on Saturday visited the Damascus Suburbs of al-Zabadani and Madaya and was briefed by the competent authorities on the situation there.
The observers team, along with a number of Arab and foreign pressmen, toured neighborhoods there and listened to citizens as they reviewed the general situation in the region as a whole.
January 21st, 2012, 5:56 pm
jad said:
Ghufran,
I’m not sure how correct the news of Douma is, but I’m convince that the militias plan now is to get Damascus first thing instead of any other city in Syria, it’s the opposite of what the Nato plan was in Libya by leaving Tripoli to the end, they learned the lesson and now they are trying it out in Syria.
These tactics are defiantly NOT SYRIAN, it’s an obvious Nato directions and all the news we read about European and American officers training the armed militias are true.
At the same time the regime seems to knows that already, and it concentrate all its defenses in the ‘urban’ areas instead of spreading them in the ‘rural’ area, this is why we are seeing the armed militia are let free there in the suburbs and the rural regions with less or little intervention yet the vicious and more bloody attacks are happening when the armed militias get too closer to any city centre in Syria.
For me this kind of defensive mechanism is more planned and intended this way than the propaganda we are reading, so even if the armed militia get Douma as claimed or any rural area inside Syria which is not connected to any of the border countries or to any city centre, the reaction from the military will be minimal, I’m not sure about the viability of this strategy in the long term.
January 21st, 2012, 6:05 pm
Norman said:
Haytham,
sorry, but your French U Tube video went over my head, i do not know French. i thought they were trying to blame the government for his death as they did before.
January 21st, 2012, 6:08 pm
jad said:
SNK
That was horrible.
January 21st, 2012, 6:10 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
According to my direct sources Zabadani is 99 % with FSA and ready for fighting till the end. They say there are no informers (mukhbir and moukhabarat) in Zabadani and Madaya anymore. Many were killed, the rest fled. I think this area shows us cleary the situation in Syria. The regime can control the places (Aleppo and Damascus) where their network of informers is well established and intact, specially where informers sometimes outnumber normal people, while in places where they used to be non residents or not originals from the region they have lost control.
January 21st, 2012, 6:14 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Five areas where the FSA has fought and won
Idleb, Douma,Zabadani,Homs and Deir Z ZORE, fsa is able to defend the people, and defeat shabbiha
GOD BLESS FSA
January 21st, 2012, 6:16 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Aside from who is terrorist and who is not one thing is clear. This regime is based on informers and repression. Is this the only way syrian people can be dealt? Is this the only way of keeping syrians altogether? I don´t think so. Isn´t there a more civilized why of living? I think Jordan has given a lesson to the syrian dictator of how a poor over populated country can be more civilized, educated, developed and pseudodemocratic. From the begining of protests in Jordan I only heard once that police shooted at demonstrators. These policemen were jailed inmediately.
January 21st, 2012, 6:22 pm
jad said:
(99%! why not 100%) Any-who, there are many people in Zabadani are unhappy and afraid, they told the AL Observers today that they’ve been forced to demonstrate ad been attacked by armed militias from the region and even from Libya and Egypt:
شآم
إن ما جرى اليوم في منطقة الزبداني كان ملخصه كالآتي :
في تمام الساعة 10.45 دقيقة وصلت اللجنة إلى منطقة الزبداني و قبل الوصول إلى معمل مياه بقين ( طلعة الجرجانية ) شاهد أعضاء بعض المسلحين المختبئين حول المزارع و على سطح بناء يكون في أسفله محل لغيار الزيت وعند دخول اللجنة إلى الزبداني توجهوا إلى ساحة المحطة والتقوا ببعض الأهالي التي قالت كالتالي :
إن المجموعات الارهابية والمكونة من بعض أهل المنطقة وسرغايا وكفير الزيت وليبين ومصريين أجبرتنا عدة مرات للخروج إلى المظاهرات تحت تهديد السلاح وكان آخرها يوم قدوم الوفد الآخر في المرة الماضية وقال لهم أحد الأهالي من عائلة برهان لقد قاموا بالإعتداء على بيتي وسرقة مبلغ 120 ألف ليرة كنت قد أحضرتها من محصول التفاح وأخذهم إلى منزله ليشاهدوا آثار الإعتداء وسماع أولاده الذين لم تتجاوز أعمارهم ال6 سنوات واطلعوا على الأضرار التي لحقت بمبنى الناحية والمخفر ومن ثم توجهوا إلى داخل المنطقة ليجدوا مظاهرة في ساحة داخل المدينة تعتلي أسطحها مجموعات مسلحة وقد قامت اللجنة بتصوير كل ذلك ليقوموا بتوثيقه وتسلمت عدة عرائض من الأهالي مستنكرةً ما يجري ، ومن بينها أدلة دامغة على تورط المدعويين :
الشيخ فراس شرف الدين برهان الذي يتقاضى مبالغ طائلة من شيخ الفتنة العرعور وكان آخرها 6 ملايين ليرة دفعت للمدعو لإشادة منزل له .
* المهندس عبد المجيد علاء الدين وشقيقه المهندس حسن علاء الدين والذين يتقاضون مبالغ من منظمة الاخوان المجرمون لتأمين أماكن إقامة لليبين والمصريين الارهابيين القادمون عبر الحدود الجبلية للمنطقة وتأمين ممرات آمنة لهم ولسلاحهم .
والأدلة كانت عبارة عن جلسات مصورة للمذكورين وهم يقومون بفعل ذلك ومكالمات هاتفية مسجلة قام بها بعض الأسود الذين فاجئوا الجميع بتلك المعلومات وتم نقلهم إلى دمشق حفاظاً على حياتهم .
ومن هنا يمكننا أن نقول بأنه توفرت معلومات قوية ذكرنا بعضاً منها تمهيداً لدخول قواتنا المسلحة إلى المنطقة قريباً .
January 21st, 2012, 6:55 pm
zoo said:
Ann #343
Thanks
ref: Zabadani
Hopefully, we will soon read independent reports from the journalists accompanying the AL observers.
January 21st, 2012, 6:56 pm
irritated said:
MajedAlkhaldoon
Could you tell us the population of these areas that the FSA says they controls.
“Idleb, Douma,Zabadani,Homs and Deir Z ZORE”
January 21st, 2012, 7:03 pm
zoo said:
A new generation of political Islamists steps forward
By Olivier Roy, Published: January 20
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/muslim-brotherhood-other-islamists-have-changed-their-worldview/2012/01/10/gIQAZgjoEQ_story.html
Olivier Roy is a professor at the European University Institute in Florence and the author of “Holy Ignorance.”
Everywhere, the Muslim Brotherhood is benefiting from a democratization it did not trigger. There is a political vacuum because the liberal vanguard that initiated the Arab Spring did not try, and did not want, to take power. This was a revolution without revolutionaries. Yet the Muslim Brothers are the only organized political force. They are rooted in society, and decades of opposition against authoritarian regimes gave them experience, legitimacy and respect. Their conservative agenda fits a conservative society, which may welcome democracy but did not turn liberal.
Under these circumstances, the ghost of a totalitarian Islamic state is raised, with the specter of imposing sharia and closing the short democratic parenthesis. But such an outcome is unlikely.
The Islamists have, in fact, changed: They are more middle-class “bourgeois,” and they benefited from the liberalization of local economies during the last decades of the 20th century, especially in countries with no oil rent. The Islamists have also drawn lessons from the failure of ideological regimes and from the success of Turkey’s AKP party. They are no longer advocating jihad and understand geostrategic constraints, such as the need to maintain peace, even a cold one, with Israel. Realism is the starting point of political wisdom.
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January 21st, 2012, 7:11 pm
Juergen said:
Irritated/Defender
I am not to teach any lessons to anyone. I never even cared for any blog or worked for an NGO. I never joined any party or any organization as i want to stay independant in my thinking and my decisions. I write and try to give just my point of view. Since 2005 i travel to Syria, stayed there at least 2-3 times a year, i do see and consider this Syria my second home.
When i make comparisons to the german history i do that because that is what is most near to me, what has influenced me most in my being a citizen of this country. No one can choose where he is born, and i believe that being German involves to be informed about what this country was build upon, how ugly and how painful the process was to be what we are now. All of my fathers family were repatriated germans from german occupied land in Poland and Hungaria. My grandmother fe was fleeing her hometown when she was 17, she had to leave her familyhouse with just a handful of memorablia and they were lucky to survive the ordeal of this 2 months escape from the russian forces. I had long conversations with my grandparents, and we all do have similar experiences with this older generations. I asked them how could they have lived and supported this murderous regime, and answers were always painful. My grandmother told me about how many good memories she had about the Nazi movement, girl scout camps, the solidarity they shared ect. I still dont know how she claimed not to know what happend to her jewish classmates. For me nationalism is a drug, and with the right person a whole nation will forget about humanity and liberal rights, which i claim are also part of german heritage as Beethovens ode to the joy will portray. I believe in such times of dictatorship its a matter of owns character, many will do what is being told to them, go the least mile to survive. Others who dare to know more, who dare to question what is unquestionable to many, those are always an minority. Until now we still have the victims and the criminals of that time alive, they all can tell their story, their part of their truth. There is never just an black and white picture, there is alot of grey. For example i am totally against the herofication of the 20th July assensins who tried to kill Hitler in 1944. They have almost succeeded. But those ordained to this bravery were soldiers, high ranking officers who were proper Nazis from 1933-1944, just as they saw no end of this slaughterregime, they thought its time to end it. If they would have succeeded app 3 mio people would have been saved, but their aim was surely not to establish the democracy which Germans had until 1933. Many of us Germans are traumatized by the events which took place in my country and many until now are les nationalistic, we kind of had an overdose. I can not understand how someone can cary a flag of their country on the street,nor have i ever sang my national anthem wholeheartly, but as a liberal i dont detest those who enjoy being nationalistic, this may be just our heritage which we have to burden. Hannah Arendt is worthwile reading, she spoke about the totalitarian part of any regime, the banalism of evil which can come as an Austrian homeless young man who wanted to be an painter, or as an ophthalmologist who just wanted to be a doctor but has to run the family business.
January 21st, 2012, 7:23 pm
Juergen said:
i have no words for this ordeal this poor man is going through. What kind of mentality must you have to torture this family man who is supposed to have 7 children, i guess its the same sick mentality that brings up children torture as well.
January 21st, 2012, 7:34 pm
Juergen said:
Berlin 21.01.2012
demonstration in support of the civilians in Syria
January 21st, 2012, 7:43 pm
irritated said:
#352 Juergen
That is a courageous statement. Thanks for the honesty.
None of us wants evil for Syria, but evil sometimes disguises itself as the liberator from a lesser evil. That’s is the suspicion of many who reject an opposition who looks increasingly more malevolent, violent and ill-intentioned than the regime they want to displace.
If I had the conviction that what comes after the fall of this regime is worth it, I would adhere to the course of changes, but until now I am increasingly convinced of the opposite. I guess many Syrians have come to the same conclusion. They see the regime ready to move to another step and they prefer to give it a chance rather than put the destiny of their country into the hands of a chaotic, undisciplined, polluted, tainted , divided and dubious opposition.
January 21st, 2012, 7:44 pm
ann said:
‘PKK Using Israeli Drones to Attack Turkish Troops’ – 20 January 2012
Kenan Yıldızbakan – a PKK member who led an assault against a Turkish naval base in Hatay in 2010 – has visited Israel on numerous occasions, further raising suspicions of his organization’s ties to the Jewish state.
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/130286/%C3%ABpkk-using-israeli-drones-to-attack-turkish-troops-39-.html
Kurdish militants have access to intel gained from UAVs to set up bases in northern Syria, Turkish daily reports.
Israeli unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) are being used in southern Turkey to assist the Kurdistan Worker’s Party, a Turkish newspaper reported Tuesday.
The party, known by its acronym PKK, has a long history of violence in pursuit of Kurdish- self rule and is considered a terrorist organization by the United States and European Union.
Today’s Zaman newspaper reported that two months ago, Turkish intelligence had detected two Israeli Heron UAVs operating in the southern Turkish provinces of Hatay and Adana. The UAVs were reportedly collecting data on Turkish military units, then using the intelligence to set up PKK bases in northern Syria for confronting Turkish troops.
The report also claims that Kenan Yıldızbakan – a PKK member who led an assault against a Turkish naval base in Hatay in 2010 – has visited Israel on numerous occasions, further raising suspicions of his organization’s ties to the Jewish state.
Today’s Zaman is the English version of the Turkish paper Zaman, a mass-circulation daily linked to the Gulenist movement – an influential Islamist organization led by a Turkish religious scholar living in exile in the United States. Its coverage is broadly favorable to the ruling Justice and Development Party, or AKP.
January 21st, 2012, 8:20 pm
ann said:
US Jewish Publisher Regrets Obama Hit Scenario – 21 January 2012
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/130352/us-jewish-publisher-regrets-obama-hit-scenario.html
A Jewish newspaper publisher in the US apologized on Friday for suggesting in a column published last week that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu consider deploying Mossad agents to assassinate US President Barack Obama.
Atlanta Jewish News owner and publisher Andrew Adler suggested that Netanyahu deploy Mossad agents to “take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel” in the case that Iran got a nuclear weapon.
In his column he listed three options for Israel to counter Iran’s nuclear weapons. The first was to launch a pre-emptive strike against Hezbollah and Hamas and the second was to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities. The third, according to Adler, was to “give the go-ahead for US-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.”
“Yes, you read ‘three’ correctly,” the publisher continued. “Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If have thought of this Tom-Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?”
In an interview with JTA Friday, Adler expressed contrition for his column.
“I very much regret it, I wish I hadn’t made reference to it at all,” Adler said of a presidential assassination.
He also told the Internet site Gawker, which first reported on his column, that he had published his piece to see what kind of reaction he’d get from readers but that he in no way endorsed such action or thought Israel was considering it.
According to JTA, the many calls and emails he received were overwhelmingly negative.
January 21st, 2012, 8:24 pm
ann said:
Libyan Islamists Rally to Demand Sharia-Based Law – 21 January 2012
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/130351/libyan-islamists-rally-to-demand-sharia-based-law.html
Assembled by Islamist political and religious groups, mostly young and bearded men holding up copies of the Koran demonstrated in squares in the capital Tripoli, the eastern city of Benghazi and in Sabha in the southern desert.
The Islamist demonstrators encompassed members of the conservative Muslim Brotherhood and harder-line Salafis, who both back strict versions of Islam, and relative moderates who prefer a civil state simply inspired by sharia.
January 21st, 2012, 8:29 pm
Tara said:
Juergen
Not too long ago, as I was watching the last minute of Quaddafi’s life, I thought that I would never want similar fate to anyone. I am now changed. Watching the clip Juergen posted in 353 and many many other, I wonder if Syrians would be able to forgive. Justice must be served before any attempt of reconciliation takes place in Syria. Bashar and all the head murderers must face a fate not less atrocious than Quaddafi’s once. Everyone who committed murder or torture must be prosecuted and punished. Justice can not be served otherwise.
January 21st, 2012, 8:37 pm
ann said:
Italy to help Libya protect borders, oil-Libya PM – Sat Jan 21, 2012
http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFL6E8CL07M20120121
Italy will help Libyan authorities protect the North African country’s borders and oil facilities, Libyan Prime Minister Abdurrahim al-Keib said on Saturday.
January 21st, 2012, 8:39 pm
ann said:
German Left Party under fire for supporting Iran and Syria – 01/22/2012
The Left Party politicians signed an anti-Israel and anti-US petition in support of the governments of Syria and Iran.
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=254597
BERLIN – Bundestag deputies from mainstream political parties on Thursday accused the Left Party of aligning itself with the Islamic Republic and Syria.
A group of Left Party deputies called early this month for all sanctions applied against Iran and Syria to be lifted.
The Left Party politicians signed an anti-Israel and anti-US petition in support of the governments of Syria and Iran. According to the online petition, “the USA together with other NATO states and Israel is keeping both countries in a state of permanent alert so as to wear them down.”
Annette Groth, a Left Party deputy who signed the petition, was aboard the Turkish vessel Mavi Marmara in 2010 during its attempt to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip. Left deputies Eva Bulling-Schröter, Sevim Dagdelen, Diether Dehm, Heike Hänsel and Ulla Jelpke also signed the document.
Politicians from the party have compared Israel to Nazi Germany and stoked hatred of the Jewish state at pro- Palestinian events across the Federal Republic over the years. Jelpke has defended anti-Zionism as a respectable political position.
According to the pro-Syrian and pro-Iranian petition’s website, 2,470 people have signed the call to remove sanctions against Tehran and Damascus.
The German media reported last week that Christian Democrat deputy Andreas Schockenhoff slammed the six Left Party deputies for agreeing with the orders to shoot at protesters in Syria and joining forces with dictators. Social Democratic deputy Günter Gloser said the Left Party ignores the facts that Syrian President Assad initiated the attacks on his people.
Free Democratic Party deputy Birgit Homburger termed the behavior of the Left Party politicians to be shameful.
Markus Löning, the human rights commissioner for the German government, told the Süddeutsche Zeitung paper in January that “members of the Left Party have placed themselves on the side of the murderer Assad.”
Löning , who is from the Free Democrats, called on the leaders of the Left Party to distance themselves from the six deputies.
Alexander Fischer, a spokesman for the Left Party, called the Springer media company’s criticism that “Left politicians support solidarity with dictator Assad to be defamation.”
He added, No Leftist is any way shows solidarity with a president who shoots at his own people.”
The BAK Shalom Working Group, a small group of pro-Israel activists within the Left Party’s young members federation, criticized the six deputies on its website. “Against Left Solidarity with the butchers from Syria and Iran!,” BAK wrote.
BAK Shalom rejected the appeal of the petition and said “it is not NATO, the USA or Israel that is creating a civil war in Syria, rather the Syrian and Iranian regimes.”
The pro-Israel leftist group wrote, “We, the members of BAK Shalom, look forward to every sleepless night from Assad and Ali Khamenei and his henchmen in Iran. We hope that the Iranian regime collapses as fast as possible.”
January 21st, 2012, 8:49 pm
ann said:
*** A FABRICATED END TO A FABRICATED STORY 😀 ***
Syria rebels retreat after seizing area near capital – 01/22/2012
Fighters seize parts of the town of Douma near the capital Damascus for the first time, then withdraw.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=254604
BEIRUT – Syrian rebels seized parts of the town of Douma near the capital Damascus on Saturday and then withdrew to their hideouts, activists said.
Night-time gunbattles and explosions rocked Douma, 14 kilometres (9 miles) northwest of the capital, activists said. Douma has been a center of protests in the 10-month revolt against President Bashar Assad.
The head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the fighters retreated to their hideouts once they had pushed state forces outside of Douma.
“It seems they chose not to hold on to the territory, most likely because it could offer the regime an excuse to storm the area,” Rami Abdelrahman told Reuters.
The fighting posed no direct threat to Damascus itself but may be seen as too close for comfort to the government, which has launched a heavy crackdown since unrest began in March.
One resident told Reuters the move marked the first time rebels, who call themselves the Free Syrian Army, held territory in Douma for an extended period of time.
“No one can get in or out of Douma right now. This is the first time the rebels do anything more than hit-and-run attacks. Tonight they started making barriers in the streets,” an activist living in Douma told Reuters by Skype.
The fighting began on Saturday afternoon, after security forces killed four people when they fired on a funeral march for a slain protester. Ensuing clashes left dozens wounded, activists said.
Activists on Skype from Douma and the neighboring town of Harasta said troops were gathered outside the rebellious suburb.
Another resident in Douma told Reuters she had not heard of the temporary takeover of the suburb but had heard a large explosion.
“One of the explosions was so loud it felt like the whole city shook,” another activist told Reuters on Skype.
January 21st, 2012, 8:56 pm
Juergen said:
Tara
i dont know what kind of drug power is to some folks, obviously it seems that its a very tempting one, and obviously those in power cant think of an life without it. I think everyone can decide forthemselves at some point if to pursue and go on or to stop supporting what in our world is considered inhumane. I think that many dictators live in a cloud of disinformation, all day long they hear how good they are and how beneficial is their rule. I think Syria needs more than reconcilation, I aggree that Den Haag is the wrong place to put the regime on trial. This regime never acknowledged the international community, so they should face the prison cells an the judical system so many Syrians faced. Syria will also need brave and couragous religious leaders who need to summon their sheeps like Desmond Tutu did in South Africa.
But those days seem far away when you see such images where the allmighty torturer is playing God. There is a great cartoon of Ali Ferzat showing the torturer doing his work and cry over sitcoms. I think many of those will enjoy the family life after their cruel work is done.
January 21st, 2012, 8:59 pm
Ghufran said:
هوت قيمة الدولار الأميركي أمس السبت إلى ما يقارب 66 ليرة لكل دولار أميركي إثر قرار رئاسة مجلس الوزراء الذي صدر بعد ظهر الخميس بالتعويم الموجه للعملة الأميركية. وسجل الدولار الأميركي صباح الخميس مستويات قياسية إذ بلغت قيمته 75 ليرة سورية في السوق السوداء ما استدعى اجتماعات عاجلة في مجلس الوزراء صدر عنها قرار التعويم إضافة إلى تصريحات حاكم مصرف سورية المركزي بنية المصرف التدخل بقوة اعتباراً من اليوم الأحد في الأسواق قاطعاً الطريق أمام المضاربين الذين لا يتجاوز عددهم أصابع اليد الواحدة فهوى سعر صرف الدولار مسجلاً أمس 66 ليرة في دمشق و65 في حلب مع توقعات بأن يستمر في الهبوط حتى يصل لحدود 62 خلال الساعات المقبلة وأقل من 60 قبل نهاية الأسبوع الحالي حسب مراقبين.
This rosy assessment does not hide the fact that the Lira lost more than 30% of its value.
I have serious doubts that the sanctions imposed on Syria will magically disappear if Bashar resigns or forced out.
January 21st, 2012, 9:18 pm
Tara said:
I gave up on the AL. I think they are going to extend the monitors mission one more month. This will buy Bashar one more month to kill and to torture. Bashar is able to kill Syrians but is not be able to kill the revolution. Unfortunately, the AL represents the dictatorial Arab regimes and not the Arab street. Had it been up to the Arab street, the AL would’ve condemned Bashar the criminal long ago.
January 21st, 2012, 9:22 pm
irritated said:
Tara #367
“AL represents the dictatorial Arab regimes”
You mean Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Jordan, Lebanon, Mauritania?
Or maybe you meant Qatar whose leader you had such admiration only 2 weeks ago.
I guess you prefer the “innocent and democratic” USA, France and Britain, thousand kms away to make the decision for the Arab region and make another success story like Iraq or Afghanistan and Libya.
Well, it seems it is now happening, try next month.
January 21st, 2012, 10:29 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Shalom habarim, Shalom Melehem..
January 21st, 2012, 10:32 pm
irritated said:
#366 Ghufran
“I have serious doubts that the sanctions imposed on Syria will magically disappear if Bashar resigns or forced out.”
The sanctions will be removed only when there will be a government in Syria that will break the relation with Iran, abandon Hezbollah, sign a peace treaty with Israel and allow US bases on its territory.
Now we talk business…
January 21st, 2012, 10:34 pm
Aldendeshe said:
LOL & LOL…I have nothing else to say. Just sit and wait, sit and wait baby… Landis, Alex, any otehr website boss, why, why on earth, we can not use Arabic user name next to English? Why are you blocking the comments? It has been more than a month, I understand that you peaople don’t care much about me or SNP. But what is it that I can not use the Arabic text in conjection of English for user name?
January 21st, 2012, 10:36 pm
zoo said:
Contradicting the foreign news, the LCC admits: The FSA does not control Douma.
Jan 2012, 22:19 GMT+3 – Syria
Rafif Jouejati, a spokeswoman for the Local Co-ordination Committees, tells Al Jazeera reports that the Free SYrian Army is in control of Douma are false. She says there’s been an explosion there, which appeared to have targeted a riot police vehicle.
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/liveblog/syria-jan-22-2012-0119
January 21st, 2012, 10:42 pm
zoo said:
Iran accuses the FSA of the abduction of the Iranian engineers
Iran’s Mapna blames Syrian Opposition for Abduction of Iranian Engineers
(Dp-news)
http://www.dp-news.com/en/detail.aspx?articleid=109171
TEHRAN- Manager of the Syrian branch of Iran’s Mapna Engineering Co. Morteza Ganjizadeh took Free Syrian Army responsible for the recent abduction of the Iranian engineers.
The contractor of Jandar Electrical Power Plant in Syria, where a group of Iranian engineers were working before they were abducted last month, said that the Iranian nationals have been abducted by the Free Syrian Army.
Speaking to Iranian Fares News Agency (FNA) in Damascus, Ganjizadeh said that Al Farouq brigades affiliated to the Free Syrian Army has been the main group behind abduction plots since the beginning of the crisis.
He pointed to a photo published in a French magazine which shows a defected Syrian soldier behind four of the seven abducted engineers, and said the photo proves that the FSA has kidnapped the engineers.
A look at this picture and a passport photo which had been taken a day before their abduction reveals that the picture released by the French magazine is authentic and has been taken just a bit after their abduction.
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January 21st, 2012, 11:08 pm
Ghufran said:
قامت الحكومة، وبشكل مفاجئ، برفع سعر اسطوانة الغاز إلى 400 ل.س.، بزيادة 60% عن السعر القديم والمحدد بـ 250 ليرة سورية.
قال معاون مدير التجارة الداخلية بريف دمشق علي الخطيب ان قرارا صدر برفع سعر اسطوانة الغاز الى 400 ليرة”, دون ايراد مزايد من التفاصيل.
بدوره, بين مصدر مسؤول في مديرية الاقتصاد والتجارة الداخلية بحلب لسيريانيوز أن “القرار كان مفاجئاً بالنسبة للمعنيين، حيث أنه لم يتم تداول ما يخص زيادة سعر اسطوانة الغاز من قبل الوزارة والمديريات التابعة لها قط”.
وأردف المصدر “ترافق القرار بنوع من التخبط في الوزارة، حيث قامت مديرية حماية المستهلك، وعلى لسان مديرها بنفي الخبر، على إحدى المحطات الإذاعية الخاصة، ليعود ويؤكد على صدور القرار لاحقاً”.
This exceeds the daily wages of many Syrians.
January 21st, 2012, 11:35 pm
Ghufran said:
This is from alarabiya which claims to serve more than 300 million potential viewers.
One has to ask how sleezy and dirty the Goats Emirates media can get. Syrians are surrounded by two types of media garbage,the gulf’s and their own government’s.
كشف المراقب الجزائري المنسحب من بعثة مراقبي الجامعة العربية إلى سوريا، أنور مالك، أن المخابرات السورية زرعت كاميرات خاصة لتصوير المراقبين العرب داخل حماماتهم الخاصة لابتزازهم بالصور، كما أرسلت نساء إلى غرف المراقبين للإيقاع بهم وتصويرهم في أوضاع مخلة. وقال إنه على ثقة أن بعض المراقبين تورطوا في أخطاء. وجاء ذلك في حديث المراقب المنسحب لبرنامج “بانوراما” على شاشة “العربية” اليوم السبت.
January 21st, 2012, 11:45 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
AlQuds said
المعارضة السورية سهير الاتاسي غادرت سوريا
2012-01-21
She will support SNC,Kamal Labwani also support SNC
CB has no support,
January 21st, 2012, 11:58 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
I think the AL has no choice but to extend the presence of observers in Syria, however, their number has to increase,and they must be trained well, I think Dabi may quit himself,as he will face a lot of criticism sunday,
The vehicle that had prisoners ,was carrying already dead prisoners who died few days ago, and the bomb that exploded was planted inside the truck, it was not hit by the FSA.
Ghufran I checked today and was told that the dollar is 73 syrian pound, could you please tell us where was your source.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:16 am
Revlon said:
321. Normansaid:
((Revlon, This one is for you,
http://feb17.info/news/libyan-fighters-join-free-syrian-army-forces/Posted on November 29, 2011 by main
Libyan sources conveyed in recent days that 600 rebel fighters have already gone from Libya to Syria in order to support the Syrian opposition. The sources explained that the announcement of Libyan interim leader Mustafa Abdul Jalil regarding his country’s willingness to provide support for the rebels in Syria, has actually opened the door to volunteers. The source pointed out that there is coordination between the Libyan interim government and the Syrian opposition.
The source added that the Libyan rebels entered Syria through Turkey, to join “the free Syrian army” in order to counter the pro-Bashar al-Assad forces, asserting that the door is still open to more volunteers in Libya in case they wish to fight.))
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Thank you for the link.
The post is old and was discussed earlier.
Her is my take:
– The source of the news is “Scources”, anonymous.
– FSA has denied the presence of any foreign fighters in its ranks.
– The regime has failed to produce a single evidence for existance of foreign fighters with the revolution in Syria; save for the fake videos played by Al Mu3allem.
– Foreigh agents working for the government of Syria have been captured by FSA.
There you have it Norman.
Cheers!
January 22nd, 2012, 12:21 am
Ghufran said:
I am not sure I am ready to believe any news that comes out of Syria any more unless it is verified by trusted sources,I share the doubts many of you have when a story is published online without receiving the required scrutiny,what most of us are doing is posting news and usually mentioning the source( if there is one),that does not make what we post reach the level of undisputed facts.
Majed,If there is a relief for the Lira,it will be temporary,Syrians will have a very tough year in 2012,my relatives paid 72 lira / dollar last week,the recent news about the Lira is from a local non government source,I will recheck tomorrow.
The story about dead bodies being implanted then bombed is hard to believe,this is getting close to becoming like a Mexican soap opera.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:40 am
Revlon said:
Promo of liberation of Zabadani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y3sl07rPu0k
How the group of three tanks were destroyed is unknown!
Were heat seeking anti-tank missiles used from distance?!
Or was it just a concerted attack resulting direct hit from close range by RPG.
Previous hits by RPG were shot by video cam from close range.
The hits from Zabadani were shot by video cam from quite a distance!
January 22nd, 2012, 12:57 am
ann said:
The turkish lira is down a lot more than the Syrian pound vs. the dollar
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=TRYUSD%3DX+Interactive#chart1:symbol=tryusd=x;range=2y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
January 22nd, 2012, 12:57 am
ann said:
The EURO is down big vs. the US dollar also:
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=EURUSD%3DX+Interactive#chart4:symbol=eurusd=x;range=5y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
January 22nd, 2012, 1:01 am
irritated said:
Majedalkhaldoon #375
It seems your predictions failed again about the AL.
Now you invoke the excuse that they ‘have no choice’..
Of course they have a choice. They just had to listen to the SNC, the FSA, the LCC and the “thousands” of protesters “across Syria”, to Qatar and to the unanimous foreign and arabic media hammering that they should quit and refer the subject to the UNSC.
Obviously they didn’t.
Just tell us why.
Also please spare us the bodies transplanted in a bus that happen to pass near a roadside bomb.. It sounds like a sinister joke.
January 22nd, 2012, 1:07 am
irritated said:
381. ann
“The turkish lira is down a lot more than the Syrian pound vs. the dollar”
It lost 22% in 2011, and the Turkish economy is supposed to be booming!
January 22nd, 2012, 1:10 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Revlon
The video you showed us indicates that the Assad troops suffered casualties,and were forced to pull out of Zabadani area,Also it shows that the weapons used is more than FSA had when they defected,this indicate that they posses advanced weapons,these weapons can be smuggled to Ain Alfijeh area ,and then north of Damascus and East to Barzeh, this area does not have military posts. not like Sahra road and maysaloon area whch is full of military bases.
Is Surghaya also free? if the FSA control Surghaya,this means that movements from Zabadani to Lebanon is easy,
January 22nd, 2012, 1:17 am
irritated said:
#389 Revlon
Surprisingly 5 days of bombings and no human casualties. I expected the LCC and the London Observatory to claim hundred of martyrs to advance the cause of the no fly zone and the UNSC.
Why are there no death reported?
January 22nd, 2012, 1:20 am
ann said:
382. irritated said:
381. ann
“The turkish lira is down a lot more than the Syrian pound vs. the dollar”
It lost 22% in 2011, and the Turkish economy is supposed to be booming!
It lost 40% in the last 2 years. There’s a run on the turkish lira in turkish banks
January 22nd, 2012, 1:28 am
ann said:
384. irritated said:
#389 Revlon
Surprisingly 5 days of bombings and no human casualties. I expected the LCC and the London Observatory to claim hundred of martyrs to advance the cause of the no fly zone and the UNSC.
Why are there no death reported?
It’s because of the presence of the AL monitors
They can’t fabricate lies anymore 😀
January 22nd, 2012, 1:31 am
Revlon said:
Torture Machine in Syria
A documentary worth reminding all people to watch, and again!
– Torture is being employed systematically, apparently on an industrial scale.
– B. Al Assad bears the Command responsibility for the crimes.
– Every day pain is being inflicted on thousands of Syrian men, women and children
– It is a question of how many more of lives are lost and souls tortured before the tyranny machine of killing and torture is turned off.
– The human rights commissioner has recommended that the Syrian case be referred to the international courts of justice, based on available evidence of widespread, systematic killing and torture.
– SC must issue a resolution to grant jurisdiction to the prosecutor of the international criminal courts of justice to put these crimes under investigation.
الوثائقي المروع “آلة التعذيب في سورية” كامل مع الترجمة
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xn96i8_yyyyyyyy-yyyyyy-yyy-yyyyyyy-yy-yyyyy-yyyy-yy-yyyyyyy_news
January 22nd, 2012, 2:07 am
Revlon said:
384. irritatedsaid:
((#389 Revlon
Surprisingly 5 days of bombings and no human casualties. I expected the LCC and the London Observatory to claim hundred of martyrs to advance the cause of the no fly zone and the UNSC.
Why are there no death reported?))
– 95 martyrs yesterday!
http://www.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/BE90F365-EC5D-44A3-BC14-186F24AC3DF6.htm?GoogleStatID=9
– Average 35 per day for last week, including a family whose house fell, on their heads in Homs!
Your statement lacks intelligence!
January 22nd, 2012, 2:16 am
ann said:
Perry was Right on Turkey and Islamic Terror – Saturday, January 21, 2012
He may have dropped out of the race, but Perry understood what is happening in Turkey, while the USA still considered Turkey a friend.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11153
In the wake of Gov. Rick Perry’s withdrawal from the Republican presidential race, pundits will argue over the reasons for his rise and fall. But one thing is for certain: Gov. Perry was the only candidate who told the truth about Turkey’s support for anti-Israel Islamic terrorists
Perry was roundly criticized after he remarked, in the January 17 candidates’ debate, that Turkey “is being ruled by what many would perceive to be Islamic terrorists.” The State Department called Turkey “a stalwart ally” of the United States that “plays a very positive and constructive role in the region.” The New York Times, in what was supposed to be an objective news report, asserted flat-out that Perry’s statement was “inaccurate” and characterized Turkey’s governing party as “moderate.” Huffington Post columnist Dorian de Wind mocked Perry as an “uninformed Texas cowboy.”
But within hours, Gov. Perry’s critics were left with more than a little egg on their faces as the foreign minister of Iran, arrived in Turkey for a visit aimed at furthering strengthening the already-friendly relations between the two countries. Iranian Foreign Minister Ali-Akbar Salehi announced in Ankara that trade between his regime and Turkey, which had been just $5-billion annually in the past, hit $15-billion in 2010 and will reach $30 billion by 2015. Salehi, by the way, has met his Turkish counterpart, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, no less than eleven times in the past twelve months. How is that “positive and constructive”?
The truth about Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his government is that they have become experts at playing both sides of the fence–making “moderate” noises when Western ears are listening, while collaborating with Islamic terrorists whenever they can get away with it.
January 22nd, 2012, 2:23 am
873 said:
Peace or justice in the middle east? How? The “fair broker”-the zionist controlled US govt & media- are fully sold out and committed to overthrowing/destabilizing Syria on the way to eventually flattening Iran to benefit the Israeli interests that fund them. To see a grown man, a President of once-free America, grovel and crawl like a craven sycophant to his AIPAC paymaster handlers is repulsive and makes American citizens cringe.
Obama gets slapped in the face in front of the entire world by the Nation of Filth, and yet he continues to shamelessly abase himself to them. Why?
If Obama steps out of line, will the dual national treasoners murder him? Jews publically threaten to assassinate US President if their traitor agent Orly Taitz (who is not a US citizen herself, but an Israeli) cant remove him on birth certificate grounds? Funny how they never see prison, like a US citizen would if they’d done the same.
Jewish paper’s column catches Secret Service eye
By Joe Sterling, CNN January 21, 2012
Atlanta, Georgia (CNN) — The U.S. Secret Service is looking into a controversial column by an Atlanta Jewish newspaper publisher that mulled the assassination of an American president. Andrew Adler, owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, wrote a January 13 column about the threat of Iran to Israel. He posed three options for the Jewish state to counter the Iranian regime.
One of them called for a “hit on a president in order to preserve Israel\’s existence. Give the go-ahead for U.S. based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.”
Israeli designs ‘Who killed Barack Obama?’ T-shirts
04.06.08 / ynet.com
NEW YORK – The American political system sees its fair share of mudslinging, accusation and incendiary statements—especially during a presidential election campaign. An Israeli fashion designer residing in New York has, however, managed to stir up heated controversy in the city even in the midst of a hotly contested presidential campaign.
White House shooting suspect Oscar Ortega arrested
BBC 16 November 2011
A man wanted in connection with a shooting near the White House has been arrested, the US Secret Service says.
Two bullets were found at the White House, one of which struck a protective window when it was fired.
The casings were found on the grounds during a probe launched after Friday’s shooting, but have not yet been “conclusively connected” to it
Distinguishing tattoos
One bullet broke an external pane of glass and but was stopped by the protective inner layer, while another round hit the building. The casings were found on the south side of the White House, where the private presidential residence is located, including the master bedroom and the Lincoln bedroom. The discovery of the bullets, which were found on Tuesday, followed reports of gunfire between the White House and the Washington Monument at about 21:30 local time on Friday evening.
Witnesses heard shots and saw two speeding vehicles in the area. An AK-47 rifle was also recovered, the Associated Press reported.
Mr Ortega was described as a white Hispanic male of medium build, with several distinguishing tattoos – including three dots on his right hand, his name across his back AND THE WORD ISRAEL TATTOOED ON HIS NECK. (caps emphasis mine)
Are AIPAC & Co’s money and threats what have US public officials suberviently wallowing like trained dogs for the zionists?
January 22nd, 2012, 2:23 am
ann said:
Twin Cities protest says no to U.S. war threats against Iran, Syria – January 22, 2012
Minneapolis, MN – In response to growing war threats against Iran and Syria, over 50 people responded on Jan. 18 to a call to turn out to a weekly peace vigil in the Twin Cities.
The vigil, held every Wednesday on the Lake Street/Marshall Avenue Bridge over the Mississippi River between Minneapolis and Saint Paul, has on many occasions become the focus for people wishing to speak out against new and developing war threats.
The vigil is sponsored by Twin Cities Peace Campaign and Women Against Military Madness. The sponsors were joined by other groups to build the Jan. 18 vigil, including the Minnesota Peace Action Coalition and the Anti-War Committee.
A statement issued by organizers says in part, “This week, with the growing talk to military confrontation between the U.S. and Iran and the growing discussion of U.S. and Western intervention in Syria, we made a special urgent appeal for people to come out and join us to say ‘No new wars – U.S. hands off Iran and Syria.’”
“The U.S. government uses talk of human rights and nuclear weapons to win support for new wars and interventions. But after ten years of war in Afghanistan and Iraq, wars based on lies, with the untold deaths of thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan, the war makers in Washington are in no position to lecture anyone about human rights or weapons of mass destruction,” the statement continued.
“Bombs and military intervention do not bring peace, democracy or human rights, instead they bring colonial occupation,” the statement concluded.
January 22nd, 2012, 2:33 am
ann said:
Arab League likely to extend Syria mission – 22 January, 2012
http://rt.com/news/league-zabadani-syria-mission-379/
A decision on whether to extend the Arab League’s fact-finding mission in Syria is due later on Sunday, as League members convene in Cairo. A member of the mission told RT’s crew in Syria that the observers are likely to remain in the country.
The meeting comes against a backdrop of harsh criticism from opposition groups, which say the observer mission has failed to curb bloodshed.
In the latest flare-up, at least 14 people are reported to have been killed in a roadside bomb attack on a van carrying prisoners in the north-west of the country.
RT’s Sara Firth joined the observers as they visited Zabadani, a town near the Syrian capital Damascus, now largely controlled by opposition forces.
Despite the expiry of the League’s mandate, its observers continue to travel around Syria to monitor the situation. Some see this as further evidence that the LAS mission is set to continue here, possibly for another month. An Arab League observer unofficially told RT that this is very likely.
Zabadani is considered to be under the control of so-called “Free Syrian Army”. In the past few days, a temporary ceasefire has been proclaimed between rebels and government forces, and the city does seem to be divided between the two sides of the conflict, RT’s correspondent confirms. On the other hand, locals say, there is a lot of confusion about what is really going on, who is in charge, and who is killing who.
January 22nd, 2012, 2:43 am
jad said:
The terrorist militia ‘angels’ didn’t get enough blood from killing 20 Syrias yesterday in their RPG attack on the bus in Edleb yesterday and the day before, today they commit another hideous massacre they do the best, they attack a mini bus in Homs killing 15 Syrians:
خاص شبكة أخبار حمص الأولى
http://www.facebook.com/HNN.SYRIA
مجزرة جديدة في حمص :
ابن حمص ما بين لقمة العيش وما بين الارهاب الذي قطع أوصال المدينة
تحدثنا كثيراً عن تأمين الطرق ولا حياة لمن تنادي
ونظراً لأنك لا تستطيع الوصول إلى كراجات البولمن بطريقة أو بأخرى
إلا في ساعات محددة وظروف محددة يحددها القدر و الحظ
شبه بولمن تعود ملكيته للمواطن أبو رشيد حمدان
الذي يعمل على نقل المسافرين من بعض الحارات
إلى دمشق وهؤلاء المسافرين يتوزعون ما بين مدنيين وعسكريين
واليوم وفي الساعة الخامسة صباحاً تم استهداف الباص
من قبل مجموعات ارهابية مسلحة على طريق الستين لكونه الطريق الوحيد
الذي قاطني أحياء الزهراء والمهاجرين والعباسية و الأرمن
السير به للخروج من المدينة أو للوصول إلى طريق الشام
تم استهدافه اليوم بقذائف آر بي جي
نتج عنه استشهاد 15 شهيداً ما بين مدنيين وعسكريين
وإصابة 3 آخرين وهم الآن في غرف العلميات في المشفى الأهلي
في حي الزهراء والجميع من أهالي حي الزهراء
في حين جثامين الشهداء بقيت في محلها وهي في حالة تفحم كامل
بالإضافة إلى البولمن الذي تم استهدافه
وبانتظار وصوصل رافعة لنقل البولمن ولنقل الجثامين
وتزامناً في نفس الوقت وصلت إصابة إلى المشفى الاهلي
لأحد المواطنين الذي استهدفته المجموعات الإرهابية أيضاً في شارع الستين
الرحمة على أرواح الشهداء والشفاء العاجل للمصابين
طرق حمص مقطوعة لأعمال الصيانة
ومسؤولين لبسوا لباس موحد كتب على ظهورهم عمال صيانة
وما زالت فيروز تغني إيه في أمل
خاص شبكة أخبار حمص الأولى
http://www.facebook.com/HNN.SYRIA
January 22nd, 2012, 2:57 am
jad said:
The AL meeting today has two options on its agenda,
-Extend the AL observers mission
-Suspend the mission and send the Syrian file to the UNSC
From previous experience the second is the outcome:
روز اليوسف:إمكانية إحالة الملف السوري لمجلس الأمن أو التمديد للمراقبي
كشفت مصادر دبلوماسية، في حديث إلى صحيفة “روزاليوسف” أن “رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب إلى سوريا الفريق أول أحمد مصطفى الدابي، أرسل تقريره الأول للجامعة العربية وقد تم التعتيم عليه من جانب الأمانة العامة”، مؤكدة أن “هناك قرارين مدرجين على جدول أعمال الاجتماع الوزاري، الأول يتضمن التمديد لعمل البعثة لمدة شهر آخر فب سوريا حتى تتمكن البعثة من إنجاز عملها والتأكد من أن الحكومة السورية ملتزمة بتنفيذ بنود مبادرة الجامعة العربية، أما القرار الثانب فيتضمن إنهاء مهمة عمل البعثة وإحالة الملف السوري إلى مجلس الأمن والطلب من أمين عام الأمم المتحدة بمتابعة تطورات الأزمة السورية”.
كما كشفت المصادر أنه “تم استبعاد مقترح قطر الخاص بإرسال قوات عربية إلى سوريا خاصة بعد أن رفضته أغلب الدول العربية أعضاء المجموعة الوزارية الخاصة بسوريا، فيما لوحت الولايات المتحدة بإمكانية إغلاق سفارتها فى سوريا ونقل جميع موظفيها بسبب تدهور الوضع الأمني، لاعتقادها أن الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد لم يعد يسيطر بشكل كامل على البلاد بعد عشرة أشهر من الاحتجاجات”.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:06 am
jad said:
Bassam AlKadi- بسام القاضي
أمر من أمور أعرفها يقينا:
هؤلاء الذين مازالوا يدافعون عن القتلة المجرمين باسم “الإنسانية” و”حماية المدنيين” و”من المسؤول أولا” و…..
سوف يبكون دما حين يطالهم أو يطال أبناءهم و بناتهم العنف الأعمى الإجرامي الذي لا هوية له سوى القتل والإجرام والخيانة..
وحينها.. واثق أنكم/ن لن تجدون من يتعاطف معكم/ن…
فهل ستستفيقون من عماكم/ن قبل أن يفوت الأوان؟؟!!
January 22nd, 2012, 3:12 am
873 said:
385. ann said:
381. ann
“The turkish lira is down a lot more than the Syrian pound vs. the dollar” It lost 22% in 2011, and the Turkish economy is supposed to be booming!
It lost 40% in the last 2 years. There’s a run on the turkish lira in turkish banks
Dear Ann,
Guess Rothschild, Inc is putting the vise on Turkish Central Bank? Paymasters yanked the chain? Prostrate your country or we’ll destroy it!
Turkey dropping Marmara lawsuits
Alex Fishman Published: 01.13.12, 09:45 / Israel News
Sources in the US State Department said that the Turkish attorney general has ordered that all legal proceedings against Israeli elements involved in the IDF raid on the Marmara ship in May 2010 to be halted, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.
According to the sources, Turkish prosecutors were instructed to withdraw all proceedings against the elements that gave the order to take over the ship or who actively raided the vessel, an event which resulted in the deaths of nine Turkish citizens.
The State Department said that this decision is linked to US efforts to defuse tensions between Israel and Turkey. This includes attempts by Israeli envoy to Turkey David Meidan to find a formula which will allow the sides to end hostility.
In the past, Ankara has demanded that Israel apologize for the raid and pay damages to the families of the Turkish victims and will in return drop legal proceedings.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:18 am
William Scott Scherk said:
Ghufran’s post above at #98 (in Arabic) is remarkable. I don’t know where the pasted excerpt is from, but it refers to an interview with Le Figaro given by Michel Kilo.
The French version of the interview is behind a paywall at Figaro, but a kind soul on the internet translated into English:
(link)
Ghufran’s post of Kilo’s remarks as paraphrased by the unnamed Arabic source got nine thumbs down and only one positive mark. I wonder why that is.
I like how Kilo calls no one a terrorist or a traitor — that his disagreements are principled and long-standing — but especially how his essential empathy for the Revolution shines through clearly. He empathizes deeply for the oppressed and suffering in Syria, I gather, and has spent his own long years in the dungeon.
It is too bad that Kilo says things like this to a paywalled Figaro, and not on TV in Syria, on Addounia or Syria TV. Is there any room on state TV and its Makhlouf cousin by corruption? Is there no room on SC for him at least?
Me, I wish we could get Michel Kilo to do an interview with a couple of the conflicted here, with questions drawn from such as JAD (who might find Kilo’s opinions congenial) perhaps and Son of Damascus — otherwise opposed or in disagreement on fundamentals. Kilo has sure been around the block and must know Syria very well. I would sure take a few thousand words from Kilo than another cut and paste from Xinhua.
If anyone is interested, I will put my money where my mouth is and see if Mr Kilo would answer some questions put to him by SC commenters.
January 22nd, 2012, 4:40 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Many people that today conforms the elites of Syria , owning bussiness and sharing the system (neo-capitalist system) are members of socialist or communist parties (or their sons), many palestinians, and they got all they got for belonging to this party and for defending their ideals. Today they are supporting the capitalist system, hiding their fortunes and fighting against the masses. Of course, they are the real defenders of the masses, since they were socialists and communists, but the conspiracy is moving the people of Syria against their leaders. So the elites are communist, incredibly rich and killing the masses help them know they are victims of a conspiracy. Time is on our side.
January 22nd, 2012, 5:32 am
William Scott Scherk said:
IRRITATED says “It is a stain on their nation that nothing can ever correct and all the Germans deep inside know it.”
No, my friend, the stain here is on you for grouping nationality with evil, for visiting the sins of the grandfathers upon the innocent.
Irritated, although you are usually snide and bilious, you rarely descend to such lows as damning all Germans for Nazism. You owe the list and Juergen an apology. That is a really low and unnecessary thing to say. Please retract that remark and show some integrity.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:15 am
defender said:
352
In difference from you Norman has no feeling of inferiority and was brightly expressed!
January 22nd, 2012, 7:33 am
Ghat Al Bird said:
Senator Chuck Schumer and the other Senator from New York want the Obama administration to put “sanctions” on Syria.
Guess that must be good news for some. And dont you all know who Senator Schumer is a strong supporter of?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10053707
January 22nd, 2012, 7:46 am
defender said:
To lie to lie and once again to lie while itself you will not believe is basic line of the western modern policy. There will come soon time when will collect commission Vinogradov on the failure analysis!!
January 22nd, 2012, 7:54 am
Tara said:
Khaled Mashaal is not going to seek re-nomination net election. That is good, not That I have anything against him but 16 hrs is enough. Looking forward to the success of the Syrian revolution, then Sudan, Algeria, and Morocco in 2012. 4 a year is a good number. It becomes too overwhelmingly emotional to support more than 4 a year. Also, read below: the honorable Palestinians have refused to back the Syrian regime, angering the mullahs.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/21/hamas-chief-khaled-meshaal-step-down
Khaled Meshaal has announced he will leave his post as political leader of Hamas at the next elections.
Khaled Meshaal, the political head of Hamas, is to step down from his position when elections for the leadership of the Palestinian Islamist organisation take place in the next few months.
A statement from Meshaal’s office said the Damascus-based leader would not seek re-nomination after 16 years at the helm, but would continue to serve the movement. It followed reports of the move earlier this week.
Meshaal has indicated in recent weeks that Hamas should make a strategic departure from armed struggle to popular non-violent resistance in the wake of the Arab spring revolutions and the success of Islamist parties in elections.
The new approach caused a rift with the internal Gaza leadership, which said there would be no change in Hamas policy. “There has been no change concerning our mode of thinking towards the conflict,” Mahmoud Zahar, the most senior Hamas figure inside Gaza, told the Guardian in an interview this month.
Meshaal’s decision to step down may indicate that the Hamas leadership within Gaza has won a power struggle.
Meshaal had also been pushing for Palestinian reconciliation and the formation of a national unity government ahead of elections. However, he was reported to be frustrated with the slow and uncertain progress, and few observers believe elections will take place this year.
The Hamas leader was also looking for a new base for the organisation amid the ongoing revolt in Syria. Hamas had refused to back the regime of the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, infuriating the Iranian government, which had sponsored both it and the Syrian leadership.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:35 am
Tara said:
The Syrian opposition has withstood blow after blow.
Another month, another failed attempt to stop the killings by Syrian dictator Bashar Assad.
The latest lame effort: a mission sent by the Arab League in response to endless reports of innocents being murdered and tortured by security forces.
The league’s observers were supposed to be there to see whether Assad was making good on a December pledge to end his crackdown on dissent.
But as the mission ended Thursday, the terms of an extension up in the air, the watchdogs were on a tight leash — confined to their hotels.
On the ground, there were no signs anything had changed.
In the first 10 days after the observers arrived, about 400 people were reported killed. Then came dozens more.
News is sporadic and unreliable because, thanks to Assad, Syria is a free-press-free zone.
Stating the obvious, one observer said: “Without the correct tools, without the correct authority . . . we can’t do the job.”
This is how the bloodshed continues — with impunity.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/impotent-arab-league-monitoring-assad-continues-kill-people-article-1.1009538?localLinksEnabled=false
January 22nd, 2012, 8:48 am
Observer said:
Mr. Alkadi and others that have recently posted comments on Cham Press are now more than ever expressing a new tone: sit down let us talk!!!!
The horse has left the barn. The people will not accept this regime.
In Tunis and Egypt the armed forces refused to suppress the uprising and therefore the regimes fell rather quickly. In Libya the regime opted from the outset for massive repression and the intervention of outside forces tipped the balance to the rebels. In Yemen, the regime is fighting a rearguard action to try preserving one thing : immunity from prosecution; not even its stay in power.
In Syria, the use of the repression arm has backfired and is daily splitting the armed forces and weakening the security services. When thugs and bullies get a push back they usually can get demoralized quickly, and in the case of payed thugs, their price to continue to repress will rise with the rising cost to them of trying to maintain order therefore we are seeing disarray among the troops and even the loyalty of these troops is now in question.
I am puzzled however by the poor showing of the fourth division in Zabadani; for these are the best trained and best equipped troops and they are dedicated to the regime. Was the resistance a surprise? Were the destruction of cell phone towers a deterrent? Did the troops refuse to fight?
Now some on this blog consider the revolution as another evil to fight a lesser evil: meaning the devil we know in this regime is better than what might come. They often cite stories about what happened in Iraq and in Libya and often bring the fears of the Christians whether Copts or Assyrians or Iraqis as an example of what is to come. The reality is
1. This regime is the most evil thing that ever happened to Syria and is similar in its structure and make up to the worst Rumanian and Stazi or NK states that you can ever imagine.
2. The very structure of this regime carries within it the seeds of its destruction as the only way to remain in power is to continue to oppress and repress and deny people their rights and freedoms and lure them with promises of reforms and corrections while the propaganda machine continues to spew stupidity.
For example, the number one item of the news on Doonia TV today is the awarding of the boy President the prize of the Russian Association of Writers Prize. I am not aware that he has written any books; he can hardly say anything coherent these days let alone write. This is an example of the utter total stupid backwardness of this regime. They are still in the dark ages with pure cult of personality thinking.
3. The torture machine that we are witnessing unfold in front of our eyes has also shown that the regime is utterly depraved and is nothing more than a monster disguised behind the so called glamorous look of the first ( last in my opinion ) lady. They think that by putting a few of her pictures waving to the adoring crowds they can hide the incredible torture that people suffer. Today the two released “smugglers” from Lebanon show evidence of torture on their bodies and the abductors were in civilian clothes clearly indicating that they are security forces on board the Syrian navy boats.
4. As for the economy, this is a country that has to import its own currency being unable to print it at home, and to commission other countries to print the money. This is a country that still imports its sewing needles and has an economy that is agrarian in large part with an oil sector that for years was the “private” domain of the late President and outside of the budget calculations. Some say that the fortune of the Assad/Makhlouf clan is as high as 70 billion dollars and of course they would not in their wildest dreams put that money in their oh so dear national currency.
This regime is a cruel farce and is a joke in very bad taste.
One final question:
Does anyone on this blog ever read Adoring News Network postings?
I am not sure what relevance the Turkish Lira or the Euro value has on the situation in Syria.
I think that like the most ape-like humans that call themselves the leaders of Syria she/he know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:50 am
Tara said:
Dabi seems to like his stay in the Four Season in Damascus and has asked for extension. What not to like in the perspective of a war criminal? He is too tainted. If the AL decided to extend the mission for one more month, then they should replace Dabi with someone without criminal records.
January 22nd, 2012, 9:10 am
irritated said:
401. William Scott Scherk
Juergen replied to my ‘bilious’ attack. I don’t believe he needs someone to defend him or his fathers
It won’t change my mind about Germany, its past crimes and the denial of its engrained superiority feeling.
January 22nd, 2012, 9:41 am
Revlon said:
Declaration of the Academicians of Syrian Universities
21/01/2012
http://www.facebook.com/TheSyrianNationalCouncil
في البدء كانت الكلمة، و كان الإنسان.
من آدم إلى عفاف السراقبي يظلُّ الإنسان ومضة برق على صفحة بحر الحياة، يحترق، يشقى، يتعذّب، لكنّه في النهاية يتمجّد، لأنّه علّم الوجود معنى الوجود، فأصبح وجوده بحدِّ ذاته درباً إلى القمة، على سدرة منتهاها ترتفع للحقِّ راية ويُقام للعدل ميزان.
علّمنا التّاريخ أنّ العلم منارة مقدسة ماتزال تلتمع أمام العيون المدماة في جنح الظلام، لأنّه مكتوب، منذ فجر التّاريخ إلى يومنا الراهن أنّه بالعلم ترتقي الحضارة و بالعلم تنتصر إرادة الشعوب. ولا توسط في حدّ الحدّ بين أن نعيش العمر أحراراً أو نركع العمر كلّه على الركبتين.
باسم أساتذة الجامعات السّورية الأحرار
نعلن انضمامنا إلى قافلة الأحرار، ورفضنا وإدانتنا لنظام الأسد الطاغي الذي أغرق الأمّة بالدماء، وأطاح بخيرة رجالها حقداً وظلماً بغير وجه حق. وندين جرائمه التي ارتكبها ويرتكبها بحقّ الشّعب الأعزل الحرِّ الذي خرج ملبياً نداء الحرّية وكسر حاجز الخوف بعد سنوات عجاف من الصمت والذل والقهر والاستغلال.
أهدافنا:
المضي قدماً في مسيرة الحرّية حتى الشهادة أو النصر.
الانتصار لإراداة الشعب في إسقاط النظام الأسدي بكافة رموزه.
الوقوف جنباً إلى جنب مع طلابنا الأحرار في ساحات النضال قولاً وعملاً، ومحاسبة الاتحاد الوطني لطلبة سورية الذي ظهر على حقيقته مدافعاً عن نظام الاجرام، الذي أساء بشكل مباشر لكلّ طالب علم في الجامعة.
العمل على تحويل الجامعات السورية قاطبة إلى منارة علم وعدل وحرية نزيهة شريفة تخلص لرؤيتها ورسالتها التربوية الحضارية وتسعى جاهدة لتحقيقها.
العمل على إعادة هيكلة الجامعات السورية ووضع الرجل المناسب في المكان المناسب عن طريق انتخاب نزيه.
العمل على إعادة تقييم المنهاج الدراسي وتطويره بما يواكب الجامعات العالمية.
العمل على التخلص من جذور البعثية الطّاغية المستبدّة وإبعاد شبحها الغاشم عن ساحات العلم والكرامة.
العمل على تطهير الجامعات السورية من كلّ المظاهر المخابراتية والتشبيحية والأمنية الفاسدة.
محاربة كل التحزبات والتجمعات والكيانات التي تسيء لجامعاتنا السورية الحرّة وتصمها بالعار وتقودها إلى الحضيض علمياً وأخلاقياً.
محاربة الفساد في الحرم الجامعي بكل أشكاله ورموزه وفضح الفاسدين وتقديمهم للعدالة.
السّعي إلى توحيد الصّفوف والتآلف بين أفراد الشعب السوري عامة وفي الأوساط الأكاديمية خاصة، بعيداً عن كلّ أشكال الطّائفية البغيضة.
إحياء دور الأساتذة الجامعيين في خدمة المجتمع ومناصرة الضعفاء ودعم المحتاجين والأسرة المنكوبة.
مساندة فصائل الثورة و حماية سلميتها.
دعم فصائل الجيش السوري الحرّ في تحقيق أهدافه في حماية الأحرار والدفاع عن الأعراض و إسقاط النظام الأسدي الغاشم.
الاستعداد التام لبناء سورية الجديدة الحرة بعد إسقاط نظام الأسد ودعم البرامج الديمقراطية والدّفاع عن حقوق المواطنة والحرية في الترشيح والانتخاب للحكومة الجديدة.
المشاركة الفعالة في تصعيد الرأي العام العالمي ضد إجرام اللانظام الأسدي وفضح ممارساته الدنيئة ونفاقه وفبركاته من خلال القنوات الإعلامية العالمية والصحافة الحرة.
عاشت سورية حرة أبية
والخلود لشعبنا العظيم
اتحاد أساتذة الجامعات السورية الأحرار
21 / 1 / 2012
By: اتحاد أساتذة الجامعات السورية الأحرار.
5 hours ago
January 22nd, 2012, 9:44 am
irritated said:
#410 Revlon
“the Academicians of Syrian Universities” =
A federation of free university professors
January 22nd, 2012, 9:48 am
irritated said:
Revlon
Thanks for the updated reported casualties across Syria( Rami Abdul Rahman is still quoted in all foreign news as the head of the London Observatory.. obviously the confusion persists, despite the letter)
Yet, I did not see casualties in Zabadani after 5 days of ‘heavy shelling’. Do you have an explanation?
January 22nd, 2012, 9:56 am
Mina said:
New Release: Yassin Al-Haj Saleh analyses social and political contexts of the Syrian revolution
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContentP/18/31918/Books/New-Release-Yassin-AlHaj-Saleh-analyses-social-and.aspx
Saleh’s ‘Walking on One Leg’ tries to uncover the social motivations that led Syrians to revolt
Mohammed Saad, Wednesday 18 Jan 2012
Al-Sayr ala Qadam Waheda (Walking on One Leg), by Yassin Al-Haj Saleh, Beirut: Dar AlAdaab Publishing House. 2011. 320pp.
Syrian political activist and writer Yassin Al-Haj Saleh has just released his new book, Al-Sayr ala Qadam Waheda (Walking on One Leg), through Al-Adaab Publishing house in Beirut. The book tackles Syrian political and social contexts through 52 articles written between 2006 and 2010.
Walking on One Leg includes two articles written after the start of the Syrian revolution that attempt to uncover the social motivations of the revolution. Saleh hopes his book, released 10 months after revolution broke out last March, will offer an overall view of the social circumstances that led the Syrian to revolt. In the preface, Saleh specifically denies the claim that he predicted the revolution in his book.
It’s noteworthy that Saleh, who resides in Syria right now, had great trouble in receiving a hard copy of his book due to the harsh circumstances imposed by the Syrian regime and security forces.
Saleh divides the articles into five main lines, the first tackling the state and power; the second analysing the economic transformations that took place during the past years and its impact on the social map in Syria; the third discussing the problem of the Israeli occupation of Golan; the fourth concerning Syria’s regional location; and the fifth relating to Syrians national identity.
Yassin Al-Haj Saleh, 51, a Syrian thinker, writer and former political prisoner, spent 16 years in the Syrian regime’s prisons during the 1980s and 1990s. He is a regular contributor to various Arabic newspapers and periodicals, including a weekly column in ‘Al-Hayat’ newspaper issued from London. He published two books after he was released from prison in 1997, “Syria from the shadow: Glimpses Inside the Black Box” and “Myths of the Others: Criticizing Contemporary Islam and Criticizing its Criticism.”
January 22nd, 2012, 9:59 am
irritated said:
The US blackmailing Japan over Iran oil. How long can Japan accept the diktat of the USA arrogant foreign policy?
Japan seeks exception on Iran sanctions
2012-01-19 21:43:50
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/indepth/2012-01/19/c_131369531.htm
TOKYO, Jan. 19 (Xinhua) — Japan asked the United States on Thursday to waive a law banning financial institutions who have done business with Iran’s central bank from operating in the United States.
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The U.S. side has said that the White House may grant a country a waiver to the sanctions if it has “significantly reduced its volume of crude oil purchases from Iran.”
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January 22nd, 2012, 10:39 am
majedkhaldoun said:
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/01/22/189816.html
HA forces in Madaya,and Iran has forces there, this is foreign troops and this not acceptable
January 22nd, 2012, 10:40 am
Revlon said:
FSA fighters came sprang up from nowhere to confront Sahbbeeha (Assad Paramilitia) as they started to shoot at demonstrators.
Ban Al Sbaa, Homs
20 1 2012 Homs أوغاريت حمص حي باب السباع , الجيش الحر يتصدى لكتائب الاسد اثناء اطلاق النار على المتظاهرين
FSA fighters are succeeding in keeping protests alive, energising demonstrators, and detering Assad forces by making them pay heavy price.
January 22nd, 2012, 10:51 am
Revlon said:
410. irritatedsaid:
((Revlon
Yet, I did not see casualties in Zabadani after 5 days of ‘heavy shelling’. Do you have an explanation?)
You saw the destruction did you not?
How about people were in the basements.
How about Assad forces could not enter the city and thus a carnage similar to Rastan’s or Idlib’s have been averted.
Thank you for providing a better translation of the “Union of the Free Syrian professors”
January 22nd, 2012, 10:56 am
zoo said:
The greatest danger facing Egypt: Economic crisis
http://www.todayszaman.com/columnistDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=269200
Egypt, which has managed to make it through the elections for its People’s Assembly without experiencing a crisis, will hold elections for its Shora Assembly in the coming days, followed by the presidential elections in June of this year.
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But the economic crisis definitely tops the list of topics. The economic challenge occupies the minds of everyone, from the High Military Council, which is currently in power, to the Muslim Brotherhood, and from the Salafis to the various liberal parties.
The economic crisis is rearing its ugly head in nearly every area imaginable in Egyptian life these days. The shortages of petrol and natural gas in recent days are some of the clearest examples of this. And while Egypt’s exports have dropped by nearly 50 percent, the official drop in tourism revenues is said to be 33 percent. As for the Egyptian stock market, it has lost almost 50 percent of its value.
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January 22nd, 2012, 11:06 am
irritated said:
#415 Revlon
Sorry, I am not convinced that “5 days of heavy shelling and fights” caused a few damages on buildings and not a single death. You mean Zabadani was equipped with bombs shelters where the civilians took refuge?
I think either the shelling was targeting part of the town where the FSA forces were regrouped and the FSA avoids admitting their losses, or there was no real heavy shelling and no fights at all.
January 22nd, 2012, 11:16 am
Revlon said:
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
بيان صادر عن قيادة الجيش السوري الحر
FSA Command Announcement
22/01/2012
http://www.freesyrianarmy1.com/ar/node/224
إن قيادة الجيش السوري الحر تستنكر وبشدة عما ورد في صحيفة اللوفيغارو الفرنسية حول مقتل الصحفي الفرنسي ونحن نعتبره شهيداً من شهداء الثورة وسقط على أيدي كتائب الأسد المجرمة
وأيضاً تدين كل محاولات التشويه التي تقوم بها بعض شخصيات ما تسمى معارضة والتي تغازل النظام عن بعد أمثال هيثم مناع بعد أن باعت دماء السوريين طمعاً بالحصول على مكاسب من النظام
FSA Command strongly reject allegations published by Le Figaro of responsibility of FSA for the death of the French Journalist whom we regard as martyr of the revolution, at the hands of Assad Shabbeeha.
We denounce all attempts to defame FSA by some,so-called opposition figures, the likes of H. mannaa who court the regime for the sake of favours.
المكتب الإعلامي – الجيش السوري الحر
Press Office
FSA
January 22nd, 2012, 11:20 am
irritated said:
Revlon
Do you understand why the foreign news keep referring to Rami Abdel Rahman as the head of the London Observatory despite the letter they posted on their site informing the press that the ‘guy’ is a fake?
January 22nd, 2012, 11:20 am
irritated said:
20. Revlon said:
“FSA Command strongly reject allegations published by Le Figaro of responsibility of FSA for the death of the French Journalist whom we regard as martyr of the revolution, at the hands of Assad Shabbeeha.”
What else could they say? admitting their mistake and loosing more of their credibility?
January 22nd, 2012, 11:23 am
zoo said:
Douma is not ( anymore?) in the hands of the FSA, a new Doha based group say.
The total number of FSA rebels in Douma and Zabadani is about 550 men.
Sun, 22 Jan 2012, 13:34 GMT+3 – Syria
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/liveblog/syria-jan-22-2012-1634
More on the violence in Douma, this time from the Doha-based Syrian Revolution General Commission (SRGC).
A spokesperson for the anti-Assad rights group has told Al Jazeera that violence broke out in the Damascus suburb on Saturday after troops carried out a military assault on the area.
Today, the group says, troops re-entered several areas of the suburb and shelled some of them. It says limited clashes took place between government troops and those loyal to the so-called “Free Syrian Army”, and that explosions could be heard on Mesraba Bridge and Aleppo Street.
The group says there are about 300 members of the FSA in Douma, and another 250 or so in the contested area of Zabadani.
January 22nd, 2012, 11:31 am
Tara said:
Aljazeera has the AL meeting life. Tune in.
January 22nd, 2012, 11:32 am
Revlon said:
417. irritated:
((#415 Revlon
or there was no real heavy shelling and no fights at all))
Was Fourth Brigade having a tank ride in Zabadani?
Would you call destruction and burning of three Assad forces tanks that I linked to earlier as: “No fight at all?
Ignoring facts does not make them disappear!
420. irritated:
((20. Revlon
((What else could they say? admitting their mistake and loosing more of their credibility?))
Admitting one’s mistake boosts one’s credibility!
Covering up does not!
Welcome to the all new, post-Assad Syria!
January 22nd, 2012, 11:34 am
Tara said:
KSA is withdrawing it’s observers from the mission.
January 22nd, 2012, 11:37 am
Syria no kandahar said:
Ok,let see if the blood sucker Revlon is going to admit his friends crimes or like usual he will cover up their sh..t in his demented terrorist way:
January 22nd, 2012, 11:43 am
irritated said:
Revlon $423
“Admitting one’s mistake boosts one’s credibility!”
“Covering up does not!”
I agree, then why is the FSA covering up this blunder as well as the police bus explosion that killed 14 prisoners (confirmed by the LCC)?
January 22nd, 2012, 11:46 am
Syria no kandahar said:
قصف شامل لحلب منذ صباح اليوم
حلب ٢٢/١/٢٠١٢
الله عليك يابشار
وينكن يامراقبين
القصف مستمر
مالنا غيرك ياالله
January 22nd, 2012, 11:57 am
zoo said:
“Today the Syrian revolutionaries are pursuing a strategy that seems smart and effective so far, namely the search for a Syrian Benghazi or as a source close to what is happening on the ground in Syria told me, the rebels are “searching for multiple Benghazis, not just one”.
Syria’s Benghazi
22/01/2012 By Tariq Alhomayed
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=2&id=28192
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Therefore, the rebels are now seeking to impose a new reality in search of the Syrian Benghazi, and then unite the separated areas in one line or under one context, to serve as a buffer zone before the intervention of any third party. This may explain the information that has been reported about the al-Assad regime’s attempt to involve groups from Hezbollah, in order to help thwart the project for Syrian “Benghazis”! There is also a theory that the al-Assad regime is deliberately waiting for the departure of the Arab observer delegation to deliver a final blow to the rebels.
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January 22nd, 2012, 11:58 am
zoo said:
Political activists condemn the graphic tortures inflicted by the opposition on the Syrian Air Force officer.
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=2&id=28184
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The topic of discussion, or so it appears, is a leaked video that shows a Syrian Air Force Intelligence Directorate officer admitting to killing Syrian demonstrators. In the recording, the man appears to be bleeding and bruises can clearly be seen on his face, whilst those questioning him disdainfully refer to him as “boy”. We can assume that the recording was leaked by Syrian dissidents, perhaps even members of the group calling itself the Free Syrian Army [FSA].
Since we didn’t believe the videos shown on Syrian state television in which activists admitted to having committed violations, we will similarly not believe the story being told by the man in this recording. We will therefore not believe that he participated in the killings of Syrians, for now he is the victim and we will take his side in the same manner that we previously took the Syrian revolution’s side.
In fact, what has raised concerns amongst the Syrian people, and others who support Syrian activism, are the contents of these leaked videos, some of which were posted on YouTube. They all share the same features, namely an adoption of the approach of assault, torture, and sometimes killing members of the Syrian army and pro-regime Shabiha, on the basis that the Syrian regime’s practices excuse this and allow the opposition – or at least some of them – to adopt the same approach.
Courageous Syrian political activists such as Razan Zaitouneh, Samar Yazbek and others have not hesitated to condemn this issue as a disgrace that will strip the Syrian revolution of its credibility and legitimacy. Whatever the justification, the regime’s brutal practices must not become a pretext for the opposition to do the same.
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January 22nd, 2012, 12:06 pm
Tara said:
Aljeria, Sudan, Lebanon, and Iraq want the extension and they dominated the minstrial commission. Of course, 2 Shiaa-controlled countries and 2 countries ruled by dictators. What outcome do anyone expect?
January 22nd, 2012, 12:06 pm
jad said:
Irritated,
the terrorist fsa are doing the work of whoever pays more, they are changing from being just an armed terrorist militia killing people in buses to mercenaries doing the killing for someone else:
أول دليل ميداني على تورط إسرائيل المباشر في عمليات “الجيش السوري الحر” في ريف دمشق
مسلحو رياض الأسعد يهاجمون وحدة الحرب الإلكترونية التي ساهمت بشكل فعال في “حرب تموز” وتقتل قائدها العميد حسن الإبراهيم
دمشق ، الحقيقة ( خاص من : حسين كردي): علمت “الحقيقة” من مصدر واسع الإطلاع في إدارة الدفاع الجوي أن مسلحين ينشطون تحت اسم “الجيش السوري الحر” هاجموا صباح اليوم المحطة الرئيسة لإدارة الحرب الإلكترونية الواقعة على إحدى المرتفعات في منطقة تلفيتا ـ رنكوس (20 كم إلى الشمال الغربي من دمشق) وقتلوا قائدها العميد المهندس حسن عبد الله الإبراهيم وأحد مساعديه ، الملازم الأول المهندس يامن خضور ، بينما كانا على وشك الدخول إلى المحطة في بداية عملهما الصباحي. وقال المصدر إن الاعتداء الإجرامي أدى إلى إصابة المقدم المهندس حسين الناصر والرقيب الأول المجند زياد الحمد والرقيب الأول خضر صفية بجروح متفاوتة ما بين خطيرة ومتوسطة. وكشف المصدر أن المحطة ، التي تقع على ارتفاع أكثر من 1700 متر عن سطح البحر قريبا من دير “الشيروبيم” المقدس عن الطوائف المسيحية، كان لها دور فعال جدا في ” حرب تموز 2006″ ، حيث كانت تمد مقاتلي حزب الله بمعلومات إنذارية عن الغارات الإسرائيلية على لبنان فور إقلاع الطائرات الإسرائيلية من مطاراتها في فلسطين المحتلة . كما كانت تمدهم بمعلومات استخبارية عن تحركات الوحدات العسكرية الإسرائيلية البرية خلال أيام الحرب ، وبشكل خاص الهجوم البري الذي شنته إسرائيل خلال الأيام الثلاثة الأخيرة من الحرب المذكورة وأدت إلى إلحاق هزيمة منكرة بالوحدات المهاجمة في منطقة “وادي الحجير” حين تمكن مقاتلو حزب الله من تدمير جميع الدبابات والمدرعات الإسرائيلية المهاجمة. وكشف المصدر في هذا السياق أن من بين المهمات التي كانت يقوم بها تقنيو المحطة خلال الحرب ، وعلى رأسهم الشهداء والجرحى الذين سقطوا اليوم ، هو الدخول على شبكات الاتصال العسكرية الإسرائيلية والتنصت على الاتصالات فيما بين الوحدات العسكرية الإسرائيلية المهاجمة، ثم تزويد حزب الله بهذه المعلومات عبر ” خط عسكري ساخن” يتصل مع غرفة العمليات المركزية في “حزب الله”. وقال المصدر ” إن خبراء عسكريين متخصصين بالحرب الإلكترونية ، من روسيا وإيران ، يعملون في المحطة المذكورة ، لكن ليس معلوما ما إذا كان أحد منهم تعرض لأذى”.
وتحتل المحطة أهمية استراتيجية في مقدرات الجيش السوري التقنية ، كونها تغطي وتشرف على معظم أراضي فلسطين المحتلة، ولا تبعد عن الجليل الأعلى في فلسطين وعن جنوب لبنان أكثر من 80 كم. ويعتقد خبراء عسكريون أنها توازي في أهميتها محطة الاستطلاع الإلكتروني الإسرائيلية في قمة جبل الشيخ المحتلة.
يشار إلى أن ضابط مكافحة الإرهاب السابق في وكالة المخابرات المركزية الأميركية والجيش الأميركي ، فيليب جيرالدي، أكد في العدد الأخير من مجلة ” أميريكان كونسرفاتيف” أن قوات خاصة أميركية وفرنسية وبريطانية تدير عمليات “الجيش الحر” على الأرض في ريف دمشق وأماكن أخرى من سوريا.كما أن ضابطا يعمل بالقرب من رياض الأسعد كان كشف لـ”الحقيقة” في تشرين الثاني / نوفمبر الماضي أن الأسعد اتفق مع الملحقية العسكرية في السفارة الأميركية بأنقرة على استهداف الأماكن الاستراتيجية الخاصة بالجيش السوري.
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/6511/Default.aspx
Attacking a bus with RPG killing 15:
مسلحو “كتيبة الفاروق” يرتكبون مجزرة مروعة صباح اليوم ضد باص لنقل الركاب كان متجها إلى دمشق
المعلومات الأولية تفيد بسقوط جميع ركاب الباص وتفحم جثث الكثيرين منهم باستثناء ثلاثة تمكنوا من الهرب ، وأهالي الضحايا يتظاهرون ويشتمون بشار الأسد
دمشق / حمص ـ الحقيقة ( خاص): ارتكبت “كتيبة الفاروق” صباح اليوم مجزرة مروعة راح ضحيتها العشرات ما بين قتيل وجريح من الأبرياء المسافرين من حمص إلى دمشق. وقال مصدر ميداني لـ”الحقيقة” إن مسلحي “كتيبة الفاروق” هاجموا باص “بولمان” يملكه شخص يدعى ” أبو رشيد” بينما كان يشق طريقه إلى دمشق في “شارع الستين” بمنطقة “عشيرة” في “بساتين الزيتون” بحمص. وبحسب المصدر ، فإن جميع ركاب الباص ، بمن فيهم ثلاثة فقط تمكنوا من الهرب رغم إصاباتهم ، سقطوا بين قتيل وجريح. وأفادت المعلومات الأولية بأن عدد الشهداء يترواح ما بين 15 إلى 20 ، وأن عددا غير قليل من الجثث تفحم بالكامل وزالت معالمه البشرية كليا بالنظر لاستهداف الباص بقذائف “آر بي جي” ورشاشات ، ما أدى إلى احتراقه بالكامل ، خصوصا وأن خزان وقوده ( الديبو) كان ممتلئا بالديزل ( أو البنزين) كونه في بداية رحلته إلى دمشق. وقال المصدر إن تظاهرات عفوية انطلقت بعد الجريمة مباشرة في منطقة ” حي الزاهرة” التي ينتمي إليها الضحايا في أغلبيتهم ، وبدأوا إطلاق شعارات وشتائم شخصية بذيئة جدا ضد رأس السلطة بشار الأسد بسبب “فشله في تأمين الحماية لهم”!.
يشار إلى أن “كتيبة الفاروق” ، التابعة لما يسمى “الجيش الحر” ، تنشط في حمص ومحيطها إلى جانب كتيبة أخرى تطلق على نفسها اسم ” خالد بن الوليد”. وتعتبر الأولى مسؤولة عن معظم عمليات القتل والاختطاف وتخريب المنشآت العامة في المحافظة ( مثل أنابيب النفط والغاز) . وتتكون الكتيبة في معظمها ، باستثناء عدد محدود من العسكريين المنشقين ، من مسلحين إسلاميين سبق لهم أن قاتلوا في ” الفلوجة” و ” الأنبار” في العراق ضمن إطار مجموعات “القاعدة” التي كان أبرز رموزها ” أبو مصعب الزرقاوي”. ويعتبر المدعو خالد غازي زغيب ( نجل أمين فرع حزب البعث السابق في حمص) و الملازم الأول المنشق عبد الله طلاس ، أبرز رموز الكتيبة المذكورة ، والمسؤولين عن معظم عمليات القتل والخطف والتمثيل بالجثث ، بما في ذلك خطف المهندسين والتقنيين الإيرانيين الذين كانوا يعملون في مشروع توسيع محطة “جندر” لتوليد الطاقة الكهربائية جنوبي المدينة.
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/6512/Default.aspx
January 22nd, 2012, 12:06 pm
Revlon said:
426. irritated:
Revlon $423
((why is the FSA covering up this blunder as well as the police bus explosion that killed 14 prisoners (confirmed by the LCC)?))
I already addressed your point in an earlier reply to you.
I did post the LCC statement. It mentioned nothing about FSA bombing the bus.
You claimed the news was posted on Al jazeera.
I posted the related AlJazeera news and pointed out the you mis-read two consecutive paragraphs as belonging to the same source. They were not! Read them again.
If you still have doubt, pleas link to LCC statement that support your claim!
Cheers!
January 22nd, 2012, 12:07 pm
jad said:
Zabadani agreement between the people of Zabadani and the Army as shown on the Syrian TV:
بيان وجهاء الزبداني حول الاتفاق المبرم مع السلطة
http://youtu.be/iTZDh7vNY2U
أهالي الزبداني يتوصلون إلى اتفاق مع السلطة بشأن تطبيع الوضع الأمني في المدينة وما حولها
الاتفاق يتضمن إنهاء جميع المظاهر المسلحة من شوارع المدينة وما حولها وإطلاق سراح جميع المعتقلين ووقف المداهمات الأمنية
دمشق ، الحقيقة ـ( خاص) : أعلن في دمشق اليوم عن التوصل إلى اتفاق بين أهالي ووجهاء مدينة الزبداني في ريف دمشق من جهة ، والسلطة من جهة أخرى، لتطبيع الوضع الأمني في المدينة وما يتبعها بعد مواجهات مسلحة دامت بضعة أيام بين الجيش والقوى الأمنية من جهة ومئات المسلحين من المهربين وأصحاب السوابق الجنائية ، وبعض العسكريين الفارين، الذين يقاتلون جميعا تحت اسم “الجيش السوري الحر”، من جهة أخرى.
وقال بيان تلاه الشيخ محمود الدالاتي، وهو أحد وجهاء المدينة ، إن الاتفاق يتضمن إنهاء جميع المظاهر المسلحة من شوارع المدينة وما حولها ، وعدم إقامة الحواجز ، و وقف المداهمات التي تقوم بها أجهزة أمن السلطة ، وإطلاق سراح جميع المعتقلين من أبناء المدينة.
وبحسب ما جاء في البيان ( شاهد الشريط جانبا)، فإن الاتفاق تم برغبة الأهالي والقيادة لحقن الدماء والمحافظة على الممتلكات . وقد شكر الشيخ الدالاتي ما وصفه بـ”القيادة الحكيمة وعلى رأسها السيد الرئيس بشار الأسد” ، حسب تعبيره ، متمنيا المحافظة على الاتفاق من أجل الهدنة والاستقرار. وأشار الشيخ الدالاتي إلى أن الأهالي “لاعلاقة لهم بكل ما صدر عن وسائل الإعلام مما يخالف هذا الاتفاق”، في إشارة منه إلى صيغ من الاتفاق تداولتها وسائل إعلام عربية مثل “الجزيرة” و”العربية” و”الحوار” التي كانت روجت لنسخة من الاتفاق شبيهة بـ”صلح الحديبية” بين محمد وقريش ، ولا يمكن أن توقعها إلا سلطة منهارة تماما وعلى وشك الهرب!؟
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/6508/Default.aspx
January 22nd, 2012, 12:10 pm
irritated said:
Tara #430
Do you mean that 4 countries ( two of them Kuffar) were able to twist the hand of the overweight Salafists dictatorship of Qatar and Saudi Arabia?
January 22nd, 2012, 12:10 pm
Revlon said:
431. jad
((
وكشف المصدر أن المحطة ، التي تقع على ارتفاع أكثر من 1700 متر عن سطح البحر قريبا من دير “الشيروبيم” المقدس عن الطوائف المسيحية، كان لها دور فعال جدا في ” حرب تموز 2006″ ، حيث كانت تمد مقاتلي حزب الله بمعلومات إنذارية عن الغارات الإسرائيلية على لبنان فور إقلاع الطائرات الإسرائيلية من مطاراتها في فلسطين المحتلة ))
How come it did not give advance warning to Jr when Israeli planes broke the sound barrier over his head, and with it his placid vacation while in his palace in Lattakia?
January 22nd, 2012, 12:14 pm
Tara said:
Irritated
Your post does not deserve an answer from me. Read it. Think about it. Consult your family and about what is wrong with it Modify it. Then ask me again.
I just have low tolerance for twisted comment.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:15 pm
jad said:
No wonder, Qatar, France, KSA and the SNC are angry with Dhabi’s report, it’s even more damming to the lies and the terrorism done by the ‘angles’ than what the initial one:
From FB:
“Dhabi’s report :
* The report commends the decision of the presidential amnesty in Syria, one of the most important item in the protocol.
* Saudi Arabia withdraws its observers from the Committee on Arab Mission Observers in Syria.
* Insurgents in more than one region … exposure to government forces and government forces to armed gangs. … * foreign media was present and allowed to start working * various media entered in Syria. * observers were related to some countries and conveyed false information. * there is an error in the protocol: it should add a clause about the armed opposition after confirming its existence.
* التقرير يشيد بقرار العفو الرئاسي في سوريا وهو من اهم بند في البرتوكول .
* السعودية تسحب مراقبيها من لجنة بعثة المؤاقبة العربية في سوريا .
* المسلحون وفي اكثر من منطقة يبدؤن بالتعرض للقوات الحكومية والقوات الحكومية ترد .
… * المراقبون لمسوا ان الوسائل الاعلامية تواجدت في اكثر من منطقة .
* المراقبون لاحظو دخول وسائل اعلام مختلفة الي سوريا .
* من المراقبين من كان يتصل بدولته وينقل اخبار كاذبة .
* هناك عيب في البرتوكول حيث يجب اضافة بند حول المعارضة المسلحة بعد التاكد من وجودها .”
On top of that the report specify what kind of weapons used by the ‘angels’, I guess the ‘angels’ will target the observers now with their weapons…
أوضح تقرير بعثة المراقبين العرب الى سوريا، أن “مجموعات مسلحة إستخدمت القنابل الحرارية والقذائف المضادة ضد القوات الحكومية والمواطنين وعدد من المنشآت الخدماتية والاقتصادية”.
ولفت الى أن “بعض وسائل الإعلام شوهت الحقيقة في سوريا وفبركات الإعلام أدت الى زيادة الإحتقان”.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:20 pm
norman said:
The new Syrian constitution will be ready in few days and will set the president term for two terms only, i just hope that it will not set a specific religion for the president.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:23 pm
irritated said:
433. jad
I think the FSA is starting to be squeezed for money. Feeding 20,000-40,000 defected soldiers costs a lot. Also they have spent all the money they received from anti-regime Syrians expats and rich sympathizers to buy heavy weapons. The fall of the Syrian Lira is affecting them too as weapons are sold in dollars.
Now, after the blunder of the murder of the french journalist Jacquier, other unjustified attacks on civilians and the published graphic tortures inflicted on their prisonners are giving second thoughts to their supporters and the money is quickly drying up.
To sustain, they need to get paid for actions ordered by other enemies of Syria and of individuals wanting to settle personal accounts. Therefore I expected more attacks on individuals, banks, kidnappings and actions serving personal vendetta and enemies of Syria.
They are gradually turning into outlawed armed gangs.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:27 pm
Ghufran said:
If Zabadani remains calm and armed people leave the streets and political prisoners who did not committ violent crimes are released,then it is a success for all not just the opposition or the regime,both of which are supposed to serve the people not the other way around.
Posters who are angry because their party looks weak just do not understand that peace and freedom is the goal and not domination or a mirage victory.let us hope that Zabadani becomes a model,I am still hearing that the town is surrounded by troops,I wonder if anybody here can give up an update on the situation.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:28 pm
irritated said:
#438
“I just have low tolerance for twisted comment.”
So do I.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:32 pm
jad said:
“أعلن وزير الخارجية السعودي سعود الفيصل أن “السعودية قررت سحب مراقبيها من سوريا”.”
What a lost!
A recap of the report, I’m glad because this damming report will force many to get back to reality and realize that their covering of violence and the lies with damaging propaganda didn’t work, they must talk to the Syrian with logic and to stop those terrorists from destroying Syria and Syrian’s life….enough lies and killing, they used every dirty trick they could, if the SNC serious in caring for Syrians it must start a new strategy based on dignity, transparency, logic and solutions instead of this violence road that will destroy the society itself not the regime.
نقلاً عن تلفزيون الدنيا :بعض ما ورد في تقرير الدابي رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب
1) ” المعارضة المسلحة ” ضالعة بمقتل الصحفي الفرنسي جيل جاكييه
2) المسلحون وفي أكثر من منطقة يبدأون التعرض للقوات الحكومية وبعدها ترد هذه القوات
3) الحكومة السورية التزمت بتنفيذ البنود المطلوبة منها بسحب الآليات العسكرية وتجاوبت مع المراقبين في طلب سحب أي مظهر عسكري شاهدوه
4) المراقبون لمسوا أكثر من مرة مبالغات ” المعارضة ” حول أحداث بعينها
5) المراقبون لمسوا أن وسائل إعلام معينة تقوم بتضخيم الأحداث والمبالغة فيها بشكل يشوه الحقيقة
6) المراقبون لاحظوا دخول وسائل إعلام مختلفة إلى سورية
7) التقرير يشجب أداء وتصريحات ” بعض المراقبين ” الذين حنثوا بالقسم ونفذوا أجندات خاصة
8 من المراقبين من كان يتصل بدولته وينقل أخبارا كاذبة
9) هناك عيب في البروتوكول أنه لم يوجه إلى ضرورة وقف العنف من قبل ” المعارضة ”
10) يجب إضافة بند على البروتوكول حول ” المعارضة المسلحة ” بعد التأكد من وجودها
11) من يرعى الحملة المباشرة علاميا ضد اللجنة لم تكن نيته طيبة بإرسال اللجنة ولم تكن نيته إنقاذ سورية
12) التقرير يشيد بقرار العفو الرئاسي في سورية وهو أهم بند في البروتوكول
January 22nd, 2012, 12:32 pm
Ghufran said:
سعيد عقل
طالت نوىً ، وبكـى مـن شوقـه الوتـرُخذنـي بعينيـك واهــرب ايـهـا القـمـرُ
لم يبقَ في الليل الا الصوت مرتعشـاًالا الـحـمـائـم .. الا الـضـائــع الــزهـــرُ
لـي فيـك يــا بَــرَدى عـهـدٌ اعـيـش بــهعمـري .. ويسرقنـي مـن حبـه العـمـرُ
عهـد :كآخـر يـوم فـي الخـريـف بـكـىوصـاحـبــاك عـلـيــه الــريــح والـمــطــرُ
هنـا الترابـات مـن طـيـبٍ ومــن طــربٍوايـن فـي غيـر شـآم يطـرب الحجـرُ !
شــآم اهـلــوك احـبـابـي ، و مـوعـدنـاأواخــر الـصـيـف آن الـكــرمُ يعـتـصـرُ
نعـتّـق النغـمـات الـبـيـض ، نرشـقـهـايــوم الآمـاسـي بــلا خـمــرٌ ولا سـهــرُ
قد غبتُ عنهم ، ومالي في الغياب يدٌأنــا الـجـنـاحُ الـــذي يـنـأىبـه الـسـفـر
ياطـيـب الـقـلـب ياقـلـبـي ، تحمـلـنـيهَّـــم الأحـبــة إ غـابــوا ، وإ حـضــروا
شــآم ياابـنـة مـــاضٍ وحـاضــرٍ ابـــداًكأنـك السيـفُ مجـدُ والقـول يُختـصـرُ
حمـلـتِ دنـيـا علىكفـيـك ، فالتـفـتـت ..إليـك دنيـا ، وأغـضـى دونــك الـقـدرُ !
January 22nd, 2012, 12:33 pm
Ghufran said:
أكدت الرئاسة اليمنية بأن الرئيس اليمني علي عبدالله صالح غادر صنعاء إلى الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية للعلاج.
ووفقا لوكالة سبأ، فإن الرئيس اليمني طلب الصفح من الشعب قبيل مغادرته البلاد.
وكان صالح قدّم خطاباً وفقاً لوكالة الأنباء اليمنية “سبأ”، دعا فيه جميع الأطراف السياسية إلى الالتفاف حول بعضهم بعضاً، وإلى المصالحة والمصارحة وترميم وإصلاح ما دمر خلال الأحد عشر شهراً من العام الماضي.
وقال في حديثه للقنوات الفضائية اليمنية بحضور الأخ عبدربه منصور هادي، نائب رئيس الجمهورية المستشار السياسي لرئيس الجمهورية الدكتور عبدالكريم الإرياني: “إن ما حدث يوم أمس في مجلس النواب من إقرار قانون الحصانة وتزكية الأخ الفريق عبدربه منصور هادي نائب رئيس الجمهورية لرئاسة الجمهورية للفترة القادمة يعد إنجازاً طيباً”.
وأشار إلى أن المستفيد من قانون الحصانة ليس الرئيس وأقرباءه فحسب وإنما كل من عمل مع الرئيس خلال 33 عاماً.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:44 pm
Revlon said:
433. JAD
Thank you very much for linking to this very interesting video!
Arranging for Mr Dalati to provide a statement on AlIkhbariya AlSouriya by itself, to me, has some meanings:
– The regime has tactically lost Zabadani.
– Regime forces are not planning on a quick comeback.
– Regime is desparate to allay an ensuing fear amongst his forces of an impending collapse!
The statement has most likely been staged as a face saving announcement to provide a credible explanation for the regime’s preciptous withdrawal from Zabadani.
Who Mr Dalati is to the regime is anybody’s guess!
That senior gentleman was definitely not the one who destroyed Assad tanks in Zabadani.
He was not a member of the FSA fighting units in Zabadani either.
The regime did not negotiate with him or “Elders” of the city to have the permission to leave Zabadani; they did that with the FSA.
The regime has never made deals with free people; They only blackmail them into stating what the regime want.
The recent announcement of Mr Nawaf AlBasheer on Syrian media, which was proven by his later AlJazeera statements to have been taken under coercion is a fresh case in point.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:49 pm
Fearful said:
My biggest fear for Syria is that it will go Iraq’s way. And I don’t mean a foreign invasion. I mean: 12+ years of sanctions that only hurt people + half-ass “no-fly” zone, followed by an ill-conceived and badly-executed invasion, followed by civil war, followed by insecure, corrupt and unstable democracy. 20+ years of suffering for an entire nation as the world lives on.
The way the regime, the opposition and the world are all behaving today will lead to this worst-case scenario.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:55 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Revlon
Ignore Irritated, he is a nonsense guy, have very low intelligence ,never has important thought, He does not worth it, let him bark.
January 22nd, 2012, 12:59 pm
irritated said:
MajedAlkhadoon #447
As if any one cared about your advices, your sectarianism, your admiration for violence, your repeated wishes for a civil war or your failed predictions.
Contrary to you, I am a low intelligence kuffar.
January 22nd, 2012, 1:29 pm
defender said:
Mahdi Darius NAZEMROAYA (Canada) | 22.01.2012 |
Where Syria is Situated in the National Security Concerns of Iran and Russia
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2012/01/22/eurasian-triple-entente-touch-iran-war-hear-russia-china.html
Russia and China with Iran are all staunchly supporting Syria. The diplomatic and economic siege against Syria is tied to the geo-political stakes to control Eurasia. The instability in Syria is tied to the objective of combating Iran and ultimately turning it into a U.S. partner against Russia and China.
The cancelled or delayed deployment of thousands of U.S. troops to Israel for Austere Challenge 2012 was tied to ratcheting up the pressure against Syria. On the basis of a Voice of Russia report segments of the Russian media erroneously reported that Austere Challenge 2012 were going to be held in the Persian Gulf, which was mistakenly picked up by news outlets in other parts of the world. This helped highlight the Iranian link at the expense of the Syrian and Lebanese links. The deployment of U.S. troops was aimed predominately at Syria as a means of isolating and combating Iran. Speculatively, the cancelled or delayed Israeli-U.S. missile exercises probably included preparations for missile and rocket attacks not only from Iran, but also from Syria, Lebanon, and the Palestinian Territories.
Aside from its naval ports in Syria, Russia does not want to see Syria used to re-route the energy coordinators in the Caspian Basin and the Mediterranean Basin. If Syria should fall these routes would be resynchronized to reflect a new geo-political reality. At the expense of Iran, energy from the Persian Gulf could also be re-routed to the Mediterranean through both Lebanon and Syria in the Levant.
January 22nd, 2012, 1:34 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
Syrian Talibans:
Revlon is driving
Tara is giving her daughter a ride to see her ancestors heritage
Khaled is pushing
Majedkaldon will just swim in Colorado and watch
Infidel thighs again:
January 22nd, 2012, 1:40 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
Sorry,this is the Syrian Talibans show starring
Revlon stalin ,and Tara :
January 22nd, 2012, 1:54 pm
Revlon said:
أخبار جبلة الأدهمية
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=217168838372391&set=a.115321745223768.24241.115319005224042&type=1
22.01.2012
لماذا نرفض التمديد لبعثة الجامعة العربية؟ ولماذا نعتبر هذا التمديد شراء للوقت من قبل الجامعة ومساهمة منها في قتل السوريين؟
ليس هذا الموقف منا نتيجة عدمية في التفكير، أو عدم وضوح في الرؤية السياسية! بل هو نتيجة لقراءة بسيطة لمضمون البرتوكول الموقع بين الجامعة والنظام اللاشرعي في دمشق.
بعثة الجامعة لها مهمة واضحة ومحددة: وهي مراقبة التزام النظام بالبنود المتفق عليها، وعليها أن تجيب بتقريرها عن س…ؤال محدد: هل التزام النظام بهذه البنود أم لا!
رغم أن أي مراقب للوضع يعرف الجواب مسبقاً، ولم يكن المراقبون بحاجة إلى أكثر من خمسة أيام ليكملوا تقريرهم، إلا أن شهراً كانت كافية بكل تأكيد لأقل الفرق احترافاً في العالم لتكتب تقريراً يجيب عن هذا السؤال البسيط!
شهر كامل: ازدادت معدلات القتل خارج نطاق القانون من قبل العصابة، لم تغادر الآليات العسكرية الشوارع، لم تدخل وسائل الإعلام….
فلأي شيء يريدون شهراً إضافياً للمراقبين؟
January 22nd, 2012, 1:59 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
@IRRITATED 439
This attack has been under debate, who did it and why. Yes, you are right and that is obvious. I mean, the attack on the Sig station is paid for mission or a preparation for Phase II. It goes hand in hand with last week visit by Americans to Klailat Air Base in Tripoli. It is the old Rumsfeld 2005 Syria-Lebanon Blue Print at work.
Again, you can see conflicting interests in extending Arab mission and not going to the U.N. directly with resolution mandating reforms under chapter 7 threats, which will quickly bring resolution to the Syria crises with the least damage to the country. Extending the Arab league mission, will extend the Bathist regime life for few months, but will be detrimental to Syria if this conflict prolonged for another year, at which time someone will move for the kill at this Weakling State. That is not going to be the FSA,that is going to be another State. A U.N. resolution as described will insure Syrian interests and bring in Syrian leaders for a transition.
January 22nd, 2012, 2:03 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Most of the elites in Damascus fighting for defending the regime and the status quo are people who belonged to communist or socialist parties in the past, or still belong to the Baath Socialist Panarabist Party. In some cases the elites are the sons and daughters of those described above. These people who were socialists and communists, now own huge amounts of money, bussinesses, factories, monopolies, etc. They now belong to the new neo-capitalist syrian corrupt regime. Maybe all they have have been reached through corruption but still they try to believe themselves as the liberators of the syrian people. They are out of reality. Those old socialists and communists turned corrupt neo-capitalists have one thing clear, they have to defend their status, properties and money and the people – that is supposed in socialism or in democratic capitalism to be the owner of power – is always wrong cheated by international conspiracies.
Some days ago I received the call from an elite member, palestinian and supposed communist, but owner of a huge project in Damascus. He attacked the international conspiracy against the regime, defender of the people. The people starving in rural areas while the dress in gold.
January 22nd, 2012, 2:04 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
@452 SANDRO
Right on the money, your post hit the nail on the head. That is why we need more urgent U.N. resolution that is reform-centric that can dislodge these thieves and thieves kids and strip them out of the stolen wealth they horded before they escape or divested like Asma doing.
January 22nd, 2012, 2:10 pm
jad said:
اللجنة الوزارية العربية توصي بتمديد بعثة المراقبين في سوريا لشهر واحد
العربي: تقرير المراقبين يشير إلى سيطرة مسلحين على أحياء سكنية .. واقترح تمديد مهمتها ودعمها ماليا وإعلاميا وسياسيا
رئيس وزراء قطر: هناك حاجة إلى إجراء مراجعة شاملة لعمل بعثة مراقبي جامعة الدول العربية إلى سوريا والنظر فيما توصلت إليه من نتائج
أشار الأمين العام لجامعة الدول العربية، نبيل العربي، اليوم الأحد، إلى أن هناك أحياء سكنية أصبحت تحت سيطرة معارضين مسلحين ومن بينهم عناصر مسلحة “غير نظامية”، لافتا إلى أن القرار بتمديد مهمة المراقبين لا بد وأن يرافقه إعادة النظر بطبيعة مهمتها، بينما أكد رئيس وزراء قطر حمد بن جاسم آل ثاني أن اللجنة الوزارية العربية ستطلب من الجامعة تمديد بعثة المراقبين في سوريا لشهر واحد، وذلك في وقت أوضح فيه تقرير المراقبين وجود عنصر مسلح غير مخاطب بالبرتوكول، مبينا أنه يجب العمل على إطلاق حوار وطني لإنجاح عمل البعثة..
وقال العربي، خلال مؤتمر صحفي مشترك مع رئيس الوزراء القطري عقب اجتماع اللجنة الوزارية العربية المعنية بالشأن السوري، إن “ما يزيد من صعوبة المهمة المكلف بها المراقبون العرب هو أن هناك شوارع وأحياء سكنية أصبحت خارج سيطرة الحكومة السورية وتحت سيطرة المعارضة ومن بينها عناصر مسلحة غير نظامية”.
وأضاف العربي أن “الأجهزة السورية تتعامل مع الأزمة على أنها أمنية فقط وهو ما يفسر عدم التزام الحكومة السورية بجميع تعهداتها، وهناك تقدم جزئي في تنفيذ التعهدات لكن لا يمكن القول أن الحكومة السورية نفذت ما هو عليها حتى الآن”، لافتا إلى أن “كل ذلك يضيف صعوبات كثيرة على مهمة المراقبين وتضع على عاتقهم أعباء ميدانية كثيرة من بينها أعباء إنسانية”.
وعقد يوم الأحد، في القاهرة اجتماع اللجنة الوزارية العربية المعنية بالأزمة السورية المخصص لبحث مصير بعثة المراقبين العرب في سورية، في ضوء تقرير رئيسها الفريق أول محمد احمد الدابي، وذلك بعدما تم تأجيل الاجتماع من يوم السبت إلى اليوم، حيث سيلي انعقاد اللجنة اجتماع لمجلس الوزراء العرب لبحث تقرير بعثة المراقبين واتخاذ قرارات حول الخطوات القادمة لوقف العنف فيها.
وأوضح العربي أن “القرار بتمديد مهمة المراقبين العرب لابد أن يرافقه إعادة النظر بطبيعة مهمتها والمهام الموكولة إليها وتوفير الإمكانيات لها”، موضحا “كما أن التمديد بدون الاتفاق على مسار سياسي لمعالجة الأزمة في سورية سيكون لها آثار سلبية على مصداقية التحرك العربي”.
وقال إن “تقرير رئيس بعثة المراقبين في سورية يغطي فقط الفترة من 29 كانون الأول إلى 18 كانون الثاني، ولا يتعرض إلى الفترة السابقة”، واقترح تمديد عمل المراقبين في سورية ودعمهم ماليا وسياسيا وإعلاميا.
من جانبه، قال رئيس وزراء قطر، حمد بن جاسم آل ثاني، إن “اللجنة الوزارية العربية المعنية بالشأن السوري، ستطلب من جامعة الدول العربية التمديد لبعثة المراقبين العرب في سوريا لشهر واحد”.
وأكد حمد بن جاسم، رئيس الدورة الحالية لمجلس الجامعة على المستوى الوزاري أمام اجتماع المجلس الوزاري في دورته غير العادية، الحاجة إلى إجراء مراجعة شاملة لعمل بعثة مراقبي جامعة الدول العربية إلى سوريا والنظر فيما توصلت إليه من نتائج، لافتا إلى أن من بين الخيارات إرسال قوات عربية إليها و الذهاب إلى مجلس الأمن.
وأوضح المسؤول القطري “أهمية رؤية ما إذا كانت هذه النتائج مقنعة لجعلها تستمر على حالها هذا أم أن ضرورات الواقع تستدعي خيارات أخرى”، مشيرا إلى أن “من بين هذه الخيارات الخيار الذي طرحه أمير قطر الشيخ حمد بن خليفة آل ثاني والذي يدعو إلى إرسال قوات حفظ سلام عربية إلى سوريا لوقف دائرة العنف من جانب الحكومة والعنف المضاد من جانب المعارضة الذي جاء كرد فعل للدفاع عن النفس بعد عدة أشهر من أعمال العنف المسلح من جانب الحكومة لكي يتسنى بعد ذلك تنفيذ المبادرة العربية لحل الأزمة”.
وكان أمير قطر حمد بن خليفة آل ثاني اقترح السبت الماضي إرسال قوات عربية إلى سورية لوقف ما أسماه “نزيف الدماء”، في تصريحات هي الأولى من نوعها التي يدلي بها زعيم عربي بهذا الخصوص.
وتابع رئيس الوزراء القطري “ومن الخيارات الأخرى الذهاب إلى مجلس الأمن الدولي لعرض قرارات الجامعة التي اتخذت بشأن الوضع في سوريا على هذه المنظمة الدولية لمشاركتنا الجهد في إنهاء هذه الأزمة ولإعطاء تلك القرارات الزخم والدعم الدوليين”، مؤكدا أن “الهدف من بعثة المراقبين لم يقصد به إعطاء أي طرف من أطراف الأزمة السورية فرصة لكسب الوقت وإنما كان بغرض وقف العنف والقتل وحقن الدماء”.
وبدأت بعثة المراقبين التابعة لجامعة الدول العربية مهامها في سورية في 27 كانون الأول الماضي بزيارة مدينة حمص, حيث قام عدد من المراقبين بزيارة أحياء من المدينة, فيما توزعت فرق المراقبين قي وقت لاحق على درعا وحماه وادلب ودمشق وريفها والسويداء وغيرها..
إلى ذلك، وافقت اللجنة على أن يتم إرسال عدد كاف من المراقبين لتغطية المناطق السورية، مؤكدة ضرورة أن يكون المراقبون على درجة عالية من الكفاءة والتدريب على عمليات المراقبة والرصد في المناطق الساخنة بالأراضي السورية وأن يتم تدريبهم بالتعاون مع الأمم المتحدة.
وعقدت اللجنة الوزارية المعنية بالملف السوري اجتماعا مغلقا في القاهرة منذ نحو أسبوعين، لمناقشة التقرير الأولي لبعثة المراقبين, حيث أقرت أن هناك “تقدم جزئي” في تنفيذ التزامات تعهدت بها الحكومة السورية بموجب خطة العمل العربية، إلا أنها دعت الحكومة السورية إلى التنفيذ الفوري والكامل لجميع تعهداتها، وقررت في الوقت ذاته منح بعثة المراقبين الحيز الزمني الكافي لاستكمال مهمتها.
في سياق متصل، أشار تقرير بعثة مراقبي جامعة الدول العربية، الذي نشرته وسائل إعلام، إلى وجود عنصر مسلح غير مخاطب بالبروتوكول على الأراضي السورية، وأن اعتداء هذا العنصر على القوى الأمنية والمواطنين يأتي كـ “رد فعل”، مطالبا بدعم المراقبين سياسيا وماليا ولوجستيا، والعمل على إطلاق حوار وطني من إنجاح عمل البعثة، كما بيّن أن المعارضة رحبت بالمراقبين فيما لوحظ أن هناك تجاوبا من الجانب الحكومي.
وقال التقرير انه “ثبت للبعثة وجود عنصر مسلح غير مخاطب بالبروتوكول وهو لا شك تطور ظهر على الأرض نتيجة الاستخدام المفرط للقوة من قبل القوات الحكومية قبل انتشار البعثة عند التصدي للاحتجاجات التي طالبت بسقوط النظام”، على حد تعبيره.
وأضاف التقرير “ويعتدي هذا العنصر في بعض القطاعات على القوى الأمنية السورية وعلى المواطنين كرد فعل”، مشيرا إلى أن هذا “يواجه أيضا برد فعل حكومي عنيف يدفع ثمنه المواطنون الأبرياء ويؤدي إلى سقوط عدد من القتلى والجرحى”.
وذكر التقرير “كما لاحظت البعثة منذ انتشارها داخل سوريا أن المعارضة رحبت بها وبأعضائها وكان هناك اطمئنان من جانب المواطنين لتواجد البعثة باستثناء الفترة التي أعقبت صدور بيان اللجنة الوزارية في الثامن من كانون الأول الجاري وما شهدته من أحداث خفت حدتها تدريجيا”.
وتابع التقرير “كما لاحظت البعثة أن هناك تجاوبا من الجانب الحكومي لإنجاح مهمتها ولم تفرض أية قيود على تحرك البعثة كما استشعرت البعثة في بعض المدن حالة من الاحتقان الشديد والظلم والقهر الذي يعاني منه المواطنون السوريون وهناك اقتناع لديهم بضرورة حل الأزمة السورية بصورة سلمية وفي الإطار العربي دون تدويل حتى يتمكنوا من العيش بسلام وأمان”.
وأوصت بعثة مراقبي جامعة الدول العربية بضرورة تدعيم البعثة بجوانب إدارية ولوجستية تمكنها من القيام بواجباتها، وبتوفير الدعم الإعلامي والسياسي للبعثة لخلق مناخ موات يساهم في انجاز المهمة.
كما طلبت البعثة في توصياتها التي عرضها الأمين العام للجامعة العربية الدكتور نبيل العربي في تقرير التعجيل بالعملية السياسية وانطلاق الحوار الوطني بالتوازي مع مهمة البعثة من أجل توفير مناج من الثقة يساعد في إنجاح مهمة البعثة ويحول دون إطالة أمد بقائها في سوريا دون جدوى.
وأوضح التقرير أن “البعثة أكدت أن التفجيرات التي طالت بعض المباني وخطوط الأنابيب والقطارات وقوات الشرطة هي أعمال تبنى بعضها تنظيم الجيش الحر والآخر من جهات مسلحة تابعة للمعارضة”، مؤكدة أن “المدة الزمنية لعمل البعثة والمحددة بشهر لا تكفي للتحضيرات الإدارية وأنها أكملت فقط 23 يوم عمل حتى تاريخه وهذا يتطلب مد عملها “.
وأشار التقرير إلى أن “إنهاء عمل البعثة بعد هذه الفترة القصيرة سيقضي على النتائج الايجابية التي تحققت حتى الآن وسينتهي الأمر ربما إلى فوضى على الأرض طالما أن جميع أطراف الأزمة غير جاهزين ولا مؤهلين حتى الآن للعملية السياسية المتعلقة بمعالجة الأزمة السورية “.
وحدد التقرير الاحتياجات الأساسية للبعثة في حال التجديد لها وهي عدد 100 مراقب من العناصر الشابة” ويفضل العسكريون منهم” وعدد 30 سيارة مصفحة وسترات واقية خفيفة وأجهزة تصوير محمولة على السيارات وأجهزة اتصال حديثة ومناظير ميدان ليلية ونهارية.
كما طلب التقرير زيادة الموارد المالية للبعثة خمسة أضعاف لتبلغ خمسة ملايين دولار بدلا من مليون دولار حتى تتمكن البعثة من القيام بمهامها.
http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=143034
January 22nd, 2012, 2:36 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
454 JAD,
Is one month the time needed by Assad to kill all insurgents and their neighbours?
Or is one month the time needed by AL delegation to realize that they are not going to realize what is going on?
January 22nd, 2012, 2:43 pm
jad said:
Getting money for buying weapons from the wealthy in Alnabek through steeling and kidnapping:
خاص عربي برس- هكذا تموّل الثورة في مدينة النبك السورية
عشرات عمليات الاختطاف ومئات عملية سطو مسلح استهدفت أفراد وممتلكات من بيوت وسيارات في مدينة النبك ومحيطها من يبرود والسحل و ألدون وغيرها من مدن القلمون، إلا أن أغلب عمليات الاختطاف استهدفت أثرياء مدينة النبك في القلمون السوري،ومحطات الوقود بالإضافة إلى سيارات فخمة تتم مقايضتها لاحقاً بمبالغ تتجاوز مئات الألوف وأحياناً الملايين.
سجلت شبكة اخبار النبك على شبكة الانترنت حالات اعتداء جسدي على المخطوفين دون سقوط ضحايا، كما وثقت أولى حالات الخطف و الاعتداء في 28-10-2011.
وازدادت عمليات السطو على الأفراد وممتلكات الدولة،خلال الشهر الماضي، حتى أن كابلات الهاتف المحورية في النبك لم تسلم من النهب وتم سرقتها ست مرات متتالية علماً بأن قيمتها تتجاوز الثلاثة ملايين ليرة سورية.
ويؤكد أحد أعضاء مجلس مدينة النبك أن عمليات السطو تتم عن طريق عصابات مسلحة تتمركز في فليطة وغيرها من المناطق الحدودية في القلمون السوري والتي يشهد لها تهريب السلاح والمخدرات منذ سنوات مضت ويضيف العضو أنه يملك وثائق تؤكد تهريب السلاح بكثرة خلال عشر شهور مضت عن طريق عصابات يقودها المجرم الدولي أبو العباس الذي سبق وسجنته الحكومة السورية ثم أفرجت عنه في بداية الاحداث المسلحة في سورية وشمله العفو الأول و يقال أنه يملك السيطرة على منافذ التهريب في المنطقة هو و جماعته.
وأشارت السيدة سحر مسكة عضو مجلس المدينة أن الاعتداءات اليومية تتزامن مع انقطاع التيار الكهربائي في المساء، ووصلت إلى حد أقلق الأهالي بشكل كبير وخصوصاً عندما طالت عمليات الخطف نساء القلمون وأطفالها وتعرض بعض شبابها لإطلاق نار أثناء قيادتهم لسياراتهم بهدف الاستيلاء عليها ومقايضتها لاحقاً بمبالغ تتجاوز مئات الألوف حتى أن المدينة شهدت اختطاف احد أثريائها وهو أبو قاسم البطل وطلب خاطفوه مبلغ خمسة عشرة مليون ليرة سورية مقابل تسليمه لعائلته.
ودرءً للمزيد من الحوادث عقد المجلس البلدي وأثريائها اتفاقاً مع رئيس مفرزة النبك العقيد نايف فدعوس لتشكيل لجان حماية للمدينة تقوم بدوريات مسلحة مشتركة مع عناصر من الأمن ومنحتهم تفويضاً باعتقال أو قتل أي مسلح معتدي في المنطقة بشرط وجود عنصر الأمن معهم.
اجمع اهالي النبك على طلب واحد قدموه إلى عميد في الأمن الداخلي وهو شخصية يثق بها مجلس المدينة وتضمن الطلب تسليح لجان حماية النبك، بالإضافة لطلب نقل مجموعة عناصر أمنية يشهد لها بالتقاعس وربما التآمر مع العصابات المسلحة وبالفعل لبى العميد طلبهم ونقل ثمانية عناصر تدور حولهم التساؤلات.
كما أمر العميد بإرسال مئة عنصر من عناصر الأمن لدعم اللجان الأهلية مع ستة عشر سيارة أمن تقوم بسد منافذ النبك، وشدد الاهالي على أهمية أن تقتصر مهمة اللجان على حفظ الأمن في المنطقة فقط بغض النظر عن الاعتبارات السياسية أو التعرض للمظاهرات أو المنشورات السياسية كما اعتادت أن تفعل اللجان الشعبية سابقاً.
وجمع أهالي النبك مبلغ مليون ليرة سورية من المغتربين في الخليج وأثرياء النبك بهدف تسليح اللجان وتأمين معيشة العناصر المنتمية اليها .
ويوجه أهالي النبك متمثلةً بمجلسها البلدي نداءً إلى السلطات لتقديم المعونة لحماية المنطقة وكف يد الفساد فيها ويقترح أحد أعضاء مجلس المدينة استصلاح الاراضي الحدودية التي يقطنها المسلحون بهدف ردعهم عن عمليات تهريب المازوت والسلاح و المخدرات كخطوة لاحقة.
بينما فكك رجال الامن عبوة ناسفة قبل انفجارها كانت مزروعة قرب نفق السحل على الطريق الدولي في القلمون مساء الثلاثاء17-1-2012 ، وتعد أولى العبوات الناسفة التي اكتشفت في المنطقة،ولم تشهد النبك مظاهرات ضد النظام السوري و لم تسجل سابقاً إلا حالة اعتداء واحدة استهدفت أحد رجالات الأمن المدرب الرياضي عهد الشاقي ومساعديه عصمت الأديب ومحمد عز الدين في كمين دبر لهم على مفرق العرقوب أدت إلى مقتلهم.
أثرياء النبك يمولون الثورة؟
يعتقد السيد محي الدين ريا ماجستير في إدارة الأعمال وأحد وجهاء النبك أن عمليات السطو تستهدف إرهاق أهالي النبك مادياً وخصوصاً بعد تردد الأقاويل عن تمويل أثريائها للقائمين على الثورة السورية وتبنيها لعشرات العائلات الحمصية المنكوبة، و أن الإجرام المتسارع في المنطقة مرتبط بالتمويل الكبير الذي يقوم يقدمه الأهالي للثورة.
وأضاف أن سقوط النظام الأمني في النبك التي لم يخرج فيها مظاهرات ضد نظام الحكم يعد دليلاً على أن هناك من يبتز المتمولين وحين لا يدفعون ما هو مطلوب دفعه للثورة ينتقم بعض المسلحين منهم لتخويفهم.
وفي سياق منح الرخصة المجانية التي منحها الأهل للجان الحماية الأهلية لقتل المسلحين، ربما هي رد الاثرياء على المسلحين الذين يريدون ابتزازهم .
أحد معارضي النظام في النبك يقول أنه لا فائدة من إلغاء المحاكم الميدانية أو ما يسمى بقانون الطوارئ في سبيل أن تأخذ المحاكم الشرعية دورها،وخصوصاً بعد استخدام مئة عنصر مسلح في خدمة اللجان الأهلية ستشرع القتل في الشوارع.
http://www.arabi-press.com/?page=article&id=18743
January 22nd, 2012, 2:46 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
I think we need a speech from Asma Al Assad. The rose of the desert would give a new air to this arab spring. She is so charming that when she appears in Dunia Tv speaking about her future programs for children and poor women in Nabak or Raqqa there will be a change in the hearts and minds of the syrian people. In order to avoid misunderstandings she should not talk about tortures that are taking place under his husband control.
January 22nd, 2012, 2:46 pm
jad said:
After Yasin 7aj Sale7 another wake up call about the cheap propaganda and lies of the SNC from Mohamad Alabdallah:
Mohammad Al Abdallah
مع كل تقديري وإحترامي لمن ظهر في هذا الفيديو، لا أرى الفكرة من الفيديو إلا بروباغندا رخيصة ومخجلة في الاتجاه المعاكس. لا أعتقد إننا بحاجة لتصوير فيديو سخيف بهذا الشكل لدفع تهم باطلة عنا… نفسي أعرف من الفهمان صاحب فكرة هذا الفيديو السخيف.
ليس المطلوب من المجلس الوطني أو أعضاءه أن يصوموا عن الطعام أو “يعيشوا بعل” ليثبتوا وطنيتهم، المطلوب فقط هو أخذ الأمور بدرجة أكبر من الجدية والمسؤولية والعمل الجاد والصادق لصالح الثورة، وهذا لا أراه متحققاً عند عدد كبير من أعضاء المجلس للأسف!!!
غداء المجلس الوطني السوري في القاهرة 21-1-2012
http://youtu.be/6fn7gdMno34
And a special call to stop LYING:
Mohammad Al Abdallah
يا شباب، رجاء حار التوقف عن نشر الخبر المتعلق بوجود ٣٠٠ مقاتل من حزب الله يستعدون لاقتحام الزبداني… الخبر غير دقيق وإعادة توزيعه يضر بمصداقيتنا ويسيء للثورة.
الشيء بالشيء يذكر، عند وصول بعثة المراقبين العرب، ساهم عشرات الشباب بتوزيع خبر يتحدث عن نقل المعتقلين إلى حاويات وتحميلها على سفن أمام الشواطئ السورية والخبر كما اتضح كان عار عن الصحة.
مثل هذه الإشاعات تضرنا كثيراً ودفعت الإعلام إلى التباطؤ في نشر أخبار الثورة وهذا لن يكون في صالحنا بتاتاً.
January 22nd, 2012, 2:53 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
AL so far did not extend the observers for another month,they are still meeting, with KSA withdrawing the support,and possibly Qatar will do the same, financially one month extension will not happen.I believe Egypt will follow KSA as they depend on KSA financially,
Ghufran said yesterday that syrian pound is 62 lira, the report today the dollar is 90, Ghufran can you find out please.if 90 is correct, this means the economic collapse is imminent.
January 22nd, 2012, 2:55 pm
jad said:
Terrorists are firing RPG from a residential building roof, don’t they know that they are using people living in the neighbourhood as human shields for such terrorist acts and putting innocents people under the danger of retaliation. That is not a defensive act, yet the KSA prince is all ‘humanitarian’ and for ‘democracy’ so he withdrew his observers because the report is showing the truth!
مسلحين يستهدفون حاجز البياضة بقذائف اربجي 22 1 2012 شبكة عاجل
http://youtu.be/Z-Wv60tS86I
سعودية الحرية والديمقراطية ..تتكلم
http://youtu.be/6GlmPtJJe8Q
January 22nd, 2012, 3:01 pm
Tara said:
Colleagues blame Syria for French reporter’s death
BY FRANK JORDANS
ASSOCIATED PRESS
GENEVA — Two Swiss journalists said Sunday that Syrian authorities were to blame for the death of award-winning French TV reporter Gilles Jacquier, who was killed earlier this month in the restive city of Homs.
The 43-year-old correspondent for France-2 Television was the first Western journalist to die since the uprising began in March. Syrian authorities have said he was killed in a grenade attack carried out by opposition forces – a claim questioned by the French government, human rights groups and the Syrian opposition.
Patrick Vallelian of the weekly L’Hebdo and Sid Ahmed Hammouche of the daily La Liberte newspaper, who were with Jacquier the day he died, said they believed the attack was part of an elaborate trap set up by Syrian authorities.
“It felt like it was all planned in advance,” Vallelian told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.
He described how a group of foreign journalists including Jacquier were on their way to visit a hospital in Homs on Jan. 11 when their escort of Syrian soldiers and intelligence officials ordered them to make an unscheduled stop to interview traders in a pro-government part of the city.
Shortly afterward, an explosion was heard and soldiers told the foreign journalists to run to the detonation site to film what had happened, Vallelian said.
While Jacquier and others went to the site, Vallelian and Hammouche said they stayed behind, suspicious of the fact that the soldiers were encouraging journalists to move toward, not away, from the danger zone.
Hammouche, who speaks Arabic, said it appeared the soldiers had known in advance that the attack was going to happen. Plainclothes intelligence officials even predicted the site of a subsequent explosion before it occurred, he said.
“For me, it was a trap,” said Hammouche.
According to the two Swiss journalists, other incidents that followed the attack also point to government involvement. These included the theft of Jacquier’s notes on meetings with opposition supporters, and remarkably consistent accounts of the attack given by pro-government figures who weren’t present when it happened.
Vallelian said he plans to meet next week with French police. Paris prosecutors have launched a preliminary murder investigation into Jacquier’s death.
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/22/2602156/colleagues-blame-syria-for-french.html
January 22nd, 2012, 3:02 pm
jad said:
Patrick Vallelian
“It felt like it was all planned in advance”
I believe, I feel and I blame won’t change the fact that the usual terrorist of Homs did shoot the mortars and killed 8 Syrians along the french journalist, even the TV2 documentary linked by Haytham earlier couldn’t hide it, it’s beyond stupid Mr. Patrick to keep defending terrorists unless you are one of them.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:17 pm
Tara said:
#462
Far from true.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:20 pm
jad said:
Tara
Mind your own business.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:22 pm
jad said:
The Arab committee are asking the Syrians to form a national unity government and elections, a better start:
اللجنة العربية طالبت الأسد بتكليف نائبه لتشكيل حكومة مع المعارضة
نقلت قناة الجزيرة” عن وزراء الخارجية العرب، انهم “يناقشون في إجتماعهم المنعقد مشروع قرار يطالب بوقف العنف في سوريا، وان مشروع القرار المقترح يتضمن الدعوة لإنتخابات لجمعية تأسيسية”.
وأشار البيان الصادر عن اللجنة الى أن “الوزراء العرب يكررون المطالبة بتفعيل العقوبات ضد سوريا ان لم توقف العنف من دون تحديد متى أو كيف”. وطالبت اللجنة العربية الرئيس السوري بشار الاسد “بتشكيل حكومة مع المعارضة وتكليف نائبه لتشكيلها”. كما دعت الى تشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية ثم التحقيق في العنف”.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:24 pm
Tara said:
976 killed by the regime since the start of the AL’s mission, including 28 students and 54 children and 14 students per the LCC.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:30 pm
Tara said:
Sorry, that was 28 women, to those who care about women rights.
I think staying alive is the very basic of rights for men or women..Not in the book of the Syrian regime or it’s supporters.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:33 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Things are getting very complicated, and now the regime seems to succed in giving the image of a confrontation with mafia-conspiracy-style armed gangs.
Please just reset and ask yourself:
WHEN CIVILIANS TOOK THE STREETS ON MARCH AND APRIL 2.011 ASKING FOR FREEDOM AND REGIME CHANGE WHO SHOOT AT THEM AND KILLED HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF THEM?
THEN THE RESISTENCE MOVEMENT WAS ARMED AND ORGANIZED AS A SELF DEFENCE AGAINST ASSAD KILLING MACHINE IN PLACES LIKE HOMS, HAMA, IDLIB, DARAA OR ZABADANI.
Please on the way do not forget this. This is real facts that will be written in history books.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:36 pm
jad said:
“A SELF DEFENCE” Sure!
Don’t forget to add these acts in the history books too:
Blowing buses
Blowing gas lines
Blowing trains
Blowing cars
Blowing schools
Blowing an orphanage
Blowing ‘journalists’
All these acts of terrorism and killing people are ‘A SELF DEFENCE’ too? Very convincing!
January 22nd, 2012, 3:44 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
WHEN CIVILIANS TOOK THE STREETS ON MARCH AND APRIL 2.011 ASKING FOR FREEDOM AND REGIME CHANGE WHO SHOOT AT THEM AND KILLED HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF THEM?
THEN THE RESISTENCE MOVEMENT WAS ARMED AND ORGANIZED AS A SELF DEFENCE AGAINST ASSAD KILLING MACHINE IN PLACES LIKE HOMS, HAMA, IDLIB, DARAA OR ZABADANI.
British Ecyclopaedia
Article written on 15 March 2.014
January 22nd, 2012, 3:46 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Blowing schools
Blowing an orphanage
Blowing ‘journalists’
We have no rational way of proving who blew orphanages, schools and journalists. But let say that all rational evidencies, from a judicial and criminal point of view, indicate Assad as main suspect. He would even get suicided with three shots in his back if this could guarantee the regime survival.
January 22nd, 2012, 3:50 pm
ann said:
Bloody attacks targeting military personnel, and civilians across Syria – 2012-01-22
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/22/c_131373465.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 22 (Xinhua) — An armed terrorist group opened fire Sunday at a an army officer’s car in one of Damascus suburbs, killing two officers and injuring four army personnel, the state- run SANA news agency.
Brigadier Hasan Abdullah Ibrahim and first Lieutenant Yamin Khadour were killed while driving to the Electronic War department at Talfita area, just outside Damascus, said SANA, adding that another lieutenant colonel was injured along with three other army personnel who were riding with the brigadier.
The deadly attack came almost an hour after 11 people were killed in an attack targeting a passenger bus in central Homs province, according to private media reports.
The bus was transporting 14 passengers, including military personnel, when it came under fire, the report said, adding that three passengers managed to escape the gunfire and hide in a nearby storage, but were badly wounded.
The attack occurred at al-Fakhoura roundabout in Homs, when the bus was starting its trip to Damascus. Military personnel were among the injured, the report said.
Meanwhile, a law-enforcement member was killed and two civilians were wounded when an explosive device “planted by terrorists” went off near a military gas station in southern Daraa province on Sunday, according to SANA.
In another incident Sunday, a civilian worker at the traffic police department in Homs was killed and a law-enforcement member was injured when an armed group targeted a mini bus near the military hospital in the restive province.
The head of the so-called Syrian Free Army, a group of alleged army defectors who were given refuge in Turkey, has recently pledged to carry out attacks against army bases across Syria.
The Syrian government has blamed the incident as well as many others on terrorists and foreign-backed armed gangs.
January 22nd, 2012, 4:09 pm
ann said:
Head of AL observer mission in Syria asks for grace period – 2012-01-22
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/22/c_131373577.htm
CAIRO, Jan. 22 (Xinhua) — Head of the Arab League (AL) observer mission in Syria Moustafa al-Dabi asked for one more month for the mission to complete its duty in Syrian cities, an Arab League official told Xinhua on Sunday.
Dabi’s remarks came after a closed-door meeting held by the Arab ministerial committee on the Syrian crisis in Cairo to discuss the final report about the mission’s performance in Syria.
“They discussed the report and achievements the observers have got during the meeting. After that Dabi asked to give his team one more month to complete their mission in Syria,” said the official who required anonymity.
The meeting was chaired by Qatari Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani and attended by foreign ministers of Egypt, Sudan, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, and Oman, as well as AL chief Nabil al-Arabi.
January 22nd, 2012, 4:16 pm
jad said:
Hammoudeh of qatar palys down the report findings and hides the facts about the terrorist, he financially support, under the rug in his statement:
وزراء الخارجية العرب: لتشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية في سوريا خلال شهرين
الخبر برس : الإخبارية اللبنانية
أوضح أمير قطر حمد بن جاسم بن جبر آل ثاني، في ختام إجتماع لجنة الوزراء العربية أن “النقاشات كانت طويلة ومسؤولة بين كل الأشقاء وكان يسودها الحرص على الوضع في سوريا ونحن رغم اصرار الجامعة العربية على ان يكون الحل العربي هو المثل والأسلم نناشد القيادة السورية، أن تتحمل مسؤولياتها أمام الشعب وأمام الله بأن تتخذ الإجراءات الكفيلة بإنهاء الأزمة”.
ورأى أن “سوريا بدأت تنزلق لشدة الإفراط في استخدام العنف، ونحن نحتاج الى سوريا قوية ومتماسكة ولا نريد إطالة هذه الأزمة لأن فيها الكثير من زهق الأرواح والتأثير السلب إقتصاديا”.
وأوضح أمير قطر أن “الحكومة السورية مطالبة بـ: “الإفراج عن المعتقلين واخلاء الشوارع من المظاهر المسلحة، وسحب الجيش السوري وأي قوات مسلحة من مختلف التشكيلات الى ثكناتها، ودعوة الحكومة السورية الى تسهيل مهمة المراقبين وتسهيل إدخال معداتهم، والبدء بحوار مع المعارضة في إطار زمني لا يتعدى الأسبوعين”.
كما طالب الوزراء العرب، بـ”تشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية خلال شهرين تكون مهمتها الإعداد لإنتخابات نزيهة، داعين الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد تفويض نائبه القيام بمهامه”. كما طالبوا بـ”تكليف الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي بإيفاد مبعوث الى سوريا”.
وأوضح أنه “سنطلب من مجلس الأمن وسنوقع بعد قليل خطاب لرئيس المجلس ونطلب منه تحديد اجتماع لوضع كل قرارات الجامعة العربية والمبادرة العربية”.
ولفت الوأجاب ردا عن سؤال أن “الهدف من ارسال قوات عربية هو حفظ الأمن وليس القتال”.ى ان “لبنان نأى بنفسه عن القرارات العربية وله ظروفه التي نقدرها”.
المؤتمر الصحفي في ختام اجتماع وزراء الخارجية العرب
http://youtu.be/9llIFgWieP0
And Alarabi will start the ‘UN’ ‘negotiations’ for ‘help’:
العربي: يجب أن تبدأ العملية السياسية في سوريا لأن العنف ما زال مستمرا
الخبر برس : الإخبارية اللبنانية
أكد الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي أنه “يجب على العملية السياسية ان تبدأ في سوريا لأن العنف ما زال مستمراً”، مشيراً إلى أنه “تم تكليف الأمين العام لتغيين المبعوث الخاص لمتابعة العملية السياسية في سوريا”.
وفي مؤتمر صحافي إثر اجتماع وزراء الخارجية العرب لبحث مهمة المراقبين العرب، أوضح أن “طبيعة عمل هؤلاء المراقبين في سوريا تغيرت وأصبحت أكثر صعوبة”، مشيراً إلى أنه “سيتم الطلب من مجلس الأمن تأييد ودعم المبادرة العربية”.
I guess they want to make KSA happy by ignoring the report findings, which wasn’t as planned.
January 22nd, 2012, 4:17 pm
ann said:
Syria releases 5,255 prisoners since Assad’s amnesty – 2012-01-22
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/22/c_131373402.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 22 (Xinhua) — A total of 5,255 people have been released so far since the latest amnesty declared by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, a state-run daily reported Sunday.
Al-Assad declared last week an amnesty for all crimes committed during the Syrian unrest since in mid March.
The amnesty involves those who have peacefully demonstrated, those who have carried and possessed unlicensed weapons and ammunition, in addition to those who would hand over their unlicensed weapons to the government before the end of this month.
It also applies to army deserters who fled the military service, if they turn themselves in to the authorities before Jan 31.
Syria has released some 9,207 prisoners through several amnesties since mid March.
Releasing those who were arrested during the unrest has topped the protesters’ demands and is part of a deal concluded lately between the Syrian government and an Arab League (AL) ministerial committee to bring the Syrian crisis to a close.
January 22nd, 2012, 4:22 pm
irritated said:
#468. Tara
“976 killed by the regime since the start of the AL’s mission, including 28 students and 54 children and 14 students per the LCC”
and per fake Rami Abdul Rahman..
How many soldiers and civilians killed by the roadside bombs and the attack on the trains, the buses, the army, the police and theambulances by the opposition gangs and the FSA death angels ?
January 22nd, 2012, 4:31 pm
Tara said:
I just heard the press conference. It is bad news for Bashar. The UNSC will be involved too. So long Bashar. I am going to Hamidieh this summer?
January 22nd, 2012, 4:31 pm
ann said:
AL extends observer mission to Syria by a month – January 23, 2012
http://gulftoday.ae/portal/45739e92-de74-4933-97dc-0311f1b238b7.aspx
CAIRO: The Arab League observer’s mission in Syria has been extended for another month, officials from the 22-member organization said on Sunday.
The decision was made during a meeting by Arab foreign ministers in the Egyptian capital, where they decided to add more members to the mission and provide them with more resources.
Saudi Foreign Minister Saud Al Faisal told reporters that his country will pull out its observers because “the Syrian government did not implement the Arab plan.”
The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to speak to the media, said the UN would train the observers.
The opposition Syrian National Council (SNC) says the observers lack the resources and clout to truly judge Assad’s compliance with an Arab peace plan and has called upon the Arab League to refer the Syrian crisis to the Security Council.
But Egypt, Algeria and Tunisia told the head of the Arab League, Nabil Al Arabi, they would oppose such a move, a League source said on Sunday.
“The three states support solving the Syrian crisis inside the Arab League,” the source told reporters.
“There is partial progress in the implementation of the promises,” Arabi said in Cairo about Syria’s implementation of the plan. Syria “did not carry out all its promises, although there are some implementations of pledges.”
January 22nd, 2012, 4:33 pm
irritated said:
#479
Don’t forget to bring your burka.
January 22nd, 2012, 4:33 pm
irritated said:
Tara
You were advertising the health benefits and joy of skying… and you even convinced one of your dearest friend.
“Lebanon’s opposition leader and former prime minister Saad Hariri broke his leg while skiing in the French alps, doctors said Sunday.”
http://news.yahoo.com/former-lebanon-pm-breaks-leg-skiing-french-alps-210413804.html
January 22nd, 2012, 4:40 pm
Irritated said:
Cuz CHADOR is so much better you now….
January 22nd, 2012, 4:46 pm
Ghufran said:
Majed,
The numbers I posted are not mine,I copied them from a local source close to SCB,and we will see if they hold water,the only number I personally verified was 72 Lira / $ some 10 days ago.
I agree that the economy is in intensive care but it has not collapsed yet,an infusion of a couple of billion dollars will probably freeze the decline in Lira value for a while,this infusion may or may not come,the local source said it is coming,we just have to wait and see. I read about people paying 86 lira/ dollar but that may not be true either.
January 22nd, 2012, 4:48 pm
ann said:
French MP Questions Involvement of French Intelligence and Special Forces Personnel with Syrians traitors who Fled to Turkey and Lebanon
Jan 22, 2012
PARIS – French MP for the Socialist Party Francois Loncle questioned during an interposition at the National Assembly why French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe didn’t respond to a query he posed on the involvement of French intelligence personnel and Special Forces officers sent to Turkey and Lebanon regarding the so-called defected Syrian soldiers.
Loncle had made inquiries to Juppe on the situation in Syria on December 20, 2011, and didn’t receive an answer as of yet.
The MP called for France to clarify its stance regarding Syria and whether it’s currently considering military intervention against it without UN approval, expressing surprise over the French government’s announced support for international intervention in Syria and their suggestion of establishing “humanitarian passages” and acknowledging the Istanbul Council.
Loncle also asked if the “logistic and operational support” provided by France to the so-called Syrian Free Army involves providing them with weapons.
January 22nd, 2012, 4:49 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Ghufran,
I heard that the money is coming from Iran, but it has been a few days and the same news is still circulating with nothing arriving, could it be disinformation for more time?
I don’t know how much time, but with the banks selling dollars this coming week things will be changing drastically, the central bank will need that infusion or will lose control over the Lira.
Also it would help the regime if they had someone seen as competent running the central bank, many people I talk to have nothing good to say about him.
January 22nd, 2012, 5:01 pm
Ghufran said:
Will Ehsani jump in and help us interpret the news we hear about the economy?
A friend with a degree in economy said that the government will probably float the Lira and monitor distribution of necessity items to prevent famine and major unrest,that will increase the exchange rate of the $ but reduce black market manipulation,his estimate of the real value of the $ is high 60s to low 70s.
The money stolen from the treasury since the 1970s can easily stabilize the Lira,good luck getting any of it back.
How does a political change in the regime rescue the economy,any thought?
January 22nd, 2012, 5:01 pm
Tara said:
Irritated @479 and @480
When pro regime run out of argument, they tell me not to forget “my burka”. Why? They think they can win an arguments by throwing a burqa thing… It is too retarded. I answered this question once and my answer gave rise to “a shoes fan club” and since then I let the “burqa issue” slides as I am in no need for a shoes fan club on SC. I also never cared about the Hamidieh before. I perhaps visited Hamidieh only 2 times all my life. My taste have since changed. I like it very much now… Don’t ask me why. It is strange I know.
I never cared before about Saad. I cared very much in the past about Hasan. My taste has also changed. I see Hassan now as a mere terrorist, and I see Saad as a guy whose dad was killed by Besho, the killer.
——
I miss Bronco too. Would’ve liked to read his analysis about the Sumo prince charming of Qatar. I think Hamad did a good job today.
January 22nd, 2012, 5:03 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
The regime was not expecting such decisions from AL. they were expecting to negotiate extension,they found out
1) extension the observer stay for one month.
2) demand for Assad to relinquish power to vice president, and give him all power.including talk to the opposition.
3) form a goverment of the opposition.
4) ask the UN SC to adopt the AL initiative.
We know Bashar will refuse, but Bashar does not have a space to maneuvre, the economy is much worse, and the external pressure is mounting, and the revolution continues.
God bless the FSA
January 22nd, 2012, 5:08 pm
Ghufran said:
SOD
( I am also an SOD)
Mialeh has a very tough job and I personally do not think he has much power to change things around,I was told he is very smart but arrogant and less sympathetic to the poor,I have no opinion of him.
Iran has its own problems but I tend to believe that the news about 90 lira/$ reflect more anxiety than economic calculations,it is more like a nervous stock market.
I had a heated exchange with few friends who support suffocating the economy to produce a faster regime change,I yet have to see any proof from history that sanctions and starvation of the masses make them more supportive of the opposition.
January 22nd, 2012, 5:11 pm
Mawal95 said:
@ JAD, ANN, or anybody: Can you please point me to a link to the Arab League Observer Mission’s Report that was discussed at the Arab League meeting today?
The only info I’ve been able to find myself so far about the contents of this Report consists of a few comments by Nabil Al-Arabi to journalists. Reading between the lines of this evening’s news about the Arab League’s meeting, I gather the journalists haven’t seen the Report either. If you too haven’t seen the Report on the Internet, do you have any info as to whether the Report is not being made available to the public?
January 22nd, 2012, 5:12 pm
ann said:
In cradle of Syrian revolt, army is now in charge – Sun Jan 22, 2012
In the birthplace of Syria’s 10-month-old revolt, the army leaves no doubt who is now in charge: checkpoints surround the city, posters of the president plaster the walls and security officers patrol.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/22/us-syria-deraa-idUSTRE80L0KK20120122
“THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT FREEDOM IS”
At a government building that officials said was set on fire by protesters, shattered glass littered the floors.
“They burned police stations and government buildings and attacked more than 400 schools here,” said General Mohamed Asaad, head of police in Deraa province.
The general said the opposition need not protest because the government had promised reforms. Since unrest began, the president has revoked a much-hated emergency law and legalized parties other than the ruling Baath party.
“The leadership responded to some of their demands,” he said. “They are demanding freedom but they have no idea what freedom is.”
Most opposition groups have rejected dialogue with the government, refusing to negotiate as the crackdown continues and demanding the president’s ouster.
At Deraa’s Omari mosque, where clashes erupted during the protests, troops and checkpoints now encircle the building. Passers-by eye strangers with suspicion.
The mosque looks undamaged. Shopkeepers around it refused to speak.
“Go, and don’t cause me trouble,” one vendor said. “Whoever wants to see the truth can see it.”
A Syrian journalist approached Reuters to say she had been threatened because she supported President Assad.
“My heart is burning, when I see what is happening to my country it breaks my heart,” she said, declining to give her name. “They want to terrorize us here in Deraa, why?”
General Mohamed Asaad said the city was now safe and under state control. He said 200 detainees had been released in the southern city. Activists say thousands of Syrians have been imprisoned since unrest began.
“Life is normal now, the roads are open. What is left is a few armed men who are bandits,” he said.
One some street corners, fresh grafitti has been painted along the walls: “God, Syria and Bashar only.”
January 22nd, 2012, 5:16 pm
Ghufran said:
Majed
The AL has not asked Bashar to step down,even though I think he should,but is trying to copy the Yemen model in gradual steps.
I will wait to see the actual report before I make any further comments.
Alsharaa is already being groomed to lead negotiation with the opposition but you can not negotiate with somebody who is refusing to talk to you,the opposition is right in its demand to see a halt of violence against unarmed civilians but what about those who carry arms?
My fear is that the politicians in the opposition have little control on the ground.
January 22nd, 2012, 5:18 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Ghufran
While Farooq Shar3 wanted to negotiate,
1) he did not approached the true opposition, he approached the fake opposition, such as Jamil Qadri.
2) He was not given full power to negotitiate, he has to return to Bashar in every thing and get the O.K. from him.
3) his previous attemp failed and thrown in the garbage.
January 22nd, 2012, 5:26 pm
Mawal95 said:
At SyriaComment.com on 27 Nov 2011 commenter KHALID TLASS posted a video of a platoon of Syrian rebels armed with AK-47s chanting in front of the camera:
Whatever happened to those “Salafi Tigers of Idlib” afterwards? Here’s footage dating from 20 Dec 2011 showing that getting into a fight with the Syrian army is very hard work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlSMd4EgF7w
More footage along the same lines at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfPRmILaVcg
January 22nd, 2012, 5:43 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Ghufran,
Myaleh is in a tough spot, and really all he could do is react rather than predict, but his reactions have been knee jerk rather than well thought out economic plan many times, which is why many dislike him (Imports ban is a prime example).
By the way I claim no exclusive right to the handle Son of Damascus, I love Dimashq al Sham and proud to have the honour to call myself son of Damascus, and I know I am just one of the millions who are the Sons and Daughters of Damascus.
Regards
One of the Sons of Damascus
January 22nd, 2012, 5:55 pm
irritated said:
Tara #487
Don’t get irritated (like me) , I was just teasing you.
January 22nd, 2012, 6:01 pm
Mawal95 said:
The following videos are of anti-regime protests in Arbeen neighborhood (a suburb of Damascus) on the most recent two Fridays. The crowd size is pretty big and it is not smaller than it’s been on any Friday during the past ten months in Arbeen, to my knowledge. As usual the crowd is essentially all young male and working class. The great majority of Arbeen neighborhood residents are conservative Sunnis in their religion (as seen on any day of the week by the high percentage of the young women who wear head coverings). But the protest crowd has no Sunni emblematics and no Sunni chauvinism in their chanting. If they will keep their protest peaceful, as they do in these videos, we on the pro-regime side will have absolutely no objection to them continuing to protest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE9tuGBIPZI Arbeen Friday 13 Jan 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbWkcxpCW1s Arbeen Friday 13 Jan 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmoi9pzYrf8 Arbeen Friday 20 Jan 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK2VtU9MG-w Arbeen Friday 20 Jan 2012
http://www.youtube.com/user/cityoferbin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd0qetoxdEg Arbeen Friday 8 Apr 2011
January 22nd, 2012, 6:03 pm
William Scott Scherk said:
TARA writes a glancing rejoinder at the snide mystery person IRRITATED:
Tara, I enjoy your relative calm and disinterest in labelling those who disagree with you as Traitors, Scum, “You and your terrorist friends.” You do a pretty good job of keeping your cool, whether provoked by the degenerated SNK or by the snide and bilious. You even stay relatively even-keeled when hysterics call you a pathological liar …
But, is it fair to call the snide IRRITATED pro-regime? I do not recall him/her ever speaking in support of Assad’s actions, or of the government’s actions. She has not, like Norman, gone mad and called for cleansing opposition to the regime by any means possible.
When you asked Irritated if s/he was Syrian, you received an odd response, I thought: “Anonymity is the rule on any weblog. I respect that.”
Anonymity is indeed a precious thing for any Syrian inside or outside Syria at the moment. Whether one believes that Muhhabarat prowl the comments or whether one believes that “your terrorist friends” seek IDs to hunt down and destroy, I respect any Syrian’s desire to remain unidentifiable. In that sense, it doesn’t matter if JAD is a forty-year Homsi now in Berlin or Quebec City or wherever — if he feels that his ID becoming known could result in any type of harassment, or if he did not want any possible link to vulnerable family in Syria — it is his right to refuse any questions he feels make him more vulnerable.
Similarly, the irritable lady or fellow with the fake name — if her family is in London with her or if his family is all working for the family pizza parlour in Dubuque — none of that matters if he or she wishes to preserve anonymity completely. Frankly, it seems odd that the snide one cannot even acknowledge citizenship or place of birth. That is sad and stupid, but that is Syria, I suppose. If I had to guess or speculate in the same snide manner as this person does, I would say that, like Ann, like Pirouz, there is a good reason he does not answer any questions about her nationality (I should point out that Revlon — alternately known here as “Terrorist Make-up Dude Aroorist Monster” — had early on explained to me his general anonymity, while letting us all know he was Syrian and in Canada). I mean, even Norman has let us know just who he is in general terms (a Baathi-supporting USA doctor from Syria who wants the Army to crush neighbourhoods). Even the mysterious know-it-all MINA has let us know that she is an old Maoist with no particular ties to Syria …
Anyway, as far as I can see, the lovely and talented IRRITATED has never uttered a word in support of Bashar Al-Assad or the regime or its actions. So, please be fair. We should never presume that anyone stands by the actions of Baathi oppression unless they clearly say so in no uncertain terms.
We do know that IRRITATED condemns all Germans forevermore for the crimes of Nazism. This is shocking and disgusting to me, and suggests to me that IRRITATED has problems with basic ethics, but it in now way tells me that she is a regimist.
So lay off, or she will tell you to bag yourself up in a Burka and join “your terrorist friends in the MB” …
January 22nd, 2012, 6:05 pm
Tara said:
Irritated
If they only make the burqa pink…and allow a heel with it. I then may consider. That ugly blue is not my color…
January 22nd, 2012, 6:09 pm
irritated said:
492. Ghufran
There were several articles indicating that the “Russian plan” for Syria is inspired by the Yemen plan: No looser, no winner.
I guess this is quietly happening but I also think that the popularity of Bashar al Assad is much higher compared to Saleh’s popularity in Yemen. So it won’t be as simple to discard Bashar al Assad. In addition, it may create a shock wave in the Alawite community unless specific guarantees of power sharing are included in the deal (or the Constitution), which will certainly be rejected by hardline sunnis.
No easy negotiations ahead.
January 22nd, 2012, 6:09 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
WSS
Aaroor bless you.
January 22nd, 2012, 6:11 pm
irritated said:
$499 Tara
I can ask Mulla Omar if they make them in pink too, but you may not walk incognito or safely in Hamidieh with such color. I suggest you try it first in Shaalan or on Hamra street.
January 22nd, 2012, 6:13 pm
zoo said:
After weeks of silence, is Saudi Arabia ‘s new pressure on Syria a disguised warning to Iran
Saudi urges pressure on Syria, withdraws monitors
Reuters By Ayman Samir and Yasmine Saleh | Reuters – 2 hrs 15 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/arab-states-set-keep-monitors-syria-092845824.html
CAIRO (Reuters) – – Saudi Arabia said on Sunday it was withdrawing its observers from Syria after an Arab monitoring mission failed to end 10 months of bloodshed, and called on the international community to exert “all possible pressure” on Damascus.
..
“We are calling on the international community to bear its responsibility, and that includes our brothers in Islamic states and our friends in Russia, China, Europe and the United States,” Prince Saud said, calling for “all possible pressure” to push Syria to adhere to the Arab peace plan.
January 22nd, 2012, 6:18 pm
Observer said:
The economy is in dire straits and this is from an insider who is currently in Syria and he is an economist. I do not wish to steal his thunder nor to quote him out of contest but in the past he has given me extremely important and precise and credible information.
The price of everything is significantly higher and more importantly there is a general breakdown of law and order as the police and the payed thugs are mobilized fully to crush the rebellion there are now highway bandits like we used to have at the end of the Ottoman empire in the early 1900’s.
Travel to Beirut and Amman is not yet a problem except for a multitude of check points.
Travel to other parts of Syria is not safe anymore as the clashes between the FSA and Assadist troops is on ongoing process.
Troops are massing around Zabadani.
As for the AL statements let me say that I commend the SNC for taking the initiative and for supporting the decision and for putting the ball in the court of the regime fully. It is not what people wanted but it is one victory on the road to many others.
The inner circle is not willing to give one inch and I wonder if it is able to. The rope that was dangled today by the AL could save it or it could strangle it.
As for the Adoring News Network and the Itchy and the fake JAD and crusader Norman I would say to TARA and others to rejoice in their attacks. It proves to me again and again the depth of soul corruption that the regime has cultivated over the years. It also proves to me again how little of a concept of true citizenship these sectarians have. I actually have fun reading their poor syntax and distorted illogical rantings and wonder about delusions and psychosis the revolt has caused them.
My survey of the group: Question
Which of you take sleeping pills
which of you started to do so in 3.2011
What sleeping pills does MUALLLEM TAKE
January 22nd, 2012, 6:33 pm
Observer said:
By the way this is especially for JADY and SNK about the great work of BETHO’s wonder boys
http://www.lorientlejour.com/category/%C3%80+La+Une+%28Slideshow%29/article/741346/Funerailles%2C_a_Arida%2C_du_jeune_pecheur_libanais_tue_par_des_tirs_syriens.html
January 22nd, 2012, 6:43 pm
Norman said:
Observer,
Keep dreaming, nobody is coming to help you or your terrorist friends and what the AL said today has been the demand for the SNC since the beginning, it is a non starter, in few months the Syrian reform will be underway and the West will recognize your racist revolution as it is racist, and call your Friends as they are, terrorists, The Syrian army will do what it should and that is to clean the streets of all your terrorists friends ,
January 22nd, 2012, 6:46 pm
zoo said:
Kurdish group to demand autonomy in new charter
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/kurdish-group-to-demand-autonomy-in-new-charter.aspx?pageID=238&nID=12038&NewsCatID=338
“The emphasis on “Turkishness” should be completely removed from the new constitution, further proposed the DTK, saying the charter must not focus on any single race in order to embrace and protect all of the ethnic and cultural groups in Turkey. The definition of constitutional citizenship should not create discrimination between Turks, Kurds or other ethnic identities, said the DTK.
As part of their demand for constitutional equality, the DTK further demanded education and public services in native languages as well as in scientific, religious and artistic activities.”
{…}
January 22nd, 2012, 6:54 pm
irritated said:
Observer #502
Sell you comments you’ll become rich. A suggested ad:
No need for sleeping pills anymore, just read Observer’s pseudo intellectual comments on Syriacomment. Deep dreamless sleep guarantee.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:04 pm
Tara said:
Dear William
I always always enjoy reading your posts. I retract. Sorry irritated. I labeled you a regimist and you may not be. You are so far anti-revolutionist till you tell us otherwise.
William, the difference between regimist and anti revolutionist is not entirely clear to me. What clear is that if someone is against this murderous evil regime, he or she cannot be antievolution just because it is crystal clear to all that the regime will not relinquish power and \”reform\” out of benevolence. The regime will never go away except through a revolution and never through a dialogue. Given this conviction, it is difficult for me to believe that a certain person is not a regimist yet antievolutionist.
Irritated,
For Hamidieh tour, I already know what I am wearing: a jeans, a simple T-shirt, a light make up with a ponytail.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:07 pm
Norman said:
No comment.
http://www.alquds.co.uk
خلافات بين التيارين السلفي والعلماني حول اسم الجمعة وتخوفات من ‘أسلمة’ الاحتجاجات في سورية
دمشق ـ ‘القدس العربي’ ـ من كامل صقر: بعد اعتراضات واسعة في أوساط المعارضة السورية وبعض قياديي الحراك الشعبي في الداخل السوري على تسمية إحدى الجُمع الفائتة باسم ‘الجيش الحر يحميني’ بسبب ما قيل حينها أنه مؤشر على عسكرة الاحتجاجات الشعبية ضد النظام السوري، طفت إلى السطح أمس خلافات واضحة في ذات الأوساط المناوئة للسلطة في سورية حول تسمية الجمعة القادمة باسم ‘إعلان الجهاد’، وهو ما أثار ريبة وتخوف التيارات العلمانية في داخل المعارضة وبعض أوساط ما يسمى تنسيقيات الثورة السورية، وتحديداً الليبرالية منها،من إضفاء صبغة دينية محضة على المظاهرات التي تخرج عادة في سورية يوم الجمعة وإعطائها بعداً إسلامياً من النمط الذي تتبناه حركات توصف بأنها راديكالية في مقدمتها حركة الإخوان المسلمين، لتبرز دعوات من تلك التيارات الليبرالية لتسمية الجمعة المقبلة باسم ‘جمعة سورية الدولة المدنية الديمقراطية’.
يتزامن ذلك مع تقدم واضح في تسلح المعارضة داخل سورية وتحول أجزاء منها إلى العمل العسكري، وقد تجلى ذلك بشكل واضح في منطقة الزبداني حالياً والتي تعتبر واقعة تحت سيطرة الأهالي المسلحين وعناصر منشقة عن الجيش.
وتتخوف أوساط داخل المعارضة ذاتها من أن تكون الدعوة لهذه التسمية تحريضا ضمنيا لإعلان الحرب الأهلية بشكل صريح وتحولا جذريا في جوهر الحراك الاحتجاجي نحو العمل المسلح والعسكري في مواجهة قوات الجيش النظامي، وهو ما يعني انزلاق البلاد إلى مرحلة خطيرة للغاية وفق تقدير المراقبين.
وفي السياق ذاته أفادت مصادر مطلعة لـ ‘القدس العربي’ ان دبلوماسيين أوروبيين في دمشق تنادوا خلال الساعات الماضية وأجروا اتصالات فيما بينهم ومع بلدانهم للتشاور في المعاني التي تنطوي عليها تسمية الجمعة القادمة باسم جمعة إعلان الجهاد، مضيفة أن عدة سفارات غربية أجمعت على أن هذا التوجه يعتبر خطيراً على الاتجاه المدني والديمقراطي الذي تقول دول أوروبية انها تدعمه وتسعى لمساعدة المعارضة على تحقيقه في سورية وأن معظم السفارات الغربية بدمشق أبلغت وزاراتها المعنية بقراءة سلبية لهذا التطور على مستوى الأزمة السورية.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:17 pm
zoo said:
The Yemeni solution to Syria? Would the Syrian government accept? Would the opposition accept?
“The Arab League has called on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to delegate power to his vice president and for elections to be held under a “national unity government,”
“The League has called on the opposition and government to being (sic) a new round of dialogue “within two weeks”
Arab League calls on Assad to delegate power
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/01/201212254625411178.html
Bloc agrees on political initiative for unity government and early elections to end Syria crisis, says Qatari PM.
The Arab League has called on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to delegate power to his vice president and for elections to be held under a “national unity government,” the latest steps in a slow-moving diplomatic effort to end 10 months of bloody uprising.
The bloc’s members agreed on Sunday to a political initiative that would call for a unity government and early elections to end the crisis, the Qatari prime minister said after a meeting of the 22-member body in Cairo.
The new plan envisions the “peaceful departure of the Syrian regime” and resembles the arrangement in Yemen, where Gulf nations convinced President Ali Abdullah Saleh to delegate power and leave the country, Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim Al Thani said.
Al Thani said the League will ask the United Nations Security Council to support its plan for transition.
“After the establishment of the government of national unity, there has to be a referendum and preparation for new elections. The Arab League’s Secretary-General is to send a new special envoy to Syria, and will call on the international community to support this national unity government to fulfill its functions,” he said.
He also reiterated the Arab League’s demands that the violence in Syria be brought to an end, that political detainees be released, that the Syrian military pull out of cities and that citizens be allowed to demonstrate peacefully.
The League has called on the opposition and government to being a new round of dialogue “within two weeks”.
Al-Thani said that while the League was taking its case to the Security Council, it was not in favour of an international military intervention.
“We are looking into an Arab solution for this. We are not looking for a military intervention. The decision was by consensus, except Algeria which had some reservations. Lebanon has abstained, and we appreciate their situation there and we thank them for their cooperation,” he said.
He also announced that the Arab League’s observer mission in Syria would be extended, and that the observers would be given additional equipment.
Nabil ElAraby, the League’s secretary-general, said that Syria had not fulfilled its obligations, and that is why the observers’ mission was being extended.
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“We think that when the Arab League refers the case to the United Nations and to the Security Council the situation will change,” Basma ElKadamny, an SNC spokesperson, said in Cairo.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:24 pm
jna said:
Syria: Bashar al-Assad given ultimatum to oversee transition to democracy
Bashar al-Assad, the embattled president of Syria, was given an ultimatum last night by his Arab League neighbours to abandon his monopoly on power, create a coalition government with the oppositon and oversee a transition to democracy within six months.
By Richard Spencer, Cairo and Ruth Sherlock in Beirut
11:45PM GMT 22 Jan 2012
After a day of intense argument, League leaders made an unprecedented decision to decide how an Arab nation should constitute its government.
And for the second time in a year after its intervention over Libya, it sought United Nations security council approval for its actions, raising the longer term prospect of international action. Sheikh Hamad bin Jaseem al-Thani, the prime minister of Qatar reiterated warnings that the League could send in peacekeeping troops to separate the sides in an emerging civil war.
“The new Arab initiative adopted by the foreign ministers envisages the peaceful departure of the Syrian regime,” he said, adding that it mirrored a Gulf-led deal to ease President Ali Abdullah Saleh of Yemen from power last year.
The meeting of Arab foreign ministers lasted six hours longer than scheduled. The leader of the monitoring mission to Syria, Gen. Mustafa al-Dabi, had recommended extending it for another month, and was backed by the secretary-general, Nabil al-Araby, even though he also accused Mr Assad of exploiting it for his own purposes.
An extension had been fiercely opposed by Syrian opposition groups who claimed it gave licence to Mr Assad to “carry on killing”.
Saudi Arabia, the major Gulf power, announced it was pulling its observers out.
“It is not a quality of Arab leaders to kill their people,” a statement by its foreign minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, said, accusing the Assad regime of using the mission to “hide its crimes”.
The offer that emerged was a compromise, but a detailed one. It said Mr Assad should open a dialogue with the opposition within two weeks, form a coalition government in two months, and then allow free elections.
It was not clear whether the League had sought a response in advance from Mr Assad, but he was also facing an ever bleaker situation at home. Activists said they were in control of Douma, a town on the outskirts of Damascus itself and just 10 miles from the city centre, after the army was forced to withdraw.
Clashes began on Saturday evening at the funeral of Mohammed Said Maddah, a protester who had been shot dead, according to Omar al-Khani, of the Syrian Revolutionary Command in Damascus.
“When the martyr’s body arrived, along with the funeral procession, the criminal Assad gangs waged a surprise attack and shot at them,” he said.
Gun battles with the rebel Free Syrian Army led to the government troops eventually withdrawing.
“The FSA gathered near Hawwa mosque,” said an activist who claimed to have been present at the funeral. “Then they advanced attacking the Syrian troops stationed at the end of the street.
“The fighting continued for four hours, and the FSA managed to kill seven or eight troops and capture one officer”.
Douma is the second town near Damascus to have declared itself free of government control, after Zabadani to the west.
Rebels hope that they can become hubs of further resistance, as Benghazi did in Libya. “He is getting weaker day by day. More frequently now the leaders of the troops run away,” said the Douma activist.
Mr al-Araby said the presence of monitors was softening the regime’s stance. It may also have been keen to avoid the fighting necessary to reclaim the two towns while the Arab League decided on its next steps.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9031796/Syria-Bashar-al-Assad-given-ultimatum-to-oversee-transition-to-democracy.html
Will Bashar al-Assad bend enough to create a coalition government that enables free elections? Will the Opposition get off its high horse and engage in dialogue with the regime to form a coalition government with the elections to follow?
January 22nd, 2012, 7:36 pm
jad said:
Observer, stick to your usual shit pills, they make you sound…well…the shit you are.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:36 pm
Tara said:
Bashar will definitely need a sleeping pill today. The proposal is essentially for Besho to go away, handover the power to As Sharaa, a unity government in 2 month, and a referendum on a constitution 3 month after the formation of a unity government under the watch of Arabic and INTERNATIONL observers. This is a real bad news for bushbush. He will not accept it.
Arab League proposes new plan for Syrian transition
(Reuters) – Arab League foreign ministers proposed on Sunday that Syria’s embattled President Bashar al-Assad hand over power to a deputy and set up a new unity government, after their earlier peace plan failed to end 10 months of bloodshed.
They said the League would ask the U.N. Security Council to endorse its new plan. It appeared highly unlikely that Assad, who has mocked the League and pledged in a recent speech to intensify a crackdown on “terrorists” and “conspirators,” would agree to it.
The Arab League proposal envisages the creation of a unity government as a prelude to early parliamentary and presidential elections, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani said after a day of Arab meetings on the Syrian crisis.
He compared the proposal to a Gulf plan on Yemen, which saw President Ali Abdullah Saleh agree to hand over power.
It was not clear, however, how the League might enforce its latest plan, given the failure of an Arab observer team in Syria to end the Assad governmen’s repression of an uprising in which the United Nations says 5,000 people have died.
“We ask that the Syrian regime leave and hand over power,” Sheikh Hamad said. “We are with the Syrian people, with their will and with their aspirations.”
Deep splits among the 22 member states have complicated the Arab League’s efforts to take a strong stand on the Syrian crisis, but Sunday’s proposal was approved by all save Lebanon, a smaller neighbour which has consistently opposed escalation. Algeria objected to taking the plan to the Security Council.
The main opposition Syrian National Council, which has urged the Arab League for weeks to refer the Syrian crisis to the UN Security Council, welcomed the initiative.
“This confirms that all Arab countries today consider the tyrannical regime of Bashar al-Assad to be finished and that it must be replaced,” SNC chief Burhan Ghalioun told a news conference in Cairo, where the foreign ministers met.
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Asked about a previous Arab threat to impose sanctions on Assad, Sheikh Hamad said: “Arab economic sanctions will be imposed via the Security Council.” He did not elaborate.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/22/us-syria-idUSTRE8041A820120122
January 22nd, 2012, 7:40 pm
Ghufran said:
Cairo (CNN) — The Arab League agreed on a path forward in Syria on Sunday that instructs President Bashar al-Assad to delegate powers to his vice president following the formation of a national unity government.
It called for the Syrian government to start a dialogue with the opposition within two weeks, and for the new government to be formed within two months.
The unity government should prepare to elect a council, within three months, that will write a constitution, the Arab League said. It should also prepare for parliamentary and presidential elections.
The plan, details of which were announced by Qatari Foreign Minister Hamad bin Jassim Al Thani at a press conference in Cairo, is the clearest statement yet from the Arab League on what the league’s member states would like to see happen in Syria.
“The president will delegate his first vice president the full power to work with national unity government to enable it to perform its task in the transitional period,” he said.
The Arab League will take its plan to the United Nations in a bid to build international support. The initiative does not back military intervention in Syria.
Finally, the Arab League said it would extend its monitoring mission in Syria and increase the numbers of observers there.
Comment: waiting to see how the regime,the opposition and the street will respond.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:45 pm
Ghufran said:
No offense to anybody,but is not the AL plan the same one proposed here on SC as early as April?
January 22nd, 2012, 7:47 pm
jna said:
With the Arab League plan in mind, the Zabadani ceasefire is making sense.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:51 pm
Ghufran said:
القدس العربي
عدم صدور قرار عن وزراء الخارجية بالذهاب الى مجلس الامن يعكس قناعة بان هذه الخطوة غير عملية، لان ‘الفيتوين’ الروسي والصيني جاهزان لمنع التدويل او صدور اي قرار بتشريع عمل عسكري ضد النظام السوري، تماما مثل ‘الفيتو’ الامريكي الجاهز دائما لمنع اي مشروع قرار عربي بادانة اسرائيل او فرض عقوبات عليها بسبب الاستيطان او اجتياح قطاع غزة.
وزراء الخارجية العرب اعترفوا بان الازمة في سورية تنزلق الى حرب اهلية طائفية، وان لم يقولوا ذلك بمثل هذا الوضوح، وربما يلجأ هؤلاء، او الصقور منهم الى صب الزيت على نار هذه الحرب، من خلال ضخ الملايين لتجنيد المتطوعين والاستشهاديين منهم خاصة، وتمويل عمليات شراء اسلحة وتهريبها الى من يريد استخدامها ضد النظام السوري.
العاهل الاردني الملك عبدالله الثاني قال قبيل سفره الى الولايات المتحدة قبل اسبوع ان سورية ستشهد اياما صعبة في الفترة المقبلة، وربما يشير ذلك الى هذا السيناريو الخطير، اليس هو اول من تحدث عن الهلال الشيعي الذي يتحول بدرا هذه الايام؟!
January 22nd, 2012, 7:53 pm
Norman said:
That is a non starter proposal, the SNC has wanted that from the beginning , president Assad has no right to resign and leave all his supporters hanging and he will not do that, as i believe, nobody is coming to save the opposition in Syria, they aver played their hand with their demands and now it is clear that it is a militery uprising, be cheerful in few days Syria will have new constitution and by early Feb the Baath party will declare that it does not need set aside and qoutas to prove that it is the best for Syria, with that i believe that the West will declare that Syria is going on the right track and encourage all to join the process while giving the go ahead to the Syrian army to secure the streets and bring safety back, with the changes that are comming and the election that will be monitored there will be no excuses for violence by the opposition.long live Syria, Down with Qatar, Even if president Assad think that he can do that, the Syrian army will stand united and force Maher to the presidency and it will be all or nothing at that time. God help Syria.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:54 pm
jad said:
Moscow knew about the AL plan and even helped in the making according to this:
الشرع في شبه إقامة جبرية ، وموسكو اطلعت مسبقا على اقتراح الجامعة العربية تفويضه صلاحيات “رئاسية”
مصادر متطابقة في موسكو والقاهرة: نبيل العربي نسق بشكل كامل مع وزير الخارجية الروسية سيرغي لافروف بشأن المقترح المتعلق بتفويض فاروق الشرع بمهام”رئاسية” كاملة
موسكو ، القاهرة ـ الحقيقة ( خاص من : يوليا فيربتسكايا + مكتب التحرير): أكدت مصادر متطابقة في موسكو والقاهرة أن ما جاء في قرار الجامعة العربية يوم أمس “كان بتنسيق كامل مع مع موسكو”. وقال مصدر في الخارجية الروسية لـ”الحقيقة” إن ما ورد في قرار الجامعة العربية اليوم ( أمس) كان “بتنسيق كامل معنا ، وقد أحاطنا به الأمين العام للجامعة العربية مسبقا، ونعتقد أنه ينسجم مع جوهر المبادرة العربية التي عبرنا عن دعمنا الكامل لها منذ البداية باعتبارها الطريق الأمثل لمنع التدخل الخارجي وتدويل الأزمة السورية”. وكان القرار تضمن دعوة النظام السوري إلى “تشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية خلال شهرين من تاريخه تشارك فيها السلطة والمعارضة برئاسة شخصية متفق عليها تكون مهمتها تطبيق بنود خطة الجامعة العربية، والإعداد لانتخاباتٍ برلمانية ورئاسية تعددية حرة بموجب قانون ينص على إجراءاتها، بإشراف عربي ودولي”. كما ودعا القرار “رئيس الجمهورية (بشار الأسد إلى ) تفويض نائبه الأول بصلاحيات كاملة للقيام بالتعاون التام مع حكومة الوحدة الوطنية لتمكينها من أداء واجباتها في المرحلة الانتقالية”. ولاحظ المصدر الروسي أن القرار يشير ، من من الناحية القانونية والدستورية ، إلى “تفويض” نائبه بصلاحيات كاملة للتعاون حكومة الوحدة الوطنية العتيدة ، و”لم يقل التنازل له عن مهماته” ، وهو ما يعني ـ بحسب المصدر ـ “بقاء المنصب الأول في يد الرئيس الأسد ، وبالتالي إمكانية سحب التفويض من نائبه في أيما وقت يشاء. وتشكل هذه الصيغة حفظا لماء وجه الأسد”.
على هذا الصعيد ، كشف المصدر أن نائب الرئيس السوري فاروق الشرع موجود ” فيما يشبه الإقامة الجبرية منذ أن منعه ضباط المخابرات من السفر إلى موسكو الشهر الماضي”. وكان المصدر نفسه كشف لـ”الحقيقة” الشهر الماضي عن أن الشرع “كان يريد التوجه إلى موسكو بطائرة روسية حاملا تصورا سوريا لحل الأزمة يقوم على أساس المباحثات التي جرت في 18 كانون الأول / ديسمبر بين السفير الروسي في دمشق عظمة الله كولمحمدوف والعماد داود راجحة ( نائب القائد العام للجيش والقوات المسلحة ، وزير الدفاع) حول سبل الخروج من الأزمة السورية . إلا أن المجموعة المتصلبة و المتطرفة في النظام ، والتي تمثل قادة أجهزة المخابرات وبعض قيادات الجيش ، وفي مقدمتهم آصف شوكت و علي مملوك وجميل حسن وماهر الأسد، منعوا الشرع من المغادرة رغم تحديد ساعة إقلاعه ووصوله ، بعد أن اشتموا رائحة طبخة أزكمت أنوفهم جرى طبخها بين الرئيس ونائبه و القيادة الروسية”. وكانت وكالة ” إيتار تاس” أعلنت في ذلك اليوم عن وصول فاروق الشرع إلى موسكو استنادا إلى مصدر في الخارجية الروسية. إلا أن الزيارة ، وكما بات معروفا ، لم تحصل. وكانت وزارة الخارجية الروسية تلقت في حينه تأكيدات بموعد إقلاع طائرة الشرع من دمشق وموعد وصولها. إلا أن منع الشرع من السفر أربك العاصمتين. وهو ما دعا موقعا مقربا من المخابرات السورية ( شام برس) إلى القول في حينه ” إن الزيارة تأجلت ولم تلغ”!
على هذا الصعيد ، كشف المصدر الروسي مزيدا من المعلومات حول تلك الزيارة التي لم تتحقق، مشيرا إلى أن العماد داود راجحة كان أبلغ السفير الروسي في الاجتماع المشار إليه بـ”استعداد ضباط من الطائفة العلوية ، منفصلين كليا عن مجموعة آل الأسد والمجموعة الاستئصالية المتطرفة في هرم السلطة ، لدعم نائب الرئيس فاروق الشرع لقيادة مرحلة انتقالية “، وأكد له أن “معظم قادة الفرق والألوية في مختلف الأسلحة البرية والجوية ، المنحدرين من الطائفة العلوية والطوائف الأخرى ، مستعدون لدعم خيار انتقالي يكون الشرع على رأسه ، باعتباره شخصا وطنيا ونظيفا ويحظى باحترام كبير في الشارع السوري وفي أوساط قوى المعارضة الوطنية والديمقراطية التي ـ وبحسب معلوماتنا ـ ستتعاون معه”.
في هذا السياق ، أكد قيادي بارز في “هيئة التنسيق الوطني ” لـ” الحقيقة” المعرفة المسبق لموسكو بمضمون ما جاء في مقترحات الجامعة العربية. وقال المصدر ” لقد أبلغني الأمين العام للجامعة العربية ( نبيل العربي) بأنه مثلما كانت واشنطن هي صاحبة القول الفصل في حسم قضية الرئيس المصري السابق حسني مبارك ، فإن موسكو هي صاحبة القول الفصل في قضية بشار الأسد . ولهذا أنا على تواصل وتنسيق كامل مع موسكو”. وقال القيادي ” أستطيع أن أؤكد أن نبيل العربي يجري اتصالات متواترة ومستمرة مع وزير الخارجية الروسي سيرغي لافروف ، وينسق معه في جميع الخطوات التي تقوم بها الجامعة العربية ، بما في ذلك الكثير من التفاصيل الصغيرة التي جاءت في قرار الجامعة اليوم( أمس) ، وعلى رأسها قضية تفويض نائب الرئيس ( فاروق الشرع) بصلاحيات كاملة لجهة ما يتصل بإدارة العملية الانتقالية”. وكشف المصدر أن “هيئة التنسيق الوطني” ستصدر بيانا خلال الساعات القليلة القادمة تعلن فيها تأييدها لما جاء في قرار الجامعة العربية الذي أعلن عنه يوم أمس.
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/6517/Default.aspx
January 22nd, 2012, 7:55 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
The Elite in Syria has just started to abandon the regime, they are leaving Syria and taking their money with them abroad, this is why the syrian lira is droping sharply.
I expect Russia to support the AL initiative,
More defection in the army, and later,the whole syrian people will move against the regime, all over Syria,this is how the end will be.
January 22nd, 2012, 7:59 pm
jad said:
The first official reply from the Syrians: No.
سورية ترفض القرارات الصادرة عن مجلس الجامعة العربية على المستوى الوزاري وتعتبرها انتهاكا لسيادتها الوطنية وتدخلا سافرا في شؤونها الداخلية.. وترتبط بالمخطط الذي يستهدف أمن شعبها بطلب التدخل الأجنبي
دمشق-سانا
صرح مصدر مسؤول في الجمهورية العربية السورية أن سورية ترفض القرارات الصادرة عن مجلس الجامعة العربية على المستوى الوزاري بشأن سورية خارج إطار خطة العمل العربية والبروتوكول الموقع مع الجامعة العربية وتعتبرها انتهاكا لسيادتها الوطنية وتدخلا سافرا في شؤونها الداخلية وخرقا فاضحا للأهداف التي أنشئت الجامعة العربية من أجلها وللمادة الثامنة من ميثاقها.
وقال المصدر إن سورية تؤكد ادانتها لهذا القرار الذي جاء في إطار الخطة التآمرية الموجهة ضد سورية من قبل أدوات تنفذ هذه المخططات التي باتت مكشوفة لجماهير شعبنا في سورية والوطن العربي.
وأضاف المصدر أنه وبدلا من تحمل المجلس الوزاري لمسؤولياته في وقف تمويل وتسليح المجموعات الارهابية التي تقتل المواطنين السوريين الأبرياء وتهاجم المؤسسات والبنى التحتية للدولة السورية ووقف الحملات الاعلامية التضليلية المسؤولة عن سفك دماء السوريين الأبرياء فإننا استمعنا إلى بيانات تحريضية تعكس ارتباط أصحابها بالمخطط الذي يستهدف أمن شعبنا من خلال طلب التدخل الأجنبي في الشؤون السورية.
وقال المصدر إن مثل هذا القرار يتجاهل عن عمد الجهود التي بذلتها سورية في تنفيذ خطة الاصلاحات الشاملة التي أعلنها السيد الرئيس بشار الأسد في مجال التعددية السياسية لبناء سورية المتجددة وعلى رأسها الدستور الجديد الذي سيطرح للاستفتاء قريبا والذي يمثل الحداثة والنظام الديمقراطي التعددي.. هذه الاصلاحات التي تفتقد إليها العديد من الدول العربية التي قادت هذه الحملة العدائية ضد سورية.
وأكد المصدر أن هذا القرار الذي يتناقض مع مصالح شعبنا لن يثني سورية عن المضي في نهجها الإصلاحي وتحقيق الأمن والاستقرار لشعبها الذي برهن خلال هذه الأزمة على تمسكه بالوحدة الوطنية والتفافه حول قيادة الرئيس بشار الأسد.
http://www.sana.sy/ara/2/2012/01/23/395958.htm
January 22nd, 2012, 8:00 pm
Aldendeshe said:
@NORMAN Said: in few months the Syrian reform will be underway……..Common Norman, not even Baathist buy this anymore. I appreciate your support to Syria, but at one point it will be not in the interest of us all to do so. If reforms are ever coming, they would have came 11 years ago, or 11 months ago, they are not ever coming, and Syrians needs to move on to a better future.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:02 pm
jad said:
Ghufran
You are right, that was suggested by the opposition early on before they drop it and took arms. it only took them 10months of wasting Syrian lives to recognize the mistake ‘oops!’.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:03 pm
jad said:
Before you post it guys:
Mohammad Al Abdallah
أصبح من الواضح أن فيديو التعذيب الذي انتشر منذ ساعات بعنوان “مقطع مسرب من داخل أحد أقبية التحقيق هاام جدا” هو فيديو مزور… الرجاء التوقف عن نشره أو إرساله!
يا شباب تبهدلنا بالإعلام من وراء هالولدنات… اللي مفكر حاله عم يساعد ترا كثير عم تضرنا بهيك تلفيق!!
January 22nd, 2012, 8:06 pm
Ghufran said:
Norman,
We have the right to disagree,it was a mistake to deliver the presidency to Bashar in 2000 and a bigger mistake to amend the constitution,regardless of how bad it was,in fifteen minutes to fit Bashar’s age. A country of 23 million is able to find a replacement for Bashar as long as minority’s rights,women rights and peace are preserved.
This not not the 1950s,no president or government will succeed in making 30% of Syria’s population second class citizens. The army and the republican guards will not allow the AL or anybody else to create another Libya,but it is time for Syriabto move forward,I think,and I hope,the regime will eventually accept the plan after certain guarantees are given,this will put the SNC and the hawks on defense and reduce pressure on Syria.
I call on all of you to support a peaceful transition of power in Syria after the required guarantees are provided in writing and get the stamp of approval from major players,remember that Qatar is NOT a major player and the same is for KSA,goat emirates will be next,Arabs deserve better.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:09 pm
zoo said:
Ghufran #513
This is the schedule of events in the Arab plan:
1) Bashar al Assad and the opposition agree to the plan. Would they? how long would it take to get a response? What incentives are they offered to agree?
2) Bashar al Assad opens a dialog with the opposition ‘within two weeks’ ( after they agree, I guess) Would the opposition accept?
3) Within two months, Bashar Al Assad designates a new government including members of the opposition
3) Once done, Bashar al Assad passes his power to the Vice president
4) Three months later: Free elections Presidential? Parlementary? what happened to the Constitution?
January 22nd, 2012, 8:11 pm
jad said:
Haytham Manna on BBC is taking about taking the Syrian issue to the UNSC and about the AL Observers, the numbers of victims get higher because of the terrorist attacks by the ‘usual’ ‘angels’:
قناة ال BBC : الدكتور هيثم مناع
http://youtu.be/FWXPm7Gb14o
January 22nd, 2012, 8:12 pm
ann said:
Christians in Iran, Syria face rising persecution – 01/23/2012
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=254721
the Pakistan Christian Post wrote last week on its website, “The Christian community in Syria has been hit by a series of kidnappings and brutal murders; 100 Christians have now been killed since the anti-government unrest began. A reliable source in the country, who cannot be identified for their own safety, told Barnabas Aid that children were being especially targeted by the kidnappers, who, if they do not receive the ransom demanded, kill the victim.”
The Pakistan Christian Post website noted “Two Christians were killed on January 15 as they waited for bread at a bakery. Another Christian, aged 40 with two young children, was shot dead by three armed attackers while he was driving a vehicle.”
The Post could not independently verify these allegations.
Meotti, the Italian Journalist who has written extensively on Christians in the Mideast region, told the Post “In Syria Christians will be persecuted after Assad’s eventual fall, since they were the most loyal allies of the Baathist regime. Christians will be slaughtered or squeezed. From Cairo to Damascus, Arab Christian era is near to its end everywhere.”
Clifford D. May, the president of the Washington-based Foundation for Defense of Democracies and a former New York Times reporter, has long argued the persecution of Christians in numerous Muslim-majority countries is the most pressing news story ignored by the mainstream media.
He told the Post “If the situation were reversed, if such a war were being waged against Muslims, it would be the top story in every newspaper, the most urgent item at the UN, the highest priority of all the big-league human-rights groups.”
The US-based media watchdog organization the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) held on Saturday a conference titled “The Persecuted Church: Christian Believers in Peril in the Middle East.”
January 22nd, 2012, 8:12 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Just in: new Assad reform
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bwWt_qC1Ow&feature=player_embedded
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January 22nd, 2012, 8:24 pm
Tara said:
Zoo@525
Where does it say that “Bashar al Assad designates a new government..”? Bashar al Assad has absolutely no role in the AL’s plan as i understood it other than to handover the power.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:26 pm
zoo said:
#518 Jad, Norman
The plan could be satisfactory to the Russians and to Syria’s allies because all the apparatus of the Baath party will remain, the army will remain and very probably the Assad family and its allies will remain in the background.
Bashar al Assad will become the sacrified scapegoat. While the regime would release some control, its foreign policy will remain unchanged, the moslem brotherhood and Islamists will be kept on the side and there will not be US bases in Syria or peace with Israel.
In a way it a mix of the Yemen and the Egypt outcome minus the islamic component.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:28 pm
Norman said:
Ghufran,
We can not change the past but president Bashar Assad was the only one that most people felt safe with and as you know he was supported by everybody thinking that he was a puppet, then when they found out that he was not they flipped on him,
There is no chance that he will resign, he does not have to, what is the pressure on him, most people like him and nobody is comming to help the opposition, i can see and support him not running in the 2014 election but his presence in essential to make the Syrians that like him comfortable with the democratic change and the exchange of power back and forth.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:29 pm
zoo said:
#529 Tara
I gathered it from the following announcements:
Cairo (CNN) — The Arab League agreed on a path forward in Syria on Sunday that instructs President Bashar al-Assad to delegate powers to his vice president following the formation of a national unity government.
#510
“It said Mr Assad should open a dialogue with the opposition within two weeks, form a coalition government in two months, and then allow free elections.”
#513
“The president will delegate his first vice president the full power to work with national unity government to enable it to perform its task in the transitional period,” he said.
That’s why I indicated that Bashar Al Assad will nominate the national unity government.
I expect it will be clarified later
January 22nd, 2012, 8:38 pm
irritated said:
#531 Norman
Maybe he could be re-elected in free elections. No mention that he cannot re-present himself.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:40 pm
jad said:
ANN,
Thank you for bringing this scary yet interesting news in #527 on SC.
It’s the first time I read about Christians in the middle east getting together like that and speaking in the same voice in solidarity with the Syrian Christians.
I wonder if the West managed to make our region more sectarian than it used to be (since the news is based on CAMERA site) or is it just an instinct fear by the Christians of the region of being prosecuted that made them to stand together against the rise of radicalism tries to wage a war against them in the name of politics?
We didn’t see that for the Palestinian Christians, nor for the Lebanese Christians, or the Iraqi’s or the Egyptian Christians when they were under certain threats.
I find this news alarming and interesting at the same time because it’s for the first time the Christians of the region are showing such a strong support to each others based only on religious affiliation nothing more.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:43 pm
Ghufran said:
Tara and other blogmates,
This is the full text:
http://www.arableagueonline.org/wps/wcm/connect/76a9db8049e4238ba551bd526698d42c/res7444+%281%29.pdf?MOD=AJPERES
January 22nd, 2012, 8:44 pm
Norman said:
Irritated,
Part of the problem in Syria that many feels that in Syria we keep moving and change the goal post to satisfy some people, the present Syrian constitution calls for two term for the president , 7 years each, in 2014 president Assad would have been in power for 14 years, i think it is time for him to be a senior statesman and somebody else try. we have to have rules that apply to all.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:46 pm
Mawal95 said:
Here’s a translation of what’s posted by JAD # 520. It will be up in English at SANA pretty soon.
http://www.sana.sy/ara/2/2012/01/23/395958.htm
An official source of the Syrian Arab Republic states that Syria rejects the pronouncement on Syria of the Arab League Council as being outside the Arab League Plan of Action that Syria signed with the Arab League, and Syria considers it an attempted violation of Syria’s sovereignty, and blatant interference in its internal affairs, a flagrant violation of article VIII of the Arab League Charter, contrary to the objectives that the Arab League was established for, and contrary to the interests of the Syrian people.
The official source said that Syria condemns the Arab League’s pronouncement.
The source also said that the Arab League’s pronouncement ignores the ongoing implementation of the comprehensive reforms announced by President Bashar al-Assad in the field of political pluralism, especially the new Constitution, which will be put to a referendum soon. The reforms in the political institutions embody a modern and pluralist democracy. The official source added that the Arab League’s pronouncement will not deter Syria from proceeding further with its reform program and attaining security and stability during this crisis in Syria under the leadership of President Bashar al-Assad.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:46 pm
William Scott Scherk said:
Just to remind me of where I am and what I am expected to do, Tara, I had a look at the
Syria Comment Rules. I also wanted to see how much respect Joshua Landis commands with his rules.
First Joshua lays out the purpose:
The purpose of the comment section is to promote informed debate, share pertinent information and news items, and encourage constructive criticism and analysis. Although we hope to avoid any censorship, experience has taught us that it is sometimes necessary. The comment section is monitored.
Then, he lets all of us know, Messages containing any of the following elements will not be tolerated:
And, of course, a list:
— Personal attacks against other contributors;
— Racist, sexist, obscene, or otherwise discriminatory or hateful language;
— Provocations designed to derail discussions away from substantive debate into dead-end arguments;
— Links to commercial sites or posting of commercial messages;
— Threats of death or violence;
Up in the left corner, Moderator Alex’s poll has just run its course.
Of the three options, 128 votes for a Mild moderation where there would be no restriction on language, violence or frequency of posts.
Next option garnered 316 votes, and agreed to a Balanced moderation, where mild violations of Rules would be tolerated, but other more serious violations would garner Warnings, followed by editing of highly offensive comments. Ultimately, persistent violators of SC rules would be permanently banned under that scheme.
(I should note that at Off The Wall’s blog, Rules are similar to the Balanced option. As far as I know, the only one permanently banned at Walls is the account Khaled Tlass. Grotesque sectarian hate speech received cautions at first, repeated cautions, but finally the poster could not control himself and his lack of self-control and respect barred him from participating).
So … when I read a comment like “Observer, stick to your usual shit pills, they make you sound…well…the shit you are” I wonder at the poster’s self-respect and personal integrity — since this same poster has repeatedly called for calm and reason. I wonder at other posters in this thread who slap on equally dire labels on other posters.
Many such comments depress me. Too few people seem to understand the actual meaning of the Rules.
It just makes me sad. Just when everyone who cares about Syria should be – to paraphrase JAD — using their brain and logic, we have ugly, useless,and provocative statements designed to increase mutual mistrust and hate.
Do the people who intolerable invective, or who call others, not by their names, but by Evil Group (regimist, terrorist, Your Friend Aroor, Scum, Doctor Garbage Traitor, FSA TERRORIST SCUM LOVER) — do these people think they are impressing anyone with their ability to discuss? Do they think no one notices when they spin out of control and demean discussion, demean this place?
I wish everyone could and would self-moderate, look at the rules, and adjust their behaviour. But I fear that this is unlikely to happen without an Authority. And that is very sad, for Syria Comment and for Syria.
When we treat an opponent or the other side of an argument/issue as inhuman monsters deserving death or exclusion or jail or cleansing by Army, what do we become but a kind of inhuman ourselves?
January 22nd, 2012, 8:46 pm
jad said:
Zoo,
I’m ok with this plan since they produce it in April.
I also agree with your analyses of the plan results, you are correct about the outcome.
January 22nd, 2012, 8:47 pm
jad said:
WSS
(edited for personal attack)
January 22nd, 2012, 8:50 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
530. ZOOSAID:
#518 Jad, Norman
The plan could be satisfactory to the Russians and to Syria’s allies because all the apparatus of the Baath party will remain, the army will remain and very probably the Assad family and its allies will remain in the background. Bashar al Assad will become the sacrified scapegoat. While the regime would release some control, its foreign policy will remain unchanged, the moslem brotherhood and Islamists will be kept on the side and there will not be US bases in Syria or peace with Israel.In a way it a mix of the Yemen and the Egypt outcome minus the islamic component.
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That will be like the worst nightmare after all the bloodshed. Any outcome that keeps the Baaths party as the leading party constitutionally or practically is not acceptable. Syria must move beyond the Baath, look at Russia, they dumped Communism and Communist party and now are one of the thriving nations around. We must do the same as Russia by dump Baathism and the Baath as well as Baathists. We must avert a Russia outcome, where the ruling Mafia ends up the rich class. If it ends up that way, they must not have Political power. Afterward, [power transfer] will tax them and the properties they stole to the tilt, down to the toothbrush they own. Will pass laws that criminalize them for holding any foreign assets or accounts, or transferring such assets in shady way to others, they will end up in the slammer for decades, all of them, and will use State power to repatriate funds and confiscate remaining stolen Syrian wealth that way back to the Syrian treasury.
Not having peace with Israel, means shackling Syria and Syrian economy for another generation. WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, PEACE, PROSPERTY, PROGRESS.
January 22nd, 2012, 9:02 pm
jad said:
WSS,
That wasn’t a personal attack, something must be said to this WSS, his continuous attack and mentioning my name on every comment he writes must stop.
My previous comment gain:
Your continuous cheap smear campaign against me must stop.
If my comments depress you, don’t read them, I’m not here to care of what WSS thinks or wants.
I ask you to stop writing anything directed to me in anyway and to stop your smear campaign on many blogs because it’s getting to a point that I may take you to court, enough is enough.
Keep in mind, I’m Syrian, you are not. Period.
January 22nd, 2012, 9:04 pm
zoo said:
لمؤتمر الصحفي في ختام اجتماع وزراء الخارجية العرب
January 22nd, 2012, 9:05 pm
Mawal95 said:
My instant reaction to the Arab League’s proposal for a “national unity government” in Syria:
Allah Souria Bashar ou bas
Bilrouh Bildam Nafdiki Ya Bashar
As-Salam Aleiko.
January 22nd, 2012, 9:14 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
@WSS
Looks like you are the man that can reply to this since you have delete comments powers:
Why can’t Syrian Nationalist Party and Aldendeshe uses a dual English-Arabic username for posts?
For a while Aldendeshe was allowed to but now not anymore. What is the issue here please help.
January 22nd, 2012, 9:14 pm
Ghufran said:
A dose of humor from a pro regime page:
مواطن سوري زحط بالحمام و خبط رأسه على الأرض !!
الجزيرة : محاصرة شبيحة الأسد لمنزل أحد المتظاهرين السلميين و إجباره على السقوط على رأسه !
العربية : النظام السوري يجبر شعبه على الاستحمام بصابون يسبب الزحلطة !
… …
العرعور : فتوى شرعية للمتظاهرين بعدم الاستحمام بأي صابون أو شامبو من صنع او استيراد النظام الفاسق !
برهان غليون : النظام السوري يقوم باعتقال الذين يتحممون و يحتجزهم داخل الصواريخ من اجل اخفائهم عن اعين المراقبين العرب !
القرضاوي : طب و ما يتزحلطش .. حيتزلط كم واحد .. و مالو !!
مأمون الحمصي : هؤلاء العلويين الحقيرين يدخلون حمامات الشعب و يقومون بزحلطتهم .. هبوا عليهم .. انا حذرت نصرالله بأن يسحب جنوده من حماماتنا و إلا قبرناهم في البلوعات !
أمير قطر : سنحاول ارسال قوات عربية من أجل حماية الأبرياء داخل حماماتهم !
نبيل العربي : احنا حنحاول كل جهدنا عشان نوصل لحل معين يضمن للسوريين صابون ما يزحلطشهم !
الملك الأردني : يا أيها الشأب الأزيز .. نحن سنأمل ألى أدم جلب سابون سوري يزهلط !
رياض الأسعد : سنفاجأ النظام السوري بشامبو ضد الدموع ولا يزحلط رداً على صابونهم الفاسد !
أردوغان : نفذ صبرنا من صابون النظام السوري !
هيثم مناع : نحن كمعارضة نتخذ موفقاً حاسماً من هكذا صابون .. أنا أتتني عروض من أجل إدخال صابون أمريكي و لكنني رفضت !
ميشيل كيلو : ما يحصل في سوريا من زحلطة المتظاهرين أمر لا يمكن أن نتجاوزه بسهولة !
سهير الأتاسي : على الأحرار التوقف عن دفع فواتير الكهرباء و الماء المستهلكة أثناء الاستحمام !
رضوان زيادة : نحن ما منأبل بوجود سابونات بتسبب الواوا لكل الأحرار السوريين !
سعد الحريري ( على تويتر ) : وصلت معهون للصابون .. بدنا نتحمم يا جماعة !!
January 22nd, 2012, 9:15 pm
Afram said:
خلافات بين التيارين السلفي والعلماني حول اسم الجمعة وتخوفات من ‘أسلمة’ الاحتجاجات في سورية
اعتراضات واسعة في أوساط المعارضة السورية وبعض قياديي الحراك الشعبي في الداخل السوري على تسمية إحدى الجُمع الفائتة باسم ‘الجيش الحر يحميني’ بسبب ما قيل حينها أنه مؤشر على عسكرة الاحتجاجات الشعبية ضد النظام السوري، طفت إلى السطح أمس خلافات واضحة في ذات الأوساط المناوئة للسلطة في سورية حول تسمية الجمعة القادمة باسم~~ ‘إعلان الجهاد’ ~~
فق اسلام،فق فق فق فق فق
January 22nd, 2012, 9:18 pm
ann said:
Arab League Works Out Yemen-Scenario Syria Settlement Plan – January 23, 2012
http://en.ria.ru/world/20120123/170896000.html
The Arab League has worked out a new plan to settle the situation in Syria, based on the crisis resolution experience in Yemen, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani said.
Al-Thani said the plan, presented at an Arab League meeting in Cairo on Sunday, urges embattled Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to hand over power to his deputy, Vice President Farouk al-Sharaa. It also envisions the formation of a national unity government led by a person acceptable to all parties in Syria within two months.
Burhan Ghalyoun, leader of the Syrian National Council, said: “We support the League’s decisions in principle, but will thoroughly study the documents to form our final and balanced attitude toward them.”
He said the League “recognized the Syrian nation’s right to resistance, democracy and democratic elections.”
In line with the plan, the national unity government should “proclaim the establishment of a democratic political system as its goal,” and Syria should hold democratic and transparent elections monitored by Arab and foreign observers within six months.
The unity government is also urged to restore order through reforming security forces, and ensure that a new constitution is drafted, which should be approved by a nationwide referendum.
The plan envisions that an independent commission will be set up to investigate crimes against civilians.
“This plan is similar to the plan for Yemen, where there was certain progress,” the Qatari premier said.
Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh agreed in November 2011 to hand over power to his vice president in exchange for immunity from prosecution for him and his family as part of a deal with the Yemeni opposition brokered by the Gulf Cooperation Council.
The Arab ministers plan to seek approval of the proposals in the UN Security Council.
Russia, a longtime ally of Syria, has been vehemently opposing any kind of a crackdown on Assad’s regime, which has been struggling since last March to quell the wave of political protests that engulfed the country.
At least 5,000 have been killed in clashes between the government and the protesters in Syria, according to UN estimates. Syrian authorities blame the violence on armed gangs affiliated with al-Qaeda and say more than 2,000 soldiers and police have been killed.
The Arab League, a group of 22 countries, has suspended Syria’s membership in November and negotiated dispatching an observer mission to the country. The 50-strong mission, which arrived in late December, has so far failed to stop or at least decrease the bloodshed.
Russia has repeatedly insisted that the Western drive for a stronger crackdown on Syria is preparation for a “Libyan scenario.”
Rebels ousted and killed long-standing Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi in October after a months-long military standoff in which they received assistance from NATO forces.
January 22nd, 2012, 9:20 pm
jad said:
Amir
The clip you post in #528 is fake I post a warning about it earlier in #523
January 22nd, 2012, 9:39 pm
jad said:
تقرير دبلوماسي يفند الضغوط التي تعرضت لها سوريا منذ الألفين
الأسد يدفع ثمن رفضه المس بالهوية.. والغرب يسأل عن سر وحدة الجيش
داود رمال
يكشف تقرير دبلوماسي حجم الضغوط التي تعرضت لها سوريا منذ تاريخ تولي رئيسها الحالي بشار الأسد مقاليد السلطة قبل أقل من 12 عاما، الأمر الذي أدى الى وضعه بين هم الإصلاح الداخلي الذي كان يبتغيه ويسعى الى مقاربته بما أوتي من إمكانات وبين هم مواجهة استمرار محاولات تطويع النظام السوري بهدف جعله يتنازل عن ثوابته القومية.
لم تتوقف محاولات فرض التنازلات على سوريا منذ عقود طويلة ولكن في أعقاب تحرير الجنوب اللبناني في العام 2000، تضاعفت وتيرة هذه الضغوط، وكان أولها إثر أحداث الحادي عشر من ايلول 2001 ومن ثم تضاعفت الوتيرة بعد احتلال العراق في ربيع العام 2003، وتسلم دمشق دفتر الشروط الاميركية الذي حمله وزيـــر الخارجية الاميركي الاسبق كولن باول للرئيس الأسد وأبرز مضاميـــنه قطع علاقات سوريا مع حركات المقاومة في فلسطين ولبنان والعراق وقفـــل مكاتبهــا في دمشق.
هذا الاستهداف اتخذ منحى أكثر وضوحا مع خيار دمشق المضي بدعم حركات المقاومة وخاصة في العراق، وجاء الرد الأميركي عبر محاولة نزع التفويض الدولي في لبنان، فصدر القرار الدولي الرقم 1559 وما تبعه من تداعيات كبيرة وخطيرة.. وصولا الى جريمة اغتيال الرئيس الشهيد رفيق الحريري والحملة التي تعرضت لها سوريا وأدت الى إخراج جيشها من لبنان ومن ثم الحد من نفوذها وصولا الى محاولة توريطها في الجريمة مباشرة.
ويضيف التقرير الدبلوماسي أنه «في ظل الرفض السوري لأي إملاء يتصل بمسألة الصراع مع إسرائيل، انتقل الاستهداف المباشر الى الداخل السوري وفق ما نشهده اليوم من أحداث دموية خطيرة».
منذ اعتلاء بشار الأسد سدة الرئاسة في سوريا في العام 2000، برزت لديه إرادة جدية بالتطوير والإصلاح والحداثة، وقد عبّر عن هذا التوجه في خطابه الأول أمام مجلس الشعب وتاليا في مناسبات مختلفة، وبدأ عمليا في عملية التطوير والإصلاح ولكن الظروف الإقليمية وأبرزها احتلال العراق والتحديات المرتبطة به، وعوائق داخلية حالت دون إتمام الإصلاح في فترة زمنية معقولة. ولمس الغرب لا سيما الولايات المتحدة وفرنسا هذه الرغبة، إذ سمع وسطاء دوليون من الأسد شروحات لكيفية مقاربة الأزمات السورية لكنه بالقدر الذي أبدى فيه الاستعداد لحل هذه الأزمات، فإنه كان شديد الرفض للمساس بالهويــة السورية والدور السوري في المنطقة.
ما هي هذه الأزمات التي عرض الأسد حلها؟
يكشف التقرير الدبلوماسي الآتي: «من المعلوم أن الدول النامية ومنها سوريا تعاني من مجموعة أزمات وهي خمس:
– أزمة المشاركة السياسية، وهذه يعاني منها لبنان.
– أزمة المشاركة تؤدي حكما الى إنتاج أزمة الشرعية.
– أزمة المشاركة والشرعية تجعلان الدولة تضعف في مناطق معينة وتقوى في مناطق أخرى، أي ضعف في المناطق النائية يقابله سيطرة في المدن، وهذا ينتج أزمة السيطرة على الإقليم.
– أزمة السيطرة على الاقليم تؤدي الى أزمة صدقية توزيع الثروة الوطنية بصورة عادلة، لأن الثروة توزع تلقائيا في مناطق السيطرة.
– هناك أزمة خامسة وهي أم الأزمات وعندما تنوجد تتعطل المشاركة والشرعية والسيطرة وتوزيع الثروة، وهي تنتج كل الأزمات وهي أزمة الهوية السياسية والدور».
وقد عرض الأسد على وسطاء دوليين حسب التقرير «حل مجموع هذه الأزمات إلا أن الخلاف وقع حول أزمة واحدة وهي الهوية والدور، فقد وافق الأسد وعن قناعة على توجه إصلاحي يتضمن تنازلات على المستوى الداخلي من شأنها تقوية مناعة سوريا، لانه يعلم ان الازمة التي تواجهها سوريا لا يمكن حلها كأن شيئا لم يكن، لا على المستوى الداخلي ولا على مستوى علاقات سوريا الدولية.
وقد عرض الأسد حلا لأربع أزمات داخلية ورفض اي مساس بالهوية والدور. ليصطدم بحقيقة مرّة وهي أن الاميركيين يأتي في آخر اهتماماتهم المشاركة والشرعية والسيطرة وتوزيع الثروة، وجلّ اهتمامهم في الموضوع السوري هو الدور أي الهوية».
هذا الإقرار من جانب الأسد بوجود أزمات في سوريا ـ يضيف التقرير ـ «دفع الادارة الاميركية الى ان تصيب سوريا بأزمة جديدة، في ظل ضعف سيطرة سوريا على المناطق النائية بعكس المركز والمدن، وذلك في محاولة لإحداث اختراق عبر جيب او منطقة عازلة او ممر آمن لكنها فشلت حتى الآن».
حاول الأسد يضيف التقرير، «وبرغم حجم الاستهداف والضغوط التي يتعرض لها، معالجة الأزمة الاولى والثانية والثالثة والرابعة أي المشاركة والشرعية والسيطرة وتوزيع الثروة، عبر قانون جديد للأحزاب وقانون جديد للاعلام، ورفع حالة الطوارئ، ووضع دستور جديد للبلاد، وإجراء انتخابات عامة (محلية ونيابية) وتنفيذ مشاريع تنموية ضخمة وتحديدا في المناطق النائية. وقرن ذلك بمبادرة عرضها امام وسطاء دوليين تقوم على تشكيل حكومة جديدة برئاسة شخصية سورية مستقلة، وكان يهدف بذلك الى ضرب المؤامرة في مهدها، الا ان اميركا وفرنسا عارضتا هذه المبادرة التي جوبهت باستخدام ورقة الأديان والطوائف والاقليات، التي واجهها الاسد انطلاقا من مبدأ رفض صراع الاديان والطوائف والمذاهب. وبالتالي فإن المشكلة ليست في تقديم تنازلات داخلية أقر بها الأسد. بل تكمن في الخلاف على ازمة الهوية، اي ما هو دور سوريا المستقبلي في المنطقة».
هل من مخرج لهذا المأزق؟
يجيب التقرير «ما ظهر حتى الآن هو بروز خيار من اثنين:
الأول، خيار السلم عبر نهج الاصلاح، الا ان هذا الخيار لا يهم واشنطن، لأن جلّ اهتمامها هو الدور فقط وليس الإصلاح مع استمرار الأسد في رفضه تقديم اي تنازل، ويكفي الاستشهاد بما قدمه المعارض السوري برهان غليون من طرح لسوريا الجديدة حين أعلن الاستعداد للتفاوض مع إسرائيل وقطع العلاقة مع قوى المقاومة وفك التحالف الاستراتيجي مع إيران.
الثاني، وهو خيار الحرب الإقليمية، وهذا يتطلب تنسيقا سورياً ـ إيرانياً، وما مناورات «الولاية 90» والتي ستستتبع بمناورات جديدة، وكذلك المناورات العسكرية السورية الجديدة ببعدها الصاروخي إلا تحضير لهذا الخيار».
وبرغم الضخ السياسي والاعلامي، يؤكد التقرير «أن الأسد لم يقبل أن يصبح أسيراً للمصطلحات اللبنانية المذهبية والجهوية التي سادت إبان الحرب الأهلية اللبنانية واستمرت الى يومنا الحاضر، وفي ظل هذا الواقع المؤلم فإن الهدف الاميركي الحالي هو وضع سوريا في حالة من «الكوما» والانتقال الى الملف الإيراني عبر بوابة العراق بشخص نوري المالكي (رئيس الحكومة العراقية)، ولكن يبقى السؤال ما هو سر وحدة الجيش السوري»؟
http://assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionId=2057&ChannelId=48893&ArticleId=2005&Author=%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%AF%20%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84
January 22nd, 2012, 9:43 pm
jad said:
Damascus considers the AL Observer report to be objective:
«السـفير» تنشـر أبـرز بنـوده
تقرير بعثة المراقبين العرب: دمشق تعتبره «موضوعياً»
زياد حيدر
أكدت مصادر رسمية سورية لـ«السفير» أن التقرير الذي سلّمته بعثة المراقبين العرب للجنة المبادرة العربية أمس، «موضوعي»، مشيرة إلى أنه يتضمن «بعض النقاط الجيدة» ولا سيما في تأكيده على وجود العنصر المسلّح في سوريا، والمبالغات الإعلامية التي تحصل في الشأن السوري.
وحول طلب التمديد قالت المصادر إن سوريا لم تتلق بعد طلبا بالتمديد لعمل البعثة لكن التوجه السوري هو للموافقة على هذا الطلب.
وفي الآتي أهم ما ورد في تقرير بعثة المراقبين العربية:
[ التمديد للبعثة لمدة شهر آخر على أن يقوم الأمين العام للجامعة العربية بمخاطبة السلطات السورية للتوقيع على بروتوكول جديد.
[ أن يتم تدعيم البعثة بالجوانب الإدارية واللوجستية التي تمكّنها من القيام بواجباتها، وكذلك توفير الدعم الإعلامي والسياسي لخلق مناخ مؤات يساهم في إنجاز المهمة.
[ التأكيد على ضرورة التعجيل بالعملية السياسية وانطلاق الحوار الوطني بالتوازي مع مهمة البعثة من أجل توفير مناخ من الثقة يساعد في إنجاح مهمة البعثة ويحول دون إطالة أمد بقائها في سوريا من دون جدوى.
[ ثبت للبعثة وجود عنصر مسلّح غير مخاطب بالبروتوكول، وهو لا شك تطور ظهر على الأرض نتيجة الاستخدام المفرط للقوة من قبل القوات الحكومية قبل انتشار البعثة عند التصدي للاحتجاجات، التي طالبت بسقوط النظام، ويعتدي هذا العنصر في بعض القطاعات على القوى الأمنية السورية وعلى المواطنين كرد فعل، يواجه أيضا برد فعل حكومي عنيف يدفع ثمنه المواطنون الأبرياء ويؤدي إلى سقوط عدد من القتلى والجرحى.
[ لاحظت البعثة منذ انتشارها داخل سوريا أن المعارضة رحّبت بها وبأعضائها، وكان هناك اطمئنان من جانب المواطنين لتواجد البعثة، باستثناء الفترة التي أعقبت صدور بيان اللجنة الوزارية يوم 8 كانون الثاني الحالي، وما شهدته من أحداث خفتت حدتها تدريجاً.
[ لاحظت البعثة أن هناك تجاوباً من الجانب الحكومي لإنجاح مهمتها ولم تفرض أية قيود على تحرك البعثة، كما استشعرت البعثة في بعض المدن حالة من الاحتقان الشديد، والظلم والقهر الذي يعاني منه المواطنون السوريون، وهناك اقتناع لديهم بضرورة حل الأزمة السورية بصورة سلمية وفي الإطار العربي من دون تدويل، حتى يتمكنوا من العيش بسلام وأمان.
[ البعثة أُبلغت من المعارضة وبخاصة في درعا وحمص وحماه وإدلب بأن جزءاً من المعارضة لجأ إلى السلاح نتيجة لمعاناة الشعب السوري من القهر والاستبداد، وأكدت البعثة أن التفجيرات التي طاولت بعض المباني وخطوط الأنابيب والقطارات وقوات الشرطة، هي أعمال تبنّى بعضها تنظيم الجيش الحر، والآخر من جهات مسلحة تابعة للمعارضة.
[ إنهاء عمل البعثة بعد هذه الفترة القصيرة سيقضي على النتائج الإيجابية التي تحققت حتى الآن، وسينتهي الأمر ربما إلى فوضى على الأرض طالما أن جميع أطراف الأزمة غير جاهزين ولا مؤهلين حتى الآن للعملية السياسية المتعلقة بمعالجة الأزمة السورية.
[ البعثة تعاني من ضعف الدعم السياسي والإعلامي اللازم لأداء عملها، موضحاً أن البعثة لاحظت أن هناك مبالغات إعلامية في الإعلان عن طبيعة الحوادث وأعداد القتلى والمصابين نتيجة الأحداث والتظاهرات التي تشهدها بعض المدن.
[ تلقت البعثة بلاغات من جهات خارج سوريا تفيد بأن عدد المعتقلين السوريين يبلغ 16237، كما تلقت بلاغات من المعارضة الداخلية تفيد بأن عدد المعتقلين يبلغ 12005، وقد تحققت الفرق الميدانية من صحة هذه الأعداد، واتضح وجود تضارب في القوائم ومعلومات ناقصة وغير دقيقة، وأسماء مكررة، وتتواصل البعثة مع الجهات الحكومية لاستبيان حقيقة هذه الأعداد. وأوضحت بأنها سلمت الحكومة السورية كافة القوائم التي تلقتها سواء من المعارضة السورية بالداخل أو خارج سوريا، وطالبت بإطلاق سراح هؤلاء المعتقلين تنفيذاً للبروتوكول الموقّع بين الجامعة العربية والحكومة السورية.
[ تبين للبعثة أن المجموع لأعداد المعتقلين الذين أفادت الحكومة بأنها أطلقت سراحهم بعد العفو الرئاسي بلغ7604، وأن البعثة تحققت من عدد المعتقلين الذين تم إطلاق سراحهم وتبين قبل صدور مرسوم العفو 3483 معتقلاً وبعد مرسوم العفو 1669، ليكون إجمالي ما تم التأكد من أنه تم إطلاق سراحهم 5152.
[ أبرز التقرير عدداً من المعوقات التي واجهت عمل المراقبين، موضحاً بأن من أبرزها: عدم قدرة بعض المراقبين على مواكبة الموقف الصعب الذي يعد من صلب عملهم، ووجود عدد من المراقبين المتقدمين بالسن ما يحول دون قيامهم بواجبهم، بالإضافة إلى اعتذار 22 مراقباً عن عدم استكمال مهمتهم لأسباب شخصية.
[ كما اتضح عدم التزام بعض المراقبين وإخلالهم بواجباتهم وبالقسم الذي أدوه، واتصالهم بمسؤولي دولهم، ونقل ما يدور بصورة مبالغ فيها، مما أدى إلى فهم هؤلاء المسؤولين الوضع بصورة قائمة على أساس تقويم غير سليم، كما أن بعض المراقبين كان يرى حضوره إلى سوريا بمثابة رحلة ترفيهية.
[ إنه على رغم ترحيب الجانب الحكومي بالبعثة ورئيسها، إلا أن هذا الجانب حاول التعامل معها باستراتيجية محكمة لمحاولة الحد من وصولها إلى عمق المناطق، وإشغالها بقضايا تهم الجانب الحكومي، إلا أن البعثة قاومت هذا الأسلوب.
[ تعرضت البعثة لحملة إعلامية شرسة منذ بداية عملها وحتى الآن، حيث قامت بعض وسائل الإعلام بنشر تصريحات لا أساس لها، كما قامت بتضخيم الأحداث بصورة مبالغ فيها أدت إلى تشويه الحقيقة، وأن هذا نوع من الإعلام المفــبرك ســاهم بزيادة الاحتقان بين أفراد الشعب السوري وأساء لعمل المراقبين.
[ حدد التقرير الاحتياجات الأساسية للبعثة في حال التجديد لها، وهي عدد 100 مراقب من العناصر الشابة، ويفضل العسكريون منهم، وعدد 30 سيارة مصفّحة، وسترات واقية خفيفة، وأجهزة تصوير محمولة على السيارات، وأجهزة اتصال حديثة، ومناظير ميدان ليلية ونهارية.
[ طلب التقرير زيادة الموارد المالية للبعثة خمسة أضعاف، لتبلغ 5 ملايين دولار، بدلاً من مليون دولار، حتى تتمكن البعثة من القيام بمهامها.
http://assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionId=2057&ChannelId=48897&ArticleId=2013&Author=%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AF%20%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%B1
January 22nd, 2012, 9:46 pm
ann said:
AFP: Syria rejects Arab League call for power change – 23 January 2012
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n269260
Damascus. Syria on Monday rejected an Arab League plan for President Bashar al-Assad to transfer power to his deputy, calling the initiative a “flagrant interference,” state TV quoted an official as saying, AFP reports.
“Syria rejects the decisions taken which are outside an Arab working plan, and considers them an attack on its national sovereignty and a flagrant interference in internal affairs,” the official was quoted as saying.
January 22nd, 2012, 9:46 pm
William Scott Scherk said:
SNP says: @WSS … Why can’t Syrian Nationalist Party and Aldendeshe uses a dual English-Arabic username for posts?
I do not know, SNP, seriously. I had thought, stupidly I guess, that you and Aldendeshe were the same person. But, hey, I am still trying without success to find a site on the internet that tells about the SNP (without getting it all mixed up with the SSNP), so what do I know?
Is it that you want to change the user name on your account, the SNP account? or did you want each of the two folks, you and Aldendeshe, to change user name?
All I can suggest is that you write directly to Alex at the address above right — he mentions sometimes instructions for the ‘programmer’ of SC and is a skilled blogger and site-builder — it could simply be that you are stuck with the username you signed up with because of the way things are designed. It could be that Arabic+English cannot get past some software logjam. I don’t know. Ask an expert, directly.
If that doesn’t get you an answer, try writing directly to Joshua Landis at the address above. I have always received a response when I contacted him by email.
JAD says:
WSS,
That wasn’t a personal attack, something must be said to this WSS, his continuous attack and mentioning my name on every comment he writes must stop.
My previous comment gain:
Your continuous cheap smear campaign against me must stop.
If my comments depress you, don’t read them, I’m not here to care of what WSS thinks or wants.
I ask you to stop writing anything directed to me in anyway and to stop your smear campaign on many blogs because it’s getting to a point that I may take you to court, enough is enough.
Keep in mind, I’m Syrian, you are not. Period.
I am sorry, JAD. None of this makes any sense to me, and bears no relation to what I had to say about moderation and what makes me sad. If you do not wish to be criticized or countered, then you are going to have to live in Tishreen Palace and command militias to enforce your SHUT UP order.
I had no idea I am on a smear campaign on many blogs. Do tell. As for meeting you in court, sure. It’s a lot more than your usual targets get, a hearing, whatever their sins, be they Terrorist Scum, Pathological Liars, FSA TERROR Army or Doctor Garbage Traitor.
Let’s just each follow The Rules and all will be fine, friend.
January 22nd, 2012, 9:49 pm
jad said:
Hammoudeh managed to ignore the report with the support of the KSA:
سوريا | شهر إضافي لبعثة المراقبين … واللجوء إلى مجلس الأمن لـ«الدعم»
العرب يستنسخون مبادرة الحل اليمني
“وبحسب مصادر مطلعة لـ«الأخبار»، فإنه خلال اجتماع اللجنة بدأ الدابي بعرض تقريره الذي يحوي معلومات تناقض معظم ما يجري تداوله بشأن الأزمة السورية. وبدأ يتلو شهادات لمراقبين، ذاكراً أسماءهم. وقال إن هذا التقرير مستمد لشرعيته من الصلاحية التي منحها الوزراء للمراقبين. وأعرب عن أسفه لسحب السعودية المراقبين، فطلب سعود الفيصل الكلام، قائلاً: «إيش هاد، يعترض على قرار أخذته المملكة العربية السعودية». فاعتذر الدابي قائلاً: «أنا متأسف». الدابي قال كلاماً يفيد بأن جزءاً كبيراً من الأراضي السورية يشهد حياة طبيعية، فسأله سعود الفيصل: إذاً، كيف قتل الـ 6000؟ فرد الدابي قائلاً: في الوقت الذي كنا فيه، لم تحصل عمليات قتل بأعداد كبيرة، ولا أعمال عنف واسعة.
عندها اقترح وزير الخارجية القطري التصويت على المبادرة، وهو ما فسرته مصادر دبلوماسية عربية بأنه محاولة للتغطية على تقرير الدابي. وظهر الفخ من خلال إطالة اجتماع اللجنة الوزارية الذي أدى إلى تأجيل اجتماع وزراء الخارجية. وبحسب المصادر، فإن وزير الخارجية اللبناني، عدنان منصور، حاول إدخال تعديلات على كل فقرة في القرار، لكنه لم ينجح، باستثناء تعديل الفقرة المتعلقة بالدعوة إلى تأليف حكومة وحدة وطنية، إذ كانت الصيغة تنص على أن مجلس وزراء الخارجية العرب يقرر تأليف حكومة وحدة وطنية سورية، فاعترض الوزير اللبناني، قائلاً إن «ما يجب أن يتضمنه القرار هو دعوة الحكومة السورية إلى تأليف حكومة وحدة وطنية».
وخلال كلمته في الاجتماع الوزاري، طالب منصور بصدور قرار يرفع تعليق عضوية سوريا في الجامعة العربية وبرفع العقوبات الاقتصادية عنها، وإذا ما اقتضى الأمر طرح الموضوع على التصويت. وأشار إلى أن ما يلفت في تقرير الدابي هو «تأكيده في أكثر من بند على تبادل إطلاق النار من الجيش والمعارضة، وهذا يؤكد ما كانت تتجاهله جهات عربية وتنفيه المعارضة ومن يدعمها من أنها معارضة سلمية غير مسلحة». وتابع إن «لغة التقرير تؤكد أن هناك نزاعاً بين طرفين اثنين». ورأى أن «ما يزيد الأزمة تعقيداً هو المبالغات الإعلامية التي تتحدث عن طبيعة الحوادث وأعداد القتلى، وهو ما يشير إليه التقرير».
وكان مسؤول رفض الكشف عن اسمه قد أعلن سابقاً أن «عدد المراقبين قد يرفع الى حوالى 300، أي تقريباً ضعف عددهم الحالي»، مضيفاً إن «العديد من الدول العربية رفضت فكرة إرسال قوات عربية الى سوريا». وقال إن «أهم مطالب رئيس البعثة هو دعم فرق المراقبين إعلامياً لأن البعثة تعرضت لهجمة إعلامية كبيرة».
إلى ذلك، التقى وزير الخارجية السعودي الأمير سعود الفيصل، على هامش الاجتماع، رئيس المجلس الوطني السوري المعارض برهان غليون الموجود في القاهرة مع وفد من قيادات المجلس للتشاور حول الأوضاع في سوريا.
وأكد المجلس الوطني السوري أنه يستعد لإيفاد بعثة الى مجلس الأمن لمطالبته بالتدخل لحماية المدنيين في سوريا. وفي وقت متأخر من ليل أمس، عرض المكتب التنفيذي للمجلس الوطني، خلال مؤتمر صحافي في القاهرة، «تقريراً مضاداً» لتقرير بعثة المراقبين مكوناً من 100 صفحة ويستند الى «شهادات 15 مراقباً» من المشاركين في بعثة الجامعة العربية، اضافة الى شهادات الناشطين. وقال غليون، خلال المؤتمر، إن «قرار وزراء الخارجية العرب يعبر عن الأثر الكبير الذي بدأ يحدثه كفاح الشعب السوري، وإن المجلس سيعكف على دراسة المبادرة العربية ويتخذ منها موقفاً مفصلاً».
(الأخبار، أ ف ب، رويترز، يو بي آي)”
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/33390
January 22nd, 2012, 9:54 pm
Ghufran said:
Libya is at the verge of total collapse of the state and whatever is left of its institution. Western governments are still keeping more than $ 100 billion in Libyan money.
January 22nd, 2012, 10:03 pm
jad said:
WSS,
I guess you didn’t get the message yet, here you go more CLEAR:
DO NOT WRITE ME ANYTHING AND DO NOT WRITE ABOUT ME ANYTHING
‘None of this makes any sense to me,’ Of course it doesn’t, ‘puffing’ doesn’t help you remember what you wrote or where you wrote it.
I’m not interested in having any dialogue/argument whatsoever about anything with someone like you and finally don’t be too sure of your position, when things come serious you will be nailed in the court for harassment.
“Let’s just each follow The Rules and all will be fine, friend.”
You follow the rule of stop being obsessed with JAD and you will be fine.
“Friend:??? I don’t think so!
This is the last comment to you, WSS, and I appreciate if you don’t reply to me AT ALL from now on. (I’m sure that someone like you won’t stop, but try)
January 22nd, 2012, 10:08 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
FSA control Douma, and Harasta Harasta is 7 Km from Damascus
God bless FSA
January 22nd, 2012, 10:10 pm
Husam said:
William Scott Scherk said:
(I should note that at Off The Wall’s blog, Rules are similar to the Balanced option. As far as I know, the only one permanently banned at Walls is the account Khaled Tlass. Grotesque sectarian hate speech received cautions at first, repeated cautions, but finally the poster could not control himself and his lack of self-control and respect barred him from participating).
WSS, not totally true. Remember Aboud, the very same personality that got banned here? Well this obsessed die-hard anti-baathist bully has immunity on OTW’s blog. I got repeatedly insulted and OTW turned a blind eye. So rules are meant to be broken so it seems, depends on who you sleep with. So I left, for the same reasons I left here.
I am not looking to contribute here as I can’t stand the filth and perfer to skim through SC’s mud for interesting news I missed.
January 22nd, 2012, 10:20 pm
ghufran said:
majed,
the regime is now using Zabadani as a model in its dealing with Damascus.Douma and Harasta are the new Zabadani but there is still security forces and police in them,the army is withdrawing which is a measure I support.This is done through negotiation with community leaders to keep peace and reduce blood shed,I hope this continues,the FSA must respect this choice by the people and stick to its original goal of protecting civilians instead of attacking the army anywhere it can.
January 22nd, 2012, 10:26 pm
William Scott Scherk said:
JAD, I will choose to mention whatever I want on here. I will mention you by name if and when I want, and this will bear no relation to the post above in which you ORDER me to stop doing things you do not like.
If you wish to take me to court for harassment, please talk to a lawyer first. He will advise a couple of aspirins, a cold cloth and perhaps a nap.
I think what you have said is that you yourself will never again reply to anything I say. Which is fair enough, brother. I suggested above that we folks here bring ourselves under moderation and obey the rules that explicitly guide us all, every last one of us here. If you cannot bring yourself to control yourself, that is your problem, not mine.
That said, I can feel your distress and anger from Vancouver. I feel bad for you and for all Syrians at home and in exile or flight. It is a hard, hard time. People are at risk of death every single day, and many great (and awful) forces of dubious probity are stiffing up as many prejudices and fears as possible, it seems.
I am your standard kind of Canadian who has a big heart. Big enough to understand some of your struggles, and big enough to excuse you when you blow your top and begin to rant.
January 22nd, 2012, 10:28 pm
jad said:
Lebanon may be in trouble, Alqaeda coordinate with FSA and their ‘jihadist’ control the weapon smuggling and the illegal corridors between Syria and Lebanon.
البحث عن أمير لبلاد الشام [1 / 3] | رُسُل القاعدة وصلوا إلى لبنان: حيّ على الجهاد
“لن يبقى لبنان أرض نصرة، سيصبح، قريباً، أرض جهاد. خلاصة لم يعلنها تنظيم القاعدة الأصولي بعد، لكن الحركة الكثيفة للسلفيين الجهاديين تنبئ بذلك. المعلومات تؤكد وصول موفدين من دول عربية عدة إلى لبنان لاستطلاع الأرضية. وتكشف الوقائع الميدانية عن عملٍ حثيث لتنظيم صفوف المقاتلين. هنا خلاصة لقاءات عقدتها «الأخبار» مع سلفيين جهاديين، في الأشهر الأربعة الماضية، بقاعاً وشمالاً وجنوباً وعاصمةً”
“يبدأ الشيخ الجلسة بسؤال عن الأحوال، «فأنتم أهل الصحافة أدرى بما يجري». يدور الحديث بين الحضور حول الأحداث في سوريا. يصعب تمييز اللهجات، رغم البصمة السورية الواضحة؛ إذ إن لهجة أهالي القرى الحدودية تتشابه إلى حد بعيد مع اللهجة السورية. لا يخفي الشيخ دعمه لـ«الثورة في سوريا عبر توفير ما أمكن من سلاح للمجاهدين»، لكنه لا يلبث أن يشير إلى أن «نقل السلاح عبر لبنان تراجع كثيراً هذه الأيام، بسبب سيطرة رجال الجيش الحر على مخازن أسلحة في سوريا».
عن العلاقة مع «الجيش الحر»، يشير الشيخ إلى أن التنسيق بين هذا «الجيش والإسلاميين الجهاديين ليس خافياً». يؤكد أنهما «ليسا طرفاً واحداً، لكن العلاقة بينهما تتقاطع عند أكثر من نقطة. إضافة إلى الرابط الديني بينهما لكونهما ينتميان إلى الطائفة السنية المسلمة، فإنهما يتعاونان ضد عدو واحد يتمثل بالنظام السوري. كذلك فإن إمساك السلفيين الجهاديين بالمفاصل الحدودية بين لبنان وسوريا وبين سوريا والعراق يمثّل بيئة حاضنة لهذا الجيش للتعامل مع المهرّبين من أجل إدخال الأشخاص والسلاح».”
” يقول الشيخ إن الشخص المعني هو حمزة القرقوز. سوري في منتصف العشرينيات من العمر، من قياديي «القاعدة» ويتولى التواصل مع «المجاهدين» في لبنان وسوريا والعراق والتنسيق معهم. يؤكد أن القرقوز «كان موجوداً في هذا المنزل» في اليوم السابق. يتسلم الملثّمان زمام الحديث، ويؤكدان أنهما كانا موجودين في المنزل الذي دهمه عناصر المخابرات بحثاً عن القرقوز. بدا الزهو واضحاً في صوتيهما وهما يرويان كيف انتزعا الأسلحة من عناصر الاستخبارات بعدما فوجئ هؤلاء بعدد المسلّحين الذين كانوا في المنزل، وكيف غادر القرقوز من باب خلفي للمنزل بعدما عرّف أمام عناصر المخابرات عن نفسه!”
“في المقابل، يسرد مصدر أمني لـ «الأخبار» رواية استخبارات الجيش. فيذكر أنه بعد عملية رصد ومتابعة، توفّرت معلومات عن وجود قيادي في تنظيم «القاعدة» في أحد المنازل في عرسال. توزّع عناصر الاستخبارات على أربع سيارات داهمت المنزل حيث قُبض على القرقوز. ويضيف المصدر أن مسؤول الدورية ارتأى أن يُجري مع الموقوف تحقيقاً ميدانياً سريعاً، علّه يتمكن من توقيف آخرين، «وهنا كان الخطأ الجسيم الذي ارتكبه عناصر الاستخبارات، فقد استدرجهم الموقوف إلى كمين من دون أن يدروا. أخبرهم أنهم إذا دهموا منزلاً معيّناً فإنهم سيقبضون على أحد أمراء تنظيم القاعدة. وقع عناصر الاستخبارات في الفخ. دهموا المنزل المذكور، فأطبق عليهم المسلّحون وانتزعوا منهم القرقوز الذي ألقى عليهم التحية متهكماً قبل أن يغادر. فيما جرّد المسلّحون عناصر الاستخبارات من أسلحتهم قبل أن يطردوهم».”
“في موضوع «القاعدة» يدور النقاش في لبنان حول كلمتي «الممر» و«المقر». فيما يبدو هذا التنظيم غير معني بكل هذه النقاشات. المعلومات المتقاطعة مع أكثر من مصدر، وفي أكثر من منطقة، تشير إلى أن «القاعدة» يشقّ طريقه بتصميم وأن الوقت ربما بات قريباً لاستيقاظ كل «الخلايا النائمة»… فقد «اشتاق المجاهدون إلى لذة الجهاد».”
“القبضة الأمنيّة للقاعدة
يسيطر المسلّحون على معظم المعابر غير الشرعية على الحدود اللبنانية مع سوريا. للوهلة الأولى، تعتقد أن هؤلاء مهرّبون. الانطباع لديك لا يلبث أن يتغيّر. يُخبرك أحدهم أن هؤلاء من «الإخوة المجاهدين». تعلم أن هناك نحو 150 مسلّحاً ينتشرون على الأراضي الوعرة الممتدة بين لبنان وسوريا. ينتمون إلى جنسيات مختلفة، أبرزها اللبنانية والسورية. يخبرك الرجل نفسه أن بينهم قرابة خمسين لبنانياً منخرطين في العمل الجهادي. الفكرة لا تزال غير واضحة في رأسك. فالتمييز بين المهربين والمقاتلين لا يزال صعباً، وماهية العلاقة مع المهرّبين ملتبسة. يتدخل أحد «الإخوة» ليشرح أن المجاهدين يستخدمون المهرّبين. يتحدث الأخ عن دفعات عينية ومالية تُفرض على المهرّبين. يذكر أنهم يأخذون منهم مازوتاً ومواد غذائية، ويتحدث عن مبالغ مالية يدفعها أولئك لإمرار شحناتهم. تسأله، «إذاً تأخذون منهم خوّة؟»، فيضحك قائلاً: «لا. ليست خوّات.. إنها تبرّعات». تسترسل مستفسراً إن رفض أحدهم الدفع، فيؤكد لك أن الجميع يلتزم بها عن طيب خاطر، وإذا رفض أحدهم فإنه سيُمنع تلقائياً من المرور في الاتجاهين. يخبرك أن المهرّبين يساعدونهم في نقل السلاح والمواد الغذائية والجرحى إلى القرى البقاعية والشمالية. يطول الحديث عن الأساليب المتّبعة للتهريب، فيدخل بعض «الإخوة» على خط الحديث، ويستذكر أحدهم كيف كان المهرّب في الماضي يدفع «رشى» للهجانة السورية لكي يمر وشحنته. أما اليوم، فيشير إلى أنها استُبدلت بالتبرعات التي تذهب لـ«دعم أهل السنّة والجماعة في ثورتهم على الطاغوت».
مجاهدون مغاربة وجزائريون
أكدت التحقيقات الأمنية أن معظم مقاتلي فتح الإسلام الذين شاركوا في معارك نهر البارد عام 2007 دخلوا من مناطق البقاع الشمالي والشمال اللبناني، وبالتحديد وادي خالد. ويروي المهرّب م. ع. من وادي خالد، والذي أوقف لسنوات عدة بتهمة إيواء عناصر من القاعدة، لـ « الأخبار» تفاصيل تهريب ثلاثة مقاتلين من تنظيم «القاعدة» عبر الحدود السورية إلى لبنان، من دون أن يكون، بداية، على علم بهويتهم الحقيقية. ويذكر المهرّب اللبناني أن مهرّباً سورياً طلب منه إيصال ثلاثة أشخاص من الجنسية المغربية مقابل 30 دولاراً على الشخص الواحد. طلب م . مزيداً من المال، فأجابه المهرّب السوري بأن هذا المبلغ هو كل ما في حوزتهم، أضف إلى أنه لن يخسر شيئاً فهم على طريقه، باعتبار أنه كان مكلفاً إيصال «نقلة مازوت». اقتنع المهرب وأركبهم معه، وعندما وصلوا إلى الوادي أخبروه بأن من يفترض أن يكونوا في استقبالهم لم يأتوا. فاستضافهم في منزله لمدة ثلاثة أيام قبل أن يغادروا بعدها من دون أن يسمع عنهم شيئاً. مرّت الأيام، ليستدعى بعد أكثر من سنة ويسجن بتهمة إيواء عناصر إرهابية.
حالة أخرى، رواها سلفي جهادي لـ «الأخبار » عن أحد المهرّبين الذي قرر في احدى المرّات احتجاز «مجاهدين من الجزائر» مقابل طلب الحصول على فدية. يذكر الراوي أن «الأخوة» تحركوا بسرعة لتدارك الأمر، فأرسلوا «مجموعة حررت الشابين، ولقّنت المهرّب درساً قاسياً».
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/33336
January 22nd, 2012, 10:28 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
@ WSS
Syrian Nationalist Party – الحزب القومي السوري
Aldendeshe Said: معتز الدندشي
The reason why you would think so is that, no one but me allowed to makes comments publicly. Imad in Amsterdam-Holland uses the same secure proxy gate to post what I tell him to sometime. But I like to have the liberty of using my own name to post, in case others in SNP don’t agree with the comment or not related to them. We have been debating the website for a month, debating changes in emblems and colors to look less fascistic and threatening to Syrians, Jews and Russians..others, looking more main-stream without losing rightwing extremist appeal (strong branding and appeal to the Syrian Market is going to be hard choices). There are also non-resolved or finalized political issues regarding various policies and strategies SNP needs to permanently adopt into a charter form. We are getting closer to the proper ideas and makeup for a “Syrian based Party”, but nothing will be finalized until May2012, after April annual business meetings.
The request to change into using on posts dual language is to start build keywords and permits search engines ranking when the site is up ( copy and paste the Arabic names above into google search to see what I mean), which will be in Arabic only targeting Syrians only. Internet use will blow out when Syria and its economy are free from the Baathist Mafia Monopoly.
If any Syrian has any idea, something wants to see on the site, policies that the party should adopt, or you like to contribute materials, will be happy to hear from you before publishing.
On another subject, you got to read this:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1659/370/Secret_Bilderberg_Gold_Treaty_Funding_Of_Extraterrestrial_Projects_Exposed.html
January 22nd, 2012, 10:38 pm
Ghufran said:
The AL plan will receive modifications and additions before it becomes a starting point in ending the Syrian crisis. Hawks in the regime and the opposition will not accept the middle ground, but most Syrians will be receptive to a modified plan that respects checks and balances.
Read what is not included in the plan: no mention of asking Bashar to resign.
January 22nd, 2012, 10:42 pm
Norman said:
Husam,
It is good to see you here, i promise to be on my best behavior, and try to keep everybody else too.
January 22nd, 2012, 10:47 pm
jad said:
#536 is right in his observation, the moderates in the middle are more flexible and they would accept to start working with the plan and modify it to be accepted by the majority of Syrians, while the radical from both side will make life in the coming day as bloody and as miserable as they could, we are heading toward a tough days ahead.
قدري جميل : إذا لم تشكل حكومة وحدة وطنية في أسابيع فلن يكون لها معنى
دمشق..
رأى الأمين العام لحزب \”الإرادة الشعبية\” المعارض قدري جميل أنه إذا لم يجر تشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية خلال الأسابيع القليلة المقبلة فلن يكون لها معنى لأن البلاد ستكون أمام أوضاع جديدة.
وشدد جميل في اتصال مع صحيفة محلية على ضرورة أن تكون هذه الحكومة المزمعة ذات صلاحيات استثنائية معلنة ومؤقتة تجمع الحزب الحاكم والمعارضة. موضحاً أن أمامها استحقاقات أولها الاستفتاء على الدستور، والثاني الذي سيكون نقطة فاصلة هو انتخاب مجلس شعب على أساس الدستور الجديد وقانون الأحزاب. مشيراً إلى أنها إذا أنجزت هذين الاستحقاقين وأطلق سراح المعتقلين وتمت محاسبة من قاموا بالإجرام بحق الشعب السوري والتعويض عن المتضررين وإنهاء ملف الإصلاحات فإنها بذلك تكون قد حققت إنجازات جيدة.
ولفت جميل إلى أن المعارضة الوطنية عندما اقترحت تشكيل حكومة الوحدة الوطنية كان المقصود منها أن الوضع في البلاد يتطلب توحيد كل القوى الوطنية من أجل تأمين الخروج الآمن من الأزمة.
وقال: الفكرة كانت تعني أن الحكومة يجب أن يكون لها برنامج هدفه الوصول للمصالحة وإلى الإصلاحات وتنفيذها لا مجرد أن تبقى قرارات ومراسيم، مؤكداً أن هذا الاقتراح \”له صلاحية زمنية\”. معرباً عن اعتقاده أن سورية بأمس الحاجة لتشكيل هذه الحكومة وكل تأخير يتسبب بخسائر كبرى\”.
شام برس
http://www.champress.net/index.php?q=ar/Article/view/111377
January 22nd, 2012, 10:54 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
It all depends on Russian response, in the past Russia called for AL plan, the only thing that the regime may get is Bashar may ask for immunity, in Yemen members of the opposition negotiate immunity, to Saleh,Bashar has commited so many crimes,and killed over ten thousand it will be hard to give him immunity,the only thing I believe he can get is allow him to go to Iran or Russia, but he will live like a pariah,in self exile,He no longer has a lot of money,as his money will be frozen.
How much time bashar has left? as bad as things are going on he may not have long time,the syrian people made up their mind Bashar must go along with his close circle.
January 22nd, 2012, 11:20 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: JAD THE BAD BAD BAD
RE: “…DO NOT WRITE ME ANYTHING AND DO NOT WRITE ABOUT ME ANYTHING…”
Screw you, little Bro…
January 23rd, 2012, 12:13 am
irritated said:
Ghufran #563
Without the resignation of Bashar as part of the plan, the SNC will never accept to enter in a dialog with the government “within two weeks” which is the key of the solution.
Unless the SNC is bypassed in the dialog, the plan is dead at birth.
January 23rd, 2012, 12:24 am
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Right now, Syrians of all political shades must put Baathism and Arab Nationalism, Palestine and Iran behind them, and must move forward to a better and more promising future under the banner of Peace, Prosperity, Progress, we all Syrians must join together to build this promising future.
January 23rd, 2012, 12:34 am
jad said:
Mr. William Scott Scherk,
I just checked with my lawyer, it seems that I don’t need any aspirin, you may need them, what you are doing is called ‘Stalking’ in the law terms and since you are Canadian, that will make the case easy to follow with good result for my case, and in your situation evidence can be very easily collected including dates and times from different blogs and the IP of your comments will be collected to prove that it was coming from you personally and not from someone else, so please try not to test me, I already know that you were trying to know who I am and that is weakening your position, so from now on, you don’t communicate with me directly or indirectly as I asked you, and keep your comments to the subject at hand on Syria Comments.
I’ve been asked by my layer to make you aware of this so you understand your limit, she also asked me to give you this definition that will make it more clear for you in case you decided to keep the cyber ‘Stalking’ behaviors:
[Please send him this definition on my behalf:
What is stalking?
Stalking is behaviour that may – in some cases – be criminal harassment under section 264 of the Criminal Code of Canada. Stalking is criminal harassment if a person does any of the following things, knowing that it causes you to reasonably fear for your safety or the safety of anyone you know:
repeatedly follow you, or anyone you know.
repeatedly communicate with you, or anyone you know, directly or indirectly.
repeatedly watch you, or anyone you know, or lurk around your home, workplace, or any other place you happen to be
engage in any threatening conduct directed at you or a member of your family
Even if the person doing these things has not been told or doesn’t know that you fear for your safety or the safety of anyone you know, if they should have known, then these behaviours may still be criminal harassment.
A person can be stalking even if they don’t physically hurt anyone or damage any property. The law is designed to protect psychological, emotional, and physical safety.
Stalking may start with conduct that seems more annoying than dangerous. Often, the conduct is legal and even socially acceptable, if it’s just an isolated incident. But when it’s repeated, it may scare the victim. Conduct such as following someone, or sending gifts or letters, may become intimidating if done continually and against the person’s wishes.]
Thank you.
January 23rd, 2012, 1:48 am
jad said:
Walid Almouallem send a message to Alarabi telling him that Syria will face terrorist attacks by force:
وليد المعلم في رسالة للعربي: سنواجه الأعمال الإرهابية بالقوة
اعلنت سوريا للجامعة العربية إنها “تؤكد التزامها الكامل والدقيق ببروتوكول المراقبين وخطة العمل العربية لحل الأزمة السورية”. وأضاف وزير الخارجية السوري وليد المعلم في رسالة إلى الأمين العام لجامعة الدول العربية نبيل العربي قبيل انطلاق اجتماعات وزراء الخارجية العرب بمقر الأمانة العامة للجامعة أمس، أنه “في ما يتعلق بسحب المظاهر المسلحة من الشوارع، فإن الحكومة السورية قامت بسحب جميع هذه المظاهر، وذلك على مرأى ومسمع من المراقبين العرب”.
وأوضح المعلم في رسالته التي اطلعت “الشرق الأوسط” على نسخة منها، أنه “في ما يتعلق بإطلاق سراح المعتقلين، فإن الرئيس بشار الأسد أصدر مرسوما بالإفراج عن مئات المعتقلين قبل بضعة أيام وشاهد المراقبون ذلك وتأكدوا منه بالفعل، على حد ما ورد في رسالة المعلم”.
أما في ما يتعلق بالسماح لوسائل الإعلام العربية بدخول سوريا، فقد منحت الحكومة السورية، وفقا لرسالة المعلم، الموافقة لكل القنوات ووسائل الإعلام التي طلبت ذلك. ولكن المعلم أشار من جهة أخرى وفي ما يخص عمليات وقف العنف إلى أن “الحكومة السورية التزمت بهذا البند ومارست سياسة ضبط النفس، وهو الأمر الذي أغرى الجماعات المسلحة بالقيام بمزيد من أعمال القتل في صفوف قوات الأمن والمدنيين”.
وأوضح المعلم في رسالته أن حكومة بلاده “لن تقف مكتوفة الأيدي أمام هذه الأعمال الإرهابية، وأنها ستواجهها بكل قوة”.
الإثنين 23 كانون الثاني 2012،
http://aawsat.com/details.asp?section=4&article=660206&issueno=12109
January 23rd, 2012, 1:58 am
jad said:
انسحاب السعودية من لجنة المراقبين يربك قطر ويغيّب مشهد التضامن المفترض
حضر الملف السوري على طاولة وزراء الخارجية العرب في القاهرة، فغاب مشهد التضامن المفترض ليحل محله الانقسام العامودي الحاد الذي ظهر من خلال عدة مشاهدات ومفارقات لافتة، ليس أوّلها تقرير رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب محمود احمد الدابي الذي ساوى بين القوات السورية والمسلحين من حيث استخدام السلاح في الشارع، فاتهم مجموعات مسلحة كما وصفها التقرير الرسمي باستخدام القنابل الحرارية والقذائف المضادة ضد القوات الحكومية والمواطنين وعدد من المنشآت الخدماتية والاقتصادية، كما وجه أصابع الاتهام باتجاه بعض وسائل الاعلام التي تقوم بتشويه الحقيقة بالاعتماد على “فبركات اعلامية” بحسب التعبير الأمر الذي يؤدي إلى مزيد من الاحتقان، ولا آخرها إعلان المملكة العربية السعودية صراحة عن سحب مراقبيها من البعثة العربية العاملة في سوريا، مرورا بالموقف القطري الذي وارب الباب دون أن يقفله بالكامل، من خلال التذكير بموقف بلاده الرسمي المحبذ لارسال قوات عربية لحقن الدماء السورية، فضلا عن اقتراح الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي تكليفه بالتواصل مع مجلس الامن لدعم عمل المراقبين العرب في سوريا.
وفي القراءة الأولى لما حصل، يرى دبلوماسي لبناني مخضرم أنّ نتائج الاجتماع العربي لم تخرج عن نطاق المتوقع، ولم تأت بشيء جديد سوى تسليط الضوء على ولاءات الدول العربية المختلفة، وتشابك مصالحها الفردية. فخلافا لما يحاول البعض الترويج له من ان الجامعة امهلت النظام السوري شهرا اضافيا لاعادة الهدوء إلى الشارع السوري من خلال عقلنة المواقف، تشير المعلومات والمتابعات إلى ان كل دولة انطلقت من زاوية مختلفة، فالمملكة العربية السعودية ربطت الازمة السورية وموقفها من التطورات هناك، بموقف سوريا وايران من ملف البحرين الذي يشكل الخاصرة السعودية الرخوة، باعتبار ان المنامة ليست سوى الحديقة السعودية الخلفية، بينما انطلقت قطر على ما يبدو من واقع التطورات والتداعيات، ليس فقط على الساحة العربية، بل الدولية عموما، فالانكفاء الاميركي الناجم عن انشغال واشنطن بادارة ملفاتها الاكثر اهمية والحاحا، يفرض على القيادة القطرية التقاطع مع الموقف الغربي من خلال الامساك بالعصا من منتصفها، بانتظار ما ستحمله الاسابيع القليلة المقبلة من مواقف وتطورات.
في الموازاة برز الموقف المصري منسجما مع تطورات الشارع المصري الذي افرز مجلسا للشعب يحمل عنوانا اسلاميا واضحا، بحيث بات الوضع مشابها لذلك السائد في عدد من الدول العربية التي عانت من نتائج الربيع العربي. وبالتالي فان التشدد في الموضوع السوري قد يجر عليها مزيدا من الارباكات الداخلية، بحسب الدبلوماسي المذكور.
وبالنسبة لانسحاب المراقبين السعوديين من سوريا، يعتبر الدبلوماسي ان المملكة المنشغلة باطفاء النيران المشتعلة من حولها تعاني من تصدعات كبيرة تفرض عليها مثل هذه المواقف المتشددة، فالتسليم بنجاح المبادرة العربية يعني عودة مظفرة لسوريا إلى الجامعة العربية، وبالتالي بدء عملية تصفية حساب سورية لا يعرف احد مدى خطورتها على سائر الانظمة التي دعمت مشروع اسقاط الاسد.
January 23rd, 2012, 2:02 am
majedkhaldoun said:
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/01/23/189965.html
American military ship crossed Hermuz strait,along with british military ship.
Iran better think twice before blocking the strait
January 23rd, 2012, 2:20 am
Mina said:
In case anyone has missed this:
http://creativesyria.com/syriapage/?p=53
A good summary of the last ten months.
January 23rd, 2012, 3:06 am
Badr said:
The Syrians are on their own trying to break the stalemate, till who knows what and when!
January 23rd, 2012, 3:33 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
FSA (Fuk..g Syrians Apes)
Friends of WSS (What a Syrian Sh..t)
أقدم مسلحون على شنق المواطن ( ماهر- م) بواسطة حبل على شجرة في ناحية كفرتخاريم بريف ادلب ، يوم الأحد .
و قال أحد أبناء المنطقة في اتصال هاتفي لعكس السير ان “مسلحين هاجموا منزل المغدور و اطلقوا النار عليه ، ومن ثم أقدموا على امساكه و شنقه بواسطة حبل تم ربطه على شجرة ، و تركوه متدلياً دون ان يستطيع اي شخص الاقتراب لانزاله “.
و اضاف المصدر ان ” المسلحين اقدموا على قتل ( م ) بحجة انه يتعامل مع الدولة “.
و قال موطن آخر لعكس السير ان” اشتباكاً وقع بين المغدور و المسلحين عندما حاولوا اقتحام منزله، الا ان الأول فرغت ذخيرته ما أدى الى وقوعه بأيديهم ، ليقوموا بعدها بشنقه “.
يشار الى ان المغدور متزوج وله أولاد “.
عكس السير
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January 23rd, 2012, 4:19 am
Juergen said:
Mina 574
I would add Maysaloons response to round up the picture. When i see the comment of Camille on her blog it looks like someone is not amused if his expertise is criticized.
http://www.maysaloon.org/2012/01/response-to-creative-syrias-author.html
January 23rd, 2012, 4:23 am
William Scott Scherk said:
Husam, hello, I always enjoy reading your posts at Walls. You bring passion and a firm conviction to your points, and you are never willing to sit down and shut up if you feel you are being bullied, misunderstood, condescended to or bullshitted.
I like reading you at Walls! Your exchanges with Zenobia and OTW especially are very instructive, challenging. I do hope you keep your voice in action, if not there, here, and if not here, somewhere (please feel free to rant at me privately, too! william.scherk@gmail.com).
Things such as you say and repeat and insist on and that haunt you — you really helped me to see that all MUST be heard, heard fully. Moreover, what you wrote about the semi-mythic Fence-sitters, that made me think and keeps me thinking.
As for Aboud, well, he got banned at WALLS also, for a couple of weeks, and rightly so.
The thing for me is — since my first read and my first post here back in April last year — these Syria subjects are fraught, loaded, overburdened with emotion and personal feelings. Under an authoritarian, violently repressive regime such as the forty-year run of Assadism, people can become permanently damaged (by torture) or semi-permanently enraged. Some may have never had a discussion that was not marred by shouts and threats and intimidation. Others may have never had a chance to scream out their grief and shame and recriminations. Others still may feel an entire world crumbling into evil and beyond.
Do not give up, Husam. Surely your love for Syria extends to Syrians, no? The kind of love that understands its angry, abused children? That understands bitterness and stubbornness and pride and fear … ?
Please have a look at one of the first posts I made to SC from April 2011.
One can value many many points of view, and value the imperfect beings who hold them (or, more cogently, shout them).
RE the STOP STALKING ME comments at 579, JAD, please have your pretend lawyer correspond directly, so that I can put her in her place regarding STALKING or CRIMINAL HARASSMENT (william.scherk@gmail.com). It boggles my mind that you would equate a) someone critiquing your words and stances on a public comment section of a web log and (today) resisting your bullying rhetoric with b) criminal harassment.
I will tell you one more time and then be silent on this issue: you cannot bully me, and you should not waste your time attempting it. I take my freedoms seriously.
January 23rd, 2012, 4:28 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
574. Mina
I guess Creative Syria as Syria Today and many more ¨reformist¨regime propaganda belong to Ramy and family.
January 23rd, 2012, 4:37 am
SyrianPatriot said:
Samir Aita and Burhan Ghalioun on Al arabiya
http://youtu.be/8XYMmt7s9UI
January 23rd, 2012, 5:12 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Tribal,
You are happy to be protected by the west’s law system. At the same time, you are admiring the junta that denies your Syrian brothers and sisters the same protection.
Aren’t you selfish?
Will you now threaten me with an American / Canadian law suit?
.
January 23rd, 2012, 5:35 am
Syrialover said:
# 538. William Scott Scherk
Thank you. Those comments were constructive and needed to be said, and you put it very well.
Jad, #542 you deserved to have your “shit” comment called out. Instead of responding with personal slanging back at WSS, accept that such language and manner is unpleasant and not normal for SC, move on and instead show again your articulate and reasoning side.
Yelling I am Syrian and you are not! is a kid in the playground. Imagine how offended and shocked a Syrian would be if someone on a respected US discussion site attacked what they said and put them down with the words: “I’m American and you are not. Period!”
Please, all those feeling aggressive and indignant re-read these words by WSS: “It just makes me sad. Just when everyone who cares about Syria should be – to paraphrase JAD — using their brain and logic, we have ugly, useless,and provocative statements designed to increase mutual mistrust and hate.”
January 23rd, 2012, 6:01 am
Tara said:
Jad
I am surprised that you have no insight whatsoever into your behavior and on top of that you are victimizing yourself. Since day one I joined this blog, you resort to insulting anyone and everyone who disagree with you. SNK and yourself have made this site so filthy that not too long ago, I felt that I have no more interest in contributing and have cut down significantly on the time I spend on SC.
You have no case against William. If any one bullying, harrasing, and threatening the safety of others; it is you and your friend SNK who feel at liberty calling any one who disagree all sorts of names (terrorist friends, traitos, etc.) that will be taken at face value by any mukhabarat reading this blog and may lead to death or torture if our identities are discovered, a not so difficult task.
William, I see in you more of a Syrian than truly born Syrians.. Thank you for your contributions.
January 23rd, 2012, 6:52 am
Syrialover said:
I read the comments supporting the scenario of Assad “reforming” and staying in power and I don’t dismiss the writers. All I want is a solution and an end to the nightmare.
But my head swims with the unreality in 2012 of the survival of a regime that has killed, imprisoned, tortured and terrorised countless thousands of ordinary citizens, forced unwilling people back into the army to attack fellow Syrians, corrupted and impoverished the country, and made Syria a big scandal and horror show to the whole world.
With the Assad regime at the helm, no matter who you are in Syria or where, or how loyal to Bashar, big parts of your life and what you have built up has now been damaged and you live with deep fear about losing your country and your future.
It’s a human right to be able to trust and respect and feel safe with your leaders. It’s gone for many millions of Syrians, and Assad has no ability to restore it.
January 23rd, 2012, 6:54 am
VOLK said:
Report: Russia to deliver combat jets to Syria
(AP) MOSCOW — Russia has signed a contract to sell combat jets to Syria, a newspaper reported Monday, in apparent support for President Bashar Assad and open defiance of international condemnation of his regime’s bloody crackdown.
The respected business daily Kommersant, citing an unidentified source close to Russia’s Rosoboronexport state arms trader, said the $550-million deal envisions the delivery of 36 Yak-130 aircraft. A spokesman for Rosoboronexport refused to comment on the report.
If confirmed, the deal would cement Russian opposition to international efforts to put pressure on Assad’s regime over its attempts to snuff out the country’s uprising. The U.N. says more than 5,400 people have died over 10 months. The report of the sale comes the same day that Human Rights Watch called Russia’s backing of the Syrian regime “immoral.”
The Yak-130 is a twin-engined combat trainer jet that can also be used to attack ground targets. The Russian air force has recently placed an order for 55 such jets.
Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said last week that Moscow doesn’t consider it necessary to offer an explanation or excuses over suspicions that a Russian ship had delivered munitions to Syria despite an EU arms embargo.
Russia was acting in full respect of international law and wouldn’t be guided by unilateral sanctions imposed by other nations, he said.
Lavrov also accused the West of turning a blind eye to attacks by opposition militants and supplies of weapons to the Syrian opposition from abroad and warned that Russia will block any attempt by the West to secure United Nations support for the use of force against Syria.
Russia has been a strong ally of Syria since Soviet times when the country was led by the president’s father Hafez Assad. It has supplied Syria with aircraft, missiles, tanks and other modern weapons.
Igor Korotchenko, head of the Center of Analysis of the Global Arms trade, an independent think-tank, said the jet deal apparently reflected Moscow’s belief that Assad would stay at the helm.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501714_162-57363660/report-russia-to-deliver-combat-jets-to-syria/
January 23rd, 2012, 7:03 am
Observer said:
Jad and Norman was the picture of the handy work of the Syrian authorities in L’Orient Le Jour fake also?
I find the back and forth on this blog is truly a reflection of the deep gulf between the protagonists.
This is a microcosm of the debate in Syria: regime supporters terrorizing the others and regime opponents that have stopped being afraid.
Cheers Syria refused the AL initiative; why am I surprised !!!! I cannot imagine the sun shining without the wonder boy permitting it.
Germs are coming
January 23rd, 2012, 7:12 am
Juergen said:
Just in:
Syria buys 36 military jets from Russia
Rosoboroesport will deliever 360 military jets of the JAK 130 to Syria. The deal was already signed and the costs add up to 550 Mio Dollar. The russian newspaper Kommersant has reported this. Syria has already purchased JAK 130 before. The EU has condemned this arms sale as the EU has furthermore increased sanction on the regime.
January 23rd, 2012, 8:02 am
Revlon said:
أﻛﺒﺮ اﺧﺘﺮاق أﻣﻨﻲ ﺑﺘﺎرﯾﺦ اﻟﻨﻈﺎم اﻟﺴﻮري ( إﻗﺮأ آلاف اﻷﺳﻤﺎء اﻟﻤﻄﻠﻮﺑﺔ وھﻮاﺗﻒ أﺻﺤﺎﺑﮭﺎ داﺧﻞ اﻟﺨﺒﺮ )
There has been a major breach in Assad security apparatuses that resulted in the publishing of lists of names, biodata and telephone numbers of thousands of Syrian citizens who are wanted by Assad security systems, including men, women and children.
22/01/2012.
http://najemnews.com/index.php/2010-12-09-22-59-36/2024-2012-01-22-17-17-43
نجم نيوز – ﺧﺎص – ﺗﻨﺸﺮ نجم ﻧﯿﻮز أﺳﻤﺎء آلاف اﻟﺴﻮرﯾﯿﻦ اﻟﻤﻄﻠﻮﺑﯿﻦ للأﺟﮭﺰة اﻷﻣﻦ اﻟﺴﻮرﯾﺔ ، ﺣﯿﺚ ﻇﮭﺮ ﻣﻦ ﺑﯿﻦ ھﺆلاء ﻧﺴﺎء وأﻃﻔﺎل وﻋﺴﻜﺮﯾﻮن . حيث سرب ﺿﺒﺎط وﻋﻨﺎﺻﺮ ﻣﻨﺸﻘﺔ ﻣﻦ اﻷﻣﻦ ﺳﺮﺑﺖ ھﺬه اﻟﻘﻮاﺋﻢ اﻟﺘﻲ ﺗﻌﺘﺒﺮ ﺿﺮﺑﺔ ﻗﺎﺳﯿﺔ ﻟﻠﻨﻈﺎم اﻟﺬي وﻟﻎ ﺑﺪﻣﺎء اﻟﺴﻮرﯾﯿﻦ ، وﻣﺎ زال ﯾﻠﻌﺐ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺣﺒﻞ اﻟﻜﺬب أﻣﺎم اﻟﻌﺎﻟﻢ ﻣﺪﻋﯿﺎ ﺑﺄن إرھﺎﺑﯿﯿﻦ ﯾﻘﻮﻣﻮن ﺑﺎﻟﺜﻮرة ﺿﺪه ، ﻣﻊ أن ﻛﻞ اﻟﺸﻌﺐ ﻣﻦ اﻗﺼﺎه إﻟﻰ أﻗﺼﺎه ﯾﮭﺘﻒ ﺑﺴﻘﻮط ھﺬا اﻟﻨﻈﺎم اﻟﻘﻤﻌﻲ .
ﻟﻤﻌﺮﻓﺔ أﺳﻤﺎء اﻟﻤﻄﻠﻮﺑﯿﻦ ﻟﻸﻣﻦ اﻟﺴﻮري وھﻮاﺗﻔﮭﻢ وﺣﯿﺜﯿﺎت ﻃﻠﺒﮭﻢ
أﻧﻘﺮ ھﻨﺎ
January 23rd, 2012, 8:47 am
Tara said:
Dear Revlon
What is your take on the AL’s proposal yesterday?
January 23rd, 2012, 9:07 am
norman said:
BBC
قال الفريق أوَّل مصطفى الدابي، رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب إلى سوريا، إنَّ السلطات السورية سحبت منذ بداية البعثة مهمَّتها الآليَّات والأسلحة الثقيلة كافَّة من المدن والبلدات السورية، وأكِّد أنه لم يشهد قصفا بالمدافع والطائرات منذ وصوله إلى سوريا.
وقال الدابي: “لقد عايشنا الواقع وعكسنا ما شاهدناه في التقرير، ولم نتكلَّم عن شيء لم نشاهده. فمنذ أن وصلت البعثة إلى سوريا، سُحبت كلُّ الآليات الثقيلة من المدن والبلدات، ولم نشاهد طائرات، أو نسمع قصفا.”
وحول ما إذا كان قد طلب تمديد مهمَّة البعثة أو تعديلها، قال الدابي: “أنا لم أطلب تمديد مهمَّة البعثة كما ورد، وليس هناك من شيء كذلك. بل كتبت في توصيتي أنَّه إن كان هنالك من نيَّة لتمديد البعثة، فلا بدَّ من أن تُدعى الجوانب الإدارية والسياسية، وتأمين الدعم السياسي والمادِّي لتمكين البعثة من القيام بعملها.”
وأضاف: “لقد طلبت أيضا التعجيل بالعمليَّة السياسية السلميَّة، وبانطلاق الحوار الوطني بالتوازي مع عمل البعثة”، مشيرا إلى أنَّ التقرير الذي رفعه إلى الجامعة العربية هو تلخيص للتقارير التي رفعها له المراقبون في المجموعات الـ 15 التي تتكون منها البعثة في سوريا.
وتابع قائلا: “إن مهمَّة البعثة لم تُعدَّل، فالبند الرابع من قرار الجامعة (الذي أُعلن مساء الأحد) يشير إلى الحوار والتحوُّل السلمي.”
“لقد عايشنا الواقع وعكسنا ما شاهدناه في التقرير، ولم نتكلَّم عن شيء لم نشاهده. فمنذ أن وصلت البعثة إلى سوريا، سُحبت كلُّ الآليات الثقيلة من المدن والبلدات، ولم نشاهد طائرات، أو نسمع قصفا”
الفريق أوَّل مصطفى الدابي، رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب إلى سوريا
وأردف قائلا: “لقد طلبنا دعما سياسيَّا وماديَّا، ونتمنَّى أن تصلنا الطلبيَّات لتغطية النواقص من أجل تمكين البعثة من أداء عملها على أكمل وجه.”
“لست مطلوبا للعدالة”
وردَّا على سؤال في شأن التقارير التي تحدَّثت عن التشكيك بشخصه وبماضيه كمسؤول أمني سابق في السودان، قال الدابي: “لست مطلوبا للعدالة لكي أدافع عن نفسي، لا في السودان ولا خارجه ولا في المحكمة الجنائية الدولية. ولا أريد ان أتحدَّث عمَّا قيل(بحقِّي) في وسائل الإعلام.”
وحول ما كان قد صرَّح به المراقب الجزائري أنور مالك الذي انسحب من البعثة بعد أيام من بدء مهمَّتها في سوريا، قال الدابي: “لقد تقدَّم أنور مالك بأعذار إنسانية وشخصيَّة (للانسحاب)، فأعطيناه الإذن بذلك بعد أن كان قد غاب لمدَّة ستة أيام أمضاها داخل الفندق لم يخرخ خلالها إلى أي مكان.”
وقال: “إن ما قاله (مالك) شيء يخصُّه، ولا يخصُّ البعثة إطلاقاً،” مؤكِّدا أن البعثة “لم تقع في أي خطأ منذ مباشرة عملها في سوريا”.
رفض سوري
وقد جاءت تصريحات الدابي في مؤتمر صحفي عقده في العاصمة المصرية القاهرة الاثنين بعد يومين من تقديمه تقريره المكتوب الأول عن عمل البعثة في سوريا إلى الأمين العام لجامعة الدول العربية الذي رفع بدوره التقرير إلى اجتماع مجلس الجامعة على مستوى الوزراء الأحد.
“إن ما قاله (مالك) شيء يخصُّه، ولا يخصُّ البعثة إطلاقاً”
الفريق أوَّل مصطفى الدابي، رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب إلى سوريا
وكانت الحكومة السورية قد رفضت القرار الذي اتَّخذه الوزراء العرب في نهاية اجتماعه الأحد وطالبوا فيه الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد بتفويض صلاحياته إلى نائبه الأوَّل، وتشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية تمهيدا لإجراء انتخابات برلمانية ورئاسية ديمقراطية في البلاد.
كما انتقدت لجان التنسيق المحلية في سوريا قرارات الجامعة العربية واعتبرتها “فشلاً جديداً في التوصل إلى حلٍ يرتقي الى مستوى تضحيات الشعب السوري ويتدارك مخاطر استمرار النظام في الاعتماد على القمع الوحشي بما يتضمنه من تصفية جسدية للمتظاهرين السلميين، واعتقال وتعذيب وضغط وحصار اقتصادي للمناطق الثائرة”، وذلك على حد وصف البيان الصادر عن لجان التنسيق.
ورأى البيان أن المبادرة الجديدة للجامعة العربية تعطي “مهلة جديدة للنظام وفرصة أخرى تتيح له مجدداً الوقت والغطاء في مسعاه إلى وأد الثورة وتحويل المجتمع السوري إلى أرض محروقة”.
وكانت وكالة الأنباء السورية الرسمية “سانا” قد نقلت عن مصدر سوري مسؤول قوله: “إن سوريا ترفض القرارات الصادرة عن مجلس الجامعة العربية على المستوى الوزاري في شأن سوريا لأنها خارج إطار خطة العمل العربية والبروتوكول الموقع مع الجامعة العربية، وتعتبرها انتهاكا لسيادتها الوطنية وتدخُّلا سافرا في شؤونها الداخلية”.
وكان وزراء الخارجية العرب قد أصدروا هذه القرارات الأحد في ختام اجتماع مجلس الجامعة العربية على مستوى وزراء الخارجية.
وقال الشيخ حمد بن جاسم آل ثاني، رئيس الوزراء، وزير الخارجية القطري، رئيس اللجنة الوزارية العربية الموكل إليها متابعة الأزمة السورية، إن الجامعة سترفع مبادرتها إلى مجلس الأمن الدولي للموافقة عليها.
وأضاف الشيخ حمد في مؤتمر صحفي مشترك مع نبيل العربي، أمين عام الجامعة العربية، عقداه في أعقاب انتهاء الاجتماع الوزاري العربي في وقت متأخر من مساء الأحد: “إن المبادرة السورية شبيهة بالمبادرة اليمنية التي انتهت إلى تفويض الرئيس اليمني (علي عبد الله صالح) صلاحياته إلى نائبه.”
اعتبرت الحكومة السورية قرارات الوزراء العرب “انتهاكا فاضحا للسيادة الوطنية”
وفي تطوُّر ذي صلة، أعلن وزير الخارجية السعودي سعود الفيصل الأحد أن بلاده قررت سحب مراقبيها من بعثة الجامعة العربية إلى سوريا، “لأنّ الحكومة السورية لم تطبق الخطة العربية”، حسب وصفه.
ودعا الوزير السعودي الدول الإسلامية والصين وروسيا وأوروبا والولايات المتحدة إلى “ممارسة مزيد من الضغط على حكومة الرئيس بشار الأسد لوقف قمع الانتفاضة السورية”.
وتدعو المبادرة العربية إلى تشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية، وإجراء انتخابات تعددية، تشارك فيها جماعات وأطياف المعارضة السورية في إطار دستور جديد.
كما تدعو أيضا إلى إنشاء لجنة خاصة للتحقيق في أعمال العنف والقتل التي وقعت في سوريا خلال الانتفاضة المستمرة منذ أكثر من عشرة أشهر.
وتقول أطراف المعارضة السورية إن ما يزيد على 5400 شخص قتلوا في موجة العنف المستمرة في سورية منذ 15 مارس/ آذار من العام الماضي، بينما تشير إحصائيات الأمم المتحدة إلى سقوط نحو 5000 قتيل.
أمَّا السلطات السورية، فتقول إن أكثر من 2000 من عناصر الشرطة والأمن والجيش قد قُتلوا على أيدي مسلَّحين.
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January 23rd, 2012, 9:12 am
Syria no kandahar said:
I am glad to be the enemy no 2 for the biggest terrorists supporter Tara,Inc (her or his no 1 enemy is Jad).watch Tara’s friend in their terrorists acts again.shocking evidence for any
One with any consciousness .
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نعم عرب ولانخجل
January 23rd, 2012, 9:25 am
defender said:
586. JUERGEN
Syria buys 36 (training) jets from Russia
Syria is the country, a member of the United Nations! Russia is not EU аnd the EU is not UN it must be clear for you ! Purchase disturbs you ? if yes drink the sea !!!
January 23rd, 2012, 9:41 am
Juergen said:
See how even wintergames lost its purity…
http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=279357648795297&set=a.173079292756467.48407.173077592756637&type=1&theater
January 23rd, 2012, 9:42 am
defender said:
572. JAD
Just forward it to Jackals !
http://uainfo.censor.net.ua/uploads/posts/2012-01/1325423486_dulya.jpg
January 23rd, 2012, 9:48 am
Tara said:
Kandahar
Neither you nor Jad are my enemies.
January 23rd, 2012, 10:00 am
Juergen said:
Irritated
its anyway just hot air, how is Syria going to pay for it?
550mio Dollars, i bet not even Tehran can sell that much crude oil for the Assadregime. Russia is not willing to accept payment at a later stage since such planes would be #1 targets for any air attack by NATO forces after radar stations.
January 23rd, 2012, 10:01 am
Syria no kandahar said:
The most secular revolution in history:
حي الشهاده والجهاد
Jihad supported by Angilina Jolli,Obama,Asala Nasri,Sarkozi and ALAAROOR!
January 23rd, 2012, 10:01 am
Syria no kandahar said:
جهاديون وهابيون امثال
العرعور
القرضاوي
العريفي
وريفلون
January 23rd, 2012, 10:13 am
jad said:
Amir,
No, I wont, you talk directly to me and you critics my comments but you never stalked me.
Syrialover,
You are right that anybody can call out for using foul language, it’s always the case on SC, however, this is not the case, just go check the history of comments to understand my point.
What no body should be allowed to do is to ‘Stalk’ others especially when they’ve been asked many times to stop.
‘Stalkers’ should know their limits and if they don’t then the law comes handy and you will hear about that soon. Thank you!
Tara,
What you wrote is usual and expected, I’m not surprised!
You have your own issues that has nothing to do with the ‘Stalker’ case. I know that you are trying all you could for me to be banned, it’s getting old, and if or when I decide to stop writing it’ll be my own decision nobody else.
Before you start the usual mantra of me being the ‘bad’ guy, please go and check every comment I wrote, I never threat you or anybody on SC with anything, I may have used a foul language when I was attacked without any reason, maybe in 10-15 comments out of probably a thousand I wrote lately which doesn’t support your case of me being the reason for you not contributing, besides, if you are such a brilliant political writer and a splendid debater that can’t write in a ‘filthy’ site like SC, how come you don’t contribute to 7ee6an, they are without a doubt a very respected people, how come you don’t fit there?
“You have no case against William.” Will see, stay tune 🙂
Observer,
I’m sorry that you went down from being an observer to something like #585, I really am sorry for you.
P.S. To all the above;
Don’t you have a revolution/uprising that you need to support by any means instead of finding more enemies and attacking people online. Just a though!
January 23rd, 2012, 10:18 am
jad said:
Oglu can’t wait to occupy Syria:
أوغلو: تركيا ستشارك مع القوات الدولية بسوريا بحال اتخاذ قرار دولي
أعلن وزير الخارجية التركي أحمد داوود أوغلو “أنه فى حال تم إتخاذ قرار أممي بشأن الوضع الإنساني في الساحة السورية، فإن تركيا ستشارك مع القوات الدولية في خدمة الجانب الإنساني لمساعدة الشعب السوري في محنته الحالية”.
وأكد أوغلو في تصريح له “أن تركيا تدعم جميع قرارات جامعة الدول العربية لوقف حمام الدم فى الساحة السورية، وأن تركيا على كامل الإستعداد لدعم الشعب السوري فى جميع المجالات الإنسانية “.
وأعرب عن أمله في” أن يتم إقناع النظام السوري بالتراجع عن أعمال العنف التى يقترفها ضد أبناء شعبه، وتجنيب سوريا أي تدخل أجنبي”.
January 23rd, 2012, 10:31 am
jad said:
الدابي: لا علاقة لي بقرارات الجامعة وطلبت دعم بعثة المراقبين سياسياً
اشار رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب في سوريا الفريق اول محمد الدابي في مؤتمر صحافي في القاهرة الى ان بعثة المراقبة انشئت على عجل بعد ان فرضت عقوبات على سوريا دون ان تكون التحضيرات كافية لقيام البعثة بدورها ورغم ذلك فقد عملت البعثة في 5 مواقع رئيسية في سوريا دون ان نلقى اي معارضة من النظام السوري او من المعارضة السورية وعندما طلب مني ان اتي الى القاهرة لتقديم تقرير اولي لم اكن متحمسا للفكرة لعدم توافر ما يكفي لاعداد تقرير ولكنني حضرت بناء على رغبة وزراء الخارجية وبعد تقرير البعثة المبدئي قمنا بزيارة 15 موقع اضافي في سوريا.
ولفت الدابي الى ان المؤيدين للنظام اعتبروا اننا جئنا للتمهيد لتدخل اجنبي واما المعارضة فاعتبرت ان عمل البعثة هو لاطالة امد النظام اما بالنسبة للبعثة فهي مكلفة بالاشراف على تنفيذ ما جاء في البروتوكول وما جاء فيه واضح انه نحن ننظر ونتحقق ولا نحقق لانه ليس لدينا الوسائل، نحن نتحقق بما تم على الارض ونرفع تقرير الى قيادة الجامعة التي تدعو الى اجتماع للوزراء للتداول بما تنفيذه فنحن لسنا مكلفين بتقصي حقائق ما حصل منذ بداية الاحداث بل عملنا يشمل البنود الخمس الاساسية وحتى الراي السياسي ليس من اختصاصنا.
واكد ان “مهمة البعثة الرصد وليست مهمتها ايقاف القتل واذا تم ايقاف القتل ستقول البعثة ذلك واذا لم يتم ستقول وهذه هي مهمتنا فالبنود الخمسة تنص على المراقبة والرصد على اعمال العنف، التأكد من عدم التعرض للمظاهرات، التأكد من سحب المظاهر المسلحة، البند الرابع يتعلق بالمعتقلين، والبند الخامس يتحدث عن الاعلام وواجبنا التأكد من مدى تنفيذ هذه البنود ونحن التزمنا بهذه البنود وبناء عليه قدمنا تقريرنا”،واضاف “التقرير لم يكن من الفريق الاول الدابي بل بناء على ما قدمه كل الاخوة الموجودين في 15 قطاع الذين قدموا تقاريرهم ونحن طلبنا حضورهم الى مقر البعثة في دمشق حيث تمت مراجعة ما كتبوه ومن ثم تم التلخيص في تقرير وقدم الى الجامعة العربية”.
واضاف الدابي ان “التقرير يغطي فترة 20 يوم والانفتاح الذي تم حصل في هذه الفترة وهذا رقم قياسي، ما تم في هذه البنود نقوله بصدق ورفعنا رؤيتنا وما شاهدناه فبالنسبة للعنف، قلنا انه عندما وصلنا كان هناك عنف واضح ولكن بعد وصولنا بدأت تخف حدة العنف التي تتم بين المعارضة المسلحة والقوات السورية ولكن وضحنا ايضا ان هناك بعض المناطق كحمص وحماة توجد فيها بعض الاحتكاكات الغير مباشرة اي ليس قتالا مباشرا”،وتابع ” في حمص ودرعا هناك اعمال قد تكون ذات تأثير عند استخدام النيران عند الافراد، فلاحظنا ان العمل يتم من بعض المسلحين وهذا ما يجبر بعض المجموعات التي تقوم بالحراسة للرد على النيران،اما في محافظة ادلب لاحظنا عمليات غريبة وهي التفجيرات، وهذا الامر غير مقبول اطلاقا بالنسبة للمجتمع العربي والدولي وهي طالت خطوط انابيب وناقلات مازوت للتدفئة وباصات عسكرية ومدنية، كل هذه الاعمال ظهرت في ادلب وريف دمشق”.
وتابع الدابي انه ” بالنسبة للتظاهرات، كان يتم التعرض لها من قبل القوات الحكومية قبل وصولنا ونحن طالبنا بابعاد هذه القوات ونتيجة لذلك تم تحجيم المواجهة بين قوات مكافحة الشغب والمتظاهرين وتم تحجيم هذه الاعتداءات”،واضاف “اما بالنسبة لاطلاق سراح المعتقلين، فالبيانات تفيد بارقام كبيرة وهذه معلومات استلمناها من مصادر عديدة ومنها معارضة وتتحدث عن 16 الف وعن 12 الف ولكن تبين ان هذه الارقام تحتاج الى المزيد من التدقيق ولم نتمكن من التوثيق الدقيق ولكن ما زلنا نعمل على ذلك عبر المعارضة الداخلية والسلطات السورية والمنظمات الانسانية،والحكومة السورية افادتنا عن اطلاق نحو 4000 قبل صدور مرسوم العفو و3000 بعد صدور العفو هذا لحين كتابة التقرير وقبل يومين افدنا باطلاق ما يقارب 2000، نحن كبعثة تأكدنا من صدور العفو على ما يقارب 3000 معتقل قبل صدور المرسوم وما يقارب 2000 بعد صدور المرسوم”.
واشار الى انه “بالنسبة للاعلام، الحكومة السورية تقول انها صادقت لما يقارب 147 وسيلة اعلام وتقول ان ما يقارب 112 وسيلة موجودة داخل سوريا و90 تعمل عبر مراسلين ونحن راقبنا ورصدنا 36 وسيلة اعلام تعمل فعليا داخل سوريا ووجدنا بعض الشكاوى من بعض وسائل الاعلام عن مدة الترخيص وتحدثنا الى السلطات السورية وتم التجاوب من قبلهم”.
وختم الدابي “ورد في الجزيرة بالامس اني طلبت تمديد مهمة البعثة، والحقيقة انا لم اطلب ولا يحق لي ذلك، بل قلت ان كان هناك نية للتمديد فانني اطلب الدعم السياسي والاعلامي للبعثة ودعمها اداريا، وطلبت التأكيد على ضرورة تعجيل العملية السلمية وانطلاق الحوار بالتوازي لان وجود البعثة مع الحوار يؤدي لنتائج ايجابية جدا ويحقق مهمة البعثة”.
January 23rd, 2012, 10:35 am
Juergen said:
#595
This message is for DEFENDER not IRRITATED 🙂
January 23rd, 2012, 11:09 am
irritated said:
597. Juergen
Don’t worry for that, they’ll find the money. They are smarter than you would like to admit. Wake up, the world is not only the USA and the EU (and Germany), you know.
January 23rd, 2012, 11:24 am
Revlon said:
Hi Tara,
The AL initiative, or what has been published thereof, notwithstanding its good intentions and its scarificed for end-goal of free national elections, has enough serious flaws that shall guarantee both the prolongation of the plight of the Syrian people and its eventual failure.
The scarcity of details makes it seem more like a vision than a plan; It can hardly be considered a road map, unless one regards Oslo agreement as one.
Here is my take on some points that were published on Cairo (CNN) website:
((The Arab League agreed on a path forward in Syria on Sunday that instructs President Bashar al-Assad to delegate powers to his vice president following the formation of a national unity government.))
Comments:
– Delegate means that Jr can still reverse, suspend, amend, or append the delegated mandate.
– Powers: implied powers shall be limited to authorising the deputy to start dialogue with the opposition on his (Jr’s) behalf. Other executive powers, including the control of the killing and torture machine shall continue to be in his hand.
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((The Arab League called for the government to start a dialogue with the opposition within two weeks and for the new government to be formed within two months)).
Comments:
– “Within two weeks”: of what date? Jr could accept in principle yet take weeks to months to “delegate powers”!
– “Dialogue”: Who sets the terms of the agenda for dialogue? What if there was no agreement on the Agenda?
– “The opposition”: Who are the opposition? Jr could produce hundreds of “regime-friendly” opposition, who have zero-constituency that would counter the weight of the representatives of the revolution.
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((The unity government should within three months prepare to elect a council that will write a constitution, the Arab League said. It should also prepare for parliamentary and presidential elections.))
Comments
Here is the expected, rough formula for power sharing for this government:
Regime: 50%
Opposition: 50%
– SNC opposition 25%
– NCB 12.5%
– Other stoolpigeons: 12.5%
That guarantees 60 to 70% of the vote in the government, and with it the main ministerial folios.
Is the national unity government going to elect the council which would wrtite the consitution, as the NCB would like, or will there be national elections like the Revolution and SNC insist on? It is not clear to me!
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((The president will delegate his first vice president the full power to work with the national unity government to enable it to perform its task in the transitional period,” the foreign minister said.))
Comments:
– The president shall delegate powers to work with the government. The armed forces and security agencies are out of bound. They remain in the hands of the president.
All troublesome activists, within or without the SNC may somehow be found dead of AlJazeera drug overdose, blown up by Alqaeda suicide bomber, blown up with their car by road side FSA bomb, or suicide by several bullets in the head!
– His first vice president: Who is he? Jr could appoint any one he wants from now until the signing of the agreement!
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((The Arab League will take its initiative, which does not back military intervention in Syria, to the United Nations in a bid to build international support. The organization also said it would extend its monitoring mission in Syria and increase the number of observers there.)).
Comment:
I find this clause most disturbing, and it is in my opinion much worse than even direct military intervention.
The latter would cease with ousting Assad and his regime, while adopting the AL political initiative by the UN may virtually lead to auctioning of Syria’s economic and geopolitical future to the best bidding international and regional protagonists. In a nutshell, Syria shall become like Lebannon, under extra-judiciary, international mandate!
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((The Syrian government roundly rejected the plan, which it views as “blatant intervention in its internal affairs,” Syria’s official SANA news agency reported soon after the announcement.))
Comment:
This is probably a preliminary position that could serve one or two purposes:
– It could entice the opposition, who can not negotiate the terms of the initiative, into accepting it.
– Once they do, the regime would announce their conditioned approval.
The final, regime-conditioned initiative shall be as bad and devastating to the revolution as the AL Observers mandate has been.
Cheers.
January 23rd, 2012, 11:32 am
zoo said:
moved to next post
January 23rd, 2012, 11:36 am
Valerya said:
http://politclub.info/2012/01/18/%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D1%8B-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B2%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D1%8D%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD/
18.01.2012
– An exchange of mutual threats of the USA and Iran in the beginning of January, 2012;
– Tests by Israel and Iran the newest systems of rockets. On tests of the Israeli missile system Hets-3 which urged to become top “layer” of many-tier system of the Israeli-American ABM, there were representatives of the Ministry of Defence of the USA and the American company Boeing which take part in the project. Earlier on arms IAD the first batteries of the bottom echelon – ABM systems «Iron dome» have arrived. At a stage of the advanced working out there is a second echelon – system of the ABM of “Prashcha David” (or “Magic wand”). The third echelon – anti racket system «Hets-2 ″ – are on arms IAD since 2000;
– The conclusion between Tel Aviv and Berlin arrangements on granting to Israel the newest submarines of a class “Dolphin” which can bear the nuclear weapon. Berlin will pay third of cost of a submarine — about 135 million euro. On arms of Naval Forces of Israel already there are 3 such submarines;
– Scale doctrines of the Syrian army on purpose to check up readiness of the Air Forces and air defense to prevent any possible intrusion into air and sea space of Syria;
– Promotion of the Russian military ships to coast of Syria as quite adequate answer to threats of the USA and their satellites to untie aggression against Syria;
– Carrying out of scale military doctrines of Naval Forces of Iran by Iran under the name «wilayat 90»;
– The prevention Iran of the United States of America reciprocal actions of Iran in case the aircraft carrier of the USA will return to area of Persian gulf, sounded by the commander-in-chief of Iranian army Ataolloj Salehi, informs Reuters; the answer of the USA;
– Threat of Iran to the West to block strait of Ormuz if export of the Iranian oil is blocked by the West by means of economic sanctions as 40 % of oil sold in the world are transported through the given passage (meanwhile, despite lacking the special international agreement across strait of Ormuz, Iran has signed the Geneva convention of 1958);
– The statement of the head of the Pentagon of Leon Panetty on January, 9th, 2012 that if Teheran blocks strait of Ormuz the USA will undertake power methods. Leon Edward Panetta also has warned Israel against independent blow on nuclear objects of Iran, having underlined that the similar decision can cause reciprocal actions of Teheran against the American armies in region, having called Israel for mutual military cooperation;
– An input in January, 2012 to Persian gulf through strait of Ormuz of the ships, among which nuclear aircraft carrier “John Stennis”, the USA attributed to the Fifth fleet. The Pentagon the newest universal landing ship-helicopter carrier of type Wasp, the amfibijno-transport ship-dock, the amfibijno-landing ship-dock, marines battalion, group of the special operations, the strengthened squadron of fighting helicopters and a rear battalion throws to Persian gulf new divisions and the ships, among which;
– A direction the British Royal fleet to Persian gulf of a destroyer of new generation HMS Daring of series Type 45 which are a destroyer, specially designed so that to remain imperceptible for a radar;
– Speech of prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel at ceremony of memory of the first prime minister of Israel David Ben-Gurion which can be considered and as an appeal to blow drawing across Iran, whatever heavy were consequences of such step;
– Intention of Israel to suspend work of the nuclear reactor because of fears before probable rocket bombardments of Iran;
– An unprecedented concentration of the USA and Russia the military resources around Syria and Iran;
– Unprecedented pressure of the USA upon Israel with the requirement not to untie independent military operation in the Near East;
– Sale by the United States of America of Saudi Arabia which has agreed to give for blow of Israel across Iran the air space, 84 newest fighters F-15 SA for a total sum $29.4 billion Within the limits of the concluded transaction experts of the USA modernize 70 fighters F-15S (the Saudi Air Forces being now on arms); also ammunition and spare parts will be put, training and logistics are organized, and also – techniques service is provided, informs CNN;
– The statement the Israeli parliament of the decision on transfer into accounts of the Ministry of Defence of Israel of additional financing at a rate of 779 million shekels thanks to which the annual budget of military department has exceeded 60 billion shekels;
– Signing by the Israeli aero concern «Taasia аviriт» on January, 8th, 2012 the contract from one of the countries of Asia on delivery of pilotless planes, and also the equipment for conducting air reconnaissance and other military equipment for a total sum of 1,1 billion dollars. And also the contract for the sum of 0,5 billion US dollars (a total sum: 1,6 billion dollars). the countries, in the message it is not specified, meanwhile about 40 % of production of Israel goes to Asia, first of all to India and China. On contract conditions, within four years the Israeli concern should put to partners party of rockets of different classes, including rockets the sea-sea, the pilotless flying machines created for system of the ABM of “Hits” a radar «Oren Is bright», systems for gathering of the information and other equipment.
– A transfer of the USA of thousand military men of the USA on territory of Israel (as a signal to Iran) in addition to that at the radar station of the USA placed in the south of Israel can be now to 700 military men of the USA. According to the Israeli site debka.com to Israel already have arrived not less than 9 thousand American military men.
– The carrying out of the joint planned for February, 2012 is unprecedented scale doctrines of armies of the USA and Israel with expansion of command point of air defense of the USA and use of the newest system of high-rise zone defense. Besides that in Israel command points of the USA will be developed, in the German headquarters of command ВС the USA in Europe it is supposed to create command points of army of Israel for the purpose of creation of joint operative grouping of forces in case of the beginning of the large-scale conflict in the Near East. The purpose: preparation for creation of incorporated command of the ABM;
– The information in the letter of US president Obama Ayatollah Hamenai with instructions that in case of passage Iran blocking, the USA use trawlers, the military ships and even air strikes on territory of Iran for lifting of a blockade;
– The scale military doctrines of Iran code-named planned for February, 2012 «Great Prophet»;
– Immigration for last months to Israel under programs of special services of Israel of 150 young doctors from the countries of the former Soviet Union in addition to what profits of Israel earlier;
– Mass remigrations (both on time, and on a constant place a residence) Israelis from Israel to Ukraine (Kiev, Odessa, Feodosiya, Sevastopol, etc. cities), fixed and sounded by scientists and state officials of Ukraine. Visiting by the ex-resident Mossad in Moscow Reuvenom Dinelem who nowadays is the Ambassador of Israel in Ukraine, АР Crimea where it has spent a number of meetings with heads АР Crimea, and also has taken part in opening of the Israeli cultural center in Crimea, Akmesdzhite on December, 12th, 2012.
Major factor which has excited Israel in 2011 and has caused hearings about ostensibly “treachery” from the basic strategic partner – the USA, – speech of US president Barack Obama about «the new policy» the USA in the countries of the Near East and the North Africa in which Obama has declared was that negotiations between Palestine and Israel should come to the end with delineating of constant Palestinian borders between Israel, Jordan and Egypt, and also constant Israeli border. The US president has suggested to designate borders of Israel and Palestine on lines of 1967 «with mutual voluntary exchanges» that has caused support of all participants of “the Near-Eastern quartet» (the United Nations, Russia, the USA and the European Union), but sharp negative reaction of the prime minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu.
After a while the management of Palestine has made the statement that in September, 2011 at session of General Assembly of the United Nations it will apply about a recognition of independence of the Palestinian state in borders of 1967 that leaguers of the Arabian states and the Russian Federation have unanimously approved, but also has caused negative reaction of the prime minister of Israel Netanijagu. Israel also searches a pretext for carrying out of new military operation in sector of Gaza to minimize “the victory” of Palestinians expressed in clearing from the Israeli prisons of hundreds of the Palestinian prisoners, and, with another — for the purpose of rallying of Israel and “removal” by original image of contradictions in torn apart more than a year social protests and political contentions to the country for switching of a sharpness of deep social and internal political crisis on the external enemy – Iran, Syria.
Thus, if the West and Israel declare the purpose not to admit development of the nuclear program by Iran the Russian Federation, China and Iran aspire not to admit the beginning of military operations against Syria and Iran with an establishment big control by the West over the richest sources of power resources and strategically important transport routes. Repartition of geopolitical space of the Arabian East according to the project «Big Near East», presented in 2006 Condoleezza Rice in Tel Aviv and realized with use of modern technologies of “twitter-revolutions”, mentions to some extent all countries of region.
etc….
January 23rd, 2012, 11:41 am
def said:
602. JUERGEN
Do you mean be surprised with lack of culture of the Slangs ?
January 23rd, 2012, 12:01 pm
defender said:
602. JUERGEN
Do you mean be surprised with lack of culture of the Slangs?
January 23rd, 2012, 12:03 pm
Syrialover said:
#603 Irritated said “Don’t worry for that, they’ll find the money [for military aircraft]. They are smarter than you would like to admit.”
I know, the Assad regime is smarter than all the world’s democracies put together. It doesn’t piss away the little money Syria has on frivolous things like fuel, food production/imports and infrastructure.
January 23rd, 2012, 3:59 pm
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