{"id":5702,"date":"2010-03-10T16:21:29","date_gmt":"2010-03-10T16:21:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/joshualandis.com\/blog\/?p=5702"},"modified":"2010-03-12T03:21:51","modified_gmt":"2010-03-12T03:21:51","slug":"the-armenian-genocide-the-islamist-and-kemalist-consensus-by-firat-demir","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/joshualandis.com\/blog\/the-armenian-genocide-the-islamist-and-kemalist-consensus-by-firat-demir\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;The Armenian Genocide: The Islamist and Kemalist Consensus,&#8221; by Firat Demir"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_5758\" style=\"width: 107px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5758\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5758\" title=\"firat\" src=\"https:\/\/joshualandis.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/firat1-450x609.jpg\" alt=\"firat\" width=\"97\" height=\"131\" srcset=\"https:\/\/joshualandis.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/firat1-450x609.jpg 450w, https:\/\/joshualandis.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/firat1.jpg 1202w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 97px) 100vw, 97px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5758\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Firat<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>The Armenian Genocide: The Islamist and Kemalist Consensus<\/strong><br \/>\nby Firat Demir<br \/>\nfor Syria Comment, 10 March 2010<\/p>\n<p>Tension between Turkey and the US is rising as the anniversary of the Armenian genocide (April 24)\u00a0 approaches. The pain and suffering of hundreds of thousands of Armenians who perished in the hands of the Committee of Union and Progress during the final years of the Ottoman empire will again be sidelined thanks to politics.\u00a0 Every year, the US congress, attempts to recognize the<em> &#8220;the Great Calamity&#8221; <\/em> as Genocide and the Turkish government does everything in its power to prevent it. Turkish newspapers and TV stations devote hundreds of pages and hours of air time to the issue. They dust off arguments that no one believes in anymore.<br \/>\n<div style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mideastimage.com\/result.aspx\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.mideastimage.com\/photo\/standard\/turkish%20rebels.jpg\" alt=\"An original photograph from the ancient twon of Van, South East turkey showing an irregular militant group that attached Armenians and Assyrians villages in the area of Van\" width=\"400\" height=\"247\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">An original photograph from the ancient town of Van, South East turkey showing an irregular militant group that attached Armenians and Assyrians villages in the area of Van<\/p><\/div><\/p>\n<p>The Armenian genocide is probably the number two issue (in addition to the Kurdish problem) that the Erdogan government and the military agree on completely. During an interview on the Charlie Rose show on December 8, 2009, Erdogan stated that &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.charlierose.com\/view\/interview\/10747#frame_top\" target=\"_blank\">I can say very clearly that we do not accept genocide.  This is completely a lie<\/a>.&#8221; On the same day, he reiterated his views in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sais-jhu.edu\/pressroom\/press-releases\/MA2009\/erdogan.htm\" target=\"_blank\">speech <\/a>at John Hopkins university, during which he argued that &#8220;my ancestors did not and would not commit genocide&#8221;. Likewise, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2010\/mar\/05\/turkey-us-vote-armenian-genocide\" target=\"_blank\">foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu described the  1915 Armenian  killings as genocide is an insult to Turkey\u2019s &#8216;honour&#8217;<\/a>&#8220;.  You can have a glimpse of how different views (as, for example, voiced by  Taner Akcam, or late Hrant Dink) to Turkish official position are treated, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chgs.umn.edu\/histories\/turkisharmenian\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Using the same absolutist tone, Mr. Erdogan also previously defended the Sudanese president al-Bashir (whose arrest warrant is ordered by the International Criminal Court on <a href=\"http:\/\/english.aljazeera.net\/news\/africa\/2010\/02\/20102355920514636.html\" target=\"_blank\">genocide charges<\/a>) and denied the genocide in Darfur claiming that<a href=\"http:\/\/videonuz.ensonhaber.com\/izle\/erdogan-islam-dinine-mensup-olan-birinin\" target=\"_blank\"> it is not possible for Muslims to commit genocide<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Recent News Articles on this Subject<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2010\/mar\/05\/turkey-us-vote-armenian-genocide\" target=\"_blank\">Turkey threatens &#8216;serious consequences&#8217; after US vote  on Armenian  genocide<\/a><br \/>\nRobert Tait in  Istanbul and Ewen  MacAskill in Washington,  guardian.co.uk,\t\t\t \t\t\t\t            Friday 5 March 2010 21.34 GMT<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Turkey has threatened to downgrade its  strategic relationship with the  US amid nationalist anger over a vote in  the US Congress that defined  the mass  killings of Armenians during the first world war as genocide.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/commentisfree\/cifamerica\/2010\/mar\/08\/turkey-armenia-genocide-us-vote\" target=\"_blank\">Turkey should pause before a mirror<\/a>, <em><em>Stephen Kinzer, guardian.co.uk,\t\t\t \t\t\t\t             Monday 8 March 2010 18.42 GMT<\/em><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Turkey should pause before a mirror\" src=\"http:\/\/static.guim.co.uk\/sys-images\/Guardian\/Pix\/pictures\/2010\/3\/8\/1268073702644\/turkeyprotest.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"460\" height=\"276\" \/><\/em><\/em><\/p>\n<p>An ultra nationalist left party supporters &#8220;shout slogans  during  a protest outside the US embassy in  Ankara, Turkey, after a US   congressional committee approved a  resolution branding the 1915  killing  of Armenians a genocide&#8221;. The banner reads &#8216;We did not do  genocide, We defended the motherland&#8217;.\u00a0  Photograph: Burhan Ozbilici\/AP<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When a committee of the US  Congress foolishly voted last week to brand as genocide the 1915  slaughter of Armenians by Ottoman Turks, there was plenty of blame to go  around. Ethnic lobbies, big-money politics and narrow-minded  congressmen all played their part. Together they poked a gratuitous  stick in the eye of a valuable friend. Once again America repeated its  classic foreign policy blunder: do something that makes you feel good  now, but that in the long run actually undermines American security  interests.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Amid all this finger-pointing, however, it is only fair  to single out one other culprit for this misguided vote: Turkey itself. After the vote, which was  broadcast live on Turkish TV and followed as passionately if it were a  World Cup match, thousands of Turks took to the streets in protest. They  were right  to be angry. As Turks try to figure out who brought this insult  upon them, though, they should pause before a mirror.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/uk\/2010\/mar\/08\/marcel-berlins-us-genocide-ruling\" target=\"_blank\">US genocide resolution is an ignorant stunt<\/a><br \/>\nMarcel Berlins, guardian.co.uk,\t\t\t \t\t\t       \t\t\tMonday 8 March 2010<\/p>\n<div id=\"article-wrapper\">\n<blockquote><p>So the foreign affairs committee of the US House of  Representatives has passed a resolution (by 23 votes to 22) that the  Turkish killings of Armenians in 1915 amounted to genocide. What  business is it of theirs? I&#8217;m not judging whether their decision was  right; I don&#8217;t know enough to do that. My concern is that such  ham-fisted intervention, and the publicity it received, demeans a crime  which should be treated as the worst in the annals of human behaviour,  and turns it into a political event played out by largely ignorant  legislators responding to a campaign by a well-funded political lobby.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Thankfully,  their presumptuous decision will not find its way into the statute  book. President Obama doesn&#8217;t want it to, just as an identical decision  by the House of Representatives in 2007 did not become law because  President Bush didn&#8217;t find it politically expedient.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/world\/middle-east\/living-proof-of-the-armenian-genocide-1918367.html\" target=\"_blank\">Living proof of the Armenian genocide<\/a><br \/>\nRobert Fisk, Independent, Tuesday, 9 March 2010<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The US wants to deny that Turkey&#8217;s slaughter of 1.5  million Armenians in 1915 was genocide. But the evidence is there, in a  hilltop orphanage  near Beirut.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Every vestige,  and as far as possible every memory, of the children&#8217;s Armenian or  Kurdish origin was to be done away with. Turkish names were assigned and  the children were compelled to undergo the rites prescribed by Islamic  law and tradition &#8230; Not a word of Armenian or Kurdish was allowed. The  teachers and overseers were carefully trained to impress Turkish ideas  and customs upon the lives of the children and to catechize [sic] them  regularly on &#8230; the prestige of the Turkish race.&#8221;<span> <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ihsandagi.blogspot.com\/2009\/04\/armenian-question-turkey-and-us.html\" target=\"_blank\">The  Armenian question, Turkey and the US<\/a><br \/>\n<span>Ihsan Dagi, Monday, April 27, 2009<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Can you imagine a foreign policy strategy in which a particular issue  turns into a constant source of problems that cannot be resolved  permanently? It appears  that Turkish foreign policy has been taken hostage by the genocide  issue and as if Turkey is prepared to do anything to make the word  &#8220;genocide&#8221; be forgotten or prevent it from being spelled out.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Armenian Genocide: The Islamist and Kemalist Consensus by Firat Demir for Syria Comment, 10 March 2010 Tension between Turkey and the US is rising as the anniversary of the Armenian genocide (April 24)\u00a0 approaches. 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