{"id":52,"date":"2006-10-07T06:20:39","date_gmt":"2006-10-07T06:20:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/joshualandis.com\/blog\/?p=52"},"modified":"2006-10-08T13:14:52","modified_gmt":"2006-10-08T13:14:52","slug":"how-to-explain-the-refusal-to-talk-to-syria","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/joshualandis.com\/blog\/how-to-explain-the-refusal-to-talk-to-syria\/","title":{"rendered":"How to Explain the Refusal to Talk to Syria"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">A number of commentators have given their opinion this week on reasons\u00a0why Israel and the US refuse to open a dialogue with Syria. Here are a few.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\" \/><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\" \/><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\" \/><\/font><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><a href=\"http:\/\/securingamerica.com\/node\/1602\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">Wesley Clark 9\/30\/06<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">: I\u2019d like to tell you this administration was too cowardly to talk with people it doesn\u2019t agree with. But of course, that\u2019s not true. It\u2019s not cowardice. What they still harbor is the intent to attack the governments of Syria and Iran and therefore they block any diplomatic dialogue.<\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\" \/><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\" \/><\/font><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><strong>President George W. Bush<\/strong> is opposed to an Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights and a resumption of negotiations with Syria, according to a report in the Israeli newspaper <strong>Yediot Aharonot. <\/strong>The article states that during talks with EU leaders, Bush said, \u201cThere is no reason to talk to the Syrians right now. President Assad knows very well what he needs to do to fulfill a positive role.\u201d <\/font><\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/www.israelnationalnews.com\/news.php3?id=113064\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">IsraelNN<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">,\u00a0<\/font><a href=\"http:\/\/www.manartv.com.lb\/NewsSite\/NewsDetails.aspx?id=4156&#038;language=ar\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">Al-Manar<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">\u00a0 <\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\" \/><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\" \/><\/font><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><a href=\"http:\/\/jta.org\/page_view_breaking_story.asp?intid=5036\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">Americans for Peace Now<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"> said reports that President Bush is pressuring Israel to spurn Syria talks were \u201coutrageous\u201d if true. <\/font><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">In a release Friday, the dovish group cited a Yediot Achronot report that said Israelis \u201cunderstood from President Bush that the United States would not take kindly to reopening a dialogue between Israel and Syria.\u201d APN said that was the latest of many such reports of U.S. pressure.\u00a0&#8220;When the Syrian president says he wants peace, the least Bush should do is allow Israel to call its bluff. JTA learned last December that some senior Bush administration officials favor unseating the Bashar Assad regime in Syria, an option Israel opposes, fearing it would lead to chaos.<\/font><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/hasen\/spages\/770552.html\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">Danny Yatom and Moshe Amirav:<\/font><\/a><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"> one is former Mossad chief and the other the head of Public Policy Studies at Beit Berl College and a Kadima MK had this to say in an Op-Ed piece.\u00a0\u00a0<\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">\u00a0<\/font><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">&#8220;What is the Syrian president supposed to think when he hears Olmert declare that the Golan &#8220;will remain in Israeli hands forever?&#8221; Perhaps he will be tempted to follow Sadat&#8217;s lead and initiate a limited military campaign that will cost us dearly. The leadership explains its inflexibility with the slogan: &#8220;Syria has not changed.&#8221; This judgment ignores important developments, the most significant of which was the Arab League&#8217;s decision <\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">(endorsed by Syria) in Beirut, supporting full peace and normalization of relations with Israel in return for the territories it has captured.&#8221;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\" \/><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\" \/><\/font><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">Also new is Syria&#8217;s willingness to begin talks without preconditions. Until now, it was alway Israel that made that demand of its neighbors. Now that it has agreed, the government of Israel introduces preconditions. It is enough to listen to the rationalizations of the Olmert government to realize its rigidity of thinking. One is &#8220;solidarity of friends&#8221; &#8211; the United States doesn&#8217;t talk to Syria, so nor will we. But <strong>the <\/strong><strong>U.S.<\/strong><strong> does not talk to <\/strong><strong>Syria<\/strong><strong> because we are not talking to <\/strong><strong>Syria<\/strong><strong>, and not the other way around<\/strong>. The second rationalization is that Syria is militarily weak and diplomatically isolated, so why should we give it legitimacy? In fact, it is precisely Syria&#8217;s weakness that is the reason for making peace with that country at this time.<\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.turkishweekly.net\/comments.php?id=2307\">Uri Avneri<\/a>: So why don\u2019t we make peace with Syria?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">At this time, there are two reasons: the one domestic, the other foreign.\u00a0The domestic reason is the existence of 20 thousand settlers on the Golan Heights who are far more popular than the West Bank settlers. They are not religious fanatics, and their settlements were set up under the auspices of the Labor Party. All Israeli governments have been afraid to touch them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">That is the real reason for the failure of all the attempts to negotiate with Syria. Yitzhak Rabin thought about it and drew back. He argued that we should first of all concentrate on settling the Palestinian issue. Ehud Barak almost came to an agreement with Syria, but escaped at the last moment. The only question that remained open was almost ludicrous: should the Syrians reach the shoreline of the Sea of Tiberias (the situation prevailing before the Six-day war) or stay at a distance of a few dozen meters (according to the border fixed between the British, then ruling Palestine, and the French, then ruling Syria). In popular parlance: will Assad dangle his long feet in the water of the lake? For Assad Sr. that was a question of honor.\u00a0 Is it worthwhile to risk for this the lives of thousands of Israelis and Syrians, who may die in another war?<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">Until Israel has a government ready to answer this question and to confront the settlers, there will be no agreement with Syria.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><strong>Joshua Landis<\/strong> sent this opinion to Marc Perelman of the Forward. (The entire issue of the Forward this week is excellent). He wrote, asking, &#8220;there seems to be unwillingness in Washington to talk to Syria. And by France too, by the way. So I wanted to have your views on that.&#8221; I wrote him back:<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">On the resistance to talk with Syria, it seems clear that President Bush still clings to the notion that he is going to win the war to reform the Greater Middle East, which was begun with the invasion of Iraq. At the time, a number of his closest advisors believed this would include regime change in Damascus. The resistance to opening the door to discussions with Syria (and Iran) stems from the stubborn hope among Bush advisers that it is not too late for this plan and that a turn-around in their Middle East fortunes may yet materialize. They\u00a0hope it is\u00a0not too late for a regime-change opportunity in Syria. The Bush administration clearly believed the War in Lebanon this summer could have developed into just such an opportunity. This is why\u00a0Rice made her famous faux pas that the bombing of Lebanon and the screams of its citizens were simply\u00a0\u201cthe birth pains of a new Middle East.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">Israeli papers mentioned during the war that Bush advisors were pressing to take the war to Damascus. It is this hope that prevents dialogue. Important people in the administration, whether in the Vice President\u2019s office or in the National Security Council, such as Elliot Abrams, do not want dialogue. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.motherjones.com\/cgi-bin\/print_article.pl?url=http:\/\/www.motherjones.com\/news\/update\/2006\/09\/iran.html\">This article, &#8220;Meet the Whack Iran Lobby,&#8221; in Mother Jones,\u00a0explains who some are<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">They believe that should dialogue start, their plan for transforming the Middle East will be lost. The logic of settling Israel\u2019s northern borders is very powerful. Once it begins, it will be hard to stop. I think Bashar is quite serious about his desire to put the vicious cycle of violence behind Syria.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">The French reluctance is simpler to understand than Washington\u2019s because it is more personal and less ideological. Chirac was a good friend of Rafiq al-Hariri\u2019s. He is angry at Bashar, who he blames for his death. Although he is not eager for regime-change in Syria or more instability in the region, he does not want to reward Bashar and still nurses a grudge.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">As anyone can see, my explanation is a synthesis of the views given above.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">Then there is this cluster bomb story in the NY Times by Slackman, who is excellent, as ever. One gets inured to a certain level of hypocrisy in politics, especially when dealing with the Middle East, but the cluster bomb story is just so appalling that it needs to be held up &#8211; especially at a time when the US is trying to show disgust and horror at terrorism by religious fanatics. What is the possible excuse for these cluster bombs? Everyone who ordered the express delivery of these munitions to Israel knew full well what they were to be used for. There were many high officials who expressly and knowingly signed on to this use of terror. All officials who have been willing to answer questions on this have said that using cluster bombs is perfectly legal. There is\u00a0little shame when it comes to using terror, no matter which side is doing it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2006\/10\/06\/world\/middleeast\/06cluster.html?ex=1317787200&#038;en=a0abad92d44682dd&#038;ei=5088&#038;partner=rssnyt&#038;emc=rss\">US supplied terror in Lebanon<\/a>.\u00a0 United Nations officials estimate that southern Lebanon is littered with one million unexploded bomblets, far outnumbering the 650,000 people living in the region. They are stuck in the branches of olive trees and the broad leaves of banana trees. They are on rooftops, mixed in with rubble and littered across fields, farms, driveways, roads and outside schools.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">Nearly three people have been wounded or killed each day by cluster bombs Israel dropped in the waning days of the war, and officials now say it will take more than a year to clear the region of them.\u00a0 A\u00a0large percentage of the unexploded bomblets were made in America, while some were produced in Israel. Almost all were dropped in the last days of the August cease-fire.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\"><a title=\"NY Times Video of Cluster Bomb\" href=\"http:\/\/video.on.nytimes.com\/ifr_main.jsp?nsid=a-768be3b9:10e1e0f0345:44ce&#038;fr_story=b8c6e8bc506362b7077384294448cd83e116c58b&#038;st=1160148650875&#038;mp=WMP&#038;cpf=true&#038;fvn=8&#038;fr=100606_111948_2ff8723bx10e1df967e5x7b80&#038;rdm=453333.0367899149\">Watch Video<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 0in 0in 0pt\">Local villagers claim Israel and the US used these\u00a0bombs in order to cleanse the South of Lebanon of its inhabitants and create a no-man&#8217;s land between the two countries.<\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A number of commentators have given their opinion this week on reasons\u00a0why Israel and the US refuse to open a dialogue with Syria. 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