{"id":16680,"date":"2012-11-07T16:00:42","date_gmt":"2012-11-07T21:00:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/joshualandis.com\/blog\/?p=16680"},"modified":"2012-11-07T16:25:46","modified_gmt":"2012-11-07T21:25:46","slug":"clinton-effort-to-create-syrian-government-in-exile-collapses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/joshualandis.com\/blog\/clinton-effort-to-create-syrian-government-in-exile-collapses\/","title":{"rendered":"Clinton Effort to Create Syrian Government in Exile Collapses"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Shortly before the Doha effort to put together a Syrian government in exile collapsed, Ambassador Ford, the State Department&#8217;s ambassador to the Syrian opposition, inisted to exiles that Syrians must find a &#8220;political solution and not a military solution to their problem.&#8221; He reportedly told Syrian Opposition leaders that the international community will not create a &#8220;no fly zone&#8221; over Syria and that it will not support the Free Syrian Army militarily.&#8221; &#8220;There is no military solution to the Syrian problem,&#8221; he insisted. There is only a political solution.&#8221; This is what the Engineer Muti&#8217;a al-Batiin\u00a0 ???? ?????? <a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/bassam.alkhouri\">reports on his Face book<\/a> page.<\/p>\n<p>there will be no\u00a0 ?? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?? ????:??????? ????<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/worldnews\/middleeast\/syria\/9662598\/Syrian-opposition-plans-fall-apart.html\">Syrian opposition plans fall apart<\/a><br \/>\nSyria opposition on Wednesday night scuppered a Western-backed initiative to relaunch the movement with a broad-based and domestically focused leadership after the man lined up as its figurehead withdrew.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i.telegraph.co.uk\/multimedia\/archive\/02391\/Seif-riad_2391989b.jpg\" alt=\"Syrian opposition plans fall apart\" width=\"558\" height=\"348\" \/><br \/>\nRiad Seif withdrew after he lost his seat in the executive council of the main opposition, SNC\u00a0Photo: Karim Jaafar\/AFP<br \/>\nBy Ruth Sherlock in Doha, 07 Nov 2012<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Key opposition factions with strong followings inside the country pulled out of the plan, which was due to be presented at a conference in Doha, Qatar, today.<\/p>\n<p>Three of the dissident bodies seen as integral to the US-backed initiative said yesterday that they had refused to attend, diplomats and opposition figures told The Daily Telegraph.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>&#8220;There are too many people against this initiative for it to work now,&#8221; said a Western diplomatic source in Doha.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>The setback came as Turkey said it was in talks to deploy Nato-controlled Patriot missiles on its border with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/worldnews\/middleeast\/syria\"><strong>Syria<\/strong><\/a> to ward off the regime&#8217;s cross-border threat.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Ahmet Davutoglu, the Turkish foreign minister, said Nato had a responsibility to protect all member states from external attack, including Turkey.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p>Riad Seif, the Syria dissident who had championed the movement and was set to emerge as one of the new leaders, withdrew after he lost his seat in the executive council of the main opposition, the Syrian National Council (SNC).<\/p>\n<p>Furious at being publicly side-lined by the conference, the SNC voted against the proposal at its separate convention.<\/p>\n<p>Representatives from the National Coordinating Committee, the Syrian democratic platform, and the Kurdish ethnic minority had rejected the plan.<\/p>\n<p>The plan&#8217;s failure is a blow to Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, who had announced it a week ago, and to Britain, which had strongly favoured it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The components that were not in the SNC are not coming. The idea of a bigger coalition initiative has failed,&#8221; said Jamal al-Wa&#8217;ard, a military representative on the SNC. The proposal, which was widely known as the &#8220;Seif-Ford&#8221; initiative, after Robert Ford, the US special envoy to Syria and Mr Seif, has lost ground amid resentment at foreign efforts to impose a solution on Syrians.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Everyone feels that this initiative is imposed. They&#8217;ve weaved the cloth, but now there is no one to wear it,&#8221; said Ahmed Zaidan, the deputy head of the Revolutionary Council, a body that coordinates with armed groups inside Syria.<\/p>\n<p>In a meeting held late last night, SNC members reportedly interrogated Mr Seif on the initiative, and the list of names proposed to lead it. &#8220;We asked him why some of the names were on the list and he said he didn&#8217;t know. The West pushed this on him. How can you endorse a plan when you can&#8217;t defend it?&#8221; said an SNC member who had been at the meetings.<\/p>\n<p>The opposition meeting will go ahead, but any leadership body is likely to have a majority from the SNC, which has little influence on the ground. &#8220;It may secure more funding but [the conflict] is about winning the support of the street to regain control. And the street does not support them,&#8221; said a diplomatic source.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/International\/wireStory\/britain-obama-victory-opportunity-syria-17666708\">ABC News: Britain: Obama Victory an Opportunity for Syria<\/a><br \/>\n2012-11-07<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Britain called on the U.S. and other allies Wednesday to do more to shape the Syrian opposition into a coherent force, saying the re-election of President Barack Obama is an opportunity for the world to take stronger action to end the deadlocked &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2012\/nov\/07\/david-cameron-obama-syria-violence\">David Cameron vows to work with Obama to end Syria violence<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Prime minister pledges \u00a314m increase in humanitarian aid after visiting UN refugee camp in Jordan<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/worldnews\/middleeast\/syria\/9659247\/Britain-to-organise-armed-Syrian-rebels-into-efficient-fighting-force.html\">Britain to organise armed Syrian rebels into efficient fighting force, <\/a>07 Nov 2012<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/politics\/david-cameron\/9660938\/David-Cameron-tours-Syrian-refugee-camp-in-Jordan.html\">Cameron tours Syrian refugee camp<\/a>, 07 Nov 2012<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.brookings.edu\/research\/opinions\/2012\/11\/06-defeatism-syria-hellyer\">Brookings: Defeatism Cannot Be Allowed to Overcome Syria |<\/a><br \/>\n2012-11-07<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cToday our revolution enters its toughest stages and the cruelty of the regime against our people is proven limitless.\u201d For all the issues that the Egyptian revolution has yet to resolve, Egyptians did not pen the above words. Representatives of &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/world\/middle_east\/syrian-chaos-deepens-as-rebel-rivals-fight-at-border-crossing-palestinians-clash-in-damascus\/2012\/11\/05\/8bcb59ac-27ba-11e2-ac64-5d52a2c5953e_story_1.html\">AP<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In Jordan, which also borders Syria, visiting Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov met with Riad Hijab, the former Syrian prime minister who defected to Jordan in August. It was a rare high-level contact between Moscow and a Syrian opposition figure.<\/p>\n<p>Lavrov said the talks were meant to get firsthand information from the Syrian opposition on how they view a solution to the civil war. \u201cThe idea of the meeting was to get an agreement or a roadmap on how to deal with opposition forces and save the Syrian people,\u201d Lavrov told reporters.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/news\/world\/2012\/11\/06\/syria-opposition\/1686677\/\">Syrian defector says most bomber pilots grounded, DOHA, Qatar (AP) \u2014<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A former Syrian air force general who was also the country&#8217;s first astronaut said Tuesday that only about one-third of Syria&#8217;s fighter pilots are carrying out the daily bombing raids of rebel strongholds because President Bashar Assad&#8217;s regime cannot count on the loyalty of the rest.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/bassam.alkhouri<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/bassam.alkhouri\">Bassam Al-Khouri wrote on his Face book<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">?????? ??????? ??????? ???? ??????<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">?? ???? ??? ?? ???? ?????? ???????? ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ??????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????? ?????????????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ? ???? ????? ?? ????????? ??????????????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ?? ??????? ?????? ???? ?? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?? ????:??????? ????&#8230;<br \/>\n???? ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ???: ???? ??? ???? ??????? ????? ?????? ????? ..???? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ?? ?? ???? ????? ????? ???? :???? ???? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ??? ??????.???? ?????: ???? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ?? ???? ??? ?? ?????.<br \/>\n?? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ????? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ???????? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ???????? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ???????? ??? ?????<br \/>\n?? ????? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ???? ?? ????? ????? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???????? ????????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? ???? ?????? ??????.<br \/>\n???????? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ???????? ??? ????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ????? ??? ????? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ?????..<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">????? ?? ???? ??? ????? ??? ???? ????? ??????? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ??? ???<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mobile.reuters.com\/article\/idUSBRE8A619520121107?irpc=932\">After quiet revolt, power struggle looms for Syria&#8217;s Kurds<\/a><br \/>\nWed, Nov 07, By Patrick Markey<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>DERIK, Syria (Reuters) &#8211; In the northeast corner of Syria a power struggle is developing over the promise of oil riches in the remote Kurdish region, threatening to drag Kurdish rivals, Arab rebels and Turkey into a messy new front in an already complex civil war.<\/p>\n<p>Quietly and with little of the bloodshed seen elsewhere in Syria&#8217;s 19-month popular revolt against President Bashar al-Assad, the Kurdish minority is grabbing the chance to secure self-rule and the rights denied them for decades.<\/p>\n<p>With Syrian forces and Arab rebels entangled in fighting to their west, a Syrian Kurdish party tied to Turkish Kurd separatists has exploited a vacuum to start Kurdish schools, cultural centers, police stations and armed militias.<\/p>\n<p>But the growing influence of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) is concerning not only Turkey, which is worried that border areas will become a foothold for Turkish Kurd PKK rebels, but also Syrian Arab fighters who see the Kurdish militias as a threat.<\/p>\n<p>At the PYD&#8217;s office in the Syrian Kurdish town of Derik, where walls bear a portrait of Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) leader Abdullah Ocalan and pictures of members the party says were killed by the Assad regime, the mood is defiant.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have our rights, we have our land. We are not refugees here and we will protect ourselves,&#8221; said PYD activist Mohammed Said. &#8220;We cannot accept any force from outside coming here.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Along Syria&#8217;s border with Iraq, Kurdish militants in jeans and armed with Kalashnikov rifles now guard a frontier post where Assad&#8217;s army once patrolled the sparse hillsides dotted with now lifeless oil pumps.<\/p>\n<p>In a classroom in nearby Derik, teenage girls practice reading their own Kurdish language, banned in schools until a few months ago, and Syrian Kurdish leaders express ideological loyalty to Ocalan who is jailed in Turkey.<\/p>\n<p>Under Assad&#8217;s rule and his father&#8217;s before him, Syrian Kurds were forbidden to learn their language or even to hold Syrian identity and often forced from their land, while their activists were targeted by Syrian intelligence agents.<\/p>\n<p>But after Assad&#8217;s forces pulled out from the Kurdish region to fight elsewhere six months ago the PYD and its allied People&#8217;s Defense Units or YPG militia began to claim control of towns up against the Turkish border &#8211; Derik, Efrin, Kobane and Amuda.<\/p>\n<p>In Derik, a town of 70,000 sitting amid parched fields, daily life appears normal apart from long lines of people waiting for cooking gas.<\/p>\n<p>Kurdish militia forces man improvised checkpoints made of boulders and tires. Committees run a Kurdish court and services such as fuel deliveries. At the city&#8217;s one open school, Syria&#8217;s Kurmanji Kurdish dialect is openly taught.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We could never say we were Kurdish before,&#8221; said Palashin Omar, 18, in the classroom running through grammar drills. &#8220;We were never respected before now.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But there is also a clear co-existence with the Syrian state.<\/p>\n<p>The Syrian army maintains its own checkpoint unmolested. The PYD party office is 100 meters from the Syrian intelligence agency office and Assad&#8217;s Baath party headquarters where portraits of Assad are still on the wall.<\/p>\n<p>PYD activists say they allow a limited government presence for now so they can receive gasoline from Damascus, and that government forces just stay where they are, unable to act.<\/p>\n<p>But suspicions have sharpened dangerous splits with other Syrian Kurdish parties who believe Assad allowed the PYD to consolidate its power and flout an agreement brokered with the smaller Kurdish National Council, or KNC alliance.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We can say the Kurdish region is liberated once the Syrian army cannot reach it,&#8221; KNC leader Abdul Hakim Bashar told Reuters. &#8220;Right now there is not a single place they couldn&#8217;t reach if they wanted.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>KURDISH SELF-RULE&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;. &#8220;This area will be just like Kirkuk,&#8221; said one Syrian activist in Derik pointing to the oil derricks just outside the city. &#8220;Everyone will come to fight for this.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Shortly before the Doha effort to put together a Syrian government in exile collapsed, Ambassador Ford, the State Department&#8217;s ambassador to the Syrian opposition, inisted to exiles that Syrians must find a &#8220;political solution and not a military solution to their problem.&#8221; 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