“Syria’s Assad regime is doomed, but the battle will be long and bloody,” by Joshua Landis
Posted by Joshua on Thursday, January 26th, 2012
Syria’s Assad regime is doomed, but the battle will be long and bloody
Joshua Landis
For Bitterlemons
January 26, 2012 Edition 4
The Syrian regime headed by Bashar Assad is doomed in the long run, but is likely to last longer than most believe. In December, the leader of Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood stated that President Assad would fall “in the next few months”, the US State Department proclaimed Assad to be a “dead man walking”, and Israel’s defense minister insisted that Assad would fall in a matter of weeks. This has turned out to be wishful thinking.
The Assads stand atop the last minoritarian regime in the Levant and thus seem destined to fall in this age of popular revolt. When they do, the post-colonial era will draw to a final close. Following World War II, minorities took control in every Levant state thanks to colonial divide-and-rule tactics and the fragmented national community that bedeviled the states of the region. Unique in this was Palestine, for the Jewish minority was able to transform itself into the majority at the expense of Palestine’s Muslims and Christians. Neither the Christians of Lebanon nor the Sunnis of Iraq were so lucky or ambitious. Nevertheless, both clung to power at the price of dragging their countries into lengthy civil wars. The Alawis of Syria seem determined to repeat this violent plunge to the bottom. It is hard to determine whether this is due to the rapaciousness of a corrupt elite, to the bleak prospects that the Alawi community faces in a post-Assad Syria, or to the weak faith that many in the region place in democracy and power-sharing formulas. Whatever the reason, Syria’s transition away from minority rule is likely to be lengthy and violent. Levantine history suggests this as a rule.
There are three main reasons why the Assad regime is likely to last well into 2013–if not longer–despite Syria’s rapidly deteriorating economic and security conditions.
The first is the strength of the regime compared to the opposition. The military has not turned against Syria’s president. It is a professional army, which so far has a monopoly on heavy weapons in Syria. Important government officials have not defected in significant numbers. This loyalty is due in no small part to the fact that the Assad family has prepared for this moment of popular, Sunni revolt for 40 years. It has packed sensitive posts with loyal Alawis and Baathists. Some analysts estimate that 80 percent of Syria’s officer corps is Alawi. The main strike-forces, such as the Republican Guard led by Bashar’s brother, is Alawi to the man. An ambassador in Syria’s Foreign Ministry recently claimed that 60 percent of Syria’s Foreign Service officers are Alawi and only 10 percent Sunni. The sectarian nature of the elite elements of the security forces ensures a high degree of loyalty and willingness to fight. The broader Alawi community is also likely to remain loyal to the regime, even as the economy deteriorates. Almost all Alawi families have a least one member in the security forces as well as additional members working in civilian ministries, such as education or agriculture. Most fear collective punishment for the sins of the Baathist era, whether this means trials, the loss of jobs, or even worse (one irresponsible Sunni sheikh threatened that the Alawis will be ground into mince meat when defeated).
The second reason the Assad regime is likely to survive into 2013 is the disorganization and factionalism of the opposition. Through much of 2011, the Syrian opposition hoped that by remaining leaderless, as had revolutionaries in Egypt and Tunisia, the regime could be brought down largely by peaceful means: either because Bashar Assad would surrender power, a coup would dislodge him, sanctions would cause elite defections and collapse, or growing demonstrations would achieve a Tahrir square moment. By the end of 2012, these scenarios seemed ever more unlikely, and the opposition has been forced to think seriously about developing a trusted leadership, unifying its ranks, and coming up with a realistic military option to defeat the Syrian army. These objectives still seem far off
The Syrian National Council, Syria’s leading opposition coalition, remains highly factionalized and has found it difficult to unite with other opposition parties. The mere fact that the SNC membership has felt compelled to limit its leaders to a three-month term testifies to the high level of internal dissent. Burhan Ghalioun, the capable and savvy secular leader, is distrusted by many Islamists in the SNC as well as younger activists who are leading the struggle on Syria’s streets. Only recently was he denounced by members of his own party for being a traitor and dictatorial when he prematurely announce a unification plan with the National Coordination Body for Democratic Change, a coalition of leftist parties led by Haytham Manaa.
Just as important as the opposition’s political weaknesses, however, are its military limitations. The Free Syrian Army being assembled in Turkey under the leadership of Colonel Riyadh al-Asaad is no match for the Syrian army. Although armed opponents of the regime are an important development, their size, structural limitations, lack of heavy weapons, and limited command and control mean they do not yet present a real danger or alternative to the Syrian military. In fact, many analysts insist that most fighting is being done by small units organized on the local level that do not take orders from Col. Asaad or other leaders, even if they call themselves members of the Free Syrian Army. What is more, many Syrians still do not accept the notion that the regime should be brought down by military means.
The third reason that the Assad regime is unlikely to be deposed soon is that foreign powers are not eager to intervene militarily in Syria. US President Barack Obama and European authorities would find it difficult not to support military strikes on the Syrian army if they were led by Turkey or the Arab League, but neither has shown an inclination to undertake such a risky adventure.
So long as the Syrian military leadership remains united, the opposition remains fragmented, and foreign powers remain on the sidelines, the Assad regime is likely to survive, but all three of these elements are changing, even if gradually, in the favor of the opposition. The predominant role of minorities in the governments of the region, which was universal at the end of the colonial period, is being brought to a violent conclusion.
-Published 25/1/2012 © bitterlemons-international.org
Joshua Landis is associate professor and director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma.
See the other three essays on Bitterlemons’ site
“The regime’s prospects are better than two months ago but remain dim,” Karim Emile Bitar
The Syrian revolution is now entering a new, more ominous phase. The regime has been considerably weakened and isolated. The Arab League’s mission has ended in a fiasco. The economy is in tatters. The opposition’s protests continue unabated. But the main pillars of President Bashar Assad’s support are still holding on. ….
A militarization of the revolution would empower the most radical elements, as it did in Libya, and render future democratization much more difficult. A foreign intervention would open Pandora’s box.
Those who would like Assad to fall are now confronted with the old Machiavelli vs. Kant philosophical dilemma: does the end justify the means or do the means determine the end? A comprehensive study, published by Columbia University Press and analyzing dozens of past cases, suggests that the latter is true. It indicates that if a dictator is overthrown through peaceful struggle, there is a 51 percent chance of a successful democratic transition after five years. In case of an armed struggle, the chances are only three percent.
The Syrian opposition is understandably impatient to bring Assad down and breathe freely. It should nonetheless meditate on these figures.
“Yes and no,” by Elias Samo
Can the Syrian regime survive? That is a question only a crystal ball can definitively answer. My analysis of the two primary components of the Syrian regime–a pyramidal political leadership under President Bashar Assad and a one-party political structure under the Baath party–leads me to believe the answer is “yes and no”. Yes, Assad will survive, and no, the political structure of one-party Baath rule will not….
“A sinking ship,” by Michel Nehme
Domestically, the mutiny in the Syrian army is slowly accelerating. It is beginning to pose a tangible threat to ! the military establishment, despite tight control by Baathist officers. The economy is gradually deteriorating–an indication of a long process that ultimately will topple the regime. The issue now is not whether the regime has been able to withstand or escape the storm, but rather the sense that the regime is slowly and daily getting weaker. Yet when it will finally collapse is not something that can be predicted, due to a variety of regional and international considerations….
Comments (724)
Alan said:
January 26th, 2012, 3:28 pm
Afram said:
The battle for Syria is getting messier
the great syrian armed forces are doing just fine.
they just elimanated 45 terrorists today…do OR die, soldier.
64000-3045=60955>>> to go
January 26th, 2012, 3:45 pm
louai said:
”such as the Republican Guard led by Bashar’s brother, is Alawi to the man.”
Really? My best friend friends little brother Rami Abdoush who got killed two days ago was not Alawi and he was a lieutenant in the republican guards, everyone feels no need to give any reference to what he/she is saying as long as its about Syria !!Even Dr.Landis
its sad to see even Dr.Landis repeating the opposition lies and fabrications and taking it for granted and pass it it on as such
as far as i know in Syria we don’t write on ID cards the religion of the person , where people get this information from?
January 26th, 2012, 3:47 pm
Majed97 said:
And the fourth reason the Assad regime is likely to survive is the support of more than 50% of the population (by more than one poll).
January 26th, 2012, 3:59 pm
Joshua said:
Dear Louai,
I am happy to be corrected. Could you as your friend’s friend what percent of the Republican Guard is Sunni? I would like an accurate estimate so I can write an official correction.
Best, Joshua
January 26th, 2012, 4:32 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Five Irania Republican Guard´s members detained:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlgPMlklJSU&sns=em
Do we need more probes to show how this regime is using foreign agents to keep itself in power while killing syrian population?
January 26th, 2012, 4:35 pm
alex said:
Excellent article Joshua. I did not read the other three, Emile is always good too, but I’m sure yours is the best.
My main issue with is is that you are sure the regime will not be able to convince enough Syrians to participate in the reforms package that will offer democracy-light
I would be the first to accept (and even prefer, for the next few years) democracy-light for Syria. I know many Syrians who are undecided (“silent majority”) who also would be happy with that possibility
Of course hte opposition, its millions of supporters and its allies outside prefer (or insist on) toppling the regime.
I refuse to predict … still HOPE there will be a less bloody outcome.
It is a painful and long learning process … it won’t necessarily be like Lebanon and Iraq’s experiments … so far 5 to 6 thousands died. But we are far from the hundreds of thousands casualties to our east or west. That’s good news if you are into seeing the glass half full.
January 26th, 2012, 4:44 pm
Ghufran said:
A swift and bloody fall of the regime without setting the ground for the day after is not in Syria’s best interest but the answer is not to allow the regime to continue its violent campaign and political idiocy through 2013 as suggested by some loyalists.
January 26th, 2012, 4:44 pm
Majed97 said:
Dr. Joshua,
With all due respect, don’t you think the burden of proof should be on you? You made a definative statement, while Louai merely presented evidence to the contrary. Regards.
January 26th, 2012, 4:45 pm
Ghufran said:
Louai is right, there are non alawis in every branch of the army and security forces,but the percentage of alawi officers in high positions in the army and the RG is higher than the percentage of alawis in Syria as a whole, most Syrians know this but they still argue about the actual percentage as if it matters. Few good bloggers touched on the issue and tried to explain it but forgot to ask about the percentage of Shia officers in high position in Bahrain and KSA for example, or the number of Christians in Egypt’s ruling council,etc ,and the list goes on and on. In third world countries with autocratic rulers, tribal loyalty and religious bias are the norm, this is one reason why Arab and Muslim countries are the butt of jokes today.
January 26th, 2012, 5:00 pm
Humanist said:
re. Majed97,
“And the fourth reason the Assad regime is likely to survive is the support of more than 50% of the population (by more than one poll).”
No one knows. But if you’re so sure what you say actually is true why not prove it by having free elections!!?
There certainly would be no need for Assad to “win” with 98 %…
As I said before internet polls are not very reliable in countries such as Syria. The arab sunni proletariat seem very antiregime and even more so the kurds (judging by those in my own country), while most of the sunni elite i Damas and Aleppo are probably opportunists (like the tripoli libyans were). I think the later group will change if the opposition emerges as the winning side.
That is my interpretation. Judge it for yourselves:
Have you seen any big pro-regime demonstration outside the centers of damas and aleppo lately?
I think you know the answer.
The suburbs and all smaller cities are boiling and together they constitute the biggest part of Syria and Syrians.
January 26th, 2012, 5:03 pm
alex said:
Joshua I think your overall statement was accurate but exaggerated. The regime carefully appointed Syrians in the army, security, and foreign service based on loyalty as much as (or more than sometimes) skills.
But I think the numbers are highly exaggerated.
We do not know, and no one knows who is in charge, where, in security and army but let’s look at foreign service for example …
Foreign minister is a Sunni
spokesman is a Christian
Assistant foreign minister is a religious sunni (Ahmad 3arnous)
Ambassador to England … Sunni
Ambassador to France Christian
Ambassador to Canada Sunni
(Former Ambassador to the US) Alawite
I head that foreign ministry has many Islamists … education ministry definitely has a majority of Islamists …
Defence minister is a Christian
Head of intelligence Ali Mamlouk is a Sunni
Even Asef Shawkat is a Sunni
Most think Ali Mamlouk and Asef Shawkat are Sunnis
I think none of us can state any percentages.
January 26th, 2012, 5:07 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Thanks for what I find a very accurate and realistic article Prof. Landis. Thank you for denouncing the real nature of power once for all.
I share your oppinion that this regime can still long some years.
Due to opposition´s political and military limitations, the only real option for Assad regime to be toppled is an increasing military pressure from outside. No doubt, foreign actors know this. Since dealing with Assad regime has become almost impossible for any democratic government, due to the total refusal in public opinions about Assad ¨policies¨ (crimes) towards its people, this western powers will have to promote a military intervention. Or they will have to accept that in the future they will find no one to diallogue with since Assad will be seen in most of the world as a large scale criminal.
Worse even, if foreign powers dont reach a consesus on military destruction of Assad power, Assad will destroy the opposition. It would mean probably many tens of thousands of victims among population insome months to come. And then who will be able in the west to deal with Assad?
Gadafi was accused of being behind Lockerbie, Saddam accused of gasing kurds in the past, but Assad will be regarded as the only dictator that stands against the Arab Spring and their people, killing people on screaming youtube videos.
If finally Assad is not attacked from outside, Syria can become some kind of North Korea. A paria country living inside a bubble.
But it would cause on the long term the destruction of the regime from inside. Corruption which is the main logics that feeds support for the regime would finally collapse due to the end of revenues.
Probaly there is a black hand that prefers Assad to remain in power but totally isolated and having lost its power to create instability in neighbouring countries.
January 26th, 2012, 5:10 pm
Humanist said:
I agree, the syrian regime is certainly more tribal (based on family ties) than sectarian (based on religious ties).
Also most “alawis” in leading positions seem to have assimilated into sunni (like Bashar)
The situation is Baathi Iraq was very different. The shia sect there were subjected to discrimination althought they constitute the majority. In Syria on the other hand, the sect of the majority (Sunni Islam) seems to be considered the “official” religion and minority sects such as the alawites or other shias aren’t even mentioned…
January 26th, 2012, 5:32 pm
Joshua said:
Dear Alex,
You may well be correct that the numbers I have used –
“Some analysts estimate that 80 percent of Syria’s officer corps is Alawi. The main strike-forces, such as the Republican Guard led by Bashar’s brother, is Alawi to the man. An ambassador in Syria’s Foreign Ministry recently claimed that 60 percent of Syria’s Foreign Service officers are Alawi and only 10 percent Sunni.”
Are incorrect and based on opposition propaganda. I believe they are exaggerated, which is why I qualified them with, “some analysts” etc.
But I will defend myself by maintaining that the Alawis predominate in the important security positions for the obvious reason that Alawis are more trusted.
The point I am making is two fold – one is that the regime is likely to hold up even under defections because many are loyal for sectarian reasons.
Two is that Syria is sectarian – which includes the opposition, which is largely Sunni. The logic of this revolt becomes more sectarian with each advancing month, as did wars in Lebanon and Iraq. I predict that as the Syrian struggle becomes increasingly sectarian the Sunni opposition will gain strength, the Gulf will finance it, and the Western World will promote it.
Assad has his defenders. Some are quite strong. But it is hard to see Assad winning in the long run. That is all I am saying.
I would love to have more accurate numbers for the Officer Corps, Republican Guard and Foreign Service.
I understand that some readers, such as Majed97 believe that the “burden of proof” is on me to get the correct percentages. He is technically right as I am the one making the claims. Unfortunately I don’t know them, but I would like to hear from anyone who believes he has any better information on which to make them. If the Republican Guard is 50% Sunni, that would be important information and would contradict what I have always heard. But so much is based only on rumor in Syria. We do need better figures.
January 26th, 2012, 6:05 pm
Joshua said:
Dear Alex,
You may well be correct that the numbers I have used –
“Some analysts estimate that 80 percent of Syria’s officer corps is Alawi. The main strike-forces, such as the Republican Guard led by Bashar’s brother, is Alawi to the man. An ambassador in Syria’s Foreign Ministry recently claimed that 60 percent of Syria’s Foreign Service officers are Alawi and only 10 percent Sunni.”
Are incorrect and based on opposition propaganda. I believe they are exaggerated, which is why I qualified them with, “some analysts” etc.
But I will defend myself by maintaining that the Alawis predominate in the important security positions for the obvious reason that Alawis are more trusted.
The point I am making is two fold – one is that the regime is likely to hold up even under defections because many are loyal for sectarian reasons.
Two is that Syria is sectarian – which includes the opposition, which is largely Sunni. The logic of this revolt becomes more sectarian with each advancing month, as did wars in Lebanon and Iraq. I predict that as the Syrian struggle becomes increasingly sectarian the Sunni opposition will gain strength, the Gulf will finance it, and the Western World will promote it.
Assad has his defenders. Some are quite strong. But it is hard to see Assad winning in the long run. That is all I am saying.
I would love to have more accurate numbers for the Officer Corps, Republican Guard and Foreign Service.
I understand that some readers, such as Majed97 believe that the “burden of proof” is on me to get the correct percentages. He is technically right as I am the one making the claims. Unfortunately I don’t know them, but I would like to hear from anyone who believes he has any better information on which to make them. If the Republican Guard is 50% Sunni, that would be important information and would contradict what I have always heard. But so much is based only on rumor in Syria.
January 26th, 2012, 6:06 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
“…I would be the first to accept (and even prefer, for the next few years) democracy-light for Syria”.
This could have been a possibility before February 2011. It’s too late for this now.
And what is “democracy-light” any way? There’s not such thing. Who will decide whether it’s “light”, too-light or not enough light?
“Democracy-light” is a dictatorship in disguise. It’s the infamous “benevolent-dictatorship” that was discussed here on SC, not long ago.
The only viable option for the Arabs is full jump into the cold waters. Just as it is happening in Tunisia, and hopefully in Egypt (if not the reactionary SCAF).
.
January 26th, 2012, 6:28 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Most scholars have spent years studying the case of Syria as a complex structure of power struggle between sects. Some add the factor tribes to add some colour and difficulty.
But I defend the much simpler idea that there is no real role for sectarian or tribal factors in nowadays Syria. The real struggle is for power between rich corrupt classes (new burgoisie, new industrialists, state officials and high rank militars) and the rest of the people.
Damascus must be considered today as a City State. Since the creme of the creme of described above power and security apparatus are in the capital, the regime can ignore the rest of the country without feeling in danger. And the fact is that most people in Damascus still keep saying that the question is going to get solved and that Assad will prevail. I think in a sense there is a kind of irreality in Damascus that will support the regime for a long time before it collapses from its bases.
January 26th, 2012, 6:31 pm
jad said:
Dear Dr. Landis,
Thank you for sharing this analyses with us.
I happen to agree with Alex, that your assumption exclude any kind of reform that may come out of this struggle where a different scenario may emerge other than the grim Lebanese and the Iraqi ones.
I also agree with Louai and Ghufran that the assumption that Syria is run in the same sectarian manners as Iraq or Lebanon was, and as hinted that only Syrian Alawites run it is incorrect since all Syrians regardless of their believes work in the Syrian government, therefore the predication that Syria will follow Iraq and Lebanon fate and that Syria is the last ‘minority’ country in the middle east as you explained it, doesn’t reflect reality since Syria is not a sectarian based country as Lebanon or Iraq with the known discrimination against some sects there.
(Just a thought, it said that the African Americans made a higher percentage compared to other ethnic groups in the US army while they are only about 12% of the population. It also known that the US army picks the economically disadvantaged to join in. what does that make the US army, the army of poors that one day will take over the US government)
I already post a list of the numbers of Alawite Syrians in the top positions of the government, not the army, it was sent to me from a friend on FB and it may not be 100% correct but I think it’s close to reality and if checked properly it will show that the media daily assumptions that Alawites run the country is not actually a propaganda and a lie, and I think this is why not the whole country is out including against the regime until today as we seen in Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen.
Here is the list again just for information:
“How about some reality check, how many Syrian Alawites are in the top government/security positions?
31 Minister, 2 Alawites
14 Governor, 2 Alawites
52 Security Branch Chiefs, 12 Alawites
14 Police Chiefs, 2 Alawites
14 City Council Charimen, 2 Alawites
40 Ambassadors, 4 Alawites
19 Secretary of the Baath Party branch, 2 Alawites
16 Presidents of the Syrian Universities, 1 Alawites
about 1600 judge in allover Syria 158 Alawites
about 720 General Manager allover the government, 71 Alawites
Vice President, Premier, Vice Prime Minister, Parliament Speaker, his deputy and his secretary + the President of the High Judicial Council, the Chairman of the Central Organization for Control and Inspection, the president of the Financial Supervision Committee, the Head of the Constitutional Court, the Chief of Staff, the Governor of the Central Bank of Syria + and all heads of Chambers of Commerce and Industry all of them are NOT ALAWITES.”
https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12558&cp=all#comment-280485
January 26th, 2012, 6:38 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
19. JAD
The numbers you show probe that Alawis are not criminals ¨per se¨ nor they are alone responsible for the mess in the country. The numbers you bring shows that the multiconfessional regime (composed by sunnis, alawis, christians, druzes and ismailis) is a disaster, not for sectarian reasons, but for political reasons.
January 26th, 2012, 6:48 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Jad,
2 presidents – 2 Alawi – 41 years.
2 criminal brothers of the president – 2 Alawi – 41 years.
.
January 26th, 2012, 6:49 pm
Mohamed Kanj said:
Joshua,
Your analysis is not based on facts but on gossip and spin coming from media and other sources proven to be false. I am a syrian belonging to the sunni sect from Aleppo and currently have dozens of my relatives employed in the security forces and republican gaurd. I can gaurantee you that 80% of the security forces in Aleppo belong to the sunni sect and the remainder belong to our brothers in the christian faith. Their is minimal involvement from the syrian allawi faith in security in Aleppo. If the army and security personnel were predominantly allawite, than they would have collapsed months ago. Their is also a substantial amount of revolutionary corps from the hassaka , raqqa and deir zour region whom the Assad family has had strong ties with for decades. The spin that the Assad family is coming to an end is the same lies that we have been hearing since the Harriri murder.
January 26th, 2012, 6:52 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
http://www.universalsubtitles.org/en/videos/PXuArQJAvsYq/en/227402/
“…My name is Sajjad (Haider Ali) Aminan and I am a member of the revolutionary armed forces of Iran. I am leader of a five-member
special team. I entered Syria on October 16, 2011. The others entered Syria on different dates”.
.
January 26th, 2012, 7:07 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
It does not matter all the precentages tossed back and forth. Bottom line, it is a criminal mafia that have monopolized all wealth and property, banned freedomS, weakened Syria and humiliated the nation. Alawites or low class Sunni, Turkmen or what have you, all the same. THEY GET OUT now, OR FACE CIVIL WAR WHICH I KNOW IT IS BEING PREPAIRED FOR NOW. Assad army will be decimated.
January 26th, 2012, 7:15 pm
Mohamed Kanj said:
I quote Jeremy Bowen reporting for BBC NEWS from Douma, ,Syria. “The FSA have taken control of Douma and have manned checkpoints on every corner”. Whilst jeremy bowen is attending a anti govt rally attended by 100-200 fanatics, he reports “We have to leave now becoz the security forces are on their way to disrupt the protest”. Is this a complete contradiction of his original statement in the beginning of the report? He reports that the FSA is in control of Douma and than 10minutes later he contradicts himself and says they have to go and hide becoz the security forces r in the area and going to disperse the protest.
January 26th, 2012, 7:23 pm
jad said:
SL and Prince,
Your propaganda news is sad and pathetic, the 5 Iranians kidnapped are engineers/technicians, Turkey is involved in trying to help release them, if they were as your propaganda claim, Turkey wouldn’t even try to get involved, besides, we’ve been hearing about Iranians, HA and Almahdi fighting with the regime since Daraa, how come after 10 months the terrorist ‘angels’ only captured 5, use your brain people!
Forcing those people to wear black and to say what those criminals are forcing them to say whatever has been repeated many times already and every time when people get released they exposed their kidnappers fake stories and this one is no different.
This clip is a total BS!
أول دليل بالصورة على وجود المهندسين الإيرانيين المختطفين بين أيدي مجرمي “كتيبة الفاروق” في حمص
المقارنة التي أجرتها “الحقيقة” مع الصور الأصلية للمخطوفين تؤكد أن الصورة حقيقية ، و ” تنسقية مصياف” تنضم إلى قطاع الطرق ولو .. بالتشجيع!؟
باريس ، الحقيقة ( خاص): نشرت الصفحة الخاصة لـ”تنسيقية مصياف” صورة مأخوذة من إحدى المجلات الفرنسية تظهر الملازم الأول الفار عبد الرزاق طلاس مع أربعة أشخاص قالت الصفحة إنهم من المهندسين الإيرانيين الذين اختطفهم مجرمو ما يسمى “الجيش السوري الحر”. ولم تذكر الصفحة اسم المجلة الفرنسية التي أخذت منها الصورة ولا تاريخ صدورها. وبدا في خلفية الصورة علم الانتداب الفرنسي وقد ظهر عليه نصف عبارة ” كتيبة الفاروق”. وهذا ما يؤكد تقرير”الحقيقة” الذي نشرته في 26 من الشهر الماضي ، بعد اختطاف المهندسين بأربعة أيام، لجهة أن “كتيبة الفاروق” هي الجهة الإجرامية التي وقفت وراء عملية الاختطاف.
“الحقيقة”، وبعد العودة إلى صورة للممختطفين كانت وزعتها وكالة أنباء “مهر” الإيرانية الشهر الماضي ، تستطيع أن تؤكد أن من يظهرون في الصورة مع المجرم عبد الرزاق طلاس هم فعلا بعض التقنيين الإيرانيين المختطفين . ويلاحظ أن اثنين منهم لا يزالان يرتديان الملابس نفسها التي كانا يرتديانها عند اختطافهما. إلا أن الصورة تطرح سؤالا كبيرا ، فهي لا تظهر سوى أربعة من المختطفين ، فأين الثلاثة الآخرون؟ هل أقدم المجرمون على قتلهم!؟
يشار إلى أن مجرمي “كتيبة الفاروق” التي روعت الناس قنلا وذبحا في حمص وضواحيها، ودمرت أنابيب الغاز والنفط في المنطقة، يهيمن عليها عناصر من “القاعدة” وتنظيم ” أنصار السنة” كانوا يقاتلون في الفلوجة والأنبار في العراق ، وعادوا إلى سوريا في وقت لاحق. وعلى رأس هؤلاء خالد غازي زغيب ( ” أبو قصي”).وكان هؤلاء أقدموا على اختطاف التقنيين في 21 من الشهر الماضي بينما كانوا في طريق عودتهم من محطة جندر لتوليد الطاقة الكهربائية ، حيث يعملون على تركيب وحدة لتوليد الطاقة تعمل على الغاز باستطاعة 500 ميغا واط كان ينتظر أن ينتهي العمل بها نهاية العام 2011. ولكي تتنصل من الجريمة، عمدت ” كتيبة الفاروق” إلى اختراع تنظيم وهمي كواجهة باسم “حركة مناهضة المد الشيعي في سوريا” تبنى عملية الاختطاف في بيان سلم حصرا لوكالة الصحافة الفرنسية!! وهو ما يؤكد أن ” كتيبة الفاروق” ، وكما أشرنا سابقا ، عبارة عن مجموعة تشكل واجهة لأنشطة المخابرات الفرنسية في حمص والمنطقة الوسطى عموما. وكانت صحيفة” لوفيغارو” كشفت في تشرين الثاني / نوفمبر الماضي عن أن المخابرات الفرنسية تدير المسلحين في حمص وضواحيها من شمال لبنان ، حيث تمدهم بالسلاح والصور الفضائية عن تحركات الجيش السوري!
تبقى إشارة أخيرة حول التعليق الذي وضعته صفحة” تنسيقية مصياف” على الصورة ، وهو تعليق يمجد ويشيد بعملية الاختطاف التي تسميها ” إلقاء القبض”! وهذا ما يؤكد أن التنسيقيات في قسم كبير منها مجرد واجهات لترويج الجريمة المنظمة. وستكون المصيبة أعظم إذا ما تأكد أن هذه الصفحة تقف وراءها سيدة واحدة تدعى ندى الخش ، العضو في حزب الاتحاد الاشتراكي الناضري الذي يقوده حسن عبد العظيم!؟ والسؤال الآن : منذ متى كان آل الخش ، الذين نعرفهم أبا عن جد، يمجدون قطع الطرق واختطاف الرهائن و / أو قتلهم؟
(*) ـ في متابعة لاحقة بعد نشر هذا التقرير ، تبين لـ”الحقيقة” أن صورة المختطفين الإيرانيين نشرت في مجلة ” باري ماتش” Paris Match ، العدد من 5 إلى 12 كانون الثاني / يناير 2012 . وقد أشارت المجلة إلى جانب الصورة أنها ملتقطة بتاريخ 20 من الشهر الماضي، أي في اليوم نفسه الذي اختطفوا فيه!
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/6477/Default.aspx
January 26th, 2012, 7:23 pm
jna said:
23. Amir in Tel Avivsaid: “…My name is Sajjad (Haider Ali) Aminan…”
Here is a picture of the five Iranian engineers before they were kidnapped in December.
http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20120126/shamseddin20120126170657280.jpg
Love in your video the rifles placed in the background. That’s supposed to lend authenticity?
January 26th, 2012, 7:43 pm
jad said:
Will hear about the new kidnapped Iranians soon from our SC ‘reporter’:
11 Iranians were kidnapped during a religious visit to Syria, the terrorists took the men and left the women in the bus:
السلطات الايرانية تعلن اختطاف 11 ايرانياً في سوريا اثناء زيارة دينية
أعلنت وكالة انباء “الجمهورية الاسلامية الايرانية” نقلاً عن المسؤول بهيئة الحج الايرانية مسعود اخوان أن 11 مواطناً ايرانياً خطفوا اثناء زيارة دينية لسوريا.
وقال اخوان “كانت حافلتهم في طريقها الى دمشق عندما هوجمت في مناطق سوريا الوسطى وخطف 11 من ركابها.”
وقالت قناة “برس تي في” في موقعها على الانترنت ان مجموعة مسلحة خطفت الرجال من الحافلة “ومضت بهم الى جهة غير معلومة وتركت النساء في الحافلة”.
واضافت ان المسلحين اتصلوا بأقارب احد المخطوفين في طهران وطلبوا فدية.
وذكرت وكالة انباء الجمهورية الاسلامية ان المتحدث باسم وزارة الخارجية الايرانية رامين مهمان باراست دان الهجوم ووصفه بانه “لا مبرر له” وطلب من دمشق اطلاق سراح المخطوفين.
Iranian pilgrims kidnapped in Syria
A group of armed militants have attacked an Iranian bus on the road connecting the capital, Damascus, to the northwestern city of Aleppo, Press TV reported.
The incident occurred on Thursday when a bus carrying Iranian pilgrims was stormed by unidentified gunmen.
The assailants kidnapped 11 men and drove off to an unknown destination, leaving the female passengers in the vehicle.
The gunmen contacted the relatives of a kidnapped passenger in Tehran, confirming the abduction of the Iranian nationals and demanding a ransom.
On December 21, five Iranian electrical engineers were kidnapped on their way to a power plant in the troubled Syrian city of Homs by unknown gunmen.
Two more Iranian experts, who were trying to clarify the situation of the five abducted engineers, have been kidnapped and there has been no immediate report about their whereabouts.
Syria has been gripped in months of unrest following the eruption of street rallies against the government of President Bashar al-Assad in mid-March.
The protests drew mass demos by supporters of the government who took to the streets across the country to condemn the unrest, and reject any foreign intervention in the country’s internal affairs.
The Syrian opposition accuses security forces of conducting a deadly crackdown on protesters, but Damascus blames terrorists and armed gangs for the violence it says is orchestrated from outside the country.
Syria says its security forces have been given clear orders not to harm civilians, and that many of those killed in the months-long unrest are army and police officers assassinated in terrorist attacks.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/223222.html
January 26th, 2012, 7:47 pm
Tara said:
JNA
Like 5 IRGs can not get together in civillians cloth at any time and take a picture. I just can’t understand how you could consider the photo you linked as evidence to the contrary.
January 26th, 2012, 8:04 pm
ann said:
At UN on Syria, Arab League Report Still Not In, Germany Says No Precondition
http://www.innercitypress.com/syria2annex012612.html
UNITED NATIONS, January 26, updated — After a morning in which several Western members of the Security Council said that the Arab League would brief the Council on Monday, when consultations broke up at 1:45 pm on Thursday, things were not so clear.
Russia’s Permanent Representative Vitaly Churkin stopped and told the Press that the Arab League monitoring report annex (which Inner City Press first reported on yesterday, here) has still not been received, “even in Arabic.”
Once it is, Churkin said, it must be translated into English — he said he did not demand Russian — and given to capitals. He mentioned a possible briefing on Tuesday. He told Inner City Press that “General Dabi,” the Sudanese chief of the monitoring mission, will be be available but that he requested, and no one objected, that if members request it Dabi come and brief at some later date.
Germany’s Deputy Permanent Representative Miguel Berger came out and said that having the annex “cannot be a precondition” for the briefing.
He said that Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi, and the Qatari minister Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani, now dubbed “HBJ” by some Council diplomats, would be able to tell the Council everything that is in the report.
Berger said Germany would have preferred Monday — which makes it sound like Tuesday at latest. Meanwhile some say HBJ arrives in New York on Saturday, so that could change. Watch this site.
Update of 4:10 pm — Inner City Press is reliably informed that the ArabLeague briefing of the Council is Tuesday 3pm, regardless of annex and translation (which will “probably” be done).
January 26th, 2012, 8:06 pm
bronco said:
Joshua
It is obvious that the regime as we know it will change as soon as the new Constitution is accepted and implemented. I hope that this will happen before 2013. Bashar is talking about a March 2012 announcement. The reforms will be announced, and the question is if, how and when they will be implemented.
There will be certainly changes in the ruling class and the ruling system but as we have seen in other Arab countries, the emergence of strong new personalities in Syria will not be very quick. Just in the last 10 months, we have not seen a single charismatic personality that could be accepted by the Syrians. Most are either weak or stained by the country that finances them or religiously oriented. There was a high hope that a Mandela or a Ghandi would emerge from the opposition but after 10 months, the hesitant Syrians saw nobody but greedy, confused, arrogant or polluted wannabees. They also saw the incoherence of the multiple oppositions, its shameless courting of the USA and Western countries whose Israeli agenda is clear to every Syrian living in Syria and historically suspicious of the West motives.
The suspicion towards the opposition has even increased when the opposition declared they wanted to scratch 40 years of foreign policy and adopt a US “client” approach to ensure the inflow of funds to restore the ailing economy.
To support the new rulers, there is still nobody else than the current army that may take decades to change and in the meantime, it will follow the same pattern and loyalties as before. No serious new leader would even consider disbanding the army. Iraq mess is still present in the mind of the people
My conclusion is that, yes the regime will change but will not fall. It will move ahead sustained by some leaders now present in the ruling class and some new faces with a new Constitution and essentially supported by the army in its present shape.
The same way the autoritarian military ruler brought Turkey within a number of years gradually and sometime awkwardly, to a democracy, Syria can move to a democracy erasing the old system without desmembering it.
2013 may be the beginning of that journey.
January 26th, 2012, 8:08 pm
ann said:
Terrorists gun down eight people across Syria on Thursday – 2012-01-27
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/27/c_131378175.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 26 (Xinhua) — At least eight people were killed and 20 others injured, including children, in separate attacks carried out by “armed groups” across Syria on Thursday, state-run SANA news agency reported.
Armed groups fired rocket propelled grenades (RPG) at three neighborhoods in central province of Homs, killing four people, including two women, and injuring 20 others, SANA said, adding that another armed group on Thursday shelled the Palestinian Camp neighborhood in Homs with mortars.
Earlier in the day, a colonel was killed by an armed group in front of his house in al-Wae’er area in Homs. Also, a First Lieutenant from the army engineering units was killed when trying to dismantle an explosive device which was remotely detonated in Khirbat Ghazala area in southern Daraa province, SANA said.
In a separate attack, an armed group assassinated an industrialist at Sheikh Najjar Industrial City in northern Aleppo province, SANA said, adding that the authorities are studying and analyzing information to hunt down the killers.
Also on Thursday, a law-enforcement member was killed by the gunfire of an armed terrorist group near Homs. Quoting what it described as “a well-informed source,” SANA said that the armed group opened fire on the car of the law-enforcement forces while crossing the Shinshar bridge near Homs and killed a member of them.
Meanwhile, engineering units dismantled two explosive devices in Homs, SANA said, adding that each device was handmade and weighed 25 kg.
In Damascus’ countryside and central province of Hama, the competent authorities continued hunting down “armed groups” and managed to confiscate some weapons and ammunition, some of which were made by Israel, SANA said.
The seized weapons included machine guns, bombs, Israeli-made bombs and explosive devices, communication devices, binoculars and night vision devices in addition to uniforms similar to what the Arab observers wore during their tours in Syria.
SANA said that the authorities also discovered an abandoned house Thursday, which had been used by “terrorists” to torture the kidnapped people, adding that a team of Arab observers had gone to the area and documented the incidents there.
On Tuesday, Syria agreed to extend the Arab League (AL) observer mission for a second month.
The AL started a monitoring mission in the country on Dec. 26 of last year to monitor the country’s unrest on the ground.
Meanwhile, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reportedly said that 49 people were killed Thursday across Syria, including eight Syrian soldiers and seven defectors.
The report, however, couldn’t be independently verified on the ground.
The Syrian government has charged that a media war is being launched to undermine Syria’s security and stability. It further says that it’s cracking down on armed groups that are targeting army men and civilians as well.
Some Syrian provinces, such as Homs, Hama, Idlib, and some suburbs of the capital Damascus, have witnessed severe clashes between government troops and militia groups, allegedly comprising of Syrian army defectors. The daily grind of violence has stocked fears that the country might be sliding toward a civil war.
The head of the so-called Syrian Free Army, a group of alleged defectors who were given refuge in Turkey, has recently pledged to carry out wide-scale attacks against army bases across Syria.
January 26th, 2012, 8:10 pm
alex said:
Joshua
There are many ways to feel safe at every high or sensitive position in army, security or government.
President Hafez relied on allies form the countryside and from all minorities, and secular Muslims he personal knew well. At his time there were many Ismaelis, Druze and … secular Muslims.
Mustapha tlass and Abdul Halim Khaddam were both Sunnis. When Khaddam started to get close to the Saudis in the late 90’s Hafez started to distance him. Bashar politely kept him outside the real decision making circle.
So, it is not by religion alone, but by a continuous assessment of level of sectarianism.
Bashar appointed many non-Alawites but he has another, subtle way to stay in control: make sure there is a trusted (Sunni or Alawite) near the top in the same department to monitor everything. For example, like all embassies of all countries, there is probably at least one security officer in there. It does not matter what religion is each ambassador …
Having said that … ALL of the army’s top generals are Alawites, minorities, or totally secular Sunnis. No one with religious tendencies will be promoted beyond a specific rank.
“The regime” is not only an Alawite regime … it has loyal support of many secular Sunnis.
January 26th, 2012, 8:20 pm
jad said:
Ahleen Bronco! 🙂
January 26th, 2012, 8:22 pm
irritated said:
The UN unable to update the death tool due to ‘fragmentation on the ground’ (whatever it means, maybe absence of the elusive Rami Abdul Rahman of the ODSH now vilified)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5juEhNjcVVaK5NlshHqdoZMraScwA?docId=CNG.2ed706274083b5e00481b72882b4a47d.4c1
Pillay gave a toll of more than 5,000 dead when she spoke to the Security Council in early December, but has not updated it.
Under secretary general B. Lynn Pascoe told the council on January 10 that at least 400 people had been killed since a widely criticised Arab observer mission deployed in Syria on December 26.
After meeting Security Council ambassadors again, Pillay said the toll had risen but added: “We are experiencing difficulties because of the fragmentation on the ground.
“Some areas are totally closed such as parts of Homs, so we are unable to update that figure,” she told reporters.
January 26th, 2012, 8:23 pm
bronco said:
Jad
Thanks…
January 26th, 2012, 8:25 pm
jad said:
Isht2nalak! Nice to see you back even for one comment.
I think Tara will be welcoming you back soon.
January 26th, 2012, 8:29 pm
zoo said:
A pro-Israel journalist proposes that the US accepts Bashar Al Assad survival if he signs peace with Israel and breaks the relation with Iran.
If Assad Survives, Peace with Israel?
by Daniel Freedman,
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfreedman/2012/01/25/if-assad-survives-peace-with-israel/
The outcome of the uprising in Syria has the potential to revolutionize Israel’s relations with her neighbors and turn the Middle East upside down for the better – if the current Syrian leader, Bashar Assad, survives. It would, however, require the type of foresight and deft diplomacy rarely seen anywhere these days, let alone in the Middle East.
(..)
January 26th, 2012, 8:38 pm
jna said:
Tara,
https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=13243&cpage=1#comment-292857
The picture shows that the five “confessed” Iranian Revolutionary Guards are the same men identified as Iranian engineers who were kidnapped in December.
January 26th, 2012, 8:48 pm
zoo said:
Who is kidnapping Iranian pilgrims?
Iran condemns kidnapping its pilgrims in Syria
2012-01-27 06:31:00
TEHRAN, Jan. 26 (Xinhua) — Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast condemned on Thursday kidnapping of 11 Iranian pilgrims in Syria, calling the act inhumane and unjustifiable, the local satellite Press TV reported.
Earlier on Thursday, a group of unknown gunmen attacked an Iranian bus on the road from the Syrian capital of Damascus to the northwestern Syrian city of Aleppo, abducting 11 Iranian men. The assailants drove off to an unknown destination afterwards, leaving the female passengers in the vehicle, said the report.
“These acts, which are against humane principles and moral and international obligations, are by no means justifiable, and it is expected that these people immediately free Iranian pilgrims,” Mehmanparast was quoted as saying.
(…)
January 26th, 2012, 8:58 pm
Anton said:
Dear Alex and all Syrian patriots and Syria Lovers
This article is worth to read , sorry for non Arabic speaking
please read it in entirety
http://www.champress.net/index.php?q=ar/Article/view/111510
please read it in entirety
I believed it all long, its not about regime or the president change or the well of Syrians people …
I believe this time will be no deals under/on the table, there will be winners and loser … both sides will go to the end, Syria is very important milestone in the whole plan, the end target is Russia and China, the Syrianna axe is blocking the way.
Thank you for let me comment
January 26th, 2012, 8:59 pm
Norman said:
I think you all wrong about who is in power in Syria, The Baath party is in power, and the only thing that all the officers in Syria share is their belonging to the Baath party, yes many minorities joined the Baath party that provided equal opportunity to them that was denied them before the Baath party time, The Syrian army is run by an ideological team that believe in Arab nationalism and are willing to fight to secure and preserve the independence of the Syrian decision and course, they will prevent Syria from being a puppet state, I want also to add that president Assad is the secretary general of the Baath party and that is what made him president contrary to public understanding,
President Assad and the Baath party have a plan for reform, if reform is what Syria is paying the price in blood for, the plan is to have a new constitution that allows only two 7 year terms for the president so he can have an out in not running again in 2014, the multi party system with no set aside for any party will secure that the Baath party will have to win the support of the people so many of the people that joined the Baath party for economic needs will leave and the Baath party will be leaner and more effective,
people who want to end the regime as we know it in Syria of single party system, referendum for president, should support the reform that is comming and should call the violent oppositions as they are, terrorism campaign ,
The Syrian army will be the safeguard for the peaceful transfer of power between the parties so we will not replace a dictatorship with another.
January 26th, 2012, 9:20 pm
ann said:
OPPENHEIMER: Drug war left out of State of the Union – Thursday, Jan. 26, 2012
http://www.modbee.com/2012/01/26/2043307/drug-war-left-out-of-state-of.html
In his State of the Union address on Tuesday, President Barack Obama talked about the conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria, but didn’t say a word about a war taking place next door that is killing more people than the others: the drug-related war in Mexico and Central America.
Was it a careless omission? Or is Obama — and, to be fair, his Republican critics — deliberately overlooking one of the world’s bloodiest wars because they don’t have a clue what to do about it? According to the Jan. 11 official report by Mexico’s Attorney General’s Office, the death toll in Mexico’s war against the drug cartels over the past five years has risen to 47,515. That’s slightly more than the casualties in Iraq over the same period, and nearly twice the number of victims in Afghanistan, according to human rights groups.
And that is without counting Central America. The drug war has turned Honduras into the country with the world’s highest homicide rate, with 82 deaths per 100,000 residents a year, followed by El Salvador with 66 deaths per 100,000 residents, according to United Nations figures. By comparison, the U.S. annual homicide rate is fewer than five deaths per 100,000 residents.
The morning after Obama’s speech, I asked former Mexican Foreign Minister Jorge Castaneda why he thinks Obama omitted these drug wars. He offered three possible explanations.
[…]
January 26th, 2012, 9:38 pm
ss said:
January 26th, 2012, 10:16 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Thank you Joshua, it is good article, however it is depressive to me.since I am in the opposition.
One year is long time, considering 50-100 are dying daily, a lot of things can happen meanwhile. infact depression and frustration could help the revolution to die out. I did not read in the article,what will bring Assad down, I did not read the economic factors that could play,and I did not see what the AL,and US and Europe,and Russia will do,nor I read what external changes could effect the crisis in Syria.
The reform that Bronco and Norman are talking about,is cosmetic,they are intended to passify the syrians, everyone knows that the Alawis and opportunistic Baath members are controlling Syria.
the fourth brigade has many loyal non Alawis,probably 50%,as I know some sunni there, The son of Mustafa Tlass is one of them,he was asked to stay away since this revolution started.
The FSA are increasing in number, Turkey and US and Europe credibilties will evaporate if they let the syrian down , Trouble in Iran and Iraq seems to get worse,the economy is deteriorating.
January 26th, 2012, 10:19 pm
ss said:
Its great feeling to hear the above song I linked and to watch the brave men in the Syrian army putting an end for the these criminal thugs who terrorized out country and took the lives of thousands of Syrians. Syria will be back and Assad will be the strongest president in the whole region. This was a big test and he nailed it. Congrats chief
January 26th, 2012, 10:21 pm
jad said:
الهروب من الحرب إلى المفاوضات!
حبيب فياض
دول مجلس التعاون الخليجي تنسحب من المبادرة العربية بشأن الأزمة السورية. الدور العربي يستوفي المطلوب منه بنقل هذه الأزمة إلى حيّز التدويل. في المقابل، الاتحاد الأوروبي يفرض عقوبات نفطية ومالية مشددة على إيران. دول عرب الخليج تبدي استعدادها لتأمين البديل عن النفط الإيراني المحظور. في كلتا الحالتين، الدول هذه تؤدي دوراً واحداً: تهيئة الأرضية لترحيل الأزمتين السورية والإيرانية، إلى الدوائر الدولية، مقدمة لإدخالهما في بازار التفاوض الدولي.
ثمة محاولات غربية للربط بين الأزمتين الإيرانية والسورية ووضعهما في سلة واحدة. إدراج طهران ودمشق في سياق مزدوج من العقوبات الأوروبية ليس من قبيل المصادفة. فالمعسكر الغربي يحاول التعامل مع الجانبين بوصفهما مشكلة مشتركة، ووفق آلية واحدة: عقوبات اقتصادية مشددة تهدف إلى الإضعاف، وأداة خليجية محددة المهام تدفع إلى التنازل. الجمع بين الأزمتين نابع من انعدام إمكانية الحسم، في ظلّ تعذّر إيجاد تسوية لإحداهما من دون الأخرى. لا إمكان لتفاهم إيراني مع الغرب ليست سوريا بنداً أساسياً فيه، كما لا حسم للأزمة السورية ما دامت طهران متحالفة معها.
الرئيس الأميركي يتحدث عن إمكانية التسوية السلمية للأزمة مع إيران، فيما تراجع الحديث الإيراني عن إقفال مضيق هرمز رغم العقوبات، ورغم مجيء حاملة طائرات أميركية إلى مياه الخليج، بمؤازرة فرنسية – بريطانية. يبدو أن ثمة توافقاً مبدئياً على عودة المفاوضات بين إيران والدول الست. المسألة النووية الإيرانية بصدد العودة إلى الكواليس الدولية، بعد انقطاع دام أكثر من عام. هي مفاوضات مجهولة الأفق رغم مقدماتها الواضحة.. الدور الأوروبي في هذا الخضم لا يتعدى كونه ممهداً لتفاوض إيراني – أميركي. هذا، من دون إغفال جهد عراقي لفتح ثغرة في جدار العلاقات بين الجانبين. أصلاً، لم يأت وقت وكانت فيه طهران وواشنطن على هذا القدر من الاستعداد للتفاوض. الملف النووي لم يعد جوهر المشكلة، بل تحول إلى مجرد مدخل تفاوضي على الملفات كلها. ليس لدى إيران استعداد لتقديم أي تنازلات نووية. كما ليس لدى الغرب أمل بأن تتراجع إيران قيد أنملة نووياً. المفاوضات المرتقبة، إما أن تفضي إلى تفاهمات متعددة وشاملة، وإما أن تدفع إلى قرع طبول الحرب والمواجهة.
بالمقابل، الانسحاب العربي الخليجي من الأزمة السورية يفسح في المجال أمام وضعها على أجندة التفاوض الإيراني – الدولي بمشاركة تركية. من المرجح أن تنعقد المفاوضات المرتقبة في اسطنبول حيث سيجلس على طاولة واحدة الأطراف التي تمتلك حل هذه الأزمة: إيران قد تعطي أميركا والغرب في العراق وأفغانستان، مقابل أن تأخذ منهما في سوريا. روسيا تبدو أكثر حزماً في رفض خياري العسكرة والعقوبات، وهي تعمل للتأثير على الموقف التركي، ودفعه إلى التخفيف من حدّة التصعيد ضدّ النظام السوري. فيما عين أنقرة على ملفات تعنيها في العراق، وهي تريدها من طهران تحت ستار من التوتير والتأزيم مع سلطة المالكي.
قدرة إيران النووية باتت امراً واقعاً، والأجدى غربياً التغاضي عن هذه القدرة ما دام الخيار العسكري مستبعداً، وما دامت العقوبات لن تغير من سلوك طهران حتى لو أنهكتها اقتصادياً. أما الأزمة السورية، فقد خرجت من طور الحسم ودخلت مخاض التسوية، بعدما استنفدت وسائل العمل على إسقاط النظام، رغم ما أصابه من إنهاك واستنزاف.
هل تنجح مساعي التهدئة في الوصول إلى تسوية؟ وهل يأتي يوم يتخلى الغرب عن ورقة العقوبات على دمشق وطهران، على «أساس» أن لا تخصيب لليورانيوم في سوريا ولا تظاهرات في طهران تطالب بإسقاط النظام الإيراني؟
January 26th, 2012, 11:42 pm
louai said:
Dear Dr,Landis
Among all the blogs out there yours and your writings are the most accurate that’s why, even i don’t come and read here much anymore but i keep direct all my western friends and colleagues to your blog because you always look after the Facts and i find myself learning things about
It was a typo , Rami is not my friends friend little brother ,he is my best friend little brother ,he was killed in the Lebanese borders 3 days ago in clashes with peaceful demonstrators ,he is from Babelsbaa ,his family always refused to move out from there but after their loos they can’t stay there any more ,just like my family .
As i said there is no way to prove what is the majority of the republican gourds manpower, its maybe true that alwaite are a majority number in the republican guards but defiantly they are not ‘’ Alawi to the man’’
I served in the Syrian army, i was sent 3 days to my unit’s jail because i was caught reading the bible, the military low is very clear and firm about practicing any religious activity in the service, this is not a bad thing in my opinion and highly needed.
Yes, in the army alawis are not minority specially in the high ranks ,in my opinion this is happens not only because the regime in a way or another want it ,but also because Christians and Sunni are not really into security and army business ,the reason behind it is not clear to me and i hope to hear your opinions about it if possible
I still refuse to see the problem in Syria now is Sunnis vs Alawis ,if its the case Aleppo and Damascus would be the heart of the revolution not Homs ,and the Sunni would already achieved whatever they are aiming
the regime has more support than anyone think not because its good deeds ,but because of the criminal acts of the opposition that till now proved they are one million time worst than this regime.
January 26th, 2012, 11:49 pm
Ghufran said:
مواطن مندس
لن أدخل في تاريخ النضال السلمي وإيجابياته وسلبياتها، ولكن ألم يكن شعار السلمية هو الذي جعل العالم كله يتعاطف مع ثورتنا ويجعله يصف الشعب السوري بأنه شجاع وجبار لايخشى الموت ومواجهة الآلة العسكرية بصدور عارية في سبيل الوصول لحريته وكرامته؟
ألم تؤدي السلمية إلى جذب المزيد من فئات الشعب السوري إلى جانب الثورة، وحرضتهم على الأقل على تقديم يد العون بأي شكل من الأشكال الممكنة.
ألم تحرك سلمية الثورة جهات دولية في البدايات باتجاه تبني مطالب الشعب السوري المحقة؟
ولكن، وفي الطرف المقابل ألم تؤدي السلمية إلى القتل المجاني للثوار بدون الخوف من المحاسبة، أو حتى الثأر الشخصي بسبب احساس القاتل بالأمان لأنه سيبرز عضلاته وجبروته نخو طرف يعرف أنه لا يؤذيه؟
ألم يؤدي هذا القتل المجاني إلى خوف فئات أخرى في المجتمع من الالتحاق عملياً بالثورة خشية التعرض للأذى ( فليس كل الناس على درجة واحدة من الشجاعة )؟
الم تؤدي السلمية إلى زيادة القتل والوصول للتعدي على الأعراض والأموال والكرامات الشخصية؟
وبالجهة المقابلة، هل تم حمل السلاح رغبة بالعنف والقتل؟ أم أن الجيش الحر ومن التحق به من العسكريين والمدنيين لجأ للحل العسكري دفاعاً عن النفس والدين والكرامة والأعراض؟ ألم يتم اللجوء للسلاح بعد تخاذل العالم كله عن دعم مطالب الشعب السوري، وخاصة بالمقارنة مع ثورات سلمية أخرى جرت بالمنطقة؟
هل يوجد ظرف أو مكان في الدنيا أفضل من سوريا لتطبيق مبدأ الشاعر النواب ( أولاد القحبة هل تسكت مغتصبة )؟؟
ولكن، أليس من المنطق أن نقول أن هذا السلاح أدى إلى فوضى كبيرة في انتشاره واستعماله؟ ألم تقع حوادث كثيرة مؤسفة بحق أبرياء ( ولن أذكر أمثلة كثيرة أعرفها شخصياً حفاظاً على أمانة المجالس ) ؟
ألم يؤدي هذا السلاح إلى تطرف بعض الجماعات بمطالبها، بحيث أصبحت تطالب بوطن على مقاسها وليس على مقاس الوطن نفسه؟؟
لا أدعي أنني أعرف الإجابات، ولا أدعي أنني أمتلك الحقيقة والحل، ولكني أدعي وأقول أن مايجري على أرض الواقع يختلف كثيراً عن الكلام النظري، وأعترف أنني على أرض الواقع أقوم بكثير من الأشياء بحكم قوانين ومسار أمور خارجة عن قناعاتي الفكرية النظرية!!!
January 26th, 2012, 11:59 pm
jad said:
Bribing Moscow:
النهار: موسكو تتعرض لاغراءات مقابل الامتناع عن التصويت بمجلس الامن
لفتت مصادر متابعة لـ”النهار” الى ان “الاتصالات الجارية مع روسيا تحاول ان تتلمس بعض النقاط التي شغلت الروس بالنسبة الى سوريا مع ابداء الاستعداد لاعطاء الضمانات اللازمة لها على صعيد مصالحها في سوريا بعد رحيل الرئيس السوري كما ضمان مصيرهذا الاخير وعائلته مع تأمين الحصانة لهم تماما كما جرى بالنسبة الى الرئيس اليمني علي عبد الله صالح باعتبار ان هذا الموضوع يشكل اشكالية في حد ذاته بعد الكم الهائل من الضحايا في سوريا”، يضاف الى ذلك “مجموعة اغراءات لموسكو على صعد عدة في مقابل الامتناع عن التصويت على الاقل وليس ممارسة حق الفيتو فيما تفيد هذه المعطيات عن انزعاج روسي من ان الدعوة الى اجتماع لمجلس الامن الثلثاء انما تمت عبر بريطانيا وليس عبر رئيسة المجلس لهذا الشهر اي جنوب افريقيا وان هذا الاجتماع سيعقد بعد الاستماع الى احاطة من الامين العام للجامعة نبيل العربي ووزير خارجية قطر حمد بن جاسم عن الوضع في سوريا”، مشيرة الى ان ” هناك محاولات تجرى وفق بعض المعطيات على اساس تبني مقدمة المشروع الروسي في القرار الذي يعمل على اصداره مجلس الامن على ان يتبنى في مضمونه الخطة العربية من اجل حل الازمة في سوريا والمتمثلة باعتماد النموذج اليمني اي تفويض الرئيس السوري صلاحياته الى نائبه، وبحسب المعطيات نفسها يراعى ايضا في القرار المرتقب تجنب فرض عقوبات دولية على النظام السوري وكذلك الامر بالنسبة الى فرض حظر الامداد بالسلاح، وهما الامران اللذان تحرص عليهما موسكو”.
وشددت على ان “الولايات المتحدة كما الدول العربية التي وضعت خريطة الطريق السياسي بالنسبة الى الحل في سوريا مصرة على بند الانتقال السلمي الذي ورد في الخطة والمتمثلة في تفويض الرئيس السوري صلاحياته الى نائبه باعتباره يجنب سوريا الحرب الاهلية بمعناها الاكبر مما يجري حاليا ويضمن بقاء المؤسسات، من جهة اخرى يبدو ان هناك دفعا للدول العربية من اجل ان تقود هذا التحرك جنبا الى جنب الدول الغربية ولا تترك هذه وحدها نظرا الى الحساسيات التي يثيرها تدخلها المباشر او غير المباشر، فالى الزيارة المرتقبة للعربي ووزير الخارجية القطري لنيويورك هناك مسعى الى دفع المغرب الذي احتل المقعد العربي في مجلس الامن وهو المقعد الذي شغله لبنان عضوا غير دائم في المجلس لان يكون المحفز الاهم على هذا الصعيد شأنه شأن الدور الذي لعبه لبنان بالنسبة الى الوضع في ليبيا مع اختلاف ما هو مطلوب في الحالة السورية عما جرى بالنسبة الى ليبيا”.
أفاد مصدر دبلوماسي لـ”النهار” أن “مشروع القرار المطروح على مجلس الامن بشأن سوريا هو غربي – عربي يشارك في اعداده مندوبون عن فرنسا وبريطانيا بالتشاور مع مبعوثي قطر والمغرب والولايات المتحدة والمانيا والبرتغال”، مشيرا الى ان “الاتصالات جارية مع موسكو من أجل اقناعها بالتحفظ عن المشروع في حال طرحه على مجلس الامن وليس استعمال حق النقض لتعطيله، لأن المشروع خال من أي تدخل عسكري ضد سوريا ومن اي عقوبات، وليس منحازاً الى المسلحين”.
January 27th, 2012, 12:08 am
Ghufran said:
Any sensible Syrian whether pro or anti regime has to be worried about the armed groups in Syria. These groups,outside the government troops,do not have a unified leadership and they are not held accountable by anybody. Hundred of Syrians were killed by armed men since march without a clear reason and without finding the perpetrators. The old slogan about regime shabeeha as an explanation to every single violent incident in Syria is not worth looking at any more,the problem of violence is now much bigger than a simple regime-opposition explanation,and this phenomenon,armed groups, will be one of the biggest challenges facing any future government,violence has no allegiance.
January 27th, 2012, 12:18 am
Zenobia said:
Good post by Joshua. For the most part, I think it pretty accurately describes what is on the horizon for a long while and the reasons why.
January 27th, 2012, 12:38 am
Juergen said:
SS 46
Your optimism is honoring you, but sorry i cant help it, why are rallies held by every regime as a proof of their support? I mean those endless crowds united in love for the leader, the kissing of innocent children, sorry i just dont think its authentic at all. The hitlergreeting in the beginning of the video, quite pathetic and i hope unintended.
January 27th, 2012, 12:40 am
zoo said:
Russia firm position: No removal of Bashar al Assad by the Arab League.
Russia Pledges to Block UN Resolution Calling for Syria’s Assad to Quit
By Henry Meyer – Jan 26, 2012 3:49 AM ET
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-26/russia-pledges-to-veto-any-un-call-for-assad-to-quit-as-syria-s-president.html
Russia vowed to block any United Nations Security Council resolution that calls for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to relinquish power.
Such demands “will simply never get approval,” Alexander Lukashevich, a Foreign Ministry spokesman, said by telephone from Moscow today. “This should be a matter for dialogue between the Syrians themselves and shouldn’t be imposed through a resolution.”
Arab and Western nations are seeking to pass a UN resolution supporting the Arab League’s call for Assad to step down and facilitate a peaceful transfer of power. Russia, as a permanent Security Council member, can veto any resolution.
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January 27th, 2012, 1:14 am
Jerusalem said:
Every evening, I do quick read of The Guardian, Financial times, Economist, New York times and so forth, you name it. One says Zabani is now with defectors of the Syrian army, other Homs with defectors,another Duma with defectors, Dara with defectors. My question is how come all these cities are with defectors yet, Assad is still in power? The best I’ve read was 30 Million Syrians are being tortured. 30 Million is more than the whole Syrian population. So where does the exaggeration of news stop???
I saw on Euro News a quick interview with an old man from Homs crying (he owns small run down convenient store). The reporter asked for the reason of his tears. He replied: I give anything, all this, including my clothes for Homs to be as it was before. Peace & security are very valuable we don’t know what are they worth until we loose them. So for those who are blowing off reality out of proportion to further ulterior motives must stop. It’s destroying lives. Disinformation ignites fire and does not harbor peace. If there is a shimmering light of talks between opposition and government, all sides must contribute.
January 27th, 2012, 1:18 am
jad said:
So true:
Lousy Syrian National Council
The lousy Syrian National Council issued a silly proclamation to the Lebanese people. In it, it said not one word about the abuse of Syrian workers in Lebanon. Who wrote this silly piece? Propagandists of Mini-Hariri? It has their tone and language.
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil
January 27th, 2012, 1:21 am
jad said:
Zoo
Haytham Manna3 told the oppositions and the AL from yesterday that if they want results from they need to go to RUSSIA not the US…hopefully they won’t since what they are looking for is another Iraq scenario to happen in Syria and they’ll pay for it.
To be very honest, I’m surprised of the Russian stand, this is the first time they are actually pushing back, usually they are the first to cave in for the west, this time they are still standing firm, I wonder if Qatar can pay them off with the billions$ they have:
قناة فرنسا24: الدكتور هيثم مناع
http://youtu.be/j-IepQBaQbk
January 27th, 2012, 1:28 am
syria no kandahar said:
I think Joshua assessment is accurate if the sectarian factor and the external factors were not so deep.The struggle in Syria now is not between Assad and the opposition,that is just the surface of struggle,as we all know.The core of this struggle is external.
The pressure ternal struggles between powers is being transmitted
into the inside and shoes as internal struggle and vice versa the internal sectarian and economical struggle is being used by the external powers as a way to have some leverage in the struggle of this century between Iran and the west and the US.Analysing Syria’s internal affairs without putting all this factors in consideration is a neglect of the physics of the middle east policies.
If Syria was where Bahrain is,and if Bashar was Sunni,SA would have sent their army to help suppress an Alawi uprising the same way they are doing in Bahrain now.
I think the Bandr plan has been very successful and syria as a unified country has died.syria today is desmemered into pieces and
the wall of fear has been broken to a degree that it is in many places now a lawless country .The internal struggle in Syria is currently between Islamists and Minorities and peacefull sunnis.
The road is long and bloody,Minorities and many peace loving sunni
will not let syria controlled by alqaeda(FSA,SNC…).Terrorists
Islamists can not be lived with,and the only exit minorities will have is:DIVISION.
January 27th, 2012, 2:07 am
Shami said:
Alex ,who are those stricly secular sunnis ?
Do you know many non corrupt sunnis who support the regime ? nothing !btw even these coward sunnis who once worked for the regime , will go to qurdaha in order to urinate on Hafez’s grave.
It must be noticed that since the begining of the revolution, the regime is using people with historical phobia against the dominant culture in Syroa such as the khomainist Rafic Lutayf and the Shabiha lebanese sister , Agnes de la Croix.
You can add ,the sectarian lebanese crowd ,who are the super stars of the regime media ,such as Wahab ,Samaha,Lebanese khomainists,Aounists,….
The regime is not very different from those in power in Lebanon and in Iraq.The difference is that the syrian people as whole has a centuries old culture of co existence,this is what is guenine in Syria,the facade that Alex or Jad like to present as the regime, is constructed through corruption and sectarian selection,we all know who are the people who control almost everything in Syria :the inner circle of Bashar.What do represent the power of a minister in front of a member of the mafia from the inner circle ?
January 27th, 2012, 2:17 am
Shami said:
It’s also not true that a large majority of the christians in Syria support the regime ,the islamophobs among them of course.
The alawite intellegensia is also very active in the opposition.
The regime is punishing with blood and jail ,those among the minorities who refuse to integrate the regime’s sectarian division scheme.
Syria belongs to the Syrian people ,Assad’s fate should become a lesson of history for the next generations.
January 27th, 2012, 2:25 am
Shami said:
The problem with Haytham Mana3 is that he is a nostalgic of Soviet Union,he is happy to see in Putin a new Staline.
January 27th, 2012, 2:35 am
Revlon said:
3. louai:
”such as the Republican Guard led by Bashar’s brother, is Alawi to the man.” Really? My best friend friends little brother Rami Abdoush who got killed two days ago was not Alawi and he was a lieutenant in the republican guards))
I agree!
Not every one of the RG is 3alawi.
The first defector of Assad army, Soldier W. AlQashami was Sunni from Dar3a.
HOWEVER, it remains a stated fact that Non-Alawis in the RG are the exception to the rule. They are appointed as a favour / by“Wasta”, on the basis of family/loyalty basis.
I would estimate that 100% of the high ranks of Rep Guards to be Assad-Makhloof clan, nearly 99% of its second and third tier officers to be 3alawis, and 80 to 95% of its ranks and files to be Alawis.
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((Everyone feels no need to give any reference to what he/she is saying as long as its about Syria !!Even Dr.Landis. As far as i know in Syria we don’t write on ID cards the religion of the person , where people get this information from?)).
If sect is recorded neither in ID nor in civil registry and the government does not provide such statistics, then one is allowed to use word of mouth estimates, supported by testimonies of insiders/defectors.
THE sectarian nature of the regime has long been attested to by insiders, including the late, eminent Alawi writer M. AlMaghout.
THE high proportion of Alwais in the high ranks of the army and intelligence forces is common knowledge. It has been corroborated by testimonies of veterans of the Syrian army, and recently the FSA defectors.
THE rate of unemployment amongst Alawis is 0% copared to 40% amongst Sunnis. Moreover, a proportion of Alawis are over-employed by the government. They occupy more than one position in governmental or para-governmental offices.
99.99% of Alawis are employed by the regime government, compared to less than 30% of Sunnis.
Let me support this claim by provideing you with figures from my extended family of brothers and sisters, for an example.
2 out of 17 of our bread winners are employed by the government. An extended Alawi family in Ikrima in Homs with similar head count would have all of their 17 members employed by the government; many even over-employed.
HOW do people get selectively employed without ID proof of their sect?
Do I need to tell you Louai?
THERE are two reasons why I regard such regime’s practice is sectarian and not clan or tribal nepotism?
– First, its base is the Alawi sect.
It is not based in one clan or tribe of the Alawis.
Almost all Alawis have benefited from this practice for the past 50 years.
– Second, Alawis in the decision making establishment have tried to impose their sect way of life on the rest of the Sunnis public by persecuting those who go to mosques and wear conservative attire.
Others, including many on SC speak to or write about main stream Muslems, traditions and their leaders with disrespect and contempt.
GIVEN time, the current hign fertility rate amongst Alawis, and existing sect-based emmployment rate, 100% of the public sector jobs, including army, intelligence services, and service sector shall become monopolised by Alawis.
THE rise of the regime-sponsored, Alawis business, shall gradually phase out traditional Sunnis merchants and establish themselves as the custodians of the Stock markets of Syria.
January 27th, 2012, 2:43 am
Syria no kandahar said:
After wahabis in Iraq cleaned out Christians out of
Iraq refugees above or underground ,Syrian Alqaeda Revolution is finishing the job:
January 27th, 2012, 3:12 am
Syria no kandahar said:
Revlon Enemies:All the real Syrians:
January 27th, 2012, 3:22 am
Syria no kandahar said:
FSA:Demonstrators protection services.
ما بدنا ندبح العلويه
ما تخافو
January 27th, 2012, 3:28 am
Revlon said:
19. jad
FIRST
The paralle with US is laughable!
Africans American do not monopolise the command of the American armed forces, like the minority Alawi do!
An African American made it to the presidency where Citizens of European ancestry predominate; Do you think there will ever be a chance that this Alawis bunch will let one of the majority Sunnis be their president and commander of the armed forces?
SECOND
Alawis command 100% of the decision making posts in Syrian regime; what you wrote is insignificant details.
Here is the comment that I posted earlier, in reply to your re-posted comment:
43. REVLON:
The decision makers in Syrian politics, economy and security are 100% 3alawis.
They are B Asad, M Asad, R Makhloof, and the rest of the Asad-Makhloof Gang.
The ministers, the governors, the Baath party employees, and all of the public sector chiefs are benefactors and merely carry out The Gang’s orders
The main intelligence agencies in Syria are:
– The National Security Directorate
– The Military Intelligence
– The Air Force Intelligence
Each has branches all over the country.
Other independant agencies exit, including those of the palace and special strike forces; their chiefs are 3alawis.
The heads of the branches, not wisstanding their alleged numbers or sects merely carry out the orders of their 3alawis chiefs.
Those who have been giving orders to kill civilians, like those who did in Hama before have been 100% 3alwis; Asad-Makhloof now and Asad-Douba before.
October 28th, 2011, 12:53 am
January 27th, 2012, 3:34 am
Syria no kandahar said:
Victims of ALAAROOR Worshippers(FSA):
January 27th, 2012, 3:39 am
Syria no kandahar said:
Demonstrators from snow,will melt as soon as the sun rises:
January 27th, 2012, 3:46 am
Syria no kandahar said:
Christian Syrian Revolutionary Council
Christians are turning into Jihadists
For what?not virgins eligible,hell quarantined status in the other world and now in this world.
SNC is recruiting Christian suicide bombers,if interested apply at:www.Revlonthererrorist.com:
January 27th, 2012, 3:58 am
Pirouz said:
Regarding the YouTube video of the five captured Iranian Revolutionary Guards, it is most likely a fake.
Persian speakers have identified the accent of the speakers as belonging to a provincial minority, possibly even Dari.
Rather than providing snipers, as this video is attempting to purport, any IRGC in Syria are likely to be experienced observers. The SyA now has many months of fighting this type of conflict, to which the Iranians have much less recent experience. In addition, as the FSyA and armed groups are receiving a level of support from Western military Special Forces, so naturally studying their tactics would be of interest to the IRGC.
Professor Landis, regarding your statement:
“In fact, many analysts insist that most fighting is being done by small units organized on the local level that do not take orders from Col. Asaad or other leaders, even if they call themselves members of the Free Syrian Army.”
This has been my observation, as well, in interpreting the YouTube videos and photos of these small, hodgepodge units. In addition, I’ve come across videos of FSyA elements purported to be recent defectors and they’re wearing bushy beards, so draw your own conclusion about that.
An interesting read. Thanks you.
January 27th, 2012, 4:27 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Claimed footage of a crowd in Homs greeting defecting troops of the 4th Brigade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mlfIZ4JrzBg
PS What is the theme of this Friday?
Don’t expect many demos today. There’s a stormy weather outside.
.
January 27th, 2012, 5:01 am
ann said:
71. Amir in apartheid tel aviv said:
PS What is the theme of this Friday?
It’s “kill an israeli” Friday!
January 27th, 2012, 5:09 am
Juergen said:
Pirouz
I made some observations too, many wounded soldiers in the hospitals shown as well as the shabiha fighters like this video where they madmaxstyle randomly shoot in the town, alot had beards. As i know the syrian army, any religious sign is not allowed, to grow a beard is not allowed. How come some have beards? Is there now a shortcut of razor blades? Honi soit qui mal y pense…
January 27th, 2012, 5:11 am
Antoine said:
JUERGEN,
Hezbollah fighters have beards, plus Syrian forces when mobilized, many do not get to shave as well.
January 27th, 2012, 5:51 am
Antoine said:
I shave only once a week, just before I shave I have a thick, bushy beard, what am I ?
January 27th, 2012, 5:54 am
annie said:
So, he is Alaoui first and fuck the Syria who rejects him :
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?207806-Assad-Plans-To-Establish-%93Coastal-State%94
I don’t think he will find enough followers among his tribe
January 27th, 2012, 5:59 am
annie said:
72. ann said:
71. Amir in apartheid tel aviv said:
PS What is the theme of this Friday?
It’s “kill an israeli” Friday!
Ann not only do you spam but when you speak this is totally unacceptable and stupid. It is your beloved Prez who is killing Syrians, for once the Israelis aren’t.
January 27th, 2012, 6:02 am
Juergen said:
Antoine
i was asking sarcastingly, but since the regime is not depending on religious mercenaries from foreign countries as it claims i thought may be there was a novelation of the rules or they ran short on razor blades…
January 27th, 2012, 6:11 am
Juergen said:
Antoine
i was asking sarcastingly, but since the regime is not depending on religious mercenaries from foreign countries as it claims i thought may be there was a novelation of the rules or they ran short on razor blades…
January 27th, 2012, 6:12 am
Juergen said:
Annie
Thanks for sharing the article.
Do you think Khaddam is credible? Does he still have ties and sources in Syria?
I think i have eaten once in one of his restaurants which he owned prior to his departure for France.
January 27th, 2012, 6:32 am
Akbar Palace said:
Syria Comment’s Cesspool Still Alive & Kicking
It’s “kill an israeli” Friday!
Ann,
Good idea. You may want to inform your prized leader Besho about your new strategy since he seems so much more adept at killing arabs.
Annie,
Thank you for putting “Spann” in her place…
January 27th, 2012, 7:03 am
irritated said:
Annie #76
“So, he is Alaoui first and f… the Syria who rejects him ”
So that’s what you are craving for then?
January 27th, 2012, 8:29 am
Ghufran said:
أفادت صحيفة “الراي” الكويتية اليوم نقلا عن مسؤول كبير في “المجلس الوطني السوري” المعارض المنبثق من اسطنبول ان السعودية ستعترف بهذا “المجلس” الذي يمثل تيارات المعارضة للنظام السوري ، “كممثل رسمي” للشعب السوري.
وصرح العضو في المكتب التنفيذي “للمجلس الوطني السوري” احمد رمضان للصحيفة ان وزير الخارجية السعودي الامير سعود الفيصل ابلغ وفد المجلس الذي التقاه في القاهرة الاسبوع الماضي وكان هو في عداده “ان المملكة ستعترف بالمجلس الوطني السوري كممثل رسمي للشعب السوري”.
It is too little too late.
January 27th, 2012, 8:31 am
Ghufran said:
أعلن نائب وزير الخارجية الروسي غينادي غاتيلوف، اليوم الجمعة، أن موسكو لن تدعم أي مشروع قرار في مجلس الأمن الدولي يدعو الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد الى التنحي، بحسب ما نقلت عنه وكالة أنباء “إنترفاكس
Does this mean a veto? Probably,but I do not believe Russia will support Assad til the end,he needs to deliver results.
January 27th, 2012, 8:35 am
zoo said:
Syrians hold rallies denouncing Arab new stance on Syria
2012-01-26 19:03:31
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/26/c_131377920.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 26 (Xinhua) — Hundreds of thousands of people thronged main squares across Syria on Thursday to demonstrate in solidarity with embattled President Bashar al-Assad and express rejection of the recent Arab League (AL) plan calling on Assad to step down.
Syrian across the country carried big posters of Assad and huge Syrian flags, changing slogans and singing national songs via loudspeakers.
“We are here to denounce the AL decision that came in compliance with the Western schemes against our country,” Malek Ali, 30, told Xinhua during a rally at Saba’a Bahrat square in the Syrian capital of Damascus.
January 27th, 2012, 8:41 am
Ghufran said:
Following news that the kingdom plans to recognise the Syrian National Council, the Saudi newspaper the Arab News has published a trenchant editorial calling for UN intervention in Syria.
The English language paper is independent, but Saudi newspapers are not known for veering too far from Saudi foreign policy:
The editorial describes the Arab League’s monitoring mission as a smokescreen and says this about UN intervention:
It is clear that the sooner this growing tragedy can be referred to the United Nations and the international community can be persuaded to support firm action against the Assad regime, the more lives will be spared. At the moment this looks like a conflict that can only escalate, with potentially grievous consequences, not simply for all Syrians, but the wider region …
Many among Syria’s opposition groupings suspected that the monitors had come to defend and exonerate the Assad administration. The injudicious early comment by the mission’s leader Sudanese General Mohammed Al-Dabi, to the effect that he could see no serious violence, lent credence to this view. Few, however, should now doubt the determination of the monitors to tell it as it is in their official report to the League. The GCC countries quit because they had already seen enough of the regime-inspired violence. There was no further point in staying.
January 27th, 2012, 8:46 am
Tara said:
Bronco
CC: Jad
And I ishtetalak too. Welcome back.
January 27th, 2012, 8:47 am
Syrialover said:
Sorry, even when I try out of respect for Alex I find it too hard to get my head to hold the concept of the Assad regime “reforming” and entitled to keep going because they are still trusted and preferred by masses of Syrians.
Cruelty, corruption and waste. What Assad and Syria will be now permanently known for by the world. It’s 2012. Game over.
I hated that comment suggesting a future like North Korea because I am afraid. I know a significant number of Syrians, even in “unaffected” Damascus and Aleppo, are now suffering without electricity and communications, unable to feel safe in their homes or travel to see family, have no work, and most distressing of all, cannot afford to buy their normal daily food.
The regime has created that for Syrians and is indifferent to what happens beyond its own survival. The reasonable words and hopes from Alex and co seem surreal and removed from reality. Let’s admit it’s frightening to think in terms of the real world for Syria in 2012, instead of painting wishful secenarios and imagining that what’s broken (or never worked in the first place) can be fixed.
January 27th, 2012, 8:56 am
bronco said:
Thanks, Tara
I am still full of hopes for a resolution.
January 27th, 2012, 9:11 am
Revlon said:
الناشط عمر التلاوي في كرم الزيتون مشفى ميداني 26-1-2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj8xcO9JCHg
الناشط عمر التلاوي في كرم الزيتون بالمشفى ميداني 26-1-2012
This gentlement was evacuated to a makeshift, first aid point, in a room in an appartment.
He seems gasping for air due to gun shot wound in the chest.
All that rescuers were able to do was to stop external bleeding.
A simple, on site insertion of a chest tube would make the difference between life an death for this poor soul and normal and sad life to his family.
The roads around this neighbourhoods are sealed by tanks and made deadly by snipers.
By labelling these people as terrorists, Jr gave a code order for their execution!
January 27th, 2012, 9:16 am
annie said:
89. Revlon That video
Imagine your loved one dying in front of your eyes and may be he could be saved but the bloody prez wants him dead
January 27th, 2012, 9:47 am
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Syria Comment’s Cesspool Still Alive, thanks to landis and Otrakji..
January 27th, 2012, 10:28 am
Revlon said:
90- Hi Annie,
The sad thing is that educated people claiming to be secular, who enjoy a sense of security and the full benefits of the bill of rights, including those who contribute to SC, still support the president, his regime, and the killing machine; the military and security establishment.
Helplessly watching videos of victims dying of simple to treat injuries has become so painful, to the extent that I wonder whether it is ethical any more.
I honestly do not know how devastated I would be if it happened to a loved one; I am afraid I am becomming numb to the sight of human suffering….
January 27th, 2012, 10:37 am
Revlon said:
6. Dear SANDRO LOEWE:
((Five Iranian Republican Guard´s members detained:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlgPMlklJSU&sns=em ))
Thank you for the link!
70. Dear Pirouz:
((Persian speakers have identified the accent of the speakers as belonging to a provincial minority, possibly even Dari.))
So your first conclusion is that they speak Persian!
That is not fake, is it?
((Rather than providing snipers, as this video is attempting to purport, any IRGC in Syria are likely to be experienced observers. The SyA now has many months of fighting this type of conflict, to which the Iranians have much less recent experience))
So you agree that those people were IRGC but you contest their confession of being snipers and favour them being on “Observation/learning mission”, and You base it on personal argument!
May I counter argue with the following, related caveats:
-Iran has had an earlier experience with violent silencing of uprising Iranians seeking Freedom; Their related experience would come in handy to their distressed friend.
-The Iranian leadership has repeatedly pledged full support for Assad regime; Sending IRGC to observe tJr’s predicament can hardly be described as proper conduct towards friends. You do not sit and observe your friends’ drowning in their misery; you give them a hand, and this situation clutching a sniper rifle!
((In addition, as the FSyA and armed groups are receiving a level of support from Western military Special Forces, so naturally studying their tactics would be of interest to the IRGC.)).
May I counter argue that you have just stated earlier in this edition that you think that most if not all of the Units of the FSA to be autonomous and not under direct command from Turkey-based leadership, where any “Some kind of support” could hypothetically come from!
May I also remind you that in spite of the several months claims of foreign intervention, neither the regime nor its regional or global supporters have come up with a shred of evidence of “foreign”, logistical or operational support of FSA.
Your opening characterisation of “the YouTube video of the five captured Iranian Revolutionary Guards, as most likely fake is both emotional and unsubstantiated.
January 27th, 2012, 10:42 am
jna said:
What the opposition, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar want…remove the Arab League monitors, and send in much more arms to the opposition so the killing can get worse. Of course, don’t touch any idea of negotiating a democratic transition.
January 27th, 2012, 10:48 am
Revlon said:
Statement of AlFarouq Battalion of the FSA to the Supremen leader of Iran on the occasion of revealing the full indentities of the arrested Iranian Infiltrators.
الجزيرة مباشر بيان كتيبة الفاروق ورسالة الى ايران على لسان أبو باسم الناطق باسم كتيبة الفاروق 26 1 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z7YJKdrtjc&feature=player_embedded
Uploaded by aln3eem001 on Jan 26, 2012
We, members of AlFarouq Battalion of the FSA are friends of the Iranian people.
We are neither sectarian nor promote sectarianism.
We respect the Supreme leader of Iran; we regard him as an Islamic scholar who is prone to be right or wrong.
We herwith call upon him to clearly admit to the presence of elements from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard (IRG) in Syria, supporting the regime in their crackdown on the rising Syrian people.
We ask him to call back home all IRG’s as soon as possible, by no later than 12:00 noon, Saturday, 28/01/20112.
Once withdrawn, we shall be obliged to release all of our Iranian prisoners.
The 7 Iranians has been captured in two stages.
Two has been proven to be technicians working in Jandar Power Station (Homs). Their Iranian Passports carry Syrian immigration entry stamps, including prior to the Revolution and carry residence visas and work permit.
The other five are military personnel. They are under the command of the Air Force Intelligence branch of Homs.
Their passports have no entry stamps, residence visa, or work permit.
We have additional sensitive information that we chose to keep to our selves at this stage; the aim being to avoid any potential embarresment of the others and to give a chance for reconciliation.
January 27th, 2012, 11:32 am
jad said:
The story from the other side:
“The Syrian capital is divided by protests as residents flee. CNN’s Arwa Damon reports.”
Cities, residents divided in Syria
http://youtu.be/uCRRoNFq-C8
January 27th, 2012, 11:38 am
Pirouz said:
(sorry, there was a problem with my last post)
73. JUERGEN said:
When in the field for an extended period, you’ll find unshaven SyA soldiers. However the “recently defected” SyA soldiers I’m referring to resemble salafi type fighters in Afghanistan. Again, you’re free to draw your own conclusions.
93. REVLON said:
-We heard previously from Israeli sources that DIO manufactured (Iranian) sniper rifles were being rushed to Syria, but no evidence was put forward.
-During the post-2009 election civil unrest in Iran, it was primarily the national police (NAJA) that dispersed unlawful assemblies, not the IRGC. What’s more, unlike the present situation in Syria, in Iran it was not a militarized response.
-On a number of occasions the Iranians have reached out to the SNC, most recently in Turkey, in an effort to get the two sides talking. But the SNC isn’t interested, and such a move would jeopardize current Western special forces assistance, and any further support from Western powers.
-There is plenty of evidence of Western military assistance to the FSyA and armed groups. One has only to point to the some of the non-SyA issue weapons currently fielded by these groups, such as the M16 and G3, as well as certain makes of NV equipment .
-Armed groups in Syria are holding a small number of Iranians including technicians and pilgrims. It’s a form of indirectly pressuring the Syrian regime through their ally. It will no doubt continue in the months ahead.
January 27th, 2012, 11:41 am
jad said:
JNA,
The gulf states want nothing but a civil war, they are not only arming the oppositions, I read that they are sending weapons to Syrian religious minorities too so people start killing each others and for Syria to become another Lebanon.
—————————————–
Presidency of Arab League seeks to bury own experts’ report
Since the outbreak of the events that have cast a dark shadow over Syria, two interpretations stand in opposition to each other: for the West and their Gulf allies, the regime crushed the popular revolution in blood, while for Syria and its BRICS allies, the country is assailed by armed groups coming from abroad.
To shed light on these events, the Arab League created an Observer Mission composed of persons appointed by each Member State (except Lebanon which declined to participate). This diversity of experts constituted a guarantee against the possible manipulation of the outcome; their number (over 160) and the duration of their mission (one month) would provide a much broader picture than was previously available. To date, no other party can claim to have conducted a survey as comprehensive and meticulous, and therefore can not claim to know better the situation in Syria.
The Ministerial Committee of the Arab League, responsible for monitoring the Arab Plan and composed of five League members out of the 22 (Algeria, Egypt, Oman, Qatar, Sudan) ratified the observer mission report by 4 votes against 1 (that of Qatar) and decided to extend the mission by one month.
The problem is that the report confirms the version of the Syrian government and demolished that of the West and the Gulf monarchies. In particular, it demonstrates that there were no lethal crackdowns on peaceful demonstrators and that all the commitments made by Damascus have been scrupulously honored. It also validates the important fact that the country is in the grips of armed groups, who are responsible for the death of hundreds of Syrian civilians and thousands among the military, as well as for hundreds of acts of terrorism and sabotage.
For this reason, Qatar now seeks to prevent the dissemination of the report by any means. Indeed, it is a real bomb that could explode in Qatar’s face and against its communication device.
Qatar currently holds the Presidency of the League, not because it was its turn, but because it bought that of the Palestinian Authority which would have been next in line.
The presidency of the League has decided not to circulate the report of the Observer Mission, nor to translate, and not even to post the original in Arabic on its website.
The Wahhabi emirate is up against a huge risk. If by chance the Western public were to gain access to the report, it is Qatar and its proxies that could be held accountable in terms of democratic deficiencies and involvement in the killing of people.
http://www.voltairenet.org/Presidency-of-Arab-League-seeks-to
January 27th, 2012, 11:43 am
jad said:
Now we understand the reason of Jumblat visit to the mule of qatar, he is doing the negotiation on their behalf with the Russians for the UN meeting:
جنبلاط:لضرورة لجوء النظام السوري لحل سياسي يشمل كل الأفرقاء لوقف الظلم
الخبر برس : الإخبارية اللبنانية
أكد رئيس جبهة “النضال الوطني” النائب وليد جنبلاط على “ضرورة لجوء النظام السوري إلى حل سياسي، يشمل كل الأفرقاء المتنازعة، والدول المعنية بالمنطقة، للوصول إلى تفاهم مشترك، يوقف “الظلم” الضي يعاني منه الشعب السوري”.
وأشار جنبلاط في حديثه الى وكالة “أنباء موسكو” إلى “وجود بعض التفاوت في تفهم الجانب الروسي والأطراف الأخرى للأزمة السورية”، مؤكدا أن “النظام السوري بدأ في العنف، ما أدخل البلاد في حلقة العنف والعنف المضاد”، منوها إلى أن “الموقف الروسي يريد وقف العنف من الاتجاهين”.
واضاف جنبلاط إنه “لم يتطرق في حديثه مع وزير الخارجية الروسي سيرغي لافروف إلى خطط مجلس الأمن حول الأزمة السورية”، مشيرا إلى أن “الحديث دار بشكل أساسي حول أهمية الحل السياسي، المبني على خطة السلام العربية”. كما عبر عن “قناعته بضرورة إدانة العنف”، ووجوب “تحميل السلطة السورية المسؤولية، لأنها بدأت بالعنف”، واضاف “لا أستطيع الحديث باسم المعارضة السورية، فأنا لست مكلفا من أحد، ولأنني حريص على سوريا كسوريا، والسلم الأهلي في سوريا، لا بد من حل سياسي مبني على بنود الجامعة العربية بشكل كامل، الذي لم يلتزم بها -مع الأسف- النظام السوري، عندما قبل بالمراقبين ما أدى إلى استمرار العنف”.
وحول بوادر تغيير في الموقف الروسي من الأزمة في سوريا، اوضح جنبلاط ان “الروس شعروا بمرارة بعد ليبيا، ويجب أن يكون هنالك موقف واضح بين الروس والأميركيين والغرب، والفرقاء المعنيين مباشرة، وهم الجيران لسوريا الأتراك وإيران من أجل تحديد موقف مشترك يخرج سوريا من حلقة العنف، ويوقف العنف تجاه المتظاهرين، مؤكداً أن “الحل السياسي وحده ينقذ سوريا”.
ونفى جنبلاط أن “يكون النقاش قد دار بينه ولافروف، حول تنحي الرئيس الأسد أو تولية صلاحيته لنائبه”، مؤكدا أن “المعارضة السورية هي التي تقرر هذا الأمر”، واضاف جنبلاط “لست هنا مخولا من قبل المعارضة السورية، لكن هناك شعبا سوريا، ظلم كثيرا وكثيرا، نصيحتي أن يكون هناك حل سياسي من أجل تجنيب سوريا مزيدا من العنف”.
http://www.alkhabarpress.com/SiteNews/details.php?docId=30377
January 27th, 2012, 11:53 am
Revlon said:
الأب باسيليوس شهيد الكنيسة
Father Basilius; Martyr of the Church
Posted on Jan 26, 2012
Syrian Christians for Democracy
http://syrian-christian.org/%d8%a7%d9%84%d8%a3%d8%a8-%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%b3%d9%8a%d9%84%d9%8a%d9%88%d8%b3-%d8%b4%d9%87%d9%8a%d8%af-%d8%a7%d9%84%d9%83%d9%86%d9%8a%d8%b3%d8%a9/
“أَنَا هُوَ الْقِيَامَةُ وَالْحَيَاةُ. مَنْ آمَنَ بِي وَلَوْ مَاتَ فَسَيَحْيَا”
واشنطن، 25 كانون الثاني 2012
إرتكب اليوم النظام السوري جريمة وحشيّة جديدة تضاف إلى قائمة جرائمه السابقة بقتله الأب باسيليوس نصّاركاهن كنيسة السيدة في بلدة كفربهم التابعة لمحافظة حماه. أن محاولات بشّارالأسد جرّ البلاد إلى فتنة طائفية أصبحت مكشوفة و كان يُحذّر منها الكاهن المرحوم و يعمل بإخلاص لخدمة جميع السوريين
Today, the regime has committed a new savage crime to add to his long related record, the murdering of father Bsilius Nassar, Priest of The Church of the Dame of the town of kafrbehem of the Governorate of Hama.
الشهيد الاب باسيليوس عمره 30 عاماً من بلدة كفربو استشهد في 25 كانون الثاني 2012 في حي الجراجمة في حماه و هو يحاول انقاذ رجل مصاب حيث تلقى طلق ناري بالرأس
Father Basilius died of a bullet in the head in AlJarajmeh neighbourhood in Hama city on january 25th while trying to save the life of an injured civilian.
. المرحوم من مواليد 1982، حائزعلى جائزة اللاهوت من جامعة البلمند في لبنان وهو كاهن وراهب يتوزّع عمله بين مدينة حماه وبلدته. سيصل جثمان الشهيد الأب باسيليوس إلى منزل ذويه لوداعه الأخير غداً في الساعة العشرة صباحاً، وعند الساعة الثانية عشرة ظهراً سينتقل جثمانه الى كنيسة مار الياس للروم الارثوذكس حيث ستقام صلاة الجنازة على روحه الطاهرة ويوارى الثرى في مقبرة الكهنة بدير مار جاورجيوس.
النظام يدّعي بأن العصابات المسلّحة قتلته علماً أنّه أستُشهد في نفس اليوم نائب رئيس الهلال الأحمر السوري عبد الرزاق جبيرو هو يسعف الجرحى وأستشهد الطفل حسن الأحمد مع والدته عندما سقطت على منزلهما قذيفة هاون غرب مدينة القصير في محافظة حمص. فهل العصابات المسلّحة هي من تقصف المنازل بالمدفعية؟ و هل يجوز أن تستمرّ السلطات السورية بالكذب على مواطنيها بعد عشرة أشهر و خمسة الاّف شهيد و عشرات اللاّف من المعتقلين؟
إنّ منظمة سوريون مسيحيون من أجل الديمقراطية تدين هذه الجريمة البشعة و تأمل من جميع أبناء شعبنا مسيحيين ومسلمين التمسّك بحقوق أبناء شعبنا السوري البطل وعدم الانجرار للنزاع الطائفي الذي يسعى له النظام
January 27th, 2012, 12:07 pm
mjabali said:
Thanks Syria Comment for the good articles.
I wish Dr. Landis gives Majedkhaldoun to write an article about what he thinks the Alawis beliefs to be followed by the Alawis specialist Dr. Revelon to write for us what he knows about the Alawis and how much they multiply??????? Revelon: it is a well known fact who is multiplying a lot.
But; before let us take a look at the relation between IQ and sectarianism:
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html
January 27th, 2012, 12:13 pm
norman said:
what is the name of this Friday .
January 27th, 2012, 12:14 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
It will be very interesting to see Russia objecting to, or even vetoing an AL resolution on Syria. It would be a historic day, and will represent Russia’s demise in Arabia and among the Arab peoples.
Russia’s sticking to this Alawi junta will cost her dearly.
.
January 27th, 2012, 12:18 pm
Revlon said:
لجان التنسيق المحلية في سوريا
لجان التنسيق المحلية
وصل عدد شهداء اليوم وأمس الموثقين إلى 135 شهيداً سقطوا برصاص قوات الأمن والجيش، بينهم 18 طفلاً وثمان سيدات.
أغلب الشهداء سقطوا برصاص الأمن وقذائف الجيش في حمص، كما سقط العشرات أيضاً في حماه وفي درعا.
27/01/2112
Local Coordination Committees
http://www.facebook.com/LCCSy
The number of documented martyrs who fell today and yesterday from being shot by security forces and army, has reached 135 martyrs, including 18 children and 8 women.
Most of the martyrs were killed by security forces’ gunfire and army shelling in Homs, dozens also fell in Hama and Daraa.
AlFatiha upon their souls,
May God bless their families with solace and empower them with fortitude.
January 27th, 2012, 12:20 pm
Revlon said:
Barzeh demonstration, Damascus
Friday of “The Right To Self Defence”
27/01/2012
January 27th, 2012, 12:26 pm
norman said:
Amir,
The same price that the US paid for siding with Israel, Russia can take that any time.
January 27th, 2012, 12:30 pm
Shami said:
Ahfad Yohana al Dimashqi wazir bani Umayya:
January 27th, 2012, 12:37 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Norman,
I thought about what you said #106.
Isn’t it ironic that every opinion poll and survey from Arabia, show that the Arabs don’t trust Amrica, or even hate Amrica along with all that Amrica represents, in the eyes of the Arabs.
Yet, whenever there’s a crisis or a situation in the ME, the Arabs run to mommy Amrica to help them fix the mess that they have created.
Amrica’s future in the ME is much brighter than Russia’s.
.
January 27th, 2012, 12:40 pm
Revlon said:
Shelling of the Minaret of Serjawi Mosque
Watch mark 1.30 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=-TgM0zmzzrk
Scores of Mosques have been shelled all over Syria in this uprising.
Not a single one resulted in killing either civilians or defectors in the destroyed minarets!
If this practice is not a sectarian atrocity!
Then What is it??
Why are Mosques being targetted for destruction at the command and to the jubilation of perpetrating jabali people?!!
January 27th, 2012, 12:42 pm
irritated said:
#108 Amir
“Amrica’s future in the ME is much brighter than Russia’s.”
Tell this to the thousands of widows and orphans in Iraq.. and the millions displaced, the people of Gaza, to the Lebanese.
The US is on their way out of the ME, it is only surviving in the remaining oily dictatorships dumping all their junk weapons for billions and ‘protecting’ them from the big bad wolf Iran.
Even they are turning to Asia…
January 27th, 2012, 1:10 pm
irritated said:
#83 Ghufran
I doubt Russia will fall again in the trap of the ‘innocent’ resolution that gives full power to the incoherent Arab League to deal with Syria. The plan the AL presented is only a draft full of loopholes.
The common sense requires that that plan be discussed, negotiated before being put on a vote in a resolution at UNSC.
No country, except if bought, pressured or with a special agenda will give a carte blanche to the AL on such flawed plan.
Let’s remember that the gulf countries are approached by the E.U to sustain the IMF with more money..
January 27th, 2012, 1:16 pm
zoo said:
Is the ‘friday demonstrations’ syndrome catching up in Egypt?
http://news.yahoo.com/egyptians-mark-1st-anniversary-friday-rage-102258842.html
Egyptians mark 1st anniversary of ‘Friday of Rage’
By AYA BATRAWY and SARAH EL DEEB | Associated Press
CAIRO (AP) — Large marches of protesters chanting antimilitary slogans streamed from mosques around Cairo to join tens of thousands massed in central Tahrir Square in a new uprising anniversary rally Friday, with many demanding an early transfer of power by the ruling military and the trial of generals for the killing of protesters.
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January 27th, 2012, 1:25 pm
Revlon said:
Deir B3albi, Homs, today
Friday of “The Right To Self Defence”
27/01/2012
January 27th, 2012, 1:31 pm
Alan said:
Amrica’s future in the ME is much brighter than Russia’s.
نائب أمريكي: (إٍسرائيل) دولة محتلة جعلت أمريكا مكروهة في العالم
دعا (المرشح المستقل السابق للرئاسة الأمريكية والسياسي الجمهوري) باتريك بيوكانين الحكومة الإٍسرائيلية؛ إلى إنهاء احتلالها للأراضي العربية بما فيها الفلسطينية، والقبول بعودة اللاجئين الفلسطينيين إلى ديارهم التي عاشوا فيها آلاف السنين.
وقال بيوكانين في مناظرة مع ناتان شيرانسكى (الوزير في الحكومة الإٍسرائيلية) بثتها شبكة (إن بى سي) الليلة الماضية، ضمن برنامجها المعروف (واجه الصحافة): ” إن (إٍسرائيل) جعلت أمريكا مكروهة في جزء من العالم وعليها أن تتوقف عن ممارساتها بهذا الصدد”.
وسال بيوكانين شيرانسكي ” لماذا لا ترحلون عن أراض هي فلسطينية، وماذا يفعل آلاف المستوطنين على الأرض الفلسطينية”، وقال: ” لابد لكم أن تتوقفوا عن احتلال البلدان الأخرى والتوقف عن سياسة التدخل” مضيفاً أن البريطانيين توقفوا في السابق عن فعل ذلك في فلسطين وخرجوا منها كما خرج الفرنسيون من الجزائر.
وأضاف عضو الحزب الجمهوري الأمريكي المحافظ: ” إن (إٍسرائيل) خاضت حروبا رئيسية في الشرق الأوسط، وهى أكثر الأطراف في المنطقة سعياً للحرب”.
ورد بيوكانين على ادعاءات شيرانسكي حيال ما يسميه بالديمقراطية بقوله: “إذا كنت تؤمن بالحرية والديمقراطية، فهل يمكن لكم أن تتركوا للشعب الفلسطيني في قطاع غزة أن يقرر مصير المستوطنين الإٍسرائيليين الموجودين هناك، وهل ترحب بعودة اللاجئين الفلسطينيين إلى ديارهم”.
وخاطب بيوكانين الوزير الإٍسرائيلي قائلاً: ” إن نابلس وبيت ولحم وكل المدن في الضفة الغربية هي مدن فلسطينية، وأنت تقول: “إنه يجب أن يتمكن الإٍسرائيليون من العيش بسلام مع الفلسطينيين في الضفة الغربية” وإذا كان كلامك صحيحاً، فلماذا لا يستطيع الفلسطينيون الذين عاشوا لآلاف السنين على الأرض التي تحيا عليها أنت الآن؛ العودة بسلام إلى وطنهم”.
وأضاف بيوكانين “إن سياسات التدخل في شؤون الدول الأخرى هو السبب في إيجاد المقاومة المسلحة.
بدوره كرر شيرانسكى الادعاءات الإسرائيلية التي استمرت بالدوران حول نفس الطروحات والادعاءات حول الديمقراطية وتمسك بردود اتسمت بالسذاجة والارتباك ومحاولة تغليب الإيديولوجيا على الواقع والمنطق.
ووصف مراقبون في واشنطن هذه المناظرة التي تم التحضير لها بإتقان بأنها “نادرة” نظراً للانتقادات الجدية (لإٍسرائيل) التي أطلقها بيوكانين، مشيرين إلى أنها جاءت في إطار اهتمام متصاعد من وسائل الإعلام الأمريكية بالوزير الإسرائيلي الذي امتدح كتابه الرئيس الأمريكي جورج بوش.
وقال: ” إنه يستوحى في ممارسته ما يسميه بنشر الحرية والديمقراطية في العالم من كتاب الوزير الإٍسرائيلي” !
January 27th, 2012, 1:41 pm
jad said:
دفاعاً عن نزيه أبو عفش
الخوف من الثورة ـ الخوف عليها
منذر بدر حلوم
ثمة من يخاف الثورة أو يخاف منها، فيقف ضدها أو يمتنع عن تأييدها. وثمة من يخاف على الثورة، فيجهد في تنقية المثال الثوري من شوائب الممارسة الثورية ودمويتها.
أن توصلك تساؤلاتك إلى إعلان اعتراضك على بعض الثورة، يعني أن تضع نفسك في قبضة أوليائها الذين لا يخالطهم شك. أو هكذا يريدون للعالم أن يراهم. فتخيلوا فظاعة من لا يرتاب في شيء، وتخيلوا الأفق الذي ينفتح عليه الولاء المطلق.. الولاء المطلق لأي شيء، خارج النقد والمساءلة والتصويب! «ليس وقته!» يقولون لك. فتجيبهم: «بل وقته، لأن العبرة في العملية الجارية نفسها.. في الفعل اليومي، لا في النتائج!».
يجد غير قليل من السوريين الذين أمضوا حياتهم في العمل على زعزعة النظام وفضح مقولاته وسياساته، حين لم تكن المواجهة المباشرة ممكنة.. يجدون في واقع الممارسة الثورية، وسلوك بعض الشخصيات التي تدّعي قيادة الثورة، ما يدعو إلى الانكفاء، في أقله، وإلى تبني مواقف ضد الثورة، في أشده. ومنهم من ينتهي إلى الإعلان الصريح عن أن الثورة لا تمثله، أو أنها ثورة عدمية لا تصنع أكثر من الموت واستبدال جلادين بجلادين مثلهم. فهل في الممارسة الثورية، على أرض سورية، ما يسوّغ هذه المخاوف والمواقف؟ ألا تؤدي ممارسات ثورية على الأرض يصعب تسويغها وتسويقها، حتى على خلفية وحشية النظام، إلى قطع المدد الشعبي المنقذ للثورة والضامن لنجاحها نحو صيغ أخرى مثيرة للقلق؟
سلمية مسلّحة
منذ إعلان تشكيلات مسلحة تخدم الثورة (لواء الضباط الأحرار، كتيبة خالد بن الوليد.. انتهاء بالجيش الحر) بات الحديث عن سلمية الثورة ليس فقط لغطاً لفظياً بل عسفاً ثورياً سياسياً وثقافياً من نمط خاص. فإما أن تقول بسلمية الثورة كائنة ما يكون التناقض المنطقي بين سلميتها واعتمادها على تشكيلات مسلحة، وكائنة ما تكون الممارسات على الأرض أو تُحسب على النظام، ما يعني الخيانة. وعقوبة الخائن معروفة. هنا يتكشّف بصورة واضحة إلغاءٌ واعٍ لكل رأي لا يُعجَب بالسلاح ولا يعجِب السلاح والقوى الداعمة له، القوى التي وضعت الثورة في سكته ورهنتها له، في مشاركة واضحة للنظام لعبته، وإدخال البلاد في نفق دام ومظلم ومفتوح على اقتتال أهلي وانقسام خطير يهدد وحدة البلاد.. وأما بعد إعلان (المجلس الوطني) تبنيه رسمياً للجيش الحر، الأمر الذي يعني تبني تمويله وتدريبه وعملياته العسكرية، فيفقد الحديث عن سلمية الثورة معناه. فهل تسوغ الممارسة نفسها مخاوف رجال ثقافة وفن مرهفين من نمط نزيه أبو عفش وصولا إلى رفضها.. أم أن في تساؤلي أيضاً خيانة للثورة؟ يبدو أن خيانة العقل، وقيم الثقافة الإنسانية مقبولة بل مطلوبة عند جهة ثورية تبيّض وجهها السياسي اليوم بالدم، بعد أن ساهمت في حرق الأفق السوري الديموقراطي في ثمانينيات القرن الماضي. أليس من واجب المثقفين الأخلاقي والثوري والوطني الاحتجاج على ذلك بل فضحه؟ ليس مقبولا في الثقافة وقيمها القول بغاية تبرر الوسيلة. لا قدسية للأهداف، بل لا قدسية لشيء في ثقافة نقّادة منفتحة. المقدسات والقدسية في الدين وليس في العلم والثقافة. فالهدف الأسمى هو الإنسان وحياته، ولا معنى لحياة تأتي بإلغاء الحياة إلا معنى العبث بأحلام البشر وآفاقهم الروحية والثقافية والمعيشية! إياك أن تطرح تساؤلك على الملأ لأن تلك الجهة وتيك الجماعة سرعان ما تسقطانك في شرك النظام. النظام، حاوية تتسع لكل القذارات، وهو ليس بعيداً عن هذه الصورة، لكن قبحه لا يجمل تلقائياً مناهضيه والثائرين عليه. الجهة ذاتها التي تسيطر اليوم على كثير من القول والفعل، لها تاريخ من الممارسات لا فضل فيها على ممارسات النظام الذي تدفع سوريا خيرة شبابها للخلاص منه. وما أسوأ ما يفعله النظام المتوحش حين يقتل روح التمرد، روح الإبداع في العلم والفن والحياة عموماً، بقتله شباب سوريا الثائرين!! من يُقتل اليوم هم أفضل أبناء سوريا، هم أفقها.
عمليات نوعية، متلفزة
يندر الأسبوع الذي لا يعلن فيه عن تبني التشكيلات الثورية المسلحة عمليات دموية نوعية (ضد حافلات مبيت عساكر عائدين إلى بيوتهم دون أن يتأكد أحد من مشاركتهم في أية عمليات قمع، ناهيك بالسؤال عن الحق في إعدامهم على الطرقات دون محاكمة! وضد سيارات مدنيين يستسهل البعض تشبيحهم، دون أن يوضح لنا كيف يمكن تمييز سيارة مدنيين على طريق عام من سواها فإذا بقتلاها شبيحة! وضد ثكنات جنود يخدمون الإلزامية، وضد مرافق عامة).. وكثير من هذه العمليات (النوعية) تتحقق فيه معاني المجزرة بأبشع صورها وأكثرها وحشية وهمجية، ناهيك بالغياب المطلق للعدالة في الممارسة الثورية القتل السلمي – أم أن الثورة لا تحاج إلى العدالة وغير معنية بها؟! وماذا عن اليوتيوب الذي يصور التحقيق الوحشي الذي قامت به «كتيبة الفاروق» مع أحد عناصر المخابرات الجوية، كما جاء في إعلانها المبتهج؟! هل وحشية هذا الجهاز تلغي وحشية كتيبة الفاروق المستعرضة بالصوت والحركة أم تخفف منها؟ وحشية النظام لا تمنح الإنسانية أو الشرعية لأي فعل وحشي يمارسه أعداء النظام. وإذا كان ذلك يعلن، فثمة ما هو أبشع منه ولا يعلن.. ومن مثاله إعدام جميع أفراد مفرزة الأمن العسكري بعد حصارهم ثلاثة أيام في جسر الشغور، وبعد أن نفدت ذخيرتهم، وبات بالإمكان القبض عليهم.. أم أننا يجب أن نصفق لإعدام القذافي بتلك الطريقة البشعة، من أجل إثبات نظافتنا الثورية. النظافة الثورية تُثبت بالحفاظ على قيم الثورة ومبادئها وأهدافها. فهل لخوف الخائفين مرتكز على الأرض، ولتردد المترددين، وللعنات اللاعنين، أم أننا يجب أن نشتمهم ونبارك القتل الثوري المقدس.. في مواجهة القتل الأسدي المدنس؟ من أين يأتي التدنيس والتقديس؟ القاتل قاتل.. بصرف النظر عن الخندق الذي يطلق منه الرصاص والمدية التي يستخدمها في الذبح، وبصرف النظر عن مستقبلٍ يدلنا بالساطور عليه، كي لا نخطئ الاتجاه. يحلو في مثل هذه الحالات لكثيرين أن يخطئوا الاتجاه.
شخصيات تحت السؤال
وإذا كان الناس عامة وكثير من السياسيين والمثقفين يختزلون النظام بشخصيات ورموز، فما الذي يمنعهم من رؤية الثورة وأفقها عبر رموزها أيضاً فينضم من ينضم إليها وينكفئ من ينكفئ؟ قبح النظام في أعين الشعب الثائر منه والساكت، يكمن في قبح رموزه، وفي تاريخ ممارسات شخصياته.. وليس صدفة أن يتم الحديث إلى اليوم عن إمكانية فوّتها بشّار الأسد لمنع قيام الثورة كان يمكن أن تتحقق لو تمت معاقبة عاطف نجيب ومرتكبين آخرين؟ فكما أن النظام يُكثَّف في رموز فإن المعارضة ينظر إلى أفقها السياسي وإلى وعودها بالديموقراطية والحرية والشفافية والعدالة والأمان من خلال رموزها. فهل أن بعض الشخصيات الفاعلة في السر وفي العلن لا يثير القلق والنفور؟ وهل أن ارتباطات الجماعة لا تثير الريبة؟ ولماذا على البشر أن يصفقوا هنا لمثال ثاروا ضده هناك؟ وإذا أمكن للناس العاديين أن يفعلوا أو يغفلوا عن ذلك فهل من الطبيعي انتظار التصفيق والإغفال من مثقفين عارفين؟
من واجب المثقفين والسياسيين أن يتلمسوا خطوط المستقبل الذي يرتسم الآن، وأن يقولوا كلمتهم قبل فوات الأوان. أم أننا يجب أن نصفّق من جديد لرواية تُؤكّدُ بقوة السلاح والصراخ. (نعم) للثورة، تعني (نعم) لحرية التعبير والتجاوز وتحطيم الأصنام ورفض صناعة أصنام جديدة.. وليس (نعم) لديموقراطية شكلية يفوز فيها أصحاب القوة والمال والإعلام.
(كاتب سوري)
http://www.assafir.com/WeeklyArticle.aspx?EditionId=2061&WeeklyChannelId=11538&WeeklyArticleId=87179&Author=%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B0%D8%B1+%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%88%D9%85
January 27th, 2012, 1:45 pm
Antoine said:
Anybody who denies the sectarian nature of the Syrian regime is daydreaming. It cannot be compared to the “Maronite” regime of Lebanon, firtsly it was not a Maronite regime, it was power-sharing between Maronite and Sunni elites to keep the working classes and peasants out of power. It is more comparable to the Iraqi baathist regime, only difference being the Alaiwite rulers of Syria try to pass themselves off as Sunnis ; while the Sunnis of Saddam nade no effort to hide their identity, rather it was the Shia loyalists who adopted Sunni culture, the reason for this discrepancy is clear, Sunni identity and culture has more legitimacy among Arabs than other sects, this is because of history.
Also Dr. Landis you are wrong in your judgement that it was Colonial rule that brought in minoritarian regimes. That is true only for Iraq, Bahrain and Lebanon, not for Syria. The only contribution of the French was to take the Alawites out from their dirt road villages and give them a uniform and a gun. They did not propel the Alawites to power, the Baath Party did, which was led by Sunnis like Amin al Hafez and Louay al Atassi.
January 27th, 2012, 2:11 pm
Antoine said:
Btw, Sunnis were always seen as the “natural leaders” of Iraq, in the same way, Maronites were always the “natural leaders” of Lebanon, the Alawites of Syria do not fit this bill.
January 27th, 2012, 2:17 pm
jna said:
98. jadsaid: Presidency of Arab League seeks to bury own experts’ report
Perhaps BRICS countries could send an observer team to the Arab League offices in Cairo to uncover what has happened to the AL Syrian observer report.
January 27th, 2012, 2:18 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
The Text the new UNSC draft resolution that was circulated today by Morocco. The UNSC will start discussing it today at 3:00 PM.
http://haytham-khoury3.blogspot.com/2012/01/27-1-2012.html
January 27th, 2012, 2:52 pm
Antoine said:
Khoury, any news about what Russia might do ?
January 27th, 2012, 3:12 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Haytham,
Do you have a link to this text #120 in English?
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January 27th, 2012, 3:14 pm
Juergen said:
Tara
I thought you might like this one:
سلسلة اجيال الحرية . انتاج حركة كلنا ابو موفق وترقبوا جديدنا
January 27th, 2012, 3:18 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Russia is getting more isolated,AL is criticising Russia, along with US and Europe.The threat of civil war is getting more,militarization of the revolution is a step away,in the past we know Afganstan,where rebels with shoulder held weapons were able to defeat Russia, .
Civil war is inevitable,who will win in such war?
While Syria will loose a lot in a civil war,the regime is to blame , civil war will mean arm supply from outside,people win in civil war, the majority will win, the Alawis will loose, they are minority, civil war means innilation .
Where is the wisdom?,where are those who has brain? we need them to tell the regime that Bashar has to go and the alawi rule must end, or, or,the alawis in Syria will be innihiliated.
The christians who are supporting the regime must understand this too, they used to be smart, they are making huge mistake by supporting Assad, This is a major period of our history,I know that Bashar is stupid,but the christian supposed to be smart, they will loose badly.they must change ,Syria will turn red,over two million will die, half will be alawis.
Those thugs on SC,they have a responsibilty to stop Bashar,otherwise they will find Syria destroyed,they have their families, they may need to go there, anyone is smart enough to help,or are they going to continue to be stubborn, Assad must go,or else.
God bless FSA
January 27th, 2012, 3:19 pm
Alan said:
Americans oppose war: Does govt care?
January 27th, 2012, 4:00 pm
irritated said:
Majedalkhaldoon #124
“Civil war is inevitable,who will win in such war?”
You have been advocating a ‘mini’ civil war for the last 5 months. Now you realize it is bad for Syria, صح النوم
January 27th, 2012, 4:07 pm
Ghat Al Bird said:
NORMAN..
There is no way that the Arab states will ever be able make the US their “sugar daddy” in the same way as the “chosen people” .
Just check this state by state US taxpayers money’s contribution.
http://www.aidtoisrael.org/section.php?id=323
January 27th, 2012, 4:20 pm
irritated said:
Unverified death tolls claimed by the London Observatory today (soldiers and civilians)
AP: Syria killings spike to 120 as UN eyes resolution
AFP: Children among 74 dead in 2 days of Syrian turmoil
AP: More than 50 killed in 2 days of turmoil in Syria
AP: Dozens killed in 2 days of Syrian turmoil
Reuters: Syria violence kills 37, U.N. Security Council to meet
January 27th, 2012, 4:22 pm
Alan said:
Gulf States to arm Syrian opposition? ( Video )
http://rt.com/news/arming-syria-rebels-saudi-913/
January 27th, 2012, 4:30 pm
son of Damascus said:
Majed,
The Assad regime is not an Allawi rule, the loyalties that they have is not based on sect/religion (and it is wrong to assume that they are). It is based on money and absolute power, and how much each individual can bank at the end of the day by working with this gang by robbing and killing Syrians. Whatever faith they might proclaim (which is a mixed bag of everything) comes third to the almighty dollar, and the intoxicating aroma of acting god like that comes with choosing who lives and who dies.
And for your information there are no winners in a civil war, we all lose when we kill each other. What we must accomplish is ways to safeguard our country from the clutches of evil (both from the regime, and ultra extremists that want nothing but blood) while we over throw this sorry excuse for a government. The right for self defence is paramount, but is not an excuse for murder.
Wether Christian, Alawi, Sunni, Shia, we are all as we say in Arabic Beny Adam at the end of the day.
January 27th, 2012, 4:40 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
irritated
No, I am not advocating, I am warning, it is funny how some minds are twisted, they need to understand english better,
January 27th, 2012, 4:59 pm
zoo said:
Syria’s crisis: It looks like civil war
Syrian rebel forces are buying arms and fighting closer to the capital
Jan 28th 2012
http://www.economist.com/node/21543538/print
THE breezy hilltop resort of Zabadani is usually occupied by rich Syrians in second homes and Gulf tourists enjoying the picturesque mountains on the Lebanese border. But for much of January the town of some 40,000 people has been a rebel enclave. After several days of fighting by daring but lightly armed opposition forces, the army, equipped with tanks and heavy weaponry, was forced to pull back on January 18th. Residents hailed their “liberated city” and hung pictures of the dead in a tree. They waved placards and shouted slogans ridiculing the regime. Civilians guarded checkpoints usually manned by the security forces.
Zabadani is not the first place in Syria to experience a brief taste of freedom over the past ten months. Last year Mr Assad’s forces temporarily lost control to the opposition in Hama, the country’s fourth-largest city. Rastan and Tel Kalakh, two small towns close to Homs, have at times barricaded themselves in. Parts of Homs, the third-largest city, and villages near Idleb have also enjoyed a measure of autonomy.
But Zabadani is much closer to Damascus, the capital, than any of them—about 25 miles (40km). The fight for control of the country is no longer taking place far from the centre of power. Just days after Zabadani was liberated, armed clashes erupted in Douma, a suburb six miles from Damascus. Army defectors seized control of the town for a few hours.
Reports of firefights are no longer rare in what was once a peaceful capital. Two large car bombs exploded in front of a security-services’ building on December 23rd. It was followed by another one in a residential area a fortnight later. Few Syrians now dare to drive on the country’s main artery, the highway from the capital north to Aleppo, a commercial hub, fearing ambushes on the road. Military buses and oil pipelines are often hit by explosions. Who is responsible is hard to know. “There is so much going on that it gives the feeling that everything is starting to unravel,” says a Western diplomat in Damascus.
A year ago Syria could call itself the safest country in the region. But since the start of the uprising in March, the regime has presided over rising violence. It appears readier than ever now to employ heavy weapons and kill indiscriminately.
The regions surrounding Idleb and Homs are the bloodiest. In the hills close to Kafer Oweid, a hamlet some 25 miles from Idleb, more than 100 civilians and defecting soldiers, as well as some regime men, were killed on December 19th and 20th. Tanks sent mortars through the walls of houses. Corpses of fleeing villagers littered the nearby orchards. Some of the dead had their hands tied behind their backs. Witnesses describe an imam bayoneted in the throat after pleading with attacking soldiers to stop the massacre.
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January 27th, 2012, 5:07 pm
irritated said:
Majedalkhalonon
Yes, you are warning now, while a few months ago you were saying that there should be one, a ‘mini civil war’. It is not my english which is poor , it is your memory
January 27th, 2012, 5:11 pm
Tara said:
A must read.
http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/01/24/collectively_failing_syrian_society
Collectively failing Syrian society
Posted By Peter Harling Tuesday, January 24, 2012 – 3:28 PM
……
Until now, the regime and a majority of its supporters, allies, critics, and foes appear to have been operating under the same assumption: that the deadly stalemate the crisis is locked in will endure a while longer, until the other side gives way. This could still be true, but within the current parameters, it is becoming increasingly improbable that the power structure will suddenly unravel, that it will succeed in regaining lost ground, or that its opponents will accommodate it in any way. If this impasse endures any longer, the struggle could quickly mutate into an open-ended civil war. Although the regime bears most of the responsibility for bringing the situation up to this point, the international community and exiled opposition have no excuse for moving it further along this terrifying path.
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January 27th, 2012, 5:16 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
Antoine#121.
Dear Antoine:
Russia is objecting one major point in the resolution:
– Calling on the president to delegate his powers to the VP.
January 27th, 2012, 5:31 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
Dear Amir
This is the link for the English text
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/01/27/190815.html
January 27th, 2012, 5:34 pm
ann said:
Russia NOT to support UN resolution calling for Assad to leave – 2012-01-28
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/28/c_131379097.htm
MOSCOW, Jan. 27 (Xinhua) — Russia will not support a UN Security Council resolution that calls for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s resignation, Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said Friday.
Gatilov told Interfax news agency that an early voting on such a new resolution as drafted by some Western and Arab countries was “doomed to failure.”
“All resolutions on the future political settlement in Syria should be adopted in a political process without forced preconditions. The demand for Assad’s resignation is one of such preconditions,” Gatilov said.
“We cannot support calls for Assad’s resignation from his post in any of the UN Security Council’s resolutions,” he added.
The minister also said the a UN resolution must urge all parties, not only the government, to stop violence and start political dialogues unconditionally.
January 27th, 2012, 5:34 pm
Antoine said:
Russia is being foolish, they will be left sucking their thumbs when Assad will be pushed out.
January 27th, 2012, 5:37 pm
bronco said:
134. Haytham Khoury
“- Calling on the president to delegate his powers to the VP”
This is exactly the point that the SNC has constantly insisted on. Without that item, the resolution is very close to what the Russian have been asked for months: A ceasefire and dialog without preconditions. Bashar was anyway in favor of a national government but the opposition has been obstinately refusing the dialog.
If the Russian are able to remove that article B7, the SNC would have fallen into a trap. They will be obliged to dialog with the regime even if, through a gimmick it is not exactly the same regime and if Bashar is only in the background and will step down in the next early elections planned included in the resolution.
Let see if the Russians will succeed in removing that crucial item.
Maybe the GCC promises to recognize the SNC as the ‘official opposition’ is a carrot so they accept the dialog.
January 27th, 2012, 5:54 pm
zoo said:
Bahrain in renewed turmoil triggers a warning to US citizens
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Bureau of Consular Affairs
Bahrain
January 23, 2012
The U.S. Department of State alerts U.S. citizens to the potential for unrest in Bahrain. This Travel Alert supersedes the Travel Alert dated November 18, 2011, and expires on April 19, 2012. It updates information about spontaneous and sometimes violent demonstrations.
..
Spontaneous and sometimes violent anti-government demonstrations occur in some neighborhoods, particularly at night and on weekends. These demonstrations have included blockades of major highways, trash can fires, and establishment of unofficial checkpoints. Participants have thrown rocks and Molotov cocktails and used various other homemade weapons. The Ministry of Interior maintains official checkpoints in some areas and routinely uses tear gas, stun grenades, and other crowd control measures against demonstrators. The violent clashes between security forces and demonstrators can make travel in and around Bahrain dangerous without advance warning
(..)
http://www.xfinion.com/TravelNotification/?p=12512&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=travel-alert-for-bahrain-posted-on-01232012
January 27th, 2012, 6:17 pm
irritated said:
#137 Antoine
I think HBJ is already sucking his thumb, as his resolution may end in the UN dustbin.
January 27th, 2012, 6:19 pm
ann said:
UN Security Council meets on Syria draft – 2012-01-28
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/28/c_131379112.htm
UNITED NATIONS, Jan. 27 (Xinhua) — The UN Security Council on Friday met behind closed doors to discuss a Western-Arab draft resolution on Syria with the 15-nation UN body still divided on the situation of the Middle East country.
Morocco, the only Arab country on the Security Council, presented the draft resolution to the council at the closed meeting, which kicked off at around 15:10 p.m. EDT here on Friday at a time when Russia reportedly said that the draft is unacceptable because it does not take Moscow’s position into account.
The draft was jointly drawn up by Arab states with Britain, France and Germany.
Britain and France are the two of the five permanent members of the Security Council. Morocco and Germany are among the 10 non- permanent members of the UN body.
Deputy Russian Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said in Moscow on Friday that the draft, which is circulated in the Security Council on Friday afternoon here, contains “no fundamental consideration for our position” and is missing “key aspects that are fundamental to us,” reports said.
Also on Friday, UN Secretary-Geneal Ban Ki-moon, who is in Davos, Switzerland, called on the Security Council to speak with one voice on Syria, and urged Damascus to listen to the aspirations of its people.
On Monday, Syria rejected a proposal by Arab League foreign ministers that President Bashar al-Assad of Syria hand over power to a deputy and set up new unity government, saying that the plan was part of a “conspiracy against Syria.”
The secretary-general of the Arab League, Nabil al-Arabi and Quatari Prime Minister Sheik Hamad bin Jassim Al-Thani are to head to New York on Saturday to seek support for an Arab plan on Syria, reports said.
January 27th, 2012, 6:31 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Dear Haytham,
Thank you for the link!
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January 27th, 2012, 6:36 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Just heard the pompous Syrian ambassador to the UN on EAJ. Same Baathist rhetoric, as if nothing has happened.
“Syria is not a colony ; they treat us as if we don’t exist ; we will not bow to the hegemony of the west ; Syria will not be Libya .. bla bla yada yada yada”.
.
January 27th, 2012, 6:41 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
AMIR,
You should learn to read Assad regime lips. What syrian ambassador meant was this:
“Assad Damascus is not a colony ; they treat Assad as if he doesn’t exist ; Corrupt criminals will not bow to the hegemony of the west ; Assad centres of power in Damascus will not be Libya .. bla bla yada yada yada”.
January 27th, 2012, 6:47 pm
Uzair8 said:
Death by a thousand cuts (or stings)
Sheikh Nazim was right when about a year ago he said that the people are like angry wasps and will repeatedly sting their oppressors. For sure the regime is dying a slow death. It is like a farmer surrounded by a swarm of bees/wasps attempting to save himself with a rifle. You’d think a rifle would give him over-whelming dominance in normal circumstances but with a swarm of bees he doesn’t have a chance. Futile. How many bees is he gonna kill before he is inevitably over-whelmed and collapses in a heap after a thousand stings?
As to the comment earlier suggesting a ceasefire and dialogue without preconditions. This would be a mistake to accept. It would be very difficult to resume protests etc if need be as momentum would be lost.
January 27th, 2012, 6:55 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
All free Syria lovers must bear in mind that at the end this regime will be blown up. Every day, every martyr, every innocent killed, every bullet shooted against the people, we are nearer to the end, because the no-return point has already been crossed.
Everyone must keep on fighting, by word or by action, by all possible means, until the regime falls. Maybe syrian people efforts are not enough to destroy the regime but one thing is sure, they are necessary because without syrian oppositors actions and martyrs Syria will never ever be liberated.
In this way future Syria owes everything to every martyr, men, women and children fallen on the way to liberation. They will be remembered in terrenal paradise that one day will be Damascus again.
And I hope they meet reward in their paradise if they were muslims and peace in heaven if they were christians.
January 27th, 2012, 7:00 pm
zoo said:
Syria: Watch the weather forecast
Published: 27 January, 2012, 16:50
http://rt.com/news/syria-opposition-weather-forecast-867/print/
Ankhar Kochneva, writer and sole foreign journalist permanently living in Syria, tells RT what is really up in the country, who funds the opposition, how international media fake images of unrest and why it is so important to watch weather forecasts.
RT: You have lived in Syria since October 2012. Media reports tell us about unrest in the country. How does the situation look from within?
AK: Life is absolutely normal in an absolute majority of communities across the country, although some news agencies deliberately picture the situation as its exact opposite. Israeli media outlets catering to Russian-speaking audience are among the most active in this regard. For example, in reporting on a terrorist incident it is sometimes enough to lie about its exact location to have the world convinced that there is no peace in Syria. I am referring to an explosion that went off on the outskirts of Damascus on January 6th this year. Although the explosive device actually went off under a bridge, news reports could make you think the whole of downtown Damascus was reduced to debris.
I hosted a group of tourists here for New Year. Some of them actually came for as long as 17 days. We rode across the country and did a lot of walking around Damascus. My guests saw a lot of smiling people in the streets. We sat in restaurants with some nice music, we went to a local street market, and they had a great time. They realized there is no war going on in Syria.
RT: There is no war, but there are explosions. So who is planting the bombs? And where is the opposition headquarters located?
AK: What makes Syria peculiar is that the so-called unpatriotic opposition here has no center, no leaders, no agenda and no specific premises. Nor do they have the numbers to create disturbances in multiple locations at a time. Most often there is unrest in a specific neighborhood, while other areas are calm.
The people behind the explosions are the same people who shoot at passing vehicles, plant IEDs targeting oil pipelines and attack random targets with grenade launchers. There have been six terrorist attacks targeting railway tracks. A female student dormitory in Homs was recently assaulted with grenade launchers. Many of its inhabitants are girls coming from rural communities and low-income families, because rich families rent apartments for their girls.
The perpetrators are the same people who kidnap civilians and demand ransom, and once they get the money, they return the abductee sliced into pieces. There have already been a hundred incidents of the kind.
Some of the culprits who have been arrested are regular criminals, but there are also people who come to Syria from Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya. There are also young men coming from Dagestan, who are often ignorant about the actual situation in Syria and are therefore easily misled. They are agitated with tales of injustice into doing things that really are unjust.
RT: Why would Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya disseminate all these falsified reports on Syria?
AK: These TV networks have been employed as propaganda tools serving to destroy Syria as a state. Some of those propaganda tactics are stunningly elaborate, and you can only tell a lie if you live in Syria and focus on details.
For instance, there has been a fantastic weather forecast for Syria broadcast on TV, where temperature indices actually stand for the time when protesters will assemble in a specific location to provoke unrest. If you are with the opposition, this broadcast tells you that there will be a rally in Homs tomorrow at 12pm, and specially instructed camera crews will be waiting for you and your associates to turn up to act as the angry masses. You spend five minutes yelling “Down with Assad” in a square and leave with hard cash in your pocket, and the world gets TV images of “a street revolution rocking Syria.”
I witnessed this technique in action once.
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January 27th, 2012, 7:00 pm
Tara said:
Morocco decided to withdraw her observers from Syria.
January 27th, 2012, 7:07 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
147. ZOO
If she has been living in Syria since October 2.012 she must be very experienced. She can read the future cause she is ahead of us 9 months.
This article written by russian Nadezhda Kevorkova, for RT Group TV Novosti is simply insulting. It´s cheap propaganda for the Assads. Russians have no credibility and at the end they will leave Assad alone as they did with Saddam, Gadafi and many others. Russians are going nowhere and losing all remaining simpathy in the arab world, inherited from the failed communism era. Russia is ruled by a mafia and a class of corrupt rich regime connected neanderthals.
January 27th, 2012, 7:09 pm
jna said:
At UN on Syria, Arab League Report Still Not In, Germany Says No Precondition
By Matthew Russell Lee
UNITED NATIONS, January 26, updated — After a morning in which several Western members of the Security Council said that the Arab League would brief the Council on Monday, when consultations broke up at 1:45 pm on Thursday, things were not so clear.
Russia’s Permanent Representative Vitaly Churkin stopped and told the Press that the Arab League monitoring report annex (which Inner City Press first reported on yesterday, here http://www.innercitypress.com/syria1annex012512.html ) has still not been received, “even in Arabic.”
Once it is, Churkin said, it must be translated into English — he said he did not demand Russian — and given to capitals. He mentioned a possible briefing on Tuesday. He told Inner City Press that “General Dabi,” the Sudanese chief of the monitoring mission, will be be available but that he requested, and no one objected, that if members request it Dabi come and brief at some later date.
Germany’s Deputy Permanent Representative Miguel Berger came out and said that having the annex “cannot be a precondition” for the briefing.
He said that Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi, and the Qatari minister Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani, now dubbed “HBJ” by some Council diplomats, would be able to tell the Council everything that is in the report.
(c) UN Photo
UN SG, PGA with HBJ: Arab League report not yet shown
Berger said Germany would have preferred Monday — which makes it sound like Tuesday at latest. Meanwhile some say HBJ arrives in New York on Saturday, so that could change. Watch this site.
Update of 4:10 pm — Inner City Press is reliably informed that the ArabLeague briefing of the Council is Tuesday 3pm, regardless of annex and translation (which will “probably” be done).
http://www.innercitypress.com/syria2annex012612.html
January 27th, 2012, 7:11 pm
ann said:
France Talks “Temporary” Step Down by Assad, Russia Says No, Syria Blames Qatar
http://www.innercitypress.com/syria1las012712.html
UNITED NATIONS, January 27 — After a new draft resolution “tracking the Arab League” was introduced Friday in the UN Security Council, a Monday meeting at the experts level was scheduled.
The Council’s president for January, Baso Sangqu of South Africa, told Inner City Press that these “expert consultations” will concern both Russia’s draft from December and the one introduced on Friday.
Inner City Press asked UK Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant, who said the Russian draft “has been overtaken,” but said that portions of Russia’s draft were in the new one. Told their draft was “overtaken,” two Russian diplomats on the margins of the stakeout laughed.
More formally, Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said that Russia will not accept any resolution calling for regime change in Syria. French Ambassador Gerard Araud told the press on Friday that only a “temporary” step down by Bashar al Assad is being asked for.
Pressed, he said to go and read the underlying Arab League documents, maybe he misread them, being tired.
South Africa’s Sangqu told Inner City Press, the Security Council didn’t agree to follow the African Union position on Libya — so, by implication, there’s no pressure or precedent to strictly follow the Arab League on Syria.
Inner City Press asked Araud and German Ambassador Peter Wittig to respond to this critique. Both said that each case is separate. Araud appeared to have forgotten that a draft Presidential Statement supporting the African Union plan on Libya was opposed and never adopted.
After Araud left, Syrian Ambassador Bashar Ja’afari said the French journalists in Homs was killed by “the armed groups,” citing the Arab League monitoring report, but said “you won’t hear that from the French ambassador.”
Earlier before the Council meeting broke up, Inner City Press asked around about support for the Arab League’s proposals. One well placed diplomat told Inner City Press, “Of course the Arab League is split. Algeria doesn’t support it, nor Iraq or of course Sudan.”
Inner City Press pointed out that Sudan did support the ouster of Gaddafi from Libya, although only because he supported Darfur’s rebels, particularly the Justice and Equality Movement.
The diplomat went on, “Egypt doesn’t support. But if Tunisia joins, it would be hard for Egypt not to, given ‘The Street.’ Really what these Arab states want is for Russia to engage. Russia’s been told by the opposition they could still play a post-Assad role, it’s not too late.”
Another opined that with Putin’s (re) election coming up, backing down is unlikely. Russia’s Churkin has several times contrasted the push on Syria with the US’ approach to Bahrain: telling the opposition they cannot use force.
The first diplomat replied, “they could have done that in April, there were press elements out there to send that message, but the BRICS blocked it all.” But did the Western powers show flexibility, as they did, shamefully to some, in essence embracing impunity for Yemen’s Ali Saleh?
“Saleh was smart,” a political coordinator opined. “He said yes, they played for time. And now he’s at a luxury hospital in New York.” If so, which one? Or as another source tells Inner City Press, could Saleh be heading to Morocco, like Dadis Camera did? Watch this site.
Footnote: as the last stakeout of the day, Syrian Ambassador Ja’afari took to the microphone to say, We will not be Libya or Iraq, we will not be Somalia, we will not be a failed state. He described Qatar jumping the gun on the Arab League monitoring report, and regime change “by January 22” having been predicted on “Doha-based Al Jazeera.”
Inner City Press asked him to say more about Qatar, given similar comments previously by Libyan diplomat Shalgam. Ja’afari didn’t shy away, saying that Qatar is “tiny… half occupied by American military bases” and uses “petrodollars” to increase its influence. One wag whispered: it’s natural gas.
Of his statement that the Arab League report blames the “armed groups” for the killing of the French journalist in Homs, Ja’afari said “you won’t hear that” not only from French Ambassador Araud but also not from “Ban Ki-moon,” the UN Secretary General on Friday in Davos.
One wanted to ask Ja’afari for his view of Ban Ki-moon accepting free private jet travel from Qatar, but then again, to mix a UN reform and transparency issue with such a stakeout might not be the right way to proceed.
Inner City Press asked Ja’afari if he will speak at the Security Council’s Tuesday afternoon meeting with Qatar’s minister called HBJ and the Arab League’s El-Arabi. “Yes I will speak,” Ja’afari said. Watch this site.
January 27th, 2012, 7:16 pm
Uzair8 said:
Oh man. Can you believe this from SANA: Lolol. {Monkey laughing faceplam}
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/1/9/9/7/a2172193-51-laughing%20monkey.gif?
President of French National Front: Western Media Broadcast False Allegations against Syria
Jan 27, 2012
PARIS, (SANA) – Near the Elysee Palace in the heart of Paris, the Honorary President of the French National Front Jean-Marie Le Pen stood, and in a loud voice, he announced rejection of the allegations broadcast by the western media against Syria, saying “the Syrian Leadership is doing its best to avoid the country the dangers of going into any form of civil war.”
Read more:
http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2012/01/27/396866.htm
January 27th, 2012, 7:18 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Those who defend the regime belong to one of these three kinds:
1) Ignorant people who think reform is owning a mobile and a laptop, think freedom consists on going to restaurants and watching plasma TVs while you are not being arrested or tortured, and thinks there is nothing beyond Assad repressive regime.
2) Fearfull people who has suffered the horrours of the regime and prefers living a grey and pasive existence to being exposed to the trauma once again.
3) Mafia members or friends and relatives of the power mafia. They are not an unsignificant number, just multiply all people connected to corruption by the average number of sons, uncles, brothers, daughters, sons of brothers and daughters, etc.
They are the more relevant and they will be ready to justify whatever the regime does to defend their privileges.
January 27th, 2012, 7:19 pm
Tara said:
KSA followed by the GCC will soon recognize the SNC as the legitimate authority in Syria.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/jan/27/syria-egypt-libya-middle-east-unrest-live-updates
• Saudi Arabia is poised to follow Libya’s example by recognising the Syrian National Council as the legitimate authority in Syria. The move, which is expected to be followed by other Gulf states, represents a further escalation in pressure from Riyadh against the Assad regime. Earlier this Saudi Arabia pulled out of the Arab League monitoring mission, followed soon after by the other Gulf states.
January 27th, 2012, 7:24 pm
jad said:
Mr. Manna proved to be the most honest and respected figure in the Syrian opposition on too many levels, he has principles not like those who are running for the power with no standards whatsoever:
السكرتير الأول للسفارة الأميركية في باريس لهيثم مناع : مفتاح حل الأزمة السورية في موسكو وليس عندنا
جيمس ميلر : فيلتمان أبلغ القيادة الروسية بأن واشنطن تدرك مصالح روسيا في سوريا ، وهي لن تسعى إلى تجاوزها ، لكن الممارسات غير الديمقراطية لـ”المجلس الوطني” تقلقنا
باريس ، الحقيقة ( خاص من : إلين / سوزان بورجوا + مكتب التحرير) : عقد السكرتير الأول في السفارة الأميركية بباريس ومسؤول الملف السوري فيها ، جيمس ميلر، اجتماعا نهار اليوم الجمعة مع مسؤول “هيئة التنسيق الوطني في المهجر” الدكتور هيثم مناع استغرق ثلاث ساعات ، بحسب مصدر في البرلمان الأوربي ساهمت في ترتيب هذا اللقاء . وقالت المصدر إن اللقاء “عقد في إحدى المقاهي بشارع مونبرناس بباريس ، وليس في مقر السفارة ، وكان بطلب من السيد ميلر الذي طلب مني المساعدة على ترتيب اللقاء بحكم كوني صديقة مشتركة للطرفين “. وقالت المصدر إن اللقاء تناول قضايا تتصل بنتائج الزيارة التي قام بها جيفري فيلتمان ، مساعد وزيرة الخارجية الأميركية لشؤون الشرق الأوسط، إلى موسكو مؤخرا ، وموقف “هيئة التنسيق الوطني” من الأزمة السورية ، ومضمون تقارير “أرسلتها للسفارة الأميركية في باريس جهات سورية معارضة في المجلس الوطني السوري اتهمت السيد مناع بأنه خان الثورة و التحق بركب النظام السوري”! وبحسب المصدر ، فإن المسؤول الأميركي أقر خلال الاجتماع بأن “حل الأزمة السورية بات في موسكو”، وأبلغ مناع بأن واشنطن “منفتحة في التعامل مع جميع فصائل المعارضة السورية على قدم المساواة، لكن من يرد شيئا محددا أو مطالب محددة من المعارضة في الخارج ، عليه التوجه إلى موسكو ، لأن مفتاح حل الأزمة أصبح هناك وليس في أي مكان آخر ، سواء في واشنطن أو الأمم المتحدة”. لكن المسؤول الأميركي ـ والكلام لم يزل للمصدر ـ عبر بالمقابل عن “قلق بلاده من الظواهر اللاديمقراطية التي تشوب سلوك المجلس الوطني ، سواء لجهة ما يتعلق بحياته الداخلية أو علاقته مع المجتمع السوري ومكوناته السياسية المختلفة”. وبشأن زيارة فيلتمان الأخيرة إلى موسكو ، قالت المصدر ” إن ميلر أبلغ مناع بأن فيلتمان أكد للقيادة الروسية أن واشنطن تدرك وتتفهم مصالح روسيا في سوريا ، وهي تتعامل مع جميع أطراف المعارضة السورية عل قدم المساواة ، ولن تسعى إلى أية خطوات من شأنها تجاوز هذه الحقائق”.
المصدر الأوربي كشفت أن مناع قارب موقفه الشخصي وموقف “هيئة التنسيق الوطني” من الأزمة السورية من خلال إيراده قصة الفلاح اللبناني الثائر طانيوس شاهين أواسط القرن التاسع عشر. فعندما قام شاهين بانتفاضته الفلاحية الشهيرة ضد الاقطاع ، التحق به عموم اللبنانيين من مختلف الطوائف ، فاكتسبت حركته طابعا وطنيا شاملا. إلا أن المداخلات الأجنبية ، التي باتت تعرف في كتب التاريخ باسم “حكم القناصل” الأجانب ، عملت على تحويل الحركة الفلاحية الشعبية إلى “حرب طائفية ” ابتداء من أيار / مايو العام 1860 وانتهاء بالعام 1861، وهو ما بات المؤرخون يصفونه عند الإشارة إليه بـ”ثورة 1858 ” و “أحداث 1861 الطائفية”. وقالت المصدر إن مناع أبلغ ميلر ” إننا لا نريد أن تذكر الانتفاضة السورية في المستقبل بهذه الطريقة ، فيقال الانتفاضة السورية في العام 2011 وأحداث سوريا الطائفية في العام 2012″ ، في إشارة منه إلى أن الأحداث في سوريا بدأت تأخذ بعدا طائفيا نتيجة المداخلات الخارجية ، العربي منها والأجنبي، ويمكن لها أن تزداد عمقا في هذا الاتجاه في مقبل الأيام.
على صعيد متصل ، قال مصدر مطلع في باريس لـ”الحقيقة” إن مناع نصح الأمين العام للجامعة العربية ، نبيل العربي ، يوم أمس بأن يتوجه مع وزير الخارجية القطري إلى موسكو قبل توجههما إلى واشنطن والأمم المتحدة لعرض الملف السوري ، لأن عدم القيام بهذه الخطوة سيدفع موسكو إلى التصلب والتشدد في مواقفها. لكن العربي والمسؤول القطري لم يأخذا بهذه النصيحة كما يبدو. وهو ما بانت نتائجه اليوم ، حيث صعّدت موسكو من موقفها حين أعلنت أنها ترفض أي مبادرة أو مشروع للحل في سوريا يطلب من رأس السلطة في سوريا التنحي. وكان ذلك “ردا على تجاهلها من قبل الأمين العام للجامعة العربية والمسؤول القطري ، ومصداقا لنصيحة مناع” ، ختم المصدر قوله.
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/6553/Default.aspx
January 27th, 2012, 7:27 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
It will take time until Damascus inhabitants begin to find a small space inside their minds to introduce the idea that the regime can fall. When they accept the regime can fall the following consequence will be the refusal of the syrian mafia regime. Because deep inside their hearts most of the syrians know that this regime is not fair and not moral, but the idea has been graved in their minds since they were born that Assad is the only possible president.
January 27th, 2012, 7:29 pm
jad said:
Israel is arming the terrorist militia in Syria:
باحث إسرائيلي: تل أبيب زودت “الجيش السوري الحر” يقواذف ” شيبون بي 300″ المضادة للدروع
المسلحون السوريون حصلوا على حوالي عشرين قاذفا من هذا النوع جرى تمريرها بالحقائب الديبلوماسية القطرية عن طريق لبنان وتركيا ، وعلى متن طائرة إغاثة إيطالية !؟
تل أبيب ، الحقيقة ( خاص من : ليا أبراموفيتش) :أكدت مصادر إسرائيلية أن إسرائيل زودت مسلحي “الجيش السوري الحر” بقواذف مضادة للدروع من طراز Shipon B-300 . وقال باحث إسرائيلي مشارك في المؤتمر السنوي لـ”مركز هرتزليا” للدراسات والأبحاث الأمنية ، الذي سيفتتح أعماله بعد غد الأحد بمشاركة أربعة باحثين من الأردن ومصر ولبنان وقطر، إن جهات إسرائيلية رسمية زودت مسلحي “الجيش” المذكور بصواريخ من هذا النوع ، وجرى شحنها على دفعات إلى المسلحين بواسطة الحقيبة الديبلوماسية القطرية عن طريق لبنان وتركيا ، وعلى متن طائرة إيطالية وصلت إلى مطار بيروت في 22 من الشهر الجاري وكانت تحمل مواد طبية للاجئين السوريين في شمال لبنان بناء على طلب سبق لبرهان غليون أن تقدم به إلى الحكومة الإيطالية خلال زيارته الأخيرة إلى روما. وأكد الباحث الإسرائيلي أن هذه الصواريخ ” استخدمت بالفعل ضد المدرعات السورية في منطقة حمص وفي منطقة جبل الزاوية خلال الأيام الأخيرة ، وقد حصلنا على صور لنتائج استخدام هذه الصواريخ “. وأشار الباحث إلى أن هذه الصواريخ ” تستخدم للمرة الثانية ضد المدرعات السورية ، إذ كان استخدامها الأول في حرب لبنان الأولى ( الغزو الإسرائيلي للبنان) العام 1982 ، وكانت المفاجأة الإسرائيلية لدبابات T-72 السورية خلال الحرب المذكورة ، حيث دمرت هذه الصواريخ حوالي 12 دبابة سورية”. وكشف الباحث أن “ما بين 15 و 20 قاذفا من هذا النوع أصبحت فعلا بين أيدي الثوار السوريين في أكثر من منطقة سورية ، وبعضها مزود بمناظير تعمل بالأشعة تحت الحمراء للاستخدام الليلي”.
وقال الباحث إن المواصفات الفنية للقاذف ، الذي أنتج من قبل الصناعات العسكرية الإسرائيلية نهاية السبعينيات الماضية ، تسمح بنقله وتهريبه واستخدامه بسهولة . فوزنه لا يتجاوز 8 كغ مع المقذوف ، بينما لا يتجاوز طوله 140 سم . وهو مناسب جدا للاستخدام في المناطق السكنية والمأهولة ، لاسيما الشوارع ، إذ إن مداه الأقصى لا يتجاوز 400 متر. كما أنه مناسب لاستهداف التحصينات والأبنية. وهذا أكثر ما يحتاجه مقاتلو “الجيش السوري الحر” في الوقت الراهن، على حد تعيره.
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/6552/Default.aspx
January 27th, 2012, 7:30 pm
ann said:
‘Russia won’t support US game in Syria’ – Sat Jan 28, 2012
“Russia [would] never make such a mistake in Syria, never,” Sergey Kurginyan in an exclusive interview on Friday, adding that Moscow is opposed to the Salafists taking power in Damascus.
He went on to say that Moscow would never support “America’s game in Syria.”
Kurginyan added that Washington is also involved in many plots against Russia, including one to drive Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin off the country’s political stage.
Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in favor of President Bashar al-Assad’s government.
Hundreds of people, including many members of the Syrian security forces, have been killed during the unrest.
The Syrian government says outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorists are the driving factor behind the turmoil and deadly violence.
Damascus also says that the chaos is being orchestrated from outside the country and that the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.
January 27th, 2012, 7:32 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Son of Damascus
when you say no one win in a civil war,you have to explain it, yes we loose two million people and yes this is great loss, but at the end one side will defeat the other side, and new system will emerge.
loosing people is great loss,but creating a democratic free Syria is more win,it will endure for a long time.
it is a fight between Evil(Bashar) and Good,(Syrian people) there is no compromise between Evil and Good, Good always has to win, and Evil has to be defeated,as always happen.
The syrian people are determined to make a change,and they should know the price is high, and Syrians are willing to pay it.
If you have a dacaying building you must turn it down and build new one,much better building.
Tyrany is no match to freedom and dignity, freedom is worth dying for,what we leave to the next generaion,freedom and wisdom ,dignity and pride.this is history,a lesson to learn from.
January 27th, 2012, 7:36 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
157 JAD
It is difficult not to imagine Israel offering second-hand arms to Bashar in order to be kept in power. So, please do not come with this pulp fiction histories about Israel sending arms to your ¨salafis armed gangs¨.
January 27th, 2012, 7:37 pm
Tara said:
It seems that the US is not going against Bashar in full force. I believe the the KSA, Qatar, and the SNC should focus on the US instead of Russia.
January 27th, 2012, 7:38 pm
ann said:
159. majedkhaldoun said:
it is a fight between Evil(Bashar) and Good,(Syrian people) there is no compromise between Evil and Good, Good always has to win, and Evil has to be defeated,as always happen.
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is israel good or evil?
January 27th, 2012, 7:45 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Majed,
Because pitting one Syrian against his fellow Syrian will result in Syrian blood. Why should we stoop to the level of barbarians to defeat them, and can you honestly tell me who won in Lebanon after 30 years of civil war, the Lebanese ended up with little fiefdoms based on sect under the disguise of democracy.
You see to me every Syrian is sacred, and should not die unjustly. Yes, the regime has and continues to be nothing but thuggish, but that does not equate for the opposition to take “the ends justify the means” tactics. And by the way the scars of civil war don’t heal as soon as the last bullet is fired, they take generations if not centuries to get over it.
Our Children and grand children will inherit nothing but hate and bigotry from civil war, I don’t wish that upon them.
January 27th, 2012, 7:49 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Everyday 1.800 syrians celebrate their 23rd anniversary. A country which average age is 23 years, every day sees 1.800 young globally open minded syrians enter a new age where repression and ruthless is more and more useless. People who needs jobs, who wants to marry or rent a flat don´t care about Baath ideology or Anti-Israel fake and failed strategy. The syrian regime is over. No way back.
January 27th, 2012, 7:55 pm
jad said:
The violence cycle of hatred doesn’t know any limit when it starts, in the news they write about a barbaric crime by nonhuman criminal sectarian thugs in the name of ‘HATE’, a massacre happened in Homs, 14 family members including 8 children were murdered out of sectarian retaliation, how can any human regardless of his political or religious background commit such a horrific crime against defenseless scared people, against KIDS for god sake, why people need to pay the ultimate price for a bloody struggle on behalf of someone else, in a conflict forced on them by both sides, that is beyond my understanding.
I want to see all those criminals who are murdering other Syrians in the name of religious and politics to pay the most heavy price for every barbaric crime they commit and for the misery they are forcing other Syrians to be under daily.
عشرات القتلى في سوريا… والدابي يؤكّد «تصاعد العنف»
أكدت بعثة المراقبين العرب، أمس، تصاعد وتيرة العنف في سوريا «بشكل كبير»، في وقت سقط فيه عشرات القتلى والجرحى، بينهم 40 مدنياً. وفي تنامٍ لظاهرة خطف الأجانب، ارتفع عدد الإيرانيين المختطفين في سوريا إلى 18، بعد إعلان اختطاف 11 أمس. وفي ساعة متأخرة من ليل أمس، انعقدت جلسة مجلس الأمن التشاورية بشأن سوريا لإجراء مشاورات تتناول مشروع القرار الجديد الذي أعدته دول أوروبية وعربية، فيما أكدت روسيا أنها ستحبط أي محاولة في مجلس الأمن لدعوة الرئيس السوري إلى التنحي، وحذرت من أنها لن تسمح بإمرار أي قرار في مجلس الأمن يجيز التدخل العسكري، وقالت أيضاً إنها لن تؤيد بأثر رجعي عقوبات غربية وعربية فرضت بالفعل على سوريا
عشية وصول الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي، ورئيس الوزراء القطري حمد بن جاسم بن جبر آل ثاني إلى الأمم المتحدة اليوم لبحث الملف السوري، قدّم الأوروبيون ودول عربية إلى مجلس الأمن مساء أمس مشروع قرار جديد بشأن سوريا، يستند إلى خطة التسوية التي أعدتها الجامعة العربية، وتطلب خصوصاً تنحي الرئيس بشار الأسد.
وأوضح المندوب الفرنسي جيرار ارو، قائلاً: «لقد قدمنا نصاً يستند إلى مطالب الجامعة العربية». وأضاف «نريد فقط تحويل مطالب الجامعة العربية الى مطالب لمجلس الأمن.. من أجل إرسال بعثة مراقبة، وكذلك في ما يتعلق بالحل السياسي».
اما مندوب روسيا فيتالي تشوركين، فقد عبّر عن «خيبة أمل كبيرة» تجاه مشروع القرار. وقال دبلوماسيون حضروا الاجتماع لوكالة «رويترز»، إن تشوركين أبلغ المجلس بأنه يختلف مع الجامعة العربية لمحاولتها «فرض حل خارجي» على الصراع في سوريا كما رفض فكرة فرض حظر للسلاح واستخدام القوة.
والنص الجديد الذي أعدته باريس ولندن وبرلين مع عدد من الدول العربية، وطرحه المغرب رسمياً على طاولة مجلس الأمن، لا يزال بحاجة الى أيام من المباحثات.
وينص مشروع القرار على أن المجلس «يدعم بقوة» خطة وضعتها الجامعة العربية نهاية الأسبوع الماضي، تتضمن بنداً يتعلق بنقل صلاحيات الى نائب الرئيس السوري فاروق الشرع، تمهيداً لتنظيم انتخابات جديدة.
وكان نائب وزير الخارجية الروسي، غينادي غاتيلوف، كرّر موقف موسكو بعدم نيتها دعم أي مشروع قرار في مجلس الأمن يدعو الأسد إلى التنحي. وحذّر من الضغط في اتجاه طرح مشروع القرار للتصويت قريباً. وقال: «سيكون ذلك محكوماً عليه بالفشل؛ لأننا عبّرنا عن رأينا بوضوح كما فعل شركاؤنا الصينيون».
في هذا السياق، دعا المجلس الوطني السوري، إلى «التحرك الفوري والجاد على مستوى مجلس الأمن لإصدار قرار دولي يدين جرائم النظام». وفي خطوة ستحمل دلالات كبيرة إذا ما تحققت، نقلت صحيفة «الرأي» الكويتية عن أحمد رمضان، العضو في المكتب التنفيذي للمجلس، أن وزير الخارجية السعودي الأمير سعود الفيصل، أبلغ وفد المجلس الذي التقاه في القاهرة الأسبوع الماضي، «أن المملكة ستعترف بالمجلس الوطني السوري ممثلاً رسمياً للشعب السوري».
في هذا الوقت، تجددت أعمال العنف في حمص أمس بعد ظهور تقارير عن وقوع مذبحة طائفية. وقال نشطاء وسكان إن «رجال ميليشيا علوية قتلوا 14 من أفراد أسرة سُنية»، أول من أمس. وأضافوا أن «ثمانية أطفال تراوح أعمارهم بين ثمانية أشهر وتسع سنوات كانوا بين أفراد الأسرة التي قتلت في مبنى بحي كرم الزيتون المختلط في المدينة».
وفي ردّ فعل على الحادثة، اقتحمت مجموعة من المعارضين السوريين، مبنى سفارة بلادهم في القاهرة. وحطّموا محتويات الغرف والسيارات الموجودة في مرأب المبنى.
وقتل العشرات في سوريا، أمس، بينهم ما لا يقل عن أربعين مدنياً، بحسب لجان التنسيق المحلية. وقال المرصد السوري لحقوق الإنسان إن 12 من القتلى سقطوا في بلدة نوى في محافظة درعا. وأضاف أن قوات الأمن «عمدت إلى استخدام الرصاص الحي لتفريق المتظاهرين»، الذين خرجوا في عدة مدن سورية تلبية لدعوة أطلقها ناشطون للتظاهر في «جمعة الدفاع عن النفس».
كذلك تصاعدت وتيرة الهجمات التي تستهدف قوات الأمن، حيث شهدت سوريا، أمس، عدة تفجيرات بعبوات ناسفة نفذتها مجموعات مسلّحة في مناطق متفرقة.
وقال مصدر أمني سوري إن انتحارياً فجّر سيارته المفخخة بحاجز لقوات حفظ النظام في مدينة بنّش في محافظ إدلب (شمال غرب)، ما أدى إلى مقتله وإصابة 4 عناصر من قوات حفظ النظام بجروح متفاوتة، بينهم مساعد أول. وأشار المصدر إلى «استشهاد طفل وإصابة 10 مدنيين آخرين بانفجار عبوة ناسفة في حيّ القاعة في منطقة الميدان في دمشق»، فيما أصيب عدد من المدنيين في قطنا بريف دمشق، بانفجار عبوتين ناسفتين. وأفاد بمقتل شخصين وإصابة عدد آخر جرّاء اشتباك مسلّح بين أفراد عشيرة العساسنة في حي المرجة في حلب. وقال إن 3 مدنيين و3 من عناصر حفظ النظام أصيبوا بانفجار عبوة ناسفة زرعتها «مجموعة إرهابية مسلحة» في شارع بغداد بمدينة البوكمال في دير الزور. وأشار المصدر الأمني إلى «استشهاد عنصر من قوات حفظ النظام بنيران مجموعة مسلحة أطلقت النار عليه بالقرب من المركز الثقافي في حي الميدان في حمص». وقال مصدر محلي في مدينة حمص إن «4 مدنيين قتلوا وأصيب أكثر من 20 بجروح، ليل أمس، بقذائف أطلقتها مجموعات مسلحة على بعض أحياء المدينة. وقصفت بنحو مكثف البساتين المحيطة بالبلدة وطاولت القذائف بعض منازل البلدة».
وتأكيداً لتزايد وتيرة العنف، أعلن رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب في سوريا محمد الدابي أن معدلات العنف في سوريا «تصاعدت بنحو كبير» خلال الأيام الثلاثة الأخيرة.
وفي تطور لافت، ارتفعت أمس حصيلة المختطفين الإيرانيين في سوريا إلى 18، بعدما أعلن المتحدث باسم الخارجية الإيرانية رامين مهمانبرست أن مجموعة مجهولة خطفت أحد عشر من الحجاج الإيرانيين على طريق دمشق. كذلك خطف خمسة مهندسين في 20 كانون الأول في منطقة حمص. وأفادت وكالة الأنباء الرسمية الإيرانية عن خطف مهندسين آخرين توجها في 21 كانون الأول إلى المكان في محاولة للعثور على زملائهما. وأوضحت الوكالة أن المهندسين كانوا يعملون في مشروع بناء محطة كهرباء قرب حمص. وبعد تبني منظمة سورية تطلق على نفسها اسم «حركة مناهضة المد الشيعي في سوريا» أعمال الخطف في حمص، أعلنت كتيبة الفاروق التابعة لـ«الجيش السوري الحر»، في بيان، أنها تحتجز الإيرانيين السبعة، وقالت إنها ستفرج عن اثنين منهم بشرط إقرار المرشد الأعلى للثورة الإسلامية علي خامنئي بوجود عناصر عسكريين إيرانيين في سوريا وسحبهم مباشرة من البلاد. بحسب ما جاء في البيان.
(الأخبار، سانا، رويترز، يو بي آي، أ ف ب)
http://al-akhbar.com/node/33845
January 27th, 2012, 7:57 pm
ann said:
163. Son of Damascus
This is not Majed you are responding to. This is “aboud” (a non Syrian) posting his hate under Majed user ID
(Moderator note: Aboud does not post under Majed’s user ID)
January 27th, 2012, 7:58 pm
Ghufran said:
The US and EU have announced new sanctions in the hope of persuading Iran to abandon its alleged nuclear weapons programme, though how effective these will be is questionable. China, India, Russia, Turkey, Japan, and South Korea have already refused to go along with the new measures. Iran also has the means to evade the sanctions – through its proximity to Iraq.
January 27th, 2012, 8:03 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
JAD
¨The violence cycle of hatred doesn’t know any limit when it starts.¨
Absolute right. I agree with this sentence. Assad has been able to rule the country through absolute dictatorship avoiding open violence but now he has failed. People has said ¨enough¨. So he must respond for its failures and leave. We can consider that there was a kind of hidden agreement between the people and the dictator to let him rule, but since he has failed he must renounce and let the legal system work by celebrating elections DEMOCRATICALLY. This is the only way to stop violence.
January 27th, 2012, 8:05 pm
jad said:
Majedkhaldoun
“yes we loose two million people and yes this is great loss, but at the end one side will defeat the other side, and new system will emerge.”
You are SICK SICK SICK, your violence, hatred and crime advocating messages are disgusting.
Sandro
Lying about the existence of Salafi/Qaeda fighters and the Israeli agents multiplying in your country Lebanon won’t help your cause that much, they will get you sooner or later so you better watch your back instead of lying to yourself.
January 27th, 2012, 8:09 pm
Tara said:
102 massacred by the Syrian regime today. Body trails are seen on the ground again. Footage of stack of children killed in Homs massacre is heart wrenching. Al-Moualem stated that the regime is going with the “security solution” until the end. Moualem should face the same fate that Bashar should face, Qaddafi-style. The world powers are discussing, re-discussing, and then re-discussing some more while the Syrians are being slaughtered. I would vote for next Friday to be called “Russia is the enemy of the Syrian people”.
Dabi asked Bashar today in a press release to stop the violence.
January 27th, 2012, 8:16 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Son of Damascus
You brought Lebanon example, In Lebanon ,the civil war ended with compromise ,because of outsider, this compromise meant that the problem was not resolved fully, and that means that the next generation will have to fight or find other way to solve the problems.in other word they build the foundation for another civil war the next generation to pay for,postponing the solution.
You implied that I believe ,The end justify the means, this is not true, first the statement has never been corrected, it should say the Good ends justify the means that is forced on us, by that the means are the only way is left for us.you see there is huge difference,the war is an evil is forced on us.Surgery, by cutting and blood loss that comes with it,is necessary to heal a person from bad disease.
It is not hatred that I encourage it is healing that I call for, when the scar is left after that it is minor, and most are willing to take to get rid of the disease.
Ann
No I am not Aboud, I am Majed.
January 27th, 2012, 8:26 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
Dear Amir
#142.
You are welcome.
January 27th, 2012, 8:32 pm
Ghufran said:
القدس العربي
سنخسر سورية مثلما خسرنا العراق، ومثلما نخسر ليبيا حاليا، حيث يمكن ان تكون معظم الدول العربية في الايام المقبلة ‘دولا فاشلة’ تماما، تسودها الفوضى، فوضى السلاح، فوضى الطوائف والمذاهب، وفوضى التشظي والتفتيت الجغرافي.
تبادل اللوم بالمسؤولية، والانشغال به عن رؤية هذا المستقبل الكارثي، هو هروب من المسؤولية، وتملص من تبعاتها، بل تواطؤ مع هذا المخطط الاجرامي الذي يريد تمزيقنا كأمة، وكأبناء عقيدة واحدة، وتقديم الاحقاد والنزعات الثأرية على العقل والتبصر.
نحن امة بلا حكماء، نقولها بكل مرارة وأسف، واذا كان هناك حكماء فلا مكانة او احترام لهم، وان وجدوا فعلا، وارادوا ان يقولوا كلمة حق، فالاتهامات بالتخوين والعمالة، والانحياز لهذا الطرف او ذاك جاهزة، وسيوفها مشحوذة
January 27th, 2012, 8:35 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Jad
When you get appendicitis, and the surgeon tells you, you need an operation,which has major risk, please tell your doctor,
“You are SICK SICK SICK, your violence, hatred and crime advocating messages are disgusting.”
January 27th, 2012, 8:40 pm
Ghufran said:
أدونيس
دمشق..
معالم القلق حول مستقبل العالم العربي وعمقه السوري، تراكمت عند المفكر السوري أدونيس، وازدادت حدّتها، والمؤشر الأخطر الذي يؤرقه هو تصاعد التيار الإسلامي المتطرف، ولا سيما في مصر وتونس والخوف الأكبر يبقى على سوريا لدى ابنها أدونيس.
صحيفة “الرأي” أجرت حواراً مطولاً مع أدونيس، الذي أكد في توصيف مايمارسه البعض تحت شعار الاحتجاج أن “العنف المادي، يُخرج الإنسان من إنسانيته ويأخذه إلى التوحّش، وهو عامل انحطاط لا عامل نهوض. عامل تغيُّر نحو الأسوأ”.
وردا على سؤال حول إذا ماكان العالم العربي يشهد ثورات في نظره قال أدونيس: “إن ما جرى ويجري، وخصوصاً ما يرتبط بالشبان والشابات، يظلّ في إطار التمرّد والاحتجاج، في حين أن الثورة عملٌ جذريٌ شاملٌ مازلنا بعيدون عنها وبتحقيقها نبني مجتمعات عربية جديدة حقاً، وديمقراطية حقاً، ليس كما يحدث الآن”.
وحول التيارات الإسلامية المتطرفة قال، “هذه تيارات كانت كامنة. وما قام به الشبان والشابات العرب، وفر فُرصة لظهورها، وهي الآن تتواطأ مع القوى الرجعية العربية، والأجنبية الكولونيالية للسيطرة والهيمنة، وخصوصاً أنها الأكثر عدداً والأكثر تنظيماً، غير أن ذلك لا يعطيها أيّ مشروعية لبناء المستقبل.
وانتقد أدونيس طريقة تفكير هذه التيارات بالقول “لا يُبنى المستقبل بالماضي، مهما كان هذا الماضي حاضراً وفعّالاً، الشعوب الحيّة تبني مُستقبلها بتجاربها الواقعية وإبداعاتها، وليس بذكرياتها وأحوالها الماضية”.
وحول صعود التيارات الإسلامية وأسبابه قال: “أنا لا أفسّره، كما هو شائع، بـ “فشل” الحركات اليسارية”
ورأى أدونيس أن الفعل الثقافي هو الفعل الذي يجب أن يكون أساسا لأي حركة تهدف لتطوير المجتمع العربي وقال: “أنا أقصد بـ”الثقافي” هنا، المعنى الثقافي الواسع الذي يتضمّن التربية، والاجتماع والسياسة، والاقتصاد، والعلاقة مع الآخر، إضافة إلى الآداب والفنون والعلوم والقوانين”.
وحول المجتمع السوري وتطوره قال أدونيس: “المجتمع السوري يحتاج إلى تحولات على مستوى البنية السياسية والاجتماعية ويجب أن تكون التغيرات الاجتماعية سباقة لأنها تشكل القاعدة”.
وعن ما تشهده سوريا من احداث قال: “في سوريا لا نشهد ثورة بل احتجاج محدود، في عدد المحتجين، وفي عدد الأمكنة التي يتم فيها هذا الاحتجاج. الثورة لا تكون إلاّ بتحرك الكتلة الكثيفة من جسم الشعب، وبخاصة في المدن الكبرى. وهذا التحرك لم يحدث لأن البداية كانت خطأ، كان للحراك نبرة طائفيّة مذهبيّة، تتحرك داخل “صوت” غير سوري، لكي لا أقول “أجنبي””.
وحول الأطراف التي تدعي أنها تمثل المعارضة السورية ممثلة بـ”هيئة التنسيق” و”مجلس اسطنبول” قال أدونيس: نحن نشاهد “صراع على المواقع”، وهذا مَقْتَلُ الحراك الشعبي. ثم ما معنى “ثورة” في أي بلد عربي، لا في سوريا وحدها، إذا لم تكن قائمة أساسياً على الفصل بين الدين والدولة؟ وما تكون جدواها خصوصاً إذا كانت تَسْتَعينُ بالحِراب الأميركية أو الأطلسية؟!!
وحول ترسيخ الديمقراطية، سياسياً واجتماعياً وثقافياً، في المجتمع السوري قال: “لا ديمقراطية، ولا حقوق إنسان وبخاصة حقوق المرأة، ولا حريات، ولا دولة قانون في سوريا أو غيرها من البلدان العربية، دون تحقيق الفصل الكامل بين ما هو ديني من جهة، وما هو سياسي ثقافي اجتماعي من جهة ثانية، على جميع المستويات وفي مختلف الميادين”.
وأكد المفكر السوري أن المدعو برهان غليون جاء إلى رئاسة مجلسه بفضل الإسلاميين، وبإرادتهم، ورأى أن الإخوان المسلمون في سوريا يعتمدون على التمويه. والـ”غش” الثقافي عندما يتشدقون بالمدنية وقال: “يجب استخدام كلمة علمانية إذا كان القصد “المدنية” حقّاً”.
January 27th, 2012, 8:54 pm
ann said:
As Nations Line Up Against Syrian Government, Russia Sides Firmly With Assad – January 27, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/28/world/europe/russia-sides-firmly-with-assad-government-in-syria.html
MOSCOW — There are not many world capitals today where President Bashar al-Assad of Syria can count on unstinting support. But diplomats who passed through Moscow this week hoping to secure Russia’s help in forcing him from power were met with cold refusal.
Russia remains a staunch defender, providing Damascus with a political lifeline as well as arms and ammunition.
Moscow entrenched itself as Mr. Assad’s political bulwark on Friday, declaring that it would, with China, oppose a Security Council resolution calling on Mr. Assad to step down. A deputy foreign minister, Gennadi Gatilov, told the Interfax news agency that the resolution was “doomed to failure” unless the demand for Mr. Assad’s ouster was dropped and a call for opposition forces to renounce violence was included.
Another deputy foreign minister, Sergei A. Ryabkov, rejected Western criticism of continuing arms shipments to Mr. Assad’s government, including a freshly inked $550 million contract for fighter planes.
“I do not understand why we should justify ourselves for that, constantly blush, turn pale, be damp with sweat,” Mr. Ryabkov told the radio station Ekho Moskvy on Thursday. “We are acting within our rights.”
Russian political support has proven essential to the Assad government, said Peter Harling, a Syria specialist with the International Crisis Group. Statements of support from Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov are featured continuously by Syrian state news agencies, he said, offering reassurance that Mr. Assad’s government still has mighty allies.
“It is central to the regime’s narrative and key to the cohesiveness of the regime’s ranks,” Mr. Harling said. “They believe that the international community is divided. So Russians are providing cover for the regime to push forward with their approach. There is a strong belief that all doors are not closed.”
Russia has staked out this position for a variety of reasons that have little to do with the specifics of Syria’s political crisis, chief among them weapon exports, domestic politics and resentment over the Libyan campaign. It reflects a shift that has taken place as Vladimir V. Putin prepares to return to the presidency, deeply distrustful of the West’s intentions both in Russia and in the Middle East. He has accused the United States of orchestrating uprisings in both regions.
“Theoretically, the Western bloc has a few more months of the Medvedev presidency,” said Yevgeny Y. Satanovsky, president of the Institute of the Middle East in Moscow. “After that, Putin is a bigger realist than Medvedev, he has more experience, he is much more pragmatic. I don’t think he will have these ideas from the Medvedev side that opened the gate to this campaign in Libya.”
Libya is a particular grievance. Mr. Putin seethed over the aftermath of the United Nations resolution establishing what was supposed to be a no-fly zone in Libya, which China and Russia last March agreed not to veto. Many in the government contend that President Dmitri A. Medvedev was deceived by Western allies who then used the resolution to justify airstrikes to drive Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi from power.
“We were naïve and stupid,” said Mr. Satanovsky, an influential analyst. “The Chinese were the same. Trust this: That was the last mistake of such type.”
Another consideration is practical. Syria is a major customer of Russia’s state weapons exporters, who by one estimate have already lost as much as $10 billion in orders during the political turmoil of the Arab Spring and a missile contract with Iran that was shelved as a result of the “reset” with Washington. The military industry holds sway over a significant slice of Russian voters and “will be very angry at the ruling group” if further contracts are lost, said Fyodor Lukyanov, editor of Russia in Global Affairs.
“We have an election year here, and this time it is a more real election campaign. He is campaigning quite seriously,” Mr. Lukyanov said. “That means all groups of society are valuable, and the military industry is very angry over this chain of events.”
Russia has benefited from Syria’s isolation from the West over the years, because it enjoys preferential access for its arms and petroleum industries. Syria places orders worth about $700 million a year, making it a “major, very important, high-priced client by Russian standards,” said Ruslan Aliyev, a defense specialist at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, a Moscow research center. But Moscow wields little influence over Mr. Assad, he said.
Mr. Aliyev, who was present at meetings with American diplomats last week, said that Americans were convinced that Mr. Assad’s government would fall and advocated engaging with the opposition. Russian officials are “more pragmatic,” arguing that change will lead to “a civil war, followed by rampant violence and banditry and terrorism, as it happened in other countries,” he said.
Mr. Lavrov sent a clear signal last week that Russia would not intervene militarily in defense of Mr. Assad’s government.
Some Russian analysts warn that if Mr. Assad falls, it will lead to a broader war pitting Arab nations against Iran. Mr. Satanovsky said that Russia could see “maybe hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of refugees coming from Iranian territory into Azerbaijan and Russia” if that were to occur, as well as ethnic violence against Christian minorities and the spread of terrorism. He said Russia supported not Mr. Assad, but stability.
“After Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq, Afghanistan, why should Russia once more look at all this with the idea that everything will be all right?” he said. “This is not a choice between good and bad, this is a choice between bad — which we have now — and terrible and apocalyptic.”
January 27th, 2012, 8:58 pm
Ghufran said:
United Nations (CNN) — The U.N. Security Council discussed Friday a resolution introduced by Morocco that calls on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down and transfer power to his vice president.
The resolution also supports “full implementation” of the Arab League report on Syria that called on Syria to form a unity government within two months but stopped short of supporting military intervention. The Arab League report was released about a month after it sent observers into Syria.
Arab League Secretary-General Nabil el-Araby and Qatar’s Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani, are expected to brief the council Tuesday about the observer mission’s findings. When asked whether that briefing would lead to a vote next week, France’s U.N. Envoy Gerard Araud responded with just one word: “Inshallah,” or “God willing” in Arabic.
British Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant said a vote could be held as soon as Wednesday on the text. “It was quite clear that there was very strong support in the Security Council this afternoon for the text that was introduced by Morocco.”
The next step is a meeting of experts from the missions of the 15 countries on the Security Council, on Monday afternoon.
January 27th, 2012, 9:12 pm
Ghufran said:
فتح الصادق المهدي النار على من سمّاهم بالتكفيريين خلال إمامته صلاة الجمعة اليوم بمسجد الهجرة أو “الأنصار” بأم درمان، وختم خطبته بتحديد مسؤولية الحكومة في حملهم على سحب فتواهم (أو) لجوئه هو أنصاره للقضاء.
وشدد المهدي على أنه “في حال تقاعس القضاء أو عجزه سوف نتصدى لهم حتى ننتصف منهم؛ لأن خطرهم على الإسلام والسودان صار واضحاً”.
وحول موقفه من الفتوى محل الخلاف قال المهدي: “موقفنا الآن من هذا العبث باسم الدين هو أننا نحمّل الحكومة المسؤولية كاملة على أن تحملهم على سحب فتواهم التكفيرية، والاعتذار عن تلويث مناخ السودان المتسامح”.
January 27th, 2012, 9:30 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Ghufran
Thank you for keeping us informed about what is going on in Sudan,Libya, Tunisia,and other countries.
Please continue and tell us about what is going on in Zimbabwe too.thanks
January 27th, 2012, 9:59 pm
Ghufran said:
Majed
اذا اردنا ان نعرف ماذا في ايطاليا علينا ان نعرف ماذا في البرازيل
رحم الله نهاد قلعي
January 27th, 2012, 10:17 pm
Tara said:
I also would like to thank Mina for always keeping us not only informed but also updated about Somalia, Kenya, and Africa in general.
We need a specialist in south east Asia specifically Cambodia.
January 27th, 2012, 10:19 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
المنصف المرزوقي: الفرصة مواتية لاحياء اتحاد المغرب العربي اثر انهيار الدكتاتوريات وبداية الاصلاحات
That proves what I said before,Democracy leads to unity,dictatorship leads to seperation
January 27th, 2012, 10:20 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
http://syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=143261
Russia may abstain
January 27th, 2012, 10:40 pm
Tara said:
Homs massacre
Published on Friday 27 January 2012 14:37
Meanwhile, a video posted online by activists showed the bodies of five small children, five women of varying ages and a man, all bloodied and piled on beds. It appeared to be an apartment after a building was hit yesterday in the Karm el-Zaytoun neighborhood of the city. A narrator said an entire family had been “slaughtered”, thought The video could not be independently verified.
Details of yesterday’s wave of killings in Homs were emerging from an array of residents and activists today, though they said they were having difficulty because of continuing gunfire.
“There has been a terrifying massacre,” Rami Abdul-Rahman, director of the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, tsaid. He called for an independent investigation of the killings.
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There were also a string of attacks by unknown gunmen on army checkpoints, Saleh said. Checkpoints are a frequent target of dissident troops who have joined the opposition.
The violence culminated with the evening killing of the family, Saleh said, adding that the full details of what happened were not yet clear.
The Observatory said 29 people were killed, including eight children, when a building came under heavy mortar and machine gun fire. Some residents spoke of another massacre that took place when shabiha – armed regime loyalists – stormed the district, slaughtering residents in an apartment, including children.
“It’s racial cleansing,” said one Sunni resident of Karm el-Zaytoun. “They are killing people because of their sect,” he said.
Some residents said kidnappers were holding Alawites in the building hit by mortars and gunfire in Karm el-Zaytoun, but the reports could not be confirmed.
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/international/syria_assad_s_forces_attack_residential_buildings_killing_30_say_reports_1_2082276
January 27th, 2012, 11:02 pm
Ghufran said:
خفضت إيران اليوم قيمة عملتها الريال بنسبة 8%، وأعلنت أنها ستفرض سعرا موحدا لصرف العملات بهدف محاربة السوق السوداء، والتي شهدت الأونة الأخيرة ارتفاعا كبيرا للدولار على خلفية العقوبات الغربية الجديدة التي فرضت على إيران.
وأوضح محافظ البنك المركزي محمود بهماني أن السعر الجديد للدولار هو 12260 ريالا، وسيطبق هذا السعر بعد غد السبت في كل المؤسسات والمعاملات البنكية، ووفق بيانات المركزي فإن سعر الدولار بلغ الخميس 11296 ريالا.
وستتيح هذه الخطوة خفض المستوى المرتفع لنسبة التضخم التي زادت إلى 20% خلال الأشهر الستة عشر.
وبالرغم من خفض قيمة الريال فإن السعر المحدد يبقى أقل بكثير من السعر الذي بيع بها الدولار الأميركي في مكاتب الصرف العام الجاري، حيث بلغ سعره أكثر من عشرين ألف ريال في ظل مسارعة الإيرانيين لتحويل مدخراتهم إلى العملات الأجنبية.
Interest rate on saving accounts: up to 21%
January 27th, 2012, 11:14 pm
Ghufran said:
Russia will veto any aggressive UN resolution but will abstain if the resolution is modified to meet certain Russian requirements. Any future regime needs to provide guarantees to Russia who seems now less concerned about protecting Bashar but more focused on preserving the Syrian army and seeing its friends take some government positions. Regime loyalists need to remember that there was life before Bashar and there will be life after him,there is nothing wrong in sidelining a divisive figure like Bashar if that is likely to help the country heal and move forward.
January 27th, 2012, 11:22 pm
Ghufran said:
سفير روسيا في الأمم المتحدة : موسكو مستعدة لبحث مشروع القرار العربي الاوروبي بشأن سوريا
January 27th, 2012, 11:26 pm
ann said:
There’s a new SC poll in the upper left corner of this page
January 27th, 2012, 11:53 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Majed,
I did not imply you believe in the “end justifies the means”, I implied in civil war and war in general many people believe that, and pursue that type of thinking.
And in every civil war there are outsiders that help influence one side or another (or both), it is true in the US, Spanish, French, even Rwandan civil war, and sadly would be the case in Syria if full on civil war happens. These outsiders have their own interest (mainly money) at heart when they get involved, and unfortunately for us to them innocent Syrian lives are not only expandable, but the more that die the more money they stand to make.
A good book that talks about foreign involvement in modern civil wars (mainly african) is Merchant of Death, it is a story about a Russian man named Victor Bout who supplied arms to all sides in pretty much every conflict that happened in the 90’s (the movie God of War was loosely based on his life, and actually one of his smuggling planes was used in the movie). It is a good read and I highly recommend you picking it up (very entertaining, and quit diabolical).
The most important lesson we Syrians can learn from Lebanon, is not how ugly and brutal we can turn on each other, but how bloody efficiently this regime works under such circumstances.
January 27th, 2012, 11:58 pm
irritated said:
157. SANDRO LOEWE
Your endlessly repetitive mantra that the regime will fall, that the people who support it are dummies etc.. etc.. is a clear sign that you want to convince yourself otherwise you won’t repeat at each of you post.
If Bashar survives and the Russian win the political war, (edited for hateful language)
January 28th, 2012, 12:17 am
irritated said:
187. Ghufran
Bashar is going to probably be the scapegoat, but we all know that the regime is not Bashar. So the regime will survive even if Bashar goes (even temporarily as the french are suggesting ). Bashar is probably the less hardliner of the regime.
I think when the opposition will be sitting in the dialog with the regime, as they will be obliged to do it according to the AL plan, they may painfully regret Bashar al Assad.
January 28th, 2012, 12:24 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Iran parliament will vote on banning export of Iran oil to Europe.
Self sanction
Sorry Ann I beat you to this news,but you can continue to talk about Cambodia
January 28th, 2012, 12:47 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Khaled Mashaal left Syria to Qatar
January 28th, 2012, 12:54 am
bronco said:
#155 Tara
This is where the information comes from.
“The SNC said in an interview with the Kuwaiti newspaper Al Rai that Saud Al Faisal informed them that Saudi Arabia will recognise the SNC as the “official representative of the Syrian people”, at a yet unspecified date.”
I have not seen any official declaration directly by the Saudis. It is a second hand information.
In my view this is a propaganda agitated by the SNC carried by the media to threaten and humiliate the Syrian government in retaliation for Moallem dismissing attitude toward the GCC.
The GCC may eventually recognize the SNC as France did, as “a legitimate interlocutor with which we will continue to work” or at best “a official representative of the opposition”
In the remote hypothesis that the SNC is recognized as the ‘official representative of the Syrian people”, then it means that the Syrian government is not anymore representing the Syrians, so what’s the point of the dialog with the Syrian government included in Arab League plan?
The Arab league plan becomes automatically void.
In my view, the SNC is so desperate to be recognized as ‘something’, whatever it is, just not to be dismissed and ignored as they have been by the Arab League and most foreign countries. They need that because when dialog time comes, they don’t want the Syrian local opposition to have any word, they want to be the only one to negotiate. They have begged every single country without success. I think it is one more attempt to get some recognition.
January 28th, 2012, 1:15 am
VOLK said:
European resolution on Syria crosses Russia’s “red lines”
A proposed European-Arab UN resolution on the Syria crisis crosses Russia’s “red lines” on opposing sanctions or an arms embargo, Russia’s UN envoy said Friday.
Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told reporters after UN Security Council talks on a draft text proposed by France, Britain, Germany, Morocco and other Arab states that the document was “unacceptable.”
Churkin, whose country is a strong ally of the Damascus government, accused the Arab League of trying to “impose” a Syria solution and some of its members of seeking to “undercut” efforts to find a political end to the deadly showdown between President Bashar al-Assad and opposition demonstrators.
The new Europe-Arab resolution gives strong backing to an Arab League plan that calls on Assad to hand over powers so that a new election can be held. It supports Arab League sanctions without making any call for compulsory international action.
Russia, with China, vetoed a European proposed resolution on Syria in October. They accused the western powers of seeking regime change in Syria. Moscow has since proposed its own resolution but there have been hardly any talks on the text.
Churkin said that Russia’s delegation had “explained what we consider our red lines, where we cannot go.” These include any hint of sanctions or an arms embargo.
Churkin said the Europe-Arab draft “not only ignored our red lines but also added some new elements which we find unacceptable as a matter of principle.”
The Russian ambassador said the Arab League and the proposed resolution sought to “impose” a political outcome in Syria before talks have started.
“The Security Council cannot go about imposing solutions in crisis situations in various countries of the world,” he stated.
Churkin was critical of Arab states which have withdrawn from the Arab League monitoring mission in Syria.
“The Arab League may have its ideas where political dialogue should go. Certainly they are free to express those ideas but the Security Council should not be a tool to impose specific solutions on countries including in this particular case Syria,” he said.
He added however that Russia was ready to take part in more talks on the text.
http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=357865
January 28th, 2012, 1:15 am
irritated said:
#195. majedkhaldoun
“Khaled Mashaal left Syria to Qatar”
But he did not close the Hamas offices in Damascus. The US considers the Hamas as a “terrorist organization”, so it will not be a big loss for Syria if it closes the offices in Damascus.
Good luck to Qatar, they will have offices of two terrorist organizations, the Taliban and Hamas.
January 28th, 2012, 1:21 am
Revlon said:
193. irritated:
((187. Ghufran
Bashar is going to probably be the scapegoat, but we all know that the regime is not Bashar))
What is he in your opinion?
A dummy!
When he gives Speeches you invariably applaud his performance, courage and political Savvy!
He can say yes, or no to the ongoing massacres!
Can’t he?
He can take the plane and defect to Russia, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Lebanon, or any BRIC country!
Can’t he?
((So the regime will survive even if Bashar goes (even temporarily as the French are suggesting).
Can you define “Temporarily”?
– Length of time? 1 day, 1 week, 1 months, 1year?
– Until when?
Until Unity government is formed and assumes full power?
Until New elections are held?
Until he is through from investigations of 7000-plus crime against humanity and through with serving 7000-plus life terms or surviving 7000-plus hanging episodes!
((Bashar is probably the less hardliner of the regime.))
Define hardliner!
He characterised the protests as conspiracy and sedition!
What would the hardliners consider it?
He called for burying sedition with whatever it takes?
What more would the hardliners call for?
He regarded torture and murders of unarmed civilians by his security forces and army as mistakes?
Does it make any difference to the lost souls or bereft families if the hardliners dubbed it otherwise?
Would you regard his commanding the killing of 7000 Syrian citizens, including toddlers, children, woman, wounded patients, and senior citizens in 11 months, under the watchful eyes of the world as other than hard line belligerence?
((I think when the opposition will be sitting in the dialog with the regime, as they will be obliged to do it according to the AL plan))
Anyone who shares a round table with any crime suspects of the regime shall be considered an accomplice to their murders and doomed to become an outcast of the Revolution for Freedom.
((They may painfully regret Bashar al Assad))!
Do not worry Irritated!
The only ones who shall painfully regret shall be the regime and their supporters, irrespective of ideology or ethnicity, who over the last 11 years of Jr’s reign, and over 11 months of this Revolution have let a chance after chance for a genuine national reconciliation to slip away, deluding themselves into being able to hold on to their blood-stained Godfather’s legacy, even it required the re-enactment of its ugliest chapters.
January 28th, 2012, 1:32 am
zoo said:
Iran could stop exporting oil to Europe immediately inflicting a blow to the European countries who were counting on 6 months phase-in to find a replacement provider. It may create a serious but temporary shock in some already crippled European countries.
Iran could ban EU oil exports next week: lawmaker
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/27/us-iran-sanctions-oil-idUSTRE80Q0GW20120127
Reuters) – A law to be debated in Iran’s parliament on Sunday could halt exports of oil to the European Union as early as next week, the semi-official Fars news agency quoted a lawmaker as saying on Friday.
“On Sunday, parliament will have to approve a ‘double emergency’ bill calling for a halt in the export of Iranian oil to Europe starting next week,” Hossein Ibrahimi, vice-chairman of parliament’s national security and foreign policy committee, was quoted as saying.
Parliament is pushing for the export ban to deny the EU a 6-month phase-in of the embargo on Iranian oil that the bloc agreed on Monday as part of a raft of tough new Western sanctions aimed at forcing Iran to curb its nuclear program.
The EU accounted for 18 percent of Iranian crude oil sales in the first half of 2011, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), making it Iran’s second biggest customer after China.
“If the deputies arrive at the conclusion that the Iranian oil exports to Europe must be halted, the parliament will not delay a moment (in passing the bill),” Fars quoted Moayed Hosseini-Sadr, a member of parliament’s energy committee, as saying.
“If Iran’s oil exports to Europe, which is about 18 percent (of Iran’s oil exports) is halted the Europeans will surely be taken by surprise, and will understand the power of Iran and will realize that the Islamic establishment will not succumb to the Europeans’ policies,” he said.
Reflecting how seriously Tehran was taking the idea, Iran’s OPEC governor Mohammad Ali Khatibi told the ILNA news agency the country might choose to raise the issue at the next OPEC meeting.
Iran’s conservative-dominated parliament has previously shown it is ready to force the government to take action against what it sees as hostility from the West.
In November it voted to expel the British ambassador after London announced new sanctions ahead of other EU countries.
The day after that vote, radical Iranians stormed the British embassy, causing London to withdraw all staff and close the mission.
January 28th, 2012, 1:36 am
Revlon said:
The resive loop of Damascus suburbs is beomming to tight for comfort to Jr’s neck!
Saqba, a Damascus Suburb is firmly under the control of the FSA and its volunteers.
Arwa Daimon from Saqba, today
28/01/2012
CNN
تقرير صحفي مترجم من داخا سقبا – دمشق
January 28th, 2012, 1:56 am
jad said:
Details about the kidnapped Iranian engineers by the terrorist militia and the role of the French in this operation:
“الحقيقة” تضع يدها على قرائن تشير إلى تورط المخابرات الفرنسية في عملية اختطاف الإيرانيين
زوجة الصحفي الفرنسي المغدور في حمص ، كارولين بوارون ، التقت عبد الرزاق طلاس والمخطوفين بتكليف من المخابرات الفرنسية ، وبطلب من إيران
باريس ، دمشق ، دبي الحقيقة ( خاص من : مازن ابراهيم + مكتب التحرير) : بثت قناة”الجزيرة مباشر” يوم أول من أمس ، قبل أن تتبعها “الجزيرة” الرئيسية و”العربية”، شريطا للمهندسين والتقنيين الإيرانيين الخمسة المختطفين في سوريا من قبل “كتيبة الفاروق” في حمص ، التابعة لما يسمى “الجيش السوري الحر”. وزعمت القناة أنهم “ضباط من الحرس الثوري الإيراني”. وقالت المحطة إنها حصلت على الشريط من “الجيش” المذكور. ويكشف الشريط واحدة من أكبر عمليات النصب والاحتيال المغرقة في غبائها وتفاهتها ، لدرجة أن “الجيش السوري “نفسه الذي يخطفهم ، والمعروف بغبائه وفبركاته الساذجة ، عفّت نفسه عن نشر الشريط على موقعه ، على الأقل حتى ساعة نشر هذا التقرير!؟ وكما يبدو من المقدمة الكتابية وصور ملالي إيران التي وضعت للشريط ( حذفتها”الحقيقة” لتخفيف وزن الشريط)، والتي ادعت أنهم “ضباط من الحرس الثوري الإيراني جاءوا لمساعدة نظام الأسد على قتل الشعب السوري”، فقد طالب الخاطفون القيادة الإيرانية بالاعتراف بأن هؤلاء من “الحرس الثوري” دون قيد أو شرط لكي يطلق سراحهم!
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“ولكن ما هي قصة اختطاف هؤلاء المهندسين والتقنيين، وما هو دور المخابرات الفرنسية في كل ما جرى ويجري لهم!؟
في 28 تشرين الثاني / نوفمبر الماضي ، كشفت صحيفة ” لوفيغارو” الفرنسية أن المخابرات الفرنسية تقدم مساعدات لمسلحي ما يسمى “الجيش الحر” في شمال لبنان وفي حمص ، بما في ذلك معلومات عن تحركات الجيش السوري عبر الأقمار الصناعية ، وأجهزة تصويب ليلية ( مناظير تعمل بالأشعة تحت الحمراء) ، و تساعدهم من خلال المهربين على إدخال السلاح إلى الداخل السوري. وقد جاءت تقارير لاحقة لعدد من الصحف والمجلات ومراكز الأبحاث الغربية لتؤكد ذلك . ولعل أبرزها ما نشره مركز “ستراتفور” الاستخباري الأميركي وما قاله مؤخرا ضابط وكالة المخابرات المركزية الأميركية السابق فيليب جيرالدي لمجلة ” أميركان كونسيرفاتيف” عن تورط قوات خاصة أميركية وفرنسية وبريطانية في قيادة عمليات “الجيش الحر” داخل الأراضي السورية. وغني عن البيان أن ” كتيبة الفاروق” ، التي خطفت هؤلاء الإيرانيين ، وتحتفظ بهم الآن ، هي من يقوم بجميع عمليات “الجيش الحر” الإجرامية في حمص ومحيطها. وهي المعنية بتلقي المساعدات الاستخبارية الفرنسية التي تحدثت عنها “لوفيغارو”.
في 11 كانون الثاني / يناير الجاري ، أقدم مسلحو ” كتيبة الفاروق” على اغتيال الصحفي الفرنسي جيل جاكييه بقذيفة “مورتر”(هاون) ، كما أكدت صحيفة ” لوفيغارو” نفسها ، وكما أكد لاحقا تقرير المراقبين العرب الذي قدم لجامعة الدول العربية قبل أربعة أيام. لكن ما جرى له ولزملائه الصحفيين الفرنسيين الآخرين بعد عملية الاغتيال يستحق التأمل ، فهو أشبه بفيلم هوليودي. فبعد أن نقلت السلطات الصحية في حمص جثمان الصحفي المغدور إلى الطبابة الشرعية في المشفى، توجه السفير الفرنسي في دمشق ، إيريك شوفالييه، بسرعة البرق إلى المشفى في حمص وقام بـ”سرقة” جثة الصحفي المغدور ونقلها إلى مطار دمشق الدولي وإرسالها إلى فرنسا فورا حتى قبل أن يتمكن طاقم الطبابة الشرعية السورية من تفحصها وإعداد تقرير بشأنها . وهو عمل قرصني بامتياز، بالنظر لأن السلطات السورية ، وحسب القانون الدولي والمحلي ، هي المعنية وصاحبة الحق بفحص الجثة من قبل الطبابة الشرعية وإعداد تقرير مفصل عن الواقعة قبل تسليمها إلى الدولة المعنية ، إذا كان الضحية أجنبيا. هذا فضلا عن كونه عملا مثيرا للشبهة يوحي بأن السفير أراد أن يخفي شيئا ما!؟ ولم يكتف السفير بذلك، بل أقدم على سحب جميع الصحفيين الفرنسيين الموجودين في حمص ووضعهم في السيارات المصفحة لموكبه ونقلهم إلى دمشق بصحبة جثة زميلهم. وكان لافتا أنه رفض نقل مراسل “وكالة الصحافة الفرنسية” جوزيف عيد مع زملائه الآخرين ، رغم أنه الصحفي “الحقيقي” الوحيد الذي كان هناك ، والذي لا يمكن الشك بهويته المهنية ، إذا ما أخذنا بعين الاعتبار أن الصحفيين الفرنسيين الآخرين الذين سحبهم السفير ” مشكوك في أمرهم وأمر وجودهم في حمص”!؟
هذا الشك ليس وليد تصورات أو خيالات أو عقلية ” مؤامرة”. والدليل على ذلك الواقعتان التاليتان:
1 ـ الواقعة الأولى ، وطبقا لما أفادنا بذلك صحفي في “القناة الثانية” الفرنسية (القناة التي يعمل فيها جيل جاكييه ، وهي بالمناسبة معروفة بأنها قلعة إعلامية للوبي الإسرائيلي في فرنسا) ، حصلت الشهر الماضي ، حين تقدم جاكييه بطلب إلى السفارة السورية في باريس للحصول على ” فيزا” لتغطية الأحداث في سوريا. وكان لافتا أن طلبه أرفق بمطلب يعبر عن عنجهيته وصلفه الكولونيالي ، حيث اشترط أن تسمح له السلطة السورية بمقابلة ضباط “الفرقة الرابعة” و ” مرافقة الفرقة في عملياتها القمعية في المحافظات”! وهو طلب أجمع زملاؤه الذين يعرفونه ، والذين تحدثنا إليهم ، على أنه طلب “غريب ومثير للشبهة ، ولا يمكن أن تقبل به أي دولة في العالم ، بما في ذلك دولته نفسها ، فرنسا”.ويؤكد المصدر أن المغدور ” كان في الواقع عميلا لجهاز المخابرات الخارجية الفرنسية أكثر من كونه صحفيا ، وكان مكلفا من قبل الجهاز المذكور الاتصال بمسؤولين محددين من ” كتيبة الفاروق”في إطار عمل استخباري لا علاقة له بمهنته).
2 ـ الواقعة الثانية تتصل بزوجة المغدور جاكيه . فقد كشف مصدر في مجلة ” باري ماتش” لـ”الحقيقة” أن زوجته، كارولين بوارون Caroline Poiron (الصورة جانبا) ، وهي المصورة المعتمدة للمجلة المذكورة ، كانت “أرسلتها المخابرات الخارجية الفرنسية مطلع الشهر الجاري سرا ، بطريقة التسلل من شمال لبنان، إلى سورية ، بهدف مقابلة الملازم الأول عبد الرزاق طلاس والحصول على صورة تثبت أن الإيرانيين المختطفين لديه لمّا يزالوا على قيد الحياة”!؟
هذا المصدر ، الذي أكد لنا هذه المعلومات ، كان اكدها أيضا في رسالة خاصة بالبريد الإلكتروني أرسلها في 17 من الشهر الجاري لصديق له يعمل في أحد مراكز الأبحاث في لندن ( انظر صورة طبق الأصل عن الرسالة منشورة جانبا). وبحسب هذه الرسالة ، فإن اتصالات سرية جرت بين إيران وفرنسا للمساعدة في إطلاق الرهائن الإيرانيين، لأن إيران تدرك جيدا أن الجهة الخاطفة (“كتيبة الفاروق”) تعمل بإنرة المخابرات الفرنسية . وقد قبلت فرنسا القيام بهذه الوساطة نظرا لأنها الجهة الوحيدة التي لها علاقات مع “كتيبة الفاروق” ، ولأنها كانت تخشى إقدام إيران على الانتقام من الفرنسيين عبر استهداف جنودها في جنوب لبنان! وتشير الرسالة إلى أن المصورة كارولين ” سبق لها أن قامت بمهمات مماثلة لصالح المخابرات الخارجية الفرنسية في ليبيا أيضا خلال الحرب التي شنها الحلف الأطلسي على نظام القذافي الصيف الماضي”. وكان لافتا أن الصورة الوحيدة التي أثبتت أن الإيرانيين الخمسة المختطفين لا يزالون على قيد الحياة هي الصورة التي نشرتها “باري ماتش ” ، والتي التقطتها كارولين بنفسها في أحد الأماكن السرية التي يقيم فيها عبد الرزاق طلاس في حمص!؟
ليس هذا كل شيء. فبحسب معلومات حصرية حصلت عليها “الحقيقة” من باريس ، استمرت المفاوضات غير المباشرة بين سوريا وإيران من جهة ، و فرنسا من جهة ثانية ، خلال الأيام القليلة الماضية. إلا أن تعثر المفاوضات ، ورغبة الفرنسيين في استخدام الرهائن الخمسة “للابتزاز السياسي” ، دفعت جهة في المخابرات الخارجية الفرنسية ليس فقط إلى تحريض ” كتيبة الفاروق “التي تعمل بإمرتهم على فبركة الشريط المنشور يوم أمس والزعم أنه لمقاتلين من “الحرس الثوري”، بل إلى تحريض “الجيش الحر” على المزيد من عمليات الاختطاف للرهائن الإيرانيين ” لأنها الطريقة الوحيدة للضغط على طهران في الملف السوري ، والطريقة التي يمكن أن تؤلب الشارع الإيراني والمعارضة الإيرانية ضد حكومتهم على خلفية التزامها العنيد في دعم نظام الأسد ” ، كما يقول صحفي فرنسي يعمل في صحيفة ” ليبيراسيون”. وهذا ما يقودنا مباشرة إلى القرينة الأكثر دلالة ، وذات المغزى العميق.
هذه القرينة ، والتي تتقاطع تماما مع مطلب المخابرات الفرنسية من “الجيش الحر” ، جاءت في سياق ما كان كشفه لنا ضابط يعمل قريبا من العميل رياض الأسعد قبل حوالي أسبوعين . ففي تقرير نشرته “الحقيقة” بتاريخ 13 من الشهر الجاري ، كشف لنا الضابط أن رياض الأسعد اتفق مع برهان غليون ، خلال اجتماعهما في استانبول في 12 الشهر الجاري ، على اختطاف إيرانيين من الحجاج إلى العتبات الشيعية المقدسة في سوريا ، ورعايا إيرانيين آخرين ، فضلا عن لبنانيين شيعة من التجار والطلاب ، ومن رعايا الجالية الروسية، بهدف مبادلتهم بضباط وعسكريين وسجناء سياسيين في المعتقلات السورية ، والضغط على الحكومتين الإيرانية والروسية للتخفيف من تصلبهما في دعم النظام السوري . هذا بالإضافة إلى تصوير هؤلاء في أشرطة تظهرهم وهم يدلون بـ”اعترافات” أنهم من ” الحرس الثوري “الإيراني و ” عناصر حزب الله الذين يمارسون قمع المظاهرات في سوريا”!؟
مقابلتنا مع الضابط نشرت في 13 من الشهر الجاري ، أي قبل أكثر من أسبوعين على بث الشريط واختطاف الـ 11 حاجا إيرانيا يوم أمس! فهل ثمة قرينة أقوى من ذلك على السلوك الإجرامي والبلطجي الذي بات يطبع ليس مسلحي رياض الأسعد فقط ، بل أستاذ السوربون الجليل أيضا ، الذي باتت هوايته المفضلة هي البول في ملابسه … نكاية بالطهارة!؟”
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/6555/Default.aspx
January 28th, 2012, 1:58 am
zoo said:
Syrian rebels blackmail Iran supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei over Iranian hostages who “admitted” having killed ‘women and children’ in a video “confession”
Syrian rebels say they hold seven Iranians hostage
http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-rebels-hold-seven-iranians-hostage-155753092.html
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The hostage video showed one man, named as Haidar Ali, admitting to coordinating with Syria’s Air Force Security unit.
“I and my team members, with the support of Syrian security-intelligence forces, were involved in suppressing and shooting ordinary Syrians … and we killed a lot of people, including women and children, in the city of Homs,” he said.
It was not possible to determine if the confession was forced.
“We urge Iran’s supreme military leader (Ayatollah Ali) Khamenei to order the Iranian military personnel who suppress the Syrians to be repatriated from Syria, so we can also return home,” Ali said.
January 28th, 2012, 1:58 am
jad said:
Alarabi and Qatar are trying to block Aldabi from traveling to NY to avoid sharing his report with the UNSC session:
“البناء”: قطر والعربي يسعيان لعرقلة سفر الدابي الى نيويورك خشية الاستماع اليه في مجلس الامن
نقلت صحيفة “البناء” عن مصادر سياسية متابعة للموقف الروسي أنه “يمكن اعتبار المعركة الدائرة الآن هي ليست فقط على مستوى سورية فحسب، وانما على مستوى تشكّل النظام العالمي الجديد، ومن هنا فانها غير مستعدة ـ روسيا ـ لاي مغامرة بخسارة مع سورية”.
وفي هذا الإطار أكّدت المصادر ان “روسيا سترفض طرح اي مشروع على التصويت يتعلق بالوضع السوري قبل مشروعها المقدم منذ ما يقارب الشهرين، وهو مكتوب بالحبر الأزرق، ما يعني وفق بروتوكول مجلس الأمن امكانية طرحه للتصويت في أي لحظة”.
ولفتت الصحيفة الى أن “محاولات تجري بين قطر والأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي وبان كي مون الأمين العام للأمم المتحدة لاستبعاد سفر رئيس بعثة المراقبين الفريق أول محمد الدابي الى نيويورك خشية الاستماع الى مداخلته (في مجلس الامن) التي باتت معروفة المضامين”.
January 28th, 2012, 2:13 am
Juergen said:
good report of cnn in damascus
http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2012/01/27/pkg-damon-syria-saqba.cnn
January 28th, 2012, 2:15 am
jad said:
Jurgen the ‘good’ report of Syria going down the hill is already posted in 201, and since we are repeating here you go the other report of CNN:
Cities, residents divided in Syria
http://youtu.be/uCRRoNFq-C8
‘Abducted Iranians moved to N Lebanon’
An informed source in Lebanon says the five Iranian engineers who were kidnapped in Syria last December have been relocated to northern Lebanon, Press TV reports.
A tribal figure in northern Lebanon, speaking on condition of anonymity, made the revelation to a Press TV correspondent on Friday.
On December 21, 2011, five Iranian electrical engineers were kidnapped by armed gunmen while travelling to a power plant in the Syrian city of Homs.
Later, two other Iranians, who were trying to obtain information about the missing men, were also kidnapped, and their whereabouts are still unknown.
Syrian armed gangs and terrorists are known to have taken sanctuary in northern Lebanon.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/223465.html
January 28th, 2012, 2:24 am
Revlon said:
Opposition in exile is ready to finance the FSA.
B. Qudmani: The revolution has assumed irreversible, military dimensions.
المعارضة السورية في الخارج مستعدة لتمويل المنشقين عن الجيش
بسمة قضماني: الانتفاضة أخذت أبعادا عسكرية لا رجعة فيهاAl Sharq Al Awsat News paper
28/01/2012
http://www.aawsat.com//details.asp?section=4&article=660988&issueno=12114
January 28th, 2012, 2:27 am
Revlon said:
204. jad:
((Alarabi and Qatar are trying to block Aldabi from traveling to NY to avoid sharing his report with the UNSC session).
Al Dabi operates under the Authority fo the AL.
He reports to Al-Arabi and not to any other source.
Travelling to NY is not part of his AL mandate as far as I know!
His report has all the details he wanted to convey.
Anyways!
Who ivited AL-Dabi to NY?
Any link to other than “Syrian truth or Media”
January 28th, 2012, 2:33 am
Revlon said:
Assad Shabbeeha flasly claiming to be FSA members kidnap kids of wealth families in Damascus and demand hefty ransoms for their release.
Adel Nasif
28/01/2012
http://www.facebook.com/LCCSy
3 hours ago
..عاجل(نرجو النشر): الأجهزة الأمنية الاسدية والجيش الأسدي الخائن يقومان في دمشق وبعض المدن السورية بأعمال مافيا و سرقة لأملاك المواطنين والصاق التهمة بالجيش الحر..حيث يقومون بخطف أبناء ثم الاتصال مع أهاليهم وطلب مبالغ فدية كبيرة على أساس أ…نهم الجيش الحر..و الشيء السخيف بالموضوع أنهم يتصلون بالاهالي من ارقام موبايلات محلية مع العلم أن الجيش الحر ليس غبيا” و دنيئا” ليقوم بهكذا أعمال..هذه المعلومة مؤكدة و هناك أشخاص أعرفهم وقعوا ضحية لتلك الاعمال القذرة(تاجر في دمشق طلبوا منه 25 مليون ليرة سورية مقابل ابنه المخطوف)..و هذا يدل على افلاس النظام الاسدي مما يضطرهم لسرقة اموال الشعب..و قام أحد الضحايا بمراجعة فرع فلسطين بدمشق ليبلغهم عن رقم الموبايل السوري الذي اتصل به على أنه الجيش الحر فقالوا له سنبحث في الموضوع ولم يصله رد منذ شهر..مع العلم انهم يستطيعون الوصول لصاحب الرقم خلال ساعات فقط !!!,,,..
January 28th, 2012, 2:44 am
Revlon said:
588 demonstrations took place across the Syria, in 470 different areas.
28/01/2012
Local Coordination Committees in Syria
لجان التنسيق المحلية في سوريا
On Friday, Jan. 27, The distributions of participants were recorded as follows:
133 different areas in Idlib with 139 demonstrations, 57 different areas in Homs with 77 demonstrations, 57 different areas in Daraa with 68 demonstrations, 54 different areas in Hama with 60 demonstrations, 51 different areas in Aleppo with 65 demonstrations, 42 different area in Damascus Suburbs with 57 demonstrations, 20 different areas in Hasakeh with 31 demonstrations, 18 in Deir Ezzor with 32 demonstrations, 16 different areas in Lattakia with 22 demonstrations, 5 different areas in Raqqa with 7 demonstrations , 1 area of demonstrations in Tartus with 6 different demonstrations, 1 demonstration in Swayda, and 1 demonstration in Qunaitara.
January 28th, 2012, 2:48 am
Revlon said:
An oil pipeline was set aflame at dawn today by the indiscriminate shelling of Assad forces of the city of Qriyeh
28/01/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PrukROd_l4&feature=player_embedded
دير برس-القورية : انفجار انبوب النفط نتيجة القصف 28-1
January 28th, 2012, 2:52 am
Revlon said:
18 months old Mohamed Hilal died today of a mortar shell that destroyed his house.
He shall be buried, like other kids before, in compliance with Jr’s directive; Wadulfitnah (The burial of Sedition).
Dawn of 28/01/2012
6 hours ago
Qouriah, Deri Azzor
http://www.facebook.com/LCCSy
لجان التنسيق المحلية في سوريا
دير الزور: القورية: استشهاد الطفل محمد الهلال وعمره سنة ونصف إثر إصابة منزله بقذيفة، أثناء القصف العشوائي للمدينة من قبل جيش النظام فجر هذا اليوم.
January 28th, 2012, 3:09 am
Juergen said:
JAD
I saw it thank you, i should refresh my browser more often before posting…
January 28th, 2012, 3:11 am
Badr said:
This is an excellent article in my opinion.
Collectively failing Syrian society
Peter Harling
Foreign Policy
24 Jan 2012
Click here to read the rest.
January 28th, 2012, 3:17 am
jad said:
Russia slams ‘unacceptable’ draft resolution on Syria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ImQnXmScq4&feature=colike
Russia has opposed the new Arab-European draft resolution on Syria presented by Morocco in the UN Security Council on Friday. Russia’s ambassador to the UN says it will continue to search for ways to end the ongoing bloodshed there.
As RT’s Marina Portnaya reports from New York, Russia’s ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkin, expressed “deep” disappointment with the draft, indicating that he does not believe that the international community should impose an outside solution on the Syrian conflict. He also rejected the idea of an arms embargo or the use of force being imposed on Syria.
تشوركين: نختلف مع الجامعة العربية لمحاولتها فرض حل خارجي للصراع بسوريا
أعرب مندوب روسيا في الأمم المتحدة فيتالي تشوركين خلال جلسة مجلس الامن أمس، عن خيبة أمل كبير تجاه مشروع القرار المقدم من الدول الغربية الى مجلس الأمن حول سوريا.
وأبلغ تشوركين مجلس الأمن بأنه يختلف مع الجامعة العربية لمحاولتها فرض حل خارجي على الصراع في سوريا، كما رفض فكرة فرض حظر للسلاح وإستخدام القوة.
January 28th, 2012, 3:30 am
jad said:
Jurgen,
ZDF is still reporting about Syria almost every night, I have to admit that so far the majority of the German TV channels and news sites proved to be the most balanced and professional coverage of the struggle, they are doing a very good job.
January 28th, 2012, 3:35 am
jad said:
شخابيط ثورية 8: أنا خائن .. أنت خائن!
http://youtu.be/OneLcqpNZLA
January 28th, 2012, 3:48 am
Juergen said:
Jad
thanks for sharing, unfortunatly ZDF is not my favorite channel.But i will look in their mediasite for the reports. Given that we usually dont send our best journalists to this part of the world, you are right about professionalism.
January 28th, 2012, 4:48 am
Uzair8 said:
An excellent interview with BBC’S Jeremy Bowen on BBC RADIO 5 Live last night.
Listen from 0.06.00 till 0.12.12
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b019q7q6 or go straight to:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b019q7q6
Available for about another week.
January 28th, 2012, 6:25 am
Revlon said:
I predict that the chain reaction for the fall of the regime shall start in Damascus.
Mounting pressure on Central Damascus or a special clandestine operation to arrest Jr in his hideout, whether it fails or succeeds could provide the trigger.
Once in motion, the collapse could be precipitous; hours to days.
The SNC and FSA must have a thorough, contingency plan that once activated it would effect seamless replacement of the collapsed political and security systems.
Such plans need to include written speeches and directives to be presented by SNC and FSA president and Commander to pronounce Syrian People Free, and provide a road map and work plan for action in the 1st week, 1st months and 1st year, until parliamentary elections.
Therafter SNC president need to schedule a weekly speech to adress the nation, until the end of the transitional period.
Teams of medical and social specialists need to be ready to be deployed to needy areas for immediate relief. Prior Co-ordination with international human rights and aid groups must be secured.
Teams of technocrats need to be ready for deployment to all joints of government all over Syria, in order to preside over, and oversee the enactment of the new transitional government policies.
lessons learned from the Tunisian and Libyan experiences ought to be assimilated.
Victory is near!
January 28th, 2012, 6:42 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
The junta is killing them while the FSA is feeding them (Homs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggKhQ68BE8
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January 28th, 2012, 6:57 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Creative Syria (with umbrellas)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHmm9tJ3BIs
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January 28th, 2012, 7:01 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Revlon,
I agree with you. Looks like the rope is tightening around their necks faster now. The revolution flags are now flying high in squares, 15 min drive from the palace. wow. The repression apparatus of the junta (shabbiha, muhabarat, Alawi divisions) are disintegrating in a faster phase than previously thought.
I believe it’s a matter of weeks now, not months.
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January 28th, 2012, 7:33 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
And last important point.
Where are all the detainees? There are tens of thousands of Syrians, who were abducted (kidnapped), and no one knows their whereabouts.
Now they talk about 7000 dead. When this junta is gone and it’s crimes fully exposed, I believe that the number will be much higher than that.
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January 28th, 2012, 7:43 am
Juergen said:
I will post an article which was published in DIE ZEIT this week, i find it quite extrodinary. I will just translate most parts to keep the posting smaller.
Leap into the new era
The Arab League was once the club of dictators. Now she calls the regime change in Syria.
by Michael Thumann
Everybody hates the Arab League. The ruler in Damascus, Bashar al-Assad accused them of “blatant interference” in Syria. The Syrian opposition accuses her to work for the Assad regime. Iran complains of the league’s paw of the West. Saudi Arabia finds them for far too soft on Assad.
But when nobody likes the Arab League at the moment, that’s a sign that the league is doing something quite right: it interferes. Even with its latest resolution by the beginning of the week, which creates a peaceful transition for the post-Assad. The Syrian regime is quite disgusted by it. Assad needs to fight the opposition quietly and is therefore not keen for foreign visits. His opponents want the intervention of the United Nations (UN). The Observer Mission to Syria of the Arab League, is now before the failure.
In Syria, the Arab League makes a new experience: it will be criticized for their activities and not for them watching the events happen. The Arab riots have shaken up the often paralysed Arab Leaque. Exactly one year after the Egyptian Revolution, the League makes headlines with human rights issues. She dares make a move, risking to fail on this . The league changed, of necessity, out of necessity, under pressure from the outside.
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“We are interested in human rights issues,” says Ali Erfan an top advisor to the general secretary. “That was not so an issue before” The Arab League is actively interfering in the internal affairs of its members, “earlier” absolutely unthinkable. Human rights crimes are now seen as a security threat. And so it is handled. “Had the Arab League in the arab spring, stood silently on the edge,” says Erfan, “she would have been dead.” The moment in which the Arabs wrote world history, the Arab League threatened to be irrelevant. They had to change, out of sheer necessity to survive.
Previously it was more convenient. The Arab League was founded in 1945, just months before the UN. Back in Cairo, the strong men put on the agenda, which suited them barely so. They were against something: against the colonial powers Britain and France, anyway against the all-powerful America, against Israel. Sometimes against their own members.
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Today, you can not just be against something. The Arab League members have to decide whether they support the uprising in the Arab world. Ali Erfan sees the states of the league under a huge pressure. It’s not about gratuitous outrage against America and Israel. It’s all about herself, about freedom and future of all Arabs. And suddenly, most governments are forced to it: for the Revolution (the others) and for its own democratization (always gently) so long as they dont endanger themselves.
So really it all fits together: new times, new countries and new people. Why did the Syrian mission went wrong? Ali Erfan, the advisor of Al-Arabi said it this way: “The Arab League is like a car, built in 1945, runs on a highway of the 21st Century ”
The Syrian mission shows the example. The Arab League is set big goals, but they could not fulfill them.
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When in New York in the UN building, a dozen departments with hundreds of employees operate such missions, the league has only a small group to the Secretary. While there is an situation room equipped with much high tech, but the employees are not adequately trained to control missions from there.
Its may be too fast for an apperatus which was used for decades to prevend on taking over tasks or which was paralyzed from the controversy among dictators. Today, the League of Arab States,has to bridge between young revolutionary and more or less stable monarchies. About the missions failure in Syria, there is this conflict: The league wants to extend the mission, but now the Saudi monitors as well as the rest from all Gulf countriesleft the misson out of disgust. And how functional the Human Rights Department will be is yet to be seen. “We will expand, says a league employees. But clicking on the website of the League for the Human Rights Committee, you will get the message: “” No Content.
But the Arab League can grow with the challenges. Although its charter does not allow it, it has imposed sanctions against Syria. Now Prime Minister Al-Thani on behalf of the League Assad has asked for the resignation of Assad. Assad should clear the way for a national unity government, elections will be prepared. The League is calling for a regime change. Even this a small revolution. But no military intervention, says Al-Thani. Like: The Arab League has no reaction force. The states may not yet agree on the call for a UN force or even agree on an Arab intervention. But wait. In these times, everything seems to be possible at some point.
http://www.zeit.de/2012/05/Arabische-Liga/seite-1
January 28th, 2012, 7:53 am
majedkhaldoun said:
weather conditions are difficult today in Syria.
Should the SNC form goverment in exile?
Revlon
Yes FSA has to infiltrate Damascus
AL froze the observers mission due to increase in death and the worsening of the regime brutal suppression.
January 28th, 2012, 8:18 am
majedkhaldoun said:
A general (3ameed)just defected with 300 soldier and they join the FSA
January 28th, 2012, 8:45 am
Revlon said:
Syrian Dream . سوريا الحلم
28/01/2012
https://www.facebook.com/TheSyrianDream
#syria
سوريا الحلم . اللاذقية المحتلة . استشهاد أربعة أطفال حرقا بعد أن أطلقت قوات النظام الهمجية طلقات حارقة على منزلهم الكائن في شارع القوتلي مقابل جامع صوفان .
10 year old Hamza , 9 year old Izzidin, and 3 year old Issa, children of detainee Dr Ma3d Taye3 were burned to death after their house was set a blaze by scorch bombs.
والشهداء هم أبناء الطبيب المعتقل : معد مواهب طايع ، وهم : حمزة طايع 10 سنوات و عزالدين طايع 9 سنوات وعيسى طايع 3 سنوات .
تقبل التعازي في مدينة جــدة في منزل عم الشهداء المهندس مازن مواهب طايع يوم غد الأحد 29/1/2012 في منزله الكائن بشارع الأمير سلطان ، جنوب دوار التاريخ ، قبل مكتبة العبيكان ،بعد صلاة المغرب
نأمل نشر الموضوع على أكبر نطاق ، نريد أن نستغل المناسبة لتعريف الناس بالمستوى إجرامي الذي وصل إليه النظام
January 28th, 2012, 9:53 am
annie said:
93. Revlon said:
“I am afraid I am becomming numb to the sight of human suffering….”
We can cope with only so much pain and numbness sets in, on the surface, but the pain digs deep in our hearts.
you say :”Victory is near!” May the powers that be hear you.
January 28th, 2012, 9:59 am
Jerusalem said:
A comment from a Syrian author and that is exactly why the majority is silent.
أود أيضا أن أثير انتباهك لشيء مهم يا حضرة الشيخ وهو أن الطوائف التي تحرض على قتلها وسحنها في الشوارع لولاك ولولا خطابك الطائفي الظلامي الرجعي الجاهلي السادي كانت انضمت للحراك الشعبي منذ عدة شهور ولكن السلفية والوهابية والإسلام الصهيوني الذي ذكرته هو سبب عدم قناعتها بفورتكم وحقدكم وغلكم. أنا ممن رأى الجثث التي كان رفاق دربك والسائرين خلف خطاك وخطا بغال النفط قد رموها في مناطق متفرقة مقطعة بالساطور ومنخورة بالمثاقب ومقطعة بالصواريخ التي يستعملها الحدادين عندها كفرت بكل الأديان وعلى رأسها الإسلام يا راعاك الله.
January 28th, 2012, 10:06 am
Ghat Al Bird said:
Maybe Syria should follow the Israeli [democratic] ways of doing things as examplified below……
Ethnic Enclaves
Expectedly, the State of Israel is nothing but a large collection of ethnic enclaves. “Arim Meoravot” is Hebrew for “Mixed Cities,” cities where Palestinians and Jews live together; Haifa, Jerusalem, Lod, and Ramle are examples of these. Yet, this term is just wishful thinking.
On the neighborhood level, people live in ethnic enclaves. One will find Bedouin, Druze, Circassian, Palestinian, Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, Iraqi, Iranian, Moroccan, and a thousand more ethnic neighborhoods. People would seldom mix. The State of Israel encourages that; divide and conquer is its favored tactic.
In January 2012, interesting data was published. The Jewish real estate market is suffering a severe recession, while the Palestinian market is flourishing. The term “severe recession” doesn’t correctly reflect the size of the calamity for the Zionist Dream. Some of the data hints the game is over for Mr. Theodore Hertzl.
The most obvious parameter foe analyzing the real estate market is the price of the goods. Accordingly, prices in the Jewish neighborhoods are decreasing since summer 2011, following a short-lived increase in its prices before that.
The Palestinian market is boiling, with prices increasing sharply in acquisitions and rents; since 2010, prices almost doubled there.
Israeli realtors are also divided along ethnic lines; thus their data is not likely to get mixed up. Yet, a more dramatic event is taking place under the nose of Benjamin Netanyahu, and this time there is nothing he can do to stop reality from eradicating evil discrimination.
January 28th, 2012, 10:09 am
Equus said:
To: 227. Revlon
It’s indeed sad; but this is a civil war, what else did you expect from civil war? Syria is in civil war and not going into one. It’s living it. There will be more on each end, sadly.
January 28th, 2012, 10:10 am
irritated said:
Revlon #219
“I predict that the chain reaction for the fall of the regime shall start in Damascus.”
When? in 2013?
“The SNC and FSA must have a thorough, contingency plan that once activated it would effect seamless replacement of the collapsed political and security systems.”
You are giving too much credit to this incoherent group. A plan? I really doubt, they are too busy courting all the enemies of Bashar to have anything concrete to offer except facebook promises.
They are just a bunch of Chalabis…
They have yet to be recognized officially by other countries than Libya and France
January 28th, 2012, 11:03 am
irritated said:
218. Uzair8
Jeremy Bowen BBC interview
Nothing new…Bashar seems weaken but not ready to fall.. We have been hearing that for the last 6 months.
January 28th, 2012, 11:12 am
zoo said:
Scenarios for the endgame in Syria, which is yours?
January 28, 2012 01:15 AM
By Rami G. Khouri
The Daily Star
Now that the Arab League has decided to ask the United Nations Security Council to back its plan to resolve the crisis in Syria, the prospects of international involvement in Syria inches forward just a bit more. This adds a new dimension to the already fertile debate on how the mounting violence and expanding political crisis will end.
In the last few months, I have heard dozens of scenarios for how things might play out in Syria. Some are plausible, others are fantastic, but all are suggested seriously by usually knowledgeable observers and analysts. They go something like this.
The most common scenario I hear is that tensions and violence will continue to the point in the coming year where economic collapse causes some influential figures in regime of President Bashar Assad to carry out a coup, after despairing that Assad can find a political solution to the crisis. Such a coup would be led by Alawite and Sunni military officers who would recognize the need to make a deal with the demonstrators and send Syria onto a path of serious political democratization, while sparing Alawites widespread retribution after the fall of the House of Assad. A variation of this sees an inside plot to assassinate the top leaders, and bring an immediate end to the crisis.
Another common scenario is that the Russians will recognize that Assad’s approach is doomed to fail and will shift away from their current course of using a veto to prevent Security Council moves to pressure Damascus. In this script, Russia convinces Assad to step down and leave the country with his extended family and their riches.
A variation on this sees a combination of Alawite leaders, military officers and top businessmen collectively deciding that they are all doomed if the current trends persist, and working together to do one of two things: either to engineer a coup and force Assad’s exit, or to sit him down and make clear that they – his pillars of support – see only doom, so that he must turn over power to a democratic transitional leadership before total collapse ruins the country.
A more dramatic possibility in some people’s view is for regional and global powers to impose no-fly zones and safe havens along Syria’s northern and southern borders. This would speed up the regime’s abandonment by tens of thousands of soldiers and civilians, speeding up its collapse from within. This process would be hastened by further economic deterioration impacting on all sectors of society, as tighter international sanctions – including bans on aviation and banking links with Syria – lead to shortages of basic goods and runaway inflation that make it impossible for most Syrians to live a normal life. This would also spark massive anti-regime demonstrations in Damascus and Aleppo, the death knell of the Assads.
A more drastic possibility is that the polarization of Syrian society along ethnic lines and full civil war will reach a point where the unified state collapses, and the Alawites retreat into their mountains to form their own state in their northwestern heartland. Some suggest this has been the aim of the crisis all along, with “outsiders” provoking civil strife to the point where Syria breaks up into statelets, including Alawite, Druze, Kurdish and Sunni entities.
This would occur at the same time as Iraq faces similar disintegration as a unified country and leaves behind Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish entities of some sort. Culprits behind this scenario it is said, of course, is Israel and America, whose desire for hegemony over the Middle East would be made much easier by the presence of weaker ethnic statelets rather than larger, stronger Arab states. In such a scenario, Israel would quickly come to the aid of some of these ethnic statelets – as it tried to do with some Lebanese groups in the 1980s – and thus cement both the fragmentation of the Levant and its dominance of it.
The most terrible scenario sees the deterioration in Syria leading the Assad regime to implement the Sampson Option. It would seek to instigate strife and chaos across the region, in order to plunge the Levant into a regional conflagration. This option would be based on the Assads’ assumption that if they cannot rule over a unified Syria, then nobody in the neighborhood should be able to live in peace and security either. Such a scenario would involve attacking or fomenting strife in Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Turkey and Iraq, perhaps resulting in the desperate use of chemical or even nuclear weapons.
These are only the most plausible scenarios that are widely circulated in the region these days. The more outrageous ones we will leave for another day to ponder.
Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Opinion/Columnist/2012/Jan-28/161336-a-terrifying-menu-for-syrias-endgame.ashx#ixzz1klqkCO00
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
January 28th, 2012, 11:25 am
zoo said:
If Hamas leaves Syria, where would it go? Neither Jordan nor Egypt want it and Hamas does not seem eager to go to Qatar?
Hamas Divided Over Its Presence in Syria
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/hamas-divided-over-its-presence-syria
January 28th, 2012, 11:35 am
zoo said:
Could this happen in Syria?
Al-Jabouri: Dying to Fight Sectarianism
By: Alaa al-Lami
Published Sunday, January 15, 2012
The self sacrifice of Iraqi army Lieutenant Nazhan Faleh al-Jabouri to save Shia pilgrims poked a hole in the dominant narrative of sectarian strife in Iraq
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http://english.al-akhbar.com/print/3381
January 28th, 2012, 11:43 am
Revlon said:
Dear Mu3taz Al Dendeshi,
I have just read on Ugarit News website that مجاهد أحمد العثمان الدندشي
fell martyr earlier today in Telkalakh.
Assuming he was a relative of yours, please accept my sincere condolences.
AlFatiha upon his soul,
May God bless his family with solace and empower them with fortitude.
January 28th, 2012, 11:49 am
mjabali said:
I think a very violent era had just started now and you can mark it.
Violence is going to increase and sooner or later Syria is going to DIVIDE.
Violence is going to tear Syria apart and of course it will reach the areas and states around.
As if we need another era of those.
January 28th, 2012, 12:12 pm
Revlon said:
Funeral sermon for child Abdallah AlTarshi, victim of Assad forces.
His brothers huddle around his body and reach out to touch his face, while trying their best to hold back their tears!
The sermon is defiant, and the mood in the mosque is choked with rage.
28 01 2012 Homs أوغاريت حمص حي الملعب , مقطع مؤثر لأخوة الشهيد عند نعشه ج4
January 28th, 2012, 12:13 pm
ann said:
League of Arab States Observer Mission to Syria
Report of the Head of the League of Arab States Observer Mission to Syria for the period from 24 December 2011 to 18 January 2012
http://www.innercitypress.com/LASomSyria.pdf
January 28th, 2012, 12:38 pm
Revlon said:
Syrian peasants, once the benefactors of the Baath Revolution, are now in the driving seat of the revolt against the decadent Assad Baathist system.
Peasants of Quneitra march in funeral procession of one of their sons Ahmad Abu Qasem, while chanting against the Assad’s Baathist regime.
AlFatiha upon his soul,
May God bless his family with solace, and empower them with fortitude.
28 1 2012 Mumtanna, AL Qounaitera أوغاريت ممتنة القنيطرة , تشيع الشهيد أحمد محسن ابوقاسم
January 28th, 2012, 12:40 pm
ann said:
Fresh blast targets oil pipeline in eastern Syria – 2012-01-28
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/28/c_131379954.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 28 (Xinhua) — Unidentified gunmen blasted early Saturday an oil pipeline in the eastern Syrian province of Deir al- Zour, causing a huge fire in the area, the private Sham FM radio reported.
The authorities are working to extinguish the ensuing fire of the blast, which took place in al-Qurraia area in the province, the radio said.
It remained unknown who was behind the attack, which was part of a series daring attacks that have been intensified lately in Syria that targeted the oil and gas sectors in an attempt to further strangle the already-ailing economy.
Earlier in January, Syrian Oil Minister Sufian Allaw said that the destructive acts carried out by armed groups against oil pipelines and other related institutions, in addition to European Union’s sanctions on Syrian oil, have extremely damaged the country’s oil business.
Allaw said that the damage that befell oil institutions is estimated at 2.1 billion Syrian pounds (about 35.7 million U.S. dollars).
He meanwhile noted that 21 people were killed and 24 others wounded from the oil sector, in addition to five others who were kidnapped over the past 10 months.
Also, Minister of Electricity Imad Khamis has recently said that the attacks carried out by armed and terrorist groups have inflicted big damage on distribution networks and maintenance workshops.
Khamis said that the direct material damage caused on the networks is valued at nearly 713 million Syrian pounds (12.1 million dollars), whereas the value of indirect economic damage, which hit the national economy, reached around 23 billion Syrian pounds (391 million dollars).
He also said that terrorist attacks at gas pipelines and railways that ferry fuel to power generating stations have undermined some of those institutions while the others are operating with partial capacity.
More than two weeks ago, an armed group attacked a gas pipeline near al-Rastan town in central Syria that feeds al-Zara and al- Zayzoun power stations.
At least six pipelines have been targeted since the eruption of the unrest in Syria in March of 2011. Syria held what it called ” saboteurs” responsible for the attacks.
January 28th, 2012, 12:47 pm
Revlon said:
232. Dear irritated:
((Revlon #219
You are giving too much credit to this incoherent group. A plan? I really doubt, they are too busy courting all the enemies of Bashar to have anything concrete to offer except facebook promises.
They are just a bunch of Chalabis…))
Your comment made me curious!
In hind sight, and assuming the proven ability of Saddam Hussein to maintain his grip on power till now and/or the almost certain prospect of his replacement by his son Udai, would you rather had Sadam Husein stayed in power till now?
January 28th, 2012, 12:49 pm
ann said:
Seven army men die in ambush near Syrian capital: state media – 2012-01-28
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/28/c_131380012.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 28 (Xinhua) — At least seven army personnel were killed Saturday when an armed group showered their overnight bus with bullets in the countryside of the Syrian capital of Damascus, the official SANA news agency reported.
According to the report, the armed group targeted the bus on the road between the Adra and Douma suburbs of Damascus.
A lieutenant was among the killed, and the bodies of the victims were transported to the Tishreen military hospital in Damascus, SANA added.
January 28th, 2012, 12:53 pm
Revlon said:
10 Martyrs have fallen so far in Damascus country side Governorate today, three of whom are still unidentified.
AlFatiha upon their souls,
May God bless their families with solace and empower them with fortitude.
Ugarit News | أوغاريت الإخبارية
28/01/2012
http://www.facebook.com/UgaritNEWS
أوغاريت || ريف دمشق :: أسماء الشهداء حتى الساعة :
1- الشهيد خالد أحمد حيدر – زملكا
2- الشهيد محمد رشيد قنص بالرأس وهو في سيارته – ميداني الاصل – عين ترما
3- الشهيد عبد العزيز طه نخلة – معضمية الشام
4- شهيد آخر لم يصل اسمه – معضمية الشام
5- شهيد من دوما في كفربطنا
6- استشهاد الشاب باسم عدنان دالاتي العمر 19 عام استشهد باعدام ميداني نفذه حاجز في حرستا
7- شهيد جراء القصف على معظم أنحاء الغوطة – حمورية
8- الشهيد عمر قويدر – عربين
9- الشهيد الشاب نادر البني – سقبا
10- الشهيد هيثم المصري / عربين /
January 28th, 2012, 12:57 pm
ann said:
Interview: Syria’s anti-colonialism cradle boasts sectarian unity during unrest – 2012-01-29
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/29/c_131380108.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 28 (Xinhua) — A revered minority sheikh of Sweida, the cradle of Syria’s revolutions against foreign occupation over the past century, said in an interview with Xinhua that the southern province’s residents will not revolt against other Syrians during the country’s current crisis.
Wearing a traditional white turban and a black robe, Sheikh Akel of el-Mowahideen el-Druze Sect, Sheikh Abu Wael Hamoud al-Hinawi, said the Syrian sects are not pitted against each other.
The Druze sheikh, who grows a busy moustache, told Xinhua that he will never raise his weapon against another Syrian, whatever his sect might be.
Since last March, Syria has been gripped by protests inspired by movement in other Arab nations. The once peaceful demonstrations aimed at democracy have evolved into armed insurgency with alleged army defectors fighting the government forces.
Damascus said some 2,000 army and security personnel have been killed since the start of the unrest, while the UN reported more than 5,400 deaths.
The current crisis, breaking out in an adjacent city to Sweida, is at a critical juncture as the daily grind of violence has stirred up fears that the country might be sliding toward a civil war.
“What is happening to Syria is tragic and something we never wished for,” Sheikh Hinawi said. “However, the Syrian people, despite their diverse sects, are still united as one fabric and have never fought each other throughout the history.”
Sweida became known as Jabal Druze in the second half of the nineteenth century due to its considerable number of Druze settlements. Its one-million-population was able to obtain autonomy under the Ottoman rule after winning many battles against the Turkish armies.
In the 1930s, Jabal Druze was also referred to as Jabal al-Arab in recognition of the nationalist role played by the Syrian Druze.
Under the leadership of Sultan Pasha al-Atrash, the Druze formed a major military force behind the Great Syrian Revolt against the French from 1925 to 1927. They led a successful revolt against foreign occupation in May 1945, making the Jabal the first and only region in Syria that liberate itself from the French rule without any foreign assistance.
“We, as a Druze sect, do not issue edicts to kill and do not call for inner fighting among Syrians,” Sheikh Hinawi said.
Syrian forces stepped up their crackdown against restive areas in central Syria and the Damascus suburbs over the past couple of days. The government’s patience is running thin and is sending a clear message that it is resolute to settle the situation once and for all and end the spiraling violence, which it blames on armed groups sabotaging the country’s security and stability.
The escalation came after the Arab League’s recent decision to turn to the UN Security Council for support for its new plan over the Syrian crisis, which calls for the formation of a national unity government that excludes incumbent Syrian President Bashar Assad. The plan was denounced by Damascus as a flagrant interference in the country’s internal affairs. Millions of Syrians also took to the streets to voice their rejection of the plan.
Sheik Hinawi said the Arab League should work for the unity of the Arab world and heal the wounds.
“The Arab League should work to assist the Syrian people by taking an evenhanded and honest stand,” he said. “Had there been corruption in the country, it couldn’t be abated by killing and destruction… it can be eradicated by reforms.”
He stressed that the Druze support the process of reforms, noting that they are not bystanders to the crisis.
“We have put forward our own vision and made contacts with the Syrian political leadership in an effort to help ride out the crisis, because the responsibility to resolve the crisis lies on every Syrian, regardless of their sects,” he said.
However, the sheikh stopped short of expounding the nature of their initiative and the government’s response to it.
“The homeland is what matters most to us… we have to protect it from foreign conspiracy,” he said, adding that reforms cannot come from outside the country.
Sheik Hinawi shrugged off allegations that the crisis would enflame tensions among Syria’s complicated mix of religions. Most of Syrians are Sunni Muslims but there are other minorities.
He said members of his Druze minority, an offshoot of Islam, are “Syrian nationals” who would never accept attempts to stir up sectarian fighting.
“Even if there are some media outlets saying Syria is on the brink of a sectarian rift, this is their own business… we will never call for any fighting except to defend out homeland,” Hinawi stressed.
The Syrian opposition is still struggling to find a unified voice and has been careful to paint their movement as free of any sectarian overtones.
Sheikh Hinawi appealed to all Syrians to launch a national dialogue involving all spectra of ethnicities. “We call on all Syrians, and the Arab League, to salvage Syria.”
January 28th, 2012, 1:00 pm
irritated said:
243. Revlon
You are comparing Saddam to Bashar.. That’s a compliment to Saddam.
You obviously prefer to see regime changes by violence followed by decades of chaos. We have examples all around us.
Like the Russians, I prefer to see common sense and dialog to prevail, not hysteria.
If the Arab league had common sense, they would have pushed for a resolution calling for a referendum in Syria on the reforms proposed by the regime under the UN supervision, instead of sanctions and military threats.
They should have tried to calm down the spirits instead of enflaming them more.
That would have shown what the Syrian really want instead of polls and media making just assumptions on who is for or against the regime.
Now it may be too late and the blow up may spill blood on the Syrians in Syria in the total indifference of the western world.
January 28th, 2012, 1:05 pm
Revlon said:
Aleppo this weekend looks no different than Saqba or Midan of Damascus
27 1 2012
Aleppo, AlMarjeh
27 1 Aleppo أوغاريت حلب حي المرجة , شجاعة الابطال في مواجهة الامن جمعة حق الدفاع عن النفس
January 28th, 2012, 1:12 pm
Revlon said:
247. Dear irritated,
You have dodged the question!
I am still waiting for an answer!
January 28th, 2012, 1:14 pm
Alan said:
158. JAD
أكدت مصادر إسرائيلية أن إسرائيل زودت مسلحي “الجيش السوري الحر” بقواذف مضادة للدروع من طراز Shipon B-300.
The Kh-35E (3M-24E) tactical missile Can be the answer for Israel!
January 28th, 2012, 1:16 pm
ann said:
Stop The War Protests Against Iran And Syria Intervention – 28/01/2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/01/28/stop-the-war-protests-against-iran-and-syria-intervention_n_1239053.html?ref=uk
Hundreds of anti-war protesters gathered in central London today at a demonstration against Western intervention in Iran and Syria.
The rally, organised by the Stop the War Coalition, took place outside the US embassy in Grosvenor Square with a number of speakers addressing the 200-strong crowd.
Protesters waved banners bearing the words “Don’t attack Iran” and “Hands off Iran and Syria”, while the crowd joined together in chanting: “One, two, three, four, we don’t want another war. Five, six, seven, eight, stop the killing, stop the hate.”
The coalition opposes all military intervention from the West in Iran as concern that the Middle Eastern country is developing nuclear weapons grows.
The group says there is “absolutely no justification” for Western countries to become involved.
Stop the War Coalition activist John Rees said the uprising that ousted Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak a year ago proved that oppressed people in the Middle East could fight for themselves.
He said: “Here is a people who without the bombers and the bullets, the tanks and the soldiers, or the United States, or Britain, or any of the Western powers, pulled down a dictatorship on their own.
“Even after a year’s still further struggle, there is not one single Egyptian revolutionary who will ask for support from the United States or military assistance from the United States, and it is because of this: they are still being shot down in the streets by Egyptian soldiers who are using American weapons and American bullets, so why would they ask for help from their killers?”
Rees said that history showed that foreign intervention led to the future of these countries not being controlled by their own people.
He told protesters: “After they are finished, the resources of these countries will not be in the hands of the country’s people, they will not be democratically controlled by the people of these countries, they will be controlled by the masters of the people who will be working in this building (the US embassy).”
He added: “Ordinary people have the capacity to deal with the dictatorships.
“They have the capacity to go on fighting week after week, month after month, to get democracy, to control their societies, to abolish poverty, and they will not stop fighting until they get it.
“Our business, the business of people who live in this country, is to make sure that they have the space and the freedom to do it.
“Our business is the business of keeping our Government off the back of people in the Middle East and giving them their chance to achieve freedom and democracy for themselves.”
Iranian activist Shirin Shafaie said the West had shown “double standards” in previous conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
She said: “Double standards are the worst enemy of justice and injustice is the worst enemy of peace.
“We must make sure history doesn’t repeat itself.
“We are here to make sure there is not another war anywhere in the world, which is led by America or European countries.”
January 28th, 2012, 1:17 pm
irritated said:
#249
Saddam is a dictator responsible of the murder of hundred of thousands of Kurds and Shias, responsible of millions of death in the murderous 8 years war with Iran ( with the help of the USA and the GCC), and another hundred thousands in the Kuwait invasion.
His elimination was necessary. He was a threat to the other Arab countries after they pampered him for years.
No one regret his elimination, even if the way it was done is as debatable as the killing of Qaddafi.
In comparison with Saddam, Georges Bush and other, Bashar is only a misguided leader.
January 28th, 2012, 1:27 pm
Alan said:
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2012/01/28/syria-looking-for-ways-to-make-agrression-legal.html
Syria: looking for ways to make agrression legal
Alexander MEZYAEV, 28.01.2012
January 28th, 2012, 1:30 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Mjabali
whar do you mean syria will be divided? can you please elaborate more
January 28th, 2012, 1:34 pm
zoo said:
“cleansing the outlaws’ going on in the “FSA” stronholds.
The demoted Rami Abdul Rahman is still feeding news to the media? Death toll: 23 military or security and 11 civilians(?)
http://news.yahoo.com/least-15-killed-clashes-ambush-syria-155622932.html
At least 34 people died in violence across Syria on Saturday, as activists reported fierce clashes between soldiers and deserters and authorities warned the country would be “cleansed” of outlaws.
Twenty-three of those reported killed were military or security personnel.
Soldiers clashed with deserters in the restive central town of Rastan in Homs province, said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which reported similar confrontations in Al-Ghuta, near the capital.
Rami Abdel Rahman, who heads the Britain-based watchdog, told AFP three deserters were killed in Rastan’s fighting, while at least five soldiers were killed in clashes in nearby Al-Hula.
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January 28th, 2012, 1:36 pm
mjabali said:
حج Revlon:
They are called Farmers and Not Peasants. A peasant works in the land of others, and these guys, thanks to you know who, own their own land and FARM it. They were peasants before in the eyes and practice of the landowners, you know who….I thought an Islamist like you would be sensitive to social justice issues…But, as I always thought, religious thinkers are always not really honest on social justice matters..
January 28th, 2012, 1:37 pm
Syrialover said:
Juergan #224.
That is a worthwhile article with fresh perspectives on the Arab League. I am glad I am able to read it thanks to you.
Can you contact the writer and see if there is a way it can be expertly translated from German into Arabic? I want to send it to Syrians who cannot follow it in English.
January 28th, 2012, 2:20 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: MJABALI
RE: “…A peasant works in the land of others…”
WRONG, Petunia. Here are the definitions of “peasant.” As you can see, land ownership is not the point. The point is in the SIZE of property a peasant works or owns.
1. A member of the class constituted by small farmers and tenants, sharecroppers, and laborers on the land where they form the main labor force in agriculture.
2. A country person; a rustic.
3. An uncouth, crude, or ill-bred person; a boor.
Oh, and by the way, you could be a peasant, considering the uncouth and boorish manner in which you insulted my man, Revlon. You need somebody to bitch-slap you…
January 28th, 2012, 2:26 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
A TERRIFYING MENU FOR SYRIA´S ENDGAME
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Opinion/Columnist/2012/Jan-28/161336-a-terrifying-menu-for-syrias-endgame.ashx#axzz1kmZrZVxE
January 28th, 2012, 2:41 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Can we define Assad as a peasant?
3. An uncouth, crude, or ill-bred person; a boor.
January 28th, 2012, 2:44 pm
Revlon said:
252. Dear irritated
((His (Saddam) elimination was necessary. He was a threat to the other Arab countries after they pampered him for years.
No one regret his elimination, even if the way it was done is as debatable as the killing of Qaddafi.))
It is fair then that you should withdraw your condescending statement about Chalabi!
Moreover, you should give him the credit for playing a pivotal facilitating role in the invasion of Iraq.
((Saddam is a dictator responsible of the murder of hundred of thousands of Kurds and Shias, responsible of millions of death in the murderous 8 years war with Iran ( with the help of the USA and the GCC), and another hundred thousands in the Kuwait invasion.)).
In order to forcefully remove the savage tyrant, you find the war waged by George Bush and the western coalition to had been justified, although It:
– Was against a sovereign Arab country
– Lead to the destruction of the strongest Arab armies
– Lead to the death or wounding of tens of thousands of army members and bereavement of their families
– Lead to the death of thousands of civilians as collateral damage.
– Involved torture and humiliation of thousands of proud Iraqi people, in Abu Ghraib prison, and others.
– Lead to the vast destruction of Iraq’s infrastructure
– The looting of its museum treasures
– Was vehemently opposed to by B. Assad whom you could not compare with Saddam Hussein.
((In comparison with Saddam, Georges Bush and others, Bashar is only a misguided leader.))
Here you go again!
You are contradicting yourself.
You approve the liberation of Iraq but you disapprove of George Bush who did the job?!
Here is a reminder of Bashar’s legacy:
– He regards Hama massacre that lead to the death of tens of thousands, the imprisonment and torture of tens of thousands, and the displacements of tens of thousands of civilians as a bright example of fight against terrorism. He had 11 years on his hand to initiate a related national reconciliation; Alas he did not!.
– He has commanded the killing of over 7000 unarmed civilians, including women and children, the imprisonment and torture of tens of thousands of civilians, and the displacement of tens of thousands of civilians.
Yet you claim that he is “ONLY MISGUIDED”, implying that he is otherwise a good man!
Where is you proof, Irritated?
How do you know that Saddam Hussein was not misguided?
How do you know that Qiddafi was not misguided?
How do you know that George Bush was not misguided, and that he won the war by some misguided divine order?
So you know well how, and do approve using force to remove a tyrant president!
Could you please then provide me with your recipe for removing a misguided, henceforth an inept president who has been in office for 11 years and claim to be loved by all Syrians except a few trouble makers, including me!
In a court of law there is no such thing as “misguided” defence.
There is only insanity!
I get the sense that you could be close to B Assad!
Are you?
January 28th, 2012, 2:50 pm
irritated said:
Sandro Loewe #259
Already posted.
https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/?p=13243&cp=5#comment-293080
January 28th, 2012, 2:51 pm
Juergen said:
Syrialover
Great you liked it. I find ZEIT always revoking, they have assembled quite the elite of journalists, kind of like the Atlantic or NEW Yorker in the US.
I have contacted some of my friends, one is a doctor in arabic, so may be they have some time to translate, i will keep you updated.
January 28th, 2012, 3:00 pm
Revlon said:
258. Dear Dale Andersen,
Thanks for the related info!
January 28th, 2012, 3:01 pm
irritated said:
Revlon #261
The history is full of example of countries getting rid of their dictator without external help. The closest to us is the Shah of Iran, the darling of the USA and western countries. The Iranians got rid of him alone despite the enormous help from the USA and most countries in the world. It is a country that can be proud of itself while Libya lost all their dignity and the Iraqis are now resentful to the USA for having ‘liberated’ them by killing hundred of thousand of people, displacing millions and destroying their country. Their hatred toward the USA will linger for a long time.
In my view, countries must free themselves by themselves otherwise they loose their dignity and self confidence that they often never recover.
It may take decades but it is their responsibility and only theirs.
January 28th, 2012, 3:11 pm
jad said:
Bronoc,
You were right again, SNC statement about KSA to recognize them is FALSE:
سعود الفيصل: لا يمكننا الحديث عن الاعتراف بـ “المجلس الوطني السوري”
قال وزير الخارجية السعودي الأمير سعود الفيصل اليوم السبت أنه لا يمكننا الاعتراف بـ “المجلس الوطني السوري” المعارض في هذه الفترة، في حين دعا وزير الخارجية التركي أحمد داود أوغلو لـ “وقف الدم الهادر بسورية”.
وقال وزير الخارجية السعودي الأمير سعود الفيصل في مؤتمر صحفي مع نظيره التركي في اسطنبول, “نحن التقينا فعلاً في القاهرة مع “المجلس الوطني السوري” بعد اجتماعهم بأمين عام جامعة الدول العربي نبيل العربي”، مضيفاً “لكن مسألة الاعتراف تكون بين دول، وهذا لا يعني تجاهل المجلس ووجوده، إلا أن الاعتراف كلمة قانونية ولا يمكن أن أتكلّم عن اعتراف او عدم اعتراف في هذه الفترة”.
والتقى وزير الخارجية السعودي الأمير سعود الفيصل، يوم الأحد الماضي، بمقر إقامته بالقاهرة، وفدا من “المجلس الوطني السوري” المعارض برئاسة برهان غليون، وذلك لبحث آخر تطورات الأوضاع في سوريا في ضوء تقرير رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب الفريق محمد أحمد الدابى.
من ناحيته, قال وزير الخارجية التركي أحمد داود أوغلو أن “بإمكانه التحدث عن تطابق في وجهة النظر بين تركيا ودول الخليج حول الأوضاع في تونس ومصر وليبيا واليمن وسورية”.
وأشار داود أوغلو أنه “في هذا الإطار نتابع كل التطورات وخاصة في سورية، ونحن في تركيا وفي مجلس التعاون الخليجي ندعم ما تقوم به جامعة الدول العربية”.
وأقر وزراء الخارجية العرب, خلال اجتماعهم بالقاهرة يوم الأحد الماضي, مبادرة عربية دعت إلى تشكيل حكومة وحدة وطنية سورية خلال شهرين، وتفويض الرئيس بشار الأسد نائبه الأول بصلاحيات كاملة, الأمر الذي رفضته الحكومة السورية بشدة, مشيرة إلى أن هذه القرارات تمس سيادة سورية وتعتبر تدخلا بشؤونها الداخلية.
ولفت داود أغلو إلى أنه “يجب وقف الدم الهادر في سورية، ونأمل أن نقوم ببعض الأعمال معاً في سورية، ونريد من القيادة السورية التجاوب مع المبادرات، والدخول في مسيرة إصلاحية بما يتناسب مع تطلعات الشعب السوري وتقدير الموقف بشكل جدي”.
http://syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=143279
January 28th, 2012, 3:21 pm
jad said:
It seems that Hammoudeh and Alarabi can’t take no as an answer to his crappy work, the AL is stopping immediately the observers mission, it’s obviously a retaliation to Russia decision and to escalate the situation even more than it is, The Syrian Government is sorry and surprised!:
الجامعة العربية تؤكد وقف عمل بعثة المراقبين العرب في سورية
أكدت جامعة الدول العربية قرار وقف عمل بعثة المراقبين العرب في سورية بشكل فوري، و إلى حين عرض الموضوع على مجلس الجامعة بسبب تصاعد العنف في البلاد.
أفاد بيان صادر عن جامعة الدول العربية نقلته وكالة (رويترز) اليوم السبت أنه “تقرر وقف عمل بعثة المراقبين العرب في سورية بسبب تصاعد العنف في البلاد”.
وكان رئيس بعثة مراقبي جامعة الدول العربية محمد الدابي قال الجمعة إن أعمال العنف في سورية تصاعدت بشكل خطير خلال الأيام الثلاثة الماضية, مطالبا بوقف العنف بشكل فوري حفاظا على أرواح أبناء الشعب السوري وإفساح المجال أمام الحلول السلمية.
و قال البيان أنه “أجرى الأمين العام لجامعة الدول العربية مشاورات مع عدد من وزراء خارجية الدول العربية وقرر على ضوئها وقف عمل بعثة الجامعة العربية في سورية، بشكل فوري والى حين عرض الموضوع على مجلس الجامعة”.
—
نقل التلفزيون السوري “أسف واستغراب سوريا قرار الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي وقف عمل بعثة المراقبين بعد أن وافقت على تمديد عملها شهرا آخر استجابة لطلب الأمانة العامة في ضوء تقرير رئيس البعثة محمد الدابي”.
واعتبر أن “قرار العربي جاء تمهيدا لإجتماع مجلس الأمن الثلثاء المقبل للتأثير السلبي وممارسة الضغوط في المداولات بهدف استدعاء التدخل الخارجي وتشجيع المجموعات المسلحة لزيادة العنف”، مشيراً إلى أنه “يتماهى مع قرار دول مجلس التعاون الخليجي بسحب مراقبيها كرد فعل على تقرير بعقة المراقبين وليس بسبب ادعائه استمرار العنف وتبادل القصف وإطلاق النار”.
وشدد البيان التي نشرته أيضاً وكالة أنباء “سانا” السورية، على أن “سوريا لا تزال ملتزمة بانجاح مهمة بعثة المراقبين العرب وبتأمين الحماية لهم وفق البروتوكول الموقع وخطة العمل العربية التي تنص على تعهد الحكومة الوسرية بوقف العنف من أي مصدر كان”.
January 28th, 2012, 3:27 pm
Aldendeshe said:
256. mjabalisaid:
They are called Farmers and Not Peasants. A peasant works in the land of others, and these guys, thanks to you know who, own their own land and FARM it. They were peasants before in the eyes and practice of the landowners, you know who….I thought an Islamist like you would be sensitive to social justice issues…But, as I always thought, religious thinkers are always not really honest on social justice matters..
________________________________
They are not just peasants they are peasants and criminals who robed others of land. They did not acquire State owned land, which the Syrian State have plenty, they deliberately confiscated, and by force, took control of others properties that was owned by the FARMERS-LANDOWNERS for generations. These farmers-Landowners spend untold wealth on developing the land and making it suitable for cultivation. The bastards CIRIMINAL PEASANTS got it Scott-free without them, or the State that aided them, paying any compensation whatsoever. In fact not only confiscated land that was stolen by the Peasants, but the entire lot, even the ones, still to this day, in the legitimate owner name and title holder. RETURN OF CONFISCATED LAND AND APPROPRIATE COMPENSATION TO THIS DAY IS A MUST. WAIT AND SEE WHAT IS COMING. Peasant that is all they are just like the Bolshevik peasants of Russia.
January 28th, 2012, 3:41 pm
Hans said:
I have not been writing here for a while, i will get back to this blog, but i think the following is interesting observation for anyone who claims that USA in support of Democracy in Syria or the ME, it is just a good propaganda for public consumption in the USA and outside.
the Arab spring is helping no one but Israel and the Radicals are going to be hunted sooner or later by the American drones all over the world.
New Obama law: right to murder Jean Aziz writes a lot these days about the impossibility of Gulf oil systems constitute a model of democracy, so that a malicious says: it is true that the President here came to power on a «sale paper after the death of his father’s constitutional». But also true that whoever wants to teach democracy is not an authority upend man arrived at his father before his death, then finish his father’s life in politics and life, perhaps.
These days also writes about the impossibility to be Turkey Professor of public freedoms and human rights, as they perceived us sufficient in itself, a movie «rapid» midnight train, with nearby country «» Syriana, big difference between the two mghazii, and amateur art VII …
But among the writings rarely pay attention to the development of Washington itself, is offering itself as a «reference» freedom and democracy for the world today.
Barack Obama, for example, earlier Saturday night at December 31 last year, a sign «black» white «national defence leave act» new crossing surpasses George Bush Jr. ten years ago, with «famous» USA Patriot Act. Thus became Master of the White House, unlike the US Constitution, contrary to all international covenants and Shara guarantors of human rights, contrary to all the terms of international humanitarian law and General … The absolute power to do the following: first, by the commissions to take the decision to kill any American citizen linked to terrorism or planned. Of course not new law separates the modalities and requirements must be met for President such a decision. Don’t even give him broad discretionary power, makes it the closest thing to the Sultan of life or death. Word construction? Of course not, researchers say the Americans themselves, act according to the effective exercise of the lkonnh, the most recent murder of US citizen-«baseband» Anwar aloulki in October last year.
Secondly, to extend the detention of a US citizen suspected of involvement in a terrorist act, “indefinitely”, without any time limits to arrest him. Note that such arrests have us military courts, jails, prisons in US courts.
Thirdly, to decide whether any detainee to be tried before the courts the charge normal federal or spend an exceptional, such as military courts with special laws and special procedures of the rules of evidence and the rights of the defence.
Fourthly, order checks, inspections and raids and listen to any citizen … Without obtaining any authorize legal or judicial warrants. With what it contains to give the President the power to bind any institution or corporation or association, any information owned by any citizen, whether on private or public life, including his movements and contacts of all financial files, and others.
Fifthly, invoking national security allows for failure to disclose any evidence or evidence against an accused in the trial, whether federal or military courts, so that any citizen may be prosecuted and convicted based on secret evidence.
Sixthly, that is all that is necessary to prevent that any member of the US Administration to any international accountability on war crimes. Which adds new us violation of the Nuremberg principles of international law. Note that Washington refuses to cooperate with the International Criminal Court, each State is bound by bilateral agreement, under which the extradition of any American citizen to that Court, punishable and hostility to America.
Seventh, the right to asylum to foreign secret intelligence courts. The topic raised several scandals about Bush-era, and now continues with mkonna Obama.
Eighth, the real or legal persons who give information about any citizen in violation of the freedoms and rights, full legal immunity for victims that information leaked to resort to the prosecution of violating the confidentiality of his private or public.
IX, may order the monitoring of the movement of any citizen to permanently via «» CBS JI is linked to the satellite without recourse to any judicial authorization.
Tenth, allowing the transfer or extradite a person, a US citizen or a non-citizen, to any other State, unlike any specific assets in accordance with international law.
10 «rights» semi divine, granting Obama himself on the final day of last year, the gift of the year, Hidayat for democratic General Sam all over the world. Thus became the holder of the Nobel Peace Prize two years ago, himself holder Saif murder without judgment and spend or authorize. Paradox will then long bones of Alfred Nobel, more of a paradox that is borne of invented dynamite
January 28th, 2012, 3:50 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
SNP is considering offering Qualitative military support to FSA and any other military unit(s) opposed to the Baathist mafia regime and Shia control of Syria and Lebanon. And should we receive a formal invitation or request by March 15, 2012, will consider a cooperation arrangement with SNC. The terms of which will be debated during April-May business meetings.
January 28th, 2012, 3:52 pm
irritated said:
#267 Jad
It seems HBJ’s political amateurism is no match for the Russians.
January 28th, 2012, 4:06 pm
ann said:
Syria expresses regret over Arab decision to halt observer mission – 2012-01-29
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/29/c_131380119.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 28 (Xinhua) — Syria expressed Saturday “regret and astonishment” over the Arab League (AL) decision to suspend its observer mission in Syria, according to state-run SANA news agency.
“It was clear that the observers’ report that affirmed the existence of armed groups in Syria… wasn’t satisfactory for some Arab countries,” SANA quoted an unnamed official source as saying.
The source pointed out that the decision is aimed at imposing more pressure on the United Nations Security Council’s meeting, which is due to convene on Tuesday, encouraging the armed groups to carry out with terrorism and calling for foreign intervention in Syria.
The source reaffirmed Syria’s commitment to making the observer mission a success according to the signed protocol between the AL and Syria and to provide protection to the observers.
The AL decided Saturday to suspend its observer mission in Syria, citing the deteriorating situation in the unrest-torn country and the continuous use of violence.
Head of AL’s monitoring operation room in Cairo, Adnan al- Khodair, told Xinhua that “The AL decided to temporarily suspend its observer mission in Syria to protect observers from increasing violence.”
In a statement issued later, AL chief Nabil al-Arabi asked observers to immediately halt their operation in Syria until the AL ministerial council makes their decision.
Moustafa al-Dabi, head of the AL observer mission in Syria, said in a statement Friday that the wave of violence in Syria had dramatically escalated in recent days, especially in Homs, Idlib and Hama.
The status quo could not create appropriate conditions for achieving the AL ministerial council’s decisions about pushing all parties to sit for negotiations, he added.
Damascus on Sunday rejected a new Arab initiative which urged Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to delegate power to his first vice president.
Syrian Foreign Ministry said Tuesday that Damascus accepted the AL’s request of extending the observer mission in Syria for another month.
The AL observers are currently monitoring the situation in Syria as part of an AL peace initiative to end the months-long turmoil there.
January 28th, 2012, 4:27 pm
Ghat Al Bird said:
The events in Syria as seen by others…..interesting …
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/syrian-observatory-inside-story
January 28th, 2012, 4:36 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: HANS
RE: “…I have not been writing here for a while…”
And here you return, like the proverbial bad penny. Has anyone ever told you what a drag it is to see you?
January 28th, 2012, 4:37 pm
ann said:
Israeli-Palestinian conflict continues despite Arab Spring – January 29, 2012
http://www.abc.net.au/correspondents/content/2012/s3417631.htm
Mitt Romney said, “It’s the Palestinians who don’t want a two-state solution; they want to eliminate the State of Israel”. He said the best way to Middle East peace was not to vacillate and appease. “We will not have an inch of difference between ourselves and our ally Israel,” he said
Not to be outdone, Newt Gingrich was happy to repeat his view that the Palestinians were an invented people, invented in the 1970’s. “Before that,” he said, “they were Arabs”.
He said that on the first day he was president he would move the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem to send a signal that the US was with Israel.
January 28th, 2012, 4:40 pm
jna said:
Report of the Head of the League of Arab States Observer Mission to Syria for the period from 24 December 2011 to 18 January 2012
http://www.innercitypress.com/LASomSyria.pdf
http://www.innercitypress.com/syria2las012812.html
Just posting the link, haven’t read it yet.
January 28th, 2012, 4:41 pm
tarek said:
260. SANDRO LOEWEsaid:
Can we define Assad as a peasant?
3. An uncouth, crude, or ill-bred person; a boor.
Sandro,
He put his foot on your neck for 40 years, do you think he cares what you think,
January 28th, 2012, 4:47 pm
jad said:
إشكالية الملف السوري في مجلس الأمن الدولي
الجمل: سعى خصوم دمشق مراراً وتكراراً خلال العشرة أشهر الماضية لجهة تدويل ملف الحدث الاحتجاجي السياسي السوري عن طريق مجلس الأمن الدولي، والآن، وبرغم إخفاق المحاولات الماضية سعى هؤلاء الخصوم مجدداً إلى مجلس الأمن، وهذه المرة عبر نافذة جامعة الدول العربية، فما هي حسابات التحركات الجديدة، وما هو البديل الذي يحاول خبراء مراكز الدراسات السياسية والاستراتيجية الأمريكية الدفع باتجاهه إذا أخفقت هذه المحاولة؟
* مجلس الأمن الدولي: إشكالية الملف السوري
بدأت بعثة المراقبين العرب فعاليات عملها في سوريا، وأكملت شهراً كاملاً في عمليات الرصد والمراقبة، وتم تمديد فترة عملها لشهر إضافي، وذلك على أساس أن تكمل مهامها وترفع تقريرها النهائي لأمانة جامعة الدول العربية. وما كان مثيراً للاهتمام تمثل في قيام جامعة الدول العربية، وعلى عجل، وقبل أن تكمل بعثة المراقبين عملها وترفع تقريرها، بإصدار قرار إعلان مبادرة عربية جديدة، ثم رفعها فوراً إلى مجلس الأمن الدولي، وذلك قبل أن تكتمل المشاورات والتفاهمات بين الأطراف المعنية بالشأن السوري حول مدى جدوى هذه المبادرة ؟!
تقول المعلومات والتقارير بأن موسكو قد حددت بشكل قاطع موقفها لجهة وصف بنود المبادرة الجديدة، وذلك ضمن توصيفات تقول:
• إن المبادرة لا تنسجم مع المبادرة الروسية.
• إن المبادرة لا تصلح بشكلها الحالي لجهة حل أزمة الملف الاحتجاجي السوري.
• إن المبادرة تخاطب طرفاً واحداً هو سلطات دمشق، وليس المعارضة.
• إن المبادرة بشكلها الحالي يمكن أن يتم أخذها في الاعتبار لجهة المزيد من المناقشات والحوارات بما يتيح تعديلها وإعادة ضبط بنودها.
أضافت المعلومات والتقارير قائلة: بأن وضعية الإصطفاف والاستقطابات داخل مجلس الأمن الدولي سوف تظل كما هي: روسيا والصين تقفان ضد المبادرة العربية، وأمريكا وفرنسا وبريطانيا تقفان إلى جانب المبادرة، وبالنسبة لبقية الدول الأخرى غير الدائمة العضوية، فمواقفها: ألمانيا إلى جانب المبادرة، وبقية الدول الثمانية الأخرى لم تحدد موقفها بعد، وعلى الأغلب أن يتضح ذلك خلال المناقشات والتفاهمات الجارية حالياً، والتي بدأت منذ مساء أمس الأول الخميس 26 كانون الثاني (يناير) 2012.
* مخطط استهداف دمشق: ماذا بقي من بنك الأهداف؟
عندما اندلعت شرارة الحدث الاحتجاجي السياسي السوري ازدادت حيوية خصوم دمشق، وبدا واضحاً أن جعبتهم كانت مليئة بالسهام، وذلك على أساس اعتبارات أن مفاعيل دومينو الاحتجاجات السياسية العربية سوف تتيح وعلى وجه السرعة إنفاذ سيناريو انهيار دمشق، وفي هذا الخصوص يمكن استعراض الآتي:
• خيار فرض منطقة حظر الطيران: تم تحديد أربع مناطق مبدئياً لجهة فرض حظر الطيران ولكن هذا الخيار لم ينجح بسبب عدم قدرة المعارضة على السيطرة على أي واحدة من المناطق التي تم تحديدها.
• خيار المنطقة العازلة: تم تحديد منطقة شمال سوريا المتاخمة للحدود مع تركيا لجهة إقامة منطقة عازلة، ولكن هذا الخيار لم ينجح بسبب عدم قدرة المعارضة لجهة السيطرة عليها، إضافة إلى عدم وجود العدد الكافي من اللاجئين والنازحين الذي يوفر المبررات اللازمة إضافة إلى تردد تركيا.
• خيار الملاذات الآمنة: تم تحديد ثلاثة مناطق لجهة إقامة ملاذات آمنة للسكان المدنيين فيها، ولكن هذا الخيار لم ينجح أيضاً بسبب عدم قدرة المعارضة، إضافة إلى تردد دول الجوار الإقليمي، وعدم كفاية الأعداد المطلوبة من النازحين.
• خيارات الممرات الآمنة: تم تحديد أربعة مناطق لجهة إقامة ممرات آمنة لتوصيل المساعدات، ولكن هذا الخيار لم ينجح أيضاً لأنه يتطلب المزيد من التكاليف إضافة إلى إرسال القوات.
هذا، وإضافة لذلك، فقد ظلت أطراف مثلث واشنطن ـ باريس ـ لندن، إضافة إلى محور الرياض ـ الدوحة، إضافة إلى أنقرا، أكثر اهتماماً باستخدام:
ـ آلية العقوبات الاقتصادية لجهة رفع وتائر المعاناة والضغوط الاقتصادية.
ـ آلية العقوبات الدبلوماسة، لجهة القيام بإنفاذ مخطط عزل دمشق عن منظومة المعاملات والتفاعلات الدولية والإقليمية.
وبرغم زخم الضغوط الإعلامية والسياسية، فإن حجم الفعاليات الاحتجاجية السياسية السورية ظل محدوداً، مع ملاحظة وجود تصعيد رأسي لجهة التحول باتجاه التركيز على العمل المسلح كبديل للعمل السياسي، ومع ذلك، فإن التصعيد الأفقي الذي يؤدي إلى تزايد نطاق جغرافية الاحتجاجات لم يحقق النجاح المطلوب.
تشير المعطيات الجارية إلى أن بنك أهداف خصوم دمشق قد بدا بحلول مطلع هذا الشهر وهو في حالة استنفاد لمخزوناته، وفي هذا الخصوص نشير إلى الآتي:
• السيناريو المصري: لم يعد ممكناً بسبب عدم وجود الإجماع الداخلي المصري لدمشق، إضافة إلى حصول دمشق على المزيد من الدعم والسند الشعبي.
• السيناريو الليبي: لم يعد ممكناًَ، وذلك بسبب عدم قدرة المعارضة على احتلال أي منطقة والسيطرة عليها بحيث تصلح كقاعدة للانطلاق، على غرار ما حدث في منطقة بنغازي الليبية.
• السيناريو اليمني: لم يعد ممكناً، وبرغم أن محور الرياض ـ الدوحة قد سعى لتقديم مبادرة تسعى لإنفاذ سيناريو تغيير النظام بالوسائل السياسية على غرار ما حدث في اليمن، فإن العقبة الرئيسية تمثلت في أن المعارضة اليمنية ظلت موجودة وتمارس فعالياتها في الداخل بعكس المعارضة السورية التي ظلت منقسمة وتمارس فعالياتها من الخارج.
تقول المعلومات بأن مجلس الأمن الدولي سوف ينهمك خلال الأيام القادمة لجهة التفاهم حول ثلاثة معطيات، هي: ورقة مشروع القرار الفرنسي ـ البريطاني ـ ورقة المبادرة العربية ـ إضافة إلى ورقة المبادرة الروسية، وعلى الأغلب أن يصل المجلس إلى نقطة الانطلاق، أو أن يتم إقرار مشروع قرار ينسجم مع بنود ورقة المبادرة الروسية، وبكلمات أخرى فإن إقرار ورقة المبادرة العربية وورقة مشروع القرار الفرنسي ـ البريطاني هو غير ممكن وذلك بسبب معارضة روسيا والصين، وفي نفس الوقت نفسه فإن إقرار ورقة المبادرة الروسية هو أيضاً أمر غير ممكن، وذلك لأنها تؤكد حرفياً على ماسبق وظلت المعارضة السورية ترفضه، وظلت أيضاً أطراف خط الدوحة ـ الرياض ـ واشنطن ـ لندن ـ باريس أكثر رفضاً له.
وتأسيساً على ذلك، تقول المعلومات والتسريبات بأن مراكز الدراسات السياسية والاستراتيجية الأمريكية، تبذل قصارى جهدها لجهة إعداد مخطط لعملية تدخل دولية، تستند على مبررات المسؤولية عن حماية السكان المدنيين، وإذا كان وضع المخططات على الورق سهلاً، فإن من الصعوبة بمكان إنفاذها ميدانياً على الأرض، وذلك بسبب عدم القدرة على بناء إجماع دولي يضم الدول الخمسة دائمة العضوية في مجلس الأمن الدولي (أمريكا ـ فرنسا ـ بريطانيا ـ روسيا ـ الصين)، إضافة إلى عدم قابلية المسرح السوري لجهة الترحيب بأي عملية تدخل خارجي دولي..
الجمل ـ قسم الدراسات والترجمة
http://www.aljaml.com/node/80577
January 28th, 2012, 5:00 pm
Tara said:
Sandro,
By calling Besho the criminal a peasant, we are insulting real peasants. Knowing Besho’s family, I think a better term would be a slave. Reign of slaves it is. Some historians and philosophers did study slaves in power.
January 28th, 2012, 5:01 pm
zoo said:
“We don’t accept an Islamic government or a Muslim Brotherhood-led government. We will refuse that very firmly.”
Syrian Kurd Leader: Revolution Won’t Succeed Without Minorities
By Michael Weiss
Jan 20 2012, 7:15 AM ET 4
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/01/syrian-kurd-leader-revolution-wont-succeed-without-minorities/251660/?single_page=true
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If the revolution in Syria is to have any chance at success, the Syrian Kurds will mostly likely play a major role.
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Dr. Abdulhakim Bashar is the Secretary-General of the Kurdish Democratic Party of Syria — the sister party to Massoud Barzani’s Iraqi counterpart — as well as the Chairman of the Kurdish National Council (KNC), a newly formed umbrella organisation representing ten Syrian-Kurdish parties.
What’s your relationship like with the Syrian National Council [the aspiring government-in-exile]?
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All Syrian Kurdish groups decided in Irbil in October to freeze any participation of Kurdish groups in the SNC. This applies to all Kurdish parties, from the Damascus Declaration on, and will continue until and unless the SNC listen to our demands. My party, the Kurdish Democratic Party, had an SNC member: we actually froze his membership before the conference in Syria that formed the KNC.
Of course, we cannot stop individual Kurds from participating in the SNC, although I suspect that as time goes on and nothing changes, they too will freeze their membership or quit altogether.
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If the SNC fully recognizes the Kurdish Bill of Rights, we will join the SNC fully. Because we are very concerned that the SNC is so much influenced by Turkey now, they may postpone guaranteeing our rights until after the regime falls. Therefore we ask for a recognition of these rights in order to become a draft for a new constitution.
So you want a written guarantee from the SNC?
We want a guarantee written and published internationally. The important thing to realize is that if we get our full rights, Turkey will be obliged to grant full rights to Turkey’s Kurdish population. If the Kurds were to get recognition in the Syrian constitution, Turkey will give similar if not more rights to the Kurds in Turkey. Syria is the key player.
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The SNC has not been recognized by world governments, apart from Libya’s, as the sole legitimate representative of the Syrian people. If it were, would you be more willing to join?
If the international community recognized the SNC at this stage, that would be a very quick decision. It still represents only one side of the Syrian opposition, it doesn’t include Kurds as Kurds. We are united and we have agreements. If we were to join the SNC fully, we’d do so from a unified political standpoint on this issue.
Is the KNC all in for regime change or are you entertaining a possible reconciliation with the Assad regime?
We are part of this revolution, we are not neutral. One of the main points in the KNC statement is that we don’t want the present dictatorship and we refuse to accept any future dictatorships. We don’t accept an Islamic government or a Muslim Brotherhood-led government. We will refuse that very firmly.
We have also decided not to have any dialog with the regime separately from the Syrian opposition. For example, if the international community decided all the opposition groups had to have a dialog with the regime, we’d support that, in case the current regime asks for negotiations for a transition of power, just like in Yemen. But that’s unlikely.
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Yes. It’s not just about Kurds, however. Arabs, Druze, Ismailis, Alawites, Christians have been ignored by the SNC, which is responsible for these minorities failure to participate as united communities in the revolution. Also, if the SNC says that Local Coordination Committees are very active in the SNC, I’d like to add that the Committees have very little participation of Alawites and Druze; only the elites of these communities are involved in them.
In my opinion, Syrian Alawites would not accept working in a central government with Sunnis because the regime has succeeded in sowing fear amongst [Alawites].
This is why we ask for political de-centralization in Syria. The regime has succeeded in convincing minorities that any change would mean a new Islamic system coming to power and the rights of these minorities would be lost completely. In order for the SNC to convince minorities to take part in the revolution and hasten the fall of the regime, it must send a clear message to these minorities to participate. Transitioning to democracy in such a country is very difficult; it can’t happen in one day. You have to give guarantees and assurances to each minority as these fit their rights and benefits.
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Are there enough liberal representatives in the SNC to alter its approach to the minorities question?
The liberals are not enough to influence the SNC. That’s also our responsibility as Kurds. It’s the international community’s responsibility to pressure the SNC, and the Muslim Brotherhood, to guarantee the rights of minorities. And also — most important — for the international community to pressure Turkey not to take one side of the opposition over all others.
The Kurds are Syria’s largest minority, larger even than the Alawites. Would it be fair to say that there is no Syrian revolution without their full and wholehearted participation?
We are more organized and recognized as a society within Syria and other Arab countries than other minorities. If we do participate more actively, other minorities will feel more assured and follow suit. The regime has tried to convince the world that the conflict is between them and the Arab Sunnis. We want to prove that wrong. The revolution is not sectarian but it is being threatened by sectarian interests.
January 28th, 2012, 5:08 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
277. tareksaid:
260. SANDRO LOEWEsaid:
Can we define Assad as a peasant?
3. An uncouth, crude, or ill-bred person; a boor.
Sandro,
He put his foot on your neck for 40 years, do you think he cares what you think,
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No he does not, and his Alawites are proud of this fact, but when the FSA leader and other Syrian Revolution militant puts their feet on his face and those of his Alawites comrades and Shia supporters, Syrians will remember what he and the Shia thought of Syrians under his feet for 40 years. At that time he too will remember a buddy of his how he felt in his last hours, Kaddafi.
January 28th, 2012, 5:10 pm
Aldendeshe said:
@TARA
They are in fact, and many who helped them are MAMLUK, an Arabic term means SLAVE. Whenever someone in the Middle East named MAMLUK for a family name (surname), it denotes decadency from the Egyptian MAMLUK rule that inherited control of the Levant.
January 28th, 2012, 5:15 pm
Norman said:
Tara,
so you think that they Alawat were enslaved before they joined the Baath party that gave them equal opportunity and liberated them ,
Dandashy,
We are all created equal with the rights to pursue freedom and happiness,
January 28th, 2012, 5:21 pm
zoo said:
More on Syrian Kurds views
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Dr Abdulhakim Bashar also favours a secular constitution which separates religion from the constitution and could see the election of a Christian as president as well as enshrining women’s rights. He is deeply concerned by the lack of clarity in the Sunni-dominated Syrian National Council’s plans which talks unconvincingly about what it calls a civil society option.
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http://www.progressonline.org.uk/2012/01/27/turbulent-times-for-kurds-in-syria/
January 28th, 2012, 5:32 pm
Aldendeshe said:
“……..We are all created equal with the rights to pursue freedom and happiness,…”
And that is how the Baathists and Shia Alawites and Mamluks treated 22 million Syrians? Have they not denied the Syrians all that you mentioned, have they not treated Syrians with disdain and considered them way less that equal, have they not tortured and murdered anyone that thought he or she should be treated as equal with the Baathists or Alawites?. Have they allowed millions of Syrians to have freedom and peruse happiness? OK NORMAN, you are fair man, so I tell you what, will treat the bastards the way they treated Syrians, nothing more. How is that, fair enough? You do know that justice will prevail, inequity will be settled.
January 28th, 2012, 5:39 pm
ann said:
‘US Bunker-Busters Can’t Destroy Some Iran Nuke Plants’ – 28 January 2012
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/130671/-39-us-bunker-busters-can-39-t-destroy-some-iran-nuke-plants-39-.html
Even the heaviest US bombs are not powerful enough to destroy some of Iran’s more fortified nuclear facilities, the Wall Street Journal quoted US officials as saying Friday. The Pentagon is taking steps to improve its “bunker-busting” capabilities, they added.
The US’s 30,000-pound (13,600 kilo) “Mass Ordnance Penetrator” (MOP) was specifically designed to be able to take out Iranian and North Korean nuclear facilities. According to the report, initial tests indicated that the bomb would be incapable of performing these tasks, either because of the depth of the facilities or their recent reinforcement.
January 28th, 2012, 6:06 pm
ann said:
Report: Media Freedom Declines in Turkey – Saturday, 28 January 2012
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/130670/report-media-freedom-declines-in-turkey-.html
In October 2002, when it released its first global assessment of media freedom, Turkey tied with Jordan for 99th place.
Nine years later it sits at 148th out of 179 countries, falling between Malawi and Mexico, in a major backslide as Turkey follows a path towards democratization.
“At a time when it is portraying itself as a regional model, Turkey took a big step backwards and lost ten places,” the RWB noted. “Far from carrying out promised reforms, the judicial system launched a wave of arrests of journalists that was without precedent since the military dictatorship.”
January 28th, 2012, 6:13 pm
mjabali said:
Stale Andersen:
You have no clue as always. We are talking about the usage of the word “Peasant” in this Syrian context. Of course you can add nothing of historical value or relevance to the subject.
Above all of that you are talking about bitch slapping and so forth: dude get a life. You are watching too much Telemundo.
Being impolite while you are sitting on your big ass is an example of your petty life and logic.
January 28th, 2012, 6:14 pm
mjabali said:
Mr: الاغا الدندشي
You belong to the stone ages and I wish for a time travel machine to send you back.
The way you talk about the Alawis and the Shia reflects deep troubles and I advise with medical help.
The travesty in the matter is that you claim to speak in the Name of the Syrian National Party, a party the Alawis were in way before you as a matter of fact. As a matter of fact also, the Alawis paid in blood for the SNP and were in it way more than they were in al-Baath. This a fact. Remember the 1950’s for example, there was more Alawis in the SNP than in al-Baath.
Go read the history of your party and come and talk to me about men like Ghassan Jadid for example.
As for the slaves, we all know that those who owned most of the land in Syria through the Ottomans were originally Slaves bought to become soldiers and horsemen in the Ottoman army and ended up owning land with all of its inhabitants. Go read the list of those who ruled Syria from the days of your uncle Ibn Taymiyah and see how all of them were mostly slaves and those who owned the large swath of lands in Syria were slaves to begin with.
So, if your grandfather was a slave then became a soldier in the Ottoman army then retired to become a landowner and an official in the land of the Syrians, we end up with you calling your self Agha like you did on few occasions.
PS: When I was mentioning the problem with the way mr. Revelon was using the word “Peasant” we both were referring to the country side Syrian farmers who were in the funeral of a Syrian killed. Those people are not Alawis, which mean if we cross this fact against your post we find that you have no clue mr. Agha.
January 28th, 2012, 6:25 pm
jad said:
A strong speech by Aljafari, the Syrian Ambasador to the UN:
Jafari Syria Will Not Be Somalia
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=262313220506538
January 28th, 2012, 6:36 pm
jad said:
MBs council is sending its delegations to request international intervention and since they don’t have enough enemies, they add Russia to the list of Iraq, Iran, Lebanon and Algeria, befor they curse Iran a bit more..all these in the same day they need Russia support, how smart! I bet it’s Zibaleh suggestion:
وفد من “المجلس الوطني السوري” فى نيويورك لطلب التدخل الخارجي
أعلن المجلس الوطنى السورى المعارض، السبت، أن وفدا برئاسة رئيسه برهان غليون سيكون الأحد فى نيويورك لمطالبة مجلس الأمن الدولى بتأمين “حماية دولية” للمدنيين السوريين، كما اتهم إيران بـ”المساهمة فى قتل” السوريين، ودعا إلى التظاهر أمام السفارات الروسية فى العالم.
وقال المجلس فى بيان تلاه سمير نشار، عضو المجلس الوطنى السورى، أمام الصحفيين إنه “قرر التوجه إلى مجلس الأمن الدولى غدا الأحد، من خلال وفد برئاسة برهان غليون لعرض قضية الشعب السورى على مجلس الأمن ومطالبته بتأمين الحماية الدولية للمدنيين”.
وفى أعنف موقف له ضد نظام الجمهورية الإسلامية فى إيران أعلن المجلس الوطنى أنه “يستنكر مساهمة النظام الإيرانى فى قتل المواطنين السوريين المطالبين بالحرية ويدعوه إلى التوقف عن المشاركة فى قمع الثورة السورية، حرصا على مستقبل العلاقات بين الشعبين”.
وفى موقف مرتبط برفض روسيا المتواصل للموافقة على مشروع قرار فى مجلس الأمن دعا المجلس الوطنى “جميع المواطنين السوريين فى جميع بلدان الاغتراب إلى التضامن مع شعبهم بالداخل احتجاجا على الموقف الروسى عبر الاعتصام أمام سفارات قنصليات روسيا الاتحادية وأمام مراكز الأمم المتحدة غدا، الأحد، الساعة الثانية بعد الظهر فى أماكن تواجدهم”.
ومقابل الهجوم على إيران وروسيا أعلن المجلس الوطنى أنه “يتوجه بجزيل الشكر إلى السعودية وقطر وسائر دول مجلس التعاون الخليجى والمغرب وباقى الدول العربية الشقيقة التى تسعى من خلال مواقفها إلى مساعدة الشعب السورى ووقف سفك الدماء”.
كما دعا المجلس الوطنى مؤسسات الأمم المتحدة إلى تقديم المساعدة إلى المدن السورية التى تشهد أعمال عنف دامية ارتفعت حدتها كثيرا خلال الأيام القليلة الماضية.
وتوجه البيان بالشكر “إلى كافة أطراف المجتمع الدولى التى تسعى إلى مناصرة قضايا الحرية والديموقرطية وحقوق الإنسان فى سوريا، مطالبين جميع مؤسسات الأمم المتحدة بالعمل على تقديم المساعدات الإنسانية والاغاثية للمدن السورية المنكوبة “حمص وحماه وإدلب وريف دمشق ودرعا ودير الزور”.
وكانت بلدان الخليج وتركيا حثت دمشق على قبول مبادرة الجامعة العربية لوقف إراقة الدماء “دون إرجاء”، وهى تنطوى على نقل للسلطة من الأسد إلى نائبه فى غضون شهرين. ورفضت سوريا الخطة معتبرة إياها تدخلا سافرا فى شئونها الداخلية.
ومن المقرر أن يعقد مجلس الأمن اجتماعا خاصا لمناقشة الوضع فى سوريا يوم الثلاثاء المقبل.
ويتوجه الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربى الأحد إلى نيويورك مع رئيس الوزراء وزير الخارجية القطرى الشيخ حمد بن جاسم بتفويض من الجامعة العربية لإبلاغ الأمين العام للأمم المتحدة بان كى مون بالمبادرة العربية الأخيرة لحل الأزمة فى سوريا وطلب دعمه لها.
January 28th, 2012, 6:55 pm
Alan said:
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/pentagon-wants-commando-mothership-in.html
Saturday, January 28, 2012
Pentagon wants commando “mothership” in Middle East
January 28th, 2012, 7:00 pm
Pirouz said:
Regarding the five captured Iranian “Revolutionary Guards” in Syria (reposted from a comment elsewhere):
1- The pictures shown match the Iranian engineers abducted over a month ago in Syria, rather than “revolutionary guards.”
2- Reason for making them wear black clothes is to make them appear more like Hezbollah members or IRGC members.
3) A rifle is placed in between them to make them look like fighters; why they should be seating next to a rifle when confessing on their aged crimes.
4) The claims about a “lack of visas” and secretly entering Syria are funny, considering that Iran and Syria removed visas requirements for travel over a year ago.
5) Another funny part was showing the abductees passports, why should members of Hezbollah and IRGC if on a secret mission in Syria or anywhere else should or would carry passport and indemnification of any kind with them. Specially deploying forces that apparently can’t even speak the local language and need translators.
6- Is the claim that since their passports was signed by an police officer then they are members of military. All Iranian passports are signed and stamped by chief of police or his deputy.
January 28th, 2012, 7:03 pm
Ghufran said:
Libya is now a failed state with dozens of local militias and no unified government or army.
The alliance that brought Libya to this stage is acting like this is a ” Libyan problem” while Libyan money is bing used to prop bankrupt western governments.
Every time western governments meddle in middle eastern affairs they change a bad situation into a disaster,that is what happened in Palestine,Iraq,Libya,Sudan, and now they are looking at Syria.
The blood shed must stop at any cost becuse the alterntive is a bloody civil war and a defacto partition of Syria. The coastal region in particular is at high risk of being the first to declare autonomy or separation. Reports from that region are very worrisome,people are buying food and gas in bulk,weapons are plentiful ,and thousands of Syria’s elite soldiers and officers are getting ready for a plan-B if the violence gets out of control.
This is the first time since March that I find myself unable to ignore ” rumors” about a doomsday scenario,time is actually running out now,this makes most of our posts irrelevant,this is not about the brutal regime that needs to change,it is about the country most of you love being ready to fall apart.
January 28th, 2012, 7:05 pm
Alan said:
قطر تشتري أصول تونسية
January 28th, 2012, 7:12 pm
Tara said:
Syria regime ‘using’ PKK, dissident says
ISTANBUL – Hürriyet Daily News
Syria’s former ambassador to Sweden, Mohammad Bassam Imadi gestures during a news conference in Istanbul December 15, 2011. REUTERS Photo
İpek Yezdaniipek.yezdani@hurriyet.com.tr
The Syrian wing of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) is being used against Syrian protesters calling for an overthrow of the government and could soon be deployed against Turkey, according to several Syrian opposition figures.
The Democratic Union Party (PYD), the PKK’s Syrian branch, is currently acting in concert with the Syrian regime to suppress protesters, Mohammad Bassam Imadi, an opposition figure who was Damascus’ former envoy to Sweden, told the Hürriyet Daily News yesterday.
The claim was echoed by a high-ranking member of the opposition Syrian National Council, as well as the head of the likeminded Syrian National Alliance.
Imadi said Salih Muslim Muhammed, who has been PYD leader since 2010, was not allowed to enter Syria before but had now been allowed to return to the Arab republic.
“I told Salih Muslim that he had been enemies with the regime in the past and asked him how he was allowed to operate in Syria now. He told me that the PYD had never been enemies with the Syrian regime,” Imadi said, adding that he now understood Damascus was using the group against anti-government demonstrators.
“PYD leaders [also] told me that if Turkey intervenes in Syria, they would fight against Turkey,” Imadi said.
“The Syrian regime uses the PYD militants as part of the Shabiha forces, which act as the shadowy militia of the regime that assists in its brutal crackdown,” Imadi said.
Salah Eldin Bilal, a Kurdish-Syrian opposition member who escaped from the Syrian regime 15 years ago and has since been living in Germany, corroborated Imadi’s claims, saying the Syrian regime had so many cards in his hands that it could use them against the other countries in the region.
“They can use some parts of the Kurdish movement against Turkey as they have used them before. However, as Syrian Kurds, we shouldn’t be used against any other country, we want all Syrian people to be together,” he said.
The PKK is listed as a terrorist organization by Turkey and much of the international
community.
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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria-regime-using-pkk-dissident-says.aspx?pageID=238&nID=12320&NewsCatID=338
January 28th, 2012, 7:23 pm
Alan said:
New U.N. draft resolution gives Syria 15 days to comply!
True Conservative
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This bullshit draft resolution will go directly into the waste basket as Russia and China will veto it. So that this time no fresh blood for our criminal Washington freaks which deliberately organized, armed and keep sponsoring so called Syrian “rebels” and purposely keep destabilizing their country.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/New_U.N._draft_resolution_gives_Syria_15_days_to_comply/17632/0/38/38/Y/M.html
January 28th, 2012, 7:29 pm
Norman said:
Tara,
So it seems , not an Alawy/Sunni conflict, it seems like it is the Islamist and the Muslim brotherhood on one side and everybody else on the other side, now the Sunni Kurds joined the government ,
January 28th, 2012, 7:49 pm
Alan said:
NATO’s Grisly Crimes In Libya
http://www.herald.co.zw/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32489:natos-grisly-crimes-in-libya&catid=39:opinion-a-analysis&Itemid=132
January 28th, 2012, 7:49 pm
Tara said:
The suspension of the AL’ mission is a slap on the face to Mr. Moualem who announced the grand finale of the security option and to his boss.
Syria Hits Out At Arab League Over Mission
1:04pm 28th January 2012.
Syria has hit out at the Arab League after it suspended its monitoring mission, saying it is an attempt to influence the United Nations Security Council.
The claim was made by Syrian state television, which added: “This will have a negative impact and put pressure on (Security Council) deliberations with the aim of calling for foreign intervention and encouraging armed groups to increase violence.”
The Arab League announced it was suspending its mission to Syria following its submission of a new draft resolution to the UN Security Council.
League Secretary-General Nabil el Araby said the move was made as a result of increasing violence, which activists claim has seen close to 200 deaths in the last few days alone.
Earlier, the Syrian government said it was “sorry and surprised” that the League had suspended its activities.
In an interview with Sky News, Syrian activist Danny Abdul Dayem said that Homs was “expecting a big attack” following the observer withdrawal from the city.
He said the army had already started shelling the Bab Amr district of Homs, claiming that “more than 70 rounds of bombings and shellings” had hit.
“They were killing slowly when the observers were here, but now they are killing faster,” he said.
“The monitors have not been helping that much. Every single area the monitors visit, the Syrian army hides.”
He claimed that the monitors “gave the regime more time to kill” because regime operatives would return after observers had left to “kidnap, kill and shoot at protesters”.
“We don’t care who comes and helps us. We want anyone to come and help us,” he said.
“We will continue to the end. If this revolution is going to stop, they are going to have to kill all the civilians. It is something we started and we are going to have to finish it. We are not going to live under this criminal.”
In his harshest criticism yet, Mr el Araby said the regime has “resorted to escalating the military option in complete violation of (its) commitments” to end the crackdown.
He said the victims of the violence have been “innocent citizens,” rejecting Syria’s claims that it is fighting “terrorists”.
The League’s deputy chief, Ahmed Ben Heli, said around 100 observers still in Syria have stopped their work and are staying in their Damascus hotel until the League’s council can meet to decide the operation’s fate.
The news comes as Gulf Arab states and Turkey were due to meet in Istanbul, where they hope to sway international actors into supporting further action through a new Security Council resolution.
The summit follows the Arab League’s announcement last week that Syrian President Bashar al Assad should allow his deputy to take the reins.
Britain, which crafted the resolution with France after consultation from Qatar, Morocco, Germany and the US, emphasised its commitment to the resolution.
The UK’s ambassador to the UN, Mark Lyall Grant, said “the time has come” to support the Arab League.
The head of Istanbul-based opposition group the Syrian National Council, Burhan Ghalioun, is to travel to New York to push UN officials into taking tougher action.
But Russia’s UN ambassador Vitaly Churkin said the new Arab and European proposal, which was submitted officially by Morocco for a vote which its supporters hope will take place next week, said the new draft “crosses our red lines”.
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January 28th, 2012, 7:50 pm
Tara said:
Norman
It was never Alawi-Sunni or minorities-majority struggle. Only in the mind of Bashar’s supporters who unfortunately lost their humanities and their judgement ability in the interim. It was a struggle of an oppressed nation against it’s oppressors. It was in my opinion a struggle of human dignity against extreme indecency. That is the simple fact all of you can’t simply accept Norman. As if you to accept it as it is, you would’ve never forgiven yourself. Don’t you think?
January 28th, 2012, 7:59 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
The axis Muqtada Sadr – Assad – Nasrallah has been uncovered. All mafia style procedures they use for trafficking arms, drugs and art is being exposed day after day and worldwide. I do not think these are the kind of people and regimes that can stand for too long.
January 28th, 2012, 8:07 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
If SNC want countries to recognize them, they have to form goverment in exile,they can call the CB to join ,if CB agrees
January 28th, 2012, 8:17 pm
Tara said:
Pirouz
In regard to number 1, Syrians do not believe the 5 kidnapped Iranians were actually engineers. They probably were IRG killing women and children. I am surprised that you and JNA insist to use the picture as an evidence to the contrary. If the picture matches the picture of the alleged engineers, then it is a proof they aren’t engineers but rather Iranian terrorists.
Also, Pirouz, could you do your country men and women a favor and leave a word in the Iranian mission in the US to spread the word to the Iranian people to stay home and not to pursue religious pilgrimage in Syria for the time being. Everyone says Syria is at the brink of civil war. I say Syria is already in civil war (the people against the regime) so people should practice religion in their home for the time being. If a civil war ignited in KSA, i would never think to visit Mecca. I give you my word Allah would understand. Really!
January 28th, 2012, 8:29 pm
Tara said:
Majed
SNC forming a government in exile to be recognized as the only legitimate government of the Syrian people is a grate idea and a logical next step. They should put some effort to contact other opposition figures to be inclusive to all.
Where is Haytham? If he agrees, he may want to write to Mr. Ghalioun. I would vote for Haytham to be part of the government.
January 28th, 2012, 8:37 pm
jad said:
AL is nothing but a useless organization, one of the reasons for the suspension/’freezing’ of the observation mission is Al6ar6our FATWA to kill them and put them in the same mincing machine of the Syrian Alawites…I kid you not!:
الدابى لـ”بوابة الأهرام”: أوضاع المراقبين فى سوريا مطمئنة.. ووقف عملهم مؤقت
“وأوضح الدابي فى تصريحات هاتفية لـ”بوابة الأهرام” من دمشق، أن قرار وقف مهمة البعثة اتخذ فى ضوء الفتوى التى أصدرها الشيخ عدنان العرعور المعارض السورى المقيم بالسعودية، التى أهدر فيها دم أعضاء بعثة مراقبى الجامعة العربية، التى شكلت تهديدًا لأمنهم وسلامتهم، وتصاعد أعمال العنف من الجانبين،الحكومة والجماعات المسلحة، خصوصًا خلال الأيام الأخيرة، إضافة إلى موقف المعارضة السورية الرافض تمامًا، للقرارات التى أصدرها مجلس الجامعة العربية فى اجتماعه مساء الأحد الماضى، على مستوى وزراء الخارجية، وحثهم على نقل ملف الأزمة السورية إلى مجلس الأمن، فضلا عن سفر وفد عربى إلى مجلس الأمن اليوم، مشيرًا إلى أن هذه الأسباب كلها خلقت أجواء نفسية سلبية، لدى المراقبين، مما أثر على مجمل الموقف، ودفع الأمين العام إلى اتخاذ قرار بوقف مهمتهم.”
Here is the Fatwa of the crazy 6ar6our the ‘god’ of some rebels:
العرعور يدعو لطرد المراقبين وفرم وقتل الناس
http://youtu.be/m9XFfDwLW80
العربي: مهمة المراقبين أوقفت ولم تجمد .. والجامعة لن تسحب المراقبين
قال الأمين العام لجامعة الدول العربية نبيل العربي، يوم السبت، إن مهمة المراقبين أوقفت ولم تجمد خوفا على حياتهم، ولفت إلى أن الجامعة لن تسحب المراقبين
ونقلت هيئة الإذاعة البريطانية (BBC)عن العربي قوله ،خلال اتصال هاتفي، إن “مهمة المراقبين أوقفت ولم تجمد خوفا على حياتهم”، موضحا أن “الجامعة لن تسحب المراقبين، وأن بعضهم ما زالوا داخل سوريا وبعضهم مازالوا خارجها”.
وكانت جامعة الدول العربية أعلنت عبر بيان، في وقت سابق اليوم، أنه “تقرر وقف عمل بعثة المراقبين العرب في سورية بسبب تصاعد العنف في البلاد”.
http://syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=143292
January 28th, 2012, 8:42 pm
jad said:
In case some people missed this, KSA won’t recognize the MBs council because they only represent themselves nobody else not because they are not a ‘STATE” and not because they don’t call themselves ‘government’:
سعود الفيصل: لا يمكننا الحديث عن الاعتراف بـ “المجلس الوطني السوري” في هذه الفترة
وقال وزير الخارجية السعودي الأمير سعود الفيصل في مؤتمر صحفي مع نظيره التركي في اسطنبول, “نحن التقينا فعلاً في القاهرة مع “المجلس الوطني السوري” بعد اجتماعهم بأمين عام جامعة الدول العربي نبيل العربي”، مضيفاً “لكن مسألة الاعتراف تكون بين دول، وهذا لا يعني تجاهل المجلس ووجوده، إلا أن الاعتراف كلمة قانونية ولا يمكن أن أتكلّم عن اعتراف او عدم اعتراف في هذه الفترة”.
http://syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=143279
January 28th, 2012, 8:52 pm
ann said:
*** ERDOGAN THE TOOTHLESS PAPER TIGER LIVES UP TO HIS TITLE AGAIN ***
Turkey’s Erdogan lambasts France on genocide law
Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan attacked the French parliament for passing a “discriminatory and racist” bill which makes it illegal to deny the mass killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks nearly a century ago was genocide.
With passions running high in Turkey on French Senate vote, one newspaper denounced the French president as “Satan Sarkozy” and some politicians have already suggested dredging up France’s own colonial history.
However, Erdogan appeared keen to avoid an immediate rupture with Paris, saying there was still hope that NATO ally France “would correct its mistake” and that any retaliatory measures would be held back, depending on French actions.
“We will not allow anyone to gain political benefit at the expense of Turkey; the bill which was passed in France is clearly discriminatory, racist,” Erdogan said.
“We will adopt a rational and dignified stance, we will implement our measures step by step. Right now we are still in a period of patience,” he told parliamentary deputies of his AK Party.
Encouraged by their success in Paris, the influential Armenian diaspora is expected to re-double its efforts in the United States, which like France is in a presidential election year, to have Washington call what happened a genocide.
Many Turks see the French bill, which the lower house of parliament also backed in December, as an insult to their nation, a travesty of history and an infringement on free speech.
As Erdogan spoke, a couple of hundred protesters gathered outside the French embassy in Ankara and consulate in Istanbul in peaceful demonstrations.
The bill now goes to President Nicolas Sarkozy to be ratified. Mostly Muslim Turkey accuses Sarkozy of trying to win the votes of 500,000 ethnic Armenians in France in the two-round presidential vote on April 22 and May 6.
Turkey, a member of NATO and the World Trade Organization, may be limited in its response by its international obligations. However, newspapers listed possible measures that Ankara might take against France.
These included recalling its ambassador from Paris and telling the French ambassador to go home, reducing diplomatic ties to charge d’affaires level, and closing Turkish airspace and waters to French military aircraft and vessels.
Speaking shortly before Monday’s Senate vote, Erdogan said the issue of future official visits to France would be thrown into uncertainty if it passed the bill.
French firms stand to lose out in bids for defense contracts and other mega-projects such as nuclear power stations.
Turkey may also seek to press allegations that French actions in Algeria in the 1950s and 1960s during the North African country’s independence struggle, amounted to genocide.
However, Armenian President Serzh Sarksyan sent a grateful letter to Sarkozy.
“This is a historic day for the Armenians all over the world – in Armenia, in France, everywhere,” he wrote. “This is an unforgettable day, and it will be inscribed in gold into the centuries-long history of the Armenian and French peoples.”
“SATAN SARKOZY”
Morning headlines in Turkish newspapers were anything but calm. “A guillotine to free thought” said Star, while Aksam described the French move as “A guillotine to history.”
January 28th, 2012, 8:52 pm
newfolder said:
an operation by the FSA to take out a security forces sniper who was killing civilians in Bayada Homs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bcwEF9xUyk
January 28th, 2012, 8:56 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
there are three things that Russia wants from the west
1) wants to continue to have its base in Tartous to be used by the Russian navy , along with keeping their interests in Syria.
2) wants to strike a deal with the west,such as missiles in Europe and control of Georgia,Serbia.
3) wants to avoid the Arab spring to reach Russia.
Russia has a lot of investments in Syria, and has many spies,and loyalist such as Qadri Jamil.
In addition US considers Bashar illegitimate,but Israel support the syrian regime,Israel is afraid of the future goverment in Syria, and so far US has not gotten any concession from SNC.
US will loose a lot of credibilty if US does not move soon to help the syrian people.Russia knows that.
January 28th, 2012, 9:00 pm
Ghufran said:
Russia is probably willing to talk about Bashar but my not accept a total remake of the regime because the new proposed leadership has Islamic tendency and is closer to the west than to Russia.
كيف نشتري الفيتو الروسي؟! Sat 28 Jan 2012 – 11:12:00 AM
المحطة الثانية بعد الامم المتحدة التي يفترض ان يتوجه اليها الشيخ حمد بن جاسم والدكتور نبيل العربي هي موسكو التي تتخذ موقفاً قوياً يعارض كل مشاريع القرارات في مجلس الامن ضد النظام السوري.
كان واضحاً منذ البداية ان موسكو لن تتصرف في سوريا كما تصرفت في ليبيا حيث خسرت عقود تسليح قيمتها اربعة مليارات دولار وورثت علاقة سيئة مع النظام الجديد بعد سقوط القذافي. وعلى امتداد عشرة اشهرعرقلت موسكو الحلول بعناد صلب، سياسياً عبر التلويح بالفيتو في مجلس الامن ومنع صدور اي قرار ضد نظام الاسد، وعسكرياً بارسال حاملة الطائرات “كوزنتسوف” الى طرطوس وابرام عقد قبل ايام لتزويد دمشق عدداً من المقاتلات.
تنتاب روسيا مخاوف سياسية واقتصادية وجيواستراتيجية من اي تغيير دراماتيكي يسقط نظام الاسد، ولكن عندما تخلى سيرغي لافروف عن لغته الخشبية بعد محادثاته مع احمد داود اوغلو قبل يومين وقال: “نحن منفتحون على اي اقتراحات بناءة تنسجم مع المهمة المحددة بانهاء العنف”، إستنتج البعض ان موسكو تستدرج العروض المطمئنة والبديلة من نظام الاسد، والتي تأمل بالحصول عليها لتزيل عوائقها من امام الضغوط لتغيير كامل في سوريا.
سياسياً: يستطيع وفد الجامعة العربية الى الامم المتحدة بالتنسيق مع المجلس الوطني السوري تقديم ضمانات جدية وملزمة بأن العلاقة بين اي نظام جديد في دمشق وموسكو ستبقى حارة وودية وانه لن يتم انهاء النفوذ الروسي وإهمال المصالح الروسية هناك.
اقتصادياً: تحتاج روسيا الى وعود ملزمة وقاطعة بأنها لن تخسر عقود التسلح المبرمة مع الاسد وقيمتها اربعة مليارات دولار، اضافة الى تطمينات تتعلق بالاستثمارات الروسية في البنى التحتية والطاقة والسياحة والتي بلغت 19,4 مليار دولار قبل عامين. هذه التطمينات يمكن ان تحصل عليها موسكو في سياق اي حل يعطيها ايضاً دوراً في الواجهة الاعلامية على الاقل، لأن فلاديمير بوتين الذي يسعى الى ولاية رئاسية ثانية في حاجة الى ان يظهر للرأي العام انه يعمل لابقاء روسيا لاعباً اساسياً على المسرح الدولي وان لاحلول يمكن ان تمر من دون ان يكون لها دور فيها.
جيوسياسياً: تحتاج روسيا الى عناصر ملموسة تتصل بمستقبل الوضع في سوريا وبلون النظام الجديد. فليس سراً انها تخشى انتقال عدوى الحرب الاهلية إن وقعت في سوريا، الى مقاطعات روسيا عينها في داغستان ومناطق القوقاز الشمالية وهو ما قد يطلق صاعقة داخل مناطق روسية كثيرة.
والسؤال: هل تستطيع الجامعة العربية ومجلس الامن طمأنة موسكو وإزاحة الفيتو الروسي تمهيداً لتزخيم الحلول في سوريا ؟
المصدرالنهار
January 28th, 2012, 9:08 pm
ss said:
شبيحة للأبد لاجل عيوووونك يا أسد
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN2fFwetWGg
We changed bad memories to good ones, I guess.
It breaks my heart that Majed Khaldoon, Tlass, and so on still think that the Assad will fall the coming weekend. lol.
I miss the terrorist friday menues. Did they close the resturant. Are they still serving.
January 28th, 2012, 9:12 pm
Ghufran said:
Japan Tobacco International (JTI), which owns the Silk Cut, Mayfair and Benson & Hedges brands, faces questions over its relationship with a firm associated with Rami Makhlouf, who is subject to European Union and US sanctions.
Documents obtained by the Observer show that on 27 May 2011, JTI’s Middle Eastern distributor, IBCS Trading, dispatched 90 million cigarettes to Syria Duty Free Shops (SDF) Ltd.
January 28th, 2012, 9:16 pm
Ghufran said:
الرياض: أفتى رجل الدين السعودي والباحث في وزارة الأوقاف السعودية عبد العزيز الطريفي، بجواز استخدام البطاقات الائتمانية الإسرائيلة المسروقة لأنها صادرة من بنوك غير مسلمة مشيرا انه لا عصمة الا لبنوك المسلمين.
وقال الطريفي في رده على سؤال لأحد المشاهدين في برنامج تلفزيوني بث على الهواء مباشرة في قناة (الرسالة) الفضائية، إن الحسابات البنكية التي تصدر منها البطاقات الائتمانية المسروقة لا تخلو من حال من اثنين، إما ان تكون صادرة من بنوك معصومة كحال بنوك المسلمين او الدول المعاهدة التي بينها وبين دول الاسلام سلام، وفي هذه الحالة لا يجوز لأي انسان ان يأخذ المال الا بحقه.
اما في حال عدم وجود عهود ولا مواثيق بين دول الاسلام وغيرهم من الدول، اذا ليست دول مسالمة وعندئذ يكون من جهة الأصل مالهم في ذلك مباح ولا حرج على الانسان أن يستعمل البطاقات المسروقة سواء ما يتعلق منها في اسرائيل، وما يلحق بها من الدول ان وجد مما لا يوجد بينها، وبين دول الاسلام او غيرها من الدول الاسلاميه الاخرى شيء من العهد والميثاق حينئذ نقول انه يجوز للانسان ان يستعمل ذلك ان وجده متاحاً.
January 28th, 2012, 9:43 pm
Observer said:
Here JADY the boy president himself to save his skin and his clan is willing to give the Kurds autonomy and indepdendence. I posted before that there is absolutely no reason to stay in artificial countries where the very notion of citizenship is so weak that now even Russia thinks in terms of the Assad “family” turf and wants the wonder to stay in power.
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/49033
January 28th, 2012, 9:50 pm
irritated said:
Tara and Majed
The pathetic SNC a government in exile? They can’t even be recognized as a valid opposition organization by more than a couple of countries.
January 28th, 2012, 9:53 pm
ann said:
Israel’s greatest intelligence challenge is Netanyahu – 29.01.12
As the U.S. warns Israel against striking Iran, no one knows precisely what the prime minister is thinking.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/israel-s-greatest-intelligence-challenge-is-netanyahu-1.409736
This week U.S. President Barack Obama told Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in no uncertain diplomatic terms that he ought not dare to attack Iran.
The goal, said Obama, is to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. Lest there be any doubt, Obama promised once again to consider every possible mode of action – including military action. “But,” said Obama, “a peaceful resolution of this issue is still possible, and far better.”
January 28th, 2012, 9:56 pm
irritated said:
#314 Observer
“his clan is willing to give the Kurds autonomy and indepdendence”
Great idea! With that and the french “armenian genocide” law, Erdogan will surely have a relapse of his colon polyps.
January 28th, 2012, 9:57 pm
ann said:
Slam Obama; protect Israel! – 27 January 2012
http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-269788-slam-obama-protect-israel.html
The recommendations by Andrew Adler, owner of the US weekly Atlanta Jewish Times, to protect Israel, with which he has religious attachments, have prompted discussions in the US and around the world.
Had these recommendations been made by an insane person or had they been published on a conspiracy theory website, they would not be worth discussing. However, the publication of these statements in a paper bearing a title that involves the word Jewish, in an article authored by the owner of the paper, is something that deserves attention.
Is it an exaggeration to expect that the team that launched a deliberate attack against Mavi Marmara, could possibly be involved in a plan to assassinate Obama or undermine Turkish-French relations by using Sarkozy?
January 28th, 2012, 10:18 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Irritated said
They can’t even be recognized as a valid opposition organization by more than a couple of countries.
This is your wish, we will see
And as for Erdogan, you said his tumor will come back,you do not know anything about medicine.
January 28th, 2012, 10:21 pm
Norman said:
Tara,
Then why they are killing Alawat and Christians in Homs,?
January 28th, 2012, 10:24 pm
ann said:
Things start moving: French genocide bill changes reality around Turkey – 27.01.12
http://armenianow.com/genocide/35040/things_start_moving_french_genocide_bill_changes_reality_around_turkey
Immediately after the January 23 adoption of the law in the senate, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu went to Moscow, after earlier canceling his trip to Brussels. In the Russian capital, the top Turkish diplomat made a number of remarkable statements. First, it was stated there that trade between Russia and Turkey may reach a $100 billion mark over the next five years. Secondly, Davutoglu said that Turkey will not become a springboard for attacks on Iran. And before that, a Turkish minister who visited Moscow said that, along with Russia, Turkey is in favor of non-interference in Syrian affairs. Besides, an unprecedented joint statement was issued by the foreign ministers of Russia and Turkey on the Karabakh problem.
Therefore Turkey tried to show that if pressure continues it will form an alliance with Russia and Iran, refusing to cooperate with the West. But, apparently, the West has not been deterred by this either. Experts do not even rule out that France is intentionally provoking Turkey into taking some drastic steps to abandon its allied services.
January 28th, 2012, 10:27 pm
Tara said:
Norman
Sectarian killing if it happened here and there was nothing more than random act of outlash and revenge that was not systemic nor endorsed by the revolution. It occurred few month after the regime unleashed an unrentless oppressive monstrous “security option” that was carried out by mostly Alawi shabeehas and led to the killing, torture, and abduction of ten of thousands. Such sectarian killing is not unexpected consequence to the brutal oppression perceived to be carried out and endorsed by Alawis.
I am not aware of sectarian killing of Christians. We were informed on SC that Christian women were wearing the cross in Homs to be identified as Christian to avoid any possible confusion.
January 28th, 2012, 10:51 pm
Tara said:
Zoo
Is Hurryiet Daily News all mine by myself now? If you are not reading it, I am not reading it either…
It tires me to be thoughtful when I see no appreciation.
January 28th, 2012, 10:55 pm
bronco said:
#321 Ann
I won’t be surprised if Russia does not return in full force in the Middle east region within a year or two.
Most ME countries will probably distance themselves from the EU. The EU is entangled in a deep economical crisis that made it regain its arrogant colonialist attitude toward old colonies. In addition the growing anti-Islam sentiment in the EU will affect its relation with the new Arab governments that have a distinctive Islamic color.
Turkey is probably moving closer to the Russian side in relation to the Syrian and Iranian conflict.
The US has already its proprietary oil cows and puppies in the Middle East and maybe would not object too much to have Russia taking care of the less rich countries that are complicated by the presence of sizeable ethnic and religious minorities.
January 28th, 2012, 11:01 pm
ann said:
UN Says Ban Will Accept Alleged War Criminal As His Senior Adviser on Peacekeeping
http://www.innercitypress.com/ban4silva012812.html
January 28th, 2012, 11:03 pm
jad said:
Zouzou,
First I don’t believe anything Ayman Abd Alnour writes on his website even if it is true, he has a history of fabrications and manipulating news, and I wont be surprised if that this news is one of them and made specifically to agitate turkey.
Second, isn’t that exactly what you were advocating to Syria since day one, so for you it must be a great news.
Why don’t you start packing with your family to return to the independent Kurdish Syria, I’m sure that the ‘Kurdish’ government needs lots of fake ‘observers’ to help in building the new country, while there enjoy ‘Azadi’ under the PKK government and watch out for the Kurdish ‘oppositions’, they want their ‘shares’ too:
المجلس السوري الكردي”: “نريد حصتنا من الحكومة الانتقالية” المستقبلية
فيما يقترب المجلس الوطني السوري من استحقاق انتخاب رئيس جديد له يوم 15 من الشهر المقبل بموجب قاعدة الرئاسة الدوارة، أعلن عبد الحكيم بشار، رئيس المجلس السوري الكردي الذي يضم غالبية الأحزاب الكردية أن المناقشات مع المجلس الوطني “حققت تقدما” قد يفضي لاحقا إلى انضمامه إلى المجلس بانتظار الحصول على تفاهمات وضمانات بشأن مستقبل الأكراد وموقعهم في السلطة السورية القادمة.
وفي حديث لصحيفة “الشرق الأوسط” بمناسبة زيارته إلى باريس بدعوة من وزارة الخارجية الفرنسية، نفى بشار بقوة أن يكون الأكراد “يتفرجون” على الثورة السورية من بعيد مؤكدا أنهم “يشاركون فيها بفعالية.. لكن الإعلام العربي لا يغطي الأحداث في المناطق الكردية”. ويذهب بشار إلى حد تأكيد أن نسبة مشاركة الأكراد الذين يمثلون 15 في المئة من سكان سوريا أعلى من نسبة مشاركة الآخرين “حيث بقيت حتى الآن خمس محافظات” خارج الحراك.
وطرح بشار سلسلة مطالب طويلة يريد إجابات “واضحة ودقيقة” بشأنها قبل الانخراط في أي من التجمعات السياسية المعارضة، مع التأكيد على أن الأكراد “جزء من الثورة السورية” وأنهم “مستمرون فيها” سواء حصل اتفاق مع المعارضة أم لم يحصل. ويريد بشار اعترافا دستوريا صريحا بالهوية الكردية وبالشعب الكردي باعتباره “مكونا” رئيسيا وبرفع الغبن الذي لحق بالأكراد منذ عشرات السنين وبإلغاء السياسات “الشوفينية” بحقهم ورد حقوقهم والتعامل المتساوي معهم كشركاء متساوين في الوطن ورفض عبارة “الجمهورية العربية السورية” لأنها تتجاهل الأكراد. والأهم من ذلك أنه يطالب بأن “يقرر الأكراد مصيرهم بأنفسهم” على أرض سوريا مضيفا أن وحدة سوريا “خط أحمر” لا يجوز تجاوزه. وإذ يحذر من “مشاكل كبيرة” ستحصل بعد التغيير، فإنه “يصر” على الحصول على «إجابات وضمانات واضحة وموثقة» حول موقع الأكراد وحقوقهم وتعهدات من المعارضة.
وحذر بشار من أنه “إذا لم يحصل توافق بين أطراف المعارضة اليوم، فقد يحصل بعد التغيير ما لا تحمد عقباه” في إشارة إلى اختلاف الاستراتيجيات والطموحات عند أطراف المعارضة.
ودعا رئيس المجلس الكردي الذي أبصر النور حديثا إلى “وحدة المعارضة” وإلى “طمأنة الأقليات”، ليس فقط الأكراد وإنما أيضا العلويون والمسيحيون والإسماعيليون وغيرهم. كذلك، فإنه طالب بتغيير النظام بكليته وليس على مستوى الرأس وحده بل بكل بناه و”تفكيك الدولة الأمنية ومنع عودة الاستبداد بأية صورة من الصور”.
January 28th, 2012, 11:13 pm
Hans said:
Indians Arabs … By kinan Jacob special Syrian street-Jacob canan
writer in the 1960s predicted an exceptional man — that fifty years after the Islamists who took power in the Arab world — and thus the era of national political will … Leader Gamal Abdel Nasser. Does the man realizes what the Zionist American chart region? Or was it attentive to legitimate political idea of the end after this period!! Do the peoples of the region is satisfied with the project Nasseri after 50 years? Or that the judgement of the military support of Western under the guise of Arab nationalism is the imposition of this project? And what is the nature of the role played by the Islamic movements in that stage!!
Amazing today after all this unprecedented Western support for Islamic parties and movements. The United States is treated with this project in the past and placed in the header blacklist threatened global security … Starting with the hostility of the Islamic Republic of Iran during the revolution to the Shah to the Afghan Taliban and their transfers and logistical support to Allied regulations and other allies in the region to crush Islamic groups and paid the maximum degrees of violence as a prelude to infiltrate it and directing from the inside … ؟ It’s more work to establish regulations more violent and bloody and Atonement.
US industry norm by Hillary Clinton, as is well known the origin founding Hamas in Israeli intelligence rooms alakhwanih … All this raises questions and hypotheses about the seriousness of this former Western us hostility to political Islam, if the USA partner in each of the target base for their interests and the interests of its allies in order to pit world opinion to legitimize the invasion and occupation and building advanced rules here and there, killing Muslims and Arabs away from human rights and international organizations, etc..
All this hostility is declared by the US presence and global vision! What of the future will be, America today is their ally and sponsor this project, which even today arrived to capture power in Libya, Tunisia and Morocco and who knows … !! What is the vision of us?? Is it organized chaos areas seized by agents of the regional law States cannot but influence …Or is it a broader vision and included the former vision.
Hence the importance of Arab revolts made very carefully the US withdrawal from Iraq was inevitable and the deal with Iraq and does not become the focal point and the missing link for the ICA East from Tehran to Beirut and here are the great catastrophe for Israel’s security interests of the United States in the region had to be (from the demolition of this role in Domino region) made us rewrite some or all of the even more likely cuff for the security of Israel and the West even though no Syrian regime … It is working to establish a NATO fellow at the borders of Israel in the West to create a kind of balance and conflict which shipped sectarian Miss Israel and keep it out of sight …
But this quorum does not complete until the appearance in Egypt where they Decree, irrespective of the great sacrifice by the West at the expense of Hosni Mubarak. With the survival of the Kingdom ready for any development in Egypt serving on this project starting with huge armaments deals to Gulf unity project.
Same deep away from major strategies, keep polls are Faisal Arab peoples if you want to give this anarchy under the leadership of the brotherhood let to write history chapter II to us massacres against Indians but … Indians, Arabs, this time …
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خاص الشارع السوري – الكاتب كنان يعقوب
في ستينيات القرن الماضي تنبأ رجل استثنائي – بأنه وبعد خمسين عاماً سيسيطر الإسلاميون على زمام السلطة في العالم العربي – وسينتهي بذلك عصر القومية السياسية .. إنه الزعيم جمال عبد الناصر .. فهل كان الرجل يدرك ماهية المخطط الأمريكي الصهيوني على صعيد المنطقة ؟؟ أم أنه كان متقبلاً لفكرة نهاية مشروعه السياسي بعد هذه المدة !! هل كانت شعوب المنطقة راضية عن المشروع الناصري بعد خمسين عاماً ؟؟ أم أن حكم العسكر بدعم غربي تحت غطاء القومية العربية هو من فرض هذا المشروع ؟؟ وما هي طبيعة الدور الذي لعبته الحركات الإسلامية في تلك المرحلة !!
المدهش اليوم بعد كل هذا الدعم الغربي المنقطع النظير للحركات والأحزاب الإسلامية .. هو تعامل الولايات المتحدة مع هذا المشروع في الماضي ووضعه في رأس القائمة السوداء المهددة للأمن العالمي .. بدءاً بعداء الجمهورية الإسلامية في إيران إبان الثورة على الشاه وانتهاء بطالبان الأفغانية وما بينهما من عمليات تحويل ودعم لوجستي للأنظمة الحليفة وغير الحليفة في المنطقة لسحق التنظيمات الإسلامية ودفعها لأقصى درجات العنف تمهيداً لاختراقها وتوجيهها من الداخل.. ؟ لا بل والأكثر من ذلك العمل على إنشاء تنظيمات أشد عنفاً وتكفيراً ودموياً ..
فالقاعدة صناعة أميركية بلسان هيلاري كلينتون , كما لا يخفى على أحد أصل تأسيس حركة حماس الاخوانية في غرف المخابرات الإسرائيلية .. كل ذلك يثير تساؤلات وفرضيات حول جدية هذا العداء الأميركي الغربي السابق للإسلام السياسي فإذا كانت الولايات المتحدة الأميركية شريكة في كل ما جرى من استهداف القاعدة لمصالحها ومصالح حلفائها وصولاً لتأليب الرأي العالم العالمي لشرعنة الغزو والاحتلال وبناء القواعد المتقدمة هنا وهناك وقتل المسلمين والعرب بعيداً عن حقوق الإنسان والمنظمات الدولية وما إلى هنالك ..
كل هذا والعداء معلن مرتبط بالوجود حسب الرؤيا الأميركية والعالمية !! فما لذي سيكون عليه المستقبل وأميركا اليوم هي الحليف لهذه الجماعات والراعية لهذا المشروع الذي وصل بفضلها حتى اليوم إلى القبض على السلطة في ليبيا وتونس والمغرب ومن يدري .. !! فما هي الرؤيا الأميركية ؟؟ هل هي مناطق من الفوضى المنظمة المضبوطة بواسطة وكلاء إقليميين لا دول ولا قانون وإنما مناطق نفوذ ..أم أنها رؤية أوسع ومتضمنة للرؤية السابقة ..
وهنا تبرز أهمية الثورات العربية المصنوعة بدقة فائقة فالانسحاب الأميركي من العراق كان حتمياً والصفقة لا تمر والعراق سيصبح صلة الوصل والحلقة المفقودة للحلف الشرقي الممتد من طهران حتى بيروت وهنا تكون الكارثة الكبرى لأمن إسرائيل ولمصالح الولايات المتحدة في المنطقة فكان لابد ( من هدم هذا الدور في دومينو المنطقة ) المصنوع أمريكيا وإعادة صياغة بعض المتوازنات أو جميعها بما يرجح الكفة لصالح أمن إسرائيل ومصالح الغرب حتى ولو لم يسقط النظام السوري .. فيجري العمل على إنشاء حلف إخواني على حدود اسرائيل الغربية لخلق نوع من التوازن والصراع أساسه شحن طائفي يغيب إسرائيل ويبقيها بعيدة عن الأنظار ..
ولكن هذا النصاب لا يكتمل إلا بتموضع مصر في المكان المرسوم لها بصرف النظر عن التضحية الكبيرة التي قبل بها الغرب على حساب حسني مبارك .. مع بقاء المملكة العربية جاهزة لأي تطور في مصر يقضي على هذا المشروع بدايةً بصفقات التسليح الضخمة وانتهاء بمشروع الوحدة الخليجية ..
وبنفس عميق بعيداً عن الاستراتيجيات الكبرى ,, تبقى صناديق الاقتراع هي الفيصل فإن كانت الشعوب العربية تريد إعطاء الفرصة لهذه الفوضى العارمة بقيادة الاخوان المسلمين فليكن وليكتب التاريخ الفصل الثاني لمجازر الولايات المتحدة بحق الهنود ولكن .. الهنود العرب هذه المرة
January 28th, 2012, 11:23 pm
Norman said:
Tara said,
Such sectarian killing is not unexpected consequence to the brutal oppression perceived to be carried out and endorsed by Alawis.
taking revenge on a group for the deeds of the few called genocide, what did the Christians in Iraq have to do withe that war and was their sin, nothing accept being Christians, that is the kind the people you support want for Syria, the Syrian army will not let that pass, even if they have to destroy the Mideast so fasten your seat belts and make your GCC criminals do the same because the fire will burn them too,Syria will not sink alone.
January 28th, 2012, 11:30 pm
jad said:
A well deserved prize to Qaradawi, a Shoe:
Ikhras Shoe Of The Month Award Winner – December 2011
Ikhras is pleased to announce the winner of the Muntadhar Zaidi Shoe of the Month Award for this December, 2011 is Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi.
{…}
“When it comes to women Qaradawi believes men hitting women can sometimes be an “effective cure” for misbehavior and that female masturbation is “more dangerous” than male masturbation. Of course, Qaradawi would consider himself to be a moderate for restricting the severity of the beating a man is entitled to give a woman, and because the danger he attaches to female masturbation, as he has argued, is due to the consequences a woman might endure from society if she tears or breaks her hymen. The enlightened Qaradawi does concede that a woman’s punishment for losing her virginity is not death, but mere flogging.
Qaradawi’s role as hired cleric in the service of Arab oil-Sheiks came to full light in Syria. Just as he did in Bahrain, Qaradawi viewed events in Syria from his own sectarian prism which dovetailed nicely with the policies of his sponsors in Doha and Riyadh. Unlike his position in Bahrain, in Syria he not only sided with peaceful protesters but also expressed support for a campaign of violence carried out by the armed wing of the Muslim Brotherhood based on what he views as a Sunni uprising against a regime he considers to be representing another heretical sect, the Alawites. Earlier this month Qaradawi issued a religious edict sanctioning yet another “foreign intervention”, the agreed upon euphemism for a US/NATO war on an Arab country, this time on Syria.
At the same time Qaradawi was helping advance the Saudi & Qatari foreign policy objectives by enlisting God into the NATO alliance in support of war on Syria, he was also advocating a moderate policy towards Israel and the Western imperialist powers which he cautioned should be “wise and rational.” It’s no coincidence that the Islamists in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, and Syria most influenced by Qaradawi and the Muslim Brotherhood have become a tool in the Saudi-American counter-revolution in the Arab world and have made it clear they’re prepared to adopt friendly Neo-liberal economic policies and appease Israel as long as Western governments would acquiesce to their ascension to power.
The Arab uprising of 2011 was one against both domestic tyranny and foreign domination which were always intrinsically linked in pro-West Arab states such as Egypt and Tunisia. Moreover, the popular uprisings from Tunisia to Bahrain revealed a unified citizenry where oppressed masses, men and women, peasants and workers, young and old, Muslim and Christian, Sunni and Shia stand up and demand their rights as citizens of their own states, not as adherents of a sect or proponents of narrow factional interests. If Qaradawi and his sponsors in the Gulf were to succeed, whatever gains the Arab citizen has realized thus fair, and they have been limited, will be reversed and eclipsed by a reactionary, divisive political program destined to end in an economic, social, and political failure not unlike that which the Arab masses have revolted against.
For the uprisings in the Arab world to truly succeed and reach their full revolutionary potential, they must not only uproot entrenched economic and political structures of domination, but must also bring to an end the hegemony of foreign powers that undergird the ruling economic and political classes in the Arab world. An authentic revolutionary program, therefore, must also challenge social and cultural norms that perpetuate the domination of the ruling class. This will necessarily include confronting the unjustified deference many are too willing to show any man (and its always men) that wraps himself, literally and metaphorically, in a religious cloth while serving the same entrenched powers whose overthrow is necessary for the Arab uprisings to develop into authentic revolutions.
So in that spirit and in recognition of his obscurantism, sectarian agitation, service to GCC states, reactionary political and social agenda, moderation towards Zionism and imperialism, and in special tribute to his edict issued earlier this month in which he invoked religion and God to compel acquiescence to a US/NATO war on Syria, Ikhras is pleased to award the prestigious Ikhras shoe of the month for December, 2011 to Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi.”
http://ikhras.com/2012/01/ikhras-shoe-of-the-month-award-winner-december-2011/
January 28th, 2012, 11:52 pm
Hans said:
@101
it is clear that the priest was not killed by the regime, he was killed by the Islamists, terrorists, Everyone in Syria knew this fact, therefore stop your BS and the others who are like you here trying to spread all the lies.
All the radicals like you here make up stories which is not even for elementary school kids to believe.
go to hell and hopefully you will find your 72 virgin waiting for you, wish all of you go to the heaven which you think is waiting for you, don’t forget in your heaven there are rivers of wine, just in case you don’t drink here on earth.
BTW, can’t wait for the American drones to target all these terrorists who are killing innocent people in syria and elsewhere, time will tell.
January 28th, 2012, 11:55 pm
syria no kandahar said:
Hamad feels the pain of syrian people,His friends killing almost
one century old person in a cold blood.This victim lived happilly
in the great nation syria befor it got plaqued by the Wahabi criminals sperms:
استشهد الأربعاء الحاج “مصطفى كوسا” (96 عاماً) وزوجته برصاص مسلحين في منطقة “باب الدريب” في حمص.
وعلم عكس السير أن الشهيد “كوسا” وزوجته تمت محاولة تهجيرهما من منزلهما بعد أن هجر المسلحون سبع عائلات قبلهم، إلا أنه رفض الخروج فاقتيدا خارج المنزل وتمت تصفيتهما.
وقال الأمين العام للحزب الديمقراطي السوري (ابن المغدورين) لـ عكس السير: “نعتبر هذا العمل بحق رجل عمره 96 عاماً عمل جبان وهو إن دل على شيء فإنه يدل على أن الإرهاب لا دين له “.
وأضاف “كوسا”: إن استشهاد والدي وأمي هو مكرمة لنا ونضعه وسام على جبينا “.
يذكر أن “كوسا” هو الأمين العام للحزب الديمقراطي السوري الذي أعلن عن تأسيسه مؤخراً لممارسة الحياة السياسية في سوريا وفق قانون الأحزاب الذي أصدره الرئيس بشار الأسد قبل أشهر.
January 29th, 2012, 12:18 am
syria no kandahar said:
The criminal islamic wahabi mafia contaminating the holly Syrian land is one million times worse than the worst corrupt regime ,They are the court,the judge,and the killers withuot any proof aor any defence:They decide you need to die….that is it,you need to die,the Mafia way:Supported by IRAN HATERS,the so called the free world:
تبنت جماعة تطلق على نفسها “كتيبة الأبابيل” في حلب، التابعة لمايسمى ” الجيش السوري الحر” عملية قتل الصناعي الحلبي هيثم خانكان الذي قتل صباح اليوم الخميس على طريق المدينة الصناعية في حلب.
وقالت ” الكتيبة” في بيان لها نشرته على صفحتها على الفيس بوك ” قامت عناصر من سرية الشهيد عمر حاوي بتاريخ 26″1″2012 باغتيال الشبيح هيثم خانكان وهو صاحب معمل برادات البطريق الذهبي”.
وجاء في البيان ان سبب قتل الصناعي خانكان إلى أنه “من الممولين الكبار للشبيحة بحلب”، وقالت انه تمت ” متابعته ورصد المعلومات عنه وتبين بأنه ممول للشبيحة بأكثر من 15مليون ليرة سورية”، وذلك على حد تعبير البيان.
و وقع البيان باسم ” الملازم مصعب الواوي”.
وكان عكس السير نشر في وقت سابق خبر إقدام أربعة مسلحين يستقلون سيارة من نوع كيا على اغتيال الصناعي الحلبي هيثم خانكان، في منطقة ” البريج” على طريق المدينة الصناعية بحلب، صباح اليوم الخميس.
وذكر شاهد عيان لـ عكس السير أن أربعة مسلحين يستقلون سيارة من نوع كيا تحمل لوحة دمشق، فتحو النار على الصناعي ” خانكان” الذي كان يستقل سيارة من نوع كيا جيب، في منطقة البريج.
وتم نقله إلى الطبابة الشرعية في حلب، حيث تبين انه مصاب بعدة عيارات نارية، وان سبب الوفاة يعود إلى النزف الغزير في البطن والصدر.
يشار إلى أن ما يسمى ” كتيبة الأبابيل” أعلنت مسؤوليتها في وقت سابق عن عدة عمليات تفجير في حلب، آخرها تفجير سيارة في حي
January 29th, 2012, 12:25 am
ann said:
Thirty AL Observers to Syria Next Week – Jan 29, 2012
Damascus, Jan 29 – A group of 30 observers from the Arab League (AL) will travel to Syria next week to compensate for the withdrawal of those pulled out by the oil monarchies of the Persian Gulf, which decided to boycott the mission.
Local media quoted the head of the mission operations office, Adnan al-Khoudir, a man who confirmed the number of observers to replace those from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and Oman.
Al-Khoudir pointed out in a statement that the new group of observers come from Egypt, Mauritania and Palestine. Iraq and Sudan expressed their willingness to send more experts to support the mission.
Syria accepted the extension of the mission of observers for another month, until February 23, despite political and diplomatic attacks, mainly from Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which confabulated with western countries.
Al-Khoudir stated the observers are fulfilling their duty in Syrian cities and towns with effectiveness, and they receive appropriate cooperation and facilities, but they are facing difficulties in the areas of Homs and the outskirts of Damascus, due to violence by armed groups.
A team of observers visited the neighborhood of al-Qaeh, in the district of al-Midan, Damascus, to witnesses a terrorist attack with explosives, as a result of which a 10-year-old kid was killed and 11 people were injured.
Armed individuals wearing hoods and masks detonated a bomb and opened fire at people near a mosque in al-Qaek on Friday.
Sudanese General Mohammad al-Dabi, chief of the group of observers, warned that violence escalated from Tuesday to Friday in Homs, Hama and Idleb.
An armed gang killed the director of the Red Crescent Society after ambushing his car, while in Hama, armed men killed young Christian priest Basilious al-Nasser, from the Roman Orthodox Church.
Local media reported that Syrian forces aborted the infiltration of an armed group from Turkey in Idleb, a Syrian province adjacent to the Turkish border.
The armed group suffered a large number of casualties, including dead and injured people, and the rest turned back to Turkey.
Authorities have been forced to carry out actions to stop the armed gangs. A large number of these individuals were captured and their weapons were seized.
Al-Dabi called for an end to violence to preserve lives and pave the way for a peaceful solution to the crisis.
January 29th, 2012, 12:35 am
ann said:
Damascus slams Arab League suspending its mission in Syria – Jan 29, 2012
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012/01/29/64859627.html
In a statement on Sunday, Damascus slammed the Arab League’s move to suspend its monitoring mission in Syria.
“This will have a negative impact and put pressure on the UN Security Council with the aim of calling for foreign intervention and encouraging armed groups to increase violence, “the statement said.
On January 28, the Arab League announced the suspension of its observer mission in Syria, citing escalation of violence there in the past couple of weeks.
The Security Council is due to discuss the situation in Syria early next week.
January 29th, 2012, 1:14 am
ann said:
Protest rally near US Embassy in London – Jan 29, 2012
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012/01/29/64860213.html
Saturday saw a protest rally near the US Embassy in London, with several hundreds of demonstrators warning the West against interfering in Iran’s and Syria’s domestic affairs.
Protesters said that the West’s possible intervention against these two countries is fraught with serious repercussions.
They added that they do not rule out a repeat of the Iraqi or Libyan scenario in Iran and Syria, where regime change may well be on cards.
January 29th, 2012, 1:18 am
Juergen said:
Hans
Good you back, i was worried you arent here anymore, and i could not find you on other blogs as well.
You mentioned the huri topic which we can find in the Quran. A friend of mine is an scholar on the quran, and he has a quite unique way of interpreting this. The official interpretation is that the muqmin (true believer in islam) will find in jennah 72 huris to enjoy. So for most people, even Goethe believed it its clear it must be pure women. The question i always had is what about women will they get pure men to serve them?
My friend wrote an essay to prove that the word huri came out of the aramaic language, there are many words orginating from nonarabic languges. In aramaeic huri means grapes. So all the harem fantasies about jennah may just be wishful thinking, instead of the women one will get grapes. By the way that goes along with other chapters and parts of the Quran where it is often said that wine will be offered in jennah without the earthly effects.
But i guess those salafis wont like to hear what huri means…
January 29th, 2012, 1:35 am
Juergen said:
I just read an interesting article in Germanys leading investigative magazin, DER SPIEGEL. They are usually very good informed. They said that the appeasement politics conduczted by most arab nations regarding Syria is history now. The mission in Syria has failed, even though the monitors are still in the country to await further instructions, yet they think the mission will not go on.
Nothing has changed with the mission, even reversly, the deathrate has risen eversince. The last credibility the regime had among arabs is gone by now.
The Saudis were among the first to acknowledge that they are no longer willing to act as an fique leave for the regime, the other 5 gulf countries quitted the mission on Tuesday as well.
Now as it looks like the Saudis will eventually grant the SNC full cooperation and will consider them the only spokespersons of Syria.
DER SPIEGEL writes that there are ongoing discussions and as it looks like the military intervention becomes more and more likely.
The general secetary of the Gulf Cooperation Council Abdul Latif Bin Raschid al-Zayani has met on a short noticed meeting with NATO general secetary Anders Fogh Rasmussen. There might be an consensus soon that the arab countries and western nations will act together.
Here is the report in german:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,812012,00.html
January 29th, 2012, 1:49 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
Juergen
Can you please ask your friend if the 72 grapes are white or red.i was thinking to join FSA but I
Don’t like red grapes.FSA want to give me I car
And explode into my Syrian brothers,but I don’t
Like red grapes.Also ask him what would a Christian get:Onions?Garlic?Eggplant?
January 29th, 2012, 2:19 am
ann said:
Syria 27-1-2012 – Adnan Aror informs his killers to kick out the Arab League Monitors from Syria.
January 29th, 2012, 2:38 am
Juergen said:
Well I suppose all earthly matters dont exist in paradise, so may be you love red grapes then.
January 29th, 2012, 2:43 am
Revlon said:
سوريا-صور تنشر لأول مرة عن مجزرة حماة 1982
Hama Massacre
February 1982
Images of destruction of the city that resulted from land and air bombardment, which was commanded by Assad the father, and overseen and executed by Assad the uncle.
January 29th, 2012, 2:56 am
Syria no kandahar said:
مفارم العرعور
يشغلها كلاب الاخوان
January 29th, 2012, 3:14 am
Syria no kandahar said:
عدالة مفارم اللحمه
رحمة كلاب الفاروق العراعره
January 29th, 2012, 3:25 am
Syria no kandahar said:
عمليه نوعيه!!!
كتيبة الله اكبر
What kind of a god would bless such a horrible
Crime…is this the freedom you are getting Syria
Bastards…Is your god happy now..is he satisfied..
Do you worship a Dracolla who never get full
And is thirsty for blood day and night …you even
Admit and you call him خير الماكرين
January 29th, 2012, 3:35 am
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
341. Revlonsaid:
سوريا-صور تنشر لأول مرة عن مجزرة حماة 1982
Hama Massacre
_________________________________________________
ابعت هل الصور إلى سوبريم منافق زعبرجي يدعي الإسلام آيتالله خيميني
January 29th, 2012, 4:01 am
Revlon said:
Group photo of Dr AlTaye3’s four children whose house was set ablaze and were burnt to death by Assad Shabbeeha yesterday.
They are Izzidine, Tuqa, Issa, and Hamza
The father, a dentist was arrested in Septemeber 2011 and jailed in Sidnaya for charges of “Financing the Revolution”.
The mother was hospitalised for severe burns.
https://www.facebook.com/TheSyrianDream#!/photo.php?fbid=233610756721798&set=a.101371413279067.2641.100740946675447&type=1&theater
January 29th, 2012, 4:15 am
Dale Andersen said:
Cool stuff about the revolution coming to Damascus >>> http://www.enduringamerica.com/home/2012/1/28/syria-video-analysis-beginning-of-end-of-regime-is-at-hand.html
January 29th, 2012, 4:26 am
Revlon said:
Hama 2 by Assad Jr
Scenes of residential destruction inflicted by yesterday’s bombardment by Assad forces.
AlHamidiyeh neighbourhood
Hama city
29/01/2012
شام – حماه – حميدية – اثار الدمار الذي خلفته عصابات
January 29th, 2012, 4:30 am
Alan said:
Russia for increasing number of Arab League observers in Syria
http://www.itar-tass.com/en/
I think that Russia has an alternative to replacement AL observers by groups from the countries BRIKS
January 29th, 2012, 6:14 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Mr. Assad you have reached what you were searching for. Total chaos, war and sectarian confrontations. You are looking for Lebanon War II in Syria but even if you got it you would not know how to deal with it without Khaddam, Kanaan, etc.
Yesterday 100 killed in Syria.
Now everything is ready for the implosion, is taht what Assad wanted?
Get ready here we come.
January 29th, 2012, 6:29 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Be fair
Sandro
Please be fair, the fool could not do this on his own. He has an army of enablers, some of which are here on SC, cutting and pasting the worst mental defecation from fascist reactionaries, Iranian press, Russian prostituting-journalism, and from failed Arab-nationalist propagandist and Lebanese whores of words who reside in five star hotels in Damascus at the expense of every Syrian.
So please give credit where credit is due. Posters on this site who have happily advocated “surgical strikes”, are as responsible for the massacre of children as the mafia boss and his gang of hyenas. Every time these sectarian hooligans on SC tried to show how popular this buffoon of a president is, or how divided the opposition, or how Islamic are their slogans, and how un-educated are the protesters (as if the education of the SC sectarian hooligans on SC has benefited in making them closer to human values), they were simply manufacturing new bullets and tank shells that are now killing the innocents.
Yes the bad memories will be converted into good one and the memory of their beloved buffoon standing in the trial cage begging for mercy along with his cousins and siblings and chiefs of insecurity and oppression instruments will live with Syrians for a long time, that if the Syrian people were too generous to grant then trial that they never afforded the innocents they murdered.
As for the trials of SC’s own sectarian hooligans, I don’t give a damn about them, for they will have live with the stench of their rotten values, and in that, there may be heavenly justice. There will always be fools like them who will feed them fiery articles spelling dooms during the rebuilding of Syria, and we will be there to expose them, but more importantly, the Syrian people will reject them like the toxic waste they are.
January 29th, 2012, 8:01 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Juergen
There is nothing in Quraan mentioned about The Number 72, the number is not there.
There ia no mention in Quraan or Hadith about sex or having children in Quraan or Hadith.
The peophet himself never interpreted Quraan, so no one has the right to interpret Quraan and then taken as definite, I believe we know how to read and write Arabic, we interpret Quraan,we can discuss our interpretation with others based on what is written and based on what we understand Quraan,the arabic language,but old interpretation of Quraan may not be correct,since it was done by non arabic people, where arabic language is their second language not their mother language.Quraan is manifest,clear as you read it if you understand arabic well, In Quraan it is mentioned that some will interpreted wrong, even it is a manifest book.
Old interpretation of Quraan does not distinguish between AN(mean on),and Fi(mean IN),they believe they are interchangeable, they are not ,and when you replace on with in or the other way around ,you change the meaning tremendously.
for example, there is a verse in Quraan says
Those who (an salatihem sahoon)and those who(fi salatihem sahoon) the meaning is completely different.this difference was not recognized by Bukhari and Turmizi,whose arabic language is second language.
January 29th, 2012, 8:16 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Just in: new Assad reform. This time in Bab Amr
.
January 29th, 2012, 8:40 am
Tara said:
Norman,
You said
“taking revenge on a group for the deeds of the few called genocide, what did the Christians in Iraq have to do withe that war and was their sin, nothing accept being Christians, that is the kind the people you support want for Syria, the Syrian army will not let that pass, even if they have to destroy the Mideast so fasten your seat belts and make your GCC criminals do the same because the fire will burn them too,Syria will not sink alone.”
Norman
Let me take you through a mental exercise. Let us change the setting to the USA on 9/112001 after the attacks on the World Trade Centre. Understandingly, there were a backlash on the Arab and Muslim community in the US and some hate crimes.
Step out of yourself for a second and read this imaginary report from the Muslim and Arab community to the people of the US in regard with me:
[Taking revenge on a group for the deeds of the few called genocide, what did the vast majority of Muslims have to do with the WTC and was it their sin?, nothing except being Muslims, …, the Muslim army of OBL will not let that passes, even if they have to destroy the US so fasten your seat belts and make your EU criminals (and the whole world that is showing solidarity with you) do the same because the fire will burn them too, …]
Do you find the above statements acceptable? Doesn’t it sound to you like a mental product of brainwashed delusional people.
DO Not not reply, I am waiting to hear your response.
January 29th, 2012, 9:10 am
Alan said:
353-
Like an octopus,,their tentacles are everywhere needs blood meals to survive…. F… U.. your moment must be soon !
SYRIA: REBELS USING ISRAELI ARMS
Syrian media showcase images of weapons allegedly produced by Jewish State
Syrian media outlets reported Friday that President Bashar Assad’s security forces seized huge quantities of weapons used by rebels across the country, including Israeli-made arms.
According to the unconfirmed reports, Assad’s troops seized a machinegun, Israeli-made bombs, automatic rifles, various explosive devices, protective vests, night-vision equipment and military uniforms, among other things.
Syrian television showcased the weapons Friday evening and claimed that some of the arms originated in Israel. Some of the weapons featured Hebrew inscriptions, yet it was unclear who was holding the arms and where the images were photographed.
Weapons showcased on Syrian TV The latest Syrian reports are apparently meant to discourage anti-Assad rebels and present them as traitors who enlist the help of the “Zionist enemy” in their battle against President Assad. Notably, this was not the first time that images of weapons allegedly produced by Israel emerged during the so-called “Arab Spring.” In previous cases, both government forces and rebels used such images to portray their foes as traitors.
Last year, shortly after the beginning of the Libyan uprising against Muammar Gaddafi’s rule, rebels presented weapons they claimed originated in Israel and were used by Gaddafi’s forces.
January 29th, 2012, 9:23 am
Equus said:
Excellent article by Robert Fisk.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-weve-been-here-before–and-it-suits-israel-that-we-never-forget-nuclear-iran-6294111.html
January 29th, 2012, 9:32 am
Tara said:
Syrian Hamster,
“whores of words”. Brilliant! I
Ah, I have very very soft heart to brilliance,charm, and sophistication whether embodied in writing, film production, music, painting or anything else for that matter.
Please write more.
January 29th, 2012, 9:38 am
mjabali said:
Jurgen:
Do not listen to Majedkhaldoun. He does not know what he is talking about.
If you take his words to his own sheikh he would be rebuked and probably considered out of the Sunna wa-al-jama3a.
Mohammad interpreted al-Quran to his contemporaries opposite to what Majed Khaldoun said and claimed.
Majedkhaldoun claimed that it is easy for those who read and write Arabic to interpret al-Quraan and that is funny because I know for a fact that Majedkhaldoun’s Arabic is not that good. Look at his English and you can tell that he is not a textual person.
al-Quran as we all know had been a battleground for so many people (Actually many of those spent their lives learning language and linguistics…etc) who wanted to take the HUGE task and interpret it. It is a very hard task and you need to be up to it. Besides your linguistic knowledge you need the right historical information too, and we both know that Majedkhladoun is none of that. To prove this you can look at how Majedkhaldoun brought al-Bukhari and Turmudhi to the discussion and both are known to be Hadith specialists and has nothing to do with interpretation / Tafseer. Hadith and Tafseer are two different worlds.
al-bukhari has a famous book : al-Jami’ al-Sahih al-Musnad min Hadith Rasul Allah wa-Sunanuh wa-Ayamuh, known as al-Jami’ al-Sahih.
al-Turmudhi on the other hand has a famous book called: Sunnan al-Turmudhi. Both men has nothing to do with Tafseer/interpretation of al-Quran.
It makes more sense to someone from the day and age of Mohammad to understand the riddles of the language of al-Quran more than us in this day and age. Majedkhaldoun in his dreams can understand every word in al-Quran. In reality it is a very hard and complex text to decipher and understand.
January 29th, 2012, 9:55 am
Juergen said:
Sorry pals i dont want to get an other round of theology debates here, i think thats hard enough what is going on with the Syrians.
January 29th, 2012, 10:05 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
Islamic rats friends of SH attacked Der Sednia today.
January 29th, 2012, 10:07 am
Tara said:
Dear Jeurgen
Thank you from refraining to get engaged in hatred spreading debate.
I am so grateful that Syria attracts many great non- Syrians that care about her.
January 29th, 2012, 10:11 am
jad said:
After targeting trains, gas lines, trucks, schools, orphanages and mosques it’s time for monasteries, not any one of them Sednaya, one of the oldest in the world, is the great Omayyad mosque next on the list!
Khara 3alekon w heek thawra bunch of Ignorant criminals!
رئيسة دير سيدة صيدنايا: سقوط قذيفة على الدير ولا اصابات
أكدت رئيسة دير سيدة صيدنايا في ريف دمشق الأم فيرونا في حديث صحافي “أن قذيفة مدفعية انطلقت من الجبل المقابل للدير واصابت إحدى غرف الدير من الجهة الشمالية واخترقت الجدار”، مشيرة الى ان الاضرار اقتصرت على الماديات.
January 29th, 2012, 10:21 am
Ghufran said:
As if the Syrian situation is not complicated enough:
اربيل- (ا ف ب): طالب عدد من ممثلي الاكراد السوريين السبت بإجراء استفتاء لتقرير مصيرهم في بلادهم بعد تغيير النظام فيها، فيما رفض اخرون اقامة اقليم مستقل كالذي يتمتع به اشقائهم في العراق.
وعقدت اكثر من 210 شخصيات كردية جاءت من 25 دولة أجنبية، مؤتمرا في اربيل حضره رئيس اقليم كردستان العراق الشمالي مسعود بارزاني، لبحث مستقبلهم في سوريا.
وقال حمد درويش سكرتير الحزب التقدمي الكردي في سوريا، ردا على سؤال حول طموحهم باقامة اقليم مشابه لكردستان العراق “في سوريا لن نحصل على نفس الشيء الذي لدى اكراد العراق لان الظروف مختلفة”.
واضاف “نطالب بان تثبت حقوقنا الوطنية في الدستور وان يوافق عليها اخواننا العرب” في سوريا.
ويمثل الاكراد تسعة بالمئة من الشعب السوري. وهناك 12 حزبا كرديا محظورا، كلها علمانية واكثرها تاثيرا حزب يكيتي والحزب الديمقراطي الكردي في سوريا (بارتي) وحزب يزيدي الكردي والاتحاد الديمقراطي (القريب من حزب العمال الكردي).
ومن جانبه، قال عبد الحكيم بشار سكرتير الحزب الديمقراطي الكردي في سوريا، ان “الشعب الكردي في سوريا سوف يقرر ما يريد وحق تقرير المصير يعني اجراء استفتاء للشعب الكردي ليقرر ما يريد وفق مبدأ اللامركزية”.
واكد أن “حق تقرير المصير لدينا مشروط بالحفاظ على الوحدة السورية”.
واشار المشاركون في المؤتمر إلى ان “سياسة التمييز” التي عاشوها على مدى عقود تتطلب “حلا ديموقراطيا” لقضيتهم.
كما طالبوا بالاعتراف بلغتهم وثقافتهم اضافة إلى منحهم حقوق في سياسية وادارية ولكن في في اطار وحدة البلاد.
ومن جانبه، قال سعد الدين ملا عضو اللجنة السياسية الحزب اليكيتي الديمقراطي الكردي في سوريا، ان “شعبنا الكردي سوف يقرر ما يريد عبر الاستفتاء وسنعمل بما يقرره بالفدرالية او الحكم الذاتي او اللامركزية”.
اما جواد الملا سكرتير المؤتمر الوطني الكردي في سوريا “حتما سيكون هناك حكومة كردية في سوريا. لكن بما ان الاحزاب الكردية والشارع (الكردي) غير متفقين الان يفضل ان يترك هذا الامر الى ما بعد سقوط النظام” السوري.
وتابع “بعدها يجرى استفتاء عام للشعب الكردي في سوريا، هل يريد البقاء ضمن سوريا او يريد الاستقلال”.
January 29th, 2012, 10:31 am
Juergen said:
I heard that near Damascus Airport have been attacks, anybody can confirm that?
SNK
what happen to the sisters of the monastery?
Syria crisis worsens
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/46176809#46176809
January 29th, 2012, 10:39 am
Syria no kandahar said:
90%of destruction in Syria is caused by this wahabi piggy hamster:
January 29th, 2012, 10:40 am
Ghufran said:
أكد قائد كتيبية أبابيل في حلب النقيب المظلي المنشق عمار الواوي لـ”إيلاف” مسؤولية كتيبته” كتيبة أبابيل “عن مقتل رجل الأعمال الحلبي هيثم خانكان، مبررًا أن رجل الأعمال المقتول كان يموّل الشبيحة في مدينة حلب.
وأشار إلى “أن هذه العملية هي العملية الثالثة للكتيبة بعد تفجيرين لسيارة شبيح ومحل شبيح آخر”، وقال “وجّهت تحذيرات كثيرة، وعبر تصريحات وبيانات عدة للشبيحة، ولمن يدعمهم في حلب”، وأضاف دعوت الشبيحة إلى عدم قتل شعبهم، ووضعت أسماءهم وأرقام هواتفهم، بعدما وثقت المعلومات.
وقال “أعطيناهم مهلاً أكثر من مهل جامعة الدول العربية، لكنهم لم يرتدعوا”. وأوضح الواوي “وجّهت النداء أيضًا إلى مموّلي الشبيحة، أدعوهم الى التوبة، والوقوف مع الشعب، وأعدت التحذير مرارًا (ياعائلة بري وعائلة خانكان وعائلة زيدو…) ولم يصغي إليّ أي أحد”.
now we have a collection of anti government armed groups killing people right and left using Fatwas,self-made excuses and a variety of slogans to justify violence.
January 29th, 2012, 10:49 am
mjabali said:
حجة vera wang texting while on the highway:
Hajj Juergen put a link to a very idiotic article about the Alawis few days ago. He asked you all what you think of the content and Majdkhaldoun volunteered and rambled about the Alawis some takfiri nonsense equal to the ignorance he came up with here regarding the interpretation of al-Quran.
Hajj Juergen asked you guys to inform him a little about your countrymen the Alawis and you failed to even provide one shred of information. Probably you were on the highway busy searching the internet while you driving looking for some boots or bags or probably buying some Iranian documentaries.
Again, Hajj Juergen wanted to know something about tafseer and you guys are failing him again and can not even come up with one decent info about that matter.
January 29th, 2012, 10:54 am
anton said:
Please do not touch Der Sydnaia its the Makeh of the Syrian’s christians
January 29th, 2012, 10:56 am
Alan said:
It’s “dawe bellyali saeedeh” meaning in english “Enlighten in a happy night”, it’s a christmas song for Jesus when he comes that night and Bless everyone with love and peace
January 29th, 2012, 11:07 am
Ghufran said:
Losing the battle in the outskirts of Damascus will bring the fight to Damascus proper,after that we will not be able to make any predictions about the course of events.
Regardless of where you stand,pray for the safety and well being of innocent Syrians most of whom have little to do with this bloody tragedy.
January 29th, 2012, 11:10 am
anton said:
dear @364
if you are not Syrian and you don’t contribute any goods for Syria then stay out of it please, its enough propaganda, its hearting every one there
January 29th, 2012, 11:11 am
Alan said:
364. JUERGEN said:
I heard that near Damascus Airport have been attacks, anybody can confirm that?
who tell you ? is It the ciphered military order?
January 29th, 2012, 11:20 am
anton said:
dear @ 361
you too, enough is enough !!
January 29th, 2012, 11:21 am
Alan said:
January 29th, 2012, 11:32 am
irritated said:
371. Alan said:
ref: 364. JUERGEN
No, it is one his “friends” who told him
January 29th, 2012, 11:49 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Juergen
I heared that the FSA control the road close to the Damascus airport but the airport is still working, however there is a major defection by rocket phalange,close to Damascus,and as a result the regime brought tanks to inside Damascus,and placed them in different part of Damascus,what is true is that guns sound are heared all night in Damascus,by Damascus residents.
Mjabali
Your hatred toward me is blinding you and making you lie , all islamic scholars say that the prophet did not interpreted Quraan, he discussed few verses only in his hadith, you do not know me to say my arabic is not good,and the truth is that you do not know much about history, please spare us your lies.
January 29th, 2012, 11:52 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
Tara the jardoon fan has lost it,she compares killing hundred of thousands of Iraqi
Christians in a country they lived in for five thousand years by her Saudi Wahhabi
Friends to killing of 3 people in the 300 million people US after 9/11,one of the killed ones in Arizona was copt and was mistaken for a Moslem .how logical is Tara,she should work for Aljazera 140000$ just for spreading her lies.
January 29th, 2012, 12:02 pm
zoo said:
Turkey may provide Hamas with $300 million in annual aid
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/turkey-may-provide-hamas-with-300-million-in-annual-aid-1.409708
Hamas has been facing financial difficulties due to late and reduced payments from Iran; Meshal deciding between Qatar and Jordan for new Hamas headquarters, after leaving Syria.
{..}
January 29th, 2012, 12:06 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
The noose is closing on the Assad regime.
Yesterday 120 demonstrations in the city of Aleppo alone.
Today, the FSA is closing on Damascus.
And some rumors like this:
عاااااااااااجل عااااااااااااجل عاااااااجل انشقاقات في ساحة العباسيين وشارع بغداد في دمشق انشقاق لواء مع 600 عنصر انشقاق سرية صواريخ وتهدد بقصف القصر الجمهوري وافرع المخابرات والجيش الحر يهدد بقصف التلفزيون السوري اقسم انها معلومات مؤكدة
January 29th, 2012, 12:18 pm
Tara said:
Kandi
Not good enough salary for me.
Kandahar, it is not a revolution of Muslims against Christians and Alawis. I am afraid that the minorities in Syria are fulfiling a self- prophesed future and making a historical mistake because they by supporting the tyrant are pushing it to
morph into that. Why can’t you guys understand this? When chaos prevails, no one can stop it and it will last forever.
January 29th, 2012, 12:20 pm
bronco said:
Jad
The GCC boycott of the observers mission, their intention to arm the FSA further, and the “regime change” resolution they are trying to impose on Syria through the UN, is a clear provocation for an all out war.
This is happening now.
Nothing can now stop the Syrian Army to attack and dislodge the armed mutineers who are now exposing the civilians to death instead of protecting them. The army is in the process of eradicating the mutineers before they are able to obtain more advanced weapons from the GCC.
While in Edlib, the mutineers could obtain weapons through Turkey, in the suburbs of Damascus it is much harder. Zabadani is sealed off and the mutineers there are trapped, they can’t rescue the others.
The outcome of this war will decide what is next for Syria.
January 29th, 2012, 12:24 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Please read AlQuds
الجيش السوري الحر يؤكد أن المعارك تقترب من دمشق
Thank you Haytham, the news are accurate and I mentioned some earlier
January 29th, 2012, 12:26 pm
Equus said:
Neutral journalism is scarce resources nowadays. Read the full article.
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/gilles-jacquier-killed-as-rebel-warning-to-truth-tellers-stay-out-of-our-regime-change/#comment-33276
January 29th, 2012, 12:27 pm
irritated said:
Haytham
You know that rumors like these are often indication of desperation when one is loosing.
“And some rumors like this:
عاااااااااااجل عااااااااااااجل عاااااااجل انشقاقات في ساحة العباسيين وشارع بغداد في دمشق انشقاق لواء مع 600 عنصر انشقاق سرية صواريخ وتهدد بقصف القصر الجمهوري وافرع المخابرات والجيش الحر يهدد بقصف التلفزيون السوري اقسم انها معلومات مؤكدة”
January 29th, 2012, 12:27 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
Toto(you started)
Don’t run away from your lies.stay in the subject.What most of Syrians(even Sunnis )see in the horizon is uglier,filthier,Islamic Terrorist Tyran.Watch your friends monsters in Alfarook in the link above telling their victim:
What do you want befor dying wlak?
January 29th, 2012, 12:30 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Assad loses control over Sabqa – Damascus suburbs
الأسد فقد سيطرته على سقبا- ريف
January 29th, 2012, 12:34 pm
zoo said:
Arab chief seeks Russian, Chinese change on Syria
CAIRO – Agence France-Presse
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/arab-chief-seeks-russian-chinese-change-on-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=12522&NewsCatID=352
Arab League chief Nabil al-Arabi said on Sunday he hopes Russia and China will change their stance on Syria and allow the UN Security Council to issue a resolution backing a League plan to end the crisis.
“I hope these two countries will alter their position concerning the draft UN Security Council resolution which would adopt the Arab plan,” Arabi said before leaving Cairo for the United Nations in New York.
“Contacts are under way” between the Arab League “and Russia and China on the situation in Syria,” Arabi added, in remarks reported by Egypt’s official MENA news agency.
He said the League’s decision to suspend its monitoring mission on the ground had been taken “because of a significant deterioration of the situation in Syria to ensure the security of the observers.” Arabi on Saturday said the League was pulling out its observer mission which had been on the ground for just over a month “after the Syrian government chose the option of escalation, which increased the number of victims.” The opposition Syrian National Council has called for protests outside Russian diplomatic missions against Moscow opposing a draft European-Arab UN resolution on the crisis that backs the League plan calling on President Bashar al-Assad to quit.
SNC chief Burhan Ghaliun was also travelling to New York on Sunday “to present the Syrian case… and demand protection.” European and Arab nations pushing the new resolution are reported to be reworking the draft after the withdrawal of the League monitoring mission.
The text, backed by Britain, France, Germany and Arab Security Council member Morocco, calls on the international community to back the Arab League plan to end the crisis.
The League plan looks to a halt in the violence and Assad transferring power to his deputy ahead of negotiations.
Moscow opposes the draft resolution, and has proposed its own draft assigning equal blame for the violence on both Assad and the opposition, an option dismissed by the West.
January/29/2012
CAIRO – Agence France-Presse
Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi. REUTERS photo
Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi. REUTERS photo
Arab League chief Nabil al-Arabi said on Sunday he hopes Russia and China will change their stance on Syria and allow the UN Security Council to issue a resolution backing a League plan to end the crisis.
“I hope these two countries will alter their position concerning the draft UN Security Council resolution which would adopt the Arab plan,” Arabi said before leaving Cairo for the United Nations in New York.
“Contacts are under way” between the Arab League “and Russia and China on the situation in Syria,” Arabi added, in remarks reported by Egypt’s official MENA news agency.
He said the League’s decision to suspend its monitoring mission on the ground had been taken “because of a significant deterioration of the situation in Syria to ensure the security of the observers.” Arabi on Saturday said the League was pulling out its observer mission which had been on the ground for just over a month “after the Syrian government chose the option of escalation, which increased the number of victims.” The opposition Syrian National Council has called for protests outside Russian diplomatic missions against Moscow opposing a draft European-Arab UN resolution on the crisis that backs the League plan calling on President Bashar al-Assad to quit.
SNC chief Burhan Ghaliun was also travelling to New York on Sunday “to present the Syrian case… and demand protection.” European and Arab nations pushing the new resolution are reported to be reworking the draft after the withdrawal of the League monitoring mission.
The text, backed by Britain, France, Germany and Arab Security Council member Morocco, calls on the international community to back the Arab League plan to end the crisis.
The League plan looks to a halt in the violence and Assad transferring power to his deputy ahead of negotiations.
Moscow opposes the draft resolution, and has proposed its own draft assigning equal blame for the violence on both Assad and the opposition, an option dismissed by the West.
January/29/2012
January 29th, 2012, 12:35 pm
zoo said:
Arab FMs to meet next Sunday on Syria
2012-01-30 00:09:11
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/30/c_122626754.htm
CAIRO, Jan. 29 (Xinhua) — The Arab foreign ministers will hold an urgent meeting at the Arab League (AL) headquarters in Cairo next Sunday on the Syrian issue, the AL deputy chief said Sunday.
The meeting will be chaired by Qatari Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani, who also heads an Arab ministerial committee in charge of handling the Syrian crisis, AL Deputy Secretary General Ahmed bin Helli was quoted by Egyptian official news agency MENA as saying in a statement.
The meeting will discuss a report by Sheikh Hamad and AL Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi, who are at the United Nations seeking support for the AL peace plan for the Syrian crisis, Helli said.
The ministers will also discuss the status of the AL observer mission in Syria, which has already been suspended, to decide whether to withdraw the monitors or alter the nature of their mission, he added
January 29th, 2012, 12:42 pm
zoo said:
Syrian army enters restive Damascus suburbs to confront armed men
2012-01-30 00:09:25
DAMASCUS, Jan. 29 (Xinhua) — The Syrian military entered Sunday some restive suburbs of the capital Damascus to confront what the government described as “armed terrorist groups,” a witness told Xinhua anonymously.
The army has entered restive suburbs such as Douma, Harasta, Ghouta and Kafr-batna, the source said.
Earlier Sunday, an armed group targeted a military bus with a roadside bomb in the Damascus suburb of Sahnaya, killing six soldiers, including two officers, according to official SANA news agency.
Meanwhile, the Doha-based al-Jazeera TV cited activists as saying that at least 48 people were killed during the army’s operations in restive neighborhoods of Damascus.
(…}
January 29th, 2012, 12:44 pm
Alan said:
378. HAYTHAM KHOURY
عاااااااااااجل عااااااااااااجل عاااااااجل انشقاقات في ساحة العباسيين وشارع بغداد في دمشق
لوين مستعجل ؟
ثمانية سنوات و نصف ، و الولايات المتحدة بأعتى امكاناتها لم تسطع الفصل في العراق وانسحبت باقتصاد منهك و بفردة جزمة في وجهة رئيسها! هل تظن ان كل أموالي قطر و السعودية ستكون كافية للفصل ؟ الاسرائيلي فقط من طرفكم يدرك البعد الحقيقي للموضوع ! خدلك اركيلة !
January 29th, 2012, 12:49 pm
jad said:
Why I defend Syria
Dr. Omar Dhaher
“I defend Syria because I do not want to see American or French tanks in the streets of Damascus with Israeli journalists covering the news freely, reporting scenes of falling statues of Assad with the intention of having them replaced with statues of apes. This did happen in Iraq. I defend Syria because I do not want to hear that Jewish extremists have come to swim in Barada River, claiming that they have been promised to do so as they are doing now at the River Tigris. I defend Syria because I see in it the Grenada of today, the last Arabic bastion of dignity. If it falls, God forbid, that will be the end of Arabs. Syrian brothers, do not allow Netanyahu to enter Damascus disguised with Saudi head dress and a Qatari sandal.”
“أدافع عن سوريا لأني أحب سوريا وشعب سوريا، ولا أريد أن أرى عراقاً آخر تُقطّع أوصاله ويُقتّل فيه الناس كل يوم بالجملة في الشوارع وفي الجوامع وفي الكنائس. أدافع عن سوريا لأني لا أريد أن أرى دبابات أمريكية أو فرنسية في شوارع الشام تترجل منها الصحفيات الإسرائيليات ليغطين بكل حرية وتشفي مشاهد سقوط تماثيل الأسد التي يراد أن تحل محلها تماثيل القردة. حصل ذلك في بغداد. أدافع عن سوريا لأني لا أريد أن أسمع أن متطرفي اليهود جاءوا يسبحون في نهر بردى ويدّعون أنهم موعودون بذلك كما يفعلون في نهر دجلة. أدافع عن سوريا لأني أرى أنها غرناطة العصر الحديث، آخر قلاع الوجود العربي، إن سقطت – لا سامح الله – فعلى العرب السلام. أخي السوري لا تدع نتانياهو يدخل دمشق متخفياً بغترة وعقال سعوديين وبنعال قطري”
د. عمر ظاهر
http://www.arabtimes.com/portal/article_display.cfm?ArticleID=25568
January 29th, 2012, 12:55 pm
jad said:
ALan,
LOLOL Good one 🙂
Haytham,
Seriously, Alabaseyyen plaza defected! Form who the Stadium next to it or the Supermarket?
Baghdad Street too? Oh I see it, if you check Google map you can see that Baghdad Street is moved to 7feer Alfo2a حفير الفوقا
January 29th, 2012, 12:58 pm
Tara said:
Kandahar
Toto? Mea Culpa! What was I thinking by calling you Kandi? I like Foufou or Joujou but not Toutou.
I am watching Beauty and the Beast in 3D with my daughter as I am writing this post. Bell is ok but my favorite is Ariel. She is the prettiest. Can’t post much for the next hour or two as I like to give Yara, my daughter and the people I like my undivided attention but could not resist answering.
January 29th, 2012, 1:02 pm
Anton said:
Dear Zoo @387
I called my Family in Damascus today, they confirm that the syrian’s armies enters all cities around Damascus and have all off them under control by now…
Damscuse is very quite and business as usual.
Good bless Syria , the Syrian people and the Syrian army
January 29th, 2012, 1:07 pm
Tara said:
Ah.. Just saw something. I have a link I can’t wait to post…..Unfortunately, can’t cut and paste using a smart phone. Later.
January 29th, 2012, 1:07 pm
jad said:
Occupiers in any shape have no place in our homeland ever:
اغنية جوليا بطرس – مقاوم 2012
http://youtu.be/MuVrsWkuhGA
January 29th, 2012, 1:16 pm
jad said:
No to militarization of the uprising.
No to international intervention.
No to sectarianism.
It will destroy Syria and kill more Syrians.
هيئة التنسيق الوطنية في سوريا
معا من أجل سوريا حره وديمقراطيه
عن وضع الثورة؛
إنها في استمرار دائم، ولكن؛
من يحولها لمسلحة فهو يقتلها، السلاح لحماية المتظاهرين.
من يتخيل حلاً عن طريق الجامعة العربية، نقول له:لا، الجامعة لا شيء، الثوار كل شيء
من يتخيل حلاً عن طريق مجلس الأمن، نقول له: لا، المجلس للتفاوض على سورية
ثقوا بالشعب، كونوا جزءاً منه، مجلس الأمن لا يقود الثورة، لا تستمروا بالتفريط بالثورة
إنكم تشوهوها. تقولون بالسلاح وبالتدويل العسكري. هذا يعني أن السلاح من أجل التدخل العسكري، هذه كارثة حقيقية، القوى التي تعمل فقط من أجل هذا هي بالضبط كالنظام، تريد التضحية بالشعب الثائر.
سورية في خطر نعم، لأن الثورة في خطر فقط.
يتحمل النظام المسؤولية الكاملة عن أي تدويل وعسكرة، ولكن هناك أطراف في المجلس الوطني تتحمل نفس المسؤولية، وبما يخص حصراً تحويل الثورة لمسلحة ولخطر التدخل العسكري؛ أو ما يؤدي إلى مخاطر تتساوى مع التدخل الخارجي.
ثقتنا بالسوريين فقط، الثورة تنجح بقدراتهم، وقد نجحت في الأشهر السابقة.
لا نريد من يتقن القتل، أن يتحكم بمستقبل بلادنا
على النظام أن يرتدع وعلى هواة القتل ان يخرجوا من الثورة
فهي بدونهم ثورة حقيقية وعبرهم ثورة مضادة، ولكن مع تغيير في السلطة.
سيزولون، فالناس قد تصفق قليلا ولكنها ستكنس كل من لا يقود سورية نحو:
دولة مدنية، إعطاء الفقراء حقوقهم، العمل على استعادة الجولان، التنديد بكل من جلب التدخل العسكري.
نريد سورية لكل السوريين؛ المنطق الطائفي منطق تقسيم ومحاصصة وتدمير لإرث سورية في العلمنة والحداثة، كبنيات أولية.
لنعمل من أجل سورية لكل السوريين، القوى المدنية واليسارية ومختلف المؤيدين لهذا التوجه عليهم التشارك، وإلا فإن هناك الكثير الكثير من القذارات ستستخدم ضد سورية شعباً وأرضاً.
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عمار ديوب
January 29th, 2012, 1:28 pm
jad said:
Zouzou,
I told you so! Ayman Abd Alnour is a LIAR:
بعد نشر أنباء تفيد بمنح حزبهم إدارة ذاتية في محافظة الحسكة
صالح مسلم لسوريا الجديدة: ما نشر في موقع كلنا شركاء كذبة كبرى بحجم المأساة السورية
2012-01-29
صرّح المهندس صالح مسلم رئيس حزب الاتحاد الديمقراطي لسوريا الجديدة بأنهم كحزب مشاركون في الثورة السورية منذ بدايتها. و أنهم استطاعوا الحفاظ على استمراريتها وسلميتها في المناطق الكردية كما رأوها مناسباً. و أضاف مسلم بأنهم لازالوا على موقفهم هذا و الذي يتناسب مع نهج هيئة التنسيق الوطنية التي هم جزء منها و أنهم يساهمون في جميع قراراتها ومواقفها.
و قال مسلم بأنه لا يمكن الادعاء بأنهم يقفون إلى جانب النظام الاستبدادي القمعي الذي سفك دمائهم على مدى سنوات و أضاف: نحن الحزب الكردي الوحيد الذي قدم شهداء في أقبية مخابرات النظام، فهل يمكن أن نقف إلى جانب جلادينا؟
و قال مسلم بأن الذين يعملون من أجل سفك الدم السوري وتسببوا في تسليح الثورة ولا يعرفون سوى العنف نهجاً ولهم علاقات مع بؤر لاتهمها الدم السوري يحاولون تلطيخ مواقف حزبهم ومواقف هيئة التنسيق الوطنية منذ البداية، ويشيعون مثل هذه الأكاذيب, مؤكدا ما نشر في موقع كلنا شركاء كذبة كبرى بحجم المأساة السورية على حد تعبيره.
و أضاف مسلم حزبهم يساهم في تأسيس النظام البديل الذي يراه مناسباً للشعب الكردي بل ولكل سوريا بعد زوال النظام الاستبدادي الراهن، وهو نظام الإدارة الذاتية الديمقراطية، قائلا بأن “الزبداني” قد بدأت بتطبيقه على أرض الواقع في الآونة الأخيرة على حدا تعبيره.
و قد كان موقع كلنا شركاء قد نشر يوم أمس خبرا مفاده بأن النظام السوري قد منح حزب الاتحاد الديمقراطي إدارة ذاتية في محافظة الحسكة و أن النظام أعطى الصلاحيات الكاملة لأعضاء الحزب لقيادة أمر الحدود وخاصة الوضع الجمركي، وعمليات التهريب التي تحصل بين الدولتين وفقا لما جاء في الخبر.
إعداد: مكسيم العيسى
http://thenewsyria.net/syria_article.php?z=ar&id=4568
January 29th, 2012, 1:34 pm
jad said:
“الجالية السوريية في اميركا Syrian People in Usa
كل ما تكتبه صفحات العورة عن سقوط ساحة العباسيين بيد الفوار … أو جعلها كراج للدبابات عار عن الصحة.
كل ما تروجه صفحات العورة عن قطع طرق في العاصمة دمشق عار عن الصحة.
كل ما يروج عن إيقاف حركة المطار أو تشديد أمني في العاصمة كاذب وغير صحيح.
سماع انفجارات قوية من جهة الغوطة و تحديدا من جهة المليحة حتى الساعة 11 ظهرا وشعر بها سكان جرمانا بشكل واضح و قوي.
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حاولت صفحات العورة ترويج تنحي الرئيس بشار الأسد و سفره وهذا الخبر لا يحتاج إلى تعليق”
January 29th, 2012, 1:43 pm
Ghufran said:
There is now a consensus that a political change at the top must take place but nobody seems interested in seeing Damascus being run by armed thugs who are now trying to stop flights to and from DIA by spreading rumors and attempting to get close enough to the airport to fire at it.
The latest campaign by the Syrian army received a green light from Russia and was met with relative silence from the US, nobody should push for a chaotic collapse of the regime especially armed forces, it is not good for anybody.
January 29th, 2012, 2:28 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Qatar and KSA and the rest of GCC,are needed to send military support to the fSA, The number of FSA is getting much larger , they are groups that are getting closer to each other.
The leader of SNC must be one of the FSA
January 29th, 2012, 3:05 pm
Alan said:
Qatar and KSA, GCC,FSA, SNC !!!
January 29th, 2012, 3:14 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Damascus and Aleppo are beginning to rise actively against Assad. Of course the first movements are coming from poor areas like Ghouta, Douma, Sabqa, and other parts on Rif Dimasq. There is a dramatic change in the regime strategy. Now 4th Division must send troops to Damascus outskirts leaving some places without forces enough. It could lead to the final loss of Hama, Homs, Idleb and other provinces of Syria to the beneffit of FSA.
Assad milicias would centre their efforts in defending Damascus and Aleppo. But we should consider that if Assad forces could not totally control isolated villages as Rastan, Zabadani or Jisr Shugour, it may be much more difficult to control areas connected to Damascus Capital, where millions of people could defy the regime in a street milicias war. Also we should consider that there is a ring of poor suburbs around Damascus that could asphyxiate the city center in a gradual and dramatic aproach to Assad centres of power.
What has happened in Syria is a real nightmare for all but we are probably beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. The 4th Division has probed not powerfull enough to subyugate the syrian people.
January 29th, 2012, 3:28 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
الجزيرة ماجد عبدالهادي يتقارب الصراع المسلح بين الجيش الحر وكتائب الأسد من العاصمة 29 1 2012
January 29th, 2012, 3:36 pm
jad said:
OPPOSITION GROUPS IN SYRIA: MYTHS AND REALITIES
By Andrew Spath
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“The challenge is most apparent among the two most prominent and internally diverse umbrella organizations – the SNC and the National Coordinating Body (NCB). While disagreements within the SNC have been apparent since its genesis, [9] in-fighting flared recently over a draft agreement between the two organizations, signed by SNC leader Burhan Ghalioun and NCB representative Haytham al-Manna, that was summarily rejected by the SNC executive council. [10] The most contentious points of disagreement are support of foreign intervention, dialogue with Assad’s government, and relations with the Free Syrian Army. [11] Fissures within the opposition in general, and within the SNC itself, are exacerbated by a lack of coordination and clarity in public statements. Contradictions between personal views of the Council’s members and its stated positions on international intervention plagued the effort to bring together the SNC and NCB in December. [12]
The divisions among regime challengers do not end there. There are, of course, significant differences between secularists and Islamists. [13] But even among the Islamists, as seen recently in Egypt, different views persist about the direction of the revolution and visions of a post-Assad Syria. Only recently have leading Muslim scholars from various Islamic trends come together in search of a formula to unite in support of the revolution. [14] Moreover, growing feelings of frustration toward the larger opposition organizations persist among many protesters on the ground. With a growing power vacuum on the ground, divisions are sharpening between the activists on the ground and the opposition in exile. [15] Bearing the immediate threats of the government’s violent tactics to suppress the uprising, it is not surprising that some protesters feel the dissident parties in exile are “in one valley and the [domestic] revolutionaries in another valley.” [16]
The oversimplification of a singular “opposition” suggests that there is a coherent and coordinated government waiting in the wings that will facilitate a smooth transition upon Assad’s downfall. The model reflects the Libyan experience of creating an internationally recognized transitional council as the legitimate representative of the opposition, a designation sought by the SNC since October and one that may facilitate international intervention. [17] While the Libyan opposition became decidedly militarized, the Syrian National Council is treading a fine line between advocating military intervention and its commitment to “safeguarding the non-violent character of the Syrian revolution” that bolsters its domestic and international legitimacy. [18] Recently, the SNC began direct coordination with the Free Syrian Army, though the body has been careful to convey that the FSA is not its “armed wing.” [19] Unlike the Libyan Transitional Council, however, the Syrian National Council has yet to gain international recognition as the sole representative of the Syrian people partly because of the challenges to coordinate and unite the various opposition factions.”
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“Across the board, opposition organizations have worked to dispel the fears of minorities and challenge the framing of the crisis in sectarian terms. [21] They have charged the government with provoking sectarian conflict and have made it a point to highlight the significant involvement of Alawis, Druze, Kurds, and Christians in their ranks and on the street, particularly in highly heterogeneous cities like Tartous and Banias. [22] Since the beginning of the revolution, concerted displays explicitly against sectarian discord demonstrate the alternative narrative of national and confessional tolerance and the shared plight of life under autocracy. [23] Protest chants, official stances of opposition groups, and online Facebook pages[24] explicitly reject the politicization of Syria’s diverse ethnic and religious identities. Prominent Druze leader Walid Jumblatt called on the Druze forces in the Syrian military not to participate in the suppression of the opposition. [25] Prominent Christians like Michael Kilo and Fayez Sara are notable members of the opposition, and some Christian leaders have recently stated that they “stand with the demands of the Syrian people.” [26]
At the same time, should a power vacuum, military intervention, or other sources of violence escalation add to fears of anarchy and chaos – an image Bashar al-Assad refers to frequently[27] – a convergence of people into their respective ethno-confessional social groups is very possible. Recent months have not been absent of explicitly sectarian attacks and rhetoric, particularly in areas of Homs. [28]
A nuanced view of the situation displays that sectarianism is “not merely a scarecrow wielded by despots to resist change… but is also not an undying and eternal fact.” [29] Across the board, opposition groups have maintained strong nationalist and anti-sectarian language in their founding documents and public statements. Comparisons with Syria’s neighbors in Iraq and Lebanon, and the vast sectarian violence that were part of civil wars in each country, provide little leverage for anticipating what will unfold in Syria. Iraq’s sectarian crisis was exacerbated by foreign military intervention, and Lebanon’s ethno-confessional composition is more balanced than the Sunni-majority Syrian society. Despite representation of the various minority communities in both the active support and active opposition to the government, many Syrian minorities are taking a more passive “wait and see” approach to the crisis. The challenge is that the longer people wait and the more they see, the more likely it is that fears of violence will increase and sectarian divisions will harden. Simply, sectarian violence is an open question rather than a foregone conclusion.
The declared anti-sectarian nature of the revolutionaries across organizations provide a better model for post-Assad governance than the prospect of smaller insurgent groups that may seek to exploit sectarian identities for political or material purposes. A turn to violent opposition of any kind plays directly into the hands of the government as it attempts to divide, and thereby weaken, the opposition by exploiting fears of “leaping into the unknown.” [30]
More careful assessments of the situation in Syria will consider the complexities of both opposition politics and dynamics of sectarianism. Questions remain as to whether the leading opposition organizations can allay sectarian anxieties. Their best chances of doing so are through further inclusion of the many segments of Syrian society, sustained inclusive rhetoric, and coordination among the opposition bodies in the absence of unification.”
http://www.fpri.org/enotes/2012/201201.spath.syria.html
January 29th, 2012, 4:06 pm
jna said:
Excellent well written article today on the 7ee6an Walls website.
Article written by True and about his observations during a recent trip to Damascus.
http://7ee6an.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/from-syria-with-by-true/
January 29th, 2012, 4:08 pm
newfolder said:
Syria you’re not a lone, a beautiful video of solidarity from all around the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9mu-fvH8K4
January 29th, 2012, 4:10 pm
ss said:
The MB and their friends are bunch of hateful group.
The war against them is not limited to Syria, it is not new either. Abdulnaser nicely jocked about their retarded agenda
جمال عبد الناصر يتحدث عن حواره مع الاخوان عن الحجاب
January 29th, 2012, 4:16 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: SANDRO LOEWE
RE: “…The 4th Division has probed, but is not powerful enough to subjugate the Syrian people…”
Right. Maher’s men aren’t numerous enough to put down the tens of thousands now up in arms against the Assad Mafia. More to the point, Maher needs to work behind the scenes in the shadows. He can’t operate effectively in the light of day with the whole world watching. He’s a horrid man, a character out of Shakespeare, like Richard III:
QUEEN
Out, devil! Thou slewest my husband in the Tower,
And my poor son at the battle of Tewksbury.
RICHARD
Ere you were queen, yea, or your husband king,
I was a pack-horse in his great affairs;
A weeder-out of his proud adversaries,
A liberal rewarder of his friends:
To royalize his blood I spilt mine own.
QUEEN
Yea, and much better blood than his or thine.
January 29th, 2012, 4:41 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
In Lebanon
there was an attempt to assassinate Wisam Al Hassan,some said Ashraf Rifi, both high security officers.The syrian Mukhabarat may be involved.
January 29th, 2012, 5:43 pm
ss said:
408: “The syrian Mukhabarat may be involved”.
Dont worry, just call your beloved Aljazeera and they will make it a sure news.
I think the opposition officially entered a phase of unprecedented hysteria.
January 29th, 2012, 6:14 pm
irritated said:
#405 JNA
ref: “True” article
It is a depressing article that ends with a very condescending statement, probably expected from a typical pseudo-intellectual Syrian bourgeois expat.
January 29th, 2012, 6:34 pm
irritated said:
#409
“The opposition officially entered a phase of unprecedented hysteria”.. and Majedakhaldoon too
January 29th, 2012, 6:36 pm
Hans said:
Nabil Fayad
مقالة للمناقشة:
دولة قوية، معارضات متنافرة وشعب منهك: سوريّا ( 1 )!
أسئلة تطرح علينا من طرف أميركي يعمل اليوم في الحملة الانتخابيّة للمرشح ” المورموني “، ميت رومني؛ ولمّا كنّا على تواصل شبه متواصل مع معظم المحافظات السورية، فإننا نعتقد أن إجاباتنا كانت أقرب إلى الواقعية والحيادية من غيرنا على الأرجح. ولمّا كان توخي الشفافية هو أهم ما نبحث في سوريا الحديثة، فإننا سنقدّم هنا بالحرف ما قلناه للطرف الأميركي:
مما لا شك فيه أن فرضيات كثيرة تطرح اليوم حول مسألة بقاء النظام السوري أو سقوطه. ورغم أننا ننتمي قولاً وفعلاً إلى المعارضة، إلا أن فرضية السقوط تبدو مخيفة لنا، أهمه أنه لا أحد يعلم على وجه الدقة ما الذي يمكن أن يحدث في اليوم التالي لسقوط النظام؛ هذا غير أن المعارضة الأقوى للنظام اليوم هي تلك السلفية-الإسلامية، التي قد تكون أكثر شراسة وإقصائية من السلفية الليبية التي أعقبت سقوط القذافي، بسبب التراكم التكفيري الموجود في المجتمع السوري التعددي؛ إضافة إلى تنافر المعارضات السورية وافتقادها لرؤيا واضحة لما بعد النظام، هذا غير ضبابية المشهد إن تسلمت إحدى تلك المعارضات الحكم، وذلك بالنسبة للشارع السوري، الذي يعاني من فلتان أمني غير مسبوق في تاريخنا ما بعد الفرنسيين، ولا نعتقد إلا أنه سيزداد انفلاتاً إن سقط النظام.
الأسباب التي ترجح برأينا احتمالية بقاء النظام السوري الحالي:
1 – امتلاك النظام لمنظومة أسلحة دمار شامل لا تبدو ملامحها الحقيقية معروفة للكثيرين. وهي التي تحول دون حصول مناطق عازلة أو ممرات آمنة داخل سوريا، كما طالب بذلك المعارضون السوريون في الخارج أو الأتراك الإسلاميون منذ الأيام الأولى للحراك المعارض. وكان طرف قطري قد حكى معنا شخصياً في شهر تموز الماضي عن مناطق عازلة على الحدود السورية التركية، ثم تكرر الحديث في شهر تشرين الثاني الماضي عن منطقة عازلة في الرمثة على حدود الأردن؛ هذا غير الحديث الفرنسي عن ممرات آمنة داخل سوريا. هذا كله لم يتحقق والأسباب كما قلنا عدم إمكانية تحديد نوعية الرد السوري على ذلك. نذكر هنا أن ثلاث قواعد غربية موجودة في تركية وقبرص تقع تحت نطاق المدافع السورية التقليدية. النظام السوري، بعكس نظام القذافي، لم يتخل عن منظومته التسلحية، إن لم يكن قد زاد عليها. وهذه نقطة افتراق هامة جداً تميز بين النظامين البعثي في دمشق ونظام القذافي في طرابلس.
2 – ثمة مسألة هامة جداً تميّز هنا بين النظام السوري من جهة، والنظامين السابقين في مصر وتونس من جهة أخرى: في مصر وتونس، كان ثمة تمايز واضح بين مؤسسة الرئاسة والمؤسسة العسكريّة-الأمنية؛ من هنا كان بالإمكان تغيير مؤسسة الرئاسة دون أن تنكسر المؤسسة العسكريّة-الأمنية، وبالتالي دون أن ينكسر البلد برمته. في سوريا الوضع مختلف تماماً لأسباب لسنا في وارد ذكرها الآن. في سوريا ثمة تلاحم عضوي بين مؤسسة الرئاسة والمؤسسة العسكرية-الأمنية وإلى حد ما المؤسسة الاقتصادية. لذلك فإن أي إسقاط محتمل للمؤسسة الرئاسية سيعني حكماً إسقاط المؤسسات الباقية وبالتالي إسقاط البلد كلّه إن لم يكن إنهاءه. سوريا تختلف سياسيّاً عن غالبية دول العالم. في سوريا لا توجد مؤسسات مستقلة عن النظام. في كل دول العالم تقريباً الدولة كمؤسسات مستقلة عن النظام الحاكم ومعارضاته. بمعنى أن المؤسسة تبقى حتى وإن تغيّر النظام. في سوريا، التلاحم غير قابل للانفصال بين النظام والدولة؛ فخمسون عاماً من حكم البعث، أعجبنا ذلك أم لا، جعل معادلة الدولة = النظام الأمر الأكثر طبيعية في سوريا. بغض النظر عن عدم وجود معارضة في سوريا، الطرف الثالث في المعادلة السياسية الدولية: دولة، نظام، معارضة.
3 – إن من يتابع خطاب المعارضة السورية الخارجية التي يغلب عليها التيارات السلفية، يعرف عمق الدور الذي لعبته هذه المعارضة وستلعبه لاحقاً في إجهاض أي حراك شعبي يدعو إلى نوع من الديمقراطية في سوريا. فالخطاب الفئوي الأقلوي الإقصائي التكفيري، المعبّر عنه بأسوأ ما يمكن عبر محطات الإقصاء الديني ( وصال وصفا )، ساهم إلى حد بعيد في تحشيد الغالبية العظمى الصامتة من أجل منع سقوط النظام. لأنه لا يعقل أن ننتقل من استبداد سياسي بمرجعية حاضرية إلى استبداد طائفي بمرجعية مغرقة في الماضوية. إن الغالبية العظمى من السوريين، وأقصد بذلك الأقليات الطائفية إضافة إلى السنة العرب من الحداثويين والليبراليين واليساريين والعلمانيين والتجّار الذين لا يخشون شيئاً أكثر من المجهول، يتخوفون بشدة من وصول هكذا منظومة تكفيرية إلى رأس الهرم في سوريا. إن التجربة الليبية الكارثية جعلت الغالبية السورية العظمى الصامتة تخشى من حالة فوضى أو سلفية يمكن أن تأتي في اليوم التالي لسقوط النظام؛ بغض النظر عن تهديد الحرب الأهلية التي نتلمس ملامحها في مناطق التماس الطائفية الساخنة، الأمر الذي تلعب فيه محطات الشحن المذهبي والتحريض العنفي الدور الأبرز. الشارع السوري منقسم كما لم ينقسم من قبل. وهذا أيضاً معاكس للحالات التي شهدناها في مصر وتونس وليبيا، حيث كان النظام في واد والشعب في واد آخر. وهذا كلّه مؤشر على المفارقة البنيوية بين سوريا من جهة، وكل من مصر وتونس وليبيا، من جهة أخرى.
4 – في ما اصطلح على تسميته بدول الهلال الشيعي، ثمة حلقات مترابطة عضوياً إلى درجة هائلة؛ بالتالي فإن أي حديث عن كسر إحدى الحلقات لا يمكن أن تسمح به الحلقات الأخرى لأنه سيسقطها كلها. وما سمعته شخصياً عن الحلقة الأضعف من مسئولين أمريكان في واشنطن عام 2005، أي سوريا، لا يمكن أن يكون واقعياً؛ لأن الحلقات الثلاث الأخرى، إيران والعراق ولبنان، لن تسمح به. وهذا أيضاً يميّز الوضع السوري عن غيره من دول ” الربيع العربي “.
5 – بعكس ما يتصور كثيرون، فإن الوضع الخارجي بدأ يميل إلى صالح النظام السوري: الانتخابات الفرنسية وحاجة ساركوزي إلى أصوات الأرمن خلقت شرخاً هائلاً مع الأتراك؛ ومعروف أن ساركوزي وأردوغان هما عرابا المعارضة السورية الخارجية؛ هذا الخلاف انعكس على الفور خلافات ” غير ديمقراطية ” في صفوف المعارضة السورية الخارجية التي تدعو ليل نهار إلى إسقاط هذا النظام لأنه غير ديمقراطي، وهو ما انعكس بدوره على الشعارات الإقصائية العنيفة التي ظهرت في يوم الجمعة، السادس من كانون الثاني. كذلك فإن مرض أردوغان، ودخول أميركا في دوامة الانتخابات سيزيدان من فرص البقاء أمام النظام السوري.
6 – إن روسيا كقوة دولية تعود للصعود من جديد ترى أن مناكفة الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية أمر هام للغاية من أجل ترسيخ نوع من التفوق لها من جهة، كما أنها تتخوف من المخاطر المرافقة لوصول منظومة حكم سنية متطرفة إلى سوريا تنسّق مع حكومة العدالة والتنمية أو تدور في فلكها من جهة أخرى. – هذا غير التخوّف الروسي من انتقال الموجة السلفية الإسلامية إلى شمال القوقاز وباقي الجمهوريات ذات الغالبية الإسلامية في روسيا الحالية.
7 – ترى الصين في موجة السلفية السنية التي يقودها حزب العدالة والتنمية اليوم أنها تشكّل خطراً على أمنها القومي. ففي غرب الصين توجد أقلية الإيغور التركمانية في اقليم كسيانغ جين، الذي يسميه أردوغان والقاعدة تركستان الشرقية. يضاف إلى ذلك أن وسط آسيا هو الحلقة الأهم في السيطرة على قلب العالم والجسر الأوراسي. وقسم كبير من شعوب تلك المنطقة ناطق بالتركية القديمة.
8 – تنظر الأوساط المالية والنفطية الروسية إلى سوريا والمنطقة ككل على أنها جزء من مناطق الصراع على خطوط إمداد الطاقة. وهنا يتدخّل بقوة العامل الجيوبوليتيكي للنفط المترافق مع مخاوف جيوسياسية لروسيا من نشر الدرع الصاروخي في تركيا. من هنا يمكن أن نفهم اعتبار روسيا أن إسقاط النظام السوري مسألة أمن قومي روسي داخلي.
9- منذ بداية الأزمة في سورية، وقبل أن تظهر ملامحها، وتعلن مبررات تحركاتها الشعبية لإقناع الداخل والخارج على حد سواء بالقضية المتفق عليها فيما بين أطياف الشعب، أي ” الحرية الفكرية”، رُسمت المعارضة وتكونت من رحم الدول الغربية والعربية بسرعة البرق، مما جعلها تأخذ الطابع الإعلامي “الهجومي” على النظام، دون برنامج واحد موحد، يرسم سياسة المرحلة القادمة، بجميع ظروفها، الأمر الذي كشفت عنه مؤخراً الخلافات المدوية فيما بين المعارضة، لأن وجودهم فرضته الأحداث لا القضية أو الأشخاص. وبالتالي فالمعارضة ممزقة قبل أن تُعلن، ولن تستطيع أن ترقع ما مزقه النظام في تنظميها رغم إعلامه المتخلف.
10- استطالة الزمان بالحراك لم تكن قط في صالح المعارضة. فدخول العصابات على خط المعارضة؛ تفشي القتل الطائفي والتصفيات السياسية على الساحة السورية؛ الممارسات الإجرامية التي تركت الانطباع بين عامة الناس بأن المعارضة وراءها وهي ليست كذلك – كلّ هذا خلق حالة من التململ الشعبي وصلت حدود الرفض؛ بغض النظر عن سيف الفقر الذي بدأ يطل بقامته فوق رؤوس الجميع؛ وإحساس اللاأمان الذي دفع بكثير من سكان المناطق المضطربة القادرين على ذلك، كحمص مثلاً، إلى هجرة أماكن سكناهم والفرار باتجاه مناطق أكثر أماناً، ما تزال تحت قبضة النظام القوية.
11 – افتقاد القوى المعارضة المسلحة الموجودة على الأرض المرجعية الواحدة، وممارساتها الانتقامية بحق من تعاون مع النظام أو عمل له؛ بمعنى أننا خرجنا من منظومة أمنية ذات مرجعية واضحة، إلى منظومات لا حصر لها، أكثر أمنية وسلطوية من تلك السابقة، وتفتقد بالكامل إلى المرجعية التي يمكن أن تتيح للمواطن العادي فرصة اللجوء إليها إن أحس بالمظلومية.
معارضة أم معارضات: أبرز قوة في النظام هي ضعف المعارضة!
مما لا شكّ فيه أن المعارضة صارت جزءاً من التقاليد الديمقراطية في أي بلد يعمل بهذه المنظومة السياسية. ومما لا شكّ فيه أيضاً أن سوريا تفتقد منذ أكثر من نصف قرن ما يمكن أن نسميه ” بالمعارضة الحقيقية “، رغم ما يحاولون ادعاءه بما يفيد العكس؛ هذا غير الافتقار المطلق في هذا البلد التعددي الهام للتقاليد الديمقراطية بشكلها المعاصر. من هنا، فالصورة السياسية مشوهة تماماً ولا بد من إعادة إصلاحها إن أردنا لهذا البلد الخروج من زمن القرون الوسطى.
ما يميّز المعارضة السياسيّة، الخارجية والداخليّة على حد سواء، افتقادها الكامل للتقاليد السياسية الحقيقية العلمية، بسبب غياب البلد، كما قلنا، عن كافة أشكال الحراك السياسي الفعلي. لذلك فالتخبط والإقصائية أهم صفتين للمعارضة بكافة أشكالها؛ ولا بد للزمن أن يقوم بدوره هنا إن أردنا التعلّم من التجربة ومفهوم الصح والخطأ.
إن من تابع أدبيات أحد طرفي المعارضة الخارجية، المجلس الوطني، من الطرف الآخر، هيئة التسيق، في مظاهرات يوم الجمعة الذي أعقب الفشل في التنسيق بين الطرفين، يكتشف دون عناء مدى إقصائية تلك المعارضة وإرهابية مفرداتها؛ بغض النظر عن نكهتها التي تزداد سلفية مع كل أسبوع، حتى بدأت تظهر وكأنها طالبانية بلبوس علماني.
إن وجود معارضة علمية حضارية سلمية واعية هو أهم ما تحتاجه سوريا الجديدة. لكن الواقع أن المعارضة بشكلها الحالي هي النظام مكرر، وإن بصورة أكثر تشويهاً. لذلك نعتقد أن إصلاح المعارضة هو الخطوة الأولى من أجل إعادة بناء سوريا سياسيّاً.
توصيف المرض بدقة هو نقطة البداية في صيرورة العلاج السياسي لمرض سوريا ديمقراطياً. وإذا ما أردنا الخروج من أمراض الماضي، لا بد من أن نتجرّأ على قول الحقيقة للمريض، مهما كان المرض خطيراً. إن أبرز مواصفات المعارضة ” غير الإيجابية ” هي تلك التي يمكن تصنيفها ضمن إطار ” أمراض النظام “، التي طبعت الحياة السياسية في سوريا ككل:
1 – الفئوية. فرغم أن المعارضة تتهم النظام بأنه جماعة فئوية تمثّل شريحة معينة من الشعب، فالمعارضة لم تخرج عن هذا التأطير المَرَضي السوري، مهما حاولت إيهام الناس بما يفيد العكس، عبر نوع من الإجراءات التجميلية الخارجية التي لا يمكن أن تنفي عن تلك المعارضة فئويتها الطائفية الواضحة. إن فئوية المعارضة الطائفية واحدة من عناصر قوة النظام، لأنها تبقي تلك المعارضة ضمن إطار طائفي ضيّق، لا يمكن إلا أن يثير حفيظة باقي مكونات الشعب من غير المنتمين لتلك الفئة الطائفيّة.
2 – الإقصائية. فرغم أن طروح تلك المعارضة تحاول أن تطبع ذاتها بالطابع الديمقراطي نظريّاً، إلا أنها في مواقفها العملية هي الأكثر إقصائية بين كل المكونات السياسية للمجتمع السوري. وكما أشرنا من قبل، فقد تبين من مواقف المجلس الوطني الإقصائية من هيئة التسيق، أن الإقصائية، إن لم نقل العنف، هي السمة الأميز لتلك المعارضة.
3 – الماضوية-السلفية. فرغم أن من يسوّق للمعارضة أمام الرأي العام الخارجي هم العلمانيون عموماً، فإن السلفيين هم من يقودون الحراك الداخلي على أرض الواقع. هذه الماضوية السلفية ستزيد من فئوية المعارضة ومن إقصائيتها، من ناحية؛ وستولد ماضويات-سلفيات ” ردات-فعليّة ” عند الطوائف الأخرى من غير جماعة الغالبية التي تشكل الحاضن الاجتماعي للحراك الشعبي، من ناحية الأخرى.
4 – افتقادها للحس العلمي-المعرفي في مقاربتها للوضع السوري. فالمعارضة السورية، خاصة المجلس الوطني، ما تزال تتعامل بمنطق ردات الفعل الغرائزية في مقاربتها للشأن السوري. فإذا كانت غرائزية النظام هي التي تحتل صدر صورة الصراع بين النظام وأعدائه، فإن غرائزية المعارضة هي الرد الأوضح على ما يفعل النظام.
5 – افتقادها الحقيقي للنَفَس الديمقراطي. إن ما نراه على الساحة السورية كل يوم، يؤكّد بما لا يدع مجالاً للشك أن المعارضة السورية لا تعرف ألف باء الديمقراطية؛ بمعنى أن الشعب السوري مدعو للثورة اليوم على منظومة إقصائية دكتاتورية، كي تحل محلّها مجموعة إقصائية دكتاتورية أخرى.
6 – ارتهان المعارضة للخارج بالمطلق. فرغم كل المظاهر الخادعة، المعارضة السورية مرتهنة للخارج بالكامل. بل إن بعضاً من أبرز رموزها، كان يستعد لمفاوضة النظام من أجل العودة إلى سوريا سلمياً. هذا يعني، أنه لولا الصدام بين النظام وأعدائه من العرب وغير العرب الذين كانوا على علاقة في غاية الحميمية مع هذا النظام الذي كان أكثر توتاليتارية من الآن، واضطرار أعداء النظام إلى استخدام رموز سورية من أجل ضرب النظام داخلياً، لما ظهرت هذه المعارضة بهذا الشكل على الإطلاق.
7 – النفاق الوصولي. الحقيقة أن الموقف من الديمقراطية غير قابل لأن يتجزأ. لا يمكن أن نفهم كيف يمكن لداعية ديمقراطي أن يحارب نظاماً لأنه غير ديمقراطي، ثم يطلب من طرف عربي لا يفهم ألف باء الديمقراطية أن يدعمه في مسعاه؛ لا يمكن أن نفهم كيف يطلب داعية ديمقراطية سوري المساعدة في تغيير الدستور من عربي لا علاقة له بالدساتير.
كل هذا – وهو غيض من فيض – يجعل المعارضات السورية محط تساؤل استفهامي وربما استنكاري من كثير من مكونات المجتمع السور
January 29th, 2012, 6:46 pm
zoo said:
Scores of death among the army and security officers (28)
http://www.dp-news.com/en/detail.aspx?articleid=109973
SYRIA- A bus carrying army personnel near Sahnaya, was attacked Sunday by “An armed terrorist group which planted an explosive deveice and remotely detonated it, killing six persons, including two officers, and injuring six others.”
On Saturday, at Damascus countryside 7 official militants were killed, when an armed terrorist group attacked a bus between Adra and Douma towns.
Also at 3 AM Saturday, an oil pipeline at south of al-Quriye in Deir Ezzor was exploded by an explosive device that planted by terrorist group. The explosion caused a fire around the place at a pipeline that was filled with oil, and to lose about 2000 barrels of oil.
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In Hama, the hideouts of armed terrorist groups at al-Farayeh, al-Hamediyeh, Bab al-Qubli and al-Hader neighborhoods were stormed by Syrian Authorities which seized large amounts of weapons, ammunition, communication devices and stolen archeological findings dating back to the first millennium B.C.
Authorities also recovered 7 state and private cars which the armed terrorist groups stole from different places in the country. The armed terrorist group used holes in walls of al-Hamediyeh bakery to target the military and civilians in neighborhood.
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Twenty eight army and law-enforcement martyrs were carrying Saturday to their final resting places from Tishreen, Homs Military and Damascus Police Hospitals.
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SANA indicated that “martyrs were killed by armed terrorist groups in Homs, Hama, Daraa, Deir Ezzor and Damascus Countryside during the line of duty.”
January 29th, 2012, 6:47 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
To those menhebbaks on this forum:
You ideal bubble world in Damascus is getting to its end. It´s not that I did not like the peace and calm in the streets of the capital. Or the happiness of living a quiet life, with good food, good people and good disconection from the crazy world we live in. But the problem is that to get this idealized and irreal damascene life we had to pay an expensive bill that grew and grew to the profit and beneffit of regime suckers. And that will cost too much to the following generation in terms of educational, critical thinking and professional development.
From some years to the date I have seen crystal clear that this way of driving the country is going nowhere. How can Damascus people keep all day insulting policemen, corrupt officials, bussinessmen, justice corruption, etc, etc, as they always do, while they defend the role of the president and the regime. It´s simply unsustainable and schizophrenic. Now we are months or maybe years away from the end of this decaying system of thinking. Young people in Syria will enjoy a much more human life.
January 29th, 2012, 6:51 pm
agatha said:
Maybe this is in the interest of some of you
Russland und der arabische Frühling
http://www.swp-berlin.org/fileadmin/contents/products/aktuell/2012A04_kle.pdf
Interview mit Rafik Schami (tw auch zur politischen Lage in Syrien):
http://www.videoportal.sf.tv/video?id=029f38fc-60d6-44bb-85a4-cf3cdee34091
January 29th, 2012, 6:54 pm
zoo said:
Give Tartus to the Russians and they’ll change side?
How to get Russia on board in Syria? Hint: Think of the sea
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/how-to-get-russia-on-board-in-syria-hint-think-of-the-sea-.aspx?pageID=449&nID=12543&NewsCatID=424
This is where Putin’s support to al-Assad comes in. The Russian base in Tartus, which al-Assad’s father leased to Moscow in the 1970s, represents a long line of Russian naval stations in the Mediterranean. Furthermore, Tartus is the last Russian warm-water base.
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The question now is how to allay Russia’s warm-water anxiety. The ideal solution would be to offer Russia a maritime base somewhere else on the Mediterranean. Unfortunately, no state seems eager to accept this proposal, not even the last Russia-friendly nation in the Mediterranean, the Greek Cypriots. Though there are two sovereign British bases on Cyprus, the people there know that they would be opening up a can of worms with Turkey if they were to offer Russia a military foothold on the island.
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Thus, the only alternative to Tartus is Tartus. The Syrian opposition needs Russia to get rid of al-Assad. Hence, the opposition needs to reassure the Russians that once al-Assad falls, Moscow will continue to enjoy access to the Tartus base – and there are some signs this could be already happening. Russia will get on board in Syria if assured that it can continue to sail in warm waters.
January 29th, 2012, 7:05 pm
zoo said:
Hold your horses
The time is not yet right for foreign military intervention in Syria
Jan 28th 2012 | from the print edition
http://www.economist.com/node/21543542/print
“I STICK my neck out for nobody,” drawls Rick in “Casablanca”. “A wise foreign policy,” says Captain Renault. But is it? Over the past ten months Syria has slid to the brink of civil war. Firefights, ambushes, massacres and bombings take place almost daily. Defying international sanctions, the regime kills protesting citizens by the dozen. The opposition, once hostile to all violence, has started to take up arms that increasingly pour in from neighbouring Lebanon. Aided by army defectors, it gains and loses control of small patches of territory, but it will not soon win the upper hand without more help.
Some outsiders, including the emir of Qatar and a growing number of analysts at American think-tanks, have begun to call for military action. One argument for intervention is consistency: the bloodshed in Syria is even worse than it was in Libya under Qaddafi. If outside powers have a responsibility to protect people from a mass-murdering tyrant, then surely Syria, where more than 5,000 have been killed in a campaign of state violence, is a prime candidate. Another is that several regional powers are already backing proxies in this fight. Iran and Russia aid the regime; Saudi Arabia and Turkey favour the rebels. Left alone, the rival camps will fuel a worsening conflict that could destabilise the entire region.
Military action would satisfy the understandable desire to do something—anything—in the face of terrible suffering. But it is unlikely to bring the conflict to a quick or satisfactory end, not least because opponents of the regime are divided. Dissidents have formed clashing camps and defectors follow rival officers, each commanding only a few hundred men.
There is no workable plan for an intervention. A no-fly zone would be useless, as the Syrian air force has not flown. Safe havens near the borders could protect citizens but they would soon need defending against regime troops. Striking the army—as in Libya—is an option but would not change the overall situation. Unlike in Libya, no unified rebel force is ready to sweep into the capital, secure the streets and take control.
Even if there were a plan, the cost of a botched intervention would be far higher in Syria. Like Iraq, where the American invasion of 2003 ignited a conflict that killed more than 100,000 people, it has a complex ethnic and sectarian make-up. Perhaps selective strikes on the regime’s most brutal and murderous troops could stop some of the killing and weaken morale among Syria’s rulers—but then again, it might just as easily persuade Bashar Assad to kill even more ferociously.
Military intervention does not make sense unless it has the legitimacy of widespread international backing and the likelihood of success. As yet, it has neither of these things.
Instead, therefore, the outside world must pursue diplomacy. Just now the opposition’s most likely source of outside support is the Arab League, which sent an unarmed observer mission to Syria last month. Predictably, the mission failed to stop the killing. Since then, six Gulf states have withdrawn their members—and rightly so, given that the regime used the observers as cover for its violence.
Yet the mission has set the stage for the Arab League to call on the UN Security Council to endorse a plan under which Mr Assad would transfer power to his deputy in two months and conduct elections in five. This too might fail, but it heightens diplomatic pressure on Mr Assad’s remaining supporters abroad, especially Russia.
Russia will soon have to choose between its troubled ally and the rest of the region. Although it has just sold $550m worth of fighter jets to Syria, its support of the regime has weakened slightly this month. It may eventually be persuaded to back a deal similar to one that this week ended a violent stand-off in Yemen. Under the auspices of several Gulf states, the Yemeni president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, received immunity from prosecution in return for going into temporary exile to allow for a peaceful transition of power.
In Syria that will take time, if it happens at all. Meanwhile, Western countries should help the opposition groups with sanctions and supplies such as medicines. Such aid is modest and piecemeal, but at least it will not make things worse.
January 29th, 2012, 7:11 pm
Tara said:
Pro-government hactivists deface Al Jazeera coverage of Syrian violence
By Sean Gallagher | Published about 3 hours ago
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/pro-government-hactivists-deface-al-jazeera-coverage-of-syrian-violence.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss
The Al Jazeera English website was attacked and defaced on January 29 by hackers supporting Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. Targeting the news organization’s “Syria Live Blog,” which has been providing ongoing coverage of the Arab League’s observer mission to Syria and developments in the ongoing unrest in the country, the hacker group calling itself the Syrian Electronic Army posted pro-Assad and pro-Syrian government images to the site.
The relationship of the Syrian Electronic Army to the government itself is unclear. However, the group’s domain was registered in May of 2011 in Tartous, Syria, and its site is hosted on servers maintained by the Syrian Computer Society—a group Assad was the head of before assuming Syria’s presidency, and introduced the Internet to Syria in 2001.
The attack started at about 2:30 PM Central Time, just after Al Jazeera posted a report on casualties reported by the Local Coordinating Committees, an activist network in Syria. On their own site, the Syrian Electronic Army announced the “code re-penetration” of the site by a “professional Syrian battalion” of hackers, denouncing Al Jazeera for broadcasting “false and fabricated news” to “ignite sedition” among the people of Syria and achieve the goals of “Washington and Tel Aviv.”
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January 29th, 2012, 7:18 pm
Tara said:
I have seen the evil regime
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/i-have-seen-the-evil-regime-.aspx?pageID=449&nID=12541&NewsCatID=423
I have spent the last two weeks in Damascus and its suburbs, and I have seen the Syrian regime’s brutality and oppression with my own eyes.
Central Damascus is strictly controlled by the regime’s security forces. The city’s central roads and squares are filled with police, and there is a heavy security presence. There are a lot of armed security vehicles, blocked roads and heavily protected military complexes throughout the city.
The biggest hotel in Damascus, the Four Seasons, was also one of the emptiest places I saw.
Throughout our long conversations with the managers there, I learned that the hotel has had to fire more than two thirds of its 650 workers and close two of its three high-end restaurants since the revolution began 10 months ago.
Police at the security checkpoints are looking for suspicious-looking people to arrest, both entering and leaving Damascus. On my third day, I was able to get out of the city by taking extreme care to avoid the security’s watchful eyes. Outside Damascus is a completely different story. Only a 20-minute drive brings one to places that are filled with rebels’ revolutionary flags, placards insulting Bashar al-Assad, and graffiti everywhere.
Most, if not all suburbs, are holding “mudahara” protests every night. When I first witnessed a mudahara on Jan. 14, in the Damascus suburb of Qaboun, the regime’s irregular forces, the “shabihas,” attacked unarmed protestors in front of my eyes. Two or three minutes into the demonstrations, when people began chanting “hurriyet,” or “freedom,” Kalashnikovs began shooting indiscriminately into the crowd.
My friends tried to protect me by hurrying me into a car, but it was too late for us to speed away from the scene. I saw shabihas dragging one protestor, shot seconds before, into their car. I saw several others arrested and given heavy beatings. A shabiha in his mid-40s, with white hear and a clean-shaven face, let us go after our driver calmly explained that we were just passing through and had been stopped by the protestors.
This was a lifetime’s experience for me, but something protestors in Syria are going through every day.
During my stay I visited countless families who had lost their sons; saw orphaned little children who still didn’t know what happened to their fathers, uncles and relatives. The regime’s security forces sometimes randomly kill people simply because they are in the wrong place at the wrong time.
But the misery doesn’t end there.
The regime’s security forces systematically arrest all the relatives of a person they just killed in order to silence them. I have heard of many arrested and tortured just because their last names are the same as somebody killed by the security forces. The al-Assad regime clearly demonstrated to me its skills in terrorizing its people.
I visited more than half a dozen different Free Syrian Army (FSA) branches in various cities and the FSA appeared much stronger than anyone described before. Except for central Damascus, every city has its own FSA organization. Some of them were recently formed and are growing fast, others are already taking over the streets during the evenings. They establish their own checkpoints in these ghettos to protect the protesters. I heard over and over again from people on the ground that their only hope is for the FSA to succeed.
Judging from the many FSA leaders and soldiers I talked to, it is clear how determined they are against the Assad regime. Despite all odds, Syrians I talked to, especially in the Rif Dimashq province, are determined more than ever to overthrow this regime. It is up to other governments to be part of this revolution.
January 29th, 2012, 7:40 pm
Hans said:
by بقلم: نارام سرجون on Sunday, January 29, 2012 at 5:41pm
ماحدث في الأشهر الأخيرة من تغير في المشهد الاقليمي وتقلبات الدول والعلاقات في مأساته وغرائبيته أشبه “بالكوميديا الالهية” للشاعر الايطالي “دانتي أليغييري” الذي وصف في ملحمته الخالدة التصورات المسيحية للآخرة وقسّم ملحمته الى ثلاثة أقسام هي: 1- الجحيم 2- والمطهر 3- والجنة ..
والكوميديا الدولية في الربيع العربي أطلقت “مرحلة الجحيم” في تحول أمير بدوي جاهل من أتفه ماأنجبته جزيرة العرب الى منظّر للحريات ينضوي تحت جناحه مثقفون عرب .. والكوميديا تجلت في اندفاع السعوديين المعروفين بحكمهم القروسطي الظلامي خلف شعارات الحرية والعدالة والثورة والبكاء على الشعب السوري ..والكوميديا أيضا تجلت بظهور شخصيات من قاع تخلف المجتمع العربي لتتلاعب بمصير الشعب السوري مثل العرعور والقرضاوي .. بل تجلى الجحيم كله في انقياد مثقفين عرب وسوريين لقيادات دينية وخارجية متناقضة معها تماما مثل برهان غليون وكل رهط استانبول .. والكوميديا الدولية تأبى الا أن تتوج هذا الجحيم الفكري بتصريحات الناتو عن الحرية وحقوق الانسان فيما هو يبول عليها وعلى أبنائها ..
مرحلة الجحيم في الثورات العربية هي التي توّجها وصول “قيادات” اسلامية هزيلة متواطئة مع الغرب .. وفي سورية وصلت الى ذروتها في الظهور المسلح للارهابيين والمهربين الذين سرقوا اسم الثوار من قواميس الشرق المجاهد ومن مسلسلات باب الحارة في محاولة لاستدراج البلاد الى عنف وقلاقل أدت الى كثير من الضحايا والشهداء والى تراجع الشعور العام بالأمن ..
“جحيم” الربيع العربي لن يصل الى “المطهر” الا بعد نبذ هذه التيارات الاسلامية المشوهة بالنفط والغاز التي تطفلت على الاسلام الحقيقي الذي كان اعاد اكتشافه جمال الدين الافغاني ومحمد عبده فقام القرضاوي بايمانه الرث .. ببيعه بالدولار
لكن متى ستنتقل الأزمة السورية الى مرحلة المطهر ..؟؟ أي متى ستنتهي مرحلة الجحيم؟؟ وأين تسير الأحداث بعد ذهاب المراقبين العرب؟
الكل متفق الآن أن الوضع السوري سيتغير بشكل دراماتيكي في أحد اتجاهين ..اما أن يتغير التماسك في المحور السوري-الايراني-الروسي، واما ان يتفكك المحور المقابل الغربي- العربي- التركي بتراجع أحد مكوناته ..
محور الشر العربي –الغربي المناوئ للشعب السوري يصر على تصعيد الجحيم .. والسؤالان اللذان يشغلان كل المحللين السياسيين وكل السوريين هما: هل ستغير روسيا اتجاهها أخيرا مما يعني أن مرحلة الجحيم بلا نهاية وأن لامطهر ولاجنة بعده؟ والسؤال الثاني -وهو أكثر الحاحا – هو لماذا لم تحسم الدولة السورية بشكل كامل؟ هل كما يشاع بأن للاعتراض الروسي على الحسم العسكري أثر؟ هل الدولة من الضعف بحيث لاتتحرك ضد المسلحين؟ اذا ماذا ننتظر؟
لايستطيع أحد الادعاء أنه يعرف يقينا أي جواب الا “الراسخون في العلم السياسي” .. ومايلاحظ أن كل من يواجه السؤال من معسكر السلطة والمعارضة لايعطي جوابا قاطعا عن سبب تأخر الحسم وتبدو عليه الحيرة أحيانا مما يزيد في الحيرة ..خاصة وأن الجميع يدرك مدى قوة السلطة عسكريا التي لن تحتاج الى كبير عناء لالحاق هزيمة ماحقة بالمسلحين خلال أيام ..
فيما يخص السؤال الأول المتعلق بروسيا، فان من يطرحه ليس هو الجانب الرسمي السوري بل هو معسكر الشر الخليجي الاستانبولي .. والغاية منه ابقاء الوطنيين السوريين والشارع السوري في حالة ذعر وهو الذي يمور بالتفاؤل بعد ثبات الدولة السورية في وجه أعنف هجوم عالمي اعلامي- سياسي- ارهابي على دولة .. فتركيز محور الشر على هذا السؤال هو لابقاء المواطن السوري قلقا وينظر الى الخلف لحماية ظهره وليس الى الأمام لمواجهة الأشرار والمشكلة الرئيسية .. وبالطبع لاشاعة الاحباط والتشجيع على النجاة من سفينة “تايتانيك” الغارقة .. وكذلك يروّج الثورجيون تلك الاحتمالات لابقاء القيادة السورية وجمهورها متوترا ويفكر في تقديم تنازلات وطنية في المفاوضات السرية (التي تجري الآن بصمت مع السوريين كما يعتقد) خوفا من مفاجأة تغير روسية تقلب المعادلة على السوريين في آخر لحظة .. خاصة بعد أن تبين أن روسيا تمسك بلجام الغرب وتشده بقوة بعيدا عن سورية..
اعلام الثورجيين والعربان لايستحي طبعا ولايعنيه ان احتقره المشاهد السوري لأن هذا الاعلام توقع انقلابا روسيا في كل يوم منذ عدة أشهر .. حتى أن أحد المعلقين رد ساخرا على هذه القراءة الساذجة بالقول: المعارضون وحلفاؤهم قد وصلوا الى حال يرثى لها في تمنياتهم بشأن روسيا.. ومن يستمع لنبوءاتهم يعتقد أن روسيا ستقرر احتلال سوريا بنفسها .. وأن الأسطول الروسي وحاملة الطائرات قبالة طرطوس جاؤوا لانزال قوات برية للغزو الروسي لسوريا ..!!
بالتأكيد يستغل الاعلام “المراهق” بعض المقولات ويجترّها ليل نهار من مثل أن روسيا باعت العراق وليبيا … وروسيا في النهاية تبحث عن مصالحها .. بل ان الطبال عبد الباري عطوان كلف نفسه وساهم في قرع الطبول وحمل هذه “البطيخة” من قبل الصحافة الاسرائيلية بترويج فكرة أن الروس في النهاية سيبيعون من أجل مصالحهم قبل كل شيء .. وقد غاب عن هذا الصحفي الطبال وغيره – الذي لم تصدق نبوءة واحدة له حتى اليوم – ان روسيا في اصرارها على دعم السلطة السورية تدعم مصالحها هي في بقاء نظام الحكم الحالي وان كل البدائل ستجعل روسيا نفسها متسولة لمصالحها في الشرق..
الاعلام “الرشيد” الخليجي لايستحي حتى من تذكيرنا واستغلال تجربتنا مؤخرا من طعن بعض الأصدقاء ويريدنا أن نؤمن أن الروس سيطعنوننا في الظهر كما فعل الآخرون باعتبار أن كل من كانوا أصدقاء طعنونا في الظهر من صغيرهم حمد الى كبيرهم أردوغان مرورا بصبيان لبنان وملوك رقصة العرضة بالسيوف السعودية ..
لابد أن نعترف الآن ان الشخص الوحيد الذي فاجأنا هو أردوغان أما حمد وصبيان لبنان مثل سعدو وجنبلاط فتاريخهم لايدل على أن لهم أخلاق الفرسان بل هم لايجيدون الا الغدر .. وأمثال وليد بيك جنبلاط لم نعتبر طعنتهم غير متوقعة بل في الحقيقة ما فاجأنا هو تأخر وليد بيك في اخراج نصل خنجره من غمده .. والقياديون السورين كانوا يرون بأطراف أعينهم تحركات ظلال جنبلاط على الأرض خلفهم .. ويتمتمون في كل مرة : يا الله !! هل هذا هو فعلا ابن كمال جنبلاط الذي يقال أنه وطني يريد اعلاء منطق الفروسية وقيم الموحدين؟؟
يكثر الثورجيون من النظر الى روسيا ومن أخذنا عنوة لنرى معهم مسرحية من الخيال السياسي اسمها (حتى أنت يابوتين؟) .. لكن لاأدري لماذا ينسى الثورجيون ظهورهم .. ولايلتفتون .. فهناك مرشح بينهم للانقلاب عليهم وهو ان انقلب انتهت كل اللعبة .. انه تركيا ..ومن هنا يمكن تفسير تلكؤ السوريين في الحسم العسكري الذي يحير الجميع ..فكيف ذلك؟؟
في الحقيقة هناك بعض الهمس الخفيف بين مراقبين غربيين متابعين “للربيع العربي” وصلتني شذرات من آرائهم عبر الايميل من خلال سؤالين وجهتهما لهم ..الأول: عن احتمال انهيار النظام في سوريا اذا ماتغيرت المعادلة بغياب العامل الروسي ..والثاني عن تفسير الغموض في موقف الدولة السورية من الحسم العسكري !! .. فعادت جميع الأجوبة تقول انه لاتوجد أية مؤشرات قوية تؤدي لانهيار النظام .. وبالطبع لادلائل على تغير الروس .. بل على النقيض ..ان تحت السطح مايعاكس ذلك ..
تقول هذه الآراء ان لاحيرة في الاجابة عن سؤال الحسم العسكري ..فالسوريون لديهم كل الامكانيات للحسم ..لكن من الواضح أنهم ينتظرون مفاجأة ..أو يعملون على انتاج مفاجأة ..وهم يتصرفون بنفس خطوات الخصم الذي يريد احداث خرق في الموقف الروسي ..لكنهم كما يبدو يعملون على احداث خرق في المعسكر المناوئ لهم ..وحظوظهم في ذلك أوفر .. اما لماذا فان تقدير الدولة السورية هو ان “مايمكنك تقطيعه بالملعقة لاتقطعه بالساطور” .. وهم مهتمون جدا بأن يتم شلّ المعارضة المسلحة بدل تصفيتها دمويا ..فالسوريون لايفضّلون “حماة” ثانية ولا “عنف الثمانينات” ولا طريقة عبد الحليم خدام ورفعت الأسد، خاصة ان المسلحين يتمترسون في أحياء سكنية .. بالطبع يعمل السوريون على اختراق المسلحين استخباراتيا بعناية، في الوقت الذي تظهر فيه دلائل على أن هناك جهدا لاحداث خرق يشل المسلحين تماما ويشكل حالة صدمة للمعارضة يتمثل في غياب قوة رئيسية داعمة !!
الاختراق العسكري صار واضحا فأحد التقارير التركية يشير الى صورة أحد مسلحي الجيش “الحر” الذي ظهر في احدى اللقطات يرفع شارة النصر كان أحد الذين ألقي القبض عليهم سابقا بتهمة حمل السلاح وأطلق سراحه وهناك تحذيرات من أن هناك كثيرين ممن تم تجنيدهم في المعتقلات لصالح الاستخبارات السورية تم زرعهم في مفاصل المسلحين ..وعملية الاستئصال ناضجة معلوماتيا الآن على الأقل ..
اما بخصوص تغييب احدى القوى الرئيسية المساندة للمعارضة فتقول تفاصيل هذه الآراء أنه فيما يتطلع التحالف المناهض لسوريا لاحداث خرق في موقف روسيا ليكون بداية النهاية في اللعبة السورية فان على هذا التحالف ان ينظر خلفه قليلا.. فلربما وجد أحد الحلفاء للمعارضة قد “كوّع” .. فاللاعب التركي مثلا يبدو متلكئا عن متابعة المشهد واستئناف المباراة ..بعبارة أخرى ليست روسيا هي التي ستنقلب وتغير اتجاه الاحداث .. بل تركيا هي المرشحة أكثر بكثير للانقلاب على مواقفها السابقة ..والمتابع لما يقوله الصحفيون الأتراك مثل علي بولاتش في صحيفة “زمان” الموالية لحزب العدالة والتنمية وابراهيم قره غول وعاكف ايمري يمكن أن يهرش رأسه قليلا في حيرة ..وربما هز رأسه بعد ذلك موافقا ..
وقد لفت أحد الردود نظري الى تصريحات طازجة لعلي أكبر ولايتي كبير مستشاري الأمام علي الخامنئي في الشؤون الخارجية وفيها تحدث بودّ عن تركيا وأن “الأصدقاء” الأتراك يراجعون مواقفهم ..!! وهذا رجل لايتحدث هراء ولايمنح الصداقة جزافا ..
يبدو الأمر صعبا قليلا .. ولكن في رأي هؤلاء المراقبين فان تركيا كانت رأس الحربة الرئيسي في المشروع ضد سوريا غير أن حساباتها تعثرت كثيرا ولم يسقط الأسد في الأسابيع الأولى كما توقعت (أو كما زيّن لها) رغم كل التهديدات والضغوط والعنتريات التركية .. والأزمات بين الدول المتجاورة قد تحتمل عداوة باردة لسنوات وعقود كما هو الحال عبر التاريخ لكنها لاتحتمل سخونة متواصلة وحرائق الا لشهور معدودة خاصة في غياب قدرة من الطرفين على بقاء العيش في الحريق ..بل انه حتى الحروب الطويلة تمر بفترات برود واستراحة .. والأزمة السورية التركية تجاوزت تلك المرحلة ويجب أن تصل الى استقرار ..وبرود النار
الأتراك صاروا الآن يعرفون أن الاستمرار في اللعبة ورطة وأن الرهان على الحصان الخاسر ليس “شطارة” .. وهم يعرفون أن رسائل ايرانية وروسية صارمة قد وصلت اليهم وان كل الدعم من الغرب تبخر .. والأهم أن رسالة الشعب السوري كانت الأكثر حسما ورآها القياديون الأتراك حيث وصل هدير ساحة الأمويين الى قلب مكتب أردوغان حتى اهتزت صورة كمال أتاتورك على الحائط من صدى الحناجر السورية الغاضبة .. أي أن الأتراك اكتشفوا أنهم سيحاربون نيابة عن الآخرين وسيعيشون على حدود الحرائق وربما يلسعهم اللهيب ..علاوة على ذلك فان الأسد لن يطيل سكوته ويستطيع ببساطة اطلاق حرب عصابات في تركيا ردا على عصابات الاخوان القادمة من حدود تركيا ..لتنتقل الحرائق الى تركيا
في تقديرهؤلاء المحللين يلاحظ أن المسؤولين السوريين يتوقفون كثيرا عند كلمة “الحل السياسي” .. وربما ما يقصدون ليس الحل السياسي عبر حل مع المعارضة الخارجية –التي سقطت وطنيا ولادور لهت في الأزمة الا دور الكومبارس- بل عبر حل مع دول “المحور المتآمر” .. ولاتبدو لهجة السياسيين السوريين متحمسة للحسم العسكري حتى وان ذكرها الرجل الهادئ وليد المعلم .. فالحسم السوري تردد بسبب اتصالات ووساطات تريد سحب تركيا من المشروع .. وانسحاب تركيا هو الضربة القاضية للمعارضة ومشروع قطر والسعودية .. والسوري يدرك أن انسحاب تركيا يشبه مايسمى “بقتل الثؤلول الأم” وانقطاع الشريان المغذي للتمرد .. وسيسقط التمرد المسلح بالتالي نفسيا وعسكريا .. وستكون هناك ضربة نفسية خاصة اذا تمت مقايضة أسرى أتراك برأس رياض الأسعد .. حيث يتردد في بعض الأوساط أن هناك أسرى أتراك لم يظهرهم الاعلام السوري تلبية لرغبة تركية ..ويعرض الأتراك المساعدة في اطلاق سراح الايرانيين المخطوفين مقابل الأتراك الضباط (الايرانيون اختطفوا لهذه الغاية) .. لكن السوريين يريدون الى جانب اطلاق الايرانيين رأس رياض الأسعد وبعض الرؤوس الأخرى (؟؟؟).. ليس لأن الأسعد عقل عسكري عملاق وليس لأنه يشكل خطرا عسكريا .. بل لأن الخيانة في العقيدة العسكرية السورية لاتغتفر .. وقد تجرأ الأسعد على ارتكاب الخيانة ..وهذا مالايقبله الجيش السوري وقيادته ..
القضية محرجة جدا للأتراك وصعبة الاخراج رغم أنها ليست مستحيلة منذ أن قيل ان حسين الهرموش قد تمت مقايضته .. وقد يكون السيناريو المقترح بتصفية الأسعد وبعض زملائه بافتعال معركة داخلية في الجيش الحر أو نسفه كليا والادعاء أن عملاء المخابرات السورية اغتالوه .. بل ان أحد المعلقين لم يستبعد أن المسلحين المتسللين من تركيا الذين يجدون القوات السورية بانتظارهم وتتربص بهم وتقتلهم بالعشرات على الحدود التركية يتم التخلص منهم بالتدريج عبر اتفاق بين السوريين والأتراك بتزويد السوريين بكل معلومات تحركهم وقنواتهم ليتم اصطيادهم على الحدود في الشراك السورية.. وبذلك تتخلص تركيا تدريجيا من هذا العبء دون احراج نفسها..
ومايلفت النظر أنه بالرغم من تصريحات أوغلو فلاشك أن العنتريات التركية تراجعت نسبيا ..والسوريون لايعنيهم بقاء جماعة استانبول تمارس نشاطها السياسي وثرثراتها في ضيافة أردوغان الذي يقدم لهم القهوة التركية فهي في النهاية عبء على تركيا طالما انها فشلت في الوصول الى السلطة في سورية وربما لن يطول الوقت حتى تتذمر القيادة التركية من تواجدهم .. بل ان مايعني السوريين هو قطع تركيا لصلتها بالمسلحين ومساعدتها على التخلص منهم بهدوء .. وعدم ايوائهم في معسكراتها ..ومما يشاع الآن أن الحسابات المالية للجيش الحر في تركيا تتعرض لما يشبه الاغلاق والحصار ..
ان انسحاب تركيا الذي يتوقعه البعض هو أمر لامفر منه لمصلحة تركيا قبل كل شيء.. التي في النهاية تريد مصالحها وليس مصالح برهان غليون وبسمة قضماني ..أما انقلاب روسيا فهو محتمل جدا .. ولكن في حالة واحدة فقط .. هي عندما يتراجع شاطئ البحر المتوسط الشرقي الى حدود ايطاليا !!!..
ويعتقد هؤلاء أن العرب (القطريين والسعوديين) يراقبون بقلق تململ تركيا وربما يتناهى الى مسامعهم شيء عن انقلاب تركي ..وهم يريدون الامساك بتركيا واقناعها بالاستمرار قبل أن تنزلق من أيديهم .. فسارعوا لذلك الى دفع القضية السورية الى مجلس الأمن وأوقفوا بسرعة عمل مراقبي الجامعة العربية .. بل وأعلنوا صراحة استعدادهم لتمويل المسلحين وشددوا من أوامر تحريك مجموعات القتلة في المدن السورية لاستفزاز النظام ليقوم بعمل عنيف يفضي الى تدهور الأحداث بشكل ما أو انطلاق حرب أهلية مما يعطي أملا لتركيا بالبقاء مع محور المؤامرة ..
النظام يعتقد انه يهز العصا الغليظة الآن للمسلحين وينظر في نفس الوقت الى تركيا التي ستحدد مصيرهم ..!! وهي بذلك لن تعيد بناء سفنها التي احترقت في دمشق بل على الأقل لن تحرق ما بقي من السفن التي قد يقودها حزب آخر وتركي آخر في رحلة “الغفران” .. ويرى هؤلاء الخبراء أن الأسد جاهز تماما للحسم وبدأ التحرك وهو لايستطيع انتظار المفاجأة الى مالانهاية .. بل ان التلكؤ بالحسم قد يفقده قيمة الانجاز اذا ما تأخر ..الأتراك بدورهم ينتظرون ليقرروا .. واذا ماقرر الأتراك الصفقة فلن يبقى للمسلحين سوى شمال لبنان من ملجأ .. واذا ماتجمعوا هناك .. كانت نهايتهم… والمنطقة كلها تنتظر الصفقة السورية التركية اذا ماتمت ..حتى مصر صار كثير من جمهورها مقتنعا أن مصير ومستقبل مصر مرتبط بأحداث سوريا ..فسقوط سوريا سيعني ان مصر أقبلت على التفكك مثل سوريا .. واذا نهضت سوريا أنهضت معها مصر وأنقذتها من مصير التفكك..ولذلك لاقت جهود الاسلاميين المصريين في اظهار الدعم والتأييد للثورة السورية في المظاهرات الاحتفالية الأخيرة بعض الفتور من الجمهور المصري المتابع ..
في الحقيقة لاأستطيع تحديد اين تكمن القوة او الضعف في هذه الآراء وفي فرضية انقلاب تركيا .. فهي اجتهادات متابعين وباحثين في الشأن السياسي من وجهة نظر غربية محايدة ..لكن من الملاحظ أن صوت تركيا في بداية الأزمة كان عاليا ومصحوبا بالضجيج فيما كان صوت روسيا هادئا .. ثم حدث تبدل منذ الفيتو الرورسي حيث ارتفع صوت روسيا وخفت صوت تركيا .. مما يجعلني أكثر ميلا للاعتقاد أن مالم يتوقعه الثورجيون هو مفاجأة ليست في انقلاب روسي بل ربما في انقلاب تركي ..هذا الانقلاب الذي انعكس في صوت أحد الثورجيين الذين استمعت اليه وهو في مجلس خاص يكيل السباب المقذع وأبذأ البذاءات بحق تركيا وأردوغان ..
وهنا فانني أطرح سؤالا مشروعا:
لماذا تفتش روسيا عن مصالحها ولاتفعل تركيا ذلك؟ أي ماالمانع من حدوث هذا الاتجاه لدى أردوغان فينقلب الرجل على المعارضة السورية؟ لاتقولوا لي ان أردوغان رجل لايبيع ولايغير كلمته وأنه قد أمسك “شنباته” عندما تعهد بدعم البلطجيين والمهربين السوريين وسماهم ثوارا..لاتثقوا به كثيرا فمن يطعن بشار الأسد وشعب بشار الأسد بهذه الطريقة الرخيصة سيطعن الثورجيين والاستانبوليين .. وبرهان وبسمة ..وشقفة وطيفور .. وحمد وعرعور ..واللاذقاني وجعارة وعبد النور ..وكل ثورجي وطرطور .. وسيكون موقف الثورجية مضحكا وهم عراة من غير الطربوش والشروال التركي ..
انها الكوميديا الالهية التي بدأها حمد وأردوغان والتي قد ينهيها أردوغان نفسه بنسختها العربية الأصلية للمعري أي “برسالة الغفران” .. وستنقلب عندها الكوميديا الالهية برأيي .. الى العناية الالهية ..وصدق من قال …سورية ..الله …حاميه
January 29th, 2012, 7:54 pm
Tara said:
More on Syrian Kurds views
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/29/world/meast/syria-unrest/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
(CNN) — At least 64 people were killed in Syria on Sunday, according to an opposition activist group, as the Arab League suspended a monitoring mission designed to protect Syrian civilians from government-sponsored violence.
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Meanwhile, Syrian Kurdish political groups met in Iraq to formulate a plan to protect their rights if al-Assad is ousted. All but a few Kurdish parties attended the meeting in Irbil in Iraq’s semi-autonomous Kurdish region.
In their final statement Sunday, the groups agreed to support decisions and recommendations made by the Kurdish National Council.
While the Syrian groups are willing to unite with the Arab opposition in Syria, they want more self-determination and autonomy in a post-Assad Syria. The Kurds also continue to reject taking up arms and say they are afraid of Islamic undertones in the opposition groups.
“We are calling for a decentralized government because Syria is a multi-ethnic and multi-religious country,” Abdul Hakim Bashar, chairman of the Kurdish National Council, told CNN. “We demand a secular state, so Islamist movements don’t try to interpret the system for their benefits by applying Islamic rules in a disfigured way.”
However, one of the main Syrian Kurdish parties, the Democratic Union Party, or PYD, said it was excluded from the meeting.
“We have been working to unite Kurdish people and converge between different views within the Kurdish movement in Western Kurdistan and Syria,” the party said in a statement. “This conference by the Kurdistan Democratic Party is a plan to divide rather than unite the Kurdish people.”
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“We alert the public that any recommendations and decisions issued by the so-called conference is not representative of the Kurdish people in Western Kurdistan,” the group said.
Kurds are Syria’s largest ethnic minority, comprising between 10% and 15% of Syria’s population.
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January 29th, 2012, 8:05 pm
Tara said:
Bronco,
You may have missed that rhythm.
January 29th, 2012, 8:20 pm
Hans said:
The Arabic spring left no one Arabic army standing, wonder if the Iraq invasion was also an american spring gift to the Arabs. The first decade of the 21th century resulted in more killing of Arabs then probably all other natural disasters hit the earth for the decade.
I am wondering how many people killed in drug war vs Arabic spring vs natural disasters, i think Israel is benefiting from Arabs death, USA benefiting from drug war death.
the GCC pigs are on a lose run to conquer and defeat the rest of the Arabs.
January 29th, 2012, 8:21 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Sandro,
Are you in Damascus right now? (feel free to ignore the question if you don’t feel safe)!
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January 29th, 2012, 8:31 pm
Mawal95 said:
This past Friday’s street protests were branded “the Friday of establishing self-defence” حق الدفاع عن النفس . The following videos were recorded on Friday (27 Jan 2012; or possibly later in one or two cases; the upload dates are 27, 28 and 29 jan 2012). In each case the videos show a lot of armed rebels intermixed with an unarmed street-protest crowd. The crowd chants “God protect the free army” (allah mhiye el-jaysh el-hur).
In Kefr Nabl in Idlib province: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D21SLTxDB4
In Idlib city: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEoL4WhKZyU ALSO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16am4SfLtPg
In Kefr Takharim in Idlib province: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csQALgjoF18
In a city in Daraa province: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCrrLkZ1So
In Homs city: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGQcehCHuTQ ALSO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySxBspsoMrc
In a neighbourhood of Al-Rastan in Homs province: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdEPOnRDRIA
All the above were uploaded by http://www.youtube.com/user/MrAA991/videos
Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem said on 24 jan 2012 that a “security solution” in Syria has become a “popular demand by the Syrian people.” For my own part, I demand that the security forces act vigorously and promptly to disarm and arrest and/or kill all of the protesters in the above videos who are illegally carrying AK-47s and RPG launchers.
January 29th, 2012, 8:35 pm
zoo said:
Arab League seeks Beijing, Moscow support on Syria
By Mona Salem | AFP – 7 hrs ago
http://news.yahoo.com/arab-league-seeks-beijing-moscow-support-syria-183452306.html
Arab League chief Nabil al-Arabi is fighting an uphill battle to court Russia and China to win their support at the United Nations for the latest Arab plan aimed at ending the bloodshed in Syria.
Russia has made it clear that regime change in Damascus constitutes a “red line,” but Arabi said on Sunday as he left for New York that his organisation was in talks with Moscow and Beijing.
He hoped the two veto-wielding countries would change their stand on a draft resolution under discussion at the UN Security Council, based on an Arab proposal for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to hand over power to his deputy.
The Arab League chief, accompanied by Qatar Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassem Al-Thani, is to present details of the plan to the council on Tuesday.
Qatar says the plan foresees the “peaceful departure” of the Syrian regime.
It also calls for an end to the violence and a power transfer, with Assad handing over responsibilities to his deputy, before the launch of negotiations between the government and the opposition.
The Syrian authorities have flatly rejected this formula.
And Moscow, which along with Beijing represents one of Damascus’s staunchest allies, remains hostile to the Arab proposition, saying it crosses its clearly drawn lines.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Sunday also slammed the Arab League’s decision to suspend its hard-won monitoring mission in Syria.
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January 29th, 2012, 8:38 pm
Mawal95 said:
John R. Bradley has been doing social and cultural research in the Middle East for well over a decade. In 2008 he published a book about Egyptian society in which he predicted Egypt would have an Islamic revolution. That prediction has still not come true because (a) those who agitated for the ouster of Mubarrak last year included substantial numbers of secularists as well as Islamists, and (b) the parliament now controlled by the Islamists currently still doesn’t have a lot of power, and (c) the army remains hugely popular with the masses of the Egyptian people and continues to control the executive government, and the army leadership is currently still not Islamic. John R. Bradley is still predicting an upcoming Islamization in Egypt akin to what happened in Iran and not akin to what happened in Turkey. He has a newly published book called AFTER THE ARAB SPRING. He says the analysts in the foreign policy departments of the Western governments are seeing the Middle East all wrong, a point on which I can fully agree with him.
An eleven-minute video interview with him dated 26 Jan 2012 including talk about Syria is at http://rt.com/news/arab-spring-islamist-revolution-723/ . Among other things he says that the most popular motive for the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt, and Syria was economic dissatisfaction. The motive of having fair elections and free expression was only a very secondary consideration for most of the ordinary people who joined the uprising. Neither the Islamists nor anybody else has a solution for the economic dissatisfaction. But if the ruling Establishment is removed from government, then it is the Islamists who get the bulk of the votes to replace them.
John R. Bradley on 1 Dec 2011: Greatly exaggerated reports of the Assad regime’s imminent demise have been a steady staple of the Western media for nine months and counting. The truth is that, in and of themselves, economic sanctions by the Arab League will make no difference to Assad’s chances of survival in the medium term. Such sanctions tend to hurt most, slowly and cruelly, a country’s middle class, as the examples of Iraq and Iran clearly illustrate. Foreigners imposing economic sanctions hope they’ll increase the divide between the regime and the people. Historically this doesn’t happen. When people feel pressured by the sanctions and they look at where the pressure is coming from, they find it’s from the foreigners not from the regime…. If a popular uprising against Assad had ever been on the cards, it would have already happened. In fact, all the evidence suggests that he still enjoys massive support among the mostly secular Syrian population, who rightly fear that the only alternative to their president is an extraordinarily vicious and prolonged civil war. http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/analysis/59334/syrian-revolt-faces-secular-opposition
John R. Bradley’s assessment and forecast is that Egypt is going to go much more Islamic, but Syria is not. The reason why Syria is not is that the secular Establishment is going to remain in power in Syria. If that’s right, it means Joshua Landis’s sectarian assessment and forecast for Syria is wrong. If, however, the Syrian Establishment were somehow overthrown then, no matter how it was overthrown, the Islamists would end up getting the bulk of the votes and would take over the Syrian State. Secular-minded Syrians who wish for the overthrow of the regime would end up very dissappointed about what would take its place, just as the secular anti-Mubarraks in Egypt are going to be very dissappointed. The regime’s comprehensive reform program, together with aggressive fightback against armed rebellion, is the only sensible pathway out of the current crisis.
January 29th, 2012, 8:53 pm
Mawal95 said:
Repeating from previous post:
Another previous post:
January 29th, 2012, 9:22 pm
Norman said:
The Syrian army cleared Damascus suburb ,
ناشطون: الجيش السوري يستعيد السيطرة على ضواح حول دمشق
آخر تحديث: الاثنين، 30 يناير/ كانون الثاني، 2012، 01:42 GMT
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– http://wsodprogrf.bbc.co.uk/arabic/dps/2012/01/syria_arableague_16x9_hi.mp4
– http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
– http://www.bbc.co.uk/arabic/multimedia/2012/01/120129_syria_arableague.shtml?bw=bb&mp=wm&bbcws=1&news=1
أفاد ناشطون ان قوات الجيش السوري قد سيطرت على ضواح في شرق دمشق كانت قد سقطت في يد قوات جيش سوريا الحر المنشق بعد يومين من القصف والقتال.
وذكرت وكالة رويترز للانباء نقلا عن احد هؤلاء الناشطين من منطقة الغوطة الشرقية عند اطراف دمشق قوله “جيش سوريا الحر قام بانسحاب تكتيكي. قوات النظام اعادت احتلال الضواحي وبدأت في عمليات اعتقال من منزل لمنزل.”
وكان الجيش السوري النظامي قد بدا حملة عسكرية السبت الماضي في الضواحي الشرقية للعاصمة تهدف الى استعادة السيطرة عليها من عناصر جيش سوريا الحر.
ويقول الناشطون إن أكثر من ألفي جندي و 50 دبابة استخدمت لتعزيز العملية العسكرية الأحد.
ووصف أحد الناشطين عمليات القتال بـ”إنها حرب مدن، هناك جثث ملقاة في الشوارع”.
وقال ماهر النعيمي المتحدث باسم جيش سوريا الحر ان الدبابات دخلت ضواحي الغوطة الشرقية ولكنه امتنع عن الخوض في تفصيلات العمليات.
وقال النعيمي إن “الدبابات دخلت ولكنها لا تعرف اين جيش سوريا الحر. مازلنا نعمل قرب دمشق”.
مواجهات عنيفة
وكانت اعمال العنف والمواجهات التي شهدتها سوريا الاحد قد اسفرت عن مقتل نحو 66 شخصا على الأقل بينهم 26 مدنيا.
وكان بين القتلى 26 جنديا و 5 رجال أمن و9 من العسكريين المنشقين عن الجيش.
وسقط ستة من القتلى في دمشق و 12 في الضواحي وثمانية في حمص وأربعة في حماة وأربعة في إدلب.
وقال الناشطون إن قوات الجيش المدعومة بالدبابات قصفت المناطق التي يسيطر عليها الثوار شرقي وشمالي المدينة.
وأفادت التقارير بمقتل 26 شخصا على الأقل نتيجة الاشتباكات التي وقعت في ضواحي العاصمة التي وصفها ناشطون بأنها الأعنف منذ اندلاع الانتفاضة.
وقالت مصادر إن 14 مدنيا وخمسة من الثوار قتلوا في أنحاء مختلفة من العاصمة دمشق الأحد، بينما افادت تقارير بمقتل 12 شخصا يوم السبت.
وقال المرصد السوري لحقوق الانسان ان ما لا يقل عن 16 جنديا سوريا قتلوا الاحد في هجومين منفصلين، احدهما شمال غربي البلاد، والثاني قرب العاصمة.
واضاف المرصد، ومقره لندن، ان عشرة جنود قتلوا عندما تعرضت قافلتهم الى هجوم في كنسفرا في منطقة جبل الزاوية.
كما نقلت وكالة الانباء السورية الحكومية عن مصدر رسمي قوله ان “عصابات ارهابية مسلحة” قتلت ستة جنود آخرين، منهم ضابطان، عندما تعرضت حافلة عسكرية لنقل الجنود الى هجوم قرب ضاحية سحنايا قرب دمشق.
دمشق تدين
ويأتي هذا التصعيد بعد إعلان الجامعة العربية تعليق عمل بعثة المراقبين العرب في سوريا، وقد أدانت دمشق هذا القرار.
وقالت الحكومة السورية ان الهدف من هذا القرار زيادة الضغط الدولي والتمهيد للتدخل الاجنبي في سوريا.
وكان الامين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي قد ذكر في وقت سابق ان القرار اتخذ بعد التدهور الحاد في الظروف الامنية في انحاء من سورية، وتزايد وتيرة العنف.
كما يأتي القرار في وقت تسعى فيه الجامعة الى الحصول على دعم الامم المتحدة لخطة سلام تتضمن تنحي الرئيس بشار الاسد عن الحكم.
وأوضح العربي في بيان أن قرار التعليق يأتي “بالنظر الى تدهور الاوضاع بشكل خطير في سوريا والى استمرار استخدم العنف.”
وبالرغم من تعليق عمل المراقبين إلا أنهم سيبقون داخل سورية في الوقت الحالي.
وبدأت مهمة المراقبة في ديسمبر/ كانون الأول بهدف التحقق من التزام دمشق بخطة للجامعة العربية لإنهاء إراقة الدماء في الانتفاضة المستمرة منذ حوالي عشرة أشهر. لكن عدة دول سحبت مراقبيها منذ ذلك الحين.
وتنتقد المعارضة السورية المهمة وترى انها غير فاعلة، فيما تشير تقديرات إلى أن حوالي 200 شخص قتلوا في سورية منذ قرار تمديد عمل البعثة، والذي تم اتخاذه الثلاثاء الماضي.
وكان وزير الداخلية السوري محمد الشعار اكد السبت ان قوات الأمن عازمة على “تطهير البلاد من المارقين والخارجين على القانون”، وإستعادة الأمن، حسب وصفه.
مجلس الأمن
دوليا تتجه الأنظار إلى مجلس الأمن التابع للأمم المتحدة الذي قد يصوت على مسودة قرار صاغته الجامعة العربية وبريطانيا وفرنسا وألمانيا.
ويدعم القرار في مسودته دعوة الجامعة العربية للرئيس السوري بشار الأسد لنقل سلطاته إلى نائبه كي يشكل حكومة وحدة وطنية مع المعارضة خلال شهرين، ويدعو لمزيد من الإجراءات العقابية إذا لم تستجب الحكومة السورية.
لكن روسيا، العضو الدائم بمجلس الأمن، قالت إنها لن تدعمه.
ومن المتوقع أن يتوجه الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي بخطاب إلى مجلس الأمن يوم الثلاثاء.
ويجري العربي بالفعل محادثات مباشرة مع مسؤولين روس لمحاولة إقناعهم بالتخلي عن معارضتهم للقرار.
January 29th, 2012, 9:28 pm
anton said:
Drear Mr. Haytham Khoury
Nothing wrong to be in the opposition, but you need to have couple of characteristics to be taken seriously
1- honesty
2- dignity
3- patriotism
What I can see from you comments , I believe , that almost you are missing all of them, therefore , in any democratic process you ended by having only one votes , yours !
January 29th, 2012, 9:28 pm
RatAnn Yaahoo said:
there appears to be a hell of alot of weapons in the hnads of the rebels in Syria all of a sudden!!!
where did the arms come from?
January 29th, 2012, 9:45 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
norman
The FSA as Maher Nu3aimi said he attacks and leaves, he will not stay there, but the army can stay only short time ,then FSA attacks again.
There are many rumors in Syria, and the regime is loosing trust in their soldiers, this psychological problem,(no longer trust), will confuse the regime
January 29th, 2012, 9:58 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: HANS IN YOUR PANTS
RE: “…the GCC pigs are on the loose…”
Yes they are. Best you stand to the side, lest you get trampled…
January 29th, 2012, 10:06 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
ا كنت سوري فاسمع ما يقال عنك ! واذا لم تكن فاسمع ما يقال عنا ؛ قال هتلر: أعطني جندي سوري وسلاح ألماني وسوف …أجعل اوروبا تزحف على أناملها … قال الملك عبد العزيز:سوريا لا تحتاج الى رجال فرجالها أهل ثبات، قال فيديل :الفرنسيون حمقى لانهم احتلوا دولة شعبها لا يمل ولا يضعف.. قال صدام حسين : في كل نقطة دم سورية يولد مجاهد.. قال كيسنجر : لا يوجد …. و لم ….. أجد اعند من رجال سوريا. قال الحجاج يوم…ا … عن أهل الشام لايغرنك صبرهم ولا تستضعف قوتهم فهم إن قاموا لنصرة رجل ما تركوه إلا والتاج على رأسه وإن قاموا على رجل ما تركوه إلا وقد قطعوا رأسه فانتصروا بهم فهم خير أجناد الارض وأتقى فيهم ثلاث 1- نسائهم فلا تقربهم بسوء وإلا أكلوك كما تأكل الأسود فرائسها 2 – أرضهم وإلا حاربتك صخور جبالهم 3- دينهم وإلا أحرقوا عليك دنياك
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January 29th, 2012, 10:19 pm
Ghufran said:
لا يمكن لأحد بعد اليوم ان يطالب بحكم سوريا مطلقاً، ولا يمكن لأي عاقل ان يقبل بدمار الدولة السورية من اجل حكم قادم برائحة البترول الصحراوي والإستعمار الجديد.
إنه تحدٍ جديد على ابناء سوريا الوطن ان يأخذوا به حفاظاً على بناء الدولة منعاً للفوضى والحرب الأهلية. إنه تحدٍ جديد للحياة في الحفاظ على الحياة لكل ابناء سوريا.
فالسوريون موزاييك بشري رائع، لا يمكن حكمه من قبل جهة او طائفة او عرق واحد، هذا الخليط لا يمكن ان يحل مسائله إلا عبر الحوار، وماغير ذلك مهما ادّعى اصحاب العقول والإيديولوجيات، او المرتزقة الجديد، وبائعو الوطن، فإنه قارب تائه ينشر ظلامه على اشرعة الموت والخراب في كل انحاء الوطن.
لا تهدموا سوريا، لا تهدموا وتدّمروا الوطن السوري الجميل.
لا تنساقوا بإلاعيب الأخر، وتذكّروا العراق، وديموقراطية العراق، والعراق الجديد الذي عث به كل مخرب خلال السنوات الأخيرة، انظروا البداية في ليبيا، وما سيليها. وهاتان الدولتان تملكان النفط للبناء إذا سمح لهم بالبناء.
اما نحن السوريون، فماذا نملك لنعيد البناء؟ ما لدينا من نفط وثروات لكي نبني ما نرغب بتدميره؟
اصحوا، من سباتكم ومن جحيم غرائزكم، وحافظوا على بنيانكم، حافظوا على تاريخكم الإجتماعي والإنساني والحضاري والمدني، قبل ان تهب النار وتلتهم الجميع.
تنازلوا في اية جهة كنتم، تنازلوا من اجل حوار لا يستخدم به السلاح، بل العقل وخلاصة التجربة التاريخية لسوريا.
لم يعد قبل الظلام القادم برائحة الموت، إلا امل ضئيل في حوار على طاولة واحدة للإتفاق على ما سيتبقى من حلم جميل اسمه سوريا.
د. فاضل فضة
January 29th, 2012, 10:23 pm
FreeSoldier said:
Rumors all abound that Bahsar has bailed out.
Anyone in Syria hearing anything?
Looks like spring is in the air….
January 29th, 2012, 10:26 pm
Jerusalem said:
JUSTICE only in the US. Frank Wuterich US sollider will not go to jail over the killing of 24 Iraqi civilians in the city of Haditha.
Thank you Mr. Bush for liberating Iraqis in the name of freedom and weapon of mass destruction. Civilians in Syria await NATO with passion. They are about 30 millions, you can bleed as you please in the name of freedom like in Libya.
January 29th, 2012, 10:37 pm
Ghufran said:
After a long day of news,rumors and lies,it is clear that not much has changed on the ground except that there is a retreat of anti regime armed forces, the FSA claims it is tactical and the regime claims it is not. The high number of casualties in Greater Damascus indicate that there was bloody confrontations and not just “karr wa Farr”. A lot of people I heard,and confirmed some,were not able to call Damascus from other cities in Syria. The army leadership holds the key for any resolution up or down,and it seems like Syrian soldiers and officers are ready for this madness to end in one way or the other.
January 29th, 2012, 10:38 pm
jad said:
An eye opener and worrying analyses of how the west works when they want to intervene military in any country, the same steps done on Iraq are now done on Syria:
كيف تعرف ان العدوان وشيك على بلادك؟
أعزائي الشعوب المستضعفة في كون تحكمه قوة واحدة غاشمة. إذا كنتم تنتمون الى دول:
1- لا تقع على طرق رئيسية لإمدادات الطاقة او اي موقع ستراتيجي،
2- اذا كنتم لا تملكون مصدرا للطاقة
3- اذا لم يكن لديكم جيش قوي
4- اذا لم يكن في وجودكم خطر على الكيان الصهيوني
5- اذا لم تكونوا متحالفين مع دول مارقة في التعريف الأمريكي للمروق.
6- اذا كنتم تضعون ثقتكم في الدولار وليس في أية عملة اخرى
7- اذا كنتم تؤمنون بالليبرالية دينا وبالسوق الحرة مذهبا
فأنتم في منجى – الى حين – من غضب الولايات المتحدة ، والحرب ليست وشيكة عليكم. ولكن اذا كان من سوء حظكم ان لديكم متناقضات لأي من النقاط السبع المنجية أعلاه، فالله يكون في عونكم ، انتم في دائرة الخطر، ولن ينفعكم وقوفكم في حفر الباطن تحت القيادة الأمريكية ، ولاتسليم برامجكم التسليحية للولايات المتحدة، ولا حتى كشف عوراتكم. لقد اصبحت لنا خبرة في كيفية تحرك الديناصور الأمريكي ، والأحمق هو من لايعتبر بالدروس التي مرت عليه. وبعد استعراض الاعلام العراقي قبل الإحتلال
الأمريكي في اربعة أجزاء هنا
http://ishtar-enana.blogspot.com/2012/01/1_22.html
وهنا
http://ishtar-enana.blogspot.com/2012/01/2.html
وهنا
http://ishtar-enana.blogspot.com/2012/01/3_25.html
وهنا
http://ishtar-enana.blogspot.com/2012/01/4_28.html
، اود ان انقل اليكم استنتاجاتي عن المؤشرات التي ستعرفون منها إن الحرب وشيكة على بلادكم اذا كانت هدفا.
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كيف تعرف ان العدوان وشيك؟
1- نظام عقوبات
2- اقامة قواعد عسكرية في الدول المحيطة
3- احتضان معارضة تعيش في الخارج وتقبض رواتب من السي آي أي
4- توحيد قوى المعارضة في الرقم (3) (توحيدا تكتيكيا لأن مثل هذه المعارضة الانتهازية والمتمولة لا يمكن ان تتفق فيما بينها، لأنها اصلا لا تبحث عن مصلحة شعبها، ولكن امريكا تستغل جشعها وتطلعها للحكم في توحيدها ضد هدف واحد هو الاطاحة بالنظام القائم، وبعد انتهاء المهمة تستغل امريكا تناقضات تلك المعارضة للايقاع بها وتفكيكها. انظروا ما يحصل في العراق)
5- حملة تشويه وشيطنة وأكاذيب للهدف المراد الاطاحة به
6- شخصنة النزاع على شخص الحاكم وليس على النظام كله. وكأن المشكلة كلها في شخص واحد. حتى يقول الشعب: لماذا لا يرحل وينقذنا؟
7- تعيين دولة مجاورة (او اكثر من واحدة) تكون رأس الحربة للتغلغل اذا لم تكن الدولة تقع على بحر او محيط حينها يكون النفاذ اليها من هناك
8- انزال قوات خاصة عربية (في الدول العربية لتقارب السحنات) واذا لم يكن فأجنبية تتخفى بلباس المحليين
9- تدريب في دولة مجاورة او بعيدة، لقوات معارضة على عمليات تخريب او قتال.
10- استخدام المنظمات الاقليمية (الجامعة العربية) والمنظمات الدولية (أذرع الامم المتحدة) كأدوات تجسس او تحسس او خداع بفكرة ان امريكا تسمح بالحل الدبلوماسي وان الحرب آخر خيار لها.
11- موضة فرق تفتيش او تحقيق الخ من المنظمات المذكورة في رقم (10) وتستخدم هذه عادة للتجسس او لاستفزاز الحكومة بطلبات تعجيزية او لتقديم تقارير كاذبة او لاطالة المهلة حتى تستعد امريكا للمعركة.
12- تحركات الوزراء الأمريكان ومساعديهم على الدول المحيطة بالدولة الهدف او في الاقليم او في العالم، وتحرك على الحلفاء المترددين. حين تزداد تلك الجولات تعرفون ان الحرب وشيكة
13- تكثيف الحرب النفسية والمعلوماتية
14- استخدام دولة حليفة وصحافتها لاذاعة اخبار كاذبة (علاقات بارهابيين، اكتشاف اسلحة نووية الخ ) لئلا تتهم امريكا بالكذب للمصلحة، ولزيادة الاقناع، في حالة العراق كانت بريطانيا وألمانيا، مؤخرا صارت قناة الجزيرة هي الأداة المفضلة.
15- حين يتحول الاعلام الأمريكي والغربي والعميل العربي الى صوت واحد ولايسمح بالاعلام المضاد او الآراء الاخرى المغايرة.
16- المناورات (المقررة سابقا كما يقال) التي تجري في البلدان المحيطة بالهدف
17- اكبر مؤشر على اقتراب الحرب طبعا هو نشر الجنود في الدول المحيطة (منذ مايسمى الربيع العربي، صار للتدخلات العسكرية اسلوب يختلف: المخابرات و القوات الخاصة والضربات الجوية بطائرات بدون طيار.) ولكن تبقى هناك قوات اسناد في محيط الدولة الهدف.
18- اقامة محطات طائرات تجسس بدون طيار قريبة من حدود الهدف
19- حين تبدأ الدول العميلة المحيطة بالهدف في اجراءات عصبية للضغط على معارضيها او من يحتمل ان يعارض ضرب الدولة الهدف، واعتقالهم او كتم اصواتهم.
20- حين تحرك امريكا اساطيلها في المحيطات القريبة ثم تعلن ان هذه تنقلات روتينية مجدولة سابقا.
21- عادة توقت الحرب الأمريكية مع بداية حكم الرئيس او قبل اشهر قليلة من انتخابات الدورة الثانية. انتبهوا لهذه التوقيتات.
22- موضة (الربيع العربي) أن تقوم ثورة مصنوعة من حشود جماهيرية، وهناك مسلحون من القوات الخاصة الأجنبية المتسللة تطلق النار عليها ويتهم جيشك وقواتك، وتنطلق صرخات: ابادة. يحدث هذا عادة حين يكون جيشك قويا والمطلوب تفكيكه وحله بدءا من احداث انشقاق بينه والشعب. (هذا تنويع بدلا من ارسال قوات غازية برية كما حدث في افغانستان والعراق. يمكن تسمية هذا الاسلوب: الاحتلال الأمريكي الناعم بواسطة منظمات المجتمع المدني الممولة من وزارة الخارجية الأمريكية)
الناشر: عشتار العراقية
http://ishtar-enana.blogspot.com/2012/01/blog-post_28.html
January 29th, 2012, 11:34 pm
bronco said:
#438 Ghofran
The withdrawal of the GCC observers, the dismissal of the observers report and the rush to move to the UN were big mistakes the AL did under the pressure of Qatar eager to flex its power before loosing the chairmanship of the AL.
The Russian expressed their surprise in the sudden shift from the AL protocol to the UNSC and made it clear that they won’t bow so easily to Qatar and the Western countries using the AL as a Trojan horse to a UNSC resolution calling for a regime change when at least 50% of the Syrians as well as the army is behind their president and when violent terrorist acts are now claimed by outlawed army mutineers.
The other consequence of the withdrawal of the observers is that it gave a greenlight to the Syrian army to perform the massive “cleanup” Bashar has promised and prevent the FSA mutineers to obtain new material with the money of Qatar and the GCC.
The AL and Qatar have come out irremediably discredited by that bad move. The UNSC will probably postpone taking the vote on that controversial resolution.
In the meantime violence will continue, now legally justified as it is now against outlawed armed mutineers.
The Arab FM will only meet in a week, hoping that they would see something changed on the ground that could give them hopes of a way out.
I guess in a week we would know if something have really changed.
January 29th, 2012, 11:59 pm
ss said:
majedkhaldounsaid:
“norman
The FSA as Maher Nu3aimi said he attacks and leaves, he will not stay there, but the army can stay only short time ,then FSA attacks again.
There are many rumors in Syria, and the regime is loosing trust in their soldiers, this psychological problem,(no longer trust), will confuse the regime”
(edited for personal attack)
I am concerned about the safety of people in the US. FSA is a total delusions, its a made up army of gangs and construction workers, its not really an army. The president and his army are fine. They have not flexed a muscle yet.
January 30th, 2012, 12:01 am
majedkhaldoun said:
I expect England to introduce a resolution about Syria
Immidiate halt to violence by the regime
immidiate release of all prisoners
followed by starting negotiation between the regime and opposition.
January 30th, 2012, 12:03 am
jad said:
Bronco,
I think that this step by Qatar and KSA is already planned and I won’t be surprised if the Russian accept the resolution or at least let it pass, that’s all they west needs to start occupying Syria a la Libye.
Did you see this add! WOW!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=273860402681432&set=a.203436473057159.49996.201934369874036&type=1
January 30th, 2012, 12:10 am
ann said:
Looks like the israel lobby syop propaganda machine is posting in overdrive today! 8)
Relax people don’t let the sucm get under your skin
It’s just a hard push to influence the deliberations outcome of the UN security council on Syria
January 30th, 2012, 12:14 am
ann said:
*** LOOK WHO’S SCARED OF SYRIA’S MILITARY CAPABILITY ***
Regional turmoil challenging Israel’s aerial superiority: air force chief – 2012-01-30
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/30/c_122626801.htm
JERUSALEM, Jan. 29 (Xinhua) — Israel Air Force (IAF) Chief Maj. -Gen. Ido Nehoshtan warned on Sunday about the dangers of an increasingly weaponized Middle East, which he believed could pose a threat to Israel’s aerial superiority.
Nehoshtan’s comments came during the Annual International Space Conference in Herzliya, where he said he believed Syria posed the biggest danger to Israel’s aerial predominance, despite the country’s internal turmoil.
“Syria is a country with a large army and the internal process that it is undergoing increases the danger of weapons ending up in the hands of terrorists,” he said, quoted by the Ha’aretz daily.
Though Syria is being rocked by anti-government protests, Nehoshtan believes it is still acquiring advanced weaponry like anti-missile aircrafts and planes.
“Maintaining aerial superiority has always been an issue of concern to the IAF chief, but more so recently,” he said.
He also added that Hamas and other militant organizations are taking advantage of the instability in Egypt to operate in the Sinai Peninsula.
Since the turmoil in the Middle East began last year, Israeli army figures have warned about the dangers of hostile regimes in the region amassing advanced weaponry.
Earlier this month, Israel’s military intelligence director, Maj.-Gen. Aviv Kochavi, also warned about Syria beefing up its arsenal, with the help of Iran.
“They are providing (Syria) with knowledge, weapons and other means and recently with active involvement,” Kochavi said, “and we must prepare for the developing threats.”
January 30th, 2012, 12:21 am
Ghufran said:
The sharp u-turn of the AL was wrong but it was planned,this is why the whole budget of the first AL mission was less than what Moza spent on fixing her “cultural behind” in London. The brutality of the regime is now almost matched by the brutality of armed thugs and in both cases the loser is Syria,this is not to equate the oppressive regime with an oppressed population but it is a cry to go back to basic senses and realize that national peace can not be achieved by a national civil war. When was the last time you heard of an army that responds to bullets with smiles?
I fully support a regime change through non violent means which I still think is doable if the guns stop and allow patriotic Syrians to reach a political settlement before this wish becomes a fantasy.
January 30th, 2012, 12:27 am
jad said:
Al Abbasyeen Plaza
العباسيين
http://youtu.be/GV32yjH8ldE
January 30th, 2012, 12:51 am
ann said:
Rep. Diane Black, other congresswomen get undignified Saudi welcome – Jan. 29, 2012
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120129/NEWS02/301290044/Rep-Diane-Black-other-congresswomen-get-undignified-Saudi-welcome
WASHINGTON — Rep. Diane Black got an up-close look at gender segregation in Saudi Arabia during a trip to the Middle East earlier this month.
When the lawmakers asked to use the bathroom after a lengthy visit to the Saudi Defense Ministry, they ran into an unexpected challenge: no women’s restroom.
“It was kind of like, hmm, OK, I’ve heard about oppression, but really there are just some things that are natural and biological,” Black, a former nurse, said with a laugh in an interview last week.
The World Economic Forum 2011 Global Gender Gap Report ranked Saudi Arabia 131th out of 135 countries for gender parity, ahead of only Mali, Pakistan, Chad and Yemen. It was one of four countries, including Belize, Brunei Darussalam and Qatar, to score a zero for political empowerment of women.
“This just goes to show the extent to which the Saudi government doesn’t have women in mind,” she wrote in an email. “Not only are women invisible in their architectural plans, but also as full members in society.”
January 30th, 2012, 12:55 am
ann said:
447. jad said:
Al Abbasyeen Plaza
العباسيين
http://youtu.be/GV32yjH8ldE
All is well once you expose their propaganda machine
Thank you JAD
January 30th, 2012, 1:00 am
ann said:
Pro-government hactivists deface Al Jazeera coverage of Syrian violence – 8 hours ago
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/pro-government-hactivists-deface-al-jazeera-coverage-of-syrian-violence.ars
The Al Jazeera English website was attacked and defaced on January 29 by hackers supporting Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. Targeting the news organization’s “Syria Live Blog,” which has been providing ongoing coverage of the Arab League’s observer mission to Syria and developments in the ongoing unrest in the country, the hacker group calling itself the Syrian Electronic Army posted pro-Assad and pro-Syrian government images to the site.
The relationship of the Syrian Electronic Army to the government itself is unclear. However, the group’s domain was registered in May of 2011 in Tartous, Syria, and its site is hosted on servers maintained by the Syrian Computer Society—a group Assad was the head of before assuming Syria’s presidency, and introduced the Internet to Syria in 2001.
The attack started at about 2:30 PM Central Time, just after Al Jazeera posted a report on casualties reported by the Local Coordinating Committees, an activist network in Syria. On their own site, the Syrian Electronic Army announced the “code re-penetration” of the site by a “professional Syrian battalion” of hackers, denouncing Al Jazeera for broadcasting “false and fabricated news” to “ignite sedition” among the people of Syria and achieve the goals of “Washington and Tel Aviv.”
This is the second attack against Al Jazeera this month claimed by the pro-Assad hacktivist group. In September, the group attacked Harvard University’s site, and keeps a graphic from Harvard’s site on its homepage as a trophy of that exploit. In August, the group attacked the Tumblr site set up by YourAnonNews in response to Anonymous’ attacks on Syrian government sites.
January 30th, 2012, 1:16 am
ann said:
Syrian army retakes control of Damascus suburbs – Jan 30, 2012
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012/01/30/64906563.html
The Syrian troops are retaking control of Damascus suburbs, an army source said on Monday, citing dozens of tanks and armored vehicles that have entered suburban areas which were earlier held by rebels.
January 30th, 2012, 1:30 am
jad said:
My pleasure Ann!
January 30th, 2012, 1:34 am
jad said:
أطفال سورية … إلى أين ؟!
في كل يوم نسمع نبأ استشهاد أطفال في سورية ونرى بأعيننا صور جثامينهم , باتت صورة الأطفال وتواجدهم مألوفا أكثر مما يجب في الساحة السورية اليوم ,
الأمر منذ البداية تجاوز حدود الوجع والألم و أصبح انتهاكا للطفولة واستغلالا لها من كل جانب .
أشاهد نشرة الأخبار على أحد القنوات المعارضة فأرى بروشور النشرة , طفلة بعينين واسعتين لم تتجاوز العاشرة من عمرها كتب على جبينها كلمة ” الحرية ” , و حين أتابع الأخبار في القنوات المؤيدة أرى طفلا يحمله والده على كتفه ليهتف باسم الرئيس رغم عدم اتقانه للكلام بشكل جيد بعد !
أرى صور الأطفال في المواقع الالكترونية وفي القنوات التلفزيونية في المسيرات والمظاهرات , أراهم ببراءة عيونهم , أراهم , أحياء أو أموات, بطفولتهم أيقونات يستغلها الآخرون بقصد أو بدون قصد .
منذ البداية قلت أن الأطفال خط أحمر لا يجب إقحامه في السياسة أيّا كان توجهها .
لم الأطفال خط أحمر ؟
– لأنهم لازالوا في مرحلة الطفولة , في المرحلة التي يحتاجون فيها الى الكبار ليرعوهم ويعتنوا بهم وبالتالي ليبعدوهم عن ساحات الخطر .
بالتأكيد , المجرم هو من يطلق رصاصه نحو الطفل . المجرم خارج عن امكانية تحكمنا بأفعاله , وأحيانا مهما فعلنا لا نستطيع ردعه . ولكن من مسؤوليتنا أن نحاول بإبعاد الأطفال عن ساحات الخطر .
– ومن جهة أخرى فبالإضافة لأن إبعاد الأطفال ضرورة لحماية حياتهم , فهو ضرورة أخلاقية أيضا تجاههم وتجاه أفكارهم التي لم تتبلور بعد , فبأي حق أطلب من طفل لم يتقن الكلام جيدا بعد أن يهتف بشعار ما ؟
كم منا في المرحلة الابتدائية خرج في مسيرات وهتف بهتافات لا يفهم معناها ولا يعي إلا أنه كان يقوم بذلك خدمة للوطن ؟
هل نريد لأطفالنا أن يعانوا مما عانيناه , أو أن يسيروا في توجهاتهم ؟
و للتوضيح ما أقصده بالأطفال كل من هم دون عمر الثامنة عشر , وأما ما أقصده بإبعاد الأطفال عن ساحات الصراع
فهو بإبعادهم جسديا وعدم تسيسهم فكريا ,كما يحصل في المدارس اليوم ,
وأيضا بعدم انتهاك حقوق طفولتهم بسبب الصراعات التي تحدث .
فالأطفال من حقهم أن نحتضن مخاوفهم لا أن نعمقها , من حقهم أن يلعبوا بألعابهم ويدرسوا بكتبهم , أن يفرحوا بالأعياد
من حقهم ألا يشاركوا في أي إضراب , أو في أي مسيرة أو مظاهرة أو إعلان سياسي .
إذا …
هذا هو المبدأ , ولكن , كم هي المسافة بين المبدأ والتطبيق ؟ وكم نقدر أن نتحكم بتلك المسافة ؟
الكلام بالمبدأ , والمبدأ بحد ذاته يصبح تنظيرا إن لم يصل لحدود التطبيق ,وليس التطبيق سهلا دائما حتى لو وافقنا جميعا على المبدأ. ولكن هذا لا يمنع أن بإمكاننا تقصير المسافة باستمرار وبإمكاننا فعل ذلك الآن فالآن وقته رغم آلاف الهموم الأخرى . بإمكاننا التطبيق ولو بحيز صغير كي لا يبقى المبدأ تنظيرا ,
على عاتق من تقع المسؤولية . ؟
المسؤولية تقع على عاتق أطراف الصراع , على عاتق المجرم الذي يوجهه فوهة سلاحه تجاه طفل
على عاتق الدولة و القوانين حين لا تحمي الأطفال ,
على عاتق الأهالي ,ولنذكر هنا أن الأطفال ليسوا آلات جامدة لا تشعر أو لا تفكر , هم يتأثرون بما يدور حولهم , بما يشاهدونه , بما يسمعونه من أهلهم من معلمهم , و للأطفال أعمار مختلفة فهم ليسوا بعمر واحد يستطيع الأهل السيطرة عليه دائما ومنعه من الخروج أو من التدخل .
تقصر المسافة هنا مثلا حين يسيطر الأهل على الأطفال الصغار ولا يخرجوهم معهم للساحات حتى ولو لم يستطيعوا السيطرة على الأطفال الأكبر عمرا
والأهالي أيضا ليسوا بقالب تفكيري واحد , البعض يفخر بابنه الذي يخرج بمظاهرة أو بمسيرة ويرى كم ابنه بطل يحب الوطن.
وأيضا تقع المسؤولية على عاتق وسائل الاعلام التي تستخدم صور الأطفال , وتحمسهم وتشيد ببطولتهم , والتي تستغل قصة استشهاد طفل ما لتدافع عن قضيتها وتخترق خصوصيته , وتلك التي تعرض صور الجثث و الأشلاء .
وعلى عاتق كل واحد منا من منبره الخاص , حين لا يدين كل مجرم يقتل طفلا و حين لا يدافع عن الطفولة أمام كل أب وأم ووسيلة إعلام .
بالنهاية ..
أنا , نعم أريد حريتي ولكن ليس بدماء الأطفال وليس بانتهاك طفولتهم وحقهم باللعب أو بالتعلم أو بالابتسام أو بالحياة !
ليسوا هم من يجب أن يصنعوا لي حريتي , بل أنا من يجب أن أفعل .
http://dmdoom.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A5%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%86-%D8%9F/
January 30th, 2012, 1:42 am
ann said:
Twitter is platform for lies: Saudi Mufti – Sunday, January 29, 2012
http://www.emirates247.com/news/region/twitter-is-platform-for-lies-saudi-mufti-2012-01-29-1.439921
Sheikh Abdul Aziz urged Saudi Arabia’s feared religious police– the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice– to crackdown on users of Twitter website, adding that there are several other “good and useful” websites which can be seen by Muslims.
Twitter has been at the centre on controversy after it announced last week that it would begin restricting Tweets in certain countries, marking a policy shift for the social media platform that helped propel the popular uprisings recently sweeping across the Middle East.
Twitter’s decision to begin censoring content represents a significant departure from its policy just one year ago, when anti-government protesters in Tunisia, Egypt and other Arab countries coordinated mass demonstrations through on the social network and, in the process, thrust Twitter’s disruptive potential into the global spotlight.
January 30th, 2012, 1:50 am
Juergen said:
Interview with Hamid Dabashi, Professor for IRANIAN STUDIES AND COMPARATIVE LITERATURE, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7853
January 30th, 2012, 2:18 am
Juergen said:
Thank you Agatha to share the swiss tv interview with Rafik Schami.
Unfortunatly most Syrians will have to wait until the end of censorship in Syria to read from his books. In his interview he said some remarkable things:
Asked why he has gone into exile leaving his hometown, homecountry aside he said: ” In Syria i could not have written what i wrote, i liberated my tongue in exile. I was writing an children story back in Damascus, and the censorer declined 1/3 of my book. He thought when i wrote about an donkey i actually meant the President. Our Presidents always think when we talk about donkeys and dogs we talk about them.”
“Assad is lying not because he has the lust in lying, he must lie. If he would really shut down the 15 secret service agencies he is a dead man, if he would pull out the snipers we would see that Homs is within 2 hours an liberated city. Those dictators are prisoners of their own system, sooner or later they live in their own place, on their own planet, and they would still think that the people love them.”
“Assad and his family came from an village.They act like they have always lived in Damascus. They have forgotten that, the revolution did not start in the cities where the people are forced to bribe and get bribed, where the security apparatus has a tight control. It started in the rual areas because those people living there got neglected and were left alone with their problems. Now we see that the intellectuals, the writers, actors are trying to understand this we can say analphabetic revolution.”
“We arabs have brought the world prophets, but we can not fix a gutter. We can not unite and get rid of one dictator.”
January 30th, 2012, 3:31 am
Juergen said:
Baba Amr Homs
field hospital
January 30th, 2012, 3:36 am
Dale Andersen said:
Rumors abound that Bashar has bailed out.
Looks like spring is in the air….
January 30th, 2012, 4:26 am
Ghufran said:
ونقلت صحيفة (الحياة) اللندنية في عددها الصادر اليوم الاثنين عن الدابي قوله “جئنا لنراقب الأعمال التي يقوم بها الجانبان الحكومة والمعارضة, ولكن للأسف الشديد، وجدنا عدم رضا من المعارضة، هي لا تريدنا ان نعمل، كي يذهبوا بالملف الى مجلس الأمن وينهار النظام”
)يريد البعض راس الناطور و ليس العنب)
January 30th, 2012, 6:44 am
Ghufran said:
جاء في بيان للرابطة السورية للدفاع عن حقوق الإنسان صدر أمس الأحد أن كتيبة من عناصر المخابرات الجوية نفذت حكم الإعدام رمياً بالرصاص بحق المنشق عن النظام السوري المقدم حسين هرموش.
January 30th, 2012, 6:52 am
majedkhaldoun said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16768944
January 30th, 2012, 6:56 am
Ghufran said:
وأوضح شهود عيان لـ”العربية.نت”، أن أصوات إطلاق نار كثيفة سمعت في شارع بغداد وساحة التحرير وسط العاصمة خلال يوم أمس، فيما أكد عنصر من الجيش الحر أن الاشتباكات جرت في جوبر وامتدت إلى ساحة العباسيين وسط دمشق.
I called my relatives in Damascus, they are not sure about Jobar but the “news” about Baghdad st and Tahrir square are not true as of now.
January 30th, 2012, 7:00 am
majedkhaldoun said:
The meeting at UN will be attended by several foreign ministers in cluding Hilary Clinton ,and Alan Jupai,this gives the meeting more importance.
The regime is severely escalating its terrorist solution,2000 soldier from republican guard are used to quell the Ghouta revolution,
Major Maher Nu3aimi said the fighting is close to Damascus(8-12Km) but not in Damascus.The FSA is more defiant.This is what is called Karr and Farr,the purpose is to weaken the Thuggish Assad criminal army.
GOD BLESS FSA
January 30th, 2012, 7:47 am
irritated said:
442. majedkhaldoun
Do you mean that the British proposition will be close to the Russian resolution, that means will NOT request the step down of Bashar al Assad?
That will be a very good resolution with a high chance that Russia and China will accept it
“I expect England to introduce a resolution about Syria
Immidiate halt to violence by the regime
immidiate release of all prisoners
followed by starting negotiation between the regime and opposition.”
January 30th, 2012, 8:04 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
There are many posts here in SC related to Russian and Chinese press agrencies. I observed that there are some names I associate with Russia, Ukranie, and the mafious post-communism world. Is it really possible that decaying paranormal russian secret services have people working on this kind of forums? I notice they are interested in promoting conspiracy theories, terrorist pulp fictions, and so on.
I imagine rumors about someone trying to control the airport in Damascus are all but a lie for psychological war on Assad.
Sure, all photos and videos about people of every age and sex hurted by bullets are being done right now in Hollywood.
Russian secret services should control Putin, because the are theories that say Putin is an alien from Mars who came to control the Vodka market.
January 30th, 2012, 8:07 am
zoo said:
An annoyance for HBJ: Russia asks to hear Al Dabi report before any UN discussion.
http://news.yahoo.com/assads-forces-regain-damascus-suburbs-activists-000119502.html
“On Monday, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov Moscow first wanted to hear directly from the observers whom the Arab League sent – a move likely to delay any vote:
“It would be logical, considering the complexity of this issue, for Security Council members to be able to study the recommendations and conclusions of the observer mission in detail,” the Interfax news agency quoted Gatilov as saying.
“Only after that would it be possible to count on a substantive discussion of this issue in the Security Council.”
January 30th, 2012, 8:12 am
zoo said:
In the Gulf, allegiance is the issue for Muslim Brotherhood
Hassan Hassan
Jan 30, 2012
http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/comment/in-the-gulf-allegiance-is-the-issue-for-muslim-brotherhood?pageCount=0
…
“Despite alliances with powerful individuals in Gulf countries, alliances that survived the crackdown since the 1990s, the Muslim Brotherhood has not established an unfettered presence in the region. Experience has created a deep distrust between the Gulf states and the organisation.
In Kuwait, where the group has a relatively strong presence, Sheikh Soud Al Nasser Al Sabah accused it of conspiring with Saddam Hussein after the Iraqi invasion. In 2004, Saudi Arabia’s Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz (now the crown prince) described the organisation as the “source of all problems”. Many Gulf intellectuals have also been critical of the organisation for its shifting relations with countries in the region.
The organisation is witnessing a sharp decline in the Gulf as countries follow more systematic regulations to prevent its spread and to monitor financial flows. But its political presence in Egypt may lead the Brotherhood to seek better relations for pragmatic reasons rather than attempting to spread its ideology.
January 30th, 2012, 8:31 am
Tara said:
Russia wants to slow the progress of a UNSC vote to gain more time to negotiate a price for Assad’s head
“Russia seems to have begun its moves to block or slow the progress of a UN security council vote on the Arab League plan for Bashar al-Assad to step down as Syria’s president, Reuters reports.
Gennady Gatilov, Russia’s deputy foreign minister, said that recommendations from the Arab League monitors in Syria should be presented to security council members, including Russia, before there was a “substantive discussion of this issue” by the security council.
Gatilov said:
It would be logical, considering the complexity of this issue, for security council members to be able to study the recommendations and conclusions of the observer mission in detail. Only after that would it be possible to count on a substantive discussion of this issue in the security council.
Nabil Elaraby, the chief of the Arab League, is due to brief security council members tomorrow to seek support for the league’s plan. Britain and France want the security council to vote next week on a draft resolution supporting the plan, which would see Assad step down in favour of his vice-president and allow free and fair elections.
On Friday, Gatilov said the draft resolution was unacceptable in its current form and an attempt to rush it to a vote would fail, suggesting Russia might veto it. Assad’s resignation must not be a precondition of a peace process in Syria, he said.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/jan/30/syria-army-retakes-damascus-suburbs
January 30th, 2012, 8:38 am
Ghufran said:
Rumors about the execution of Harmoush are waking up again, I think they are spread to incite fear and rage. The guy is most probably alive and may be used in the future as a bargaining chip.
Copying the news as published which most of us do is not the same as analysis or personal opinion.
The FSA is more of a political tool than actual fighting force. Most armed anti regime groups are not part of the FSA, they are locally created and led,and many are infiltrated by thugs.
January 30th, 2012, 9:04 am
Revlon said:
Poetry break: Let it be, Daraa! Let it be!
by
Horan Poet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJW4J4NPkkw&feature=related
………
Don’t shed a tear,
Let it be
………
He will fall
N’
We shall live
January 30th, 2012, 9:11 am
zoo said:
Breaking news: Bashar al Assad accepts to meet the opposition in Moscow
Question: Which opposition?
January 30th, 2012, 9:35 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Zoo
there is one opposition only and that is SNC SNC SNC
However he must stop the brutal terrorist murders and must release all prisoners and must hold internationally monitored election.
January 30th, 2012, 9:48 am
norman said:
AL Maleh refused talking with the government, talking for himself or the opposition, the government in Syria needs to move on reform and let the others catch up.
January 30th, 2012, 9:59 am
jad said:
There are more than 6 main opposition groups in Syria:
-SNC aka MBs including the LCC, (No independent agenda, Syrian version of 14th of march)
-NCB, Nationalists, Leftist (the most respected)
-Kurdish union (the main Kurdish parties)
-Independents (individual) mainly intellectual figures like (Kilo, Husein…etc)
-The third way (Domestic) they are the least aggressive (regime-friendly)
-Salafis/Alqaeda light, the followers of Arour and his lunatic likes.
-And the military opposition wing, the terrorists FSA (Paid militias run by international powers, Turkey, Gulf states and the west)
As expected the SNC refused the Russian proposal:
المجلس الوطني السوري: سنرفض الدعوة الروسية للحوار مع النظام
اعلن المجلس الوطني السوري أنه سيرفض الدعوة الروسية للحوار مع النظام. وفي هذا الإطار أكد عضو المجلس سمير نشار أنه “لا حوار إلا بعد تنحي الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد”.
January 30th, 2012, 10:12 am
Revlon said:
Assad authority in restive cities and towns is now limited to when and where his heavy armored divisions move to.
Otherwise, FSA forces have been able access these areas, thanks to the support of their inhabitants and the retreat of the once extensive and fearsome security forces.
إدلب كفرنبل كتيبة شهداء كفرنبل تسيطر على وسط المدينة لفترة من الزمن 29 1 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Eizv97vigPA
Uploaded by SYR4ALL on Jan 29, 2012
وغاريت الرستن حمص , هاااام , الجيش الحر يسيطر على عدد من الحارات والحواجز الأمنية في وسط المدينة, الملازم اول
28 1 2012 Al Rastan, Homs
January 30th, 2012, 10:12 am
jad said:
The retaliation barbaric crimes in Homs continue, this time a whole family where executed including 4 children by the terrorist armed militias of fsa:
HNN| شـبكة أخـبار حمص
خاص شبکة أخبار حمص الأولی
http://www.facebook.com/HNN.SYRIA
– مجموعات مسلحة تتحرك بشکل علني بواسطت سيارات من نوع بيك آب مجهزة برشاشات في حي جب الجندلي بالقرب من مسبح الجلاء
وعملت هذه المجموعات علی اطلاق الرصاص عشوائيا باتجاه حي الزهراء وعلی شارع الستين
ويجري الآن التعامل معهم من قبل الجهات المختصة
ومازالت الاشتباکات مستمرة هناك بشکل عنيف
– قام بعض المسلحين بسرقة سيارة سيراتو لأحد المواطنين علی شارع الستين
– ووجود قناص غادر بالقرب من دوار فدعوس في الشارع المؤدي إلی جب الجندلي يعمل علی استهداف المواطنين الأبرياء
– ووصل إلی المشفی الأهلي ما يقارب العشر إصابات توزعت ما بين مدنيين وعسکريين
– مجموعة مسلحة تغتال المدرسة ربا ابراهيم بالقرب من جامع خالد بن الوليد
والشهيدة حملت في أحشائها شهيد آخر لکونها کانت حاملا
– تم العثور اليوم علی عائلة مقتولة في حي النازحين مکونة من 6 أشخاص حيث تم قتل الأب والأم بالرصاص فيما لقي الأطفال حتفهم ذبحا وهم
الأب: محمد المحمد
الأم: سناء الخضر
الأطفال :
أمجد المحمد
تحيات المحمد
تسلين المحمد
ابتسام المحمد
– کما قام إخوان الشياطين باغتيال الدکتور مصطفی سفر أمام منزله في حي الشماس
– انفجار عنيف في حي الحميدية علی حاجز السوق المسقوف
– تصفية 140 مسلح في أحياء الشماس وباب عمرو والخالدية والقصير وجب الجندلي
خاص شبکة أخبار حمص الأولی
http://www.facebook.com/HNN.SYRIA
January 30th, 2012, 10:18 am
Revlon said:
«السوري الحر» يحبط محاولة لتهريب زوجة «الأسد» ووالدته وأبنائه من مطار دمشق
FSA fails an attempt to smuggle Jr’s wife and entourage through Damascus international airport.
The interception was lead by recently defected, brigadair General Mohammad Khallouf.
Egyptian Today News Paper
28/01/2012
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/49300
2012/01/29نشر فى: أخبار محلية
صحيفة المصري اليوم
أكدت مصادر سورية مطلعة، مساء الأحد، أن قوات الجيش السوري الحر أحبطت محاولة تهريب أسماء الأسد، زوجة الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد، وأبنائها، ووالدته أنيسة مخلوف، وابن خاله رامي مخلوف، وأبنائه، إلى خارج سوريا عبر مطار دمشق.
وقالت المصادر لـ«المصري اليوم»: «إن موكب سيارات رسمية شوهدت متجهة إلى مطار دمشق»، قبل أن يعترضها أحد اللواءات المنشقين عن الجيش النظامي، المنضم لـ«الجيش السوري الحر«، حيث جرى تبادل كثيف لإطلاق النار، وقصف بالهليكوبتر، قبل أن يتمكن أمن الرئيس من تهريب الموكب وإعادته إلى قصر الرئاسة.
وأوضح المصدر أن المعارك الضارية التي اندلعت، صباح الأحد، بين قوات الجيش السوري الحر المنشق، والقوات النظامية، في محيط مطار دمشق، جرت أثناء مطاردة قوات المخابرات السورية للواء المنشق محمد خلوف، رئيس فرع فلسطين السابق في المخابرات السورية، الذي انشق في وقت سابق الأحد.
وأوضحت المصادر، أن اللواء «خلوف» كان يتنقل من مدينة إلى مدينة في ريف دمشق، هرباً من القوات الحكومية التي كانت تطارده، إلى أن وصل إلى منطقة الغوطة القريبة من مطار دمشق.
وأضاف المصدر، أن اللواء «خلوف»، الذي كانت «المصري اليوم» تحتفظ باسمه، خوفاً على أمنه الشخصي، ومجموعته العسكرية المكونة من 300 جندي، التي انشقت معه، فوجئوا بالموكب العسكري، فاعترضوه، يقينًا منهم بأنها محاولة للهروب.
وجرى إطلاق النار بين قوات الأمن القائمة على حراسة الموكب، وقوات «خلوف»، قبل أن تتدخل الطائرات الهليكوبتر بغطاء جوي لحماية الموكب، مما أدى إلى تكثيف عملية القصف، في محيط المطار، لاسيما في قرية رنكوس القريبة من منطقة الزبداني.
وقال عبدالحليم خدام، النائب السابق للرئيس السوري، والمقيم منذ سنوات في باريس: «إن المعلومات الواردة إليه من سوريا، تفيد بأن عمليات القصف حول المطار أدت إلى إيقاف حركة الملاحة الجوية».
وأضاف «خدام» أن المخابرات السورية قامت بقطع الطريق المؤدي من مدينة دمشق إلى المطار في وقت سابق.
وأكدت مصادر من المعارضة السورية أن المعارك مازالت تدور، مساء الأحد، في محيط مطار دمشق الدولي، وامتدت إلى ساحة العباسيين في العاصمة وفي شارع بغداد.
كانت سوريا قد شهدت، الأحد، أحداثًا ساخنة مع تواتر أنباء عن
»محاولة انقلاب عسكري»، وتزايد أعداد المنشقين عن الجيش، وهو ما أدى، حسب مصادر، رفضت الإفصاح عن هويتها، لـ«المصري اليوم»، إلى محاولة تهريب أسرة الرئيس بشار الأسد.
كانت «المصري اليوم» قد انفردت في وقت سابق، الأحد، بنشر أنباء عن اشتباكات مطار دمشق، دون أن تفصح عن اسم اللواء محمد خلوف، الذي اعترض موكب أسرة بشار الأسد، المتجهة إلى مطار دمشق، خوفاً على أمنه الشخصي، حسب طلب مصادر «المصري اليوم».
January 30th, 2012, 10:36 am
annie said:
Addounia TV referendum
29 Sunday Jan 2012
Posted by Zak in Arab Spring, Syria
If there is any joke in the Syrian revolution, it’s the Addounia TV, the private channel linked to the Syrian regime. Addounia was always the masquerade of all the [state] media reporting on the uprising since its start in March 2011.
Its latest is a live poll, or a referendum as they call it, where they call its audience to show their ‘popular support’ for the army crackdown on the armed gangs. The audience can do that by sending an empty text or email message!
So it’s not a ‘yes or not’ type question, there is no opposite view (not part of the reforms), and there is no benchmark at which we can know the answer is SUCCESS. Addounia already assumed the soundness of the military option, and they just want people to sign up to it. Irrespective of the number of the votes (they need two votes only to win), the results will be to their side because they are counting the messages received, and NOT the messages that were NOT sent!
What’s funny is that they give us (or to themselves) confidence in the process by promising that they will pass on the results to the Syrian defence minister. Oh yes! His army’s shelling is waiting…
source : http://lebanonspring.com/2012/01/29/addounia-syrian-tv-poll-referendum-state-propaganda/#more-3840
January 30th, 2012, 10:39 am
irritated said:
#479 Annie
“If there is any joke in the Syrian revolution, it’s the Addounia TV”,
The other one is you.
January 30th, 2012, 10:54 am
Tara said:
Irritated,
Your post is disappointing!!
January 30th, 2012, 10:57 am
Syria no Kandahar said:
10080 virgins(or grapes according to Juergen friend)to be distributed over 140 Terrorists just checked into Hell today.
January 30th, 2012, 10:59 am
Revlon said:
إنسحاب الدكتور أحمد فائز الفواز من هيئة التنسيق
Another withdrawal from NCB: Dr Fawaz AlFawaz, President of the Human Rights Society in Syria.
Being a veteran leading communist and a potential beneficiary of any future Russian sponsored deal, His withdrawal at this time may point to evolving loss of confidence in the ability of Russian mediation to prop up the falling regime!
2012/01/30نشر فى: أخبار محلية
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/49370
احمد صلال : فيس بوك
إنسحاب الدكتور أحمد فائز الفواز-رئيس جمعية حقوق الإنسان في سوريا,والقيادي البارز في الحزب الشيوعي السوري-المكتب السياسي سابقاً,من هيئة التنسيق.
January 30th, 2012, 10:59 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
No wonder the junta is demoralized
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNXZxL2zarY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIiZF8sl_Gk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2v653ItRA8
Couldn’t they learn from the Israeli experience that tanks are useless, not to say death traps, in an urban environment?
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January 30th, 2012, 11:41 am
jad said:
A new competition to the FSA, another militia is formed called the Syrian national army….as if we need another one of those…
اليوم السابع: الإعلان عن الجيش الوطني السوري لحماية المدنيين خلال أيام
علم “اليوم السابع”، من مصادر مطلعة أنه في غضون أيام قليلة جداً سيتم الإعلان عن تأسيس “الجيش الوطني السوري”، المقرر أن يضم مجموعة من الضباط من الرتب العالية ومجموعة كبيرة من صف الضباط والمجندين.
وأضافت أن “مهمة الجيش الجديد ستكون مقتصرة فقط على حماية المدنيين دون استهداف الجيش السوري التابع للرئيس بشار الأسد، وأنه لن يتعرض لقوات الأسد إلا في حالات الدفاع عن النفس وفق منهجية عسكرية وخطط إستراتيجية واضحة، وسيكون له قيادة ميدانية واحدة، وهذا ما يختلف فيه الجيش الوطني السوري عن الجيش السوري الحر الذي يتألف من عسكريين منشقين ومدنيين يعملون وفق منهجية غير واضحة ولا يملكون قيادة حقيقية”.
January 30th, 2012, 12:03 pm
ann said:
484. jad said:
A new competition to the FSA, another militia is formed called the Syrian national army SNA….as if we need another one of those…
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They’re all united under the order of DOI (Donkeys Of Israel) 😀
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January 30th, 2012, 12:08 pm
irritated said:
Tara #480
This is the least of my concerns.
January 30th, 2012, 12:10 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
Trying to make Wahhabis more disappointed:
قتل 4 واعتقال 20 إرهابي لبناني بحمص أمس.. «الأخبار»: 100 وهابي لبناني يقاتلون بسوريا
نقلت صحيفة “الأخبار” اللبنانية عن مصادر أمنية سورية، أن هناك أكثر من 4 إرهابيين لبنانيين قد سقطوا على الأراضي السورية أمس. وأشارت المعلومات نفسها إلى أن عشرين شخصاً كانوا بصدد القيام بأعمال إرهابية داخل حمص، وقعوا في عملية نوعية للجيش العربي السوري. وذكرت المعلومات أن جميع أفراد المجموعة سقطوا بين قتيل وجريح ومعتقل.
من جانب آخر نقلت الصحيفة اللبنانية عن مصادر لها داخل عصابات رايض الأسعد الإرهابية وجود نحو 100 إرهابي من الحركة الوهابية اللبنانية منضوين في صفوف عصابات «الجيش الحر». وتؤكد المعلومات أن هؤلاء يشاركون في أعمال إرهاب ضمن الأراضي السورية، تتراوح بين نقل السلاح وصولاً إلى تنفيذ عمليات عسكرية في العمق السوري، ويتولى التنسيق بين المقاتلين شخص لبناني يُعرف بـ«المهندس وائل» حسب “الأخبار” دائما.
January 30th, 2012, 12:14 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
Surgery continue.god willing all Alaaroori cells will
Be removed:
مقتل 140 مسلحاً بينهم جنسيات عربية بحوزتهم قواذف «شيبون 300» الإسرائيلية في عدد من أحياء حمص
قالت مراسلة شوكوماكو في حمص أن مجموعة إرهابية مسلحة أقدمت على اقتحام منزل المواطن محمد تركي المحمد في حي النازحين وأقدمت على قتله وقتل زوجته ابتسام الخضر وأطفاله الأربعة ابتسام وتحيات وأسينات وأمجد المحمد الذين وجدوا مذبوحين.
كما وأقدمت مجموعة مسلحة على اغتيال المدرسة ربا أحمد في مدرسة المتميزين وذلك عند إشارة الخالدية، وقبضت الجهات المختصة على المهندس البتروكيميائي المدعو أبو مرعي في حي باباعمرو وهو الذي صنع قاذف مدفع بطول مترين ليستخدمه المسلحون في استهدافهم للمدنيين والعسكريين.
وأشارت مراسلتنا إلى مقتل 140 مسلحاً منهم جنسيات لبنانية ومصرية وتونسية وسعودية، وضبطت الجهات المختصة بحوزتهم على أنظمة إرتباط أمريكية وإسرائيلية متطورة، إضافة إلى قذائف نوع شيبون 300 وذلك في أحياء مختلفة من حمص منها الإنشاءات والنازحين وباب السباع وباباعمرو والقصير والخالدية والشماس وديربعلبة.
كما واختطف مجموعات مسلحة المدني كنان حيروقة “20 عاماً” من أمام مبنى إدارة النفوس، وسطت على ميكرو باص وشاحنة تحت تهديد السلاح.
وقال مراسلنا أن حي القصور والقرابيص وشارع البرازيل شهد اليوم ظهوراً علنياً لبعض المسلحين، فيما حاول آخرون منهم اقتحام بعض الاحياء وخاصة الزهراء والأرمن وعشيرة.
هذا ولاتزال المجموعات الإرهابية المسلحة تستهدف المشفى الوطني بحمص من أربع جهات.
January 30th, 2012, 12:17 pm
Tara said:
Bashar sending Asma and the kids abroad?
Too good to be true?
“The Syrian opposition has claimed that Bashar al-Assad’s British-born wife Asma, tried to flee the country with help from the security forces.
From the Jerusalem Post:
The sources told Al-Masry Al-Youm that “a convoy of official vehicles was seen heading to the airport in Damascus”, before they were intercepted by brigades of army defectors.
According to the source, there was a heavy exchange of fire, which prevented the family’s escape, who then returned to the presidential palace.
We cannot confirm this report.
Mrs Assad has been criticised by many for staying silent during the bloodshed in Syria, while Vogue magazine was also condemned for a gushing profile of her – later taken down – entitled “A Rose in the Desert”, which praised the Assads as “wildly democratic”.
She made a rare public appearance with her children at a rally in Damascus earlier this month. But in today’s Times, Martin Fletcher says her views on what is happening in the country remain a mystery (paywall).
A Saudi newspaper recently claimed that she had intervened to help some employees of one of her charities who were arrested for joining an anti-government demonstration. In September she reportedly summoned some aid workers to find out what was really happening in Homs, although she apparently remained expressionless when they told her. A family friend told a Syrian source based in London that she “wasn’t sleeping at night because she’s so worried”.
Of course, it is possible that living in relatively peaceful Damascus and being surrounded by regime stalwarts, Mrs Assad really believes the regime’s propaganda about the opposition being a bunch of armed terrorists. It is possible that she is in denial, especially as she appears to be devoted to her husband and may well believe that he alone can hold his disparate country together. But neither scenario seems likely. “She’s too clever — too smart — for that,” the Arab commentator says. “She knows everything. She’s fully aware,” says her former Syrian colleague, who insists that she has full access to the internet and western media. “She’s highly intelligent and worldly wise. I find it very difficult to imagine she shares the view that this is a conspiracy of saboteurs and al-Qaida,” says a friend of her father’s.
Everyone agrees, however, that if she is appalled by the crackdown there is little she can do except plead with her husband in the privacy of their home.”
January 30th, 2012, 12:20 pm
Tara said:
Irritated
Your response @486 is quite helpful…in no uncertain way.
January 30th, 2012, 12:25 pm
irritated said:
The more desperate the opposition becomes, the more absurd rumors appear, happily carried by idiotic media.
Escaping by car? Are the all army helicopters down?
Report: Assad’s family attempts to escape Syria
By JPOST.COM STAFF 01/30/2012 03:45
http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=255681
Syrian security forces attempted to smuggle President Bashar Assad’s family out of the country, sources from the Syrian opposition told Al-Masry-Al-Youm Sunday evening, according to a report published by the Egyptian daily.
According to the report, security forces tried to aid the president’s wife Asma Assad, to escape via Damascus, along with his sons, mother and cousin.
The sources told Al-Masry-Al-Youm that “a convoy of official vehicles was seen heading to the airport in Damascus,” before they were intercepted by brigades of army defectors.
According to the source, there was a heavy exchange of fire, which prevented the family’s escape, who then returned to the presidential palace.
January 30th, 2012, 12:25 pm
irritated said:
#489 Tara
The more desperate the opposition becomes, the more rumors appear, happily carried by idiotic media, where is Radio Free Annie?
Escaping by car? Are all the army helicopters down?
January 30th, 2012, 12:28 pm
ann said:
At UN on Syria, “No Vote Tuesday,” S. Africa Says, On AU Post, Ban’s Bilats
http://www.innercitypress.com/syria3lasau013012.html
UNITED NATIONS, January 30 — As the UN Security Council convened Monday morning about South Sudan, most of the talk by Ambassadors at the stakeout was on Syria.
The outgoing President of the Council Baso Sangqu of South Africa told Inner City Press that the agreement last week was to have a meeting this afternoon at the experts’ level on the draft resolution(s), then to have Permanent Representatives meet on Wednesday.
So there’s no way a vote on Tuesday, he said.
Tuesday afternoon’s session, he also said, will be open: briefings by Arab League Secretary General Al-Arabi and “the Qatari minister” HBJ, statements by Syria and then the Council’s 15 members. “It will be open” to the press, he said, but closed as to other countries speaking.
Asked which countries’ ministers would be coming to what’s billed as a ministerial meeting, he listed the US, UK and Portugal. The French Mission to the UN has already announced Alain Juppe will come, and speak to the media.
One wag has already dubbed it the Council’s “Syria Superbowl.”
Germany’s foreign minister, it’s said, is traveling in the Middle East, as will be UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon after his stops in Davos and at the African Union summit in Davos.
Full English text of AL Monitors report on Syria:
http://www.innercitypress.com/LASomSyria.pdf
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January 30th, 2012, 12:32 pm
irritated said:
Tara #489
The more desperate the opposition gets, the more they spread rumors.
By car to the airport? what happened to the Army helicopters?
January 30th, 2012, 12:36 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
“……..As expected the SNC refused the Russian proposal:
المجلس الوطني السوري: سنرفض الدعوة الروسية للحوار مع النظام
اعلن المجلس الوطني السوري أنه سيرفض الدعوة الروسية للحوار مع النظام. وفي هذا الإطار أكد عضو المجلس سمير نشار أنه “لا حوار إلا بعد تنحي الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد”…..”
I don’t blame them, who would want to negotiate now after all the killings and iron fist. But dessolution of the Baath party ( the Mafia) is even more important than the Shia backed mafia puppet removal.
January 30th, 2012, 12:39 pm
Aldendeshe said:
The Russians are a step behind. Instead of arranging Opposition-Socialist Mafia talks in Moscow, they should be arranging Mafia surrender terms, that is the right negotiation now.
January 30th, 2012, 12:47 pm
irritated said:
#493. Syrian Nationalist Party
For the sake of saving lives, one would accept to negotiate with the devil.
All wars that get into a stalemate end necessarily with negotiations between parties whose hands may be full of the blood of innocents.
After 10 months, is Ghalioun still hoping for a victory? He is wrongly advised and has an ego issue. He should step aside and let the negotiations happen as they will sooner or later with or without him.
January 30th, 2012, 12:55 pm
norman said:
For All these people who want a military end to the crises, should read this and reflect on what they are trying to do, as a broken Syria as a broken glass will never be the same,
(((A militarization of the revolution would empower the most radical elements, as it did in Libya, and render future democratization much more difficult. A foreign intervention would open Pandora’s box.
Those who would like Assad to fall are now confronted with the old Machiavelli vs. Kant philosophical dilemma: does the end justify the means or do the means determine the end? A comprehensive study, published by Columbia University Press and analyzing dozens of past cases, suggests that the latter is true. It indicates that if a dictator is overthrown through peaceful struggle, there is a 51 percent chance of a successful democratic transition after five years. In case of an armed struggle, the chances are only three percent.
The Syrian opposition is understandably impatient to bring Assad down and breathe freely. It should nonetheless meditate on these figures.)))
January 30th, 2012, 12:55 pm
ann said:
Iraqi officials outraged by use of US drones: report – 14 hrs ago
http://news.yahoo.com/iraqi-officials-outraged-us-drones-report-031724609.html
Iraqi officials have expressed outrage at the United States’ use of a small fleet of surveillance drones to help protect the US embassy, consulates and American personnel in Iraq, The New York Times reported.
The newspaper said the State Department began operating some drones in Iraq last year on a trial basis and stepped up their use after the last US troops left the country in December.
The US government plans to take bids for the management of drone operations in Iraq over the next five years, the report said.
January 30th, 2012, 1:00 pm
ann said:
U.S. Embassy shelters Americans amid Egypt NGO crackdown – 43 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/u-embassy-shelters-americans-amid-egypt-ngo-crackdown-171743321.html
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Several American citizens have taken refuge in the U.S. Embassy in Cairo amid a sharpening dispute between Washington and Egypt’s military-led authorities over U.S.-funded pro-democracy groups in the country, the State Department said on Monday.
“We can confirm that a handful of U.S. citizens have opted to stay in the embassy compound in Cairo while waiting for permission to depart Egypt,” State Department spokeswoman Kate Starr said.
The unusual step of offering U.S. citizens diplomatic refuge follows Cairo’s crackdown on non-governmental organizations, including several funded by the U.S. government, which saw travel bans imposed on six American staffers including a son of U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood.
Egyptian police first raided the groups in late December as part of an investigation into foreign funding of 17 pro-democracy and human rights groups, part of what civil society groups say has been a broader crackdown on critics of the army’s heavy-handed tactics in dealing with street unrest.
January 30th, 2012, 1:05 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Annie said
“If there is any joke in the Syrian revolution, it’s the Addounia TV”
the other joke is to have people here on SC quote aldounia, Bassam AlQadi
The only opposition is SNC, the NCB has no support among protesters, and it is very funny mentioning the “friendly opposition”,this is just deranged.
next thing we hear from them saying Shabbiha are opposition.
As far as Asma fleeing,I doubt it she will leave secretely.she will fly from the palace to the Russian base in Tartous.
January 30th, 2012, 1:08 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Norman
The ends justify the means ,if forced on us
For example you give chemotherapy poisons to cure the patient from cancer, or you treat with radiation,a very harmful thing to normal tissue, or cut the patient to remove his inflamed appendix,
January 30th, 2012, 1:14 pm
Jerusalem said:
A wise man said: The robust sanctions against Iran won’t work by themselves. By Leslie H. Gelb
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/30/leslie-h-gelb-on-how-president-obama-should-handle-iran.html
January 30th, 2012, 1:15 pm
Mina said:
News from Egypt: Salafists planting seeds of fitna for the next century. As I wanted to seat with a man in a popular cafe in Cairo, I was offered to seat inside a shop to be “hidden” from the small side-street. The guy vending yogurts threw the coins of change back to avoid touching my hand. There is now one mosque on two which has a non-melodic adhan. Most people I know among the Beduins in South Sinai don’t know that the party of “hurriya and adala (freedom and equality)” are the Ikhwan. The same people think that Mubarak was just fine and that he preserved peace and should not be treated this way. At the same time, people start to question why the police is visible at check points but does not check for ANYTHING, except when they “shoot to kill” a runaway car, as they have been authorized by the army. In a small town, some were planning to vote Hizb al-nur (i. e. the Salafists, calling themselves “party of the umma muhammadiyya” on some posters; just as the name “ikhwan” does not appear on the hurriya wa adala posters) because they were going to start free Coran lessons for children, men and women but refrained to do so after they heard they said it was haram to greet a Christian for a Christian feast. Great way of spreading their beliefs. The war against al Azhar has started.
January 30th, 2012, 1:20 pm
irritated said:
Majed #499
“As far as Asma fleeing,I doubt it she will leave secretely.she will fly from the palace to the Russian base in Tartous.”
Then please advise your pathetic friends in the SNC opposition not to spread rumors that you don’t even believe.
January 30th, 2012, 1:23 pm
jad said:
Wikileaks:
Qatar plans for Egypt..
فضائح ويكيليكس: قطر أبلغت إسرائيل خطة لضرب مصر .. والعصا “الجزيرة”
الإثنين, 30 / 01 / 2012
يستمر موقع ويكيليكس في عرض مفاجأة تلو أخرى، وتبدو كالعادة متسقة مع الأحداث والأسئلة الراهنة، وإن لم يستطع ويكيليكس نشر الوثائق لسبب أو لآخر فإن تسريبها أمر متوقع.
في وثيقة حديثة أشيع أن الموقع سربها تم الكشف عن أن رئيس الوزراء وزير الخارجية القطري حمد بن جاسم بن جبر آل ثاني أبلغ “إسرائيل” أن الدوحة تتبنى خطة لضرب استقرار مصر بعنف والأمر كذلك يشمل لعبا بمشاعر المصريين لإحداث الفوضى عن طريق قناة الجزيرة باعتبارها عنصرا محوريا في الخطة، وفي لقاء سري جمع بين بن جاسم ومسؤول إسرائيلي نافذ في السلطة أبلغه فيه نيته تلك، وصف مصر بـ”الطبيب الذي لديه مريض واحد” ويفضل أن يستمر مرضه لفائدته الخاصة، واعتبر بن جاسم أن المريض الذي لدى مصر هو القضية الفلسطينية في إشارة منه إلى أن مصر تريد إطالة أمد القضية الفلسطينية دون حل حتى لا تصبح مصر بلا قضية تضعها في منصب القائد للمنطقة العربية.
تسرب وثائق مدفوعة الثمن
أشار جوليان أسانج مؤسس موقع ويكيليكس إلى أن لديه 7 وثائق عن قطر نشر منها 5 وثائق وحجب وثيقتين، ويقال أن ذلك جاء بعد تفاوض قطر مع إدارة الموقع الذي طلب مبالغ ضخمة حتى لا يتم النشر لما تحويه من معلومات خطيرة عن لقاءات مع مسؤولين إسرائيليين وأمريكيين كانت في مجملها للتحريض ضد مصر، ويقال كذلك إن الموقع حصل على الثمن من قطر.
وكجثة الغريق التي تأبى إلا أن تطفو، فإن عدة وسائل إعلامية وصلتها تسريبات عن الأمر، أهمها جريدة “الغارديان” البريطانية والتي نشرت نص الوثيقتين على موقعها، وشملت ضمن محتواها تحليل السفارة الأميركية لموقع قناة “الجزيرة” على خريطة التحرك السياسي لقطر ودورها في رسم ملامح سياسة قطر الخارجية.
الوثيقة ولقاء الـ 50 دقيقة
وتتحدث الوثيقة التي حملت رقم 432 بتاريخ الأول من تموز 2009 عن اللقاء الذي استغرق 50 دقيقة بين الشيخ حمد بن جاسم وقناة “الجزيرة” والذي أسهب فيه بن جاسم عن السياسة الخارجية القطرية في عدد من الموضوعات بما فيها المصالحة الفلسطينية و”عملية السلام” ولم يدّخر جهداً في شن هجوم شرس على مصر وسياساتها بشكل مباشر وغير مباشر في لحظات أخرى، وقد قام السفير الأميركي بتحليل اللقاء، وأشار في مجمل تحليله إلى كون “الجزيرة” أداة في يد القطريين يستخدمونها كيفما يشاؤون لخدمة مصالحهم على حساب قوى أخرى بطبيعة الحال.
“جزيرة” الخارجية القطرية
أما الوثيقة الثانية والتي حملت رقم 677 بتاريخ 19 تشرين الثاني 2009 فقد تعلّقت بتقييم شامل تعده الأقسام المختلفة بالسفارة كل في اختصاصه حول قطر وتطرق التقييم إلى دور قناة “الجزيرة” في منظومة السياسة القطرية وتحليل توجهات الشبكة منذ تولي الرئيس الأميركي باراك أوباما لمقاليد السلطة في واشنطن، وأشارت الوثيقة إلى أن تغطية “الجزيرة” أصبحت أكثر إيجابية تجاه الولايات المتحدة في الوقت نفسه يؤكد التقييم بقاء “الجزيرة” كأداة للسياسة الخارجية القطرية.
لم تنته المعلومات عند هذا الحد الذي يراه البعض بديهيا، لكن اللافت الحقيقي و المثير كذلك هو تأكيد الوثيقتين على جزئية تكليف بن جاسم، بعد اجتماعه بعدد من المسؤولين الإسرائيليين والأميركان – للجزيرة ببث كل ما يزكي إشعال الفتنة في الشارع، و ليس الأهم هو مابين الشعب والنظام، لكن بين المصريين أنفسهم كشعب، ولتكتمل الصورة البارزة ذكرت الوثيقة أن توتر العلاقات مع الدوحة لأي نظام عربي سيجر عواصم هذا النظام أو ذاك لأزمة مخيفة، باعتبار أن النظام القطري يستخدم دائماً قناة “الجزيرة” كعصا تصفية الحسابات مع خصومه، وهذه الوصفة نجحت أكثر من مرة في إشعال الجو العام في عدد كبير من الأماكن.
January 30th, 2012, 1:25 pm
norman said:
Majed,
Yes , but i do not overdose the patient and kill him in the process as the oppositions are doing to Syria.
January 30th, 2012, 1:31 pm
Mina said:
When you read this (thans Angry Arab) you wonder who is trying to fool who? So the Saudis do not interfere in anyone else’s politics?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/27/conversation-at-davos-with-prince-turki-al-faisal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fworld+%28Internal+-+World+Latest+-+Text%29
I start to think that the “Arab spring” will implement Pakistani- democracy types all over. Terror for all, and Christians on the run. How come Pakistanis get refugee status everywhere, if democracy is so well functioning? Haven’t the presidents of Iraq and Afghanistan been elected with massive fraud?
January 30th, 2012, 1:32 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Norman
Certainly you do not overdose,then you dont have to, it is not forced on you, there is alternative here. BUT THE END SOMETIMES,IF IT IS FORCED ON US AND NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE,THEN THE END JUSTIFY THE MEANS
What I am saying that this is wrong saying and has to be corrected.
Irritated
Asma is trying to leave Syria, she is afraid, some said she has constant headache, she has been taking pills, she can not stand it anymore.
January 30th, 2012, 1:41 pm
Aldendeshe said:
@495. irritated
If the regime has any plan to negotiate, they would have done so long time ago, before killing 6000+ Syrians, they oferred IRON FIST, that is all, loud and clear. SNC, under current membership composition, have no chance of liberating Syria without Turkey/Arab or Nato invasion, even if a half of Syrian army defected. And should they do that, they will have no powers in Syria anyway, either the occupying forces will do so and hire them as front puppets, the way the Baathist mafia hired Bashar, or Nationalists will secure the majority of votes and powers, kick the occupiers out. Syria is not socially made up like Libya and Egypt. It is going to be a long rough ride and possible stalemate, unless one side tip the balance. The Mafia can only sit out and slowly dissintegrate, they have no other option now. SNC have other options that can advance it further, but don’t bet of know how and creativity here, they keep hitting on the Mafia most soild strength and wonder why they are hitting the wall.
January 30th, 2012, 2:06 pm
jad said:
Hi Mina,
No wonder the Stani dude is promoting his ideas on SC.
Did you check the new Wikileaks?
Fresh news from the new ‘democracy’ and ‘freedom’
هيومن رايتس ووتش: السعودية توقف أثيوبيين مسيحيين في صلاة خاصة
اعلنت “هيومن رايتس ووتش” اليوم ان “خمسة أثيوبيين مسيحيي الديانة أصبحوا على ذمة الترحيل من السعودية بتهمة “الاختلاط” بعد أن أوقفتهم الشرطة لدى مداهمتها لتجمع صلاة خاصة في جدة أواسط كانون الأول 2011. من بين الموقوفين 29 سيدة. تعرضوا للتفتيش الذاتي التعسفي رهن الاحتجاز، على حد قول ثلاثة أثيوبيين لـ هيومن رايتس ووتش”.
وبحسب “هيومن رايتس ووتش”، فقد تجمع الأثيوبيون للصلاة في 15 كانون الأول، أثناء مناسبة دينية مسيحية، في بيت أحد الأثيوبيين، فاقتحمت الشرطة المكان وقبضت عليهم، على حد قول ثلاثة من المجموعة، هم لـ”هيومن رايتس ووتش”.
وقال كريستوف ويلكي، باحث في قسم الشرق الأوسط في هيومن رايتس ووتش: “بينما نظم الملك عبد الله مركز حوار الأديان الدولي، تقوم شرطته بخرق حقوق أتباع الديانات الأخرى. على الحكومة السعودية أن تغير من أساليبها المتعصبة قبل أن تلجأ لترويج الحوار الديني في الخارج”.
أمضى الرجال الأثيوبيون يومين في مركز شرطة النزهة في جدة، وبعد ذلك نقلتهم الشرطة إلى سجن بريمان. تم نقل السيدات إلى سجن بريمان قبل ذلك. قالت سيدتان إن المسؤولات هناك أجبرن السيدات على التعري، ثم أدخلت ضابطة شرطة إصبعها في المنطقة التناسلية لكل سيدة منهن، بدعوى البحث عن مواد غير قانونية مخبأة داخل الجسد. ارتدت قفازاً بلاستيكياً لم تغيره بين عمليات الفحص، على حد قول السيدات لـ هيومن رايتس ووتش. كما ركل الضباط الرجال في سجن بريمان وضربوهم، ووصفوهم بأنهم “كفار”، على حد قول رجل أثيوبي سجين.
قال الأثيوبيون – وقد تحدثوا عن طريق الهاتف من السجن – إن بعد الاعتقال بعشرة أيام تقريباً نُقلت مجموعة منهم إلى المحكمة، حيث اضطروا لوضع بصماتهم على وثيقة دون أن يُسمح لهم بقراءتها. قال المسؤولون للمجموعة إنهم متهمون بـ”الاختلاط” بأفراد غير متزوجين من الجنس الآخر.
وقال كريستوف ويلكي: “خالفت الحكومة السعودية وعودها الخاصة بالأديان الأخرى”. وتابع: “الرجال والنساء من الديانات الأخرى لا مكان لهم للعبادة في السعودية، حتى الصلاة داخل بيوتهم لم تعد آمنة”.
Irritated,
You had to ask, here you go another rumor…’headache’ ‘pills’
January 30th, 2012, 2:08 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Right or false? Syrian rebels detain more members of Iran´s Republican Guard transporting chemical weapons to Assad armed gangs.
ضربة قاسية جديدة تلقاها الحرس الثوري الإيراني على يد الثوار في
سورية. ووفق مصدر واسع الاطلاع جرى اليوم اعتقال كادر في الحرس الثوري كان يشرف على نقل شاحنة مزودة بقنابل كيماوية إلى فرقة تابعة لكتائب الأسد. الاعتقال جرى في بنش في منطقة أدلب حيث وضع الثوار يدهم على الشاحنة.
January 30th, 2012, 2:17 pm
jad said:
Irritated, Here we go another rumor…Happy now!?
I guess the Syrians should be very worried if any of those criminal terrorists put their hands on any ‘chemical’ weapons, however, if it’s true, I’m sure the Americans will bomb the s*** out of them not the Syrian Army.
January 30th, 2012, 2:26 pm
Juergen said:
Irritated
I have seen twice government officials arrive in Damascus airport and went on the autoroute to Damascus. One time it was Hugo Chavez, the other time i assume someone from the family was travelling. They just closed the exit onto the Airport road, we could see them passing by.
An other time I saw Asmaa riding her car on Medhat Basha with the Queen Sophia of Spain at her side, just one security car was behind her. Needless to say that the street was filled with muhabarat thugs. I was quite surprised i remember, not only is a car on that road during the day rare, but of course herself riding was unusual to me, but my syrian friends told me they see them many times, especially around some restaurants in the old city like Al Khawaly and Naraanj.
January 30th, 2012, 2:27 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
The escalation of suppression and violent brutal criminal regime response will certainly invite foreign intervention,and soon.
January 30th, 2012, 2:33 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
After the uprising in Syria it´s not easy to predict who will prevail. If Assad did then it´s easy to imagine how syrian Assad regime will be seen from abroad as a cruel and criminal (ilegitimate) regime that denied its people most basic rights of democracy.
Assad will be indicted for crimes against Humanity and its image will be definitely damaged around the globe. Syria will never be the same. And the idea that Syria is a mosaic of religions living peacefully will never be credible again.
In this case forget about tourism coming back to the country as before. So, I wonder how ¨mustafedeen¨ from tourism sector keep on hailing the Assad regime and its crimes.
January 30th, 2012, 2:55 pm
Mina said:
Didn’t hit the headlines!
http://www.thejournal.ie/bomb-found-on-libyan-plan-in-cairo-337859-Jan2012/
(on January 25th, during the celebrations)
http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/nigeria-pres-de-200-arrestations-la-plupart-de-tchadiens-26-01-2012-1423919_24.php
Qatar airlines is getting bigger by the day.
January 30th, 2012, 3:08 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
513. majedkhaldoun said:
The escalation of suppression and violent brutal criminal regime response will certainly invite foreign intervention,and soon.
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Yes, that is the MB/SNC all along strategy to get to power in Syria, the way the SOFA Shia in Iraq got into control, by having invaders/ occupiers hiring them as front, in the hope that when the invaders leaves, they will be all set to rule with advantage.
They know the chance of doing so on own popularity and strength, be it military or intellectual, even social one, is ZERO. But that is a dead ender, wishful thinkers pipe dream. What SNC needs, is to stop clinging on pipe dreams and hitting heads on teh Mafia solid walls and start widen its appeal and reputaion to the populace, in the hope that they can be independent, able to rule collectively with other Syrian groups than a hand-me-down rule from an occupying forces that may last few days before a Nationalist Coalition, with Nationalist army units, mount an offensive at 4:30 AM and fill the Mazzeh or Tadmour prison with fresh faces. It takes brain, more than force and terror to rule a country like Syria.
January 30th, 2012, 3:21 pm
agatha said:
Shadi Hamid from the Brookings Institut in Doha was talking at the WEF
he gives dark forecastes for Syria
interview: http://bazonline.ch/ausland/naher-osten-und-afrika/Eine-Militaeraktion-kann-nur-mit-den-USA-und-Europa-gelingen/story/24082086
January 30th, 2012, 3:42 pm
Alan said:
«Eine Militäraktion kann nur mit den USA und Europa gelingen»
Who will give Syria to destruction it ? Russia? Or China?
It is necessary to know the world map is better
January 30th, 2012, 4:03 pm
Alan said:
January 30th, 2012, 4:12 pm
Alan said:
excuse for quality of translation
The Syrian hackers couldn’t bring down a site of embassy of the Russian Federation in India
Moscow, on January, 30th. The Syrian hackers didn’t manage to bring down a site of embassy of Russia in India. As transfer “Messages”, attack has been beaten successfully off, the site functions in full.
The information on that cybercriminals managed to crack the Russian diplomatic missions in India and Singapore, the senior adviser of embassy of the Russian Federation in India Sergey Karmalito has denied. It was informed that hackers have placed on the specified sites a photo of killed children and an appeal to the Russian authorities to stop to deliver the weapon to a mode of Bashara Asada.
“Contrary to these statements which, obviously, were based on the information transferred by cyberactive workers of opposition of Syria in a press, on a site of embassy of the Russian Federation in India вышеозначенная the information wasn’t displayed”, — has underlined Karmalito.
Let’s remind, on Saturday the Syrian National board (СНС) has urged the Syrian diasporas to spend in the different countries protest actions before embassies and consulates of the Russian Federation in protest at a position of Moscow in the UN Security Council under the conflict to Syria.
Earlier head Sergey Lavrov has twisted the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation that the position of Russia remains former: “we for the violence termination in Syria from both parties”. He also has noticed that, “working with the Syrian management, condemning violence against peace citizens from army and forces of law and order, we not less resolutely condemn provocations against the governmental parts”.
Opposition between a mode of Bashara Asada and the Syrian opposition has begun in March, 2011. From the beginning of national excitements 400 children were lost not less than 7 thousand persons, including almost. On January, 23rd the management of Syria has rejected the plan of delegation of power offered by League of the Arabian states.
January 30th, 2012, 4:16 pm
jad said:
Alan,
The US and EU politics only know how to destroy ‘coloured’ people’s countries and civilizations but never learned, not even once, of how to rebuild them.
قتلى “الجيش الحر” في طرقات “سقبا”.. وبعضهم ترك سلاحه وهرب
خاص عربي برس
يبدو أن خيار الحسم النهائي بالوسائل العسكرية قد أتُخذ على أعلى المستويات في سورية، وهذا ما يفسره على الأرض طبيعة العمليات التي تحمل صفة “التطهيرية” للعصابات المسلحة أو عناصر ما بات يعرف بالجيش الحر، والتي تقودها وحدات الجيش العربي السوري منذ ما يقارب الخمسة أيام في أنحاء متفرقة من سورية.
الأبرز في هذه العمليات هي العملية التي لم يعد أهل دمشق يسمعون عنها في الفضائيات والإعلام العربي، بل أصبحت حقيقة يستيقظ عليها أهالي دمشق، وخصوصاً الساكنين في أحيائها الشرقية والشمالية الشرقية، فعلى أصوات إطلاق النار والانفجارات ينام أهالي هذه الأحياء ويستيقظون، فالعملية الأمنية مستمرة منذ ما يقارب الأربعة أيام في ريف دمشق وخصوصاً في منطقة الغوطة الشرقية، والتي تمتد من دوما شمالاً إلى قرى كفربطنا وسقبا جنوباً، وبينها حرستا وزملكا وعربين.. والقرى التي تقع في محيطها..
حصيلة الأربعة أيام تشير إلى أن الكفة تميل بشكل واضح للجيش العربي السوري، وخصوصاً بعد تمكنه من استعادة مدينة حرستا بشمل كامل، وسيطرته الجزئية على دوما، مع وجود بعض الجيوب التي يتحصن بها المسلحون حتى اليوم، ووصول قوات الجيش في العمق حتى قرى كفربطنا وسقبا التي تبعد عن الأوتستراد الدولي الذي يفصل المدينة عن الريف مسافة 7 كم؛ ما يعني أن الجيش سيطر على كل القرى والبلدات الواقعة في هذه المنطقة والتي هي بشكل رئيسي، زملكا وعربين وعين ترما وحزة وحمورية..
محاولاتنا لدخول المنطقة باءت بالفشل، حيث منعتنا القوات العسكرية من الاقتراب من هذه المنطقة، حتى التي استعادت السيطرة عليها، وذلك بسبب عدم القضاء بشكل نهائي على المسلحين، وهم يهربون من مكان وينتقلون ليهاجموا في مكان آخر، ما يعني أن السيطرة الكاملة لم تتحقق حتى اليوم، بحسب ما أخبرنا مصدر عسكري رفض الكشف عن اسمه.
وكشف المصدر عن أن قوات الجيش تواجه مقاومة عنيفة وخصوصاً مع طبيعة الأسلحة التي يملكها المسلحون وأهمها الرشاشات الثقيلة الموضوعة على سيارات بيك آب والتي اشتهر تنظيم القاعدة باستخدامها بكثرة، واستخدمها “الثوار” الليبيون بكثرة، وأيضاً قواذف الأر بي جي.
بينما رفض الحديث عن طائرات الهليكوبتر التي استخدمها الجيش أمس السبت، وطبيعة المهمة التي قامت بها، ولكن شهود عيان من المناطق المحيطة أخبرونا أن الحوامات لم تكن كثيرة، حيث لاحظوا استخدام حوامتين فقط، ولم تقم بالمشاركة بالعمليات القتالية، وربما كانت بهدف مواكبة تحركات المسلحين من الجو، وكشف طريقة تنقلهم.
التقينا أحد الخارجين من المنطقة، والذي أخبرنا عن أن الاشتباكات عنيفة جداً ولا تقتصر على الرشاشات الخفيفة، بل هناك استخدام لقذائف لا يعرف طبيعتها أو مصدرها، بسبب أصوات الانفجارات الكثيرة التي يسمعها القاطنون في المنطقة، كما إن الاشتباكات تأخذ شكل الكر والفر، حيث تهدأ لفترة ولا تلبث أن تتجدد في منطقة أخرى.
وعن أحوال السكان هناك قال “الوضع الحالي سيء منذ فترة، حتى قبل دخول الجيش، بسبب قيام الجيش الحر بنصب الحواجز وتوزيع المسلحين في الطرقات، وتفتيش الناس ومنعهم من تأدية أعمالهم أو التنقل بحرية، ما أثر بشكل كبير على معيشة الناس، فبلدة سقبا على سبيل المثال تضم سوقاً كبيرة للمفروشات وهي مغلقة منذ فترة بسبب عدم قدرة الزبائن من دمشق على الوصول إليها، حيث يشكل هؤلاء نسبة 90 من زبائن السوق”.
وأضاف “انتشر العشرات من المسلحين في الطرقات خلال ساعات، وأعلنوا المناطق التي يسيطرون عليها بأنها مناطق حرة، وهم يملكون أسلحة ثقيلة، ورشاشات”، وقال إن كل الناس رأوا السيارات التي تحمل رشاشات كبيرة، والتي تتمركز على الحواجز، وترهب الناس.
وعن حركة النزوح التي تحدثت عنها بعض الفضائيات، قال الشاهد وهو من أهالي كفر بطنا، “لا يوجد نزوح كما تصوره الجزيرة، بل من لديه مكان آخر أو أقارب في منطقة بعيدة عن الاشتباكات فضل الابتعاد، بينما باقي السكان لزموا بيوتهم ولا يخرجون منها إلا في حالات الضرورة”.
كما قدر أن الجيش بحاجة إلى يومين آخرين ليقوم باستكمال مهمته بسبب المساحة الكبيرة لتلك المنطقة، وهروب المسلحين من قرية إلى أخرى والجيش يلاحقهم.
وأضاف “عندما خرجت من منزلي وتوجهت إلى دمشق رأيت في بلدة “سقبا” أسلحة مرمية على الأرض، عبارة عن رشاشات وجعب عسكرية ومخازن، وهي مناطق كان يسيطر عليها المسلحون ويقيمون فيها حاجز، ما يعني أن البعض منهم يرمي سلاحه ويهرب”..
وقدر عدد القتلى بين صفوف المسلحين بالكبير، حيث أخبرنا عن جثث لأفراد منهم ما زالوا في الطرقات، ولم يقوموا بسحبها من الشارع، بسبب استمرار الاشتباكات، وأشار إلى أن عمليات الجيش نوعية ومركزة وليست عشوائية..
http://arabi-press.com/?page=article&id=20255
January 30th, 2012, 4:19 pm
Antoine said:
SNP,
Who are the “SOFA” Shia in Iraq ?
January 30th, 2012, 4:24 pm
Mawal95 said:
Since Joshua Landis is still banging on about a role for sectarianism, I will rehash what I’ve said in rebuttal before.
Here’s what Joshua Landis said in June 2011: “The Opposition if it’s going to be successful will probably have to exploit the sectarian divisons that exist in Syria and try to get Sunnis to abandon the Alawites [interpret: abandon the regime]. They haven’t done it so far…. The majority Sunnis could abandon the regime, which they haven’t done so far.”
Here’s Joshua Landis in January 2012: “The Assads stand atop the last minoritarian regime in the Levant…. The need… to shame Sunni supporters of the regime to defect is moving the Opposition toward a sectarian logic.” And here’s what Joshua could’ve added in January 2012: “The majority Sunnis could abandon the regime, which they haven’t done so far.”
The great majority of the government cabinet ministers, provincial governors, chairpersons of municipal councils, and other visible public figures of the regime are Sunni in their religion. The religious composition of the Syrian Baath Party is at least 80 percent Sunni, and the same is true among the people who control the larger private enterprises. The religious composition of the country as a whole is 75 percent Sunni. Nothing important can happen or be sustained in Syria if most Sunnis object to it. It is a fact that people who are Sunni in their religion constitute the main plank of the regime’s support. Because the support for the regime is preponderantly Sunni, an anti-regime uprising by other Sunnis cannot be sectarian as such. It can potentially be Islamist. But not sectarian as such.
Most of the Sunni religiously conservative classes did not join the anti-regime demonstrations in year 2011. Neither did the clergy; most of the Sunni clerical leadership went on record as anti-tumult and pro-civil-process. Most of the people who attended the mosque on Friday did not attend an anti-regime demonstration afterwards, not even if a demonstration was conveniently on offer to them at the doorstep. The neighborhoods in Damascus city with a high concentration of religiously conservative people had only small, and few, demonstrations over the last ten months. One of the Assad regime’s core constituencies is people who are less religious or who have a more progressive, less doctrinaire, take on religion (Sunni or other). So it is a very big and important achievement that the regime has been able to maintain its support among most of the religiously conservative. Or at least the religious conservatives consciously refused the opportunity to rebel when presented with it this past year. Perhaps many of them may vote for another party in the elections. But since most of them don’t express alienation against the regime, you shouldn’t expect them to vote en masse against the regime. Furthermore the anti-regime protesters out on the streets have been largely and essentially free of sectarian slogans and sectarian imagery for ten months, despite the fact that the great bulk of the protesters have been poorly educated Sunnis. That’s another sign that a quasi-religious or quasi-sectarian Sunni political party does not attract broad political support from Sunni hearts and minds.
The comprehensive reform of the institutions of State currently being implemented by the regime includes a renewed legal ban on religious political parties. Bashar Assad said in December 2011 “no movement that acts under religious slogans and aims to split the Syrian society can hope for legalization.” Syria’s Sunni Grand Mufti, Ahmad Hassoun, has said that this renewed ban on religious political parties is harmless to religion. Not much disagreement about that can be found among Syria’s Sunnis, neither among the Establishment Sunnis nor among the protesters on the streets. The Syrian Establishment of all sects — and in particular the bulk of the better educated Sunnis — do not want to support sectarian politics; they have consciously opted to support governmental secularism as the best framework for harmony among the sects. The type of Sunnis in Syria with the sort of opinion that could create sectarianism are a disreputable minority without realistic hope of changing the minds of the rest. Intermittent concrete examples of sectarian sentiment keep popping up as popular news stories but they aren’t stories about fundamentals. Looking at fundamentals, the most important fundamental is that the sects are not in disagreement today over any important policy question, at all. You can’t have sectarian cleavage in the absence of an associated cleavage over one or more important policy questions. Especially not when sectarian parties are banned. The anti-regime protesters have been disproportionately Sunni, almost exclusively Sunni, but the great majority of Sunnis have not been anti-regime this past year in their observable behaviour. Syria’s Vice President Farouq al-Sharaa said in July 2011 that Syria is “immune to sectarianism”. President Bashar Al-Assad said in December 2011 that “a sectarian crisis was never present in Syria” in year 2011. The key reason that Syria is immune to sectarianism is that Syrian society is dominated by an Establishment that is predominantly Sunni, in both the government and private sectors, and the Establishment Sunnis do not want to support sectarian politics or Sunni chauvinism — to their great credit.
January 30th, 2012, 4:28 pm
Antoine said:
SNP said : “SNC, under current membership composition, have no chance of liberating Syria without Turkey/Arab or Nato invasion, even if a half of Syrian army defected”
Hypothetically, if half of the Syrian Army defected, what would stop them from overruning Damascus ? ( with a little bit of outside help)
January 30th, 2012, 4:29 pm
Antoine said:
MAWAL95,
You know full well that the number of Provincial Governors, attorneys, Party branch secretaries, Mayors, etc. belonging to any particular sect doesn’t mean there sin;t any sectariam favouritism going on.
In the middle east, it is Military muscle that matters – control over Armoured units, artillery, missile and rocket forces, Special Forces and Aviation units, chemical weapons, total control over internal Intelligence – these is what matters, and you know that a particular sect monopolises these in Syria ( not just in Syria but in other Arab countries as well)
January 30th, 2012, 4:36 pm
Mawal95 said:
The Syrian security forces are the forces of the people, by the people, for the people.
Non-Sunnis are disproportionately numerous in the upper ranks of the security forces but still the upper ranks are at least fifty percent Sunni today, as they have always been since the very begining of this regime four or five decades ago. Joshua Landis says above “So long as the Syrian military leadership remains united… the Assad regime is likely to survive.” I say on the contrary that if the entire military leadership remained totally united, it would be abandoned and overthrown almost bloodlessly, and in a short timeframe, if the majority Sunni people of Syria wished to overthrow the regime. This is because the Syrian security forces are the forces of the people, by the people, for the people.
Allah Souria Ash-Shaab Assad ou bas. Hooray!
January 30th, 2012, 4:51 pm
Antoine said:
Well then why are Helicopter special forces, Rocket forces ( armed with chemical warheads), T-72 armoured units disproportionately manned by people of the First family’s sect ? More to the point, why are the above named forces located disproportionately in Western Syria, leaving the Iraqi front under-equipped ?
January 30th, 2012, 4:59 pm
irritated said:
#522 Mawal95
Most foreign Syria ‘specialists’ keep insisting on the sectarianism of the uprising is Syria. This is nothing but their inability to comprehend why this regime is so cohesive and how it fonctions. So they simply to the caricature.
They invoke the army supposedly in the hands of the Alawites but with a christian chief and sunnis commanders and all sorts of rantings about the composition of the Baath etc…
The fact is that this regime is ‘mysteriously’ cohesive and it needs much more studies than the oversimplification of sunnis vs alawites to understand it.
I am tired of reading about the sunnis pro-alawites, the christians pro-sunnis, the kurds pro-alawites etc…
When all is over, these ‘specialists’ should do a real anthropological study of the regime to understand it.
In the meantime, they should spare us explanations that are solely based on sectarianism. They are not relevant.
January 30th, 2012, 5:07 pm
sf94123 said:
Members of the SNC demonstrated to us again that they weren’t able to see beyond the Libyan scenario. They had another golden opportunity to gain a little recognition from the Syrian people. Instead, they showed us that they are manipulated, fragmented, deeply divided and unconcerned about the well-being of Syria and Syrians…On the other hand, nothing new will come out of the UNSC, the Russian initiative is the ONLY way out of this mess and every honest broker should participate.
We are approaching the point of no return. Time is of the Essence! Let’s stop daily death and destruction.
January 30th, 2012, 5:18 pm
Mawal95 said:
Walid Al-Moallem on 28 Nov 2011: “I take pride in the Syrian people…. I assure you that the Syrian people’s word is the Syrian leadership’s decision.” Walid Al-Moallem on 24 Jan 2012: “We [the government] draw our strength primarily from the people of Syria.”
Notice in Joshua’s post above that Joshua has nothing to say about what’s in the minds of the people of Syria, which we on the pro-regime side uphold as our primary strength. Joshua’s got nothing to say about the people of Syria except, of course, his unsupported and certainly false verbiage about sectarianism.
January 30th, 2012, 5:18 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
MAWAL95
Are you 17 years old? Are you one of auto-denominated Assad´s soldiers? Or Junud Al-Assad. If you are really 17 you are lucky because many people that could show what really happened is already dead.
Please take two minutes of you short life to read and analyze what you wrote:
¨The Syrian security forces are the forces of the people, by the people, for the people.¨
1) The syrian security forces are the forces of the people:
You mean that are the forces of the people in power, forces that defend the people in power. Because as far as I know regular people have no faith in security forces when they need to demand regime abuses and briberies from state institutions. Even more, some moukhabarat became burglars in their free time when they found that life was becoming too expensive. You know this is true.
2) The syrian security forces are by the people:
Do you mean that they are elected by the people? No one in this country has been elected by the people for at least 40 years. If this is the concept of democracy your intellect can reach sorry but we are not talking about the same thing.
3) The syrian security forces are for the people:
In fact, they are for the people to be controlled, repressed and tortured, and even killed when people don´t understand that these forces are OF, BY and FOR the people.
January 30th, 2012, 5:19 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
528. SF94123
Every scenario is different from each other. This is true. This is why you should not think that the question is over. The fact that foreign nations did not enter to Syria yet does not mean they don´t have their plans to do it when necessary. Everything is written. So don´t panic. What must happen will finally happen.
January 30th, 2012, 5:25 pm
irritated said:
Jad
ref: rumors
The bad news for the hardline opposition is that the army mutineers are been defeated, that the HBJ resolution is probably going straight to the UN dustbin, and that Russians are getting the upper hand on the situation.
The only good news for the opposition are these rumors supposed to cheer them up, at least for a few minutes.
January 30th, 2012, 5:29 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
MAWAL95
Please take 30 seconds to analyze this other sentence.
¨Allah Souria Ash-Shaab Assad ou bas. Hooray!¨
Considering that Allah and Souria are common to all syrians whatever its religion or province can be, your sentence is reduced to:
¨As-shab Assad ou bas. Hooray¨
I think it is too childish to be in a forum about Syria issues like SC. You are saying nothing. Many of the Assad milicias have a limited IQ and repeat slogans like you do. It is terrifying to find people calling the name of the leader the clan as if you were apes in the jungle.
January 30th, 2012, 5:32 pm
Juergen said:
The german embassy in Damascus has closed its doors to the public, only emergency staff is present.
January 30th, 2012, 5:37 pm
sf94123 said:
To 531 SANDRO LOEWE,
So you agree that the unrest in Syria was planned in advance and it had nothing to do with freedom and democracy.
January 30th, 2012, 5:42 pm
Juergen said:
Le Monde photographer captured photos of the Nasihine massacre in Homs on 26 of January 2012
http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/infographe/2012/01/28/les-photographies-des-corps-du-massacre-de-nasihine_1635913_3218.html
January 30th, 2012, 5:43 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
JUERGEN
Almost all european embassies are closed ¨de facto¨. They just remain for emergency issues, specially related to syrians who hold double nationality (thousands of them still living in Syria). And many could be trapped inside the country if airport stops working or air embargo takes place.
In august 2.011 I heard about high level diplomats in Lebanon and Syria telling friends and families to leave as soon as possible.
January 30th, 2012, 5:48 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
535. sf94123
So you agree that syrian people is fed up of living in fear under slavery conditions with lack of freedom, dignity and economical means?
January 30th, 2012, 5:52 pm
newfolder said:
FSA in Hirak Daraa targets a security forces van killing all inside
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYxnUpwgET4
January 30th, 2012, 5:53 pm
Darryl said:
505. MINA said:
Thank you Mina for linking this article where I have pasted his highness’s closing statement:
” The prince says he doesn’t agree, but he doesn’t necessarily disagree, either.
“With our brain power, and Jewish wealth,” he says, “we can do wonders.”
I should frame this statement as the Saudi’s whose main concern is NikaH and to spread their version of Islam as demonstrated by the numerous sat. channels and who are still working on the Hummous recipe; they have more brain power than the Jews who have given the world so many inventions, so many medical firsts and back it up with over 170 Nobel prize winners. The Jews could only manage to contribute in wealth, wow!
No wonder the Americans and west went to keep them in power for as long as possible!
January 30th, 2012, 5:55 pm
zoo said:
Syria: Assad Retains Backers Battling the Opposition
By AYMAN MOHYELDIN / DERAA | Time.com – 1 hr 10 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/report-syria-brutal-shadowy-war-hearts-minds-174500647.html
….
“Unlike the Arab revolutions in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya where critical masses quickly and overwhelmingly exposed the unpopularity of their regimes, the battle for the hearts and minds of Syrians and those watching the uprising from afar still rages, just like the 10-month conflict itself.”
January 30th, 2012, 5:59 pm
irritated said:
#537. Juergen
“Le Monde photographer captured photos of the Nasihine massacre in Homs on 26 of January 2012″”
Another FSA blunder or personal vendetta?
I thought foreign journalists were severely restricted then who allowed this photographer to take these photos?
January 30th, 2012, 6:03 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
JUERGEN
http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/infographe/2012/01/28/les-photographies-des-corps-du-massacre-de-nasihine_1635913_3218.html
In their faces Assadists can see they are terrorists.
Allah, Souria, al rafiq al munaadeel Al Assad wa bas…
January 30th, 2012, 6:06 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
542. IRRITATED
You are right, this photografer should have asked a permission from the moukhabaraat nearer station. Sure by paying 100 SP he had reached it fastly.
January 30th, 2012, 6:08 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
It´s infestated of minhebaks all around. No diallogue possible. So, good luck and good night.
Wahda, Hurriya, Ishtirakia. Assad lil abad. Kulluna Assad.
Assad, mukhabaraat, fassad wa bas.
January 30th, 2012, 6:12 pm
sf94123 said:
TO 538. SANDRO LOEWE:
Personally, I lived in Syria for over 30 years and I never experienced any type of slavery condition or lack of economical means…I don’t know what you are talking about!
I decided to leave the country because I felt that some minorities have no future in the Middle East due to Islam control of constitution and society…. My freedom was compromised. That all.
January 30th, 2012, 6:19 pm
ann said:
U.S. supports political solution to unrest in Syria: White House – 2012-01-31
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/31/c_122631215.htm
WASHINGTON, Jan. 30 (Xinhua) — The White House said on Monday that the United States supports a political solution that stops the violence in Syria.
White House spokesman Jay Carney made the comment in response to a question about Syrian government’s willingness to participate in Moscow-mediated talks to resolve the crisis facing the Arab nation.
He said, “Well, we don’t have details at this point on that meeting. But in general we support efforts to reach a political solution that stops the violence in Syria.”
“We’re intensely discussing with the Russians the real deterioration on the ground in Syria and the very disturbing rise in violence there,” he said at a regular news briefing.
Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said on Monday that his veto-wielding country would not back the latest Western- Arab draft resolution on Syria, as the U.S. and other Western countries are pressing the UN Security Council for a resolution supporting an Arab League call for Syrian President Bashar al- Assad to cede power.
However, the Russian Foreign Ministry said the Syrian authorities have responded positively to Russia’s call for talks in Moscow, and called on the Syrian opposition to join the talks by “putting the interests of the Syrian people above all other concerns.”
January 30th, 2012, 6:21 pm
zoo said:
Michael Weiss, Pro Israeli Neocon, authors blueprint for western military intervention in Syria approved by Syrian ex-pats
Richard Silverstein.com
January 13, 2012
Pro-Israel neocon hawk Michael Weiss brags, in a new piece in Foreign Policy Magazine, that he has drafted a blueprint adopted by the Syrian opposition, which includes a call for foreign military intervention:
…The SNC [Syrian National Council] launched its official Web site [which], drawing on a blueprint I prepared…[made an] aggressive call for foreign military intervention…
Frankly, I find it astonishing that the Syrian resistance would allow such a Perle-Wolfowitz-type character to influence its strategic deliberations.
…Read more:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/michael-weiss-pro-israeli-neocon-authors-blueprint-for-western-military-intervention-in-syria-approved-by-syrian-ex-pats.html
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A ridiculously funny new article of Michael Weiss ( note the Ben Laden clones in the photo and the Tchechen- like red bearded rebel)
The view from Damascus: Assad regime is ‘weak’ and ‘robbing banks’ to finance repression
January 26th, 2012
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/michaelweiss/100132839/the-view-from-damascus-assad-regime-is-weak-and-robbing-banks-to-finance-repression/
…
Do you believe the regime will be able to survive much longer?
The regime is so weak, it is even robbing banks and artefacts from museums to later sell them as it has no liquidity. The FSA ranks are increasing as there are defectors daily. We believe the regime could last for two more months. Damascus suburbs are filled with the FSA units which control many areas.
The regime is robbing banks?
Rebels saw security forces in Deraa and Hama surround a bank and rob it. It happened twice. In Deraa, security forces robbed a museum.
{…}
January 30th, 2012, 6:24 pm
ann said:
Syrian forces fight terrorists near Damascus, killing many gunmen: ministry – 2012-01-31
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/31/c_122631221.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 30 (Xinhua) — Syria’s specialized authorities have conducted “qualitative” operations in eastern suburbs of the capital Damascus, killing many “terrorists” and confiscating large quantities of weapons and ammunition, Syria’s Ministry of Interior said Monday. “Over the past three days the specialized authorities carried out qualitative operations in eastern suburbs of Damascus, including Douma, Harasta, Saqba, and Hamoriah,” said the ministry in a statement carried out by the state media.
“The operations aimed to put an end to the armed groups, which have committed the most terrible crimes of murder and kidnapping against citizens,” the statement said, adding: “After clashing with those groups, which were equipped with Israeli and American- made weapons, the authorities discovered secret hideouts which have been used by those groups to hid kidnapped people and prepare handmade explosives.”
The ministry said that hunting remnants of the armed men is currently underway, pointing out that many residents of the restive suburbs have implored the government to put an end to the practices of those groups.
The government forces stepped up the crackdown over the past days on violence in restive areas in central Syria and Damascus suburbs, as the leadership pledged to beat “terrorists” with an iron grip.
In his recent televised appearance, Syrian President Bashar al- Assad said that “we will defeat the plot,” adding that “they ( conspirators) are in their final stage.”
“Restoring security is the ultimate priority for Syria at this stage,” he said. “Terrorists would be beaten with an iron fist.”
Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem has recently stressed that a security solution in Syria has become a “popular demand by the Syrian people but won’t be the sole solution.”
He added that some of the opposition figures have instruction from outside not to take part in the dialogue called for by the government.
January 30th, 2012, 6:25 pm
ann said:
Syrian opposition shows mixed reactions toward Russian initiative – 2012-01-31
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-01/31/c_122631219.htm
DAMASCUS, Jan. 30 (Xinhua) — The Syrian opposition at home gave mixed reactions toward Russia’s new offer to broker unconditional informal talks between Syrian authorities and the opposition, signaling a deep fissure among its ranks.
Russia has offered to host unconditional informal talks between Syrian authorities and the opposition, its foreign ministry said Monday.
Russia hoped the move would help the Syrian parties discuss issues without restrictions in order to end the violence in the Middle East country as soon as possible, the ministry said in a statement.
The Syrian authorities had agreed to the proposal and Moscow hoped the opposition will also give consent soon, it said.
“Never … we are not going to embark on a dialogue with the regime … especially now after it has ramped up its military offensive across the country,” said Hasan Abdul-Azim, head of the opposition National Coordination Committee.
In an interview with Xinhua, Azim stressed his support to the Arab League (AL) initiative as a sole way to end the months-long unrest.
For his side, Loai Hussain told Xinhua that “if the dialogue is serious and is of a negotiable nature we will surely take part in it.”
He, however, expressed discontent about Russia’s mediation, saying the mediator should be unanimously agreed upon by all opposition factions.
Russia’s new proposal came as the Syrian army is launching a wide-scale campaign to stamp out the armed insurgency across the country, particularly in the suburbs of Damascus which have spun out of the government control recently.
Some Syrian private media reported that the Syrian army had regained control of eastern suburbs of Damascus.
Earlier in the day, Syria’s al-Watan newspaper reported that the Syrian army was launching “surgery operation” in Damascus’ suburbs.
It said the armed forces are precisely fighting a battle in Damascus’ surroundings to cleanse it from “armed groups that have been heavily deployed in villages and towns.”
January 30th, 2012, 6:42 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
Israel is THE ONLY beneficiary of this Bernard levy crappy invention called Syrian revolution .
With all the doors of hell Israel opened on Syria,
Now Israel can keep the land and the peace,Syria meanwhile instead of having the land for peace will be losing both lands and peace!!in fact Syrians are trading now peace for land between each other,thanks to the demons Bernard and Hamad,and mainly thanks to so many Syrians proofing that they are stupid:
يبدو أن مخاوف وهواجس المسيحيين السوريين من مفاعيل وتداعيات الأزمة السورية الراهنة على وجودهم ومصيرهم لم تعد في اطار التكهنات والتقديرات وانما أصبح لها ما يبررها ويعززها على أرض الواقع،حيث شهدت أكثر من منطقة سورية في الآونة الأخيرة عمليات قتل وحوادث ترويع استهدفت مسيحيين آمنين. ففي محافظة الحسكة بدأت المجموعات مارقة على القانون والأخلاق والأعراف الاجتماعية والقيم الدينية تظهر على السطح تهدد الآشوريين(سريان/كلدان) والمسيحيين عموماً والسطو على أراضيهم الزراعية.
فقد قامت مجموعات من “عشائر العرب” تحت التهديد بالسلاح والقتل رافعين شعار”الأرض مقابل السلام”،أي تخلوا عن الأرض مقابل ضمان سلامتكم، بالاستيلاء على أراض زراعية تعود ملكيتها لآشوريين(سريان) في العديد من قرى منطقة القامشلي(وطوطية- دمخية صغيرة- ابو راسين- صافية).الأمر الذي سبب غضب وغليان واحتقان في الشارع الآشوري(السرياني) والمسيحي في محافظة الحسكة.
وعلى أثر هذه الاعتداءات السافرة والتهديدات البربرية، سارعت (لجنة الكنائس والعلاقات المسيحية)، التي تشكلت مؤخراً في القامشلي لمتابعة الحالة المسيحية في ضوء الحدث السوري،سارعت بتشكيل وفد كبير من نحو 40 شخصية، ضم رؤساء جميع الطوائف المسيحية والمجالس الملية ووجهاء ونخب شبابية.قابل الوفد محافظ الحسكة اللواء (معاذ سلوم) ونقلوا له حقيقة ما جرى ووضعوه أمام مسؤولياته الوطنية والأخلاقية والقانونية وحملوا السلطات المعنية في المحافظة عواقب والتداعيات الخطيرة لهذه التجاوزات الغير مسبوقة على السلم الأهلي في منطقة الجزيرة. فضلاً عن تواصل لجنة العلاقات المسيحية مع شيوخ ووجهاء العشائر العربية ودعوتهم لاجتماع عاجل لوضعهم في الصورة ومطالبتهم بالتدخل واستخدام سلطتهم العشائرية لردع المعتدين والمارقين واعادة الأرض لأصحابها. لكن رغم الكلام الجميل والمعسول والمواقف والوعود الايجابية التي صدرت من الجميع، مازالت السلطات المعنية في المحافظة تتلكأ في إعادة الأراضي لأصحابها وفي القبض على المعتدين واحالتهم الى القضاء. الأمر الذي زاد من التوتر والاحتقان في المجتمع المسيحي وزاد من الشكوك بتواطؤ بعض الدوائر الحكومية المحلية والعشائر العربية في هذه القضية الخطيرة جداً بأبعادها على السلم الأهلي والعيش
المشترك بين مكونات المجتمع السوري.
هذه الاعتداءات على أراضي الآشوريين والمسيحيين ليست الأولى من نوعها في محافظة الحسكة حيث توجد العديد من القضايا المماثلة في قرية الوطوطية وغيرها من قرى القامشلي والحسكة والخابور.. وقد صدرت أحكام قطعية منذ سنوات من المحاكم السورية المختصة تقضي باعادة الأرض الى اصحابها الحقيقيين لكن الى تاريخه لم تنفذ هذه الأحكام وبقيت الأراضي المستولى عليها بيد المتسلطين والمارقين عن القانون.
وفي سياق متصل ، أغتيل أمس الأربعاء الأب (باسيليوس نصار) الكاهن في بلدة كفربهم بمدينة حماه ،بينما كان برفقة الأب بندلايمون العيسى يقومان بانقاذ شاب مصاب في الحي،حيث تعرض الأب باسيليوس لطلقات نارية استشهد على أثرها . بصرف النظر عن الجهة التي خططت ونفذت جريمة اغتيال الأب باسيليوس، فأن استهداف رجل ديني مسيحي في هذه الظروف العصيبة التي تمر بها سوريا هو بمثابة رسالة خطيرة وخطيرة جداً الى جميع المسيحيين السوريين. فهذه الجريمة النكراء تأتي في اطار مخطط الفتنة الطائفية والحرب الأهلية التي تسعى جهات داخلية وخارجية جر سوريا اليها على خلفية الأزمة التي تعصف بها. يشار هنا الى أن ومنذ انطلاق حركة الاحتجاجات في آذار الماضي قتل العشرات من المسيحيين الآمنين ومن غير أن يكونوا مشاركين في التظاهرات المناهضة للنظام.
وفي السياق ذاته، يذكر أن جهات مجهولة كانت قد وضعت،ليلة عيد الميلاد الماضي، اشارات (X) بالون الأحمر على أبواب منازل مسيحيين،جميعهم آشوريين في بلدة القحطانية (قبور البيض)القريبة من القامشلي.اعتبر أهالي البلدة هذه الاشارات بمثابة رسائل تهديد وانذار للمسيحيين،لترويعهم ودفعهم على الهجرة وترك وطنهم.. في هذه البلدة(قبور البيض) ذاتها قبل
سنوات(آذار 2007) قام مجهولون بنزع “صليب” من أحد أعمدة شوارع البلدة وألقي به في حديقة دار “خوري” البلدة مع رسالة انذار وتهديد مكتوبة بخط اليد.
بعد هذه السلسلة من الاعتداءات المتكررة على المسيحيين،بدأت الناس تتساءل: هذا يحصل للمسيحيين في ظل وجود سلطة قائمة، ماذا سيحصل لهم في حال سقط النظام وانهارت الدولة وعمت الفوضى الأمنية في البلاد؟؟ لا شك أنها أسئلة مشروعة نضعها في ذمة كل المعنيين والحريصين على السلم الأهلي والوحدة الوطنية..
ما حصل حتى الآن على هامش الأزمة السورية من عمليات استهداف المسيحيين السوريين والاعتداء على أملاكهم لن تكون الأخيرة وهي تطرح علامات استفهام كبيرة حول مصير ومستقبل الآشوريين والمسيحيين السوريين اذا ما حصل فراغ أمني وسياسي في البلاد ..وثمة من يرى بأن المسيحيين السوريين سيلاقون مصير المسيحيين العراقيين(خطف وقتل وتهجير)..
سليمان يوسف ….
January 30th, 2012, 6:44 pm
jad said:
Haytham Manna is an excellent politician, the idiots of the snc have no chance with him in any political debate, no wonder they are against him and attack him every day:
قناة فرنسا 24: الدكتور هيثم مناع
http://youtu.be/bQczQAu3ZkI?t=3m40s
then here later at 14:10 on ward
Jurgen,
Today another family were killed including 4 children by armed militia in Homs, apparently in retaliation.
Please ask Le Monde photographer to talk on their behalf too, and tell him that nothing is going to kill more of our people than a distorted media that fakes care about our lives while supporting terrorists.
BTW, How come you stopped linking any of the German coverage of the situation? To balanced to share 🙂
January 30th, 2012, 7:08 pm
bronco said:
#551 Ann
The opposition is making another big mistake because they now appear to be the ones who prefer violence to negotiations. Snubbing the Russians efforts to solve the crisis will only make the Russians more convinced that they should veto any resolution that does not force the opposition to a dialog with the regime without any preconditions.
I doubt Russia will ever bow neither in front of a Ghalioun or a Abdel Azim nor in front of Qatar and France.
By this refusal, the opposition is inviting Syrians to a indefinite civil war that may spill all over the region.
The bordering countries will soon realize that there are no exit to the crisis other than what the Russians have been asking for months and that the AL initiative was supposed to pursue: negotiations between the warring parties.
January 30th, 2012, 7:32 pm
zoo said:
Probably because Hamas is not welcomed in Jordan and Egypt and not convinced to exile itself in Libya, Tunis or Qatar, it has not taken the decision to leave Syria.
“Earlier on Saturday, the Palestinian movement Hamas said it does not plan to move its headquarters out of unrest-hit Syria.
“There is no change, and Hamas has not taken any decision to leave Syria, and we are still there,” spokesperson Fawzi Barhum told AFP.
He said the constant travels to Arab states of the movement’s Damascus-based chief Khaled Meshaal and other officials were aimed at consolidating Arab support for the Palestinian cause and inter-Palestinian reconciliation. ”
http://www.dp-news.com/en/detail.aspx?articleid=110080
January 30th, 2012, 7:58 pm
Ghufran said:
Bronco,
I agree in principle that dialogue under international,not Arab,mediation must be pursued,but I think the regime must pave the way for such dialogue by taking serious trust-building steps that give the moderates in the opposition the political cover they need to start the dialogue. The regime is not trustworthy ,and most opposition figures and parties are not willing to lose their face in a vague process that does not start on the right foot.the formula that works include cessation of violent activities from both sides and the release of political prisoners who did not commit violence. My fear is that armed groups on the ground from both sides,especially the anti regime,may not feel obligated to respond.
January 30th, 2012, 8:02 pm
Jad said:
Zoo
Thank you for the article exposing Monajed being the slave of a scum like Weiss.
About Hamas, Turkey is ofering them to move there.
January 30th, 2012, 8:04 pm
SYRIAN HAMSYTER said:
480. Despicable Syria no Kandahar said:
10080 virgins(or grapes according to Juergen friend)to be distributed over 140 Terrorists just checked into Hell today.
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Over the past three days, the paramilitary gangs of the bastard president murdered three families with their children in Homs and Lattakia. And this is your response. Worst, you get 13 jerks to vote thumbs up to you. Well here is my response to all of you band of sectarian criminals.
بيوتنا الجميلة
جدرانها البيضاء
تلونت بحمرة الدماء
وجثة البريء
أثارت القميء
وحسه الدنيء
بنسمة الحبق
***
أطفالنا الصغار تحرقون
وبسمة الربيع تقتلون
وقرد قندهار
الاجرب الحقير
يواصل الجعير
كنشوة البعير
ساعة الشبق
***
يا ثلة الكراهية
يا خسة النساء والرجال
اشرفكم تدوسه نعال
وناقل الشناعة
كذوب كل ساعة
باسته أذاعة
وحقده بعق
****
يا طغمة الانذال
التيس تعبدون
وتيسكم يلوذه الجنون
وحق من صمد
نطيح بالاسد
وننقذ البلد
لحظة الغسق
January 30th, 2012, 8:18 pm
Aldendeshe said:
“…..About Hamas, Turkey is ofering them to move there…..”
If they have any brain, they will dump Iran and Syria and ask Israel for assylum, and to open offices. I bet you they will get to the Israeli Kenesset in couple of years, half the voter base will be Jewish.
January 30th, 2012, 8:21 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
480. Despicable Syria no Kandahar said:
10080 virgins(or grapes according to Juergen friend)to be distributed over 140 Terrorists just checked into Hell today.
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Over the past three days, the paramilitary gangs of the bastard president murdered three families with their children in Homs and Lattakia. And this is your response. Worst, you get 13 jerks to vote thumbs up to your filthy inconsiderate crap. Well here is my response to all of you band of Assad worshipers.
بيوتنا الجميلة
جدرانها البيضاء
تلونت بحمرة الدماء
وجثة البريء
أثارت القميء
وحسه الدنيء
بنسمة الحبق
***
أطفالنا الصغار تحرقون
وبسمة الربيع تقتلون
وقرد قندهار
الاجرب الحقير
يواصل الجعير
كنشوة البعير
ساعة الشبق
***
يا ثلة الكراهية
يا خسة النساء والرجال
اشرفكم تدوسه نعال
وناقل الشناعة
كذوب كل ساعة
باسته أذاعة
وحقده بعق
****
يا طغمة الانذال
التيس تعبدون
وتيسكم يلوذه الجنون
وحق من صمد
نطيح بالاسد
وننقذ البلد
لحظة الغسق
January 30th, 2012, 8:21 pm
jna said:
Syria: A Family’s Struggle in Latakia
January 30th, 2012, 8:46 pm
jad said:
The biggest diplomatic debate since the war on Iraq, the same players, the same place and the same tricks, is it going to have the same results?
موسكو تتصدى اليوم لأكبر حشد دبلوماسي غربي منذ غزو العراق
حشد دبلوماسي لم تشهد له الأمم المتحدة مثيلا منذ عشية الحرب الأميركية على العراق، لمناقشة القضية السورية. وحول معركة تمرير مشروع قرار عربي ـ غربي لمعاقبة النظام السوري، تبلور تحالف من أوسع التحالفات الدبلوماسية، يمر عبر وزراء خارجية الولايات المتحدة وفرنسا وألمانيا وبريطانيا والجامعة العربية ورئيس اللجنة الوزارية العربية، ضد روسيا العقبة الأخيرة قبل استكمال عزل النظام السوري دوليا.
ورغم اتساع الحشد، قال معارض سوري بارز لـ«السفير» إن المفاوضات الحقيقية حول سوريا، والتي ستتركز على إقناع روسيا بوقف دعمها للنظام السوري، ستبدأ مباشرة بعد التصويت على مشروع القرار المتوقع خلال يومين. ووصف المعارض مرحلة التصويت بأنها تشكل خطوة في عملية تجميع الأوراق التي يقوم بها التحالف الغربي – العربي ضد نظام الرئيس بشار الأسد.
وأكدت موسكو مجدداً معارضتها لمشروع القرار الغربي ـ العربي في مجلس الامن، مستبعدة أي تفاوض حول هذا النص «غير المقبول»، مشيرة إلى أن الحكومة السورية وافقت على عقد اجتماعات مع المعارضة في موسكو.
وفي دمشق كشفت مصادر حزبية لمراسل «السفير» (زياد حيدر) أن القيادة القطرية لحزب البعث العربي الاشتراكي قررت تأجيل مؤتمرها الحادي عشر لمدة أسبوعين تقريبا وذلك «لأسباب فنية» بهدف «التحضير الجيد للمؤتمر» وفقا لتعبيرها. وقالت المصادر إن المؤتمر لن يعقد في 11 شباط المقبل كما كان متوقعا، بل سيتأخر بين 10 أيام وأسبوعين تقريبا، وذلك لأسباب مرتبطة بالمراسلات والاتصالات بين قيادة الحزب في دمشق وفروعه في المحافظات، نافية أن يكون للأوضاع الأمنية أية علاقة بهذا التأجيل. واعتبرت أن التأجيل يأتي بغرض «إحداث الأثر المطلوب في المؤتمر، ما تطلب تحضيراً أكثر دقة»، مشيرة إلى أن «المؤتمر سيكون نوعيا ونقطة تحول في عمل الحزب». وكانت القيادة القطرية قد أعلنت انتهاءها من وضع «دستور جديد» للبعث سيناقش خلال المؤتمر تحت عنوان «المنهاج الفكري والسياسي لحزب البعث».
وأعلن نائب الأمين العام للجامعة العربية احمد بن حلي ان قطر طلبت رسمياً استضافة الاجتماع المقبل لوزراء الخارجية العرب، وتأجيله 48 ساعة. وقال ان «قطر طلبت تأجيل اجتماع وزراء الخارجية العرب حول الاوضاع في سوريا الى 7 شباط بدلا من الخامس من الشهر نفسه واستضافته في الدوحة». وتترأس قطر الدورة الحالية لمجلس وزراء الخارجية العرب كما تترأس اللجنة الوزارية العربية المهنية بسوريا.
ويتجه الوزراء الغربيون إلى الأمم المتحدة، في ظل تفاؤل فرنسي بأن تكون جهود واتصالات الأسابيع الماضية قد أدت إلى تغيير خريطة التأييد داخل مجلس الأمن للقرار العربي ـ الغربي.
وقال مصدر فرنسي دبلوماسي لمراسل «السفير» في باريس محمد بلوط إنه بات أكيدا أن القرار قد وصل عتبة العشرة أصوات الضرورية في مجلس الأمن. علما أن غياب وزير الخارجية الروسي المعلن سيرغي لافروف لا يدع مجالا لأي تفسيرات أخرى، غير تمسك موسكو بموقفها، بالتصدي لأي قرار في المرحلة الحالية ضد النظام السوري لا يزال «يستهدف برأيها الحصول على أفضليات جيواستراتيجية في المنطقة».
وقال مصدر دبلوماسي فرنسي إن «النص الجديد لا يتضمن أي إشارة إلى التدخل العسكري الخارجي أو إلى إقامة منطقة آمنة أو حظر جوي، لكن الصمت الذي يلوذ به مجلس الأمن حيال ما يرتكبه النظام السوري من جرائم بحق شعبه لم يعد مقبولا». واعتبر أن «النص لن يكون بأي حال تحت الفصل السابع، ولكنه سيكون نصا سياسيا خالصا يدين العنف ويدعو إلى تطبيق المبادرة العربية في نقاطها الأساسية الأربع، من إطلاق المعتقلين إلى إعادة الجيش إلى ثكناته، فالسماح بالتظاهر السلمي والحوار مع المعارضة وإدخال الإعلاميين إلى سوريا».
وقال المصدر الدبلوماسي إن النص الروسي لا يزال غير مقبول، لأنه يساوي بين عنف المعارضة والنظام، علما أن تقرير المراقبين العرب لا يضع اختراقات الطرفين على المستوى نفسه، وإذا كانت المعارضة ترتكب بعض الاختراقات فإن المسؤولية عن ذلك تقع على عاتق النظام السوري. وقال إن إمكانية التفاوض لا تزال قائمة مع الروس، وسنعرض عليهم نصا وسطيا في الساعات المقبلة لمعرفة ما إذا كان موقفهم من النظام السوري والقرار بشأنه مبدئيا صادقا أو قابلا للتغيير. وفي هذا السبيل، قال المصدر الفرنسي إنه تم تجاهل أي بند بشأن حظر الأسلحة على سوريا، وروسيا شريكها الأول، لأنه خط أحمر بالنسبة لموسكو. لكن الدبلوماسيين سيبحثون هذه المسألة مع الروس في لقاءات ثنائية.
وفي إطار الحديث عن العملية العسكرية السورية التي أدت في الساعات الأخيرة إلى استعادة النظام السوري السيطرة على بعض البلدات والمدن في ريف دمشق، قال المصدر الفرنسي «إننا لا نملك ما يكفي من المعلومات لمعرفة قدرة المعارضة المسلحة على مقاومة هجمات النظام السوري، ولكننا نرى أنها ضعيفة بأي حال».
وقال معارض سوري إن اختبار معارك الريف في الأيام الماضية قد يؤيد تحليلا يقول بأن الأوضاع قد تتحرك بعد إضعاف الجناح العسكري في المعارضة، وهو رهان يقوم أيضا على قراءة أميركية لموقع التسلح والعسكرة في سوريا ونتائجه على مصير الأقليات فيها والتركيبة الطائفية العرقية المعقدة لها.
وكان مساعد وزيرة الخارجية الأميركية لشؤون الشرق الأوسط جيفري فيلتمان قد التقى مسؤولين روساً الأسبوع الماضي، للتفاوض معهم حول الخيار اليمني حلا لسوريا. وقال مصدر عربي إن موسكو عبرت عن رفضها لأي عملية انتقالية تفرض فرضاً على الرئيس بشار الأسد، بما فيها تسمية فاروق الشرع رئيسا مؤقتا تنقل إليه صلاحيات الرئيس، وإنها لا تزال تؤيد مرحلة انتقالية يلعب فيها الأسد دورا أساسيا ويكون له الحق في نهايتها بالمشاركة بالعملية الانتخابية. وأضاف المصدر أن الشرع لم يستطع مقابلة أحد عند وصوله قبل شهر إلى مطار موسكو، الذي قد يكون غادره على الفور بعد تصريحات أدلى بها مسؤول روسي نصح «فيها الشرع بأنه لن يسمع كلاما معسولا خلال زيارته».
ونقل مصدر عربي عن اجتماع لفيلتمان مع بعض الخبراء الروس في موسكو قبل أسبوع، عكس فيه انطباعا يؤيد هذا المنحى في تفسير التردد الأميركي في دعم تسلح المعارضة رغم زيارة قام بها أحد مسؤولي البنتاغون لقيادة «الجيش السوري الحر» في تركيا، لم تلبث أن وصفت بالاستطلاعية.
وبحسب المصدر فإن المسؤول الأميركي عن ملفات الشرق الأوسط في الخارجية الأميركية عبر عن مخاوف مما يمكن أن يؤول إليه من نتائج على مستقبل الأقليات في سوريا، انتصار عسكري «للجيش الحر» ونزعة العسكرة يلعب فيها الإسلاميون دورا أكبر من الأطراف الأخرى المدنية. وتوقع أن تكون العلاقات مع الأقليات في سوريا عدوانية وتناحرية. وكانت واشنطن قد حثت «المجلس الوطني» منذ لقائه مع وزيرة الخارجية هيلاري كلينتون على طمأنة الأقليات من مسيحيين وعلويين خاصة على مستقبلهم في سوريا. وتوقع المسؤول الأميركي أن يؤدي تنامي النزعة العسكرية إلى ارتفاع تأثير الإسلاميين، ونسيان كلمة الديموقراطية. وقال إننا لن نضحي بالأقليات في سوريا، وان التسلح سيكون له دون شك هوية دينية.
ونقل المصدر العربي عن فيلتمان قوله إننا لا نرى بوضوح ما يحدث بسبب ضبابية الأوضاع، ونحن نمارس سياسة حذرة، لأننا لا نعرف ما سيحدث في سوريا بعد سقوط النظام. وإذا كان الربيع العربي قد أتى بالإسلاميين إلى السلطة في تونس ومصر وليبيا، إلا أن البديل الإسلامي السوري إن لم يكن مدمراً فهو على الأقل ليس جاهزاً حتى الآن.
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موسكو تكرر معارضتها
وكررت موسكو معارضتها لمشروع القرار الجديد حول سوريا، مستبعدة أي تفاوض حول هذا النص «غير المقبول». وقال نائب وزير الخارجية الروسي غينادي غاتيلوف، تعليقا على المعلومات التي تناقلتها بعض وسائل الإعلام الغربية حول احتمال مراعاة المطالب الروسية بشأن تعديل المشروع في حال التأكد من ان روسيا ستمتنع عن التصويت، انه «ليس من ممارساتنا السياسية المساومة حول القضايا المبدئية». وأضاف «نحن لا نساوم، بل نسعى الى مراعاة مواقفنا ورؤيتنا التي تبلورت على أساس معرفتنا للحقائق الإقليمية والخبرة التاريخية. وتدل هذه الخبرة على ان محاولات تصدير أساليب التسوية وفرض الرؤية المعينة على أطراف النزاع تؤدي الى زعزعة الاستقرار وإراقة الدماء. ويؤيد موقفنا هذا الكثير من أعضاء مجلس الأمن».
وأضاف «نحن نصر على أن يعكس أي قرار لمجلس الامن الدولي بشأن سوريا مواقفنا الاساسية، وهي نبذ العنف مهما كان مصدره، ودعوة السلطات والمعارضة الى الدخول في الحوار، وعدم جواز التدخل الخارجي باستخدام القوة في الشؤون الداخلية لسوريا وعدم فرض العقوبات أو التهديد بها».
وأشار الى ان موقف روسيا في ما يخص استبعاد التدخل الخارجي «يتعدى الاطار السوري. فلا يمكننا ان نوافق على ان يصبح السيناريو الليبي أساسا لحل النزاعات الداخلية في الدول، علما بأن هذا السيناريو يعيد الى الاذهان انتهاكات كثيرة للتفويض الذي منح بموجب قرارات مجلس الامن».
وأشار غاتيلوف الى ان «روسيا والصين كانتا قد صوتتا في تشرين الاول الماضي ضد مشروع القرار الذي عرضه الزملاء الغربيون على مجلس الامن، والذي تضمن آلية غير مقبولة للتسوية»، مضيفا ان «المشروع الغربي الحالي ليس بعيدا عن السابق، وبالطبع لا يمكننا ان نؤيده». ووصف مشروع القرار بأنه «غير متزن ويترك النافذة مفتوحة للتدخل في الشؤون السورية».
وقال غاتيلوف «نحن نسعى الى نشر تقرير بعثة مراقبي جامعة الدول العربية في مجلس الامن الدولي كوثيقة رسمية وترجمته الى كل لغات الامم المتحدة. ويدور الحديث عن الوثيقة الاساسية التي تتضمن تقدير الوضع في سوريا على أرض الواقع. ويجب ان يحصل المجلس على المعلومات مباشرة وأن يعتمد على مصادر موضوعية».
وأصدرت وزارة الخارجية الروسية بيانا قالت فيه إن «السلطات السورية أبدت استعدادها لتلبية دعوة موسكو لإجراء محادثات مع المعارضة السورية في موسكو، وانها تنتظر ردا إيجابيا من المعارضة السورية أيضا». وأضافت «نعتقد أن إجراء مثل هذه الاتصالات في موسكو ضروري، لوقف فوري لأي عنف في سوريا ومنع إحداث شرخ دموي ومواجهة في المجتمع، ولإنجاح الإصلاحات الديموقراطية العميقة في البلاد وفق تمنيات السوريين كافة».
وردا على إعلان موسكو، قال رئيس المجلس الوطني السوري برهان غليون إن «تنحي الاسد شرط لبدء أي مفاوضات للانتقال الى حكومة ديموقراطية». كما رفض المنسق العام لهيئة التنسيق الوطنية لقوى التغيير الديموقراطي في سوريا حسن عبد العظيم إجراء أي حوار في ظل استمرار «العنف».
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http://www.assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionId=2064&articleId=2896&ChannelId=49080
January 30th, 2012, 8:50 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Russia does not understand the Arab spring, ,no,but they still think in the old fashon,dictatorship only,communism is failing,and will disappear from this earth, The Arab revolution will spread to Russia,it is a very important period in the history of the world,
US is surprised by the Arab spring , too, US was not ready and they are watching Egypt,they think Egypt is an example, it is not, The Syrian revolution is completely different from Tunis and Egypt,and Libya
Iran stands to loose most from this revolution, they thought they can spread Shia sect religion all over the middle East, now they realize they can not any more.
The Arab kings and princes are surprised too,http://www.aawsat.com//leader.asp?section=3&article=661444&issueno=12117
January 30th, 2012, 8:55 pm
jad said:
Personally I think Russia will bow for the pressure and will accept a minor changes to abstain, China is already out and will vote for the resolution, all this theatrical media crap are becoming too boring:
سوريا في مجلس الأمن: لا تصويت
وزراء الخارجية يتوافدون إلى نيويورك… وموسكو ملتزمة الرفض… والمعارضة ترفض عرضاً روسياً لاستضافة محادثات مع الحكومة
لا تصويت اليوم في جلسة «استعراضية» سيشهدها مجلس الأمن بشأن سوريا بحضور وزراء خارجية الدول الغربية والأمين العام للجامعة العربية، في حين أعلنت موسكو أن الحكومة السورية موافقة على إجراء محادثات غير رسمية مع المعارضة التي رفضت من جانبها هذا العرض
يسعى وزراء خارجية غربيون اليوم في الأمم المتحدة إلى «إثبات وحدة المجتمع الدولي» حيال سوريا، لكن لا يتوقع إجراء تصويت على مسوّدة قرار يدعمها الأوروبيون والدول العربية، بعدما جددت روسيا رفضها التام لمشروع القرار.
وأُعلن رسمياً مشاركة وزيري الخارجية الفرنسي ألان جوبيه والبريطاني وليام هيغ. وأفاد دبلوماسيون أن نظيرتهما الأميركية هيلاري كلينتون ستحضر الجلسة كذلك، إلى جانب نظيريها الألماني والبرتغالي. لكن روسيا والصين، اللتين ترفضان منذ أشهر، عبر حق النقض، أي مشروع قرار يستدرج سيناريو التدخل العسكري في سوريا، سيمثّلهما سفيراهما في الجلسة.
وفي وقت روّجت فيه الدبلوماسية الفرنسية أن «التوازنات تطورت داخل مجلس الأمن»، مضيفة أن «عشر دول على الأقل» من أصل الدول الأعضاء الخمس عشرة قد تؤيّد مشروع قرار قدمه المغرب باسم الجامعة العربية، تراجع مساءً الحديث عن تصويت فوري في جلسة اليوم، حيث أكد دبلوماسي غربي أن «المفاوضات ستتواصل لاحقاً»، بهدف التوصل إلى اتفاق في المجلس «في أسرع وقت ممكن».
وأقرّ جوبيه، في لقاء صحافي، بأن «ظروف تبنّي قرار غير متوافرة بعد، لأن روسيا تواصل المقاومة». وقال متحدث باسم الخارجية البريطانية إن «روسيا لا يسعها الاستمرار بعرقلة الأمم المتحدة». ويستمع أعضاء المجلس الـ15 إلى عرض من الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي لمبادرة الجامعة لحل الأزمة السورية.
ويدعو مشروع القرار إلى دعم دولي لخطة الخروج من الأزمة، التي أعلنتها الجامعة العربية في قرارها رقم 7444 في اجتماع وزراء الخارجية العرب الذي عقد في القاهرة في 22 كانون الثاني الحالي، وتنص على وقف أعمال العنف وتفويض رئيس الجمهورية نائبه الأول صلاحيات كاملة للقيام بالتعاون التام مع حكومة وحدة وطنية لتمكينها من أداء واجبها في مرحلة انتقالية.
في المقابل، أكدت روسيا مجدداً أمس معارضتها لمشروع القرار الجديد في الأمم المتحدة بشأن سوريا، الذي اقترحه الأوروبيون والدول العربية، مستبعدة أي تفاوض بشأن هذا النص «غير المقبول». وقال نائب وزير الخارجية الروسي غينادي غاتيلوف لوكالة انترفاكس إن «روسيا والصين صوّتتا ضد مشروع القرار الذي اقترحه زملاؤنا الغربيون في تشرين الأول، والذي كان يتضمن تصوراً غير مقبول لتسوية. والمشروع الغربي الحالي ليس بعيداً عن صيغة تشرين الأول، ولا يمكننا بالتأكيد دعمه». وتابع «تضم المسوّدة طلباً للدول الأعضاء كافة بوقف تزويد سوريا بالأسلحة». وتدارك «لكنه لا يرسم خطاً واضحاً بين تهريب الأسلحة الذي يقوم به عدد من الدول لدعم القوى المتطرفة في سوريا والعلاقات المشروعة العسكرية التقنية مع هذا البلد». وأضاف أن «هذا النص غير متوازن (…) ويترك أولاً الباب مفتوحاً أمام تدخل في الشؤون السورية».
وتابع نائب وزير الخارجية الروسي «هذا ليس جزءاً من ممارستنا السياسية للتفاوض بشأن المسائل المبدئية»، معلّقاً بذلك على معلومات لوسائل إعلام غربية مفادها أن روسيا قد تمتنع أثناء التصويت في الأمم المتحدة إذا أُخذت مطالبها بتعديل مشروع القرار هذا في الاعتبار. ونقلت وكالة انترفاكس للأنباء عن غاتيلوف قوله «من المنطقي، نظراً إلى الطبيعة المركبة لهذه القضية، أن يتمكن أعضاء مجلس الأمن من دراسة توصيات بعثة المراقبين العرب وما خلصت إليه بالتفصيل». ومضى يقول «بعد ذلك فقط سيكون من الممكن إجراء مناقشات ملموسة لهذه المسألة في مجلس الأمن».
وعلى خط مواز، سعت روسيا إلى توجيه رسالة مفادها أنها ملتزمة بالمبادرة العربية الجديدة التي دعت الحكومة السورية وكافة أطياف المعارضة السورية إلى الحوار، حيث أعلنت وزارة الخارجية الروسية، في بيان، أن السلطات السورية موافقة على بدء محادثات غير رسمية مع المعارضة في روسيا. إلا أن رئيس المجلس الوطني السوري، برهان غليون، سارع إلى رفض أي «مفاوضات قبل رحيل» الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد. وقال «تنحّي الأسد شرط لبدء أي مفاوضات للانتقال إلى حكومة ديموقراطية».
وقالت وزارة الخارجية الروسية، في البيان الذي نشر على موقعها على الإنترنت، «تلقّينا رداً إيجابياً من السلطات السورية على دعوتنا (لعقد محادثات في موسكو)». وأضاف البيان « نأمل … أن توافق المعارضة السورية على ذلك في الأيام القليلة المقبلة، واضعة مصلحة الشعب السوري فوق كل الاهتمامات الأخرى».
ورأت مصادر دبلوماسية فرنسية أن التطورات الأخيرة في سوريا، وخصوصاً تحرك الجامعة العربية، أدت إلى «تطور» الموقف من سوريا في مجلس الأمن الدولي. وقالت مصادر دبلوماسية إن «الأعضاء الجدد غير الدائمي العضوية في مجلس الأمن أكثر اقتناعاً بضرورة إصدار قرار». والدول الخمس الجديدة التي بدأت عضويتها في مطلع كانون الثاني هي المغرب وتوغو وغواتيمالا وباكستان وآذربيجان.
ومن بغداد، أعلن نائب الأمين العام للجامعة العربية أحمد بن حلي أن قطر طلبت رسمياً «تأجيل اجتماع وزراء الخارجية العرب بشأن الأوضاع في سوريا إلى السابع من شباط بدلاً من الخامس من الشهر نفسه، واستضافته في الدوحة». وكان بن حلي قد قال الأحد إنه تقرر عقد اجتماع لوزراء الخارجية العرب في 5 شباط في القاهرة لبحث استمرار عمل بعثة المراقبين العرب في سوريا أو سحبها. وأوقف الأمين العام للجامعة العربية نبيل العربي، الخميس الماضي، عمل البعثة بسبب تصاعد وتيرة العنف. بدوره، اتهم رئيس بعثة المراقبين العرب في سوريا، الفريق أول محمد الدابي، المعارضة السورية بعدم التعاون مع البعثة، لأنها تريد الذهاب إلى مجلس الأمن.
(الأخبار، رويترز، أ ف ب، يو بي آي)
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/34045
January 30th, 2012, 9:02 pm
Ghufran said:
Jad
The link to manna’ interview on france24 is excellent,thank you
As a supporter of Manna’s line of thinking,I fully understand why the guy is being attacked,he is moderate,secular and pragmatic at a time when we are asked to choose between two losers,the militants in the opposition and their enemies-friends in the regime.
It is tragic to see a man like Haytham being forced to practice his legitimate political role as a patriot from France while people like Bashar was appointed president since 2000.
Expect more attacks on Manna’ including physical ones,god forbid,because he represents a group of Syrians who love Syria more than they hate the regime (with permission from my good friend who introduced this line to SC).
January 30th, 2012, 9:04 pm
Revlon said:
547. IRRITATED
#537. Juergen
“Le Monde photographer captured photos of the Nasihine massacre in Homs on 26 of January 2012″”
((Another FSA blunder or personal vendetta?))
FSA blunder!
Killing children by knives?!
Personal vendetta?
Yep!
It was indeed a personal vendetta!
It was Code ordered by B Assad as a revenge against the “Conspirator” elder members of their families
It was also a sectarian vendetta.
It was executed by grown up, muscular 3alawi men against helpless childrern and women of the other sect.
((I thought foreign journalists were severely restricted then who allowed this photographer to take these photos?))
Al Mu3allem, Al-Dabi, and Assad-Makhlouf media all stated that all free media who applied for entry to Syrian were allowed in, except for the Gulf ones!
January 30th, 2012, 9:06 pm
jad said:
Zoo, I guess Monajed and Zibaleh at their master Weiss orders will invite B.H.levy to celebrate their victory over Syria at Sala7 Aldeen mausoleum next to the Great Ommayad Mosque!!!!
تريدون ثورة؟؟ تفضلوا…
جان عزيز
لا يكفي بيان «المجلس الوطني السوري» عن تخيّل العلاقات المستقبلية بين بيروت ودمشق في مرحلة «عهد الثورة العتيد»، لنزع الصاعق السوري من برميل البارود اللبناني. لا، بل في ظل التطورات المتسارعة، داخلياً وبينياً، يبدو البيان المذكور كأنه جزء من فتيل انفجارنا الآتي، أو كأن لا جدوى منه ولا وجود، في أحسن الأحوال.
فالبيان المصوغ بلغة «آذارية» واضحة ــــ والبعض يقول بقلم «مستقبلي» معروف، على طريقة «الدكتيلو» الثوري، بدل الأمني ــــ تحول فوراً حلقة ضمن سلسلة التداعيات اللبنانية الخطيرة للأزمة السورية. ذلك أنه سرعان ما اصطف وصنّف، كمضمون وكأصوات مرحبة به ومؤيدة له، في خانة «الاحتفالية الانتصارية المبكرة»، من ضمن ردود الفعل المعروفة لبنانياً حيال ما يجري في سوريا. وهو رد فعل يسعّر أزمتنا المشتركة ويعمّقها، كما كل الردود الأخرى.
أصلاً، حتى لو سلّمنا جدلاً بأمرين افتراضيين: أولاً أن أصحاب هذا البيان صادقون في كلامهم، وثانياً أن الوضع في سوريا سيتغير، تبقى معطيات الواقع السوري والمعطيات المأخوذة بالقياس من التجارب «الثورية» الأخرى: فهل من يصدّق أن دمشق ما بعد الثورة، ستكون مختلفة عن تونس أو القاهرة أو طرابلس الغرب؟ هل من يصدق أن نزلاء باريس سيكونون هم فعلاً الحكام الجدد؟ هل من يفكر لحظة في أن هذه الأسماء الأكاديمية الليبرالية اللمّاعة البرّاقة (رغم الماضي الأمني الاستخباري لبعضها ولو تحت غطاء الترجمة الفورية)، لن تلحق بعشرات أسماء حطب الثورات الأخرى الآكلة لأبنائها البكر؟ هل من يشك في أن الحكم السوري الثوري، في حال حصوله، لن يكون لميشيل كيلو وفايز ساره وحسن عبد العظيم وزملائهم من مثقفي سوريا الإنسانيين الديموقراطيين، الذين أخطأ النظام طويلاً بحق سوريا، حين أخطئ بحقهم، بل سيكون حكم الثورة لشيء ما، أقرب ما يكون إلى ما بين العرعور والشقفة، تماماً كما بلحاج طرابلس وما على يمين غنوشي تونس وبكار القاهرة؟؟؟
هكذا، ليس مطلوباً من ثوار باريس نداءات إلى اللبنانيين. إلا إذا كان الهدف من كتابتها دعماً بلدياً لتظاهرة حريرية مقبلة. بل المطلوب من أهل «الثورة السورية» أن يتوجهوا الى السوريين أولاً، وربما إليهم وحدهم، ليسمع عبرهم كل بشر المنطقة المحيطة، فيقولوا لأبناء وطنهم ماذا سيفعلون، إذا حكموا، بمسائل كالآتية:
أولاً، هل سينزعون عن الدولة، كإطار وضعي ناظم للعلاقة بين البشر، أي هوية دينية، لتصير فعلاً دولة؟
ثانياً، هل سيرفضون أن يكون لرئيس الدولة السورية دين محدد، تماماً كما اضطر حافظ الأسد إلى أن يضمِّن دستوره لعام 1973، بضغط من شارع الذين باتوا اليوم حلفاء الثوار؟
ثالثاً، هل سيرفضون أن يكون التشريع القانوني السوري مستمداً من أي غيبيات، بل من مرجعيات فقهية إنسانية حقوقية وضعية شاملة؟
رابعاً، كيف سيقنعون المنتصرين المفترضين من أنصارهم الحاليين، بأن نداءات التعبئة «الجزيرية» و«العربية» التي تغسل عقولهم اليوم، تحت رايات الدين ونداءات الجهاد والصراخ بأسماء الرسل والرموز الدينية، لن يكون لها أي تأثير على نظامهم المدني العلماني غداً؟
خامساً، كيف سينزعون من ذاكرة قسم من أهل سوريا تاريخ «الخازوق»، والاضطهاد والإقصاء والتهميش والذمية… فيما صارت مجلة «لو فيغارو» الصادرة بين حنايا ثورتهم، تترجم شعارات ثوارهم حول مصير «العلوي والمسيحي والمرأة»، بين التابوت وبيروت و«التخوت»…هذا إذا لم يتبدل توزيع المصائر لاحقاً!
سادساً وأخيراً، هل سيدعون برنار هنري ليفي أم إيلي فيزل لزيارة قبر صلاح الدين احتفالاً بالثورة إذا انتصرت، تماماً كما فعل الجنرال غورو يوم دخل دمشق في 21 حزيران 1920، إذ توجه الى القبر ووقف أمامه قائلاً لرميمه: «ها قد عدنا يا صلاح الدين». أو كما فعل زميله الجنرال اللنبي، يوم دخل القدس في 9 كانون الأول عام 1917، موجهاً عبر الأثير المقدسي رسالته المماثلة إلى القبر نفسه: «الآن انتهت الحروب الصليبية».
أعطوا إجابات عن هذه الإشكاليات، أو عن واحدة منها فقط، بما يضمن تعايش الواقع السوري مع هذا العصر، ومع ناسه وشعبه، ولكم كل الحكم والدعم، من سوريا ولبنان وأكثر. فبإشكالية واحدة من تلك، لا تضمنون الحل لأزمة سوريا وحدها، ولا لأزمة الدوامة التاريخية بين دمشق وبيروت وحسب، بل الأهم أنكم تقدمون الحل لأزمات بالعشرات، في العراق الدامي، والبحرين الحمراوين، والحجاز ونجد وتوابعهما من أملاك عائلية، ولما بين محيط وخليج ولما بعدهما، من جبهة «مورو» الفيليبين إلى بلقان البوسنة وكوسوفو، ومن بنغلادش وجارتيها إلى كل القوقاز وآسيا الوسطى، وصولاً الى إقليم تشينغيانغ الصيني، وانتهاءً بحيث تقيمون، في قلب أوروبا وعلى أعتاب «أسوار فيينا».
حلوا واحدة من هذه، أما كل الباقي فتفصيل.
http://al-akhbar.com/node/34065
January 30th, 2012, 9:08 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Can someone help with this:
What is the best social media website that allow for placing a lot of URL links on the page? FACEBOOK and Twitter banned me.
January 30th, 2012, 9:15 pm
Norman said:
Jad, Ghufran,
At a time of war only extremists survive , moderate like Manna have no chance, Sorry, He will be lucky not to be killed by the opposition, he is a liabelity to them and shows their true faces,
January 30th, 2012, 9:23 pm
Jad said:
Norman,
Unfortunately, you are correct, in this world extremists rules while moderate disappear or struggle to prove their views if they stay alive.
January 30th, 2012, 9:42 pm
Tara said:
Gül predicts fast end for Syrian president
DENİZ ZEYREK
Turkish President Abdullah Gül signals the end game for his Syrian counterpart, predicting that Bashar al-Assad’s fall is inevitable and it should not be prolonged
The downfall of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s government is inevitable and should no longer be delayed, Turkish President Abdullah Gül told reporters yesterday en route to Abu Dhabi.
“Some think we want a war in Syria. But we have no hidden agenda. We’ve done all without expecting anything in return. We are sorry, but unfortunately Syria is now in the midst of an inevitable process,” he said. “What’s important is that this process doesn’t linger on for long. The end is clear. All that matters [now] is the process, and how painful it will be.”
Turkey has made every effort to realize a transformation led by al-Assad, Gül said. “We told [al-Assad] that one day he will be sorry and that it will be [too little], too late.”
Reflecting on the positive developments in Tunisia and Egypt despite some setbacks, Gül noted the absence of independent institutions under dictatorial regimes.
“The dictatorships not only oppressed people, the development of independent institutions and traditions was also hindered,” the president said. “Thus [their job] is not easy. Just think of the problems that Turkey, as the most democratic, most secular and most developed country in the Islamic world, is going through.”
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On the Arab Spring, Gül said regional leaders faced a force in the road. “Either we will lead, reforming at home and putting our houses in order through reforms, or foreign intervention will become inevitable. And when that intervention comes, it will be a culture, a country that [foreigners] are unfamiliar with.”
Any such intervention would be like a bull entering the china shop, the president said in reference to Iraq. “Thus, we should lead the reforms in our country, and we should do this fast.”
Iran ‘a regional reality’
Gül also commented on concerns the region was coming under the influence of Iran. “Of course, the region has its realities. But there could be ignorant and irresponsible ones who strive to turn these realities into an element of conflict. Thus, one should act with utmost responsibility,” Gül said. “And that’s what Turkey has been doing.”
Iran has natural links with the region, and one should see all these in a constructive fashion, he said.
…Read more
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/gul-predicts-fast-end-for-syrian-president.aspx?pageID=238&nID=12664&NewsCatID=338
January 30th, 2012, 9:46 pm
ann said:
Syria says will foil Western efforts to sow chaos – 3 hrs ago
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-says-foil-western-efforts-sow-chaos-224430117.html
BEIRUT – Syria dismissed on Monday U.S. and Western criticism of Damascus and said it would defeat what it called foreign attempts to spread chaos, hours after the White House said President Bashar al-Assad had lost control and would inevitably fall from power.
“We are not surprised at the lack of wisdom or rationality of these statements and regret that they are still issued by countries that are used to making the Middle East an arena for their follies and failures,” the state news agency quoted a Foreign Ministry source as saying late on Monday.
“Syria, which is defending itself today against terrorism and will continue to do so, will be the exception which … will foil the policies of chaos adopted by these countries,” it said.
January 30th, 2012, 9:47 pm
jna said:
Dear Hillary, I know that just following the mainstream press coverage one would think that “violent and brutal attacks” were only perpetrated by the Syrian regime. But I am sure that, if the State Department is anywhere near up to speed, you already have information to the contrary. For the sake of the country, Syrians, and world credibility wouldn’t it be better to abandon the one sided rhetoric for an honest assessment of what’s going on in Syria?
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/hillary-clinton-goes-un-syria-crisis-deepens-213612576.html
January 30th, 2012, 9:52 pm
Revlon said:
532. IRRITATED:
((#522 Mawal95
The fact is that this regime is ‘mysteriously’ cohesive and it needs much more studies than the oversimplification of sunnis vs alawites to understand it.))
Here is a study cum experiment, for irritated the bright!
Have a fistful of gravel, and hold it tight.
Have your mate knock you on the head, with all his might.
Wake up, and check if the gravel still held tight!
January 30th, 2012, 10:01 pm
zoo said:
#562 jad
“About Hamas, Turkey is ofering them to move there.”
I doubt they’ll move to a non-arab country.
January 30th, 2012, 10:02 pm
Volk said:
Russia opposes ‘Libyan scenario’ in Syria and will block resolution
Russia will not bargain with the West over the fresh draft resolution on Syria, says Russia’s deputy foreign minister. The draft in its current form ignores the Russian position and therefore, has no chance of being accepted, Gennady Gatilov said.
“It is not part of our political practice to trade our principles,” Gatilov said on Monday as cited by Interfax. “We don’t bargain, but seek consideration for our positions and our vision, which are based on our knowledge of regional realities and our historical experience.”
“Russia can only support the resolution if it fixes Russia’s principled approaches, which I have mentioned and which are shared by many other countries,” he added.
On Tuesday, the UNSC will hear the Arab League’s report on the findings of its recent mission to monitor the ruling regime’s response to the popular uprising in Syria. France and the UK are pushing for the adoption of a new resolution drafted by Morocco. The resolution would back the Arab League’s plan for the transition of power in Syria from President Assad to a unity government.
Russia resists a swift vote on this, saying it wants to study the Arab League’s report in detail before taking any step. Moscow has vetoed a previous UN resolution on Syria, citing its ambiguous language that could provide for a foreign intervention, and contemplates banning the new one.
The UK urges Russia to stop blocking the UN move.
http://rt.com/news/russia-assad-talks-opposition-083/
January 30th, 2012, 10:09 pm
bronco said:
#561. Ghufran
The opposition cannot hope a better guarantee of seriousness than the Russians. The Syrian government is totally under its dependence and its guidance and pressure. Syria will do anything to keep Russia’s support.
My worry is that it has become a fierce competition between Qatar-EU and Russia-China. The Russians having been cheated by the Libyan UN resolution will not bow and want their share of the ME. The EU is in a deep economical crisis and needs badly the money of the GCC, so they are just rallying on its side. Qatar and KSA have their own ruthless megalomaniac agenda of becoming the major leaders in the new sunni islamic dominated middle east.
Caught in their world of revenge and idealism, the opposition is unable to see that they are just been used for a purpose much beyond them.
January 30th, 2012, 10:17 pm
Hans said:
I am interested to know what does Josh or Dr. Landis, Advise the state department about the situation in Syria? or in specific, is he advising them with the Zionist lobby in mind, or he is being honest and explaining that the regime is not a democratic one but none of the region is a democratic and to shove democracy in the mouth of this people it is a very difficult to digest raw concept.
It is clear that there is an outside conspiracy against Syria ( Al Assad said that months ago) and it proven to be true ( said that it doesn’t mean that the people didn’t start with genuine demands).
The USA is playing the dirtiest game since Vietnam war, it is not enough the destruction of Iraq and the killing of hundreds of thousands of people all along Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria but also bringing the radicals who their mission is the destruction of the progressed daily life the region have been enjoying.
the GCC are the people who are paying for taking Syria back into the stone age.
Democracy is an empty word when the super powers are playing a chess game, it is like Syrians and Syria are the losers regardless of any moves the big boys are taking.
shame on the Hillary, Obama for listening to the Zionists Wolfowitz and others..
January 30th, 2012, 10:17 pm
ss said:
This is a very graphic video and it shows the killing of an Alawite family on the hands of the Muslim brotherhood, Qaeda terrorists groups.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QydqGxS9WY
How could the west even think of supporting such murderers.
It is the responsibility of the international community to come together and fight radical islam. It is the root of evil. Let us all fight terrorist islamists, radicals. What did these people in the clip do, there is a baby who was stabbed several times till death. This is bruital.
January 30th, 2012, 10:20 pm
Ghassan Karam said:
Bashar Is Responsible For Syrian Bloodshed
It is always lamentable when killings become a common everyday occurrence and in particular when many of the victims are innocent civilians, children women, and old people. It is especially chilling when death and destruction becomes a daily affair by the forces that were meant to protect the population against foreign enemies and to guard their rights and privileges. It is especially disheartening when “evil” is rationalized as essential since that transforms a shameful and ignominious act into a trite one. That is the danger of allowing murder, and oppression to metamorphose into a sterilized, common and hackneyed accounting of those killed every day in cold blood by a ruthless dictatorship whose sole interest is to maintain its ability to oppress, exploit and abuse.
Taking away life of civilians of all ages, including children, by their own government just because they dared protest against tyranny is always wrong. Obviously, deontological philosophy will never permit such egregious acts since it is based on a profound understanding of our moral and ethical obligations to each other. But neither would consequentialism, its opposite, approve of murderous acts that would not prevent greater numbers of people to be killed in the future.
The irony of the daily horrendous events of loss of life in Syria is that the tragic loss of life is being used by those that are essentially responsible for it as an excuse and a rationale for them to continue their senseless spilling of innocent blood by ordering heavy artillery and tanks to level neighbourhoods that dared demonstrate for democracy and personal rights. It is paradoxical when the oppressors who had over forty years to adopt some reforms and let the sunshine into the dark and rotten dungeons that they have built start portraying themselves as reformers and as democrats. The foreign minister of this rotten regime, Walid Al Moualem, even declared that the Syrian Ba’ath gang is ready to teach the world a lesson in democracy. He has no shame, neither do his fellow conspirators. I wonder whether Mr. Al Moualem even knows what is the meaning of democracy, citizenship, human rights, diversity, personal responsibility… Obviously his Don; Bashar Assad does not, as it was made amply clear in his interview with Danish TV where he said that he implied that he is a dictator who knows best what is good for the Syrian people, their personal preferences be damned. It was also laughable when he told ABC TV , just a few months ago, that he was not in control of what goes on in Syria and so he must not be held accountable for the approximately 6000 lost lives, tens of thousands of prisoners, many city quarters across Syria demolished or an economy that is about to implode.
It is not uncommon for individuals to have a distorted vision of reality but when the preservation of such a vision results in the deaths of thousands and the destruction of dreams then that paranoia and delusion cross a redline. The acts of the last year have made it amply clear that those in control of the Syrian government are driven purely by personal ambition to stay in power and to exercise their tyranny and oppression. Syria as a country that belongs to 22 million people is an alien idea to them since the country is a fiefdom for the Assads and their clan, a mentality based in a pure vision of personality cult worship and a party that is all knowing.
Is there a place for such tyranny and repression or do the citizens have the right and the moral obligation to put an end to a half a century of exploitation and abuse? It has been long in coming but finally the Syrian brothers have awoken from their slumber and have taken a stand for what is right and just. It is the Ba’ath and Bashar that have tried to exploit the situation over the past year in order to distract the revolutionaries from demanding what is rightfully theirs; the ability to decide their own destiny. Bashar could have avoided all this bloodshed had he declared his intension to hold free elections and to introduce meaningful reforms over a year ago. He chose not to do so only because he did not believe that the Syrian masses deserve to be treated with dignity. Let him reap what he has sown.
January 30th, 2012, 10:26 pm
ss said:
I do not think the United Nations decision would matter at all. I do not see any possibility for foriegn intervention even if Russia did not use teh vito. Nothing will happen. The price of the war is very risky and everyone by now is saying that. The only people interested in a forien invasion are 1: the external opposition; 2. Tha gulf states headed by Qatar. Even Israel the enemy of Syria is not calling for war. They do want Assad to be surrounded in muddy intenal conflicts but I do not think they want more than that.
January 30th, 2012, 10:28 pm
bronco said:
568. jad said:
“Personally I think Russia will bow for the pressure”
Jad, if Russia abstain to put a veto to a resolution asking Bashar al Assad to step downn, it will be a very humiliating defeat for Russia and it may loose its chance to regain its place in the Arab world. This will also have unpredictable consequences for Syria.
If Bashar offers to resign (or is forced to resign), it will be perceived by the opposition as the sign that the regime is finished and they will refuse to enter in any dialog with the remainder of the regime. They would want to take over the country and that will create a chaos in the country and even more violence, it will be a full scale civil war, because 50% of the Syrians ( and the army)_will not accept so easily the diktat of a foreign opposition like the SNC or the AL.
Therefore, if the opposition refuses a dialog under the Russian auspices, the regime has no choice than to continue to use military means to regain its sovereignity on the country hoping to prevent a void and the looming civil war.
It has nothing to loose anymore and will fight until the end.
Russia is certainly aware of that and it is a dilemma.
January 30th, 2012, 10:48 pm
Tara said:
15 members of the UNSC are going to say to the Syrian people tomorrow “We stand by you”.
I like the expression. Even if mount to nothing…I still like it.
Nations on the UN Security Council braced for a showdown over Syria, with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leading a Western charge to press Russia to back action to stop the violence.
Amid dozens of new deaths in Syria and opposition warnings of a potential massacre, Clinton, the head of the Arab League and the foreign ministers of Britain and France headed to New York to push forward a UN resolution Tuesday.
But Russia has vowed to use its veto power to block a resolution introduced by Morocco under which Syrian President Bashar al-Assad would accept a ceasefire and hand over power to a deputy ahead of talks on a settlement.
“The United States condemns in the strongest possible terms the escalation of the Syrian regime’s violent and brutal attacks on its own people,” Clinton said in a statement Monday announcing her trip to the United Nations.
“The Security Council must act and make clear to the Syrian regime that the world community views its actions as a threat to peace and security. The violence must end, so that a new period of democratic transition can begin,” she said.
Clinton said that the Security Council session aimed to send a clear message from the international community to the Syrian people: “We stand with you.”
European Union leaders at a Brussels summit unanimously voiced outrage over the bloodshed in Syria. EU President Herman Van Rompuy called on the Security Council to “take long overdue steps to bring an end to the repression.”
British Prime Minister David Cameron, citing reports that more than 400 children have been killed in the crackdown, said: “It’s frankly an appalling situation.”
“It’s time for all the members of the UN Security Council to live up to their responsibilities instead of shielding those with blood on their hands,” Cameron said.
Russia and China, which have accused Western nations of misusing a UN mandate to depose Libyan strongman Moamer Kadhafi, in October vetoed an earlier Western-backed draft resolution on Syria.
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A French diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that opinions have “evolved” within the council and at least 10 of the 15 members could vote in favor of the draft resolution.
…..Read more
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-showdown-un-west-presses-russia-022022496.html
January 30th, 2012, 10:51 pm
Ghufran said:
Hans,
Joshua is one of many who “advise” the state department,what decides the policy is eventually the Jewish lobby,as far as I know Joshua is not part of that lobby. Israel wants a weak government in Syria and does not care who the president is,they will welcome or condemn Ghalioun or any other figure based on their interests and the new government’s policy towards Iran and the Palestinian question, to be more specific.
SS,
In a civil war,like in Homs,it is a deviation from the truth to blame one sect for crimes against other sects,I know for sure that many innocent Homis lost their lives on the hands of alawi militias,I consider all killers to be equally guilty,and most of the blame for the situation in Syria falls on the shoulder of the regime,go head,guys,and call me anything you want,my position against violence,unless it is in clear self defense,does not have a party or political motive,I lived in the US most of my life and have no plan to return,I have no dog in this race,my only wish is to see Syrians live in peace and dignity with equal rights under the rule of the law,this seems to be too much to ask nowadays,I am afraid.
January 30th, 2012, 11:03 pm
Norman said:
Ghufran,
I don’t know why you blame the regime, just remember that before march 2011 people were able to walk the streets nobody was in danger people were having jobs, their income was getting bigger, after March 2011 and the revolution we see Syria as it is, it seems to me that the revolutionaries and their supporters are mainly responsible for using violence to overthrow the government.
By the way, do you think that Syria will be two, one religious and one secular,?
January 30th, 2012, 11:17 pm
zoo said:
Islam tolerant?
35 Ethiopian Christians face deportation from Saudi
On January 30, 2012
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/01/35-ethiopian-christians-face-deportation-from-saudi/
DUBAI (AFP) – Thirty-five Ethiopian Christians, 29 of them women, face deportation from Saudi Arabia for “illicit mingling” after police raided a private prayer gathering, Human Rights Watch said on Monday.
The New York-based watchdog said the women were subjected to “unwarranted strip search,” while the men were beaten and insulted as “unbelievers”.
The group was arrested on December 15 in a private home in Jeddah as they gathered to pray ahead of Christmas in the ultra-conservative Muslim kingdom which bans the practice of any religious rites except those of Islam.
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January 30th, 2012, 11:23 pm
jad said:
Bronco
Thank you for the sane analyzing, I agree with you, it’s a dilemma, but the key for solution I think is in the white house, and it seems that the Americans are suspicious of the opposition, so now it depends on the American to decide if they want to force the opposition to sit on the table or to escalate the situation further toward a full scale civil war, Filthman told the Russian that he is interested in a solutions not a conflict not knowing where it may goes.
So until both FUKUS and RIC axes come to a deal nothing will change with or without the resolution.
January 30th, 2012, 11:32 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Bronco said
If Russia abstain it will be very humiliating to Russia.
This is not true.
“If Bashar resigns the opposition will not agree for dialogue with the rest of the regime”
This is also not true, wrong prediction on both statement and we will see.
Someone predicted China will support the resolution, If this happened then Russia will be alone against the whole world.
Bashar was afraid that the UN get involved, even if Russia veto the resolution, and the resolution is supported by over 10 votes, it will be a justification to do something, I am against military involvement,but I think safe passages should be done to provide medicine and food to the areas in Syria like Homs , and if the regime stop such humanitarian help, this will be a major mistake and will cost the regime dearly.
Also I strongly support NFZ over Damascus, this means that the regime has no more weapons to use more than what he already used,but more important ,it will raise the moral of the opposition,and will encourage more defections,defections that will include soldiers with their tanks,and other military vehicles.also we will begin to see defection by officials.
January 30th, 2012, 11:34 pm
bronco said:
Ghufran #588
Since a few months, the violence and the deterioration of the situation is Syria is the responsibility of the regime AND the opposition, who has not been able, despite all warnings from the US and most countries to avoid slipping in violence and unacceptable excesses. Obviously failing to rally the major cities in massive protests, the opposition has decided on escalation of violence to provoke an UN intervention. This has had the consequences that many anti-regime Syrians have become also anti-opposition.
Left alone, the continuous escalation of violence by both sides cannot be controlled anymore until one of the party wins militarily.
January 30th, 2012, 11:34 pm
Mohammad said:
@583. SS
1.The massacre you are referring to was committed by the regime. This video shows activists and residents explaining what happened after they were able to retrieve the bodies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P3cmBkIclk&skipcontrinter=1
2. Why is the sound in the video you linked to edited and replaced by music. Maybe because what was being said tells a story contrary to what you would like us to believe.
3. How did you know the family was Alawite? Not even the video you linked to claims this.
4. How did you know the murderers were Muslim brotherhood or Qaeda? Non of which have a presence on the ground except in your imagination.
January 30th, 2012, 11:38 pm
jad said:
The barbaric hysteria violence continues, hanging a man for testifying for the Al observers and slaughtering a family in Homs:
ميليشيات المفكر برهان غليون ترتكب جريمتين مروعتين من الطراز “القندهاري” … ذبحا وشنقا!؟
مجرمون يذبحون عائلة محمد تركي المحمد بالسكاكين من الوريد إلى الوريد لأسباب مذهبية ، ويشنقون مواطنا سوريا أدلى بشهادة للمراقبين العرب ضد ممارساتهم!؟
دمشق / حمص ـ الحقيقة ( خاص) : اقترفت الميليشيات الإجرامية ،التي تنشط تحت اسم “الجيش السوري الحر” ـ الجناح العسكري لـ”المجلس الوطني السوري”، جريمتين مروعتين في حمص تمثلتا بذبح عائلة بكاملها من الوريد إلى الوريد لمجرد انتمائها إلى إحدى الأقليات الدينية التي بات جميع أفرادها متهمين بالولاء للسلطة ، وشنق المواطن محمد مرعي لمجرد أنه أدلى بشهادة للمراقبين العرب ضد ممارساتهم الإجرامية!
وفي التفاصيل ، أقدم مسلحون من “كتيبة الفاروق” الإجرامية في “الجيش الحر” ، التي يديرها إرهابيون سبق لهم أن قاتلوا في العراق مع “القاعدة”، على قتل المواطن محمد تركي المحمد وزوجته وأطفالهما الأربعة لمجرد رفضهم مغادرة حي النازحين في حمص في إطار عملية التطهير المذهبي التي تمارسها هذه الميليشيات الإجرامية. وقالت مصادر “الحقيقة” إن العائلة المغدورة هي إحدى العائلات القليلة التي بقيت في “حي النازحين ” القريب من حي ” عكرمة” ورفضت النزوح إلى أماكن أخرى. ويضم هذا الحي بضع عائلات نازحة من قرى في الجولان المحتل ( زعورة ، فيت.. إلخ) تنتمي للاقٌلية الدينية المتهمة بالولاء للسلطة. وكان مسلحو ” كتيبة الفاروق” حاولوا مرارا وتكرارا طرد العائلة من الحي ، لكنها رفضت الخروج منه. وهم يحاولون الآن طرد عائلة ” أبو علي الفران” من الحي نفسه وللأسباب نفسها ، بعد أن أصدروا ” فتوى ” مشتقة من فتوى ابن تيمية المشهورة التي تحرم حتى تناول الطعام مع المنتمين لهذه الأقلية ! علما بأن العائلة المذكورة ، المهددة الآن بالذبح كعائلة المغدور محمد تركي المحمد، لديها فرن خبز في الحي المذكور، شملت الفتوى عدم شراء الخبز منه!؟
هذا ولم يكتف المجرمون بذلك ، بل عمدوا إلى تصوير أنفسهم مع جثث الضحايا المغدورين والادعاء بأن السلطة قتلتهم ، مستفيدين من حقيقة أن إعلام السلطة والمعارضة الوطنية الديمقراطية يتجنب الإشارة إلى الهوية المذهبية للضحايا بسبب الخجل من الإشارة إلى مذاهب وديانات المواطنين ، وبالتالي قناعة القتلة بأن أحدا لن يكتشف أن هؤلاء الضحايا ينتمون للطائفة المتهمة عن بكرة أبيها بالولاء للسلطة من قبل “مجلس غليون” القندهاري الذي يديره فاروق طيفور ـ بطل الاغتيالت والسيارات المفخخة خلال الثمانينيات!!( النسخة المنشورة جامبا من الشريط لا تتضمن صور القتلة الذين تصوروا مع الضحايا وادعوا أن السلطة قتلتهم. فتلك النسخة جرى توزيعها من قبل صفحات المعارضة الغليونية ـ الإسلامية ومشتقاتها).
على صعيد متصل ، أقدم مجرمون من “الجيش الصهيوني الحر” الذي يقوده العميل رياض الأسعد ( أنطوان لحد سوريا) على شنق المواطن محمد مرعي لمجرد أنه أدلى بإفادة للمراقبين العرب كشف فيها عن الممارسات الإجرامية لعصابات وميليشيات هذا الجيش العميل الذي تديره المخابرات التركية والفرنسية ، والذي كان من آخر مآثره استخدام قواذف ” شيبون بي 300 ” الإسرائيلية لتدمير المدرعات السورية!
الفضيحة اللتي يندى لها الجبين ، والتي تبزّ الجريمة بحد ذاتها ، هو أن المئات من الرعاع والهمج والبرابرة وقفوايتفرجون على الجريمة ويلتقطون لها الصور بهواتفهم النقالة في طقس هستيري بهيمي! وهو ما يؤكد أن الأغلبية الساحقة ممن بقي في الشارع ، ومن جماهير “المجلس الوطني السوري” وجناحه المسلح ( “الجيش الحر”) على وجه التخصيص، هم من التكفيريين!
تبقى الإشارة هنا إلى أن التيار الإسلامي الوحيد في العالم الذي يمارس الذبح والقتل بهذه الطريقة هو تيار الإسلام التلمودي المتمثل بالوهابية ، التي تتبناها المنظمات الأصولية والتكفيرية مثل “القاعدة” و أخواتها. ويستند هذا التيار في عقيدته إلى فتوى ” ابن تيمية” التي تكفر جميع الطوائف والمذاهب المسيحية والإسلامية التي تختلف مع ما يسمى في كتب الفقه ” أهل السنة والجماعة”!
وكان المئات من المسلحين الأصوليين تدفقوا من العراق ولبنان ومناطق أخرى ، وباتوا يسيطرون على العمل المسلح في جميع المناطق تحت اسم “الجيش الحر” الذي أصبح اسما يختفي وراءه المسلحون من مختلف الأشكال والألوان. وكان أربعة أصوليين لبنانيين قتلوا يوم أمس داخل الأراضي السورية وهم يشاركون في القتال ، بينما اعتقلت أجهزة السلطة العشرات ممن المسلحين من جنسيات عربية ، ومن دول إسلامية، خلال العملية الأمنية الواسعة التي تنفذها في غوطة دمشق الشرقية. هذا بينما كشف مسؤول في “الجيش الحر” لصحيفة “الأخبار” اللبنانية يوم أمس أن أكثر من مئة لبناني من المتطرفين الإسلاميين يقاتلون الآن مع “الجيش الحر” في عمق الأراضي السورية ، ويساعدون على تهريب الأسلحة والقيام بعمليات التفجير!
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/6577/Default.aspx
January 30th, 2012, 11:39 pm
Ghufran said:
Norman,
The environment of corruption and oppression that took over Syria after 1963 created the right medium for thugs today to prosper and use impoverished and uneducated people,among others,as fuel for the violence we see today. I never said that the regime is behind all the killing,I know better,the regime is the most significant preventable cause for the poverty Syrians suffer from today.
I see no chance of Syrians,in the short term,to be able to go back to those days when women can walk alone at night and people from various sects
enjoy the security Syria enjoyed prior to march,2011. In that sense,this uprising took away something very precious from ordinary Syrians,it is heart breaking and I can not only blame the opposition for this outcome.
January 30th, 2012, 11:39 pm
Tara said:
Zoo
“Islam tolerant?” Equating a religion with the practice of Muslims?
Is it fair to equate Jesus message with the practice of pedophilia by the Catholic church?
“Christianity pedophiliac?”
Prejudice? Unconscious prejudice?
Saddening! I may be looking for people that do not exist.
January 30th, 2012, 11:42 pm
bronco said:
#Jad 591
I agree. Ironically the US maybe the factor that will help the regime, with or without Bashar. BUT, the price will be a flexible attitude of Syria toward the peace process with Israel. I think the current regime in Syria will agree without hesitation because anyway it was in the process of peace negotiations with Israel before the Gaza war, Turkey playing the go-between.
Having been dumped and betrayed by most Arab countries, including the Palestinians, and suspended from the AL, Syria owes nothing anymore to the Arabs and may be set to a unilateral deal with Israel, and Lebanon will probably follow. This perspective should please the US and EU. Let see if they will cancel their plan of a regime change, with or without Bashar al Assad.
Yet, they will have to find a scapegoat for all the crimes committed to calm the public opinions that has been fed with horrors stories and human rights abuses. Is it Bashar?
January 30th, 2012, 11:51 pm
zoo said:
595. Tara
Do you deny that Saudi Arabia is the craddle of Islam and has control over its most sacred sites, Mecca and Medina?
Wouldn’t you expect that they give an example of the tolerance of Islam that most Moslems associate themselves with?
If this was happening in any other moslem countries, it could be seen ‘a practice’ problem, but in a country where the Prophet was born and preached a religion of tolerance, it is totally unacceptable and all Moslems should raise and condemn those who are disfiguring with total impunity the message of the Holy Koran!
Instead… you attack christianity.
January 31st, 2012, 12:00 am
jad said:
Ghufran
I agree with both Norman and Bronco that escalation of violence lately can’t be blamed solely on the regime.
The terrorist militias with the support, financially and by weapons and training by the usual west-gulf powers as long as the Qaeda style terrorist militia getting involved, both of them went full scale war against the State, the government react in the manner any government in the world may react to such terrorist attack and threat to it’s citizens and it’s foundations.
Many of us here predicted that the escalation of violence will happen the moment the mule of qatar finished his deceleration of war against Syria, yes part of the violence is blamed on the government but the other part of it is also blamed on the terrorists and on some of the political oppositions who saw this hideous violence threat coming but decided to keep hiding it until it explodes in everybody’s face and I’m positive that even the oppositions don’t have any power over those criminals and they can’t even stop them even if they want.
However, this blaming game is useless and won’t help to solve anything, what is needed the most now is to bring reality back and instead of sacrificing innocent Syrians lives for no good, to try to find a solution and start a political and social ‘remediation’ process that may help put Syria back on the right track.
Negotiation and mediation is needed at the moment. nothing else can solve this tragedy.
January 31st, 2012, 12:02 am
Ghufran said:
Bronco,
Bashar is damaged goods,the question is how and when he exits Syrian politics and not if he will,Russia does not want him humiliated but others do,I am sure that many Syrians can see the whole picture and not stay hostage to personalities and egos.
No regime will survive the test of time if it is not inclusive,this means that those who my be willing to sacrify Bashar but not dump the regime entirely. Revolutionists are only kidding themselves when they claim that 90% of Syrians are supportive of a total regime change,even Clinton,an American politician who is mostly interested in protecting Israel and antagonizing the Iranian regime,is obviously not comfortable in dismissing the will and the rights of a significant portion of the Syrian society who want to see a major political change but not another totalitarian regime that will simply replace one bad apple with another.
January 31st, 2012, 12:11 am
jad said:
Bronco,
I’m not sure how making a deal with Israel can help, the fundamental issue is not the peace process, it’s about political freedom and human rights along developing Syria socially and financially, if Syrians don’t get the basics this uprising were build upon, neither the US nor the whole world will be able to save anybody. No?
Ghufran,
Check out this primitive political talk by Ghalyoun to the Russians and compare it to Manna….pretty pathetic!
غليون: المعارضة بسوريا اعطت ضمانات لروسيا بشأن قاعدتها البحرية بطرطوس
لفت رئيس المجلس الوطني السوري برهان غليون لـ”النهار” الى إن “المعارضة السورية أعطت ضمانات لروسيا في شأن قاعدتها البحرية في طرطوس وفي شأن مصالحها الإستراتيجية في سوريا”، مشيرا الى أن “موسكو تريد اعترافاً من واشنطن والغرب بأن روسيا قوة عظمى على غرار ما كانه الإتحاد السوفياتي سابقاً”، مناشدا “المسؤولين الروس تغيير موقفهم من الأحداث الجارية في سوريا”.
January 31st, 2012, 12:15 am
Mohamed Kanj said:
@585 Jad and Bronco – The russian position will not budge one inch. They keep on repeating the same line day by day. Their is not even the slightest chance of the Russians giving in to the americans,europeans or camels from the gulf. Putin is only 2 months away from becoming president of Russia again. They will veto anything that does not keep mr assad in power and will wait until the terrorist r crushed. Any weakness in the russian position will embolden the terrorists even more and put fear into the minorities and moderate sunni’s of syria. Russia will become a superpower reminicant of the soviet era once again. I was watching the sunni tribal leaders from raqqa, deir zour, hassaka speak last nite on tv. They gave the green light along with the russians for the syrian army to crush these terrorists with full force.
By the way, i think mr landis should have watched the speeches by the 500 sunni tribal clans of syria last nite. For every clan leader their will b thousands of family members who r in the syrian army, whether it b an officer,soldier or general etc. Maybe mr landis should put those figures into his statistics when stating that the majority of army/security forces r allawites
January 31st, 2012, 12:16 am
jad said:
مثل الذي باع بلاده وخان وطنه مثل الذي يسرق من بيت أبيه ليطعم اللصوص فلا أبوه يسامحه ولا اللص يكافئه
تشي جيفارا
January 31st, 2012, 12:29 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Syrian regime owes it to the syrian people not to make peace with Israel so this regime stays, Syria must not betray the arabic cause,because of other Arab goverment behaviour toward Syrian regime, this will be treason, and all syrians are against it.
Whatever the Russian delegate to the UN says,the final word will be the Russian goverment decision in Moscow, I expect the syrian delegate to UN, Mr. Ja3fari,will be very nervous in the next two days
January 31st, 2012, 12:34 am
Tara said:
Zoo
I don’t follow the logic.. No I don’t deny that the land of Saudia Arabia is the cradle of Islam. What I oppose is for Saud monarchy to be misconstrued as embodiment of the Muslim faith. Have you not heard every single one of us, those who get offended when the religion is attacked, condemning the regime in KSA and asking for an Arab spring to take over in KSA et al next? Nevertheless, even if a single voice raising and condemning those who are disfiguring the massage with total impunity is not heard, equating the massage with it’s followers or its self appointed preachers is not right.
Additionally, read my post and all previous posts for that matter and point out to me where I attacked the massage of Christ?
While I DO KNOW you have NO hatred, bigotry, or prejudice in you (despite me saying otherwise in the initial post) and I am sure you have observed I never shy away from “expressing” my heart out, I believe you made a mistake. Intolerant Muslims ok, intolerant Islam is not. Attack the people as you see fit. I will join you attacking them. Attacking a faith is not ok. People find peace and comfort in their faith. Let us leave it alone. Don’t you agree?
January 31st, 2012, 12:43 am
Tara said:
It is a “message”. I misspelled it. Edit function does not show on the iPad I am using.
January 31st, 2012, 12:48 am
jad said:
Mohamed,
I understand your point regarding Russia, however, after all things happened to Syria throughout its history, I can’t trust no body in politics especially when it comes to our region and specifically to Syria.
So it’s better to prepare ourselves for the worst.
January 31st, 2012, 12:51 am
William Scott Scherk said:
Jad said:
Jad said:
Jad said:
Ghufran said:
Norman said:
It is clear — and clearly reported — that the Syrian National Council has rejected sitting in dialogue with the Assad regime in Moscow. What is less clear is the position of Haytham Mannah and the NCB. If we check the NCB Facebook page we see a message (taken from an Italian news agency/story) that seems to reject the Moscow dialogue (in Arabic).
In a statement to the New York Times, the NCB also seems to have rejected dialogue with the regime in Moscow.
Here is a link to a France 24 (Arabic) 30 minute program featuring Dr Manna. It was uploaded yesterday.
Here is the Times story that quotes Dr Manna.
New York Times (today, updated five minutes ago):
Here is a story from AlArabiya that strongly suggests the NCB rejects dialogue with the regime in Moscow.
Al-Arabiya (quoting Hassan Abdel Azim, the chairman of the NCB)
Events are moving fast (Dr Manna reports on his Facebook page a meeting with the US Embassy’s James Miller in Paris) … and I am having a difficult time reconciling the statements above by Syria Commenters with the statements from both Manna and Azim.
January 31st, 2012, 1:08 am
zoo said:
#604 Tara
I never read anything where you criticize Saudi Arabia on their interpretation of Islam or on their hijacking of the Islam faith. Your critics have been on human rights and freedom of expression overlooking the fact that the lack of these is not simply a social or political phenomenon but a religious phenomenon. Therefore the issue of religion cannot be ignored and this religion happens to be Islam.
The Islam they represent is intolerant and you know it and it has deep implications on their society.
You console yourself is implying that there are many “islams’, some tolerant, some not. I agree, but for most people in the world, Islam is one single religion and what the rich Saudi Arabia projects in the world is an image of an intolerant and rigid religion. It is unacceptable that Moslems stay silent about it.
To be consistent, I expect that you defend strongly your views of Islam and attack as strongly the ones who disfigure it.
Expelling christians ethiopians in the name of Islam should make you shout and protests, not be on the defensive.
By not doing so, you are condoning the abuses they are making in the name of your religion.
January 31st, 2012, 1:28 am
zoo said:
Will Russia veto Syria resolution at U.N.?
By Louis Charbonneau | Reuters – 3 hrs ago
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-veto-syria-resolution-u-n-015750922.html
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – The Arab League will ask the U.N. Security Council on Tuesday to adopt a resolution endorsing an Arab plan for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to transfer powers to his deputy, but it is unclear whether Russia will veto, abstain or vote “yes.”
Tuesday’s meeting of the 15-nation council will include Arab League Secretary-General Nabil Elaraby, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, British Foreign Secretary William Hague and French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe, among other officials. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is not expected to attend.
A vote on the resolution drafted by Europeans and Arabs could come before the end of the week, diplomats say.
Russia and China vetoed a European-drafted resolution in October that condemned Syria and threatened it with sanctions.
The new draft resolution, obtained by Reuters, calls for a “political transition” in Syria. While it does not call for military action or U.N. sanctions against Syria, it does say that the Security Council could “adopt further measures” if Damascus does not comply with the terms of the resolution.
Veto-power China, as well as South Africa, India and Pakistan, also have reservations about the draft but are expected to follow Russia’s lead when the text is put to a vote, U.N. envoys say. Resolutions pass if they get nine votes in favor and no vetoes.
Western envoys say 10 nations have pledged to vote “yes.”
RUSSIAN VETO
This scenario is very likely. Several diplomats said Washington is convinced that Moscow plans to use its veto again. Russia has not explicitly threatened to veto the European-Arab resolution, but has said the draft is unacceptable in its present form.
Russia may feel that abstaining from a vote on the draft resolution, which would enable it to pass, would be tantamount to tacitly supporting the ouster of Assad, whose government is one of the Russian arms industry’s top customers.
Analysts say Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin – who is running for president in March and bitterly criticized the council resolution authorizing the NATO campaign in Libya, which Russia let pass by abstaining – wants to look firm in the face of Western pressure.
Vetoing the Syria resolution may be exactly the kind of strong message Putin wants to send the United States and the EU as it strives to help its allies remain in power in Damascus.
But there could be problems with vetoing the Syrian resolution. Moscow might risk alienating the Gulf Arab states and other nations that support the Arab League plan.
Also, if Assad is eventually overthrown, those who replace him might not allow Russia to keep its naval bases in Syria.
RUSSIAN ABSTENTION
This is also a possible outcome. Russia may feel that the negative consequences of a veto outweigh the benefits of blocking the resolution. Abstaining would enable Russia to register its opposition to the measure while allowing it to pass.
The Arab League, the United States and the EU are attempting to persuade Russia to abstain, arguing that a vote against the resolution would be a vote against the Arab world, diplomats say.
Russia would also improve its strained ties with the United States and the EU by letting the resolution pass.
Moscow, however, has argued that the Arabs are divided and that the Arab League plan does not have the full and unanimous support of all league members.
The opposition Syrian National Council met with Russia’s U.N. delegation on Monday but said the Russians, who have called for negotiations between the Syrian government and opposition, were not happy about the group’s demand for Assad to step aside.
RUSSIA VOTES ‘YES’
This is the least likely scenario but several Western diplomats insisted privately that it is possible to secure a ‘yes’ vote from Russia.
In order for the Russians to vote yes, the Western powers and Arab League would have to dilute the language in their resolution related to support for the Arab League plan, replacing the word “supports” with something weaker.
But even if Britain and France came up with wording acceptable to the Russians, Qatar, other Arab nations and the United States might object to it, diplomats said.
LONG, DRAWN-OUT NEGOTIATIONS
This is also a possibility. Western diplomats say Russia has been playing for time for months, slowing down negotiations on Syria to prevent the Security Council from doing anything. This could be an attempt to give Assad’s government more time to crush the rebellion, diplomats say.
But U.S. and European diplomats want to prevent any attempts by Russia to delay the vote. They want their resolution put to a vote soon, ideally before the end of this week.
(Additional reporting by Steve Gutterman in Moscow; editing by Christopher Wilson)
January 31st, 2012, 1:35 am
Mina said:
Jad 590
And the bargain chip will be somewhere under the Caspian Sea?
January 31st, 2012, 1:51 am
bronco said:
Jad
The priorities of the US is not the welfare of the Syrians, but the security and welfare of Israel.
The emerging islamic republic of Egypt, Tunisia and Libya, like the islamic republic of Iran are potential threats to Israel.
The prospect of a peace deal with Syria, Lebanon and Israel is very attractive to both the USA and Israel and should be welcomed by the EU.
Will the governement after Bashar that would be issued from the SNC in majority islamist be as flexible?
January 31st, 2012, 1:51 am
zoo said:
Honor crime UAE style
Man who had a relationship with woman is raped by 13 of her male relatives
The National staff
Jan 31, 2012
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/man-who-had-a-relationship-with-woman-is-raped-by-13-of-her-male-relatives
January 31st, 2012, 1:57 am
zoo said:
Decades of foreign bumbling push Syrians towards war
Charles Glass
Jan 31, 2012
http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/comment/decades-of-foreign-bumbling-push-syrians-towards-war
…
The predicted futures for Syria are many and contradictory. One is that the opposition will take power, as happened in Tunisia, and install a democratic and secular future. Another is that, as in Egypt, the military will be left as arbiter of a new order. Yet another posits power devolving to the Muslim Brotherhood with its claims to represent the Sunni majority. Some columnists in the Lebanese press suggest that Mr Al Assad is preparing the ground for retreat into an Alawite state centred on Latakia in the north-west that would bring about the Balkanisation of Syria.
This happened once before. In 1920, when France occupied Syria, it divided the country into separate states: Damascus, Aleppo, Jebel Druze, Alexandretta, Greater Lebanon and the Alawite State. Each was given its own flag, postage stamps and governor. Uprisings burst forth immediately, and by 1936 most of Syria had been reunited. Lebanon remained apart, and France ceded Alexandretta to Turkey in 1939. (Syrian-Turkish animosity ever since must be seen against the background of this imperially-imposed loss.) The Alawites in 1920, as now, preferred Syria over a sectarian enclave.
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January 31st, 2012, 2:01 am
Tara said:
Zoo
I would like to explore your views a bit further but I must say good night for now. I have to be alert and thinking and physically present at work in 4 hours from now. So, to be continued..if you still have an interest of course…. Sleep well.
January 31st, 2012, 2:03 am
Juergen said:
Hans
Democracy is an empty word for you. Period.
January 31st, 2012, 2:09 am
William Scott Scherk said:
Several commenters over the last week have weighed in on the troubles between the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, and the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (London). Reference was made to As’ad AbuKhalil (The Angry Arab) and a post he made that put forward the claims of the second group without investigation.
Commentary ranged from “the ‘guy’ is a fake” to “Rami Abd Alrahman fake identity“. A couple of SC commenters have further scorned the SOHR as a “lying … propaganda machine.”
The conclusion that the SOHR is a propaganda machine in favour of NATO bombing, and that the “fake” man is an imposter and a tool of terrorists … this assurance seems based on the Angry Arab post cited by Jad.
That Angry Arab post was put up on January 18th.
Since that time, Angry Arab has revisited the issue. In a post from January 27th, he mentioned the controversy one more time, and references “excellent investigative work done” by journalists at Al Akhbar English (Asa Wistanley, Antoun Issa and Bassam Alkantar). This blog post of his, and the story it references have yet to be noted.
Here is an excerpt from that lengthy Al Akhbar story, “The Syrian Observatory: The Inside Story.” It turns out that the primary supporter for Abdulraman is none other than Haytham Manna, one of the leaders of the NCB. The story was published on January 26.
January 31st, 2012, 2:19 am
Mawal95 said:
Here’s a comment about what the uprising in Tunisia was:
January 31st, 2012, 2:41 am
Mawal95 said:
A comment about how the Western news media pitched the Tunisian uprising story (source: John R. Bradley):
January 31st, 2012, 2:53 am
Sami Othamni said:
It is a bit strange but I always find that Dr landis’s analysis is always late or delayed. in Fact, what is mentioned above is true a few months ago. Today, the situation on the ground is totally different. the FSA is stronger than you thing. There are major cracks in the army and the defections are increasing rapidly. My info from Syria tells that the FSA is taking grounds and the soldiers fighting with Assad are only those loyal to him from the Alwaites. Even General Khalouf, Head of Palestine Branch, whom i know personally, defected with a number of soldiers and he is fighting in the suburbs in Damascus. he is from Rankous, the thing which made it the target of attack from the Syrian Army. Bashar is walking out soon. he does not have the strong character to affect otehrs, give orders and take a brave decision. by the way even if he decided to take the decision to do what his father did in Hama, he will have no one to follow orders.
I know that Mr Emad Moustafa Reads your blog, and through him i would like to tell Mr Assad that he better leaves now or face the music. He will be fed to the lions by his ‘own’ people.
January 31st, 2012, 3:16 am
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: BRONCO
RE: “…they will have to find scapegoats for all the crimes committed to calm public opinion…”
How about you? (edited for hateful language)
January 31st, 2012, 3:20 am
Juergen said:
Jad
i post when i find appropriate sources, like i posted the Zeit article last week. And i do post even things i find questionable. There are currently no german tv crews in the country, they merely show the same images nowadays in our news.
January 31st, 2012, 3:29 am
Syria no kandahar said:
Syrian Hamster said;
بيوتنا الجميلة
جدرانها البيضاء
تلونت بحمرة الدماء
وجثة البريء
أثارت القميء
وحسه الدنيء
بنسمة الحبق
This is what he is talking about;
January 31st, 2012, 3:29 am
Alan said:
612
الحلقة القادمة من المسلسل هي صراعات سنية شيعية تديرها اسرائيل وسيزج فيها من يتمنى و من لا يتمنى ذلك
January 31st, 2012, 3:52 am
Revlon said:
493. IRRITATED SAID:
The more desperate the opposition becomes, the more absurd rumors appear, happily carried by idiotic media.
((Escaping by car?
Are the all army helicopters down?))
Nop!
But!
The one that may carry Asma or Assad family may be downed!
Murphy’s law has its ways, you know!
Once in heavens you can ask the late General Adnan Khairallah about it.
The ruling Assad family are now so paranoid that they would not trust any one outside the circuit of Jr, mommy, bro, and sissy; Not even his uncles or cousins are close enough to be entrusted to protect the his gang.
Escaping by car!
Yes that is a much more reliable and safe means of transport, for someone who is surrounded with so many potential “Proteus”.
I predict that Assad and family shall flee by land; they will not trust any engineer, pilot or
January 31st, 2012, 4:52 am
Juergen said:
Haitham Maleh:
Assad and his family ‘will die like Gadhafi’
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Syrian+forces+tighten+grip+Damascus+outskirts/6071648/story.html#ixzz1kzdEnkyl
January 31st, 2012, 5:29 am
Juergen said:
Thats the way the regime thugs want to deal with their enemies their own people
Julia Petrous: Shoot Army, no mercy anymore…
Thats what one find on regime pages nowadays…
January 31st, 2012, 5:33 am
irritated said:
#625
Haitham Maleh:
“Assad and his family ‘will die like Gadhafi”’
Then they won’t be the only ones, Haytham Maleh and others may get the same fate when in Syria. Among 50% of the Syrians supporting Bahsar Al Assad, there will be some who won’t stay passive.
January 31st, 2012, 9:00 am
zoo said:
Russia will not allow the removal of Bashar al Assad and the resulting civil war in Syria as a large number of Syrians and the army will not accept that foreign diktat on their country.
Russia: UN resolution on Syria is path to war
By ELIZABETH A. KENNEDY | Associated Press – 55 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-un-resolution-syria-path-war-130605420.html
BEIRUT (AP) — A senior Russian diplomat warned Tuesday that a draft U.N. resolution demanding Syrian President Bashar Assad step aside is a “path to civil war,” as Syrian troops crushed pockets of resistance by rebel soldiers on the outskirts of Damascus.
The U.N. Security Council was to meet Tuesday to discuss the draft, backed by Western and some Arab powers. But Russia would likely veto any punitive action.
“The Western draft Security Council resolution on Syria does not lead to a search for compromise,” Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov wrote on Twitter. “Pushing this resolution is a path to civil war.”
{…}
January 31st, 2012, 9:08 am
Revlon said:
Rastan is currently divided: Liberated where demonstrators march under protection of FSA, and occupied with outlawed Assad forces where protestors yearn for FSA forces to liberate them.
فلاش الرستن مظاهرة بحماية الجيش الحر رائعة 29 1 2012
January 31st, 2012, 9:14 am
Jerusalem said:
Galioun’s militia while doing their ethnic cleansing, killed two families because they refused to leave their homes in Homes and framed the scene as its the official army who did it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5vTg1-T-54&feature=player_embedded
They hanged the witness Muhamad Muree because he testified against Galioun’s militia.
January 31st, 2012, 9:20 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Juergen
IRRRRRRitated
I disagree, Asma AlAkhras Assad and the children has never committed any crime and they should be spared the money should return to the Syrians, but they should get no punishment physically.
As far as Anisa, Bashar mother, it may be different,did she have anything to do with the decision of Bashar to kill syrians? if so then she should be punished.
Maher and Bashar and Asef Shawkat and Bushra must be tried and when the guilty verdict comes,we need to rid the world from them.
Zoo
You are wrong, go back and read all our comments, we repeatedly and severly criticized the rulers of all the Arab kings ,they are dictators, they violated islamic rule , kingdom system is not islamic,and the choice of the ruler in Islam is by “choosing by the muslems”,not by inheriting the rule, the KSA king has used Islam to abuse molems, and there are documented evidences that the king behaved anti islamiic,Drinking wine, gambling, and his dealing with women.
We criticised that but I do not think you read our comments.
you owe us apology.
January 31st, 2012, 9:22 am
zoo said:
Assad must go, no foreign forces in Syria: UNSC draft
Published: 31 January, 2012, 11:27
http://rt.com/news/un-resolution-syria-russia-131/
….
But Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Moscow has no intentions of telling President Assad to step down.
“Russian politics is not to ask someone to resign,” he told Australia’s ABC TV channel. “Regime change is not our profession,” the minister added.
He also rejected out of hand any accusation that Russia unconditionally supports the Syrian leader. “We are not President Assad’s friends or allies,” he stressed. Lavrov made it clear earlier on Tuesday that Assad’s continuing tenure as president is not a precondition for a settlement in Syria.
Western diplomacy is making another attempt to use the UN as a tool to promote its foreign policy agenda, drafting a new and ambiguous resolution on Syria which sets out a roadmap to topple President Bashar Assad.
The resolution fails to take account of the positions of countries like Russia and China, which have presented a united front opposing regime change in Damascus.
Moscow says the new resolution contains a threat to “adopt further measures if Syria does not comply with the terms of the resolution,” opening the door to a Libya-style foreign intervention in the conflict-torn Middle Eastern country.
However, the draft resolution does confirm Lavrov’s prior guarantee the UN Security Council would never support a tour de force against Syria.
“If [the Syrian] opposition refuses to sit at a negotiation table with the regime – what is the alternative? To bomb the regime? I’ve seen that before,” Lavrov said, “I guarantee the Security Council will never approve this.”
….
Kosachev believes the Syrian opposition is simply listening to the message coming from abroad, from Washington or Brussels. This message has always been “’this regime does not have a future, don’t talk to them’ – this message is wrong.”
The result of such a stance will be clashes, casualties and blood, Kosachev predicted, “But not due to Russia’s position, but due to the very unilateral and unfair position taken by the US and their allies.”
January 31st, 2012, 9:24 am
zoo said:
Majedalkhaldoon
#631
If you did, you did well, but I have not see many serious Arab media carrying your objections. If there is please point them to me.
January 31st, 2012, 9:31 am
zoo said:
Despite alleged ‘massive defections’…
Syria forces retake Damascus suburbs; showdown at U.N.
By Khaled Yacoub Oweis and Louis Charbonneau | Reuters – 1 hr 40 mins ago
AMMAN/UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – Syrian government forces reasserted control of Damascus suburbs on Tuesday after beating back rebels at the capital’s gates as diplomatic pressure mounted on President Bashar al-Assad at the United Nations.
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-forces-retake-damascus-suburbs-showdown-u-n-011227928.html
Syrian troops push further into Damascus suburbs
Associated PressBy ELIZABETH A. KENNEDY | Associated Press – 3 hrs ago
http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-troops-push-further-damascus-suburbs-091002092.html
BEIRUT (AP) — Syria’s troops crushed pockets of resistance on Damascus’ outskirts Tuesday as they advanced into suburbs briefly held by rebel forces, just hours before key U.N. talks over a draft resolution demanding President Bashar Assad step aside.
Government forces on Monday regained control of most of the capital’s eastern suburbs after dissident soldiers captured the territory last week. Soldiers moved early Tuesday into the two remaining towns still in rebel hands, activists said.
“Intense shooting was heard in Zamalka and Arbeen as the tanks advanced,” the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said, citing its network of sources on the ground. Regime forces made sweeping arrests in the nearby town of Rankous, activists said.
January 31st, 2012, 9:36 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Zoo quoted
that Assad’s continuing tenure as president is not a precondition for a settlement in Syria.
this implies that Russia may abstain.
Right now Homs, Baba Amr is bombarded by the criminal Bashar forces.
January 31st, 2012, 9:42 am
Ghufran said:
I know as a fact that there will not be a quick victory in Syria as long as the regime or the opposition uses the language of force. Even if the regime falls now,expect a long and bloody war that can last for decades and involve domestic and regional forces,this will undoubtedly transform Syria into a battle field and a haven for foreign intelligence agents among others. The path to hell is paved by people with good intentions,this is not the time for people with revenge based mind or revolutionists,a genuine revolution is a massive popular movement where the vast majority of people rises against a small circle of thugs in power,in Syria there are real thugs who stole Syria’s wealth and ignore citizens god given right for self governance,but what is being introduced as a solution is replacing a thuggish regime with another that discounts the rights and opinion of a large section of the Syrian society.the regime famous line of “it is either us or chaos” is being reinforced by the action of armed and militant groups that can not live in peace or respect diversity.
January 31st, 2012, 9:53 am
Revlon said:
This boy’s suffering and most likely his life as well were saved by this gallant act of the FSA.
Neither AL-Dabi’s observe-but-can’t-see mission, nor Manna3’s wishful peaceful thinking could have brought this boy back to his mother.
Saving life matters to the people!
Saving the corrupt institutions matters to the corrupt!
Special force unit of FSA managed to liberate a boy that was kidnapped three days earlier by outlawed, Assad forces.
They also managed to retrieve data belonging to Shabbeeha cell that kidnapped the boy.
The video shows marks of torture on the boy’s body
عملية نوعية لكتيبة المهام الخاصة ( ذو النورين )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s22M-6I0oqQ
Uploaded by hamedhhdd on Jan 29, 2012
The following is an English transcription of the boy’s statements
While walking in the hood, guys wearing Jeans grabbed and blindfolded me and took me away.
I was taken to several places.
They frequently beat me
Some interrogated me; I did not understand a thing they were asking!
One time I was unfolded and saw blood in the room and heard screams.
The boy was able to identify his kidnappers and the torturer in the photos stored in scandisc confiscated during the hostage liberation.
January 31st, 2012, 9:56 am
jad said:
The protests against war started earlier this time. (Iraq war ghost)
Stop the War Coalition ‘Hands off Iran & Syria’ protest, Jan 28th 2012
http://youtu.be/kCflODvHCuY
“Amazing, inspirational, student speaker Shadia Edwards-Dashti at the Stop the War Coalition ‘Hands off Iran and Syria’ protest on January 28th 2012. In her speech, she talks of how her taxes and fees she pays are used to fund nuclear weapon programs and unjust wars, and that such money could be better spent on healthcare, education and young people. Peace.”
January 31st, 2012, 9:58 am
jad said:
I think that if the resolution pass as is without any changes, it will have devastating results on Syrians.
“وزير خارجية فرنسا يشكك في امكانية تغيير الموقف الروسي من أزمة سوريا”
The sectarian hysteria in Homs continue, after a Syrian Sunni family were murdered, a Syrian Alawite family were murdered in retaliation. Now a Syrian Christian family of 4 also slaughtered by radicals.
“النشرة”: عائلة مسيحية تعرضت لمذبحة في حمص على يد أصوليين
علمت “النشرة” ان عائلة مسيحية من 4 أفراد تعرضت لمذبحة في حمص بالامس على يد اصوليين. ومع هذه المذبحة ارتفع عدد المسيحيين القتلى في حمص وحدها الى 200.
January 31st, 2012, 10:09 am
Ghufran said:
A good read from alquds alarabi
http://www.alquds.co.uk/index.asp?fname=today%5C30qpt479.htm&arc=data%5C2012%5C01%5C01-30%5C30qpt479.htm
January 31st, 2012, 10:11 am
Revlon said:
Announcement by AlKhansaa Medical battalion
29 1 2012 Al Madimyah Damascus أوغاريت معضمية الشام ريف دمشق , بيان كتيبة الخنساء الطبية
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxKrRlOoC4
Uploaded by UgaritNews on Jan 29, 2012
A team of Medical professional women announce formation of AlKhansaa Medical Battalion and joining of FSA.
They warn Mu3addamiyeh activists against collaborating with the regime in return for the release of revolution prisoners
They reason that Mu3addamiyeh prisoners are not more valued than other prisoners in Syria or those who paid their life to propel this revolution for freedom.
January 31st, 2012, 10:16 am
bronco said:
639. jad
Homs is like Beirut in 1976, slaughters, retaliations, vendetta, thefts. It took decades for this to stop and thanks to an agreement between the USA and Syria approved by Lebanon to bring in the Syrian Army that was considered as non sectarian.
There is no one you can trust to help Homs now.
January 31st, 2012, 10:19 am
jad said:
The Transformation of The Syrian Revolution, Bassam Haddad
In this Al-Jazeera English interview, Jadaliyya Co-Editor Bassam Haddad addresses the impending UN Security Council vote regarding Syria. He posits that the Syrian revolution is undergoing a transformation “from a legitimate domestic fight against dictatorship to someting far more cynical” that involves efforts to redraw the map of the region. Thus, the “diplomatic” efforts should not be taken at face value.
http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/4192/the-transformation-of-the-syrian-revolution_aje-in
A Saudi propagandist on the Syrian regime
“”It is a regime that exhausted the Americans in Iraq and caused the killing of 3,000 U.S. troops and more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians as a result of its support to al-Qaeda and the jihadists who used to come from all over the Arab world to Damascus, where they got trained before heading to Iraq to die in suicide attacks.”” When Saudi propagandists write in Arabic, they are writing for Western audiences. This is why they are keen on translating their own words into English. (thanks Karim)
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil at 6:33 AM
Sources of Aljazeera
The website of the lousy Qatari regime news propaganda channel has a report on the Free Syrian gangs and they cite Christian Science Monitor which cites an “expert” at WINEP.
Posted by As’ad AbuKhalil at 6:11 AM
January 31st, 2012, 10:24 am
jad said:
Bronco,
Sadly, I agree, Homs today is the capital of violence in Syria, it’s exactly like Beirut just days before the full segregation of its neighbourhoods according to sects and one hour before the set up of the confronting fire lines between them. and as you said, nobody to help at the moment, the UN resolution would be the official sign of Lebanization of Syria.
And now the west is threatening Russia for not letting the plan of destroying Syria to go ahead as they wanted.
هيغ:الخطة العربية المعروضة على مجلس الأمن هي الأنسب لحل الأزمة السورية
أكد وزير الخارجية البريطاني وليام هيغ ان الخطة العربية المعروضة على مجلس الأمن هي الانسب لحل الازمة السورية.
وحذر في حديثين لـ”الجزيرة” و”العربية” من ان الوضع في سوريا سيتدهور والاقتصاد يتدهور ايضا وهذا مستقبل كئيب للشعب السوري، لافتا الى ان روسيا لها علاقات قوية مع النظام السوري ولا ترى بنفس المنظور طبيعة الازمة السورية، واذا استعملت الفيتو بمجلس الامن لعرقلة القرار فعليها ان تتحمل مسؤوليتها.
January 31st, 2012, 10:32 am
zoo said:
رئيس المفوضية الدولية لحقوق الإنسان: كل ما يشاع في وسائل الإعلام عن سورية أبعد ما يكون عن الحقيقة
الثلاثاء 31-01-2012
بيروت..
أكد رئيس المفوضية الدولية لحقوق الانسان محمد شهيد أمين خان أنه ومن خلال تحققه بنفسه سواء عن طريق سفراء المفوضية أو عن طريق المنظمات التي تعنى بحقوق الانسان عن الوضع في سورية فإن كل ما يشاع في وسائل الإعلام هو أبعد ما يكون عن الحقيقة على أرض الواقع مشددا على وجود أسلحة في أيدي جماعات غير معروفة ترتكب الجرائم وترهب الناس بينما تقوم وسائل الإعلام بتشويه الحقيقة لإظهار السلطات السورية بصورة سلبية.
ولفت أمين خان خلال لقائه سفير سورية في لبنان علي عبد الكريم في مقر السفارة في بيروت امس برفقة وفد يضم رئيس البرلمان الدولي للأمن والسلام سيلسو نيفيس ونائبه فريدرمان كاردونا وسفير المنظمة الدولية لحقوق الانسان وعضو البرلمان الدولي للأمن والسلام هيثم أبو سعيد إلى ضرورة توضيح الصورة الحقيقية لما يجري في سورية في لقاءات دولية عالية المستوى وخصوصا أنها تتعرض لمؤامرة تستهدف وحدتها الوطنية ودورها المحوري في المنطقة مشيرا إلى أن كل ما يحدث في سورية حاليا سببه المواقف الداعمة التي تتبناها سورية والرئيس بشار الأسد للقضية والحقوق الفلسطينية.
بدوره أكد السفير عبد الكريم أن المؤامرة التي تتعرض لها سورية باتت واضحة للجميع مشددا على أن سورية ستبقى قوية بجيشها وشعبها وبالإصلاحات التي أنجزت ويتم انجازها.
http://www.champress.net/index.php?q=ar/Article/view/112058
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January 31st, 2012, 10:34 am
Revlon said:
The Russian Regime is an accomplice to the crimes against humanity against Syrians.
The Russians’ only hope for maintaining their economical and military interests in Syria is to force the persistence of the military and security establishment.
Alas, for the Russians, future policies of Syria shall be dictated by the ground forces, never mind what NCB wishes or SNC promises.
To the revolution and FSA, the Russian regime is an accomplice in the crimes against humanity committed by the Syrian counterpart against unarmed civilians and soldiers who refused to kill their civilian brethren.
Since Russia’s veto in the SC a few months back the regime has been empowered to kill thousands of unarmed civilians, including women and children that could have been potentially saved by enforcing the safe zones.
Their upped supply of weapons has enabled the Syrian regime to kill more Syrian people.
Russia’s interests were made to advance over Syrian People’s lives.
Rising Syrians shall not cut deals with the arms dealer of their tormenter.
Russian Regime’s days in Syria are numbered.
January 31st, 2012, 10:37 am
jad said:
What is the GCC up to in Syria?
By Pepe Escobar
So the Arab League has a new draft United Nations Security Council resolution to “solve” the Syrian saga. [ 1]
World public opinion may be fooled into believing this is an altruistic Arab solution to an Arab problem. Not really.
{…}
“Sounds very civilized – except that it masquerades the real agenda of UN-imposed regime change. A quick look at the draft resolution also reveals a two-week deadline for Assad to get out of Dodge; if not, expect hell, “in consultation” with the Arab League.
“Arab” League is now a fiction; what’s really in charge is the Arab Gulf league, or GCC league; in practice, the House of Saud. Even aspiring regional superpower Qatar plays second fiddle. And everyone else, they are just extras.
So here we have the House of Saud and its Gulf minions detailing a road map for regime change followed by full Western parliamentary democracy, and places like the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Kuwait defending human rights in Arab lands. It’s as if this whole thing was a joint plan concocted by dadaist Tristan Tzara and surrealist Andre Breton with a Monty Python twist. ”
{…}
“BRICS member Russia – which alongside China had already vetoed a previous Western-redacted resolution – has already buried this one. For starters, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov couldn’t understand why the Arab League suspended its monitoring mission in Syria this past Saturday. Instead, Lavrov would “support an increased number of observers”.
Russia – which in no time learned the lessons of the open-ended UN resolution on Libya – has its own draft resolution which, according to Russian UN ambassador Vitaly Churkin, privileges a “Syrian-led political process”, not “an Arab League-imposed outcome of a political process that has not yet taken place”, or, worse yet, “regime change” a la Libya.
Russia – unlike the West – ascribes the now non-stop violence in Syria to both the Assad regime and the “rebels”. Even the GCC League has somewhat admitted that there are shabbihah (armed goons) on both sides, those on the “rebel” side affiliated with the already discredited Free Syrian Army. ”
{…}
“The objectives are vast; exercising total control over any Arab Spring-related transition (as in the case of Yemen); preventing any changes to the status quo (as in pre-emption in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morocco); outright repression (as in the case of Bahrain); and preferably getting their cake and eating it too (as in the case of Libya).
But Syria is infinitely more complex; because of the Iranian connection; because BRICS members Russia and China will block any regime change scheme; because there have been no significant cracks among the Syrian military; and because the Assad regime is expert in navigating the divisions between a Sunni majority and the Alawite minority. ”
{…}
“Even the venerable stones in the Umayyad mosque in Damascus know that the Syrian National Council (conveniently exiled in NATO members Turkey and France) is being financed by the House of Saud and Qatar. So expect more GCC-financed weapons to continue raising hell in Syria – now even in some Damascus suburbs. No wonder the GCC League had to pull out its “monitors”; they would have to roundly denounce the very people they are arming.
Even the Playstation King of Jordan – who was the first Arab potentate on the record to want to topple Assad (no wonder Jordan was invited to be a GCC member) – has been forced to admit, “I don’t see Syria going through many changes.” King Abdullah at least had the good sense to observe, “It’s a very complicated puzzle and there is no simple solution. If you can imagine Iraq being a simple solution … and it’s different in Libya, so it has everybody stumped and I don’t think anybody has a clear answer on what to do about Syria.”
By the way, there are pro-democracy protests in GCC-addicted Jordan virtually every day; but not a peep will be heard about it in Western corporate media. “Liberated” Libya totally disappeared from the Western triumphalist narrative – even as Amnesty International now has evidence of systematic torture in makeshift mini-gulags, and Medicines sans Frontiers (MSF) decided to leave Misrata for good after being asked by those formerly known as “rebels” to treat victims of torture, so they could be tortured again.
Which leads us to the ghastly equivalence between the “transitional councils” in both Libya and Syria. Their undisguised masters were – and are – NATOGCC. Russia may have its own agenda in Syria, but at least the Russians know hardcore violence is being served as much by the Assad regime as by the Syrian National Council and the Free Syria Army.
King Playstation at least got one thing right; no one has a clue on what to do about Syria. So it’s Assad on one side against NATOGCC on the other, with average Syrians – covering a wide spectrum of opinion – squeezed in the middle. Rumors swirl about a possible plan C; a bazaar-style deal, over endless cups of green tea, between Assad and the House of Saud. That’s unlikely; the GCC League wants the whole tray of sweets – and to eat them too. ”
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NA31Ak04.html#.TygKgyoeOV4.facebook
January 31st, 2012, 10:45 am
Aldendeshe said:
Do you know where can I buy MALBAN HALABI? I need it for upcoming wedding party between Majdkhaldoon and ANN.
January 31st, 2012, 10:50 am
Revlon said:
الرستن 28 1 2012 بيان الجيش الحر أثناء العملية
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM_sEf56URs
Uploaded by AljizahNews on Jan 28, 2012
FSA fighter shows the extent of destruction by heavy tank shelling by outlawed Assad forces to residential and business properties in Rastan.
He announces the destruction of 7 armored vehicles and Tanks of outlawed Assad forces.
January 31st, 2012, 10:53 am
majedkhaldoun said:
AlDendashi
Me marrying Ann? Yak,I do not deserve this torture
January 31st, 2012, 11:00 am
Revlon said:
رضوان زيادة
Radwan Ziyadeh, New York
31/01/2012
نيويورك- رضوان زيادة- المجلس الوطني السوريhttp://www.facebook.com/TheSyrianNationalCouncil
اليوم كانت لنا ضمن وفد المجلس الوطني لقاءات مكثفة مع مندوبي الدول الدائمين في مجلس الأمن حيث التقينا مع المندوب الروسي السفير شوركين ثم السفيرة الامريكية رايس بعدها مع السفيرين البريطاني والفرنسي في محاولة للضغط لإمرار مشروع القرار للأسف لا استطيع القول اننا متفائل ون كثيرا فهناك تهديد روسي حقيقي باستخدام الفيتو بالرغم مما يجري من مجازر يومية في ريف دمشق وخاصة رنكوس وحمص وحماة مما نأمله ان تكون جلسة الأمن اليوم بحضور نبيل العربي ووزير الخارجية القطري فرصة أخيرة للضغط على روسيا لتغيير موقفها حيث سيحضر الجلسة وزراء خارجية امريكا وبريطانيا وفرنسا وغيرهم من أجل ممارسة كل الضغوط الممكنة على روسيا بعدها اي يوم الأربعاء ستكون هناك جلسة للمجلس على مستوى سفراء الدول للمفاوضات النهائية وغالبا سيكون هناك تصويت على مشروع القرار اما الخميس او الجمعة نريد التصويت هذا الاسبوع بكل الأشكال لان روسيا تتعرض لأكبر ضغوط
وبعدها اذا ما استمرت روسيا في موقفها في استخدام الفيتو لن يكون لنا إلا ان ننزع نظامنا المجرم بأيدينا ووحدنا
Should the Russians veto we shal extricate the regime ourselves, with our own hands.
See Translation
26 minutes ago
January 31st, 2012, 11:04 am
jad said:
It seems that a new version of the resolution is in the UN discussion
“تقديم مسودة جديدة لمشروع قرار بشأن سوريا في مجلس الأمن”.
Bronco,
Have you notice that France is in the back seat regarding the resolution, though it was the one who asked Morocco to presented? Why is that?
Even Jupee today he wasn’t as usual ‘wild’ he was more reserved and even defensive in his statement:
جوبيه يستبعد أي لجوء للقوة في سوريا ويحذر من حرب أهلية
استبعد وزير الخارجية الفرنسية ألان جوبيه أي لجوء إلى القوة في سوريا، محذراً من أن أي تدخّل خارجي في هذا البلد قد يقود إلى حرب أهلية.
وأشار جوبيه في حديث لـ محطة “أوروبا 1” الى ان “الأمور في سوريا تختلف عمّا حدث في ليبيا”، مضيفاً انه “على سبيل المثال في سوريا، هناك طوائف متعارضة وأي تدخل خارجي يمكن أن يؤدي إلى حرب أهلية”.
ورداً على سؤال عمّا إذا كانت هناك فرصة جديدة بأن “تتحرك” الأمور، أجاب “لست متأكداً للأسف. ما يحدث في سوريا فضيحة حقيقية ومنذ أشهر تستمر المذبحة رغم وجود المراقبين العرب الذين انسحبوا مؤخراً وهناك عشرات بل مئات القتلى أسبوعياً وهو أمر غير مقبول”.
وعن الوضع في مجلس الأمن، قال جوبيه: “نحن عالقون بسبب موقف عدد من الدول وخصوصاً روسيا التي تعارض مشروع القرار”، غير أنه تعهد ببذل كل الجهود الممكنة للوصول إلى وقف العنف في سوريا.
ونفى جوبيه، أن تكون بلاده تزود المعارضين السوريين بالأسلحة، وقال رداً على سؤال عن مصدر الأسلحة في يد ما يعرف بالجيش السوري الحر: إن “تهريب السلاح هو للأسف ظاهرة عالمية. وأقول للأسف لأننا لا نؤيد العنف”.
And now Turkey is barking at Russia through ‘twitter’…Saad has ‘followers’
كبير مستشاري اردوغان ينتقد روسيا بسبب مواقفها حيال سوريا
انتقد إبراهيم كاليم كبير مستشاري رئيس الوزراء التركي رجب طيب اردوغان، روسيا لمواقفها حيال سوريا وشدد على ان روسيا تبعد نفسها عن العالم الاسلامي.
ولفت كاليم على صفحته على ” تويتر” أن “روسيا تحول العالم العربي والاسلامي ضدها بحجة حماية مصالحها في سوريا”.
January 31st, 2012, 11:08 am
jad said:
“وبعدها اذا ما استمرت روسيا في موقفها في استخدام الفيتو لن يكون لنا إلا ان ننزع نظامنا المجرم بأيدينا ووحدنا
Should the Russians veto we shal extricate the regime ourselves, with our own hands.”
What was Zibaleh and his terrorist friends doing all this time then? Kidnapping, Hanging, Slaughtering, Bombing, Shooting, Shelling, Spreading Sectarianism!!! what was all that about then. What a freak!
What more does this Zibaleh needs…Oh I see, he wants the NATO…..”ta3a l3na ya nato”….
With a new updated resolution that takes all Russia concern and without any threat whatsoever and without any sanctions or a forced regime change, Russia wont Veto and the resolution will be adopted…so…what next!?…NEGOTIATIONS…
January 31st, 2012, 11:14 am
Revlon said:
حوار / «الموقف السعودي يقوّي ثورة الشعب… والمملكة خبيرة بالنظام السوري»
Saudi stance empowers the people’s Revolution; The Kingdom is expert in Syrian Regimematters.
صبرا لـ «الراي»: دول مجلس التعاون تستطيع لعب دور في تعديل السياسة الروسية
George Sabra to AlRai news Paper: GCC can play a role in tempering Russian foreign policy.
30/01/2012
http://www.facebook.com/TheSyrianNationalCouncil#!/photo.php?fbid=274918579242281&set=pu.201934369874036&type=1&theater
حوار / «الموقف السعودي يقوّي ثورة الشعب… والمملكة خبيرة بالنظام السوري»
صبرا لـ «الراي»: دول مجلس التعاون تستطيع لعب دور في تعديل السياسة الروسية
أكد عضو الأمانة العامة للمجلس الوطني السوري والقيادي في حزب الشعب الديموقراطي جورج صبرا ضرورة «تمكين مجلس الأمن من اجتياز الفيتو الروسي لحفظ أمان السوريين وحقهم في الحرية والكرامة»، مشيراً إلى أن المجلس «أقام اتصالات مع أطراف من المعارضة الروسية».
ودعا صبرا الموجود حالياً في فرنسا موسكو إلى «أن تضع في حساباتها معاناة الشعب السوري المستمرة منذ نحو عام»، مشدداً على أهمية دول مجلس التعاون الخليجي «في لعب دور مميز لتعديل السياسة الروسية ومواقفها»، ومنوهاً بالموقف السعودي «المتضامن مع الشعب السوري وقضاياه المصيرية».
«الراي» اتصلت بصبرا وأجرت معه الحوار الآتي:
• عشية طرح مشروع قرار حول سورية في مجلس الأمن، كيف تقارب الرفض الروسي لمشروع القرار الغربي – العربي؟ وهل ثمة معطيات يمكن أن تؤدي إلى تعديل موسكو لموقفها بما يضمن إمرار القانون؟
– إذا لم تكن هذه المعطيات موجودة، فيجب أن تتوافر، وإلا فما معنى السياسة، وأي دور يبقى لها؟ إننا في المجلس الوطني السوري نعلق آمالاً كبيرة على دور جامعة الدول العربية وعلى الدول العربية فرادى ومجتمعة وخصوصاً دول مجلس التعاون الخليجي، في لعب دور مميز لتعديل موقع السياسة الروسية ومواقفها. دون أن نتغاضى عن الدور الكبير المنوط بالمجتمع الدولي وقواه الفاعلة كالولايات المتحدة وأوروبا في مهمة كهذه. إنها مسؤولية أممية سياسية وإنسانية في الوقت نفسه. لا بد من فتح مجلس الأمن الدولي لاتخاذ قرارات تحمي الشعب السوري من عمليات القتل اليومي المستمرة منذ أحد عشر شهرا متواصلاً.
• المبادرة العربية التي تبناها مشروع القرار الغربي طالبت بتنحي الرئيس بشار الأسد. هل الاتصالات الأميركية – الروسية يمكن أن تؤدي إلى تخطي هذه الثغرة تحديداً؟
– مَن يستطيع أن يتخيل رئيساً يستمر على رأس السلطة في بلاد أوقع فيها هذا الحجم من المجازر الجماعية والجرائم ضد الإنسانية؟ وما زال حتى اليوم يستمر نظامه باتهام شعبه بالضلوع في مؤامرة دولية، وكذلك لم يتوان عن اتهام الدول العربية بالمشاركة في ما يسميه المؤامرات الخارجية عليه. نأمل أن تضع السياسة الروسية في حساباتها الشعب السوري ومعاناته المستمرة منذ نحو عام، فالسوريون يتعرضون لقتل يومي، ويعانون منذ خمسة عقود من نظام قمعي واستبدادي وإرهابي، حوّل حياتهم جحيماً وحوّل سورية مملكة للخوف والموت. ونشدّد على ضرورة بذل ما يتوافر من جهود لتمكين مجلس الأمن من اجتياز الفيتو الروسي لحفظ أمان السوريين وحقهم في الحرية والكرامة، وحفظ الأمن والسلام الإقليمي والدولي.
• كقيادي في حزب الشعب الديموقراطي السوري، هل لديكم اتصالات مع القيادة الروسية؟ وهل نقلتم وجهة نظركم عن الأزمة السورية إلى موسكو؟
– أقمنا باسم المجلس الوطني اتصالات مع منظمات المجتمع المدني الروسية، ومع الكنيسة الروسية ذات الأهمية الخاصة والدور التاريخي، ومع أطراف من المعارضة يمكن أن تهتمّ بالسياسة الروسية الدولية. غير أن هذا الشكل من التواصل ما زال في مرحلته الجنينية، ونأمل أن يتطور لما فيه خير الشعبين والدولتين الآن وفي المستقبل. وسنستمر في بذل الجهود المطلوبة، فقضيتنا مهمة وخطيرة، وثورة شعبنا تستحق العناء والتجاوب وبذل الجهود.
• عدد الضحايا في سورية يرتفع بشكل ملحوظ منذ أن قرر النظام المضي في الحسم الأمني ومنذ أن حددت جامعة الدول العربية خريطة طريق للأزمة السورية. إلى ماذا سيؤدي الخيار الذي اتخذه النظام في الحسم الأمني؟
– يعتقد النظام أنه يتمتع هذه الأيام بمهلة واقعية تعطيه إياها العطالة المؤقتة للمشاريع السياسية. فقد أوقف برفضه، المبادرات العربية، وما زالت السياسة الروسية الحليفة له تعطّل مجلس الأمن وتحول دون صدور ما يشجب أعمال النظام ويعمل على وقفها. والخوف الكبير أن يقود عنف النظام الأعمى والمنفلت من أي قيود إلى أخذ سورية إلى حافة جديدة من الخطر، تؤثر على الوحدة الوطنية للشعب والسلم الأهلي لأن النظام يفتعل معارك جانبية ويقوم بارتكابات ذات صبغة طائفية تستهدف جر الأطراف الشعبية إلى الردّ بنفس الوسيلة، لتشويه سمعة الثورة وجرها إلى منزلق أبت أن تسقط فيه طوال عمر الثورة. وبالتالي سيكون ذلك خطراً ليس على سورية والسوريين فحسب، إنما على مجمل الأمن والاستقرار في المنطقة.
• أعربت بعض القيادات في المجلس الوطني السوري عن استعدادها لتقديم المال والمعدات لـ «الجيش السوري الحر». ما رأيك في ذلك؟ وهل تتخوف من مساهمة حركة الانشقاقات في اندلاع حرب أهلية؟
– المجلس الوطني يدعم الجيش السوري الحر كونه من مرتكزات الثورة السورية، ويلعب دوراً مهماً في استمرار الثورة والحفاظ على سلميتها. الدعم سيكون سياسياً ومادياً ولوجستياً لتغطية الحاجات اليومية للجنود والناس المحيطين بهم. حركة الانشقاقات عن النظام ستزداد، وعلى عكس ما يتخيل البعض سيكون ذلك عنصر ضمان ضد أي شكل من الحرب الأهلية. لأنه يحمي الشعب والمتظاهرين من أعمال القتل، ويحول دون أن تخرج البنادق عن آليات الضبط والربط لمصلحة الثورة وبإدارة قواها، وبخدمة الخط السياسي للثورة ومن أجل تحقيق أهدافها. وهو جيش لكل السوريين دون استثناء ودون تمييز.
• إلى أين ستتجه الأزمة السورية في حال أصرت موسكو على خيارها بدعم النظام السوري؟
– في الداخل ستتجه نحو الحسم والاعتماد على الله وعلى القوى الذاتية للشعب من قوى الثورة، ونحو مزيد من الدموية والإجرام من النظام. وعلى الصعيدين العربي والدولي، فليتحمل المسؤولون عن تعطيل الحلول وزر الدم السوري المراق اليوم ومواقف الشعب السوري الغاضبة في المستقبل.
• كيف تقارب الموقف السعودي الجديد من الأزمة السورية؟
– ليس غريباً علينا الموقف السعودي المتضامن مع الشعب السوري وقضاياه المصيرية. والمملكة التي تتحمل مسؤوليات خاصة ليس في منطقة الخليج وحدها وإنما في العالم العربي من أقصاه إلى أقصاه، خبيرة جداً بالنظام السوري، وقد عانت طويلاً من العلاقة الصعبة معه. ونعتقد أن الموقف السعودي يقوي موقف الشعب وثورته سياسياً في الجامعة العربية وفي الأمم المتحدة وباتجاه تعزيز المجلس الوطني أيضاً. دون أن نهمل الدور السعودي المرتقب والمميز بشأن جهود الإغاثة المطلوبة للمدن السورية المنكوبة بفعل الحرب المعلنة على الشعب في مختلف المحافظات السورية. باختصار هو تقدم ملموس ودفعة طيبة النتائج لملف الثورة السورية والقضايا التي تطرحها.
• هل سحب الوفود الخليجية من بعثة المراقبين العرب يعني أن دول الخليج حسمت موقفها بضرورة ذهاب النظام السوري؟
– هو ذلك في أحد وجوهه الواضحة. وتبدى ذلك بوضوح من خلال المبادرة العربية التي رفضها النظام وتنص على تخلي رأس النظام عن صلاحياته لنائبه من أجل تسهيل التعامل مع النظام وترتيب أمور الحل. وفي ذلك اعتراف ضمني بأن النظام كما هو عليه الآن لا يصلح للعلاقة. ومَن كان من أسباب الأزمة لا يكون من عوامل الحل. ويشير كذلك إلى أن مهمة المراقبين وصلت إلى نهايتها وأوفت بأغراضها، فكل شيء صار واضحاً بالنسبة إلى ما يجري داخل سورية.
• هل صحيح ما أشارت إليه بعض التقارير بأنك من الممكن أن تأتي رئيساً للمجلس الوطني السوري بعد برهان غليون الذي ستنتهي ولايته في 15 فبراير؟
– ما هو أكثر أهمية ممن يأتي رئيساً للمجلس، هو الوقفة الجدية المطلوبة من هيئات المجلس ومؤسساته ومكاتبه. المشكلة ليست في مَن يحتل موقع الرئاسة، بل في كيفية إدارة الأمور والطريقة التي تُتخذ فيها القرارات ويجري تنفيذها. والمسؤولية في ذلك تتجاوز موقع الرئاسة لتطال الجميع في الأمانة العامة والمكتب التنفيذي. المطلوب نهج جديد وطرق عمل جديدة وإيقاع جديد يتناسب مع متطلبات المرحلة وحاجات الداخل السوري. يتم اختيار رئيس المجلس بشكل توافقي بين المكونات السياسية للمجلس، فالجميع مرشحون، ومَن يحصل على هذه التوافقات ببساطة سيكون رئيساً للمجلس. هذا هو التوافق من البداية وما تنصّ عليه اللائحة الداخلية لعمله.
January 31st, 2012, 11:20 am
ann said:
Clinton Snubbed by Russian Counterpart – January 31, 2012
http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2012/01/31/clinton-snubbed-by-russian-counterpart/
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is a hard man to reach these days—especially if you’re Hillary Clinton.
The U.S. Secretary of State tried for twenty-four hours to get Mr. Lavrov on the phone to discuss a draft resolution on Syria, with no luck, according to the transcript of a State Department briefing.
Britain, France and the U.S. plan to make their strongest effort yet to push through a draft resolution calling for Syrian President Bashir Assad’s resignation. At least 5,400 people have been killed in the country’s 10-month long crackdown on protestors.
Mr. Lavrov, who was in Australia when Mrs. Clinton was trying to reach him, has a perfectly good explanation: He was too busy to take the call.
Mrs. Clinton’s phone call came “at the height of meetings with our Australian partners,” Russian news agencies quoted him as saying. “It is not in the Russian diplomatic tradition … to offend those with whom we have had long-scheduled meetings.”
Mr. Lavrov appeared to disparage the State Department’s notions of etiquette when asked why the State Department said it couldn’t reach him for so long.
“Probably, it is a question of manners,” he said.
The conversation with Mrs. Clinton will take place “at the first possible opportunity,” Mr. Lavrov said.
But he also hinted that such things may be better resolved at a lower level.
“Basically, the ambassadors are sitting there in a room and reviewing the text. To call the other end of the world in order to discuss the placement of commas and such may not be the best method,” Mr. Lavrov said.
He said Tuesday that while Russia was “neither a friend nor an ally” to Syria, Moscow would not support calls for President Assad’s ouster.
January 31st, 2012, 11:23 am
Tara said:
Bronco
I see it the other way around. If a UNSC resolution is passed in the next few days, it will drastically weaken Bashar al Assad’s position who will be then inclined to agree to peaceful transition of power under the supervision of his VP. This would
ensure the preservation of worthy institutions.
If on the other hand, Russia vetoes the resolution, a civil war is inevitable as the Syrian people have already reached a point where their revolution can no longer be “pacified” if you will. A civil war will end with the victory of the majority and the potential appearance of war lords who may crush their opposition.
Bashar al Assad must vanish from the picture if the Syrian unity be preserved.
January 31st, 2012, 11:26 am
Revlon said:
موقع أخبار الشرق – الثلاثاء، 31 كانون2/يناير 2012 04:21 بتوقيت دمشق
سورية اليوم – سياسة
http://www.levantnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10875:2012-01-31-02-21-52&catid=66:syria-politics&Itemid=118
دعا “اتحاد تنسيقيات الثورة السورية” الى انشاء “لجان شعبية محلية” لحماية المناطق السكنية، والى “استخدام كل الوسائل المتاحة للدفاع عن النفس من الابادة” التي يقوم بها النظام السوري في ظل “تخاذل” المجتمعين العربي والعالمي، بحسب ما جاء في بيان صادر عنه اليوم الاثنين.
Local Coordination Comittees call for establishment of Local Cmittees for self defense in the face of ongoing etermination by regime forces and watchful stance of international community.
Monday 31/01/2012
و”التنسيقيات” عبارة عن تجمعات محلية خاصة بكل منطقة في سوريا تنشط منذ بدء الاضطرابات في تنظيم الاحتجاجات على الارض ونقل ما يجري الى الخارج.
وجاء في البيان الذي تلقت وكالة فرانس برس نسخة منه “على جميع التنسيقيات تشكيل لجان شعبية محلية لحماية المناطق السكنية والحفاظ على الممتلكات العامة من هجمات العصابات الأسدية التي تنشر الفوضى في كل مكان”.
ورأى الاتحاد انه “بات من حق الشعب السوري الطبيعي مع كل هذا التخاذل العربي والدولي استخدام كل الوسائل المتاحة أمامه للدفاع عن نفسه أمام عمليات الابادة التي يتعرض لها على يد العصابات الأسدية”.
كما اكد ان “الجيش الحر هو الذراع العسكري للثورة السورية وعلى عاتقه تقع مهمة حماية المدن وحماية المظاهرات السلمية”.
FSA has become the military arm of the civilian Syrian Revolution.
وتحدث البيان عن “حملة عسكرية مسعورة تشنها عصابات الأسد على معظم المدن والمناطق السكنية العزلاء مستخدمة اقصى درجات الإجرام من قتل وتنكيل وقصف وقنص واعتقالات وفرض حظر للتجول ومحاصرة المدن واغلاقها”.
واضاف ان “المجتمع الدولي ومجلس الأمن والجامعة العربية اداروا ظهورهم لمعاناة الشعب السوري وأغمضوا عيونهم وجمدوا ضمائرهم عن عمليات الابادة التي تقوم بها يد الإجرام الأسدي”.
وتصاعدت خلال الساعات الماضية اعمال العنف في سوريا لا سيما في منطقة ريف دمشق واسفرت الاثنين عن سقوط 27 قتيلا على الاقل بينهم 21 مدنيا كما قال المرصد السوري لحقوق الانسان من لندن.
وناشد المجلس الوطني السوري المعارض في بيان وسائل الاعلام الدولية التحرك في اتجاه بلدة رنكوس (40 كلم شمال دمشق)، متخوفا من “مجزرة كبيرة” و”عملية تصفية يقوم بها النظام” بعد ان سيطر على البلدة.
January 31st, 2012, 11:32 am
jna said:
Should the Russians veto we shal extricate the regime ourselves, with our own hands.
It’s probably a bad translation but I doubt that “extricate the regime” is what he really meant.
January 31st, 2012, 11:49 am
Mina said:
SNC blacklisting “pro-regime” churches?
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/33319/World/Region/Syria-day-of-mourning-ahead-of-UN-showdown.aspx
“Ahead of the UN meeting on the Syrian crisis, the Syrian National Council urges mosques and churches to back the call for ‘day of mourning and anger’ with prayer calls and ringing bells across the country
AFP , Tuesday 31 Jan 2012”
As the guys who hijacked the Tahrir protests and made a career clash with the guys who made the revolution,
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/33365/Egypt/Politics-/Breaking-Brotherhood-supporters-clash-with-antiSCA.aspx
Ban Ki Moon’s sole idea is to send a prayer to God in heaven
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/33363/World/Region/UN-leader-calls-for-goodwill-gestures-by-Israel.aspx
“UN chief Ban Ki-moon calls for ‘goodwill gestures’ by Israel to revive the peace process with the Palestinians after meeting with Jordanian leaders
AFP , Tuesday 31 Jan 2012”
Allah yahdihum…
January 31st, 2012, 11:49 am
Aldendeshe said:
Well I am not marrying her, she is over 26, in women age, that is entering the Mezzo-Petrified period, where they just petrify the hell out of you daily, and Anthropologists at Harvard determined that this period extend until the next women shows up at the front door. But to whom it may concern, I got it, thanks.
January 31st, 2012, 12:04 pm
jad said:
Haytham Manna
قناة دبي الفضائية: الدكتور هيثم مناع
http://youtu.be/PInAhXqLsuk
re:“لجان شعبية محلية”
How much violence and blood those criminals want, isn’t it enough that we have too many armed militias already doing the killing and promoting violence some of them are Alqaeda followers to add more weapons and more military men and children to the already volatile situation…
Go to hell to whoever comes with such criminal plans of militarizing the whole society for no reason but to see more Syrian blood spelled.
January 31st, 2012, 12:20 pm
Revlon said:
A new Battalion arrived in Rastan today to support KIW Brigade
31/01/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wrxIERbDweg
الرستن 31 1 2012 بيان وصول كتيبة رجال الله المسقلة وأشقاق ضباط عدد2~1
January 31st, 2012, 12:21 pm
ann said:
*** DONKEYS OF ISRAEL DECLARING WAR ON IRAQ NOW 😀 ***
“Syria opposition” Warns Iraq Over Arms Shipment To Assad Forces
http://www.eurasiareview.com/31012012-syria-opposition-warns-iraq-over-arms-shipment-to-assad-forces/
The Iraqi government of Nouri al-Maliki has recently allowed the passage of Iranian arms through its territory to Syria in order to support the Syrian regime against its opponents, reports claim. Meanwhile, the Syrian opposition gave Maliki’s government two weeks to change its position before declaring it as a partner in the war against the Syrian people.
“the Organization for Rescuing Democratic Syria ” (a faction of the “Syrian opposition”) 😀
January 31st, 2012, 12:22 pm
Juergen said:
majed
i dont share each view when i post it. I do not like this old testamentarian view if you kill us we will kill you. i do think that at any stage we should not loose our humanity even for those who have shown no humanity to their victims. If youd asked me some months ago, i would have said let him and his junta be tried in Den Haag. Now I would say let him be tried in Syria under syrian law, i believe without knowing the syrian code of law high treason is punished with the death penalty. I dont know if Asmaa has done something worth to be tried, morally surely she is guilty. I am sure if Eva Braun the late wife of Hitler would have survived the war she would have faced imprisonment. They had and still may have the chance to leave the country, but if they stay and remain they are in danger.
January 31st, 2012, 12:25 pm
Juergen said:
I wonder what that is to name each other donkeys and dogs (Edited for personal attack)
January 31st, 2012, 12:26 pm
Mina said:
It makes things easier when you’re a member of the Saudi royal family. Could foreign journalists tell us what are these Saudis in Iraqi jails accused of? It seems like too dangerous to write…
Report: Saudi Arabia seeks swap for royals on Iraqi death row
Jan 30, 2012, 9:05 GMT
Baghdad – Efforts to implement a Saudi-Iraqi prisoner exchange have taken on extra urgency after it became known that three people facing the death penalty in Iraq are members of the Saudi royal family.
Saudi Arabia has been pushing for the exchange of the six Saudi nationals, reported an Iraqi state-run newspaper on Monday.
Iraqi Lawmaker Kamila al-Moussawi told the al-Sabah newspaper that three of the six Saudi nationals currently on death row are members of the royal family.
Saudi Arabia’s royalty, the Al Saud family, is composed of thousands of members, though power rests with descendants of Saudi Arabia’s founder, King Abdul-Aziz.
‘Saudi Arabia seeks a deal with the Iraqi government to exchange them with convicted Iraqis inside the kingdom,’ said al-Moussawi, of the National Alliance, led by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
Al-Moussawi’s announcement came a few days after Saudi newspaper Al Eqtisadiya reported that the proposed deal would cover 113 Saudi prisoners in Iraq, including six on death row, and 138 Iraqi prisoners in Saudi Arabia, of whom 11 are facing execution.
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/news/article_1688065.php/Report-Saudi-Arabia-seeks-swap-for-royals-on-Iraqi-death-row
January 31st, 2012, 12:28 pm
ann said:
*** US spy chief says Syria’s Assad will die of old age 😀 ***
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL2E8CVBIB20120131
“I personally believe it’s a question of time before Assad falls, but that’s the issue, it could be a long time,” Clapper said at a Senate intelligence committee hearing.
January 31st, 2012, 12:29 pm
ann said:
Give Syrians a say – Jan 31, 2012
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012/01/31/65041534.html
It’s up to Syrians themselves to decide whether Bashar Assad should go or stay. Western pressure on Syrians in matters concerning their country’s future is inadmissible. That’s how Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov commented on a statement by the Syrian opposition abroad, which demands President Bashar Assad’s resignation as a precondition for entering talks with Damascus.
On Monday, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced that the Syrian government had accepted an invitation to hold talks with Syrian opposition representatives in Moscow. A similar invitation had been sent to the Paris-based Syrian National Council (SNC), a leading Syrian opposition group outside Syria. On Tuesday, the Lebanese An-Nahar newspaper published an interview with SNC leader Burhan Ghalioun, who says that there will be no talks unless Assad steps down and that only if Moscow changes its stance on the issue will the SNC send its delegation to the Russian capital.
The SNC’s reply caught Sergei Lavrov in Sidney. Commenting on the SNC leader’s statement, he pointed out that Russia had never demanded that power should remain exclusively in Bashar Assad’s hands and that there were other things that kept worrying Moscow.
“The refusal to sit down for talks with representatives of the regime. What is the alternative to finishing off the regime? If one urges Assad to go and he fails to do so, what should one do – bring aircraft in and bomb? We have already seen that. And I assure you that the UN Security Council will never approve it. One should approach this a bit more realistically. Unfortunately, the opposition sticks to a different stance some outside players have been pushing it towards.”
UN sources claim that more than 5,000 people have been killed in clashes between Syrian government forces and opposition protesters since last March. The government says that Syrian soldiers and policemen account for a large number of the deaths. Ongoing clashes have prompted the League of Arab States (LAS) to suspend its observer mission in Syria. Earlier, the League called on Bashar Assad to resign and hand over power to a transitional government. But Damascus predictably rejected the offer.
If the West and the Syrian opposition really want peace in Syria, their persistence in urging the president to step down hardly makes any sense. Bashar Assad is implementing reforms as he had promised earlier, and considering the date for early elections, analyst for the Institute of Oriental Studies at the Russian Academy of Sciences, Alexander Filonik, said in an interview with the VoR:
“The crisis in Syria will remain unsettled until members of the radical opposition, who are staying outside Syria, revise their attitude to Bashar Assad. Actually, their demands are absolutely ungrounded: since the regime is quite legitimate, it is backed by the majority of the Syrian population. Probably, Assad`s independent policy annoys somebody in Europe, in US or in some Arab countries.”
Later on Tuesday the UNSC is expected to discuss a draft resolution endorsing the Arab League plan, which calls for President al-Assad to step aside as a way to resolve the crisis. Previous drafts were vetoed by Russia and China. Moscow opposes the new version as well, saying that it won`t help the opposing sides reach a compromise, while lobbying this resolution might just leave Syria on the brink of a civil war.
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January 31st, 2012, 12:34 pm
Revlon said:
Khaled Aboud to Addunia:
– Scores of Qatari targets/Factories shall not escape Syrian missile strikes.
– Certain US-sponsered Qatari factories are within range of Syrian missiles. This is the earthquacke that B Assad talked about a while ago!
المجنون خالد عبود يهدد دولة قطر بقصف معاملها بالصواريخ السورية الموجهة اليها
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJtb-PkUkkY&feature=youtu.be
The regime is losing it big!
January 31st, 2012, 12:39 pm
Revlon said:
658. jna:
((Should the Russians veto we shal extricate the regime ourselves, with our own hands.
It’s probably a bad translation but I doubt that “extricate the regime” is what he really meant))
You are right!
I meant extract!
Like a decayed tooth!
Thank you for the note.
January 31st, 2012, 12:48 pm
Aldendeshe said:
@662. jad :
Blame Bashar Assad, not the one that are seeking own freedom from serfdom to a Socialist mafia. These people have nothing to lose at all, the (Edited for sectarian comments) and Baath driven them to this bottom line option and desperation, death is even better than living in a hell called Baathist Syria. Bashar is not a National Leader, he has proven to be a puppet for a mafia that driven Syria to eaquate with Somalia.
January 31st, 2012, 12:55 pm
Aldendeshe said:
“….It’s up to Syrians themselves to decide whether Bashar Assad should go or stay. Western pressure on Syrians in matters concerning their country’s future is inadmissible….”
I am for 2 hands and 2 feets up for that, lets have a U.N. resolution passing and monitored to insure fair vote.
January 31st, 2012, 1:02 pm
Mina said:
Ban Ki Moon could learn something from reading Fisk’s articles:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-present-stands-no-chance-against-the-past-6295957.html
January 31st, 2012, 1:02 pm
ann said:
673. Aldendeshe said:
“….It’s up to Syrians themselves to decide whether Bashar Assad should go or stay. Western pressure on Syrians in matters concerning their country’s future is inadmissible….”
I am for 2 hands and 2 feets up for that, lets have a U.N. resolution passing and monitored to insure fair vote.
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UN election monitors don’t need a UN Security Council resolution to monitor and insure fair elections in Syria
Welcome back to real freedom and real democracy!
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January 31st, 2012, 1:10 pm
jad said:
Aldendeshe
My post wasn’t about ‘blame’ it was about taking the country toward chaos through ignorant or planned strategies. We can blame Bashar as much as we want but we have to have the choice not to follow the wrong way.
The call to burn down the whole country and destroy our social fabric and our Syrian diversity through killing each others and make Syria another failed state as those idiots are asking, is wrong.
While on it, may I ask you a personal favor, could you please tone down your sectarian language against Shia, why not to use the country name instead of demonizing the whole sect, that is not what we need right now. No?
January 31st, 2012, 1:10 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Aldendeshe
No one will marry (Edited for personal attack)
Juergen
“morally surely she is guilty”
I don’t agree,she is (Edited for personal attack, hateful language)
January 31st, 2012, 1:18 pm
Son of Damascus said:
Revlon,
The use of the word extricate is correct in your sentence.
According to the Oxford dictionary the definition is:
Free from constraint or difficulty.
In every sense of the word Besho and co. are a constraint that needs to be extricated.
January 31st, 2012, 1:19 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Where is Farouk al Sharaa?
If you saw him during the last 11 months, please raise your hand.
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January 31st, 2012, 1:23 pm
ann said:
648. Aldendeshe said:
Do you know where can I buy MALBAN HALABI? I need it for upcoming wedding party between Majdkhaldoon and ANN.
650. majedkhaldoun said:
AlDendashi
Me marrying Ann? Yak,I do not deserve this torture
676. majedkhaldoun said:
Aldendeshe
No one will marry her, when I think of her I have a picture of Dracula,big teeth in a big thin mouth,long sharp nose, and huge ears,with her hands up and sharp long nail.she talk about donkey,rat and ghoul……I will have nightmares tonight.
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I understand and respect (Edited for personal attack)
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January 31st, 2012, 1:24 pm
Juergen said:
I think a moderator should edit what Ann just said to Aldenshe.
Amir
I know a niece of him with the same family name here in Berlin. I will ask her where he is, some rumors occured that he is with the revolution, but i think that is just wishful thinking.
Majed
I respect that you think she is innocent and a bird in the cage, after all the atrocities this regime has done( and many we dont kn ow of yet) i am sure the word innocence is not suitable even for her, but surely for the children.
But if you spare her out of the dirty game, why not Besho himself? Its kind of this game they always play, in this case if only Asmaa would know what is going on here… to me its an idolisation of her.
January 31st, 2012, 1:39 pm
jad said:
ANN
It seems that your GAY comment hit a nerve, the irony is that Jurgen comments today have one theme, let’s attack Asma and call for her execution out of ‘humanitarian’ reasons.
January 31st, 2012, 1:55 pm
irritated said:
Jad
The warmongering commenters are so frustrated that they have to attack personally someone to relieve their tensions. Asma, Ann are now the targets of their nasty comments.
It shows very well the quality of the people who wants to take the power in Syria: Merciless, misogynous and sadistic.
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January 31st, 2012, 2:05 pm
irritated said:
#668 Juergen
Now Asma al Assad is Eva Braun, and Bashar is Hitler!
Typical (Edited for racist comments and personal attack. Please refer to the Syria Comment Rules)
January 31st, 2012, 2:10 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Juergen
Even Bashar i do not call for his execution, I believe he has to return ALL the money he stole from Syrians, and I dont believe in jail either,humilliation all the rest of his life is enough, only God has the right to take life away.
January 31st, 2012, 2:12 pm
ann said:
685. jad said:
ANN
It seems that your comment hit a nerve, the irony is that Jurgen comments today have one theme, let’s attack Asma and and call for her execution out of ‘humanitarian’ reasons.
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They see the writing on the wall and they don’t like it 😉
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January 31st, 2012, 2:12 pm
zoo said:
No more Israel travel for iraqis
Iraqi bill to ban travels to Israel
Iraqi parliament plans to pass bill forbidding locals from visiting Israel, after nine Iraqi politicians were allegedly caught carrying entry visas to Israel, passports with Ben-Gurion Airport stamps
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4182795,00.html
January 31st, 2012, 2:14 pm
jad said:
A strange statement by The UN Commission on Human Rights, it is asking the Syrian government to stop the killing and at the same time is asking for the opposition to be careful of not to ‘waste’ lives for no reason!! (Stay peaceful and avoid the army and the armed militias)
Regarding the victim numbers: the commission doesn’t update the numbers because they don’t have the ability to verify the numbers they are getting from 5-6 different organizations. (could that be related to the tainted Rami)
مفوضية حقوق الإنسان تحث السلطة السورية على وقف قتل المدنيين
حثّت المفوضية السامية لحقوق الإنسان التابعة للأمم المتحدة، السلطات السورية على وقف قتل المدنيين.
وحث المتحدث باسم مكتب المفوضة السامية روبرت كولفيل المعارضة على “الإلتزام بأقصى درجات الحيطة وضمان عدم وقوع قتلى من دون داعٍ”.
ورأى أن “الأوضاع على الأرض أصبح من الصعب التحقق منها خلال الأسابيع الأخيرة لذلك توقفنا عن تحديث أرقام الضحايا، ليس لوجود شكوك لدينا عن إستمرار وقوع أعداد كبيرة من الضحايا، وإنما لأننا لسنا في موضع يمكننا من التحقق من القوائم التي تضعها 5 أو 6 منظمات مختلفة”.
January 31st, 2012, 2:23 pm
Juergen said:
Majed
I agree if he is sent to Saudi Arabia or Iran, that would be humiliation enough. But i am afraid they will make the deal and let him live in a townhouse in London as Rfiaat. I want him to held responsible as any one else who has committed crimes and that would include also opposition members. I just dont see a reason why he leave his money ( if not he has it bunkered already in the VAE or elseswhere) and will be given amnesty. Why not treat him under syrian state law as anyone else. Thousands have been put in jail without an proper trial, so in this case he would even receive an special treatment.
For me there should be a novellation of the penal code in Syria, but tha t is up to the Syrians to decide that, we in germany have seized the death penalty after Hitler when you get hanged for hearing BBC on the radio.
Irritated
Well i dont compare evil, i see evil. For me the most pathetic thing would be to rate how evil one is, like was Hitler more evil than Assad? I think that there is nothing right in such regimes, just nothing.
January 31st, 2012, 2:38 pm
Aldendeshe said:
@ANN
“..UN election monitors don’t need a UN Security Council resolution to monitor and insure fair elections in Syria. Welcome back to real freedom and real democracy!…”
Oh commmmmon, where are you in LALA land, or on that planet with green skinned women only planet ( it does exist for a fact, no kidding)
Yeah …just the Mukhabrat bringing the voting boxes (filled) and manning the voting booth with Kalashnikov right… No need for U.N… Well, why need an election then, we know the outcome: 99.7% on favor of Assad and Baathism for life. Welcome to Assad real Democracy and real Freedom.
@JAD,
Don’t let it bother you, it is politic, you know me, I met aliens, and know of green skinned women only planet. You think I giva a hoop about man-made religions or people faith and skirt length.
(Edited for hateful sectarian comments. Please refer to Syria Comment Rules)
January 31st, 2012, 2:44 pm
Ales said:
Hitler was Austrian, fact Austrians are happy most have forgotten.
January 31st, 2012, 2:56 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Juergen
I believe Bashar should be tried, and I am sure he will be found guilty 10,000 time, and should get the punishment as stated by the syrian law,,and I agree he should get the punishment as other syrian get, but my heart cry everytime someone die.
January 31st, 2012, 2:58 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
According to FSA, yesterday an opperation against the chief of Air Intelligence, Jamil Hassan, was carried out in Damascus. One bodyduard died and Jamil Hassan taken to hospital.
نفذ الثوار السوريون، ليل امس عملية نوعية استهدفت رئيس المخابرات الجوية اللواء جميل حسن. وقد قتل في العملية التي حصلت في الطرف الشمالي من دمشق مرافق حسن فيما أصيب هو بجراح لم تعرف خطورتها بعد.
January 31st, 2012, 3:05 pm
jad said:
Aldendeshe
Thank you, I know what you mean when you write: “It is a political issue.”
My issue is that because of all this political games many Syrians are being killed for no reason and they are treated as another number to add on the bloody list of victims just to pay the bill for something different than what they died for. Syrian lives must be protected not to be wasted for any ‘political issue’, it’s not worth it.
January 31st, 2012, 3:08 pm
Hans said:
Israel is very quiet about the events in Syria, even it sides with it is northern border, anyone knows who Israel is supporting, is it sending weapon to the opposition or to Bashar!!!
I don’t believe Israel quiet calmness is an innocent one.
or they are letting the Americans play the dirty game for the benefit of Israel, as they sent all Americans soldiers to die in Iraq, all for the benefit of Israel, and at the end USA left Iraq with a kick in its ass. it is clear who writes the policy of the USA and who runs the state department, read the names
(Edited for racist, sectarian comments)
I don’t believe what I read or hear on TV’s regardless of the source the Europeans channels are more liars than the Arabic ones and the CNN is the lead devil, probably Al Jaziraa and the CNN are twins as they say two peas in a pod.
The opposition lost its credibility with the local population because of its association with the foreigners and the crimes they committed through the mercenaries they brought from foreign countries to kill syrians.
it is very hard for the opposition to win the heart and the souls of the syrians after all this killing they have done.
the syrian people don’t need the UN to tell them who is truly killing the innocent!!!
it is clear that the army is not targeting the innocent population in opposite to what the americans and the west trying to spread through its propaganda.
the devil hand filled with blood is taking over syria and no one will save Syrian but the Russian therefore i believe if russia sends troops to occupy syria while an free election can be held would be the best solution otherwise civil war is the answer and Israel can’t be happier than having civil war in Syria.
January 31st, 2012, 3:22 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Majdkhaldoon and Spammie Annie are tying the knot? Who wouldda thunk it? I can see it now. Majdkhaldoon with his attache case going off each morning to work and Annie staying home to pop a baby a year. Hugs and kisses to all!!
January 31st, 2012, 3:23 pm
Mina said:
Not sure it has been posted yet; the new draft resolution is here:
http://www.innercitypress.com/syria4lastrack013112.html
January 31st, 2012, 3:24 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
More rumors from opposition sources.
Saudi hacker steals e-mails from Assad accounts.
http://youkal.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42585%3A2012-01-31-07-07-48&catid=54%3A2011-04-29-12-25-44&Itemid=126
تمكن هاكر سعودي اسمه سلمان العنزي من اختراق إيميل الرئيس السوري بشار الأسد، وقد اخترق وزارات سوريا المهمة.
ووفقا لصحيفة “المدينة” السعودية فإن الهاكر هدد بشار الأسد بتنزيل فضائحه وفضائح معاونيه ودعم إيران له، وصور من بريد بشار السري، فيما ذكر الهاكر أن حجم هذه الفضائح ٤ جيجا, وقد أعطى الهاكر السعودي مهلة للرئيس بشار الأسد لتنفيذ شروطه، وإلا قام بتنفيذ ما هدد به.
يذكر أن موجة تهديدات من هاكر قالت مصادر إسرائيلية إنه سعودي، وأعلنت إحباط عدة محاولات لاختراق مواقع تابعة للوزارات السيادية الإسرائيلية، حيث نجح الهاكر السعودي المزعوم في الوصول لصفحة نائب وزير الخارجية الإسرائيلية داني أيالون وكتب عليها: “اعتذر يا داني، لست رجلاً ولا يمكنكم وقفي”.
January 31st, 2012, 3:27 pm
norman said:
It is hard for me to say this but Hamad is son of bitch..
January 31st, 2012, 3:27 pm
Syrialover said:
I always love the way Mrs Assad gets a free pass with many here because of her age, her appearance and her high fashion wardrobe. There has also been a massive PR campaign inside Syria to build her up as a nice person who helps the poor and children.
There was similar propaganda about Suzanne Mubarak when she was younger. And wait a few years – what happens when she ages and starts to look more like the Tunisian and Libyan first ladies?
The fact she can respresent and promote a dictatorial and violent regime without embarrassment or awkwardness, despite her much-praised western education and upbringing, shows she is not what people fantasise her to be.
While her face is an accident of nature, what’s inside her head will owe a lot to the fact her daddy was a good friend of Assad senior.
January 31st, 2012, 3:29 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Another unchecked rumor from official sources (Sana)
There is democracy and freedom of expression in Syria.
January 31st, 2012, 3:29 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
702. NORMAN
It´s hard for me to say this but Assad is the brother of a criminal.
January 31st, 2012, 3:32 pm
norman said:
Sandro,
You mean Hafiz Assad.I agree ,
January 31st, 2012, 3:41 pm
Mina said:
The Atimes has a real “photoreportage” on the FSA, first of the kind…
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NB01Ak01.html
Not as fancy as they want their Twitter fans and Revlon to believe and spread.
January 31st, 2012, 3:44 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Dale Andersen
I would rather go to hell
January 31st, 2012, 3:46 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
706. NORMAN
I meant Hafiz Al Assad is the son of a criminal. Of course Hafiz, the son of Bashar.
January 31st, 2012, 3:48 pm
Juergen said:
Hans
when do you get it? Israel is Bashars best hated neighbor, but one who would prefer he stay in power. That would guarantee that he keeps his palestinians on his soil and the Golan would remain part of Israel.
January 31st, 2012, 3:52 pm
norman said:
you mean Refat Assad is a criminal, that is what i agree with.
January 31st, 2012, 3:52 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
711. NORMAN
Do not worry, no need to personalize.
All of them are criminals.
January 31st, 2012, 3:55 pm
Tara said:
Dale
Your comment is very funny. Sorry Majed, I am enjoying this.
Btw Dale, I never believed you hate Syria as you have claimed before. May be it is me but as I see something different than the veneer you try to show.
January 31st, 2012, 3:56 pm
Aldendeshe said:
“……It is hard for me to say this but Hamad is son of bitch..”
Why man, because he finally woke up and planned to do something to free people from dictatorship. Help Sunni in Syria get life out of Baathism. I no longer hold any bad feeling for him, now that he turned around on Syria matters. I appreciate the effort he is putting out, even appreciating that Sec. Clinton is out fighting at the U.N. to bring better future for Syrians.
January 31st, 2012, 4:08 pm
Juergen said:
pluralism and contrary opinions arent much loved in Syria
In the pro regime sites they celebrate this real shabiha for fighting, what a message is that sending to the world?
January 31st, 2012, 4:08 pm
Syrialover said:
I am expecting indignant thumbs down from certain commentators here for my comments on Asma Assad in #703.
Fantasies and judgement based on superficial appearances are immature and absurd. And such opinions are silly fairy dust in the face of the devastating reality of what that family has inflicted through gunpower and theft on Syria.
January 31st, 2012, 4:10 pm
Ghat Al Bird said:
A short Russian view of what is happening in Syria:
What Is Really Going On In Syria: Insider Update
by Boris Dolgov
In this article Boris Dolgov, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Oriental Studies in Moscow, reports on his recent trip to Syria.
His field investigation is particularly valuable since most of the information about Syria in recent months has emanated from Beirut, Paris or London. Professor Dolgov confirms that, far from a contrived “Arab Spring” scenario, Syria is undeniably grappling with the threat of foreign occupation.
He observes that while the offensive is inordinately violent, the population will not be intimidated. Aware of the disaster wrought by NATO “humanitarian” operations in Yugoslavia and Libya, the Syrians refuse to be drawn into a sectarian ambush.
A process of reform and development is on track, but it will not be dictated from abroad. In Syria, one may object to the president, but not to national sovereignty.
January 31st, 2012, 4:25 pm
jad said:
Norman
People on here didn’t get your point.
It’s the first time in SC history that Mr. Norman curse anybody or use a bad word.
I second your opinion about albaghl ibn al….HBJ.
January 31st, 2012, 6:44 pm
Mawal95 said:
Video compilation: Street protesters in Hama, Homs and Daraa chanting slogans specifically saluting by name the Islamist sheikhs Al-Arour and Qardawi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXbFnH1C66c
Those two well-known sheikhs are Sunnis who have repeatedly expressed a domineering attitude towards Shiites, and even an attitude of hostility towards Shiites. Thus the above videos are evidence of sectarianism in Syria. But as I said several times before on this board, although you can find expressions of sectarianism among some Sunnis in Syria, the type people with that sort of opinion are a disreputable minority without realistic hope of changing the minds of the rest.
January 31st, 2012, 6:49 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
United nation meeting showed that Russia is insisting on the use of veto, and China too, Russia must be betting that the regime in Syria will overcome the crisis.
Mr. Ja3fari was talking a lot of nonsense, about a century ago, or condemning France and Ottoman , he exagerate the death in Libya to 130,000 wjile it was 50,000, that is because the death in Syria is already getting close to that number, there are 10,000 known death,and 30,000 missing presumed to be dead..Mr.Hamad bin Jasem was excellent in his presentation,
I take it there are a lot of behind the seen negotiations, and we will expect a vote no later than friday.
Ann will flood us with articles,
Norman ,we all feel that we need to say something like that, do not worry.
The syrian regime should not feel free to kill his people,and the the people will not get guns to protect themselves, GOD BLESS THE FSA
January 31st, 2012, 7:01 pm
Mawal95 said:
Non-Syrians who consume Western propaganda think the Assad regime is doomed. But real Syrians think otherwise. From HANS above, worth repeating: “It is very hard for the Opposition to win the hearts and the souls of the Syrians after all this killing they have done. It is clear that the army is not targeting the innocent population. That’s the opposite to what the Western propaganda about Syria is.”
January 31st, 2012, 7:08 pm
Juergen said:
Mawal
You know i have sleepless nights because i do not have Syrian state tv here in my home or Aldunia. Strange enough i do survive. In the morning like right now i listen to Madinah FM, to get my dosis of Bashar wa baas for the day and Honey is doing her best to let you believe all its soo normal in Syria. A bit of Bassem Ferghali and the killing is gone in my head, but then they play the dabkestyle hisbollah march style president love songs and i am back to reality, and its time to change to Fairuz.
Ah by the way enjoy the attention of Hans and Lizzi as long as it lasts
February 1st, 2012, 1:36 am
Mina said:
The US do it best: they spy on you even before you visit!
31 January 2012
Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US
Holidaymakers have been warned to watch their words after two friends were refused entry to the US on security grounds after a tweet. Before his trip, Leigh Van Bryan wrote that he was going to “destroy America”. He insisted he was referring to simply having a good time – but was sent home.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16810312
The “social networks” or 1984 going worse.
February 1st, 2012, 1:39 am
Juergen said:
Hillary Clinton: “Syria belongs to its 23 million inhabitants not to one man or his family.”
http://c-spanvideo.org/program/MeetingonSy
full video of the meeting of the Security Council
February 1st, 2012, 3:21 am
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