Syria will soon face a new military reality too:

http://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D-kargNcnpb0%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded

On last thread, “Sarkozy asks why Christians dont emigrate”
But if any one asks “Why dont jews emigrate?” Whining and lawsuits and all the manipulative tricks in the book to retaliate for even perishing the thought.

Same sponsors, same democracy:

Why would the Syrian government keep the value of the SYP propped up?

All the successful emerging-markets countries have done the opposite! Just look at China and Brazil. Everyone is mad at them because they keep their currencies devalued making their products attractive in foreign markets.

The term “incompetent boobs” comes to mind!

Well, if you are unemployed and need a job security that will last 2-3 decades go to work in Tel Kalakh (Syria), before it becomes competitive. You also have the added benefit of becoming a business partner with many top Syrian Security officials. Now I will consider rebuilding all those roadsides rental huts that fetch $3000 per month in Arida, Lebanon, just across the river. All we need is for the NATO Islamic Mercenaries to move and work in Deir Alzour and the Turkish Border, if any still alive or not in Assad Jail.

Still want to know what are you (mercenaries- or is it revolutionaries) going to do to release 16000 fools that you got in trouble in Syria out of jail. I beg you not to let them rot to death in Assad prison system as you did for all the other Lebanese and Syrians in the 80’s. Made your fit and moved to London, Germany and Vermont, sent you Bit***es to dye hair “Islamically Baroxide Blond” and got a nice home in Vermont while the guppy you left behind are all forgotten, left for mass graves fill.

Have some conscious; I know it is hard for Moslem to do so. If Moslem had a drop of that, they would not have paid the USA to go and kill 3 million Moslems in Iraq and Afghanistan like those Moslem Bedouins, all of them did.

# 4. Incoherent!!!!!

It is loudly coherent for those “in the Know” or “needs to Know”.

Guy, did anyone understand anything from #4? I think it was a whine about blonde hair or something 🙂

Aboud

About https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12186&cp=7#comment-274964
and your last comment on my info

Regarding the money paid to the protesters ,
it is not my business , it is yours !!
I just reported that two Syrians living in Syria told me.
I trusted these people because they are NOT supporters of the government.

Quite frankly , I am not sure that the government will be happy to have this information being broadcast to the would be protesters.

I was thinking of some commentators here who acknowledged that he is giving money to the local committee in Syria.
but I notice that you mentioned the backers from Saudi Arabia , I didn’t , you know better !!!

“While the government imposes duties close to 50% on many products, the 2009 government revenue from this area indicates that the treasury was only able to collect US$ 0.56 billion or 4.3% of the total value of goods imported.”

Two explanations for this are possible: the taxes were collected but were siphoned off by top officials and therefore never managed to appear in the ledgers; or the importers had worked out a deal with people in power so as to dodge the import duties. In either case, the nation/the people were robbed by corrupt government hoons.

I am also amazed that during all their years in power, the Baathist dictatorship never used any of the oil money to construct refineries that could process the heavy crude locally, providing employment, an industrial manufacturing base and a range of more easily exportable and locally usable petroleum derivatives.

Both of the above and the very valid point by Ehsani and Syr. Prom regarding the idiotic policy of a fixed exchange rate are more proof of a failed corrupt regime that has to go.

Ehsani

Thanks for the thorough analysis that triggers many questions.

Obviously the importation ‘orgy’ is over. What is a success?

Didn’t contribute to the widening gap between rich and poor that was one of the reasons that encouraged the uprisings in poor rural areas?
Didn’t contribute to increased joblessness in average educated syrians?

Do you think this new forced ‘economy’ could be more successful in developing again industries for local consumption products instead of importing them from Turkey or China?
Despite some hesitations on the `temporary’ clause, don’t you think business men will be drawn to reconverted from traders to industrialists? Cheap and abundant manpower, close market.. why not?

What do you see as the role of the Arab neighbors, Iran and Turkey in helping or hampering even more the economy?

Thanks

Aboud
No one can understand anything from SNP
Further all regime supporters they do not make sense,they are paid to comment,and they all do not tell the truth,and their rational is 0,but they hail each other.

Dear #5. Syrian Prometheus,
You said:
“# 4. Incoherent!!!!!”. I think incoherent is an understatement. That is the beauty of SC: you have people like you who are articulate and make a whole lot of sense and you have those who are totally out there somewhere. It is good to have the variety.
By the way, I loved your op ed on SC a while ago. Great work.

Ehsani
“”””
This means that one third out of every Dollar that the government spends will go to supporting a hugely expensive subsidy program that has spiraled out of control thanks to the country’s demographics and illicit trading (especially in mazot)
“”””

May I remark that
the government spends Syrian Pounds not US Dollars.
the subsidy program allows the poorest in Syria to survive ,
it has been reported recently on your blog that mazot ( fuel oil ) is in short supply NOW in Syria

Areal,
yes, the government taxes and spends in SYP. I mention dollars throughout the analysis using an exchange rate of SYP 50 to one Dollar. It is still a fact that 1/3 out of every SYP spent goes on subsidies and it is also a fact that government expenditures is 50 percent of GDP now.

BRICS Emphasize United Stance against Sanctions on Syria
Al-Manar | September 25, 2011

The BRICS group that consists of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa assured that it will express a united stance in the United Nations regarding the Syrian situation, and warned against increasing sanctions on Syria.

In a meeting the Foreign ministers of the BRICS group held on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly meeting, they assured their united stance against increasing sanctions on Syria, considering that this would intensify and complicate the crisis, and would threaten peace and stability in the region.

In the same context, Russia stated its rejection to support the US in demanding the Syrian president to step down.

The Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov clarified that the US demand comes in the framework of encouraging internal conflict in Syria, and warned that armed groups were taking advantage of the protests.

For its part, the Russian Senate Delegation that recently completed its visit to Syria said that the crisis in Syria is a result of internal and external elements.

“Some TV stations broadcasted protests in Syria as well as military actions that are very much far from reality… I say this as I was there. We have made sure that some TV channels are intentionally falsifying the events,” Deputy Chairman of the Russian Federal Council, Ilyas Umakhanov said.

On the other hand, the Foreign Ministers of the member countries in the Islamic Cooperation Organization considered that the US administration’s attempt to impose sanctions against Syria is an outrageous violation to the standards of the international law, and expressed their appreciation to the Syrian leadership’s call for dialogue.

Dear Ihsani,
Great article as always. I would like to make a comment about policy in Syria. All around the world, governments try to appoint experts as economic ministers. Mostly technocrats. Syria is no exception. There has been a push to appoint ministers who have more than adequate knowledge about their fields. The problem is that these ministers have no power to implement their plans. Here is how it works in Syria: The plan is drawn up and sent to the “higher authorities” for approval. A “family” meeting is held to look at the plan and measure its impact on the “family’s” business interests and their goons’ business interests. There could be several routs taken after this meeting:
1- The issues that affect the “family” are removed from the plan.
2- An opportunity is pinpointed where they could make more money, so other elements are added to the plan to open this door.
3- The plan does not benefit the “family”, so it is thrown out.
This is why, every time we see a minister who is fully capable of improving the economy start working, we notice how all his plans come to complete failure, because they were modified by those who know squat about the economy and only care about their Swiss bank accounts. So your dismay at the level of detail in the new law should now be explained. “somebody” needs to keep importing cell phones, thus cell phones are exempt. “somebody” has a successful business importing a specific type of fish, thus, that type of fish is exempt….
Mark my word, as time goes by, this list will keep changing depending on the second layer of people who will pay money or use political power to add or subtract stuff from the list.
Here is Syria Alassad for you.

Dear Atheist Syrian Salafist Against Dictatorships (ASSAD),
I love your name. The acronym ASSAD is very witty, but I really do not like this animal anymore.

Competitive currency devaluation is an easy temptation for incompetent politicians.
On the very short term , it may help the local producers to export on the foreign markets by lowering their final prices
BUT
it increases the cost of the imported part in their goods and machinery
it put a pressure on the local salaries of their workers who cannot afford anymore the inflated prices of the imported goods.

Remind you that the German economy flourishes with a hard currency and the US economy flounders with a weakened economy.

Remind you that Syria has still a large public sector.

Remind you that the 1930 economic crisis in Germany came with a completely devalued mark where you needed 1 million mark to buy bread ..

Regarding the length of the “temporary” measure ( increase of the custom fees ) , it will last as long as the US will impose sanctions , so the local private producers can think very long term !!

@14, ??????
Would love to see a breakdown of the remaining 2/3s of govt. spending. I bet it will contain no mention of “remuneration to additional casual staff needed for shooting and beating the people.”

Majed, they try to sound so profound, but it’s actually just a manifestation of their inner crap.

ASSAD, I’m so jealous of your witty name. If you ever make a party, I’ll join it 🙂

Sheila

“So your dismay at the level of detail in the new law should now be explained. “somebody” needs to keep importing cell phones, thus cell phones are exempt. “somebody” has a successful business importing a specific type of fish, thus, that type of fish is exempt….”

Brilliant, you put it so well. It is in someone’s interest to keep importing certain fish with a certain number of teeth, so that gets exempted.

I noticed laptops and PCs were not on the list of exemptions.

Dear #13. Areal,
The problem is not the subsidy programs per se. The problem is that these programs are not paid for and that they are not part of a comprehensive plan. They are more of a reaction to a problem that can in effect ruin the entire plan that is in place. People in Syria do need help, however, all these subsidies are more like a drop in the bucket. They are not allowing the poor people to survive. Not even close. The people need jobs more than they need handouts and jobs will only come with a working economy. However, if we have a working economy, the thugs can’t make millions without any effort.
Here is Syria Alassad for you.

“Remind you that the 1930 economic crisis in Germany came with a completely devalued mark where you needed 1 million mark to buy bread ..”

Uh yeah, but it took the effects of a disastrous war and a worldwide depression for it to get that bad. Besides, printing money was a conscious decision on the part of the government of the day, to repay the massive reparations that were imposed on Germany by the Allies. I’d be shocked if the sanctions, such that they are, are enough to send the Syrian lira over the edge like that.

I was talking to a friend and he said ASS HEAD,it turn out he is refering to Assad

This is important information and especially that the budget has been increased and the subsidies have also been increased.
Where is the money coming from?
My understanding and correct it if I am wrong is that
1. The Syrian currency printed in the EU and elsewhere is no longer being done and delivered
2. The reserves of $ 18 billion are not all in dollars but in a basket of currencies with euros. The value has gone down and therefore there is reason to think the amount is less than proposed.
3. If the budget is $ 26 billion and if the figure is as I think is unrealistic for there is limited income from taxation and from tourism and from oil export then the reserves are good for about 6 months. We are already at 7 months of turmoil. Has the reserves been used? if so how?
4. If Iran did give $ 6 billion recently and perhaps a few others may have also helped how long can this last?
5. The BRICS are all against further sanctions as mentioned above in this post but is any of them rushing to buy Syrian goods?
6. What would happen if the Arab countries and Turkey were to impose similar or even retaliatory tariffs on Syrian exports? What would happen then.
7. Is this measure a way of bribing the population to stop demands or a way to spread the sanctions to the rest of the population as a way of tightening the screws on the population? Is this the Saddam style of having sanctions not work on the long by making Iraqis/ in this case Syrians suffer and undermining the sanctions regime?
8. Now there are rumors that the gold of the central bank has been moved and that airplanes were loaded at the airport after emptying it of all personnel is there anything to this story?
9. Apparently there are no more dollars in circulation in Syria anymore is this true?

Sami Moubayed has written an article about the fact that the regime should have accepted the Arab league initiative as the oppostion accepted it as a way to give the regime breathing room. There are indications that the regime has allowed some opposition figures to be present in Damascus and I am not sure whether they are trying to find a way out of the mess or more likely trying to play the opposition figures against each other. All tells me that the odl guard are at work and that the role of the inner circle of the family is decreasing in importance.

Again the regime is in a corner and by leaving no room for itself or the opposition to wiggle a solution out is finding itself desperate.

How long before implosion or explosion or civil war?

Dear Sheila @17

Thanks, I’d like to think this here is the real lion; he is ?????. 😉
And despite his name I think it would be an insult and an injustice to animals to allow him (and his executioners and other partners in crime) to be called such. We should be factual and to the point: they are killers, torturers, rapists and thieves (please complete the list if I’ve left out any other appropriate titles).

Amazing, but really low, really low, what else you expect from a Moslem mercenary. You try to instill some sort of compassion in their cold hearts, reminding them that, there exist nearly 16,000 Syrian fools they managed to get into Assad prisons in the past six months, fooled them into action using Al Jazeera, AL Hakira, and other rags, used the poor gullible Syrians who trusted their fake nobilities as expendable tools, and the response you get for that:

AMIGO, NO HABLA ANGLAIS, NO COMPRENDE. NO COMPREHNDE SENIOR. MOUE BANDOUKSTAN, ME NO AMERICANO, NO ANGLAIS.

@ SHEILA

You hit the nail on the head.

It always used to make me laugh when I sat listening to Ministers of the Economy and analysts at the Syrian central bank discussing things like endogenous growth models. All well and good I thought, but you’re missing the elephant in the room – we are living under a dictatorship.

The problem in Syria is one of accountability. Because you can never criticise the President or vote another person/party into power there is no sense of accountability; there is no motivation to reform. That’s the bottom line.

Aboud
22. Aboud said:

“Remind you that the 1930 economic crisis in Germany came with a completely devalued mark where you needed 1 million mark to buy bread ..”

Uh yeah, but it took the effects of a disastrous war and a worldwide depression for it to get that bad.
Besides, printing money was a conscious decision on the part of the government of the day, to repay the massive reparations that were imposed on Germany by the Allies.

REALITY

May I remind you that
1.the 1930 crisis in Germany ( and Europe ) started in 1929 in the US.
2.The “massive reparations” were to be paid in gold not in marks.
3.Germany’s Weimar Republic was hit hard by the depression, as American loans to help rebuild the German economy now stopped .
The Lausanne Conference was a 1932 meeting of representatives from Great Britain, Germany, and France that resulted in an agreement to suspend World War I reparations payments imposed on the defeated countries by the Treaty of Versailles. Held from June 16 to July 9, 1932, it was named for its location in Lausanne, Switzerland.

A moratorium had been placed on the war reparations payments in 1931 and a year later the delegates to the Lausanne Conference realized that the deepening world financial crisis in the Great Depression made it nearly impossible for Germany to resume its payments. However, Britain and France and other Allies had borrowed heavily to fight the war and in particular, France and Belgium were struggling after having had their infrastructure severely damaged by the fighting and by the deliberate destruction and plundering from retreating German forces as the war drew to a close. Therefore, the delegates came to an informal understanding that the permanent elimination of Germany’s debt and war reparations would be subject to reaching an agreement with the United States with respect to their outstanding war debts.

In December 1932, the U.S. Congress rejected the Allied war debt reduction plan, which technically meant that the war reparations and debt reverted to the debt reduction previously granted Germany by the 1929 Young Plan. However, the system had collapsed, and Germany made no further payments. By 1933, Germany had made World War I reparations of only one eighth of the sum required under the Treaty of Versailles.

Aboud ,
Please don’t feel obliged to contradict every of my sentence with your fake facts , it does not really improve your very low credibility rating.

areal,
no one would demonstrate for a mere 1000 lira, with all the shabeeha lurking about and beating up teenagers. 1000 lira to demonstrate is a spit on our faces. scraps of money isn’t our incentive, were after much more…..
i’ve never managed to take your attention on the culture this revolution has created. lets assume this revolution does fizzle out, the regime will have to deal with all the negative media that will be distributed kinda like how the bahraini government destroyed the pearl roundabout and stopped distributing coins that had the pearl roundabout on them because that roundabout became a symbol for the bahraini demonstrators.

below are samples of the media and cultural parts of the revolution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mG3V2fBYbw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE8hHtQrNIU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rbt1XcG2a3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKAf2dTmjkA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjqR7H6YumE
http://www.ali-ferzat.com/

as i stated before ,even the language of syria is changing. my previous post shows:
I was discussing things with a Homsi guy and asking him about the allegiance of a mutual friend( who I believed was against besho). ?? ?? ?? ( with or Against) I asked him.

He replied ??( with) to my surprised expression…then he said things only Homsis can say: ?? ?????? ( with the revolution) . Here in Damascus ?? was reserved for the majority which was for bashar….the homsis changed all of that. It’s simple change of terminology that gives you an idea about reality.

remember, the culture also plays a part, and i personally think with that sort of media available , it will be harder to crackdown on the street.
there are countless more links i can provide, i just hope my message is clear.

I think the points raised by observer are definitely what we should be discussing here and not SNP’s rants @26, but I really can’t let it slide:

It’s more like 60,000 than 16000, but who is “they”? (and in a different time and situation I would ask you to share what you’re smoking with us, dude). If you mean by ‘they’ the salafists or MB then I have to say O M G! (now look what you made me say!) you are blaming salafist MB for inciting the people to go out and demand their way overdue dignity and freedom which left poor BtB (and that’s Besho the Butcher, if you can’t decipher it) no choice but to kill, torture and imprison them! What logic…

worth a repeat:

For its part, the Russian Senate Delegation that recently completed its visit to Syria said that the crisis in Syria is a result of internal and external elements.

“Some TV stations broadcasted protests in Syria as well as military actions that are very much far from reality… I say this as I was there. We have made sure that some TV channels are intentionally falsifying the events,” Deputy Chairman of the Russian Federal Council, Ilyas Umakhanov said.

On the other hand, the Foreign Ministers of the member countries in the Islamic Cooperation Organization considered that the US administration’s attempt to impose sanctions against Syria is an outrageous violation to the standards of the international law, and expressed their appreciation to the Syrian leadership’s call for dialogue.

sanctions are an act of war.

war is all the u.s. knows. war and lying and stealing.

hey! that is israel.

usreal: the 2 jewish states.

this is certainly worth a repeat:

Sever Plocker, Stalin’s Jews

“We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were/are Jewish”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

add to soviet union/russia: iraq, palestine, lebanon. and jewry hopes for many deaths in syria and iran.

oh, just in case some here are blinded by the lies in their heads, a repeat:

Sever Plocker, Stalin’s Jews

“We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were/are Jewish”

israel, aka, murder, inc.

Anyone to flick me a copy of that enrolment form for the “Exclusive” party?

and yeah don’t forget the encryption key eh, I’m pretty sure it would be ciphered similar to every comment made by SNP & SNK!

Btw guys feel free to post as much rubbish as you want because according to the guard of the Christians, the undefeated, the legend of his time (SNK)

“you Wahabis are so proud of your English skills,that is a way for you to compensate for illness and to feel healthy and worms free..remember this is a chat and not PHD in English language Arts”

The situation is getting worse by the day. militarization of the revolution seems more imminent since many groups are fed up being passive while getting killed, tortured and persecuted for the last 7 months without any retaliation or response and hence, even if via a splinter, they are arming and pushing for payback time with the regime & its supporters for their continued crimes and atrocities.

The killing of Homs Hospital Head of Surgery Saturday (3alawee) along with other incidents this week are not good indicators at all, and the voices calling for arms are getting louder by the day.

If nothing dramatic happens to change the Slippery course, Allah yustur.

The situation is getting worse by the day. militarization of the revolution seems more imminent since many groups are fed up being passive while getting killed, tortured and persecuted for the last 7 months without any retaliation or response and hence, even if via a splinter, they are arming and pushing for payback time with the regime & its supporters for their continued crimes and atrocities.

The killing of Homs Hospital Head of Surgery Saturday (3alawee) along with other incidents this week are not good indicators at all, and the voices calling for arms are getting louder by the day.

If nothing dramatic happens to change the Slippery course, Allah yustur.

29. some guy no longer in damascus said:

areal,
no one would demonstrate for a mere 1000 lira, with all the shabeeha lurking about and beating up teenagers. 1000 lira to demonstrate is a spit on our faces. scraps of money isn’t our incentive, were after much more….
“”

It is your business not mine !!

I just reported that a lady in Damascus experienced.
I don’t think she will go anywhere to get 1000 SP.
She did not got beaten or threatened during the very short demo and may be got her 15 seconds fame on Al Jazeera or Youtube.

I just wonder why someone felt the need to award her some money.

For the garbage man at 5000 SP , the Homsi source can be trusted being revolution friendly.

@20 Abboud

According to BtB’s new politcal party law no religious parties would be allowed. But what about a party for athiests, I wonder? Even though you’re accused of being a Wahabi, a slafist, and a MB, I’m quite happy to form a party with you. I do have to admit that the aforementioned do not take too kindly to my sort, though.

L’Observatoire International des Avocats exprime sa plus vive indignation concernant l’escalade des actes de harcèlement et de détentions arbitraires à l’encontre des avocats syriens, dans le contexte de contestation et de répression actuel.
Cet article a été publié le Vendredi 23 septembre 2011

http://www.observatoire-avocats.org/2011/09/23/les-avocats-syriens-victimes-d%E2%80%99arrestations-et-de-detentions-arbitraires/

The signs are clear. Hyper inflation is coming to Syria. The last sign I am waiting for is the government printing money in Syria. Use your Syrian pounds before they become useless.

90% of Syria’s oil exports dependent on an unreliable customer base (the EU). That represents something of a national security failure.

They’ll find other customers but there will be a lag time.

Areal,
Which quarters was she in?
Furthermore it has been quite a while since a demonstration was in the old city.1000 sp is way too little for some one to risk his life. my experiences in damascus tell me a different story from the one 1 your trying portray.

Please note that this fresh update was just added to the post above:

The General Reaction to the Ruling:

The deputy Minister of the Economy and Trade was in Aleppo today. He was in a packed room of businessmen at the city’s Chamber of Commerce. Several passionate pleas were made to rethink the decision and to exempt more products. Many explained how they already have goods on the way and wondered what they would with them (they did not have an L/C open before September 22nd). One wondered why cashew nuts were exempted when the U.S. was the largest exporter/supplier of this product. To every question, the deputy Minister’s response was to ask that they do so in writing and when the Ministry receives their written questions, it will study them in detail and see how they can help. To which one food importer responded that it would be too late as his goods are already at the border and by the time his letter reaches Damascus and be read he would have already thrown away his rotting produce.

MESSAGE
Well, the unemployment benefits in Madhaya are much higher than those in Tel Kalakh, the partners are in Montana buying houses in the Italian Alps next to the emigrant community from Vermont. Rentals in Sedona, Arizona are not as expensive as those in Nogales, but San Diego beats Salt Lake City by a large margin because the Mormons will not adopt the MB revolution.

Assad’s cousin is buying the rights to Guantanamo from a French producer, who failed in killing himself after his hair dye ran red instead of blonde. He was s*e*we* by no other than the security official partners in Arida, after they started charging MB from Dair Alzour more than $3000 /day to park their trucks across the river. But the US found the long missing book about Islamically sanctioned Brunet dye for redheads who left atheism before the Bedouins became with conscious.

END MESSAGE

14. Ehsani said:
“”””
Areal,
yes, the government taxes and spends in SYP. I mention dollars throughout the analysis using an exchange rate of SYP 50 to one Dollar. It is still a fact that 1/3 out of every SYP spent goes on subsidies and it is also a fact that government expenditures is 50 percent of GDP now.
“”””
May I remind you that
Government spending as a percentage of GDP by country
Country GE as % GDP
1. Iraq 87.3
2. Cuba 81.4
3. Slovakia 66.2
4. Timor 65.5
5. Romania 65.5
6. Moldova 63.4
7. France 61.1
8. Seychelles 60.3
9. Hungary 59.1
10. Guyana 58.8
11. Czech Republic 58.8
12. Sao Tome 58.3
13. Sweden 58.1
14. Denmark 58.1
15. Iceland 58.1
16. Malta 57.9
17. Qatar 57.2
18. Kuwait 56.1
19. Belgium 56.0
20. Norway 55.8
21. Uzbekistan 55.6
22. Colombia 55.3
23. Italy 55.3
24. Netherlands 54.7
25. Austria 54.3
26. Finland 54.2
27. Portugal 54.1
28. Lesotho 53.8
29. Libya 53.0
30. Belarus 52.9
31. Cyprus (no Turk-adm) 52.6
32. Ukraine 52.1
33. Yemen 50.9
34. Greece 50.7
35. Brunei 50.5
36. Georgia 50.4
37. UK 50.0
38. Bosnia/Herzegovina 50.0
39. Bulgaria 49.9
40. Swaziland 49.9
41. Germany 48.8
42. Malawi 48.2
43. Canada 48.2
44. Latvia 47.7
45. Jordan 47.6
46. Egypt 47.5
47. Spain 47.3
48. Slovenia 47.1
49. Ghana 47.0
50. Croatia 46.8
51. New Zealand 46.6
52. Oman 46.5
53. Estonia 45.8
54. Zambia 45.4
55. Papua New Guinea 44.9
56. Angola 44.8
57. Namibia 44.2
58. Azerbaijan 43.9
59. Lithuania 43.9
60. Jamaica 43.9
61. Lebanon 43.7
62. Zimbabwe 43.7
63. Israel 43.6
64. Australia 43.6
65. West Bank/Gaza 43.4
66. Algeria 43.1
67. Uruguay 43.0
68. Serbia 42.8
69. Ireland 41.5
70. Venezuela 41.1
71. Saudi Arabia 40.4
72. Congo, Republic 39.2
73. Burundi 39.1
74. Turkey 39.1
75. Bahrain 38.6
76. Switzerland 37.8
77. Mozambique 37.7
78. Luxembourg 37.5
79. Kazakhstan 37.2
80. Vietnam 36.9
81. Rwanda 36.7
82. Trinidad/Tobago 36.3
83. Botswana 35.9
84. Macedonia 35.9
85. Syria 35.5
86. Peru 35.3
87. Cape Verde 34.4
88. Eritrea 34.1
89. South Africa 33.9
90. Kenya 33.6
91. Tajikistan 33.4
92. Mongolia 33.3
93. Indonesia 33.2
94. Malaysia 32.8
95. Gambia 32.4
96. Belize 32.1
97. Senegal 31.5
98. Bolivia 31.3
99. UAE 31.3
100. Kyrgyzstan 31.1
101. Dominican Rep. 31.0
102. Iran 31.0
103. Japan 30.9
104. Gabon 30.7
105. Morocco 30.7
106. Sri Lanka 29.5
107. South Korea 29.3
108. Chile 29.1
109. Madagascar 28.3
110. Panama 28.0
111. Pakistan 28.0
112. Albania 27.9
113. Burkina Faso 27.7
114. Uganda 27.6
115. Tunisia 27.4
116. Mexico 26.7
117. Paraguay 26.4
118. Nepal 26.3
119. Nicaragua 26.0
120. Ecuador 25.8
121. Honduras 25.6
122. Aruba 25.6
123. Togo 25.3
124. Benin 24.8
125. Tanzania 24.6
126. Nigeria 24.1
127. Equatorial Guinea 23.9
128. Sudan 23.3
129. Congo, Dem. Rep. of 22.9
130. Thailand 22.8
131. El Salvador 22.5
132. China 22.0
133. Ethiopia 21.8
134. British Virgin Islands 21.5
135. Cote d’Ivoire 21.4
136. Poland 21.2
137. Taiwan 21.2
138. Mauritius 21.2
139. Laos 21.0
140. Guinea 21.0
141. Russia 20.9
142. India 20.4
143. Chad 19.9
144. US 19.9
145. Cameroon 19.1
146. Argentina 19.1
147. Armenia 17.8
148. Philippines 17.7
149. Brazil 17.3
150. Hong Kong 17.0
151. Guatemala 16.7
152. CAR 16.6
153. Costa Rica 16.5
154. Haiti 16.4
155. Singapore 16.3
156. Bahamas 16.0
157. Cambodia 13.3
158. Bangladesh 12.8
159. Turkmenistan 9.6
160. Afghanistan 9.2

Note 1: The US’ budget appears deceptively small as these figures are for national (federal) governments. Over 40% of US public spending is done at the state and local levels, unique in magnitude to the rest of the world
Note 2 : Little centralized government spending in countries like Japan, China, Singapore, and Taiwan relative to their respective total economies. The obvious reason is the lack of governmental welfare systems in these countries (with pensions, medical coverage, etc mostly provided by employers) compared to the expensive systems of Western Europe.

You can choose your model for Syria between Irak and Afghanistan !!!

I forget to ask you the debt service as a percentage of GDP ( or budget ) in Syria .

40. some guy no longer in damascus said:

Areal,
Which quarters was she in?

May be the lady was given the money for her favours ? May be she was at Merjeh ?

14. Ehsani said:
“”””
Areal,
yes, the government taxes and spends in SYP. I mention dollars throughout the analysis using an exchange rate of SYP 50 to one Dollar. It is still a fact that 1/3 out of every SYP spent goes on subsidies and it is also a fact that government expenditures is 50 percent of GDP now.
“”””
May I remind you that
Government spending as a percentage of GDP by country
Country GE as % GDP
1. Iraq 87.3
2. Cuba 81.4
3. Slovakia 66.2
4. Timor 65.5
5. Romania 65.5
6. Moldova 63.4
7. France 61.1
8. Seychelles 60.3
9. Hungary 59.1
10. Guyana 58.8
11. Czech Republic 58.8
12. Sao Tome 58.3
13. Sweden 58.1
14. Denmark 58.1
15. Iceland 58.1
16. Malta 57.9
17. Qatar 57.2
18. Kuwait 56.1
19. Belgium 56.0
20. Norway 55.8
21. Uzbekistan 55.6
22. Colombia 55.3
23. Italy 55.3
24. Netherlands 54.7
25. Austria 54.3
26. Finland 54.2
27. Portugal 54.1
28. Lesotho 53.8
29. Libya 53.0
30. Belarus 52.9
31. Cyprus (no Turk-adm) 52.6
32. Ukraine 52.1
33. Yemen 50.9
34. Greece 50.7
35. Brunei 50.5
36. Georgia 50.4
37. UK 50.0
38. Bosnia/Herzegovina 50.0
39. Bulgaria 49.9
40. Swaziland 49.9
41. Germany 48.8
42. Malawi 48.2
43. Canada 48.2
44. Latvia 47.7
45. Jordan 47.6
46. Egypt 47.5
47. Spain 47.3
48. Slovenia 47.1
49. Ghana 47.0
50. Croatia 46.8
51. New Zealand 46.6
52. Oman 46.5
53. Estonia 45.8
54. Zambia 45.4
55. Papua New Guinea 44.9
56. Angola 44.8
57. Namibia 44.2
58. Azerbaijan 43.9
59. Lithuania 43.9
60. Jamaica 43.9
61. Lebanon 43.7
62. Zimbabwe 43.7
63. Israel 43.6
64. Australia 43.6
65. West Bank/Gaza 43.4
66. Algeria 43.1
67. Uruguay 43.0
68. Serbia 42.8
69. Ireland 41.5
70. Venezuela 41.1
71. Saudi Arabia 40.4
72. Congo, Republic 39.2
73. Burundi 39.1
74. Turkey 39.1
75. Bahrain 38.6
76. Switzerland 37.8
77. Mozambique 37.7
78. Luxembourg 37.5
79. Kazakhstan 37.2
80. Vietnam 36.9
81. Rwanda 36.7
82. Trinidad/Tobago 36.3
83. Botswana 35.9
84. Macedonia 35.9
85. Syria 35.5
86. Peru 35.3
87. Cape Verde 34.4
88. Eritrea 34.1
89. South Africa 33.9
90. Kenya 33.6
91. Tajikistan 33.4
92. Mongolia 33.3
93. Indonesia 33.2
94. Malaysia 32.8
95. Gambia 32.4
96. Belize 32.1
97. Senegal 31.5
98. Bolivia 31.3
99. UAE 31.3
100. Kyrgyzstan 31.1
101. Dominican Rep. 31.0
102. Iran 31.0
103. Japan 30.9
104. Gabon 30.7
105. Morocco 30.7
106. Sri Lanka 29.5
107. South Korea 29.3
108. Chile 29.1
109. Madagascar 28.3
110. Panama 28.0
111. Pakistan 28.0
112. Albania 27.9
113. Burkina Faso 27.7
114. Uganda 27.6
115. Tunisia 27.4
116. Mexico 26.7
117. Paraguay 26.4
118. Nepal 26.3
119. Nicaragua 26.0
120. Ecuador 25.8
121. Honduras 25.6
122. Aruba 25.6
123. Togo 25.3
124. Benin 24.8
125. Tanzania 24.6
126. Nigeria 24.1
127. Equatorial Guinea 23.9
128. Sudan 23.3
129. Congo, Dem. Rep. of 22.9
130. Thailand 22.8
131. El Salvador 22.5
132. China 22.0
133. Ethiopia 21.8
134. British Virgin Islands 21.5
135. Cote d’Ivoire 21.4
136. Poland 21.2
137. Taiwan 21.2
138. Mauritius 21.2
139. Laos 21.0
140. Guinea 21.0
141. Russia 20.9
142. India 20.4
143. Chad 19.9
144. US 19.9
145. Cameroon 19.1
146. Argentina 19.1
147. Armenia 17.8
148. Philippines 17.7
149. Brazil 17.3
150. Hong Kong 17.0
151. Guatemala 16.7
152. CAR 16.6
153. Costa Rica 16.5
154. Haiti 16.4
155. Singapore 16.3
156. Bahamas 16.0
157. Cambodia 13.3
158. Bangladesh 12.8
159. Turkmenistan 9.6
160. Afghanistan 9.2

Note 1: The US’ budget appears deceptively small as these figures are for national (federal) governments. Over 40% of US public spending is done at the state and local levels, unique in magnitude to the rest of the world
Note 2 : Little centralized government spending in countries like Japan, China, Singapore, and Taiwan relative to their respective total economies. The obvious reason is the lack of governmental welfare systems in these countries (with pensions, medical coverage, etc mostly provided by employers) compared to the expensive systems of Western Europe.
Note 3: Libya is no longer correct

You can choose your model for Syria between Irak and Afghanistan !!!

I forget to ask you the debt service as a percentage of GDP ( or budget ) in Syria .

areal,

Sure. The issue is the taxation and duties that you need to levy and collect to balance the expenditure. You are correct that government expenditures can be high. But as the government increased its expenditure from last year by 59%, how would the revenues be matched?

Dear Ehsani

from the article you posted
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A similar article on Syria-news
http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=137759
????? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? 2011 ????? ?????????? ????? ????? 11% ?? ?????? ?????? ??? 2010? ??? ?????????? ??????????? ???? ????? ????? ????? 16.2% ??? ???? ?????? ?????????? ???? ????? ?? ????? 45% ?? ?????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ??????.

This puts the investment expenditure of 2011 at SYP 376 billion, about the same amount going towards investment expenditure in the new budget. What does this mean exactly ? where will the extra SYP 491 billion be spent ? and what effect will that have on the economy especially if the government fail to raise income taxes which is the most likely case ?

Thank you

Oh and I think Syria is already looking to barter its crude
This was published on Syria-news 3 days ago
http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=137661

GDP, GE, and Taxes

Question to the economists. When the government spends and X percentage of GDP, doesn’t that mean that it taxes at least that much? in case the government does not have other extraction resource or royalty.

The US value is close enough to the average tax levied when one considers lower, middle, and upper class.

Iraq value is hogh because of Oil, France’s value is also high because, as far as I am told, the Energy sector, as well as a sizeable chunk of telecommunication are owned by the GOF, notwithstanding the very high taxes on upper income brackets, which raise the national average far beyond that of the US.

I think SYRIA’s rate under sanctions should be more compared with countries of very low tax, or those with very low government income through extraction economy.

But who am I to know. I am just a rat.

I think I am Wrong

362. mjabali said:

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4. Syrian Nationalist Party said:

Rant and rave and and squeal and oink, but your regime will fall. Your surrounded on all sides by Sunnis, many of whom are waiting to take on your despicable regime. I don’t remember your ilk talking about “Nato” when Hafez al-Jahsh collaborated with them in Gulf War I.

41. Ehsani said:

Please note that this fresh update was just added to the post above:

The General Reaction to the Ruling:

Many explained how they already have goods on the way and wondered what they would with them (they did not have an L/C open before September 22nd). One wondered why cashew nuts were exempted when the U.S. was the largest exporter/supplier of this product. To every question, the deputy Minister’s response was to ask that they do so in writing and when the Ministry receives their written questions, it will study them in detail and see how they can help. To which one food importer responded that it would be too late as his goods are already at the border and by the time his letter reaches Damascus and be read he would have already thrown away his rotting produce.
“””””

REALITY

1. When you are facing a change in legislation , you have to react.

You pay the extra taxes , get your produce and then ask by fax for an exemption. ( or better come to the meeting with the letter and give it by hand )
and increase your selling price.

2. Cashew nuts is an “essential” commodities in Syria .

3. Exports of cashew nuts from the USA to Syria is prohibited by US sanctions anyway.

4.Two countries, India and Brazil provide 64 % of the total production of cashew nuts.

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Areal

I thought those products were BANNED, meaning they will not allow them into the country, there are no extra taxes!

On that note, any estimates on how much wealth the minister will accumulate by the time he leaves office ?

The Syrian regime does not care about the health status of it\’s citizen even when considering what not to ban. Swordfish should not have been exempted from the ban. Swordfish contain high level of Mercury, a substance that is toxic to the brain if consumed in large amount. Environmental groups recommend avoiding fish high in Mercury such as Swordfish to avoid negative health effect.

Does any member of the Assad family benefit financially from importing Swordfish that in general need to be avoided?

Dear #35. Areal,
None of these assertions can be trusted. Do you really think that any sane person and for any amount of money would risk showing his or her face on Youtube, Alarabiya or Aljazeera, taking the chance that he or she might be recognized and end up dealing with our merciless regime?. I think not. Anyone willing to take this risk is doing this out of conviction. People giving money to those unemployed and suffering is another matter

45. Ehsani said:

areal,

Sure. The issue is the taxation and duties that you need to levy and collect to balance the expenditure. You are correct that government expenditures can be high. But as the government increased its expenditure from last year by 59%, how would the revenues be matched?

REALITY

When you increase your expenditures , you can balance by
increase of taxes and duties,
increase profits from public establishments,
increase your borrowing,
sale of public properties,
diminution of your reserves ( foreign currency , gold )

Some options are more “virtuous” and easier than others !!

Thank you Ehsani

some news from homs away from the economy

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http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=137777

Let’s get little bit more technical and look into the Keynesian formula:

C + I + G + X ? M = Y(GDP)

C (going down): High inflation and an spiked CPI would reduce the total personal consumption expenditure figure
I (going down): Uncertainty, vague ROI and massive $$ deposit withdrawals would lead to shrink this figure down
G (going up): Government expenditure figure according to the new announced budget is going up
X (going down): Export goods or services to foreign consumers is already impacted with more trade and investment sanctions around
M (going down): Import goods and services from foreign producers (that’s what the government was trying to reduce in order to fix this equation, what a naïve strategy!!)

Just by looking at these figures with basic math skills you could easily conclude the deficit (-) and understand where Betho and his stupid policy makers are taking the country. This is without even looking deeply into the weird practice of fiscal & monetary adopted policies.

Inevitably, this government is going bankrupt!!!

Call your friends and families ask them to buy gold or hard currencies NOW.

@34 sadsyrian

I respectfully must note that the little sectarian insinuation you slipped in your post is most offensive to all Syrians. Irresponsible it is, too.

The head of surgery at Homs hospital was not knocked off because he was 3lawi, but most likely for the help he gave the torturers and killers of this sad and sorry regime AND for all the bodies that left his hospital sans many organs, with the perpetrator of the punishment being most likely a very angry relative of one of those people whose organs were extracted by the honorable head of surgery, regardless of what sect he belonged to.

52. NK said:
“”””
Areal

I thought those products were BANNED, meaning they will not allow them into the country, there are no extra taxes!

On that note, any estimates on how much wealth the minister will accumulate by the time he leaves office ?

“”””
REALITY

Obviously , you have your own answer to the problem of Syrian businessman based on the juicy experience of a former US Vice President.

I am not sure that it is the minister who stands at the border 24/24 7/7 52/52 .

Dear #55. Areal,
You said” “REALITY
When you increase your expenditures , you can balance by
increase of taxes and duties,
increase profits from public establishments,
increase your borrowing,
sale of public properties,
diminution of your reserves ( foreign currency , gold )
Some options are more “virtuous” and easier than others !!”

Real REALITY:
None of these options are feasible:
1- Can’t increase neither taxes nor duties as people are already suffering from the sanctions and the economic impact of the revolution. This would cause major unrest.
2- Can’t increase profits from public establishments for the same reason mentioned above. People are already impoverished and consumption is down.
3- Can’t increase your borrowing as no one will lend you due to sanctions or lack of trust in the longevity of the regime.
4- Sale of public property is wishful thinking. The market is down and people have little money that they are willing to part with.
5- Diminution of your reserves has already been done and if the rumors are true, Syrian gold is already out of Syria.

Do you have any other ideas?

EHSANI
As usual, outstanding job. Food for thought, and the discussion is becoming more interesting with AREAL challenges.

AREAL
When you increase your expenditures , you can balance by
increase of taxes and duties,

Duties on what? no more import is allowed, I doubt that 51 exempted items are much of the total import to Syria. It most likely will be fees, and taxes, with much being paid by those who can least afford to pay.

increase profits from public establishments,
Say what?… How?, many of the unionized workers are already doing double shift as Shabeeha. You need efficient sector to increase its profit, and the public sector is in full disarray with minor exceptions.

Increase your borrowing,
From whome? Not even china will lend a government in such precarious situation despite of the incredible saving balance in china.

sale of public properties,
To whom?, … People have stopped their own projects, I do not think many will go on buying government companies. Other than public lands , or government vehicles, there is little to sell. One possible temporary way out would have been to embark on building spree and sell apartments at reduced price, but who would do that when they can build in informal settlement with little or no fear. An added complexity is that state owned (sorry, now Shalish owned) government construction firms, have forgotten how to do an honest work at low cost. I am not even talking about construction material, because I am not sure whether they are in or outside that ban.

diminution of your reserves (foreign currency , gold )
That is what the regime is either trying to avoid, or realizing that they don’t have much left to diminish?

More from the Aleppo meeting today (comments at the end too)
http://www.aksalser.com/index.php?page=view_articles&id=c340ba70c3a95c7699f4fd054d545df2&ar=999935277

21% depreciation against the dollar since the beginning of the year: The Turkish lira!

Turkish Lira depreciates to record low against US dollar
September 26, 2011
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkish-lira-depreciates-to-record-low-against-us-dollar-2011-09-26

Turkish Lira depreciated against US dollar at a record low level on Monday, reflecting the negative sentiment prevailing in global markets due to European debt crisis

The Turkish Lira depreciated and hit an all-time low against the dollar on Monday, marking a loss of 21 percent of its value since the beginning of the year.

Syrian opposition to open office in Turkey next week
September 26, 2011

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=syrian-opposition-to-open-office-in-turkey-next-week-2011-09-26

Syria’s opposition is expected to open an office in Turkey next week as part of a drive to open several missions around the world to greater present the demands of anti-government dissidents.

“[The Syrian opposition] will open an office in Turkey in one week’s time. I told [Syrian President Bashar] al-Assad that we would let the Syrian opposition be organized in Turkey. I said that we were a democratic country and could not hamper [them],” daily Hürriyet quoted Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an as telling a group of journalists. The decision to open an office in Turkey was taken after representatives of the Syrian National Council held meetings with Turkish officials in Ankara recently, a member of the Syrian opposition told the Hürriyet Daily News on Monday on condition of anonymity. The opposition representatives, who are closer to the Muslim Brotherhood than others, are expected to hold a meeting Thursday in Istanbul, the source also said. Two opposition groups were established in Turkey at the end of August; namely, the National Council, which is seen as more Islamist and the 94-member National Council of Syrian Transition, which is headed by Burhan Ghaliyoun, a Paris-based academic. In its meeting in August, the National Council decided to form a foreign office, launch a satellite television broadcast and establish a legal office to work on future court procedures. Meanwhile, Syrian tanks pounded a town on a strategic highway overnight, injuring at least three people in Homs, Reuters said. Meanwhile, the official websites of seven major Syrian cities and several government departments have been hacked, according to Al-Jazeera.

Dear OTW,
This is down right funny. Did you notice how we both answered the same post almost identically?.

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Dear Ehsani
This is definitely going to be a problem for the regime. The chamber of industry is joining the chamber of commerce and Aleppo is up for a surprise.

I think the regime will now be forced to rely exclusively on its drug smuggling shabeeha in Aleppo. No longer it can rely on the industrialists support to contain the situation. Off course, Addunya and others will blame the uprising and many Aleppans will do the same (including some I know, who already started the cracked record we hear frequently on SC. But I think the business community in Aleppo, especially middle size businesses, are talking very much like they are giving ultimatum.

Should we expect Besho to come to the rescue. And with that the complete the theatrics or is the situation really very bad?. The government will be let go, and Besho would try to look like the hero along with Saint Terezo Makhlouf, who is already blabbering about building affordable housing and selling his stocks to the people of Syria.

I liked one comment in which an exporter is asking about the dollars his Iraqi customers send to his account, which he has to receive in Syrian Liras.

Do you think Mr. Sha’ar can spend his weekends in Aleppo any longer?

A very very dear friend of mine was told earlier today that September paycheck is his last.

We have asked the paid revolutionaries/mercenaries 3 times this question, what you (murderous scam artists) are going to do to release the 16,000 guppy Syrians you sent to Assad prisons by your false propaganda, incitements and deceiving promises.

And the Answers we got so far are:

0- HO HABLA ANGLAISE, NO COMPREHNDE
1- We are not Syrians, what do we care.
2- Get lost man, leave us alone; we got some serious cash to spend here.
3- This is confusing, what are you talking about.
4- I got to go.
5- Who are “they” you referring to, we really need to know “They”
6- What 16,000, you are confusing us, you make no sense.
7- And to add insult to injury, a poster calling “Itself Syrian”, who care less about these people that are most likely being tortured daily, posted this reply:

“…….Well, the unemployment benefits in Madhaya are much higher than those in Tel Kalakh, the partners are in Montana buying houses in the Italian Alps next to the emigrant community from Vermont. Rentals in Sedona, Arizona are not as expensive as those in Nogales, but San Diego beats Salt Lake City by a large margin because the Mormons will not adopt the MB revolution.

Assad’s cousin is buying the rights to Guantanamo from a French producer, who failed in killing himself after his hair dye ran red instead of blonde. He was s*e*we* by no other than the security official partners in Arida, after they started charging MB from Dair Alzour more than $3000 /day to park their trucks across the river. But the US found the long missing book about Islamically sanctioned Brunet dye for redheads who left atheism before the Bedouins became with conscious……..”

Looks like the 16,000 are going to rot in Assad dungeons till they die, and no one is going to stand up for their release. Moslem revolutionaries are all paid up and too busy spending the money to care. There is priority, having their Hijabed women turning to Peroxide blonds. No one care, the checks are cashed and who care about those dim witted 16,000 Syrians that bought our scam. We Moslem mercenaries left 20,000 dead in the 80’s and few more thousands in mass graves in Palmyra and enjoyed life in London and Vermont, we did not even think about it, will do it all over again if we have the chance. Allah is great, he may give us another if we preyed harder.

I know what they going to say next: Well we are F…ing Moslems, what you expect from us, get lost man, you are insane, you make no sense, leave us alone. Even if we sober from all that cash and whiskey and start to know what the hell you are talking about, it is not our fault, we made out good man, they are stupid, they believed us, and they bought our propaganda and false promises. They got what the deserve for being stupid, many of them got paid from us man, you know.

Dear Sheila
Yes. I did. It was funny.

I am waiting for SNK or five brain-cells to accuse us of conspiracy and of having received talking points from Ambassador Ford.

This is for you Aboud.

The pathetic Syrian Electronic Army accomplished a new feat today by hacking into Harvard’s web site. Despite the sophistication of the attack, the pathetic army could not avoid making embarassing grammatical mistakes.

Isn’t it amazing that they don’t have within their ranks someone with good command of the English language!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-15061377

Dear Christians on SC:

From now and on, I invite you to eliminate all islamophobic ideas that could be entertained in your mind. Courageous people have no fear. Good people always look for the goodness in others. Further, good people provide the others the opportunity to show their goodness. Phobia and rejection promote indignation and repulsion. By your fear you are promoting sadness and absurdity.by your negative emotions, you are promoting absurdity and destruction, although you are the ones who are supposed to promote resurrection. Come friends and discover the goodness in others. Come friends and enjoy life with me.

More bullshit from a Sunni horn

“Muallem said foreign governments sought to undermine co-existence between Syria’s different religious groups.”

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/world/10347565/four-syrian-army-deserters-shot-dead/

Yet he could not name one of these “foreign governments” or at least to a show one single video to prove his empty allegations.

Dear Ihsani,
I totally agree with OTW. The threat to the regime from the Halabi industrialists and business men and women is very clear: enact this new law and Aleppo will join the revolution. I want to see the regime’s response. They could either cancel or suspend the new law, or punish the people who signed the declaration. Either way it does not bode well for the regime. It is amazing how these people are their own worst enemies. Leave them to it and they will dig their graves with their own hands.

Subsidizing Mazot in Syria:
My brother and I were discussing the mazot subsidy in Syria. Here is what my brother thinks:
It is an absolute travesty that the regime would subsidize the price of mazot for everyone and for all uses. The rich pay as much as the poor, mazot for factories costs as much as for heating and finally, taxi drivers pay as much as people who own BMWs. Isn’t it better to target the poor for subsidies? This way, the poor will get more and the country will spend less.
What do you think?

@71 Dear Christians on SC

Christians, do not be deceived.
We have a library of YouTube videos collected for Syria Scam Islamic Mercenary /Terrorists 2011 Facebook page. It is horrifying to see the evil in these Moslem eyes while chanting threats against Christians, Shia and Alawites in Syria. They burned churches, beating and raping Christian women in Homs. Threatening Christians with punishment if they don’t join the scam revolution, all on videos they proudly displayed on YouTube for the world to watch.

Christians, do not be deceived by the evil and vile ones. Look how many rotting in Assad prisons, look how they are forgotten now already. History is full of chapters of Moslem deceit, innocent nations and people trusted their deceptive promises, only to be reneged on it. The Moslem massacres of Christians and other KUFFAR can fill a Smithsonian hall. There are streets in old Damascus to this day have blood stain of Christian slaughtered by Moslems less than 100 years ago. Millions of Christians died on hand of Sunni Turks this past Century. If you ever had doubt about the sincerity of Moslem promises, just go to Aleppo and grab any Christian and just ask you will get straight answer the horror stories.

To this day, in Saudi Arabia, A Christian will be killed if he to place cross in the land or even wears one. These paid Islamic mercenaries, sponsored by foreign powers and by Moslem Arabs are the worst of all Moslems. Just watch video of Satanist Moslem Arrour and other rag heads in Arabia. They said that even Two third of Syrians are HALAL to be slaughtered if one third survive to form an Islamic State.

The bible warns us in these closing last days that Christians will suffer and go thru the Tribulation by the Moslem hordes and their Demonic Reptilian backers. The book of Revelation and other books written by god help to guide you in these days not to be deceived. Because we live in the final days of the Age of deception. Ask your Bishop to explain to you was said here.

This is not a conflict about Freedom and Democracy for Syria, this is the final conflict between good and evil, the one spoken of by your Christian Bible. Assad thinks he is resisting US-Israel plots; he is resisting far more sinister and crucial plot than that. He is resisting pure Evil Reptilians that wants to enslave humanity, all of it, massacre all Christians, That is why the Evil ones choose to hire Moslem hordes to take over the entire Middle East, that is why he is sending millions upon millions to occupy Europe and America, he knows they will deliver his evil kingdom the One World Government, The One World Order.

The Bible teaches us to restrain this evil plan and to hinder it. As a Christian, you must hinder it; it is your Lord command.
Here are his words, confirm it with your Bishop:

Revelation 20:1-15
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. …

Matthew 24:22
And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

Revelation 11:7
And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit will make war on them and conquer them and kill them (the Christians)

Romans 9:27
And Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the sons of Israel be as the sand of the sea, only a remnant of them will be saved, ( be scared Jews, Know your Friends today)
Jeremiah 30:7 “Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it. ”

Daniel 12:1
“And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. ”

dragon = satan
(Revelation 12:9,
“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

Watch all 9 episodes:

To #75. Syrian Nationalist Party,
Oh my God. This is absolutely scary. I did not know that Muslims were so evil. You said : “just go to Aleppo and grab any Christian and just ask you will get straight answer the horror stories“. I grew up in Aleppo. Many of my friends are Christian. They always wore their crosses with pride. I hope they would not have horror stories to share. We seem to get along just fine.
You said: “Millions of Christians died on hand of Sunni Turks this past Century”. And I say: millions of Muslims died on the hands of Christians throughout the centuries. Do I hold today’s Christians responsible for that? The answer is NO.
You said: “The bible warns us in these closing last days that Christians will suffer and go thru the Tribulation by the Moslem hordes and their Demonic Reptilian backers”. I say: excuse me, but wasn’t the Bible written a few hundred years before Islam was even on earth?
I have a simple question for you: Could you please explain to all of us what you are trying to accomplish by spread this lethal message?

71. HAYTHAM KHOURY

As usual, thank you!

@75. Syrian Nationalist Party

LOL, ROFL, LMAO, LAWL, LMFAO, OIC … heheheh I can’t just stop laughing you’re a miserable sad case mate!! C’mon get a life, get a hobby or at least get laid and release this stress out hahahah

I bet you keep peeling the label off your beer eh OMG!! This is hilarious

I’m sure your party members would love to hear more

Please keep posting please heheeheh

@ 76. Sheila & SNP

“Could you please explain to all of us what you are trying to accomplish by spread this lethal message?”

Alsh3ab yreed tafseer el’7teb, Alsh3ab yreed tafseer el’7teb

Wo Yil3an ro7ak ya Hafiz

Hehhehehehehehehe 🙂

Joke of the day:

“This is not a conflict about Freedom and Democracy for Syria, this is the final conflict between good and evil”

In other words, Assad and his mafia represent good.

A psychiatrist is needed ASAP. Someone here has lost it.

The legend of unstoppable bullshit

The horn of his time

Ladies and Gentlemen, Please give it up for ……….. “SNP”!!!

Hooray and now let’s all sing

Yil3an ro7ak ya Hafiz wo Allahya’7dak ya Betho 🙂

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http://syrianrevolution.org/?p=13701

@58 ” Atheist Syrian Salafist Against Dictatorships (ASSAD)”

1) Believe me, I sincerely hope that I am mistaken with my “insinuations” however, the facts in the ground are sadly leaning in that direction. again, this is very sad and many groups are trying to avoid that path however, the regime acts are enticing this although they claim they are against it.

2) you indicated Dr. Eid was “knocked off” due to the help he gave to the “torturers and killers” & his assistance in removing organs from the dead bodies, can you shed some light on these accusations?

Darryl #372 from the previous entry

Kill in Arabic is ?????? and not ??????, when you say Darryl killed NK you must use ??? and not ????, the two are not interchangeable. Please feel free to consult any Arabic language teacher.

I presented you with Qaradawi’s tafsir regarding verse 9:29, he’s probably the most prominent Sunni scholar today and by many accounts he’s even an extremist (kinda odd coming from an MB leader and an extremist), his tafsir clearly contradicts yours, and 100% supports what I wrote previously, if you read the article I linked there he points to many examples dating back as far as the seventh century.

I presented you with the tafsir of a 2nd scholar who I never heard of before, I got that tafsir by merely Googling the verse.

And now I’ll add what the Bible says about Jizya (and in the bible it’s called Jizya)

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??? ???????? ??? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???????? ????? ?? ??? ????? ? ??? ??? ????? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ????: ” ???? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ??????? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ???????? ???? ?????? ??? ????” (??? 17/24-27).
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?????? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???????? ???? ???????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?????? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ????: “????? ?? ??? ????????? ???????? ??????? ?? ????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?? ????? ??????? ????? ????? ????? ?????????? ??????? ??????? ?????? … ?? ?? ???? ????? ????? ????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?? ???? ?? ??? ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??????? ????? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ???? ??????? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?? ??????? ??????? ??? ?? ???????? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ???????? ??? ?? ???????” (????? 13/1-7).

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+13%3A1-7&version=NIV

1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. 6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

That being said, you most likely will still insist that you’re right and all those Muslim Scholars are wrong, and keep on asking that 1.5 billion Muslims change their holy book to accommodate your vision of what words God should or should not have used. Who needs divine revelation when we have you!

Effective, very effective, they gone Buzzzzzzzurk. LOL. Christians, do not be deceived. This is how they ridiculed and mocked your Jesus and his Christian disciples, all Twelve of them. Go to your Bishop and talk to him today, not tomorrow. I Know they are not Syrians, They are Americans. LOL. They did not understand the very first post today, which will be obvious for Homsi.

@ 85. Syrian Nationalist Party

“I Know they are not Syrians, They are Americans. LOL. They did not understand the very first post today, which will be obvious for Homsi.”

Hehehehe, OMG so funny “…Let me guess i got to become a fan of SNP..” ;P

Please keep posting mate!! honestly you should consider applying for “Qurdaha got talent” 🙂

??”…………?? : Falcon
– ?? ???? ??? ???? ???? ????? ?? ????? ???????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ????? ???? ???? (????? ?? ?????? ????? ???????) ??? ??????? ?? 1970 ??? ???? ????? ??? 23 ??? ???? ????? ??????? ?? 1970 ??? 1992 !!………”

May god bless Hafez soul forever for that deed. A prayer from the deep of my heart.

To everybody,
I give up. The man is crazy.

Salil Shetty, secretary general of Amnesty International, paid tribute to youthful protesters who were “standing up and speaking out in the face of bullets, beatings, tear gas and tanks….This bravery – combined with new technology that is helping activists to outflank and expose government suppression of free speech and peaceful protest – is sending a signal to repressive governments that their days are numbered,”

he said. “But there is a serious fightback from the forces of repression. The international community must seize the opportunity for change and ensure that 2011 is not a false dawn for human rights.”

A report by BBC World News, May 12, 2011, cites Amnesty International’s recently published annual report. In the report, Amnesty highlights the fight for control over communications technology.

In a statement, Amnesty pointed to a “critical battle” for control of access to information, means of communications and networking technology. “Governments are scrambling to regain the initiative or to use this technology against activists,”.

It called on companies that provide internet access, mobile communications and social networking sites to respect human rights and not become accomplices to repressive governments.

The reputational risks are not abstract and one notable example of a high profile company that was alleged to have collaborated with a regime known for its human rights abuses was Yahoo.

In November, 2002, activist Jiang Lijun was arrested following an investigation that allegedly used information supplied by Yahoo. Again in September 2005, Yahoo was accused of supplying information to Chinese authorities which led to the jailing of journalist Shi Tao. In February 2006, Yahoo was accused by Reporters Without Borders of releasing information to the Chinese authorities that led to the arrest of Li Zhi, a net activist. In November 2007, Yahoo settled a lawsuit brought by families of bloggers convicted by information the internet firm handed over to the Chinese authorities.

(Source: BBC News. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/business/8581393.stm)

Syrian UN speech.

Was there a mass walkout?

See video lower down on the following page. From 2.08 the camera pans the hall.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=39802&Cr=syria&Cr1=

Haytham Khoury – can you please explain to me why : –

1 ) christians in homs and hama have been threatened with their life, if they send their children to school?
2 ) christian females in homs and hama have been repeatedly warned by the islamic extremists, against wearing any clothing above their knees and elbows?
3 ) why 80% of christians have fled the hamadieh,bustan diwan,bab sabah, etc ( homs ) and hardi ( hama ) ?

I was in syria 4 weeks ago and spend 90% of my time in Homs and wadi nasara. I interviewed 20 christian families from the Homs and Hama areas, and have documented every single account of what they saw. Islamic extremists setting up road blocks with m16’s in homs and hama, priests and allawite clerics kidnapped, cars torched and burnt by these islamic terrorists. I have sent these recorded video interviews over to a few western government agencies, and await their reply.

Haytham khouri, stop being in denial and wake up to the reality on the ground in syria.

Sasha Pagella from “IW financial” wrote about “The Geopolitical Risk in Syria”

Geopolitical Risk in Syria
May 2011

The uprisings and protests that have rocked the Arab world have once again demonstrated the interlocked nature of our global environment. While the wider world at large has started to feel some of the consequences stemming from the ongoing upheaval e.g. rising oil prices, no one knows with any certainty what the overall impact will be. What is clear, however, is that risks associated with conducting business in countries that oppress their citizens or have ties to terror are being taken more seriously by institutional investors as a May 2011 IPE article attests. The article entitled, “Geopolitical risk of investments must be taken more seriously”, points out that most such risks could have been anticipated.

Notwithstanding the rapidly growing human rights crisis throughout the Arab region, a significant proportion of western business with involvement in countries such as Syria have much to lose. A quick look at IW Financial’s (IWF) global compliance database reveals that one fifth of companies from the 2010 Fortune Global 500 list have current business operations linked to Syria.

While publically traded companies with ties have already been operating within an existing sanctions regime that has existed since 2004, additional sanctions may be forthcoming if the widespread violence that been gripping Syria continues or escalates in intensity. Earlier this month the European Union (EU) announced that it will be establishing sanctions against top Syrian government officials. As of May 18, 2011 the U.S. has announced that it to, has imposed sanctions on senior Syrian officials as well as on Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, something the EU had previously avoided. This marks a dramatic ratcheting up of pressure on the Syrian regime and bars U.S. individuals and companies from dealing with any of the named Syrian officials. Additional measures to isolate the Syrian regime are more likely to be adopted the longer that violent repression continues.

The potential risks to businesses, particularly those linked directly with the Syrian government are both reputational and business.

Reputational risk: Large cap publically traded companies are particularly vulnerable to reputational risk due to their raised public profile.

Business risk: A range of potential business risks apply to companies with operations in countries such as Syria and are sometimes highlighted in 10K filings. These include:

Breaches of current sanctions could result in criminal or civil penalties or other remedial measures – see example of Schlumberger Ltd listed below.

Increased level of sanctions might increase the risk and complexity for companies with involvement in Syria as well as cause them to cease operations in Syria all of which could increase costs, distract focus of senior management and result in a loss of earnings.

Regime change resulting in the establishment of a democracy or a radical anti-western government could increase the risks to firms with existing government contracts in Syria. Any new government may not recognize existing contracts or seek to renegotiate terms. Obviously, if a radical anti-western government were to seize power that would also likely result in a tightening of the international sanctions regime.
The examples below, drawn from IWF’s global compliance data, illustrate current company involvement (from 2010 Fortune Global 500) in Syria and some of the potential business and reputational risks that they might be exposed to:

NEC’s Microwave Communications (Pasolink) segment which currently “provides service” in Syria. No details of this service or existing customers are disclosed. According to the company website, the company’s PASOLINK products offer “a full range of economical short- and long-haul point-to-point microwave radio systems designed for a wide range of applications, such as mobile backhauls, broadband networks, enterprise solutions, and emergency networks.” (Company website, 01/2010)
Microwave communications are dual use technology that can be used both for “emergency networks” and for a wide range of government enforcement agencies e.g. military/paramilitary (police).

TUI AG, whose subsidiary, Oft Reisen offers tours to Syria for German travelers. (Oft Reisen website, 01/2010) Given the current circumstances in Syria, you can expect tourism to whither.

Schlumberger Ltd. In August 2010, Schlumberger Ltd. acquired Smith International Inc. which has disclosed corporate operations in Syria via its wholly-owned and partially-owned foreign affiliates. (Smith International Form 10K, 2009; Reuters, 03/01/2010) In the following paragraph, the company acknowledges the potential risks to earnings as a result of operating in U.S. sanctioned countries.
The company reports its activities in U.S. sanctioned countries as follows: “In addition, we are subject to risks associated with our operations in countries, including Iran, Syria, Sudan and Cuba, which are subject to trade and economic sanctions or other restrictions imposed by the United States or other governments or organizations. United States law enforcement authorities are currently conducting a grand jury investigation and an associated regulatory inquiry related to our operations in certain of these countries. If any of the risks described above materialize, or if any governmental investigation results in criminal or civil penalties or other remedial measures, it could reduce our earnings and our cash available for operations.” (Company Form 10K, 2009)
Schlumberger’s website lists Cairo-based East Africa & East Mediterranean GeoMarket (EEG) as a contact for customers in Syria. In addition, Schlumberger Information Solutions lists a contact in Damascus, Syria. (Company website, 05/2010)
In 2008, Schlumberger participated in the seventh annual Syrian International Oil and Gas Exhibition. The company is listed as an exhibitor and a sponsor of the 2010 exhibition. (Syroil website, 05/2010)

As mentioned at the beginning of this piece, “geopolitics will again become an important factor for investors to consider.” Speaking at the CFA Institute Annual Conference in Edinburgh, Pippa Malmgren said investors had forgotten about the “peace dividend” that has been in place since the fall of the Berlin Wall. “People cannot go along saying events [in the Middle East and North Africa] are a Black Swan,” he said. “Most of the geopolitical events we’ve seen could have been anticipated.” (Source: IPE, 09 May 2011)
Syria is one example of a Federally designated state sponsor of terrorism for which IWF has identified six U.S. States that have specific investment legislation pertaining to corporate involvement in Syria. Many of the corporations with involvement in Syria, such as Schlumberger are also exposed to risks from operating in other State mandated countries such as Iran and Sudan.

please contact:
Sasha Pagella
http://www.iwfinancial.com

It looks like Homs is going to face a major operation soon, The government can not leave the people fending for themselves, it is going to be soon,

I wonder if the ban on products is meant to encourage smuggling so the people of Homs and Tal Khalakh can get busy with that and stay away from the street,

John Khouri

Please do us a favor and post those videos on youtube for all to see, also I’m pretty sure both Ehsani and Alex will gladly post them as a main entry.

Norman

What else can the regime do in Homs, other than using chemical weapons ?
For these incidents to stop the regime should withdraw all army and security personnel from the streets of Homs and then we’ll see how many crimes the armed gangs will commit, they’re clearly not doing a good job anyways, if indeed those armed gangs are roaming freely and committing all kind of crimes all over the city.

NK – the last thing i would want to do is make this video public. Knowing jihadist wahabbi’s like ABOUD and the rest of extremists on this blog, they will be posting it on youtube

@ 94. Norman

People of Homs are busy with more important matter than smuggling (this is the job of Alawis), the whole Homs is busy with toppling the regime!

Up yours!

John Khouri

And …
If the videos document the statements of those who suffered under the armed gangs then you have a moral obligation to promote their case for all to see, Aboud posting those videos on youtube will actually help your cause.

And just in case you’re thinking of claiming that you don’t want them to be identified, here’s a link to a free program where you can blur there faces
http://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=zweistein
and here’s a tutorial on how to use this program

TRUE – you need to correct your statement

“”People of Homs are busy with more important matter than smuggling (this is the job of Alawis), the whole Homs is busy with toppling the regime”

Can you explain to me what religion the people of Wadi Khaled in Lebanon which borders Syria? What religion the majority of Telkalakh is? What religion is 90% of Quaysor? What religion is 95% of Daraa and Jisr Shougr? Sorry to dissapoint you but they are all Sunni. And how about Talbisi ( the drug capital of Syria ) ? All these towns border lebanon and jordan and are the main smuggling routes for the terrorists belonging to the so called “revolution”.

True,

97. TRUE said:

@ 94. Norman

People of Homs are busy with more important matter than smuggling (this is the job of Alawis), the whole Homs is busy with toppling the regime!

Up yours!

Did you really say that, that is amazing, are you an orphan, because your parents would be ashamed of you if they are alive,

99. John Khouri

“Can you explain to me what religion the people of Wadi Khaled in Lebanon which borders Syria? What religion……..”

No I can’t bother!!

Inta 2li ween daher ellayleh ya Joni?

@ 100. Norman

“Did you really say that, that is amazing, are you an orphan, because your parents would be ashamed of you if they are alive,”

Rah rah rah irrelevant with no depth! So what’s you point you thick.

I’m afraid I have to list you down with SNK & SNP

Dear all and particularly islamophobic Christians:

When I answered Radwan Ziadeh and his colleagues on “The National Initiative for Change”, I did not tell my wife. That was simply because I am a very busy man and I do not remember what I tell and what I do not tell.

One week later, Radwan asked to talk to me. I said to my wife, I need some very quiet time to talk to this gentleman. My wife answered “?? ??? ???? ?????”. My wife is not sectarian, but she tends to avoid uncharted territories. I answered her “?? ??? ????? “?? ?? ???? ????? ?? ?????
The most important, I talked to Radwan. Then, Radwan went to the Antalya conference and when he came back, he said “Haytham, we have to write the new constitution of Syria”. He said that, because he was assigned that task. I told my wife that. She said “??? ?? ??????? ??????? ??? ??????”.
Come my friends join me writing the new constitution of Syria. Come my friends make history with me. If you stay in your fear and phobia, you will be on the margin of history. you will be nobody.

For SNP,John Khouri,Darryl,
This revolution is not Islam against Christianity, this is freedom against dictatorship,Christians all over the world support the Syrian revolution.
Prolonging the war by the regime will strain the army,increase the chances for desertion, impoverize the people,increasing the chance for the people to complain.

@ Norman

Listen up mate, my parents would be really ashamed if I kept hiding behind this virtual wall called the “Unknown” and puts all my misery and cowardice on my minorities complex disorder.

Got that big ears!!

Pro-Assad ‘Army’ Wages Cyberwar In Syria

http://www.npr.org/2011/09/25/140746510/pro-assad-army-wages-cyberwar-in-syria

Syrian hackers crack Harvard website
http://rt.com/news/line/2011-09-26/#id19063
­Syrian hackers have hit the website of Harvard University, one of America’s top universities, Itar-tass reports. The group of hackers placed a portrait of Syrian President Bashar Assad on the frontage with a Syrian flag in the background. Along with the image they left a message saying, “Syrian electronic army were here.” They also criticized US policy towards President Assad`s regime and wrote several threats to the US. The new design stayed on the website for nearly an hour.

Musician’s family attacked in Syria

Ya Haif, John Khouri.

Are you a true Khouri? Are you related to the late Syrian P.M. Fares Khoury’s, he was a nationalist and a proud Christian. Are you either?

Your religion is your business. We want to bring back the days when all Syrians had a common goal, when only eligibility guarantees you a position.

I will leave you with this:

This review is from: In the Name of Identity: Violence and the Need to Belong by Amin Maalouf.

Amin Maalouf begins this series of essays tautologically. At first, Maalouf is telling me that I am special and so is everyone else. I almost put away “The Nature of Identity.” His theme, then, took on complexity and subtlety. So do wade through the preliminaries, you will be repaid for your patience.

Of course, we are all singular. Of course, we all have shifting identities, depending on our context; answering the question, “Who needs an education about what I represent today?”

We are introduced to the fact that Mr. Maalouf is a Lebanese Christian who speaks Arabic, and now lives in France. Then Mr. Maalouf begins bringing things home.

In this age we are very concerned about the nature of Islam, and how we should regard its prospects in the world. Maalouf establishes that Islam is not, by nature, a religion for radicals. Islam tolerated alternative views of the world in a way unknown to medieval and renaissance Christianity (which butchered its dissidents). Islam was the midwife of modernism for chrissakes. Through Islam we of Western European Christian descent received the cannon of greek philosophy, the foundation of our philosophical world view.

What then is the force radicalizing Islam, Maalouf asks. What is the force leading to radicalization in almost every other form of identity, environmentalism, Christianity, Maalouf asks. Globalization, he answers.

Consistently Maalouf reminds us that people are changed by and change their religion, their identity, their allegiances. We are constantly interacting with our social context. Radicalism is on the rise because all groups, from Timothy McVeigh to Osama bin Laden, feel overwhelmed by the rising tide of what appears an unstoppable globalization. We all, in some sense, feel helpless before this tide. Maalouf views this sense of threat as legitimate. Yet, Maalouf argues, it need not be so. We are in charge of our destiny, we are so much more alike than we are different in this world today. We can all be represented in this globalization tide, although the path is unfamiliar and unsure.

This is a collection of essays in which the tensions and solutions rise together to a very satisfying crescendo. There is no pedantry, nor a trace of condescension in this short powerful book. To my mind, we have received in this volume a very workable program for diffusing the radicalism that so besets our world. At the same time, we receive a program for more comfortably realizing each one of us is a plural and singular entity.

This book finds its origin in anger against those who demand that each person must assert ONE identity, ONE allegiance. Maalouf skillfully establishes that we are plural in identity and allegiance. And if this is realized by most, we have the prospect of a future more of peace than war.

@MAJDKHALDOON

“…..This revolution is not Islam against Christianity,…”

I know. The Americans and NATO plotted it as Sunni Islam against Shia Islam. But when smart people in Syria woke up to the nature of this, they got alarmed.

“………..this is freedom against dictatorship,……..”

Sure and 911 was done by 19 Moslem hijackers who seven of them are alive and well in Arabia. WMD was found in Iraq in mass, and Colin Powel did not say to Bashar when the President stated to him that the policy demanded by Neocons is not acceptable to Syrians, Colin did not reply “What do you care about them, you are a dictator and all you need to care about is us”

“……….Christians all over the world support the Syrian revolution…….”.

I talked to many Christians and unlike the dim wits and paid blogger here, surprisingly, they are well informed. The Internet brought up pretty smart Americans nowadays, unlike the days of Cronkite. They did not support Iraq war, Afghan war, for sure not the Libyan genocide and they have clear understanding of what is going on in Syria. Just the other day I was talking to an Investment banker and devout Christian whom we discuss issue with him and surprisingly, he got it all right. Just before Kaddafi escaped, was having launch and had a quick table to table chat with someone named B.Gross, a really big shot in the investment business, was surprised at the things he mentioned to me and even more when he said he was hoping Kaddafi will beat up Britain paid mercenaries. Common man, who are you trying to sell this to, no one is buying except the dim wits. Of course there are plenty of them in Lebanon, those Christians who lacked the intellect and dignity to join a Saudi puppet in Coalition called March 14 instead of forming own Christian Coalition and maintaining independence. Of course the Bishop, thank god is brainy and figured things out the right way, understood the serious danger that will eventually Lebanon will find on its boarders, surrounded. Those Christians supporting the Islamic Mercenaries Revolution are ignorant, we talking fascist like Lebanese Forces leader, a murderer for heaven sake. Those same Christians will need to remember Lebanon Civil War and how they could have lost Lebanon back then. They will all be refugee in Paris. I guess Sarkozy still see that is coming eventually anyway with a bit of delay. It is really a shame ??? ???? that
??? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ????? will act like puppy for a ??? ????? ????? ?? ???? ???????? ?????????, ??? ??? ????????

“…………..Prolonging the war by the regime will strain the army,……….”

It wills not, this is a cake walk for Syria hardened army, Lebanon Civil War and occupation for decades did not even strain it.

“………increase the chances for desertion,……”

Fantasy, no truth to this in practical reality. There is a system and in the army you follow command and superior orders or you will be shot. At one moment in time the army action and desertion could be possible, but that was on March 8 1963, when the mother of all bastards Louai Atassi and his brother and cousin ceased power and declared suspension of the Constitution. On Constitutional ground that army action is possible. Now there exist a Baathist Constitution and the State is recognized by all world countries, including United Nations, even country with a state of war declaration, Israel.

“…..impoverize the people,increasing the chance for the people to complain……”

It did not happen in DPRK, Belarus and may other countries. What you referring to as an actionable way, required a whole different kind of campaign and I assure you are not going to get any tips from me on that subject.

LOL! UnReal, stop being so touchy. Man you people are so intellectually immature you can’t even stand having a debate on history. Ya zalami when are you guys going to get out of a 1960s mentality and join the 21st century 🙂

And Germany didn’t have enough gold to cover the cost of reparations. Until the payments were suspended, the government thought it a neat trick to print money like there was no tomorrow. I hope some idiot from the idiots running the country has learned a lesson from the 1930s.

““This is not a conflict about Freedom and Democracy for Syria, this is the final conflict between good and evil””

So we are back to Saddam’s “Mother of all Battles”? And how did that work out for him?

I don’t think SNP is really with the SNP. Only someone with a grudge against the SNP could be so stupid that he’d blame prisoners for their own incarceration, and not the son of mal3oon aslo Hafez. Very strange way of thinking, these old men of the SNP. They claim to be secular, but all we hear is “Islam this and Muslims that and wa wa wa I blame Mohamad because I’m such a loser with blonde women”.

🙂

#100 All the smuggling in the country was done with the cooperation and participation of members of the Athad family and their associates.

“It looks like Homs is going to face a major operation soon,”

That’s always been the wet dream of the menhebaks. “When are you all gonna pound Homs into the dust!” Clearly forgetting that there is an army division inside Homs, and two outside it. Every week we hear the same “Any day now, we are gonna subdue Homs. Yeah, any day. I said so last week, but this week I mean it”

Toooooooz 🙂

“I was in syria 4 weeks ago and spend 90% of my time in Homs and wadi nasara”

And yet when I challenged you with a simple question on Homs, you turned tail and hide for a few months.

So, how many demonstrations did the SNP manage to hold in its 30s years? How many world leaders received its members? How many countries broke off relations with the Qurdaha mafia thanks to the SNP’s activities.

In fact, just what the has the SNP achieved during its existence, with the exception of a constant stream of whining and bitching about Muslims? It sounds like a really ineffectual party, even by Syrian standards 🙂

Islamophobia, the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt.

Bloody hopeless low IQ douchebags!!

just look at the mirror and see the L shape on your foreheads LOSERS eh!

The UN hall looked very empty for the Syrian speech.

Perhaps they were outside the building joining a demonstration.

Maybe the Syrian delegation chose a quiet time for their speech like very late at night or early morning.

@ SNP

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On one post you support Christians and attack Sunni Muslims in Syria. on the other post you attack Christians in Lebanon!!

Make up your two cells mind or you know what? go take your med wo 7el 3an tezna

“NK – the last thing i would want to do is make this video public.”

Dear God, at least no one can accuse you of being even slightly original. Hey guys, remember Mohamad Hamwi, who was supposed to have a treasure trove of videos? The menhebaks on Al Dunya ALWAYS claim to have damning and incriminating evidence that will BLOW THE CONSPIRACY APART but which for various reasons they can’t make public just yet. Maybe next week, yeah, remind me next week 🙂

Pathetic. Every hour the revolution releases iron-hard evidence of Betho’s crimes. There is enough out there to send him to the Hague for ten life times. And yet after six months, the feeble menhebaks still can’t tell us who is supposed to be paying Homsi garbage men 4000 liras to go out and demonstrate *facepalm*.

Oh yeah, and this information came from a “revolutionary”. Dude, why stop there? Why not make it a long standing member of the LCC, and a relative of someone on the National Transition Council, and a good friend of Michele Kilo to boot 🙂

115. NEW REGIME NEW HOPE,

Reform has been delayed in Syria due to foreign intervention…duh!
This is the newest invention, in a long list of lies.

Trader on the BBC says Eurozone Market will crash

In a scary and painfully frank interview a freaked out BBC interviewer is visibly shaken when market trader Alessio Rastani predicts that the “Market is Toast.” Apparently there is nothing Euro governments can do.

True

“On one post you support Christians and attack Sunni Muslims in Syria. on the other post you attack Christians in Lebanon!!”

And in one post he claims the SNP are persecuted for being opposed to the Baath, and in the next post he loves the Baath.

Very confused bunch, these old men of the SNP. Usually, when old geezers forget to take their medication, they mumble to themselves out of sight. Now, with the Internet, the whole world has to see their confused mumblings.

Dear Haytham

I’m not sure if you got a chance to check the constitution that Anwar Buni wrote a few years ago.

Here’s a link
http://al3asefah.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24887

I think that’s a good place to start.

ABOUD

Yeah bro just a waste of space, they’re funny when acting like kids with tears and running to the moderator.

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Via Houria Abdelouahed :
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Dernières informations sur Rafah Nached

Chers collègues, Rafah Nached se trouve dans une prison pour femmes.
Elle a droit à deux visites par semaine (durée de la visite : 30
minutes). Son état de santé est de plus en plus préoccupant. Son mari
(Professeur Faïsal Abdallah) m’a dit aujourd’hui [Lundi 26 Septembre]
qu’il était allé lui rendre visite. Mais Rafah était incapable de
rester debout pendant les 30 mn de l’entrevue. Nous avons fait
circuler des pétitions, collecté un certain nombre de signatures. Mais
ce n’est pas suffisant.

Rafah est accusée d’incitation au soulèvement, incitation au
renversement du gouvernement et non respect de l’ordre public. Elle
risque d’être condamnée à sept ans de prison.

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Last night on the BBC a documentary on the Syrian uprising was broadcast. Panorama is BBC’s prime time flagship investigative current affairs programme.

Panorama. Syria: Inside the Secret Revolution
30 minutes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b015flwq/Panorama_Syria_Inside_the_Secret_Revolution/

MESSAGE RECEIVED, WE FOLLOW YOUR COMMANDS

SNP @ 69 , 76, 86, 88, & 110
Thank you for relaying our message. We don’t have your credibility among you. The satanic forces led by one reptilian Elohim who has escaped from its subterranean banishment are about the encircle our multitude. We are very happy that the billions of our brethren SNP members have finally found a way to transcend their physical being and to migrate to your highness’s brain. As told by the first mammal to walk on two , this transmutation may cause an apparent incoherence to those who are not in the need to know or in the know . But we hear each and every one of those billions in your head through your mutual messages and have needed neither translation nor interpretation, and we suggest that you keep up the good work. We also suggest, as the first mammal who walked on two once said, that you talk to each others more. It is easily done if one stops those reptile medication your mother is forcing you to take. Avoid them as much as you can, for humanity’s future hinges on your continuing your message. You have succeeded with your combined intellect in throwing the enemies off the mark. Don’t take the medication.

END MESSAGE

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Every day that goes by, the regime looks more and more like George Orwell’s 1984. In that book, the population is deliberately kept in a state of poverty. It makes the Inner Party members easier to control, as every packet of cigarette or coffee ration becomes more valuable. When even being able to switch off one’s two-way television becomes a privilege, people’s loyalties can be bought with very little indeed.

Apparently, the regime realizes that it cannot deliver high standards of living to the country, and instead has embarked on a program of bringing down the standards of living of the Syrian people, to be better able to reward the shabiha with little crumbs left to it. In a country where importing new cars is banned, even beat up old clunkers are suddenly viewed in a new light.

The regime thinks that the whole world are shabiha, that every man, woman and child on the planet only act out of motivation for material rewards. They look on their bought Lebanese trumpets, and think that Azmi Beshara and Najati Tayara must likewise have been bought out by some unknown, undefinable foreign power. Qurdaha peasant thinking in all its simplicity.

“????? ???? ???? ??????”

That’s all No Klue has left, curses 🙂

Ya Bashar esma3 wa shoof, 3am ensebak 3al makshoof!

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We must put up with our oppressive dictators just because they say they are standing up to the west (in most cases they collude with the west in secret, just like Ghaddafi, that fake revolutionary did)?

And I don’t quite get your drift @123: yes, I agree Sudqi Ismail is a true revolutionary thinker who would put the present corrupt Baathists to shame, the ones who are using their Baathist label to rob Syria blind and who now would have your respected writer living in a prison cell. So which side are you on, the side of freedom from corrupt Baathist tyranny otherwise known as the Assadist Mafia and Associates, the side of freedom, democracy and unity for all Syrians or the side of this corrupt murderous sectarian gang that hijacked the lofty ideals of Hizib Al Baath al 3arabi al ishtiraki? [Dear Aboud, there’s another acronym you’re gonna love ASMAA…;-) ]

As Haytham Khouri said before, those who want a secular Syria for all Syrians should stop trying to smother this uprising, instead they should roll up their sleeves and participate in building that kind of Watan. But if they are beneficiaries of the A.S.M.A.A then they should come clean and say so instead of hiding behind the anti-west, anti-Israel sham (no pun intended).

Hey menhebaks, what changed for you guys since you kidnapped Harmoush? From what I’ve seen, all you managed to do was expose your agents in Turkey, which if half the things in the Turkish press are to be believed, is going to come out with a few sanctions of its own soon.

I’ll believe it when I see it, but the omens are not good for Besho. He is just a political amateur, he just doesn’t understand that some historical forces just can’t be stopped, no matter how many people he tries to kill.

The KKK couldn’t stop the American civil rights movements. The Vatican could never stop the Reformation. The Soviet hard liners were powerless against the wave of freedom that swept Eastern Europe and the USSR. Besho’s tragedy was that he happened to be president at this of all times. This revolution was going to succeed, spread and grow no matter what he tried.

And now he and his thugs are reduced to murdering university professors. When things get to that sorry state of affairs, not even the densest menhebak can deny the widespread penetration and appeal of the revolution, and that junior has become highly isolated from Syrian society, with the only loyalty being among people whose material interests are tied up with the regime.

Just finished watching the BBC documentary (@126) for the first time. I dont know what to say. Went thru every emotion.

A must watch.

All I will say is that the prayer of the oppressed is a powerful weapon. A very powerful weapon.

Aboud
About the standard of living of the Syrian people, could you just cut short your propaganda and admit you have the best autobus system of the Middle East? Your buses and roads are better than the ones I took in Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt. And the price is okay too, even in local standard (200 SP for 450 km between Damascus and Aleppo, that’s about 4 dollars).
If prices had been up in the recent years, it is true also everywhere else. I am sorry you only gaze at your own omphalos.
What do you expect in plunging Syria in a new Iraq? Do you think thugs will not find enough corrupted/confused/hungry souls to carry a programme of “targeted” killings and kidnappings?
The problem is that most Syrians have no idea of the standard of living in other countries because indeed, they hardly go out. Not only their own government is to blame for that, since Europe is a fortress and takes the money of the application but never give visas… Except for “friendly-thugs” of course. Mafia rules the world, it is a sad reality that starts to be obvious to everybody who has been reading financial news lately (and Berlusconi news, of course).

Another Joke of the Day by the non other than Walid Mu’alem, Syria’s Foreign Minister, known, among other things, for threatening to ignore and forget about Europe:

“???? ?????? ???????? ?????????? ???? ?????? ???????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ??? ????? ????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ????? ???? ???????.”

If you don’t know Arabic (shame on you), Walid Mu’alem was accusing the USA and Europe of violating human rights. The guy has the audacity to talk about human rights while people in Syria and killed and tortured in the most barbaric way by the Syrian government. This guy has no shame.

SNP
You are extremely disturbed person, and have illusions,none of your statements make sense,you said you are for freedom,and you support a brutal dictator,you also talk about Gaddafi,while we are talking about Assad,how could possibly any reasonable person defend Gaddafi knowing all the atrocities he had committed,unless the person is deeply disturbed,you said that your friend wishes that Gaddafi wipe out England and France armies,are you dreaming?

Norman
The regime is attacking Homs,and continue to use the army and the Shabbiha against the people of Homs, but if the regime try to wipe out Homs,even Russia will turn against Bashar,Bashar pretends that he is doing reform,but his action contradict his words,in this time of mobile phones and internet,I doubt that Hama 2 can be repeated.

C’mon ABOUD do you really expect X-Box or Menhebaks to understand what you’re talking about?

too much history and info for them, look around and check out SNK, SNP, Up Yours and little Joni then tell me if their 2 cells brains would be able to digest it? so just go easy on them unless someone who claims some knowledge pops out to debate eh.

So why Betho could not subdue the unrest in Homs so far?

@134 MNA said:

“About the standard of living of the Syrian people, could you just cut short your propaganda and admit you have the best autobus system of the Middle East?”

Yes even the Shabeeha use them to travel to their destination.

(Are they different buses?)

#126 Dear Uzair
Any chance of seeing this video elswhere as it seems restricted to BBC UK?

These are the true honerable syrians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL9wuQ7y7bs

Just as the Nir Rosen said “these protestors come from the slums”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSqXKLgojDg

Aboud how did u manage to get use of a computer? Ah i forgot you sold your ass to the Gulf tourist in lebanon, tripoli. Hope they drilled you nice and hard.

@139 A.S.S.A.D

Is it restricted. Damn!

I’ll take a look elsewhere.

I posted another documentary a couple of weeks ago. That must have been restricted too. Although yesterday I posted the youtube version of the 20 minute part covering Syria.

Losers listen up, don’t cry when i tell ya Up Yours!!

It’s really quite common in the Cymru land (Wales) and people use it like “shut up” or some sorts. So for those ignorant losers (too many of them around here) stop trying to translate it literally as UP YOUR A*S ok?

Up Yours Menhebaks!!

From SNN

????? ??? ?????? ???? ??????? ?????? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ????????
??? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ?? ????????? ????????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ???, ??????? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??? ??? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ?????? ????, ???? ??????? ???? ????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ???, ??? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ??????: ?? ??? ????? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ??????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ???????

#140 You know, I have a nickname, it’s Al Fatih. I got it after meeting Besho’s sister 🙂

“About the standard of living of the Syrian people, could you just cut short your propaganda and admit you have the best autobus system of the Middle East?”

Oh dear me, how long has it been since you’ve been to Syria. When we could use the small mini buses, things were great. Then the government gave contracts to its cronies to replace the small mini buses, with big massive green buses, for which no city in Syria has the roads for. The buses frequently need servicing, and on the ill equipped city roads, they causes all kinds of congestion. Yet another sad case of a few cronies benefiting at the expense of the people.

“What do you expect in plunging Syria in a new Iraq”

Turn that lecturing tone toward your president. Why was Najati Tayara arrested? How many of the 3000 Syrians killed were armed terrorists? It is your president that has tried everything he can to turn this into a sectarian war, in bungling his response to a country’s yearning for freedom.

“The problem is that most Syrians have no idea of the standard of living in other countries because indeed”

Bullshit. I find that patronizing sentence quite offensive. Syrians are very aware of the higher standards of living that their neighbors in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey live. They are very aware of the privileges even a garbage man in Europe gets. If a garbage man in Syria goes out to demand the same, he gets accused of taking 4000 liras a demo from God knows who.

Don’t think that Syrians are ignorant, it is you Baathist who are ignorant of the way the world’s political and economical systems have developed and evolved over the past 40 years. The Baathists are content to stay stuck in 1963. The Syrian people have spoken loudly and clearly, and such a brave and resilient country will not be denied by the Baath nor their pathetic 3rd rate power buddies in India and South Africa, and especially not by their Iranian theocratic Ayatollahs. Ya fake secular inta.

Every one living in Europe watch this, Ehsani is he right
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/26/trader-to-bbc-goldman-sachs-goldman-sachs-rules-the-world_n_981658.html

ABOUD ( islamic extremist ) –

you said Jordan has higher standards of living, with unemployment of 30% ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6xkSWaIU0Y&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uWrl4S8t7I&feature=relmfu

higher standards of living in lebanon ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqXmiLMsE1E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4H2hZsyHao

higher standards of living in turkey?

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=minimum-wage-in-turkey-is-below-the-poverty-line-2010-12-27

Aboudijan, when are you going to admit that you are not Syrian? Your a lebanese hater. I apologise if the syrian mukhabarat (deleted due to excessive profanity)………………..ehsani

125. agatha said:

Dernières informations sur Rafah Nached

AGatha, où trouver la pétition pour Rafah Nached ?

Moderator : the Kanj insults at #140 and #144 are a little too much. I have no problems with homosexuals but they should keep their phantasms private.

Honest Qestion to the board,
I’ve been following the Syrian revoution for quite a while and it seems to be at a stalement, a nasty one at that (is this really the situation?).
For those of you inside Syria: is Bashar loosing support? Or are the protestors loosing steam?
Is there a next step which can conceivably break the deadlock?
Thanks

104. Haytham Khoury said:

.. I did not tell my wife. That was simply because I am a very busy man and I do not remember what I tell and what I do not tell.
…

Come my friends join me writing the new constitution of Syria.

“”””
REALITY

Sometimes , your spouse and mother of your children gets a higher view than yourself.
So , if your spouse is suggesting that you should sit at your desk in your home “incommunicado” until you finish to translate the text of the Canadian constitution into Syrian as explained by Anwar Buni in

http://al3asefah.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24887

please follow her very wise advice .

Don’t worry Annie, Aboud can hold his own against BtB’s sycophants. Let them show their true face and nature. Notice how they ever-so- casually and matter-of-fact-like admit that BtB’s mukhabarat do torture people by impaling them. They do it so often they have become totally blase about it.

HEAR IT HERE ONCE MORE PEOPLE, M. KANJ SAID:

I apologise if the syrian mukhabarat shoved a batton up ur anus

This is the regime and it’s “security” system and their sycophants we have had to deal with for nearly 5 decades.

ABOUD and your fellow islamic terrorits –

here is one of your fanatical revolutionaries from Egypt. What he preaches is the reality of your revolution.

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/3115.htm

@ 148 – just admit that you are jealous that you never got to taste the batton. When it comes to islamic terrorists, the only way they should be treated is like DOGS AND CANNIBALS. I am a syrian sunni, and the 10% of the popultation whom these terrorists represent, should be all put to jail. Just ask the majority of sunni’s in syria who are sitting back and watching these terrorists in shame and disgust.

Aboud
What you state about buses in Syria indeed show you are not there. Plus you are certainly not the same Aboud posting all the time since March, because you would know i have stated repeatedly that I am not Syrian but I know Syria and have lived there and still have a lot of friends there.

@ 151 – its ok MINA, we all know ABOUD is not syrian and has never stepped foot in syria. His just a jihadist riding the bandwagon with his terrorist friends from the Gulf and Bin Laden Schools of thought

Dear Joshua Landis , ehsani and Otrakji ,

After following your blog for some time , I now have the feeling that the audience is dwelling during the last weeks as shown by the cumulative number of Thumb up / Thumb down after each comment for the comment section.

I will not explain the reasons of the defections as they should be obvious to you.

Can you publish the audience data you can easily collect from the stats module in your dashboard.
( not the individual IP address of commentators !!! )

Yes Mr “I have an apartment overlooking a military airport but never mentioned it until it was in the news” LOL! Or was that another generic menhebak? I dunno, these Persians all seem to be cut with the same cookie cutter.

Notice how the menhebak is incapable of saying how what I said is wrong or inaccurate, just the usual whine, “Aboud isn’t in Syria moderators why don’t you ban him wa wa wa!”

And what’s with the menhebaks preoccupation with gay sex? That’s all their posts contain, disturbing images of man on man love. I’m beginning to think that their obsession with Ar’or has a touch of macho-sadistic fantasies about it. Is the baker who baked the menhebaks a gay one?

I guess “Drill baby drill!” means something else to the menhebaks 🙂

Annie, let the menhebak make enough rope to hang himself. If the moderators continue to tolerate him the way they have, I can come up with alot of nice insults as well and drown this website in them.

Now, here’s a nice story that deserves to be posted again

Syria seeks cutback in oil production because of E.U. embargo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/syria-seeks-cutback-in-oil-production-because-of-eu-embargo/2011/09/26/gIQAbDdczK_print.html

Let’s see the Persians sugar coat this one 🙂

BRICS

REALITY
Brazil , Russia, India , China , South Africa are experiencing trouble from sectarian organization and armed gangs.

No wonder that these governments are very receptive to the facts and explanations of the Syrian government.

The UK ambassador to Syria’s blog. Excellent first post

http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/roller/collis/entry/the_truth_is_what_big

Areal, although that explanation may be comforting to your sort, that’s not the case. The 3rd rate powers of South Africa, India and Brazil are only on the security council until the end of the year, and until then they are indulging in one of the very few times they will be able to stick it to the USA and Europe. They are enjoying their pathetic little moment in the sun, at the cost of thousands of Syrian lives.

Syrians will not forget who their real friends were in these times. Nelson Mandela would be ashamed. And so would Ghandi.

The revolution should no longer be peaceful; the red line has been crossed long ago, brother !! Pick uo the gun and pierce yheir hearts with your bayonets and pluck out their hearts with the bayonet, so that Hassan Nasrallah get a chance to write more sad stuff for his Ashura. Ya Hussein Ya Hussein ya Ali Ali Ali Ya Fatima give me more 5 yr olds to sodomise !!!

Darryl, the Qur’an is for everyone, not just for Muslims, it is a sign for humanity, just think about it, in the Qur’an Muslims have been asked to protect Christians, so it is our obligation to protect people like you as protected persons; remember the names of people like Umar ibn al Khattab, Khalid ibn al Walid, Saad ibn Abi Waqqas and Amr ibn Aas; if these people wanted they could have exterminated the whole Christain population of Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. Middle Eastern Christains are very weak as they have shown time and again getting their ass kicked by all in Lebanon, so you need the protection of Sunni Muslims. Look at Lebanon, Christians have accepted the protection of Muslims, Gea and Gemayel are being protected by Hariri while Aoun is being protected by Nasrallah, all this despite that Christians control the top ecehelons of the Lebanese Army. As I said, Middle Eastern Christians are very weak, in 1864 the Druze who were just 5 % of Lebanese population were able to massacre and slaughter 10,000 Maronites who were 40 % of Lebanese population, just give it up, the only way out for you is to be protected persons under the Muslims , like Christains in Egypt, Lebanon, and elsewhere have already done, Syria is an irritating exception but it will follow sooner rather than later. Christians were better off under the Rigtheous Caliphs, in fact during Umar’s time Christians from Turkey and Armenia wanted to pay the Jizya so as to live in Syria and enjoy the great social services and security offered by the Rashid Caliphate.

And for all the Islamophbes, try doing some original research on Ilsam rather than listening to repetitive propaganda, try seeing the video lectures of Dr. Zakir Naik, or Abdul Rahim Green, and Sheikh Ahmad Deedat, and tell us what you think.

As I said, Middle Eastern Christians are very weak, in 1864 the Druze who were just 5 % of Lebanese population were able to massacre and slaughter 10,000 Maronites who were 40 % of Lebanese population, just give it up, the only way out for you is to be protected persons under the Muslims…

Khalid Tlass,

You aren’t making any sense. First you tell Christians to “give it up” to be “protected persons under the Muslims”, then you admit that the “Lebanese population were able to massacre and slaghter 10,000 Maronites”.

What kind of “protection” is that?

No, what is needed is freedom and RULE OF LAW; not Muslim states and their “promises” of protection or despots who use sectarianism and racism to control their population.

And if Christians are having such a difficult time, just think how nice it would be for Jews.

It’s time to enter the 21st century. The time is ripe for democracy, not Presidents-for-Life.

More on Muslim “protection”:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4128382,00.html

AP

“The time is ripe for democracy, not Presidents-for-Life.”

Are you implying that you are against the idea of my left toe ruling for 5 consecutive 6 year terms?

>_<

If you guys head over to the UK ambassador's blog, you see the typical menhebak whine;

"please STFU and join your 2 friends the Iraqi children butcher Robert Ford "

Tsk tsk, and these people wonder why are losing the media war. They make my work soooooo much easier 🙂

I just found out that India and SA are on the security council for one more year. But at least Lebanon and Brazil are out. It will be hard for the Indian/South African axis to keep its position against the rest of the security council. Today China made some very disturbing (at least to the Besho lovers) statements 🙂

3 Wasted Decades

Are you implying that you are against the idea of my left toe ruling for 5 consecutive 6 year terms?

Aboud,

Eeeeew! OTOH, it couldn’t be any worse than President Athad and his sidekick Asthma.

57. Aboud said:
¨¨¨¨
The 3rd rate powers of South Africa, India and Brazil are only on the security council until the end of the year,
¨¨¨¨
REALITY

The 2012 United Nations Security Council election will be held in October 2012 during the 67th session of the United Nations General Assembly, held at United Nations Headquarters in New York City. The elections are for five non-permanent seats on the UN Security Council for two-year mandates commencing on 1 January 2013.[1]

In accordance with the Security Council’s rotation rules, whereby the ten non-permanent UNSC seats rotate among the various regional blocs into which UN member states traditionally divide themselves for voting and representation purposes, the five available seats are allocated as follows:

One for Africa (held by South Africa)
One for Asia (held by India)
One for Latin America (held by Colombia)
Two for the Western European and Others Group (held by Germany and Portugal)

The five members will serve on the Security Council for the 2013–14 period.

To #100. John Khouri,
I am dismayed at your post. It shows a deep hatred for Sunnis. You are attaching all evil to the Sunni Muslims of Syria. Do you think this is fair?. Syria has been ruled by the Assads for over 40 years and yet you manage to blame the Sunni for everything. Why is that John?. Have you had a bad experience during your life time with Sunni Muslims?. And when you have a bad experience with someone, do you usually blame it on his or her religion instead of on that person’s bad character?. Do you truly believe that all Sunnis are bad and all Christians are good?. Have you ever had a good Sunni friend?. Can you think of one good experience where a Sunni person actually helped you?. Or this is when you thank character instead of the person’s religion?. Or were you just raised to hate Sunnis?.
I just would like to point out that there is the bad and the good in every religion. Let us not stereotype. Let us judge people by their actions not by what God they worship.

151. Mohamed Kanj said:

“I am Sunni”, start packing your bags as you will be expelled to Iran along with Fashar. As one poster mentioned, if there really were jihadist groups, then the death rate of the shabiha, mukhabarat and army would be tenfold. Be careful what you wish for, and if the despicable Nusayri regime doesn’t stop its onslaught, it will rue the day it seized power. It’s over menhebek majaneen. Start packing your bags to Iran.

155. Aboud said:

Yes Mr “I have an apartment overlooking a military airport but never mentioned it until it was in the news” LOL!

Aboud,

That was me MNA and not MINA who said the above.
Am I the only one on this forum who did not give details about where they live?

Abu Umar, “KANJ” is a Lebanesen Shia surname from the Jabal Amil in south Lebanon. You should have realised that.

To #134. Mina,
You are right. Our inter-city bus system is quite good and pretty well priced, but have you seen:
1- our schools?
2- our teachers?
3- our public restrooms?
4- our public libraries?
5- our government institutions?
6- our judicial system?
7- our agricultural policies?
8- our economic policies?
The list goes on, but I do not want to bore you. Bottom line, you managed to find one of the few things that are half decent in Syria, otherwise, every thing else is in miserable shape.
You said: “Europe is a fortress and takes the money of the application but never give visas… Except for “friendly-thugs” of course”. The reason why we are not given visas to Europe easily is because they know that we will stay there and never come back. It seems that the good inter-city bus system is not enough of a reason for Syrians to stay in Syria.

#164 you are only half right (but still pretty good for a menhebak). 3rd rate India and South Africa keep their seats until the end of 2012, but Brazil and Lebanon are out. I don’t see how the Indian/South African axis can hold out against the rest of the security council, especially with China making the statements it did today.

“Am I the only one on this forum who did not give details about where they live?”

No one gives details on where they live. Only an idiot would. Which is why I’m dubious as to why you’d want to tell people where you live just to score cheap debating points. Anyway, to each their own.

Sheila

“I am dismayed at your post. It shows a deep hatred for Sunnis”

If it walks like a Persian, quacks like a Persian, hates over a span of 1400 years like a Persian, it sure as heck isn’t a Christian Homsi 🙂

To #140. Mohamed Kanj,
Last time I checked, people from “the slums” were still considered human beings.

REALITY
125 United Nations member states ( out of more than 190 ) so far elected to the United Nations Security Council, including the five permanent members, .

Syria elected 7 times , first in 1947 last in 2003

more or as often and earlier than

Mexico
Romania
Turkey
Yugoslavia
Algeria
Austria
Bulgaria
Costa Rica
Cuba
Ecuador
Gabon
Ghana
Indonesia
Philippines
Sweden
Tunisia
Ukraine
Zambia
Ireland
Malaysia
New Zealand
Portugal
Uganda
Bangladesh
Benin
Bolivia
Burkina Faso
Cameroon
Côte d’Ivoire
Ethiopia
Finland
Greece
Guinea
Guyana
Hungary
Iraq
Jamaica
Jordan
Kenya
Lebanon
Libya
Mali
Mauritius
Morocco
Nepal
Nicaragua
Republic of the Congo
Senegal
Tanzania
Zaire
Zimbabwe
Czechoslovakia
South Africa
Angola
Bahrain
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Burundi
Byelorussian SSR
Cape Verde
Ceylon
Croatia
Czech Republic
Djibouti
Gambia
East Germany
Guinea-Bissau
Honduras
Iran
Kuwait
Madagascar
Malta
Mauritania
Namibia
Niger
Oman
Paraguay
Republic of Korea
Rwanda
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Slovakia
Slovenia
Somalia
Sudan
Thailand
Togo
Trinidad and Tobago
Qatar
United Arab Emirates
United Arab Republic
Uruguay
Vietnam
Yemen
Liberia

Give you an idea of the skills of Syrian diplomats !!

170. Aboud said:

#164 you are only half right (but still pretty good for a menhebak). 3rd rate India and South Africa keep their seats until the end of 2012, but Brazil and Lebanon are out.
REALITY
My subject was BRICS and as far I know Lebanon is not part of BRICS.
I am 100% right.

Therefore , regarding your diversion on the Security Council ,
you were 66.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 % wrong .

To #151. Mohamed Kanj,
I am a Sunni Muslim and it just happens that 90% of the Sunnis I know are with the revolution and against the regime. So please stop talking like you represent the majority of Sunnis, because you represent no one but yourself.
I am quite disgusted with your language and vulgarity. This is a forum for exchanging ideas not insults. If you think you can get your point across better by using these vulgarities, think again. All you do is expose yourself for who you really are.
I am ashamed and disgusted that you and I belong to the same religion.

128. Syria no kandahar said:

Don’t let the door hit you on your way out of Syria. The pathetic cries of a menhebek dead-ender.

@172 Dude, your insecurity is painful to witness. Put a few more digits behind the decimal point. You might excuse yourself by saying you were talking about the BRICS, but I didn’t have the BRICS in mind.

But hey, menhebak is desperate for any sort of validation.

I notice that I’ve mentioned China several times, but none of the menhebaks want to talk about its shift in tone. They don’t like to discuss uncomfortable topics. Which leaves them nothing to discuss except conspiracies and gay fantasies LOL!

” 168. Khalid Tlass said:

Abu Umar, “KANJ” is a Lebanesen Shia surname from the Jabal Amil in south Lebanon. You should have realised that.”

Khalid, this might be a portent. This psychopath Kanj might be related to Bassam Kanj(Sunni), whom the Lebanese and Syrian army needed 10000 men to take him and a few hundred men on in Dinniyeh. Be careful what you wish for menhebek majaneen.

I’m looking over the resolutions of the UN Security council when the junta’s UN ambassador was a member during 2002-2003.

It voted for 1481, which gave more powers to the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia. LOL! Hypocrites.

Syria’s representative didn’t participate in the vote on 1483, which extended the food for oil program. Baathist wimps.

It voted for 1482, “Extends terms of judges at the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda”. Hypocrites.

On almost every single other issue, the Baath’s representative obligingly toed the line and humbly voted as the other great powers told them to. “Muqawama” LOL! If everything the US does is a conspiracy, the Baath regime voted for every single conspiracy when they got on the UN security council.

H. Clinton ‘subtly’ threatens Lebanon if it does not abide to the US sanctions against Syria.

“We also cautioned the prime minister that Lebanon needs to be very, very careful in not getting caught up in the unrest in Syria, in terms of not allowing Lebanon to be a way for Syria to evade sanctions and accountability for the brutality that the Syria government is showing against its people,” he said.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2011/Sep-27/149804-us-warns-mikati-over-syria-sanctions.ashx#ixzz1Z9qXKi5e
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

Sheila
I agree with the poor state of the afore-mentioned, but it also means that many people are corrupt. I think it is deeply a consequence of the culture of patriarchy, and is not going to change with a regime change. See Greece? See Italy? See Lebanon? See Egypt? See Pakistan?

FYI a letter from Nelson Mandela, I have noticed some frequent blogger referring to N Mandela,
This is a voice of reason from someone who endured long years of oppression, imprisonment , and humiliation
There is very little chance that any of the “day of anger” guys and gals would absorb this, but it is worth a shot,
I wish I have the time you have to blog back and fourth, unfortunately I don’t, plus this dialogue resembles what goes in the middle east when even just 2 friends argue, they start insulting, show ther ugliest features, and the whole point , in this case the destiny of our loved ones in Syria ,will be lost.

A serious consideration is asked from the moderators to really try to persuade people away from resorting to insults, direct and vicious attacks on religious and ethnic groups .
I am fearing that these attacks are very purposeful , not just in the context of a heated blog.

Moderators should try to elevate the level of this blog back to a polite, and civil discussion aimed to bring up the best of people that now are showing their worst.

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Dear #179. Mina,
You bring up a very valid point: “many people are corrupt. I think it is deeply a consequence of the culture of patriarchy”. Yes, we do have deep seeded cultural issues, however, this does not mean that we throw our hands in the air and call it quits. We can change and improve. It takes a government that is working for the best interest of its people. I can give you many examples to prove my point:
1- A dictatorial example: Franco of Spain. A brutal dictator who was detested by the Spaniard when he was alive. He took over Spain after a destructive civil war in the thirties. When he died in the seventies, Spain was one of the top ten most industrialized nations in the world. He also managed to civilize the Spaniards by the carrot and stick methodology.
2- A current example: India. If any country suffers from deep seeded cultural issues it is India. No other country can claim a more patriarchal and backwards social culture. Yet, with the political will for change, India today is leaps and bounds ahead. It graduates some of the best educated people around the world and has created a very strong middle class. It is true that it still has a long way to go, but it is well on its way.

I can really go on and on, but what I am trying to tell you is that the fatalistic position of : “this is the way we are. We will always be at the bottom of the barrel”. is wrong. We can change and we can be very successful. Look at the Syrians who leave the country. Many become very successful. So, given the right environments and having the will, Syria can be an advanced nation. This current regime has proved beyond reasonable doubt that it has no interest in change. Removing this regime does not mean the end of Syria’s problems. It will be a very hard transition, but it is the only way that Syria will have any hope in a bright future.

REALITY
China calls on International community to respect Syria’s sovereignty

Sep 27, 2011

New York,
Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi called on the international community to respect Syria’s sovereignty, independence and security, implicitly warning of any international act against Syria.

AFP quoted Jiechi as saying in a speech at the UN General Assembly meeting on Monday that Beijing hopes the different sides in Syria avoid any form of violence and ease the situation as soon as possible.

For his part, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov underlined the importance of supporting the Syrian government in carrying out reforms.

Russia’ Today Channel quoted Lavrov as calling, in a TV dialogue with an American Channel, on the Syrian opposition to conduct dialogue with the Syrian government, accept the announced reforms, underlining, at the same time, the necessity for stopping violence.

#181 Where is the Baathist F.W de Klerk? They have murdered thousands of Syrian Mandelas. Of course, the losing Baathist side would plead and pray for reconciliation after the revolution, but what the country needs is something along the lines of the Nuremberg trials.

Call it a conspiracy all you want, but no one forced the Baathist scum to murder Giath Matar. Nor did anyone force the despicable and gutless Baathist losers on this forum to claim he was an MB member on a suicide mission. Disgusting Qurdaha mentalities. Walla lan tale3 rabkon Hafez men qabro wa nehroqo.

Statement by Minister Al-Moallem at UN General Assembly on the current events in Syria and reforms taken by the Syrian leadership

Sep 27, 2011

Mr. Walid al-Moallem Minister for Foreign Affairs and Expatriates of the Syria Arab Republic

At the General Debate of the 66th session of the United Nations General Assembly

Your Excellency Nassir Bin Abdel-Aziz al-Nasser

President of the 66th session of the UNGA

Allow me to congratulate you on your election as President of this session of the General Assembly. I wish you success in your endeavors to promote the interests of our international organization. I salute your predecessor, Mr. Joseph Diess and express to him our appreciation for successfully presiding over last year’s session.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Allow me first to address the current situation in Syria, our position in regard to this situation and to the circumstances and events unfolding inside and outside the country. Positions and circumstances of states are undeniably governed by their geopolitical realities and by the constraints and demands stemming there from. They are equally influenced by the repercussions they endure, the stances they adopt and the price they pay, be that high or low for their positions towards these questions.

The Syrian Arab republic is located in the heart of the Middle East region. This location determined the major role which Syria played in the balances and politics in the Arab world and the region in general. For many decades, Syria faced major challenges and stood-up firmly against attempts to curtail its role and divert the national course it charted for itself. It is no secret that Syria upheld its national sovereignty and the independence of its national decision. This position has always been one of the primary pillars of Syrian Foreign policy.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Syria spared no effort in support of the legitimate struggle of the Palestinian people and championed resistance governments. Syria upheld its inalienable right to liberate the entire occupied Syrian Golan to the line of June 4, 1967. At the same time,

Syria extended a hand of friendship to all states, and built its international relations on mutual respect and reinforcing interests. It used its leverage to serve and promote the centerpiece of Syrian national prerogatives, namely the Middle East question to liberate the land and restore the rights. Following the occupation of Iraq, Syria was dragged into another battle. It had to choose between enduring siege and isolation or submitting to dictates.

Again Syria summoned all its must to prevail, despite the exorbitant price we had to pay- at the expense of other priorities and domestic interests. We emerged from this battle having gained strength while preserving the independence of our decision and safeguarding our national prerogatives.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

There are two sides to the problem Syria faces today: on the one hand, the country needs the people-driven political, economic and social reforms.President Bashar al-Assad already declared that these reforms are needed and due. He expressed a strong desire to accomplish them. But the force of the political circumstances to which I have briefly alluded earlier forced internal demands- important as they were- to take a back seat to other priorities, Our overriding priority was facing the external pressures which at times tantamount to blatant conspiracies.

On the other hand, popular demands and claims have been manipulated to further objectives which are alien to the interests and express desires of the Syrian people. These demands were the stepping stone used by armed groups to sow discord and sabotage our security. They became the new pretext for foreign interventions. Syria exercised its responsibility to protect its citizens. It acted to guarantee their safety and stability.

Vigilance against the danger of foreign intervention that assumes a different form with every passing day, and challenging it does not mean underestimating popular demands. These demands have already been accommodated prior to the recent events.

In our view, these are needed reforms that have fallen due. Many of their elements have been already met. Those reforms are a work in progress that will continue through national dialogue in the context of national unity, sovereignty and independence. Ladies and Gentlemen, To shed more light on the situation, I will recall at this juncture the statement that President Al-Assad made on June 20 of this year.

In this statement, the President declared reform measures comprising new laws: the political parties Act to guarantee political pluralism, the information Act to lay the ground for free and independent media, the parliamentary elections act and the local demonstration Act.

The proposed reform measures were to be culminated by a thorough examination and review of the Syrian constitution. The review would delete certain articles to allow for political pluralism and democratic practices. It may even lead to framing a new constitution that would guarantee all of the above. The Constitution is the backbone of the political, economic and social life of states. This reform measures will definitely respond to the popular demands and needs.

Furthermore, the President left the door open to views and proposals on the reform effort in general. In a TV interview that followed, the President announced that a time line has been set to agree on and implement the proposed reforms in no more that six months. This is an extremely important stance which requires a serious in-depth national dialogue to arrive at the desired mechanisms and results.

A comprehensive dialogue began a couple of weeks ago in different Syrian governorates. Representatives of various sectors of the Syrian society including opposition figures joined the process to examine the comprehensive, political, economic, and social components of the proposed reform package.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

We deeply regret the surge in the activities of armed groups in Syria which have not waned and instead continued to spiral. The presence of these groups, which of itself is the other aspect of the problem in Syria, is the manifestation of foreign intervention. We expected the states that advocate the need for reform and change to support the Syrian official position instead of opting for incitement and defiance.

In fact, the more ground we cover towards stability and reform, the stronger the foreign incitement. Armed violence surges in tandem with multiple economic sanction. By targeting the Syrian economy with sanctions, the United States and the European Union jeopardize the interests and the basic daily subsistence needs of the Syrian people.

The course can’t in a way be reconciled with pronouncements about concern for the interests, security and rights of the Syrian people. It further runs counter to the basic principles of human rights in defense of which these states base their interference in our internal affairs.

It must be recalled that the Charter of our organization states that “Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the UN to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state.”

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Syria provided our region with a model of peaceful coexistence among the different components of the Syrian people, a model which deserves to be emulated. It opted for secularism to promote its national unity in view of the religious and ethnic diversity of the region to which it belongs, a region that was the cradle of divine religious and the birthplace of human civilization.

Any objective analysis of the events in and around Syria will demonstrate clearly that the purpose of the unjust anti-Syria campaign currently underway is to attack the model of coexistence that has been a source of pride to our people. How can we otherwise explain media provocations, financing and arming religious extremism? What purpose could this serve other than total chaos that would dismember Syria- and consequently adversely affect its neighbors? What else could this course achieve other than spreading Western hegemony over the countries of the Mediterranean and serving Israel’s expansionist interests?

I assure you that our people are determined to reject all forms of foreign intervention in their internal affairs. We shall continue pursue security and stability. We shall proceed in implementing the comprehensive program of reform through national dialogue to turn Syria within months into a model of political pluralism and an oasis for peaceful coexistence among the different components of its people. .

From this rostrum I call on states which have partaken in the unjust campaign against Syria to reconsider their positions. To them I say our people will foil your schemes.

I also express our appreciation and thanks to the countries that stood by our people’s side in this crisis, pre-empted any harm that could have befallen their interests and encountered them to pursue their aspirations.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

For years, the international community has considered the two-sates solutions the basis for establishing peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

The negotiations between the two sides continued for years. They have failed though to achieve any progress towards a solution due to Israeli well known positions and measures. Therefore, the international community’s pursuit of the recognition of Palestinian statehood on the Palestinian territories occupied in 1967 is legitimate. It is a positive step in the direction of restoring all the Palestinian rights. Syria calls on the international community to support this request. .

Our position on declaring the Middle East a nuclear weapon free zone is established and known. We continue to call for exercising pressure on Israel to implement international resolutions that have called on it to accede to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, and submit its importance to the security and stability of our region. We at the same time stress that all states have the right to acquire nuclear technologies for peaceful purposes. This right is guaranteed by the NPT.

We renew the call to lift the embargo that has been enforced on Cuba for decades.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

We aspire to a more just and secure world. This international organization has a major role to play in this regard. It can play this role more effectively if some powerful states gave up attempts to further their own agendas. We still hope that the international community will be able to follow the right course to bring about a better world to which our peoples aspire.

Goodbye, balloon of Baathist UN-reality, you are about to burst. LOL! Khazoooooooooq!

US urges China for strong UN action on Syria: official

(AFP) – 20 hours ago

NEW YORK — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged China to back a strong UN Security Council resolution on Syria when she met Monday with Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi, a senior US official said.

Their conversation “had to do with the need for a strong UN Security Council resolution that calls for the violence to end,” the senior US State Department official told reporters on the condition of anonymity.

“I think it’s fair to say that foreign minister Yang understood and supported the notion of the Security Council taking further action and they agreed to have our ambassadors work on this in the coming days,” the official said.

Speaking at the UN General Assembly on Wednesday, US President Barack Obama called for UN Security Council sanctions on Syria, saying there was no excuse for inaction when people were being tortured and murdered by their government.

But US officials said Clinton’s conversation with Yang was more general than the issue of sanctions.

America’s western allies have joined Washington in imposing sanctions against Syria, but Russia and China have opposed attempts to frame a sanctions regime in the Security Council and threatened to veto any such resolution.

China, Russia, the United States, Britain and France make up the five veto-wielding permanent members of the UN Security Council.

Dear #181. Alescander,
Thank you for posting the Nelson Mandela letter. Very nice and profound. It takes a lot of foresight and constraint to be able to do this.
You said: “There is very little chance that any of the “day of anger” guys and gals would absorb this, but it is worth a shot“. I take offense in this statement. The majority of us are neither “day of anger“ people, nor limited and narrow minded as you imply.

REALITY
Simon Collis
Ambassador to Syria, Damascus

I am very happy to return to Syria, the country where I first studied the Arabic language over 25 years ago, and which I have regularly visited since. I return at an important time for our relations, and for the region.

The British Government will continue to support the reform process in Syria through dialogue and partnership with the Government and people of Syria.

http://ukinsyria.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/our-embassy/our-ambassador/

Aboud, you let this one slip away unless I am dwindelling on the wrong word.

154. Areal said:

I now have the feeling that the audience is dwelling during the last weeks as shown by the cumulative number of Thumb up / Thumb down after each comment for the comment section.

#188 Dude, now you are reaching. Really, really reaching. In fact you are starting to look even more pathetic than usual.

This was Ambassador Collis’ article just a few hours ago. I’m dying to see you sugar coat it with your own peculiar brand of Baathist reality LOL!

Simon Collis
Ambassador to Syria, Damascus
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The truth is what big brother says it is
Posted 26 September 2011 by e-Media Global | 22 Comments

I’ve been British Ambassador in Syria for the last four years. Last weekend I decided to start this blog after Syria passed a terrible milestone. The Syrians have now endured six months of unrest and violent suppression of mostly peaceful protests. As they now look towards the next six months with a mixture of uncertainty, fear and hope, I wanted to share some personal impressions about what’s happening. Some thoughts about why it’s happening. And maybe to spark some debate about what comes next and what can be done.

In doing so I am privileged. Because I can. The last six months have shown the Syrians can too. But in doing so, they face censorship, threats and arbitrary arrest.

The Syrian regime doesn’t want you to know that its security forces and the gangs that support them are killing, arresting and abusing mostly peaceful protesters: The UN says over 2,700 people have died in the last six months, some of them under torture in prison. It doesn’t want you to know that it is preventing many from meeting peacefully to discuss reform. It wants you to hear only one version of the truth – its own. And to see only one way out – the return to authoritarian rule where fear surpasses a desire for freedom. This is a regime that remains determined to control every significant aspect of political life in Syria. It is used to power. And it will do anything to keep it.

People say that in today’s world it’s no longer possible to hide the truth. A lot’s been said about the power of Twitter and Facebook, the inability for information to be censored in Tunisia and Egypt. The cruel reality in Syria is that they are doing all they can to pull the shutters down.

Foreign journalists are refused entry. Any non-Syrian local correspondents are kicked out – sometimes after a beating. Syrian correspondents, bloggers and citizen journalists are systematically tracked down and imprisoned. It’s a criminal offence to have a satellite phone. Mobile phone and internet networks are heavily monitored, or connection reduced to a crawl especially on Fridays. They are cut entirely anywhere the security forces mount mass arrest campaigns or send heavy armour into cities. Websites and satellite TV channels are blocked, with help from Iran. Before the start of this crisis Reporters Without Borders already ranked Syria as the fifth worst place in the world for media freedom. Over the last six months it’s got worse. A lot worse. The regime wants to create its own truth. We should not let it.

Is it a bird, is it a bullet? It’s Syria’s new media law!

I suppose we all learn early in life that there’s quite a difference between saying something and doing it. Like pretty much all of its reform programme to date, the regime’s answer to its critics was to announce that there would be a new media law; and that a committee had been set up to draft it. But you don’t need a new law to decide to let journalists in. You don’t need a new media law to prevent the big brother mentality that prevails here. You just need to decide to stop restricting media freedoms, and then to act on your decision. And until that happens, why should anyone believe that anything will be different?

Mind the gap

I’ve got a feeling that this gap between reality and promise will sadly continue. President Assad has announced a big reform programme, several times. It’s got a lot of stuff in it that sounds pretty good. Some laws are indeed being passed, and there are more to come. But when you read the fine print, what you tend to find is that every path that’s signposted towards increased freedom and openness actually winds back to a chokepoint. Every avenue leads to a regime official who only lets through what he’s told to let through. Everyone else has to turn back. Or face the consequences.

Shine a light

Even so, brave individuals continue to find ways through to get out video clips that show Syrian security forces firing into crowds of unarmed protesters, or abusing detainees – you can search for them on YouTube. I’m constantly amazed at their skill, daring and ingenuity in finding ways to capture and upload pictures of events on the ground in something close to real time. Regime attempts to dismiss most of this as the fabrications of a foreign conspiracy are absurd.

But without context, it can be hard to make sense of jumpy grainy images. And tragically, repetition dulls the senses. Unless we have some information about what’s happening and why, we risk forgetting that another day, another death is real. It is not just an image of people in a street we don’t recognise, in a town we’ve never been to, chanting slogans in a language that perhaps we don’t understand.

That’s where I hope to come into the picture. As far as I’m concerned this blog will be worth it if it helps to get a discussion going – on this page, with your friends, or even just inside your head – about what’s happening, why it’s happening, and why it matters. Thanks for sticking with me this far. I hope you’ll want to take a look at the next installment.

Daaaaamn dude, that sounds pretty damning coming from a diplomat. Did the MB buy him out too?

Annie, thanks for pointing that one out. It is bizarre phrases like this that convinces me the menhebaks are Persians. It doesn’t even sound like they are trying to translate from Arabic into English. Maybe Farsi though….

Wow, the Ambassador !

http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/roller/collis/entry/the_truth_is_what_big

quite a contrast with the official site

http://ukinsyria.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/our-embassy/our-ambassador/

Do you think that Ariel means the Ambassador did not write the entry in the blog ? Aboud, confess ! It is you !

Reality challenged menhebak, that particular page went up in 2007. Guess what, if you look outside your baathist reality field, you’ll notice the world has changed quite a bit since then. Like some Earl Grey tea with that khazoooooooq? 😉

@ Areal# 148

Thank you very much. I never looked at that document, although I heard about it. It is very helpful. I have had recently some exchanges with Anwar Al-Buni, but all were regarding unifying the opposition.

Annie, that page went up in 2007 when the ambassador was first appointed. Poor feeble menhebaks think it’s recent. They are clutching at any straw now.

I’m sure they looked around for a date, and noticed the copyright 2011 at the bottom. That is what’s known as a footer, it is automatically generated on all the website’s pages 🙂

Sheila
If you say Franco’s dictatorship brought the Spaniards somewhere, you probably show us why most Syrians have been ok for 40 years with the kind of regime they had. Actually I know people who protested in Hamidiyye and Midan who explain me that Hafez al Asad was good but that Bashar is stupid… You get an idea of their education level.
You didn’t read my reply to your idea of shari’a in the constitution (previous post and comments section).
About India, do you really think this great (Western, if I follow your standards) education would have been achieved without the UK having colonized the place and pre-empted its elite for quite a while, and the special relation that allowed a lot of this elite study in top schools such as Oxford and Cambridge? What you say about India is pure denial of the wild corruption and savagery that is taking places in many places far from cameras.
About bringing democracy to Syria in a week, I am afraid you have to admit it is right on the geopolitical frontline, and no one cares about the lack of civil rights in China, businessmen all around the world are just too happy to make business with them. You can imagine if the Syrians were 80 millions (like the Egyptians) or more than one billion (like China), not a single newspaper would ever mention any protest: they could kill half the population as long as Vodafone can sell subscriptions to those who remain.

So not only is the world imposing sanctions on us, but our government has decided that we should impose sanctions on ourselves. What an amazing fiscal policy!

Mina, if I may

“You can imagine if the Syrians were 80 millions (like the Egyptians) or more than one billion (like China), not a single newspaper would ever mention any protest”

But the Egyptians ARE 80 million, and yet the protests there were front page news the world over.

Now, you are correct when you say that economic interests trump human rights concerns with regards to China. So it begs the question; what stopped the Baathists from building up Syria to be a considerable economic force in the region? Syria has resources in abundance, water, a hard working population and cheap labor force.

Economic power brings with it political influence, that is undeniable. The Baathists choose to enrich a few cronies at the expense of the population, and as a result their only friends today are Russian and Chinese arms dealers, and 3rd rate powers like India and South Africa, who want to stick it to the West while they still can.

If the world turns a blind eye towards human suffering for the sake of business interests, then the Baathists are doubly guilty of allowing the Syrian economy to fall into such a sad state, that no one, not even Turkey, sees any economical benefits to staying friends with them. For that level of incompetence alone, people call Besho stupid. How can you possibly blame them.

Agatha

This is the AFP article from Sammy Ketz that is responsible for Mrs Rafah Nached’s arrest

“The paradox is, everyone is scared in Syria,” says Rafa Nashed, a psychoanalyst and one of the organisers of the gatherings at a Jesuit home in the centre of Damascus.

“Why does the regime use violence and repression? Because it is scared of losing power. And the people who protest, do you think they are not scared? They are very scared, but they are still going.”

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2011/Aug-31/147618-fear-unites-syrians-of-all-faiths.ashx#ixzz1ZASB2HUP
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

Lettre du mari de Rafah Nached aux journaux
http://acfmp.wordpress.com/2011/09/27/une-lettre-du-mari-de-rafah-nached-aux-journaux/
Le Monde ,Le Figaro, Libération, Lorient, LeJour Alsafir

A propos de l’arrestation de Madame Rafah Nached, psychanalyste syrienne

Monsieur, Madame

Vous avez publié récemment des informations sur l’arrestation de la psychanalyste syrienne Rafah Nached (66 ans qui a des problèmes de santé) à l’aéroport de Damas, le 10 septembre 2011. Elle est toujours détenue, après 5 jours de disparition entre les mains des services de la sécurité militaire. Nous vous remercions pour toutes les informations justes et claires que vous avez diffusées pour soutenir notre demande de sa libération. D’autre part, nous voulons vous informer que Madame Nached n’a jamais exercé aucune activité politique, ni d’activités autre que son travail de psychanalyse. Au début des événements dramatiques qui se déroulent actuellement en Syrie, elle a entrepris un projet de travail de thérapie de groupe avec un collègue, père jésuite psychanalyste aussi. Ce travail était fondé sur le psychodrame et se tenait dans les lieux de prière des jésuites à Damas. Un jour, un journaliste de l’AFP a assisté à une scène de psychodrame sur la peur. A la suite de quoi, il a publié un article sur ce psychodrame, et bien qu’on lui ait demandé de ne pas citer de noms des personnes présentes, il a cité le nom de Madame Rafah dans son article. Vous trouverez ci-joint l’article de AFP et les correspondances entre Madame Nached et le journaliste Sammy Ketz, article qui a causé certainement son arrestation en même temps que mis sa vie en danger. Nous souhaitons que vous donniez votre témoignage sur cette affaire pour nous aider à sa libération. Quant au journal, l’Orient le Jour, il a publié une caricature en citant son nom, ce qui jette de l’huile sur le feu et augmente le danger de sa vie en prison. Nous vous remercions pour votre attention et nous vous demandons de publier cette lettre dans votre journal. Fayssal Abdallah Professeur d’histoire a l’Université de Damas Mari de madame Rafah Nached

189. annie said:

Aboud, you let this one slip away unless I am dwindelling on the wrong word.

154. Areal said:

I now have the feeling that the audience is dwelling during the last weeks as shown by the cumulative number of Thumb up / Thumb down after each comment for the comment section.

REALITY

Obviously a whole lot of people read for a full 4 hours 20 min :

I now have the feeling that the audience is dwindling during the last weeks as shown by the cumulative number of Thumb up / Thumb down after each comment for the comment section.

194. Aboud said:

Annie, that page went up in 2007 when the ambassador was first appointed. Poor feeble menhebaks think it’s recent. They are clutching at any straw now.

I’m sure they looked around for a date, and noticed the copyright 2011 at the bottom. That is what’s known as a footer, it is automatically generated on all the website’s pages

REALITY
I knew perfectly that the UK ambassador arrived in Syria 4 years ago from Qatar.
His first sentence of his statement is
“I am very happy to return to Syria”

The last sentence of my quoting of his statement
”
The British Government will continue to support the reform process in Syria through dialogue and partnership with the Government and people of Syria
”
is very disturbing.

A government has a partnership with another government :
it is the normal job of an ambassador.

A partnership of a government with the people of another country is called :

FOREIGN CONSPIRACY

Someone earlier asked for Syria Comment’s recent stats.

Here they are for the past 30 days:

85,832
Visits

30,777
Absolute Unique Visitors

173,265
Pageviews

Yesterday there were 2266 visits… about average for SC.

You can see the number of all visitors on the right column of the blog. Now it is 3,182,013 visitors. Check it tomorrow and you will be able to calculate the difference from today.

“A partnership of a government with the people of another country is called :

FOREIGN CONSPIRACY”

Soooooo….um…dear me, I’m seriously starting to worry for the mental health of the menhebaks. From the sentence “The British Government will continue to support the reform process in Syria through dialogue and partnership with the Government and people of Syria”, the reality challenged menhebak has extracted a conspiracy going back to 2007…..and based in Qatar no less.

Dude, what would you have liked the UK ambassador to have said?

“BIL RO7 BEL DAM NAFDEEK YA BATHAR BATHAR WA BAS WA TOZ BIL SHA3B EL SOURI!”

Do you people see conspiracies in your morning cereal? You realize that if you get an STD from all the gay sex you people fantasies about, it isn’t Al-Jazeera’s fault?

Anyway, send off an email to the embassy, and tell them you caught them red handed with proof of their conspiracy dating back to 2007. Seriously dude, in your repeated attempts to dig yourself out of the holes of your own making, you only manage to sound even more outlandish.

“173,265
Pageviews ”

25% of them are me 🙂

Anyway Alex, since you apparently find comments like #145 and others like it acceptable to your blog, I will response in kind from now on.

#146
Dear ANNIE,
have a look here: http://www.oedipe.org/phpPetitions/index.php?petition=3

#198
thanks JIHANNE

Alex and Ehsani

Why are comments like 145 tolerated? I thought there is a clear policy stated above.

under duress, syria comments presents:

the cubicle jewmates featuring tara

today, everyday, their single “we lie like dogs” from their dustbin cd “rote propagandists”

will, as usual, be bleated.

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September 27, 2011
Fearing Change, Many Syrian Christians Back AssadBy THE NEW YORK TIMES
SAYDNAYA, Syria — Abu Elias sat beneath the towering stairs leading from the Convent of Our Lady of Saydnaya, a church high up in the mountains outside Damascus, where Christians have worshiped for 1,400 years. “We are all scared of what will come next,” he said turning to a man seated beside him, Robert, an Iraqi refugee who escaped the sectarian strife in his homeland.

“He fled Iraq and came here,” said Abu Elias, looking at his friend who arrived just a year earlier. “Soon, we might find ourselves doing the same.”

Syria plunges deeper into unrest by the day. On Tuesday, government troops attacked the rebellious town of Rastan with tanks and machine guns, wounding at least 20 people. With the chaos growing, Christians visiting Saydnaya on a recent Sunday said they feared a change of power could usher in a tyranny of the Sunni Muslim majority, depriving them of the semblance of protection the Assad family has provided for four decades.

Syria’s Christian minority is sizable, about 10 percent of the population, though some here say the share is actually lower these days. Though their sentiments are by no means monolithic — Christians are represented in the opposition, and loyalty to the government is often driven more by fear than fervor — as a group they help explain how President Bashar al-Assad has held onto segments of his constituency, in spite of a brutal crackdown aimed at crushing a popular uprising. For many Syrian Christians, Mr. Assad remains predictable in a region where unpredictability has driven many of their brethren from war-wrecked places like Iraq and Lebanon, and where many have felt threatened in post-revolutionary Egypt.

They fear that in the event the president falls, they might be subjected to reprisals at the hands of a conservative Sunni leadership for what it saw as Christian support of the Assad family. They worry that the struggle to dislodge Mr. Assad could turn into a civil war, unleashing sectarian bloodshed in a country where minorities, ethnic and religious, have found a way to co-exist for the most part.

The anxiety is so deep that many ignore the opposition’s counterpoint: The government has actually made those divisions worse as a way of dividing the country and ensuring the rule of the Assad family, which itself springs from a Muslim minority.

“I am intrigued by your calls for freedom and for overthrowing the regime,” wrote a Syrian Christian woman on her Facebook page addressing Christian female protesters. “What does freedom mean? Every one of you does what she wants and is free to say what she wants. Do you think if the regime falls (God forbid) you will gain freedom? Then, each one of you will be locked in her house, lamenting those days.”

The fate of minorities in a region more diverse than many recognize is among the most pressing questions facing an Arab world in turmoil. With its mosaic of Christians and heterodox Muslim sects, Syria has posed the question in its starkest terms: Does it take a strongman to protect the community from the more dangerous, more intolerant currents in society?

The plight of Christians in Syria has resonated among religious minorities across the Middle East, many of whom see themselves as facing a shared destiny. In Iraq, the number of Christians had dwindled to insignificance since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, driven away by bloodshed and chauvinism. Christians in Egypt worry about the ascent of Islamists. Christians in Lebanon, representing the largest minority by share in the Arab world, worry about their own future, in a country where they emerged as the distinct losers of a 15-year civil war.

This month, Lebanon’s Maronite Catholic patriarch urged Maronites, the single-largest community of Christians in the country, to offer Mr. Assad another chance and to give him enough time to implement a long list of reforms that he has promised but never enacted.

The comments by the patriarch, Bishara Boutros al-Rai, prompted a heated debate in Lebanon, which lived under Syrian hegemony for 29 years. A prominent Syrian (and Christian) opposition figure offered a rebuttal from Damascus. But Mr. Rai, who described Mr. Assad as “a poor man who cannot work miracles,” defended his remarks, warning that the fall of the government in Syria threatens Christians across the Middle East.

“We endured the rule of the Syrian regime. I have not forgotten that,” Mr. Rai said. “We do not stand by the regime, but we fear the transition that could follow. We must defend the Christian community. We, too, must resist.”

It is a remarkable insight into the power and persuasion of fear that the status quo in Syria these days remains preferable to many. The United Nations estimates that more than 2,600 people have died since the uprising erupted in mid-March in the poor southern town of Dara and, given the desperation of some, even activists warn that protesters may resort to arms. Estimates of arrests run into the tens of thousands. Indeed, the toll has proven so grave that not all Christians express fear alone.

Some Christians have joined the ranks of the uprisings, and Christian intellectuals like Michel Kilo and Fayez Sara populate the ranks of opposition figures.

An activist in Damascus recalled over coffee at the upscale Audi Lounge how a Christian friend found himself hiding in the house of a conservative Muslim family in a town on the outskirts of Damascus. His friend was marching in a demonstration, along with others. When security forces arrived at the scene shooting randomly at people, they ran for cover, hiding in the nearest houses and buildings, he said.

When the tumult was over, his new host asked him what his name was. Scared, he thought for a moment about lying, but worried that they might ask for his identification papers he told the truth. To his surprise, the host and his family and all those hiding in the house began cheering for him. He had joined their ranks.

The formula often offered of the Syrian divide — religious minorities on Mr. Assad’s side, the Sunni Muslim majority aligned against him — never captured the nuance of a struggle that may define Syria for generations. Even some Alawites, the heterodox Muslim sect from which Mr. Assad draws most of his leadership, had joined protesters. When a few came to the central Syrian city of Hama to join huge demonstrations in the summer, they were saluted by Sunni Muslims with songs and poetry.

But while the promise of the Arab revolts is a new order, shorn of repression and inequality, worries linger that Islamists, the single most organized force in the region, will gain greater influence and that societies will become more conservative and perhaps intolerant.

“Fear is spreading among us and anyone who is different,” said Abu Elias, as he greeted worshipers walking the hundreds of stone steps worn smooth over the centuries. “Today, we are here. Tomorrow, who knows where we will be?”

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Ambassador to Syria, Damascus

The truth is what big brother says it is :

“Foreign journalists are refused entry”

“Websites and satellite TV channels are blocked, with help from Iran”

REALITY

Only today , a journalist from BBC entered Syria but a UK ambassador cannot know about her because she is Canadian and the UK foreign office advised UK citizens to leave Syria some weeks ago.

It is impossible for Syria ( or Iran ) to block a satellite TV channels because they don’t control the satellite ,
Only Europeans and USA can do it , they have blocked the satellite TV channel on Hotbird.
http://www.addounia.tv/web/main.php

“Christians are represented in the opposition, and loyalty to the government is often driven more by fear than fervor”

The only evidence presented for Christians support for Besho is some Facebook comment. And infact a third of the article is about a Christian activist running from the security goons and finding sanctuary at a nearby house.

U.S. makes inquiry about Syrian deposits

September 27, 2011 ? 12:34 pm

http://www.yalibnan.com/2011/09/27/u-s-makes-inquiry-about-syrian-deposits/

The United States Treasury Department has made an inquiry about Syrian deposits in Lebanese banks but has yet to request formal action.

The inquiry came during the visit of Finance Minister Mohammad Safadi and Central Bank Governor Riad Salameh to the United States, The (Beirut) Daily Star reported Monday.

Since the beginning of the unrest in Syria March 15, a number of sanctions have been imposed on Syria by the United States and European Union to pressure the Syrian government to stop violence against civilian protesters.

Most recently, the U.S. Treasury placed sanctions on the Syrian-Lebanese Commercial Bank and its shareholder, the Commercial Bank of Syria, freezing Damascus’ U.S. assets and blocking Syria from doing business in the United States.

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reposted by popular demand:

“We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were/are Jewish” – sever plocker

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

add to the mass murders by jews in soviet union/russia: iraq, palestine, lebanon, armenia.

and

jewry hopes for many deaths in SYRIA and iran.

211. ann – “The United States Treasury Department has made an inquiry about Syrian deposits in Lebanese banks but has yet to request formal action.”

i smell looting about to happen. steal from libya. steal from iran. steal from syria.

fake syrians will bless/encourage this standard free market activity.

Dear #195. Mina,
Sorry Mina, but you are wrong on all fronts:
1-“Franco’s dictatorship brought Spaniards somewhere”, because Franco’s main goal in life was to improve his country and push it forward. This is far from what the Assads goal in life is. Neither Hafez nor Bashar give or gave a hoot about Syria. All they care or ever cared about is their Swiss bank accounts balance.
2- Sorry, I did not read your reply. But my post was about the Sharia being a source and not THE source for the constitution. What I meant is that Sharia could be one of the sources and that there is nothing wrong with that. We should be open minded enough to seek knowledge from all available sources and choose what works for us best.
3- About India: For you to claim that all there achievement is because they were colonized by the British is wrong. You also said: “What you say about India is pure denial of the wild corruption and savagery that is taking places in many places far from cameras”. I have mentioned very clearly that it has a long way to go, but you can not deny that India today is in much better shape than Syria Alassad (sad to say).
4- About China: Again it is a story of good governance. With all the corruption and lack of human tights in China, it is still governed by a group that has the country’s best interest at heart. The Chinese government transformed China for the better in the last 11 years, while your beloved Bashar was in his palace granting his cousins the right to rob everything in sight in Syria. Just can not compare the two. Syrians were willing to take the dictatorship for the promise of reform and change, they got neither. Today, those who are smart enough, are convinced that all we will get from the current regime is more corruption and no reform. Open your eyes and try to see the truth.

http://www.npr.org/2011/09/25/140746510/pro-assad-army-wages-cyberwar-in-syria

…
A recent documentary on Addounia, a private channel owned by the president’s cousin, outlined the “plot” with satellite photos said to show sites where replicas of Syria’s cities have been built. There, Americans, French and Israelis direct actors in protest videos.

These film-makers will never make it to Hollywood. Lousy shooting except for the hoodlums. Lousy casting, we only see backs, lousy lighting !

5 Dancing Ballerinas

Hi. I am not Jewish.

Also, did I tell you I like Ballerinas. My daughter is one. She practices every day.

Homs is now a playground for criminals,many are using the anti regime slogans to facilitate their activities. Assassinations and kidnapping are becoming a daily scene in that city. Victims include doctors,dentists,university professors,etc.
It is easy for Syrian expats to advocate violence against military personnel as long as that violence does not affect their life style in the west and squeeze their bank accounts. the problem is that violence now is not only directed at military and security officers but it is targeting everybody,this violence also will not lead to the fall of the regime as some predicted but to the fall of Syria as a country that was once relatively safe and hospitable to its citizens and its visitors.
This is not the country we used to call home.

Ghufran

By the way, I like you. You have lots if class. You remind me if Abu Ghassan and you may be him. I hear you loud and clear and I do not disagree a bit. But Ghufran, how are we going to topple Bashar. Selmiah simply did not work.

Hi. I am not Jewish.

Tara,

Thanks. You’ve been spared not being associated with a tribe of murderers;)

http://www.jinfo.org/

Also, did I tell you I like Ballerinas. My daughter is one. She practices every day.

It sounds like you’ve been blessed.

Agatha, merci pour le lien; j’ai mis la pétition sur mon site
et je vais la twitter et la fessebooker

Dommage que la belle affiche soit en pdf; pas moyen de l’enregistrer sous jpg et de la mettre dans mon post.
http://data.oedipe.org/pdf/oe__rafahnached0.pdf

208. Aboud, don’t go down to their level please. We deserve better than that coming from you.

As for #213. 5 dancing shlomos said:
You know how much I dislike Israel and everything connected to it, but leave Jews (and Alawis) alone.

http://youtu.be/BAV-3-AqP9M

And that is for Big Palacio too; they fill more than a phone booth and their numbers are growing.

Well Sheila, obviously you don’t want to answer on the constitution issue: do you really think the MB are going to mention “shari’a (which one, by the way… you know how diverse are even the four main madhhab-s?), the bible, and roman law”, which would actually reflect the truth of the sources of law in Syria and other Arab countries?

You are happy with Franco, with the Chinese regime, but have a problem with the Asad-s. I bet you won’t be happy with any other mafia that will replace them (remember Karzai… ? a good friend of Lise Doucet, who would never be interviewed on corruption and anything she may have witnessed during the long time she has spent in the secret of Afghanistan’s presidency…)
Well, then you just confirm that probably it’s true that 50 percent of the country are happy with a strong regime, no matter the horrible things it does. Then, if the other 50 percent is unhappy with that, they can turn to civil war. This is what happen when people resort to violence.

For the record:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15079620
But you’ll probably say that the Al Saud family as “the best interests of the “Saudis subjects” at heart”. Obviously you just avoir sensible topics, and do not actually take the issue of patriarchy on which you have pretended to answer above. Same propaganda as Tara and Aboud and Revlon, all the Canada Syrian fols who have put a foot there once in twenty years.

Agatha, merci pour le lien; j\’ai mis la pétition sur mon site
et je vais la twitter et la fessebooker

Dommage que la belle affiche soit en pdf; pas moyen de l\’enregistrer sous jpg et de la mettre dans mon post.
http://data.oedipe.org/pdf/oe__rafahnached0.pdf

208. Aboud, don\’t go down to their level please. We deserve better than that coming from you.

As for #213. 5 dancing shlomos said:
You know how much I dislike Israel and everything connected to it, but leave Jews (and Alawis) alone.

http://youtu.be/BAV-3-AqP9M

And that is for Big Palacio too; they fill more than a phone booth and their numbers are growing.

Talking about film making, since I am so much now into “art” this time trying to neutralize the horrid scenes, feelings, and thoughts dominating my life living the revolution hour by hour, I emailed 2 famous Iranian movie makers asking them to consider making a documentary about our sacred revolution. I realize they might be Shiaa and I hear all this arguments about religious fights yet I have a genuine belief that a real artist always look for and able to find the truth.

Tara, last March you didn’t know anything about Iranian films. Did JAD got you to watch some? May I ask which ones you liked? Could you give the names of the “famous movie makers”, because so many are in jail now that it would be interesting to know who remained outside (it’s like Turkist journalists who dared writing about the Kurds or Armenia).

218. ghufran said:

Homs is now a playground for criminals,many are using the anti regime slogans to facilitate their activities. Assassinations and kidnapping are becoming a daily scene in that city. Victims include doctors,dentists,university professors,etc.
This is not the country we used to call home.

MORE REALITY etc = teacher,etc

Armed Terrorist Groups Murder Officer and Three Civilians in Homs and Idleb

Sep 27, 2011

HOMS, IDLEB, (SANA) – The body of First Lieutenant Mohammad Firas Jadid, who was abducted by armed terrorist groups on Monday in the town of Maaret al-Numaan in Idleb, was found bearing a gunshot wound on Tuesday on the road between the towns of al-Tamana’a and al-Khouin.

In Homs, teacher Hasehm Yousef Nassour was martyred at the hands of an armed terrorist group as he was heading to work at al-Shumawiya School near Homs.

Homs Police said that the incident occurred around 8:00 AM on the road of Qattina, with hooded gunmen on a motorbike attacking the teacher who was in his car and shooting him, killing him and injuring his relative Ghazi Bashlawi.

Authorities in Homs also found the body of Manhal Sleiman in his car near Amr Bin Abdulaziz School on Monday afternoon, with the body bearing several gunshot wounds. Homs Police told SANA that the deceased’ father reported him missing since Monday morning.

The body of Samer Ali Hourani was found near Al-Nawawi Mosque in al-Bayyada neighborhood, with the body bearing gunshot wounds and signs of torture and trauma induced by sharp objects.

Mustafa Sharif Shaiir and Ahmad Mustafa Shaiir were injured when an armed terrorist group intercepted them on Al-Siteen Street in Homs and opened fire on them.

In al-Rastan area in Homs, an armed terrorists group attacked the director of the Homs branch of Omran Establishment and stole his car. Sources said that four hooded gunmen on bikes forced the director out of his car, an Opel Omega, and took it to an unknown destination.

Authorities seize new quantities of ammunitions and weapons in Homs

Competent authorities today seized new quantities of ammunitions and weapons in a KIA car parked at al-Wa’er neighborhood in Homs.

A source at Homs Police said the seized weapons include two TPGs, 3 rifles, 2000 bullets, 6 hand bombs as well as 6 car boards. All used by the armed terrorist groups to attack people.

http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2011/09/27/371953.htm

a repost for cubicle jewmate annie:

213. 5 dancing shlomos said:

reposted by popular demand:

“We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were/are Jewish” – sever plocker

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

add to the mass murders by jews in soviet union/russia: iraq, palestine, lebanon, armenia.

and

jewry hopes for many deaths in SYRIA and iran.

“…..Also, did I tell you I like Ballerinas. My daughter is one. She practices every day….”

Break a leg, or better…two, how else we can get rid of these poor hip hopp bullshiterina dancers that give real ballerinas a bad name. Silmiya will not do it.

Annie

Excusez-moi, mais je ne sais pas si une campagne pour Madame Rafah Nashed ne serait pas plutôt nuisible à sa libération car elle radicaliserait encore plus les autorités, dejà à bout de nerfs..

Dejà son mari a fait la remarque suivante dans la lettre qu’il a adressée aux journaux:

‘Quant au journal, l’Orient le Jour, il a publié une caricature en citant son nom, ce qui jette de l’huile sur le feu et augmente le danger de sa vie en prison’

Je pense qu’il faudrait plutot consulter son mari sur la démarche car c’est un sujet delicat qu’il ne faut pas prendre à la légère surtout que d’après son mari, son inculpation est due à un journaliste anti-régime de AFP qui lui a prêté des phrases qu’elle n’a sans doute pas dites.

A mon avis la presse ferait mieux de se taire que de mettre en danger des innocents en montant les autorités contre eux.

160. Akbar Palace said:

“Khalid Tlass,

You aren’t making any sense. First you tell Christians to “give it up” to be “protected persons under the Muslims”, then you admit that the “Lebanese population were able to massacre and slaghter 10,000 Maronites”.

Zionist, you won’t understand these things. What I was saying was that in 1860-64 in Lebanon, the Druze who were just 5 % of the population were able to slaughter 10,000 Maronitesd who were 40 % of the poulation. I showed that to illustrate how weak the Middle Eastern Christians are, and why they need the protection of Muslims. In the Qyur’an they are referred to as “protected persons”.

Areal
About how “salmiyya” were the demos in Ma’arrat al Nu’maan already in April, search for the link to the Youtube video I provided then or with google ‘risalat from the people of Ma’arat’, posted online 2 days before a demo and with a guy burning portraits of B al Asad.

@126 and 133. The previous video was restricted for outside of UK viewers. Here is a youtube version.

Post 126:

‘Last night on the BBC a documentary on the Syrian uprising was broadcast. Panorama is BBC’s prime time flagship investigative current affairs programme.

Panorama. Syria: Inside the Secret Revolution
30 minutes.’

Post 133:

Just finished watching the BBC documentary (@126) for the first time. I dont know what to say. Went thru every emotion.

A must watch.

All I will say is that the prayer of the oppressed is a powerful weapon. A very powerful weapon.

Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt

Zionist, you won’t understand these things.

Khalid Tlass,

Show me a Islamic state that protects its citizens as well a secular democracy. Pakistan? Saudi Arabia? Iran?

I showed that to illustrate how weak the Middle Eastern Christians are, and why they need the protection of Muslims.

Like a chicken needs a butcher.

As a wise man once said “Stinky smell leads to the shit”

http://all4syria.info/web/archives/29708

So who was shovelling fog high eh?

Stop bloody Kirking us right now and get your facts straight!!

Too much profanity………ehsani

True,

So that is what we smell when we see your note,!

Dear Girls and Guys,

The new Jewish year of 5772 ( ????”? ) begins tomorrow. According to the Jewish tradition, we’re commanded to ask for forgiveness and be sorry for wrong doings. If I said something that did hurt your feelings or upset you, I want to ask for your forgiveness, and say that I am Sorry!

I wish a better new year to Syria and to all Syrians. I wish Syria, Freedom, peace and the full fulfillment of the talents, inspirations and abilities of the Syrian people.

Shana Tova.
.

The Khazar-Neocons Syria Roll Back Plan NewZ

… you are the best thing that ever happen to Assad, and the best tools to defeat your own plan and your hired mercenaries…

SNP,

What “plan” and what “mercenaries” are you referring to? I’d like to learn more about this.

SNP, (SSNP in Lebanon)

Do not forget that (no need for such violent remarks……………ehsani)

Amir in Tel Aviv,

Happy New Year! You have my forgiveness for not answering our questions about your family ancestry;)

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL THE NICE JEWISH PEOPLE IN ISRAEL, AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT, HAPPY NEW YEAR AND NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM.

@ 236. Tarek

Very true it’s the smell of your mouth and your god Betho

Hurry up go prostrate few time on his portrait and you might sniff some shit as well

Aboud and all,

I have reached a state of mind where I now only care about (comment deleted due to excessively violent remarks…….ehsani)

@ 236. Tarek

I shall call ya Na3iq instead of Tarek

Go join your crony Jamal eh you both are bloody lousy and super lame horns!!

1919

Amir

Happy New Year.

Let me get this right. I used to get confused in the past. Getting used to it now.

Am I correct? :

“Annie ‘Good’
Ann ‘Not Good’

Annie ‘Good’
Ann ‘Not Good’

Annie ‘Good’
Ann ‘Not Good’

…….”

lol

239. Khalid Tlass

(deleted………….ehsani)

The SPP boys are so good and eventually they’ll come back to us.

You just have to hate the Democrats and the Labour Party, we just can;t get along with them….although we aren;t friends with Neocons and Conservatives, at least we can do business with them. Stupid BLAIR was the grratest friend of Gaddafi and Besho,……………….(deleted …………….ehsani)

Last night on the BBC a documentary on the Syrian uprising was broadcast. Panorama is BBC’s prime time flagship investigative current affairs programme.

Panorama. Syria: Inside the Secret Revolution
30 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_SIeljZ3Tc

PS: Link previously posted may have been missed in a convoluted post @232.

http://media.crooksandliars.com/download/2011/06/Islamist-Guns_6-4-11.wmv

A Saudi woman has been sentenced to 10 whip lashes for driving a car in defiance of the ban on female drivers and another woman has been arrested in this connection, says an activist.

An activist said on condition of anonymity on Tuesday that Sheima Jastaniah was sentenced one day earlier by a Jeddah court, where she was caught driving in July, AFP reported.

The activist added that Jastaniah “had refused to talk to media about her trial and we were shocked yesterday (Monday) that she was sentenced to 10 lashes.”

Amnesty International (AI) has condemned the sentence, describing it as “discrimination against women in the kingdom.”

disgusting 243,247, 248

Please control yourselves. This is a forum for discussion and not for ginning up a slaughterhouse of hate.

227. 5 dancing shlomos said:
My answer
Sorry, I had not read the article you referred to. It is true.

I referred you to the young Jewish Americans who dissent because those are the ones who will eventually tip the balance away from US support to Israel.

As for Franco, I lived under his regime and living in Syria reminded me of that time. But there was probably more freedom of private expression in Spain. I was not paranoid about someone filing a report about me.

The real alliances yet to be formed after militarising the revolution, hopefully very soon.

A quick glance suggests that Alawis & Christians have decided to stick together. Such an alliance is totally skewed towards Alawis as it would give them the necessary shield to use the word “Minorities” and at the same time a bargain card to play at the right time whether during a civil war or future election. On the other hand, and from Christians perspective, such an alliance might be a Déjà vu to what happened in Lebanon when Christians refused to partner up with Sunnis. Eventually, Lebanese Christians have been ousted for a long time from the political life till they reached to the point, under Assad’s regime, where Muslims elect the Christians MPs.

On the other side, the Druz are on standby and playing the patience game with their fingers on triggers. The recent history exhibits a tendency of Sunni & Druz alliance such as the Lebanese civil war. Druz control very strategic geographical area goes all the way from Syria to connect with Lebanon and deepens in Palestine and the occupied Golan heights.

Additionally, Kurds are the key to unite or divide the future Syria. Kurds have experienced the bad and the worst from both Alawis and Sunnis, hence lacking of trust. Kurds opposition is quite reluctant to charge fully and take a supreme side, they rather prefer to keep the distance, distinct their independent opinion and seek future guarantees.

Dear Aboud

“The 3rd rate powers of South Africa, India and Brazil are only on the security council until the end of the year, and until then they are indulging in one of the very few times they will be able to stick it to the USA and Europe. They are enjoying their pathetic little moment in the sun, at the cost of thousands of Syrian lives.”

Thank you very much for this info. Their support of the Syrian murderous regime was their “moment of fame” probably triggered by intense feeling of inferiority and happiness of just assuming a position against the west no matter what the cost is.

A tribunal to try Besho for crime against humanity sanctioned by the UN security council is then coming soon.

Dear #222. Mina,
I am not trying to avoid any subject, I am not Canadian, I go to Syria every year and hopefully, I am not a fool.
1- The constitution: all I am trying to say is that we should derive good from any source, be it: Islamic Sharia, the Bible, the Torah, the American constitution, Hammurabi….You get the picture. Nothing should be off the table. The MB s are part of the Syrian society and they should be present at the table, however, Syria has many other participants that will weigh in too. The constitution is not the word of God. We might not get it right at first, but we can always amend it. Please let me know if you feel that I avoided anything, so that I could try again.
2- I understand your concern about replacing one mafia with another. It is a distinct possibility. There is no guarantee that if the regime falls, we will get a democracy. On the contrary, the transition is going to be very hard. We all know what happened during and immediately after the French revolution. Syrians are not used to democracy and have no mature political opposition (thanks to Alassads), however, what I am trying to tell you is that Syria has been on a downward spiral since these thugs took over and to stop and reverse that, we have no other choice but to topple this regime. What I am trying to say is that the Assad route is known and the result is guaranteed disaster, at least with toppling this regime we have a sliver of hope that things might improve.
3- To answer your question: yes, I would have been fine with a dictatorship had I seen any improvements on the ground. Every year I go to Syria and see the decline in everything. It makes your heart ache. I do not think any of the countries mentioned are perfect. I do not know of any country that is perfect. I am not expecting perfection. I just want the basics for the Syrians and I can assure you that they do not get even the basics with this regime. Never did. Never will.
4- As for Saudi Arabia, I consider it to be the most backwards country of all. I do not think that the king has the best interest of his subjects at heart, he just has a lot of money to throw at his problems. In my view, the US is far more of an Islamic state than SA is. Discriminating against women and other religions was never a part of Islam.

Finally, I have no agendas or goals other than hoping for the best for my country. We deserve better, don’t you agree.

“………….The real alliances yet to be formed after militarising the revolution, hopefully very soon……”

Here is the correction needed:

The real alliances yet to be formed after militarising the online, virtual revolution, hopefully very soon.

Just don’t get virtually nuked in the militarising process.

UUUUGGHHH , Soryy one more correction:

“…………On the other side, the Druz are on standby and playing the patience game with their fingers on triggers….”

On the other side, the Druz are on standby and playing the patience game with their fingers up their ass.

@ 235. SNP

Are you implying the following?

(deleted due to repeating profanity of others…….ehsani)

“LOL & LOL & LOL” as an expression of severe mental issues

Using such expressions indicates to one conclusion of “post traumatic stress disorder”. Clearly you haven’t been taking your med or you haven’t even visited a shrink yet!! If you feel short just go to your next door Azadi Psychiatric Hospital in Tehran.

“WE would …, so that WE can post … .LOL and LOL. WE done past …, WE created various internet .. WE were doing because .., but WE did not care, …, WE just laugh and ..”

Who do you mean by (WE)? Is it the division 225 of Mukhabarat or the Syrian electronic thugs?

Shiella

Thanks for your kind words , and thanks for paying a deserved attention to a precious advice by Mandela,
The people who were intended to read this did not comment,
Your voice of reason , although I don’t agree with, helps making the dialogue more productive
Just hope we can desert the negatives and focus on the common positives we have and help advance our country without bloodshed nor revenge

@ 258. Syrian Nationalist Party

“On the other side, the Druz are on standby and playing the patience game with their fingers up their ass.”

Since your English is a bit weird I need to understand is “up their ass” an expression of some sorts? Or is it just a reflection of frustration?

I have moderated few comments. This is time consuming. Everyone knows that profanity and excessive violent remarks will not be tolerated. Rather than deleting and moderating some of these comments, an outright ban may take place next.

Dear #253. Annie,
I also lived in Spain under Franco and was there to witness the chaos when he died. The Spaniards were like a genie in a bottle all these years, were let out after the death of Franco and did not know what to do with themselves. They rioted, burnt cars and broke every phone booth they could get their hands on. In my mind, I always worry about what will happen after the Assads fall. I think it will be far worse than what happened in Spain.

A reminder to all Al-Qaeda contributors and their supporters on this blog. The resort at GUANTANAMO BAY is still open, and waiting for you with lots of open vacancies

Cheers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp

Dear #259. TRUE,
You just stooped to his level. I hate to see you or Aboud do that. There are ladies on this forum and this is quite offensive. Please stay above the fray. We all know the man is unhinged.

@ 265. Sheila

Sure thing, No worries!

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262. EHSANI
“I have moderated few comments. This is time consuming. Everyone knows that profanity and excessive violent remarks will not be tolerated. Rather than deleting and moderating some of these comments, an outright ban may take place next.”

Dear Ehsani,

Please go for it. It’s becoming too much.

Mango,

I did not compare Syria to the USA. Please tell me specifically where I did that. The title admits that this is a “new reality” for Syria which is what you are implying, no?

True
I noticed that you insult a lot of posters her and you call them smelly mouths.Do you smell online?
What kind of mouth wash you use ?is it Aroorin mouth wash?
You know when minorities will join your jihadists?
When the wolf friends sheep
When the sun stops rising
When Alaaroor gets to be a saint
When your mouth does not smell

When

Please email me or Ehsani if you encounter a comment with profanity, racism and violent threats. Emails are listed on the top right corner. This will be the fastest way to get a comment moderated.

Happy New Year Emir (and Akbar, and Shai and Yossi and AIG if you are here). Thank you for your wishes.

I just added two historic photos about Jews in Syria.

Qamishli Jews (originally Kurdish Jews)
http://www.mideastimage.com/blog/?p=160

Gabbai’s stamp (consuls to British India in Aleppo)
http://www.mideastimage.com/blog/?p=155

@ Sheila

Would you have an idea what’s the roughly % demography structure in Aleppo (including the outskirt) in terms of sects and backgrounds?

The Syrian government’s media mouthpeices can’t hide their true colors anymore. The latest example is that of Talib Ibrahim who challenged his guest and the guest’s creator (in other words, he is challenging God) to prove that the security forces and shabiha tortured, mutilated, and killed Zaynab Al-Husni. Prior to that, he had an iterating slip of the tongue when he said that the shabiha killed her.

The exchange starts at 43:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbuvkHqpP9A&feature=player_embedded#!

This is what the Syrians have been dealing with for a long time. May God destroy them.

@ SNK

How many times did I tell ya “stop talking to me”?!!

I find it really hard to decipher your encrypted posts eh

@ Sheila

See I managed to “stay above the fray” 🙂

“This is what the Syrians have been dealing with for a long time. May God destroy them.”

“May God destroy them.”
This is referring to those challenging God and their supporters.

What a relief, finally my Iranian Shia partners in Tehran (Noble Moslems) completed a board game called: Syria Revolution 2011 it is for ages 3+ it is part of a series of board games, the last one will be called Syria Revolution 2111 THE DAY ASSAD JR BECOME EMPORIO DE SYRIA. Willing to give each one of the kids in here a board game and a real size squirting dildo shaped gun to get off from this blog and go play with the new game board. The chances of advancing 2 squares on the board is great too, but don’t ever land in C407 block, you are out and lost just like the 16000 Syrians who played a virtual revolution and landed in real block C407 for life, GAME IS OVER.

Armed terrorist gang

Assad’s new reforms; arresting Salafists

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According to the current available resources (only 1 book that I’m aware of) there’s no trace of al-ASSAD family prior to the appearance of Hafiz’ grandpa (the porter “3atal” Sulayman al-Wahhish) coming from Turkey.

It’s quite bewildering how there was no exact date of Sulayman’s arrival to Qurdaha. Patrick has only mentioned the date when Sulayman changed his surname from al-Wahhish to al-Assad in 1920.

Are these ASSAD criminals really Arabs?

How come the porter “3atal” Sulayman al-Wahhish could not speak Arabic when he arrived to Qurdaha?

(Ref: Asad of Syria: the struggle for the Middle East By Patrick Seale)

http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=6D9EiJKRTHcC&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=his+grandfather+arrived+to+Latakia&source=bl&ots=RoXZh5UQ8n&sig=dOGl0_F6thy8NZ8Iw6QzRQZrnjU&hl=en&ei=9FKCTrLxNeyyiQeYkongDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=snippet&q=sylayman&f=false

@ 277. Amir in Tel Aviv

These are Betho’s thugs and Shabiha arresting “underage” students with no permit from their caregivers or even supervision from the school administration.

It’s about 7:45 pm (after dinner and a cup of coffee) mmmmm just about time to receive a wave of posts from Menhebaks

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http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=137834

Life behind the Walls

Alex,

Thank you for the New Year’s wishes.

(BTW – you’ve got a handful of violent nutcases on this website, just so you know)

These are Betho’s thugs and Shabiha arresting “underage” students with no permit from their caregivers or even supervision from the school administration.

True,

Thanks for the above video. I would love to help Syrians who want freedom and democracy, but I feel helpless.

Frankly, Jews are at the bottom of the “totem pole”. A half year ago, no one was demonstrating against Assad and everything was good. Everyone hated the Zionist enemy, and it all made sense.

Now that Syrians are getting killed and pulled off the street on a whim, what can we do? Even if you have the audacity to ask for help, you would immediately be referred to as a Zionist sympathizer, the worst epithet known to Man.

So now the question is, where are your Arab and Muslim brothers? If they can’t help, how can we?

Dear #272. TRUE,
Thank you for obliging.
In terms of the demographic percentages in Aleppo, the straight answer is: I do not know and do not believe that anyone knows for sure. As you well know, we do not have good statistics in Syria overall.
I believe there are a few on this forum from Aleppo and are welcome to contribute.
Here is what I think Aleppo’s composition is like today:

In terms of religion:
1- Muslims : Predominantly Sunnis. Some Alawiis mainly from Aliskandaroun and some Shia. I think Muslims are probably around 65 to 75% of the population of Aleppo.
2- Christians: Predominantly Orthodox, then Catholic and a small Protestant community. They are also divided into many churches including Greek Orthodox, Syriac Orthodox, Syriac Catholic, Chaldean, Latin, etc.. Christians are probably between 20 to 25% of the population of Aleppo.
3- Jews: many have left Aleppo when the travel ban was lifted.

In terms of ethnicity:
1- Arabs. (I am considering Syriacs, Chaldeans and Assyrians to be Arabs. I will leave it up to them to decide whether they consider themselves Arabs or a different ethnic group. I have seen it both ways)
2- Kurds.
3- Armenians.
4- Circassians.
5- Turkmen.

Historically speaking, Aleppo always had a good size Christian community and a decent size Jewish community, but what most people do not know is that the majority of Muslims in Aleppo were at one point Shia. You know Alhamadaniyeen: Abu Firas Alhamadani and Abu altaib Almutanabi (the famous poet). Those were all from Aleppo and were all Shia. The Ottomans annihilated the Shia of Aleppo and here we are today where the majority of Muslims in Aleppo are Sunni.

How funny is this. Thank God for Addounia. Addounia Tv is a slap in the face for Alqanzeera and AlAirrrrrrrrrrabia. Now we know why the europenas sanctioned Addounia. Its because it shows the actual facts on the ground. None of this Abu hamwi or abu daara or abu homsi from alqanzera

http://www.youtube.com/user/HananNoura

I am tired of the moronite patriarch Mr. Rai using religion for scaremongering among the Christians in order to serve Bashar.

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I am also tired of watching Lebanese sycophants.  I thought I liked the Lebanese.  I am thinking again.  The one featured on Aljazeera today was a hateful Lebanese who got his talking points from his masters. I guess some people do like slavery.   

@ 282. Akbar Palace

baruhim haba’im

Honestly, it would be interesting to examine how Syrian Jews would act (if there was any :() during the revolution? I hope they would not join the minorities and hide behind their cowardice.

“where are your Arab and Muslim brothers?”

Let’s try to get the support from the confused Syrian brothers first :). We in NO need for Arabs & Muslims, Syrian freedom fighters would do the job themselves and earn their freedom.

“what can we do?”

If you really mean it from your heart then make us all a favour and go out tonight to the old city, shake a hand with a Palestinian and place a red rose near the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, the FREEDOM rose.

Catch these moments on video and dedicate it to every innocent soul butchered by Betho and his thugs.

TARA – it seems your beloved New York Times ( the newspaper you always praise ) , is showing the point of view of christians in syria. You just cannot handle the truth. Are you trying to state that the christians in syria are slaves ? How about the people who live under Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Yemen, pakistan? The women cannot leave their house unless they have written permission from their husbands or fathers. The women are not permitted to drive. The women are not permitted to be seated next to a male unless they are related etc etc etc . Isnt this slavery?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/world/middleeast/fearing-change-syria-christians-back-bashar-al-assad.html

So Ehsani deleted my previous post for excessive profanity. Although I did edit the curse word down to the first and last letters only, but I guess he is right, it still is understood to be profanity and thousands of women read this blog, my apology. Agree 100% there should not be use of it at all and neither these actors use of violence is acceptable.

But the underlying of the post is interesting. So here it is clean. Back in March 2005, Landis blog was just starting up, at the same time SNP mobilized for the third time in the hope that the U.S. after so much loss of life, regardless who did it, was ready to start a new Middle East.

We soon found out that there existed no opposition willing to participate in a change of Political landscape in Syria except for the MB. Then came Khaddam NSF and we right away knew the book from its title “Not Sufficient Fund” and opted out of any association.

Syriacomment were really dry, especially the comment section, so we resorted to setting up “Internet Identities” to stimulate the comments. Landis knew nothing about it. Each identity had own name, IP, email and passionately fought for Political view, one that is tailored in a way that suited what we wanted to comment on. There is the belligerent foul mouse bloggers, the Pro Assad bloggers, the anti Assad ones and then there is SNP that responded in respectable words to all of them, begging others for moderation. We basically played the “market maker in stocks and commodity trading pits”.

Back then we thought using SNP name and all the symbols are non-starter, so we put up a website by the name of Syrian Republican Party (which is smaller of the 4 group comprising SNP) and put the Syrian Falcon for logo, adding the Greco-Roman olive branch to promote peace with Israel. Now we don’t care, that is what we are Nationalist and Right wingers.

Of course the whole game was being watched by spies, Israeli, Americans and maybe others who have interests in bugging others (as you know Israelis wired planet earth already). So these were laughing all the way knowing, studying and learning tactics of this virtual game played. We know that too, because for one thing, I know where all the bugs are and for second it was so outrageous for them they sometime comes on the blog and leave comments that they know. But we did not care, they know, but the readers and the world out there did not know, it was all done professionally.

So now, these Johnny came lately, after seven years, comes up with similar plot and the guys paid to post here and elsewhere are not aware that we invented this virtual game and now we are laughing at it.

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@ 283. Sheila

Very comprehensive, ta.

The more diversity within a city the more risk of sectarian attacks during a civil war (God forbid)

The regime during the time of Rifa’t al-ASSAD has implemented a cunning plan of placing Alawi gatherings around major Sunni hot spots such as Meza 86, Tadamon, Dahayet ASSAD and others in the capital. If you examine these locations you would easily conclude the surrounding of Damascus and its four entries.

Mohamed Kanj

Hi. No I did not mean Syrian Christians are slaves. In my mind, slavery is that of thoughts and soul. Any one who always conform to a concept or frame of thoughts without internally challenging it especially when it originate from fear, desire, certain agendas, or even habit is a slave. So women who are not permitted to drive are not slaves unless they are content with it.

I do not have favorite newspaper. Any smart writing can do

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@ TARA

The Lebanese Christians are quite famous in taking the wrong side. They challenge when they suppose to bend and the suck up when they suppose to charge forward.

Fundamentally, the old Lebanese Maronites are ready to drink, feed and sleep with Lucifer himself rather supporting a Sunni and most precisely a Palestinian.

Sadly speaking it’s in their blood!!!

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Syria ‘is heading for financial disaster’

Phil Sands
Sep 28, 2011

DAMASCUS // Syria could be heading for financial disaster after the government revealed dramatically expanded spending plans for 2012, economists warned yesterday.

With European Union sanctions beginning to bite, on Monday Damascus adopted a budget for next year equivalent to Dh97 billion, an increase of 58 per cent from 2011.

“Where are they going to get the money from to pay for this? That’s the big question,” said Nabil Sukkar, a leading economist and former World Bank official who now heads an independent think tank in Damascus.

“Our concern is that they are going to start printing money to meet their expenditure, which will lead to serious inflation,” he said. “With the economy stagnating that would be an unfortunate situation to find ourselves in.”

Another independent Syrian economic analyst was more blunt. “It is hard to see how Syria is doing anything other than walking into an economic disaster,” he said. “They are spending more money, money they do not have, at a time when their income has dropped significantly as they have no way of getting credit.

“The numbers do not work. I cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel. I cannot see any way out of this, we will be feeling the effects of this for a long, long time.”

Nevertheless, neither analyst expects the worsening economic climate to turn Syrian business leaders against the president, Bashar Al Assad.”This will not topple the regime,” the independent economist said. “The business community isn’t happy about any of it but they will not turn against the regime, they cannot, they will not.”

Washington and Brussels have imposed sanctions on Damascus, including the small but vital oil sector, for its handling of an anti-regime uprising. The United Nations says more than 2,700 people have been killed since March by security forces suppressing of pro-democracy demonstrations, with tens of thousands of dissidents arrested, many of whom face torture while in detention.

Syrian officials deny that, and insist they are locked in a battle against armed Islamist insurgents and foreign conspirators who have killed 700 members of the security services.

The budget was announced with little fanfare, and few precise details, although economists say day-to-day expenditure, including fuel subsidies and payment for expanded security operations, would account for more than 70 per cent of the total.

“If anything, I had hoped to see more investment spending, something that would inject some life into the economy and generate some growth,” said Mr Sukkar. “But the investment programme has been frozen, we are seeing a reversal of essential market reforms and a return to protectionism.”

The International Monetary Fund this month predicted Syria’s economy would shrink by 2 per cent this year, revising its previous estimate of 3 per cent growth.

Many foreign aid programmes have been suspended and international banking services halted, while anecdotal reports indicate rising unemployment – which unofficially had been hovering at about 20 per cent even before the crisis began – as well as reduced payment of taxes and significant reductions in consumer spending.

Syrian officials have acknowledged the economy is under pressure. The foreign minister, Walid Moallem, told the United Nation’s General Assembly on Monday that economic sanctions by the United States and EU would “jeopardise” the lives of ordinary people.

Working and middle-class Syrians have said they are braced for bleak economic times, with some already complaining of recent prices rises on basic foodstuffs, including eggs and sugar, with expectations of fuel and power shortages in coming months. Government sector salary increases from earlier this year have already been wiped out by creeping inflation, Syrians say.

“We know it is going to be bad for us,” said one government employee, a father of six who has a second job as a delivery driver in Damascus. “The rich will be fine and the smugglers will be happy, but the rest of us are going to suffer.

“If we’re lucky we will be able to afford to eat and heat one room in the house this winter. There will be nothing else, we will simply be existing.”

Nonetheless, regime officials say the country – which faced sanctions, inflation, stagnation and hard currency shortages in the 1980s – will cope.

“We expect it will cost us at least one year’s worth of budget to overcome the crisis and we have not spent that much yet,” said one official. “In a few months the protests will stop and the situation will be getting back to normal, this is a problem we will overcome.”

Hamidi Abdullah, a Syrian commentator and analyst, said the economy would not be crippled because of its relative self-sufficiency and the absence of a blanket UN-imposed embargo.

“Sanctions on oil will not amount to a deadly hit because we’re not an oil dependent economy,” he said. “We still have good links with non-EU countries, including Iraq, we’re not heavily indebted and our strategic foreign currency reserves are still strong.”

He also backed the expanded budget, saying it would safeguard the poorest section of society by ensuring fuel and food subsidies remained in place. “Economic reforms will continue and if waste is cut and corruption cut back, the economy will emerge from this period stronger than it was at the start,” he said.

The budget announcement comes days after the authorities imposed a ban on non-essential imports. That move, made without advance notice, alarmed Syrian economists and businessmen, who described it as a “panic” measure.

Prices of electrical goods and cars have already begun to rise, with reports that the cost of a small family saloon is now thousands of dollars more than it was last week .

“The only explanation for the import ban is that the treasury saw some numbers that frightened it,” said another leading Syrian economist. “They must be burning through their US dollar reserves faster than they thought and they had to plug the leak.”

Syria says it has about US$17bn in hard currency reserves, although analysts say they have no way of knowing if that figure is correct because of opaque accounting practices.

The minister of economy and trade, Mohammad Nidal Al Shaar, said the suspension of luxury imports was designed to maintain those reserves. He also insisted it was a short-term move and that the list of items on the banned list was already under review.

“It is a preventive, temporary measure which will help enhance productivity and give a chance to local factories to produce more and create jobs,” he said.
http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/middle-east/syria-is-heading-for-financial-disaster?pageCount=0

Mina

No Jad can only influence himself. I was influenced by some one brilliant but exquisitely sensitive. I liked few that are very spiritual and sad.

@ Mohamed Kanj

Can you please introduce yourself? like where do you stand? What’s your background ..etc

I hope you’re quite comfortable with your skin and this question won’t irritate ya eh

Armed defenders of Syria’s revolution

Nir Rosen

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/09/2011927113258426922.html

Al Jazeera special correspondent Nir Rosen spent seven weeks travelling throughout Syria with unique access to all sides. He visited Daraa, Damascus, Homs, Hama, Latakia and Aleppo to explore the uprising and growing internal conflict. In the second article of his series he meets with leaders of the armed opposition in Homs. Names of some of the indivduals quoted have been changed to protect their identities.

Better than 1st article by Nir Rosen. He reports on both insurgents and soldiers.

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Honestly, it would be interesting to examine how Syrian Jews would act (if there was any 🙁 ) during the revolution? I hope they would not join the minorities and hide behind their cowardice.

True,

That’s a difficult question. I think you have to put yourself in the shoes of the minority. Arab Christians are now doing what the Arab Jews did: they leave. It just isn’t safe.

And of course, it’s a shame, because if these governments had rule-of-law, they wouldn’t feel the need to leave.

Unfortunately, many arab countries are broken, and the hope is that the Arab Spring will eventually start to repair them.

If you really mean it from your heart then make us all a favour and go out tonight to the old city, shake a hand with a Palestinian and place a red rose near the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, the FREEDOM rose.

Not a difficult task and certainly a good idea. I been in the Dome of the Rock several times, but never with a red rose.

Catch these moments on video and dedicate it to every innocent soul butchered by Betho and his thugs.

In my next visit, I will do it.

BTW True, most (Arab) Israeli Christians are sympathetic to the palestinians, certainly those that live under the PA. However, the Christian palestinian population is decreasing, and the Israeli Christian community in increasing.

Fundamentally, the old Lebanese Maronites are ready to drink, feed and sleep with Lucifer himself rather supporting a Sunni and most precisely a Palestinian.

True,

I don’t know what you’re saying here, but an individual should be able to support whoever they want in an election. Don’t you agree? Or do you want it the way it’s been for the last 300 years: the most violent thug wins?

“………Names of some of the indivduals quoted have been changed to protect their identities….”

Is it perhaps because they don’t exist except in the imagination of the foreign intelligence operatives.

Dear Tara,
I just gave up on that person. I do not think he read or understood the article in the New York Times that he is referring to. It is a very good article about the position of Christians in Syria vis-à-vis the revolution. It is a very balanced article talking about the legitimate fear that the Syrian Christians have and the participation of many of them in the revolution. It is a good read.

@ 300. Akbar Palace

“Arab Christians are now doing what the Arab Jews did: they leave. It just isn’t safe.”

I have to disagree.

Do you really believe your should pack your bags and run instead of fighting for your own country?

It’s their country as it’s everyone’s else, they owe their country the duty to protect it as the country gives them the right and honour to be part of it.

“In my next visit, I will do it.”

That’s quite positive, well done.

“and the Israeli Christian community in increasing.”

How come they’re increasing while they’re under the risk of being deported after the racist Binyamin Netanyahu has declared that Israel is a “Jewish state”.

@ AP

“individual should be able to support whoever they want in an election. Don’t you agree? Or do you want it the way it’s been for the last 300 years: the most violent thug wins”

I agree One-person/One-vote is the solution and this surely includes the Palestinian Right to Self-Determination, do you agree?

Someone here is making me feel really guilty after reading SNP post on fake internet identity and the Syrian Revolution 2011. We should have stated in big bold print:

DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS IN REAL SITUATION. SERIOUS BODY INJURIES AND SEVERE COMPLICATIONS TO YOU AND OTHERS WILL RESULT WITH IMPROPER USE.

I never thought that a warning label was necessary, I thought most Intelligence Agencies that some are behind this Syria Virtual Revolution ploy will only employ operatives aged 12 years and older.

I watched The opposite direction
I think Taleb Ibrahim,he said many many lies,and he denied that Zainab AlHosni was killed by the regime ,he said she was killed by Shabbiha, who are those Shabbiha,they are walking side by side with the troops, why do,nt the army troops arrest them if they are not sponsored by the regime?, He is also denying things denied that there was revolution, denied that Bashar using the army to kill syrians.

85. NK said:

Dear NK, I have respect for you and I appreciate you taking the time to explain your perspective and that of Sheikh Qaradawi. NK, I know the Qur’an says Qatilu and not Iqtilo, but the intent is the same of destroying a life. The intent of Qatilu is to kill and harm.

Jizya, is an old concept that dates to the first time when we had lots of hair and the strongest man picked up a piece of fallen tree branch to make a weapon out of it. Well most of us don’t have lots of hair now and we have constitutions that promote inclusion and citizenship rather than master-slave philosophy, that reflect that society evolves, cultures change, we all think differently, and we dream.

My other point in this bringing up this verse is in fact is due what is being talked about in Egypt after the revolution. A number of disgraceful sheikhs who are calling for Jizya and even have the guts to call Christians, who were there from day one, as “Crusaders”. They do this live on television in a most disrespectful way. Off course the same Sheikhs are calling for an Islamic state and openly care less about 10% of the population.

My last point in the other verse I quoted if you are interested, is that there are a number of really good verses in the Qur’an that in fact promote harmony, respect and multiplicity. Unfortunately, these verses are never mentioned by Muslims Sheikhs when the camera is in their face. And most unfortunately, the majority of Muslims have never read the Qur’an and rely on the Sheikhs.

In conclusion, I know you cannot change the Qur’an, Christians and Jews did not change the Bible to promote and encourage democracy and free thinking, however, we sidelined it and we do not take it literally because we know a government based on it will discriminate against Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus etc. and limit society’s potential. Can Muslims stop taking the Qur’an literally when most do not know what is in it?

@ TARA

Very comprehensive!

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I wonder if the ban that the government did is meant to do the little thing that the Syrian government can do to punish the West for the sanctions, as most these products come for west,( Cars and other luxury items.

Ehsani,

your efforts are appreciated, but try to slow down so you do not get burned out with all the work related to the blog in addition to your other work, just saying,

Shiela,

All Christians in Syria consider themselves Arabs first then Christians beside the Assyrians who are special case,

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@ AP# 300 and True# 303: (I need Camille and Dr. Landis opinions on this comment)

I disagree with Akbar Palace’s comparison of the situation of Christian Syrians now with the Syrian Jews after 1948.

Indeed, the Syrian Jews after 1948 suffered from Anti Jews rhetoric. While the public media always used the word Zionist when describing the state of Israel, in the public mind there was no distinction between Zionist and Jew. The media rhetoric against the Zionist state transformed to a rhetoric demonizing the Jews in the public mind. The word Jew had become in the public mind the byword for all kinds of bad quality, particularly hate and criminality.

However, I should insist that rhetoric never transformed in Syria, contrary to what happened in Egypt, to a systemic harassment or physical harm. Indeed, the Jews in Syria were physically protected by the state. They enjoyed good economic prosperity. Further, the public attitude in everyday life toward them was relatively tolerant, in contrast to the rhetoric. The quarter where I grew up was not far from the Jewish quarter in Damascus. My family physician was Jew. A lot of shops in the area where owned by Jews, who were providing excellent service for the community. Indeed, the main point that made them uncomfortable was the rhetoric against them.

The remaining Jews in Syria are very few (few hundreds. They are all old. I met some of the Syrian Jews in New York. Some (minority)of them regret leaving Syria.

There is no comparison between the situation of the Jews (after 1948) and the present situation of the Christians. There is no one calling them of bad names. There is no raging against them stupid rhetoric. Their fear is just in the mind. It has baseless origin.

(please notice how I put the adjectives and the names Christian Syrians Vs Syrian Jews).

True

Thanks. Good read. To any christian who brings Iraq and Egypt stories, how hypocritical!! Mubarak\’s regime attacked churches covertly and blamed it on the Muslims and the peasant\’ regime in Syria exported terrorists to Iraq to wreck a havoc. So what minorities\’ protection under dictators you are talking about? Or is it just slavery to a thought process that you can\’t get rid of? Can I hear one convincing response?

I agree One-person/One-vote is the solution and this surely includes the Palestinian Right to Self-Determination, do you agree?

True,

I agree. One person/one-vote means a Christian can vote for or against Assad. Or for/against Hezbollah or for/against Likud, or for/against Hamas or the PA. The point is, only in Israel do they have elections where this is possible. And that includes “racist” Israel, where Arabs are free to vote for whomever they want.

You should be able to vote for whoever you want and support whoever you want without having to worry about your job or your health.

Palestine’s right to self-determination was agreed to between Israel and the Palestinians. It is called the PA. Membership to the UN is not a human right. It has to be agreed to in the UN.

Kurds, for example, do not have the right to “self determination” unless they are granted self-determination from Iran, Iraq, Syria or Turkey. So far, none of these states feel the need to follow Israel’s “racist” example.

Do you really believe your should pack your bags and run instead of fighting for your own country?

True,

Sure. Jews have fought for every country they lived in. The point is, throughout history, the very countries Jews have fought for have turned against them. So perhaps some small minorities of Christians are “feeling the heat”. This is what I am hearing/reading. Why risk your life for a country that doesn’t want you?

How come they’re increasing while they’re under the risk of being deported after the racist Binyamin Netanyahu has declared that Israel is a “Jewish state”.

True,

Who is being deported? Israel is a state of the Jewish People. Again, for the umpteenth time, we identify ourselves as a people AND as a religion. Because we are the majority in Israel, we have the right to identify as such. Moreover, Israel has freedom of speech, free elections, freedom of religion while having no State religion. Therefore, when the majority identifies itself differently, Israel can change her flag, national anthem, and/or identification. If Palestine wants to identify itself as a Muslim state, it wouldn’t be the first one.

To the despiring poet of 212

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SNP.. DON’T TAKE THE MEDICATION

Israel approves 1,100 settlements despite peace talks

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-28/am-israel-settlements/3025782?section=world

Israel has approved the construction of 1,100 new settlement homes on disputed land in the West Bank, less than a week after promising to pursue peace with the Palestinians.

The houses, as well as a new school, public buildings and an industrial site, will all go up on land claimed by the Palestinians but occupied by Israel.

The new homes are to be built in Gilo, an urban settlement that Israel erected on West Bank land it captured in the 1967 war and annexed unilaterally as part of its declared capital, Jerusalem.

The plan dramatically increases the size of the Jewish settlement there.

One member of the planning committee says the approval “is a nice gift for the Jewish New Year, Rosh Hashanah”.

@ Norman 310.

I agree. Rather I would say all Christians in Syria consider themselves Syrian before being Christians. For examples, this is one of the nuances that should be emphasized in the new constitution.

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@ Akbar Palace #314

There is no comparison between the Jews situation and the Christian situation in Syria. Please read #312

Protect your local Zionist

I disagree with Akbar Palace’s comparison of the situation of Christian Syrians now with the Syrian Jews after 1948.

Haytham Khoury,

Just to clarify, I don’t think the situation is the same, except that both communities are vulnerable. The Christians didn’t try to create a new Christian state for example. However, the fact of the matter is, Christian communities are dwindling all over the ME. Why?

But you’re saying 2 contradictory things:

First you’re saying Syrian anti-semitism was acute:

The word Jew had become in the public mind the byword for all kinds of bad quality, particularly hate and criminality.

And then you say Jews were treated well:

However, I should insist that rhetoric never transformed in Syria, contrary to what happened in Egypt, to a systemic harassment or physical harm. Indeed, the Jews in Syria were physically protected by the state. They enjoyed good economic prosperity.

Apparently, Syrian Jews got the message. They’re gone.

309. Norman

“the Syrian government can do to punish the West for the sanctions”

That’s a shaggy dog story!!

Syria imports only %9.4 from Europe in total. The biggest hit is on the Chinese best friend with %10.8

Imports $15.44 billion (2010 est.) Import goods machinery and transport equipment, electric power machinery, food and livestock, metal and metal products, chemicals and chemical products, plastics, yarn, paper

Main import partners
China 10.8%,
Saudi Arabia 10.1%,
Turkey 7%,
UAE 5%,
Italy 4.9%,
South Korea 4.7%,
Germany 4.5%,
Russia 4.2%,
Lebanon 4.1%,
Egypt 4.1% (2009)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sy.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Syria

The Obstacle to Peace is the PA

Israel approves 1,100 settlements despite peace talks

Ann,

What “peace talks” are you talking about? Whether Israel builds settlements or not, the PA has refused to return to the negotiating table.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703558004574581672227706980.html

Dear Jad @ 223
https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=12186&cp=all#comment-274837

‘Thank you very much for sharing with us your experience traveling back home’
you are welcome , as I said I had the intention to share my observations with all of you guys but I only shared here some notes about the Christians
I stopped taking notes in Syria when a member of my family was threatened and we had to flee out of the city, my main concern was the safety of my family, I am sorry to say that my family is already on the run inside Syria , you know my brother is here already and it will not be long before the rest of my family is coming here however they are safe now .
I found one page that I didn’t delete from my visit to Syria , I would like to share with you and who ever cares . here it is :

‘’i will take advantage of the limited internet access i have to share with you my experience
i arrived few days ago to rediscover Syria again ,the first thing surprised me was the over polite air port police officers ,the word to describe them was polite and professionals but they are over doing it .
in Damascus all was quiet and normal ,we had to refill the car we stopped near yabrud to refill , we heard that George Nakhli from yabroud was shot dead on the front of his door ,he was threatened before and accused to be a government informant

we drove to Homs in the early morning to avoide arriving during the night to Homs
the first military presence i saw was at Tadmure junction ,the entrance of the city from Damascus ,group of 3 soldiers looked very nervous ,i waved for them and they waved back smiling !! its amazing what a smile could do to the other person in this days in Syria
Homs was a ghost city, very few people i saw in Al-Hadara and less people in Babelsbaa ,
in babelsbaa the first thing I noticed the tanks marks on the streets , the streets were filthy but I was told its was clean comparing to few days a go before the army entered the neighbourhood .
people were vigilant ,they would stare at you as if they can read and scan your mind ,a smile will do you and do the other person a big favour and he/she would smile back ,all people looked like they were let down by someone or something /something
People are still the same, very kind very simple what changed is that they speak politics now , you can feel their anger and great disappointment i don’t know from what but i am sure i will find out
i want to share with you about the Christian community , my observations to the people i met from my family and friends most of them were politically virgins when i left Syria but not anymore
i arrived expecting them (Christians) to be on the side of the government but i was surprised to learn they are not, they still as i left them, criticize the government a lot but now they pray things will calm down and they expect the government to sort things out ,speaking to any of them will confuse you he dose criticize the regime and acknowledge the demands of the protestors but at the same time criticize the protestors even more ‘because the are destroying the country ‘

, in the entrance to babelsbaa ,there is few military vehicles one of them is anti aircraft when i asked why this needed i was told for the protection of the solders from bullets . you could see empty bullets at any corner my nephew has a new hobby ‘collecting bullets ‘ he has more than 40 , I found on my way 2 he added them to his collection .
every day after altarayeeh prayer we hear gun shots , I was hopping to see the people protesting sopecially that I live in the heart of babelsbaa , but I couldn’t see any , all the protests starts from the mosque and they walk toward the castle , I could hear voices from far away but in babelsba I hear only guns without any protests ,‘’

I stopped the writing here because of the threats.

It’s very sad how Homs became! Homs is already in a civil war, without the army there, the city will explode, every one knows that even revolutionists.

In reply to your questions

‘ Wadi Al Nasara is the place to measure it from, because it has the majority of Christian Syrians there, right? ‘
I am not sure as I have no accurate statics but as percentage you are absolutely correct
‘it seems that Syrian Christians are split between anti and pro, the same % of all other Syrian communities no surprise there and all what we are reading about Christians being either 100% pro or 100% anti are nothing but pure propaganda to be used by either side of the conflict for political gains.’
you are right with that as well if you are talking about Syria in general but if you are speaking about Homs so its different. in Homs unfortunately people split according to their sects already , I am talking about Homs the city and not the towns , almost all Christians do not support the revolution and almost all sunnis do support the revolution.

‘ how much more Syrian blood do people need to see before they say enough? ‘
People are saying enough already , everyone wants things to stop , but the do not underestimate the media effect on people , the regime supporters and ‘the silent majority’ do NOT watch Aljazeera and co ,the revolutionists they do not watch SANA and co , in my opinion the media has the biggest role on what is going on in Syria ,people do not want war every one thik he is doing the right thing , I spoke to some revolutionists , I dare not to call them mundaseen , I met only good people thinking they are doing the right thing ,everything we learned in school and from our parents and our media about resistance martyrdom and heroism is what driving those people ,the only thing changed is the enemy , the media managed to change the enemy from the occupier to the current regime ,very sad what I saw . I don’t know how the media will stop its war, but what I know is the majority of the people are fed up with the current situation and they are the one who should end it !

@ Akbar Palace

I refuse to talk to anyone who does not acknowledge the Palestinian rights of

• Ending the occupation
• Stopping the expansion of settlements
• Right of return to the real Palestine in 1948
• Right of self-Determination which means to ask them where do they prefer to live

Comply with these legitimate rights then claim being in the state of democracy. For the time being it’s an Israeli occupation.

Nuff said.

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Where is Aboud Alwahabi today?is he boiling a soldier?or is he using the name True today?

@ Louai 322

Excellent and objective description.

For Mr Simon Collins,
As the demonstrations in Syria are losing their momentum and thus allowing newspapers to mention the Palestinian issue again, you have decided to take off you ambassador’s hat and do what an ambassador is not supposed to do. Not only you give wrong information by stating that satellite channels and websites are blocked, but you omit to mention the hundreds of thousands Iraqi refugees that get phonecalls everyday from all over the world without being bothered, or the thousands of Syrians who have recently joined Skype and Facebook and are now participating in the global conversation. It is your country and the US who wanted Syria to be a totally locked territory in the last years, after some attemps of opening up were made by B. Al Asad, officially to guarantee the safety of your troops in Iraq. But what did you do to prevent the massacre of Christians and others in Iraq and their exodus to Syria? And where are they supposed to go next, if we have to sign up for a regime fall and a debaathification and the request of autonomy of the Kurds and columns of Palestinian refugees going back home? I wonder what you will find then, but it’s your job to be cunny, no doubt, after all, with all his Mubarak and Kadhafi’s friendship, Blair is still the head of the totally discredited quartet.
You are obviously trying to give a green light to activists on the ground, and this comes next to H. Clinton threats to the Lebanese premier. So again, it’s all about Iran and Lebanon.
Coming from a monarchy, where most people don’t know why they should pay extra taxes to help the royal family live a life of leissure and tax evasion, you are certainly the last person who can give lessons in democracy. The record of the UK in education is also deeply unbalanced, with half the population not even understanding the slang spoken by the working class (cockney english) and “top schools” (Oxford and Cambridge) that are the symbol of a co-opted, super-rich, elite.
What did your country and the UN do in 2009 when 40,000 Tamils were massacred by the army in Sri Lanka? Nothing. You are simply trying to have Syria in the news because you prefer the media to turn a blind eye on Yemen,Bahrein and the coming events in Palestine. If the refugees headed home, and fell under the bullets of the Israeli army, I bet you wouldn’t have a single post on your blog. When the Muslim Brothers in Germany and France will take the streets and request the right to have Muslim political parties, you won’t move a finger, because with a Muslim population mainly from South East Asia, the MB are not a problem for the UK. Quite the opposite, while these extremists were under trial in their countries of origin (Yemen, Syria, Jordan), you gave them accomodations and a microphone, enabling the famous “Londonistan”. Now the UK, Qatar and France are distributing weapons all over North Africa to keep a way of presuring Tunisia and Egypt in case they turn too far left. It is so convenient to create yourself an enemy somewhere, now that you can’t do more in Iraq, Somalia, and Afghanistan/Pakistan. It diverts people from their problems: a financial crisis, caused by the most powerful on earth (for lack of regulations, and personal interest)that they should accept and sit watching the glamorous lives of royal families…

Dear NK

‘219. NK SAID:
‘I have no doubt that monsters are being created, and the regime bears full responsibility for creating this mess. For months now 5-10 people die every single day and that’s in Homs alone, you can not expect them to remain rational especially when there’s total disregard to the law by non other than those expected to uphold the law. You are talking about a few sectarian incidents now, however this situation should persist I expect a full fledged civil war on the streets of Homs, and maybe in other places. It’s so sad that the Army and the Police cannot be part of the solution here since they’re the agitators and the reason we got here in the first place.’

I would disagree with you about the reason we got there but You are partially right however the same apply on the revolutionists ,in Homs the civil war is already there , trust me without the army we will the ugliest civil war ever ! I know you think the army is the problem but in Homs at least the army is the protection for both sides .
‘’Dear Louai, have you noticed that despite all the crimes you just described and the many many more crimes the regime propaganda machine accused the armed gangs of committing we have not seen a single trial ? not even against those who appeared on State TV confessing their crimes ‘
I have no good answer for that , I always wonder why we don’t see this trials or hear that those people were charged with this crimes , I mean the government could use it as a big propaganda tool , there are crimes you and me know that they did happen , Nidal Janood for example was killed and filmed , his killers admitted on TV and there is no doubt that he did it , I don’t understand why they are not sentenced so far I hope some one or you explain to me .

ID ABOUD is out preparing to celebrate the Jewish New Year, “Rosh Hashanah”

thank you Haytham

It Takes 2 to Tango

I refuse to talk to anyone who does not acknowledge the Palestinian rights of

True,

Feel free to talk to whoever you want. However, I just want you to know that regarding your 4 points above, the international community understands that these issues can only be solved by negotiation.

Habby New Year

ID ABOUD is out preparing to celebrate the Jewish New Year, “Rosh Hashanah”

Ann,

No, he’s probably conspiring with Arabs who want freedom for Palestinians but not for themselves.

Louai, thanks a lot. This reflects my experience too. The only fundamentalists I ever met in Syria were from Homs, and the brother had got papers to go to France and open a shop of “Islamic clothing”, no doubt with the help of the MBs. The most important problem in France as it seems for this person was that there was a need for more mosques because people were praying in the streets on friday. I mentioned that they could also take the tube or buses and go to the big mosque in the centre of Paris instead, but obviously there was an agenda of claiming political rights as a “Muslim minority”. I saw the same thing in Berlin with pot-smokers who were bought by some Wahhabis to play Coran in some garden of big appartment blocks and of course, it was just 2 months before a local election.
Again, if it was Zawahiri instead of Aroor talking of the UK instead of Syria, there would have been an immediate answer. When you think Aroor has been also active on Twitter and FB promoting his hatred shows on his Wesal TV since March, you get a picture of the media impact. Syria is unwillingly now at the forefront of the battle against the extremists, and it pays for having given asylum to Hamas and helping Hizbollah, who indeed are in part basing their popularity on spreading extremism and a medieval versions of islam, but this is something to expect from armed resistance, when it has to discipline the troops.

@ Akbar Palace #319

I can talk precisely about Syria.

The Christian emigration from Syria happened mainly, during three periods: 1860 (due to the Ottoman persecution), 1915 (during the first world war due to the famine) and 1980-now (during Assad’s rule due to the police state instated by Hafez al-Assad).

Infact, during Hafez al-Assad, not only the Christians left, but also the Muslims. For this reason, the dwindling number of Christian in Syria in the last decades is not not because they are specifically targeted, but because the general situation is bad.
I am one of the people who refused to go back to the country, because I do not want to kneel to Hafez al-Assad’s thugs. I did not emigrate because I felt threatened by me fellow Syrians.

The Assad regime account for the Christians’ dwindling number.

To the not so Poetic

And what I wrote applies to both your poetic pretense, literary attempts, and the non-nourishing food for the single thought you have been hammering for months on with no evolution or any meaningful contribution to the dialog. You keep painting everyone you disagree with using a single cartoonish image that has been discredited from day one.You are scared and angry, and I can understand your spasms and reactions. But what I can’t understand is that after months of being on this site, you have taken nothing, nothing from all the discussions and arguments. What a shame. Fear is freezing you into a vicious cycle of a single nightmare. But pitty is more negative than sarcasm. So be happy that I do not pitty you and be happier that had I not felt that you have a thread or two of decency, I would not have bothered.

@ 327 – well said MINA. We syrians have the palestinian issue embedded in our blood. We have sat down and watched the Gulf nations bow down to the wests hypocrisy, and that is why you see 70% of the sunni population and 99% of the other sects and religions in syria stand by the current syrian government. We will not join the wahhabi states with their hidden agendas.

@ 334 – Haytham, your completely wrong. Yes the christians did emigrate during the early 1980’s. But it was as you should recall, due to your uncles and grandfathers who belonged to the muslim brotherhood, murdering and raping the christian minorities. The Assad family brought about security and freedom of religion. So you better think twice before spreading your lies and propaganda on this blog. Just call one of your christian friends who lives in Homs or Hama and ask them how life is with all these islamic extremist roaming the streets at night? Ask them if they will let their daughter out alone at night to buy an icecream? Let them tell you about how they have been threatened by the terrorists for not wearing full body clothing. Let the truth be told. These islamic terrorists in Homs are trying to turn the city into another Saudi Arabia and Wahhabistan. How about the christian girl who was kidnapped and forced to strip naked and be filmed by the islamic extremists. She was forced into saying that the army raped her. This is the SYRIAN REVOLUTION

322. LOUAI

Thank you for your input and your candor.

Sheila,
What you write show that it is easier to be a cyber activist than a politician. You don’t want to think seriously about sharia and the law/legal system, i. e. about the power given to religious authorities in dealing with private and civil matters (this apply also and even more for the various Christian sects). In that case you don’t want to think about the possibility of achieving egality between genders in terms of rights. You just say “it would be nice, Hammurabi, etc”. By the way, shari’a is already in most Arab constitutions, so it is not about writing it, but just about admitting that Arab societies are more than the different madhhabs and their different customs (plus recognizing the existence of the non-Muslims in the society).
Finlly, you say in one sentence “As for Saudi Arabia, I consider it to be the most backwards country of all. (…)In my view, the US is far more of an Islamic state than SA is. Discriminating against women and other religions was never a part of Islam.”
Well that tells a lot about cyber activism and living in a virtual reality. I bet you wouldn’t exchange the rights you have in the US for the ones offered in Saudi Arabia.
As for Islam discriminating agains women and other religions, indeed, that’s not what we can read in the Coran (unless we want to take every sentence literally), but unfortunatly, this is what has happened through history. And this again, is because the reality of power differs from cyber activism.

Just finished watching the BBC documentary about the Syrian uprising. It’s another indictment of the criminal Assad mafia. I am sure Asma’ won’t be watching it any time soon (from wife of a dictator/reformer to wife of a mass murderer and war criminal).

BBC Syria Inside the Secret Revolution Daraa

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Your Terrorist Jihadist friends like kaled Tlass who is going on and on hoping to collect larynxes and slash Syrian commando throat are your pride.Any way I don’t like rats and especially wahabi ones.your response to my posts shows that they are bothering your big master paying rats.if my posts were so stupid then you are you trying to be smart responding to them.I think you are very smart but unfortunately I see no hope in the way you and your jihadist and terrorist friends are taking my country,so I strongly disagree with you,but you seem,being a hamster,not matur enough to accept different opinion.

@ John #337

I am one of the people that refused to Syria, because Hafez al-Assad’s images used to provoke my nausea.

Further, this is a meassage that I recieved from a Hamwi christian

I am Hamwi and I have been in Damascus since 1998. In Hama most of Christians people are with the revolution, but here is Damascus is not the same situation, take me as an example I have lost most of christens friends because the thing that I am bad person and I do not like our county just because I want freedom and I say the troth.
Whatever the situation is I will try and try and always say the truth , what I know my muslims friends are not salafeen and not mondaseen.. by the way the same story in 1982 my grandfather had been killed by the government because of we were living in Hama, yes the government killed my Christian grandfather under because they thought that he is Ekwan Muslemiin…. In 1982 the all Hama had been destroyed because of the story of AlAssd system “Ekwan Muslemiin” and now all Syria us being destroyed in the same way and lies ” Mondaswwn, Salafeen> and whatever.
And now right now my godfather. Gorger sabra is in jail somewhere in Syria… actuality Christian free people are lost and week we cannot so almost anything. Because this will be against the church and the system.
Thank you again and sorry for my bad English.
Adham

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Haytham Khoury,

Thank you for the explanation in 334. It makes more sense to me now.

#325 Ask Besho’s sister where I am. “Drill baby drill!” LOL!

So delicious that the cookie cutter menhebaks are pissed off at the British ambassador. He really hit a nerve with them 🙂

When you boil down the cookie cutter menhebaks’ posts, they come down to this;

“Extremists. Jihadists. Extremists. Jihadists. Extremists profanities conspiracies extremists Jihadists*

The same tired excuse that didn’t work for Bin Ali, Mubarak or Zinga Zinga. If I was a menhebak (God forbid) I’d be sorely disappointed at Besho’s lack of imagination.

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Just saw another of the regime’s trumpets on Al-Jazeera. For all the whining the menhebaks do about Al-Jazeera, the channel does allow everyone from all sides to express their opinions. You will never see that on the sectarian incitement promoting Al-Dunya. One wonders where the menhebaks are going to get their daily fix of incitement from now.

“Extremists jihadists extremists jihadists extremists with a sprinkle of posts that try to make believe that the SNP was ever relevant (it never was. One moment the dude is pro-regime, the next he’s anti-regime.)”

“Just call one of your christian friends who lives in Homs or Hama and ask them how life is with all these islamic extremist roaming the streets at night?”

More sick and perverted fantasies about rape from the disturbed menhebaks. The army has a division in Homs, and two more outside it. Homs has been under military occupation for months. How then are “islamist extremists” roaming the streets at night? What is your army doing then? Pleasuring each other? LOL!

Aboud Alwahabi
At least jihadist and extremist are all over like your dudes Kalid Tlass and Abumer.
You wahabis are hallucinating about:Persians ,shabiha,Persians,shabiha,Persians…

@ 342 – Haytham, why dont you pay a visit to Wadi Nasara or mashta helou, where 90% of the christians and 50% of the sunni’s from Hama have fled your loveable Hamwi extremists, that you claim are with the revolution. Why dont you go and listen to their stories first hand about what they witnessed. Why dont u go and drive down to Mhardeh which is part of the city of Hama ( inhabited with 25,000 christians ). Ask the christians their how they have their town besieged by your freedom loving revolutionists. Ask the family of the car dealer in Mhardeh who was kidnapped and held for ransom by your loveable and caring islamic extremist revolutionist, how they adore your revolution. Hiding behind this blog and claiming to be christian and also claiming that the christians of Hama are with the revolution is really absurd.

You can keep on blabbering on about how you are christian and how the christians are with the revolution. It wont achieve nothing but appease the geek islamic extremist internet bloggers on this.

*** L’SHANAH TOVAH ***

EU powers drop UN Syria sanctions call

European countries proposing a new UN resolution over Syria have dropped demands for immediate sanctions against President Bashar al-Assad’s government.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15085816

The draft, proposed by the UK, France, Germany and Portugal and backed by the US, threatens sanctions only if the repression of protests does not end.

The scaled-back version is aimed at winning the support of China and Russia, which oppose sanctions.

Western diplomats say they are planning for a vote by the end of the week.

The draft resolution “demands an immediate end to all violence”, according to copies obtained by news agencies.

It says the 15-nation Security Council “expresses its determination, in the event that Syria has not complied with this resolution, to adopt targeted measures, including sanctions”.

Last month the US, Britain, France, Germany and Portugal put forward a draft resolution calling for sanctions against President Assad, members of his family and close associates.

But Russia and China have threatened to veto any sanctions resolution against Syria.

Others countries which oppose sanctions include a bloc of key emerging powers – India, South Africa, and Brazil.
Wider crisis

The BBC’s Barbara Plett at the UN in New York says some countries fear any outside involvement in Syria could trigger a much wider crisis.

Their position has been hardened by Nato’s actions in Libya, which they say has overstepped a UN mandate to protect civilians there, she adds.

An other inside story:

Une journaliste a filmé la répression en Syrie
Sofia Amara, 43 ans, est la première journaliste indépendante à avoir pu filmer – en août 2011 – la révolte du peuple syrien et sa sanglante répression. Son documentaire “Syrie, dans l’enfer de la répression”, sera diffusé le 11 octobre à 20h40 sur Arte. Pour lavie.fr elle nous raconte son périple à haut risque.
http://www.lavie.fr/actualite/monde/une-journaliste-a-filme-la-repression-en-syrie-27-09-2011-20316_5.php

Syria sanctions strategy ‘unreliable’ – Lavrov

http://rt.com/news/syria-sanctions-lavrov-507/

Russia cannot support the project on Syria being pushed through by the West, Foreign Minister Lavrov stated in New York ahead of his address to the UN General Assembly.

Sergey Lavrov said he believed that placing sanctions on Syria are “not a very reliable strategy”.

“We ask what the next strategy is, how have you calculated your next steps? The answer we get is that we haven’t thought about it yet, but President Assad needs to go, we need to drive him into a corner with sanctions – he should go first, and then we’ll see,” Lavrov said in an interview with “Russia 24” channel. “It’s a very simple but – I believe – not very reliable strategy, if it can be called a strategy at all,” he concluded.

The United States and the European Union have already implemented unilateral sanctions against Syria.On September 13 they announced measures including bans on oil imports and an asset freeze. Western powers have been calling within the United Nations Security council for a resolution on Syria in the form of a set of sanctions. The US is calling for the resignation of the Syrian president, Bashar Assad, whose regime has led a deadly crackdown on anti-government protesters.

And while new fighting erupted in Syria between pro-government forces and rebels for the control of several key cities, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moualem said in an address to the UN General Assembly that the West was trying to create “total chaos” in order to break up the country.

Government troops have reportedly stormed a key opposition town after pounding it overnight with heavy machine-gun fire.

The United Nations says more than 2,700 Syrians, including 100 children, have been killed during six-months of unrest sparked by an uprising against the 41-year rule of the Assad dynasty.

­Journalist and anti-war activist Susan Lindauer says that Syria should heed the words of Russia’s foreign minister and allow in foreign mediation.

“There is no way the Syrian president can do it by himself, and he is not receiving any proper assistance from the United States or any European power that would be able to offer conflict resolution,” she told RT. “Sanctions are not the answer, sanctions only hurt the Syrian people. If Bashar al-Assad is wise, he would quickly invite a Russian delegation to come in and help the Syrian government resolve this problem.”

“Sanctions freeze the situation, so that diplomacy is stalled,” she concluded. “It never works. It is a bad strategy, and it means that they lack ideas for solving the problem.”

322. LOUAI said:

Louai, from my relatives in Wadi-Alnsara, here is the picture I get:

1. The wadi is now swelling from those who vacated Homs and many non-wadi citizens are desperately looking for somewhere to live there.

2. Apparently, some body has been trying to stir trouble as Sunni citizens have told their Christian comrades that they were told to attack the Christians as well the Alawites. North-western portion of the Valley has pure Alawite and mixed Christian-Alawite towns. But given the excellent relationship and long shared history among all groups, the Sunni comrades told the “trouble makers” to piss-off.

3. “Trouble makers” from Tell Khalakh have passed through the valley seeking hide out from government forces and were told to go away by Sunni and Christian citizens.

4. The valley is still behind the president and if there was any dissent, it may have shrunk after the city dwellers vacated and told stories of horror and killing. One of the reasons they are behind him (and possibly) most Christians in Syria, he has encouraged Christians to be proud of who they are and to promote their long history in the country. Also the Valley has a large population of SSNP supporters that dates back to the 50-60s and this is another reason they support the government to transition rather than have a revolution.

5. Wadi Al-Nasara citizens, at least Christians have lots of land holdings that is still owned by the same families for generations and have many relatives and family members outside Syria. Through the years, they learned to manage with good and bad government policy and they receive lots of money from those overseas clan members. Hence, they can ride-out the economic sanctions on the country without feeling much pain and not turn against the government. Being close to Lebanon (we can see the snow covered mountains with the naked eye), they can also rely on goods smuggled easily.

Thank you for your honest report DARRYL

The TRUTH offends haytham koury and his al qaeda friends

Bonjour Annie et Jihanne,
est-ce-que vous avez déjà visiter http://souriahouria.com/ aujourd’hui?
Il me semble que son mari veut distribuer l’appel.

Darryl

Now we’re talking the same language, and I totally agree with what you wrote in #307. Let me just point out a few things

We are already paying Jizya in Syria, forget the name and let’s look at what Jizya is. “You pay a set amount of money and in return you don’t have to serve in the Army”. Does that sound familiar ?, now that I’m thinking about it, even if you insist on the (being humiliated while paying it) bit, there is plenty of humiliation going around, if you visited “???? ???????” before then you know what I’m talking about 😉

As for the Egyptian sheikhs, they are miserable souls but they’re not alone in this world, just check out Terry Jones, or Franklin Graham or even this guy
http://bit.ly/ocLxKz
Or even our own SNP, not to go too far
https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=8673&cp=4#comment-243828
Luckily those guys can never flourish in an open society, and it’s about time the Arab countries join the rest of the civilized world.

As for your last point, I think the problem is not the sheikhs but the media that only focuses on the bad and ignores the good.

In conclusion, I agree that the culture in the Arab world has to change, the first step is to free ourselves of tyranny and oppression.

Aboud
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In the US now.it is almost 9am in Homs,go get some ??????? ?? ???? or ???.

Russia’s Lavrov says BRICS aren’t looking for fight

Russia and its partners in the “BRICS” bloc of emerging market economies, which Western powers see as increasingly obstructionist on Syria and other issues, are not looking for a fight, Russia said on Tuesday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/27/us-un-assembly-russia-idUSTRE78Q4ET20110927

The BRICS group — Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — has resisted attempts by the U.N. Security Council to impose sanctions on Syria, thwarting efforts by U.S. and European officials to punish Damascus for its six-month crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators.

But in Russia’s annual speech to the United Nations, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov denied that there was any attempt by the five nations to cause trouble.

“BRICS does not aim at confrontation with anyone,” he told the 193-nation U.N. General Assembly. “Its goal is to enhance productive multilateral collaboration to address the urgent problems of the contemporary world.”

By coincidence, all five BRICS nations are currently on the Security Council, where they have managed to block U.S. and European efforts to impose U.N. sanctions on Syria for its crackdown that has killed at least 2,700 people, by U.N. counts.

Some Western diplomats complain that the BRICS countries increasingly favor policies of nonintervention in crises like Libya, Syria and elsewhere.

BRICS members charged that NATO overstepped a U.N. mandate in Libya, although South Africa initially voted in favor of a March 2011 U.N. Security Council resolution that authorized NATO operations to protect civilians in the north African country and enforce a no-fly zone.

Lavrov repeated the BRICS’ criticism in his U.N. speech.

“The attempts to go beyond the UNSC (U.N. Security Council) mandate are unacceptable, since they undermine its authority and multiply the suffering of innocent civilians,” he said.

PROVOKING VIOLENCE

On Syria, Lavrov repeated Russia’s criticism of the opposition to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who has faced growing street protests demanding an end to 41 years of Assad family rule.

In response, Assad has sent troops and tanks into cities and towns across the country over the last six months, though he has promised to implement some political reforms.

“As for Syria, it is inadmissible to boycott proposals on a national dialogue, stir up confrontation and provoke violence, while neglecting, albeit late, but still achievable reforms proposed by President Bashar al-Assad,” Lavrov said.

Western diplomats on the Security Council say that Russia, which like China holds a veto on the Security Council, is the strongest opponent among the five BRIC nations to imposing U.N. sanctions on Syria’s leadership.

The Western powers, however, plan to submit a new draft resolution to the Security Council soon that would condemn Damascus and threaten future action if Syria does not halt its crackdown. Such a resolution, European diplomats say, will hopefully be more palatable to the BRICS.

Lavrov confirmed Russia’s support for the Palestinian application for U.N. membership for a Palestinian state, which President Mahmoud Abbas delivered to the United Nations on Friday. Washington has vowed to veto the Palestinian application when and if the Security Council votes on it.

Lavrov also called for stepped-up diplomatic efforts to solve the confrontations over the nuclear programs of Iran and North Korea, saying that ending both of those disputes would improve the global nonproliferation regime.

“We see no alternative to their political and diplomatic settlement and taking concrete steps to create conditions for the resumption of negotiations,” Lavrov said. “We call on all partners to address these tasks with utmost responsibility.”

Dear 263. sheila :

I also lived in Spain under Franco and was there to witness the chaos when he died. … They rioted, burnt cars and broke every phone booth they could get their hands on. That was not my experience in the Levante.
I lived there much earlier but used to visit every year thereafter.

In 1975 when Franco died, the pent up frustration that exploded was also sexual.

Spaniards used to travel to the French border to buy pornography. That was the explosion I witnessed. I remember the bus where all the men were buried in their x rated magazines.

Cookie cutter menhebak #335, when it comes to the truth and credibility, your regime is the Bernie Madoff of the media world. If Standard and Poor gave credit ratings for credibility, you’d be in the minus triple F. Who else would claim that al-Jazeera had built mock ups of Syrian cities. Heck, you people would get your own special Betho rating.

The entire efforts of the menhebaks on this forum tend to drift towards fantasies; the absurd, and the frankly sick. We have the fake Christian Homsi getting off on imagining the rape of women. We have the irrelevant SNPer day dreaming that his bunch of old men were ever relevant. We have the frustrated writer No Klue seething that his Besho fan fiction isn’t getting picked up by publishers (“Besho Athad and the Global Extremist Conspiracy By Extremists to Promote Extremism”)

The menhebaks are no longer even pretending that the majority of the country support their leader. Their efforts this past week has all been focused on trying to convince the world that a *sizeable* segment of *Christians* support the Baathists. Not even *most*, just a sizeable. They bring up Iraq and Lebanon, ignoring the disgraceful role their own regime played in wrecking those countries.

Even the NY Times article offered only a Facebook comment as evidence of *Christian* support for the murderous junta. A third of the article was about a Christian who ran away from the shabiha scum and found sanctuary with a family. Typical menhebaks, post an article without bothering to read it. And since when did the menhebaks start loving the NY Times anyway? LOL! They are nothing if not hypocrites. Just look at how their UN representative voted when he was on the security council, obligingly toeing the line drawn by the Americans and Europe.

Syria may fall victim to ‘new cycle of colonial wars’ – UN debate hears

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=39844&Cr=syria&Cr1=

27 September 2011 –
Syria runs the risk of falling victim to the same “new cycle of colonial wars” that was imposed on Libya, Venezuela told the General Assembly’s annual general debate today.

In a message delivered by Venezuelan Foreign Minister Nicolás Maduro Moros, President Hugo Chávez Frías said that the real reason for military intervention in Libya this year was to take over its wealth, and that the same imperialist tactics are being exercised in Syria.

“It is intolerable that the powers of the world intend to claim for themselves the right to direct the lawful rulers to resign immediately. This was the case in Libya and they want to proceed in the same way in Syria,” he said.

In March, the Security Council authorized Member States to take “all necessary measures” to protect civilians, following the crackdown against a popular uprising by the forces supporting the then leader Muammar al-Qadhafi.

Members of NATO subsequently carried out air strikes and, after months of fighting between pro-Qadhafi forces and rebels, the National Transitional Council (NTC) has been internationally recognized as having assumed authority over the country.

Mr. Chávez called for the immediate cessation of the bombing operation in Libya, and spoke strongly against any form of intervention in Syria.

“The ‘Libyan Case’ was brought before the Security Council on the basis of an intense propaganda by the Western mass media, who lied about the alleged bombing of innocent civilians by the Libyan air force, not to mention the grotesque media setting of the Green Square of Tripoli,” he said.

“After the Libyan air force was completely annihilated, the continued ‘humanitarian’ bombing shows that the West, through North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), intends to impose their interests in North Africa, turning Libya into a colonial protectorate,” he added.

Mr. Chávez stressed that the same should not happen in Syria, and that military intervention should not be an option for the country.

“Only the Syrian people can solve their problems and decide their fate in the light of the right to self-determination of the peoples, an inalienable right in all respects,” he said.

“Were it not for some permanent members showing a firm stance, everything would be defined within the Security Council to authorize shooting missiles and sending bombardiers against Syria,” he added.

240. Akbar Palace said:

Happy New Year! You have my forgiveness for not answering our questions about your family ancestry;)

Let me guess; Big Palacio assumes that Amir being so nice with Arabs must be an Oriental Jew.

Since we have a delegation of the people from over the border Emir and Akbar, and Shai and Yossi and AIG I would like to send them to this site http://www.youngjewishproud.org/.

As I said before, these youngsters will tip the balance away from the blind US support for the rogue state they are connected with or live in.

Syrians are much more tolerant of your posts however irritating they can sometimes be. Try and have a dissenting voice heard at some zionist sites.

At UN, Syria warns of ‘blatant conspiracies’ from outsiders against its people

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=39802&Cr=syria&Cr1=

26 September 2011 –
Syrian authorities will continue to undertake political, social and economic reforms but they will also act to protect citizens from “blatant conspiracies” aimed at sabotaging national security or inviting outside interventions, the country’s Foreign Minister told the United Nations today.

Addressing the General Assembly’s annual general debate, Walid al-Moualem said the reform process is “a work in progress” in Syria, where large numbers of protesters have for months been calling for greater democracy and freedoms.

He said many of the demands for reform have already been met, and they will continue through a process of national dialogue based on “national unity, sovereignty and independence.”

He cited changes announced in June to liberalize the country’s media, guarantee political pluralism and reform the staging of parliamentary elections and the management of local government.

Top UN officials have repeatedly expressed concern this year about the nature of the Government’s response to the largely peaceful protest movement, with at least 2,600 Syrians estimated to have been killed after military forces clashed with demonstrators.

The UN Human Rights Council has ordered an inquiry into the violence after an earlier UN fact-finding mission outlined a litany of Government abuses, including murders, enforced disappearances and acts of torture.

But Mr. al-Moualem said the overriding focus of authorities has been to deal with “the external pressures which were at times tantamount to blatant conspiracies.”

He said that “popular demands and claims have been manipulated to further objectives which are alien to the interests and express desires of the Syrian people. These demands were the stepping stone used by armed groups to sow discord and sabotage our security. They became the new pretext for foreign interventions.

“Syria exercised its responsibility to protect its citizens. It acted to guarantee their safety and stability. Vigilance against the danger of foreign intervention that assumes a different form with each passing day, and challenging it does not mean underestimating popular demands.”

Mr. al-Moualem said there had been a “surge in the activities of armed groups” within Syria that was a “manifestation of foreign intervention,” and he criticized moves by the United States and the European Union to impose sanctions, saying they would hurt the daily needs of ordinary Syrians.

Describing his country as a model of coexistence that has opted for secularism over religious or ethnic favouritism, the Foreign Minister said that the clear “purpose of this unjust anti-Syria campaign currently under way is to attack this model of coexistence that has been a source of pride to our people.

“How we can otherwise explain media provocations, financing and arming religious extremism? What purpose could this serve other than total chaos that would dismember Syria – and consequently adversely affect its neighbours?”

363. annie

I was of course wrong about Oriental Jews being nicer to Arabs; it is often the opposite since they have to out-Herod Herod to prove their loyalty to the state.
Yet, some remain what they are : Arabs, Jewish Arabs or Arab Jews

I feel a little bad about our occasional bantering while people are under siege and I think often of Sheila and the others who are in daily danger.

22:02 A massive protest began in the Daraa neighborhood of Al-Arbain. Security forces stormed the area and pursuing the fleeing demonstrators. (S.N.N.)

22:00 Heavy gunfire was heard in Deir az-Zour. (S.N.N.)

21:33 Security forces are pursuing protesters in the Houran town of Jassem. (S.N.N.)

21:30 Anti-regime protests began in the Houran towns of Mseifra, Al-Jeeza, Taseel, and Al-Teeba. (S.N.N.)

21:15 Protests against the regime began in the cities of Latakia and Deir az-Zour. (S.N.N.)

21:10 Protests demanding the fall of the regime began in the Edleb town of Sermeen and the Homs neighborhood of Deir Baalba. (S.N.N.)

20:37 Protests began in the cities of Qamishli and Amouda. (S.N.N.)

20:35 An anti-regime protest began in the Homs town of Rastan. (S.N.N.)

20:30 A massive protest against the regime began in the city of Teir Maaleh. (S.N.N.)

20:13 A protest began in the city of Derbasiya against the regime. (S.N.N.)

20:07 Explosions rocked the Homs neighborhood of Al-Khaldiyeh. (S.N.N.)

20:04 Security forces arrested four youths in the Homs village of Bouwayda while they were marching in a funeral. (S.N.N.)

20:00 Security forces killed four defecting soldiers in the Homs neighborhood of Baba Amro. (S.N.N.)

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Syria intends to retaliate against Turkey for arms interception

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-258107-syria-intends-to-retaliate-against-turkey-for-arms-interception.html

Syria has announced intentions to review a free trade agreement (FTA) that the country claimed was favoring Turkish trade over Syria’s, a move that came as an obvious attempt at retaliation following Turkey’s initiative to intercept an arms shipment to Syria.

“Political relations and economic relations are two different things. … We need to review certain articles in the FTA we signed with Turkey because it currently favors Turkish trade over Syrian benefits, and it damages us,” Syrian Economy and Trade Minister Mohammad Nidal al-Shaar was quoted as saying by the Cihan news agency on Monday.

The announcement of Syria’s intention to review the FTA, signed back in 2006, comes in clear retaliation for a move by Turkey to increase interceptions on arms shipment to Syria, an initiative Turkey took since Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s rule came under heavy fire over the killings of Syrian civilians. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an is also expected to introduce sanctions against the Assad administration, as he announced last week that he was planning to pay a visit to a camp hosting thousands of Syrian refugees in the southern border province of Hatay. The premier also noted that Turkey would evaluate options for sanctions in the meantime, the outcome of which would be publicized during his visit to Hatay.

Meanwhile, a US diplomat on Tuesday acknowledged that the US welcomed the measures Turkey will take regarding Syria, and the two countries were also engaged in talks to bolster cooperation at a US foreign policy conference regarding the 2011 UN General Assembly meeting.

Michael Hammer, the acting assistant secretary for public affairs at the US State Department, told reporters in New York that although the US applied unilateral sanctions to Syria, they remained minor, and it was highly important for neighboring countries such as Turkey to take steps that might increase the pressure on the Syrian regime, according to an Anatolia news agency report.

The remark came days after Prime Minister Erdo?an announced Turkey would keep on intercepting arms shipments to Syria, as it has been doing in the recent past.

The official also commented on the delivery of US unmanned aerial vehicles named Predators to Turkey, saying the US has a strong partnership with the country and would support Turkey in its fight against the terrorist Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK). Erdo?an announced last week that the US and Turkey had “agreed on principle” for the delivery of the vehicles, and Turkish Defense Minister ?smet Y?lmaz noted on Saturday that the Predators would be delivered to the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) in June 2012. Hammer did not elaborate on the details of the deployment of the Predators, but said he had seen media reports announcing an agreement between Washington and Ankara to deploy the vehicles at the strategic ?ncirlik Air Base in the southern province of Adana.

Turkish officials have met or had phone conversations with their counterparts from the US many times this year, which Hammer considers essential for increasing bilateral cooperation. Hammer also noted on the sidelines that the US had hailed the Turkish decision to install an early warning radar system under a new strategic defense strategy within NATO countries to block missiles coming from outside Europe. Although the defense system was speculated to be a means of protection from the alleged nuclear ambitions of Iran, Turkey insists the system targets any country that threatens NATO members. Iranian officials condemned the Turkish government last week over the decision, warning that there would be serious repercussions for the country and accusing Turkey of hypocrisy with regard to Iran.

Hammer also touched upon the debate over oil and gas resources in the eastern Mediterranean seabed that have set the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities at odds, suggesting that the US-based company that acquired the Greek Cypriot licenses for research and excavation had the right to carry out drilling activities. Greek Cypriot drilling for hydrocarbon sources also triggered Turkey to sign an agreement with Turkish Cypriots to determine continental shelves, allowing the countries to carry out their own drilling operations for resources. Hammer noted that the US had hoped the drilling initiatives would not cause new tension in the region, and that it was in touch with Turkey regarding the situation.

Israeli prove Reality of State Terrorism against Arab People

http://www.dp-news.com/en/detail.aspx?articleid=97953

GENEVE- During a Human Rights Council session, Syria’s Permanent Representative to the UN, Dr. Fayssal al-Hamwi, stressed on Monday that the Israeli violations of human rights prove the reality of state terrorism practiced by Israel and the aggressive tendency against the Arab people.

Al-Hamwi said the talk about Israeli violations of human rights in Palestine and the occupied Syrian Golan comes at a time of critical escalations committed by the Israeli occupation which committed the crime of killing Syrian, Palestinian and Lebanese peaceful protesters who were stressing their legal right of returning to their lands.

Al-Hamwi pointed out to the Israeli crime few weeks ago as the occupation authorities started to build a racial separation wall to separate the occupied Syrian Golan from the homeland, Syria.

He added that the Israeli authorities have arrested for 27 years 9 prisoners from the Golan and the international Red Cross knows that.

He went on saying that the Israeli crimes and aggressive policies led to escalating hatred and isolation of Israel by the vast majority of the world peoples, stressing that the Human Rights Council and the High Commission for Human Rights should end their silence on such practices.

“At UN, Syria warns of ‘blatant conspiracies’ from outsiders against its people”

What did I tell you. “Extremists conspiracies extremist extremists rape of girls conspiracies Al-jazeera built a mock up of cities in Qatar”

If the menhebaks are so sure of their narrative, why not let in the world’s press and let them see for themselves, instead of relating what one cookie cutter menhebak heard from his smelly drug addled shabiha scum cousin.

But of course Besho would never allow a free press to see what is going on in Syria. He might as well let in the four horsemen of the apocalypse; Famine, War, Pestilence and the extremist conspiracy salafi guy who built fake cities in Qatar.

Aboud, you are attacking that cute and cuddly Syrian Hamster in #335. You are losing it Aboud, take a break and have a shot of Frangelico.

Syria forces storm refuge for army defectors

Updated: 2011-09-28 09:28

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2011-09/28/content_13807596.htm

AMMAN – Syrian forces backed by tanks and helicopters stormed into the central town of Rastan on Tuesday to crush army deserters who are fighting back after months of mostly peaceful protests against President Bashar al-Assad, residents said.

Undeterred by the crackdown, more deserters declared the formation of another rebel military unit, of uncertain size, in the same area. And in a sign of increasingly heavily armed opposition to Assad, people in the nearby city of Homs said rebel soldiers hit a government tank with a rocket.

Early on Tuesday, dozens of armoured vehicles entered Rastan, a town of 40,000 on the Orontes river north of Homs, after tanks and helicopters pounded it with heavy machineguns through the hours of darkness.

“Tanks closed in on Rastan overnight and the sound of machineguns and explosions has been non-stop. They finally entered this morning,” said a resident named Abu Qassem.

Hundreds of soldiers who have refused orders to fire on protesters have formed the Khaled Bin al-Walid battalion, named after the Arab conqueror of Syria, in Rastan. The force, led by Captain Abdelrahman Sheikh, has some tanks. Colonel Riad al-Asaad, the most senior military defector, is active in the area.

In the area of Houla, across the Orontes, thousands of villagers held an anti-Assad rally on Tuesday during which a new battalion of defectors was announced. Several soldiers in fatigues were seen in a YouTube video as a crowd chanted “Freedom!” Houla residents said they had attended the event.

To cheers, an announcer was seen in the video saying: “The Syrian Free Army declares the formation of the Ali bin Abi Taleb Battalion in Houla, Homs, under the command of First Lieutenant Colonel Fayez al-Abdallah, to be supervised by the Khaled bin al-Walid battalion … to protect peaceful protests.”

Rebel forces

Rebel soldiers, who are estimated to number in the thousands across the country, have attacked army buses and roadblocks manned by troops and pro-Assad militiamen, known ‘shabbiha’. These have multiplied in recent days as security forces try to disrupt protests and hunt down activists in the Rastan area.

Activists in Homs said at least six inhabitants were killed in raids by security forces and rebel soldiers hit a tank on Tuesday with a rocket propelled grenade in the Bayada district, which is inhabited by members of desert tribes who are now among the main opponents of Assad in the city of one million.

The official news agency said “armed terrorist groups” killed three civilians in Homs on Tuesday.

The region around Homs and the adjoining province of Idlib on the border with Turkey have emerged as hotspots of armed resistance, although the bulk of the armed forces, commanded by officers from Assad’s Alawite minority, has remained nominally loyal, with tight surveillance by Alawite secret police and soldiers who disobey orders to crush protests risk being shot.

A senior diplomat in Damascus said rebel units were a mixed bag of deserters but that only the efforts of the Alawite officer corps were preventing much larger units joining them.

“The deserters so far are a hodgepodge,” the diplomat said. “They did not train together and whole divisions are not leaving because of the Alawite control.”

Julien Barnes-Dacey, Middle East analyst at Control Risks said unless more defections occur “the regime won’t face a meaningful military challenge.”

Arab Uprising Whirlwind Catches Lebanon

http://www.eurasiareview.com/28092011-arab-uprising-whirlwind-catches-lebanon-oped/

Lebanon has always been the epitome of freedom of speech in the Middle East. The press has a long history in the Lebanon and the variety of political and religious groups there have prevented its diverse community from ever falling under the domination of one of its internal powers.

It’s all too clear that such a community would never be affected by the same fate as the other Arab countries and there would never be any sign of a revolution there. Most of the revolutionary leaders which have come close to power in Arab countries have either spent some part of their lives in Lebanon or have briefly benefitted from the blessing of its freedom. Even though there is no real democracy in Lebanon and the Lebanese factions run the country in the form of a “consensus democracy,” its political situation has always been the envy of the oppressed people of other Arab countries.

Notwithstanding, Lebanon is not disconnected from the developments and revolutions of other Arab countries. The groups and parties of this country are categorized based on their support of or opposition to one or more of the Arab governments who are currently categorized as exposed to threat or at risk of collapse. While some of the political wings in Lebanon such as Saad Hariri, former prime minister and the leader of the March 14 alliance, are accused of shipping weapons to Syria to incite a civil war there, the president, parliament speaker and the prime minister of Lebanon support Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The support of the Lebanese leaders for Damascus appears natural on account of its special historical and geographical ties with Syria. The Lebanese elite are intensely afraid of the effects of the unseemly repercussions of a civil war in Syria or its disintegration on their own small country, especially that Israel is still lying in ambush for Lebanon and the unbalancing of the political map of the Middle East might tempt the appetite of its leaders for a fresh round of adventurism in Lebanon.

What has recently become the focus of attention in Lebanon is the stances and demeanor of Archbishop Bechara el-Rai, the new Maronite patriarch, who has faced opposition and criticism from the March 14 alliance, which is close to Western states. Their censure has escalated to such an extent that they have accosted the outgoing patriarch, Nasrallah Sfeir, and are seeking to place him head to head with his successor.

It’s still not clear why Nasrallah Sfeir stepped down, voluntarily or otherwise, from his religio-political position. Some believe that the Vatican has played a key role in this replacement. Developments in Arab countries and increase in the power of Islamist groups has concerned the Vatican that the Christians of the Middle East and especially Lebanon might be exposed to force and threat. Thus, a figure with no previous hostilities on his records must assume the leadership of the Maronite Christians to be able to guarantee the future for Christians.

The former Lebanese Maronite patriarch Nasrallah Sfeir was on the March 14 alliance’s side and not willing at all to build a normal relationship with its rival March 8 faction. He was oppose to the trial of Israeli mercenaries after they fled southern Lebanon in 2000 and insisted that light punitive sentences be issued against them. He never travelled to the liberated southern Lebanon to avoid being accused of supporting anti-Israeli resistance.

The new Patriarch has adopted a new policy in line with the recent developments in the Arab world, a policy which the previous patriarch was incapable of implementing due to his political background.

Patriarch Bechara el-Rai made a trip to France a few weeks ago to warn President Nicolas Sarkozy that his and other European leaders’ attempts to initiate transformations in Syria and change its regime would not benefit Lebanese Christians and the rise to power of the Muslim Brotherhood as well as Salafis in the country means wreaking havoc on Christian interests and setting them on fire.

He also supported the maintenance of Hezbollah’s military capabilities by pointing out that it is the Israeli occupation of Shebaa Farms south of Lebanon which makes Hezbollah retain its armed forces and that Israel’s withdrawal from these regions will resolve the problem.

Sources close to the Lebanese patriarch have spoken about his great astonishment after hearing the proposal made by the French president, who has asked el-Rai why all Lebanese Christians do not immigrate to Europe and the West to steer clear of the problems or dangers potentially caused by regime change in Syria.

Another significant measure taken by the Lebanese patriarch was his several-day trip to southern Lebanon to visit the liberated areas, which was warmly welcomed by the Hezbollah and Amal movements. During the journey, he addressed the residents and members of the resistance organization and praised their sacrifices in repelling Israeli forces. He also called for vigilance against threat that could split and disintegrate the region.

Such positions are not favorable to the March 14 alliance leaders and the Western governments sponsoring. These leaders have, as a counteraction, tried to use the previous Maronite patriarch in order to threaten Bechara el-Rai with removal from his position or pressuring him into continuing to follow the political line of his predecessor.

In addition to Paris, which resentfully tolerated the opposition of Lebanon’s Maronite leaders to regime change in Syria, Washington has informed el-Rai that he cannot meet President Barack Obama during his trip to the United States despite the previously drawn schedule and may meet only with the low-ranking American officials. And this is why the Maronite patriarch of Lebanon has cancelled his trip to the US.

Aboud Alwahabi
You keep calling every one who is against your terrorist gangs:Menhbak.You really have to look at this world with an open brain.let me give you an example :does every one who does not like Obama likes Binladen.your terrorist friends have hijacked this movement,you are mentally a hijacker because you have rarely spoken about subjects,all you talk about is using your language skills in immoral,low and impolite ways.you have been for thousands of times talking about (Besho)
,his sister and so forth…you and your Islamist terrorist friends are worst than Baathists,all you want is to be another Maliki or Chalabi or Tantawi..You claim to want good for Syria,yet any one who has any mental capacity can see that the path you are pointing to will have more Skulls than the ones we already have.Many Syrians(at least I hope)are smart enough to not let Syria go into that jumpy ride.
Next time you are of your computer sit outside and have a cup of tea and look at the world:is it all black or white…do you see green or orange or yellow…open your mind..the world in smart people mind is not :Menhbak or mabenhbak..it is like that in closed an stupid minds alone..I hope you stay away from those words because I hate to see you labeled like that.

“………….and he criticized moves by the United States and the European Union to impose sanctions, saying they would hurt the daily needs of ordinary Syrians…inst …”

It will just raise prices, create inflation and destitute the lower income class further. It will not bring them to the street against Assad, on the contrary, it will solidify the population behind him because Syrians are aware of what is really going on and are not fool like the virtual reality idiots and their backers. Don’t expect Syrians to contemplate trading living standard with Islamic horror or worse American one like that of Iraq. It aint going to happen.

There is a disconnect between the people of Syria and the outside, someone on the outside is misrepresenting the Syrian people aspiration and demand and using this to further own agenda by lying.

Russia will make a fatal mistake if it let up one iota on U.N. thugs and permit even passing of sanction threat resolution against Syria. If floored VETO is a Russian strategic must. An Islamic terrorist regime of sort in Syria is a serious strategic threat for Russia volatile Caucasus region. In less than 3 years Russia will be forced to intervene militarily to stop it and remove the Islamic Terrorists triggering a bigger International Conflict for Russia than this insignificant issue.

At any rate the plotter defeated fatally. There hardly exist any sign of opposition rising up in Syria and most activities are by Islamic Terrorist Gang of 4-6 cells only that are financed by foreigners wishing ill for Syria. This is now strictly a virtual revolution online with no ground support left. Assad wiped it out very effectively and efficiently, with a lot of tack and more butchery exposed by the terrorists anyway.

The vile language alone they used against Christians and Others is by itself a crime. Rather than continue in a failed miserably seditious conspiracy against the Syrian Nation, the dim witted losers needs to have some compassion (even if fake one) try to please President Assad and pay him and Syrians some reparation, say 20 billion or so in exchange for the release of the 16000 guppy Syrians that landed in his prisons based on the conspirators false promises and inapt plan.

The release of those prisoners should be priority one, not more sanctions. Whatever negotiation can be conducted with President Assad to release them in exchange for cash compensation and serious promises of non interference in Syrian affairs should be undertaken. That is what the handful so called Syrian oppositions should be pushing for now, they should have a bit of conscious for the trouble, sorrow and sadness, mothers grieve they caused by their greed and lust for power and money.

MANASEB that is all they are after. What a shame, awful people of exceptionally low moral quality. How could they even sleep, We at SNP are losing sleep over the suffering of these 16000 prisoners, knowing what condition and trauma they are facing daily. Doesn’t the United Nation wish to pass some resolution regarding them, make a deal. They are just forgotten, no one mentioning them at all.

Various relevant points about the Syrian economy that Ehsani didn’t mention can be taken from the data at the Syrian Central Bank at:
http://www.banquecentrale.gov.sy/reports/statistics.htm
http://www.banquecentrale.gov.sy/reports/financial-monetary-data-eg.htm
http://www.banquecentrale.gov.sy/reports/publications.htm
http://www.banquecentrale.gov.sy/reports/graphs/bop%20balances.jpg

Ehsani claims that Syria is under “pressure stemming from an imbalance in its foreign trade position”, but he doesn’t quote data to support it. The Syrian Central Bank data says he’s wrong:

(1) Throughout the decade 2000 – 2009 Syria had a positive balance of payments in foreign trade.
(2) Throughout the decade 2000 – 2009 both imports and exports grew at a fast growth rate, but imports grew at a faster rate. (Syria’s imports and exports per capita are still low in comparative international terms today).
(3) Syria had a negative balace of payments in year 2010 but the amount of the negativity was about the same as one year’s growth in either imports or exports. That is, it’s not a big amount.
Addendum: The surplus in balance of payments that Syria enjoyed longterm — for more than a decade — enabled the country’s Central Bank to accumulate foreign reserves.

In any economy, a large adverse shock event in one sector of the economy can cause the whole broad economy to go into a recession. When that happens, and the risks of inflation are low, the country’s Central Bank can print money and get the money injected into the whole economy through government spending. This money-created-by-fiat is financing actual economic activity, which directly and indirectly flows through to the whole private-sector economy, and offsets the contractionary effect of the adverse shock. In Syria’s case the collapse of the foreign tourist sector has stopped money from flowing to the people who work in and around the tourist sector, which stops their money in turn from flowing across the whole economy, which thereby has the power to induce contraction in nearly all sectors of the economy. It removes money from the whole economy. Ehsani reports that just yesterday the Syrian government announced that its expenditures in its 2012 budget are planned to be 59% greater than in 2011. Ehsani asks “How would the revenues be matched?” The better question is: Can the current condition of the Syrian economy absorb quantitive easing and “government borrowing” without getting inflationary? The lesson we’ve seen in the US and the UK in recent years is that, yes, in a recessionary climate the Central Bank really can print money without inducing inflation. And therefore should print money, since the society as a whole’ll be the richer for it. (If inflation raises its head then a real hard recession is called for and is meritorious to cure the currency of inflation.)

Ehsani says:

“The US$9.8 billion jump in government expenditures this year needs to be funded by increased tax collection in a business environment that will be extremely challenging. One of the examples of an obvious and gaping hole in the government’s ability to collect taxes comes from custom duties on imports. While the government imposes duties close to 50% on many products, the 2009 government revenue from this area indicates that the treasury was only able to collect US$ 0.56 billion or 4.3% of the total value of goods imported.”

The first of those three sentences is dead wrong: The regime won’t be so foolish as to seek to take away substantial money from the private sector and move that money into the government sector, because the government sector can “borrow” (i.e. print) money without inducing inflation in the current environment. I read the last two of the sentences as vague and muddled. I read them as aiming primarily to slur the regime and slur the Syrian Establishment, without aiming to genuinely explain anything.

Ehsani says, and he’s said this at least once before at SyriaComment,

“the Central Bank sits on a comfortable foreign exchange reserve position of nearly US$ 18 billion. In reality, this number is impossible to verify. The official government data and accounting is simply not transparent enough to confirm such claims.”

I trust the integrity of the Syrian Establishment. Ehsani apparently doesn’t. I trust that the head of the Central Bank and the other professionals who work for the Central Bank believe in The Theory of Reality. That is, I trust that they do not think that image & perception is more important than reality. They are not like the Syrian Dissidents. They do not make stuff up, I trust. I haven’t delved into the details of the official government accounts. I’m inclined to suppose that Ehsani is probably right that the accounts could benefit from being more detailed and more verifiable — transparency is a virtue. But Ehsani is almost surely mistaken and bigoted when he insinuates that the US$18 billion number could be untrue. Honest and intelligent and trained individuals in the regime are involved in monitoring that number down deep.

Miqati Says Lebanese Banks Respect International Will

28 September 2011, 10:06

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/16015-miqati-says-lebanese-banks-respect-international-will

Prime Minister Najib Miqati stressed on Tuesday that the cabinet is keen on protecting the Lebanese banking sector from any harm.

He said at a press conference in New York that “we’re following all the required measures… The Lebanese banks can’t carry out any action that might provoke the international community.”

The PM revealed that he will call for a meeting with Central Bank governor (Riyad Salameh) and the Association of Lebanese Banks to confirm this issue.

Miqati stressed that “Central Bank governor and Secretary of State (Hillary) Clinton said that there are no objections to (the operations of) any Lebanese bank.”

Asked about the reasons behind tackling this issue, he said “there are Lebanese banks that are active in Syria, and some fear that they might be used to transfer money and carry out transactions that might affect the decisions made on Syria.”

Miqati noted that there is no dispute over “deposits made by Syrian individuals in Lebanese banks… No one discussed this issue with us.”

“Whatever negotiation can be conducted with President Assad to release them in exchange for cash compensation and serious promises of non interference in Syrian affairs should be undertaken. ”

Sorry, maybe holding people for ransom worked well for your Lebanese Hizboll-shaytan, but we don’t negotiate with terrorists like that. If your X-Box president is so strapped for cash, let Athma sell some of her cloths.

Besho is going to the Hague. Nothing you can do can stop that. He doesn’t dare step a foot outside of Syria, and no matter how long he hides, he will be bought to justice for the thousands of lives he has taken. And you will be called as a witness, as you’ve admitted he illegally jailed 16,000 people. Good move that, thanks menhebak.

Thanks to LOUAI #322 concerning the bad situation currently in Homs city. Also GHUFRAN #218 is saying the same thing about Homs.
On the bright side, the security forces have had a good record in restoring order in all other cities that descended into anarchy. On the dark side, the security forces have gone into Homs several times now, and exited after apparently restoring order, and then disorder and anarchy returned again.

We’ve always maintained that the shabiha and security forces arrest people at random, to demand ransom from their families. One of the benefits of having the SNPer here is that he outright admitted it.

The people arrested by the security scum are not criminals. They have done nothing wrong. But despicable menhebaks see them as a way to make money. Don’t have oil, get into the ransom and kidnapping business.

http://youtu.be/z4OI0GUCI_A

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/media/anti-war-songs/790-lowkey-obama-nation-part-2

ABOUDIJAN – u need to relax and chill out. im afraid you are about to strap urself with some falafel rolls and baba ghanouj and blow urself up. I recommend u watch some syrian revolution comedy to make u smile 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apuVPg-AvWw

And after watching the last video u can watch these videos to make u calm down and finally figure out ur revolution is going nowhere but downhill 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL9wuQ7y7bs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbUDV3ULirc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8gJOjy7LJs

Did i just see u in the last video cheering for your president Dr Bashar Al Assad. Ah aboudijan that means ur a MENEHABAK now.

After your done calming down you can finally relax by watching these videos of how your Alkhanzera puppet was lost for questions when being given everything thrown out him by one of the most patriotic SYRIAN. Any by the way he is SUNNI like myself. Ummm maybe thats why the majority of sunnis in syria havent followed the violent murderous path of ur ancestors and relatives aboudijan

http://www.youtube.com/user/syriaoursoul3#p/u/2/U0VEVy7IKTo
http://www.youtube.com/user/syriaoursoul3#p/u/4/xFjoxU3HrFs

ABOUD – did you forgot to tell your mother that she isnt permitted to drive in Saudi Arabia. Maybe if she was driving in Syria under Dr Bashar Al Assad she would have been able to drive. Dont worry we will give her a permit to ride her camel in Homs

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/09/201192717284798867.html

256. sheila said:

I am not a fool.

The MB s are part of the Syrian society and they should be present at the table, however, Syria has many other participants that will weigh in too.

Every year I go to Syria and see the decline in everything.

Finally, I have no agendas or goals other than hoping for the best for my country.
“””””
REALITY
This a copy/paste of the tusual MB propaganda , denying the facts :
the 70’s and 80’s terrorist actions of the MB killing 1000s of innocent people like in Homs today ,
nobody ( except fools and MB ) in Syria wants the return of the MB to Syrian politics

It is so sad that people are not comfortable in their own skin. Kanj is not Sunni and John Khouri is not Christians. This is very obvious that one tends to skip their posts because it lacks credibility. Guys, nothing wrong of being Alawis. You can still defend the regime being Alawis. Claiming otherwise when it is so clear hurt your cause. I hope you realize that.

374. Ya Mara Ghalba said:
“””
Ehsani says, and he’s said this at least once before at SyriaComment,

“the Central Bank sits on a comfortable foreign exchange reserve position of nearly US$ 18 billion. In reality, this number is impossible to verify. The official government data and accounting is simply not transparent enough to confirm such claims.”

I trust the integrity of the Syrian Establishment. Ehsani apparently doesn’t. I trust that the head of the Central Bank and the other professionals who work for the Central Bank believe in The Theory of Reality. That is, I trust that they do not think that image & perception is more important than reality. They are not like the Syrian Dissidents. They do not make stuff up, I trust. I haven’t delved into the details of the official government accounts. I’m inclined to suppose that Ehsani is probably right that the accounts could benefit from being more detailed and more verifiable — transparency is a virtue. But Ehsani is almost surely mistaken and bigoted when he insinuates that the US$18 billion number could be untrue. Honest and intelligent and trained individuals in the regime are involved in monitoring that number down deep.

REALITY
Don’t be too harsh on poor Ehsani.
As an American banker , he is aware of cooking numbers by American accountants and auditors in an all American transparency :
ENRON , MADOFF , LEHMAN Bros , WORLDCOM , GRECE , etc

And you Tara are not female. So stop claiming you are, when it is so clear you are not, it will only hurt your cause. I hope you realize that.

What’s the weather like in Tel Aviv today?

I have tried to stay clear of attacking “PERSIANs” or “Iranian”. The reason being is that Like TARA and a few others who are also Citizens of the United States, we have come to know many Iranians rather well and form lasting friendships that allowed us to know more about their culture.

A while ago SS posted a note about Iranian women, and I do agree with much of it. The mullas, Baseij and other reactionaries are nothing but a mirror image (albeit much more civilized) than Syrian Shabeeha and thugs. But the People of Iran are as ambivalent about Shia and Sunni divisions and about the dead people from 1400 years ago as Me and I would probably be safe in saying Sheila, Ehsani, Jad, and a few others.

Today a group of Iranian Doctors confirmed my good faith in our neighbors and friends. Here is the story

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The names of the 200 doctors are available on All4syria website.

Syau

Hi. Ok. If you say so.

TARA – does it really hurt ur vicious mind so much that i am a sunni. And being sunni doesnt come on my skin as u said. I am born with it and proud of it. It really must burn you with a passion that we, the majority of sunni’s in syria have not supported your extremist idealogy, that you turn to deciding who is sunni,allawite or christian on this blog. So therefore due you conclude that the mufti of syria is not sunni also? Do you conclude that 70% of the syrian parliament is not sunni also, due to the fact that they dont support your extremist agenda? Do you say that the majority of sunnis in the millions upon millions who went out in support of the reforms and in support of the government 2 months ago in every city of syria, are not sunni also??? Why is it that you have been brainwashed. I bet that you went to a madrissi in pakistan or saudi arabia. Why does it hurt you that sunni’s like myself will not kneel to the west and the puppets of the arab countries who support israel and everything it stands for? Why does it hurt you so much that sunni’s like myself stand beside the only ARAB leader who has ever stood by the resistance( Hizbollah ), who the west and its puppets in the middle east have tried to wipe it out. Is the mufti of the sunni’s in lebanon not a sunni also, just because he went and met shiite leaders in the south? Such hatred and evil in you. Women like urself should live in saudi arabia,pakistan and afghanistan and than you will appreciate what freedom you have in syria.

Watch and learn from the MUFTI OF SYRIA and than you will come to understand why the majority of SUNNI’S in syria are too smart for the foreign media and the west.

As I said before, these youngsters will tip the balance away from the blind US support for the rogue state they are connected with or live in.

Annie,

That’s what they said about “Peace Now” 30 years ago. Israel has so many “pro-peace”, liberal organizations, I can’t count them on the two hands I have. Israelis got burned by Arafat and Oslo alomst 20 years ago, so I doubt these organizations will ever be able to recover. Moreover, they are still Zionist organizations that promote the State of Israel, so in that sense, they will always be illegitimate to those that are intolerant.

Syrians are much more tolerant of your posts however irritating they can sometimes be. Try and have a dissenting voice heard at some zionist sites.

Annie,

I TRY not to start discussions about Israel. I find that discussion of Israel creeps in despite my best effort to shut up. However, some people see a Jew behind everything that happens in the world. And the sad thing is there’s medication for this type of ailment;)

Like I’ve said many times before, I’m here to promote Syrian democracy. End of story. A free ME is a WIN/WIN for everyone.

Analysis: Iraqi Shi’ites fear fallout of Syria turbulence
Reuters By Rania El Gamal | Reuters –

BAGHDAD (Reuters) – Iraqi Shi’ites, like their allies in Iran, fret that unrest in Syria could oust President Bashar al-Assad and bring to power hardline Sunnis eager to put their weight behind fellow-Sunnis in Iraq who have lost out since Saddam Hussein’s fall.

They fear the turmoil next door could spill into Iraq, reignite sectarian violence and intensify a proxy battle between Iran and Saudi Arabia, which sees itself as the bastion of Sunni Islam and has never come to terms with Shi’ite rule in Baghdad.

“If Syria falls, Iraq will work with Iran to influence events in Syria,” said a senior Iraqi Shi’ite politician, who asked not to be named.

“Change in Syria will cause major problems for Iraq. They (Sunnis) will incite the western (Sunni) part of Iraq.” {..}

http://news.yahoo.com/analysis-iraqi-shiites-fear-fallout-syria-turbulence-085508798.html

376. Aboud said:
“”””
Besho …. , he will be bought to justice
“”””
REALITY

bought :
Please stop buying people like the HOMSI garbage man for 4000 SP ; at least until you bring home your Ph.D in Indian English literature from a 3rd rate university.

Sorry , I can’t resist , it is too easy to be mean sometimes.

.389 AKBAR
happy to hear you say I’m here to promote Syrian democracy. End of story.

How is a zionist American going to do anything about that ?

I choked on reading Habby Newyear; utter disrespect for the beautiful language. The tongue of the ? . May be they don’t pronounce “p” but neither can you say ??d.

Agree with you about “they are still Zionist organizations”
and as such I am intolerant of them. Only solution is One country for all with equal rights for all and end of zionism.

And please, don’t equate Zionist with Jew

“Tara” said
“You can still defend the regime being Alawis”

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! That’s what we need! permission from a fake Syrian to support the government…because we were too scared to do that before. “Tara” you should seriously consider dying your hair black. It MIGHT do you some good.

AL Arabia reported the killing of a nuclear scientist in Homs this morning,

I wonder if this the start of killing the educated people in Syria as it was the case in Iraq.

Obama reaching out to Muslim Brotherhood
in Syria; Pro-West opposition protests
September 26, 2011

WASHINGTON — The administration of President Barack Obama has been quietly consulting with the Islamic opposition in Syria.

Senior U.S. officials have been meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood as well as its lobbyists in the United States. They said the two sides have convened several times over the last three months to discuss the Brotherhood’s role after the ouster of President Bashar Assad.

“We ask the U.S. and international community to put an end to bloodshed and send Bashar Assad to the International Criminal Court,” Susan Misto, a board member of the Syrian American Council, said.
The Reform Party in Syria has protested the administration’s meetings with the Brotherhood. RPS, regarded as one of the most pro-Western elements in the Syrian opposition, said Washington was signaling its endorsement of the Brotherhood’s goal to make Syria into an Islamic state rather than a democracy that would foster its large minority community of Alawites, Christians and Kurds.

“This ill-advised policy of the U.S. State Department will have dire consequences, not only for the future of Syria, but also through an immediate increase in violence and the strengthening of the Assad base,” RPS said on Sept. 23.

On Sept. 24, the council, regarded as a lobbyist for the Brotherhood, held a meeting in Anaheim, Calif. to discuss a post-Assad Syria. The session was addressed by U.S. special envoy Frederic Hof, responsible for U.S. policy on Damascus.

“As Syrian-Americans we stand in solidarity with the peaceful protestors in Syria who are giving their lives daily in the pursuit of freedom and liberty,” Ms. Misto said.

This marked at least the second session between the State Department and the Brotherhood in as many months. The first meeting was headed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and excluded members of the secular Syrian opposition.

Hof was said to have met Najib Ghadban, a member of the Syrian National Council and a political science professor at the University of Arkansas. The meeting was endorsed by the Brotherhood-aligned Council on American-Islamic Relations.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2011/me_syria1203_09_26.asp

@ areal said: and 374. Ya Mara Ghalba

Guys, you sound so ridiculous and gullible that I don’t even know where to begin.

“I trust the integrity of the Syrian establishment”. Why? They have only just recently admitted that figures for GDP growth have been made up (although no one believed them in the first place). Why would you continue to trust them?

“. I trust that the head of the Central Bank and the other professionals who work for the Central Bank believe in The Theory of Reality”

“The Theory of Reality”. I don’t think you realise how stupid you sound when you capitalise those words. You’re not alone though; there are plenty of other idiots on this forum who do similarly inane things.

“They are not like the Syrian Dissidents. They do not make stuff up” – see the first comment that I made.

“. But Ehsani is almost surely mistaken and bigoted when he insinuates that the US$18 billion number could be untrue.” Mistaken maybe, but bigoted?

It’s true, there have been many tales of greed and corruption in recent American history. However, the difference is that in the States you hear about these scandals and the perpetrators are punished. If the scandal involves a politician they will inevitably be voted out of power if they aren’t put in prison first, and that by the way extends to the President.

I’m going to make this really simple. Right now we are unable to vote for the President of Syria.
Were there free and fair elections there would undoubtedly be people such as yourself who would vote for Assad – I don’t deny that. You believe that he is a reformer and you think Syria is a better country for having him as President. Fine. However, there are a whole body of people who think the opposite. We think that he has not only failed to reform the economy, but that he has also been complicit in the spread of corruption. There’s more but I’ll spare you.

In the same way that you hold your view with conviction, we also hold ours. You believe that you are right, but so do we. The problem is that in Syria there is no political process through which to reconcile these competing visions. You guys have your man in power and you will do whatever it takes to keep him there. You are forcing your will upon us. This has been tolerated for a long time, but patience ran out 6 months ago. Given that there is no credible political process in which to make known our views the result will be civil war. In the same way that his militia target protestors, Assad himself has now become a legitimate target.

People have been arming themselves for a long time. Both sides know what is coming. We are heading for all out war in which everybody becomes a combatant. Get your tin hats on now guys. Man the best man win.

Hey menhebaks, weren’t any of you invited to the Athadian wedding in Spain? I hear two Athad cousins are getting married. Yuuuuuuch, my God, Qurdaha is the red neck town of the Middle East. How long will it take you people to get into the 21st century.

All I can say, good thing Besho doesn’t have a daughter, he’d be marrying her off to one of his sons. Disgusting.

“Please stop buying people like the HOMSI garbage man for 4000 SP ”

No way dude, we don’t have enough money left over to buy Homsi garbage men for 4000 liras, not after we finished building mock cities in Qatar and importing crazy pills LOL!

And from the look of things, you people don’t have enough money left to pay your garbage men in Qurdaha. Why not kidnap a few people and hold them for ransom? No worries, maybe we will help you with the payroll after we shove a bus load of shabihas off the roads in Marmarita 🙂

Only solution is One country for all with equal rights for all and end of zionism.

Annie,

Your “only solution” is just your inability to think beyond your anti-zionism. A two-state solution is what the PA, the State of Israel, and the international community are seeking. You may not want a two state solution, but you’re just one lone observer.

Obviously me being an American Jew can’t help Syria very much, and equally, you don’t seem capable of helping the Arab-Israeli conflict.

And please, don’t equate Zionist with Jew

Why not? It’s done here all the time, and the vast majority of Jews are pro-Israel.

Annie,

You have the right to hate Israel. And by doing so, you (IMHO) hate Jews. I would say the same to a Jewish anti-Zionist.

“I bet that you went to a madrissi in pakistan or saudi arabia”

Said the Persian who so wants to be a Sunni so badly he fantasies about it online. And it’s madrassa. Once more the Persians show their own ignorance of both Arabic and English.

So, for our next conspiracy, we will kidnap the Iranian president and inflict a horrible punishment on him…we will forcibly shave him. Muwahaahhahahah! What a scruffy little midget.

(heheheh, menhebaks will remember me and my insults looooong after this website is gone)

“I wonder if this the start of killing the educated people in Syria as it was the case in Iraq.”

*facepalm* Not the infamous “Bandar Plan Conspiracy” again. Dude, for someone who claims to be a doctor, your analytical and critical thinking capabilities stink. Maybe you didn’t go to the right “madrissi”? Hehehehe

REALITY
Colonel, Charge d’Affaires at al-Baath University and 2 Citizens Killed by Armed Groups in Homs and Hama

Sep 28, 2011

HOMS/HAMA/DAMASCUS COUNTRYSIDE, (SANA) – Engineer Aws Abdel Karim Khalil, a nuclear engineering specialist and charge d’affaires at al-Baath University was martyred on Wednesday by the fire of an armed terrorist group in Homs governorate.

A source in the governorate told SANA correspondent that the martyr was targeted near Jisr Bab Amr and shot in the head, which caused his immediate death.

The authorities found the body of Citizen Abdel Rahman al-Maghrebi with a gunshot wound in the head thrown near al-Patraa Pharmacy in al-Baiyadeh neighborhood in Homs.

Citizen Abdel Rahman al-Mbaiyed from Bab Hood was transported to the hospital after he was shot dead in al-Adawiyeh neighborhood.

Law Enforcement Colonel Martyred in Hama

Law enforcement Colonel, Tayssir al-Oqla, was martyred on Tuesday after being shot by an armed terrorist group at al- Ta’awuniya Neighborhood in Hama.

An official source in Hama told SANA Correspondent that al-Oqla was performing his duty in preserving the security of the aforementioned neighborhood with a group of his colleagues when an armed terrorist group opened fire on them using machine guns.

Col. al-Oqla was shot in his head, and he was transferred to al-Hourani Hospital in Hama where he died affected by his injuries.

Forensic Doctor at Hama National Hospital, Mohsen al-Zubaidi, said “The body of martyr al-Oqla was transferred to the Hospital where the examination of the body showed that the death resulted from a brain hemorrhage and skull fracture resulted from a gunshot.

Large Amounts of Weapons and Explosive Devices Seized in Damascus Countryside

The authorities in Damascus Countryside seized amounts of weapons and explosive devices in Kanaker village.

The seized weapons included improvised high explosive devices, ammunition, chemical raw materials for making explosives, in addition to a large number of Molotov cocktails, catapults, computers and loudspeakers.
http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2011/09/28/372103.htm

MY LITTLE NOTE
Sometimes , I doubt that the SANA Arabic to English translation is dead correct.
REWARD
1000 SP for the first one who understands my little note.

“Col. al-Oqla was shot in his head”

Good, maybe that will ease the pressure on your payrolls, and you can import a car or two.

393. norman said:

AL Arabia reported the killing of a nuclear scientist in Homs this morning,

I wonder if this the start of killing the educated people in Syria as it was the case in Iraq.

REALITY
It was the case in the 70’s and 80’s when the terrorist MB murdered educated people in Syria.

397. AKBAR

ending this discussion
“You have the right to hate Israel. And by doing so, you (IMHO) hate Jews. I would say the same to a Jewish anti-Zionist“.
See ? Poor Jews, they HAVE to be pro-Israeli; no freedom of choice here.
I deeply dislike Israel and I wish it had never existed but I have no hate.

I love how Assad supporters waste time trying to prove that the government’s financial and economic data is reliable, when even the vice president says it’s manipulated. But then again, it’s only a matter of time until Sharaa meets the fate of Khaddam and is lumped in the conspiracy, despite decades of service to the criminal gang…

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http://syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=134892

As for Enron, Madoff, etc., there is no doubt that there are bad actors in every country. The difference is that sometimes powerful people in the West face justice, while criminals like Khaddam and Rifaat Al Assad are allowed to get away with their billions and live a life of luxury in exile. Bashar had a decade to issue an Interpol arrest warrant to bring his uncle and former VP to justice rather than let them organize the armed, extremist, fake democratic movement against the utopian Assad regime.

I hope the next Syrian government will not make that mistake, and will hunt down Bashar, Maher, Rami and their fellow mobsters.

Deeply Disliking Annie

See ? Poor Jews, they HAVE to be pro-Israeli; no freedom of choice here.

Annie,

Wrong again. Jews don’t HAVE to be pro-Israeli; most Jews don’t have any strong opinion one way or the other. But most are tolerant of Israel and don’t get stomach aches when discussing Israel like anti-Zionists do. So yes, IMHO, a Jew that is anti-Zionist is anti-semitic. Not recognizing the right of Jews to govern themselves is anti-semitic. Anyway, in this case, it is a small number of people/Jews.

I deeply dislike Israel and I wish it had never existed but I have no hate.

Annie,

“Deeply disliking” something and wishing it “never existed” seems like splitting hairs to me when comparing to “hate”.

Hating anything takes time and energy, and it seems to me that too much effort is expended in the ME hating Israel rather than fixing problems at home.

Just for comparison, the vast majority of Israelis do not hate Palestinians and recognize their need to self-determination and eventually statehood. In this sense, Israelis are smart, because it takes too much energy to hate anyone. People have lives and businesses to attend to and hate can get in the way.

Everyone has “freedom of choice” except those in the ME living under Arab despots.

I deeply dislike Israel and I wish it had never existed but I have no hate.

To dear #307. Darryl,
You are right and on the money. I appreciate that you are looking at this issue as objectively as you can. It has become a custom to attack Islam for the sins of Muslims. Only people with intellectual depth can see very clearly the separation between the two. Religion is a reflection of the people who adhere to it at any specific point in time. People look back at the time of jizya and complain that it was unfair. They forget that this was the 7th century. The Islamic model was the best in the context of the era. Historically speaking, Islam had to be the best model. It took advantage of Judaism and Christianity and created a better model. The benefit of being the newest and latest. However, today we are in a different era. Things have changed (hopefully for the better). We can not take a model that worked in the 7th century very well, and use it verbatim today.
Looking at the Arab countries’ current situation, we get really angry at our state of affairs, but we tend to forget that we only became countries few decades ago. Some Arab countries gained their independence as late as the seventies. This is really nothing in the grand scheme of things.
You said: “, the majority of Muslims have never read the Qur’an and rely on the Sheikhs“. I would like to add that a few Sheikhs have never read all the Quran and a few could not understand it even if they did. Remember that it was only through a presidential decree by Alshishakli that it became a requirement to be appointed as a Sheikh, to have graduated from elementary school. Many Sheikhs in Syria before this decree were illiterate. My question is: what do you expect from these people?. Their goal is to keep their subjects even more ignorant so that they can control them.
Most Muslims today are uneducated, uncultured and uncivilized. Unfortunately, this holds true to all other religious groups living in those countries. I find Christian Syrians to be suffering from the same ailments. After all, it is not the religion that is at fault, it is those who interpret the religion with very limited tools of thought. (I am talking here about the masses. Of course both Muslim and Christian Syrians have intellectual elite).

395. DIGGING FOR GOLD IN BOSRA said:

@ areal said: and 374. Ya Mara Ghalba

Guys, you sound so ridiculous and gullible that I don’t even know where to begin.

“I trust the integrity of the Syrian establishment”. Why? They have only just recently admitted that figures for GDP growth have been made up (although no one believed them in the first place). Why would you continue to trust them?

REALITY

The Syrian central bank is an establishment with accountants with the normally simple task to count US dollars banknotes and weight gold .

The Syrian government has to rely on the collection of ” reliable” economic data from the economic actors ( like production from the private companies ) by economists to compute a figure for the GDP:
a messy job prone to many errors even in the USA where economic monthly figures are usually corrected the next month.

May I hope you will be able to acknowledge the difference.

Annie,

I’m (Amir) a young Jew, and I get to decide what that means. I respect others to do the same, including the “Young Jewish and Proud”. I’m proud of them, because they wish for something better (in their eyes).

About what you said on Mizrahi Jews being nicer to Arabs. The opposite is true. The Israeli ‘Peace Now’ movement, is almost entirely white urban and Ashkenazi (European Jews). This is because Jews who came from Arabia, know what is Jewish life like, under Arab rule.

Did you know that during the times of the Ottomans, Jews had to wear pink colored cloths, to identify them? Read the Turkish Nobel prize laureate Orhan Pamuk’s ‘My Name is Red”. I’m reading it now.
.

is burning schools (Idleb) and assassinating doctors and teachers (Homs and Hama) part of the revolution to topple the regime?
I used to listen to skeptics who say that the Shabeehas are responsible for every criminal act since March but not anymore, it is easy now to see why Syria is in such a mess,too many idiots with guns,some are hired or supported by the government and some are not.Too many idiots who never finished high school but can still finish the life of a doctor or a scientist. When they can not hit a soldier or a security officer,they will hit civilians who are labeled as collaborators.
We as Syrians must answer a bigger question,not just what type of a regime we want,that question is: do we deserve to live as one nation in one country,or is it a war that will spare nobody and send the best of us outside the country or to the morgue?

“The Syrian central bank is an establishment with accountants with the normally simple task to count US dollars banknotes and weight gold . ”

Yeah, and your VP admitted that economic statistics were faked. Try to *weigh* that and take it into consideration. There is a difference between a small margin of error and outright fraud. And do your Baathist peasants correct their statistics on a monthly basis? Hehe, more like once in a blue moon.

Athadstan, the only place in the world where the government admits it lied, and still the menhebaks plead and beg with us to believe them.

Funny thought occurred to me. The Persians here hate the Sunnis so much, and yet look how full of Iranians Qatar and the UAE are. Those countries provide a standard of living to the Iranians, and an investment climate, that they could not possibly dream of back in Iran. Iranian prostitutes also find an easier time of making a living in Dubai, catering to Gulf clients. The Ayatollahs really should loosen up, stop banning everything, and maybe some of the money would stay in Tehran and help with the high unemployment problem.

But at least some Persians have found gainful employment prostituting what feeble media skills they have in the service of Besho. Make sure he pays you by cash though, I hear his banks can’t honor any cheques 🙂

Aboud
“Athadstan, the only place in the world where the government admits it lied”
you probably missed the one where Berlusconi told the Italian police that a prostitute he used to have sex with and who was in custody was actually Mubarak granddaughter and that they should release her to avoid a diplomatic crisis.

Sorry you have never read the news before last March!! The ONLY governemnt that admits it lied…. ah ah ah! Best joke of the day.

Phillip Salem is an oncologist. He works in Huston, TX.

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Dear #405. Akbar Palace,
You said: “Not recognizing the right of Jews to govern themselves is anti-semitic”. I would like to say that we Arabs have a problem with the term anti-Semitic, when we ourselves are Semites. The second problem that we have with your statement is that we Arabs recognize the right of Jews to govern themselves and have no problem with that, however, we do have a problem with the right of the Jews in somebody else’s land. I know that you can come up with a million excuses to why Palestine is rightfully yours: from God gave it to us to we bought it. The truth really is that Zionists, who strangely enough are secular, decided to create a country on top of other people, the Palestinians. There is no denying that the Palestinians were robed their land and this is where we have a problem.
I have to tell you that you are right. Israel is an advanced nation. The Jews have accomplished a lot that the Arabs have failed to even get close to. That even living under a “Jewish state” is much better for many Arabs than living under the dictatorships that the Arabs suffer from. That there were many atrocities committed by both sides. This still does not change the core of the problem.
Toady, we have Israelis that were born in Israel that did not really have a choice in what happened. They are in a position to have the moral courage to admit that nobody has a divine or not so divine right in anybody else’s land, apologize for the injustice that was perpetrated on the Palestinian people and live in peace with their neighbors. As long as Israelis contend that they had the right to Palestine, there will never be true reconciliation with the Palestinians and the Arabs.
I want to remind you that the Muslims, Christians and Jews lived in the Middle east in peace for many centuries before the creation of Israel. It could happen again. Israel can have a tremendous positive impact on the region if the Israelis can only bring themselves to admit and apologize for what they did. This does not remove Israel from the map, but rather gives it a moral standing

Ya Mara Ghalba (#374):

First, thank you for taking the time to read my note in detail. Writing such articles takes a long time and it’s great to see that people take their time to read them in the detail that you clearly have done.

You did not need to refer to me as “bigoted”. I personally prefer that we stick to the issues. Areal in #384 tries his best to jump on that same bandwagon by questioning the integrity of my profession. Again, I will refrain from entering into low quality personal attacks and exchanges. Instead, I will focus on the issues that you raised:

It is good that you admit that you “have not delved into the details of the official government accounts”. Perhaps you should.

Let us talk about the all-important issue of the reserves. I have tried my best to go through the Central Bank balance sheet to add the foreign exchange reserves. I was not able to come up with $ 18 billion. I was only able to add up much less. My suspicion is that the $18 billion are not all in foreign currencies or gold. The government may include in the reserves number SYP assets with the Commercial Bank of Syria. To me, foreign reserves are none SYP assets. If I am wrong, please write to the Central Bank and let me know how I can arrive at the $ 18 Billion.

You have linked data from the Central Bank. Why don’t you add up the imports or look at the main indicators on the website? Imports are supposedly $13 billion. However, just yesterday the head of the Central bank claimed that the new ban will cover 25% of all imports and will save the government $6 billion.

http://www.syria-news.com/readnews.php?sy_seq=137832

But, how can the 25% saving of $6 billion be part of total imports of $13 billion (website figure)? Does this imply that imports are actually $24 billion? Indeed, in the same article he also claims that car imports are valued at $4.5 billion. But, industry sources confirm to me that Syria imports a maximum of 80,000 cars a year. This means that the value of each imported car into Syria is $56,250. This is substantially higher than the figure of the industry sources who claim that the average is close to $15,000. Local bankers confirm that the car imports value is closer to $1.5 billion than the $4.5 billion cited by the Governor.

You suggest that the Central Bank should print money by doing quantitative easing. First, there is no government bond market in Syria that the Central Bank can buy. Quantitative easing works after the Central Bank cuts its main policy rate to near zero first. When that does not generate enough borrowing and investments by the private sector, it can resort to the so-called quantitative easing which effectively expands bank reserves in the system even after short term rates reach the zero-bound. Do you know where short term rates are in Syria? They are near 9% and were “raised” which is tightening of monetary conditions in order to support the SYP. What your entire critique missed is the interaction between interest rate policy and the foreign exchange peg. In order to hold the SYP at 47, the Central Bank is forced to pay 9% on SYP deposits to entire depositors to keep their money in SYP accounts at the local banks. What you totally miss also is the level of interest rates that the Syrian government will have to pay to borrowers to execute what you suggest. The only level that they wanted to pay the last time they tried was 1-2%. At that rate, no private bank participated in a single bond auction. That experiment of starting a local bond market has been shelved since. The level of interest rate that private lenders were willing to accept to lend to the Syrian government was way too high for the government to accept. If inflation as you say is not a problem, the SYP 47 peg should be gone as I suggest. This will enable the Central Bank to lower rates and entice private borrowing which took place only at double digit rates. I say “took” because no local bank is lending money right now.

Bank Mizrakhi vs Bank Hapoalim

The Israeli ‘Peace Now’ movement, is almost entirely white urban and Ashkenazi (European Jews).

Amir in Tel-Aviv,

When I lived in Israel, we used to call them “Tzfonim”. They were the only ones who read “Haaretz”.;)

Abboud

#401. Aboud said:

“Col. al-Oqla was shot in his head”

Good, maybe that will ease the pressure on your payrolls, and you can import a car or two.#

Are you sick in the head or mentally retarded? You should be ashamed of yourself to write such stupidity and please, your english is lousy, so stop teaching the SC commenters how to write.
Your usage of ‘oooo’ and ‘dude’ show that you at most 12 years old or your brain has been seriously damaged.

You are rendering a famous service to the regime by your childishness, the stupidity of your comments and your pretention.

Continue, it is very helpful to have guys like you in the opposition.

Ehsani #413

Wow, so that’s what an intelligent and articulate reply to obvious menhebak nonsense looks like.

*we are not worthy! we are not worth!*

“where Berlusconi told the Italian police that a prostitute he used to have sex”

*faceplams so hard his hand hurts*

Dude, are you seriously comparing the sexual escapades of the Italian prime minister, with the wholesale forging and fabrication of vital economic statistics? Heck, how do we know your VP’s new figures make any more sense than the forged ones?

You don’t know, and you can’t possibly know. Civilized countries have freedom of information acts, their figures and conclusions are transparent. When someone tries to pull off an obvious lie like the Nigerian Yellow Cake Iraq WMDs etc etc, it eventually comes out due to checks and balances.

The only checks and balances you people know are the checks you write the shabiha drug addled scum after they have balanced killing 20 people from Hama with 10 people from Damascus and 10 from Aleppo.

“Best joke of the day.”

Hehe, here’s a joke for you; Besho is so stupid that to raise money, he’ll sell his car to pay for gas. Muwahahahahaha 🙂

@ AREAL

You’re right, figures in the US are corrected from month to month, but never by 300 basis points as was the case in Syria. To anybody with any knowledge and understanding of these issues that is a shocking error to make – although I don’t believe it was a simple miscalculation.

You have way too much faith in the independence of the central bank. As with any institution in Syria its aims are subordinate to the security of the Assad regime. We aren’t talking about the Fed or the ECB here.

Also, you make the task faced by the Syrian Central Bank sound like it’s a case of adding up the numbers on your grocery receipt. It’s a tad more involved than that.

I would like to say that we Arabs have a problem with the term anti-Semitic, when we ourselves are Semites.

It’s english. Build a bridge…

The second problem that we have with your statement is that we Arabs recognize the right of Jews to govern themselves and have no problem with that, however, we do have a problem with the right of the Jews in somebody else’s land.

Build another bridge (#2). Israel is a UN member state recognized everywhere except in the minds of Athad, Nejad, and Nasrallah (The 3 Stooges).

I know that you can come up with a million excuses to why Palestine is rightfully yours: from God gave it to us to we bought it.

Annie,

Israel is not mine. It a state of 6 million Israelis where 75% are Jewish and 25% are not. Palestine is home to some 3 million Arabs with a border and status yet to be determined. No excuses necessary.

The truth really is that Zionists, who strangely enough are secular, decided to create a country on top of other people, the Palestinians.

Jews legally immigrated to Palestine and legally bought land and settled. Build a third bridge.

There is no denying that the Palestinians were robed their land and this is where we have a problem.

No, the problem is the Arab rejected partition and lost a war they started. Build a fourth bridge.

Thank you, however, for acknowledging the accomplishments of Israel and the Jewish people. Don’t you think it is time for Arabs to follow suit?

This still does not change the core of the problem.

The core of the problem is all these “bridges” the Arabs have to build. Interestingly, these bridges are not tangible but only concepts. Very little effort is needed except to change how one thinks.

Toady, we have Israelis that were born in Israel that did not really have a choice in what happened.

Profound comment Annie!

They are in a position to have the moral courage to admit that nobody has a divine or not so divine right in anybody else’s land, apologize for the injustice that was perpetrated on the Palestinian people and live in peace with their neighbors.

Lose the word “divine”. This smacks as some sort of jealousy. People have migrated all over the world. Indians passed through North America to South America. Muslim passed through North Africa to Spain and through South East Asia. Magyars passed through Turkey, Hungary, and Finland.

For many solid reasons, Jews moved into Palestine. Some were already there.

As long as Israelis contend that they had the right to Palestine, there will never be true reconciliation with the Palestinians and the Arabs.

Bridge Number 5. Israel is Real;) Make peace with it. It isn’t going anywhere, and only her border will be adjusted when and if negotiations with the Palestinians resume.

I want to remind you that the Muslims, Christians and Jews lived in the Middle east in peace for many centuries before the creation of Israel.

See Amir’s post above. This is good information. Thanks.

It could happen again. Israel can have a tremendous positive impact on the region if the Israelis can only bring themselves to admit and apologize for what they did.

If an apology is needed, I am sure this could be worked out as part of the negotiations. Minor issue.

This does not remove Israel from the map, but rather gives it a moral standing.

Thank you for your interest in the morality of Israelis. Are you going to discuss the morality of Arabs and Muslims too?

REMINDER: DON’T FORGET YOUR 16,000 PRISONERS. HAVE MERCY ON THEM. I KNOW IT IS HARD FOR MOSLEM TO DO SO, THAT IS CONTRARY TO ISLAM AND MOHAMMAD THE MESSENGER OF SIN, THE ALIEN REPTILIAN MOON GOD NATURE AS WELL. BUT PLEASE DO SOMETHING TO RELEASE THEM. MAKE A BARGAIN. DON’T REPEAT 80’S LIVING IN ANAHEIM AND VERMONT AND LEAVING BEHIND THOUSANDS TO ROT TILL DEATH IN BAATHIST CONGLOMORATE PRISONS.

Akbar,

It’s actually closer to 8 millions. It’s 7,797,000 Israelis.
http://www.glz.co.il/PrintNewsArticle.aspx?newsid=90912
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Ehsani, you are wasting your time attempting to educate him/her.

If they think Syria has no inflation problem now, just let them wait a few months. Let’s see how willing the central bank is to defend this peg. The venerable Bank of England faced a similar economic issue with the ERM in the early 90s, interest rates jumped to 12% in an attempt to defend that peg. It didn’t work.

Syria may well have a lot of foreign reserves stashed away in order to defend this peg, but the market is far bigger than any one bank’s reserves, especially the Syrian central bank. My guess is that in the next few months the SYP will start trading at ever higher numbers on the black market (which is the real market by the way), the central bank will then be faced with the prospect of having to sell its hard currency to defend the peg. I don’t think they’ll do this. Overnight local people will find themselves unable to afford even the most basic foodstuffs. They certainly won’t be travelling to Turkey or Lebanon. Prices will then sky rocket internally.

As Ehsani pointed out, Syria lacks the normal monetary transmission mechanism that serves other countries well. There is no mortgage market and few people have any form of credit, so there is a complete disconnect between the average person and interest rates. I’m not even going to discuss bond auctions, bid to cover ratios and the Syrian yield curve –although thinking about it, if it had one it would probably look V-shaped.

Why the number of protests is dwelling

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/arrests-and-death-threats-silence-syrian-activists-2011-09-27

When Syrian security forces came looking for Muhammad Al Hamwi on 23 September, they made a threat calculated to strike fear into any Syrian parent’s heart.

The man in charge told Muhammad’s parents: “I will crush the throat of your son with my foot. I will return him to you like Ghayath Mattar.”

These terrorists are lying that is for sure. The mukhabarat don’t talk like that. (sarcasm)

Let’s Get Nack to SYRIA Comment

Amir in Tel Aviv,

Right, thanks. No wonder why housing is so expensive!

CIA World Factbook says:

7,473,052 (July 2010 est.)

PS – Since it is Rosh Hashanna, could you please apologize to Annie for the creation of your illegal state that she “deeply dislikes”? It would help the Peace Process.

#419 AND SNPER MUST USE CAPS BECAUSE HE CAN’T HEAR HIS OWN THOUGHTS FROM THE ACID TRIP HIS BRAIN HAS BEEN ON SINCE YESTERDAY!!!!!! HE ALSO CAN’T SPELL CONGLOMERATE! HE NEEDS TO GO TO A GOOD “MADRISSI”!

Hehehehe 🙂

Digging

“Also, you make the task faced by the Syrian Central Bank sound like it’s a case of adding up the numbers on your grocery receipt. It’s a tad more involved than that.”

But maybe that’s how they approach such complex economic matters. They are after all simple Qurdahan peasants. They can’t be expected to have much sophistication in these matters.

Nuclear engineer assassinated in central Syria – 4 hours ago

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jnOHsAhVxsnDJ9jEIZD61VPys3nw?docId=ec1618918d8744d5aa3c247c0ba32580

BEIRUT (AP) — A Syrian nuclear engineer was assassinated in a hail of bullets in central Syria Wednesday, the latest casualty in a string of murders this week of academics and scientists, Syria’s state-run news agency and activists said.

SANA said engineer and university professor Aws Khalil was shot in the head by an “armed terrorist group” operating in Homs, but activists accused the regime of going after academics in an attempt to terrorize the city’s rebellious population.

His killing came as fighting raged in the nearby town of Rastan for the second day between troops trying to enter the town and army deserters who have switched sides and joined the mass revolt against President Bashar Assad that began in mid-March.

Activists say there are hundreds of soldiers who have defected in Rastan and other areas on the outskirts of Homs. The Local Coordination Committees activist group and London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said a defected lieutenant died in Wednesday’s clashes.

Khalil is the fourth Syrian academic to be assassinated in Homs since Sunday. The city, a hotbed of dissent against Assad’s autocratic regime, has witnessed some of the largest anti-government protests since the uprising against Syrian President Bashar Assad began six months ago.

In the past month, it has witnessed almost daily clashes between Syrian troops and army defectors. There also have been increasing reports of attacks on security forces and police patrols by some who have taken up arms to fight the military crackdown.

Mohammed Saleh, an opposition figure in Homs, said Khalil’s assassination Wednesday is part of a string of killings — all in the same manner — of Syrian academics. They include Hassan Eid, chief of chest surgery at the Homs hospital who had treated wounded Syrian protesters in the past months.

Also shot dead were professors Nael Dakhil, 54, and Mohammed Aqeel, 49, who was assassinated by bullets that struck his car in the Ghouta neighborhood of Homs.

The dead men came from different religious backgrounds — Shiite, Alawite and Christian — and it unclear whether the killings had any sectarian motives. None of those killed were Sunni, Saleh said.

The killings are reminiscent of assassinations in Iraq following the 2003 U.S. invasion of that toppled Saddam Hussein’s regime, when the country was hit by a wave of assassinations that claimed the lives of scores of physicians, professors and nuclear experts in what led to a brain drain from the country.

Syria, like Iraq, has a volatile sectarian divide, making civil unrest a frightening prospect. The Assad regime is dominated by the Alawite minority, an offshoot of Shiite Islam, but the country is overwhelmingly Sunni Muslim.

Saleh said it was not clear who was behind the killings, adding there were gunmen operating in Homs and that the situation was fluid.

Syria-based activist Mustafa Osso blamed the regime was for the assassinations. “They are trying to sow chaos, fear and terror in the hope that protesters will be cowed into retreat,” he said.

A statement by the Al Ghad coalition, an umbrella group of Syrian activists, said it was yet another attempt to crush the Syrian people’s peaceful revolution.

“The regime has failed until now to create sectarian strife in Homs and it’s trying again now to do so in a brutal way, disregarding the importance of scientific experts to Syrian society,” a statement said.

SANA, the state-run news agency, said Khalil, like the other three academics, was killed by armed terrorist groups which it blames for the unrest in Syria.

The New York-based Human Rights Watch group, meanwhile, called for an international investigation into the possible role by Syrian security agents in the recent decapitation of an 18-year-old Syrian woman.

Zainab al-Hosni from Homs was beheaded and mutilated early this month, and her body returned to her family. She is believed to be the first woman to die in Syrian custody since the uprising started.

Activists said she had been detained by security agents to pressure her activist brother to turn himself in.

“Syrian security forces either killed and mutilated Zainab al-Hosni or are turning a blind eye to gangs committing gruesome murders against anti-government activists and their families,” said Joe Stork, deputy Middle East director at Human Rights Watch.

SNP
The total number of your party is only one, it is you only, there is no way that someone else other than you who thinks like you.if you say different, please prove it.

Fayez Sara
http://www.arab2.com/akhbar/f/f.html?http://www.alraialaam.com/