Sanctions and Their Impact; The Opposition Forms Transitional Parliament
Posted by Joshua on Saturday, August 20th, 2011
Syria economy: Sanctions loom
2011-08-19, Aug. 19 (Economist Intelligence Unit) —
The US administration has taken the lead in imposing trade sanctions on Syria, with the explicit aim of hastening the demise of the Assad regime. Owing to the limited size of US-Syrian trade, these measures on their own will have little direct impact. However, they could pave the way for similar measures from the EU and, conceivably, from the UN Security Council.
The regime would still have the resources to survive, but would face a growing risk of being brought down by interest groups within Syria that are unwilling to continue to tie their fortunes to those of the Assad family. The US president, Barack Obama, declared on August 18th that the time has come for the Syrian president to step aside. As part of the efforts being made by the international community to support the aspirations of the Syrian people for democratic government and an end to repression, Mr Obama said that he had approved measures to deepen the regime’s financial isolation. They include barring US persons from having any transactions with the Syrian government a ban on US imports of Syrian crude oil or petroleum products and outlawing any dealings by US individuals or companies with the Syrian oil sector. All US investment in Syria will be prohibited.
Canadian concerns
The US sanctions are largely symbolic, but no less significant for all that. According to the most recent Syrian official trade figures, the US exported goods worth US$46m to Syria in 2009 (0.3% of Syria’s total imports) and purchased Syrian goods worth US$22m (0.2% of the total). US companies are not heavily involved in Syria. In the oil sector, Gulfsands Petroleum, founded in Houston, is a significant player, but it shifted its corporate base to the UK three years ago. The only other US-connected player in Syria is IPR, which, in partnership with ONGC of India started production from its Rashid field last year.
The US sanctions may have more of any impact on Canadian firms, which have more substantial investments in Syria, particularly if the Canadian government follows Mr Obama’s lead. Suncor (by virtue of its merger with Petro-Canada in 2009) has a stake in the Ebla Petroleum Company, which produces about 900m cu metres/year of natural gas from fields originally discovered in central Syria by Marathon of the US (in the early 1980s). These fields have started up relatively recently, in 2010, and Suncor clearly has a major concern to recoup its estimated US$1.2bn investment. The natural gas is entirely consumed within Syria. Suncor also has exploration blocks in Syria. A Suncor official said that the company is not violating any sanctions at present, but that the situation was under review. Another Canada-based firm, Tanganyika Petroleum, also produces oil from the Oudeh field, but has been owned by China’s Sinopec since 2008.
Syria currently produces 387,000 barrels/day of crude oil, according to the oil ministry. Just over 50% is produced by the state-owned Syrian Petroleum Company (SPC), with the remainder coming from nine joint-venture firms in which SPC has 50% stakes. The largest producer among these is Al-Furat Petroleum Company, with output of about 90,000 b/d; its foreign partners are Shell, ONGC and China national Petroleum Corporation (CNPC). CNPC has a separate joint venture (Kawkab) with CNPC; the other foreign players include Tatneft of Russia, Total of France, INA Naftaplin of Croatia, IPR, Suncor and Gulfsands (with Sinochem as an equity partner).
Destination Europe
Syria exports about 145,000 b/d of crude via its state oil marketing firm, Sytrol. Most of these sales are of heavy crude produced by SPC, and their main destinations are refineries in Germany, Italy and France. In 2009 Syria’s oil exports totalled US$2.8bn (just over one-quarter of total exports); exports to the three European countries totalled US$2.2bn. The remainder of Syria’s oil production is processed in the Homs and Banias refineries to produce fuel oil, diesel and gasoline. According to the official trade statistics, Syria in 2009 was self-sufficient in fuel oil and diesel (both of which are subsidised), but imported gasoline worth US$1.5bn, although it also exported US$712m worth of gasoline.
The IMF has a slightly different picture, putting total oil and petroleum product exports at US$3.5bn petroleum imports at US$3.3bn. The overall oil balance of payments was negative, according to the IMF, owing to the US$1.2bn paid in 2009 to oil companies as royalties. If the EU were to impose an embargo on purchases of Syrian crude, the government would probably be able to find buyers in Asia, albeit at a discount. It would also have options to secure alternative supplies of gasoline, should the EU impose a ban on sales of petroleum products to Syria. Gasoline imports totalled 3.6m tonnes in 2009, a relatively modest amount, which could be secured from Russia or Iran (which is now a net exporter, having cut consumption through scrapping subsidies and boosted refinery output).
The bulk of Syria’s imports come from countries that do not appear to be inclined to impose sanctions: the top four suppliers are Ukraine, China, Turkey and Russia, of which only Turkey is showing any real interest in pressurising the Assad regime. Syria’s largest export market by far is Iraq, which seems happy to maintain cordial relations with Mr Assad.
Syria: main trade categories; 2009 US$m Imports Exports
Food, beverages and tobacco 2,822 2,550
Crude oil 0 2,850
Gasoline 1,496 712
Plastics 832 320
Pharmaceuticals 175 240
Manufactured goods 4,399 1,180
Machinery and vehicles 2,562 392
Total 15,359 10,502
Source: Central Bureau of Statistics.
Syria, main trading partners; 2009
US$m
Imports Exports
Ukraine 1,618 Iraq 2,703
China 1,303 Germany 945
Turkey 1,167 France 670
Russia 912 Italy 585
Egypt 860 Saudi Arabia 583
South Korea 785 Egypt 360
Saudi Arabia 615 Lebanon 340
Italy 547 Spain 338
Germany 447 Turkey 312
France 223 UK 151
Source: Central Bureau of Statistics.
Ehsani on Sanctions:
As expected, the EU’s foreign policy committee has proposed adding 15 more Syrian officials and the five different Syrian oil companies to the existing sanctions lit. This would match the EU’s oil embargo to that announced by the U.S. yesterday. The formal vote will take place early next week.
What is critical is that the EU would broaden the definition of people covered by the sanctions from those “involved in the repression” to those “benefitting from the regime’s actions”. This is a much broader definition that the present time.
In addition to the ban on oil imports, technical assistance through the EIB will also be withdrawn.
In the past Europe was not in favor of restricting oil and gas exports for fear that energy shortages will place a heavy burden on the average Syrian citizen. This changed after the U.S. imposed its own sanctions on the sector. It is reported that the EU may soon add both the telecommunication as well as the banking industries to the list.
Incidentally, one recent source of refined petroleum imports to Syria has been the Ukraine. Early last year, a senior Syrian delegation led by Mohammed Hussein (ex Finance Minister) signed a free trade agreement with that country. It will be interesting to see how this relationship survives and prospers following the recent sanctions by the US and the EU.
Wisam Tarif on why the Syrian Opposition is so Divided
Activist: It’s Time For Syrian Opposition To Unify
by Kelly McEvers, NPR, August 19, 2011President Obama has now called on Syrian President Bashar Assad to quit. But if he did, or if he is toppled, who would replace Assad?
There’s no clear answer. Assad and his late father, Hafez Assad, have ruled Syria for four decades and have not tolerated anything that resembles a genuine opposition inside the country’s borders.
“There is no opposition in Syria. There are opposition groups,” said Lebanon’s Wissam Tarif, who has been a prominent campaigner for democracy and human rights in the Middle East.
Divided Opposition
The problem, Tarif says, is that the emerging opposition groups are deeply divided, with no real plan of how the country would be run in a post-Assad era.
Tarif is currently in Beirut and has been documenting the deaths, injuries and detentions in Syria during Assad’s harsh crackdown on protesters over the past five months.
Tarif has been in touch with those leading the protests, and he used to work with anti-government groups inside Syria. Those groups made no real progress until the Arab Spring turned much of the region upside-down. And they still lack unity and direction.
By some counts, there are at least seven Syrian exile groups, each with its own leaders and its own ideas about how the country should go forward.
Then there’s the internal opposition, which has been criticized by some activists for being too close to the Assad regime.
And finally there are the young protesters who have taken to the streets. But Tarif says even they are divided and ill-equipped to provide real leadership.
“There’s millions of people taking to the streets, willing to die for freedom. And it’s a hell of a very difficult job. But it’s not enough,” he says, adding that the demonstrators “do not know how to do politics.”
Call For Unified Council
Tarif says all of these groups need to work together on a transitional council. It would be something of a shadow government, similar to what the rebels have created in Libya. However, that Libyan council has been filled with friction recently.
Still, Tarif says the important thing is to create a council and start working on how to get rid of Assad, maintain stability and run a new country.
“They have a lot of political differences, they have a lot of different political visions, and they have to overcome it,” he said.
Up to now, anti-government groups in Syria have preferred to remain decentralized. This made it more difficult for the Syrian security forces to track them down.
The Obama administration criticized the Assad regime for months, and on Thursday called for him to step down. Assad has given no indication that he’ll comply. But Tarif says it’s time for the opposition to step up, stop arguing and unify.
“Such leadership has to emerge. And it has to emerge yesterday. They don’t have time,” he says.
Syrian Opposition Names New 55 Person Transitional Parliament in Effort to Meet US Demands for a Unified Leadership. [It isn not clear how such a diverse body will be able to make decisions or hammer out decisions without an elected leader or two, but it is a beginning.
It is composed of 16 technocrats, 10 from the Antalya meeting, 7 from the Bruxselles meeting, 8 from the Salvation Meeting in Istanbul, 4 seculars, 12 Ulema, 8 youth, and an effort has been made to include members from all the religious communities.
الانتقالي الموحد والذي من المقرر بحسب مصادر سوريون نت أن يتشكل من خمسة وخمسين شخصية ستتوزع على الشكل التالي ستة عشر من التكنوقراط، وعشرة شخصيات من مؤتمر أنطاليا، وسبعة شخصيات من مؤتمر بروكسل،وثمانية شخصيات من مؤتمر الانقاذ، وأربعة شخصيات علمانية، واثنان من العلماء وثمانية من الشباب وبحسب الوثيقة التي حصل عليها سوريون نت فإن كل جهة من هذه الجهات ستفرز شخصا مثل يمثل النساء واليسار والعلمانية والدروز الاسماعيلية والعلوية وغيرها من الشرائح الطائفية والمجتمعية، وهو الذي سيقود العملية الانتقالية..
لكن سوريون علم أن بعض طوائف المعارضة السورية لم توافق على هذا بعد، ولا تزال المشاورات مستمرة، ويتوقع أن يتولى المجلس مهمة الانتقال بسورية في المرحلة الانتقالية المؤقتة إلى مرحلة الديمقراطية والتحول السلمي الديمقراطي، وبمثابة الحكومة الانتقالية ..
U.S. sanctions on Syrian gov’t not sufficient to bring down al-Assad
2011-08-19 11:35:43
by Matthew Rusling
WASHINGTON, Aug. 18 (Xinhua) — The latest U.S. call for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s ouster and its new sanctions imposed on Damascus may not be sufficient to bring down Assad, U.S. experts said on Thursday.
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Obama issued a new executive order that immediately froze all assets of the Syrian government under U.S. jurisdiction, and prohibited all U.S. citizens from engaging in any transactions involving the Syrian government.It also “bans U.S. imports of Syrian-origin petroleum or petroleum products; prohibits U.S. persons from having any dealings in or related to Syria’s petroleum or petroleum products; and prohibits U.S. persons from operating or investing in Syria.”
Meanwhile, the U.S. Treasury announced that it barred trade with five Syrian oil and gas companies, including General Petroleum Corporation, Syrian Company For Oil Transport, Syrian Gas Company, Syrian Petroleum Company and Sytrol. Speaking on a White House conference call on Thursday, senior U.S. officials said the new sanctions, along with other measures the administration has taken against Assad, will “disrupt the Syrian regime’ s ability to finance its campaign of violence against the Syrian people.”
But there remains some questions as to whether the sanctions will have any impact at all, as the United States is no major importer of Syrian oil.
“The U.S. response alone probably will not have a substantial impact on the question of Assad stepping down,” said Wayne White, a scholar at the Middle East Institute who for decades served in various U.S. government positions in the Arab world.
David Pollock, senior fellow at the Washington Institute, echoed those thoughts.” The sanctions themselves are relatively minor,” he said. “But what’ s much more important is (U.S. President Barack Obama’s) very explicit statements that Assad should step aside.”
“So it’ s really this support (which is important for) the demonstrators in Syria, as well as other countries that are looking to see which way the wind is blowing,” he said.
U.S. Officials said they would continue to build on those actions as well as work with the international community to force Assad to step down, while insisting that the U.S. would not intervene in the domestic affairs of Syria.
Three leading European powers, Germany, Britain and France, have also called for the Syrian leader to step down, and U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland on Thursday said the Obama administration is now looking to more countries to take similar steps.
Markets prepared to handle Syrian oil loss, August 19, 2011
By David Sheppard, Ikuko Kurahone, Reuters
LONDON: Oil markets will quietly swallow the loss of Syrian supplies if Europe joins Washington in slapping new sanctions on the country, but prices would spike if Syria’s ally, and major oil producer Iran, becomes involved in a confrontation with the West.
Analysts and traders said it would take several weeks before the Syrian oil trade could grind to a halt, even if traders such as Vitol or Trafigura are forced to stop sending refined products for President Bashar Assad’s government and companies such as Shell are forced to stop producing and exporting oil from Syria…..
Russia opposed to call for Syria’s Assad to step down
Aug 19, 2011 13:47 Moscow Time
Russia does not see eye-to-eye with the United States and the European Union on their call for the Syrian President Bashar Assad to step down.
Moscow believes that Assad should be given time to carry out the reforms that Damascus has recently spoken of.
According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, Syria has already made impressive progress to that end. – Relevant laws have been adopted, an amnesty has been declared for political prisoners, and Syria said it was prepared to hold general elections by the end of the year and receive an international humanitarian mission.
But the main thing is Bashar Assad’s statement that all military operations against the opposition have been brought to a halt.
The Russian Foreign Ministry feels that Syria’s problems can be settled only through dialogue between the government and the opposition.
Suncor weighs effects of Syria sanctions, Market can absorb loss of oil supply, By David Sheppard and Ikuko Kurahone, Reuters
EGYPT: Liberals approve cleric’s suggestion for new constitution
August 18, 2011 | 11:20 am
A document drafted by the leading cleric at Al Azhar institution, the highest seat of learning in the Sunni Muslim world, to guide the writing of a new constitution for a “modern democratic state” has been widely endorsed by Egypt’s liberal and secular politicians.
The consensus was announced during a meeting that was held under the auspices of Azhar’s top cleric Ahmed el Tayeb on Wednesday and attended by nine potential presidential candidates, representatives of 22 political parties and a number of intellectuals and religious leaders.
“Those who attended the meeting at Al Azhar, agreed that Azhar’s document is a general guiding frame for the constitutional committee,” said presidential candidate Mohamed ElBaradei. Presidential aspirant Ayman Nour described the document as seeking to unite “political forces over the values and principles of a modern democratic and constitutional state.”
Initially brought to light by Tayeb in June, the document consists of 11 principles, proposing that Egypt has an Islamic identity but is committed to a “civil and democratic state governed by law and the constitution.” The principles include articles calling for respect of freedom of opinion, faith and for human rights.
Azhar’s document comes in the middle of a fierce split between Islamists and liberals over the introduction of supra-constitutional principles that would be binding on the new parliament in its writing of a constitution after November elections. Islamists, led by the Muslim Brotherhood’s Justice and Freedom party, are expected to win a sizable percent of Parliament, raising fears among liberals that without guiding principles the constitution would lean heavily toward a religious state.
Tayeb said that the Azhar’s draft, which is more moderate that many Islamists would support, is a code of honor that all parties should commit to voluntarily: “Some people view the [draft] as an attempt to undermine parliament’s freedom in writing the new constitution,” said Tayeb. “But the need for us to overcome our differences and reach common ground on this constitution can’t be more urgent.”
The Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice representative, Mohamed Morsi, said that no one disagreed over the content or the meanings of the Azhar document. But a more extreme sect of Islamists, Salafis, have previously rejected the idea of any constitutional suggestions or recommendations before electing the new parliament.
An Azhar spokesman has said that the Ministries’ Cabinet and the ruling Supreme Council of Armed Forces, which previously expressed willingness to adopt constitutional principles if agreed on by all national powers, have received drafts of the document. –Amro Hassan in Cairo
Gulfsands Runs Risk in Syria of Extra EU Sanctions: Reuters Link, 2011-08-19
LONDON (Reuters) – British oil firm Gulfsands Petroleum could face difficulties with future projects if the European Union follows the United States in toughening sanctions against Syria.
Hariri Tribunal Broadens Probe to 3 Other Attacks
2011-08-19 14:40:15.736 GMT
By MIKE CORDER
Leidschendam, Netherlands (AP) — The U.N.-backed court investigating the 2005 assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri has widened its probe to cover three
other attacks they believe could be linked, the court announced Friday. The Special Tribunal for Lebanon said it has established jurisdiction over the June 2005 assassination of anti-Syria politician George Hawi. It also will investigate unsuccessful attempts to kill Deputy Prime Minister and Defense Minister Elias Murr a month later and lawmaker Marwan Hamadeh in October 2004. The court released few details of the decisions to widen the scope of its investigation, saying it did not want to compromise its work. It did not release details on why prosecutors believe the
three other attacks may be related to Hariri’s assassination.
The expansion of the case, however, represents a
significant escalation in the work of the court that has so far
focussed solely on the Feb. 14, 2005, suicide bombing that
killed Hariri.
Comments (184)
Jasmine said:
I am not qualified to discuss the fate of the economy in Syria but I feel like commenting about the following:
It is composed of 16 technocrats, 10 from the Antalya meeting, 7 from the Bruxselles meeting, 8 from the Salvation Meeting in Istanbul, 4 seculars, 12 Ulema, 8 youth, and an effort has been made to include members from all the religious communities.
This group is scary and the description of their achievement in the history of the uprising,which consist of failed meetings,doesn’t give them any credibility,or inspire any trust.
4 Seculars is the funniest one,because Arab Secularism will never be achieved.
August 20th, 2011, 2:53 am
Samara said:
Sanctions = أكلهواء
August 20th, 2011, 3:42 am
N.Z. said:
erhal ya bashar, is no longer acceptable. Watching the new clips and what his men are inflicting on the protesters is beyond criminal. Savagery, I do not know how to describe it. He must be stopped.
In theory Assad pledge that the military operations against his people are over, since his latest statement his forces killed 39 protesters, Homs is under attack, the number of martyrs will rise. A shameless liar.
I am unable to comprehend the way his forces are inflicting so much pain on each and every captured Syrian. How can they hate so much, how can they torture, their brutality is beyond criminal. How can they?? I was just watching how Hamwis were humiliated and beaten. Shock and Awe, to stop the uprising is the only explanation why these videos are surfacing, yet the numbers of protesters are growing and spreading geographically. Freedom at any cost is the only explanation. Our hearts and prayers are with them. We look up to our men, women and children who suffered or still suffering. They will never be forgotten.
And those infamous torturers and their masters will be remembered with the likes of Nicolae Ceaușescu, the one dictator that reminds me of the father and now the son, butchery. Same brutality, same policies.
“Ceaușescu’s second decade was characterized by an increasingly brutal and repressive regime–by some accounts, the most rigidly Stalinist regime in the Soviet bloc. It was also marked by an ubiquitous personality cult, nationalism and a deterioration in foreign relations with the Western powers as well as the Soviet Union. Ceaușescu’s government was overthrown in the December 1989 revolution, and he and his wife were executed following a televised and hastily organised two-hour court session.”
August 20th, 2011, 3:44 am
DMZ said:
Jasmine:
I would like to know what did you achieve? at least they are willing to expose them self to the wrath of this regime for a greater cause. This brutal regime insists on making this transition as bloody and as painful as possible . As long as the brave Syrians on the ground continue their sacrifice and struggle the deserving leadership will emerge sooner or later.
August 20th, 2011, 3:44 am
Ali said:
In case my comment doesn’t go through, and it wont…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXrcsXE7lHU&feature=player_embedded
Clinton exposed what we have been saying all along.
Thank you Hillary. Thank you for making a fool of yourself
August 20th, 2011, 3:53 am
N.Z. said:
DEFIANT in the face of Assads’ savagery. We will never forget Mr. Ibrahim Kashoush. Read the comments below.
August 20th, 2011, 4:09 am
N.Z. said:
From Twitter:
من غرائب العرب أنّ : مُخرب ليبيا إسمه معمّر وقبيح تونس إسمه زين وناهب مصر إسمه مبارك وفاسد اليمن إسمه صالح وجبان سوريا إسمه الأسد
ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ ﺍﻟﺴﻮﺭﻱ ﻳﻄﺎﻟﺐ ﺍﻟﺠﻴﺶ ﺑﺎﻻﻧﺴﺤﺎﺏ ﻟﺤﺪﻭﺩ 15 ﺁﺫﺍﺭ
الفظائع التي تحصل في سوريا الان لم يحصل مثلها في اي مكان في العالم
الأسد مدعو للتنحي و لكنه لن يتنحي قبل ان يحرق سورية و يقتل شعبها الأبي المسالم .. هل مثل هذا المخلوق يفهم بالدعوات أو الكلام ؟؟
“Since I was 9, in the early sixties, I haven’t seen a day without fear, corruption and humiliation in my country”. My father
The Daily Star’s Rami Khouri : ‘Bashar #Assad has one choice: how to exit’ dailystar.com.lb/Opinion/Column
August 20th, 2011, 5:03 am
Mango said:
‘It’s not peace but regime change the US is after in Syria’
http://rt.com/news/syria-assad-russia-us-eu-resignation/
“UN withdrawal is part of campaign to demonize Syria”
http://rt.com/news/un-syria-withdrawal/
August 20th, 2011, 8:49 am
beaware said:
Assad resignation would destabilize Syria – Moscow
http://rt.com/news/syria-assad-step-moscow/
Published: 19 August, 2011, 16:40
August 20th, 2011, 9:12 am
beaware said:
Five Things Obama Can (and Should) Do to Topple Assad
David Schenker August 20, 2011 | 12:00 am
http://www.tnr.com/print/article/world/93944/five-things-obama-topple-assad
On Thursday, President Obama issued a long overdue statement calling for regime change in Syria, declaring that the “time has come for President Bashar Assad to step aside.” But will that call to action amount to anything in practice? The gestures that Obama has made, including ending the U.S. import of Syrian petroleum products—totaling some 6,000 barrels per day—are little more than symbolic changes of policy. On the other hand, the use of military force hasn’t been explicitly removed from the table, but it’s clear that the American government—not to mention the American public—seems to have little appetite for another war in the Middle East.
Fortunately, there are plenty of policies that the United States could pursue, short of dropping bombs on Damascus, to hasten Assad’s fall. And the good news is that there’s no need to wait before implementing them.
Damascus is currently bankrolling its brutal crackdown by exporting the vast majority of its 150,000 barrels of oil per day to Europe, generating an estimated $7 to 8 million per day for Assad. If the United States were to be joined in its energy sanctions by the EU—which appears to be the direction in which EU officials are moving—it would prove a significant blow to the Syrian government.
Even these joint sanctions, however, would likely prove insufficient on their own. Without its proceeds from oil exports—which account for 30 percent of state revenues—the regime would be forced to burn more quickly through the $17 billion in foreign reserves it started with at the beginning of the revolt. But this process, according to some estimates, could take at least a year, and with the atrocities showing no sign of abating, that sort of time frame is simply too long. Worse still, there is no guarantee that these measures—even in place for years—would be successful in bankrupting and dislodging the regime. For example, Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was sanctioned by the UN in 1990 following the country’s invasion of Kuwait. These sanctions—and, later, the UN “Oil for Food” program—endured until U.S. forces toppled the regime in 2003.
Energy sanctions, in other words, are perhaps the best arrow in the U.S. policy quiver, but, to mix metaphors, they are not a silver bullet. To help hasten Assad’s demise, Washington should take additional measures, in tandem with Europe, to increase the pressures on the regime. To begin, the EU is amenable to broadening its sanctions regime to other institutions and areas of the economy. It will be incumbent on the Obama administration to push the envelope on this front, convincing the EU to also adopt a ban on investment in Syria, particularly in the energy sector, where European companies dominate the market.
In addition, when it comes to aiding the Syrian opposition, the Obama administration should elevate and routinize its contacts with key leaders in the movement, both at home and abroad. If asked, Washington should assist the opposition to better organize its ranks, as well as to develop a publicly articulated vision for Syria’s future that is tolerant, pluralist, and democratic. U.S. support for the opposition might also include the provision of modest funding for Thuraya satellite phones, which can help regime opponents on the ground in Syria to better communicate with each other and with the outside world. At the same time, to demonstrate the U.S. commitment to Syria’s future, President Obama himself should consider an Oval Office meeting (and photo op) with respected Syrian opposition figures.
Towards the Syrian regime, meanwhile, the administration should establish a declaratory policy targeting the Syrian military in order to encourage more desertions. The message from Obama should be that Syrian military officers will be held accountable for war crimes committed against the Syrian people.
Within the United Nations, the administration should move forward on a broad range of initiatives, including pressing the U.N. Security Council to level sanctions against Syria for the regime’s ongoing violation of its commitments to the International Atomic Energy Agency. While China and Russia may be loathe to sanction the Assad regime for its human rights violations (Russia this week announced it would continue to sell weapons to Syria), they might prove more amenable to abstaining from—rather than vetoing—a resolution hitting Damascus for its efforts develop nuclear weapons.
In the end, the administration’s best potential source of leverage against the Assad regime, however, resides in the Middle East. The Gulf States—and Qatar, in particular—have been an important source of foreign direct investment in Syria in recent years. Washington should work with its Gulf allies to ensure that that spigot is turned off. (Since April, Qatar, promisingly, has been featuring the Syrian opposition and its officials on the air on Al Jazeera).
Most important, in this regard, is swaying Syria’s immediate neighbors, all of which have complicated relationships with the Assad regime. The key here is Turkey, Syria’s powerful neighbor to the north. The Islamist government in Ankara, led by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has ongoing contact with Assad, with the Turkish foreign minister visiting Damascus earlier this week. And judging from the ultimatum issued by Turkey—giving Assad two weeks to end military operations—Ankara appears to be reaching the end of its rope. Particularly problematic and embarrassing for the Turkish government is that the Alawite Assad regime, which many Muslims consider to be heterodox, is slaughtering Sunni Muslims during the holy month of Ramadan. If Turkey joins the growing coalition of states that have written off the Assad regime—and also levies sanctions—it would undermine support for the regime among the country’s Sunni business elite, a critical pillar of regime stability.
Regrettably, relations between Washington and Turkey are not what they once were. Although Turkey is a NATO partner, it is an increasingly distant friend of the United States, and one over which the U.S. has not been able to exert a great deal of influence in recent years. But that doesn’t mean that Obama shouldn’t make every effort to bring Ankara in line with the growing international consensus on the Assad regime. Turkey’s support for a Syrian-engineered regime change would compliment and amplify U.S. and EU measures.
It’s true that the United States, and its international partners, will only be able increase their pressure on the Assad regime incrementally. But for the Syrian people, incremental change is much preferable to no change at all.
David Schenker is Aufzien Fellow and director of the Program on Arab Politics at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
August 20th, 2011, 9:17 am
Tara said:
OTW
These are the elements of our revolution:
Shattering the wall of fear-done
Massive Demonstration-done
Sacrifices-done, ongoing on daily basis
International condemnation-done, more work needed especially with BRIC
Targeted sanctions-done, effects need to be seen
Unified opposition-hopefully work in progress, Sunday Istanbul meeting will tell
Damascus proper and Aleppo, Damascus proper have already seen some demonstrations (mazze, Abu remanne, mhajreen), more work needed
I pray and hope a unified opposition will come out to life on Sunday. This is a monumental task. Lack of trust is etched in our psych for the last 40 years. Hating “leaders” is etched in our psych for the last 40 years. We were raised suspicious and paranoid, thanks to the pervasive Mukhabarat apparatus, you do not trust a friend or a neighbor. Now we are asked and we must trust a leadership to emancipate us…There is a profound psychological barrier that make us not wanting to have a leadership and I wish we overcome it.
August 20th, 2011, 9:18 am
aron said:
Is there a list of the transitional council membership anywhere? Who announced it?
August 20th, 2011, 9:22 am
beaware said:
Syria’s security forces face a moral choice
Globe and Mail Update
Published Friday, Aug. 19, 2011 6:48PM EDT
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/editorials/syrias-security-forces-face-a-moral-choice/article2135846/
Syria’s brutal crackdown on its own people has reached a critical moment. The death rate is rising, with at least 19 more killed on Friday, but so is the level of unrest. Protesters have been emboldened by the international community’s calls for Bashar al-Assad’s resignation. Syria appears to have passed the point where massacres will silence the people. This situation can only end by an awakening within the Syrian security forces.
At the moment, there is no other way for the unrest to end. There is little Western desire for intervention, and the West’s tough new sanctions, though necessary, will not by themselves de-stabilize the regime. The pro-democracy forces have the strength of numbers and the will, but little else.
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The security forces can regain a measure of theirs. The rank-and-file enlisted men in the army and many senior officials across the services are not as beholden to Mr. al-Assad as a tiny group of dedicated cronies. Like in Egypt, they may soon tire of killing the innocent. They alone have the power to save the country from further calamity.
August 20th, 2011, 9:22 am
beaware said:
The battle to defend al-Assad ( Iran, Egypt, Turkey and Hezbollah)
20/08/2011
By Tariq Alhomayed
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=2&id=26296
It is clear that the battle to defend the Bashar al-Assad regime has begun in our region, led by Iran, however what is interesting is that Tehran – until now – has played all of its cards, except for Hezbollah. We witnessed the Eliat attack, and the movement along the Gaza front, despite Hamas denying its involvement. In addition to this, we can add the statements made by [Iraqi Prime Minister] Nouri al-Maliki and Moqtada al-Sadr, and the escalation carried out by the Shiite opposition in Bahrain; this is precisely what those affiliated to the al-Assad regime threatened following Saudi King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz’s address on Syria. However the attempts to ignite the Sinai represent a new development and a grave danger. This is not to mention the intensification of Kurdish attacks against Turkey, which may explain Ankara’s reluctance to take a firm stance against al-Assad until now.
Iran utilizing all of its cards to defend al-Assad – all the while Hezbollah remains noticeably calm – means that Iran is not confident with regards to the resilience of the al-Assad regime, not for external reasons, but rather because of the pressure of the Syrian people. Therefore Iran is today doing the impossible in order to alleviate the pressure on the al-Assad regime, but without risking one of its most important tools in the region, namely Hezbollah. For Iran knows that Israel will not pass up the chance to destroy Hezbollah if it takes action today along the Lebanese front, despite the Israeli eagerness to see the survival of the al-Assad regime, which represents its best line of defense along its Syrian border.
Iran – and also Israel – are both aware that it would be fatal if Hezbollah took action today, for the Lebanese group has lost a lot of popular support, whether in Lebanon or the region, after the game has been exposed. The story is no longer that of there being a moderate camp and a resistance camp, for the sectarian dimensions of the situation have been made clear; for it is Iran and the Shiite ruling elite who are standing with al-Assad today, in addition to those who fall within Iran’s sphere of influence in Iraq, as well as Hezbollah and the Bahraini Shiite opposition. As for those in Gaza – whoever they might be – they are nothing more than cards in the “Abu Adas Axis” [in reference to the Lebanese citizen who appeared in a video allegedly claiming responsibility for the assassination of Rafik Hariri]. Therefore Hezbollah entering the game at this stage would only hasten its destruction. As for the opening of an Egyptian front, this represents a gain for Iran on multiple levels, for it harms Egyptian stability, and also represents an opportunity to establish Iranian political influence on Egyptian soil, under the pretext of fighting Israel. Therefore Tehran has been compensated for Hezbollah’s loss of reputation and popularity in the Arab world, for Israeli aggression against Egypt – should this occur – will affect the Arabs far more than it will Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Therefore, we are facing a complex operation that aims to alleviate the pressure on Bashar al-Assad, and defend him, in light of a clear Turkish failure to pay back Iran twofold. Tehran today is throwing rocks at the region whilst living in the proverbial glasshouse, particularly in terms of the Arabs in the Iranian city of Ahwaz, and elsewhere. What is most important today is for Egypt not to be dragged into this battle which only serves sectarian interests. As for the Arabs, it is their mission, particularly the capable amongst them, to confront Iran on the ground, and not just in speeches, for Tehran is aware that it is facing a decisive moment in terms of its foreign policy, namely the collapse of the Bashar al-Assad regime. This is something that would make it easier than at any time before for the Arabs to clip Iran’s wings in terms of its regional ambitions.
August 20th, 2011, 9:37 am
Afram said:
“Syrian_stan Opposition bozos Names New 55 Person Transitional MB Parliament:
1-Abu arboud alasfouriah;ambassador to tora bora kandahar
2-Abu Musa,ab zarqawi alhoumasani Professional assassin
3-genaral 3ar3ar in charge of blowing up minorities hoods
4-Abu falafel alhamawy ,profession,dumping people in the river
5-Abu huryra alsouri,professional islamic banker for the crooks&criminals
6-Doctor Abu obyda in charge of chopping off heads& limbs a la peaceful islamic way
7-HAMSTER AKA the”animal”alqaeida Technology Coordinator/kabooms stuff
8-OUM muha_MAD,profession,hangs minorities on cloth-lines!
9-seif al islam in charge of Environmental Working Group, burning up nice people
10-the rest are garbage collectors for the new syrian Banana Republic….
August 20th, 2011, 9:48 am
Mjabali said:
Who are these people and who elected them to represent Syria?
The only one who represents me is someone I elect.
To include only 4 seculars is an insult especially the ones they are going to chose are religiously inclined more or less.
This council, if truly exists, is not gonna change things a bit unless they include all forms of anti regime. This council is doomed for failure if it did not include minorities correctly .
August 20th, 2011, 9:57 am
syau said:
Time Magazine Publishes Complete Fiction On Syria – The
Lizard People Is More Credible, Believe It Or Not
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/time-magazine-publishes-complete-fiction-on-syria-the-lizard-people-story-is-more-credible-believe-it-or-not/
by Scott Creighton
Tossing their last remaining threads of journalistic integrity to the wind, the editors at TIME magazine have published one of the most obvious examples of ridiculous propaganda yet to be written on the subject of the so-called Syrian “revolution”. Based entirely on “activists say” journalism even though they claim to be on the ground in Hama, the TIME magazine article stretches the limits of credibility to the point of breaking and then beyond. They offer not one single shred of evidence in their propaganda piece and yet report whatever the “activists” tell them as the gospel truth ignoring the obvious fact that it’s in the activists best interests to make the Assad regime look as bad as possible. The point of the whole thing is regime change after all.
If I were to use the same journalistic standards as TIME magazine, I could argue that “some say” Obama is a shape-shifting Lizard Person sent from the center of the earth to take over humanity and turn us all into their personal Lizard Slaves. Though that might be fun and it would probably get me a lot of page views, it certainly isn’t journalism. Neither is this story from TIME magazine
Continues….
August 20th, 2011, 10:15 am
Revlon said:
Humiliation of civilians by Republican guarsds, Baniyas style
http://www.facebook.com/Youth.Syria.Freedom
August 20th, 2011, 10:20 am
Tara said:
Syau
See revlon link @ 18. Tell me what you think.
Please don’t try the fabrication story as there are tanks everywhere and we can fabricate tanks. Is this the Syria you are defending?
August 20th, 2011, 10:30 am
N.Z. said:
Look how they are standing, jubilant, free and tall. No doubt Homs was hit hard this morning because of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GXqS-GFWV8&feature=share
August 20th, 2011, 10:32 am
syau said:
Tara,
I’ve seen it before and as I have said before, terrorists deserve everything that comes their way.
Did they give a second thought to the victims of their vicious terror campaign?
No Sympathy for terrorists.
August 20th, 2011, 10:56 am
Tara said:
Syau
How do you know they are terrorist? Because they were caught up demonstrating? Because they want the regime to fall?
August 20th, 2011, 10:58 am
syau said:
Tara,
Any legitimate peaceful protesters would not be causing chaos, therefore not a problem. The people who are apprehended are the armed gang members; the terrorists wreaking havoc in Syria.
The people you see in the video have been apprehended for the terror campaign they unleashed against residents, security and army personnel, not for protesting.
August 20th, 2011, 11:10 am
Abu Umar said:
\” 21. syau said:
Tara,
I’ve seen it before and as I have said before, terrorists deserve everything that comes their way.
Did they give a second thought to the victims of their vicious terror campaign?
No Sympathy for terrorists”
And Bashar, Maher, Asef, and the rest of their cronies including a sycophantic charlatan like yourself are the biggest terrorists. The volcanic rage of millions of Syria will hunt them down to the farthest corners of the earth. Your regime began the battle but it will lose the war.
August 20th, 2011, 11:13 am
Aboud said:
Tara, because like all supporters of brutal dictatorships throughout the ages, such supporters do not need niggling little things such as “proof” to justify genocide and mass slaughter.
The menhebaks aren’t original, they are the cookie-cutter unthinking followers of a murderous regime, the kind we have seen again and again throughout history. In five months of blabbing on this forum, SYAU has not provided one shred of proof of the existence of armed gangs, nor does he require any to justify war crimes.
And yet Australia has some very strict laws when it comes to the committing and supporting of war crimes. I’m sure the statements of people like SYAU will come in very handy some day when it comes time to prosecute such people.
August 20th, 2011, 11:19 am
Tara said:
Syau
How do you know they are terrorists? Just because someone from security forces arrested them, you are labeling them terrorists without due trial? How is that different from street justice or public hanging? Using your logic, the street should feel free to label any informant, soldier, security personel an enemy combatant and do whatever they see fit.
Syau, do not bother to answer. I give up!
August 20th, 2011, 11:21 am
Aboud said:
Thanks N.Z, awesome song. For those menhebaks who don’t know (all of them, seeing as how none of the turds even knew what a badal was LOL!), Insha’at is an upper class neighborhood.
I’d like to see what the turds who were calling Al-Rimal in Latakia poor and conservative have to say about that. What a disgraceful bunch of fake liberals as I’ve ever seen. They expect to go out with the neighbor’s daughter but would kill their sister for going out with a guy.
August 20th, 2011, 11:26 am
Revlon said:
An informant blew the cover of elements from Khaled Ibn AlWaleed Phalange of the FSA in Rastan, Homs.
They were ambushed by Jr’s army.
Four fell martyrs while three were abducted.
This event underscors the significance of publicising the names of informants and participants in the killing of civilians and the brave military defectors who defend them.
AlFatiha upon the souls of martyr’s
May God bless their families with solace, and empower them with solace.
حمص : بعملية غادرة من أحد الأشخاص في الرستن تم الأبلاغ عن مكان تابع لكتيبة ضباط خالد أبن الوليد وجاري التأكد من الخبر والذي وراء الأخبارية ودارت معارك طاحنة أستشهد محمود أيوب أبو سلطان أحمد أيوب أنور سيفاوي عبد الكريم وأستشهد أحمد محمد التركماني تم القبض على الأبطال الملازم يعرب طقطق والبطل خطاب عبد المعين عبد الباسط أمين عبيد محمود الأكسح………….
August 20th, 2011, 11:43 am
Tara said:
Dear Revlon
I agree with you. Informants’ names must be publicized. It is the only way of deterrence at this stage.
August 20th, 2011, 11:47 am
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Syau is one of the arch reactionary mnhebaks here. He’s worse than SANA. If I miss some real baathist propaganda, I go to the Ma7louf outlet. At least it’s funny, and not as boring and tedious as Syau.
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August 20th, 2011, 11:48 am
Revlon said:
Asha3b Yureed I3dama Ra2ees!
– The people want to hang the president
Qamishlo La Tkhafi,
Doro Qablil Qazzafi
– Do not be afraid Qamishlo
– His turn is due beforw Quiddafi
قامشلو مسائية 19 8 2011 الشعب يريد إعدام الرئيس
August 20th, 2011, 11:50 am
Tara said:
Amir
How do The average Israelis feel about the Syrian revolution? Are they afraid what comes after the rabbit of Golan?
August 20th, 2011, 11:53 am
ann said:
Syria Condemns U.S., Europe Over Calls for Assad to Quit
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/08/19/bloomberg1376-LQ81D01A1I4H01-3UCMJ86N4F4U087RIKG7MPDOCE.DTL&type=printable
Syria Condemns U.S., Europe Over Calls for Assad to Quit
Friday, August 19, 2011
(Updates with violence in sixth paragraph.)
Aug. 20 (Bloomberg) — Syria condemned the U.S. and Europe over calls for President Bashar al-Assad to relinquish his rule and rejected all interference in the country’s internal affairs.
The allies’ statements reveal the “true face of the conspiracy” against Syria for its role in the Arab-Israeli conflict, according to an editorial today on the website of the government’s al-Thawra newspaper. Removing Syria from the conflict is “a strategic goal for Israel,” according to al- Thawra.
In a coordinated move with U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, U.S. President Barack Obama issued a statement on Aug. 18, saying Assad should step down and allow Syrians to chart their own political future. The European Union reached an agreement to broaden sanctions against the Syrian regime, including preparing for an embargo on the import of Syrian crude oil into the bloc, according to an e-mailed statement yesterday.
Faced with the most serious threat to his family’s 40-year rule, Assad has deployed tanks, armored vehicles, artillery and helicopters to crush the uprising that began in mid-March after revolts ousted the leaders of Tunisia and Egypt and sparked a conflict in Libya.
Syria rejects any kind of interference in its internal affairs, al-Thawra said in the editorial. The Assad government “will never permit that,” it said.
Firing on Protesters
Security forces fired on protesters today in the Homs governorate and Daraa, Mahmoud Merhi, head of the Arab Organization for Human Rights, said in a phone interview from Damascus, the capital.
At least 40 people died yesterday in Damascus, Homs and Daraa, the area where the revolt against Syria’s president began in mid-March, according to the website of the National Organization for Human Rights in Syria.
Armed groups killed 12 members of the security forces yesterday in Damascus, Homs and Idlib, the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency reported.
Obama’s declaration was his first explicit call for Assad to give up power since the uprising started. He also signed an executive order freezing any Syrian government assets in the U.S. and banning import to the U.S. of petroleum products of Syrian origin. The order prohibits people in the U.S. from doing business with Syria.
The measure by Western governments may add to pressure for United Nations action to penalize the government for the crackdown that Merhi and Qurabi say has killed more than 2,400 people. About 500 members of the security forces have died during that time, the government has said.
A UN team will go to Syria this weekend on a four-day mission to assess the humanitarian situation, emergency relief coordinator Valerie Amos told reporters. She said the government has pledged “full access” for the team.
August 20th, 2011, 12:03 pm
Ales said:
Time’s article mentioned in post 17 is really a shame. At the top is a picture made by Turkish journalists, showing burned police station in Hama (no mention it’s police station). Following that, entire article is about ruined Hama, but they could not make another picture of ruins to show. Why not? After all they were in city, if you believe article.
40% of journalist writing articles in major papers are paid by government agencies, be it USA or Syria or many of other countries in the world. If you don’t believe that, do internet search. There was an article in Rolling Stone many years ago (maybe 10 or so), it made to their picks of most “read or interesting articles” in an decade.
August 20th, 2011, 12:04 pm
jad said:
كيف تسقط الأنظمة؟؟ بعض التفكير العلمي في زمن العاطفة والإندفاع
by Ali Muh
من كثرة ما سمعنا مصطلح إسقاط النظام مؤخراً، رأيت أن ننظر بطريقة موضوعية علمية إلى موضوع سقوط الأنظمة وكيفيات حدوث هذا، مع شواهد تاريخية، عل أخوتنا في الوطن يفهمون أن كلمة إسقاط النظام في سورية لا تعني إلا التدخل الخارجي.
فكيف تسقط الأنظمة؟
تاريخياً، هنالك مجموعة من الطرق التي سقطت فيها أنظمة وبنيت على أنقاضها أنظمة أخرى.
أولاً: الثورة الشاملة:
مثل الثورة الفرنسية والثورة البلشفية في روسيا. كانت الثورات الشاملة سِمة العصر الحديث وأوائل القرن العشرين، وكلمة شاملة تعني أن الثورة أحدثت تغييرات جذرية في بنى المجتمعات التي حدثت فيها، وترافقت مع فترات تحضير طويلة لعب فيها المثقفون والمتنورون دوراً جوهرياً في تحضير الجماهير للتغيرات المنتظرة. كان طابع الثورات الشاملة مسلحاً متصاحباً بعصيانات مدنية وإضرابات ومظاهرات، واستمرت وقتاً طويلاً حتى حققت أهدافها (الثورة الفرنسية: 4 سنوات – الثورة البلشفية: 12 سنة وتبعتها سنوات الحرب الأهلية حتى استتباب السلطة للبلاشفة).
ثانياً: التفكك الداخلي
أبرز أمثلة التفكك الداخلي هو انهيار الإتحاد السوفييتي ودول المنظومة الإشتراكية السابقة. لعبت الصراعات الدولية دوراً كبيراً في التمهيد للتفكك الداخلي في هذه الدول، وانتهى التفكك بنتائج كارثية في أغلب الأحيان، من الانهيار الإقتصادي في روسيا ودول رابطة الدول المستقلة، إلى المجازر والحروب الأهلية والعدوان الخارجي (يوغسلافيا). ربما كان تفكك تشيكوسلوفاكيا المثال الوحيد الذي لم يترافق بكوارث وطنية ضخمة.
ثالثاً: الإنقلاب العسكري
أبرز أمثلة الإنقلابات العسكرية هو انقلاب نابليون بونابرت على الجمهورية في فرنسا، وهناك أمثلة لا تعد ولا تحصى عن الإنقلابات في العصر الحديث. تتميز الإنقلابات العسكرية في غالبيتها الساحقة بالدموية، ونادراً ما أسست لديمقراطيات حقيقية.
رابعاً: الثورات المسلحة
تختلف الثورات المسلحة عن الثورات الشاملة المذكورة أعلاه بعدم وجود فترة تحضيرية طويلة، وبأنها في غالبيتها يسارية الطابع (مع بعض الاستثناءات مثل “ثورة” طالبان في أفغانستان). أبرز أمثلة الثورات المسلحة هي ثورة كوبا بقيادة كاسترو وتشي غيفارا.
خامساً: الإنتفاضات الشعبية
على قلة أمثلتها في التاريخ المعاصر، كانت الثورات الشعبية في غالبيتها ردة فعل جماهيرية على أحداث محددة، وتميزت بعدم وجود توجه شعبي مخالف للثورة في حينها، بالإضافة إلى تدخل العسكر لحسم الأمور لصالح الانتفاضة، حيث لم يسجل في التاريخ الحديث أية انتفاضة جماهيرية لم تنته بتدخل العسكر لحسم الأمور. أبرز أمثلة الانتفاضات الجماهيرية هو سقوط الديكتاتور الروماني تشاوشيسكو، الذي حسم العسكر الأمور فيه بعد انتحار وزير الدفاع فاسيل ميليا، وتولي تشاوشيسكو قيادة الجيش بنفسه، ما فسره العسكر بأن فاسيل قتل ولم ينتحر، وهو ما حفز أعداداً ضخمة منهم للانضمام إلى الانتفاضة. مثال آخر هو إسقاط الديكتاتور السوداني جعفر النميري، حيث كان تدخل الجيش بقيادة عبد الرحمن سوار الذهب لصالح الانتفاضة هو نقطة الحسم. يذكر التاريخ الانتفاضة الإندونيسية ضد حكم سوهارتو، حيث لم يتدخل الجيش لصالح المنتفضين، وإنما عقدت صفقة بين قائد الجيش ويرانتو وزعيم المعارضة الإسلامية ذو النفوذ الشعبي الواسع أمين رئيس، قام رئيس بموجبها بتهدئة الثوار الذين احتلوا البرلمان وإخراجهم منه، بمقابل ضمان ويرانتو أن يستقيل سوهارتو، وهو ما حدث، وما أدى لاحقاً إلى إجهاض الثورة والحفاظ على النظام بصورة مختلفة وصبغة إسلامية.
سادساً: التدخل الخارجي
غالباً ما استهدف التدخل الخارجي حكومات ديمقراطية (مثل التدخل البلجيكي في الكونغو للتخلص من باتريس لومومبا)، وهنالك أمثلة تاريخية عن تدخلات خارجية لإسقاط أنظمة غير ديمقراطية (مثل التدخل السوفييتي في تشيكوسلوفاكيا لإسقاط ألكسندر دوبتشيك، والتدخل الأمريكي في العراق لإسقاط نظام صدام حسين، والتدخل الأطلسي الذي لا يزال قائماً إلى اليوم لإسقاط العقيد معمر القذافي). كانت التدخلات الخارجية دموية دائماً، ولم يحصل أن أنتجت أنظمة متينة ترضي تطلعات الشعوب. بل على العكس، أدت التدخلات الدولية دائماً إلى أنظمة تابعة للجهة المتدخلة، وأدت إلى انقسامات داخلية ظهرت نتائجها الكارثية لاحقاً.
سابعاً: ربيع الثورات العربية
تشبه نهاية ثورة 25 يناير في مصر إلى حد كبير نهاية الانتفاضة الأندونيسية ضد سوهارتو، ولا يزال يحدونا الأمل أن تصحح الجماهير المصرية مسار الثورة. في تونس، كان تدخل العسكر هو ما حسم أمر هروب بن علي، وأوقف الثورة عند تلك النقطة حتى اليوم. أما في اليمن وليبيا فقد كان مسمى الثورة مجرد غطاء لزعزعة النظام، وإحداث انشقاق وطني خطير (اليمن) أو فتح المجال للتدخل العسكري الخارجي (ليبيا). أما الثورات التي لم تحظ بالدعم الإعلامي والدبلوماسي والعسكري الدولي فقد أجهضت في مهدها أو تكاد (البحرين والسعودية).
من الملاحظ أن التدخل الخارجي سواء من خلال الضغط (اليمن ومصر) أو من خلال العمليات العسكرية (ليبيا) لعب دوراً أساسياً في ربيع الثورات العربية. وهنا يبرز السؤال الذي كتبت المقالة من أجله، ما هو السيناريو المرجح في سوريا؟
من المستحيل وقوف العسكر ضد الرئيس كما هو واضح.
الحراك في سورية لم يرق بعد إلى مستوى انتفاضة، ناهيك عن معارضة فئة كبيرة من السوريين للحراك ودعمها للنظام.
فشل الحراك حتى هذه اللحظة في شل مفاصل الحياة في سورية، ولم ينجح بالقيام بأي اعتصام أو إضراب أو عصيان مدني فعال.
لا تبدو هنالك أية أعراض للتفكك الداخلي للنظام ولا لضعف القبضة الأمنية وإفلات المظاهرات منها.
تبقى سيناريوهات انشقاق الجيش والتدخل العسكري الخارجي، ويجتمع الاحتمالان في أنهما شبه مستحيلي الحدوث، بالإضافة إلى أن أي منهما ستنتج عنه حرب أهلية.
أترك السؤال مفتوحاً للمعارضين عن احتمالات سقوط النظام، وأترك للجميع الحكم على ما يمكن أن يحدثه أي من السيناريوهين الأخيرين.
“Mahran Issa المشكلة انني ومنذ فترة وأنا أحاول أن أشرح ان الشرخ الإجتماعي الذي استند للإثنيات في بلادنا تم تأجيجها إعلاميا من كل المنابر والمحلية منها مما أفرز مفرزات قبلية وإثنية غير موجودة في السناريوهات المذكورة .. وعليه الموضوع لم يعد إسقاط نظام بقدر ما أنه تمزيق مجتمع وإسقاط دولة وهذا ما أرى المسؤولية فيه على جميع الأطراف و من نتائج العنف و الإنجرار بإثنية ما لتحارب أخرى بسذاجة الأطفال الذين يلعبون لعبة إثبات الوجود..ولكن على حساب وطن
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August 20th, 2011, 12:17 pm
Amir in Tel Aviv said:
Tara,
I can’t speak for the average Israeli, because I’m way above an average Israeli 🙂 . My friends and colleagues are pro-revolution. I believe that many Israelis want to see our ME free from oppression. And some, of course, are worried. No one knows the outcome of all of this.
PS Did you notice that I get some (not many though) green thumbs, while you have zero ? 🙂 What did you do that upset so many mn7ebaks.
.
August 20th, 2011, 12:26 pm
ann said:
Israel apologises for death of Egyptian soldiers!!!!!!!!!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4d4a9dda-cb24-11e0-b6d1-00144feabdc0.html
Ehud Barak, the Israeli defence minister has expressed his country’s “deep regret” for the killing on Thursday of at least three Egyptian troops during clashes between Israeli soldiers and suspected Palestinian infiltrators who had attacked Israel from Egypt.
Mr Barak said he had ordered a military investigation and a joint inquiry with the Egyptian army into the incident on the border between the two countries.
Earlier in the day Cairo had demanded a formal apology and a joint investigation.
News of the deaths has fuelled an outpouring of fury in Egypt with hundreds of protesters burning Israeli flags on Saturday, as they massed in front of the Israeli embassy in Cairo for a second day demanding the expulsion of the ambassador.
The killings stoked tensions between the two countries at a time of rising pressure within Egypt for tougher policies towards Israel following the popular uprising which ousted Hosni Mubarak, the former president.
One of the accusations frequently levelled by domestic critics against Mr Mubarak, was that he was excessively accommodating towards Israeli interests.
“Israel and any other [country] must understand that the day our sons get killed without a strong and an appropriate response, is gone and will not come back,” said Amr Moussa, a former Arab League chief and now an Egyptian presidential hopeful. He tweeted his statement along with, “the blood of our martyrs which was spilt while carrying out their duties, will not be shed in vain.”
Amos Gilad, a senior Israeli defence official said an investigation was set up to find out just who killed the Egyptians. “No soldier intentionally aims any weapons at Egyptian police or soldiers,” he told Israel Radio, “ … perhaps terrorists fired at them, or something else occurred.”
Egypt and Jordan are the only Arab states which have diplomatic relations with Israel. Mr Gilad described his country’s peace treaty with Egypt a “fundamental element of existence in the Middle East.”
Eight Israelis were been killed and more than 20 injured by a gunmen near the Red Sea resort of Eilat on Thursday. Israel blamed the attack on the Popular Resistance Committees, a Palestinian militant group based in the Gaza Strip.
Israeli officials point out that the assailants travelled more than 200 kilometres through the Egyptian Sinai before crossing back into Israel and attacking cars and buses close to the border.
Israeli leaders have refrained from publicly criticising Egypt, and have repeatedly emphasised that Thursday’s attack was planned and carried out by a Gaza-based group.
However, there is no doubt among Israeli officials that the security situation in Sinai has deteriorated sharply in recent months – and that the absence of effective Egyptian control in the peninsula is posing a growing risk to Israel.
“We have been saying for some time that the Egyptian government is having severe challenges in executing its authority in the Sinai,” one Israeli official said on Friday. “We have had a Wild West situation, where there is no law and order and where gangs, some criminal and some terrorist, have moved into the vacuum.”
Egypt recently stepped up its efforts to regain effective control over the Sinai, sending in an additional 1,000 troops to take on militant groups operating in the peninsula. The Israeli official suggested, however, that a broader effort was now required: “No one is happy about what happened this week, but we hope that this gives an impetus to everyone to encourage Egypt to fully exercise its sovereignty in the Sinai.”
An Egyptian cabinet statement on Saturday stressed that the country was “able to protect its borders and comprehensively secure Sinai.” It also said that a meeting would be held on Monday to create an “institutional entity” to develop the region and solve the problems of its people.
A desert region, with a hinterland of rugged mountains, the Sinai is inhabited by Bedouin tribes who have had an increasingly strained relationship with Egypt’s central authorities.
Police brutality, restrictions on land ownership, poverty and neglect by central government have deepened resentment against Cairo’s rule and fuelled tensions with local authorities. Although, the coastlines of the Sinai are dotted with beach resorts which account for a big slice of the country’s tourism revenue, local people say there has been no job creation for them and their communities have not benefited.
August 20th, 2011, 12:26 pm
Tara said:
Amir
I truly believe the way to a just peace in the ME is through democracy not through dictatorships and oppression.
August 20th, 2011, 12:29 pm
ann said:
Egypt withdraws ambassador to Israel over police deaths
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/20/egypt-withdraws-israeli-ambassador-police
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Egypt withdraws ambassador to Israel over police deaths
Protest at the deaths of five officers reportedly shot by Israeli forces chasing Palestinian militants after Eilat attack
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Egyptian protesters gather in front of the Israeli embassy in Cairo. Photograph: Khalil Hamra/AP
Egypt says it will recall its ambassador to Israel in protest at the deaths of five police officers, reportedly shot by Israeli forces.
Cairo said it held Israel “politically and legally responsible” for the incident on Thursday, and demanded an investigation and an apology.
Israel has pledged to investigate the deaths, which Egyptian officials say happened during a shoot-out between Israeli forces and suspected Palestinian militants.
The violence began on Thursday when gunmen attacked buses near the Israeli Red Sea resort of Eilat, killing eight people.
Egyptian officials say Israeli forces chased the suspected militants across the border, and a number of people were killed – including the police officers.
The decision to withdraw Yasser Reda was announced as thousands of protesters gathered outside the Israeli embassy in Cairo for a second day, demanding the expulsion of the Israeli envoy.
In a statement, the Egyptian cabinet said: “The Egyptian ambassador to Israel will be withdrawn until we are notified about the results of an investigation by the Israeli authorities.”
It added that Egypt would send reinforcements to protect its borders and “to respond to any Israeli military activity at the Egyptian borders”.
It is the first time in a decade that Egypt has withdrawn its ambassador.
Egypt’s interim government accused Israel of violating their 1979 peace treaty, which is already being tested by the fall of Hosni Mubarak.
Mohammed Adel, a leader of the protests that toppled Mubarak, welcomed the cabinet decision, saying: “It proves to all that the Egyptian revolution is capable of imposing its rules on the Israeli enemy.”
Amr Moussa, a former Arab League chief and now an Egyptian presidential hopeful, said: “Israel and any other [country] must understand that the day our sons get killed without a strong and an appropriate response, is gone and will not come back.”
Israeli officials insisted the peace treaty was “stable” despite the developments.
“No one had any intention to harm Egyptian security personnel,” Amos Gilad, a senior Israeli defence ministry official who works closely with Egypt, told Israel Radio. “The question is what happened in the field and that is what is being investigated.”
The cross-border attack has raised concerns about the increasingly lawless Sinai peninsula, which borders both Israel and the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.
Israel says Gaza militants armed with guns, explosives, mortars and an anti-tank missile, killed eight Israelis in a roadside ambush on Thursday after infiltrating Israel through Sinai.
Israeli air strikes on Gaza on Friday killed at least 12 Palestinians. More than a dozen rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel, wounding nine Israelis in the south of the country.
Israel has offered conflicting accounts about how the Egyptians were killed and the Israeli military has promised an investigation.
An Israeli military officer initially said a suicide bomber, not Israeli soldiers, killed the Egyptian security forces.
Meanwhile Israeli media reported that some of the sniper fire directed at the Israeli motorists on Thursday came from near Egyptian army posts and speculated that the Egyptian troops were killed in the crossfire.
August 20th, 2011, 12:34 pm
jad said:
هل هو «الثعبان» الضعيف في سوريا ما يغري المملكة؟
جنان جمعاوي
عدا ثورة 25 يناير في مصر، لم يصدر عن السعودية أي موقف «رسمي» و«سريع» حيال الثورات التي اجتاحت العالم العربي. ثورة الياسمين في تونس كانت لتمر بلا أي بيان ملكي لولا ان حطت رحال الرئيس المخلوع زين العابدين بن علي في جدة في 14 كانون الثاني. فكان بيان رسمي في 15 كانون الثاني «يرحب» بالضيف التونسي.
ثورة مصر التي اندلعت في 25 كانون الثاني استدعت باكرا بيانا ملكيا. في 29 من الشهر ذاته، أدان الملك عبد الله محاولات «المندسين باسم حرية التعبير زعزعة أمن مصر واستقرارها».
كان لثورتي البحرين واليمن حسابات أخرى. فالأولى «مملكة» و«خليجية» وتركيبتها الديموغرافية «تنطوي على كثير من الألغام»… الإيرانية، في حين أن الثانية لطالما شكلت «جيبا» تخشى المملكة اشتعاله، لحسابات عشائرية مذهبية، ناهيك عن تنامي قوة القاعدة هناك. موقف الرياض من الأولى تُرجم دعما عسكرياً لإخماد الثورة، فيما اتخذ في الثانية شكل «تمترس» وراء مجلس التعاون الخليجي في مبادراته المتكررة لإنهاء الأزمة اليمنية، قبل استضافة علي عبد الله صالح جريحاً.
ثم اندلعت الثورة في سوريا. انتظرت الرياض ما يزيد على خمسة أشهر لتصدر بياناً رسمياً، وصفه الكاتب في صحيفة «الغارديان» البريطانية ايان بلاك، في حديث لـ«السفير» بأنه «انتقادي نادر»، نظراً إلى ان «السياسة الخارجية السعودية لطالما كانت عبارة عن سياسة إدارة الأعمال، أي تنطوي على حوافز مالية ومبادرات غير علنية».
في بيانه، أعرب الملك عبد الله عن «عدم قبوله بما يحدث في سوريا»، مطالباً «بإيقاف آلة القتل، وإراقة الدماء وتحكيم العقل قبل فوات الأوان». وأرفق التصريح بتحرك وصف بـ«الجريء» تمثل في سحب السفير السعودي من دمشق.
فما الأسباب الكامنة وراء إصدار المملكة بياناً كهذا، وهي المعروفة بـ«تحفظها التقليدي» عن التدخل في شؤون الدول الأخرى؟
مجلة «جويش ويك» الإسرائيلية عزت صدور البيان إلى سعي سعودي «لتحويل الأنظار عن تقارير حديثة تتحدث عن الدور الناشط الذي لعبته المملكة في دعم هجمات 11 أيلول»، مشيرة إلى كتاب جديد بعنوان «اليوم الحادي عشر» قال فيه انطوني سامرز وروبن سوان ان «مسؤولين سعوديين كباراً علموا بالمؤامرة. وأن الرئيس (السابق جورج) بوش استخدم نفوذه لحماية أفراد الأسرة المالكة».
محللون آخرون ردوا السبب فعلا إلى «حجم إراقة الدماء في سوريا»، فيما قال آخرون إن «زعامة» العالم العربي هي ما تطمح إليه الرياض. غالبيتهم قالوا «فتش عن إيران».
موقع الزعامة شاغر.. أو يكاد؟
لطالما بحثت السعودية عن دور قومي قيادي في المنطقة، لكن دوراً كهذا كانت قد استحوذت عليه مصر بزعامة جمال عبد الناصر في الستينيات، وحاول العراق لعبه في عهد صدام حسين في الثمانينيات وبداية التسعينيات، ومن ثم مصر خلال حكم حسني مبارك بعد وقوع العراق تحت الاحتلال الأميركي. لكن السعودية استطاعت، ومنذ منتصف السبعينيات، أن تصبح لاعباً في المنطقة.. إلى جانب سوريا، ثم ايران ومؤخرا أنقرة.
مع سقوط مبارك، باتت السعودية «العملاق السني» الوحيد في المنطقة، فهل تلوح في أفقها فرصة زعامة تكتمل مع سوريا أضعف؟
يؤثر الباحثان في «معهد واشنطن لسياسات الشرق الأدنى» اندرو تابلر، الذي تحدث لـ«السفير»، وسايمون هندرسون التوضيح أن «الرياض ربما غير راغبة في الذهاب أبعد من إصدار بيان»، لكن كلمات الملك «القوية تعزز ادّعاء المملكة زعامة العالمين العربي والإسلامي، وخاصة خلال شهر رمضان».
وكان الباحث في مركز الملك فيصل للدراسات والبحوث الإسلامية نواف عبيد، الذي عمل مستشاراً سابقاً للسفير السعودي السابق لدى واشنطن الأمير تركي الفيصل، قال في مقال نشره موقع «سي ان ان» في 8 حزيران: «كونها مهد الإسلام وهي من يقود العالمين العربي والإسلامي، امام السعودية مسؤولية فريدة لمساعدة الدول في المنطقة، ومساندتها في تطورها التدريجي نحو أنظمة سياسية أكثر استدامة وتجنيبها الانهيار والفوضى».
«ادّعاء الزعامة» هذا (والتعبير لتابلر وأندرسون) هو السبب وراء «رغبة السعودية في توسيع دائرة مجلس التعاون الخليجي، لتشمل المغرب والأردن، كخطوة تهدف إلى تفعيل دورها القيادي الجديد الذي تسعى لاكتسابه في مواجهة الدور التركي المتنامي»، على حد قول الكاتب لدى مؤسسة «ميديا بريما» البريطانية فرج الكعلوك.
المحلل في «مجموعة أوراسيا» ومقرها واشنطن ايهم كامل لا يوافق على هذا الطرح. ويقول لـ«السفير» إن «السعوديين باتوا أكثر حزماً إقليمياً، فقط لا غير، وهم سيواصلون على هذا النحو خصوصا بعد سقوط حسني مبارك»، لكنهم «كانوا حذرين في رسم سياستهم حيال سوريا خشية أن تؤدي مواجهة أكبر مع دمشق إلى اضطراب أكبر في المنطقة».
ويوضح أنه «خلال الأشهر القليلة الماضية كان من الصعب التوصل إلى توافق بين فروع آل سعود المختلفة حول كيفية التعامل مع الأزمة السورية». ذلك لا يعني أن «هناك توافقاً تاماً حالياً، أقله الآن. لكن الأكيد، هناك تحول واضح في الوجهة».
كل الأسباب تشير إلى..إيران!
في المختصر، «للأمر علاقة باحتواء النفوذ الإيراني أكثر منه بسط زعامة سعودية»، يقول ايهم كامل، مستدركاً «لا أعتقد أن آل سعود تخلوا كلياً عن الأسد أو اتخذوا قراراً نهائياً بمواجهة النفوذ الإيراني في سوريا.. لكننا ننحو في هذا الاتجاه».
من جهته، قال بلاك لـ«السفير» إن «النظامين السعودي والسوري لطالما كانا على طرفي نقيض، بسبب النفور المتبادل بين المملكة المحافظة والجمهورية العلمانية، وكذلك بسبب العلاقة الاستراتيجية بين سوريا وإيران».
وطهران بالنسبة للملك هي «رأس الثعبان»، الذي طلب من الأميركيين «قطعه»، وفق وثيقة تعود للـ2008، سربها «ويكيليكس».
وروى الباحث في «معهد واشنطن» جون هانا، في تقرير نشرته مجلة «فورين بوليسي» الأميركية في 9 آب، أن «مسؤولاً سعودياً رفيعاً قال له «قبل أسابيع» إنه منذ بداية الثورة السورية، اعتبر الملك أن تغييراً للنظام سيكون مفيدا للمصالح السعودية، وخصوصاً في ما يتعلق بالتهديد الإيراني، باعتبار أن «الملك يعرف أنه، عدا عن انهيار الجمهورية الإسلامية نفسها، لا شيء يمكنه أن يضعف إيران أكثر من خسارتها لسوريا».
أما الكاتب في «الغارديان» براين ويتاكر فرأى أنه «ليس للرياض مصلحة في تسويق الديموقراطية وحقوق الانسان في سوريا، بل مصلحتها في تسويق نفوذها السني ومحاربة النفوذ الشيعي الإيراني».
المواجهة.. بالأفيون والذهب!
بعد سقوط مبارك الحليف العتيد في العداء لإيران، وفق معادلة «عدو عدوي صديقي»، ومع اندلاع الثورة في البحرين والموقف الإيراني منها، ووسط خشيتها من أن تسد طهران الفراغ الذي سيحدثه انسحاب الأميركيين من العراق في نهاية 2011، غيرت المملكة استراتيجيتها، وما كانت تفعله همساً بات جهراً. في أيار الماضي، سعت إلى «حشد دول في الشرق الأوسط وآسيا للانضمام إلى تحالف ضد إيران، يضم باكستان وماليزيا وأندونيسيا ودول آسيا الوسطى».
باسم «أفيون الشعوب» او الدين، جرت استمالة هذه الدول، بهدف حملها على «المساعدة في إخماد ثورة شيعية في البحرين»، كما ذكرت صحيفة «وول ستريت جورنال».
كما استعملت الرياض «الذهب الأسود» سلاحاً. على الملأ، قال الأمير تركي الفيصل في خطاب في قاعدة القوات الجوية الملكية في 8 حزيران الماضي إن «خاصرة إيران الضعيفة هي قطاع النفط. وهنا يمكننا القيام بالكثير، للضغط على الحكومة الإيرانية» للإذعان للمجتمع الدولي.
وقال الباحث الإيراني في معهد «فورين بوليسي إن فوكس» الأميركي جواد حيدريان إنه في محاولتها «لعزل إيران، قدّمت السعودية لأبرز شركاء إيران، وتحديداً الصين، عروضاً سخية مضادة في مجال الطاقة. فخلال زيارات مسؤولين أميركيين إلى دول الخليج، خلال شباط 2010، ناقش الجانبان كيفية تعويض الخسارات التي قد تتكبدها الصين في حال غزو إيران».
من جهتها، روت مجلة «بيزنس ويك» في تقرير نشر في 5 آب، كيف تدخلت السعودية «لسد الفراغ الذي خلفته إيران، بإبرام اتفاق لبيع كميات إضافية من الخام للهند (ثلاثة ملايين برميل) بعدما خفضت طهران إمداداتها لشركات التكرير الهندية، بسبب خلاف على المدفوعات (خمسة مليارات دولار)»، بعدما فشلت نيودلهي في الالتفاف حول العقوبات المفروضة على طهران والتي تجعل تمويل الصفقات المبرمة معها أمراً صعباً.
ومع تجاوز سعر الخام 100 دولار للبرميل تكون السعودية قد ظفرت بحصة قيمتها 300 مليون دولار من نصيب إيران في السوق الهندية.
ليس هذا فحسب، فقد أعلنت المملكة أنها «سترفع إمداداتها» في سوق النفط العالمي، بعدما فشلت الدول الأعضاء في منظمة «أوبك»، في اجتماع عقد في تموز، في التوصل إلى اتفاق لزيادة الإمدادات بشكل جماعي.
زيادة الإمدادات السعوديّة يعني أسعار نفط أدنى، وهنا يكمن «كعب أخيل إيران»، والتعبير للكاتب الإيراني حسين عسكري، الذي عمل مستشاراً لوزارة المالية السعودية، والذي دعا واشنطن، في مقال نشرته دورية «ناشيونال انترست» في 29 تموز إلى «إقناع مصدري النفط، وخاصة السعودية، إلى زيادة صادراتها بغية خفض أسعار النفط» وتوجيه «ضربة موجعة» لإيران.
… والمواجهة في سوريا
أضف إلى هذه الأسلحة، بات لدى المملكة «ساحة معركة» جديدة لتحارب فيها إيران: سوريا. وفي تقرير صدر في 5 آب، رأى معهد «ستارتفور» الاستخباراتي الأميركي، أنه «فيما لم تبحث الرياض على نحو فاعل إسقاط النظام السوري، فإن الأزمة السورية الراهنة تمثل فرصة للسعودية لتقلب الموازين، وخاصة فيما يتعلق بالمكاسب التي حققتها إيران منذ 2003».
وتشكل سوريا المتحالفة مع إيران، برأي «ستراتفور»، موطئ قدم الجمهورية الإسلامية في العالم العربي، وهي «تخدم كقناة تمكنت إيران عبرها من تحويل حزب الله إلى قوة عسكرية أساسية، تمكنت مؤخراً من تقويض نفوذ الرياض هناك (سقوط حكومة سعد الحريري). كما أن العلاقات الوثيقة بين طهران ودمشق سمحت أيضاً للإيرانيين بتقديم أنفسهم على أنهم حماة القضية الفلسطينية.. وجزء كبير من التمويل الإيراني لحماس والجهاد الإسلامي، المتمركزتين في العاصمة السورية، يمر عبر دمشق».
ومع «سقوط العراق في الفلك الإيراني بعد الغزو الأميركي في 2003، شعر السعوديون بكثير من القلق بشأن صعود محور الشيعة الإقليمي الممتد من إيران مروراً بالعراق وسوريا وصولاً إلى لبنان».
وإلى أن اكتسحت موجة الثورات الشعبية العالم العربي، كان السعوديون يفتقرون الى أي وسيلة فاعلة لتطويق النفوذ الإيراني المتنامي على طول محيطهم الشمالي. والآن مع «الاضطراب في سوريا، بات لدى السعوديين فرصة محتملة لتقويض النفوذ الإيراني»، وفقا لـ«ستراتفور».
ورأي المعهد الأميركي أن «حكومة سورية يقودها السنة، تحل مكان نظام الأقلية العلوية، تقوض بشدة قدرة إيران على التدخل في لبنان عبر قطعها عن حزب الله، ما يسمح للسعودية بأن تعيد إحياء نفوذها هناك. كما سيكون بإمكان السعوديين أيضاً ان يضعفوا قدرة طهران على استغلال النزاع الفلسطيني الاسرائيلي. وأكثر من ذلك، ونظراً الى طول الحدود العراقية السورية، فإن سوريا موالية للسعودية قد تخدم كأداة لتطويق النفوذ الإيراني في العراق» خاصة بعد انسحاب الأميركيين في نهاية 2011.
الضغط بالمال والاقتصاد
قال الباحث في «أوراسيا» أيهم كامل لـ«السفير» إن «الضغط السعودي، ومعه الخليجي، على النظام السوري لن يؤدي إلى سقوطه فوراً، لكن الهدف منه هو الضغط على النخب الاقتصادية والطبقات العاملة في حلب ودمشق، خصوصاً، لكي يعيدوا النظر في مساندتهم للنظام».
وبدوره، قال الباحث في مركز «دوتشي ويلي» الألماني مايكل لاودرز لـ«السفير» إنه «من دون دعم مالي، لن تتمكن سوريا من تلبية احتياجاتها. اقتصاد البلاد على حافة الانهيار. ودمشق تحتاج بشدة إلى دعم السعوديين. وعليه، لدى هؤلاء العديد من الفرص للضغط على سوريا».
وكان وزير المالية السوري السابق محمد الحسين قد وصف السعودية، في تموز 2010، بأنها «أهم شريك اقتصادي لسوريا استثمارياً وتجارياً، وإن حجم التبادل التجاري بين البلدين وصل إلى ملياري دولار، ويتوقع أن يتضاعف في غضون السنوات المقبلة».
لدى «ستراتفور» «نصيحة» للسعودية «التي لا تزال تزن خياراتها، ولكنها تعلم ان فرصة قلب القوة الإيرانية المتنامية في قلب العالم العربي لا يمكن ان تسنح مرة اخرى قريباً، مفادها «اذا ما قرر السعوديون ان يسعوا بشكل فاعل الى سقوط النظام السوري، فإن عليهم أن يضعوا مواردهم الضخمة لتحقيق الهدف».
المملكة تعود إلى الحظيرة الأميركية؟
في عام 1945، التقى الرئيس الأميركي فرانكلين روزفلت بالملك سعود في قناة السويس. وعد الأميركيون بتأمين حماية للسعوديين، لقاء النفط و«النفوذ في العالم الإسلامي». (المسؤول السابق في الاستخبارات الأميركية بروس ريدل، آذار 2011).
مذاك كما قبل ذاك، وباستثناء الحظر على النفط الذي فرضه الملك فيصل في 1973 على الولايات المتحدة «والدول الداعمة لإسرائيل» رداً على الحرب الإسرائيلية آنذاك، والعلاقات بين البلدين تسير كما خطط لها الأميركيون. حتى هجمات 11 أيلول، التي قيل إن 15 من منفذيها الـ19 كانوا سعوديين، لم تحل دون تواصل العلاقات بين الدولتين.
وعندما تخلى الأميركيون عن مبارك في مطلع العام، تحدثت «نيويورك تايمز»، عن اتصال هاتفي انتهى «بخلاف حاد» بين الملك والرئيس باراك أوباما، حيث شعر الأول أن الأميركيين «عاجزون عن حماية حلفائهم» (بروس ريدل)، فيما ذهب مدير السياسة الخارجية في مؤسسة «بروكينغز» البحثية الأميركية مارتن انديك، الذي عمل مرتين سفيراً للولايات المتحدة لدى إسرائيل إلى حد القول إن الملك «يرى في أوباما، في الأزمة الحالية، تهديداً لأمن المملكة الداخلي».
ثم كانت الأزمة السورية. «هادن» السعوديون الأميركيين، قال الكاتب في «الغارديان» إيان بلاك، لـ«السفير»، موضحاً أن خطاب الملك جاء «تملقاً للأميركيين، ولجعل حياة نظام الأسد أصعب».
عندما سأل الباحث في «معهد واشنطن» جون هانا، المسؤول السعودي الرفيع عن سبب عدم تحريك المملكة ساكناً حيال دمشق قبل أسابيع، رغم قناعة الملك حينها بأن تغييراً للنظام سيكون مفيداً للمصالح السعودية، ألقى المسؤول باللوم على «الغموض الذي يكتنف السياسة الأميركية»، ملمحاًَ بذلك إلى الشرخ الذي أحدثه سقوط مبارك في العلاقة بين الرياض وواشنطن.
وأضاف المسؤول أن السعوديين «أحجموا عن الإجهاز على المحور الإيراني السوري من دون ضمانات من الأميركيين بأنهم يصممون على رؤية الأسد خارج» الحكم. فحتى بدايات تموز الماضي، لم يكن لدى السعوديين «أي فكرة عن النتيجة التي يريدها أوباما في سوريا، وما هي استراتيجيته لبلوغ هذه النتيجة»… فهل باتوا يعلمون؟
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August 20th, 2011, 12:36 pm
Revlon said:
The Baath party is changing carreer.
It is going into business to become Baath incrorporated!
I just wonder what rescources have they got that could finance the building of the baath party university with ten colleges?
It is following the foot steps the Army, who went long ago into the business of farming and private and public real estate development!
القيادة القطرية لحزب البعث تؤسس جامعة خاصة من 10 كليات باسم
( جامعة الشام)
– 2011/08/20نشر فى: أخبار محلية
(خاص – داماس بوست – علي محمود جديد)
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/23834
August 20th, 2011, 12:38 pm
ann said:
Analysis: Diplomatic woes pile up for isolated Israel
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/08/20/uk-israel-egypt-relations-idUKTRE77J1K020110820
JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israel was expecting a diplomatic tsunami to strike in September, but the problems have come sooner than expected, leaving it ever more isolated in the Middle East.
Egypt’s decision Saturday to recall its envoy from Israel will remove the last Arab ambassador from Tel Aviv, further undermining a relationship that had started to buckle following the ousting of President Hosni Mubarak in February.
Tensions flared after a cross-border attack earlier this week, with Cairo accusing Israeli forces of shooting dead three Egyptian security guards during gunbattles with Palestinian militants who had earlier ambushed and killed eight Israelis.
The row comes days after renewed verbal barbs between Israel and its one-time ally Turkey, which is still fuming over the deaths of nine Turks last year when Israeli commandos stormed a boat trying to break the blockade of Gaza.
Turkey is demanding an apology for the incident, something Israel is refusing to provide. Now Egypt wants to hear “sorry” too, but all it is getting so far are offers of “regret.”
“Egypt is trying to re-educate Israel and is following the same line as the Turkish foreign policy,” said Uzi Rabi, director of the Moshe Dayan Centre for Middle Eastern studies in Tel Aviv.
Israel’s international standing faces a fresh assault next month as Palestinian leaders from the West Bank seek full membership of the United Nations in a General Assembly vote that will expose decades of rancour.
“Israel needs to learn that it is facing a different Middle East,” Rabi told Reuters Television.
PRESERVING THE PACTS
Israel’s 1979 peace deal with Egypt has been the cornerstone of its Middle East policy, providing much-needed stability to its southern flanks and enabling successive leaders to maintain the status quo in the unresolved Palestinian conflict.
Egypt’s new military leaders are highly unlikely to tear up the Camp David accords, which brought Cairo enhanced security stability and also gave it access to generous Western funds.
But after an uprising among a populace that is overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian, the military has already shown itself to be more open to the Islamist Hamas group that governs the Gaza enclave and more assertive when it comes to dealing with Israel.
“Israel must be aware that the days when it kills our children without getting a strong, appropriate response are gone for ever,” Amr Moussa, a former Egyptian foreign minister and ex-Arab League chief, said on his Twitter feed.
In the heady days following the Egyptian peace deal, which eventually opened the way for treaties with other Arab states such as Jordan and Morocco, many Israelis hoped that they would find partners to forge a reconstructed and secure Middle East.
Those dreams have long vanished and some analysts believe Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his right-wing government have simply decided to by-pass the region and build alliances elsewhere.
“They don’t expect peace with the Palestinians. They are giving up on the Middle East. They are focussing on eastern Europe,” said Alon Liel, former director-general of the Israeli foreign ministry.
“If you think like that then you can’t expect good relations with your neighbours,” he told Reuters.
As ties with regional neighbours sour, relations with some of Israel’s closest allies, including the United States, are not as rosy as they once were.
Western diplomats have pinned much of the blame for stalled Palestinian peace talks on Israel, with Washington and European capitals roundly condemning a spurt of recent approvals for settlement building in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.
While the United States has said it will side with Israel in the impending showdown in the United Nations, a big majority of U.N. members are likely to back the Palestinians.
“The real wake-up call will come in September. The Palestinians are headed towards a diplomatic Intifada, not a military Intifada,” Liel said, seeing diplomacy rather than street violence as the main threat for Israel.
August 20th, 2011, 12:42 pm
jad said:
ANN,
I just read on twitter that the Egyptian government denied that they will withdraw the ambassador. They claim that the news was just a DRAFT circulated by mistake and they take it down from the foreign ministry’s website.
August 20th, 2011, 12:46 pm
ann said:
Iraqi Politicians Condemn Turkish Bombing Of Iraqi Kurds
http://www.rferl.org/content/iraq_turkey_air_strikes_kurds/24302813.html
August 20, 2011
Iraqi Politicians Condemn Turkish Bombing Of Iraqi Kurds
BAGHDAD — Iraqi politicians in Baghdad are joining Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) officials in condemning three days of Turkish air strikes on Kurdish rebel bases that have hit border villages in Iraq, RFE/RL’s Radio Free Iraq reports.
KRG spokesman Kawa Mahmud told RFI on August 19 that the Turkish bombardment “is a violation of Iraq’s sovereignty, the norms of international law, and the UN charter.”
Mahmud said the attacks “have resulted in peaceful villages being depopulated as their inhabitants flee the bombings.”
He added that “the KRG calls for bringing an end to these incursions by diplomatic means — not out of weakness but because we want strong ties with our neighbors based on cooperation and peaceful coexistence.”
Adil Barwari, an adviser to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki on relations with the Kurdish autonomous region, told RFI that “there is a tripartite committee of Iraq, Turkey, and the U.S. military to deal with the [Kurdish Workers’ Party (PKK)] issue, which makes calls for Iraq to complain to the UN about Turkish air strikes irrelevant as the PKK is generally viewed by the international community as a terrorist organization.”
Barwari said the solution lies in Turkey itself, which should find a way to resolve the PKK problem.
Hussein al-Asadi, a member of Maliki’s parliamentary bloc the National Alliance, told RFI that “Turkish and Iranian bombing of Iraqi territory is aggression against Iraq’s sovereignty notwithstanding the fact that it is restricted to the Kurdish region because Iraq’s security is indivisible.”
Haider al-Mulla, a spokesman for former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi’s parliamentary bloc Al-Iraqiyah, told RFI that “Iraq over the past eight years has been paying a heavy price and, as a consequence, [has other countries] meddling in its internal affairs and [making] crossborder attacks against its territory.”
Al-Mulla said “a firm stance is required from the government, backed by all [parliamentary] factions, for an end to these enchroachments.”
A PKK spokesman, Duzdar Hammu, told RFI that “the latest round of Turkish air strikes started August 18 continued August 19 focusing on the Qandil Mountains and Zab.”
Turkish political analyst Mustafa Dhia told RFI that the Turkish offensive “may check PKK infiltration across Iraq’s porous borders with Turkey for some time but, in the long term, there is no military solution to this problem.”
Dhia said “the Turkish government has a whole package of economic and social measures to solve the Kurdish question by peaceful means but it has to prepare the ground for it by stemming PKK violence.”
August 20th, 2011, 12:50 pm
jad said:
عن ضرورة العمل الحزبي
by Bassem Khouzam
عاش السّوريون كما كلّ المواطنين في بلدان العالم الثّالث بعيدين أو مبعدين عن العمل الحزبي، فيما تمّ تفريغ هذا العمل من أهدافه وحريّة تحرّكه في البلدان ذات أنظمة الحكم الشّمولي، ويكاد يجزم المرء باستحالة جدواه في البلدان ذات الطّابع الدّيني.
كلّما ازداد البعد عن العمل الحزبي أو تفريغه من معناه، اتّسعت الهوّة بين قرارات الدولة ورغبات الشّعب ومصالحه، وقد برعت قوى كثيرة في إقصاء الناس عن العمل الحزبي بهدف مصادرة قرارها، كي لا تملك من أمرها شيئاً ويملكوه. إحدى أساليب الإقصاء عن ساحة العمل السّياسي هي ما قد نسمعه في مجتمعاتنا من بعض العبارات التي تربط تعاطي السّياسة بالخطيئة والانحراف، بالإضافة إلى منع الأحزاب وملاحقتها والضّغط عليها. حتى في الدول الغربية، هناك تقنيات للسيطرة على الشعوب في ظلّ وهم الدّيمقراطيّة الكاذب، صحيح أن هامش الحريّة والحركة أكبر، والعمل السّياسي ليس حكراً على أحد نظرياً، إلا أنّه تمّ تطوير آليّات مجتمعيّة تحصر العمل السّياسي في عائلات بعينها تنتمي إلى طبقةٍ بعينها هي طبقة الموسرين، تخدم جميعها -رغم تعدّد الأحزاب- العمالقة الاقتصاديين، يعيش معها الشعب وهم تمثيله، حتى أن القلّة من أبناء الطّبقات الوسطى والدّنيا من الذين يدخلون عالم السياسة لم يكن ذلك مقدّراً لهم لو أنّهم غرّدوا خارج السّرب، ولولا أنّهم رهنوا أنفسهم إلى إحدى التّيارات الكبرى التي يسيطر عليها رجال الاقتصاد. ورغم الدّيمقراطية الصّاخبة التي يعيشها الغرب، والألق المتطاير من حولها، بغية تسويقها وتبرير الحرب على ما يعاكسها، أي على ما يعاكس مصالح العمالقة الاقتصاديين، إلا أنّها ديمقراطية بتراء بكل معنى الكلمة، ولا يستغربنّ أحد أن يلتقي يوما مواطنا غربيّاً يشكو ذات الشكاوى التي يشكوها مواطن في بلدان العالم الثالث، لكن بالتأكيد تحت سقف الدولة ودستورها وحضارتها وقيمها، الأمر المفقود في بلدان العالم الثالث.
يعطي النّموذج اللبناني مثالاً رائعاً عن تأطير الشباب في أحزاب، رفعت وعي الجميع وإدراكَه لما حوله، ولولا اللعبة الطّائفية المصنوعة في لبنان، والتي تتم تغذيتها بشكل مستمر بالمال والصّراعات من قبل دول العالم، لما تحوّلت هذه الدّيمقراطية إلى ديمقراطية طوائف. مع ذلك، يبقى لبنان أحد أهمِّ البلدان التي تتأطّر فيها غالبيّةُ قوى المجتمع في أحزاب، وأزعم هنا أن التجربة اللبنانية متقدّمة على التجربة الغربيّة من هذه النّاحية.
العمل الحزبيّ هو انتقال بالفرد من دور المتأثر والمراقب الناقم، والمتحسّر السّلبي، إلى دور الفاعل المالك لقراره، و المشارك المؤثّر في توجّهات بلده ومناحي تطويره. هذا بحد ذاته يرفع من تقدير الفرد لذاته، ويطور وعيه، ويعلي قيم المواطنة لديه، ويجعل الفرد نقطة إشعاع فكري في محيطه، بما يعلي الوعي الجمعي. هذا بالإضافة إلى أنه يجعل جميع المتحزّبين ينحون إلى الالتقاء على قيم وطنيّة مشتركة، يحددها الدّستور غالباً، يتنافسون في ظلّها ويتسابقون أمام الجمهور إلى تحقيقها، ليصبح الفوز الانتخابي رهناً بتحقيق آمالِ الشّريحة الأوسع من الجمهور، وفي حال الفشل تمنح الثّقة لتشكيلة أحزاب أخرى في الدورات القادمة.
حتى يكون العمل الحزبيّ ناجعاً على صعيد الوطن، ولبنةً في بناءٍ ديمقراطيٍّ متفوّق حتى على الدّيمقراطيّة الغربيّة، على الأحزاب أن لا تأخذ صبغةً طائفيّة كما هي الحالة في النّموذج اللبناني، وعليها أن تحرّم التناحر المسلح فيما بينها، وأن تنأى عن أي ارتباطاتٍ خارجية وعن التحالفات مع الكتل الماليّة التي قد تعلو على مصالح المواطنين، وأن تحترم جميعاً مرجعيةً انتخابية تبتّ في الخلافات، فتقبل بالهزيمة بشرف وتفوز بتواضع.
يقال أن للدّيمقراطيةِ عيوبها أيضاً كنظام حكمٍ للمجتمعات، ولكن يبدو أنها النّظام الأكثر رواجاً، والأكثر عدالةً من النظم الأخرى عندما تطبق بشكل صحيح. الآن، الفرصة سانحة أمام السوريين ليؤمنوا بذواتهم، وينخرطوا في العمل الحزبي، مستفيدين من فسحة حريةٍ جيدة جداً، هي إحدى النّتائج الإيجابية المهمّة للأزمة الأخيرة، وفي حال قامت أحزاب واستطاعت تأطير الشعب بشكل جيد، سيكون من الممكن تعديل الدّستور وتعديل قانون الأحزاب نفسه، هذا إن بقي على شكله الحالي، وأستبعد هذا. العمل الحزبيّ، هو المنهج الأصلح للبناء ومحاربة الفساد، بدلاً من استمرار التّناحر والفوضى، ورفع منسوب الحقد وتفتيت المجتمع، وهو، أي العمل الحزبيّ، ذو طبيعةٍ تعاكس آثار مرحلة الانحدار المجتمعي الحالية، بل هو غالبا لها دواء.
أعتقد أن الطّابع العام في كل بلدان العالم، هو أنّ رجال السّياسة دمى بيد رجال الإقتصاد، ورجال الدّين دمى بيد السّاسة، ورجال الدّين يسوسون الشّعب، وعلى الشباب السوري المتنوّر الحرّ، أمل الغد، أن يكسر هذا الطّابع، لتكون سوريا، بهم ولهم، بلداً أبهى وأحلى
“غدي فرنسيس العمل الحزبي بمثابة عمادة للنضال في الشأن العام. لا بد منه، لا سبيل سواه. لكن بالتجربة اللبنانية صديقي، تكتفي الاحزاب اللادينية للأسف، والتي ترتكز على مشاريع، بالوقوف خلف الاحلاف السياسية/طائفية…لا يمكن ابداً أن تعتبر الحياة الحزبية في لبنان نموذج عن نجاح، قد تطورت ربما على صعيد العدد، لكنها أمثولة عما يجب الإبتعاد عنه.”
August 20th, 2011, 12:50 pm
Revlon said:
Bodies of four of the the ambushed and martyred members of the FSA were recovered.
They were executed by Jr’Army and their bodies set on fire.
20 8 Ar Rastan, Homs أوغاريت الرستن حمص شهداء من الجيش انشقو وتم قتلهم وذلك بحرقهم , مقطع مؤلم
August 20th, 2011, 12:51 pm
Mango said:
Freemasons were behind every revolution in the past and they are behind so called arab revollution
Freemasonry Arab plays Does a role in the revolutions of the current Arab Spring
Message from Grand Master of the Grand Arab Orient Global Ecumenical Jean-Marc Aractingi:
Freemasonry Arabic she plays a role in the revolutions of the current Arab Spring?
http://economicsnewspaper.com/economics/freemasonry-arabic-she-plays-a-role-in-the-revolutions-of-the-current-arab-spring-24112.html
August 20th, 2011, 12:54 pm
tara said:
The regime is stealing bodies of martyrs from the hospitals to use them in fabrication similar to throwing bodies in Alassi river and accuse the demonstrators.
August 20th, 2011, 1:13 pm
N.Z. said:
Freemasons went to Dera’a and tortured the youth.
Freemasons force you to chant for bashar, or face torture and humiliation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ed5X2yCAI4Q
Freemasons are the embodiment of Qadaffi, Bashar and Saleh.
August 20th, 2011, 1:17 pm
Revlon said:
Debriefing by Officer Mohamamd Yunso on three separate operations of the FSA in defense of civilians in Homs and AlBukamal.
7maza AlKhateeb phalange destroyed two armored vehicles in Homs 18 August
Allahu Akbar phalange in AlBukamal defended demonstrators and thwarted an attempt by thugs to loote the gold market
تقرير الجيش السوري الحر عن بعض عملياته 18رمضان
August 20th, 2011, 1:17 pm
jad said:
Why they’ve been killed?
Because they’ve been busy attacking the army ‘peacefully’ with ‘flowers’ for the whole day yesterday, they even admit destroying 7 tanks 10 hours ago on their own FB site and they are threatening to kill thousand more, yet some people keep denying the existing of armed struggle:
كتيبة ضباط خالد بن الوليد
صباح الخير ياشرفاء
أبشركم
تم تدمير سبع مدرعات
لكلاب الأسد بابا عمر
الله أكبر الله أكبر
10 hours ago via mobile · Share
كتيبة ضباط خالد بن الوليد
أنتظرو الرد ياكلاب الأسد
قسمن لنقتل الألف ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
about an hour ago via mobile · Share
https://www.facebook.com/pages/%D9%83%D8%AA%D9%8A%D8%A8%D8%A9-%D8%B6%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B7-%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF-%D8%A8%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%AF/256236484405891
August 20th, 2011, 1:19 pm
uzair8 said:
If Gaddafi falls it means 2 things for Syria.
1. Attention will turn on Assad regime.
2. Moussa Ibrahim will be available and may be offered a job by the Assad regime. He would fit right in. Especially on State Tv and SANA.
August 20th, 2011, 1:40 pm
Revlon said:
51. Dear jad,
You said:
Why they’ve been killed?
Because they’ve been busy attacking the army ‘peacefully’ with ‘flowers’ for the whole day yesterday, they even admit destroying 7 tanks 10 hours ago on their own FB site and they are threatening to kill thousand more, yet some people keep denying the existing of armed struggle”
– The Syrian revolution is and has been a peaceful movement. Peaceful activism is central to its mission to effecting a democratic change.
– The regime has failed to produce a single credible evidence in support of the five months old claim of connspiracy, and then fable of thousands of terrorists roaming the streets.
– The regime’s response to the demonstrations was clearly outlined by no one else but Jr; Wa2dulFitnah and Fintnah is worse than killing.
It was clearly detailed in the leaked General Mukhabarat directive.
It has been amply demonstrated in the thousands of YouTube videos and the hundreds of statements of independantly interviewed witnesses.
– The martyrs of the FSA are army regulars, who decided to sacrifice in defense of their unarmed brethern, instead of lining up with Jr’s merceneries.
It is a shame that you have take a cheap shot like this one, and equate the sacrifice of heroes who defend civilians against cowered army forces with “armed struggle”.
August 20th, 2011, 1:41 pm
jad said:
Revlon
“It is a shame that you have take a cheap shot like this one, and equate heroes who defend civilians with cowered army forces.”
In my reply I didn’t write a word about the protesters, I was replying to your cry of soldiers being attacked and killed as if they were peaceful and I showed you by their own words that they weren’t peaceful they were fighting using guns to kill other and threatening of killing more, so the result of such armed struggle can’t be of a surprise for you or any body to come back and start playing the victim, you use armed you know what to expect.
In case you don’t know the soldiers of Khaled Idb Alwaleed are the ones responsible for kidnapping and killing the three guys last month in Homs starting the sectarian troubles there.
So the shame is on you to support violence that will kill all of us and destroy our country instead of keeping on calling for the peaceful struggle that everybody is supporting.
August 20th, 2011, 1:57 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
SAME LAME COMEDY WRITING SCHOOL
@ 15
You’r having a hissy fit?, arent you?…
Parliamentarians may not hold executive, diplomatic, or judicial posts. (5th grade civics textbook)
There is one exception though, but to know it, one needs to have a 6th grade education. Rats can only study until 5th grade. So you’re out of luck, this rat can’t help you.
Also, how can I dream of taking over the tech portfolio when we have Besho X-BOX and the founder of the Syrian Informatics Society (AKA Syrian Electronic Army, AKA those who needed the Iranians and Chinese to teach them hacking and the best they could do was to hack into an unofficial wedding page made up by a poor lad)
GREEN vs RED
Amir @ 36
TARA is a woman; the mehebbak gang don’t like women, especially independent ones. They just like to talk about the suffering of women in KSA. Pretty much like when they kill Palestinians, and hijack their decisions, but still like to talk about their suffering under Israeli occupation. As hypocrites, they are masters in taking good legitimate causes and making a farce out of them.
EMPERIAL POWERS
OTW
Haven’t you heard, the FREEMASONS just joined the conspiracy against Bashar. Better update that list now.
August 20th, 2011, 1:58 pm
Revlon said:
Devastated, mourning mother of Martyr Firas Bu7laq, gives him a final kiss good bye!
Homs, Funeral August 20th 2011
Al fati7a upon his soul,
May God bless his family with solace, and empower them with patience.
الشهيد البطل فراس بحلاق حمص الخالدية 20 رمضان
August 20th, 2011, 2:01 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
I found this article in Le Monde written by a French student who was living in Damascus and just left to France.
http://syrie.blog.lemonde.fr/2011/08/19/retour-de-syrie-1-quand-damas-seveillera%E2%80%A6/#comment-1363
May be an independent witness.
August 20th, 2011, 2:04 pm
jad said:
This ugly power struggle is destroying our society and killing our youth not our regime, we need to have a real dialogue between all sides, otherwise the civil war or new occupation, it’s getting uglier with every death of any Syrian:
جنازة أحمد كانت طائفيه بأمتياز ..بس لا حدا يسامحنا
by Nedal Ali Thabt
كنت قاعد عالفيس بوك …الصبح …قبل ما أكل ..و قبل ما قول صباح الخير لحدا …متل كل يوم بأجازتي …عم أسمع فيروز … و أنا الصبح عادة
بكون كرهان حالي ..و مش طايق أحكي كلمه ..
واحد من شباب ضيعتنا …حكي معي عالشات ..
أحمد أستشهد
ما صدقت أنتظرت لحد ما فاق أخوي ..و خليتوا يحكي مع صديق بالضيعه …صديقو قلو أنو ما مات ..بس متصاوب و موجود بمشفى تشرين العسكري
أنا أرتحت شوي …و بصراحه بحلول المسى كنت تقريبا حاولت أنسى الموضوع..لأنو كان بدي أنسى
تاني يوم الصبح …تأكد الخبر …أحمد أستشهد …و جثمانو رح يجي من مشفى تشرين على مشفى بانياس نفس اليوم ..
ما بعرف شو صرلي …حسيت كأنو روحي أنقلبت …و صار وجهي سخن متل النار …وقفت و طلعت عالبرندا …و صرت أتمشى ..و أتنفس بعمق مشان أهدى …بس عيوني غبشو ..و صرت شوف خيوط ورديه معلقه بالهوا ..
أخدت سياره و طلعت عالضيعه …
وصلنا على مفرق حريصون …كان فيه عالم كتيييييييييير …ناطرين قدام المحلات …ناس على موتورات …و ناس مشي …صبايا موظفات …وشباب مزارعين …و كتير من ولاد ضيعتنا و ولاد حريصون ..و القلوع …و من هديك المناطق …سرافيس ..وسيارات نص نقل ..فيها مراهقين لابسين خلع خضرا على راسهن …و نسوان قديمه ..ماسكه ركبها بأيديها ..وجهها مجعلك متل تضاريس خريطه جغرافيا ..
المحلات مسكره …و صحابها قاعدين قدام محلاتهن ..راسهن بين أيديهن و عم يطلعوا بالأرض ..و يفركشوا البحص و يرسموا بالرمل ..و كلو ناطر …
ما حدا عرفني …غير شبين من ضيعتنا…و لأني كنت حامل كاميرا صاروا كل الناس يطلعولي بأستغراب …و كان فيه عساكر …من ولاد المنطقه …ضباط صغار ملازمين و مساعدين و غيروا …لابسين اللبس العسكري و واقفين بنص الطريق ناطرين سيارة الأسعاف ..السيارات عم تحاول تمر ..و عم تزمر بس الناس ما عم ترد ..كأنو من السخافه تمر سياره من هالمحل
ضلت سيارة الأسعاف شي ساعه و نص لحد ما وصلت …كل ما كانت توصل على مفرق …على ضيعه …يوقفوها الناس و يمشو وراها …كل ما كانت تمرق جنب بيت …يرموا عليها الرز..و يطلعوا بالبلور الوراني للسياره … و الولاد يتمسحوا فيها …و ياخدوا غصن من كليل الغار المعلق ورا
حسيت أنو الزفت عامل عزا …و الزيتون عامل عزا ….و الضيعه عامله عزا …حست أنو الله نفسو زعلان على أحمد..و أنو بعد شوي العشب البري و الشجر رح يطلع بالجنازه …و السما كان شكلها غريب ..لا سما صيف ولا سما شتي ..و مع أنو ما في ولا غيمه بس مدري وين كانت الشمس لأنو بين كأنو ليل..
وصلت السياره و كان فيه وراها بلاوي سيارات و موتورات من بانياس لحريصون …طلعت بالسياره مع الشباب اللي من ضيعتنا …و مشينا أول شي مشان صور الجنازه ورانا …وصلنا عالضيعه قبل الجنازه بكتير لأنو سيارة الأسعاف علقت بالزحمه ورانا عمفرق الضيعه الضيق …و نزلنا من السياره قدام بيت أحمد ..
قدام البيت .. كان فيه ختايره لابسين طرح بيض و صبايا لابسين طرح سود و حاملين سلات زهر و رز..أم أحمد و خواتو البنات ..و عماتو و خالاتو و بنات عمو و بنت كان عأساس يخطبها …و عم يبكوا …عيونن فاضيه متل الطريق …وكلن ناطرين أحمد
و شباب الضيعه كانوا واقفين قبال البيت و عم يحكوا …
واحد عم يقول ” البطل قتل تلاته من الكلاب ..بس مثلوا بجثته ولاد الحرام ..”
” شفتن عالتلفزيون ؟ …قال قاصص شعرو متل العلويين ….كيف بيقصوا شعرن العلويين بتعرف ؟ ”
طلعنا أنا و الشباب على بيت عالي قصاد الطريق …عالسطح ..و صرنا نصور من فوق ..
وصلت سيارة الأسعاف
أم أحمد كانوا ساندينها الصبايا …صارت تنادي
” الليله عرسك يا أحمد …و الليله عرسك يا أحمد …”
صوتها كان عم يغص …و كل ما كانت تغص كانت الناس تغرق بالبكي لحد ما ينقطع نفسها .و بعدين كانت تقول ” الليله عرسك يا قرفيص و الليله عرسك يا قرفيص …و دفعتي دينك يا قرفيص ”
بعدين أم أحمد قالت : “يا جماعه أنا بعرف العريس بيطلعلوا زلغوطه و أنا ماني سامعه زلغوطه ”
و صارت البنات تزلغط …بس زلغوطه متل البكي … كلشي كان متل البكي …حتى الحكي العادي …كان صوت الناس عم يتهدج و هنن عم يحكوا و يطلع صوتن متل المبحوح…بحياة عمري ما حسيت هالمقدار من الحزن موجود …طلع صوت من الجامع …مدري قرأن ..مدري كمان عم يبكي …ما بعرف
وصلت السياره و نزلوا التابوت و دخلوه عالبيت و صارت الناس تهتف
” بالروح ..بالدم ..نفديك يا بشار ..”
و أنا فكرت ….هدول عن جد عم يحكوا بالروح بالدم نفديك يا بشار …مش شعار يعني …يعني ليكوا التابوت …و ليكوا الشباب … و هي الروح …و هي الدم ..ما ضل غير الفدا …و متل ما مبين ما في أسهل من الفدا …
بعدين صاروا يهتفوا ” لا أله ألا الله …و الشهيد حبيب الله …”
بس فجأه طلعت صبيه و معها علم سوريا على عصا طويله و صارت تعيط بأعلى صوتها
” …و اللي ما بدو يسمع يسمع ….كلو فدا سوريا ….كلو فدا بشار الأسد …”
هي الصبيه هيه أختو لأحمد …و اللي حكت عالموبايل و ردوا عيها المجرمين …
ضل التابوت جوا شوي …بس ما طول …سمعت أنو ما سمحوا لأمو تشوف جثمانه ..لأنو مثلوا بجثته …و شوهوا وجهه تماما بس الرجال شافوه …لما كنت ناطر عم طلع بالبيت الصغير معمر بالخفان …و مدهون وش واحد فوق تلييس خفيف …صرت فكر بالشغلات اللي كنت أقراها عالفيسبوك …تبع الأموال الطائله و البيوت الفاخره ….حسيت بحسره و ظلم مو طبيعي …و حسيت بطائفيه …و حسيت أنو حرام هيك …حسيت أني ظلمت أهلي
” ويا الله تهنى تهنى…أحمد عندك مو عنا ”
طالعوا الجثمان و نزلنا نمشي وراه …أول شي ما كان فيه كتير ناس وكنا مرتاحين ..بس طلع فيه ألاف من الناس ..على الطريق التاني للضيعه …و لما تجمعوا كلن من الجهتين ورا الجثمان …صاروا أكبر من طريق ضيعتنا الصغيره …و صارت الناس تطلع عالرصيف …و عالأراضي عالجنبين ..و صارت الأرض تعمل هزه غريبه ..متل نبض بمجرد ما تحط رجلك…و الصوت صار يحمل بعضو ..بطل تعرف صوتك من صوت غيرك..
“شهيد ورا شهيد …غير الأسد ما منريد ”
بالساحه قدام الجامع حطوا الجثمان عالأرض …و وقفوا صف واحد ورا بعض ليصلوا عليه …و
أنا وقفت من الجهه التانيه …أنو أنا ما بصلي …فلح صور أحسن …هون لاحظت عدد ضباط الأمن و الجيش اللي كان موجود …
كان فيه عدد فوق الطبيعي من العسكريين …ضباط من فرقة أحمد …و ضباط من ولاد الضيعه …و من الضيع اللي حواليها …و ضباط متقاعدين طالعوا بدلاتهن العسكريه مشان يحضروا الجنازه …كأنها مراسم وطنيه …و شو بدو أكتر من هيك الوطن …و هي أحمد راح مشان الوطن …
شفت أبوي هونيك …و صار يقلي متل الهذيان..” شايف الأبطال …شايف البطل … كلن أبطال…صور صور …ورجي هالشباب شو عم يصير …مو زهرة شباب هالبلد هدول ..”
كنت بدي قلوا بس ليربي دقنو و ينزل عالجامع بيصير زهره …هلا هوه مجرد “.عنصر أمن.”
بنفس اليوم دفنت اللادقيه أكتر من 80 شهيد بنفس اليوم …معظمهن من الضيع …بمقبرة الشهداء ببسنادا …تاني أسبوع ..أكتر من 20 شهيد بريف طرطوس …
و بعد ما خلصت الصلاه رفعوا الجثمان كملوا فيه عالمقبره جنب الساحه …و كل الشباب نزلت تساعد بالدفن …عشرات الشباب دفعه وحده حتى القبر أتملى …و الجثمان خف بين الأيادي ..أنا طفيت الكاميرا و مديت أيدي …و مسكت التابوت من طرفه و نزلت معن عالأرض ..
و كأني دفنت كل شكي و كل أيماني دفعه وحده …
شكي بنوع التهديد اللي عم يواجه هالبلد …و أيماني بوحدة قلب شعبها …دفتهن معه ..و كل يوم عم أدفنهن …كلشي بعرفوا عن سوريا دفنتو مع أحمد ..و قبله كمان كتير …ماتو و أتنسو ..و صاروا حديث جانبي أو خبر عاجل
رجعنا أنا و أبوي من الساحه بأتجاه السياره …جنب دكان الضيعه شفنا عماتي و ستي “عمة أبوي ” قاعدين عالكراسي …سلمت عليهن و صاروا يباوسوني و يحضنوني كأني راجع من الحرب ..
ستي حبابه قالتلي ” أساتك متسافر حبيبي ؟ ”
قلتلها ” أي والله يا تاتا ”
” لبقى تسافر وا نور عيني …لبقى تسافر …مانك شايفهن كيف ميدبحونا”
أذا كلكن متسافروا مين بدو يدافع عنا ؟ ”
تذكرت مشهد الضباط واقفين صف واحد قدام الجثمان …تذكرت أنو صلوا بالسلاح …المسدس بالحزام للضباط…و الروسيه على الجنب للعساكر ..و قلت
” لا تخافي تيتا …فيه رجال تدافع”
رجال ما بتخاف تموت بأيد اللي كان أخ ..و صديق ..بأيد واحد مسمي حالو سوري
رسالتي لكل الشباب ..لكل العالم كمان …سهله و بسيطه …يمكن أنتو معكن حق …يمكن لأ …مش مهم …من زمان بطل فيه معنى أصلا للجدال ..رسالتي أنو نحنا رج نحارب …رح نحارب حتى نخلص أو تخلصوا …و بعدين كلنا رح نرتاح …بس أنو هيك تضحكوا علينا بكلام
” المواطنه و العداله …و واحد واحد ..و سلميه سلميه. ” و “لا للطائفيه ” مكتوبه على ورقة كرتون و متصوره بموبايل عالجزيره ..و شوبش خمسميه محروقه لأعلى عالم ..متل كأنو بكباريه .
ما ضل محل غير طلعوا فيه هالبسطاء …على أطراف الأوتسترادات ..بين طرطوس و اللادقيه…حاملين أعلام سوريا و عم يهتفوا للي ماتوا مشانوا أولادهن … منستقبل شهدائنا بالدفعات مش فرادي ..و مندفهنهن بهالجبل …متل ما دفنا قبلهن …أيام زمان ..و جدودهن ناطرين بالأرض ..عم يعلموا هالشعب يباسة الراس
لأهلي …و لناسي السلام …لعيلة أحمد ..ولعيلة العميد تلاوي و العقيد عبد الله السلام ..و الرحمه من خواتكن و أهلكن …وعد بالصدق و القتال ..عن ذكراهن الشريفه …بكل شارع و بكل مدينه …وعد لأخت أحمد …أذا كان أحمد فدا بشار الأسد …فأنا كمان فداه …و كل الشباب فداه ..وعد لأم أحمد ..يصير يوم أستشهاده بكل سنه عيد ..عيد منخلص فيه هالبلد من الوسخ اللي فيها
أنا و رفقات أحمد …و ولاد ضيعته هي رسالتنا ..متل ما مات أحمد نحنا بدنا نموت …بنفس التفصيل …بنفس التمثيل بجسده الطاهر …و بدنا نفس الجنازه …جنازه تلت دقايق بالضبط على التلفزيون السوري ..” السوري مش القطري ..و مش السعودي” …يا ريت تعطونا فرصه .
عاشت سوريا و تسقط جماعة الأخوان المسلمين العميله
August 20th, 2011, 2:20 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
Now that:الجيش السوري الحر is a history,the next Revlon Army will be:الجيش السوري الكر
August 20th, 2011, 2:21 pm
MM said:
This forum has been overrun by the “Syrian Electronic Army” paid for by Assad.
I have given up on it. It’s not a meaningful place to exchange views. When you realize talking to certain people is like talking to a wall, you understand where they’re coming from. Anybody working for the government has to carry on the mantra, they are forced to do so. Here’s an example, see the Syrian Ambassador being quizzed:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/08/19/ac360.syria.ambassador.cutdown.cnn?hpt=hp_mid
The claims he’s making, are delusional if he sincerely believed it. But even he doesn’t believe what he is talking about. It is clear. In the face of overwhelming evidence, they are forced to cower and repeat the same mantra as the lemmings that they are.
I have some tough questions I would like to see how you regime sympathizers answer. What’s wrong with a government that is for and by the people? Can I elect a different President, or not? Why can’t I have a voice in the type of government I want today? Why are my rights being denied in this regard? Can I demonstrate peacefully in the streets without the fear of being killed or arrested? Who are these armed men, known as “Shabiha” and why are they authorized to carry weapons in the streets? Why do most government ministers come from the Allawite sect, is their any discrimination? Ex. with respect to Messrs. Imad Moustapha, and Bashar Ja’fari in the U.S., why are they both coincidentally Allawites? Why is there over $20 Billion in President Assad’s name socked away in bank accounts throughout the globe? How was Hafez al-Assad able to make #4 on the list of the world’s Billionaires? Where did Rami Makhlouf get all his riches ($6B Est.) – out of thin air starting less than 10 years ago? Is there any coincidence that he’s related to the President?
These are only some questions that come to mind.
August 20th, 2011, 2:23 pm
Revlon said:
Waleef Zuhair Al7aidar and brother were listed as informants in Ma3arrat AlNu3man by the Revolution intelligence.
أموي مباشر #syria ◄ تنسيقية معرة النعمان : نزولا عند رغبة الاخوة في كشف اسم المخبر الذي قام بمساعدة الامن في الاعتقال البارحة وهو ( وليف زهير الحيدر ) مع الاشارة الى ان اسمه موجود ومعروف لدى الاهالي وان شقيقه (وسيم زهير الحيدر) هو مخبر ايضا ونود ان نطمئن الجميع ان المخبرين معروفين لدى اهالي المعرة واسماؤهم عندنا في قائمة ولكن (كلشي بوقتو حلو) والآن هو وقت الثورة واسقاط النظام شاكرين لكم مساهماتكم جميعا
August 20th, 2011, 2:26 pm
EHSANI2 said:
MM
For the record, bashar jaafari is a sunni from damascus. Imad moustapha’s mom is from a prominent sunni family in aleppo
August 20th, 2011, 2:33 pm
tara said:
Ehsani
Jaafari I was told is Shiaa. Am I wrong?
August 20th, 2011, 2:36 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
تنسيقه الولايات المتحده الامريكيه
نزولا عند رغبة الاخوه في معرفة اكبر فساد وثوري اخوانجي مخبرجي نعلن ان اسمه نعلن ان اسمه ريفلون هوايته تشجيع القتل والانتقام
August 20th, 2011, 2:43 pm
EHSANI2 said:
Tara,
The name gives that impression. He is a sunni. He is married to an Iranian lady who he met while on a diplomatic posting abroad
August 20th, 2011, 2:48 pm
Mango said:
Crowd psychology
look wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowd_psychology
The Psychology of Revolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E1ywBCCu8A
http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=16424
The Syrian Revolution 2011 – Lies and the Truth
http://syrianleaks.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/syrian-opposition-seek-chaos-in-syria-engrus/
August 20th, 2011, 3:09 pm
beaware said:
Media Source: President al-Assad at Syrian TV on Sunday
(Dp-news)
http://www.dp-news.com/en/detail.aspx?articleid=93838
Media source confirmed DP-News that President Bashar al-Assad will make an interview at Syrian TV which is going to be aired on Sunday. Source said that Syrian Anchor Luna al-Shebl would interview the president at First Syrian Presidential interview ever at a local media agency.
President al-Assad is expected to speak about situation in Syria and international pressure at his regime, along with reform program in country which had been announced earlier; according to the same source.
Earlier Rim Haddad, Coordinator at Syrian Information Ministry, said at leaked news online earlier on Friday that President al-Assad is expected to deliver a speech to the nation regarding the recent development at the Syrian incident.
President al-Assad delivered three speeches since the beginning of uprising against government in Syria. The first took place at Syrian Parliament, while the second was at chairing a meeting for the new Syrian Cabinet and the last was at Damascus University hall.
Anchor Luna al-Shebl used to work earlier this year for Pan-Arab satellite al-Jazeera channel, before she left and get back home as Syrian officials use to accused al-Jazeera at broadcasting “baseless and fabricated news and reports about Syria incidents.” along with other foreign biased media agencies, as officials used to claim such foreign media agencies.
Syria has been still facing mounting diplomatic pressure to end its crackdown on protests. There has been a crescendo of condemnation, not only from the world, but in particular from the region.
So far, the Syrian government has ignored the condemnations as it has justified its crackdown on the city by saying it is dealing with “terrorist” gangs. Some Foreign media agencies have been claiming that they cannot independently verify opposition or government claims because Syria has restricted international journalists from reporting inside the country.
Syria`s regime has banned most foreign media and restricted local coverage, making it impossible to get independent confirmation of the events on the ground.
Late on Saturday, State-run news agency SANA reported “President Bashar al-Assad is due to do an interview with the Syrian satellite television on Sunday in which he will discuss the current situation in Syria, the continuous steps of the reform process, the dimensions of the American and Western pressures on Syria politically and economically and Syria’s future vision in light of the current regional and international scene.”
August 20th, 2011, 3:09 pm
Tara said:
Ehsani2
I stand corrected. Thank you.
August 20th, 2011, 3:17 pm
OFF THE WALL said:
Anchor Luna al-Shebl used to work earlier this year for Pan-Arab satellite al-Jazeera channel, before she left and get back home as Syrian officials use to accused al-Jazeera at broadcasting “baseless and fabricated news and reports about Syria incidents.” along with other foreign biased media agencies, as officials used to claim such foreign media agencies.
Not true, her departure from Aljazeera had nothing to do with Aljazeera’s critical stand against this murderous regime. She left, when Qatar and the criminal regime enjoyed good relationship, and it was over a dress code argument more than two years ago. She is an opportunist, and not that great either. There were a couple of very good female anchors who also left at the same time over the same argument, their departure was Aljazeera’s loss, hers, on the other hand, did not add or subtract anything from the channel.
August 20th, 2011, 3:24 pm
beaware said:
Syrian opposition working to unify, get its act together
By CNN Senior State Department Producer Elise Labott
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/17/syrian-opposition-working-to-unify-get-its-act-together/
As international pressure against the Bashar al-Assad regime intensifies, the Syrian opposition says it has been taking steps to better organize its efforts..
…..
Both U.S. officials and activists say that although the fledgling opposition has been making impressive efforts to streamline their activities, it has its work cut out for it. They cite little coordination, either among opposition groups inside and outside Syria or within Syria itself. Additionally, they say, the opposition has little, if any, traction with young protesters on the streets.
….
Elliott Abrams, a former deputy national security adviser in the George W. Bush administration who is now at the Council on Foreign Relations, said that “given the intense oppression by the Assad regime, to ask the opposition to get itself organized and united is unfair.”
more…
August 20th, 2011, 3:24 pm
beaware said:
Syria poised to grant access to detainees: ICRC
Fri, Aug 19 2011
By Stephanie Nebehay
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/19/us-syria-redcross-idUSTRE77I4QZ20110819
GENEVA (Reuters) – Syria is on the verge of granting access for the first time to its prisons — where thousands of activists and other civilians arrested in pro-democracy protests are believed to be held — the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Friday.
In an exclusive interview with Reuters, the head of ICRC’s delegation in Syria, Marianne Gasser, said that the independent humanitarian agency was finalizing details with senior Syrian authorities on its visits to detention centers.
“We are very confident that this access will be granted. The visits could begin shortly,” Gasser said in a telephone interview from the capital Damascus. “We have never had access before.”
ICRC President Jakob Kellenberger, who went to Damascus in June as the unrest grew, won an agreement in principle for the prison visits, marking the start of a high-level dialogue on the sensitive issue, according to Gasser.
The ICRC sought access for years to Syrian prisoners but stepped up its requests when the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad first erupted in March. Gasser attributed recent progress to having gained the confidence of Syrian authorities who have given the humanitarian agency unrestricted access to violence-hit areas in recent weeks.
For prison visits, the ICRC has insisted on its standard terms, including full access to all detention centers, the right to interview detainees in private and make follow-up visits.
In exchange for its access to detainees worldwide from Gaza to Guantanamo, the ICRC’s confidential findings on the treatment of prisoners and their conditions of detention are shared only with detaining authorities.
Forces loyal to Assad opened fire to disperse protests demanding his removal on Friday despite a pledge that he had ended the crackdown on a five-month uprising in which 2,000 people have been killed, activists said.
MASS ARRESTS
More than 10,000 have been detained, often in mass arrests, rights groups and United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay have said, but the ICRC has no estimate.
“It is very difficult to have figures for the number of people killed, wounded or arrested,” said Gasser, a Swiss who leads a team of 10 foreign aid workers and 20 Syrians working closely with the Syrian Red Crescent.
U.N. human rights investigators, in a report issued on Thursday, said that the crackdown may be grounds for prosecutions for crimes against humanity at the International Criminal Court. Arrests appear to be “random and widespread” and the fate of hundreds was unknown, it said.
Some male detainees were forced to strip naked for prolonged periods in their cells, while being otherwise tortured or interrogated, according to the U.N. report, based on extensive interviews with victims and witnesses.
Civilians have been arrested in operations that aimed to collectively punish residents of cities or towns perceived by authorities as being centers of activism, the U.N. report said.
Targeted, and mass arbitrary arrests were reported in Aleppo, Damascus, Deraa, Jisr al Shughour and Latakia, it said. Witnesses told the U.N. team that school yards and sports fields had been transformed into makeshift detention areas.
Gasser voiced concern that some wounded and sick have been prevented from receiving treatment, either out of fear of approaching hospitals or due to insecurity. “For the ICRC, all sick and wounded must be treated without delay,” she said, speaking in French.
The ICRC now has unconditional access to all violence-hit areas and delivered food and wound-dressing supplies to Hama, Homs, Deir al-Zor and Deraa this month, she said. A mission to Latakia was planned shortly.
International condemnation of Assad is growing, including calls from the United States and European Union for him to step down. Washington has imposed sweeping new sanctions.
“In the event that needs grow, we will be ready to respond. If the situation deteriorates, the ICRC and Syrian Red Crescent will try to meet humanitarian needs,” Gasser said.
(Reporting by Stephanie Nebehay, editing by Rosalind Russell)
August 20th, 2011, 3:30 pm
Tara said:
Amir
Did not see the last paragraph you posted. Enjoy the green lights you are getting..
For me, my self esteem does not come from the numbers of green/ red lights I get on SC… It comes from how many compliments I get on my “gourmet” cooking or on my fashion statement. Green/red lights from mnhebaks are completely irrelevant.
August 20th, 2011, 3:49 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
OTW
Why don’t you apply for a job at Aljazera(if you don’t mind the dress code).you have been mean and lying lately,which is the major requirement.
August 20th, 2011, 3:52 pm
Revlon said:
Black list published by Aleppo coordination committees.
It cites caders from iranian republican Guards, Hizballah Badr Birgade and maliki militias of Iraq
“Aleppo’s black List-القائمه السوداء لأنذال حلب الشهباء منقول:الى ثوار سوريه : قيادات من الحرس الثوري وحزب الله ومنظمة بدر وحزب الدعوه يعملون مع القوات الخاصه التي يقودها ” ماهر الاسد” الخميس, 18 أغسطس 2011 13:08
متابع
مقرات سيطره وادارة عمليات مشتركه تعمل بأمرة الحرس الثوري وتتألف من
– ( قيادات من… الحرس الثوري \
– ومن عناصر 9بدر \
– وقيادات من حزب الله \
_ ومليشات حزب الدعوه جناح المالكي) اضافه الى العناصر التي دخلت مع هؤلاء وعددهم (300 ) عنصر من جنسيات مختلفه يتواجدون حاليا في مقرات المخابرات السوريه في دمشق وحماه ادناه اسماء هذه القيادات
1. المدعو \ عباس نوري ( ابو سجاد) وهو من قادة فرع الاغتيالات في 9 بدر في بغداد – منطقة الرصافه بعد الاحتلال وهو مقرب جدا من ( هادي العامري) امين عام منظمة 9بدر ( وزير النقل)
2. المدعو \ علي عناد الاماره يكنى ( ابو مرتجى) وهو من قادة فرق الاغتيالات في فيلق 9 بدر في محافظة الكوت ومناطق الدرعيه والرستميه والمدائن قاد عدة مجاميع بعد الاحتلال في هذه المناطق استهدفت ضباط مخابرات وخبراء تصنيع عسكري وهو من أمن الحمايه لخبراء ايرانيين في الملف النووي الايراني الذين دخلوا العراق عام 2003 متوجهين الى موقع ( الطاقه الذريه ) العراقيه لسرقة ملفات ومواد هامه جدا
3. المدعو \ قاسم الحسناوي \ يكنى ( ابو محمد ) وهو من قادة الاغتيالات في 9 لابدر في مناطق ( حي العدل – الجامعه – العامل – البياع – الدوره – العامريه ) واهم عملياته اغتيال شقيق ” حارث الضاري” واغتيال الفريق ( عامر ) شقيق طارق الهاشمي وهو قناص من الدرجه الاولى ويحمل رتبة ( رائد ) في الحرس الثوري ومقره قبل الاحتلال في مدينة ( كرمنشاه ) معسكر ” تنكه كنش”
4. المدعو \ كامل الناصري ( ابو تبارك ) من قادة فرع الاغتيالات في فيلق 9 بدر في محافظة ذي قار واشرف على عدة عمليات تصفيه واغتيال لكوادر من حزب البعث وضباط مخابرات وشيوخ عشائر في المحافظه
هؤلاء الاربعه يقودون مجاميع من 9 بدر وحزب الدعوه للقتال مع ” ماهر الاسد”
اما قيادات حزب الله هم كل من :
1. توفيق العاملي \ كان يعمل سابقا كضابط تنسيق بين حزب الدعوه وحزب الله وشارك في تفجير السفاره العراقيه في بيروت التي نفذها حزب الدعوه ( جناح المالكي)
2. احمد جبل
3. عبد الله الموسوي \ ضابط مسؤول عن العديد من “المعارضين ” العراقيين سابقا ويقودون الحكم في العراق حاليا حيث كان همزة الوصل بينهم وبين الحرس الثوري الايراني ويرتبطون بالحرس من خلاله ومن اهمهم :
* عبد الحليم الزهيري
* عزت الشابندر
* عباس البياتي
تتواجد هذه القيادات في المقرات التاليه
1. سوريه – القطيفه – معلولا – مبنى 9 شقه 4
2. حماه – الباروديه – عمارة الحموي – شقه 11
3. مزرعة عبد اللطيف – اللاذقيه – تبعد عن البحر مسافة 3 كم
هذه القيادات المذكوره اعلاه والمجاميع المرتبطه بهم من ( مليشات بدر – حزب الدعوه – العصائب ) سينفذون عمليات اجراميه منها :
1. القيام بعمليات خطف لابناء وعوائل قيادات المتظاهرين في سوريه ) والقيام بعمليات تصفيه لابرز هذه القيادات من ائمة مساجد ووجهاء في المناطق ( كما فعلوها في العراق)
2. التسلسل للحدود الاردنيه وتنفيذ عمليات اغتيال وخطف لحرس الحدود الاردنيين ومخافر الشرطه والثكنات العسكريه المتواجده هناSee More
22 hours ago
August 20th, 2011, 3:54 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
Revlon
الكذب ببلاش
August 20th, 2011, 4:05 pm
Vedat The Turk said:
Thanks Eshani. As always your analysis is greatly appreciated.
August 20th, 2011, 4:05 pm
Tara said:
Dear Aboud & Revlon
I like you guys very much. Please do not stop posting until Syria is free.
August 20th, 2011, 4:16 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
The Difference Between The Syrian Army And The Japanese Army http://lebpatriot.blogspot.com/2011/08/difference-between-syrian-and-japanese.html
August 20th, 2011, 4:20 pm
Aboud said:
Wait, what’s this
“Now that:الجيش السوري الحر is a history”
ROFL! So what happened to the all “analysis” you menhebaks and Landis wasted our time with when you tried to prove that the Free Officers were fake?
You should hear what’s going on in Homs the past couple of weeks. Khaled would be so happy, I know I am.
“الكذب ببلاش”
If lying was an energy source, what comes out of Besho’s mouth could outdo every nuclear energy plant on the planet. It could be the “alternative energy source” one menhebak had been yapping on about.
“Anchor Luna al-Shebl used to work earlier this year for Pan-Arab satellite al-Jazeera channel, before she left and get back home as Syrian officials use to accused al-Jazeera at broadcasting “baseless and fabricated news and reports about Syria incidents.” along with other foreign biased media agencies, as officials used to claim such foreign media agencies.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! The meti snorting bitch left Al-Jazeera way before the revolution. See, you just generated a few kilowatts with that lie hehehehe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1283010/Al-Jazeera-anchorwomen-quit-newsroom-row-clothes-decency.html
This from June 1st, 2010. That’s 2010 ye menhebak lying power plants, way before the revolution. Can you people tell the difference between 2010 and 2011? In 2010, Besho still had international friends. Now not even Montenegro can stand his pasty face.
I think we should give lie menkebak lie a kezebwatt rating.
August 20th, 2011, 4:27 pm
tarek said:
I am glad that there are only 4 secularists in the council, It should show what kind of revolution this one is and will make the loyalists fight harder,
August 20th, 2011, 4:30 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
This how the Syrian army treats the Syrian people.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/08/20/163165.html
August 20th, 2011, 4:46 pm
Aboud said:
Syr Expat, every video we’ve seen of the abuses by the Besho turds could only have come from one of them. These people would sell a video of their (edited for inappropriate language) for a few thousand liras.
August 20th, 2011, 4:51 pm
Tara said:
I am so happy for Libya. I expect Qaddafi to fall before the end of Ramadan. I can’t wait to see the look on Seif al Islam face if he stayed alive. Justice will be finally served in Libya.
August 20th, 2011, 4:59 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
If things turn sectarian and ugly (I hope not), people should not be surprised.
August 20th, 2011, 5:06 pm
Khalid Tlass said:
Aboud, a great idea. (edited for inappropriate language. This is your first warning)
August 20th, 2011, 5:06 pm
beaware said:
August 18, 2011
Why the Attacks on Syria
Posted by Lew Rockwell on August 18, 2011 12:06 PM
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/514152221?-16531
Syria has long been dictatorship, but a secular one that refused to take part in the fundamentalist jihad. The Christian minority has been able to live and worship in peace, exactly as in the old Iraq. You would think that might endear it to the US and Israel, especially since they are pro-dictatorship in the Muslim world. Quite the reverse, of course, since empires foment chaos to facilitate control–divide et impera, as the Romans used to say. So every Muslim country in the region is to be wrecked. But, but, the Syrian government is using violence to resist the foreign-funded color revolutionaries who want to overthrow it. Now there’s something unique in world history.
Christian communities almost 2,000 years old have been destroyed in Iraq, and that will be their fate in Syria, too. As the opposition openly says, Christians are to be expelled and their property confiscated, and Alawites are to be massacred (the tiny Muslim sect that the Syrian rulers belong to). The empire is about to have even more blood on its hands, if there is room.
Need I add that there is quite enough injustice in the US to worry about, without intervening in another country? Of course, one reason the US does, is to distract Americans from the crimes, economic and otherwise, of the US state. Let me also note that, just as in the run-up to the aggression against Iraq, we cannot trust the pressure-group propaganda coming out of DC.
August 20th, 2011, 5:07 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
Dear moderator,
I would like to report post 85. This has no place on this forum.
As much as I detest oppression, I won’t allow myself to be unjust.
August 20th, 2011, 5:09 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
82. ABOUD
The day of reckoning is coming sooner or later, in this world or in the hereafter.
We just need to be patient and just.
August 20th, 2011, 5:12 pm
OFF THE WALL said:
Dear Moderator
I would like to register my strongest condemnation and repulsion at post 85 by the so called Khaled Tlass. I join my voice to that of SYR.EXPAT.
August 20th, 2011, 5:12 pm
OFF THE WALL said:
SNK
You complaining about me being mean is pathetic, follow my comments and you will find that I am always mean with Fascists. Should that tell you something?…..
I will have a worm as my career consultant before asking a menhebbak for an advise. Come to think of it, I will ask hamster if he knows a good thoughtful worm for my next career move.
August 20th, 2011, 5:24 pm
Tara said:
Mousa Ibrahim is now invoking god in a press conference. How come they never thought of god when they were killing and oppressing Libyans?
August 20th, 2011, 5:27 pm
OFF THE WALL said:
Dear TARA,
Sorry for the long answer. But imagine that we are taking the stroll, with Hamster running around us in circles and Aboud being smart, funny, and yet rather serious while playing with his pony tail. Let us have a conversation.
1. Shattering the wall of fear-done
To a large extent this is true. People are talking, but the regime has erected a Da-venci fort of fear. It is multi-layers, and currently, its most critical layer is the layer of lies and innuendos being peddled here either by selective cut and paste from regime propaganda while convincing oneself of an illusionary neutrality and concerns about the safety of Syria and Syrians, or by crude verbal assaults and rotten writings pretending to be smart and funny. In both cases, the goal is one, and that is to instill fear in the minds of Syrians, and this time not of the regime, but of its fall. Naturally, while the first group is foolish, and the second group is simply hard-core fascist, the two groups aim to transfer their own fears to the wider community in order to justify the intellectual and moral confusion of the first, and the moral bankruptcy and arrogance of the latter. Syria comment, while not essentially a mirror of Syria, the tactics used by those defending the regime (second group) or merely its survival (the first group) on these pages are also being used heavily in Syria. Regime collaborators, and they are plenty, are represented by Fascist TV and media outlet (e.g., Dunya, hyper-nationalist Army lovers writings, and mouthpieces appearing on other media outlets), and the confused souls are epitomized by intellectuals like Bassam Alkadi, whose latest piece reached a comical hysterical level by calling Bashar’s departure treason, a feat the most devout menhebbakite have not dared make.
We need to expose both groups for what they are. They are working very hard to erect new walls of fear, multi-layered, and complex in order to force Syrians into a maze where the only savior would seem to be the criminal regime and its incompetent head. These walls aim to separate Syrians from each other’s and to delegitimize legitimate opposition that has gone far beyond what their fears can tolerate.
2. Massive Demonstration-done
Again dear TARA, true, but there is much more to do. We still need massive civil disobedience throughout the country. I know many on the opposition would not like to hear what I am about to say, but seriously; we got to wash our hands from Aleppo. Consider it for now an Assadian territory and stop wasting efforts trying to create massive demonstration in that town, even if there are activists in Aleppo, they better stay put for now (will explain later). The focus should be on recovering actions in Hama, Homs, Dair el-zor, and on maintaining and sustaining action in Daraa and other small mixed urban-rural cities and communities. Damascus and its country side are most crucial and actions should focus on these towns as well.
3. Sacrifices-done, ongoing on daily basis
NO argument here, we are all humbled by these sacrifices and by the heroic action of non-violent protesters, but we, the ones who live in safety, need to publicize their sacrifices more. Revlon is doing a great job at that. But we need more. We need to hold the Fascists responsible personally for each and every murder their regime commits. Think out of the box, and let us find a way.
4. International condemnation-done, more work needed especially with BRIC
Let us wash our hands from Russia. Brazil, India and South Africa are where we should start. Letter writing campaigns, especially to South Africa and Brazil, should start right now. Commentary on web-blogs of these two countries is essential. In South Africa, it is easy because most blogs are in English and few are in Afrikaans. Portuguese poses a problem and I am not sure whether the Syrian community in Brazil is pro or anti regime. But getting pressure on South Africa while at the same time respecting its desires to be listened to within an international arrangement that provides western (read that white) powers the upper hand is a vary important issue.
The actions of India and Brazil, while appear to be pro-regime, have nothing to do with the successes of the atrophied and much despised “black mail or beg” style Syrian diplomacy. The two countries are reaching economic adulthood, with India enjoying a cultural and political diversity that is unparalleled anywhere in the world. They are not pro-regime, they are simply leading a movement to change a dysfunctional international system that has provided the west with diplomatic cover to interfere in the affairs of other countries and to dictate, while exercising double standards, their military adventures in many parts of the world. What these two countries are doing is good for developing countries, and their stance on Syria at the UN should be understood in that light. Condemnation is a good thing, but their actions, which appears in the interest of the regime now, will only empower free Syria as well as other developing and recovering countries. And in fact, their moderating effect in terms of preventing military interference may be something we will be thankful for.
5. Targeted sanctions-done, effects need to be seen
Sanctions are not enough. Claims of large accounts held by the Assad mafia worldwide keep surfacing. I do not like rumors and unverified claims, they will only hurt us in the long run. We need an international movement to force money havens to identify and publish every single account. The numbers may be less than the rumors, but that is OK. We need to make sure that the mafia knows that we know where are the money hidden and that we, as Syrians, are coming back after our money.
6. Unified opposition-hopefully work in progress, Sunday Istanbul meeting will tell
I am really not counting on traditional opposition unification. The MBs are trying to show that they have support from the US and they will try to dominate the opposition, which will only lend the fascist regime and its mouthpieces here more ammunition. I am all for youth participation and I am counting on their forceful demands for the traditional democratic opposition to lead, follow, or step aside and let the youth, whose blood now adorn Syria’s streets make its bright future.
7. Damascus proper and Aleppo, Damascus proper have already seen some demonstrations (mazze, Abu remanne, mhajreen), more work needed
Aleppo will join when it notices that the fall of the regime is inevitable, whether one would call that opportunism, realism, or pragmatism is irrelevant. Therefore, energy should be saved for that moment, because it will be very crucial to have activists on the ground and not in jails. This is why I was asking that activists in Aleppo stay put and even avoid discussing their political views even with their relatives and close friends. I am basing this on many conversations I had personally, as well as on face-book, emails, and other mechanisms with many Aleppans from middle and upper middle class. They are now in a stubborn situation, and many have managed to transfer their earlier support of the regime into a personal issue through a rather tortuous rationalization process. I will not venture to overanalyze the sociological and psychological issues too much, but it has something to do with the level of oppressive and suffocating presence of regime armed gangs of drug smugglers and security agents.
August 20th, 2011, 5:43 pm
abughassan said:
there is plenty of garbage to spread around on the internet and some is being thrown at our faces on SC. Nobody with a functioning cell in his brain should forget that as we change the regime and build a new Syria we need to start with the basic fact that Syria is a third world country,I just hope that my children or grand children will be able to say otherwise in the future that we want to be bright and peaceful. will post tomorrow.
(Tripoli will probably fall tonight)
August 20th, 2011, 5:45 pm
OFF THE WALL said:
Dear ABUGHASSAN
Could not agree more. The most critical danger is the emergence of Illiberal democracy. We should be watchful and careful. It requires political agility.
August 20th, 2011, 6:00 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
@ 86
Did the Christian have better religious freedom under Assad than before? Will Christians have less freedom if this revolution succeed? I will answer this question.
However, before starting,I should mention that I am answering that not because I have any specific sectarian political claims as a Christian or I care very much about being a Christian, but because I feel as an individual I have some answers to that question.
Indeed, the religious freedom for the Christians were worse under Hafez Assad than before.
First, I remember when I was too young that we used to have very joyful religious festivities that included processions and carnivals that used to take place in the Street of Kassa’ and Bab Touma (in Damascus). We used to enjoy them very much. These used to be conducted by semi-religious scout-like clubs. I mean by semi-religious that these clubs were sponsored by church-related organization, but used to do not teach any thing about religion. They were rather social clubs than religious clubs. Further, these clubs used to have a lot of social activities in summer, filling the empty time and building social skills for the young people. These clubs used to have as members more 20-30% of the young people between the age 12-18 years in Bab Touma neighborhood. Un fortunately, Hafez Assad closed these clubs and shut up these festivities. Thus, he prevented the youth from many joyful and beneficial activities and forced them to be restricted to the Churchs and to have purely religious (with very little social) activities.
Second, Hafez Assad infused the fear among the clergy. At the end of his reign the Christmas and Ester sermon were, literally, written by the secret service and the religious leaders used just to read them. Further, Hafez Assad used to send the secret service to attend the masses to check that his sermons were read. That created a fear within the clergy. Even some of them who has no persona opted to be collaborator for the regime (like Bishop Luca, who expelled ambassador Ford from the church).
Indeed, he pushed the Christians to become fundamentalist (Salafist, if you want). He pushed them to fear and insecurity. That may answer sheila comments few days ago regarding why the Christian are anxious and in panic. It is because the insecurity they feel.
When Bashar and Asma came to the reign, Bashar was more open to the Christians than his father. However, that was superficial than real. This why you see the Christians are somewhat “like” him. Indeed, they went from a complete repression with his father to a less repressed situation.
I hope I provided you some answers.
August 20th, 2011, 6:07 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
Haytham
If you don’t have dementia you can spare yourself this علاك فاضي and realized that secular Syria protected half a million Christian Iraqis running away from Terrorist Islamists .when your Islamic terrorists friends take over in Syria ,Syrian Christians will run to the ….SEA.
August 20th, 2011, 6:22 pm
OFF THE WALL said:
Dear Haytham
Thank you very much. In my childhood and early youth, many of the clubs you have mentioned were open to other communities. Me an my siblings joined in some activities and you are right, much much fun for children (me) and teens (my older siblings).
Scout movement was obliterated by Assad, who could not tolerate it and wanted to replace it with Shabiba and Talae3. Both are nothing but Stalinist indoctrination organs and personality cult brain washing machines. Even at that, the two organizations seem to have been rather incompetent. The generation revolting is the one raised by Talae3.
I can see that the thought police has already detected your singing outside the flock and are angry. You know, just ignore the kids around here….
August 20th, 2011, 6:23 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
Dear Syria no kandahar:
This is just was a personal experience that I wanted to share with you.
I agree that Syria received more than 1.5 million refugees. Most of these were Christians who fled the ethnic and religious cleansing conducted mainly by the Kurd. That is what making the Christians scared from the change
I am counting on your critical judgement to take all the information into account and to form you opinion about the subject.
August 20th, 2011, 6:35 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
One of the biggest passions of the Syrian youth is soccer. However, the incompetence of the Syrian Soccer Federation (SCF), which is dominated by Baathists and military officers, could not have come to the forefront at a worse time for this highly corrupt government.
The dream of millions of Syrian youth to see their team qualify for the next world cup has been shattered. The worst part is that Farouk Sirieh, the SCF president, and the clowns around him have not resigned. All he did is admit to few shortcomings, but that’s it.
The people in the comment section of Syria-News are fuming. This is one of the rare occasions when you see near unanimous condemnation of the government by pro-regime and pro-liberty commenters.
حلبي طفران2011-08-20 21:39:14
سرية مسخرة الرياضة السورية
ان الفساد الرياضي هو جزء من الفساد السياسي والثورة التي قامت تشمل تصحيح الرياضة والله وراء القصد اصلا سرية ماب صير عامل علدي بالرياضة مو رئيس الاتحاد بس بسةرية كل شي بصير من قليل هالشعب ثار
شامي 2011-08-20 20:57:31
لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله
شكرا على هالاصلاحات يا قيادتنا العظيمة , برافو فاروق سرية يا مسيس يا أنت , أكيد مسيس يعني لانو كنا حناخد كأس العالم لذلك حبوا يأحطولنا من هلئ , ثابروا والى الوراء دائما كما عهدناكم …
August 20th, 2011, 6:37 pm
Norman said:
Haytham,
I lived in Syria and in Qassaa,in the seventies,during medical school, my experience is different than yours .
August 20th, 2011, 6:39 pm
beaware said:
Pressures in Syria affect Alawites in Lebanon
Zoi Constantine
Aug 21, 2011
http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/pressures-in-syria-affect-alawites-in-lebanon
TRIPOLI, LEBANON // Pictures of Syrian President Bashar Al Assad stare out from posters while a Syrian flag fluttered nearby.
“We are for you, Abu Hafez” read a banner, referring to a nickname for the Syrian president.
As pressure mounts on the Syrian regime, it is clear whom many support in Jebel Mohsen in the northern Lebanese city of Tripoli.
This neighbourhood is home to many of the city’s Alawite population – followers of the same offshoot of Shiite Islam as the Al Assad dynasty. The majority of Tripoli’s population of about 500,000 is Sunni. But the city is also home to tens of thousands of Alawites, according to community leaders, although there are no official figures.
One potential flashpoint is around the small enclave of Jebel Mohsen, which sits perched atop a hill surrounded by majority Sunni neighbourhoods, where regular demonstrations against the Assad regime have been taking place.
On Thursday night, sectarian tensions were again heightened, local residents said, when a group from Jebel Mohsen attempted to erect a picture of Mr Al Assad in an area overlooking their Sunni neighbours.
“When I see a picture of Bashar, who killed Muslims, we hate this and we refuse that these pictures should be displayed in Tripoli,” said Sheikh Zakariya Al Masri, a Sunni religious leader who lives nearby. “If everything was normal in Syria then I don’t care, but not under these circumstances.”
Yousef, a 34-year-old from Jebel Mohsen, who works in downtown Tripoli, and did not want to give his surname, called the situation in the community tense.
“Everyone in the Arab world is worried, Lebanese people included,” he said. “Lebanon will be affected if the Assad regime stays or goes … I support Assad to remain because if he goes I think there will be war in Syria between all religions.”
In mid-June, fighting broke out between armed opponents and supporters of the Al Assad regime in Jebel Mohsen and the adjoining Bab Al Tabbaneh neighbourhood, a Sunni stronghold. A mosque in the area still bears black marks after it was hit during the clashes that left at least three dead.
Lebanon’s minority Alawite community gained political clout during Syria’s 29-year military presence in the country, which ended in 2005. Elements of the community still look to Syria for support.
Meanwhile, radical Salafist elements are also known to be active among Tripoli’s Sunni population. The densely populated city with high levels of poverty, is a “hotbed” for extremism, said Elias Hanna, a Lebanese strategic analyst and retired general.
“This place is fertile for clashes between Tripoli and Jebel Mohsen, but this is certainly not the first time,” said Mr Hanna. “For now, everybody is ready and preparing for any scenario regarding Syria…Tripoli could be the clash point between Sunnis and Alawites, but it depends on what happens in Syria.”
Tension between the Sunni and Alawite communities in Tripoli is not new. In 2008, months of bloody clashes that left dozens dead ended after a truce was signed between Sunni and Alawite leaders.
Members of both communities said they would not be the ones to instigate further violence.
“But, if something happens, then we have to defend ourselves,” said Sheikh Al Masri. “When the Syrian regime falls shortly as we expect, we will not attack them unless they do something.”
Abdel Latif Saleh, a local mukhtar or community leader from Jebel Mohsen, and member of the pro-Syrian Arab Democratic Party, downplayed any unrest in his neighbourhood. “The situation here is fine,” he said. “From start to finish we are Lebanese. But we are friends of Syria because Syria is a country of resistance against Israel.”
The Syrian government is coming under unprecedented diplomatic pressure, particularly in the wake of US and European calls for Bashar al Assad to step down. However, Mr Saleh, 37, and others in the Alawite community dismissed such actions.
Mr Saleh, 37, and others in the Alawite community believe what is happening in Syria “is Israel and the US trying to start their project for a new Middle East. Everything is normal there.”
Next page …
August 20th, 2011, 6:46 pm
majedkhaldoon said:
News from Lybia, the day Mecca was liberated, are very promissing,very soon we will celebrate the end of another dictator.
Saddam, Ben Ali,Mubarak, Gaddafi
Next is Bashar turn
August 20th, 2011, 6:59 pm
Tara said:
Dear OTW
Thank you for taking the time to write me. I enjoyed reading your reply and agree very much with it.
To all
I am puzzled with some Christian Lebanese support of the regime. I drove an hour and half few days ago to a different state to cut my hair at my favorite hairstylist, a Christian Lebanese who follows Aoun. I know the guy since I came to the US and we are pretty good friends. He has gone with my family on skiing trips etc, and he is a fine man. I had a big fight with him and he annoyed me very much with his unwavering support of Bashar. For god sake, how come some Lebanese are so blind and can’t see anything except through their leaders’ eyes?
August 20th, 2011, 7:05 pm
SF94123 said:
If and when a Sunni regime will be installed in Syria, Syria will be badly wounded and unable to move forward. $150 billion is needed to rebuild its infrastructure … Money that Syria doesn’t have nor the new regime will be able to borrow it from its masters. Syrians will be living in the new 21st century “dark ages” for many decades. .. That was the plan for Syria and that what is going to happen… Shame on everyone who participated in this evil plan! Syrians don’t deserve this sad fate!
August 20th, 2011, 7:06 pm
Norman said:
Tara,
Is it possible that you are wrong, or that can not happen,
hey Majed,
Eat your tongue or in this case your fingers,
This is the second page to Beaware,note,
Aug 21, 2011
Just a few streets away in the nearby neighbourhood of Qoubba, Sheikh Al Masri, paints a very different picture of Syria.
“Muslims in Syria are under attack from the regime, from the Syrian government,” he said. “The Muslims in Lebanon started to support them, especially in Tripoli…We support them vocally so people in Syria feel they can continue.”
Sheikh Al Masri said he knew Syrians who fled the violence in their country and are now staying with relatives in Tripoli. “They told me that what we are seeing on the television is only a fraction of what is going on,” he said.
However, back in Jebel Mohsen, Mr Saleh, who said he visited the besieged Syrian city of Homs last week expressed the opposing view.
“All what you see on television – don’t believe it,” he said.
August 20th, 2011, 7:10 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
Syria disqualified from 2014 FIFA World Cup
(FIFA.com) Friday 19 August 2011
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/news/newsid=1495459/
Today, 19 August 2011, FIFA confirmed that the Syrian football team has been disqualified from the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™, and that Tajikistan is thereby reinstated into the competition.
The FIFA Disciplinary Committee on 17 August declared the first-leg match of the Second Round (Syria-Tajikistan of 23 July 2011) to be lost by Syria by forfeit (0:3) due to an ineligible player in the Syrian team taking part in this match.
The FIFA Disciplinary Committee reached the same decision regarding the second leg match (Tajikistan-Syria of 28 July 2011) due to the same ineligible player also taking part in this match.
In conformity with Article 7 of the Regulations for the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil, the Bureau of the Organising Committee for the FIFA World Cup took the following decisions:
1. The Syrian team is disqualified from the competition, losing their 2nd round knockout phase by forfeit.
2. The Tajikistan team is reinstated in the competition and will thus play in the 3rd round in Group C which resumes as of 2nd September 2011, in replacement of Syria
In accordance with Article 3, paragraph 4 of the Regulations for the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil, these decisions are final and binding, and not subject to appeal.
August 20th, 2011, 7:20 pm
Shami said:
This kind of mindset belongs to the dying menhebak era.
http://www.livestream.com/libyg
See you soon freed from ila al abad menhebakities
August 20th, 2011, 7:20 pm
Tara said:
Norman
I am not always right but I am this time.
August 20th, 2011, 7:27 pm
Shami said:
SF ,it will be the end of the world for some menehebak who lack any dignity but the arab and muslim people are eternal and of course are mostly sunni world so what do you mean by sunni regime?
Sunnism is a religious creed not a regime.There a leftist ,conservative,secular,liberal,democrat sunnis,intellectuals,poets,poors and richs,they belong to many nationalities ,arabs,indonesians,africans,berbers,chinese,europeans,americans,russians,turks,kurds,persians,indians…..no theocracy in Islam.
Majbali ahlan .
August 20th, 2011, 7:29 pm
Afram said:
95. Haytham Khoury said:
“Did the Christian have better religious freedom under Assad than before?”
read and Weep Haytham Khoury!
نص العهدة العمرية
من كتاب لأبن القيم الجوزية
عن عبد الرحمن بن غنم : كتبتُ لعمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه حين صالح نصارى الشام، وشرَط عليهم فيه
الا يُحدِثوا في مدينتهم ولا فيما حولها ديراً ولا كنيسة ولا قلاية ولا صومعة راهب،
ولا يجدِّدوا ما خُرِّب،
ولا يمنعوا كنائسهم من أن ينزلها أحدٌ من المسلمين ثلاث ليالٍ يطعمونهم،
ولا يؤووا جاسوساً،
ولا يكتموا غشاً للمسلمين،
ولا يعلّموا أولادهم القرآن،
ولا يُظهِروا شِركاً،
ولا يمنعوا ذوي قرابتهم من الإسلام إن أرادوا،
وأن يوقّروا المسلمين،
وأن يقوموا لهم من مجالسهم إذا أرادوا الجلوس،
ولا يتشبّهوا بالمسلمين في شيء من لباسهم،
ولا يتكنّوا بكناهم،
ولا يركبوا سرجاً،
ولا يتقلّدوا سيفاً،
ولا يبيعوا الخمور،
وأن يجُزُّوا مقادم رؤوسهم،
وأن يلزموا زيَّهم حيثما كانوا،
وأن يشدّوا الزنانير على أوساطهم،
ولا يُظهِروا صليباً ولا شيئاً من كتبهم في شيءٍ من طرق المسلمين،
ولا يجاوروا المسلمين بموتاهم،
ولا يضربوا بالناقوس إلا ضرباً خفيفاً،
ولا يرفعوا أصواتهم بالقراءة في كنائسهم في شيء من حضرة المسلمين،
ولا يخرجوا شعانين،
ولا يرفعوا أصواتهم مع موتاهم،
ولا يَظهِروا النيران معهم،
ولا يشتروا من الرقيق ما جَرَتْ عليه سهام المسلمين.
فإن خالفوا شيئاً مما شرطوه فلا ذمّة لهم،
وقد حلّ للمسلمين منهم ما يحل من أهل المعاندة والشقاق,
وأجاب المسيحيين المذلين , الذين أحتلت أراضيهم بقوة سيف المستعمر العربي المسلم الغاصب …
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إسم المؤلف : إسماعيل بن عمر بن كثير القرشي أبو الفداء
وفاة المؤلف 774
التى جائت على تفسير سورة التوبة آية 5 : ” فَإِذَا انْسَلَخَ الْأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُمُوهُمْ وَخُذُوهُمْ وَاحْصُرُوهُمْ وَاقْعُدُوا لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ فَإِنْ تَابُوا وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتَوُا الزَّكَاةَ فَخَلُّوا سَبِيلَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ ”
اِشْتَرَطَ عَلَيْهِمْ أَمِير الْمُؤْمِنِينَ عُمَر بْن الْخَطَّاب رَضِيَ اللَّه عَنْهُ تِلْكَ الشُّرُوط الْمَعْرُوفَة فِي إِذْلَالهمْ وَتَصْغِيرهمْ وَتَحْقِيرهمْ وَذَلِكَ مِمَّا رَوَاهُ الْأَئِمَّة الْحُفَّاظ مِنْ رِوَايَة عَبْد الرَّحْمَن بْن غَنْم الْأَشْعَرِيّ قَالَ : كَتَبْت لِعُمَر بْن الْخَطَّاب رَضِيَ اللَّه عَنْهُ حِين صَالَحَ نَصَارَى مِنْ أَهْل الشَّام
بِسْمِ اللَّه الرَّحْمَن الرَّحِيم
هَذَا كِتَاب لِعَبْدِ اللَّه عُمَر أَمِير الْمُؤْمِنِينَ مِنْ نَصَارَى مَدِينَة كَذَا وَكَذَا إِنَّكُمْ لَمَّا قَدِمْتُمْ عَلَيْنَا سَأَلْنَاكُمْ الْأَمَان لِأَنْفُسِنَا وَذَرَارِيّنَا وَأَمْوَالنَا وَأَهْل مِلَّتنَا وَشَرَطْنَا لَكُمْ عَلَى أَنْفُسنَا أَنْ
لَا نُحْدِث فِي مَدِينَتنَا وَلَا فِيمَا حَوْلهَا دَيْرًا وَلَا كَنِيسَة وَلَا قلاية وَلَا صَوْمَعَة رَاهِب وَلَا نُجَدِّد مَا خَرِبَ مِنْهَا وَلَا نُحْيِي مِنْهَا مَا كَانَ خُطَطًا لِلْمُسْلِمِينَ وَأَنْ لَا نَمْنَع كَنَائِسنَا أَنْ يَنْزِلهَا أَحَد مِنْ الْمُسْلِمِينَ فِي لَيْل وَلَا نَهَار وَأَنْ نُوَسِّع أَبْوَابهَا لِلْمَارَّةِ وَابْن السَّبِيل
وَأَنْ نُنْزِل مِنْ رَأَيْنَا مِنْ الْمُسْلِمِينَ ثَلَاثَة أَيَّام نُطْعِمهُمْ
وَلَا نَأْوِي فِي كَنَائِسنَا وَلَا مَنَازِلنَا جَاسُوسًا وَلَا نَكْتُم غِشًّا لِلْمُسْلِمِينَ وَلَا نُعَلِّم أَوْلَادنَا الْقُرْآن وَلَا نُظْهِر شِرْكًا وَلَا نَدْعُو إِلَيْهِ أَحَدًا
وَلَا نَمْنَع أَحَدًا مِنْ ذَوِي قَرَابَتنَا الدُّخُول فِي الْإِسْلَام إِنْ أَرَادُوهُ
وَأَنْ نُوَقِّر الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَأَنْ نَقُوم لَهُمْ مِنْ مَجَالِسنَا إِنْ أَرَادُوا الْجُلُوس
وَلَا نَتَشَبَّه بِهِمْ فِي شَيْء مِنْ مُلَابِسهمْ فِي قَلَنْسُوَة وَلَا عِمَامَة وَلَا نَعْلَيْنِ وَلَا فَرْق شَعْر
وَلَا نَتَكَلَّم بِكَلَامِهِمْ وَلَا نَكَتْنِي بِكُنَاهُمْ وَلَا نَرْكَب السُّرُوج وَلَا نَتَقَلَّد السُّيُوف وَلَا نَتَّخِذ شَيْئًا مِنْ السِّلَاح وَلَا نَحْمِلهُ مَعَنَا
وَلَا نَنْقُش خَوَاتِيمنَا بِالْعَرَبِيَّةِ
وَلَا نَبِيع الْخُمُور
وَأَنْ نَجُزّ مَقَادِيم رُءُوسنَا وَأَنْ نَلْزَم زَيِّنَا حَيْثُمَا كُنَّا وَأَنْ نَشُدّ الزَّنَانِير عَلَى أَوْسَاطنَا
وَأَنْ لَا نُظْهِر الصَّلِيب عَلَى كَنَائِسنَا وَأَنْ لَا نُظْهِر صُلُبنَا وَلَا كُتُبنَا فِي شَيْء مِنْ طُرُق الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَلَا أَسْوَاقهمْ
وَلَا نَضْرِب نَوَاقِيسنَا فِي كَنَائِسنَا إِلَّا ضَرْبًا خَفِيفًا
وَأَنْ لَا نَرْفَع أَصْوَاتنَا بِالْقِرَاءَةِ فِي كَنَائِسنَا فِي شَيْء فِي حَضْرَة الْمُسْلِمِينَ
وَلَا نَخْرُج شَعَّانِينَ وَلَا بُعُوثًا
وَلَا نَرْفَع أَصْوَاتنَا مَعَ مَوْتَانَا
وَلَا نُظْهِر النِّيرَان مَعَهُمْ فِي شَيْء مِنْ طُرُق الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَلَا أَسْوَاقهمْ
وَلَا نُجَاوِرهُمْ بِمَوْتَانَا
وَلَا نَتَّخِذ مِنْ الرَّقِيق مَا جَرَى عَلَيْهِ سِهَام الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَأَنْ نُرْشِد الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَلَا نَطْلُع عَلَيْهِمْ فِي مَنَازِلهمْ .
قَالَ فَلَمَّا أَتَيْت عُمَر بِالْكِتَابِ زَادَ فِيهِ وَلَا نَضْرِب أَحَدًا مِنْ الْمُسْلِمِينَ شَرَطْنَا لَكُمْ ذَلِكَ عَلَى أَنْفُسنَا وَأَهْل مِلَّتنَا وَقَبِلْنَا عَلَيْهِ الْأَمَان فَإِنْ نَحْنُ خَالَفْنَا فِي شَيْء مِمَّا شَرَطْنَاهُ لَكُمْ وَوَظَّفْنَا عَلَى أَنْفُسنَا فَلَا ذِمَّة لَنَا وَقَدْ حَلَّ لَكُمْ مِنَّا مَا يَحِلّ مِنْ أَهْل الْمُعَانَدَة وَالشِّقَاق .
http://quran.al-islam.com/Tafseer/DispTafsser.asp?l=arb&taf=KATHEER&nType=1&nSora=9&nAya=29
August 20th, 2011, 7:32 pm
Shami said:
Afram,
The russians would have to worry the most ,it’s estimated that in 2050 ;half of russians will be Sunni muslims.
Go Translate your medieval books to russian people!
August 20th, 2011, 7:42 pm
ann said:
Syria rejects U.S. and European calls for Assad’s removal
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/print/CTVNews/20110820/syria-rejects-assad-removal-calls-110820/20110820/?hub=World&subhub=PrintStory
Syrian President Bashar Assad’s security forces fired on protesters in the central province of Homs on Saturday, killing two and injuring eight others as a brutal crackdown on anti-government protesters continued despite international outrage.
The latest incident comes on the heels of an attack that killed 29 people on Friday, and days after Assad claimed he had halted the deadly offensive.
The United States, Canada and European leaders demanded this week that Assad immediately step down and end his attack on Syrian people, who have held months of protests against his regime.
A government-owned newspaper rejected U.S. President Barak Obama’s demands for Assad to step down, saying on Saturday that it reveals the “face of the conspiracy” against Damascus.
The daily Al-Thawra newspaper, which speaks for the Syrian regime, said the country would “never permit” any kind of foreign intervention in Syria’s internal affairs.
Bassem Mroue, an Associated Press reporter in Beirut, said it is unlikely that sanctions imposed by the U.S. and European countries would do much to change how Syria is governed.
“Syria has never let anyone interfere with its internal affairs in the past and they will not allow it now,” Mroue told CTV News Channel on Saturday.
The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Saturday that military forces shot dead two people in the town of Rastan, near the provincial capital of Homs, including anti-regime protest organizer Mahmoud Ayoub.
The fresh wave of violence comes despite assertions to the U.N. chief this week that Assad’s regime had ended its military assault against a five-month-long uprising.
Mroue said thousands of people have been detained over the past week, cutting into the size of public protests.
“Yesterday’s demonstrations were not as big as previous ones, but we don’t know the reason behind that. It might be because the crackdown is succeeding and thousands of people have been detained over the past week,” he said.
Rami Abdul-Rahman, head of the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said on Saturday military reinforcements were being sent to Homs, Syria’s third-largest city and the site of intense anti-government protests.
Sweeping arrests were reported on Saturday in the coastal city of Latakia, the eastern city of Deir el-Zour, and the central flashpoint city of Hama.
August 20th, 2011, 8:03 pm
TARARARA said:
TARA SAYS:
“Dear Revlon
I agree with you. Informants’ names must be publicized. It is the only way of deterrence at this stage.”
TARA, you will bring cannibalism to Syria!
You think you know everything, but for real you know very little of what is happening. You with your little phrases, [Edited for insults and name calling]
You want to publicize names?? then you want to destroy Syria, and you want people to kill each other that is if not eat each other. [Edited for more needless insult]
You don’t know what you are doing and who you are serving by your little phrases against Syria. The colonialists have created this (where we are at) and they are to blame for this mess (minority controlling a whole and diverse country like Syria). The way out of this is not to remove such a regime, it will create a huge vacuum that we cannot afford in Syria. The only way is gradual, Bashar cannot just leave and let other people take over, this will create chaos and
when you come and say, hey friends, lets reveal names of informants, do you know what you are doing? you are adding gas on fire and people will get killed, the informants, the enemy of my friend, the neighbor I didn’t like or I suspected, and the story goes on.
What a shame.
Assad will go, but hey give him some time to go. Believe me you are serving enemies of Syria, the big shaitan israel and all the friends…
August 20th, 2011, 8:19 pm
Norman said:
Shami,
Apparently according to your plan , the Christians , original people of the Mideast do not have a place in your new Syria or even the world,at least on an equal footing to the Sunni, is my understanding right , I did not see you mentioning them in new your plan,
hey Tara,
According to the like and dislike, apparently many people do not agree with you, but then what when you are in power, you can make us like you, ,,,, by force .
August 20th, 2011, 8:45 pm
majedkhaldoon said:
Shami
In 2050 ,in USA,25% of USA population will be Musslems
Norman , I am sorry,
August 20th, 2011, 8:46 pm
tara said:
Affram
Based on above statistics and if you live in the US or Russia, you should plan from now where you want your kids to immigrate. That is called long term planning… The problem is, we Muslims are ubiquitous. We are everywhere and we bite. I hope you have a peaceful dream tonight.
August 20th, 2011, 9:03 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
سيحتوي المجلس الانتقالي عالمين:عالم ذره وعالم دكتوره ارهاب
سوريه الغد :سعوديه طفرانه
August 20th, 2011, 9:04 pm
Syria no kandahar said:
Proud Terrorist Dog:and we bite.
August 20th, 2011, 9:07 pm
Shami said:
Norman ,i answered to Afram and SF.
It’s them who are scared of Islam and i have nothing against middle eastern christianity as it’s a field of my studies.
as for today christians in Syria ,as Haytham Khoury said ,those who remained many of them have become Salafi Christians and Islamophobics ,it was not the case prior to Asad or it was a marginal feeling.
What i see is that extremists amongst the muslims are small minorities ,why are they trying to Qaidize us alltogether from OTW to Revlon?
In order to make Happy abu Hafez yel3an roho?
Majed ,i doubt that the muslims will be 25% of America.
As for Russia it’s well known estimation which takes into account the demographic natural decrease of russian christians and the demographic dynamism of the russian muslims.
It would be very dangerous if the non muslim russians become as islamophobic than some menhebak here.
August 20th, 2011, 9:08 pm
jad said:
عشية مشاركته في مؤتمر المعارضة في تركيا الأحد
تيزيني لـ «الراي»: سيناريو الحرب الأهلية مطروح وأتمنى ألا يكون طلب رحيل الأسد مقدمة لاضطرابات
| بيروت ـ من ريتا فرج |
أبدى المفكر السوري الطيب تيزيني تخوفه من «تحولات خطيرة» في الساعات المقبلة إثر دعوة الولايات المتحدة وأوروبا الرئيس بشار الأسد الى التنحي، مشيراً إلى إحتمال دخول سورية في حرب أهلية.
واذ شدد على الطابع السلمي للحركة الاحتجاجية حتى الآن، لفت الى أن توجه سورية باتجاه النموذج الليبي في حال استعمال الثوار للسلاح «سيؤدي الى كارثة».
تيزيني، الذي تلقى دعوة للمشاركة في المؤتمر الذي تعقده المعارضة يوم غد الأحد في تركيا للاعلان عن مجلس وطني يشكل نواة لحكومة وطنية لمرحلة ما بعد الأسد، رحّب بهذا المؤتمر معلناً تأييده «أي مؤتمر وطني يجمع كافة القوى لاخراج سورية من أزمتها».
«الراي» اتصلت بالمفكر والأكاديمي السوري قبل مشاركته في مؤتمر المجلس الوطني في تركيا وأجرت معه الحوار الآتي:
• كيف تقرأ دعوة الولايات المتحدة وأوروبا الرئيس بشار الأسد للتنحي؟
– نحن هنا نشعر بالأسى العميق لأن الرئيس الأسد لم يأخذ المبادرة المناسِبة، وترك المسألة على عواهنها ما استفز الشعب السوري قبل أن يستفز القوى الخارجية. ما نعيشه الآن في سورية يمثل حالة من الانتظار المفعم بالتوقعات التى قد تقود الى أوضاع مأسوية. قراءة هذا الحدَث في الوسط السوري تفضي الى القول إن القرار السياسي أصبح غير قابل للخروج الى العلن وغير قادر على اجراء انعطاف جدي تجاه الحل السلمي، وهذا ما يدفعنا الى توقع تحولات خطيرة. الأمر في سورية بعد دعوة اميركا وأوروبا الرئيس الاسد الى التنحي أكثر تعقيداً مما يتوقعه الكثيرون، وقد يتخذ مساراً تصاعدياً في الساعات القليلة المقبلة، لأن الاستجابة لشروط الشعب لم تحدث ولم يتم وقف العنف، ونحن نتمنى ألا يكون طلب رحيل الأسد مقدمة لحدوث اضطرابات في سورية.
• ما البديل في حال رفض الرئيس الأسد ترك السلطة؟ وهل تتخوفون من الحرب الأهلية؟
– هذا السيناريو مطروح، والبديل الذي سيلجأ اليه النظام هو العنف نفسه الذي ربما سيتخذ طابعاً آخر. حتى الآن الحركة الاحتجاجية لم تخرج عن طابعها السلمي، وإذا استمر هذا الوضع ولم تصغ السلطة الى ما هو مهم في هذه اللحظات التاريخية الحرجة، فإن الاضطرابات ستكون سيدة الموقف. ولكن الأخطر أن النظام حتى الآن لم يصدر اي بيان رسمي في ما يتعلق بالمتغيرات الأخيرة.
• هل تتخوفون من استعمال السلاح من الثوار في سورية كما يجري في النموذج الليبي؟
– هذا الاحتمال قائم، لكن الشعب السوري حريص على السلم الأهلي، وهناك مجموعات داخل سورية تملك السلاح ولا تريد استخدامه. ونتمنى أن يدرك النظام خطورة هذه المسألة. وإذا توجهت سورية باتجاه النموذج الليبي ستحل على كل السوريين كارثة.
• المعارضة السورية تحضر لمؤتمر في تركيا للاعلان عن مجلس وطني يوم الأحد يكون نواة لحكومة سورية ما بعد مرحلة الاسد؟ هل تلقيتم دعوة لحضور المؤتمر؟ وكيف تقرأ هذه الخطوة؟
– نعم تلقيت دعوة لحضور المؤتمر الذي أعتقد أنه سيأتي بصيغة مقبولة. وفي هذه المرحلة بالذات ليس هناك أفضل من عقد مؤتمر لحل كل هذه الاستعصاءات التي تتعرض لها سورية. وعلى الحكماء في النظام أن يدركوا ضرورة اللجوء الى الاصلاحات الجدية بدل الحلول الامنية. المؤتمر في هذه الظروف سيكون مقبولاً وانا أؤيد أي مؤتمر وطني يجمع كافة القوى لاخراج سورية من أزمتها.
• مجلس الأمن ناقش الخميس التقرير الذي أعده فريق تحقيق من مجلس حقوق الانسان حول الانتهاكات التي يرتكبها النظام بحق المتظاهرين والشعب السوري وقد لفت معدو التقرير الى أن ما يرتكبه النظام بحق السوريين يصل الى «الجرائم ضد الانسانية». هل ستمهد هذه الخطوة لاحالة ملف المسؤولين عن عمليات القمع على المحكمة الجنائية الدولية؟
– للأسف لا نسمع أي اجابات رسمية وهذا ما يزيد المسألة اضطراباً. ورغم الادانات الدولية لأعمال العنف التي تُرتكب بحق المتظاهرين، لا نسمع أي تعليق من السلطة. وهنا أريد أن اسأل ألم تشهد حمص التي أقيم فيها حالة من العنف؟ وتالياً لا حل للأزمة السورية إلاّ بلجوء النظام الى تقديم حل وطني يرضي القوى السياسية والشرائح الشعبية. والحل الوطني يتطلب وبأقصى سرعة تعديل الدستور وإلغاء المادة الثامنة واجراء انتخابات برلمانية.
• هل النظام قادر على اجراء هذه الخطوات الاصلاحية التي تطالب بها؟
– أتحفظ عن استعمال كلمة نظام، وأنا ما زلت أراهن على وجود الرأي العاقل في مواقع القرار، وهؤلاء الحكماء الذين اراهن عليهم لا بد لهم من إجراء خطوات اصلاحية تلبي طموحات الشعب السوري نحو الديموقراطية والتعددية.
• وسط تزايُد الضغوط الدولية التي كان آخرها المطالبة بتنحي الرئيس الأسد، ما الذي تتوقعه من النظام؟
– ليس أمامه سوى وقف العنف بعدما تأكد من أن لا جدوى من العملية العسكرية التي يقوم بها ضد المتظاهرين.
http://www.alraimedia.com/Alrai/Article.aspx?id=293425&date=20082011
August 20th, 2011, 9:12 pm
Chris W said:
Asia Times:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MG15Ak02.html
…
There is this mass demand for reform. But paradoxically – and contrary to the “awakening” narrative – most Syrians also believe that President Bashar al-Assad shares their conviction for reform. The populations of Damascus, Aleppo, the middle class, the merchant class, and non-Sunni minorities (who amount to one quarter of the population), among others, including the leadership of the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood, fall into this category. They also believe there is no credible “other” that could bring reform.
…
It is difficult to establish numbers, but perhaps 40,000-50,000 Syrians fought in Iraq. With their marriage into local communities, their support base is more extensive than actual numbers that travelled to Iraq. Their objective in Syria is similar to that in Iraq: to establish the conditions for jihad in Syria through exacerbating sectarian animosities – just as Zarqawi did in Iraq through his attacks on the Shi’ites and their shrines. Likewise, they seek a foothold in north-eastern Syria for a Salafist Islamic emirate, which would operate autonomously from the state’s authority.
…
The second side to the Syrian box are some exile groups: they too are well-financed by the US government and other foreign sources, and have external connections both in the region and the West. Some 2009 cables from the US Embassy in Damascus reveal how a number of these groups and TV stations linked to them have received tens of millions of dollars for their work from the State Department and US-based foundations, along with training and technical assistance. These exile movements believe they can successfully use the Salafist insurgents for their own ends.
…
etc
August 20th, 2011, 9:23 pm
Shami said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn3QMiysZfg
Very nice face of Russia.
August 20th, 2011, 9:26 pm
Real Syrian said:
…..According to the terrifying posts( 111 and 114) Islam in 2050 will dominate all the world so you will control the earth again.
Syria comment blog reader ,enjoy Islamic Khelafa is coming again and all (Kufar) should be Muslims or they pay for the Muslims Sultan, moreover beautiful women in Russia and States will be Islamic properties…..
Dear delusional (111,114) writers on this blog you are simple if you think States and Russia are going to wait till your Sunni Islam control them……Your religion -as many people here in the west consider- is out of date…………..
August 20th, 2011, 9:29 pm
Ali said:
Authorities Seize New Amounts of Firearms, GrenadeS and, Explosive Tools in al-Ramel al-Janoubi
For the second time in a week, the competent authorities seized large amounts of firearms which were hidden by the armed terrorist groups in al-Ramel al-Janoubi neighborhood in Lattakia province to use them later to attack the citizens and law enforcement members, after they already used some of them in targeting security members and civilians and attacking private and public properties.
http://sana.sy/eng/337/2011/08/20/365071.htm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook
August 20th, 2011, 9:32 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
“But paradoxically – and contrary to the “awakening” narrative – most Syrians also believe that President Bashar al-Assad shares their conviction for reform.”
Was that written by the mukhabarat or what? The syrian people are done with convictions. They want actions.
August 20th, 2011, 9:41 pm
Shami said:
Real Syrian ,i dont see the things according your clash of civilizations point of view ,the muslims in Russia could become a majority ,this is a fact ,regardless of politics.
Btw ,in Europe ,they also have to struggle against the islamophobic people who came from some christian communities from the middle east and believe me that those who are stopping them are men of church and intellectuals.
August 20th, 2011, 9:45 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
Dear Norman @100
It can completely conceive that your experience is different than mine. Social experiences are very relative. As you know Einstein in his theory of relativity said: Any physical event is differently perceived by two different observers who look at it from 2 different places in two different periods of time. Certainly, social experiences are more relative than social ones.
My experience that I described @95 arose from living in that neighborhood in the 70s and after the 70s (mainly in the 80s. I left Syria in 1991).
August 20th, 2011, 9:58 pm
ann said:
Syrian opposition in Turkey to map post-Assad future
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=234688
*** FRIENDS OF SYRIA ***
“The Turks are pushing hard for this to come out as soon as possible, with an eye toward putting out a declaration on Sunday,” he said.
On Friday, dozens of Middle East experts signed a joint letter to US President Barack Obama praising him for his administration’s statement last week calling for Assad to step aside.
Nonetheless, they wrote, much remains to be done to help push out the Syrian ruler, including tighter sanctions focusing on the banking and energy sector, engaging Syrian opposition in the country and abroad and, finally, recalling US Ambassador Robert Ford from Damascus.
Signatories included such leading experts as Fouad Ajami of Stanford University, the Council on Foreign Relation’s Elliott Abrams and Max Boot, Foundation for Defense of Democracies Chairman and ex-CIA director James Woolsey and Azm himself.
August 20th, 2011, 10:08 pm
ss said:
By Shami; 126 “the muslims in Russia could become a majority”
This is why the world should hate muslims and Islam. Muslims in Russia could become a majority???so what, do you cheer for muslims to dominate the world. Be afraid of God Shami, and have some respect for religous freedom. Anyone with secular mind would reject your idea and I do not blame the west of having Islamophobia, esp from people like yourself. Jesus and Moses; christianity and Jewish religions, both have great things as Islam does and to bug you a little, they did not have to use swords to let people into their religion.
August 20th, 2011, 10:13 pm
Hans said:
It is unclear how much all these arabic movements are for democracy but clearly for Sunni theocracy where all minorities are persecuted! if we are talking about the western democracy then it is not going to happen in the middle east for thousand of years.
what need to happen first is to seperate the state from the mosque that is a main condition to have a true democracy! as I read all the above comments it is all about one part of a religion ruling the rest of the counrty, citizenship is not about religion but about country, home, land. most of the middle east was christian until islam came over and by force converted people into islam that’s why most of the christians who survived thousands years ago in syria live in the mountains.
In Iraq even after the fall of Sadam, who was a true dectator compared to Mubark or Bashar Alassad, the new Iraqi constitution doesn’t give freedome of religion and the most who suffered are the minorities especially the Iraqi christians!
in Egypt, it is clear that the msulim brotherhood is progressing into power that’s all what the egyptian reveloution is heading to.
In Syria; where the situation is more different given that there are many different ethnic groups including the Allawites, christians, Kurds, Sunni etc the counrty is heading into a bloody civil war sooner or later may take 5-10 years before we see Syria again as an influential country in the area as it is now.
the whole support of the USA for the opposition in syria is to pressure Iran which is at the expense of the Syrians, it is very stupid of the west to believe that there is a democracy looming in any of these countries.
one clear example is Gaza strip where democracy procduced Hamas ruling, putting the area decades back in stone age.
Sunni in syria and many of them made millions of $ during Bashar period and that’s why many Sunni merchants in damascus and Aleppo ( the biggest two cities) are aopposing the fall of the regime because the alternative is very grim and everyone knows that. but the americans want to topple Bashar so they can get the whole area in the dark ages under the ruling of the muslim brotherhood AKA Alqaida in Syria who are the main opposition to the regime and truly who the regime is attacking, when i talk to people who come from there they say it all it is the muslim bortherhood.
August 20th, 2011, 10:22 pm
ss said:
123 “Your religion -as many people here in the west consider- is out of date…………”
Real Syrian, I agree with you on most of your posts but not this one. Obama does not believe that it is out of date. It looks that the US, UK, and France would love to see secular Syria go and they are trying hard to bring what you call them “out dated”. It seems that they either did not learn from their previous mistakes; replacing shah or Iran, supporting Saddam, supporting bin laden against the Russians,….or they indeed wants this region to be in totlal mess. I do not know what they want…. I guess there is some negotiations behind closed doors and I think the west was not able to cut deals in regard to nuclear Iran, and I think they failed to isolate the Syrian regime from both Iran and HA; becaue of that they want to continue the pressure on Syria.
I have no doubt that there will not be any military intervention. Syria will survive this crisis but it will take years. Russia, China, and Iran provide Syria with the support it needs to survive the sanctions.
August 20th, 2011, 10:22 pm
Shami said:
SS ,dominate the world?
where did i say this?
August 20th, 2011, 10:23 pm
SQI said:
مجموع أشخاص يساوي قضايا شخصية
أنطون سعادة
http://ssnp.info/index.php?article=18143
جريدة “الجيل الجديد” العدد 12 في 13 نيسان 1949.
قلت مراراً، ومن زمان طويل، أنه لا أمل بتحسين حالة سيئة وتنظيم أمور أمة بسياسة أشخاص وتغيير وجوه، فلا أمل للأمة بالنهوض والارتقاء إلا بتولد الوعي القومي وبنشوء السياسة القومية التي يجب أن تحل محل السياسة الشخصية وبتغيير القواعد السياسية كلها. فإن إبدال أشخاص بأشخاص لا يغيّر السياسة الشخصية المسؤولة عن تعثرنا وسقوطنا في أول فرصة أعطيت لنا للسير نحو الحرية والسيادة القومية الحقيقية.
الأشخاص مهما كانوا متعلمين ومتنورين لا يخرجون عن كونهم أشخاصاً – أفراداً تسيطر على أعمالهم نظم تفكيرهم الفردي اللامسؤول نحو قضية واضحة ومبادىء محددة صريحة، وغاية قومية جماعية. فالسياسة لهم هي فن الغايات الفردية الخصوصية والمقاصد عندهم هي المقاصد الفردية، وليست القضايا القومية إلا واسطة لغاياتهم الخصوصية، وإذا تكرموا بإعطائها قسطاً من تفكيرهم لم يخرجوا، في ذلك، عن حدود الفردية ومتعها الفكرية، فمصير الأمة منوط أبداً بتقلب ميولهم وأحوالهم الفردية، وهو لذلك، مصير قاتم، غامض، لا يمكن أن يطمئن إليه شعب حي، حر، واع قوميته، عارف قضيته الكبرى ومقاصده العظمى.
الفردية غير المسؤولة هي من أسوأ أمراض المجتمع النفسية ومن أكبر قضاياه الاجتماعية والسياسية. فإذا تحكمت هذه الفردية الهدامة في مصير شعب وسخّرته لأغراضها الشخصية ومقرارتها التحكمية قادته إلى الخراب والذل وسيطرة الأفراد الخطرة على الأمم هي تلك السيطرة التي يصل إليها الأفراد عن طريق وثبة المطامع الشخصية في سانحة المشاكل السياسية – تلك السيطرة التي تعني للفرد غايته العظمى فهي ليست واسطة لقضية جماعية اسسها وبناها فرد، بل غاية تتخذ القضية القومية واسطة لها. انها ليست سيطرة قضية الأمة بواسطة الفرد الذي يحمل قضية الأمة، بل سيطرة قضية الشخص الذي يحمل الأمة كلها أعباء قضيته الخصوصية!
هذه هي الدكتاتورية البغيضة التي تتخذ شعباً بكليته مطية لإرادتها الفردية المطلقة. إنها أقبح أنواع الاستعباد، لأنها استعباد من الداخل، وإذا لم تصل هذه الدكتاتورية الى السلطة التنفيذية فهي تمارس طغيانها المخرب بالتهديم من تحت.
لا تزول القضايا الشخصية بإقتسام السلطة التنفيذية أو بتوزيعها على عدد من الأشخاص. فمجموع أشخاص لا يساوي إلا قضايا شخصية.
ليست قضية الأمة مجموعة قضايا شخصية فقضية الأمة هي قضية غاية ومبادىء قومية كلية ولا يمكن أن تسير أمة إلى الفلاح والمجد إلا عن طريق قضيتها الكلية. فأين قضية الأمة الكلية في المنازعات بين أشخاص وأشخاص وبين حكومات وحكومات، وهل يمكن أن يخرج الشعب من مشاكله بواسطة سياسة المماليك؟ وهل يمكن القضاء على سياسة المماليك بواسطة المماليك؟
الأمة في حالة خطرة من الابهام والشلل وسط القضايا الخصوصية التي تتنازع مصيرها. وليس أسوأ مصيراً من شعب غافل عن قضيته الكلية. وليست خسارة كيليكية والاسكندرونة وفلسطين إلا نتائج أولى لتلك القضايا وهذه الغفلة. وكما لَهــَـا الشعب قديماً بالقضايا الخصوصية هو يلهو اليوم بالقضايا الخارجة عن نطاق حياته بالقضايا الشخصية التي لا تزال جذورها ممتدة في أوساطه. انه يفرج كربه من حوادث فلسطين ومن حالة السوريين اللاجئين من الجنوب بالمناظرات القائمة بين محور العراق – الأردن الذي تديره العائلة العربية الهاشمية ومحور العُربة – مصر الذي يسير في سياسة موحدة تجاه الدول السورية ترتكز على اقرار الأمر المفعول.
إذا بحثنا عن قضية الأمة في هذه المنازعات ومتشعباتها فعبثاً نبحث، لأن قضية الأمة ليست في إرادات خارجية ولا في العروش والتيجان الملكية. إنها في الشعب في سيادة الأمة لا في سيادة الأشخاص.
إن قضية الأمة هي في نهضتها وتقرير مصيرها بإرادتها. إنها في مبادىء وجودها وحياتها وغايتها العظمى. هنا المخرج من المأزق، من ورطة السلاطين والمماليك، من الاستسلام لمقررات التحكم الشخصي، من العجز والانهيار.
يجب أن ينتهي دور تحكم الأفراد الغامضي المبادىء، الغامضي المقاصد، في الشعب ومصيره. ولا ينتهي هذا الدور إلا بالإقبال على مبادىء الحياة القومية الاجتماعية – على النظام القومي الاجتماعي الذي يقضي على قضايا الاقطاع والحزبية الدينية والمآرب الخصوصية، ويزيل كل ابهام وغموض في المقاصد القومية، ويطرد كل فوضى من الشعب ومن مؤسسات الدولة.
لا ينجينا إلا مقاصد قومية واضحة – عقيدة واضحة يجد فيها الشعب حقيقته وأهداف حياته العظمى ويتخذها إيماناً يعمل به ويسير في هداه إلى الخير والعز. إن فوضى المقاصد الشخصية والغايات الخصوصية تمنع تولد الثقة بحسن المصير. إنها تبقي الشعب بلا قضية واحدة صحيحة وبلا نظام يجمع أمره وبلا ايمان يدفعه إلى الأمام.
إلى اتباع العقيدة القومية الاجتماعية يجب أن يتجه الشعب لأنها تعطيه قضيته الحقيقية وبنظامها يجب أن يعمل لأنه سلاح ضد الفوضى. الشعب يجب أن ينتزع مصيره من أيدي الأشخاص وأن يرفع قضيته فوق القضايا الشخصية والجزئية، يجب على الشعب أن يعرف قضيته القومية الاجتماعية، وأن يحارب في سبيل تحقيقها، فلن يحقق قضية الأمة غير الأمة.
مجموع أشخاص يساوي قضايا شخصية، أما الأمة فهي واحدة ولها قضية واحدة هي القضية القومية الاجتماعية، ولها حركة واحدة هي الحركة القومية الاجتماعية..
August 20th, 2011, 10:27 pm
ann said:
Two army officers killed in Syria
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194931.html
Gunmen have killed two Syrian army officers in an ambush in the western city of Homs as UN investigators in Damascus are preparing to assess the situation in the country.
Three other officers were wounded in the attack, which a terrorist group carried out on Saturday, the Syrian military said, SANA reported.
Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and UN Emergency Relief Coordinator Valerie Amos said on Thursday that Damascus assured the United Nations humanitarian team that they would be given full access to the places they want to visit.
Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March, with demonstrations being held both against and in support of President Bashar al-Assad’s government.
Hundreds of people have been killed in protest rallies that turned into armed clashes between alleged protesters and state security forces and in organized attacks by armed gangs targeting the Syrian security forces.
Washington says the Syrian government is responsible for the current situation in the country.
But the Syrian government says that the chaos is being orchestrated from outside the country and the security forces have been given clear instructions not to harm civilians.
In addition, Syrian state TV has broadcast reports showing seized weapons caches and confessions by terrorist elements describing how they obtained arms from foreign sources.
August 20th, 2011, 10:30 pm
ss said:
Shami 119 # “Majed ,i doubt that the muslims will be 25% of America.As for Russia it’s well known estimation which takes into account the demographic natural decrease of russian christians and the demographic dynamism of the russian muslims”.
An example of two fellows from the opposition “the fake revolution” are exchanging their wishful thinking of the dimination of Islam to earth. One of them doubt that Muslims will be 25% of America as the other is so proud of achieving this percentage. The otherone, believes, rather sure that Islam will take over Russia. I believe the free people in the world should alert their leaders to these people as their way of thinking holds danger to humanity more than Iranin nuc does
August 20th, 2011, 10:32 pm
ss said:
130 HANS; “the whole support of the USA for the opposition in syria is to pressure Iran which is at the expense of the Syrians, it is very stupid of the west to believe that there is a democracy looming in any of these countries”.
You are 100% right on this one. The deal to demolish Iran nuc has failed, a deal to isolate Syria from the Iran-HA axis has failed. A deal to save Assad in return for some goods to the west has failed. The west finds no alternative other than exercising more pressure on the regime regardless of Syrian people. I do not think they care a lot if secular, hell, evils, or Mbs comes to rule. They want deals, and if deals are not made they are not happy.
August 20th, 2011, 10:38 pm
ss said:
132 Shami,
Even your idea of Islam taking over Russia makes me sick, and I have no doubt you would love to see it taking over the world. You are a typical radical who sees Islam and Sunni Islam as the way for heaven. I cannot stand people with this mentality ruling Syria, the mother of cuivilization, the birth of christianity, the mother of athiests, the mother of kurds, Alawite, Ismailis, Drooz…..I do not think will allow your conservative islam to rule syria….would let you dream of building your Calipha in Russia
August 20th, 2011, 10:43 pm
Tara said:
As The Syrian people shattered the wall of fear built by the regime over 40years and went out demonstrating against the regime, the Mnhebaks are hoping to build another wall of fear called post-Assad chaos and rise of radical Islam trying to deceive the undecided and hoping also to scare the international opinion. But guss what, same tactic was used by Mubarak and Quaddafi to no avail. This is a lost strategy. Try something else.
August 20th, 2011, 10:43 pm
Tara said:
We are back to the mental dullness again. I really miss my old friend.
August 20th, 2011, 10:49 pm
ss said:
We are not trying to scare the western goverments. They said it clearly “we want the Assad out”, and we heard it clearly. It is good to expose the mentality of the opposition to this forum and to readers of this forum. It is pathetic to discuss Islam controlling all of Russia and representing 25% of the US, as if we are proud of this percentage. I think people in this forum had enough venoms
August 20th, 2011, 10:51 pm
Shami said:
SS,
Secularism must be built on a culture ,drinking alcohol,trying to look modern and listening to ali al deek is not secularism.
The Islamic culture helped Europe to evolve in the middle ages ,when the books of muslim thinkers were translated in Toledo and we will have our renaissance too and i believe that it will be through the influence of Europe and the west.As did Japan and South Korea.
Russia too ,should evolve towards the European values of democracy and the culture of continious criticism.
August 20th, 2011, 10:52 pm
ss said:
I would ask everyone on this forum to review your comments. I think the majority do not like your venom
August 20th, 2011, 10:55 pm
ann said:
Russian bloggers condemn Cameron’s ‘suppression of U.K. revolution’
http://sfbayview.com/2011/russian-bloggers-condemn-cameron%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98suppression-of-u-k-revolution%E2%80%99/
British Prime Minister David Cameron has lost legitimacy as a result of the brutal suppression of peaceful demonstrators and should resign. Statements to this effect were made nearly simultaneously by leading Iranian and Libyan politicians.
Khalid Kaaim, deputy head of the Libyan Ministry of Foreign Affairs, stressed that Cameron and his government have completely lost their legitimacy and should leave after the mass protests and violent police actions against the participants in peaceful demonstrations.
The Tripoli official also urged the United Nations Security Council and the international community to abandon their passive attitude in the face of egregious human rights violations in the U.K. Not long before that the “passiveness” of the U.N. Security Council was condemned by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
The Foreign Ministry of the Islamic Republic called on the British police to “exercise restraint.” The ministry spokesman, Rahmin Mehmanparast, said: “The British government should order police to stop violent confrontation with the people. The government must engage in a dialogue with the protesters and listen to their demands so that the situation can return to normal.”
The Iranian Foreign Ministry in this regard demanded that the U.K. protect “civil liberties” and enable “an independent investigation by international human rights organizations” of all the circumstances of the death of the young Black man, Mark Duggan, whose murder served as the detonator for the riots in British cities.
The assessments of the ongoing events in the U.K. made by Iran and Libya are nearly identical to the official reaction of the West to the opposition’s actions in Libya and Syria.
London in February declared the ruling regime of Muammar Qaddafi in Libya illegitimate because the Libyan leader dared to resist the attacks by the armed opposition groups, including Islamists.
Three months later, similar language appeared in the assessment of the actions of the Syrian regime of Bashar Assad [2], allied with Iran. British Foreign Secretary William Hague was one of the first officials to say that, as a result of the repression against its own population, Assad had lost legitimacy.
All these factors served as a justification for the start of military operations against Libya, and now Syria is under the same threat.
Cameron said, “We cannot speculate on human rights in relation to the events in the U.K.”
But what do the British authorities do? Particular attention should be paid to the ways in which Cameron’s regime has suppressed the British revolution. In a hasty fashion, the so-called courts – after only three days of the unrest – began to hand out harsh penalties to protesters, most of whom were jailed pending the outcome of their trials.
Cameron himself had vowed that water cannons and plastic bullets would be used against peaceful demonstrators. Is it possible to ignore such a blatant violation of human rights in one of the leading democratic countries?
Many in the Russian blogosphere feel sorry for the Brits who fell victim to their excessive tolerance. Earlier, Britain took the liberty of harshly criticizing Russia for violating human rights during the counter-terrorist operation in the North Caucasus, as well as for the fact that Moscow does not enter into a dialogue with the “opposition.”
The actions of the British prime minister and his henchmen the police towards protesters of color amount to racism, especially as the police turn a blind eye to the actions of the Nazis from the so-called English “Defense League” that, with the tacit approval of Cameron, started the violent repression of the revolution.
Many have pointed out that TV channels tried to present the information in such a way as to show that the rioters were predominantly Africans or Pakistanis. However, this is not the case. Various blogs display numerous photos of white people who came to protest in the streets along with their Black brothers against the actions of the authorities and the deterioration of living conditions.
Moreover, according to news agency JTA, the revolution has also affected the Jewish community in Britain. Its representatives, for example in Tottenham, were dispersed by mounted police when they came to protest against the racist and pro-Nazi activities.
However, for some people it would be very disadvantageous if the events in the U.K. looked like anything other than a “race riot.”
British bloggers have reported that skinheads smashed a few shops belonging to Muslims. In this sense, the behavior of the British prime minister makes bloggers question whether he sympathizes with the infamous British Nazi, Oswald Mosley.
The officials in London recognize that the prisons are overcrowded by those who tried to protest against the blatant tyranny of the police. What right does the country that states that it is democratic have to deal with peaceful protesters in this way? There are children among the detainees. Has British democracy fallen so low as to fight its future, the younger generation?
There are those who defend Cameron. They say that there is no comparison between the rebels in Libya and Syria and the scoundrels who dared raise their hand against one of the cradles of world democracy.
Of course, there is no comparison. Suffice it to stress the humanistic aspirations of British protesters, who, in contrast to the Syrian and Libyan opposition, were not seen murdering police officers. Slanderous accusations of massive looting of shops by the opposition are spread by the media lured by the London authorities.
There are statements, allegedly by the opposition, on internet social networks that would suggest the arson and looting are the work of provocateurs hired by the police and MI6.
They have one goal: to demonize and discredit the British revolution. At the very least, there is the presumption of innocence and indictments can be made only by the judicial authorities, not newspaper people.
Even if some of the demonstrators took something from a supermarket, is that enough of a reason to conduct a punitive police operation? In some areas, the revolutionary course of events and actions of the authorities interfered with the supply of food. People need something to eat. Is it any wonder that people are hungry and grab at food?
Now, after several months of civil war, no one would dare call the Libyan opposition “peaceful demonstrators.” The same applies to the glorious successors of the “Arab revolution” in Syrian Hama, where the opposition quite democratically cut off the heads of the “Assad supporters” and set government buildings on fire.
The question arises: If the West supported the actions of those “peaceful demonstrators” with air strikes in Libya, what kind of punishment does Britain deserve?
When the riots began dwindling, many people in London sighed quietly. Yet, how long will the peace last? After all, the event showed the weakness of the former “mistress of the seas” in the face of popular protests.
And most importantly, can Great Britain and the West open their mouths in defense of “peaceful demonstrators” in Libya and Syria?
It is important to pay attention to the fact that at last Libya and Iran have united in their opposition to the U.K. That in itself deserves attention since for a long time, Qaddafi believed Iran to be one of his main enemies. Iran was not particularly respectful towards the “Libyan upstart” either. However, the aggressive actions of the West, including Britain, against Libya and Syria forced Tripoli and Tehran to reconcile their positions. Indeed, it is time for Iran and Libya to stop the long and unnecessary strife. Apparently, they found the “Achilles heel” of the U.K.
August 20th, 2011, 10:59 pm
ss said:
141# Shami “The Islamic culture helped Europe to evolve in the middle ages ,when the books of muslim thinkers were translated and we will have our revival too”.
It would be nice to explain your revival to the people in this post. As I am sure many will be looking forward to see what is your future plans. Religious is for you to go and have a connection with your creator, if the stone gives you that, and you are peaceful, then good for you. We should respect all religions and it is not a race that my religion or your religion will dominate the world. The way you think is no different than Nazi way of thinking. The world is not looking for another Nazi Hetler. Revival is far from your dreams
August 20th, 2011, 11:01 pm
Shami said:
SS,i told you it’s through democratization….i believe like Aristotle that humans are homo politicus ,they are rational in their political choice ,muslims included.
This irrational extremism is result of decades of totalitarian dictatorships.
And the Europeans are aware of this reality,their southern neighbors became social bombs.
August 20th, 2011, 11:10 pm
Dale Andersen said:
Memo To: ALL ASSADIST (removed for personal insult)
Some really good news gleaned from the CIA/EU/Jew/Saudi/al-Qaeda/Salafi press:
“…the Turks are pushing hard for {a consensus amongst the Syrian opposition figures] as soon as possible, with an eye toward putting out a declaration on Sunday. And on Friday, dozens of Middle East experts signed a joint letter to US President Barack Obama praising him for his administration’s statement last week calling for Assad to step aside…”
Cool stuff. If a consensus can be reached, the money will start flowing to buy arms to equip a military of Syrians bent on bringing down the Assad Mafia. The morale in the Regime’s military right now is low. Bashar’s soldiers hate what they’re being ordered to do. Once Bashar and Maher lose their protecting shield, it won’t be long before they’re applying for permanent residency in Iran, Zimbabwe or Venezuela…
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z4d2zmViGwo/Tf-uTYaLB0I/AAAAAAAAAbk/dBuUSPn_u18/s320/ventriloquist.JPG
August 20th, 2011, 11:15 pm
ss said:
145 Shami “This irrational extremism is result of decades of totalitarian dictatorships.And theThis irrational extremism is result of decades of totalitarian dictatorships.And the Europeans are aware of this reality,”;
You are talking about democracy????
You are accusing me of irrational extremist. What is it, extremism, in what I told you? I said that we should respect all religions; while you were predicting the Islam ruling of Russia or becoming the dominant religion; so 1. I think your idea is very extremist
If dictatorships has taught me to respect christianity, jeudism, ismaili, drooz, kurds, sunni, shia, and alawite then I welcome this distatorship and I consider way better than your conservative, narrow minded view of your religious as becoming the dominant religion in Russia, and perhaps 25% of America; so 2. it is clear who is extremist.
“the Europeans are aware of this reality,”; I do not think the European are aware yet about your idea of Islam dominating Russia until you posted that today. I think the European today are well informed about another reality; they may be shoked to hear you Shami the Muawia of Russia
August 20th, 2011, 11:45 pm
ann said:
Egypt says Israeli response to deaths insufficient
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/21/us-egypt-israel-idUSTRE77J1Y620110821
CAIRO (Reuters) – Egypt welcomed a joint investigation with Israel on the killing of five Egyptian security personnel during an Israeli border operation, but said on Sunday the response was insufficient given the gravity of the situation.
Egypt said on Saturday it would recall its ambassador from Israel, insisting the killing of five Egyptian security personnel while Israeli forces were pursuing gunmen across the border was a breach of its 1979 peace treaty with the Jewish state.
Egypt’s Foreign Ministry later called in the Israeli charge d’affaires, delivered a protest and demanded a joint investigation into the deaths.
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Israel regretted the deaths, which followed attacks in its border area that had killed eight people and sparked the most serious crisis in ties with Egypt since longtime ruler Hosni Mubarak’s overthrow in February.
Barak also said he had instructed the Israeli army to conduct a joint investigation with Egypt.
“The Egyptian government considers the approval to conduct a joint investigation to uncover the circumstances of the incident a fundamental step to prevent the occurrence of such accidents as Egyptian blood is not cheap and the government will not accept that Egyptian blood gets shed for nothing,” Egypt’s state news agency MENA said.
The Israeli decision to work with Egypt to investigate the killings is “positive in appearance but does not fit with the weight of the incident and the state of Egyptians’ outrage from the Israeli actions,” MENA added, quoting a cabinet statement released after a second round of a ministerial crisis meeting headed by Prime Minister Essam Sharaf late on Saturday.
“And as Egypt confirms it is keen on the peace with Israel, Tel Aviv also will have to share its responsibilities in protecting that peace,” MENA said.
The statement said the government had asked for a deadline for the joint investigation to conclude its work, adding that crisis meetings would continue until the results are released.
The cabinet, with army generals in attendance, has been holding crisis meetings daily since Friday after thousands of Egyptians protested in front of the Israeli embassy in Cairo overnight, burning Israeli flags, tearing down metal barriers and demanding the expulsion of the Israeli envoy.
Hundreds of Egyptians continue to protest outside the embassy. One protester burned the Israeli flag and replaced it with the Egyptian one, a Reuters witness reported.
August 20th, 2011, 11:51 pm
Haytham Khoury said:
An interesting link dedicated particularly to Aboud and Tara (I think both of you are from Homs)
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/notes-from-homs-a-reporters-trip-to-one-of-syrias-most-rebellious-cities/#preview
August 20th, 2011, 11:53 pm
ss said:
146 Dale Andersen#
“ALL ASSADIST (removed for personal insult)”
It looks you started your post by personal insults; this is typical.
“the Turks are pushing hard for {a consensus amongst the Syrian opposition figures] as soon as possible”
The Turks, The Turks, Turjey, Erdogan, pushing, yelling, shouting, condenming….we heard that for the last 2 months. I would ask if Turkey wants some help from the Syrian army to settle its war againts the kurds. HOw is the fight there by the way. Is Erdogan winning????. Turkey will push for sanctions; bring it on; who is the loser, Syria or Turkey?? I believe Syria was a great and close market for Turkish goods.
“The morale in the Regime’s military right now is low. Bashar’s soldiers hate what they’re being ordered to do”. I remind you that you once said in this forum that the Assad will fall in Ramadan and even you gave a date 10th of Ramadan. There was no crack in the army except 7 men who are presumed to be from the Syrian army and now they created their own army; by the way; how are they doing??we have not head from them for a while now.
August 20th, 2011, 11:56 pm
ann said:
‘Israel grabbing any chance to sabotage Palestinian UN vote’
August 20th, 2011, 11:58 pm
Shami said:
SS,we will inshallah erase extremism through democracy and education ,there is no other ways.
The smart people when they visit Syria ,they like our cultural heritage,the right things in our culture ,not menhebak,shabiha,lies,corruption and hypocrisy ,you can not build secularism on such weak foundation,we as people,we have strong cultural foundations.
August 21st, 2011, 12:01 am
N.Z. said:
Hans,
“Sunni in syria and many of them made millions of $ during Bashar period and that’s why many Sunni merchants in damascus and Aleppo ( the biggest two cities) are aopposing the fall of the regime”
Believe me, it is in spite of bashar, the little leeway the regime gave in the past ten years, many businessmen seized the opportunity, and this development is a major cause for the unrest. It is not only “Sunni merchants”, more accurately will be, including Sunnis.
The West has a vested interest in the Arab world. Obviously. They installed all the dictators in our region at the same time. Democratic countries are harder to control. Dictatorships are far easier to control, they go off the mark, they will be toppled either by a coup, invasion or coerced to execute an order.
I detest anyone who will call an Arab Christian/ Alawite/ Kurd/ Sunni/ Shiite a minority. They are Arabs before anything else. Fares Khoury is an Arab national, Youssef alAzmeh, Sultan al-Atrash, and of course Salah eldeen al-Ayoubi, I make sure to visit his grave every time I am in Damascus. Just to name a few. Malaysia is as ethnically diverse as Syria, look where they are today and where we are!
Read Haitham Khouri post, fundamentalism is not exclusive to Islam.
This regime has one concern, its survival. It is not concern about any group. They are neither sectarian, nor secular, nor ideological. They are a family who ruled Syria with an iron fist through nepotism and corruption. Treason on their part, complacency and fear on our part. They ruled for over forty years.
Sectarianism is not in our genes.
August 21st, 2011, 12:04 am
ss said:
“SS,we will inshallah erase extremism through democracy and education ,there is no other ways”.
This sentence is exactly the opposite of you educated us in your previous 4-5 posts. Let me correct this sentence according to what I got from your posts.
I think you meant to say: SS, we will INSHALLAH erase secularism and freedom of women, freedom of religious, through islamic education and shariaa education, there is no other ways.
The one who cheers Islam to be the dominant religion is indeed extremist. So before you eradicate extremist like myself I think you should review your own extremist agenda
August 21st, 2011, 12:05 am
Shami said:
SS,let buti and hassoun builds for you sharia schools,clerical community and asad his menhebak culture which can integrate pictures of nasrallah and khamainei.
it’s not the right culture for the syrian people.
August 21st, 2011, 12:12 am
ann said:
Only Russia able to prevent Libya-style repeat in Syria
August 21st, 2011, 12:12 am
ann said:
Families bid farewell to Sinai dead
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/488042
The families of the security personnel who were killed in Sinai this week received the bodies of their loved ones at the Almaza airport on Friday and draped their coffins with the Egyptian flag.
In Helwan, hundreds of residents gathered in front of the spartan two-room apartment rented by the family of Taha Mohamed Ibrahim, who was killed at the border with Israel.
His father says he has five daughters and three sons. His youngest son died last year. “I am 66 years old and I have no source of livelihood. My martyred son used to help me and his youngest sister cover living expenses.”
His mother said they have not yet come to terms with his death. “We find solace in the fact that he died in the holy month of Ramadan,” she said. “Taha used to take a 15-day vacation every now and then and fill our home with happiness.”
She called on authorities to extend a helping hand to the family, especially as their sole breadwinner died while on duty.
In a small village in Qalyubia, meanwhile, residents tried to comfort Osama Galal Imam’s parents by telling them their son died as a martyr in the holy month. He was the seventh son in a family that has eight children.
Residents lined up to receive the coffin. His eldest sibling and father had flown to Almaza to accompany it to the village. His father kept a photo of his son in his hand. “Thank God my son has died a martyr,” he repeated.
Osama’s mother fainted when she received the news about her son, who had been with his family only on Monday. The family said he spent a one-week vacation with them and bade his mother and sisters farewell as though he felt he would not see them again. “I love you a lot,” he told them.
Osama al-Sayyed, a friend, said, “He was more like a brother to me than a friend. We had the same name, too.”
Sayyed said Osama, his friend since primary school, used to say that he wanted to complete his military service in order to find a job, help his father, and help his sisters marry.
Finally, Ahmed Galal, the policeman who died at the border, leaves a wife and an infant. He was born in Suhag but resided in Assiut. There, he married and embarked on his career.
Israel fired on Egyptian security forces at the 79 border sign – 20 km north of Taba – on Thursday.
The Interior Ministry said the incident took place while security forces were combing the borders with Israel in search of people who attacked a police station in Arish.
The statement said Israel fired randomly at an Egyptian security patrol around sunset. Security sources said the unknown armed group which attacked Israeli soldiers in Eilat managed to sneak into Egypt and hide in a mountainous area. An Israeli air raid killed the three Egyptian security personnel. Israel said the killings happened “by mistake”.
Other sources said an Israeli Apache jet mistook them for the Eilat assailants.
August 21st, 2011, 12:30 am
Revlon said:
ALSha3b Yureed I3dam AlRa23ees
The people want to hang Jr
Rastan, Homs, last night
A message to Ms Luna AlShible, ahead of her interview with jr!
What he may have to say has long become irrelevent to his dismal fate.
He can run, but he can not hide!
August 21st, 2011, 12:41 am
ann said:
Death toll rises in Gaza-Israel violence
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/08/201182123329239334.html
August 21st, 2011, 12:42 am
sf94123 said:
153. N.Z.
“I detest anyone who will call an Arab Christian/ Alawite/ Kurd/ Sunni/ Shiite a minority. They are Arabs before anything else”
What are you talking about? PLEASE!!
A Christian or any other minority in Syria can not be president or a prime minister! Both must be a Sunni Muslim.
That’s why Sunni Muslims in Syria never accepted an Alwaite president. They resented that fact the Alawites are in charge since 1968.
The west and SA took advantage of their hatred and desire of revenge and found a golden opportunity to curb the Iranian expansion in the Levant and to contain HA in S. Lebanon… No body cares about the poor Syrians, democracy and freedom in the Middle East. You don’t have to go far, Look at the democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is so sad that ordinary people will suffer and die in one country to advance the agenda of another one. Syria is no different. Hypocrisy at it’s best.
August 21st, 2011, 12:46 am
ann said:
As armed conflict erupts, Erdogan demonstrates his actual priority
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/08/20/as-armed-conflicts-erupts-erdogan-demonstrates-his-actual-priority/
If you don’t believe Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan has regional ambitions, consider where he is this weekend, as neighboring Syria sinks into chaos and the Turkish military wages a campaign against PKK-related targets in northern Iraq.
Erdogan’s in Somalia. He arrived on Friday. Officially, he is representing Turkey and the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) in recognizing the plight of Somalia’s starving people and arranging for aid. But that’s not as straightforward as it might seem. The UN, many individual nations like the US, and various global charities are providing enormous amounts of aid to Somalia – and so is Iran. It’s in part because of the latter connection that Erdogan has had this sudden fit of humanitarianism.
Iran has been cultivating links in the Horn of Africa for some years now, and regional reporting indicates that Tehran’s support for the Al-Shabaab insurgency in Somalia, brokered through the Afewerki regime in Eritrea, was intensifying through the summer. Al-Shabaab, meanwhile, has been blocking the distribution of aid from the World Food Program and other non-Muslim sources, while being picky about which Muslim aid it allows through. Al-Shabaab controls only part of Somalia, but the impact is still significant (especially when combined with the endemic theft and resale of donated goods).
Erdogan’s oddly timed trip comes in the wake of an OIC meeting at which he reportedly addressed his fellow Islamic leaders on the topic of Western arrogance and the failures of capitalism in relation to the Somali famine (this in spite of the literal billions in aid provided by Western governments and private organizations).
But it also comes at the end of a crucial two-week period that started with Al-Shabaab announcing a withdrawal from Mogadishu, and continued with an unprecedented level of success against the insurgency by African Union troops deployed in the AMISOM mission. It is too soon to say that Al-Shabaab is “defeated,” but the momentum has turned against it – and hence against a strategic line of effort being prosecuted by Iran.
The timing of Erdogan’s visit comes off as doing a victory lap for the success of third parties (the African Union and the US), as well as putting down a stake where Iran has just suffered a reversal. The location is geographically significant, as it splits the area of the Great Crossroads in which Iran has been diligently pursuing influence. Eritrea and Sudan lie to the northwest, and Yemen, where Iran supports the Houthi rebels, to the northeast across the Gulf of Aden. (The Horn of Africa is also, of course, a geostrategic hinge point in its own right.)
As indicated in the last link (and in an earlier one from my 15 August post), regional observers are calling Iran’s Horn of Africa/Yemen strategy her “back-up plan” for when the Assad regime falls in Syria. Erdogan showing up right smack dab in the middle of it, just in time to associate himself with the glory of the US-AMISOM surge against Al-Shabaab – and perhaps seek to demonstrate that he can get aid delivered where others couldn’t – has all the air of exploiting an opportunity.
Consider what else is going on. Erdogan’s own troops have mounted an assault in northern Iraq after the killing of dozens of Turkish soldiers by the Kurdish PKK insurgency. The Turkish national security council decided on Friday to turn surveillance outposts in northern Iraq into support bases, in order to sustain continuous operations there – a move Iraq is likely to object to. The internal situation in Syria becomes more precarious by the hour; thousands of refugees have flooded Turkey, and although Ankara denies imposing a “buffer zone” along the border, reports that precautionary planning is underway are undoubtedly true.
To the south, meanwhile, a guerrilla invasion of Israel has been mounted through Egypt, and Hamas has launched a deadly rocket assault. An Israeli force pursuing the terrorist raiders killed five Egyptian soldiers, prompting the Egyptian government to announce – and then deny – that it had recalled its ambassador to Israel.
With all these shooting matches going on right in his neighborhood, Erdogan’s heart and vision are with the regional power situation: the larger rivalry with Iran. The significance of position in this rivalry is evident in his rush to parade past cheering crowds in Somalia when the opportunity suddenly presented itself (not to mention prompting sycophantic opinion pieces in Turkey, with of course, the obligatory Ottoman historical references). Erdogan is driving down the center of Iran’s once-secondary axis of regional projection.
Michael Ledeen speculates at Pajamas today that if it looks like war – walks and talks like war – we might want to sit up and think about what’s going on. His instincts are in the right place, I think. The “next war” isn’t going to start and end like World War II, or even like the Cold War. But regimes will change, along with alliances and alignments, and schemes of regional order and balances of regional power.
The US at the moment is perilously close to being used for the purposes of others, like a dying and dithering empire. In spite of the significance of the setback for Al-Shabaab in Somalia, to everything from the piracy problem to dominance in the Middle East, the US is nowhere to be seen in the strategic aftermath of this tactical victory. We have no idea what to do with it. But Erdogan does.
August 21st, 2011, 12:52 am
Revlon said:
Confessions of a masked officer in the Presidential palace of a Asad’s plan to execute Shabbeeha!!!
– What is happening in the palace is terrifying
– Asad’s are using every soul to serve their interest in staying in power
– To the brave soldiers: the nation is bigger than Bashar
– To the Syrian people: I assure you that Bashar is falling
– To Shabbeeha: Bashar is using your need for subsistence to further his interests. Be careful! They have decided on a plan to execute all of you in due course. The mercents who used to pay you, have already moved with their money out of the country.
– Soon, I will join the people in demonstrations.
خطة لقتل الشبيحة
ضابط من القصر الجمهوري
August 21st, 2011, 1:17 am
Ali said:
The Plan To Destabilize Syria
August 21st, 2011, 1:43 am
Revlon said:
Rebuttal statement by “Union of Homs Neighbourhoods” of the Syrian TV video claims that captured the assassination of policeman Raed 3ashoor.
1. We promptly reported the incident at the time.
2. The young policeman was assassinated by security agents, in an open place, less than 700 meters of the Command of City Police and 100 meters from the nearby Security checkpoint of Bab Tudmor. The timing, Friday night means no cars could enter city centre without being stopped and inspected at security check points.
3. The incident took place in a central, open and well trafficked area, conveniently covered by a fixed camera, and at a time when scores of people were emerging from Taraweeh prayers.
4. The white Kea sedan with license plate 40441 is well known to people of Homs.
5. It has been used in shooting at people many times before. It always comes from security guarded checkpoints!
6. Having failed to produce a single credible video of armed resistance in the city, the regime has sought to stage this assassination to blame it on city people, in order to justify its invasion of city neighbourhoods.
7. The people of Homs city condemn the killing of people and the invasion of the city.
إتحاد أحياء مدينة حمص – الثورة السورية 2011
رد أهالي حمص على الفيدو الذي عرضه تلفزيون النظام الموصوف بالسورية
عرض تلفزيون النظام فيديو لرجل شرطة يدعى رائد عاشور وسيارة كيا ريو بيضاء فيها شخصين قاما بإطلاق النار عليه مما أدى إلى وفاته من ساعتها:
أولاً: لقد نوهنا في تقرير يوم السبت الماضي عن ملخص أحداث حمص أن رجال الأمن قاموا بقتل الشاب المذكرو في مكان مكشوف يبعد عن قيادة شرطة حمص أقل من 700متر وعن حاجز باب تدمر أقل من 200 متر, وفي وسط المدينة… التي لايدخلها يوم الجمعة في وقت الليل سيارة إلا ويتم تفتيشها.
ثانياً: لقد تمت عملية القتل في وسط شارع الحميدية وفي منطقة مكشوفة لخلق كثير في وسط حمص, الساعة العاشرة والنصف, في وقت خروج الناس من صلاة التراويح, وتم تصويرها من مكان يكشف العملية تماماً وبكاميرا ثابتة, فإما أن الأمن هو من قام بالعملية أو أنه أراد من كل الناس أن ترى وتسمع بالقصة وعرف قبل وقت بوقوعها فوضع تلك الكاميرت لفرط ذكائه!!.
ثالثاً: إن سيارة الكيا ريو البيضاء التي تحمل الرقم (40441) هي سيارة معروفة من قبل أهل حمص وقد نفذت أكثر من مرة عمليات إطلاق نار على الناس وكانت نقطة إنطلاقها وعودتها هي الحواجز الأمنية الموجودة في الأحياء.
رابعاً: بعد أن فشل النظام بتطبيق أو تركيب فيديو واحد لمسلحين في مدينة حمص كعادتها قبل اجتياح مدينة أو منطقة, عمد عشية اجتياحه للمدينة بتنفيذ هذه العملية وتصويرها لتبرير إجرامه وأعماله.
خامساً: إن أهل حمص يرفضون عمليات القتل التي يقوم بها النظام و ترفض اجتياحه للمدينة تحت حجج واهية ومكشوفة.
4 hours ago •
August 21st, 2011, 1:53 am
annie said:
160. sf94123 said:
153. N.Z.
says “I detest anyone who will call an Arab Christian/ Alawite/ Kurd/ Sunni/ Shiite a minority. They are Arabs before anything else”
To the best of my knowledge, Kurds are not Arabs. This is why some object to the Syrian national anthem.([our] den of arabism is a sacred sanctuary)
August 21st, 2011, 1:56 am
Syria no kandahar said:
Revlon and احتقار العقل
Any one who respects others brain will not bring an evidence consisting of someone talking from his behind as an evidence of any thing.you and your revolutionists terrorists friends are the biggest manipulators in history.when Jad connected the vidio of killing the soldier Ashour by your terrorist criminal friends
You lied and stated it was done by Shabaha,and now you want people to believe
Someone talking from his behind.what will be you response when you are presented with your criminal friends in a vidio similar to this.you are a perfect fit for the say:ان لم تستح فقل ما تشأ
August 21st, 2011, 1:59 am
Ali said:
@163 Revlon.
These claims are laughable! “The young policeman was assassinated by security agents”. How is this in any means the work of security forces. Why would they kill one of their own? Do you think before posting? The Syrian army doesn’t only protect civilians, but each other too. This man was killed by none other that those barbaric, brutal,criminal assassins that have the job of kissing Americas ass.
August 21st, 2011, 2:27 am
N.Z. said:
164. annie, 160. sf94123
Annie, Sorry, they are Kurdish. I forgot to mention Armenians, both ethnicity are part of the Syrian fabric.
My point is simple. All these groups should not be called a “minority”. They are Syrians. Point finale.
160, They have to follow the constitution, the president Sunni, as well it stipulates that the president must be 40 years or older. They changed the latter and denounced their sect to become presidents, senior and junior. Equal rights to all citizens, regardless of their affiliation/ethnicity. A country were the rule of law comes before the family last name and association. Were we build institutions free from corruption.
August 21st, 2011, 2:37 am
N.Z. said:
Do you agree?
جلود وخدام شاركا لعقود في سياسات القمع والتنكيل والآن يسعيان لإمتطاء صهوة الثورة، عيب والله
August 21st, 2011, 3:29 am
ss said:
Tara#116
“Based on above statistics and if you live in the US or Russia, you should plan from now where you want your kids to immigrate. That is called long term planning… The problem is, we Muslims are ubiquitous. We are everywhere and we bite.”
“We are everywhere and we bite”
“We are everywhere and we bite”
“We are everywhere and we bite”
“We are everywhere and we bite”
“We are everywhere and we bite”
“We are everywhere and we bite”
No comment!
August 21st, 2011, 6:59 am
OFF THE WALL said:
المعضلة السورية ومآلاتها المحتملة
الأحد, 21 أغسطس 2011
ياسين الحاج صالح
مع دخول الأزمة الوطنية السورية شهرها السادس، تقف جميع الأطراف المحلية والدولية المعنية بها أمام معضلات عسيرة. الانتفاضة تواجه معضلة. إذا ثابرت على الاعتماد على التظاهرات السلمية أداة احتجاج أساسية لها في مواجهة نظام لا يمتنع عن القتل، تحفظ تفوقها الأخلاقي والوطني، لكنها تدفع ثمناً إنسانياً باهظاً. وهي في الوقت نفسه لا تستطيع مواجهة العنف بالعنف لأسباب مبدئية وعملية معاً، ولا التعويل على التدخل الخارجي لأن من شأنه أن يدرج الانتفاضة في «لعبة الأمم»، فتخسر روحها. فهل يسعها، من دون سند داخلي أو خارجي، تحقيق هدفها الأولي المتمثل في إسقاط النظام؟
الانتفاضة تعالج معضلتها عبر استيعاب ضربات النظام، والاستمرار من جديد. وعبر محاصرة النظام أخلاقياً وإعلامياً، واستنزافه مادياً ومعنوياً، تعمل الانتفاضة على أن يكون الزمن حليفاً لكسب المعركة ضد النظام.
النظام أيضاً أمام معضلة. ما لم يتمكن من تحقيقه بالعنف (الأمني)، لم يتمكن من تحقيقه بمزيد من العنف أيضاً. فهل يمكن لمزيد على المزيد من العنف أن يثمر؟ قصف المدن بالطيران الحربي مثلاً؟ ربما. لكن هذا سيعني تدمير البلد. وماذا يستفيد حكام الغصب من تدمير البلد؟ وماذا سيحكمون أصلاً إن دمروا البلد؟ هذا فوق أن من شأن نهج مجنون كهذا أن يجر تدخلاً دولياً، يتسبب بمزيد من الضرر على سورية، من دون أن يستفيدوا هم منه.
في الوقت نفسه لا يبدو أن من شأن الاكتفاء بمستوى المزيد من العنف (أمني وميلشياوي وعسكري) أن يطفئ الانتفاضة أو يحد من انتشارها. بل يبدو أن المجتمع السوري يستوعب موجات التصعيد العنفي المتتابعة، ويستأنف احتجاجاته بعزم متجدد. قد يستطيع النظام أن يحجّم لبعض الوقت بعض بؤر الاحتجاج الكثيرة، على نحو ما فعل بدرعا والرستن وتلبيسة وحمص، لكنها عادت بنشاط إلى ميادين الاحتجاج ما إن خف عنها الضغط الأمني والعسكري. والأكيد أنه لا يستطيع إخماد جميع البؤر طوال الوقت. هذا يتجاوز قواه وموارده المادية.
في الوقت نفسه لم يعد ثمة مخرج من دائرة العنف التي أسر النظام نفسه والبلاد فيها. فات أوان مبادرات سياسية أكثر جدية من طرفه، بما في ذلك وقف العنف والإفراج عن معتقلي الانتفاضة. ولم يعد أحد يثق به، ومن شأن تراجعه أن يلهب الاحتجاجات الشعبية أكثر. لقد أحرق النظام ورقته «السياسية»، ولا يبدو أن ورقته العسكرية تجديه نفعاً ما لم تبلغ حد الجنون. فإن بلغته، لا يبقى هناك بلد يحكمه.
ومن وجوه معضلة النظام أن رهانه منصبّ على سحق الانتفاضة بغرض إعادة الأمور لما كانت عليه قبل تفجرها، لكن إذا نجح في مسعاه، فسيدين الحكم للساحقين، أي للشبيحة ومن في حكمهم، وسنعود ثلاثين عاماً إلى الوراء، وليس نصف عام فقط.
وإلى الانتفاضة والنظام، يبدو أن القوى الدولية المعنية بالشأن السوري تواجه معضلة تخصها. فوراء التعارض الظاهر بين غضب القوى الغربية وتركيا الشديد من النظام وبين تواضع مواقفها العملية منه وتعويلها حتى اليوم على أن يتصرف بطريقة مسؤولة، ثمة تضارب في الخيارات: فإذا سكتت هذه القوى على النظام تصرف بطريقة طائشة، تحرجها أمام شعوبها أو قطاعات منها وأمام «المجتمع المدني العالمي»، من دون ضمان أن تبقى مفاعيل طيش النظام النازعة للاستقرار قيد الداخل السوري. وفي الوقت نفسه لا يبدو أن من شأن التصعيد ضده في صورة عقوبات محددة وضغوط سياسية أن يثمر شيئاً بالنظر إلى الطابع العصبوي المغلق وغير العقلاني للنظام. هذا بينما ليس لهذه القوى مصلحة في تدخل عسكري لا يريده السوريون أيضاً.
الدول العربية المعنية، دول الخليج ومصر والأردن أيضاً في مأزق. فهي لا تستطيع أن تداوم على الصمت بينما يتشكل ما يقارب إجماعاً دولياً على إدانة النظام، وبينما تعلو فيها أصوات داخلية غاضبة ضد سلوكه المتجاوز لكل حد. وهي أيضاً لا تستطيع أن تفعل شيئاً ضده، بمفردها، ولا يبدو واضحاً لأحد إن كان هناك جهد دولي منظم ضد النظام في وقت قريب أو في أي وقت.
وروسيا في الوضع نفسه. فالنظام لا يوفر لها ما تقنع به نفسها والعالم من مبررات الدفاع عنه ما دام مستمراً في قتل محكوميه، وهي في الوقت نفسه لا تريد أن تساند القوى الغربية وحلف الناتو في عزل النظام وربما ضربه، ما من شأنه أن يعزز الهيمنة الدولية لهذه القوى، ويضعفها هي. وحتى حلفاء النظام الممانعون يبدون مرتبكين. حماس نأت بنفسها مبكراً لأنها لا تستطيع تحمل أكلاف التماهي مع سياسة النظام. وحزب الله توقف عن إطلاق التصريحات المؤيدة له بعد أن رأى ما أثارته من غضب في الشارع السوري، وإن مضت قناة «المنار» في ترداد الرواية الرسمية الكاذبة. وحدها إيران تبدو حاسمة في الوقـوف إلـى جانب النظام حتى النهاية.
وهكذا، تبدو سورية عنواناً لمعضلة جامعة. ففي أي اتجاه يمكن أن تنحل؟
الأمر تابع لتطورات الوضع السوري.
لا ريب أن الاحتمال الأعدل والأوفق للمصلحة الوطنية السورية هو أن تنجح الانتفاضة في إزالة النظام بقواها الذاتية. ستواجه سورية بعد التغيير كل أنواع المشكلات، بدرجة تفوق ما تواجهه مصر وتونس اليوم، لكن لعلها ستكون في وضع أفضل لمعالجة مشكلاتها بالنظر لاتساع قاعدة الانشغال العام، ولتوافق نمط التغيير هذا مع النازع الاستقلالي الذي طبع سورية منذ ما قبل تكون كيانها الحديث قبل أقل من قرن.
الاحتمال الثاني هو «حكم الشبيحة»: أن يحل النظام معضلته بحل سورية، دولة ومجتمعاً وكياناً ومعنى. سيكون هذا أسوأ ما يمكن أن يحصل للبلد، وسيسجل الانحلال الاجتماعي والأخلاقي مستويات غير مسبوقة، وستسود القسوة ويعم الفساد ويرتفع منسوب الكراهية العام، وستكون سورية معزولة وتعاني من أزمات اقتصادية خانقة، وسنشهد موجة هائلة من هجرة الشباب والأدمغة والكفاءات من البلد.
الاحتمال الثالث هو «لعبة الأمم»، أي تحكم القوى الخارجية، الغربية والعربية، بالداخل السوري. قد تنشأ أوضاع سياسية توفر قدراً أكبر من الحرية، لكنها ستكون أوضاعاً غير مستقرة، وستفقد سورية استقلالها وسيطرتها على مصيرها لسنوات. وهذا لن يتأخر في أن يضع الحرية المكتسبة بمشقة في مواجهة الاستقلال، فيقلل من شأنها.
فرص التسوية الداخلية فاتت. النظام لم يظهر أي استعداد لدفع الثمن (نهاية الحكم الأبدي وحاكمية الاستخبارات)، والانتفاضة لم تعد تقبل بما هو أقل من ذلك.
August 21st, 2011, 7:04 am
OFF THE WALL said:
مجتمع أهلي/ مدني! بقلم: ميشيل كيلو
ميشيل كيلو – صحيفة السفير
الأصل في المجتمع المدني أنه مجتمع يعطي الأولوية في منظوراته ونظمه ومصالحه للفرد باعتباره مواطنا حرا في الدولة، يرى الجماعات من خلاله وبدلالته باعتبارها جماعات تتكون من مواطنين أحرارا ينظم القانون علاقاتها معهم، سواء انضووا في هيئات وأحزاب ومؤسسات أم لم يفعلوا. والأصل في المجتمع الأهلي أنه مجتمع يعطي الأولوية للجماعة ويرى الفرد من خلالها، باعتباره منتميا ثانويا أو تابعا إليها، ينضوي فيها ويلتزم بقيمها ومصالحها، فلا تعريف له إلا بواسطتها، ولا دور له إلا بدلالتها أو من خلالها، مع أن هذا المجتمع غالبا ما يكون تقليديا ومغلقا، بصورة كلية أو جزئية .
وفي حين يحمل المجتمع المدني القيم التي تتصل بحرية المواطن كفرد ويقوم عليها، ومنها قبل كل شيء المواطنة والفردية والحرية الشخصية والعامة والاستنارة والانفتاح والحزبية المرتبطة بالفردية كنزعة والمصالح العامة المعرفة من خلال مصالح المواطنين الأفراد … الخ، يرتبط المجتمع الأهلي بقيم تبدو معاكسة لها : من أولوية الجماعات، التي تعتبر الدولة أعلى أشكالها وتنظيماتها، إلى تغليب قيم التضامن والوحدة والتماسك والتقليد والهوية والخصوصية، وترجيح الطابع العضوي لأبنية وأدوار المؤسسات السياسية، بما في ذلك مؤسسة الدولة، التي لا تكون مهمتها الرئيسة عندئذ تنمية الحرية، كما هو حالها في المجتمع المدني، بل تنمية كل ما هو جمعي مثل ذلك الضرب من “النزعة الوطنية “، الذي يربط الوطن بالسلطة أو ببعض الجماعات الاجتماعية، ويعلي ما يسميه “المصلحة العامة”، بما هي مصلحة سلطوية أساسيا، على مصالح المواطنين الفردية. والدولة هنا كيان يحتوي المجتمع، وهي تعبيره السياسي الذي يخرجه من المجال العام، بينما هي في المجتمع المدني هذا المجتمع نفسه، الذي له حاملا مشتركا معها هو المواطن الحر، الذي يجب أن يتيحا له التجسد الحر والتعاقدي داخلهما.
ومع أن المجتمع المدني يعتبر مرحلة في التطور تالية للمجتمع الأهلي، السابق في وجود الدول لسيادة المواطنة والحرية الفردية، فإن هذان كثيرا ما يوجدان معا، خاصة في البلدان التي تنتقل من حالة التقليد إلى حالة الحداثة، ومن الجماعية كإطار للهوية السياسية إلى الفردية التي تعبر عن المواطنة. ولعله من المفارق أن تكون نظم الاستبداد، التي تؤله الدولة كسلطة، هي التي دفعت بالمجتمع الأهلي إلى حركتين متعاكستين هما : التقوقع على الذات اتقاء لخطر اختراقه والتلاعب بأقداره بواسطة أجهزتها، التي تمارس سياسات تفتيتية / تحكمية حياله من جهة، والبقاء خارج منظومتها، كي لا تنجح في كسر آليات حمايته الذاتية التقليدية وتجلبه إلى حيث يصير خادما لها من جهة أخرى، يعيد إنتاج نفسه انطلاقا من رؤاها ومصالحها وبدلالتها، فيفقد خصوصيته وتماسكه، ويتفكك أو يتعطل ويضيع ضوابط وحدته وأدوات تسييره.
في الحالة الثانية، يتبنى المجتمع الأهلي قيم المجتمع التقليدي، وفي مقدمها قيمة الحرية بما هي أداة فاعلة لمقاومة السلطة، ووسيلة عملية وحيدة للمحافظة على الذات. وإذن، فإن الاستبداد هو الذي يخير المجتمع الأهلي بين أن يصير مجتمع سلطة بلا هوية وتماسك، وبين تبني أفكار وقيم تنتمي إلى المرحلة التالية من تطوره، هي أفكار وقيم المجتمع المدني، التي تمكنه من الدفاع عن نفسه في الحاضر، وحمل بذور مستقبله في أحشائه وتسريع تحوله وانتقاله الروحي إليه، مع أن هذه العملية المعقدة والمؤلمة كثيرا ما تعرضه لمخاطر التصدع، وتحمل مخاطر على كيانه ذاته وعلى المنتمين إليه. ولعل تبني أفكار وقيم المجتمع المدني كان من المفاجآت السارة التي أعدها لنا المجتمع الأهلي وهو يبدأ تمرده التاريخي، ويستخدمها في صراعه من أجل حرية تتخطى تكويناته الجزئية إلى المجتمع بكامله، الذي يحدث وعيه قبل أن تتحدث بناه الاجتماعية والاقتصادية والسياسية، ويتبنى مواقف تقيّد طابعه كمجتمع أهلي، تقليدي، ركودي الطابع عموما، وتفقده هويته كمجتمع أهلي أو تقليدي صرف، وتدخله في حالة انتقالية تحركها وتعمقها قيمة الحرية كرابط جديد ومتزايد الأهمية والفاعلية بين أفراده، الذي يرون أنفسهم أكثر فأكثر بدلالتها، ويعملون بالتالي على ترقيته ونقله إلى حال مدنية أو شبه مدنية، يفسر توطنها فيه مطالبة قوى كثيرة تنتمي إليه بدولة مكافئة لها: نسميها اليوم الدولة المدنية / الديموقراطية، التي كثيرا ما أثار استغرابنا – واستهجان بعضنا – أن بنات وأبناء لقرى والبلدان الصغيرة والمتوسطة والمدن الموزعة على أحياء تتعايش فيها جماعات متنوعة هم الذين يطالبون بتحقيقها ويموتون تحت رايتها، ويعلنون أنها الإطار الذي سينظم مستقبلا علاقتهم بالمجال العام، وبمصالحهم وأدوارهم، في إطار المواطنة: المفهوم الجديد الذي يتبنونه ويجعلونه هدفهم ومطلبهم، ويناضلون تحت لوائه. لئن كان المجتمع الأهلي قد حافظ على شيء من تقليديته على صعيد أبنيته وعلاقاته الضيقة، فإنه تحول إلى مجتمع مدني على صعيد خطابه السياسي، الذي انطبع بطابع حديث، ما بعد سلطوي/ ما بعد استبدادي، هو حقل الشأن العام البديل، الذي يفسر وجوده في الوعي الحاجة إلى إقامته في الواقع، من خلال تعاظم الحراك المدني، الذي لطالما كان ضعيفا إلى الأمس القريب في بلداننا، وشرع يلعب دورا حاسما في إعادة إنتاج الواقع انطلاقا من فكرته المستقبلية البديلة، لذلك نراه يحد اليوم ونعتقد أنه سيحد أكثر فأكثر في الزمن الآتي من تأثير أيديولوجيات المجتمع الأهلي التقليدية والغيبية السائدة عليه، ويجعلنا نستبشر بإمكانية انتقاله حقا إلى مجتمع مدني ديموقراطي متطور وحديث، حامله مواطن يريد استعادة حريته ليعيد بمعونتها بناء حلمه: المجتمع البديل ودولته.
هذه واحدة من أهم النتائج المباشرة للاستبداد، فهل ستزول بزواله؟ هل يتخلى المجتمع الأهلي عن إيمانه بالحرية، بعد زوال الاستبداد، أو في حال استمر ضمن أشكال معدلة؟ أعتقد أن هناك عوامل متعددة يتوقف عليها جواب هذا السؤال، منها : ما إذا كان إيمانه بالحرية موجها ضد النظام القائم وحده، وليس إيمانا بالحرية كمبدأ يصلح لكل زمان ومكان، ويصعب أو يستحيل التخلي عنه. وما إذا كان سينجح في تحرير نفسه من خلاله، وسيواصل تحويل وعيه إلى واقع مادي، ومكوناته إلى جماعات أفراد/ مواطنين يرى ذاته ومصالحه بدلالتهم وليس العكس، على غرار ما هو حادث اليوم. وما إذا كان نمط التضامن الوطني/ السياسي الجديد، الأفقي والواسع جدا، الذي ينشأ الآن في المجتمع الأهلي بفضل وحدة كفاحه ومطالبه ووعيه للحرية، سيترجم نفسه بنجاح حقيقي من قبل النخب السياسية، القديمة والجديدة، إلى نظام سياسي حديث وضارب، يقنع مواطن المجتمع الأهلي أن المدنية لا تنفي بالضرورة علاقاته وارتباطاته المحلية وحتى الفئوية وخصوصياته وحتى هويته، وإن أعادت تعريفها وشحنتها بمضامين إضافية وجديدة، وأن تمسكه بها وتطويرها مصلحة حقيقية له وللشعب عموما، فلا بد إذن من إعادة بناء حياته بما يتفق معها وينميها ويحميها، لتكون أساس وجوده السياسي والمجتمعي البديل، الذي يلبي حاجته إلى التقدم والقانون والكرامة والمشاركة في تقرير مصيره الشخصي.
ثمة اليوم جديد على صعيد الوعي والواقع، السياسة والمجتمع، تجسده فدائية وسلمية ومدنية مواطن المجتمع لأهلي أساسا في وجه سلطات محدثة أمنيا ومسلحة حتى الأنياب وعدوانية، مثلما يجسده التبني العام لقيم وأفكار المجتمع المدني، مع أنه لم يكن إلى الأمس القريب يعلق كبير أهمية على الحرية كقيمة حياتية، وكان يرى حريته في التضامن مع مجتمعه الخاص، الذي فقد قدرته على حمايته من الاستبداد، ووجد نفسه مكرها على القيام بنقلة في وعيه وواقعه، أعادته إلى السياسة كطرف مقابل للسلطة، بعد أن كان الاستبداد قد زوده بكم من لغضب يكفي لخوض أصعب المعارك وأكثرها تطلبا للتضحية، معركة حريته الشخصية كمعركة تمثل جوهر الشأن العام، يخوضها اليوم ويضحي بحياته فيها، رغم عدم وجود قوى سياسية تمسك بيده وتقوده، يدفعه إليها إيمانه بأنها قضيته الشخصية، التي قد لا يملك الكثير مما يستطيع يقوله عنها، لكنه يملكها هي ذاتها في ذاته، بما هي حاجة يتوقف عليه مجمل مصيره. ينتقل المجتمع الأهلي العربي إلى واقع مغاير، بينما ينتقل معه المجتمع العربي الكبير من حال إلى أخرى، وينتقل مواطنه إلى وضع يكون فيه عقله في المجتمع المدني وقدماه في مجتمعه الأهلي، يكتسب بفضله سمات جديدة تؤهله لأن يصير الحامل الحقيقي للحرية، وكان يظن ويقال بالأمس فقط إنه بعيد عنها بعد الأرض عن السماء. هذه مرحلة انتقال أقل ما يقال فيها إن النظام القائم اليوم، الذي صار يستحق لقب النظام القديم، لن ينجح في تخطيها او التغلب عليها، ما دام تحول وعي المجتمع الأهلي إلى وعي مدني يلعب دورا خطيرا في تجفيف منابع قبوله الشعبي، ويحوله إلى عبء يجب التخلص منه، بفضل هذه الظاهرة الجديدة، عندنا وعند غيرنا، التي تجعل المجتمع الأهلي يقاتل في سبيل حرية المواطن الفرد، ودولة المجتمع المدني الديموقراطية، بكل تصميم.
August 21st, 2011, 7:12 am
Revlon said:
Asad Army unit fighting conspiracy, by looting a shop!
Baba-Amr, Homs
أموي – حمص – بابا عمرو – كلاب بشار الأسد سفاحين وحرامية 20-8-2011
http://www.facebook.com/Youth.Syria.Freedom
August 21st, 2011, 8:47 am
Darryl said:
95. HAYTHAM KHOURY said:
I am sorry to comment on such an old story as I was away for a few days, but mate are you referring to sermons in Battle Star Galactica Church” in your post. What church has political sermons during Christmas and Easter? Churches never engage in political sermons, not even in the west where there is freedom for every flavour of the hour.
Are you a convert to Christianity or because you hate the Assads so much that you are making things up? If you hate the Assads, that is fine but do not fabricate stuff.
August 21st, 2011, 8:39 pm
peaceforSyria said:
The president had a wonderful balanced speech!!! I loved it. He was calm and confident. But sadly sounding hurt and wounded!!!!! What a decent man!!! And what a vicious crime being committed against the Syria and Syrian people!!!! Advocating civil war between Syrians, implementing measures that leads to starving Syrians and trying to replace this young educated reformer with extremists and morons, in order to serve Israel and the needs of the US. I am praying for Bashar and for the Syrian people, to be strong in facing this crime and conspiracy!!! Peace for Syria!!!!
August 22nd, 2011, 1:10 pm
peaceforSyria said:
//مصادر : سورية تنشر دفاعات جوية متطورة بالقرب من الحدود التركية
08/22/2011 | التصنيف : : اخبار | الكاتب : : admin
دمشق ..
علمت صحيفة “القدس العربي” من مصادر موثوقة أن القوات المسلحة السورية نشرت يوم الخميس الماضي مجموعة من مضادات الطيران ضمن منظومة دفاع جوي متطورة على الحدود الشمالية المجاورة لتركيا، ووفق ما رشح بهذا الخصوص فإن دمشق نشرت مضاداتها من جهة منطقة كسب الساحلية باتجاه الداخل السوري شرقاً، وتقول المعلومات أن دمشق نشرت أكثر من 25 عربة إطلاق مضادة للطيران متطورة للغاية يُعتقد أنها روسية الصنع وتحمل كل عربة أربع منصات إطلاق بحيث يمكنها المناورة والتصدي لأربعة أهداف جوية متحركة.
وجاء نشر مضادات الطيران السورية غداة تصاعد “اللهجة التحذيرية” التي أبدتها أنقرة تجاه دمشق الأسبوع الماضي والحديث عن إمكانية تنفيذ ضربة عسكرية من قبل حلف الناتو ضد سورية، تكون القوات التركية رأس حربة هذه الضربة، ثم ما لبثت أنقرة أن جزمت على لسان أرشد هرمزلو مستشار الرئيس التركي ان تركيا لن تتدخل عسكريا في سورية ولن تكون معبرا لأي قوات أجنبية إليها.
وسبق للقوات السورية ان نشرت مئات القواعد لمضادات الدبابات بمحاذاة الحدود التركية في رسالة كان مفادها وفق بعض المراقبين أن على تركيا عدم التفكير نهائياً بفكرة إقامة منطقة عازلة لحماية حدود الأمن القومي التركية الذي قد يتهدد بسبب العمليات العسكرية التي نفذها الجيش السوري في مناطق إدلب وجبل الزاوية وجسر الشغور بالقرب من تركيا.
كما شكّلت القوات السورية لواء عسكريا جديدا ليكون مقراً ومنطلقاً لقيادة العمليات العسكرية التي نُفِّذت في كل من جسر الشغور وجبل الزاوية في مواجهة المجموعات المسلحة.
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August 22nd, 2011, 1:19 pm
peaceforSyria said:
نحنا سوريا We Are Syria
الناتو الذي قتل الالاف في ليبيا سيبقى فيها لحماية المدنيين !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! وليس النفط وليس لاثارة الفتنى لتغرق كما حدث للعراق .. هنيئا ليبيا
August 22nd, 2011, 1:22 pm
peaceforSyria said:
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NATO plans to arm Syria criminal gangs
Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:15PM GMT
Weapons seized from Syrian criminal armed gangs (file photo)
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and Turkey are preparing the ground for military intervention in Syria especially through providing criminal Syrian armed gangs with weaponry.
Large caches of weapons including anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles, mortar bombs and heavy machine guns will be sent via ground to major Syrian cities witnessing unrest, according to a report by Debka.
Turkey’s military will protect the arms caches on their passage to Syrian rebels.
Syrian rebels have been receiving training inside Turkey to use the weapons for two weeks.
Turkey has warned that it will join any possible military action against neighboring Syria.
On Saturday, Ankara recalled its retired officers to be deployed to cities along the border with Syria. Ankara is a NATO member seeking an EU membership.
More than 1600 people have lost their lives since a wave of unrest gripped Syria five months ago.
Syrian authorities blame foreign-backed armed gangs for the killings. Damascus says as many as 500 soldiers and police officers have been killed by armed groups.
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August 22nd, 2011, 1:25 pm
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شـــــــممتُ تربكِ لا زُلفى ولا مَلـــقا ***وســـــرتُ قصدكِ لا خِبّاً ولا مَذِقا
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كنتِ الطــــــــــريقَ إلى هاوٍ تنازعهُ ***نفسٌ تســـــــدُ عليه دونها الطرقا
وكان قلبي إلى رؤيـــــــاكِ باصرتي ***حتى اتهمت عليكِ العينَ والحــدقا
شممت تربك أســــتافُ الصِّبا مَرِحاً ***والشــــــملَ مؤتلفاً والعقدَ مؤتلقـا
وسرتُ قصدك لا كالمشـــتهي بلداً ***لكن كمن يشتهي وجهَ من عشقا
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تموجينَ ظــــــلال الذكـــريات هوىً***وتســـــعدين الأسى والهمَّ والقلقا//
August 22nd, 2011, 1:31 pm
peaceforSyria said:
من مغترب لو حرقو كل الكنائس فسنزهب ونصلي عند اهلنا واخوتنا في الجوامع ونقول الله اكبر الصلات والسلام على سيدنا و حبيبنا الرسول محمد صله الله عليه و سلم ونقول السلام على سيدنا يسوع المسيح لائن الشعب السوري طائفته سوريا الله حاميها فموتو بغيزكم ايها الخونه المئجورين ما رح يطلعلكون مع شعب واحد ورب واحد وسنتهون الى مزبلة التاريخ وجيشنا الباسل سيتكفل بتنظيفكم و رميكم في مزبلة التاريخ الله وبسابع سماه حاميكي يا شام وحامي شعبك الائبي.
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August 22nd, 2011, 1:36 pm
peaceforSyria said:
the crimes of the armed gangs in Syria!!!!
إجرام العصابات الإرهابية المسلحة
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9kwzsZCaDM
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August 22nd, 2011, 1:44 pm
peaceforSyria said:
Syria: This is Not a Peaceful Protest Movement, it is an Armed Insurrection.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JweO1KUkWtQ
“This is not a peaceful protest movement, it is an armed insurrection. It is an intelligence operation. We are dealing with a big lie as far as the media is …
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August 22nd, 2011, 1:50 pm
peaceforSyria said:
GOD PLEASE SAVE SYRIA!!!!!!!!!!!
The plan to destabilize syria..! (original)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA9-E6MpcAc
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August 22nd, 2011, 4:38 pm
peaceforSyria said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F14oVpjPLhg&feature=share
August 22nd, 2011, 6:14 pm
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