Obama Worries Syria Intervention Would Backfire; Medvedev Says Assad Losing Power by the Day
Posted by Joshua on Sunday, January 27th, 2013
But in Syria, his administration wants to make sure U.S. action would not backfire, he said.
“We do nobody a service when we leap before we look, where we … take on things without having thought through all the consequences of it,” Obama told CBS.
“We are not going to be able to control every aspect of every transition and transformation” in conflicts around the world, he said. “Sometimes they’re going to go sideways.” (Editing by Mohammad Zargham)
Hillary Clinton on Syria (60 Minutes)
“I’m older than the president,” she joked, then turned serious. “I remember some of the speeches of Eisenhower as a young girl. You know you’ve got to be careful, you have to be thoughtful, you can’t rush in, especially now where it’s more complex now than it’s been in decades.”
Clinton called Syria a “wicked problem” that highlights the delicate balancing act of how to make sure U.S. foreign policy upholds American values and freedom in situations where the solution has the potential to be worse than the problem.
Clinton said the president’s policy on Syria has been appropriately measured.
“I’m certainly grateful for the president’s steady hand and hard questions and thoughtful analysis as to what we should and shouldn’t do,” he said.
President Obama to CHRIS HUGHES of New Republic
CH: The last question is about Syria. I wonder if you can speak about how you personally, morally, wrestle with the ongoing violence there.
Obama: Every morning, I have what’s called the PDB—presidential daily briefing—and our intelligence and national security teams come in here and they essentially brief me on the events of the previous day. And very rarely is there good news. And a big chunk of my day is occupied by news of war, terrorism, ethnic clashes, violence done to innocents. And what I have to constantly wrestle with is where and when can the United States intervene or act in ways that advance our national interest, advance our security, and speak to our highest ideals and sense of common humanity.
And as I wrestle with those decisions, I am more mindful probably than most of not only our incredible strengths and capabilities, but also our limitations. In a situation like Syria, I have to ask, can we make a difference in that situation? Would a military intervention have an impact? How would it affect our ability to support troops who are still in Afghanistan? What would be the aftermath of our involvement on the ground? Could it trigger even worse violence or the use of chemical weapons? What offers the best prospect of a stable post-Assad regime? And how do I weigh tens of thousands who’ve been killed in Syria versus the tens of thousands who are currently being killed in the Congo?
Those are not simple questions. And you process them as best you can. You make the decisions you think balance all these equities, and you hope that, at the end of your presidency, you can look back and say, I made more right calls than not and that I saved lives where I could, and that America, as best it could in a difficult, dangerous world, was, net, a force for good.
Prince Turki al-Faisal on Syria at Davos
On Friday, a senior member of Saudi Arabia’s monarchy said militants should be given sophisticated arms, including anti-aircraft weapons.
“What is needed are sophisticated, high-level weapons that can bring down planes, can take out tanks at a distance. This is not getting through,” Prince Turki al-Faisal, a former intelligence chief and brother of the Saudi foreign minister, said at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
“I’m not in government so I don’t have to be diplomatic. I assume we’re sending weapons and if we were not sending weapons it would be terrible mistake on our part,” Faisal said, adding that “You have to level the playing field…”
Jihadists and Secular Activists Clash in Syria
By HANIA MOURTADA and ANNE BARNARD, January 26, 2013
BEIRUT, Lebanon — The tensions had been simmering for months in the northern Syrian town of Saraqib. Civilian antigovernment activists had complained of rebel fighters who needlessly destroyed a milk factory and treated residents disrespectfully. A growing contingent of jihadist fighters from the ideologically extreme and militarily formidable Nusra Front was suspicious of the activists’ secular, nonviolent agenda.
On Thursday, mistrust erupted into confrontation. Masked men believed to be with Al Nusra raided the headquarters of two secular civilian grass-roots organizations — setting in motion one of the most dramatic tests yet of the makeshift system of local governance that civilians and fighters have established in Saraqib, a rebel-held town.
The dispute also tests the clout of jihadist fighters and the ability of civilian opposition groups to stand up to them. The increasingly prominent role of jihadist battalions on the battlefield worried the United States enough to blacklist Al Nusra last year as a terrorist organization, an effort to isolate it that may have backfired. The Syrian opposition is ambivalent about the group: while many antigovernment activists oppose its vision of an Islamic state and complain of attempts to enforce pious practices, its relatively steady arms supply and string of battleground victories have brought it respect
Israel Girds For Attacks As Syria Falls Apart
By JODI RUDOREN and ANNE BARNARD NYTimes
“If there will be a need, we will take action to prevent chemical weapons from being transferred to Islamic terror organizations,” Mr. Shalom said on Army Radio. “We are obligated to keep our eye on it at all times, in the event chemical weapons fall into Hezbollah’s hands.”…
Uprising’s first Druze defector declared dead
January 24, 2013 The Daily Star
by Marlin Dick
The first army defector from the southern province of Swaida was declared dead Wednesday, after having led a battle against regime forces earlier in the month.
The Facebook page of the Revolutionary Military Council for Swaida said that Khaldoun Zeineddine, the leader of the Sultan Pasha al-Atrash Battalion of the Free Syrian Army, had been “martyred,” along with an undisclosed number of his comrades….
Opposition Clashes with Kurds Raise Fears of Arab-Kurdish Civil War in Syria, al-Nusra Front and the FSA involved in the fighting –
Rudaw.net By ADIB ABDULMAJID
…28 rebels of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the main opposition fighting to topple the regime of President Hafez Assad, and five from the Kurdish Popular Protection Committee (YPG), were killed in last week’s encounter….
“We are struggling against terrorist armed groups who have caused total destruction in the city and forced our people to leave their homes,” Silo told Rudaw over the phone. “We will confront all enemies of the Kurdish people, whether they belong to the regime or the FSA.”
Silo said that fighters from the al-Nusra Front, Ghuraba al-Sham and the FSA were involved in the fighting.
“Kurdish areas should remain under Kurdish control, otherwise the consequences will be severe for the future of our people,” he added.
المجلس العسكري السرياني السوري Syriac Military Council formed
Assad made ‘grave error’ over reforms: Medvedev
2013-01-27 15:39:49.135 GMT
SYRIAN President Bashar al-Assad made a “grave, perhaps fatal error” by delaying political reforms, Russian Prime Minister Dmitri Medvedev says.
“He should have acted much more quickly and reached out to the peaceful opposition, which was ready to sit at the negotiating table with him,” Russian news agencies quoted Medvedev as saying.
“It’s a grave error on his part, perhaps fatal,” he said, in a rare criticism of Assad by Syria’s traditional ally Moscow.
“It seems to me that his chances of staying (in power) are shrinking day by day,” Medvedev said in remarks to CNN television on the sidelines of the Davos World Economic Forum in Switzerland.
He reiterated Russia’s position that only the Syrian people can decide the fate of Assad, whose departure the West has long called for in the face of the nearly two-year-long conflict in Syria.
“I repeat once again: It is for the Syrian people to decide. Not Russia or the United States or any other country.” Moscow has long opposed any foreign intervention in the conflict that the United Nations says has killed at least 60,000 people since March 2011.
Syrian Rebel Jihadists Threaten To Attack France In Retaliation For Mali Offensive… Via MEMRI:
This Message is addressed to the French Republic and its people from the Mujahideen of Syria, following the French government’s decision to attack our noble brothers, who instated the shari’a, who fought polytheism, who spread monotheism in northern Mali – the law of Allah, the shari’a, the only legislation to which a Muslim may submit.
The most fundamental right of a Muslim is to live according to his religion, and his duty is to strive to instate it on the lands of Islam.
A Mujahid fights so that the word of Allah may reign supreme.
The simple reason that drives France and its allies to attack and kill those who establish the shari’a in Muslim countries is that they want to maintain the subservient regimes that agreed to be their vassals, to serve their interests in Muslim countries, and to oppress them with their tyranny.
As a result of the decision of the French government, which is not satisfied with preventing our virtuous sisters from donning the veil in accordance with Allah’s decree, and with constantly fighting Islam and the Muslims…
Comments (244)
Visitor said:
“On Thursday, mistrust erupted into confrontation. Masked men believed to be with Al Nusra raided the headquarters of two secular civilian grass-roots organizations — setting in motion one of the most dramatic tests yet of the makeshift system of local governance that civilians and fighters have established in Saraqib, a rebel-held town.
This is a piece of biased reporting. First, I do not believe that Nusra fighters go around in masks. If they want to do something, they do it without masks. Everyone knows these guys fear no one. Secondly, Hania Mourtada is a Lebanese Shia, therefore biased, and has vested interest in tarnishing not only Nusra Front but any group associated with the FSA.
I hope Dr. Landis, who is quite knowledgeable about who is who among reporters, makes such things clear when quoting such sources.
January 27th, 2013, 11:53 pm
Syrian said:
The battale in Syria is between good and evil.It is laughable that Obama did not remember the tens of thousands dying in the Congo when he helped topple Qadhafi.at any case I’m still convicted that The US not helping is a blessing In disguise, the Syrian people will get rid of the Assad regime on thier own without owing anything to the west.
January 27th, 2013, 11:58 pm
Ghufran said:
To understand what Medvedev said ,you need to mention the part regarding national reconciliation, here is a summary of what he said:
قال ميدفيديف، في مقابلة مع قناة «سي ان ان» نشرتها الوكالات الروسية أمس، «كان عليه (الأسد) التحرك بسرعة أكبر ودعوة المعارضة السلمية، التي كانت مستعدة للجلوس إلى طاولة المفاوضات معه. إنه خطأ فادح، قد يكون قاضياً».
وعما إذا كان الأسد يمكن أن ينجو، قال ميدفيديف «لست ادري. يبدو لي أن فرصه في البقاء (في السلطة) تتضاءل يوماً بعد يوم». وأضاف «اتصلت بالأسد هاتفياً عدة مرات وقلت له طبقوا إصلاحات، اجلسوا إلى طاولة مفاوضات. لكني اكرر القول مرة أخرى، برأيي، المسؤولون السوريون لم يكونوا مستعدين لذلك».
وأكد ميدفيديف مجدداً موقف روسيا المتمثل في أن الشعب السوري وحده مؤهل ليقرر مصير الأسد. وقال «الأمر الرئيسي الآن هو ضمان إجراء عملية المصالحة الوطنية. ويجب علينا أن نفكر في ما سيحدث. فعلى سبيل المثال لو جاء إلى السلطة الآن المعارضون الذين تشكلوا، ليس في أراضي سوريا بل في الخارج، فماذا سيفعلون؟ إنهم سيقضون على ممثلي التيارات الأخرى في الإسلام والطوائف الدينية الأخرى، وهم يفعلون ذلك الآن. لهذا فإما أن تجري عملية المصالحة الوطنية تحت إشراف المجتمع الدولي، وإما أن تستمر الحرب الأهلية إلى ما لا نهاية، ولا يوجد بديل ثالث».
وأضاف «مهمة الولايات المتحدة والقوى الأوروبية والإقليمية هي إقناع الأطراف المعنية بالجلوس للتفاوض وليس مجرد المطالبة برحيل الأسد ثم يُعدم مثل (الزعيم الليبي الراحل معمر) القذافي أو يُنقل إلى جلسات محكمة على محفة مثل (الرئيس المصري المخلوع) حسني مبارك».
وأكد ميدفيديف أن موسكو لا تعمل على بقاء الأسد في السلطة. وقال «لم نقل أبداً إن هدفنا هو بقاء النظام السياسي الحالي أو بقاء الرئيس الأسد. على الشعب السوري أن يقرر»، مشيراً إلى أن روسيا لم تكن أبداً حليفاً حصرياً لسوريا أو للأسد. وأضاف «أقمنا علاقات جيدة مع والده ومعه، لكن كان لديه حلفاء أكثر حظوة بين الدول الأوروبية».
It tells a lot about the character and the intentions of French government when you find out that they blocked 60 Syrians from attending a conference in Geneva that is alqaida- free while they host a rival group that has members who openly support a terrorist group.
January 28th, 2013, 12:31 am
Hopeful said:
#2 Syrian
When you say “it is a blessing in disguise”, aren’t you agreeing then with Mr. Obama’s analysis that Syria is better off IF the US does not get involved militarily? If so, why are you angry at him if he is making the right call?
January 28th, 2013, 1:20 am
Juergen said:
The Panda and The Bear – Why they Support the Syrian Lion
http://craccum.ausa.auckland.ac.nz/?p=979
January 28th, 2013, 1:23 am
Jamil Hanna said:
Dr Joshua ,the Syrian crisis is spilling over to Egypt , you may need an Egypt comment soon ,may be farther a Jordan ,Lebanese, Turhish and Iraqi comment
January 28th, 2013, 1:45 am
Juergen said:
https://twitter.com/zaidbenjamin/status/295788333211209728/photo/1
January 28th, 2013, 2:05 am
Syrian said:
#4 Hopeful
I said laughable, that dose not mean I’m angry at him,
It means I was laughing at his conection between the Congo and Syria,
He should just say there is no oil in Syria,as was the case in Libia.
January 28th, 2013, 2:11 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
VISITOR
Believe what you want, it will not change facts on the ground.
A group of masked fighters, “liberated” Saraqib of its active civil society. This will have results, and radical groups will eventually pay the price.
January 28th, 2013, 2:15 am
MarigoldRan said:
There will be no national reconciliation because Syria is no longer a nation.
Nor will there be any reconciliation, national or otherwise.
What comes around, goes around. And the war continues because there will be no negotiations. The regime has to be destroyed or there will never be hope for a future.
There is no other viable option. The regime has destroyed too much of the country for anyone to negotiate. I mean, with everything destroyed, what is there to negotiate about?
EDIT: How exactly do you get a fighter who lost everything except his life and his family (currently in a refugee camp in Turkey) to stop fighting the regime? What exactly can anyone offer him that will make him stop?
And that’s the reason why, in the end, the regime will lose. It has no one to negotiate with. And its enemies will never stop fighting until it’s dead.
January 28th, 2013, 3:07 am
omen said:
1. Visitor said: This is a piece of biased reporting. First, I do not believe that Nusra fighters go around in masks. If they want to do something, they do it without masks. Everyone knows these guys fear no one. Secondly, Hania Mourtada is a Lebanese Shia, therefore biased, and has vested interest in tarnishing not only Nusra Front but any group associated with the FSA.
while it is good to be cognizant & wary of the possibility that third parties might stage events in order to stir dissension – nusra has been noted in media wearing masks:
from an interview: Abu Adnan smirked from behind his black balaclava, his auburn whiskers peeking through the fabric as the corners of his mouth rose.
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January 28th, 2013, 4:35 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
¨Israel threatens Syria strike if rebels get chemical arms¨
Is now everything clear? Israel needs Assad to stay in power. If rebels oust Assad then Israel will attack syrian rebels state.
I wonder why Hizballah is permitted to hide Assad´s chemical arms in Bekaa Valley while rebels attack Assad. Once again it is very clear that Israel, HA, Iran and Syria are on the same side of this charade.
http://dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Jan-27/203896-israel-vows-syria-strike-at-any-sign-of-chemical-a.ashx#axzz2JGJ8OzIw
January 28th, 2013, 4:58 am
omen said:
syria vs congo
obama resorting to playing the race card to justify ignoring the slaughter of syrians. despicable.
it would take so little to help shift the balance of power towards the opposition. yet the US, the west & the arab world are doing everything they can to deny any help to enable the regime to prolong the killing.
January 28th, 2013, 5:07 am
omen said:
12. sandro
what horrific irony it would be if israel blew up a holding tank and wound up gassing people as a result.
January 28th, 2013, 5:14 am
mjabali said:
An article worth reading about the current situation in Syria by Yasin al-Hajj Saleh. It is called ” The most dangerous phase in the Syrian Revolution.”
المرحلة الأشد خطراً في الثورة السورية
http://www.ahewar.org/debat/show.art.asp?aid=342914
January 28th, 2013, 5:53 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
I second MJABALI’s recommendation. The article is a critical and very significant article. Far more important than the non-sense squabbling l with trolls.
January 28th, 2013, 6:24 am
Visitor said:
Hamster @9,
Your reply doesn’t change anything of what I said. Besides, how do we know that these fighters, whoever they are, did not act in accordance with the wishes of the local population? Assuming they were indeed Nusra, we’re told, time in and time out, Nusra is extremely careful to gain the trust of the local communities where they operate.
‘Any group’ can claim to be a civil society in current-state Syria. Whether that group is acceptable to the community at large and behaving according to its wishes is another story. Saraqeb is over 40000 people.
So, I would say this is a side show meant to be utilized in main stream media, particuarly western, for a specific agenda.
I woudn’t give the story a rat’s ass, because of the above and particularly because of who is reporting.
January 28th, 2013, 6:33 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Syrian and hopeful
I am angry of Obama, because he sacrificed the moral values that America stnds for, because he disregarded the humanitarian principals that he talked about, because his refusal to help will cost many young people shed their blood daily, he could have helped to allow Turkey and KSA to supply the rebels with antiaircraft missiles and shortened this revolution and saved lives, certainly he did not tell the truth about why he helped in Libya,he was not concerned about loss of life in Bengazi, he was greedy since he helped because of oil, and in Syria,he is not telling the truth, he is not concerned about Iran nuclear advancement he knows the relations between Syria and Iran, he knows that changes in Syria will weaken Iran,he did nothing to weaken Iran,Syrian blood loss is nothing to him.
January 28th, 2013, 6:49 am
apple_mini said:
It seems the US government has gradually and finally reached their consensus that the dynamic of Syria civil war had closed its door for direct intervention at least for now.
Obviously, they know they can no longer put their trust and faith on the opposition. Also they realize Assad won’t be out of the picture any time soon. The fundamental cause of their change of policy is from the radical Islamists on the battle ground. That really touches their nerves: they just cannot watch them to become a very serious threat to the region, especially to Israel. Spill-over of those Jihadists to Jordan is almost inevitable. Peace pact of Israel with Jordan will get shaken up. Israel will face tremendous challenge along borders.
Honestly, I do not know how US will be able to get rid of Jihad threats. Too freaking tricky. Their military capacity allows them to attack or contain those radicals. But they cannot do that because it will require them to embrace Assad’s regime and become strategic partners. That is more than an embarrassment. It will also discredit their status and leadership in the region. They regional policy has to be scratched and re-written. Can they put their bet on the more secular rebels? Well, those secular rebels do not even have enough prowess to disavow those Jihadists.
US wants a step back from Syria mess. But this whole mess and tragedy have everything to do with US policy. From the very beginning, their ambassador Ford showed up with protesters just as the ambassador to China showed up after Chinese version of Jasmine movement announced. Well, we never heard of their Ambassador to Bahrain showed up during their version of Arabic Spring.
After all the US government have done to Syria, now they have even growing moral responsibility to get involved deeper for a peaceful solution to Syrian crisis. Instead of stepping back, they need to fully engaged. They need to use their influence to press Turkey, GCC, Jordan and EU to put pressure on the opposition to get more proactive on political solution with the regime.
Personally, I think Syrians should never forget/forgive what the US has done to us.
January 28th, 2013, 7:42 am
Visitor said:
“Personally, I think Syrians should never forget/forgive what the US has done to us.”
APPLE_MINI (Albo incarnate):
Do you mean by ‘us’ that you are speaking on behalf of the regime supporters?
I, personally, do not think that the US did anything wrong by not intervening. But I am not a regime supporter. There is a strong argument for the US not to intervene, by taking into consideration its own national interests. But, I also admit there is a strong counter argument which would argue that intervening is in US national interests. GWB would have never thought twice about it. Besides, it’ll be very bad afterwards for the Syrian Revolution to be branded as a US stooge having come to power on the back of an American horse as we experienced in Iraq.
But you are still disappointed because the US did not adjust its strategy to suite your own desires. I know you thought of yourself as an ‘economic exoert’ in your previous life here on SC. You seem to have mutated into some sort of ‘geopolitical expert’ in your current incarnation. I would say that’s quite an achievement!!!
January 28th, 2013, 8:10 am
Visitor said:
It looks like real equality is happening where women are respected most and not in the fake Baath Shabiba ‘whorehouses’
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/01/28/262934.html
Observer may not like it of course. But, there are other venues where one can visit to watch naked women parading in public places. Find such a place OB and stop being grumpy.
January 28th, 2013, 8:23 am
zoo said:
A dialog of deaf: France and the Opposition
France using the Islamist threat pressures the ‘supporters’ of the opposition to ‘do more’.
The opposition want 500M dollars to create the ‘interim government’ and get weapons.
France simply ignores the request and makes impossible demands.
France fears Islamist rise in Syria unless opposition helped
By John Irish | Reuters – 1 hour 8 minutes ago
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/france-fears-islamist-rise-syria-unless-opposition-helped-113137969.html
PARIS (Reuters) – France’s foreign minister said on Monday Syria risks falling into the hands of Islamist militant groups if supporters of the Syrian opposition do not do more to help it in a 22-month-old revolt against President Bashar al-Assad.
Addressing the opening of a conference in Paris with senior members of the Syrian National Coalition, Laurent Fabius said the meeting must focus on making the opposition politically and militarily cohesive to encourage international assistance.
“Facing the collapse of a state and society, it is Islamist groups that risk gaining ground if we do not act as we should,” he said. “We cannot let a revolution that started as a peaceful and democratic protest degenerate into a conflict of militias.”
Western concern over the growing strength of jihadist militants fighting autonomously in the disorganised ranks of anti-Assad rebel forces is rising. This has hindered international aid to the moderate Syrian National Coalition opposition and may push it more into the arms of conservative Muslim backers, diplomatic sources say.
The meeting, which brought together Western and Arab nations and the three vice-presidents of the coalition, aims to tackle the lack of cohesion that has led to broken promises of aid.
Coalition vice-president Riad Seif said “time is not on our side” and that the opposition no longer wanted pledges of support that would not be followed through on.
“We need an interim or transitional government to provide assistance to millions of Syrians in liberated zones and to help bring the collapse of the (Assad) regime,” he said.
“From the beginning we said we should be based in Syria, but so far we haven’t received any money to run a government.”
HALF A BILLION DOLLARS
Since its formation in November, the coalition has failed to gain traction on the ground in Syria and its credibility has been undermined by its inability to secure arms and cash.
Seif said the coalition lacked the financial or military means to set up within Syria and support civilians on the ground. “We are looking with our friends at how we can protect the liberated zones with defensive weapons and we are discussing how to get billions of dollars to create a budget,” he said.
“But if we don’t have this budget there is no point having a government. It makes no sense.”
George Sabra, another coalition vice-president, said the coalition needed at least $500 million to launch a government.
But its disunity – it failed last week to form a transitional government – has deterred the West from boosting assistance, especially sophisticated arms and ammunition insurgents are crying out for.
“We also need weapons. We needed them from the first minute,” Sabra said. “At the last meeting of Friends of Syria, they recognised our rights to defend ourselves. (But) what does that mean if we cannot provide help to victims?”
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Fabius said the Paris meeting had three objectives: to address the needs of the vulnerable Syrian population, pursue internal structuring, bring opposition fighting units of the Free Syrian Army under its political authority and prepare the post-Assad transition.
However, he sidestepped the question of arming the rebels, underlining the wariness of Western countries about spreading weapons to Islamists in Syria and across the volatile region.
January 28th, 2013, 8:32 am
zoo said:
I fully agree with Obama.
The expat opposition pushed by France, Qatar and KSA have created a mess in Syria by intervening illegally in a independent country part of the UN..
When they thought they were winning, they ignored the USA. They were counting on Turkey and the Syrian army defecting, but Turkey stopped short of acting decisively and the army stayed firmly on the government side..
Now that the expat opposition is begging for money, that the FSA has been taken over by Al Qaeda terrorists and that the majority of Syrians are realizing that this ‘revolution’ is not only a failure but has destroyed their country, the expat opposition calls for the USA to intervene militarily. Out of arguments, they invoke a intervention for “humanitarian” sake.
Obama will never yield to intervene military when there is an obvious alternative, certainly with a high cost on the inflated egos of some, but much less dangerous than an intervention or militarizing Al Qaeeda.
The only ‘help’ the expat opposition need is to get enough pressure to accept the dialog with the government as Bahrain opposition did. That would isolate Al Qaeda fighters and authority will be re-established on the country.
Obama will never be so foolish to create another Afghanistan when there is a ready made political solution.
He should just put all his weight on the opposition ‘supporters’ to change their song.
January 28th, 2013, 8:50 am
zoo said:
Where the ‘president’ Al Khatib?
Syrian opposition demand heavy weapons
http://www.aa.com.tr/en/rss/127023–syrian-opposition-demand-heavy-weapons
28 January 2013 14:56 (Last updated 28 January 2013 14:58)
Syrian opposition asked for USD 500 million and heavy weaponry from the international community to topple the current regime
Riad Seif, the Vice President of the National Coalition for Opposition and Revolutionary Forces spoke at the opening of the meeting and stressed they expect more financial aid and artillery from the international community.
Seif underlined once the clashes in Syria exacerbated, then the peace in the region and the world would be negatively affected too.
Seif stressed that they expect from the international community to act according to their promises and said, “We do not want to listen to anything which remain unfulfilled
January 28th, 2013, 9:01 am
Tara said:
The revolution has succeeded without Obama and will continue to succeed without him. He has made himself irrelevant long time ago and he can stay as such, meanwhile the war continues and the world is not short of people willing to help.
January 28th, 2013, 9:07 am
zoo said:
Published on Jan 24, 2013
السيدة أسماء الأسد تستقبل عوائل الشهداء و المعلومات تفيد أنها قد أستقبلت حوالي 1027 عائلة إلى تاريخ إعداد هذا التقرير
January 28th, 2013, 9:16 am
Visitor said:
German magazine reveals, based on information obtained from well informed Iranian sources, that Ferdo nuclear installation, dug 90 meter deep underground, and located very near to Qom, experienced a serious explosion which was heard 5 km from the site one day before the recent Israeli elections,
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/01/28/263047.html
We know the Pakis were able to do it with no sweat. We may have to say mullah apes want to play piano in vain?
Was Khamenei shaken?
January 28th, 2013, 9:20 am
zoo said:
Assad: We Regained the Upper Hand
Published Monday, January 28, 2013
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/assad-we-regained-upper-hand
Damascus – Syrian President Bashar al-Assad told visitors that the Syrian army “regained the initiative on the ground to a very high degree and achieved important results, which will come to light soon.”
“Externally funded armed groups received several hard blows recently,” Assad added.
“The US is not ready for a solution in the time being.” He believed that Russia will remain his ally. “It is defending itself, not the regime in Syria,” he continued, stressing that “we will not budge from the articles of the Geneva agreement.”
…
For example, there are 15,000 citizens who returned voluntarily to Homs. The Syrian people are fed up already with all these deviants that destroyed their streets, homes, and commercial shops.”
Assad sees that “closing the Syrian borders to the weapons and smugglers could resolve the issue in two weeks, since the sources of money and arms will be destroyed.”
January 28th, 2013, 9:21 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Israel declares that until now they have been accepting the transfer of long range missiles M-600 or SCUD-D from Assad to Hezballah in Bekaa Valley !!! Now Israel says that if chemical heads are transfered to Lebanon, HA will be attacked.
So, as a conclusion we can see how:
1) Israel knows and accepts the transfer of missiles from Assad to HA for the following war games on a regular basis. There is no Likud and no HA modus vivendi without wars.
2) Israel is a partner of Assad and HA with whom have established clear rules of the game long long time ago. First rule: no palestinians in the game. Second Rule: monopoly of war for HA and Israel.
3) In case Assad felt, Israel will bomb everyone and specially the chemical arsenals in the hands of the rebels or if they are traspassed to Lebanon.
My deduction is: if Assad and HA use they chemical weapons against the syrian people ISRAEL WILL DO NOTHING and the US WILL DO NOTHING CONSEQUENTLY.
January 28th, 2013, 9:46 am
zoo said:
Is Egypt starting it second revolution, this time secular,to get rid of the Moslem Brotherhood who hijacked it in collusion with the army?
Egypt: opposition rejects president’s dialogue
By HAMZA HENDAWI | Associated Press – 14 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-opposition-rejects-presidents-dialogue-133139215.html
CAIRO (AP) — Egypt’s main opposition coalition on Monday rejected the Islamist president’s call for dialogue unless their conditions are met, a move that is likely to prolong the country’s latest political crisis as violence that has left more than 50 people dead continued for a fifth day.
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“We met with Morsi earlier, and all we got from the meeting was a dictatorial constitutional declaration,” said Sabbahi. “The second dialogue meeting did not accomplish anything either.”.
January 28th, 2013, 9:57 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
I hope the concept of Permanent Revolution takes the streets of Egypt until a decent ruler takes power. Mursi is a stupid man backed by the US with the main goal of cutting the oxygen to real democracy movements. This is what Israel and the West have always wanted from arab countries: lack of democracy and one-man government in power. I trusted the West would believe in the Arab Spring but what they are promoting in Syria and in Yemen or Egypt is the spread of blood and ingorant islamist dictatorships replacing corrupt socialist dictatorships. We want democracy and freedom and the young arabs will not stop until it happens. Fuxxx what Israel and the West like or dislike.
January 28th, 2013, 10:04 am
zoo said:
The ever shrinking 70%…
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/al-assad-says-army-has-upper-hand-report.aspx?pageID=238&nID=40010&NewsCatID=352
Al-Assad emphasized that the military had prevented the opposition from taking full control of any of the country’s 14 provinces. The rebels’ “playground is limited to some border areas with Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon, and some pockets in the countryside of the capital, which are being dealt with,” he said.
“The situation in the capital has improved and strategic areas, especially the airport road, are secure despite insurgent attempts.
“If the Turkish border was closed to tackle the smuggling of arms and militants, this matter would be resolved in only two weeks,” al-Assad said.
January 28th, 2013, 10:07 am
Tara said:
I watched the link of the first Lady from hell receiving family members of the conscripts she and her husband killed. They seem to have come out of fear or to get whatever compensations offered to their “martyred”. As they shake her hand, they seem praying to God for Batta and his wife to experience the same and I am sure it will happen soon
January 28th, 2013, 10:16 am
revenire said:
“Once again it is very clear that Israel, HA, Iran and Syria are on the same side of this charade.”
Yes, they’re all Zionists. It is obvious. Thank you for saying what we all thought. I always suspected this to be the case.
January 28th, 2013, 10:24 am
revenire said:
“33. TARA said:
I watched the link of the first Lady from hell receiving family members of the conscripts she and her husband killed. They seem to have come out of fear or to get whatever compensations offered to their “martyred”. As they shake her hand, they seem praying to God for Batta and his wife to experience the same and I am sure it will happen soon”
Asma is one of the most beautiful women in the world and one with the biggest heart. The Syrian people love her yet you wish her dead.
I’d comeback with “I hope it happens to you and your family Tara” but I am not that cruel.
January 28th, 2013, 10:26 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Zoozoo said
” this matter would be resolved in only two weeks”
Another stupid prediction by Zoozoo
January 28th, 2013, 10:28 am
Tara said:
Reve,
When your wife stops looking at another man’s picture while making out, come back and try to have a conversation. In the interim, I am sorry. I do not converse with people who I contempt.
Direct enough for you?
January 28th, 2013, 10:32 am
zoo said:
Majie
Do you need reading glasses or a translator?
It’s not my ‘prediction’ and anyway it is conditional to the Ottoman S.ultan stopping his terrorists gangs.
Maybe you can have a word with him.
“If the Turkish border was closed to tackle the smuggling of arms and militants, this matter would be resolved in only two weeks,” al-Assad said.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/al-assad-says-army-has-upper-hand-report.aspx?pageID=238&nID=40010&NewsCatID=352
January 28th, 2013, 10:49 am
revenire said:
Tara you’ve hung on my comments like an adoring teenager. Many would say you’re a vulgar, small woman wishing death on our First Lady but I will turn the other cheek to pray for you.
What my wife and I do is our business.
Please don’t address me in vulgar terms.
January 28th, 2013, 10:56 am
Tara said:
You made it our business.
Read my post again. I have nothing else to say to you except that last post. Come back when the situation in your house changes. We may consider.
January 28th, 2013, 11:01 am
revenire said:
Dr. Assad is one of the wisest leaders in the world today. Was there any doubt he and Syria would prevail?
Assad: We Regained the Upper Hand
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/assad-we-regained-upper-hand
Damascus – Syrian President Bashar al-Assad told visitors that the Syrian army “regained the initiative on the ground to a very high degree and achieved important results, which will come to light soon.”
“Externally funded armed groups received several hard blows recently,” Assad added.
“The US is not ready for a solution in the time being.” He believed that Russia will remain his ally. “It is defending itself, not the regime in Syria,” he continued, stressing that “we will not budge from the articles of the Geneva agreement.”
These positions were relayed to Al-Akhbar by Arab visitors to the Syrian Presidential Palace who were interested in seeing the inner workings of Syrian decision-making first hand, specifically when it comes to the president himself.
Syria, which paid dear from the pockets and savings of its impoverished people in support of the Palestinian resistance, will not bend on this support.One of those visitors sat with Assad for more than three hours. He told Al-Akhbar that despite not being too influenced by anti-Assad propaganda, he was surprised at what he saw and heard. The Syrian president holds regular meetings in al-Rawda Palace in Damascus. His team follows up on his work as usual. On the personal level, the man seems calm and in control. His confidence level stands out. Also, there’s the news of the pregnancy of his wife Asmaa, which could not be dealt with as a simple personal matter between a couple.
From the personal to the political, Assad surprises his guests “by his intricate reading of the situation in this phase.” This comment was repeated by several people who saw him recently. He speaks about “the minutest details in the Syrian provinces. His information encompasses a street here and the news of a small neighborhood there. The reports he receives are comprehensive, even when they’re not to his liking.”
From the personal to the political, Assad surprises his guests “by his intricate reading of the situation in this phase.” This comment was repeated by several people who saw him recently. He speaks about “the minutest details in the Syrian provinces. His information encompasses a street here and the news of a small neighborhood there. The reports he receives are comprehensive, even when they’re not to his liking.”
According to his visitors, “Assad is thoroughly aware of the international efforts to solve the crisis in Syria.” Some remark by saying, “If it was not so, the state would not have been able to survive for this long, the Syrian Arab Army would not have maintained its cohesion.”
Assad, as his visitors told Al-Akhbar, maintains that “the army has regained the initiative on the ground to a large extent, achieving important results, in addition to what it had achieved in the last 22 months. It stopped fighters from controlling whole governorates, limiting their playground to border zones with Turkey mainly, and Jordan and Lebanon to an extent. There are also some pockets in the capital’s countryside, which are being dealt with by the army. The capital Damascus is in a better situation. Its strategic points – despite all the attempts by the militants – remained safe, especially the airport road.”
Stopping at what happened at the Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp outside Damascus, Assad says that camp has its symbolism, which led the Syrian leadership not to take the decision to confront the militants that occupied a part of it. The solution of the Yarmouk predicament was left to the Palestinian factions, to provide initiatives for a solution, which the Syrian official side agreed to.
The Syrian president was asked by his visitors about what he said in the Opera House about “refusing to let Syria become a hotel resort.” He answered by saying that he does not want to dwell on that debate, but “I was hurt by those who should have been witness that our dealings with the Palestinian factions were never based on religion or confession.”
The externally-funded armed groups received strong blows recently which will be followed by further measures that will lead to wiping out this al-Qaeda branch altogether.“Instead, they became false witnesses claiming that the Syrian state is acting in a sectarian manner. Logic says that we should expect them to tell the truth. We understand the circumstances of some of them, and we would have accepted their silence if they had been unable to be rightful witnesses.”
The Syrian President said that despite the positions adopted by leaders of some Palestinian factions “Syria, which paid dear from the pockets and savings of its impoverished people in support of the Palestinian resistance, will not bend on this support.”
Assad asserts that “what the Syrian army achieved in the last few weeks will come to light soon.” He shares some details, which can be taken as an indicator of “a real change of the situation on the ground. For example, there are 15,000 citizens who returned voluntarily to Homs. The Syrian people are fed up already with all these deviants that destroyed their streets, homes, and commercial shops.”
Assad sees that “closing the Syrian borders to the weapons and smugglers could resolve the issue in two weeks, since the sources of money and arms will be destroyed.”
He told his visitors that “the externally-funded armed groups received strong blows recently. This development intersects with an international move, most prominently the inclusion of al-Nusra Front on the terrorism list, which will be followed by further measures that will lead to wiping out this al-Qaeda branch altogether.”
Assad believes that the US is not ready for a solution in the time being. He believes Russia will continue to support him. “It is protecting itself, not the Syrian regime,” he explained, stressing that “we will not budge on the articles of the Geneva agreement.”
He stressed that Syria will continue to cooperate with the Arab-International envoy, Lakhdar Brahimi, although “the latter seemed in his latest visit to Damascus to be somehow influenced by the media campaign against Syria.”
Assad’s visitors maintain that Brahimi suggested that the president steps down in the transitional phase on the basis that any president will not have serious powers in such a period. But the Syrian president “blocked him and explained to him in his special way that what will solve the crisis in Syria is the situation in the field, which is getting better every day in favor of the regime.”
Today, according to his visitors, Assad follows the news about the war taking place in his country. In his opinion, he was able to surpass the most difficult stages and things will be clear soon. He stresses on the need for “logistical arrangements for the next phase. There is a plan to return the refugees to their districts and homes, which will be announced in due time and there are other plans for reconstruction.”
January 28th, 2013, 11:01 am
revenire said:
“Come back when the situation in your house changes. We may consider.”
Sorry. I am happily married.
January 28th, 2013, 11:02 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Zoozoo
Why do you bringing it up if you don’t support it?
Hesitation and reluctance is indicative of poor judgement,or unable to reach a good judgement, may be he does not have a principle to depend on,or he is miscalculating, usually it is due to be surrounded by bad advisers,such as Hilary Clinton, who has double vision now, I think John Mccain would have been better president, Obama is not a good leader, the good leader is surrounded by good strong people ,he chooses them, I hope John Kerry is a better one.Chuck Haegle is a good person.
January 28th, 2013, 11:08 am
revenire said:
After reading Dr. Assad’s masterful command of the situation reported in Al-Akhbar I am more confident than ever in victory. This man is a wonder, a giant among us. I am proud to have such a president.
January 28th, 2013, 11:14 am
revenire said:
“There are 15,000 citizens who returned voluntarily to Homs. The Syrian people are fed up already with all these deviants that destroyed their streets, homes, and commercial shops.”
Yes, we know of such deviants Mr. President.
Give the order. We are ready.
January 28th, 2013, 11:17 am
Tara said:
http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013/jan/28/war-syria-mountains
Inside the war for Syria’s mountains
Monday 28 January 2013 12.21 EST
Inside the war for Syria’s mountains
Rebels are occupying Alawite houses in a region known for its tradition of sectarian coexistence in an offensive that looks likely to determine the fate of the country’s cosmopolitan heart
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Battleground Christian and Alawite villages are largely abandoned. Al-Nusra had not looted the homes of Christian families who have fled, said Abu Ghaith. “They are being careful about them,” he said. “But they do whatever they want with the Alawites.”
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Night was drawing near when a driver stopped in the gathering dark to ask about the way ahead. A cross swung from his rear vision mirror.
“Don’t be afraid,” my brother, a bearded rebel said. “God is with you, just as he is with us.”
The rebel looked at his feet and said: “When the people come back, after we win, it will be like it was before. They will buy meat for us, and we will visit them for Christmas.
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January 28th, 2013, 12:35 pm
GEORGES said:
التآلف بين الجيش الحر والاخوة المسيحيين في اليعقوبية
January 28th, 2013, 12:42 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Russian policy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ng6pAJ4kNoY
I think whoever against the Sunni is a terrorist, after the Alawites killed 150,000 Sunni they don’t deserve protection for their murderers, those shabbiha should be killed,and the one who protects them is a terrorist,as marigoldran says what goes around comes around
January 28th, 2013, 12:52 pm
Observer said:
Well well. At Davos the Russians got a wake up call. 89% of those surveyed posted that Russia will no longer be able to have a role on the world stage if the current leadership does not tackle corruption and serious political reform.
The second wake up call was the rebuff that the US and Europe gave to Putin when the so called Syria card was not considered worthy of any value in negotiating the missile shield and other issues.
Third the article by Majbali clearly shows that the regime has also retrenched into receiving help from Iran and HA only and is not counting that much more on Russia supporting it further. They know that the veto is there and perhaps another one if it comes to chapter seven at the UNSC but not much more.
Lavrov and Medvedev now preparing for a post Athad transition.
Meanwhile the regime has regained the upper hand. Well that is news to me for I thought that it had the upper hand from the very beginning. Since when did it have the lower hand? Did I miss something? Taftanaz Idlib Darayya Deraa Aleppo Al Qusair Rastan Raqqa Kamishli Bab al Hawa Jabal Alakrad Aleppo and Damascus International Airport?
Anyone heard about Kadri Jamil in Riadh lately?
Cheers
January 28th, 2013, 1:00 pm
Uzair8 said:
So Iran has sent a monkey into space? Hold on…we shouldn’t give Iran too much credit. Not just yet. I have a theory.
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Assuming the Ferdo underground nuclear facility, which reportedly suffered an explosion (#27), shares it’s premises with the Iranian space research department, there may be more to this story than reported.
The monkey, accustomed to being allowed to loiter around the research department, wandered off, ending up at the adjacent nuclear facility and eventually finding himself in the control room. Before wandering off again he fiddled with the controls, accidentally initiating a chain reaction and over-heating of the system eventually leading to the explosion.
The monkey, now being hunted by the angry Basij was trapped. His only escape the space rocket on standby in the nearby silo….
January 28th, 2013, 1:09 pm
Juergen said:
is this Chatami posing in the back?
`https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=203001269824650&set=a.190650757726368.18268.190416144416496&type=1&theater
January 28th, 2013, 1:19 pm
revenire said:
Yeah Juergen, sure. He’s a Zionist too. FSA is winning, the entire nation has been liberated. Asma left Batta.
January 28th, 2013, 1:21 pm
revenire said:
Tara we believe a British newspaper like we believe the Moon is made of cheese.
They’re just paid prostitutes for war on Syria.
You’re not the smartest poster here Tara.
January 28th, 2013, 1:26 pm
Uzair8 said:
Yesterday I wrote about (spun) how Medvedev was blaming Assad for everything because he failed to act quickly and hold dialogue with opposition.
Perhaps the Russians are trying to extricate themselves from their difficult position. So they may be blaming everything on Assad including:
– Russia supplying arms and funds to the regime
– The 2 Russian UNSC vetoes.
Also, the evacuation of Russians, which some have pointed out as insignificant in terms of numbers, may be a drip-drip approach to full evacuation. It may be the beginning with Russia gradually carrying out a difficult decision while, it being currently at such small numbers, it can publicly deny it’s a full evacuation.
Regarding the Medvedev comments, maybe it didn’t require spinning from me. Here a regime supporter, presumably an Iranian on Iran Military Forum, also accuses Medvedev of blaming Assad:
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“Medvedev’s been making some comments about Syria lately and it doesn’t sound nice…First of, I’m glad he’s not the president of Russia because he would’ve handed Syria over to the west on a silver platter..He’s basically blaming Assad for all the troubles in Syria..”
http://www.iranmilitaryforum.net/military-conflicts/updates-on-military-action-in-syria/msg168109/#msg168109
It gets worse in the comments that follow with attacks on Medvedev.
Some users point out that Medvedev doesn’t have a say in foreign policy, however, this reinforces what Observer said about factions within the Russian regime. The signs of a split are certainly appearing.
January 28th, 2013, 1:34 pm
Uzair8 said:
Came across the following article (link) last night on Yalla Souriya. I share as it is newsworthy and will be of interest to Prof. Landis and SC users. It also follows on from the previous main post.
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Anti-Islamism in an Islamic Civil War
Aymenn Jawad Al Tamimi
January 24th 2013
Why do pro-Assad Alawite soldiers insult Islam as they torture Sunni detainees in Syria?
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It may come across as odd that pro-Assad militiamen would disparage the Islamic religion in such a crude manner, but it should be noted that there are many videos like this in which the anti-Islamic sentiment takes a more subtle form.
Read more:
http://hurryupharry.org/2013/01/24/anti-islamism-in-an-islamic-civil-war/
January 28th, 2013, 1:51 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
http://www.damaspost.com/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5/%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%AA%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B9-%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%B9-%D8%AC%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%A8-%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A9-%D9%85%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%B9.htm
January 28th, 2013, 2:01 pm
omen said:
January 28th, 2013, 2:10 pm
omen said:
Syrian Opposition Fears Waning Western Support
npr (partial transcript):
let’s talk next about the uprising in syria where many people are asking “what happened to the united states?”
the u.s. promised practical help to the syrian opposition. but npr debra amos reports that help has not arrived.
this was the scene at last month at morocco at the friends of syria meeting. the obama administration recognized the syrian national coalition. so have a 130 other nations. here is deputy secretary of state william burns representing the u.s:
“practically” because burns pledged u.s. assistance to the coalition and to local civilians councils:
the recognition was a diplomatic gamble says fred hof, a former state department official, to help build a clear alternative to president bashar al assad’s regime:
but despite u.s. promises in morocco, u.s. policy has stalled, says hof:
and the result is clear in the latest state department report in the aid to syria:
direct support isn’t coming soon, says sources familiar with administration deliberations due to strict legal interpretations.
john bellinger knows a lot about international law. he’s a former advisor to the state department and he points out the obama administration still recognizes the assad regime as the legal government of syria. the coalition? that’s the legitimate representative of the syrian people.
the distinction matters, he says. for one thing, arming the coalition, that’s prohibited by international law and the un charter which bars interference in a country’s internal affairs. remember, the u.s. recognizes assad as the legitimate government. but what about channeling humanitarian aid to the syrian coalition for food, fuel & medicine?
the u.s. has supplied more than $200 million dollars of humanitarian aid through the un and other traditional aid groups. the u.s. has also spent $50 million dollars on training course in turkey for syrian activists, media workshops and democracy programs but so far hasn’t fulfilled the pledge of assistance to the syrian national coalition.
that’s elizabeth o’bagy, a research analyst at the washington based institute for the study of war. she tracks the syrian opposition and says u.s. backing pushed moderates into leading roles in the new coalition.
u.s. recognition was another boost, she says, but now withholding assistance has undermined those moderates.
for example, syria’s muslim brotherhood has maneuvered into more dominant roles.
now a power struggle in the opposition has delayed naming a transitional government for syria. it’s an important step, says hof:
fail because of weak support from western and arab allies. syria’s bashar al assad is also gauging that support as he digs in in damascus.
January 28th, 2013, 2:20 pm
revenire said:
Omen go back to bed and wake up with a brain this time.
This foreign-created revolution has zero chance of winning against Assad.
You are an odd bird.
January 28th, 2013, 2:28 pm
omen said:
58. so, sending drones all over the place is just fine, but feeding hungry people is a crime!
does this mean that once this new transitional government is formed – it would be able to lay claim to the half a billion dollars the un plans to reward the terrorist regime?
January 28th, 2013, 2:32 pm
Citizen said:
France, Qatar, and the New World Disorder
http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/01/france-qatar-and-the-new-world-disorder/
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There are no words in any language to describe the atrocities NATO‘s contras are committing against the people of Syria. But the world is looking on in horror and outrage. Large parts of Latin America know what is going on. Large parts of Asia and Russia too, know who is behind the violence in Syria. The truth will out in time. The balance of power in the world is shifting and sooner or later, the criminals behind these neo-colonial wars and their vast network of collaborators will be brought to justice. There are signs that Jordan may realign itself with Iraq, Iran, and Syria after signing new energy deals with Iraq on January. This could be fatal for the terrorists in Western Syria, as Jordan has hitherto been used as a base for the terror campaign. The Syrian state is strong enough to survive. The spirit of the Syrian people is indomitable. The illusions of the Arab Spring have faded. No one can argue now that the Arab Spring was about democracy and human rights. The Muslim Brotherhood have taken power in Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya with Western support. No one can pretend any more that the conflict in Syria is about democracy.
The French military-industrial-media complex is currently buzzing with orgiastic delight as French troops re-conquer mineral and gas-rich Mali, under the pretext of fighting terrorism, while French Special Forces train and facilitate Al Qaeda affiliated terrorists in Syria — a geopolitical theatre of the absurd worthy of Ionescu!
France is one of the most culturally and politically literate civilizations in the world, and has a long and militant left-wing tradition. Yet, the only cause that rallies the official “left-wing” intelligentsia in Paris today is gay marriage. The French “left” are due to march on the streets of Paris soon in support of a new law permitting gay marriage. The French government bombed and destroyed two African countries in 2011. France is engaged in an endless colonial war in Afghanistan, while the “patrie de droits de l’homme” has been conducting a covert war in Syria since last year and is now attempting to bomb its way back into Mali with a view to destroying Algeria. Uranium-rich Niger will be next. In short, neo-colonial aggression by the French government has led to the deaths of thousands of innocent people and has ruined the lives of millions of others; it is complicit in war crimes and crimes against humanity and is leading us closer to world war, yet the French “left “are only concerned about gay marriage rights! Furthermore, domestic repression in France is on the increase with more and more troops being brought out onto the streets of Paris to “protect” the population from potential “Islamists” the French government’s Gulf friends are financing, while France’s African and Magreb immigrant minorities are constantly stopped and harassed for no reason by the police. But who cares, as long as homosexuals can marry!
On a more positive note, there are some encouraging signs of increasing political dissent emanating from the more moderate officials of French imperialism. It would appear that the US strategy of chaos, the nihilistic policy of supporting Islamic terrorists in order to destroy one state while claiming to fight them in another is becoming impossible to ignore. Former French foreign minister Dominique De Villepin told radio France Inter on January 18 that the cause of the destabilisation in Mali was Nato’s war on Libya in 2011. De Villepin conceded that Libya is now overrun by jihadist militia.
Responding to a question from a caller concerning Qatar’s role in funding Islamist groups, De Villepin seemed to indicate that it was possible that “certain Gulf states” were financing Islamist extremist groups in Mali and Syria. It is unfortunately impossible to reproduce De Vilepin’s exact response to the question concerning Qatar’s role in Syria and Mali as France Inter edited this from their podcast version. They also edited out De Villepin’s highly significant suggestion that France should enter into negotiations with Russia in an effort to resolve the geopolitical impasse in Syria. In short, the three most important contributions by the former French foreign minister were edited out by the war propagandists running France’s state radio. In these strange, belligerent times even the voices of moderate imperialism are anathema to the roaring dogs of war.
Qatar’s financing of Islamist terror in Mali, Libya, Syria, and elsewhere and the incestuous relationship between the absolutist Gulf emirate and the Quai d’Orsay is now no secret to the more informed sections of the French public. Marine Le Pen, president of France’s far right party Front National told France Info on January 18: “I would like to point out an incoherence here. We are allies of Qatar, a country which is arming terrorists all over the world.” As I pointed out in previous articles, the absence of a genuine, anti-imperialist Left is opening the door to far right opportunism. Marine Le Pen is a clever operator. She understands that a significant portion of the French public are baffled by Quai d’Orsay’s love affair with the Gulf despots. Le Pen alludes to this but does not explain the real reasons for this relationship. The real reasons for the French elite’s love affair with gulf despotism has to do with the convergence of class interests. The Gulf despots support neo-liberal capitalism. They are authoritarian and neo-feudal. There is nothing Western capitalists love more than authoritarian regimes who comply with western economic interests and crush all dissent. For example, Qatari poet Mohammed Al-Ajami was imprisoned for life recently for the crime of criticizing the Emir of Qatar.
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January 28th, 2013, 2:41 pm
omen said:
January 28th, 2013, 2:43 pm
Badr said:
MJABALI @ 5:53 am & SYRIAN HAMSTER @ 6:24 am:
Can you infer what exactly Yassin al-Haj Saleh is proposing as a way out of the quagmire?
January 28th, 2013, 2:46 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Not to listen to trolls
January 28th, 2013, 2:47 pm
zoo said:
Is Fabius asking the FSA to fight al Nusra? No wonder Al Khatib did not show up at this desperate mini “FOS meeting” where the opposition shows it is bankrupt.
Paris Urges Syrian Opposition to Stop Extremists
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/paris-meeting-ensure-nations-syria-promise-18332632
By ELAINE GANLEY Associated Press
PARIS January 28, 2013 (AP)
France warned Monday that extremists could prevail in Syria if nations fail to support the opposition coalition and don’t deliver promised funds and political support soon.
Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, addressing envoys from 50 nations that France is trying to coax into action, says that support is needed to ensure the world’s credibility in the eyes of those fighting President Bashar Assad’s regime.
“We have to give the Syrian people a clear signal: we are at your side,” Fabius said.
January 28th, 2013, 2:55 pm
Citizen said:
– Russia will no longer be able to have a role on the world stage- This is nonsense from the observer need an ophthalmologist!
Russia is the largest country in the world (17 million km 2), occupy two continents and 3 basins and 12 seas, and plump 120 thousand Rivers water, and the largest lake in the world, “Lake Baikal” and contains 20% of the fresh water reserves in the world.
Accounted for the lion’s share of the Soviet legacy, which form the second superpower over four decades, Russia possessed base material huge industrial and agricultural, as well as the massive infrastructure of electricity, roads, marine and air fleets, which is rich in natural resources.
With Putin the former president and current, began a new journey in the life of Russia, and ambitions to restore the role and glory, I grabbed a good reins from its house in order procedure and address the war mafias and support national capital and small businesses, and correct structural and control over economic power and military industries, and provide investment opportunities of local and foreign to increase the volume of industrial production, and in the field of arms, which is an important source of industry and employment remained Russia is the second country in sales volume, as housing construction increased trade and production of oil and natural gas, agricultural and increased grain yield and the number of unemployed.
Russia today gives priority to technology and modern techniques, and seeks to make a leap in the atomic industry and production of missiles and manned space stations.
Russia produces 10% of world production in the field of nano technology
Russia is really a cash machine.
Cheers
January 28th, 2013, 3:08 pm
zoo said:
In his comatose prison Sharon is probably suffering much more that anyone had wished for him.
Israel’s comatose Sharon shows brain activity
By ARON HELLER | Associated Press – 36 mins ago
JERUSALEM (AP) — Seven years after a massive stroke removed him from office and left him in a vegetative state, former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is able to process information and has exhibited “robust activity” in his brain, according to doctors who conducted recent tests.
Though some hoped Sharon might regain consciousness and resume his life, experts warned that was highly unlikely.
…. He hears what they are saying. To what extent he understands, we cannot say for sure … but there are encouraging hints that he does.”
January 28th, 2013, 3:22 pm
revenire said:
Omen the world is confusing. Leave it to Dr. Assad. Syria will recover.
January 28th, 2013, 3:24 pm
Uzair8 said:
66. Citizen said:
“- Russia will no longer be able to have a role on the world stage- This is nonsense from the observer need an ophthalmologist!”
He’s trying to get rid of the existing one.
January 28th, 2013, 3:24 pm
zoo said:
#66 Citizen
Thanks for putting Russia’s greatness and potential in perspective as many commenters here seem to believe that the only powers in the world are the USA , KSA and Qatar…
January 28th, 2013, 3:25 pm
revenire said:
I want to congratulate President and Mrs. Assad on their new expected child. Here is to a healthy baby (and maybe future president of Syria).
January 28th, 2013, 3:27 pm
ghufran said:
NC is asking for $ 500 million to form a government (and to fund retirement accounts for new politicians) but what the coalition got was another speech by the FM of France warning about “extremists” many of the attendees actually support, if that was not funny I do not know what else is.
France’s attempts to stop Geneva conference of opposition.2 failed at a time when attention is being redirected at those who may be more acceptable to fearful regional and international powers who do not like Assad but they are not in love with Jabhat AlNusra and their bloody friends. I knew that France’s foreign policy team is a bunch of idiots but I did not think they will be both stupid and stubborn and support the same people they are fighting in Mali, you may argue that there are non islamists in the NC but their percentage and influence is not much better than straight guys in a gay bar in San Fransisco.
January 28th, 2013, 3:55 pm
revenire said:
LOL Ghufan .. this revolution would be a joke if not for all the dead. The idea of the French killing the rats in Mali but arming them in Syria is a howler.
January 28th, 2013, 4:10 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
@61 what a load of c.r.a.p, never even imagined someone could pile such a load of meaninglessness in one article.
@66 What a waste of potential?… what a sad waste of potential…
January 28th, 2013, 4:11 pm
Citizen said:
Is UK Defense Contractor Planning Syrian WMD False Flag?
Unconfirmed “leaked” documents indicate Washington-approved, Qatari-funded false flag attack using Libyan chemical weapons in Homs, Syria.
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/is-uk-defense-contractor-planning.html
Documents allegedly “hacked” belonging to UK-based defense contractor Britam (official website here) appear to show the company considering an offer from Qatar to use Libyan chemical weapons in Homs, Syria in order to frame both the Syrian and Russian governments. The plan involves using Britam’s Ukrainian mercenaries and Soviet-era chemical weapon shells brought in from Libya’s large, Al Qaeda-linked, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) controlled arsenals.
The e-mail reads:
Phil
We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.
We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.
Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?
Kind regards
David
It should be remembered that this is not confirmed – and there is most likely no way that it can ever be confirmed. However, in light of recent, and continuous attempts by the Israelis and NATO to justify a military intervention in Syria based on fears of “chemical weapons,” and considering how a nearly decade-long war and occupation was fought in neighboring Iraq under similar and patently false pretenses, every potential piece of evidence should be taken seriously.
It should also be remembered that during the Iraq War, British special forces were caught carrying out false flag attacks, dressed as sectarian extremists in Basra, Iraq, and shooting at Iraqi policemen. After the British soldiers were arrested, the British army attacked the police station they were being held at to free them. The precedence of Western nations using false flag operations, including terrorism, to achieve geopolitical objectives beyond their borders most certainly exists.
….
It cannot be said for certain whether the e-mail allegedly sent by Britam is genuine, but the West is openly subverting Syria through the funding and arming of terrorists from across the Arab World. Terrorists are confirmed to be moving through NATO-member Turkey, with the Turkish government’s explicit assistance. Heavy weapons are both being supplied and paid for by the West, and likewise brought across Syria’s borders through NATO-member Turkey.
Despite this, the momentum of NATO’s armed, proxy-aggression toward Syria has been broken multiple times. Threats of a no-fly zone are waning as NATO’s proxies are neutralized with little left to establish a no-fly zone over. The fear now for NATO and its various partners across the region, from Israel to Erdogan in Turkey, to Qatar and Saudi Arabia, is that there will be nothing left of the so-called “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) to intervene on behalf of.
With time running out and the Syrian people still stalwartly defending their nation, it is possible that the desperate measures described in the alleged e-mail from Britam have been considered – as the rhetorical groundwork to accommodate such measures has already been long-ago laid out by the complicit Western media. The purpose of exposing this alleged e-mail is not necessarily to accuse Britam, but to remind readers to be vigilant. And should “chemical weapons” be used in Syria in an apparent joint Syrian-Russian operation, Britam, the United Kingdom, and Qatar should be the first suspects that come to mind.
In the end: Qatari lizard, Saudi Arabia and England! You are international centers of terror! Will come upon you the evil of your actions! Sure!
January 28th, 2013, 4:26 pm
Citizen said:
74:
c.r.a.p , waste, sad waste- are the field of your bright thinking!
Continue in this direction!
Russian space missile
http://youtu.be/1lhKY1rXyMo?t=1m6s
Moon Soon? Russia plans manned Lunar base in 10 years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV9HMw64e60
VACUUM BOMB (Nanotechnology) Made in Russia
http://youtu.be/fd6l_EZKvPc?t=1m28s
Electrocars & Nanotech: Russia a modern manufacturing magnet?
January 28th, 2013, 5:03 pm
Syrian said:
Paolo Dall’Oglio
أعزاء الكرامة،
أبناء سوريا وبناتها الغاليين
في الداخل الخطير أو في غربة المنفى المريرة،
إنني من يومين كنت في تجمع كبير للأكراد السوريين في كردستان العراق، السليمانية،
وكان قلق الديموقراطيين الكرد كبيرا على أهاليهم وقراهم وعلى ما تعانيه الثورة من تحديات، كثيرون منهم عساكر وضباط سوريون منشقون ويتساءلون عن إمكانية العودة…
إنني الآن في اسطانبول لأجل اجتماع للسوريين المهتمين بالعدالة الانتقالية واسترداد الحقوق للمواطنين المظلومين طيلة عشرات السنين و بالمصالحة الوطنية في نطاق النصر القريب والصحيح إن شاء الله!
وهنا أيضاً أجد عددا من المواطنين قد امتلؤوا من القلق على أوضاع الجزيرة وسكانها على مختلف أطيافها…
المشاكل تحصل في مثل ظروفنا ولا أحد بإمكانه أن يتخلص منها تماما… إن جذورها عميقة وعتيقة ونحصل الآن على ثمارها المسمومة…
ونعلم أن الوضع على خط العاصي ليس أسهل بل أصعب…
مع ذلك لا نتشاءم بل نجدد التعهد مع أنفسنا بأن نزداد كل يوم التزاما في خدمة
وحدة المجتمع والوطن وعمق المصالحة على أساس توطيد العدالة ورفض منطق الانتقام.
ومن جهة لا بد من جمع الشهادات والبراهين عن الجرائم القديمة منها والجديدة الصادرة عن أعداء الإنسانية من جلادي النظام وغيرهم أيا كانوا!
أيها الأحباء
إن بلدنا وإيانا في مأزق قدره الله لنا
وهي محنة وشدة وفي الوقت نفسه فرصة ومجال لتأسيس فعلي لمجتمع سوري يليق بأصالتنا الحضارية وقيمنا الدينية والروحية وحسن الجوار الخاص بتقليدنا وإرثنا الصرف.
ننجح قريبا إن شاء الله ولكن موقفنا هو موقف نتخذه أمام السماء وأمام أمهات الشهيدات والشهداء وأمام كل من شوهه هذا العنف اللعين! موقفنا هو هو أمام الحياة والموت! والسلام عليكم
الراهب بولص
January 28th, 2013, 5:28 pm
Majed97 said:
Has anyone noticed Iran’s space achievement today in sending a monkey into space and returning it to earth safely?!? Only a handful of countries have been able to do that. It may not be a major achievement for countries like the US and Russia, but it is certainly a big deal for a Middle Eastern country. At least Iran is using its oil money to build an independent scientific industrial base, instead of wasting it on fancy luxurious buildings and fast women…I wonder what KSA and Qatar have done/ doing with their trillions of dollars they’ve been collecting from their oil and gas?!?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21230691
January 28th, 2013, 5:31 pm
Syrian said:
ملخص كلمة معاذ الخطيب التي ألقيت في مؤتمر دافوس بتاريخ ٢٥ كانون الثاني ٢٠١٣ Shahrazad Junnde
Informal gathering of world economic leaders
Friday 25 January 2013
السلام عليكم
اشكر دعوتكم الكريمة لحضور هذا الملتقى.
هناك رسالة هامة من بشار الأسد خلاصتها ان الربيع العربي هو فقاعة صابون.
الشعب السوري يتساءل: هل هناك تفاهم دولي مع الانظمة الديكتاتورية؟ وهل الحرية شيء تنادي به بعض البلاد في أراضيها ثم تنكره على الامم الاخرى المضطهدة؟
ان أسئلة الكثيرين ممن نقابلهم تتمحور غالبا حول ثلاثة أسئلة دائماً ، وبصراحة صار هناك شعور بالملل منها وهي عن :
١- الإرهاب ٢ -الأسلحة الكيميائية ٣- الطائفية.
– أما الإرهاب فمن المؤكد انه لايمكن لأي جهة في العالم ان تقوم بالإرهاب أكثر من هذا النظام المتوحش الذي يقصف حتى الجامعات والمخابز ويعتقل عشرات الألوف من أبناء شعبنا. وهناك صمت دولي عن جرائمه
– الاسلحة الكيميائية نكتة ثقيلة يتساءل السوريون عما ان كانت وسيلة لابقاء النظام للمحافظة عليها، وإن الشعوب لم تنس التلاعب الدولي باستخدام حيلة الاسلحة النووية لتدمير العراق ، فهل تستخدم الآن بطريقة ما معاكسة ضد الشعب السوري؟ ان التصريحات بان استخدام الاسلحة الكيميائية ضد المدنيين هو خط احمر قد فهم منها النظام ان كل شيء اخر مسموح، وهو في الحقيقة استخدم ما لايقل عن الاسلحة الكيميائية خطورة من القصف بالاسلحة الثقيلة والقنابل العنقودية والفراغية وبالطائرات الحربية ، ولم تواجه تلك الافعال بتحرك دولي لايقاف هذا التوحش ضد شعب يعاني منذ سنتين مالم يسبق ان مر بتاريخ البشر .
موضوع الطائفية لا يحتاج الى كثير من الكلام ، والنظام وضع نفسه حاميا للأقليات وهو الذي اضطهد الجميع ، ويكفيكم شاهدا على توحشه ما فعله في لبنان.
لقد اضطهد النظام الجميع ووضعهم في مواجهة بعضهم : اضطهد المسلمين والمسيحيين والعلويين والعرب والأكراد والسوريين والفلسطينيين …
على المجتمع الدولي ان يتخذ موقفا واضحا مما أوصل النظام الشعب السوري اليه من تهجير ودمار واعتقال وتعذيب وتدمير للبنية التحتية.
طالب بعض السوريين بالتدخل العسكري فتحدثت جهات عن تسليح المعارضة ، وعندما رضي كثيرون من الثوار بذلك ليدافعوا عن بلدهم وابنائهم اكتشفوا ان الامر يعني استثناء السلاح النوعي ، وعندما تعاطوا مع هذا الواقع برز الكلام عن حل سياسي! وحتى اذا قبلنا بحل سياسي منعا للمزيد من الدماء ، ولكن بشكل يحترم حقوق الناس ودمائهم النازفة ، فاننا نفاجئ بعدم وجود اجماع دولي على الحل.
تتساءل الشعوب بمرارة عن الدم السوري، الا يستحق تحركا ما وهو ينزف من سنتين! ام ان الارادة الدولية تجد الشجاعة فقط لتقرر الهجوم على مالي مهما كانت كلفة ذلك.
ليكن معلوما ان الشعب السوري لن يعود الى العبودية مهما كان الثمن وإن كان هناك حل سياسي يحترم كرامة السوريين ودماء شهدائهم فنحن نرحب به ، ويمكن ان يكون ذلك بحكومة انتقالية لها صلاحيات كاملة (اي تكون كامل السلطة بين يديها) .. ولقد طالب الثوار مرارا بفرض حظر جوي على الاقل يحمي المدنيين من القصف الجوي المتوحش ، ولم يحصل شيء حول ذلك ، وسيفرض الثوار الأمر بطريقتهم ، ولذا فقد أعلنت قيادة الأركان البارحة ان المطارات السورية هي مناطق تجري فيها عمليات عسكرية وحرصا على ارواح المدنيين وعدم حصول اي اذى لهم فيطلب من كافة شركات الطيران الابتعاد عنها.
ان أي تعامل مائع مع المسألة سيقوض كثيرا من المفاهيم ، وإذا كانت بعض الدول تخشى من فراغ ما بسقوط النظام ، فان استمراره سيؤدي الى نتائج أخطر بكثير .
قد تكون تجربة إخواننا الأكراد في كردستان العراق تجربة غنية تجب الاستفادة منها في حل بعض إشكاليات الوضع السوري ، كما ان تحرر الشعب المنغولي من الديكتاتورية (والتي تحدث عنها مشكورا رئيس منغولية السيد ايلبيغدورج تساخيا تجربة رائدة سنحاول الاستفادة منها.
اشكر اصغائكم
January 28th, 2013, 5:41 pm
Darryl said:
78. MAJED97 said:
“I wonder what KSA and Qatar have done/ doing with their trillions of dollars they’ve been collecting from their oil and gas?!?”
Well they have been spending it “in the way of Allah” as Allah commands in the Qur’an and they will receive a bigger interest on their investment as Allah has promised. Eventhough Majed97, interest is not permitted in Allah’s religion but on this occasion Allah has permitted interest when you spend money on Him and His religion.
Iran will not receive a reward in the afterlife.
January 28th, 2013, 5:57 pm
Syria no Kandahar said:
Majed7
Yet Iran sends an Iranian American citizen to 8 years prison term for building a church.Iran was the fatal Alawis mistake,it is a shia KSA.
January 28th, 2013, 6:09 pm
Tara said:
Kandi,
Ah.. Be careful. You are treading a dangerous territory. Those who loved you will love you no more. One more such a statement would make you a Zionist, secretly loving Israel. Please retract.
January 28th, 2013, 6:15 pm
revenire said:
I still so thrilled that Mrs. and Mrs. Assad are expecting. He can’t be too concerned about the situation if he remains that potent.
January 28th, 2013, 6:25 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Good afternoon, retard.
January 28th, 2013, 7:24 pm
zoo said:
After the UK “expert meeting”: “Unfortunately, the meeting failed to deliver anything resembling a plan for what happens”
Meetings after meetings the ‘expat’ opposition gets deeper and deeper into irrelevance
London proves to be luckless on Syria
January 29, 2013 12:43 AM
By Michael Glackin
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Opinion/Commentary/2013/Jan-29/204139-london-proves-to-be-luckless-on-syria.ashx#axzz2JJrxcHkK
British Prime Minister David Cameron appears to have the opposite of the Midas touch when it comes to foreign affairs. He has never looked particularly comfortable on the world stage, and these days he appears particularly hapless.
For instance, Cameron isn’t having much luck when it comes to his attempts to influence events in Syria. The growing complexities of the Syrian crisis have intensified Western anxieties about what will follow the anticipated toppling of President Bashar Assad. Government insiders talk about “facing another Iraq,” amid fears of a full blown sectarian civil war emerging from the ruins of the Assad regime.
To assuage such fears and accelerate planning for post-Assad Syria, the Foreign Office hosted a meeting this month with the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces at Wilton Park in Sussex. The meeting, which took place behind closed doors, was a perfect opportunity for the Syrian opposition to finally outline its plans for running Syria in the immediate aftermath of Assad’s removal. It was hoped the coalition would at long last reveal who will serve in its transitional government and provide some information to representatives from Arab and Western governments at the meeting of what plans are in place to maintain order and ensure that state institutions continue to function once the Baath regime collapses.
In a Twitter message about the conference, the British Foreign Secretary, William Hague, pithily said: “Assad’s departure from power inevitable. Vital that international community plans ahead for the day after in Syria.” Unfortunately, the meeting failed to deliver anything resembling a plan for what happens “the day after.”
January 28th, 2013, 7:30 pm
zoo said:
10 rebels killed in northeast Syria, clashes in capital: activists
January 28, 2013 11:02 AM
Agence France Presse
BEIRUT: Ten rebels were killed in combat with government forces in Hasakeh, a majority-Kurdish city in northeast Syria, while fighting raged in a Damascus district on Monday, activists said.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the fighting in Hasakeh occurred at the Al-Ghazal roundabout late on Sunday, but gave no further details.
Hasakeh is the capital of a province of the same name that has seen fighting between a complex array of rival forces, including between rebels and the army, between Kurdish popular committees and Islamist rebels on the Turkish border, and between Kurdish militiamen and regime forces.
Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Jan-28/204027-10-rebels-killed-in-northeast-syria-clashes-in-cap.ashx#ixzz2JJuvqPjO
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)
January 28th, 2013, 7:36 pm
revenire said:
Gee, I hope Cameron and Hague don’t commit suicide because their plans to replace Assad with a puppet failed. Is anyone in the house a doctor? If so please ring 10 Downing and see if they need assistance. It might be an emergency.
January 28th, 2013, 7:58 pm
revenire said:
Tara did Asma’s cousins invite you to the baby shower? No? We can fantasize (like we do about the “rebels” winning): What would you buy the woman who has everything?
Did the mother really defect or is that just another Saudi lie?
🙂
January 28th, 2013, 8:01 pm
omen said:
one thing about rebels opening a new front in latakia is that it served to further stretch thin the regime army. how many troops and choppers were pulled out of homs in order to cover the coastal region?
January 28th, 2013, 8:16 pm
omen said:
January 28th, 2013, 8:21 pm
revenire said:
Our brothers burning the Qatari flag in Egypt:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/391282_479980465371074_303971711_n.jpg
Omen they will die the same as the others. Homs is ours and you won’t ever take it.
January 28th, 2013, 8:31 pm
Ghufran said:
Darayya is about to fall, this will be celebrated by regime supporters but it will also pressure rebels to push somewhere else or ignite another battle , Jabhat Alnusra will try to stage another terrorist attack to keep the flames of war alive with no end in sight. Syrians are doomed if the regime wins and they are doomed if the rebels win, neither side can be trusted and neither side is willing to compromise. The regime is cashing on the West’s suspicion of a rebel movement that is looking increasingly like a twin of alqa’eda, and rebels seem to have no problem financing their network of jihadists thanks to Turkey, Qatar and a new “business plan” that relies on taxes, extortion and smuggling. Overall, Turkey’s position will be crucial to determine how long rebels can resist regime forces bombardment, they,the rebels, are therefore more than willing to play hired guns for turkey by attacking Kurds , you can say with a great degree of certainty that Kurds will not join the armed rebellion against the regime after realizing that rebels are foot soldiers for Turkey.
January 28th, 2013, 8:41 pm
revenire said:
Oh, I don’t know. Many rats will be exterminated in Darayya. That is a good thing.
January 28th, 2013, 8:43 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Daraya’s been “about to fall” for months now. Even if it falls temporarily, what does it matter? The rebels will return there in a couple of months anyways.
The regime doesn’t have the manpower. It can bomb, and try to kill, but it can’t end the war and it can’t hold territory outside of what it already controls.
January 28th, 2013, 8:49 pm
Syrian said:
91. REVENIRE said:
” Homs is ours and you won’t ever take it.”
So it is obvious where is Reve from,a die hard supporter who knows a lot about Syria but can not speak Arabic.
An Alawait from Hatay Turkey.
I want again to thank Kamal Attatoruk for taking Hatay and its inhabitants from our hands
Imagin another half million of Reve. type to deal with
January 28th, 2013, 8:52 pm
MarigoldRan said:
No, Revenire’s a dumb white American with psychological issues and neither employment nor a life.
He doesn’t have anything better to do, so he continuously trolls 16 hours a day. And even in that he fails.
In other words, a loser.
January 28th, 2013, 8:54 pm
Tara said:
He is going to be called “blood”.
Syria’s Bashar al-Assad says his wife is pregnant
By Max Fisher, Published: MONDAY, JANUARY 28, 2:49 PM ET
…
Past rumors have suggested that Assad became pregnant in June. According to the Jordan-based al-Bawaba news site, a Syrian outlet named Akhbar Shabab Soriya (Syria Youth News) reported in November that she was five months pregnant. If any of this is true, it would suggest that she is due in March.
June 2012 would have been a difficult time for the Assad family to add a new member. That month, the violence became so bad – and cooperation from the Syrian authorities so frustratingly poor – that the United Nations formally withdrew its monitoring mission from the country. A Turkish jet also went down near the border, sparking fears of an all-out war. The next month, rebels took responsibility for a massive explosion in the capital city’s national security building, which killed top-level officials.
I struggled to find another example of a military leader who had done this during a civil war or national uprising like Syria’s. And the examples of what happens to such leadership families when their side loses this sort of conflict can be disquieting. The Russian Czar’s family was mostly killed after the 1917 revolution. The leaders of Soviet-era states such as Romania and East Germany were banished along with their wives. Hosni Mubarak’s children have faced criminal accusations; Moammar Gaddafi’s have either been killed, imprisoned, or scattered to remote and warily sympathetic states such as Niger.
January 28th, 2013, 9:09 pm
revenire said:
Now THAT’S a man! A war going on and he feels confident enough of winning he fosters another Assad. I wish we had 1,000,000 Bashars.
Give us the order Mr. President. We await your command.
Damascus does not forget those who spilled her blood.
January 28th, 2013, 9:14 pm
Ghufran said:
Chulov in northern Latakia province:
Al-Nusra had not looted the homes of Christian families who had fled, said Abu Ghaith. “They are being careful about them,” he said. “But they do whatever they want with the Alawites.”
January 28th, 2013, 9:18 pm
Syrian said:
It speaks volumes how few hundreds FSA men have been fighting the best division Batta has in to offer.
If he ever take Darayya over, the FSA sure have made Batta pay very dearly for it.
Even then he will have to tie up his best division there witch will free other areas, or leave it and then it will be taken over again by the FSA, it already happen once before
January 28th, 2013, 9:45 pm
revenire said:
Ziad tells us that no rats escaped (Syrian please get a grip and stop trying to test whether or not I can read/write Arabic and Farsi – I speak 7 languages).
HOMS: I told you about how effective the SAA has been in plugging up the major infiltration routes from Wadi Khalid in Lebanon to Talkalakh. But that hasn’t stopped the lemmings from trying to break into the Syrian countryside. They made it to Al-Quseir by splitting up and using back roads to outwit the Syrian army. Not a good idea. With new recruits and militia in place, the rodents were caught in an ambush outside Al-Qusair and killed to a man. They were not only outnumbered but seriously outgunned. Wael said they appeared to have been planning to arm themselves from a cache of weapons in Al-Quseir. Unfortunately, because all were killed, the SAA has no clue as to where the stash is.
At Jawbar, the SAA had a field day killing these apes:
Muhammad Bakkar
Ghiyath Al-Rifa’i
Maher Rasland
Qusayy Adawi (Lebanese)
Hani Al-Hussein
Rashad Al-Turk
January 28th, 2013, 9:52 pm
omen said:
92. Ghufran said: Overall, Turkey’s position will be crucial to determine how long rebels can resist regime forces bombardment, they, the rebels, are therefore more than willing to play hired guns for turkey by attacking Kurds, you can say with a great degree of certainty that Kurds will not join the armed rebellion against the regime after realizing that rebels are foot soldiers for Turkey.
this is about oil.
from jan 2012:
you can’t expect rebels to stand by and allow the regime to continue exploit the region to produce revenue and fuel to run military transport. it’s only common sense fsa would try to shut this down.
January 28th, 2013, 9:53 pm
Syrian said:
96MGR
What do you have against ” dump white American” to accuse them of having someone like Revenire in their midst
white American dose not care about Syria and would not know the importance of Homs for their dream of the future Alawaistan.
He is most likely a new imgrant to the US who lives in the basement or the attic of the house, obviously acting as a married man, not mature enough to have a civilized conversation with a lady.
January 28th, 2013, 10:02 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Yeah, ok. I apologize to any dumb white Americans who might be reading this. You’re better than Revenire, and I apologize for comparing you to to that loser.
It’s like calling Revenire a pig. It’s an insult to pigs everywhere.
January 28th, 2013, 10:05 pm
Sheila said:
Dear Rev,
It seems more plausible that Mrs. assad’s pregnancy is a direct result of her husband’s frustration than his “potency”. It is clear that this was the only “battle” he could win.
By the way, where are your parents? Are you allowed online at your age? From your writings, your are clearly no older than 10 based on the fact that my 11 year old has far better reasoning skills than you. When you grow up, you will understand what I am talking about, meanwhile, please stick to simpler subjects commensurate with your mental abilities or lack there of.
January 28th, 2013, 10:11 pm
revenire said:
Wishing Mr. President Bashar al-Assad and his beautiful and intelligent wife Mrs. Asma al-Assad a healthy and comfortable pregnancy. Good luck and congratulations.
January 28th, 2013, 11:41 pm
Ghufran said:
Syrian,let me assume that you are actually Syrian who lived in Syria, obviously I can not be sure. After Darayya is destroyed and thousands of its families become refugees with no homes to go back to, and after scores of people get killed and arrested it won’t matter much to the regime if rebels visit the town again, do not expect a major presence for the army in that town after it is taken over. As you can see, different people do not interpret any given picture in the same way, what kills me is the utter destruction, the heart breaking misery and the collapse of the mother land, I doubt that we are on the same page, many of you see this as a winner and loser game, the truth is we are all losers.
January 28th, 2013, 11:51 pm
Juergen said:
FSA denies its role in this operation.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/01/28/syrias-bashar-al-assad-says-his-wife-is-pregnant/
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=203001269824650&set=a.190650757726368.18268.190416144416496&type=1&theater
January 29th, 2013, 12:14 am
Juergen said:
Inside the war for Syria’s mountains
Rebels are occupying Alawite houses in a region known for its tradition of sectarian coexistence in an offensive that looks likely to determine the fate of the country’s cosmopolitan heart
“We have asked the Christian authorities,” the rebel leader said as the smoke cleared. “We have even asked the priests in the north what to do. One gave us his permission to attack the town; another said not to. We want some guidance. Will the west talk to us about this?”
http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/28/war-syria-mountains
http://rosealhomsi.wordpress.com/2013/01/28/i-miss-my-family-homs-syria/
January 29th, 2013, 12:27 am
Ghufran said:
Tunisia president sent his rep to Geneva conference who delivered a speech that calls on Syrians to think beyond toppling the regime by working on s platform that is inclusive and democratic.
Adonis directed harsh criticism at western governments and religious establishment and suggested that freedom and democracy does not come from the top but from a change at the individual level ( a change that will not come overnight).
Anyway you see it, a lot of people are choosing to take a second look at the Syrian war and becoming more realistic with their goals and expectations.
I yet have to read a speech at Paris conference that is worth mentioning, a conference that collected a bunch of beggars who are hostages to the MB and foreign powers.
January 29th, 2013, 12:44 am
Visitor said:
Re: Mullah-stan Darth Vaders
Khamenei and his mullah monkeys all went to the galaxie at ludicrous speed on board space balls. They are now referred to by mullah subjects as the Darth Vaders.
The simple fact about Mullah-stan is that it cannot refine its own crude to produce gasoline for its own use.
But we know now why Qom-stan imports back its own crude refined into gasoline. It is all part of the grand-mullah genius design to travel to the end of the universe at ludicrous speed,
How about watching Space Balls, guys, instead of Monkey Balls?
January 29th, 2013, 1:27 am
Syrian said:
Guffran.
Darayya is already completely destroyed,and with it all of the towns of both Ghoutas,your ignorance of that fact and who did it only shows your complete confusion about the whole Syrian revolution.
Darayya is important because it so close to Mazeh air port and Mazeh so they will have to stay there….
Your suggestion that your heart is broken for the misery and destruction of the “mother land”while we are not, is another example of your misunderstanding of the whole thing
You keep throwing accusations and lecturing the wrong side, it was Bashar from his 1st speech who talked of war,before anyone had a gun in his hand,
One last thing your analyses is built on a bygone era, this is not your typical Mohamood Darwish revolution, of brotherly Capitals throwing away his suit cases and roads running away from his feet.
This the revolution of the % 70 of Syrians who are under 30 and looking for a better life,I doubt Adonis make any meaning to them
January 29th, 2013, 1:30 am
Juergen said:
This is a great read for today:
Interview with Sadik Al Azm( in arabic)
http://therepublicgs.net/2013/01/10/%D8%AD%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%82-%D9%85%D8%B9-%D8%B5%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%82-%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B8%D9%85-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%B4%D8%A3%D9%86/
here in a translated version by google:
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=ar&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftherepublicgs.net%2F2013%2F01%2F10%2F%25D8%25AD%25D9%2588%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1-%25D9%2581%25D9%258A-%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584%25D8%25B9%25D9%2585%25D9%2582-%25D9%2585%25D8%25B9-%25D8%25B5%25D8%25A7%25D8%25AF%25D9%2582-%25D8%25AC%25D9%2584%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584-%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584%25D8%25B9%25D8%25B8%25D9%2585-%25D9%2581%25D9%258A-%25D8%25B4%25D8%25A3%25D9%2586%2F
January 29th, 2013, 1:59 am
revenire said:
Let’s not forget Mrs. Assad is Sunni.
January 29th, 2013, 2:03 am
Juergen said:
funny commercial, not that old though
January 29th, 2013, 2:10 am
Juergen said:
Think Again: The Muslim Brotherhood
How did so many Western analysts get Egypt’s Islamist movement so wrong?
“Don’t kid yourself. Long before the Jan. 25 revolution that ousted Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, many academics and policymakers argued that his main adversary — the Muslim Brotherhood — had made its peace with democracy. This was based on the assumption that, since the Muslim Brotherhood participated in virtually every election under Mubarak, it was committed to the rule of the people as a matter of principle.”
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/01/28/think_again_the_muslim_brotherhood_egypt?page=full
January 29th, 2013, 2:15 am
Juergen said:
PBS news hour
From Golan Heights, Increasing Concern Over Civil War Next Door in Syria
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/world/jan-june13/israel_01-28.html
January 29th, 2013, 2:40 am
Citizen said:
New Obama Foreign Policy Scandal Bigger than Benghazi-Gate?
http://youtu.be/8Bf3oadIiRk?t=24s
Did Washington “approve” a plan to stage a false flag chemical weapons attack in Syria to be blamed on Assad? This could be a bigger scandal than Benghazi-Gate.
Hacked Emails Reveal ‘Washington-Approved’ Plan to Stage Chemical Weapons Attack in Syria –
silence from Landis! such information to the Syrian comments will not be published!
January 29th, 2013, 2:42 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
REVENIRE,
You are not a syrian, you are like those rats you talk about. Just came here to create hate and chaos. Probably you are Russian or a frustrated french.
January 29th, 2013, 2:59 am
Citizen said:
Coup in Qatar.
of the attempted coup in malignancy, microscopic, “super democratic” oilgazokratii … “Casehardened necessary, otherwise you too will be” Qatar “!
http://youtu.be/GNWCHlCng8s?t=47s
January 29th, 2013, 3:15 am
Dolly Buster said:
I predict the entire Assad family will be wiped out. Some tree-huggers will probably complain that it was unnecessary to kill off Assad’s children. But I believe we cannot pass such judgement in fog of war.
January 29th, 2013, 3:15 am
Juergen said:
Robert Fisk:
The many faces Bashar al-Assad
“Combing anew through the Wikileaks files on Syria, I am struck by a conversation Bashar al-Assad enjoyed with US senators in 2009. Those were the days when the president was Bashar-the-Good, a possible ‘partner for peace’, still two years away from the uprising in which the West (and a lot of Syrians) decided he was Bashar-the-Terrible. The good senators, needless to say, were beating the drum for peace with Israel, a break in Syria’s relations with Iran, etc.
Bashar was too shrewd to buy this line. He wanted a fact-based treaty before real peace. Here are his thoughts, in the words of a US diplomat: “Asad (sic) likened the process to how a doctor should treat cancer. Condemnations and mutual recriminations might be self-satisfying, but the cancer still grows unless the doctor is able to treat the root illness.” And one wonders – let us speak the truth – if Assad remembers this advice.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/from-algeria-a-lesson-in-how-to-bypass-democracy-8468794.html
open letter to US Ambassador Ford by Mouaffaq al Sibai
Fox is not my cup of tea, they made an report of the notorious Evin prison in Tehran
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01/28/inside-evin-look-at-world-most-notorious-political-prison/
January 29th, 2013, 3:15 am
Citizen said:
‘We need more cash & weapons!’ – Syrian opposition VP
http://youtu.be/sZ-H9CxvRt0?t=1m52s
The Syrian opposition is seeking more financial aid from its western backers, with the coalition yet to form a provisional government. This as France warns that Islamist extremists could fall in to power if promised funds and political support from the west fail to materialize. With the conflict nearly 2 years old, RT met one of the leaders of the official opposition and asked him what he thinks is needed to bring peace to Syria.
January 29th, 2013, 5:09 am
Citizen said:
Escobar: Shadow wars & no interventions – US plan for MidEast & Asia
http://youtu.be/uOCT1VprpXY?t=1m12s
A great collaboration over the last four years. That’s how US President Barack Obama described his first term in office with Hillary Clinton – who’s now leaving the post of Secretary of State. Both appeared in a joint televised interview, as America’s top diplomat prepares to step down. Responding to the Obama-Clinton talk, Asia Times correspondent Pepe Escobar says the destabilization of North Africa will only get worse.
January 29th, 2013, 5:12 am
omen said:
a nice summary.
Where in the world is Jihad Makdissi?
my hunch is ford told the truth the first time. makdissi is in the u.s. the state department trying to backtrack and reverse course was out of security consideration. makdissi has family in the states at risk of facing retaliatory threat.
January 29th, 2013, 5:15 am
omen said:
can somebody keep track of this in the arab press? please, please, please…(pouty face) i feel like i’m missing half the story.
January 29th, 2013, 5:21 am
Citizen said:
The US did not set up US/AFRICA Command as a social service agency – Rozoff
http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_01_28/The-US-did-not-set-up-US-AFRICA-Command-as-a-social-service-agency-Rozoff/
Regular Voice of Russia Contributor Rick Rozoff discusses Syrian defenses and how they are preventing a Western invasion, Russian-Syrian cooperation, the pretext of the war on terror to invade countries which he says was part of phase 2 of the US/NATO global expansion, other pretexts used to justify military expansion, the ties between al-Qaeda and the US and the massive expansion by US/NATO into the African continent which will, in effect, bring all of Africa under US/NATO control.
January 29th, 2013, 5:42 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Central prison of Idleb taken by syrian people. Assad gangsters who used to torture syrian people inside the prison have lost their jobs and maybe their lifes too.
January 29th, 2013, 5:54 am
Tara said:
Sheila,
“It seems more plausible that Mrs. assad’s pregnancy is a direct result of her husband’s frustration than his “potency”. It is clear that this was the only “battle” he could win.”
Was in a middle of a serious business meeting last night when I read your post and could not help myself bursting in laughter. You are a smart girl. And no one is really sure if he indeed won that “battle”. There is something called artificial insemination people like Bashar can resort too.
January 29th, 2013, 7:32 am
Citizen said:
The fall of the House of Saud would signal to the Khalifa
….
It should be clear that any funding shortfall for the criminal assault on Syria can’t be made up either by America or by European NATO, given the claimed budget impossibilities, when both countries seek to justify continuing austerity to be borne by their respective peoples.
As funding will be drying up for the mercenaries invading and murdering and laying waste to much infrastructure, it is possible to already say that Bashar al Assad will prevail.
PM Erdogan already knows this, as is indicated by him oddly expressing interest in joining the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, definitely not EU approved of !
“آل سعود” يتحضرون لانتزاع عرشهم.. ويختارون لوس انجلس منفى لهم
علمنا من مصادر خاصة في السعودية أن القصر الملكي أعدّ العدة لحماية الملك عبد الله بن عبد العزيز واسرته وتهريبهم الى المنفى الذي اختارته العائلة في اميركا في حال وصول الثورة الى عقر دارها.
وتقول المصادر ان الملك عبدالله يعيش حاليا حالة قلق واسعة وبدأ يضع في حسابه إمكانية وصول الثورة السعودية الى عرشه وانتزاعه منه.
وقد اختارت العائلة الحاكمة مكان اقامتها في المنفى في أغلى المناطق في أميركا إن لم تكن الأغلى في العالم، وهي منطقة الأثرياء في لوس أنجلوس “بريفلي هيلز” حيث تم صرف مليارات الدولارات لبناء مجمع قصور لآل سعود، ملكا وامراء، اولادا واحفاد، فيما ملايين الشعب السعودي يعيش الفقر ويحتاج للمساعدات.
وتقول مصادر صحفية ان أثرياء هذه المنطقة أقلقتهم جيرة الملك المرتقبة خاصة وأن مكان الملك وأسرته سيكون مجمعا لعدة قصور على مساحة ٨٥ ألف قدم مربع، ثمن الأرض وحدها بلغ ١٢ مليون دولارا، خفضت الى ستين ألف قدم مربع بعد شكاوى السكان والتي لا زالت قائمة حتى بعد التخفيض، انتهت بأن يرفع إبن الملك السعودي والمشرف على المشروع عبد العزيز بن عبد الله قضية على بلدية “لوس أنجلوس” وذلك قبل ما يقرب من ستة أشهر.
وقد اعترض السكان على مجمع القصور لضخامته والذي قد يغير جغرافية المنطقة التي سيبنى فيها وسيضيق على الطرق الفرعية في تلك المنطقة، ناهيك أن فترة البناء ستحدث إزعاجا للسكان وتلوثا في بيئة المنطقة خاصة وأن المجمع المنوي بنائه سيكون مشرفا على الأحياء التي حوله.
وقام أهالي منطقة بريفلي هيلز بينهم اللاعب البريطاني ديفيد بيكهام وزوجته فكتوريا وبعض الوجوه الاعلامية والفنية بتوقيع عريضة ضد بناء مجمع القصور هذا لتضررهم منه.
ولم يستطع المعترضين الحصول على كثير من المعلومات من بلدية لوس أنجلس حيث تعامل البلدية طلب الأمير عبد العزيز بسرية تامة حسب ما طلب منهم، كما ان الأمير السعودي رفض إعطاء تفاصيل كثيرة بخصوص المشروع للبلدية والتي تستعد لشق شارع خاص نحو هذا المجمع.
January 29th, 2013, 8:18 am
Citizen said:
lust of death and destruction is what defines these people.
Syria: found a place of mass executions in Aleppo
since they do so much purple pills, nothing thrills them anymore,
January 29th, 2013, 8:33 am
zoo said:
#124 Citizen
Good riddance of Miss Piggy. She has been the most traveled and most inept US secretary of States in years.
This is why Obama, forever indebted to her husband for his re-election has tried to boost her by appearing with her on TV and tried to minimize her failures that peaked with the murders of the US ambassador in Benghazi due to her negligence..
She has no chance to get any important job anymore. She is finished.
January 29th, 2013, 8:43 am
Ghufran said:
عثر على جثث عشرات الشبان، في حي يقع تحت سيطرة مقاتلي المعارضة في مدينة حلب في شمال سوريا، وقد “أعدموا برصاصات في الرأس”، بحسب ما أفاد المرصد السوري لحقوق الإنسان وشهود اليوم.
January 29th, 2013, 8:43 am
zoo said:
Mali or Syria?
Assad of Syria Grows Stronger as Population of Northern Syria Turns Against Rebels; France Tied Down in Mali; Obama Backs Off; Saudi, Jordan, Turkey Get Cold Feet
[Översätt]
Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
January 27, 2013
http://tarpley.net/2013/01/28/assad-of-syria-grows-stronger-as-population-of-northern-syria-turns-against-rebels-france-tied-down-in-mali-obama-backs-off-saudi-jordan-turkey-get-cold-feet/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss
…
So the imperialists have made a terrible blunder – it kind of reminds you of Hitler in 1941. They’ve split their forces; they’ve gone on to Algeria and Mali before they’ve finished off Syria and I think they’re going to live to regret that. Obama is interested in backing off…
And then we can look at these countries like Saudi Arabia – there is a defeatist faction in the royal family that is trying to seek contacts with Syria to put an end, at least to the current phase.
The King of Jordan says it’s hopeless, Assad will not fall. And then in Turkey – this is perhaps the most interesting – Erdogan is gradually figuring out that he has been duped by Obama about the fall of Syria – that took him about a year to figure that out. And the fall of Davutoglu, the foreign minister who is responsible for a lot of this adventurism is now according to some, on the agenda.
So, if we look at the entire array of forces attacking Syria, we see that there is great disorder and great defeatism and not a very aggressive platform. And I think we can also assume that the losses among the death squads have been very, very heavy.
January 29th, 2013, 8:53 am
zoo said:
Where is Jihad Makdissi? Where is the ‘president’ Moaz Al Khatib?
January 29th, 2013, 9:06 am
Tara said:
More news of Batta gaining the “upper hand”,,,,
Rebels storm security agency in eastern Syria – sources
Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:16pm GMT
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKBRE90S0GR20130129?irpc=932
BEIRUT (Reuters) – Rebels in Syria including al Qaeda-linked Islamist fighters captured a security agency in the eastern city of Deir al-Zor after days of heavy fighting, an activists’ video and a pro-opposition monitoring group said on Tuesday.
A video posted online showed men armed with assault rifles cheering as they stood outside a building they said was the local intelligence agency branch.
January 29th, 2013, 9:06 am
zoo said:
A tale of two meetings on Syria (Paris and Geneva) SNC vs NCB
DAMASCUS, Jan. 29 (Xinhua) — The Syrian government slammed on Tuesday an opposition meeting held a day earlier in Paris, but seemed tilting towards another meeting held in Geneva on the same day.
Two meetings of the Syrian opposition groups have been held in two Western capitals with apparent similar titles, but with absolutely dissimilar ways.
….
Geneva hosted a day earlier the “International Conference for Syrian democratic and civil state” with the participation of the country’s prominent National Coordination Body (NCB) in Diaspora and dignitaries from Arab and Western countries. Its stark title was the rejection of foreign intervention in Syria.
Observers and participants at the conference claimed that pressures have been practiced by France to disrupt the meeting and that around 60 personalities have denied access to Switzerland.
Haitham Manna, a prominent Syrian opposition figure and head of the NCB abroad, claimed that more than 60 personalities didn’t take part because the Swiss authorities hadn’t granted them visas under pressures from France.
Simultaneously, France hosted another opposition meeting that aimed to support the new umbrella Syrian National Coalition. During the meeting, which was attended by the three Syrian National Coalition vice-presidents, France appealed on countries to keep their promises of funding and submitting other aid to the Syrian opposition.
January 29th, 2013, 9:19 am
Dolly Buster said:
I have a problem with this term Imperialism. What is the Empire in question, who are the Emperors?
It is a mistake. There are actually no emperors, so you should forget about this imperialism nonsense.
Do you seriously think every American citizen is an Emperor?
Obviously not, so STFU with “Imperialism.”
January 29th, 2013, 9:23 am
zoo said:
USA’s brilliant solution to Syria violence: Let’s create a competition of weapons between the ‘moderate’ armed rebels and the ‘terrorists ‘ones
Consequences of U.S. inaction in Syria are clear
By Editorial Board, Published: January 28
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/consequences-of-us-inaction-in-syria-are-clear/2013/01/28/a03dad0e-6978-11e2-95b3-272d604a10a3_story.html
“It could provide arms to moderate rebel factions, so that they can compete with the jihadists and so that they will look to the United States when the war is over.”
January 29th, 2013, 9:26 am
Tara said:
Zoo,
That is what I was saying all along. Arm the moderate rebels so they can overthrow al Assad without the help of al Nusra. This will guarantee no foothold in Syria for Islamists. When is Obama will be seeing the light?
January 29th, 2013, 9:31 am
revenire said:
“What is the Empire in question, who are the Emperors?”
The British and Saudi empires with their financial power as “emperors” naturally. “British brains, American muscle” is an old, old term. The West – the West against Iran, against Hezbollah, against Syria. The same West that overthrew the Iranian government in 1953. The same West that colonized the Middle East and drew the current maps based on Sykes-Picot. That empire.
West is run by a financial oligarchy which controls its elections and policies to the detriment of its people. This is the kind of freedom, in addition to beheadings, the FSA al-Nusra terrorists fight for.
You have a problem with the term imperialism because you’re ignorant of history. Good thing you have zero influence on the world stage, aside from among of few pro-terrorist posters on a message forum.
January 29th, 2013, 9:49 am
zoo said:
140. Tara
Practically this is totally an impossible task.
I always said that the FSA made two fatal mistakes: They rejected the cooperation with the political opposition and they embraced the terrorists.
In my view they are living their last days before being totally taken over by Al Nusra.
Without the FSA and with a weaker than ever NC, the opposition has no more chance to resist the pressure to negotiate
January 29th, 2013, 10:15 am
Dolly Buster said:
So, did you buy a water filter from Alex Jones, to safeguard yourself from these Imperialists and their fluoride ?
People who are rich have contributed something to the economy.
For example Larry Page, the fact that he is an oligarch is well deserved.
Unlike garbage countries that you support, which have manufactured nothing useful in history.
Here is a video of Russo-Shiite success:
January 29th, 2013, 10:17 am
ghufran said:
The only thing armed thugs have to do to justify killing any Syrian is to accuse him of being an agent of the other side, those of you who think it is only the regime who is doing this are not qualified to talk about “crimes against Syrians”. there is a reason why god gave us two eyes:
أفاد ناشطو الثورة السورية أن مقاتلي الجيش الحر اغتالوا الصيدلي “رائد صقر” من بلدة القرداحة مسقط رأس عائلة الأسد ، في حي الجميلية بحلب.
و اتهم الناشطون الصيدلي بأنه اعتدى على كثير من الناس و ضرب الحرائر، يتعاون مع قوات الأمن في الابلاغ عن أي تحركات للمعارضين
(source: askalsair)
Tozz feekon wa bihalthawra
January 29th, 2013, 10:20 am
revenire said:
Tara you’re ridiculous. There are no moderates to arm. There is a foreign conspiracy to overthrow a government for geopolitical aims – nothing else. It is armed and funded from outside Syria. The mercenaries of that foreign conspiracy behead people and feed them to the dogs. If the West sends them more weapons (and they already send them enough weapons and monies to keep this going) those pigs would turn their weapons on the West, as they did in Libya and Mali. I think many in positions of power in the West realize that.
There is no FSA. It is a myth of the media and the West. A collection of 10,000 small brigades killing each other over stolen loot is not an army.
There was never a FSA rejection of anything. There never was a central command over the FSA gangs.
Go to Aleppo, or any number of areas where terrorists have taken control of sections of the nation, and ask the people who is in charge.
Tara when you see editorials calling for arming the moderates you should take that newspaper and use it to line your bird cage. These are no more than ravings of lunatics feasting on dead dreams.
January 29th, 2013, 10:23 am
GEORGES said:
http://rt.com/news/syria-opposition-activist-949/
RT: And what about Al Nusra group from Iraq? Are these people fighting for freedom and democracy as well?
George Sabra: They are fighting for freedom and democracy, but maybe we will face some problem with them.
This is why nobody takes this failure of a coalition seriously. Mr.Sabra should step down and stop embarrassing himself further.
January 29th, 2013, 10:26 am
revenire said:
If you mean me no I don’t buy anything from Alex Jones. He is like a broken clock: correct twice a day.
Western politicians and their elections are run by money. Everyone knows that. Oligarchy. Financial oligarchy.
You tell me who overthrew Mossadegh in 1953. Go ahead. Tell me who installed their puppet the Shah. I have plenty of time to get your answer. Was that a “revolution” too? To be sure it was: an Anglo-American one.
Save yourself time Dolly: I don’t even look at the stupid links posted on this site. It is day after day of morons trying to say “look someone agrees with how I feel” and who needs that. I use my mind and am confident in Dr. Assad and our army’s ability to kill every son of a bitch who attacks against Syria.
When you come at me with an argument send your best because I am very, very smart (like Dr. Assad). 🙂
January 29th, 2013, 10:29 am
revenire said:
Sabra is a ridiculous cartoon. He will be forgotten soon enough like that ape Burhan Ghalioun.
The West and their Saudi and Qatari allies purchased monkey suits and dressed up some apes and called them the opposition leaders. If they dared to come to Syria either al-Nusra or the Syrian army would kill them. It is probably the one thing the two enemies agree on.
January 29th, 2013, 10:34 am
Dolly Buster said:
Well my video was only 12 seconds, because I respect people’s time.
The fact that some people are rich, is not unfair. The opportunity to become rich is there for everybody else too.
Also: people’s net worth is eligible to go Down as well as up.
That is what we call Vertical Mobility, and it makes the Free Market system fair.
Thus, we are not dealing with a system of Emperor Countries.
Instead, it is the Free World against the few remaining shıtholes like Belarus, Cuba, and Syria al-Asad.
January 29th, 2013, 10:42 am
zoo said:
The snake US ambassador Ford: The regime is loosing, but who knows how long it will take. America is helping a lot.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57566370/u.s-ambassador-to-syria-americans-cant-fix-this-problem/
January 29th, 2013, 10:49 am
revenire said:
Dolly go have a philosophy discussion on the merits of oligarchy with someone else. You’re nothing but a kook.
The US and the UK elite conspired to invade Iraq based on witting lies about WMD. Over one million died. It had nothing to do with bringing freedom to Iraq. Nothing.
These same people are trying to run the same operation in Syria talking about chemical weapons, massacres, etc.
The terrorists have no hope of overthrowing Assad so they beg for NATO to attack Syria. That’s how it works.
January 29th, 2013, 10:52 am
zoo said:
Statement by the President Announcing $155 Million in Additional Humanitarian Assistance for the Syrian People
25/01/2013
..
We’re under no illusions. The days ahead will continue to be very difficult. But what’s clear is that the regime continues to weaken and lose control of territory. The opposition continues to grow stronger. More Syrians are standing up for their dignity. The Assad regime will come to an end. The Syrian people will have their chance to forge their own future. And they will continue to find a partner in the United States of America”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2013/01/25/president-obama-announces-155-million-additional-humanitarian-assi
January 29th, 2013, 10:54 am
revenire said:
And what is funny is without oil and the money it brings the Saudis would be nothing but Wahabi apes in the desert. The West would show as much concern for them as they do Mongolia.
January 29th, 2013, 10:57 am
Dolly Buster said:
As an owner of a savings account in Bank of Moscow, I have to listen to what Dr. Dmitriy Medvyedev says. Let’s hear what he said: http://www.examiner.com/article/medvedev-assad-is-toast
Wow. That blows for the Rafidi Nusayгis.
Does this mean Assad sympathizers will be systematically slaughtered in door-to-door raids?
January 29th, 2013, 11:06 am
ghufran said:
Jawad Al-Sayegh
من يسمع الشيخ معاذ تراوده شكوك كبيرة حول الرجل،اطلق مواقفه المدافعة عن جبهة النصرة، فوضعت الأخيرة على لائحة المنظمات الإرهابية، تعهد بتحسين ظروف اللاجئين السوريين في الأردن، وشكل لهذا الغرض لجان مهمتها التنسيق مع الحكومة الأردنية، ولكن الحقيقة اظهرت ان احوال النازحين زادت سوءا، اعلن أنه سيطالب الأمم المتحدة بوضع مقعد سورية في الأمم المتحدة تحت تصرف الإئتلاف، فكانت النتيجة مئات ملايين الدولارات قدمت من الأمم المتحدة للنظام السوري من اجل مساعدة النازحين، إتهم النظام بالوقوف وراء تفجير السلمية، ولكن حسابه لم يتطابق مع بيدر جبهة النصرة،
the truth is, nobody cares about the little guy in Syria, and that includes regime heads who are only interested in saving their heads and their millions. Moaz may have good intentions but I think he was a disaster for the opposition which is still looking for a leader.
January 29th, 2013, 11:09 am
Tara said:
Zoo,
If I was Ford, I would resign for my inability to help the people I claim to love and respect. Ford knows first hand the brutality of this regime and that without providing quality weapons to end the struggle, hundreds of thousands more will die. No flowers from me to Mr. Ford. He was a disappointment!
January 29th, 2013, 11:10 am
Dolly Buster said:
Look, that is the heart of the issue. Your side claims this is a conspiracy to enslave. And the opposing side says there is no conspiracy, and you are simply some guy defending a tyrant.
So, it is critical that we clear up: Is there a conspiracy by untouchable oligarchs & imperialists, or no.
And that is why I present Irrefutable Evidence that the Western system is suitable for the entire world to enjoy.
Democracy instead of Shi’ism, and Free Market instead of Socialism.
January 29th, 2013, 11:17 am
apple_mini said:
Wow, just watched that George Sabra interview, I’d said I was shocked more than being disappointed. Where did the opposition find this guy? We know people in politics are required to be sneaky by their job. But a not-so-bright one full of blatant lies can only be labeled as Slimy.
Those chosen NC members are jeopardizing the whole country by their fixed mentalities and lousy qualifications.
Both the regime and the opposition are corrupted and impotent. Yet, the opposition lack good vision to save the country from brink of total collapse.
The regime is willing to compromise to reach a peace deal. The opposition is not; The regime is fighting Jihadists. The opposition still embraces them.
Now you get the big picture for what is going on in this hell of civil war.
January 29th, 2013, 11:31 am
revenire said:
Sabra is a puppet. I look forward to the day when this weakling has the courage to come to Syria.
January 29th, 2013, 11:36 am
zoo said:
apple_mini
Sabra is been considered to replace the ‘president’ Moaz al Khatib who publicly sold his soul to al Nusra and has been thrown in the back yard.
Yet there is a serious problem, Sabra is not moslem.
While this may reassure the West, it is clear that the Moslem Brotherhood mafia ( Turquie, Qatar, Egypt) and the Salafi mafia (Saudi Arabia) do not agree and are probably already stopping the funding of the NC.
Is this why France was begging the West to prevent the opposition’s bankrupt by providing 500M?
Will the ‘sole representative of the Syrian people’ ever find a ‘president’ who will replace Bashar al Assad?
January 29th, 2013, 11:46 am
ghufran said:
تحت مسمى “فجر التحرير” قام تجمع الوية المجلس الثوري في المنطقة الشرقية ولواء الفرقان وجبهة النصرة وكتائب آخرى بتحرير مبنى الامن السياسي في مدينة دير الزور والذي يعد معقلا رئيسا للقوات النظامية في المدينة والمحافظة ككل وذلك إثر اشتباكات عنيفة خاضها مقاتلو الكتائب والالوية مع القوات النظامية استمرت لثلاثة ايام
SOHR posted a video about this “victory”, you will notice how young those fighters are and you will have little doubt that they are islamist militia. The plan is to make Dayr Azzour an extension of alqaida in Iraq. Expect a lot of firework in Iraq.
January 29th, 2013, 11:52 am
Dolly Buster said:
See, the Shia thought they could reign free in Iraq, and hang thousands of Sunnis in their savage Shia way of Shia savagery.
But now their country is shaking, and Urine al-Maliki will lose his position within 12 months.
I wonder if Vali Nasr will be writing a new book “Death of Shiism.”
January 29th, 2013, 12:16 pm
zoo said:
Dolly
The Sunnis under Saddam Hossein thought they could reign free in Iraq, and hang and gas thousands of Shias and Kurds in their savage Sunni way of Sunni savagery.
They are continuing with their savagery in other parts of the world.
I wonder if Vali Nasr will be writing a new book “Death of Sunnism.”
January 29th, 2013, 12:21 pm
zoo said:
Another “success” of the Arab spring brokered by KSA and Qatar.
A New Yemeni State Falters Amid Saleh’s Holdouts
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/new-yemeni-state-falters-amid-saleh%E2%80%99s-holdouts
Since his February 2012 election, Yemeni President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi has spent half of his two-year transitional term trying to unfasten his predecessor’s grip on the Yemeni state. The latest obstacle to change is Maj. Gen. Ali Mohsen al-Ahmar who, with the backing of Riyadh, has thrown a monkey wrench into Hadi’s plans to restructure the army.
Sanaa – Former Yemeni president Ali Abdullah Saleh may have left office, but he did not leave power. Saleh continues to live in Yemen and remains the chair of his party, which theoretically controls half of the transitional process.
January 29th, 2013, 12:25 pm
Citizen said:
159. REVENIRE said:
ZZZZZZZZZZZabra is a puppet.
1- انه جبان ، انه يهرب من المعركة الدبلوماسية .
2- يطلب من غير السوريين طلبات بلا حدود مال و سلاح و دعم . هل ستكون بلا مقابل ؟
3- ليس لديه خبرة سياسية . و لو كانت لكان قد حقق النتيجة المنتظرة
4- وجهه يحمل الشر و لا يعرف الابتسامة و ينطبق عليه اطلبوا ( الشر ) تجدوه
5- طبال للغرب يعيد و يكرر عبارات من أسياده الغربيين
6-خائن كونه طلب التدخل العسكري الأجنبي لوطن أجداده !
1 – he’s a coward, he escapes from the diplomatic battle.
2 – Requests from non-Syrian requests unlimited money and weapons and support. is it will be free of charge?
3 – has no political experience. And if it had achieved the expected result
4 – and his face bears evil and does not include the smile / Seek (evil) shall find it.
5 – drummer for the West repeat and repeat phrases from his Western masters
6 – traitor being requested foreign military intervention to his ancestral homeland!
January 29th, 2013, 12:52 pm
Citizen said:
157. DOLLY BUSTER
If so: What are the reasons that make the American citizen says he live in a police state? And why cancer outbreak with economic transitions to other places with capitalist systems? Which you have written is nothing more than gossip
January 29th, 2013, 12:59 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
There is no difference between Shiism and christianism,Shiites believe Ali is WALI of God,Christians believe Jesus is son of God,Alawis believe Ali is God.,In Quraan ,God said they all are infidels.
Sunnis on the other side believe Allahu Akbar,Subhana Allah,he has no son no equal,no partial God(Wali),
Obama provided 155 million dollar to the Syrians as a humanitarian aid,he insisted that Assad must go,He said the rebels are gradually gaining ground,and Assad is becoming weaker,Medvedev said Assad power is shrinking daily, Assad on the contrary he said that he is getting the upper hand,Assad is in delusion,he is miscalculating,
We the opposition are under no illiusion, FSA can not defeat the well equipped Assad army in a few months,without help from outside to neutralize the airforce, however in the long run Assad airforce will get weaker as it loses more planes and more pilots will die,and as the economy deteriorates more,the whole Assad family will die, the Alawi community will suffer a lot,more in the far future than in the short future.
Historically ,( early in the nine century) there was an Alawi tribe in Taloqan in northeast Afganistan,headed by Mohammad Ibn Qassin,AlKhalifa AlMu’tassem,defeated them and imprisoned their leader(840), members of the tribe ran away to settle in Alawi mountain in Syria,as history repeats itself,they will be defeated again.
January 29th, 2013, 1:05 pm
Ghat Al Bird said:
Its reported that Qatar has also become a major player in Israel according to new reports…..
Former Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, whose Hatnuah party suffered a defeat in the polls, revealed that some of its challengers in the legislative elections of 22 January 2013 have been subsidized by Qatar.
Outgoing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has pocketed $ 3 million, while Yisrael Beiteinu, the party headed by Avigdor Liberman, another ex-Foreign Minister, cashed in $ 1.5 million.
In exchange, the right-wing coalition undertook to promote the creation of a Jordanian-Palestinian federation governed by Hamas.
January 29th, 2013, 1:06 pm
Uzair8 said:
Many bodies being pulled from the river. Executed.
Anyone still in the mood to negotiatae/dialogue with this regime?
Justice can’t come soon enough. Come it will.
January 29th, 2013, 1:08 pm
Uzair8 said:
“This event will be written in the books of history”
A fortnight ago saw a flurry of activity with the charity SKT Welfare hosting three high profile fundraisers – entitled Syria: Responding to the Crisis – in the UK as part of their #Stand4Syria campaign.
[…]
A total of £1.5million was eventually raised, easily exceeding the original goal and marking the campaign as a phenomenal success.
[…]
Birmingham was the first of the three events, with donors pledging enough money for 51 ambulances within the first 15 minutes.
[…]
The highlight of the evening came during the auction, when unexpectedly Shaykh al-Yaqoubi stood up and announced he was donating the very cloak he was wearing; a regal black hooded ensemble originally a gift from the King of Morocco. This immediately led to a bidding war between two parties, who eventually paid £25,000 each (which was prompted by Shaykh al-Yaqoubi saying he would donate a second cloak, so both parties had one apiece);…
[…]
Bradford followed, raising an astonishing £700,000 for a hospital, with a local barber pledging his life-savings of £60,000 right from the outset….
Read more:
http://www.sktwelfare.org/Latest-News-and-Articles/SKT-Welfare-Stands-For-Syria-And-Raises-Over-One-and-Half-Million-Pounds
January 29th, 2013, 1:27 pm
Visitor said:
MajedK 167,
We do not need to give this idiot of a con any more attention than he deserves.
He’s obviously a midnoon starry-eyed dreamer hallucinating as his Khomeini-god did on his trip back to Qom that it is time for Persians to rule over Muslims. Just ignore his blurps. He’s irrelevant, nothing, nobody, not even worth reading, fake, con,…. idiot.
We know for a fact that Saddam beat the sh*t out of his Khomeini-god, made him drink from the poison cup to the full and sent him squarely and securely to the bottomless pit of hell.
January 29th, 2013, 1:55 pm
Uzair8 said:
‘Jamil said the pound would regain its value once the Syrian crisis is solved.’
Mr Minister, we already know that. Please tell us what we don’t know.
When officials have know response they just state the obvious and appear to be responding and doing their job. They shouldn’t get away so easily.
Read this last night.
_________________________________
Syrian official says no radical solution to salvage pound’s depreciation
29/01/2013
DAMASCUS, Jan. 28 — A Syrian economy official on Monday warned that there is no radical solution to bring the value of Syrian pound back to its normal level until a political settlement is reached in the country, which has been plagued by 22 months of turmoil.
Minister of Internal Trade and Consumer Protection Qadri Jamil said the recent measures taken by the Central Bank of Syria to ensure the stability of Syrian pound’s exchange rate against U.S. dollar during the crisis “are not good.”
A few months ago, the bank succeeded in decreasing the exchange rate from 106 pounds to 70 pounds against one dollar within a couple of weeks.
However, the pound re-depreciated two months ago and traded at around 95 pounds for one dollar in the black market. The bank introduced several measures, but were unable to bring the rate back to normal levels.
[…]
He indicated that the government is no longer able to monitor markets or to tighten its grip on them as before, due to the raging crisis, adding that 85 percent of the markets are in chaos and disorder, which has fueled the price hike.
Read more:
http://www.nzweek.com/world/syrian-official-says-no-radical-solution-to-salvage-pound-s-depreciation-45926/
January 29th, 2013, 2:23 pm
MarigoldRan said:
In other words, rising chaos.
With each passing month, the regime weakens. No negotiations.
January 29th, 2013, 2:26 pm
Badr said:
“SYRIAN HAMSTER” on January 28th, 2013, 2:47 pm
Glad to have been of help.
January 29th, 2013, 2:37 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
January 29th, 2013, 2:44 pm
revenire said:
Ziad brings the best news of the day:
SYRIAN PERSPECTIVE IS NOW CONFIRMING THE ONSET OF THE LONG-AWAITED ASSAULT ON THE SAUDI SEX PERVERTS, DRUG DEALERS AND TURKISH THIEVES IN IDLIB. Make no mistake, two fully armored and mechanized divisions are on their way to finish the job the Orkin Man started. MI intercepts indicate that rat commanders in Gaziantep are encouraging their luckless cabal of child molesters, rapists and sex offenders to hold out because “reinforcements are coming!”. Oh, really? That’s not going to be easy because newly graduated units of militia are now taking up positions on entryways into Syrian from Turkey. Newly maintenance MiGs and Sukhoi bombers are also going to be deployed in numbers not seen since the 1973 war! Syrian pilots are fully aware of the operational record of the Patriot Anti-Missile system. It’s not even an issue. And just as important, our new drones are being deployed to spot the rodents as they try to scurry in to certain death. If the Patriots fire on our jets when in Syrian airspace, Syria will fire the Eskandar cruise missiles. This is why Mr. Obama is not particularly anxious to get involved in this conflict.
Wael and Aslan promise some good reports of hunting statistics over the next few days.
January 29th, 2013, 3:22 pm
ghufran said:
Nobody today is fooled by the thin claim that the FSA is liberating lands and defeating armies, the FSA is now a cover for alqaeda which dominates rebel forces. FSA officers still exist but they were sidelined a long time ago, and many of them are busy attending conferences , giving interviews and arranging for smuggling missions. when the FSA was formed the slogans and the goals mentioned and broadcasted on TV were NOT the same ones being promoted by the rebels today, nobody then was talking about an islamist state or revenge killing,etc, it is clear today that the FSA founders and their masters lied to the Syrian people,we are now talking about a group of thugs who can not be trusted and a loose organization that was taken over by terrorists, the only way for that dead body,the FSA, to rise again,is to direct their guns at the right enemy: Al-Qaeda.
There is a reason why thugs with guns are drawing Syria’s future today, most regional and international powers do not want a strong Syrian state, all of the other rhetoric is a waste of time.
January 29th, 2013, 3:31 pm
revenire said:
The FSA never existed.
Go to Aleppo and see how many “FSA brigades” there are. What do they do all day? Figure out how to loot the population, fight over stolen good, deal drugs, etc.
FSA was a myth without a central command. From city to city and region to region it was always bands of criminals not an army.
January 29th, 2013, 3:58 pm
ghufran said:
Hammoudeh lecturing people about freedom and history:
قطر تحمل المجتمع الدولي مسؤولية القتل والدمار في سوريا
حمل رئيس وزراء قطر الشيخ حمد بن جاسم بن جبر ال ثاني المجتمع الدولي الثلاثاء مسؤولية الدمار والقتل المستمر في سوريا بسبب خلافه حول هذا الملف، فيما أشار الى نوع من التفاؤل بامكانية التوصل الى حل سواء خلال قمة اميركية روسية محتملة، او في مجلس الامن الدولي.
وقال الشيخ حمد خلال مؤتمر صحافي جمعه بنظيره اليوناني انطونيس ساماراس الذي بدأ مساء الثلاثاء زيارة الى الدوحة أن “جزء من هذا الموضوع او كل هذا الموضوع (السوري) يتحمله المجتمع الدولي لانه بسبب خلافه الحالي اعطى ترخيصا لاستمرار القتل والهدم في سوريا”.
وأوضح ان “هناك مجالا للاتفاق سواء بين روسيا واميركا او في مجلس الامن”، مضيفاً ان “المبعوث الدولي الاخضر الابراهيمي قام بجهد كبير بين البلدين، ومن الواضح ان كل طرف متمسك براي محدد لكن العامل المهم الذي سيحسم المعركة هم المقاومون على الارض والشعب السوري”، مجددا تاكيده على ايمانه بأن “الشعب السوري سينتصر في النهاية”.
وحول اهمال اصدقاء سوريا مسألة تسليح “الجيش السوري الحر” في اجتماعهم الاثنين في باريس، قال المسؤول القطري “نحن من دعاة ان الشعب السوري يجب ان يمكن من حماية نفسه مقابل الابادة التي تحصل والتي تذكرني بالحرب العالمية الثانية وما خلفته من دمار في اوروبا
If it is the Syrian people and resistance fighters who will determine the outcome of this conflict why is Hammoudeh blaming the “international community” for “failing” to end the Syrian war?
In reality, it is the international community that installed sanctions against Syria,not just the regime, provided political help for corrupt and incompetent expat politicians and did nothing to stop Turkey and Qatar from injecting terrorists and violent elements into this conflict.
The “international community” is responsible for keeping the flames of war raging for obvious reasons: helping Israel and hurting Iran, it just happened that when a GCC pimp complains about the IC he means Russia, but when people on the other side criticize the IC they are referring to NATO !!
(I would also like to thank the “doc” in 167 for making it easier for many of us to use the bath room after reading his brilliant piece about religion and the FSA, I am still amazed that the dude managed to graduate from med school)
January 29th, 2013, 4:11 pm
Dolly Buster said:
Ghufran’s criticism of the opposition should be interpreted as his support for the criminal regime.
70,000 people killed by worshippers of Ali ibn Abi Talib.
January 29th, 2013, 4:33 pm
revenire said:
Economic sanctions are war. Those who applied sanctions against the Syrian people are at war with the Syrian people.
January 29th, 2013, 4:45 pm
Syrian said:
A video recorded message from the White House. Obama speaks directly to the Syrian people
http://youtu.be/FloMUEBLRPk
January 29th, 2013, 4:56 pm
Syrialover said:
The Aleppo massacre – eyewitness report from British journalist on the spot says:
– the bodies had apparently been tossed into the canal over a period of time, not all at once. They were exposed when the water level went down.
– people identifying relatives said they had disappeared when they went into government-held areas, possibly seized by army or security at checkpoints
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9834260/Aleppo-executions-79-bodies-pulled-from-Syria-river.html
She also tweeted:
– [the victims’ families] search was interrupted by govt fighter jets. Families fled in panic every time plane came, fearing airstrike
– A local said many were killed by Syrian airforce intelligence – said he has a mole (inside source) there. Marks on wrists suggest tied for days
http://twitter.com/Rsherlock
January 29th, 2013, 5:12 pm
Syrialover said:
And why wouldn’t the vicious Airforce Intelligence service in Aleppo simply tie up detained citizens, shoot them and toss them into a canal?
We know they don’t want to bother feeding them.
Horrifying evidence of starvation of detainees. The body of Abdelmajed al-Damlakhi [aged 20] after he was detained Air Force Intel:
http://twitter.com/zaidbenjamin/status/295788333211209728/photo/1
January 29th, 2013, 5:21 pm
Syrialover said:
If the regime is not responsible for killing and placing dead civilians in the Aleppo canal, why haven’t they taken control of the scene and documented the evidence to support their claims that their opponents did it?
They are that stupid.
January 29th, 2013, 5:26 pm
Uzair8 said:
These massacres and atrocities only reinvigorate the spirit and resolve of the revolution. If ever there were signs of these flagging then such regime crimes only raise the anger and blood temperature. Damn them!
The Syrian people will never forgive the:
Air force intelligence
4th Brigade
Shabeeha
January 29th, 2013, 5:51 pm
revenire said:
How idiotic to believe that after all that has gone on Assad would place dead bodies in a river for the world to find.
Only a few biased idiots would believe such a thing.
January 29th, 2013, 6:10 pm
Syrialover said:
REVENIRE #187
As I said, the regime and its agents ARE that stupid.
They have demonstrated daily their lack of interest in what the world thinks of them burning Syria and its people.
Hafaz and Rifaat al-Assad didn’t care back in the 1980s. And Bashar and Maher al-Assad proudly sustain that “strong and smart” family tradition of collective punishment and showcasing examples to frighten Syrians.
Why reveal you know so little about Syria and the main players?
And why make yourself sound even siller than usual by saying they would not place dead bodies where they would be found.
Try harder or give up.
Your are failing badly at your game here.
January 29th, 2013, 6:34 pm
revenire said:
@188 So you’re saying the government killed a bunch of people and dumped their bodies in the canal knowing they’d be discovered? Why not bury them? Burn them? Chop them into tiny pieces and feed them to FSA cats with fish? Send them into space with the Iranian monkey? Out of all choices they said “why don’t we toss them into this canal and the world will report it”?
It stretches the imagination of all except apes. I hate to believe an ape can type but I see it daily here. Perhaps you will be the next monkey Iran sends into space.
Good luck.
January 29th, 2013, 6:49 pm
revenire said:
The people were murdered by al-Nusra. They asked the terrorists to leave Aleppo. The terrorists killed them.
They won’t be the last murdered by al-Nusra. You all know that.
You can cry to the Heavens that “the regime” did it but those crying that the loudest are the terrorists here.
We know that.
January 29th, 2013, 6:53 pm
Tara said:
Syria crisis: ‘Bodies of executed men’ found in Aleppo
Sherlock said she counted at least 71 bodies in different stages of decomposition, mostly between the ages of 20 and 40, as well as two boys aged about 11 and 15.
….
At least 71 bodies were found by a river in the western Bustan al-Qasr district, UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) said.
Most had their hands tied behind their backs and gunshot wounds to the head.
Hours after the find, UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi reportedly said Syria was “breaking up before everyone’s eyes”.
He told a closed-door session of the UN Security Council that he had no progress to report, adding that the government’s legitimacy had been “seriously, probably irreparably, damaged”, diplomats said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21246738
January 29th, 2013, 7:15 pm
Tara said:
Syrian refugees
The number of Syrian refugees has topped 700,000, according to new UN figures, as the continuing violence prompts an exodus of more than 100,000 people per month.
According to UNHCR figures posted overnight the number of refugees stood at 708,477 as of 28 January. The figures confirm the escalating rate of those fleeing the conflict – the number of refugees broke through the half a million mark as recently as the start of December.
…..
This is the latest a breakdown of the number of Syrian refugees by country:
• Jordan: 171,033 refugees, 51,729 awaiting registration
• Turkey: 163,161 refugees
• Lebanon: 158,973 refugees, 69,963 awaiting registration
• Iraq: 77,415 refugees
• Egypt: 14,375 refugees
• North Africa: 5,417 refugees
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/jan/29/egypt-protests-defy-curfew-live#block-51079e4795cb2b621fa40228
January 29th, 2013, 7:50 pm
Citizen said:
مؤتمر جنيف للمعارضة السورية يدعو لعقد مؤتمر وطني موسع
http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/news/606389/
دعت مسودة البيان الختامي لمؤتمر المعارضة السورية في جنيف يوم الثلاثاء 29 يناير/كانون الثاني الى عقد مؤتمر وطني موسع يضم كل القوى الفاعلة، واعتبرت اتفاقية “جنيف واحد” أساسا صالحا للتنفيذ، داعية الى عقد مؤتمر “جنيف اثنان”.
ودعا المشاركون الى عقد “مؤتمر وطني موسع يتولى اصدار اعلان دستوري تتشكل على أساسه حكومة كاملة الصلاحيات لإدارة المرحلة الانتقالية بدءا من الإيقاف الفوري المتزامن للعنف واستخدام السلاح، وإطلاق سراح كافة المعتقلين السياسيين والمختطفين من مدنيين وعسكريين، وضبط الأمن وإجراء انتخابات تشريعية ورئاسية نزيهة بإشراف دولي”.
واعتبر المشاركون اتفاق جنيف الدولي “أساسا صالحا للتنفيذ” ودعوا الى عقد مؤتمر جنيف الدولي 2 “بحيث يأخذ بعين الاعتبار المستجدات الميدانية ومتطلباتها مع وجود آليات ملزمة بقرار من مجلس الأمن وفق الفصل السادس” من ميثاق الأمم المتحدة الذي يدعو الى تسوية المشاكل والنزاعات في العالم بالطرق السلمية.
معارض سوري: المؤتمر تعرض لضغوط كبيرة
هذا ولفت عضو المكتب التنفيذي لهيئة التنسيق الوطنية المعارضة أكرم الأكرمي في حديث لقناة “روسيا اليوم” من دمشق الى ان “المؤتمر انعقد في ظروف صعبة وتحت ضغوط كبيرة خاصة من قبل فرنسا التي نظمت مؤتمر الائتلاف في باريس بنفس الوقت، كما تم منع 67 شخصية سورية من الحضور في مؤتمر جنيف”.
بدوره نوه القيادي في حزب البعث الديموقراطي محمود جديد في حديث مع “روسيا اليوم” من جنيف بأن “المسودة النهائية تنص على العمل على اقامة عملية سياسية بين المعارضة والسلطة لتنفيذ بيان جنيف الدولي واصدار بيان دستوري تتشكل على اساسه حكومة كاملة الصلاحيات لادارة المرحلة” الراهنة.
فيما اكد استاذ العلاقات الدولية في الجامعة الأمريكية إدموند غريب في حديث مع القناة من واشنطن ان “موقف القوى المجتمعة في جينيف يرسل رسالة واضحة بأنها مستعدة للدخول في حوار مع النظام في سورية وان كان بشكل غير مباشر لان لديهم رؤية واهداف معينة”.
January 29th, 2013, 7:50 pm
Friend in America said:
Zoo,
The assasinations of 65 young Syrian males in the Alleppo neighborhood, the decision of the U.S. President to act, finally getting off his neutral stance, and Mededvef’s public admission that the Assad government is daily losing control of the country means the time for Plan B will soon be at hand. Maybe it is time to visit relatives or friends in Lebanon to see how they are fairing. You have done your job and done it well. You are a good man. But there is going to be revenge. Better not to be standing at a wall blindfolded (as the 65 were) or standing there with the gun in your hand – that is for the wicked and we have already seen too much wickedness. There is no reward for you when the government falls. No one knows when the end time will happen, so move on Plan B sooner than later. Regards
January 29th, 2013, 7:51 pm
revenire said:
Friend In America will you be taking out your revenge on Jabhat al-Nusra or do you just get your kicks coming here and making threats against Zoo and his family?
Any word on when Assad and the army will be beaten? Or is the answer the same as two years ago? “Soon.”
January 29th, 2013, 8:12 pm
apple_mini said:
There has been non stop kidnapping by armed gangsters in government controlled and rebels controlled areas.
Many of them simply disappeared even their families managed to pay the ransom.
There is high possibility that those victims found in that river might be the answer to those disappearances. Those corpses have different stage of decomposition. Someone or some groups has been dumping those bodies systematically for quite a while.
This part is right in rebels’ controlled area. The opposition quickly jumped out and accused the regime is behind it.
Well, after two explosions at the University in regime controlled area, the opposition blamed the regime; when many executed victims found in rebels controlled area, the opposition also blames the regime. How convenient!
January 29th, 2013, 8:30 pm
Observer said:
Well well. I thought the JN militants beheaded people. I was not aware that they execute people with a bullet to the head. I also thought that they advertise their deeds to show their enemies what they are capable of and to point out their adherence to their strict interpretation of the Sharia.
It is possible that rebels did the executions. It is possible simple gangs kidnapping people and asking for ransom did also the executions. It is possible also that the regime did the killing and dumped the body in the river. Water flows. The question is does it flow from regime side to rebel side or vice versa?
Most important: the regime claims it is terrorist elements that did this. My responses are
1. Who failed to protect the people
2. If regime elements did it, will there be an investigation
3. If rebels did it, will the regime bring them to justice
4. If gangs did them, will there be an investigation
5. Will the minister of the interior go the families with his condolences
6. Will the families of the victims come forward the tell us whether ransom money was demanded
All those and many more are a burden of proof on the regime.
Now it is interesting to note that RT and RT Arabic has no news of this. Is it because their correspondent was shot today as a friend told me?
Manar and Mayaddeen have both these news on but without full clip.
There is no control of the regime on anything. The dollar is climbing above a 100 and the country is desperately waiting for the Iranian billion.
Go read Cham Press if you like and rtv.gov.sy the Syrian TV site and read the economic news and the propaganda stories.
Russia and US to meet. The poker game has started and the hand that Russia holds stinks. They thought they had an ace and they ended up holding a dud smelling of garbage called Thouria Alathad.
Justice for Hamza and all his brothers and sisters on criminal at a time in a court of law.
January 29th, 2013, 8:54 pm
zoo said:
194. Friend in America
I have received such advices several time over the last two years. You are wrong it is not Plan “B”, it is plan “F” or “G” already, I can’t keep track anymore.
“B” failed a long time ago together with the ‘not matter of months, but matter of weeks” etc…
I am patient, I’ll wait for plan “Z” to make a move
January 29th, 2013, 9:12 pm
zoo said:
Ibrahimi won’t quit. His goal is to force the UNSC to clarify the ambiguities of the Geneva accord: Would Bashar have to relinquish power or not?
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria-is-being-destroyed-but-i-am-not-a-quitter-brahimi.aspx?pageID=238&nID=40111&NewsCatID=352
“Brahimi indicated the Security Council must lift the ambiguity of Geneva agreement, a formula he has been promoting since his appointment, regarding the transfer of power to a transitional government. “A very critical element is the creation of the transitional government with full executive powers. There is a very clever, creative ambiguity. You have got to say what these powers are. As I understand all the powers of state have to be granted,” said Brahimi.
January 29th, 2013, 9:22 pm
zoo said:
An unnecessary fight against Kurds betrays Syrian struggle
Hassan Hassan
Jan 30, 2013
The Syrian regime has been making significant advances in key neighbourhoods in Homs and Aleppo and in the south in Deraa and Rif Dimashq. Meanwhile, the rebels’ attention seems to be shifting towards unnecessary battles.
The rebels’ coordinated attack on Serekaniye is a harbinger of what awaits the country as the political opposition fails to deal with such divisive issues. The political opposition still has tenuous links to the armed elements on the ground, rather than being able to effectively lead them.
….
“What we are seeing now in Ras Al Ayn is only one scene taken from the movie we are going to see in future Syria,” says Shadi Al Khesh, a UAE-based member of the opposition’s National Coalition
..
Also, Kurdish rights must not be subject to the whims of the political opposition – the “National Convention” signed in Cairo that guaranteed rights for Kurds is now a meaningless document because the newly formed National Coalition abrogated the convention instead of endorsing it
http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/comment/an-unnecessary-fight-against-kurds-betrays-syrian-struggle
January 29th, 2013, 9:27 pm
MarigoldRan said:
The war continues.
At this point, there is no such thing as “Syria” anymore. It does not exist. Kind of like the old Yugoslavia, which doesn’t exist anymore either.
And as usual the regime is massacring people. But at this point most commentators don’t even bring this up, because it’s old news. The regime is EXPECTED to massacre people, kind of like how Revenire is EXPECTED to act like an idiot. It is hardly a surprise.
January 29th, 2013, 9:31 pm
Ghufran said:
Morsi and his drummers are now talking about a conspiracy and mundasseen, sounds familiar? How do you think an MB led government in Syria would respond if faced with similar challenges like the ones Morsi is dealing with.
January 29th, 2013, 9:40 pm
zoo said:
Ibrahim urged the UNSC to update the Geneva accord and act now.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=44034&Cr=syria&Cr1=#.UQiHh6zi95Y
Security Council must act now to address Syria crisis, UN-Arab League envoy stresses
29 January 2013 – The Joint Special Representative of the United Nations and the League of Arab States on the Syrian crisis, Lakhdar Brahimi, today called on the Security Council to take action to advance a solution to the ongoing conflict, warning against any further delay.
“Syria is being destroyed bit by bit. And in destroying Syria, the region is being pushed into a situation that is extremely bad and extremely important for the entire world,” Mr. Brahimi told reporters at UN Headquarters following a closed-door session with the Council.
“That is why I believe the Security Council simply cannot continue to say ‘we are disagreement, therefore, let’s wait for better times’. I think they have got to grapple with this problem now,” he stated.
…. In his comments today, Mr. Brahimi also discussed the Geneva communiqué, which was issued after a meeting of the so-called Action Group for Syria last June and which lays out key steps in a process to end the violence in Syria.
Amongst other items, the communiqué called for the establishment of a transitional governing body, with full executive powers and made up by members of the present Government and the opposition and other groups, as part of agreed principles and guidelines for a Syrian-led political transition.
“I’m now calling on the Security Council to take action because the Geneva declaration that contains, indeed, a lot of elements that would provide for a reasonable solution to the conflict cannot be implemented as it is,” said the envoy. “It needs action from the Council and I have suggested a few ideas to them.”
Also speaking to reporters, Ambassador Masood Khan of Pakistan, which holds the rotating presidency of the Council, said that Council members conveyed a sense of urgency that “something ought to be done and something ought to be done quickly” to stem the crisis in Syria and its consequences for the entire region.
“Council members gave several suggestions for breaking the impasse and trying to find some formula for a political solution,” he added.
In his comments, Mr. Brahimi also reputed reports that he is resigning from his post. “I’m not a quitter. The United Nations has no choice but to remain engaged with this problem, whether I’m there or not. The moment I feel that I am totally useless, I will not stay one minute more.”
January 29th, 2013, 9:41 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood would not have done what the regime has done because they do not control the army.
There is much to be said for splitting the powers of the state to two or three different groups. That way no one group can abuse their powers and destroy the country like the regime has done.
If Morsi tried to do what Assad did, the Egyptian army would turn on him. The difference between Egypt and Syria is that in Egypt the army did not listen to Mubarak when Mubarak ordered them to shoot. In Syria, the army shot.
Syria is a good example of what happens when too much power is concentrated in the hands of one man and his clique.
January 29th, 2013, 9:44 pm
zoo said:
Radical Past: Former Associate Calls Morsi a ‘Master of Disguise’
By Dieter Bednarz and Volkhard Windfuhr in Cairo
http://www.spiegel.de/international/egyptian-president-reportedly-not-as-conciliatory-to-israel-as-he-appears-a-880111-2.html
…
Sharnoubi’s vision of a future Egypt under the Muslim Brotherhood is horrifying. “They will infiltrate all areas of our society: government offices and ministries, schools and universities, as well as the police and the military. They will eliminate their enemies.”
Isn’t he exaggerating?
“Not in the least,” says Sharnoubi, noting that the Brotherhood is already infiltrating the security apparatus. “The Brotherhood will never give up its power without a fight.”
When he leaves the café, Sharnoubi looks toward Tahrir Square, where there is no end to the turmoil. Last Friday, once again, there was rioting and there were clashes between Morsi opponents and the police, and some were killed or injured. For Sharnoubi, this is “merely a small foretaste of an imminent popular uprising.”
January 29th, 2013, 9:52 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Morsi and the MB are undoubtedly power-hungry. But so are the other groups in the country, such as the so-called liberals and the army.
And that’s what democracy, even imperfect ones, are like. Different groups check the power of other groups in the government. If Morsi acts too out of line, he will be overthrown WITHOUT a disastrous civil war, in the same way that Mubarak was.
But Syria failed because all the power of government was concentrated in ONE group. When they behaved catastrophically, there was no one in the country who could stop them. This is why Syria has a civil war, but Egypt did not. This is why Egypt is a more successful country than Syria.
January 29th, 2013, 10:03 pm
Ghufran said:
Marigold,
I agree with the principle of dividing power and I certainly agree that the Egyptian army did not act as a tool of the regime but I am not sure how long this is going to last as Morsi and his agents continue to ikhwanize every institution including the army.
As for the horrible crime of executing 79 men and teenagers in Aleppo, some locals who spoke to the Telegraph are blaming the regime, others have asked about the fact that some victims were in military fatigues, and one noted that there was a fire fight between rebels and the army few days ago, it was also clear that the victims were killed at different times,some had fresh wounds while others showed signs of decomposition that usually takes days to occur, Qwayq river was obviously used as a dumping site for victims of violence in Aleppo especially that it is situated in a battle zone.
January 29th, 2013, 10:05 pm
Syrialover said:
# 189.REVENIRE
Nothing is more of a yawn than a smartass like you who isn’t smart.
If you are going to make yappy, snappy, giggling comments “defending” the regime, who not find out something about the subject?
But we know you like to make it up as you go along and can’t be bothered.
But looking at your comments, I realize you are actually trying to have fun satirizing the Assadists.
Bad taste. They are not a source of amusement for other people.
January 29th, 2013, 10:10 pm
MarigoldRan said:
As I see it, Egypt’s major political groups can be divided into three rough parts:
Morsi and the MB.
The army.
The “liberals” and everyone else
This is of course an over-simplification, but it makes the events in Egypt easier to understand. Currently the army and the MB are cooperating at the expense of the “liberals.” How long will this last? Who knows. But it IS an example of democracy, even if it’s a corrupted version. The fact that two different power groups have to COOPERATE with one another is a good sign for the future.
With regards to Aleppo, both sides dumped bodies into the river. I agree that this is NOT a clean war. But I support the FSA because the regime is worse.
EDIT: @ Syrialover
The basic problem with Revenire is that even if he’s trying to satirize the regime, he isn’t succeeding. The reason is because the regime actually thinks that way. Revenire actually expresses the psychology of the regime. As I’ve said before, the regime is a reflection of Revenire’s empty and vile soul.
Revenire is espousing evil. And that demands a response.
January 29th, 2013, 10:10 pm
Citizen said:
Damascus. Subjected to mortar fire fighters printing press, which printed textbooks. The shelling killed two people. Of a mine explosion burned a bus carrying employees of the company.
Province of Hama. From militants freed the village of Al-Hadid Sheh. Local people with great enthusiasm and warmth met Syrian army units.
The province Idleb foiled attack militants in the central prison. During the battle, the attackers initially terrorists even managed to break into the prison. But defenders seized the initiative and fought back. In the ensuing firefight killed a large number of terrorists.
http://anna-news.info/node/9590
January 29th, 2013, 10:11 pm
zoo said:
After this declaration at the UNSC, Ibrahimi will probably be persona non grata in Syria.
“He also told the council that Syrian President Bashar Assad might be able to cling to power for now, but noted that “the Syrian regime’s legitimacy has been seriously, probably irreparably, damaged.”
January 29th, 2013, 10:13 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Ibrahimi will be banned from Syria because he told the truth. The regime accepts only lies. So of course they will not accept Ibrahimi or his recommendations.
Ibrahimi, however, is right. Albeit late to the fact. Syria is not a nation anymore. The regime can try to pretend otherwise, but this will not do them or their supporters any good because no one else believes in it.
January 29th, 2013, 10:16 pm
Syrialover said:
#209 MARIGOLDRAN
REVENIRE is just a prankster. He’s here only to entertain himself.
January 29th, 2013, 10:23 pm
zoo said:
Syrian Meltdown and Erdogan 2014 ambitions
http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/erdogans-kurdish-issues-8024
…
Syria’s descent into civil war has been enormously costly for Turkey and for Erdogan. Syria marked the end of Turkey’s “zero problems” policy, but more than that revealed the limits of Erdogan’s influence in the Middle East. This contrasted badly with the image of respected deal-maker that Erdogan tried to cultivate.
Erdogan was forced to abandon his early briskness toward Turkey’s traditional security alliance and instead hoped to persuade Obama to get rid of Assad. Help didn’t come and he felt somewhat abandoned, leaving Turkey to deal with Syria on its own.
But he came to see the need to draw closer to NATO and asked for and received Patriot missiles with little domestic protest. Once skeptical of NATO missions and his Western bona fides questioned abroad, Erdogan’s marked change confirmed the value he came to place on the U.S. connection despite our inaction on Syria.
His public plea for more assistance opened a new line of criticism, this time from his brethren in the Islamist media who questioned how Erdogan could be both a partner in NATO intervention in Syria and the voice of Arab democrats. Many also questioned the wisdom of putting all eggs in the Assad-must-go basket, while the political opposition hammered Erdogan for failing to keep Turkey out of the Syrian crossfire, stop the refugee exodus and show some progress.
Post-Assad Problems
Erdogan will initially benefit politically from Assad’s departure no matter how it happens.
He will likely bill himself as a successful democratizer who also acted as a good Muslim sheltering Syrian refugees (something he has indeed done well). But there is also the possibility of greater sectarian violence in a post-Assad Syria, a tenuous Syrian government, a deepening humanitarian crisis with more refugees—this time mostly non-Sunni—and few of the present refugees returning.
In a post-Assad Syria, Erdogan will probably put his weight behind the Sunnis, who his religious base also supports. Turkey could find itself in the uncomfortable position of backing a Muslim Brotherhood government influenced by Saudi or Qatari money and more radical than it would like. This would put it at odds with the U.S. vision of a moderate, inclusive government in which the Kurds havea bigger say.
January 29th, 2013, 10:25 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Of course. And that gives us the right to entertain ourselves at HIS expense. If he wants to troll, that gives us the right to troll him. Which is something that I’ve taken advantage of.
Nonetheless, the fact that he chose to troll on behalf of the regime shows some of his true colors. He could have trolled elsewhere (the Internet is a big place) but the fact that he chose to troll on behalf of the regime shows that he has a stunted and vile soul.
Revenire the moron is actually callous and stupid enough to think that this is just a game. He’s played too much video games, and he doesn’t understand that real people are suffering and dying.
January 29th, 2013, 10:26 pm
revenire said:
I am still laughing at the idea that the SAA dumped bodies in the river. Because the army ran out of bases because the FSA took them over? LOL
It is pretty obvious these dead people were murdered by terrorist pigs who kidnap people for money. We’ve all seen citizens demonstrating to get the FSA to leave the city.
January 29th, 2013, 10:31 pm
MarigoldRan said:
See? Point proven. I like how he goes and immediately proves me right.
Revenire is a retard.
January 29th, 2013, 10:32 pm
Syrialover said:
MARIGOLDRAN #209,
It’s wrong to make a statement of opinion or theory as if it were facts. Very wrong, particularly in the context you just did.
Unless you have first-hand witnesses and forensic information (which you obviously don’t) you should not casually state:
“With regards to Aleppo, both sides dumped bodies into the river.”
You make me angry making that baseless assertion based on whatever came into your head.
For some of us, the situation in Syria is not just a distant war game.
January 29th, 2013, 10:37 pm
revenire said:
218 Ask your friend Edward Dark or any number of the thousands in Aleppo about the ones who rape and murder.
January 29th, 2013, 10:39 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Ghufran thinks both sides dumped bodies into the river, and given how both sides have behaved, I’m inclined to think he’s right. Our positions on the war are not all that different, though unlike Ghufran I do not believe this war will end with a political solution. The regime has to be beat.
However, that is an OPINION. If you want to talk about facts, I’ll admit that facts support NEITHER side’s opinion on the bodies at this moment. We honestly don’t know who did it (or whether the canal was used as a dumping site by BOTH sides). However, given past behavior, there’s a much HIGHER chance that the regime did it than the rebels.
EDIT: @ Revenire
What comes around, goes around.
January 29th, 2013, 10:41 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
at the time Al Dendashi disappeared Revenire showed up.
January 29th, 2013, 10:43 pm
Citizen said:
Saudis protest in Riyadh again, calling for release of prisoners
Saudi protesters have once again taken to the streets in Riyadh, calling for the release of prisoners detained during anti-regime demonstrations.
The demonstrators chanted slogans against the excessive use of force by Saudi forces in quelling anti-regime protests and condemned the Al Saud regime’s suppressive actions against dissidents.
According to Human Rights Watch, the Saudi regime “routinely represses expression critical of the government.”
According to Saudi activists, most of the detained political thinkers are being held by the government without trial or legitimate charges and that they were arrested for merely looking suspicious.
In October, Saudi authorities warned that they would deal “firmly” with protests after hundreds of Saudis gathered outside Tafiya prison, north of the capital, in September to demand the release of their relatives.
Amnesty International has criticized Riyadh over the warning and urged the authorities to “withdraw their threat.” In Saudi Arabia, protests and political gatherings of any kind are prohibited.
Since February 2011, protesters have held demonstrations on an almost regular basis in Saudi Arabia, mainly in Qatif and Awamiyah in Eastern Province.
The demonstrations turned into protests against the Al Saud regime after November 2011 when Saudi security forces killed five protesters and injured many others in the province.
January 29th, 2013, 10:52 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Say what you want about the Saudis, but they’re many times smarter than the regime.
A few people protested, by the Saudis are smart enough not to start a bloody civil war because of it.
Unlike the regime. On a certain level I’m more offended by the regime’s STUPIDITY than anything else. This regime, like Revenire, is DUMB.
January 29th, 2013, 10:54 pm
Citizen said:
Two Patriot complexes put on combat duty in Turkey
http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_01_29/Two-Patriot-complexes-put-on-combat-duty-in-Turkey/
Two NATO’s surface-to-air missile complexes Patriot have been put on combat duty not far from the Syrian border, Reuters reported Tuesday citing German sources.
These two complexes which were delivered from Germany have been deployed near the Turkish city of Kahramanmarash.
In total NATO has sent six Patriot complexes to Turkey – two from the US, two from Germany and two from the Netherlands.
The missile complexes supplied from the Netherlands were out into combat duty on January 26.
The two complexes from the US will be delivered on Wednesday.
In November 2012, Ankara asked NATO to provide anti-aircraft complexes to protect its air space from possible air attacks from the side of Syria.
January 29th, 2013, 10:56 pm
Citizen said:
If you are young, then you will soon be witnessing the collapse of the capitalist imperialist system in the face of the leading countries like the U.S.! not inevitably!
January 29th, 2013, 11:00 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
مطالب أوروبية بإعلان حزب الله اللبناني منظمة إرهابية
المالكي يلوح بالقبضة الحديدية.. ويخير العراقيين بين الفوضى أو الديكتاتورية
وقال رئيس كتلة العراقية في البرلمان سلمان الجميلي في مؤتمر صحافي أمس إن «المعطيات الأولية تؤكد بأن الجيش هو من أطلق النار على المتظاهرين في الفلوجة»، مؤكدا أن «القائد العام للقوات المسلحة نوري المالكي ووزير الدفاع سعدون الدليمي مطالبان باحتجاز أو اعتقال القوة التي كانت قريبة من المظاهرات والتي أطلقت النار على المتظاهرين، إلى أن يستكمل التحقيق في الحادث». وأضاف الجميلي أن «قيادة عمليات الأنبار أكدت بشكل صريح ومسجل، أن الجيش أطلق النار باتجاه المتظاهرين، دون صدور أوامر من القيادات العليا»،
Maliki should be subjected to the same type of court that Saddam was subjected to, and probably will be hanged.
The ship that was stopped in Yemen was Iranian ship
January 29th, 2013, 11:04 pm
revenire said:
Dmitry Medvedev’s interview with the German newspaper Handelsblatt a day AFTER the one with CNN. Odd how this never gets mentioned. 🙂
Mathias Brüggmann: My last question: when will Russia change its stance on Syria?
Dmitry Medvedev: I think the Russian position on Syria is entirely pragmatic. It is this: we do not support Assad, we do not support the opposition, we are in contact with Assad and the opposition. We do have interstate relations, we have economic links and even military links with the incumbent government, but we have never insisted that Assad or anyone else should stay in power. That is an issue for the Syrian people to decide.
I always remind people who for some reason are oblivious of one thing: Syria is a very complicated country, it is not even Libya, although Libya can also be fragmented. Syria has so many different denominations and branches of Islam that if everything were left to chance the country would implode. Can we imagine what will happen if the Sunnis come to power? I think they will start hanging the Alawites, sad though it may sound. This cannot be allowed to happen. Things have to be agreed at the negotiating table, and that includes the future of the country. As for the fate of the leadership, these are secondary matters. We are ready for contacts with everyone, but we categorically object to any party providing arms either for the opposition or for anybody else. This has to stop.
Mathias Brüggmann: Thank you.
January 30th, 2013, 12:13 am
Juergen said:
Reveboy where is your link to the article?
January 30th, 2013, 1:12 am
Juergen said:
https://twitter.com/HomsiAnarchist/status/296462610356920321/photo/1
January 30th, 2013, 1:19 am
revenire said:
Juergy-boy here you go: http://government.ru/eng/docs/22549/
(right at the bottom for the terrorists too lazy to read it all) (lol)
Right from the horse’s mouth. That a good enough source for you?
If you weren’t so lazy you could have found it yourself.
Kind of puts the out of context BS trumpted by Landis et al. in its place. I also read the CNN transcript there and it sure comes across different than how all the media whores wrote about it.
I smell desperation in our enemies. Mr. President give us the order.
January 30th, 2013, 1:31 am
Juergen said:
Reve
I think it is common sense here on this blog to cite the scources for such interviews, in my opinion the original scource would be the best, and I have downloaded the interview from their databases.
http://www.handelsblatt-shop.com/downloads/staerker-werden-oder-auf-den-euro-verzichten-p4469.html
I understand that you trust the official media outlet of the Kremlin, I highly distrust them, btw the official words coming out of our chancellors office arent much more trustworthy, thank God we have good journalists to verify what is true and what is not so true.
I would like to explain something about this newspaper which you cite. HANDELSBLATT is the leading economic magazine in the country, and the focus of this magazine on politics is only when policies would meet economic issues. Brügmann is an expert on economic issues, most articles in the last years cover the Euro crisis. Therefore you can not compare an interview made by CNN and this interview, the outlook of the HANDELSBLATT was merely an economic one, 90% of the questions were polite questions about possible investments and privatisation plans ( that always means big business). Two questions were bolder in their nature, the one questioning his role after Putins term is over, and of course his view how the President is regarded by the people.
Media whores, nice one, I always looked for a word for people working for such government outlets and are the extension of the dictatorship. Thank you I will borrow this one from you.
Reve how about you join the “Volkssturm”, I bet you would be the only soldier dying with the thought of your beloved President.
January 30th, 2013, 2:11 am
MarigoldRan said:
Ouch.
Revenire’s being stupid again.
Why is Revenire arguing with a German (who is most likely posting from Germany) over a publication in a German newspaper?
I guess Revenire enjoys being insulted. In which case, we’re happy to oblige.
January 30th, 2013, 2:17 am
revenire said:
Please, Juergen I have extensive contacts in Germany in the BND going back several decades. I lived in Wiesbaden during my student days. Spare me this childish idiocy.
Medvedev said what he said. Who cares? What idiot – other than the usual ones – believed Russia changed its tune?
Russia, like Dr. Assad, plays chess. The Americans are fools.
January 30th, 2013, 2:28 am
annie said:
Incoherence!
Jan 30
Posted by OFF THE WALL( http://7ee6an.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/incoherence/ )
Coherence of thoughts is illusive. It lies behind the scenery of death, now so common as to fade into the background of long-threatened destruction that has become us. The hearts of our cities, those precious sculptures, carefully crafted over millenniums, with layers spanning centuries next to those that only lived less than a decade, now lie torn by the mad man and his minions. And the madness just would not subside.
For more than forty years, the seeds of destruction were being planted with the zeal of the obsessed. It is a story of madness played one slap at a time, of insults compounded by the ignorance of the bullies, of thefts aggravated by the infinite depravity of the thieves soul, of rapes, of torture, murders, disappearances, and of a foretold signs of the coming catastrophe, ignored as the beautiful and ancient city of Nourias was laid to waste by the barbarians. The silence was deafening even as the bleeding continued for as long as the madman lived.
The barbarians raped the souls of our cities with their demented cheap tasteless portraits. First, it was the madman, then he was joined by his vicious brother, only for the brother to be replaced by the sons, including the fake hero, who was killed by the characteristic recklessness of arrogance, but was nonetheless, declared a martyr and a demi-god. A worst fraud then replaced the fake martyr, it was a pretender to humanity, and the nightmare we now are fighting. The sons may have been legitimate to their unholy parents, but by all means, are illegitimate in time and place.
Fools were those among us who feigned knowledge. The wise ones said the devil is dead. But its essence never died. The crowning of his successor should have been another sign of the impending catastrophe. The essence of the devil never died. It remained active and never dormant, but vibrant in every military post, in torture dungeons around our land, in the secret mass graves scattered in our ancient desert. And the barbarians became more vulgar and evermore greedy as they continued their insults for eleven more years on our civility, our senses, our culture, and our intellects, individually and collectively. Under the series of promises, never made to be kept, lied the constant hum of the catastrophe. Many among us heard it very clearly, but we pretended to believe, perhaps fearing the hum, that the vulgar music of the barbarians will one day become a bit more refined only if we listen longer.
We listened, and the vulgar music turned into blasts that destroyed our homes and killed many of us with deliberate malice when we asked that this half century assault be stopped. What they did to us from that point on will be told in the future for centuries to come. It will be a story of betrayal, of savagery, as well as of heroism that we never knew had existed in us. But the story of our heroic death will be worthy to hear only if told as the conclusion to the story of our cowardliness. Without that, there is no lesson learned, and our death, and the death of our children and grandchildren who are paying the price of our cowardliness will be pointless and in vain.
I stopped counting days. The post-massacre pain of anguish which started very acute ad sharp, then turned into a dull pain as our cities and villages turned into killing fields, had finally settled into a continuous throb of sharp, maddening pain as the massacres became daily and hourly happenstance. A short while ago, it was my University. The place which has more personal connection to my life than it does to most of its graduates. The mayhem outraged us, but our outrage became worst when the thugs tried to appropriate our martyrs. I don’t think they really cared to say that our side was the side who murdered our own children, but more to continue their assault and theft, even of our death at their hands.
Today, it was the river. Residents in in the liberated Bustan Al-Qaser area of Aleppo, pulled more than sixty bodies from the narrow, highly polluted River Quaiq . All were males between the age of 20-40, with a few children, and all were tied and shot in the head execution style. At first, as they did with the University, the thugs hyped that this is a liberated area and therefore, these are victims of the FSA. But early identification, in addition to the close-proximity of the area to regime territory point that at least some of the victims were reported to have been kidnapped by the notorious murderous air-force intelligence.
Others are probably more able to describe the scene of death. But to me, every time I see the photograph of victim, tied and shot, all I can think of is the horrors the barbarians have inflicted on their victims before killing them. You see, their smuggled tapes have finally paid off, but not in the way they thought for I am not horrified any longer, I am beyond that.
Like many Syrians, I am now beyond many other feelings. Nowadays, I no longer get angry at a relative or a former friend when they support the filth called Assad regime, I just accept the fact that they are part of the filth. What I don’t tell them is that anger used to build up and then subside, hate was accumulating in a crescendo parallel to the atrocities of the barbarians, but now, we are beyond both anger and hate, we are even beyond vengeance. We are now obsessed with swearing “Never Again”. Let the world know, Never again. I know it really threatens the barbarians, because it is even sweeter than revenge.
January 30th, 2013, 2:34 am
Juergen said:
I love the wit of the Egyptians!
https://twitter.com/AmirAssaad/status/296403200909660160/photo/1
BTW Morsi is coming to meet Merkel today in Berlin, Merkel has spread that she will ask some tough questions before opening the purse, whatever tough means for her.
January 30th, 2013, 2:36 am
revenire said:
Annie does that piece of incoherent nonsense mean the al-Nusra rats won’t kidnap any more citizens of Aleppo, murder them and then dump their bodies in the river?
Juergen Merkel and Morsi deserve each other.
January 30th, 2013, 2:39 am
Juergen said:
Reve
I couldnt agree more about Merkel and Morsi.
January 30th, 2013, 2:43 am
Juergen said:
Foulath Hadid: Writer and expert on Arab affairs
“Long before the Arab Spring, Foulath Hadid believed people across the Arab world aspired to political freedom – and one day would achieve it. He condemned European imperialism, American hegemony, and autocratic Arab governments equally in denying the Arab people their legitimate aspirations. It was Hadid’s good fortune to live long enough to see average men and women across the region rise up and challenge dictators, vindicating his long-held convictions.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/foulath-hadid-writer-and-expert-on-arab-affairs-8207992.html
January 30th, 2013, 3:07 am
Juergen said:
open letter to President Morsi by Hamed Abdel Samad:
Dear Mr. Mursi, you do not get flowers
Million Egyptians feel after the inauguration of Mohammed Mursi cheated of the Revolution – one of them is the Egyptian-German author Hamed Abdel-Samad. “You have been democratically elected, but a Democrat, you are not,” he wrote in an open letter.
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2Foffener-brief-von-hamed-abdel-samad-an-mohammed-mursi-a-879583.html
January 30th, 2013, 3:21 am
Syrialover said:
Simon Collis, British Ambassador to Iraq has just tweeted:
“Moaz Khatib ready to meet regime reps outside Syria if all prisoners released and all Syrian exiles allowed to renew passports”
https://twitter.com/HMASimonCollis
January 30th, 2013, 5:45 am
Syrialover said:
The shame and selfishness of Syria’s neighbors. A very public stain on the reputation of the Arab world.
“We are proud to say that we Syrians did not build tents to those who knocked on our doors. We let them in.”
http://twitter.com/NMSyria/status/296411754177654784/photo/1
Tweets:
– Let it be known that during the American invasion of Iraq, refugees were welcomed into the homes of their brothers and sisters in Syria
– Let it be known that during the 2006 war in Lebanon, Syrians welcomed Lebanese refugees into their homes with open arms.
– Let it be known that they were welcomed into our homes, not thrown in inhumane refugee camps in the deserts.
– And let it be known that in 2012/2013, the entire Arab world shut the door in the face of Syrians.
Source: http://twitter.com/NMSyria
January 30th, 2013, 6:05 am
Syrialover said:
Assad’s office issues statement denying Asma’s pregnancy report:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/01/29/assads-office-issues-statement-contesting-pregnancy-report/
COMMENT: Meaning she’s probably having triplets by artificial insemination and Bashar isn’t the father – or whatever.
Bashar & co are such committed liars and bizarre deniers of reality anything they say falls into the hoax and joke category.
And with the terrible mess, suffering and crises in Syria does this bit of personal puffery reflect the priorities and obsessions of Bashar and his “advisers”?
January 30th, 2013, 6:35 am
Citizen said:
Revenire ! Why you are arguing with a German ! please do it with american ! 🙂
CNN made its reputation by coverage, from one end of the planet to the other. Yet, what did we really learn in all those years? We learned that, by straining to the point of hernia, a cable network could present news non-stop, 24/7.
The trick of coverage is the smooth transition from anchor in the studio to reporter in the field. The reporter is standing in front of something that vaguely resembles or represents what we imagine the locale contains. A large squat government building, a tower, a marketplace, a river, a skyline.
At some point during the meaningless report, the screen splits and we see both the anchor and the reporter. This yields the impression of two concerned professionals discussing something significant.
Then we’re back to the reporter in the field filling up the whole screen.
The anchor closes with a question or two.
“Denise, have you seen any tanks in the area?”
“No Wolf, not in the last hour. But we have reports from last night of shelling in the village.”
Well, isn’t this marvelous. Wolf is in Atlanta and Denise is in Patagonia. And they’re talking to each other in real time. Therefore, they must be on top of what’s going on.
“Denise, we understand medical help arrived a short time ago.”
“Yes, Wolf. Out in the desert, in tents, surgeons are performing emergency operations on the wounded.”
Well, what else is there to know? They’ve covered it.
In a twist on this performance, Denise might say, “Government officials are cautiously optimistic about repelling the invading force.” We cut to an interview conducted by Denise, in a hotel room, a few hours earlier.
She’s sitting across from a man in a suit. He’s the minister of information for the ruling party.
Denise: Is it true, Dr. Oobladee, that rebels groups in the suburbs have taken over several branch offices of the central bank?
Dr. Oob: We don’t believe that’s accurate. Our soldiers have been providing security for families in the area.
Denise: And their fortifications are secure?
Dr. Oob: They’ve trained for this mission, yes.
Cut back to Denise standing where she was standing before.
“Wolf, as the night wears on, we hear sporadic gunfire from the civic center. It’s a repeat of the last three evenings. The rebels are determined to make a stand and not give up further ground, in this war that enters its sixth month…”
Cut back to the studio in Atlanta.
“Thank you, Denise. We’ll take a break and be back in a minute to discuss the upcoming controversial film, Cold War in a Hat, starring George Clooney.”
http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/29/how-television-news-creates-the-illusion-of-knowledge/
January 30th, 2013, 7:06 am
revenire said:
Ha ha. You’re so right Citizen.
Juergen I didn’t source the Medvedev Handelblatt thing because it is so easy to find with Google in about two seconds AND I doubt we believe what each other posts irrespective of sources. For myself I believe NO story posted by any terrorist-sympathizer unless it is a typical cat up a tree story (90% of them I don’t even look at).
That’s just the way it is. In war the first casualty is truth.
January 30th, 2013, 11:03 am
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