News Round Up (15 June 2008)
Tuesday, July 15th, 2008
Paul Salem cautioned that "having an embassy doesn't mean [that Syria] won't interfere [in Lebanese affairs]… The US has an embassy in Iraq and it occupies Iraq."
Beirut cool on Syria embrace: The National, By Nicholas Blanford
…But an exchange of embassies still leaves numerous other outstanding issues to be resolved. The most pressing demand of anti-Syrian Lebanese politicians is the demarcation of Lebanon’s border with Syria.
The border was drawn up by French military geographers in 1920 and generally follows the peaks of the Anti-Lebanon mountain chain. But its path has never been clearly marked on the ground with border pillars, giving rise to numerous local disputes between Syrian and Lebanese landowners. A report put out by an anti-Syrian advocacy group last year claimed that Syria still occupies at least 460sq km of Lebanese territory along the border….
Haaretz editorial on the meaning of Assad's Embrace by France
….The disdainful attitude shown by Israel with regard to Assad's leadership ability, at the inspiration of the Americans, apparently came to an end, along with the conclusion of George W. Bush's term.
Assad demonstrated control of the situation, and with perfect timing brought about the establishment of a unity government in Lebanon a few days before he was invited to attend the Bastille Day military parade. In the eyes of the Europeans, he is perceived today as a leader who can mediate between them and Iran, who can make decisions and put them into effect. The aim is to get him to lead Syria in a direction that fits both his own interests and those of the West. ….
The price for not having peace with Syria became clear in the Second Lebanon War, and it is likely to become clear in the third and fourth war in the region. An improvement in relations with any of the Arab countries contributes to Israel's security more than any reservoir of weapons that Israel has at its disposal.
Israeli activists push for peace with Syria …. Under the banner "Peace with Syria", members of the Israel-Syria Peace Society held a meeting at the Dan Panorama on Monday evening, only hours after the Syrian president made his remarks in France.
"We need to change the image of Syria as an enemy to one of a neighbor," said Prof. Moshe Maoz, one of the event's keynote speakers. "This is an issue of interests on both sides, and it is in both of our interests to negotiate a peace agreement."
"A peace deal with Syria would have to include the Golan Heights," Liel said. "But we have to understand what we'd be getting in return. The Golan is not just for peace with Syria, the Golan Heights is the key to peace with the Lebanese and the Palestinians, and other Arab states that will take the Arab world away from Iran, and in effect, isolate Iran."
"However," Liel continued, "if we don't make peace with Syria, they will fall deeper and deeper into their relationship with Iran, and with Hizbullah, and with Hamas." The crowd was responsive to all the speakers, and organizers said this was a positive sign. But their real test, one organizer told The Jerusalem Post, was to "get the message to people on the street, this is what we are truly hoping to do."
Robert Fisk: Day of jackals as Paris marks the
The Caliph of Damascus celebrated the overthrow of the French king yesterday. Bashar al-Assad looked quite at home, standing in his pale blue suit, wearing those inevitable Baathist sunglasses, occasionally clapping the precision drill of the French regiments in front of him, some of whom spent decades repressing Arab nations.
The 1st Regiment of Spahis must surely have been of interest. Was it not this same French army which overthrew the first independent Arab government of Syria in 1920, coldly executing the minister of defence every bit as brutally as their predecessors chopped off Louis XVI's head? But Bashar looked every inch the self-confident President of Syria. As well he might.
Who could have imagined, just six months ago, that the man accused of Rafiq Hariri's murder – now hated by ex-president Jacques Chirac – would be standing a few metres from President Sarkozy of France, basking in the warmth of Parisian hospitality. Were there not a few soldiers in the Bastille Day parade who remembered the murder of 58 of their comrades at the French military headquarters in Lebanon in 1983 and that the French, at the time, blamed Bashar's father, Hafez, for his supposed complicity? But there were no end of cruel Arab regimes represented on the podium yesterday.
There was Sarkozy's co-host at the Mediterranean summit, President Hosni Mubarak, whose secret police regularly use electricity on their prisoners and whose prison guards force inmates to rape each other.
And there were the representatives of Algeria, whose policemen used to pump water into their prisoners till they burst; and Tunisia, where about a third of the population are paid spies for the secret police. And Morocco, where journalists are locked up for offending our latest plucky little king; and Israel, whose gentle treatment of all Palestinian prisoners has to be seen to be believed.
No wonder the French flics and "force de renseignement" and the Arab "mukhabarat" and any number of other dark figures littered the pavements around the Place de la Concorde yesterday. No one, it seems, can forget The Day of the Jackal, although tens of thousands of Arabs might have concluded that there were jackals enough on the podium alongside M. Sarkozy.
The French commentariat had bought the presidential line, prison hook and definitely sinker. "A winning gamble," one of Le Figaro's grovelling writers called it. The French admired Bashar's wife, Asma – a woman whose intelligence and elegance far surpass that of Madame La Presidente Carla, whose purple and red outfit matched the uniforms of the Foreign Legionaires. But the French still haven't learned the secret of Syrian foreign policy. Like the visa hunters in Casablanca, the Syrians wait. And wait. And wait. And in the end, there comes, inevitably, an invitation to Bastille Day.
The Syrians Take Paris
By Andrew Lee Butters, Time Magazine
Not so long ago the Syrian First Couple were personae non gratae in Western capitals. But now Syria is back in style…. The invitation to Paris is ostensibly a reward for the the start of indirect peace talks between Syria and Israel (through Turkish mediation.) But it's also recognition that attempts to isolate Syria have failed, and that the West needs Syrian help for resolving some of the biggest problems in the Middle East. For its part, Syria wants to come even further out of the cold. While in Paris, President Assad told French television that in the event of direct talks under American sponsorship, there could be peace between Syria and Israel within two years. So on the Fourth of July 2010, will Bashar be celebrating Independence Day in Washington?….
The Assad regime only wants a package deal, a grand bargain between Syria and Iran on the one hand, and America and Israel on the other, that would settle the cold war for the Middle East. This means that the United States would have to give up once and for all its project for a "new" Middle East, and its penchant for regime change. That might happen on its own in November if Barack Obama becomes president. But a package deal would also have to solve the Iranian nuclear issue, map out the future of post-American Iraq, solve the Syrian-Israeli conflict, the Lebanese-Israeli conflict, and the Palestinian-Israeli conflict all in one go. Would any American president, or any world leader, be able to pull that off in two years? Despite President Assad's rosy prediction, it's hard to imagine him shaking hands in the Rose Garden anytime soon. But at least he'll always have Paris.
[Landis Analysis]
Meanwhile Stratfor, the Texas based "intelligence" service, is putting out more total fantasy. For 6 months now, it has been pushing the notion of a coup in Damascus and that Asef Shawkat, the president's brother-in-law, is in jail or house arrest. He appeared on state TV last month, long after the last Stratfor brief explaining that he was under arrest for trying to overthrow the government with a hundred odd officers in the army and intelligence services. Here is the silly report
Subject: [STRATFOR] Syria: Alleged Coup Plot Leads to Military Reshuffle …
Syria: Alleged Coup Plot Leads to Military Reshuffle
Strategic Forecasting
11 July 2008Summary
A Stratfor source in Syria reported July 11 that the top levels of Syria’s army and intelligence service underwent a reshuffle in the past week. The move came after Maher al-Assad, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s younger brother and head of the Republican Guard, learned that elements within Syria’s security apparatus were plotting a coup d’etat for August, the source said. The reshuffling was to be expected, particularly as Syria prepares for a major shift caused by its talks with Israel……
Comments (18)
Alex said:
So the Lebanese who don’t like or trust Syria realized that having a Syrian embassy in Beirut is nothing special after all…
And Robert Fisk lived to experience the end of another cycle of “international community” plus “Arab moderates” coalition against Syria that went nowhere because Syria can wait and wait …
And the “far left” Haaretz continues to be logical and understanding of Syria’s side of the equation, but the mainstream Jerusalem Post is as arrogant and blind as usual …
At least everyone agrees that Asma el-Assad is the smartest and most elegant of first ladies around the Mediterranean.
July 15th, 2008, 3:30 pm
Akbar Palace said:
So the Lebanese who don’t like or trust Syria realized that having a Syrian embassy in Beirut is nothing special after all…
Alex –
Isn’t that comment a bit disingenuous? Why did it take all these years for Syria to set up an embassy inside Lebanon? Wasn’t it due to the fact that Syria never recognized Lebanon as an independent country? I think a Syrian embassy in Lebanon IS special.
I don’t know much about Asma el-Assad; she’s certainly “easy on the eyes”…
July 15th, 2008, 5:01 pm
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July 15th, 2008, 5:03 pm
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July 15th, 2008, 5:04 pm
Innocent_Criminal said:
Majhool,
can you please, with sugar on top, paste a link with a max of a paragraph regarding your beloved opposition articles. otherwise i will delete them because if we give you an arm you will take the whole body. thanks
July 15th, 2008, 5:23 pm
Atassi said:
Innocent_Criminal
I don’t think you have the right to tell him that. I have seen many LONG article before being posted as a whole.. So DON”T be rude and impose a “BAATHI protocol” in this site and let the blogger post as they wish…
July 15th, 2008, 5:40 pm
Majhool said:
Thank you Atassi, They keep ganging up on me. I found this news update from SHRC to be very important as it explains the charges used by the regime to jail dissidents. All said, will try to keep it short.
July 15th, 2008, 5:49 pm
offended said:
Majhool, I can’t believe my eyes. the governer of Homs, Mr. Iyad Ghazal, recieved the mothers of the detainess in his office and was very civil and courteous with them. I can’t believe he didn’t order to shoot them all at the sight. What was he thinking.
July 15th, 2008, 6:09 pm
Innocent_Criminal said:
Atassi
With all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Long articles like these are often stuck in the spam filter, so you didn’t see the few others posted by majhool earlier in the day. But I do since moderators have to approve them before everyone else can view them. While to your point many post annoying long articles, at least they’re usually just one at a time. Majhool on the other hand tends to bombard (comments, articles, etc.)
Majhool – My deepest apologies for the inconvenience but if you want to post more than one article in the comment section my previous comment still holds.
July 15th, 2008, 6:37 pm
Innocent_Criminal said:
Syrian president is on Dubai TV – interview with Hamdi Qandil
July 15th, 2008, 6:39 pm
Majhool said:
IC,
Got your point, Atassi is referring to the double standard in enforcing the rules. Anyways, I don’t bombard this blog with comments. I barely qualified for
https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=765
You said: so you didn’t see the few others posted by majhool earlier in the
They were not stuck, I am just being blocked/moderated, and those went through since I am using a different IP
Are you a moderator too? Do you have access to IPs? Ya habibi! This blog need to be clear on privacy issues I have kids to worry about.
July 15th, 2008, 6:47 pm
Alex said:
Akbar,
Do you know how many embassies Syria has? … Syria has less than fifty embassies … does that mean that we Syrians have our eyes on Tanzania where no Syrian embassy exists?
Damascus Beirut is closer than Damascus Aleppo … All Arabs (including the Lebanese) are allowed into Syria without a visa … many Lebanese people drive into Syria to have lunch and go back an hour later.
There is not much real need to have an embassy .. but I understand the symbolic significance.
July 15th, 2008, 6:51 pm
kingcrane jr said:
I find Mr. Fisk very amusing: the spin againt the Arab-heads-of-state is interesting, especially when mixed with sarcasm about French-colonialism.
I would suggest that Mr. Fisk uses the same sarcasm when writing about his own country’s colonialist past, such as: how the Brits asked the Australians to support the French claim to have reached Damascus before Faysal’s supporters, the key “argument” to award Damascus to the French rather than to the Arabs (the true ones, not the collaborators).
While he is at it, Mr. Fisk may want to look at how the press in the UK, his homeland, cultivates an anti-Syrian bias that goes beyond the Syrian authorities: it is not Hafez or Bashar Assad that are parias, it is all Syrians and all of Syria that are dismissed with British contempt.
So, Mr. Fisk, go enjoy such fine company as mini-Hariri or Detlev Mehlis and leave us in peace. We Syrians have better things to do. And even those who oppose the current authorities have learned that you are only interested in us as pawns for your machinations.
July 15th, 2008, 7:18 pm
Qifa Nabki said:
Are you listening, all of you American policy analysts?
Syria has its sights on Tanzania!!!!!!!
More sanctions please!!!!!!!!!!
July 15th, 2008, 7:31 pm
Innocent_Criminal said:
Kingcrane,
You obviously never read any of Fisks book, the man criticizes the Brits more than the french. I suggest you check out his very long yet insightful The Great War for Civilization. He shreds the British and the work of their empire to pieces
July 15th, 2008, 7:54 pm
Atassi said:
IC,
Thank you for your response. I hope this “technical SPAM” issue get resolved, I also agree with your notion, No one should be able to Spam this board… Thanks
July 15th, 2008, 9:17 pm
Alex said:
Qifa,
Ya sheikh … walla if it was 2005 or 2006, they would jump on your idea.
July 15th, 2008, 9:25 pm
Qifa Nabki said:
Alex
It’s not still 2005?
Darn.
Never mind, the revolution is eternal.
Sanctions!!
July 15th, 2008, 9:34 pm