News Round Up (1 December 2012)
Posted by Joshua on Sunday, December 2nd, 2012
Al-Qaeda affiliate playing larger role in Syria rebellion
By David Ignatius
Syrian opposition leaders report an alarming growth within their ranks of fighters from Jabhat al-Nusra, an extremist group linked to al-Qaeda.
The Jabhat group now has somewhere between 6,000 and 10,000 fighters, according to officials of an non-governmental organization that represents the more moderate wing of the Free Syrian Army (FSA). They say that the al-Qaeda affiliate now accounts for 7.5 percent to 9 percent of the Free Syrian Army’s total fighters, up sharply from an estimated 3 percent three months ago and 1 percent at the beginning of the year.
The extremist group is growing in part because it has been the most aggressive and successful arm of the rebel force. “From the reports we get from the doctors, most of the injured and dead FSA are Jabhat al-Nusra, due to their courage and [the fact they are] always at the front line,” said a message sent today to the State Department by the moderate Free Syrian Army representatives, warning of the extremists’ rise.
These estimates are very rough, given the scattered and disorganized nature of the opposition. But they are based on detailed reporting from the field by the members’ military councils, which are the closest thing to an organized command structure among the rebels. In reports sent this week to the State Department, the NGO representing the Syrian moderates offered a detailed breakdown of the extremists’ growth:
* In Aleppo, the Jabhat force is reckoned at around 2,000, mostly in the Al-Bab area northeast of the city. This estimate is based partly on reports from a doctor in the area who has treated injured fighters. The total FSA presence in the Aleppo area is about 15,000.
* In Idlib province, west of Aleppo, Jabhat’s ranks number 2,500 to 3,000, or about 10 percent of the total number of FSA fighters there.
* In Deir al-Zor, to the northeast, the extremist group has about 2,000 of the FSA’s total force of 17,000, according to the reports. Among Jabhat al-Nusra’s most spectacular operations were recent seizures of the Al-Ward oil field and a Conoco gas field, the reports said.
* In Damascus, the Jabhat al-Nusra force is somewhere between 750 and 1,000. Another 1,000 fighters are spread around the country in Latakia, in northwest Syria, Homs in the center and Daraa in the south.
The Syrian reports paint a picture of a disorganized rebel force in which the extremists are filling the vacuum caused by the lack of clearly established command and control.
“In some areas, other extreme groups are merging with [Jabhat] al-Nusra, in others many are leaving it because they did not fulfill promises of support,” notes one report sent to the State Department.
In the chaos of the Syrian battlefield, smaller battalions drawn from neighborhoods or small towns are combining forces with larger groups to form brigades, many of them led by extremists. “This means more [mergers] of extreme groups within Jabhat al-Nusra as it becomes more and more franchised,” the report explains. “Their risk is paying off. They are on a high [rate] of growth.”
A message sent earlier this week from the Free Syrian Army representatives touted the new use of anti-aircraft missiles to down a Syrian helicopter: “It’s thrilling to see it [the anti-aircraft weapon] in action finally. The bad news is that it was not through the U.S. but from the regime bases fallen into the hands of the [FSA] battalions. The other bad news is that it’s not under the control or the supervision of the MC [Military Council] commanders.”
“We are feeling the heat, time is closing up, the fall of Assad appears to be in the very near future,” continued this message, sent last Tuesday.
As the rebels gain momentum, the spoils of war apparently are going to the rebel group that captures a particular Syrian army base. This is one factor boosting the rapid growth of Jabhat al-Nusra. Its fighters provide the muscle and weapons and, as a result, explained an official of the NGO that represents the moderate FSA fighters: “They will get all the goodies, reputation and recognition.”
Inside Jabhat al Nusra – the most extreme wing of Syria’s struggle
One of the men behind a series of jihadist attacks inside Syria tells Ruth Sherlock about their battle to overthrow President Assad.
By Ruth Sherlock, Beirut, 02 Dec 2012
…His accounts of the operations conducted by his wing of the Islamist group Jabhat al-Nusra provide an exclusive and terrifying glimpse inside the most extreme wing of the Syrian rebellion – one which many members of the more secular Free Syrian Army loathe, and which may prove to be the West’s worst nightmare.
They also give an insight into the further conflict to which Syria may descend, if or when the Assad regime finally falls….
Syrian rebel films himself shooting 10 prisoners
Reuters
…”I swear to God that we are peaceful,” begs one of the men to the camera, which is being held by the gunman. Cowering, the man gets up to plead with rebels. As he approaches a rebel off-screen, a shot is heard and he returns holding his bloodied arm.
The cameraman then points the camera along the barrel of his Kalashnikov assault rifle as he shoots the men.
“God is great. Jabhat al-Nusra,” he says,… the video said it was filmed in Ras al-Ain…
Syrian opposition edges toward appointing transition PM
By Khaled Yacoub Oweis
CAIRO | Fri Nov 30, 2012
(Reuters) – Syria’s new opposition coalition edged closer on Friday toward choosing a prime minister to lead a transitional government after three days of talks in Cairo that furthered the dominance of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Former Prime Minister Riad Hijab, a longtime apparatchik in President Bashar al-Assad’s Baath Party before he defected in August, is the strongest candidate for the job, delegates said.
Hijab, who is backed by Jordan and Gulf states, is likely to be chosen before or during a gathering in mid-December of the Friends of Syria, according to coalition insiders.
The grouping of dozens of nations had pledged mostly non-military backing for the revolt but is worried by the influence of Islamists in the opposition.
A popular uprising erupted in March 2011 against Assad’s autocratic rule in which 40,000 people have been killed and hundreds of thousands forced to flee the country
Coalition member Louay Safi said the prime minister would be the point man for the coalition with the international community and act as the head of an alternate Cabinet ready to fill the political and security void if Assad falls from power.
Members of the new government cannot be members of the coalition, which numbers 60.
“I think Hijab has the best chance. He has taken big risks to defect and has since come across as a balanced and composed choice,” said coalition member Munther Bakhos, a veteran opposition figure forced to flee Syria during the 1970s, as bloody repression by Assad’s father, late President Hafez al-Assad, intensified, eventually killing many thousands.
Under internal coalition rules reached late into the night, the prime minister will be elected by a simple majority in the coalition, in which the Brotherhood and its allies have more than 50 percent of the seats.
Candidates must have contributed to the 20-month revolt against Assad and not be tainted by corruption, according to internal rules reached at 2 a.m. (midnight GMT).
NEW EXECUTIVE BODY
The coalition earlier on Friday created an executive body, less than a month after the group came into being with Western and Arab support.
The 11-member “political assembly” will be headed by moderate preacher Moaz al-Khatib, the current president of the coalition.
They will include his two vice presidents and the coalition’s secretary general, Qatari-backed businessman Mustafa Sabbagh, who has emerged as one of the most powerful figures in the new structure.
But the delegates failed to agree on the names of the 11 members after a lengthy election procedure and postponed deciding on the issue, delegates said.
Hardball politics have overshadowed the three-day proceedings in Cairo, with the Brotherhood becoming an overwhelmingly powerful kingmaker.
Since the coalition was set up in Qatar earlier this month, the Brotherhood has swiftly assembled a de facto majority bloc, according to insiders keeping track of changes in the membership of the coalition.
The revolt against four decades of rule by Assad and his late father revived the Brotherhood’s fortunes after decades of repression that killed many thousands of its members, and opened more sources of financing for the organization from exiled conservative Syrians.
France, Britain, Turkey and Gulf Arab states have already recognized the coalition as the legitimate representative of the Syrian people. The United States has been more cautious….
Syria rebels say captured missiles downed army aircraft
(AFP) / 2 December 2012
Syrian rebels say a former army missile specialist in their ranks used captured shoulder-launched weapons to down two government aircraft in as many days last month.
Rebel commanders said that the army helicopter shot down on November 27 and the fighter jet shot down the following day were both hit with Russian-made surface-to-air missiles captured from an army base west of Syria’s second city Aleppo in mid-November.
Defence analysts cited by the Western media had said that the aircraft were likely brought down with surface-to-air missiles provided from abroad, including by the Gulf state of Qatar, an outspoken champion of arming the rebels, over the opposition of the United States.
The rebels said the expertise to use the SA-16 Gimlet missiles, which they said they captured from Base 46 along with other heavy weaponry, came from within their own ranks in the form of a former army missile specialist.
‘This is Musa Abu Omar. He shot down both of the aircraft,’ said Abu Abdel Rahman, a leading rebel commander in the town of Darret Ezza, 30 kilometres (20 miles) northwest of Aleppo, as he introduced the fighter to AFP.
‘Both the missiles came from Base 46,’ Abu Omar said. ‘We’ve got enough of them now to bring down the whole Syrian air force,’ he boasted, refusing to give any specific numbers.
Asked where he got his training on the use of the SA-16, a missile most famous for its use by Saddam Hussein’s forces against coalition aircraft during the 1991 Gulf war, Abu Omar said: ‘It was my specialism in the army during my three year service.’
The 27-year-old showed AFP a photograph of himself holding a shoulder-launched missile that he said was one of the two he fired. The picture’s authenticity could not be independently verified.
Abu Omar said instruction was now being given to other rebel fighters.
‘We’ll impose our own no-fly zone without any need from help from foreign governments,’ he added in reference to the repeated refusals of Western governments to heed opposition calls to intervene to close the skies to President Bashar Al Assad’s warplanes as they did in Libya last year….
But there have been contradictory reports about the likely source of the missiles with the Washington Post reporting on Thursday that they were likely part of a consignment of up to 40 supplied from abroad.
Some of the missiles were supplied by Qatar, the newspaper reported, citing two Middle Eastern intelligence officials it did not identify.
‘It should be worrying to everyone,’ one of the officials said. ‘When Assad is finished, terrorists could end up with these, and commercial flights would be at risk.’
Washington has consistently opposed providing SAMs to the rebels for fear they could fall into the wrong hands.
Flow of Arms to Syria Through Iraq Persists, to U.S. Dismay
By MICHAEL R. GORDON, ERIC SCHMITT and TIM ARANGO.
NYTimes December 1, 2012
WASHINGTON — The American effort to stem the flow of Iranian arms to Syria has faltered because of Iraq’s reluctance to inspect aircraft carrying the weapons through its airspace, American officials say.
The shipments have persisted at a critical time for President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, who has come under increasing military pressure from rebel fighters. The air corridor over Iraq has emerged as a main supply route for weapons, including rockets, antitank missiles, rocket-propelled grenade and mortars.
Iran has an enormous stake in Syria, which is its staunchest Arab ally and has also provided a channel for Iran’s support to the Lebanese Islamist movement Hezbollah.
To the disappointment of the Obama administration, American efforts to persuade the Iraqis to randomly inspect the flights have been largely unsuccessful.
US accelerates intervention in Syrian war
RT: 29 November, 2012,
The US government is contemplating significant intervention in the Syria conflict and has discussed employing Patriot Air and Missile Defense Systems in Turkey and directly providing arms to opposition fighters.
In an attempt to defeat Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, government officials told the New York Times that the US might bring its military resources to the region for either intimidation purposes or direct use in Syria.
NATO will likely decide next week whether or not to deploy surface-to-air Patriot missiles in Turkey, which would serve to protect the country from potential Syrian missiles that could contain chemical weapons, as well as intimidate Syrian Air Force pilots from bombing the northern Syria border towns.
The armed rebels currently control much of Northwest Syria along the border of Turkey, making the border a likely conflict zone should Syrian missiles be implemented.
Although State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said the Patriot missile system would not be used beyond the Turkish border, military sources told Israeli news service DEBKAthat all of northern Syria – including Aleppo and Homs – would become controlled by the Turkish-NATO team.
The US has so far hesitated to intervene on the ground in Syria, fearing the risks would be too great for their own soldiers and could worsen the conflict. But 18 months after the start of the civil war, intervention has increasingly entered the US radar.
“The administration has figured out that if they don’t start doing something, the war will be over and they won’t have any influence over the combat forces on the ground,” former Defense Intelligence Agency officer told the New York Times. “They may have some influence with various political groups and factions, but they won’t have influence with the fighters, and the fighters will control the territory.”
The US has so far provided nearly $200 million in humanitarian aid, but has not intervened militarily. But US officials believe the administration is now considering providing arms to the opposition groups. CIA officers located in Turkey have already determined which groups should receive such weapons, but have emphasized the difficulty of preventing them from falling into the wrong hands.
The Obama administration is also preparing to recognize Syria’s new opposition council as the official representation of Syria, likely during a Dec. 12 “Friends of Syria” conference in Morocco which Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will attend, the Associated Press reports. The recognition will likely spur further US involvement in the conflict – if not militarily, then it will at least draw more humanitarian aid. Britain, France and several Arab countries allied with the US have already recognized the council as Syria’s sole representative.
But while the idea of providing arms may be considered, many still believe it to be a bad idea.
“Arms are not a strategy; arms are a tactic,” US Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford said during a conference in Washington. “A military solution is not the best way for Syria. Efforts to win this by conquering one side or the other will simply prolong the violence and actually aggravate an already terrible humanitarian situation. Syria needs a political solution.”
The US government has not made any official announcements that it was considering providing weapons, but the Congressional officials and diplomats told the Times that a decision would likely be made after Obama selects his new national security team.
Syria’s war exposes fault lines of sectarian divisions
Justin Vela, Nov 27, 2012, The National
ANTAKYA, TURKEY // For some Syrian Kurds, clashes between Arab rebels and a Kurdish militia in Syria are not just related to the country’s revolution, but the outcome of deeper societal fissures.
“The sectarian divisions are growing stronger,” said Nassir Al Dean Ehme, a hulking Kurdish refugee who founded Qamishli House, a leaky four-room house in southern Turkey providing temporary accommodation to Syrian refugees and activists.
“We had these sectarian and ethnic divisions in Syria before and now it has deepened. Maybe we were one country on the map but, if we think about the feelings of people, we see many divisions,” said Mr Al Dean Ehme, who named the house after his hometown of Qamishli, the main Kurdish city in Syria.
Are Syria’s rebels about to win?
Syrian rebels have made significant gains in recent weeks as support for Assad shows signs of fraying.
Hugh Macleod and a reporter in Syria – Global Post – November 30, 2012
A man looks out below the shutter of a burnt-out building in the northern city of Lattakia, a stronghold of support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. (Anwar Amro/AFP
LATTAKIA, Syria — With coffins stacking up at the airport in Syria’s Alawite heartland, and funerals now a daily routine for its mountain villagers, support is fraying among the community on which the Syrian regime depends.
“Day by day the military operations are getting harder and harder,” said Abu Haider, 40, a member of the Syrian security forces, near Qerdaha, the home village of President Bashar al-Assad.
“The Alawites will fight to the end to defend President Bashar but are paying a big price. Most of our men are serving in the army or security forces,” he told GlobalPost.
Ali, a 28-year-old Alawite living in Lattakia, the regional capital, said Alawite villages he recently visited had been nearly emptied of men after the regime enforced conscription for any member of the Alawite sect aged between 18 and 50.
Alawites are the minority off-shoot of Shiite Islam to which the president’s family belongs. The conflict in Syria has increasingly become a sectarian war between the Alawites and the Sunni majority rebels…..
“Rebel gains in recent days give them access to weapons that could tip the military balance in their favor in the north,” said Alison Baily, a Middle East analyst at Oxford Analytica, a global analysis and advisory firm. “The regime does not have the manpower to reverse these gains.”
Alongside the capture of another key base in Saraqeb earlier this month, rebels in the north are increasingly able to choke off supply routes for Assad’s troops battling to re-take Aleppo. Despite holding large areas of countryside, the rebels have yet to exert full control over a major city.
“Regime soldiers who joined us recently said some of their units had not been resupplied with food or fuel for weeks,” said Abu Abdu, a fighter with Liwa al Tawheed, a leading Islamist rebel group in Aleppo. “The regime is sending supplies by the airport, so that is what we will destroy next.”
In the remote desert region of Deir Ezzour, home to well-armed tribes that straddle the border with Iraq, rebel fighters also overran the military base at Mayadeen on the Euphrates River, giving them control over most of the river valley, stretching from the regional capital to the border crossing at Al Bou Kamal.
Two of the region’s three oil fields are now in rebel hands, with trucks lining up to buy $5 barrels of the light crude, a smoky but reliable fuel, as winter sends temperatures plummeting and government supplies dwindle to nothing.
Baily said Syria is now facing a de facto partition between tribes in the east, Kurds in the northwest, Islamist rebels in Aleppo and Idlib, and regime loyalists in Damascus and the Alawite heartlands of the west. This leaves the recently united political opposition, based outside Syria, with the challenge of gaining legitimacy inside the country.
“The rebels are in snowball process, strengthening with each base and arms depot they capture,” she said. “As the country fragments, the most likely scenario is that the regime is ground down into a well armed militia.”
In Damascus, Tense Anticipation of Strongest Push Yet by Rebels
By ANNE BARNARD
Published: December 1, 2012
A quiet tension prevailed downtown, but security checkpoints were proliferating and there were reports that President Bashar al-Assad was preparing loyal divisions to defend the city, the capital and heart of his power.
Military analysts warned that it was impossible to know whether a decisive battle for Damascus was beginning, especially as Syrians lost access to the Internet for 53 hours, limiting the flow of information, before it was restored Saturday. But they said that a government fight to defend its core could be the fiercest and most destructive phase yet of the 20-month conflict.
“We’re waiting for the big battle to begin,” said Emile Hokayem, an analyst based in Bahrain for the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
For decades, the Assad family has settled loyal military families, many from its minority Alawite sect, in the western outskirts of Damascus, where the presidential palace sits on a plateau overlooking the city. The current fighting suggested that the government was trying to insulate those areas, along with the city center and airport, from the semicircle of urban sprawl curving from northeast to southwest, where rebels have strengthened their position in recent days, overrunning a string of small bases.
Analysts say that Mr. Assad, knowing that losing Damascus could be a decisive blow, has been conserving his best and most loyal troops and much of his artillery for a battle there.
Jumblatt urges Syria’s Druze to join the revolution
November 29, 2012
Progressive Socialist Party leader MP Walid Jumblatt condemned on Thursday the bombing that targeted the Jaramana suburb of Damascus , Syria on Wednesday, accusing the Syrian regime of president Bashar al Assad of orchestrating it with aim of eliminating the Syrian revolution by stirring sectarian tensions in the country.
Comments (488)
Ghufran said:
Strong words from a Druz religious leader:
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December 2nd, 2012, 12:53 am
Visitor said:
AFP reported recently based on FSA sources that the FSA now possesses enough anti aircraft missiles to shoot down all regime planes. It (the FSA) will establish the NFZ’ by itself with no need for favors from any outside sources.
This means the US has lost the Syrian Revolution and its late intervention is not needed and definitely will receive deaf ears from the FSA especially if the US sets any conditions whatsoever.
Best hope for the US is to present its help unconditionally and free of charge in order for it to gain the trust that it badly lost.
Sorry Mr. Obama. You and your admin are a failure and especially Clinton who screwed up big time by her first and successive announcement urging the criminal to begin so-called reforms.
Do you really think Syrians are so gullible to receive you with open arms after all the screw ups of the last twenty months? Remember that Syria was there almost 10000 years before anyone ever heard of America.
December 2nd, 2012, 1:29 am
ALI said:
MarigoldRan :
“No, Assad massacred 20000 people and set up the seeds for a greater and more destructive war. ”
There’s no single documented evidence of this claim, I could claim the same and it’s my word against your word. All these imaginary stories don’t belong to reality most of these narrators are MB memebrs so I can’t see them as a credible source.
“If a country cares only for its wealthy, the country will head to disaster.”
Well said, I could not agree more.
Unfortunately, the Syrian regime didn’t care about countryside and rural areas even for his own people. Please take a ride through the Alawi mountains and see how back-warded are these towns(deya3). This is a stark evidence that Alawis didn’t suck the resources of the countries to their own benefits.
PS: If you really want to take the drive across these towns, I’d recommend to get a local tour guide or at least put many posters of Hafiz and a long antenna on top of your car, otherwise Shebiha of elkalb (the dog) Hilal Assad would confiscate your car and maybe hurt you.
December 2nd, 2012, 1:43 am
ALI said:
With US or without US
with NATO or without NATO
With anti aircraft missiles or without anti aircraft missiles
Bashar is staying staying staying, till we decided it’s safe for us to let him go.
@ Visitor
“Do you really think Syrians are so gullible to receive you with open arms after all the screw ups of the last twenty months? Remember that Syria was there almost 10000 years before anyone ever heard of America.”
Nicely said, well done.
December 2nd, 2012, 1:45 am
ALI said:
Lak el3ama fi 3yonhen el3ama, see how your promised “revolution” deals with the respected officers of the Arabic Syrian Army, really tfo 3lyken.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvjeok_yyyy-yyy-yyyy-yyyyy-yyyyyy-yyy-yyyy-yyyy-yyyyyy-yyyyyyyy_news
December 2nd, 2012, 1:55 am
Visitor said:
You idiot Ali Baba you think can get away with denying well documented facts. Who do you think you are you little brat sob?
Your idiot Bashar’s head will be trampled upon like dirt and I will be the first to do the honors and the grave of his bastard hafiz will be turned to a toilet for all of Syria to piss upon.
You want documents you stupid sob? They are everywhere. Shut the f**k up next and know who you are dealing with. You think we are a bunch of idiots here like you and your hooligan delinquent dad sob?
Here’s Hama 1982 and from the mouthpiece of hafiz ????? himself,
http://middleeastvoices.voanews.com/2012/02/syrias-1982-hama-massacre-recalled-lesson-for-assad-today/
December 2nd, 2012, 1:59 am
ALI said:
I did not deny the Hama operation but surely I question the incorrect narration by MB. MB started by murdering civilians (all the family members of Baath party city council) in Hama and the army charged in and did what they have to do as a response to the Mayday call from civilians inside Hama who were facing fearful times with MB.
After eliminating the MB the country has lived in prosper and everybody was happy till another round orchestrated by MB broke out 20 months ago
I highly doubt that you will be able to urine oh Hafiz’ grave, I think it’s one of your wet dreams. and don’t you ever insult Hafiz in my presence,got that?
December 2nd, 2012, 2:13 am
Visitor said:
” and don’t you ever insult Hafiz in my presence,got that?”
And what are you going to do you idiot little brat sob?
Hafiz is an idiot, ???? ???? ???? just like you and your delinquent hooligan dad!
Is that good enough in your presence? If not then come back for more or shut up.
December 2nd, 2012, 2:27 am
ALI said:
Lak ya 7aqeer you still talking about your master, if you just were in Syria lak akkk bedeken 7yriiih ma heek. lak bedi 3almak meen m3alamk lak 7eewan
Forgive me ya Hafiz, this idiot is out of my reach.
December 2nd, 2012, 2:44 am
Johannes de Silentio said:
Walid Jumblatt has to be winner of any Ugly Man contest in the Middle East.
http://www.ain-zhalta.com/images/picrelwalidjoumblat.jpg
December 2nd, 2012, 2:44 am
SYR.EXPAT said:
Anticipating that the Internet will be cut, the Syrian opposition acquired many Internet systems. So Batta can cut the Internet all he wants. All that is going to get him is the wrath of his supporters and the people who have not yet joined the revolution.
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http://www.facebook.com/Syrian.Revolution?fref=pb
December 2nd, 2012, 2:45 am
Johannes de Silentio said:
2. VATTIE
“Sorry Mr. Obama. You and your admin are a failure”
I’m sure the President, after his victory at the ballot box, is closeted with his key advisers, poring over your comments and drafting a contrite apology, which should be Fed-Exed to you very soon.
In the meantime, VATTIE, why don’t you go back behind the barn and jack off?
December 2nd, 2012, 2:52 am
Visitor said:
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December 2nd, 2012, 3:12 am
ALI said:
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December 2nd, 2012, 3:33 am
Visitor said:
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December 2nd, 2012, 3:38 am
Altair said:
Visitor in #123 to my post #106 of the previous thread
No, it doesn’t address the question. It just mentions a meeting of Jimmy Carter and Hafiz. What is needed is documentation of US policy and Syrian cooperation with it during the 70s, from Black September to the 1976 intervention in Lebanon, an intervention that was entirely out of synch with the stated goals of the Baath, Arab nationalist position of Hafiz at the time.
It would be equivalent to Bashar attacking Hizbullah in Lebanon in exchange for a guarantee of staying in power. Hafiz attacked his own allies in 1976. Why?
December 2nd, 2012, 4:20 am
Altair said:
@Majedkhaldoun #111 of the previous (presumably in response to mine 106?):
Precisely what I want to say and what I’ve said in a previous post some months ago. Syria is already a truncated state. It’s already been partitioned between Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine. That would be a real country.
Partition it more and you get nothing but more trouble, and weak ineffective states. The bases of all this partition was sectarianism, whether the sectarianism of the Maronites in Lebanon, who wanted a viable Christian state, to that of the Zionists who, not even from the region managed to create a “Jewish nationality”. Basically it’s just sectarianism though.
All the while, they got support of “secular” countries to do all this. Oh..the hypocrisy never stops. France, the champion of secularism, promoted sectarianism big-time in Syria. The US talks up a storm about democracy and promotes nearly every tinpot dictator in the region (it’s readjusting this policy these days, but most of the dictators remain).
It has to all be rejected..all of it. Zionism, Lebanism (or whatever they call it..Phalangism?), Alawitism, Sunnism (or Islamism or salafism, again whatever they call it). It may look impossible now, but a principle is a principle, and we need to take principled stands, not whatever seems to serve a short-term interest.
Any further break-up of Syria would create countries with the economic and political clout of Liechtenstein or Luxembourg, or Belgium if they’re lucky. I mean, even the EU is subservient to the US. How would a broken up Syria serve any useful purpose, other than for outsiders to manipulate whatever remains?
Whoever committed crimes, focus on their crimes and hold them personally responsible, not their entire sect. Truth and reconciliation. It will be difficult, and it will require lots of patience. But the alternative is horrible.
December 2nd, 2012, 4:57 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
As said by ALTAIR the criminal president of Syria Mr. Bashar Al Qaeda could have been a part of the Great Mafia Ruling The World, but he has been exposed by his mistakes and now nobody in the West can defend him in public. Although I also believe there are many who still prefer Assad to any other sollution (US and Israel mainly).
The fact that Assad acted so confident, that his wife was promoted to be the ugly sister of Rania, and many other clues could only be explained by two reasons:
1- Assad trusts in the permanent support of the great powers.
2- Assad is crazy and ignorant and Vogue too.
December 2nd, 2012, 5:59 am
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Officer, or Son of big Sh.t officer Ali
https://7ee6an.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/stories-from-hama-memories-of-painter-khaled-al-khani-part-1/
https://7ee6an.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/stories-from-hama-memories-of-painter-khaled-al-khani-part-2/
This is the legacy of your FATHERS…and their criminal Assad Clan. The legacy of your generation and their Assad mafia clan is even worst. your ugly sectarian language says it all. People like you will take everything we love down in flames so that these insects called assads continue this ugly family mafia sectarian rule. You have learned nothing from the blood that your assad has shed. You have learned nothing, and you will learn nothing…..
December 2nd, 2012, 6:40 am
majedkhaldoun said:
The battle arround Damascus will continue,isolating Assad troops in Deraa area,and they have to surrender,the battle for Damascus itself has to wait till then.
The airport will be paralized,Bashar is watching his military power geting so weak,losing base after base,he will be under seige for three months then he will quit and flee.
Unfortunately,foreign military intervention is strong possibility. The UNSC may autherize peace keeping force to prevent Alawis massacre.
December 2nd, 2012, 7:10 am
Observer said:
First Ghufran
He writes a piece that remains without a source about the quiet preparation of the coastal areas for an Alawite state including Latakia and Tartous and with the help of the Russians who are supplying him with heavy weapons and advisors to withdraw there.
I will not copy and paste the news; but I would like to know where is the source so that I can read the whole article.
If he is doing that then it shows that he cares about the Alawite community which is interesting.
It also may prevent a genocide of the Alawite community when the regime falls, so I do understand the logic.
Having said that I would like to point out that the very idea of thinking about this scenario indicates
1. The regime is seriously considering losing power
2. The regime has conceded it cannot roll back the rebellion
Now realistically speaking
1. Who is going to recognize the entity? Russia and China? Certainly Israel will as it never misses an opportunity to divide. Iraq perhaps? Iran perhaps? and if so it will end its claim to leading any Islamic movement in the Sunni world as it has being trying to do since 1979.
2. How viable is the state without billions from Russia? What about a naval blockade if it were to happen, will the Iranian navy come to the rescue and if so leave the shore of the strait of Hormuz?
I am just trying to follow the logic.
So please Ghufran tell me where did you read this and for all others what do you think?
Now to ALI
Here is what he wrote
” Using chemical weapons is very dangerous but could be the last resort to defend the existence of minorities. Assad will only spray the countryside of Damascus with type 3 (which has the lowest impact but most contained effect) if needed.
The possibility of full-scale type 1 chemical attack on the whole Damascus is quite rare. It’ll only happen, God forbid, if we somehow lose Damascus and fallback to the minorities coastal state (which is getting developed as we speak). Tarous’ city council has approved the development work of 6000 units in between Tartous and Lattakia.
I say things are going to an end very soon, as I was assured that we will be spending summer holidays in Syria like old days between Ya’four, Bloudan and Lattakia. ”
First did anyone hear of the Tartous city council approving the construction of units of housing? If so it means people are rushing to buy places and my understanding is that it is people from all over Syria wishing to go and live in the quiet part of Syria. Or is it exclusively for the Alawite community?
Second as I understand the situation, it seems that when the Prethident assumed the role of commander in chief and conducted military operations he lost so many battles and so many bases that he is being deposed so that explains the posts by ALI regarding a council of high ranking officers meeting to make battle plans.
Third apparently this military council has shut the internet to communicate with each other in more secure ways, like by courier but this pure speculation on my part.
Fourth the idea of using chemical weapons is on the table according to ALI and will be used to protect the minorities therefore my conclusion is that they are fearful of a genocide. They also have become so dehumanized that they really do not have any idea of how criminal they have become. It is exactly like the Nazis who called the Russians and eastern European population “subhuman” unter mensh if my spelling is correct.
Fifth the drunken state of power that he and the regime is in cannot fathom any consequence to such thinking and actions: they think that they will have immunity from this and they really do not understand that for generations they will be hunted down and branded as criminals. To this day, the Germans are incredibly careful about how they are perceived lest someone thinks that they are reverting to their racist past.
Visitor, my advice to you is to just let him talk and let him tell us of what happened in the 80’s and what has happened in 67 and in 73 and in Lebanon and what happened when Maher shot Asef and what happened when Rustam was in Lebanon and how did some of the high ranking officers commit suicide with “three” bullets to the head and how the Prethident brought the internet and ATM machines to Somaria Alathad the most backward country after Zimbabwe.
By the way did you know that Mugabe won the Lotto when it started in his country?
Justice for Hamza and Syrian Hamster for President
Cheers
December 2nd, 2012, 7:57 am
Observer said:
This from the Guardian today
“The New York Times reported that western intelligence officials had spotted new signs of activity around Syrian military sites where chemical weapons are stored. A senior US official was quoted as saying: “[T]hey’re doing some things that suggest they intend to use the weapons. It’s not just moving stuff around. These are different kind of activities.”
So ALI may be right about using chemical weapons.
December 2nd, 2012, 8:11 am
majedkhaldoun said:
The use of chemical weapons will justify foreign military intervention, Is Bashar as crazy as ALI?
December 2nd, 2012, 9:15 am
Observer said:
Yes he is crazy and drunk with power and blinded by hate and sectarian thinking and I do not think there will be foreign intervention immediately but there will be significantly more help for the rebels and they will then do the job
ALI is not crazy he is just drunk with a vision of absolute power that the father gave the community of supporters.
Delusion is another trait that we see in those with absolutely corrupted power. Remember the bunker where Hitler was conducting fictitious battles with armies that were only real in his head.
Delusion of power has led regime to refuse any compromise including proposals from the Russians themselves.
Again I start the day with the pro regime sites and they are all over the map about how bad the rebels are. This is not the song and dog and pony show of a winning camp.
I do hope they withdraw to an enclave where they are safe. They can have an economy building ugly busts of the “eternal leader” and awful portraits of Ray Ban glasses on the faces of the most backward family Syria has ever experienced in its modern history. Trafficking in various shady goods and persons and money laundering and an economy a la Libnan will be the basis of the enclave with massive Iranian and Russian support.
Good and safe passage and good riddance.
Justice for Hamza and Syrian Hamster for President
Cheers
December 2nd, 2012, 9:45 am
Citizen said:
Media: Vice-President of Syria fled the country and joined the opposition
See original material http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/213611
December 2nd, 2012, 10:26 am
Ghufran said:
“The first attack for which Jabhat al-Nusra claimed responsibility came on Jan 6 this year – 10 months after the first anti-Assad protests began – when a suicide bomber blew up buses in the central Damascus district of Al-Midan that were carrying riot police to an anti-government protest. More than 26 people, mostly civilians, were killed”
The article lists a number of suicide bombings that were done by the terrorist group- Jabhat Alnusra which many of you,the FSA and the SNC lied about and accused the regime of doing, now you are stuck with those animals who will not listen to opposition leaders today and will not listen to any future government. Suicide bombers and Islamist terrorists were used in every conflict especially in Afghanistan and Iraq, they terrorized the “enemy” but also terrorized and killed everybody else, this phenomenon poses a bigger danger to Muslim countries, and the West, than any other force, it makes a lot of sense to confront those thugs now instead of waiting when it is harder to remove this cancer. If the Syrian rebels and the regime,or some elements in both, have the slightest concern about Syria’s future,they should stop killing each other, form a transitional ruling body, remove Bashar and direct resources to rebuild Syria and get rid of foreign fighters and terrorists.
Read the whole article , it it worth few minutes of your time.
December 2nd, 2012, 10:30 am
Ghufran said:
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???? ?????? ??? “??? ???? ????????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ??? ????? ??????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???????? ?????? ????????? ????????? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ??????”? ?????? ?? “????????? ???? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ?? ??? ?????????? ???????? ??? ????????? ????? ?????? ?????? ????????? ??????? ????? ?????????”.
????? ?????? ?? “??????? ?????? ???????? ????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ????????? ??? ?????”? ???? “?? ????? ????? ??? ??? ??? ?? ??? ??? ??? ????? ????????? ????? ???? ?? ????? ?? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ?????”? ???? ??? ?? “?????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ????? ?????? ????? ??????? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ????????”.
Hariri and his thugs want the exclusive right to speak on behalf of Lebanon’s Sunnis , many Lebanese resent Saado’s corrupt and dirty team’s means and ways , it is not a coincidence that the term ” Sunni” is heard every 10 seconds in every statement that comes from the mouth of any of Hariri’s thugs, they can only thrive when the country is divided along sectarian lines.
December 2nd, 2012, 10:47 am
Citizen said:
@26-
Do you think that Jabhat al-Nusra has sovereign decision? What do you think to ask Mrs. Clinton about it ? There is a cost has been calculated using Jabhat al-Nusra to destroy Syria and were approved by the International Center for the spread of democracy (the Pentagon)
The danger is directed against the region geographicaly to protect the interests of the West and when it deviates from , whole the world will start the war on the terror!
The Syrians Whew promised their country after a long absence visited, bringing with them gifts of meat choppers!
Cheers
December 2nd, 2012, 11:13 am
Ghufran said:
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The site follow the steps of another site , Askalsair, that changed camps after the attack on Aleppo.
December 2nd, 2012, 11:23 am
Ghat Al Bird said:
The intensity of the comments on SC reflect oft times views that are surprising.
Whats surprising too is that SC never manages to include commentaries from “non” Western nations, such as the one by David Ignatius.
The above one about Al Queda in Syria is suggestive of an individual who is on the inside of the action so to speak and authoritatively exposes his sympathies.
Will this madness never end?
December 2nd, 2012, 11:29 am
Citizen said:
SYRIA-large war.USA # Russia = opponents.
December 2nd, 2012, 11:29 am
zoo said:
It is clear that the desperate militias have made a pact with the devil, Al Qaeeda and islamists extremists, to subdue the country, as alone, they would have been brought to their knees and obliged to negotiate a long time ago.
Sooner or later, they’ll pay a heavy price for that cowardly decision.
December 2nd, 2012, 11:53 am
Citizen said:
“Free Syrian Army” (FSA) said that the concentration of forces around Damascus. According to opposition sources, the metropolitan area is deployed several thousand fighters from the southern province of Deraa and the large group from the province of Idleb.
To the north of Damascus, in the Al-Kalamun, a new battle “team” of about 1,000 people. Total number of its forces near Damascus fighters estimated to be approximately 40,000.
After attempts Brigade “Jund Allah” take the road to Damascus International Airport on November 29 sharply intensified fighting in all the suburbs of the Syrian capital. Government forces responded with powerful blows to the gang, “Jund Allah” in the modes and firing positions of militants in 3erbine, Hamuria, the Duma and the Eastern District villages Ghuta.
November 30 fighting were, with few exceptions, all the outskirts of the city. Intense fighting took place in the Duma, and 3erbine Hamuria. According to some reports, 3erbine headquarters is located so-called “war council” FSA in Damascus. Militants daily shelling positions of government troops here with mortars and grenade launchers. In the Duma on November 30 was hit over the cluster of militants in the area of Al-Karama.
Militants FSA reported the destruction of “MiG” Syrian Air Force to the north-east of Damascus, near the town of Al-Doumeira.
The most violent clashes taking south of Damascus. After the attacks of militants in the airport Syrian army bombed rebels in neighboring modes. The morning of 30 November here launched an operation against the FSA position militants were rocket artillery strike, then troops entered the gang-controlled neighborhoods.
Just as in the modes, the fighting was all day in the next Darayya. It was organized by the most powerful series of air strikes in recent days – the positions of militants fired more than 10 rockets and then the troops also entered the rebellious neighborhoods. The opposition said the “killing of five civilians” or impact of government forces. Fighting in Darayya continued into the night of December 1.
December 2nd, 2012, 11:53 am
zoo said:
#27 Ghufran
It is time to recognize that Hariri Jr is a shame for Lebanon and he should ask for a french citizenship ( if he does not have it already) and never return to Lebanon. If he dares return, wich I doubt, he has no chance to survive his treason.
He joins the club in France of all these Sunni millionaires traitors to their nation, Khaddam ad others.
December 2nd, 2012, 12:00 pm
zoo said:
25. Citizen said:
“Media: Vice-President of Syria fled the country and joined the opposition
That was a news on 12 August 2012 from the “RELIABLE”
Al Arabya
Translation of the video
“Syrian Vice President Farouk al-Shara fled the country. Information about this today issued a broadcaster “Al Arabiya”. Confirm it from independent sources is impossible.”
December 2nd, 2012, 12:09 pm
zoo said:
EgyptAir to resume flights to Syria (Damascus and Aleppo)
REUTERS December 3, 2012 12:23am
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/284704/news/world/egyptair-to-resume-flights-to-syria
CAIRO – EgyptAir will resume flights to Damascus and Aleppo airports on Monday after a three-day halt due to a deterioration in the security situation, the head of EgyptAir said on Sunday.
“The decision comes after coordination with the Egyptian embassy in Damascus and the EgyptAir office in Syria and making sure the security conditions are stable at the moment in Syria, especially on the roads leading to Damascus and Aleppo airports,” Roshdy Zakaria in a statement.
EgyptAir was one of several foreign airlines to suspend flights on Friday, when Syrian air force jets bombarded rebel targets close to Damascus airport.
EgyptAir suspended the flights after receiving a note from its office in Damascus requesting their cancelation until conditions had improved on roads leading to the airport. — Reuters
December 2nd, 2012, 12:22 pm
Citizen said:
Whats surprising too is that SC never manages to include commentaries from “non” Western nations
Americans seem to have a world of their own . Moreover, many Americans seem to harbour a certain subconscious conviction that non-Americans should unreservedly adopt, or subject themselves to, American values.
This condescending perception, often encapsulated in the Yankee slogan, “The American way,” is a natural symptom of American cultural imperialism and megalomania.
In a nutshell, free speech, though not an absolute value in itself, is a positive value and ought to be protected and defended; but hate, malicious and vulgar speech is a negative value that ultimately leads to bloodshed and war.
December 2nd, 2012, 12:26 pm
Visitor said:
It has become known that Goofie sees no need to link his sources from which he freely copies and pastes.
But here’s the link for his comment @ 27,
http://www.almanar.com.lb/wap/edetails.php?cid=21&eid=362076
So, it is none but the rag tag al-Manar mouthpiece of Hizbistan whose thugs are falling daily in the 7Homs-Qusayr region while killing Syrians.
I went further and tried to find out who this ???? ??????? ???????? are, who are so eager to abide by so-called Lebanese constitution. And here’s what I found!
http://www.rnewsa.net/(S(b0dh35vwml2kr5vbcqoote21))/newsDet.aspx?news_id=12014
Read the last link in full.
Goofie,
You are not a Palestinian. You are a pathetic, sectarian Alawite hiding in sheep’s clothes. Come off it and behave like the real sectarian you are.
December 2nd, 2012, 12:26 pm
Dolly Buster said:
What’s wrong with Al-Qa’idah, what have they done in the Levant exactly. Blew up some secret police? That is welcome development.
I applaud the people of Jihaad for waging war on the Taaghut bashar el asad.
Hopefully Alawite sickos will reach for chemical weapons, so Obama will finally crush them and their allies.
December 2nd, 2012, 12:29 pm
Ghufran said:
Out of 61 victims that were killed in Darayya from November 18-25 only 4 were women, names of victims were published on Darayya opposition web sites including enab baladi.
Most of Darayya’s residents have left, the city is like a desert, I think the army will eventually enter it and reside over the rubles, this situation is nothing but suicidal, I do not see how anybody can defend this insanity.
I see no need to respond to posters that I called “toilets” , that defeats common sense, feel free to examine everything I write,I have no problem with that, my sources go from regime media, Iran media, hizbullah , to the other extreme including aljazeera, alarabiya, almundassah , Askalsair,etc, this site will be served well if you do the same, nobody owns the truth.
December 2nd, 2012, 12:31 pm
Syrialover said:
VISITOR #6 and HAMSTER #19 thank you for those eyewitness accounts of what happened in Hama in 1982.
Anyone here who has not read this stuff needs to. It explains what is happening today, what little Bashar and Maher Assad grew up hearing celebrated, boasted and laughed about.
What’s described in those accounts is an insight into the sordid, degenerate, family culture and traditions those boys and their associates have proudly nurtured and perpetuated.
The truth about Hama has been silenced by terror in Syria and hidden from the world all these years. But the barriers of fear, lies and secrecy are now being smashed.
Former army men and others “serving” Hafez and Rifaat Assad will speak up, there will be documents uncovered and forensic examination of mass graves will paint the full picture. Some expect revelations about the use of chemical weapons.
All useful to publicly catapult that sleazy, sinister, lying criminal Rifaat Assad into the ranks of convicted war criminals.
I recommend Uncle Rifaat start selling his Mayfair mansion and other assets to build a war chest to pay many millions in fees to lawyers in his failed efforts to escape justice and extradition to a new Syria.
The worst cell in Tadmor awaits him – let some of the surviving victime of that era choose which one.
They say vile legless Maher Assad’s hero is his Uncle Rifaat. Maybe they will be reunited in courtroons and adjacent Tadmore dungeons.
December 2nd, 2012, 12:35 pm
Citizen said:
Syria: Does the West know what it is doing?
http://www.moscowtopnews.com/?area=postView&id=2415
Are those who lead the West’s diplomacy aware of what is happening? Are they well-meaning fools, totally out of contact with reality? Do they really believe what they say? Or are they cynical, two-faced, conniving and downright evil? We are speaking, yet again, of Catwoman Clinton and the Boy Wonder, Hague, two insults to international diplomacy.
How is it possible for Hillary “War Zone” Clinton (now thankfully with her hair let down, lady-like and not tied at the back making her look new age, butch and ballistic) and William Jefferson “If only they knew” Hague (no hair to mention but hardly butch or ballistic) to make comments such as “Assad has to go” and “The Syrian Government is not following the plan” when firstly a UN backed peace plan is in the process of implementation and secondly – and more importantly – the western-backed “innocent civilians” aka terrorists have not laid down their arms.
What are security forces supposed to do when armed gangs of thugs are running amok torching buildings, blowing up military vehicles, decapitating people in the street, slitting throats, raping women, slicing the breasts off girls and basically doing what they were and are still doing in Libya? See the pic. The UN backed peace plan calls on ALL sides in the conflict to lay down their weapons, which does not translate into the Syrian Government unilaterally pulling out of urban areas while the terrorists supplied by the FUKUS Axis (France, UK, US and Israel) run amok.
One would like to see what the governments of these countries would do if thousands of Islamist terrorists were let on the loose perpetrating the crimes mentioned above. Why, the authorities would just stand back and do nothing of course. I don’t think so. Hell, the Occupy protesters were smashed around the head and kicked in by the US police for holding a peaceful demonstration. Imagine if they had been holding RPGs.
So when Hillary “War Zone” Clinton appears with that characteristic snarl of the US Secretaries of State, calling on Assad to go, when a UN peace plan is being implemented supposedly with his help, and when William Jefferson “If only they knew” Hague appears with a supercilious smirk on his face, saying that the Syrian government is not following the plan, when they both know very well who and what is arming the “rebels” aka terrorists, then they both come across as the two worst insults to diplomacy that the annals of world history have produced.
As for Ban Ki-Moon, get real. No amount of appeals is going to produce results. The only thing that is going to produce results is that the west stops arming the Syrian terrorists. No terrorists, no problem. How can the UN Secretary-General make an appeal for the Syrian President to start to adopt the six-point plan without making one single reference to the fact that the terrorists fighting against him are not laying down their arms?
In fact, it appears that neither the West, not the UNO, have a clue as to what is happening inside Syria or if they do, then they are studies in hypocrisy. Have they no idea of the genuine popularity of Bashar al-Assad inside Syria? Have they no idea how unpopular the terrorists are? Have they no idea that Islamist fanatics are roaming around the country stirring up religious and ethnic hatred to destabilise the government?
Have they no idea that Turkey is harbouring terrorists? Have they no idea of the destabilising actions of NATO bed-boys Qatar and Saudi Arabia? Have they no idea that if the Syrian government forces withdraw from the cities, the terrorists will pour in and start slaughtering people again?
Who killed the 3,000 members of the Syrian security forces? Fairy godmothers? One day the history book will hold accountable those who perpetrated acts of skulduggery instead of diplomacy and those who spoke about democracy while siding with terrorists, siding with those who rape, pillage, murder and torture.
December 2nd, 2012, 12:40 pm
Citizen said:
Syria, Russia and the truth
It is by now crystal clear that western media resources are trying to shape public opinion against Russia by using Syria, or against Syria by using Russia, the eternal foe from the Cold War (after losing 26 million souls freeing Europe from Fascism, a detail they always forget).
Is the western public really so easy to dupe?
For a real picture of what is going on in Syria, let us use Syrian sources and not western media lies and let us also remember that there exists something called responsibility in the media.
In my thirty-five years as a journalist working in the printed and electronic media and also in production of television documentaries, after working in daily and weekly newspapers, monthly news magazines and internet media, I have been privy to information which if I had used it, would have destroyed careers. Did I use it? No, I did not.
Why? Because I believe in something called responsibility of the media, because I believe common decency and good journalism can and must work together if we are to wake up in the morning and feel good when we see that reflection in the mirror and because I do not believe that you have to sell your soul to the Devil, insert a microphone in a toilet bowl or invent pure barefaced lies to sell a story.
However, these days it is a little more complicated than that, is it not? It is no longer about paparazzi taking a cheeky or intrusive snapshot of someone having her financial advisor doing to her what all financial advisors do to their clients, it is more like creating a riot in your back garden so your plants get watered by the police using water cannon so that you can escape the hosepipe ban.
Manipulation and propaganda yes, news no
Remember Iraq? Saddam Hussein was trying to get yellowcake uranium from Nigeria (the country producing it is in fact Niger)? Remember the evidence that Saddam Hussein was hiding Weapons of Mass Destruction? Remember when Bush called him a liar? Remember the “proof” that he posed a direct and immediate threat to the USA and its allies?
Remember the fact that Colin Powell’s evidence at the UNO turned out to be photographs of milk factories, that the “direct evidence” proved to be a ten-year-old thesis copied and pasted from the Net, remember the suicide of the specialist Dr. David Kelly? So who was lying, Saddam Hussein when he said he had no WMD or Bush when he said that he did?
Whose story did the world swallow?
Remember Afghanistan? Our boys over there to make the streets of Washington and London a safer place? From whom? Al Qaeda? There has not been a credible link between Afghanistan and Al Qaeda for around a decade. The ones they are fighting in Afghanistan are the Taliban and they are simply defending their country against foreigners.
Remember the interview Mohammed Omar gave to Pakistan’s Dawn magazine back in the nineties (since vanished from the Internet) in which he claimed that Afghanistan would be attacked soon (way before 9/11/2001)? Remember the American intentions to bring pipelines across Afghanistan from Central Asian oil and gas reserves? Remember the mineral wealth of Afghanistan?
Whose story did the world swallow?
Remember Libya? Remember the stories that Colonel Gaddafi was indiscriminately shelling innocent civilians and bombing cities, murdering hundreds of people? Remember when this was proven to be a load of codswallop?
Remember the French panicking because the Libyan Armed Forces were two days away from victory over the terrorists the west had backed against him? Remember what these terrorists did? They sliced the breasts off women, raped, torched buildings, murdered, impaled boys with iron bars, slit the throats of Negroes, and committed ethnic cleansing. Remember who called them “freedom fighters” or “activists” and applauded what they did?
Remember the UNO proposal to award Muammar al-Qathafi with a special humanitarian prize for his record in Pan-African humanitarian projects? Remember his satellite systems which he financed bringing tele-medicine to all Africans across the continent? Remember his e-learning programme, financed by him, to reach the four corners of his continent?
Whose story did the world swallow?
And now we turn to Syria, very much in the focus of the news channels and newspapers. Last night I watched a debate on SKY News, whose lies during the Libyan and Syrian campaigns have relegated it in my eyes simply to a source of corporate propaganda and nothing more; I was shocked at the naivety and shallowness of the comments, or was it a sinister attempt at media manipulation of public opinion?
So suppose someone starts telling the truth about Syria? Suppose someone started saying that the “Assad Government” is fighting back against terrorists armed by the West to overthrow his Government because the West wants to get a foothold in Syria as the last stepping stone before Iran is attacked, while HAMAS and Hezbollah are trashed, and while Russia’s last Mediterranean base is dismantled.
Suppose someone started reporting the facts from inside Syria, not conjecture that all killings are the responsibility of Government troops. What about the three thousand police and security forces murdered. By whom? Innocent and unarmed civilians? Like the “unarmed civilians” in Libya one supposes?
If you do not arm terrorists and set them loose inside a sovereign state, the sovereign state does not have to fight back does it? Blaming Russia for “arming Assad” is as ridiculous as not taking the blame for arming terrorists inside Libya and Syria and accepting total responsibility for what they did. Does Russia have boots on the ground in Syria? No? Then why does the west and why did the west in Libya?
http://www.moscowtopnews.com/?area=postView&id=2411
December 2nd, 2012, 12:48 pm
Dolly Buster said:
The evil Russians should give up their habit of imposing totalitarian regimes in other countries.
Russians took their loss in the Cold War as their personal loss. Their country lost. But had they been smart, they woulda taken it as a victory for themselves too [because: Russians were freed from a single-party communist system].
So, the POS Putin is bitter about Russia being the loser in 1989, so he would like to destroy the West. Problem is, he can’t. Russia will never be a superpower again.
December 2nd, 2012, 2:00 pm
Ghufran said:
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Wait few days, weeks or months and you will hear that rebels have regained control of the area, this business if back and forth claims and counterclaims is taking Syria nowhere. As rebels have access to sam6 or similar SAMs the army will use Mig25 which is not designed to bomb small targets on the ground, this will definitely increase civilian death and destruction, would not be cheaper to just send Bashar to Russia and let a transitional team rule Syria until elections are held?
December 2nd, 2012, 2:28 pm
Ghufran said:
Lebanon is already part of the Syrian war but this new development is not good for the rebels or Lebanon;
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December 2nd, 2012, 2:34 pm
Ghufran said:
Muhammad is a founder of Darayya’s Enab Baladi web page, he was killed in the bombing on the city:
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December 2nd, 2012, 2:40 pm
Ghufran said:
Muhammad is a founder of Darayya’s Enab Baladi web page, he was killed in the bombing on the city:
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December 2nd, 2012, 2:41 pm
Syrialover said:
CITIZEN #43
The author of that long diatribe you insisted on posting in full is an extremist anti-western and anti-democracy figure working for Russian State media named Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey.
Some believe him to be a fake invented by the Russians. I hope not, it makes it even more entertaining if he is a real person.
Looking at his photograph you see a figure out of a comedy about eccentric old people.
December 2nd, 2012, 2:42 pm
Syrialover said:
CITIZEN asked:
“Who killed the 3,000 members of the Syrian security forces?”
ANSWER: Desperate and brave people who were fighting to protect themselves and others from being killed by attacks from a publicly funded “army” turned vicious enemy. A force supposed to serve all Syrians, not turn their heavy weaponry on ordinary people and go on a rampage to burn the country.
December 2nd, 2012, 2:53 pm
Syrialover said:
VISITOR #38, I don’t agree with the need for insults, but I have to agree that GHUFRAN doesn’t always add up.
December 2nd, 2012, 2:56 pm
Visitor said:
SL 50,
I took note of what you said. But it doesn’t make the slightest difference to me.
I make my comments the way I FEEl fit.
That is the ONLY criterion.
Next time you make such interjections, do not expect any responses. Just refer to the above.
December 2nd, 2012, 3:02 pm
Syrialover said:
Dear VISITOR #51,
I was endorsing what you said, but not the way you said it.
We can’t have everything in life.
December 2nd, 2012, 3:26 pm
Syrialover said:
OBSERVER #21 and #24
You express it very well when you say:
– “the “drunken state of power that [Assad] and the regime is in cannot fathom any consequence to [their] thinking and actions”
– “[Assad] is crazy and drunk with power and blinded by hate and sectarian thinking” and
– “delusion is another trait that we see in those with absolutely corrupted power”
And ALI in his own way is here innocently and unselfconsciously providing us with a window into that thinking.
Again, you nail it perfectly when you say:
“ALI is not crazy he is just drunk with a vision of absolute power that the father gave the community of supporters.”
December 2nd, 2012, 3:52 pm
Dolly Buster said:
I think putin’s dildo Medvyedev has stated that Russia is not offering asylum to Batta.
December 2nd, 2012, 4:18 pm
MarigoldRan said:
This war IS back and forth.
But after each “back and forth,” the rebels are a little more “forth” and the regime is a little more “back.”
Ghurfan, do you deny the military progress the rebels have made over the last 9 months?
December 2nd, 2012, 4:36 pm
annie said:
I wonder why I ever gave Ali a thumbs up after having read his above comments.
You sound like you are close to the inner circle, Ali, so please tell them to scram and thereby save hundreds of Syrian lives.
(19:04 The Sunday death toll in Syria has risen to 121 people, activists said.)
To read more: http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=253828#ixzz2DvvKmwy2
December 2nd, 2012, 4:40 pm
Visitor said:
SL @52,
It is also time for you to learn that not two persons are alike. So do not expect others to observe and adhere to your way of looking at things.
Once you learn that, you will find many things have become easier for you to deal with.
I usually do not give advices, like many here do, but this would be the first and last advice I offer.
December 2nd, 2012, 4:42 pm
ALI said:
I spent long hours thinking after the encounter I had earlier with Visitor on this blog. I was deeply hurt when he kept insulting the late Hafiz and my father, I didn’t know why he kept doing it although I dealt with him with respect and didn’t mention his mum, sister or any of his family members.
Visitor insulted the two main figures in my life, my father who’s literally putting his life on the line to keep Syria safe, he didn’t go home for the last 9 months although his office is in Damascus next to our home; I found it quite unfair of insulting a man you didn’t get to meet or experience, you just don’t know how many people he helped to send home taking full responsibility for that, and most of them are Sunnis but anyway he does it without expecting of any appreciation from online bloggers.
The second is Hafiz, I found lately that most of you faked his love, these millions of people who went to his funeral were fake and only now i get that, but for us he’s the man he did his best and succeeded to free us, to define us and most importantly to put us on the map. We didn’t care if we have power in our towns or not, we didn’t care if he paves our roads or not, all what we wanted a secure future for our kids. Back in the days it was a dream for a (day3anji) to attend uni, the best dream was to pass preparatory, back in the days universities lecturers used to kick Alawis out of the class nowadays 60% of Alawis do hold a bachelor degree of some sort. For us he’s a Sheik of Sufi Tareeqa and we don’t say no to him, he’s the man of his own. unfortunately you don’t have a figure who did what Hafiz did to his people and maybe that’s why it’s hard for you to understand our unconditional support.
Visitor I forgive you.
December 2nd, 2012, 4:43 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Make your choice now, there is still time to destroy the Zionist Plan to bring their messiah Satan and install one world satanic rule on earth. God, true god (not Sharmoutallah, not lizard skinned ones) will not allow this, he will bring judgment on humans:
December 2nd, 2012, 4:54 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Look, Hafiz may have been a great man for the Alawites. But he was not a great man for anyone else. So if you and the Alawites want to think he’s a great man, that is fine. But don’t expect anyone else to agree with you.
The problem with running a police state is that after a while everyone starts lying about how they feel about things. Many people secretly hated Assad in the past, but they did not dare say it in public for fear of being tortured by your police.
The longer a person keeps an angry secret, the greater the anger becomes. Until it finally explodes, as what we’re seeing in Syria today. This is the reason why all police states fail, in an orgy of blood and violence.
So if Hafiz Assad was truly a great man, he would have made Syria great nation for all Syrians. However, he made Syria a great nation only for his supporters, at the expense of everyone else.
December 2nd, 2012, 4:58 pm
ALI said:
Lady Annie:
“You sound like you are close to the inner circle, Ali, so please tell them to scram and thereby save hundreds of Syrian lives.”
Sorry if i disturb you with my comments, but I’m just a genuine (not paid) blogger and love to share my thoughts with others without makeup.
Personally, I have zero influence but be assured most (not all) of the council are good people and trying to do the best for Syria. The problem here is the existence of Jihadists, leaving the stage to them is like putting every minorities’ head on the chopping bloc or next to a car bomb, and simply we can’t afford that. NATO will not attack, Russia calls everyday to assure us and we trust Russia.
December 2nd, 2012, 4:59 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Well, yes, the extremists are an issue, aren’t they? But many Syrians believe they’re better than the regime. At least the extremists are not bombing them with jet planes or shelling them with artillery.
You do realize that the more the regime bombs a town, the more likely that town is to welcome jihadists?
When the regime shot the protesters, it opened the door to them. If the moderates are side-lined, as they were in Syria, the extremists will take over.
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I still don’t understand the regime’s thinking. It says it fears the extremists, but the regime’s own violent actions opened the door for them.
December 2nd, 2012, 5:01 pm
ALI said:
MarigoldRan :
Thanks.
December 2nd, 2012, 5:07 pm
Darryl said:
Dear SyriaLover, please stop moderating my dear friend Visitor. I like him the way he is; a straight shooter not a politician.
Dear Visitor, a thought occurred to me while reading some of your posts blasting away at some posters. The Messenger of Allah has said that the Islamic Ummah will be divided into 73 groups and only one will get to paradise. What if that group to make it were our Alawite brothers and sisters?
December 2nd, 2012, 5:08 pm
Ghat Al Bird said:
SC and many of those who comments might be interested to learn that David Ignatius has written a pro Susan Rice for Sec. of State piece in the Washington Post.
Ms. Rice was mentored by Madeleine Allbright of , ” its worth killing 500,000 Iraqi children to accomplish regime change in Baghdad” fame.
Ms. Rice is also on record as supporting direct US participation in Syria and one can hazard a guess that she too might be inclined to go on record as stating, “its worth killing several million Syrian children to accomplish regime change.”
Further disregard for the lives of Arabs/muslims in general.
December 2nd, 2012, 5:11 pm
ALI said:
“I still don’t understand the regime’s thinking. It says it fears the extremists, but the regime’s own violent actions opened the door for them.”
The tricky bit is when Jihadists and MB take civilians as human shields. So when the anti-terrorism unit attacks it’s impossible to sort who from who.
For example, in an episode of “Home Land” the FBI were chasing a suspect who ran into a mosque and the attack team followed him and shot three innocent people. There was no way to distinguish who from who in that incident.
December 2nd, 2012, 5:12 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
The real god of heaven warned us against Satan (IBLIS), he is real; god does not create ant and ant eater, flowers and aphids, viruses and wars. God create life, beauty in everything, perfect design, masters and teachers for evolution. Satan, the horned and tailed devil, is real, his cast out angles of demons, Jins are real, his evil plans to enslave mankind and places himself as the true creator is real, his earth helpers if you are not awake, will win. He uses deception, manipulation, entities such as Zionists, and religious leaders, Catholics, Ayatollah’s, Arrour’s like deceivers to carry out his final agenda:
December 2nd, 2012, 5:26 pm
SYRIAN HAMSTER said:
Wrong, Hafez assad was never a great man for anyone,more so for the minorities than for others. He was the one who destroyed the beautiful social cohesion of many minority communities, placing young men from most coastal villages with only one choice and that was to be his surfs and tools in his megalomaniac plans and desperate search for legacy of the fools. He is responsible for the utter destruction of civil society and for the promotion of people like the characters we encountered over forty years. Imbeciles, heartless, greedy, and criminals from his own and all other sects. He ruled through criminals in front of whose arrogance, lack of respect for life, theft, greed, and feeling of entitlement to abuse Syrians superseded the worst of the ugly Aghas of the long gone era. Good people from all sects, and his before all others, were murdered, jailed, exiled, or intimidated into silence. What a f… great man.
To top it off, he pitted minorities against people, most of whom had no hand in their former oppression, further eroding the complex web of relationship that bound Syria together and that had allowed him and his gang to become what they have become. He murdered and jailed his betters, those who had favored him in promotion despite the presence of countless other officers who were more worthy than him. I am not merely critical of him, i am far more than that.
To top it off, he left the country, forcibly, in the hand of the two craziest b…..rds this small nation has ever witnessed and been victimized by. These two thugs make the legend of Dracula sound like a children bed-time tale. They have further pitted the minorities, poor conscripts, and skill-less fools from all sects against the Syria and Syrians. The day this regime is destroyed, its security apparatus and dungeons are eradicated, and its leaders, and civil right abusers and its largest beneficiaries are brought to justice would be the day minorities in Syria achieve their real freedom before even the majority, which is already splintered along many ideological lines and limitless shades of adherence to religion.
Dunces, both those who mistake lifestyle for secularism, and those who still believe that these thugs protect minority instead of seeing them for abusers of all will lose big time, especially those pee-brains who worship anyone of this swarm of flies.
Forget Hama if you may, forget the Jolan, forget the destruction of Syrian fabric, and the molestation of ethics, all done by Hafez Assad, just remember that he forced his foolish, psychologically imbalanced son on Syria just so that he can rule from his grave. If that is not treason, I wonder what else would be.
So now, it would be clear that who killed the 3000 security thugs was non other than their master, the foolish insect son of traitor.
December 2nd, 2012, 5:36 pm
AJ said:
TOZZZZZZZZZ 3alek w 3a 7afez
Sorry but couldn’t help it 😀
December 2nd, 2012, 5:38 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Ms. Rice is also on record as supporting direct US participation in Syria and one can hazard a guess that she too might be inclined to go on record as stating, “its worth killing several million Syrian children to accomplish regime change.”
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She can tile up the all the oceans of the world and drink all its water if Rice’s like to. The difference between Iraq, Libya and Syria is that the idiot cowards and Zionist helpers Saddam and Gaddafi, like the deceiver Munafek Ayatoilet, gave up WMD and Nukes and basically disarmed themselves, placed he country at the mercy of a criminal group called the United Nations, a puppet agency for the Satanist. Bashar Assad, did not and will not, not only that, HE IS PREPARED TO USE IT. The Syrian nuclear program did not stop, it accelerated at fast pace underground, and they are ready now for computer testing. You see the baby milk factory the Jews bombed were built part of the concealment plan, that is was made to look not like baby milk factory on purpose and was set out to appear as if it as (the FASCILITY) but it is not, it is a mock up, that is all that were destroyed. So Rice can dream all the Luciferean Lizard dreams, the end of the Syria conflict in the event of intervention is WWIII.
I think Bashar, should seriously plan for another Monte Carlo / St. Tropez, Napa Valley and Sonoma County Development on the Med in a new Republic of Syria, SNP has the master plan. IT IS GORGEOUS COUNTRY with GOURGOUS SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE.
December 2nd, 2012, 5:48 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
Meanwhile, somewhere in the north of country, the FSA is busy hauling the all sorts of weapons and ammunitions that they had captured some days ago after overrunning yet another katibah (battalion).
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December 2nd, 2012, 5:51 pm
MarigoldRan said:
When the American soldiers march into an Afghan or Iraqi village, they BRING CANDY WITH THEM.
It sounds stupid, but actually it’s very very smart. If they can win the acceptance of the children, then they can also win the acceptance of the adults. The soldiers also bring money and electric generators, to distribute to the village.
The American military have ENTIRE LIBRARIES of books devoted to Psychological Operations and Counter-Insurgency. And they use the lessons from these books to help fight their wars. They have learned a lot from Vietnam, and the importance of winning over the civilian population. And it has helped them. They didn’t win in Iraq, but they didn’t lose either.
Compare how the Americans fought their war with how Assad’s army has fought their war:
1. The Americans use smart bombs to focus on the fighters. Assad’s army bombs everyone.
2. America is willing to negotiate with some of its enemies. Assad’s army does not.
3. American troops bring candy. Assad’s troops bring cluster bombs.
4. America protects its soldiers. Assad’s regime sends its soldiers forward as meat-shields.
5. America can re-supply its outposts, Assad’s army cannot.
6. America tries to win over the countryside. Or at the very least, keep the countryside neutral with bribes of money and gifts. Assad bombs the countryside, inflaming everyone to take down the regime.
Say what you want about America, but they DO learn from their mistakes.
Assad’s regime on the other hand makes the same mistake over and over again.
December 2nd, 2012, 5:53 pm
ALI said:
“, just remember that he forced his foolish, psychologically imbalanced son on Syria just so that he can rule from his grave.”
That was a BIG mistake and we all admit that, back in the days we were left with no options just to choose him. The sect at that time was on the verge of being split and an internal was about to start. I remember clearly how the Mashayeik and leaders of other tribes were in total opposition for Bashar to rule. At that time 6 big officers did a blood pac with Hafiz and promised him of putting Bashar as his successor, and formed what called (El7aras Alqadeem). Finally (after 4 days of Hafiz’s death) they all agreed to put Bashar but with a direct supervision of a council which was established for this purpose at that time which called (Majles Alzel, the Shadow Council). Subsequently, on the 5th day they announced the death of Hafiz and released Khaddam to make his famous announcement.
The challenge we faced after few years is when Bashar surrounded himself with Sunnis (beneficiaries) and a new generations of Alawis and Sunnis showed loyalty to him (El7aras Aljadded, and here we’re stuck between the hammer and the hard place.
December 2nd, 2012, 6:00 pm
Humanist said:
Ali,
Honest question: will the “alawite identity” survive the fall of “al-Assad’s Syria”?
Maybe it’s a stupid question. But reading your comments, it seems to me being “alawite” is just about politics: supporting Assad etc.
(I hope I am wrong .)
December 2nd, 2012, 6:52 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
It is not only about Syria, it is about control of the planet
Watch the imagaries:
December 2nd, 2012, 7:05 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
The Annunaki:
December 2nd, 2012, 7:08 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
What if that group to make it were our Alawite brothers and sisters?
The verse in Quraan contradict your statement.
Hafez was a devil,I hope he is burning
December 2nd, 2012, 7:45 pm
Dolly Buster said:
No, the victorious group is our sect At-Taa’ifah Al-Mansoorah.
As for the demented Alawis, they are not even among the 73, because Alawites are kuffaar altogether.
December 2nd, 2012, 7:48 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
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Read more here:
http://www.syriatruth.org/news/tabid/93/Article/8726/Default.aspx
SNP comment: Not just the mercenaries should be targeted, but rather the source countries of those Luciferian Satanic Occult bastards. Once a serious attack occur on Turkey, Qatar, Libya, Gaza, Subhuman El Cheapo Paki, Lebanon, etc.. Syria will see immediate halt of terrorist attacks. Target any country that Syria can produce publicly an undisputable proof of aiding the terrorists either by Chemical, Biological or Nuclear response. We have the legal and moral right of self defense under International Laws and treaties as well as under United Nation Charters.
December 2nd, 2012, 7:57 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Ali,
Sigh. This is the reason why monarchies and dictatorships don’t work in the long run. The second generation is almost never as good as the first generation (I’m not saying Assad the father was good. But he is undoubtedly better than the current Assad).
Perhaps the Alawites (and all of Syria) should consider adopting a more democratic form of government so that one bad leader doesn’t ruin us all?
America has had many bad presidents (George W. Bush Junior, for example), but since America is democratic, it can SURVIVE its bad leaders and elect a better one. Over the last 200 years, America has had only ONE civil war. ONE. How many civil wars and revolutions has Syria had over the last 200 years?
December 2nd, 2012, 8:03 pm
Syrialover said:
ALI
I respect your views as sincere and your perspectives as different from most. I also have a suspicion you might be too young to have consciously lived through the Hafez era and be aware of the past.
Comment # 73 shows how your head is mixed up. Those people didn’t “own” Syria or have a mandate from the population to do what they did, or even a proper system for making decisions like they do in democratic, free properly-run countries.
The real world does not work like that unless criminality is involved.
The Assadists had conspired to give themselves all the power they wanted (using a gun) and do and take whatever they felt like to make themselves and their associates wealthy, secure and keep entertained.
They were unqualified for the role of running a country in terms of ability, training, experience, attitude and morals, and they did a lazy and inept ROTTEN JOB, non-modernising and non-developing Syria.
That Hama incident was beyond disgusting, savage and criminal – and said everything there is to say about those people “ruling” Syria.
You are like someone has been reared in a deeply dysfunctional and abusive village but see it as normal and OK because you are unaware of any alternative, and in any case got nice toys.
December 2nd, 2012, 8:03 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Tara
I always enjoy reading your comments, please do not slow down.
Hafez came to power by military coup, he ruled by spreading fear, he is responsible for many Lebanese assassinations, he killed too many Syrians, he killed many Syrian leaders, he fought against Iraq, when Iraq did not initiate the fighting, he abandoned Iskandarone, he abandoned Golan Heights, he left us with another devil as president.
I hope he is burning now.
December 2nd, 2012, 8:26 pm
Visitor said:
Syr.Expat @71
“????? ?? ??? ??? ????? ???????? ?? ????? ??????? ???? ??????? ????????”
December 2nd, 2012, 8:37 pm
zoo said:
Russia to Turkey: No alternative to the al-Assad regime yet
Turkey eyes Russia fuel to make up for Iran loss
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-eyes-russia-fuel-to-make-up-for-iran-loss.aspx?pageID=238&nID=35977&NewsCatID=348
There is no conflict between Turkey and Russia regarding the Syria issue and Russia also realizes the fact that Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad is losing his grip on power, a senior Turkish official told the Hürriyet Daily News in a recent interview.
“They agree with us that the bloodshed should stop and that things need to change in Syria, but they do not see an alternative to the al-Assad regime yet,” the official added.
December 2nd, 2012, 8:42 pm
zoo said:
Egypt’s misogynistic democracy
In the draft constitution, women are second-class
By Charity Wallace / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Sunday, December 2, 2012, 4:21 AM
…
What is perhaps most significant and disappointing is the fact that this has done serious damage to the interests of Egyptian women — and, by extension, women throughout the Arab world.
The 85-member assembly — down from 100, thanks to the resignations of those who opposed Islamist domination of the council — contained just four women, all of whom were Islamists themselves.
It’s no surprise, then, that the proposed constitution fails to enshrine equal rights for women.
For instance, the constitutional assembly rejected a proposed article banning human trafficking and the sale of women and children. Opponents complained that it would have prohibited the marrying of girls under 18, which is permitted under Shari’a law.
…
However, America does have a moral responsibility to stand up for universal principles of human freedom, principles that are shared by millions of Egyptians.
Since the United States gives Egypt about $2 billion in aid every year, it is clearly within our rights to urge the new government to guarantee certain core protections for women.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/egypt-misogynistic-democracy-article-1.1211240#ixzz2DwxLTd00
December 2nd, 2012, 8:57 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Zoo,
When America started, women didn’t have the right to vote too. It wasn’t until the 20th century that women won the right to vote. It took 50 years after that before blacks were allowed to vote.
Democracies in the Middle East MUST be Islamic. If they’re not Islamic, they’re not democracies. The majority of the population are Muslim, which means that a democratic government must be Muslim too.
December 2nd, 2012, 9:04 pm
Visitor said:
Hey Ali @58
??? ??? ??????? ???? ??????? ????? ???? ????
(When insolence loses direction, it seeks it by looking for you)
I insulted the two most important people in your life?
So, you insult all the thousands upon thousands of the 7Hama victims. But you insolently play victim when someone mentions the butcher of 7Hama, Hafiz the mule, the shame of the Syria people, the reject of the human race, the descendent of the Mongolian thugs, the leftover of the Nazi outcasts, the scourge of all canines?
Sorry, I didn’t fulfill my duty to the 7Hama victims last night. I hope they forgive my shortcomings tonight, thanks to you!!!
And you insolently forgive me?
Thanks, again I can sleep easier tonight.
And who cares about your dad? And why do you bring him in every post? Are you a kid? Are you not grown up yet? Did you read any of us talking about dads?
December 2nd, 2012, 9:05 pm
Visitor said:
Dear Darryll @64,
As you can see my dear brothers answered you satisfactorily.
The saying you just mentioned also refers to the Jews and Christians who were split to 71 & 72 divisions respectively, and only one in either case will be on the right path and they will be one with the Muslim division that will be triumphant.
When you quote Hadith you should pay attention to the full text. The Prophet (PBUH) was specifically asked to describe the victorious division and he did so to your and my benefit. He replied as follows: ?? ??? ???? ???????
Do not misquote or distort the Prophet’s Hadith. Aside from the fact that you are presenting such Hadith in a public forum with many witnesses, you have to remember this:
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December 2nd, 2012, 9:16 pm
Syrian said:
A Mig was shot down today in western Aleppo, with very clear vedio this time,enjoy!
http://youtu.be/kV6Lhld2E4Y
December 2nd, 2012, 9:35 pm
ALI said:
Humanist:
“Honest question: will the “alawite identity” survive the fall of “al-Assad’s Syria”?
We’ve survived all the intentional oppression for the last five centuries so I can’t see why not.
December 2nd, 2012, 9:36 pm
Sheila said:
Dear Dolly Buster,
Maybe we should let Allah decide who is or isn’t Kaffer. I do not think we humans have the ability to do that.
December 2nd, 2012, 9:55 pm
Syrian said:
Very good Alawi blogger named Karfan in 2005 blamed Hafez for destroying the sect identaty
He concluded
“Alawie, as a religion or sect, no longer exists like all other sects in Syria. But Alawies have one thing in common: they are the ones who keep this regime alive. And according to Karfan there is another thing that is common between us, Alawies: We have no future, at least not one that is worth looking forward to.”
http://syriaexposed.blogspot.com/2005/03/myth-no-7-alawie-is-still-religious.html?m=1
December 2nd, 2012, 9:57 pm
Ghufran said:
New York Times:
Western intelligence think that Syrian troops movement around suspected chemical weapons sites are more than routine maneuvering and logistical measures but they have not seen evidence of steps to mount those weapons to make them battle- ready.
Manaf Tlas said that Bashar may consider using those weapons.
I hope the reports are not true and that Tlas is wrong, using WMDs aginst other Syrians will kill any hope for a peaceful solution to this war and will greatly increase chances of wide spread revenge killing against areas that are considered supportive of the regime, enough red lines have been crossed by both parties but the use of WMDs must be prevented at any cost.
December 2nd, 2012, 10:44 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
Now that’s an interesting development.
An FSA unit of 20+ men lead by a woman,
who is a First-Lieutenant. She claims to
have defected from the Syrian regime.
I am not sure if the video is authentic,
especially that her last name is Ar’our.
December 2nd, 2012, 10:56 pm
ann said:
I see the `israel lobby on this board is in overdrive today! 8)
December 2nd, 2012, 11:40 pm
ann said:
Wondering who’s pounding who in Syria? Wonder no more 🙂
Syria army pounds rebels around Damascus – 1 Hour ago
The government in Syria appears intent on creating a security cordon around the capital and the international airport
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-violence-20121203,0,1695869.story
BEIRUT — Fierce clashes and heavy government bombardment were reported Sunday on the outskirts of Damascus as the Syrian military pressed an offensive aimed at securing the capital and its vulnerable international airport.
Syrian warplanes and artillery pounded rebel-held positions to the south and east of the capital, opposition spokesmen said, continuing a pattern of heavy strikes that has continued for at least four days.
The government appears intent on creating a security cordon around the capital and along the road to the nation’s international airport, where flights were interrupted last week because of clashes along the main airport road. The government reportedly brought in troop reinforcements to secure the route to the airport, about 15 miles southeast of downtown Damascus.
The pro-government Al Watan newspaper reported Sunday that the Syrian army “has completely opened the gates of hell before all who would even consider approaching Damascus or planning to attack it.”
The official state news service reported Sunday that troops killed scores of “Al Qaeda terrorists” in various Damascus suburbs, including Zamalka and Dariya.
[…]
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-violence-20121203,0,1695869.story
December 2nd, 2012, 11:50 pm
ann said:
Syria TV airs images of dead Lebanese Salafists – December 03, 2012
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Dec-03/196970-syria-tv-airs-images-of-dead-lebanese-salafists.ashx
TRIPOLI, Lebanon: Syrian state television broadcast images Sunday of more than five dead bodies with Lebanese identification, reporting that the men were among 21 Lebanese Salafist fighters who fell into a Syrian Army ambush Friday.
The station said that the men were killed in Tal Kalakh after sneaking into the country from Wadi Khaled, and that others in the group had been wounded.
Late Sunday, state TV aired another report saying the Syrian army thwarted an attempt to smuggle Al-Qaeda fighters from Lebanon into Syria through the border Qusayr region. While, Syrian TV said some of the fighters were “killed,” it did not elaborate on their nationalities.
There have been conflicting reports about the fate of the 21 men. Tripoli based Sheikh Nabil Rahim, who is in contact with the families of the missing, told The Daily Star that three of the five bodies shown on television had been identified. He named them as Khodr Alameddine, Hussein Sroor and Abdel-Hamid Agha.
Aside from these three, Rahim said “there are no accurate numbers of those killed … or information on who was arrested or managed to flee.”
There was also divergence in information about how and when the men went to Syria.
Sources familiar with the situation as well as several Free Syrian Army officers told The Daily Star that between 25 and 27 men, ranging in age from 18 to 25, gathered for evening prayer in a Tripoli mosque Thursday. Planning to die in battle, some of them wrote their final wills.
According to these sources, the men hail from various areas, including Tripoli, Beddawi and Akkar, and some are Palestinian members of the Islamist group Fatah al-Islam.
All of the men were Salafists who believe their religion dictates they should fight Iran, Syria and Hezbollah.
The sources said that the men planned to take a smugglers’ route from the Lebanese village of Hleit to Qalaat al-Hosn in Syria after dawn prayers Friday. The group fell into an ambush in Tal Sirin, on the way to Qalaat al-Hasan.
[…]
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2012/Dec-03/196970-syria-tv-airs-images-of-dead-lebanese-salafists.ashx
December 3rd, 2012, 12:00 am
Syrian said:
“Russian President Vladimir Putin arrives in Turkey for key talks that are set to focus on trade and energy. The two countries already do booming bilateral business, but the plan is to boost their mutual trade to $100 billion a year”
“Turkey’s confiscation of cargo from a Moscow-Damascus passenger plane in October, on claims that it was carrying military goods to the Syrian army, increased the tension between the two countries over the issue.
However, Russian Ambassador to Ankara Vladimir Ivanovski told reporters Nov. 30 that both sides had decided not to escalate the problem and that they had “closed the case.””
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-eyes-russia-fuel-to-make-up-for-iran-loss.aspx?pageID=517&nID=35977&NewsCatID=348
December 3rd, 2012, 12:05 am
Observer said:
I must commend both Syrian Hamster and Visitor on the rebuttal of ALI regarding the figure of the late Prethident.
It is truly remarkable to read the thinking behind the so called veneration of the sect for the rule of the father and how the perception and reality of past oppression and discrimination has completely colored their view of the world. The poison of this world view can be found in the Jewish people whose oppression has made them see the world in this prism only. It is logical to think therefore in pure sectarian terms but the huge problem is that the leader of the Alawite community used all means for his own personal gain and took the sect hostage to his and his family and mafia’s survival.
The very fact that ALI thinks in pure Alawi thinking tells me that he is NOT Syrian, he is NOT Arab, he is SECTARIAN.
Therefore, please go on and create your own Alawistan or whatever you want to call it. Get out of our hair and in your Alawistan I wish for you to live in peace and prosperity and in freedom and that your future and the future of your children be secure.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU SAY WERE GIVEN TO YOU BY THE LATE FATHER WERE DONE SO BECAUSE THEY WERE EXPLICITLY EXTRACTED FROM THE REST OF THE SYRIAN PEOPLE AND BY NOT ONLY BEING OPPRESSIVE AND DICTATORIAL BUT ALSO BY BY CORRUPT AND CORRUPTING OF YOUR SECT AND OTHERS FOR THE LATE FATHER ENJOYED HUMILIATION AND A HUMILIATED PERSON DOES NOT REVOLT AGAINST HIS MASTER.
This sectarian thinking is utterly revealing and the description of the inner machinations of the regime power structure and its exercise is of course an indication of the barbarity of the ruling mafia that has destroyed the society and gutted its institutions and unravelled its fabric.
What a bunch of Neanderthals this mafia and its supporters have been
Syrian Hamster for President and Visitor for Prime Minister.
Justice fo Hamza and for Hama and for Tadmur prisoners and for all the innocent and the weak victims of the hate and racism of the mafia.
Again, ALI tells us of how his father has been helping people in Syria. This is the most retarded view of how a country ought to run with favors being dolled out to the slaves as an indication of some functionary’s professionalism and performance and in clear acquiescence of the total absence of the rule of law. What if he is releasing criminals for money or sexual favors?
Justice for Hamza.
December 3rd, 2012, 12:07 am
ann said:
Syrian TV displays bodies of 21 Lebanese fighters killed in border region – 2012-12-02
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-12/02/c_132014281.htm
DAMASCUS, Dec. 2 (Xinhua) — Syria’s state-TV showed Sunday images of 21 killed Lebanese Islamist fighters, who were ambushed last week while trying to infiltrate into Syria.
The state-TV aired the footage showing the dead bodies of the 21 Lebanese fighters that were ambushed by the Syrian army near the Syrian border town of Talkalakh Thursday afternoon.
The bodies appeared tossed on the ground streaked with blood as their identity documentations were placed on each body.
The TV said the Lebanese fighters were ambushed with the help of locals from Talkalakh, adding that those fighters came from the Lebanese border town of Wadi Khalid, which has emerged as a main smuggling route of fighters and weapons into Syria.
A Lebanese TV said recently that those fighters were Islamists from the Lebanese city of Tripoli, which is a stronghold for Salafi hardliners.
On Thursday, a Lebanese security source confirmed to Xinhua that those militants belong to an extremist Islamist group, among whom are two sons of Bab el Tebbaneh Mosque’s Imam Sheikh Mahmoud Srour.
After the ambush, tension rose in Tripoli and shops were closed as a precaution to avoid being caught in the expected security deterioration in the region.
[…]
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-12/02/c_132014281.htm
December 3rd, 2012, 12:08 am
ann said:
Lebanon’s Western-Backed “Future Movement” Caught Smuggling Weapons & Terrorists into Syria
Part of channel(s): 2011 Syrian uprising (current event)
This video contains two sections:
Section 1 (starts at 00:00):
OTV report about how Lebanon’s Future Movement (Tayyar al-Mustaqbal) led by former Prime Minister Saad Hariri is actively working on supplying weapons and ammunition to the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) terrorists and other groups fighting with them in Syria. It contains phone conversations showing how Lebanese MP Okab Sakr (in Future movement) is doing Hariri’s work by coordinating with FSA the shipment of weapons by following closely the situation in Syria and monitoring the needs of the different armed groups inside Syria for various types of weapons, including anti-aircraft and anti-tank artillery.
Section 2 (starts at 10:20):
Syrian TV footage of the 21 Lebanese hardline Salafi terrorists from Tripoli, Lebanon that were killed in a Syrian Army ambush as they were sneaking into Syria. The ambush took place in the border town of Tal Kalakh, where the town’s residents played an instrumental role in helping the Syrian Army with intelligence to set the trap.
It is worthy to note that Saad al-Hariri is a dual citizen of Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.
[…]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab2_1354484671
December 3rd, 2012, 12:14 am
Ghufran said:
????? ?????? ???????? ???? ??? ???? ???????? ???????? ?????? ??? ????????? ???? ??? ????? ??? ???? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??????? ????? “???????” ?????????? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??? ????? ????? ????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ??????? ???????? ???? ??? ?? ????? ????? “????? ??????” ???????.
Uqab lied a number of times on multiple TV interviews when he was asked about the nature of his missions in Turkey
December 3rd, 2012, 12:25 am
Visitor said:
A true brother of Syrians and their noble revolution, a brave, young and gifted Lebanese Arab, and a Shia that every Shia can feel proud of, openly and proudly declares his role in supporting the Noble Syrian Revolution,
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/03/253034.html
May Allah protect him and save him the fate of those who preceded him on this same path.
As he correctly and accurately puts it, the shame is upon those who deny the help for the people of Syria or worse on those who openly stand in support of their oppressors.
December 3rd, 2012, 12:31 am
ann said:
a large group of terrorists are dead and wounded in the fighting that engulfed a Damascus suburb, Darya *graphic*
according to official Syrian TV reports this is just the tip of the iceberg..
you have to remember that they don’t bury foreign terrorists.. and its virtually impossible to determine the number of terrorists that have crossed the border so far, given the great ground border covering a variety of terrain plus an across-the-border river that has been reportedly used to float terrorists and weapons across.
this operation is (Operation Iraqi Freedom) on steroids. we have the same elements plus a really uncooperative neighbors.
[…]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=262_1354450337
December 3rd, 2012, 12:32 am
ann said:
Darayya Allahu Akbar.. Allahu Akbar.. Allahu Akbar.. “BOOOOM” .. Allahu Akbar.. Allahu Akbar.. “BOOOOM” ..Allahu Akbar.. Darayya Allahu Akbar.. Allahu Akbar.. “BOOOOM” ..Allahu Akbar.. Allahu Akbar..
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f4_1354451432
December 3rd, 2012, 12:43 am
ann said:
Look at those bearded monsters!
just in case you were wondering what a 17 dead Lebanese terrorists look like!: this is a follow up to the news report i posted earlier *graphic*
and by the way, the Syrian authorities are raising the number to 21 terrorists in total…
also, the Syrian authorities recognize and appreciate the efforts of citizens, who where out at that time of the year to care for their olive crop, when they heard the news that “something” is coming. so they notified the authorities.
in this report the citizens give statements. their faces are visible on tv, which is unfortunate given the cowardly traditions of this terrorist band of killing people who cannot fight back. after this defeat they are likely to take revenge on unsuspecting citizens in Syria or Lebanon..
[…]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dbd_1354448993
December 3rd, 2012, 12:48 am
Syrian said:
One of my indicators that everything is well with the revelution is when ANN go on a posting binge, and especially when it start shouting Allahu akaber.
Something has really has ticked it off
December 3rd, 2012, 12:59 am
Syrian said:
One of my indicators that everything is well with the revelution is when ANN go on a posting binge, and especially when it start shouting Allahu akaber.
Something has really has ticked it off
December 3rd, 2012, 1:01 am
Jamil said:
The threat of cemical weapons can be delt effectively by Israeli missiles targeting the warehouses and bases where it is stored.
It would be costructive if a political support would be given to encourage the prevetive measures needed to destroy the capabilities of Assad to use it.
December 3rd, 2012, 1:10 am
Badr said:
Wondering why you can’t access the SANA website lately? No, it’s not because of the Syrian internet blackout.
US providers host Syrian government websites
December 3rd, 2012, 2:03 am
Mina said:
Arab Spring may take another 100 years
http://inanities.org/2012/12/uncle-morsi/
December 3rd, 2012, 4:16 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Clinton warns Assad over chemical weapons
http://dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2012/Dec-03/197006-strong-warning-to-assad-over-chemical-arms-clinton.ashx#axzz2DwpX7zOQ
December 3rd, 2012, 4:58 am
Visitor said:
More signs of a crumbling regime,
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/03/253096.html
Powerful businesses of the Syrian burgoisie fled Syria with their money to Cairo in last few days.
December 3rd, 2012, 6:55 am
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
14:17 Syria will “never, under any circumstances,” use chemical weapons against its own people, a Foreign Ministry official insisted on Monday.
__________________________________________________________________
Go ahead, destroy Syria to dust. That is all they wanted, a long, long civil war that destroy all of Syria, play the Zionist plot coward Shia. Ali, do something will ya. Don’t the idiots see what is the plan in the works.
December 3rd, 2012, 8:45 am
Jasmine said:
Our patient (Syria) is under new protocol of treatment,no one can predict the success of the new therapy ,but it looks like they are going to send our country to the palliative care very soon.
December 3rd, 2012, 8:53 am
Observer said:
Did ANN’s disappearence from the site coincide with the three days of internet blackout that Syria experienced?
If so it tells us that he/she is bound by the regime system or that the instructions from Syria have stopped for that time.
Justice for Hamza
December 3rd, 2012, 9:28 am
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
People of Homs blame Assad for Car Bomb
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/people-of-homs-blame-assad-for-car-bomb/
December 3rd, 2012, 9:30 am
Aldendeshe said:
All of Syria blame Assad. He is coward. WWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
He thinks by playing nice, he will get rewarded by the God on Earth SATAN, represented by the United Nation. He lost Syria, he lost Maher and did nothing to retaliate. I think someone within the armed force needs to do something about this guy, before it is too late.
I like to see Asma with those La Bottine shoes walking the streets of any Syrian town in a year, hopefully La Bottine did come up with army boots with spikes. Hopefully she will be alive to walk the bombed to dust streets of Syria.
December 3rd, 2012, 9:44 am
Visitor said:
SNP/AlDendeshe @116,
Isn’t the world supposed to end this December, Within a week or two??
Why are you thinking that far ahead into next year?
Are you not supposed to be in the Hamalaya boarding one of those arks? Did you not reserve a seat? Or have you forgotten?
Bashar and Asma are already on their way? Hurry and get a seat or you wouldn’t see next year!!
December 3rd, 2012, 9:59 am
Aldendeshe said:
NOP. That is the Rep*til*i^an plan, they will fail, well not they, but the system they created on earth for the past 12,000 years will end at that time. I trust in GOD plan of eternal life, the real god plan, not Ali, not Allah, not Yahweh and not Lucifer. The real creator, who dumped the tailed and horned lizard in Draco Constellation and he is about to teach humans a big lesson so they can evolve and know who Satan is, who the casted out angles are:
Revelation 12:9
And the great Dragon was cast down, that Chief Serpent, which is called The Devil and Satan, which deceives all The Earth, and it was cast down unto The Earth and its Angels were cast down with it.
December 3rd, 2012, 10:15 am
Nicolas92300 said:
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02-12-2012
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December 3rd, 2012, 10:18 am
Visitor said:
AlDendeshe @118,
Is your god, now, something like prometheus?
If not then what?
I hope you don’t change your mind again after the next movie comes out!!
December 3rd, 2012, 10:23 am
Aldendeshe said:
The date you are talking about is the cyclical date of the Zodiac age, we end the age of Pisces and enter the Age of Aquarius. It is the date marked by the passing of the 12 th. Planet in our solar system NIBIRU. Humans today, because of the Draco’s control, lost knowledge of this planet that maintains an elliptical orbit around the earth. It’s passing near to earth around this date may trigger Geophysical upheaval, but not end of the world. The last time it passed around it caused the Antarctic Ice shelf to collapse into the sea, causing the famed Noah flood and the drenching of the shielding canopy that protect earth from sun radiation. We have no canopy now that is why we no longer live 120 years as our genetic is programmed; radiation of the sun is the culprit. The Draco and Grey lives in subterranean habitat to protect them from this harm. I am not sure what geophysical effects this current passing will occur, I know we will have 7 years of draught, there are signs that the Atlantic Ocean sea bed has risen so far 3000’ in 3 month, this may trigger flooding eventually and possible huge tsunami in east Cost U.S. There are also sink holes in Ohio, Louisiana and other states that are expanding wider and deeper by the day.
There are so many geophysical anomalies happening all over the world, too long to list here, all are kept in secret. I am sure the U.S. Government knows from the Draco and other aliens what the approximate effect will be on the world and United States.
If the Antarctic ice shelf collapse toward the pacific, then I will be concerned, but do have a standby plan and ready within 5 minutes to escape to either 1200 ft elevation or 9600 feet elevation. If the title wave from the collapse to the Pacific is higher than 9600’, will then we will drown.
http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2012/10/east-coast-military-bases-being-evacuated-under-cover-of-darkness-confirmed-by-inside-sources-2448084.html
December 3rd, 2012, 10:38 am
Aldendeshe said:
@VISITOR,
I hope to never step down to your level of knowledge and intelligence, I rather then be a cat.
December 3rd, 2012, 10:41 am
Visitor said:
@121 AlDendeshe,
Being a cat may be your way out, especially “If the title[sic] wave from the collapse to the Pacific is higher than 9600’, will then we will drown. [sic]”
December 3rd, 2012, 10:51 am
Aldendeshe said:
prometheus = TITAN
December 3rd, 2012, 11:02 am
Visitor said:
@123 AlDendeshe,
So, you think we are manufactured?
What is the objective of the Maker Race?
And can we meet this race face to face?
December 3rd, 2012, 11:15 am
Aldendeshe said:
@VISITOR, you neen to get off ALCIDA drugs or ask them to lower dosage to a managble level so you can come here and talk like human with control of his faculty, I just don’t comprehend you at all.
December 3rd, 2012, 11:20 am
Visitor said:
@125 AlDendeshe
See 123 AlDendeshe,
Well then, how did you comprehend this?
prometheus = TITAN
Is it possible then that you imagine things? Possible cause: chronique case of disorderly evection?
Are you autistic by any chance?
December 3rd, 2012, 11:50 am
Aldendeshe said:
Are you autistic by any chance?
No, I just don’t spit on your Sharmootallah and neither his hakirs
December 3rd, 2012, 12:03 pm
Visitor said:
Did Jihad defect or was he fired?
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/03/253155.html
May be Ali did not like his name? Then that must be Ali’s first ‘success’ since he showed up here on SC!!!
December 3rd, 2012, 12:36 pm
Syrialover said:
SYRIAN and OBSERVER,
The posting by “ANN” in # 106 appears to be by a different person than usually posts under that name (or acronym).
Indication again that it’s a team.
And a reminder to everyone that clicking on any links provided by “ANN” could give you a virus.
December 3rd, 2012, 1:31 pm
annie said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpWyqjDRZ74&feature=colike
Their courage and bravery is inexhaustible. Love you shabab !
December 3rd, 2012, 1:43 pm
annie said:
CONFIRMED: Jihad Makdissi, Syrian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson has defected from his position #Syria
December 3rd, 2012, 1:47 pm
Visitor said:
Agree #106 is a different ‘ANN’. The real ‘ANN’ we all know has a one-sentence-max authentic commentary capability.
Observer made a good observation. ANN is possibly located in Damascus.
Today UN suspended its Syria operations.
FSA controls the Jordanian borders.
December 3rd, 2012, 1:47 pm
5 dancing shlomos said:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/working-hand-in-glove-with-us-state-department-hacking-network-anonymous-declares-cyber-war-on-syria/5313768
“Working Hand in Glove with US State Department? Hacking Network Anonymous declares Cyber War on Syria By Russia Today
Global Research, December 02, 2012
Anonymous –which is affiliated to the Occupy Movement– is not an NGO. It is an instrument of the US government acting covertly in the hacking of Syrian government websites. This attack follows earlier cyber attacks in 2011 directed against Iran and Syria.
The US and its allies are preparing to wage war on Syria under a NATO R2P “humanitarian” mandate. The actions led by Anonymous (which are upheld in the name of civil society and democracy) are coordinated with those of the US and its allies, with a view to closing down Syria’s communications network including the internet and telephone.
Anonymous have said they will shut down the Syrian governments websites around the world in response to Syria’s internet blackout. For the second day all internet services, mobile phones and many fixed line phones are out of action.
A tweet on Friday from the group read, “Government of Syria cuts country’s internet access – anonymous goes on warpath.”
Anonymous quickly called their campaign Opsyria. At 02:00 am GMT on Friday they started removing all the Syrian government’s internet properties that remained online, after the country’s Web access was severed, they also targeted domains ran by pro-government sympathizers.
Some of the Syrian organizations and companies that have been hacked by Anonymous include Syrian Railways, the Syrian parliament, Syrian TV and the Syrian Embassy in China.
The hackers also managed to download 1GB of confidential memos and emails from the Syrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs including details about plane loads of cash from Russia and arms from Ukraine, which they have uploaded for public viewing.
Hacking by pro Syrian regime forces – who had previously targeted Al Jazeera and Reuters – has dried up in the last few days presumably because of the Syrian internet blackout, Security Week, an online internet security journal, reports. Although, it is not possible to verify many of these claims because of the internet blackout.”
December 3rd, 2012, 1:58 pm
ALI said:
Another rat jumps the ship, “Jihad Makdissi” you will regret.
The longer the situation the better the sorting
December 3rd, 2012, 2:35 pm
Syrialover said:
The Assad freak show is going to get crazier.
The rat run of pretty boy Syrian Foreign Ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi probably means we’ll see more of the world’s ugliest witch Bouthaina Shaaban and world’s most non-respectable Foreign Minister Walid Moallam.
But I am getting a big laugh out of the spin about why he is now fleeing for his life, sorry, I mean being sacked for his high principles in standing up to the regime about the “unbearable scale” of “falsified information” he was expected to deliver.
Whatever rubbish Makdissi tries to spout now, the FACT is he has been a very important part of the regime’s public campaign,a campaign directed mainly at deluding and reassuring itself.
EXCERPT:
Makdissi, who belongs to Syria’s Christian minority, staunchly defended Assad’s crackdown on the 20-month revolt against five decades of autocratic rule by Assad and his late father.
He often spoke at news conferences in Damascus to set out Syria’s response to the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad but was rarely seen in the media in recent weeks, raising speculation that he may have defected.
A former diplomat, Makdissi is fluent in English, a rarity in the state apparatus shaped by xenophobic Baath Party ideology. But he had little influence in a system underpinned by the security apparatus in which the foreign ministry has no say.
Asaad Mustafa, a former agriculture minister, told Al Arabiya that Makdissi was expected to defect because “the scale of falsified information he was asked to report was unbearable.”
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/03/253157.html
December 3rd, 2012, 2:40 pm
ALI said:
Annie:
We knew that since he has gone missing 48 hours ago, he used a unicef relief aid passport under a name “Tony Milad” and departed from Beirut.
December 3rd, 2012, 2:41 pm
Citizen said:
“Western Leaders Are Encouraging Terrorist Blood Bath in Syria” says Henningsen
21st Century Wire’s analyst Patrick Henningsen talks with RT News about the West and their Gulf state proxies’ backing of terrorist groups in Syria in order to accelerate regime change in Syria and to further destabilize the Middle East region. Washington and Britain are actively supporting al Qaeda and other FSA-related foreign fighters in Syria, a policy which is an international war crime and is costing thousands of innocent lives, and billions of dollars to western taxpayers and to the people in Syria.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnPgB9IVHM
http://21stcenturywire.com/2012/12/03/western-leaders-are-encouraging-terrorist-blood-bath-in-syria-says-henningsen/
December 3rd, 2012, 2:45 pm
Visitor said:
Hey, lov-u-gang, have you given up?
We can lend you hand with few suggestions to keep you in the game a little longer. It’ll be sooooooo lonely here if you just disappear all of a sudden!!!
Here is a suggestion for you to keep up with hard times. You could start by trying Leona Lewis:
“But I don’t care what they say, I’m in love with you
They try to pull me away but they don’t know the truth
My heart’s crippled by the vein that I keep on closing”
December 3rd, 2012, 2:49 pm
Citizen said:
Qatar’s French Connection: Cash flow fuels extremism fears
December 3rd, 2012, 2:55 pm
ALI said:
“But I don’t care what they say, I’m in love with you
They try to pull me away but they don’t know the truth
My heart’s crippled by the vein that I keep on closing”
RIP Hafiz
December 3rd, 2012, 2:55 pm
Aldendeshe said:
CONFIRMED: Bashar Assad, Syria President has defected from the position Khaddam appointed him in Syria 13 years ago. He is now on his way to one of his London mansions. NOW WHAT!!! LOL.. Bad news for the genocidal criminals, on what account now they will keep on destroying Syria? And what is next, how the World’s scam artists, Zionists owned countries are going to appoint the 3 stooges they selected and recognized to protect own oil and gas interests when the Syrians will not even allow them in the country?
December 3rd, 2012, 2:56 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
JIHAD MAQDISI
He is nimble, he can jump, Muallem is fat and clumsy,he can not jump.he can roll over.
It is hard to accept him in the opposition , just like Manaf Tlass, but as a christian he is welcome, come on Norman,it is time to jump.
The united nations close its work in Syria, and EU did the same, they must anticipate something.
the exit to Jordan is easier now,that FSA control one border center.
December 3rd, 2012, 3:00 pm
Aldendeshe said:
@ALI
“The longer the situation the better the sorting”
__________________________________________________________________
Looks like by next year the Baath Party would be pretty clean one. After all the Sunni “Murtazaka” fled.
December 3rd, 2012, 3:03 pm
ALI said:
?? ???? ????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? ? ???? ?????
December 3rd, 2012, 3:04 pm
ALI said:
“Looks like by next year the Baath Party would be pretty clean one. After all the Sunni “Murtazaka” fled”
I agree all those double faced rats are surfacing which is quite good.
I don’t think it’ll take another year, after the meeting there’s more serious understanding of how to handle things and for the first time there’s some strategy in place.
December 3rd, 2012, 3:06 pm
Friend in America said:
#106 and 132:
ANN is a team working in the Ministry of Information in Damascus. One team member searches western sites for articles hostile to the west (and posible intelligence information inadvertantly disclosed). Another does the same covering Israel and other ME countries. This person posted glowing messages about Turkey and its friendship with Assad. Then the polictical winds changed and there was an abrut aboutface. Turkey became the demon. Quick changes in politics takes the clothes off the propagandist.
There was a third who watches for Syrians in this site and occasionally sent warnings but now the scope of government agents is so limited, the danger has reduced. Ann’s posting are worthy of reading to learn what the government is worried about or what propaganda the government is manufacturing but noting more.
December 3rd, 2012, 3:07 pm
ALI said:
Friend in America:
” team working in the Ministry of Information in Damascus”
Wrong
This team belongs to branch 225, and they are based on the second story of a building belongs to the ministry of Communications and Technology in Almuhajeern used to be known as Maqsam Internet.
Four years ago the general secret-service directorate (Idaret Mukhaabrt Alameh) recruited a team of “S3aleek Elinternet, or Internet Tramps) I swear that’s exactly the term “S3aleek” I heard and read in an office.
December 3rd, 2012, 3:31 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Sure hope some of the Sunni Murtazaka stays around, too clean of a Baath Party will be tough to compete with for SNP.
December 3rd, 2012, 3:32 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Intenet Tramps.. LOL… they are called HASBARA in Israel, which basically means Tramps as well, and we got couple dozen of them in here. My favorite the ones that uses SYRIAN in the name. How inginious, They don’t even know where Damasus is located.
December 3rd, 2012, 3:37 pm
ALI said:
“hey are called HASBARA in Israel, which basically means Tramps as well, and we got couple dozen of them in here”
Agreed.
They stopped posting much on this blog in the last three weeks as they were allocated to focus on other blogs with more Palestine focus during the battle to win the statehood birth certificate.
December 3rd, 2012, 3:51 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Someone ought to start new business venture for Soda drink marketing franchise in Qatar, Lebanon and Mecca (seasonal market). It is new refreshing Soda formula with zero calories; it is sold under the brand VX Power Drink.
December 3rd, 2012, 3:57 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Ok, I will write up the ad campaign for it, somethink like “One refreshig sip, and then the video will show 72 young virgin nude next to the drink. Got it, it is what ya call it, sublminal advertising. LOL….. You would sell every man in Arabia a six pack on the first week. Beter catchy motto is VX Camel Power Drink
December 3rd, 2012, 4:00 pm
Citizen said:
Kou Kou !
Turkey asks Gazprom to increase gas supply by 3 BCM a year, supply route being discussed (Part 2)
ISTANBUL. Dec 3 (Interfax) – Turkey has asked Russia to increase gas supplies under the existing contract by 3 billion cubic meters a year, Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak has told reporters in Istanbul.
“Turkey has requested an additional 3 billion cubic meters per year,” he said.
Choosing an optimal route for the increased supply is important, he said.
“There are two options here: either expanding the Blue Stream capacity, and Gazprom (RTS: GAZP) will the look into technical opportunities for the increase, or using the South Stream, in other words, the project will envisage a supply increase through a backup corridor,” the minister explained.
The issue is only just being discussed with no decisions made so far, he said.
Turkey’s gas market has been steadily growing. The country is currently importing more Russian gas than Italy and is Russia’s second largest gas importer. In 2011, Turkey imported 26 billion cubic meters of Russian gas, according to Gazprom.
http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=379822
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Russia will be happy if Turkey wants to join the Customs Union
http://ria.ru/economy/20121203/913270281.html
December 3rd, 2012, 4:08 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Just make the C in Camel big like a moon crescent and put 2 dots over V and that will make it marketable in Turkey.
December 3rd, 2012, 4:10 pm
Visitor said:
So now we learned that Ali is a Tramp and the only one assigned to SyriaComment after restructuring branch 225 three weeks ago due to budgetary constraints, perhaps because of the loss of the oil fields, the Tishrin dam, the countless airports and the fleeing of all the businesses from Damascus to Cairo, Dubai or Ashrafiyeh, Beirut.
Keep on coming man and there will be more like Leona Lewis and even better.
Yil3an ro7hak ya Hafiz.
December 3rd, 2012, 4:11 pm
Syrialover said:
ALI comes across as a real person. All those other pro-Assadists who have come and gone here couldn’t manage that.
And I respect him for coming back here, despite knowing he’ll get pounded with information to correct his thinking and counselling on his attitude.
He is wrestling with rough realities both here online and out there in the world.
I’ve come to like ALI enough to wish him adjustment, acceptance of reality and awareness in the future.
December 3rd, 2012, 4:14 pm
Syrialover said:
#146 FRIEND IN AMERICA
Very interesting observations being made about “ANN”
Though somewhere in that team is a real life American who got careless using the first person and making election comments.
CITIZEN is picking up some of the cut and paste slack for “ANN”. I wonder what has happened to JAD, IRRITATED, BRONCO and some of the other anti-revolution cyber warriors.
December 3rd, 2012, 4:23 pm
ALI said:
Syrialover:
Thanks again.
I’m here in a mission to convince all (or most) of you of how things happening in reality in Syria. I was really happy to find this website.
I might be useful sometimes so feel free to ask any question relating to the other side of the situation and I’ll do my best to get the answers for you.
I take the insult from many bloggers on this website as a sign of frustration which is totally understandable.
December 3rd, 2012, 4:27 pm
ALI said:
“So now we learned that Ali is a Tramp”
I don’t do this low class jobs
“assigned to SyriaComment after restructuring branch 225 three weeks ago”
Wrong there was no restructuring whatsoever in security directorate.
“Yil3an ro7hak ya Hafiz”
I have programmed my mind to read it as “Teslam ro7hak ya Hafiz” so no problem to keep saying it if makes you feel better.
December 3rd, 2012, 4:32 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
Russian foreign minister fractures wrist in ?stanbul
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-300102-russian-foreign-minister-fractures-wrist-in-istanbul.html
Someone please tell Lavrov to watch his steps!
Well, it looks like Russia is busy strengthening economic ties with Turkey. Batta must be feeling great!
December 3rd, 2012, 4:32 pm
Visitor said:
“I don’t do this low class jobs”
So now we know that Ali has an image problem.
“I have programmed my mind to read it as “Yil3an ro7hak ya Hafiz”
So now we know that Ali has been programmed like a robot in order to keep his low class job at 225 and keep us entertained here at SC.
December 3rd, 2012, 4:48 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
Laugh alert!
If you have a heart condition, you are advised not to watch the interview linked to below. You might end up laughing too hard for your own good.
Here is one of the “trumpets” of the Syrian mafia commenting on the alleged defection of Makdisi. In it, the “trumpet” Ahmad Haj Ali tells the audience that Majdisi had been arrested in the UK some years back for stealing £2,000 and spent some time in jail. I am not joking. Now we now what it takes to be a member of the mafia. Looking forward to see the minhibakites on this blog spin the defection or departure of Makdisi. Supporters of dignity and freedom, prepare yourselves for a hard laugh.
????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTR0IVlbaw
Here’s a link to a SC article from 2008 featuring the infamous Makdisi.
https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=1365&cp=all
December 3rd, 2012, 4:49 pm
Visitor said:
SYR.EXPAT @160,
Looks like an arm wresling match beteen Davudoglo and Lavrov??
1 – 0 to Turkey???
December 3rd, 2012, 5:18 pm
MarigoldRan said:
I guess the lies were too much for Makdissi.
That’s kind of funny. He was the guy that would go in front of the UN and say things like, “Syria is being attacked by terrorists,” and “we don’t commit human rights abuses.” Guess he finally had enough of that.
Will the regime replace him at the UN? Or are they even going to bother? At this point anyone they send out of the country is suspect for defection.
December 3rd, 2012, 5:24 pm
William Scott Scherk said:
Regarding a double or collective identity for the SC account “ANN” — if you do not click her links to LiveLeaks you will not know that she copies the text from her links. Her post above in reasonably coherent English is borrowed 100%.
She does give attribution for her copying.
ANN pays a heavy price in her real life for the gung-ho warmongering illiteracy and bigotry, I bet. The relish with which she selects images and videos of blood and destruction is a clue that this is not a person to be invited to the reconciliation table, except perhaps as an example of American Assadist Hysteria that must be pushed past with gritted teeth.
In the meantime, I have no opinions on other people’s spiritual beliefs. Whatever gets you through the night intact and help explain the lizards in your garden and your own moral superiority in every way.
But I find it ironic that the only leader of the Syrian National Party chides others for their belief systems or adherence. It is a testament to the virtues of religious tolerance that Aldendeshe has been able to be so successful in the West, where you can believe and practice as you wish if you do no actual harm to another …
If the defection of Jihad Maqdissi is confirmed, this will be an interesting development. Will he speak out? How long before a charge is laid before him at the new special Terrorist Court?
Kudos to Sheila and Syrialover for speaking plainly against bigotry and hate language. The attacks on other people’s religious identity (including the Alawi) are repugnant to me. To assign the Kuffar label to a whole people is the path of ethnic slaughter and madness. It shames the person who utters the words of demonization.
December 3rd, 2012, 5:28 pm
Citizen said:
op abama? style !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Romney nyeeettttttt !
December 3rd, 2012, 5:30 pm
ALI said:
************* Open Letter to Aboud *********
Dear Amjad (a.k.a Aboud):
I have read your story by Amal Hanano (http://alpha.syriadeeply.org/syrian-stories/)
First of all, please accept my deep condolences for loosing your father in such a horrific tragedy, I feel sad and angry believe it or not, and for some reason I feel connected to you.
I always knew that we’re different in our thoughts, but never crossed my mind that you’re still there in Homs under fire doing what you believe is right. I respect that you did not carry a machine gun to avenge all those people you lost, and I’m proud of you for carrying a camera and pen instead.
Aboud, you’re such a heroic journalist as simple as that coming from a mouth of a Qurdahan as you like to call us. I’m going through all these confusing and mixed feelings now, I know I’m your enemy and I know you’re waiting for the moment to kill me, but now I respect you. You made your dad and friends (who I unconditionally call them martyrs) proud.
Your story has changed me somehow, I don’t know how or to what degree but I know you touched something deep inside me. I have no other words to compensate your loss, but now at least I understand your anger and I shall take all your comments and insult from now on with open heart.
I could not believe it when I saw your photo from the back, such a young man, tbh I didn’t expect that. I thought you’re a blogger somewhere in Europe enjoying a glass of wine and beautiful girlfriend while you’re commenting here and there. I was wrong and I apologize for that. You’re different to anyone of us here on this blog, we’re all fake in comparison to you.
I don’t know why you decided to change your name or claim a new different place of residence, I’m sure you have your own reasons which I don’t need to know. But Aboud the son of Homs will be always a reminder for me.
RIP all martyrs of Syria
With Peace
Ali the Qurdahan
December 3rd, 2012, 5:32 pm
Syrialover said:
ALI wrote in #158:
“I’m here in a mission to convince all (or most) of you of how things happening in reality in Syria. I was really happy to find this website.
“I might be useful sometimes so feel free to ask any question relating to the other side of the situation and I’ll do my best to get the answers for you.”
Maybe I’m naive, but he sounds like a real person to me. He’s on a mirror mission to many here, except on the wrong side of the fence.
This sort of discussion (my perspective Vs your perspective) would probably be a necessary starting point for rescuing something out of the rubble and re-humanizing Syrians.
That or more killing and burning the country post-Assad.
December 3rd, 2012, 5:54 pm
Aldendeshe said:
@WSC
If you to ever read my posts all way back from 8 years posting here, you will see that I am the most open minded person on earth. Just don’t shove your crap on me, let me make my own mind, respect my thought and I will afford you the same respect. Transgress, and I will put you in place. I did not survive on my own in foreign land, dealing with fighters of all sorts being a wimp or turning the other cheek.
And never expect from me to hide the truth, when such is detrimental to human progress and their mission on earth. So what do want, let me guess, toe the official line, the church line, the Academia line, what CNN and Fox news says it is right? And you call that freedom.
December 3rd, 2012, 5:59 pm
Visitor said:
Despite my few differences with AlDendeshe and even though he sometimes calls me names, I still attest to him being the most authentic contributor here on SC. I am only here less than a year and I can only speak about this period. I always find him intriguing and he never fails to add humor to his posts.
I also found that WSS, despite his careful composition and style, is fake due to his continued lecturing. He never fails to condescend and to lecture others thinking that somehow he possesses capabilities that others do not have and are badly in need fo his guidance. Given the free spirit and authenticity of Dendeshe and what WSS stands for, the choice one has to make is quite obvious.
December 3rd, 2012, 6:39 pm
Sami said:
No disrespect to Amjad but he is NOT the Aboud in Amal’s piece, one has and continues to risk his life to capture the horror reality that is Homs, while the other torments minhebaks into seeing him everywhere…
December 3rd, 2012, 7:31 pm
William Scott Scherk said:
ALI, Amal Hanano has read your commentary above. Here is what she wrote on Twitter:
— though the Aboud in the story is not the same Aboud/Amjad we know here at Syria Comment, it is good to know that Syria can produce writers of such power and empathy.
The officialized news (al-Manar Television) now being disseminated says that Maqdissi was relieved of his duties … and AFP quotes a ‘close friend’ of the spokeman saying he is “taking a break” … SANA, currently without a web host, has yet to offer any explanation for the departure.
I suspect Maqdissi will say nothing about his sacking or the presumed ‘break’ — he will be silent. What could he say?
December 3rd, 2012, 7:34 pm
Sheila said:
Dear visitor,
Even though you an I are on the same side and would like nothing more than to see the end of this regime, yet we are worlds apart. I think you see things more in black and white and I see them in many shades of gray. You have certainties, while I have doubts. I feel like this difference between us is going to define the next struggle in Syria: the battle between reason and conviction. I wish you the same enlightenment that our forefathers enjoyed at the height of the Islamic Empire.
December 3rd, 2012, 8:02 pm
Tara said:
The UN is evacuating almost all staff from Syria afraid for their safety in case the regime uses chemical weapons. What does that make of Ibrahimi’s plan? Dead on arrival? If Bashar uses chemicals weapons against Syrians, would Mnhebaks on this site continue to defend him? I bet they will. With a clear conscience? I think they will make up a conscience that fits their “mnhebak’s needs”.
Turkish officials told the Guardian they have credible evidence that if the Syrian government’s aerial bombardment against opposition-held areas fails to hold the rebels back, Bashar al-Assad’s regime may resort to missiles and chemical weapons in a desperate bid to survive.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/03/un-withdraw-nonessential-staff-syria
The United Nations is preparing to evacuate all non-essential staff from Syria, citing the “prevailing security situation” amid growing fears in Washington that the beleaguered regime is considering using chemical weapons.
The European Union also announced it was cutting back its activities in the country and on a fast-moving day of diplomatic and military action the Syrian government’s foreign ministry spokesman, Jihad Makdissi, was reported to have defected.
The UN’s undersecretary for safety and security, Gregory Starr, announced that the organisation had also cancelled all missions to Syria from abroad and suspended its activities inside the war-ravaged country. The decision marks the final step before a full-scale evacuation, a move that has not been ordered at any point during Syria’s steady descent into chaos over the past 20 months.
….
December 3rd, 2012, 8:06 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
# 165 wsc
Please let me say something about you, You seem to be raised in a country that demonise Islam,and that influenced you, while you were moderator,you allowed comments that describe Islam as thugs, wahhabi or Salfist as terrorist, and you get mad calling the Alawis with their real name , original name, this I found very wrong of you,Today you call to respect other religion,what a contradiction!
and frankly ,you were not fair, Thank you for reading this comment.
December 3rd, 2012, 8:13 pm
Majedkhaldoun said:
Is it that If one side use chemical weapons, then the other side is justified to use chemical weapons? who will lose more?
I have no doubt that Assad will use chemical weapons,but US will prevent him from continue to do that.
December 3rd, 2012, 8:27 pm
Visitor said:
Sheila @173,
Thank you for the sentiment at the end of your comment. Even though it is best to start at the beginning, but I chose to highlight the positive first by jumping to the very end.
As to the beginning of your comment, I only have one thing to say. You know nothing about me.
However, I also do not know anything about you, as I never make any presumptions. This is perhaps the major difference between us.
So I leave it at that.
But as a postscript I have one more thing to say…
It never occurred to me that our forefathers, during the enlightened era, looked at conviction (their convictions, that is) and reason to be so diametrically opposed as you seem to imply. I always thought they considered their convictions to be in complete harmony with reason and wrote voluminous treatises to prove that. Just curious how they became so separated by you!!
December 3rd, 2012, 8:30 pm
Sheila said:
Dear Ali,
The story of Aboud is nothing but a drop in the sea of injustice and tyranny that the Syrian people were subjected to at the hands of the regime that is culminating in the current full scale assault on the entire country. When I say Syrians, I mean all Syrians whether Alawi, Sunni, Christian, Kurds, Druze or any other group. It is the story of Mustafa Khalifeh, the catholic, who spent 15 years in person subjected to all sorts of torture, because of a joke that he told. It is the story of my two cousins, one 14 and the other 17, who were thrown in prison in 1980 for the crime of enrolling in a karate class, to spend the next 20 years in Tadmor. It is the story of my mother’s friend, who comes from Hama, whose only boy, six at the time, begged her to go with her mother to Hama to spend Eid. When the army entered his grandma’s home, she hid him behind her back to protect him. The soldier pulled him from her grip and shot him dead on the spot.
These are but a few of Hafiz Alassad’s victims of whom you certainly are one. They have brainwashed you into accepting all these atrocities in the name of “protecting” your sect, while the only thing you are protecting is them and their interests. It is all about power and money, the rest of the Alawiis mean nothing to these thugs. They will sacrifice everyone to save themselves.
December 3rd, 2012, 8:41 pm
Sheila said:
Dear Visitor,
They were not by them and they certainly are not by me and this is precisely why I wished that for you too.
December 3rd, 2012, 8:47 pm
Visitor said:
Now back to branch 225,
Here’s some classified information for Ali to verify.
Mullah-stan has over 15000 military experts and technicians throughout Syria. True or false?
These experts control the backbone of security and military establishment of Assadistan.
These experts recently disengaged all ????? ???????? with the Syrian military except for only one left in Muhajereen. True to false.
These experts recently began disassembling advanced radar installations in preparation for moving it elsewhere, possibly Lebanon. True or false?
These experts recently began disassembling long range missile launchers in preparation for moving it elsewhere, possibly Lebanon. True or false.
December 3rd, 2012, 8:49 pm
Visitor said:
Sheila @179,
So what is the significance of 173?
December 3rd, 2012, 8:56 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
I wish people stop being condecending
December 3rd, 2012, 9:21 pm
Roland said:
Interesting how the fighters linked to Al-Qaeda are now freely acknowledged to be the bravest and most self-sacrificing of the troops on their side.
During the Iraq War, no American, least of all an establishment journalist such as Ignatius, would have ever dared to admit such a thing.
December 3rd, 2012, 9:55 pm
Visitor said:
Here’s a clarification to question in 181.
Claims to reason require a person’s realization of contradictions between and among statements.
Comments 173 and 179 are contradictory.
Admit the contradiction and resolve it in order to save reason.
The apparently sincere sentiment is still appreciated. However, sentiments are not good enough especially in times of revolutions and major transformations.
December 3rd, 2012, 10:05 pm
Ghufran said:
Too little too late,mr Kilo:
http://www.aawsat.com/leader.asp?section=3&issueno=12425&article=707287&state=true
Islamists who want a Talibani state in Syria can only be defeated by the same people those thugs are pretending to be defending: Syria’s Sunnis. Minorities will only have a future in the Middle East if the majority Sunnis reject the new Jahiliyyah promoted by the GCC pimps and their Takfiri fighters who want to take Syria back to the middle age in the name of toppling the regime.
( Maqdisi was not expelled,he was good for the regime, he like most educated Syrians who belong to the ” wrong” sect realized that this is a war the minorities can not win by force,and since Syria is now a country ruled by a criminal regime and armed thugs he had to go. Give most young Syrians,Sunnis or not, the option to emigrate and see how many of them stay).
December 3rd, 2012, 10:07 pm
Darryl said:
“91. SHEILA said:
Dear Dolly Buster,
Maybe we should let Allah decide who is or isn’t Kaffer. I do not think we humans have the ability to do that.”
Dear Sheila, but Allah of the Qur’an has decreed that I and Ali are Kuffar and you have become a kaffir based on the above statement. unless you are referring to another ALLAH who decides this, who will also receive the prayers of Qur’an Allah in Surat Al-AHzab (33) verse 43 and 56 when He prays on Muslims and the Messenger.
Any way this post may seem circular like your post in 179 🙂
December 3rd, 2012, 10:23 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Darryl
the Qur’an has decreed that I and Ali are Kuffar
So what? what does that mean,Kuffar means unbelievers of Islam,that is all.
All day today I hear about chemical weapons, I saw CNN program and several articles, I got the impression that Assad will surely use the chemical weapons, What is the position of Russia if Assad used the chemical weapons ? If it is used,I will blame Obama too, for not doing anything up till now.
December 3rd, 2012, 10:38 pm
Darryl said:
187. MAJEDKHALDOUN said:
“Darryl
the Qur’an has decreed that I and Ali are Kuffar
So what? what does that mean,Kuffar means unbelievers of Islam,that is all.”
Dear Majed, (can I call you Majed?) I appreciate you toning down the implication of being labeled a Kaffir but it does earn a person a death sentence in this life and afterward according to Islam. It is fortunate that Gustav Le Bon did not know this (this one for Tara 🙂 )
December 3rd, 2012, 11:09 pm
Aldendeshe said:
She is all over the U.S. internet, not bad. Comments are interesting too as if they are SNP posts: (No botox. all natural)
December 3rd, 2012, 11:11 pm
Ghufran said:
I talked before about the moment when NATO feels like the Syian army is weak enough and the country is fractured enough for NATO o jump in directly or indirectly, that moment is close now especially if the army loses more bases and rebels start to threaten Damascus, this new situation explains the sudden fever about chemical weapons, if those weapons are used ,or accusations of their use gain track , NATO will jump in, if they are not used but the media succeeds in creating a sense of urgency,NATO may also intervene, some elements for this scenario are not completed yet but I see that coming. Russia holds the key , if the Russians are given assurances they may very well give their back to the regime, Iran is a factor but it is not likely the Iranians will go against Russia, watch Putin, as of now he does not seem to have changed his mind,but I would not bet on Putin if I was Bashar, one likely scenario is an international occupying ( they will call it peace-keeping) force dominated by NATO but has other participants, that force,like it or not, may be necessary now, for the first time in 20 months I see myself looking at a closure for this dirty war, let us hope the medicine will not be worse than the disease, all depends on whether Putin plays along.
December 3rd, 2012, 11:23 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Dear Darryl
you said
but it does earn a person a death sentence in this life and afterward according to Islam.
You are absolutely wrong, this is outright lie, in Islam there is no coersion, in Islam there is a sourah it says you have your religion and we have our religion, we don’t worship what you do,and you don’t worship what we do, and in Islam it says DO NOT Initiate hostility,
Frequenly you said things about Islam which emanate from either you don’t understand Arabic or you are using someone else wrong interpretation, show me where in Quraan it says you kill the unbelievers, frequently the mistake is between kill(eqtel) and fight(qatel) if you were attacked, .
It is imperative that you learn Arabic and not translate things as YOU wish.
December 3rd, 2012, 11:24 pm
MarigoldRan said:
@Ghurfan
Agreed. The real civil war might begin AFTER Assad leaves.
It’s a shame. The Islamists who came to fight for the Sunnis deserve a share of power afterwards. But if the extremists will not compromise….
Assad’s presence keeps the different rebel groups united.
December 3rd, 2012, 11:27 pm
Ghufran said:
The UN’s undersecretary for safety and security, Gregory Starr, announced that the organisation had also cancelled all missions to Syria from abroad and suspended its activities inside the war-ravaged country. The decision marks the final step before a full-scale evacuation, a move that has not been ordered at any point during Syria’s steady descent into chaos over the past 20 months.
December 3rd, 2012, 11:54 pm
Darryl said:
191. MAJEDKHALDOUN said:
Ok Majed, thanks for pointing my errors. I assume you have a Qur’an that does not have Surat Al-Towbah. al-Anfal, gone verses like 3:85 and 58:22 etc. And when I see words “Iqtul”, “qatel” I will think of Suma wrestling or someone being hit with a pigeon feather.
December 3rd, 2012, 11:59 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Darryl
Tawbeh Sourah is about a war between the prophet and his enemy, it is about war it is not about peace time, and in it it says if there is a pact between you and them you do not fight them, ,also Tawbeh sourah is about the holly land only, you see you quote a word and take it out of contest,
I want to say something unrelated
debkafile’s sources quote high-ranking officers in the Israel Defense Forces’ Northern Command as saying: “The coming hours and days are extremely critical for Syria. The situation on our northern front could blow up any moment.” They did not elaborate.
Later Monday, as the United Nations regional humanitarian coordinator for Syria, Radhouane Nouicer announced the pullout of nonessential international staff “because of the security situation,” Secretary Clinton flew into Brussels from Prague to discuss with NATO foreign ministers the deployment of Patriot anti-missile batteries at 10 points on the Turkish-Syrian border – a massive number.
December 4th, 2012, 12:15 am
SYR.EXPAT said:
“And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.” The Third Book of Moses, Called Leviticus, 24: 16.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” Matthew 5:17.
December 4th, 2012, 12:21 am
Ghufran said:
??? ???? ???????? ???????? ????? ????? ????? ??????? ???????? ????? ?????? “?????????” ?????? ????? ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ????????? ???????? ?? ??????? ???????? ????? ????? ????? ??? ????.
????? ????? ??????? ????????? ??? ????? ?? ??????? ???????? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?? ???? ???? ?????????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????? ?? ???? ????? ????? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ????”.
Morsi my have had a deal with his western friends: I will do what you want outside Egypt if you let me do what I want inside it, I believe Morsi can only be stopped by the Egyptians.
December 4th, 2012, 12:29 am
Visitor said:
MajedKhaldoun @195,
The Debka files report is related to the deployment of Syrian military in the demilitarized zone which took place today for unknown reasons. The UN accused Syria of violating the rules of disengagement in the Golan because of that.
We need to find out what is the objective of the thug behind this sudden move.
December 4th, 2012, 12:45 am
Visitor said:
‘Ali’ 134 made good on ‘his’ threat to Jihad.
Jihad now is homeless,
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/04/253232.html
December 4th, 2012, 12:51 am
Amjad of Arabia said:
I am not the Aboud mentioned in Amal’s excellent article. That person is a far greater and better person than I am. After the shelling I endured in February I moved outside of Homs and then left Syria altogether.
When Syria is free, it will be Amal’s Aboud and others like him who will (hopefully) set the country’s destiny. For myself, I did what I could at the time, but it pales into insignificance when compared to the sacrifices others have made. Although I have had family members imprisoned, thankfully no one close to me has died, a miracle considering how large a group me and my cousins are.
December 4th, 2012, 1:09 am
William Scott Scherk said:
It’s hard to interpret these comments from the two Russians.
From the New York Times story cited above:
If any of this is true, and if there is no Plan B for the President, then the conflict will continue until the complete defeat and surrender of the SAA and the emptying of the throne of Syria.
Assad will have preserved nothing, and given safety to no one — his own community at risk, the toll of destruction immense.
For what?
My heart aches for the destruction of lives, for the grief and horror that stalks Syria, for the tortured and detained.
What use is it to squabble about which of the many gods is most triumphant or all-powerful? What use is it to tout this or that holy scripture? Evil reigns paramount in the Presidential palace, and only human beings can remove its stain.
December 4th, 2012, 1:21 am
Johannes de Silentio said:
201. William Scott Scherk
“What use is it to squabble about which of the many gods is most triumphant or all-powerful? What use is it to tout this or that holy scripture?”
Your words would have resonated in the 20th century. But unfortunately for you, this is the 21st, the age of religion again. Very soon, Christians will arm up, too. Hey, they have to defend themselves from another Armenia, yes? So strap yourself in, Monsieur Scherk. We’re all in for decades of religious war. God is angry…
December 4th, 2012, 2:59 am
annie said:
For news as it happens, twitter and yalla souriya (http://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/)
• robotnyck 9:36 am on December 4, 2012
Tags: #Aleppo ( 1,977 ), Bustan Al Qasr ( 25 ), civilians killed ( 100 ), massacre ( 352 ), shelling ( 1,839 )
03/02/2012 Bustan Al Qasr #Aleppo Massacre::
Nuff Silence ?@NuffSilence
The regime shelled residential buildings in Bustan Al Qasr neighborhood on Monday, causing a massacre: 52 dead, 178 injured. #Aleppo #Syria
Video of the massacre in Bustan Al Qasr – extremely graphic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHY9T_YtNzo … #Aleppo #Syria
#yallasouriya 8:57 am on December 4, 2012
Destruction in the Main Square of Deir Ezzor http://fb.me/vic33AZp
#yallasouriya 8:56 am on December 4, 2012
Local Coordination Committees in Syria
The number of martys in Syria on tuesday has risen to 16 martys, between them a child: 9 martys in Damascus and its suburbs, 8 of which were in Al-Haama; 4 martyrs in Dara; 3 martys in Homs
#yallasouriya 8:56 am on December 4, 2012
Damascus: Midan: Regime forces carry out an arbitrary… http://fb.me/1N5CQfGuA
#yallasouriya 8:56 am on December 4, 2012
NMSyria
Raid and arrest campaign being conducted in Midan by regime forces || #Damascus #Syrai
#yallasouriya 8:55 am on December 4, 2012
Brown_Moses
NEW – Sky News Arabic Misidentifies Weapons As SA-24 MANPADS http://brown-moses.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/sky-news-arabic-misidentifies-weapons.html
#yallasouriya 8:55 am on December 4, 2012
FadiSalem
If I tweeted every time sound of explosion/shelling heard in central Damascus yesterday, I would’ve had 25 more tweets in my timeline #Syria
#yallasouriya 8:54 am on December 4, 2012
Dara: Tafs: Heavy missile shelling targets the city. http://fb.me/NlWOvRfS
#yallasouriya 8:54 am on December 4, 2012
AlexCrawfordSky
#syria FSA say they take bridge next to Damascus Airport. Also the salt mine in Deir Azzour. Regime continue shelling Damascus suburbs
•
#yallasouriya 8:54 am on December 4, 2012
Some Aleppi divisions have announced the liberation of the military Menagh Airprot in Aleppo Reef
Ahmadmuaffaq
December 4th, 2012, 3:48 am
Mina said:
Saad al Hariri was monitoring Maarat al-Numan’s battle by phone… no wonder why with such strategists…
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/sakr-tapes-saad-hariri-syrian-battlefield
December 4th, 2012, 4:52 am
Albo said:
201 William you’re wasting your time with the last paragraph given the medieval religiosity prevailing here
I didn’t see anyone report it but an American diplomat confided to Georges Malbrunot that Northern Syria is more and more like the Ramadi region of Iraq in 2005-2006, that is a sanctuary for jihadists.
His estimate in mid-november was that in Halab, Jabhat Al-Nusra and Al-Tawheed accounted for a third of armed men, and even more in the countryside of Halab and Idleb.
So much for those who belittle the jihadist element of their “revolution”, not only the numbers are massive but everyone reports that they are doing the heavy lifting. Joshua quoted SL calling them “free riders”, but it’s impossible to describe their involvement as such, they and the rebellion are working hand in hand now.
Therefore Obama will make warnings about chemical weapons and all, but it is difficult to imagine him giving anything more than token support to the rebellion in the present situation, the real help will still come through unofficial channels and thanks to America’s proxies. But as Ignatius points out, the risks for a blowback are increasing and the situation may be heading to directions not exactly conducive to US interests.
December 4th, 2012, 5:50 am
Dolly Buster said:
Jabhat Nusra is better than the current government — whether you are muslim or not.
Shari’ah is easier on the human, than the man-made governments of Russia and Baath.
December 4th, 2012, 6:36 am
Albo said:
Good luck with Jabhat and co, they have done wonders in Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Mali, which of course are all better than Syria used to be. What nonsense.
December 4th, 2012, 8:15 am
Dolly Buster said:
So, the condition of Syria would deteriorate if there was Shari’ah instead of Asad bombing his own capital with Russian jets?
December 4th, 2012, 8:25 am
Albo said:
Deteriorate? When you have these groups let loose, it’s only a matter of time before other actors bomb Syria, just as in the countries I mentioned.
December 4th, 2012, 8:48 am
zoo said:
Is there backroom negotiations going on ahead of the
‘friends of Syria” on 12 dec? Why is Jihad Makdissi in London?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/world/middleeast/assad-syria-conflict-updates.html?_r=0&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1354629710-1wpD+Rb6KqaOSXhaTJsnXA
….
The latest reports followed developments on Monday when a senior Turkish official said that Russia had agreed to a new diplomatic approach to seek ways to persuade President Bashar al-Assad to relinquish power, a possible weakening in Russia’s steadfast support for the Syrian government.
December 4th, 2012, 9:12 am
zoo said:
Hello Dolly
We all LOVE Jabhat al Nusra to rule Syria! It is will be heaven and with Qatar’s money it’ll be an economically successful place. a magnet for people like you.
Any plan to move from Tel Aviv to Damascus?
December 4th, 2012, 9:16 am
Tara said:
Makdissi’s defection is puzzling? Got a conscience all of the sudden? Or perhaps got an inside information that Batta’s will eventually dump the regime and flee to….I hope Sudan.
I always imagined the first family splashing the Nile water, all of them wearing the head piece thing.
Makdissi
The Damascus house of foreign ministry spokesman Jihad Makdissi has been torched after reports of his defection, according to the Times of Israel citing Israel Radio.
An update from Ausama Monajed, a prominent member of the Syrian opposition, said the attack on the home in the Mazzeh district of the cioty was the Assad regime’s retaliation against his defection.
But activist Susan Ahmad, spokeswoman for the Revolutionary Council in Damascus, said there was no film or photograph of the home to back up the the “rumour”.
…..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/dec/04/syria-obama-chemical-weapons-warning-live#block-50be04ea95cbe872a5d4ea8f
December 4th, 2012, 9:21 am
zoo said:
As the power of the rebels is gradually shifting in the hands of Islamist and Al Qaeeda affiliates, Obama’s warning is directed more to the new coalition and to the FSA rebels militias than to the Syrian govt. Syria has no interest or intentions to use them, as it would be suicide.
The islamists whose aim is to ultimately attack Israel and Jordan are very interested in getting hold of the weapons. The new coalition is indirectly being warned that they should use whatever influence they have in the ground to stop any of such attempt.
It is also a warning to the FSA to oppose any such move from the islamists militias that they are associated with.
Any proven attempt will trigger an immediate reaction from the international community to prevent it, thus shifting the balance against the rebels.
December 4th, 2012, 9:29 am
AIG said:
Zoo,
I have not bothered to respond to any of your nonsense in the last weeks because it is not nice to mock a drowning person. But your post #213 shows that you are completely out of touch with reality.
There are many scenarios under which the Assad regime would use those weapons. For example, if it believed it was close to being toppled it would use the chemical weapons with the hope of getting NATO intervention to stop the fighting.It becomes a win-win for them. Either NATO does nothing, or NATO gets sucked into the conflict. Since Assad was about to lose anyway, neither scenario is bad for him. He will of course move all the top regime people to safety first and also claim that “rogue elements” in the regime did this and that he cannot be expected to control the WMD’s with the state Syria is in and it was all the West’s fault for helping the rebels weaken him.
But don’t worry, Israel is not going to wait very long before taking out the WMDs before Assad has a chance to use them. Everyone knows the game Assad is playing despite the pathetic warnings from the US and Europe who always have the knack to act after the fact if at all.
December 4th, 2012, 10:33 am
Visitor said:
So now we know after today’s bleating of the Ewe at his Zoo, that it was Assad after all who wanted all along NATO and other Western countries to send boots into Syria!!!
What can we do without incessant bleating of the Ewe species or the Goofy Palestinian @190??
December 4th, 2012, 10:53 am
Erin said:
” Al-Qaeda affiliate playing larger role in Syria rebellion”
for real this is the headline for December 2012!!!
Many of us said that for months since the presumed revolution went on!.
Assad Has been capturing, killing Radicals for years with the approval of the USA and the west.
It is now that he is a bad person for the West policy.
it is clear what Ghadafi told the arabs leaders that their day is coming next and he was one of the first to go after Saddam, is the GCC leaders are the next on the list.
I can’t wait to See radicals being killed in Syria by the american bombs, not only the russian ones.
yahoooooo!!!
December 4th, 2012, 11:11 am
ghufran said:
i rarely copy and paste posters comments but I had to do it on this post due to the significance of the subject,not the post or the poster:
“When Syria is free, it will be Amal’s Aboud and others like him who will (hopefully) set the country’s destiny”
indeed,because that statement is absolutely false people are worried sick about the direction of this revolution,look at Egypt and elsewhere and you will see that thugs and Islamists take over governments after bloody revolutions,not secular and educated patriots. one may be able to reason with the likes of abboud ,amal,etc but not the Islamist thugs who will be crowned by the GCC pimps and their western backers because the goal from day one was to turn Syria into a failed and dysfunctional state.
December 4th, 2012, 11:30 am
Visitor said:
Reuters just reported NATO endorsed deploying the Patriots along the Turkish border with Syria.
December 4th, 2012, 1:25 pm
Jasmine said:
Syria is now an Afghanistan on the make,just in a matter of time the American drones will be flying over its sky ,and what a better excuse they have: alqaeda are in Syria now.
What a surprise !!
They were exported from day one of the mess,just to make life easier for Israel and just to prepare the ground for resolving the Palestinian issue and wrap it well under the Egyptian wing.
After taking care of Syria,the next stop will be the GCC country and I hope that their leaders are not naive to think that they are immune for importing democracy and freedom to their own oppressed people.
It is time for the ME to enjoy medieval Islam mixed with freedom for women and minorities under the Sharia law.
December 4th, 2012, 1:42 pm
zoo said:
A fresh “victory” for the FSA
Syrian rebel attack on school kills 29: Report
Published on Tuesday December 04, 2012
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1297290–syrian-rebel-attack-on-school-kills-29-report
December 4th, 2012, 1:59 pm
erin said:
Jasmine!
what you just posted, is something excatly similar to what i wrote more than i year ago.
well done, I agree, many of the people who agree with us, have left this site, given it is becoming the spokes site for the Muslim brotherhood.
December 4th, 2012, 2:03 pm
Frend in America said:
Syrialover @ 157:
Same people, different names. 2 new ones are Erin and Jasmine.
December 4th, 2012, 2:13 pm
Syrialover said:
Opposition blames Syrian government for the attack on the school killing pupils on the outskirts of Damascus
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/deadly-mortar-fire-hits-syrian-school/2012/12/04/f812f368-3e3a-11e2-a2d9-822f58ac9fd5_story.html
December 4th, 2012, 2:21 pm
Syrialover said:
GHUFRAN #217 said:
“because the goal [of the west and the GCC] from day one was to turn Syria into a failed and dysfunctional state”
That’s an absurd and brain clogging thought that makes as much sense as blaming Bashar Assad’s vicious behavior on Asma’s over-expenditure on shoes.
Suggest you toss it out and leave room for clear thinking.
December 4th, 2012, 2:50 pm
MarigoldRan said:
The longer Assad stays in power, the less likely there will be a negotiated solution anytime soon, and the more the extremists will gain.
The regime’s actions have sidelined the moderates. If there are more extremists in Syria than before, that is a DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of the regime’s actions.
Put the blame where it belongs.
December 4th, 2012, 3:02 pm
MarigoldRan said:
@ Regime Supporters
Stop blaming other people for the regime’s mistakes. Many people and groups played a role in Syria’ unraveling, but the primary culprit is the regime.
December 4th, 2012, 3:04 pm
Richard said:
http://www.debka.com/article/22583/Assad%E2%80%99s-chemical-weapons-units-head-out-of-Damascus-toward-Aleppo
I don’t know if debka.com is a credible source, but sounds bad
December 4th, 2012, 4:14 pm
Citizen said:
Iran captures intruding US drone over Persian Gulf waters
http://presstv.com/detail/2012/12/04/276071/iran-captures-intruding-us-drone/
December 4th, 2012, 4:18 pm
AIG said:
Debka is a hoax and should be ignored. They invent news to attract eyeballs and sell ads. People in Aleppo should not be worried about WMDs.
The moment the WMDs leave their usual sites, they will be bombed. It takes time to prepare the WMDs for launch and if Assad does that, Israel will act.
December 4th, 2012, 4:19 pm
Citizen said:
228. AIG
Can you tell us in detail how Israel will act on because you say about this?
December 4th, 2012, 4:29 pm
Citizen said:
US threatens Syria with war over chemical weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ0MWv5wp9U
The civil war in Syria rages on and many lives have been lost in the conflict between the current regime and the anti-government rebels. According to reports, more and more jihadists are flooding the country to assist in overthrowing the current government and according to American intel, Syria is beefing up chemical weapons production to use on the rebel fighters. So are these reports true? Ahmed Fathi, Middle East analyst, brings us his take on what’s going on in Syria.
December 4th, 2012, 4:58 pm
Citizen said:
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http://ar.anna-news.info.ct201.ruswebs.ru/
December 4th, 2012, 5:14 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
Fresh from the web. Waiting for video confirmation.
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4-12-2012
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Translation by Google:
“??????????????????????????????????????????? Shri by the military junta to Damascus:
First: Abashrkm the Revolutionary Military Council of Damascus and its countryside
Complete control and the liberation of all of
– Air defense brigade 22 in East Gouta
– Air defense battalion in Mleha
We bring you the details and videos as soon as they are received, God willing
Revolutionary Military Council of the Damascus and its countryside
Information Office
04/12/2012
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Second: Confirm news Ordnah by controlling Aqraba military airport:
Revolutionary Military Council in the city of Damascus
The sake of the lives of our martyrs in the city Akrpau Darya and rural west and Syria in general. Announce junta revolutionary in the city of Damascus to control the airport Aqraba military cooperation and participation with other battalions operating in the region and seize everything inside of helicopters and weapons of and ammunition, and was In addition to capturing many of the soldiers.
And control of the airport after a full siege lasted for six days Champions line free from all military battalions and brigades great epic in unity and cooperation ..
Mercy to the martyrs of the editing process and all the martyrs of Syria
Damascus 4 \ 12 \ 2012
December 4th, 2012, 5:18 pm
Citizen said:
These idiots and thugs attacking their own syrians completely disgusting ! Uncle Sam and the Zionists tell them to attack someone like Gaddafi and they immediately do it like trained dogs fetching a newspaper. When Uncle Sam and the Zionists snap their fingers and order an attack on Asad they immediately go like trained seals to the battlefield.
Where were they when the Palestinians needed them to fight against zionists squatters trying to wipe the Palestinians off the map?
As in all things the mass of sheep will never wake up.
December 4th, 2012, 5:58 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Citizen, you do realize that in a Syrian civil war, BOTH SIDES OF THE CIVIL WAR ARE ATTACKING OTHER SYRIANS.
Do you understand? Is it your intention to call both sides, “idiots and thugs?” Or are you another one of those regime supporters who lack critical thinking skills?
December 4th, 2012, 6:02 pm
Citizen said:
29 Syrian students, a teacher killed in militant attack on school
http://presstv.com/detail/2012/12/04/276133/29-syrian-students-killed-by-militants/
December 4th, 2012, 6:11 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
yes Brigade 22, and AQraba military installations are both under FSA control. this will make it more likely that Damascus international airport will be soon under threat from the FSA all the time,,so Assad and his thugs will not be able to flee, and this means that the weapons that has been captured, will threaten Assad home..
Assad will try to use Chemical weapons, but some will be taken by the rebels and Assad home town will be under threat of these weapons and his generals will freak out and avoid the weapons use.
December 4th, 2012, 6:13 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
This is how close the FSA is to Damascus International Airport. The morale of the Batta thugs must be sky-high.
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In another location around Damascus, the FSA captures air-to-ground missiles that will come in handy in their next offensive.
December 4th, 2012, 6:52 pm
alepoinmyheart said:
FSA are on the door of nayrab aiport of aleppo and deir el zoor aiport, the military school is beeing attacked in aleppo too check arwa damon from CNN reporting live from the frontline.
Also battles near damascus international airport, the FSA need some push to broke the back of the regime.
By 31 december, the military map will totally change on the ground in syria
December 4th, 2012, 6:58 pm
Citizen said:
Who’s Lying? US denies Iran captured ScanEagle drone over Gulf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtEd-zPSFBM
Escobar: Patriot missiles, chem weapons hype aim to intimidate Syria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AixGqpLwKQ
‘Iran & Russia next NATO targets after Syria’
December 4th, 2012, 7:39 pm
Tara said:
The first opposition meeting with the Russians few weeks ago were with Hisham Shihada and Khaled Abboud, well known sycophants of the regime featured frequently on Arabyia and Aljazeera. All they needed to do is to remove their sycophant hat, wear an opposition hat, and fly to Russia. This is Syria al Assad for you. The country is rich by individuals capable of multitasking.
December 4th, 2012, 7:57 pm
Citizen said:
Jabhat al-Nusra and Other Terrorists Dominate Anti-Assad Fighters in Syria
December 4, 2012 • 9:48AM
There is a growing evidence that the Saudi- and Qatari-financed and Anglo-French-backed terrorist groups, such as Jabhat al Nusra are now in the forefront of terror attacks in Syria to unseat the Bashar al-Assad regime. David Enders wrote yesterday in his column for McClatchy Newspapers, that the al-Qaeda-linked group Jabhat al-Nusra which Syrian rebels once denied, is now admitted to have been key to anti-Assad victories, and “has become essential to the frontline operations of the rebels fighting to topple Assad.”
The prominence of Nusra in the rebel cause worries U.S. and other Western officials, who say its operations rely on the same people and tactics that fueled al-Qaeda in Iraq — an assertion that is borne out by interviews with Nusra members in Syria, Enders noted. “Not only does the group still conduct suicide bombings that have killed hundreds, but they’ve proved to be critical to the rebels’ military advance. In battle after battle across the country, Nusra and similar groups do the heaviest frontline fighting. Groups who call themselves the Free Syrian Army and report to military councils led by defected Syrian army officers move into the captured territory afterward.”
Britain’s Daily Telegraph today pointed out that the group has also attacked the government’s elite Air Force intelligence headquarters in Damascus, the state television building and security compounds in several of the capital’s central districts. Three car bombs targeting the Army officers club in Aleppo, which caused widespread destruction and killed more than 48 people, were later claimed by the group. “Foreign fighters, many of them veterans hardened by conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, were the first suicide bombers for Jabhat al-Nusra” the Telegraph noted.
The foreign fighters include Chechens, according to Mairbek Vatchagaev in an article with the Eurasia Daily Monitor: “The world press recently began to discuss the fact that some Chechens are involved in the uprising against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The number of Chechens fighting in Syria seems inconsequential. The involvement of Chechens, however, indicates that the Syrian conflict is about more than discontent on the part of Syrian Sunnis with the Alawite ruling minority.”
http://larouchepac.com/node/24697#.UL6dbAt_sII.twitter
December 4th, 2012, 8:14 pm
Ghufran said:
For over a year people have been predicting that the regime will fall,however, this chronic prediction may finally come true. I watched a video of rebels irresponsibly firing on passing civilian cars near the airport, that video illustrates the true fabric of rebels but it also shows that the regime lied when it claimed that the airport area was ” secure”. It is fairly possible that the battle will come soon to Damascus proper and then the coastal region, this may lead to the collapse of the regime and the state but not an end to the war , this outcome was only possible because fighting parties , supported by competing powers, refused to compromise, and western governments pushed through with an agenda that marginalized a large section of Syrians who were willing to sacrify Assad but not give their families and towns on a silver plate to armed thugs who are only interested in revenge and total domination, if that was not enough for some to help understand the dangerous and evil nature of this bloody war nothing else we can say will make a difference.
( Maqdisi is likely to show up in the US according to press reports)
December 4th, 2012, 8:26 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
We hear the pro Bashar say that they are fighting existentional war,in other word they will be slaughtered if they lose, the question is,have they not resorted to brutal security crackdown,would there be danger on their life ?, the answer is NO, they committed numerous crimes and those who committed crimes will be persecuted to achieve justice,and those who did not commit any crime they will never get hurt, and no revenge will be taken against them, they have nothing to fear.This revolution is led by people who fear God, not like Assad people who don’t fear God, In Islam it is clear we must commit to justice even from those whom we hate,this is what makes this religion very noble, we will never hurt woman,kid or old men,why? because we fear God,they don’t.
There is no collective punishment,( La Tazero Wazeraton wizra okhra).
December 4th, 2012, 8:30 pm
Citizen said:
Nigeria and Syria: Boko Haram, Al-Qaeda Islamists and a Distorted Civilizational War
http://www.aina.org/news/20121204191920.htm
The government of Syria is facing the brute force of international sponsored Islamism which is beheading minorities, doing daily car bombings, killing journalists and slaughtering anyone deemed to be a supporter of the secular government. At the same time Boko Haram in Nigeria is eulogizing the international jihadist movement and slaughtering Christians and Muslims deemed loyal to the government of Nigeria. This civilizational war should be straightforward but because of elites in London, Paris and Washington; then once more they are muddying everything by siding with al-Qaeda and other Islamist terrorist groups in Syria.
Recently in Nigeria another ten Christians had their throats slit by Islamists and clearly all roads lead to Boko Haram given the hallmarks of the attack. Of course, Nigeria is sadly blighted by ethnic and other issues which often results in violence. Yet, while these issues are disturbing by themselves they pale into comparison when viewing the threat of Boko Haram to the central state. After all, this Islamist organization continues to cause mayhem daily and clearly it views the Nigerian state to be worthy to be overthrown in order to introduce a draconian version of Islamic Sharia law.
Political elites in London, Paris and Washington continue to play “with the devil” by supporting Saudi Arabia and other Gulf state at all costs. Yet it is the petrodollars emanating from this region which is spreading radical Islamism far and wide. The disturbing reality is that this is a Salafist civilization war against mainstream Islam, African Islam, non-Muslims, secular nations, women and a world based on diversity.
The mass media which hoodwinked the world in the 1980s and early 1990s, with the notion of the “brave Islamic jihadists” fighting against communism in Afghanistan, is still eulogizing the terrorist opposition on the whole in Syria. Yet the “brave Islamic jihadists” who became unified under the CIA, ISI (Pakistan) and other covert agencies from the United Kingdom, turned out to be a nightmare. Once Islamists took power in Afghanistan they killed tens of thousands of Shia Muslims; shot women in national stadiums on the grounds of adultery (of course marrying young girls was fine based on their Saudi influenced based Islamic Sharia law); enforced women into slavery; began to destroy female schools; blew up ancient Buddhist heritage; and turned society into the “Islamic year zero.” Of course, for elites in Washington and London this was fine because their short-term objectives ambitions had been met. The real winner was Saudi Arabia which understands the foolishness of elites in London, Washington and Paris because Islamization was always the intended goal of political elites in Riyadh.
September 11 should have been a wake-up call for America and the entire world but instead it became forgotten in time. After all, the United States and other nations turned “a blind eye” to the Saudi Arabia angle of September 11. Therefore, recent events in Libya and Syria highlights that Washington, London and Paris are once more “in bed” with international jihadists in order to meet short-term ends. Of course, for political elites in Ankara, Riyadh, Doha and other nations in the Gulf, they have long-term objectives based on turning the Middle East, North Africa and parts of the Balkans into Islamist states based on “so-called puritan Salafi mind thoughts. Yet you have nothing puritanical about Salafi Islam or Saudi Arabia which continues to allow men between the ages of 18 to 80 to marry young girls aged 8 and 9 years of age. This hypocrisy runs throughout the Islamist worldview of destroying civilization based on ignorance, sexual subservience, dhimmitude, enslavement of others and creating laws based on hatred and power structures which will crush alternative thought patterns.
Syria is now fighting a civilizational war because this secular nation is an affront to Saudi Arabia and the supporters of Islamic jihad in Qatar and other nations. In Syria you have many religious communities and sects within Islam, Christianity and the Druze faith. This mixing of different faith groups and the rights of women is despised in Saudi Arabia because in this nation no non-Muslim places of worship are allowed and women are shackled, apart from the wealthy elites which can bypass the system based on privilege. Therefore, the wealthy monarchs which will not tolerate any power bases to their power in Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the same nations sponsoring Islamist terrorism against Syria. It is a convenient marriage for the ruling monarchs because by exporting Islamic jihad abroad they can maintain their control over society based on mass propaganda. However, “Islamist terrorism” is crushed at home while using the same Islamists to slaughter in Syria and other nations which meet their intended objectives. Of course this is also based on being given the green light from powerful nations like America, the United Kingdom, France and more recently Turkey………………..
December 4th, 2012, 8:32 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
The war will end when Assad and the regime fall in Damascus, just like Bashar brother Qaddafi, why would the pro Assad continue to fight? It is the head of the snake we need to cut, and no revenge from the innocent Alawis.
December 4th, 2012, 8:38 pm
Citizen said:
Christian Armenians Flee Syria
More than six thousand Christian Armenians from Syria have poured into Armenia in recent months, escaping the civil war back home. WSJ’s Joe Parkinson reports from Yerevan.
http://live.wsj.com/video/christian-armenians-flee-syria/65397FA8-6BDC-4569-89D3-CE96302BF43C.html#!65397FA8-6BDC-4569-89D3-CE96302BF43C
December 4th, 2012, 8:40 pm
Visitor said:
The importance of capturing the Damascus airport lies in it being the last supply route from Mullahstan to Assadistan.
Of course trapping the thug and his band of thugs in Damascus is also important. But eliminating the last supply route is of more importance.
Even if FSA destroys the airport, it wiill win in this case.
I expect an avalanche of defections in the coming weeks. The FSA must become selective in admitting defectors into its ranks from now on. Defectors must be screened, and some may have to be sent home.
Criteria need to be set for accepting defectors. Volunteer recruits from the civilian population at the moment are more beneficial and they can definitely be trained.
December 4th, 2012, 8:40 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
The Jews at it again…Israeli organ traffikers tageting Syria’s refugee camps:
December 4th, 2012, 8:57 pm
Citizen said:
U.S. might name Syrian rebel Nusra Front a foreign terrorist group
WASHINGTON — In an apparent bid to isolate Islamist extremists and bolster a new Western-backed Syrian opposition alliance, the United States is moving to declare one of the most effective Syrian rebel groups a foreign terrorist organization because of its alleged ties to al Qaida.
The State Department originally planned to add the Nusra Front – Jabhat al Nusra in Arabic – to its list of international terrorist groups this week, McClatchy learned. The announcement was postponed, however, as officials discussed how to get the maximum impact from the designation.
The designation now is likely just before the United States and its European and Arab allies meet with leaders of the new opposition alliance at a conference Dec. 12 in Morocco, where a significant aid package for the new alliance is expected to be announced.
The impact of the terrorist designation for Nusra, whose members have been at the forefront of many of the rebels’ most recent victories, remains unclear. Many rebel sympathizers said they were concerned that the designation would make it impossible for rebel groups to coordinate in their fight to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad.
“Many groups labeled by the administration as al Qaida are actually not. What is the reason the U.S. administration is considering it (Nusra) al Qaida? All of our focus is on getting rid of the Assad mafia. We welcome anyone in the fight against Assad,” said Radwan Ziadeh, the executive director of the Washington-based Syrian Center for Political and Strategic Studies. “We have had very, very little or no support from the United States. We got promises, promises.”
Nusra first made its mark by claiming responsibility for a series of car and suicide bombings in Damascus that killed dozens last January and that U.S. officials later said bore the mark of the group al Qaida in Iraq. Since then, Nusra has become essential to the rebels’ battlefield operations.
A McClatchy reporter who spent most of last month in rebel-held territory encountered Nusra fighters at several major clashes, including battles in Aleppo, the seizure of a border crossing at Ras al Ayn and the capture of an artillery base in the city of Mayadeen. The pattern appeared to be that the group and other jihadist units would capture territory, then turn it over to secular rebels who fight under the Free Syrian Army name. That type of coordination might be complicated by a terrorist designation, raising the specter of a scenario in which a U.S.-approved rebel group is working with a U.S.-labeled terrorist group.
U.S. law enacted after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks freezes the U.S. assets of individuals or groups that are placed on the U.S. international terrorism list and prohibits American citizens and U.S. residents from making financial transactions with them.
The symbolism of the move may be more important, however, as the administration tries to build the credibility of the new opposition bloc, which replaced one that the United States and many Syrians viewed as dominated by exiles.
It also appears that the Obama administration is counting on the European Union to follow suit, thereby encouraging other governments to cut off funding and other support for the group and to isolate it politically.
Nusra members in Syria have told McClatchy that most of their funding comes from individuals in Saudi Arabia.
A Western European diplomat, who requested anonymity in order to discuss the issue candidly, said the European Union would designate Nusra as a terrorist organization if the United States did so.
“If they are put on the terrorism list by the United States, we will follow. They are part of al Qaida,” the diplomat said.
Asked for comment, State Department deputy spokesman Mark Toner said he had “nothing to announce on this.”
Experts and U.S. officials see the move against Nusra as a part of a U.S.-backed effort to strengthen the new National Coalition of Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces. The coalition, formed last month with Western and Arab support, is seeking international recognition as a government in waiting that would replace Assad’s embattled regime, should it fall, and guide Syria’s transition to democracy.
The coalition has struggled to bring under its command the rebel forces that are battling to end four decades of Assad family rule, including the loose amalgam of groups known as the Free Syrian Army.
Nusra and other groups have refused to accept the new coalition’s authority, however, fueling fears that they’ll also refuse to accept civilian rule should the rebels defeat the Assad regime, and will continue fighting for a Taliban-style Islamic state, a position Nusra leaders weren’t shy about voicing to a McClatchy reporter.
“Eighty percent of Syrians want Islamic law,” Iyad al Sheikh Mahmoud, the leader of a recently founded Jabhat al Nusra group in the central Syrian city of Qalat al Mudiq, said last week in explaining why he didn’t think that elections would be necessary if Assad falls.
Secular rebels have complained that the West’s hesitance to provide them with financial aid has fueled Nusra’s success.
“The strongest ones fighting now are the ones who have money,” said Abdullah Alsayed, a former Syrian army captain who led a rebel unit before coming to the United States in January. “All the money comes in from Saudi Arabia and Qatar and all the money goes to the Salafis and Islamists,” a reference to the religious conservatives who provide Nusra with its fighters.
Some experts warned that declaring Nusra a foreign terrorist organization was likely to hurt the anti-Assad uprising by fueling tensions between the group and other opposition units. The designation could disrupt the coordination behind recent rebel advances and even risk clashes among rebel groups.
“I’m not saying they aren’t a terrorist group. But given the circumstances and given their cooperation with the opposition as a whole, designating them now would be disastrous,” said Elizabeth O’Bagy, an analyst with the Institute for the Study of War who recently returned from touring rebel-held areas to research Nusra and other Islamist groups.
One major problem, analysts explained, is that the United States has little information that allows it to distinguish between the front’s hard core – including many foreigners – wedded to al Qaida’s vision of creating a state based on its rigid interpretation of Islam, and Syrians drawn to the group by its reputation of being the best armed, trained and disciplined rebel unit.
The best way of isolating the hard-liners is to allow other Syrian rebel groups to convince moderate fighters to defect from Nusra, according to O’Bagy, who said she thought that process was already under way……
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/12/04/176389/us-might-name-syrian-rebel-nusra.html
December 4th, 2012, 9:09 pm
AJ said:
Anyone knows where Hafez`s grave is located at? I know some people who want to pay their “respect”
December 4th, 2012, 9:09 pm
Ghufran said:
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According to Communiqué, a Columbia student newspaper, Miss Jaafari withdrew her application and is now quietly studying at The New School of Social Research, a small university in Manhattan. “I came here to remain anonymous and to not be disturbed,” she told the newspaper.
(Ms Jaafari and her dad lives in a $ 5 million house that was once owned by Richard Nixon)
December 4th, 2012, 9:50 pm
MarigoldRan said:
And best of luck to her. A shame she had to leave Columbia.
Just because the regime is evil doesn’t mean all the people in it are evil.
December 4th, 2012, 9:58 pm
zoo said:
Morsi flee like a rabbit… next stop: the planet of the apes
Egypt’s Morsi flees palace after protesters break through police lines
Bradley Hope
Dec 5, 2012
CAIRO // Mohammed Morsi fled the presidential palace yesterday after protesters angry at his new powers broke past a security cordon while police fired tear gas to stop the situation from escalating.
Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/egypts-morsi-flees-palace-after-protesters-break-through-police-lines#ixzz2E8vtqOfU
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December 4th, 2012, 10:09 pm
MarigoldRan said:
Well, that’s a good thing for Egypt. In Egypt, the people can drive out bad leaders with demonstrations and harsh words. In Syria, it takes bombs and guns.
This is why democracies are better than dictatorships. Democracies aren’t peaceful. But they’re better at keeping the level of violence to demonstrations and the occasional riot.
In order to overthrow a dictatorship, you need a bloody civil war or a revolution.
December 4th, 2012, 10:20 pm
Ghufran said:
From the Independent Editorial (UK):
“Those that would press for military intervention in Syria make the dangerous assumption that such an involvement could only improve the situation. Yet experience – most obviously in Iraq and Afghanistan – suggests otherwise. Nor is arming the rebels any more certain to help. To suggest that only the quality of their weaponry stands between the opposition and success is to underestimate the tenacity of the Assad regime. Equally, it risks overestimating the coherence of the rebels.
Despite recent moves to establish a unified movement, the opposition in Syria remains highly fragmented. Indeed, the National Coalition of the Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces put together last month (and swiftly recognised by Britain as the “sole legitimate representative” of the Syrian people) almost immediately descended into rows over its membership. Amid such confusion, and with any number of different groups fighting on the ground, the chances of exacerbating the violence are simply too great.
Thus far, then, the balance of risk remains tilted away from direct intervention. Sanctions, humanitarian aid and all possible assistance towards a political solution are the only responsible course. Were Assad to use his chemical weapons, that might change. Until then, a phoney war is still better than a real one”
December 4th, 2012, 10:21 pm
zoo said:
One brilliant commenter:”This revolution is led by people who fear God,
Oh sure!…Al Qaeeda and Jabhat al Nusra, they fear God indeed.
Stupidity has no limit in this blog
December 4th, 2012, 10:24 pm
MarigoldRan said:
There’s a common mis-perception among commentators on this blog that new democracies are supposed to be peaceful.
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New democracies are NOT peaceful. They’re full of riots, arguments, and demonstrations. But that is a good thing, at least compared to the alternative. In police dictatorships like Syria, people don’t riot. Instead, they shoot at one another.
It is better to have 1000 riots than to have 1 civil war.
December 4th, 2012, 10:27 pm
zoo said:
Hello Dolly
When people will die of hunger soon in the crumbling economy of Egypt then “you need a bloody civil war or a revolution.”
December 4th, 2012, 10:28 pm
MarigoldRan said:
I don’t know, Zoo. Would you rather live in Egypt right now or in Syria?
Last time I checked, the refugees were fleeing TO Egypt FROM Syria. Or am I wrong?
December 4th, 2012, 10:29 pm
zoo said:
Is the opposition under renewed pressure to accept the Geneva ‘solution’ ahead of the 12 December “friends of Syria’ meeting?
Reminder: The June Geneva agreement agreed upon by the International community calls for a transition government without calling for the removal of Bashar Al Assad.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9367330/Geneva-meeting-agrees-transition-plan-to-Syria-unity-government.html
Syrian opposition to meet in Cairo again to take up Syrian crisis
Dec 4, 2012 14:41 Moscow Time
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_12_04/Syrian-opposition-to-meet-in-Cairo-again-to-take-up-Syrian-crisis/
This came in a statement by a Council official Ismail Adel. He said the conferees would basically aim to reach agreement of all the interested parties on ways to settle the Syrian crisis.
Adel stressed the point that the Geneva Communiqué is a good basis for resolving the problem. He added that he specifically meant the forming of an interim government that would organize elections.
The first Contact Group meeting in Cairo on September 10th was attended by the delegations of Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
The Contact Group on Syria was set up on Egypt President Mohamed Mursi’s initiative.
December 4th, 2012, 10:42 pm
Majedkhaldoun said:
Zoo ,as stupid as you are , when you cricize me , it shows how moron you are Zoo
December 4th, 2012, 10:53 pm
Aldendeshe said:
(Ms Jaafari and her dad lives in a $ 5 million house that was once owned by Richard Nixon)
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Still valued @ 5 mil, that is how much Hafez paid Nixon for it back in the 70’s.
December 4th, 2012, 10:58 pm
Ghufran said:
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????? ????? ???? ???? ???????? ?? ???? ???????? ??????? ?? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ???? “?????? ????????” ?????? ?????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ???? ???? ?????.
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If this can happen in Egypt,what would alikhwan do in Syria?
Morsi wants Egypt to become a Sunni version of Iran, his supporters are now threatening a Jihad if he is toppled or defeated.
December 4th, 2012, 11:14 pm
Ghufran said:
The Confessions of a Sniper:
(an interesting read from The Time)
http://world.time.com/2012/12/04/the-confessions-of-a-sniper-a-rebel-gunman-in-aleppo-and-his-conscience/?iid=gs-main-lead
December 4th, 2012, 11:18 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Jihad Maqdisi,may embarrass Muallem
December 4th, 2012, 11:50 pm
Aldendeshe said:
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From the good comis Al Hakika. Dom Perignon for dinner tonight. It will raise my sugar, but what the heck, time to celebrate whenever a Wahabi Moslem Terrorist die, imagine the celebration when few thousands of these Moslem Terrorists inhale the good stuff and turn into wooden log. Sorry about the cats and dogs, but will donate for them martyred poor animal.
December 4th, 2012, 11:50 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
EXTERMINATE THEM WAHABI MOSLEM TERRORISTS
December 4th, 2012, 11:53 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Praise Jesus for that, and Assad for having the courage, and Putin for sending the help for Syria. WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
December 4th, 2012, 11:55 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
December 5th, 2012, 12:54 am
Mohsen said:
All the FSA needs is one mortar weapon, and they can permanently shut down the airport.
And Obama doesn’t want to give FSA mortars because he loves socialist fascists like Assad.
December 5th, 2012, 1:30 am
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
?????? ????? ????? ???? ????? ??????? ?????? ??? ????? ??? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ???????
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Read more about Moslem crimes in Syria:
http://www.syriatruth.org/???????/????????????????/tabid/94/Article/8736/Default.aspx
December 5th, 2012, 1:36 am
Mazlum said:
The same people who were saying Ghaddafi is winning the war, while he was hiding in Sirte, are now saying Assad will win the war!
Probably his own people will arrest Assad and Asma and hand them over to the suwwar for the sake of peace.
December 5th, 2012, 1:37 am
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
Aleppo’s Shaykhs on the Battle Front
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/aleppos-shaykhs-on-the-battle-front/
December 5th, 2012, 2:01 am
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Please be patient and listen to the end, you will learn so much:
December 5th, 2012, 2:08 am
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi Meets With Shaykh Moaz al-Khatib
http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/shaykh-muhammad-al-yaqoubi-meets-with-shaykh-moaz-al-khatib/
December 5th, 2012, 3:17 am
jna said:
U.S. might name Syrian rebel Nusra Front a foreign terrorist group
WASHINGTON — In an apparent bid to isolate Islamist extremists and bolster a new Western-backed Syrian opposition alliance, the United States is moving to declare one of the most effective Syrian rebel groups a foreign terrorist organization because of its alleged ties to al Qaida.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04/3948592/us-might-name-syrian-rebel-nusra.html#.UL8EQlaI3os.twitter#storylink=cpy
December 5th, 2012, 3:28 am
SYR.EXPAT said:
NOT FOR MINHEBAKITES!
What a resourceful people the Syrians are.
The Assad Mafia made sure Syria remained as backwards as possible.
Here’s what people are able to do without much in terms of resources and training.
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December 5th, 2012, 3:57 am
Special K said:
Re 274. So it finally dawns on the brilliant minds in the State Department that the Nusra Front might be problem in the making. The State Department has also been making threats about the Syrian Government considering using its chemical weapon stocks.
Considering the amount of material that has come under rebel control recently, I’d be more worried about these weapons falling into the hands of the Nusra Front- who knows where they might end up. It’s unfortunate that the US responses to the Syrian situation seems to be always two months behind current events.
December 5th, 2012, 6:22 am
Hanzala said:
400 meters from Damascus International Airport
December 5th, 2012, 7:05 am
Citizen said:
Turkish officers fighting alongside insurgents in Syria
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_12_05/Turkish-officers-fighting-alongside-insurgents-in-Syria/
Syrian government troops have routed armed insurgents from Darayya which is located in the suburban Damascus area.
Currently the troops are conducting street by street sweeps and clearing any pockets of resistance so that civilians may return to their homes.
For three weeks, the city was in the hands of the extremist group “Victorious Front” which is associated with “al-Qaeda.” They turned the town into a base of operations from where they launched attacks while using the civilian population as human shields.
In an interview with the Voice of Russia military expert and Syrian General Muhammad Isa, stated that there were several thousand armed insurgents in Darayya.
After their defeat dozens of soldiers and officers of the Turkish national army were identified as being among the prisoners.
The terrorists were planning to seize the military airport at Mezza and aircraft to start bombing residential districts of Damascus said the general.
December 5th, 2012, 7:54 am
Citizen said:
NATO expansion into the Middle East, the systematic surrounding of the People’s Republic of China, the current state of relations between Russia and NATO and what appears to be broken promises and continued aggression on the part of the US and incumbent President Barack Obama – these topics are discussed with Rick Rozoff, a regular Voice of Russia contributor and the owner of Stop NATO International.
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_12_05/NATO-in-the-process-of-surrounding-China-interview/
December 5th, 2012, 7:58 am
habib said:
This is what will happen to useful idiots like Fadwa Soleiman and Samar Yazbeck if the Islamic revolution succeeds:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20584573
“The irony of her situation is clear: “It’s very bad that you put yourself in danger to work hard for this revolution, and then in the end you have to leave it because it’s not a safe place for you anymore.
During the revolution everyone was united, all were working together, but now it’s quite difficult,” she says.”
Believe it or not, a state ruled by Islamists is not a place for feminists. Thoughts, Tara?
December 5th, 2012, 8:38 am
Ghufran said:
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December 5th, 2012, 8:53 am
zoo said:
Ghufran
“Morsi wants Egypt to become a Sunni version of Iran, his supporters are now threatening a Jihad if he is toppled or defeated.
I am looking forward for the Bullyhood circus to unravel, like it is in Tunisia and Libya.
Opposing is a more romantic task than ruling…
December 5th, 2012, 8:58 am
zoo said:
#279 Habib
“a state ruled by Islamists is not a place for feminists”
For all women and minorities in general.
December 5th, 2012, 9:01 am
zoo said:
Is Russia About To Ditch Syria? The Truth Is That It May Not Matter
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2012/12/04/is-russia-about-to-ditch-syria-the-truth-is-that-it-may-not-matter/
There is a heavy bias towards the “Assad as the root of all evil” hypothesis, and an assumption that if he is somehow removed from power than things will just work themselves out. Now I can’t pretend to know exactly what will happen if Assad is deposed, but considering the United States’ experience in post-Saddam Iraq, and the fact that the Alawites have greatly benefited from Assad’s largess, it certainly seems possible that they will not become sober and compromise-minded but hell-bent on revenge and bloodshed. It’s probably a bit hackneyed to see the Alawites as exactly analogous to the Sunni in Iraq, but it seems a reasonable enough comparison.
Frankly speaking I think the Western foreign policy community could learn a lot from the skepticism displayed by the vast majority of Russians (not just their government’s foreign policy apparatus) towards military intervention in Syria. Compared to Western analysis, which seems primarily focused on external factors such as the support Syria receives from Russia and Iran, Russian analysis seems far more narrowly focused on the internal sectarian dynamics of Syria and the incentives faced by Assad and the small clique surrounding him. This analysis basically comes to the conclusion that “Syria is doomed regardless of what anyone does,” a nasty conclusion but one that I find perfectly logical.
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I can’t tell you how many articles I’ve read which basically say “overthrow Assad now and then we’ll worry about the rest later.” The Russians are perfectly right to point out that such a “plan” is insane and would be a recipe for the worsening of the violent sectarian civil war in which Syria is now engaged.
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But advocates of armed intervention, even if they despise Lukyanov and the school of thought he represents, would be well advised to take him seriously because if your “plan” for solving Syria doesn’t address Assad’s increasingly desperate struggle for his own survival or the likelihood of Alawite radicalism then it’s not very much of a plan at all.
December 5th, 2012, 9:09 am
zoo said:
Is There an Egyptian Nation? ( Is there a Syrian nation?
The current protests aren’t about the President Mohamed Morsi’s power grab — this fight is over something far more basic.
BY SHADI HAMID | DECEMBER 4, 2012
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/12/04/is_there_an_egyptian_nation
As Brookings Institution scholar Khaled Elgindy astutely observed, “a persecution complex is the backbone of authoritarianism.” He may be right, but that doesn’t make the Brotherhood’s persecution complex any less real. The memory of 1954 looms large, when President Gamal Abdel Nasser banned the Brotherhood, rounded up its members en masse, and executed many of its leaders. More recently, the Algerian tragedy of 1991 — where the staunchly secular military aborted an election Islamists were poised to win, plunging the country into civil war — remains a defining moment in the Islamist narrative.
For the Muslim Brotherhood, another Algeria is always around the corner. Winning one election after another is no guarantee of political survival, just like it wasn’t in 1991. For the Brotherhood, the dissolution of parliament last June offered yet more evidence that the liberal opposition and international community would not stand up for democracy when it was Islamists who suffered.
These betrayals — and each side has their own long list — are now etched in memory, making reasoned dialogue a challenging task. To be sure, the mistrust is amplified by a terribly mismanaged transition, but it also draws from something real and deep, if often unstated. Behind all the accusations and the seemingly minor procedural objections lies something more basic: Egyptians simply may not agree on the fundamental attributes of the modern nation state. Should the state be ideologically neutral, or should it be an enforcer of morality, intent on creating virtuous families and virtuous individuals? Egyptians, and most of the Arab world for that matter, haven’t really had this conversation until now.
December 5th, 2012, 9:17 am
zoo said:
Is the Syrian Army indirectly doing the dirty and lethal job of weakening and eliminating Al Qaeeda affiliates militants without any western support, when in other countries the UN is rallying external military forces to do the same?
The border between terrorists and revolutionaries has become increasingly blurred.
War is coming to Mali
By: Gwynne Dyer
Posted: 12/4/2012 1:00 AM | Comments
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What set alarms bells ringing in the United States and Europe was the fact that al-Qaida in the Maghreb (AQIM) is a major force in the alliance of Islamist fundamentalists that now controls northern Mali. The mere mention of al-Qaida sets western governments salivating like Pavlov’s dogs, and the issue of reconquering northern Mali suddenly got onto the international agenda.
Western countries have been pushing for a UN Security Council resolution authorizing military action against the rebels for months, and in October they got their way. The resolution gave regional leaders 45 days to provide plans for an international military intervention to oust the rebels in northern Mali, and the U.S. government recently said that war is now “inevitable.”
As that deadline approached, Ban Ki-Moon wrote his letter to the Security Council condemning the rush to military action: “I am profoundly aware that if a military intervention in the north is not well conceived and executed, it could worsen an already fragile humanitarian situation and also result in severe human rights abuses. Fundamental questions on how the force would be led, sustained, trained, equipped and financed remain unanswered.”
December 5th, 2012, 9:27 am
majedkhaldoun said:
there is difference between Syrian revolution and Libyan revolution.
In Libya the rebels are mostly common people, they were not defecting soldiers from the army, in Syria the FSA is mainly defecting soldiers, they will be in full control of the post Assad period.
The other difference is ,in Syria the islamic power is less powerful than in Libya by a lot. .
However what happened in Libya,to that woman is a shame and those people who arrested her and beat her must be brought to justice and must be punished, Women rights must improve after Assad, their current situation under Assad is miserable , and Assad did nothing to help women in Syria
December 5th, 2012, 9:32 am
Hanzala said:
old man in Daraa fighting Assad has a few words to say.
December 5th, 2012, 10:01 am
Tara said:
Habib,
The regime left us no choice except to revolt. A revolution is a dynamic process and its outcome is never guaranteed, yet the brutality and barbarity of the prethident make Islamist rules if materialized sounds more favorable.
I definitely don’t mind a course for Syria similar to Egypt. Even though the Egyptians are more pious than Syrians, they are not letting Morsi gets away with absolute power. Had minorities stood with the people from the very first shot, we would have not gotten to where we are now.
December 5th, 2012, 10:46 am
Visitor said:
Is this why you, Majedkhaldoun, think Makdissi may embarass Muallem?
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/05/253505.html
December 5th, 2012, 10:55 am
zoo said:
#284
“a persecution complex is the backbone of authoritarianism.”
In Egypt, it applies equally to the Moslem Brotherhood and to the liberal Egyptians
In Syria it applies equally to the Sunni Islamists and to the liberal Syrians
There can’t be democracy if persecution complexes continues to exist. As we see it simply shifting sides, the persecution complex will now die off easily.
This is why authoritarianism is here to stay for many more decades in the region.
December 5th, 2012, 11:35 am
zoo said:
It seems that unlike the US who has the habit of abruptly dumping its long time allies, such as Iran’s shah and Mobarak, Russia does not seem to easily dump its allies when they get into trouble
“Davuto?lu said Ankara wants “establishment of a transitional government without [Syrian President Bashar] al-Assad,” while Russia wants “a transitional government with al-Assad continuing in its normal process.” Russia and Turkey agree on the target but have differences over the means to reach it, according to Davuto?lu, who added that Russia’s efficient involvement in the process is more significant in comparison to Iran’s role in the issue. ”
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-knows-everything-about-syrians-700-missiles-foreign-minister-says.aspx?pageID=238&nID=36155&NewsCatID=338
December 5th, 2012, 11:49 am
Majed97 said:
There seems to be coordinated efforts by western media the last few days to create a doom and gloom impression for the Syrian regime, as if it’s about to fall any day now. Yet militarily, the reality on the ground does not support such outcome, as the FSA was dealt a major blow in Damascus over the weekend, and the situation in Aleppo is favoring the military as of late. The FSA continues to struggle in making any tangible progress, and have yet to control any key city. All they can claim is taking over a base here and there that have minimum strategic value. I can’t help but wonder about the timing of this media campaign, which also coincides with the deployment of the Patriot missiles, talk of chemical weapons, Putin’s visit to Turkey, and alleged secret negotiations with Iran. Something major seems to be in the works. Any thoughts??
December 5th, 2012, 11:49 am
Jasmine said:
Majed @ 292
USA is going to dump SA soon,now Syria is in chaos and the mission is accomplished.
December 5th, 2012, 12:58 pm
Visitor said:
Majed @292 must be living in Lala land. The following embeded video shows clearly who is on the offensive,
http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/5b449a01-cd3c-4888-830b-80c37f627477?GoogleStatID=1
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On the other hand I have never been an MB sympathizer, but the way the MB’s in Egypt handled the recent escalation so far is cause for admiration. The so-called liberals headed by Baradei, Sabahi and others have clearly discredited themselves by resorting to violence. These guys are bad losers from day one and they have never accepted their defeat in the recent elections. We can see their examples here on SC among the lov-u gang. Now it is becoming clear that they do not want to and never intended to play with Democratic rules.
If these so-called liberals want a show down with the Islamists, they will be annihilated.
December 5th, 2012, 1:09 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Chemical weapons
“there is a danger of guards fleeing and some kind of terrorist organization stepping in and just grabbing some of the stuff off the shelves and running off with it”
Assad may lose some control and disciplen over his troops,and the above may happen, for that I say US must never take a chance and US must interfere
Makdissi have not spoken yet, I suspect,that whether he is in London or USA the CIA will get hold of him first and interrogate him for few days,he may not tell the whole truth,he is safer in USA ,Syria may say he is a spy.
December 5th, 2012, 1:10 pm
Ghat Al Bird said:
Unexpected and welcome news in non-western press that – the construction of a new gas pipeline has resumed.
The pipeline will link South Pars, the largest gas field in the world, with Damascus, and then the Mediterranean and Europe. Thus requiring hopefully a peaceful resolution in stead of death and destruction.
Think positive!
December 5th, 2012, 1:20 pm
Mina said:
279 Habib,
Some people on this board just share with the MB the vision of an ideal and wealthy Gulf: “full of 4 seasons and Molaaat”, but they miss one point… There is no centralism for the state to function properly in the Gulf and people do not have any feeling of belonging to a common nation. They refer to their tribal or religious affiliation. Yemen is an exception, because they have had a culture for centuries, but Yemen is not the Gulf anyway.
December 5th, 2012, 1:29 pm
Ghufran said:
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???? ???? ????? “???? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ???????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ??”.
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December 5th, 2012, 1:36 pm
Visitor said:
Result of first round:
So-called liberals were kicked out in just one afternoon and their squating camp removed completely.
However, it was the so-called liberals who began the escalation. The first one to fall was an MB woman
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????? ??? ?????????? ????? ??? ???????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ?????????? ????????? ???????? ?? ????? ??????? ??????? ???? ?????????? ????? ????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ?????? “????? ???? ????? ???????” ?? ??????? ???????? ?”???? ???? ???????”.
????? ?????? ????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ??????? ????????.
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??????? ????? ?????????? ?? ???? ????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ????????? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ???????? ????????? ?????? ??????? ???????? ?????? ????????? ??? ??????? ?? ?????.
???? ??? ?? ??? ????? ??? ????? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ????????? ???? ?????? ??? ??? ?????????? ????????? ????? ?? ??????.
December 5th, 2012, 1:40 pm
Hamoudeh al-Halabi said:
Not sure if anyone mentioned it but David Ignatius is implying that Jabhat al-Nusra is part of the FSA in setting them against “the more moderate wing of the Free Syrian Army (FSA)” and setting the numbers of its fighters against the total number of the FSA. It appears he is getting this from the FSA representative who he quotes as saying that the group “now accounts for 7.5 percent to 9 percent of the Free Syrian Army’s total fighters”, that it accounts for “most of the injured and dead FSA.” Jabhat al-Nusra is not part of the FSA whatsoever and if Ignatius implying it is not bad enough, worse is the fact that the source is apparently an organisation that represents the FSA (is it the SSG?). I cannot imagine the SSG or anyone who actually represents the FSA would suggest such a thing. The numbers by the way are highly exaggerated, there is no way they number 10.000 in total, 10% of all armed opposition, 2000 of which would be in Aleppo alone. They have certainly grown, in prominence more than in numbers, but there is no way it is now 10 to 15 times larger than before in just a few months. And as far as Aleppo goes mostly in al-Bab? Very doubtful considering the civil developments there, Mufti Nasaan and so on.
December 5th, 2012, 2:56 pm
Aldendeshe said:
The numbers by the way are highly exaggerated, there is no way they number 10.000 in total, 10% of all armed opposition, 2000 of which would be in Aleppo alone. They have certainly grown, in prominence more than in numbers, but there is no way it is now 10 to 15 times larger than before in just a few months.
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What a bull sh***t. If there is a 100,000 armed mercenaries fighting in Syria, they would have run Syria in 3 days. Jabhat Alnusra is Mossad Terrorist unit operating under Islamic name and embedded into the terrorist network, perhaps numbering 2000 at most.It is mostly made out of Terrorists from various Islamic countries with support groups from Syria.
December 5th, 2012, 3:09 pm
Mina said:
“So-called liberals” ?
You must have been watching al Jazeera too much.
Actually Morsy is quickly discovering democracy: even his aides quit him (not to mention Abu al Futuh of Hizb al Nur, who saw all this coming long ago).
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/59875/Egypt/Politics-/BREAKING-Presidential-aides-AbdelFattah,-Sayyad-re.aspx
” Egypt president Mohamed Morsi’s aides Seif Abdel-Fattah and Ayman El-Sayyad have resigned on Wednesday in the wake of the clashes that erupted in front of the presidential palace between supporters and opponents of Morsi.
“We are today announcing the decision that we have made but put on hold for more than a week. We hoped to find a solution, but to no avail,” El-Sayyad said on his Twitter account.
Seif Abdel-Fattah told Al-Jazeera television: “Egypt is bigger than a narrow-minded elite. Egypt will continue its revolution.”
“We can no longer stay silent because they [the Muslim Brotherhood] have harmed the nation and the revolution and we need to rebuild Egypt…the youth are the ones who took to the front lines to serve the revolution…I pray for mercy for the souls of the martyrs.””
December 5th, 2012, 3:25 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Syrian Nationalist Party
Metaz K M Aldendeshe
Chief Strategist
Assad is making serious strategic mistake, not exterminating the Moslem terrorists, bigger mistake, not declaring State of War, 22 hours curfew with shout to kill anything moving. Allowing movement sector by sector only through check points that can verify Syrian ID based on Sijjil Madani and Intel/ profiling. What is happening is that about 10,000 local fighters and foreign mercenaries are being moved around Syria clandestinely through local support groups from one city to the other. By locking the country communications and roads, tracing foreign communications and persons, Assad can get handle on this Evil mission to destroy (roll back) Syria quickly. Assad is prolonging this terrorist mission and slowly depleting Syria resources. SNP can mop out the subhuman Moslem terrorists in 30 days and even take the fight to the enemy States, shocking them in helpless desperation. Then it boil down to getting paid the billions we need to rebuild, his is a piece of cake for SNP. STOP PLAYING MONKEY BUSINESS BASHAR. Qatar is one boom away from the Grand Demolition Plan. Those Bedouin favorite antique, Patriot missiles batteries placed at the Seat of SATAN (Turkey), I am willing to bet anyone 10 million dollars that I can by remote control take each battery out of commission for less than $100 Dollars each. Anyone wants to bet me, bring the cash over and will demonstrate to you how it is done.
December 5th, 2012, 3:32 pm
Visitor said:
“Actually Morsy is quickly discovering democracy:…”
Nevertheless so-called liberals began throwing molotovs and eventually got kicked out as will your prethident thug very shortly.
December 5th, 2012, 3:41 pm
Tara said:
One person legacy might be to put a smile on a face of a child. Bashar and Asma’s legacy was to make the children of Syria be in constant fear for their lives.
“Each time I hear one, I look up and expect to die”
As fighting subsides, Aleppo residents find little left
By Arwa Damon, CNN
updated 7:36 AM EST, Wed December 5, 2012
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/04/world/meast/syria-aleppo-residents/index.html
December 5th, 2012, 3:43 pm
ghufran said:
???? ?????? ????? ??????? ????? ???????? ?? ???????? ??????? ???? ????? ???? ????????? ??????? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????? “???? ??????” ??????? ?????? “???????”? ?? ????? ???????? ????????? ????????.
if that is true,it means that any person or a party that supports this terrorist organization will be a legitimate target for US law enforcement agencies,this includes politicians, financiers, fighters and even people who provide non material support (e.g promotion, public speeches,etc), I will follow up on this subject, call your congressman and senator and tell them we did not lose 40,000 people in Syria to replace Assad thugs with MB thugs and their pimps.
December 5th, 2012, 3:56 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
call your congressman and senator and tell them we did not lose 40,000 people in Syria to replace Assad thugs with MB thugs and their pimps.
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But they support the Zionist-Neocon-Bedouin “Roll Back” Syria “Clean Break” plan. Why would they undercut Mossad Al Nusra front, Israel will never let the Congressmen/women vote to declare it Terrorist group, even if the State Dept wanted to. Do you really think they care about Syria being a viable and Democratic State, or Egypt, Libya or what have you!!!
December 5th, 2012, 4:07 pm
Citizen said:
valuable interview
Nazemroaya: Syria and the Strategic Balance of Eurasia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPC5Kr7KcuI
Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya (interview on Syrian Television) ~ 26/11/2012:
“If a EU member of NATO got just even 10% of pressure Syria has on itself, they will collapse”
December 5th, 2012, 4:24 pm
ghufran said:
Khaddam: Assad departure is key
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??????? ???? ????? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ???? ???? ?? ?? ???? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ?? “?????? ???? ???? ??? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????”? ????? ??? ??? “??? ?? ????? ??? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ???????? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ????? ???? ?????”.
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?? ???? ?????? ?????”.
????? ???? ??? “??? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ?????? ????? ????? ???? ??????”? ????? ?? “??? ???????? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??????”
December 5th, 2012, 4:45 pm
Citizen said:
306. GHUFRAN said:
???? ?????? ????? ??????? ????? ???????? ?? ???????? ??????? ???? ????? ???? ????????? ??????? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????? “???? ??????” ??????? ?????? “???????”? ?? ????? ???????? ????????? ????????. ???? ??????? ???? ?????????????????? !
????? ? ?? ????? ??????? ??????? !
Wesley Clark’s Ties To Albanian Terrorists
http://theremustbejustice.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/wesley-clarks-ties-to-albanian-terrorists/
The retired General who had been refusing to declare himself a Democrat or Republican is now declaring himself a Democratic presidential candidate. But more important than his party affiliation is Wesley Clark?s bizarre view on how to fight terrorism. The media refer to Clark’s impressive military credentials but they fail to note that his main accomplishment under President Clinton was presiding over the establishment of a base for radical Islamic terrorism, including Osama bin Laden, in Kosovo.
December 5th, 2012, 4:55 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Assad is considering assylum
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/05/253495.html
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-envoy-france-assad-ready-step-down-103417092.html
December 5th, 2012, 5:12 pm
zoo said:
Internet and mobile phone are all up… The airport road is safe.
After a moment of media hysteria with all kind of doom predictions, it seem that this second “decisive” Damascus war is about to end.
Are we going to hear about another “tactical retreat” of the armed rebels? Maybe they just panicked when they heard about the chemical weapons that Obama told them the regime may use on them.
The safest place for them are now the tunnels that will lead them straight back to their ‘liberated’ villages on the Turkey borders.
Bye Bye…
December 5th, 2012, 5:12 pm
Aldendeshe said:
“??????? ?????? ??? ?????? ??
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December 5th, 2012, 5:15 pm
zoo said:
“Assad is considering asylum”
… said the Israeli Haaretz, happily carried to us by the mouthpiece of their ally in the Arab world.
December 5th, 2012, 5:17 pm
Visitor said:
Actually Asma looks very very ugly just looking at the picture in MajedK’s comment.
Bashar looks as usual with the same characteristic buffoon look.
I just hope Dendeshe wakes up and sees the light. What do you see in them Dendeshe? Thay are bad for Syria. They are bad for you and me and everyone else.
December 5th, 2012, 5:32 pm
Aldendeshe said:
I just hope Dendeshe wakes up and sees the light. What do you see in them Dendeshe? Thay are bad for Syria. They are bad for you and me and everyone else.
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I see somebody better for Syria than Jabhat Al Nusra, or the 3 stooges hired as puppet and recognized by some country, I see someone that care more about Syria than Khaddam’s, Tlasse’s etc. I see leader who steadfast and fought hard (although cowardly) to defend Syria from murderous foreign plot, I see someone that is much more reasonable than what the Moslem Brotherhood offered. I see someone that Syria, although was set backward and impoverished, stayed relatively a State to reckon with. There is a whole lot one can see in Bashar Assad than what all others has offered the people of Syria in care, leadership, plans, solutions etc.
He is for sure not a perfect leader, he is arrogant, never listen to advise, he never trust other than his Alawites or Baathist cadre, he played the Zionist plan perfectly, he never gave in to legitimate demands of the people, he relied heavily on MURTAZAKA for MAHSOUBIYYE in his rule, not on professional people that are not corrupt and competent. He needs a major make over, but first he needs to have the will to doing so and engaging his countrymen in the making of Syria’s future instead of placing the populace between a rock and a hard place, between very bad and worse situations. But still, we do not accept an Atassi or x Baathit Murtazakaa in his place, even in Syria period. These kind of trash that polluted Syria for decades, brought Syria to this calamity on all levels, must never have a say or foot in Syria and we will work very hard, even fight and die to make sure they will ever, ever, ever, ever get the chance to do us in one more day. The United States, Israel, and Bedouin garbage, you name it, can stick it, it boils down to this: The people of Syria will have their way or you all will have WWIII.
December 5th, 2012, 5:56 pm
Tara said:
“PARIS (AP) — Russia’s ambassador to France said Friday that he believes Syria’s president is ready to step down “in a civilized way.” But the Syrian government immediately denied it”
The Syrian government quickly denied it. So Mnhebaks should not bother us with their love-you-forever-worship-you-always tears when Batta ends up in a non-civilized way. We would have no sympathy. He is free to choose.
December 5th, 2012, 6:03 pm
Citizen said:
?????? ?????? ???? : ?? ?????
Obama la preferisce coperta
http://www.ilmanifesto.it/area-abbonati/in-edicola/manip2n1/20121204/manip2pg/14/manip2pz/332665/
……
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December 5th, 2012, 6:10 pm
Visitor said:
Sorry Chief Strategist @316. Bashar is not a leader. He is a dumb mule.
He is also a traitor
He is also a murderer
He is also a coward
He is also a quack
He is also a dupe
He is also a bum
He is also a bonehead
He is also an ignoramus
He is also a giraffe neck
He is also dimwit
He is also pinhead
He is also an a**hole
December 5th, 2012, 6:10 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
We will not feel sad for Bashar leaving involuntarily, we feel sad for Syria’s future, more, we will feel vengeful and work to drag humanity to WWIII, make sure not just Syria is left to look like that, but most major cities of the countries that have hand in this destruction and demise.
December 5th, 2012, 6:11 pm
ghufran said:
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what Morsi is facing in Egypt will be child’s play compared to what the MB and the Islamists will face if they try to take over the government in Syria, it was never about Assad for most of us, secular Syrians who are not happy with neither the regime nor the MB,for some it was,it is about what type of a country Syria should become especially regarding treatment of minorities and women, the war may have been triggered by Assad’s thugs brutality but it will not end when he leaves, by choice or force. This forum should not be left as a playing fields for Islamist paper tigers and mouth pieces, the truth must be told,they have the right to talk and we have the right to expose their lies.
December 5th, 2012, 6:45 pm
zoo said:
All these rumors, coming from France of all places…talking about the ‘despair’ of Bashar al Assad, his plans to leave ( didn’t we hear that a few months ago from one of these ‘reliable’ arab media outlet?
I think that, after the initial excitement as there has been no spectacular new “recognition” of the “CNOPFFS”, not even from the Arab League, then the western media must fill up doom about Syria: defection, chemical, NATO etc… .
All this is to prepare for the 12 December where the CNOPFFS will be face to face with the “friends of Syria” to listen and obey in unisson to what they’ll have to swallow in exchange of a wider recognition. They’ll be offered a face saving but if they refuse, well then, they’ll probably be given a warning that they’ll be dumped just the SNC by getting no more recognition.
As far as the military option, it’s going for the worse for the opposition. The FSA’s exposed intimacy with terrorist groups has seriously compromised its credibility and no one talks anymore about sending them weapons. The official reason is that the FSA having claimed its militias have enough weapons and non-lethal items they have received or taken from the many Syrian army bases they ‘captured’ and they have all its needs to make videos as they shoot a plane or summary execute soldiers.
The final game of the season will be played on the 12 december in Morocco. All cards will be put on table. Until them, rumors will flow…
December 5th, 2012, 6:55 pm
zoo said:
USA: We have no knowledge of formal offers…
U.S. Aware of Assad Asylum Offers
2012-12-06 07:09:15
http://english.cri.cn/6966/2012/12/06/2361s736843.htm
A U.S. government spokesman said Wednesday that Washington is aware of the informal offers by some countries to give asylum to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
“We do understand that some countries both in the region and elsewhere have offered to host Assad and his family should they choose to leave Syria,” said State Department spokesman Mark Toner at a regular news briefing.
“We, at this point, don’t have any formal understanding or knowledge of concrete offers, we are aware that some offers have been made informally,” he told reporters.
Toner’s remarks were in response to reports that some Arab countries and a number of Latin American countries are privately offering asylum to Assad.
December 5th, 2012, 7:14 pm
Altair said:
I don’t see how anyone here (or any Syrian) can still support this regime. You can all keep arguing about the alternative being worse, but that can’t excuse the fact the regime blew it royally (pun intended).
If Bashar truly loves his country he should step down. There is nothing heroic in what is happening. The fact that there is a civil war is proof of his failure, and the longer this goes on the longer to repair the damage.
The heroic thing would be to resign and explain why they ever shot at peaceful protesters, paving the way for the violent actors to replace them.
It’s true that no leadership has emerged to replace the current one, but that is the result of years of repressing any alternative, secular or otherwise.
Hafiz broke the back of a generation to the point that no one would dare to say anything against him. They got to the point that they dared not even think anything contrary to the wishes of the regime. I’m sure that there some in the regime who are warped enough to think that was the way to run things, that Bashar was too soft, but the truth is, Hafiz passed a curse to his son, to all his sons, to his sect and his country.
40 years of this crushing of the human spirit can’t be healed in a few years. But the healing will never begin when there is anyone from the current regime still in power. There has to be a way to create a transition to lead to elections, and the longer this conflict continues the harder it will be to have a proper election and the more hardened and polarized the populace will be.
I can’t understand why regime supporters don’t understand this. You can’t be using the air force against your own cities and claiming you are saving your country. That air force was meant to be used to defend against external enemies. When was the last time that happened?
It need not be all or nothing. The regime keeps digging the hole deeper and deeper for itself that it will be nearly impossible to get out of this situation short of total destruction. Are these people all totally insane?
December 5th, 2012, 7:17 pm
Tara said:
Bravo ya Ban! Asylum only if death of Syrians is to be prevented. If not, the killer shall be killed.
The UN secretary-general, Ban Ki-moon, has suggested he would disapprove on any asylum deal for Assad.
Speaking to AP he refused to comment directly on the matter but added: “whoever commits (a) gross violation of human rights must be held accountable and should be brought to justice. This is a fundamental principle”.
December 5th, 2012, 7:25 pm
zoo said:
After having failed to pro-pup the SNC, Hillary now wants to “support” the building of a ‘viable political force’ out of the new coalition. Rendez-vous in Marrakech on the 12th for the ‘political transition’ plan’
Clinton Expresses Support for New Syrian Opposition Coalition
By ANNE BARNARD and MICHAEL R. GORDON
Published: December 5, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/world/middleeast/clinton-expresses-support-for-new-syrian-opposition-coalition.html?_r=0
BEIRUT, Lebanon — The United States expressed fresh support on Wednesday for a new coalition of Syrian opposition groups formed as an alternative to the government of President Bashar al-Assad.
“Now that there is a new opposition formed, we are going to be doing what we can to support that opposition,” Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said at a news conference in Brussels. “I am looking forward to the friends of the Syrian people meeting next week in Marrakesh, where we will explore with like-minded countries what we can do to bring this conflict to an end.”
Mrs. Clinton’s remarks appeared aimed at contributing momentum to the efforts of the opposition coalition, formally known as the National Coalition of Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, to transform itself from a loosely allied organization into a viable political force.
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The United States has not formally recognized the group, and any decision to do so could be announced at the so-called Friends of Syria meeting that Mrs. Clinton is expected to attend in Morocco next Wednesday. American officials want to first see the coalition develop a political structure as a credible alternative to Mr. Assad’s government.
With the pressure on to create a government framework ahead of the Morocco meeting, the coalition and its delegates have held meetings in Cairo to try to agree on how to choose leaders, including a prime minister, and another round of talks could take place on Saturday in the Egyptian capital. Yaser Tabbara, a member of the coalition, said they might also try to identify candidates for 10 to 15 cabinet positions.
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Mrs. Clinton later added, “What we should be thinking about is a political transition in Syria and one that needs to start as soon as possible.”
December 5th, 2012, 7:46 pm
Tara said:
Do Kafans have a smell? Does any one know?
Syria’s ‘Operation Fairy Tale’: Reading in War Zones and Other Initiatives
Daily images and reports coming out of Syria show rows of killed Syrians, mainly children, wrapped in white kafan — a clean white perfumed shroud used to wrap a body before burial.
But none of these warnings register with those who insist that they “can’t just sit and do nothing.”
There have been many silent samaritans visiting Syrian refugee camps and even going into Syria with the sole purpose of “helping.” Only after a doctor friend came back did I see on Facebook his photos and notes on the horrible state of hospitals and clinics in Syria. This surgeon, of Syrian-Lebanese origin, took a month off from work and headed to a war zone and volunteered his time.
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Since I never did make my father’s dreams come true by becoming a doctor, I thought of volunteering what I am good at: reading and writing. One idea I’ve had is to launch a reading and writing mission to Syria. I called it “Operation Fairy Tale.”
The idea was that we would go to refugee camps and Syrian cities reading stories, donating books and notebooks, and engaging children of all ages with the world of words. Adults can join us, of course, during the reading sessions around camp fires. They may need the break more than children sometimes.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rym-tina-ghazal/syria-education_b_2219544.html
December 5th, 2012, 8:13 pm
Citizen said:
324
Now direct spotlight on the other side, and objectively say, of whom is an opposing force? What is its nature? And acting in alliance with whom? How much blood is shed it needs? is there a need for glasses? can you distinguish hostile approach to the armed opposition and belonging to the open foreign agendas and regime supporters?
Do you support the idea of atonement after being accused of old political system to do so?
December 5th, 2012, 8:25 pm
Sheila said:
Dear Ghufran,
You know that “withdrew” her application means that Columbia kicked her out. This is a standard way of doing this. I am glad that Cloumbia saw the light. This woman worked with the Syrian regime on its propaganda campaign to cover up the brutal attack on civilians in Syria. She deserves nothing but contempt. I hope every child she helped murder will haunt her in her sleep for as long as she lives. Covering up crimes is no less abhorrent than committing them yourself.
December 5th, 2012, 8:34 pm
Citizen said:
This is an Islamic “revolution”. In simple terms: No religious freedom, slave-status for adult women/girls and destruction of personal freedom. Those who do not agree will face deportation, murder, exclusion and torture. It will be another Islamic paradise… Freedom-loving peoples of all Nations should begin to weep tears for those who are to be subjected to this living death.
December 5th, 2012, 8:43 pm
Citizen said:
continuation of 328
Jihadists Eclipsing Other Rebels in Syria’s Aleppo
http://www.aina.org/news/20121205195034.htm
ALEPPO, Syria (AFP) — Protests in Syria’s northern city Aleppo against the Free Syrian Army highlight the waning influence of mainstream rebel groups and the rise of more disciplined and better-equipped radical Islamists.
Once a rare sight in the Syria’s second city and commercial hub, plagued since July 20 by deadly urban combat, the presence of Islamist fighters has now become increasingly felt.
“One morning I woke up and looked outside to see six armed men in black, wearing headbands and their eyes lined with kohl” in the tradition of the Prophet Mohammed, said George, a resident of the western Siryan al-Jadideh district.
Their ferocity and fighting skills have made the jihadist “Al-Nusra Front the dominant force in Aleppo now,” eclipsing the Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated Liwa al-Tawhid, once the strongest brigade in the city, said another, Mustafa.
Islamist militants are known not only for their discretion, but also for their selflessness in combat, prompting protesters on Friday to urge the FSA to man the front lines instead of staying in commandeered quarters.
Maher, a former clothing shop clerk and resident of the FSA-held district of Bustan al-Qasr, took part in a recent protest against looting by rebels who he says have taken over the homes of many families who have fled the violence.
It is the radical Islamists’ low profile that residents respect the most.
“They do not approach the people,” according to Maamoun, a resident of the southern district of Kalasseh.
But it is also difficult to communicate with the fighters because “some have a different accent, and others we can’t understand at all,” he added.
Mustafa, a 37-year-old teacher, lives with his wife and five children in Bustan al-Basha, a stronghold of two jihadist groups and Liwa al-Tawhid.
“We never see them, except during rebel or army attacks,” he said. “Al-Nusra and Ghuraba al-Sham show up in the neighbourhood as soon as the army attacks and then disappear once the fighting is over.”
The jihadist Al-Nusra Front remains a murky organisation to outsiders, its fighters refusing to speak to reporters.
Unknown before the uprising broke out in March 2011, Al-Nusra has said in videos posted to jihadist forums that it carried out most of the deadly suicide bombings in Syria, including in Aleppo, Damascus and Deir Ezzor in the east.
Its counterparts are two large jihadist groups, Ghuraba al-Sham comprising mainly Turks and fighters from former Soviet bloc countries, and Ahrar al-Sham (Free Men of Damascus), composed largely of Lebanese and Iraqis.
The quality of their weapons and access to funding also sets the jihadist groups apart from the Free Syrian Army.
“Most FSA fighters are young. Some are even teenagers and carry unsophisticated weapons,” said civil servant Abdullah, 32, who lives in the army-held Old City.
“But Al-Nusra fighters are older and have modern weapons and bullet-proof vests.”
The differences in funding of the various factions was clear during the holy fasting month of Ramadan.
“Al-Nusra fighters were feasting on grilled meat to break the fast at sundown, while the Free Army guys had to settle for sandwiches,” said Abdullah.
According to Hossam, a 35-year-old journalist living in the Old City, both groups engage in kidnappings.
“The rebels do it for ransom to pay their fighters and buy weapons, but Al-Nusra never needs to negotiate — they kill their hostages.”
The Islamists have nevertheless found growing support, while the mainstream rebels have been accused of acting like thugs.
A telling sign of its growing authority is that Al-Nusra Front often mediates in disputes between rebel groups, according to Mujahid, aged 30.
“There were clashes for one month between rebels in (the southern district of) Fardoss, until Al-Nusra took control of the area and shared out the booty, mostly guns and ammunition,” he said.
December 5th, 2012, 9:00 pm
Sheila said:
Dear Ghufran,
Everyone from Halab knows who killed the three people: a judge and two architects. The perpetrators were not ??????? as you stated. The restaurant where they were killed is very close to the military hospital. The area is full of Syrian army check points and is totally controlled by the regime. In addition to that, we all know who the target was. The decent judge who kept on defying ????????? and releasing the demonstrators from prison for less money than the regime wanted. He had to be terminated to teach others who dare defy the regime.
December 5th, 2012, 9:03 pm
Sheila said:
Dear Altair,
Very well said. The problem is that “common” sense is not really as common as we think it is. People in Syria have been living under such tyranny that they lost the sense of right and wrong. What should be their right, was given to them slowly and as a grand gift from the “wonderful” president. Members of the regime are so used to walking all over people that they can not fathom that someone can dare raise his head, look them in the eye and say no. It is just incomprehensible to them.
December 5th, 2012, 9:11 pm
William Scott Scherk said:
At 312 we learn:
Indeed, the international flight tracker for DAM shows three flights scheduled to land today (plus three cancellations). It could very well be that the airport road is ‘safe,’ but there apparently have been no plane movements.
Perhaps the US gentleman at #312 can let us know what Damascenes should do once they get to the airport and discover it is open for business but no flights are actually taking off or landing?
Or, if the gentleman from Long Beach disputes the flight-tracker details, perhaps he could let us know his source of information.
December 5th, 2012, 9:17 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Mohammad the Movie trailer, not far from the truth, in fact the movie hid some truth that is too evil to portray:
December 5th, 2012, 9:27 pm
Frend in America said:
ZOO #284
Very interesting comment. There are suggestions in your remarks.
While negotiations are always possible, sometimes are better than others. Today is a very good time, better than any other time in the past 2 years. So I want to respond with a hand of welcome.
The hard thing for many who are inexperienced in negotiations is you have to give up something to get something. Nobody gets the whole fruit. That even includes an agreement to engage in negotiations.
There is no chance the leaders of the “rebels” will engage in negotiations with Bashar and family continuing in power. Why? Read #178. Too much pain, suffering and brutality the family has allowed to be imposed on Syria’s countrymen. But I suspect Bashar will recognize a negotiated settlement is far better for Syria than a political vaccuum in which the extremists see advantages for themselves to the suffering of others.
The Assad family has to pay this price and in return get free passage out of the country with their wealth. Give something big to get something big.
Terms of settlement? Some or most of the following:
– Release of all military and political prisoners, destruction of torture facilities after release of prisoners.
– No persecution of minorities.
– War crime referral to Brussels.
– No MB or other radicals in the provisional or permanent government.
– Joint campaign to disarm and send home all foreign irregular fighters
– Surrender of chemical weapons facilities to the UN
– Commission to reorganize the judiciary leading to an independant judiciary
– Freedom of speech, press, religious tolerance
– Personal safety throughout Syria; inviting all ex-pats to return home.
-Recognize at least a portion of the debts owed Russia and Iran with return of military equipment for the balance
– Agreement Russia may keep the base at Tartous, maybe for a shorter term.
– Peaceful relations with all neighbors, leaving grieveances to arbitration.
– Federalism for Kurds and Alawites.
Sounds like a lot – Assad gives up, is allowed to leave peacefully in return for an agreement that contains the hope for peace without leaving the country in fear of the radicals. This would be Bashar’s greatest victory and legacy to the world.
Best regards. I hope to meet you sometime.
December 5th, 2012, 9:28 pm
Citizen said:
The United States already has three “Syrian scenario” – the media
http://russian.rt.com/Middle_East/1737
Earlier this week, the United States openly warned Syria that if Damascus to use chemical weapons, the effects are not long in coming. The foreign press, in turn, is sure: the Americans have prepared several scenarios.
The White House and U.S. State Department reacted violently to news that Damascus could use gas against the rebel forces. According to the Italian edition of Corriere della Sera, Assad’s chemical arsenal, created with the assistance of Russia and Iran, is quite large and includes several large factories and warehouses for storage.
As the authors of the newspaper, the U.S. has three scenarios for further action. First: the regime is using gas to fight the rebels, arguing that they are terrorists and foreign invaders. Second, weapons fall into the wrong hands, they will take advantage of the extremist groups, and experts deserters help apply it. And finally, the third Damascus just bluffing.
Somehow the United States is preparing for an invasion. According to Corriere della Sera, Amman has upset one of the plans to attack, who should have done insurgents “al-Qaeda”, connected with the Syrian rebels. The third party was Israel. According to reports The Atlantic, Jerusalem, Jordan has twice imposed a plan of attack to destroy stocks of chemical weapons in Syria, but Amman opposed to the idea. Israelis at the same time concerned about the possibility of the fall of the Assad regime, as power in this case will come jihadists. Today, they are firing at the troops of the dictator, but tomorrow they may open fire on the Jewish people. Needless to say, the situation is far worse, if they’ll have weapons such as gas.
Ceychas Americans think about how to send your special forces into Syria, which would have taken under the protection of stocks of chemical weapons. However, this can mean ground military intervention, the consequences of which are unpredictable. Another alternative is to equip the rebels, which almost openly declared Britain. But until now, the United States rejected this possibility, mindful of the arms used by Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, writes the French Le Figaro.
December 5th, 2012, 9:30 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Swiss Member of Parliament Has Had Enough with Islam Filth!
December 5th, 2012, 9:31 pm
Visitor said:
Since Turkey knows where all the missiles are located, then what is it waiting for?
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/05/253519.html
Destroy them.
December 5th, 2012, 9:39 pm
Citizen said:
continuation of 336
USA forcieren Planungen für Syrien-Intervention
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/usa-planen-fuer-militaerische-intervention-in-syrien-a-870876.html
December 5th, 2012, 9:40 pm
Citizen said:
????? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ??????? ?? ?????- ???? ??????
December 5th, 2012, 9:47 pm
Visitor said:
SNP,
Tell your idiot Swiss friend that he if he doesn’t like Switzerland with its current population one third Muslim, he may start putting tiles over the sea.
December 5th, 2012, 9:56 pm
Citizen said:
???? ?????: 80 ??? ????? ??? ??? ???? ????? ?????
338. Is it a joke ?????: ????? ???? 700 ????? ????? ????? ????????
December 5th, 2012, 9:58 pm
Aldendeshe said:
It will take too many tiles, easy final solution: EXTERMINATE them.
December 5th, 2012, 9:59 pm
Visitor said:
@343 Dendeshe,
The stars of mid-noon are closer.
December 5th, 2012, 10:03 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
“He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.” QURAN 9:33
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“…Say: Perish in your rage!…” QURAN 3:119
December 5th, 2012, 10:14 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
http://news.yahoo.com/syrias-bombs-full-nerve-gas-locked-loaded-015820240.html
It is all up to the mass murderer Assad
December 5th, 2012, 10:18 pm
Tara said:
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/b1C6T.6ZKfMl0.WgOal3vA–/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMjA7cT04NTt3PTUxMg–/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/theatlanticwire/Syria_s_Bombs_Full_of_Nerve-cdcb47468d5750facb226677a631550b
Picture of the year! What an innocent angelic sad face. The heart melts for her while the prethident’s bombs are loaded with nerve gas to kill her.
December 5th, 2012, 10:42 pm
MarigoldRan said:
If Assad uses gas, the US will have no choice but to destroy him.
@Zoo
The regime is LOSING. They may not lose tomorrow, or even next week, or even next month. But they are most definitely LOSING.
If the war continues at the current rate, the regime will collapse within two years, and most likely earlier.
The regime can win victories. But they’re temporary. The rebels simply come back at a later time with a larger and better equipped force.
December 5th, 2012, 10:43 pm
zoo said:
336. Citizen
Nothing new. The USA is more confused than ever. France stupidly wants to show the path like they did with the SNC. Turkey is withdrawing behind the NATO patriots and does not complain anymore about the red line of 100,00 refugees long reached and prefers to be forgotten for a while. The Syrian opposition is still divided, polluted and confused.
The ones who hopes that Bashar al Assasd will be forced to go are waking up to a bitter reality. He will not be allowed to go until the opposition is seriously showing unity, credibility and integration of all minorities and the FSA cleaned of the Islamists….
Who can give a time frame for that?
December 5th, 2012, 11:25 pm
zoo said:
#348 Mariglodran
“They may not lose tomorrow, or even next week, or even next month.”
Two years you said?
December 5th, 2012, 11:27 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
Watch to the end, valuable:
December 5th, 2012, 11:30 pm
zoo said:
NATO provides only 3 patriots to Turkey who asked for 10. Turkey is part of NATO, after all, it can’t be continuously rebuffed like it has been rebuffed about the no-fly zone request and the downed turkish plane. With 3 patriota, not a thorough protection but the honor is safe.
Question: Do patriots intercept mortar attacks too?
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/patriots-to-come-in-2013.aspx?pageID=238&nID=36207&NewsCatID=338
The Turkish press reported that Turkey demands 10 batteries to protect a wider region but NATO can provide only three due to a lack of systems
NATO officials say the Patriots will only be used in intercepting Syrian weapons that cross into Turkish airspace, meaning the alliance will be cautious not to interfere with the armed conflict within Syria.
December 5th, 2012, 11:41 pm
Ghufran said:
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???? ???? ?? «????? ??? ?? ?????? ??????????? ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ???????? ???????? ???????»? ?????? ??? ?? «???? ?? ???? ????? ????? ????? ???????? ?? ?????? ?????? ??? ????? ???????? ???????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????????».
???? ?? «????? ????? ???????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ????? (???? ??????????? ????????) ?? ??? ?? ???? (???? ???) ???? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ???????.
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Waiting for GCC pimps to install a democratic government in Syria is a sign of moral confusion not much different from expecting a corrupt regime to reform itself. Manaa was right from day one,that is why he was marginalized by the same people who are lecturing us about freedom and human rights.
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December 5th, 2012, 11:44 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
*AGE OF DECEIT* (FULL) Fallen Angels and the New World Order:
December 5th, 2012, 11:47 pm
zoo said:
The end of the FSA is close… The USA wants only a political transition with a clean opposition.
Adding Islamist group to terror list could hurt Syrian rebel’s efforts
By Elise Labott and Tim Lister
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/05/u-s-to-add-syrian-group-to-terror-list/
The U.S. State Department is planning to designate the al-Nusra Front, a radical Islamist group in Syria, as a Foreign Terrorist Organization, according to two U.S. officials who spoke to CNN on background.
The announcement is likely to come within the next week, the officials said. The State Department has been building the case against the group, which is called Jabhat al-Nusra in Arabic, for several months, according to the officials.
The hope is to finalize the designation just before the next so-called Friends of Syria meeting, scheduled to take place in Morocco December 12. One official said the exact timing of the announcement was still in flux.
The goal of the designation is to isolate extremists groups in Syria while giving a boost to the new political opposition group unveiled at a summit in Doha, Qatar, last month. The United States and other western governments had pushed for the formation of a new opposition group that was more representative of people inside Syria, as opposed to a group mostly comprised of Syrian expatriates.
Al-Nusra and several other groups announced their opposition to the new anti-government coalition last month. “An agreement has been reached to establish a just Islamic state and to reject any foreign project, alliances or councils that are forced on us domestically from any entity, whatever it is,” the statement read.
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The latest U.S. data estimates al-Nusra makes up roughly 9% of the rebel forces battling the regime.
Officials said the administration is not of one mind as to how much the group is intertwined with the rebels. They said the group has deliberately not affiliated itself publicly with al Qaeda, in an apparent effort to not paint itself as extremist.
U.S. officials say the designation of al-Nusra is an effort to highlight the good opposition and express concern about the bad guys.
“We want to put the opposition on notice that these guys are becoming more of an issue and they need to do something about them,” one official said.
December 5th, 2012, 11:53 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
Eisenhaur planes carrying american ship, has just arrived close to Syrian coast, carrying 8000 soldier, 32 plane,17 boat,and has patriot defence system.this is the largest american ship
No it is not two years, not even one more year, not even six months,Assad again has enuresis
December 5th, 2012, 11:59 pm
zoo said:
Morsi, the first elected Islamist dictator is already in a mess. Three of his aides resign and…
Egypt descends into political turmoil
By Associated Press | Associated Press – 8 hrs ago
http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-descends-political-turmoil-201107184.html
CAIRO (AP) — Supporters and opponents of Egyptian leader Mohammed Morsi fought with rocks, firebombs and sticks outside the presidential palace in Cairo on Wednesday in large-scale clashes that marked the worst violence of a deepening crisis over the disputed constitution.
Egypt’s Health Ministry said 126 people were wounded in the clashes that were still raging hours after nightfall.
Three of Morsi’s aides resigned in protest of his handling of the crisis. With two aides who had quit earlier, now five of his panel of 17 advisers have left their jobs since the problems began.
Mohamed ElBaradei, a leading opposition advocate of reform and democracy, said Morsi’s rule was “no different” from that of former President Hosni Mubarak, whose authoritarian regime was toppled in an uprising nearly two years ago.
“In fact, it is perhaps even worse,” the Nobel Peace Laureate told a news conference after he accused the president’s supporters of a “vicious and deliberate” attack on peaceful demonstrators.
December 6th, 2012, 12:09 am
annie said:
Painfully true !
Too Little Too Late
Rime Allaf
Rime Allaf is a Syrian writer. She is on Twitter.
December 5, 2012
In August, when President Obama first stated that Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons would be a “red line,” the message to Assad was loud and clear: Everything else was permissible.
More than three months and many more thousands of Syrian victims later, Obama has inexplicably reiterated this objection. But by warning against the use of chemical weapons, he has once again merely reassured Assad that barrel bombs, missiles, cluster bombs and bullets are acceptable tools to slaughter his people.
Whether by design or by mistake, the Obama administration’s hedging has diminished U.S. influence over Syrians.
What could have been interpreted as political caution in a pre-election climate must be considered in a different context now that Obama has settled comfortably into his second term. In fact, his latest statement sounds rather like a promise: If Assad doesn’t change the current parameters, the U.S. won’t either.
Semantics aside, it is clear that his refusal to increase pressure on the Assad regime, which many had expected would happen in November, means that Obama is encouraging the status quo. Indeed, the only pressure the U.S. seems to have been exerting recently has been on its allies.
The U.S. has done everything it could to impede actions that could have tipped the balance against Assad. From urging its Gulf allies to refrain from arming the resistance, to holding back a fellow NATO member, Turkey, from responding even when the Assad regime shot one of its fighter jets, to refusing to immediately recognize the coalition that the Syrian opposition finally managed to put together, every overt or covert U.S. action has been a protraction of its first response to the uprising, in March 2011. This is when the secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton, said members of Congress had described Assad as a reformer, just days after the massacre of dozens of peaceful demonstrators.
Far from being indecisive on Syria, the U.S. has demonstrated that it is consistent, albeit with a questionable rationale, when it comes to letting Syrians fight it out among themselves before deciding to swoop in, perhaps, when the country is at a breaking point. With most cities destroyed beyond recognition, with some five million refugees and displaced Syrians, with hundreds of thousands disappeared in Assad’s jails and well over 40,000 killed by the regime, and with extremist factions fighting their own battles to boot, it seems that we are now close to such a breaking point.
Could this explain the sudden buzz about chemical weapons? It is peculiar that the U.S. would still rely on the “weapons of mass destruction” line, à la Iraq, to justify intervention of some kind after having lost the moral high ground and allowed the bloodshed to continue unhindered. If the U.S. were counting on eventually playing a leading role at this late stage, it should have factored in Syrians’ current reactions. Whether by design or by mistake, the Obama administration has diminished any influence over Syrians it once had.
Syrians fighting the regime were at first perplexed by Obama’s attitude. With time, they have become more indignant and more determined. Oddly, it was the realization that no help would come without U.S. approval that gave revolutionaries their impetus, bringing the battle to the regime’s ultimate stronghold, Damascus. After the brutality he unleashed all over the country, the horror Assad will try to impose on the capital is certain to reach unimaginable levels. Had the U.S. allowed others to help restrain Assad, the outcome could have been different.
Russia and Iran have actively supported the Assad regime, but the U.S. allowed the massacre to go on. On Monday, Obama said: “Today I want to make it absolutely clear to Assad and those under his command: The world is watching.” Indeed, as Syrians fight for survival, the world is watching — and forming its own opinions.
December 6th, 2012, 12:17 am
zoo said:
While Egypt has not reported the transit of the Eisenhower in the Suez canal, the Israeli Debkafile reports:
USS Eisenhower aircraft carrier arrives off Syrian shore
DEBKAfile Special Report December 5, 2012, 4:20 PM (GMT+02:00)
http://www.debka.com/article/22586/USS-Eisenhower-aircraft-carrier-arrives-off-Syrian-shore
The USS Eisenhower Strike Group transited the Suez Canal from the Persian Gulf Saturday, Dec. 1, sailing up to the Syrian coast Tuesday in a heavy storm, with 8 fighter bomber squadrons of Air Wing Seven on its decks and 8,000 sailors, airmen and Marines.
The USS Eisenhower group joins the USS Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group which carries 2,500 Marines.
Facing Syria now are 10,000 US fighting men, 70 fighter-bombers and at least 17 warships, including the three Iwo Jima amphibious craft, a guided missile cruiser and 10 destroyers and frigates.
Four of these vessels are armed with Aegis missile interceptors.
…..
While the Obama administration has not announced any sort of American-led military intervention in the war-torn country, the US is now ready to launch such action “within days” if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad decides to use chemical weapons against the opposition, the Times reports.
December 6th, 2012, 12:21 am
Altair said:
Dear Sheila (333.), (I like the “dear” touch btw 🙂
If there is no common sense, can they, and especially Bashar, not at least see the writing on the wall?
This is not 1982. Hafiz got away with crushing his opposition with scarcely a peep from from the West or any one else, which seems to indicate he was a collaborator all along (Some day the documents will probably reveal this). I still remember an article called “The Best Asad We’ve Got” in either a UK or US newspaper arguing in favor of supporting him AFTER the Hamah massacre (you can always count on hypocrisy from the West when interests are at stake). After all, Hafiz crushed the Palestinians and their Lebanese allies in 1976 (remember Tal al-Za’tar?).
What’s sad about Bashar is that he probably wasn’t a collaborator, or wasn’t sufficiently subservient, and he had popularity at the beginning of the crisis. Bashar is suffering the fate that should have awaited his father. I for one wanted to see him switch sides and lead the revolution. It was an idle and hopeless dream. He simply didn’t have the leadership skills, nor the vision.
But I don’t think he had the disdain for his people and country that Hafiz did. Bashar got trapped into a system of his father’s making, an unreformable system and probably got spoiled by it. Or in other words, “it went to his head”.
If he loves his country, any residual love at all, he should step down, even if he risks war crimes trials. That would be a heroic sacrifice, not doing what he’s doing. The era of the Arab tough guy is over.
December 6th, 2012, 12:22 am
zoo said:
That was on 18th july 2012. Egypt reported it. The trip took 14 hours in the Suez Canal… Plenty of time to get noticed by the media. But not this time, only DEBkafile!!
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/us-aircraft-carrier-passes-through-suez-canal
The US aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower CVN-69 passed through the Suez Canal on Wednesday, carrying 113,000 tons of cargo en route to the Persian Gulf.
Sources told the state-run MENA news service that the aircraft carrier was escorted by four US warships and special Suez Canal Authority tug boats.
The trip took 14 hours, during which the Suez Canal Authority took strict security measures, including prohibiting passenger ferries from crossing the canal or cars from driving on roads alongside it.
December 6th, 2012, 12:26 am
majedkhaldoun said:
Patriot system supporting strong Turkish army from the north, several military american ships stationed to the west, American Jordanian troops in the south, and 8000 american advisors to the east, Assad has no where to go,
Nero committed suicide, Bashar is so coward,he won’t
Altair
I too thought Bashar will side with the Arab masses, he missed the chance, and he missed the chance when the revolution was all over Syria, he should have resign ,he probably does not think about his family,let alone his community, very poor judgement,just like Zoo
December 6th, 2012, 12:36 am
Ghufran said:
If the US wants to attack it will not wait for WMDs to be used, Russia should not allow those weapons to be used by the regime,but if the regime does exactly that, the Russians will not be able to stop the international community from intervening. Another scenario is the possibility of finding an insider who will get paid to detonate a bomb or fire a rocket with chemical agents and use that to justify an attack, as you can see, chemical weapons are secondary to whether a decision to attack was made or not.
For a political solution to be found, Assad must go and the army must not crash, I do not think we will be talking about Bashar much longer ,if the leaks from Russia are true.
When I posted the news about Jabhat Al-nusrah I was skeptical but it seems like the US may now have a plan,GCC clowns and their ghilmaans will do what Uncle Sam tells them to do, when the bear and the eagle have a deal, rats and gooaattsss have to listen.
December 6th, 2012, 12:42 am
Johannes de Silentio said:
362. Majedkhaldoun
“Nero committed suicide, Bashar is so coward,he won’t”
Nero’s last day of life:
Nero spent the evening in the palace. After sleeping, he awoke at about midnight to find the palace guard had left. Dispatching messages to his friends’ palace chambers for them to come, he received no answers. Upon going to their chambers personally, he found them all gone. When he called for a gladiator or anyone else adept with a sword to kill him, no one appeared. He cried, “Have I neither friend nor foe?” and ran out as if to throw himself into the river.
Returning, Nero sought for some place where he could hide and collect his thoughts. An imperial freedman, Phaon, offered his villa, located 4 miles outside the city. Travelling in disguise, Nero and four loyal freedman, Epaphroditos, Phaon, Neophytus, and Sporus, reached the villa, where Nero ordered them to dig a grave for him. At this time, a courier arrived with a report that the Senate had declared Nero a public enemy and that it was their intention to execute him.
At this news, Nero prepared himself for suicide. Losing his nerve, he first begged for one of his companions to set an example by first killing himself. At last, the sound of approaching horsemen drove Nero to face the end. However, he still could not bring himself to take his own life but instead he forced his private secretary, Epaphroditos, to perform the task. Nero’s famous dying words were “What an artist in me dies!”
December 6th, 2012, 2:14 am
Observer said:
Morsi suffered a defeat. Even if his so called constitutional decrees pass there will be from now on a huge suspicion and continued objections to his rule.
7 of his advisors quit. His attempt to hijack the revolution to the side of the MB has failed.
Those who voted for him will not do so again. He only got 55% of the vote.
Now, the pro regime people like ZOO tell us how bad it is for the Egyptian regime to have defections but call it a “purification” of the regime if it happens in Syria. ( remember ALI when he said good riddance when Makdisi left ).
This mentality speaks volumes about the racist views of the regime towards its opponents and again by dehumanizing the people of Syria you permit their slaughter wholesale.
NBC reported that he has armed some bombs with Sarin gas. If he does use chemical weapons and I have always believed that he will do so, there will be a genocide of many a group as he is going down like Samson.
On another point, I heard that his wife is 5 months pregnant. Where will she deliver and is this why he sent delegations to Latin America to explore for Asylum?
Do we have movement at the Damascus airport?
Where is ALI when we need him to tell us what the inner circle is deciding and how many innocents his father freed with his big Wasta stick.
December 6th, 2012, 7:49 am
Visitor said:
The most important issue facing the revolution post thug is the Syrian currency.
Aside from the fact that it is rapidly deteriorating (20% in November alone), Syrians cannot keep carrying currency notes with pictures of thugs on them!!!
December 6th, 2012, 7:50 am
zoo said:
What Ban really said:
“UN Chief says Assad must face ‘justice’ IF chemical arms used ”
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/un-chief-says-assad-must-face-justice-if-chemical-arms-used-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=36250&NewsCatID=359
“UN chief Ban Ki-moon said on Thursday that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad should be “brought to justice” if his regime uses chemical weapons to combat the armed revolt in his country.”
Bashar Al Assad has repeated at infinitum that, even if Syria had such weapons, it won’t use them.
So Ban’s remark is food for the media as the rebels are loosing the ‘decisive’ Damascus war and will soon be crippled with 10% of their elite warriors will be labelled ‘terrorists’ by the USA..
In sign of despair, most media skip the second part of the sentence…
December 6th, 2012, 8:39 am
Visitor said:
What is it with the Middle/Upper class?
Is the merchant mentality so entwined with their character that they cannot hold on to their homeland and take a stand and fight?
How should they be ‘rewarded’ post thug?
Is the characteristically-Syrian merchant mentality a blessing or a curse?
December 6th, 2012, 8:43 am
zoo said:
Observer
Defecting the ruling Moslem Brotherhood is a premiere…
In Syria we already saw many defections such as Khaddam, Tlass, Al Assad etc…
They had little significance on the resilience of the Baath party, while for the MB it is a serious blow and they may loose the next stage, as yourself are predicting.
Media are rushing to announce that the Damascus airport is closed to traffic and much less hurried to announce when it reopens.
December 6th, 2012, 8:45 am
zoo said:
A message from his friends to Hollande about drinking wine…
????? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ???????? ??? ?????? ???? : ???? ?????? “? ??????? ????????” ?????? ?????
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu5gtd_yyyyy-yyyyy-yyyyyy-yyyyy-yyyyyy-yyyyyyy-yyy-yyyyyy-yyyy-yyyy-yyyyyy-y-yyyyyyy-yyyyyyyy-yyyyyy-yyyyy_news#from=embediframe
December 6th, 2012, 8:59 am
Tara said:
They should allow us a glass of wine or its equivalent once a week.
December 6th, 2012, 9:16 am
majedkhaldoun said:
self deception is rampant among pro bashar
“as the rebels are loosing the ‘decisive’ Damascus war”Zoo said
They live in a different world
Observer said
Where is ALI when we need him to tell us what the inner circle is deciding
If he has news he likes he will say it , if not he will stay quiet.
December 6th, 2012, 9:16 am
Visitor said:
MK @372,
Actually, Zoo has the flu.
December 6th, 2012, 9:54 am
Citizen said:
361. ZOO
Fuck! Are they looking for False Flag? Region became game-land of Shaitans!
Media: U.S. aircraft carrier “Dwight Eisenhower” came to the shores of Syria
LONDON, December 5. / Correspondent. ITAR-TASS Makarchev /.
Impact multipurpose nuclear aircraft carrier U.S. Navy “Dwight Eisenhower” led naval strategy group arrived in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea and is in close proximity to the coast of Syria. This was reported today the British media.
“Last Saturday, December 1st aircraft carrier has passed the Suez Canal and entered the Mediterranean Sea, where it was caught by a powerful storm, – the London radio. – Last night,” Dwight Eisenhower “went to Syrian waters.”
According to available information, on board an aircraft carrier are 70 fighter-bombers, and the total number of sailors, airmen and Marines on board is 8 thousand
“Dwight Eisenhower” joined located almost two weeks off the coast of Syria amphibious helicopter carrier “Iwo Jima.”
As a result, detailed in this part of the eastern Mediterranean Sea strategic group now has 17 ships. Its membership also includes one cruiser with cruise missiles on board, 10 destroyers and frigates. Four ships are armed with multipurpose missile defense system “Aegis” .
With the arrival of the aircraft carrier the total number of U.S. military personnel on warships in the vicinity of Syria, reached 10 thousand
December 6th, 2012, 10:17 am
zoo said:
#374 Citizen
If it’s true, then it is clearly to prevent the Jabhat al Nusra, now labelled ‘terrorist’ to take hold of the chemical weapons and threaten neighboring countries allies to the USA. The western community now realizes that the terrorists are a much bigger threat to the neighbors than the Syrian army that actually never threatened them and that something has to be done to stop them.
It is obvious that Bashar will not use such weapons at a time when the FSA is collapsing and the international community is discarding a military intervention and pressing for a political transition based on the Geneva agreement.
In fact it is the desperate rebels who are after these weapons, since they are not getting any “lethal” weapons from the west. With the imminent NATO presence on the borders, the rebels won’t get any from Turkey either.
After the failed attempt on the US embassy by ‘terrorists’ infiltrated from Syria and Iraq, Jordan is watching carefully its borders, filtering the refugees and preventing any traffic.
The anti-Syria media prefer to see this display of force as a pressure on Bashar, while I see it, together as the official recognition of 10% of the rebels being terrorists, as a pressure on the opposition ahead of the 12th december where the opposition will be pressed to take the responsibility of the armed militias in order to get a serious recognition.
The USA will intervene only if there is a serious danger that the chemical weapons fall into the hands of the ‘terrorists’.
That danger certainly exists.
December 6th, 2012, 10:45 am
zoo said:
Is the Moslem Brotherhood mismanagement and obsolete ideology triggering an Arab-liberal spring to replace the Islamic-conservative fresh government?
Riots hint at potential chaos in Tunisia’s future
By By PAUL SCHEMM | Associated Press – 20 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/riots-hint-potential-chaos-tunisias-future-153129713.html
RABAT, Morocco (AP) — Five days of riots last week in a town in Tunisia’s impoverished interior wounded hundreds of people and deepened the rift between the two most powerful forces in this North African country: the moderate Islamist ruling party and the main labor union.
With the two at loggerheads, the threat of a nationwide general strike next week could plunge the economically struggling country back into chaos, endangering its government and its transition to democracy nearly two years after Tunisians ousted a dictator and kicked off the Arab Spring revolutions.
Tunisians’ dissatisfaction with their post-revolution government has yet to reach the dramatic levels in Egypt, where hundreds of thousands are protesting President Mohammed Morsi’s recent decision to vastly expand his powers.
December 6th, 2012, 10:56 am
zoo said:
More drum beating rumors from ‘informed rebels sources’.
Season 5: The chemical weapons saga.
Bashar will use the chemical weapons if he can’t reach a “political solution”. Which political solution are we talking about?
Assad regime distributed gas masks and radiation suits to troops – Source
06/12/2012
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=32069
By Caroline Akoum
Beirut, Asharq Al-Awsat – Despite repeated international warnings to the al-Assad regime against the use of chemical weapons, the Free Syrian Army [FSA] has stated that it believes it likely that al-Assad will use such weapons as a last resort should it lose hope in the possibility of reaching a political solution.
December 6th, 2012, 11:06 am
Ghufran said:
????????? ?? ????? ??????? ????? ??????? ?????? ???????? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ?????. ??? ?? ????? ????? «???????? ?????» ?????????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ???????? ??????? ??????? ????. ???? ???? ???? ????? ???? ????? «?? ?????? ????» ?????????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ????????? ???????? ??? ??????? ??????? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ???????? ???? ?????? ????????. ???? ?? ???? ???? ??? ????????? ??? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???????? ???? ?????? ?????. ?????? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ????.
????? ??? ??? ???????? ???????? ???? «?????? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ???????? ??? ???? ??????? ?????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????? ???????????». ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ????????? ???? ?????? ?? ??? ????????? ???????? ??????? ????? ???????? ????????? ??????? ????? ???????. ??? ????? ??? ??? «????????? ?????????» ?? ????? ???? ????? ??? ?? «???? ?????? ?? ??????? ???????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????». ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? «??? ???????? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????». ???? ???? ???? ??? ?? ??? ??? ??????? ????? ???????? ???? ??????? ???????? ???????? ?? ?????? ?????? ??? ???????? ????????? ??? ???? ??? ?????. «???????? ?? ????? ?? ?????»? ???? ??? ????.
A lot of what goes on in Syria today is about the money, that allows a gas baboon like Hammoudeh to have influence in a country like Syria.
December 6th, 2012, 11:12 am
ghufran said:
It won’t be long before Uqab disappear from Turkey,like others before him, he is also a target now for a number of competing intelligence services after his security was breached and sensitive information that implicates Saad Hariri, Bandar (KSA) and foreign governments may become available if “preventive” measures are not taken, supposedly the guy who leaked the tapes is asking for a lot of money that only oil and gas baboons can provide. the easiest way for GCC pipms to contain this scandal is to get rid of the guy, after all he is just a once useful Lebanese Shia boy whose time has come. Some suggested that a double agent betrayed him but I think he was likely the victim of Turkey’s secret police dirty games to remove burnt and expired pipms.
forget Uqab and look at this:
CNN reported Monday that Syrian forces battling rebels in fierce fighting had started combining chemicals that could be used to make deadly sarin gas for weapons. NBC reported Wednesday night that Syria is loading chemical weapons into bombs. CNN has not confirmed the NBC report
December 6th, 2012, 12:12 pm
MarigoldRan said:
The regime’s losing, Zoo. I don’t know what world you live in, but everyone else can see that the regime’s bloody final days are approaching.
December 6th, 2012, 12:22 pm
Visitor said:
MGR @ 380,
Actually, we are enjoying the circus show that Zoo and Ghufran are providing.
Why do you want to deprive us this spectacle???
December 6th, 2012, 12:32 pm
ghufran said:
???? ???? ????????? ?????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ??????? ?????? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ????? “??? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ????? ??????”, ??? ?? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ????????.
$ reached 92 Lira yesterday compared to 46 two years ago, and bread was sold for as high as 200 Lira a bag in Aleppo and natural gas reached 5,000 / tank.I say let those thawrajiyyeh take over the government and fix this mess they help create in the first place, rebel leader AQ Saleh and his partners collected millions from theft, foreign money, smuggling. kidnapping and “taxses” while they look at Syrians in “liberated” areas stand in lines for hours to get few loafs of bread.
If you have not figured out that this war is played by two parties of thugs and that the only victims of this war is innocent people you will never get it.
December 6th, 2012, 12:37 pm
Aldendeshe said:
that allows a gas baboon like Hammoudeh to have influence in a country like Syria.
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I would not want to be living in a country like Qatar, sitting on all that gas man, you know what happen to gas when it meet a lighted match stick. Someone smoking a Camel cigarette and drop his butt there, man..oh…man BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM here goes Qatar and its Baffoons. In seconds, the desert and Moslem beasts living there will be looking like Syria today.
December 6th, 2012, 12:38 pm
Badr said:
“the regime’s bloody final days are approaching”
Well by the date those final days are over, will Damascus have a better luck than Aleppo and Homs?
Darkness at noon in the mind of fearful Damascus
(Reuters) By Erika Solomon
December 6th, 2012, 12:55 pm
Aldendeshe said:
I say let those thawrajiyyeh take over the government and fix this mess they help create in the first place,
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Yeah, wait if the Moslem Terrorists win (sure) the $ will be 300 LS the next day (6000 in month) , no foreign reserves will be available at the central bank and the price of bread will be triple to 600 liras for a bag. All businesmen escape to Beirut with money and industries all bombed out, Oil fields are blown up and wheat fields on fire. WOW, a perfect breading ground to get some brave men to move south to Dhahran, Dubai and Emirates where all the wealth, expensive booze and whores are dime a dozen. Time to get drunk, drag a Paki Sunni whore and go piss on the Kabba for for fun.
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We all be singing with the American oilmen, Burn Mother F*****kr burn.
December 6th, 2012, 12:55 pm
Visitor said:
Chief Strategist @383 & 385,
Meet your master,
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/06/253676.html
December 6th, 2012, 12:59 pm
Aldendeshe said:
My master has a pus**sy and long flowing blond hair, blue eyes. .
December 6th, 2012, 1:06 pm
Visitor said:
Chief Strategist @387,
“My master has a pus**sy and long flowing blond hair, blue eyes.”
You may not have noticed yet. But the angel went through a transfiguration during the fall. See AlDendeshe @354.
You have to live with real masters from now on not fake ones!!
December 6th, 2012, 1:17 pm
ghufran said:
???? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ???? «???? ???? ?????». ????? ????? «??????» ???????? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?? «??????? ?????? ??????? ??????» ????? ?? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??????? ???? ??????? ???? ?? ?????? ????? ????
the coastal region has absorbed close to a million Syrian internal refugees.
December 6th, 2012, 1:28 pm
ann said:
PRESIDENT MURSI LEFT THE COUNTRY!
December 6th, 2012, 2:03 pm
ann said:
386. Visitor said:
“”” Meet your master “””
We know who your lord and master is:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiw2a9_netanyahu-speaks-to-us-congress-pt-1-of-4_shortfilms?start=8
December 6th, 2012, 2:12 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Jesus Appears And Saves 2 Egyptian Muslim Children Buried Alive!
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/jesus-appears-and-saves-2-muslim-children-buried-alive-2507826.html
December 6th, 2012, 2:17 pm
Tara said:
Aldendeshe
Please know that we do not bother responding to your repeated insults of Islam just because all of us know that your are mentally insane therefore no one bothers. I do not know why I just decided that I am bothered enough..
Sorry but this needs to be said so you are aware.
December 6th, 2012, 2:25 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
those pro bashar keep contradicting themselves
Ghufran
Sometimes ago you said A Q Saaleh is dead, now you say he is alive!
you said Qassem Saad Al Deen is dead, he is alive, do you believe in resurrection?
December 6th, 2012, 2:27 pm
Aldendeshe said:
PRESIDENT MURSI LEFT THE COUNTRY!
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He is on official visit to Paris Moulin Rouge. He is rich now, he no longer waste his time on bending over at the Kabbaa, He learned from Arabs, Qatari Dictator for life gave him VIP tickets.
December 6th, 2012, 2:31 pm
Observer said:
ZOO
Reilience of the Baath party my foot. One can argue that both the MB and the Baath are resilient for the former has been around for over 60 years and suffered numerous executions and arrests and banning and yet they are still around. Defections are defections and there is major objections to the legitimacy of both dictatorships. Trying to paint the regime in Syria with a shred of legitimacy is futile. THis is an illegitimate oppressive barbaric corrupt and corrupting mafia regime without an ounce of humanity or decency in it and the regime like its supporters from Putin to Khamenei passing by HA leader have removed the skin of the their behind and put it on their faces in trying to defend the regime.
Putin has been put squarely back in place with him trying to play a super power role and coming way short of it. The bleeding of the regime is now a bleeding of Russia and a bleeding of its standing in the Arab and Muslim world.
Iran considers that the use of chemical weapons to be a mortal sin and even in the Iran Iraq war they refused to retaliate or try to acquire chemical weapons capability to defend against Saddam using his stockpile. Cynical West even provided him with satellite imagery of the troops to bomb. Iran if it appears to be siding with a regime willing of using chemical weapons is finished for at least two generations in the Sunni Arab world.
Makdisi defection is another Tlass defection nothing more than an attmept to find a refuge for his family at least.
The noose is closing the master terrorist is none other than the regime in Syria. It has failed and is now a criminal enterprise the likes of which the modern ME has seen only in Iraq under Saddam.
Lavrov as we speak is getting his red lines and marching orders from none other than Hillary as we speak.
Justice for Hamza
Cheers
December 6th, 2012, 2:32 pm
Aldendeshe said:
@JEWISH TARA
ISLAM DOES GREAT JOB INSULTING ITSELF, MOSLEMS DO GREAT JOB AT CONVINCING EVERYONE HOW INSULTING ISLAM IS TO HUMANITY. I AM JUST REPORTING FACTS.
December 6th, 2012, 2:34 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Islam in sane people eyes:
December 6th, 2012, 2:48 pm
Tara said:
Aldendeshe/SNP
Do you have any insight that you are abnormally crazy? Or have the reptilians convinced you otherwise? Please take your meds and spare us your madness.. You are becoming annoying.
December 6th, 2012, 2:53 pm
Visitor said:
Dendeshe the donkey strategist @398
So, based on your so-called reporting in that video, why no body killed you yet?
December 6th, 2012, 2:56 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
THE HIDDEN ORIGIN OF ISLAM:
December 6th, 2012, 3:08 pm
Visitor said:
Dendeshe/SNP/Donkey Strategist
Idiot quack dimwit
December 6th, 2012, 3:22 pm
Aldendeshe said:
VISITOR is highly educated Moslem, he is given the highest ranking of Islamic titles possible by the Mahdi-Mullah: SLAVE OF ALLAH AND HIS IGNORANCE. Those assaulting comments he and others left were the best replies for the “Hidden Origin of Islam” video made by several PHD’s researchers in Europe, based on earlier discovered version of that trashy psychedelic nonsense that only mentally deranged Bedouin could fabricate to deceive humanity.
The Quran claims to be “revelation of the truth” It seems that the only thing the Moslem don’t won’t you to read is TRUTH. Why, because the Quran is not truth, it is a “Re*p*til^^lia*n” deception programming and conditioning thru repetition. That is why truth is threat to them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hctsFlGVcs
December 6th, 2012, 3:42 pm
Visitor said:
Dendeshe or donkey strategist,
So now you stupid idiot care about assaulting comments that you rightly deserved by your insanity? But you give yourself the full liberty to insult one third the world population?
Who do you think you are idiot? You think we are waiting for you to show us cheap videos? You think you know what others don’t know?
Listen carefully, stupid idiot, you better smarten up from now on or you are going to be trampled upon like dirt. Either you behave sanely or …
And do not play the senile from now on.
December 6th, 2012, 3:51 pm
SYR.EXPAT said:
Meanwhile, the FSA heroes are busy taking out the tanks of the terrorist Syrian regime.
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December 6th, 2012, 3:51 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Learn Islam in 10 minutes:
December 6th, 2012, 3:59 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH
You can never have Democracy and Islam:
MUST WATCH AND READ: for those interested in knowing the truth about Islam: (this is most infromative interview about Islam and Middle East politically)
http://www.inthenameofallah.org/index.html
December 6th, 2012, 4:06 pm
Dolly Buster said:
Wahhabism is the best religion. I can also respect people who shun religion altogether and stick to science. But, I can’t respect those who accept inferior religions like Christianity, and bash superior religions like Salafism.
Waleed “Batsh?t” Shoebat is one such person.
December 6th, 2012, 4:15 pm
5 dancing shlomos said:
the louder america speaks the bigger the lie.
the more america blathers the greater the number of lies.
December 6th, 2012, 4:32 pm
Ghufran said:
If the Syrian rebels are so powerful and plentiful why do they have to accept foreign jihadists and resort to car bombs and attacks on civilian targets ?
People who cry over the destruction of Syria but still support terrorist acts and terrorist organizations are morally bankrupt and potentially legally liable too (if they live in the West),they say they oppose the regime but they are indeed partners with the regime in this bloody mess. Syria will be better off without all thugs whether they raise the Assad flag or the Islamist terrorist flag, people are now sick of both, the country can be rebuilt and healed with the help of citizens who want to live and let live, in that sense I believe in the resurrection of Syria, the messengers of death can only deliver what they possess: death.
December 6th, 2012, 4:36 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
408. Dolly Buster said:
Wahhabism is the best religion. I can also respect people who shun religion altogether and stick to science. But, I can’t respect those who accept inferior religions like Christianity, and bash superior religions like Salafism.
Waleed “Batsh?t” Shoebat is one such person.
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….Will continues to expose Islam by posting valuable videos and links to materials very informative about Islam and Moslems by scholars who spent decades on research.
Afterward, will bring to your attention valuable materials so you can understand why is the United States are supporting Islam and Moslem revolutions in the world, why Europeans are tolerating the coming demise of own states. You will learn about the astronomical debt obligation these government’s faces that can never be paid and how the Secret Satanic Rulers reached the END GAME PLAN, instigating a Christian-Moslem warfare plot (replacing West vs. Communism) that will lead to WWIII, coinciding with the War in Heaven with Aliens. Later, will re-structure the entire bits and pieces given here and elsewhere into a step by step structure that will be posted at http://www.ssnps.com
December 6th, 2012, 4:38 pm
Ghufran said:
Get used to my circus show, it will only end when the thugs stop dancing:
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December 6th, 2012, 4:39 pm
Syrialover said:
“If your religion is worth killing for, please start with yourself”
(and yourself only – forget the lost, sad suicide bomb act, usually carried out by kids being manipulated by others who would never risk their lives themselves).
December 6th, 2012, 4:44 pm
Ghufran said:
Let me try to make sense of this insanity:
20 Islamists from Lebanon sneaked into Tal Kalahk to participate in the war in Syria, they get ambushed and most were killed, what was the response?
Thugs in Tripoli started another war to kill other Lebanese :
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December 6th, 2012, 4:57 pm
Syrialover said:
GHUFRAN #401 declared:
“If the Syrian rebels are so powerful and plentiful why do they have to accept foreign jihadists and resort to car bombs and attacks on civilian targets ”
Please GHUFRAN, please, please tell us:
1. How do you stop (or “de-accept”) a fireball that Assad himself got rolling with imported terrorist movements
2. A fireball that the Assadists themselves are mimicking with strategically placed car bombs and other tactics
3. A sure quick recipe for the FSA to control these uninvited, self-styled war enthusiasts while dealing with the full force of a national army + all its security forces and thug gangs PLUS Iran and Russia
And, above all,
4. What if any rationale there is for the FSA to intervene in them attacking the Assadist forces while Assad is furiously burning Syria with all the help he can get from Hezbollah, Iran and Russia.
December 6th, 2012, 5:03 pm
Citizen said:
US ramps up threats in ‘psychological’ war on Assad
http://rt.com/news/syria-chemical-weapons-rebels-460/
December 6th, 2012, 5:08 pm
Ghufran said:
Landis in the news:
( the article is a good read for people who do not have their brain trapped in their testicles)
“Nobody knows what they’re thinking in the regime’s inner circles, but to the extent that the regime is making rational decisions, it doesn’t make much sense to take the ‘Samson option’ and use chemical weapons,” says University of Oklahoma Syria scholar Joshua Landis, referring to the Biblical figure who wanted to take down all with him as he died fighting. ”Unlike Gaddafi in Libya, Assad is ruling on behalf of a community, and the key decisions may not be his alone to make. The Alawite strongmen around him don’t want to commit suicide. They want to protect themselves and their families from the violent retribution they fear is inevitable if the regime falls.” That, argues Landis, may make them more likely to favor a retreat to the Alawite heartland along the coast, where they’ll have a greater base of strength than they do in Damascus. If so, the regime, as we know it, will have fallen, but the civil war would be far from over”.
Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/12/06/is-syrias-civil-war-entering-its-final-act-or-poised-for-a-new-phase/#ixzz2EJPBm6dG
December 6th, 2012, 5:11 pm
Citizen said:
As a result of a mortar attack near school Muhayo Alvafedeyn province of Damascus, which occurred on December 4, in the classroom program in grade 9 killed 29 students and one teacher.
In a small video footage from the funeral of the dead and of the hospital where the wounded. No sound. No comment.
http://video.yandex.ua/users/news-anna2012/view/165
December 6th, 2012, 5:13 pm
Aldendeshe said:
If the Syrian rebels are so powerful and plentiful why do they have to accept foreign jihadists and resort to car bombs and attacks on civilian targets ?
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They look big because of the strategy they use and the dim wit Assad poor leadership and lack of strategy. We alwys said Assad must Declare State of War and Institute a 22 Hours curfew nationally, and then allow controlled movement only sector by sector under strict security and identification.
He did not, and the mercenaries are using the same strategy Mohammad used to defeat Quraishy. When he chose the location of the battle in way that made his opponent see his army, yet he instructed half his units to turn around in circle, around a mountain peak so every circle they made it looked to the opponent as fresh unit arriving so he deceived the Quraishy into thinking that he has huge army, endlessly arriving, therefore, they did not commit all their units at once, saved them, in their estimation for the newly arriving units. Should they known this deceptive trick and committed all their forces to battle at once, humanity will be saved today from this hell called Islam. Very unfortunate event indeed, But as they sent few unit to fight at time, it was a force Mohammad small army can wipe out when all his actual small force fought it out. In the end, the Quraishy were out of men ad Mohammad won the Battle with deceptive tactic. The mercenaries are using the very same tactic against Assad.
This battle is famous in Islam and Mohammad wars of genocide, it was the turning point for Islam, I forgot its name but you learn that in an obligatory Islamic teaching class the Baathist insisted on teaching in schools along with Baath Revolutionary Guidance Class. I must admit that I was a troubled student in both (loved the confrontation) It was my only way out to attack both of the idiots ideas and put them on the spot. Wars in the classroom and outside the break marred 10th grade class where the teachers of both subject got attacked and those defending them at Abdul Hamid Zehrawi High School.
December 6th, 2012, 5:15 pm
zoo said:
The auto-destuction of the FSA is looming.
Many expect a fierce battle to break out between the Salafists and the al-Nusra Front on one hand and the other armed groups on the other, under the pretext of uniting the [Free Syrian Army]… The FSA cannot unite without settling the Salafist and jihadist issue once and for all. That may happen if the West puts this as condition for sending arms, some believe.
Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/12/06/is-syrias-civil-war-entering-its-final-act-or-poised-for-a-new-phase/#ixzz2EJglVbIJ
December 6th, 2012, 6:15 pm
Citizen said:
Syrian rebels planning chemical attacks against Assad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vUttYd-4u4
According to unconfirmed information, the Syrian rebels are planning a chemical attack against supporters of President Bashar Assad. On the Internet, the video was posted in which, presumably, the Syrian opposition gunman killed rabbits with chemical weapons. Report RT correspondent Paula Slier.
There is evidence that the Syrian rebels might be planning an attack using chemical weapons against the supporters of Bashar al-Assad. On Thursday, the video appeared on the Internet in which the alleged gunman Syrian opposition kills rabbits with chemical weapons – they die in just a minute. The masked man says:
You, the enemies of Allah, shall die like two rabbits. Believe me – we will destroy you our chemical and biological weapons. See for yourself: these rabbits were breathing gas just a minute – and no more. You face the same fate, because you are supporting Bashar Assad. God is great. God is great. You’ll see. We – the soldiers himbatalona Asarsar Ar-Ri, we will destroy you our chemical weapons.
It should be noted that no one has yet been able to verify the authenticity of the video, but terrible to imagine the consequences of such an attack.
December 6th, 2012, 6:24 pm
annie said:
http://youtu.be/vMkmjrU2b8s
We do what we can to support the Syrian people, here in Brussels, hence this action at the entrance of Bozar on the occasion of an important session on Europe
December 6th, 2012, 6:28 pm
Visitor said:
The Zoo circus:
Highlights in his post only what Tony Karon quotes the rag tag Assafir as speculation:
“Many expect a fierce battle to break out between the Salafists and the al-Nusra Front on one hand and the other armed groups on the other, under the pretext of uniting the [Free Syrian Army]… The FSA cannot unite without settling the Salafist and jihadist issue once and for all. That may happen if the West puts this as condition for sending arms, some believe.
But the circus Zoo leaves what Tony Karon himself had to say immediately following the rag tag speculations:
“Civil wars, within civil wars, along the lines of those fought in Lebanon between 1976 and 1992 may be viewed as the best hope of survival by the hard men of the regime who turned Syria’s rebellion into a bloody sectarian war almost two years ago. That war has steadily dismembered the Syrian state; rebuilding it on new terms could take many turbulent years. At least, that’s what the more far-sighted in Assad’s circles may be hoping”
Obviously Tony Karon is telling us precisely the wishful thinking of the crumbling regime. And of course, the US is out there to fullfill every wish of its dearest of all dictators, according to the Ewe at the Zoo with the flu.
We give Zoo 9.9 out of 10 for this circus performance. Continue with your clownish training, ewe at the Zoo with the flu, and you may eventually get 10 out of 10
Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/12/06/is-syrias-civil-war-entering-its-final-act-or-poised-for-a-new-phase/#ixzz2EJl4JwyE
December 6th, 2012, 6:36 pm
zoo said:
#423
Ewe.. italics and bold in one post! My hit was really effective.
I am waiting for the uppercase bold announcement of the victory of the FSA (minus Al Nusra) over Damascus that your twin brother predicted two times already.
December 6th, 2012, 6:46 pm
Citizen said:
U.S., Russia Try To Find Common Ground On Syria
http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=166677649&m=166682763
December 6th, 2012, 6:47 pm
zoo said:
False Alarm.
The USS aging Eisenhower is on its way to overdue maintenance with a short stop over near Syria. Nothing to worry about it! It’s only a show
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/12/05/us-aircraft-carriers-arrival-near-syria-sparks-war-fears/
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On the other hand while the deployment seems to be at least a chance for US bluster against Syria, it appears oddly timed for an actual war plan, coming just a week after the US Navy announced the Eisenhower was being returned to the US later in December for maintenance.
The US is shorter than usual on carriers in the region at the moment, with the USS Nimitz undergoing extensive and unexpected repair work. The Eisenhower was initially supposed to come back to the US in early 2013 for repair work to its flight deck, but has instead been ordered back early for less extensive repairs before a protracted deployment to cover up for the Nimitz.
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It’s hard to imagine then that the US would deploy the aging Eisenhower, just weeks before it’s due back for repairs, to start a major war. The more likely explanation is that the Eisenhower was slowly making its way back to the eastern US and is just making a stop-off near Syria for show.
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Ike to Return Home Early, Redeploys in 2013
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/11/26/ike-to-return-home-early-redeploys-in-2013.html?comp=7000023468025&rank=2
Nov 26, 2012
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Bringing Eisenhower back home to its homeport in Norfolk, Va. in December will permit the Navy to resurface the ship’s flight deck and make it available to return and remain in the Middle East region for several more months. This decision also provides the ship’s crew a welcome holiday respite from what will become nearly 10 months on station.
December 6th, 2012, 6:56 pm
Citizen said:
Drudge Chides Obama Over “Hysterical” Syria WMD Rhetoric
http://www.infowars.com/drudge-chides-obama-over-hysterical-syria-wmd-rhetoric/
“Who will go to UN to show ‘evidence’ this time?”
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
December 6, 2012
Matt Drudge chided President Obama over his increasingly “hysterical” rhetoric regarding the supposed WMD threat posed by Syria in a tweet that harked back to Colin Powell’s infamous UN appearance which relied on fabricated evidence to justify the invasion of Iraq.
“Obama playing up ‘WMD’ threat in Syria is bold and hysterical. Who will go to UN to show ‘evidence’ this time? Maybe one of the Rices,” tweeted the editor of DrudgeReport.com, in the aftermath of the Obama administration’s increasing hype over a chemical weapons threat based on little else but hearsay and conjecture.
Drudge’s reference to the UN is of course a reminder that contrived threats about Saddam Hussein’s non-existent weapons of mass destruction were used to grease the skids for an attack on Iraq that has cost over a trillion dollars and well over 4,000 dead U.S. troops over the last nine and a half years.
In February 2003, Colin Powell went before the U.N. Security Council and claimed that Iraq was hiding weapons of mass destruction and refused to disarm. He dramatically held up a vial of white powder, remarking that the same amount had shut down the U.S. Senate in 2001.
Most of the claims Powell made during the speech, including the infamous ‘Niger yellowcake’ issue, were fabricated and based on the testimony of an intelligence asset named Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi or “Curveball” – an Iraqi defector who later admitted that he had completely manufactured lies about Saddam having mobile bioweapons trucks and clandestine factories.
Powell later admitted that he was “misled” before the UN speech and said that he regretted the incident.
Syria’s President Bashar Al-Assad has repeatedly asserted that Syria will not use its chemical weapons arsenal to target rebel fighters, never mind the civilian population. To do so would be an act of geopolitical suicide given that Obama and Hillary Clinton have made it clear this is a “red line” that will mandate US military intervention.
The sudden deluge of hysteria suggesting, “The Syrian military is prepared to use chemical weapons against its own people and is awaiting final orders from President Bashar Assad,” is based entirely on dubious claims by anonymous “US officials”.
Indeed, the only evidence that suggests chemical weapons may be in preparation for use in Syria comes from a video which apparently shows US-backed Syrian rebels testing chemical weapons on rabbits in a lab while bragging about how they will deploy them to kill pro-Assad Allawites.
Fabricated lies about weapons of mass destruction were cited as the primary reason for invading Iraq, a justification that was proven to be completely fraudulent. It’s astounding that the US military-industrial complex and the establishment media are once again resorting to the same infantile propaganda in an attempt to grease the skids for military intervention in Syria, which just like Iraq has been planned well in advance.
December 6th, 2012, 7:03 pm
Dolly Buster said:
They will not be able to find common ground, because the goal of Russia is to promote dictatorship and despair, while the U.S. is interested in other plans.
If I were Obama, I would not even talk to Moscow, they are a rogue state.
Unfortunately, Obama is interested in unilateral disarmament of the free world, and promises Medvedev favors behind closed doors.
The only good news is that Putin fell by one notch from #2 to #3 on the Forbes most powerful rulers list compared to last year.
December 6th, 2012, 7:04 pm
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
666 the Islamic mark of the beast :
December 6th, 2012, 7:10 pm
zoo said:
Citizen
12 December seem to be the “D” day.
There we will see what level the US is ready to recognize the coalition and that could affect the international community decisions.
These are the levels that the coalition could be recognized as:
0) No recognition
1) “A” legitimate representative of the Syrian opposition
2) “The” sole legitimate representative of the Syrian opposition
3) “A” legitimate representative of the (aspirations of) the Syrian people
4) “The” legitimate representative of the (aspirations of) the Syrian people.
5) A Syrian government in exile
Until now, France, the UK, Turkey, Spain and the GCC seem to have recognized the coalition at level 4, some even considering diplomatic exchange of ambassadors.
The Arab League and the US are still at level 1.
Heavy discussions are going in the coalition headquarter in Cairo headquarter to present the best image and win a wider recognition without conditions attached.
December 6th, 2012, 7:19 pm
Citizen said:
http://youtu.be/_bSjq4nE3ag
http://counterpsyops.com/2012/12/05/obama-weapons-of-mass-destruction/#more-9697
December 6th, 2012, 7:19 pm
Tara said:
Look at how much Lavrov is into Miss Piggy. Who is influencing whom this time around?
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/b1C6T.6ZKfMl0.WgOal3vA–/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMjA7cT04NTt3PTUxMg–/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/theatlanticwire/Syria_s_Bombs_Full_of_Nerve-cdcb47468d5750facb226677a631550b
Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov watches as US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrives for a group photo at the OSCE conference in Dublin.
December 6th, 2012, 7:26 pm
Citizen said:
Western Media Dictatorship
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This telecommunication war is a part and parcel of a policy adopted by the pro-Zionist American administration and its EU poodle to cover theirs and the Israeli war crimes and flagrant violations of human rights in the Middle Eastern and in South East Asian regions. It started in December 2004 when the US and EU banned the Lebanese pro-Hezbollah Al-Manar TV from broadcasting into the US and Europe after being designated as a supporter of terror and spreading hatred as stated by Richard Boucher, then, State Department Spokesman. In September 2012 the pro-Syrian government TV channels were banned from Arabsat and Nilesat. Now it is Iran?s turn, where not one or two but 19 satellite channels are banned. This seems to have become a dangerous interlude to other future such attacks on free speech. Recently there are attacks against Russian satellite TV channels especially those that are broadcasting alternative views of the Syrian crises contradicting the Western narratives.
The Western countries conceitedly designate themselves as the defenders and promoters of democracy and free speech to the point of waging devastating wars to guarantee it. While the EU raises the flag of democracy and free speech and claims to be a democratic organization it is completely violating the basic tenets of freedom of speech and the basic rights of its own citizens to receive news and to be exposed to alternative views.
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http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2012/10/22/western-media-dictatorship
December 6th, 2012, 7:31 pm
Syrialover said:
SNP/ALDENDESHE #429,
Don’t be shy, tell us where you are wearing your special 666 mark of the beast.
It’s important in case we end up in the same location. We need to be able to recognize you and run for our lives before we cop a rabid lecture on invasions from outer space and secret global conspiracies ignited by the full moon.
December 6th, 2012, 7:36 pm
Citizen said:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/secretary-clinton-in-top-level-talks-with-russia-on-syria/2012/12/06/69923aac-3fa9-11e2-8a5c-473797be602c_video.html
Just a reminder:
Under the pretext of searching for weapons of mass destruction during the war on Iraq, the United States of America dropped 396000 tons of bombs containing uranium!
Now Americans are talking about the same assumptions and talk about alleged weapons not used! Is there a reason in this world can explain the behavior of American Monster?
December 6th, 2012, 7:49 pm
zoo said:
Turkey and Russia amazing discovery: “Political change in Syria is necessary”
Turkey, Russia work on new plan for Syria
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-russia-work-on-new-plan-for-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=36301&NewsCatID=409
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With Russian support for President Bashar al-Assad seemingly wavering, Moscow and Turkey get set to map out a plan for ‘political change’ in Syria
Turkish government sources confirmed that Turkey and Russia have agreed to work on a plan for “political change” in Syria, following the Kremlin’s announcement that diplomats of both countries would “soon start working on new ideas” for ending the conflict in Syria. “Now we are doing our homework and Russia is doing theirs,” a high-ranking Turkish official, who asked not to be named, told the Hürriyet Daily News on Dec. 6; they could come to a stage of meeting on the issue “in weeks.”
Both Turkish and Russian officials confirmed that an agreement to start joint work on Syria was decided on by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdo?an during Putin’s visit to Istanbul on Dec. 3. According to Turkish sources, there was an agreement behind Putin’s remark that “We share the same views about what is going on in Syria” in the joint press conference with Erdo?an, which could be summarized in one sentence: Political change in Syria is necessary.
December 6th, 2012, 7:58 pm
Citizen said:
UN-Arab League envoy meets with top Russian and US foreign affairs officials on Syria
6 December 2012 – The urgent need to initiate a political process to help resolve the ongoing conflict in Syria was agreed on in meeting of the Joint Special Representative of the United Nations and the League of Arab States for the crisis in Syria, Lakhdar Brahimi, and the top foreign affairs officials of Russia and the United States.
“We have discussed… the situation in Syria and we have also talked a little bit about how we can work out, hopefully, a process that will get Syria back from the brink, to put together a peace process that will be based on Geneva [the Geneva communiqué],” Mr. Brahimi told reporters after his meeting with Russia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Sergey Lavrov, and the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton.
“We haven’t taken any sensational decisions but I think we have agreed that the situation is bad and we have agreed that we must continue to work together to see how we can find creative ways of bringing this problem under control and hopefully starting to solve it,” he added.
The trio met in the Irish capital of Dublin, at Mr. Brahimi’s request, on the margins of the 19th Ministerial Meeting of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe.
The Geneva communiqué referred to by the Joint Special Representative lays out key steps in a process to end the violence in the Middle Eastern country, and was issued after a meeting in the Swiss city of the so-called Action Group for Syria in late June.
Syria has been wracked by violence, with at least 20,000 people, mostly civilians, killed since the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad began some 21 months ago. The violence has spawned more than 465,000 refugees, while more than 2.5 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance, according to UN estimates.
Mr. Brahimi has previously noted that many of the building blocks for a political process to end the Syrian crisis are already contained in the Geneva communiqué. Amongst other items, the document called for the establishment of a transitional governing body, with full executive powers and made up by members of the present Government and the opposition and other groups, as part of important agreed principles and guidelines for a Syrian-led political transition.
The Action Group is made up of the Secretaries-General of the UN and the Arab League; the Foreign Ministers of the five permanent members of the Security Council – China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States – as well as the Turkish Foreign Minister; the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy; and the Foreign Ministers of Iraq, Kuwait and Qatar, in their respective roles related to the Arab League.
“I am discussing this situation with all the countries that I call that have influence and interest or both – and definitely this is the case for Russia and the United States,” Mr. Brahimi added in the media encounter. “We have discussed this and we continue to discuss this with other countries that were present in Geneva and also all the countries that, as I said, have interest and influence in Syria.”
http://news.feedzilla.com/en_us/stories/world-news/asia-russia/268971098?client_source=feed&format=rss&sb=1
December 6th, 2012, 8:09 pm
Tara said:
No one except a hateful individual would stuff an oily food in between cushions to satisfy a desire for revenge.
With Looting, Syria’s Army Isn’t Winning Hearts And Minds
December 06, 2012 1:47 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/12/06/166658785/with-looting-syrias-army-isnt-winning-hearts-and-minds
“I found my homemade pickled eggplants stuffed in between my sofa cushions, with olive oil and all,” he said.
December 6th, 2012, 8:13 pm
Citizen said:
http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/12/06/obamas-syria-policy-comes-dangerously-close-to-bush-doctrine/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Obama’s Syria Policy Comes Dangerously Close to ‘Bush Doctrine’
December 6th, 2012, 8:13 pm
Visitor said:
This Friday is named “No to ‘peacekeeping’ forces in Syria”.
Looks like the Syrian Revolution is ahead of the game.
December 6th, 2012, 8:15 pm
zoo said:
Tara
I think Miss Piggy should get some advices from Moza about seductive facial expressions.
http://still4hill.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/12-04-y-04.jpg?w=500
December 6th, 2012, 8:23 pm
Visitor said:
Robert Ford is a stupid fool if he thinks he can pull off a government in exile with 7Hijab as PM, Manaf as defense minister and Makdissi as foreign minister.
He is counting on MB’s to endorse his dream.
It will mean a total divorce between people on the ground and those in exile, and end of the coalition. Key Arab country(ies) have not yet recognized the coalition, and rightly so, for very good reasons.
December 6th, 2012, 8:26 pm
Tara said:
Zoo,
Miss Piggy needs lots of work..Yet, it seems that there is no lack of sparkle in Mr. Lavrov’s eyes.
I linked the wrong picture. Here is the correct link.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/12/6/1354803224319/4c264a17-f581-4ef9-87af-7a4c9b18fcb3-620.jpeg
December 6th, 2012, 8:38 pm
zoo said:
#442 Visitor
“Key Arab country(ies) have not yet recognized the coalition,”
Do you mean the GCC are not Key arab countries?
December 6th, 2012, 10:08 pm
zoo said:
Freshly defected Baathist officials make up the new Syrian government the West has in mind for Syria.
The coalition would become the official opposition..
Surprise?
US, Europe pushing for transitional Syrian government with ex-loyalists, sources say
December 6, 2012 share
The United States and Europe are exerting effort to “impose a formula for the transitional opposition government,” sources close to the opposition Syrian National Council told NOW on Thursday.
According to the sources the government would be headed by former Syrian Prime Minister Riad Hijab, while General Manaf Tlas would hold the position of Defense Minister, with former Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Jihad Makdisi in the role of foreign minister.
To read more: http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=464298#ixzz2EKi4Dsmu
December 6th, 2012, 10:30 pm
Visitor said:
Ewe @ the Zoo said,
“# 442 Visitor
…
Do you mean the GCC are not Key arab countries?”
No. I meant you are an idiot bonehead.
December 6th, 2012, 10:44 pm
majedkhaldoun said:
???? ????
There are news that USA knows where about Bashar
Did you guys notice the cast on the left arm of Lavrov? in Colles fracture we keep the wrist mildly flexed with mild ulnar deviation, and the cast should never extend beyond the MP joint, his cast is not good one.
December 6th, 2012, 11:00 pm
Ghufran said:
GCC regimes have so far managed to protect their crowns, until now, due to oil money that they use to keep their people fat and happy and US support, the tribal and religious fabric of their societies have also helped them, however,this formula can not work in countries like Egypt and Syria, even if Islamists capture the government they will not be able to rule.
It makes perfect sense for Islamists to take a dose of humility and accept partnership instead of trying to dominate,but you can not put sensibility and islamism in the same sentence, it is a perfect oxymoron, islamists in Syria may very well occupy Damascus and divide Syria and inflame a wider civil war but they will never win the support and the respect of Syrians who may hate the regime but they are not in love with Islamists who want Syria to go back to the middle ages in the name of a God they think only listen to them.
?? ?????
December 6th, 2012, 11:09 pm
Ghufran said:
“We still do not control the air base but the fighters are choking it off. We hope within the coming hours we can take it,” said Abu Nidal, a spokesman for a rebel force called the Habib al-Mustafa brigade”
Most of you believed the news that Aqraba fell in the hands of rebels 5 days ago.
Controlling Damascus may very well lead to the collapse of the government,however, ending the war is another matter.
December 6th, 2012, 11:21 pm
Ghufran said:
Jishua on NPR ( open in MP3)
http://www.wypr.org/news/syrian-militia-leaders-depend-terrorist-faction
December 6th, 2012, 11:39 pm
Aldendeshe said:
Controlling Damascus may very well lead to the collapse of the government, however, ending the war is another matter.
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Even if the war ended, what is next? Regardless if Assad was the victor or the idiots westerners and devil worshipping Moslem Bedouin picks to rule, where all the billions going to come from to get the place off the ground. By the time the war ends there will be hardly anything in Syria left that can be called assets. Militia and criminality will be for long time the only source of income for the young men. Most businessmen and the educated Syrians will flee to the coastal area or escape to Lebanon, refugees will never or could return, they will live in the tents as refugees for generation just as Palestinian and Iraqi never could return. Even if they get 20 billion up front, that is barely going to cover the first year of salaried government employees, nothing will be left for the economy. Corruption, graft and plundering will skyrocket way beyond it was under Baathism. Mosque leaders and speakers are more corrupt than Riffat Assad. The Syrian Pound will collapse to range above $=3000 LS, hyperinflation will skyrocket beyound what you seen in Iraq. That country and Iran has oil & gas resources, Syria’s are almost depleted.
Assad must provide and be prepared to set up a Republic of Syria on the coast, a place for the minorities, the educated and wealthy of Syria can live and prosper within. Syria will shed its filth and move forward under modern secular National State. The new state can maintain higher value for it’s currency and will be flooded with hard currency, they will also have all the gas reserves off shore.
December 6th, 2012, 11:45 pm
Ghufram said:
Islamists and their backers have destroyed Syria to change the regime, they will be left with rubles and millions of displaced and hungry people. The winners are Israel and the GCC who will buy loyalty with petro dollars. A mini state on the coast is not viable but some form of a confederation may work if it receives support from regional and international powers, Israel will dominate for another generation or two, Syrians failed the test, there is no way to dodge this fact, posters here can only curse the regime and the infidels but have no plan for the future.
December 7th, 2012, 12:02 am
Ghufran said:
Reposting:
Islamists and their backers have destroyed Syria to change the regime, they will be left with rubles and millions of displaced and hungry people. The winners are Israel and the GCC who will buy loyalty with petro dollars. A mini state on the coast is not viable but some form of a confederation may work if it receives support from regional and international powers, Israel will dominate for another generation or two, Syrians failed the test, there is no way to dodge this fact, posters here can only curse the regime and the infidels but have no plan for the future.
December 7th, 2012, 12:06 am
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
The Zion King:
December 7th, 2012, 12:11 am
Aldendeshe said:
We need to leave filth in the desert and move to set up new Syria on the Mediterranean . Leave R***ian and their Islam the pollution to pollute the whole world except the New Republic of Syria. Chinag Kai Chik made it in Formosa; he left China for the Communists and set up new Nationalist China State, we can make it in smaller Syria. Just convert all Mosques into science and trade showroom centers, cultural and performance halls in the new Syria. We can build Syria to look and feel like this with fewer good people that refuses to place the slavery banner of 666 on the forehead. Assad and his Baathist-Arab nationalist thugs are obviously not capable of doing it so my call is for the Syrian army and minorities of Syria to work on this goal of building new Syria without the Talmudic Jewish-Islamic Luciferian filth. We are human born free, to live free.
December 7th, 2012, 1:03 am
MarigoldRan said:
Ghurfan is a regime apologist. He goes and blames the Islamists when in fact it was the regime that destroyed large swathes of the country.
Let this be a lesson to all regime thugs: if you burn down other peoples’ houses, they will come and burn down your house. First Damascus, then Lattakia.
If the Alawites cannot hold Damascus, they will not be able to hold Lattakia. You can forget about your pipe dreams. Unlike the Nationalists of China, the Alawites don’t have an island to hide on.
December 7th, 2012, 1:12 am
MarigoldRan said:
The rebels are making a sustained push for Damascus. Though victory is many months away, the fact that they can fight the regime near its center of power on equal terms shows how far they have come.
Compare the current fighting to the fighting in the capitol in July. The regime today no longer has the strength or the will to push the rebels back.
December 7th, 2012, 1:15 am
Aldendeshe said:
No body of water needed, but will have WMD to exterminate them (enemy of humanity Moslems-stooges and hired help of Talmudic Luciferian Zionists) and very high tech security and defense systems not even the United States Secret Alien Government have now to insure our safety and prosperity. It is very easy for the Nationalist to keep the filth out of Modern Syria.
December 7th, 2012, 1:23 am
Aldendeshe said:
What are they dying for, what is the winning prize, let’s guess, hummm, a pile of dead bodies and rubble called Syria. No food, no jobs, no commerce, no resources, no tourism, no culture, no life, no future. Just humongous new Mosques edifice with 2 minarets rising on each, Boaz and Joachim, the R***ian Stella symbol of domination. The Mosque (Temple) is the neighborhood life and school, each neighborhood had a leader of a mosque, an armed militia, own flag, harem and whores and a whole lot of young children that will be placing banners on their forehead living in slums called Gaza.
ENJOY IT, YOU CAN HAVE IT. IF I WAS ASSAD I WOLD NOT FIGHT YOU FOR IT. WILL STRIP WHAT IS GOOD LEFT AND HAND YOU THE KEYS ON A SILVER PLATTER. BUT AGAIN I AM SMART ONE.
December 7th, 2012, 1:34 am
MarigoldRan said:
Aldendeshe, you’re a nutcase or a troll.
Assad has many advisers like you. And that’s why he’s losing.
December 7th, 2012, 1:44 am
Aldendeshe said:
459. MarigoldRansaid:
Aldendeshe, you’re a nutcase or a troll.
Assad has many advisers like you. And that’s why he’s losing.
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Your Allah is a troll with horns, he needed a nobody bedouin genocidal and child molester to raise his name up as the GREATEST of all gods ever, ALLAH WA AKBAR, and introduce his ass to humanity. And when mankind thought this god got to be a nutcase, he get to use swords, no more Alrahman Alrahim the Merciful Huhhh, he changed his mind again and again (ALAT), what a nutcase, too bad humanity now has 1 billion plus of them.
Assad has no one like me, that is why he is losing, if he listen to my advise, if Iran listen to me, neither Assad nor Iran will ever be sanctioned economically, no one will dare to do so.
December 7th, 2012, 1:58 am
MarigoldRan said:
Man, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but we’ve just found a potential leader who is even WORSE than Assad.
YOU, Aldendeshe. YOU would be an even worse leader than Assad.
If you ever ran a country, NATO would be bombing the heck out of you within two weeks. Thank goodness you’re nothing more than an internet nutcase and will never get a position of responsibility, ever.
December 7th, 2012, 3:10 am
Syrialover said:
MARIGOLDRAN #459 said “Aldendeshe, you’re a nutcase or a troll.
Assad has many advisers like you.”
Hey, you gotta understand and have some respect. ALDENDESHE/SNP is not just any nutcase and troll. He’s an extremely important and busy one, advising the devil and various extraterrestrial nations and singlehandedly wrapping and burying planet earth now it’s been destroyed by Zionist plots.
And 1. It’s way, way below ALDENDESHE/SNP’s job status and pay grade to advise Assad.
Plus 2. Nobody has “advisers like ALDENDESHE/SNP”. We actually ALL have ALDENDESHE/SNP himself as THE adviser of not just this planet, but the whole universe.
Hope this clears things up and cuts through the confusion, MARIGOLDRAN.
December 7th, 2012, 3:27 am
Syrialover said:
And MARIGOLDRAN #461
It’s a howling-at-the-moon shame that someone as superhumanly busy and important as ALDENDESHE/SNP has to spend his time and energies posting on SyriaComment, and spamming and fiddling with the votes system to keep his quota up.
The poor guy deserves assistance, not distractions and arguments in his mega missions to sort out and alert the universe.
Any suggestions on how to help him?
December 7th, 2012, 3:36 am
Aldendeshe said:
Those “IT” commenters here are so nobody to SNP, none left a single thumbdown for them idiots. Please don’t, let them simmer and boil in own Kosher kaka.
December 7th, 2012, 3:36 am
Uzair8 said:
THE_47th
Rumor has it: Anissah Makhlouf (Bashar Assad’s mom) is now in Dubai. If true, that means it’s now both Bushra Assad & the mom in Dubai.
http://yallasouriya.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/the-47th-rumor-has-it-anissah-makhlouf-bashar/
December 7th, 2012, 4:23 am
SyriaFree said:
Dear Prof. Landis or admin,
please block this guy “Aldendeshe”. I thought this blog is only for educated people.
December 7th, 2012, 4:32 am
Syrialover said:
Britain to offer increased ‘practical support’ to Syrian rebels
Britain will seek next week to amend an arms embargo on Syria to make it easier to help opponents of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, the Foreign Office said on Thursday.
Foreign Office official said the increased “practical support” that Britain envisaged would be training and non-lethal equipment. Items such as body armour and night-vision goggles are currently caught up in a European arms embargo aimed at stemming supplies to Assad’s forces.
European foreign ministers are meeting in Brussels on Monday.
Last week EU diplomats said they had agreed to reduce the renewal period of a package of sanctions against Syria, including the arms embargo, to three months rather than one year to make it easier to supply the rebels.
“Having successfully amended the EU arms embargo (and sanctions package) by setting a three-month renewal period, we will make fresh arguments in support of amending the arms embargo ahead of the March 2013 deadline in a way that offers sufficient flexibility to increase practical support to the Syrian opposition,” Foreign Office Europe minister David Lidington said in a statement.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9727209/Britain-to-offer-increased-practical-support-to-Syrian-rebels.html
December 7th, 2012, 5:06 am
Citizen said:
Analytical program “However”
Hello!
Americans discovered in Syria deposits of chemical weapons and tear them to develop urgently with missiles and bombs. That’s just today opened. Although it was known about them for a long time. From the Middle East in general feeling is that kerosene stew dynamite.
This week, Washington began loudly to warn the Syrian authorities to the use of the sudden discovery of chemical and biological weapons against his own people and to publicly discuss the possibility of military operations to destroy it. Simultaneously announced by Turkey to air defense systems, “Patriot”, ostensibly to protect against a possible Syrian attack. Proper degree campaign gave Secretary Clinton: “It is enough to say that we, of course, the possibility of the action plan, if there is any chance.”
This is all reminiscent of the poor as a special Powell with his famous tube. After that was Iraq. But Mrs. Clinton herself out. And, probably, along with their Syrian tube.
Obama is known to be an outspoken critic of the Bush administration. And why did his administration so literally quoted behinds this same Bush rhetoric? There is reason to believe that this is a very powerful operation cover. Just to distract and neutralize adherents of such a policy. Because, if not look at what is being said, and that is, the picture is somewhat different.
Americans Duty demonstrate solidarity with Israel in word and in the vote at the UN. And the so-called “eight-day war” between Israel and the Palestinian Hamas in Gaza ended not impressive Israeli ground operation, and a peace agreement with the partial lifting of the blockade of Gaza. The agreement, brokered by the new Islamist Egyptian President Mursi, perceived in the Muslim world, as the defeat of the Israeli hawks and the victory of Hamas.
That allowed the Americans to mediate Mursi. And they forced Israel to give up the military operation. That is, did Mursi savior Gaza. It is this political victory allowed Mursi announce constitutional amendments that make it the sovereign ruler of Egypt. There is reason to believe that the notorious mob “liberals” in the streets of Cairo in vain headway. Since their only patrons – the Americans, the choice is already made. More precisely, it did Obama.
Thierry Meyssan, a French orientalist and conspiracy theorist, believes that within the American political establishment is unfolding struggle between the “globalists” and realists Obama, need to reduce the U.S. presence around the world to focus on the real threats to America. Immediately after the announcement of election victory Obama began cleaning in power structures. Were fired CIA director David Petraeus, konmanduyuschy NATO forces in Europe Stavridis and considered his successor, John Allen. Next: Head of Africa Command William Ward and his successor, General Carter Ham. Moreover, each time the dismissal occurred amid a scandal exposing the dirty details or personal lives, or waste and conflicts of interest.
Believe in a one-time decline of morals in the American establishment is difficult. Another thing is that all these people are in some way connected with the implementation of the former U.S. foreign policy.
“As for the State Department – writes Meyssan – then in place of the outgoing Mrs Clinton tipped Senator John Kerry, a supporter of Obama’s new course.” He gives a photograph in which the couple Kerry dinner at a restaurant in Damascus with Assad couple.
Syrian crisis and U.S. involvement in it on the side of the Sunni Islamists – a product of a titanic struggle with Iran, which is becoming increasingly inadequate and useless. So far the only joint venture of US-Iranian is the Palestinian Hamas. But secret talks with Tehran is already under way.
As an advisor to Obama’s national security, Thomas Donilon, the U.S. instead of cycling on hot spots and the non-Middle Eastern countries need to focus on the new centers of global influence in Asia.
We said that the Americans, at least Obama’s will be willing to negotiate with opponents to freeze local conflicts. This means the global changes in the world.
He resembles a huge ship, populated by different tribes, the teams squabbling with each other. Suddenly, the captain of the vessel had received his sight trying to turn around the hummocks and icebergs of the global crisis. One wrong move – and you “Titanic.”
However, up to date!
See original material http://www.1tv.ru/news/leontiev/221485
December 7th, 2012, 5:19 am
Citizen said:
Syrian rebels declared a military target international aeroport Damascus and warned civilians to stay away from him – Reuters
December 7th, 2012, 5:25 am
Citizen said:
If your hatred prevented from hearing our voice I advise to listen to your rational!!!
Our foreign policy on Syria is the same as al-Qaeda’s – something isn’t right here
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324640104578164723440060156.html?mod=rss_middle_east_news&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
December 7th, 2012, 6:45 am
Syrialover said:
Syria: preparing for the end
The last few days have brought a sudden revival of diplomatic activity over Syria.
EXCERPT:
On Monday, Russian president Vladimir Putin met the Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in Istanbul. Yesterday, US secretary of state Hillary Clinton, Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov and Lakhdar Brahimi, the international envoy on Syria held a three-way meeting in Dublin. Today, UN secretary-general Ban Ki-Moon is due in Turkey at the start of a Middle East tour.
Underlying these moves is an apparent weakening of Russian support for Assad as the decline of his regime accelerates.
Russia and Turkey have certainly not seen eye-to-eye on Syria up to now but following the Putin-Erdogan meeting the Russian Itar-Tass news agency reported that they had come up with a number of new proposals for a settlement which they would “work on”.
Itar-Tass did not elaborate on what these “identical” assessments of the situation are, but there are signs that Russia is becoming disillusioned with Assad. Yesterday, Vladimir Vasilyev, a key ally of Putin in the Russian parliament, was quoted as saying: “We have shared and do share the opinion that the existing government in Syria should carry out its functions. But time has shown that this task is beyond its strength.”
The CIA reportedly expects the regime to be gone in a couple of months or so, and the Obama administration is said to be worried about its lack of influence with the fighters who will then take control on the ground.
Russia, having previously hitched its colours too firmly to Assad’s mast, has even less influence with the rebels. It also risks losing its naval facility in Tartus – the only one it has outside the former Soviet Union – as well as some business interests in Syria (including armaments).
There are two great dangers in the aftermath. One, which almost everyone is aware of, is the danger of sectarian and ethnic bloodletting along with continued jihadist activity – and obviously it is desirable to minimise that.
The other danger, less often talked about, is that in an international effort to bring stability to Syria the aspirations of its people to determine their own future – the original goal of the uprising against Assad – will become submerged once again.
Source: Brian Whitaker’s blog –
http://www.al-bab.com/blog/2012/blog1212.htm#syria_preparing_for_the_end)
December 7th, 2012, 7:31 am
Syrialover said:
‘Zero hour’: Syrian rebels prepare to mount Damascus attack
Syrian rebels are preparing to mount their ‘Zero Hour’ campaign to take Damascus, with fears the capital is facing total destruction in the coming months.
EXCERPT:
As rebels fought government troops on the outskirts of the capital, a Damascus based analyst told the Daily Telegraph that the fighting was likely to defeat the aspirations of both sides.
“There is the risk of the total destruction of Damascus,” said Peter Harling, Project Director with the Middle East Programme of the International Crisis Group. “The regime is well entrenched in some key parts of Damascus and the opposition is unable to come up with a political vision to offer an exit to the bulk of people fighting for the regime.
“We could see a repeat of the level of destruction that we have seen in other towns, but it would be worse this time: what transition do you get when you destroy the seat on power?”
Increasingly bullish, this week opposition activists launched a video titled ‘Zero Hour – Your Final Chance’, warning residents in the capital to “change sides” before it is too late.
The video, posted on Facebook, promises an imminent offensive that would seize central Damascus and “check mate” the Syrian president.
It gives instructions on how to react to the attack, and how best to survive: “No one will remain in their house during this hour … we will come out in the millions to all of the criminal Assad’s palaces … The floor will shake under Assad and his supporters’ feet,” narrates a voice backed by rousing music. “We invite all members of the Assad Army to defect in masses from this regime.”
Seeking to further boost their successes, commanders of the Free Syrian Army have gathered in Turkey to settle on a new organisational military structure that is intended to increase co-ordination between groups on the ground and improve weapons supply lines.
Mr Harling however warned that the failure of the opposition’s political wing – first the Syrian National Council and now the National Coalition, to carry a strong message of forgiveness and conciliation to government loyalists means the plan to overthrow the capital is doomed to a bitter and bloody failure that could see Syria become a failed state.
“You can’t just let the armed groups play this out. As the regime is forced into a fighting retreat we could see new conflicts ignite … and the political opposition is totally absent.”
Next week Syria’s international allies, including Britain, will meet for a ‘Friends of Syria’ conference in Morocco where they are expected to endorse the National Coalition with full political recognition, as well as substantial funds.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9728078/Zero-hour-Syrian-rebels-prepare-to-mount-Damascus-attack.html
December 7th, 2012, 7:39 am
Mina said:
Al Jazeera: the modern “Pravda”!
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/egypt-al-jazeera%E2%80%99s-cameras-blind-revolutionaries
“Moreover, an al-Jazeera correspondent decided to play the devil’s advocate in his interviews with some protesters. He asked, “Did you read the constitution?” Of course, the answer was, “No.” The correspondent replied, “So why doth thou protest?””
December 7th, 2012, 7:40 am
Hanzala said:
Syria chemical weapons scare: Is Assad threatening to use them, or lose them? (+video)
But Mr. Assad also might be sending a different signal to the US and the international community, analysts say. By ordering “activity” at chemical weapons sites, Assad could be reminding the international powers demanding his departure that his fall would likely be followed by chaos – in which radical Islamists could get their hands on Syria’s weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2012/1206/Syria-chemical-weapons-scare-Is-Assad-threatening-to-use-them-or-lose-them-video
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Assad definitely is sending a message to the west. Why would Assad’s men leave major bases in the past without destroying the ammunition or tanks/helicopters before giving them up to the rebels?
December 7th, 2012, 7:59 am
zoo said:
Morsi is trapped in the usual dynamics in the Arab countries: If he backs down, he looks weak, if he does not budge and escalate the repression he becomes a ‘cruel’ dictator.
In both cases, he needs a trustworthy external interference to mediate with the opposition, otherwise he is lost.
The best mediator would be the army who is still trusted by the people. But Mursi has eliminated key army commanders, like Tantawi and it is yet to see if the new commanders may play that role.
Now, Morsi seems dangerously isolated with only Moslem Brotherhood elements that he has surrounded himself with.
This test s crucial. If he is able to deal with the crisis, he will come up as a real leader , otherwise he is finished and teh Moslem Brotherhood with him.
In my view he should be replaced by Abdel Moneim Al Futush!
December 7th, 2012, 2:15 pm
zoo said:
#446
“they are expected to endorse the National Coalition with full political recognition”
The usual UK Telegraph wishful thinking…
My bet is they will be promised a “better” recognition and funds IF they fulfill certain conditions, many of which are almost impossible to meet.
France and UK have already recognized level 4, the questions is which other country will follow when the UN is not.
December 7th, 2012, 2:21 pm
Mina said:
Nice pic
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/voting-constitution-delayed-egyptians-abroad
The UN didnt “express alarm” over the fact there was no mention of women in the draft constitution, but it has its say about the unrest! Why, is it bad for business?
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/un-expresses-alarm-over-unrest-and-draft-constitution
December 7th, 2012, 2:40 pm
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