Here is Daniel Estulin’s insider leak from 2011 Bilderberg on the Arab Revolts. June 14, 2011 St Moritz

Middle East
Let´s start with the conclusion: As cash for counter-revolution is dolled out by the billions, the future of the great 2011 Arab revolt looks grimmer and grimmer. Bilderberg fully backs draconian repression and perpetual war all across the Persian Gulf and is willingly using its staunch ally, Saudi Arabia to do it bidding. This war will include every nation in the Middle East except for Israel. Saudi Arabia is a strategic partner, not only because it is a repressive Monarchy and a dictatorship, thus unaccountable to an electorate, but also because of their oil as strategic energy reserve.

Instability across the entire Middle East allows Bilderberg an excuse to push oil prices to a $150-180 per barrel. This would put tremendous political pressure on Germany and the European Union on the one hand and on China and its economic and political aspirations on the other.

Keep in mind that no matter how you role the dice, Bilderberg wins. Back in the summer 2008, oil shot up to $147 a barrel, something I predicted back in May 2005, after the Bilderberg conference in Rottach-Egern where it was decided to manipulate prices to that level by the summer 2008. At the time, JP Morgan was advising the Chinese government that China buy all the physical crude oil because it is going to $200 a barrel. What few people know, is that almost ¾ of the price of oil is pure speculation, manipulated by the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index. Thus, Wall Street controls the oil price irrespective of supply and demand. Rest assured, that this is all part of a long range objective to control not only the oil price but the world financial markets.

If you take a closer look, Saudi Arabia has their fingers in every Middle Eastern pie. Take Egypt. The House of Saud has just given Supreme Military Council leader Field Marshall Tantawi US$4 billion in cash. In Yemen, the Saudis are buying Yemeni tribes with money, in the name of stability in the region. In Bahrain, they are overtly supporting the National Human Rights Organization whose president was appointed by King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa in 2010.

Then, last week, at the White House, US President Barack Obama received Bahrain’s Crown Prince Salman al-Khalifa. For strategic purposes, oil-rich Bahrain is a key US ally in the Gulf region, and hosts the headquarters of the US Fifth Fleet.

Finally, there’s the Muslim Brotherhood to be understood in the context of the carefully orchestrated US/Saudi counter-revolution. From Syria to Egypt, Brotherhood is working very close with Egypt´s Military Council as a reward for good behavior.

The best way to change the regime is to keep this uprising peaceful and non sectarian.
Did the opposition do that? It depends on whom you ask. Secular opponents of the regime may be up for some unpleasant surprises when they discover that they were used and then marginalized. Some in the opposition will discount this possible outcome as regime propaganda,but the writings on the wall point towards an Islamist domination if efforts for gradual change fail.
Turkey and others may also be pushing in the Islamist direction because they want Iran to lose Syria as an ally in its battle with the west .

Dr,Landis is trying succufully to pronounce the Arabic names as they are pronounced by arabs (he even pronounced my name perfectly ) at the same time Osama is trying hard to pronounce his own president’s name as pronounced by Hilary Clinton !! Pathetic and embarrassing !!
-Usama said (Christian demonstrations!!!) where ? when ? how?
-according to Usama the regime is trying desperately to divert this revolution to sectarianism ! Right! to turn 76% of the population against him ! how stupid he thinks we are !
-usama said 1.5 million are demonstrating!!! not even if you count all Fridays demonstrations reached half of that number ,in Tahrir squer people gathered 1.5 million IN THE SAME TIME AND PLACE !!
2% according to him are enough to topple the regime, using his calculation Bashar should be a president forever (ela al abad) because he had 10% of the population rallying to support him IN ONE DAY.

2. ABUGHASSAN:

“The best way to change the regime is to keep this uprising peaceful and non sectarian.”

True. The problem is that the government’s vicious response has made it impossible for leaders to emerge inside of Syria who would help keep the uprising peaceful and non-sectarian, and make sure the uprising is not hijacked by people with hidden agendas.

I couldnt quite place Ausama’s accent. Is it British or Australian or even New Zealand?

More Bilderberg:

Syrian coast will provide broader access to sea routes as well. Plans already in talks for post-Assad oil pipelines that could front on the Mediterranean. Old Kirkuk-Mosul-Haifa Pipeline could be run through upper Syria down to Israel, or old unused Syrian pipeline renovated into action. Port of Latakia under consideration, as is relooping the unused Banias line to expand capacity. All options on the table for discussion; the resource re-allocations have begun. Even Efrat water distribution routes are being looked at for “points South”.
Bechtel or Halliburton?

Ring a bell?

U.S. checking possibility of pumping oil from northern Iraq to Haifa, via Jordan
By Amiram Cohen 25.08.03 Haaretz

The United States has asked Israel to check the possibility of pumping oil from Iraq to the oil refineries in Haifa. The request came in a telegram last week from a senior Pentagon official to a top Foreign Ministry official in Jerusalem.

The Prime Minister’s Office, which views the pipeline to Haifa as a “bonus” the U.S. could give to Israel in return for its unequivocal support for the American-led campaign in Iraq, had asked the Americans for the official telegram.

The new pipeline would take oil from the Kirkuk area, where some 40 percent of Iraqi oil is produced, and transport it via Mosul, and then across Jordan to Israel. The U.S. telegram included a request for a cost estimate for repairing the Mosul-Haifa pipeline that was in use prior to 1948. During the War of Independence, the Iraqis stopped the flow of oil to Haifa and the pipeline fell into disrepair over the years.

The National Infrastructure Ministry has recently conducted research indicating that construction of a 42-inch diameter pipeline between Kirkuk and Haifa would cost about $400,000 per kilometer. The old Mosul-Haifa pipeline was only 8 inches in diameter.

National Infrastructure Minister Yosef Paritzky said yesterday that the port of Haifa is an attractive destination for Iraqi oil and that he plans to discuss this matter with the U.S. secretary of energy during his planned visit to Washington next month. Paritzky added that the plan depends on Jordan’s consent and that Jordan would receive a transit fee for allowing the oil to piped through its territory. The minister noted, however, that “due to pan-Arab concerns, it will be hard for the Jordanians to agree to the flow of Iraqi oil via Jordan and Israel.”

Sources in Jerusalem confirmed yesterday that the Americans are looking into the possibility of laying a new pipeline via Jordan and Israel. (There is also a pipeline running via Syria that has not been used in some three decades.)

Iraqi oil is now being transported via Turkey to a small Mediterranean port near the Syrian border. The transit fee collected by Turkey is an important source of revenue for the country. This line has been damaged by sabotage twice in recent weeks and is presently out of service.

Dear SYRIAN HAMSTER:

Sorry for the delay in getting back with you. You mentioned something about young parliament page and asked me to elaborate. I think your question was probably directed to someone else because I don’t know anything about the young parliament page.

Anyway, it’s good to hear from you.

The uprising is already hijacked by regional & international players with hidden agendas. The Syrians people fate is unknown and it is not in the hand of the regime or the uprising!

‘Libya is US, China’s battleground’ – Syria is Russia’s (5:30)- Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1490181/pg1

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/10/983830/-Libya,-its-the-Oil-Stupid!

#5

There’s a gas pipeline being planned from Iran to Syria which is a further motivation for the coming (I guarantee it) Turkish attack.

The retarded poster who claimed we’ll just “reserve the right to attack later”, needs to understand that the moment Turkey attacks, it is no longer a provocative incident but a fight for existence and we will not shy from using the full might of our forces.

BTW if my information is right, the enemy intends to create another Jisr-al Shaghour incident in Qamishli this Friday. Iraq said they’ve prepared the refugee camps.

LOL, refugees running from SYRIA TO WAR-TORN IRAQ, do you understand the deception now?

SYRIAN COMMANDO

i agree with you that ‘ the moment Turkey attacks, it is no longer a provocative incident but a fight for existence’ but do you agree with me that turkey has no strategic interest of attacking Syria , i mean Erdogan clearly an emotional person who watch Al Jazeera and co and don’t listen to anything else ,
in the same time he is opportunistic so he used the Turkish people anger for his own benefit on the elections ,why will he be so stupid to invade parts of Syria ?Please explain.

Turkey has been promised a controlling share in that Syrian pipeline. That is part of how NATO got them fully on board in the attack against Syria to begin with. The overt, frontal attack you refer to is now happening under the “kinder, gentler” scam of humanitarian intervention. Turks & West are hoping that will be enough to bring Assads down. Turkey will then be paid off for its humanitarian services via the pipeline deal- tho this is far from the only benefit Turkey will derive from the agreement.

5. 873

Bashar can stop the Bilderberg conspiracy dead in its track by delivering the real reforms the vast majority of his people wants. Otherwise, he can blame no one but himself.

This Usama Monajed guy is a clown. Did he say 1.2-1.3 million protesters in Syria? Dr. Landis, please ask Mr. Monajed to send us pictures from the opposition’s “we-dropped-Syria’s-economy-by-5-percent” achievement party, which will probably be in London or Paris. I can’t believe these clowns are taken seriously by any media…

Dr. Landis, I like how you brought up the fact that although at the Antalya meeting, they claimed to oppose foreign intervention, they have been constantly lobbying foreign economic sanctions on Syria. Next time, can you please ask them how they justify asking for foreign intervention while claiming that they oppose it?

873,
“I couldnt quite place Ausama’s accent. Is it British or Australian or even New Zealand?”
He doesn’t even know, he might be south-African, anyhow, he is as fake and as stupid as his accent.

SC
“LOL, refugees running from SYRIA TO WAR-TORN IRAQ, do you understand the deception now?” FUNNY!

#9

Erdogan is just a puppet, just like Bashaar was (until the revolts made him powerful) just a puppet. Erdogan was very cunning though, because he even fooled me.

The world stage gets played by interests. Look at how Turkish banks closed their doors on Iran, there was a strategic shift played out. They don’t care about the consequences for their citizens, they have been ordered to attack and destroy Syria and they will carry out the orders they have been given.

#11

Nothing can stop the conspiracy now, they will destroy us whatever they do, so the best strategy is to take them down with us. They’re going to corner us into the Samson option. If you’re really Syrian, you don’t want bombs raining down on your cities and eventual occupation. You might hate the government, I know I do, but you don’t want this fate, you want to go out with dignity.

That’s why everyone in Turkey and Israel will have to die.

SFP,
Talking about Lybia and China, here is an interesting news:

رئيس المجلس الانتقالي الليبي يزور بكين
(this guy looks like he is from Peru not Lybia)
أعلنت وزارة الخارجية الصينية يوم 20 يونيو/حزيران ان مصطفى عبد الجليل، رئيس المجلس الوطني الانتقالي الليبي سيزور بكين يوم الثلاثاء 21 يونيو/حزيران.

يشار الى أن الصين لم تتخذ موقفا واضحا ازاء الاحداث التي تشهدها ليبيا، وتقول إن اللقاءات التي اجرتها مؤخرا مع ممثلي الحكومة الليبية والمعارضة تهدف الى وقف اطلاق النار وايجاد حل سلمي للأزمة.

وكانت بكين استضافت خلال الشهر الجاري عبد العاطي العبيدي وزير الخارجية الليبي، مشيرة الى أن بابها مفتوح امام المجلس الوطني الانتقالي الليبي.

يذكر أن الصين كانت من بين الدول التي امتنعت عن التصويت في مارس/اذار على قرار مجلس الأمن القاضي بفرض حظر جوي على ليبيا.

Ausama said ” we have seen the bishops adressing sunni demonstrators and we have seen the sheiks adressing the christian demonstrators in homs”. Can someone please explain were this maniac got this story from. I have not seen a single christian or bishop adressing someone in the protests. He looks like a very hateful person filled with fire.

Syrian Commando,

What is happening is very complicated and the planning taking place, on all sides, is very delicate. A regional war is not inevitable. It will hurt everybody, including the Zionist entity, which is a red line for the west, as you already know. Iran recently declared out in the open that it has submarines in the Red Sea. You can translate that as a threat against Eilat as well as western interests in Saudi Arabia. Everyone is flexing muscles and the Zionist entity will thoroughly feel the pain if the time comes. But this is still undesirable because it will hurt everyone! No exceptions!

I agree with what Louai & Usama said about Ausama Monajed.
I just need to add something. A.Monajed said that he’ll plan for a conference for Syrians in North America, to bring the Syrian Americans & Syrian Canadians together. Well, I am a Syrian Canadian, and I am with the current regime; just wanted to assure him that I’ll not join any of such conferences, and there are many like me. I’m not having a penny from Bashar, but I can’t be with such lunatic people so called “Syrian opposition” who want to destroy Syria. I’m with real reforms, and I have trust that Bashar can do it and will do it. But, as long as the barking people every Friday will remain, there will be no reforms.
People like Monajed, settling in abroad, lecturing how everything will go just perfect after the toppling of the regime, these people either paid by Americans & Zionists to say so, or they are completely out of their minds… if they ever had ones!
It’s very easy to rest one leg over the other, and tell the poor people in Syria to uprise against the regime, while he and his alike are eating and sleeping well in Europe & North America … really I have no polite word to say about such characters…

Comment 14 by syrian commando

Relax man, you are exagerating. Turkey has 0 benefit from attaking Syria. This senario is not in play. Both Iran and Syria can supports the Kurds and cause a lot of hell to Erdogan. The pressure Turkey is facing and the angry language by its politicisns results from the Syrian refugee which created a crises for Turkey. Now Turkey has to deal with 10000 syrians in its land. I find no reason for your exagerated fears.

The people who wanted to attack Syria did so and unfortunately they succeeded in their plans and actions. Now the crises is internal and it is up to the Syrian people to solve it or not. Syrias’ current problem is sectarian war

Memo to SYRIAN COMMANDO:

RE: “Erdogan even fooled me.”

Fooled you? Even you? Shocking!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Dale_Andersen/syria-turkey-border-refugees_n_879944_93229486.html

Comment 17 by Usama,

You are 100 % right, a regional war is too costly and that will not happen. The US dont want to mess around in th backyard of Iran, and Israel knows well that it is too close if lebanon or syria would be set on fire, as the fire will include them. I am not worried about he western, turkish, bullshit invasion delusional talk. Syria already in crises, already in internal war that is more damaging than any western missile. The problem we have deaf people in the opposition that dont listen, wont negotiate and their only meal on the menue is to bring the regime own, and heir resturant is only open on Fridays

11. SYR.Expat said:
“Bashar can stop the Bilderberg conspiracy dead in its track by delivering the real reforms the vast majority of his people wants.”

Try to live in reality. NATO/Bilders couldnt give a rats tail about ‘reforms’. This is about regime change and installing their own new puppet. When they took down Iraq they made no provision for anything except the Oil Ministry.

Assad pulled his troops out of Lebanon, he established an Embassy in Beirut- doing their requested ‘reforms’. Went acknowledged by the West. They also want Syria out of the way (and thus Hezbollah) so Iran can be eliminated for Israel.

My bet is on Shell and Halliburton; cant see Bilders rescinding already existing Shell deals. Of course BP will get a good chunk for The City. Even Zion Oil & Gas and Noble may get a piece too, of course under deniable subsidiaries.

I meant to say Bashars reforms “Went UNacknowledged by the West.”
‘Reforms’ are a marketing tool only, and they wont appease The West. They want the Assads OUT.

Interesting conversation. But regarding Lebanon, is Professor Landis aware that last summer they only had 12 hours of electricity a day, tops? Not exactly thriving over there, are they. There was a reason why they went months without a government. Without Gulf aid, Lebanon would be bankrupt.

Regarding the need to co-opt the upper business class…er, no, not really. Up to the last moment, the Egyptian business elite were firmly behind Mubarak. A couple of weeks before his downfall, alot of their families were bundled off to Europe in private planes.

The French, Russian, and American revolutions succeeded, without the need to co-opt every single social and economic class in their respective countries. In Syria, it would be enough for the bulk of the army to disintegrate.

Let me share a story; a friend of my aunt told us about an incident involving Sunni conscripts who were assigned to a checkpoint near a village on the Homs-Damascus highway. These conscripts were so poorly supplied that they had to ask for water and bread from nearby houses.

One day, one of the soldiers was collecting water from our friend’s house, and saw the news on the TV in the kitchen. To his horror, the news was about his home village in the south of Syria, and the pictures showed tanks and troops moving towards it. His screams of anguish caused his friends to come running to the house. It turned out all three conscripts were from the same village.

The next morning, their abandoned uniforms were found by the side of the road.

Oh, and “Bilderberg” conspiracy? A new conspiracy against the eye doctor…it must be Saturday.

Aboud-

We already know you are of Lebanese origin. We figured that out months ago. Only the Lebanese would constantly say “the Syrian soldiers had no food or water”. And another thing, the tanks moves I’n to the south way before the troops were deployed on the Homs Damascus highway :-)))) u must be one of those aljaZeera eyewitnesses

24. Aboud,

Sounds like the laughs I had from a friend in Mosul way back in early 2002 vis a vis the Bilders and coming Iraq War. Saturday or Sabbath Day, depends on the boss’s language. She’d “heard it all” too. LOLOL

BTW- can you give any updates on Nahr Al Barad or whats happening in Tripoli? Any Change you can believe in?

Aboud
I love your aunt story,very interesting, can you ask her what did they were after they abanded ther uniforms,or did they walked naked.I was driving that day actually and have seen the uniforms,and now I can put the pictur togetherيحرق حريشك و حريش خالتك بري عليك

Aboud , are you for real? you shared this story about the solders to prove some point ,well let me share another story with you its about Homs (our city you and me) when the terror started in Homs the early days (thanks to you) my family did not feel safe till the Army entered the city .

why you guys trying to discredit the army like that? you live in Homs and the Army is still there ,tell me what crimes are they committing?why Homsis did not evacuate the city so far? aren’t you still alive and demonstrating every day according to you? can you leave the brave Syrian Army aside of the fabrications and lies please !!

Medvedev said Russia was ready to use its veto to block a Western-sponsored resolution on Syria at the United Nations as it could be used as cover for military action.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/russia-to-veto-syria-resolution-medvedev/story-e6frf7jx-1226078645141

The criminal corrupt dictator Bashar signed his death warrant.
Yalla shoes in your face ya jahesh,like the worse kind of whore who teach lessons of morality.
Also he appeared very stressed.it’s a good sign for Syria’s near future.

Great speech,

the Gulf potato bags are jalous… They can’t even articulate classical Arabic this good!

I like how everyone was paying more attention to the guy’s accent rather than listening to what he has to say!!

How do you expect the protests to stay non-sectarian when the regime is invading cities and villages using the ALAWITE republican guards, fourth division forces and shabeeha. How do you expect the protesters to react?

Minorities has no right of accusing the protester of being led by sectarian influence when they themselves are standing foolishly behind the Asad regime simply because it’s in their interest to deny the majority’s rights? It’s funny how even secular Christians and Alawites changed their colors when the revolution erupted and started listening to their spiritual leaders.

Finally, we are heading to a civil war but Syria is not Lebanon or Iraq where the numbers are quite balanced. We are Rwanda and sooner or later the minorities will face a horrible fate if they don’t act fast and stop Assad and his gang at the right time.

Shami
You didn’t answer me yesterday about no two MB having any common position on anything.

By the way, you sound like a kid who has never voted. Where you live in the US, what are your prospects to participate in any kind of politics? In your municipality? At your work? At the state level?

873 , JAD

this zombie has the GUANTANAMO accent like his poneytail fellow
the recycled islamo-terrorist

🙂

BRAKING: Mr. Assad starts to dye his hair in black. His hairdresser needs to reform.
.

Mina ,it’s healthy that people disagree ,why should we behave like one man ?

I’m sorry but you seem a nostalgic of Stalin and Enver Hoja ,are you alterglobalist,Mina?

I never visited the US nor Great Britain and i rarely had the opportunity to speak english ,i’m french educated aleppine.

Shami,
Of course it’s healthy and I gave several links yesterday to some articulate Syrians. Strangely they did not mention you in the people who write intelligent things about their country.
I am for dialogue and I have written here 4 months ago: “what is needed is elections with international monitors”. If it had happened by then we would not have seen so many people dead.
Al-jahl zulm. What do you think of some people in your country who don’t see the point in sending their children/girls to school (in the 21st century) and to have them sleep at 9 PM in order that they can be good at school? Did you read the UNDP report on underdevelopment in the Middle East?
You are so found of Turkey, why don’t you try to live there? You will be told every day that you are an “Arabi haqir” and that all the Arabs are mutakhallifin, not nice?
You don’t read the comments, nor the articles posted by Joshua Landis, you just work as a propagandist, like most of the kids on Twitter who by clicking “retweet” have led foreign journalists to believe there was a real movement in Syria.

MINA

Shami says “i’m french educated aleppine”

therefore unless he’s lying (like many others on SC) he must be at the least 50 years aged, not a kid

What a speech indeed …

here’s a good summary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LYaBcXwm5hU

and to think the first speech was bad, oh boy!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. No wonder they only rarely allow him out of his room to give a speech. Yet more “we will do and we intend to do and we dream of doing”. Does he really think he’ll be around long enough to even set up all the committees he seems to spend his hours day dreaming of?

Bashar just proves once more he just…doesn’t…get it. As oblivious as the Tunisian and Egyptian dictators, to their very final days.

But of course, he could have spent his speech farting to the tune of “Jingle Bells”, and the one or two sycophants on this forum would have logged onto their numerous characters, and praised him as the best composer since Beethoven.

Let me share another story with you, which goes to illustrate how the regime doesn’t have a clue. Two weeks ago on a Friday, the shabiha scum started firing live ammunition in the Homs neighborhood of Baba Amr, at around the time of noon prayers.

It was a blatant, thugish attempt to intimidate people into staying in their homes during Friday prayers. What happened next was all too predictable; the nearby neighborhoods around Baba Amr, all upper middle class areas, went out in force and for the first time in 12 weeks, demonstrated.

They were mad, they were angry at the blatant, outrageous attempt to intimidate them into staying home during Friday prayers. And they spent over an hour demonstrating and chanting in support of Baba Amr.

Next day, the shabiha scum were replaced with regular Syrian army soldiers, and not a shot was heard to this day in the area. It was a stupid attempt at bullying a neighborhood, and all it did was to evoke sympathy from areas that until that day had been on the sidelines. Bravo, with friends like the shabiha scum, Bashar doesn’t need enemies (Harriri, Bandar, Turkey, NATO and now…Bilderberg? Is that an alcoholic drink or something?)

@30 Shami

Did you notice how sullen even his hand picked audience seemed to be? And his right arm seemed to be way more active than his left.

Whatever we saw up there, it wasn’t a man at all comfortable with himself. Gone are the silly jokes of the first speech.

And 64,000 people on the wanted list? If you printed out all their names, the list would be longer than that flag in Mezzi.

lol Mina why this paranoia?
To which Wahhabi,Sahyun,MB,Turkish team do i belong?

the reason people love Bashar is because he is such a loving person , when you plant love you rip love , off course the radicals will not like his language because they dont understand the culture of love ,i respect that he was talking o his people not to the outside world ,he addressed his people and people will respond with love

as for Shami yes its healthy to disagree but what not healthy is that you didnt even wait to listen to the speech to the end , your comment time shows you commented during the speech ,i guess you knew what to write even before it started

the opposition should know that they CAN NOT topple the regime , hatred has no place in Syria ,what we hate is the destruction that some people trying to force it on us .

Syria will never be the same , it will be better and better

The people who don’t think war is imminent are going to be shocked.

I’ve already called my family in Istanbul and told them to prepare themselves. Israelis here should make sure their basements are air tight because they’re going to be in there for a long time.

War with Turkey is now 90% likely and imminent.

38, 39, 40

stop polluting this blog with your nonsense and come to the facts

we are sick and tired of people like you

people pouring out of salafis mosques and shouting ALLAH WA AKBAR
is this your revolution ?

Baba Amr, all upper middle class areas ?

who are you kidding ?

bekaffi baqa

Did anyone get the bit about habeus corpus? People can’t be arrested without a warrant from the public prosecutor’s office unless caught red-handed? Isn’t this a major change or am I missing something?

Sisyphus,

Yes, it’s a major change, but vultures like #’s 30, 38 & 39 are too blinded by their hatred to see it. They are nothing but the same type of germ that Bashar was describing.

They deserve the utter stupidity of the hairless ponytail Ausama Monajed.

He misdiagnosed the disease again,brutal oppression is the problem,he promised nothing to stop it

Let’s be honest #47, you had your silly little messages typed out before he even opened his mouth to speak.

Bashaar has proven himself, but he should know that nothing he says will be enough. He should concentrate less on reform and more on warfare which he has very little experience with because it’s coming in weeks if not days.

Once Again,this Ausama Monajed is a big dreamer and is in a real denial,The only hope is that I would like to see more Syrian Christian brains contributing to the political life of Syria in the future,after all they are the one who creates the political parties and preserve the Arabic language(the Jesuit fathers were the first authors of Arabic Dictionary) during the dark ages of the Turkish empire.

48. Syrian Commando

Why would there be a war with Turkey, I don’t understand your logic?

Aboud ,it seems that he is forcing himself to believe in miracles .He and his shabiha will sank all together.

MAJEDKHALDOON

‘He misdiagnosed the disease again,brutal oppression is the problem,he promised nothing to stop it’

he did ! he talked about the citizen dignity ,the emergency law was lifted specially to end the oppression but we need to see an end to the terror first to apply the civil law , a civilized opposition is a good start for that .

Dear Vlad

To be precise about the “french educated aleppine” ,
the french school in Aleppo was burnt during ” peaceful” protests some 55 years ago
and recently reopened.
The results were very good
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=site%3awww.lyceefrancaisdalep.com&d=4599609547030812&mkt=fr-FR&setlang=en-US&w=b5609807,90be375f
until recently
http://www.lyceefrancaisdalep.com/

Sometimes , students don’t reach higher level history courses where they are taught about Fouquier-Tinville Robespierre and Marat.

A president is supposed to lead. Bashar is a man who gives every sign of being led. He is not, and never was, cut out to be a president.

Bashar really expects the refugees to come back, when his shabiha scum are shooting bakers in towns near the Turkish border, for the crime of having given bread to refugees?

And the satellite news channels had such a low regard for Bashar’s speech, that they devoted at most 20 minutes in the post-speech analysis. Erdogan’s election victory speech got more air time.

I watched the president’s speech.
I don’t know who was attending.
I noticed at the end that several ( and only ) young women rush toward him when he left the room to talk to him.
I am quite sure the scene was not planned and spontaneous.
I find this show of support interesting.
A far cry from
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/06/17/153670.html

What a lovely speech by Dr Bashar Al Assad.

“GIVE THEM NOTHING,BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING”.

ALLAH SOURIA BASHAR WOU BASS

the pres speech is intended to people who can understand argue and criticize (alsha3b alwa3i) not sheeps

this is not a dictartor’s speech

no lies, no shallow rhetoric

not a single word useless or ornamentory as in those of practically all arabs leaders

a very good speech far ahead of those of Obama Sarkozy Erdogan Poutine and their alikes

all the important issues where exposed frankly and argumented thoroughly transparently even the 80’s Hama events, the expats rights etc…

the next step should be multipartism and free parliamentary elections

RISE SYRIA

Dear HS

i guess Shami is from the old generation who attended in private christian schools which closed in the 60’s. The peacefuls protests you are alluding to occcured in 56 after the Suez Affair alongside with anti-christian and anti-jews riots. My parents witnessed all that.

Je milite pour l’ouverture de lycées publics français dans toutes les capitales provinciales en plus de ceux d’Alep et de Damas (Lattakieh, Qamishly, Deir Ezzor) où d’alleurs leur nombre est insuffisant. Sauf erreur 2 seulement. Mais vu la politique française actuelle c’est gravement compromis. Les projets de coopération culturelle sont au point mort.

Qui est Tinville ?

Dear Vlad

Fouquier-Tinvile was what they call now an “activist”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Quentin_Fouquier-Tinville

meanwhile England was thriving

Vlad
Les Francais se sont tirés une balle dans le pied en voulant à tout prix signer des gros contrats dans le Golfe.
Sarkozy était déjà détesté dans les milieux diplomatiques, son cas ne va pas s’arranger. Je crois qu’avec des gens comme Landis et ce commentaire d’hier re-posté par WD car inapercu, ce sont les Américains qui gagneront le jackpot. S’ils peuvent persuader Irak, Syrie et Jordanie de coopérer, on pourra regarder les pays autour devenir encore plus apathiques et diabétiques.

J’ai une suggestion: enseignez le francais en important des profs russes (et aussi belges et rwandais, qui manient cette langue mieux que beaucoup de francais). Car cette vrai que pour la littérature et le cinéma, il y a de la matière qu’on ne trouve pas chez les cow-boys.

Comprehensive reports on Bashar Al Assad’speech at NPR ( Except for the stupid quotes in the title)

Assad Blames ‘Saboteurs’ For Syria’s Crisis; Delivers ‘Mixed Messages’

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/06/20/137293490/assad-blames-saboteurs-for-syrias-crisis-delivers-mixed-messages

HS

I guess you mention him because he was an ‘activist’. A fashionable qualifier these days.

WD, I have my doubts on the role of NPR. Especially because of Acarvin, who simply retweets anything without verification.
Here is the live translation given by Haaretz. It mentions elections, something I haven’t seen in the other reports. Of course in the speech B al Asad also explained that the reforms had started and were being implemented since 2 months, but this is not reported as well, as for his meetings with the delegations of different places, which we don’t hear of in the “free press”.
In a recent speech, when asked who now represent the peace camp in israel, Hanan Ashrawi came up with only two names: Amira Haas and Gideon Levy (two Haaretz journalists). Indeed if not for Haaretz reporting on the exactions of the Israeli extreme-right, thugs, racists, terrorists and fundamentalists, it would simply never make it to the “free press” (and only 10 percent of what they report get there…). I guess the rest of the peace camp has already migrated to flee from Netanyahu and Liberman.

Assad urges Syrians to help restore normality even if ‘crisis lasts for months or years’ (Reuters)
13:09
Assad: No political solution with people who carry guns (Reuters)
13:05
Assad calls on refugees to return to their homes, guarantees their safety (Haaretz)
12:59
Assad: Elections due in August, reform package to be complete by September (Reuters)
12:56
Assad: The solution is to solve the problem with our own hands (Reuters)
12:51
Assad: We want peace for everyone (Haaretz)
12:38
Assad: National dialogue to begin soon, after agreement on mechanism (Reuters)
12:32
Assad: What some are carrying out in Syria related to sabotage not reform (Reuters)
12:23
Assad: Gunmen who carried out massacres in Jisr al-Shughour had sophisticated weapons (Reuters)
12:22
Assad: Worst aspect of current situation is moral destruction of our people (Haaretz)
12:21
Assad: The people of Syria have proved their national patriotism (Haaretz)
12:17
Assad: Justice Ministry to study expanding recent amnesty (Reuters)
12:17
Assad: 64,000 people wanted by authorities, some have handed themselves in (Reuters)
12:15
Assad: Should differentiate between people’s legitimate needs and saboteurs (Reuters)
12:14
Assad: We should solve Syrian problems ourselves (Reuters)
12:10
Assad: A few demonstrators taken advantage of good nature of Syrian people (Haaretz)
12:09
Assad: Must distinguish between peaceful demonstrate and those who destroy society (Haaretz)
12:06
Assad: Syria subject of foreign conspiracies because of political stance (Haaretz)
12:04
Assad: Many innocent people fell during protests (Haaretz)

MINA

l’intérêt du système éducatif français au niveau des études secondaires (les lycées) est la préparation aux filières des Grands Ecoles telles que Polytechnique X-Mines Pont-et-Chaussées HEC ENA etc… pas de délivrer des cours de culture française. Ces filières peuvent constituer un résrvoir de recrutements pour les futures élites dont le pays a besoin et qui seraient aussi capables de renforcer les liens avec l’Europe.

Concernant Sarko, il a écarté Guéant et JF Levitte des affaires syriennes et confié le truc à Alain Juppé. Le principal souci du nabot est de se faire réélire en 2012. D’où sa politique en Cote d’Ivoire, Lybie etc… Lui et Juppé sont complètement alignés sur les positions US. Ils les ont même devancées. C’est le deal avec les US.

Ce qui est absolument stupéfiant en France au sujet de la Syrie c’est que la quasi-totalité des journalistes et médias français sont “achetés” par les saoudiens les qataris ou leurs affidés Hariri et cie.

MINA

“I guess the rest of the peace camp has already migrated to flee from Netanyahu and Liberman”

all israelis of some importance that were advocating for peace treaty with Syria were dismissed swiftly, including the high ranking militaries

Netanyahoo stance is : no peace with Syria even if we keep all the Golan

Can you all please stop writing in French, you are giving people like me who are not well versed in languages complexes, the translation is not that good,

NORMAN

sorry i’m not fluent in English. But i’m improving thanks to SC 🙂

i guess you had some difficulties in translating one or to words :

le nabot = the dwarf = Sarkozy

Amazing: for the person who has removed my answer to Vlad in French about the islamophobia in these so-called elite schools,
could you please re-post it, because it is part of a plan to get all the commentators who claim to be French educated Alepines to show if this is true or not.

By the way: if we are allowed to continue in Arabic, why not French? It’s an academic website, no?

Vlad

La France est dans la m…
Sarkozy s’en va-t-en-guerre et aggrandit le cercle des pays que le France se doit de ramener dans le bon chemin.
De la Cote d’Ivoire a la Libye en passant par la Syrie, Napozy veut faire oublier le marasme de l’economie francaise et offrir aux francais de quoi retrouver le panache sur le role “renovateur” de la France sur l’echiquier mondial:
– Projet conference Israelo-Palestinienne en France: on n’en parle plus depuis que Hillary l’a snobe.
– La Libye; De 2 semaines, on parle de 6 mois et de millions d’euros
– La resolution anti-syrienne a l’ONU: Il n’y a plus qu’a convaincre la Chine et la Russie.. facile!
Bref un beau debut pour Alain qui porte le jupe!

“Assad the reformer” proves again that he does not plan any reforms.
At this stage Assad is clueless. If he seriously plans to just use brutality to stop the protests, then he is also stupid.

The speech will only hasten international sanctions that will slowly but surely strangle the regime.

AI(r)G

shnorrer you have nothing to say and nothing to prove aside your racism

The regime supporters use the same mechanism as the regime. When they cannot bear the truth, they use personal attacks against the people who speak it. What can you expect from people that would deny the Syrians freedom and dignity?

The Syrian-hating-zionists have nothing to contribute at all. Just the same tired hateful bullcrap ad infinitum.

Speaks about our dignity while his state kills everyone indiscriminately with white phosphorus.

These guys didn’t even listen to the speech, they’re just repeating the same thing hoping it still applies (hint: it never did and everyone is tired of it). They don’t want a good future for Syria.

71 SC

broadening and expanding the desert around israel is what they want
because these people cannot live in peace with their neighbouring nations. Peace means the end of Israel.

The regime supporters are hysterical and are using the same old excuse that nobody buys anymore. It is Assad that is denying Syrians freedom and dignity. It is Assad that cannot provide jobs. It is Assad who commands to torture detainees. All your ranting about Zionists cannot change the fact. Assad is going down and Syrians will have freedom and dignity like they deserve.

Algeria foreign ministry Mourad Medelci disagrees with the EU about Syria and Libya in Luxembourg meeting.

I guess any resolution against Syria will not be condoned by the Arab League thus weakening the EU position

When asked about the question of a country leader loosing legitimacy, he said that this decision can only come from the citizen and should not be submitted to external pressures.
He says he is preoccupied by what is happening in Syria, a brotherly country. What is happening is not acceptable.

L’Orient le Jour 20 june 2011

L’Union européenne et l’Algérie ont constaté leurs divergences lundi sur le sort à réserver aux dirigeants syrien et libyen, qui pour Alger est du seul ressort des peuples concernés et ne doit pas faire l’objet de pressions extérieures.
Concernant le point de savoir “si tel ou tel leader doit ou pas perdre sa légitimité, qu’il s’agisse de la Syrie ou de la Libye, ceux qui sont principalement responsables pour répondre à cette question ce sont les peuples eux-mêmes” de ces pays, a déclaré le ministre algérien des Affaires étrangères, Mourad Medelci, lors d’une réunion avec l’UE à Luxembourg.

“Cette question n’est pas du ressort de l’Algérie”, a-t-il ajouté lors d’une conférence de presse, en réponse à une question sur la nécessité ou pas pour le président syrien Bachar al-Assad et pour Mouammar Kadhafi en Libye de quitter le pouvoir.
Dans le même temps, le chef de la diplomatie algérienne a assuré à propos de la Syrie que son pays était “très préoccupé par ce qui se passe dans ce pays frère”. “Ce qui s’y passe n’est pas acceptable, c’est clair”, a-t-il dit.

AIG

There will be no freedom as long as your paranocracy keeps pouring humiliation, blood and poison on Arabs.

AI(r)G

les chiens aboient la caravane passe

WD, Thanks for the translation, Vlad, SC did the same to me,

Algeria has been fighting the same people for the last 20 years and if Syria moves away from Iran , the West will shut up and do the same in Syria as it did in Algeria

Bashar is not a good speaker but the speech itself was not as bad as some say despite the fact that he failed to mention his intention to abolish article-8. How can we have free elections in august if albaath has the upper hand and we do not have a new political parties law?
Are they gonna keep the same formula or allow all to participate ?
I wanted to hear clear condemnation of violence by security forces and a commitment to send officers who violated the law ,and reportedly the president’s order,to court.
That was just a speech,he did not please or anger any new minds, most Syrians want to see real steps on the ground,they are tired of speeches .on a personal note,Bashar did not look “bad or aging” ,he looked fine.this crisis may help prepare him to be the president of Syria :),a country full of leaders with no ordinary citizens. Today I am where I was before the speech.turkey and stopping the violence is my main concern,not the speech.

WD #69

the only care of the dwarf (le nabot) is to remain president and be re-elected no matter at what cost

as for the UN resiolution, they have to convince Brasil, South-Africa and India in order to avoid a russian or chinese veto

very easy indeed 🙂

The translation of the speech here is VERY FAR from accurate.
Any link to a better translation?
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=syrias-al-assad-makes-public-speech-2011-06-20

Putin has killed dozens of thousands in Chechenya and he is Bush and Berlusconi’s best friends. The Algerians have killed thousands, but they have natural gas.

NORMAN

why should Syria moves away from Iran.

Unlike the western so-called democracies : did Iran agress any country ?

Vietnam, Cuba and South-America , Iraq, Afghanistan , Ivory Coast Lybia etc… etc… whom these countries were aggressed by ?

What about the US public debt. These people are vampirizing the whole planet

FACTS PLEASE

what a joke..who is Ausama Monajed? He runs London based.. Movement for Justice and Development wich us state department gave 6 million dollars to pursue regime change in syria..he also worked for us funded baradatv..otehr notables in that group include,,ammar abdulhammid who works for zionist brookings/saban center think tank..anotehr fraud there is dr radwan ziadeh who works for brittihs military think tank(IISS0 WICH IS FUNDED BY NM ROTHSCHILD FINANCIAL,DEBEERS,ANGLO AMERICAN CORPORATION AND OTEHR GLOBALIST GROUPS..

MMAR ABDULHAMMID AND DR RADWAN ZIADEH EXPOSED(ZIONIST/NEOCON AGENTS) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJVzMnRUbrI 1 minute into it… WikiLeaks Reveals US Provided Funds to Anti-Government Syrian Exile Group United States has funneled about $6 million to the London-based Movement for Justice and Development since 2006. http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2011/05/wikileaks-reveals-us-provided-funds-to-anti-government-syrian-exile-group/

WHAT A JOKE…

ABUGHASSAN

the pres may be not a good speaker. Actually he is a bit awkward

But you can’t find a speech with such quality in modern history … since Roosevelt and Churchill

Why Discuss,

If you haven’t noticed, it is Assad who is pouring humiliation on Syrians. He is denying them freedom and dignity. Israel is absolutely not an issue here. It is an internal Syrian issue and the culprit is the Assad regime. For 40 years the Assad regime used Israel as an excuse. Well, guess what? Nobody is buying it anymore. The situation in Syria is the responsibility of the Assad regime and the problem is that it is denying Syrians freedom and dignity.

The victims of NATO’s deliberate attack against civilians:

This is what garbage like Shami and the rest of his deserve-to-die ilk intend for Syria. I hope people like that become nothing more then a blood smear. Shami, along with every terrorist like him, don’t deserve to be alive. They will NEVER recognize ANY form of reforms, because reforms are not the intention of the Islamist terrorists.

If Turkey does try and invade Syria, let us not pretend that it was something that was decided due to ‘escalation.’ We saw that Zionist, Abdel Halim Khaddam, on Israeli TV, announce that Turkey, by order of NATO, was preparing for an imminent invasion of Syria, and that it was going to happen. He said this maybe 2 months ago. How do you expect to please the terrorist opposition with reforms if they are already from the beginning deciding to reject ALL reforms (While simultaneously pretending to demand them) and invade, way ahead of time? Don’t forget that every time the president gave them something they asked for, they moved the goal post and demanded something else, only so that they can keep the illegitimate and terrorist protests going in order to escalate the situation (by the hand of armed terrorist groups) and then blame the government. These are not people that should be reasoned with; these are people that should be killed, because they fit the very description of enemies of the state.

for more on syria see (LIST OF FACTS SUPRESSED IN MSM)…. http://syriafalseflag.blogspot.com/ see how opposition eladers”eladers” are all zionist and neoocn tied…also see…SYRIAWATCH-Internet, the new hope for Cyber dissidents Middle East(exposed) http://thenakedfacts.blogspot.com/2011/06/internet-new-hope-for-cyber-dissidents.html SYRIAWATCH-EXPOSED!HOLLYWOOD PRODUCTION(firecrackers posing as gunshots by opposition) http://thenakedfacts.blogspot.com/2011/06/syriawatch-exposedhollywood-production.html FLASHBACK- CIA-Radio Free Syria http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Radio_Free_Syria http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Farid_N._Ghadry http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Regime_change_in_Syria http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Iran-Syria_Operations_Group

SYRIA-ANOTHER FRONT GROUP FOR NEOCONS AND ZIONISTS..(MUST SEE) http://thenakedfacts.blogspot.com/2011/06/syria-another-front-group-for-neocons.html

sorry but israel is the issue here…the fact that 99% of syrias opposition”leaders” are tied to neocon/zionist think tanks,working with them,and funded by these groups,is absolutly the bigges undiscussed issue…look at dr radwan ziadeh,ammar abdulhammid,khadam,and ausama munajed..tehs eraea few..i have documented rest like Farid_N._Ghadry and many more..all tehse are regulars at zionist think tanks..this is same groups who pushed iraq war..and now thes esyria opposition eladers are directing regime change in syria thru same mechanisms,that is not only significant,its absolutly evidence of globlist and israeli conspiracy in syria and region…

And the hysterics by regime supporters continue. No jobs in Syria? Its the Zionists. No freedom? Its the Zionists. No dignity? Its the Zionists. In fact, anybody against Assad is a Zionist.

Don’t waste your time. Nobody is buying this anymore. Assad is responsible for lack of jobs and lack of freedom and dignity. It is time he went home and the brave Syrians get what they deserve: Freedom and dignity which will be the basis for hope for a better future.

Of course Israel is an issue, but the main issue is actually Syria. Syria’s the last remaining independent nation (even Iran has strings attached to it) and as such the bastards don’t want to leave us alone.

#50

Logic is simple, just look at the troop movements. They’re not dancing around. You don’t commit troops to the border when you supposedly have internal problems. You do that in preparation for a war. Look at international troop movement, you will see everyone is preparing for war.

Every indication tells me that this war will eventuate very soon.

#90

Quiet, we have had enough of your Israeli vomit. All we’re saying is when in glass houses, you shouldn’t throw stones.

SK #87

“deserve-to-die ilk”

i agree 100%

you say to these individuals : are you not ashamed of acting like that and uttering such lies , dont you have any conscience , dont you see the killings and the destruction ?

they just grin like the AI(racist)G above

they are “mou-bashar” (non-human) , nihilist undermen , zombies i call them , wahabbis and zionists the same shit backed by the US neo-cons , first democracy haha ! standing ovations please !

@90 AIG

Syria’s soccer team got knocked out in the first round of the Asian Cup? Zionists of course.

10 liras per internal SMS? Zionists!

World’s highest Internet charges with the crappiest service in the world? Zionists!!!!!!

Army conscripts spend their time working on the farms of senior officers? ZIONIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSTS!!!!!!!

10 students per computer in the school computer labs? ZIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOONIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISTS!!!!

Sorry AIG, normal people blame their parents for all the ills in their lives. But Baathists blame Zionists, as Papa Assad is beyond reproach.

NORMAN

you remove Mina’s comment and keep those of AIG and Abboud. I dont get it

@93 ABBROUD

conard va te faire aimer … chez les saoudiens

#94

Israelis deserve to have more say in what happens to Syria than Syrians themselves apparently. This is western DE-MOCK-CRAZY!

80. ABUGHASSAN,
I agree with your view to a large extent. But the problem is, there’s too much water under the bridge when it comes to many people. Particularly the activists who are spearheading the grass-root demonstrations (and I’ve talked to a few of them after the speech) because they’ve seen and bore the brutality of the Mukhabarat themselves, and thus have little confidence that “promises” will be turned into actions. While many of them do not refuse the political dialogue track, they insist that the demonstrations and civil action must continue. And this is where it gets very tricky. If the president can not control his security apparatus in this coming week or two, and we still see demonstrators being brutalized and we still see many dying, it would completely destroy any hints of goodwill delivered by the speech, and we’ll be back to square one.

رسالةٌ مفتوحةٌ من كاهن عربي سوري.. إلى وزير خارجية بواسطة ADMIN – 2011/06/12
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السيد الوزير

أنا كاهن عربي من سورية. بلغني للتوّ تصريحك في الولايات المتحدة المتعلق بالشرعية في جمهوريتنا. ‏

لا يسعني، بوصفي مواطناً سورياً، أن أحتفظ بالصمت، حيال مثل هذا التدخل في شؤون بلدي. ‏

بوصفك أستاذاً جامعياً، لا يجوز لك أن تجهل أن شرعية رئيس جمهورية تتوقف على إجماع شعبه فقط، وليس على مزاجية دولة ما. ‏

وبوصفك وزيراً لخارجية دولة مثل فرنسا يجب عليك أن تعرف أن سورية بلد ذو سيادة، وهي عضو مؤسِّس في هيئة الأمم المتحدة. ‏

ولكن، بوصفك ناطقاً باسم بعض سادة العالم الراهن، بدا لك أنك تستطيع أن تقرر، وفق هواك، مصير بلدان أخرى، ومنها سورية. ‏

دعني أقول لك باسم ملايين الضحايا التي سحقها الغرب منذ قرون: لقد آن الأوان للكفّ عن القيام بدور الآدميين المتوحشين، كما آن لكم أن تكفّوا عن امتهان جميع حقوق الشعوب الأخرى، حتى تدمير وجودهم بالذات، كما يحلو لكم أن تفعلوا منذ عقود، في العراق وأفغانستان وباكستان، وفي أفريقيا كلها، ولاسيما في ليبيا. ‏

السيد الوزير ‏

لنعُد إلى سورية.. هل نسيت أن الهدف الأبعد لجميع المناورات، السياسية منها والدبلوماسية والفتنوية، التي أُعدّت ضد سورية، منذ أكثر من شهرين، قد كشفته بكل صفاقة وكيلة وزارة الدفاع الأميركية، السيدة «ميشل فلورنوي» (Michele FLOURNOY)، وقد كانت على ثقة من نجاح المؤامرة المدبّرة ضد سورية، حيث أعلنت على الملأ: «إن بوسع سورية أن تستعيد كل أمنها، في اليوم الذي تلغي فيه ارتباطها بإيران وحزب الله، وتبرم عقد سلام مع إسرائيل!»؟ ‏

يا أيها المشاهير من دبلوماسيين وسياسيين غربيين، هل بِتّم مجرد ناطقين مأجورين باسم الإرادة الإسرائيلية؟ ‏

أم تُراكم نسيتم في فرنسا وأوروبا، الشرف العظيم الذي جلبته لكم مقاومتكم للاحتلال النازي؟ إنه يجب على ذاكرتكم التاريخية، مهما أصابها من نسيان أو تناس، إن تذكّركم بذلك. ‏

هل كان على الاحتلال النازي أن يطبق على فرنسا وأوربا أكثر مما فعل، حتى يبقى شعوركم بمعنى الظلم والقهر حياً حتى الآن؟ ‏

ولكن إن كنتَ بوصفك وزيراً لفرنسا الجنرال ديغول، قادراً على التغاضي، لأسباب تعيسة، عن هذا الشرف التاريخي، عندها، دعني أقولُ لك، بوصفي مجرد مواطن سوري، أن سورية لن تقبل، بأيّ حال، أن تتغاضى عن واجبها الحيوي في الدفاع عن وجودها بالذات، أولاً ضد الاحتلال الإسرائيلي، ثم ضد الخطر القاتل الذي تشكّله الصهيونية على الأمة العربية كلها. ‏

ومع ذلك، فإنه يبدو لي أن الغرب يصرّ على الاستمرار غرباً، مع أنه لم يعُد كذلك. ‏

والحقيقة هي أن الغرب مرهون بماضٍ استعماري، مثقل، بل مثقل جداً باحتلالاته الدامية، وبحروبه الإجرامية، وبترحيلاته اللاإنسانية لشعوب برمّتها، وبسرقاته المنتظمة للبلدان المستعمَرة، من الشرق الأدنى إلى الشرق الأقصى، وإفريقيا وأستراليا، وبتقطيعاته العشوائية والملغومة على المدى البعيد، للعديد من الشعوب والبلدان، وبإباداته المنظمة للشعوب الأصلية، ولاسيما في مجمل القارة الأميركية وقارات المحيط الهادئ. ولذلك كان الغرب دائماً مدفوعاً بشهية لا حدود لها، لفرض سيطرته على الآخرين. ‏

ولأنكم، أيها الغربيّون، تدوسون بأقدامكم جميع الحقوق، كما تحاولون اليوم أن تفعلوا في سورية، لم تشعروا يوماً بأدنى خجل من ادّعائكم امتلاك الحق كله. فالقوي في عُرفكم لا يخطئ البتة. ‏

ولكن، أيها السادة الأوربيون، لقد حدث أن انتقلتم فعلاً من طور السادة إلى طور الأجَراء. وفي الواقع، هل يسعكم الادّعاء بأنكم تجهلون أن أوربا كلها باتت تجرّ أذيالها وراء الولايات المتحدة؟ ‏

إن ذلك لم يعد سراً. وأنتم تعرفون جيداً عدداً كبيراً من المفكرين الأوروبيين الذين لا يكفّون عن الدعوة للإسراع إلى تحرير أوروبا من «الفخ الأميركي». ‏

ولكن ما حدث هو أن الولايات المتحدة بدورها باتت ضحيةً لفخ آخر، يدعى اللوبي الإسرائيلي الذي بسط نفوذه الكلي عليها. وحسبي أن أذكّر بما كتب بهذا الشأن، كلّ من نعوم تشومسكي وبول فيندلي وستيفن والت وجون ميرشايمر، لأجنبّك محاولة التنصل من هذه النتيجة المُرّة. ‏

أفلستم بذلك، إذاً، في أوربا، أجراءَ أجراءِ الصهيونية؟ ‏

السيد الوزير ‏

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لنقرّ بأن الغرب، على الرغم ممّا يملك من قوة جبارة، قد فقد رصيده. ‏

في الواقع، ففي الأمم المتحدة وفي مجلس الأمن، وفي غيرهما من المؤسسات الدولية المزعومة، بات واضحاً أن الأمور المتعلقة بالدول غير الغربية، تُحوّل ممثلي الغرب، إلى أسود متغطرسين، يجيزون لأنفسهم جميع أنواع التدخلات، ويبلغون حد تدمير بلدان بكاملها، رأساً على عقب. حسبي أن أذكر أفغانستان والعراق، وما يحدث اليوم في ليبيا. وكل ذلك يجري باسم «الديمقراطية وكرامة الإنسان وحقوقه!». ‏

أما إذا تعلق الأمر بإسرائيل، فإن جميع الدول الغربية من دون استثناء، من «أعظمها» إلى «أصغرها»، وعلى رأسها الولايات المتحدة، تتحول إلى كتلٍ من عدم، كتل عمياء، صمّاء، بكماء. ‏

مع أن التحقيقات الصحفية التي أُجريت حتى في أوروبا، انتهت إلى أن إسرائيل هي القوة الإرهابية بامتياز، بل ذهبت إلى أن إسرائيل تشكل الخطر الأكبر على السلام في العالم! ‏

والصهيونية كانت إرهابيةً حتى قبل الإعلان عن نشوء إسرائيل عام 1948. وإذا ما راوَدك أي شك في هذا الشأن، فإني أحيلك إلى كتاب مرعب حقاً، لمؤرخ فرنسي، وهو يهودي وصهيوني، يدعى «شارل أندرلان» (Charles ENDERLIN). وفي العنوان ما يكشف عن مضمون هذا الكتاب: «بالنار والدم» (باريس 2008). ‏

وقد ظلّت إسرائيل: قاتلة، سارقة، محاربة، متوحشة، متغطرسة، تنتهج العنصرية والتوسع والإبادة، مع أن اليهود عُوملوا بالحسنى، في البلدان العربية والإسلامية. وإن لدى مؤرخيهم من النزاهة ما يجعلهم يعترفون بذلك. إلا أنهم وجدوا طرقاً لتحميل جميع البلدان العربية والإسلامية، ضريبة باهظة جداً على ما حلّ بهم من عنف غربي ومحرقة نازية. ولقد خططوا منذ «بن غوريون» لتدمير هذه البلدان، في الوقت الذي أنزلوا فيه على عرب فلسطين، بمسيحيّيهم ومسلميهم، محرقةً تجاوزت الستين عاماً. ‏

السيد الوزير.. ‏

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اسمح لي بطرح سؤال أخير عليك: ‏

أنت وزير خارجية بلد هو فرنسا، يتباهى بتمسكه الصلب بعلمانيته، فكيف تسوّغ الدعم غير المشروط الذي تقدّمه فرنسا لبلد يريد أن يكون يهودياً صرفاً؟ ‏

أخيراً، دعني، بوصفي كاهناً كاثوليكياً، أقدم لك التعازي من أجل كنيسة فرنسا، لأنها، كما تبدو لي، قد ماتت وانتهت، بسبب صمتها الآثم، إزاء الكوارث المتلاحقة، التي لا يكفّ الغرب عن ارتكابها بحق العالم العربي والإسلامي، وتالياً، على حساب وجود المسيحيين، وهم أبناؤه الأصَلاء، في سبيل توفير شروط البقاء لإسرائيل. ‏

لكم كان على حق، البابا يوحنا بولس الثاني، عندما افتتح خطابه في إحدى زياراته لكم: «فرنسا… فرنسا، أين معموديتك؟!» ‏

السيد الوزير، ‏

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دعني أطالبك بالحد الأدنى من النزاهة والكرامة. ‏

Vlad, I have no control on anything on SC , please stop the accusations

Abughassan:

President Assad did mention Article 8 when talking about constitutional changes, but of course he can’t declare himself that Article 8 will be stricken from the constitution, as that would give the impression of a complete lack of institutional functionality, and he is not about to paint such a picture, even if it is true. The only way that Constitutional amendments can be made, legally, is through the Majles al Shaab, and that’s how President Assad is going to go about it, even if such a path is merely a formality. I believe President Bashar al Assad is clearly laying the groundwork for all these coming changes. We are soon going to see the dissolution of the Jabha and the freezing of the qiyada qotriyah.

Yazan,

You bring up a good point. I actually support the idea of continued demonstrations in order to keep the pressure on the regime to follow through with the promises, so long as these demonstrations are peaceful. I think President Assad has been working hard on reigning in the security forces to avoid further bloodshed. I believe a good example is Hama, where the security forces were pulled out of the streets and the people there were allowed to demonstrate peacefully in what was a wonderful image of what political activism in Syria can look like. However, I also believe that the genuine activists MUST condemn and denounce all those who are engaging in violence and destructive behavior during the demonstrations, which the vast majority of Syrians completely reject.

The protests have to stop because there’s enough pressure from terrorists to implement reform. There’s no going back.

Only protest when there’s inaction otherwise you’re aiding the enemy. That said, the enemy is going to attack even if there’s no genuine protests at all.

Keep your eye on Qamishli.

There is something wrong with the way Syrian Knight (né Syria Almighty) calls death on other Syria Comment folks. I really do not like to see this faceless emigré in Canada uttering such hateful speech. It is as if his desires for Syria can only be slaked by the destruction of his presumed opponents. It is wrong for SK/SA to urge death, and I condemn him for these remarks. I condemn the other faceless hatemonger for his 100% support.

I do not see the expatriate soft-reform advocates like Mina condemning such language. I do not think that Mina and WD and Syrian Commando and other Assad-friendly folks here support these kinds of remarks.

Another thing that stings is when hidden pseudonyms denigrate and doubt the citizenship of others. For example, the mysterious Mina says ‘Where you live in the US’? to Shami?

By what right does Mina (of unknown citizenship and interest) excoriate Shami and dismiss his rights as a Syrian citizen? Who is this person to be so lordly about who is a real Syrian?

Please, lessen the calls to blood and destruction, hidden faceless people. Show some integrity and declare your own interests before you condemn, doubt, dismiss and call for death.

Here is the official speech of the president
http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2011/06/20/pr-353686.htm

Dear VLAD
Regarding the “nain” et le “meilleur d’ entre nous” et ” grand menteur” ,
they are , above all, misinformed by the economic owners of the french newspapers and lobby of the ” grand peuple sûr de lui et dominateur “

AIG

“Nobody (in Israel) is buying this anymore”, but be sure that Israel presence is perceived by all Arabs as a nuisance to the development of their country. Once this crisis will pass, be sure that they will all turn against Israel (no more US puppet regimes).
How can a racist, loud voice and land grabber paranocracy be useful in the region?

ردّ على مقالة السيد جان عزيز طباعة البريد الإلكترونى
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السبت, 18 يونيو/حزيران 2011 08:20
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كتب السيد جان عزيز مقالاً يعقِّب فيه على الرسالة المفتوحة التي وجّهها الشاعر أدونيس إلى الرئيس الشامي بشار الأسد. وتبنّى عزيز في المقال نظرة “الإخوان المسلمون” الذين يزعمون أن الفكرة القومية والوعي القومي ماهو إلا بدعة ابتدعها أبناء الأقليات الدينية من أجل الالتفاف على الدين والخلافة وغيره …
إنه يؤسفنا أن يتبنّى السيد عزيز هذا المنطق الذي لا يرى أبناء المجتمع الواحد إلا “أقليات وأكثريات” تتناحر وتتكاذب وتتناهش الوطن من أجل البقاء أو السيطرة. والمؤسف أكثر أن يتّهم روّاد نهضتنا ومفكرينا بأنهم كانوا يمارسون الاحتيال والتذاكي على “الأكثرية” عندما حاولوا أن يجدوا الحلول للنهوض بأمّتهم، بالرغم من أنهم ضحّوا بأرواحهم وأرزاقهم من أجل وطنهم وشعبهم (بأكثريته وأقليته).
صحيح أن التيار الأكبر المنتشر في عالمنا العربي هو التيار الديني، ولكن الأصحّ أننا ندفع الآن ثمن انتشار هذه التيارات من تنابذ وتقاتل وشذوذ فكري وخراب عمران ومصائب جلبها لنا من جلب هذا الفكر الديني الحزبي. إن الاسباب التي أدّت إلى صعود هذا التيار كثيرة، ولكنها حتمًا ليست بسبب انهزام أو عدم صلاحية التيارات القومية والعلمانية. إن من أسباب صعود التيار الديني المذهبي الحزبي سيطرة البترودولار والإمكانيات الهائلة التي سُخِّرت من أجله، وصولاً إلى حرب الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية الباردة والساخنة مع السوفيات سابقًا وحاجتها إلى حاجزٍ ما يمنع الإمبراطورية “الملحدة” من الامتداد في العالم الإسلامي إلى المياه الدافئة وغيره من المصالح الدولية التي كانت تحتضن هذا الفكر وتستخدمه حين تحتاجه لمصالحها.
أليس هذا ما فعلته مصر أمريكا، مصر السادات حين استخدمت الورقة الدينية لمحاربة النفوذ السوفياتي واقتلاعه من مصر عبد الناصر؟؟ أليست هذه الورقة نفسها التي استخدمتها أمريكا في أفغانستان لدحر النفوذ السوفياتي فيه؟
لقد ادعى السيد عزيز أن أولئك المفكرين، ومنهم صاحب رسالة عامة، قد أعلنوا هزيمتهم الفكرية أمام الفكر “الأكثري”!! وساق أدلة ليست بأدلة، من كلام يثير الاستهجان عن أن الشيوعيين يفتتحون اجتماعاتهم الحزبية بالبسملة!! وغير ذلك وصولاً إلى سعاده، وهنا الطامة الكبرى، فهو حاول الإيحاء بأنه يتكلم بلغة العارف والدارس، وإذ به يظهر جاهلاً تمامًا بفكر سعاده ضاربًا أمثلة غير موفقة ولا رابط بينها ولا تخدم موضوعه، لأن كلّ همه كان على ما يبدو أن يدعم فكرته وهدفه حتى ولو كان ذلك على حساب الحقيقة وحتى لو كان في كلامه تجنٍّ وتشويه لأصحاب الرسالات الإنسانية الكبرى.
كنت أتمنى أن يعطينا رأيًا أو نقدًا حقيقيًا وعلميًا يفيدنا وينفع القارئ القومي وغير القومي، كنا على الأقل شكرناه لفتحه موضوعًا للمناقشة يغني الفكر ويفيد الناس، ولكنني تفاجأت بقوله التالي: “تمامًا كما حلم أقلّوي أرثوذكسي آخر هو أنطون سعاده، بتخطّي الفكر الأكثري نفسه صوب سوريا التاريخ والجغرافيا و«الأمّة». قبل أن يعلن «هزيمته» هو أيضًا. فينسى «المدرحية» ويشهر أن «كلنا مسلمون…» تمامًا كما كانت أحلام أقلّويي النهضة العربية”….. فما هي علاقة المدرحية بمقولة “كلنا مسلمون لربِّ العالمين، منا من أسلم لله بالإنجيل ومنا من أسلم لله بالقرآن ومنا من أسلم لله بالحكمة، وليس لنا من عدو يقاتلنا في حقنا وأرضنا وديننا إلا اليهود”؟
وكيف استنتج السيد عزيز أن سعاده أعلن هزيمته حين أطلق هذه المقولة؟؟!!
إن المثال الذي ذكره السيد عزيز ليس أكثر من تجنٍّ على سعاده ومحاولة لإيصال صورة مشوّهة عن سعاده إلى القارئ العادي غير العارف. إن مثاله الذي ذكره يشبه تمامًا المثال التالي: إن الدليل على أن الأمطار تهطل في دمشق الآن هو أن الرئيس أوباما يأكل المجدّرة في البيت الأبيض ولذلك أعلنت الأرجنتين هزيمتها في حرب الفوكلاند. إن من يستطيع أن يجد رابطًا بين المطر في دمشق والمجدّرة في البيت الأبيض وحرب الفوكلاند يستطيع أن يجد رابطًا منطقيًا بين أمثلة السيد عزيز.
إن المدرحية هي فكرة فلسفية ضمن الفلسفة السورية القومية الاجتماعية، وتفيد أن الوجودَ ماديٌّ – روحيٌّ في آن، في مقابل الفكرتين: الشيوعية القائلة بأن الوجود ماديّ بحت، والرسمالية القائلة بأن الوجود روحيّ بحت.
أما مقولة “كلنا مسملون..” فهي جاءت في سياق رد سعاده على تحريضات الشاعر القروي الطائفية ومن خلال درسه للمسيحية والمحمدية. وقد أسس سعاده في دراسته لفهم جديد للدين ونزّهه ورفعه عن التعصّب والتحزّب ورفض الآخر أو تكفيره بأن أعاده إلى مقصده الأساسي، وهو تسامي المجتمعات الإنسانية والتراحم بين أبناء المجتمع الواحد، وأبرز القيم الكثيرة التي تشترك فيها المسيحية والمحمدية، وفسّر بالأسباب البيئوية الاختلاف في بعض القيم، وشدّد على أن المسيحية والمحمدية هما مذهبان في دين واحد هو الإسلام أي التسليم بوجود الله الخالق وأن أي خلاف عقائدي ماورائي يُترك حله لله (فإن اختلفتم على شي فأمره لله)، و(لاتدينوا لئلا تدانوا)..
إن عقيدة سعادة و”علمانيته” أو عقلانيته لم تكن أبدًا إلحادية ولم تحارب الدين أبدًا من وجهة الأفكار الدينية الفلسفية أو اللاهوتية، المتعلقة بأسرار النفس والخلود وماوراء المادهة، بل حارب الحزبية الدينية وفكرة الجامعة الدينية السياسية المنافية للقومية عمومًا والممزقة لنسيج المجتمعات ووحدتها وهو ما نعاني منه اليوم في عالمنا العربي.
إن الرد البسيط والمباشر على ادعاء الصحافي جان عزيز بأن سعاده أعلن هزيمته الفكرية أمام الأكثري تتجلى في مواقف سعادة الحاسمة والجذرية تجاه علاقة الدين بالدولة من خلال المبدأ الإصلاحي الأول: “فصل الدين عن الدولة”، والمبدأ الإصلاحي الثاني: “منع رجال الدين من التدخل في شؤون السياسة والقضاء القوميين.” والمبدأ الإصلاحي الثالث: “إزالة الحواجز بين مختلف الطوائف والمذاهب.”؟ ومن خلال إعلانه “إن القومية لا تتأسس على الدين” ومن خلال دعوته لقضاء مدني موحّد لجميع أبناء الطوائف في المجتمع والكثير من الأدلة التي لا مجال لذكرها هنا
إن سعاده ختم رسالته بدمه يوم استشهد في سبيل أمّته ومبادئه، ولم يتراجع لحظة في أي موقف أو كلمة أمام أي تيار ديني أو غير ديني عن مبادئه، وكم نحن اليوم بحاجة لجذرية موقف ومبادئ سعاده لإنقاذ أمّتنا مما تتخبط فيه.
في 17 حزيران 2011 إحسان الجمل

http://www.alqawmi.info/alpha/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1347:2011-06-18-06-26-46&catid=71:2009-01-28-22-44-56

مفوَّضية الشام المركزية “مأساة الخطاب الطائفي طباعة البريد الإلكترونى
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الإثنين, 20 يونيو/حزيران 2011 09:44
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مع تسارع الأحداث في الجمهورية الشامية ووصول الأزمة إلى مرحلة عصيبة على الجميع، وفي كلّ المواقع، وخاصةً بعد تصاعد النبرة الطائفية الهدامّة من أطراف عديدة تدعّي أنها معنية بالأزمة الوطنية الحالية مما يشكِّل خطرًا كبيرًا. فبعض أطراف المعارضة التي تتصدر وسائل الإعلام بدأت تتحدّث عن الطائفة الحاكمة ورموز طائفية وغير ذلك…. وبعض أفراد الشعب في الشارع يتحدّث عن حزب الله وإيران، في إشارة واضحة إلى الخطاب الطائفي وزجّ رموز طائفية معينة في خطابها السياسي، رغم عدم وجود أي دليل على صحة كلامهم سوى إشاعات وأقاويل خبيثة تبثّها بعض الأطراف التي تعمل وفق أجندة معينة غير بريئة، ويشاركهم في ذلك وبطريقة مباشرة أو غير مباشرة بعض وسائل الإعلام شبه الرسمي من خلال ما يسمى “حملتهم ضد الفتنة الطائفية” أو من خلال الرسائل النصّية التي تبثّ على شاشاتها وفي إذاعاتها.

إن هذا الخطاب وهذا النهج المخرِّب، خطاب يبتعد كلّ البعد عن قيم وتاريخ وحضارة الشعب السوري العريق، وهو مرفوض رفضًا مطلقًا من الغالبية العظمى من الشعب السوري، فهو يعتمد استثارة الغرائز ويبتعد عن المحاكمة العقلية الهادفة إلى تحقيق المصلحة العليا للشعب. وهو محاولة قذرة لزجّ الحراك الشعبي التغييري الشريف في حرب جديدة بين محاور مفترضة تشكّل إيران أحد طرفيها وتركيا والسعودية الطرف الآخر. والخطاب الطائفي هو المحرّك الأساسي لهذه الحرب الجديدة، بعد أن كانت الشيوعية والرأسمالية طرفا هذه الحرب في السابق.

إننا في الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي، عندما تصدّرنا مع المعارضة الوطنية الشريفة في الداخل السوري للعملية الإصلاحية الجذرية وطالبنا بالتغيير الجذري في بنية النظام من خلال تعديل مواد الدستور السوري وإطلاق الحريات العامة وإصدار قانون أحزاب وقانون إعلام عصري، كان الكثير من المتصدّرين للإعلام اليوم باسم المعارضة يقف متزلّفًا، متوسّلاً ومتسوّلاً على أبواب النظام. أما نحن فما زلنا على موقفنا ولم نتزحزح عنه قيد أنملة، ومن أراد أن يعرف أكثر فليراجع بياناتنا السابقة وليطلع على مواقفنا أثناء الأزمة الحالية. ما زلنا وسنبقى في الحزب عند مواقفنا المتجذّرة في صميم الشعب وقواعده وهي ليست مجرّد مواقف إعلامية فارغة.

أيها الشعب العظي!
يا أبناء سورية الأبية.. انتبهوا وتنبّهوا لما يُحاك لوحدتكم، واعلموا أن الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي – وانطلاقًا من مبادئه الأساسية المعنيّة بحياة الشعب أجمع، ومن مبادئه الإصلاحية المعنية بالتخلّص من كلّ الأمراض الاجتماعية التي تهدّد وحدة مجتمعنا ومصالحه – يقف اليوم في قلب حركة الشعب من أجل التغيير نحو الأفضل ومن أجل حياة أرقى وضدّ كلّ من يحاول بثّ الفرقة والتقسيم، وهو إن أعلن سابقًا تأييده لحركة الشعب فإنه يؤكِّد على نبذه للعنف وللطروحات الطائفية واستخدام الدين والخطاب الديني في الشأن السياسي.
طوبى لشهداء الشعب السوري أينما تضرّجت دماءهم على أرض سوريا الواحدة الموحدة. ولتحي سوريا وليحي سعاده.

دمشق في 2011/6/18
المفوَّض المركزي للحزب في الشام
الرفيق محمد زهوة

http://www.alqawmi.info/alpha/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1348:-q-&catid=71:2009-01-28-22-44-56

Norman

Algeria knows very well what extremist islamists are capable to do if they are denied political power:

“The Algerian Civil War was an armed conflict between the Algerian government and various Islamist rebel groups which began in 1991. It is estimated to have cost between 150,000 and 200,000 lives, in a population of about 25,010,000 in 1990 and 31,193,917 in 2000.[4]”
More than 70 journalists were assassinated, either by security forces or by Islamists.[5] The conflict effectively ended with a government victory, following the surrender of the Islamic Salvation Army and the 2002 defeat of the Armed Islamic Group. However, low-level fighting still continues in some areas.

WSS,
I agree with you, condemning violence and the message of killing and hatred should and must be condemned regardless of who is saying it.
I join you in condemning any comment that hold such message in it, we all are capable of arguing and debating without the need to attack each other and wish each others ills.

Syrian Knight,
Could you PLEASE refrain from wishing ill and calling for killing toward anybody, PLEASE, we are having all this killing and blood in Syria because of hatred, we must stop this cycle of violence and I have big faith in your good will but you need to clear your comments from such language toward anybody regardless how much we disagree with her, him or them. PLEASE! we are all in this conflict together we must work together as one to save our Syria.

WSS

“Show some integrity”

that is the point.

Show your own integrity and dont call us “Assad-friendly folks” whenever arguments you dont agree with are issued. YOU are the hate monger with your accomplices not me.

Israel the first world weapon seller per capita. Where is your integrity ?

Your beloved so-called democarcies spreading death for their own interests and ramsacknig entire nations. Where is your integrity ?

You are always mocking and grinning cynically nehind your screen and polluting this blog with your pointless spam. Is this your integrity ? You are just a coward and a racist.

most of the assad supporters here r kinda violent…not really different from the murderer himself

Norman,
a great chance to learn: the French translation of the letter of a Syrian priest that you have nicely posted (thanks)
http://www.senpremiereligne.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6732:lettre-ouverte-dun-pretre-arabe-de-syrie-a-monsieur-alain-juppe-ministre-des-affaires-etrangeres-de-la-france&catid=4:actualites&Itemid=143

William
For your information, I am anti-militarist and anti-racist, and I regard as totally backwards the people here who curse some commentators as being “black” or “converts”, etc.
But I have no time to spend writing them letters.
You have obviously not been reading all the posts here, otherwise:
1) you would have answered me 2 weeks ago,
2) you would have read the post by Shami copying some stupid hatred speech from the internet accusing the Alawis to have supported the Crusaders (what kind of political dialogue do you expect if people bring the Middle Ages massacres in the story?) while THERE WAS NO SUCH SUPPORT OF THE ALAWIS, quite the opposite, and i gave some references to academic books showing this,
3) if you had read my posts everyday i wouldn’t be such a mystery to you, but I agree you have other things to do.

This is a global conversation, and we can keep anonymity if we want to. You condemn racist posts and I wish the so-called freedom of expression valued in the US was not solely used to preach hatred and was applied to religious authorities, from the US to Saudi Arabia and Israel, to start with.

111. some guy said: most of the assad supporters here r kinda violent…not really different from the murderer himself

From some IDF freak..?!? Please stop.

Israeli undercover agents boast of killing Palestinians on TV
Ma’an news June 19, 2011

JERUSALEM (Ma’an) — Undercover Israeli intelligence officers appeared on national television Saturday to talk about assassinating Palestinians in a program broadcast on Israel’s Channel 10.

Oren Beaton presented a photo album of Palestinians he killed during his time as a commander of an undercover Israeli unit operating in the northern West Bank city of Nablus.

Beaton explained that he kept photos of his victims.

“This is a photo of a Palestinian young man called Basim Subeih who I killed. This is another young man. I shredded his body, and the photo shows the remnants of his body,” he said.

The TV program also featured an undercover agent referred to as “D”, who openly admitted killing “wanted Palestinians.”

He complained of suffering from post traumatic stress disorder and said that the state had rejected his demands for compensation.

The Channel 10 presenter appealed to the Israeli government to meet the agent’s demands.

“Those are the Shin Bet agents we only hear about and never see, and thanks to them we live safely,” she said.

The report was filmed in the Palestinian territories, and showed agents wandering around the streets of Ar-Ram in occupied East Jerusalem with handguns under their shirts, illustrating that the agents were still operating in Palestinian cities.

The agents, who speak fluent Arabic, are shown surrounded by masked Palestinian collaborators secretly deployed to the area to protect them.

The program provided previously unconfirmed details about the operational methods of undercover agents.

The report explained that officers conducted surveillance before an assassination, investigating the target’s friends and classmates.

Agents would even ask about the target’s favorite meals and habits at home, the report said.

In this way, agents would put together an image of the target’s behavior and routine.

Agent “D” said officers would then “seize the target and wait until the commander arrives to confirm his identity. Then we shoot him.”

This confirms previous accounts from Palestinians who have said they witnessed Israeli agents shooting Palestinians at point-blank range.