“Did Ali Mamlouk, Assad’s Spy Chief, Try to Carry out a Coup?” by Joshua Landis
Posted by Joshua on Monday, May 11th, 2015
[Addendum: 3 hours after posting: A trusted source says that Mamlouk has been working as normal this past week.]
I have been asked about what I think of the latest Telegraph news story that claims that Ali Mamlouk, the head of intelligence in Damascus, has been arrested for trying to carry out a coup and talking to the opposition because he has qualms about Iranians calling the shots in Damascus.
It doesn’t make sense to me. What does Mamlouk have to gain by talking with “the opposition”?
1. His throat will be cut as soon as opposition members get their hands on it. His only hope is the Iranians; It has been since the beginning.
2. There is no “opposition” for him to productively talk to. Who could he be talking to from the opposition? Nusra? Jaysh al-Islam, Ahrar? None of them would accept Mamlouk in any other condition but dead. Why would he talk to the Syria Opposition Coalition? They cannot deliver anything. They certainly cannot stop the fighting or save his life or that of the regime. It doesn’t make sense.
3. The regime lost Jisr ash-Shaghour. This was a big loss. It is of immense strategic value – much more so than Idlib, which was surrounded by a sea of opposition controlled territory. Jisr guards the Ghab valley, the back door to Hama; it also stands at the entrance to Latakia, which is some 45 miles away. It is right along the Turkish border and cuts the main road from Latakia to Aleppo. The regime is making a big push to retrieve the city. We will see what sort of success the Syria Army will have in this effort. The rebels are determined to keep it. Only a day ago, they blew up a large hunk of the main hospital, where many regime soldiers remain surrounded inside the city.
4. The narrative about the top Sunnis in the regime getting cold feet about working with Persians seems too neat and too manufactured. Of course, if the wheels are falling off the regime, people will try to find a way out, but it is much more likely that they will simply flee, rather than try to pull off a coup and then negotiate a deal for the regime. It would be like the first mate of a sinking ship trying to negotiate with the sea. If the regime splinters, there will be no saving it. This rumor follows the Ghazaleh affair in March, at which time, the opposition insisted that Mamlouk (the other top Sunni in the regime) would be next to die mysteriously, be arrested, or come to a sudden end. There are many rumors. Last week, everyone was saying that Mamlouk was in a hospital; now this.
5. I cannot believe that Mamlouk would think of Rifaat al-Assad as a possible successor to Bashar. Rifaat expiry date passed long ago. He has no following. It all seems too far fetched.
6. The regime still has punch left in it, and the rebels are far from Damascus. Of course, if the Saudis and Turks are willing to send a lot more money and weapons, the rebels have numbers on their side. Their best strategy is the war of attrition. But the regime continues to maintain the upper-hand today. It has an air force and more armor. Iran and Russia have made no indication that they are giving up the fight or willing to throw Assad overboard. Losing Assad and his regime would be a tremendous blow to both. They can also play the long game. Saudi Arabia with its new king and thirty year-old defense minister is not a combination one would want to bet on for the long run. The war in Yemen may be popular in Saudi Arabia today, but it will be disastrous for the new King in the long run. His opponents, who have been pushed from power, will come out of the woodwork when Saudis sour on it. We are far from an end-game.
For these reasons, I am skeptical of the notion that Assad regime principals, such as Ali Mamlouk, believe that they have better options than sticking with Assad, the Iranians, and the hand they have been dealt. I am sure none of them particularly like the hand they have, but reshuffling the deck now, would likely bring their swift and certain end.
Comments (144)
Bashar E. said:
It’s naive to think that the regime is falling apart, it has taken major losses for sure in Idleb and Jiser-Alshugur and Dara’a in the South, and I do suspect Aleppo will be next, but it still has a firm grip on Damascus, Homs, and the Mediterranean coast region. It’ll take a lot more than losing a few areas to bring down this regime. The battle for the Qalamoun area will be bloody and it’s outcome will determine the next direction events will take. I totally agree with Joshua, both sides have shown commitment to their clients and both sides show no indication of backing off. This War will last for a few more years, I see no exit in the near future, unless all the parties involved on the local and regional level are willing to sit down around the table and compromise. The only problem with this negotiating avenue is that the regime still does not believe in it. There is no International will or desire to be involved or end this anytime soon.
May 11th, 2015, 10:40 am
Mina said:
Ref Saudis,
they are on the same page as the Israelis when it come to the US negociating with Iran
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/129973/World/Region/Along-with-Saudi-king,-most-Gulf-rulers-to-skip-US.aspx
May 11th, 2015, 12:16 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Mina,
Yes even we the christians are in the same side that Israel and Saudi Arabia, we do not want Iran to conquest our land and turn it to a SHITSTAN
May 11th, 2015, 12:25 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Face it Mina, sometimes the Israelis are right!
They were right about Saddam, right about Gaddafi, right about Assad and right about the ragamuffins in Iran.
The Hard Work of the Resistance Pros™ continues…
May 11th, 2015, 1:27 pm
ALAN said:
shame on you Morocco, for your cheep-paid participation in war on Yemen
https://youtu.be/p8xt06yG91Q
May 11th, 2015, 3:03 pm
Jan Fearing said:
Sandro Loewe – The Christians in Syria support Assad AGAINST the Saudi/Qatar/Turkey/Muslim Bro backed Islamist revolution in Syria. The Christian leaders have been crying out, groups coming to DC, on video, in conferences, in denomination media trying to get the west to end its murderous support for mythical ‘moderate rebels’ who from the beginning have screamed ‘death to Alawis and Christians to Lebanon (or the grave)’. Assad has no intention, obviously never had the intention of being anything like Iran. I have no idea where you are coming from on that statement. Even in 2012, Father Frans (later murdered of course in cold blood by ‘rebels’) said this: Report from Father van der Lugt on the Situation in Homs
We owe it to the citizens of Syria to be nuanced. Otherwise, their struggle is lost.
There are many people here that sincerely believe that we can go further with this [i.e. the current Syrian] government, that it is capable of implementing reforms (see the president’s latest speech) and that it is perhaps more democratic than possible replacements.
Most of the citizens of Syria do not support the opposition. Even a country like Qatar has stated this following an opinion survey. Therefore, you also cannot say that this is a popular uprising. The majority of people are not part of the rebellion and certainly not part of the armed rebellion. What is occurring is, above all, a struggle between the army and armed Sunni groups that aim to overturn the Alawite regime and take power.
From the start the protest movements were not purely peaceful. From the start I saw armed demonstrators marching along in the protests, who began to shoot at the police first. Very often the violence of the security forces has been a reaction to the brutal violence of the armed rebels.
It is not sure that the government is playing off the two groups (Sunnis and Alawites) against one another. In Homs, it is precisely the opposite. The army is keeping the two groups from getting involved in a bloody conflict. If the army leaves, then we will have a civil war here in Homs.
Bashar al-Assad has never required the support of Christian leaders. Most support him because they are convinced that they would be worse off with another solution.
Father Frans van der Lugt
Homs, 13 January 2012
May 11th, 2015, 3:14 pm
BJ said:
SANDRO LOEWE. What the hell are you talking about. So you think that Saudi Arabia will turn your land into Disney Land? And what makes you think that you can speak on behalf of Christians? Have you seen what happened to Christians in Iraq and Syria on the hand of Jihadest supported and funded by the Saudis and Israelis?
May 11th, 2015, 4:09 pm
Jan Fearing said:
Here is a picture from Homs yesterday at the one year anniversary of the return of the people to the city after the Syrian army regained it from FSA/Nusra ‘rebel’/terrorists. The people of Syria support their president – 4 years and still more people than ever loyal to the government (with varying degrees of affection and hatred); the majority of the army still Sunni; the majority of the government still Sunni; the Christians supporting the government. Time for this sham ‘freedom and democracy’ movement financed, armed, and recruited for by the WORST takfiri/terrorist spreading regimes in the region – Saudi Arabia and Qatar to be over. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1403613103296620&set=pcb.1403615613296369&type=1&theater
May 11th, 2015, 4:16 pm
jamal said:
Ali Mamlouk carrying out a coup, are you kidding me?!! Only the ignorant will entertain ideas and thoughts (maybe reams) like that. The structure of the regime (army and security) especially the top rank of it was built and designed meticulously by Alassad the father with 0% of success to scenarios like as such.
My father tells me how Alassad the father used to orchestrate scenarios and some virtual coups to see which of the top ranks will report them or turn a blind eye. Back in the days, in one incident one person I know received a call on a secure line offering him a lot in return for an act. He said yes and agreed to a meeting point but instead he dashed to the presidential palace to find the Alassad the father and the person who called him smoking and waiting for him with a big smile on their faces. Such loyalty blood tests are quite frequent and you just can’t ignore any of them.
May 11th, 2015, 4:35 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
JAN and BJ
Padre Dil Oglio positioned against the criminal dictatorship and shared positions with the rebels of Homs.
He finally was picked up by Assad pirates and killed by ¨Pirates¨ who at the end are mostly directed by Assad members of moukhabaraat in Raqqa, Hasake and Deir.
Me as a Christian, like Del Oglio, do not want my land to be turned to a SECURITY STATE CALLED SHIT E STAN
I know perfectly what I am talking about. Assad or Chaos, and Assad created the chaos to be a necessary piece in the chess board.
Thank you
May 11th, 2015, 5:06 pm
SANDRO LOEWE said:
In view of how arab dictators have massacred their populations we can just agree that what Israel did is not worse than what Turkey did with armenians, or Gadaffi, Assad or Saddam supporters did or still do to their subdued citizens. In a manner the last (and the treatment given by arabs criminal dictators did with the jewish quarters of Erbil, Cairo or Damascus) could justify the position of jews in Israel.
Come thumbs down, this is the best signal that in a Middle East full of fools, criminals, empty heads and stupids one may be near to the truth and balanced position.
May 11th, 2015, 5:29 pm
jamal said:
Christians and all other minorities are loyal to the regime. Such noisy voices in Germany, America or Israel don’t represent the Christians in Syria.
May 11th, 2015, 6:09 pm
Tara said:
So let us call things by their names: Bashar al Assad sold Syria to the Persians. His grandfather tried to sell it to the French colonization and his great great grat grandfather probably tried to sell it to the crusaders.
A punch of traitors! Nothing less nothing more.
May 11th, 2015, 7:04 pm
Inad Hamadany said:
On the first page of Wall Street Journal, New York Times and half page of Washington Post (Saudis Skip U.S. Gulf Security Conference, A Blow To Iran Deal) , The Three Stooges “U.S. , Israel & Iran” Show in the Middle East is over , forget Turkey they are just a compares from day one , The dynamic in Syria in the last two months , all rebels are fighting the Syrian regime, Iran and Hezbollah, not ISIS or each other and they are gaining ground without any help , another major airport and military base “Deir Azzor” is crumbling under ISIS attack
May 11th, 2015, 7:43 pm
mjabali said:
Tara:
what are you doing in the land of the Crusaders..why don’t you move to Saudi Arabia or Qatar،يتسائل البعض
The meaning of your post : you are a traitor to land that is giving you freedom and work. السعودية بلد الحرية تننظرك
If it wasn’t for the French ( and other Crusader countries) you would have never had the chance to learn how to read and write and you would have ended up like Fattum Hees Bees فطوم حيص بيص on your best day.
شهادة محو الأمية التي مع الحيص بيص للفرنسيون فضل بها ..ناكرون للجميل
By the way: When the Crusaders were in Syria your honorable family was still in the land of the Turks, somewhere in Asia…so why do you care what al-Assad did by that time?
If your claims are true, and I doubt that of course, I wish the Assad’s plans had worked with the European Crusaders, why the hell not? To be friends with the Europeans during that time, and then during the industrial revolution and then modernity, why the hell not……? You are insane Tara..you want to live in al-Khilafa al-Islamiyah so why don’t you move to Qatar?
Tara’s family, most likely, came at least 400 years after that Crusaders period, so why to shame al-Assad for a partnership with the Crusaders? She was not there, her grandparents were not there, so why she cares about a deal with the Europeans…?
Do you think that a pact with Ibn Taymiyah is better?
IBN TAYMIYAH is the one who taught all Sunnis to use the phrase: “You tried to sell it to the crusaders…”
May 11th, 2015, 8:11 pm
mjabali said:
Sandrow Low:
Do not speak in the name of the Christians…I liked it a lot when some of them came and scolded you… when are you going to learn that you represent only yourself?
You insult people right and left, فلتان, you need to learn how to talk to people.
The usage of street words in your responses is concurrent. You repeat street words over and over. If you can not talk to people who are over 15 years old, I suggest another board.
By the way: who put you policing what I say? Last I checked, I am free and speak about people I care about. If you do not like that, too bad amigo. دير بالك من المشروب المضروب
May 11th, 2015, 8:25 pm
Tara said:
The Alawi IBN TAYMIAH,
Please do not ever stop posting. Your posts are the highlights of this entire site and are quite entertaining. Keep them coming.
Also tell me more about my family from the mother or father side . Where were they 400 years ago? What did they do for living ? When did they come to Syria? Where they poor or rich? Were they educated or came from behind cows and cattles? Were they religious ? What religion if so? Please say more.
May 11th, 2015, 9:08 pm
Ghufran said:
I did not think that Joshua would pick a post about an alleged coup by Mamlouk seruiusly but I guess the topic was too sexy to be ignored. At any rate, what we have been hearing since July 2012 reflects the fact that the Syrian state has been weaken to the point that many people today do not believe that a rebirth of the state with its pre 2011 borders is possible. The story is also another page in the chapter of psych warfare that GCC, Lebanese and western press has been waging since 2011 because the fall of the regime has become an obsession for anti regime and anti Iran people and governments ( and journalists too).
The truth is there is no chance of an independent government to emerge, the country today is too sick and too poor to make decisions that do not necessarily please big regional and international players from both sides. It is either a war to the bitter end or an agreement that gives major actors a piece of the Syrian pie but produces a dysfunctional lebanese type government. The third option, partition, is not supported by many but it is still a possibility. This is one big reason why many Syrians did not want to see violence, by both the regime and the rebels, used as a tool to introduce change.
May 11th, 2015, 9:20 pm
BJ said:
SANDRO LOEWE
Obviously you do not know what you are talking about. The Padre was kidnaped and executed by ISIL in Raqqa eastern Syria. So please check your facts before you answer and claim that you know what are you talking about.
http://www.firstpost.com/world/al-qaeda-group-kidnaps-italian-priest-in-syria-activists-995677.html
May 11th, 2015, 10:27 pm
ALAN said:
Hey Everybody! Saudi Arabia & Turkey Just Made Us Another Sh*t Sandwich in the Middle East!
http://chinamatters.blogspot.com/2015/05/hey-everybody-saudi-arabia-turkey-just.html
Josh Landis saw the KSA/Turkey alliance coming?
Do the US creates enemies and feigns innocence?
May 12th, 2015, 1:31 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
If the IRAN SHITSTAN and the dictatorship of ASSAD think they will use christians to keep themselves in power, they are wrong. Christians will not fight for them and most of the christians already fled the country. All christians in Damascus are not with the regime but with the status quo whatwever it is because it is the only way for not losing what they owe as it happens with any non syrian living in central Damascus.
May 12th, 2015, 2:33 am
ALAN said:
The USA is stepping up the pressure on Saudi Arabia.
The US warn Saudi Arabia that they are exposed to ‘sanctions’ in view of their support of terrorists and that the USA will not continue to remain blind about that.
The recent Saudi-Turkey ‘pact’ that allowed Islamist terrorists to invade North East of Syria has not played well with the USA.
Obama will not offer more benefits to the GCC but offer a tough bargain. Saudi Arabia will drop its support for Islamist terrorist in Syria and allow the UN to proceed with a peace plan. In exchange the USA will push Iran to allow a face saving exit of Saudi Arabia from Yemen’s quagmire.
The king of Saudi Arabia decided not to go to Camp David, Because he will be under the humiliation.
http://rt.com/news/257473-kerry-russia-lavrov-ukraine/
May 12th, 2015, 3:55 am
ALAN said:
Mr. Landis
You need to stop dealing with the Syrian affairs as an advocate of war. You need to indulge with a pragmatic approach to achieve a breakthrough in Syria.
May 12th, 2015, 4:16 am
Jamal said:
Tara
You’re not even a Syrian to talk about Syria or claiming having Syrian parents. You’re a paid troller working for some low class agency or Gulf Sh!t countries, maybe even Saed Alhariri but he does not have money to pay.
If you’re working in the Gulf sh!t countries then I’m sure the bedouins are keeping you entertained whether you’re a boy or girl.
May 12th, 2015, 4:50 am
Jamal said:
Christians don’t need the Sunnah war lords to speak for them. They’re part of this land even before that called Ibn TAYMIAH was sucking on his toes.
It’s disgusting to see the Sunnah following the Gulf bedouins who’re still wiping their bottom with stones, that’s if they even do it. Yet you find people claiming being Syrians glorifying and worshiping those bedouins day and night. I though Ibn T taught you to worship one God not people who don’t shower and allow women driving.
May 12th, 2015, 5:01 am
Mina said:
Qatar’s dirty hands exposed
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/al-jazeera-plays-a-dangerous-game-in-egypt-10240116.html
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/129977/Egypt/Politics-/AlJazeera%E2%80%99s-Mohamed-Fahmy-files–ml-case-against-e.aspx
They should be sued for inciting the Syrian civil war just as the broadcasters of Radio Mille Collines in Rwanda were punished.
May 12th, 2015, 5:10 am
mjabali said:
Tara:
Your grandfather is a Turk as we all know so do not hide that. Be proud of your past.
Do not try to fool us and pretend that you are from Mecca and from Quraysh to be exact.
– Ibn Taymiyah is a Sunni like you.
You repeat his words like the claim that the Alawites had cooperated with the Crusades.
Ibn Taymiyah said that, so do not clown around and try to dance about Ibn Taymiyah.
Ibn Taymiyah’s words are kept by the Sunni religious establishment, to which your family belongs to up to this day serving under Bashar al-Assad. Do the members of your family hold high positions under Bashar’s Sunni clown posse clergy?
-The frequency you use the word traitor is an indication of a troubled upbringing. Too much Ibn Taymiyah milk daily.
– You labeled the Assad as a traitor because he wanted to stay under the French. To me he is a failure because he did not achieve that and kept the FRENCH. With all of the bad things the French had done in Syria, they have done very good steps to mesh the Syrian Society together. Remember without the FRENCH you would have been like Fatoum Hees Bees, could not read and write.
– The question you always never want to answer: “if it is a treason dealing with the French and the Crusaders, what are you doing in America, and why don’t you go and live in the paradise of Qatar or Saudi Arabia or Kuwait?
By the way: if you consider yourself Syrian, it was by accident because the Ottomans could have put your grandfather in Yemen for example…remember that before you speak about cooperating with the Crusades…
I see you raising the black flag of the Islamic State….you speak like the Islamic State…
Your post about the Assad and his treason could have been said by a guy in the Islamic State beheading an Alawite…..
You are giving the Sunnis a bad rep, keep on the good work.
May 12th, 2015, 8:12 am
mjabali said:
Mina:
al-Jazeera aired a show the other day in which the host Faysal al-Qasim and his guest Maher Sharaf al-Din called to kill all the Alawites including their children.
May 12th, 2015, 8:15 am
Syrian said:
Hey Mjabali, why did not tell Mina that both Fiysal and Sharaf Aldin are not Sunnis and they are both from the Durse minority,
And please explain why they even went beyond Ibn T in thier calling to eridacatr your sect?
May 12th, 2015, 9:48 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
Iran dirty hands exposed in Syria and Lebanon since 1980 until today. Also exposed in Iraq, Yemen and Bahrain.
Lebanese chiites will lose their works in UAE, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Egypt thanks to Iran.
The problem of the chiites is that 99 % of them are potential jihadists martyrs raised to become Shia Islam fighters. Exactly as those sunna who adopt jihadism as a way of life.
The difference is that Shiites have only one divine authority on earth which makes them potentially much more dangerous that Bin Laden and all that garbage.
May 12th, 2015, 8:17 am
Rose Damas said:
But don’t intelligence people and spies ALWAYS talk to each other? So why is it surprising to hear that Ali Mamlouk is “talking” to the Turkish intelligence people or others?
May 12th, 2015, 8:53 am
ALAN said:
Mina@25
An exceptional Trinity !
http://thesaker.is/exceptionalists-vs-integrationalists-the-eurasian-wide-struggle/
May 12th, 2015, 9:26 am
Syrian said:
Hey Mjabali, why did not tell Mina that both Fiysal and Sharaf Aldin are not Sunnis and they are both from the Druze minority,
And please explain why they even went beyond Ibn T in thier calling to eliminate your sect as you claim.
May 12th, 2015, 9:50 am
Tara said:
Syrian,
Hahaha. Nice to read you again. Those are details that The Alawi Ibn T does not care about. It does not help his case. I think the lack of this minute detail has something to do with integrity or lack of it.
MJabali- keep entertains me. Please vary the insults a little more to reflect your diverse backgrounds. Hehe 🙂
May 12th, 2015, 11:29 am
habib said:
Haven’t posted here for a long time, but I see that nothing has changed.
Opposition people complain about selling Syria to Iran, when they are themselves busy selling the country to Saudia and Turkey.
They say Alawites deserve to be massacred because they support the regime, while ignoring the fact that Yazidis and Christians in Iraq have been massacred even though they are completely peaceful.
They continue claiming Assad killd 200.000 people, even though half of those killed are pro government fighters.
It goes on.
May 12th, 2015, 11:49 am
SANDRO LOEWE said:
HABIB
Iranian governors in Baghdad (Alawi) and Damascus (Assad) DID NOTHING to avoid the massacre of Yazidis and Christians.
Assad, HA and Iran are interested in letting christians, yazidis and druzes (not yet) get killed. They will get double proffit from these massacres:
* IS will be seen as a danger for minorities
* Iran allies will be seen as the only protector
* World will criminalize any anti Assad rebels
Assad did prepare the ground for these massacres and did nothing to avoid them. And please DO NOT FORGET THAT ASSAD IS THE DICTATOR OF SYRIA and he is RESPONSIBLE OF KEEPING ORDER AND SECURITY for all syrians. If he is so stupid that cannot protect them he should fire one bullet in his forehead.
May 12th, 2015, 12:21 pm
Mina said:
Hi Mjabali
I know, i’ve been reading the thread here. I just wanted to add the video posted by As’ad Abu Khalil for the sake of providing all the evidence after the usual trolls denied it
May 12th, 2015, 1:32 pm
ALAN said:
Racism NewZ
AP: where is your Elizabeth Tsurkov twards what is going on the ground in Zionist state?
Israelis to African Jews: “Go back to Jungle in Africa!!!”
https://shareverythingworld.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/10947272_10152958180653673_8337875676887945275_n.jpg
Can you imagine the US corporate media reaction if anyone other than an Israeli were holding that sign?
May 12th, 2015, 1:34 pm
Syrian said:
Tara.
Nice to read you too again..
It is intetaining to read Mjabali, as we say back home, بيسلي اكتر من نص كيلو بزر
🙂
May 12th, 2015, 2:07 pm
ALAN said:
Israel’s Fascist Democracy
http://journal-neo.org/2015/05/12/israel-s-fascist-democracy/
May 12th, 2015, 2:14 pm
habib said:
33. SANDRO LOEWE said:
So the fact that Kurdish Peshmerga could not help their Yazidi brethren even with US air support also means they let them die on purpose?
Who do you think you’re kidding?
May 12th, 2015, 4:03 pm
jamal said:
Sunnah will not rule Syria. Keep dreaming Ibn T’s followers, no matter how many foreign terrorists you hire, no matter how much money the Bedouins invest in destructing Syria. Syria will only be ruled by one of the minorities and the Sunnah will follow blindly as long they can do business and sniff the money even with the devil itself.
May 12th, 2015, 4:21 pm
jamal said:
Do you feel more like Turk or Arab? Do you feel belonging to Turkey or Syria?
Alassad the father did a big mistake by trusting this Sunnah rich class.
May 12th, 2015, 4:25 pm
Juergen said:
Just received a call from a family who got out of Syria. They told me that at the border control to Lebanon the regime thugs are confiscating amounts more than 15.000 SYP.
May 12th, 2015, 4:43 pm
jamal said:
By saying (thugs) are you referring to the Sunnah terrorists of Nusra and ISIL or the looters of Zahran Alloush?
May 12th, 2015, 5:26 pm
Ghufran said:
If previous similar incidents can serve as a clue to how Nusra terror group is doing now we can suspect that the group is not doing very well based on tweets by top Saudi Nusra terrorist al-muhaysni who was posting notes about lack of ammunition and donations for Idleb and Hama battle fields, his tweets also included accusations of treason for Muslims who did not come to help almujahideen in bilad Al-Sham !!
May 12th, 2015, 7:07 pm
mjabali said:
Look at this guy who writes under the name “Syrian” …such an amateur…
He wants me to believe that Faysal al-Qasim, a host in al-Jazeera can say anything on his show without the approval of the Emirate of Qatar.
Faysal a-Qasim lives under the Qatari government the same way the hosts in Damascus under al-Assad. The only difference is that Faysal al-Qasim gets paid well. The Qataris has lots of money to spend destabilizing other countries.
Go play another one: Faysal al-Qasim, and the guests he picks, like the genocidal clown Maher Sharaf al-Din, can not utter one word without the blessing of the rulers of Qatar.
The call to kill the Alawites and their children did not come from Faysal al-Qasim: He is the genocidal clown who had been saying this every episode of his show.
I watch his show every week. He is a mouthpiece of Sunni wahabi Qatar and no one else, he get paid well.
The Qatari government, as well as the Saudi government pays a lot to the press within the Arab world and the West. Their money is good for the almost bankrupt stations and news outlet in the West.
“Syrian”
You wrote in Arabic that I entertain you more than a sack of sunflowers seeds, are you a bird?
You seem to me like a parrot, parroting what Tara says.
For a human to have a sack of sunflower seeds as the top of his entertainment needs makes me think am I in bird land where this guy “Syrian” and Tara are sitting eating sunflowers seeds and happy…
Go eat sunflower seeds with Tara please.
ياببغاء
May 12th, 2015, 9:47 pm
mjabali said:
Some one tell Sandrow Low what is the real name of the prime minister of Iraq.
The word Alawi is causing him to see doubles…
May 12th, 2015, 10:01 pm
Tara said:
Syrian,
ياما سهرنا ليالي ببلودان نفصص بزر وناكل جانرك. بكرة بترجع هالأيام بدون الخونة
May 12th, 2015, 10:24 pm
Mike said:
This seems to reflect Landis’ wish than true analysis of what is going on in Syria. Landis is fraud and has been helping the killer Assad regime shape its image in the USA. He has been lobbying the US institutions on behalf of Assad and Iran for the last decade,
May 12th, 2015, 10:34 pm
jamal said:
Now you’re claiming you know about Bloudan. I know Bloudan very well, tell me the address of your property to verify your claim.
No matter how hard you’re trying, you are not Syrian and your follower the teenager called “Syrian” is another cheap paid propaganda.
May 12th, 2015, 10:56 pm
mjabali said:
Tara:
شو هالمستوى ياتارا؟ قاعدة عم بتفصفصي بزر وتجتري شوية جانرلك من دون الخونة مع اراعي الغنم الأمي…بالله عليكي حفيانة ولا لابسة شحاطة؟
مجموعة من الطيور….تلتهم البزر..
من حسن حظ الخونة أنهم ليسوا معكم…فالخونة مع الصليبيون يأكلون الأكل الصليبي ويشربون المشروبات الصليبية….
الخونة مع فرنسا….
السؤال هنا ياحجة….متى ستغادري أمريكا وتذهبي للعيش في ظل الملك السعودي المحنك؟
May 13th, 2015, 1:12 am
mjabali said:
President Obama should slap some sense into the Saudi war mongers by banning American companies from selling them weapons….
He also should force them to start talking about the SHIA in Saudi Arabia who live with no rights…
He also should ask Saudi Arabia to get out of Bahrain and stop destroying Yemen …
Imagine if the Americans stop giving weapons to Saudi Arabia..the middle east will be a better place 100%
Saudi Arabis exported hundreds of Suicide bombers…what a country
President Obama should give these idiots a lesson in democracy and nothing else…
May 13th, 2015, 1:16 am
Poul said:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/12/uk-telegraph-accused-of-fabricating-syria-coup-story/
Perhaps quite relevant is the background of the Telegraphy’s journalist Ruth Sherlock.
Qoute
“From the Israeli Haaretz website:
Ruth Sherlock is a freelance journalist and an intern for Haaretz.com”
Her impartiality may suffer giving that background.
May 13th, 2015, 3:04 am
ALAN said:
50. POUL
Shocked!
http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/05/12/analysis-finds-50-percent-of-all-fox-news-statements-are-false/
May 13th, 2015, 4:37 am
Observer said:
My point is proven one more time by these postings of my dear friend MJABALI
There is no such thing as Syrian identity: there is an Alawi one a Sunni one a Christian one a Druze one etc…….
As for Obama not selling weapons to KSA, no problem, Putin would gladly oblige to replace Obama as well as France and Britain and South Korea and Pakistan and India and Japan.
As for teaching democracy, perhaps the idea is the democracy as conceived and practiced in Souria Alathad that our friend is thinking about where an active genocidal ethnic cleansing is the daily lot of the people.
Also, please reproduce the transcript whereby Faysal and Maher call for the killing of the entire Alawi community. I do not recall hearing that, but I may be wrong. Again, do not go off your horse as I ask this, I am just curious of where and when the two called for such a terrible act.
As for this blog again this is a dialogue des sourds.
One historical fact though: Crusaders practiced cannibalism in Syria in Maaret Noumaan not because of starvation but to terrorize the population, Amin Maalouf The Crusaders through Arab Eyes is the source.
Cheers
May 13th, 2015, 7:57 am
ALAN said:
52. OBSERVER said: /There is no such thing as Syrian identity: there is an Alawi one a Sunni one a Christian one a Druze one etc……./
Because of “Syria is geographically and politically in the middle of the Middle East, and given Syria’s weighty geo-political bearing,
it needs to resolve the fractures in its National Identity quickly, lest its sectarian issues.
May 13th, 2015, 8:51 am
mjabali said:
Observaar the French Chef:
The Syrian Identity is alive and it does not stop any one from standing up for their minority group, or majority group.
I never faulted you for standing up with the Sunnis. It is natural and it is your right.
These divisions will always exist.
The Alawites, and the other minorities of Syria had proven that they can live with anyone. The only thing that is missing a national pact that no one so far can do or come up with. al-Assad and his opponents failed to provide security to anyone in Syria.
As for Faysal al-Qasim and Maher Sharaf al-Din and their call to kill the Alawites including their children I am happy to tell you that a Syrian Sunni : Nabil Fayad had started a campaign to take this matter to international courts…Go sign the petition…they are two thousands people short as of yesterday to take this to the UN…
We are going to see them in court I hope. al-Jazeera, the people who run it and the few clowns that call to kill and promote genocide.
Keep trolling me on this issue please and I will keep you updated on Faysal al-Qasim and the other clown Maher Sharaf al-Din.
May 13th, 2015, 10:23 am
syrian said:
Mjabali,
I can not make up my mind what was more entertaining form your last post,you confusing Syrian watermelon seed with the American sack of bird feed.Or admitting that you watched every episode of Faysal Al Kasim program.
well, either way,I just wonder how many sacks of bird feed you consumed until you figured out the difference,
Also it seems that the new guy/girl is applying to be your side kick guy,lets see how that will play out,my advice though is that you are doing fine on your own.take it or leave it, up to you
May 13th, 2015, 10:41 am
Mjabali said:
Syrian
I have no side kicks…that guy you are talking about is not an Alawite although he is trying to make us believe he is one..
May 13th, 2015, 12:32 pm
ALAN said:
شاركت حكومة اقليم كردستان العام الماضي في مؤامرة إعادة تشكيل العراق وسورية وفقا لخطة رايت. كما شاركت في مختلف الاجتماعات في عمان إلى جانب أجهزة الاستخبارات الأردنية, وقادة داعش والجماعات المسلحة في سورية, فضلا عن نقشبندية العراق. وقد تم الاتفاق على أن تتولى كل من داعش وحكومة اقليم كردستان شن هجوم منسق, يفضي إلى الاستيلاء على جزء كبير من العراق.
وبينما كانت وسائل الاعلام العالمية تدين انتهاكات داعش في العراق, كان أكراد البرزاني يستولون على حقول نفط كركوك, ويتمددون في الأراضي العراقية بنسبة 40% .
كان يجري قمع أي اعتراض بمنتهى القسوة على التحالف القائم بين دولة اقليم كردستان وداعش, والذي أسفر عن اعتقال زعيم الطائفة اليزيدية حيدر شيشو في 7 نيسان-أبريل, رغم تمتعه بالجنسية المزدوجة الألمانية والعراقية, فقط لأنه أدان هذا التحالف.
ثمة حملة اعلامية كاذبة تقاد منذ عدة شهور, تنسب إلى البشمركة مأثرة حمل السلاح نيابة عن حزب العمال الكردستاني وكذلك حزب الاتحاد الديمقراطي ضد داعش, إبان المعارك في عين العرب, على سبيل المثال.
دول الغرب, بدءا من بريطانيا, فرنسا, ومعهما اسرائيل, كانت, ومازالت ترسل أسلحة إلى أربيل متجاوزة بغداد, في انتهاك صريح للسيادة العراقية.
هذه الأسلحة لاتستخدم في الوقت الحالي, لكنها تخزن تحسبا لهجوم محتمل في شمال سورية.
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تحاول الحكومة الاسرائيلية الجديدة توحيد الجهاديين في شمال سورية, وتنسيق تحركهم باتجاه دمشق حين يدخل أكراد الحزب الديمقراطي الكردي إلى سورية, من أجل ذبح أكراد حزب الاتحاد الديمقراطي.
المشروع الاسرائيلي هذا, سيناقش بلا أدنى شك (مع تأسيس حلف ناتو العربي بقيادة اسرائيل) أثناء انعقاد جلسة مجلس التعاون الخليجي, الذي دعا الرئيس أوباما إلى عقدها في كامب ديفيد بتاريخ 13 أيار-مايو الجاري.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article187581.html
May 13th, 2015, 1:33 pm
Observer said:
Again do not go off your horse, can you reproduce the transcript of the episode that talks about genocide of all Alawis? Again, do not go off your horse.
On a different note, I am not Sunni. If you cannot read it, have your dog read it to you as your dog knows more than many of us do.
There is no such thing as a Syrian identity or an Iraqi one for that matter or a Lebanese one for that matter or a Jordanian one or a Saudi one. Even Turkey has millions of Kurds and Iran has no more than 50 % Persian
Fruit salad it is though; when all is quiet and living under a progressive capitalist system, you can taste wonderful fruit salad in the middle east
May 13th, 2015, 2:16 pm
ALAN said:
It seems that some people here deliberating the harm to Syrian national identity and chattering unfeasible to reverse the concepts of things.
Remember here that the Zionist state since its inception and up to this day has not been able to undermine the Palestinian national identity!
The fruit salad will be crushed and turned into feed for pigs.
May 13th, 2015, 3:54 pm
jamal said:
Do you trolls get paid by post or shift?
The only security for minorities in Syria is to be ruled by one of them. As for the Sunnah you will keep doing your favorite job of trade and money saving, in addition to
Nobody can defeat the Syrian Army and its allies nobody, no creature, no God.
May 13th, 2015, 4:16 pm
Jasmine said:
This article meant to distract from the important events ,the next few weeks are so critical and are going to define the outcome of wars in Syria,Iraq and Yemen.
I think that Russia and Iran are showing an impressive self restraint towards the Saudi Aggression in Yemen and Syria equally.
This failed adventure by those half men is going to mark the beginning of their end,they are digging their own graves in Yemen.
At last USA start asking questions about arming Al-Nusrah by the Gulf,and probably just to save the water in its face after meeting the Russians,hypocrisy is not going to work for the long term ,once the arm deal with the Gulf is done,any political twist is acceptable and a lot of explanation is needed to justify their involvement in this dirty war.
Iran is pushing very hard the next 6 weeks and swallowing its pride to guarantee the end of sanction after signing the Nuclear deal.
Israel and the Gulf are watching with horror the rapprochement between USA and Iran and are trying to lessen the humiliation by spreading false news in the media,SA &Qatar are digging deeper in their pockets to pay for more mercenaries and ship them to Yemen and Syria.
Turkey is admitting at last its involvement in Idleb’s invasion and is trying to take a credit for its dirty work,may be it will be rewarded by a chunk of North Syria.
Meanwhile the Opportunistic Kurds are strengthening their position and becoming more bold with their demand of independence in the north of Iraq.
IMHO,the tipping point will be reached by the end of June.
May 13th, 2015, 4:36 pm
Ghufran said:
The disconnect between political opposition figures and rebels and the unmistakable alliance between rebels and terrorist groups will make a comprehensive political solution very difficult. Fighters on the ground from both sides are not waiting for politicians to decide how to end this war. Politicians can only translate military wins into political wins, the problem is that the regime and its fighting forces speak with one voice while every rebel leader with a gun acts like president !!
May 13th, 2015, 4:40 pm
Tara said:
Sidekick: it is called Sunnis in Syria not sunnah . I already suggested rules for banning people… And Mjabali :
You talked about اجترار! Interesting! is that how your mother eat? Shame that one hints to his mother as such.
May 13th, 2015, 6:45 pm
Sami said:
i watched the Faisal Qasem segment. Both guests can be easily taken out of contexts, which I believe was the intended purpose of the segment. Arabs love to yell and cross lines and fudge them along the way.
Besides the usual jibber jabber the segment brought up the important issue of the war is increasingly coming closer to the footsteps of the Alawite heartland. And with that you have the real fear of reprisals from the Sunnis whose towns have been reduced to rubble and families massacred and displaced. And this fear as horrible as it might be could’ve and should’ve been completely avoided had the so called state acted for the benefit of all Syrians and not for its own self preservation. Because of the reality we’re in this horrific scenario will become true to Syrias alawites just as it is to Syrias Sunnis.
It’s really sad, and I wish for this nightmare to stop. But our country is right now being driven by two drivers drunk on their zeal telling us everything is going to be alright while driving into a wall…
May 13th, 2015, 8:08 pm
Ghufran said:
Isis has made gains toddy in Homs province near Tadmur. Thawrajiyeh media is cheering the gains and lying by calling Isis terrorists ” Thuwwar”.
Out of 10 bullets fired by rebels today 9 are fired by terrorists from Nusra and Isis. The invention called Jaysh Alfat’h is a form of blsck comedy, most people know that it is a nickname for Nusra.
The sad reality is that many Syrians who said they rose up for freedom are supporting the terrorists.
May 13th, 2015, 8:11 pm
jamal said:
I thought the Sunnah clerics preach for good manners not rudeness and immorality. Bringing up the topic of his mother is a low blow and represents nothing but your upbringing and your filthy surrounding family environment.
You’re just doing a great damage to the picture you’re trying to portray of yourself (educated upper-class Sunnah chick), you’re the opposite.
Shame.
May 13th, 2015, 8:59 pm
Ghufran said:
Despite suffering a definite defeat in qalamon, nusra terrorists, and now isis, controls an area at Syria- Lebanon borders bigger than the state of Bahrain. The fact that Hizbullah supports the Syrian regime is now irrelevant because hizbullah’s enemies are terrorists not freedom seekers. I realize that the regime was and still is brutal but when main stream opposition figures openly call for collective punishment and genocide against alawites and Shia one has to resign to the old conclusion that this is not a war between good and evil, it is a war between bad and worse, those who support terrorists because they oppose the regime will end up with a situation where the people they claim to be defending will be victimized again, waiting for the GCC, Turkey and the West to come for the rescue was clearly a strategic disaster, and exonerating the rebels from the charge of participating in destroying Syria is not just dishonest it is also dangerous because it gives a green light for the war to continue. In Syria we will either live together, in one way or the other, in cold peace or die together in pieces. Enough is enough.
May 13th, 2015, 10:33 pm
jamal said:
(live together, in one way or the other, in cold peace or die together in pieces)
Nice one Dr.Ghassan.
I prefer to stay abroad rather sharing a space with those terrorists and their incubating environment of radical Sunnah.
May 14th, 2015, 12:25 am
Poul said:
https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/did-ali-mamlouk-assads-spy-chief-try-to-carry-out-a-coup/#comment-518076
Why shocked, Alan?
New York Times showed journalistic bias in favour of their own government in the run up to the attack on Iraq. Journalists can be bought or influenced like all other people hence the importance of knowing their background.
May 14th, 2015, 2:55 am
Badr said:
Did he or didn’t he?
Take the “OBSERVER’s” challenge. Read the transcript in Arabic.
May 14th, 2015, 3:19 am
Tara said:
I just wish and pray that ISIS does not destroy the beautiful ruins in Tadmour
May 14th, 2015, 9:15 am
mjabali said:
Faysal al-Qasim and Maher Sharaf al-Din called for the punishment of all of the Alawites with no exception, even their kids.
They repeated this claim through out the episode.
The theme of the WHOLE episode is how to punish the Alawites?
If Observaaar can not see this what can I do. There is no use of trying to proof a thing to him.
So when Faysal al-Qasim boils with anger, and insists to call his enemy the Alawi, and asks for the punishment of the Alawi, and prevents the idiots who called them on the Phone from talking because he did not name the Alawites by name….
I have MANY points to support my claim. What does Observar have? Denial? great, let him deny this as much as he could. good for him.
What does Observar think the theme of the episode was? French WINE?
OBservaar should do stand up comedy…
The TONE of the episode is how to drum up genocidal ideas against the Alawites.
I saw the episode and I speak the same language as all of the men who were in the Episode. The metaphors, tone, and theme in the episode say: Kill the Alawites. The genocidal Faysal al-Qasim and al-Jazeera are responsible for this episode.
So, if Observar want to believe this or not that is his own problem.
May 14th, 2015, 9:37 am
mjabali said:
Tara
Insulting my mother is not kosher. I won’t go and insult your mother, because I do not think like a teen ager. Your street ethics are giving this blog an example about your upbringing.
I made fun of you after you called millions of people traitors repeatedly.
You can not come up with any argument to save yourself, so you go and insult my mother.
I asked you many times: when are you going to live under the Islamic State?
May 14th, 2015, 9:48 am
Tara said:
Mjabali
It is very stupid to insult me using the same word and expect that I will not reciprocate .
Nevertheless I am not surprised . You are a product of this regime and you are not any better. This is exactly what your beloved regime has done to the Syrian people for 50 years and when we stuck back , the regime and its criminal followers lost their mind and killed 200,000 and counting .
I hope you learn your lesson this time yet I am not that hopeful . You guys just do not learn
May 14th, 2015, 12:39 pm
Observer said:
I listened to the episode more than once and did not hear any explicit call to kill all the community.
I note what MJABALI had written” The TONE of the episode is how to drum up genocidal ideas against the Alawites.” The whole episode has rattled the entire community for several reasons
1. It named things as they are
2. It identified the crux of the problem: sectarianism worthy of Ibn T in reverse and worse perhaps
3. It actually put the fate of the regime squarely with the fate of the community as there is complete association with the regime to the very core.
4. It also showed that the excuse that the opposition never tried to pull the community away from the regime is false and a non starter. The community never saw the others as partners only as slaves as Jamal has posted here.
Here is the nature of the regime clearly shown in this report from the Daily Star
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2015/May-14/297969-assad-knew-about-samaha-plot-video-indicates.ashx
As for the tone of the conversation I can say that the tone of Ibn T in reverse is quite encouraging for a peaceful coexistence and shared prosperity.
Fruit salad it is and a rotten one at this stage. Today the pilgrims burned the Sunni Waqf in Baghdad and please do not tell me that it is an AmericanoSioniste plot or I will stop eating fruit salad from this wretched ME.
I do think that the community and the regime are starting to act more and more like the same entity or please prove me wrong.
Repent the end is near
May 14th, 2015, 3:25 pm
jamal said:
What I could not understand this amount of hatred of Sunnah towards Alawites. How could you fake it for 40 years pretending being happy and satisfied? When I’m upset with my neigbhours I go and talk to him discussing concerns to reach middle ground understanding.
In the Sunnah’s case the reality they were collecting hatred for 40 years, If just they were not hypocrites and discussed their concerns at the time instead of clapping and marching the streets for the regime, maybe and I’m saying maybe you could avoided this apparent criminology inclination in your behavior.
May 14th, 2015, 3:57 pm
mjabali said:
Tara:
Your fabrications about me does not fly.
al-Assad was born and raised in Damascus like you and not like me.
You came out from heart of that regime: you talk like them, for example: When you use the word “traitors,” you are talking like Bashar al-Assad.
The question again to you: When you gonna leave America and go live under the umbrella of the Saudi Family, or the Islamic State, or Qatar?
May 14th, 2015, 4:52 pm
mjabali said:
Observaar the French Toast said:
“I listened to the episode more than once and did not hear any explicit call to kill all the community.”
Most likely Observaaare was watching something else… most likely he was watching how to make French Toast…
May 14th, 2015, 5:04 pm
Tara said:
MJabali,
It doesn’t matter where you were born. It matter what your culture is. Your multiple insults toward me is an example what your culture is.. And the second I reciprocate a word you used to insult me, you bent all out of shape..
I, as you very much, know do not get insulted by yours or any regime apologists ‘ barrage of vulgarity and do not insult people back. It is just not my thing. I chose to reciprocate this time to demonstrate the concept.
I am sure it is a lesson not learned.
May 14th, 2015, 7:42 pm
mjabali said:
Tara:
Please stop your hallucinations: cursing and insulting my mother is not a lesson. It is a presentation of your ethics.
So you want to tell me if I make fun of you, you are going to curse at my mother…what a lesson, what school taught you this? ترباية شوارع
Your upbringing is reflected in you cursing at people’e mothers if you could not answer them like an adult. How old are you 12?
So if you think that you gave me a lesson by cursing at my mother all I have to do is think how limited is your scope….
Go eat sunflowers seeds and herd some greens…
May 14th, 2015, 11:01 pm
Syrian said:
Mjabali,
I watched your YouTube clip.it is been edited so many times that saying it was out of contexts like Sami said is an understatement.Fiysal is famous for saying “that what THEY are saying not me” and actually it was his last words from your clip,it was missed by who ever edited that tape.
At any case two famous seculars from the Druze minority going further than the 1000 years old Ibn T fatwa as you are believing and by extension the Alawite sect is the real story.
About that wannabe sidekick.you are right he is not an Alawite. I could tell his hate of Sunnis is not as mature and old as yours. I mean to bring a 45 years old comedian character as your idea of modern day Sunni women is a prefection in hate he can only watch and learn. Though he is smart enough to lead you from behind and give you ideas.if I have to guess I’d say he is an Iranian maybe Lebanise.what do you think he is?
May 15th, 2015, 1:03 am
Hopeful said:
#76 Jamal
Have you ever read the “emperor has no clothes” story?
Yes, behind close doors, not only Sunnis, but the majority of Syrian population cursed the regime every day. To many, the regime symbolizes the tyranny of two groups: the Alawits and the Baathists.
But on the surface, they repeated every day: “with our souls and blood, we sacrifice ourselves to Assad”
The older generation lived in shame and lack of dignity because they were not free to speak their minds. The new generation wanted nothing of it, this was the spark of the revolution.
You can blame the regime, you can blame the old generation for giving up their dignity, or you can blame the new generation for rising up. No matter. If you want the problem solved, you have to remove the cause. You cannot solve the problem while keeping the one thing that symbolized the lack of dignity and freedom, and you cannot keep the one thing that divides the people of Syria.
Now, look at Israel. Why do Arabs hate Jews so much? The answer should help you answer your question as well.
May 15th, 2015, 2:52 am
Jamal said:
Of course I prefer to remove the cause of the problem. In my opinion there are two main reasons: economy and ideology.
The first reason was the lack of jobs and drought in the countryside areas, this has lead uneducated people to take up arms in return for few dollars to feed their families, or get paid $200 to corss the border to Turkey as a refugee. So if we control and economy, create more jobs, support the public sector, social seurity for elders, and provide subsidy to farmers I think it will solve the first cause.
The second cause is the Wahabi ideology of Sunnah, the problem that Alassad the son allowed Sunna to preach and openly recruit followers to some of their extremist groups, and of course those groups later took up arms and got paid by Saudis and Qataries. So If we tight up more and monitor the religion freedom especially in some Sunnah institutes then we can cut the head of the snake before even leaving its hole.
I still find it hard to believe that those millions of Sunnah marching the streets of Damascus were faking it.
May 15th, 2015, 4:11 am
Syrialover said:
In the previous thread MINA said (#11):
“Tara and Observed are paid trolls. Nothing new here. One can just read their posts of the years that just passed.”
People have been kicked off this forum for less than that.
You are not very smart, MINA. There are some very obvious real “paid trolls” on this forum. So how come you don’t pick and name them?
TARA and OBSERVER, in striking contrast, are authentic, independent individuals who have been posting here for years.
Are you?
May 15th, 2015, 7:01 am
Syrialover said:
SAMI #64 and HOPEFUL #82
Bullseye! As usual, both of you right on target in your remarks.
It’s always a mood and sanity boost to read your words.
May 15th, 2015, 7:11 am
Syrialover said:
Oh good. Someone mentioned Rifaat Assad, Hama mass murderer and mega-thief (as part of the plot rumor discussed by JOSHUA in the main post above).
He’s now stooped to feigning senile dementia to dodge the law.
The uncle of Syrian President Bashar Assad is under investigation in France for amassing a 90-million-euro fortune, including a stud farm and luxury apartments, despite being kicked out of Syria “with nothing” 30 years ago.
And that’s just what they are listing in France. There are plenty more unexplained assets in the UK, enjoyed by Rifaat’s sleazy political wannabe son Ribal.
Here’s what Rifaat is telling investigators:
– he “had nothing” when he left Syria, having always given his wages away to the poor
– all his wealth is “gifts” from friends and heads of State
– but did not keep a close eye on the details [of his wealth]
– “I only occupy myself with politics,” he said. “They bring me papers to sign… I don’t know how to pay, even in restaurants.”
Hilarious!!!! But disgusting. So typical of the pathological, stupid lying which is the core nature of the Assads.
(Source: AFP, http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/uncle-of-syrian-president-bashar-al-assad-in-french-probe-over-90-million-euro-fortune-758370)
May 15th, 2015, 7:38 am
Observer said:
Again, MJABALI has proven my point many times now. He is the very personification of Ibn T’s thought and ideology in reverse. The one big difference is that the hatred is 1400 years old.
Way before this so called TONE of demonization of the Alawis on AJ channel, we have read his posts demonizing the Sunnis and reminding us day in and day out that most of us are Ottomans imports to Syria therefore justifying any action to exclude the other.
This is a final and clear cut demonstration of the fact that the regime and the community are one.
As a matter of fact one of the members of the regime posted not too long ago:
1. All are together in support of the regime
2. Those that are not are eliminated and even their families celebrate their elimination for not being part of the community
3. The community will fight to the very end.
This is clearly another proof that the community does not consider itself as either Arab or Syrian or anything else but Alawi. I say good for them, go ahead and create your Alawistan. Be our guest, create one for God’s sake and get out of our hair.
May 15th, 2015, 7:46 am
Akbar Palace said:
76. jamal said:
What I could not understand this amount of hatred of Sunnah towards Alawites. How could you fake it for 40 years pretending being happy and satisfied? When I’m upset with my neigbhours I go and talk to him discussing concerns to reach middle ground understanding.
jamal,
Are you joking? If ANYONE in Syria showed any displeasure with the regime they were thrown in jail or fired from their government job.
It’s called free speech, and under Assad there WASN’T any.
Hopeful said:
Now, look at Israel. Why do Arabs hate Jews so much? The answer should help you answer your question as well.
We should all listen carefully to Hopeful, Syrialover, Tara and Observer. They know what they’re talking about.
Once the Resistance Pros™ are removed from the ME Center Stage, this region will set the rest of the world on fire in terms of economic opportunity. The fight will be worth it, but it will take a long time.
May 15th, 2015, 8:23 am
mjabali said:
“Syrian”
He is a Sunni like you and not an Iranian, or a Shia as you said. Even my dog smelled him a mile away.
All I have to do is sit back and laugh and watch you guys respond to him.
Comedy hour.
As for Faysal al-Qasim: if you do not understand Arabic that is not my problem.
May 15th, 2015, 9:19 am
ALAN said:
Referring to 88
Hopeful, Syrialover, Tara and Observer: Congratulations to obtain a certificate of appreciation by the Zionist spokesman.
May 15th, 2015, 9:21 am
mjabali said:
Observaaar the French Toast (Faysal al-Qasim wanna-be)
I always make everything you say into toast.
You can not muster an answer to the FACTS I am giving you to save your life.
Your defense strategy: Denial, and personal attacks on me like any teenage troll online….
Now you are speaking like Faysal al-Qasim: The Alawites and the regime are one. You have been saying this from day one. So, according to you: the Aalwites should be punished like what Faysal al-Qasim call almost on every episode, even if the topic was French Wine.
Loud mouth trolls like you are the best weapon Bashar al-Assad has.
Keep on denying the Fact that your family is an Ottoman import to Syria and that is why you have zero connection to our Syrian identity….You say this not me….man up and claim your heritage…if it wasn’t for the Ottomans: you would have been selling Falafels in Kurdistan and not the French toast that you are right now…
See I showed you the hate speech of Faysal al-Qasim..now you want to deny it….
it was right in front of your eyes.
Again: If you do not understand Arabic that is not my problem.
Obeservaar: keep trolling….
May 15th, 2015, 9:40 am
Hopeful said:
#83 Jamal
Let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that you are correct about the core problems. Who controlled the economy and education in Syria over the past 50 years? Who was in charge? And why would you allow anyone who failed miserably in economy and education to continue to lead the country?
May 15th, 2015, 10:18 am
ALAN said:
The historical drill of Chinese and Russian Navies in Black, and Mediterranean Seas is a clear cut message to the US of america that they’re up against two foes, so it’s better for the US to back down and tone down the rhetoric. the united states of america is in dire straits and need to preserve the profitability of its weapons industry and one thing to do so is the continuous warfare. But Russia together with China will just be too much for what the armed forces of the united states can handle and moreover, the american sheeple, however dumbed down and fatted up they are, will not accept another war with boots on the ground.
NATO is presently an aggressive tool of the US but there is discontent among the members which feel they have been forced into a situation by the US they have no heart for. and if push comes to shove, as forced by the united states aggressive tool, NATO, the member cadre will likely be reduced when a number of members prefer to leave.
Obama/sheeple hysteria will subside to the fact, strongest of their ability.
Obama knows that the US cannot complete the PNAC war plan, and appears to be he is seeking the exit-strategies with Russia, Iran, and China.
SYRIA you are not alone!!
May 15th, 2015, 12:42 pm
Jasmine said:
Nice message from Palmyra: Zenobia is too beautiful to wear a veil,we will protect her,this is a promise from the Syrian army.
May 15th, 2015, 3:29 pm
Syrialover said:
Wait JASMINE (#94), check before swallowing and spouting such nonsense.
A battle is immediately threatening the Palmyra historic site because the Syrian Army has placed its military positions there.
May 15th, 2015, 5:11 pm
Syrialover said:
Oh ALAN #90 you’re just jealous. No real person, ever, anywhere has given you a certificate of appreciation.
Interesting that you seem to care.
May 15th, 2015, 5:22 pm
Jamal said:
of course the regime is responsible for destroying the economy (especially by liberating to the Turkish products) and smashing the middle class, I totally agree with you no doubt about it. However this does not justify taking up arms and getting paid by bedouins to kill your country citizens, does not it?
The civilised way is through election and peaceful civil disobedience not taking up arms. To be honest they took us off guard when they started protesting without weapons and we were betting on that moment when they show their real faces. Luckily, it did not take long and only after 6 weeks they Sunnah showed the arms. Even Haytham Mana’a exposed them when he disclosed the call he received from Qatar offering weapons and he refused it utterly.
May 15th, 2015, 7:12 pm
Jamal said:
Syrian is asking for a blood test to prove that I’m a Syrian and MJABALI asking for Alawite blood test.
Nice one
May 15th, 2015, 7:14 pm
Jamal said:
The street girl trying to impose new engagement rules in this website. If you don’t agree with her Sunnah extremist point of view then she will insult your mother. It’s similar to the regime approach, if you disagree with us you will get arrested.
It says a lot about your regime surrounding upbringing mentality.
May 15th, 2015, 7:20 pm
Syrian said:
Mjabali.
If your wannabe sidekick is a Sunni, like you..the dog both think ,then he is nothing like me,I’m a proud Sunni while he is a self hating Sunni, to borrow the frase from our cousins.Glade we can share the entertainment value he is providing. Here is one thing we have in common, having a good laugh at this self hating Sunni trying to be an Alawit just on self hating.
About Faysal. I understood his Arabic perfectly, and agree with you he went beyond Ibn T, my point was, that tape will not hold in a court of law.
Now go on and take it on the Druze and leave the Sunnis out of it.
May 15th, 2015, 7:28 pm
Ghufran said:
A lot of what is being said about the Syrian war is a distraction, there is plenty of guilt to be shared among all participating parties. Nations that manage to rise up from destruction did so by agreeing to either splitting or living under one roof with rules that accommodate most citizens,unfortunately neither options are viable today and we are watching this war consume more lives and treasure while terrorist groups use the vacuum to expand and gain land and recruits. Political figures that advertise a political solution have no power over armed rebels and terrorists and many Syrians are today cheer leaders for either terrorist groups or a failed regime. Syrians in my judgement are unable to end this war and are now under the mercy of big players who have little to lose if this war continues as long as it does not spread to Lebanon, Israel, turkey or Jordan.
Obama admitted today that the war may not end before he leaves office and other leaders are busy making money and creating new enclaves that augment their interests.
We have given the keys to our cities to foreign nations and now those nations control our destiny. That grim outcome can only be changed when foreign powers believe that we are ready to accept a compromise, that desirable acceptance has not come yet.
أمه فاشله من الألف الى الياء
May 15th, 2015, 8:13 pm
Tara said:
Please ban stupiduty on this site. Please have IQ check as a requirement for commenting. It is really daunting to read stupids
Signed by
Street girl
May 15th, 2015, 8:55 pm
mjabali said:
Syrian
Believe me we share lots of things in common. Glad there is someone with wits to figure this out.
Faysal al-Qasim and his station al-Jazeera are liable for many types of law suits.
There is a history of al-Jazeera inciting hatred towards the Alawties, and the Shia.
If any American channel puts up a show like Faysal al-Qasim’s show about anyone: what will happen?
In the Civilized world : TV stations can not air shows that promote genocide of a religious group.
In Qatar: which live in the past: TV stations could promote the genocide of minorities thousands of miles away.
What is the harm the Alawites are doing to Qatar?
Qatar runs al-Jazeera, a station that did nothing good so far…The ruling family of Qatar is the one spreading this sectarian hatred.
By the way: do you know the there are %20 of Qataris that are Shia; why doesn’t Faysal al-Qasim make a show about them?
May 15th, 2015, 9:42 pm
mjabali said:
Tara:
If we apply what you want : You will banned first. then those who are arguing agains the fake Alawite.
In one or two days, you posted the following posts:
– Your comment supporting Maher Sharaf al-Din who want to kill all the Alawites…
– You comment about al-Assad connecting with the Crusades..
– Your comment insulting my mother….
– Your comments thinking that by insulting my mother you are giving me a lesson..
– Your comments about the traitors…
– Your repeated comments abut the Alawites being traitors to the Crusades and the Persians….
The question here remains the same: When are you going to leave the land of the Crusades and live in the land of the faithful?
Second question: Do you think you are doing the Sunnis any good with these comments and superior intellect?
May 15th, 2015, 9:54 pm
Syrialover said:
MJABALI wrote (#104)
“Believe me we share lots of things in common. Glad there is someone with wits to figure this out.”
Correct. We ALL share things in common, unless we are psychopaths, criminals or benefiting from the Assad regime. Above all, we share biological human characteristics of needs and suffering and compassion.
Want reassuring proof?
See this powerful story and short film which should clear heads and revise perspectives.
“My enemy, my brother” -http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/13/opinion/my-enemy-my-brother.html?_r=0
This should be compulsory viewing for all Syrians, Iraqis, ISIS recruits, Iranians, and those stuck inside the web of Hezbollah.
May 15th, 2015, 11:03 pm
Syrian said:
Mjabali.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here, if Faysal and Al Jazeera is talking the genocide talk Alassad and his supporters are actually doing it.
So before you lash out on the ones doing the talking lash out at the one doing the walking.
May 16th, 2015, 12:25 am
Hopeful said:
#97 Jamal
So if the regime failure in economy and education generated millions of angry uncivilized Syrians who took up arms and accepted money from outsiders, is the right solution to go ahead and kill them all?
Since you quoted Haytham Manna, why not support a solution that he, and many others like him, are advocating? Why not release Abdul Azim Khayyer and empower him to find a way to unify the country? Get rid of the rotten regime, rally the people to kick out all the terrorists, and get Syria’s independent back from the Iranian mullas?
Bashar Assad maybe a hero war lord to some in Syria, but similarly Baghdadi is a hero to some in Syria as well. We deserve mush better as a leader to our country.
May 16th, 2015, 1:20 am
Jasmine said:
Syria lover @95
You are blinded by the hatred of The Syrian Army,if it wasn’t for them,Syria would have been taken by those claiming to be religious.
Syria and Zenobia existed before Islam and it doesn’t needs any religion to survive.
Looking after your history is the most honorable act of citizenship,it is more important than your religious or tribal attachment .
Once you free your self from anger and hate,you will learn how lucky you are and how proud you should be to be Syrian.
May 16th, 2015, 3:29 am
mjabali said:
“Syrian”
-al-Assad is killing the Syrian people, his opponents and his supporters who are getting killed defending him, this is a fact. But he is not encouraging religious wars on his TV like al-Jazeera.
-Qatar is killing Syrian people also through the billions of dollars they put into the armed groups so far, plus the toxic shows they put on al-Jazeera.
– So, mr. “Syrian” the question again remains the same: who is going to bring Faysal al-Qasim and al-Jazeera in front of a court in the West? or When is this going to happen?
May 16th, 2015, 9:14 am
Syrian said:
Mjabali.
Well,to answer your question we have to look at what the “West” did in a similar situation , the Rwanda genocide. It had all the element of Syria situation, a minority controlling the majority, a radio announcer that was directing the mobs to their opponents positions, you can also add France as a former colonist power to both countries that used sectarian policies to control the population.
So studying that example it will be Lehigh 10 to 15 years after the end of the war, and most likely it will be Assad and his top generals before they even go after Fiysal, same as they did with the radio announcer who was last to be put on trail.
May 16th, 2015, 1:14 pm
ALAN said:
Mark Glenn, an author and journalist in Idaho, about US President Barack Obama’s recent remarks that there is no “military solution” to the conflict in Syria, days after Washington announced plans to train anti-Damascus militants.
Why Obama should start training the so-called moderate militants to prolong a war, and then turn around and say that there is no military solution to the war?
Right, this is what Obama has to do in order to maintain this illusion that what is taking place on the ground in Syria is anything other than a Zionist and American plot to overthrow the government of Bashar al-Assad through means less personally demanding than what the Americans had to do with regards to Iraq.
It is not a complicated problem as Obama said… the situation on the ground in Syria is a very simple problem to understand. It is one word long and it is spelled I.S.R.A.E.L, Israel. Israel is the only beneficiary in the region who stands to gain from all the turmoil talking place in Syria.
May 16th, 2015, 2:06 pm
ALAN said:
Syrian nightmare
http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/258701-syria-civil-war-is/
May 16th, 2015, 3:16 pm
Syrialover said:
Dear JASMINE, Thank you for responding to my remarks. But it’s disappointing that you don’t seem to read them and always answer way off topic. Your comment in #108 again shows this.
It would be terrific if you would actually read and respond to the following:
I frequently express concern and distress at the suffering of young Syrians who have been conscripted into the Syrian army. Unfortunately I personally know about this, and the impact on families. They are tragically unlucky to have been born when and where they are.
But those directing the Syrian Army (many of them now Iranian) have committed industrial-scale destruction of Syrian heritage sites along with urban areas. They don’t care, and you should feel sick about that (if your emotional comment is sincere).
There were objections many months ago at the Syrian army setting up military positions INSIDE the Palmyra heritage site
Google it. Or better still, ask someone who is in contact with family or friends there.
May 16th, 2015, 4:33 pm
Syrialover said:
And JASMINE, it would raise my respect for you sky-high if you indicated you had taken the time to look at the short documentary I linked in #105. You might see the current conflict and its impact on those fighting a bit differently.
“My enemy, my brother” -http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/13/opinion/my-enemy-my-brother.html?_r=0
May 16th, 2015, 4:41 pm
ALAN said:
both the US and Syria agree that there was a fight overnight in which a senior ISIS leader was killed following a firefight with either US or Syrian forces, a leader who the US has not fully identified, and which the Syrian claim is a gentleman with the name of Abu al-Teem al-Saudi.
Suddenly the recent snubbing of Obama by Saudi King Salman makes much more sense.
The only question is if now that ISIS’ oil minister – Saudi or not – is out of the picture and Saudi Arabia the “terrorist regime” can no longer flood the world market with ultra cheap oil to crush US shale producers, will this have a proportional impact on the price of oil?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-16/us-commandos-raid-syria-kill-isis-gas-minister-identified-damascus-saudi-citizen
May 16th, 2015, 4:42 pm
Syrialover said:
Thank you again, HOPEFUL (#107). I always rush to read your comments. It reassures me that someone, somewhere is thinking rationally, objectively about Syria.
Here’s a statement I read from the new leader of Nigeria, a country internally wrecked by years of staggering corruption, mismanagement, religious and tribal rivalries and a brutal jihadist insurgency.
“This is the ONLY country we have that we can call our own. We will salvage it together” – Muhammadu Buhari, President-elect (in a first ever clean election!) of Nigeria.
Who will say that to Syrians? Not those who have destroyed it.
May 16th, 2015, 5:21 pm
Syrialover said:
Not sure if there are trolls and “operators” on this forum?
I was amused to see 5 rush to give the thumbs-down to embarrassing exposure and criticism of Rifaat Assad in #86.
May 16th, 2015, 5:29 pm
mjabali said:
Here is an article that appeared today written by Ghassan Aboud, the owner of Orient TV about how the Alawites are not to be lived with…He said that there is no shared history between the Syrians and the Alawites….
Remember this guy own a TV station…
كشف حديث لؤي حسين ومنى غانم مع مراسل أورينت (سيبان ديركي) عن ثلاث سمات يشترك بها التيار المركزي عند الطائفة النصيرية/ العلوية.
الأولى: سب وإنكار كل رمز وطني (العلم، الثورة، شهداء الثورة، تلفزيون أورينت)!
الثانية: التمسك بالسلطة المطلقة للنصيريين دون باقي الشعب السوري، الذين يعتبروهم عبيداً(!؟) والتهديد بالانفصال دون ذلك، حين قال حسين: “سيكون لي هوية أخرى فيما لو نجحت الثورة”!
الثالثة: العنجهية المفرطة والتعالي لدرجة المرض واستخدام السب بأقظع الألفاظ السوقية: حيث قال: “أنا الثورة وأنتم سفلة…الائتلاف من جاء إلي ولم أذهب لهم… مستخدما أسلوب الشتم حتى للذات الإلهية؟!
يعرف من يتابع تصريحات وكتابات كثير من أبناء الطائفة النصيرية أنه بصعوبة بالغة تجد من يخرج عن هذه السمات الثلاثة عندهم! وطالما وعى السوريون هذه الحالة، لكنهم أصرّوا أن يشيحوا بوجههم عنها، الى أن حصدنا المأساة الكاملة، بحجة الرغبة بالتعايش، دون الاستناد إلى الشرائع الدولية الحضارية!
لا يوجد تاريخ مشترك بين السوريين والنصيريين!
بالنسبة للسمة الأولى: يعطي الشعب السوري عموما احتراما وتقديرا لدور الشخصيات العربية الأولى الفاتحة لبلاد الشام، عمر بن الخطاب وخالد بن الوليد ومعاوية بن أبي سفيان… نابعاً عن قيمة دورهم أكثر منه قيمتهم كرموز دينية، راجع ما كتبه عنهم مثلا كتاب مسيحيون من الشوام بداية القرن العشرين، حيث اعتبروهم رجال دولة وسياسة وعسكر. لكن هذه الشخصيات هدف لعن وسب مُرّكز عند النصيرية! قد نفهم الجانب الديني المدسوس عند بعض فرق الشيعة، لكن ما الذي فعلته هذه الشخصيات للنصيرية والتي هي حركة باطنية متأخرة بقرون على تلك الشخصيات؟! هذا الأمر لا يسري فقط على تلك الشخصيات التاريخية، فبنفس حالة التقدير حظيت شخصيات كصلاح الدين الأيوبي والمظفر قطز والظاهر بيبرس، عند السوريين، كرجال دولة وسياسة وحرب وقادة حرروا بلاد الشام وما جاورها من غزو التتار والغزو الصليبي، الذي أدانته أمم الأرض بما فيها الأمم الأوروبية الحديثة، في حين نالت تلك الشخصيات أيضا نصيبا كبيرا من السب واللعن عند النصيرية!؟
في التاريخ السوري الحديث يحترم السوريون شخصيات سورية، منها إبراهيم هنانو وحسن الخراط وسلطان الأطرش والدكتور عبد الرحمن الشهبندر وشكري القوتلي وحكمت الحراكي ورشدي الكيخيا وسعد الله الجابري وهاشم الأتاسي، وصولا إلى رجل الأعمال السياسي خالد العظم وكل من ساهموا بالتحرر وصناعة الاستقلال في العصر الحديث، وساهموا في خلق الدولة السورية المدنية الديمقراطية المنتجة الحديثة، مع ذلك فإن العقلية النصيرية تنظر لهم باحتقار وكره شديدين حيث وصفوهم في أدبياتهم بالجهلة والمتخلفين والرجعيين العملاء، ولا يزالون يعاقبون أحفادهم الى اللحظة لأنهم يحملون كنيتهم! علما أن معظم هؤلاء من خريجي الجامعات الأووربية العريقة، وجميعهم ساهموا بتحرر سوريا من الاحتلال الفرنسي، ورفعوا سوريا إلى مصاف الدول الأوروبية اقتصاديا وثقافيا، في حين أن النصيريين آنذاك لم يك قد غادروا جبالهم بعد!؟
في حالة معاكسة ينظر السوريون، لا بل والعالم أجمع الى تيمورلنك الغازي التتري صاحب المجازر وحرائق المدن ومدمر الحضارة السورية، كمجرم همجي، لكن النصيريين يعتبرونه سيدهم المقدس، راجع كتب الكاتب النصيري غالب الطويل، وصفه: “سيدي تيمور”!؟
كذلك اعتبر السوريون في بداية القرن العشرين أن الحركة الصهيونية حركة عنصرية توسيعية، في حين اعتبر قادة ووجهاء وممثلو النصيرية الموقعون على الوثيقة التي قدموها للمندوب السامي الفرنسي، أن الحركة الصهيونية حركة مسالمة تسعى لتطوير المنطقة من الجهل ويجب دعمها في مشروعها لاستيطان فلسطين وتهجير أهلها، لا بل وطالبوا الاحتلال الفرنسي بالوثيقة نفسها بضرب كل من يقاومها، وأن المقاومين للمشروع الصهيوني من أهل بلاد الشام همج متطرفون كارهون للحضارة وللآخر وللتعايش الديني!؟
مثال حيّ آخر، مع بداية الثورة اعتبر السوريون أن نظام أسد بكل مايمثله نظام مجرم، لأنه يرتكب مجازر استنكرها العالم أجمع، مجزرة الكيماوي، وآلاف غيرها يوميا، كما يعتبر السوريون أن مقرات الأمن يجب نسفها عن بكرة أبيها لما لها من دور إجرامي، مثالا: تسرب عنها 55 ألف صورة لضحايا ماتوا تحت التعذيب يندى لها جبين البشرية! في حين يراها النصيريون مراكز وطنية وينظرون إلى ضحاياها على أنهم مجرمون إرهابيون بما فيهم الأطفال! تابعوا تلفزيون أسد ووسائل إعلامه، وكتابات نبيل صالح وحسن م يوسف وأبي حسن وأدونيس وغيرهم وصولا الى “المعارضين” منهم فاتح جاموس ولؤي حسين ومنى غانم!
إذا هناك مشكلة حقيقية وهي أنه ليس لدى النصيريين تاريخ مشترك مع الشعب السوري، لا بل يعكسونه تماما! فقتلة الشعب السوري عند النصيرية هم محررون يستحقون التقديس، ورجالات الشعب السوري من المحررين والساسة والاقتصاديين بناة سوريا وبلاد الشام ينظر لهم النصيريون على أنهم مجرمون وعملاء وهمج!؟
بموضوع شهية السلطة المطلقة والشعب السوري مجرد عبيد فقط، والتهديد بالانفصال إن خالف السوريون رغبتهم، وكذلك العنجهية حتى بالإجرام وليس بالكلام، لا أعتقد أنه يحتاج الى كثير أمثلة، يكفي مثال الوثيقة الفرنسية ذاتها، والتي كشف عنها السفير الفرنسي في اجتماع الأمم المتحدة قبل ثلاث سنوات، وما يفعله النصيريون من تدمير لسوريا والمنطقة برمتها لأجل شهوة الحكم! أما مثال استخدام الألفاظ النابية، تقريبا ليس هناك كاتب وسياسي منهم إلا ويستخدم الألفاظ المنحطة في كتاباته وأحاديثه، كأبناء الطلقاء، أولاد الزنا، سفلة، عرصات، نكاح، صرماية، بوط… وجميعها لم تتواجد في ثقافة الخطابة السورية قبل وصول النصيريين إلى السلطة!
أعتقد أن أزمة الشعب السوري مع النصيرية أعمق مما ينظر لها حاليا!؟ فكيف سنقبل الحياة مع مجموعة بشرية تربي أجيالها على الحقد والقتل والنظر إلى المجموعات البشرية التي يتقاسمون معهم الحياة على أرض واحدة بدونية لحد الإعدام بدم بارد، فمثلا عند النصيرية السنة حمير، والمسيحيون خنازير، وباقي المجموعات الإنسانية الأخرى قرود؟! وشعوب المنطقة المحيطة بنا جمال إلخ… وجميعهم حيوانات لا بشر يجب قتلهم ونحرهم، وطبقوها فعلا وليس فقط معتقدا وفكرا، تسربت فيديوهات حرق أطفال أحياء والاستمتاع برائحة شوائهم! ليس هناك أمّة من أمم الأرض تقبل بهكذا جيران وتتعايش مع هكذا تربية!
في سوريا الجديدة يجب الكشف عن العقائد الباطنية وإصلاحها
في سوريا الجديدة يجب الكشف عن العقائد الباطنية، وعلى الشعب السوري بنخبه ومؤسساته أن يطالب بالكشف عنها وإصلاحها، بما يتناسب مع طبيعة الرسالة الإنسانية للأديان، وبما لا يتعارض مع شريعة حقوق الإنسان. وأن يشرف بنفسه على التعليم والتربية والمعتقدات، ولا يقبل أي تربية تقوم على احتقار أو إلغاء الآخر. من غير المعقول في القرن الواحد والعشرين أن تكون هناك عقائد باطنية مخفية، وخصوصاً أن أصحابها حكاماً، لذلك أعتقد أنه لو لم يكن فيها ما يتعارض مع شريعة حقوق الإنسان من تصنيف للبشر بدونية وعنصرية، ودعوة إلى قتل الآخر، لما أخفوها.
لقد أشعل النصيريون حربا أهلية جرت الويلات على عموم الشعب السوري، بسب التكوين الديني والتربوي للنصيريين. (تذكروا أن مسيرات خرجت في طرطوس، وعلى أتوستراد المزة بدمشق، في اليوم الأول للثورة، أكد المراقبون أن المشاركين بها عموما من الطائفة النصيرية، رفعت شعاراً غريباً آنذاك: “بشار عالعيادة وماهر عالقيادة”، إنه تهديد مبطن من الطائفة لبشار أسد إن لم يقد الحرب الطائفية فهناك بديل عنه نصيري وأسدي أيضا! وهم أول من أسس ميليشيات القتل الطائفية، وحتى قبل الثورة بعدة أسابيع، (بعد سقوط زين العابدين بن علي وزعت جهات نصيرية السلاح الفردي على كل نصيري قادر على حمل السلاح، ولم يك السوريون بعد قد انتبهوا إلى الثورة التونسية). هذه الحرب الأهلية تحرق سوريا وتدمي وتهجر شعبها، لذلك من حقنا أن نخاف على مستقبل الجيل السوري القادم، ونجنبه ما نحن فيه حاليا، فلا أظن أننا كسوريين على استعداد لأن نخوض حرباً أهلية كل 20 عاما!
*مدير عام مجموعة (أورينت) الإعلامية
May 16th, 2015, 5:45 pm
Jamal said:
# 107. HOPEFUL
You’re a normal person on this website and I find that quite odd. I’m happy to keep conversing with you.
(.. is the right solution to go ahead and kill them all? ..)
The answer is of NO. We were just arresting them when they were peaceful but when they took up arms and sold their souls to the bedouin devils then similar to any sovereign state we defended out country with what it takes.
( .. Since you quoted Haytham Manna … Abdul Azim Khayyer …)
Haytham Manna is not a national opposition
Abdul Azim Khayyer is been kept safe and will be out is sign of good faith when the time comes out. He’s Alawite and he should not cross obvious lines like receiving calls from Rif’aat Alassad when he’s out of Syria.
(Bashar Assad … a hero …)
Alassad the son is rightly elected by the Syrian people. The opposition was given the rights to participate in the last presidential election even refugees in Jordan and Lebanon were allowed to cast their votes. Now if they decided to boycott then it’s their decision to miss the dinner invite.
May 16th, 2015, 7:07 pm
Jamal said:
The street girl acts as if this website is her own property and mandates rules of who can post, what can post, what should post.
My first advise for you to actually go and get a life. In two days you’ll celebrate your 4th anniversary on this website. You started posting on (May 18th, 2011, 5:52 pm) and never stopped. I find that impossible for normal people unless this is your job (or at least side-job).
You tried your best to draw this picture of rich Sunnah educated single mother, you shared some fake personal news about your imaginary daughter to draw people close to you and gain their trust. You talked about your shopping habits and preference of tv shows, you attacked the first lady and .. and ..and. You did a master job of depiction of this this alias called “Tara”
This is your first comment
https://www.joshualandis.com/blog/the-united-states-imposed-sanctions-on-syrian-president-bashar-al-assad/?cp=1#comment-251350
I analysed your comments and could see the journey of hatred you went through during this last four years. You started asking to stop the regime business enterprise, then gradually started to care about human rights, to increase the heat and advocating for taking up arms, to ask bluntly for foreign intervention and occupation of Syria, then suddenly you started supporting the Islamists and justifying their actions and agendas to finally openly and bluntly calling for cleansing the Alawites and other minorities.
You’re a cheap criminal, and nothing but a cheap paid horn who just follows the script provided to you.
May 16th, 2015, 8:20 pm
ghufran said:
There is no excuse to secretly arrest people without a charge and legal due process but that is what Syrians have been asked to accept since 1963, now we see that the rebels and even the opposition are copying the methods and the tactics of the Baathist regime and the police state it controlled. Make no mistake about it, the regime that ruled Syria since 1963 is guilty, a country like Syria deserves a much better government.
The tragedy in Syria is that the cure many of you, thawrajiyyeh, have found or advocated is worse than the disease, that leaves Syrians stuck between a rock and a hard place.
One day Syrians will lay down their arms and stop killing each other and see a country and a people that are largely destroyed and bitterly divided, so what is your plan Mr. Thawraji and Mr. Assadist on how to get rid of the tens of thousands of Jihadists that are in Syria today, and who do you think will pay the bills to rebuild the country and at what political cost ?
Despite all of that, there are still people who want Assad to stay and the Alawites to go back “to the mountains”.
The short and most likely conclusion: we are screwed !!
أمه فاشله من الألف الى الياء
May 16th, 2015, 8:30 pm
Jamal said:
While searching the paid troll I come across some valuable discussions from both sides. This website used to be an awesome portal for Syrian and Non-Syrian intellects but now it’s more of a walking dead.
Where’s NORMAN, JAC, SHAI, AIG, SOPHIA, WHY-DISCUSS, MAJEDKHALDOON, SYRIA NO KANDAHAR, ABOUD, DEMOCRACYNOW, MINA, QNFUZ, REVLON, and the list goes on.
May 16th, 2015, 8:31 pm
Jasmine said:
Syria lover @ 113&114
Nothing can make a true Syrian sad as much as the destruction of its heritage,and I agree with you that more initiative should guarantee the full protection of the archeological sites.
We are all affected by this war and I have some relatives affected by the previous civil war in Lebanon and even by the War in Iraq,but this is not going to make me seek revenge to the rest of my life,and believe me I have a heart breaking stories to tell,may be one day I will write about it.
I have a fond memory of my country Syria and I was lucky to have a good life when I lived there,and I want Syria to heal and prosper like any other decent Syrian would wish to his country.
May 17th, 2015, 12:44 am
Ghufran said:
This blog lost much of its vigor and diversity but it is still better than most, however I would not call some of the names mentioned above “intellectuals”, few were banned for using foul language and advocating violence against religious or ethnic groups, others simply left because they became irrelevant. The war and the blood shed made many Syrians lose their temper and their ability to use their brain power when it comes to Syria. The war must stop before Syrians can talk to each other again. I do not believe I will see a normal country in my life time, I will be thankful if the blood shed stops, I could not care less about Who is president and what flag the country has, I want children to go to school and see cartoons at home instead of head cutting ceremonies and war videos. On a personal note I lost the little faith I once had in Arabism and lost all respect for most religious figures and people who advertise religion, Islam today is in the intensive care and Arabs today are the butt jokes of all nations.
May 17th, 2015, 1:03 am
Hopeful said:
#119 Jamal
In an effort to keep searching for a solution, I will not debate with you past events which I would disagree with you on (not killing peaceful demonstrators, Assad’s rightful election, etc.), but will instead focus on trying to find points of agreements regrading a solution.
1. The “political transitional entity” which will need to be put in place to transition Syria into a democratic state must have people with “no blood on their hands” from both sides. Not everyone in this group will get “approval” from every Syrian, but at least there will be no reasonable strong objections. So I believe people like Manaa, Khayyer, Galioun, Khatib, etc., would be acceptable figures. They may not be acceptable to other opposition figures, or to regime’s hardliners, but it does not matter. The important thing is being accepted by the vast majority of the Syrian people. I believe that the regime can produce a list of people as well but it may be harder. The reason is that the regime ONLY put in the media spotlight the people who are 100% behind everything the regime was doing, and therefore it is hard to find someone who, for example, said publicly that dropping barrel bombs and gassing civilians are not good ideas. I am sure these people exist but the people of Syria do not yet know them.
2. The “security entity” which will need to be put in place to transition Syria must be led by people who are true patriots and are not just viewed as protectors of the regime or a sect. I believe the Syrian Army can produce such a name. It’s mission should be to keep the fragile peace while giving space and time for the political entity to stabilize the country and come up with a political roadmap. The hard part here is to get rid of the Mukhabarat and the special forces whose job is to protect the regime and the Assad’s family. But such an entity can absorb what remains of the FSA fighters and focus its future mission on fighting ISIS and breaking down Al-nusrah so that people with non-national agenda are isolated and defeated.
3. Assad, as a symbol of division cannot be part of the solution. Send him somewhere for a few years – he has done enough damage. Once a political roadmap is established – he can come back and run for elections if he likes to. I am convinced that not even the Alawite sect will vote for him as other more capable Alawite faces and names will emerge on the scene which will expose him as the spoiled brat he is.
May 17th, 2015, 2:03 am
Hopeful said:
#116 SyrianLover
Thank you. I appreciate your kind words and support.
I found the “cairo group” pretty refreshing. We need new voices like these. Maqdissi, for example, may not be influential politically but he is a good voice of reason.
I have no doubt that a good solution can be found for Syria. But ONLY if the people in the regime’s camp recognize that Assad and his cronies must not be part of it. This may happen if people within that camp start realizing that this was indeed a popular uprising against tyranny and will only die out if tyranny is gone. Many (like Jamal on this forum) seem to be genuinely surprised at the scale of the “hatred” as they believed all along what the regime has been telling them – that this is a “conspiracy” led by the US, Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. The regime thinks like an occupier – if only we dry out the sources of funding and fighters, we will win the war. That thinking did not work for the French in Algeria and it is not working for Israel in the past 67 years. The Syrian revolution is not and was never an “event” sparked by outsiders – it is an earthquake caused by pressure built up over 50 years by misaligned tectonic plates (regime and people) within the society. It will not die out until these plates are aligned properly again.
May 17th, 2015, 2:22 am
Hopeful said:
#124 Ghufran
Arabism and political Islam are only two nice names for “Totalitarianism”. They both mean the same thing: try to unify people forcefully under a central dictatorship which controls both public and private life. This may have worked in past centuries, but in this day and age, this will never work.
Take a look at Syria, Iraq and Egypt. During the fifties all were rising nations and potential true democracies. When the “nationalists” took over and try to forcefully create unities, everything started going downhill.
Nasser and the Baathists both wanted an “Arab nation”, but of course they disagreed on where the center would be. Baath’s Assad and Baath’s Hussein both ruled under the Baath’s slogan of “Arab unity”, but each saw himself as the rightful shepherd. In short, unity under dictatorships cannot take place in this day and age.
Europe learned that lesson the hard way 70 years ago. After breaking down into pieces, each piece developed its own economy and its true democracy. Only then they started looking to unity to become stronger. The US could not have been ruled by a dictatorship. The Arab World can only be unified after people within every piece within it have their own representative government and a say in the way their piece worked.
May 17th, 2015, 2:59 am
Jamal said:
# 125. HOPEFUL
Likewise In an effort to keep searching for a solution, I will not debate with you past events which I would disagree.
1. The “political transitional entity”
Neither the president nor the bedouins opposition will be responsible for this period of time. The government can oversea the process of putting the country back on track, there’s no need to transitioning committee or wise-men console. It will be a technocrat government lead by Sunnah prime minister and Alawite defence minister as 2IC. This government will not be political and it does not need big muscles names, all what it needs is subject-matter expert (SME) with one vision or rebuilding the country.
This government will propose a new constitution and election law which will be put for direct referendum to people (refugees and expats will be able to participate). Both should be passed with at lest 2/3 majority to minimise any possibility of regime supporters to skew the results. After agreeing on the election law an election will be held after 2 years (to allow some time to remove war lords and regain Raqa from ISIL). After that, and at the end of the current presidential term, a new presidential election will be held with no pre-vetos or pre-conditions where muslims and non-muslims will be allowed to run as candidates.
2. The “security entity”
This current crisis proved the importance of every security division in the country so dismantling them is not an option. However, they could be restructured to reduce their numbers and change their governance from the government to be followed directly to the presidential palace.
3. Alassad the son is a Syrian citizen and has the rights to stay, leave, or run for presidency. It’s up to him and only him to decide his fate.
May 17th, 2015, 3:14 am
ALAN said:
Today you do not have something to offer simply because it is no longer something in your baggage and all your papers have been exhausted
Syrian affairs is not in your hands, and not even in hands of those, who are in solidarity with you. Do not you see that your issue in the case of a blockage? This underdeveloped rusty language can not occur any shift !!! Do you an amateur of Alternation in place?
US President Barack Obama is calling for a political solution (يكذب عليكم) to the Syrian crisis but at the same time Washington is also arming militants fighting against the government of President Bashar al-Assad (خدمة لاسرائيل)
The planned strategy for President Obama to continue the war in Syria until 2017 and then they will continue planning for the post-2017
Is there something that is not clear in the strategy of the president? This is indeed enormous financial wealth and a great benefit in favor of the US and Zionist allies!
May 17th, 2015, 4:13 am
ALAN said:
reminder!
AP said:
/Once the Resistance Pros™ are removed from the Middle East Center Stage, this region will set the rest of the world on FIRE in terms of ECONOMIC opportunity. The fight will be worth it, but it will take a LONG TIME./
May 17th, 2015, 4:42 am
Hopeful said:
#128 Jamal
1. In addition to the technocrats, you will need political cover. We need people, from both sides, who can convince the people carrying arms, on both sides, to pause. By stating that they are NOT needed, you simply are still saying that the solution is not political, but militarily. I personally do not believe so. If you believe that the solution is political, then you must have a political council that can sell a solution to the people and convince them, at least, to pause.
2. However the security apparatus is formed, it cannot be in place to influence/dictate the political process. Its purpose is to simply allow the political process the time it needs. I do not have a problem with it “reporting” to the president, as long as the president is a unifying figure whom all parties view as an acceptable transitional figure until real elections are possible. This is not Assad and is not Baghdadi.
3. Of course he has the right to stay in Syria or leave. He has the right to run for real elections when they are ready. But in the meanwhile, he must step aside and let a real solution take shape. Both Michelle Oun and Samir Jaajaa are political leaders today in Lebanon and both are presidential candidates, but neither of them led Lebanon out of the civil war they, among many others, have caused.
May 17th, 2015, 5:36 am
Badr said:
Does it reduce psychological tension, or rather reinforce one’s gloomy mood, to keep on expressing the opinion that it is hopeless?
May 17th, 2015, 7:16 am
Jasmine said:
Badr
That depend if you are reading the blog with a glass of wine or a cup of tea.
May 17th, 2015, 7:26 am
Tara said:
““The Syrian regime is much more hollow at its centre than one might think,” said a well-connected Syrian businessman, who asked not to be identified. “It’s a house of cards surviving on the projected image that it can still win the war. But the officials I know have already packed their bags, ready to run should that impression collapse.””
Ali Mamlouk was staged to sit near Batta talking to the Iranians for photo op while under house arrest. He is now علي صعلوك
Hehe…
والله قربت نهايتك يابشار
May 17th, 2015, 7:58 am
ALAN said:
Obama and his allies in NATO will withdraw from Europe defense systems, useless towards Russian weapons because they had sold them to the camels of GCC (to be used against the Iranian boogeyman). Iran for the foreseeable future will equal the level of Russian armament in this field. It’s OK to buy scrap with substantial financial generosity. American will continue armament Tempting business to make profits. Bravo Obama …. Camels might regurgitate the feed.
May 17th, 2015, 8:15 am
Syrialover said:
Photographic proof (sorry, JASMINE)
Long before ISIS, Assad forces station their rocket launchers, right in middle of historic Roman city of Palmyra
https://twitter.com/hmhm4life/status/599875649453555712
May 17th, 2015, 10:35 am
Syrialover said:
HOPEFUL #126
I’m filing this brilliant quote by you:
“The Syrian revolution is not and was never an “event” sparked by outsiders – it is an earthquake caused by pressure built up over 50 years by misaligned tectonic plates (regime and people”
I also like very much your comment “The regime thinks like an occupier – if only we dry out the sources of funding and fighters, we will win the war…”
Please keep your posts coming.
May 17th, 2015, 10:44 am
Jasmine said:
Syria lover @136
Once again the Syrian army was well prepared for the monstrosity of ISIS,and the last episode of Palmyra prove them right again,Palmyra is free from ISIS.
Well done
May 17th, 2015, 1:00 pm
Hopeful said:
#142 Jasmine
Between ISIS and the Syrian army, I would support the army any day! I bet all the Syrian rebels would do too if instead of worrying about protecting the regime it goes after ISIS full force!
May 17th, 2015, 3:35 pm
Jasmine said:
Hopeful
Are you joking?
Do we know who are the rebels now?
Do we know who Damascus can trust?
It is not simple and I know that you know it.
May 17th, 2015, 4:10 pm
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