“Assad Regime May Well Survive to 2014”

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Reve is rejoicing,

Just like the Nazis called their dictatorship the “Third Reich” or the “Thousand year Reich” it lasted only 12 years, although that already was way too long.

However, more seasoned pundits think otherwise,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/01/03/258472.html

And I have been told that Landis made more ridiculous and laughable predictions in the past that turned out soooooooooooooo embarassing.

HAHA funny headline!!!
what happened to all the Mr.O declaration that Assad regime on death bed!
is it the USA assessment all wrong or it is all intenial propaganda per the state department and others.
Assad if he survives to 2014 then it must a game being played by the super powers; it is called ” kill more jihadists in Syria”
but the problem that it is at the expense of the innocent syrians this time not the Isralis or the americans.
it is just a shift of the battle ground from Iraq, afghanistan to Syria.
keep them coming that’s what the game is!.

May I respectfully disagree with the assertion that the regime maintains a healthy fighting morale (in the technical meaning of the word, that is its mission capability)?

From what we could see, it is resorting to barrel bombs instead of standard military armaments, there are continuous defections from low morale, hundreds of thousands of Sunnis are not attending military service, and I am sure there are many more detrimental factors that are hidden. The more erudite will surely add to this more concrete examples. Anyone who has ever participated in a strategic simulation will know, that his side will always appear weaker, more hollow, and his opponent stronger, simply because he hasn’t got the full idea of enemy’s obscured defects – and the regime maintains heavy media regulations. By contrast, the rebels can not regulate media, thereby exposing all their strategic weaknesses.

I do not think the regime is about the crumble – there are no signs of that. But I would hesitate to call it fully armed and fully cohesive, maintaining full mission capability. The defectors, who remain numerous, clearly present a different, gloomy outlook, and although they might be attempting to ingratiate themselves to their newfound allegiances, I would not underestimate the extent of sincerity of their sentiment.

My prediction is that as the civil war will grind on and the economy will continue to plummet, the disruptions of daily life growing greater, so too will the government weaken, as its lifeblood will be drawn. Regrettably, that life blood belongs to Syria.

“I’ll tell him committed to what I said repeatedly, that U.S. policy must be based on respect for human rights for people, everywhere.”

I’d have liked it, if “SYRIA DEEPLY” had asked Michel Kilo to be more specific and say what he had meant by the above answer in practice.

Dear Dr. Landis,
you claim that: “nobody in the opposition today can explain how they’re going to win”. My question to you is: isn’t this the case in every revolution?. When people rise up against their government, what guarantees their success? In logical terms, it is a crazy undertaking, yet over and over again it succeeds and tyrants are defeated. How, you ask, they are going to win, I say read more history, it tends to repeat itself, lest you think that Syria is truly such a unique situation like some claim.

I believe there will be some form of intervention. Assad won’t make it to 2014.

Can’t envisage the exact scenario at the moment. Expecting planes from a ‘friendly power’ to intervene. If there is to be intervention then I hope it is Turkey.

Mr. Landis is probably right. It will take time.

As I’ve said before, Assad and his regime can hold Damascus for 6 months, maybe a year. But can they do it for 2 years, five years, ten years? The problem for the regime is that it’s politically dead. No one will negotiate with it. It can hang on for a while, but it cannot win, nor can it negotiate an end to the war.

The only thing the regime is capable of doing is to cause more destruction and death.

Outrageous prediction, a year from now if he is still alive ,he will survive in Jail,waiting for his execution,Things are very bad in Syria,
he lost 146 plane,he will lose another 300 in the next year,
he will not control Syria,may be he will survive in Qurdaha only
in another year another 300,000 Syrian will be dead,
where is he going to get gas and oil from,and food to feed people in Damascus,how is he going to finance such war?
anyone who thinks that things will be the same as it is now is out of his mind
Previous correct predictions never guarantees correct future predictions.
Do you remember when you said Syria will not have Arab spring?

Zoo, I think your fears are legitimate, but I also think you did answer the second part of my question. Assad had made sure that the army and security will collapse if he is gone. He made sure his supporters believe that without him, they will be massacred. This is dictatorship 101. If he loved his country, he would have, by now, recognized how divided the country is because of him, and he would have implemented a succession plan which would not include him at the center.

Zoo, your fears may or may not materialize, but it is a risk worth taking for the sake of a better future for Syria.

Israel in secret talks with rebels
http://gulftoday.ae/portal/3ae4031a-9065-42e8-ae67-9959d25040b0.aspx?
AMMAN: Israel is in secret talks with Syrian rebels to help find the remains of an executed Israeli spy and prepare for an operation, Al Quds Al Arabi reports.

The report said Israeli officials held talks in Jordan with Syrian opposition officials in advance of a possible Israeli-US operation in Syria to protect the Golan Heights.

Discussions also focused on finding Eli Cohen’s remains the paper said.

The Jordanians were aware of the meeting with dissident Syrian commanders, the paper reported on Monday. No further details were released.

Cohen considered one of Israel’s greatest spies, infiltrated the highest levels of Syrian government in the 1960s, and regularly transferred information to his handlers in Israel.

Some of the information is said to have contributed to Israel’s victory in the 1967 Six Days War.

In 1965, Cohen was caught transmitting information to Israel and was tried and found guilty of espionage.

He was publicly executed in Damascus later.

Separately, a Reuters television cameraman was shot in the leg and wounded while filming on the front line in Syria’s northern city of Aleppo on Monday.

Ayman Al Sahili, a Libyan citizen working as part of a Reuters multi-media reporting team, was hit by a rifle bullet fired from a distance.

He was treated in Syria and then driven across the border to Turkey. His life was not in danger.

Syria was by far the most dangerous country for journalists in 2012, with 28 killed there during the year according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, a watchdog group.

Hopeful

“Assad had made sure that the army and security will collapse if he is gone. He made sure his supporters believe that without him, t hey will be massacred.”

If he did that, than unlike Qaddafi and Mobarak, he is a genius and a real powerful person to convince the majority of Syrians that he is indispensable. I don’t think he is.

Contrary to you, I believe it is the incompetence of the expats opposition who, instead of encouraging demonstrations even if they turned bloody, pushed them into military confrontation under the pretext of ‘protecting’ the civilians while they demonstrate.
The squabbling of the SNC and its heavy reliance on Qatar and KSA that most of Syrians have always despised, made most of the loyal to Bashar even more loyal. He did not have the propaganda means of convincing them as it is widely admitted that with the Al Jazeera, Al Arabya, the army of western trained youtubers and the powerful well funded dwestern propaganda, the Syrian government’s minor propaganda was insignificant.
The irony is that, according to published report, most of the death came in 2012 after the opposition chose to arm themselves with the help of the war monger Qatar to ‘protect’ the civilians. It seems that is this ill-fate strategy is responsible for 90% of the death.
Not only the armed rebels did not ‘protect’ civilians but they exposed them to violence and destruction that they imposed on them by using them as human shields and hiding among them.
Many started to have doubts about that choice that was bringing their houses on their head. So the rebels changed their tune. It was not about ‘protection’ of demonstrations but actively participating in ‘religious war’ in the fight against’ evil’ even in martyrdom.
Bashar did not have to do much to show what will happen after he is gone or to create anxiety, the opposition took care of that.

Hopeful

I wish the activists had attended “Revolution 101” instead of trying to imitate Libya and improvise a revolution with the help of Saudi and Qatari “amateurs”

It is certainly not a risk to take when there is another solution that may save lives.

REF Comment #13

Zoo said,

If he did that, than unlike Qaddafi and Mobarak, he is a genius and a real powerful person to convince the majority of Syrians that he is indispensable. I don’t think he is.”

So Zoo thinks he is smarter than majority of Syrians. However, he doesn’t want to admit that the majority of Syrians think the opposite. They think Bashar is dispensable and should be executed. While they also think that Zoo thinks Bashar is indispensable and must be prethident 4ever.

Zoo is a seasoned LIAR

Zoo also said,

“The squabbling of the SNC and its heavy reliance on Qatar and KSA that most of Syrians have always despised made most of the loyal to Bashar even more loyal.”,

Zoo is again lying,

Most Syrians LOVE KSA and QATAR. It is only he and few renegades who love mullah-stan and hate Qatar and KSA. Also, it is only he and few renegades who are loyal to mullah-stan and to Assadistan

Zoo is a seasoned LIAR.

Zoo also said,

“This ill-fate strategy is responsible for 90% of the death according to published report.
Not only the armed rebels did not ‘protect’ civilians but they exposed them to a violence that they imposed on them by using them as human shields and hiding behind them.”

Zoo is a liar. It is Bashar and his army of thugs which is killing the Syrians who support the FSA and consider it the legitimate army of Syria, as we all know only Bashar uses air force and fuel-filled barrels to target civilians.

Zoo is a seasoned LIAR.

Zoo also said,

“How can any one who had doubts would ever adhere to an organization who made a choice that brought their houses on their head instead of ‘protecting’ them..
Bashar did not have to do much to show what will happen after he is gone or to create anxiety, the opposition took care of that.”

Zoo is a liar.

It is bashar the criminal who made a choice to kill Syrians because they refused to obey his thugocracy. It is Bashar who continues to bring more houses down on their inhabitants because he is a serial killer who came to this world for the only purpose of killing and destruction. People have no anxiety whatsoever when they get rid of such serial pathetic criminal killer.

ZOO IS A PATHETIC SEASONED LIAR

I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER ZOO AS A SLAVE FOR SALE IN AN AUCTION AT HALF PRICE AS I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS THREAD, BECAUSE HE THINKS I AM HIS DAD!!!

Visitor

Thanks, I expected such an explosion of insults in uppercase: Truth hurts.
Watch the blood clot..

REF Comment 16

Zoo also said,

“Truth hurts.
Watch the blood clot..”

Zoo is a seasoned LIAR.

While the truth does hurt to truthful people, he’s in fact not hurt when he faces the truth that he is a seasoned LIAR.

He may, however, have to watch the blood clot, because now every one knows he is a seasoned LIAR and there are less people to believe his LIES. So he must go and see a doctor before we start the auction, in order to avoid disappointing potential buyers

the syrian govt led by president assad will continue until 2014.

elections will be held.

president assad will receive minimum 68% of the popular votes of the syrian people who will be telling the jewish west to stick it up their asses.

… of course the jewish west is the biggest ass in the universe.

@ 13. zoo

To say that the opposition is responsible for civilian deaths, because it has armed the civilians to protect themselves from shabiha massacring the peaceful demonstrations is absolutely outrageous. It is the same old lie that Gaddafi apologists fed the world. Contrary to your opinion, Zoo, violence does not start when the victim defends itself. The regime is responsible for killing the protesters. They are the ones shelling the bakeries. They are the ones who shelled the petrol station. Zoo, your morals are at the level of a rapist who says his victim had it coming.

Well, Zoo, I’m glad you expect the insults.

Because that’s what you’re going to get from now on.

Zoo, it is the general consensus of most of the people on this forum that you are a troll/idiot. As I’ve said before, one cannot negotiate with a regime supporter, real or otherwise.

Obama said:It wasn’t my fault that Syria is in chaos now,I was only trying to help my friend Israel and I didn’t mean to kill 60000 human when I sent all the arms and satellite phones to the rebels through my friends Qatar and SA,Although I did expect the destruction of the infrastructure and the collapse of the economy and the killing,and of course the refugees.
Now Iran took a good lesson and has softened it’s attitude,I can declare now that my mission is accomplished.
So you can keep your president Assad till 2014.

Zoozoo is lier,every body knows that.

Friday is going to witness the begining of Iraq spring, it will combine Sunni and Shiite Arab, Maliki must leave,hopefully before Bashar,changes in Iraq will expedite Bashar death

Following the exchanges between Hopeful and ZOO, I am reminded of the confident and assertive Bashar Assad in various interviews from the past crisis years.

Is it an issue, a real issue, the ability of Assad to hold together the armed forces (and the allied militias and home guards and neighbourhood enforcers of the clan)? Can Syria only make it to 2014 with this particular man on the throne?

I don’t know. ZOO may have it right, that only Assad can hold the various parts of a functioning state together, today and tomorrow. But I don’t understand how a state can be so fragile that it requires one man and one man only to keep it together.

That confident Assad in the Walters (and in other exchanges) said some things for which he was assailed (by the usual suspects): he corrected Walters when she began a question with “Your army …”

What did he reply, again? It was something like “It’s not my army …”

Similarly, he has in each interview patiently pointed out that Syria is a state of laws and institutions. Syria is not dependent on one man. Moreover, that he serves at the pleasure of the Syrian people — that they will decide.

So, a thought experiment: if Assad is correct, and ZOO is wrong — that Syria is a country of strong institutions and law, and that no person is indispensable, then what prevents Assad from stepping down from office?

If Assad stepped down, one of the Vice-Presidents would step into office. If the hundred-year-old lady, so be it. If Shara’a, so be it.

If Assad were defeated in his first real election challenge (having been appointed to every single position of power unopposed) as President (in 2014), then a new person steps into office.

How could that person (if it is not Assad) possibly get the government and army and air force and shabiha militia and home guards to obey him?**

I don’t know if ZOO truly believes only Assad can hold together the security forces that provide his actual power. This is his line, but it does not give us any confidence that a new President could carry on the autocracy.

Assad forever? Until the country is ‘stable’? Until all the ‘terrorists’ are killed or jailed?

In the end, perhaps Assad prevaricated and there is more than a grain of truth in ZOO’s assertions that only an Assad can command the state organs of power.

This of course would expose as utter BS any claim of a state of institutions, and we are back at the beginning (or rather in the middle of civil war).

ZOO, do you ever debate with Assad-supporters? I mean, is there anywhere you would not go in your support of Assad and the current system?

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** The Syrian Constitution sets out an odd process for the nomination of Presidential candidates. No one can simply ‘toss a hat’ in the ring. The ‘ring’ in this case is Parliament. No candidate can be put on a ballot unless Parliament endorses the candidacy (and of course, all Assad opponents with oomph will have spent time in detention on political crimes, which makes them unable to run as candidates at all under the present system).

(as an aside, I know that there are lots of crappy commentators on Syrian affairs. I cannot, offhand, think of anyone less qualified than Stephen Lendman. This is a 9/11 ‘truther’, pure and simple, more stupid than Tony Cartalucci, more illiterate than Webster Tarpley. This nutter is too much even for Russia Today’s corps of bedsit+webcam analysts. ZOO, I know you only post articles for information, not as endorsements, but please, Lendman? Really?)

Totally agree.  Time has come to quit discussing political agreement and instead target a very smart missile to end Batta’s life and rid Syria of her murderer.  
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• A negotiated settlement of the kind being touted by the international envoy Lakhdar Brahimi would prolong the conflict in Syria, according to two leading analysts. In an article in Foreign Affairs magazine, Bilal Saab, executive director at the Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis, and Andrew Tabler, senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, identified four reasons why such a deal would not work. 

1. Rebels are in no mood to negotiate as they sense victory after a long battle.

2. There have been too many “unspeakable atrocities” from both sides to expect either party to trust each other enough to lay down their weapons.

3. The UN couldn’t enforce a settlement.

4. It would be too difficult to broker a diplomatic agreement from rival regional patrons fuelling the current conflict, including Iran.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/138739/bilal-y-saab-and-andrew-j-tabler/no-settlement-in-damascus?page=show

Summery from the Guardian

WSS isn’t a student of history. Often in mankind’s past it came down to one man and one man alone: FDR, JFK, Ataturk, DeGaulle, Gandhi, and so on. Take out the one person and things fall apart.

Fortunately, Syria is a nation and if Assad was assassinated the nation would continue to prevail against her enemies.

Stick to Twitter WSS – anything over 140 characters is almost too many to give you.

Lendman seems rather sober to me. I’ve read crazy conspiracy theory posts (not comments) on this very forum – I’ve read about “FSA victories” and heard about the “last stand in Tartus” etc. Compared to all of that Lendman comes out smelling like a rose.

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New UN Report on Syria
by Stephen Lendman

On January 2, the UN News Center headlined “Data suggests death toll could be more than 60,000, says UN human rights office.”

The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) commissioned the analysis. It covers the March 15, 2011 – November 30, 2012 period.

It’s impossible to compile precise figures. Analysis depends on methodology and sources used. Bias corrupts findings.

UN Human Rights Council High Commissioner Navi Pillay long ago fell from grace. Like Ban Ki-moon, Kofi Annan, and Lakhdar Brahimi, she’s a reliable imperial partner.

Her previous reports on Syria expressed one-sided anti-Assad sentiment. She part of the conspiracy to replace him with a pro-Western puppet.

Whatever she reports is suspect. Credibility on Syria isn’t her long suit. She spurned her mandate. Instead of responsibly “strengthening the promotion and protection of human rights,” she defiled them in deference to Western interests.

Throughout the conflict, she pointed fingers the wrong way. She ignored Western-sponsored massacres and other atrocities. She blames Assad, not foreign death squads.

Syria is Washington’s war. It’s being ravaged and destroyed. Assad responsibly confronts invaders. He’s obligated to protect his people. He’s blamed for insurgent killings and atrocities. Pillay, like Western scoundrels, points fingers the wrong way.

“Given there has been no let-up in the conflict since the end of November, we can assume that more than 60,000 people have been killed by the beginning of 2013,” she said.

She believes 60,000 way underestimates true totals. She admits new data fall short of definitive analysis. Conflict complexities prevent accuracy.

Once peace is restored, she hopes further investigations will better reveal body count totals. Instead of blaming Washington, key NATO partners, rogue regional allies, and foreign invaders, she holds Assad accountable for doing his job responsibly.

“This massive loss of life could have been avoided if the Syrian Government had chosen to take a different path than one of ruthless suppression of what were initially peaceful and legitimate protests by unarmed civilians,” she claimed.

Millions of Syrians are displaced. Humanitarian crisis conditions exist. She partly admits insurgent responsibility. Overwhelmingly she points fingers the wrong way.

“Cities, towns and villages have been, and are continuing to be, devastated by aerial attacks, shelling, tank fire, bomb attacks and street-to-street fighting,” she said.

She blames Assad for “massive scale” killing. She ignores what most needs explaining. Conflict would stop straightaway if Washington called off its dogs.

The obvious goes unmentioned. Self-defense is called aggression. Truth is turned on its head. She blames Security Council inaction. So far, Russia and China alone prevented full-scale NATO intervention.

Libya 2.0 hasn’t happened. In early 2013, it looms. Security Council authorization will be circumvented. NATO intervened belligerently against Yugoslavia without it. Imperial powers spurn rule of law principles.

So do reliable human rights partners. Pillay practically begs for intervention. “Where is the international community,” she asks? “Why aren’t (world leaders) acting to stop this slaughter?”

Current body counts will pale compared to numbers if NATO intervenes. Hundreds of thousands could die. Multiples more could be injured and displaced. Pillay mindlessly ignores what she should deplore.

On January 2, Press TV headlined “Foreign-backed militants attack hospital in Damascus countryside,” saying:

Harasta Hospital was targeted. Casualties and damage isn’t known.

“There are also reports of fresh clashes between the two sides in some other parts of the country, including the northern city of Idlib, where the government forces confronted militants near the Taftanaz military airport.”

Insurgents attacked Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp before. On January 1, they did again. At least 10 deaths were reported. A car bomb injured many more. Foreign terrorists bear full responsibility.

“According to sources inside Yarmouk, there were also deadly clashes between members of the terrorist Free Syrian Army and the al-Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front inside the camp. Armed men affiliated to the al-Nusra Front have reportedly killed a number of Palestinian civilians there.”

Thierry Meyssan says “reality on the ground has turned around completely.” Free Syrian Army (FSA) elements are being routed.

“The truth is that on the ground the upper hand is held by the Syrian government. The military situation has been reversed.”

French reports stopped mentioning “liberated zones.” They’re steadily shrinking. Disreputable Salafists and other Islamofacists hold fewer areas.

FSA fighters have no popular support. Extremist elements are hated. Meyssan believes strategically “the war is already over.” The fullness of time will have final say.

Meanwhile fighting rages. Dozens or hundreds die daily. On December 31, the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) headlined “General Command of the Army: The Armed Forces Continue Operations Against the Terrorist Groups,” saying:

Terrorist forces are being effectively confronted.

“In Aleppo, armed terrorist groups of Jabhet al-Nusra and NATO mercenaries tried to attack an air-defense battalion in Tal Hasel in al-Sfeira using rockets, mortars and machineguns.”

“Our Armed Forces confronted them and foiled the attempt, killing and wounding large numbers of terrorists and destroying their weapons.”

Aleppo International Airport areas are being cleared. Large numbers of terrorist elements were killed or wounded. Their weapons and ammunition were seized.

“In Hama, our Armed Forces completely controlled Morek town and the international highway and dismantled more than 150 explosive devices.”

Deir B’albeh neighborhood in Homs, Daraya outside Damascus, and other areas are also controlled.

On January 2, the Free Syrian Press issued similar reports. Routing terrorists from suburban Damascus was discussed.

Voice of Russia headlined “Syrian troops chasing militants near Damascus.” Terrorist strongholds were destroyed. Dozens of foreign mercenaries were killed.

Heavy clashes continue. Syrian troops repelled insurgent invaders from Jordan. Border police seized large caches of weapons.

Some were Israeli made. Israel’s been involved in arming invaders for months.

On January 1, Mossad-connected DEBKAfile (DF) headlined “IDF and Syrian rebel officers meet clandestinely in Jordan,” saying:

Secret talks preceded “possible Israeli-US operation(s) in Syria to protect the Golan Heights.” DF cited unnamed Western intelligence reports.

They suggest “nightly clashes taking place between US, Jordanian, Israeli special forces and Syrian rebels, on the one hand, and Syrian special forces, on the other.”

They’re jockeying for control of “buffer strips.” They want “their opposite numbers (prevented) from establishing intelligence gathering posts there.”

Jordan’s military is training insurgent forces. US, UK, French, Czech, and Polish military instructors are involved.

“Extensive preparations are secretly afoot by US special forces, the IDF, and the Turkish and Jordanian armies.”

They’re “ready(ing) for President Bashar Assad to hand down the order to his army chiefs to launch a chemical war offensive on the military concentrations of Syrian rebels and their allies in the lands neighboring on Syria.”

Claiming it is fear-mongering propaganda. Syrian forces have no intention of using chemical or other banned weapons. Washington and Israel prioritize them.

False flag attacks may be planned. Further updates will report more.

REVENIRE, are you sure about this?

Often in mankind’s past it came down to one man and one man alone: FDR, JFK, Ataturk, DeGaulle, Gandhi, and so on. Take out the one person and things fall apart.

If you style yourself a student of history, then perhaps you can expand on your analysis.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt died in office. Harry Truman took over

JFK was assassinated. Lyndon Johnson took office immediately.

DeGaulle resigned from the French presidency in 1969. He was succeeded by Alain Poher (temporarily) until Georges Pompidou was elected.

Ataturk died in office in 1938. He was succeeded by ?smet ?nönü, who was president till 1950.

Ghandi held no office in India. He was assassinated in 1948.

All these people were ‘taken out,’ Revenire, but things did not ‘fall apart.’

Now, should you wish to show us here your grasp of history, great. You will have to start again, however, and make reference to reality. Not your strong suit, I realize, but hey.

Tara
That article is good one,Security for the Alawite is necessary, but justice has to be done,for those who committed crimes ,killing,rape,or stole money, but the Alawites as a community has to have a guarantees they will not get punished, that is why I advocated some Alawis overthrow Bashar,what we see is that the Alawis are 80-90% are very loyal to Assad,it is not fear of revenge,it is tribal blind loyalty, and in that they are going to be punished for that,I wish they see where their interest is,they don’t,however we should go one step ahead of them and try to assure them we will not harm them.
saying that I don’t believe there will be wide spread revenge, The american revolution was not followed by such revenge, it was short time after the end of the civil war when US had southern president,and the french revolution was not followed by wide spread revenge,however Russian revolution did have revenge,so we should expect revenge 50%.
What will make revenge most likely is prolong war ,prolonged revolution,as more people will die, what should we do to the Assad troops,defending him and bombing civilians,there is more than 70,000 Alawis in his army,should we punish them all?.the only thing I expect is in a long war,those soldiers will get killed in battles,so there would not be revenge after the war. civil war will assure that.

Yeah WSS I am positive about the role of one man in history – be it a war, a revolution or a scientific discovery. You eliminate one man and things change. Isn’t this the entire idea of the fake revolution you promote on Twitter and elsewhere? One man? I apologize but I see the name “Assad” over and over as if this one man is the entire problem.

You’re not a strategist but a person who supports terrorism. The first one is a noble goal few achieve, the second one anyone can do.

Majed,

I am surprised that some “pundits” still see that a political settlement is possible. I think, as the article says, after the 60,000 and up death, the unspeakable atrocities, the lack of trust, the sacrifices, and the perceived sense of rebels victory that calling for political negotiation would only prolong the civil war. If the west wants to save Syrian lives, the west should help the rebels in getting decisive victory fast.

Read this piece of “analysis” and let me know if you get dizzy or not,I really tried to get a clear consistent message out of that paragraph but I could not, this usually happens when a person says something he believes in mixed with another that he just has to say because he does not want to look as a person who advocates violence and sectarian cleansing:

“the Alawis are 80-90% are very loyal to Assad,it is not fear of revenge,it is tribal blind loyalty, and in that they are going to be punished for that,I wish they see where their interest is,they don’t,however we should go one step ahead of them and try to assure them we will not harm them.
saying that I don’t believe there will be wide spread revenge”

I think we all can agree that an educated person who lived for decades in the US should be able to write a paragraph in decent English, if that is not possible,what about writing posts in Arabic?

As the “devil you know”, Bashar has the advantage and staying power.

While Landis continues to make absurd predictions, the FSA continues to achieve milestone after milestone, while criminal head of thugocracy recedes to obscurity,

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/01/04/258517.html

Only stone heads believe in FSA criminals imaginary milestones:

The mysterious entity REVENIRE digs deeper:

I am positive about the role of one man in history – be it a war, a revolution or a scientific discovery. You eliminate one man and things change.

Not what you previously asserted. ‘Things change’ is different from ‘things fall apart.’

Often in mankind’s past it came down to one man and one man alone: FDR, JFK, Ataturk, DeGaulle, Gandhi, and so on. Take out the one person and things fall apart.

I guess you are new to sustained argument — and consistency.

Your assertions were falsified. Your examples did not support your point.

Are we to understand by your Twitter mention that you are a Twitter user yourself? If so, I look forward to your struggle to navigate history, should you let us know your handle.

Of course, few here would expect you to do that.

A Zoo consortium? Paranoid a little? There are pills for that.

https://twitter.com/SyriansRISE_UP/status/281949782526816257

“20 Dec
SyriansRISE_UP ?@SyriansRISE_UP
@wsscherk Note that they are not all the same person, Posts in July are from someone else
20 Dec
William Scott Scherk ?@wsscherk
@SyriansRISE_UP — I have long suspected that ZOO was part of a kind of consortium.”

I find it strange how WSS and RISE UP are both in Canada but spend their days tweeting about Syria. Did Canada list al-Nusra as a terrorist org like the US did?

I’m astonished how many people fail to understand that all of the belligerents in a war bear responsibility for the evils and losses of that war. “But they started it!” is a childish excuse, that has no place in such a serious matter.

An unwillingness to take responsibility for their own warmaking is a bad sign in any group who would claim the right to govern.

It is obvious to me that both the government and rebel sides must retain considerable public support. If either side had failed to retain considerable public support, that side would already have collapsed by now, because all factions in the war have encountered a great deal of real adversity.

A new video out today, it is not very gory( if senstive ZOO like to watch) but it dose have a field execution, witch is horrible, but the unarmed young man did die quickly with a fast machine gun, what is new with this new vedio is that the officer telld everybody to quiet down and wait,
Because he want to call his mom while doing the execution.!
After he got the blessing from his Mom and her regards to his commrds, he
Shoot the young man while his mom on the phone egging him on
Worning the clip has tons of volger language and the usuall God cursing that Alawaits shabiha are known for
http://youtu.be/vy6GoikPD_U

WSS you can try to parse words of mine all you like but one man can change history and when you remove one man things fall apart.

Change – fall apart – succeed – fail – etc.

It’s not so hard to understand.

Your entire thing is “Assad Assad Assad Assad” and if he was gone we could all eat ice cream with Tara in Damascus.

That sort of proves my point for me.

The Japanese thrillseeker may represent a classic case of ennui in a decadent society. I wonder if at some point he will decide to take up arms, as a genuine soldier of fortune.

However, I have never seen a life insurance policy that is not voided by claims originating from war or insurrection!

A Mig, a Hilocapto, few tanks were shot down and destroyed today, you can watch all the vedios on aksalsir site
https://m.facebook.com/aksalser.web.offcial?id=235395973220945&_rdr

Tara,

War is politics. A negotiated solution is almost always possible, and especially when all parties have some strength remaining.

As the sayiing goes, you don’t make peace with your friends. Peace gets made with your enemies, i.e. the people who have been trying their best to kill you, your friends, your neighbours, and your family.

The most useful role for foreigners is not as intervenors, which would really only add an additional, compounding, dimension to the war. Foreigners would serve better in hosting talks, as guarantors of peace, and in providing safe harbour for exiles.

It’s up to people in Syria to decide how much killing they want to do. It’s their country, their war, and their history.

We don’t know Brahimi plan,it is still secret, and while he told Bashar about it the opposition seems not to know his plan yet, how could he market it? he must be depending on US and Russia to apply pressure on both sides, they both have different interests and agendas,still the most important side is the Syrian people,they demand freedom and dignity, and now justice for the crimes that are committed by this regime,

Ronald,

Can you say that to the mother of Hamza Al Kateeb after she sacrificed 3 other children, an arm, and a leg for the revolution? How about the father of the headless little girl? Could you have possibly said to the US to make peace with alQaeda in the eve of 9/11? Or even better, would it be possible for the Jews to have made a compromise with Hitler?

Best photo of 2012

http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/2012/12/best-photos-of-2012-and-why-from-syria-to-the-new-york-harbor/

If I had to commit, I’d vouch for this image as my photo of the year. Why? Part of it has to do with the respectful and dignified way it depicts the fallen rebel fighter
,,,,,,

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A solution in Syria does require the departure of Assad

The Allies in WWII pushed for unconditional surrender. At some point one side has committed so many atrocities that the other side will never negotiate. The situation in Syria has reached that point.

The regime has done so many brutalities that it has committed political suicide. Its opponents will not negotiate with it, and rightfully so. The regime is now in an endless war against a determined, and resourceful foe, who happens to represent the majority of the country’s population.

As I’ve said before, it can hold Damascus for 6 months, maybe a year. But the FSA will not stop. Can they hold it for 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? How many Alawites are willing to die to hold Damascus?

Calm down. Deep breaths. Damascus is fine and a long way from being under siege by a few Salafist apes.

Are you off your medication again, Revenire?

Didn’t your psychiatrist tell you to stay on the medication program? Is this what you do in your free time when you aren’t on your meds?

Revenire, stick to your medication program. Your doctors are smarter than you. They give good advice. You should listen to them. I’m saying this for your own good.

Syria ‘would not join Iran in war against Israel’
Iran’s ability to retaliate for any Israeli strike on its nuclear facilities has been “dramatically” reduced by the disintegration of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria, an Israeli intelligence report has said.
( one of the objectives of Syria’s war even if some people deny it)

Rebels appear to retaliate for Mleiha air bombing with a car bomb in a Damascus petrol station.

Mleiha gas station: 12 death

In the town of Mleha, just east of Damascus, bodies were being recovered from a service station hit by a regime air strike on Wednesday.
The Observatory said at least 12 bodies were recovered, several of them rebels.

Damascus petrol station car bomb : 11 death

At least 11 people were killed and 40 wounded when a car bomb exploded at a crowded petrol station in the Syrian capital Damascus on Thursday (NZT Friday), opposition activists said.

The station was packed with people queuing for fuel that has become increasingly scarce during the country’s 21-month-long insurgency aimed at overthrowing President Bashar al-Assad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WA7rDMphILA
These people are not worried about revenge,they act because of loyalty to Assad

What comes around, goes around.

The UN-RUSSIA-US plan moving to next stage: Carrots and Sticks.

New US-Russia talks on Syria possible next week

http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-us-russia-talks-on-syria-possible-next-week/

UN Security Council president says envoy Lakhdar Brahimi is trying to pave the way for a diplomatic breakthrough
January 4, 2013, 2:50 am 0

NITED NATIONS (AP) — The president of the U.N. Security Council said Thursday there are important developments in efforts to find a diplomatic solution to the 21-month war in Syria and there could be another U.S.-Russia meeting with international envoy Lakhdar Brahimi next week.

Pakistan’s U.N. Ambassador Masood Khan told a news conference that Brahimi is trying to pave the way for a diplomatic breakthrough and plans to follow up talks in Moscow last Saturday with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with new three-way talks.

Brahimi and Lavrov both said after their meeting that the Syrian conflict can only be settled through talks, while admitting that the government and the opposition have shown no desire for compromise. Neither official hinted at a possible solution that would persuade the two sides to agree to a ceasefire and sit down for talks about a political transition.
….

HOW TO DEFEND A REGIME CHANGE BY NATO/GCC and BRAND IT AS A “SYRIAN REVOLUTION” in 13 EASY STEPS

1. Use peaceful protests as a political cover for armed militants who actively ambushed, attacked and killed security and army personnel, as well as civilians, in cold blood.

2. When such attacks could no longer be ignored (example the massacre of Jisr al Shogour in JUNE 2011), accuse the regime of “executing” its own forces for “refusing to kill peaceful protesters”

3. When counting battles casualties, make sure armed militants are ALL listed as “civilians” with NO mainstream media journalists to challenge such an absurd and bizarre claim!

4. Promote “Rami Abdul Rahman” of the SOHR (who counts the Syrian casualties when he’s not serving customers in his little shop in London) as a “credible and reliable” source whose figures should be quoted by “investigative” Western journalists around the World!!

5. When it becomes impossible to hide the work of armed militant groups (referred to as “peaceful protesters” in MSM) and the huge amounts of weapons smuggled into Syria, you can always grant them legitimacy by setting up a “Free Syria Army” and claiming “most” armed militants are “defectors” in their “thousands”…

6. Grant the terrorists (who have been operating in Syria since December 2011) a political cover by accusing the regime of being behind the suicide bombings which killed many innocent civilians.

7. When Jabhat al Nusra claims responsibility for those terrorist attacks, make sure Syria news coverage stay focused on the “crimes” committed by the Syrian regime- to avoid making a condemnation of any group associated with the “FSA”- if necessary, disassociate links with such groups and list them as terrorist organisations..

8. When crimes against humanity that are committed by the “FSA” can no longer be dismissed or ignored, make sure you mention their “rarity” or blame “extremists” for them while painting a picture of a “moderate and secular FSA” even when it’s impossible to provide evidence for such claim!

9. Boycott ALL calls for national dialogue and reconciliation, blame the violence solely on the Syrian Government and promote this armed struggle for power that is led by the most oppressive and corrupt regimes in the World (and their NATO masters) as a “popular Syrian revolution”.

10. Promote democracy in Syria (and in the ME) as the rule of the “majority sect” rather than the rule of the ELECTORAL majority to guarantee a rooted sectarian divide and a culture of hatred and revenge that can destroy Syria.

11. Subject the Syrian people to violence by funding, arming and training opposition groups and foreign Jihadists and apply economic sanctions against them, then speak in their name by recognising the Doha Coalition as their sole and legitimate representative. Deny them the right to have THEIR say by presenting the removal of President Assad (who is seen by many Syrians as a symbol of secular and Independent Syria) as the magic solution of the Syrian crisis!!

12. Make sure you use the humanitarian suffering of Syrians (especially the refugees) as a justification for supporting a regime change and a foreign military intervention rather than a justification for a peaceful solution.

13. Intimidate, threaten and accuse those who don’t approve of the armed struggle against the Government of being “Shabiha”- silencing the Syrian people is the first step the opposition is taking in order to establish the “New Free Syria”.

Erdogan is a hybrid of an Ottoman pasha and Vladimir Putin

Michael Weiss
January 3, 2013
https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/commentaryanalysis/pasha_erdogan

Say what you want, Revenire, but almost everyone on this blog thinks you’re a nut-case.

Every post that you make only reinforces our opinion that regime supporters are either stupid or crazy, or both, which is an accurate description of you.

Once again, I’m always amused when regime supporters complain about international law. It’s not as if the regime or Assad follows international law. What right does the regime have to complain when others break international law to commit atrocities against it?

51 ZOO
Hitting gas line and bread lines are the regime specialty, if you have the stomach to watch the regime vedio of the station, you’ll see how bad it was staged, it is as if the counterpart of Reve. And Ann in Damascus made the montage and the direction of it
http://youtu.be/JX1C1PggiiU
Had the FSA really wanted to do such a bombing they did not have to go more than half
a mile to the neighborhood of A’osh Alwarar that is vey famous for its Shabihs and do it there

57. MARIGOLDRAN

“Say what you want, Revenire, but almost everyone on this blog thinks you’re a nut-case”

I disagree. I think he’s a perfectly normal Syrian: moody, disagreeable, mean-spirited, hostile, vengeful, violent, illiterate…I could go on, but what would be the point?

There is no excuse for detonating car bombs in residential areas, it only increases public despair and does not improve one’s party chance of winning support or defeating the other side. Once car bombs become an acceptable way of combat they never stop, just look at Iraq and Pakistan/ Afghanistan . One thing in common among all stories of car bombs from east to west:
Car bombs are Islamist terrorists preferred weapon.
Blaming almukhabarat for car bombs provides a quick answer to accusations aginst rebels but that answer stinks not because almukhabarat is the good guy in the conflict but becuse they have no interest in making life harder in areas they control and looking weak and unable to protect the people under their rule.
Those bombs are the frustrated terrorists cry for help since their campaign in Damascus is not going very well. the FSA should have a clear position against this terrorist tactic if they want to distance themselves from Jabhat Alnusra, allowing Islamist thugs to take over opposition means the end of the opposition politically and then militarily, you will remember these words later.

# 24 William

I am one of those few people who believed that removing Saddam was the right thing to do for Iraq’s future. I do not want to get into a debate about the incompetency of the US, conspiracies, etc., but I just want to say, that sometimes, the risks involved in doing something big, are worth taking. Iraq is no paradise today, but at least it has a better chance as a country in 20, 50, 100 years from now. The alternative would have been for the Iraqis to live a life of submission and indignity under Saddam, his corrupt boys, an who knows what else.

Imagine what Germany would be like today, had the Nazis stayed in power. Imagine what Europe would be today had the Nazis stayed in power.

Syria has a chance of a better future without the corrupt brutal dictatorial regime it has now. It is impossible for the regime to reform itself. It has to go to allow Syria a better future. These regimes will never go on their own, they need to be pushed. The first few months in the revolution proved that they cannot be pushed peacefully. So Syrians needed help.

Of course the opposition leaders, rebels, revolutionaries, etc., made many mistakes. Of course they are not well organized. Of course they have differences. How could I be otherwise? Everyone was taken by surprise, everyone! This was not a planned and well-organized movement, plotted in the basements of some smart powerful strategists, as Zoo and the regime supporters like to say. This was a random chaotic genuine grassroot uprising from people who were simply fed up with indignity, poverty and living in fear. People who have nothing to lose and are willing to die instead of living miserable lives. People who later decided that there was more dignity in dying while putting up a fight, than dying while carrying a microphone or a sign in a demonstration.

The rats detonating car bombs are cowards. The SAA is hunting them down and eliminating them:

“At Al-Sufeira many rodents were sent to Hell by the SAA. The Rat-Leader of the so-called ‘Martyrs of Izra’a Brigade’ was stir-fried yesterday by a SAA sharpshooter.”

This is what happens to terrorists. Syria has no place for vermin.

AUSTRALIA WARNS CITIZENS AGAINST FIGHTING IN SYRIA
http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/15762331/australia-warns-citizens-against-fighting-in-syria/

SYDNEY (AFP) – Australians who take part in the fighting in Syria face up to 20 years in jail, a spokesman for Foreign Minister Bob Carr said on Friday after a Melbourne man was reportedly killed in the conflict.

The spokesman said the government was aware of reports that more than 100 Australians had engaged in the conflict since 2011 but he had “no evidence” of any citizens currently involved.

Under the Crimes (Foreign Incursions and Recruitment) Act 1978: “A person shall not enter a foreign state with intent to engage in a hostile activity… or engage in a hostile activity in a foreign state.

“Penalty (is) imprisonment for 20 years,” the spokesman said.

“Anyone in Australia who recruits someone to fight overseas faces seven years.”

At least three Australians are reported to have died in Syria, including a Melbourne bricklayer reportedly travelling under the name Abu al-Walid al-Australi and killed last weekend fighting alongside rebels.

Australian Arabic Council founder Joseph Wakim said many people travelling to Syria claimed they were providing humanitarian support to the war-torn nation but were instead involved in the fighting.

“I do believe that for most of these people it is far more a decision of personal conviction than it is of some sort of financial gain,” he told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

He has called for greater vigilance over people travelling to the country.

But Carr said it was very difficult to keep track of people’s movements in Syria.

“It’s a country on the verge of collapse and internal communications are extremely poor,” Carr told the ABC.

“We know… that it is a matter of militia against militia; that local militia control parts of the country and our capacity to know what individual Australians might be doing inside Syria is, of course, extremely limited.”

Australia has been deeply critical of the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and has urged all its citizens to leave Syria, but there are 67 left in the country, mostly dual-nationals who are long-term residents.

@59 JDS
“I disagree. I think he’s a perfectly normal Syrian: moody, disagreeable, mean-spirited, hostile, vengeful, violent, illiterate…I could go on, but what would be the point?”
Why it is as if you’re discribing yourelf,It looks like the dark Syrian force is strong in your gene. It seeped down 3 generation far removed from the Syrian datk side

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((????? ??? ????? ????? ??????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ???? ?????? ???????? ???? ??????? ????? ???? ????????))?
??? ??? ???????? ?? ???? ???? ? .. ???: «????? ?????? ????? ?? ??? ??????» .

Mina, if you are around…

Here are the egyptian women!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151366100750979&set=a.10150227875880979.361081.618015978&type=1&theater

So Chavez is suffering from a severe pneumonia, an spanish newspaper titels that Chavez is in coma, his life depends on machines, at any time the doctors could terminate the live saving machines. Adnan Chavez the brother is on its way to Havana. The world is cruel nowadays for Bashar and his kind.

60 Guffran
“that answer stinks not because almukhabarat is the good guy in the conflict but becuse they have no interest in making life harder in areas they control and looking weak and unable to protect the people under their rule”
If by now you don’t know that doing the logic thing is not in their play book ,then you really don’t know them, or you are letting your extreme objection to Islamist to cloud your judgment

# 60 Ghufran

The regime and Islamists follow the same playbook: terrorize the people into submission. In most societies, it works: most people prefer to live in submission than to be killed.

Well, in Syria, this will not work anymore. I believe that neither the regime nor the Islamists will be able to implement their agendas. It may be a long and bloody war, but the genuine freedom fighters will ultimately prevail (as they did in Iraq when they kicked out both the occupying army and the Alqaeda Islamists, and now they are revolting again to correct a political system that has gone astray).

#68 Hopeful

Gee, do you have a short memory or what?

Does “We are all Jabhat al Nusra now” ring any bell?

Cursing Al Wahash

British Christians: Assad’s accidental friends

While Bashar al-Assad’s Western apologists have traditionally hailed from circles described (or at any rate self-described) as leftist, in recent weeks a new clique of apparatchiks has surfaced from a rather different quarter – the cobwebbed upper crust of British Christian conservatism. A series of reports for such august right-of-center publications as The Telegraph and The Spectator have combined shoddy journalism with vulgar appeals to the tribal emotions of their reactionary Christian readership to dangerously distort the narrative of recent events on the ground in Syria.

https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/newsandpolitics/british_christians_assads_accidental_friends

The Syrian Arab Army is not striking Palestinian refugee camps. Yarmouk was invaded by the rats. The SAA could have leveled the place if they wanted to.

That article is trash.

The great Israeli revolution in Syria.
By Naram Sargon:
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???? ?????? ????????? ????? ????? ?????? ??????? ???????? ??????? .. ?????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??????? ??????? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??? ??????? .. ??? ?????? ??? ????????? ???????? ?????? .. ??? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ????? ?????? .. ??? ???? ??????? ????? “???? ??????” ??? ?? ??? ????? ????? ????? ???? ????? ?? ????? ????? ????? ??? ??????? .. ?????? ???? ??? ???????? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ????? .. ??? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ??????? ??????? .. ?????? ???????? ??????? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?? ??????? ??????? .. ????? ????..

Look who is talking now:

Hezbollah Chief Urges Lebanon to Help in Syrian Crisis

“I call on the Lebanese government to develop its position on the Syrian crisis,” Mr. Nasrallah said, speaking in observance of Arbaeen, the end of a 40-day mourning period for the death of a grandson of the Prophet Muhammad. “Lebanon must exert pressure for a political solution and a political dialogue in Syria. If military operations continue in Syria, it will be a long and bloody battle.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/04/world/middleeast/syria-hezbollah-lebanon-Nasrallah-.html?_r=0

That was the only time this fella was innocent:

https://twitter.com/TarekTamo/status/239056791705632768/photo/1

# 69 Apple_MINI

I refuse to believe that Syrians (and Arabs in general) have only two options: brutal dictatorship or Islamic fundamentalism.

I refuse to listen to the apologists on both sides stating that the alternative is much worst.

90% of Syrians do not belong to either camp. They want freedom and dignity. Unfortunately, the other 10% is not a trivial number. It is 2M people driven by crazy ideologies and are power hungry. They carry guns and they put no value on human lives.

Syria needs to, and will, get rid of both!

I know that the revolutionaries will not allow the Islamists to control their agenda for a simple reason: for every voice condoning their brutal tactics, I hear 10 voices against from within. I cannot say the same about the regime supporters. Every voice from the inside that criticizes the regime’s brutal tactics either ends up in jail or escapes the country.

The opposition is not unified for a simple reason: it has many colors and many shades. The darkest color will not be allowed to determine its agenda. The regime, on the other hand, has a single color: dark ugly black!

Nasrallahs plea for a negotiation process is like Hitler asking for a peace deal in April 1945.

The real question that Dr. Landis should have asked and should have discussed is not whether the regime will last till 2014 or not.

The questions that should be debated are as follows
1. What kind of regime will be in place in 2014?
2. If this regime survives in what country and in what form will it survive?
3. What influence will the regime supporters have if the regime survives? Will Iran come rushing to rebuild? Will Russia supply money and loans and equipment? Will HA and Maliki come to the rescue at that time for a strategy to win the peace?
4. What bridges remain in place for any possible reconciliation and what real reforms are expected?

If Dr. Landis is positing the idea that the regime will survive while continuing to fight in fortresses and in cities and with check points at every corner then I would argue that this is not survival it is a siege.

If the question is to return the clock backwards I would like to ask him how does he think that this is possible.

The speech of HA leader yesterday was interesting for it seems that the tone is one asking for dialogue; it is a tone recognizing that the demands of the people are legitimate; and then there is a threat that the country will be divided and that other countries may also suffer the same fate. In essence the talk is one of preserving some elements of the regime for the alliances and strategic interests of the players and no longer a question of the regime surviving intact as they originally thought.

In Lebanon, the HA leader is asking to avoid conflict and to accept differences. He cannot but support the refugees for otherwise he would lose his moral authority and yet it is a conundrum as hundreds of thousands more are expected to cross next year.

Lebanon will bear the brunt of the crisis and will not get any help as long as HA is in the government.

Once again, this is a God sent crisis for those that would like to exhaust the Iranians and their allies at the expense of the people of Syria. But alas whoever thought that powers have friends they have only interests.

Cheers and Justice for Hamza

A graveyard in Homs

https://twitter.com/NMSyria/status/287133049211215872/photo/1

SYRIAN army in FULL CONTROL of the city of HOMS
http://youtu.be/RNp67pb1G24?t=35s

Mr Landis may be right or wrong, only God knows how long this war will last. I am afraid it will last long, because Assad will fight to the last man.

As a non-Syrian, I think a negotiated settlement is unlikely. Assad made too many massacres, so most Syrians want him dead or in prison. Assad destroyed Syria like Hitler destroyed Europe. Was it possible, let’s say in 1944, to make a deal that a government of national unity is formed in Germany and presidential election held in 1946, with Hitler as one of the candidates?

people of Kafranbel erect an memorial for victims a previous massacre in the city

https://twitter.com/SyrianSmurf/status/287013809636376576/photo/1

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The militants attacked the airfield “Taftanaz” are killed.
In the province of Idleb Syrian army soldiers were killed a large number of terrorists who tried to seize the airfield “Taftanaz.”
In reflection of this attack was also killed by a terrorist, a Turkish national, Abu al-Hureyra Atturki
http://anna-news.info/node/9451

Kafranbel

“I will not remain a refugee…I will return

https://twitter.com/DarthNader/status/287152773240352769/photo/1

Kafranbel
https://twitter.com/SyrianSmurf/status/287172400636903424/photo/1

https://twitter.com/SyrianSmurf/status/287171721579094016/photo/1

In contrast to the astute observations made by Landis and the authors that he has highlighted, some of the comments here seem based on an ignorant and hysterical analysis of the Syrian conflict.

25. Tara said:
“Time has come to quit discussing political agreement and instead target a very smart missile to end Batta’s life and rid Syria of her murderer. ”

2. Juergen said:
“Just like the Nazis…”

Cases in point. It’s an unfortunate trait, predominantly among supporters on one side of the fence.

Chuck Hagel may replace Leon Panette as secretery of defence ,He is intelligent man,and fair minded.Aaron David Miller is a jewish lobby man reflecting Israel goverment support for Assad.
It seems that Syria is Obama Rawanda.
Events in Iraq will get Maliki in trouble,Maliki is a supporter of Assad,just like Hassan Nasrallah,both follow Iran policy.

By the time Brahimi disclose his plan, thousands of Syrian will be dead at the hands of Assad thugs, we are tired of plan after plan ,they all give Assad more time.

Prof. Landis predictions is just predictions, based on what he sees of american policy,it is not based on events on ground.

Our Iraqi brothers have joined the great revolution of the Syrian people as of this Friday. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi patriots poured into the streets of Iraqi cities demanding the end of the thugocracy of Maliki stooge of mullah-stan which in many ways resembles the Assadistan thugocracy, stooge of the same mullahcracy.

http://aljazeera.net/news/pages/c7e9dd17-e854-4115-a28d-bed4bf689872?GoogleStatID=1

The Iraqis and their Syrian brothers are fighting the same battle and as such their fates are entwined. This development will be of utmost benefit to the Syrian revolution and will speed up the downfall of both thugocracies of Syria and Iraq.

No Settlement In Damascus
The Danger of a Negotiated Peace

“Yet after almost two years of bloodletting by the Syrian government, there is little chance that splitting the difference between the factions would end the conflict. Even worse, a negotiated outcome would perpetuate Assad’s favorite strategy — honed over decades — of using the threat of sectarian war to make his adversaries in the international community wary of getting involved. Instead, the end of the Assad regime should be decisive and complete.”

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/138739/bilal-y-saab-and-andrew-j-tabler/no-settlement-in-damascus#cid=soc-twitter-at-snapshot-no_settlement_in_damascus-000000

Juergen,

Nasrallah has been consistent in his call for a political solution to the Syrian crisis; ever since the beginning of it. Check his earlier speeches and interviews.

Nasrallah wants the Lebanese government to open the borders to Syrian refugees?

I thought they are not welcomed in Lebanon! Hunamity struck all of the sudden? I doubt it

U think he is predicting massive refuge of Alawis as he witnesses the victory of the revolution.

?????? ?????? ?????? ???????? ????? ????? ???? ??? ?? ?? ??? ??? ?? ????? ??? ????? ???? ????????? ??????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ????? ??????? ??????.
Rebels lost Aleppo , no mitary gains can change this fact, armed thugs are seen as unwelcome invaders who brought nothing but destruction and misery to Syria’s richest city.

FSA Commandos bust a group looting and passing themselves off as FSA (interesting on a few levels) #Syria

http://youtu.be/m6BDyBX2yd8

Ghufran said
Rebels lost Aleppo
what an idiot.

The Iraq events will tilt things in favor of the Syrian rebels,infact it is not long before we hear Jordanians start their revolution too, Obama is making mistake in not helping Syrian rebels.
Hassan Nassrallah was admired by Syrian, now people redicule him, he is called Hassan Niss Lira

Kafranbel

https://www.facebook.com/qais.fares/posts/184903231652648

JESUS, YOUR SACRIFICE WAS TO SPARE MANKIND, THANK YOU FOR SPARING ASSAD WHO SPARES US A DIGNIFIED LIFE. – OCCUPIED KAFRANBEL

For the record, I never admired Hassan of mullah-stan. I always considered him a thug and a fake.

Since everyone seems to have missed this event, yesterday one of his thugs was killed in Sidon, and of course sent straignt to lowest hell where Hassan will join him shortly, by none other than a member of Nasserites, who are supposed to be his allies.

It seems that evil will eventually consume evil. I wouldn’t be surprised if I hear soon that Alawite thugs are killing Hizbistani or Maliki thugs, and vice versa.

…????? ?? ????

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/jan/04/syria-hezbollah-political-settlement-live
Fog is hampering the attack on Taftanaz,but between defections,and Assad soldiers death,the number of soldiers left inside are getting less, the rebels has the high ground,and it is a matter of time they will be able to take over the airport, it will be the turning point in the history of this revolution,
The way to take over the airport,as one military analyst told me,is to attack it continuously,the inside soldiers will get tired from lack of sleep and they will surrender.

https://twitter.com/THE_47th/status/287219406948409344

55. revenire

Despite the vain insults of the frustrated pakistani islamist extremist on board, I think your list must be distributed to all opposition supporter as part of the course ‘Revolution for the dummies’

Majie

“Fog is hampering the attack on Taftanaz”

Maybe God is having second thoughts?

Visitor

“It seems that evil will eventually consume evil”

It’s already happening between the one thousand and one rebels “brigades” and Al Nusra.

Visitor

“For the record, I never admired Hassan of mullah-stan. I always considered him a thug and a fake.”

I am sure Nasrallah will be affected by this…

great article by DER SPIEGEL reporter Christoph Reuter

Between Syria’s Fronts A Two-Year Travelogue from Hell

Since unrest began in Syria in the spring of 2011, reporting from the country has been difficult. Former contacts are now dead or can’t be located, and the country lies in ruins. Now, amid harrowing conditions, the balance of power appears to have shifted, with rebels beginning to gain the upper hand.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/shift-in-balance-of-power-for-rebels-in-wartorn-syria-a-875423.html

Investigation report stirs media debate over Brotherhood role during Tahrir uprising

Media leaks of a fact-finding enquiry suggest that the Muslim Brotherhood may have been involved in violence during the January Egypt revolution but the Islamist group vehemently denies any involvement

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/61773.aspx

Zoo @99,

I understand that you have to cry ??? three times every day when you wake up.

You cried once in 97, second time in 98 and third time in 99.

OK now go to your mom for your daily suckling.

Chuck Hagel is hated by Israel and the neo-cons. He is not a war monger. He wants a deal with Iran. He is a strong supporter of the UN, he will probably support actively Ibrahimi’s plan in Syria.
I guess the Syrians who are promoted ‘regime change’ by violence are on for a bad surprise, if he is elected

“I’m a strong supporter of the United Nations, I’m a strong supporter of all these coalitions of common interest that we built after WWII, and they’re going to be more important”

Hagel’s biggest problem, though, is Iran.

He wants to see whether a deal between the United States and Iran is possible. Such a deal is the nightmare scenario for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and those around him. They foolishly believe it would endanger Israeli security. In fact, it would do the opposite: reduce the threat from Iran by bringing it into the Middle East security system, rather than pushing it ever further into isolation and anger.

Challenging orthodoxy is a death sentence in Washington. It may result in the demise of Senator Hagel’s prospects. But his willingness to challenge dogma about Iran has deep roots in Nebraska.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/world-report/2013/01/03/chuck-hagel-on-afghanistan-syria-and-china

#103 Visitor

Ok Dad!

102. Juergen

The Moslem Brotherhood criminals? No way! It’s a Mobarak conspiracy to discredit them.

Zoo @105,

The buyer who is now your master-4ever (fullfillment of your most cherished desire: your lov-u-4ever idol dream) agreed to my no-return policy of goods sold.

So what are you talking about?

#58 Syrian

“Hitting gas line and bread lines are the regime specialty”

What are yours?

#107 Visitor

An agreement? that the forbidden word these days…Al Khatib will scold you. Didn’t your hear what he said in Turkey to the refugees in turkish: No agreement until Bashar goes.

@90. ANNIE
“FSA Commandos bust a group looting and passing themselves off as FSA (interesting on a few levels) #Syria
http://youtu.be/m6BDyBX2yd8”

I like how they just happened to have cameras shooting HD video for these guys. Was this shot by Steven Spielberg?

@97. ZOO said:
I can’t take credit for the list. I saw it on Facebook or Twitter. It is pretty good though.

It should be issued to all reporters and I think Landis should make it a post all of its own.

@95. MAJEDKHALDOUN
As Zoo pointed out the “battle of Taftanaz” started back in April of 2012 and victory was announced by the Takiri slime dozens of times. I am sure the SAA left it wide open. It isn’t like they would expect an attack there right? 😀

Most of the FSA victories have been made on Twitter, YouTube and other online nests of rats.

Zoo @109,

What agreement?

As far as I am concerned I was talking in 107 about a deal I had which ‘relieved’ me of an unwanted ‘kid’.

You seem to be talking about another kind of agreement.

Are you saying that Khatib agreed to talk in Turkish?

What is wrong with that? It looks to me like a good agreement, and I am beginning to see now the feeble connection with my own agreement. I think in new Syria we should be bilinguals. Turkish should become the second language. So, I agree with Khatib on this one: Better Turkish than 3Ajami. Sure, I get rid of an unwanted ‘kid’ and Mullah-stan all in one deal.

OK, I see now you are fully awake.

108. zoo said:

“#58 Syrian

“Hitting gas line and bread lines are the regime specialty”

What are yours?”

Exposing you!

Advices from a famous Islam theologian

#122 Syrian

I’ve noticed that, Sherlock

Nabil Fayyad:
??? ???? ?? “?? ???? ?? ????? ???? ??? ????? ????????? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ?????”? ????? ??? ?? “????? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ????? ?? ???? ???????? ?? ????? ?????”.
???? ???? ??????? ?????? ??? ?? “???? ????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ?????”? ????? ?? “????? ??????? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ???????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??? ??? ????? ?? ????? ????? ???? ??? ???? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ????? ??????????”.
George Sabra said that Syrians can not fight “forever”

111 visitor

Sorry to disappoint you:

Al Khatib spoke the language of the coward, he said absolutely nothing.
He let his master Sulky S.ultan Erdogan do all the talking in turkish to the Syrians refugees…
Take example on him..

SHEILA #7 rightly pointed out that things in revolutions do not follow predictable paths.

Also in Assad’s case, there are significant variables at play in his support from Russia and Iran.

Russia is clearly sick of the Syrian thing and looking to get out of the mess. The Putin-driven rationale for supporting Syria and the price being paid can’t be defended domestically as being in Russia’s national interest e.g. its effect on Russia’s relationship with Turkey over pipelines, along with everything else.

And Iran’s “leadership” is not finding the world an easy place to try to run. Their hold on Iraq is now looking shaky (see following post).

ZOO challenged me earlier to substantiate my “bold” statement that Iran was facing self-inflicted economic collapse over the sanctions. I will give him some sources to read in a separate post since he seems to be in stunned surprise at this news.

Alarming turn of events for Assad regime sponsors, the moronic Mullahs in Teheran.

Powerful Iraqi Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr is now publicly joining Sunnis and Christians chanting “Iran out” in protests against the Maliki government in Iraq.

Malaki is seen as Iran’s man, something al-Sadr definitely isn’t.

Story: Iraqi Shiite cleric al-Sadr visits church, Sunni mosque as anti-government protests rage

“Their chants included: “Iran out!” — a reference to what many Iraqis see as their neighbor’s influence over the government — and “Nouri al-Maliki is a liar.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/firebrand-cleric-sadr-visits-baghdad-church-that-was-site-of-2010-attack/2013/01/04/0fb01bc6-5651-11e2-89de-76c1c54b1418_story_1.html

Zoo @116,

Are you upset because your new master is not Turkish?

If you prefer a Turkish master, then you have to talk to your current master and convince him to return you to me. I will look into his request and will try to find you a Turkish master, even though I may have to go into the trouble of making another auction and may have to also offer a huge discount.

Syrialover

“Russia is clearly sick of the Syrian thing and looking to get out of the mess”
I am not sure where you got that ‘clearly’, please provide serious source as it is not apparent at all that it is affecting Russia, more than just a nuisance.

Turkey is the one in a mess with costly 200,000 refugees, the PKK and the Kurds becoming bolder, more soldiers dying and a hot presidential struggle in 2014.
They want desperatly to get out of the mess they have creaated in Syria by their ill-fate megalomaniac foreign policy.

I am eagerly waiting for your sources of Iran’s economy ‘collapsing’. It may be ailing but certainly far from collapsing…

Visitor

Save you time and money… you may need it to buy yourself a syrian alawi slave like your fathers did…

for syrians and professor,

famous sweet shop (pistachio confections) in damascus similar to zalatimo in amman maybe not far from back of 4seasons not on a main st but a narrow side street.

what is the name of this shop?

for our 2nd rate tel aviv keyboarding monkeys, have the bleeding rat brained terrorists begun to eat themselves and each other?

I love it when Zoo calls Turkey a “mess” based on its “ill-fate megalomaniac foreign policy”.

I guess Syria is a paradise because of Assad’s well thought out foreign and internal policies. Zoo, if Turkey is a “mess”, what word would you use to describe Syria?

You do realize that Assad is bombing the infrastructure of his own country? What do you have to say about the slogan “Assad or we burn the country down”. Over what does Assad expect to rule even in the remote chance that he wins? All he is doing is assuring that there will be a huge wave of revenge once the regime weakens. You think also that the people who have seen their villages and towns and cities destroyed are going to let regime supporters keep their houses?

As I see it, between the revenge, jihadists and property confiscations, you and your ilk are doomed (that is if you stay in Syria, you have probably already fled by now). And it is all Assad’s fault. He had 11 years to make changes and he did nothing.

Tara

Do you like “Le Tanneur’ french leather luxury as much as “Louboutin??

122. 5 dancing shlomossaid:

for syrians and professor,

famous sweet shop (pistachio confections) in damascus similar to zalatimo in amman maybe not far from back of 4seasons not on a main st but a narrow side street.

what is the name of this shop?

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DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THE SUBHUMANS SHLOMO. WE DETERMINED THAT ONLY 5 SYRIANS ACTUALLY REGULAR HERE, YOU INCLUDED.SHI***T I FORGOT TO ADD:

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Future jihadists posing

http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s/19/media19/2013/Jan/4/LiveLeak-dot-com-e1ced2ed83bb-182527_106102929552393_540340765_n.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bad2914e46d8d52c1c&ec_rate=300

Yup. Regime supporters are either stupid, crazy, or both. The Syrian regime attracts crazy idiots like moths to a flame.

If you’re arguing with a regime supporter, this means that you’re arguing with a crazy stupid person. Always keep this in mind and behave appropriately.

Zoo, do you have a job? If anything, the obsessed one is you given the amount of whack-job posts you’ve made recently. I post here pretty frequently, but only in my free time. And I’ve not been posting here for two years, like you.

123. AIG

Hurray! a post with the “11” years obsession only once and in the last line.. a real progress.

Still, it is boring.

Note to Thumbs hackers:
The more I get negative ones, the more I know I am hitting the right nerve.

Marigoldaran

“Zoo, do you have a job?

Yes, a recent one: making you mad and I think I am succeeding.

Zoozoo is ignoring Iraq demonstrations

No, no, it’s good if you have a job.

Given the frequency and the obsession of your posts, I was starting to wonder.

Even though Zoozoo is ignoring Iraqi demonstartions, his ape comrades of the mullahcracy are furious,

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/pages/3d1b1e3a-1e3b-493d-87ba-6a9707e1d7c2?GoogleStatID=9

Soon they will be furious over Tehran.

These Syrian women won’t let the Takfiri apes take over:

Homs – Kad?n Halk Savunma Birlikleri Teröristlere Kar?? Topland?

Interesting picture #126

The fighter looks Uzbek.

Should Turkey continues with its legal brothels or, like other conservative Moslem countries, condone but occasionaly crack down on illegal prostitution?

Sex workers stage protest to keep brothel alive in Istanbul

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/sex-workers-stage-protest-to-keep-brothel-alive-in-istanbul.aspx?pageID=238&nID=38350&NewsCatID=341

Sex workers employed at a brothel in Karaköy district of Istanbul staged a protest earlier today against a temporary, 15-day closure of six brothels in the neighborhood.

Undercover, civilian police claimed sex workers at the brothels in question illegally advertised and called to customers in ways that are not permitted, which resulted in their temporary closure as a penalty.

“The government has started closing our work places [brothels] in an arbitrary way, without showing us any alternatives. This will push us to work informally without control,” the protesters said in a statement issued to the press.

Protesters hailed illegal prostitution as a significant problem. “The government stopped issuing new certificates for prostitution in 2002. Some 100,000 women work illegally on the streets,” said ?evval K?l?ç, a founder of a sex workers’ rights association.

2014? If Erdogan loses the election, the “revolution” is over. No doubt.

#133 Visitor

Goddess Al Jazeera dixit…

Iyad Allawi called for Maliki to resign, Muqfada Sadr visited Sunni mosque and a church, supporting the demonstrations, and Persian Shiite are saying it is foreign conpiracy,just like Booha bashar.
These demonstrations will certain to overthrow Maliki,they are approaching million.Maliki does not have military power to bomb them,they should march toward his palace and force him out,Talbani is unconscious,he can not help him

132. MarigoldRan

Thanks for your concern about me, I am touched.

Majie

“These demonstrations will certain to overthrow Maliki”

Yeah, sure.

Like Iran in the 80’s Egypt’s Moslem Brotherhood is trying to export its ideological revolution in other Arab countries.

Growing Strains for Muslim Brotherhood and Emirates
By KAREEM FAHIM and MAYY EL SHEIKH
Published: January 3, 2013

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/04/world/middleeast/egypt-tries-to-resolve-tensions-between-muslim-brotherhood-and-uae.html?_r=0

CAIRO — The Egyptian government on Thursday remained mired in a dispute between the Muslim Brotherhood, the country’s leading Islamist movement, and the United Arab Emirates, which this week said that it had arrested several Egyptians accused of forming a Brotherhood cell, stealing state secrets and conspiring with Brotherhood leaders in Egypt.

Syrian Rebels , Lacking Weapons, Switch To “War Of Attrition”

By Steve Hynd, on January 4th, 2013
http://agonist.org/syrian-rebels-lacking-weapons-switch-to-war-of-attrition/

From the Guardian:
(Syria rebels’ arms supplies and finances drying up despite western pledges

With no sign of the west relaxing its ban on arming opposition forces, rebels are forced to focus on a gradual war of attrition
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/04/syria-rebels-arms-drying-up

The fragmentation of those Syrian rebel forces is a major reason they’ve not seen more money and weapons from their Gulf allies, and Western pressure on those same allies over misgivings about extremist groups who seem to be taking over at the sharp end of the rebellion are another.

All in all, though, it is looking very like a) the expected rapid demise of the Assad regime won’t be all that rapid after all and b) Assad’s fall will hardly be the end of the Syrian multi-factional civil war. There are all kinds of reasons why the West should remain hands off despite the bloodshed – all the alternatives, from choosing factional sides in the post-Assad conflict to the many huge negatives of an Iraq-style intervention, are worse than what is happening now

My sources in the SAA tell me the rats are being exterminated in large numbers. Those fortunate enough to escape death are surrendering in droves.

Their attempts to cause trouble at Wadi Deif and Taftanaz air bases were met with “ferocious” attacks by the SAA. Reports indicate the terrorists were stunned.

After two years the FSA doesn’t hold a single city or town. All they can do are hit and run attacks and conduct cowardly suicide bombings. The FSA lacks the ability to hold territory.

I love how this “revolution” is dying right before my eyes.

I have a message for President Assad: take no prisoners – no mercy for these animals.

Australia warns citizens against fighting in Syria

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/australia-warns-citizens-against-fighting-in-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=38331&NewsCatID=359

Australians who take part in the fighting in Syria face up to 20 years in jail, a spokesman for Foreign Minister Bob Carr said Friday after a Melbourne man was reportedly killed in the conflict.

The spokesman said the government was aware of reports that more than 100 Australians had engaged in the conflict since 2011 but he had “no evidence” of any citizens currently involved.

Dear Mr. President,

President Assad if you read this forum I want to thank you for standing strong under the combined assault of many nations. They sent their weapons and their men and their money to destroy Syria but you stood stong and resisted their conspiracy and you won. I had enormous respect for you before the war – both as a man and as a president – that respect has grown with each passing day.

I want peace for Syria but not at the price of letting the terrorists win a single thing. I don’t want Syria to negotiate with the puppets the West has picked – let them remain in London, Paris, Washington, Ankara or in the Gulf dictatorships. Honest opposition is healthy for any nation but opposition from puppets sent by corrupt hyenas? Never!

You have beat them Mr. President.

Thank you.

All Syria thanks you.

Like Iran in the 80?s Egypt’s Moslem Brotherhood is trying to export its ideological revolution in other Arab countries, more….

Islamists pursue own agenda in Iraq’s Sunni protests
By Suadad al-Salhy | Reuters – 2 hrs 33 mins ago

http://news.yahoo.com/islamists-pursue-own-agenda-iraqs-sunni-protests-170211216.html

Senior Sunni sources say the Iraqi Islamic Party (IIP), part of the Muslim Brotherhood, is the prime mover in a campaign to create an autonomous Sunni fiefdom, by force if need be.

“Sunnism is our slogan and a region is our goal,” senior cleric Sheikh Taha Hamed al-Dulaimi told demonstrators in Anbar in a video on his website. “Do not scatter your demands.”

A blow to Al Jazeera’s sneaking in the USA…

Time Warner Cable Dropped CurrentTV As Soon As It Was Sold to Al Jazeera

By Dashiell Bennett | The Atlantic Wire – Thu, Jan 3, 2013

Within hours of CurrentTV officially being sold to Al Jazeera—netting Al Gore a cool $100 million—Time Warner Cable pulled the network from its channel lineups. Apparently, Time Warner didn’t even wait until last night’s programming day was over to yank Current from its service, deciding to pull the plug (at least in the New York City market) before the end of Eliot Spitzer’s nightly show.

The network did not give an official reason for the move, but many have speculated that it’s simply prejudice against the new owners, who are based in Doha, Qatar, and have seen their fair share of controversy over the years. The Middle East-focused Al Jazeera began as an Arabic-only network, before adding a English language version, and has been accused in the past of a decidedly anti-American bias and even of sympathy for terrorist organizations.
…
Most U.S. cable companies still refuse to carry Al Jazeera English, although thanks to an unusual “sublet” deal with another network, it is actually available on Time Warner—but only part time and only in New York City.

New Definition for “animal”

I have a message for President Assad: take no prisoners – no mercy for these animals.

I have a message for revenire:

Animals don’t hold free elections or allow freedom of speech.

You may want to rethink who is an animal and who isn’t.

They Make Up Numbers
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/01/they-make-up-numbers.html

At least 60,000 people have died in Syria’s conflict, UN Human Rights Commissioner Navi Pillay says.
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/least-60000-people-have-died-syrias-conflict-un-human-rights-commissioner-navi-pillay

How does Navi Pillay knows this? The UN does not have any presence in Syria.

At least 60,000 people have died in Syria’s conflict, UN Human Rights Commissioner Navi Pillay said on Wednesday, citing what she said was an exhaustive UN-commissioned study.
…
The new study, by Benetech, a non-profit technology company, showed deaths rising from around 1,000 per month in the summer of 2011 to an average of more than 5,000 per month since July 2012.

Benetech:
http://www.benetech.org/human_rights/strategic_partners.shtml

Using scientific methods from demography, epidemiology, and mathematical statistics, the Human Rights group at Benetech® transforms information into knowledge about past and on-going human rights violations.

But that does not explain where the information that gets “transformed” by Benetech is actually coming from. I have yet to find their “sources”.

Benetech’s funders, according to its website, include the National Endowment for Democracy, the Soros Open Society Institute and the US Department of State. Are those also the entities that generate the information Benetech is “transforming”?

Is it really well advised for the United Nations to use a U.S. government funded entity to calculate some inevitably disputed numbers of casualties when the U.S. is supporting one side of the conflict?

UPDATE: Here http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/SY/PreliminaryStatAnalysisKillingsInSyria.pdf is the full Benetech report (pdf). As expected the analysis is based on information that, at least for all of 2012, comes solely from Syrian opposition groups. The process of analysis performed therein can be described as garbage in, garbage mixing and garbage out. It is pure opposition propaganda, laundered through a U.S. financed entity, to be presented by a partisan UN Human Rights Commissioner.

http://www.alhurra.com/content/iraq-maliki-sunni-protestors-demonstration/217329.html
one would think it is judgement day, Maliki days are about to end,this will be the best help to the Syrian revolution.
I wonder if Mr. Landis still think Assad will last till 2014,with Iraq about to switch.
This makes my day,I said it before ,Syrian revolution,will succeed when it will spread to Iraq.
Zoozoo is whistling Ya Waylee

Question: The Syrian government is accused of shooting civilians and shooting at peaceful demonstrators right? Where is the evidence?

Today almost everyone has a cellphone that also shoots short movies. So-called “activists” in Syria use them daily. Why are there no videos of the Syrian authorities shooting at people?

I don’t mean fighting between the FSA and the Syrian government. I mean peaceful protesters being shot at. I don’t mean FSA claims that a bakery was destroyed by the Syrian Air Force. I mean peaceful protesters being shot by security forces.

This is the claim that has been made hundreds of times. I ask: Where are the videos showing CLEARLY that the Syrian authorities shot at peaceful demonstrators who were simply demanding/asking for more freedom or for a better economy?

Isn’t it strange that here we are two years into a full-blown war and not one video like this has surfaced? The FSA takes videos of everything. The “activists” have cameras rolling 24/7 to document their “revolution” but no videos of the “peace-loving demonstrators” being murdered by police and/or soldiers?

Please don’t show me videos of battles of the war or a claimed atrocity by a Syrian MIG or helicopter. I want only to see the peaceful demonstrations and clear evidence that the Syrian government attacked them.

Morsi in 2010: No to Negotiations with “the Descendants of Apes and Pigs”; Boycott

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3NCiaozL0k
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Soonites you simply can’t believe a word they say!

At 115, GHUFRAN said:

Nabil Fayyad:
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As usual, no link from Ghufran. The notes above appear to be taken from El Nashra, under this headline:

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The entire text of the story from El Nashra gives a hint of the orientation of this ‘opposition’ to Assad:

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????? ???? ?? “??????? ?????? ??? ?? ????? ??????? ????? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ???????? ???? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ??????? ????? ???????”.

???? ???? ??? ?? “????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ?????”? ?????? ?? “????? ?????? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ??? ??????? ???????”? ????? ??? ?? “??? ??????? ??????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ????? ???? ?? ????”.

???? ???? ??? “?? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??? ????????? ?????? ????????? ?? ????? ?????”? ????? ??? ??? “?????? ????? ???? ?????? ???? ?? ???????? ???? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ???????? ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ???????? ????????? ?????? ???????”? ?????? ?? “?????? ????? ??????”.

[Ghufran’s two paragraphs go here … ]

???? ???? ??? “???? ?????? ??? ??????? ??????? ?? ?????? ???????? ?? ??????”? ????? ??? “???? ?? ???? ????? ??????”? ????? ?? “?????? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ??????”? ????? ??? ?? “???? ????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ?????”.

What do we know about these ‘opposition’ members?

Here they are featured on the obscure Eretz Zen channel, with English subtitles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czCglvz0XTM&feature=player_embedded

There is a kind of irony that the new grouping (it cannot be registered as a legal political party yet) is proclaimed in Beirut.

Here are some highlights of the ‘opposition’ position.

— the group is composed of ‘loyalists and opposition’
— the Syrian Arab Army is a ‘red line’
— NATO/Al Qaeda are the fomenters of destruction
— expressly excluded from the dialogue to come are the “Doha Coalition”
— priority is given to investigating the connection between the “Doha Coalition” and Al-Qaeda
— much of the meeting was devoted to videos of ‘Takfiri Wahhabis’
— it stressed that the dialogue must be held on Syrian land.

The Youtube report above is accompanied by this text:

A new Syrian coalition by the name of “National Movement for Syria’s Rescue” has been announced today (Jan 3, 2013) in Beirut, Lebanon. It is comprised of Syrian figures from the opposition, regime loyalists, and the “silent majority”. The group claims to speak on behalf of Syria’s silent majority, which does not want a Sharia-based Islamist-run state but rather a democratic and secular state. This meeting was first in a series of meetings that this coalition will be holding in Cairo, Damascus, and Tunis. Those meetings’ aim is to get enough support to counter what they referred to as the Muslim Brotherhood project whose center is Istanbul, Turkey.

Some of the issues the new coalition will be working on is to reach out to as many external and internal forces as possible to engage in a national dialogue and to uncover any links that exist between the “Doha Coalition” (Syrian National Coalition) and the al-Qaeda Wahhabi Takfiri groups currently fighting on the ground. The statement also stressed that the Syrian Army is a ‘red line’.

Source: RT Arabic

#155 Salafi Psychic

I’ll include this with your previous predictions about the fall of Damascus, Aleppo, Homs, Hama and the Al Assad government.

I remember how excited and confident you were in Ramadan/August ’12 over the impending “liberation of Damascus” and again in December ’12. We all know how that went! lol

Our mysterious, rootless, REVENIRE, who belongs to no country, has this to say** about the UN death calculations:

But that does not explain where the information that gets “transformed” by Benetech is actually coming from. I have yet to find their “sources”.

Well, the reason you have yet to find their sources is because you are too stupid to read the report (or its methodologies). If you bothered to read it, you would discover (or rather, ‘b’ of Moon of Alabama might discover) the sources.

Based on a comparison of records from March 15, SOHR, GoSY, SS, VDC, and SNHR (combined with SRGC), Benetech found that the seven datasets document a total of 59,648 unique records of killings between March 2011 and November 2012. Of those documented killings, 76.1% are male victims, 7.5% are female victims, and 16.4% of records do not indicate the sex of the victim.

That’s on page 4, REVENIRE …
_________________

** of course, REVENIRE did not actually write the material quoted. That is lifted from MoonofAlabama entirely. As with his ‘borrowing‘ of the 13 points above that he plagiarized from Facebook’s Hiba Syriana.

Reve/SS

You are plagiarizing now?

I am not surprised.

Zoo,

Go ahead.

Reve needs you now…

WSS I am part of the Zoo Consortium remember? Your detective skills are uncanny.

I know you Canadian revolutionaries are slow in the uptake but I never said I wrote the Moon of Alabama post. I *linked* it. ”

Further if you had read the thing you would have seen this:

“UPDATE: Here http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/SY/PreliminaryStatAnalysisKillingsInSyria.pdf is the full Benetech report (pdf). As expected the analysis is based on information that, at least for all of 2012, comes solely from Syrian opposition groups. The process of analysis performed therein can be described as garbage in, garbage mixing and garbage out. It is pure opposition propaganda, laundered through a U.S. financed entity, to be presented by a partisan UN Human Rights Commissioner.”

On the other post: same thing.

On the videos: I won’t be seeing any because they don’t exist. It is all fake – like the fake revolution or the Fake Syrian Army. If the Syrian government had shot peaceful demonstrators those videos would be on CNN-FOX-MSNBC-BBC-etc.etc.etc.etc.etc. 24/7. They aren’t.

Tweet that WSS. Have some clueless keyboard warrior tweep say “here they are” but they’ll post a video of people running that *claims* to be what I asked for but not PROOF. There is no proof. It never happened. The “peaceful revolution” was violent from Day 1.

????? ?????

http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Opinion/Syria-Jordan2.jpg,

Zoo@128

“Do you like “Le Tanneur’ french leather luxury as much as “Louboutin??”

Why are you asking? You want to send me a gift? 😉

I always wanted to send you a gift too..

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(Saleh is reportedly a business man in Turkey with millions of dollars)

Iraq,Iran and Syria will be well served if there is an inclusive government in Baghdad, I made my opinion about Maliki clear from day one,I also warned that many people want another Maliki in Syria.
Think about a Sunni Maliki in Syria and how is he going to govern if people think that he is sectarian and corrupt, one should not be anti maliki in Iraq but pro GCC in Syria,only home grown leadership that is based on consensus can survive and can claim legitimacy, for that reason,and others, Assad rule needs to end and Assad opponents need to be given a chance.
AS for islamist militants, those thugs can only be defeated by the people they are claiming to protect: Sunnis in Syria, syrian sunnis, my relatives included, are mostly moderate and will not accept a Taliban gang as their spoke person(s), what you see now is a reaction to Assad’s brutality and is a display of the resentment many sunnis ,and non sunnis, have for the corrupt government in Damascus, my fear is that if the islamists are not confronted and defeated now it will be much harder and much more expensive to do the job later.

156. REVENIRE

You must be giggling hysterically at your own comedy posts.

Why not ask any mainstream media outlet for relevant footage? I saw plenty of it on TV news broadcasts at the time. I also recall foreign journalists were around witnessing things then too. But that’s beyond your memory span. And it doesn’t fit with your joke. Part of which is making claims about the FSA at a time before it even emerged.

Your idea of fun and entertainment: playing idiotic cyber games about what’s happening in Syria.

Ugly.

167. SYRIALOVER

No, the entire time the mainstream media in the West said no reporters were allowed in Syria (except that was a lie, as we all know).

The start of this war has been documented by many, as has the fact it was violent from the very beginning. (Go to any nation and start shooting police and soldiers and see what happens to you – bet you are 1.) killed 2.) arrested if you’re lucky.)

No games – just reality that you obviously can’t handle.

I am waiting for evidence of these government atrocities. If you’re so sure of your cause and your points it should be easy to provide ample video evidence of it. The “opposition” films everything. Any two morons with rifles call themselves a brigade to try to suck money out of Saudis prince of Qatari emirs – they film all of it. Where are the videos of the Syrian authorities shooting innocent protesters? Remember – not videos of people running someone CLAIMS are proof – I want solid proof. I won’t hold my breath if you don’t mind.

You won’t ever have this proof and we both know it. You’ve never seen the proof. You’re the one playing a game. The entire revolution has been a game – except one with thousands of innocent people murdered by animals calling themselves a “free” army.

Thank you.

164. Tara

After all the good you wrote about the country, I don’t need to offer you any Le Tanneur luxury leather gift, you are entitled to a very special gift from the wife of one of the few men you admire and keep thanking.

Le Tanneur has been bought by Moza, and… she plans to open a shop in Gaza.

Take your medication, Rev, take your medication.

Turkey is becoming increasingly impatient to see the end of this crisis.
Top official visits Russia to talk Syria, late in January

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/top-official-visits-russia-to-talk-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=38401&NewsCatID=338

Turkey will propose “concrete” proposals to Russia, a senior diplomat also told Anatolia news agency, adding that Moscow had realized that a transition process with President Bashar al-Assad was no longer possible. The diplomat, however, added that Russia told Turkey that they would not “persuade” al-Assad to leave his post.
….
Last month, Turkish daily Radikal reported that Turkey had made a new proposal to Russia for an orderly peaceful transition in war-ravaged Syria. The proposal calls for al-Assad to step down in the first three months of 2013 and for the transition process to be undertaken by the opposition National Coalition, which has been recognized as the sole representative of Syrians by Arab and Western states, the daily reported

What a bad joke, only an extremely dishonest person would request these here on SC after nearly two years of mass destruction and genocide in Syria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0S-dMKPO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngimgaLU-xk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIdiRpUWZ0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPbAHA2ciUU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQOQWYTTD6Q

PS: Not only activists record everything, so do Shabbiha.

The UN-US-RUSSIA peace plan in its final stages: A nasty blow to the opposition?

“Mr Brahimi has apparently told opposition leaders they need to “come to terms” with the fact that Syrian president Bashar al-Assad could stay in power until 2014”

Russia and US to set stage for new Syria effort

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2013/0105/1224328460897.html
United Nations diplomats speculate that a new attempt to secure a political solution to the Syrian conflict could be launched after a meeting next week between United States and Russian representatives and UN-Arab League envoy Lakhdar Brahimi.

This will be the third encounter between Mr Brahimi, US assistant secretary of state William Burns and his Russian counterpart Mikhail Bogdanov, who have been asked to forge a deal based on a deal reached in Geneva last June.

In New York, Pakistan’s ambassador and current UN Security Council president Masood Khan said “important consultations” were taking place outside the council.
…
Readiness to make a deal
…
In Damascus, deputy prime minister Qadri Jamil, a leftist who enjoys close ties with Russia, appeared to indicate the government’s readiness to make a deal.

“The objective climate to reach a political solution . . . has matured and all sides should discuss means of reaching compromises and solutions that serve the higher national interests,” he said.

Although Mr Brahimi has apparently told opposition leaders they need to “come to terms” with the fact that Syrian president Bashar al-Assad could stay in power until 2014, they say he must leave before there can be talks with remnants of his regime.
…

“One teacher told me that the kids only paint in red. And it’s almost impossible for them to draw human beings without blood coming out of them.” more……

In War-Torn Northern Syria, Children ‘Only Paint In Red’
by MARK MEMMOTT
January 04, 2013 8:15 AM

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/04/168601356/in-war-torn-northern-syria-children-only-paint-in-red

172. Hamoudeh al-Halab

Sorry to disappoint you, but none of the videos you posted are conclusive enough.
Just try to mute the sound and ignore the text added and you’ll see they mean nothing.

Sound dubbing, editing and image manipulation are know to have been part of the early propaganda training the expats activists got from their mentors.
Legally, nobody can use these are indictment materials.

Zoo

Sorry, I forgot you don’t smile…

Tara

Does it mean that when they were under the ‘cruel dictatorship,’ they were painting their life in blue and other colors?

Is the Moslem Brotherhood trying to export the revolution?

Morsi faces diplomatic test over UAE arrests

Bradley Hope
Jan 4, 2013

The allegations go to the heart of fears among Arabian Gulf leaders that Muslim Brotherhood supporters would attempt to “export the revolution” to their countries and overthrow seated governments, said Namira Negm, a visiting professor at the American University of Cairo, who is on a sabbatical from the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

“If the claims are proven, it would be very serious,” she added. “We haven’t seen this since the Iranian revolution. It would not just impact UAE-Egyptian relations, but the whole region and internally in Egypt.”

The delegation of envoys from Egypt also raised questions about whether Mr Morsi was upholding the rights of Egyptian expatriates accused of crimes or protecting members of the Brotherhood, in which he was a long-time official.

“There’s a big question mark,” Ms Negm said. “I’m not sure he would have done the same for other Egyptians who get in trouble.”

Abdallah Al Ashaal, a former diplomat, said Mr Morsi’s decision to include in the delegation Mr Al Haddad, a leading Brotherhood member, was a mistake because the president should be acting as the head of the state of Egypt and not the group from which he came.

“The messenger from Egypt should not be from the Muslim Brotherhood,” he said

Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/morsi-faces-diplomatic-test-over-uae-arrests#ixzz2H3nnpwIl
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is the end close?
Desperate Syrian rebels use DIY weapons

Reuters
Jan 4, 2013

ALEPPO PROVINCE // At a converted warehouse in the midst of a block of residential homes in a northern Syrian town, men are hard at work at giant lathes, shavings of metal gathering around them.
Sacks of potassium nitrate and sugar lie nearby.

In a neat row against the wall is the finished product – homemade mortars. Syrian rebels say they have been forced to make them because their calls for heavy weapons and ammunition to fight President Bashar Al Assad have gone unanswered.

“No one’s giving us any support. So we’re working on our own to strike Bashar,” said a bearded man spinning the metal to create the warhead.

Using information on the internet for guidance, the workshop of about seven men work together to try to perfect the crude weapons.

Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/desperate-syrian-rebels-use-diy-weapons#ixzz2H3pF2QDE
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I said proof of soldiers or police shooting at unarmed demonstrators. Not one of these videos shows that. This is pathetic.

^ soldiers shooting at *something* – no people are seen ^
Video #1 – This is proof of what exactly?

^ people actually shooting AT soldiers in this one ^
Video #2 – Evidence FOR the Syrian side of the war showing masked terrorists shooting at soldiers.

^ tanks and soldiers firing at *something* but what who knows ^
(Is anyone supposed to believe this? If you took this into a courtroom you’d be in trouble.)
Video #3 – Worse than useless.

^ no evidence ^
Video #4 – Useless.

^ people throwing rocks at soldiers ^
Video #5 – Useless.

Syrian Arab Army soldiers don’t shoot at unarmed civilians.

If this is proof it is proof that Assad has taken the correct steps. Not one of these videos shows soldiers shooting at unarmed protesters.

I think with some of you “revolution” jokers you thought the world would believe your YouTube videos and claims – except the world hasn’t.

No court would convict a single soldier or police officer of any crime based on any of the videos you posted above.

What a joke.

Don’t waste my time with this garbage.

Zoo,

For your reading pleasure.  Non-armed opposition fares just exactly the same as the armed-opposition.  This is Syria for you. 

http://news.sky.com/story/1033348/syria-how-activist-vanished-into-black-hole

Syria: How Activist Vanished Into ‘Black Hole’
When Zed didn’t answer calls, Sky’s Tim Marshall wasn’t worried – until he found out he was in the hands of Syria’s secret police.4:21pm UK, Friday 04 January 2013

….

Al-Qaeda chief’s younger brother arrested in Syria for aiding rebels
5 Jan 2013 00:00
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/al-qaeda-chief-ayman-zawahiris-younger-1519162

He was seized by Syrian troops as he prepared to meet up with rebels in Darya, outside Damascus
The brother of al-Qaeda chief Ayman Zawahiri has been arrested, it was revealed last night.

Mohammed Zawahiri, 59, was seized by Syrian troops as he prepared to meet up with rebels in Darya, outside Damascus.

But Western intelligence fears the arrest could lead to more bloodshed.

A source said: “Zawahiri junior has set himself up as something of a peace maker in the Middle East, although he holds the same ideals as al-Qaeda.

“He believes in the spread of Islam, Sharia law and has supported terrorist acts against the west, justifying them as jihad against oppressors of the Islamic faith.

“This development could well enhance the al-Qaeda leadership’s interest in promoting violence across Syria as Zawahiri junior is well-respected by the network.”

Ayman, 61, took over from Osama bin Laden after he was killed by US Navy SEALs.

He has sworn to support the rebels in their bid to overthrow Syrian president Bashar Assad.

And there are thought to be 1,000 al-Qaeda loyalists helping them in Syria under the banner Jabat al-Nusrah.

Tara’s been in the US so long she’s starting to believe their media’s spin on events even when most Americans don’t.

Tara the reason so many children are sitting in refugee camps is because the FSA blew up their homes and destroyed their schools. Don’t believe me. Ask former FSA supporters in Aleppo.

I remember Edward Dark – he is in Aleppo – being one of the biggest FSA supporters on Twitter. Now he hates them and calls them thieves and murderers. Former friends have turned on Edward for speaking the truth.

He isn’t the only one either Tara.

Are they all lying? Everyone?

Tara

This is a ruthless war and, by rejecting a dialog, Al Khatib and the NC have shown that they want to satisfy their ego of vanquishing Bashar Al Assad at any cost, even at price of the death of innocents.

183 MOSSIE

“Tara’s been in the US so long she’s starting to believe their media’s spin on events even when most Americans don’t”

Mossie’s had his head up his ass so long he thinks brown walls are normal…

Rami Abdel Rahman: the UN numbers of death in Syria are inflated

Key source for Syrian death toll questions accuracy of recent UN-sponsored report

By David Enders | McClatchy Newspapers

BEIRUT — A new United Nations-sponsored report that estimates more than 60,000 people have died in Syria’s political violence has touched off a new dispute that underscores how little is truly known about the toll from a civil war just weeks from beginning its third year.

One Syrian activist who provided some of the numbers for the study says he believes the new numbers are inflated, while another says he believes they underrepresent the dead.

“They are being used as propaganda,” said Rami Abdel Rahman, the head of the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, who believes the new numbers overstate the number of dead. “The U.N. is not a human rights organization, it is a political one.”

Rahman said he believed the report, made public Wednesday, was being used to pressure countries into working harder to reach a political deal to stop the fighting.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/01/04/179062/key-source-for-syrian-death-toll.html#storylink=cpy

Why does Turkey care for its image in HA’s eyes?

Turkey ‘working’ for pilgrims

Turkey is continuing to make every effort to secure the release of Lebanese pilgrims being held by suspected Syrian rebels near Syria’s border with Turkey, diplomatic officials have said, dismissing reports that Ankara is indifferent to the captives’ plight.

Read more here:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-working-for-pilgrims.aspx?pageID=238&nID=38404&NewsCatID=359

I have been reading your comments and I would like to take this opportunity to thank my fans, REVENIRE, ZOO, 5 Dancing Scholoms, Syria No Kandahar, ANN, and the rest of the TRUE Syrians.

You have indeed shown your true patriotism in your posts and I would like to express my gratitude for defending the great nation of ours.

Revenire, ZOO, I would personally like to thank you both by inviting you to my palace. Asma is out of town so I would like to take this opportunity for you to be closer to your president.

To show your true affection, I will require you to bring a big vase of Vasoline and show that Monica Lewinski is not the only person in this planet who truly knows how to show “love” to her president.

SYDNEY: Australians who take part in the fighting in Syria face up to 20 years in jail, a spokesman for Foreign Minister Bob Carr said Friday after a Melbourne man was reportedly killed in the conflict.
The spokesman said the government was aware of reports that more than 100 Australians had engaged in the conflict since 2011 but he had “no evidence” of any citizens currently involved.
Under the Crimes (Foreign Incursions and Recruitment) Act 1978: “A person shall not enter a foreign state with intent to engage in a hostile activity … or engage in a hostile activity in a foreign state.
“Penalty [is] imprisonment for 20 years,” the spokesman said. “Anyone in Australia who recruits someone to fight overseas faces seven years.”
At least three Australians are reported to have died in Syria, including a Melbourne bricklayer reportedly traveling under the name Abu al-Walid al-Australi and killed last weekend fighting alongside rebels.
Australian Arabic Council founder Joseph Wakim said many people traveling to Syria claimed they were providing humanitarian support to the war-torn nation but were instead involved in the fighting.
( Syria is now a magnet for terrorists)

Saleh is worried about turkey’s increasing influence in Syria
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According to Alakhbar , a close newspaper to HA
Bashar wants to stay president till 2014 and be in the race after with ha Mana’a as the opposition prime minster

?Is this guy in total denial or what

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http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/174932

Life goes on in Aleppo:
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#168. REVENIRE

The way you are making a joke of what’s happened in Syria is sinister and appalling.

You must have become bored with lack of interest out there in your other playtime repertoire on how the 9/11 attacks were faked and the Srebrenica massacre a hoax.

FILTHY ISLAMIST MONSTER!

Sgt. in Saudi military accused of Vegas child rape – 1 hr 32 mins ago

http://news.yahoo.com/sgt-saudi-military-accused-vegas-child-rape-223626946.html

LAS VEGAS (AP) — A sergeant in Saudi Arabia’s air force was jailed in Las Vegas on charges that he pulled a boy into a hotel room and sexually assaulted him the morning of Sin City’s big New Year’s Eve fireworks extravaganza.

Mazen Alotaibi, 23, faces charges including kidnapping, sexual assault with a minor and felony coercion that could get him decades in state prison, according to police and charging documents obtained Friday.

The boy, who is younger than 14, told police the man forced him into a room at the Circus Circus hotel on the Las Vegas Strip and raped him. Police arrested Alotaibi after being called to the hotel before 9:30 a.m. Dec. 31.

“There was a kidnapping and sexual assault with force,” Las Vegas police Lt. Dan McGrath said. “The victim said he was forced into the room and sexually assaulted. We have a strong case based on the evidence.”

The boy, who lives out of state, was staying at the hotel with his family, McGrath said. He was taken to a hospital for medical treatment and evidence collection and released later to family members. His name was not made public.

McGrath said Alotaibi produced a Saudi Arabian military identification and said he was stationed at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland near San Antonio, Texas. U.S. federal authorities and Saudi military officials were notified, the police lieutenant said.

Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland spokesman Brent Boller told The Associated Press that records showed Alotaibi is currently stationed at Keesler Air Force Base in Biloxi, Miss. Boller said he could not immediately verify if Alotaibi had been at Lackland, but noted that international military students attend a Defense Language Institute English Language Center on the base to improve their English-language skills.

Alotaibi’s lawyer, Don Chairez of Newport Beach, Calif., said Friday he had been in contact with U.S. military authorities at both air force bases and with the Saudi government. He said Alotaibi had come to Las Vegas for the New Year’s celebration and will plead not guilty.

Alotaibi also is charged with burglary, which in Nevada can stem from a person entering a building with intent to commit a felony.

[…]

http://news.yahoo.com/sgt-saudi-military-accused-vegas-child-rape-223626946.html

153. Akbar Palace said:

“”” Animals don’t hold free elections or allow freedom of speech.

You may want to rethink who is an animal and who isn’t. “””

You mean, saudi arabia, quatar, U.A.E., Jordan … 😀

As usual, Abd al-Rahman al-Rashed presents a brilliant analysis,

http://www.alarabiya.net/views/2013/01/05/258675.html

The regime is evil. You can negotiate with them about as much as you can negotiate with Hitler or the Japanese during World War II.

The regime understands only force and brutality.

Rootless newcomer REVENIRE attempts to debunk videos providing visual confirmation that SAA/Shabiha have opened fire on unarmed protesters/civilians.

As with his earlier demented insistence that a video clearly showing an SAA atrocity was actually the work of FSA ‘rats’ … there is no contortion that this ‘cousin of Asma‘ cannot manage.

In the video analysis at comment #180, Asma’s cousin REVENIRE says this:

^ people actually shooting AT soldiers in this one ^
Video #2 – Evidence FOR the Syrian side of the war showing masked terrorists shooting at soldiers.

This is so sad. Given video evidence of just what he asks for, he simply transposes the actors. Soldiers and Shabiha become ‘masked FSA terrorists.’

Here are some stills from the video. The ‘masked terrorists’ are, so says the mysterious one, the ones shooting.

The ‘masked’ men are a mixture of uniformed (and helmeted) SAA troops as well as armed men without uniform.

Yet, REVENIRE insists that these guys are the ‘terrorists’ …

The date is September 2, 2011 (uploaded the same day).

http://i.imm.io/RJyp.jpeg

http://i.imm.io/RJyD.jpeg

http://i.imm.io/RJyT.jpeg

http://i.imm.io/RJyX.jpeg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151234801166247&set=a.10150555196441247.389740.17702461246&type=1&theater

Volker Perthes on Syria:

Looking Past Assad

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/05/opinion/global/looking-past-assad.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

Bashar doesnt spare any town or village

bombing of the town next to Krak de Chevaliers

See how pious the famous Mother Agnes de la Croix is?

WSS you can print those out and frame them – send them to me and I will have Maher sign them for you. They constitute proof of nothing.

All FSA videos are propaganda designed to achieve psychological warfare goals – one of which is to boost morale among foreign fighters who are quite often under the influence of narcotics.

I point to the rape of Aleppo your Salafist friends committed because “the people of Aleppo had not joined the revolution”. Now the FSA is hated among its former supporters in Aleppo. Go talk to Edward Dark.

To your kind everyone is “Shabiha” who stands up to the swine who murder Syria. You and your terrorist rabble will never defeat the Syrian Army. Ever.

There was an earlier Assadist nutterzone personality posting here on the subject of ‘fake videos,’ under the name of Ya Mara Galba.

Ya Mara, like the morally-blinded REVENIRE, was prone to swallowing Baathist hooey hole, no matter the subject. On the subject of videos, he/she used the same rhetoric as Assadist ZOO, discounting any and all video atrocity evidence as an example of vague ‘editing’ and ‘effects.’ Like ZOO, she/he could not explicate how the videos were altered. Unlike ZOO, he/she actually looked at them.

Like REVENIRE, Ya Mara operated on the assumption that the Syrian Arab Army and associated uniformed ‘security’ services never did, never could, never never never ever shot at civilians (and of course, existence of Shabiha was not for discussion).

Here was Ya Mara, at his/her finest, back in November 2011:

This high resolution video was uploaded at youtube today and has so far attracted 78 comments at youtube. I’d like to hear any anyone comment who’s seen bogus videos before. I say the first eight seconds were filmed at a quite different time than the rest of the video(even though I see the yellow taxi with license plate 3P13 appears before and after). The crowd you see before time 0:08 clearly exhibits unawareness of the large crowd you see after time 0:08. And the crowd you see after time 0:08 clearly exhibits unawareness of the crowd you see before time 0:08.

Once you accept I’m right about that, the video as a whole is an attempted fraud.

This was the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fqP4uclj6o

Ya Mara was responding to another commentator, who had asked: “so how do the minhbakji crowd explain away this video of security forces armed with kalashnikov rifles firing at unarmed protesters, filmed in hd clear quality in Qaboon Damascus?”

Bashar doesnt spare any town or village

bombing of the town next to Krak de Chevaliers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9sn8mCSVsXo
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Video is most likely fake, without even running digital forensic it appear as most likely so.

WSS you will have my apology and a letter of resignation on your desk if you can prove any one of these silly videos show the Syrian authorities firing on unarmed civilians.

Find better ones than those. They may impress tweeps and other stunned keyboard warriors but professionals laugh and pour themselves another cocktail (we don’t pour good liquor down sewers like the Takfiri swine do).

Cheers.

How many highly skilled video experts this regime holds.

Here is the SAA showing how to shoot Scuds at Syrian towns( Douma) :

It is hard to understand you, REVENIRE, mysterious wanderer.

Here’s why. You ask for video ‘proof’ that the SAA/Security/Shabiha directed fire on unarmed civilians (or protesters).

One of the videos supplied to you contains the very thing you wanted to see.

On seeing the video, you witlessly transposed the actors: the helmeted Syrian Army/Security are grouped together on one side (to the left, at the cross-street), and their group contains non-uniformed armed men. On the other side, civilians.

The helmeted/uniformed and associated figures opened fire, shooting directly.

To get around this plain and clear video, you pretend to yourself that the armed figures shooting down the street are FSA — that the government forces are actually the terrorists of your nightmares.

This is, on its face, crazynutter kookiepants, dropped-on-head stupid.

No matter the irrelevant-to-your-claims huffing and puffing you indulge in now, your inability to handle reality is plain to see.

Now, huff, now puff. The Syria Comment Nutterzone awards are waiting.

SYRIAN NATIONALIST PARTY if during a war for the survival of a nation the nation’s air force finds a legitimate target they attack it. It’s quite simple.

To hear victims like yourself tell it everything hit by the SAA or SAAF is a civilian target. Frankly, you do a lot of moaning and crying about your poor FSA fighters who get hit but they’ve had it easy hiding behind civilians because if the Syrian Air Force wanted to they could level most targets in short order.

Sad crying from desperate people who got themselves deep into Hell with no way out now except via crawling to Assad and begging to be allowed to take part in peace talks because they’ve lost their “war” and “revolution” to real Syrians.

WSS again: your video proof constitutes no proof at all. In fact more than one of them showed masked man firing on soldiers (not the one you took screen shots of).

The videos posted prove nothing except your desperation.

We can go all day at this if you like. I’m “game” if you are.

http://lightbox.time.com/2012/12/10/photographing-syrias-agony-the-images-that-moved-them-most/?iid=lb-gal-viewagn#25

Eerie picture.

“Take a look at the photos. Can you place yourself in these situations? Can you imagine what it must be like? What do you feel when you look at the images? Are you drawn into them, or are you repulsed? Can you relate to them, or are they too alien? This is the power of translating on-the-ground reporting to an audience. This is why we must and will continue to document the Syrian uprising from inside the country when we can, and we — members of the foreign press corps — are not alone. Sadly, as is often the case, local journalists (both professional and citizen) have disproportionately borne the brunt of the casualties in this crisis. Still, this story is not about members of the media and what we go through to tell it; it’s about the Syrians who entrust their testimonies, their experiences, their hopes, their fears, their images to us in the hope that they will help explain what is happening in one of the most pivotal states in the Middle East.

—Rania Abouzeid

Read more: http://lightbox.time.com/2012/12/10/photographing-syrias-agony-the-images-that-moved-them-most/#ixzz2H5GtURs7

Malek Jandali

Emessa

The only thing I missed from Aleppo is MALBAN, not the thing that looks like AMERDIINE, it is the one that comes on a rope with Walnut knott every few inches, do they still make that before Aleppo gone to Islamist dogs.

How about the Pistachio HARISI?

Oh man that too….wohoooo. Good thing I don’t live in Syria, Malaban, Harrissi, Ballouriye and Mankesh, Shwibieat, I would died of diabetes at 24, and that will be the biggest loss for humanity god will be sad, he lost it all then.

Mhnbaks, surely this women was a terrorist right?

Beware photo is graphic!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=425959360815809&set=a.338083046270108.75098.336809213064158&type=1&theater

Asmatown, whats left from it after the visit of her Batta!

Wars never make people better, some say that men will become like animals, but do we know animals who would do this:

beware, very graphic video produced by shabiha torturing men 18+++

VOTE IN 2014 FOR BASHAR ASSAD FOR PRESIDENT!!!!! Maybe, why not, if he removes “Arab” from the State name and let us set up shop in Syria, give our land back. Finally he is asking for Iskandarun back. I’d rather Turkey keep it than add it to the Arab Republic of Syria.

While ANN picks more insurgents from her hair, here is something for fans of Syrian Arab Army war pornography.

In this video, soldiers are shown blowing the brains out of a bound captive. They then abuse his body. They seem to quite enjoy this activity.

REVENIRE’s glorious army, proud of their crime. Let’s negotiate, everybody. Let’s have a dialogue!

“I’m going to shoot a terrorist in case my brother Alaa doesn’t come back, Mom.”

(then, after the bound captive’s brains are blown out … )

“Did? you hear, mother? My brother Alaa and all the soldiers want Bashar al-Assad.”

Landis: “…the rebels continue to operate on the assumption that the U.S. will intervene to tip the balance for them…”

These rebels are not only incompetent, but also stupid…

more Bashar reforms, now they have arrived to Al Qusur neighborhood
in Homs

In my teens I was so in love with Malek cousin Nadia… but then Asma Assad cousins Huda and Lina talked me out of it..LOL… Anyway, I play piano nicer than Malek, even composed few scores, he just copies classicals, un-creative.

Here Malek Jandali, get creative will ya, break out of the box,I know it is an impossibility for an Arab and Semites to do so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ_fkw5j-t0

The only thing which can win a war is PEACE!

The Bashar’s side has been weakened significantly both politically and militarily. Yet, their arrogance and impotence have not dimmed proportionally. But they are genuinely willing to get in dialogue.

On the other side, the rebels have been infested by radical elements so severely. Even those once staunch backers of western countries are moving back.

Get rid off those Islamic infestations! Apparently, it is just almost impossible if the rebels are still obsessed with military winning. Also, it takes tremendous bravery and determination to denounce radicalism under the current situation on the ground.

But it will get worse and it begets disaster for the rebels. This is actually the strongest ”legitimacy” claim by Bashars.

The rebels are helping their enemy yet hurting themselves.

The question is are there still any genuine opposition members out there who can push the wheels out of quagmire?

I am not optimistic.

anyone remember this assad pig? great video.

This is Zamalka after the reforms of the eyedoctor has hit them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HN349DZEa8&feature=youtu.be

AJE is near Damascus now

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/01/20131591419591626.html?utm_content=automate&utm_campaign=Trial6&utm_source=NewSocialFlow&utm_term=plustweets&utm_medium=MasterAccount

A praise to Assad?

https://twitter.com/NMSyria/status/287494392590245889/photo/1

212.
it is Bastik!!! ?????!!

Syrian Arab army to develop a strong offensive against terrorists in a suburb of Damascus city Darayya. 04/01/2013
http://youtu.be/Pdn1DUAKPDk?t=4m28s

Zadumani @82 said,

“Assad destroyed Syria like Hitler destroyed Europe. Was it possible, let’s say in 1944, to make a deal that a government of national unity is formed in Germany and presidential election held in 1946, with Hitler as one of the candidates”

It was not possible to do what you said in 1944. There was only one option: eliminate Hitler and Nazism.

FROM DARK CELLS OF CIA AS HILLARY SAID: AMERICAN MADED: there are thought to be 1,000 al-Qaeda loyalists helping them in Syria under the banner Jabat al-Nusrah.
Al-Qaeda chief’s younger brother arrested in Syria for aiding rebels
5 Jan 2013 00:00
He was seized by Syrian troops as he prepared to meet up with rebels in Darya, outside Damascus
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/al-qaeda-chief-ayman-zawahiris-younger-1519162
GLORY FOR SYRIAN ARAB ARMY !!!

Saudi air force sergeant charged with raping boy on New Year’s Eve in Strip hotel

A Saudi Arabia air force sergeant has been charged with raping a teenage boy who was visiting the Las Vegas Strip on New Year’s Eve.

Metro Police were called Monday morning to Circus Circus by hotel security, according to Lt. Dan McGrath with Metro’s sexual assault unit.

A 13-year-old boy, who was a guest at the hotel, had been walking down a hallway sometime after 8 a.m. when Mazen Alotaibi — a sergeant of the Saudi Arabian air force who was visiting Las Vegas on holiday — made contact and forced the boy into his room, McGrath said.

“This juvenile was not a family member and had no connection (with the suspect) before then,” McGrath said. “It was a random contact.”

After a police investigation, Alotaibi was charged with first-degree kidnapping, two counts of sexual assault with a minor under 14 years of age, burglary and sexually motivated coercion, according to a criminal complaint filed by the Clark County District Attorney’s Office in Las Vegas Justice Court.

“It’s a substantial and strong case,” McGrath said. “The evidence is more than probable cause. It’s not questionable.”

Alotaibi had been temporarily stationed at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, officials said.

Alotaibi is being detained at the Clark County Detention Center in a facility segregated from the general jail population. There are no immediate plans to deport him, an official said.

A preliminary hearing for Alotaibi is scheduled for Jan. 17 in Las Vegas Justice Court.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/jan/04/saudi-military-member-charged-raping-boy-new-years/

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No wonder Wahhabis oppress women: they hate them! Wahhabis are infamous for their depraved sexual orientation. The overwhelming majority of Saudistanis are: homosexuals and paedophiles!

The Assad show continues…

Where did they get this girl from? I bet its Lattakia.

Syrian Army celebrating and in good spirits? Notice there is no manic allah who akbar screaming? lol

As the rebels are claiming more “victories”, why is the Coalition in a state of panic?
Moaz Al Khatib arrogantly rejected the Geneva plan sponsored by the International community that would have halted the killing.
Now he is “imploring” the same international community to “take action” ( by that he means send us weapons or intervene militarily?) to stop the ‘genocide’.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/05/world/meast/syria-civil-war/index.html?hpt=wo_c2

“In an open letter Friday Ahmed Moaz al-Khatib, head of the National Coalition of Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, implored the U.N. Security Council and world leaders to take action.

“Our people are subjected to genocide and our country is being destroyed as the international silence is only encouraging the regime to commit more crimes against humanity,” he wrote. “Halting massacres in Syria is an international obligation everyone should bear responsibility for.”

Moaz : “Halting massacres in Syria is an international obligation everyone should bear responsibility for.”

Except him…

Qaeda man’s arrest in Syria denied

http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/qaeda-man-s-arrest-in-syria-denied-1.1448029

The British newspaper, The Independent, Saturday reported that Mohammed, the brother of al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, was detained in the Syrian province of Daraa, where he was allegedly meeting with opposition activists.

The paper, citing rebel fighters, said that Mohammed, 59, had been on a humanitarian mission and had not been involved in violent acts in Syria.

“It (the report) is devoid of truth and is an attempt to raise fears about Islamists,” he told al-Ahram.

Back in 2007, the plan to crush Syria using Islamic extremists

Seymour Hersh’s lengthy 9 page report, “The Redirection” published in the New Yorker in 2007 exposes US plans to use clandestine means to overthrow the government of Syria in a wider effort to undermine and destroy Iran. “A by-product of these activities,” writes Hersh, “has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.”

Seymour Hersh`s report:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh?currentPage=all

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.mx/2012/12/un-syria-peace-plan-fraud.html

A serious warning to Morsi’s blatant favoritism toward Moslem Brotherhood agents in Arab countries.

UAE rejects Mursi’s request to free Muslim Brotherhood cell ‘leaders’

Justice will take its course, top Cairo official told
By Abdul Hamid Ahmad, Editor-in-Chief
Published: 22:47 January 4, 2013
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/government/uae-rejects-mursi-s-request-to-free-muslim-brotherhood-cell-leaders-1.1127844

“There are at least 350 Egyptians in UAE jails convicted of various criminal cases,” an informed source told Gulf News later. “Nobody is making any noise about them. But everybody [in Egypt] is making noise about the recent arrests of the 11 [Muslim Brotherhood] suspects. That is really strange.”

Hagel may be the best choice for Iran and peace, and the worst for Israel and the neo-cons warmongers.

All signs point to Hagel as pick for U.S. defence secretary

05/01/2013

WASHINGTON, (Reuters) – President Barack Obama appeared poised on Friday to pick former Republican Senator Chuck Hagel as the next U.S. defence secretary and the announcement may come early next week.

As the long predicted ‘toppling’ of Bashar al Assad may have been reported sine die, the major medias seem to prepare for the new situation by invoking a convenient face saving “decisive” factor: The voices of the undecided Syrians.

Yet these same media have hammered us for 22 months that the “large majority” of the Syrian people was against Bashar Al Assad, so now why suddenly bother about the “undecided”?

Rebellion at Stalemate, Waiting for Undecided Syrians to Make a Move

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/05/world/middleeast/undecided-syrians-could-tip-balance-of-rebellion.html?_r=0

Zoo,

Al-Khatib is the villain in your eyes?

It is like labeling The little Red Riding Hood as the villain instead of the real one.

Drop that argument. No one is buying it.

For God sake, if Batta has an oz of humanity, he would dig held a grave and go inside it long time ago.

KSA and Egypt call for a peaceful handover in Syria.
Qatar: no comment

Handover in Syria
By Deema Almashabi – Jan 5, 2013 9:33 AM ET

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-05/saudi-arabia-egypt-call-for-peaceful-handover-in-syria-1-.html

Saudi Arabia and Egypt called for a “peaceful handover” of power in Syria where more than 60,000 people have been reported killed since the protests against President Bashar al-Assad began nearly two years ago.

“A peaceful exit is an Arab and international demand,” Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal told reporters today in Riyadh, after talks with his Egyptian counterpart, Mohamed Kamel Amr. “It is up to the Syrian people to decide the conditions of the exit from power” of al-Assad.

Amr called for “stepping up the efforts to achieve a peaceful handover of power.”

241. Tara

Al Khatib has been named the leader of the “Sole representative of the Syrian people”, a huge responsibility, almost like a president. Yet his actions and declarations are the ones of a bad school teacher. He has antagonized just everybody by taking incoherent positions.

I think that he is discredited and much more isolated than Bashar al Assad who at least has the support of many big powers and many Syrians.
Khatib’s friends are now limited to Qatar and Turkey and his voice among the Syrians is getting dimmer and dimmer.

If he resigns or is replaced, it would be a devastating blow to the opposition.
As for Souhair Atasi, she is the “sound of silence” since she took a politically responsible role.

Assad gangnam style

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/khaled-mahmoud-prisoner-lebanon-turns-emir-syria
From a Lebanese jail to djihad in Syria

Came across this bit of info on a major website……

The battle that raged starting December 9 in the Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp (south of Damascus) has revealed new alliances.

The strategic objective was to involve Palestinians in the war in Syria, mobilizing them on a sectarian basis (they are mostly Sunni) against the secular regime. But the refugees did not allow themselves to be manipulated, no more than in Lebanon in 2007, when the mercenaries of Fatah al-Islam tried to mobilize the Palestinians of Nahr el-Bared against Hezbollah.

Not only made up of Muslim extremists, but also included Israeli Mossad agents. They had specific plans to corner the leaders of other Palestinian factions and eliminate them. Not finding them, they allowed the other members of Al-Qaida to systematically loot the empty apartments of these leaders.

Is that why Turkey now has NATO troops to protect them against the bad, bad Syrians?

From the Queen’s Canada WSS defended his war propaganda regarding alleged video proof of government atrocities.

There is NO evidence of Syrian government atrocities or the Western news media would trumpet such proof all over TV screens. It’s that simple. Even professional liars like Anderson Cooper – remember “Syrian Danny” and “Gay Girl in Damascus” – won’t use FSA, or “activist” (terrorist), videos as proof.

What there does exist is lots of PROPAGANDA and FAKED videos such as the one below.

As I stated elsewhere, the videos serve several psychological warfare purposes, one of which is to convince the Salafist apes horrid SAA crimes are happening thereby boosting their collapsing morale and their rage. The videos also hope to convince gullible Western governments so these governments step to their aid (because without direct NATO intervention the apes of the FSA have no hope).

For example, today the desperate King of Nothing Moaz al-Khatib begged the world to intervene to save the terrorist’s bacon from the fire of the SAA:

“In an open letter Friday Ahmed Moaz al-Khatib, head of the National Coalition of Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, implored the U.N. Security Council and world leaders to take action.

“‘Our people are subjected to genocide and our country is being destroyed as the international silence is only encouraging the regime to commit more crimes against humanity,” he wrote. “Halting massacres in Syria is an international obligation everyone should bear responsibility for.'”

One thing al-Khatib has learned is how to crawl. I wonder if he wrote the letter in Turkish?

On with the show:

Low-IQ FSA Terrorists Film a Bad Propaganda Film to Accuse Syrian Army of Robbing and Destroying Homes

Published on Oct 23, 2012
A badly made propaganda film by the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) has surfaced on the web supposedly depicting what the al-Qaeda sympathizers refer to as Assad’s Shabbiha from the Syrian Army stealing and destroying civilians’ homes. The comments made by supporters of the FSA terrorists show that they believe this and are convinced that these are Assad’s men who are doing this.

Take a couple of minutes to watch this video and you will laugh at how pathetically stupid these people really are. Such propaganda has been used from the onset of the armed uprising against the Syrian government by the Muslim Brotherhood/Salafi/al-Qaeda alliance. Their followers fall for it and carry weapons to join the terrorist networks.

Zoo

The disconnect is that for you there is no life after Batta. For us, life starts at his death.. We are resolute and determined and will continue our struggle until then. We have nothing to lose after he killed our children, demolished our houses and raped our women. And if he to kill one more child and rape one mor women, it will make us more determined.

Our red line is clear. Remove Batta from the seat and let’s negotiate. We are open to anything else ONLY after Batta vanishes.

More on the pious Mother Agnes de la Croix:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/302606/assad-s-houla-propaganda-aymenn-jawad-al-tamimi#

http://orientalreview.org/2011/10/15/the-christians-of-the-orient-stand-up-against-the-new-western-colonialism/

Its hard to believe that Pather Paolo is part of the same church.

Lol

For those who wonder where Santa Claus went after X Mas

https://twitter.com/NMSyria/status/287608542704316417/photo/1

Syrian Rebels Praise Bin Laden, Celebrate 9/11 Attacks
http://youtu.be/vsq5ZRir-0k?t=16s
01/01/12) Footage of a Syrian Opposition Demonstration in which participants sing an Al Qaeda song reminscing upon the ‘sweet memory’ of the 9/11 attacks and praising Bin Laden as their leader. This isn’t the first time the song has been featured at opposition demonstrations at which Al Qaeda flags are commonplace.

Basic Verse translation of the song in question which is a well known Al Qaeda hymn.

“If they call me a ‘terrorist’, I would say: ‘It is an honor for me’
Our terror is praised, with a divine calling

Our leader, the Mullah (Omar), did not forsake his religion
All the soldiers have sold their souls to Allah

Our leader bin Laden, America’s worst nightmare
With the power of faith and our weapons

We destroyed America with a civilian plane
The World Trade Centre was turned into a pile of rubble

#248 Tara

I am fully aware of your obsession with Bashar perceived as the “evil” that must die.

Only time will tell if the fate of Syria will change to better, if this happens.
Please don’t give me the argument “it may take a few years then it will better because the Syrians are mature “.

In Iran, it’s been 30 years and it is not yet “better”, and the iranian revolution has never reached the cruelty and the immaturity that we have seen in Syria.
Now there are more Iranians who are fleeing Iran than when the Shah was there. They are tired of waiting that it “gets better”. Many have not gone back for 30 years or more.

The US Is Waging An All-Out Proxy War With Russia In Syria
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-proxy-war-russia-syria-2013-1

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Military pilots who refuse to follow orders to bomb areas with heavy civilian population have few choices,the easiest is to defect, armed rebels are partners in the crime , since they started trying to hold areas they ” capture” people got nothing but destruction and misery.

The Taftanaz ‘victory’ has been postponed, Daraya is about to be freed from the terrorists and Jubar is following closely.
It seems that the FSA would badly need some convincing videos of ‘massacre’ or ‘chemical weapons’ or ‘cluster bombs’ to compensate for the humiliation of this debacle.
They maybe starting to understand that without a serious foreign military help, they have no chance to win a fight that the Syrian population of the large cities is not cooperating with.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/05/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE8AJ1FK20130105?rpc=401

“The rebels appear to have failed so far to seize a northern air base at Taftanaz after an assault in recent days; the base is still in government hands and Observatory chief Rami Abdelrahman said it had been quiet since Friday.”

Government forces fired rockets at Jobar, a Sunni enclave close to the centre of Damascus, a day after bombarding Daraya, a suburb in the east and part of a crescent of rebel-held areas on the outskirts, said Housam, an activist in the capital.

“The shelling began in the early hours of the morning, it has intensified since 11 a.m., and now it has become really heavy. Yesterday it was Daraya and today Jobar is the hottest spot in Damascus,” he said by Skype.

#248 There are 22 millions Syrians. Currently about 150k-250k rebels (with foreign Jihadists). 60k people have died.

To continue fighting in order to remove Bashar, it may cost well over another 100k Syrian lives. By that time, the country will turn into ruins and what will happen after he is gone could be a even bloodier age.

I am not even going to bring up the possibility that he might not be the one to lose the fight in the end.

The silent majority of Syrians have had enough. Their voice is the true voice of Syria eventually.

People like you or anyone in the same mindset just don’t get it. The war might be your war right now, but it won’t be your future.

Rebels are not getting more substantial weapons from ”sponsors”. Fresh recruitment is not catching up (just checking what are left at those refugee camps)

Bashar and his army are having upper hand right now. So if they have initiated negotiation, better join it now.

Otherwise, their army will be pondering even hard until they get the opposition to be forced to sit down.

But for what will be costing to the country and her people, is it worth it to stick to your ideological fanaticism and personal vendetta.

The Syrian army strategy is now clear:
– Harass the rebels in the ‘liberated areas’ as this would trigger the exodus of the civilians, pressure the international community and weaken the rebels protection they were getting from the civilians presence.
– Block roads that provide food and fuel to starve the rebels in these areas. Now Turkey is feeding them by sending flour and fuel ( and possibly weapons)
– Clean up all the areas around Damascus so the rebels have no retreat than the ‘liberated’ areas in the North. Around Damascus, the rebels and the terrorists are getting limited support from the population. They also cannot count much on support from Lebanon, Jordan or Iraq for food and amunitions anymore.
As they move back to the North, this create a de facto partition of the country, one managed by Syria, the other by Turkey.

Therefore Turkey and the rebels are in dire strait in the ‘liberated’ areas. Qatar’s money to the rebels seem to have dwindled. It is possible that, under US pressure, KSA has stopped paying the salaries of the FSA until they get rid of the Al Nusra terrorists.
The question is:
Have they come to a sufficient level of hopelessness that they will accept the Geneva and the UN plan, or they need more time, therefore more death?

How in the hell could there be a peaceful way out of Syria conflict!

Syria’s Alawite area Assad’s last resort: analysts
AFP

Brahimi announced a proposal to end the conflict in Syria through a ceasefire, the formation of a new government and elections.

But the plan did not specify the fate of Assad, whose departure is a given for the Syrian opposition before any national dialogue can take place.

Peter Harling, a Syria specialist at the International Crisis Group, said the Assad regime has stuck to the same logic since the crisis began.

“He believes he is defending himself, and by extension Syria, against an aggression that leaves him no other option,” Harling said.

It follows that the violence is not Assad’s fault but the product of a conspiracy, for which there is a solution.

“That solution will not come from him, but from his enemies, who will at some point realise that the price of change is too high and abandon their undertaking.”

The regime, which maintains a cohesive core and military power, can “continue to raise the stakes as it has done for nearly two years in the hope that someone will offer a solution that takes their interests into account,” Harling said.

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Zoo,

Yes. You are well aware of MY obsession that Bashar must vanish ( via death, and I will accept exile). What you are not well aware of is that this is the “obsession’ ( if you will ) of 16 millions Syrians too if not more. When you get yourself to be aware of that, then we may find a solution.

And BTW, I do not despise “my family”. I just pity their hunger and greed.

Drop Dr. Phill role-playing. I like you the way you are.

“The Taftanaz ‘victory’ has been postponed.”

One clueless tweep said rain (and fog) was holding up rebel victory at the base – someone asked him if it was raining bullets. He didn’t laugh.

Glory to the Syrian Army! Long live Bashar! Syria is free!

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Assad accused of fabricating al Nusra?

http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=2&id=32442

“The al-Assad regime has mastered the art of propaganda and fabrication.”

“We have to realize, based on this huge amount of eviden
ce, that al-Assad is not stupid, as some like to portray him,”

“There are jihadist and national groups that have been fabricated or infiltrated and their major objective is to dismantle the revolution’s gains and turn the rebels’ weapons against each other so that the Syrian people will be preoccupied by discord and sedition for long years to come and the Syrian people will wish to return to the al-Assad era.”

#260 Tara

16 millions supporters of this mess? 70% of the Syrian population? Not in your wildest dream…

Please could you provide the source of that bold statement.

Recently the NY times article that I posted talked about the importance of the ‘undecided’. How many do you think that they are to be significant in swaying the balance?

Tara why not say everyone in Syria supports whatever it is you support.

Beheadings. Rape. Theft. Salafists. Takfiris. Al-Qaeda. al-Nusra. Murder. Foreign puppets installed by the US. Traitors. Qatar. Israel. Turkey. France. UK. Saudi princes. Fairy tales.

Your desperation is naked to me.

Zoo, Revenire et al… a few simple q’s:

1) What is your end game? Assad stays in power, rebels get eliminated, and 3rd generation Assadi becomes president? Please explain what you would like to see happen?

Personally, I would like to see Assad, his inner circle (Alawis and Sunni, other) all brought to justice and executed. I am certain that had Israel attacked Syria, it would have caused less innocent civilian casualities and damage.

2) If we would to entertain the outlandish claim that every single video was fabricated and not a single conclusive proof of the army/shabiha/police were shooting and killing peaceful protestors, then who? Terrorist? If the regime was unable to protect the people from a few dozen (or few hundred) terrorist, snipers, CIA, and turban-clad-sharia-suckers, then they have failed miserably and are incomptent to govern and protect its citizens. Why weren’t you calling on the Baath to protect your Syrian brethern then or step down?

#266 Hussam

For me , the end game is the Geneva plan under the UN ( with US and RUSSIA) supervision. That’s the only plan that would guarantee a transition to a more democratical Syria while stopping the beastly war that is going on.

Anyone who rejects that plan, under any pretext, bears the full responsibility of the incurring violence.

“‘The Syrian Diary: Unimaginable Crimes Committed by Terrorists “Who Operate with International Media, Military and Financial Support”’

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-syrian-diary-unimaginable-crimes-committed-by-terrorists-who-operate-with-international-media-military-intelligence-and-financial-support/5317466?print=1

Terrorists Attack Psychiatric Hospital in Aleppo, Kidnap 250 Patients

TEHRAN (FNA)- Armed rebels attacked a psychiatric hospital in Aleppo, Syria’s second largest city, on Saturday and plundered the hospital’s drug supply and kidnapped 250 mentally ill patients.

The terrorists also abducted several medical staff along with the 250 patients and took them to an unknown place.

Ibn Khaldoun Hospital is located in Jabrin district in Eastern Aleppo.

Terrorists have tried hard in the last few weeks to make Syrian cities unsafe, specially for citizens, but the army has purged them from most neighborhoods and districts, killed hundreds of them and arrested many more.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since March 2011 with organized attacks by well-armed gangs against Syrian police forces and border guards being reported across the country.

Hundreds of people, including members of the security forces, have been killed, when some protest rallies turned into armed clashes.

The government blames outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorist groups for the deaths, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

In October 2011, calm was eventually restored in the Arab state after President Assad started a reform initiative in the country, but Israel, the US and its Arab allies are seeking hard to bring the country into chaos through any possible means. Tel Aviv, Washington and some Arab capitals have been staging various plots in the hope of increasing unrests in Syria.

The US daily, Washington Post, reported in May that the Syrian rebels and terrorist groups battling the President Bashar al-Assad’s government have received significantly more and better weapons in recent weeks, a crime paid for by the Persian Gulf Arab states and coordinated by the United States.

The newspaper, quoting opposition activists and US and foreign officials, reported that Obama administration officials emphasized the administration has expanded contacts with opposition military forces to provide the Persian Gulf nations with assessments of rebel credibility and command-and-control infrastructure.

According to the report, material is being stockpiled in Damascus, in Idlib near the Turkish border and in Zabadani on the Lebanese border.

Opposition activists who several months ago said the rebels were running out of ammunition said in May that the flow of weapons – most bought on the black market in neighboring countries or from elements of the Syrian military in the past – has significantly increased after a decision by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other Persian Gulf states to provide millions of dollars in funding each month.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107133141

“Glory to the Syrian Army! Long live Bashar! Syria is free!” #261, revenire

yes.

cackling witch will now choke on her tongue. 2016 not in her future.

kerry assigns team to disguise surrender.

Zoo,

It is not my fault that I can’t provide you a documented source for my assertion. It is the Prethident’s fault. He never allowed free election for (20-8) years. And his father too before him for additional 30 some years. Blame him, not me.

“Glory to the Syrian Army! Long live Bashar! Syria is free!” – revenire

too good not to repeat.

…and

jewish west, jewish toxic dumpsite, save $30 trillion. you owe syria big time.

Morsi in 2010: No to Negotiations with the Blood-Sucking, Warmongering “Descendants of Apes and Pigs”; Calls to Boycott U.S. Products

http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3702.htm

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Taqqiyya soonites once more exposed!

Maybe some of the poor mental hospital patients taken by the FSA were given Twitter accounts like Mouna Hashem or Amal Hanano? Just joking. Don’t decapitate me and feed my body to the dogs.

Morsi is the darling of Obama – too funny. The Muslim Brotherhood has long been a fly in the ointment. Hafez knew how to deal with them.

#268 Revenire

I think the soonites will coerce these poor defenceless mentally handicapped people to become suicide bombers; just like how they did in Iraq! There is no depths to which soonites will sink to in their demonic lust for power!

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Al Qaeda use two Down’s syndrome women to blow up 99 people in Baghdad markets

Al Qaeda fanatics plumbed to sickening new depths yesterday when they turned two women with Down’s syndrome into human bombs to kill 99 people in Baghdad.

The unwitting pawns were apparently fooled into wearing explosive vests which were then detonated remotely by mobile phones as the women mingled with crowds.

The two blasts caused carnage at two busy markets in the Iraqi capital’s deadliest atrocity since last spring.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-511678/Al-Qaeda-use-Downs-syndrome-women-blow-99-people-Baghdad-markets.html#ixzz2H8McJFpc
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I am sent this by a troubled friend who tries to know which is which

http://syic.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/information-about-the-geneva-conference-of-the-syrian-opposition/

Anyway, as soon as I saw ” the Syrian opposition from the inside”, I recognized the one that opposes the Revolution. period.

and what I always believed : the West waits for Bashar to finish his deadly job of crushing all resistance

Glory to the Syrian Army!
Today, Syrian special forces unit in the province of Aleppo was liquidated terrorist from “Al-Qaeda”, Kuwaiti Abdullah Al-Buraq.

Glory to the valiant Syrian Arab armed forces!
In the province of Damascus in the Duma unit commander was killed, “Al-Qaeda” terrorist group “Livu Al-Islam” Muhanad Al Bakar. He was a citizen of Jordan and Syria fought as a mercenary.

Gee

How can we sleep tonight, the big eye doctor announced that he will speak tomorrow. Lets put the speech together, I am sure its an joined effort anyways:

Dear fellow Syrians,

I am your President, I know you hardly recognize me…

Lets guess how many rounds of aplause we will see this time, and how many guys will come up with spontanous praises of the President.

“Liberated” Kafranbel finally made a cartoon everyone can enjoy:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/252114_466257086771934_2020128264_n.jpg

Reve

Do you go into your basement when you want to laugh?

BREAKING NEWS – RATS FIGHTING AMONGST THEMSELVES IN ALEPPO

edward dark ?@edwardedark
@MalikAlAbdeh yes, this is true. Jabhat Al-Nusra wants to take over several parts of rebel controlled Aleppo away from the FSA

5m edward dark ?@edwardedark
@h_l_jenkins actual armed fighting and deaths on both sides.

18m edward dark ?@edwardedark
@tahtakuslar yes, main groups are Tawhid vs Nusra, with lesser groups taking one side or another. regime using this to push into rebel areas

21m edward dark ?@edwardedark
As for rebel factions in the North Aleppo countryside, there is also some inter fighting between rebels from neighboring villages #Syria

22m edward dark ?@edwardedark
parts of Aleppo, FSA units are fighting Islamist factions over territory & spoils of war disputes, as well as ideological differences #Syria

24m edward dark ?@edwardedark
seems its official, inter rebel fighting has broken out in Aleppo between regular FSA affiliated units & extremist Islamist groups #Syria

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UAE refuses to free detained Egyptians: reports

The United Arab Emirates has rejected a request by Egypt to free 11 of its citizens held on suspicion of training Islamists in how to overthrow governments, local newspapers reported on Saturday.

Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood last week said some of the detainees were its members and demanded they be freed, saying they had been wrongfully arrested.

The UAE has long voiced distrust of the Muslim Brotherhood that helped propel Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi to power last year after the overthrow of veteran ruler Hosni Mubarak.

Egypt sent a presidential aide and its intelligence chief, General Mohamed Shehata, to the UAE for talks following the arrests.

“They (UAE officials) explained that a suspect cannot be released before the case goes to court,” the English-language Gulf News reported, adding the Egyptian delegation was told the UAE had a ‘strong court system and justice will take its course’.

The Arabic-language al-Khaleej said the 11 suspects were under investigation by state security prosecutors over “serious charges”.

The oil-producing UAE arrested about 60 Islamists last year, accusing them of plotting to undermine governments in the Gulf region.

Al-Khaleej, citing an unnamed source, last week said there were close ties between Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood and leaders of the UAE Islamists in detention. It said the detained Egyptians had given “a number of courses and lectures … on elections and ways to change systems of government in Arab countries”.

Mahmoud Ghozlan, a Brotherhood spokesman in Cairo, rejected the charge that the 11 were seeking to destabilize the UAE.

The son of one of those arrested said his father, Ali Sonbol, was a doctor and not involved in political activities.

Relations between Egypt and the UAE soured after Mubarak – a longtime Gulf ally – was toppled in 2011.

Last month, UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan summoned Egypt’s ambassador over claims carried by Egyptian media that the UAE was behind a plot against Egypt’s leadership, saying they were “fabricated”.

The Brotherhood has sought to reassure Gulf states that it has no plan to push for political change beyond Egypt’s borders.

Thanks to their state-sponsored cradle-to-grave welfare systems, the UAE and other Gulf Arab monarchies have largely avoided the unrest that has unseated long-serving Arab rulers elsewhere in the past two years.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/05/us-uae-egypt-brotherhood-idUSBRE90405220130105

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The Ikwani Caliphate project is encountering resistance!

Leaked tomorrows speech script

Hopefully the last time Al Manar reports from Saida Zainab shrine

Gee what will tons of producers, song writers, singers do after the fall of Assad?

Feel like an unroarious laugh?

Headline: “Iran Stresses Rejection of Foreign Intervention in Syria”

(http://www.sana-syria.com/eng/22/2013/01/05/460379.htm)

281. JUERGEN

Let’s see how much further his head has shrunk and how all that violent macho burning of Syria still hasn’t helped him grow a proper mustache.

Zoo @266,

Are you talking to yourself again?

It looks like if you cannot find a partner to share your gibberish with, you become creative.

Taftanaz airbase commander is now history in lowest hell.

Congratulations to the heroes of the FSA, and particularly to the Nusra among them.

291. Visitor

It’s better I speak to myself than to Salafi puppets. They are deaf and repeat the same boring song.

#284 Reve

The FSA is been rotting from inside like dead wood with the Al Nusra virus for a few months already. It will be soon destroyed not by the Syrian army but by the islamists Al Nusra and company and the scarcity of the promised military help from the FOS.

It seems that Qatar and Turkey have lost control of the situation and Al Khatib is now begging the international community to intervene to save them.

Juergen @287,

This is what Zoo likes best.

Is Assad speech going to be in public or is he too afraid of being out in the open?

How is sleeping under the bed going for him ? Does he feel protected enough? He should try to hold on a teddy bear..

Bashar will speak sunday
http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/assad-to-speak-as-u-s-deploys-patriot-missiles-near-syria

The pro-Syrian Lebanese daily, Al-Akhbar, said Assad was ready to offer a “solution” to the conflict.

Citing anonymous sources, the paper said Assad may submit a five-point plan that would not preclude him from contesting the next presidential election when his current term ends in 2014.

The plan also provides a ceasefire, allowing international observers to monitor its application, a constituent assembly to draft a new constitution, forming a national government and holding free elections for a new parliament, it said.

During his latest visit to Damascus, U.N.-Arab League peace envoy Lakhdar Brahimi had mentioned a plan, based on the Geneva declaration, that talked of a ceasefire, forming a government and holding parliamentary and presidential polls.

The Geneva plan put forward last June would see a transitional government in place, but it does not refer to Assad going—a condition the opposition insists on.

The Syrian authorities have not responded directly to Brahimi’s plan, which the envoy believes could be adopted by the international community, but have said that they are ready to respond to any plan through dialogue.

Foreign fighters using Yarmouk as base: ex-Arafat aide

Published Saturday, January 5, 2013
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/foreign-fighters-using-damascus-refugee-camp-base-ex-arafat-aide

Foreign nationals are using the Palestinian refugee camp of Yarmouk in Damascus as a base to fight the Syrian government, a former adviser to late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat said Saturday.

“We’re calling committees in the camp and people there told us that foreigners are shooting at anyone that moves,” Bassam Abu Sharif told Palestine’s Ma’an news agency.

“They’re using the camp and the people of the camp as shields to attack government forces.”

Abu Sharif called on the United Nations to declare the camp a disaster area and dispatch international troops to protect civilians.

296. Tara

Worry more about the shock that the opposition will get tomorrow…

#293 Visitor

Sorry, correction: “The twin Salafi puppets”

One of them has returned to his cave to digest his eternally failed predictions but he will come back with fresh ones we are avidly waiting for.

A big welcome to Chuck Hagel.
Finally a non war-monger at this post…

Obama set to nominate Israel lobby critic for top Pentagon post

Published Saturday, January 5, 2013

President Barack Obama may round out his new national security leadership team next week, with former Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska as the front-runner for Defense Secretary.

Foreign Policy magazine reported Friday that sources close to the nomination process had confirmed that Hagel was indeed in the expected pick, and that logistics and timing were being finalized.

Zoo @299

Agree. His appearance is so repugnant that it skocks the audience.

I must go shopping tomorrow. Shopping is the only way that would enable me to digest reading about his speech tomorrow.

You must be too excited about him talking tomorrow… Would you be able to sleep today?

Zoo @300,

Obviously now you’re becoming confused. But this is normal for puppets of mullah-apes.

But, truthfully, I’m preparing myself for tommorow’s shock and awe barks from the Zoo.

Comment 301 is meant to start as Zoo @298,

I am sure current Zoo 298 appeared as Zoo 300 at the time of posting.

A new “stick and carrot” plan by the opposition to accelerate the ousting of Bashar Al Assad

A Syrian way out of the civil war (to be hopefully endorsed at the next FOS meeting in Italy)

By David Ignatius, Published: January 4
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/david-ignatius-a-syrian-way-out-of-the-civil-war/2013/01/04/4bd67e20-5619-11e2-bf3e-76c0a789346f_story.html

To help oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, an opposition group has drafted a plan for a transitional justice system that would impose harsh penalties against die-hard members of his inner circle but provide amnesty for most of his Alawite supporters.
…
The plan was prepared by the Syrian Support Group, which backs moderate elements within the Free Syrian Army, with help from international lawyers. The proposal has been communicated to leaders of the National Coalition of Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, the umbrella organization for anti-Assad rebels. Advocates hope that the international community will also endorse the plan at the next Friends of Syria meeting in Italy.

The idea is similar to the “truth and reconciliation” process that helped resolve bitter conflicts in South Africa, Rwanda and Northern Ireland. “It sends a strong positive signal to the people of Syria that victory for the rebels is inevitable” and that the new government “will deliver justice, compensate victims and be compassionate towards all,” explains a legal memo prepared by McCue & Partners, a London firm that is advising the Syrian Support Group.

The transition process would begin with the identification of 100 regime insiders whose defection could accelerate Assad’s fall. Some of these Assad supporters might be offered partial amnesty if they agreed to cooperate. The sooner they defected, the more leverage they might have under a future government. As part of the political transition, a compensation fund would be created to aid victims of the war.

301. Visitor

Take a good dose of prozac and a good session of prayers and meditation otherwise you may get into one of these tantrums of uppercases and insults that I have often seen.
Thank God, you are still less hysterical than your twin.

I’m going to wait for Songa Yonga version of the speech, like he did last time
http://youtu.be/gtn28YVyG3c

Bassil says Lebanon should limit Syrian refugee influx

BEIRUT: Energy Minister Gebran Bassil defended his stance with regards to the rising number of Syrians in the country, saying Lebanon should set limits to the refugee influx.

“We are facing a rapidly developing situation which led us to take a clear stance on two points: the first is to limit the influx of refugees from Syria but not close the border and the second is to lessen the burden on Lebanon,” Bassil said during a news conference in his Batroun residence, north of Beirut.

“No one said anything about expelling refugees or returning them home,” he added.

Bassil came under fire in recent days for suggesting Lebanon’s borders should be closed to refugees given that Lebanon is incapable of meeting the demands of thousands who have fled violence in their home country.

To address the alarming humanitarian situation of the refugees, the government approved Thursday a comprehensive plan that appealed to Arab and international countries to cover nearly $180 million of refugee costs that Lebanon is unable to provide.

Bassil rejected the proposal, along with other Free Patriotic Movement ministers, suggesting instead the closure of Lebanon’s border with Syria as a measure to stem the flow of refugees.

During his conference, Bassil said that Lebanon should adopt strategies such as ones taken by Turkey and Jordan which sets conditions for the refugees and a limit to the number of people it can provide shelter to.

Over 170,000 Syrian refugees have arrived in Lebanon since the conflict erupted in Syria in March 2011, in addition to nearly 15,000 Palestinians who have fled to Lebanon following last month’s fierce clashes in the Palestinian refugee camp of Yarmouk in Damascus between government forces and rebel groups.

As for the security concern with regards to the presence of Syrian refugees in Lebanon, Bassil quoted Interior Minister Marwan Charbel who said there were training camps for fighters in the country.

“The interior minister himself spoke of training camps for Syrian fighters. And we saw Syrians fighting in Tripoli, not to mention that the Army has detained Syrians who were fighting in Qasqas, are these actual refugees?” he asked.

“Lebanon has an obligation toward Syrians and it is to stand by it but we should look into our resource available for the refugees. What about the repercussions from such an influx?” he added

As part of the government’s plan for the refugees, Adnan Mansour contacted Arab League chief Nabil Elaraby Saturday and put him in the picture with regard to the Syrian refugee situation in the country and informed him “that he [Mansour] will send him a memo stipulating Lebanon’s desire to call for an exceptional meeting of Arab foreign ministers to discuss the issue.”

Elaraby, according to Mansour’s press office, said he will hold his own talks and call for a meeting in the next few days.

Bassil also spoke about Lebanon’s experience with refugees and said the country should learn from its own history.

“We cannot part ourselves from our previous experience such as that we have with Palestinians although the circumstances were different. But the result should be taken into account,” the minister said.

He added that When Palestinians arrived to Lebanon in 1949, no one thought they would stay.

“All we want is for Palestinians to have their right of return but nationalizing them has been proposed,” he said.

Bassil also cast doubt on the accusations directed at him for suggesting controls of the influx of refugees.

“In response to our stance, they called us racist and sectarian or that our remarks serve an electoral purpose. This response raised our doubts that the situation is not normal and that there is someone taking advantage of the influx,” he said.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2013/Jan-05/201044-bassil-says-lebanon-should-limit-syrian-refugee-influx.ashx#ixzz2H9QTV7yJ
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

Zoo,

How many posts has this been over the last 24 hours? I mean, I post often (a lot), but you post twice or three times as much. The word “obsession,” I think, can be applied in your case.

The regime can adopt whatever strategy that it wants. But the pattern of the war is clear:

The rebels make dramatic gains.
The period of gains is followed by a long period of stalemate.
The rebels then make dramatic gains again.

This is the normal pattern of a successful guerilla war. The government loses ground slowly. Currently we’re in stalemate again (after a period of dramatic gains), but a look at the progression of the war over the last year has shown that overall the rebels have been winning. The FSA control more territory and weapons then even 6 months ago, while the regime has obviously weakened.

The regime can try to starve the FSA areas all they want. It doesn’t matter. People will complain about the FSA, but they hate the regime more because they know who is starving and bombing them.

Zoo @304,

Do upper case letters bother you?

You must be in a constant state of depression, and no doubt you keep good supply of Prozac near your keyboard.

What else do you do besides commenting on SC?

Out of the last 304 comments, 66 are made by you. That is more than 20% the total.

If I were you, I would ask Landis to augment your branch 225 payouts, since it will be running out of money soon. Landis will have no choice but to agree. Because he is smart enough to figure out that if you stop commenting, the comments for his posts will be reduced by at least 50% considering the simultaneous disappearance of all those comments that respond to your gibberish.

Think about it. If you do not believe me just read latest MGR. He read my mind while typing this comment and we almost posted at the same time.

From OpenDemocracy, Our guide to the best of the Arabic blogosphere in 2012”

Rita from Syria

First and foremost, one of our own bloggers – Rita from Syria – deserves recognition for the quality and courage in her work. Writing anonymously from Damascus, often under great strain and danger, Rita has provided a window onto the situation that few others can match. Although the nature of the conflict means that most information abroad comes from external sources, the people of Syria do have things to say and we need to be listening to them. In Rita’s own words:

“the danger of being killed has become easier than you can imagine. Everyday, we lose a colleague or a friend and despite the fact that I got used to death, sometimes I fall into complete frustration.”

Her work deserves to be read and her fears deserve to be recognized.

“Rita” is a careful, clear writer (with a brilliant translator), and her stories are both intelligent and sober, with a rare objectivity. They will not satisfy those with fixed and rigid ideological lenses …

I highly recommend the very informative, detailed and moving “Having tea with the enemy on the Syrian border,” which was writted in early September.

Excerpt:

While not far away the Free Syrian Army (FSA) were making bonfires from similar images, at the heart of the guesthouse where FSA members dropped me off, hung a portrait of Bashar al-Assad decked out in military fatigues.

Not far away the FSA are making bonfires from similar images…

Although such an image may not be out of the ordinary in areas of Syria under the control of the regime, in this town it looked out of place. Jibata al-Khashab, located on the Syrian border with the occupied Golan, has been under the control of FSA battalions for the past two months. During this time the town has been subjected to a suffocating siege by Syrian regime forces that surround it on all sides, able to prevent much needed food and fuel supplies from coming in – and amplifying the suffering of its residents.

So I am confused: the very idea of being in the home of a family supporting the regime has got me worried. What is the FSA doing dealing with supporters of the regime? However, my doubts are rapidly dispelled by the hospitality I receive at the hands of the guesthouse owners. Majida, my host, smiles when I ask her about the impact of her pro-regime position on her relations with people who seek refuge in her home. She tells me, “Our homes have always been open to strangers and all those who need our help, this is our upbringing and our traditions and even though our political opinions are not in agreement at all with the opposition, at the end of the day we are all Syrians”.

@ Everyone

The reason why the regime strategy of starvation will not work is this:

People may complain about the FSA, but they hate the regime more. They know that it’s the regime that is bombing and starving them. They may complain about the FSA, but they’re not going to accept the regime.

The Russians tried this strategy unsuccessfully in Afghanistan too. People starved, but the fighting continued. How long will the regime stick to this strategy before they realize it’s not working either?

I think all of us who are posting on SC are obsessed to variable intensity. Let’s face it. Liberation of Syria will not pass through SC and the State Department is not waiting for an opinion poll on SC to decide on next step. We are all here because of some psychological needs to be here. And during a time like this, it is just understandable.

Yes, but I stop posting at times because I have to work and sleep, and see my friends in real life.

We’re all a little obsessed, but Zoo’s obsession is approaching pathological levels. I mean, the poor guy has been posting the entire day, and most of yesterday too.

The fact that other posters are commenting about how often he posts (and not about the content of his posts) should be a warning sign. You think? Recently we’ve been talking more about Zoo’s and Revenire’s psychological states than about Syria

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5. ????? ???? ????????? ???????? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ????? ????? ?????? .
6. ????? ????? ????? ???? ????? ??? 3 ??? ?????? ” ??????? , ?????? , ??????? ” ??? ?? ???? ???? ??????? ????? ?? ” ????? ???? ” .
7. ????? ?????????? ???????? ??????? ??? 2014 ??? ?? ????? ?????? ????? ? ?????? ???? ???? ?? ???????? ? ???? ????? .
8. ??????? ??? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ? ??? ???????? ????????? , ? ?? ????? ???? ????? ??????? ? ??????? ?????? ???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?????? ? ???? ????????? ?????? ???????? ?? ??? ??????? ???????? ? ?????? ??? ??????? .

Saving Syria may still be possible after all.

Nope. Unacceptable.

Assad leaves. Another candidate can run. But Assad cannot.

The war continues.

The FSA and their supporters will not accept it. No one trusts Assad or the regime. As I’ve said before, the regime is politically dead.

Even if some moderates accept this plan, the others will just say to them: ” Do you trust Assad?: Even those moderates will have to say, “no”, in which case the plan is rejected.

Everyone on the opposition will see it as a plan to split the opposition and to buy the regime more time. They will not see it as a genuine offer of negotiation. In fact, there’s almost nothing the regime can do (except to send Assad to exile) to get the opposition to trust them anymore.

At this point even sending Assad to exile will probably not end the war. But it would be a step in the right direction.

Yes Unacceptable. My opinion too. Batta must be eliminated first. Otherwise the war continues.

Marigoldran,

I post just as much.

To be mesmerized 24/7 to the screen on SC, reading each and every comment, then responding gibberishely to each and every one with the same monotonic message is a sign of depraved life.

Thanks to branch 225, as Ali showed us, it made such life possible for some for a while.

As much as me, maybe. But not Zoo.

Have you made 66 posts out of the last 300?

The important question now is if the coalition going to accept or be forced to accept Batta’s plan?

With the Western governments taking more measures to prevent foreign fighters helping the revolution and exerting more influence on Qatar and Turkey not to provide weapons..are we up to a protracted struggle or is it that the FSA never really got any outside material help and the blessing from the western government is not needed?

Is the speech tomorrow planned by Ibrahimi?

REVENIRE

You are beginning to expose that your posts here are not only a game for you – it’s professional.

You are aggressivly using textbook tactics. But making statements that reveal you haven’t closely followed the Syrian issue in the media for the past 20 months. Not so clever.

Maybe you’re a team, as with “ANN”

It doesn’t matter what the coalition does. It will be determined by the fighters on the ground.

The NC has not delivered weapons or more aid. So why should the FSA listen to them? The West has almost no influence on this war, anymore. That time has passed.

Ibrahimi can say what he wants. It’s his job to try for negotiations. But it’s pointless.

Majed97, thanks for the excerpt (at #313) from Green Edleb News Network‘s Facebook page. If any of the points they mention are what the President will present today, this makes the GENN a much more forthcoming news outlet than SANA, who had this to say and only this to say about the speech:

???? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ??? ??? ????? ????? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ????????? ?? ????? ????????.

President Bashar al-Assad will deliver a speech on Sunday on the latest developments in Syria and the region

(in the previous speeches, the President was carefully stage-managed with a compliant audience. It will be interesting to see if he uses a new venue … and especially if he uses frank language — and most intriguing if he deigns to take unscripted questions … )

Here’s an awful Google machine translation of the points posted by Majed97 above:

Expected to result from the speech outlines the following:

1. Announced the start of an initiative to resolve the crisis under the name “Geneva 2” to ensure Moscow and Washington.

2. Declaration of a ceasefire by all parties to the whole territory of the Syrian Arab Republic while retaining the right to respond, and the deployment of international observers to the application of the cease-fire.

3. Stop funding and arming terrorist groups in Syria guaranteed by armed U.S. and stop the supply of fighters and their intelligence support, under penalty of a direct response to the sponsor.

4. Lift the lid on terrorist groups armed and fired by the army and the armed forces to crush all terrorist groups and especially the Front victory with international guarantee not to support terrorists and send them to Syria.

5. Announcement of the date for parliamentary elections under international supervision to elect a new board of people representing all spectrums of the Syrian people.

6. Announced the formation of a government of national unity that includes 3 main blocks “independents, Baathists, opponents” to be the head of an independent government or “national shows.”

7. Presidential elections timing in 2014 to run President Assad and rivaled the candidate for the opposition and an independent candidate.

8. Stressing Syria’s right to support the Palestinian cause and support the Lebanese resistance, and the right of Syria as guaranteed by the law and the international community to retrieve the entire occupied territories in the Syrian Golan and the banner of Iskenderun Syrian occupiers by the Zionist enemies and Turkey respectively.

On another topic, that of OBSESSION, let us not pretend that frequent posters can easily affix that pseudo-psychological label to The Other, while absolving themselves.

ZOO is an intelligent man, educated and cultured. He now represents the only sane(ish) regime supporter in the commentariat. What he writes most often resembles pure Baathism. That is his stance, and he is neither more nor less obsessed than anyone else here (excepting the nutterzone).

If you (like me) find his editorializing tedious and evidence of cult-thinking, he still posts from a variety of sources that might otherwise not appear here. We can quibble with his choice of the SUN, Tony Cartalucci, bedsit+webcam Russian Today also-rans, Daily Mirror, and the troubled nutterzone voices like Stephen Lendman, but that is what the comments are for — argument, discussion. If, like me, you find the editorializing and spin unusually snide, be glad that ever more snide and heartless editorializing is available in the archives.

Take a lesson from TARA: she has affection for ZOO because of his devotion to and love of Syria (for the things both value, not Baathism) — and she (mostly) lets his snide and abusive generalizations slide over her. She cannot understand his moral blindspots, but who can? Like me, she may believe that no one this passionate could be as snide, condescending, and contemptuous in real life — that this is Baathism talking, not ZOO himself, the loving man.

I look forward to ZOO’s nine-hundredth iteration of ‘Turkey’s/KSA’s/Khatib’s/Qatar’s/France’s/Miss Piggy’s ‘humiliation,’ and to his rather juvenile psychological diagnoses (and to his odd obsession interest in slurring all opposition into one big pot of Evul).

But I most look forward to him offering a coherent, realistic plan for ‘dialogue’ … since he most often represents pure regime thinking, tactics and obfuscation. It is as if we had Aunty Bouthaina here daily trotting out the same stale talking points and out and out boners. This allows us good if not complete knowledge of the cult of delusion (the Bubble) that now engulfs the Bashar/Saviour clique. The best clue to what the regime will say, do and evade comes from him. It’s a feature, not a bug.

Here’s a lovely piece of artwork from the folks at Green Edleb News Network. This is far madder and far more demented than anything ZOO can provide, credited to war pornographer Basel Deeb.

http://i.imm.io/RQWf.png

WSS please get over yourself. All one has to do is review your TL to see delusions and pornography. You sit in judgment of ALL with a hubris that is both amusing and repulsive.

On another note is “Rita” the new “Gay Girl in Damascus”? A new “Syrian Danny” for us to ridicule and titter at?

Dear WSS @321

Your posts cry for a cup of Turkish coffee in a Damascene Veranda.

Glorious fantasy: Assad’s speech is to announce he is taking early retirement and say his farewells.

Mysterious entity REVENIRE is on a roll!

All one has to do is review your TL to see delusions and pornography. You sit in judgment of ALL with a hubris that is both amusing and repulsive.

You mean my Twitter timeline, right (https://twitter.com/wsscherk)? Have you been having a good time reading it? If so, why don’t you say ‘Hi’ or fuck off or something on Twitter? Or better yet, let readers here have a look at your own timeline?

No? Awwww.

On another note is “Rita” the new “Gay Girl in Damascus”? A new “Syrian Danny” for us to ridicule and titter at?

You can proceed to ridicule “Rita” as you wish. I am sure we all look forward to your titters, brother. This will of course mean that you might have to read one or two of her entries, and then offer up an analysis.

But why don’t you slur her work as a hoax a la Gay Girl without bothering to look? Poring over my Twitter posts taking up too much of that prime ‘analysis’ time between Bonanza reruns and your bedtime bowl of bile?

WSS,

I can’t be bothered to waste precious time reading sexed-up nonsense about the suffering of terrorists. They should suffer.

When the president speaks today we all know those terrorists will suffer even more as they are forced to listen to Assad’s speech. They’re running low on ammunition, starving and freezing to death in blown-out hovels. Morale is lower than you can imagine. FSA members are surrendering weeping and begging not to be executed.

And understand this: at the end of the day Assad is still the president of Syria.

This isn’t a dream. It isn’t even a nightmare.

And, to put a point on it: if what I say was not true we would not see reports from FSA-sympathizers of these childishly named brigades falling on each other and killing each other. We see reports verifying this daily from Syrians, like poor Edward, who were once supporters of the rats. Combine that with the mass media stories of the FSA killing each other over stolen loot and territory – like dogs marking a spot – and it becomes clear to all sober-minded analysts that I am correct.

The only thing holding together sections of the FSA (it never has been cohesive) is drugs.

Many FSA brigades are refusing orders and remaining in backlines looting. Check your sources FSA supporters – see if I am wrong or see if I am right.

The situation is hopeless for the FSA. They can’t mount serious attacks on Syrian cities. They can’t hold territory.

I am fine with whatever Assad decides but I pray he will NOT negotiate with the rats and allow his army to destroy them all. Syria’s soldiers are begging to be unleashed.

Pessimistic about the speech. He is not going to solve anything except if he announces that for the sake of the country he is stepping down.
And even then… but still, it would be a beginning.

A relatively new group

In a nutshell
Almost two years after Syrians started demonstrating for freedom and democracy, the violent repression of the movement has set the country in flames. Every new day of bloodshed makes hatred grow. Syria has tumbled into sectarian war. Whenever fighting will stop: huge efforts in terms of reconstruction and reconciliation are needed to build the new and united Syria as a free and inclusive country, based on democracy and human rights.

We, a group of people based both in Europe and the Middle East, feel compelled to take action. We have all worked in Syria or neighbouring countries and we share a rich expertise in peacebuilding, humanitarian aid and interfaith dialogue. With the direct involvement of local communities, we want to combine practical help with reconciliation and peacebuilding. Our immediate goal is to offer a space for the youth from Syria of all faiths and affiliations, women and men. We are going to unite moral authorities of different confessions around this common cause.

With your help, we are going to start working in Lebanon, where thousands of Syrians have stranded as refugees. As from the beginning of 2013, we want to establish our first Peace Centre in the border region to Syria: a house that will serve as safe place for young people from all confessions, where experienced psychologists will treat war traumas and where educational staff will help to develop skills and arts. We will also provide for material help and advocacy where needed.

Some of us are already on the ground, carrying out the necessary needs assessments. Winter is arriving and the conditions of Syrian refugees are dramatically worsening. We need your donation, as small as it might be, to offer relief and reconciliation.

https://www.facebook.com/relief4syria
and
http://www.reliefandreconciliation.org/

Donations http://www.reliefandreconciliation.org/donate-now.html

Preparing peace

New post and thread started

The ‘liberated areas ‘ continue to empty from civilians fed-up with the rebels’ inability to feed them and insure their security.

Nearly 9,000 Syrians flee to Jordan in six days

Country is now hosting around 290,000 refugees, official says
AFP
Published: 16:59 January 6, 2013
Gulf News

Amman Nearly 9,000 Syrians, mostly women and children, fled to Jordan over the past six days to escape the bloodshed in their homeland, a government spokesman said on Sunday.

“Some 8,835 Syrians fled to the kingdom since January 1 this year,” said Anmar Hamoud, a government spokesman for Syrian refugee affairs.

“Most of them are women and children who came from Syrian southern areas, including Daraa.”

Annie why would anyone give money to that organization when the funds would end up in the hands of terrorists?

The new Bashar speech by Songa from the
Chinese revelution
http://youtu.be/HGFeprXZwUo

@48 Marigoldran,

The drive for total victory in the Second World War left almost the entire continent of Europe decimated, devastated, and starving, to say nothing of large parts of Asia. Even fortunate countries like the “victorious” UK endured strict rationing of food and fuel for years after the war’s end. For less fortunate countries, such as China or Greece, the war did not end in 1945; instead millions more would perish or be maimed in fighting for raged for a long time to come.

Is that the future you want for Syria? To be like Europe in 1945, after the glorious Allied total victory? With half the cities burnt, with millions of displaced persons, under foreign occupation and divided into spheres of influence for decades to come?

Keep desiring the “unconditional surrender” of your enemies, and that future could be yours. Is that the duty to your country that you were born to fulfill?

Note that the demand for “unconditional surrender” in WWII was made by the statesman of a country which was located furthest away from the struggle, and which was not directly affected by the fighting. Please bear that fact in mind.

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