Ahmedinejad in Lebanon
Posted by Joshua on Friday, October 15th, 2010
For a good summary of views on Ahmedinejad’s Lebanon visit read Paul Woodward at “War in Context.”
He quotes Nicholas Blanford:
When Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tours Lebanon’s border with Israel today, he may pause a moment to consider that Iran owes its existence as a Shiite nation to the ancestors of those living in these rural hilltop villages.
Iran wasn’t always the center of Shiite scholarship
In the early 16th century, the center for Shiite scholarship was in an area known as Jabal Amil, a rugged hill country that conforms closely to the geographical perimeters of modern-day south Lebanon. When Shah Ismael I, the Safavid ruler of Iran, introduced Shiism as the state religion in the 16th century, he turned to the scholars of Jabal Amil to help promulgate the new faith….
Qifa Nabki does his usual good job explaining popularity polls in the Arab World and in particular why both Ahmadinejad’s and Nasrallah’s stars dimmed after 2008 and why Turkey’s Erdoghan and Venezuela’s Chavez shone so brightly.
Nussaibah Younis writes:
Nasrallah was the real star of the show. …. Nasrallah spoke mindfully of his larger audience in Lebanon, and tried the novel approach of presenting Iran’s foreign policy as “unifying”. He praised Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, for issuing a fatwa forbidding Muslims to react to the Qur’an burning-fiasco in the US with “similar acts”, claiming that Iran was acting in the best interests of Christian-Muslim unity. He also congratulated the Iranian cleric for his handling of a highly controversial London conference in which a little-known Shia activist disparaged Aisha, the wife of the prophet Muhammad, who is highly revered by Sunnis but considered a traitor by many Shias. Iran’s supreme leader Khamenei had responded with a statement forbidding insulting talk about the wives of the prophet, thereby – according to Nasrallah – acting as a force for unity between Sunnis and Shias.
Ahmadinejad draws large crowds, wary officials in Lebanon
Lebanese leaders portray his visit as routine as thousands turn out to greet him in Beirut’s pro-Hezbollah Shiite areas. An open letter urges him not to interfere in internal matters through Hezbollah.
October 13, 2010|By Borzou Daragahi and Alexandra Sandels, Los Angeles Times
……. Officials of the two nations signed humdrum trade agreements, praised one other and ate lunch at the palace of President Michel Suleiman. Ahmadinejad presented Suleiman with a gift: a computer equipped for nanotechnology research.
“I came at the official invitation of the government,” Ahmadinejad said at joint news conference. “Our message is one of unity and cooperation.”
During an evening appearance before thousands in southern Beirut, he said: “Lebanon is a green garden with many flowers from many faiths and religions.”
But from the beginning, the choreography of Ahmadinejad’s trip overshadowed his carefully chosen words. Emphasis was on Iran’s relationship with Hezbollah, which operates as a state-within-a-state and sometimes eclipses the power of the Lebanese government.
Arriving with an entourage that filled two Boeing 707s, the Iranian president declined to take an official helicopter ride from the airport to the presidential palace in the Beirut suburb of Baabda.
Instead Ahmadinejad opted for a slow-moving convoy of black SUVs that waded through huge roaring crowds waving Iranian flags in the mostly Shiite southern suburbs of Beirut. Hezbollah security forces guarded the way.
Standing through the car’s roof, Ahmadinejad waved at the crowds who showered him with flowers and sweets. Hezbollah took the liberty of canceling grammar school classes in southern Beirut so children could attend.
After the stuffy luncheon with the suits, Ahmadinejad broke free from his official entourage and basked in the adulation of massive crowds in southern Beirut, a Hezbollah stronghold.
Referring to Israel, with which Hezbollah fought a war in 2006, he declared: “The illegitimate Zionist regime is a permanent threat to the region and all the world governments.”…
A senior Israeli official: “Lebanon has joined the axis of extreme nations which object to the peace process and support terror,” (Haaretz)
According to Hezbollah’s broadcasting network al-Manar, before departing the country, Ahmadinejad met with Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah at the Iranian embassy in Beirut and received a gift from him – the personal weapon of an IDF soldier seized during the Second Lebanon War.
Alex watched it on TV and sent these remarks:
He just made it very clear that Iran and Hezbollah want to erase Israel and establish Palestine “from the sea to the river”
And he wanted nothing less than an independent investigation of 9/11
And he just said that any spark that comes from the Zionist entity will shorten the life of their entity that never stuck by its promises to anyone and that never respected international law .. and “let everyone know that the presence of the Zionist criminal entity on even one foot of Palestine is an encouragement of murder”
He said the solution … the only solution is to recognize the right of return … the return of all the Israeli occupiers to their original countries. Or else … the anger of our people will make them disappear …
And I demand of some of the countries in our region (Moderate Arabs I assume) to understand and to allow its people to support the Palestinian people as they wish to … Any party that tries to normalize with the Israeli entity will be isolated.
Stratfor: From the Syrian point of view, Lebanon is not just a natural extension of Syria; it is the heartland of the Greater Syria province that existed during Ottoman times. Since the days of Phoenicia, what is modern-day Lebanon has been a vibrant trading hub, connecting routes from the east and south to the Mediterranean basin. For Syria to feel like it has any real worth in the region, it must dominate Lebanon.
Ahmadinejad tells Lebanese at rally near Israel border: The Zionists will disappear Haaretz. “Ahmadinejad welcomed by thousands of people in Bint Jbeil, location of heavy fighting during Second Lebanon War, where signs hang praising Iranian president as ‘protector of resistance’.”
Comments (26)
Syrian Nationalist Party said:
What a great man from a great nation.
October 15th, 2010, 1:42 am
why-discuss said:
In Ahmadinejad’s Lebanon Visit, the Ruins of Bush’s Mideast Doctrine
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2025713,00.html?xid=rss-fullworld-yahoo
By TONY KARON Tony Karon – Fri Oct 15, 8:05 am ET
As Israeli bombs killed hundreds of Lebanese in the summer of 2006, then-U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told the people of Lebanon that they were simply experiencing “the birth pangs of a new Middle East.” That new Middle East was on view during the two-day visit to Lebanon this week by Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad – and it looks nothing like the vision pursued by the Bush Administration’s military-driven strategy of dividing the region into “moderate” and “radical” camps locked in a fight to the finish.
Ahmadinejad is certainly in deep trouble at home, and grandstanding in the international limelight of controversy, whether at the United Nations last month or on south Lebanon’s border with Israel on Thursday, certainly offers temporary respite from domestic challenges. Even while his thugs have managed to quiet the streets from protests by the Green Movement, his mismanagement of Iran’s economy, amplified by the bite of sanctions, and his alienation of rival conservatives and of the clerics, has prompted vicious political infighting inside the corridors of power. But while Iran’s president may be enjoying an opportunity to change the subject, his Lebanon visit nonetheless underscores three harsh truths for the U.S. and its allies. First, Iran is not nearly as isolated as Washington would like; secondly, the Bush Administration efforts to vanquish Tehran and its allies have failed; and, finally, the balance of forces in the region today prompts even U.S.-allied Arab regimes to engage pragmatically with a greatly expanded Iranian regional role. (See TIME’s top 10 Ahmadinejad-isms.)
Part of Ahmadinejad’s agenda was simply to strike a defiant pose, affirming Iran’s “resistance” posture and saluting its Hizballah protege for successfully resisting the 2006 Israeli invasion the Islamist group had provoked by snatching Israeli troops from across the border. The presence of the Iranian President, Israel’s self-styled nemesis, declaring in the border town of Bint Jbail that “the Zionists will eventually disappear,” may also have been intended to warn Israel off attacking Iran. Tehran has equipped Hizballah with a massive missile arsenal that many believe would be the first line of retaliation should Israel attack Iran’s nuclear facilities.
Ahmadinejad’s visit could, in fact, be deemed something of a belated victory lap celebrating the collapse of the erstwhile U.S. strategy. The Bush Administration may have hoped that its own invasion of Iraq and Israel’s attacks on Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in late 2008 would strike decisive blows against Iran and its allies and turn the regional dynamic in favor of the U.S. But in all three places, Iran’s influence was actually strengthened. If Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki succeeds in winning a second term in office in Iraq, he’ll owe his reelection to Iran’s intervention to win him the necessary backing from its Shi’ite political allies. The U.S. may have hoped that Israel’s 2006 offensive would finish off Hizballah but the movement is both militarily stronger and more firmly entrenched in Lebanon’s body politic than ever before, with an effective veto power over government decisions. And neither the Israeli military campaign that began in the final days of 2008 nor the economic blockade of Gaza has managed to dislodge Hamas, while Washington’s own Palestinian ally – President Mahmoud Abbas – has grown steadily weaker.
So, while the U.S. fretted that Iran, through its support for Hizballah, was undermining Lebanese sovereignty, it lacked the clout to persuade a Lebanese government led by pro-Western parties to block Ahmadinejad’s visit. Instead, tens of thousands of Lebanese, mostly Hizballah supporters, turned out to salute their movement’s patron. But the Iranian president didn’t confine himself to huddling with Hizballah. He also met with Lebanon’s Christian president, Michel Suleiman, and also with the Saudi- and U.S.-backed Sunni prime minister, Saad Hariri. The latter meeting was particularly significant, because Hariri leads a coalition that has fought against Syrian and Iranian influence in Lebanon through Hizballah. And a U.N. investigation into the 2005 murder of Hariri’s father, former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, is believed to be planning to accuse members of Hizballah of the killing. Hizballah has denounced the investigation as an Israeli plot, and has warned that any move against Hizballah could bring down Hariri’s government, causing political chaos and quite possibly renewed violence.
The leaders of Syria (which backs Hizballah) and Saudi Arabia flew to Beirut together in the summer, in an unprecedented show of unity aimed at dissuading their Lebanese allies from allowing the Hariri murder probe to disrupt the country’s fragile stability. While Ahmadinejad’s presence could be read as reinforcing a “don’t-touch-Hizballah” message, he also appears to be placing a heavy stress on Lebanese unity and the need to avoid division. And he reportedly canvassed Saudi, Syrian and Jordanian leaders ahead of his trip. So he may be hoping to consolidate Iran’s regional gains by signaling an intention to avoid intra-Arab confrontation in Lebanon. After all, while they will push back against Iran’s role in the Arab world, even Arab regimes that are allies of the U.S. are forced by the relative strength of Tehran’s allies there – Hizballah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza and the Shi’ite parties in Iraq – to seek a pragmatic modus vivendi that acknowledges Tehran’s influence. President Bush’s idea that the region’s radicals could be eliminated in a winner-takes-all showdown has proven to be a chimera.
October 15th, 2010, 11:15 am
why-discuss said:
Syria offers Maliki a life jacket
By Sami Moubayed
DAMASCUS – After a 14-month absence, Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki returned to Damascus on Wednesday, turning a page with the Syrians after he provoked a diplomatic crisis with them last August.
The former Damascus resident, hours after returning from a similar visit to that capital, accused the country of harboring Iraqi Ba’athists that allegedly carried out a triple bombing in Baghdad that killed over 100 civilians. The Iraqi ambassador was quickly withdrawn from Damascus – only to return last Sunday, three days ahead of Maliki’s visit.
For weeks, positive gestures have been exchanged between Damascus and Baghdad, and Maliki’s visit was an expected culmination of the warming relations.
The rapprochement begun with a visit by Maliki’s government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh in August, and was followed by a phone conversation between Maliki and his Syrian counterpart, Prime Minister Naji al-Ahmed, in September. A senior delegation from Maliki’s State of Law Coalition (SoL) then went to Damascus, followed by the return of Iraq’s ambassador on October 10.
Maliki’s visit to Syria comes amid a prolonged political crisis in Iraq that has lasted since its March election. Many believed that Syria and Saudi Arabia would ensure that Maliki was replaced with former premier Iyad Allawi, who had won a majority of 91 seats in parliament in the vote. However, neither Allawi nor Maliki have since been able to form a majority and end the stalemate.
Allawi is strongly allied to the Sunnis and preaches a secular agenda that differs greatly from the religious path Maliki has drawn since he became prime minister in 2006. The Saudis saw Maliki as a sectarian politician bent on empowering Shi’ites at the expense of Sunnis, while Syria was furious with Maliki for what happened in the summer of 2009.
Disappointed with Maliki, Syria saw him as an ungrateful neighbor who had blamed Syria for those infamous bombings to cover up for his own faults in managing Iraq’s security.
The Syrians had hosted Maliki in Damascus for more than 10 years, adamantly refusing to extradite him during the Saddam Hussein era. When he became prime minister a Syrian embassy was opened in Baghdad, helping legitimize Maliki in the eyes of ordinary Iraqis – especially Sunnis. This also helped promote him in Arab circles, where he was seen as a creation of the Iranians. Taking his cue from the Middle East neighborhood that was seemingly very hostile to Maliki, Allawi invested in a relationship with the Syrians and Saudis.
By September, however, Arab capitals had reasoned that Allawi would never make it to the premiership, regardless of how many seats he commanded in parliament. Simply put, he could not form a cabinet on his own – needing a total of 163 seats – which his Iraqi National List did not have.
Coinciding with this shift in Baghdad were several back-to-back visits by Iraqi players to Damascus, including Vice President Tarek al-Hashemi, Shi’ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, Ammar al-Hakim of the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council (SIIC), and Allawi, who was in Syria two weeks before Maliki’s visit.
The Syrians made it clear to all their visitors – Maliki included – that they would not interfere at a micro-level in Iraqi politics, stressing nevertheless that any government needed to include all parties, Shi’ites, Sunnis and Kurds.
The Sunnis and Kurds have to date been reluctant to support Maliki’s bid for office, for different reasons. The Sunnis did not trust Maliki, who had reneged on all promises made to them in 2006. He has not issued a political amnesty to set thousands of Sunnis free, done nothing about repealing the infamous de-Ba’athification laws that were passed in 2003, and repeatedly failed to disarm Shi’ite militias.
He persecuted armed Sunni tribesmen, known as the Awakening Councils, and refused to empower Sunnis within the government. When they collectively walked out on him in 2007, he did not lift a finger to appease them. Only Syria can talk them into a change of attitude today, Maliki has reasoned, offering to grant concessions that he had repeatedly refused since 2006.
Syria has the ear of influential Sunnis – tribesmen, notables and former Ba’athists – and can talk them into a u-turn if Maliki agrees to give them proper representation in any new government. He would also need to issue the general amnesty, revoke the anti-Ba’athification laws, and take serious action against armed militias, be they Sunni or Shi’ite.
Maliki appears to have reasoned that it was foolish – to say the least – to cross the Syrians over a matter that did not concern them. After all, the August bombings were followed by similar horrific attacks in October and December 2009, proving that the root of the problem was security in Iraq itself, and not Iraqi fugitives living in neighboring Syria.
By blaming it on the Syrians, Maliki actually enabled the real culprits – al-Qaeda – to repeat the same terrorist stunt within a four-month interval. The group reasoned, having got away with it in August, that Maliki would be incapable to stop them as this would entail admitting that security was completely lacking in Iraq.
Maliki also reasoned that just like having a Syrian ambassador in Baghdad did wonders to his image in the eyes of Sunnis, withdrawing him in 2009 had the exact opposite effect. Legitimacy granted – legitimacy withdrawn – is how Maliki viewed his diplomatic row with Damascus.
It was one thing to be recognized by a pro-Western country like Jordan, for example, but something completely different when this legitimacy is granted by a country like Syria that still preaches a strong brand of Arab nationalism and continues to champion the Palestinian cause.
Shortly before the Maliki visit, Allawi seemingly threw in the towel, agreeing to support a different candidate for the premiership – Adel Abdul Mehdi of the SIIC. Allawi’s chances of becoming prime minister, amid the new mood in the Arab neighborhood and within Iraq itself, have seemingly shrunk to very low levels.
Maliki has offered him a seemingly perfect exit strategy – the post of speaker of parliament in exchange for supporting Maliki’s bid for another term. With Syria willing to give Maliki the benefit of the doubt for another round in office, several of Syria’s allies in Iraq are likely to follow suit, including Sunnis, Kurds and Muqtada.
Maliki has to live up to this new deal by seriously engaging all parties in the cabinet formation, making sure not to repeat the mistakes of 2006-2008. If not, he risks losing Syrian support all over again.
Sami Moubayed is editor-in-chief of Forward Magazine in Syria.
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October 15th, 2010, 11:27 am
John Eadie said:
This is brave stuff. I dearly hope they can survive the US / Israeli onslought when / if it comes.
October 15th, 2010, 2:14 pm
Alex said:
Tareq Alhoumayed, The editor of Asharq Alawsat, Saudi Arabia’s top newspaper wrote that the old equation (by Lebanon’s Nabih Berri’s) of S+S (Syria plus Saudi Arabia) that was essential for stability (and problem solving) in Lebanon is now replaced by a more complex one … S+S+I …. Iran being the third component.
http://www.aawsat.com/leader.asp?section=3&article=591165&issueno=11645
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This reminds me of a post I wrote for Syria Comment in 2007. I said the same thing at the time
https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=167
It was obvious since then … but this week’s visit made it easier for more people to notice the new reality.
October 15th, 2010, 10:03 pm
Alex said:
It seems that Iraqi former Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki, is ready to respect and approve Syria’s role in helping form the new Iraqi government. He reportedly told his President (Jalal Talibani) that he felt Syria is genuinely working for Iraqi stability and security and is supportive of the political process that should lead to forming the next Iraqi government without foreign interference.
In the past, Maliki always criticized Iraqi politicians who go to Syria to ask for advice or help.
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October 15th, 2010, 10:14 pm
Jad/2 said:
Nicholas Noe, “Time to Focus on Grievances in
Lebanon, Not Hezbollah,” Published: December 03, 2008
http://www.mideastwire.com/downloads/Time%20to%20Focus%20on%20Grievances%20in%20Lebanon,%20Not%20Hezbollah%20-%20Middle%20East%20Times.pdf
“(…)
The first step would be to recognize that many of Hezbollah’s stated grievances are shared by a broad cross spectrum of Lebanese – specifically, an end to occupied territory and persistent violations of sovereignty as well as the creation of a strong, state-led defense – and that, according to pro-opposition polling, most of those same people do not share the party’s other,
more radical goals.
By focusing on the supply side, i.e. those Lebanese who provide Hezbollah’s indispensable margin to maneuver, rather than on Hezbollah’s demands, one can sidestep entirely what Kramer considers the trap of thinking that Hezbollah “only pretend[s] to be faithful to Iran’s ayatollahs, [that] all their talk about ‘onwards to Jerusalem’ is rhetoric for domestic
consumption… [and what they] really want is to earn the Shiites their rightful place in Lebanon, and improve the lot of their aggrieved sect.”
Mohamad Bazzi: “Hezbollah & Iran: Lebanon’s Power Couple”
October 14, 2010.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/23163/hezbollah_iran.html
“..
Ahmadinejad’s visit “suggests that Hezbollah values its allegiance to Iran over its allegiance to Lebanon,” White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Wednesday.
Gibbs’s analysis is part of an effort by the Obama administration, along with some Arab and Lebanese critics of Hezbollah, to portray the Party of God as primarily an Iranian proxy. While Hezbollah has become more reliant on Iran in recent years, it is a mistake for Western and Arab policymakers to think they can undermine the movement’s base of support by casting doubt on its Arab or Lebanese identity. This approach also reflects a misunderstanding of Shiite history in Lebanon and why that community has grown so dependent on Hezbollah.
..”
October 16th, 2010, 9:24 am
why-discuss said:
Alex
Syria gives a life jacket to Malaki by Sami Mubayed
https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=7536#comment-240040
October 16th, 2010, 11:17 am
Ghat Al Bird said:
. A call for radical change in US Middle East Policy. By Charles Freeman.
http://warincontext.org/2010/10/16/chas-freeman-engaging-the-middle-east-after-the-cairo-speech/
October 16th, 2010, 3:38 pm
Alex said:
Thanks, Why Discuss.
I was in specifically referring to the way he did not change his tone after going back to Iraq, like he did after last year’s visit to Damascus.
I agree with most of Sami’s conclusions about Syria’s role in Iraq. Syria is indeed quite influential, but not to the degree he described it.
October 16th, 2010, 4:14 pm
Alex said:
After years of certainty, Robert Fisk finally refrains from assuming Syria killed Hariri:
http://assafir.com/Article.aspx?EditionId=1673&articleId=1775&ChannelId=39144
“Hariri’s complex relations with many parties allows you to imagine that anyone could have been his enemy … someone killed him, the bomb was real, but unfortunately, none of Lebanon’s political assassination mysteries since Lebanon’s independence in 1946 has been solved, no one has been arrested, and no one will”
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October 17th, 2010, 2:13 am
Ghat Al Bird said:
An English website reporter in Lebanon reports the following:
“A signature Israeli taunt during Iran’s Presidents visit was the launching of hundreds of blue and white balloons to catch the air current north to Bint Jbeil when Ahmadinejad was appearing.
“Some with insults written on them by children with magic markers and others were smeared with human feces, the spreading of the latter being an IDF insult employed over the past 45 years of incursions into Lebanon and Palestine when during occupations of Lebanese and Palestinian homes some Israeli soldiers create what they call “poop art” on walls, mattresses and other surfaces.”
Spreading “sh*t as insulting artit seems has become the symbol of Israeli Jews.
October 17th, 2010, 9:29 am
Ghat Al Bird said:
Syrian president to discuss bilateral ties, regional issues with Saudi king on Sunday
English.news.cn 2010-10-17 22:04:14
DAMASCUS, Oct. 17 (Xinhua) — Syrian President Bashar al-Assad will pay a visit to Saudi Arabia on Sunday to hold talks with Saudi King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz, Syrian news website Syria Now reported.
The two leaders will discuss major regional and international issues in addition to the bilateral relationships between the two countries, said the report.
Relations between the two countries have been strained since 2005 due to the accusation against Syrian of assassinating former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafic Hariri in 2005, a close Saudi ally in Beirut.
However, Assad paid a visit to Riyadh in January, 2010, showing the relationship between the two countries has thawed.
In July, Assad and King Abdullah paid an unprecedented joint visit to Lebanon in a bid to ease the tension between the Lebanese political powers over the international tribunal’s reports on the investigation of the assassination of Rafic Hariri.
October 17th, 2010, 10:41 am
Jihad said:
Better to Tareq Al-Houmayed to work as a janitor (even janitors have a professional conscience more than he does) than to write dumb commentaries in the Saudi rag published in London. Hell, but why not? Half of the Saudi “royals” are either illiterate like the so-called king Abdullah who can’t even talk straight Arabic or literally dumb who buy their diplomas from UK and US universities, like others “royals” in the Gulf.
Tareq Al-Houmayed is so dumb that he did not see that what he wrote in his latest piece is utterly stupid : ???? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ???? ?? ????? ????? ???????? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?? ???? ?????
Can the dumb editor in chief Tareq Al-Houmwayed tell his readers how can a table stand on two feet and not on three! As for the sectarian issue, his Wahhabi rag has been publishing hateful pieces directed against Muslim Shiites and against all those who oppose the US-Zionist-Wahhabi alliance in the Arab world for the last five years.
Crocodile tears he is shedding.
October 17th, 2010, 3:37 pm
Alex said:
Jihad
I hope my table with one leg wont get me the same label Tareq got 🙂
Check my 2008 article:
https://joshualandis.com/blog/?p=854
October 17th, 2010, 4:35 pm
Alex said:
And the emir of Qatar has one too!
October 17th, 2010, 4:45 pm
majedkhaldoon said:
in the next 6 weeks, one subject will be talked about a lot,Lebanon and the tribunal.
I do not think Iraq crisis is solved yet.
October 17th, 2010, 5:57 pm
Jihad said:
Hahaha. A nice table. I take it. But it has a base.
October 17th, 2010, 6:36 pm
Alex said:
: )
Shai
Thanks for posting Zvi’s article, I missed it.
No other Israeli journalist understands the Arab world better than Zvi Bar’el.
And to my friend Elias (Qifa Nabki), I’ll use a part of what Zvi wrote to remind him of my comments to him ten days ago:
October 17th, 2010, 7:27 pm
Norman said:
Alex,
It is so nice to see here again , hope all is well ,
October 17th, 2010, 7:44 pm
Ghat Al Bird said:
Alex add greetings to those of Norman. Trust Creative Syria is doing well.
Include the following link to several fotos you all might find grippingly disturbing
http://www.effedieffe.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29140:this-is-the-qjewish-stateq-warning-disturbing-photos&catid=35:worldwide&Itemid=152
October 17th, 2010, 8:02 pm
Alex said:
Thanks Norman and Ghat!
Ghat, some of these settlers who terrorize the occupied Palestinians and who are obviously supported (financially and much more) by Israel are … “terrorists”. Therefore, Israel should be on the list of countries that support “terror”.
Syria has been asking the United States to sit with the rest of countries in the Middle East to produce a definition of “terror”. But there is no interest from the Americans.
However, the link you provided has one image that should not be there. It is done by a Spanish artist and has nothing to do with Israel.
http://www.vosizneias.com/49691/2010/02/18/madrid-spain-criticism-against-controversial-sculpture-at-art-fair/
October 17th, 2010, 8:39 pm
Norman said:
Arab American should definitely have a media outlet so the Arab view can be seen , these pictures would change American and EU public opinion ,
October 17th, 2010, 8:50 pm
5 dancing shlomos said:
does fisk take directions from hariri.
syria is having fun with amurderka. to ask the leading terrorist to define terror is pricking the pig.
October 18th, 2010, 12:12 pm
5 dancing shlomos said:
re terrorism, the pig(aka israel’s sockpuppet and catspaw). a selection from essay by paul craig roberts:
The “war on terror” is now in its tenth year. What is it really all about?
The bottom line answer is that the “war on terror” is about creating real terrorists. The US government desperately needs real terrorists in order to justify its expansion of its wars against Muslim countries and to keep the American people sufficiently fearful that they continue to accept the police state that provides “security from terrorists,” but not from the government that has discarded civil liberties.
The US government creates terrorists by invading Muslim countries, wrecking infrastructure and killing vast numbers of civilians. The US also creates terrorists by installing puppet governments to rule over Muslims and by using the puppet governments to murder and persecute citizens as is occurring on a vast scale in Pakistan today.
Neoconservatives used 9/11 to launch their plan for US world hegemony. Their plan fit with the interests of America’s ruling oligarchies. Wars are good for the profits of the military/security complex, about which President Eisenhower warned us in vain a half century ago. American hegemony is good for the oil industry’s control over resources and resource flows. The transformation of the Middle East into a vast American puppet state serves well the Israel Lobby’s Zionist aspirations for Israeli territorial expansion.
Most Americans cannot see what is happening because of their conditioning. Most Americans believe that their government is the best on earth, that it is morally motivated to help others and to do good, that it rushes aid to countries where there is famine and natural catastrophes. Most believe that their presidents tell the truth, except about their sexual affairs.
The persistence of these delusions is extraordinary in the face of daily headlines that report US government bullying of, and interference with, virtually every country on earth. The US policy is to buy off, overthrow, or make war on leaders of other countries who represent their peoples’ interests instead of American interests. A recent victim was the president of Honduras who had the wild idea that the Honduran government should serve the Honduran people.
The American government was able to have the Honduran president discarded, because the Honduran military is trained and supplied by the US military. It is the same case in Pakistan, where the US government has the Pakistani government making war on its own people by invading tribal areas that the Americans consider to be friendly to the Taliban, al Qaeda, “militants” and “terrorists.”
Earlier this year a deputy US Treasury secretary ordered Pakistan to raise taxes so that the Pakistani government could more effectively make war on its own citizens for the Americans. On October 14 US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ordered Pakistan to again raise taxes or the US would withhold flood aid. Clinton pressured America’s European puppet states to do the same, expressing in the same breath that the US government was worried by British cuts in the military budget. God forbid that the hard-pressed British, still reeling from American financial fraud, don’t allocate enough money to fight America’s wars.
On Washington’s orders, the Pakistani government launched a military offensive against Pakistani citizens in the Swat Valley that killed large numbers of Pakistanis and drove millions of civilians from their homes. Last July the US instructed Pakistan to send its troops against the Pakistani residents of North Waziristan. On July 6 Jason Ditz reported on antiwar.com that “at America’s behest, Pakistan has launched offensives against [the Pakistani provinces of] Swat Valley, Bajaur, South Waziristan, Orakzai,and Khyber.”
A week later Israel’s US Senator Carl Levin (D,MI) called for escalating the Obama Administration’s policies of US air strikes against Pakistan’s tribal areas. On September 30, the Pakistani newspaper, The Frontier Post, wrote that the American air strikes “are, plain and simple, a naked aggression against Pakistan.”
The US claims that its forces in Afghanistan have the right to cross into Pakistan in pursuit of “militants.” Recently US helicopter gunships killed three Pakistani soldiers whom they mistook for Taliban. Pakistan closed the main US supply route to Afghanistan until the Americans apologized.
Pakistan warned Washington against future attacks. However, US military officials, under pressure from Obama to show progress in the endless Afghan war, responded to Pakistan’s warning by calling for expanding the Afghan war into Pakistan. On October 5 the Canadian journalist Eric Margolis wrote that “the US edges closer to invading Pakistan.”
In his book, “Obama’s Wars,” Bob Woodward reports that America’s puppet president of Pakistan, Asif Ali Zardari, believes that terrorist bombing attacks inside Pakistan for which the Taliban are blamed are in fact CIA operations designed to destabilize Pakistan and allow Washington to seize Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.
To keep Pakistan in line, the US government changed its position that the “Times Square Bombing” was the work of a “lone wolf.” Attorney General Eric Holder switched the blame to the “Pakistani Taliban,” and Secretary of State Clinton threatened Pakistan with “very serious consequences” for the unsuccessful Times Square bombing, which likely was a false flag operation aimed at Pakistan.
October 18th, 2010, 2:03 pm
Akbar Palace said:
Dancing Fool
Most Americans believe that their government is the best on earth, that it is morally motivated to help others and to do good, that it rushes aid to countries where there is famine and natural catastrophes.
Five Dancing Ahmads,
Your forgot to add that “most Americans” vote. I wish I could say the same about Arab countries.
October 18th, 2010, 8:46 pm
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