Activists Worry that Sanctions May Undermine Chances for Future Democracy

Posted by Joshua on Wednesday, May 23rd, 2012

Iranian activists and State Department Officials Argue over Sanctions and US Objectives in Iran
Since the story of the Syrian and Iranian opposition is similar in many ways and since both Damascus and Tehran are facing foreign sanctions and regime-change policies, a friend wrote to share this news of an encounter between Iranian opposition figures and State Department officials during a recent conference on Iran.

A couple of friends were invited to a conference last week to present the perspective of the Iranian opposition about the current situation in Iran. They told me that during their talk at the conference they lambasted the sanctions policy and told the attendants that sanctions are counterproductive and detrimental to the middle class in Iran and the opposition’s social base. When a State Department representative asked them “What do you expect us to do for Iran?” they said “Lift the sanctions. That would be the best thing you can do for Iran!”

My Iranian friends at the conference explained that one of the US diplomats said that the US priority in Iran is not human rights violations and not public opinion in Iran. Rather, the diplomat insisted that Washington’s main concern was Iran’s nuclear program, its impact on the security of Israel, and avenues for regime-change. He mentioned Pakistan as an example where regime-change is no longer possible because of its nuclear capabilities. The US diplomat added that regime-change causes instability which is dangerous in the case of a country with nuclear capabilities. So time is running out for regime-change in Iran. This triggered a quarrel between some of the Iranians and the speaker to the effect that one of the prominent opposition leaders retorted that the US should have no role in changing the regime and that it should be the choice solely for the Iranian people. He went on to ask that if the US was not concerned with human rights in Iran “why did you invite us here in the first place”! He said that we have been insisting that the human rights should be the central issue, however your strategic concern is the nuclear program.

Syria faces the same dilemma as Iran. Anti-Assad activists designed and lobbied for the sanctions imposed on Syria by the West. They wanted to undermine the regime and create an environment of crisis in the country with the aim of toppling the regime. With foreign powers unwilling to commit their air-forces, as they had in Libya, sanctions seemed like the best and only avenue open to Syrian activists and anti-Assad policy makers in the West.

The problem with sanctions is two fold. First they undercut the opposition almost as much as they do the regime. The mainstay of the opposition is the rural middle-class and poorer sections of the urban centers. These are the people who sanctions are hurting the most because the government can no longer provide fuel and food for subsidized prices, as it used to. Shortages and inflation will hurt the poorer groups within the Syrian population most. These are the groups most likely to support the opposition, but they will be least able to afford to fight, which is expensive. Foreign payments and subsidies, such as those promised by Saudi Arabia to the opposition can pick up the slack and begin to shift the balance of power away from the government and military and toward the opposition, but the money will have to come in large quantities. Saudi Arabia must effectively feed the Syrian opposition and its families before fighters will spend the money on arms. Few fighters will buy arms with foreign money before feeding their families.

The second major drawback of sanctions is that they destroy the middle class and standard of living for most Syrians, just as they undermine national institutions. The healthcare system, roads, schools, etc. will deteriorate quickly, as they did in Iraq. Without a strong middle class, the future chances of democracy diminish. As the per-capita GDP declines so do the chances that democracy can be established or survive. Iraq is faced with a generation of youth that is largely uneducated because of the impact of sanctions and the collapse of national institutions, including the educational system. The only social indicators that came close to predicting success in transitions to democracy are wealth per capita and the median age of the society. The richer the population and older the population, the greater its chances of making a successful transition from authoritarianism to democracy. Syria, unfortunately, has low per-capita wealth and a very young population making it a very bad prospect for democracy. The average age of a Syrian is 21 years old. Tunisia is 30. Egypt is 25 and Libya 26. Yemen is the only Arab country with worse prospects for a democratic transition than Syria. Its average age is 17. According to a recent study by demographer Richard Cincotta of the Stimson Center in Washington DC, “Autocracies with a median population age of over 30 years old are most likely to become liberal democracies.”

The explanation usually offered by political scientists for why income and age predict success with democratic transitions is that older and wealthier populations tend to be associated with mature, complex societies. As societies mature and acquire the institutions and infrastructures of developed nations – urbanization, higher income, women’s rights and education to name a few – birth rates tend to drop, the median age goes up, and incomes and literacy increase. All these factors reinforce each-other to suggest higher percentage success with cultivating and maintaining democratic institutions and culture.

If the crisis in Syria drags on for a long time, sanctions will have a very negative effect on all aspects of Syrian life. Yes, they will hurt the government and create a pervasive sense of crisis and regime failure, but they will have many other negative effects as well, such as plunging income levels, which will diminish Syria’s chances of becoming a democracy and getting rid of dictatorship.

News Round Up

Syrian rebels cling to bullets and hope
22 May 2012 by Martin Chulov in Jebel al-Zawiya

The Guardian reports: In the shadow of the monolith they call the Corner Mountain, Firas Abu Hamza was carefully counting his most prized possessions. He removed a dirty sock from his camouflage vest and spilled its contents, 13 old bullets, on to the fire-scorched concrete in front of him. “I’ll use them if I have […]

Abu Ahmed said he has lost scores of men to ambushes and detentions. A Saudi-based businessman until the uprising erupted, he returned to take a leadership role in the nascent guerrilla force. He now holds the rank of lieutenant colonel, one of about five such senior officers in the dozen or so villages between here and the encircled city of Idlib, which was retaken by loyalist forces in March.

“They are cruel and they are evil,” he says of his enemy. “And they will never stop killing and lying. To them and those who blindly back them, we are Muslim Brotherhood and Muslim Brotherhood is al-Qaida. Both claims are dishonest.”

At this base and all the others the Guardian visited during five days in Syria, a television was playing in the background. Each set of hosts would insist on showing the Syrian state TV channels, then the rebel-backed TV and pan-Arab networks.

On state television, the al-Qaida line is relentless. The narrative has become essential to the regime’s bid to hold on to power. Rallying support for state repression is easier when people believe it is needed to combat a global jihadist “terrorist” plot against a secular Arab nationalist state.

“They are always talking about al-Qaida,” said Abu Hamza of the state coverage. “They are stopping at nothing to make us look like devils when they know very well that the Free Syria Army are no more than men who have seen the light. Have you seen their claim that there are 3,000 foreign Arabs fighting here with us? There is not one.”

Rebel groups across Jebel al-Zawiya sense that the regime’s narrative of al-Qaida-backed groups taking a lead in the insurgency is starting to prevail – in the western psyche, in particular.

“Political Islam in Syrian Revolution“, published by Aljazeera Center for Studies

Syrian Heart Patients Set to Feel Economy’s Squeeze
By Donna Abu-Nasr – May 17, 2012

…“The economy is going to continue to decline,” said Ayesha Sabavala, a Syria economist with the Economist Intelligence Unit in London, in a phone interview. “But whether the economy will decline to the extent that it will actually cause the regime to change tactics — that is probably not likely. Not in the near term, anyway.”…

The pound has lost about one-third of its value, pushing prices higher and slashing the purchasing power of Syrians on fixed incomes. International embargoes have disrupted trade, bank lending has slumped and businesses have closed.The $65 billion economy shrank 3.4 percent in 2011 and will contract another 5.9 percent this year while the budget deficit widens to 18 percent of output, the EIU forecast in March. Central bank Governor Adib Mayaleh, interviewed at his office in Damascus on May 10, said inflation was 15 percent in January, while declining to give data for growth or other indicators.

Sanctions plus devaluation have left imports scarce or too expensive for many Syrians. At gas stations, long lines of men wait to fill blue or gray cylinders with cooking gas. Oil Minister Sufian Alao told state television on May 12 that local gas meets 60 percent of needs, and said he is working to avert shortages by finding new sources for the rest.

… More than 6,000 small factories and businesses closed last year, said Khandji, who runs a company that makes hair-care products. Some banks shut down in cities such as Homs that were the scene of the bloodiest clashes, she said.Tourism has ground to a halt after a boom between 2005 and 2010, when arrivals rose 14 percent a year and revenue exceeded $7 billion, contributing 12 percent of gross domestic product and employing 13 percent of the workforce, according to Tourism Ministry figures.

In the capital’s covered Hamidiyyeh bazaar, there are few customers at shops offering embroidered tablecloths, boxes studded with mother-of-pearl, Persian carpets and clothes made from Syrian cotton. Some salesmen play backgammon, others were gathered outside their shops for coffee and a chat. A jeweler said he has received some business from Syrians selling gold rings, pendants and earrings to help pay for food.

Agriculture Strong

Nabil Sukkar, a former World Bank economist and managing director of the Syrian Consulting Bureau in Damascus, which advises the government, businesses and international organizations, said private-sector job losses exceeded 100,000 last year, pushing unemployment above 20 percent. The government has reversed course from the liberalization it was pursuing before the revolt, and now employs more people. It also increased energy subsidies last year while maintaining payments for sugar, rice and pita bread.

Still, Sukkar said, the economy can survive the difficulties for at least another year. Agriculture, almost one- fifth of GDP, “is in very good shape because of two consecutive rainy seasons” and can make up for shortfalls elsewhere. Plus, Syria started the crisis with high foreign exchange reserves and low external debt of about $7 billion that leaves it room to borrow, he said.

‘Can’t Beat Us’

Sukkar cited the international embargo as Syria’s main economic challenge. “Unless the sanctions are removed, Syria is not going to go back to normal,” he said…

The Syian Paradox – May 22, 2012
New York Times Sunday Magazine, By ADAM DAVIDSON

….The Alawite ethnic and religious minority, which eventually assumed leadership of the party, was made up of poorly educated people from mountain villages who “knew nothing about running a country or an economy,” says Joshua Landis, a pre-eminent Syria watcher and a professor at the University of Oklahoma. The Alawites, he notes, had been given a role by the French colonial government in the military precisely because they had few ties to the majority Sunnis in the big cities: “They were very unsophisticated, and they didn’t have a deep community of cosmopolitan people from which to draw.” … As Landis notes: “They look out at the countryside and think: What if these people win? Are they going to respect capitalism? Are they going to preserve our wealth? Or are they going to come by and say, ‘Oh, you’ve been a collaborator for 40 years, and we’re going to take everything you own’? They don’t know.” …

Crony Capitalism, Syria Style – May 22, 2012
NPR – by Dan Kedmey, the Power of Money

Meet the guy who embodies everything that’s wrong with Syria’s economy. He’s the president’s cousin, and his nickname is “Mr. Ten Percent.”…

Damascus ‘Bubble’ Belies Violent Reality of Assad’s Syria
By Donna Abu-Nasr – May 22, 2012

Syria marked Traffic Day this month with five programs on state-run television and radio fostering road safety and responsible driving.

On the streets of the capital Damascus, motorists are lulled by sprinklers feeding lush traffic circles studded with yellow and purple spring flowers. The theme of benevolent government is underlined by news in Tishrin, the state-run paper, which reports that the state spent 80 million Syrian pounds ($1.25 million) last year treating more than 19,700 people bitten by stray dogs.

More than 14 months into the Syrian uprising, the government of President Bashar al-Assad is projecting a facade of normality belied by a breakdown in security and a proliferation of defensive emplacements. Photographer: Sasha Mordovets/Getty Images

More than 14 months into the Syrian uprising, the government of President Bashar al-Assad is projecting a facade of normality belied by a breakdown in security and a proliferation of defensive emplacements. Sandbags, blast walls and heavily armed men seek to protect government buildings in Damascus, where suicide bombers killed at least 55 and injured almost 400 in twin attacks on May 10. …

Omran al-Zoabi, a lawyer who’s a member of the ruling Baath party, said “the secret to Syria’s survival is that what’s happening here is not an Arab Spring.”

With a large, gold-framed photograph of Assad in military dress to his side, al-Zoabi said in an interview at the Damascus’ Lawyers Syndicate that the president will emerge stronger from the crisis.

‘In Our Heart’

Rabaa Shaalan, a 35-year-old mother of three who helps organize a weekly pro-Assad youth rally in front of the Central Bank, insisted “the regime will not fall.” As she spoke, her mobile phone rang, trilling a pro-government song called “In Our Heart We Chant Bashar.” She said her phone’s ringtone, like the photos of Assad on a pendant she wears, three pins on her lapel and her keychain, were expressions of her love for the 46 year-old president.

The belief among Assad supporters that the government is winning has several causes, Salman Shaikh, director of the Brookings Doha Center, said in an interview on May 15.

Assad has been given a breathing space by the international community and not least by UN envoy Kofi Annan’s cease-fire plan, which has failed to stop the bloodshed, he said. In addition, there’s not yet been any major organized effort to arm the opposition, allowing the government to continue its use of violence and intimidation, he said.

“Plus, the Iraq war in particular has seared a real indelible mark on this particular U.S. administration which is why it and other Western powers have up until now not provided the support and backing for what we all know is what is required” to unseat the government, Shaikh said….

Paul Salem, director of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace’s Middle East Center in Beirut, said the regime has “reached a plateau but certainly not a solution or a situation that they can sustain for very long.”

“Yes, they are trying to project normalcy, but the country is still largely paralyzed, the economy continues to be in very bad shape, they remain isolated and Damascus barely sputters along,” Salem said in a telephone interview.

Hizbullah And Its Proxies Expose Supposed CIA Activity In Lebanon, U.S. MEMRI

Book Review: Pierret, Thomas. Baas et Islam en Syrie: La dynastie Assad face aux oulémas. Paris, PUF, 2011.
By Erik Mohns in the Newsletter of the Syria Studies Association

…Only a small minority of Syria’s Sunnite ulama have distanced themselves publicly from the regime since the outbreak of the uprising. Their large majority has adopted a quietist posture towards the regime’s ongoing campaign of repression. This overwhelmingly complying stance of the religious establishment results certainly from direct threats and coercive measures by the regime. However, the reasons for this positioning of the Ba’thist regime’s traditional foes emanate from longer-term sociopolitical processes that Thomas Pierret’s remarkably riveting study of Syria’s religious field reveals.

Throughout the book’s five chapters, Pierret convincingly unrolls his central argument; namely, that the ulama have been able to adapt to challenges emanating from social change and the authoritarian context due their resource of tradition. …He analyzes how the ulama as ‘custodians of commodities of salvation’ have been able to hold on to their relative autonomy by demonstrating considerable flexibility in an ever-changing political contexts, even under authoritarian rule….

Pierret’s study …. refutes two common claims about Assad regime’s mechanisms of rule. It has widely been argued that the secular and Alawite-dominated regime lacks any substantive legitimacy among Syrian Sunnis. Pierret, however, reveals that the regime has been remarkably successful in the establishment of an ambiguous, but nevertheless robust relationship with the urban-based Sunni clerics, social actors that possess considerable credibility of many pious Syrian Muslims. He considers this ‘clergy-regime-partnership’ being embedded in the encompassing transformation of the regime’s social base in its post-populist phase, from its former rural-based, popular constituencies toward urban-based, socioeconomic elites, a dynamic that became all too obvious throughout the ongoing uprising.

The second, often-made assertion that the recent incremental reconstitution of the clergy’s social authority emanates from a deliberate policy by the Ba’thist regime to encourage a quietist and moderate form of Islam, is denoted by Pierret as an overestimation in the regime’s capacity as a ‘social engineer’. By retracing longer-term historical developments that led to the ulama’s considerable social following, he convincingly argues that the increased religious popular fervor and the concomitant influence of the Sunni clergy stems only marginally from the regime’s intervention into the religious field. Instead, the regime has rather accompanied this social process and strove to confine its political impacts by applying alternating, at times erratic strategies towards the Muslim clergy.

The traditionalist clergy’s hegemonic position within the religious field has not solely been based on the regime’s interventions, but rather by their access to considerable economic resources. The fourth chapter analyses the political economy underpinning the clergy’s continuous social power. The existence of a ‘clerical-mercantile complex’, designating as an alliance between the urban based ulama and the private sector, allowed an ever-growing enlargement of different forms of religious social action. The alliance does not only assure the clerics’ financial autonomy from the state, but enabled them to benefit directly from the economy’s liberalization. The state’s scare resources deprived it from upholding its welfare policies vis-à-vis a growing, impoverished population. In order to prevent potential destabilizing effects emanating from pauperization of large section of the society, the state liberalized its policy towards the welfare and enabled religious networks, in particular the Damascus-based Zayd movement, to establish a wide-ranging web of charities. Pierret argues that the alliance between middle-size entrepreneurs and merchants and the ulama is nurtured by mutual interests over which the state exercises only limited control. The ulama provide the private sector with social capital, trust and networks, while merchants and entrepreneurs provide financial donations, management expertise and relations to the security apparatus. In addition, both actors range from the same social merchant and commercial milieus and share often common familial origin. Through a thorough analysis of the parliamentary elections campaign in 2007, Pierret reveals that the religious men have moved even closer to the politico-military elite, resulting in an ongoing transformation of the clerical-mercantile complex. Financial donations by crony capitalists to the religious foundations during the electoral campaign appear to be too tempting to be refused by the clergy….

Pierret succeeds in drawing a number of general conclusions on the ulama’s modes of political action. First and foremost, the ulama are by definition representatives of a sectoral elite and their political engagement is always a secondary dimension of their social practice. Their political practice is characterized by strategic rigidity and tactical flexibility and their inventions into politics are of an inconstant manner, mainly in the form of punctual eruptions and lobbying. This political behavior allows the ulama, despite their total disagreement with the regime’s ideological choices, to adapt to an authoritarian environment as their political demands are primarily limited to negotiate the preservation and/or enlargement of those spaces to carry out their vocation. This sectoral logic of political action has facilitated in sum the ulama’s rapprochement to the regime in its post-Ba’thist stage…..

“Bashar: Decentralization should be implemented after Assad toppling…”in Al-Hayat, United Kingdom (translated thanks to Mideastwire.com)

On May 21, the Saudi-owned London-based Al-Hayat daily carried in its paper edition the following interview with President of the Syrian Kurdish National Council Abdul Hakim Bashar:

“… Q: “Is decentralization a major condition put forward by the Kurdish parties before joining the Syrian National Council?

A: “… Many Alawis, Druze and Kurds have abstained so far from taking part in the Syrian revolution because they are concerned about the future. This is why I believe that it is essential to give all these minorities some guarantees. The Syrian Kurdish National Council wants the opposition parties to adopt a clear declaration reassuring the Druze, the Alawis and the other minorities. We will defend the principle of decentralization until the end because we believe that it gives these necessary assurances….

Q: “Borhan Ghalioun said that he supported decentralization but you rejected his position and said that you wanted him to pledge to implement it in the future. Why is that?

A: “Borhan Ghalioun has supported the principle of administrative decentralization but there is a huge difference between this kind of decentralization and the political decentralization we have been advocating…

“Ghalyun responds to his critics: I am ready to quit…” Asharq al-Awsat – (translated thanks to Mideastwire.com)

On May 18, the Saudi owned Asharq al-Awsat reported: “Burhan Ghalyun, head of the opposition Syrian National Council yesterday responded to the criticism that followed his election for a new three-month term by announcing “his withdrawal from the Council as soon as a new candidate is chosen through accord or through new elections.” He explained that he accepted the latest nomination “out of his eagerness to maintain accord,” stressing that “I will not accept in any way to be the candidate of division, and I am not sticking to any position.” Ghalyun, whose chairmanship of the SNC for the third time since its establishment last October, said in a statement yesterday: “I will continue to serve the revolution from my position as a Council member along with the young fighters -the youths of the revolution of dignity and freedom until victory is achieved,” and called on the opposition “and all its groups to meet as soon as possible to reach an understanding on the unity of the national work and get rid of the circle of conflict and division.”

“A lot of criticism has followed Ghalyun’s election as head of the National Council that reached the point of suspending the membership or resignation to protest the failure to translate the principle of “the rotation of power” in the SNC’s chairmanship, and the refusal by the representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood to give the chance to Ghalyun’s rival, Syrian opposition figure George Sabra. The local coordination committees, which constitute a main faction in the Syrian opposition and which are active in the field and in documenting the diary of the revolution, yesterday joined the list of those who oppose the results of the elections, which took place in Rome three days ago, and threatened to withdraw from the SNC in protest of “monopolizing the decisions by some influential persons in the Executive Bureau and the General Secretariat, the latest of which is the decision to extend for Ghalyun for a third term in spite of the terrible failure on the political and organizat ional levels.” Rima Fulayhan, spokesperson for the coordination committees, strongly rapped “the weak performance of the National Council throughout the past seven months.” She told Asharq al-Awsat that the Council “has not been up to the Syrian people’s aspirations and has not served the revolution due to the flabbiness of the work mechanisms and the weakness of the Council’s head,” and said that the Council “is still stalemated and we have not felt any progress on the ground.”

“Fulayhan pointed out that “the traditional opposition in general has not served the popular Syrian revolution, but it has aggravated the crisis,” stressing the “need for institutionalizing the SNC work in the next stage and electing a leadership that represents the people’s aspirations.” She explained that “we want a leadership that has a vision and a plan and to be the one that launches the initiatives, not to wait for initiatives from inside and outside and be satisfied with just making reactions.” Commenting on Ghalyun’s recent stand, Fulayhan said that “he should not have nominated himself for a third term in light of the general feeling of the SNC’s failure to make any achievement, and he should have given the chance for others,” and asked: “How can we speak about democracy and the rotation of power in the upcoming Syrian state if we are unable to renovate the SNC chairmanship?” she stressed that “the political leaders of the Syrian opposition today are at stake, and we are going to overtake them if they are not up to the level of the revolution in the street,” stressing the rejection of “using the pretext of preserving the unity of the opposition to justify acceptance of the fait accompli and not making the aspired change, particularly since we have become in a stage on which the whole fate of Syria is hinged, and this necessitates that we bring ourselves to account for every mistake.”

“SNC membe r Adib al-Shishakli, who announced the suspension of his membership after Ghalyun’s election, told Al-Sharq al-Awsat that Ghalyun’s stand “is a courageous step in the right direction, so that to show that the one who makes a mistake can retract it, and this is the example that we want to see in the new Syria.” He said that this situation “stands as a lesson for the Syrian opposition and revolution and it is a big test for the National Council.” He also said that “what is required today is the restructuring of the National Council and the mechanisms of its work, particularly the mechanisms of elections before electing a new head,” stressing the importance of “rotating power and that all those who are qualified can nominate themselves for the SNC chairmanship so that the nomination does remain restricted to the members of the Executive Bureau.” Al-Shishakli said that “the Syrian opposition has not practiced any democratic experiment in the past, and it is normal to m ake mistakes, but what is important is that what happened should become a lesson in the next stage,” stressing that “he is not planning to go ahead in his resignation and that he is not protesting against Ghalyun in person, but he is protesting the elections mechanisms emanating from the fact that the SNC’s experiment should be an example to be followed in its capacity as the sole legitimate representative e of the Syrian people.”

“Samir Nashar, member of the Executive Bureau of the National Council, yesterday stressed that “the nomination of George Sabra to head the SNC has been made in consolidation of the principle of the rotation of power and in light of Sabra’s stands and the facts surrounding him, which make him qualified more than others in the SNC. Furthermore, he is a struggler from inside Syria, and he has organizational and leadership experience and belongs to the Christian sect, and this sends a reassurance message that the head of the SNC and the future president of Syria can be from any sect in Syria, and this dispels fears within this minority that the next regime after the collapse of President Bashar al-Asad would be an Islamic one, but it will be a national and civilian one, and will be rotational by all components of the Syrian people.” He explained that “Sabra’s election would have been an advance step (by the Muslim Brotherhood) in particular that they accept a president who belong s to the Christian sect to lead the Syrian people, but what happened has been the opposite when the Muslim Brotherhood voted against George Sabra, and asked their allies in the Islamic trend to vote against him.”” – Asharq al-Awsat, United Kingdom

Chairman of the National Union of the Forces for Democratic Change comments on the Kurdish question – Kurdwatch

KURDWATCH, May 14, 2012—Hasan ʿAbdulʿazim, chairman of the National Union of the Forces for Democratic Change, commented on the Kurdish question in an interview on May 7, 2012 in the chat room »Resistance from Western Kurdistan«. He explained that while there are Kurds in Syria, there is neither a Syrian-Kurdistan nor a region predominantly settled by Kurds. According to ʿAbdulʿazim, even in al‑Hasakah province, the proportion of Kurds is only between 33 and 35 percent; Arab residents are in the majority. Moreover, he rejected all forms of political decentralization. Instead, the National Union, together with the Democratic Union Party (PYD) and in consultation with ten other Kurdish parties, supports the right to administrative decentralization based on the currently existing model of local administrations. At the same time ʿAbdulʿazim emphasized that he would not stand against more extensive Kurdish demands if the majority of the Syrian people were to accept them in a democratic election. In reaction to ʿAbdulʿazim’s comments, the PYD chairman, Salih Muslim Muhammad, communicated in a press release that his party’s use of the term West Kurdistan is not intended to convey that this region does not or should not belong to Syria.

Al-Qamishli: Demonstrators criticize Islamic slogans – Kurdwatch

KURDWATCH, 16. May 2012—Nationwide protests on 11. May 2012 resulted again in numerous dead and injured. Throughout the country, demonstrators demanded the fall of the regime. Once again protests in the Kurdish regions this week did not take place under a united slogan. Only a few demonstrators joined the all-Syrian slogan »God’s support and a speedy victory«. An activist told KurdWatch, »Our revolution is committed to freedom and dignity. We no longer have sympathy for the fact that so many of the slogans that are designated as the main slogans have an Islamic context«. Most of the demonstrators chose their own slogan; for example, supporters of the Democratic Union Party took to the streets under the slogan »Support for the Kurds in Aleppo«…. Overall the number of demonstrators in the Kurdish regions is currently in decline.

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Juergen said:

“Before I visited Syria in 2003 and 2004, I expected it to look like North Korea with souks.”

Love this sentence from the NYT article. There are news of an new explosion in Damascus, can someone varify it yet?

May 23rd, 2012, 1:40 am

Jad said:

Alsayed Hasan Nasurallah speaking on the incident of kidnapping the Lebanese pilgrims by the armed militias:
مداخلة السيد حسن نصر الله على قناة المنار 22-5-2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4s1Z0fiqT8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The wives of the kidnapped Lebanese men are telling their story:
نساء لبنانيات يروين كيفية اختطاف ازواجهن 22 5 2012

May 23rd, 2012, 2:08 am

Jad said:

Sources: Most Wanted Terrorist Sent by Qatar to Syria through Northern Lebanon
TEHRAN (FNA)- Qatar funded an infamous al-Qaeda-affiliated terrorist and sent him to Syria at the head of a team to stir unrests in the country before his reported death, informed sources revealed on Tuesday.

Informed sources said that the Qatari team of terrorists had entered Syria form the country’s Northern borders with Lebanon, adding that the terrorists were led by Abdel-Ghani Jawhar, an al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist, who was contracted by Qatar to lead the team for a $4 million payment.

Abdel-Ghani Jawhar, Lebanon’s most wanted militant terrorist, was active in Syria, the sources said, adding that he was organizing suicide attacks and assisting rebel groups in the Arab country before his alleged death.

The Examiner quoted a Telegraph report on April 25, alleging that Abdel-Ghani Jawhar was killed while planting bombs for the rebel movement in Syria in his attempts to kill people.

The report raised renewed concerns about the deadly influence of Sunni radicals in the armed rebel groups being funded by the United States to overthrow President Assad of Syria.

According to the Telegraph, the terrorist was killed in Qusayr, near the city of Homs, which is literally crawling with extremist and terrorist agents hired and contracted by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Jawhar was the head of Fatah-al-Islam, a militant group that had fought the official Lebanese army and other militias. The group has ties with al-Qaeda, and is certainly part of a wider network of militant Sunni groups involved in the Syrian opposition

Fatah-al-Islam, fights under the black flag of al-Qaeda.
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http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9102113019

May 23rd, 2012, 2:26 am

Jad said:

As usual of the American administration, spreading Chaos, Death and Misery wherever they go:

Debka: Obama secretly approved shipment of anti-tank arms to Syria

This week’s NATO and G-8 Summits came and went without participating nations agreeing on a way to handle the uprising in Syria, but it is now being reported that the US may already be taking the matter into their own hands.
Military sources speaking with Israel’s Debka news agency report that the administration of US President Barack Obama has cut a deal with foreign intelligence that involves equipping Syrian rebels with modern anti-tank missiles. After 14 months of ongoing battles between the country’s leader, Bashar al-Assad, and opposition to his regime, suddenly the rebel forces are responding with weaponry reportedly sent with the blessing of President Obama.
Sources close to the matter speaking on condition of anonymity tell Debka that a recent rash of explosions decimating Assad’s fleet of heavy T-72 tanks can be credited to “third generation” anti-tank weapons, specifically 9K115-2 Metis-M and Kornet E, supplied by US forces. According to the source, the firepower is being extended by way of Saudi and Qatari intelligence agencies under the urging of America’s commander-in-chief sent through a secret message.
Rumors of weaponry being supplied by America’s allies comes only days after President Obama told a members at this weekend’s G-8 Summit at Camp David, Maryland that “Bashar al-Assad must leave power.” Days later at Chicago, Illinois’ NATO meeting, however, those member nations did not formally agree to a plan to oust the leader.
Speaking from the Windy City this weekend, NATO Secretary Anders Fogh Rasmussen said that the organization had “no intention” of using military strikes to oust Assad.

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http://rt.com/usa/news/debka-obama-anti-tank-syria-914/

May 23rd, 2012, 2:31 am

omen said:

He mentioned Pakistan as an example where regime-change is no longer possible because of its nuclear capabilities.

this isn’t true. the protests started by the lawyers’ movement eventually led to the ouster of dictator pervez musharraf.

uh, why does the u.s. want regime change in pakistan?

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jad – if the regime wasn’t using tanks to murder the masses, the rebels wouldn’t need anti tank weaponry.

May 23rd, 2012, 2:37 am

Antoine said:

Joshua Landis : “Since the story of the Syrian and Iranian opposition is similar in many ways ”

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Nothing can be more insulting to the “real” Syrian opposition, Dr. Landis.

The Syrian opposition, unlike the oppositions of someother authoritarian regimes, is almost totally locally based, with a very, very strong grassroots presence.

The Syrian opposition is NOT the SNC, the Syrian opposition is certainly not the NCB, the Syrian opposition is not some Ahmad Chalabi-like scam artists, the Syrian opposition is not a Masoud Rajavi’s MKO or PLO / PFLP -like external terrorist group.

The Syrian opposition is Abdel Razzaq Tlass, it is Khaled Abu Salah, it is Abdel baset Sarout, Captain Qais Qataaneh, and Lieutenant Khabir. It is the people who bring out every week’s edition of Oxygen (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/22/syria-local-newspapers-revolution) in Zabadani. It is the thousands of young men and women who chant in Aleppo University, and the millions of faceless individuals who bare their chests to bullets every day. It is the people Martin Chulov writes about in Guardian.

The Syrian Revolution is NOT SNC. Let me say this on record, and this the view of 90 % of the people in FSA and the LCCs. The Syrian Revolution is not even Riad al Asaad and other officers cooling their heels in Turkey.

Dr. Landis pretends as if the LCCs don’t even exist. He only sees suited individuals like Ghalioun and Kodmani and Manaa and Abdulhamid and some other names as “the Opposition.” and most of his posts on SC have a strong bias in showing these individuals as “Opposition” and ignoring to a very large extent the Local Coordination Comittee activists and the FSA foot-soldiers.

Fortunately, the Western media has focused on the grassroots local opposition and not these external non-oppositions.

And btw Dr. Landis, you are wrong on another count. The Iranian opposition did not face bullets, T-72 Tank shells, 125 mm Grad rockets, shelling of whole cities, mass graves, etc.

I hope you do understand that the “nature” of the Syrian opposition is very different. Perhaps a comparison can be made with the local Shia and Kurdish opposition to saddam hussein, they too were similarly grassroots based and faced a similar level of violence.

I do not think, Dr. Landis, that you would consider the Iraqi National Congress or even the Badr Organization of Iraq as a really representative cross-section of the Iraqi opposition to the Baathist regime. The real opposition was always Muqtada al sadr’s movement and Massoud Barzani’s armed Kurdish opposition.

Similarly, the real Syrian opposition is the armed elements within the country as well as the civilan elements of the LCCs ( and there is very fruitful coordination between the two0.

I hope I have made my point amply clear.

SC Moderator : I would like you to bring my post to Dr. Landis’ attention as it is addressed to him.

And I do hope constructive criticism of the views and posts of this Blog’s owner(s) do not contravene the blog rules.

May 23rd, 2012, 3:53 am

Amir in Tel Aviv said:

The warmest congratulations to Egypt over it’s first democratic elections in her ancient history. Soon in Syria Insha’alla.
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May 23rd, 2012, 3:54 am

annie said:

This text comes from here : http://haytham-khoury2.blogspot.com/2012/05/to-joshua-landis.html

Since Antoine defined above the Syrian opposition here is the input from Dr Khoury

Toward Real Democracy in Syria

Tuesday, May 22, 2012
To Joshua Landis
Dear Joshua:

I am writing to express my unhappiness with Syria Comment. Since we established our group the Syrian Democratic Forum/Platform last February, the only news that was published on SC regarding our group was under the title “Two different Syrian Opposition organizations expressed their own formulations of the Kurdish question in Syria”. Although our vision of Syria as a multi-national state, from which our group’s view for the question Kurd arises, is an original one, I believe this is not the most significant contribution of our group to the political and civil life in Syria.

First, the idea of our group is a creative one. Indeed, our group is not a political organization per se. It is “a political, civil and democratic forum. It is a platform for critical appraisal, knowledge exchange and field activities”, as it has been defined in its identity statement released on Feb 18, 2012. Our group’s mission is the advancement of the Syrian society and public life at all levels, including political, intellectual and social.
Second, the plan of actions that we have set for our group is an audacious one. One of the major goals that we have set for our group is to unify the infamously fragmented Syrian opposition, as it has been stated in The Declaration of the Proceedings of the General Assembly of the Syrian Democratic Forum, released on April 17th, 2012. In this declaration, our goal to unify the opposition has been expressed as follows: “Indeed, the SDF perceives that one of its tasks is to launch a plan to unite the Syrian opposition of all spectra, accompanied by mechanisms and timetable for its implementation, through the formation of internal and external committees for cooperation and consultation. These plan and mechanisms are to be put into effect as soon as possible; with the reaffirmation that what is meant by unity of the opposition is to have a common vision, program, and political will; and taking into account that the basis for the indispensable unity of the opposition is the unity of purpose. By this purpose, we mean bringing the regime down; building a democratic civil state based on equal citizenship; clearly specifying the path leading to the future of Syria after the fall of the regime; and providing a clear vision for the new Syria. In this regard, it is the responsibility of the committee elected by the General Assembly to put this into practice.”

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May 23rd, 2012, 5:47 am

Osama said:

Many will have noticed that Lebanon is under threat of becoming part of the strife in Syria.

Some will say that the Syrians (government) have a hand in it, but it seems far-fetched. I think we can safely assume that they are pre-occupied with other more pressing matters and it is more likely that this is an own-goal by Hariri Inc. i.e. ignoring the Salafis because of the GCC wing nuts money they attract.

It is clearly time that Hariri stops playing with fire and shows some leadership from the front – not his usual of leading from the rear.

And if he does have the stones for it, the Lebanese army needs to grow a pair and make it clear that anyone firing weapons in the street at his neighbors needs to be arrested. Anyone threatening the stability of the Lebanese state needs to be stopped. Serving tea is not an option…

The crazy beardies in the north need to realize that no-one is afraid of them, everybody is just afraid someone will do something stupid and it then snowballs into something much worse. All are hoping that the release of Mowlawi and the investigations into the checkpoint incident will be the end of it – but it could just as easily encourage some to press for other things (note that there will probably be no investigation into the 2 Beirut deaths).

This will not go away on its own, Lebanon is not able to be the gateway for the Syrian opposition, no matter how much sympathy exists for the Syrian opposition. Lebanon, must have the same attitude as all of Syria’s other neigbors (even Turkey is providing support with strict restrictions, its not a free for all – and no crazy beardies allowed).

Any way you cut it, Lebanon will not go unscathed if it deepens its involvement with an internal Syrian conflict.

May 23rd, 2012, 6:52 am

Alan said:

لافروف يحذر من انتقال الأزمة السورية إلى لبنان ويتهم المعارضة بمحاولة نسف خطة عنان
http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/news/585866/

“الجيش السوري الحر” يختطف 12 لبنانيا في حلب.. ونصر الله يدعو اقرباءهم الى عدم الثأر
http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/news/585830/

روسيا تنجح باطلاق صاروخ عابر للقارات قادر على اختراق الدرع الصاروخية
http://arabic.rt.com/news_all_news/news/585855/

May 23rd, 2012, 7:01 am

GK said:

Anyone can shed some light on the “assassination of Asef Shouket” story? Is it true or just a rumor?

May 23rd, 2012, 7:36 am

Uzair8 said:

Nice little image:

http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/272/114/original.jpg

May 23rd, 2012, 8:08 am

Observer said:

I am disappointed that the Egyptian elections are not part of today’s posting for this is another occasion to show that the old ways of doing business are gone for good.

What about the new parliament supposed to meet today at the orders of Fredo?

What do we expect from this new rubber stamp body?

Not even Russia today in Arabic is talking about Syria any longer.

Beating a dead horse will not make it come back to life. This regime is not willing to give 1% of its exclusive dictatorial privileges and even Dr. Landis cannot find enough information to show any progress just a spiraling down the drain.

May 23rd, 2012, 8:10 am

VOLK said:

Syrian opposition flagrantly violates UNSC decisions – Lavrov

The Syrian opposition should observe the cease-fire agreement and implement the Kofi Annan settlement plan, but is flagrantly violating the UN Security Council decisions to that end instead, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said.

He feels that the opposition obviously seeks to torpedo the peace plan.

The UN resolution has approved the plan utterly and completely, a plan that urges both the Syrian government and the opposition to end the violence, Lavrov told the news conference that he was holding jointly with his Sri-Lankan counterpart in Moscow earlier today.

The Russian Foreign Minister added that attempts to encourage the continuation of the armed conflict are also in breach of the UN Security Council resolution.
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_05_23/75685576/

May 23rd, 2012, 8:16 am

Dawoud said:

Altough I agree that Western sanctions also want to subject Arabs to Western-Israeli dictates, the Syrian Revolt MUST succed because it is legitimate and just.

May 23rd, 2012, 8:20 am

Uzair8 said:

Their names are known. They won’t escape justice.

Syria and Lebanon stare into the abyss

By Victor Kotsev
May 24, 2012

[Selected quote]

Aziz, a chain-smoking cynic who, despite having been arrested twice, managed to escape and return to his village because many of the sons and daughters of the intelligence officers were his students, has collected the villagers’ accounts of the day of the attack. “The soldiers were supposed to set an example. One group slit a man’s throat, and then they tied another man to a car, then they burned down everything they couldn’t loot,” he says.

“But then others came to the houses, apologized and acted as if they didn’t see the Kalashnikovs hidden behind cushions. And two of them left this behind,” he says, unfolding a page torn out of a notebook on which all the names and ranks of the officers in the Brigade of Death are carefully noted. “Assad’s army is like an iceberg that is slowly melting,” says Adjini.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NE24Ak02.html

May 23rd, 2012, 9:02 am

Son of Damascus said:

Al Madiq Citadel was targeted and burned.

Now lets guess who was guilty of that, was it the rebels that never swore to burn down the country or was it the SF the CONTINUE to swear they WILL burn down the country. Hmmmmmm maybe this video will help to shed light on the noble cause of Burning down the country all for Bashar…

May 23rd, 2012, 10:23 am

Son of Damascus said:

First hand account of what happened there:

Only in Syria: Even an Ancient Citadel is not Immune to Destruction

by Mousab Alhamadee

“I don’t know what to do now! I feel the whole world is a cup of tea.”

These are the words Trad utters after the Syrian army forced him to leave his home in Al-Madiq Citadel in Hama, Syria. Trad’s fate was the fate of over two thousand people who lived in the historic citadel before the army seized control of it in March 2012.

Al-Madiq Citadel in the province of Hama, was one of the first cities in Syria to rebel against the rule of Bashar Assad’s regime on March 28, 2011. The regime’s attempts to break the resilience of the city and its people had failed for one year. Because of this resistance, the city had to pay a very high price at the end.

The Syrian regime brought modern tanks and heavy artillery to the city of the ancient ruins of Apamia. The city used to be a popular touristic attraction, but now it was the site of violence and destruction. The shelling began in mid March. The targets included the modern city, the old city with the Islamic Citadel and even the Roman columns of Apamia — beloved by tourists who flocked to see them from around the world. Apamia is an ancient site that dates back to 301 B.C. This archeological treasure was once famous for its deep roots in philosophy and education. It was a center of trade during the Roman Empire and later became the Byzantine capital of the second province of Syria. Despite this rich history and the area’s immense cultural importance to Syria, it was not protected from the crimes of the Syrian regime which showed no mercy as shells and rockets destroyed the columns of Apamia, and the towers and vaults of the ancient citadel.

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http://www.ayyam.org/english/?p=456

May 23rd, 2012, 10:25 am

Son of Damascus said:

MSNBC inside Homs (3 videos and a photo series)

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/23/11814497-inside-syria-war-torn-city-of-homs-scarred-by-violence-riddled-with-fear?chromedomain=photoblog&lite

May 23rd, 2012, 10:41 am

Son of Damascus said:

Lawyers in Aleppo make their voices heard in the Justice Palace (courthouse).

May 23rd, 2012, 10:45 am

DAWOUD said:

We know that the courageous Syrian “citizen journalists,” who have been utilizing the Internet and new technology, have been able to bypass Bashar’s dictatorial censorship and spread the truth. Similarly, in occupied Palestine, “citizen journalists” are increasingly learning from their Syrian brothers/sisters and spreading the truth about Israel’s murderous and brutal occupation. Please see this story:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/23/palestinians-israel-videos-idUSL5E8GMEQO20120523

“Citizen journalism” focuses on Israeli occupation
Wed May 23, 2012 4:52am EDT
* Armed with camcorders, Palestinians challenge troops
* Footage key to accounts of West Bank confrontations

By Noah Browning

ASEERA AL-QIBLIYA, West Bank, May 23 (Reuters) – Amateur video of Israeli soldiers appearing to watch idly as settlers opened fire on Palestinians throwing stones has emphasised the growing power of “citizen journalism” in the occupied West Bank.
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May 23rd, 2012, 10:54 am

Aldendeshe said:

“They look out at the countryside and think: What if these people win? Are they going to respect capitalism? Are they going to preserve our wealth? Or are they going to come by and say, ‘Oh, you’ve been a collaborator for 40 years, and we’re going to take everything you own’? They don’t know.” …
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Will take everything back from them, even forks and shoes and ~~sends them back to the farms, which then they will not own.~~
Later, will run back with all the stolen wealth to March 7, 1963 and launch the world’s fastest growing capitalist nation, ~~supported by Alawites and Baathist Socialist / Communist farmers working the State owned commune~~
. What they dreamt off for 50 years and never accomplished will finally come true.

May 23rd, 2012, 10:55 am

Son of Damascus said:

A good piece by James Miller from EAWorldView

Empty Talk — The US and its Allies have no Strategy to end this crises

CNN knows it. The Washington Post is mystified by it. It’s a safe bet that Bashar al Assad is fully aware of it as well.

There is no will for the West to intervene in Syria any time soon. Despite all the reasons to intervene in Syria, neither the United Nations nor NATO nor the US have shown no interest in getting involved.

To many, this news will be greeted with a sigh of relief. To others, this will be a disappointment and even a cause for anger.

But beyond this immediate revelation, there is a wider significance: the UN, NATO, and the Obama Administration are not just signalling that they are hesitant to intervene. They are also sending a crystal-clear message to the Assad regime that it is not at risk for a Libya-style takedown any time soon. Bashar, you are safe.

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There has been no build-up, there has been no sabre-rattling. The US and its allies are effectively telling Assad that not only is intervention far from a favoured option, but that there are no preparations even to respond to the crisis in short order — and there will not be any time soon. If you’re a Somalian pirate, you have received more attention from the Pentagon than the Assad regime — at least as far as the public face of the West’s military might is concerned.

What is left as a strategy? Hope. The EU hopes that sanctions will topple the regime. Kofi Annan hopes the observers will end the violence. Obama hopes that Kofi Annan is right. NATO hopes that if then does not work, then Obama will do all the work himself. Saudi Arabia hopes that getting the Syrian insurgents some AK-47s or high-powered sniper rifles will topple the regime. Turkey hopes that refugees will stop flocking across its borders. The whole world hopes that, as the crisis draws on, jihadis, who are loving every minute of this, will not get involved.

The problem? There is absolutely no evidence that any of those hopes will succeed. There is no strategy for removing the Assad regime, nor ending the crisis, nor even limiting the amount of violence until the opposition just goes home (which is not going to happen). This is a growing threat that could destabilise the region, right in the center of the Middle East, and there is absolutely no thought as to how to limit or contain that threat, forget about eliminating the problem all together.

Nothing has been done to end the crisis. In fact, the efforts of the US and Europe have likely only made it worse. The only thing that has been done (maybe) is arming the opposition. If arming the opposition was part of a wider strategy to end the crisi, then it could be defended. However, all it seems to have accomplished is to make the pot simmer, only giving Assad more excuses to use his weapons to try to end the opposition to his rule.

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http://www.enduringamerica.com/home/2012/5/23/syria-opinion-empty-talk-the-us-and-its-allies-have-no-strat.html

May 23rd, 2012, 10:56 am

Jad said:

Russia: Syrian opposition groups are violating UN peace plan
BY VIKTOR REZNOV
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said today that the Syrian Opposition must adhere to six-point plan by Kofi Annan.

Today, the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has again urged the several groups of the so-called Syrian opposition to stick to the ceasefire in Syria and to stop all violence and attacks. The Foreign Minister of Russia also said that the Syrian opposition had the aim to “sabotage” the six-point plan of the UN/Arab League envoy Kofi Annan.

Sergei Lavrov stated that Moscow sees a serious violation of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) Resolution and that this Resolution and six-point plan includes demands both for the Syrian government and Syria`s opposition groups to stop the violence and to implement the ceasefire.

During his talks with the Sri Lankan counterpart Gamini Lakshman Peiris in the Russian capital Moscow, the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has also said that “those who incite further violence… …should honestly say what they want.”

As the most know, Russia has two times vetoed the UN Resolutions against Syria at the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) because Moscow called the first drafts a “pro-rebel” resolution, which is one-sided and misses demands on the rebel`s side. Russia is fully supporting the six-point peace plan, which has been proposed by the UN envoy Kofi Annan.

Already last month, the United Nations (UN) has approved the deployment of about 300 so-called Observers to Syria to monitor the implementation of the ceasefire. The truce in Syria was often violated since then. As often stated, the violations of the ceasefire are in general advantages for the armed opposition-forces in Syria.

A real truce in Syria would not help this armed face of the Syrian (external) opposition to really achieve their (one and only?) aim, the overthrow of the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the Syrian government in the capital Damascus. Thus, a ceasefire, followed by real diplomatic talks between all sides is sure not the best solution for the armed gangs in Syria.

Not to mention that this also doesn`t sound like a good path for the goals of the so-called “Syrian National Council” (SNC), based in Istanbul, Turkey. This mainly Islamist council still favors the solution with the overthrow of the Syrian government and its president. One can easily call the “Syrian National Council” (SNC) a Islamists council because the majority of the members are Islamists, as it was already confirmed by opposition members and e.g. Reuters.
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http://www.syrianews.cc/russia-syria-opposition-violating-peace-plan-668.html

May 23rd, 2012, 11:03 am

Jad said:

It seems that there were other voices in the justice Palace in Aleppo too:

سوريا حلب مظاهرة اسود المحامين ومهاجمة العراعير لها ج2
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dfx18ISIchXw%26feature%3Dyoutu.be&feature=youtu.be&v=fx18ISIchXw&gl=CA

May 23rd, 2012, 11:21 am

irritated said:

#6 Antoine

“Nothing can be more insulting to the “real” Syrian opposition, Dr. Landis. ”

Your post is an insult to the iranian opposition that at least has stayed independent and peaceful and not brought the country in the chaos like the supposed ‘grassroot’ syrian opposition manipulated by foreign powers did

May 23rd, 2012, 11:43 am

irritated said:

#7 A IN TV

“Soon in Syria Insha’alla.”

and soon in unified Palestine

May 23rd, 2012, 11:51 am

zoo said:

UN Observers becoming more involved…?

UNSMIS swap between Syrian Regime, Rebels
(Dp-news)
http://www.dp-news.com/en/detail.aspx?articleid=121303

SYRIA- A United Nations team in Syria says it has brokered an exchange between President Bashar al-Assad`s regime forces and opposition fighters seeking to topple his regime, The Associated Press (AP) reported on Tuesday afternoon.

The U.N. said in a statement Tuesday that government forces released two detainees from the town of Khan Sheikhoun in northwest Syria in exchange for permission to retrieve a destroyed tank.

Syria state-run news agency SANA said on Tuesday that UN Supervision Mission in Syria (UNSMIS) delegation visited al-Keswah area in Damascus Countryside while another delegation inspected the site of the booby-trapped car which the authorities seized in al-Mleiha region on Friday.

May 23rd, 2012, 11:56 am

zoo said:

Is the UN implicitly condoning the shelling of Rastan, the last(?) stronghold of the armed rebels where despite the alleged “heavy shelling”, there was no reported of casualties?

Syria assails rebel town, admits sanctions hurting
AFP – 49 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/syrias-rastan-pounded-rebels-deny-pilgrims-kidnap-090106442.html

Syrian forces tried to storm the rebel bastion of Rastan Wednesday under cover of heavy gunfire, shelling and rocket bombardment, reports said, as Damascus admitted sanctions were biting hard.

The rebel Free Syrian Army, meanwhile, denied it was behind the kidnapping of Lebanese Shiite pilgrims in the north, an incident adding to tensions in neighbouring Lebanon which is already divided between pro- and anti-Damascus camps.

There was no word on any Rastan casualties, but the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said 12 people were killed nationwide, including seven troops shot dead at Qalamun in Damascus province as they tried to defect to the rebellion.

Soldiers were trying to overrun Rastan for the second time in 10 days, with shells crashing into the town at the rate of “one a minute” at one stage, according to the Britain-based watchdog.

An activist told AFP that Free Syrian Army fighters were defending Rastan’s entrances but that “regime forces are being strengthened with new deployments,” including from the elite Republican Guard.

“Electricity has been cut off in Rastan, and water tanks have been shelled,” said activist Abu Rawan. “There is also a severe lack of food because the market is closed and we can’t bring food in from nearby villages.”

Hours later, the activist said the army assault eased when a team of UN observers entered Rastan.

“The situation is calm now because the UN monitors have arrived” having heard the shelling, Abu Rawan told AFP, adding, however, “God protect us when they leave.”
more…

May 23rd, 2012, 12:00 pm

zoo said:

As Turkey is involved in the release, it is no secret who had kidnapped the Shia Lebanese. Another blow to the opposition, who obviously has no control on its anarchic troops and constantly needs big brother Turkey’s intervention.

Lebanese FM: Captives in Syria have been found
Associated Press – 5 hrs ago
http://news.yahoo.com/lebanese-fm-captives-syria-found-100354925.html

BEIRUT (AP) — Lebanon’s foreign minister said Wednesday that authorities have located 11 Lebanese Shiites kidnapped the previous day in Syria and that he expects they will be released soon.

Adnan Mansour said he had been in touch with a number of Arab officials and his Turkish counterpart to try to secure the captives’ return to Lebanon.

“They will be released in the coming hours,” Mansour said, according to Lebanon’s state news agency. The report gave no further information on the captives’ location or on who is holding them.

May 23rd, 2012, 12:11 pm

zoo said:

WILL EGYPT’S ATTITUDE TO U.S. AND ISRAEL CHANGE?

Many of the candidates in the race have called for amendments in Egypt’s 1979 peace treaty with Israel, which remains deeply unpopular. None is likely to dump it, but a victory by any of the Islamist or leftist candidates in the race could mean strained ties with Israel and a stronger stance in support of the Palestinians in the peace process. Shafiq and Moussa, and ironically the Brotherhood, are most likely to maintain the alliance with Washington.

http://news.yahoo.com/why-egypts-presidential-election-matters-063923299.html

May 23rd, 2012, 12:14 pm

zoo said:

Tit For Tat: FSA vs PKK

Turkey accuses Damascus of allowing Kurdish rebels to operate in Syria
http://www.rt.com/news/line/2012-05-23/#id31427

The Turkish interior minister has said Damascus is allowing Kurdish rebels to set up positions in Syria. Idris Naim Sahin said intelligence reports indicate that Syria “is turning a blind eye” to rebels in areas close to the Turkish border, AP reports. Rebels belonging to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party have taken control of the running of some towns, the minister said. Damascus was cooperating with Turkey in its fight against the rebels until ties soured recently.

May 23rd, 2012, 12:15 pm

zoo said:

An exercise in evaluating crowd size by photos

Compare to the “massive” demonstrations in Syria over the year.
Hundred of thousands? No, the news say ‘tens of thousands’

http://worldinstruggle.blogspot.ca/2012/05/quebec-massive-collective-disobedience.html

http://media.mmgdailies.topscms.com/images/80/82/907fc97849ba9d7ae003db25de02.jpg

http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20120522/600_protest_120522_430241.jpg?2

http://wp.climatereality.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/82452.jpeg

May 23rd, 2012, 12:29 pm

jad said:

Zoo,
To me it seems that the Ottomans are using their absolutely last card, the PKK and the mantra that ‘Syrian Government is supporting it.
They used the Humanitarian cards, the SNC until last month, the FSA, the terrorists, the NATO, almost all kind of cards in shouting and yelling nonstop for 15 months now, for them to use the PKK card today means that they are out of any other choices but keep lying.
What do you think?

May 23rd, 2012, 12:32 pm

zoo said:

Russian FM accuses Syrian opposition of undermining peace plan
English.news.cn 2012-05-23 21:31:07
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-05/23/c_131606954.htm

MOSCOW, May 23 (Xinhua) — The aim of the Syrian armed opposition is to undermine the peace plan implemented by the U.N. and Arab League envoy Kofi Annan, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday.

“The aim is obvious — to disrupt the peace plan of Kofi Annan,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters.

Lavrov said that the Syrian opposition and their supporting countries have violated the UN resolutions.

“All this is happening with the gross violation of the U.N. Security Council’s resolutions which entirely approved that plan and which demands not only the government but all opposition groups too, including armed ones, to stop violence immediately,” Lavrov said.

Moscow had repeatedly called on officials in Damascus to follow Annan’s plan, Lavrov said, adding that the current situation is like a “one way game.”

“It is impossible to play one way game, when the government is expected to unconditionally implement the plan and the opposition has not only been restricted but, in effect, is encouraged to continue armed provocations,” Lavrov said.

May 23rd, 2012, 12:40 pm

Alan said:

I think that Syria passes very useful experience. For the country future difficulties grind men! going next fight against John McCain’s, Donald Ramsfild’s activities, and Chicago BaXtor AH1N1 !

May 23rd, 2012, 12:44 pm

jad said:

Now Jordan is added to the other infested hubs of terrorism, with the help of the Americans, they are training terrorists and mercenaries to be sent to kill more Syrians in the name of the ‘Holy War’!
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Amman allows US to train Syrian rebels on Jordanian soil

Jordan has reportedly given the green light to the US to train and prepare members of the terrorist Free Syrian Army on its soil to attack strategic targets inside Syria.

Informed sources say Jordanian ruler King Abdullah II has allowed the US troops to train hundreds of members of the so-called Free Syrian Army along with Jordanian forces in order to prepare them for participation in an international military drill in the country.

According to the sources, the drill, involving 12 countries and led by the US, focuses on instructing terrorist groups fighting against the Syrian government on ways to attack strategic targets in Syria, including the country’s missile arsenal, which is a cause for concern for Israel.

US intelligence sources had earlier said that the Americans are training Jordan’s specials forces for what they describe as ” worst case scenario” in order for them to gain control of Syria’s weapons arsenal.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March 2011 and many people, including hundreds of security forces, have been killed in the unrest.

While the West and the Syrian opposition say the government is responsible for the violence, Damascus blames “outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups” for the unrest and insists that it is being orchestrated from abroad.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/242713.html

May 23rd, 2012, 12:53 pm

Alan said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xI_V5B2_1c
GEORGE W. BUSH INDICTED FOR WAR CRIMES,

May 23rd, 2012, 1:04 pm

Alan said:

Palestinians commemorate Day of catastrophe; Nakba-The Real Deal-05-20-2012

May 23rd, 2012, 1:25 pm

jad said:

Syria, Libya, and NATO: Austrian defense minister tells it like it is
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‘Then about the conflict in Syria and the Western instigated regime change, he said:

“The only question is what will come after Assad. It is now clear that the Arab Spring does not necessarily lead to democratization and stability. In Libya, the militias, which have eliminated Gaddafi, are now fighting against each other.

The Syrian opposition is not really a democratic alternative. Minorities such as Christians would be at highest risk after a fall of (Syrian President) al-Assad. Even now, as I have been told by UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, the terrorist network al-Qaeda has already infiltrated in Syria.””
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The following report from Chicago shows how U.S. veterans, who were deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, speak against NATO, against the occupation and war, and throw their medals in the direction of the meeting area of the war criminals:

No NATO, No War”: U.S. Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan Return War Medals at NATO Summit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ctEQqlf2xw&feature=colike
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http://www.syrianews.cc/syria-libya-and-nato-austrian-defense-minister-tells-it-like-it-is-663.html

May 23rd, 2012, 1:25 pm

jad said:

Better than getting it from KSA and Qatar!

Wahhabism and Music : A Tale of Love
http://youtu.be/mkETJsLQWf8

“In mathematics there are sometimes different methods to solve a problem. Look at the Music as a mathematical problem. Don’t ever bind yourself by a specific method to play the musical instruments. Be creative as “Abo Ghazi” in this video…

His name is “Abo Ghazi Al-Shummary”, a Saudi preacher. In this video he destroys the musical instruments, because they are tools of the “Devil”!! Look at his face, he is namely the devil.

In the past, such madness took place in Saudi Arabia. Today it invaded the Arab world after the so-called “Arab Spring”. The ture culture and heritage are under attack. Ruins were destroyed. Actors and movie directors were tried before the court and jailed. Authors have been put on hit lists.
To support the so-called “Arab Spring” means to support a way of life that can only fit in the middle ages.”

May 23rd, 2012, 2:14 pm

habib said:

22. Aldendeshe

Comments like these are the reason why you will never win.

May 23rd, 2012, 2:17 pm

jad said:

Syria: Time For Assad To Prepare To Attack

Despite the deployment of UN ceasefire monitors in Syria the rebels seem to intensify their fighting by regularly attacking government checkpoints and logistics. Each day they kill some 15 to 20 government security personal and thereby undermine the Annan plan.

It is obviously that the rebels have used the ceasefire to rearm with the quite open help of the U.S, the Gulf countries and Turkey. Of special concern is the visible proliferation of anti-armor weapons. Their main logistic line of communication seems to run through Tripoli, Lebanon. The rather few genuine Syrian rebels also get active help from international AlQaeda like terrorist groups. While this helps the narrative of the Syrian government it makes its physical fight more difficult.

The countries supporting the rebels obviously do not agree with the Annan peace plan and want it to fail. There is little hope in the near term that they will change their policies of regime change and state destruction by proxy force.

Since the introduction of the ceasefire and the UN monitors Syria has held back on offensive military moves. But without such moves the rebel problem will fester and they will continuously become better armed, trained and effective. As they and their backers are not sticking to the Annan plan and attack Syria should feel free to respond in kind.

As I had earlier suggested Syria seems to have given a more free reign to Kurdish rebels who dislike the Turkish government policies towards the Kurds. Turkey protesting about that is quite hypocritical as it houses the command of the Free Syrian Army and the now mostly defunct political arm of the rebels in the form of the Syrian National Council. There are also activities by forces friendly to the Syrian government to interrupt the rebels weapons pipeline from Lebanon.
{…}
Currently the Syrian government is fighting only in the defensive with both hands tight behind its back. It could go on the offense but then would still have to take care of not hurting the civilians the rebels are using for cover. That would be fighting with one hand tied behind its back.

To untie that second hand the Syrian government could ask the civilians from the rebel infested areas, mostly along rural parts of the Lebanese and Turkish borders, to evacuate and offer them shelter in safe and controlled areas. It could then use its full military might to attack and defeat the rebels in their current operational and retreat areas.

While that would likely still be a messy fight such an all out and carefully planned government offense is likely to shorten the overall conflict. The Syrian government should urgently prepare for it.
{…}
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/05/syria-time-to-prepare-to-attack.html

May 23rd, 2012, 2:18 pm

zoo said:

Comment was flagged as spam mistakenly, I updated the time stamp.

SC Moderator

#34 Jad

Erdogan’s political dealing with the Kurds is failing. Syria is a convenient scapegoat, so he is dumping the PKK issue on Syria. I doubt the Turks buy that.

May 23rd, 2012, 2:19 pm

Tara said:

Saudi women says she is not going to be silenced. How about the Syrian women of the revolution? What happened to Razan Zeitouneh and Suhair Attasi voices? Could the Syrian regime do what KSA couldn’t?
The article says that divorce rate in KSA is 60%. That sounds awfully high. Who is initiating the divorce in KSA? The men or the women?
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Manal al-Sharif: ‘They just messed with the wrong woman’

She is the Saudi woman who became a symbol of female emancipation when she was filmed behind the wheel of a car. In a rare interview, she tells Guy Adams of the persecution she has endured in her fight for equality – and why she will not be silenced
GUY ADAMS WEDNESDAY 23 MAY 2012

More…
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/manal-alsharif-they-just-messed-with-the-wrong-woman-7778800.html

May 23rd, 2012, 2:33 pm

Son of Damascus said:

Earlier I posted a video of Lawyers in the Justice Palace protesting against the regime, in which Jad helpfully posted of another simultaneous pro regime rally that took place there (Thank you jad).

Both videos show clearly the divide Syria is in today and the rhetoric that represents both sides is clearly displayed in not only the chants but also the titles of the videos.

Anti-regime video: Protesters are heard chanting that they will not bow down, not to tanks and not to artillery and end with a Takbeer (Allahu Akbar = God is great). The title of the video is a simple title that states the location and date of the protest (Aleppo, Justice Palace, 23 05 2012).

Pro-regime video: The people rallying are heard chanting Abu Havez (Bashar), Allah Souria Bashar 2u bass (God, Syria, Bashar and nothing else), the people want Bashar Al Assad, Shabee7a lil Abad bas la 3younak ya Assad (Forever your Shabeeha, just for your eyes oh Assad), and of course the usual Bil ro7 bil qalb nafdeek ya Assad (With our souls with our heart we sacrifice ourselves oh Assad). The title of the video is: Syria Aleppo a rally by Assad’s Lawyers in attacking the 3ara3eer.

So one group is defying the regime and proclaiming that nothing will stop them from their liberty essentially, and the other group seems to proclaim that without Assad Syria is doomed and they are more than willing to be shabee7a (and essentially kill anyone that defies the boy king illegitimate claim to his throne) just for Assad and whomever is against Assad is nothing but a 3ar3our Wahabist that needs to be attacked.

May 23rd, 2012, 3:18 pm

Son of Damascus said:

A good rebuttal to As’ad Abu Khalil’s piece about the popularity of the Syrian uprisings or “lack thereof” as Abu Khalil tried to argue.

The Lousy Arab Strikes Again

I’ve written before about Asad Abukhalil’s biased coverage of the Syrian uprising. But Asad (aka the Angry Arab), is not done smearing the Syrian revolution.
A Syrian on twitter commented a couple of days ago that all the counter-revolutionary propaganda on Syria is aimed at proving one thing: that the opposition, the protesters, their armed wing, their politicians, all of them are just as bad as the regime’s.

Which makes sense: Asad Abukhalil can’t just outright come out and defend Bashar Al Assad, can he? so what he does instead is trash the opposition and the protests’ movement and attempt to portray it as sectarian, violent and treasonous (in the sense that it is western and Qatari-backed).

For sure, Syrian people aren’t angels. There are worrying incidents of violence and sectarianism. But the uprising at large has been overwhelmingly peaceful and non-sectarian. What Abukhalil (and his ilk) does is to magnify these incidents and blow them out of proportions: as if they do not occur in Bahrain, as if they’ve not occurred in Egypt or Tunisia.

The latest installment of grouch comes in the form of doubting the popularly of the Syrian uprising. Asad Abukhalil actually goes straight to claiming the Syrian uprising is the least popular in the Arab World. He does not state one single proof for this grandiose claim (and let’s remember that he mocks western reporters for making generalized statements about the Arab World without evidence. Heck, even when a study about domestic violence was presented with statistics, he didn’t believe it and went picking at it just because it didn’t suit his narrative).

[…]

http://nuffsilence.posterous.com/the-lousy-arab-strikes-again#comment

May 23rd, 2012, 3:21 pm

MICHEL said:

~~To hell with~~ Assadists, they are nothing else other than traitors.

May 23rd, 2012, 3:44 pm

Antoine said:

Asaad Abu Khalil is not a Palestinian, no Palestinian can defend the Syrian regime. Huh ??? I always thought he is an Iranian mukhabarati in disguise.

May 23rd, 2012, 3:44 pm

Alan said:

Syria’s New Jihadis
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/05/22/syrias_new_jihadis

May 23rd, 2012, 4:07 pm

Mar said:

I’m not sure if this article on the poisoning has already been posted here:

http://syrie.blog.lemonde.fr/2012/05/23/syrie-la-cellule-centrale-de-gestion-des-crises-decimee-par-un-empoisonnement/

May 23rd, 2012, 4:08 pm

jad said:

UN Observers Concede Presence of Terrorist Groups in Syria

UN peacekeeping observers have acknowledged the presence of terrorist groups in Syria, which are hindering the peace process between the government and the opposition, China’s Xinhua agency has reported, quoting UN peacekeeping head Herve Ladsous.
“We know that there are … a third party (of the conflict), terrorist groups, who are trying to gain advantage for themselves… but we have to see this as an issue within Syria, between the Syrians,” Ladsous said at a news conference held in Damascus.
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has said that foreign fighters, some of them Al-Qaeda members, are fighting in extremist groups operating in Syria.
Ladsous added that 270 observers are working in six cities across Syria. According to him, observers will arrive in four more cities.
More than 9,000 people have been killed in Syria since the outbreak of a popular uprising against President Bashar al-Assad in March 2011, the UN says.
{…}
http://en.ria.ru/world/20120522/173601137.html

May 23rd, 2012, 4:51 pm

irritated said:

#49 Antoine

It’s that same Syrian regime that, for more than 40 years, hosted and always helped the Palestinian resistance that was kicked out of other arab countries as well as hundred thousands palestinian refugees.

If the Palestinians turns against the regime now, which they are not, they know that they’ll loose the most reliable ally they ever had and they will ever have. The proof is that until now Hamas has not officially moved its offices to other Arab countries, with the probable intention of returning once the regime is back in control.
Not a single Palestinian group in Syria has criticized the regime in 15 month of trouble.

All the Palestinian resistance’s allies are supporting the fight of the Syrian government against the US-Israel plan to weaken Syria and all the supporters of the resistance.

May 23rd, 2012, 4:53 pm

irritated said:

#51 Mar

The deadly FSA cook

Most of it is the fruit of a wild imagination.

May 23rd, 2012, 4:56 pm

Antoine said:

IRRITATED,

It is not the Syrian regime but the Syrian people who have hosted all these Palestinian refuges, it was the Syrian people who have them space and allowed them to live like normal citizens,

Btw most of the Palestinian refugees in Syria came to Syria in 1948. This regime wasn’t in control then. Bashar wasn’t even born then, the dog Hafez was still in his nappies.

Btw IRRITATED, you mentioned before that you will change your username to “RELAXED” in April 2012. Today is May 2012. Why hasn’t that happened ?

May 23rd, 2012, 5:20 pm

Antoine said:

Assef Shawkat is dead and he was buried today in Madhale in Tartous.

Even today, the regime has not offically denied or disputed his death. They have denied the deaths of the others, but they are still silent about Assef Shawkat. There is no “sign of life” so to speak.

May 23rd, 2012, 5:24 pm

Mawal95 said:

In the New Scientist article linked to by Joshua, dated 17 May 2012, the author says Syria is not a democracy. That author is a junk scientist. Syria is a full-fledged democracy (with religious and tribal parties banned, the ban supported by the majority).

By the way China is not a democracy, but the age structure of the Chinese people is among the more elderly ones in the world. China’s population growth rate is only 0.47%, ranking 156th out of 195 countries (including principalities) in the world. Quoting UN data a Wikipedia, China’s female fertility rate ranks China 154th, while Syria’s fertility rate ranks Syria at 69th. Thus the reported patterns that demographer Richard Cincotta sees are junk patterns.

I would say the same about the patterns Thomas Peirret thinks he sees in Syria, except that I’m not allowed to review a book I haven’t read and don’t intend to read. I’ve seen enough from that guy to never trust a word he’d say.

May 23rd, 2012, 5:33 pm

SANDRO LOEWE said:

My impression is that President Bashar could be responsible for the operation that killed Assef. We do not know if someone else died last night. We will know later. This kind of operation cannot be easily done from outside the system. So, it is probable that some of those who did not die in the operation had previous knowledge (or at least were not targeted by the assassin). The one who created the crime scene wanted to give credibility to the idea of an attack from outside to avoid negative consequences and negative image crimes being comitted inside the family.

Anyway it seems that black flags have been seen in Assef village and also a retaliation has been executed against the village of the posion executer.

May 23rd, 2012, 5:39 pm

Syria no Kandahar said:

Taliban poisons Afghan School kids and teachers:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/23/world/asia/afghanistan-girls-poisoned/index.html?c=world

Can any one think of similar incident done by Talibans in Syria lately?

May 23rd, 2012, 5:54 pm

SANDRO LOEWE said:

59. Syria on Kandahar

Please be honest. Do not compare kids with the criminal dictator you are trying to defend. If this is the kind of arguments that you can use then it´s good news for the people of future Syria.

It has been 14 months since the beginning of the contest and Assad has probed to be a useless and failing leader. War can take one year or maybe ten but Assad is over.

May 23rd, 2012, 6:11 pm

Syria no Kandahar said:

Sandro Lowe
Criminals are criminals,Terrorists are terrorists and poisoning is poisoning regardless of the victims.
I am not defending any one but I can’t sympathize with any one who gets thrilled to have his (enemies)get poisoned yet he is asking the same enemy to follow the international standards of war
Which are clearly not being followed by the FSA by adhering to criminal poisoning methods.The whole poisoning story I think is imagination of Taifur et all,and I do not really care if Asef is living
Or dead,what I really care about I syria’s future which if it falls in the hands of extremists practicing
Poisoning,kidnapping,hanging mentally handicapped on trees..etc that future is poisoned with 100 drops of that imaginary poison given
To those officers which will turn Syria into a dead body if you know what I mean.

May 23rd, 2012, 6:28 pm

Antoine said:

SANDRO LOEWE,

Where was the poisoner from ?

If indeed Assad committed the murder, then how come there was confirmation from the LCCs and the FSA ? The FSA in fact claimed to have murdered them even before any offical reactrion.

May 23rd, 2012, 6:30 pm

DIGGING FOR GOLD IN BOSRA said:

Antoine,

I heard the same thing a couple of days ago (that he had died) from someone who is usually very reliable in these matters.

I’ll say one thing for Shawkat: his apartment was nice. Top floor of a block on Jawaher lal Nahro between the mosque and the roundabout. It’s real close to Al Shami as well – the poison must have been potent.

May 23rd, 2012, 6:39 pm

hamoudeh said:

Asaad abu khalil is a joke, it claims to be libertarian, but he is supporting to the core shia militia hezbollah, and it’s very rare to see him critizing iran, shia cleric etc etc maybe because Huh ??? his mother or father was shia dont remember.
His position on syria revolution is very hypocrit as was hassouneh in lebanon

May 23rd, 2012, 6:47 pm

Darryl said:

65. ANTOINE said:

_________________________________________________________________

“Same for Iraq ? And Bahrain ?

I hope DARYLL, you did not support the opposition to the former regime in Iraq ( who are ruling the country now), and also do not support the Bahraini Opposition. BEcause they are precisely the kind of people you described in your post.”

Apologies for the late response my dear friend Antoine as I usually take wed off to spend with nature. Any way, Salam Al-MaseeH al-Hai to to you Antoine who is the Christian ego of my old Salafi friend Khalid.

You see what happens to a person when the living Messiah resides in the heart of a person and the Holy Spirit (part of the Holy Trinity not the angel Gabriel that is) opens the mind of a person. Instant transformation occurs from someone who was dropping the F-bombs everywhere to a more eloquent blogger.

My dear friend Antoine, I do not agree with democracy based on religious majority population ruling in the name of democracy whether it is in Bahrain, Iraq or any where else on this beautiful planet.

I am truly impressed with the transformation, blessed the Holy Trinity for its power to change people!

May 23rd, 2012, 6:53 pm

omen said:

The only social indicators that came close to predicting success in transitions to democracy are wealth per capita and the median age of the society.

“the only“? absolutist statements bother me.

i would think literacy rate would be a factor. he doesn’t even mention it.

and the other expert cited in this article, jack goldstone, earlier argued the revolutionaries driving the arab spring aren’t seeking to replace old dictatorships with a new one.

May 23rd, 2012, 7:35 pm

jad said:

Don’t laugh reading this ‘Theatrical’ ‘Comedy’
‘We will risk our lives to free them’
Huh!? from whom? From their friends and employees?
The interesting thing in all this ‘comedy show’ interview is that the ‘head’ of Aljeesh Alkir terrorist group is admitting that there are many ‘MAFIAS’ aka ‘Armed militias’= 3sabat mousala7a,’out there’ which means that Sana, Addounia, Syrian TV and Alikhbariya along Alwatan and Champress and almost every Syrian media outlet were right to call those criminals ‘Armed Militias’.
How ironic is that?
Enjoy the show:
———————-

Free Syrian Army: Mafias Kidnapped Lebanese Pilgrims, We Will Risk Our Lives to Free them

The head of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) Riad al-Asaad condemned on Wednesday the kidnapping of Lebanese pilgrims in Aleppo on Tuesday, revealing that an investigation committee was formed in order to tackle the case, reported the Kuwaiti al-Rai newspaper in an interview to be published Thursday.

He told the newspaper: “Mafias kidnapped the pilgrims and we will risk our life to liberate them.”

He added that the Free Syrian Army has information that the “recently formed financial mafias” are behind the abduction, stressing: “We will play a role in their release.”

“A group of bandits who have taken up base along the border abducted the pilgrims and blamed the Free Syrian Army for it,” he explained.

“The FSA rejects such operations that put people’s lives in jeopardy,” he declared.

“Several sides are exploiting the developments in Syria in order to tarnish our image and that of the revolution,” noted Asaad.

He revealed that the FSA succeeded in determining the location of the captives.

Asked about Hizbullah chief Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah’s intervention to ensure the release of the pilgrims, he remarked: “We demand that Nasrallah distance himself from the Syrian revolution.”

“Our main goal lies in defending the Syrian people and revolt,” he stressed.
{…}
http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/41174-free-syrian-army-mafias-kidnapped-lebanese-pilgrims-we-will-risk-our-lives-to-free-them

May 23rd, 2012, 7:42 pm

irritated said:

Antoind

Btw IRRITATED, you mentioned before that you will change your username to “RELAXED” in April 2012. Today is May 2012. Why hasn’t that happened ?

You mean the decisions to give to all palestinians refugees the same rights as the Syrians, contrary to countries like Lebanon and Jordan, is a decision taken by the people of Syria and not by the government. Does the same applies to the Iraqi refugees?
It’s great, so you’re suggesting that Syria IS a democracy without knowing it.

I have no intention of changing my nickname as long as I have to reply to stupid comments.

May 23rd, 2012, 7:54 pm

bronco said:

Jad

Curiously the kidnapped people were released without any fight.
If it there are criminals, why would they release the captives so easily?
It is possible that the FSA who claims “helped determining the location of the captives” has been involved in negotiations with the “mafias”. It shows that the FSA know very well who is behind these ‘mafias’ and obviously have a leverage on them.

As I mentioned before, the FSA will soon be obliged to join the regular army in the fights against these “mafias” if they really want to protect the citizens from this new deadly threat.

May 23rd, 2012, 8:12 pm

Ghufran said:

3 out of 6 ( pronounced dead by GCC media) are alive and well,Asef is probably alive too,the reports about his death are not convincing,Tartous private social media outlets said that the burial story is fabricated,I personally could not find any credible reports that any of the 6 has been killed . Alquds alarabi was told by a high ranking official that Asef is alive and well. The death of any of the 6 would have been a major development,such a story is very difficult to hide if it was true.
Sanctions,my friends,did not hurt the regime,it made life for the average Syrian even harder,the only part of sanctions that can be defended is the one related to individual officials that were implicated in the violence in Syria,defenders of economic sanctions against Syria “forgot” that those sanctions will isolate Syria and impede progress even if a new regime takes over. Most of those sanctions were imposed by the legislating bodies of western countries,they are very difficult to “undo” and their effect will last for years even after they are officially lifted.

May 23rd, 2012, 8:25 pm

Visitor said:

I commented only once before and I don’t like commenting.
This time I will make one additional comment to express my heartfelt congratulations to all Syrians on their success in getting rid of a notorious criminal; i.e. Shawkat.

Good riddance and I sincerely hope I will make another comment soon congratulating you about demolishing all the remaining regime criminals.

May 23rd, 2012, 8:26 pm

zoo said:

Three factors that will determine Syria’s future
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2012/0202/Three-factors-that-will-determine-Syria-s-future/Strength-and-cohesion-of-the-regime

Much of the analysis of the crisis in Syria looks at the upheaval through a binary lens: Either Bashar al-Assad manages to defeat his political opponents and his regime survives, or the regime collapses and a new political leadership takes control of the country.

But there is a third, increasingly more realistic, possibility – quagmire, says Benedetta Berti, a fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies of Tel Aviv University. That means prolonged internal violence under a weakened and failing – but neither defeated nor failed – Assad regime.

Under this framework, a better question to ask about Syria’s future would be: How long can a regime function in this “failing state limbo,” and how long can it endure massive internal violence before imploding?

In Syria, the answer depends on these three main factors:

1. Strength and cohesion of the regime

President Assad can count on a relatively strong and united regime and, specifically, he can count on the loyalty of the Army and coercive apparatus. Unlike in Tunisia and Egypt, the Syrian military and security branches are closely identified with and connected to the regime. The potential downfall of Mr. Assad directly threatens their own status and power, giving them a strong incentive to continue backing him.

Similarly, the patronage networks created in the past decades by the minority Alawite rulers now serve as an additional incentive for security personnel and government officials alike to stand by the regime. In this sense, the regime is still strong and internally cohesive, despite some defections from the security and policy offices.

2. Strength and cohesion of the civil opposition to the regime

In contrast to the relative unity of the regime, the opposition forces – although having risen in power and status and being able to seriously threaten the regime – still lack strong internal cohesion.
….
3. Degree of international involvement

Despite its involvement, the international community – including the Arab League – has not been willing to strongly take sides in Syria, as it did in Libya. Short of this type of intervention the future of the revolt seems to depend only on the internal balance of power between the regime and its opponents.

At home, the violence of a prolonged quagmire will have an extremely high humanitarian cost. As regime brutality continues, new refugees will be created and the civilian population will keep paying the price in disrupted and destroyed lives.
…..
These concerns make even more urgent the debate over stronger international intervention – first through the creation of a “safe zone” in northern Syria. Such a zone would establish a haven for Syrian civilians fleeing persecution, as well as allow the opposition forces to regroup and get organized politically and militarily. Those are key factors in allowing them to challenge the regime.

May 23rd, 2012, 8:28 pm

Uzair8 said:

Burhan Ghalioun has formally resigned:

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/syria-may-24-2012-0248

May 23rd, 2012, 8:38 pm

MM said:

The poisoning attack needs to be viewed with great suspicion. I wish I had a direct line to Riad al-As’ad to discuss the vetting of the “Al Sahabeh” branch of the FSA — which claimed the attack. The issue is, it is well known that Assef has previously attempted to usurp power from Assad. In addition, this operation has done two things: 1) undermine the credibility of the FSA somewhat, as not all the individuals claimed killed were so, and 2) provided potential cover for those internal to the regime as to who is responsible for Assef’s death (if they were indeed trying to do so). So once again, we have a situation where core elements of the regime may have carefully crafted a scenario which serves their interests best. This may be a indicator that the regime has serious divisions within it — which thus, means we, as the opposition, can sit back and watch the regime war with itself in the interim. This is most welcome – and reminds me of a saying in Syria: “the spell has turned against the sorcerer.” A while back a video was posted by the Al-Farouk battalion of the FSA, where a captured Allawite officer (later released) stated that he prefers to take orders from Assef Shaukat, because in his opinion, “he is a man.” This may have been a premonition that Mr. Shaukat had begun to amass too much power within Allawite circles and was threatening to successfully undermine and overtake Mr. Assad.

May 23rd, 2012, 8:42 pm

zoo said:

Sect or Mainstream Movement?
The Two Faces of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood
05/22/2012
By Alexander Smoltczyk in Ismailia, Egypt
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/muslim-brotherhood-seeks-power-in-egypt-a-834260-2.html

The Muslim Brotherhood is the strongest political force in Egypt, which is holding presidential elections this week, yet opinions are divided over the nature of the movement and what it really wants. A visit to Ismailia, the small city on the Suez Canal where the movement began, provides an insight into the Islamists’ goals.
….
The magazine Foreign Affairs recently compared the movement to Scientology, describing it as secretive, with a sect-like power structure and exercising tight control over its members.
‘Loose Behavior’

In June 1947, Banna sent a list of 50 proposals to the leaders of the Islamic world, and the Egyptian king, in particular. The manifesto, “Towards the Light,” is one of his few political texts. To this day, his critics cite it as an indication of how little the supposedly moderate character of the Brotherhood has in common with reality. It reads like something the Taliban could have written.

In the text, Banna calls for the reintroduction of corporal punishment, the moral supervision of government officials, and the prohibition of prostitution, gambling, alcohol and “ostentation in dress and loose behavior.”

He demands that dance halls be closed and theater and singing performances be subjected to rigorous control and purified of immoral thoughts. Banna’s political program also includes gender separation in schools, the encouragement of memorization of the Koran and the reunification of Islamic countries to form a caliphate.

Today, Banna’s manifesto is disseminated on Ikhwanweb, the Brotherhood’s international website, which states: “Many of the view points and directives it contains still represent the dearest hope of every Arab and every Muslim.”

A Better Human Being

“Of course we want the caliphate,” says Saki. “All Islamic countries must become one nation, but without violence.” He gives the interpreter a serious look. Everything else, he says, including Sharia law and clean living, can only be introduced in the long term, and certainly not by decree. “We must serve as role models, so that others will follow.”

Then Saki says something that points directly at the core of the movement: “We want to change people. Without violence! First the individual, then the family and then the world.”

He is referring to an educational program that culminates in a better human being, which the Brotherhood calls “Renaissance.” It explains why the party wants to occupy key positions in education and culture. For the Brotherhood, this is more important in the long term than gaining control over the police or the judiciary.

more…

May 23rd, 2012, 8:50 pm

irritated said:

#73 MM

Another ‘well crafted scenario’?

The Syrian government should get the Nobel prize for Best Scenarios.

May 23rd, 2012, 8:54 pm

zoo said:

Syria’s New Jihadis
Meet the terrorist group that’s ruining the revolution.
BY AARON Y. ZELIN | MAY 22, 2012
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/05/22/syrias_new_jihadis

Syria suffered its worst terror attack in decades this month when two car bombs exploded near a military intelligence branch in Damascus, killing 55 people and wounding hundreds more. Syria’s state-run news agency was quick to publish gruesome pictures of the victims of the attack, which President Bashar al-Assad’s regime pinned on “foreign-backed terrorist groups.”

At first, the Syrian regime seemed to have evidence to back up its case. On May 12, a video was distributed on YouTube, purportedly from a Palestinian branch of the jihadist group Jabhat al-Nusrah (“The Victory Front” or JN), claiming credit for the attack. But the release turned out to be a fake: On May 14, JN released a statement denying that it was behind the video. At the same time, it did not deny conducting the attack. Rather, JN’s media outlet said it had yet to hear from JN’s military commanders if they perpetrated the bombings.

Whether or not JN was involved in the Damascus attack, the organization has become a real force in recent weeks — and one that threatens to undermine the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the loose network of defectors and local militia fighting the government. Its main goals are to awaken Muslims to the atrocities of the Assad regime, and eventually take control of the state and implement its narrow and puritanical interpretation of Islamic law. To that end, in the past month alone, JN has perpetrated a series of suicide bombings and IED strikes — and the pace of attacks seems to be growing.
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May 23rd, 2012, 8:59 pm

zoo said:

Colonial threads combine to strangle a sectarian Syria

Charles Glass
May 23, 2012
http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/comment/colonial-threads-combine-to-strangle-a-sectarian-syria#page2
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The rebellion against tyranny is turning into a sectarian and class war that could destroy Syria for a generation and drive out those with the talent, education or money to thrive elsewhere. Neither side speaks of conciliation. The end game for both requires the destruction of the other. Foreign backers appear to encourage confrontation, when they should seek agreement to save Syria from the fate of its neighbours Lebanon and Iraq.

A glimmer of hope came from the former World Bank economist Nabil Sukkar. “The opposition is not going to retreat,” he told me in Damascus. “The stalemate could last to 2014.” Bashar Al Assad’s term of office ends that year, when Dr Sukkar believes he could stand down without losing face or having his Alawite community punished.

He continued, “For [Kofi] Annan to succeed, there has to be compromise from both sides. The regime must stop killing, and the opposition must stop smuggling [arms]. And foreigners must stop sending arms. Then there can be a ceasefire and a transition government.” However unlikely that seems today, it could work if Russia and Iran compel the regime and the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar push the opposition to achieve it. Otherwise, Syrian will fight Syrian – just as the Lebanese did – in what the respected Lebanese journalist Ghassan Tueini called “a war for the others”.

May 23rd, 2012, 9:02 pm

zoo said:

La Syrie, nouvelle terre d’élection des djihadistes

Par Georges Malbrunot
22/05/2012 | Mise à jour : 16:02

Plusieurs centaines de combattants étrangers ont afflué pour renverser le régime de Bachar el-Assad. Parmi eux, des Français, dont cinq ont été arrêtés au Liban. Leur présence fait redouter une implantation d’al-Qaida dans un pays à la dérive.

De notre envoyé spécial à Tripoli (Liban) Vétéran du djihad, cheikh Saadedine Ghia, 50 ans, fait régulièrement l’aller-retour entre sa résidence tripolitaine du Liban-Nord et le champ de bataille syrien, à quelques kilomètres de là. «Avant l’aube, je traverse…
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May 23rd, 2012, 9:15 pm

Aldendeshe said:

56. Antoine said:
Assef Shawkat is dead and he was buried today in Madhale in Tartous. Even today, the regime has not offically denied or disputed his death. They have denied the deaths of the others, but they are still silent about Assef Shawkat. There is no “sign of life” so to speak.

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This is doubtful, considering the fact that my grandmother/ grandfather owned this village. I own large tracks in it, and so as many of my cousins inherited as well.

But here is a true real life story from a summer Madhele, swear to you is true. This is the only part I remember about Madhale, never forgot it, the grandma village house of black stones and outside in 1958, then just 5 years of age, the Lebanese first Civil War erupt and Shamoon was vilified in Syria as Israeli puppet. The kids were building piles of black granite stones in a rectangle resembling a grave to bury Israel and the Jews. I was so infuriated by their stupidity and their misdeed, all afternoon, feeling terrible about what they did, not approving, waited till evening and when all having dinner, stepped out and leveled the grave down. Later, the kids upset complained and my Mother after listening to as why I did so, she commanded me.

May 23rd, 2012, 10:01 pm

zoo said:

As it seems Turkey has a leverage and influence over the armed gangs, it is now responsible for their abuses.

Turkey sought in hostage case
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-sought-in-hostage-case.aspx?pageID=238&nID=21487&NewsCatID=338

ANKARA – Hürriyet Daily News

Lebanese leaders have asked Turkey to help mediate to secure the release of 11 Lebanese Shiites allegedly kidnapped in Syria, the Hürriyet Daily News has learned.

Lebanese Prime Minister Najib Mikati and Foreign Minister Adnan Mansour held separate phone conversations with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu late May 22 to help free the Lebanese group, which was on its way home from a religious pilgrimage in Iran when Syrian rebels abducted them.

The Lebanese leaders and the Turkish minister also discussed the reasons behind the incidents that have been extending the Syrian conflict into Lebanon, a Turkish official told the Daily News.

The Lebanese foreign minister said yesterday that authorities had located the 11 Lebanese pilgrims and that he expected they would be released soon. The pilgrims were abducted by “a splinter group of the armed Syrian opposition,” Mansour said, adding that he had been in touch with a number of Arab officials and his Turkish counterpart to try to secure the captives’ return to Lebanon.

Syria’s state news agency blamed rebels for the kidnapping, while Lebanon’s state news agency said the rebel Free Syrian Army, which is seeking the overthrow of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, had abducted 13 pilgrims in the northern province of Aleppo.

Arabic-language Asharq Alawsat yesterday quoted Mustafa al-Sheikh, a former Syrian general exiled to Turkey who claims to have influence over rebels on the ground, as saying his Free Syrian Army was not behind the kidnapping.

In a written statement yesterday, the Syrian National Council condemned the kidnapping of pilgrims and demanded their immediate release. “As we consulted with Free Syrian Army representatives in Aleppo, they [said they] had nothing [to do] with the abduction of the Lebanese group,” a member of the council told the Daily News yesterday. The Syrian administration may have kidnapped the pilgrims in order to raise tensions within Lebanon, he added.

The families of the abducted Lebanese Shiites blocked roads in mainly Shiite neighborhoods of Beirut, demanding the release of men they said were being held captive by Syrian rebels.

Relatives of those being held said the rebels who seized the bus carrying the pilgrims set the women and elderly men free, but held 13 men to demand the release of insurgents.

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May 23rd, 2012, 11:01 pm

zoo said:

Massive strike… in Turkey

Turkish public workers go on landmark strike

ISTANBUL /ANKARA
Following a disagreement between the government and unions over workers’ wages, thousands of public workers go on a one-day strike all across Turkey
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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-public-workers-go-on-landmark-strike.aspx?pageID=238&nID=21472&NewsCatID=339

May 23rd, 2012, 11:05 pm

Juergen said:

DIGGING FOR GOLD IN BOSRA

Well someone who has a nice apartment cant be such a bad person after all right? Nice way of seeing life.

Irritated

You know at times Stalin and Hitler were nominated by some lunatic persons for the nobel peace price, go ahead why dont you form an comittee to pursue a nobel peace price for your beloved leader?

May 24th, 2012, 12:38 am

omen said:

food

Areeha, an agricultural city 50 kilometers southwest of Aleppo and 15 kilometers from the provincial capital Idleb is an important city in terms of produce output. Areeha’s residents grow olives, cherries, apricots and almonds, their produce sold across the country is also an important exporter to Turkey.

[…]

On May 6 a farmer walked up to checkpoint and asked permission to tend his farm. He was allowed through along with a young aide. He was discovered dead with a bullet wound in his head later in the day. Activists said that the same soldiers who allowed him to go his farm opened fire, killing him and injuring his aide. Such incidents still occur in Areeha but less frequently since the monitors’ last visit.

May 27th, 2012, 9:03 pm

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