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Syria is already in a state of civil war. It just happens that one side has all the weapons.

Reminds me of Iraq.

So now that Russia and China are thwarting any UN action, do we:

1.) Continue with the Obama plan of doing nothing or

2.) “Go it alone” ala George W. Bush and Dick Cheney?

Let’s take a vote here (Syrians Only) on intellectually-free “Syria Comment”…

Syrian forces raid neighborhoods near capital

(this title was original “Turkish PM warns of civil war in Syria”)

By ELIZABETH A. KENNEDY

The Associated Press
8:11 a.m. Tuesday, September 13, 2011

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/syrian-forces-raid-neighborhoods-1178004.html

BEIRUT — Syrian security forces riding in vehicles mounted with machine-guns raided neighborhoods outside the capital, Damascus, before dawn Tuesday as Turkey’s prime minister said he was concerned Syria could descend into a sectarian civil war.

Tuesday’s raids were the latest assault on dissent in Syria as the regime tries to crush an uprising against President Bashar Assad’s rule using deadly force that the U.N. estimates has killed 2,600 since March. But the protesters have refused to give in, setting the stage for a drawn-out stalemate.

“I fear that matters will end in civil war between the Alawites and the Sunnis,” Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan told Egyptian daily Al-Shorouk in Tuesday’s edition.

Civil war is perhaps the most dire scenario facing Syria, a fragile jigsaw puzzle of Middle Eastern backgrounds. Syria’s ruling elite belong to the minority Alawite sect, although the country of 22 million is mostly Sunni Muslim.

Erdogan addressed the Arab League in Cairo later Tuesday, telling Arab Foreign Ministers that the legitimate demands of the people in the region should not be repressed by force.

“In the future, we will see that this was the wrong path,” he said.

Turkey is Syria’s neighbor and important trade partner, but its leaders have grown increasingly frustrated with Damascus.

Activists said security forces carried out sweeping arrests and raids early Tuesday. The reports were carried by the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights as well as the Local Coordination Committees, both of which have a wide network of sources on the ground.

Syria has banned foreign media and restricted local press, making it difficult to independently confirm the reports.

Rai’s words draw Jumblatt’s ire

By Hussein Dakroub
September 13, 2011 01:51 AM
Daily Star

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2011/Sep-13/148627-rais-words-draw-jumblatts-ire.ashx#axzz1Xpo8OoR0

BEIRUT: MP Walid Jumblatt assailed Monday Maronite Patriarch Beshara Rai’s controversial statements that linked the fate of Hezbollah’s arms to a Middle East peace settlement, saying Lebanon cannot remain hostage to regional conflicts.

Jumblatt, leader of the Progressive Socialist Party, also disputed Rai’s warning that a regime change in Syria and the possible emergence of the Muslim Brotherhood would pose a threat to the Christians there.

Jumblatt’s comments were the toughest response so far to Rai’s remarks on Syria and Hezbollah’s arms which have evoked a nationwide controversy in Lebanon, drawing harsh criticisms from the opposition March 14 parties, while gaining praise from Hezbollah and its March 8 allies.

Lebanon’s leading March 14 Maronite groups, the Kataeb (Phalange) Party and the Lebanese Forces, have so far refrained from commenting on Rai’s statements, saying they wanted to meet the patriarch to seek clarifications before commenting.

“Linking the fate of Lebanon to the liberation of the Shebaa Farms and linking its future to all the region’s conflicts are rejected,” Jumblatt said in his weekly article to be published by the PSP’s weekly newspaper Al-Anbaa Tuesday.

“Therefore, the [Lebanese-Syrian] borders must be demarcated. This demand had been unanimously approved at the National Dialogue [conference] in 2006,” he said.

Jumblatt recalled the agreement reached by rival leaders from the March 8 and March 14 camps during the 2006 National Dialogue conference on the U.N.-backed Special Tribunal for Lebanon, the defining and demarcation of the Lebanese-Syrian borders, namely in the Shebaa Farms, and the removal of Palestinian arms outside the camps. He said Hezbollah’s arms were the remaining issue to be tackled.

“While affirming the defensive significance represented by the resistance’s arms, it is essential to draw up a defensive plan through which [Hezbollah’s] arms are gradually accommodated in the framework of the Lebanese state as provided for by the [2008] Doha Accord in order to bolster the Lebanese state’s capability to confront any possible Israeli aggression,” Jumblatt said.

Speaking to reporters in Paris and in an interview with the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya satellite channel during his one-week visit to France last week, Rai linked the fate of Hezbollah’s arms to the termination of Israeli occupation of Lebanese territory and the return of an estimated 350,000 Palestinian refugees to their homes in Palestine. He urged the international community to exert pressure on Israel to withdraw from Lebanese territory.

Rai also said that Syrian President Bashar Assad should be given a chance to carry out political reforms in the face of protesters demanding his ouster. He also warned that the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria posed a threat to the Christians there.

Rai’s remarks drew harsh criticisms from some March 14 politicians who said that the patriarch’s comments on the divisive issue of Hezbollah ran contrary to the concept of state building and contradicted with the Maronite Church’s long-standing position in support of state authority.

Responding to Rai’s statements, Jumblatt said: “Linking [Hezbollah’s] arms to the issue of resettlement [of Palestinians] will keep Lebanon held up indefinitely in the framework of regional conflicts. All Arab and regional parties have recognized the Palestinian state. The Palestinians alone are capable of achieving this goal without any tutelage from anyone.”

The PSP leader indirectly scoffed at Rai’s fears that the rise of fundamentalist Muslim groups in Syria would threaten the presence of Christians there. “The scarring remarks said about the rise of Salafist or fundamentalist movements are inaccurate and are used as scarecrows because the popular demands are indivisible. They are axiomatic and basic rights for all the peoples on earth without discrimination,” Jumblatt said.

Addressing his words to Rai, Jumblatt said: “If some circles are concerned about the Christian presence in Lebanon, the best way that enables Patriarch Rai, who is entrusted with this presence in Lebanon and in the Levant and has a wide experience in the Church’s work, to follow in this respect is to form a committee of Christian financiers to prevent the sale of [Christian] lands, and probably exploit the Church’s properties to help poor Christians who emigrate to earn their living.”

On his return to Beirut Sunday, Rai hit back at his critics and defended his remarks on Syria and Hezbollah’s arms which sparked a political storm in the Christian heartland. He said his statements were misinterpreted by some March 14 Maronite politicians.

The opposition March 14 parties, including former Prime Minister Saad Hariri’s Future Movement, have launched blistering campaigns against Hezbollah, calling on the party to surrender its arms to Lebanese authorities. They have also accused Hezbollah of running its own mini-state at the expense of state authority.

Rai met Monday night with Free Patriotic Movement leader MP Michel Aoun, who has praised the patriarch’s remarks on Syria and Hezbollah’s arms.

Following the meeting at the patriarch’s seat in Bkirki, north of Beirut, Aoun told reporters: “It is normal to visit his Beatitude to congratulate him on his safe return. Of course, it is not new for us to support his attitudes because he is entrusted with the Synod for Lebanon and the Synod for the Levant.”

Rai also met separately Monday with some March 14 figures, including former minister Nayla Mouawad, MPs Marwan Hamadeh, Henry Helou and Antoine Saad. He also met with former minister Khalil Hrawi, Joyce Gemayel, wife of Kataeb Party leader Amin Gemayel, and journalist May Chidiac.

Meanwhile, French Ambassador to Lebanon Dennis Pietton described Rai’s visit to France as “successful,” but expressed regret that the patriarch’s statements on Syria and Hezbollah’s arms had caused divisions among the Lebanese.

Speaking to reporters after meeting Prime Minister Najib Mikati at the Grand Serail, Pietton said Rai’s visit to France was “important” during which the patriarch met a number of French officials, including President Nicholas Sarkozy, to discuss Lebanese-French ties, the popular uprisings in the Arab world, including the situation Syria, the STL and the work of the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon.

“But we regret that the patriarch’s visit had aroused this quantity of debate over his statements … We regret that this visit, which was successful and gave the patriarch a chance to express his opinion, had touched off this debate and divisions among the Lebanese in the Lebanese political arena,” Pietton said.

That pathetic little X-Box goon is afraid of a 66 year old psychoanalyst. He needs a psychoanalysis himself.

Syria arrests prominent psychoanalyst

(AFP) – 4 hours ago

NICOSIA — Syrian authorities detained a prominent psychoanalyst as she was preparing to board a flight to Paris from Damascus, her husband said in a statement seen Tuesday.

Rafa Nached was arrested by officers in Syria’s air force intelligence service on Saturday as her luggage was being scanned at Damascus airport, said Faisal Mohammed Abdullah, professor of ancient history at Damascus University.

“She is suffering from several diseases and she was heading to Paris for family and health reasons,” Abdullah said of his 66-year-old partner.

He added that he would be “initiating legal procedures at the ministry of justice to get an official answer about my wife’s situation.”

Nached, a French-speaking Syrian psychoanalyst, received her degree in clinical psychology from the University of Paris-Diderot, and was the first female psychoanalyst to practise in Syria.

She recently founded the Damascus School of Psychoanalysis, in collaboration with French colleagues.

Nached was one of the organisers of weekly meetings for Syrians of all backgrounds and political affiliations to discuss their concerns in the face of a deadly crackdown by the security forces on six months of protests against the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

111. Akbar Palace said:

“You can count on me! BTW, what is the difference between mamnhebaks and Menhebak?”

boker tov Akbar

Menhebak stand for Patriotism

mamnhebaks stand for terrorism

Welcome to sunni comment/SC/syria comment NO more,I smell oil?
petro-dollar corrupt the gods!

Menhebaks haven’t woken up yet? LOL! Or maybe Besho’s cheques have been bouncing.

“Welcome to sunni comment/SC/syria comment NO more”

Aweeee. Poor little Persian has his feelings hurt that most of the menhebaks have turned tail and fled this forum, or else gotten themselves banned LOL! 🙂

It is a depressing outlook. I assume this american-syrian business man lives in the US. I am curious to hear the views of Syrian businessmen living in Syria. Anyone there?

I read there were popular meetings across Syria regions to prepare for “reforms”. Is it true? How useful are they now that there is talk of armed opposition?

I also read that the defected officer Harmush has been arrested. What happened to the free army he organized?

Also what happened to Adnan Bakkur? Dr Joshua Landis reported he was in the government’s hands. Is it true? Otherwise why is he silent?
So many questions, sorry. It is so confusing to understand what is going on. I hope someone may help.

If either Harmush or Bakkur were in government hands, the government would have shown them by now. My own opinion is that Bakkur is still in Syria. Harmush was last seen leaving a Turkish journalist’s house with representatives of the Turkish intelligence apparatus.

“Stone Age, Here We Come,”
Barack Hussein Obama….one and done….YES WE CAN!

Libya Could Fall to Islamic Extremists: NATO
Tensions growing between rebel camps

The fall of Moammar Gadhafi’s regime has created a power vacuum in Libya that could be exploited by Islamic extremists, warns NATO’s secretary-general. As splits emerge in the rebel leadership and the remnants of Gadhafi’s forces launch fresh attacks, the former rebels need to form a stable government without delay, Anders Fogh Rasmussen tells the Telegraph. NATO is in the final phase of its operation, and things could move very fast if Gadhafi is killed or captured, he says.

The head of Libya’s Transitional National Council, Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, spoke to a crowd of thousands in Tripoli last night, calling for the creation of a civil, democratic state, AP reports. “No retribution, no taking matters into your own hands and no oppression. I hope that the revolution will not stumble because of any of these things,” he said. Abdul-Jalil, Gadhafi’s former justice minister, is one of the most widely respected rebel leaders, and insiders say he is struggling to keep the peace between Islamic conservatives and more secular figures competing to form Libya’s new government

Dear Abboud
I agree totally with you about Mr Bakkour.
As for officer Harmush, I found this piece of news about his arrest. It seem the Turks gave him away. What game are they playing?

Turkey handed over defector to the Syrian army.
http://www.albawaba.com/news/turkey-handed-over-defector-syrian-army-391767

Daisie

Harmoush and Bakkur stories are quite puzzling. I read that his son was either arrested or killed in Jabal al Zawyah. If officer Harmoush was last seen accompanied by Turkish intelligence agents, how come opposition figures such as Ammar Qurabi are not asking for his whereabouts? What about journalists?
In regard to Bakkur, the last we heard is that he took refuge in Cyprus and that he hand delivered the ICC documents proving that Bashar al Assad personally ordered the killing of demonstrators. Why haven’t we heard anything further?

I have been saying for many years on this site that the Assad regime is just a mafia that doesn’t care about the Syrian people. Finally this is being acknowledged by Syrians. It is a pity that Prof. Landis and Alex could not bring themselves to acknowledge this before but instead chose to give the regime chance after chance. That is really how Syria got to where it is. Assad was able to bamboozle Syria’s liberal minded elites and convince them that he was the only alternative and a winning horse.

I respect Prof. Landis for changing his view once facts have become more obvious. Now I would like to hear from Alex.

“The fall of Moammar Gadhafi’s regime has created a power vacuum in Libya that could be exploited by Islamic extremists, warns NATO’s secretary-general. ”

I think the word here should be “encourages” instead of “warns”.

Clearly when NATO bombs the bananas out of Libya, they already know it will create a “power vacuum” (what a civilized white man word) and would be fertile grounds for Islamists. So why do they give these little shows called press conferences? why does it seem like he is surprised like this is news to anybody? Well we all know the answer. Go in with that YES WE CAN attitude, destroy the country, secure contracts and start pumping oil, while at the same time creating another Islamist-infested failed state that would guarantee your presence in the country and the region while also setting up for future involvement in different countries.

The game is clear. But this is irrelevant to us Arabs. It’s clear to the Russians and the Chinese. To the Indians, the Latin Americans, the South Africans and other aspiring nations who are witnessing this military beast called NATO becoming the new policeman of the world. A corrupt immoral policeman who is taking on countries one by one in order to secure resources and future absolute military superiority over the rest of the world of 6 Billion people. This is not a way to build for a better future of humanity. The new emerging world powers will not let this continue for long. If they let NATO have its way today, they won’t allow it later.

What we hope for, we the free people of Syria, that NATO will be stopped before they destroy our country as well, whether by direct military occupation like is happening or about to happen in Libya, or by inciting internal violence and crippling the economy through sanctions. We aspire that the rest of the international community will continue to see the current world events as extreme and worrying signs, and will keep their stance in opposing military involvement in sovereign countries under the false premise of spreading freedom and democracy.

S.

AP

Thanks. Please provide a link too.

Mnhebaks means “we love you”. We use it as a derogatory expression to describe Besho’s lovers. Syria has had many signs, banners and billboards with that expression as part of the personality cult that Bashar and his thugs enforced. You also see occasional clips of mnhebaks slaves prostrating to Besho’s picture.

Mamnhebak means “we do not love you”. In Syrian slang, we add “ma” to mean “no”

So in conclusion, mnhebaks are the slaves and Mamnhebaks are the free people.

Dear Tara

you sound to me more like a grandmother who just started watching LBC and MTV politics talk shows recently. If Harmosh was caught (and this point was raised by ABBOUD) then the Syrian government won’t display him. They will probably give him the military trial he deserves for deserting and betraying his country in a time of crisis and then execute him probably. That’s how it goes for military personelle. They are not civilians. They Syrians are known to keep their secrets to themselves and make their deals under the table. No one will ever know anything. Even if the information about his capture were to bring happiness and comfort to Syrias, the government will likely not reveal it (unless they have something specific in mind)

Also, regarding the other point you raise like an innocent grandma, the Syrian intelligence won’t leave such important documents proving that Assad was involved in anything as small and insignificant as ordering KFC. They are not children but highly capable professionals. Mr. Bakkour neither has access to anything of substance nor did he defect. I just hope and pray for his safety and that the government was able to free him from his captures.

come on, this forum has become devoid of any real tangible material worth discussing. it has become the battle field for posting articles from the pro and anti-besho camps. aboud, i request you dont take the route , hsyrian and ann, have taken. idiots can drag you down to their sad levels and beat you up with their experience. you and i , dont need articles from sketchy sources to tell us whats going on in midan or in deblan. true , everyone should have the right to post what he believes is crucial to this issue but hsyrian turned this website into SANA’s website. and im pretty sure ann’s intentions aren’t that pure. ann cherry picks articles that can vaguely have any relation to the syrian cause. usually i check the titles and see if it’s worth reading but sometimes its pathetic!.

“They will probably give him the military trial”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Military trial. Just like they gave his brother when they killed him? Just like they gave the brother of Bakkour when they killed him?

Hey menhebaks, how many of the 2,600 murdered Syrians were given trials?

How many of the 15,000 prisoners have had their “day in court”.

Deserting an army of oppression isn’t treason, it’s patriotism.

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In Athadstan, drug dealers and car thieves are let out of prison early to murder civilians. In Athadstan, that’s called probation.

Menhebaks get an STD, and then blame it on Al-Jazeera.

SGID

“aboud, i request you dont take the route ”

If we don’t post the articles here, Landis doesn’t post them on his main page. Every article I’ve quoted has come from reliable news sources. SpANN’s websites don’t get 50,000 visitors a month.

Dear Syrian Prometheus, thank you for sharing your perspective on the unfolding Syrian saga.
I would like to comment on a few opoints that you made.

“The economic costs of this revolution will be staggering.
International banking institutions have already stopped accepting US dollar payments from Syrian merchants.
There are many bankruptcies looming”

Yes indeed, but only for the big cats and only in terms of inconvenience !
But they can and will weather it!

“This, of course, means layoffs which will bring even less demand and will establish a vicious cycle of contraction, unemployment, and failure”

The unemployment rate is so high now that any ensuing lay off would probably go unnoticed on the streets.

The 4 decades of Asad-Makhloof rule hardships have made Syrians remarkably resilient and fastidious. A few more months would hardly make a difference.

“With continued embargos, sanctions, and economic pressures, the expectation is that the Syrian leadership will either be overcome by fear and throw down its guns, or develop a conscience when it notices that the sanctions are exacting a heavy toll on Syria’s most vulnerable citizens (Much as they did in Iraq between 1991 and 2003)”

The revolution, represented by demonstrators and activists have no illusions about the intentions of The Mob leadership to fight it to their last mercenary before they flee the scene!

The most vulnerable citizens whom the US and EU sanctions are exacting a heavy toll on are the big and intermediate business. Things can only get better for the unemployed and the small business who are barely making it.

More…….

Tara said: “In regard to Bakkur, the last we heard is that he took refuge in Cyprus and that he hand delivered the ICC documents proving that Bashar al Assad personally ordered the killing of demonstrators. Why haven’t we heard anything further?”

My guess (and there’s no evidence at all) is that he never left Syria, that he was killed so as not to lose his propaganda value in the interests of his kidnappers.

Just say “Lah”

In Syrian slang, we add “ma” to mean “no”

Lah?! :o)

Tara,

shukran for the explaination.

I respect Prof. Landis for changing his view once facts have become more obvious.

AIG,

I’m not impressed. I want to see a THREAD where Professor Josh apologizes to this audience. Professor Josh is extremely well educated, however, a REAL “liberal minded elite” would always staunchly support freedom. Always!

If ME studies are supossedly packed full of “liberal minded elites”, they wouldn’t be the strongest supporters and excusers of thuggish, murderous, despots who fail to bring BASIC freedoms to their people.

“Liberal Minded Elites” have ruined ME studies from here to China, including Ben Gurion, Tel Aviv, and Haifa Universities.

whatever ABBOUD. Don’t get hung up on semantics. I clearly said he will probably face execution. We all know how our country is effectively run.

Dear Syrian prometheus,

“If anyone thought that corruption and graft were widespread today, just wait.
Moral standards will become so twisted in the coming year and the need for survival so strong that the Syrian social contract will metastasize into something unimaginable.
Society as we know it will collapse”

On the contrary, this revolution, represented by the demonstrators and behind them the activists have shown the highest degrees of discipline and the real attributes of good citizenship, in the face of the highest levels of intimidation and brutality.

The anger of underprivileged citizens at the slaughter of a man by London police lead to a state of anarchy, including looting and vandalism.

Not in Syria it did not! The 4 decade long anger at confiscating every citizen’s right to self determination in their own country and the massacre, torture and displacement of thousands of citizens is being expressed with sheer brave and honourable civility.

A badly wounded and burdened demonstrator was greeted by an anonymous good Smaritan as he was leaving the hospital who swapped his paper bill for what it was worth in cash!
The true fabric of Syrians is made of this.

Cheers!

Syrian Prometheus
Outstanding analysis. Confirming every single time I called the thugs mafiosos. I happen to agree with you and I too do not know, on my own, how to get out. But all of us together, I am sure can.

When a bunch of organized crime bosses and thugs are willing not only to capitalize on the weakness of human beings but to gamble on the breakage of the social contract, then one must think out of the box as well as in the box. I am afraid that arming themselves is what people will do.

This regime behaves like mafia syndicate, it is then high time to call in some real good District Attorneys along with some few honest cops. And as Revlon has just posted, a lot of good, decent humanity we hope to regain instead of lose.

Dear prometheus, lastly

“With continued embargoes, sanctions, and economic pressures, the expectation is that the Syrian leadership will either be overcome by fear and throw down its guns, or develop a conscience when it notices that the sanctions are exacting a heavy toll on Syria’s most vulnerable citizens (Much as they did in Iraq between 1991 and 2003)”

The revolution, represented by demonstrators and activists have no illusions about the intentions of The Mob leadership to fight it to their last mercenary before they flee the scene!

The most vulnerable citizens whom US and EU sanctions are exacting a heavy toll on are the big and intermediate business. Things can only get better for the unemployed and the small business who are barely making it.

“The continued poverty and the absence of the rule of “fair” law will continue to corrode the social fabric of the nation.

Poverty alone does not corrode the social fabric of a nation, the absence of the rule of law does.

The revolution has succeded in replacing the regime’s lawless state by a genuine self imposed discipline in abiding by natural rules of descency, common laws, and cherished religious moral values.

I am glad to see that you have decided to speak up and share the rising crowds’ yearning for a better future.

Solitarius

I do not watch LBC or MTV. I only watch Disney Channel and only when it shows cartoon movies. I like it more. Also, the regime is not made of capable people. It is made of retarded peasants heading security branches who lack intelligence or tactic, headed by an eye doctor who probably passed his medical tests via “wasta”. Finally, I agree that even for an IQ of 110 (my estimation of Besho’s IQ) it is unlikely that besho signed any document to that effect. I was quoting what was posted on SC few days ago.

Isn’t it funny how unitelligent peasants who lack tactic ruled over smart resourceful Syrians like you for 40 years? I mean they ruled over me and my sons as well so it’s not like I’m better.. but just an observation.

Also why do you call them peasants Tara? Clearly they work in the cities or were even born in the cities and know as much about farming as you do.

Are you saying that in reference to their past or the past of their fathers? the past of social injustice that they were forced into by the Ottomans and fellow Syrian Sunni landlords? Just wondering the source of your joke so I can laugh with you.

I have no doubt that Syria’s Mafia is protected by the world leading powers. The latest support, was from the new Lebanese Patriarch, his statement as audacious as Hizbullah’s statement, if not more. It was 180 degree detour from his predecessor. He, like all religious leaders, who uses religion for political achievements is a disgrace, today and yesterday.

But what concerns me the most in Prometheus article, “It seems that banks have decided that sanctions against the Syrian government imply an embargo on private citizens as well.”

These sanctions are a clear invitation for dividing the Syrian street even further, a civil war did not materialize, with all the effort put forward by the Mafia and the clamour from the West.

Junior is their man. Why do they deny us our freedom?

The Bravery on Syrian streets will not stop until this regime/mafia is toppled. Their aim is to live with dignity, without humiliation and fearless. Their demands are legitimate. The west support is illegitimate, in fact its criminal.

OTW
I am surprised,you came a long way, but it is not late yet.

As far as Bakkour and Harfoush,the fact that we have not heared anything is a bad sign,I doubt that Bakkour is in Cyprus,we would have heared something from him by now, i am afraid about him, Harfoush is most likely he is in Turkey, Turkish authority would be making a huge mistake to deliver him to Syrian authority, but since he tried to escape several times, i suspect he is in jail in Turkey.

Prometheus analysis,is a depressed one.

sometime I feel that we must get rid of Nouri AlMaliki so we can get rid of Bashar

Martyr Child Izzat AlLababidi; His head was split by a sniper bullet, at the order of Thug One Jr.
+18 12 09 2011

Do we still need to see more before we fully support the seeking international logistical, training and reconnaissance support of the FSA and FOM?

AlFatiha upon Izzat’s soul,
May God bless his family with solace and empower them with patience.
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This video shows how trying to send and SMS message that include the word Salat in Arabic would consistently yield a “failed to send” error message.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrVIf4Nos0Y&feature=player_embedded

You can send it if you use a brief form, like Sala, Sal, Sa.
It just shows how desparate and clueless Makhloof-Asad syndicate have become.

Solitarius

Serious respectful post demands respectful answer.

The fact that Assads ruled over Syria for 40 years do not mean that they are intelligent. It just means they were brutal. They have done nothing to advance Syria. They forced good portion of smart intelligent Syrians out. When I graduated from Damascus University, the first ten in the class left Syria and got dispersed around the world. All without exception made original scientific contributions published in the most respected American and international journals. Syrians are pretty smart yet Syria is a backward country thanks to those… peasants.

In regard to your “peasant” question, I must say I used it to annoy you. I am so enraged with the killing and torture that I sometimes use terms that do not reflect how I view the world. As you know, “peasants” is meant to imply Alawis. I truly do not view Alawis as backward peasants. I respect people based on their personal traits not their sect/ religion. I did have great Alawi mentors that I liked very much and I would never discriminate against people based on their religious belief. I actually do feel that Alawis unfortunately got held hostage by Assads and can somewhat find them excuse of not openly supporting the revolution. I can’t find excuse though for the killers and monsters among them.

To all of you,

Is it true that Muslim societies have to have Muslim leaders , presidents , Shia or Sunni ,

Up-date to post4:
Détails sur l’arrestation de la psychanalyste syrienne Rafah Nached
http://syrie.blog.lemonde.fr/

“How does one get off this train wreck? Damned if I know.”
In Greek mythology,prometheus means champion of mankind or creater of mankind .
prometheus,your”Damned if I know”Clichés,IS a double negative to your written complex Analysis of current syrian issues.
ln closing,I recommend that you change your nick-name to doomsday.
doomsday makes you more competent AMIGO!

the silly same term !
“We will return Syria back to the Stone Age,” an Israeli minister was quoted as saying in British paper, the Sunday Times. The paper reported that this sentiment was communicated to Damascus via a third party.

Revlon,
I can send texts with the word salat, I tried it yesterday.
That’s the problem with these news sources they’re not professional but they’re the best we got. We have to resort to them, thanks to besho. Nevertheless they have
Proven to be the best weapon we got. Had this revolution occurred 20 years ago, it would have never dreamed of entering it’s second month.

The sanctions card is obviously an external ploy to influence and determine the fate of Syria.

When external ploys are directed against Iran (including sanctions), Iranians for the most part rally in support of their country.

We’ll just have to see if the Syrian people are made of the same mettle.

#33

Is it true that Muslim countries deserve a legitimate leader? I think will be me more appropriate, No?

How fare will Saudi Arabia go? Which impacts will this have for (the) futur (of) syria?

Die Reihen geschlossen halten
Die Niederschlagung dieser Unruhen war für Saudi-Arabien um so wichtiger, als es in seinem Ostteil, wo das Erdöl gefördert wird, über eine sporadisch unruhige schiitische Minderheit herrscht. Ein Überspringen des revolutionär-demokratischen Funkens von Bahrein auf die ostarabischen Fördergebiete wäre bedrohlich gewesen. Sein Geld hilft Riad, seinen Einfluss zu wahren – etwa auch im Jemen, wo Saudi-Arabien seit Jahrzehnten in der Innenpolitik mitmischt.
Als Vormacht des sunnitischen Islams gegenüber dem schiitischen Iran und als Hüter der heiligen Stätten in Mekka und Medina hat Saudi-Arabien auch ein Interesse daran, Turbulenzen unter den Arabern zu vermeiden, die Reihen geschlossen zu halten und sie ruhigzustellen. Unter saudischer Führung haben die Außenminister der im Golf-Kooperationsrat (GCC) zusammengeschlossenen Staaten der Arabischen Halbinsel am Wochenende in Dschidda ein „sofortiges Ende der Tötungsmaschinerie“ in Syrien und die Verwirklichung „ernsthafter Reformen“ verlangt. Dem 1981 gegründeten GCC gehören Saudi-Arabien, Kuweit, Bahrein, Qatar, die Vereinigten Arabischen Emirate und Oman an. In Saudi-Arabien selbst hat König Abdullah in den vergangenen Jahren auf kommunaler Ebene einige Veränderungen durchgesetzt. Von außen betrachtet, waren das Marginalien.

Syrian Citizens: At the bottom of the Arab World’s Food-chain

Mango, the “Stone Age” term also came from the thread Professor Josh posted above. See the last sentence (* Syrian Prometheus is a Syrian-American businessman.).

Now I would like to take this time to thank:

1.) His Majesty, The King of Jordan, for his statement:

“Jordan and the future of Palestine are stronger than Israel. It is the Israelis who are worried today,” Abdullah told the audience late Sunday.

2.) Prime MInister of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan for his statement:

“I asked President Obama whether the reason he showed no interest in one of his nationals being killed was because [the victim] was [ethnically] Turkish – he didn’t reply,” said Erdogan.

3.) Egypt’s military Leaders™

“Egypt’s military rulers ignored pleas from US as mob attacked Israeli embassy”

Meanwhile, Syrians are still getting slaughtered:

More people killed in Syrian military operations, rights group says

Among the dead was a 12-year-old boy shot to death when Syrian security forces fired on a funeral procession, according to the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights..

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-12/world/syria.unrest_1_syrian-revolution-local-coordination-committees-syrian-president-bashar-al-assad?_s=PM:WORLD

“Syria is being shaken down by a regime which acts remarkably like an organized-crime racket. To assume that it would respond to the tools of diplomacy and public opinion is naively optimistic.” – syrian prometheus

this organized-crime-racket regime would be zionized america-nato, correct.

would the “tools of diplomacy” be the never ending threats, hostile demands and the sanctions that create misery, poverty, illness, death.

yes, this is the diplomacy of barbaric thugs.

never should the govt of syria, or any govt, acquiesce to hypocrits, murderers, thieves, liars, and traitors.

NZ,
So you do not think that there should be set a side and quotas or even mentioning of the religion of people in government.

If that is right, i agree, all have the same chance .

Norman,
God forbid that happens. Syria will become a Lebanon-style “democracy” .
Posts would be assigned according to religion rather than merit. ( kinda like the Syrian military) . I will be honest with you Norman, many people here wish to be ruled by some one from their own sect, especially the Muslims. I hope I’m wrong.

Norman,
God forbid that happens. Syria will become a Lebanon-style \”democracy\” .
Posts would be assigned according to religion rather than merit. ( kinda like the Syrian military) . I will be honest with you Norman, many people here wish to be ruled by some one from their own sect, especially the Muslims. I hope I\’m wrong.

This has seriously got to top all the revolution videos out there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xDodDW2cQM&skipcontrinter=1

I really wish to know what the opposition have to say on this one.

90% of them revolution videos are of this same caliber. The only difference is that this one somehow skipped the editors’ scissors.

To DANCING SHLOMO (42),
Like you, I do hold a very dim view of external influence and coercion when applied against Syria.
When I spoke about the tools of diplomacy, I was addressing the regime’s willingness to sit down with the majority of Syrians. You know, the Syrians it did not listen to for the last 40 years. Sure, there were some vague promises of reform (some of which were back-tracked on) and some photo ops to bolster the lie that it does listen. But, just look at the Emergency Law. It was lifted and, soon thereafter, 15,000 Syrians were arrested without warrants or judicial proceedings.
You use a strongly patriotic language to denounce the foreign thugs. But, the real thugs are those who return children to their parents, minus a few unattached body parts.
40 years of slogans and lies are enough. Really. Enough. I don’t want to hear the regime’s propaganda machine anymore. We are all aware of our low standing with the west. But, it is no longer a cart-blanche to perpetuate the lies and oppression.

SGID,

That is sad indeed.

MAJEDKHALDOUN

Don’t be surprised, the low intelligence and sloganeering of regime loyalists on Syria Comment and elsewhere can only make one more resolute. Heck, even those who oscillate now see the regime for what it is and see its base for the …. pool it is. just read the loyalists’ comments.

Also, anyone who hadn’t recognize what Bashar is right through the WSJ interview would either be stupid, or a partner in the crime of the regime. And I am neither.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/ausland/naher-osten-und-afrika/Der-Mann-der-Demokratie-und-Islam-zusammengebracht-hat/story/15687447

Add to post40:
When will Erdogan travel to Syria?

Der türkische Ministerpräsident Recep T[a]yyip Erdogan reist nach Ägypten, Tunesien und Libyen – die Länder der arabischen Revolution. Was bezweckt er mit dieser Reise?
[Arnold Hottinger:] Für Erdogan ist das eine Prestigefrage. Er reist mit 200 Begleitpersonen aus verschiedenen Bereichen nach Nordafrika. Er will vor Ort praktisch an die Sache herangehen. Fruchten seine Gespräche mit der Regierung, können sich seine Experten direkt vor Ort mit den Details auseinandersetzen. Diese praktische Hilfe steht ganz im Gegensatz zur finanziellen Unterstützung von allen anderen Staaten. Die meisten Länder überweisen einen Geldbetrag und das wars.
[…]

@45 Yet again, substandard comprehension passing itself off for proof. Do you expect the camera man to get up close and video the army? While shooting and firing is going on?

That video was shot on the 22nd August 2011, in Baba Amr. Are you claiming that there is no army presence in Baba Amr at all? Then not only are you a liar, you insult the intelligence of your readers.

“No army in Baba Amr”. The menhebaks will tell any lie to save the ass of their God Besho.

Now excuse me while I go out and spit on the Russian flag. Eri bi Medvedev wa eli khalafo.

Memo To: THE SHLOMOS

RE: “…never should the govt of syria acquiesce to hypocrits, murderers, thieves, liars, and traitors…”

You forgot to include posers, pederasts and popinjays

Norman

I can answer your question myself, but since I’m posting anonymously I think my words won’t have much weight in terms of credibility … I prefer you watch these two videos and draw your own conclusions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tK9lmmHHZI

WOW ABOUD.. you surpassed expectations. If you cannot see the total fabrication and acting going on in that video then you are completely blind or you did not watch the video. This video is so indefensible that it’s not even worth my time arguing.. unbelievable.

This is the video for people who missed it from the first page:

Solitarius (since you are a businessman), Aboud, Tara, OTW, Majedkhaldun,
Could you explain me why the Syrians should chose the worse time for their revolution, a time when the US, the EU are fighting for Chinese, Russian, and Gulf money? Did you hear about the financial crisis and the analyses of Rubini and Jorion?
You probably know that a lot of expats and foreigners where starting to send money in Turkey, Egypt, Syria, because of the stock exchange crisis which has started since 2008, no?

Dear MINA

First of all I’m not sure I fully understand your question.

“starting to send money in Turkey, Egypt, Syria,”

Send money from where to where exactly?

Also you base your question on false assumptions. You say “Syrians started their revolution”. That’s wrong. Fida’ Al Sayyed started HIS facebook revolution against Bashar al Assad (weird way to name a revolution) and there were legitimate local demands here and there.. these demands were mismanaged at times and very quickly were hijacked by armed Syrians who were paid by local rich merchants and foreign intelligence agencies trying to destabilize Syria. Whether the events eventually turned into a real popular revolution against the regime is another question and I personally think it has NOT culminated yet as the major cities are still siding with the government and the majority of the population is still largely supportive of the government. Do not be misled by the atmosphere you sense online. The opposition is largely confined to their online niche. On the ground people continue to live their daily life.

So now I think you need to rephrase your question if you agree that your assumptions were inaccurate.

NK,
so from what i understand and i did not have time to listen all the way, there is nothing in Islam to say that a non Muslim can be president, Am i right,?

By the way you said before that you are from a Sunni family from Aleppo.

the ambassadors of the USA, France and Japan attended the funeral ceremony of Ghyath Matar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOpWhZV8les
hehehe weren’t menhebaks having an orgasm when the ambassador of japan returned to syria, boy did that backfire

Norman,

The Constitution, “AlDustoor”, every legitimate country has one. Changing it in five seconds when it suits a family, or changing one’s sect to fit the constitution is Machiavelian.

Only, during the thuggish Assad family, anything that suits their mood or need of the day can be changed, on the spot. Their duplicity and bad faith is legendary akin to Machiavel and his principles. Cunning and unprincipled, to put it mildly.

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Thank you ambassador Ford for standing with the free Syrians…

Solitarius,
I meant that destabilizing some of the “non-aligned” emergent countries is a way to make sure the wealth and savings of expats don’t go there, but rather either 1)stay in Europe and the US, or 2)go to investements in “friendly” countries. This is my analysis after reading the comments today on http://www.pauljorion.com

The stock market in Syria is down to 915,it keeps on going down,
I think anyone who sends money to Syria,should expect to loose them,when the Assad leaves,the real estate in Damascus is expected to drop in value,especially in Malki area,and Ya3foor.

Tayyar Benaa Syria started its meeting, and I encourage all Syrian to join and send a support letter.
I hope the Arab League sponsor a fund to arm the Syrians,we need to complete this arming as soon as we can,all those leaders from outside will be surprised .

The free syrians will be settling of scores with the killers …Soon.. and Norman No Way we will allow a low life like you and other Menheiback form Allentown to rule Syria. Get lost you loser

Hope ‘n Change 5.0

Fears rise as Egypt cracks down on press

By Heba Saleh in Cairo

The authorities in Egypt have widened emergency laws and clamped down on the press, raising fears of a curtailment of the liberties gained after the popular uprising which toppled Hosni Mubarak, the former president, earlier this year.

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, in power during a promised transition to elected rule, said on Sunday night that it was widening emergency legislation to cover a range of “threats to public order” including “attacks on the freedom to work” – code for strikes – and the deliberate dissemination of rumours and false information.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/06fa53cc-dd56-11e0-9dac-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1XrKR6qfI

Ambassador Ford is an American hero! His visit to Ghyath Matar funeral ceremony to extend his condolences is historic.

Are U.S./NATO powers aiming to make Syria into Libya 2.0?
Progressives should oppose imperialist intervention
By Mazda Majidi
September 9, 2011
Pro-Assad demonstrators in Damascus, March 25

After NATO overthrew the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, a question raised by media outlets is whether Syria will be “Libya 2.0?” Will the imperialists succeed in removing another nationalist state and replacing it with a client one?

On Aug. 18, President Obama called on Syrian President Bashar-al Assad to step down. European leaders have joined the calls for Assad’s ouster. On Sept. 2, the European Union banned all crude oil imports from Syria. As the EU is Syria’s main trading partner, the oil embargo is far more severe than the earlier sanctions, which mainly placed travel restrictions on Syrian officials. The sanctions and the embargo are implemented to impose a severe economic crisis on Syria.

NATO member and Syria’s neighbor Turkey has joined in, with Turkish President Abdullah Gul stating: “We’ve lost our confidence” in Assad. In addition, the Arab League, comprised mainly of U.S. client states, has called on the Syrian regime “to follow the way of reason before it is too late.”

The same line-up of international forces that called for the overthrow of the Libyan government, and eventually overthrew it through NATO’s military campaign, is now lined up against the Syrian regime.

Since March, Syria has been the scene of rallies and armed attacks against the Ba’ath Party regime headed by Assad. Long before the demonstrations, Syria was targeted for regime change by the U.S. government and its imperialist allies. This is why the business media quickly labeled the rallies as “pro-democracy,” a characterization signaling that the attempt to overthrow the regime meets the approval of the imperialists.

Whatever the term “pro-democracy” means, it is not an accurate summary of the opposition, which is a heterogeneous mix of various forces. The people who have joined large rallies have actually had different, and sometimes contradictory, political demands.

There are those demonstrators, led or influenced by the Muslim Brotherhood, who oppose the secular nature of the rule of the Ba’ath Party and are fighting for the establishment of a Sunni Islamic state. There are Kurds who are protesting the underdevelopment and impoverishment of predominantly Kurdish areas of the country. There are those, heavily represented among bloggers and tweeters, who favor a pro-Western regime.

Many have grievances against economic problems, brought about by corruption of the people in and around the regime, and exacerbated by the world capitalist economic crisis. And all of those in opposition have grievances against the regime’s repressive apparatus, which has a reputation for being ruthless.

Opposition to the regime is stronger in certain regions and cities, such as the southern city of Dara and the Kurdish areas in the northeast. The opposition also appears to be stronger among Sunni Muslims, far less so among Christians and Alawites. In some instances, opposition actions appear to be well-organized, as evident by the launching of armed attacks against the regime. In others, it is simply unarmed people walking out of mosques and forming spontaneous protests.

There is no clear leadership among the opposition forces. Imperialist leaders are ever conscious that, irrespective of the demands and grievances of individual demonstrators, the determining factor is the leadership of a movement, not the sentiments of the rank and file. This is why U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently said, “Just as we have done in Libya, we are also encouraging the Syrian opposition to set forth their own roadmap.”

NATO did, in fact, encourage the Libyan opposition to set forth a roadmap. But the roadmap was not as much their own as it was that of the imperialist powers. The true function of the new government was aptly described by a Reuters article: “A new Libyan government could herald a bonanza for Western companies and investors.”

Another National Transitional Council, another media campaign

NATO leaders should have taken heart at developments on Aug. 23. A group of opposition figures met in Ankara, Turkey, and announced the formation of the “Syrian National Transitional Council.” The group chose 94 people as members of the council, most of whom live abroad, including the group’s leader, Dr. Burhan Ghalioun, a university professor living in Paris.

There were statements from opposition figures within Syria protesting the fact that the group had little grassroots basis within Syria. However, reaction from imperialist states indicated a high level of satisfaction with the formation of this group.

The fact that the group chose the name National Transitional Council is no accident. This is the name that the Libyan pro-imperialist opposition chose for itself. The Libyan National Transitional Council’s signature political characteristic was inviting an imperialist invasion. First, it called for a NATO intervention. Then, realizing that the rebels’ contribution to the overthrow of the regime would be minimal, it called for a more intense bombing of the country. Finally, the NTC turned itself into the foot soldiers of the imperialists, officially serving under the command of NATO.

By choosing the same name, the Syrian National Transitional Council is signaling its pro-imperialist political character.

As might be expected, mainstream media portrayal of the situation in Syria has been nothing less than an intense propaganda campaign.

Al Jazeera, reflecting the class interests of its funders, the ruling class of Qatar, has led the propaganda charge against the Syrian regime. Al Jazeera’s coverage of events in Libya has been even more pro-NATO than networks such as CNN and BBC. Qatar was the only Arab country that actually had forces and military equipment on the ground in Libya, directly contributing to the NATO intervention.

The image one gets from the business media’s coverage of Syria is one of a revolution intensifying by the day and extending deeper and deeper into all sectors of Syrian society. The Syrian state is depicted as being on the verge of collapse.

In fact, even judging by the specifics of the reports from sources supportive of the opposition, the size of demonstrations and rallies have significantly subsided. It is certainly true that the opposition is still active, particularly in certain parts of the country. It is also true that the Syrian state is going through a serious crisis. But developments of the past few months suggest that, without foreign intervention, the regime in Damascus is highly unlikely to collapse under the force of the demonstrations. From the imperialist point of view, this makes intervention all the more necessary.

Pierre Piccinin, a Belgian professor who visited Syria in July to study the developments, characterizes the Western media’s reports of Syrian demonstrations as disinformation. He wrote about his visit to Hama, the center of opposition, and about spending time among the people there. On July 15, Piccinin witnessed an opposition demonstration and even had a chance to observe it from a high-rise in the area. He estimated the crowd to be a maximum of 10,000. That same night, he received a feed from AFP reporting 500,000 demonstrators in Hama. Piccinin also reports that he was “able to roam the country at liberty,” including in “all places where the media had signaled outbursts of violence.” Piccinin continued: “I was surprised that the image of Syria, portrayed by the Western media as a country undergoing full-scale revolution, does not correspond in any way whatsoever to the reality of the situation.”

The business media’s favorite portrayal of a complex array of forces, where people display a variety of tendencies and loyalties, is a childishly simplified image of “the people vs. Assad.” This is a repeat of the propaganda tactic used in Libya, whereby the people of the world were deliberately misled into believing that Gaddafi had no popular support and that the people were uniformly behind the Benghazi rebels. This image was obviously refuted by the million-strong anti-NATO rally in Tripoli on July 1, not to mention the steadfast resistance of those fighting for Libyan sovereignty against the NATO onslaught.

While it is hard to determine the percentage of the Syrian people who support the regime, it is unquestionably true that the Assad regime has some base of popular support. Support and opposition to the regime also crosses class lines. Even the New York Times acknowledged that “Mr. Assad still enjoys support in Syria.” Asia News reported a June 15 rally of hundreds of thousands in Damascus in support of Assad’s government. On June 21, Salon.com reported that tens of thousands of people converged on Syria’s main city squares, waving flags and pictures of Bashar al-Assad.

There have even been pro-government demonstrations abroad, as in late May at an opposition meeting in Antalya, Turkey. The Turkish publication Today’s Zaman reported, “The Antalya meeting also stirred reactions from a few hundred Syrians who staged a demonstration in support of Assad with banners in front of the hotel that hosted the conference.”

To imperialism, not all states are alike

The “people vs. Assad” narrative of Syria is no more accurate than was the “people vs. Gaddafi” narrative of Libya. But in both cases, as in all cases when the imperialists have targeted a country for regime change, the narrative serves the purpose of minimizing public opposition in the imperialist countries to military intervention. “Surely, we have to do something” is the reaction elicited by the demonization campaign.

It is common to lump together uprisings in all Arab countries, characterizing all such movements as “people vs. autocrats.” But the fact is that uprisings have occurred in states with different characters: client and nationalist, of which Libya and Syria are examples. If this distinction is not enough to impress liberals in the United States, it is more than sufficient to determine imperialist strategy towards these states. The fundamental difference of the approach of the United States and its allies towards the two different types of states is obvious.

As one example, in the kingdom of Bahrain, home to the U.S. Navy’s Fifth Fleet, opposition mass demonstrations were violently suppressed, not just by the Bahraini police and army, but with the help of troops from Saudi Arabia, another U.S. client state. The U.S. government and its European allies did not call for Bahrain’s king and princes to step down, nor did they urge its leaders to respect the people’s will. They did not place Bahrain under sanctions or charge the Khalifa royal family with human rights violations.

The Bahraini opposition could much more easily have been called a pro-democracy movement, given that the royal family directly controls all aspects of government and has no democratic pretenses, especially to the oppressed majority Shi’a population of the country. Nor did Washington call for an end to Saudi meddling in Bahraini affairs. Instead, at the height of the bloodbath, imperialist leaders called on both sides to “exercise restraint”—the two sides being the unarmed demonstrators and the military shooting at them.

When mass protests break out in client states, the Western approach is to support the repressive regime as long as safely possible, and when change becomes inevitable to sacrifice the client leaders while attempting to save the system. In contrast, imperialists greet mass protests in independent states by immediately calling for the leaders to step down, imposing sanctions and making threats of military invasion, a threat that all too often is carried out.

The stakes are high in Syria. Syria is not only one of few independent states in the region. It is also one of the few supporters of Palestinian resistance and of Lebanon’s Hezbollah. Syria is an ally of the Iranian government. The United States and Israel would like nothing more than the toppling of the Syrian regime and replacing it with a client, a Libya 2.0.

The conflict is a complex one that does not offer the simple choice of progressive versus reactionary. But it is necessary for progressives and revolutionaries in the United States to have a comprehensive understanding of the dynamic and evolving lineup of forces in Syria.

Our task, first and foremost, is to oppose imperialist-imposed sanctions and military intervention in Syria. A U.S./NATO intervention will not result in gains for the Syrian people, or for the people of the region struggling for independence against the United States and its regional watchdog, Israel.

The future of Syria must be determined by Syrians and Syrians only. U.S./NATO hands off Syria!

http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/are-usnato-powers-aiming.html

Where are the descendant of Faris Alkhouri?
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????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??? ??????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ?????

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/09/13/syrian-opposition-figures-form-new-party.html

Syrian opposition figures form new party
News | 13.09.2011 | 19:01

Four Syrian opposition figures announced Tuesday the formation of a new party, the first since the endorsement of the multi-party law last month.

At a press conference held in Damascus, Louay Hussein, one of the party founders, said that the new party named “the Current for Building up the Syrian State” was initiated by dozens of Syrians, with the main objective of eliminating all obstacles impeding the country’s “transformation.”

The party would work to create a “political sphere that could enable all people to get indulged in the political life, mainly the youths,” Hussein said.

The Syrian government has actually failed in quelling the protests and submitting any program to drag the country out of violence, he said, adding that his party would seize the “rare opportunity to take the country to the stage of modernization and civilization.”

Hussein said the civil and democratic state which his party aspires to establish would preserve all the Syrian citizens’ rights and freedom regardless of their religious beliefs, political positions and cultural references.

He noted that the party would immediately start contacts with all effective parties and forces in the country to reach an agreement on ending the months-long unrest.

The founder voiced absolute rejection of foreign military intervention in the country “because this would cause bigger ordeals and would have negative impacts on the Syrian scene … Nobody has an interest in foreign intervention.”

Another founder Mona Ghanem said the delay in reaching a solution to the crisis would increase the prospects of foreign intervention in various forms, adding that the best solution is to “embark on a dialogue combining all the conflicting sides.”

NK, NZ, SGID, Tara,

Do you agree with this,

64. atassi said:

The free syrians will be settling of scores with the killers …Soon.. and Norman No Way we will allow a low life like you and other Menheiback form Allentown to rule Syria. Get lost you loser

0 1

Atassi,
By the way i forgive you, may GOD steer you to the right path.

Memo To: AKBARIO PALAZZO

RE: “…Egypt cracks down on press…”

In 5 years, I see Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and Syria (after Bashar is dead) as Islamic republics along the lines of Iran, but Sunni instead of Shi’ite.

It’s such an exciting time to be alive, is it not? So much hope, so much enthusiasm, so much creativity…

Tara
This is huge indeed, where are all the Arab ambassadors? penis-less-less

Norman…
Yes .. NO menhiback will ever rule syria..Get lost
syria is looking for the lost descendants of Faris Alkhouri?
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????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??? ??????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ?????

“54. NK said:
Norman
I can answer your question myself, but since I’m posting anonymously I think my words won’t have much weight in terms of credibility … I prefer you watch these two videos and draw your own conclusions”????????

Norman…watch this video
this shiek/imam is honest muslim

http://youtu.be/kNnlZ9edhJo

Norman

Absolutely not! I believe in forgiveness and humility. We are all equal with the same rights in new Syria. We want to celebrate diversity and embrace it. I could care less about the religion of the new president. And inner circle should be tried however reconciliation should be a priority of the new government.

Afram..
Where are the descendant of Faris Alkhouri? This man can rule anytime….
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Does anyone of you all now if syrian where also in Barcelona?

In June [was] a roundtable discussion in Barcelona which featured over a dozen young leaders of the Arab Spring, from Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Jordan, Palestine, Morocco and more. They made it clear that they need European assistance, especially financial resources and know-how. But, several said – showing the delicacy of the situation – that any support from former colonial powers risks a backlash from their populations. So Europe should avoid launching grand, ambitious, broad stroke programs that are not fully endorsed by the leading democratic forces there.

http://www.gpilondon.com/index.php?id=302

MANGO 69

THANKS A MILLION for the first GOOD piece of news of the day!

Tara,
“Absolutely not! I believe in forgiveness and humility”!!!
How about a fair justice!!
we all know nothing will move ahead without justice, syrians must have a fair closure… and NO ..We will MUST not allow the Menhiback to gain absolute power again, never again

No norman, I do not agree. I’ve said it before and il say it again: the next leader of Syria should have the WHOLE nation as a priority and not a select few.I don’t care what his religion,age,gender,sexual orientation, proffesion, colour is.
Btw I find you to be an esteemed person that actually contributes to his message board. I get red in the face every time I remember I called you a morann, for that I apologize once again.
Atassi ,
Those that have thrived in our sorrow will face our righteous wrath, but there are alawites, Christians and other minorities that have revolted. There are also Sunnis standing on our necks. Remember justice doesn’t know religion, profession, age, colour,language etc.

It is obvious that the opposition does not agree on this principle of equality between all Syrians, am i right?

Aref Kayali on Aljazeera, Opposite Direction, Faisal Kassem.

Some guy in damascus…
again..
I know that the MenHiback are alawites, Christians and Sunni too.. I don’t care what color or religion they are .. BUT we should NOT allow them to reclaim an absolute power ever. Please read my Arabic note on the Christians leader Faris Alkhouri with my comments, He was my hero and I keep looking for one like him !!

@ ESHANI

Hi eshani. Have a couple of questions and was wondering if you knew the answers. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Do you know how easily foreign refiners could convert their facilities to accomodate Syrian crude? Reason I ask is because I am trying to figure out whether exporting to other non European refiners makes economic sense for Syria in the medium and long term.

Also do you know whether the Syria government owns any oil transport vessels itself? My understanding is that the trade sanctions imposed on Damascus includes a prohibition on all maritime vessel insurance. So none of the larger low cost shipping companies could ship the oil and the cost would rise significantly using unflagged older & smaller non-insured vessels.

Watching the Grass Grow NewZ

In 5 years, I see Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and Syria (after Bashar is dead) as Islamic republics along the lines of Iran, but Sunni instead of Shi’ite.

MEMO TO: Dale “Dudu” Andersen

You have any good news?

PS – Looks like Obama’s recruiting campaign for more democrats is fairing quite well. The more poor, the more democrats voting.

http://news.yahoo.com/census-us-poverty-rate-swells-nearly-1-6-142639972.html

Here’s a good one:

Turkey PM tells Arabs: Israel has isolated itself

http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-pm-tells-arabs-israel-isolated-itself-124041051.html;_ylt=AgFgLJgdTCieSd.Q_Lv5zr5tzwcF;_ylu=X3oDMTRodjJnYzdqBGNjb2RlA2dtcHRvcDIwMHBvb2xyZXN0BG1pdANOZXdzIGZvciB5b3UEcGtnA2UyMmRiZmNmLWRhZTQtM2Q3NC04NzkwLTc4MjRkZjA0Njk1ZgRwb3MDMQRzZWMDbmV3c19mb3JfeW91BHZlcgNhYmQ3NDY0MC1kZTM1LTExZTAtYmZiZi0wOTVjZGU3MmVkNGI-;_ylg=X3oDMTJydDM5dDIzBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDOTMzNGRmOTEtODk2My0zYWU3LThhNzctYmNmMmQ4NjgwYmQ0BHBzdGNhdAN1cwRwdANzdG9yeXBhZ2UEdGVzdAM-;_ylv=3

Great response Atassi!

Dale

Are you Christian or Jew? If neither what about your parents or grand parents?

Vlad the Turk
Greece is planning to legalize drugs soon, so instead of vessels carrying crude, there will soon be some profitable business with Syria. Now that the Israelis can’t count on Mubarak anymore, they have to find new roads, otherwise the Tel Aviv youth will get desperate and start reading about politics.

norman
WRONG
Wrong ..
Hypocrites don’t rule.. ingenuous always ahead

I glad you agree Atassi. The asads, makhufs have no role in Syria 2.0 . I’m sick of them and their cult.

Stone Age, Here We Come
By Syrian Prometheus* – Opinion Piece
For Syria Comment
Sept 13, 2011
said
”
Personal credit cards of all Syrians are no longer being processed.”

“International banking institutions have already stopped accepting US dollar payments from Syrian merchants.
It seems that banks have decided that sanctions against the Syrian government imply an embargo on private citizens as well.”
”

The official reality is ( by following the link given by Joshua )

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/syria_gl10.pdf

Office of Foreign Assets Control
Executive Order 13582 of August 17,2011
Blocking Property of the Government of Syria and
Prohibiting Certain Transactions With Respect to Syria
GENERAL LICENSE NO. 10
Operation of Accounts
The operation of an account in a U.S. financial institution for an individual in Syria
other than an individual whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to Executive Order 13338 of May 11,2004, Executive Order 13399 of April 25, 2006, Executive Order 13460 of February 13,2008, Executive Order 13572 of April 29, 2011, Executive Order 13573 ofMay 18,2011, or Executive Order 13582 of August 17, 2011 (collectively, the “Orders”),
is authorized, provided that transactions processed through the account:

(a) Are of a personal nature and not for use in supporting or operating a business;

(b) Do not involve transfers directly or indirectly to Syria or for the benefit of individuals ordinarily resident in Syria unless authorized by General License No.6 (“Noncommercial, Personal Remittances Authorized”); and
(c) Are not otherwise prohibited by the Orders.

Disclaimers

The US official restrictions on Syrian national businessmen are sabotaging the Syrian economy thanks to the calls for US sanctions by the wise Opposition.

#85,

Wishful thinking, the west is drooling to hand the MBs -the new cronies of the West- not in their wildest dream, baby!

END.

Attasi

No body should gain absolute power in the new Syria. Syria should be ruled by institutions not by individuals or families. Justice should be served without revenge. Criminals should be given fair trials and Sunni, Alawi, Christians, etc..should have equal rights. Besho should not be allowed exile. He should be tried. Same for every one who ordered murders. Alawis should not be targeted. Sunnis are as implicated as Alawis in the brutality and corruption. There is no guilt by association. Alawis and other minorities who did not support the revolution but did not commit crimes should be reassured an equal status in Syria. Minorities who are about 30 to 40 percent should not be marginalized.

89. atassi said:

norman
WRONG
Wrong ..
Hypocrites don’t rule.. ingenuous always ahead

I thought that the people should say whom they want, not you,

NZ ,
by the way the only thing that Attassi knows about me is that i am Christian, i have nothing to do with Baath party, never a member, i like the ideas and the principles of the Baath party and i was never in government in Syria or knows anybody in that government.

Draw your own conclusion about the racist Atassi,

He is probably jealous because i am from Hama and we always beat them, the Homsies.

Tara for president ,
I love what you wrote.

Tara
We have the same opinion, We are on the same line, and I don’t understand why you are telling me the above !

@91 What you don’t know, because you spend all your time watching uninformative satellite channels like Al-Dunya, is that the regime cut its own throat a long time ago, by banning all credit card transactions on accounts in Syrian Liras. They thought that people would use those cards to get their money out of Syria.

The only credit cards that worked, after that idiotic decision, were ones on accounts with US dollars. And after the US Treasury sanctions, even those now don’t work. Bravo Baathists, once again they have shown that they are in way over their heads.

@81 You are right. We do not believe in letting out drug smugglers and car thieves to work for the security forces to kill and beat up civilians. We do not believe that Rami Makhlouf should be allowed a free hand to do what he wants with the economy. We do not believe in arming Alawite villages so the idiots can just go and kill each other by mistake, and then blame it on Salafis.

If what your Baathist “paradise” is doing is called equality, then the peasants do not understand the meaning of the word.

“He is probably jealous because i am from Hama and we always beat them, the Homsies.”

Hamwi grilled meat is the best, I’ll grant you that.

@71 Dale

An Islamic prophecy:

From Hudhayfah that the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) said:

The Prophethood will remain amongst you for as long as Allaah wills it to be. Then Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be the khilaafah upon the Prophetic methodology. And it will last for as long as Allaah wills it to last. Then Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be biting kingship, and it will remain for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be tyrannical (forceful) kingship and it will remain for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then He will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be a khilaafah upon the Prophetic methodology.

Then he (the Prophet) was silent.

To VEDAT (84),
The cost of retrofitting a light-crude refinery in order to handle heavy crude (like Syria’s) is in excess of USD 1 billion per 100,000 bbl/day refining capacity. It also takes a couple of years to convert a facility.
An easier approach is to sell to India or China who do have heavy-crude refining capabilities. The issue is whether they are willing to go against the US and Europe. It is important to remember that Venezuela also exports heavy crude. It made the decision to sell to China in order to reduce its dependence on the US. Nonetheless, you still need some retrofitting to accommodate Syrian oil which is still different from Venezuela’s.
One of Syria’s problems under the current environment is that when you have very few buyers willing to take your product, you get squeezed on price. Also, Syria does not own any shipping vessels that can move oil. And, international tank operators are not going to put up with the hassle. Even though they may do so for the right price, which reduces the Syrian gov’s receipts more.
Last, it is possible to sell the oil to middle men who may disguise the origin of the oil. Two problems arise; low, low price (a smuggler needs to make a living as well) and tankers (where are you going to find them?)
Long story short, you can move the oil. The proceeds are not remotely worth it.

EU plans ban on new investment in Syrian oil
12:30pm EDT

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/13/syria-eu-idUSB5E7K601H20110913

BRUSSELS, Sept 13 (Reuters) – European Union governments reached a preliminary agreement on Tuesday to ban European companies from making new investments in Syrian oil exploration, production and refining industries, EU diplomats said.

Pending final approval, the latest round of Europe’s economic sanctions against the government of President Bashar al-Assad could go into effect next week, they said.

“The goal is to strike the regime’s access to funds in the long term,” one EU diplomat said.

New sanctions would ban European companies from creating new joint ventures with enterprises in Syria’s energy sector, giving them loans as well as buying and extending stakes in Syrian companies, diplomats said.

Norman…
I know you very well sir, and the strange thing that you reside in the US and thrived enormously because you had a freedom and equal opportunities, became a successful professional and DON’T want to allow freedom for your own fellow Syrians…

Attasi

Sorry. No offense intended. I knew that what you meant when you talked about Faris Alkhouri. I just wanted to clarify what I meant by forgiveness and justice.

I want freedom for all Syrians, but not willing like you to kill one or many to save one,

What are you uttering sir!! Can you elaborate more on this superb idea of yours!
killing many syrians= your beloved regime is doing it..

76. atassi said:
Afram..
ely heavily upon … In each conquered land, the Jews and Christians were allowed to remain …
Where are the descendant of Faris Alkhouri? This man can rule anytime….
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atassi read this:
THE DHIMMI
JEWS AND CHRISTIANS UNDER ISLAM

Today we often hear Muslims in the Middle East charging Israel with unfairness and discrimination in regard to the administration
of Israel’s Muslim populations. At times, there may seem to be some justification for these charges. However, there is no way to
fairly assess today’s situation without looking back over the last 1,300 years. Then the present tables were turned and Muslims ruled
exclusively in the Middle East. The little-known facts of this dark and gruesome history have been well concealed and are only now
gradually being brought to light. One excellent source book has become available in English over the last few years. This epic work
was written by Bat Ye’or and is entitled, The Dhimmi (this is a term reserved for Jews and Christians under Islam). This work is not
just a volume of idle speculation, but reflects the painstaking presentation of nearly 200 documents verifying the condition of both
Christians and Jews under the rule of Islam. There are other works, of course, but in this article we will rely heavily upon this fine
and comprehensive work of Bat Ye’or.
During the first half of the seventh century AD, Islam was becoming entrenched in the desert area which we know today as Saudi
Arabia. Islam’s ugly side was quickly made apparent as the prophet turned against the Jews at the oasis of Khaybar, near Medina.
After much destruction and bloodshed, the Jews surrendered under the terms of a treaty known as the dhimma. Subsequently, all the
Jews and Christians of Arabia submitted to the Muslims under the terms of a treaty similar to the one granted at Khaybar.
It was during this early period that the concept of jihad, or holy war, began to be developed. The Muslims considered all areas
controlled by Islam as the dar al-Islam, or the “territory of Islam,” while all areas controlled by infidels were known as the dar
al-harb, or the “abode of war.” Since Muslims felt Islam was destined to control all the earth, there could be no permanent peace
made with infidels.
As Islam and its holy war burst from the confines of Arabia, many peoples were forcefully confronted with it. Islam swept across
the Holy Land, Syria, Egypt, and North Africa in its early years. Generally, polytheists were given the choice of conversion or death.
However, Jews and Christians, or “the people of the Book” as they were known to Muslims, came under special consideration. Based
upon the previous treaty at Khaybar they were called dhimmi, people who were allowed to live and even to adhere to their religions,
but all this for the benefit of Islam. They were doomed to remain second-class citizens, living, it seemed, for the sole purpose of
demonstrating to all, the superiority of Islam over conquered religions.
From this point on the dhimmi were always at the mercy of the Muslim rulers, and subject at all times to the whims of Muslim
mobs. The dhimmi status seemed to always hang in peril. In fact, in AD 640, the status of the dhimmi was revoked throughout the
whole Arabian peninsula and the remaining Jews and Christians were expelled.
Soon the dhimmi status, for what it was worth, was applied to Jews and Christians in many conquered lands of the Middle East.
The dhimmi began to be more clearly defined by Muslim law and by common practice. There were several things that came to define
the dhimmi status in Muslim lands.

ASPECTS OF THE DHIMMI STATUS

1. Oppressive taxation

In each conquered land, the Jews and Christians were allowed to remain and cultivate the land in exchange for the payment of a
tax to the local Muslim ruler. This tax was called the Kharaj. This system was designed to remind the tenants that Islam owned the
land. Their national identities and histories were blotted out and soon became virtually nonexistent. They were forbidden to possess
arms and thus became totally dependent upon the occupying Muslim power. In some areas, such as Morocco, this system became
so oppressive that the Jews of that area were virtual serfs even as late as 1913, and were, literally, the property of their Muslim
masters.
In addition to the Kharaj tax, the dhimmi were subjected to the poll tax or Jizya. This tax had to be paid in person by each subject,
and it had to be paid in a public and humiliating manner. It was common for the dhimmi to be struck on the head or on the nape of
the neck as he paid the tax to demonstrate the superiority of Islam.
The dhimmi were also victimized by higher commercial and travel taxes. In addition they were often victims of extortion and
blackmail at the hand of their own rulers. Often, greedy rulers required them to pay an avania, or protection money. This was simply
a sum of money extorted from the Jewish or Christian communities, under the threat of persecution. This practice of having to pay
for their own protection soon became the norm for dhimmi communities in Muslim lands.

2. Social and legal discrimination

Dhimmi peoples were generally excluded from holding public office; were kept from many professions and high positions; or
from being elevated, in any way, over Muslims. The most degrading jobs, such as cleaning the public latrines, fell to the dhimmi.
Yemenite Jews, until they immigrated to Israel in 1950, were still required to clean the public latrines and remove dead animals from
the city streets.
In the courtroom, the evidence of a dhimmi could never be accepted in testimony against a Muslim. Thus it was often necessary
for the dhimmi to hire Muslim “witnesses” for his court appearance. The dhimmi was not allowed to raise a hand against his Muslim
masters, even if raised in self defense. Such a thoughtless act would often result in the death penalty. In many Muslim lands, Jews
were routinely beaten and abused in the streets. They could only beg for mercy and attempt to flee their persecutors. They did not
dare defend themselves.
To further clarify their inferior status, the dhimmi were required to wear special clothing. The type of clothing varied from
country to country, but always it seemed to be designed to make Jews and Christians appear inferior and foolish. In many countries
the Jews were even required to go barefoot. They were also required to walk to the left of the Muslims. They were almost
universally forbidden to ride horses, and even when riding donkeys, they were required to dismount upon meeting a Muslim. Jews
and Christians were often confined to special quarters, and these areas were usually shut up after dark. They were not allowed to
enter certain streets of Muslim cities. This practice continued in Persia, Yemen, and North Africa until the nineteenth century. These
dhimmi ghettos were frequently the scenes of awful pogroms and persecutions by infuriated Muslim mobs. At the whim of local
rulers these pitiful quarters could be confiscated and emptied on short notice. Whether they lived inside or outside of these quarters,
the houses of dhimmi could never be taller or more elaborate than the houses of their Muslim neighbors.

3. Religious discrimination

In Muslim lands, the construction of new churches and synagogues was generally forbidden. The restoration of certain
pre-Islamic structures was permitted so long as they were not enlarged or transformed. Dhimmi places of worship were often
ransacked, burned or demolished at the whim of the Muslims. This trend has continued right up through modern times. In Saudi
Arabia, the government bulldozed the last Christian church in the kingdom in 1987. It was a unique 12th century structure found near
the Yemen border.
Liturgical forms were strictly controlled. It was generally prohibited to ring church bells, sound shofars (ram’s horns used in
Jewish ceremony), publicly display crosses, icons, banners and other religious objects. Early photos taken during the middle of the
nineteenth century confirm that even the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem had been stripped of both its cross and belfry.
In many Muslim lands, Jews and Christians had to bury their dead without mourning. Dhimmi graves had to be specially marked
lest a Muslim should accidentally pray over the grave of an infidel. The cemeteries of dhimmi were not respected since they were
considered as being from the realm of hell. Commonly they were desecrated or even destroyed completely, as occurred in Jerusalem
during Jordanian rule (1948-1967). At that time the Jordanian army used Jewish gravestones from the Mount of Olives to line their
latrines.
The dhimmi had to take great care to show respect to Muslim holy places. In North Africa, if Jews and Christians entered a
mosque it was considered a capital offense. It was not even permitted for them to look into a mosque when passing by. Any such
accusation, whether true or false, could cost the dhimmi his life. This was especially the case in all charges of blasphemy. The
dhimmi communities were religiously harassed and sometimes forced to convert. For instance, in Yemen, it was required that every
Jewish orphan child be converted to Islam.
Of course, marriage or sexual relations between dhimmi and Muslim women called for the death sentence, although Muslim men
could marry a dhimmi woman. To the Muslim, there was something about the dhimmi that was unclean and impure. This concept
affected all Muslim relations with dhimmi peoples.

THE DHIMMI CONCEPTS AND MODERN-DAY JIHAD

Muslim concepts concerning the dhimmi may seem primitive and grossly discriminatory to the modern mind. However, these
concepts are still very much alive in Muslim thinking, and are particularly evident in current ideas of jihad. The Islamic idea of world
dominion has changed very little since the days of Muhammad. Involved in the Islamic concept is the complete military, religious and
political domination of conquered peoples (which should ultimately include the whole world); Arabization of these peoples and
nations; the absolute claim to their lands; the suppression of their historical, religious, and political traditions; and the extinguishing of
their cultural and social aspirations.
It is unthinkable for Muslims that conquered peoples should rise up and throw off the yoke of Islam or that land once in the
domain of Islam should ever be lost to that domain. According to Islamic thinking, once a region has been conquered for Islam, it is
always Islamic and must be re-conquered from the infidel, regardless of the passage of time.

HOW DO THESE CONCEPTS AFFECT ISRAEL?

These territorial concepts are best illustrated by the jihad which has raged against Israel. Israel is a tiny island surrounded by a sea
of Islam. Not only was Israel once within the domain of Islam, but until the current immigration wave, over 60 percent of her
inhabitants were descendants of dhimmi, whether they were refugees from Arab countries or indigenous to the land. Israel’s declared
independence and her subsequent victories over confederated Islamic armies in 1948, 1967 and again in 1973 shook the Islamic
world to the core. Egypt’s President Nasser well expressed Islamic feeling when he said, “To the disaster of Palestine there is no
parallel in human history.”
Since jihad can be expressed in many ways, including military, economic, political, educational means, etc., it is not surprising that
the modern jihad against Israel embodies and promotes many of the age-old dhimmi concepts. The tiny nation of Israel has been
oppressed militarily since its birth by surrounding Muslim nations. There have already been five major wars in the Middle East over
this matter, and there continues to be a very active campaign of terrorism against Israel even as peace conferences are in session.
Israel is also oppressed economically. It has been estimated that the Arab economic boycott of Israel has cost the tiny nation some
$45 billion in the past forty years. This does not include an additional $24 billion lost in foreign investments. This boycott also
continues despite all the current peace processes.
Israel is considered a pariah, an outcast, in the Muslim Middle East. The presence of a sovereign Jewish people on the land is
considered a defilement and a sin. Thus, the only solution open to Islam is that the Jews must be pushed into the sea and the land
cleansed.
As in the ancient days of the dhimmi, the history and culture of Israel is denied and even eradicated whenever possible. Rich Arab
nations have exerted considerable pressure in this regard. Airline and even US State Department maps have been known to exclude
Israel entirely. Reference books have often presented slanted views. In recent months Hannan Ashwari, spokeswoman for the
Palestinians, has boldly stated for the worldwide TV audience that she is a true descendant of the first Christians, and that they were
Palestinians. This of course is lie, since her Arab people did not inhabit the land of Israel for almost six hundred years after the New
Testament era. By such statements, history is murdered and so is truth. These are just other sophisticated attempts to deny a
supposed dhimmi people their own culture and history.
Thus the jihad rages on and on, even in this modern day. But for Islam to succeed in its plan of total world domination, there must
be a people who are willing to play the part of the dhimmi. There must also be a people who have somehow allowed the love for
truth to slip from their hearts.

On the Regime and the Opposition in Syria – Nabil Fayyad

http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011/fayyad130911.html

Despite my very negative position on the regime for private and public reasons, the truth is that the regime is very strong, and neither the outside nor the inside were able to make it change its usual stances. This strength does not come from a vacuum. The regime has a broad popular base that supports it at home and abroad, whether out of conviction or opportunism. And ignoring this issue on the part of the Transitional Council is the first indication that the opposition does not know yet the true meaning of democracy. . . .

Nabil Fayyad, an expert in comparative religion and biblical criticism, is a Syrian intellectual who is an outspoken critic of the Syrian regime. He has been arrested and detained by the Syrian authorities in the past. The original Arabic note by Fayyad was first published on a Facebook page administered by Fayyad’s supporters on 29 August 2011. The English translation above was adapted from Sate Hamza’s translation published in his blog Syrian Musings on 30 August 2011. Cf. As’ad AbuKhalil, “Syrian Opposition Council” (Angry Arab News Service, 29 August 2011); Kate Seelye, “Why Can’t the Syrian Opposition Get Along?” (Foreign Policy, 1 September 2011); Aziza, “#Syria activsts have labelled next Friday as ‘Day of Rage’ against #Russia. Does this mean they are losing hope of winning w/o foreign help?”

Syrian-issued Visa, MasterCard credit cards blocked
August 29, 2011 ? 6:08 pm ?

Syrians in the UAE have been left stranded after Visa and Mastercard blocked all credit cards issued by Syrian banks.

The ban, which was put in place last week, is the result of severe US sanctions imposed on Syria in the face violence against protestors in cities across the country.

Syrian visitors to the UAE were shocked to find that their credit cards were not working at Dubai airport.

“When all the ATM machines in Dubai airport refused to process any of my credit card transaction, SMS message was automatically sent to me from MasterCard informing me that I could no longer use this card,” a visitor told Gulf News

When contacted by Gulf News, both Visa and Mastercard confirmed that Syrian-issued cards are no longer valid and all transactions have been blocked.

Another Syrian businessman said that an international bank had sent him message informing that they have closed his account.

“I am here in Dubai to process my financial transaction manually.Even the local banks in Dubai they don’t proceed any transaction to the Syria based banks,” he added. “We have (been) obliged to deal (in) cash.”

On August 18, the United States government issued an executive order prohibiting, “the exportation, re-exportation, sale, or supply, directly or indirectly, from the United States, or by a United States person, wherever located, of any services to Syria.”

The ban on using the cards is part of the recent expanded sanction which aim to put more pressure on the regime of Syrian President Bashar Al Assad and isolate the nation in the hope that an economic squeeze will force the Damascus government cease its crackdown on pro-democracy campaigners.

Meanwhile, the governor of the central bank of Syria, Adib Mayala, announced that Syria has stopped dealing with the US dollar and switched to the euro, effective August 23.

However, Mayala remarked that most businesses continue to conduct business using the dollar.

Action taken

MasterCard told Gulf News that it began blocking all transactions originating in Syria on 20 August 2011 and would remain blocked until further notice.

“MasterCard Worldwide, in response to an executive order from the United States Treasury Department, has instituted a block of all transactions originating in Syria and has instituted a block of all MasterCard transactions on accounts issued in Syria”, said Shaun Rashid, area head, North Africa and Levant, MasterCard Worldwide.

Visa has also suspended its payment card activity in Syria under the recently expanded US sanctions.

“Visa is required by law to comply with the US Department of the Treasury financial sanctions against Syria,” the company said.

“As a result, Visa has suspended its payment card activity in Syria under the recently expanded sanctions. Visa cardholders should contact their issuing financial institution for further information regarding the use of their payment cards. Visa will continue to cooperate with the appropriate government officials to comply with applicable sanctions.”

http://www.yalibnan.com/2011/08/29/syrian-issued-visa-mastercard-credit-cards-blocked/

Disclaimer

The US issued credit cards are blocked whatever the currency used for the transaction hanks to the calls for US sanctions by the wise “Syrian” Opposition.

Afram

It’s the significance of the story not the details in it..

Norman

“I want freedom for all Syrians, but not willing like you to kill one or many to save one”

I’m not sure I understood that sentence. Did the demonstrators who first come out in Dar’a kill anyone? What about your home town of Hama? Do you subscribe to the regime’s line that it was taken over by armed gangs who burned down every single state institution, even though every reporter who had secretly been there, and the US Ambassador, all clearly stated that no such gangs or burning of police stations ever happened.

“Does this mean they are losing hope of winning w/o foreign help?””

Yet another nawari interpretation of events. If Besho is so popular, let the army stand down for one day. But he doesn’t dare, it would be the end of him. Crushing peaceful demonstrations with tanks is as much a sign of strength, as funding an opulent lifestyle through massive borrowing is a sign of wealth. Only a nawari would call beating up a cartoonist “strength”. It’s a Qurdaha mentality that is outdated in this modern world.

So, where is the desperate Jamal these days? Hitting on the butt ugly Persian women on Shiachat? LOL!

Who you calling a Dhimmi?

Afram,

Jews are no longer Dhimmis. I know that may piss off a few people.

But the REAL dhimmis are the Arabs living under Arab despots. No?

How many billions have Gad-fly, Besho, Arafat and the other Monarchs stolen from the Arab people?

***NUFF SAID***

46.2 million Americans Living in Poverty – Sep 13, 2011 12:56 PM

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-13/poverty-in-u-s-climbed-to-17-year-high-in-2010-as-household-income-fell.html

The U.S. poverty rate rose to the highest level in almost two decades and household income fell in 2010, underscoring the lingering impact of the worst economic slump in seven decades.

*** NUFF SAID ***

Guys/Gals

Take my advise. Ignore Afram. Let him talk to himself and/ or to his significant other. He will get bored eventually. Any time you respond to him, you feeding into his hatred. He is not looking for an exchange. He is looking to spread hatred and intolerance.

I did not follow Norman’s threads, I think Syrians in general got used to over 40 years of lies, oppression…treason.

All Syrians, excluding the assads and relatives, will like to see themselves free from tyranny…….I have no doubt. Syrians like certainty in ever changing times. It is unrealistic at this moment.

But Norman, how can we not support these people, our people, in their struggle to end nepotism, corruption…

You ask about the future president, let us get rid of this regime, assad’s and then, as they say, when the boy arrives we will praise the prophet.

The coward I am, will always be, however I cannot stay neutral, my neutrality might cost another life. I will not. We must take a stance. The least I can do, is not to become a culprit.

An Islamic regime like the one in Iran will not materialize. In one Muslim family in Syria, you see the most conservative to the atheists. Many Christians think that the president must be Sunni.

I am not sure how old you are, my mother is a supporter of this mafia, not because she believes them, no, because of the unknown.

These young men have shown bravery beyond believe. They are not asking us to join them, they want our support, or our silence.

But to give excuses to the killing machinery of a thuggish family is not only, unacceptable, it is criminal.

I am optimistic for the future, saddened every time I hear the passing of another young Syrian or non Syrian fighting for freedom, selflessly, for all. I bow with respect to the most honourable, to the brave, my heart goes out to their families. We will not forget them.

Take care.

There is a video on Aljazeera showing members of Syrian Army shooting several donkeys and horses, what did these animals do to be killed?
This is the army that someone on SC (the oscillator) said it is patriotic army

Wazup Syrians?

did anyone come across Jamal?

Is he somewhere resting and chewing the cud or it’s jusy his day off from the Mukhabarat division 225?

Another burned card of Menhebaks, I’m sure he’ll come back again using different alias, maybe more sexy name than Jamal.

http://youtu.be/1eLXtJGDWmQ

These donkeys were terrorists

113. majedkhaldoon said:

There is a video on Aljazeera showing members of Syrian Army shooting several donkeys and horses, what did these animals do to be killed?
This is the army that someone on SC (the oscillator) said it is patriotic army

@ AFRAM

Go get yourself busy with “Debate – For Dummies”

But first of all you need prostrate at least 100 times on Betho’s portrait and when you done before lifting up your head do another 200 times on khamenei‘s one eh

If you get nowhere you always can tweet Jamal for some help eh

and btw stay “fearless” hehehehehe lol

Ann #110
The poor person in USA get over $500 from the state in addition to medicaid,this is more than three times what an average employee in Syria makes,at this standard over 90% of Syrian are poor.

Norman

No there is nothing in Islam that prohibits a non Muslim from becoming president, there are verses in the Qur’an though that prohibits Muslims from following those who hate Muslims and conspire against them and Islam. Naturally Islamophobes and radical whack job “Islamists” take those verses and twist their meaning to serve their ideologies/agendas. It’s really a topic that can take pages to discuss and this isn’t the place to do it.

What surprises me Norman is that you and other regime apologists (although to a different degree and for different reasons) still support Bashar even after he went on National TV and defended article 3 of the Syrian constitution and affirmed that any new constitution will not touch the basic principle that the President of Syria must be a Muslim and Islamic Sharia shall remain the main source of legislation.

As for hateful comments we read on SC every now and then, of course I don’t support them, just because I choose to ignore most of them doesn’t mean that I do … the way I see it, those comments are like a hot pile of dung, they’re best left alone as there are far more important stuff to discuss/talk about other than blind religious hatred. 10-20 Syrians are dying every single day Norman, and that’s on a good day, last night another of my class mates got arrested in Aleppo University hospital bringing the number of detained friends to 17, believe it or not we have more pressing matters than worrying about what somebody in London says he will do to Qurdaha when this regime falls, especially when this somebody isn’t even Syrian!.

As for your other question, yes I’m from a prominent Sunni family in Aleppo.

You will find many examples where sanctions are hurting average Syrians and not the regime.
http://www.aksalser.com/?page=view_articles&id=fa96a9db67ba74f7d9b010f7d0625d17&ar=814174103
sanctions are ineffective in forcing a regime change,they only manage to punish Syrians for the actions of their government.those who think that the west care about the welfare of the average Syrian are in Western Wonderland where everything is innocent and pretty.

NZ said,

(( I am not sure how old you are, my mother is a supporter of this mafia, not because she believes them, no, because of the unknown.))

I am like your mother, the unknown and knowing that there are people like Atassi are making us weary, the regime as we know it gone , no body wanted it in the first place but we see no plan, set a plan and the System that the opposition want to Syria 2.0

The questions i put forward are meant to have some kind of policy statements and blocks to stop the fear that many have and are siding with government for fear of chaos and being treated as second class citizens, assure your enemy or will fight to the last Syrian.

I’m in total disagreement with Obama’s foreign policies, he lacks the guts to speak loud and take tough stands especially when it comes to the Palestinian case and the Israeli occupation (c’mon Menhebaks start defending Israel now). However, I have to admit that appointing “Robert Ford” was good as gold.

RF is a pragmatic man who runs according to a plan (in contrary to Betho for sure) and marvellously manages to stay rational rather emotional.

Even donkeys are not spared.

True and khaled Tlass

Who are the Christian Lebanese who support HA?

Smugglers know the price of these donkeys! Ask smugglers of boundary villages how many there is everyone!

http://youtu.be/1eLXtJGDWmQ

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/09/13/they_shoot_donkeys_dont_they

They shoot donkeys, don’t they?
Posted By Blake Hounshell Tuesday, September 13, 2011 – 4:46 PM

Over the last six months, I’ve watched countless gory videos of Arab protesters who have been beaten to death, shot in the head, run over with tanks, or otherwise brutalized by their own governments. And yet, for reasons that I can’t quite fathom, few scenes have disturbed me as much as this scene, said to be of Syrian soldiers gunning down a group of donkeys in cold blood:

Syrians on Twitter tell me that the reason for this seemingly senseless slaughter is to punish villagers for support the protest movement by taking away their means of survival. If so, it’s a particularly nasty form of collective punishment — gunning down a bunch of innocent, helpless animals.

The Syrian revolution has been going through a rough patch lately, with little fresh movement to isolate Bashar al-Assad’s regime and what look to be smaller protests inside the country. The exiled opposition can’t seem to get its act together and organize a united front, while activists inside the country are calling desperately for international protection of some kind as dozens of them continue to be killed, injured, or rounded up each day.

It would be bitterly ironic if it took the murder of a few donkeys to summon the global sense of outrage that greeted Bashar’s Ramadan crackdown. But then again, the world works in strange ways sometimes.

http://youtu.be/1eLXtJGDWmQ
Can the regime supporters comment on video shown by Ann in 115

The army shooting donkeys,,,,,,now Bashar must be scared to stand next to the soldiers.

@ 119. Abughassan

http://www.aksalser.com/ !!!! this website lacks credibility, it’s totally funded by the horn Mafioso Iyad Ghazal (Betho’s man in Homs)

more info @ Iyad Ghazal

Name: Muhammad Iyad Ghazal
Place of Birth: Aleppo
Family: His father Zuhayr Ghazal, held a high position in the office of the late president Hafez al-Assad. (yil3an ro7ak ya hafiz)
Contacts: Abd-al-Aziz Thalja; Abd-al-Ghafur Sabuni; Bashar al-Assad;
Education: Mechanical engineering, university of Aleppo
Politics: Baath

Job
• 2005 Governor of Homs, Syria
• 1999-2005 General Director of Syrian Railways, government owned organization
• Director of the republican palace in Aleppo
• Municipality of Aleppo
• Military housing institution
Ghazal is reportedly very close to president Bashar and functions as one of his unofficial advisors in economic and political matters

For more info in Arabic
http://souria.com/club/forums/699244/ShowPost.aspx

Apparantly Shaaban has been making silly comments in Russia (She should sack her advisor):

From AJE blog ‘Diary of a besieged Syrian town’:

– “We want things in Syria to develop the way they did in Russia, in a
bloodless manner”- Shabaan.

Another commen in reply to the above:

– you should have listened her when she spoke about the opposition:”just few guys. We don’t have any contact with them because we don’t know them”. And with a gimmick she added “they do what they want”-

So Syrians. Do you fancy the Russian model? The transition from USSR to Russia with current regime still in place?

I will try finding a source.

Norman, I am not a policy maker, you can tell. When there is a will there is a way. These brave protesters are unstoppable, the opposition is learning, they do not need to be unified. We are all learning to accept the other opinion.

We got so used to one dictator, one way, his way or imprisonment and torture or death.

We will exchange more ideas. Take care. Have to go.

The donkeys video is the most disturbing I saw so far. A banality of evil. So sad.
.

@ Tara

First of all no one supports Hizbuallah as Wikileaks exposed all them.

Now back to reality and to the game of scratching backs, fundamentally when you mention Christians in Lebanon you’re mainly refereeing to Maronite church as according to Al-Taef agreement (city in Saudi) the Lebanese president should be a Maronite. The bottom line is that every Maronite leader hopes to be the president and that’s why their loyalty varies between Sunni and Shia and use them as proxy in order to reach to the first chair.

The main three Maronite figures who suck up for HA and Betho and might harvest the presidency are

– Michel Naim Aoun, who signed an agreement with HA in which he’s guaranteed to be the president while he must cover HA’ back in the Christian street

– Michel Samaha, Hafiz’s man in Lebanon

– Suleiman Tony Franjieh and grandson of the former Lebanese President Suleiman Frangieh from Zgharta-Zawyie and he’s Betho’s best friend

http://www.sana.sy/eng/22/2011/09/13/368986.htm

Dr Shaaban in Moscow 13/09/11.

“We are on the threshold of the centennial anniversary of Sykes-Picot colonial treaty and Balfour Declaration. We notice that old colonial countries are seeking to practice their habitual policies and dividing what is has already been divided,” Shaaban said.

“assure your enemy or will fight to the last Syrian.”

Rubbish. The “silent majority” of today will stay silent no matter what. They are a “live another day” kind of people, they will make accommodations with whatever bloc or movement happens to be in power.

As a political force for change, they are not and will never be a force. Just like they have accommodated themselves to the existence of this murderous junta of Qurdaha peasants, they will just as easily accommodate themselves with whatever takes it place, even if it is a neo-Nazi Hitler resurrection party.

Hey menhebaks, is it true that your trumpets are now claiming that Al-Jazeera is shooting protest videos in Qatar, in mock ups of Syrian cities? ROFL!!!!!!! Please, go online and repeat that idea as much as you can.

Brutality against animals is a reliable sign of mental illness,however,I do not come to SC to see videos of donkeys getting killed or to read posts by Israelis denouncing “violence” against donkeys when Israel killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians over the years, I am more focused on the violence against Syrians and seeing an end to the Assad rule and the blood shed.

Norman..
I am not going to appease you just because you are Christian, You are an adult and well educated Syrian and you will eventfully get over your minority complex condition since you are a real patriotic, I am willing to debate you and chat with you off-line anytime,
Salmat

In Syria, U.S. ambassador drops diplomatic niceties

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44508953/ns/us_news/#

WASHINGTON — U.S. ambassadors are usually the most measured of professionals, weighing each word in a delicate dialogue to advance America’s interests with a minimum of public fuss.

But Robert Ford, the U.S. ambassador to Syria, is taking an undiplomatic tack — flouting government travel restrictions, courting opposition figures and taking to Facebook to publicly denounce Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s brutal crackdown on unarmed protesters.

“An ambassador is a very visible symbol of American interest, and I’m a very visible symbol of the American people, so you can’t just hide behind closed doors,” Ford told Reuters in a telephone interview. “I do have a job to do and it is important that we be seen doing that job both by the Syrians and by the American people.”

One of the State Department’s top Arabists, Ford arrived in Damascus in January with a very different brief.

As the first U.S. ambassador to Syria in five years, he was expected to implement a policy of gradual rapprochement in hopes of prizing the Assad government away from its alliance with Iran, Hezbollah and other Islamist groups and facilitating cooperation on new peace moves with Israel.

This was part of President Barack Obama’s outreach to traditional adversaries, including Iran, but ran into criticism in the U.S. Congress where there is deep suspicion of Damascus and its support for Hezbollah, a sworn foe of Israel.

The Obama administration sent Ford to Damascus last year in a “recess appointment,” a temporary move because the U.S. Senate would not confirm Ford’s appointment.

The soft-spoken envoy proceeded to radically redesign his mission to become one of the most outspoken critics of Assad now operating in Damascus.

This appears to have helped him in the Senate, where the Foreign Relations Committee voted on Tuesday to confirm him as ambassador. He must still be approved by the full Senate.

“This is not your typical diplomatic engagement,” said Andrew Tabler, a Syria expert at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “It really turns engagement on its head and mixes things up on the ground in Syria.”

FACEBOOK AND FURY

Ford made his first public move in July, when he traveled from Damascus to the restive city of Hama to show support for protesters some 14 weeks into the wave of bloody anti-Assad demonstrations sweeping the country.

In Hama — scene of a 1982 massacre which symbolized the ruthless rule of Bashar al-Assad’s father Hafez — Ford was welcomed with flowers and olive branches, visited injured protesters and talked to local residents.

The trip infuriated the Syrian government, which accused him of inciting unrest. Three days later, after Ford posted a note on Facebook explaining the trip, pro-Assad loyalists attacked the U.S. embassy compound in Damascus.

The Obama administration toughened its position in August, saying Assad should step down and imposing sanctions on the petroleum industry, a major government money-earner.

Ford made a trip to another restive Syrian city last month, ignoring government requirements that he give prior notice of his travel.

A career U.S. diplomat, Ford was U.S. ambassador to Algeria from 2006-2008 and also served in Bahrain, Egypt and Iraq. A fluent Arabic speaker, he has not shied away from using firm language to set out the U.S. position.

On the embassy’s Facebook page, he has rejected assertions that Washington is aiding “terrorists,” declared that Assad’s government is incapable of real reform and replied to comments from Syrians, which he says mischaracterize U.S. positions.

“Mujtaba Xr warns me that I will face being killed if I continue my criticism of the repression in Syria,” Ford said on Facebook, referring to one posted comment. “I take his post to be a perfectly good example of the kind of intolerance that has provoked such discontent in Syria.”

U.S. officials described Ford’s Facebook push as an effort to put a human face on U.S. opposition to the repression.

“In Arab culture the idea of a personal relationship, even if it’s only on Facebook, matters a little more,” said one senior U.S. official.

ON THE ROPES

While, there have been suggestions that Ford may be withdrawn from Syria, State Department officials reject that and say he remains in contact with senior Syrian officials though they concede privately that communication has suffered.

Last month, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Syria’s foreign minister, Walid al-Moualem.

Diplomatic analysts say Ford’s public diplomacy may yet prod Syria to expel him and push Damascus and Washington to a new level of estrangement. That would be the opposite of what Ford hoped to achieve when he arrived in Damascus.

“I interpret from the fact that he’s still there that it is not something that they choose to make into a capital offense. But it could happen at any time,” said Richard Murphy, a former U.S. ambassador to Syria now at the Middle East Institute.

The United States, meanwhile, will shift its focus to what comes after Assad — making Ford even more important as Washington seeks a grass-roots view of the changes under way.

“What the United States can do is influence a political transition toward meaningful reforms with the hope extremists will not hijack the process,” said Edward Djerejian, ambassador to Syria from 1989-91. “The American ambassador would be carrying out American foreign policy interests in the country trying to ensure that this happens.”

true,thanks for the info,however,I would have preferred a confirmation or a denial that what was published in it was true or not.I collect info from all types of sites,most are not exactly neutral,but I still look.

Voice of America wants to give voice to Syrians
09/13/2011 by syriancommando

I have answered a call by the Voice of America for “pro Assad view”, which was completely flooded by the Muslim Brotherhood trying to rewrite the history of their bloody insurrection in the 80s and their current bloody terrorism. I sidestepped them and directly hit at the critical issue: the voice of America will never give me a voice.

Read more:

http://syriancommando.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/voice-of-america-wants-to-give-voice-to-syrians/

135. abughassan said:

Brutality against animals is a reliable sign of mental illness,however,I do not come to SC to see videos of donkeys getting killed.

They were not aiming at the donkeys but at the means of survival of the population.
I have a sad feeling that this video is going to upset more people than the sight of Syrians lying in their blood.

“,I do not come to SC to see videos of donkeys getting killed ”

Yeah well, when I came to SC I didn’t expect to see the army of my country killing donkeys either, but there you go. What kind of a “soldier” demeans himself so much that he follows instructions to kill farm animals? Do they give medals for such heroic acts? Donkey Killer, Athad Class? Donkey Liquidation Division? Do the mukhabarat now open files on the country’s cattle, and select those they deem disloyal for elimination?

Norman,

As far as I am concerned, you are a good human being but very misguided.

You want Syria to be great but at the same time you think Master Bashar and the Baath are the best to ever happen to Syria.

You are a doctor but have not condemned the torture and killing of doctors and pharmacists who helped the injured. You, just like these doctors, have sworn to help the injured even if they are enemy combatant but can’t bring yourself to condemn the atrocities committed by the Syrian Security forces. Why?

You have defended the baath all these years and no I (a very secular person) will not vote for anyone who shares your values.

When Hama was invaded you justified that and called there must be a reason. How dare you?

Six months ago, you said wait few weeks and we will see how master basher will change the country for the better. We have over 3000 dead and many more injured and thousands arrested. For what? For speaking their mind.

I believe attasi taking about people who are still defending this gang and their thugs. People like you. I do not need you to come out against these thugs but at least stop defending them. You are afraid of the unknown? Well the known is extremely scary, ugly, criminal, and hateful. How much worse can it get?

The Syrians (all Syrians) are sic and tired of these people and we are committed to provide a different society and culture to our grand kids. We will not allow another gang to take over.

Again, as I told you before, you live in the states and that speaks volume about what you really think of the criminals you defending in Damascus.

Prominent Alawite clerics denounce Assad regime’s ‘atrocities’

Monday, 12 September 2011
The clerics said the Assad regime is pursuing a policy of divide and conquer by spreading false reports of sectarian strife between the Shiite Alawites and the Sunnis. (Photo by Reuters)
The clerics said the Assad regime is pursuing a policy of divide and conquer by spreading false reports of sectarian strife between the Shiite Alawites and the Sunnis. (Photo by Reuters)
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By Al Arabiya
Dubai

Three prominent Syrian clerics of the Alawite sect, to which President Bashar al-Assad belongs, have denounced the “atrocities” committed by the regime against pro-democracy protesters.

“We declare our innocence from these atrocities carried out by Bashar al-Assad and his aides who belong to all religious sects,” Mohib Nisafi, Yassin Hussein and Mussa Mansour said in a joint statement from Homs.

The clerics denied state media reports that members of the Shiite Alawite sect are being subjected to acts of killing and kidnapping in Homs.

“The daily reports of kidnappings, killings and harassment of members of the Alawite sect are all untrue. They are designed and spread to cause divisions among people united against the regime.”

The clerics said the Assad regime is pursuing a policy of divide and conquer by spreading false reports of sectarian strife between the Shiite Alawites and the Sunnis.

“The children of Homs, Sunnis, Alawite and Christians, have lived and will continue to live in coexistence and harmony.”

“Six months have passed in this revolution and people have been killed or wounded. The climate is ripe for victory. There is no other way left to save the self except by joining the peaceful demonstrations.” The clerics said.

“This regime and its president will not rule you forever.”

Atassi,

If you know who i am and have my E mail then contact me if you want.

Ziad soury,

I will answer you later tonight , GOD willing .

Does Syrian Cocko do anything besides whining how the media doesn’t like Besho’s murderous rampage? Why doesn’t he just sue them, like he threatened to sue half this forum LOL!

Dear Annie

” I have a sad feeling that this video is going to upset more people than the sight of Syrians lying in their blood.”

I have the same sad feeling. Can you elaborate more? Why do you think people would get more upset with the sight of those thugs killing donkeys as opposed to killing Syrians?

Aboud

“Donkey Killer, Athad Class? Donkey Liquidation Division? Do the mukhabarat now open files on the country’s cattle, and select those they deem disloyal for elimination?”

Aboud, our tale is getting all the elements, Buthina shaaban, the wicked witch of Athadstan, the reign of slaves, the cattle file eliminating disloyal donkeys, few more themes and we can publish the story.

Aboud, all

An Egyptian friend sent me this..

http://s1142.photobucket.com/albums/n613/ziadsoury/?action=view&current=cows.jpg

Atassi @ 64
You had no right to speak on our behalf promising revenge and score settling. If you have scores to settle, then I hope that in Free Syria, you would be able to file a complaint and bolster it with evidence, and pursue Justice through a fair system.

We are not about settling scores. We are about justice, and I dare you or anyone else to find incriminating evidence against Norman. If there is anything Free Syria should do is to attract people like Norman to come back at least for visits and to contribute in their own way. I have been blogging with Norman for few years now, we don’t exactly see things the same way, but he is no beneficiary or hypocrite.

OTW,

Thank you,

Haha Ziad, La Vache Qui Rit will never be the same 🙂

Tara, if some movie writer wrote in an antagonist like Besho, he’d be accused of having created an “over-the-top” evil villain. I mean, for God’s sake, cutting out people’s throats? Imprisoning human right activist grandmothers and grandfathers? Killing cattle? What the hell is the matter with these people? Sick, him and his supporters.

OTW

“and I dare you or anyone else to find incriminating evidence against Norman”

He refuses to acknowledge the natural superiority of the Homsi above all others

>_<

ABOUD
He refuses to acknowledge the natural superiority of the Homsi above all others

Take it to courts, and pray that the Judge is not a 7alabi.

OTW

LOL! Yeah, might be very hard to make my case to him 🙂

ABOUD

I like smart people, and you are one of my favorites.

Syrian security beating and abusing a kid while asking him “you want freedom?” and “who is your God?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG9G-nzqNYc

the barbaric Syrian forces, even stoop so low as to kill helpless farm animals and donkeys

NEWFOLDER
One common factor to mass murderers is cruelty to animals. But there is also a factor one should not ignore. All servants of tyrannies and mafia syndicates also thrive on symbolism. I have not watched the tape, but i think a psychoanalyst such as Dr. Nashed would be able to tell what symbolism lies behind this cruelty.

BTW, any news on her kidnapping by air force security thugs.

@ 155. Newfolder

Those animals asking him “who is your God?” and he replies by spitting on their God betho

What a brave kid, I’m going speechless in his presence, I kneel for his gallantry

This is the generation that will put Betho and his thugs down the toilet, piss on them and flush it for good

Yes and all the times yil3an ro7ak ya Hafiz

“Yes and all the times yil3an ro7ak ya Hafiz”

I’ll second that.

Huriya, lil abad, ghasbil 3anak ya Athad!

newfolder,

The video has been removed.

Dear N.Z.

Since you brought up Aref Kayali on Aljazeera earlier today. I must say I’m very disappointed for I know we (the opposition) can do much better than this guy, I would have made that Lebanese shabeeh feel sorry for agreeing to appear on that program to spread regime propaganda the way he did, and that’s a feeling I share with pretty much all the young activists I talked to in the last few hours. Sadly instead of presenting facts to counter the propaganda Mr. Aref resorted to making empty statements and accusations that only made him look that much weaker. I wonder what was going through Mr. Kassem’s mind when he chose this guy to represent the opposition !
On the other hand, why have a Lebanese presenting the regime’s point of view ? couldn’t they find a single Syrian with a dead conscience to go on Air and defend the murderous regime ?

N.K

“couldn’t they find a single Syrian with a dead conscience to go on Air and defend the murderous regime ?”

No. To the regime, Al-Jazeera is the evil of all evils, the engine behind an insidious plot to remove His Excellency, President Giraffe Neck, enemy to donkeys everywhere. Going on Al-Jazeera would be as bad as going on an Israeli channel.

So instead, they find a Lebanese to do their work for them. The guy actually claimed that Al-Jazeera had built a mock up of Syrian cities in Qatar, and was shooting fake demonstrations there.

Lebanese politics,and endless source of entertainment
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NK
According to Ammar Qurabi, just back from Russia. When Buthaina Shaaban visited, her escort consisted of 40 cars, 30 of them filled with Lebanese residents of Moscow.

The regime base of Syrians is dwindling rapidly, can you sense that here on SC? or am I wrong?. The last “Millions” pro demonstration was on the accursed birthday of Besho, and it was attended by a huge crowd of tens.

Dear #54 NK,
Thank you for the two clips. I am so happy to see some enlightened clerics in Sunni Islam. This is exactly how I feel. I want the best person for the job. I do not care what sect, ethnicity, race, religion or gender. Just please give me the best.

OTW

“The regime base of Syrians is dwindling rapidly, can you sense that here on SC? or am I wrong”

Pro regime supporters? Gosh, it’s been ages since I saw one in Homs. I’ve heard of such mythical creatures, they reside in a far away land called Lebanon.

In Lebanon, a high ranking Baathist can walk into a pharmacy and bully its owners. If one of them tried to pull the same stunt anywhere in Homs, he’d be thrown head first through a window.

Shalesh has long since hidden his perverted line of expensive cars, and none of his thugs dare show their faces outside his home. Plus, the sandbags on his balcony really must clash with his wife’s drapes 🙂

Zyadsoury
Your previous comment and criticism impress me a lot, I agree with you that when people do not change their mind,after clear facts presented to them,put these people in a category of none intelligent, they can not see beyond their nose,they are not free of their limitations,one can read and repeat and pass exam,but wisdom and intelligence is God gift,they certainly lack.

Dear #70 Norman,
Even though you did not ask me personally, but I would like to tell you that I do not know or care what you are in terms of religion or ethnicity. As long as you are Syrian and highly qualified, I will vote for you as president. I disagree with attasi.

Everybody be quiet, Aboud just made a joke:

“So, where is the desperate Jamal these days? Hitting on the butt ugly Persian women on Shiachat? LOL!”

…

Otw,the regime is not good for Syria,it never was,and it is time we move forward and work to build a new Syria that is secular and inclusive. As the regime loses more supporters,the job of changing the regime becomes easier,however,the road ahead will be filled with opportunists and junblat-like people who change alliances more often than they change shoes. One important indicator of where things are going is how anti regime and anti violence seculars are treated,if they are sidelined and surrounded,then you know that much of the talk today about unity and inclusion was a trap. I am hopeful that Syrians will manage to build a broad coalition government that reflects the diversity of Syria after Assad and Albaath dictatorship become part of Syria’s history.

Basil

Hi. You introduced yourself as an atheist with a strong Shiaa background. I have a question for you if you’re around. I am assuming you’re Iraqi. Are you open to questions?

France fails to twist China’s arm on Syria – 4 hours ago

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jkQleiqXX_-IY96fff5Iqx5BiB0A?docId=CNG.1e459e20bd0257072dac77599408e5c5.551

BEIJING — French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said he made little headway Tuesday in convincing Beijing to back a tough United Nations resolution condemning Syria’s crackdown on pro-democracy protests.

The visiting Juppe met his Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi and discussed the need for a resolution condemning the military crackdown on protesters, he told journalists.

But asked if he had the impression that China’s position had changed, Juppe said: “Not really.”

For weeks France and Britain have tried to get a UN resolution, but Moscow and Beijing, both veto-wielding members, and numerous other members of the Security Council have refused to come on board.

“I said that our relations are excellent, but this does not mean that we are in agreement on everything,” Juppe said.

The US said Monday it wanted “stronger” United Nations action on Syria and will push the Security Council for a resolution that has sanctions with “teeth.”

Russia has opposed attempts by Western governments to push through a resolution directly targeting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, whose regime has waged a deadly six-month crackdown on protesters.

Juppe also said there was only a small chance of avoiding a confrontation over Palestinian statehood at this week’s meeting of the UN General Assembly in New York.

Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas is expected to formally submit a request for United Nations membership to Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on September 20.

The bid is opposed by Israel, which calls it a unilateral move that undermines peace efforts, as well as Washington.

“There is a small chance that there will be an effort at reaching a resolution that is acceptable to a large number of nations,” Juppe said when asked about the Palestine question.

China has voiced support for Palestine statehood and its membership to the United Nations.

Syria to Maintain Oil Output in Face of EU Sanctions, IEA Says

Sep 13, 2011

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-13/syria-to-maintain-oil-output-in-face-of-eu-sanctions-iea-says.html

Syria is likely to maintain oil production and find alternative buyers after the European Union banned its member states from purchasing the Middle Eastern country’s crude, the International Energy Agency said.

“We do not believe that the sanctions currently in place will affect crude oil production volumes from Syria, which the IEA estimates at 332,000 barrels a day in August,” the group said in its monthly report released today. The ban on dealing in Syrian crude may “exacerbate already-declining mature production in the country,” the IEA said.

The EU on Sept. 2 banned imports of crude from Syria, expanding sanctions against President Bashar al-Assad’s regime for its deadly crackdown on protesters. The embargo affects Syrian exports valued at 3.16 billion euros ($4.3 billion) in 2010, according to the European Commission.

The IEA estimates that Syria exported about 157,000 barrels of oil last year and about 127,000 barrels a day in the first quarter to European members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The IEA is a consultant to the developed economy members of the OECD. About 26,000 barrels of crude a day went to non-OECD countries in the first half of this year, the IEA said, citing figures from Syria’s state oil company.

Syria will seek buyers for its oil outside of Europe, Finance Minister Mohammad Al-Jleilati said in an interview in Abu Dhabi Sept. 7. Syria consumes about 70 percent of its crude and sells the surplus on global markets, he said.

The country will sell to any buyer that makes the “best offer” for its oil and will base its decision on cost considerations like transport expenses, he said. Al-Jleilati said Syria hasn’t decided yet where to sell its crude, adding that countries including Russia, China and Malaysia were allies.

European refiners will lose about 25,000 barrels a day of Syrian light crude once the embargo comes into effect Nov. 15, the IEA said. That’s unlikely to affect operations as crude processors buy oil from alternative suppliers, the IEA said.

More sectarian violence in Iraq
http://www.alarabonline.org/index.asp?fname=%5C2011%5C09%5C09-13%5C950.htm&dismode=x&ts=13-9-2011%206:58:24
Israeli press on Syria
http://www.alquds.co.uk/index.asp?fname=today%5C13qpt956.htm&arc=data%5C2011%5C09%5C09-13%5C13qpt956.htm

OTW
I will be doing my most to go after all those killer , I will be seeking justice for all the lost syrian souls .. a fair and closure is a must.
Who are you to tell me what to say sir? I may respected Norman as a person, but I don’t have to respect his ideas..
I only stand for my own ideas and beliefs and no one is obligated to support it.

Basil, you know why the Ayatollahs wear turbans? To hide their lobotomies.

So what’s Iran anyway, a new pair of running shoes made by Apple?

Anyway, the Persian President is heading to the UN in a few days. Man I sure hope he gifts us another screw up , like his infamous “the Holocaust was a hoax” of last time.

And apparently SpANN has run out of articles, he’s back to posting the same ones over and over again.

Atassi, and not just the shabehas. Every trumpet that ever appeared on the satellite channels will be held accountable. The Russians, Chinese and other 3rd rate powers who supported and enabled the massacre of the Syrian people, will find that their support for this murderous junta will cost them dearly.

The thugs who murder and torture Syrians should remember, it might have taken a decade to track down the Serbian leaders, but in the end they ended up in the Hague. One of them spent his last days there.

Ann

Why do you post articles twice? You posted ” France failed to twist China arms on Syria” twice, the first time at about noon EST and just now. What is the reason for this behavior? I am curious! Also, why do you not respond to Daisie, your ardent supporter?

http://www.dp-news.com/en/detail.aspx?articleid=96456

“Security police also arrested overnight Ahmad al-Zu’bi, a professor of medicine at Damascus University, who has been helping set up makeshift clinics to treat demonstrators attacked by security forces; hospitals are becoming off-limits for many of the wounded because of raids on medical facilities to arrest injured protesters, rights campaigners said.”

So traitorous menhebaks, care to explain or justify the arrest of a professor of medicine, just for helping the wounded? Especially you menhebak “doctors”.

Dear Tara

How dare you accuse Ann of reading the contents of her C&P spam spree ? please stop it with the personal attacks 😉

Aboud

They “cannot justify it”. They “think the government should look into that and” they “think these thugs went far in this one. The government should bring them to justice.”

Libya: the west’s imperial agenda – Wednesday, September 14, 2011

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=67580&Cat=9

The writer, a former newspaper editor, is a researcher and peace and human-rights

activist based in Delhi

Not many people outside Col Muammar Qaddafi’s inner circle will shed tears if he is captured alive or dead by Western-backed rebel forces, which are closing in on him. Qaddafi ruled Libya for 42 years, tyrannising its people and using its oil wealth to finance various misadventures, including a terrorist attack on an airliner, and attempts to such collaboration has emerged in documents found on September 2 at the abandoned office of Libya’s former spymaster by journalists slogans like eliminating mass-destruction weapons and Al-Qaeda, or ushering in democracy.

(other paragraphs deleted. Please observe the rules and do not post same articles twice)

Atassie
I feel that I know you,how old are you?,did you spend part of your education in Damascus?
I have a friend his name start with B, I like a lot.

27 killed in Syria today Sep 13, 2011. Plus 3 died from torture . Bodies delivered to their family today.

I think that the moderator on this site is Arbood.if that is true JL has to inform every one about that.when I was banned last week Arbood posted that befor it was posted online!if Arbood is a moderator then (edited for insult)

Dear Aboud,
“So what’s Iran anyway, a new pair of running shoes made by Apple?” Hands down your best line to date. I think you should have a compilation of posts like Ehsani did.

Dear majedkhaldoon,
I did not study in Damascus, I hope one day we will meet..
thank you

Sheila,

People like you make me have hope for Syria, a republic with multi party and a system like the US GOD Willing.

Dear NK,
We should establish the “Aleppo Club” inside SC. I am sure we have more members. I am hoping that all the Halabieh on SC are on our side. With Halab being such a closed society, we might actually know each other. I think that this whole SC experience can be made into a great movie. Imagine people sitting all over the world, from all different walks of life, writing obsessively on this blog. You follow the lives of certain charecters like: Aboud, Tara, Ann, OTW, SGID etc.. then the revolution is over and somehow these people meet randomly and slowly discover that they have actually known each other for years……

52. ABOUD said:

Aboud, I am sorry for the late reply as I was away. My answers:

“Yes. And more people have been killed for insulting Besho.”

Aboud, you avoided answering this question initially as I bet it was the hardest answer you had to give. I bet your fingers were going numb, you were getting dry mouth and your knees were trembling, as this is the first time you bungled a sentence in a post.

Why should a person be killed for speaking their mind Aboud, do you not believe in free speech and all men were created equal in Syria 2.0?

To Aboud’s cheering squad, do you all agree with his answer?

You can answer by pushing the red button (if the answer is YES, I reckon there should be about 11-12). After all, Aboud in one of his posts said “Effing Jesus” or something and SNK was the only person objected. Naturally I believe in free speech and I did not care.

“What an idiotic question. The Sunni majority are out protesting to get rid of Besho and his sanitized school books. And what is the result? People like Ghaith Matar getting their throats ripped out.”

So you have been silenced by the Baath, Alawites and the Martians for the last 40 years from correcting Syria’s history curriculum and all printing presses were moth balled by the Alawites because the Sunni conservative Muslims have been demonstrating in Bab Amr and Bab Esbaa etc for that long?.

“In Syria, the Baathists and their Qurdaha goons, people stick stuck in a 1960 coastal village mentality.”

Do you define this as superiority complex or sectarianism, Aboud?

“Another idiotic question. What books existed in Syria in the 1960s were of course sanitized. Just like today’s books in the West are a big improvement over what they taught in the 1960s. We will never know what a non-Alawite regime might have made of Syria in the 40 years this thug of murderers ruled the country. But we know the disaster the Qurdaha thugs made of it.”

What will the honourable Education Minister Aboud do if he was given the opportunity?

SNK

There’s no need to think donkeys can be revolutionists, the Syrian regime and it’s band of thugs just discovered an armed donkey platoon that was terrorizing the public and after an exchange of gunfire they were able to eliminate all the terrorists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eLXtJGDWmQ

The ministry of interior will issue an advisory to all Syrian citizens not to harbor these terrorist donkeys and to cooperate with local authorities to bring them to justice …

Sheila

I would love to throw a big party in my house for everybody once Besho gets arrested so we can all meet and celebrate.

It would be awesome if Syrians elect a lady as the first legitimate president in 40 years.

One-person One-vote is the way to go

And for those who don’t know and trying to play sectarian, Syria had a Christian president in 1951 and Muslims did not mind.

@ Tara, It’s ok FREEDOM does not come for cheap

Syria today with all of those stories of arrests targeting artists,clergy ,doctors,lawyers,etc reminds me of Egypt when Sadat arrested everybody who opened his mouth. Sadat was “removed” and Egypt had a short honey moon with Mubarak,and you know the rest of the story.

Dear Tara,
I would love to attend and celebrate. We are both in the US, probably not too far from one another. I think the hard work will start after we see the back of Bashar. It will be rebuilding our beloved Syria from the ruins and the raw wounds.

@ 189. Tara, Sheila

Party!!! What party?

Fill me in When/where lol

Can i bring Jamal, i’ll tied him outside of course 🙂

we can play the game “Who want to kick Jamal” –ABOUD, got that lol

For an example on how to use up multiple paragraphs, but end up saying absolutely nothing, I refer you to #187

Now, point me to where I said that people should be killed for insulting any prophet. Go ahead, take your time.

Do you know why I didn’t feel insulted by the Danish cartoons? Because they weren’t even funny. Hell, most of them were hard to understand in the first place

And I am definitely superior to Qurdaha thugs who arrest grandmothers and grandfathers for the “crime” of helping patients, or speaking to the world’s media. The sad fact is that most of these thugs come from a specific sect and backround. So, to hell with QQQQQQQurdaha and its ilk. Have I made myself perfectly clear, Persian?

And I see that the first thing No Klue does after coming back from his ban, is to write a post that gets edited for insulting. Dude, not the cleverest move I’ve seen here.

So Menhebaks, tell me, why was professor Dr. Ahmed Al Zubi arrested? How come we don’t hear any condemnations from the menhebak doctors on this outrageous violation of medical ethics?

For Tara’s party, I suggest we make a pinata in the shape of a cowardly lion.

Dear Abughassan
You are a realist and you make a whole lot of sense most of the time, but you are also a pessimist. I know that there is a lot to be pessimistic about, however, I want to see the bright little slivers in this sea of darkness. I want to believe that we can get out of this hole and become a strong nation. Why is it that Syrians do very well outside of Syria?
May I ask you a favor?. Would you please try to write a post reflecting any positive thing that you see in Syria and its people?

37. DEAR SOME GUY IN DAMASCUS,
“ I CAN SEND TEXTS WITH THE WORD SALAT, I TRIED IT YESTERDAY.”
Thank you for your feedback.

The claimer in the video provided an instant demonstration that could not be refuted.

The problem could be technical and limited to that phone, related to the network of his service provider, or site-specific and has to do with interference technology in the claimer’s area.

Your experience and the claimer’s are not mutually exclusive.

Sheila,I actually do not share the pessimism many have about Syria. Syrians outside Syria represent a biased sample,however,we have enough man and brain power to build a new Syria as long as we isolate those militants who prefer the smell of blood over the smell of roses. The use of violence remains the hallmark of most Arab and Muslim revolutions since the assassination of ( ??????? ?????( ??
I am worried that syria may be pushed to follow the path of Iraq in the name of regime change. I would take Saddam over almaliki at any moment. This is why I criticized advocating violence and asking for foreign “help” . I yet have to see a single incident when Non Arabs played a constructive role in any crisis the Arab world has witnessed.
Some Syrians are blinded by their hate for this criminal regime and their desire for a twisted version of “justice” ,and they forgot where the beef is,that beef is a united Syria with all Syrians living in peace.
????? ?? ????? ????? ???? ??? ?????? ?????? : to advocates of an armed struggle..

Shiela,

With lack of foreign interference and the way the Libyans are fighting each other, after what happened in Iraq after the fall of Saddam and how the army was dismissed and the Baath party was banned , I see no chance for the Syrian government to give in with force, they are fighting for their lives, the best way out is for the government to announce parliamentary elections at a specific time, end of year, and give access to the media and presidential election in 2014 that president Assad will not be part of, the new government will be formed by the party that gets the majority and prepare for the presidential election .

Security should come back, as without it everybody will be intimidated,

Norman, you described what is basically, the Arab League’s plan and suggestion. It’s one Burhan Ghallioun has publicly come out in support of. It is also a plan Besho rejected out of hand.

Junior will have to be forced to accept the plan. He can retire to Tehran.

Abughassan, all I’ve heard you do is preach at the opposition. Love thy neighbor etc etc etc. Did it occur to you that if the army went back to its barracks, and people were allowed to demonstrate without getting shot at, there wouldn’t be any need or risk of an armed backlash?

I will not allow people who tortured and murdered in the name of the Athad mafia to live life as if nothing happened.

You would rob a grieved parent, sibling, child and spouse of all their dignity, to force them to forgo justice, just because you are too squeamish. I’m sorry, but you are acting like a modern day Chamberlain.

Aboud,

I have been calling for reform for a long time, I just do not want it to be by force,as people who come to power by force do not leave with elections, President Assad is wrong not to follow this plan that i put before the Arab league, he has to put the country first and securing the army to protect democratic reform, minority rights and the peaceful transfer of power,

With every regime change,many people go to prison and some are put to death. People who lost loved ones deserve to see justice served. There are too many “versions” of justice,but the only justice that satisfies fair-minded people is REAL justice where accused people have a chance to defend themselves and the accuser provides REAL evidence.
Street justice is what thugs do,and this is the kind of justice that victimizes many innocent people.???? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ????? ?? ?? ??? ??
All of you must condemn people who calls for collective punishment before you ask for justice..

Aboud, here is my question to you and your reply:

52. ABOUD said:

“In the ME, you can be killed by insulting the Messenger himself, do you agree with that Aboud?”

Yes. And more people have been killed for insulting Besho.

My question to you, do you agree killing someone for insulting the Messenger as it is expected in the ME and you replied emphatically “yes” after me asking the second time because you hoped I would give up after your insults. You have been wrecked!.

Norman,

What makes you think these self-appointed thugs are going to reform after 40+ years? Anyone taking up for the Assad regime obviously doesn’t care about Syrians.

#202 Ah I see what you meant.

The way you posed the sentence was extremely clumsy. The proper way to ask it is “Do you believe people should be killed for insulting the prophet”.

It’s like me saying “People have been arrested and tortured for calling for their freedoms, do you agree with that?”

No, I do not think that people should be killed for insulting the prophets. But I do think that menhebaks who support this regime should be forever locked away in a dank, cold place. I believe that Besho should be executed in Marji square. I believe Maher should be lead in his briefs through Dar’a, and stoned in the streets. I believe every Persian and Hizbollah thug caught on Syrian lands should be dispatched with a bullet to the head.

Now that I have explained that, if you want to keep claiming that I am for the execution of people who insult the prophets, then I really don’t give a damn 🙂

When it comes to killing people for expressing an opinion, no one today has outdone your murderous Qurdaha junta.

And by the way, good job on “wrecking” the rules of English grammar. You are the first person I’ve seen who puts a full stop after the menhebak’s favorite character; the exclamation mark.

Majed,

Thanks for the complement. However, I disagree with you. Norman is a very patriotic person and he loves Syria. If he was not, I would not have challenged him on multiple occasions. I only challenge and debate people I think worthy of my time. I have been reading this blog for many years and he always came across as one. I also believe that his heart is full of fear. That is my personal opinion.

I really do not care who the next president is. Even if someone like Norman, who is still making excuses for the thugs, get elected as a president in a free and fair elections, I am willing to call him/her Mr./Madam President.

OTW,
Yes we want people like Norman and yourself to go back and help with Syria 2.x. I want Syria to be declared as a safe haven to all expats. I want their expertise and money in the country. I also want the new government to get out of their way and let them make things happen with the help of these heroes that go out everyday.

Atasi,

I know that you are a very patriotic Syrian. Justice needs to be served and needs to be served very wisely. The people giving orders to kill and shoot should and must be brought to justice. But we need to limit that to the top echelon. We need to show them that we are much better people than them. We need to look to the future and how we can make the Syria a much better place for all Syrians and their grandchildren. Our energy must be focused on conquering the future and punishing the helpless that had no choice (in their mind).

Aboud,

Instead of bombing Kurdaha, let’s make it a safe haven for any one who wants to switch sides.

AP,

It is hard to argue that they did not make many mistakes and that they felt they are the only ones that care about Syria, that is part of our problem, not just in Syria many people think that they know best, what they need to understand that they can not be the parents that know best to the Syrian people and that these people who can see how the police is being punished for beating a passenger in the street of Philadelphia or New york will never accept to be treated as they were in Syria, Life will never be the same for Syrians, i just hope they can make the change peacefully, enough killing people and army .

Ziad

“Even if someone like Norman, who is still making excuses for the thugs, get elected as a president in a free and fair elections, I am willing to call him/her Mr./Madam President.”

Yes, that’s true. If a Baathist wins in a free and fair election, he/she will have earned the title of Mr/Mrs President. At which point I shall ram down laws that make the presidency irrelevant! Muwahahaha. Just kidding.

“Instead of bombing Kurdaha, let’s make it a safe haven for any one who wants to switch sides.”

Qurdaha is going to be the last hang out of the Baathists. It is the only town in the whole of Syria not to come out in demonstrations against this regime. Have you seen the perverted shrine they made to Hafez? People walk around it as if it’s the Kaba. LOL! “Secular”

Darryl,

I do not know why anybody will insult anybody else except to create hatred, it always amazed how stupid the people in Netherlands insulting Muslims and the prophet with these Carton that have one goal and that is to entice hatred .

NK
The MB Shabeha team in SC are so empty that 90%of their intellectual discussions today was about donkeys.I am not interested in donkeys discussions.The point I am trying to make has to be answered by JL:
How would Abood know that I am banned befor that shows on line.if Abood is his moderator he is violating privacy laws,and SC is run by jisr alshoghor laws.
I don’t think Josh will admit that because it is a liability on his part,unprofessional and most likely like I have been suspecting all along Arbood is Ammar Abdulhameed.

204. ABOUD said:

You have been wrecked Aboud period. Your insults sometime stop you from reading things properly as you even tried to get out of the mess by more insults by calling me Persian?

I read you clearly from the start, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt, it took a bit of time, but you are the biggest sectarian on this blog, calling a full blooded Syrian like me a Persian?

Now for your cheering Squad.

Aboud,

Not all Baathist are Alawat and not all Alawat are Baathist, there are Baathist from all kind of life in Syria and at least the Baath party is a religion anybody can join and anybody can quit, according to my information.

A Kurdish’s perspective on performance of Syrian opposition

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Zyadsoury
I never said that Norman is not patriotic, in fact I said he is patriotic,and I said I admire his love for Syria, please do not put words in my mouth

182. SYRIA NO KANDAHAR said:
I think that the moderator on this site is Arbood.if that is true JL has to inform every one about that.when I was banned last week Arbood posted that befor it was posted online!if Arbood is a moderator then (edited for insult)

Dear SNK we all are waiting a clarifying by Dr.Landis about this point as it is clear to some of the writers on this blog that privacy rules has been breached by MB militia on this blog……Any way I think that Dr.Landis should close the comment section and find an alternative way to send the comments.

“90%of their intellectual discussions today was about donkeys.I am not interested in donkeys discussions”

And 90% of your posts are whines about Aboud. First I’m supposed to be a Lebanese. Then a Zionist. Then a Lebanese Zionist living in NY. Now I’m supposed to be the moderator. Tell me, am I also the scary monster in your closet? Do I haunt your dreams? I think we’ve established I fill your waking hours at least LOL!

“but you are the biggest sectarian on this blog”

Bo ho, go cry to your Ayatollahs. I’ve gone on record as saying I’d boil traitorous soldiers who kill civilians in their own liquid excrement, do I seem like a person who holds back, or cares what the Persians think of me?

If I come across as someone who hates Qurdahans, it’s because those people have earned our hatred many times over. They hitched their wagon to the Besho donkey, they will end up wherever that ehmar leads them. Probably back to Tehran the way things are going 🙂

Now menhebaks, I ask you again, and I dare you people to answer. Do you justify the torture and murder of Ghaith Matar? Do you justify the imprisonment of professor Doctor Zu’bi? Do you justify and defend the imprisonment of Najati Taraya? Anyone who refuses to condemn these acts, deserves a plane ticket to Persia with their God Besho. That’s if I don’t catch them first.

And by the way what’s this crap that I knew about No Klue getting banned before he did? It said so in the part that got edited. Maybe he didn’t refresh fast enough LOL!

Majed,

I am not trying to put words into your mouth. Sorry I missunderstood you.

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Its illuminating to see the menhebak mind at work. The world condemns their murderous crackdown? It’s a conspiracy by Al-Jazeera. Countries break off diplomatic relations and impose sanctions? It’s a conspiracy by the world for forcing Besho to murder his own people. A menhebak gets banned for being totally idiotic and not watching their words? It’s a conspiracy, Aboud is the moderator LOL!

Never, not once, do the menhebaks ever admit their own mistakes for the mess they find themselves in. One of the first traits of adulthood is taking ownership of your own actions and mistakes. From what I’ve seen, every menhebak from their God Besho on downwards hasn’t quite grown up past 13.

We see it even in the Baathist foreign policy. Europe slaps sanctions? Oh gee, the regime will go sulk in a corner and forget Europe ever existed. Until such time as they need to carry out their transactions in the Euro.

By the way, at one time the menhebaks here were calling me the most censored person on the forum. Of course I wasn’t, but I’d love to hear their convulted explanation as to how I’d actually go about censoring myself LOL!

Most of the rules set up on this forum were designed to protect the hurt feelings of the menhebakites, words like scum and turd etc. The rules were implemented in response to their whining…and yet they still managed to break them and get themselves banned. Please allow me to indulge myself in a smirk.

Abood
you are running away from my very clear points,like usual.
my question is very clear:
how dis you know that i am being banned befor the fact?
This question is also for JL:asigning a hateful and biased moderator exposes people private emails to evil people is against the law.when i was banned i was following the posts very carefully,Abood knew that befor my comment was dleted and i was banned.the only explanation for that is he or someone with him are the moderator!JL you are giving our private informations to someone who enjoys boiling human beings!

Aboud “Now menhebaks, I ask you again, and I dare you people to answer. Do you justify the torture and murder of Ghaith Matar? Do you justify the imprisonment of professor Doctor Zu’bi? Do you justify and defend the imprisonment of Najati Taraya? Anyone who refuses to condemn these acts, deserves a plane ticket to Persia with their God Besho”

If you have power then everything is justified. We do not condemn these acts and go eat yourself. You have been manic and hyper for months now; demonstrating daytime, posting all night and you are just a loser. The only one thing you succeeded in is getting the supportors out of this website and making this website the facebook of the revolution second to the origional one.
I decided to stop by once in a blue moon to throw you a peice of bone because I know you must be a hungry—–.

Dear God this guy is going to go to his grave with this obsession about me being a moderator.

“how dis you know that i am being banned befor the fact?”

I “dis” not know you were banned until I saw it in the censored parts. Haven’t you ever been around when someone gets warned or banned? They get told that their text has been censored and that they are banned for a week. Hey dude, don’t blame your own incompetence on anyone but yourself.

This whole “Aboud is a moderator” is a whine meant to blame Landis for enforcing the rules, rules that were set up in response to the menhebaks’ hurt feelings, but which they still couldn’t stick to 🙂

I’m also starting to agree with prof. Landis. about shutting down this blog.

@220 And this is why an armed insurrection is completely justified at this point, and why the menhebak bases of power should be completely and utterly eliminated, and former menhebaks contained and stripped of all authority and responsibility. A bunch of murderous peasants whose loyalties lie not with Syria, but with Persia.

“Power justifies everything”, and yet they whine to the heavens when Bush and Cheney invade Iraq.

Does power justify the Israelis stealing the West Bank for their settlements? According to the menhebaks, it does. Does power justify Saddam’s occupation of Kuwait? Thank God there was someone to stand up to him and kick him out.

I’m going to keep that silly phrase, and remind the menhebaks of it 🙂

219. syria no kandahar said: “Abood knew that befor my comment was dleted and i was banned.the only explanation for that is he or someone with him are the moderator!JL you are giving our private informations to someone who enjoys boiling human beings!”

You cannot complaint SNK. JL stated that Imad Mustafa considered him part of the revolution from the first weeks and for that you cant blame him. This website is now the face and the voice of the revolution. Many great people like Jad, SAUY, diappeared.

*** TEAR DOWN THIS BLOG OF SHAME MR. GORBACHEV ***

I lost count of how many times I got denial of service attacks!

“JL stated that Imad Mustafa considered him part of the revolution from the first weeks”

Which just goes to show what a petty man, and an inept ambassador, Mustapha is. Diplomats are supposed to resolve problems, and not sulk like babies when someone voices an opinion that doesn’t suit them 100%. What kind of diplomacy is it when people who have a difference of opinion with you are considered conspirators overnight?

Same thing with Azmi Beshara. Before, he would be greeted and hailed in Damascus as a hero. Now, in their eyes he is part and parcel of the Great Plot Against Besho.

The Baathists expect the entire world to be as subservient to them as they expected the Syrian and Lebanese people to be. And then they find themselves totally at a loss when things don’t turn out that way.

Hafez used to act the same way, sulking for years anytime Jordanian or Gulf foreign policy diverted even a bit from his “vision”. Some vision, Israel annexing the Golan and him doing squat all about it.

It’s past your bed time the sun must be rising on HOMS by now lol

ABOUD

You are clearly eating yourself.
I cannot help you man.
Power justify everything esp when dealing with evil people like yourself.

“this is why an armed insurrection is completely justified”

Its a total failure so far. The goverment has the upper hand here.

“the menhebak bases of power should be completely and utterly eliminated”

Again you failed. 6 months passed and we only hear your barking. Deliver man, deliver. Just bring me one post in the last 6 moths of any success

“A bunch of murderous peasants whose loyalties lie not with Syria, but with Persia”

That is true, Syria, Iran is one hand and one heart. We are proud to be Persians and Syrians at the same time. Any problem with that. Go kill yourself

“Does power justify the Israelis stealing the West Bank for their settlements?”

Yes it does; without power Israel would have not survived the evil islamic radicals and would have finished long time ago. I am a minority and I now feel the pain of other minorities and I started to justify it.

“Does power justify Saddam’s occupation of Kuwait?” Yes it does, without power he would have not been able to occupy Kuwait, but because he had the power back then he did what he did. The west came to help Kuwait back then. The west is not going to help you Aboud, and for that Syria has all the right and means to do what is in its best interest and yes I mean the best interest of the regime.

Regime has the power, you are very weak and fragmented. Aboud I cannot help you

“The Baathists expect the entire world to be as subservient to them as they expected the Syrian and Lebanese people to be”

That is true, everything you speak tonight is true.
The Baathists has the power and they can use that power the way they want.
If the opposition has had the power, they would have thrown the regime out. The opposition wanted to borrow some power from Turkey; Erdogan said: I do not speak to Assad. LOL; they wanted to borrow some power from USA; Obama busy with the economy and not interested in a third war. etc…..the rat will not beat the cat; the rabbit will not beat the tiger; this is the law of life; the opposition will not beat the regime. Aboud; I cannot help your cause. Death is the end of your cause. You see it daily infront of your eyes.

208. NORMAN said:

“Darryl,

I do not know why anybody will insult anybody else except to create hatred, it always amazed how stupid the people in Netherlands insulting Muslims and the prophet with these Carton that have one goal and that is to entice hatred .”

Dear Norman, I am not sure if you are referring to my “Aboud nut cracking” question or not, my point in that exercise was to show that these people calling for democracy, as long as certain institutions are not touched and criticized and as long as we don’t ignore things, cannot work and the ME will continue to produce despots and dictators. Same horse different Jockey.

Norman, the Danish cartoons were not funny at all, I have seen 1 or 2 and they really did not convey any information. However, I would have expected our Muslim comrades to have shown more maturity and to simply ignore them.

And this is the heart of the issue, we do not know yet how to ignore side shows and distractions. ME politicians and people only know how to silence their opponents just like the Danish cartoon fiasco; street demonstrations which made the issue much bigger and prominent than it should have been.

Lastly, the authors of the cartoons exercised their freedom of speech guaranteed by “blood and guts” in their constitution, in their eyes they were not doing any wrong. Everyone needs to respect their right whether we agree with them or not, that is if we want democracy to flourish.

Aboud “And then they find themselves totally at a loss when things don’t turn out that way”

All things are turning out the way we want. FYI, things are not turning the way you want. Your crimincal movement had peaked months ago, months ago, its a past, history…The big days are behind us and now we are dealing with incidents here and there. Any leader, any ship so the people can jump in;or not yet. Perhaps in the near future. FRAGMENTED OPPOSITION.

These ex prisoner Shabeeha have got their revenge on their enemy.

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Mazzeh Airbase Military Prison is currently being used to detain entire families from three cities; Dar3a, Homs, and Idleb.

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“Its a total failure so far. The goverment has the upper hand here.”

Some upper hand. You are supposed to be fighting an armed insurrection, and after six months all you have to show for it is 700 “insurgents” killed for 700 soldiers? That’s a horrible ratio if it were true. The regime can’t tell us who its supposed to be fighting, who is funding them, who their leaders are. Just last week a colonel was supposedly killed in Telkelakh, an area that’s been under occupation for 3 months.

“Just bring me one post in the last 6 moths of any success”

Many, many successes, although I don’t define success the way you do, as in beating up cartoonists and imams, and cutting the throat of activists. Besho was once popular. He is now an international pariah, beholden to Iran. The regime’s stature and power in the region is at an all time low. Syrians have risen up and will never go back to how things were. Political life has been breathed back into what was a corpse. The world over, to be a Syrian revolution is to be associated with bravery and resilience. What does your regime have to show for all the killing, except that it lives on life support.

“That is true, Syria, Iran is one hand and one heart”

Rubbish. What values do Syrians share with the perverted theocracy of Iran, oh ye fake secularist. The only thing in common are that Alawites and Shias belong to the same sect. You cannot get any more sectarian than that, to put one’s sect ahead of one’s country, to murder one’s countrymen because they do not belong to the same sect as you. Shameful. And primitive. It is this kind of thinking that makes the Qurdaha gang totally unsuited for a modern, pluralistic, nation state. They would be happier to have lived in the days of tribes.

“without power Israel would have not survived the evil islamic radicals and would have finished long time ago”

Hehehe, you have just handed me the best victory I could have hoped for. I could have insulted you till kingdom come, but only you could have turned against what were supposed to be your principles and that of your party, and change yourself into something else. Tell me, do your Persian Ayatollahs share your new found love for Israel? LOL

“Regime has the power, you are very weak and fragmented”

If we are so weak and fragmented, why haven’t you been able to subdue this revolution already? The Iranians subdued theirs. The Bahrainis did so too. Qadafi would have crushed the Libyan revolution had it not been for NATO. Besho has failed to what the Bahrainis, Iranians and Qadafi almost did. The only thing sustaining him is his tanks, which is about as sustainable as living a life of luxury on credit cards hehehe 🙂

“If the opposition has had the power, they would have thrown the regime out”

Ah, but they could have easily turned this whole revolution sectarian. Every commentator has been amazed at how unsectarian this revolution has been. Even your Alawite sheikhs have refuted your lies about kidnappings and killings in Homs. All you have as proof of any sectarian intentions on the part of the revolution is what I myself admit to saying on this forum. And so far, that’s all I’ve done…talk. At least as far as you know.

“Aboud; I cannot help your cause”

You are far more helpful than you give yourself credit for; you, the other menhebaks, and your X-Box president. When you say that the Shias will be the masters forever, you help our cause. When you cheer the brutal killing of civilians, you help our cause. When Imad Mustapha sulks at Landis, he helps our cause. When Mu’allem makes a fool of himself and says he will ignore Europe, he really gets Europe on our side. And so on and son forth, a long list of screw ups that we couldn’t have dreamed that the Baathists would gift us.

Half of fighting a war is the mistakes your opponents make, and it is thanks to the numerous blunders of the Baathists that this revolution is going on strong after six months, and the regime is on Iranian life support. Thank you, we couldn’t have asked for a more inept enemy 🙂

About a month or two ago I intended to right on another forum (Shia Chat as it happens) about the parallels between the Assad family and the Godfather film but I couldnt be bothered.

As the current post refers to the Godfather I will do so. We all remember how Saddam was said to be an admirer of the Godfather films and even built his regime based on the Godfather ‘family’ structure. You can say Gaddafi and his sons had a similar setup.

Moving on to Assad. A lot of similarities between his unexpected rise to power and Micheal Corleone’s. The expected heirs Basil Assad and Sonny Corleone both meeting early ends paving the way for their younger sibling.

Just like Micheal Corleone in Godfather 2 one can see Bashar dealing with crises amid flashbacks (just as in the film) to his father and his rise to,and consolidation of power, and dealing with crises such as the 82 uprising and Hama.

As at the end of the movie, we can picture Bashar sitting alone on a bench in deep thought contemplating his and his family’s fate. A flashback to the good old times with family around the dinner table waiting for Don Hafez to arrive for his surprise birthday party.

Finally lets hope we see Bashar at the hague answering to justice just like Michael Corleone had to face the Senate Committee.

Syrian Christian activists voice concern over the negative message Syrian Church leaders are sending to their other countrymen by supporting the regime in spite of its months long violent crackdown and appalling human right abuses

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“All things are turning out the way we want”

Wow, you mean that condemnation by the Arab League, Vatican, Europe, Asia, sanctions, whole cities out of your control, a battered economy, was all part of your “plan”? Yikes, turns out Besho isn’t clueless. He’s just incompetent.

“things are not turning the way you want”

Yes, it would have been preferable if Besho had just taken himself out of the equation. But this way, we get to remove a very, very large chunk of his supporters as well. Thank goodness we won’t even have to pay lip service to the idea of forgive and forget when we kick the Qurdaha gang out of Syria.

You see, when Mubarak left, unfortunately he left a large part of his regime behind, which the Egyptians are only now learning to their cost. Syrians will get to remove this cancerous regime, all traces of it, so nothing is left, not even the perverted tomb of Hafez, for which I have some very imaginative plans.

“Your crimincal movement had peaked months ago, months ago, its a past, history…”

Um, I didn’t know I was part of a “crimincal” movement. How does one join that? Heck, how does one even start such a movement?

Again, nawari analysis, wishful thinking. You people tried everything, threw everything you had at every city…and STILL cities under occupation come out, still people have not been subdued. Your X-Box president doesn’t dare travel outside Damascus, much less the country. Any Syrian has more freedom to come and go and see the world than Besho and his family. Poor, poor Athma, I think she’ll be selling her shoe collection to pay for the bodyguards they have 🙂

“The big days are behind us and now we are dealing with incidents here and there.”

How deliciously delusional 🙂 Take a look at the number and geographical location of the protests at any day of the week. If there was nothing going on in Aleppo, why are there so many arrests there? To this day your thug army has to invade the Damascus, Homs and Hama countryside, chasing down every protest in every city and hamlet. In Homs, you people have practically given up, with your abandoned checkpoints a testament to the lack of resolve of the regime’s street thugs.

“Any leader, any ship so the people can jump in;or not yet. Perhaps in the near future”

Er…what? Sorry I think we will need an interpreter here, someone who can translate to English from menhebaksi.

“FRAGMENTED OPPOSITION.”

Uh yeah, just use caps and it’ll make it more real…not. It doesn’t matter how many parties or opinions there are, they are all united in their desire to be rid of the Qurdaha gang, to send it packing to Tehran. The Israelis, whom you now love so much, had numerous gangs and groups on the eve of the ’48 war, but they all worked towards a common purpose. Just like the opposition is doing 🙂

So Persian, I’d start to learn Farsi if I were you. But I suggest you keep your Zionist love hidden when you relocate to Tehran 🙂

Complexities of taking on the Syrian dictatorship – 14 Sep, 2011

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/opinion/editorial/general/complexities-of-taking-on-the-syrian-dictatorship/2291305.aspx?storypage=0

Given this, Tehran can be expected to remain fully committed to the Assad regime and to bail it out to the tune of billions of dollars from its growing oil revenue. Similarly, Russia and China are set to expediently continue to resist tougher sanctions, including an arms embargo, against Damascus at the UN Security Council.

The Assad regime has good reason to remain confident about its survival despite all its brutalities against its own people. Its power and authority have for long been based on exclusion and suppression. It has promised reforms, and latest figure to receive such a promise is the Head of the Arab League, Nabil al-Arabi, who visited Damascus recently. However, it is highly doubtful that it will ever find it in its interest to engage in anything more than cosmetic changes. What the opposition wants is the end of the Assad regime and therefore structural changes. This requires a favourable change in regional and international circumstances, which does not seem to be around the corner yet. The regional country that can exert possibly a determining pressure on Damascus is Turkey. While condemning the Syrian regime’s behaviour and treating Syrian refugees humanely, it is careful not to do anything which could jeopardise its good relations with Iran and reinforce an Arab perception that it seeks wider regional influence.

Daaaaaamn, seven whole pages of protests just for the 13th of September!

http://www.onsyria.com/?parent=1&page=7&sort_order=timestamp

Hehehe, so how’s the “go tanks” strategy working out for you people?

Lebanon’s Maronite Christian head sparks Syria debate – 3 hours ago

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i1mXKBCR_mnNXqAShcQRQLZ0Faww?docId=CNG.896de1096470bc0c4dc74f022ee2ddcd.6e1

BEIRUT — A heated debate has erupted in Lebanon over controversial remarks by the head of the nation’s Maronite Christians, who has warned an end to Syria’s regime threatens Christians across the Middle East.

During his first visit to France last week, Patriarch Beshara Butros Rai urged that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad — once the arch-enemy of Lebanon’s Maronites — be given a chance to implement reforms, saying the “poor man cannot work miracles”.

Assad’s regime has cracked down on a string of unprecedented protests across his country, killing more than 2,600 civilian protesters since the uprising began in March, according to the United Nations.

Many of Syria’s minority Christians, which include Maronites, are concerned that Islamic extremists could rise to power should Assad’s regime collapse.

Rai last week echoed that fear, voicing concern of a takeover by the radical Muslim Brotherhood, a movement the Syrian authorities have blacklisted for decades.

“We endured the rule of the Syrian regime. I have not forgotten that,” Rai said. “We do not stand by the regime, but we fear the transition that could follow.

“We must defend the Christian community. We too must resist.”

He later clarified his statement by telling local press he feared the fall of “regimes described as dictatorial… could lead to civil war, in which Christians would be the biggest victims”.

Lebanon’s Christians, a community that once enjoyed unparalleled political leverage, are now split on the protests rocking Syria.

Maronites allied with Shiite militant group Hezbollah, which is supported by Syria and Iran, are backing Assad and accusing the radical Sunnis of stirring the unrest.

Other Lebanese Christians, allied with pro-Western former premier Saad Hariri, have voiced support for the anti-Assad protests.

Observers are divided on the patriarch’s stance, with some lauding it as a shield for Christians and others warning it marks a grave political faux pas.

“It was a big mistake for the patriarch to go to France, which has a history of hundreds of years of support for Maronites, and say the Assad regime must be protected at a time when the Assad regime is breaking down,” said political commentator and author Elias al-Zoghbi.

But others argue Rai is doing what is necessary to ensure the survival of his dwindling community.

“The patriarch is not enamoured with the regime of Bashar al-Assad, nor is he blind to the atrocities Lebanon suffered as a result of that regime’s military presence in Lebanon for 30 years,” said analyst and columnist Jean Aziz.

“He is not defending the regime but he fears that unrest in Syria will lead to civil war, which would see the Christians of Syria and Lebanon suffer the same as those of Iraq.”

Lebanon was gripped by a deadly civil war from 1975 to 1990, which saw Syria send troops in to its smaller neighbour, where they remained for 29 years.

Ahed al-Hindi, a Washington-based Syrian activist and himself a Christian, openly rejected Rai’s explanations as serving to strike fear into the hearts of Christians.

“Syrian Christians are not threatened — they have long lived side-by-side with Muslims,” said Hindi, a participant in the meetings of Syrian dissidents in Turkey.

“This is yet another tool of fear the Assad regime has created.”

And as Syrian protesters continue to brave the guns of their ruling regime, many are hoping the path will lead to democracy, the only hope for the Christians of the Middle East.

“What we are witnessing today is a transition, which often means the voices of radicals sound loudest,” said Aziz. “It’s possible that could drown out Christian minorities.

“But ultimately, the course of history is headed towards democracy.”

I read the article posted at 238 (by the poster who just a moment ago wanted to tear down this blog hehehe). The writer’s reasons for why the regime might be able to sustain itself boils down to four factors, two of which are old and have seen been rendered obsolete, one just doesn’t make any sense, and the other was never a factor to begin with.

“The first is the sectarian nature of Syria”

Not much use to the regime when all the sects are increasingly growing weary towards its behaviour, as witnessed by the way three prominent Alawite clerics publicly came out against Besho. The writer cites it as an advantage in that it affords the regime an alliance with the Persians. It is doubtful whether the Persians have the resources to sustain two countries at the same time.

“The second is the strategic value of the Assad regime in the regional balance of power”

This point has since been rendered moot. When the Americans have come out and said that they have no interest in Besho prolonging his reign, when the Turks have come out and warned against a possible civil war in Syria, when the Arab League have called on the regime to stop the “killing machine”, then you can see that the perception is that the Baathists are a liability to regional stability, and not a safeguard of any sort.

“The third is that while most Sunni-dominated Arab states would be happy to see the back of the Assad regime and the waning of Iran’s influence, they are uncertain about its consequences. They do not want any development that could aggravate the highly confessionalised and conflict-prone political situation in Lebanon and strengthen the position of Israel as well as Turkey, which has now become a leading player in the region.”

This point really doesn’t make any sense. A removal of the Baathist regime could only have a stabilizing effect on Lebanon, and the Gulf states could ensure that a post-Besho Syria would be extremely friendly to them by playing a constructive role in making that a reality.

“The fourth is that the US and its NATO allies have repeatedly made it clear that they have neither the resources nor the necessary geo-strategic incentives to intervene in Syria similar to their Libyan military campaign.”

And the opposition has time and again said that it doesn’t want nor need a NATO style intervention. What it needs is observers to witness what is going on, sanctions to deter the regime from continuing its full scale slaughter of Syrian civilians. Already defections have proven effective in protecting some areas in central Syria, and it will only be a matter of time before there are enough to overwhelm Besho’s poorly motivated ex-drug smugglers, car thieves, and Qurdaha militiamen.

(I’m sure the parents of the soldiers killed in the alleged attack will be gratified to know this was just an “isolated incident”)

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/09/13/syria.unrest/

19 civilians killed in Syria, opposition group says
CNN
September 14, 2011

(CNN) — At least 23 people were killed Tuesday in Syria, the opposition activist group Local Coordination Committees of Syria reported. Of that number, at least 19 were civilians, the group said.

Fifteen of the deaths occurred in Hama, five during a funeral there, and one each occurred in Saraqeb, Deir Ezzor, Ghab, Homs and the suburbs of Damascus, said the LCC, a pro-democracy group that organizes and documents anti-government demonstrations.

In Homs, security forces opened fire at a checkpoint, killing one person and wounding four others, two of them critically, said the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an opposition group.

The state-run Syrian Arab News Agency reported that two Army members were killed and five soldiers were wounded when their military bus was ambushed “by an armed terrorist group” east of Homs.

The government has maintained a consistent narrative: It is going after armed terrorists. But opposition activists say the regime is behind a systematic, sustained slaughter.

Also Tuesday, a video surfaced on YouTube showing U.S. Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford attending what appears to be a wake for Ghiyath Mattar, a 26-year-old activist who was slain in the town of Daraya. In the video, Ford appears seated among a number of other foreign diplomats as a Quranic recitation is heard in Mattar’s remembrance.

At least 26 people were killed Monday in the Syrian government’s ongoing crackdown on dissidents, the LCC said.

The number of people killed in unrest in Syria since mid-March has reached at least 2,600, the U.N. Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights said Monday.

The Syrian Observatory has said more than 2,000 people — mostly demonstrators — have died since the uprising began in mid-March.

Unrest has plagued Syria for more than six months, as protesters demanding more freedom, democratic elections and an end to President Bashar al-Assad’s regime have been met by brute force.

The United States has imposed sanctions on Syria, freezing assets of specific regime members and banning Americans from doing business with the country. The European Union has banned the import of Syrian oil and imposed a travel ban.

CNN cannot independently verify the claims or the death toll because the government has repeatedly denied requests for international journalists to report inside Syria.

A historic meeting and historic declarations in support of national unity and peace and harmony amongst Syrian people.

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146. Tara said:

” Why do you think people would get more upset with the sight of those thugs killing donkeys as opposed to killing Syrians?

Why being upset ? These donkeys didn’t care about the regime, they were totally innocent; same with the murdered babies but somehow the babies had a connection with the Revolution for being in their “terrorist” parents arms.

The donkeys were the livelihood of the “terrorist” villagers. We’ll starve them, just as we set the wheat fields on fire in the North.

Why upset ? They do not claim the clip is a fake; they boast about it. They show what they are capable of. Just like Livni boasting about cast lead. They will do and already do that to Syrians. They will slaughter one million to save their blasted regime.

After exhausting all the options available to them to intimidate us and silence our voices the menhebakites just had it with this website, they want to shut it down and get it over with.

Should we expect Imad Moustapha to take a trip down to Oklahoma to kidnap prof. Landis and break his fingers while yelling “??????? ???????” ?

A group of disgruntled SANA employees chose Sooryoon.net to lodge a complaint to Jr about SANA’s festering sectarian practices!

Even its employees question SANA’s professionalism!

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Annie

“They will slaughter one million to save their blasted regime.”

What’s even more tragic is that they will willingly sacrifice one million Alawites to save their regime. Even some menhebaks have started to see it’s a big con; in the end, the people at the very top will be the last to suffer, unless specific sanctions can hurt them where it hurts.

(I’m so impressed with my awesomeness right now. It takes half a dozen menhebaks to even try to take me on, and it ends with them whining and leaving the forum)

To: 182, 214 and 224

A similar thing happened to me approximately 10 days ago. Husam answered my post before it went live. Furthermore, he cut and pasted my unedited version in his reply. I was shocked! I felt very uncomfortable! I posted a message to Dr. Landis asking for an explanation – Never heard from him. The privacy rules has been breached. No doubt! I am out too.

-I pray for the safety of all Syrians-

@247 You know when you are hosting a party, and someone comes up to say goodbye, and you realize the whole time you never noticed them there…I think you get my drift.

(*whispers* who was that guy?)

It’s past 2AM and the sun must be high in the sky of HOMS lol

Burning the midnight oil I see lol

The American ambassador at the funeral of Ghiath Matar, a finer man than every one of those Qurdahans put together

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AOpWhZV8les

@249 The struggle for freedom sometimes demands that we go without sleep a few times a week, hehehehehe.

SO WHAT?

JL
Most of us trusted your knowledge and academic status in giving you our informations.I am 100%sure that our privacy is not protected at your site,in fact I am sure that your moderator or moderators are revolutionists,and in my case it was definitely Abood who posted a response to me calling me a (banned Hehehe),befor my post was deleted.I am 100%sure that he knew that I will be banned before it happened.Abood has the filthiest mouth on this site,yet he has never been banned.He is the inventer of every insult or bad language imported to your site,yet he gets treated like your body.Kaled Tlass is another filthy mouth same as Abu Umer …they all gets covered up by your shameful biased moderators with your complet approval.This is a sad discovery because your site is being exposed as non-academic,similar to some degree to Aljazera or Alarabia.You basically knowingly support the Syrian Revolution while you try to cover and select words which makes you look like you are in the middle .I don’t think an American Academic will do this kind of stuff,but I think that you have so much Syrian blood running in you that you were able to push your consciousness button off when you assigned a wolf to watch your SC sheep

SNK and SFzipcode

You guys do realize that your comments go live the moment you hit (SUBMIT COMMENT), you get 10 minutes to make changes even though the comment is already visible to the rest of us.

I’m just curious though, what are you two worried about ? to my knowledge the Syrian security forces only arrest, torture and mutilate the bodies of those who talk badly about Bashar, you guys are golden.

@ 202
Shut down this blog.

Why, having hard time finding new articles in English that parrot’s besho’s press.

Many will try to fill the void created by the inevitable loss of this valuable blog. But no one will be as tolerant as Landis. I can assure you of that. Try playing your games on another blog and see what you get.

SNK
I am wondering if the embassy has recently sent a directive declaring SC enemy territories, or was it enough for Joshua to share with us the ambassador’s view to get the “most eloquent” me7ebbakite so riled up. Sound like we have a new line of attack on Joshua.

Banning is what your mother used to do when you use street language around the house…. as simple as that. You get grounded for a while and then you are given another chance. Joshua and his moderators have been very liniment with you for not banning your for a long long time.

NK

HAHAHAHAAH! Oh my God, did these guys think that it took 10 minutes for a post to go live? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh dear me this is too precious to pass up 🙂

But let them keep thinking that the moderator is me. Although they still haven’t answered the question as to how I could possibly censor myself, and make up and enforce rules to keep in check language I myself was using this whole time.

Doublethink at its finest. It’s this kind of muddled, confused, and illogical thinking that has gotten the Baathists and Besho into the mess they are in.

Anyone know what SpANN is whining about now?

I meant lenient not linement.

SNK and SF
Demo done, until next time.

ANN
That was not a denial of service attack

You’re incoherent! You seem to be on the verge of a nervous breakdown! Seek professional help.

NK(no knowledge)
Are you hallucinating ?who is talking about Bashar?
I am talking about violations to privacy laws here.This was known as a respected site.Having this site moderated by one of your terrorists friends is a complete collapse to any legitimacy this site has,same thing holds true if it is being moderated by Menhebak(using your premature words).Violating privacy is a serious matter,don’t Try to put Bashar in the middle of this,that is stupid.

That’s OK OTW. English isn’t your first language, to err is human, this is about ideas, not spelling 🙂

(I’m so enjoying myself right now)

But seriously, it won’t do for the menhebaks to slur and slander professor Landis like this. I’m still confused as to what No Klue meant when he said I knew he was banned before he was banned.

The only way I knew he was banned was when the moderator said so in the part he censored. Do the menhebaks believe that there is a waiting period before a post goes live? How long have you guys been posting here for?

Again, one more weary time, how could I censor myself? How could I ban the use of the words scum, turd, etc, when I’m the one who made those words so popular? First you people claim I’m the most censored person on the forum, then you whine that I’m censoring unfairly. Seriously, for once in your lives, get your stories straight.

How the human mind could hold so many contradictory thoughts at the same time and still function is beyond me.

Aboud

Actually I think it was parents like this old lady, who raised such a generation of criminals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZB44ESpRQE

so much hate …

Is it true what JAMAL said about you being that state department Jeffrey Feltman?

Revlon
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“You’re incoherent! You seem to be on the verge of a nervous breakdown! ”

No Klue, SpANN is talking to you.

🙂

“don’t Try to put Bashar in the middle of this,that is stupid”

But it is about Besho. Don’t you see how he’s taught you people to think? My God, even Syria Comment to you is a conspiracy. Accusing Landis of allowing me to moderate is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard on this forum, and that’s saying alot.

And here you are, pounding the same point again and again and again, making yourself look quite foolish. *Think*. How could I possibly censor myself? Duh.

OK professor, I stood up for you, but sometimes human stupidity being what it is, people will ignore logic, the proof of their senses and just believe what they want to believe. There’s no helping them. I think they will demand a full accounting of the moderator(s) political activities over their lifetimes.

OTW

“Do you consider Syria Comment as liberated territories”

I believe it serves an excellent purpose as a place where Syrians of all political leanings can come together and exchange views.

(ah who am I kidding, I’m about ready to plant the Homsi flag at the summit)

ABOUD
Some call that compartmentalization. Brain becomes a set of discrete compartments capable of holding contradictory notions with the same rigor of belief. Off course the 66 years old Dr. Nashed would have provided a better answer. Alas, she was kidnapped by besho’s thugs.

Are you on speed?

Do you have that special someone in your life to talk to instead of your computer?

“Is it true what JAMAL said about you being that state department Jeffrey Feltman?”

Hehe, even the menhebaks have taken to calling him Jamal.

And yes, you got me, I am indeed Jeffrey Feltman. The US Assistant Sectary of State for Near East Affairs has nothing better to do than to post comments on the Internet.

I hear Obama is in Bab Esba3 right now, rallying all the other Salafis for a night demo. And Hillary Clinton is in Khaldia, sewing banners. And the Emir of Qatar is personally running Thuraya phones across the Lebanese border.

🙂

“Do you have that special someone in your life to talk to instead of your computer?”

Let’s just say I’m not the only one having a good laugh right now hehehehehe.

OTW

It’s freaky when you think about it. How can any logical and balanced decision be made when the mind holds so many competing and contradictory thoughts.

You are getting dangerously incoherent now!

Do you need someone to come check on you?

I have a good friend psychiatrist in the Washington DC area I can give you her phone number if you’re interested. She’ll have you back on your feet before you know it

OTW
What did your mother teach you?did your mother teach you to lie?your dude Arbood is the lying all the time and he knows that I have exposed him.You are jumping to give him cover up.are you part of the paid Electronic MB Shbiha.Are you going to have payment cut due to your stupid posts and the discovery of your foul smelling and unprofessional behavior?
OTW stay in the wall and keep out of this moderator scandal.

“I have a good friend psychiatrist in the Washington DC area ”

Ah, if she was only closer to Wyoming, where the menhebaks claim I live 🙂

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/world/middleeast/arab-league-asked-to-act-on-syria.html

Arab League Asked to Act on Syria
By NEIL MacFARQUHAR

September 14, 2011

Scores of Arab and international human rights organizations have submitted a petition to the Arab League demanding that it suspend Syria as a member until that nation halts its crackdown on demonstrators who are demanding democratic change. The petition, signed by more than 175 organizations, also said Arab League members should support United Nations actions including a travel ban and the freezing of assets and should go even beyond those measures with an arms embargo. The lack of a unified Arab position against the Syrian government, unlike the reaction to the uprising in Libya, has helped block international action against Damascus.

@270 and you wonder why you were banned? People are trying to explain to you why you are being a paranoid little menhebak, and you insult them. Tsk tsk.

Heck, if I had the power to censor you, I’d do so for that rude and foul mouthed post of yours.

You see, your whole manufactured grievance is just a way for you to get back at Landis, for the ban you were slapped with. Instead of taking responsibility for your actions, you spam this forum with the most ridiculous and outrageous accusations, all so you can tell yourself that you weren’t banned for doing anything wrong. No, it was all a conspiracy.

Dude, do you see conspiracies in your cereal?

Of course, I don’t agree with this article as whole, but the point I want to comment on is your comparison of this era to the 1980’s.

In the 1980’s the USSR was collapsing and the US was ascending to its highest glory. Today the picture is the opposite. The US is now collapsing and Asia is rising.

Things are not going to be as bad as in the 1980’s because China and other Eastern countries will pump money into Syria. Syria already has minimal trade with the West, and we barely get any money from them.

What you ‘pro-American’ guys mostly need is a process of mental adjustment. You have to stop thinking of yourselves as American subordinates or American wannabes and start thinking of yourselves as Syrians. I know this is very hard for you at this age, but I hope that we will start paying more attention to the newer generations.

I proposed professional help but he refused

All this pretending to be someone else (Syrian) is affecting his Psyche! I hope he does not end up with schizophrenia disorder!

“because China and other Eastern countries will pump money into Syria”

No one is going to pump money into a country where credit cards don’t work, the government won’t let you expatriate your profits, and the political outlook is so dismal. Syria has to compete with alot of other countries for DFI, and as things stand it is a worse prospect than Turkey, Lebanon, Egypt and Israel.

I know that living pipe dreams is a habit that’s hard for the menhebaks to get out of, especially at this age, but hopefully this experience will at least help you to start paying attention on how Globalization and the world economy really works.

the economies of the west are running on over drive

unemployment is at zero

stock markets are at an all time high

poverty is a thing of the past

being married to your computer is a life

An article from your favorite non-Persian country

http://en.rian.ru/world/20110913/166805147.html

EU ‘salutes courage of Syrian people’
Ria Novosti

The European Union praised on Tuesday the resolve of the Syrian people and urged the authorities to halt its crackdown on the opposition.

“The EU salutes the courage and determination of the Syrian people which they continue to demonstrate every day despite the repression,” a spokesman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said.

“The EU demands that [President] Bashar al-Assad and his regime stop their violent campaign without delay and release all detained protesters,” the statement added.

The statement also included condemnation of “the killing of human rights activist Ghiath Matar while detained by the Syrian security forces.”

Matar, a key figure in the uprising which has rocked Syria since March, died after being arrested on September 6. Rights groups say he was tortured to death.

The UN says over 2,000 people have been killed since the start of the protests against Assad.

The U.S. and the EU have called for Assad to stand down.

“The U.S. and the EU have called for Assad to stand down.”

Well that’s it then tomorrow Assad will obey and stand down.

Go to sleep now.

“Well that’s it then tomorrow Assad will obey and stand down.”

Hahahah. Menhebak thinks that Athad stepping down and leaving Mubarak style is still an option.

We are far beyond that. Now, we want the little sh*t’s head, his and his brother’s.

Al Sha3eb yureed e3dam el safah!

@Syrian Prometheus
Please, I was (d’accord) on the same wave with your view until the boom: Alawites are armed!!!! So now I’m armed!! Enough what I’m reading that I don’t pay electricity and telephone bills, that I can work anywhere in the state sector, that I’m beating the faithfuls. Enough that an Alawite working in private sector is something very difficult and depends on hiding our identity and manipulating the usual question on Syrians: where are you from!!!
Many Alawites, are secular and against the regime.
Every time I defend the peaceful protestation I find myself with people who want my head, if they can see my Identity card!!!
I’m not going on Fridays, out of mosques, Calling Al Jihad just to be anti-regime. Believe me, I’m not the only one.
When it started in Hamadieh we were with those arrested. But when seeing with my eyes the armed people shooting and calling Jihad in Berzeh, I was disappointed. Even worse reading the blogs that these were peaceful protesters.
In the urban Damascus evolved some kind of a civil cohabitation (not optional of course, ask the first immigrants who came there in the sixties).
Deraa has some kind of a homogeneous community, except some Christians who fled their homes but nobody talking about.
But Banias, Lattakia and Homs (post the rural immigration) have some hostilities residual since the days of Ottoman occupation. No need a match to explode.
Democracy has to be social before to reflect itself on the political scene. When asking many of my pro revolution friends something like: a female president, rejection of sectarianism, secularism, abortion, civil marriages, divorce and many other things. Just try and ask the question on facebook, not in person, because the Syrians like to lie and manipulate.
We always discussed what is happening, we anticipated many years ago, and always wished that the regime get out but enough weakened to reform, since their is no alternative.

OH! You did it now! The moderator is not going to like that!

Wait a minute. You are the moderator lol how did I forget that!

I take it back just keep it up and you’ll be fine lol

This feels eerily like those times when I’m talking to a girl on the phone, and she won’t hang up until I hang up……

SNK
What did your mother teach you?

probably the same basic values your good mother must have tried to teach you. In my case, there may have been an additional push for both excellence and integrity, among other more complex skills that have paid handsomely in my adult social, intellectual, and professional life.

off course i now expect that you will lash back with long list of vices assaulting me and my good mother, exactly as a toddler would do when arguing as she/he drive themselves into a tantrum.

OTW stay in the wall and keep out of this moderator scandal.

This is one of the lamest insults hurled at me. In fact, most of your posts are child-like tantrums, painful to read for anyone who is developmentally above 12 years. It used to be 14, but you managed to go down a notch with every ban.

ABOUD
To the contrary, with high intelligence, compartmentalization can do miracles. Bill Clinton is known to be one of the most outstanding examples of compartmentalization. He was incredibly intelligent, productive, efficient, and focused. But in the end, his excessive compartmentalization may have been a factor in some of his most stupid actions he took. Although compartmentalization requires a reasonable above average intelligence, when those below average manage to apply it, the results are catastrophically targi-comical.

Dear Mr. Bashar Al Assad ex-president of the ex-Republic of Syria please make way. You have broken this country and its people. But now please go. You have arruined the economics and created a mafia and a gangster and criminal military. But now please take your belongings and go. Take a time to go and pray at any sufi mosque or chia mosque instead if you prefer and be wise and brave enough to take the final decision to go away.

If Erdogan is right when he says Syria is near to collapse into a Civil War I think menhebbaks who have proved to be nothing but a group of brainless people beneffiting from their positions under the rule of violence and the detention of arms, should collect their belongings as soon as possible and fly away.

Menhebbaks have shown that if they had not the power of arms and should have not used massively against civil population they should have been crushed long long time ago.

The no-returning point has been crossed at the speed of light. Syria will never be again what it once was. No one can try to look back and see anything, the acceleration of facts do not allow to see them just look in front of you to avoid any collision.

@ #175 Aboud’s ‘jokes’:

…*sigh*/*facepalm*…Alright man that’s what’s up…

@ #170 Tara:

Yea I’m available for questions; it might take me a while to respond though because I’m busy with my studies, but nonetheless, I’ll answer any questions you have.

Wow! Ive been away for so long only to return to see the same childish comments made by the same childish people. YUP!! And Assads still in power.

I stayed away from SC for a long time, but since I have come back I really appreciate it thanks in part to the “MB rabble-rousers”. Given the threats from the menhebaks, may be we should create a backup site where we can regroup when and if, God forbid, Josh gets his Syrian family threatened and is forced to close down or kick everyone out.

Ann, YOU are the one who needs counselling.

Norman,

Thanks for the reply. I didn’t know you were a medical doctor, so I’ll try to be on my best behaviour!

Re: Post 206

I had some difficulty understanding some of your response. Every country and every government makes mistakes. My country, the USA, didn’t allow blacks and women to vote. It took between 100 and 200 years until both these mistakes were corrected.

Life will never be the same for Syrians, i just hope they can make the change peacefully, enough killing people and army.

The only person preventing peaceful change is the Assad clan and a small group of thugs.

Change is never easy, but the Syrians have been suffering for a LONG time. If the Assads had any conscience, like, say, Mubarak, he would call for multi-party elections and promise to step down if he is not elected. The Syrian army would protect Syrians and insure security until the elections. It isn’t that difficult is one is REALLY concerned about Syria like you are.

How an educated person like yourself and Professor Josh can continue to make excuses for the Assads is beyond comprehension for me, a non-Syrian observer.

I have a good friend psychiatrist in the Washington DC area…

Ann,

I’m happy to see you are typing words instead of cutting a pasting articles (seriously). BTW – I see we live in the same area here in the FREE USA.

Tell us, do you like living here? Did you live in Syria at one time? Did you feel the earthquake last month??

Just like Livni boasting about cast lead.

Annie,

Re: Post 243

To my knowledge, Syrian citizens are not firing thousands of missiles into population centers.

It is just my observation, but even though the Arab Spring is purely an internal Arab awakening, where Arabs are finally asking for their basic freedoms, part of this awakening is the ability of Arabs to accept Israel as permanent element of the ME, with the same rights to self-defense as any other ME nation.

At this point, there are still a few countries and many in the Arab Street that do not recognize the State of Israel. This may change as democracy grows.

AP,

The Syrian regime is like an elephant who started small in a room then became big and fat, it is difficult to change the direction of that elephant in the room, he has to put on a diet first then change direction, the regime has to see that by force only it can not control the situation, Assad does not have dictatorial control, he works out of the Baath party and the army and after what happened to those in Iraq, it is fear what is motivating them more than brain, you know people in Israel who think the same about Israel.

Peaceful transition is what is needed, with the army securing minority rights and peaceful transfer of power.

The opposition has to accept that and not seek the dissolution of the army and the Baath party to gain trust.

Norman,

Your comparison of the Syrian government to an oversized elephant doesn’t seem accurate to me. You are Syrian, so perhaps you know something I don’t.

Usually large elephants describe large countries with huge bureaucracies like the US, Russia, the UK, France, etc, where it takes a long time to get something small completed.

Moreover, the government leadership is the Assad family. Don’t they call the shots? If the head of the Syrian Army says, “continue to protect Syria under my direction and, oh, BTW, we’re going to hold multi-party elections” don’t you think the army would comply?? I don’t think the army is against free elections, especially if we are seeing defections.

It seems to me “peaceful transition” is being withheld because of a few power-hungry individuals, not some hypothetically large elephant.

This might be an encore : http://youtu.be/xdmlPhWIAuw (Message from Anonymous: Operation Syria )

http://informing.ceops.eu/index.en.html
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Possible threats you face when using Internet

If you publicly express an opinion against the authorities on the Internet, expect that you or your family will most probably be threatened by Moukhabarats.
Torture is also known to be used as retaliation measure (shown by the example of Ali Farzat) and to force people to give up their Facebook login and password in order to identify and capture their friends, relatives and associates.
Publishing a simple song on the Internet can lead you to death, like Ibrahim Qashoosh who had his throat cut because of a song he invented.
These risks are real and extremely serious. Lots of people have already died because of their Internet activities, which the Syrian government considered a threat to their power.

Means of communication that can put you in danger

Skype should be avoided. The company has been caught providing governments with access to users data in the past.
Facebook, MSN, Gmail and Google+ are known to be monitored by the Syrian government to keep track of all potential opponents. They use fake accounts to fool people and spy on them and their friends. They steal passwords by means of either monitoring or torture. All chat data on Facebook, Yahoo, MSN and Gtalk are not secure and can be seen by authorities.
Web browsing is monitored and censored at all times using equipment manufactured by an American company called BlueCoat, and bought by the Syrian government. Every Google/Yahoo search you do and every comment you post either on a blog or on Facebook is for sure intercepted and stored. Some websites are censored to prevent Syrian citizens from accessing to information that authorities unilaterally consider as unwanted.
Do not use Ultrasurf, it has been reported to send private data to servers that have not been identified yet.
Internet cafés are the worst possible traps. Every key you strike, website you visit, application you start or word you say through Skype can be recorded thanks to pre-installed spying software. Moukhabarats are highly present in Internet cafés.
Assume every phone call can be listened to by authorities (either cell phone or landline). Never transmit sensitive information by telephone.

Simple precautions to guarantee minimal safety

Use antivirus software to scan your computers for malwares that can track your activity even on your own computer.
Change your passwords often, use complicated passwords.
On the Web, use httpS:// instead of http:// as often as possible. The s stands for SSL and encrypts the flow of data between you and the website, making it much more difficult to read by authorities, even if intercepted. Example: SSL-secured Google search is available at https://www.google.com.
Never transmit passwords or any sensitive information to non-HTTPS websites, as they will be intercepted and stored by authorities without effort.
Never ask Google to send you a text message on your cellphone to recover an account.
Authorities also try to spy on HTTPS connections, but it can be detected with simple verifications that we describe here.
Never reveal information that can personally identify you or your associates on the Internet. Change your online identity often (use multiple aliases to disguise who you are).
Remove the battery from your cell phone (cell phones can be used to locate your position in real time).
Always remember that the safest way of communication is a physical one-to-one conversation while walking in the street.

Software to communicate more safely

Web Browsing:
Prefer browsing with Firefox.
Use Tor to scramble the path between your computer and websites you visit, thus increasing your anonymity. Download Tor-enabled Firefox package in Arabic or English. Tor can also help you accessing censored websites.
Usage of HTTPS can be enforced on many websites with the Firefox plugin HTTPS Everywhere, available here.
Another plugin can help in detecting attempts to spy on HTTPS connections, it is named Certificate Patrol.
Safe E-mail Communication:
Secure encrypted webmail can replace Gmail, Hotmail and others: https://www.hushmail.com is fully secured and anonymous, for example.
If you use Thunderbird, the content of your e-mails can be encrypted using Enigmail plugin.
Discrete Message Broadcasting:
http://m.essag.es provides an efficient way to publish encrypted messages quickly. Write your message, encrypt it with two keys and broadcast the URL. The same keys are used for decryption.
Voice Communication (Secure Skype Replacement):
Telecomix provides a Mumble server. Download Mumble and connect to hello.ceops.eu or talk.endno.de. These servers are SSL-secured. This software is simple and allows chatrooms and private chats. You can connect through Tor so that authorities will not even notice you are using Mumble.
Encourage your family and friends to do the same, so that you do not rely on Skype anymore.
Instant Communication
Google Talk, MSN and Facebook chat can be used more securely thanks to Pidgin with OTR extension enabled. Use all your accounts from Pidgin and make sure OTR is active in all conversations.
Telecomix provides HTTPS Web access to a simple and anonymous Internet Relay Chat server. It is available at https://chat.werebuild.eu/?channels=opsyria. It allows for secure private communication as well as chatrooms.
Many IRC servers exist, most of them accepting secure (SSL) connections. IRC clients such as X-Chat can be used.

Troubles downloading software ?

Authorities may be forbidding the download of some software we mention here. We prepared counter-measures and provide alternative links for most essential software at the bottom of this page.
Who are we ?

This message comes from people of the Internet called Telecomix, who support freedom of speech and fight against censorship and invasion of privacy.
We have supported free communication in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia.
We have hacked into Syrian Telecommunications Establishment’s network and unveiled a vast surveillance infrastructure. Your Internet activity is monitored by your government.
We have caused this Internet breakdown to try to help you recover a full freedom of speech on the Internet. You are undergoing extreme Internet restriction and surveillance, which are considered a violation of basic human rights.
We wrote this document to increase Syrian people’s awareness on the dangers they incur and to give protective tools. You can find a shorter, printable version here.
We are not seeking money and are not endorsed with any government or corporation. We are individual activists gathered around the idea of freedom of expression.

Let the world know what is going on:

Telecomix can help you get the word out while protecting your identity. Videos, sounds, texts, testimonies, leaked documents, or any sensitive data can be anonymously published.
You are very welcome on our secure and totally anonymous Internet Relay Chat, simply accessible through this URL: https://chat.werebuild.eu/?channels=opsyria. All you have to do is to choose a nickname and connect. We can give you additional advices.
Non-governmental organizations:
Red Cross (USA) – phone: +1 2023035000
Human Rights First – phone: +1 2128455200 – fax: +1 2025435999
International newspapers:
Al Jazeera – phone: +974 44897446 – fax: +974 44897472
New York Times – phone: +1 2125561831
CNN – phone: +1 4048782276 – fax: +1 4048271995
ABC News – phone: +1 2129754321
BBC – phone: +44 2084332221 – fax: +44 2084333266
We strongly hope to hear from many of you.

End of Message

In French :

http://owni.fr/2011/09/14/syrie-des-hackers-font-tomber-le-mur-de-la-censure/

Still, I am leery

Two thugs whipping a boy to prostrate to Jr’s photo.
He found it less painful to spit on it!

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AP,
I am just saying that the Syrian regime and structure is too complicated for just an executive order to change, if president Assad moves faster he will be swept away,he is swimming in raging river with many rocks, getting to the bank need a lot of work.

It’s “Complicated”?

I am just saying that the Syrian regime and structure is too complicated for just an executive order to change, if president Assad moves faster he will be swept away,he is swimming in raging river with many rocks, getting to the bank need a lot of work.

AP,

Norman, this will be my last response, and then I’ll move to the sideline on this issue. Thanks again.

Mubarak stepped down, and the huge protests stopped. The army took political control and continues to defend and provide security (except for the Israeli embassy). The world didn’t come to an end. I think the same could have been done in Syria, except that there are some very selfish people are in control there, namely Bashar Assad.

KIW phalange unit of the FOM ambushed Regime’s security and paramilitia convoy on the Road to Hama killing more than 30 and wounding more than 20 of them.

Three of the FOM unit fell martyrs in the attack.
AlFatiha upon their souls,
May God bless their families with solace and empower them with patience.
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about an hour ago

FSA and FOM have taken another initiative to stamp their authority as the legitimate armed forces of Syria.

The High Military Council of the FSA and FOA will be announcing an ultimatum for high offciails in the iliigitimate government to resign or defect.

Failing the ultimatum would render them liable to be charged with treason and complicity in the killing and torture of civilians.

The targeted high official groups exclude the Army and Security Forces and include:
1. Diplomatic corps
2. Media corps
3. Writers
4. Baath party members.
5. Government administration
6. Employees of companies supporting the regime.

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about an hour ago

“Given the threats from the menhebaks, may be we should create a backup site where we can regroup”

I agree. Let’s think on this for a moment.

Nice video clip

300. Haytham Khoury It is an excellent video

Following your example, Oustad Khoury, I am posting under my real name. I am still Annie nevertheless. anniebannie (annie banished from Syria)

Aboud: it would not be that easy though. JL is a precious source of information and it would be a pity to lose him. There is also the safety of the SC pple inside Syria.

2011-09-14 11:24:10

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So, they slit the man’s throat, then fire tear gas canisters at the tent where his family are receiving mourners.

Qurdaha primitive mentality. “Stone age here we come?” The Qurdaha thugs never left the stone age.

Report: Syria attacked mourners after US visit
CBS News
September 14, 2011 8:55 AM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/14/501364/main20105957.shtml

BEIRUT – Syrian troops fired tear gas at a gathering of mourners just hours after U.S. Ambassador Robert Ford and other Western diplomats expressed their condolences to the family of a rights advocate killed last week, activists said Wednesday.

The incident could increase already high tensions between Washington and Damascus, which has accused the United States of helping incite violence in Syria. Authorities have also criticized two earlier visits by Ford to the country’s central and southern regions.

The Syrian regime is trying to crush a 6-month-old uprising with deadly force that has killed some 2,600 people, according to U.N. estimates.

Special Section: Anger in the Arab World
Syria mounts deadly raids as Russia backs regime
Iran condemns violent Syrian crackdown

Also Wednesday, Syrian troops conducted raids in the northwestern province of Idlib and the central region of Homs, the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said. It was not immediately clear if there were any casualties.

The raids came a day after more than 20 people were killed throughout Syria, according to the Observatory and Mustafa Osso, a Syria-based rights activist.

Osso, who runs the Local Coordination Committees activist network, said the attack on mourners occurred on Tuesday night, after Ford and several other ambassadors had left the gathering in the Damascus suburb of Daraya.

Osso said troops fired tear gas at the tent with mourners and relatives of Ghayath Mattar but no one was hurt.

Mattar was detained on Sept. 6 and his body was returned to his family over the weekend.

A U.S. embassy official confirmed Ford’s visit, saying he was accompanied by other diplomats. An amateur video posted on YouTube showed Ford and several other Westerners at a gathering as verses from the Quran, Islam’s holy book, blared from loudspeakers.

Last month, President Barack Obama demanded Syrian President Bashar Assad resign because he had lost legitimacy as a ruler. Major U.S. allies such as Britain, France, Germany and the European Union have made similar moves.

Washington and the EU have also imposed sanctions on some Syrian officials because of Assad’s crackdown.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-20105957.html#ixzz1Xw3iVHMi

Ambassador Ahmad: Some Arab Sides Are Hindering Solving Crisis in Syria

Sep 14, 2011

CAIRO, (SANA) – Syria’s Permanent Representative to the Arab League (AL), Youssef Ahmad, on Tuesday warned of the negative attitudes of some Arab sides which hinder solving the crisis in Syria.

Ambassador Ahmad was speaking at the concluding session of the 136 AL Council held at the AL headquarters in Cairo on the level of foreign ministers.

“There are Arab sides which have adopted negative stances that do not at all help in solving the crisis in Syria, and are implementing the dictates of some international powers which are leading the conspiracy and exerting suspicious pressure on Syria,” said Ambassador Ahmad.

He continued that “any attitude taken by the AL towards the situation in Syria should be based on the positive and constructive content of the AL Secretary-General’s report. Otherwise the Syrian people won’t forget that some of the Arabs, whom they used to support and help over the years, rejected to help them and played a negative role side by side with the international powers which are targeting Syria’s security, stability and national role.”

During the meeting, the AL Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi presented a report on the talks he held with President Bashar al-Assad on Saturday including a review of the measures he agreed upon with the Syrian leadership to find solutions for the current crisis in Syria in what leads to putting an end to all forms of violence and securing Syria’s stability and security.

Al-Arabi’s report also included agreement on the means of moving forward in the political reforms in Syria and on sending a high-level AL Secretariat-General delegation to visit the Syrian cities and areas and see the reality on the ground.

Ambassador Ahmad said Syria is moving ahead with the reform process in response to its citizens’ legitimate demands and with performing its national duty of protecting the Syrian people and their security and defending the country’s stability and national unity.

He stressed that Syria will come out of the current crisis stronger and more firm in the face of the conspiracy and the foreign pressures aimed at forcing Syria to give up its principled national and pan-Arab and stances which support the Arab right and the Palestinian Cause.

The Ambassador presented a Syrian initiative on a draft resolution to be issued by the AL Council which reflects an integral Arab vision that meets the joint will of the Arab peoples through adopting a package of political, economic and social reforms to ensure enhancing democracy and respecting human rights and facing all attempts of foreign interference in the Arab countries’ internal affairs.

At the end of the meeting, Syria and Lebanon announced their reservation on the AL Council statement about the situation in Syria, with Ambassador Ahmad stressing Syria’s total rejection of the statement and considering it “a hostile and non-constructive act” in dealing with the crisis in Syria and an attempt to foil the AL Secretary General’s mission.

National Dialogue Sessions Continue in the Syrian Provinces and Universities

Sep 14, 2011

DAMASCUS, (SANA)- With the participation of representatives of various popular and economic activities and academic and social figures from all spectrums of the society and political parties, independent, and opposition representatives, national dialogue sessions continued on Wednesday in the Syrian provinces and universities.

The sessions aim to discuss various visions to set up a common platform for the work during the forthcoming stage based on enhancing the independence of the national decision, maintaining the national sovereignty and respecting the freedom of the citizen and law sovereignty.
http://www.sana.sy/eng/337/2011/09/14/369304.htm

TO SYRIA NO KANDAHAR
My dear I a have a terrible personal story about privacy breach on this blog …..JL knows what I mean……. I suggest all pro Syria writers here to stop writing and even reading of it as I see this blog has become like a channel of Aljazeera group…..

To Dr.Landis
I suggest again to stop the comment section on this blog and send our comments in another way like a special email…..such way allows readers to comment on the main post without turning the page to a chatting page or making it a method of insulting.

Dear JL
if you want to contact me please do not use the email which is related to this account as I think it was hacked by???????

“Building the Syrian State” Movement Inaugurated

Sep 13, 2011

DAMASCUS, (SANA) – “Building the Syrian State” Movement was announced on Tuesday formed by a number of Syrian individuals. The movement has offices in several provinces and some countries of the world.

Louai Hussain, a founder of the movement, said the movement’s vision is building a democratic civil state and achieving social justice in consultation with all social spectrums.

Hussain added that the movement will be involved publicly in the political life and will contribute through its programs to empowering the Syrian people, particularly the young people to get involved in the public life to help shift to a democratic civil state.

Hussain pointed out that during the coming days a plan will be presented on the suggestions and mechanisms of achieving democracy and contributing to creating political life through working on constructing the state of law and civil society based on citizenship.

He said that the movement will also work on achieving its objectives through achieving sustainable development and focusing on democratic economy that takes into consideration the policy of social justice.

Mona Ghanem, a founder of the movement, said the current crisis in Syria showed the desire of the Syrian people to take part in building a political life that expresses their aspirations, pointing out to the importance of investing the desire to build a pluralist political life governed by the constitution and protected by law.

She also pointed out to the importance of current dialogue in the Syrian provinces being a positive political atmosphere.

http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2011/09/13/369228.htm

Syrian opposition members Hassan Kamel, Louai Hussain, Mona Ganem and Bahaa Al Deen Erkad at a press conference in Damascus to announce the formation of a party called ‘Building the Syrian State’. This is the first party to be announced in Syria since the endorsement of the multi-party law by Syrian President Bashar Al Assad last month.

http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/fr/viewer.aspx
with a photo

209. Syria no kandahar said: “How would Abood know that I am banned befor that shows on line.if Abood is his moderator he is violating privacy laws,and SC is run by jisr alshoghor laws.

…… I have been suspecting all along Arbood is Ammar Abdulhameed.”

SNK, this is a blog to exchange and receive information and debate issues that are related to Syria, politically, socially and economically.

No one is interested why SNK? where is SNK? who is SNK? this blog is not about shooting the messenger, it is about debating the message.

We are interested in moving forward collectively, with you.

A better future is awaiting us all. Syria is no longer about one family, one party, either you or me. Syria is much bigger, her history is telling, her people are capable of changing and weathering change.

You are a patriotic Syrian with a lovely sense of humour, a witty poet, you are.

Attacking any message is acceptable by JL and all, atacking the messenger is not, me and I are incapable of producing any useful result, WE, collectively, will be able to rise from the ashes and rebuild this neglected nation, a nation that was hijacked by one family, on the expense of all Syrians, for half a century. Let us move forward with a common word. How can we move forward collectively, and build our nation?

Regime supporters losing their argument and displaying complete intellectual bankruptcy therefore restoring to false accusation of JL and SC. They are doing exactly what the Syrian regime have done for the last 40 years and continued to do, inventing conspiracies. The conspiracy now is about SC. They would like to see this site closed so the murderer Syrian regime is not exposed. If you do not like it here, nobody is forcing you to stay. You are not going to be missed! Believe me.

The following is a personal translation of a leaked communiqué sent by Air Force Security Chief and addressed to Army Chief of Staff concerning the circumstances and cause of death of civilian while in detention in Air Force Security prison.

It serves to show an example of the “standard procedure” for reporting, investigating and arriving at the cause of death of civilians who die while in prsion, in the custody of security.

http://all4syria.info/web/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/298970_10150290700137469_590417468_7955510_1024854864_n.jpg

Memo
To: General Dawood Rajha, Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces
From: General Jameel Hasan, Director of Air Forces Security Forces Administration
Date: 07/05/2011

Subject: Report on the death Mr Mahmood Abdelrahman and Recommendation for Approval

Mr Mahmood AbdelRahman, born in Msaifra, Dar3a in 1939, was refered to us due to his participation in demonstration, vandalism and attacking a Military residential compound.

Initial hearing yielded the following: After Friday prayer on 24/04/2011 and incited by Preacher Imam Ahmad Al3adawi, he set out with others to Saida Military Residential compound for staging a protest and attacking the compound in order to help undo Dar3a blockade.

During the medical round on 01/05/2011 the 71 year old elderly was found free of complaints and had “normal chest and heart”. BP was 95/60 and pulse was 80 and regular.
The subject had breakfast and later underwent another medical evaluation and his condition was normal, without chest or heart complaints. BP was 115/70 and pulse was 87 and regular. Later he had an uneventful lunch.
His medical condition deteriorated suddenly in the same evening at 19:30 and according to the doctor who examined him, he developed heart arrest. Attempted CPR was unsuccessful; food residues were found in his mouth.
He was pronounced dead due to heart arrest resulting from acute myocardial infarction.

His body was transferred to the Department of Forensic Medicine at Teshreen Military Hospital. It was inspected by the investigative team comprised of the Assistant to the Chief Military Attorney Officer Samer Deeb Abbas, and Forensic Medical Expert Doctor Colonel Akram AlSha3ar. The team concluded that death was caused by acute myocardial infarction.

Upon completion of the medical and legal investigations, The Military Judiciary decided to release the body to the family on 03/05/2011 and passed the order to Teshreen Hospital.

In case the Military Judiciary have not yet finalized its report, we recommend that the related legal file be retained at the Military Judiciary.
Otherwise we urge adding the following caveat prior to submission to the General Commander of the Armed Forces; Not subject to any further judicial investigation.
___________________________________________________________________
Personal observations:
1. The detained subject, a 71 elderly was arrested for something that has nothing to do with the security of the Air Force, yet he ended up in Qabeeh Bishe3’s dungeon!
2. Those who arrested the man knew he was an elderly. This means that anti-demonstration laws, signed by Thug One apply and are enforced regardless of age.
3. The said charge was outrageous considering the age of the victim, which included vandalism and attacking a Military residential compound!
4. Cause of death was arrived at without proper forensic autopsy. In the future, bodies of victims could be examined exhumis and findings would be compared such perfunctory forensic reports. Major discrepancies would add to the piles of charges waiting for all of those involved
5. The Military Judiciary is under the influence of the investigating teams of the Security Forces.
6. The final report ends up at Thug One’s desk, in his capacity as the Commander in Chief of The Armed Forces.
As such, he is more informed than any of his military generals, security chiefs, or human rights activists on the exact number of those who have and will be dying of torture in his dungeons.

Syrian Analyst: Chaos in Syria Linked to Zionist and Western Plots

During a meeting with the Russian-Syrian Friendship Association on Tuesday, Sep 13, Syrian Presidential Political and Media Advisor Bouthaina Shaaban affirmed that events taking place in Syria are linked to Zionist and Western plots to divide Arab countries and end the Arab-Israeli conflict without restoring Arab rights.

http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=265685

Ahlul Bayt News Agency – During a meeting with the Russian-Syrian Friendship Association on Tuesday, Sep 13, Syrian Presidential Political and Media Advisor Bouthaina Shaaban affirmed that events taking place in Syria are linked to Zionist and Western plots to divide Arab countries and end the Arab-Israeli conflict without restoring Arab rights.

During the meeting, Shaaban reviewed the facets of the Syrian situation and its connections to foreign agendas, stressing that facts and confessions of terrorists confirm the existence of foreign plots and sides that provide logistic support and media coverage to cause violence and undermine Syria’s stability.

Shaaban stressed as well that the priority is realizing the interests of the Syrian people, stating “we don’t believe the West and other forces in the region when they talk about democracy and human rights… we have blatant examples of the violation of those rights and destruction of countries in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and more.”

For his part, Chairman of the Association Alexander Dzasokhov affirmed that the majority of the Russian people support Syria in the face of the hostile plots targeting it, noting that Russian public opinion and political, parliamentary and social figures agree with the Russian leadership in rejecting foreign interference in Syria’s internal affairs.

In a similar meeting, Shaaban underlined with members of the Syrian community in Russia the recent reform steps and laws in political, economic and social fields.

In turn, members of the Syrian community expressed their support of their homeland under the leadership of President Bashar al-Assad, voicing confidence in Syria’s ability to overcome the current crisis and expressing readiness to do all that can help achieve this, reiterating rejection of all attempts to destabilize Syria and undermine its dignity.

They also lauded the stances of Russian people and leadership in support of Syria’s aspirations to resolve its issues on its own and build a modern, prosperous country without tampering with its sovereignty and internal affairs.

Norman, HSYRIAN,

How can any one trust criminals?

From March 15, to this day, the only change the regime was capable of: to escalate the disturbance into a full scale riot, in every area they ventured in.

A regime that is adamant on rhetoric. Their language is persuasive, but lacking in sincerity, the truth is, all we ever heard from this family is empty rhetoric.

Ghiath Matar, 27 year old, killed and handed to his family, with words no one can come up with, what they uttered is sickening. This young man and his friends were keen on creativity, handing water and flowers to junior security forces.

When the late Ibrahim Kashoush talked about their deeds in chanting, he was terminated. A man that was junior’s age when his father killed thousands of Hamwis in 3 days or less, their was no reporters, Twitter, cell phones.. today, seeing is believing. Some atrocities are documented, unfortunately the majority are not. Thanks to the utter stupidity of the three amigos, beesho, maher and assef.

Any opposition figure can be terminated, any innocent by-passer can be suspicious. They were never trusted, hey can never be trusted. Many of their close men were liquidated. Their turn has come. Time is not their friend, with every ticking second, their end is closer.

N.Z. we trust israel don’t we?

Russia warns of Syria terror threat – 4:19PM BST 14 Sep 2011

Russia warned on Wednesday that “terrorist organisations” could arise in Syria if President Bashar al-Assad’s regime fell under pressure from ongoing street protests.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/8762912/Russia-warns-of-Syria-terror-threat.html

The comments marked the latest salvo in a heated war of words between Russia and the West over its traditional regional ally – a country listed as a state sponsor of terrorism by the United States.

The foreign ministry’s new challenges and threats department chief Ilya Rogachyov said Western military intervention was threatening to create new hotbeds of extremist activity in a region already shaken by war in Iraq.

“If the Syrian government is unable to hold on to power, there is a high probability that radicals and representatives of terrorist organisations will become entrenched,” the Interfax news agency quoted the top foreign ministry official as saying.

Russia has been attracting increasing international anger over its continued support for Syria despite a government crackdown on protests that the United Nations estimates to have killed around 2,600 people.

Moscow has refused to support Western sanctions against Assad’s regime and argued that equal pressure should also be placed on the protesters who refuse to engage Assad in direct talks.

President Dmitry Medvedev last week also said that some of those taking part in the Syrian demonstration had links to “terrorists”.

Russia intends to send a group of senators to Syria in the coming days to come with its own ground report and has previously vowed to continue supplying arms to Assad’s government.

The standoff highlights growing tensions that began nearly a decade ago when US-led forces invaded Iraq and escalated further with this year’s Nato-led campaign in Libya.

Moscow enjoyed wide authority in the region in the Soviet era and has watched with increasing alarm as Western pressure and a public frustration helped push veteran regional leaders from power.

Rogachyov cautioned that it was premature to say whether new governments such as the one being set up in Libya would be able to survive and ensure security and peace.

“Strange things are happening in Libya,” Interfax quoted Rogachyov as saying during a lecture in Russia’s second city of Saint Petersburg.

“Weapons stores have been burgled and no one knows what happened,” he said. “We can say with a high degree of probability that the weapons fell into the hands of the regional department of al-Qaeda.”

Russia heavily criticised the Nato-led campaign against Muammar Gaddafi’s forces after abstaining on a UN vote that authorised the action.

As much as we trust a self serving family, assad’s and their cronies.

Both denied people their, DIGNITY, EQUALITY and SOCIAL JUSTICE.

Child convinced she’s on holiday with her father in Syria

Tuesday September 13 2011

http://www.fingal-independent.ie/news/child-convinced-shes-on-holiday-with-her-father-2876094.html

It is thought a plan to send May to Catholic school this week may have been the impetus for Assad to take the decision to abduct his daughter. He wants the child to be raised as a Muslim and reportedly, he wants Louise to sell everything she owns and live with him and May in Syria as an Islamic family. It is believed that Mostafa is being sheltered in Syria by his parents.

Dr. Landis is traveling so he cannot answer for himself now. Abboud is not the moderator of this blog (no it is not me either).

As Dr. Landis explained before, this forum is about to be taken down very soon (perhaps in a week). I have had the pleasure of knowing Dr. Landis on a personal level for years. He has an impeccable character.

There is no conspiracy theory anywhere. Private email addresses are not shared or compromised. Cut out the nonsense.

These are very emotional times. Enjoy the little that is left to argue on a forum that has given us all a place to vent, learn and argue.

Welcome to sunni comment Anarchism,home of Chaos Revolution!

saudi barbaria intends to rape syria,oops,my bad,to democratize syria a la saudi way,again by raping….

barbarians salafists thinks filthy oil money&corruption is above the civilized laws

A Spanish court has reopened a rape case against Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz al-Saud of Saudi Arabia, a man Forbes recently dubbed the richest man in the Arab world. Prince Alaweed allegedly drugged and raped a 20-year-old model aboard a luxury yacht in the Mediterranean in August 2008, according to the New York Times, but the case was quietly dropped last summer for what a judge on the resort island of Ibiza deemed a lack of evidence.

But now a provincial court has ordered the judge to reopen the investigation and summon the prince to court. A spokesman for Prince Alwaleed’s investment firm said the accusations were “completely and utterly false,” adding that the prince wasn’t even in Ibiza in August 2008, but rather in Paris and Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt. But a lawyer for the alleged victim says tests confirm she was drugged and sexually assaulted, and he’s calling on the prince to provide a DNA sample.

*** GREAT NEWS FOR ID ABOUD ***

Your salvation is at hand. The blog of tyranny and shame is coming down in one week

Ann FYI, in case you missed it.

`al-walid is half lebanese

*shrug*

When I first came to this blog, it was full of menhebaks, a revolutionary didn’t have room to move about, and its articles were really quite one sided.

Thanks to the efforts of patriotic Syrians, we now find ourselves in a situation where the menhebaks whine that this blog has become an arm of Al-Jazeera. Their whine is a testament to their ineptitude in debating others 🙂

Only a menhebak would rejoice at the fact that Dr Landis is closing down his blog. Before, it was a stronghold of menhebak opinion 🙂

318, Afram

“saudi barbaria intends to rape syria,oops,my bad,to democratize syria a la saudi way,again by raping….”

the president of the only country that was build on ethnic cleansing, massacres, the last colonialist power in the world. afram, do not strain yourself! FYI

7 Aug 2011 – Katsav has denied having any sexual relations with the plaintiff.

Ann

Don’t get too happy. Nothing for sure I guess till we hear from JL.

Ehsani2,

Thank you for the news. I’ve been participating on SC for a number of years, and I appreciated Professor Josh’s and Alex’s patience in putting up with my different perspectives and criticisms.

Perhaps we can use another website?? I also participate on QN’s (Qifa Nakbi) Lebanon website if any of you are interested and if
QN doesn’t take issue with this.

During a meeting with the Russian-Syrian Friendship Association on Tuesday, Sep 13, Syrian Presidential Political and Media Advisor Bouthaina Shaaban affirmed that events taking place in Syria are linked to Zionist and Western plots to divide Arab countries and end the Arab-Israeli conflict without restoring Arab rights.

Ann,

Did Bouthaina Shaaban show the evidence that “affirmed that the events taking place in Syria are linked to Zionist and Western plots”? Were foreign arm shipments discovered going across the border into Syria? Were foreign terrorists discovered/apprehended in Syria? How did the Zionists and Westerners force thousands of Syrian citizens to demonstrate in the streets across Syria? Ms. Shaaban did not share any of this information to the public.

Your salvation is at hand.

Ann,

If we have no other website to discuss current events, I guess we’ll all find salvation!

NZ,

Israel has crime just like every other country on Earth. I hope this doesn’t come as a shock to you. The difference perhaps is that leaders in Israel can get time behind bars. Assad is still living the good life, and he’s responsible for a lot more violence than Katzav.

I ear,Sunni comment in a week NO more

let us collectively do AL-FATIHA

for the inquiring minds wanna know what does AL-FATIHA means?

it means beer Bottle Opener

EHSANI2,

Where Do We Go Now?

A title of a brilliant movie.

Where Do We Go Now? (2011)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1772424/

A group of Lebanese women try to ease religious tensions between Christians and Muslims in their village.
Directed by Nadine Labaki. Starring Kevin Abboud, Claude Baz Moussawbaa, Julian Farhat.

I’ve set up a temporary email at [email protected]

Revolutionaries are welcome to drop me a line. Mention a color in your email, and I’ll confirm it with you on this blog.

Menhebaks are welcome to send me emails so I can harvest their IPs and prove once and for all they are a bunch of Persians 🙂

This email address isn’t permanent.

Hehe, Al-Fatiha. I’m known as Al-Fatih, ever since I met Besho’s sister….

I think we should have restriction on how many note can one person write in a day.

Vileness ???

Ingratitude ????

It’s sad this forum is shutting down, it was the only place I can find sanctuary to discuss syria’s issues, I thank professor Joshua a lot for giving me this opportunity.
Furthermore it was great pleasure discussing with each and everyone of you. I have set up [email protected] to stay in touch with you fine folk. I will respond to everyone with open arms. I hope Aboud, tara, otw, Syrian hamster, Sheila, husam, Samara,Annie, Norman, true ,dr.landis, Khalid,mna, and those I fail to mention get in touch. Regards and may we live to see a blossoming syria.

Spitefulness ???

Good news, Bakkour was on Alarabyieh ,he is alive

Mob ????

Impoliteness ?????

The courageous ambassador Ford.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUJNfjcLzlE

Is Daria within the 25km radius from Damascus.

Majed

What did he say? Where is he?

callousness ????

AP, I got an email from you, but you didn’t mention any color 🙂

Could you confirm you sent it to me. Thanks.

Wretchedness ?????

My apologies if this was already posted. I don’t have the ability to read all previous comments at the moment.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/199122.html

Foreign media overstate Syria death toll

Head of the opposition-linked Coordination Committee, responsible for tracking and announcing the number of victims of Syria unrest, has said that nearly 500 of those reported dead by the foreign media are alive.

He also said that the opposition is losing the trust and confidence of Syrians over the lies and exaggerations.

The unnamed official also held Razan Zaitouneh, an opposition member who has gone into hiding, responsible for spreading lies and incorrect information to news agencies, including Reuters, al-Jazeera and al-Arabiya.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March. Damascus says 700 security and police forces and 700 insurgents have been killed during five months of unrest.

The opposition, however, claims that 2,200 people have been killed.

While the opposition accuses security forces of being behind the killings, the government blames outlaws, saboteurs and armed terrorist groups for the deadly violence, stressing that the unrest is being orchestrated from abroad.

SGID

I haven’t seen it in two weeks, last time it was just 6 pages.

Kraysh. And they still run out of nuggets early 🙁

“Mohamad kan ekhaf Allah, bas inta ma bet khaf Allah!”

🙂

And you mentioned scarlet.

Falsehood ???

Why is Dr. Landis closing down the forum? 🙁 I missed the explanation.

Bakkour was denouncing the regime,I only heared the last part, may be Revlon will help

Dr. Bashar Assad.. Did you get the message !! it’s a very clear one sir …

Salam Ziad, did you mention blue?

@345 Officially he’s off to write a book.

But it didn’t help matters that the menhebaks couldn’t hold their own here and deserted in droves. The ones that remained kept accusing him of being an agent of Al Jazeera.

Aboud,

Yes I did

Aboud,

Karameh “Blue”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKcL1ph05I4
guys this was the video i uploaded a few weeks ago about the al-saleeb church,
ive added my email to the description so you can make sure its me and not some impostor.
aboud,
vanilla.

Robert Ford visit in Daria is a slap on the face to Bashar al Assad. It really is very humiliating. How coward the president of Syria is! He always reserves the right to respond…except when killing innocent people.

Atassi,

Moving…promising..did you read the comments?

The last comment is telling, “if there is truly armed gangs, the ambassadors will not be there!”

ya bashar ya mundas, tudrab inta wa hizb albaath.

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tyrazera 2 hours ago

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Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

Why is Dr. Landis closing down the forum? I missed the explanation.

I didn’t know Professor Josh was spending so much time here. Alex used to run the show. Perhaps Alex is back in Syria advising President X-box about the wonderful democracies that exist in the world and why Syrians deserve the same treatment, not as a priviledge, but as an unalienable, basic right.

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Syria’s foreign fund enough for 20 months: minister – 2011-09-14

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-09/14/c_131138740.htm

DAMASCUS, Sept. 14 (Xinhua) — The Syrian finance minister said Syria’s reserve of foreign funds is estimated at around 18 billion U.S. dollars, which can cover the country’s import needs for more than 20 months.

In an interview with al-Baath newspaper published Wednesday, Mohammad Jlailaty said the government is working within a precisely-studied plan that fits the current stage Syria is passing through.

Asked about the treasury’s alternatives of oil revenues following the European Union (EU) and U.S. oil sanctions, Jlailaty said Syria is a self-sufficient country as its oil output covers 80 percent of its need for oil derivatives.

He said Syria fills the shortage by importing oil derivatives in exchange for selling surplus crude oil.

The EU banned oil imports from Syria earlier this month. This move, which will reduce millions of dollars each day of the country’s revenue, is regarded as a response to the Syrian government’s alleged crackdown against protesters.

Syria exports some 150,000 barrels of oil per day, with the vast majority going to the EU. Oil sales to the EU earned Syria 3. 1 billion euros (about 4.2 billion dollars) in 2010.

Jlailaty played down the importance of the EU oil embargo on Syria, saying that “Europe is not the entire world. It’s not difficult to find other importers of the Syrian oil.”

Syria is making a feasibility study to establish an oil refinery that would manufacture the surplus of the Syrian crude oil and rectify crude oil it imports from neighboring countries, he added.

Jlailaty said oil is no more a basic source of revenue Syria is counting on to finance its public treasury given the decline in output and increase in consumption.

He also said Syria was the first among the Arab countries to end its currency’s pegging with the U.S. dollar, adding that Syria is currently importing in euros.

The minister also expressed dismay over the rampant corruption in the country, vowing to impose the “harshest” penalties on the spoilers.

Although the six-month unrest is eviscerating Syria’s economy and would harm its people, the minister said Syria is still able to meet its financial obligations.

The governor of the Syrian central bank is exerting “tremendous efforts” to maintain the stability of the Syrian currency, he said.

For the moment, the economic decline has not spread to the currency, as the Syrian pound is down just eight percent against the U.S. dollar compared with mid-March.

To pay off the deficit in the treasury, Jlailaty said Syria plans to revive investments and the public sector, brushing aside claims that the government would issue new treasury bonds “because we will pay interests on them for up to nine percent and this would further overburden the budget.”

Once the society gets back to a stable status where safety and security are guaranteed again, such treasury bills could be issued again, he said.

The protests in Syria since mid-March have dramatically slowed the economic activities and rattled the country’s newly-born stock market, which, according to a Syrian newspaper, has lost 48 billions dollars in nine months.

Thanks to everyone who emailed. I’ll wait a day, and then email you back. That way we can all be sure no one is namejacking anyone else on the forum 🙂

Email is such a cumbersome way to communicate as a group. Just temporary for now, we will find a more convenient method later.

Hi Annie, just got your email. Purple 🙂 We will definitely need to get everyone together around something new.

I hate to speak for Dr. Landis. I am sure that he will explain his plans soon. The academic world values publishing books and research papers more than running online forums like this. It is afterall “only a blog” to academia. Maintaining this blog for the past 7 years has taken a lot of Dr. Landis’s time. Time that the university feels could be taking away from him publishing more academic material. Dr. Landis enjoyed doing this so much over the years but the time may have come for him to focus more on his academic career. One hopes that there is still time for a different decision but I am led to believe that the window is very slim at this point.

This article may not be on the SANA website:

Armored Syrian forces storm towns near Turkey border

http://news.yahoo.com/armored-syrian-forces-storm-towns-near-turkey-border-134902774.html

Aboud, how about you move to ShiaChat and lest see you trashing those Persians in there !1 I say it will be a real good challenge for you, lets just see if you can annihilate the Menhehabks on ShiaChat, what with the mods and admons being against you. Plus, SyrianCommando also posts regularly there.

Could someone for starts set up a twitter account called syriacommentredux or any other handle ? On twitter one can communicate without it being public. Although I do not know about safety.

I knew SC while in Syria may be around 2003 ? I was very grateful because I knew nothing of what was going on in the country given my beginner Arabic and the fact that pple did not discuss anything. And Al Jazeera English was not born yet.

I met Josh and I liked him; he introduced me to the Syrian Bloggers.
Bonne route Josh. May be we’ll meet again.

To all : Please read the safety instructions at 296 above.
My e-mail : [email protected]

I suggest to flood Qayfa Nabki in case this blog is closed, just as Lebanon is a natural extension of Syria, eh eh…
There was an important comment by someone really on the ground, unlike Aboud (you have to open an email with AboudinHoms to remember where you said you were… indeed as someone was saying some months ago here, you are the fake witness we hear on AJA, BBC and F24 always from a new place!!), please read it on the page before this one, signed by W.H if i remember well. He was among the people in the first demos of the Hamidiyye when it started (same tactic as Iran, move the bazaar).

Annie,
I’ve received a message from someone claiming to be you from a gmail account, please verify.

Khalid, Syrian Commando was comprehensively humiliated on this blog, which is why he ran away. He isn’t in the same league as the writers here.

@368 Ever hear the phrase “flog a dead horse”?

There is a Kuwaiti commentator on Arabiya, I always forget his name, but damn he’s good at debunking regime propaganda.

When this is over, I’m inviting the American and French ambassadors to my favorite restaurant.

Professor Joshua Landis, thanks for giving us a forum to express our emotions, news, stories, thoughts, ideas, silliness, humour, laughter, tears and many many more.

Sincere thanks to you and your family, time away from family is always precious. Our thoughts to you and yours. We appreciate your patience, time and above all, your love to that part of the world.

Sincerely, N.Z.

Where do we go from here?

A new blog by no other than, OFF THE WALL!

http://7ee6an.wordpress.com/

Your thoughts?

I will like to stay in touch, for the “Syria Free” party!

Thank you Aboud for decimating and enraging the cyber-shabiha. May they perish in their rage at the coming demise of their regime. Menhebek majaneen, you will win many battles, but you will lose the war in the long run. Your piggish squealing won’t do you any good and the volcanic rage of millions of Syrians will crush the Asad mafia. The days of cowards like Waleed Jumblaat and Sa’d al-Hariri, who have been waiting years for revenge are over.

Great idea NZ. To the Hayt! 🙂

A comment from AJE blog ‘diary from a besieged syrian town’:

I have listened to a conversation between Al Arour and a Scientist who left Damascus 2 days before it all started.
The Scientist: Socrat has asked the islamist Al Arour
1) to make public his position about the minorities in Syria
2) to criminilize sectarianism and not outcast the Alawite community who are the regime’s victims
3) If he accepts to sign a declaration that he is preparing in Antalia that includes the 3 above points. And asked him to send a representative to participate to the debate.

Al Arour has addressed the minorities and said that those who did not participate to the crimes have nothing to fear, alas the others who must fear the law of God. Then he asked Socrat about that point. Socrat answered that he rather sees the guilities brought to justice. Al Arour agrees with him and said taht his comments was just hinting at the moral side.
He agrees on the second and third point. I heard on AJA that he signed the declaration. Very constructive. Is the arab spring swirling the islamists ?

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/07/09/diary-besieged-syrian-town

By the way. Shiachat has gone quiet on Syria recently. Only yesterday/today someone posted on Syria. Not worth going ther at the moment.

@ Menhebaks (if any still around lol)

So who was bullshiting about having transparent and independent governmental investigations?

http://all4syria.info/web/archives/27834

This document proves how the criminal Betho and his Chief of Staff (Dawoud Rajiha) are covering all these inhuman killing actions

So bloody horns just SHUSH from now on eh!!

Shutting down SC is not confirmed yet eh

Why everyone is acting as if it’s a done deal?

For now just enjoy the cleansing of most Menhebaks out of SC

OTW and True, I got emails from you. Just let me know the color or animal you mentioned.

In other news, the Turks have alot of explaining to do. Lt Col Harmoush was shown on Syrian TV giving “confessions”. He had disappeared for two weeks, and was living in a Turkish refugee camp. He left the camp in the company of a Turkish security officer.

Now, one really wonders what Turkey thought they would get out of betraying Harmoush. He was a spokesman, he wasn’t leading the actual fighting. He was prominent because he was the first high ranking officer to defect, but he couldn’t do much from a refugee camp.

What the hell were the Turks thinking? They have shown themselves to be two faced, treacherous, and their credibility is shot to hell…all over a spokesman?

It is hard to imagine what they could have gotten out of the Baathists in exchange for this blatant act of treachery and the irreparable damage done to their standing. Who is going to trust the word of the Turkish government after this? It is impossible to conduct diplomacy or maintain much of an international standing when your credibility has been wrecked in this way.

If Turkey would like to live in the same doghouse as Besho, they are going about it the right way.

***BREAKING NEWS***

Erdogan did not yet bash Israel today !!!
.

Aboud,

I sent you my color.
.

http://7ee6an.wordpress.com

Is a nice blog and I’m sure OTW is very capable to keep it up to the highest standards, although I’m not sure how would OTW be able to balance and play a moderator while being an anti-regime blogger at the same time? unless he’s aiming just to attract Ma-Menhebaks folks.

This site is getting sentimental with Ehsani posts of Josh closing SC. So let us change the mood a bit. I tried double coffee, a cup of turkish coffee and a cup of American coffee and both did not work. I do not know how I stumbled upon SC when I first started but it sure left an impact on me. I never thought that I would be interested in writing on a blog. I really never found time to write my own research paper but found lots of time for SC.

Shabeeh @349
You sound like a polite Shabeeh. Shabeeha are not supposed to be polite. Why are you like this?

Basil
Your first post saddened me. I was happy that Saddam was humiliated and hanged. I very much like many people around me felt compassion with the Shiaa and Kurds in Iraq during Saddam reign. Life has never painted itself for me as Sunni vs. Shiaa, Muslims vs Christian, etc. It was that your heart goes naturally for the underdog and you can not not feel their pain and suffering.

The amount of sectarianism and “phobias of the others” that I am forced to comprehend after the start of the Syrian revolution has shocked me. Your post with its extreme generalization against the Sunnis was extremely sectarian. While I was never traumatized as you may have been living in Iraq and perhaps experiencing first hand a death of a loved one by a suicide bomber from another sect exploding himself in a busy bazaar and therefore can not put myself in your shoes, I just find it odd how you said you wish victory to the “minorities” turning blind eye to all the killing and mayhem this regime has inflicted upon us. You even acknowledge that the regime did export terrorist to Iraq to destabilize it, yet you consciously support the killing of innocent people.

The simple question I have is how can us people be so blinded by sect or religion and have sympathy to our own only. God is one entity. He created Basil the same way he created Tara. He I believe could not care less about who own which holly site or who should have come after whom. People is more sacred than sites, concepts or historical figure. Hatred beget hatred and somebody needs to break those vicious cycles.

@ ABOUD

There’s no animal but the (Jamal) lol

Btw I still can’t believe how he just evaporated like that!! Sounds like HA and Betho are not paying their Shabiha enough to keep them on the keyboard

@ OTW

I believe you got my email already eh

If indeed SC closes, you (Syrians in Syria and abroad) need to create a blog on BlogSpot, that will be run be Syrians (mnhebaks and mamnhebaks) as a group moderators. It could be a startup and an interesting experiment in free media that represent different and opposing views.
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EDIT: I should put down a disclaimer for all the dabbi7a, aka mamin7ibbaks, that the announcement below may upset you.

http://www.champress.net/index.php?q=ar/Article/view/101078

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Dear Haytham #300,
Thanks for the clip. I specifically liked the addition of that piece of trash Khaddam to the mix of regime Thugs.

Lt Col Harmoush.

I wander if this is what Syrian Commando has been excitedly saying on twitter about Syrian News to break the story showing the Free Syria Army is fake. He then said there would be a delay and News will be broken tomorrow instead.

Does he have inside information on these things?…

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/14/us-syria-ports-idUSTRE78D3R320110914

Syria’s ports suffer as unrest hits economy
10:21am EDT

By Suleiman Al-Khalidi

AMMAN (Reuters) – From his window on the corniche of Syria’s Mediterranean port city of Tartous, an international shipper bemoans the change since a popular uprising six months ago engulfed the country and dealt a heavy blow to its economy.

“At night, ship lights made Tartous extend into a city on the sea; now it’s like a small village. The port’s sealine was full of vessels — now the berths are nearly empty,” said the shipper, who opened an agency in Tartous to cash in on a boom in traffic after the Iraq war wound down.

Street protests demanding the removal of Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad, many of them bloodily suppressed, have shrunk traffic at the country’s ports and damaged its hopes of capitalizing on its position as a Middle East crossroads to grab a bigger share of transit business.

The exact extent to Syria’s economy is being hurt by the unrest and resulting international sanctions is not clear; official data is scarce. But many analysts expect gross domestic product to decline this year, perhaps by several percent or more. At the start of this year, the International Monetary Fund predicted it would grow 3 percent.

Shippers and businessmen say exports have dropped as foreign customers have cut orders, while Syrian importers have delayed orders because of the uncertainty. Meanwhile, companies which used Syria as a conduit to conduct trade with other countries in the region are seeking different routes. Syria’s principal port of Latakia, where the military deployed three months ago, has been hit hard along with Tartous.

“Even the Mediterranean cruise liners that came to Latakia and Tartous, and had hundreds of Italian and Spanish tourists, have not come this year,” said the international shipper, who did not want to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue.

FALLING VOLUMES

Shipping sources say traffic in general cargoes, dry and liquid bulk cargoes, and containers at Latakia and Tartous has been slipping since the uprising broke out in March. They estimate volumes shrank an average 35 to 40 percent from a year earlier in the first eight months of 2011.

“Importers and exporters are being very cautious, and that has led to imports of raw materials falling sharply as production slows down in many industries due to the troubles,” a Syrian transportation official, who requested anonymity, told Reuters from Damascus.

Shipping agents and industry experts said container volumes, the vast majority of which are handled by Latakia, dropped in June alone by 36 percent from a year earlier to 33,527 twenty-foot equivalent units (TEU).

Official Latakia port figures for the April-June period show a drop of 16 percent from a year earlier, but industry sources said this data was misleading because it included many containers with empty space.

In Tartous, which handles most of Syria’s bulk cargoes, or nearly 9 million tonnes of annual traffic in normal times, shipping sources said some European operators were avoiding the port after the European Union announced sanctions on Syrian oil exports at the start of September.

They said they were also seeing less business from Iraqi and other Arab traders who were deterred by the increasing checkpoints and roadblocks in many parts of Syria.

“We had 25 to 30 vessels daily arriving. This has dropped to between 10 to five daily,” said a major shipping agent based in Tartous, referring to vessels between 8,000 and 35,000 tonnes.

So far, major regular shipping lines such as Danish firm Maersk, French-based CMA CGM, Geneva-based MSC, and Germany’s Hamburg Sud have largely maintained normal vessel calls to Syrian ports despite lower cargo volumes, industry sources said.

Shipping agents say the companies are reluctant to pull out of a transit market that has served the whole region and still has great long-term potential because of its location.

“No major regular shipping lines are quitting at the moment. Once they withdraw from any service, it’s very hard to restore,” said Talal Halawani, a shipper whose Amman-based Liberty Shipping is an agent of a leading Italian line.

“Although they are suffering because cargo is not like before, they are still operating normally despite all the constraints. It’s a wait-and-see attitude.”

But other regional companies with no regular services have less ability to sustain losses, and they have omitted port calls or canceled visits to Syrian ports altogether.

“Liners that made container ship calls four times a month are now calling three times a month. Some regional liners, including one or two Turkish liners, have even dropped port calls altogether,” said a second Syrian transportation official.

Some shippers are seeking to offset the drop in their Syrian trade by offering more competitive rates for container slots in nearby Beirut, Mersin and Alexandria ports, which are in the same Europe-Mediterranean service.

IRAQ BUSINESS

The turmoil has prompted many lines to suspend plans, some drawn up only a few months ago, to add more container slots or introduce bigger vessels on Syrian port calls in anticipation of demand related to the reconstruction of Iraq.

Over the past five years, Syrian ports were able to boost their transit trade with Iraq, Jordan and the Arabian peninsula as Syria’s red tape and state controls, a legacy of five decades of Soviet-style economic management, were reduced.

Latakia and Tartous were also revitalised by the award of contracts to manage their container terminals to foreign investors in partnership with local investors linked to the Assad family.

The foreign investors — CMA CGM in Latakia, and the Philippines’ International Container Terminal Services in Tartous — upgraded the facilities and helped to nearly double the ports’ container traffic last year to 620,000 TEU from around 365,000 TEU in 2004.

Nearly 40 percent of Latakia’s total incoming cargo volume has been Iraq-bound, shippers and Syrian transportation officials say, while for Tartous the figure has been as high as 70 percent.

Syrian ports’ flexibility and lower costs gave them a competitive advantage in Iraq-related business against Turkish and Lebanese ports and Jordan’s Aqaba. Lower land transport costs were also a plus, along with the ability to bypass Suez Canal fees paid by importers using Jordanian and Saudi ports on the Red Sea.

Now, Iraqi, Jordanian and Saudi Arabian importers, who have used Syrian ports in recent years for bulk cargoes of wood, marble, steel and grains from the Black Sea area and North and Central Europe, are looking for alternatives.

“We are getting increasing inquiries from local and Iraqi traders who want to bring their goods to Jordan by sea from Turkey or other markets. This business traditionally would go to Syrian ports. Even goods that would normally go by land via Syria are now being shipped,” said Captain Wahid Abu Ajamieh, general manager of CMA CGM Jordan.

“This is an indication that something odd is happening.”

(Additional reporting by Khaled Yacoub Oweis; Editing by Andrew Torchia)

369. Some guy in damascus said:

Annie,
I’ve received a message from someone claiming to be you from a gmail account, please verify.

I have several e-mails; skynet and gmail. No worry

We shall never forgive Turkey. Delivering Harmoush to The Syrian regime is a crime against humanity. Erdogan is indeed a paper tiger and his Gaza flotilla is nothing but a stunt to champion the Arab world.

Uzair

“Does he have inside information on these things?…”

No. And I’ve addressed this point a dozen times already. This guy is *always* making predictions, like a horoscope, none of which pan out. He wants to sound like he has inside information, but people who have seen his ineptitude on this blog have seen firsthand how his “information” is always crap.

We heard from him that Besho was going to launch a war in June. We heard from him that Turkey was going to invade in May. We heard from him a million things that never panned out.

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UZAIR8

I agree with Aboud assessment in regard to Syrian Commendo. I wouldn’t worry about him. He is not connected nor is he a challenge. He does not belong to the same league.

384. Shabbi7,

Confessions! Can you please link an actual Q&A
why suddenly will an israeli spy appear on Syrian TV? he looks as if he just stepped out of a movie set. His white hair looks suspicious, also, his original hair colour.

the Syrian and israeli directors failed badly.

1.the production took so long
2.he shed “some” information
3.the late Mughniyeh died in the middle of Kafr-souseh
4. is the unrest now linked to assad ally, israel

we are lost, they blame everyone, except, the stupidity of the three amigos .

@ TARA, ABOUD, sheila,SGID, SoD, Khalid, Husam, Haytham, Revoln, Atassi, UbuGhassan, ziadsoury, N.Z, SYR.EXPAT, Akbar Palace, UbuUmar, EHSANI2, annie, uzair8, Darryl, Homsi

Sorry if I missed anyone.

SC was our virtual window to our real world in Syria, being far away from home does not make it easy at all.

It was my pleasure to work with you guys, and I hope one day, soon, we would be able to enjoy a round of real Syrian coffee (not Turkish) next to Muhajreen palace.

Feel free to keep in touch [email protected]

Ta

Dear Anne-marie aka Annie,
Welcome to the fold. Can you tell us a little about you. Can be in general terms. Are you from Syria?.

To all,
I feel like I am going to be orphaned next week. SC has become an important part of my life. I will miss each and every one of you, even the childish, incoherent and down right stupid.

My guess is Josh may change his mind if he finds a volunteer assistant so he can be saved time to work on his book. Someone may be to do the news round up every few days. Any candidate?

Here is a scenario that has entered my mind lately.

Earlier on in the uprising analysts were saying the regime was militarily (security) strong enough to last for some time but economy could be its weakness that proves fatal unless it gets substantial outside support.

Then there were the worrying reports that Iran was ready to give Syria $5.8 billion. Analysts doubted this story as Iran had its own economical problems.

An alternative solution in which both nations benefit can be one in which Syria sells ‘some’ of its military equipment (such as missiles, air-defence systems etc) to Iran.

Assad regime could do with the money to save or prolong its economy, currency, and ability to pay for the crackdown. What good would the equipment be to the regime if it is overthrown? If it survives it can replace sold equipment.

Iran would recieve sought after weaponry to bolster its missle deterrance, and strengthen its air defence capabilities.

Its win-win for both nations.

This video showing a kid being kicked around and hit is clearly fake. You can easily see that the “soldier” is hitting the bottom of his shoes and specific places on his body (where they can easily hide a protection pad or something)

this demonstrate how desperate you are to go on CNN.

link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-araofSe2vs&skipcontrinter=1

Bashar, we the people are with you!

Seriously guys (ah and Tara-Annie), this is a pity…. I can all see you crying because no more bullshit is posted on SC’s comment section. hehehhehehehe

Annie, on se vois a damas… et la on parlera.

ya hameeee* .

allah suriya bashar w bas.. (edited for insult)

Aboud
Purple

Businessmen, Christians still support Syria’s Assad

The Christian Science Monitor | Sep 14, 2011

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/businessmen-christians-still-support-syrias-assad

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad came under fresh fire yesterday from the Arab League, which called for an immediate end to what one official referred to as the regime’s “killing machine” deployed against antiregime protesters.

But despite deepening international isolation, Mr. Assad’s supporters at home are likely to wield significantly more influence over his course going forward.

To be sure, Assad – once widely liked and seen by Syrians as a reformer – has seen his support base rapidly diminish after a brutal campaign against the uprising, now entering its seventh month. More than 2,600 civilians have been killed since March, according to the United Nations, as well as several hundred soldiers.

But Assad remains in control – thanks in part to a range of Syrians who still haven’t turned against him, from businessmen dependent on the regime to minority Christians worried about the rise of Islamist powers should Assad fall. That support provides a bulwark for the regime against outside pressure, making it unlikely to bow to threats from the Arab League or other international actors – potentially to the regime’s own detriment.

“This makes it harder to make the regime understand that they need to move towards an exit strategy,” says Steven Heydemann, author of “Authoritarianism in Syria.” “The continued support of the officials keeps it strong while the shows of support of ordinary Syrians stops the regime from realizing how serious the crisis is.”
Businessmen bet on regime’s survival

Support for Assad is especially strong in Syria’s two largest cities, Damascus and Aleppo, where residents are wealthier and have been shielded from the worst of the crackdown.

Some Damascenes proudly wear baseball caps with Assad’s face on it, and can be heard declaring that they “love the president.”

For some, self-interest is a key motivator. Regime officials, including the army and prominent businessmen have tied their fortunes to the regime. They are still betting on Assad’s survival, especially after an escalation of the violence during Ramadan increased fear and reduced the size of protests.

Increasing numbers of defections of soldiers have been reported and in August the minister of Defense, Ali Habib, was quietly removed, but there have been no defections of diplomats or key government ministers.

While many businessmen have long been disgruntled with the regime’s crony capitalism and small business owners have taken to the streets, prominent industrialists see working under the regime as the only option. That’s due at least in part to the fact that relatives and allies of Assad, including his business tycoon cousin Rami Makhlouf, still control broad swaths of the economy.

“Many businessmen are forces to partner with regime figures such as Rami Makhlouf,” says one business analyst in Damascus. “So it’s not so easy to get out of it.”

In Aleppo, one Syrian activist attributes the city’s relative quietness to its commercial interests. “There would be more demonstrations if the security forces weren’t everywhere, but this is also an industrial city where people have spent 40 years working with the regime,” she says.
Fear of upheaval

Fear of what comes after Assad is another rallying factor for some citizens living under a regime whose collapse could result not only in civil war, but regional upheaval, given Assad’s close ties with Iran, the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah, and the Palestinian militant group Hamas.

Many, especially the rich, would prefer stability to upheaval, a sentiment that is growing as instability increases without any end in sight.

Syria’s mosaic of ethnicities and religions makes it especially susceptible to such concerns. Supporters of the Assad regime frequently cite fractured neighbors Lebanon and Iraq both as examples of the havoc wreaked by sectarian strife. The regime has played on this line and has been particularly successful in drawing Syria’s minorities – Christians and Alawites – to its side.

“They are just rural troublemakers, the government should carry on trying to end this even if it means more deaths,” says one Christian woman, a university graduate from Damascus’s Old City.

Regime warnings of a sectarian backlash against Assad’s Alawite sect has rallied the predominantly Alawite security forces to his side. Detainees report sectarian insults from Alawite guards while others say Alawite friends are scared of “being sent back to the mountains,” the ancestral home of the sect, if violence breaks out.

While some of Syria’s 1.7 million Kurds have taken to the street, others fear rule by a Sunni Arab majority were Assad to fall.

Some Syrians from a variety of backgrounds still believe the government narrative that the unrest and violence is caused by armed gangs, Islamists, and a foreign conspiracy against the country. But critics say such attitudes are largely the result of propaganda.

“Hardcore support is based on propaganda,” says one young professional from Damascus. “The regime stripped the Baath party of any ideological content so the few remaining supporters are [those] brainwashed into the cult of Assad [who] believe the unrest is caused by armed gangs.”
No ‘clear alternative’ from the opposition

The remaining support helps to bolster the regime on two levels, analysts say.

“The loyalty of officials is obviously the most important because this keeps the regime cohesive and in control,” says Mr. Heydemann, now a Middle East specialist at the US Institute of Peace in Washington.

But the ordinary support on the street also has an effect. “The Assad regime operates in a bubble so by seeing shows of support they may be persuaded they are confronting an insurgency and believe they have the support of ordinary Syrians,” he says.

In theory, analysts say it should be easy to persuade people to drop support for Assad. His past image as a reformer who was widely liked, and may have won elections had they been called at the start of the year, has been replaced by support based on intimidation and fear of the alternative.

International pressure from the West is targeting regime loyalists, with sanctions on officials and prominent businessmen aiming at provoking others, fearing the same treatment, to split with the regime.

But while this could backfire if the regime rallies officials and citizens to its side by repeated claims of a foreign conspiracy, it will also not be enough to change minds. That must come from more efforts inside.

“While many people hate the regime, they don’t see any clear alternative from the opposition,” says a Western diplomat in Damascus. “Hatred of the regime is still growing, but many are not yet ready to actively move against it. If they did, it would signal a faster downfall.”

397 “I feel like I am going to be orphaned next week”

How about 3arbood? is he going the same?

He should have some antidepressants on hand as I am sure it is not easy for him.

`aboud

fuchsia

Aboud
cinereal

SGID
vermilion

`aboud

razzmatazz

If the revolution is successful,there will be message on Revolution against Bashar Assad,and on Off the wall blog,in it we will get togather,this is just in case SC is permanently closed, however I am optimistic.

Off the wall.

How do you log in to your blog if we dont have accounts on twitter, fb etc?

This blog is closing? How sad! Just as I was getting to know better the members.
Well so long, folks…

It would be a pity if SC is suspended.

Did Don Bashar send Luca Brasi to pay the Prof. a visit? How is your Race Horse Prof.?

Erdogan’s Remarks Irk Muslim Brotherhood – SEPTEMBER 14, 2011, 7PM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904491704576570670264116178.html

CAIRO—The Muslim Brotherhood objected to statements by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan telling Egyptians not to fear building a secular state, in a rare clash that exposes the gap between the so-called Turkish model for building a Muslim democracy and what Islamists in the region believe when they invoke it.

For much of Mr. Erdogan’s two-day visit to Egypt this week, members of the Muslim Brotherhood made up much of the fan club that followed Mr. Erdogan around Cairo. They championed his tough stance toward Israel and his promotion of Muslim solidarity.

Daisie

Your writings are intriguing. You pretend to sound less smart than what you actually are. Why is that?

The Islamization Of Europe – Copenhagen Tuesday Sept. 13.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2011/0914/Denmark-s-election-a-litmus-test-for-Europe-s-far-right-politics

After a media firestorm over Danish Muslim candidates accused of “infiltrating” politics here, Prime Minister Rasmussen declared a culture war with immigrants and Islam. Not law or economics but a war of values is “decisive” for Denmark’s future, he said.

Wilders, speaking last spring to the Magna Carta Foundation in Rome, cohosted by the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, compared the spread of Islam and Muslims to the invasion of the barbarians, an infiltration not seen “until it was too late,” he said. “It is time to wake up. We need to confront reality and we need to speak the truth. The truth is that Islam is evil, and the reality is that Islam is a threat to us.”

`aboud

Malachite

What kind of political system Syria should have ,

Parliamentary, like England, Iraq, Israel
and should religous, regional and ethnic parties be allowed,

Presidential, Republic like the US with districts and two houses

Combined of both like France,

My vote goes for the presidential with districts and two houses, i feel that in each districts all parties can compete and people will vote for a representative that lives between them and known to them,

What do all think?

Syrian TV Station Accuses Al Jazeera of Fabricating Uprising

September 14, 2011, 8:54 pm

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/syrian-tv-station-accuses-al-jazeera-of-fabricating-uprising/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xQ-qhB1uzg&feature=player_embedded

A YouTube channel called the Syrian Interpreter has posted a subtitled recording of the Syrian television station Addounia TV claiming in a Sept. 9 broadcast that the news station Al Jazeera has built enormous “cinematic replicas” of Syrian cities and squares in the Gulf state of Qatar in order to fabricate the uprising in Syria.

These replicas were built “with the help of some French and American directors” and are “exactly like the ones set up of the Green Square for Libya, with which they duped the Libyans and the world that Tripoli fell,” according to the channel’s English translation.

“With those replicas,” the subtitles read, “Al Jazeera will continue media fabrication and cinematic tricks by shooting scenes of big defections from the Arab Syrian Army and shooting scenes of clashes. Those scenes would be done by directors from the U.S., France, and Israel.”

A spokesperson for Al Jazeera said: “This is wackiness of the highest order which no one will be taking seriously. Many other journalists were in Tripoli reporting the same events, so it is telling that such is Al Jazeera’s influence in the region that supporters of these regimes are targeting Al Jazeera specifically for covering the uprisings.”

Reached via e-mail, the Syrian Interpreter said that Addounia’s claims were “nonsense,” and that the station was “a mouthpiece of the government.” The activist who created the channel requested anonymity out of security concerns for family in Syria.

Addounia TV is owned by Mohamed Hamsho, who is the brother-in-law of Maher al Assad, the commander of Syria’s Republican Guard and the brother of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria.

In August, Addounia TV broadcast dramatized footage of the United States Ambassador Robert Ford being attacked by a group of pro-regime demonstrators wielding a poster. The incident took place just before Mr. Ford’s planned trip to Jasem, in the southern Daraa region, where pro-democracy protests have been violently suppressed. A month earlier, Mr. Ford made a similarly controversial visit to the besieged city of Hama.

@Norman #415

For Syria combined like France is the best.

Parliamentary system means change of government every two months.

Norman you need to ask the Iraqi refugees in Syria that question

`aboud

Xanadu

Haytham,

Can you explain to me with simple terms how that works and what the responsibility of each, the president and the parliament and would that be used like what happened to Arafat and the prime minster Abbas, changing responsibility depending whom the West like more.

The way it is done in Syria
http://all4syria.info/web/archives/27966

Ann,

I do not like the Iraqi system , many problem with that system from religous and ethnic parties to set a side for women which might look good on paper but actually will limit the numbers of women if enough of them are qualified,
Iraq moved to democracy with lack of security and safety and that made intimidating and vote buying wide spread, Syria so far is still safe in comparison and election will diffuse the tension and test the candidates their ability to governs, small town with city councils that manage these towns will give enough experience to would be leaders to mature, Syria can not stay as a single party system and the Baath party should not fear competition after the dead wood leave the party, it will be a better party.

The Arab spring is an Arab disaster – 15.09.2011

The choice in Syria will be either a bloodbath, an Alawite dictatorship or a Sunni dictatorship

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/a-perfect-storm-1.384558

The picture is clearing up. The Arab spring is an Arab disaster. In the coming years there will be no democracy in Egypt. The choice in Egypt will be either chaos, Islamic dictatorship or military dictatorship. In the coming years there will be no democracy in Syria. The choice in Syria will be either a bloodbath, an Alawite dictatorship or a Sunni dictatorship. In the coming years there will be no democracy in Jordan. The choice in Jordan will be either weakened Hashemites, the Muslim Brotherhood or Palestinians. In the coming years there will be no democracy in Libya. There the choice will be disintegration, disorder or renewed despotism. Perhaps in Tunisia a real change for the better will occur.

But the bottom line of the Arab spring is that the lives of hundreds of millions of Arabs will be worse. More poverty, more crime, more fear in the streets. More oppression of women, more persecution of minorities, more hatred of the West. Monarchies like Saudi Arabia, which thwarted the Arab spring – are now emerging as responsible states. In contrast, the republics defeated by the Arab spring are turning one after the other into failed states. They are tainted with fanaticism, spreading misery and creating unprecedented instability.

The picture is clearing up. The Palestinian September is an Israeli-Palestinian disaster. The Palestinian September was conceived by two European statesmen – Bernard Kouchner and Javier Solana. Those two naive men figured if they grant international sponsorship to Salam Fayyad’s Palestinian-state plan, they would force Israel to make a final-status arrangement.

But the Israelis did not cave in to the pressure. The Palestinians fell in love with the plan.

The train left the station. Now, when everyone understands the train is racing to the abyss, nobody can stop it. On September 20 the General Assembly debate will begin. At the beginning of October the assembly is likely to adopt a destructive resolution. Presumably Israel will take unilateral retaliation measures and the Palestinians will go the The Hague.

At the same time quiet mass demonstrations will probably begin in the West Bank. Neither Benjamin Netanyahu nor Mahmoud Abbas will want violence. But the two men’s failure in managing the conflict will induce violence. Suffice it for one demonstrator to be killed. Suffice it for one Jewish terror cell to carry out one murder. The autumn air will fill with gas fumes and one spark will be able to ignite them.

Both Israel and peace are about to be struck a historic diplomatic blow. But the blow’s immediate tangible effect will be the creation of an uncontrollable confrontation situation in the West Bank.

The picture is clearing up. The combination of the Arab spring with the Palestinian September could create a perfect storm. Since the big Arab revolution is not offering real hope, it awakens rage and hatred. The first wave of rage and hatred was focused on Hosni Mubarak, Muammar Gadhafi and Bashar Assad. The second wave will be focused on Israel. Facing the wave will be transient, weak Arab leaders who will have difficulty containing it.

Thus, if Palestinians are killed at Jerusalem’s gates – Cairo, Amman and Istanbul will rage and storm.

If an alert squad in some settlement opens fire at Palestinians ascending on it – the Middle East will tremble.

In the newly created historic situation there are no shock absorbers. No stabilizing forces. Every isolated incident could instantly turn into a strategic one. The quiet is hanging by a thread.

The clearer the picture, the gloomier it gets. What makes it especially gloomy is the inexplicable behavior of Israel’s government. The government is not launching a political initiative that would moderate the Arab, Palestinian and Turkish hostility. The government is not stretching out its hand to the Arab nations and Arab masses. The government is degenerating the alliance with the West and burning its bridge to the Arab world. It insists on positioning Israel in a way that highly increases the chance it will be hit by the storm.

Netanyahu’s government did not generate the Arab spring. Netanyahu’s government did not initiate the Palestinian September. But Netanyahu’s government has done nothing to prevent what may occur when the Arab spring and Palestinian September come together. Instead of bolstering the Jewish national home in anticipation of the hurricane, Netanyahu’s government is hacking away at its foundations.

Will, Tara and NK thanks, I got your emails.

Great job everyone. When the revolution started, this website was a stronghold for menhebak propaganda. At the end, the menhebaks fled in droves, and now bitterly accuse professor Landis of working for Al-Jazeera. The expected response and reaction of a group of people whose claims and lies could not stand up to the light of day, and to rational analysis.

It reminds me of reading how Hitler railed against his armed forces at the end of his days.

They not only lost a platform from which to spread Baathist conspiracy theories, they lost something else; the chance to prove they and their ideas could hold their own in an atmosphere of free discussion and debate. I don’t mean to sound smug, but they were utterly routed.

The comprehensiveness of their failure can be seen in how they have turned against this blog that was once very accommodating to their every whim.

I don’t think this great group of people should lose touch. We will get something going on Facebook to facilitate communication, and discuss ways to keep the spirit of community that we created alive.

(Alas, some will never get the answer to the question “Where were the French taaaaaaaanks!!!!!!!”)

415. NORMAN said:

What kind of political system Syria should have ,

Norman, I advocate Westminster system for the following reasons ( I wrote about this in a message to Sheila back then):

I think a Westminster system with a full opposition bench of shadow cabinet along free media and regulatory bodies should reduce a corruption in our country which is very prone to under table deals and politicians doing nothing.

Get read of the french system and do not even think about the American model, as the founding fathers made a mistake. I understand many Americans now are thinking about a Westminster system.

1. President is head of state acts a figure head with very limited power chosen by 2/3 parliament. The president can be a of any religion and ethnic background and must be an exemplary figure to unify all sects and ethnic groups.

2. Election winning party or a coalition of parties chooses the Prime Minister (PM) and cabinet.

3. Election losers form a shadow cabinet to keep the bastards honest as they say in Australia so that all election promises are kept. I think this is the problem with American system, they argue and argue and lie and little is delivered as no one is overseeing that election promises are delivered except the voter who is fooled.

4. Election term is 4 or 5 years. PM has limit of 3 terms.

5. Parliament members have limits of 3 terms maximum 4. You do not want to have dinosaurs in parliament like US system where a person dies in office. Better have new blood more often.

Norman I was being sarcastic.

A million Iraqi would rather live under Assad stable Syria than in a FREE and DEMOCRATIC Iraq.

Obviously the so called Western Civilized World is too blinded with hatred and dead set on destroying Syria

BBC News Magazine
14 September 2011 Last updated at 18:58 ET
Syrian unrest: The exiles keeping the uprising online
Mishal Husain By Mishal Husain BBC News, Beirut

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14914765?print=true

Social networking and internet-based communication has been crucial to all the Arab Spring uprisings, including the ongoing struggle in Syria – and Syrian exiles in Lebanon are helping to make it possible.

In cramped, smoke-filled apartments in Beirut, I came to know the two men who, for me, now embody the Syrian uprising.

Both are exiles, escaping from President Bashar Assad’s Syria at different times, but now with very similar lives undercover in Lebanon.

It is a strange existence – understandably secretive – for these are the people trying to do everything in their power to end Mr Assad’s grip on their country.

One is Rami Nakhle, known in the Twittersphere by the pseudonym Malath Aumran. He was forced to flee Syria in January as the security services began to suspect he was responsible for a Facebook page fiercely critical of the regime.

Rami is an intense young man who seems to live and breathe through his laptop, constantly connected to the protests in his country and relentless in his zeal to spread the word about them.

We first met in Beirut just a few weeks into the Syrian uprising.

Unlike many other dissidents, Rami was prepared to be seen on camera and explain the process of gathering the news of Syria and disseminating it to the mass media.

It was a Friday, the day of prayer, and his network of cyberactivists was braced both for protests and for a tough response from the authorities.

The atmosphere in the apartment was heavy with expectation.
Red-rimmed eyes

Within moments of our introduction, I felt as if I had been transported to Damascus.

Rami’s whole existence seemed to be devoted to what he called “the Syrian struggle”.

He looked as though he had not slept in weeks – his pale, red-rimmed eyes staring at his computer, leaving it only to go live on air when foreign TV and radio asked for interviews.

As I sat with him, watching him monitor Facebook and Twitter, a video clip arrived via email. It was labelled “a martyr from the city of Hama”.

Rami said: “I don’t usually watch these,” but clicked on it nevertheless.

I was prepared to see a body, but the footage showed a man who had just been shot, slumped to the ground as a deep red stain seeped across his clothing. Some of those around him were trying to keep him alive. Others were filming the scenes on their phones.

Both Rami and I were shocked into silence and after a moment he abruptly left the room.

I remained, watching the last, frozen frame.

In any other context, it would be grotesque to think of a scene like this being filmed by onlookers. Here, though, it was if everyone had their task – some to try to save a life, others to capture the evidence.

Later that day, I saw reports that one person had been killed in Hama. This time I could visualise that person as never before.

‘So heartfelt’

The other dissident, Omar Edlibi, is a very different but equally compelling character.

The father of a young son, he is strongly motivated by his desire to create a better Syria for the next generation.

Unlike Rami, he was still in Syria when the uprising began in March, and began agitating and getting people out on to the streets.

He explained how the first gatherings in Damascus began, in solidarity with the people of Egypt and Tunisia. The authorities even encouraged them, ignoring the irony of supporting democracy elsewhere while repressing it at home.

Omar, like Rami, battles with guilt. Some of those he has encouraged and persuaded to join him on the streets have been killed in front of him.

It is clear that he feels their loss – and his responsibility for it – acutely.

What sustains him are his ideals – a Syria that he can be proud of, that can live in peace with its neighbours.

He was so eloquent, so heartfelt, that when the cameras stopped rolling I said he could run for office in a future Syria.

He laughed and shook his head. “No,” he said, “I am a poet, not a politician.”

Changing passwords

As the protests have continued, wealthy Syrian exiles have begun to play a part, buying satellite phones, that are packaged in Beirut and smuggled across the border.

It is a very risky journey to make, but the phones are a lifeline for activists as they struggle against the regime’s efforts to cut them off from each other and the outside world.

The activists share online passwords, so that if one of them is arrested and drops out of contact, the relevant password can be immediately changed – preventing data falling into the hands of President Assad’s dreaded security services.

In one of my meetings with Rami, he acknowledged that he had already changed 17 passwords out of the 20 he held – meaning that 17 out of 20 had been arrested.

In the secretive world of Syrian dissidents in Lebanon, I was never sure whether Rami and Omar knew one another.

Neither ever showed any doubts about the outcome of the uprising in Syria. They are perhaps at present no closer to their goal, but both insisted that in the end they would prevail.

BBC

“A million Iraqi would rather live under Assad stable Syria than in a FREE and DEMOCRATIC Iraq.”

Hehehe, where else would they go? Jordan can’t absorb anymore, Lebanon won’t be accommodating. They acquiesce to live in Syria (big word, look it up).

OK assuming you are right. They acquiesce to live in Syria instead of living in FREE and DEMOCRATIC IRAQ.

*** NUFF SAID ***

Yeah free and democratic Iraq. The Persians and Qurdaha gang have alot to answer for when the time comes.

Speaking of which, how many Iraqis choose to live in Iran’s theocracy? Not many I hear…..

Darryl.

You are in Australia, right, the system you are talking about is the one in England and Australia, what i fear about that system is that it does not protect minority rights and a simple majority can shove laws into the throat of the minorities, in the US these laws do not pass with 2/3 majority, people in our country will vote for the big name on the ticket or the religion of that person only to get cronies of that man or woman ,

You are being incoherent again!

The Iraqis come to Syria because Syria has open border policy to all Arabs in according to the Baath party principle of one Arab Nation, free education and health care in Syria helped, they did not come for democracy,i think you all agree.

They came for PEACE and STABILITY also Norman

Norman, Yes Westminster is used here in Australia and also Israel uses it as well as India (largest democracy on earth).

In new Syria there should not be minorities and people need to remove this from their heads. Everyone is a citizen, and I believe these issues have been resolved by the new party law as parties are not religious or ethnic. Thus “so called minorities” should become members and vote for a party that fits their particular political thinking and the election platform that a party runs on.

Religion or Ethnic background does not differentiate or diminish our basic needs in life such as liberty, freedom, dignity and basic service delivery that a government is there to do. A government is not there to be worshiped it is there to deliver every day basic needs to the community and laws that everyone is equal under. I am talking about a SECULAR government that is.

At the end of the day a Sunni Muslim, a Christian and Alawite wants the same thing; a government that is honest and delivers a service to the citizen where ever they are in Syria and upholds the laws. My needs are not different to Aboud’s even though we can disagree on many things (may be Aboud is not a good example 🙂 ) perhaps NK or NZ or True etc.

“may be Aboud is not a good example”

LOL! Not in this case.

However, as I understand it the Israeli system is different from the Westminster one. In Israel parties are assigned seats according to the popular vote, while in the UK each constituency gets a representative.

Also, in Israel the PM is elected directly, while in the UK the party or coalition with the most seats gets to lead.

Peres once said that if Israel had the UK’s system, it cold have avoided alot of political messes.

Ann,

Yes , i missed security and safety.

Darryl,

The kind of system is what Iraq has and that led to corrupt system, I like the American system because of decentralization and district where can elect directly their rep, and vote him out if he does not behave, that is difficult if you like a platform but do not like the rep that the party wants for you ,

Anyway it looks like we like the systems we know , I the US, Haytham the french and you the British,

Aboud said,
(( Also, in Israel the PM is elected directly, while in the UK the party or coalition with the most seats gets to lead.))

I think that was tried and canceled, they are back to give the PM to the one that can have a government ,

I wish we can have the lecture from DR Landis or somebody that can educate us about the different systems and why for example the US chose the British System.

Canada’s Parliamentary system is referred to as a “Westminster Model.” This model was first developed by the British and is named after the Palace of …

The States has a different model..

Norman, I have lived under the American System and I prefer the Westminster for the reasons outlined originally. The American founding fathers chose this new system as they were afraid of having King George the first, by dividing power equally among three institutions. They thought it was more difficult to corrupt and they did not want a British system at all.

Off course what they got was a system of “I scratch your back and you scratch mine”. For this reason, a bill never looks like the original and always ends up more complicated and wasteful.

I hope we abandon the presidential system and move to the Turkish model where the PM is chosen by the party that wins parliamentary elections. This makes the office of presidency more symbolic and ensures a less totalitarian political system.

I will be glad to help Joshua keep this blog open including providing finanial support if needed. Closing this blog is not the end but I hope dr Landis gives us time to look for alternatives if he chooses to shut down SC.
Jordan can not tolerate 6 months of demonstrations
http://www.alquds.co.uk/index.asp?fname=today%5C14qpt955.htm&arc=data%5C2011%5C09%5C09-14%5C14qpt955.htm

@Norman 420.

In France
Mainly, if the president is responsible for the Defense and foreign affairs, while the prime minister is responsible for the rest.

More on Syrian opposition
http://www.alquds.co.uk/index.asp?fname=today%5C14z500.htm&arc=data%5C2011%5C09%5C09-14%5C14z500.htm
No positive outcome is likely until:
Syrians reject foreign intervention
The regime releases all political prisoners,not common thugs
Real trials for criminal elements from all sides are held

Just in case this blog closes down, I would like to thank Prof. Landis for all the work he did to raise awareness about Syria and allow us to share our views.

I would also like to thank my fellow compatriots who spoke out against the Assad mafia and intellectually challenged the regime supporters.

As for the regime loyalist, I ask you to reconsider your stance. By supporting this criminal regime, you’re a partner in its crimes and you will be held accountable by God Almighty. Sooner or later, the Angel of Death is going to catch up with you (and all of us for that matter). When that happens, there is no going back. So why wait until it’s too late? The least you can do is denounce the regime’s crimes in you heart. However, if you feel that you must stand on the regime’s side because of fear of the alternative, then you must also speak out against it crimes.

One other point for the regime loyalists. “Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Throughout history, many tyrants thought they were smarter than the ones who preceded them only to end up joining the caravan of losers (their supporters included). The worst part is not losing in this world, but in the hereafter. So act now and save yourselves by repenting to God and doing what’s right.

You are a good dude, Syr Expat

Dear Joshua,

Instead of closing down the blog, you could dedicate one hour per week to post few links to articles about Syria and add few quick thoughts. You can always shut the comments section if you don’t have someone to moderate the Comments section.

Continuity at a much slower pace is better than ending this effort.

General Commander in Cheese Arboud the undisputed king of SPAM:

You never made any sense because you are sectarian. If you want to make a change, like you always claim, you can start by learning how to respect others and their opinions and whom they are.

No matter how much you try to fake intellectualism, your sectarian smell, behavior and words kill all of your hopes. This sectarian attitude will kill Syria for sure.

Your accusatory tone and words plus your disrespect is a reminder of al-Baath to me, isn’t that strange?

The dictator that is going should not be replaced by another, especially a religious one.

Syria has no hope to stay as we know it today because of people like you. Secularism is what is going to save Syria.

Religious kooks like you who want to kill anyone who insult your prophet is danger to this time. What is the difference between you and al-Assad that you hate and make fun of all day.

Syria should have a civil law that equals all, otherwise, it is going to break apart. Sectarianism and the attitude where people are divided into peasants and landlords is not going to take you anywhere General Cheese master.

You think that you are better than the Alawis and consider them not worthy of anything. Sometimes you make fun of the way they talk. Do you belong to this time and space or you belong to be in the 7th Century? General sorry to piss on your parade, the Alawis I know are a light year ahead of you in every aspect of life. Even those living in the most remote Alawi villages are ahead of you. Those who milk cows and farm are better than you and ahead of you in terms of their fit to the fabric of this world.

Also, the Sunnis that I know are a light year ahead of you in terms of accepting others and respecting them.

You are a bad influence and the crazy thing here is that you are either an unemployed and found this website a gift where you can talk all day, or a paid blogger of a sort. You are going to be very lonely after the closing of this great blog, that I hope it never closes.

I work and you spam General. All your calls for battles are unanswered because I have work. You are creating too much noise.
One day you are a war expert, the second day you are a historian, the third you are a legal expert, and so on….But, the beauty of this is the more you blab and blab and blab, the more mistakes you make, and more of your real self gets out and spits your sectarian venom and disrespect to other people.

For real you are a video game general.

446. DALE ANDERSEN

Thank you.

@448

You said

“General Commander in Cheese Arboud blah blah blah whine whine whine sectarian blah blah where’s my French tanks blah blah”

When I first came to this blog, it was enemy territory. Now, it is the Qurdaha gang who call it enemy territory. And not because of anything professor Landis did. It was because you people could not sustain your propaganda in the cold hard light of critical analysis. You could not hold your own when challenged on the principles and ideas you spent 40 years believing in.

The Qurdahans have proven themselves, in these six months, completely and utterly ill prepared for all aspects of a modern, pluralistic society. You see conspiracies even in your morning cereal.

All your talk about “secularism” is of course, fake, not when you rely on a theocratic Persian tyranny and a Hizboll-shaytan terrorist organization as your only friends 🙂

With friends like that to keep you company, it’s no wonder you people are always in a foul mood.

When Mubarak left so quickly, he left his regime intact, something the Egyptians are learning to their cost. Syrians, however, will be able to remove not just your X-Box tyrant, but his entire Qurdaha gang. When we are done, every trace of this cancerous regime will have been gone. We won’t even need to pay lip service to the idea of coexistence with the Qurdahans 🙂

Sens. Durbin, Paul battle over logistics of Syria resolution

By Peter Sullivan and Josiah Ryan – 09/14/11 10:53 AM ET

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/181441-senators-durbin-paul-battle-over-logistics-of-syria-resolution

Assistant Senate Majority Leader Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) took to the floor Tuesday evening to demand that freshman Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) drop a hold he has placed on a bipartisan resolution to condemn the violence that the Syrian regime has deployed against its citizens.

“I hope that he [Paul] will consider the bloodshed and carnage in Syria as he continues to hold up this official action by the United States Senate,” said Durbin.

Paul’s spokesman told The Hill on Tuesday night that Paul intends to continue blocking the legislation because he opposes the way Democratic leadership is attempting to pass the resolution swiftly. The method Democrats are using is called unanimous consent, which does not require debate or the actual presence of senators for the vote.

“Senator Paul does not believe sweeping foreign policy resolutions should be passed in the shadow of darkness without debate or public votes,” Paul’s spokeswoman, Moira Bagley, told The Hill. “There needs to be a discussion about whether or not this resolution is another precursor to an unconstitutional war.”

Paul also opposed a resolution in July to authorize U.S. military action in Libya, in part because he believed President Obama had already overstepped his constitutional powers by participating in a United Nations mission against then-Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

Durbin insisted, however, that the Senate must send a unified message to the Syrian people that America supports their efforts to throw off the dictatorial regime.

“The people deserve the message to know that the people of the United States through their elected representatives in the Senate understand their plight, stand behind them and will work to bring justice to their country,” said Durbin.

In response, Paul’s spokeswoman told The Hill that if appropriate debate time is afforded to the resolution and a real vote is scheduled, the junior senator from Kentucky will likely drop his objection.

“Sen. Durbin should speak to Majority Leader [Harry] Reid about scheduling floor time and votes for the full Senate to discuss this matter,” she said.

In his speech, Durbin called for other actions against the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, which has used violence to crack down on rebellions against his rule.

He admonished China, Russia, India, Brazil and South Africa for holding up sanctions against Syria in the U.N. Security Council, saying, “I find it hard to imagine how some of these countries in light of their own history could ignore the obvious, the killing of innocent people in the streets of Syria.”

Durbin said he promised a group of Syrian-Americans he met with in Illinois last Saturday that he would do the best he can to address the situation in Syria. He also advocated passing legislation sponsored by Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) to further sanction Syria by penalizing those who buy its oil.

”
“Durbin insisted, however, that the Senate must send a unified message to the Syrian people that America supports their efforts to throw off the dictatorial regime. ” What good will that do? It isn’t our business. This is what Rand’s dad champions when he talks about a non-interventionist policy. Glad to see the apple didn’t fall too far from the tree. Symbolic votes like this do nothing but stoke the ire of one side or the other in an ongoing conflict. Durbin should focus his attention a bit closer to home.”

396. sheila said:

Dear Anne-marie aka Annie,
Welcome to the fold. Can you tell us a little about you. Can be in general terms. Are you from Syria?.

Dear Sheila, I study Arabic and I lived in Syria which I considered my home between 2002 and 2007 when I was advised upon leaving from Damascus Airport for a holiday in Belgium that I could leave but never come back. I had wanted to apply for Syrian citizenship but the only way was to marry a Syrian or have a business a thing I had contemplated with a friend. Starting a kind of editing French texts service.

When I was told thru investigating friends that there was nothing in my files at the mukhabarat, I flew back but they did not let me in. I asked if I could at least organize the shipment of my things but they refused. I kept quiet about it here not wanting to embarrass them.

So, my connection with Syria is thru the heart. I have travelled in quite a few Arab countries, but no people are comparable to Syrians.
I hesitated before siding with the Revolution but the unspeakable cruelty of the repression did it.

Dear UZAIR8
To comment you do not need an account on any of these. Just and email address and a name of your choice. Better if the email is not connected to your real identity. It is pretty much like visiting this blog.

In the future, I will remove these buttons, once the blog is moved into a location that allows more customization.

I hope closing the blog does not mean taking all its contents off-line. This would be an act of censorship in the current circumstances, because this is the sole place which has some information on some of the actors of these events.

Laughable tripe:

“Khalid, Syrian Commando was comprehensively humiliated on this blog, which is why he ran away. He isn’t in the same league as the writers here.”

I left because I knew the game of the moderators ahead of you all. Now all of your stupid reporters are begging me for interviews, people are only interested in the voice of the victor. That’s why ABOUD’s (non-Syrian faker, exposed multiple times) little abode is going to be shutdown. But not before we archive all the damning evidence of the conspiracy.

For REAL, intelligent commentary on Syria, you’re all free to check out my blog.

http://syriancommando.wordpress.com/

Or this excellent blog by another patriot

http://democratic-syria.blogspot.com/

Oh and finally (I know you’ve all been waiting for this for a while): checkmate, professor.

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Just like the blog owner and your backers. DIMMMMMMMMWITTTTTTTS X-Baathists, Socialists and Communists, worse…

I refrain myself usually from commenting on such blogs as the comments itself are the factor that increases the popularity and exposure of such blogs, even if the content value is very low to the level of copying statements and speculations.

To be married to someone who has a couple of relatives in the Syrian army with some sort of ranks and posts gives the author information he claims exclusivity doesn’t merit value except in the locations and posts accessible to the relatives of the author, which is unlikely of intelligence importance and depends on what the Syrian army itself wants to leak.

However, since my own blog was mentioned in a link here take these factors:

The 1978-1982 Ikhawn crimes were supported directly by Saddam and through Jordanian crown prince then, it’s true it cost lives and hardship on regular people but that was before self efficiency in food and resources.

BRICS were not existing at those times, and there was only 2 major blocs and 3rd non-allied, each moving out of own interests and busy with own problems.

NATO countries were at their peak powers, not their poorest situation as of now.

Media did not exist, now in the internet even sluts and criminals have their own sites, like Ikhwan for instance.

Turkey was much more powerful and not economic-dependence, now a small shock in Turkey would cost them Billions of Dollars as it’s reliance on tourism, export based industry and transit, if Turkish Syrian borders are closed, the biggest loser is the Turkish industries, if tensions intensify Kurds won’t sit idle as this would be their ever dreaming moment, Turkish opposition voiced its rejection to the new Ottoman policies and waiting for such an opportunity to regain control, Istanbul is one of the cities in the range of Syria’s strategic missiles as well as Bir Saba’ in the south of israel, so the stakes in other words are huge and would like to remind you all of the Samson option Syria loves to do and stated once by late Snr Assad: “When we fall we fall on the bodies of our enemies”, now think why NATO didn’t get involved directly in Syria till now like it did in Libya and others.

Your dreams are high, but when you wake up to reality you will be so hated by the people of Syria who used to humiliate someone by calling them an ikhawnji, but were about to forget and forgive recently till riots unfolded and ikhwan reminded the people of the bloody criminal nature of their movement, so no more forgiving and forgetting, it’s payback time.

In case you still have doubts, ask Japan and others why they sent back their ambassadors to Syria, Media is something and Reality is another.

To all : This is a great ressource
http://syplanet.yaman.webfactional.com/
Latest Thoughts of Syrian Bloggers

Most of the posts are now in Arabic.

Hey Syrian commando,
How do you feel about besho’s seriousness towards reforms?
Will rami makhlouf’s multiple industries be nationalized and up for a an auction or will the paralyzing monopoly continue?will rami be tried for being a leech on the economy?Will besho be investigated for turning a blind eye to rami’s violations?
If none of these issues are going to be addressed , besho isn’t serious at all.

SGID,

I don’t think anyone will be tried for anything legal but patriotic people will get what they want. There’s a dodgy-sounding party formed by “opposition”. If you’re in Damascus, you should join up and use your nationalisation idea as a campaign. If people feel strongly enough about it, it’ll happen.

I’m not a fan of any nationalisation. Our family suffered enough under Abd Al Naser so I don’t even want to hear the word again. Internet in Lebanon is cheap now, 3G in Syria should be cheaper than it is. Telecommunication reform is definitely required. (though it isn’t as bad as other places near by)

Anyway, that’s all from me, feel free to visit my website or my friends. Together we’ll build an amazing Syria, traitor/ikhwan/zionist/corruption free.

I’m not saying I want it to belong to the public sector. Years of rami’s monopoly gave us huge bills, warded off investment and ruined the economy. Obviously some one has to be accountable for this.
The first step besho should’ve taken was to show us the law is above all else. He failed miserably. With no assurance given to us. There can be no nation building with the asads/ makhlufs in power. You try speaking out against the rami’s bid to syriatel( hint: raid seif) and tell me how that works out for you. Your a besho supporter, right?

Wake up, it’s the same bills as in Greece, Italy, France, Spain, and they don’t have Besho.
Don’t you see the big smiles on Sarkozy and Berlusconi’s faces every time they met with Putin? Just the same big friendship as between Bush and Putin. You don’t remember Tchetchenia? You must be really young folks…
Bush has transformed the world in a self destructive machine based on lies, with unacountable mercenaries and bankers dictating laws, and “think-TANKS” to provide them a clean “consciousness”.
Bush emptied the pockets of the middle class which Clinton had filled, and Sarkozy is doing the same job with Lybia.

MINA
Wake up, it’s the same bills as in Greece, Italy, France, Spain, and they don’t have Besho.

Not true. If phone and internet bills in these countries consumed the same percentage of income as they do in Syria, you would have had major riots only for these bills in all of these countries. Please don’t by making such comparisons. Yes, they may be expensive and some may be a near-monopoly (e.g. France), but it is in no way similar to that of Syria.

As for Bush, he just continued with the program started by Reagan /Thatcher couple. All the little bozo did was add blackwater into the equation.

“341. Haytham Khoury said:

The courageous ambassador Ford.

Is Daria within the 25km radius from Damascus.”

Yes Daria is within 25km radius.

The move is very touchy indeed, but yet hypocritical. I wonder how many funerals did the ambassador go to when he was in Baghdad and many Iraqi civilians were being slaughtered

“The courageous ambassador Ford.”

statement like this Haytham, repel many away from your cause.

Mine,
Are you seriously implying I should forget about these problems just because some European countries have them too???
With that kind of logic why should south Africa combat AIDS if the USA has it’s own HIV victims.

MNA#464

With all due respect, please be repelled. If the sight of body trails in Syrian towns, the massive number of children murdered by the regime, and the many footage of the humiliation, beating and torture did not attract you to the cause, then honestly I could care less about you being “repelled”. Please stay repelled. Mr. Ford has made history. He is a great person. He deserves all admiration.

#455 Syrian Commando said:

“Oh and finally (I know you’ve all been waiting for this for a while): checkmate, professor.”

This taunt should not be tolerated by Prof JL. An appropriate response would be to call Regime Commando’s bluff and allow this site to continue operating as normal.

The regime and its supporters are their own worst enemies. One mistake after another. Lol. Who needs friends when you have enemies like these.

Commando may just have made a big mistake which even his fellow Menhabeks will curse him for. Lol.

Menhabek premature celebrations on hold…lol.

AbuGhassan Thanks for the Al Quds articles.

I always liked Abdul Bari Atwan so I wandered what he has been saying on Syria situation. I checked it out:

Syria should accept Arab League initiative to avoid foreign intervention
29 August 2011

“The fierce security solution to which the Syrian authorities have resorted has not succeeded in stopping the popular uprising; rather it has fanned the protests. Otherwise, the uprising would not have continued for more than six months without letup, leaving hundreds, rather thousands, dead or wounded.”

http://www.abdelbariatwan.com/SyriaNeedstoAvoidForeignInterference.htm

National Dialogue Sessions Continue in the Syrian Provinces and Universities

Sep 15, 2011

DAMASCUS, (SANA) – With wide participation of political, economic and social activities, representatives of unions and civil establishments and academic, independent and opposition figures, national dialogue sessions continued on Thursday in the Syrian provinces and universities.

The aim of the dialogue is to come up with common national formulas that that boost democracy and political pluralism, fulfill the citizens’ aspirations and draw the features of the coming stage in Syria in a way that preserves national unity, bolsters Syria’s regional and international role, maintains the independence of its national decision and fortifies the society against foreign conspiracies.

Dialogue Sessions Discuss Reconsidering Economic Strategies

On Wednesday , national dialogue sessions discussed viewpoints and visions for establishing common grounds for work in the coming stage based on bolstering the independence of national-decision making, preserving sovereignty and respecting citizens’ freedom.

In Damascus, 350 political, economic, social, religious, media and cultural figures participated in two sessions focusing on politics, preserving national unity, confronting the conspiracy the new laws and the state of mass media.

Participants stressed the need for continuing reforms to foil plots targeting Syria, calling for boosting the role of parties and civil organizations, achieving social justice, strengthening the concept of national unity among youths, and reconsidering the constitution to benefit the country and its people.

They also called for expediting the trials of those involved in terrorist acts and forming independent committees to visit Arab embassies and explain the scale of the conspiracy against Syria.

The participants underlined the important role of youth in developing Syria and the need to combat corruption, restructuring government establishments, diversifying exports, relying on local resources, making wages suitable to the living conditions, and expanding the use of alternative energy sources.

They stressed that developing mass media is a national duty as it should reflect citizens’ aspirations and play a role in monitoring ministries and establishments, voicing rejection of all forms of foreign interference in Syria’s internal affairs.

In Damascus University, participants in dialogue agreed that the events taking place in Syria are the result of a foreign conspiracy facilitated by internal elements, most importantly corruption, with professors stressing the need to acknowledge issues and facts in order to reach a solution through involving experts, academics and citizens in decision-making, trying the corrupt, and bolstering liberty.

Participants stressed that democracy isn’t achieved through chaos and foreign dictations, but rather through a constitutional establishments and according to a schedule that guarantees reforms.

They stressed the need for improving the role of civil society establishment, bolstering the values of citizenship, and focusing on the human being and the fact that the people are the reference point and the once capable of dealing with issues through active participation.

The participants called for preserving the resistance and national sovereignty, reconsidering the mechanisms of political and party work, confronting those who bear arms, and strengthening the rule of law.

In Daraa, participants in dialogue unanimously stressed the importance of bolstering security and safety across the governorates in order to carry out services projects and programs that serve the people’s interests.

The participants proposed providing new job opportunities through new industrial and services projects, calling for expediting the various services projects, finding new water sources, amending laws and regulations, and revitalizing tourism and sports in the area.

They also called for establishing a hospital, providing equipment to the blood bank, encouraging investment projects that provide new job opportunities, lowering university acceptyance marks, assigning newly-graduated teachers in their governorates, and caring for archeological sites.

In Tartous, dialogue sessions tackled services and social issues, discussing social support and welfare, unemployment funds, health insurance, education and services, with participants calling fro combating red-tape, reconsidering educational policies, curricula and tests, improving universities, fixing the rates of private hospitals, developing internet services, supporting scientific research, and developing agriculture and industry.

In Sweida, discussions focused on consecrating the rule of law and amending the constitution to suit the stage while preserving the national course, with participants calling for separating the three authorities and boosting the role of mass media as the fourth estate.

Participants stressed the need for an independent judicial system, party pluralism, social justice, combating corruption, confronting cultural invasion, and caring for youths and solving their problems.

They also rejected foreign interference in Syria’s affairs and the squandering of public money, calling for making a distinction between national opposition and those affiliated with foreign agendas, stressing the need to support comprehensive political reform and confronting the instigation targeting national unity.

In Deir Ezzor, dialogue underlined the importance of dialogue in resolving issues, stressing that political reform and party pluralism is an urgent necessity and the need for national opposition which rejects violence and doesn’t conspire with forces from abroad.

Participants underlined the importance of an independent judicial system and the army’s role in achieving security and stability, in addition to affirming the media’s importance in confronting and exposing conspiracies against Syria.

In Hama, participants called for adopting dialogue as a primary principle, achieving equality, and preserving the dignity of citizens and their right to express their opinions, stressing that no-one should be exempt from being held accountable.

They also called for issuing a new law for early retirement, encouraging local investments, protecting local products, uniting efforts to build the homeland, correcting erroneous economic policies and reconsidering tax legislations.

In Lattakia, the national dialogue focused on service and development-related issues of concern to various social and age categories.

In Homs, the national dialogue session discussed political, economic, social and service issues, with the participation of 500 participants representing social spectrums.

The participants discussed solutions to the current crisis, as well as allowing enough space for carrying out the package of reforms and the laws issued lately to reach a modern Syria.

They also thrashed out amending the constitution, calling for broadening dialogue with the opposition and laying out a comprehensive political and social reform plan.

In Tishreen University, the participants in the dialogue considered that combating corruption starts by issuing deterrent legislations, calling for protecting the achievements of the state and developing the public sector.

They also stressed the importance of consolidating decentralization, ending bureaucracy and establishing modern centers for public service.

In Quneitra, the participants in the dialogue session stressed the importance of security and stability in the country, and keenness on pushing the development and modernization process in spite of internal and external challenges.

The proposals affirmed that disagreement in viewpoints in society is normal as long as they converge when it comes to national principles, underlining the importance of fair judiciary.

They considered that dialogue is a healthy national state that paves the way towards a new stage in Syria’s modern history.

In Idleb, the participation in the national dialogue focused on supporting and protecting local industry and supporting public and agricultural sector, among other issues

Disclaimers
A small country with powerful neighbors , multilingual , multicultural , non sectarian , has a constitution that kept his people peaceful and its economy improving for centuries : Switzerland

“I left because I knew the game of the moderators ahead of you all”

HAHAHAHAHAHA! He leaves the website, but apparently is still so obsessed he checks back often. At the time Mr “My daddy shot down Zionist-Indians in the war” left, no rules were being enforced and the moderator hadn’t even been appointed. The straw that broke the menhebak’s back was, apparently, when he was humiliated after claiming he would sue anyone who called him a terrorist.

“people are only interested in the voice of the victor”

Reminds me of reading about Goebbels, everyday he kept telling Hitler that the Luftwaffe was winning, and would destroy the RAF “anyday now”. FYI, if like Butthaina says you are 700 for 700 after six months, that ain’t winning, that means you aren’t anywhere near to subduing anything except Athma’s shopping bills.

Oh and take a look at Onsyria.com, and see how many demonstrations come out every single day.

But of course, menhebaks define victory as beating up cartoonists.

“For REAL, intelligent commentary on Syria, you’re all free to check out my blog.”

Apparently he isn’t getting enough traffic, poor thing, and has to go around the web spamming his link.

“checkmate, professor.”

Typical Baathist. He can’t win a victory, so he pathetically claims one after the owner of this blog decides to move on to other things. Nothing says more about their needy and desperate nature 🙂

So menhebak, what happened to the war of liberation on the Golan your X-Box president was supposed to launch? What happened to the big army of Qurdahans that were supposed to subdue Homs….like, 3 months ago 🙂

“statement like this Haytham, repel many away from your cause.”

But he was courageous. Unlike your own Imad Mustapaha who spends his time harassing expatriates.

But I guess menhebaks think *this* is bravery. Eleven Qurdahans against a wounded guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBNjVArnvbo&feature=player_embedded&skipcontrinter=1&has_verified=1

“I wonder how many funerals did the ambassador go to when he was in Baghdad”

Tell me, how many funerals has Besho been to? Butthaina been to? Mu’allem been to? Makhlouf been to? Cro Magnum Maher been to?

Haytham,

Isn’t that the system in Syria now , but without free elections .

“ask Japan and others why they sent back their ambassadors to Syria”

He never left. The announcement was made on August 21st, three weeks ago, that he would be recalled “in the near future”.

Apparently the Japanese decided that for the time being, it would be better to have an observer in the country to witness things like this;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/14/syria-activist-murder-ambassadors-vigil

Now the menhebaks will claim that America doesn’t really believe that junior is a mass murderer, hence Robert Ford’s continued presence in Damascus.

To #426. Ann,
And how about you Ann? Do you prefer living under Assad’s Syria, Saddam Husein’s Iraq, or whatever country in the West that you currently live in?. Or is it the same old:”Arabs can’t handle democracy” theory?. Or is it that we, living in the West, deserve better than those living under the shoes of the Syrian regime? And why do you think “the so called Western Civilized World is too blinded with hatred and dead set on destroying Syria”?

I think the Syrian army is the last one in the world to still use camouflaged dump trucks to move around infantry *facepalm*